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There's a lot of room between homeless addict and beige suburbia. I know plenty of people who have their shit together and still live really fun, exciting lives
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 07:26 AM
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Gender swap this and see the guys commiserating with him about his fun, spontaneous wife who turned into a beige shut in. Or his slutty, adventurous wife who lost her sex drive after kids. It's the same situation. She married someone who was fun and exciting, and he changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 07:22 AM
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What kind of women are you choosing to date? Gross
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 03:15 PM
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Lol yeah, they're totally wasting their early 20s banging a movie star on yacht when they could be banging a loser in his dorm room
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:12 AM
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Sure, but poor social skills will always make people uncomfortable, which was my point
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 02:21 AM
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Improving yourself to get a thing that you want, is still improving yourself for you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:44 PM
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Yeah I have a workmate who is a classic example. He's tall, athletic, hot face, great job, all round attractive guy. But he's on the spectrum and just... Weird. He has always struggled with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:24 PM
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Ok that makes more sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:21 PM
4

Yeah. I used to date this guy I was obsessed with, but was definitely not pretty. I'd show my friends pics and they'd be like wtf are you doing? Then they'd meet him in person and go ohhhhhh I GET it. He was painfully cool and cocky and funny and I was super attracted to him despite the looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 10:22 PM
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I don't believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 10:19 PM
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No. Social skills and looks are different things. I know ugly guys who are great socially and everyone loves them. I know good looking guys who are autistic and put everyone off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 10:08 PM
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No one is getting a restraining order because a socially awkward guy made them uncomfortable. Do you actually believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 09:52 PM
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Making people uncomfortable is the definition of poor social skills, so yeah you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 09:50 PM
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desire for a guy who's dominant, aggressive, and willing to get violent in a split second in self defense while also wanting that guy to be sensitive, sweet, and egalitarian with her Sounds just like my SO. We're not egalitarian, but no woman really wants that anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:35 AM
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You never see a man walk towards a woman dating a rich guy and call her a gold digger. Lollll
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:20 AM
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What else could it possibly be? You can't see anything but looks on OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:25 PM
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The fact that this is seen as a solution and not a horrific dystopia is so sad lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:18 AM
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Where is she from?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 09:35 PM
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18, left for college
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 09:34 PM
3

Men who are successful with dating > women > men who are not successful with dating
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 09:23 PM
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Christian countries that practice honour killings today
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:50 AM
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I think this is my fave fave from that era. Quality is shit compared to some of their other stuff but I always go back to it https://open.spotify.com/track/30exhxCGyjVgY8U03ocwxX
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 03:04 AM
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So good!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:37 AM
3

JAMC are great. If you haven't heard them before though maybe start with psychocandy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 01:12 AM
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No answer huh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 11:46 PM
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Ooh. Also 87. Jesus and Mary Chain - Darklands Dinosaur Jr - you're living all over me Depeche mode - music for the masses Sonic youth - sister
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 11:41 PM
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That doesn't sound particularly healthy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 01:51 PM
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High school
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 12:12 PM
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What's the difference? Do women trick men into being a BB, or did they always know the toxic guys aren't fit to be husbands/fathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:39 AM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:42 AM
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There's a couple who are a bit like that, but generally I find them pretty normal. In general the guys are FAR more angry and hateful
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:34 AM
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More than the incels? You must be blind lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:30 AM
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Most of the women here are married or LTRd. I don't see bitterness from them like I do with the incel blackpill types
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:27 AM
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You think men here are an accurate sample of regular men in the real world? Men end up here because they're awkward and struggle with basic intersexual dynamics. Regular men do not carry this level of bitterness around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:06 AM
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My SO exclusively dated stripper porn star types when he was young. Fake tits, tattoos, all really fun and really volatile. He eventually learnt that these types come with drama that wasn't worth it, and his type shifted. He grew up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 01:55 AM
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Yes. People tend to learn more about what makes them happy as they grow up. If they're smart, that's what they'll pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 01:07 AM
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Women like masculine men, and that often crosses over with the "negative" masculine traits
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 12:50 AM
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Ohh wait, yeah I was thinking "talking to" as in the way young people use it. Like "I'm talking to this guy, we're texting" before they actually hook up. You meant literally talking in person. Yeah I realised I wanted to meet up with him again because he was fun and flirty and I was having a good time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 12:02 AM
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He did
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:45 PM
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This is a really weird way of looking at it. We talked for an hour because we were both having a good time, not because he was using it as a tactic to get a date. He's just an outgoing person who talks a lot so it comes naturally. He gets into long convos with strangers all the time, with no intention at all of dating them. We mainly talked about music and the area I was living at the time, but that's not really the point. The conversation was just a vehicle to connect and laugh and flirt, we co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:28 PM
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Calling it a standard is weird. Talking for an hour with someone you like is nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 05:48 PM
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We talked for about an hour You asked what made me want to meet up as opposed to just talking. I wouldn't have been talking if I didn't want to meet up
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:23 PM
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Yep, that's how I met my SO. I was in a shop, he flirted. He was funny and cocky and brazen in a way that caught me completely off guard. We talked and flirted and I was having fun, so when he told me he was going to be in my neighborhood that weekend and we should get a drink I agreed. I don't understand why you'd be "talking" to a guy you didn't want to pursue anything with so that question doesn't make sense to me. I gave him my number because I wanted to see him again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:57 PM
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A boner is gross because it's advertising that he's horny. It's not equivalent to a bikini at all. Do you guys ever actually think before you come up with these retarded takes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:52 PM
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Yeah I work with a lot of men and the egos are insane. Constantly getting in the way of work getting done. The girls have learnt how to pump a guy's ego just enough that he does his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:38 PM
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Your post amounts to "I hate women, CMV". Boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:46 AM
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Which Christian countries practice honour killings today?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 07:10 AM
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So? Of the countries that do practice honour killings they are ALL muslim
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:52 AM
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Honour killings don't happen in first world countries Because first world countries aren't Muslim lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:35 PM
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Yes, because they weren't terminally online porn addled recluses before.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 06:09 AM
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You're just confirming what I said. Not wanting to be approached is not a rape accusation. Men are just afraid of rejection, so they use the rape allegation thing as an excuse to not even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:59 AM
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I know a lot of gay people
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:11 PM
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men and women are different creatures with different priorities. men are always going to wish women were horny and indiscriminate with sex, and women are always going to wish men were monogamous and romantic. two men coming together are on the same page and will happily do all the depraved sexual shit they can think of. two women coming together will cuddle and talk endlessly about their feelings and spend all weekend at the farmer's market. gays of both sexes get to avoid all of the discord tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:37 PM
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In the real world absolutely no one is crying rape if she hooks up while a bit tipsy. Like others said, they're talking about these cases where the girl is blackout drunk and a guy has his way with her. The guys on this sub just use the consent thing as an excuse to avoid socializing and talking to normal women in normal scenarios. They don't actually believe the girl will cry rape, they're just terrified of experiencing social discomfort or rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:09 PM
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He should date a prude or get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:34 AM
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No they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:29 AM
1

