Summary:
Since the mods brought up the subject about trolls, I thought I'd mention a special type of troll in the community so you can avoid his advice as it relates to dating and personal development should you encounter him. It's a little long so you can understand exactly why he trolls, but if you want the short version, simply read the bold text or Conclusion.
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Years back when I was a fully-fledged beta, I used to post questions in seduction forums to improve what little game I had. While I received some good feedback, sometimes there would be that one guy who had to give a shitty response, as if I insulted him personally by my question.
Now that I'm swallowing the red pill after a string of bad experiences with women, and coming forward with concerns about this new transition, it appears that one guy has reared his head in this community, giving responses that are unnecessarily disrespectful. A quick check of his comment history shows that he's given heavy-handed responses to others as well, even in other subreddits. But rather than expose this individual directly, I'll extend him some courtesy and just talk about the characteristics of his nature so you'll know how to identify guys like him. I've named this type of guy Chode Thunderdouche.
Chode Thunderdouche is basically a condescending know-it-all when it comes to dating and relationships. He's a few notches below Chad Thundercock status; good looks, has an alpha disposition, assumed a few leadership roles, and while he's not as skilled as Chad in getting laid with all the hot chicks, he's at least capable of getting decent-looking girls for LTRs.
What distinguishes Chode from the rest of the red pill community is that he came to the Red Pill not out of anger or despair, but out of convenience. Chode sees the Red Pill as just another pickup guide, but doesn't understand exactly why it's called "The Red Pill", other than "it's a reference to The Matrix." This is because unlike a natural red piller who rose through the ranks via hardships, Chode had it easier. He's never been friendzoned, never approached enough to experience the shitty ways women reject men, never been accused of harassment, never been cheated on or blackmailed, never went through a nasty divorce or breakup. And if he claims that he has, then I assure you he's either lying, or it was very mild in nature. He's likely comfortably transitioned from one LTR to another, so he's never experienced being single for long periods of time and thinks because he had a few girlfriends he's mastered the whole of game.
Condescending Advice. In addition to his relatively easy success with women, Chode Thunderdouche was also fortunate enough to read the horror stories early on about the friend zone, harassment accusations, cheating, slander, blackmail, bad divorces and breakups, and was intelligent enough to assimilate red pill principles into his life, thereby avoiding much of the bullshit that women pull. That's fine; good for him.
The problem is Chode then takes his newly acquired skills, and gives back to the community by pissing all over the men who've experienced the nasty sides of women, as if the way women treat him is the same for every other man, so something is always wrong with the guys, not knowing that many men had beta upbringings and consistently encountered manipulative bitches without knowing what to do about it. Chode is also the guy who goes around telling frustrated guys that getting laid is ridiculously easy, and then proceeds to shit all over their character because they're not as successful as he claims to be. Not to say that the advice of those who had it easier with women isn't valid, but Chode always attempts to shame men for their lack of success with women, rather than see where they're coming from and offering constructive advice.
So how can you tell Chode Thunderdouche took the Red Pill out of convenience and not despair? Because it's almost impossible to belittle anyone who's going down the path you went down. Their very story triggers memories of the shit you went through. So when Chode comes along and dissects what you say with criticisms and judgements, it's a telltale sign he's has never experienced your hardships and therefore cannot offer appropriate feedback. But he can't keep quiet about it or say something to encourage and build a man up. He has to tell the guy how much he sucks in comparison to him.
Anytime someone posts a problem they're having about dating, relationships or personal development, what they are saying in effect is, "I'm revealing a personal limitation or flaw that I would like your help in resolving." But rather than nurture that individual with constructive feedback, Chode unfailingly takes a shitty dump on all the flaws. And while we all might have a laugh at the things betas do for women, when a beta comes to the red pill community seeking guidance, those red pillers who've been down his path meet him with acceptance and support. Chode meets him with hostility.
Anti-Misogynistic. Another thing to mention is that Chode Thunderdouche is anti-misogynistic in nature. This is because Chode is still in the NAWALT way of thinking without even knowing it, because he's experienced mostly the "good side" of women (i.e. his LTRs), so he doesn't understand why some men are misogynists. His "worst" experiences with a woman are relationship arguments and the food she didn't season well. But instead of refraining from giving advice about something he knows nothing about, he responds with the overly-used "You suck. Stop hating women. Go lift." Not to say that helping someone get over misogyny is wrong, but Chode's form of help is simply condescending those who hate women without attempting to understand why. He still unconsciously has women on a pedestal, because he hasn't been burned by one yet, much less multiple times by different women.
So the 2 surefire ways you're dealing with a Chode Thunderdouche:
1. He's always condescending in his "advice".
2. He's anti-misogynistic because he's still NAWALT.
And believe it or not, Chode Thunderdouche is not concern trolling, because that implies deliberate, manipulative intent to provoke. No, because he's been living in his own little happy world and doing okay with women without getting burned, Chode honestly thinks one has to be an idiot to have the kind of problems many men have with women, so he treats them as such. Chode is like the hot blonde who thinks less attractive people just need to have a more positive attitude in order to be liked by others, completely unaware that her looks are the only reason people are nice to her.
I suppose the other possibility is Chode isn't really successful with women at all, but only reads the dating manuals and success stories of other men, and then passes that information on in forums as if he's had direct experience. But whether he's experienced or not, Chode isn't interested in helping anyone with their problems. He's here to fuel his ego by talking down to others in the form of advice, sort of like, "My shit don't stink but yours does, and it's important to my self-esteem that I mention that."
Conclusion:
Chode Thunderdouche is the internet tough guy of dating and relationships. He's either been fortunate to have consistent success with women with little effort that he can't relate to your problems, or he's an armchair philosopher with no experience at all. Either way, he will always attempt to make himself appear superior by belittling others. Ignore any advice about dating and personal development that's filled with insults and judgments.
And just to be clear, I'm not hating on those who had it easier than others. Just stop giving condescending advice to those who experienced hardships you know nothing about.
Source: I was a bit of a Chode in the real world so I know how to spot these kind of guys.
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