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Well you sound like you have your head on straight so enjoy. For reference: Jammerly = OGJammers. She's one of the founders of FDS. UMC = upper middle class. Lot of women on here claim to be high class to suggest that RP only works on trashy women. PA = personal assistant
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 11:52 AM
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Just FYI, it's all a persona a bit like Jammerly. Those of us who have been around for years know that she's not UMC, she's a PA. She's not some bombshell, she was plated by her 'ex' who apparently loved her so much that he broke up with her and moved half way around the world. And that's what you have to remember about most consistent female posters on here - they aren't trying to understand, sympathise or instruct. They are trying to win a fight and they will go to pretty much any textual meas…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 10:39 AM
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You've wildly missed the point. They aren't supposed to. In some cases they cant. I'm not defending incels or even AFCs, just explaining why it happens in my view. However if I'm going to engage in a bit of conjecture, I'd say that all that really needs to done is the recognition that seduction/game is not a totally distinct set of skills and that you need to foster confidence and assertiveness. The same guys who fail with women will largely fail with other aspects of their lives as well. What's…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 06:05 PM
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The whole point about Nice Guys is that they can't be assertive in situations with women (Fucking and relationship) and can't be anything but nice and appropriate. So this isn't about men that want to be good. Because this isn't a moral conversation. Even the author of I Feel Guilty When I Say No brings up this delineation when it comes to being assertive. This is about assertiveness or a failure to be assertive. This is what my post was about. Welcome to the winners circle. And the whole idea t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:16 PM
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Disagree with this. A lot of guys are under the delusion that becoming the sort of man that they are nudged to be by parents and teachers will result in them also having success with women. And why not? Hard working, intelligent, athletic, creative, fun guys with a sense of humour are liked by everyone right? Guys are just trying to be good men - they don't necessarily see the small missing pieces that can translate this to sexual success.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 04:46 PM
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Wonderful post mate. Matches my own experiences - I didn't enjoy dabbling in casual sex at all and am attractive enough to have had a gf/wife for almost all of my adult life. I always find the weak-insult slant that not wanting to engage in loads of casual sex is a low value signal to be baffling because it doesn't really align at all. What a lot of the debate on here seems to miss/think irrelevant is that relationship focused people still have standards and that those standards are likely to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:35 AM
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And for all the shit they get - including from me - this is one thing TRP aims to do pretty well with the depedestalisation of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 01:02 PM
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Its not a pet theory the mods have said this for years haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:59 AM
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That's essentially how this always goes. People really personalise this whole topic and the shaming starts to come out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:29 AM
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+1 to you. I cant believe what I'm seeing here. Sex addict ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 10:15 AM
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Are you kidding? Originally it was a derogatory term describing women who dressed provocatively, has moved to describe promiscuous women of many partners and is sometimes used a shaming word. Sex addict, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 10:15 AM
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Yeah. Essentially if there are no better options. Up to you to decide how serious it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 02:17 PM
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So 5% of an already tiny number of men. Plus once married you can't get out of it. The ability to walk away before the common law marriage kicks in is surely a huge resettable benefit for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 03:59 PM
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That's a tiny portion of the west for one thing. For another - how does being married make it better than being common law spouses from the alimony POV?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 03:48 PM
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Ok but even with the relatively small number of people we are talking about here - are you in a worse situation than actually being married?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 03:39 PM
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You wouldn't pay alimony if you were never married.....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 03:07 PM
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I probably would have gone to local university instead of one of the top schools in the country. I'd still be living in my small corner of the world and probably wondering if there was anything else out there for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 01:32 PM
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My best friend is a head teacher in a school. He thinks its a mixture of poor teaching methods and women (who make up the bulk of teaching staff) intuitively teaching better for women than for men. Boys dont really learn through polite conversation. They learn by observation, trial and error and competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 09:53 AM
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Eh I hang out with female friends all the time. I had drinks with 4 chicks just last night. As you get older everyone is in relationships anyway so they are less thirsty for attention and validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 02:33 PM
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And if it all goes south, those with a necro fetish will finally be laughing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:16 AM
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Its prospecting. As the 'approachee' women will generally still have prospects to choose from by virtue of the men who approach them IRL or even through social media circles. Most men aren't getting hit on going about their day to day and OLD is the lowest bar to entry for them to try and generate leads. As for the rest, men and women tend to frequent different places along interest lines. Sure a house party, birthday dinner for a mutual friend or a neighbourhood bar are pretty unisex but beyond…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 11:29 AM
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Three things. First, the impact of those things are all on male beta traits. Those arent the attraction traits so much as the sustaining ones. Boosting those in all men won't result in a load of men suddenly becoming successful. If anything its likely to make the already successful guys more successful. Second, thats US centric. I dont know how big the impact is in the US - got any stats? Furthermore the pillsphere is applicable in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, all of North…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 12:31 PM
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How exactly are men not free? You can easily join the growing ranks of guys who just go to work, go to the gym and then go home to play video games. And yes, maybe a lot of men do select out if the need to looksmax is laid as bare as it needs to be but at least thats an informed decision and not them struggling to understand why they are losing at a game they didnt realise they were playing with one arm tied behind their backs. However, lets not pretend that its just looks that plays into being …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 12:09 PM
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There are two things that need to happen to 'fix' things IMO. 1) Men need to be more acutely aware of what they need to do to be attractive to women and to actually follow through with it. 2) People need to get off their phones more and go do things. For hundreds of years we met each other in schools, churches, community events or down the pub. You cant replace that with mobile apps. You don't see the majority of people struggling hard in college because 2) is taken care of and 1) is obviated so…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 11:45 AM
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Seems like you are trying quite hard to demonise the reds tbh. I always read it more like they found a diet that worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 10:06 AM
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I've been married for nearly 8 years. I'm a top 5% earner, tall, in shape, well dressed and groomed - my wife bought me lunch on our first date. We are both givers. It wouldn't have worked otherwise. Chick sitting there expectantly waiting for me to plan all the dates, pay for everything and hope she isn't fucking someone else whilst I'm soft committing to her is getting dropped like a hot potato.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:55 PM
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He's kinda right. Its quite obvious when a girl isnt ready vs is holding back artificially. The latter just comes across as a lack of physical interest and chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 10:58 AM
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Sure. I can't really speak to the US in general with any sort of authority because I've only lived there for 1 year. That said the same pattern does seem to hold true, women are just financially punished more in the US for living the same way (either through childcare costs or having to quit) - which is something Im in favour of addressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:37 AM
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Well thats the US. FWIW my old company (in NYC) used to give women 3 months full paid regardless. In Western Europe every country has decent maternity leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:17 AM
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The issue is generally that of childcare and maternity leave. I have still never met a woman (and granted I live in a place where women get long maternity leave by default and there is a process that has to be followed to split this with the father) who didn't want to be home with the kids as much as possible. Then there starts to be a lot of job choices to allow them to work flexibly because they don't want to lose time with the kids even when back at work. Of course there is a knock of effect …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 09:26 AM
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I don't think it's erosion of empathy per se. It's more likely the revenge fantasy. These guys hold all women to have been the ones who turned them down and left them alone and are happy to see the same thing being done to them - often at the hands of men who they consider to be like them. Sort of a projection at the same time. Vicarious rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 09:14 AM
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Oooh wow. It's like making the leap from counsellor to district judge. Bless you, might be worth coming back to the sub :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 09:11 AM
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Apologies. I'll delete the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 10:00 PM
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You generally don't want to mod people who provide or generate a high quality of debate because their participation on the sub drops off hugely - which I'd argue has a worse net effect on the sub than gaining a good mod. For that reason I'd be against losing contributions from poppy, goat, sublime, wtknight and yasee. Nominate decoy for a blue male. Agree that Paisley would also make a good mod as a female.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:05 PM
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100% agree with this. I think you can easily lump in most purples are tarred as red or soft red when a few years back they'd likely be considered Blue. The Chad thing is annoying as well. Full on acceptance of incel parlance. Chad is probably a little closer to high beta than those guys think in any case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:47 AM
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Incidentally we've had a handful of mini meetups in NYC haha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 01:21 PM
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As luck would have it I am going to Miami next week. Any recommendations?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 11:53 AM
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Alpha doesnt just include looks. It includes traits like having great chat, being super fun, great sense of humour etc. These guys have enough looks, combined with these other traits, to round out enough alpha to be attractive. Would that, in itself, be enough for casual sex? I think you underestimate what a few shots of tequila will do (especially if they are fun) and you might well be underselling their attractiveness anyway. To answer your first question though, you'd probably call them betas…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 12:38 PM
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Sure you can't rule out that its hard work for all but a small handful of men, some people aren't going to want to do that when they are already attractive enough for an LTR - the honeymoon phase of which is better than any casual sex anyway. I'd say that the majority of reds I know in LTRs got there because of what I said as well - I think cxj even made a post about it a while back. However I also wonder if you arent conflating reds with incels here because its not all that hard to get sporadic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:17 AM
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So it's only good for pumping and dumping, as it were? Depends on the guy who is employing it no? If you are just an average beta then you might get the sex but you are also getting an improved physique, more productive routine, better confidence etc. And I'm still not sure how they would deal with having a reputation as a player when trying for a more serious relationship. This hasnt really been the case for any of the players I know. OLD and making new friend groups can still be fruitful even …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:12 AM