Anything that involves tools or spiders is his job
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:32 AM
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What kind of a "bad boy" is doing skincare and fancy haircuts and nothing illegal?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:29 AM
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not if you're repulsive to look at, but for a regular guy, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:36 PM
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The new members here don't understand that being "RP" has more nuance than simply hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:43 PM
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I did!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:27 PM
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Lol I'm literally in the nail salon right now and my SO made fun of me for wasting money
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:05 AM
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It sounds very different using it as an adjective vs a noun. No one cares about "my female friend", it's different to "why do females do x"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:54 AM
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Why do you guys all expect attraction to be rational lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:51 AM
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Men can handle helpless crying from a woman because vulnerability is feminine. Watch men get their version of the ick when they see ugly masculine rage from their woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:48 AM
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Why would men know?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:32 PM
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I wouldn't date anyone inexperienced or with any kind of purity-style hang ups around sex. Also no porn addicts. Just people with normal, active sex drives and lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 11:59 AM
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Yep pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 11:50 AM
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mr clean lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:00 AM
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i have a great relationship with my dad who was always clean shaven. i love bearded men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:56 AM
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my SO is balding, i couldn't care less. i think he actually looks better shaved than the younger pics i've seen of him with hair. if he's fit and masculine and has a good jawline, i find bald guys really hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:54 AM
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i'm so bored of hearing about the vaccine. i don't care one way or another as long as it's not a thing they go on and on about (for or against).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:49 AM
1

Ok sure cupcakes and love notes are what masculine men want lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:13 AM
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I'm not talking about aggression or passion, that's a big part of vanilla sex for me. I'm talking about the whips and chains and the anal and the orgies and so on. The theatrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:43 PM
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He was really forward and funny and hit on me in a way that was completely inappropriate for the setting. He caught me off guard so I didn't go with it, but spent the next couple of months trying to run into him again. It was his attitude, his style and how he made me feel that had me obsessing over him initially.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:30 PM
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Well yeah I've always ended up with men with a similar view of sex to me. They're all experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:22 PM
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I know enough, they're universally gross
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:21 PM
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Where did I say cooking a meal with/for a man is feminine? I think you're responding to the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:20 AM
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Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:19 AM
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Are they hand decorating a box and attaching a love note?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:19 AM
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Do masculine chefs wrap up their cupcakes in hand decorated boxes with a love note?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:18 AM
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I think there is nothing more saddening than someone dying before getting to live out their deepest kink/sexual fantasy. Lol seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:10 AM
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From a woman's perspective - when I'm really, really into a man all those theatrics just distract from sex rather than adding to it. I'm in my mid 30s and the best sex I've had is the vanilla sex I'm having with a man I'm madly in love with. When the sex is actually good, there is zero desire to compensate with the kinky stuff. Think about the swinger/bdsm/fetish scenes. They're all hideous. They're not able to get people who arouse them naturally, so they add this layer of kinky shit to try and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:04 AM
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be bold and forward and flirtatious. it seems most young men are allergic to talking to women IRL these days. knowing how to do this will automatically put you in the running.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:24 AM
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flirt from the get go. don't be cheesy or romantic, but a a smirk, a cheeky comment, holding her gaze a little too long - these are the things that make me see a guy as an option rather than a friend. make it clear you're a man with a sex drive and see how it goes. once she sees you as a friend (aka a nonsexual being), you're verrrry unlikely to change her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:21 AM
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i'm a woman. i don't want to date a man who acts like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:28 AM
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Yeah most women want to date men though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:12 AM
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I said food is fine. That's not what your post is talking about though. The decorated box and the surprises and the picnics and love notes and so on are all extremely feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:39 AM
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it's all extremely feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:56 AM
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But poppy don't you care about the constitution
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:04 AM
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Give him food, sure. I guarantee you that most men could not care less if it was in a hand decorated box or even hand made. Doing something thoughtful involves thinking about what the receiver would like. You're thinking about what would make you as a woman feel loved and projecting that on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:02 AM
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This is straight up solipsism. I can't talk for the guys here who all apparently wish they were women, but regular men don't want to be courted with picnics and love letters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 02:19 AM
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no they don't, and it's not irrelevant at all. it doesn't make sense to want something because it will get you something you'd no longer want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:26 AM
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if you were a woman you wouldn't want to fuck 10 guys in a weekend though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:04 AM
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How does that have anything to do with just world lol. I didn't say he's a good person, I said he's cool. Girls are turned on by guys who are cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:11 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:59 AM
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yes, being in love blinds you to a lot of stuff you otherwise wouldn't put up with
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:43 AM
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he fucks because he's cool and fun and not an angry autist
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:34 AM
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no, the difference is being a neurotic autist
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:33 AM
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are you speaking from experience or theoretically?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:02 AM
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Wait so is it about how she acts or what she thinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:56 AM
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Are you saying people shouldn't get together unless they believe their partner is literally the hottest person alive?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:50 AM
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No, they get analytical because they're autistic and neurotic and that's just how their brains work. You don't have to feel anything for women to be successful with them. I agree. Actively hating and obsessing over them is the opposite of not feeling anything for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:24 AM
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Yeah there's a big difference between being sexist and hating women though. My SO is honestly kind of like this lol, his views on women are super RP (old school RP, not blackpill). He doesn't hate women, he just thinks we're cute and kinda useless. He doesn't take them seriously, has his own thing going on, and women have always found that hot. A guy like this doesn't end up on the internet analyzing and writing screeds about how horrible those bitches are. And then there's these guys who active…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:01 AM
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Difference is that incels want a woman to fuck them, women want nothing to do with incels
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:15 PM
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Are you serious? The guys here absolutely despise women. If they think that doesn't come across immediately to women as creepy and gross they're insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:41 PM
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Maybe that has changed with Gen Z. It's been awhile since I've been to a gayborhood. And I think it's definitely changed with gen Z. This whole fluid queer thing has diluted it all - it's fashionable to be queer now so any hint of gender/sexual nonconformity is amplified and advertised. Strangely regressive at the same time. Anyone who doesn't fit into a very strict set of gender norms is now trans or nonbinary. Gone are the days of the proud tomboy or Nancy boy, I think it's sad! I live right i…
/r/RedPillWives12/08/22 08:44 PM
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I've had a Google but can't seem to find it. I think it might have been in Sex, Art and American Culture. The crux of it though was that in order to become a man, a boy needs to reject and turn away from his mother and find his own place in the world. Like a coming of age that only other men can validate. Some effeminate men cling too hard to their (real or metaphorical/Freudian) mother and end up as the clingy, useless husbands that need to be cared for and coddled by their wives. In RP terms t…
/r/RedPillWives12/08/22 08:34 PM
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I don't do "activities", I'm not a child. Just take me out for a drink. Calling it a date sounds dorky.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:52 AM
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If your kid is getting bullied, they need to learn how to respond to bullying. It sucks, but it's better than letting them turn into a stunted recluse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:45 PM
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I do know some lesbians, but I think actual "born that way" lesbians are far more rare than actual gay men. I see some proper dykes and am like, yep, you were never going to be into men haha, but they're the minority. For the most part, there almost always seems to be some reason for a woman's homosexuality, like bad experiences with men or just a straight up dislike for them. I have a self identified lesbian friend who was repeatedly raped as a child, and she's confided in me that if her abuser…
/r/RedPillWives11/08/22 11:29 PM
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I'd argue that NOT socializing your kids is abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:02 PM
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Sure, but there are things you can do to make your depression more or less manageable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:42 PM
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No, never, when I went to a Catholic high school
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:37 PM
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A big city
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:35 PM
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Yeah, I get it, kids are cruel to awkward kids and it sucks for them. But these are not children we're talking to on PPD. They're teenagers and grown men who are choosing to avoid reality and then complain about it. But then I'm also the type to tell a depressed person, with love, to go outside. Those first steps are hard, but wallowing is just making things worse. We just need to do the hard thing sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:08 PM
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Nah those aren't the types I know. All atheist, mostly child free. Professional artist/gallery owner/academic types.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:04 PM
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Guys who keep asking this question are really calling themselves out. I'm sorry that the only women you can attract are such trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:54 PM
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I have some friends of friends who are into it and I went to a single swinger party when I was young and curious. It was weird and cringe. The crowd was mainly 30s and 40s well-off alternative/bohemian types who were obviously very bored in their marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:53 PM
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No, I'm saying that in the past the weird/abused kid had a bit of grit and learnt to be more normal aka less lonely. Not every single one obviously, but a LOT more were able to get out of that weird hole before they had the internet to run to
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:48 PM
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The arguments that go on here make so much more sense when you realize these guys equate learning to socialize with physical beatings They are severely socially stunted, like to the point of being disabled by it, but refuse to believe that this is affecting how girls view them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:43 PM
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Watching the responses roll in from these guys actually clears up so much. They've fully adopted this helpless victim mentality and just given up entirely on coming back into the real world. They claim to hate feminism but use the exact same arguments and language. My little brother was bullied ruthlessly when he was a kid, it was horrible. If he'd been given the option, he never would have left his room. But my parents forced him into sports and social things and he eventually learnt how to act…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:36 PM
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Yes I'm aware bullying sucks and I understand why they do it. Retreating feels better than facing it head on. I get that. I'm saying that it's not a good choice for the long term. If they want to find community and love then they need to go through the pain of social learning and get better at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:48 PM
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Socializing your kids is a little different to beating them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:17 PM
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I'm taken
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:50 PM
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This thread is about how male loneliness is increasing, and more and more men are struggling to connect with women. If you don't think that's the case, then we're not even talking about the same topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:44 PM
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Did you watch the promo video? Free for women, men have to pay. Seems they're trying to balance it out a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:41 PM
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So why could men do it right up until the internet became widespread? I'm not saying it isn't difficult or painful. I'm saying it is possible, and that avoiding the pain of the real world in favor of the internet is preventing them from the long term success.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:36 PM
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Giving up is a death sentence, yes. And retreating to the internet is giving up. I said up thread about how I grew up around awkward weird kids, and they were all able to learn the skills they need to be accepted by society. It was uncomfortable for them, but they did. Why can't men do this now? Hint: they're retreating to the internet instead of going through the pain of learning to properly socialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:35 PM
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Yeah. It's so weird to frame this as not appreciating beauty. Some beauty is niche and requires very specific knowledge to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:32 PM
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Yeah you're all completely fucked lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:31 PM
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Why would anyone get into a relationship that doesn't benefit them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:27 PM
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It's not that they don't respond to talent or beauty, it's that most people don't have the hyper-specific cultural knowledge to identify a world class violinist from a regular subway busking violinist. If you want your value to be appreciated, it's your responsibility to present it in a way that your target audience understands.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:20 PM
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Right. And men were capable of contending with reality up until recently. What has changed? Why are men suddenly so useless?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:17 PM
0

