Words that usually mean an incoming wave of bullshit from a woman in your life, I know, but there really needs to be a discussion had. Specifically, I'm talking about the large volume of posts made about women, and the hate that gets directed their way. First of all, let me say this: I get it. I've been there. You need a forum to give a voice to the anger you feel, but this sub, and for that matter this entire movement, has to be about more than that, or we will simply get ignored and dismissed as another random group of misogynists. So with that in mind, let's be clear about something: MGTOW IS NOT A MOVEMENT FOR THE HATRED OF WOMEN. IT IS A MOVEMENT FOR THE AVOIDANCE OF WOMEN. We're a movement of men who see and accept women for what they are: People who have been conditioned by society since birth to be demanding, entitled, narcissistic, and entirely self-absorbed. I don't hate them for it, in the same way I don't hate a dog that's been conditioned for its entire life to be aggressive and vicious. I just recognize that it's a dangerous animal that I don't want anything to do with. I understand the anger, and I admit that it has its place, but we have to be about more than that. Anger and hatred of women cannot be our prevailing guide, because it's an emotion, and men are not the ones that live our lives based on the whims of our emotions. We aren't here because we're jaded, or betrayed, or angry. We're here because we do what men do best: We logically evaluate our situation and our environment, and proceed accordingly, and an environment where one cohabitates with women is a hostile one. Women depend on us for happiness. We don't depend on them for happiness, and we shouldn't hate them because they can't give it to us. So long as you remain angry at them, they own space in your head rent-free. Stop hating women, and start recognizing them for what they are, which is another obstacle standing between you and a fulfilling, happy life, and learn to avoid them accordingly.