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Well no, thats just an assumption isnt it? Id be more inclined to suggest that men, like slutty women, get bored of it and start to want more than just meaningless sex over time. It doesn't mean that TRP's teachings are bad at actually getting that meaningless sex in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:06 AM
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You are just describing what decent quality betas have done for decades. Red Pill isn't about getting one of your friends to be your girlfriend, it's about getting the easy (and hot) girls to pick you consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:47 AM
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I try not to post here very much anymore but want to say that this is 100% right. One of the major complaints about the RP toolset is that it seems overly focused on an American High School drama. I definitely remember it, at Uni, being the guys in bands who the thots would throw themselves at whilst the athletes would get with other athletes or just normal girls. To be charitable, I think they'd probably claim to cover the Brand type guys with the status label that could be augmented with a rip…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 10:41 AM
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My father in law was just watching an aljazeera production on the falling marriage rates and high divorce rates in Lebanon. Very redpilled stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 01:50 PM
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This is my entire point though. There is much more to attraction than photo looks but if you don't get the chance to employ those attributes then they are effectively worth null.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 01:14 PM
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You are smart enough to realise that you need the opportunity to get that date before you can roll out other attractive qualities I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:30 PM
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It's the most common way for people to meet lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:28 PM
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Given the importance of OLD to so many people these days, one could argue that being attractive in a picture is almost as important as being attractive IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:22 AM
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This is my take as well. You can spot the guy who only eats takeout and who's place is a dump a mile away. Pretty rare outside of college.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:40 PM
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Sure those chores are necessary but they aren't always needed to be done as frequently or thoroughly as many women want. Cooking and childcare are the main two requirements that can't be shirked. My point is that women are just as selfish as men in imposing their own desired standards of living on the relationship and then complain about it if the man doesn't immediately comply.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:47 PM
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Because a lot of those complaints are a woman trying to impose her standards on a relationship. That comes with a lot of nagging and often men are happy with a little less (children excepted). I think you also forget that women also have to learn relationship skills and many are terrible at the important stuff. If that carries over into marriage then it really can be a thief of joy. A happy marriage is not just a list of completed chores. Lastly, I don't know anyone who isn't sharing this stuff …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:33 PM
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Too drunk for me not to feel a bit rapey, even though I was also really drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 02:45 PM
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I think his point is that TRP claims that women are doing this anyway so why would you want to be the guy paying only for her to go and fuck some low quality pretty boy an hour after you settle for an 'appropriate' kiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 07:41 AM
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In general I agree with you. Depends what you value and what the inner city life is like. You have to remember that a lot of inner city America (and Europe in many places) are kinda deprived, have higher crime and more pollution. Additionally apartments often work out to be more expensive in the long run due to leasehold laws, management fees etc. I think people generally find the suburbs to be better value for money, have more of a community (probably nice if you trust your neighbours around yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 10:48 AM
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So the model these days is really to self publish, build a following and then get picked up by an agent. Thats doubly the case in certain genres which were never ultra popular and mainstream and don't have a huge number of agents in the field anyway (SFF in the UK had about 9 agents who would even look at submissions before GoT went huge). The problem is that there are so many people out there writing. Many are terrible but there are just too many people who are just good enough to make it a rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:13 PM
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Likewise Salty! My gym is holding a fundraiser to benefit combating male suicide which I thought was neat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 07:20 PM
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Ok. I do and work with a lot of people who make that much and unless you work in a finance or adtech hotspot you are likely only finding this in engineers who are generally not going to be super high n.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 07:14 PM
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Presumably you arent trying to get with high n guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 06:50 PM
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Ah I was with you until I read that. Ive kinda always dated the way that your OP seems to want but being treated worse than other guys for no reason makes you immediately worth less than the other girls who (largely) want the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 05:56 PM
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Yeah I wouldn't worry about your weight too much. You are well within the range where it doesn't matter that much so unless you want to start strutting around with your midriff out there are better places to focus.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 07:46 AM
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This. Lot of guys aren't all that confident at this time and the ones who are heavily overlap with the fuckboy population. It'll get easier. OP just needs to be as social as possible to put herself in the position of catching eyes, or do whatever to luck out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 07:44 AM
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Im legit thinking of having toast for dinner....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 01:46 PM
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I'm familiar with the terms and just threw the 20% number in as the 'women are only attracted to x' term. The point is that hypergamy is relative and that surely if men were to sink in value as a whole, women would adjust their standards. I do take your point about the decreasing value of beta in this model though. Given that most men are also decreasing in physical attractiveness that would explain the tanking marriage rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 08:45 PM
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Don't reds also argue that women would raise their standards if more men were suddenly alpha/chadlike? Why doesn't it work the other way and women would just compete for the top 20% whoever/whatever they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 08:19 PM
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It's not so bad. They get to expect the proferred comfort but otherwise act pretty much the same. You can withdraw the comfort in the same way as they can withdraw the sex. Pretty natural check and balance on a relationship. Most guys fuck it up by not having enough comfort to withdraw in the first place or being too soft to withdraw it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 08:16 PM
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Yeah that one is annoying as hell. Can tell you it still works even after 12 years with the same girl. Go figure
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 07:53 PM
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Yes you are ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 05:51 PM
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Not a terrible bet. I'd probably go with Abraham myself though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 05:40 PM
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Sure but those guys didnt always have gfs and wives. You could easily argue that the guys with a bit of aspiration and planning for the future are the ones who will ultimately do well with women (even if just as beta bux).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 04:56 PM
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I wasnt even talking about all of them, though we have had a recent influx of real downers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 04:53 PM
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IME men are actually the "downtrodden" nihilists, both on PPD and in real life. On PPD sure haha. IRL I suspect it depends who you hang out with. Most of my friends are big dreamers. A man with any drop of genuine hope for his future is either gay or has a woman behind him. This is one of the more perplexing things I've seen on this sub. Are you sat next to Atlas? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 04:50 PM
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Totally agree with all points here. I tend to hang out with guys my own age, work peeps or much younger women (especially ones I trained previously). Just this bubbly enjoyment for life is endearing, very fun, a little addictive and I've always found it brings out my inner rascal. My wife encourages it because she likes that side of me. Its a little sad seeing the downtrodden ladies of PPD. The ones I've met IRL (with one exception) dont come off that way and you can just tell that they are goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 04:27 PM
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This should be the top post. There are a lot of benefits of pairing off whilst young and, as a guy, I would echo most of those points (couple of bad heartbreaks but meh, long time ago now).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 11:50 AM
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Are you honestly asking a guy with a history degree if it's a good idea to learn from the past which you haven't actually experienced?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 04:07 PM
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My point included something that they believed but which never actually existed. Honestly I don't see why they can't extend that to include something from stories of people they respect - how many people pedestalise their grandparents marriage for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 04:05 PM
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Sure but I'm not sure that you need to actually have to experience it to value something. I'm pretty sure that you and Benzo think that 18 year olds should be able to vote right? Why age precludes you from advocating something idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 03:22 PM
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Disagree. Some people love the society they come from (or think, through rose tinted nostalgia goggles, that they do) and are sad to see it change. That love comes from years of traditions, indoctrinations and religions. This isn't a new phenomenon. People have been talking this way since the fall of Rome. Now sure, you have a point that a lot of this chatter seems to come from a place of 'do as I say, not as I do' but I'm not sure it's fair to paint everyone with this brush.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 12:13 PM
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I figure that full legalisation and destigmatisation leads to a decrease in porn usage, not some big effect on male thirst. Potentially good for treating dead bedrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 08:57 AM
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I mean more sex usually = less porn and that usually leads to a bump in happiness and energy (unless I'm weird) so they are definitely morons. Can't say I've noticed any other substantial change though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 05:02 PM
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metoo
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 08:37 PM
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I'm also married so you can stop fapping darlin'
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 08:25 PM
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You can report incel content. The mods won't read all of the shit shows that go on on this sub, it would be a full time job.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 05:11 PM
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Lucky for me I'm white, 6ft tall and broad shouldered.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 01:56 PM
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I think its partly this but it does seem pretty local as well. I live in London and I'd say that 90% of people I see day-to-day are in the underweight to slightly overweight category. Its still remarkable enough to see an obviously obese person. Ok most people arent insta models but I still find most women (between ~18 and 35) to be kinda pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 12:54 PM
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Ill consider myself lucky that didnt really happen to me haha
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 03:08 PM
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Sure thats the main consequence of their course here. Any guy with any sort of ego or sense of value will assume she's not that into him (as long as they aren't teens I guess) and back off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 02:58 PM
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Recent reading of this sub rather suggests that you are not allowed those things and should report for re-education immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 02:44 PM