Well this post has been really enlightening for me. I didn't realize just how far down the helpless victim hole the guys here are, but everything else makes a lot more sense now. Cheers
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:41 PM
1

I don't like gamers no
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:07 PM
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When their whole post history is on video game subs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:06 AM
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Yep ok you're right, everything's hopeless and trying is pointless and you should just give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:41 AM
2

Yes ok you're right best to just give up
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:40 AM
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People still meet in person. Just because a girl is on tinder doesn't mean she's off the market in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:12 AM
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I don't believe your looks are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:08 AM
3

No one needs to go on dating apps if they don't want to
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:06 AM
1

It's both. Dressing slutty gets you more attention than not dressing slutty. If you're curvy, you have a more conservative cut-off for when an outfit starts attracting attention. My boss is a tiny Asian woman with zero curve. She can wear a spaghetti strap top and a red lip to the office and somehow look professional. I'm tall and blonde and built like Scarlet Johansson. If I dressed the same I'd look like a hooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:00 AM
-2

Whatever dude. You're too far deep. It's just wild to see guys come out and argue about how they're helpless victims. This is repulsive to women. This is why you're struggling. Not because standards have changed. It's because you're all acting like weak little girls and waiting for someone to save you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:53 AM
1

Lol my guy complains when I dress too modestly. He knows I'm his, he likes having something worth looking at on his arm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:46 AM
1

I'm not saying they have it easy. I'm saying that awkward people existed before the internet, and without that crutch they were forced to make it work another way. They learnt to be funny, to read social cues, something. I went to elementary school with some very weird kids, and recently went back for my 20 year reunion. I know those kids had a shitty time in school, but they didn't have an option but to learn social skills. All those kids have grown into pretty well adjusted adults. They're a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:39 AM
3

Looking at the attitude they display here, do you actually think they've tried? Like gone outside and made themselves uncomfortable again and again and again? These are the most defeatist, risk averse people I've ever encountered. I literally see them saying that they "can't" ask a girl out because she'll think he's weird. I think their parents did them a huge disservice by allowing them to live online, and they're doing themselves equally bad by letting it continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:49 AM
1

are you serious? firstly, i'm not blaming, i'm explaining why it happens. but if you read the actual comment you'd see that if i am "blaming" anyone, it's actually the parents who coddle their awkward kid and put them in front of a screen. secondly, even if i was blaming the kid, so what? are you actually saying that no one should ever be considered responsible for their own unhappiness? if they grow into adults and continue to act in a way that socially isolates themselves, why should we not po…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:58 AM
0

