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Yeah he wants the woman to prove she isn’t like the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:39 AM
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Very interesting that you said goodbye like 10 times then continue to reply and converse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:42 PM
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You were pretty clear. Men who don’t pay for the first dates want to test and try women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:40 PM
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Yes. To prove she isn’t a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:40 PM
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Yes. It tells you if she’s a gold digger or not. Because men who don’t pay for the first dates expect women to jump through hoops to prove themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:39 PM
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Nothing was misunderstood. The man who doesn’t pay has a major prejudice and bigotry against women. The woman will be expected to perform to prove herself. It’s a pain in the ass and an uphill battle. We just pick better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:31 PM
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I know you didn’t say that. You did indicate that the man is going in with a prejudiced and bitter attitude and now the woman has to perform like a circus monkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:29 PM
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I know you stand by your comment. That’s why I am right. Even if you argue about the definition of a gold digger, a man who doesn’t pay for the first dates will constantly expect the woman to prove herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:28 PM
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Men who expect women to pay for first dates have a baseline view of women as gold diggers. You have to spend the entire relationship jumping through hoops to prove you aren’t there for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:52 PM
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Not when it comes to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:56 PM
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This isn’t an airport. You don’t need to announce your departure. I posted multiple quotes where you agree with what I said, even if it’s unintentional. Men who don’t pay for dates are expecting women to qualify themselves and prove themselves as non gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:55 PM
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Why would you tell me your sexual fantasy? You could have just said “I have always had kinky fantasies” and left it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:45 PM
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They aren’t going to act crazy or announce their traumas to everyone. Just because you don’t know about it doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:30 PM
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If anyone goes to a kink party, I am going to assume they are messed up in some way. Just because they don’t trauma dump on you or act insane doesn’t mean they don’t have problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:17 PM
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No. I said that liberal men hate women just as much as conservative men do. Hating women is a male thing. So is being verbally abusive when one doesn’t get their way. Men do that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:13 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/moem2yq7osih1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7d783ac5e2b55055d271c5846d40fddfcb2292e Like you literally said everything I said. Men who don’t pay for dates expect women to prove themselves as not gold diggers. I don’t know why you insist otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:08 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/2gesd4punsih1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46ca0221c97d0967fc21bb6df3bac106c5754340 Again, you literally prove my point. Men who don’t pay for dates view women as gold diggers and expect those women to spend the entire relationship proving that they aren’t gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:06 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/4wg0rulhnsih1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1864c266e56c723c46e5d4f5cbaebad6c08b5a6 See? Men who don’t pay for dates want women to prove that they aren’t gold diggers. It’s an uphill battle and a shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:04 PM
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See?????? I was right. Men who don’t pay for dates want women to prove that they aren’t gold diggers. It’s an uphill battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:03 PM
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Yes. You proved the point I was arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:59 PM
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If you have no interest in debating me, then don’t. You are just circlejerking. I’ll stick to the original point: men who don’t want to pay for dates view women as gold diggers. It’s a constant uphill battle to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:55 PM
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This is a debate sub. You have been proudly defending your argument that men who don’t want to pay don’t view women as gold diggers, but have said absolutely nothing to defend your point and given no alternative thought processes or ideas. It’s clear that you just are protective of these sorts of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:17 PM
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Ah yes now a threat of violence because you were completely unable to disprove that men who don’t want to pay for dates view women as gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 05:40 PM
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Men are bigots against women. Your post is an example of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 05:39 PM
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Now you’re saying contentless rhetoric. Because you have no argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 03:10 PM
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You don’t have a good explanation. Thats why. I am right. Men who are stingy about paying for dates view women as gold diggers. Dating them is an uphill battle. And for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:17 PM
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Then summarize their thought process if it isn’t about gold diggers and not wanting to set a precedent where they will be asked to pay for meals down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:55 PM
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I was giving credit to a woman who summarized thoughts I already had nicely. Every time men post about not wanting to pay for dates, their reasoning is always the same: they view women as greedy gold diggers who will go so far as to use a man for a simple meal. They don’t want to set a precedent where they will be expected to provide anything during a relationship in the future. Dating them will be a painful uphill battle and anything you ask for will be turned against you and get you branded as…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:52 PM
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Conservative men aren’t the only men who hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:22 PM
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If a man is suspicious to the point that he thinks most women are using him for something as simple as a meal, then dating him will be a major pain and uphill battle. He will constantly be making you jump through hoops to prove that you’re not a gold digger, and any time you ask him for anything, he will accuse you of using him. Furthermore, any nice thing he does, he will turn against you and use it as cannon fodder during any arguments. At his baseline, he views women as having a low moral cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:20 PM
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Imagine comparing “if you live with me, you have to contribute to rent” and “that bitch better have sex with me on the third date or I am trashing her”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:46 PM
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Yes because I was right. Men don’t like that women have financial expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:59 PM
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Yes because men are not kind, not loving, don’t provide, are mean and bitter and angry and are a pain to put up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:57 PM
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I think you’re just dodging the question because you and I know I am right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:44 PM
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Yeah and when you go on a men’s forum men talk about how bad men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:43 PM
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It’s not a conspiracy theory to say that adopting foster kids who are older is more complicated and nuanced than adopting a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:43 PM
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Explain how you benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:41 PM
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Ok that doesn’t sound very gentlemanly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:41 PM
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She said it’s expensive and you were trying to prove it can be cheap. But adopting older kids out of foster care isn’t a simple situation like adopting a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:19 PM
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An explanation of what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:06 PM
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https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/breast-size-by-country See???? Average bra size is A/ Bin France and A in Italy. A CUP. In the USA it’s a C because we are fatter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:04 PM
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Yeah because I am truth pilling you. Like 0.5% of women are busty petite and in their 20’s. Usually slim comes with a smaller bust. Usually larger busts come with being chubbier. You want this tiny busty petite demographic to somehow notice you and approach you and hit on you despite you not talking to them or showing any indicators of interest. The truth pill is that this isn’t realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:03 PM
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You didn’t explain yourself. You just said “nuh uh”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:53 PM
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A tiny percent of women will meet your physical standards. You want this tiny percent of women to just fall into your lap and hit on you with no effort on your part to the point that you say extremely sexist and hateful things about women because it hasn’t happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:52 PM
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She didn’t say that women don’t have agency. But if you go on the passport bros subreddits, mens forums, ppd, married red pill, instagram, etc there are tons of men who argue and genuinely believe that women should be the main homemakers and housekeepers of the home. Even if a man does some chores, women do the majority of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:45 PM
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The context is that you were trying to argue that adoption can be cheap. We understand. The person you’re responding to is explaining that it’s nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:32 PM
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Your profile bio does not portray the image of a sensitive gentleman good grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:28 PM
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OP’s profile bio is hardly respectful to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:22 PM
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You’ve posted about this before. Unfortunately, if you do not make an effort to approach someone and talk to them then they will not know you like them. If there is a specific person your are interested in, you have to talk to them. You can’t leave it up to chance. This isn’t about “masculinity”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:19 PM
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It’s heavily implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:08 PM
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Oh no! Women expect their life partners to financially contribute! What evil gold diggers!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:21 PM
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It was extremely obvious. Men like to do “gotchas” all the time. It’s their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:21 PM
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Big men flex about women sacrificing their values. Men don’t flex about sleeping with the town bicycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:02 PM
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Because most women consider sex with a new man degrading. Most women want to wait due to their personal beliefs. Men fantasize about women casting aside their values and not waiting. They never flex about easy women who have sex with a bunch of men also having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:36 AM
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I literally said “sacrificing her values” and men agreed that they want a woman to sacrifice her values. That is humiliation and degradation of a woman for men to flex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:36 AM
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I literally said that the woman is sacrificing her values for desire. This is humiliation. You agreed that is a sign of true attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:10 AM
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It’s not bigotry. It’s what men say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:27 AM
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So then don’t disagree with men. Men view humiliating and degrading women as a flex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:25 AM
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No they shouldn’t, because men measure desire differently from women. Women measure desire via love. Men measure desire via a woman sacrificing her values.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:47 PM
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Did you miss where I said “sacrifice her values”? Because that isn’t a shift of conversation. That was the original topic. You chimed in and said that this is true desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:47 PM
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No it’s how men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:31 PM
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So you agree that the only metric of desire that men have is how willing a woman is to suffer or hurt herself for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:14 PM
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You can love someone deeply without humiliating yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:38 PM
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You can experience being desired without expecting your wife or girlfriend to humiliate herself, cross her boundaries, or suffer to prove it. The male ego is so evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:38 PM
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They usually do it out of desperation and loneliness and a desire for validation, not because of “raw animal desire”. But it is true that men consider how much suffering and abuse and humiliation they can inflict upon a woman as a measure of how desirable she finds him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:37 PM
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And most men are perverts. Men will discard someone who deeply loves them for the sake of jizzing. This is why so many men leave their wives after their wives reach a certain age for a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:30 PM
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Yes. This is typical because men are perverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:16 PM
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Lust isn’t love. Why are the men here so naive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:52 PM
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She isn’t interrogating being wanted. She’s saying that it’s dumb to prioritize the idea that a woman will be so horny for you that she will throw away all logic and reason and have sex quickly and sacrifice her values.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:01 PM
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100
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:29 PM
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My LV key pouch that I got for $200 new now sells for $355 new and sells for over $200 on the resale market. My secondhand LV bags also sell for more than I purchased them for on the resale market. If I directly sell them myself on Facebook marketplace or whatever, I could get most of what I paid for back, and for some styles, more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:27 PM
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It’s a big deal because men call you a gold digger and get mad. Also electronics and cars are depreciating assets too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:36 AM
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I like to buy myself a nice purse (Coach, Tory Burch, etc) a few times a year and a luxury purse (Louis Vuitton, YSL) once a year or once every other year depending on budget. I love purses. I also buy cheap purses as I see fit. I cannot imagine how much of a nightmare it would be to be married and have my husband monitoring this habit and getting angry about my spending (as long as the bills are paid and our goals are met). I also like to go on a trip once or twice a year, more if money allows.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:53 AM
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Aka settling
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:19 AM
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They settle for everything else. Even you admit that they are settling because they can’t get younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:12 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/mytimetashine This is based on what men say about men and their preferences and thousands men agreeing with it. This profile is just a single example.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:12 AM
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They do. It’s their preference. Men settle for older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:32 AM
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That’s men’s preference. And most women(89%! I was being generous with 87%!) don’t meet men’s preferences. If a woman isn’t married by then, she is screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:31 AM
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key\_statistics/n-keystat.htm “I don’t hate women. I just think that they are grossly under reporting how many sex partners that they have in CDC studies”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:40 PM
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Rule 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:38 PM
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Then don’t engage. No one is forcing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:21 PM
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Most people don’t regularly have hookups. The average n count for women is 4 and for men its 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:20 PM
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And those rich women aren’t attractive enough to super rich men. So they go for rich men who are just less rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:09 PM
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You don’t understand sex at all. Penetration is often painful and uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:09 PM
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https://www.keeper.ai/calc Only 11% of women are young enough to meet men’s preferences (18-25).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:08 PM
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https://www.keeper.ai/calc Only 11% of women are under 25. Only 11% of women meet men’s preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:07 PM
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Nope. That isn’t true. Women are reasonable. Men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:07 PM
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These posts prove that men who are angry about paying for dates have a weird and misogynistic view of women. They never prove otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:06 PM
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Yes because I am in the bottom 87% of women. Men aren’t into the bottom 87% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:14 PM
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Because it’s untrue. It is true that men are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:13 PM
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No they don’t. Men give resources to women they find extremely attractive. The bottom 87% of women arent attractive enough to get jack shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:13 PM
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Yes. Men hate women. I am not sure why you’re offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:55 PM
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Men are not reasonable. Men are demanding, unrealistic, and hypergamous and will hurt women to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:55 PM
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Because men are not into women. They aren’t. Even you admit that sexual coercion is no big deal to men and “waters down rape”. Most men think like you do. Men aren’t into women. Men are vindictive and cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:54 PM
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No personal attacks. My point was clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:36 PM
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No women are reasonable. Men are bitter and mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:36 PM
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I didn’t say “every single man on earth”. But it’s enough men to generalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:36 PM
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Yes. We agree that men are horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:22 PM
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My point is that men devalue coercion and think that it’s nothing. Men are cruel and vindictive and bitter. It has everything to do with my main comment. Men are more concerned about not getting sex and taking revenge on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:22 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZsy6A5hFMi/ This is how most men view most women. With bitterness and hate. We know men hate us. <image> Men even think we have sex with our dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:21 PM
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Yes. Based on how they treat women, absolutely. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZsy6A5hFMi/ This guy’s entire profile is an example of how deeply men hate women. I can produce thousands of examples if you want me to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:20 PM
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This expectations don’t exist. Most women know most men aren’t bastions of kindness and compassion and that most men want revenge. We know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:42 PM
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You literally spent multiple comments insisting that lying about wanting a relationship is not coercion/ rape. That is male cruelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:41 PM
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See? Men are vindictive, bitter, and cruel. They think that insulting women and saying “most women aren’t reasonable” is an okay statement to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:41 PM
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There aren’t plenty of musks to go around. Many of these rich men are still rich, but less rich than their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:40 PM
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I literally commented two articles from legitimate authors that explain that lying is coercion. As I said, it’s a fact that men are vindictive and cruel. So many of them would get in trouble if lying about wanting a relationship was illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:39 PM
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None of what you said negates anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:38 PM
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Most women do consider the risks, which is why men have tantrums about how much average women don’t want average men. Because it’s not true. Women just are careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:36 PM
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Yes. Men tell on themselves. They are so hateful nd cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:14 PM
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For saying most women aren’t reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:14 PM
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Nope. I am saying it isn’t “feminism”, it’s fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:13 PM
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As I repeatedly said, this isn’t something that will go through in court. Why? Because the argument would be “he said, she said”. He could just say he changed his mind, which isn’t coercion. I didn’t make this up either. WebMD, article reviewed by Amber Felton, DO (which is the equivalent of an MD in the USA); https://www.webmd.com/sex/what-is-sexual-coercion Tricking you into having sex by lying to you or promising you things that weren’t true If you’re promising a relationship, and are intenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:27 AM
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Because my argument is that above a certain amount of wealth, women marry other wealthy men, including men who are less wealthy. There just aren’t enough Elon musks to go around and those women don’t want an Elon musk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:18 AM
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Lying about not wanting a relationship is not a little thing. It’s a massive thing. There isn’t a true way to prove anything in court. But it’s still coercion and it falls under the umbrella of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:00 AM
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Just because it isn’t illegal doesn’t mean it isn’t coercion which is under the rape umbrella.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:00 AM
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I didn’t make it up. You provided no data. I provided multiple examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:59 AM
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Even if we enjoy sex, you still have to understand that it’s deeply risky for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:58 AM
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Because men are creepy and coercive and get impatient and rude. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZGItlchf\_r/ This is a good example. And the men in the comments are a perfect example of how vindictive and cruel men are and how being propositioned for sex doesn’t mean a man finds you attractive. In fact, it means he finds you unattractive because he will have decorum and wait and be patient if he truly likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:53 AM
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Because there isn’t data on multi millionaires from the U.S. Census.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:51 AM
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Thank you for the award!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:42 AM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/?utm\_source Among wives who earn less than $25,000 annually, just 5% are the breadwinner in the marriage. By contrast, 43% of wives who earn $100,000 or more are the breadwinner in their marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:41 AM
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See? Men hate women. Water is wet. The sky is blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:35 AM
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See? Men are cruel. Water is wet. It’s sexual coercion. Just because it isn’t illegal doesn’t mean it isn’t coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:34 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape\_by\_deception As I said: men are vindictive, lazy, bitter, and cruel Now lying about wanting a relationship will not get prosecuted in court, and falls more under coercion than rape. But just because it’s not illegal doesn’t mean that it isn’t an absolutely degenerate and evil thing to do. It’s interesting that so many men agree with you in a men’s rights forum. So it isn’t “feminism”. It’s just reality. Like water being wet. Men don’t like women and actively …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:32 AM
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No it’s not. It’s realty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:26 AM
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Very often. I already gave the example of Arianna grande and Oprah. Britney Spears also comes to mind with Kevin federline.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:17 AM
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Except for I am not a feminist. I acknowledge that men are vindictive, lazy, bitter, and cruel. That’s not feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:16 AM
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I didn’t say rich women marry ugly, broke men. I said rich women date less rich and less attractive men. There’s a spectrum. The examples I listed weren’t broke men (they were ugly). They did have dramatically less money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:29 AM
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Your statistics aren’t about rich women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 11:04 PM
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Rich women happily date less rich men and less attractive men. Look at Oprah, Ariana grande’s ex who left his wife for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:47 PM
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1. If a man took that idea to its logical conclusion, he could reject nearly every traditional masculine expectation: never initiate dates, never pay, never protect, never suppress emotions, never pursue leadership because those are "just gender roles." Men already do this. Not because of gender roles, but because they are lazy or fear rejection. 2. A man could politely decline dates, refuse to comfort acquaintances, avoid being an emotional support system, or remain single without guilt. But th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:52 PM
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Because as soon as ugly men become rich, their true standards come out. Ugly men want exceptionally hot women. They are just settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:23 PM
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A man isn’t “soft” because he cooks and cleans and is emotionally intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:30 PM
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See this is what I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 04:53 PM
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I don’t verbally abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:22 PM
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Korean makeup isn’t a heavy, caked on face of makeup. Korean skincare is skincare, not makeup. Again, women don’t regularly wear a lot of makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:22 PM
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You said “you’ll see”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:15 PM
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An I knew it was a “gotcha” question! It communicates being gay because a) it isn’t a popular style for men and never was and b) the butt cheeks are showing on a male, and straight women don’t care about men’s butt cheeks but straight men do. Women who wear “whale tails” are mimicking a trend from the 00’s. <image> This image is from Google. The women aren’t communicating that they are lesbian. They are communicating super casual party style and a more carefree attitude about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:14 PM
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Women are already discouraged from wearing heavy makeup. Most women don’t wear heavy makeup every day because it’s inconvenient, time consuming, and yes, culture tells women that they look bad with heavy makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 09:47 AM
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Wait you want the government to stop women from wearing heavy makeup??? Wtf????
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 07:13 AM
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Because if you’re living together and sharing all the money, you’re paying more! Yucky!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 06:05 AM
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Yes. You would be an informal provider. Yucky
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 06:05 AM
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That’s a 3:1 ratio. She wouldn’t be paying for her stuff. You would. Because you would be making more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:37 AM
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Yes. You’re so bitter that she makes less than you. If you live together, you would be paying more of the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:37 AM
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Men are the ones who struggle to be monogamous. Not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:36 AM
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Except for she makes less and that isn’t a 50|50 split. You resent that. “Grow up” is what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:08 AM
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But she makes dramatically less. Date within your tax bracket or grow up. Stop virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:07 AM
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See? You are bitter. You claim you’re okay with a woman making $50k to your $150k a year, but the reality is she won’t be able to pay 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:03 AM
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She isn’t giving 50% if she makes $50k to his $150k a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:03 AM
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<image> This is exaggerated but it’s what I found on Google. There was an era where seemingly every young male was wearing pants like this. Now this isn’t the style anymore. What you posted op was never the style. It communicates being gay, which is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:58 AM
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So it’s a trap. You want to do a “gotcha” about women wearing thongs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:47 AM
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No because she may make $50k a year and he may make $150k a year and you would be upset about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:40 AM
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Yes. Having an attitude of bitter, hostility, and rage. He could simply say “I can’t afford it” or “I don’t like spending money on people” or “I expect my future girlfriend/ wife to make a substantial financial contribution to my life” and move on with his life. But his outrage and hostility indicate that he has severe issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:39 AM
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Lol no we don’t. Most women aren’t attractive. Most men don’t want most of us beyond saying yes if we proposed casual sex. But we can tell if a guy is trying to impress us versus just being platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:37 PM
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Marriage isn’t equal. You both give 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:36 PM
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Nope. Potential abuser because of his bitterness and hostility and rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:36 PM
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Because even in an egalitarian society, women face sexism. Also, male construction workers get paid money for their work and fight for legal rights. Their legal rights do not include sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:35 PM
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I am saying most are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:31 PM
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So you are saying that the beautiful medical student who is 16 years younger than you has a lower SMV than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:03 PM
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You aren’t a NEET if you’re on summer break
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:55 PM
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Plenty of men work hard labor jobs and are happily married. An office job that pays well is a blessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:50 PM
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That’s paternity leave. Not stay at home father.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:44 PM
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Good grief men aren’t victims because they have a more comfortable job with higher pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:40 PM
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Someone has to pay the bills while the mother recovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:39 PM
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That’s because her vagina/ uterus/ belly got ripped up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:27 PM
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And isn’t she 16 years younger than you? Men disprove female hypergamy every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:23 PM
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So yes it is perfectly fine to not be a feminist and infact have some arrangement that let men enjoy sex and intimacy in society too or let society collapse and nature take over which would not be best for women but ensure everyone a free and fair chance at living So men are making threats of violence or rape because they aren’t having the sex lives they believe they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:13 PM
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Men are picky, water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:10 PM
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Why is this your answer? Most women can’t afford it. Is this some sort of “gotcha”?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:08 PM
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It’s not a loaded question. Men here like to go on and on about how men built society and women owe them gratitude and subservience but then they work an office job.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:03 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/mytimetashine See this guy has built a platform on rejecting women and telling them how worthless they are and men agree. He is no Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:56 PM
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<image> The guy I linked is so angry about dating profiles and how worthless the women on dating are that they want to remove the right to vote from women. 17 men agree and he commented that he wants it to happen but never will and another guy agrees that he wants to eliminate the right to vote from women. Based on dating profiles they say are unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:55 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/mytimetashine This guy built a following on male pickiness and males agree with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:53 PM
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Verbal abuse is abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:54 PM
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See? Monogamy is a basic concept and men consider it a compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:52 PM
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It is though. Men get picky
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:50 PM
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By definition you are abusive. It’s right there. If multiple women have called you an abuser, then perhaps you need to self-examine. It’s not an insult if it’s a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:02 PM
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You said it’s a myth. You’re admitting it’s not a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:58 PM
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They offer nothing. Thats the point. Besides misery and anger and extra work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:01 PM
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No they don’t. We don’t live in a tv show. As long as everyone is respectful, we don’t carry hard feelings if we don’t like the guy back. We are usually flattered. Usually we know that the guy we met who we are chatting with is most likely interested in us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:51 PM
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The guy told that woman to approach ugly men. I am telling you that ugly men aren’t magically less superficial or less picky or more compassionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:47 PM
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Literally just say what those guys offer in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:46 PM
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Ok she wasn’t attractive to you, but she clearly was attractive enough to be a sugar baby. In your original comment, you made it sound like you had some sort of air bnb or room for rent and had multiple women on vacation stay at your room for rent and that they all went on dates with guys who showed them around town. Which is a trivial and frivolous thing. It’s just going on dates and possibly hooking up. This isn’t sex work. Then you clarified (which wasn’t even clear at all in the first place)…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:45 PM
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That isn’t a myth. The video may be a joke but the joke is still a mean joke. The old short guy who has ugly features is rich and wants only the hottest women. He has the power to be extremely picky. He only goes for hot sugar babies who are like 21, not women who are his own age for a life partnership. Thats how ugly guys get when they have the ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:38 PM
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This is called “semantic nitpicking”. Redditors are obsessed with it. No one is being emotional. Circular arguments and condescension are forms of verbal abuse. https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/what-is-verbal-abuse https://youtu.be/i4VMM7Cc42w Now in a ROMANTIC CONTEXT, what do men offer women? Surely since you’re so passionate about defending men, you can come up with a few things?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:36 PM
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https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/what-is-verbal-abuse#condescension Condescension is a form of verbal abuse. You just proved that men don’t just provide nothing, but also have abusive tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:31 PM
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I don’t see their future. I am saying they are not good partners. https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/what-is-verbal-abuse#condescension Condescension is a form of verbal abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:30 PM
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So when women want men to pay for a couple dates, you insult these women, call them prostitutes, and go on rants about how entitled they are. But then when men expect a woman to be attractive AND bring in a full-time income AND have sex on demand AND be homemakers, you get defensive. You say it’s simple and “not the same”. Shit of course it isn’t the same. IT IS WORSE!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:29 PM
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Women work outside the home AND do more housework. “So do men.” Yes men do LESS.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:27 PM
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I didn’t say women are godlike beings. But women offer practical value over sentimental value. We work and contribute income. We cook and clean and do housework. We take care of the kids. We manage everyone’s lives. And men don’t value any of that labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:23 AM
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Men view monogamy as compromise. Women don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:48 AM
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That doesn’t change anything. The men on this sub generally have the qualities I listed and are horrible people. They would make abusive and miserable partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:18 AM
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So you helped an exceptionally attractive lady in a shitty desperate situation, who prostituted herself on hinge, and you apply this to women in general. Yikes. Thats a horrible way of thinking. And just because she continued life as a sugar baby (prostitute) and only posts the good stuff on social media, it doesn’t mean she isn’t being sexually abused. Having your own money and wealth is so much more valuable than depending on fickle and weird men. If she had any wisdom, she would have studies …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:17 AM
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Bitter Vindictive Angry Verbally abusive That’s how the guys here are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:28 AM
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Yes. Your speech is nasty and vindictive and it’s alarming that you’re their landlord. You don’t have to say anything to have hateful thoughts. > woman goes on a trip > woman goes on a dating app on said trip > woman has a couple fun dates. Guys get to hang out with a beautiful woman. > if she’s interested in hooking up, she will > if she’s interested in a relationship and potentially doing the long distance thing or moving she will > if it doesn’t work out, they had a pleasant experience > you:…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:26 AM
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I am proving that women are not hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:18 AM
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See? Men. Expect. Way. More.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:18 AM
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Men literally view consideration as compromise
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:17 AM
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He’s a bitter man with issues. Much like the men who get bitter and angry about paying for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:47 AM
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Men expect way more. Men expect women to have sex on demand, be thin, be young, be beautiful, work full time, and be homemakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:47 AM
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When men mention a girlfriend, they prove that women are desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:46 AM
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She means in the context of relationships. Considering that this forum and all the topics on this forum pertain to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:46 AM
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Women are both desperate and miserable. Men resent all women who aren’t in the top 5%. The desperate bottom 95% of women get used as placeholders and holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:45 AM
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It’s not entitled because men expect way more and for a lifetime. I don’t care if I am called names. I still speak the truth about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:44 AM
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Claiming women are entitled and selfish is bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:44 AM
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We date men and we socialize with women who date men. It’s incredibly common. Women constantly communicate and beg men to change and me get offended and call women misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:05 AM
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Men working jobs doesn’t magically make them good partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:04 AM
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Yes because most women are desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:04 AM
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List a few things. Most women are desperate and will date a man who provides very little.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:04 AM
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What do you offer though?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:03 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/Dbb6BhguaRR/ How ugly men behave and think the moment they get any amount of money or options.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:01 AM
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Yes. He usually is. The bigotry and bitterness in this thread is proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:55 AM
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You describe women as entitled, which isn’t true. Women are desperate. You describe women as transactional. That’s bigotry and untrue. Men are the transactional ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:55 AM
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No I am looking for a guy who isn’t bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:34 AM
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Men do it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:34 AM
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I don’t care about equality. There is no true equality in marriage. I care about someone who is not going to make my life a living hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:55 PM
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Yes men tell women to pick better men then actively encourage women to pick potential abusers and express that they agree with abusive points of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:54 PM
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Not if you do it over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:04 PM
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She isn’t stealing their wallet. She’s spending time with a guy who finds her pretty and enjoys spending time with her. Also, she can move if they fall for each other, especially if she’s young and still figuring life out. Maybe she is looking for a husband. I would enjoy being with a nice handsome guy as my tour guide and would consider moving if we hit it off, but we would have to do long distance and fly to each other for a while. Imagine being this nasty and vindictive to the people you rent…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:04 PM
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No it isn’t. Talking to a woman at a running or art club isn’t “fuck zoning”!!!! WTF????
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:00 PM
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Do you not understand that a) the guy is enjoying his time with an attractive young woman and showing her around and b) if he knows she’s a tourist then he knows she won’t be there long enough for a relationship to form???!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:55 PM
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Yeah Thats why you find a way to get to know them, like joining a mutual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:54 PM
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Most don’t have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:54 PM
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So blame everything on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:53 PM
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I didn’t say a number. You did. Men are so bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:37 PM
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That doesn’t mean women don’t find men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:37 PM
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It’s bigotry and not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:36 PM
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I want nothing to do with most strangers. They are strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:38 PM
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The guys who say yes may be willing to use her for sex or keep her around as a placeholder until they monkey branch to someone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:38 PM
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🙄 then men shouldn’t argue
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:37 PM
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Moving the goalposts. This is about the first few dates, not every outing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:35 PM
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Op described a situation with a disrespectful guy and men completely ignored it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:34 PM
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Women want to interact. Just don’t hit on them blindly. JFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:33 PM
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The rules say no linking to ppd or similar subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:33 PM
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You literally called it thought policing to not want your sex partner to think you’re “uggo”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:33 PM
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It’s not thought policing to not want your partner to think you’re unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:32 PM
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Exactly. To you, hate is truth. Why should a woman date a guy who hates women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:28 PM
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It’s not questions it’s criticisms of the male gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:27 PM
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That’s what you guys say about yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:27 PM
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That’s why you get to know women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:27 PM
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Sexual harassment. You dismissed sexual harassment. Your excuse was that women dismiss men’s issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:27 PM
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Yes but the point is to avoid greedy/ petty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:26 PM
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Don’t date poor women then. And how tf is she using hinge to fund her trip!??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:26 PM
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And the guy who isn’t paying for dinner is honest about his financial abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:25 PM
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See? Imagine combining finances with a guy who has this mindset. It’s a mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:11 PM
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It’s a filter. Op said a lot of horrible things about women. It’s a small way to filter those guys out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:04 PM
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I mean you said a lot of horrible things about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:04 PM
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You said a lot of horrible things about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:03 PM
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I didn’t say it protects women from bad men. I said it’s a small filter. You’ve made multiple hateful and disparaging comments about women. You prove me correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:02 PM
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I did. You literally dismissed w dual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:59 PM
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No you’re name calling them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:47 PM
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HE STILL WANTED 50/50!!!!!!!!!! Men who want 50/50 are bitter and petty!!!!! It’s impossible for life to be 50/50!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:47 PM
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I didn’t say it’s the only filter. I said it’s a small filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:47 PM
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See? Describing women as parasites = should avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:46 PM
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Because you want to have a last word since you lost the debate and that is the only way for you to feel any kind of satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:46 PM
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I didn’t say they don’t exist. I am talking about how women protect themselves from bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:45 PM
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You aren’t treating women like adults by name calling them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:45 PM
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Most men do not have enough money for women to use them for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:35 PM
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See?!! Why would we want to date a guy who calls women parasites??? Come on!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:35 PM
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He was lying about it. He literally expressed resentment about making more money multiple times. He wanted 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:34 PM
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You aren’t treating women like equal human beings if you describe them as entitled and greedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:31 PM
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I made a thread earlier about a guy who was in a relationship with a woman for a year. Apparently she thought he was hoping to be with her for life via marriage or an LTR. He never had such intentions and was just enjoying her company, validation, and sex. When she learned this, she broke up with him. She told him she wished he told her this earlier so she could waste less time. Men dogpiled onto men to say that she deserved it because she didn’t sit him down and say “where is this going?” They …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:30 PM
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Nope. I am not. I avoid cruel men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:24 PM
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Women don’t want “free shit”. A guy who views a dinner as “free shit” is not a good future partner and he will be petty throughout the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:22 PM
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I understand. That’s why I said it isn’t the only way nor the strongest way. Thats why I said it’s a “small way”. Usually men who are resentful about paying for a date are resentful about other facets of life and will nickel and dime a woman throughout a relationship. Best practice is to avoid him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:20 PM
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Why would we choose someone who is bitter and resentful over someone who isn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:19 PM
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Your attitude is a reason why women want men to pay for dates. I don’t give a shit about money or food. I want to filter out bitter men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:16 PM
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Expecting a guy to pay is just a small way to filter out men who resent women. Your post is four entire paragraphs expressing resentment and disdain for women who want dinner paid for. This isn’t a personal attack. But that level of resentment and bitterness and anger and cruelty will manifest itself in various ways in relationships. You also express disdain for holding doors open and offering women a seat. Women become especially financially vulnerable during a relationship and marriage. If a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:03 PM
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You are better off rejected rudely than strung along for a year for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:58 PM
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They are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:55 PM
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If a woman doesn’t like a man who approaches her, she says no and moves on with life. If a man doesn’t like a woman who approaches him, he will say yes and use her for sex or as a placeholder. Which is way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:50 PM
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He was lying when he said that. He wanted 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:48 PM
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You don’t care about women’s feelings to the point that you make personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:33 AM
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Men are incredibly cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:52 PM
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Men do it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:51 PM
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*men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:51 PM
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You literally accused me of taking SSRI’s and weed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:50 PM
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I don’t take either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:50 PM
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No race baiting
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:49 PM
1