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Haha I assume that if you are clean, attractive, fun to be around, have a good job and plenty of money then she is definitely going to still think you are the right guy for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 02:35 PM
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Have you ever seen an answer on this that you like? I cant help but its either just a massive straddle along gender lines in terms of values OR one of the cases where women close ranks and demand something from men purely because its in their own interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 02:31 PM
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And that's perfectly fine. It is unfortunately a huge 'settling' flag though. As Cain wrote above, being treated inconsistently relative to others should be treated as a sign of your value, even if it's coming from a good place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 08:10 AM
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How many dates did you go on in 2 months? 5 or 6?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:44 PM
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Definitely agree to an extent, especially around OLD. However let me flip this seeing as OP didnt flair and the thread is now team woman brigaded. How long is appropriate to wait before a man dips out? There's also very little sympathy for a woman who tried sex on the first date once or twice, didn't like it, and stopped doing it. Even though it would be crazy to keep doing something you hate just because you did it once before. I think people should enforce their boundaries. If she doesnt like …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:42 PM
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How is this not flaired as CMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:36 PM
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I cant believe that this actually needed to be stated..... This sub needs help
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 05:04 PM
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If in doubt just remember that Alpha = attraction traits, Beta = comfort/provision traits and Omega = useless/repellant traits. All men will have some mixture of at least two of those groups and the terms really refer to the preponderance of traits held by any given guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 05:03 PM
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No for sure. It would be weird if we werent all attracted to the people we date. I'm just paraphrasing Red talking points as I thought you were geniunely asking about Beta Bucks lol. Most people aren’t directly looking for the resources of comfort/stability/company when they enter a relationship I think most are looking for fun/chemistry but (and I have no idea how old you are) it seems to become far more important to women as they get older to have those things present as key elements of the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 04:46 PM
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Ah ok I get you - you are a normal woman :) And yes. Maybe chased some alpha when younger and now looking for comfort and stability of a greater beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 04:29 PM
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Why do women think N-count/sexual history is the one thing that shouldn't matter? Looks, income, hobbies, status are all fair game, even vetting against people with a low N-count (virgins for example) is fine, but vetting against promiscuity is the one thing guaranteed to get most women REEEEEEing. Now that you mention it, Im not sure I've ever seen this explained by a woman beyond 'the past is the past/im not that person/'vague insults directed at questioner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 04:19 PM
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If you dont put much weight on attraction or sex.... arent you really just looking for a friend? Like, what does your ideal relationship look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 04:14 PM
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Its nothing particularly novel. I remember hearing my female friends chat about things in similar ways when I was younger. Ive definitely seen this shit all over facebook as well. Ultimately, unsuccessful and inexperienced people are going to look for a cheat code for success and there are a lot of people selling the snake oil of cheat codes on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:54 PM
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Yup. It's been a bit of blue pill wisdom for as long as I've been an adult - as soon as you stop trying so hard to get women, they start to come to you. Obviously you have to be kinda attractive, a bit of a normie and have a decent social circle for that to apply (so the reds are correct) but it's always proven true for me and my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 09:44 PM
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Yeah. I went to one of the top schools in the world and it was a mix of rich girls doing subjects out of interest and poorer girls looking for a decent degree for a professional career. No one was looking for a husband, though some did find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 05:41 PM
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Well thats the first time I've seen Jon Lajole referenced on reddit outside of a fantasy football context.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 10:44 AM
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Top post. In addition, they lean towards pursuing the better/best men willing to date them. However this means that he is more likely to be interested in a less than serious relationship as if he is the best they can do, then he can likely do better than them. This ends up in a situation where from the women's perspective they face a situation where the majority of men they date don't want a serious relationship, despite that not being true of men as a whole. This is something I've been talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 09:45 AM
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Good post. Its funny how women cant see the reflection of the 'male privilege' argument they love to trot out in this very subject - because thats exactly what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 02:01 PM
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Its incredible. You go to a clothes store in London and the two sizes they are most likely to be sold out of are 30" and 32". I can't remember the last time I even saw 40" jeans.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 11:09 AM
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Thats dangerously close to an incel argument. You arent wrong though, lots of American chicks seem very broad (I'm guessing Dutch ancestry) compared to Europeans. That translates fine in an in-shape woman though, heck you even get a little bit of a bump lookswise in carrying a little extra weight because you'll do it better than the slight girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 11:04 AM
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Its not all good but its hardly bad either. You pretty much automatically clear the looks barrier so that you get onto being judged on your personality. Thats the way its going to work for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 10:56 AM
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It's lifestyle really. People don't walk around so much, get used to those big meals (huge portion sizes), the food quality is low. Can't outwork a bad diet. There are parts of the US where people are in shape and attractive though. Boston and NYC spring to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:43 PM
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It does. Countries where people still smoke a lot tend to be the slimmest but that doesn't really map to healthy. The larger factor is that people actually walk around in Europe. My experience was that people don't really do that in many American cities outside of the East coast and a few other ones spotted around (Chicago and Pittsburgh are quite walkable).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:37 PM
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Bad luck :(
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:34 PM
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Are you under 30 and American? Just out of interest really. Ive clearly been in a NYC/London bubble and this thread is eye opening to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 04:36 PM
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Aye, imagine how many M&Ms you could eat in the time it takes to get a full body massage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 04:25 PM
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Italian? Its a very localised preference. Northern and Eastern Europe seems to skew towards women at a 130-140 range I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 04:08 PM
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Totally agree. Im not sure it even requires you to grow up that way as long as you value being slim, attractive and healthy (or some combo of those).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 03:52 PM
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I had to chuckle at having a waist size 6 inches smaller than the average American woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 03:41 PM
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Pretty sure thats how the zombie apocalypse starts
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 12:36 PM
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Definitely. I mean there is a minor part on the chick if she's knowingly taking advantage of what he's offering without any intention of reciprocating but it's insignificant compared to what the guy is doing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 11:06 AM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 11:01 AM
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I think you are probably taking this viewpoint with a Beta Bux or Harpy imagined to be giving the advice right? Thats fair, you can reject anything you want for any reason. However, most BP advice is purely predicated on an underlying assumption that the person taking it is already good looking and socially competent - which as a starting point is pretty much where RP advice ends anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 10:11 AM
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You really don't believe that women are only sexually attracted to minority of men, do you? Bitter truth. Nope. That would make me the minority of men and I really doubt I'm that pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:25 AM
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Why would you get into a relationship with someone you don't like though? Presumably what you mean is high levels of sexual attraction and I doubt that the % of women getting into relationships with low to no sexual attraction is very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:19 AM
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Well that's just the mean. Whilst I agree that most guys are doing fine, if the actual distribution is bimodal then people like OP would have a point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 08:25 AM
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If have said those are both 6s but upvoted for cross gender consistency
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:45 PM
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I didn't realise that smoogs was running your account during purge week.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:35 PM
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Ah now you are doing the silly thing of conflating women with n < 10 with virgins which rather shuts down the discussion. And yes I bloody love golden retrievers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:41 PM
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Yeah but you leave yourself open to the obvious point that a normal n woman with those characteristics is an even better bet. Not that I'm arguing really but I do think there are probably stronger arguments than the divorce probability
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 12:55 PM
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Kinda snuck the n count part through there and hoped no one would notice eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 12:46 PM
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As a matter of fact - just the tip
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 08:57 AM
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You are now my go to for all chemistry questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 08:55 AM
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Well none of the chicks in that show are super hot I thought that was the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 02:10 PM
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Ehhh I think the looks thing is probably the most important thing but yes he's fun and confident and reads social situations and body language very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 02:07 PM
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I mean it's true that the higher portion of success does come from looksmaxing but it's the subsidiary effects of that which are the keys to success. Being relaxed and confident (or just drunk!) are what contribute really get the job done. Caveat for online dating where looks and photo editing are amplified.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 07:02 AM
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Doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 10:04 PM
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Doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 09:51 PM
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Nawwwww. They just ran out of roofies. Poor guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:46 PM
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Smelling like piss and covered in Burger King wrappings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:35 PM
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LTAM: Maybe I need to take more photos of my penis? Thread checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:29 PM
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I can see that the mgtows wouldnt believe this given they have all been fucked over but it is kinda interesting that people buy it when it's not borne out by the stats and both high and low n women claim the opposite as well. If they wanted to make a claim about dead bedrooms then I'd be more receptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 06:37 AM
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The biggest swing and miss post of purge week
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:32 PM
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I think you are outing yourself as having not really done the reading here mate. Even if you haven't actually read the sidebar remember that the shorthand for RP is basically 'Lift, STFU, sidebar' where lift is intended to encompass all physical improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:00 PM