Gross
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:51 AM
-1

Ok if you don't care about having other people in your life then what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:04 AM
1

and going through that discomfort is what teaches kids to shift and change and become more likeable. if you just run away from it you're screwed forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:25 AM
4

are you sociable and fun and well-liked?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:23 AM
4

and this helpless victim mentality is exactly what i'm talking about. thanks for exhibiting it so clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:22 AM
22

this is 100% due to the internet letting the weird antisocial kids retreat and turn into weird antisocial adults. when i was young, the spergy kid was forced out there, his awkwardness be damned. he'd learn to mimic other kids and eventually become normal enough to have friends and date and marry. nowadays, everyone's too worried about hurting the weird kid's feelings. there is no forced socialization, and he ends up missing the boat completely. they just slap on the spectrum label and let him e…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:48 AM
3

getting hung up on the small things, or not being able to tell the difference between a big and a small thing. thinking small things are big and big things are small. this stuff took me a while to learn, but once i did, everything became so much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 12:43 AM
1

He specifically brought up "his world", which he regularly talks about in here as being a bunch of plates. I think this is a case of his preferences not being advice.
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/22 09:30 AM
2

Ok yep, that makes sense. It sounded like you were suggesting the only reason a woman could be unhappy with a man is if she was comparing him to some better ideal.
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/22 08:23 AM
1

And that's why we ask the fisher(wo)man, not the fish 😊 I'm not sure many women here are interested in getting into the nonmonogamous, unmarried world you're offering.
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/22 08:20 AM
2

Women will reject attractive men, often several levels above their own, for the most frivolous reasons. One such reason often stated here is social awkwardness. I will never not find it hilarious when men in here think they get to decide what women should value in a partner. If he's socially awkward, he is not "several levels above" her, regardless of how much he makes in his nerd job.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:55 AM
3

yeah i make a point not to take reddit fantasy stories seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:50 AM
1

our past partners predict the minimum standard for our future ones. They set the baseline I'm curious if you're speaking theoretically or from experience? Because this doesn't fit my experience at all.
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/22 02:09 AM
3

a woman could be dissatisfied with her mate even while being a virgin. She could be comparing him to some unattainable ideal, maybe an unrequited crush, or a fictional character or, maybe she's not comparing him to anything in particular and he's just not a good mate. it sounds like you're saying that women's standards only exist in the context of hypergamy and comparison? that there's no absolute desires?
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/22 02:06 AM
3

Ah, see I have. It wasn't so much a desire to blow up a relationship, though I ultimately did and thank God. Oh yes I should have said that with the caveat that I'm only talking about the relationships where he's satisfied my hypergamy early on. In relationships where I feel I've dated down I've felt exactly the same and it's a horrible feeling. Even down to wishing there was something "wrong enough" with him to break up over haha. I think for me, I loved him, but wasn't IN love with him, to be …
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/22 01:33 AM
2

I'm of the opinion that what happens is that women get addicted to the excitement or newness of a relationship. There are different feels at 1 month and 5 years right. Yes, absolutely. I also think it's a 2-pronged problem though. Women, having responsive sex drives, react to the man we're with. Every time I see a man complaining that his wife went from a filthy sex kitten to a starfish over the years I ask him if he still flirts with and seduces her like he did when she was 25. The answer is al…
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/22 12:58 AM
3

In my experience, this is a problem that has more to do with a woman feeling like she's settled than it does with the number of previous partners. This is a really good point and I agree. I've never understood this logic of "the more people she's slept with, the harder she is to satisfy". I've slept with... enough... and my standards for what I considered great sex never changed. I was fully capable as a virgin of knowing when sex was no good, and I still get my mind blown every time I have sex …
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/22 11:53 PM
2

gross
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:34 PM
1

there is very little stigma attached to a Woman being violent or aggressive towards a Man because of the perception she can’t actually seriously hurt him it's not a "perception" lol it is reality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:34 PM
2

it doesn't justify abuse, but it does justify male on female abuse being treated very differently to female on male.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:28 PM
7

it's not even due to "variability", it's due to the fact that men are men and are living in a testosterone fuelled body. men are bigger, stronger and more violent than women by their very nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:27 PM
15

This is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:12 PM
13

This just doesn't happen lol. You guys have invented this scenario yourself and gotten all worked up over it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:11 PM
6

This obsession with being the biggest victim is absolutely repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:01 PM
1

Did I say Bill shouldn't be free?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:40 AM
1

That only works if my logic is in line with your example. Why don't you try asking me what I believe instead of telling me?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:07 AM
1

Why are you asking me lol did I convict Bill Cosby?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 08:32 AM
1

I mean, so what, even if she did. It was a million years ago and she's regretful. I'm certain my guy did shady shit when he was a kid. I don't ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:58 AM
1

No one's discussed what this "rape" actually involved. Was it a 17 year old giving a 15 year old drinks before having sex? I'm certainly not going to go digging in my grown partner's history for stories like that lol. Who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:31 AM
2

If it's specifically to avoid men, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:44 AM
5

I think it's really sad and dysfunctional that a man would rather play single mommy than maintain a relationship with a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:13 AM
0

Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:31 AM
0

She was a teenager. Who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:22 AM
0

Ignorance is absolutely bliss in relationships. Everybody has something in their past, insisting on knowing every detail about a person is always going to be damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:22 AM
4

Why on earth do couples do this lol. Yeah let's sit down and deliberately dredge up everything we can think of to ruin our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:19 PM
1

I can't really respect a man who hasn't been tested by life. My peers are all coddled UMC millennial men who think that having their parents divorce was the ultimate trauma and I find them repulsive. My SO has real grit and it's what I love most about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:29 PM
9

I read a book once about the menstrual cycle that compared the phases to the seasons and encouraged you to plan your month around it. PMS/menstruation was related to winter, when you're taking pleasure in rest and comfort and solitude. Hibernating and preserving energy. My PMS became so much more manageable when I stopped fighting it and leant into that cosy melancholic feeling.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/22 08:14 AM
58

Best thing you can do is to come up with a plan to not inflict this on him next month. All the sweet gifts in the world will not stop this from getting really old if it happens regularly. I get terrible mood swings with my PMS and am not fun to be around. I mark these days in my calendar and plan to indulge in alone time or time with girlfriends. I basically just spend a couple of days avoiding him for his own good lol.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/22 03:15 AM
3

Thanks 🥰
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/22 12:24 AM
2

But you want praise for not being a porn addict lol.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/22 12:17 AM
1

Useless post
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/22 12:16 AM
6

You're not even talking about any real self improvement lol. You gave up porn and gaming? Wow, congrats. You managed to meet the absolute baseline to be an adult. Do I get a gold star for not being an alcoholic?
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/22 12:15 AM
6