You lashed out about beards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:28 PM
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This is wildly untrue. Even rapists don’t go to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:28 PM
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You tried to rationalize it and make excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:09 PM
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Moving the goalposts from “something is wrong and scary” to “they should go to jail”. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:09 PM
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Even if he isn’t following you around, a man saying “nice ass” is scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:38 PM
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No matter how you try to rationalize it, catcalling is scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:37 PM
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No even saying “nice ass” or whistling at someone is scary and concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:35 PM
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Men constantly do, 24/7/365 and women simply make their own movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:57 PM
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You dismissed catcalling as not an actual danger when it is. You blame women for being afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:54 PM
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A guy following you around and saying “nice ass” is an overt danger. He already crossed a sexual boundary and may decide to touch you instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:54 PM
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Then discuss the premise instead of hearing it and saying she’s saying to never talk to women again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:53 PM
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Considering that you don’t care about catcalling and flippantly dismiss it as “ugly men” when for most women it’s a concerning and scary experience, I am not sure why you care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:52 PM
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/catcalling the act of shouting a loud, sexually suggestive, threatening, or harassing call or remark at someone publicly https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/catcalling the action of calling out or whistling (= making a high sound by blowing) at someone in an insulting way, usually expressing* [unwanted](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/unwanted)[*sexual*](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sexual) [int…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:51 PM
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Thank you!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:49 PM
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Then don’t cry that women dismiss men’s experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:45 PM
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You literally are dismissing a scary experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:44 PM
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If she doesn’t want to converse just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:44 PM
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They are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:44 PM
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Ok but why isnt he bringing up the situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:44 PM
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That’s such a cold and callous answer. Men radicalize women into misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:23 PM
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Cold approaching is asking someone out right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:18 PM
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A guy screaming out “nice ass!” Is frightening and uncomfortable. It’s normal and natural for that to be frightening and uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:18 PM
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Most men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:17 PM
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No I said the men here are getting very defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:14 PM
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They also associate this behavior with status! They think this is a status symbol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:14 PM
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So you are saying that men don’t care about making women frightened or uncomfortable. And I am supposed to think most men are good and kind???
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:02 PM
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All the men getting defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:25 PM
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It’s frightening and uncomfortable in most situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:25 PM
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Because he’s angry that the split of finances isn’t 50/50 and that he’s earning more than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:24 PM
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See? Cold approaching and asking out strangers is rude and extremely unlikely to be successful. Why are men so angry about this fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:54 PM
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That’s the premise of her post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:53 PM
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He earned more money. She had a higher base income. You insulted my reading comprehension skills but overlooked that. Base income: so she had a job that let’s say, at its base, makes $80k a year. Overall income: let’s say his job has a base income of $50k a year. But because of overtime and commission and bonuses or whatever, he pulls $100k a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:52 PM
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Because he was providing more than 50/50. She earned more BASE income. He earned more OVERALL because he worked more hours. For someone who made personal attacks about my reading comprehension skills, you should practice what you preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:50 PM
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It is true. There are so few beds for women that the waiting lists are months long.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:49 PM
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“A girl there had added him to facebook and he screenshotted her boobs and was making sexual comments about them to her in dms. She blocked him and complained to the gym.” - OP’s post Why are men so protective of this sort of behavior? You can get to know a woman over time then ask her out instead of blindly hitting on every woman you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:31 PM
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“A girl there had added him to facebook and he screenshotted her boobs and was making sexual comments about them to her in dms. She blocked him and complained to the gym.” - OP’s post Why are men so protective of this sort of behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:29 PM
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“A girl there had added him to facebook and he screenshotted her boobs and was making sexual comments about them to her in dms. She blocked him and complained to the gym.” - OP’s post Why are men so protective of this sort of behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:29 PM
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“A girl there had added him to facebook and he screenshotted her boobs and was making sexual comments about them to her in dms. She blocked him and complained to the gym.” - OP’s post Why are men so protective of this sort of behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:28 PM
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You can talk to women and get to know them over time, see if you vibe, and then ask them out. You shouldn’t cold approach every woman you see then play victim when those women feel uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:27 PM
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You can get to know a woman at the gym for a while, see if you hit it off, then ask for her number. You don’t need to cold approach every woman you see at the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:23 PM
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He is earning more income. He’s earning more money. He resents it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:22 PM
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No there are fewer beds because men can fight off the women if their lives are at risk and women know it. There aren’t even enough DV beds for women as it is and those dv shelters for women have waiting lists that are months long.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:22 PM
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I clearly am saying he isn’t that person. It’s obvious he’s angry that she isn’t earning more and contributing more financially because he’s a 50/50 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:21 PM
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How can you have the audacity to say you feel oppressed because you aren’t catcalled!?! Catcalling is frightening and off putting. Catcalling is not asking a woman you got to know for a bit on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:16 PM
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Nope. He’s a 50/50 man who resents that he’s earning more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:12 PM
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He’s. Thats why they have DV shelter beds for men. There just are fewer because men are stronger, bigger, and more violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:12 PM
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Yes. And because he’s a 50/50 man, he deeply resents that he’s earning more. I already said it. You can make all the personal attacks you want, but I clearly said so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:11 PM
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She paid the bills too. She made a higher base income than him, but because he worked longer hours, he made more money. He DEEPLY resented her and said that it’s his work that got them the house. It’s a true 50/50 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:49 PM
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No it’s clear to me that he was the type that demanded to split the bill. He wasn’t a provider. She provided too, but he resented that he made more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:46 PM
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Yes because if a man is physically in danger, most men are physically strong and big enough to not have their lives be put in danger by a woman. Men are bigger and stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:45 PM
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I read that study. The study doesn’t say that women use men for food. The study said that 30% of women women were more likely to say yes to a date with a guy they weren’t super into if they thought “well at least if it doesn’t work out, I’ll get a free meal out of it”. That isn’t using a man for food, but a bunch of men got triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:44 PM
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See? Thats the attitude of the guy in the reddit link that you called abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:42 PM
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Yes. I am sure he split the bill. Because he has the attitude of someone who splits the bill. You’ve done nothing but prove me correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:42 PM
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And you’re basically admitting that men socially validate each other for their cruelty. Because men are cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:41 PM
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I didn’t say women don’t do the same thing. I am saying that men do it with greater frequency, greater magnitude, and in a mob. A woman may make a mean joke or be snarky. Men will form a mob and degrade a woman en masse online.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:41 PM
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Yeah but there are DV shelter beds for men so it makes your point void.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:40 PM
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I understand that men find this funny when a woman is literally just minding their own business. This is why I am saying men are particularly cruel. Women do not make fun of men just for existing. This isn’t just a few comments. Each comment garnered thousands of likes. It wasn’t just an edgelord troll at the bottom of the comments section. https://www.np.reddit.com/u/Acrobatic-Monk9735/s/Za38kKlRxj This is precisely how the men of PPD speak and behave. This is what women deal with regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:01 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTQYmexkr5C/ Example 1 If you would like more, I can produce dozens. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:44 AM
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I am saying lots and lots of men think the way you do. It’s no fun to approach them and deal with their misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:24 AM
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I don’t see a point in approaching and making an effort on men when they view us as delusional (unable to understand reality) and spoiled (incredibly privileged). That disdain, bitterness, and hate seeps into relationships and presents itself as a multitude of different miseries and relationship problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:06 AM
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Personal attacks, eh? Men are the biggest contributors to misandry. You just proved that a) men enjoy insulting women and calling them a joke and b) view women as dumb and unable to view reality. 🥱 Remind me why we should pander to men and approach them, again? Your view is a common one. Why approach men when so many men view us like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:06 AM
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When the bill comes it’s different because you aren’t married and aren’t combining finances. Most men are takers so paying the bill shows he isn’t going to be greedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:04 AM
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I didn’t say splitting the bill is domestic abuse. Splitting the bill is one way (not the only way) to filter out men who have a weird mentality about marriage and money
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:03 AM
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Nope. Thats just your imagination. If you count talking first, then women and men do it equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:09 PM
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So then this happens multitudes of times. Men just want to insult women and call women lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:37 PM
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There are domestic violence shelter beds for men too. https://www.artemishouse.org/about-us
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:34 PM
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It’s one of many filters to pick better men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:50 PM
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It’s a way to avoid men who have this mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:50 PM
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See? It’s a way to avoid SOME abusive men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:50 PM
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Not really. Just repeating what men say about men (eg polygyny) is mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:59 PM
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Didn’t say it’s a guarantee I just am saying that it’s one of many ways to filter out crappy guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:59 PM
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Most homeless shelter beds are for men. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:58 PM
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Women don’t really describe women as polygamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:58 PM
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The reality is most women don’t want casual sex. Men aren’t victims because women aren’t as into casual sex. It’s not a bad thing if you filter out women who don’t want casual sex and simply some have casual sex. It’s dramatically worse if you coerce or mislead someone into casual sex because you are so worried about not getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:49 PM
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See? Personal attacks. My point is proven. A way to filter out SOME abusive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:47 PM
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Men who think this way about paying for dates should be avoided. You are only proving me correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:47 PM
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It’s abuse because of the name calling, bitterness, pettiness, and cruelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:46 PM
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Thousands of abusive male comments and men “liking” each other’s abusive comments and name calling men who disagree or call out the bullying for what it is and it consistently happening every time a woman is unattractive, over 25, or a single mom is a mob.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:46 PM
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I don’t care if most men don’t do it. If a single mom exists online, a mob of men show up to degrade her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:44 PM
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Why do I have to walk on eggshells and deal with something I don’t want to deal with when I can simply choose someone else or be alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:44 PM
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Oh it’s not a handful. It’s a mob.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:59 PM
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He literally says it’s okay to verbally abuse and shit on single moms. That is hateful. Why do men insist they aren’t hateful?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:58 PM
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It was a hateful statement. He said single moms treat men badly and that they deserve verbal abuse. This is hate. It’s not a personal attack to state a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:58 PM
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Literally in both you’re discussing your future.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:54 PM
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Men spout insults and cry about misandry when women literally repeat what men say about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:52 PM
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Why would I talk about it? So I can put him on the defensive and start an argument? “Oh I don’t think you would be willing to combine finances” okay he will throw a tantrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:46 PM
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Women can. Women are crucified daily on this forum and we put up with it. Men get deeply angry about simple truths. We are done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:46 PM
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Why shouldn't he be able to get short-term fun? What if he really is just looking for that? No one is stopping him. If he wants casual sex, it’s okay. But you can’t self-victimize and complain when women want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:45 PM
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I do see men who want to go 50/50 in this way. It should be 100/100.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:21 PM
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I understand, but if he’s coming in with this mentality in the beginning of the dating process, then he’s going to carry it throughout the dating process and into marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:20 PM
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I think bitter and angry and greedy men are significantly more likely to be abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:50 PM
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The guy pays more of the bills in that story and dangles it over his wife’s head every time they fight. And en calls her lazy. Just like you claim women use you as an ATM, he is attacking his wife for depending on him financially even though it sounds like they both make substantial incomes. A guy who is greedy about paying for the first dates will also be bitter about financially supporting his wife, even if she is also working outside the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:50 PM
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Oh I don’t announce it. I just quietly leave. https://www.np.reddit.com/r/Advice/s/B6aVKLVIhT This is what I want to avoid. Men like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:42 PM
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https://www.np.reddit.com/r/Advice/s/B6aVKLVIhT Oh no it doesn’t offend me. Expecting the guy to pay is the first line of defense to protect against guys like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:34 PM
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I wouldn’t throw a fit but I also wouldn’t see the guy again. If we get married, he would likely be greedy about money. Better find someone who isn’t greedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:31 PM
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See? Good men don’t think they are being treated as an ATM because they paid for a meal at TGI Fridays.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:28 PM
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A guy paying for food isn’t giving me money. He’s paying for food. Again: good men don’t have this resentful mindset, good men aren’t bitter like this, and good men aren’t greedy like this. It’s an easy filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:23 PM
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So most shelter beds are for men and you’re butthurt that more aren’t for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:22 PM
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See GoodMen^tm don’t have this sort of bitterness and pettiness about them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:21 PM
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A guy who calls women glorified prostitutes isn’t a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:19 PM
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See? Making the guy pay is an easy way to filter out men who call us “glorified prostitutes”. Men who hate women = bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:18 PM
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See? This is the bitter attitude that i highly recommend women avoid. It’s a one way ticket to getting abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:18 PM
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Men who don’t pay usually have extremely bitter and weird attitudes about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:17 PM
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So when I literally say what men say about men, it’s misandry. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:13 PM
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So then he would be the one asking the woman out, and you would be calling her lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:12 PM
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That’s the implication though. You paint men as victims because women don’t invest much. They aren’t. It’s casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:01 AM
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I did circle back. You just produced contentless rhetoric. I am not going to produce contentless rhetoric. The guy isn’t a victim. Women aren’t bitches. He was going to have casual sex and it didn’t work out. That’s life. He clearly gets matches and has other options of women. Eventually one he is compatible with will show up and they will form a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:55 AM
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It was grossly personal. Circling back to the original point, men cannot handle honest truths about their own gender and get offended when a stranger online who they are seeking casual sex with ghosts because they aren’t available the day they want to have casual sex. He isn’t a victim nor is the woman a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:51 AM
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I am saying that’s a major reason for cycle tracking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:49 AM
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https://www.np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/X1pOn7E3eV It’s here. Every single day women go through this. A woman who is unattractive on the internet gets verbally abused by armies of men. And it’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. Existing online for unattractive women = verbal abuse from men. Women do NOT verbally abuse unattractive men who are simply existing with the intensity, frequency, and passion that men do. Women do NOT dogpile onto the profile of a fat man who is flexing his outfit or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:49 AM
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No personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:44 AM
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https://www.np.reddit.com/r/Advice/s/3cKwsbskf9 See? Daily male behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:39 AM
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And to check for pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:39 AM
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Then end it. At this point you’re just shitposting because you want to have a last word.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:38 AM
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Then just end it. You don’t need to announce your departure. This isn’t an airport.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:37 AM
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It does. Women are desperate. Especially as they get older. That’s what men tell us too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:35 AM
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You keep track of the cycle to make sure you don’t get her pregnant. It’s not for true love.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:33 AM
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You also dismissed stringing a woman along for an entire year just for sex and called it “entitled” for her to want a more long-term relationship such as marriage or a life partnership. It’s daily speech like this from men. I am not going to look for data on it, which is what you repeatedly are trying to probe me into so you can do a “gotcha”. I understand that your argument is that it’s just a teensy minority of men. But it’s all over the internet, all forms of popular social media, and constan…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:33 AM
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Well addressing the original post, op describes a basic relationship as “simping”. He also calls women who wants refer men who pay for the first date”parasites”. Thats pretty foul and disgusting and bigoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:04 AM
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You were going to have casual sex with the First Lady. This isn’t something serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:59 AM
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The premise for him was casual sex. This woman wanted to have casual sex with him. He wasn’t available. She found someone else. He isn’t a man of virtue who lost his beloved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:58 AM
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Yeah because he’s also matching with other old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:57 AM
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Men are less likely to suddenly lose interest because they have the possibility of ejaculation and new pussy and because their ego is involved not because they have virtue or emotional investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:53 AM
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That guy was old and homeless adjacent (couch surfing). He just felt he was above those women because they were fat. Men are vile. Men radicalize women into misandry. Feminists don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:52 AM
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I found three comments of you saying absolutely vile things about women. Why do men spout such hatred then gaslight women and insist that they aren’t hateful???
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:51 AM
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See? Men radicalize women with misandry. Men express their contempt and disdain for women. Feminists don’t radicalize women. Men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:50 AM
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Men are worse. Men repeat a joke meme from 10 years ago. Women get sexually abused and used and men taunt them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:47 AM
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By multiple measures. You guys have been regurgitating a meme from like 10 years ago that was a joke and I have multiple current examples of men degrading women and minimizing wasting a woman’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:47 AM
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I am saying men are worse
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:13 AM
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No. I am pointing out that you can insist that men don’t radicalize women all you want but then you also participate in radicalizing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:22 AM
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It wasn’t an observation it was bigotry. My points are accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:12 AM
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It’s not about splitting the bill. It’s the bitter attitude that comes with splitting the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:12 AM
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It’s incredibly cruel to string a woman along and yes he strung her along. Men radicalize women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:11 AM
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Stringing a woman along for a year is cruel and unacceptable. You justifying it and making excuses for it is but an example of proof of male cruelty. Men radicalize women into misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:11 AM
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No men inflict deep psychological and emotional harm. Here you are justifying stringing a woman along for a year. You were quite passionate in this debate. Why do men gaslight women about male cruelty? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:58 AM
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It’s not my algorithm. ​Here you are justifying and making excuses for a guy who strung along a woman for a year. It’s a cruel and horrible thing to do, and you made excuses for it. Men radicalize women. Stop gaslighting and saying that men don’t hate women. Why do you argue as if it’s a niche population when you also engage in hate for women? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:57 AM
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It’s not my algorithm. https://preview.redd.it/0p0ep2dnmvgh1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47fce4579e9d64029b6f77016b7eb33da08f4aa1 Here you are justifying and making excuses for a guy who strung along a woman for a year. It’s a cruel and horrible thing to do, and you made excuses for it. Men radicalize women. Stop gaslighting and saying that men don’t hate women. Why do you argue as if it’s a niche population when you also engage in hate for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:57 AM
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Men are more cruel with more frequency. It’s a simple observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:53 AM
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It’s a simple observation. Men are more cruel and more harsh and meaner than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:53 AM
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How are my observations bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:52 AM
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It’s all over social media. I didn’t say it’s the vast majority of men either. I said that men are more cruel with more frequency and more magnitude than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:52 AM