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Would be good if they went all the way lazy and stopped even looking for reasons to do anything. Let's start with posting on Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:52 PM
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Since when do reds not agree with looksmaxing? Hell even the blues agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:45 PM
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Ok so if I just start an orphanage my wife will age really well?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:07 PM
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I'd rather have a Homalo Ha.....gaaaay?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:27 PM
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Kate Beckinsale is 46 and amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:24 PM
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They get all like https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/437/472/ccb.png
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:59 PM
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I personally blame women for the extinction of the dinosaurs. I COULD HAVE HAD A STEGOSAURUS YOU ASSHOLES!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:54 PM
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I mean I work for a company in the Google/Facebook vertical so my experience is pretty relevant. There is a big difference between those of us in client facing roles (we have a rep of being quite fratty for some reason) and the actual techies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:06 PM
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Cheers for the permission bro. I'm off to find that bitch Karen from Facilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:02 PM
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I do care. No one should be sexually assaulted. However I've also been groped, catcalled, kissed etc without my consent. I didn't like it. Didnt dye my hair pink and make a youtube channel about stopping all personal hygiene though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 12:42 PM
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I gotta be honest, in the tech arm of my company there are quite a few incels. They dont talk to anyone or go for drinks or anything. Aaaand in the normie bunch there are almost as many gay men as there are married or dating straight guys. However I take the point. There isnt anything inherent about STEM jobs that makes you an abrasive cuntbag on the internet who cant get a date. Go and play some beer pong instead of hating women for being women maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 12:40 PM
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Agreed that was great.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:10 AM
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Oh man I forgot Leane. She's great.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:26 AM
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He mods whereareallthegoodmen as alda-something. Seems happier when he gets to just preach instead of get angrier and angrier with the female posters as he struggles in a vain attempt to understand the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:17 AM
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I find the idea of coming home to be confronted by a cat seated at a table with a bottle of whisky to be delightfully absurd. Do they hang out there a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:13 AM
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Haha your dog has the longest face. Such a cutie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:12 AM
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Post baby sex life recovery. I feel you hear it more from people in DBs a lot more than people in happy relationships (including IRL) so that was a nice one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 09:04 PM
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If it makes you feel better you wrote the best post by a woman I've seen on the sub. I don't save many but that one I'll hold onto.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 08:44 PM
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That's the best thing I've heard all day
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 08:42 PM
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Don't worry I did an undercarriage check at the door. They are clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 07:51 PM
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Not even Jezebel or rainisthelife?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 07:16 PM
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Have you considered lightening up a bit?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 06:31 PM
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Immediately get down and smell her butt
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 06:00 PM
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Mate I've had a few drinks so didn't read this but want you to know that I appreciate the effort you went to writing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 05:16 PM
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I think the main thing here is that we are on the fucking internet and most of us dont have any real likelihood of meeting each other so it doesnt hurt to be a bit jovial. If people are cunts then sure they lose that privilege. I have about 8 people blocked because I can't stand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 04:58 PM
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I mean you can will karaoke into being. You are the only one who can say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 04:52 PM
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Yeah totally understandable given the way people are at present and even before with some of the more extreme reds. FWIW, none of the ones I've met IRL (except /u/LSTW1234 and /u/LivelyChartreuse ) have been anything like their online personas anyway. Buncha keyboard warriors haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:19 PM
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Sure and what you seem to be suggesting is that women here are and should not be either where I would suggest that (deferential aside) everyone should be both until you come up against people who lose that privilege. I guess being forced to go to Church until I was 9 did rub off a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:10 PM
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We are not married to you. We are not dating you. (Apologies, u/planejane.) Why the hell should we be nice to you? This is the only reason you are nice to someone? Man I try to be nice to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:07 PM
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We've kinda ended up in a bad cycle now. A few incels went off on the women who have become bitter, this has spread to the newer women on the sub who are pre-emptively reciprocating (lol?) against all men so any new men are either white knights or getting attacked as well. All a bit shit, most people are nicer than this and its all because incel subs get banned and they decide to bring their toxicity here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:12 PM
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It was as soon as the pics thread went up, some creep just posted all the hoarded ones from the first purge week. Completely killed the thread last year, im actually surprised people went for it at all this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 12:49 PM
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Well I've got a plan. I'm apparently a rowdy drunk so me and /u/BPremium will do shots then go round all of their houses and bang on their doors until they come and have fun or actually just rope.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 10:58 AM
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Edinburgh seems to have gotten prettier over time. I went this summer and it was much better looking than the previous times I've been. Obviously not NYC/London quality but better than most of the UK for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 09:53 AM
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Mate you should just host parties for incels where you drug them and it plays out exactly like the plot of The Hangover.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 09:22 AM
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Great comment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:56 PM
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Likewise, I've met most of them IRL anyway so pretty low risk
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:51 PM
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r/Askmen has four photo threads a year (2x men, 2x women, winter and summer) and generally the standard of attractiveness is significantly higher than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 04:39 PM
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I didnt post because I dont want some asshole reverse searching and doxxing me tbh, pretty confident I look good enough for you to think I was a bonafide gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 04:37 PM
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Bro you look good. Its not your looks holding you back, I'm guessing you arent confident and that leads to a) not being fun and b) not being assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 04:32 PM
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I feel like I can fit two of me in your chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 12:02 PM
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Ah why the heck not, it wouldn't be fair otherwise! You make me want to buy expensive hair products so I can look 1/10th as good as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 11:59 AM
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The government will do whatever it wants to in order to do one of two things: 1) get more power 2) get more money You are young enough that you havent been an adult under any government bar a Conservative one. Those guys are less flagrant about 2) because they are more into personal wealth through tax breaks and evasion. You'll see far more aggressive redistribution of wealth schemes if Labour ever gets its act together. Its then that I think we'll see more measures aimed at taking more from the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 11:31 AM
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Its weird you say that because this year I've been to more weddings than any other year. Also had drinks with a chick who's just gotten engaged as well. All these people were pretty well off though so I think its kinda a class/status flex for them as much as anything. Maybe they just want kids. Ultimately I kinda agree though. If you cohabit, maybe coparent, and your finances are comingled at all then - in the UK at least - there doesnt seem to be that much point to marriage beyond a few far off…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 09:59 AM
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YOU ARE ALIVE!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 09:21 AM
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You are probably fine at this point as it's generating discussion and you aren't just spamming the same talking points over and over tbh. I think that rule is for the woe is me brigade which you aren't a member of.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:07 AM
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Get well soon! I'm also recuperating from something but no way near as bad as this. You need to take time off work or anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 09:15 AM
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Mods surely have to delete this for breaching the frequency rule? Edit: and now he's downvoting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 09:12 AM
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This describes a couple of guys I know. They'll get relationships eventually but it's often with a lower quality woman. The reverse is also true. The guys with the best chat tend to be punching way above their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 08:06 AM
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Yup. Even just doing things like they used to do when they started dating. I don't know if I think complacency is the root cause of cheating but it likely does play a part.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 08:02 AM
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Anyone in an NFL fantasy league?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 02:01 PM
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Im sorry, I find this comment quite hard to parse. /u/chaddad9000 is just saying that the socially aware RPers tend to be saying things that blues agree with. They dont need advice on how to be socially aware
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 11:13 AM
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You can find it descriptive even if you dont actually follow it or subscribe to it. There are a few of us (albeit small in number compared to the incel hordes) that fall into this bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 10:56 AM
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I mean I'm British but old enough for religion to still have its roots in the better off areas. A slight blip is that rich people in poorer urban areas tend to be a bit more slutty but thats probably expected given their ability to compete in the SMP. Ive said a few times that I work with a lot of girls who are straight out of college, into partying and drugs etc but have been with the same guy for 3-4 years and didnt really have a slut phase. I think that seems to be overblown by some of the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 09:11 AM
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Right. Around half of my high school graduated as virgins. I know a huge amount of people who graduated university with a sub-3 count. Hell, even speaking to some sluttier friends of mine I was surprised that they were n1-3 when they left high school. Generally speaking, the ones who paired off early are going to have a lower count. Shocker. That's your normal woman. Arguably that makes a stronger case for lower n women anyway but that's for another thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 08:13 AM
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Big +1. Reflects the views of most people I know. The only slight disagreement I have is that the more promiscuous women I know will Not. Shut. Up about it. That need for validation apparently extends beyond just the act of going out and having a lot of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 08:06 AM
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Yeah it's embarrassing to read at times. Them: 'how many guys have you slept with?' Chick: 'whys it import- ok fine....6' Them: 'i didn't ask for the square root you slut! How about all the chads in club bathrooms?!'