I'm sorry that the type of woman YOU attract is so useless.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/22 12:04 AM
6

Like attracts like. If all the women you encounter are shitty, you're the common denominator.
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/22 11:54 PM
2

find and keep long lasting commitment, which is pretty much the goal of this entire sub long term commitment with the right man. not just commitment for commitment's sake. he might be the right man for her, he might not be. it's only inconsequential for people it's inconsequential for. there’s no guarantee that any other man on the market will live up to the shadow he cast sure, that is possible. it's also possible that it's a big deal for her and it eats away at her attraction over time until s…
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/22 10:37 AM
1

she also says: I get a really odd taste in my mouth when I hear about anime and references to it . my attraction keeps dwindling any time he references anime . it has a substantial effect on my attraction toward him it is affecting her attraction to him, and what is petty to you may actually be very important to someone else. you don't have to agree with me, but you don't get to tell OP what she should value and what she should overlook. i'm not telling her to leave. i'm just throwing another RP…
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/22 09:53 AM
0

she has a million people in here telling her she's being unreasonable and that she should simply get over it. is that more helpful? i'm reminding her that attraction is not negotiable, and that she's not the only one out there who is massively turned off by anime
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/22 09:07 AM
0

I'm not saying her SO is like that, or that she should leave him. I said that there is an association there, and I understand the subconscious ick that comes with anime watchers
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/22 08:36 AM
1

Why do I have to be judged for simply having anime as a dealbreaker/red flag… Because this sub is full of autistic men who spend way too much time online. I've never met an anime fan who's socially adjusted.
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/22 07:19 AM
-7

I don't have any advice, but will say that I understand where you're coming from. Anime gives me the "ick" more than just about anything and the fact that anime fans defend it so passionately just makes it worse. Almost everyone I've met who's into it is... somehow off. Huge overlap with those Asperger's weeb types that just gross me out.
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/22 07:15 AM
30

A few a week, almost all from other women. Your hair looks good, I like your shoes, this meal you made is great, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:11 AM
4

I read that as chicken and breast milk
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:59 AM
7

Yeah you either don't speak English or don't understand chemistry from a woman's perspective at all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:37 AM
34

if the crux of your question is about having things in common with your partner, i don't care. i share exactly zero hobbies with my man and it's great. your options don't make sense otherwise though. how would i have amazing chemistry with someone i'm not attracted to? how am i not attracted to someone i have amazing chemistry with? if we have such chemistry why are they a friend? chemistry is far more important to women's attraction than looks. if you want a question that makes sense to women, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 12:27 AM
10

He also doesn't sit in his den and whine that zebras aren't walking in and offering themselves up to be eaten
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:20 PM
1

Oh come on lol. I can't tell if you're actually missing the point this badly or if you're just pretending to be retarded. Either way I cbf.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:17 PM
0

Yeah it's insane lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:02 PM
1

Why are you suggesting the men have to wait to be asked out? No one's saying men should lower their standards and then just sit there passively. Get out there and flirt with the fat girl, buy her a drink, ask her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:01 PM
1

I was on the depo shot from 18-22ish, because I was in a LTR and didn't want to use condoms, and I was on the pill from 25-29 for the same reason. My partner has a vasectomy now, so I stopped. I feel better in general being off it, but I do miss being able to skip periods at will.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:43 AM
1

And where incel/blackpill content is banned
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:37 AM
2

I've said this before, but we really need a weekly thread here where all the guys can make up stories about how everyone wants to fuck them and we can all pretend to believe them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:33 AM
1

"A man can be 50 and get away with it. A man would never want an old wrinkly hag." Comparing the male and female experiences is always outright retarded. If you're so jealous of women, go ahead and transition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:12 AM
0

Shh you'll trigger them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:11 AM
5

Unless I'm romantically interested in them I find straight men insufferable. So typical of men here to consider a regular, reactive female libido as defective lol. Solipsism what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:10 AM
1

Nonsense. Here in the real world men have standards too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:43 AM
3

Imagine being some NEET or minimum wage worker that still lives with their parents Who's fault is that? Why would a woman want anything to do with a man like that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:19 AM
1

It's so boring
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:53 AM
14

what happened to the no blackpill thing here? is this just a straight up incel sub now?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:33 AM
3

i just don't really find straight guys interesting unless i'm romantically interested in them lol. gay guys are far more relatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:30 AM
5

Because gay guys are fun, stylish, and don't want to fuck you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:17 AM
1

Yeah that's the only reason I can think of
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:28 AM
6

Lifelong fag hag here, and totally agree. I have no idea why women want to be friends with straight guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:19 AM
0

He was very much committed, I left him
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 08:35 PM
1

the "cushion" of "I can just get an abortion" is sort of horrific to me as a more mature adult I'm curious what is horrific about it to you. Do you mind expanding?
/r/RedPillWives05/08/22 04:01 PM
2

The baby is a living human from conception. Society should protects the weak. I understand this line of thinking, I just disagree that an early fetus can be considered human in a meaningful way when it comes to discussing its rights. For me, the total lack of consciousness early on means that any wants of the mother, no matter how whimsy, supercede its right to exist. But I acknowledge that the point at which you assign rights to a thing is arbitrary, and for people who consider it a whole human…
/r/RedPillWives05/08/22 03:35 PM
2

Morally, it gets a little hazy for me once the fetus gains some kind of consciousness, but that doesn't seem to happen until the pregnancy is a few months in. I have no qualms with killing something that doesn't even know it's alive. I'm not religious, it's the equivalent to killing a plant to me. Politically, I don't agree with the government getting between a woman's choice to do what she wants to her body, and a doctor who is willing to provide that paid service. I certainly don't agree with …
/r/RedPillWives05/08/22 09:51 AM
2

Yeah I agree not to go shopping for paintings if she's not the kind of person to own paintings haha. I guess I'm probably biased in that my man is a musician and artist and appreciates good design. My home has a lot of character and interesting, quality pieces that he really loved being around. Definitely no knick knacks and posters lol.
/r/RedPillWomen05/08/22 08:07 AM
8

Ok I'm kind of big on using my space to create a feeling so I totally get you. Someone already touched on temperature - try thinking of all the senses and how they make you feel. I'm really big on lighting and it's such an easy/cheap thing to improve. Ceiling mounted lights simply shouldn't exist outside of the kitchen in my opinion. A well placed lamp with a warm globe and a couple of candles automatically gives the place a more comfortable, relaxing vibe. I always have background music on when…
/r/RedPillWomen05/08/22 07:52 AM
6

I don’t think there’s a straight man on Earth who thought less of his girlfriend because she didn’t have enough decorations Before we lived together, my SO loved spending our time at my place because it was so much cosier than his. Some men really do appreciate that feminine eye for comfort and design that makes it a "home".
/r/RedPillWomen05/08/22 07:41 AM
3

