MGTOW Discussion

VideoramaYT · 2018-11-23T15:58:04+00:00

Man these NPC's trying so desperately to paint all MGTOW's the same colour..

Listen emotional creature, just becouse our responses don't suit your agenda doesn't prove you right.

The fact is, everyone here has it's own viewpoints. AND becouse people here use logic and not emotions, couses the sideffect of converging viewpoints, just becouse LOGIC.

Like saying gravity exists.

MadPreacher1AD · 2018-11-23T16:06:41+00:00

I already said I don't think you all hold this same mindset, I am not speaking as if all of you believe what I wrote.

1. Good that is a start.

This isn't a conversation about the "Family Unit" and Hillary Clinton, this is about MGTOW holding two separate beliefs that conflict with eactother. Please stop sending me comments about how much Hillary is ruining the traditional family, because I don't care about that, and I never mentioned her here at all.

2. You just contradicted yourself from point 1. You are ascribing two distinct viewpoints held by two different types of men. So which is it, do we all believe it or don't we? Pick one and only one.

My original point was that you can't villafy women who have abortions,

3a. So we shouldn't vilify murderers and serial killers either right?

but then also turn your back on women who actually try to seek help to raise her child because those two ideas directly contrast eachother.

3b. If you are referring to a single mother then we can since she, statistically speaking, blew up the family unit with I'm not happy and divorces dad. We can vilify that as well since she made the choice to screw her children over in the removal of their dad.

I don't care about politics or your ideas on whats legally called murder under the law. This isn't a debate on whether or not abortion is good or bad, or anything like that.

3c. Then don't bring it up as a point of debate. You brought it up so you have to deal with the consequences of it.

For all of you who keep saying that "MGTOW isn't an organization, so it's not like we all hold these beliefs" Please, for the love of god, shut up. MGTOW is a community, and just because you don't write it down, doesn't mean that there aren't some common ideas held by said community.

4a. You do understand that there is a difference between a community and an organization right? A community usually doesn't have a ruling body while an organization must have one.

You all have common beliefs, and I am allowed to criticize those beliefs.

4b. There we go again with the putting different opposing views from different types of people onto the whole.

The idea that abortion is bad is a belief that MGTOW holds,

4c. Except for this thing called science that says that women who murder their children in the womb actually have higher rates of cancer while also said procedures ends up making them infertile. We can objectively state that abortion is bad for both the murdered infant and the mother.

Women who seek child support are liars and manipulative bitches is also a belief that MGTOW holds.

4d. Except that is the fact of the matter when women intentionally blow up the family unit and listen to their divorce lawyers to claim all sorts of lies to extort more money from the husband while also removing his rights to his children.

Let's keep it civil folks, I did not come here for you to name call and poke fun. We can have a discussion about abortion and all that jazz, but tone it down with the trash talk will you? I will respect your opinion, and listen to your points, and respond in an appropriate manner.

5a. Given your statements and your link to a prior thread about this I'm going to call bullshit on this. You have no interest in having a civil conversation. You came to stir the pot and create a flame war.

I will respect your opinion, and listen to your points, and respond in an appropriate manner.

5b. You already proven in the prior thread that you don't respect anyone's opinions that is contradictory to yours. The new post certainly shows the opposite and that you don't respect anyone's opinion, except for your own.

TripOverNothing · 2018-11-23T16:16:14+00:00

The only common belief is:

Mariage/cohabitation is too risky, don't do it.

The rest is a matter of each individual. And answers in previous post reflect that. The fact you heard two contradicting opinions from two separate individuals and decided this is a common belief within community have lead you to this, as you called it, "clusterfuck".

