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I feel like basically all of his pulls are due to that particular girl thinking he was handsome, and he just managed to not mess it up. Really nothing that impressive. Pure 'numbers game' if you will I agree 100%. In most of his in-field videos, it was very clear that the girl was hooked after taking a single look at him.
/r/seduction09/01/20 09:18 PM
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I agree with everything you said. The better I got with women, the more I learned that a lot of PUA instructors are just creepy fucks that are preying on insecure guys. Few are the real deal. Rest are just guys with a lot of mental health problems. I personally met some of the internet famous PUAs in person. I would not take advice from some of them for crossing the street let alone picking up chicks.
/r/seduction09/01/20 08:56 PM
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He says he helped contribute a lot to RSD in its infancy for which he never received credit. Truth? idk, but that's the story. I was not there when those things were happening. Back then, RSD was not even considered a good PUA company. There were a lot better options when it came to PUA training. I went to their forums once and I said this is bullshit and left. What I am about to say does not come from personal experience. This is just a rumor I heard about him from a friend who claims to know M…
/r/seduction30/12/19 09:59 PM
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They all are deleted. Once in a while someone will upload them into a different channel, and they will stay there until RSD sends a notice to YouTube to take them down.
/r/seduction26/12/19 08:08 PM
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The whole PUA community in media is misinterpreted Yes and no. The whole PUA community in media is misinterpreted. This is the truth. But, a lot of PUA's did a lot of scammy, illegal, wrong things and put those videos on youtube. This is what got us into this place. You can't just blame YouTube or media without pointing fingers at some PUA companies.
/r/seduction14/12/19 12:19 AM
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Thanks for the review, please keep it here so others can see it and learn from your experience. I met ManWhore only once. From what I could tell he was a total fool with anger issues. After meeting him, I went to his youtube channel, He had only two in field videos at the time. One of which was him trying to pull a totally out of her mind high on drugs girl from what appeared to be EDC in Vegas. The other video was when 3 escorts started talking to him during his video recording. These escorts w…
/r/seduction14/12/19 12:05 AM
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Too dumb for the "IN BAD MARRIAGES, SEEK MARRIAGE COUNSELOR OR FILE FOR A DIVORCE BEFORE YOU BETRAY YOUR HUSBAND'S MOST HONEST FEELINGS AND TAKE ANOTHER PENIS INTO YOUR PUSSY" crowd
/r/seduction21/03/19 11:59 PM
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So in a way, they were kinda square Fuck NO! She cheated on him! She looked at him in the eye and she lied to him. She abandoned his trust. This is not even a billion miles close to what he is doing (living his life after his wife cheated on him and they separated) The right way of getting out of a soulless marriage is not cheating. It is called seeing a marriage counselor or filing for a divorce if that does not work. The film makes it clear that what she did was unjustifiably wrong Nope, the f…
/r/seduction21/03/19 11:56 PM
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I am not sure why you are getting downvoted. His wife cheated on him. After they broke up and he moved to a new house by himself and started working on himself. He had sex with another woman. At the end of the movie, we were sold it was all the same because they both had sex. Some parts of that movie were intentionally designed to make girls with feminist mindset happy so the movie would not face a back-slash from female audience.
/r/seduction21/03/19 08:45 PM
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Good looking girls get hit on all the time. They accept this as part of life and they understand flirting as something natural. Some of them developed a flirtatious personality even without knowing it. Nobody hits on ugly girls. For them, a guy walking up to them and flirting with them is something that happens once ever couple years. They find this very strange. Most of the time, when a guy is flirting with them ugly girls, the guy approaches them with the mind set of "we both know you are ugly…
/r/seduction20/03/19 10:38 PM
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It's cause ugly girls usually have very high self esteem Thanks for making me laugh out loud in this dire day stranger :D
/r/seduction20/03/19 09:27 PM
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Listen to this guy. Also, if you are an international student, then the consulate will not ever issue you another visa in your whole life because there was an arrest report for rape in your criminal history now. (She destroyed your whole life)
/r/seduction17/03/19 09:21 PM
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2 days ago, I typed following to another guy who asked same question for his brother. Look at my post history and my account. I have been in PUA long enough. I know at least 20-30 guys that took bootcamps with different companies. I, myself, met multiple head coaches of multiple different PUA companies over the years. First of all, bootcamps are not magic bullets that will cure all of your problems with girls in a weekend. I am saying this from my experience and from the experience of any person…
/r/seduction28/11/18 06:35 AM
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Look at my post history and my account. I have been in PUA long enough. I know at least 20-30 guys that took bootcamps with different companies. I, myself, met multiple head coaches of multiple different PUA companies over the years. First of all, bootcamps are not magic bullets that will cure all of your problems with girls in a weekend. I am saying this from my experience and from the experience of any person that took PUA bootcamp. In my 10 years in PUA, I have never seen anyone go from being…
/r/seduction26/11/18 11:05 PM
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Some things below are my interpretation of the situation by reading comments from others online! Some others are rumors from online threads. Others are my understanding of the review of the court documents between Todd and RSD done by some lawyers! If you want to look at the court documents, then you can find them here: https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/22296890/VanDeHey_v_Real_Social_Dynamics,_Inc_et_al This following youtube guy had 2+ hours review of the Todd vs RSD court documents, he…
/r/seduction26/11/18 04:10 AM
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There was a similar thread about RSD few days ago. I typed following there: I have been in PUA for 10 years. I met few RSD head instructors and employees. I have never met a single RSD instructor, coach, or employee that put the success of their client above their pay check. Whenever I met them in person, it was all about pressure sales techniques, empty promises, and lies. Sometimes they even tried to sell more products to their clients in the middle of their bootcamp! Also, if you didn,t know …
/r/seduction26/11/18 01:41 AM
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I have been in PUA for 10 years. I consider myself very knowledgeable and somewhat of an expert in this area. I have been extremely judgemental of lots of PUA startups coming here, dumping their very shitty knowledge, only in the hopes of making money out of the naive guys here. That being said, I checked this post. I checked few other posts from your history. I agree with most of the things you said. I appreciate your posts. Please keep up the good work! I realized you also have link to your bo…
/r/seduction22/11/18 08:10 AM
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This does not change what I said. Tyler is not as socially adept as is claimed by OP. He is just as obnoxious as the other guy, he is just at the other end of the spectrum!
/r/seduction21/11/18 12:28 AM
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I am not saying it is bad! I am saying that it is not as good for two reasons. First, Tyler knows that the camera is rolling. He is "acting" in this video! 2nd, people in this thread are putting a halo on top of Tyler's head and claiming that he is all glorious. This is wrong. Even when he was acting. Tyler's actions are as obnoxious as the other guy. They are just at the different ends of the spectrum!
/r/seduction20/11/18 08:37 PM
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I do not agree. From what I see, Tyler is trying to further and further bait the guy knowing that the camera is rolling. It is not that he switched off his emotions. His emotions were grinding his smile out knowing that he can make money out of this!
/r/seduction20/11/18 08:35 AM
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he doesn't lose his cool while the other insults him Because Tyler knows that his cameraman, wing-man, and others are there. He knows if things get out of hand, he will get help. In addition that, he is knows he can use this video to sell out his bootcamps. So he started acting.
/r/seduction20/11/18 08:28 AM
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Yup, thought the same! Both guys are extremely obnoxious.
/r/seduction20/11/18 08:25 AM
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Hes so socially adept its insane. Hmmm, are you fucking kidding me? Both of the guys are extremely obnoxious!
/r/seduction20/11/18 08:25 AM
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I was writing a very scientific reply to you. I was 3 paragraphs in, then I deleted all of it. Instead I will have some fun :) You remind me of my friend. Who learned Martial Arts the natural way! Normally, when you learn martial arts. You find a teacher who teaches you things step by step. You first learn how to throw jabs, then cross, then hooks, then kicks, etc... Instead my friend learned it the natural way! What he did was to jump into the ring with other professional martial artists and sm…
/r/seduction13/09/18 05:00 PM
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How do you learn it?
/r/seduction13/09/18 04:31 PM
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Please define natural game and how natural game should be learned before we get into a debate about it. I saw natural game guys in field smashing their face on the dirt one after another for months, sometimes for years. None of them ever had 1/10 of the success of the Love Systems guys.
/r/seduction13/09/18 04:10 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/9fggav/thoughts_about_rsd_scam_or_not/e5wseao/
/r/seduction13/09/18 03:49 PM
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Although he is an ex-rsd, I bought Todd's "The System" when it was 120$. I only finished 35% of the product so far. So far I like what I see. It is top notch! It is one of the best PUA products out there! I strongly suggest you to check out everything that is put out by LoveSystems old instructors. The old Love Systems instructors were the best. Literally those guys were the best at teaching pickup! It is extremely cheesy way of gaming, but Mystery and some of his old students also put out a lot…
/r/seduction13/09/18 03:48 PM
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The only reason they added a female coach was because they are misogynistic and some of their videos are borderline sexual assault! They wanted to fend off the increasing harrasment from the female and feminist community. They pulled a similar stunt by getting a review from a girl last year. Soon after that girl did YouTube review of RSD and she "could see Tyler was in the room with everyone only because he wanted to help", she got hired by RSD. If the rumors are true, she was also related to so…
/r/seduction13/09/18 12:14 PM
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I have been in PUA for 10 years. I met few RSD head instructors and employees. I have never met a single RSD instructor, coach, or employee that put the success of their client above their pay check. Whenever I met them in person, it was all about pressure sales techniques. Sometimes they even tried to sell more products to their clients in the middle of their bootcamp! Think about it like this. If you ask an RSD instructor a question he has 2 options. He can tell you answer A which will help yo…
/r/seduction13/09/18 11:52 AM
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Please link to the studies/research that has outdated 6 Pillars of Self Esteem!
/r/seduction07/09/18 10:56 PM
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Read "6 pillars of self esteem" by Nathaniel Branden Read "Radical Honesty" by Brad Blanton Those are the two that just came into my mind at the first glance. They both are world renowned psychologist that mainly focus on self esteem. They both are regarded as the pioneers of self esteem psychology books and exercises. They both agree with fake it until you make it!
/r/seduction07/09/18 10:50 PM
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Until now I probably read 10+ books about self esteem or self development. They all agree that, only way to get more confident is to reshape your subconsciousness. The only way to reshape your subconsciousness is to use conscious part of your brain to train subconscious part of your brain! The only way to do it is to fake it. Unfortunately, most people who saw this title will not upvote your post or mine. Because the title sounds cool.
/r/seduction07/09/18 10:26 PM
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I took a bootcamp with some of the best pickup artists before. One of the bootcamp instructors I worked with told me he does not do online dating. When I asked him he summed it up pretty well: "When doing online game, it takes me 5 hours to create the same amount of attraction that I would create in 5 minutes in person. Even after that, her attention span lasts until someone else enters her radar. I can't spend 2-3 hours a day in an app to only get 1 date with a girl that is 6 or 7. I get a lot …
/r/seduction23/07/18 09:57 PM
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My brother, thanks for writing this. I also took a break from gaming to be with this girl. 2 days ago she looked at my phone without my permission. While she was sleeping I took a look at her phone. I was planning to come back and make lots of jokes about things in the morning. To my surprise i saw that, she had 3 guys in rotation talking about marriage with all 3. And, I was the least of options. Her best option was a guy who was using her as a fuck buddy and did not give a shit about her. In a…
/r/seduction07/07/18 07:59 PM
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For the love of whatever the fuck you believe in, listen to this guy! Stay away from RSD. Go Love Systems + Todd's new content.
/r/seduction02/07/18 08:46 PM
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As a very old guy that has been in PUA for 10+ years I would like to add my 2 cents. This article is complete garbage. I am very confident that the author did not even read single book or scientific study about self esteem. If you need to work on your self esteem, I strongly suggest you to read "6 Pillars Of Self Esteem" by Natheniel Brandan : https://www.amazon.com/Six-Pillars-Self-Esteem-Definitive-Leading/dp/0553374397
/r/seduction18/06/18 08:26 PM
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Todd is realeasing a new product called "The System by Todd". From what I have seen or heard so far, it sounds very promising.
/r/seduction24/05/18 06:56 PM
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It is very well known that they edit their videos in a very manipulating and mispresenting way. This is why they have so many cuts in their videos. Everybody I know that got good at game told me not to follow RSD. Among the people I met through PUA, the RSD fans had the least success even though they usually put in more hours into PUA than an average guy.
/r/seduction16/05/18 01:18 AM
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as u/WIA20XX mentioned, how much did you spend with each girl? Also, how much did they invest in the conversation? Even if you spend 5 hours with a girl, if you are the only one investing then they will not meet you. You have to learn how to get the girls to invest in you during your interaction with them.
/r/seduction15/05/18 10:07 PM
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Hey bro, good job beating your AA and start doing approaches. I salute you for that. That being said, your openers are really bad. They are extremely BAD. They lack social calibration, situational awareness, demonstrating higher value, etc. They will not work no matter what your skill or confidence level is. Basically, you are throwing yourself under the bus, hoping the bus driver would fall in love with you! I strongly suggest you to read/watch some PUA videos. You are sabotaging yourself, soon…
/r/seduction15/05/18 09:32 PM
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First of all, stay away from RSD immersion and RSD Luke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZzI8Irj0tM https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/6rhaos/review_rsd_las_vegas_immersionbootcamp_with_rsd/ I heard good things about Alex and Todd and their coaching.
/r/seduction03/05/18 02:19 AM
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I don't know where I read it but there was a line that went "the pick up industry does not play tricks on women, it plays tricks on men". You have to understand, most of pick up industry is not about teaching you how to pick up chicks. It's about convincing you that you are not enough, and you will only be enough if you use their products. This is why companies like RSD do their best to make pick up sound very complex and hard. This is why in all of their videos they jump from one topic to anoth…
/r/seduction28/04/18 05:36 PM
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She would automatically shot this guy down if she thought he was ugly. It is the biggest red flag for me that she is planning to keep doing it, with your permission to keep you on the leash for a while. Now, every girl in life flirts with guys. My exes did, my FWBs did, my friends who were married did. This is part of being female. Through evolutionary psychology, they are programmed to be nice to every guy in the tribe. You handled this very bad. The obvious answer is to not be reactive to the …
/r/seduction02/04/18 08:23 PM
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She would automatically shot this guy down if she thought he was ugly. It is the biggest red flag for me that she is planning to keep doing it, with your permission to keep you on the leash for a while. Now, every girl in life flirts with guys. My exes did, my FWBs did, my friends who were married did. This is part of being female. Through evolutionary psychology, they are programmed to be nice to every guy in the tribe. The biggest red flag here is that, she is asking for your permission to kee…
/r/seduction02/04/18 08:18 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/3ajytm/getting_out_of_credit_card_late_fees_super_easy/ It was deleted by the mods though!
/r/seduction02/04/18 03:22 AM
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Hmmm, why are all of your FR's smell extremely like advertisement for your products but there is little to no teaching in them? Good job hiding your advertisement ads as FR though. Edit: Lol I checked your post history, turns out you tried to sell some financial products under r/personalfinance and got banned from there I think :). Now you are trying to pull the same shit here by trying to sell your dating products. Instead of calling these ADs, you call them FRs, that is all. After seeing your …
/r/seduction02/04/18 02:50 AM
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One of two things: 1- You suck at game. He knows he is going to fuck girl 2 too. He feels bad about stealing 2 girls from you and having pity. 2- You suck at game. He thinks you fucking suck at game. Now is fucking with you because he is a prick. He tells me he is trying to teach me a lesson to not get too attached with girls This is a fucking bullshit. He is just a dude who stole your girl, now he is playing with you to keep you on the hook. I don't think you can learn anything from this guy. B…
/r/seduction02/04/18 02:42 AM
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Every girl I have ever had sex with, every girl I ever dated, every girl I was close friends with, had 1 night stands with guys. This does not mean that they have 1 night stands every night. But, every girl has some tipping point where they will say "I am fucking this guy tonight.". Some girls I met had 1 night stand only once or twice in their whole life. Some girls had 1 night stands with 3 different guys from the bar every week for a year. Some girls go to the bar with the intention of having…
/r/seduction01/04/18 05:26 PM
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Tyler lives in Los Angeles, and he is always wearing clothes from brands that are worth 1000$ to 8000$... He does not need a game in LA to get laid with those clothing, his mansion, and his connections. I am sure he bangs lots of chicks thanks to those reasons. But, his PUA skills are not good. I heard he showed extreme lack of social calibration. He went all of his sets with out of proportion energy, and girls asked him to leave many times.
/r/seduction01/04/18 05:21 AM
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DONT! I learned about PUA 10 years ago. I kep coming back to it after each breakup from LTR. I keep coming back. Over the years, I met more than 20-30 people who took bootcamps. 1st of all, it is not the magic pill you that you think it is. Even the best bootcamp I heard did not improve the skills of students that much. There some reviews for bootcamps in reddit. I like this guys review on 5-6 bootcamps that he took : https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/6rhaos/review_rsd_las_vegas_immers…
/r/seduction31/03/18 07:23 PM
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I rarely upvote marketing posts from PUA companies here. You can look at my post history and see how many times I shit talked PUAs trying to promote their business here. That being said, FUCKING LISTEN to this guy!!! I am so much impressed with him giving out these 3 facts, I even subscribed to his channel. On the other hand, he mentioned 3 important parts that needs fixing, without actually giving applicable steps about how to fix them. This video would have been great if he also added some sec…
/r/seduction27/03/18 02:56 AM
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how many partners we have had, This is bad, you have to keep her guessing. Do not ever tell your number to a girl no matter if it is big or low. It will always lower your value whether you have high number or low number. She told me she really could go next level, but doesn't know if that's a good idea. I told her we won't be having sex tonight. Big no no! One of the biggest mistakes you have done so far. There was a time when a girl that was 7 wanted to have sex with me. It was 5 am in the morn…
/r/seduction25/03/18 11:34 PM
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Lol, I have been waiting for the same thing.
/r/seduction22/03/18 02:01 AM
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Lol, Seems like RSD interns are back to pumping non-stop RSD videos into the sub... Next thing we are going to get is 1000s upvotes to RSD videos from Papa's bots. (if you did not know RSD Papa is using bots to downvote/upvote things in social media : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeiAyy_W_A8) On the other hand, it is hella fucking nice to see RSD trying to improve the quality of their videos because Todd started doing a lot better than them in mere 3 months. If you did not check it yet, I str…
/r/seduction21/03/18 04:55 PM
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RSD Tyler releases the most useless videos of any PUA I have ever seen. He takes 1 hours to explain a topic that can be explained in 5 minutes, he still half asses his explanation and make things a lot more complex than it should be. According to following thread, many seem to agree with my opinion: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/7tqtis/does_anyone_else_watch_an_rsd_video_and_feel_like/
/r/seduction20/03/18 09:15 PM
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The biggest news and change these days is that, Todd left RSD. Shortly after that, he said with RSD he had to comply with company policy and not call other instructors on their bullshit. He told the audience that, he had to agree with other instructors even when he knew that their advice would not work. These days he is running his own youtube channel and his own bootcamps. From what I heard, both his youtube channel and his bootcamps are one of the best in the world. I would give them both a sh…
/r/seduction20/03/18 07:36 PM