This is part and parcel of free speech and the free market. Consumers make their wants known, and companies can choose whether or not they respond to that. I'm not going to judge a company for acting in a way that protects their profits.
/r/RedPillWomen05/08/22 02:35 AM
5

"right away" as in seeing him across the room or right away as in interacting with him? I've slept with plenty of guys who were nothing special to look at, but as soon as we started talking and flirting I was interested. I've never grown feelings or attraction for someone I already knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 09:45 PM
0

Can you read? We were talking about having options available to us who are attractive, socially fluent and committed. Not about who does the work once the relationship starts. Try to stay on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:59 PM
1

I've never struggled with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 04:33 PM
0

Quit porn and get your testosterone levels sorted. Eat right and work out. Bet you things start to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:01 AM
2

Not everyone is that awkward. I've always avoided awkward men and have never been lacking in options.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 11:21 AM
1

Most men are quite clumpsy in approaching so going for what you want is a plus We don't want the awkward ones though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:47 AM
1

That's not what I meant. You can't compare something as gendered as status between men and women. Why do some men lack social currency compared to other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:22 AM
3

Why do you think men lack social currency?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:16 AM
1

So you'd agree then that society and media are intensely misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:52 AM
2

i always find it amazing when guys get stuck on the dumb dad trope and cry about it being a sign of oppressive misandry. so dramatic lol. as if there aren't a billion negative female tropes in the media.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:18 AM
5

This sub isn't your personal diary
/r/RedPillWomen02/08/22 02:28 AM
2

IT field but something that can't be outsourced. Coding and STEM are well on their way out because you can buy them so much cheaper abroad. I'm in stakeholder management/product ownership these days and there is sooo much work for someone who understands the tech but can also communicate and manage people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 01:21 AM
1

men definitely are approaching less, but it's not because they're pill-brained neurotics who are worried about being metoo'd. young men are just becoming lazy and passive and would rather swipe on tinder and jerk off to porn than go out and hit on someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:49 PM
3

i have to vacuum daily, but i have a big fluffy cat
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:46 PM
2

no. when i'm in love he gets more of me than some random hook-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:45 PM
1

i "felt love" almost immediately, but it was different to the love i feel now. i'm sure in 5 years time i will love him in a different way again. i don't think it's a binary on/off thing that doesn't change. i don't care. i say it when i feel it. i don't think it needs to be this big, serious milestone. again, i don't really care if it's called an LTR or not. a relationship is just a relationship until you marry. once the initial limerence wears off. took about 18 months in my current relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:43 PM
2

The only reasonable advice in this situation is "don't blow up your life for someone you've never met", but you argue with anyone who tells you that. Are you after advice or validation?
/r/RedPillWomen01/08/22 09:15 AM
1

Can you "leave" someone you've never even met?
/r/RedPillWomen01/08/22 06:55 AM
5

There is nothing hetero about getting fucked in the ass. I have a few girlfriends who have dated men who asked to be pegged. Every single one of them later came out as gay or bi
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:27 AM
-2

What's funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:13 AM
0

I wouldn't want to be valued by a man who's into this. Yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:52 AM
2

No I don't, I wouldn't, and I've never been asked to
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:50 AM
2

Yes I'm aware, but I prefer it that way. I don't want a man who's there out of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 11:15 AM
2

I work full time and my SO is functionally retired. He spends maybe a day a week keeping his businesses running, but they're pretty low maintenance. He does the brunt of the housework and cooking, and otherwise works on his music and projects. We're both really happy with the set-up. But - he still brings in an income, I genuinely enjoy my work, and we don't have/want kids. If any of those changed I'm not sure it would work as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 03:52 AM
3

reactive sexuality. i only have a sex drive when i'm around a man who triggers it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:57 AM
2

you miserable fuck lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:43 AM
2

there's women in here literally saying the exact same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:53 AM
12

i think you're both right. women will work and work at trying to fix the relationship/the man and only break up once it's clear things are never going to change and she's finally lost feelings for him. i did the same with my ex - spent the last year and a half of the relationship devoted to trying to make things work and failing. i didn't stop trying until i'd fallen out of love with him and then it was easy to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:51 AM
7

Autism
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:37 AM
0

Yeah I think a small number of women are naturally dominant. I was more talking about the hyper submissive "spit on me daddy" girls. They're naturally receptive to dominant masculinity, there's less and less of that around, so they need to act it out with kink. They're actually more likely to find the level of masculinity they need in a butch lesbian now, hence all the "bisexuals" on TikTok thirsting over she/theys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:32 PM
1

I think women want this kind of stuff when there's no actual masculinity around to be organically turned on by. Young men are missing that raw masculinity that gen x had, so girls are seeking out kink to bypass how gross they are and trick themselves into feeling like they're with a man. Same reason the older kink/poly/swinger crowds are all so ugly. They need to fabricate excitement in order to fuck each other. Also related - the explosion in young female "queers" and they/thems. No masculinity…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:28 PM
2

Hahah very telling that men can trash talk women all day here, but the second you talk about the protected class invading women's spaces that's a step too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:43 PM
1

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:22 PM
2

The vast majority of men will still pay for their children No they wouldn't. Mandated child support only exists because men will abandon the kids as soon as he's no longer with the mother
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:09 PM
2

No I'm not going to go hunting for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:09 AM
1

Emotional ≠ Emotionally unstable, Emotional ≠ able to have emotions either, So what do you mean by emotional
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:39 AM
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Not sure why you'd marry a man who acts like that. Sounds like a competition, not a relationship. If you enjoy that dynamic, good for you. Hope you win.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:37 AM
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It's not about who blows up the relationship, it's the result. If knowing the ins and outs of his steroid use is worth it, go ahead. I'm just warning you that it won't end well. My advice, if you love and respect and want to keep the man, is to let him have a little privacy and trust that he knows what he's doing. Stop playing cop and trying to catch him out, and eventually he'll feel more comfortable in sharing things like this with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:28 AM
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I didn't say it's your fault. It doesn't need to be your fault in order to make a bad decision that blows up your relationship. Just make sure that knowing about the steroids is worth it to you. Consider why he is lying to you about this, and what effect forcing the information out of him will have on your dynamic. If you want him to share things like this with you, being a controlling harpy is not going to get you what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:03 AM
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Good luck lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:57 PM
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Yeah and the way you're acting is diametrically opposed to both of those. You're treating your man like a child and trying to "catch him out". Best case scenario here is that he bends to your will and takes his time-out like a little bitch. Worst case scenario he has some pride and walks out on you. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:54 PM
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Right, so you're going to lie about your motives so you can get on your high horse about him lying to you. Seems like a great plan. Do you actually like the guy? If you want this to work out, just let him do what he wants. It's so minor in the scheme of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:47 PM
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You have RPW in your flair, I'm curious what that means to you. Don't go digging for information if you haven't decided what you'll do with it. What are you going to do if it comes back positive? Are you prepared for the fall-out and loss of love if it comes back negative? Make sure this is worth it to you, you're about to seriously fuck up your dynamic either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:43 PM
1