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<image> See??? Even you are cruel to women!!! Why do men constantly try to gaslight us that they aren’t cruel to women!??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:44 AM
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Meanwhile men speak this way to female SA victims. <image> This is how men treat ugly women who have been through SA. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOAdUKIjLJC/ Men radicalize women. Men are especially cruel to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:37 AM
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It’s not just on Reddit. It’s all over all social media. Hating women is mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:35 AM
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Yes. Women tell each other to do that. I have decided not to because I want to filter out the prostitute type men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:35 AM
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We don’t initiate sex because we aren’t perverted the way men are and we don’t desire sex 24/7 the way men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:34 AM
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When women approach they get used for casual sex. Especially by vindictive men and men who think these women are beneath them. See pic related. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:33 AM
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Do you not understand that if we go up to the guy and flirt with him, he may decide to ask us out instead? Most of the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:32 AM
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Why don’t men clean the house?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:32 AM
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So why don’t men clean the house?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:31 AM
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I presented to you valid criticisms of the male gender and you took offense to that and retaliated by telling me that I should become a lesbian or asexual. You don’t have any good reasons why women should approach men and be “50/50” and took offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:27 AM
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Considering that you agreed with me with all the stuff I said about men, maybe that’s why women aren’t doing “50/50”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:26 AM
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See? Men radicalize women into misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:24 AM
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Even for casual sex and casual dating, women still want the guy to give them attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:24 AM
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The vast majority of women don’t. Men do speak this way about women, daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:22 AM
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How are we supposed to know that a stranger online is a safe choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:18 AM
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Well also they are strangers from the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:17 AM
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For woman 1, she has no way of knowing if you were lying or not. And even if you weren’t (I know you weren’t lying), she may be concerned about compatibility if you have a job that makes you unavailable. That’s okay it’s just life. Edit: I realized that what you meant was that she was ready for casual sex. She just found someone else to have casual sex with. No biggie. She wanted sex that weekend and she got it. For the second woman, she just wasn’t that into you. Maybe she got busy with her kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:16 AM
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Women don’t speak with the level of disrespect that men do about women. OP’s post is like a daily topic here and the way he speaks is a daily way men speak about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:06 AM
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Men describe being a loving boyfriend/ partner as being deeply humiliating unto them. Men are the ones radicalizing women into misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:05 AM
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Attention is necessary for any relationship. Imagine resenting that your partner wants you to pay attention to her and admire her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:04 AM
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No it doesn’t. Women don’t radicalize women into misandry. Men do. Men are misandrists and lead women into misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:03 AM
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Men radicalize women into misandry. You straight up describe dating as a form of prostitution and you describe men as viewing women as so desperate for food that they use men for food. Again, it isn’t radical feminism radicalizing women into misandry. It’s men radicalizing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:03 AM
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Because sexuality isn’t a choice and women settle for crappy men due to desperation. Men aren’t into women. Men radicalize women into misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:49 AM
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Men get resentful about paying for the first date and being a nice and kind partner. Men radicalize women into misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:48 AM
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Notice how you didn’t deny anything I said? You don’t disagree that male nature is corrupt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:12 AM
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So you gave her second best treatment. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:12 AM
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That sucks. You gave your best self and effort to Stacy and now you’re beta buxxing the good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:48 PM
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The stuff here is wayyyyyyyyy worse than two x. Hands down. Most shelter beds are for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:47 PM
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See how bitter you men are??? Why would we want to approach you???? It’s better to just let men do the work. It’s a very simple filter to get rid of the trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 09:47 PM
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Whoops. My bad. It doesn’t change what I said. I found proof of you hating women too. I am not sure why men are so passionate about insisting they don’t hate us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:38 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/m7qll6s0rtgh1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14e894443c20b6e224a2c6d081cca6618baf77eb But it doesn’t take much to see that even you hate women. Why do you keep arguing that men don’t hate women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:37 PM
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Whoops. My bad. It doesn’t change that it’s what men say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:35 PM
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No they are dramatically less hateful
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:34 PM
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Yes I have made a thread about this and the overall consensus was “we don’t owe you a relationship” and “you didn’t ask if we are going to get married so it’s ok if we string you along”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:04 PM
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Pick women who are better. Maybe you would feel less exhausted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:01 PM
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They are only going to manipulate me is a very legitimate argument. Look how disparaging, disrespectful, and cruel men are when women who they aren’t attracted to approach them. <image> Men don’t simply say “no” the way women do. Men actively use these women for sex and discard them. “So pick an ugly guy”. This guy is literally ugly and old (he has posted pics. I removed his identity) and he is poor and he has an ego like this. Men abusing and using women is a very real and legitimate reason to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:56 PM
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Yon did lmfao. <image> 🥱
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:47 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/m4mgdgzd7tgh1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26b9c1296e969e4bf84abfa88ee42334ff0431ac I already did. Men lack accountability 🥱 Always proving me correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:47 PM
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You straight up say “SINGLE MOMS ARE SIMPLY RECEIVING THE SAME TREATMENT THEY GAVE THOSE MEN” Men insult single moms who are just existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:54 PM
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Claiming women who are mistreated chase men who see them as holes Claiming single moms shit on men and therefore deserve to be degraded by men There is nothing new under the sun. I don’t know why men are so defensive when women make legitimate complaints about their gender. Men can’t take criticism about their own gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:53 PM
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No you straight up say single moms mistreat men so when men shit on single moms, they deserve it. That isn’t a simple disagreement. Thats straight up hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:16 PM
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You exhibit exactly the behaviors that I say men engage in. Nothing you are arguing is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:16 PM
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Including you. You are hateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:10 PM
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You literally just said that single moms receive the treatment they give men. About men insulting random single moms. Omg you are as hateful as I said men are. I am not sure why you’re so defensive and upset when you display the same behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:07 PM
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Women aren’t nearly as hateful as men are. And see? Even you degrade single moms. Why are you even trying to argue with me!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:05 PM
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“Not all men” just a ton of them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:04 PM
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Her anger is justified. She isn’t being cruel or a bully. She’s just calling men out. She isn’t radicalizing women. She’s just pointing out male behavior. Men are the ones behaving badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:47 PM
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Men know not to say this stuff out loud because it’s so cruel. It doesn’t mean they privately don’t think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:45 PM
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⁠They do. Just not with the women they want. ⁠Not only do they not like it, but they call these women gold diggers and claim women massively want to use them for food. ⁠It’s not a minority. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZQqgH4Jc3z/ ⁠The woman who you bullied for being used for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:45 PM
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The single dad would try to find a girlfriend and then dump the childcare onto her. Or they would make their mom (the kids dad) do the labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:33 PM
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She isn’t basing her whole personality on it. She’s basing her Instagram account on it. https://www.np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/vEcA8ZxfgO See how bitter the men are? Men. Radicalize. Women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:30 PM
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Because anger is a natural response. That guy threw a tantrum and claimed to be a victim because the lady he was set up on a “blind photoshoot” with didn’t look like a model. Any woman would be angry. Be fucking for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:24 PM
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Because nerdy men don’t. Nerdy men come here and throw massive temper tantrums about hypergamy but then behave like this guy. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DaFAgORyfr1/ To men, it is. Look at any debate about paying for first dates. The men get incredibly angry about cost. A tiny minority of women degrade short men. Meanwhile, this is how men treat ugly women who have been through SA. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOAdUKIjLJC/ Men radicalize women. Men are especially cruel to women. <image> Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:21 PM
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Yes. As I said When women get abused or mistreated, men blame her and taunt her and bully her and shame her for not picking an unattractive man. Men radicalize women. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DaFAgORyfr1/ This is how men behave. Men. Radicalize. Women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:17 PM
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Because women don’t systematically shit on single dads or claim that men who have been abused are “alpha widows”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:11 PM
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Men are the ones who tell women that men are shallow and that women should only date ugly men to be treated well. Men who are resentful and weird about paying for first dates are not good men. Women do not degrade short men to the extent and frequency and level that men degrade short women. Even you taunt women, as you are doing here. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:03 PM
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<image> Even you hate women. Men radicalize women. I am so sick of men gaslighting us and insisting that they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:59 PM
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You’re grossly oversimplifying what these men say. ⁠Men talk about how men are naturally inclined towards polygyny and that the only thing keeping men loyal is not virtue, but the lack of options. Men constantly tell women that if they want to avoid being cheated on, to simply pick an unattractive man. Because attractive men will cheat. ⁠Men talk about how they expect sex early and fast, especially if the woman has had sex fast before because of “muh raw animal passion”. ⁠Men simply not prefer s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:43 AM
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This guy claims to be a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:32 PM
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Men just can’t handle criticism without playing victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 07:09 PM
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Most men cannot. “CoNfIrMaTiOn BiAs”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 07:08 PM
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No it’s men radicalizing women. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 07:05 PM
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You literally posted a comment that said that women should get therapy and get blamed and need empathy for not feeling a spark on the first date. Lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 07:02 PM
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The men here are living proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:15 PM
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Ok see how defensive you are? This is why women don’t have a high view of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:14 PM
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You should not be verbally abusive to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:13 PM
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I don’t think it’s justice. I think that the men here grossly overestimate how good they are. Most of the men here engage in verbal abuse and demonstrably a deep hate for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:40 PM
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Most young women have a negative opinion of men because we go online and read men saying: Men are not loyal. Men are polygynous by nature. The only thing keeping men loyal is if they aren’t attractive enough to have other options. Not love. Not virtue. Not loyalty. Men aren’t kind. Men are cruel by nature. The only thing stopping men from being cruel to their wives/ girlfriends is if they aren’t attractive enough to find someone else if she leaves. Not love. Not character. Nor loyalty. Men get r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:31 PM
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A generalization doesn’t mean “every single individual person”. It means most. Perhaps you aren’t verbally abusive and cruel. Perhaps the verbal abuse and personal attack you spouted was just a one-off situation. Who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:19 PM
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Not really. Just a few minutes here proves me correct, every single time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:11 PM
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Based on their behavior. Everything they say is public here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:10 PM
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You spent like 50 comments insisting that men are victims based on that shitty article about a Reddit thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:08 PM
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See? No reply but to make a personal attack. I didn’t attack you personally, but you attacked me personally. I rest my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:07 PM
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Not your business. No shitposting or making things personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:33 PM
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Men predominantly play victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:33 PM
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They were discriminated and bigots.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:07 PM
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The men here are playing victim. The article was based on a Reddit post and Reddit comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:07 PM
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I am responding to the men here. Rule 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:06 PM
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In subs here and in subs like this one, the men are incredibly bitter, covert narcissistic, angry, mean spirited, vindictive, etc. They aren’t good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:48 PM
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I understand they are caricatures, but they are examples of how unhinged and unpleasant the guys here. Men on ppd and angry man forums have the attitude displayed in the caricature.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:47 PM
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I repeatedly say “men here”. Not “all men”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:53 AM
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The men here don’t even do the bare minimum. Most of them haven’t approached a woman outside of dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:52 AM
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“Saints” and it’s a group of guys with porn addictions and anger issues who constantly are going “well akshually…” and constantly describing men (their own gender!) as sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:27 AM
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I understand. These guys aren’t good though. They just are covertly toxic. The guys here are like this: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DaQr47GN547/ Or like this: https://youtube.com/shorts/KSGTbN\_L07g These guys are a pain in the ass to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:26 AM
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My argument is most of the men here think they are not abusive and think they are good people. But the reality is that they are vindictive, bitter, cruel, vicious, snarky, hypergamous, excessively picky, and angry people. They believe that because they are timid and meek in public, not super convention attractive, and possibly are on the spectrum that this somehow translates into goodness. The reality is that they are just a different flavor of abuse. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZtklUsMvir/ …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:16 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DaQr47GN547/ Most of the guys here are like this. They just are quieter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:09 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DaQr47GN547/ Most of the men here behave like this guy. They are toxic, but less overtly toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:08 AM
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Most of the men here think they aren’t bad guys but are truly terrible people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:05 AM
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https://youtu.be/i4VMM7Cc42w Most of the men here are some version of this guy and shit on women and are a pain to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:05 AM
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Most of the men here aren’t moral at all. They think “I am a good man, why don’t women like me?” But the reality is that they aren’t good men. They are vindictive and bitter men. They are cruel men, and they paint their own gender as sociopaths. They only think they are good because they are timid and don’t hit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:00 AM
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It proves that the article was dumb and the men playing victim because of the article are ignorant and foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:58 PM
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Discrimination against bigotry is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:58 PM
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https://www.np.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/s/jrKtH6lahu And here’s the reddit post that the bogus article was based on. No one says their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:26 PM
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Women don’t stop growth. The bad part is their bigotry. That they think women stop growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:22 PM
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They needed the MONEY. Girl Scouts sell famous cookies. Boy Scouts sell popcorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:18 PM
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Gals are persona non grata at Bali Time Chamber, a mountaintop retreat in northern Indonesia, catering exclusively to men “looking to level up in their life.” It’s a gender-based ban reportedly predicated on the belief that females simply “don’t let people grow,” according to the controversial getaway’s viral vids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:17 PM
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They literally said that women don’t let people grow and they are Australian. They aren’t Indonesian.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:06 PM
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Boy Scouts had child molestation and needed more members.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:05 PM
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There’s a spectrum between aloof and showering with attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:18 PM
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Notice that you didn’t disagree with anything I said?? You still expect the woman to work and you don’t share finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:24 PM
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This sounds like men are sociopaths and give and withdraw attention rather than just standing to the side. Men always like to paint themselves in a horrible light.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:24 PM
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Yes in real life most women don’t pursue a man who is showing no interest. The exceptionally handsome man is exceptionally handsome. Most men are not uniquely handsome outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:21 PM
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And as I repeatedly said, women don’t give a shit about men’s groups. We just get mad when men use it as an opportunity to shit on women. For example, if your men’s cancer organization is teaching men to SA women, then women will get mad about that. Not about how men are meeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:20 PM
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Loaded question in a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:18 PM
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Just because a man is willing to accept a woman who makes less than him, doesn’t mean he doesn’t expect her to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:18 PM
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Most men cannot afford a stay at home mom/ housewife. Just because a man is willing to accept a woman of a low income, it doesn’t mean he is okay with no income. And if a woman does happen to be a housewife/ stay at home mom, men don’t view the assets earned while married as shared.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:17 PM
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The one in the article that OP linked isn’t a group of men just going to the mountains for fun. They literally said women don’t let people grow, and the article was based on reddit comments on a Reddit post. Nowhere did I say that men are bad for doing a wilderness retreat. As I said, men are always trying to come up with ways to play victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:16 PM
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Thank you!!! Men don’t like accountability!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:15 PM
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See? Men defend and minimize sexual assault and coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:03 PM
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Boy Scouts isn’t removed. It exists. It’s just called “scouts”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:26 PM
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And my claim is that you’re making excuses for bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:26 PM
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Whataboutism. This is a group of “alpha males” who have an “alpha male bootcamp” which is cringe in it of itself. Then they are running around saying women stop growth. There is no meme of “femcel bootcamp”. Women aren’t gathering to shit on women. If this was like a “men’s retreat” with no mention of how bad women are, no one would care. And the article is based on reddit comments. Not IRL interviews. The guy doesn’t even confirm that all the users who wrote the comments in the thread are women…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:23 PM
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Only in the male imagination. In real life, if a woman thinks a man isn’t interested or that he doesn’t notice her, she either won’t notice him at all or will assume he’s disinterested and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:20 PM
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Thank you!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:18 PM
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I was on topic. OP’s post was about men saying that women “stop people’s growth” and doing alpha male boot camp. His article was based on Reddit comments and not any real people. The article he linked used Reddit comments roasting an alpha male boot camp that says women dont let people grow as a way to portray men as victims. Multiple men, including you, used the shitty article as proof that men are victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:17 PM
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“Scouts” exist because Girl Scouts usually doesn’t have a major emphasis on outdoor survival skills or camping.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:15 PM
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Your question was “and this is not true because?” It’s not true. Women are not stopping people from growing. Thats a vicious claim to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:14 PM
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There are plenty of male spaces. Op posted a space where men shat on women and wanted to be alpha males.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:21 AM
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She doesn’t associate video games with rape. She says men deny sexual assault when it’s sexual assault. And she’s right. So many men think lying isn’t sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:20 AM
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Stop your silly lies. It’s bigotry to say that an entire gender doesn’t allow for personal growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:19 AM
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Stop self victimizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:18 AM
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You replied to me on my comment. Perhaps reply to them instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:00 AM
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Where did I talk about rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:48 AM
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Then don’t answer. You don’t have to announce your departure. You don’t have a manual labor job yet want women to thank you for other men’s manual labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:45 AM
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See? So the issue isn’t that women are mad about a men’s only space. The issue is that men shat on women and women responded. And men called it misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:27 AM
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They don’t cook at home. Despite you whining that women are terrible cooks, women do the cooking and cleaning at home. Your mom wasn’t a good cook, and you use that to compare women to Nazis. Men hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:26 AM
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> cherry picked These are how men talk every day. Men are not into women. Men are cruel to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:25 AM
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I am saying the worst outcome is to coerce or rape someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:00 AM
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Because that’s the premise of OP’s post. If you aren’t excusing being manipulative, toxic, petty, and cruel, then you are admitting that the worst outcome isn’t not having sex (which you brazenly compare to homelessness and starvation). You admit that the worse possible outcome is that you coerce and hurt someone else. The worse possible outcome is being a diabolical person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:43 AM
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https://www.scouting.org We do still have it. It just includes girls now because girls wanted to go camping too. Men are always looking to self-victimize.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:41 AM
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Men don’t do cooking and cleaning. They don’t. Women work just as hard then maintain the home. Men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:21 AM
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I don’t give a fuck what Maslow says. You can mastrubate. Sex isn’t a need. Men need to stop victimizing themselves and trying to coerce women with threats of self harm and accusing women of denying them their basic needs. There is no excuse for being manipulative, toxic, coercive, petty, or cruel towards women. “well if I don’t be coercive and manipulative and petty and cruel I won’t get sex and I will be like a starving dog or homeless person” is actually a horrific thing to say and a horrific…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:17 AM
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And I am focusing on both my topic and OP’s post. OP’s article is also based on women’s Reddit comments and not any irl interviews of women. Furthermore, ON A COMPLETELY UNRELATED TOPI, it is hard to see men as human when men go online and: passionately defend stringing a woman along for sexual access under the guise of “well she never asked me if this relationship was serious or not”, Make posts about how sugar babies charge too much money and are too picky (when they are sex workers and can ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:15 AM