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It is about your boundaries... Who are you??? Are you the little bitch that gets abused by drunk girls for jealousy reasons in a club?? Are you the man who fights and stands for his principles? What i suggested might get you banned from the club. But, what I suggested is in congruent with who I am. I am no-ones bitch. No-one slaps or hits me and gets away with it. I would have taken it to the bouncers and probably call cops if they did not comply. I have no problem getting banned from clubs for …
/r/seduction18/03/18 02:24 AM
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Every club I have ever been to has security cameras watching all over the place. You can tell them to check the video.
/r/seduction17/03/18 11:45 PM
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This!!! You don't need to take abuse from anyone. What she did is an assault!!! I would have gotten her kicked out of the club and pressed charges against her, just to teach her that an assault is not ok.... I sometimes lose my mind seeing how everyone in this sub talk about being masculine, being dominant, being alpha, then they approve getting all kinds of abuse from girls because they are all insecure virgins...
/r/seduction17/03/18 10:25 PM
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This!!! You don't need to take abuse from anyone. What she did is an assault!!! I would have gotten her kicked out of the club and pressed charges against her, just to teach her that an assault is not ok.... I sometimes lose my mind seeing how everyone in this sub talk about being masculine, being dominant, being alpha, then they approve getting all kinds of abuse from girls because they are all insecure virgins...
/r/seduction17/03/18 10:22 PM
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80% of being handsome comes from hitting the gym 4 times a week and dressing well. So, hit the gym and buy good fitting and stylish clothes. I have seen 5'5" guy create miracles due to his workout, dress, and confidence.
/r/seduction14/03/18 08:05 PM
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It is single handedly the best social circle product in my opinion. It is 10 time better than the Social Circle Blue Print from RSD. It also comes with a very useful PDF file that explains how to start building social circle from the ground up in new cities.
/r/seduction14/03/18 07:09 PM
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I have been in game 9 years or so. Here are few things that I learned: Never, I mean never tell your friends that you study game. This will only back-fire. You will meet the creepiest guys through RSD Inner Circle (and overall through RSD). As a result of this, most of the information people find though RSD fan base are very creepy. If she checked RSD media scandals (Julien sexually assaulting a girl, etc) or RSD client base, then she will think you are the same as those guys. The only path to r…
/r/seduction14/03/18 07:04 PM
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I know multiple people that took bootcamp from "veal scrotal harmonics". Other than the 2 guys that worked with Todd, they all hated it. Tyler and Luke got real bad reviews from the people they worked with...
/r/seduction13/03/18 10:14 AM
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I don't know the reason, the mods did not get back to me. But, my whole post is deleted as well. May be the mods are pro RSD?
/r/seduction11/03/18 01:42 AM
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Just putting this here for a while. I don't know if it is the auto moderator or one of the real moderators. But, my replies are getting deleted. I messaged the mods to see what is going on.
/r/seduction10/03/18 11:07 PM
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Luke had a video where he was pulling, the guy at the following link alleges that Luke was pulling his girl friend of many years :) https://uanman.xyz/2016/03/27/rsd-luke-uses-his-girlfriend-in-his-videos/ After this came out, Luke deleted the videos!
/r/seduction10/03/18 09:53 PM
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As a guy who is getting closer to his 40s, listen to this guy... Lifting and dressing well and showing your higher status as a 40 year old guy will get you mad amount of 20s pussy
/r/seduction09/03/18 09:11 AM
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I never liked any of RSD stuff for two reasons... 1- They take 2 hours to explain a concept that could be explained in 10 minutes, they still do a half assed job of explaining it. 2- They say lots, and I mean LOTS, of things that are outright wrong. I remember the time when Julien said you should grab a girl, lift her, and move her few feet away then drop her because that sends mixed signals to her brain to make you her daddy or something like that. I saw two guys get banned from clubs because t…
/r/seduction07/03/18 11:20 PM
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RSD has a lot more bad reviews than any other pua company... You can use Google to figure that out for your self
/r/seduction04/03/18 02:09 AM
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RSD is the worst PUA company... Read these reviews: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/58b17g/rsd_bootcamp_review_for_those_thinking_of_going/ https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/6rhaos/review_rsd_las_vegas_immersionbootcamp_with_rsd/ https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/7p4i6f/what_are_your_thoughts_on_rsd/dseie51/
/r/seduction03/03/18 09:13 AM
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It is just my 2 cents but RSD is having very negative reviews everywhere left and right in the last few months. It is possible they got their interns to post here to bring back some of the lost customers.
/r/seduction03/03/18 09:08 AM
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Yup, just bunch of random footage from random strip clubs put together.
/r/seduction03/03/18 09:06 AM
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That is what it is. You can shoot the same video in vegas for 3k or so. Maybe even less. So he is dumping 3k to boost a product he knows will bring 100k back to him.
/r/seduction03/03/18 09:05 AM
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I just replied to the guy above you. Read the reviews i linked. There is one for Luke in between. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/817znv/what_are_some_pua_companies_besides_rsd/dv1hu1w/
/r/seduction01/03/18 10:57 PM
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I second this!!! Right now Todd is single handedly the best PUA who is constantly putting out the best content on youtube! I also agree with OP. RSD is getting more and more scummy day by day. Read this review by these guys: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/58b17g/rsd_bootcamp_review_for_those_thinking_of_going/ https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/6rhaos/review_rsd_las_vegas_immersionbootcamp_with_rsd/ https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/7p4i6f/what_are_your_thoughts_o…
/r/seduction01/03/18 10:47 PM
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If you really want to learn about gaming promoters and having a great social circle, then watch "Social Circle Mastery" from love systems, it is 100 times better than the SCB from Luke.
/r/seduction21/02/18 01:33 AM
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RSD has no real style, they are just bunch of populist guys who is in this to make a lot of money. At any given time, they only hype and push ideas that is making money for them. They really don't have a style. They just go "People are buying abc these days, let's start selling it". I have to give it to them though, they have the best marketing team of any PUA company i saw. If you are wondering, RSD was very outer game focused in its early days. The reason they changed was because they started …
/r/seduction21/02/18 01:27 AM
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That's because game consists 80% of inner game Stay delusional my friend.
/r/seduction20/02/18 10:45 PM
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100% agree, hence the reason I stopped commenting here or coming here most of the time. I have been around seddit for 7+ years, and I have been in pickup 9-10 years i think. This place had following transformation: Seduction -> PUA -> Inner Game -> Self Help -> Mental Masturbation -> I am a virgin I can't get laid -> I opened 1 set after 5 years come congratulate me!! That being said, I am still looking for a good forums to talk PUA with other guys. I did not run into anything good. Most of what…
/r/seduction20/02/18 09:23 PM
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Take this new girl that I met a couple days ago. We met at a club. We kicked it off really well and we ended up exchanging numbers. Fast forward to yesterday. I take her out for some coffee and we walk to the beach nearby. I set up my blanket in the sand and we sit and talk about our lives. We dip our feet in the water and find sea shells to take with us. I hold her hand when she says they are cold and walk her to her car. I kiss her goodbye as our date comes to an end. This is very bad. You jus…
/r/seduction14/02/18 12:29 AM
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I once watched a video from Tyler. He managed to talk for 20 minutes without actually making single point. I checked some of their other videos from their other guys. It was similar. I have no idea why anyone would follow RSD at this point. Most of their teachings are wrong (they say looks don't matter, money don't matter, your social status don't matter. Then they release a social circle product) Their coaches had lots of problems with law enforcement. If I am not mistaken Julien can not enter …
/r/seduction05/02/18 12:57 AM
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Yup, I had sex with couple Muslim girls in the past. But, I will never initiate anything or flirt with any girl that is wearing hijab. Hijab is an automatic "even if she fucks, she will take too much time investment from me" flag for me. I don't like wasting time, so I'll skip any girl wearing hijab.
/r/seduction02/02/18 01:00 AM
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Although my post makes me sound like a super hero, I am not. I know couple guys who has been in game less than I did and their numbers are above 200. I know a guy who will not have sex with a girl unless she is a playboy/hustler/maxim/victoria models. I know another guy who will not have sex with a girl unless she has 10K+ followers on instagram. I just had few successes here and there! I do not have time to mentor others. My suggestion is stay away from RSD. I am serious, stay away from RSD! In…
/r/seduction25/01/18 12:49 AM
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I am getting close to my 40s now. I learned about game when I was 27. I was a virgin then :). I lost my virginity when I was 28 to a girl that was probably 4 for most people :). Below are few of my success stories to help inspire you. I dont count it anymore but I had sex with more than 40 girls until now. I had a relationship with a naturally blonde, green eyed very hot girl for 2 years. She was hot but It was constant fights with mediocre sex. I was still insecure. I had a relationship with an…
/r/seduction24/01/18 11:58 PM
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It all depends on who you are listening to... RSD created the biggest horde of creepiest guys I met. Even more, those guys started to believe that acting creepy was a good thing to do. I suggest everyone I know to stay away from RSD at all cost. Few quality wings I met over the years also ended up with same conclusion. There are few good guys who give solid advice. Someone named Mark Manson here, he is very good. Check old videos/products from Love Systems. Braddock and Mr. M, were god sent many…
/r/seduction24/01/18 10:24 PM
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Not related to this, but why aren't the new AMA's, like the one with Todd and this one, are not linked at the side bar anymore?
/r/seduction24/01/18 10:13 PM
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Joe and I met twice. We grabbed a bite together once. Pretty solid dude! At the time I was looking for a PUA instructor to work with. I met few different guys from few different companies. I also met some of the world famous PUA instructors at the time. He was pretty much the only guy who seemed genuine. He was the only one that did not try to brain wash me into buying his products or shit talking every other company out there. He was a fresh air in the mist of all those psychopath PUA instructo…
/r/seduction20/01/18 11:58 PM
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At this point RSD run out of ideas to sell. But, their business model strictly focuses on selling more and more products. This is how Papa and Tyler make their money, by getting a cut from each product sold. But, as I said, they run out of ideas to sell. So, they are throwing out bunch of bullshit one after another and see which ones people buy. If you really want to learn real game, I think you should look at the older products from Mystery, Love Systems, Adam Lyons, etc.
/r/seduction17/01/18 02:30 AM
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Braddock, who released the Social Circle Mastery from Love Systems, was the best coach! I know 2 guys that took boot-camp with him, they both came out their mind blown. I heard he would spent 10 minutes explaining a concept, then he spent the next hour by running all of his students through 100s of exercises until everyone in the class perfected that concept. Then he would explain the next concept in the next 10 minutes. Then run another hour of exercises. My friend told me that, it built all of…
/r/seduction17/01/18 02:21 AM
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Nope, I don't know anyone that worked with Julien.
/r/seduction17/01/18 02:00 AM
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I thought i was replying to you. Seems like i replied to wrong guys. Anyways my reply is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/7p4i6f/what_are_your_thoughts_on_rsd/dssn8ih/
/r/seduction17/01/18 01:52 AM
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I know 4 guys that attended the RSD bootcamps. I will summarize below. Tyler - My friend had a bootcamp with him. My friend told me it was bunch of woo woo stuff. Tyler kept talking non-sense with no scientific back-up, then he would act like he solved all of peoples insecurities since childhood. His only actual pick-up advice was "approach more". During in field, some students did better than Tyler. Tyler went into all of his sets with out of propotion high energy and lost all of his sets in fe…
/r/seduction17/01/18 01:49 AM
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My ex-girlfriend broke up with me three months ago. I have been there my friend, it get a lot better as the time goes on. The best remedy for me was to expose my self to lots of girls. I was decently drunk, was having a pretty good time. This is good and bad. Alcohol is a social stimulant but also a depressant. It can help you socialize or it can help you get into very depressive mood. I would open with a simple, yet confident "Hi. I think you're really pretty and I want to meet you." We would t…
/r/seduction01/01/18 01:13 AM
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I'm interested as well...
/r/seduction29/12/17 05:57 PM
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Watch "social circle mastery" by Braddock from love systems. It is the best social circle building product you will ever find. It comes with a PDF file which has some good instructions answering your question in the best detail you will ever find. Edit: it's possible to break your post into 5-6 questions. But, they all are answered in good detail on "social circle mastery"
/r/seduction27/12/17 02:43 AM
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NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE!!!!!! So many virgins here are giving terrible advice all based on their delusional impressions from porn and fake internet PUA marketing! There is a 99% chance that, you can't just walk into this girls house and bang her immediately the same way it happens in porn. You don't go from 30 to 80 without dropping by at 50. From your text, it is obvious that you are at 10 or 20 with this girl. Most of what you wrote can be a sign of attraction given the context…
/r/seduction26/12/17 11:07 PM
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Hmmm, did you watch the video I linked? Todd himself said RSD was trying to take down his channel. I did a bit online research. if my understanding is right here is what happened: Todd and RSD broke up. Todd made it clear that he was starting PUA business. RSD filed trade mark for "Todd Valentine" after Todd decided to stay in pick-up Todd's lawyers are currently contesting the trademark application, saying that brand does not belong to RSD to register as their trademark. Now RSD is using the tr…
/r/seduction20/12/17 11:32 PM
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It was 3 of his videos from a week or two ago. I can't remember the names...
/r/seduction20/12/17 10:18 PM
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I strongly believe his videos are staged There are two ways to make money with pick up. Teach/Sell pickup products or get followers for advertisement money. Looks like he is focusing on the 2nd to make it his source of income.
/r/seduction14/12/17 08:27 PM
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His videos are staged most of the time.
/r/seduction14/12/17 08:11 PM
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I don't know if Todd will have time to answer this. But, as someone who worked with 8 different PUA instructors, I do not suggest you to do a 3 day bootcamp. Everyone, including me, improved their game during the bootcamp. Then, it faded away after 3-4 weeks when bootcamp high wear off. I also do not suggest you to do Vegas Immersion from RSD. There is very little supervision going on in there. There is a review of RSD Immersion somewhere on this sub. Just search for it. I don't know how Todd ru…
/r/seduction06/12/17 10:33 PM
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Would you be willing to get back to Vegas to teach Vegas specific game anytime soon?
/r/seduction06/12/17 09:38 PM
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Hey Todd, thank you so much for doing this and giving us a chance to ask you questions. Also, I would like to congradulate you for your new product Winner Game. It was impressive! I asked few questions below: What are your future plans for personal training? Will you get back to some kind of training you personally do? If yes, what will be the format of it (immersion, 1 week, 3 day bootcamp, 1on1, phone consultation, etc). How much would it cost me to do an immersion like training with you? You …
/r/seduction06/12/17 09:21 PM
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Hey buddy, it all depends on what you need. As much as I hate to say it this way, please go through following check list from one of my other messages: How often do you work out? How often do you do cardio? How often do you take social classes? (Improv, dancing, vocal projection, etc) How often do you meditate? Do you have an identity? (rockstar, bodybuilder, investor, guru, emo, etc) Does your clothes/hair/grooming style reflect your identity? How often do you read about self improvement? How o…
/r/seduction05/12/17 07:24 AM
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I am inclined to believe the other way around. Look at RSD products from 10 years ago, then from 5-6 years ago, then from couple years ago, and now... You will see that their products and target market of their products change a lot! If you compare RSD products from earlier to now, you will realize that they went 180 on some of their core principles. Some of the ideas RSD is selling today was actually generated by some other companies from many years ago. RSD is that huge machine that wants mone…
/r/seduction02/12/17 07:29 PM
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He lost/losing interest. It seems like this is a very confident and very smart guy. He did everything right. He took action He showed interest He keept things entertaining during texts He tried to overcome problems regarding your location. He knew when to move on to the next girl when you did not give him the chance to advance things further. It seems like this guy has a great game and great personality. At this point, the ball is in your court. Your friend did everything right. Yet, your relati…
/r/seduction20/11/17 06:12 PM
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NO! I did yoga on and off for a while. I strongly disagree with this suggestion. Few reasons why: When I was doing yoga, every other week we had a new guy show-up, hit on girls in the class one after another, burn bridges with every girl in the class, then drop out and never come back because most girls are avoiding him by now. If you are already a solid guy with a solid game, then it will work. But, yoga class is no place to learn how to flirt. You will burn bridges with everyone very quickly i…
/r/seduction16/11/17 04:02 AM
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You are making a lot of excuses for why you are in the situation you have. I got this impression as well. Hence why I did not reply to him. I can make suggestions, but they don't mean anything until a person is implementing them. I'll check your video once I am done with work...
/r/seduction15/11/17 10:07 PM
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i(M24) have 3 years romantics relationship with my ex gf(F18) She is 18, you dated her 3 years. So you have been dating a 15 year old when you were 21... (Is that even legal in your country) What happened here is that, the age difference made you look cool. Which 15 year old does not like 21 year old guys? Age alone is bragging rights to her friends about how cool she is. You were taking advantage of her insecurities that comes with her age. after that she looks like trying to get other guy even…
/r/seduction14/11/17 08:43 PM
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Social calibration is very hard to get. Especially if you are just starting or if you are not focusing on it all the time. Try to give it more time but be constantly on top of it. Also, if possible, get some honest and professional person give you a feedback about your social vibe
/r/seduction14/11/17 06:24 PM
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Hey buddy, I hope you don't mind but I took some look at your post history. 1st of all, I dont know much about it, but from what I saw, I did not like Forever Alone subreddit. It seems like you frequent there a lot. Did you hear "You are the sum of your 5 closest friends"? Or, did you hear "Dress for the job you want, not the one you have". Well, it is the same thing about sub-reddits. You should not follow sub-reddits that bring you down, you need to follow sub-reddits that always push you up. …
/r/seduction14/11/17 10:27 AM
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How often do you work out? How often do you do cardio? How often do you take social classes? (Improv, dancing, vocal projection, etc) How often do you meditate? How often do you read about self improvement? How often do you watch self improvement videos? And most importantly!!! How often do you go out?
/r/seduction14/11/17 09:43 AM
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This is a ridiculous advice. This guy has no idea what high value individual means. Please do not listen to this. First of all, she did not lie. She did not get her pictures photoshopped, get them edited, or use someone else's pictures. She just took a picture from an angle that made her more comfortable. Every girl does that. What /u/ethical_pa is talking about is called borders. You do not want people to pass over your borders. When they do, you should punish them accordingly. If someone steps…
/r/seduction12/11/17 11:26 PM
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I learned about game when I was 26. I am 35 now. Last girl I hooked up with was 22. The girl before that I hooked up with 25 year old. Last year I was 34 and I hooked up with 19 years old. That being said, your life style, finances, muscularity, dressing style, etc are extremely important as you get older. This guy will never score any girls no matter what he does: https://st.depositphotos.com/2429035/3100/i/950/depositphotos_31002727-stock-photo-fat-middle-aged-man-got.jpg This guy will have gi…
/r/seduction12/11/17 08:49 PM
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I do not agree with /u/ManInBlack829 In my opinion RSD is one of the most shady PUA businesses out there. They have given so many bad suggestions to their clients only to increase their income, I am having hard time believing them anymore. In addition to that, in recent years their followers turned into total cult. Most of their followers these days will not even accept a single criticism about any of the RSD coaches.
/r/seduction12/11/17 07:31 PM