And you think drug testing him is going to make things any better? How do you see this ending well? It comes back clean and you confirm yourself to be a distrustful harpy who bosses your 50 year old husband around. It comes back positive and you have a husband who was lying to you (probably because you're a distrustful harpy). What do you do then? Tell him off and make him quit? Put him in the naughty corner? No wonder he's not being honest with you. I'm genuinely curious what your end game is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:38 PM
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How can you possibly talk about trust when you're about to send him off for a drug test? What trust?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:03 PM
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It's the exact same thing. You're saying you don't trust him to tell you the truth so he needs to prove it with a test. Treat a man like a baby and he'll either act like one or fuck right off. There is absolutely nothing red pill about what you're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:00 PM
1

Are you really going to march a 50 year old man down to the doctor for a drug test as if he was your teenager? Good luck lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:47 PM
4

Yeah it's mental
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:15 PM
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If it's actually a selfish move on his part and not just you being dramatic, then what on earth are you doing with him?
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/22 10:07 AM
1

Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:22 AM
1

Yeah I'm talking about hetero dynamics between hetero people
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:20 AM
1

Didn't you say you're gay lol you don't count
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:18 AM
1

Sure. They don't require it for arousal in the same way women do, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:02 AM
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It's not about communication, it's about prerational attraction. Normal women just can't feel that attraction when they have to chase a man. Out sex drive is all wrapped up in being wanted and pursued, and that's just biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:52 AM
1

If you wouldn't be satisfied being treated that way, why do you think men would? Because men are not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:39 AM
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Yes it's weird
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:02 AM
2

Yes. Making a habit of identifying and then dismissing the small things before reacting to them is the single best thing I've done for my relationships. Romantic and otherwise.
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/22 01:57 AM
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Are you happy with this dynamic where you need to pull away and date other people in order to hold his attention? How do I make sure he realizes that I’m starting to value myself and my time, and that he’s going to have to put in effort This game playing is going to get old really quick imo. You're better off addressing the root cause of your relationship problems or finding someone who doesn't need to be tricked into treating you like a partner.
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/22 01:45 AM
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I don't see another solution. You need quality sleep, and he's not interested in helping you get that.
/r/RedPillWives25/07/22 11:07 PM
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Why can't you have separate bedrooms?
/r/RedPillWives25/07/22 09:27 PM
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It sounds like you should both sort yourselves out before trying to date. He has unresolved "abandonment wounds" and you are triggered to the point of requiring an apology because he gave you a gift. It all sounds unhealthy and exhausting. Personal issues and sensitivities make relationship problems inevitable.
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/22 09:24 PM
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My SO was one of those alt boys back in the day, and is very much not gay now
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/22 06:11 AM
0

What studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:22 AM
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Men's attraction is almost exclusively based on looks, but they will stoop a long way from their preference when they're horny. Women's attraction is based on a bunch of factors, but they'd rather just go without than compromise too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:22 AM
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Yeah, it's like being heavily tattooed. People who do this are deliberately signalling to one kind of person, and avoiding another.
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/22 03:46 AM
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This is not a new thing, alternative guys were doing this 20 years ago when I was a teenager. If a guy had enough masculine DGAF energy to pull it off without seeming gay, then I found it hot. It's a personal preference though - I always enjoyed the alt guys, lots of women don't.
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/22 03:45 AM
3

That doesn't reflect the lives of anyone i know
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:16 PM
1

Because everyone says guys move mountains for girls they like They do. If he likes you this much and still can't talk to you, he has a debilitating problem with shyness. Probably not what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:27 AM
3

Have you asked him if he cares about this?
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/22 02:44 AM
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Yeah, for the men this works on, it works great. Some men go the other way and it sucks. My ex was like this. We had a lot of issues around division of labor, so I tried the RPW approach and it just got worse. I would give a little more, he would give a little less and set this as our new standard. I'd give harder, thinking he'd eventually notice and reciprocate, and he'd step back again, do less, and set this as our new standard. If I slipped back to something closer to 50/50, he'd get angry th…
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/22 01:51 AM
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if ladies knew the amount of rejection guys have to go through, I think you might be inspired to take initiative a bit more Why?
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/22 01:23 AM
1

Yeah how dare women want sexual dimorphism. By the same logic, men wanting a woman with tits when they don't have any themselves is hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:08 PM
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Yeah. My SO estimates his number at around 300, and he's no 10/10 pretty boy Chad. He's forward and flirty and worked as a bartender when he was young. He hit on everything he wanted to fuck, and didn't act like an uptight woman wishing he could sit there and be chased.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:05 PM
1

I went on a trip with my friends and their kids recently and it was fucking miserable lol. And they're good, happy kids. My partner and I couldn't wait to get home. Different strokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:47 PM
3

This is western women? Show me all those non-western, traditional women who are doing all the pursuing and acting like men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 08:53 PM
8

It's not hurtful, it's just gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:19 AM
6

You're way overthinking it. Living with this level of neuroticism is much more damaging to your chances than scheduling a date a day earlier than optimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:32 PM
1

Most guys here who care about sexual past, care about it because they think a virgin will be more easily impressed, they're jealous of women being able to fuck around, or they just think sluts are gross. This "I want a loving romantic connection before sex" just doesn't have anything to do with the n count discussion that happens here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:29 PM
1

The idea of the wage gap is that employers don't see equal employees as equal. Not that they deliberately pay more for men. They're saying that if you're fronted with an equally capable man and women, you'll perceive the man more favourably and give him the job/raise/promotion over the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:53 AM
7

How is not wanting to fuck someone mistreating them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:17 AM
1

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:42 PM
2

Then maybe you should say that rather than snarky backhanded sarcasm that no one but you is in on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:17 AM
3

Do whatever you want. I was just pointing out the blindingly obvious implication in his comment that you somehow missed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:03 AM
2

He obviously means interesting to the people you want to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:35 AM
3

Yeah my guy sounds like yours. He started saying it during sex really early on but I just ignored that haha. When he said it clothed/sober for the first time I knew he meant it and said it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:56 AM
1

I liked them when they just talked shit. It's just endless more edgy/trad than thou now and it's boring
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:00 AM
1

That's just contrarianism, not social change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:43 AM
1

She's talking about how it feels... That's exactly what she's saying the distinction is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:06 PM
13

The OP is literally asking for the woman's perspective and then you whine when someone gives an honest, good faith answer lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:03 PM
5

Men value directness as long as you're not telling them what to do. Start over explaining and most men will immediately tune out.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/22 07:09 AM
13

