Roissy commenter dragnet wrote a brilliant, succinct post about the breakdown of gender roles and family values in our current society.
The presumably female commenter, Skadi, got him going with this offhand remark:
“dragnet, I understand your point very well. The problem is that today the family life has changed immensely since the times of your grandmother.”
dragnet rebuts:
Let’s stop right here for a second because this is really where the shit starts. You write that family life “has changed” — as if we all just woke up one morning and the shit was totally different. That’s not what happened and you fucking know it. What happened was that a minority of discontented women were no longer content to exercise traditional female power (their sexual power, and then their power as wives and mothers)and instead wanted to be able to wield traditionally male power in addition to that which they already had.
The idea that a woman had no power before feminism was always bullshit — women had tremendous power.
Women who were attractive to men had tremendous power, thanks to the social code of chivalry. It was the bitter, bitchy and ugly harridan feminists who had no sexual-based manipulative influence over men that resented their more attractive sister's feminine power. They resented watching women who were able, with a mere batting of the eyelashes or a seductive smile, get men to do anything they desired. These jealous, unattractive women coupled with angry lesbian marxists were the real agitators for changing the gender roles of society.
But they wanted more than power—they wanted authority which is the masculine form of power. And to get it, they made their personal grievances into a sociopolitical movement which the majority of women either tacitly supported or at the very least did nothing to hinder it.
In doing so, they necessarily emasculated and marginalized men & boys. The acquisition of power is a zero-sum game—it can only be obtained at the expense of someone else. The more traditional male power women obtained, the less men would be able to wield it.
Female Empowerment = Male Dis-empowerment.
Not that many men are “marriage/boyfriend prospects” because our society has rendered the vast majority of them undesirable partners by making them unable to satisfy the demands of hypergamy.
Hell, unable? Our society makes men completely unaware and clueless about the female's hypergamous sex drive. Everything in our culture and educational institutions tells men how to be "nice guys" so they can be "suitable" mates for women...and most guys follows these societal cues, and are confused and befuddled when they are told "Lets Just Be Friends."
Women can now wield traditional masculine (authority) and feminine (sexual) power while men most men are left with diminished masculine power. Men with diminished power are never attractive to women — but that’s what our society signed up for when we let women wield traditional masculine power in addition to what they had before.
Yup.
dragnet than excerpted another fallacy written by Skadi -
“Too many men avoid commitment, marriage, having children. Many men postpone these duties for as long as they can… Too many men are not fit to be husbands and fathers. The real masculinity is almost gone.”
Sounds like Skadi is taking the Kay Hymowitz Child-man in the promised land attitude. dragnet gives her a much deserved rebuke:
The real masculinity is gone because it’s become so heavily stigmatized and suppressed. Real masculinity — the determination by men to wield traditional male power — is persecuted by women as being oppressive and misogynistic.
Not just by women...don't forget the politically correct, SWPL mangina's and liberals who spout the same bullshit. I want to retch every time I read yet another male journalist, pundit or columnist...or hear some TV or radio talking head referring to violence or aggression, who condescendingly denigrates 'testosterone.'
We aren’t raising our boys to be confident and masculine because doing that is perceived as a threat to women being able to wield traditional male power in addition to traditional female power.
So many men are ill-equipped for commitment/marriage, because we’ve decided that to give them power that would make them fit for these institutions is to infringe upon the freedoms of women.
I think while this is a great point, it does need to be expanded on a bit. Along with the privilege that comes with the exercise of power, also comes the responsibility that it entails. The feminist social engineering of society has no problem giving men the responsibilities of power...so long as women receive the privileges and benefits...without any of the responsibilities.
Women and feminists have created a society of men bereft of the things women consider attractive — and are now complaining that the men are undesirable. Words fail.
It appears that words have failed Skadi. She has yet to respond.
“Good men” aren’t born, Skadi. They are made—and women have a place in creating them.
Let's not forget that much of the women creating today's men, are the single mother's whose only male role models they bring into the lives of their young boys is abusive, thuggish boyfriends.
Cultures create good and responsible men by giving them wives, children, and families—by giving them a reproductive investment. My grandfather didn’t become a “good man” until he married my grandmother and attended to the responsibilities of his family. Before that, he was just a “guy”. But he didn’t learn the full meaning of self-sacrifice, unconditional love, reliability, and steadiness until after he had a family and was able to bring traditional male power to bear in the service of caring for his household. Men these days don’t have that option because they don’t have traditional male power, and because women aren’t interested until marrying until much later when they have less to offer men. You couple that with misandrist divorce/family laws & VAWA and it’s really no wonder men aren’t marrying. Most men aren’t sitting it out waiting their turn on the casual sex carousel—because they know it’s not happening for 80 percent of the guys out there. They would have signed up for wives in their early 20s in a heartbeat if women were marrying that early…but they just aren’t because they’d rather pursue careers, graduate degrees, and alpha cock for 10-15 years first.
It's a brave new world of socially engineered gender roles.
You go girl.