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I did around 5k approaches. Here is what I learned: Lesson #1 : Real confidence only works with girls that are 7 or below. For hotter girls, confidence alone is NEVER enough!!!! Lesson #2 : You need some kind of strategy to take the girl from hi to bed. Just being yourself is not enough.
/r/seduction12/11/17 02:35 AM
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This!!! I tried to watch some Tyler videos on youtube. I can not even finish his videos. Tyler is literally one of the worst public speakers out there. He just keeps his rumbling about lots of non-sense then he loosely connects what he was saying to some random point. Then everyone in the audience feels like they were so dumb not to see it, but they are so enlightened now!!
/r/seduction08/11/17 08:36 AM
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Someone will reply to you saying that you should watch RSD in fields. Don't do this. I typed following about RSD in field videos in another thread where someone said that Julien almost got into a fist fight with a guy after doing something socially unacceptable: I am surprised they showed that part. Usually their videos cuts out before the shit hits the fan. They do something totally socially unacceptable. Their video cuts, then they talk about how their game/confidence/sociality/vibe made this …
/r/seduction31/10/17 05:41 PM
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I agree with you. I borrowed it from a friend. I stopped watching after the first couple videos. Its stitched together lectures with barely any cohesion There is no correlation in between videos. There is lack of correlation in between the same parts of a single video.
/r/seduction31/10/17 05:09 AM
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Nope. It needs to be you + her and no other coworker around. You are trying to escalate your relationship while not getting judged by your coworkers. Your coworkers being around will still have its own problems.
/r/seduction30/10/17 06:12 PM
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Have this sub fallen so far, that now we try to learn how to improve ourselves from lyrics? I remember there was one retard who once sent a link to Aladdin movie because it had 20 second cartoon segment where Aladdin said something to Jasmine that could loosely be related to passing shit tests. I am glad that guy turned off (or got banned for life) with his account. Please don't be the next.
/r/seduction30/10/17 05:05 AM
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If you are not happy with the quality of the girls you are fucking then you are wasting your time!! I would much rather open another 8-10, practice, fail, learn something from them, instead of taking a 5 home. Believe me, i fucked my share of 5s and 6s. After each sex, I felt bad about my self. Even more, most 5s and 6s will get clingy after sex. It was a huge hustle to get rid of them after sex (there were tears each time). These days if I open a girl there are one of two reasons. 1 she is a wa…
/r/seduction30/10/17 04:14 AM
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Ahhhhh, FUCK YOU. Redditor for only 14 days. You only posted about how good Evil Stifler is. This is a spam/scam account. I am reporting you.
/r/seduction30/10/17 04:10 AM
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1 second!!!!!!! I agree with all of these go for it suggestions. That being said, do not ask her out!!! Do not say anything that would fall into a dating frame. Instead say something social. Something like, "My friend is having a get together. Why don't you come join us?". Or something like "I am going to see this art show at museum. You would like it." After that, only escalate in the event. Do not escalate at work. This way, if it back-fires you can just say you were being social.
/r/seduction30/10/17 04:00 AM
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I am surprised they showed that part. Usually their videos cuts out before the shit hits the fan. They do something totally socially unacceptable. Their video cuts, then they talk about how their game/confidence/sociality/vibe made this possible and how you can learn the same skills in a 3 day boot-camp. What they don't show you is that, after they cut their video, there was a shit show. I know a guy that claims that he was in the same club when RSD was shooting one of their videos. In the video…
/r/seduction28/10/17 04:28 AM
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Few things that come to top of my mind: They do lots of false advertisement about what their products can deliver. I don't mean over advertise. I mean they have lots of false advertisements. They outright lie to their customers about the quality of their bootcamps or products. They edit their youtube videos and their products in a very deceptive ways. They put their monetary gain on top of the development of their clients. So, they lie to their customers a lot as long as they are making money. S…
/r/seduction28/10/17 04:21 AM
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texting, snapchatting me selfies, inviting me to things, getting lunch together, etc How come you had all these with girls and you did not escalate? Could it be that, you are coming off as a friend? Try to escalate more and create a sexual vibe early on.
/r/seduction28/10/17 12:06 AM
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Directly from Braddock from Love Systems "As you get better at game you will realize beauty is plenty, personality is rare!" I slept with close to 40 girls until now. Opened more than 5k sets. Became friends with 100s of girls. Other than 2, I would never date any of those girls.
/r/seduction26/10/17 10:18 PM
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lol bro I follow his snapchat and he absolutely isn't always having an orgy. He just hangs around bunch of hired models or strippers and none of them ever look like they're hooking up with him, and he always looks like the hoverer trying to look cool. Combine that with the fact that there isn't a single video of him gaming online then I seriously doubt his game. I'm sure he bangs hot chicks just by virtue of being around them all the time, but he has given 0 evidence of PUA skills I agree. This …
/r/seduction25/10/17 06:28 PM
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commenting here, so i can watch later
/r/seduction25/10/17 12:41 AM
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I have also took immersion and boot camp from Luke and everything you said is so true about him lol. He promises a lot, but he will not deliver. Only time I saw Luke in the field was around 4am at the after party gaming at sapphires. Multiple days in immersion where he straight just didn't show up to his own instruction to hang out with Dan B. That said Luke is diff top 5 pua of all time and he really does live that high value social life he talks about so much. I advise everyone to steal everyt…
/r/seduction23/10/17 12:00 AM
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Hey bro, how often do you go out, how often do you talk to girls, how often do you get numbers? What you are talking about happened to me with at least 50 girls. I know mods will delete this post because you broke sub-reddit rules, but I will still try to help you out: She seemed actually really interested in me. I was pretty blatant with her and mentioned how we should go to my place. We ended up just exchanging information. She liked you initially and she thought you were cool. We went met up …
/r/seduction22/10/17 09:36 PM
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Thanks for the clarification.
/r/seduction22/10/17 07:44 AM
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Hey buddy, the long waited answer is......... we don't know :'-( Few things that come to my mind: She is an attention whore, she just wants you to pursue her. She likes you, then she really had problems happen one after another. She likes you so she asks you out when she is drunk, when sober she feels she is being too easy so she changes her mind. She is playing with you The problem is that, you don't know. I made it my rule that I will not chase after women after X many attempts no matter what.…
/r/seduction21/10/17 08:13 AM
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Hey man, first of all. I realized that you have been posting here a lot. It also seems like most of you videos are full of information, not marketing. Eventhough, I do not agree with your style most of the time. Thanks for posting different guidelines here. That being said, the photoshop on your picture for your video is wrong. You photoshopped your Tinder buttons out of the space for your screen. Now, lets get back to tinder. I typed following in another Tinder thread. Tinder was god sent years…
/r/seduction16/10/17 06:54 PM
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Overall, game has 3 parts. Attraction, comfort, seduction. Your body and your 20k followers are attraction. This will make woman think you are something, which is good. But, it is not enough to have sex with woman if you don't have comfort and seduction. Basically: Too much attraction and not enough comfort = problem you are having. Too much comfort and not enough attraction = friend zone Both enough attraction and comfort but no seduction = She always wants to be around you but she won't fuck y…
/r/seduction10/10/17 10:39 PM
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I read lots of posts on here. I usually say start lifting, dress better, join clubs... it sounds like he is doing some of these... He might be one of the few guys who I think should study game.... He needs to learn push and pull, teasing, breaking rapport, leading, etc..
/r/seduction04/10/17 04:06 AM
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I hate to be the asshole doing this, but why are you here? Your post has no specific question. Did you read the side bar? Are you implementing those suggestions in the side bar? Did you get your on-line dating profile evaluated by few female friends? Did you consider getting professional pictures taken of you for your dating profile? How many nights do you go out week for cold approach? How many sets do you open each night? Do you not have time for those? Ok, what are the time constraints you ha…
/r/seduction27/09/17 08:31 PM
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I do not agree with most of the suggestions here... Why you say "I want to kiss you"? What is the purpose behind this sentence? What does this sentence convey in conscious or subconscious communication? I believe you are only saying this because you are not sure if she would kiss you, so you are kind of seeking her approval before you kiss her. In my opinion, you should not say "I want to kiss you". I think you should just go for the kiss when the time is right. Now the question is "When is the …
/r/seduction27/09/17 08:14 PM
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That's the one!
/r/seduction26/09/17 03:56 PM
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vegetarian, and very hipster and introverted A big no-no in my book. I never had success with those types. I think it is lifestyle thing but I see that mostly very active/hippie/hiking/sports guys have success with these girls. decided to quit drinking a couple months I am an alcoholic who is trying to quit drinking as well. On the other hand, 89% of couples had their first sex when they were under the influence. I don't have time to get into too much details, but this is part of evolutionary ps…
/r/seduction25/09/17 06:43 PM
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This! You agree and amplify when it is a tease, banter, shit test, it is coming from a girl. You should stand your ground when you are being verbally or physically assaulted. What this guy did is a verbal assault. You can call him out on that.
/r/seduction23/09/17 07:59 PM
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I believe we need to improve the quality of discussions and material in this sub-reddit. Unfortunately, a Bruce Lee movie, no matter how good it is, is not a seduction/pick-up/inner game/outer game material. So, you got a down-vote from me.. Hopefully, mods will see and remove this.
/r/seduction22/09/17 11:09 PM
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Survival and reproduction are the two most basic blocks of humanity. We all are here because all of our ancestors somehow managed to survive until they could have sex. There is nothing wrong with trying to survive, there is nothing wrong with trying to reproduce.
/r/seduction22/09/17 05:10 PM
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Meal ticket. Obviously. Russians are notorious for this. DO NOT buy this bitch dinner until AFTER you fuck her. Spot on!!! Russian girls are very good at suckering guys to pay for their everything without sleeping with them. I made it my rule to never spend a single cent on a Russian girl until after we had sex.
/r/seduction22/09/17 04:02 AM
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Another friend did a bootcamp with Owen. He said that, he was not impressed with Owen's game. He said Owen either creeped out girls or lost the attention after 10 minutes because he was too high energy and he lacked calibration. Take what I said with grain of salt. I did not personally witness any of the above. I have just been in game long enough to meet lots of people who had chance to meet some of those celebrities.
/r/seduction20/09/17 05:36 AM
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He is an 8, I would say. My point was that, he never tries anything new. So, he is stuck in there. I know what his problem is! He comes of as aggressive while trying to look/act confident. But, since he never tries anything different, he could never figure out what works for him and what doesn't. Basically, he goes out, he scares most girls because he came off aggressive while trying to be confident, he comes home alone and says "I have to be more confident", then he goes out and does the same t…
/r/seduction20/09/17 05:29 AM
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Here is what you will do to fix this problem. You will start a diary. Every night you go out you will make a note of what you tried. You will make a note of one thing that you think you did good. You will make a note of one thing that you think needs improvement. You will do this in the club/on the way back home/in the bus/after you get back to your home, but you will do it the same night. Next day you will do following: Watch some videos or suggestions about what you did wrong the night before.…
/r/seduction20/09/17 12:18 AM
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Watch blue print decoded and some of his old videos. He did say being good looking/working out is useless many times!
/r/seduction20/09/17 12:11 AM
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I have no problem with Owen saying that confidence is important. I also have no problem with some things that he teaches. But, if someone says that working out is useless because of his monetary gain, then he is just leading naive guys to a doom! I have a problem with that.
/r/seduction20/09/17 12:02 AM
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Look at Owen Cook, he's overweight, balding, ginger, short and pasty, but has the best inner game anyone's ever seen in seduction. No no no no no no nonono!!! Please don't!! I typed following in another thread about some delusional RSD customers. But, before we get into that, know this, Owen is not overweight. If anything he is a slim guy. I met some RSD customers that fall into this category. They are naive guys whom are fooled by marketing and delusional dream of getting a 10 only if they keep…
/r/seduction19/09/17 11:31 PM
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Congratulations for that. Despite what this sub-reddit and some PUA companies might tell you, getting muscular, having a good style, grooming well, and having an identity will increase your chances with girls tremendously.
/r/seduction19/09/17 09:18 PM
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2 types of guys will never improve in game. First type is the ones who slack. The ones that go out once in a while try a thing or two, then get back to comfort of their home. The ones that never hit the gym, the ones that never improve their life. The second type are the ones that go out and do the same thing every night. I know few guys like that who went out 4 times a week for over a year. They never achieved any success. One of them went out 5 nights a week for almost 2 years I think. I think…
/r/seduction19/09/17 09:01 PM
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1% of socioeconomics = / = 1% I'm discussing I understood that. I also understood everything else you said. You are still wrong though... You seem obsessed with wrong kind of stuff which will not lead you to success.
/r/seduction19/09/17 02:42 PM
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I think Blue Print Decoded is one of the worst PUA products out there. It is just Tyler/Owen rumbling about lots of non-sense. In last few years, even Tyler/Owen came around and said some of his ideas back then were wrong. For example, in some of his latest videos even he says that looks do matter! I really hate his style and I find him very hard to follow. For me it is almost impossible to dig out the good stuff from the mountain of bullshit that he is spewing out. On the other hand, his latest…
/r/seduction19/09/17 05:32 AM
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Why is it this difficult? For reason #1. Women have a ridiculous amount of options. Even a girl who is a 7 is getting BOMBARDED with attention through Instagram, Facebook, text, etc I once slept in the same bed with a girl who was a somewhat famous ex-model. We slept together, fooled around a bit, but there was no sex no matter what I tried. In the morning I saw her on her phone, asked her what was going on. She showed me her phone. Turns out every morning she wakes up to 20-30 text messages, 20…
/r/seduction18/09/17 09:22 PM
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According to scientific studies, the consumption of a single alcoholic drink, especially red wine will make you more attractive physically. He says that without referencing a single source. So, I would take what he says with grain of salt. That being said, I agree with the author. I think 1-2 drinks can help you relax. On the other hand, getting good with girls will require you to go out 4-5 nights a week for months, sometimes years. That is a lot of 1-2 drinks. I prefer not to have any drinks w…
/r/seduction18/09/17 03:24 PM
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Thanks for uploading this! I think Blue Print Decoded is one of the worst PUA products out there. It is just Tyler/Owen keep rumbling about lots of non-sense. In last few years, even Tyler/Owen came around and said some of his ideas were wrong. For example, in some of his latest videos even he says that looks do matter! I really hate his style and I find him very hard to follow. For me it is almost impossible to dig out the good stuff from the mountain of bullshit that he is spewing out. On the …
/r/seduction18/09/17 03:14 PM
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A bad advise will hurt beginners a lot more than anything else. This video here is a VERY bad. Because beginners will think this is how you do it, then they will go out waste months, trying to make it work. Only to never find success. This video is nothing more than a marketing video for a jump start PUA company/guy. It wont help anyone achieve anything. This is why most people are very critical of it.
/r/seduction12/09/17 12:23 AM
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This number will probably flake (Assuming the girls in the videos are not paid models) FTFY. What he is doing is called flash game. There are books and videos about it. Few important things are: Flash game mostly works for very good looking and charming guys. Flash game mostly works for high energy or high confidence guys. It will lead to highest number of flakes or fake numbers even for those guys. Short/Unattractive/Unconfident guys will have 0 chance with flash game. When I first started lear…
/r/seduction11/09/17 10:39 PM
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If it works for you, then keep using it. For me, it takes too much time with little to no return. So, I don't use it anymore.
/r/seduction03/09/17 04:04 AM
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Tinder was god sent years ago. I had sex with many girls on the first date from Tinder. It has been a hell in the last year or two. In the last 2 years, I only matched with hookers, bots, very very ugly girls who has no chance of meeting guys in any other way. 95% of tinder is your looks. There was a test around a year ago. Guy created 2 fake profiles. 1 was a model. 1 was an average guy. After swiping 1000 girls in each profile. The average guy matched with 14 girls. Only 1 sent a message. If I…
/r/seduction02/09/17 07:15 PM
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If I am not mistaken the first guy to introduce this idea to PUA was Braddock from Love Systems. He did it around 10+ years ago. Back then Tyler was all about that crazy non-sense that he was talking about in his older videos. If what I remember is correct, back then he did not even approve this kind of techniques. It is interesting to see how he just took everyone else's ideas and started selling them as his own.
/r/seduction02/09/17 05:59 AM
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First of all, let me ask you this. Why did you offer free ticket to a girl that you never met? Do you expect this to be a date? If you expect something out of this, you are going to burn really bad in this case. It is very clear this girl is very interested in the ticket, not you. If you are expecting something out of this, you will get very frustrated in the end. Also, offering something in the hopes of trying to get girl is very weak in my opinion.
/r/seduction01/09/17 03:41 PM
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If you really suck, you can do a pua bootcamp This is a very bad advice. I met 10+ virgins who took PUA bootcamp. All of them became very depressed after taking bootcamps. Most people have this idea that you will take a bootcamp, then you will be good with girls. Most PUA companies are pushing this idea that you will be successful with girls immediately after your bootcamp. This is all marketing bullshit. This is far from reality. What usually happens is that. A virgin goes to the bootcamp with …
/r/seduction29/08/17 08:49 PM
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I rarely agree with a blogger about PUA but I have to agree with many this guy says. I had an exposure to RSD culture. To me, most of it was a very good marketing campaign that was taking advantage of naive guys. I will add my points to what the blogger says: Twenty to thirty minutes of carefully cherry picked “value” and an hour worth of “sales pitch”…Not fun! This is absolutely true. I know few people who attended free tour by RSD. They said it was just a marketing seminar where they tried to …
/r/seduction24/08/17 07:36 AM
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Olympics have been around since the time of ancient romans. But, we are still making discoveries, breaking records, coming up with new methodologies for both training and competitions, etc. In last 10 years of PUA, there were lots of charlatans, lots of liars, lots of guys who had an idea but could not teach. I think we are 5% into the discovery of PUA.
/r/seduction23/08/17 09:09 AM
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I am sorry to say this but there is nothing I can tell that will make you successful with that girl. Game has 3 parts: 1- Having right kind of strategy. This is what is usually called outer game. For example when you meet a girl, you have to make her qualify herself, you have to build rapport and break rapport, you have to make sure that she is comfortable, after you succeed in all of this, you start seducing her. This part of the game is easy to learn and hard to execute. This is the overall ma…
/r/seduction20/08/17 08:59 AM
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Do 300 direct approaches in collage if you want to leave collage a virgin. I am serious!! Collages are small. Once the word gets out that you are that guy, you will lose more than half of the girls in collage. Collage game is a social circle game. So work on your social circle, workout, join clubs that has girls and cool guys, etc. Even if you must approach, then do an indirect approach. You are in collage, even something simple like "Hey, that's a nice back-pack" is enough to get the conversati…
/r/seduction20/08/17 07:24 AM
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Good job with both the motivation on your workout and approach!! Also, thanks for being honest with your workout progress! It is nice to see hard work pays off.
/r/seduction20/08/17 07:10 AM
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u/BestSC86 has a very good answer. Another example is Tyler/Owen. In his videos, he calls him self ugly, short, balding. In reality, he is 5'11" very stylish guy wearing very expensive clothing. If you tell people looks matter and hitting the gym and dressing better increases their chances with girls more than taking a 3k a weekend bootcamp then they would just pay 20$ to the gym a month. Or 300$ to a trainer a month. PUAs would not be having any customers. This is why the PUAs go to the extreme…