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Housing is a basic need. Sex isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:31 AM
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No, now nursing is mostly women. Most dental and medical students are women. Women are professionals. Women are outshining men and keeping the house clean and cooking and not demanding random men thank them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:31 AM
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Changing the subject. OP’s post was bad faith and the men there were attacking women. It wasn’t like a men’s prayer group or a men’s hiking club.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:30 AM
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Did you even read the article? These men say women don’t let people grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:12 AM
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<image> Because they are posting shit like this and claiming to be alpha only. They straight up say women don’t let people grow. There are tons of mens groups. Women don’t care if you have a mens group. It’s bad faith to play victim when a group of men collectively shit on women and women respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:44 AM
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YOU ARENT EVEN BUILDING THEM. NURSES ARE MOSTLY WOMEN. DOCTORS ARE MOSTLY WOMEN. DENTISTS ARE MOSTLY WOMEN. ALL OF THESE PROFESSIONS ARE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT WORK.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:04 PM
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Because: Not having sex isn’t terrible. Not having sex is still an acceptable outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:20 PM
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Men are not more open to different sexual identities. They just want threesomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:09 PM
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Men are lazier. Most men aren’t construction workers who come home and cook dinner and vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:09 PM
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Because that is why men are more accepting of bi women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:10 PM
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I don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:08 PM
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Ok so you do jobs that women also do and work hard at but then you want women to pander to you and other random men to thank male construction workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:08 PM
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Oh that’s because it’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:02 PM
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It’s true though. Men like variety. Men would love to have a threesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:02 PM
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His isn’t an excuse to coerce and pester and harass women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:57 PM
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Women are construction workers too, and women work multiple jobs. Please tell me what sort of career path you are on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:55 PM
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I am saying that it isn’t projection to say men want threesomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:54 PM
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I don’t see where I said it’s selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:53 PM
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It’s the premise of this thread. Don’t coerce.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:03 PM
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No it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:02 PM
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Proof that men are less lazy? Because they aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:58 PM
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It’s the implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:55 PM
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It’s not possible to empathize. Sexual coercion is always wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:52 PM
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No. Men discriminate against women over 25 and women who are fat and women who are western all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:52 PM
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It’s disgusting to use male suicide as a form of sexual coercion. Those men need mental healthcare, not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:51 PM
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Because you’re describing an exceptional situation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:44 PM
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I can’t link here because linking is not allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:43 PM
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If you have no emotions you wouldn’t be concerning yourself with a debate about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:43 PM
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It’s not thought policing to want your sec partner to find you attractive and not “uggo”. Good God.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:42 PM
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It’s not progressive to enter relationships with a bisexual person with the hopes of having threesomes but I am glad men admit that this is the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:25 PM
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They would be willing because they want threesomes and aren’t threatened by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:24 PM
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Because men want threesomes and don’t view other women as a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:19 PM
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Not having sex is not terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:36 AM
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Being young AND thin. Thats not most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:35 AM
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“Not all men” “If a guy lies to you more than once then it’s your fault”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:33 AM
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Yeah but a starving dog is a distressing and terrible outcome no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:21 PM
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Instead of starvation, compare it to a dog sleeping on the bed. Some dogs sleep on the bed next to their owners. Other dogs aren’t even allowed in the owner’s bedroom. Many dogs may want to sleep next to their owners in bed. But they have to sleep in a dog bed in the hallway instead. The dog may be kind of sad/ disappointed. But the dog isn’t going to suffer greatly as a result. Capiche?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:21 PM
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Yes it is. You are pro sexual coercion and make up strawmen to justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:26 PM
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“Men are evil liars but it’s women’s fault for believing them”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:19 PM
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Moving the goalposts. Not telling someone that you find them “uggo” isn’t the same thing as wearing mascara or a nice shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:06 PM
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Not to men. The older a woman is, the less attractive she is to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:57 AM
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Tricking you into having sex by lying to you or promising you things that weren’t true “I’m not going to tell her I think she is an uggo!”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:55 AM
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https://www.webmd.com/sex/what-is-sexual-coercion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:49 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-mysteries-love/201712/rape-deception
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:03 PM
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I already told you that lying is coercion. You’re so protective of coercive behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:58 PM
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Top 1% of all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:56 PM
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It’s hypergamy because she’s in the top 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:59 PM
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It’s coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:45 PM
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It’s sexual coercion if he thinks she is ugly and doesn’t tell her because he wants sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:43 PM
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I agree but unfortunately a lot of men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:33 PM
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That’s the parallel you drew.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:33 PM
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Yes. “I don’t find you uggo” is a false promise. Not telling her you don’t take her seriously when you know that she wants a relationship is a false promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:29 PM
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Not wanting to be called an uggo isn’t the same thing as wanting a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:28 PM
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I wasn’t throwing out accusations either. I was throwing out truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:27 PM
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Since you are so eager to blame the “Uggos” who get used for not asking the right question.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:22 PM
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I posted the definition and it does. I already linked it. Coercion includes lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:21 PM
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Nope. I don’t think the accusation is false. I think men are diabolical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:21 PM
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I think most men generally dislike most women and hold them to contempt. Most men know not to say this out loud in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:08 AM
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See? You went from mental gymnastics to admitting that MGTOW is just a bigotry movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:36 AM
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Nothing. You can’t fawn to bigots.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:38 AM
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No. I didn’t say they should accept. I am saying she’s a prime woman. Then not wanting her is just hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:38 AM
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I understand. You have excuses for why men hate women. They still hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:03 AM
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Because college aged women are prime women. All the men around them aren’t prime because a man’s prime isn’t based on his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:03 AM
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I don’t say my choice isn’t influenced by that. I am saying that it’s a foolish thing to get upset about. Shyness looks like disinterest or indifference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:49 PM
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This doesn’t negate a word I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:48 PM
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Men consistently complain about how fat, ugly, and old women are. Women can fall in love over time. Men can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:28 PM
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But if he is showing zero interest in me, why would I? I’ll pick someone who I am organically interested in. Not a random person. Your bio says “no overweight or flat chested women”. Is an overweight or flat chested woman supposed to assume you like her when you show the same disinterest in her as you show the woman you actually like?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:28 PM
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TRUTH. Men consistently complain about how far and ugly and old western women are
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:27 PM
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Listen. You’re coming here and making a post asking why a guy who was consistent, invested, present, checking in, listening, spending time with them, and gradually becoming part of their everyday life got chosen over you, a guy who was shy and standing to the side and doing nothing. Of course the guy who is consistently showing effort and talking to the girl and is very obviously interested and invested will get chosen over the guy who shows no interest at all. Women cannot read minds. Shyness r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:26 PM
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<image> Here’s how your fellow man describes women. Using his words, there are no good apples, jimbo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:30 PM
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Do you truly think humanity will die out? Like we will always have humans unless there is some sort of end times/ apocalyptic event or series of events.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:05 AM
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Most men don’t. Men freely give their attention to young and beautiful women. They don’t freely give their attention to anyone else. Tinder swipes and being used as a hole by strangers on the internet isn’t validation nor love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:04 AM
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No personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:03 AM
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So you admit that they hate women and wrote an entire essay of excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:02 AM
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Everyone wants college age women. So if men only want young women, why should we limit ourselves to a college campus?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:58 AM
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Here experience isn’t a vacuum either. Old men want college aged women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:12 PM
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What an odd answer. You can just not date the women who make you wait instead of playing games and waiting to seemingly punish them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:05 PM
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Rule 1 of the forum?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:51 PM
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Men are problematic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:14 PM
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Men are the ones who ridicule and coerce women into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:13 PM
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😂 how are you supposed to know if the guy is just pretending to be disinterested or if he actually is?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:13 PM
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It’s much more likely that the guy is interested when he shows interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:31 PM
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Most of the time, if he isn’t showing interest he isn’t interested
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:33 PM
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Going with a guy who has shown no interest is not a way to prevent that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:33 PM
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Yes that’s why women should expect the man to pay and wait an extended period of time for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:26 PM
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You literally say he’s consistent, checking in regularly, spending time with her, and listening. That is how you act when you’re into someone. Meanwhile you didn’t talk to her at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:26 PM
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Most men don’t wait and then the lady is forced to enjoy her cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:25 PM
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And she didn’t have casual sex with that dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:18 PM
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There’s a guy here who is mad that a woman he showed zero interest in chose a guy who consistently showed interest in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:18 PM
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By would I want to talk to a guy who is not indicating interest in me? Usually he simply isn’t interested. Why push it? Because he mays secretly have a crush? There is another guy right there who obviously is into me and takes me seriously. I choose him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:17 PM
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No it doesn’t. Showing effort isn’t showing casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:42 PM
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It’s a deeper problem. Men taunt women with loneliness and constantly tell women how worthless they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:42 PM
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Showing that you care, being present, and being consistent are basic relationship requirements and values. Aloofness looks like disinterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:34 PM
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Men choose women who don’t like them very much based on appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:33 PM
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What a bizarre answer. He showed that he liked her. He showed that he cared. Shyness and reservation look like disinterest. Consistently showing up shows you care because you consistently see them. Checking in shows that you care. Spending time with someone is a basic requirement. Gradually becoming a part of their life is a basic relationship flow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:33 PM
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Women don’t pick for appearance. Women pick for character. Most women don’t care about clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:57 PM
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Then men call you a misandrist. And say “enjoy your cats”. And, like youx if non virgin women stop having sex, you call them “whores”. Men insult women who wait and insult women who don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:48 PM
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Nope. We look for character. Not appearance. Men just look at appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:47 PM
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Those guys are still degenerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:55 PM
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Yeah they are “not respecting” sex work by being too demanding. But they can just be too demanding. If they don’t get any customers, then that’s their problem to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:52 PM
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No men deceive more than women. Women can be honest and still get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:51 PM
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Using women for sex and stringing them along is one example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:51 PM
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College isn’t the only place that exists in the world. If op wanted to exclusively focus on college campuses and people ages 18-25, then he should have said so. The average age is pushing 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:50 PM
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Nope. Because we have stronger morals and we risk pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:49 PM
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You are delusional if you think “anti-feminism Australia” and all the hundreds of thousands of men that enthusiastically support that account and their posts and all the men’s accounts supporting it and the account itself are all run by a giant conspiracy of women. Furthermore, you claim the movement is infiltrated by women: that means you’re still female-centered and still thinking about women. Men hate women. Men want revenge on women for sexual rejection. https://youtu.be/hRGXfIv30EE https://…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:49 PM
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That’s because 3 months is nothing. There’s another guy here calling women whores for having premarital sex. Men are ridiculous and expect sex quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:48 AM
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These guys weren’t college students. One was like 50, one was like 30 and obese, and one was maybe 25 and schizophrenic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:48 AM
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Because these guys were like bottom of the barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:13 AM
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<image> Top X post when you look up MGTOW. cool shit, hanging out, advice…. BS. The space is just shitting on women. “anti feminism Australia”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:38 AM
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No MGTOW doesn’t. I have been on numerous MGTOW forums over the years and the focus is shitting on women. First thing you see when you look up “MGTOW” on X. Cool shit and hanging out pfft bullshit. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:36 AM
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Men aren’t even held accountable for their own actions. Men support each other in degeneracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:35 AM
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Men are more diabolical than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:34 AM
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Your post indicated that you pay for sex workers (sugar babies). And you’re super naive or something because it’s a messy business and the women aren’t seeking men on a quest for true love.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:34 AM
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Most men are adequately attractive to have a relationship and marriage with. Just because we aren’t willing to sleep with complete strangers doesn’t mean those men don’t pass the acceptable threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:32 AM
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That doesn’t matter. Your gender conditioned women to be mistreated. Hold men accountable for men’s actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:35 AM
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Especially in sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:59 AM
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Multiple men have said that men don’t owe women commitment. I have an entire thread where men insisted that it’s entitled and demanding to say “I am looking for marriage” on the first date. One guy said that good men find women who say “I am looking for a man to one day marry” creepy and entitled. Another man said that it’s transactional and said women are gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:46 AM
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Ok but nobody is exactly an upstanding member of society in this dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:44 AM
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It a woman approaches, then men will hold her to contempt. And “men don’t owe women commitment”, remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:15 AM
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It doesn’t matter if the sex worker is unreasonable. She can charge whatever she wants. The market will decide if she gets paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:14 AM
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See? Women should not approach men. And no, women don’t think that these men think this way about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:37 AM
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It’s only common knowledge between men. Women are not as picky as men are. Men project their own pickiness onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:36 AM
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You made an entire post on it. Bro. And it’s not harassment. If you don’t like that I say it, then don’t answer. Replying indicates a wish to continue the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:35 AM
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They are unattractive and they still have major egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:59 PM
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Ok so then women shouldn’t approach. Glad we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:57 PM
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Sexual assault isn’t just grabbing a woman behind the bush and raping her. He could have slapped her butt or tried to kiss her or something without her consent. Thats still assault even though it isn’t highly traumatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:57 PM
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Men will blame you and say that these men are probably incredibly hot which is why all that shitty stuff happened to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:54 PM
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You get offended that sugar babies charge a price that is too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:53 PM
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Nope. I have seen some of the men who post here with that mindset and they are not attractive. Furthermore, thank you for proving women shouldn’t approach. Men will shame her for not picking an unattractive man to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:53 PM
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No I have seen some of the guys who post here about being approached and holding the women to contempt and they are not chads at all. They are quite unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:52 PM
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We had an entire post yesterday about a guy who said that men should use “Uggos” for casual sex so that they have an abundance mentality and can get their sexual urges met. A self-proclaimed 7/10 said he uses women who are a 4-6 for casual sex because he believes these women are beneath him. The overall sentiment of these men was “we don’t owe women honesty. We don’t need to tell them we think they are uggos”. Another guy was a passport bro who claimed that he would go to SEA and women would thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:46 PM
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Men: “most men are good” Also men: “nobody owes you basic respect” Men are diabolical. Based on what men say. About men. In men’s spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:31 PM
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<image> Example 1. “Only a small portion of men do this”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:23 PM
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No you just don’t like the popular view.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:22 PM
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She would likely not want sex anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:22 PM
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Yeah if my husband felt that women were playing games it would deeply impact my marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:27 PM
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Sugar baby is a sex worker. A sugar baby is not an opportunistic romantic partner or a romance scammer. He’s literally going to sugar baby apps and paying for sex, attention, or companionship. That is sex work. They both know it’s a sugar baby partnership. The third world person trying to get a green card isn’t a sugar baby. They are opportunists/ romance scammer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:24 PM
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Most women don’t appreciate being degraded, monolith or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:57 PM
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That sounds like a shitty sense of humor. I wonder why men insist most of them are good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:07 AM
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No it isn’t. You guys tell women to pick better men, then have a temper tantrum when women take the steps to pick better men. Dating isn’t about “vibes and sex”. Dating is about finding a spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:06 AM
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All sex work is dangerous and a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:05 AM
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It doesn’t matter. We aren’t here for fun, we are here to look for a life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:04 AM
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Why would a woman say “do you find me uggo” to a man???
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:04 AM
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It’s manipulation and lying. Coercion. I am sorry the definition makes your posts look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:03 AM
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I don’t care. You literally described yourself as using “Uggos” to have an abundance mentality and get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:03 AM
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Because women don’t expect things to go that way. It’s pretty obvious and it shouldn’t be a head scratcher. Instead of getting weird and defensive when women say men are diabolical, men should concede and encourage women to take their lives into their own hands. Instead of taunting the “strong independent woman who don’t need no man” and “boss babes” and “career women”, men should celebrate women liberating themselves from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:02 AM
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Why would she think to ask such a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:50 PM
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It’s a false pretense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:50 PM
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Yeah that is why I say men are diabolical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:49 PM
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Does she know you view her as a practice woman and an uggo?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:43 PM
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No. It actually reflects that women understand that oppressive relationships suck and financially depending on a man is painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:42 PM
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You don’t tell these women that you view them as practice women and Uggos and ways to feel powerful in your other relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:42 PM
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No sex where you view the woman as an uggo and practice woman so that you can feel powerful in other relationships is horrible
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:41 PM
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Lying by omission is lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:37 PM
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Yes because you admit in your post that you view your sex partners as “Uggos” and that you string them along. You know if you are honest that you will lose access to pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:37 PM
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I’m not saying the women shouldn’t wait. I am saying that the situation you describe is horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:35 PM
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The only people who get upset when a woman says “I am looking for marriage” are men who know that this means they aren’t going to pound anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:34 PM
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He isn’t agreeing to marry me. He’s agreeing that he’s looking for the same thing. Strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:34 PM
1

