I read a lot of things in this sub, and I hear a lot of the same things in pickup videos, or from books, but for some reason it never seemed to connect until I started actually seeing it in the field.

The things that I'm talking about are basics like:

1) Girls, especially HB8-9's are as insecure as you are, or in many cases even more insecure than you are.

2) Women want and crave sex as intensely as men do, and sometimes their drive surpasses ours.

I know now that these things are true, and this is how I know.

1)Girls, especially HB8-9's are as insecure as you are, or in many cases even more insecure than you are. How I know: There's a HB9 in one of my classes, she's truly stunning, and if I was the same guy I was before I stumbled upon seddit, I would have thought she was incredibly out of my league. This past week she started sitting next to me in the back corner of the room, and instead of avoiding eye contact and trying to pretend that she wasn't sitting there, (like I used to as an AFC) I struck up a conversation, and we were both hysterical laughing within 5 minutes (it really can be as simple as just starting to talk). The professor walked into the room shortly after, so we quieted down, and started to pay attention to the lesson. Five or six times throughout the class I saw her trying to rub a smudge off of the back of her pants, close to the ankle. What she was trying to get rid of was barely noticeable, but she was still spending a ton of time attempting to make her outfit "perfect." This is when it clicked, here's this beautiful girl, who every guy in the room drools at when she walks in the door, and all she is thinking about is the tiny smudge on her pants. I've felt that same insecurity in the past, a tiny stain on my shirt that ruined my whole day, when logically I knew that nobody would see it, and here is this girl having the same crisis. She's just like me.

2) Women want and crave sex as intensely as men do, and sometimes their drive surpasses ours. How I know: last year I had a fwb (HB7) that would hang out in my dorm almost every day. Some days she was just there to bump uglies, and others she would just be laying on my bed because I had one of those memory foam mattress toppers (a must-have for any college student). Most of the time, we'd be sexually satisfied so we'd act like a couple of friends would act, no kino, no need to hang out "just because," and no PDA. it was the perfect scenario from my point of view. But over time, I noticed, she was the one who was initiating most of the time, and there were a few cases where I (and I never thought it would happen) was turning her down because I had to get work done. That's when it hit me, her sex drive is way stronger than mine will ever be.

So here's the point I'm trying to make, if you think that the advice in the seduction community is a load of crap, go out and look for proof. I guarantee that you'll find it if you look in the right places.