/r/seduction08/08/17 07:15 PM
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Never my self, but lots of people are posting evidence of videos on youtube that are being fake. Couple examples I remember are the girls bra changes (video was shot on different days), the same girl appears in the back ground in the first video, then she appears in set in another video, a guy in the set was a instagram/facebook friends with the PUA years before the video, etc...
/r/seduction26/06/17 05:22 AM
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I have been in PUA 8 years now. I have seen so many different companies show so many staged videos as marketing. I can not believe this is not staged.
/r/seduction22/06/17 02:57 AM
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Yup, that is what it is. She wants to go but she is insecure. That is normal for most people around this age... That being said, the last message from her was "No take me not him." but op did not reply. Now she feels like shit because she thinks she was begging to go to prom with you. Op if you want to go with this girl, just tell her "We will make the ticket thing work out, lets go together"
/r/seduction25/03/17 02:02 AM
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Well, I am going to say that you are wrong when you say that he does not deserve a women. But you are spot on with few things. First of all, if he does not have the discipline to hit the gym regularly, then he does not have the discipline to practice game! PERIOD! It makes me mad seeing how many guys out there think learning game is easy, where as everything else in the life is hard! This is fucking bullshit. Learning game is one of the hardest things in life!! The second thing is that, 95% of t…
/r/seduction23/03/17 08:45 AM
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Where did you find Mr. M? I did a inner game seminar with him and Braddock back in the day. Both Braddock and Mr. M quit the scene. I wonder if they are back. If so, I would like to do some kind of in person training with Braddock as I heard he was one of the best out there.
/r/seduction24/02/17 06:59 PM
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I will respectfully disagree! Just because there was a popular post about it many years ago does not mean that the issue is settled. In my humble opinion looks matter a lot. Now, do you think I should never mention my opinion because there was a contradicting post about it many years ago and some of the moderators do not agree with my opinion? If so, please go ahead and ban me from the sub... Edit: That being said, your looks can be improved a lot! I myself went from 4 to 9 according to many gir…
/r/seduction24/02/17 04:14 AM
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Yup, There is "I am consciously saying this!" and then there is "Look at this guy, I am already wet!" Most girls have no idea what they want! So what they consciously answer to a question about sex/relationship is irrelevant. This why one of the PUA's in the old days said "Getting a relationship advice from a women is like getting a parenting advice from a kid!". They tell you what they consciously want. But what they consciously want is not what is actually good for you or them.
/r/seduction24/02/17 12:48 AM
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I have a strong hate for people who says that looks don't matter. Or, they say it matters a little. But, I won't go into long arguments here. Instead, this is a question I keep asking to myself "What makes a perfectly fine person, who is trying to improve his live, stop from working out or dressing better?" I met some people with a core belief that looks don't matter. A little bit of a talk with those guys show that, these people have no discipline in their life. They are not motivated to do any…
/r/seduction23/02/17 10:23 PM
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My friend, how is your thin-slice and approach? I met some people who did not get too much success even after going out for years. Few repetitive things I see are following: These guys never take care of their life! They have very unfulfilled life, they never try to improve it. They have this delusional idea that, they can be losers all the time, then go out and do game to get 10s into the bed! They make game their number 1 priority! They are never fun! The game is about having fun! They never e…
/r/seduction20/02/17 08:41 PM
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'tyler durden ugly' That is my problem with his videos as well. He keeps calling himself ugly in his videos but I consider him very good looking. As you said he has a nice face, his clothing is extremely spot on! His thin-slice is very good! When a person points to Tyler/Owen to me and says "Looks don't matter, see Tyler is successful" I lose my mind! I think Tyler constantly calling himself ugly is part of his marketing. If he keeps repeating "Good looking guys will always be more successful", …
/r/seduction20/02/17 08:26 PM
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I see. I don't know anything about Alex, this was my first time seeing a video from him. Good to know!
/r/seduction18/02/17 07:14 PM
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Interesting video, sheds so much light to how RSD works. I was not expecting instructors to make 15k in a single day of training. That is a really good amount of money! Now consider doing a training twice a month, you are set for life after 10 years! I have been in PUA for 8 years now. I get into relationships, then come back when I breakup. So, some of the new guys may not know this but some of the stuff that he said has been known about RSD for a really long while! It is well known, for years …
/r/seduction18/02/17 04:54 AM
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This is not a game, this is not self improvement, this is not seduction. I have no idea what it is doing here. Are you by chance going to high school? I am considering deleting my account (I use this one for PUA). It turns out seddit was overtaken by high schoolers and PUA companies during the break I took. There is almost no good discussion about seduction or self improvement here. This place used to be filled with lots of FRs, lots of "I tried X 100 times and here is how it worked out". I hate…
/r/seduction16/02/17 09:15 PM
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Yup, that is what I am saying.... Instead of spending hours on online gaming. You can just go out and meet hotter girls easier!
/r/seduction16/02/17 06:17 AM
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I don't do online dating anymore. Few PUA instructors I know also hate online dating. During online dating, all of the cards are stacked against the male. The girls have upper hand. A girl that would be 6 in the club becomes 10 because she is getting 1000s of messages from random guys. This causes a problem for even skilled guys. You have to spend hours online to find a girl that is receptive to your messages, then you have to spend hours/days texting back and forth trying to convince her to go …
/r/seduction16/02/17 05:36 AM
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When you start saying NO to your self even before she does, then it is really game over! as /u/farang said, just show up and convince her otherwise.
/r/seduction14/02/17 10:00 PM
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"I build shit that explodes and takes people to sky!" They will get confused "I am a rocket scientist" wink wink (or smile). If this captures their attention then add some more details (but be more serious now). "Yeah, we are actually in the middle off developing this new rocket that will be used by NASA to take their next rover to mars." etc. (But don't break any NDA) If it does not capture their attention, then switch it around and try to make them talk about their job.
/r/seduction14/02/17 04:33 AM
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First of all, you need to understand this all happened with online dating. There were lots of jokes and sexual stuff going on over the text even before we met. That being said, a date is a dance! You need to be able to read your partner and act accordingly. So, there is no "Kiss her at X minute into the date." My fastest kiss was 5 minutes into the date. I had my fastest sex in the world with the same girl somewhere between 30-45 minutes into the date (pulled from Y to home instead of getting to…
/r/seduction13/02/17 09:50 PM
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First of all, OP did a great job! He took the risk and reaped the rewards. 99% of the guys would not do what he did. On the other hand, why he didn't pull is different issue than "I was not in the mood" His ego was very high from the success he had. He, subconsciously, did not want to take bigger risk because it could fail and damage his ego. This showed itself as "I am not in the mood" in his mind so he cold pat himself in the back and say I could pull if I wanted to! If you read books about su…
/r/seduction13/02/17 07:49 PM
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I used to date lots of girls from Tinder/Okc. All of girls agreed to come to my house at the first date. Except 3, I had sex with all of the girls in the first date. I had sex with the 2 on the second date. The 3rd one did not even have sex with me on the 2nd date even after coming to my place for the 2nd time. I never called her again. Here is what I did. Have the date close to your place (walking distance) Tell her, lets check out X but meet at Y. Then move her to X. All of my dates involved d…
/r/seduction13/02/17 07:22 AM
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Lol, I was looking for wings in Las Vegas. This guy sent me a message and told me he had a mobile texting group that was full of wings. I should join to his group etc... I joined his group.. There is no single wing in his group! He uses the group for the sole purpose of promoting his new PUA business and videos. From what I have seen, he is not that skilled in PUA as well. Starting a PUA business became "we are starting a rock band" for the new generation it seems. Everyone has one of these at e…
/r/seduction10/02/17 10:13 PM
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I have been in the game more than 8 years or so. I had more than 20+ lays and few long term relationships here and there. I might be getting close to 30 by now but can't tell for sure since I don't count anymore. I have my friends who I met normally. These guys do not know anything about PUA. They dont know I study and practice PUA. Whenever I see something they are doing wrong, I just tell them it works better for me if I do xyz! That is it! I have friends whom I met through PUA. I never have t…
/r/seduction09/02/17 08:37 AM
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I agree with you 100%. I see some of the suggestions here and I wonder what kind of 16 year old virgin is typing those down.
/r/seduction09/02/17 01:11 AM
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It sounds like you are doing awesome socially. The only thing I add would be random meetups from meetup.com. Whenever I end up with an extra time, i look at the meetups from that day, then I just show up to something interesting that would introduce me to random people. If you want something more structured, then I suggest improv classes as well.
/r/seduction08/02/17 06:02 AM
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Hey buddy, Let me explain it a little bit better. Looks matter a lot!! Anybody who tells you the opposite is a fucking liar or a fucking idiot! But, your looks are not your core! Your looks are your games multiplier. I hate to explain it this way but I could not think any other way. Gamewise, what I say below is very wrong. The game does not work with points like that, but it is very good explain looks. Lets assume there is a very hot girl. To make this girl sleep with you, you need to achieve 9…
/r/seduction07/02/17 09:33 AM
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My apologies my friend but I will stop replying to you. Above I said: Couple guesses are: Those are guesses. All I am saying is that, he fucking has something you lack! This is extremely obvious! Your ego is just too fucking big to see that. Instead you just fight and try to counter each point I make. If you are not willing to listen to suggestions why come here? Why are you trying to counter every point I make without even trying to understand them? From your story, a bad looking guy, who has n…
/r/seduction07/02/17 09:12 AM
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Basically, humans immediately and subconsciously match things they perceive to their previous experience or knowledge. If I am walking around and I see a guy get out of a bentley in a 20k suit in front of a bank. I immediately assume he is a very rich person due to my subconscious. I don't try to think of this guy as some one rich, my subconscious immediately tells me he is rich because he is matching the pattern of what a rich person is (in my brain). If I am walking around and if I see a guy i…
/r/seduction07/02/17 09:00 AM
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Didn't look that way man, seriously. It doesn't feel right. He obviously has something you lack! Couple guesses are: His thin-slice is a lot better than yours. You seemed needy, he was confident He is fun and engaging while doing very minimum. <- This is the right thing to do! You have to make sure the girl invests in you by doing most of the talk. This is a very important concept. You have to keep the frame and make sure the girl does the work. From what you tell me, this guy had spot on game!
/r/seduction07/02/17 08:50 AM
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I got upset more because I got destroyed by someone that should have been my pawn, man. You are a fucking retard! What makes you think "should have been my pawn"? Obviously that guy has the skills you lack. Right now he is balls deep in that hot girl. Instead of observing him and trying to improve your skills, you just come to an online forum and beg for sympathy while calling other guys with skills tools. Sorry but you are the tool here!
/r/seduction07/02/17 08:38 AM
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You didn't humiliate shit! Your other sets did not work as well, it was time to leave the club. You took one last shot before leaving the club! You did not lose anything. You took the shot, you missed it. This is what every smart man would do. Take the shot when you have nothing to lose. You had nothing to lose, so you still took the shot. That is smart as fuck!
/r/seduction07/02/17 08:28 AM
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My friend, why are you upset? What you just described above is called learning process! I know a guy who is 5'7" and balding. He is the only guy I know who is consistently fucking 9s and 10s. He is actually an instructor for one of the PUA companies. Do you wanna know what he told me? He told me that he started PUA around 5 years ago. At the beginning he went out 5 days a week. He made it his mission to open at least 20 sets every day! He did not even have wings back then. He did all this by him…
/r/seduction07/02/17 08:23 AM
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Most of the time you are not paying attention to someone because your mind wanders off to day dreaming. This is very common for people who were not very social some point in their life. I am struggling with this as well. I recently started doing meditation. It helps with constantly being in now. If you did not try meditation before, I suggest you give it a shot. I am using the APP called HeadSpace.
/r/seduction06/02/17 06:41 AM
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35 years old guy is checking in. This guys is right. I started having a huge success with girls as I got older. Most girls like stability and security.
/r/seduction05/02/17 06:19 PM
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And there is nothing wrong with it. An idiot is a person who makes a mistake, doesn't learn from it. So he keeps repeating the same mistake. Normal person makes mistakes and learns from them. A smart person reads about others and learns from their mistakes before he does the same mistake himself. There is nothing wrong with looking at any historical character and learning from him. That being said, I am not fan of 1 liner quotes (or paragraphs). I tried to make them work for me many times. I tri…
/r/seduction04/02/17 12:33 AM
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I might be making a huge mistake here, but wasn't there a video on seddit some time ago which proved you were using amateur actresses for your infield videos? The video showed that the bra of the actress changed couple times. So it was obvious the same day pull was actually shot on different days while the actress had the same dress but different bras. Interestingly, that video proved that you (or someone else if I am making a mistake) were using paid actresses. It left no room for any questions…
/r/seduction03/02/17 02:52 AM
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I dont if she likes you or not. But I can clearly tell you it's girls job to you tell you "NO" if they don't like you. If you tell your self "NO" before you talk to her, then it is game over even before the game starts. On the other hand, be careful with escalating at work. Try to approach socially with things related to work and see how she responds, then you can start taking bolder steps if she is receptive.
/r/seduction02/02/17 06:55 AM
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In other words, practice practice practice
/r/seduction02/02/17 06:52 AM
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I heard about this, but never read any scientific resource about it. I am glad it works for you, but I don't know about it enough to comment. May be you can add more details or share resources?
/r/seduction01/02/17 05:00 AM
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I totally agree with you. I have been looking alternatives to seddit for a while. It seems like there are three groups in this sub right now. High schoolers. I think I see more personal posts from high schoolers in this sub, then the guys who are actually hitting the clubs. PUA company owners/workers. There was a research done on reddit. It made the front page some months ago. It turns out, you can buy 100 upvotes from different bots to your post for as little as 20$. It is extremely obvious tha…
/r/seduction01/02/17 02:07 AM
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Hey buddy, I am reading a psychology book that covers this right now. Let me explain, 80% of what you do and how you feel about your self comes from your subconscious. Although your subconscious has such a huge impact in your life, you are never in control of your subconscious. You subconscious is just the sum of the things you experienced until now. Did you friends always laugh at you when you were kid? Did your parents never give you enough space to act on your own, so you would never have con…
/r/seduction31/01/17 09:19 PM
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Hey buddy, I live in Vegas too. Couple things that I can add. I don't use tinder or OKC in Vegas. I met few girls from OKC in vegas. But, the quality of these girls are low. They expect lots of investment of time. They are looking to settle down! I used to hook up with lots of girls from Tinder. In Vegas I can spend an hour on Tinder. After that, I will match with 5-6 girls, all whom are not very attractive to me. Then, you have to spend hours and hours to make them come and meet you. Even after…
/r/seduction30/01/17 11:04 PM
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This guy is right but there is more to this story I once met a girl. I knew some guys, who are better looking than me, were hitting on her. So, after the deal is sealed I asked her out of curiosity "Why not those guys but me?" She told me she was insecure. She did not know if her hair was right. Or her make up was still good looking. She did not know if I would like to things she cooks, or if I would like the restaurant she wanted to eat. She was scared of making decisions in her life, because s…
/r/seduction29/01/17 06:25 PM
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I was one of the nerdiest people you could ever find. When I was 26 or so, I was invited to a party. Another guys fiancée came to me smiling and told me I should not be shy. Everyone in their house was friendly, etc. After 10 minutes of conversation, she went back to her fiancée and told him I was creeping her out. I clearly heard her say that. I picked up PUA when I was 27. I lost my virginity when I was 28. I am 35 now. I had sex with 20+ girls so far. Last girl I had sex with was 21 (14 years…
/r/seduction27/01/17 11:58 AM
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Thanks for this. I have been trying to make improvements in my anxiety, anger, and insecurities. I am told by few different people online, that mediation helped them a lot and I should give it a try. I just never took the first step. I will download the app mentioned in the video, then I will give it a shot. Thanks.
/r/seduction18/01/17 09:33 PM
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This guy is right! Guys should never ask for a relationship. 95% percent of the time, this will come of as needy/insecure. You just do what you do and keep having sex until she brings up the "talk"! On the other hand, you dont want her to feel distant, so you have to frame the relationship but never ask for anything...
/r/seduction06/01/17 09:53 PM
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I am mid 30s guy. I have been in game close to 8 years... It saddens me to see the average age of this sub has fallen to the high-schoolers and teen agers. There are almost no good quality post in this sub-reddit anymore...
/r/seduction06/01/17 09:04 PM
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I thought it could just be her being about 6 months to a breakup from a 2 year relationship but who really knows, right This is wrong... She is not flaking on you due to this reason. today she texted me some stuff about our shared interests then boom feelings came rushing back in. She was trying to date another guy. It did not work out. Now she is trying to use you to make her feel better again. If you guys were in my shoes, what would you do? You already had 2 dates with this girl. I am assumin…
/r/seduction06/01/17 10:45 AM
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Shit man... Here I was thinking I was getting too old for this sub...
/r/seduction06/01/17 10:29 AM
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My friend, dancing monkey happened to most of us when we first started.. No worries there, now you are conscious about it, you will get out of it... The game is not about fixing 1 big thing. It is about fixing 100 small things. Just keep fixing these! I know it takes time, but the end is rewarding. will it ever be two humans coming together and just appreciating their presence? The girls will accept your presence when you have everything right. Do the right actions at the right time. The game is…
/r/seduction06/01/17 10:16 AM
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Agree with this guy! His wording is not my style but he has the general idea right. You find an activity that you like, also very interesting, then you invite her to there... This is coming from a mid 30s guy, you are at the beginning of your life. I wish I could get back in time, and tell my old self to start lifting, and start joining the social clubs at school. If you are not doing those, then please start doing those. When you are mid 30s, you will come and thank me...
/r/seduction06/01/17 10:10 AM
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There are few things that needs answering here... There is nothing wrong with sticking with one girl at a time. You dont have to force your self to stop liking monogamy. Most guy, including me, like a more intimate relationship, rather than a shallow sex only relationship with multiple girls. So if you like what you are doing, then there is nothing wrong with it. Why do you think this is causing the image of neediness? You need to communicate to the girl that, you have your life, your friends, y…
/r/seduction06/01/17 06:08 AM
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Someone had to say "Never judge a book by a cover" because people do it all the time.
/r/seduction03/01/17 07:38 PM
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Please reread what I said! I did not say looks are the only things that matter. But it makes things 10 times easier whether you are confident or not!
/r/seduction03/01/17 07:14 PM
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Not in 2016 but the biggest thing I learned in game ever was that LOOKS MATTER! My success with girls improved mant times after I started lifting, grooming, getting better hair cut, and dressing well. Each joke became 10 times funnier, each touch became 10 times sexier, etc... If you are serious about game and you are not taking care of your self, then you are doing it wrong.
/r/seduction03/01/17 05:48 AM
1