Asking about that stuff doesn’t make it less fun or low pressure. It’s just an ick to men who want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:33 PM
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Lying about your intentions, lying that you find someone to be an “uggo”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:33 PM
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It’s unbelievable that you think that people don’t do this. Every guy I have ever dated has asked me “what are you looking for” and something along the lines of “what is your timeline for marriage and children?” If someone doesn’t ask this, I question their motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:21 PM
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You do say that. “What are you looking for?” Is a very standard and typical first date question. It’s not autistic to say that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:17 PM
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Even if you do not agree, you should still check in and communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:17 PM
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You called her creepy. That is what creepy is. Dating isn’t a joke. You don’t just sleep with women and spend time with them without intending to get to know them for something deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:38 PM
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You said that good men get creeped out when a woman says “I am looking for a long term relationship that leads to marriage” on the first date. Thats a pretty horrible way to describe men. It describes them as simply looking for pussy and not much else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:37 PM
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Then be upfront that you view the women as Uggos and don’t plan to proceed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:37 PM
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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/sexual-coercion#vs-noncoercive-sex Lies: A person may use misinformation to coax someone to have sex with them. They may use myths about consent to convince someone they have no right to say no, make false promises, or tell them their demands or coercive behaviors are normal. Make false promises
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:34 PM
1