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 08:02 AM
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I sorta agree. I do think that, lately, women have lurched into man hater territory but you are dead right about respecting men less. It's a bit of a double edged sword. On one hand I'm thinking 'haha these guys are idiots!' and if I were single life would be very easy. OTOH women are still throwing themselves at these guys anyway - which reinforces the idea that the only reason to be a good man is so that you can look yourself in the mirror in the morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 06:44 AM
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Frankly I thought he looked like he was in a Russian prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 06:34 AM
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This. The great power of the blue pill is that it doesn't leave that much room for shooting yourself in the face by comparing your situation to others. It allows for more satisfaction regardless of whether she made you wait, doesn't do that anymore etc etc. The red pill forces you to face a perception of reality (which may be bleak and/or untrue) and so opens the door to a much more honest happiness or a much more crushing disappointment. I think it also really acts as a catalyst for increased e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 05:08 PM
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Gotta go to a user's profile and find it that way. Surprisingly non obvious for a place like reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 07:16 AM
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Future time orientation which is a gobbledegook term describing how long term your thinking is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 06:15 PM
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I can assure you that there aren't any societies that dont have any biological fathers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 05:47 PM
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Would love to see it. I think FTO is at the core of so much of the RP base ideas that it's weird it's not really one of the major topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 05:46 PM
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Saw a dude fail on a rep of 135 on bench this morning. Almost ran over to lift it off him but he did the roll of shame and then struggled to get it back on the rack (I probably should have helped here cause I was actually doing bent over rows for more weight). I figured I didnt want to really embarrass the guy, especially on a low weight. Bro walks around for a minute, psyches himself up and then goes back and crushes the next set. First time I havent thought a guy was a dick for celebrating a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 11:03 AM
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Great comment mate. Never really thought about it like this but it's spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 06:39 AM
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Why have you written this like you've cut the title out of a dozen magazines for a ransom note? And the latter. The former is what initiation and escalation is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 01:11 PM
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Most of us learn that we will be reacted to with cold disinterest or derision over time. I'm sure some guys have mothers or sisters that like to listen to them and others (like me) have a close friend who is happy to play agony aunt. Other than that it's nothing. There is no positive feedback cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 12:29 PM
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And professional hair and makeup teams.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 12:07 PM
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Would be a bad result not to beat them at Anfield tbh. Just don't play with 10 men and don't play the ball back to Adrian and it should be relatively smooth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 10:55 AM
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Happy belated birthday!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 10:54 AM
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You've posted a bunch of women who have undergone cosmetic surgery as proof that 33 year olds are hot? Look, I'm sure there are a lot of 15 year olds that are too underdeveloped to be attractive to a lot of guys, particularly those 10+ years older. But that doesn't mean that older women are still more attractive than younger, albeit fully developed, women - which I think is what you are attempting to strawman here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 10:53 AM
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Supposedly we are in for a storm until the weekend then it's supposed to be lovely again
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 08:04 PM
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Me too but as platonic friends it's one thing, being sexually harassed by one really does fucking suck and I have loaaadds of sympathy for women who have to go through that (with straight dudes).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 06:06 PM
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Well this is complete crap lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 01:45 PM
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Right but seems people arent using those lol. Presumably there is a way of preventing transmission of disease whilst also not being a physical barrier. Thats basically what PrEP is isnt it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 12:26 PM
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Yeah I see that progression, its logical. Its just funny to me that so much of women's critique of TRP is based on its tone and language used but at the first opportunity they get, they do the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 10:45 AM
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Id want to see the correlation with employment ideally. I think education makes you more employable and employment is the real birth rate killer. Either way, yes education is definitely a key part of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 09:52 AM
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Oh I dont care what most people on PPD think lol. I just find it funny that you ladies love to break out the hypocrisy at every available opportunity. I think there is a huge difference between AWALT and AMALT though. AWALT really describes normal behaviour and impulses - if inaccurately ascribing them to all women. I think you'd find it hard to prove that many men, absent brutalisation or other conditioning, would be chomping down hard to try and oh-god-please-dont-rape-anyone-today! I'm far mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 09:48 AM
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Is it education or is it just freedom, choice and lack of a culture that exalts motherhood (most notably found in religion)? Im hungover so I might be willfully blind to this but im pretty sure that every liberal society in history has ended up with low birth rates. You cant bribe women with time off or money (see Germany) and you cant badger them (see every mother in law ever) so really its just choice and the freedom to make it due to the ability to be financially independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 09:37 AM
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Makes sense though doesnt it? Our wives have already displayed years of value to us and it doesnt make sense to couch such a huge life choice on a single facet (although I reckon most guys will think twice if DBd for a prolonged time). Most of this subs topics are really talking in ideals - which is where a lot of the settling conversation lives. On the other hand, most of the women on PPD think men are all violent rapists - including their husbands - so take from that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 09:24 AM
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Have we reached a point where even the blues don't understand what banter is anymore? Christ alive.....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:13 AM
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Pretty much. You can always work on the sex life and leaving a great woman over it seems silly as it could just happen with the next one as well. So, spin plates? Great.... Carousel of 50 year olds sounds like it's worth the effort... I'll definitely stick with the wife thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:11 AM
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Quite the opposite actually. Female BC is the leading cause of condom use degradation which is what's being blamed on the spike in STIs which is what's being blamed for the drop off in overall sex. Presumably we need a way to address STIs more than BC at present. OP is probably still hanging the same guys from 20 years ago though so her cohort won't have changed except to maybe be more relaxed about it as she becomes infertile.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:05 AM
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No that makes perfect sense to me in a world with such high divorce rates. I just wonder if attitudes to BC are the same across all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 06:47 AM
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In fairness doesn't that make you too old to be commenting on the current SMP? I ask this as someone who is probably also too old to comment on the current SMP
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 11:26 PM
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Yeah agreed but no one is going to list off what they think defines 'attractive' without including (and probably starting with) physical attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 11:12 AM
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Rule 1 & 2. What do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 09:54 AM
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I write a lot of SQL at work. You seem bright enough to write it without a day long class. Just look up w3 schools and tell recruiters you can do it until they send out the technical tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 07:41 PM
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Ever looked at the causes of suicide? It's heavily breakdown of marriage, loss of access to children and severe degradation of finances to the point of deprivation. Often those things occur together. Let's not pretend that this is something that this is something that men are doing to themselves or that a bit of talking can fix it. As Cain says, more masculinity could be the answer here. On your point about veterans - do you honestly think that's something that any kind of modern upbringing can …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 07:32 PM
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Get well soon!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 03:31 PM
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Was going to say. Rampant cheating is probably not the same thing as a consensual open relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 03:18 PM
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Im just calling out the white knight pissant for his hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 03:16 PM
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I dont think you understood the point of my post but fair enough. Keep preachin'
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 03:03 PM
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I think everyone gets that.....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 02:26 PM
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Okay and? Even the craziest people have supporters. How is some people agree with the bullshit others get called on a point? What your point? Because its mainstream. Its not a small number of crazies. The original point, which you've lost in your meandering blather, is that if you level a similar point at women it will be labelled victim blaming if not outright misogyny. I think you need to sort out your hate boner for ‘feminism’ and actually read the shit you’re criticising You are trying to pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 12:59 PM
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What counters can I make other than it’s bullshit? Thats not an argument...... Women get called out all the time. In real life, on Reddit, Twitter the news etc. Yeah and are frequently defended by feminists and white knights for it.... hence my point. MensLib Thats just feminism and manages to ignore the needs and realities of most men. or just asking your average person if they think bias should be given to the woman in custody hearings just because she’s female. Most people will say ‘no’ Now t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 12:06 PM
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Strong counter filled with lots of points. Consider my view changed with such a convincing argument. I'd at least have tried to find an MRA position that wasn't painted as toxic masculinity. So far your only contribution to this thread has been to be passive aggressive and make no argument. Are you sure this sub is for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 11:09 AM
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Funny how when men suffer everyone points and cries toxic masculinity but if you point out anything about women its victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 11:01 AM
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Sounds about right man. I've generally found that cardio + diet = weight loss but weights without a decent deficit in the intake is more of a reshape. Always thought that was a nice motivator for overweight guys because that's gotta be easier than being rail thin and trying to gain lean mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 07:10 AM