This is a terrible advise. Approach more is not always the right answer to every question. In some settings approaching more can get you ousted really fast. This is why approach more is a good advice for the night life. But it is a terrible advice for the social circle. Since he is 17. He should worry about improving him self. For him, I would suggest, start working out. Join lots of cool clubs at your school. Find a hobby that both you and the girls might like. He is at the beginning of his lif…
/r/seduction17/12/16 11:12 PM
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Ok my friend, there are different levels in the game and where your social standing is. if you are a beginner and if you are only hitting on girls you will never see again, then you can hit on all of them. But, this situation is different, it is not a night-club. It is a social circle. You don't want to be kicked out of a very beneficial social circle because you were not smooth. Social circle game takes more patience, and smoother moves!
/r/seduction27/11/16 06:39 PM
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Listen to this guy! In a situation like that, you can not be aggressive or flirt-ish with every girl. This will lower your chances with the girl you like and the other girls. First of all, in a setting like that the most important rule is to show some DHV and see which girls are perceptive to you! Half of seduction assumes that you and the girl are alone. Do not try to isolate aggressively. Read the mood of the room. If everyone is playing card games and you are tryign to pull one girl to the be…
/r/seduction26/11/16 11:10 PM
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He is using you for validation and sex when the other girl is not around. That is all you are to him! You are doing the same thing. When he spends time with you, you feel the validation. It makes you think there is finally someone who is into you. This makes you feel happy and not alone. There are few differences in your situation though. Man can have sex and immediately get back to his life. When women have sex, the hormones of your body changes for 2 weeks. You will feel attracted to this guy …
/r/seduction25/11/16 06:22 PM
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I "banged some" a few years back; but unless Ive got hours and hours to shoot out hundreds of messages and get rejected hundreds of times, what's the fucking point? - I recently read a DIFFERENT Tinder article about a few months back; a guy just took a photo of himself with his abs. Looked like a Total Choad. This is the summary of Tinder for most people. This is why I quit it. Earlier on Tinder was golden. I got laid with 7s and 8s no problem. In my last couple months in Tinder it was a disaste…
/r/seduction25/11/16 06:03 PM
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The older generation of game did not like texting when it first when it came out. We are talking about guys like Mystery, who was 30 or so when the texting first started. That generation did not grow up with texts/messages like we did. They did not understand texting, they did not know how to escalate with texting, they did not even know something like "sexting" could become a thing. So they said, don't use texts because it did not work for them. Now everyone repeats what they said without a sin…
/r/seduction25/11/16 11:27 AM
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Yup, this was a classic marketing post with nothing new! I wonder who upvotes these kind of posts?
/r/seduction25/11/16 07:22 AM
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I am one of the first adopters on Tinder. I used to use the same strategy as your buddy when I was using Tinder. This is the way to go. I think I hooked up with 20 or so girls from Tinder. But tinder changed a lot!! It turned from a dating app to next instagram. I know girls, whom are in a very long term relationship and on the way to get married. They still use tinder actively. They have no intention of ever meeting up, or ever replying to anyones messages. But, they just want to see what kind …
/r/seduction25/11/16 06:54 AM
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Tinder is 80% your looks and 20% everything else. Anybody who tells you the other way around is lying. I know few guys who has been in the game for years. They can get very hot girls, mostly 9s-10s, from clubs. But, they all gave up on Tinder saying it is not worth the time and effort. Unless you are a good looking dude, tinder will never payoff your time investment.
/r/seduction25/11/16 06:49 AM
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With all due respect my friend, we are not trying to insult you. What happened to you (or similar things) happened to us. In above comment, I was being sarcastic because you find this experience hilarious, your self. I was asked by a girl to walk 5 blocks where she would we pick me up. After an hour, 5 text messages, and 4 phone calls, I walked those 5 blocks back. And you know what happened after that?? I never let a girl threat me like that. What is bad about your situation is that, you sound …
/r/seduction31/10/16 09:06 PM
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It is hilarious because he was being led on while the girls were having fun.
/r/seduction31/10/16 08:50 PM
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You need to pursue other girls as well as this one. I think this girl likes you but this was more like fun thing with her roommate. They were just having girly fun when inviting you over (nothing insulting, I think). But, they both were involved and they both knew how you would interpret those messages. This was not just a single innocent misunderstanding. Next time make it obvious what you want. You need take the lead and make sure she understands you. Don't let her drag you around like this ag…
/r/seduction31/10/16 08:45 PM
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This made me laugh! But, the more I think about it, the more I realize this is what I did most of the time with netflix and chill.
/r/seduction31/10/16 07:41 AM
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Let me ask a question first. Are you also a quality girl/person? Because, i see lots of hot girls around. I rarely see hot girls that are worth keeping! The ones that are worth keeping are taken. Unlike many PUAs here, I am actually trying find an attractive girl whom I can marry. (Marrying someone I am not attracted to would be a torture for me). I have had sex with some very attractive girls. Unfortunately, I would not marry any of them. Years ago, I met a professional instructor for PUAs. I w…
/r/seduction31/10/16 07:29 AM
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This kind of conversation strategy can work wonders in an environment where you have isolated the girl and the girl already invested in you a lot. On the other hand, if you try this with someone who is not invested in you, or in a club, then they will immediately find you boring and leave you. Do not use this until you are sure the girl is already invested in you.
/r/seduction29/10/16 07:15 PM
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OP please listen to this guy. I am hella drunk so I will say it. I make 6 figures easily. All of my previous dates before I started doing PUA were me buying drinks, taking girls to most expensive restaurants in my city, sometimes paying 500$ for a single dinner for two... I did not get laid at all! At best I was given a kiss then asked to another date.... Girls are attracted to your personality, not what you buy them. You should NEVER EVER EVER EVER try to get girls attention with drinks/restaur…
/r/seduction29/10/16 05:40 AM
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Listen to this guy and delete her number. She was disrespectful to you 4-5 times until now. She likes the idea of having you on the hook while wasting your time. Delete her number now!
/r/seduction29/10/16 12:32 AM
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I dont know what you are talking about... Girls DO like guys with quick witt. There is nothing wrong with a person trying to improve his conversation skills.
/r/seduction26/10/16 08:06 AM
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Hey buddy, First of tall, good job taking steps to improve your life. Not many people has courage to make the changes. Socializing is its own progress. It becomes easier and easier, faster and faster, as you keep doing it. This is what you need to do. You need to start socializing with people and your quick with will come back in time. Important here is the consistency. You have to keep doing it. Improv classes can help you a lot. It will help speed up your progress with your speaking skills. I …
/r/seduction26/10/16 07:58 AM
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i just replied with following in another thread: Hey buddy, I did couple bootcamps in the past. After that, I became friends with couple instructors. I have a mixed view of bootcamps. Here are couple things i learned. Only 2% of bootcamp attendees actually succeed at this. The remaining 98% will quit before even kissing a girl once. Some guys will take another bootcamp in the coming years and repeat this without ever having any success in between. Assuming you have not been going out by your sel…
/r/seduction21/10/16 08:50 PM
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Hey buddy, I did couple bootcamps in the past. After that, I became friends with couple instructors. I have a mixed view of bootcamps. Here are couple things i learned. Only 2% of bootcamp attendees actually succeed at this. The remaining 98% will quit before even kissing a girl once. Some guys will take another bootcamp in the coming years and repeat this without ever having any success in between. Assuming you have not been going out by your self. I strongly suggest you to find a good wingman …
/r/seduction21/10/16 08:45 PM
1