Most men expect their wives to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:28 PM
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Yikes. That sounds depraved. Good thing we women have internet and know men think this way without even leaving our homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:28 PM
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Op claims to be a 7 and he is bragging about smashing and dashing “uggo” women who are a 4-6.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:27 PM
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It’s only an ick to trashy men who want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:26 PM
1

That isn’t a straw man. That is exactly how you described the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:26 PM
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I mean you yourself say pretty bad stuff. I’m not sure why you’re so defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:25 PM
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You describe it as “creepy” to say “I am looking for a serious relationship that will lead to marriage” on a first date. You tell her that she’s too much and worthless. Men love to chip away at any boundaries or expectations women have. It’s to make pussy freely available.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:25 PM
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That isn’t a good man. Thats a trashy man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:24 PM
1

That isn’t prostitution. Men having this mentality is just a reflection of male depravity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:24 PM
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Lying by omission is lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:23 PM
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I think she would want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:23 PM
5

It constantly happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:36 PM
0

So you are trying to take revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:36 PM
2

By definition it is coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:36 PM
2

Based on what men say to women CONSTANTLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:36 PM
1

The point is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:35 PM
1

No that’s just a summary of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:27 PM
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Using “Uggos” for sex and coercing them by lying about your intentions is sociopath and cold and calculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:27 PM
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It isn’t a current prostitution exchange either because they have intermingled multiple other aspects of life together and cohabitate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:26 PM
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It’s coercion. Coercion isn’t rape to me, but to many the terms are interchangeable. And it’s still vile and foul and evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:25 PM
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It’s sexual coercion. And catcalling is sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:25 PM
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No men. Not red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:24 PM
1