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Right. How can you even blackmail someone over something that's not damaging to their character (or threat to someone close to them)?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 03:36 PM
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Unlike UK labour, they don't have a group of nationalist or progressive parties taking chunks out of them in the polls. So yeah it will probably work out for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 08:23 AM
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Surely then, the intent is the immoral rather than the advice. A car isn't immoral but me deciding to drive it into a crowd would be
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 08:07 AM
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I guess the flairs really don't mean anything on the sub anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 01:45 PM
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You think maybe that not all of those guys have the stability and resources to make good husband's and fathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 10:31 AM
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Depends on the girl. I have a really good friend like this, who incidentally is where I draw the line for n count. She had a 5 year period of 3-6 month relationships which ended for various reasons (some chasing Chad, some more standard incompatibility) but by the time she went to college she had it all figured out. By the time I met her she'd had 2 bfs in 5 years and is now married to the next guy. Pretty normal behaviour, no crazy stuff in there apart from a 14 year old girl making shit decisi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 09:13 AM
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Sorta similar. Went through with it but felt really detached the whole time and hated every second of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 08:40 AM
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Definitely conscription. China has a huuuuuge standing army precisely because they have so many leftover men. Keeps them out of trouble and a ready source of cannon fodder.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 08:25 PM
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Same. By the time we were early teens my mother was only doing cooking and my dad doing yard work and maintaining the cars or DIY stuff as needed. One upside of having kids is definitely having a little army to help out down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 08:04 PM
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Or like some countries in the Caribbean where they need to employ 10 people in the hope that at least one turns up to a shift. Up immigration to meet the labour shortage, more guys who can't compete etc etc. Probably huge tax relief on married people who have kids eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 08:00 PM
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Being low quality men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 03:50 PM
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No that's very true. I'm pretty sure that most guys will even want this from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 07:43 PM
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This is actually the best counter argument to AFBB I've seen. Every guy is an alpha in the first few weeks of the relationship. Every guy gets the duty sex at some point in a LTR. That said - there are clearly exceptions to this. The guy she makes wait. The guy who doesnt get X because she doesn't do that anymore. The guy who gets completely dead bedroomed. These aren't the sort of things that happen to guys exuding passive dread.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 07:08 PM
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I'm always weirded out when you make a non troll post. I do agree with you though. Two of my brothers are dating 23 year olds whilst over 30 themselves. This sub would have them labelled as creeps and pedos instead of highly successful guys with normal social lives. The older one (36) is probably better described as Alpha Fucks anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 04:55 PM
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So I agree with you - are you a dude though? Its a Q4M.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 03:43 PM
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You are reading a lot into this question lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 09:21 AM
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Where does OP mention older men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 06:24 AM
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This. The closer we move towards equality the greater proportion of men are left behind. Suicide, gang crime, underrepresentation of men in higher education all sharply rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 09:36 PM
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Haha the BBC must be so pissed that much of the world now conflates their old and famous acronym with a slightly racist form of porn. There is a public channel in the US called BBC America. This guy must have been soooooo disappointed when he found out it was just news and British produced or licensed programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 07:14 AM
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This pretty much covers it. I think the only thing I'd really alter would be the social group thing because you will invariably get into clashes where one wants to spend time with the other who is actually planning to be out with friends/relatives. Feel you on the chore thing. What to eat is always a compromise. I'm always aggravated by clutter and am on top laundry by virtue of necessity (working out every day and then wearing normal clothes takes a toll on sock availability!) Where she really …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 07:00 AM
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They want you to trial and error which leads to the most attractive guys doubling down early after getting quick success and growing in confidence. Nothing wrong with getting some good advice. To answer your OP, there are some sources out there but even the better ones are diluted with money grabs or other content in an attempt to stay relevant. RP isn't much different in that respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 08:36 PM
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Looks (be specific if you want) Yes the better they look the better but this is not as high a bar as you think. Personally I've always preferred athletic women but this isnt super necessary (my wife is just skinny). Race isnt really important to me but its pretty rare I find black women to be hot. Personality (describe the sort of personality you find attractive if you want) Very important obviously but I think its more the absence of aggravating traits than the presence of some list of ideals t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:13 PM
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Just so. Im seeing this argument a lot on PPD recently and I dont understand why women think thats a plus point for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 10:12 AM
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Fair enough thanks for the honest reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 01:52 AM
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I mean you can use this as an opportunity to toughen junior up no? Thought you mgtows were all about this sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 01:51 AM
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AF/BB is essentially just saying that women reprioritise away from purely alpha traits and start to demand more stability and provisioning as they grow older and more experienced. Pretty accurate although it lacks the nuance to say that this can (and probably most frequently does) occur with the same dude. Modern red discourse on it has been poisoned by MGTOW to the point where it seems that women literally hurl themselves at the best looking guys and then find some totally different class of sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 01:49 AM
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Would you agree that there is a difference between a hard no and a soft no where you need to sexualise things a bit more so she's into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 01:37 AM
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That's literally what the reds are saying though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 01:28 AM
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Saaame. The only one who lied to me ended up outing herself to a mutual friend who told me everything lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 11:43 PM
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That doesn't make sense. If you weren't past the looks threshold for those women they wouldn't have been interested anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 05:08 PM
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A lot depends on what you mean by nice. Your examples really spell out that women are primarily into fun guys once you are past that looks threshold. Assertion and sexualisation aren't inherently not nice, neither is banter. So yes, if you come across as too serious to be fun - or are even just flat out boring - it's going to hurt your chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 04:22 PM
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She can do what she wants. She'd be an idiot to tell guys that this is her plan though, or to ever let him know that this is what went beforehand. Most guys are suckers for sunk cost fallacies so will likely stick around even if they find out down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 06:21 PM
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Not wanting a family etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:45 PM
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I mean this is basically the entire core of AF/BB. The bigger problem is that its almost impossible to gender neutral it because women seem to be fine to be settled with as long as they got what they want so that understanding gap is ever present.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 09:06 PM
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You might want to link your study as well but I generally agree with you and have been saying this for ages. RP, it seems to me, argues 2 things. First that all women will all be promiscuous for the right guy (AWALT) and second that you want to be able to exploit that nature for your own benefit. I'm not truly convinced by either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 10:05 AM
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Exactly. Just pick the one that matters to you and try and find a partner who is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 12:07 PM
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Right. It's a phase who's time has come. A few years from now it will be something else and God knows what with globalisation. Bollywood goes massive perhaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 06:38 PM
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My flight was cancelled today. Hilariously their attempt at rebooking me was a) tomorrow and b) to a totally different city. Oh well at least I get another day with the wife to have a lazy boozy Sunday.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 06:34 PM
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The norm for the past 6,000 years has been that men have in some way been guaranteed access to a virgin wife. Ha. Now we only get leftovers from more attractive men. Also ha. Do you at the very least concede that an average-looking man is doing the worst in 2019 than in any other year in civilized history? Not even a little bit. If you are a lower tier man then sure, you are quite possibly going to completely miss out in the SMP. Maybe there is something you can do to improve your way out of tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 10:44 AM
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Mainstream advice is really don't be fat. TRP doubles down on bodybuilding. Both will kinda work but I've definitely found the reds to have a point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 07:10 AM
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Ive managed it a bunch. Actually Ive met PJ and Beeps in person. The key is to be drunk AF and abuse a minor league hockey player for 3 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 02:06 PM
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I dont know exactly what you were going through (I was raised Anglican and we dont really hate on sex as much) but I do know the sorts of feelings you are going through. Feelings of worthlessness, that weird sense that everyone is judging or laughing at you behind your back and So. Much. Rage. If you let it come at you all at once, it will engulf you until enough time has passed that you build up an immunity to those feelings. So you pick one thing at first, maybe start small if you cant tackle …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 11:49 AM
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As a 33 year old dude - I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 10:10 AM
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More or less yes. Provision of comfort in any form is a beta trait and a preponderance of those vs 'alpha' attraction traits identifies a guy as a beta. Most guys are beta but you admit early relationships being more physical attraction and have now switched out to a beta. This is exactly what Reds identify as AF/BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 08:49 AM