I replied with following to question about RSD immersion, pasting it here to save someone time and money: Hey buddy, I see that nobody replied to you, so I will. I have never joined RSD immersion. I wanted to do it, and I talked with them 3 times on the phone. In the end, i think i got black listed because they did not return my mail the 4th time. But, I live in las vegas so I had a chance to talk with 3 guys who had done immersion in the past. 1 of them said, it was good only for 1 month and ne…
/r/seduction20/10/16 08:55 PM
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Yup, you don't ask a girl out saying "Would you go out with me". You always mention an activity that you can do together. Lets grab a coffee sometime, lets go hiking sometime, lets go xxxxxxx I think in /u/DM45 case, his ego is scared of the rejection, this is why he is dragging his feet when it comes to asking out.
/r/seduction20/10/16 08:53 PM
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FTFY: The infields are just for demonstration marketing purposes
/r/seduction20/10/16 08:41 PM
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This guy is right. Most are paid amateur actresses. In other cases, they shoot the same approach 30-40 times. Then, only release the 1 time it worked after 40 failures. Please do not take the infield videos that seriously! 99% of the time, they are not telling the whole story.
/r/seduction20/10/16 08:40 PM
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Hey buddy, I see that nobody replied to you, so I will. I have never joined RSD immersion. I wanted to do it, and I talked with them 3 times on the phone. In the end, i think i got black listed because they did not return my mail the 4th time. But, I live in las vegas so I had a chance to talk with 3 guys who had done immersion in the past. 1 of them said, it was good only for 1 month and never do it for more than a month, the other 2 said it was waste of money. They listed few problems with the…
/r/seduction18/10/16 06:45 AM
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I sent you a PM as well. if you need a wing in Vegas let me know.
/r/seduction17/10/16 10:01 PM
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Hey buddy, I recently moved to Vegas my self. I am looking for wings around the area. Let me know if you are interested. We can exchange numbers and start hanging out together.
/r/seduction17/10/16 09:59 PM
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I think you are only having friendly chats with girls, this is why it is so hard for you to make a move. You need to isolate the girl (be alone with her somewhere), then sexualize the situation by touching and talking about sex/etc.
/r/seduction07/10/16 04:55 PM
2