Yeah because men like you gaslight her and tell her that she’s asking for too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:24 PM
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Then give your answer: man and woman are on a first date Man: what are you looking for? Woman: I am looking for a serious relationship that leads to marriage Enlighten me how the “good man” thinks about this answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:23 PM
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Do these women know you think this way about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:20 PM
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Men consider the bottom 80% of women to be uggos
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:18 PM
2

See? Men are sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:18 PM
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See? Men describe men as delusional sociopaths. Why should a mediocre looking woman be easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:17 PM
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You describe men as cold and calculating sociopaths then get mad when I say men are cold and calculating sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:16 PM
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You go to sex workers and recently made a post complaining that the prices are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:12 PM
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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/sexual-coercion Lying is sexual coercion
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:12 PM
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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/sexual-coercion Lying is sexual coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:11 PM
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Why do women need to give a reason for rejecting a man???
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:11 PM
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Didn’t you write a bunch of comments to me saying that women shouldn’t expect commitment or communicate a desire for it on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:09 PM
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You literally have an entire post saying men should use “uggos” for casual sex. Do these women know men call them “Uggos”? Your post proves me correct. Men are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:07 PM
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Does she know he calls her an uggo?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:05 PM
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And yet when I say this, I get called a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:05 PM
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If women say that they offer this, men will put them down and say it’s worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:03 PM
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I protect myself based on what men say online. For example you describe men as neurotic and bitter about a woman saying she wants to have a LTR that leads to marriage. You use this as a sort of justification for them stringing women along.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:58 PM
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Nope. If she realizes he isn’t husband material after getting to know him, instead of stringing him along, she leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:56 PM
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Yes. You describe them as uptight and overly anxious about basic communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:55 PM
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I don’t respect men for how they portray themselves online.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:50 PM
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No it isn’t. He’s auditioning. She can choose to reject him and say he’s not a good fit for the role.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:48 PM
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That’s exactly how you portray men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:47 PM
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No it’s not. Only men have a hard time distinctions because they don’t respect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:45 PM
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She isn’t saying she wants to the guy. At all. She is saying she’s looking for a husband. If he’s a shitty husband or loser or whatever, then obviously won’t want to see him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:44 PM
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No it’s not. At all. It’s not 2004. People talk about what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:32 PM
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Being economically dependent or wanting a guy to pay for your date isn’t wanting him for his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:31 PM
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Men do think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:31 PM
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It’s only okay if you’re both on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:30 PM
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How you portray men: Man joins the Townsville running club to meet a girlfriend. Every Saturday morning everyone meets downtown at a park and runs together. Man: “I must meet a girlfriend. I am going to ask out every woman I see in this running group” Man proceeds to jog next to every single woman he sees and ask her for her number. He does this without getting to know any of them or seeing if they match with each other. Woman: wow this guy seems kind of creepy. Why is he hitting on all of us? H…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:30 PM
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How you portray men: Woman: “I sure am happy in this relationship with this guy! I love him and hope to marry him one day!!!” Man: “how dare that stupid bitch think this way 😡 😡 😡 I just am going to keep her around for sex and attention. I have no intention of marrying her and I refuse to say anything. 😡 😡 😡”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:26 PM
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How you portray men and their thinking process: Man: “what are you looking for during this date” Woman: “I am looking for a long term relationship that leads to marriage” Man: “she must be planning to marry me, stupid bitch!!! 😡 😡 😡”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:22 PM
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Men think a SAHM is a gold digger. Men think paying for a date is a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:21 PM
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Nope. I agree that men think this way and since men created this market, men need to respect how women navigate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:20 PM
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It’s not inane and sociopathic. They are sex workers. If you want a genuine connection that isn’t about money, do regular dating. But one women you meet may not be at the caliber of hotness you desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:19 PM
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It’s not sociopathic nor inane. They are paying a sex worker. Even if she doesn’t have sex or send pornography, there is a sexual context. She is not a charity, a food pantry, or church. She isn’t obligated to charge prices based on wholesome values. The Johns she is seeing aren’t innocent, pure, lonely men just trying to get a woman to love. Usually they are also shitty and opportunistic. If she charges a certain price, her customers will dictate if the price is too high. If she has customers, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:17 PM
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I didn’t say she shouldn’t have asked. I am saying he was being shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:13 PM
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Not without getting married. Without an intention of getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:13 PM
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It is a pretty common reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:12 PM
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So it isn’t just Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:12 PM
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Yikes on bikes. I would rather lose men then have a relationship that goes nowhere with a man who doesn’t intend to marry me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:12 PM
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Yes. You literally have sit there and think: Would this man make a good husband? Would he make a good father? Is he responsible? Will he help me if I get sick? Will he treat me well? Does he have a temper? Is he respectful or not? Does he have any mental health issues? Is he bitter?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:11 PM
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Auditioning isn’t humiliation. Furthermore, this is how you portray men First date: Man: “Hello what are you looking for?” Woman: “I am looking for a relationship that leads to marriage within the next few years” Man: 😡”how dare you you greedy bitch! You are humiliating me!!! People like you are broken!!! This is repulsive!!! Automatic NOPE!!!! I am not desperate!!!!! No good man would want this!!!!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:10 PM
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Chads aren’t the only ones who do this. This forum is filled with self proclaimed unattractive and mid men who do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:38 PM
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It’s not desperate. If her prices are too high, she simply won’t get customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:37 PM
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It’s a fantasy because only a tiny portion of sex workers aren’t actually engaging in sex (intercourse, oral, etc). Most of them have to do sexual stuff to get the benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:24 PM
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In the beginning, yes. The person is a stranger or a friend who you’re trying to evaluate as a potential life partner. Self sacrifice and major life decisions and forgiving things only comes once after marriage or a serious LTR is established.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:17 PM
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You are auditioning for the role of life partner. Dating and marriage is not a joke. Stop trying to coerce women into casual sex to make pussy more readily available.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:15 PM
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Thank you I thought you were jumping in to put down women sorry 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:12 PM
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Men view them as such, not me nor women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:28 PM
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Those are normal and sensible questions to ask yourself when looking for a life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:27 PM
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These are normal and sensible questions to ask yourself when trying to select a potential life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:26 PM
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We have to think of ourselves, especially in the beginning stages of dating. Dating isn’t friendship where we can do acts of charity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:26 PM
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It’s a fantasy to assume most sex workers aren’t having sex or that these men are being strung along. If sex doesn’t happen within a certain time frame, these women usually get dropped and the John will look for someone else. Some Johns may just want a girlfriend experience and validation, and may be okay with no intercourse. That isn’t manipulation either. They both agree to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:24 PM
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It’s not scamming people to charge an extremely high price for sex work. The price is there. Yes, it is sex work even if they don’t have sex or it’s dressed up a certain way. The market will determine if she is going to get paid that much or not. That isn’t “self centered and narcissistic”. She is literally prostituting herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:22 PM
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Even if the price is extremely high, these are sex workers. Sex workers can charge whatever they want. The John Market will determine if they will get paid that much or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:21 PM
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Being used as a hole doesn’t mean that those men cherish you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:52 PM
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You’re delusional. Most men are happy with communication. I have had zero issues finding a relationship despite your essay denying that I would. If a woman has to dance around the topic of marriage and hide what she wants, then the guy is a major waste of time. Saying you’re looking for a husband isn’t pressuring anyone to get married. You have to realize these men are auditioning to be my husband and trying to prove they would make good husbands. No one is coercing them into marriage. Many men …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:48 PM
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Can you explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:47 PM
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No I am saying you describe a chubby woman as a glutton on the verge of death.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:47 PM
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Except for this guy was writing about how he was cruel and didn’t care and even portrayed himself as a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:46 PM
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Women do. Sex devalues us in the eyes of men. Any new partner should be grateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:45 PM
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No they don’t. Only the exceptionally hot women do, and those are the only women you notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:44 PM
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Except for all they talk about is women and how bad they think women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:43 PM
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Why do you call chubby women “terminal food addicts”????
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:04 PM
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Yes MGTOW is also revenge and it’s mainstream. Women know men hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:53 AM
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Again so now you are going DARVO and also defending him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:52 AM
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Guilt tripping women, telling women they are frigid, telling women that they are being unfair (guilt tripping) is coercion. Coercion isn’t force. Men sexually coerce women because devaluing these women will increase access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:52 AM
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You are bigoted against women even if you try to make excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:27 AM
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Many men here expressed a desire for revenge. Even you express revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:27 AM
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You denied any relevance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:27 AM
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Yes this is sexual coercion. Men like to say stuff like this to coerce women into having sex and to make sex more easily accessible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:26 AM
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Your post is bitter and mean spirited. Just because a relationship didn’t work out doesn’t mean these women were reveling in your heartbreak. It also doesn’t justify your cruelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:26 AM
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Multiple men spoke up in support of the guy I described. Are all these men assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:25 AM
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You’re confusing a relationship where a woman is economically dependent on a man with one where she’s a prostitute. In your SAHM example, the husband is financially supporting a household, his spouse, and their shared children as part of an ongoing marriage. The money is not ordinarily calculated or conditioned on individual sex acts. She may fear losing her home, lifestyle, family structure, or financial security if the marriage ends, but that does not retroactively turn the entire marital arra…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:24 AM
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If I go on a first date, I immediately tell the guy “I am looking for marriage.” If he isn’t, he can leave. It’s unbelievable how much rationalization men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:22 AM
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So you agree that it’s sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:21 AM
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Was he truly unaware or was he just not willing to lose access to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:50 PM
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“I am not a bigot against women” lmfao yes you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:50 PM
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Why? I don’t have a definition. You make it very clear that the price is way too high for you, so that is too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:49 PM
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You are equating “sex and money exist in a relationship” with “every relationship is a form of sex work”. Unfortunately most men make this mistake, and have a hard time differentiating between a SAHM and a SW. the SAHM is not being paid a salary for sex. They have a partnership that extends into shared finances, household and familial duties, and other shared obligations. The family has organized itself so that the man supports the family financially. He isn’t purchasing a sexual encounter. Her …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:49 PM
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That doesn’t mean it isn’t sexual for the guy. Clearly he’s paying attractive women to be with him, even if they aren’t having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:43 PM
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Yes he was taking advantage of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:43 PM
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You’re derailing the conversation. She may not be attractive enough for a man he own age. Most women aren’t models being hit up by NBA stars. She may have low self esteem. She may see a father figure in the married dude. It doesn’t matter. As long as a woman is available and attractive enough , a man will cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:35 PM
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The CIA used to do this to men in brothels. It’s called operation midnight climax.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:31 PM
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Because sex work is a shady industry. The CIA used to use brothels to drug men and experiment on them using LSD and mind control tactics. It’s called operation midnight brothel. This is how SW works.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:29 PM
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These women aren’t regular women who are paid for just existing. They are sex workers. Men are paying for their time, beauty, flattery, validation, attention etc if sex is off the table (in most cases, sex is involved).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:27 PM
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They are genuine sugar babies. They just cost too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:25 PM
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Not ending in marriage doesn’t mean that marriage ou weren’t searching for a spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:00 PM
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Because he has money that he didn’t have when he was younger and now he has options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:53 PM
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So your point is irrelevant and you’re just shouting into the void.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:53 PM
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All it takes is a young, hot coworker to flirt with him and he will be willing to ditch his family for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:42 PM
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Nope. She could have also stayed single until she was ready to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:42 PM
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Yes I am saying he should have communicated that she was just a casual girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:41 PM
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Most people are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:41 PM
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Nothing I said contradicts itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:40 PM
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Usually they are expected to do sexual stuff. And even if the sugar baby isn’t having sex, there is still a sexual element. The John/ Jane is paying for the time of a person they find sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:38 PM
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They are sex workers. It’s just sex work but it isn’t exactly direct prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:33 PM
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I mean that’s a pretty good way to get money without having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:26 PM
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They are sex workers. They can have whatever random standard they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:20 PM
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I didn’t say a relationship means commitment to marriage. But if you know you don’t want to marry that person, you should leave instead of wasting their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:19 PM
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That doesn’t provide a good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:18 PM
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Why do you think that affects anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:17 PM
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There isn’t anything to project.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:16 PM
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It doesn’t imply that at all. It just implies that you are looking for someone to marry. Thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:16 PM
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Or just stayed single until she met him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:13 PM
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He is talking about men and what men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:13 PM
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He called her his girlfriend, not friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:13 PM
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It’s still shitty to not say anything. I didn’t say she should have not brought it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:12 PM
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🙄 you’re missing the point. If we are going to do it, we don’t gain anything
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:07 PM
1

Yes it’s the same vibe
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:03 PM
1

That sounds like you used them for sex and attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:02 PM
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“You don’t owe people anything” applied to sex and men coercing women into sex because they believed that if they paid for a date, or went on a certain number of dates a woman has to open her pussy. It doesn’t mean you should be toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:00 PM
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“I am not a bigot against women”. Sure, Jan.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:51 PM
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He doesn’t need to look for another woman. He just needs to have an opportunity that he finds attractive enough to monkey branch for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:48 PM
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It also rips off the woman. As op stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:47 PM
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You can just say “I’m hoping to find a wife” or “I just want a casual relationship for now” and check in every so often to make sure she is on the same page. But no, that may mean reducing sexual access.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:47 PM
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It doesn’t to you. To most it does. You can talk to women and see if you have a connection without hitting on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:45 PM
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See? You think a woman who is formerly promiscuous is so worthless she should just date women if she won’t put out fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:45 PM
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When women fight for their worth, men call them feminazis and put them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:44 PM
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Yes. Sex is. Men use women for sex. To the point where they string women along and hurt them. That is the point of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:44 PM
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No I am seeing men talk about men and saying “men are bad”. He literally says “men lie about relationship status with women, it’s a well known mating strategy it seems and instinctual. It also appears to be a correct strategy reinforced what you state jere for it.” This is a man saying men lie for their own benefit and to the detriment of women. That is men saying men are bad. Since the guy is saying men lie, no amount of communicating will make him honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:43 PM
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No I am seeing men talk about men and saying “men are bad”. He literally says “men lie about relationship status with women, it’s a well known mating strategy it seems and instinctual. It also appears to be a correct strategy reinforced what you state jere for it.” This is a man saying men lie for their own benefit and to the detriment of women. That is men saying men are bad. Since the guy is saying men lie, no amount of communicating will make him honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:43 PM
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Any guy who wasn’t her husband was a waste of her time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:41 PM
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To certain men here, the relationship isn’t serious at all. And no, you can’t assume anything, but it’s a dick move if you don’t intend to marry and let someone assume that you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:43 PM
0

I believe men say these things about men online. These are not my personal views. These are men’s views.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:58 PM
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Because they know it isn’t socially acceptable. It doesn’t change that they privately hold said thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:58 PM
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So you believe men are taking revenge on women. I’m keep this in mind when I date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:47 PM
1