Bring him your problem: "My family is coming to stay and they will meet you. This is going to create really big problems for me if we don't have an engagement on the horizon. What do you think I should tell them when they're on my back about it? 3 years ago we discussed a timeline, are you still working to that, or should I adjust my expectations?"
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/22 06:00 AM
5

This is how forever girlfriends are made. "Sure babe, of course I see it in our future..."
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/22 05:54 AM
5

Yes, we are talking about different things. When I say aggression I'm talking about that brutish capacity for violence, and that's something I and apparently OP require to feel attraction. It's that dangerous energy that makes other men nervous around him, and makes me feel that if anything ever went wrong, he wouldn't hesitate in hurting someone to protect me. Some men I've met in finance/sales have that energy. Many do not. I've spent many years in the military, and while the best officers hav…
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/22 11:38 PM
1

Yes exactly.
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/22 10:48 PM
2

I'll just say that despite to the AFBB trope in RP, I went the other way. I tried for years to date the gentle types. Great men, but I never felt fully satisfied. It wasn't until I gave my much rougher partner a chance that everything clicked into place. It was a lightbulb moment for me and I've been blissfully happy ever since. /u/sunshinesundress is right that it comes with trade-offs, but for me, having a man that I can fully respect and submit to is 10000% worth it. Regarding the money aspec…
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/22 10:04 PM
2

I'm not saying otherwise. My fault for not being more clear in differentiating between selecting for that fierce attraction/respect and how you behave/show it. Of course there are days I bite my tongue or disagree with him, but like you, our relationship started with that intense attraction and respect that wouldn't have been triggered in me by a less masculine/aggressive man. That's my point - that some women require a higher level of masculinity in a man in order to have that respect flow some…
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/22 09:36 PM
1

There is feeling respect for a man, and there is acting respectful. They are different things, and I was speaking about the first when I said it's not negotiable.
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/22 10:46 AM
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I'm not sure what most of this is arguing against. Although it's possible I missed something, that was a very wordy response. I never said to go all alpha or all beta, just that there is a spectrum of behaviors. I also said that there are trade-offs in either direction. I disagree that real respect is negotiable or a choice, especially for women who need more of those masculine alpha traits in a partner. I also think that respect and attraction are so closely intertwined for women that it doesn'…
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/22 09:35 AM
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I wasn't talking about your comment specifically, but it was close I think to a common misunderstanding in RPW that "masculinity" is just the nice bits that we, as women, like. Masculinity is a lot of things, and some of those things are unflattering or bad for relationships. I'm not in the business of telling any women what they should want, as veering too far from natural urges when choosing a mate is a recipe for disaster imo. Sure, it's more pragmatic to choose a gentle guy with great self c…
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/22 07:48 AM
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Raw masculinity is by its nature violent and aggressive. This is a fact, and it is not a good or bad thing in itself, but I would be careful listening to the trope that "real men" are not aggressive. Aggression is part and parcel of testosterone. Men vary in their levels of raw masculinity, and vary in how well they can control it. Women vary in how much masculinity they can handle, and how much visible masculinity they require to remain attracted. I personally grew up in a family of very mascul…
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/22 05:21 AM
2

Bye
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/22 04:40 AM
2

This is a women's sub
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/22 03:58 AM
1

The truth is, in human society sexual satisfaction is greater in relationships where partners initiate equally Nonsense. I don't know a single woman who would be satisfied in a relationship where she was the initiator and had to act like the man
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:28 AM
2

Really? You think there is no biological basis to dating/sexual norms? Look at every other animal and how the male and female behave differently when it comes to mating. Why would humans be the one and only exception?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:01 AM
1

Ok, stay single then if it's too hard. Plenty of men figure it out and do the work, these are the ones getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:16 PM
2

You want to be treated like a woman, and no woman is ever going to enjoy that. If you want her to be enthusiastically into you, you need to learn how to act like a man and trigger that desire in her. That takes action, not sitting there and waiting for her to make the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:12 PM
1

So undo it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:10 PM
2

You will never ever get laid if you take that approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:00 PM
2

How can I ever be sure that she finds me attractive?!? You can't. You take a risk and flirt with her in a way that makes you attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:58 PM
1

Why is it fucked up? Women are not men. Men are the initiators and women will dry up and lose interest as soon as they're put in a position where they have to take the male role
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:55 PM
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We don't want someone who's "happy to be intimate" with us. We want someone who WANTS us and is willing to be proactive and make it happen
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:54 PM
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It's not a fear of rejection stopping women from rejecting, it's the fact that it's impossible to become turned on when you're the initiator. To be attracted to a man, he needs to be forward and seductive. That's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:52 PM
2

divorce rates are a percentage of marriages, not of people. if marriage rates are falling, divorces also need to fall for those numbers to make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:39 AM
1

Yeah, last time I got a promotion I celebrated by booking us into a nice hotel for a slutty weekend together. It's kinda sad these guys have never had a woman who likes them more than their wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:41 AM
1

When my SO was young he fucked a woman who is now a famous actress. Every time we see her on a movie trailer or poster he'll smirk about it and go "hey did I tell you about the time..." YES yes you did congratulations
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 09:06 PM
18

What are you talking about. It is absolutely 100% abnormal to not know how to socialize with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:55 AM
8

There is a lot of room between pretending to care about someone and being absolutely boring and saying "want to fuck". Have you ever flirted with someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:52 AM
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are you going to consider any kind of flirting or chemistry to be manipulation? because that's really weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:56 AM
3

Why did you stay with the ex if the sex was awful?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:59 AM
4

Because in a healthy relationship you want to give things to your partner and make them happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:58 AM
6

In what ways is he a "strong alpha male"? These types will usually naturally wear the pants in a relationship, so it would be good to hear more about him in order to give advice.
/r/RedPillWomen03/07/22 04:49 AM
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You haven't offended me, or anyone I think. I was concerned that you'd misunderstood RP theory and as a result believed that you were irreparably damaged and bonded to a rapist in place of a partner. Trauma bonding does exist, but it is very different to what TRP describes in pair bonding. Your post is asking for help finding a man when you're low worth (due to rape, n count, bonding, whatever). The overwhelming response here is that you are not low worth, you just have some trauma to address. I…
/r/RedPillWomen02/07/22 11:10 PM
2

Pair bonding takes place regardless of whether or not the sex is consensual. Regardless of age. Where are you getting this from? Can you show me your source?
/r/RedPillWomen02/07/22 09:14 PM
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Can you show me where TRP says that incestuous rape at 3 years old leads to pair bonding with the rapist? I don't believe that they do. Generally when they discuss a woman's pair bonding it's based on all of the feelings and excitement and arousal that comes with a woman's first consensual encounter with a boyfriend. It's all about the oxytocin that's released. That it's such a positive emotional experience that she latches onto him and becomes attached. I've read a lot of TRP, and have never, e…
/r/RedPillWomen02/07/22 09:09 PM
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