Unfortunately, this sub is turning into a place for PUA marketing. So many charlatans are using this sub to get so many people to buy their products. In addition to making money from youtube views.
/r/seduction20/09/16 12:21 AM
1

I made couple changes to my post and replied to shouldidofjust.
/r/seduction25/08/16 10:14 PM
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I like your RPG analogy. On the other hand, please know that your "Exception" happens 1 in 1000. OP is definitely a beginner. There is no way he could pull this off. So it is better not to mention it to someone who cant pull it off. It will only confuse him. What you are doing is giving a Formula 1 race car to someone who is learning how to drive. It is true that Formula 1 car might be the best car in the world but he does not have the skills to drive it. He will just kill himself. OP, i have fe…
/r/seduction25/08/16 10:13 PM
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Believe me when I say this! Collage game is 75% social game! You have to keep increasing your social circle as much as you can, then you will have the easiest time getting girls. Work out at least 4 times a week. Most collages have free gym classes for students. Learn how to lift properly. Also, do some cardio sports (possibly Martial Arts or Yoga) . (You will thank me later!) Join many different clubs where you can meet girls. Be social in your classes/clubs/etc. Stop playing computer games. Yo…
/r/seduction25/08/16 06:48 AM
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This was/is a tricky point for me! You see, I could be friends with girls, even the ones I wanted to fuck... But, my friendliness/genuineness caused me to be friends with girls more often than being the guy they wanted to fuck. I hated that, I was friends with a very hot girl who, self admittedly, fucked more than 300 guys... Except me! I know my approach to the problem is not right, but I am happier when I am not friends with girls that I am interested it. If I am attracted to a girl, I will tr…
/r/seduction25/08/16 06:45 AM
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I am pretty sure few PUA guys/companies are using bots/paid workers to boost their posts to front page. It is obvious most parts of Reddit and this subreddit are turning in to new marketing place. Instead of seeing advertisement on TV, we see posts/AMAs on reddit.
/r/seduction25/08/16 06:37 AM
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This guy is right. There are few things I will add. Lots of people joined tinder and started swiping right with no intention of ever meeting. Because Tinder is so easy to set up. You dont have to do anything to have tinder profile. Facebook account and 10 clicks, boom, you are in... I know many girls and guys whom are already in a long term relationship but they use tinder. They have no intention of meeting any guys or girls from tinder. They just see how many people like them and show off to th…
/r/seduction22/08/16 08:34 AM
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I don't know liking the 15 years old girls picture. I can only comment on the age difference. When I was 29, I dated a 21 years old. It was the best relationship of my life. We dated for 5 years. She wanted to get married and I hesitated. In the end we did not get married and I kind of regret it. Since then, i had sex with 10 or so women but I could not find anybody that I could connect as much. The purpose of PUA is not always to bang hot chicks. Fuck the world etc. Sometimes it is about findin…
/r/seduction25/07/16 08:16 PM
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I created a similar topic here couple weeks ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/4f33bp/what_happened_to_pua_scene_and_this_subreddit/ I also stopped commenting here for the most part. The problem is the herd/hive mentality when bad advice is upvoted and good advice, that works, is down voted or some times insulted because it does not follow the herd/hive. Some people like mental masturbation with fake self image. This place became a place for insecure man to daydream and feel good a…
/r/seduction29/04/16 05:27 AM
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I think it is about the vibe. I don't like him but there was a similar stuff from one of the other PUA guys (I forgot his name). He walks up to girls and says something like "Let's have sex tonight" with different vibes, different voice, different body language. You could see some vibe made girls laugh while others made them very offended. This is in no way a beginner stuff though, so beginners should refrain from telling girls to have sex as the first thing for now.
/r/seduction18/04/16 03:11 AM
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Thanks for posting this video. It help a lot understanding the dynamics behind the game. Also, you are right about the other stuff as well. Side note: Fuck man, Owen can really do the whiny little insecure girl voice perfectly.
/r/seduction18/04/16 03:07 AM
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I agree. I don't know if it is a girl or guy, but it definitely sounds like a troll!
/r/seduction18/04/16 01:50 AM
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Failing normal stuff while trying to improve your self is normal. Failing while doing very creepy or outlandish things for marketing purpose is not normal but could be understood. People taking those creepy and outlandish stuff as a rule of the game and repeating them in real life is not normal.
/r/seduction18/04/16 01:42 AM
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Julien got into lots of legal trouble all over the world. Blindly follow his word, you will end up in the same situation.
/r/seduction17/04/16 09:02 PM
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I know for a fact that some of those videos are taken after 10-15 failures. They try the same thing in 10-15 sets where it mostly fails. Then they find one set where everything is great. Then, that video is uploaded as a marketing tool. It is not there to teach you something, it is there to make you buy their product. Because, you see how invincible or perfect that guy is. People take those marketing videos too seriously. I saw some of the experts from those videos in field first hand. I know fo…
/r/seduction17/04/16 08:43 PM
1