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Yeah, loads. I actually think its probably the larger factor in attraction over pure looks, assuming that looks is at least passing the minimum level for it, because it really keys into that validation giving area. In a sense though, its also the most fragile part of a relationship and the first thing to go when a woman starts to feel nesting levels of comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 08:24 AM
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You basically have to increase welfare, parental leave and, in the US, free healthcare in order to get women more comfortable with having kids at this point I think. Problem is that it doesn't always work anyway (see Germany) and it doubles down on single motherhood really as it further devalues the contributions of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 06:03 PM
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Happy Birthday :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 03:52 PM
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1) Could it be that men who are selected by women are more masculine and simply will become more masculine every year? So they choose guys with high potential that actually can actualise. This is one of those things that PPD is utterly wrong about honestly. Im 33 and have seen some very masculine friends turn into very soft people. Whilst its true that guys with a good base of attractiveness will probably stay attractive (facial symmetry, ratios etc) I'm not at all convinced that there is necess…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 12:29 PM
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I assume this is a CMV? I'll play a bit of devils advocate here. 1) In absolute terms, their standards for looks do go down somewhat. Men dont have the same total decline (if they take care of themselves) that women do but instead trade that fresh faced youth for a more mature masculinity. Its a rare man who, on pure looks, is really better at 35 than 25. Men also tend to be a little fatter as they age as well. Women seem to want more masculinity vs looks as they get older. 2) The rest of the st…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 10:12 AM
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Naturally we saw that you guys love his lookalike and wanted a bit of that action.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 03:42 PM
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Haven't even heard of a Ski Erg but I'll check it out. Just thinking that some gyms also have those hand bikes but they are quite rare. I think the thing I love about IF is that you adjust to it quickly but its not all that strict. You can kinda eat what you want, just less of it. After I've had a heavy week of drinking or meals out I can effectively switch out dinner to a keto style thing for a few days and that takes care of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 12:36 PM
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Id throw in Intermittent Fasting to the mix. Its been way more effective for me as part of weight management than any other form of diet or exercise regimen. Do you have access to anything with low impact or even upper body cardio? Elliptical trainers have been good for me when recovering from knee and ankle injuries in the past and, though rare, Ski Ergs are all upper body anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 12:16 PM
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You have a point but its somewhat different. Covert contracts are really doing X and expecting Y without anyone being the wiser about what you really want. What stuff like dread is doing is doing X because it makes your chances of directly initiating Y more successful. Reds are looking for ways to maximise their return on initiations for sex, its not covert if they are actually asking for sex. The reason those activities tend to be less open is that they dont work as well if she knows why you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 10:10 AM
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No. No one is in the wrong lol. Bloop males tend to be extreme white knights, blue conditioned dudes will be the ones who go all nice guy and blame the women they are infatuated with for friendzoning them. On this board the guys will always default to virtue signalling, they are still being nice guys. I suspect you know this and are trying a Smoogs-like argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 10:05 AM
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Yeah, nothing. I dont think you got what I was trying to say lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 09:43 AM
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Bloops aren’t the ones wringing their hands about the friendzone Bloops on here arent. You cant white knight effectively if you are blaming women for things can you? I'm talking about normal guys out in the world with normal blue pilled conditioning. Im not convinced most reds are really complaining either (haven't read all these friendzone threads) so much as incels/blackpills. What, to you, is the difference between being friends and being in the friendzone? One is platonic, the other involvin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 09:22 AM
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What do you think the most common story behind a friendzone is? Guy nefariously plots to win girls heart by acting like her confidant from the off or guy falls for an existing friend due to her being nice, showing positive affection etc. Hint, it's the second and it's way harder to get out of that one cleanly. Also, your bit about RP and covert contracts is retarded. Book one, NMMNG is literally about stopping this sort of behaviour. You are talking about blues and doing a bad job of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:33 AM
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As are most of the benefits of RP advice tbh. Just because you can be content living a minimalist life doesn't mean you won't be happier with more or better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 06:38 AM
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To an extent yes. I think your OP touches on a case where it's a little less accurate (because they give attractive people the benefit of the doubt even if other red flags are waving) but they are good at things like gaydar.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 09:47 AM
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Definitely a contender for worst post title in 2019
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 06:50 AM
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Pretty much the same in the UK. Teachers persisted in putting condoms on cucumbers as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:05 PM
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Yeah. One of my wife's aunts and her two kids are committed Muslims and it's crazy common for people in their community to get married purely for sex. One cousin is on her 4th marriage.... Never works out when it's rushed and doubly so when young. Ultimately, considering the average n count, age of marriage and engagement length, it certainly looks like most people are dating a few people between the start of high school and end of college and then settling down with a relatively low to middling…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:03 PM
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Yup agree with this. Not even just the virgins but the high libido low n women, its just age and commitment thats keeping their n low, there isn't a big group of women just sat around for years just waiting for Mr. Right and not dating around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:47 PM
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Top post mate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:46 PM
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Just want to say big +1 and yes we get it too (especially if tall, athletic and white) but nowhere near as bad as you ladies and I'm sorry for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 06:03 PM
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I know you all think the women of PPD are harpies Bold statement lol. Several are actual friends now. Because of my parents, as an adult I am actively involved in mentoring young Boys and always dragging my male friends to assist me. Kudos to you for this. I am confident that I am more equipped than you on this front. CMV. Well we could butt credentials and volunteer work but I rather suspect that you wouldnt believe anything I say anyway. The point of my post wasnt to suggest that your POV isnt…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 04:11 PM
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I think two people who grew up as girls probably arent great barometers for how boys are raised. FWIW all of the kids I know are out and socialising just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 02:59 PM
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Shes trying to use sympathy to get you emotionally involved. FWB sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 09:37 AM
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Man the wet towel thing annoys the crap out of me as well. Fortunately ive trained her out of that I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 09:26 AM
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I'd say boys have identity issues over loneliness myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 08:33 PM
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Where does he say that she doesnt deserve half? He's saying that because men tend to not end up with the house and kids, they end up worse off initially because the process of building a new life costs even more so he is de facto worse of than 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 01:52 PM
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I mean I think that everyone should be picky but I'm happy for people who aren't. Go have your fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 11:25 AM
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I feel like I am now in a position to say that Avril Lavigne and Backstreet Boys improve performance in the gym by around 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 11:17 AM
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Idk, bit of whining, bit of 'its over!', bit of counterarguments consisting of deeply flawed understanding of RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:52 AM
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Ah. My bad. Must be the ole' aussie communication method haha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:52 AM
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If you think that people actually post there to rant about their slutty gf and not to ask for advice on how to work through it then idk what to tell you - you've made up your mind about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:39 AM
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Male dominated lol. Ok there was a thread on AskMen maybe 2 years ago that got picked up and run with by a bunch of online news sites where the majority of users were saying that they had a problem with high n counts but for the most part it doesnt come up in the more male dominated subs - in spite of their fixation on women and relationships. No I'm taking sex, relationships, relationship_advice etc. The 'sex positive' subs if you will. Its hardly a rare occurrence either. I've seen that sort o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:27 AM
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I still think if you loudly go around talking about your preferences unprompted, people are going to dislike it. Well yes thats what I said. I don’t think reddit is a great example, because a lot of the time reddit users are not coldly stating a personal preference - they are shaming strangers for their sex lives. Especially guys who have been burned in the past. They’re angry. Eh? I'm talking about guys posting that they are uncomfortable about their gfs past and getting attacked for it. Agree …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:20 AM
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I agree but you are comparing outward and obvious traits with something, at least initially, hidden. I mean look at Reddit, a lot of the shaming that happens on here is for guys who find out their gf has an extensive sexual history after they've been together for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 09:55 AM
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True to an extent. One of my friends has a pretty high n count and all of his 'conquests' are women the rest of us wouldnt have touched on our worst day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 09:46 AM
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Agreed. I dont think there is a reason to shame a woman for sleeping around. She's taking advantage of natural gifts and I'm certain that shaming comes from a place of envy when its unsolicited. The bit where it gets murky is that, apparently, not wanting to be with a high n woman is considered shaming and that I think is absolute codswallop. Lol downvotes? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 09:43 AM
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I mean there was literally data showing what I said (even though it was a self reported study) posted here a while back. Sounds like you are going off anecdotes which is fine but I know that my experience is entirely contrary (only ever known hoes and women who got together really young be the cheaters). Knowing other posters as I do, I don't think we'd get much of a pattern out of people's accounts - especially where they are involved themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 07:21 AM