Atton_Risk · 2018-11-23T16:18:49+00:00

Clinton's days are over and before long her life
I feel perfectly fine making fun of both of these hypothetical women. Because there birth control is 200 years in advance of mine, pregnancy in context of consensual sex is a choice. Save the exceedingly rare examples of a respectable form of birth control failing. 99% of the time abortion is a primary form of birth control and single mothers are too stupid to use contraception. TLDR: Women are too stupid to use birth control and that is worth ridicule.
A little lesson men cannot function as a collective. This is why the MRM failed and MGTOW is not about getting men to function collectively. That approach doesn't actually work just try getting one or more of the men on this subreddit to work together on much in the way of anything. MGTOW works because it is about appealing the one self interests. To ones survival instincts and self respect rather than a common identity.
I'll tone it down when women who have sex with children. Aren't allowed to gain and maintain custody of children. When the aren't allowed to demand child support from their rape victims. When they end the literally slavery that caused the suicide of Robin Williams.

Darth_Toenail · 2018-11-23T16:43:57+00:00

For all of you who keep saying that "MGTOW isn't an organization, so it's not like we all hold these beliefs" Please, for the love of god, shut up.

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I will respect your opinion, and listen to your points, and respond in an appropriate manner.

Infinitewisdom1984 · 2018-11-23T16:48:38+00:00

My original point was that you can't villafy women who have abortions, but then also turn your back on women who actually try to seek help to raise her child because those two ideas directly contrast eachother. I am not here to discuss your ideas on abortion, I don't care about politics or your ideas on whats legally called murder under the law. This isn't a debate on whether or not abortion is good or bad, or anything like that.

It's vilify*. And, I would never. Go ahead and slaughter your own genetic lineages, what do I care? Like scoring on your own net and celebrating - have at it, have an abortion every week until barren, depressed and suicidal, I don't care what anyone does - just don't reach into my wallet for it. Plus, the types of women who have abortions are the types of women we don't want ever becoming mothers anyway so it works out nicely. We'll call it post-modern natural selection. Make Darwin proud - abort genetic trash before the environment ever has to deal with them. teehee

but then also turn your back on women who actually try to seek help to raise her child

This would imply I was ever facing them to begin with, my back is forever turned. Not my circus, not my monkeys. Not my in-group. ;).

So basically what I'm saying is, abort or don't abort, you should be left to suffer the full consequences of your actions, whatever objective reality deem they to be all on your lonesome, save the charitable nature of others who may willingly step in to relieve you of some of your self-inflicted burdens.

CiceroVoltaire · 2018-11-23T16:55:17+00:00

having an abortion vs raising a child as a single mother.

both outcomes are the result of an act in which the adult woman (unless actually raped or a minor) has full consent authority.

if she didn't fuck, or if she took precautions prior to getting fucked, she would have eliminated (not fucking) or significantly reduced (birth control) the chance of becoming pregnant.

in either case, her freedom, her choice to fuck or not fuck, then it's her responsibility.

Why do my taxes have to pay for either outcome of her choice? Other than that, IDGAF what women do, let women pay for the consequences of their actions, not expect society to take care of it and pay for it.

Bye, Felecia.

edit: to be clear, being a strong, independent, equal person in society means you take personal responsibility for your life, existence, needs, actions and consequences.

[deleted] · 2018-11-23T17:28:52+00:00

My original point was that you can't villafy women who have abortions, but then also turn your back on women who actually try to seek help to raise her child because those two ideas directly contrast eachother.

Those two ideas do not contradict each other, they are both actually based on the same forgotten concept called "responsibility".

If you are responsible, keep your legs together and do not get "accidentally" pregnant, you do not need abortions.
If you are responsible, save yourself for a good man and respect him, it is not very likely that you'll end up being a "single mother".

DWShimoda · 2018-11-23T17:41:08+00:00

You forgot to mention how we're all "white supremacist - Nazi - racist - deplorables."

Also, GFY and GTFO.

LiseranThistle · 2018-11-23T16:28:32+00:00

Also before I leave, what hell is it with you guys and Hillary Clinton? Why is every response "Hillary's reign is over." I don't understand how she even came up when I didn't mention her at all?

Title	MGTOW Discussion
Author	LiseranThistle
Upvotes	0
Comments	20
Date	November 23, 2018 3:47 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/9zpb9f/mgtow_discussion/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/mgtow-discussion.454462 https://theredarchive.com/post/454462

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You forgot to mention how we're all "white supremacist - Nazi - racist - deplorables."