Makes sense. Thanks.
/r/seduction16/04/16 10:40 PM
0

Check my post story. I have bee back 2 days and I am commenting here and there. But, I have been out of touch with this thing for a while and it will take me a little bit longer to catch up. It is not a complaint but what I observe.
/r/seduction16/04/16 09:58 PM
2

Could you please cite a one scientific resource for what you said? I did not see any studies about AA but I have seen some studies about social anxiety. The social anxiety comes from associating the unknown result of an action with previous bad past experience. For example, you do something stupid in front of your family/friends. Instead of encouraging you to discover on your own, your family/friends make you feel bad about it. This in turn becomes anxiety in time, where you subconsciously start…
/r/seduction16/04/16 08:19 AM
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It seems like your frame is wrong. You told her you will keep trying to kiss. Now, she has a frame that she should keep refusing your advances. This is not a good frame. You need to change this to a situation where you frame it like she is the one that wants you to kiss her.
/r/seduction16/04/16 05:32 AM
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Downvoted you. Not because what you said is wrong. But, because this is a place for people to learn how to achieve those things. Your post does not share any knowledge. It just reeks like a cheap copy paste from one of those speech sites.
/r/seduction16/04/16 02:35 AM
1

You need to understand conversations happen in steps. One step leads to the next, then to the next one, then to the next. If your conversation goes: - Hey how are you? Have you ever had sex? Then this is very awkward. Your intention is to have sex, so you have to bring the topic to sex eventually. You need to start a normal conversation, and keep taking small steps while measuring her reaction. If she starts to get uncomfortable, then you need to take a step back. So dont go from none to sex in …
/r/seduction15/04/16 08:21 PM
1

LMR is usually a symptom of something you have not done right earlier. In most cases, you could not build enough sexual attraction. She needs to want you, so she would stop showing LMR. She needs to know you are a sexual guy, you can have other girls. Try to increase the sexual stuff a little bit before you bring them to bed.
/r/seduction15/04/16 08:12 PM
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Yup, No always means no! Everything else you said is also true about this guys situation.
/r/seduction15/04/16 12:38 AM
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You will hear lots of people saying good or bad. The moral of the story is that, those prices are defined by supply and demand. People pay it, so the company sets it. I have seen some RSD instructors in the field and I saw some of their videos. I do not think their products are worth 3k. But, some people out there think they are worth 3k for 3 nights. So they pay it.
/r/seduction14/04/16 10:35 PM
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I did not read the whole thing. From what I read, he has couple of good but very rare suggestions here and there. Even more, most of his suggestions are repeated many times by most of other experts on the topic. My problem with this is that, most of what I read is pure marketing BS. He sets the stage that there is a very lonely CS guy (his customer), then after few steps that CS guy cant date anymore because he is already too busy dating hottest girls on the planet. The only reason for this "CS …
/r/seduction14/04/16 09:27 PM
1

There was a research which showed that if something was 90% good and 10% bad then every person will keep focusing on the 10% bad. So, you see others 90% good. For your self, you see your 10% bad. This is the same thing. It happens to me. Whenever it happens, I tell my self, i did better than i realize. It is normal. This is nothing that should discourage me.
/r/seduction12/07/14 11:39 PM
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THIS!!! When a girl tells you she has a boyfriend she is saying one of the two things; 1- She has a boy friend. 2- She does not like you so far. She is politely telling you to fuck off. Pushing more after she tells you she has a boy friend is almost always a bad idea...
/r/seduction30/05/14 10:45 PM
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Hi, I totally agree. This was written by mark manson. The guy that started his own PUA company 2 years after he first learned about game. Basically, according to his own words, he was this nobody that could never get laid. He picked up The Game, 2 years after that, he had his own PUA company. The PUA field and boot camps became a multimillion businesses. So please watch out whom are you listening to...
/r/seduction29/05/13 07:33 AM
2

good video thanks
/r/seduction24/01/13 07:59 PM
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I love you, no homo. This is the solid summary of all of the ideas behind seduction. thanks for doing it.
/r/seduction01/11/12 01:39 AM
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No... It is just that when i look at him, I don't see anything related to my self. I also do not enjoy his over assertive body language. Edit: In his new videos he toned it down. In my opinion game has to be smooth. When i look at Owen i dont see a smooth gamer. I did not read the game, i also do not know anything about Owen's past. My opinion has nothing to do with this past.
/r/seduction30/10/12 02:11 AM
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I agree with you. Owen used to creep me out. He recently changed his style, his vibe, and his view on the GAME. He used to say that the looks did not matter, the money you are making did not matter, the society you were in did not matter. Only thing that mattered was your inner game. I consider this to be a total BS and this pretty much made me hate Owen and RSD for life. Recently he changed his view from "those things do not matter" to "those things do not matter for me". Since his game is that…
/r/seduction29/10/12 11:01 PM
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I was in a similar situation a little while ago. Unfortunately, all those just be confident in your self suggestions did not work for me. I talked louder, i pulled my solders back, etc but i still felt empty. Then, i realized confidence comes from previous success in anything. Go out, find things you like to do, challenge your self to do better, improve your results, then be confident about it without bragging too much. You can still brag about it a little bit but dont go around bitching about i…
/r/seduction24/10/12 06:45 PM
1

Hi, One time i went out with my friends to have fun. I had a very strong eye contact with one of the hot girls for 10 seconds then I went back to talking with my friends. (one of my friends was leaving for good so i wanted to focus on him). Next thing i know is that she was dancing right next to me. Around 30 seconds after that, her friend accidentally pushed her on/over me (she almost fell). If a direct approach is a little bit intimidating for you then i think you can try the same.
/r/seduction17/05/12 12:56 AM
1

Thanks man. I appreciate the answers.
/r/seduction25/04/12 07:59 PM
4

Yes good summary. Unfortunately, this has been my sticky point for a while. I tried too hard not to be a nice guy, i ended up coming as a dick. I just realized I was being a dick recently so working on it to fix it. It is kind of hard to find the balance between not being a nice guy and not being a dick...
/r/seduction19/02/12 12:34 AM
1

I like lovesystems. They have a good potential to become a great PUA company. On the other hand, i keep running into cheap marketing tricks and gimmicks from them all the time...
/r/seduction17/02/12 01:08 AM
2

Thanks for doing this. I have few questions: Do you think that it was worth your money? How much do you think your game has improved by taking the bootcamp? Comparing Reddit to bootcamp, did you feel that the boot camp presented very high value material? Or was it like repeating of reddit or free material? Was their approach to PUA a lot different than reddit? Thanks again for your time.
/r/seduction15/02/12 10:28 PM
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Thanks for doing this. I have few questions: Do you think that it was worth your money? How much do you think your game has improved by taking the bootcamp? Comparing Reddit to bootcamp, did you feel that the boot camp presented very high value material? Or was it like repeating of reddit or free material? Was their approach to PUA a lot different than reddit? Thanks again for your time.
/r/seduction15/02/12 10:27 PM
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Thank you so much for your reply. I would rather ask questions to a student to get his perspective on the topic. Again, thanks for your time.
/r/seduction15/02/12 07:17 AM
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