So trash. Nothing. Repeat your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:37 PM
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Because he’s a shitty man. She got nothing out of this to take for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:29 PM
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He took her for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:27 PM
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<image> 8.8k likes. Men say these things out loud. I am not speculating what men say. I am repeating what men say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:27 PM
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<image> Example 1 of many.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:24 PM
0

So you agree men are sociopaths and liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:19 PM
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Nope. You asked about 2 entirely different situations. In my post, the guy was talking about his current relationship and how he mistreated and strung along his ex girlfriend so that he could have access to pussy. In your example, the woman isn’t mistreating and stringing along her boyfriend. She just isn’t disclosing past mistreatment. Men deeply envy women who were mistreated in past relationships because they want to be the ones who do the mistreating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:18 PM
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Yes. Lying by omission. I am not saying she shouldn’t have asked. She is accountable. She left as soon as she figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:16 PM
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Condoms aren’t perfect We live in a world where sex devalues us. Sure in a completely different universe, things would be different. But we live on earth in 2026.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:16 PM
1

What a strange and accusatory answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:11 PM
1

Yikes. I hope she finds someone who isn’t stringing her along.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:10 PM
1

If he wasn’t neurodivergent, then he should have known to at least talk to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:10 PM
1

lol but it’s still transactional. If sex stopped, the relationship would stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:09 PM
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I don’t. But your question is a trap. Just like men don’t owe women commitment, I don’t owe you an answer. I explained what feminism is and you want me to write a dissertation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:09 PM
1

What is the first rule of this forum!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:08 PM
1

Yes so you agree men are diabolical and your reason is because they want revenge on women for feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:07 PM
0

You still are self contradicting. Your self righteousness and bigotry is uncalled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:06 PM
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Because it’s a trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:29 AM
1

They get discarded by whoever is above them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:52 AM
1

He didn’t talk about being uncertain. He was fairly certain that he didn’t want to be with her from the start. It’s important that women realize that men have this power, and abuse it because they are jealous we can go on tinder and get matches with randos.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:51 AM
1

Because you were there and she wasted her time with the wrong guy…..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:50 AM
1

Which men call “beta bux” and a manipulation tactic. Also many men will still monkey branch and leave/ cheat on their wives if they are simply limited by what options are available.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:49 AM
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By ensuring that women with the same training and education have the same opportunities as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:48 AM
1

Interesting that you admit men hate the women they don’t commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:48 AM
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Exactly. You can hem and haw all you want about transactions and try to be self righteous, but the reality is that there are certain transactions that you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:47 AM
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That is a self contradicting answer because you clearly got married and intended to be forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:47 AM
1

Whatever his culture is, he is a selfish and bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:46 AM
1

It’s not infantilizing women to say he’s a sleazy and bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:46 AM
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No this is what men say in men’s spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:45 AM
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I guarantee if sex was out of the picture, you would be whistling a different tune.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:08 AM
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And yet they are cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:07 AM
0

Except for because you love her, you marry her/ spend a lifetime with her. That is what makes the relationship serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:07 AM
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Even if they slut shame, it should mean he understands that she is devalued by sex with him and he should tread carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:06 AM
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He didn’t say he casually encountered his mom and she happened to be there. He said he introduced her to his family. Stop trying to justify men being cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:05 AM
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It means being careful and yes, being suspicious. Suspicious doesn’t have to be cruel or rude or mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:04 AM
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Yes. And men get extremely jealous even though she likely didn’t enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:04 AM
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You literally just don’t discriminate with jobs and with pay and with education. It isn’t that complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:03 AM
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Yes because you’re a man you benefit from the uncommitted state with lots of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:02 AM
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Men also say it on every single social media platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:02 AM
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But that time would have been better spent with her husband who actually loves her versus you where it went nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:02 AM
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Considering how nasty men can get and how powerful retroactive jealousy is, she should keep it a secret. Men will be jealous and want to hurt her the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:01 AM
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this is operating under the premise that relationships that don't lead to marriage are only beneficial to men. in reality there were benefits for her to be in a relationship as well. Because relationships that don’t lead to marriage are only beneficial to men unless the man did some grand gesture for her or rescued her or something. Every extra partner a woman has decreases her value to other men. Every year older a woman is, the less valuable she becomes to men. she also got validation, he also…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:00 AM
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If he’s a psychopath, why do most men here say he’s good?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:56 AM
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Men view relationships as prostitution. You said foul and disgusting things about women then repeated what I said. A serious relationship is one that is leading to marriage and a lifetime commitment. You even proved me correct by saying that is what you do with your wife. A marriage. A marriage or lifetime commitment. Aka a serious relationship led to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:56 AM
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I didn’t say she didn’t have agency. I simply said the guy is a bad guy and it’s eye opening how many men passionately defend him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:55 AM
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Nothing you said contradicts what I said. Nor what I said was utilitarian. <image> You’re married and are in a lifetime commitment with your wife. For all your seething and hemming and hawing about transaction, you pretty much said what I said. A serious relationship is about marriage and a lifetime commitment. Married men disprove hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:54 AM
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It’s a disgusting equivalence to make since sex devalues and degrades women (according to men) and is a risk for pregnancy, while friendship is neutral for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:49 AM
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Everyone is entitled to honesty and less nefariousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:01 AM
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Most do. Ffs we have a freaking weekly n count thread since men got so upset about n counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:01 AM
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So you agree that men are inferior in the sense that they don’t commit and are not loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:00 AM
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And the internet and men’s transparency and men’s writings and words and views on the internet has taught women to view men as sadistic sociopaths. Furthermore, feminism doesn’t say men and women are the same. Feminism says men and women should have equal rights, pay, and opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:00 AM
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Reasonable is to assume the guy is serious about you if you meet his family.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:59 AM
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Most cultural backgrounds are much more conservative about casual sex and view women as victims of casual sex. Outside of western ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:58 AM
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Most men think that way. And you probably did waste her time. Maybe she would have spent more time with her husband if you didn’t meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:18 AM
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It’s sad that you view being a life partner in such a disparaging light.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:17 AM
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I think it’s more that you get benefits like consistent sex, and it’s against your favor to bring this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:16 AM
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It’s a string along if most reasonable people would expect a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:16 AM
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He’s only excused for being unaware if he is neurodivergent. If he’s not, then he doesn’t have an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:15 AM
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I believe it because men say it. Maybe you don’t, but most men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:09 AM
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“She didn’t ask” isn’t an excuse to string someone along.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:01 AM
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Yes women are more committed and loyal than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:00 AM
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Considering that most men here are siding with the man, I think it’s a good idea for women to generalize and proceed accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:00 AM
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Anyone who isn’t neurodivergent will understand that taking her to meet your family generally communicates that you take her seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:59 PM
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I didn’t say she shouldn’t have brought it up. I said that he was a jerk for stringing her along. She didn’t bring it up still isn’t an excuse. And yes, women should wait extensively to have sex, regardless of whether or not her past was promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:59 PM
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And it’s cruel to go about those daily rhythms and give her the false impression that you want her there forever/ long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:56 PM
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I don’t think women are devalued. I think men devalue them. And because heterosexual women date men, we value what men think about us and take their views seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:53 PM
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Yep. This is why the men who say that sex doesn’t devalue women are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:51 PM
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It is. The woman is called ran through and considered chads leftovers by any future man she dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:49 PM
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They were each others main partners and they had permission to do kink stuff with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:48 PM
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You can communicate if you’re looking for a life partner or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:48 PM
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Why wouldn’t you bring it up without asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:47 PM
2

I know. I am saying that he isn’t a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:43 PM
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Sex from men devalues us. We can get sex from anywhere. Why sleep with a guy who is stringing us along when we can just pick one who isn’t? Any man she sleeps with in the future will be jealous that he isn’t getting the same sex she gave the guy who strung her along. Now any future men will resent that a man who treated her worse got better treatment. Thats a curse unto her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:42 PM
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It’s diabolical because the guy gained a lot: consistent sex and validation for a year, and a woman who cooked and did stuff around the house for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:38 PM
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Yes just because she didn’t ask doesn’t mean he is a good person
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:31 PM
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We do understand. It doesn’t make those men less disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:31 PM
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Nope. A serious relationship is one that is leading to marriage/ lifetime commitment. He betrayed her by refusing to admit to her that he didn’t want her around for that long. Her not asking doesn’t make him innocent. A good person will tell the person who they are in a relationship with “hey I don’t plan to marry you” and other relevant information. Even if it means the other person will leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:30 PM
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No most men are reasonably attractive to most women. Most women just are not getting horny for random men and men get angry about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:29 PM
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Women provide sex, increased SMV/ RMV, validation, and housework to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:28 PM
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Except for he was doing serious things like taking her to meet his parents, cooking together, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:28 PM
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Orgasm or not, sex still devalues her in the dating marketplace and is a risk for pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:27 PM
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Your comment is disingenuous. Going about your daily life with your girlfriend of 1 year and lying by omission that you don’t take her seriously is how stringing along works. He should have disrupted his schedule and told her that he doesn’t intend to be with her long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:26 PM
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Anything sexual that a woman does to a man or a man does to a woman is a gift the woman is giving a man. Nope, he isn’t giving her a gift. Because he gains value from sex. He identifies as a master key.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:35 PM
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That is how stringing along works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:35 PM
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He lied by omission. She was content because she thought the relationship was serious when it wasn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:34 PM
2

Yes it would be genuinely better because he didn’t spend a year misleading her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:33 PM
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This thread is proof. Most of the comments from men are making excuses and defending the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:33 PM
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It’s an excuse. “She didn’t ask” isn’t a reason to string someone along.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:32 PM
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Most men are reasonably attractive to most women. This doesn’t mean we walk around getting wet and flicking our beans to the thought of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:32 PM
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“She didn’t ask” isn’t an excuse to mislead someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:31 PM
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So circling back to the original topic, sex is a gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:31 PM
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No. I don’t care what excuses he has. The situation was hurtful and cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:09 PM
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No matter how gratifying it is, the more partners a woman has, the more men expect her to put out faster and to serve them sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:53 PM
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“She didn’t bring it up” isn’t an excuse. If there is relevant information, then they should share relevant information.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:52 PM
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The only way this happened unintentionally is if he was neurodivergent. And neurodivergent people still usually have empathy and don’t do shit like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:52 PM
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I don’t even care what “objectified” means. Sex devalues us. Men should be grateful when we agree to have sex with them, as we are devaluing ourselves for their pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:48 PM
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I didn’t say that I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:46 PM
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Hitting on everyone communicates that you either a) don’t care who that partner is at all regardless of compatibility and even attraction (desperate and pathetic) b) it could also communicate that you want multiple partners and one isn’t enough (untrustworthy playboy womanizer) or c) that you don’t care who you go out with because you just want to fool around (womanizer). Hitting on 1-2 women at a time who you vibe with and get to know communicates that you’re intentional about who you are askin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:46 PM
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I am arguing that he was. I think he was behaving inhumanly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:41 PM
1

If he wasn’t a bad person, he would want to make sure she isn’t being led on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:41 PM
1

Women are prizes and sex is a gift. We have weekly n count threads. Every new partner devalues us.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:40 PM
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So you wouldn’t string her along like the guy in OOP did and expect her to bring it up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:39 PM
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I believe it too. Men have drilled into me that my value is my youth, beauty, and fertility. I can’t change how men think. I can protect myself from my value being wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:36 PM
1

“She didn’t bring it up” isn’t an excuse to string someone along.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:32 PM
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Women should know that men have zero moral issues with stringing them along and wasting their time. Because “she didn’t ask” is an excuse men make for lying by omission.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:32 PM
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It’s not cheating but it’s wasting her time. “She should have brought it up” is not an excuse to be a sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:31 PM
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No you haven’t. I have receipts. <image> It’s not desperate and pathetic to want a partner. It’s desperate and pathetic to join an activity and hit on every woman there. It’s not desperate and pathetic to join an activity and ask out 1-2 women at a time and slowly get to know the women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:30 PM
1

Why not be honest?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:29 PM
1

Then perhaps you should communicate with them and tell them how bad they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:29 PM
1

Sex is a gift women give to men. Because it decreases our value and is a risk for pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:28 PM
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I think it’s callous disregard. Not asking is not an excuse to leave out important information about the relationship. Even if she leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:27 PM
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It is. That is what men say it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:27 PM
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I agree. If it’s relevant, just say it. Even if it means they will leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:26 PM
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I didn’t say this is against her will. A woman can get those benefits from another guy who is serious about her. I stated my intention to three women in a row. All three early relationships ended within a week of me stating my intentions. From now on, I'm not stating shit. That’s the point of stating your intentions. So you don’t hurt them and waste their time. It’s not so you can get pussy more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:24 PM
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I don’t think men and women are the same. I think men lack the same moral integrity and natural affections and empathy that women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:23 PM
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This isn’t my friend, it’s a Redditor. And it’s not majorly her fault. It’s mostly his. This is like those relationships in high school where one person cheats on their boyfriend and justifies it by saying “well they never asked me to be exclusive”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:21 PM
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I didn’t say they are desperate and pathetic. I said that is the image they project. Furthermore, you said that women claim it’s desperate and pathetic to want a partner. That is completely different from what is being discussed now. It’s not desperate and pathetic to want a partner. It is desperate and pathetic to pursue a bunch of women at once at the same place, and it gives those women the impression that you’re a womanizer even if you are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:20 PM
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Why not just break up or communicate that you’re delaying marriage and questioning the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:17 PM
1

Yeah because they are superficial and overlook his goodness and honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:17 PM
3

Yes I agree he was using her and wasn’t a good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:12 PM
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Yes I always thought they would be on top of communicating considering that their relationship is so unconventional
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:12 PM
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Yes. I repeat what red pill men say about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:11 PM
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It’s a year that she could have spent either with someone better or looking for someone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:10 PM
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There is no problem to that. Women know they aren’t entitled to commitment or honesty. Women know men are nefarious and cruel. Women try to protect themselves and men accuse them of misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:07 PM
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Even if she is formerly promiscuous, she should still wait. Regardless of what the guy thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:06 PM
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It’s diabolical to let someone spend an entire year under the impression that things are more serious than they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:06 PM
1

I am repeating what men say. I think women should read this and navigate life accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:05 PM
1

Men are transactional first. I’m pointing out what she provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:05 PM
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I didn’t say anyone owes me anything. Not owing someone anything doesn’t justify being a sociopath and wasting their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:04 PM
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Yes I think that is the right thing to do. My acquaintance had a FWB and he caught feelings for her. She told him she doesn’t want a relationship and she doesn’t want to hurt him. They amicably split up. While he was sad, he respected that she didn’t drag it on and hurt him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:02 PM
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I think deep down, he knew if he told her that he isn’t serious and that the relationship is just for fun, she would leave and he would lose access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:00 PM
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