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MRA, Feminism and Economics question

LastRounder · 2021-07-01T07:35:37+00:00

I often hear, that male disposability, pushing women to work places and typical family planing (question of kids vs cariere) are heavily influenced via modern...

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July 1, 2021

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Title	MRA, Feminism and Economics question
Author	LastRounder
Upvotes	14
Comments	5
Date	July 1, 2021 7:35 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]Iceman_Hottie 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]LastRounder[S] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]Iceman_Hottie 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think it's multiple malicious groups covering for each other. Feminism was always filled with bad actors and with the current economic system they are very good at distracting and being perceived as having the moral high ground.

I believe there is a quote: " evil preaches tolerance until it is in charge". Most people are willing to sacrifice things to get along and tolerate bad behaviour, slowly corrupting society from within. People also buy in to rhetoric rather than evaluate on merit, which is to a huge extent a problem of the education system (from kindergarten to PhD; all of it). That's a long discussion in of itself.

In my opinion an economic collapse is inevitable, the system can only bare so much. The bigger issue is how to recover and not repeat the same mistakes.

If you have any questions ask away.

[–]LastRounder[S] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think it's multiple malicious groups covering for each other.

Just a bunch of people trying to exploit the system? Who are they? I am not a conspiracy theoretic, but why did they do this only now? If someone back from 50th or even 70th would have heared about things in 2010-2020 they would say that is impossible.

Feminism was always filled with bad actors and with the current economic system they are very good at distracting and being perceived as having the moral high ground.

And that's why they have all imaginable support. I see. Strange is, that, though they share a lot with communism, they had a pass in West. Where commies were not tolerated before. Interesting.

People also buy in to rhetoric rather than evaluate on merit, which is to a huge extent a problem of the education system (from kindergarten to PhD; all of it). That's a long discussion in of itself.

Why it is so?

[–]Iceman_Hottie 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I terms of conspiracy, there is none, and it's not my wheelhouse. It is just how philosophy shapes us and our societies. There is no need to conspire if you seek similar things through similar means, and such groups will cover up for each other to the extent it benefits them, and will throw each other under the bus as soon as it is convenient.

I think the problem to a large extent started with the draft and the voting rights movements. In the previous system where land ownership gave voting rights (regardless of race or sex), the people voting where wealthy enough to not need to struggle to support them selves and their families, thus having time to critically examine what they voted for and had the education to do so using the maximum knowledge available. That is also a good reason to study history, so that you could avoid the same mistakes someone else did. There is also a standard of "high crimes and misdemeanours", which was used to exclude bad actors from the government.

The voting rights reforms have lead to people who are too busy with other things to be used as a voting base. Such individuals do not have an interest to do a deep dive on the things or people they are voting for, and are highly susceptible to flowery language and rhetoric, as they will see the headline or slogan which take second to read. Vetting for quality in those seconds is impossible, and people need to get back to work, so the slogan is enough to convince them. To attempt to prevent that USA was founded as a Republic not a democracy.

On a larger scale both communism and feminism seek to destroy judeo-christian societies, mostly because they want power and do not care about the collateral damage. The judeo-christian value system are also their biggest enemy, as it imposes constraints that help society flourish, and a strong society is hard to subjugate.

In terms of education look up the Dunning-Kruger effect. Modern education is not designed to get you past the peak, as an idiot who thinks that he knows everything is easy to control. And during the formative years, when you are in school, you are the most impressionable, aka easy to indoctrinate. The feminists types are also not good at producing things like food, cars, software, worthwhile art (anything that requires a good handle on reality and objective truth). They are however good at moral posturing and rhetoric, which allows them to get people on their side, and bully their opposition into submission.

Feminism vs communism, both evil to the point of being indistinguishable. Why was feminism accepted? Like frogs in a pot, feminism is a slower and a less obvious of the two.

Thoughts, questions and comments will be appreciated.