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That's a common assertion but there isn't really proof. It does seem like the group most at risk of cheating is those who got married as teens but apart from that there is very little difference and very little data either way - unless you have different, happy to read up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 07:02 AM
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Agree with this but I'm definitely noticing a slowdown in MC marriages around me. Majority of them are still getting married but a number are openly not going to marry and a handful already have kids out of wedlock. Not saying it's a growing trend but I'm sorta surprised by how many people in my social circles aren't tying the knot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 06:48 AM
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I think under a strict definition id agree but even the sub on Reddit just describes itself as a place providing advice to those in a marriage lacking sexual intimacy. I'm guessing the reason they don't draw that line is that apathy and loss of attraction are the hardest thing to fix and they don't want to just be a divorce advice sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 07:14 PM
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Ehhhh it's a sexless marriage at best. I don't think there is really any blame there because it's so natural. I'm not really sure what you think goes into a dead bedroom if not stress and lots of distractions/higher priorities. That apathy and lack of attraction you are imagining? That's a symptom not a cause for the people I know in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 06:57 PM
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They have kids under a year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 04:55 PM
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Yeah very true. She had literally just slept with 2 other dudes as well so was probably feeling a bit guilty about is and he's throwing their faith in her face.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 02:10 PM
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I mean shes n=4 (admitted) going into the season and the dude who was saying that to her is a reformed man whore. She can do what she wants with that sort of hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 10:11 AM
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Pah. You can too but you can't aim for shit. Neither can we but at least we have women to clean the bathroom for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 06:04 PM
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Lol come work in advertising. You absolutely do have hookups with your coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 05:41 PM
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I mean if you aren't a dude you've likely not had it happen. It's not that uncommon for a woman to ask you to buy her a drink pretty much anywhere I've lived (oddly except London). I've had a handful of friends buy those drinks and the woman just say thanks and walk off. Not suggesting it's an epidemic or anything but it does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 04:45 PM
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Gotta wait until tomorrow sorry :(
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 03:19 PM
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Heh dont get me wrong, if you want to go up to a random guy on a street and demand a drink then fair enough. Most guys will probably look at you a bit weird. In a bar, if a chick asks you to buy her a drink you reasonably expect you'll at least have a chat. Just part of normal culture in those places. Besides, you probably want guys to keep offering to buy drinks for women right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 02:58 PM
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You are right that its a bit of a covert contract but I think that its overblown here. Offering to buy a drink is a conversation opener. If she just takes it and walks off then its a breach of that. Sex is a bit of a stretch haha. More egregious is the woman who asks you to buy her a drink and then doesnt give you the time of day. You can spot them a mile away. Over 30, overweight, usually in a nightclub trying to take advantage of some wasted younger fellas.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 01:57 PM
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Haha upvote. I always find it funny with nerdy guys in particular that they havent read World War Z because it made exactly your point. All of the analysts and consultants ended up working for the people who they used to employ because they actually had skills needed in a post apocalyptic world. Reckon I'd survive the initial flight and die of some disease or easily curable bug for reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 12:07 PM
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I agree with you 100% on this and I'm pleasantly surprised to see the Toxic Masculinity point actually. As a former international athlete who served his country I find it difficult to understand, much less respect, this need to be able to talk through feelings and stuff. Maybe some guys do but I know that for me, and a lot of friends - some of whom who have had diagnosed depression - the side by side time and a plan of action is far more of a relief than showing where the world touched you on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 11:59 AM
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Ok, thats kinda the point of the thread. Anything that really stands out?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 11:56 AM
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I've actually not heard it expressed like this before. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 11:50 AM
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Stoic doesn't mean serious all the time Yeah OP has a weird definition of stoic...... its just about bearing hardships without complaining i.e. dont bitch to women you want to bone. If you don't show it women won't find out Do you really think you can think something and it not bleed into your day to day interactions? I mean that as an interrogative rather than accusatory. I think I'd struggle. It has such a big following because it works like magic. I mean.... does it? There arent that many red…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 11:00 AM
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Non bottom tier guys will do ok in committed relationships but they aren't going to be striking gold very often otherwise. Thinking of a couple of my friends who hit the bill, maybe scoring twice a year with fatties. The guy you are responding to is one of the biggest proponents of WaW and probably considers that to be a smashing success.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 07:14 AM
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Agreed and thanks for writing this. I do think the latency period between childbirth and marriage breakdown is pretty long on most cases as the lovelessness isn't completely obvious. It is still a pretty good way to destroy your relationship though. Kids grow up, they won't need you as much or be around you as much and then you are stuck with the partner you've neglected or getting fat in front of the TV alone (hi America!).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 06:43 AM
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We are. This is a dumb thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 06:33 AM
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Not sure if it's the most important thing in getting sex overall (probably confidence) but I've noticed an extreme change in frequency and quality of sex when I've been slimmer and/or had a more defined musculature.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 09:27 PM
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So drained. Had Wimbledon, F1, cricket and tour all on at one point and half of those were tense as hell. Pretty elated with the way that worked out though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 06:34 PM
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Agreed entirely. Probably why none of the better red posters here actually post on TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 01:56 PM
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Congrats on 225. My first rep on that remains my favourite lift, maybe tied with getting over the psychological plateau of deadlifting more than 315.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 09:05 AM
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Is it summer holidays?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 08:48 AM
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Potentially another exciting TdF day as well. Fortunately I'm going to a bar where they have like 40 TVs so hopefully we can catch all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 08:47 AM
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I was always happy enough to date MC women but my wife managed to conceal her true class from me so I guess I've dated up considerably.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 02:54 PM
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Agreed. Male respect is tinged with honour overtones whereas the sort of respect that women talk about is more universal. Guys would just call it being a nice person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 02:47 PM
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That's certainly one way to describe the audience, except I argue that it's not only incorrect and lazy but that such a description only further supports my OP. Is TRP's audience best described as "betas"? Wouldn't an alternative description be: Men who are/were unsuccessful with women in some way? Again, why do TRP men inherently lower themselves to "beta" just because they had an imperfect relationship with a woman? I think your description is actually markedly worse. TRPs intended audience is…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 02:08 PM
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You are both right really. It's probably just love transferred to the kid and the husband has been ignored. Welcome to divorce a few years down the line when she suddenly feels like they are just room mates and doesn't recognise her own part in it. On the other hand if the relationship was always pointed at marriage and/or kids then yes it's not unreasonable to assume that he was always being used as a provider and that the love is of a more platonic nature than the real desire that most guys be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 09:56 AM
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You have a couple of questions in this one I think. TRP's narrative is that if a woman isn't fucking you, she doesn't love you. Further, if you're in a relationship with or married to a woman who has stopped fucking you, it's because she never truly "loved" you. Regardless of whether you are or were a "high-value" man (alpha qualities) because your SO has stopped fucking you, you are by TRP definition, actually a beta schmuck and always were. Remember TRP and MRPs core audience. It's AFCs and be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 09:45 AM
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Yeah and you make a fair point. Just wanted to add that it's not truly equal pay for equal work in this sense and that's why the men's teams tend to make more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:42 PM
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The big reason in the UK is that it's ridiculously easy to be a top 8 women's team. The majority of the competition are amateur footballers from 3rd world nations. The US (and British national teams) have to face a cavalcade of talent just to qualify for the finals and it's possible for a team to have some of the world's finest players but not make it (see Wales and Netherlands).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:34 PM
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I think the important thing to consider is that this is just national team pay right? That's pretty low anyway and arguably you should have equal pay for representing your country anyway. Women aren't going to be pulling in Neymar money any time soon - they aren't good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:24 PM
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Well this is the AFCs which are TRPs actual intended audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:47 PM
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Good post. I think the thing with therapy is that it tends to be pretty good for women, in fact a lot of my female friends attend therapy pretty regularly, whereas men can struggle to find the right therapist for their needs - which perpetuates it being harder to find a good one for talking to men etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 07:06 AM
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Happens in my gym alllll the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 04:45 PM
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I mean the HAES movement is a fucking joke lol. Not sure how effective these movements are anyway but at least men have numbers on their side in a similar fashion to the LGBT movement/feminism if needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 03:11 PM
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This seems appropriate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kbSfFFEvxw The real answer ofc is that its not really about women at all but about when you finally feel content with yourself. And as any real gymbro will tell you, all those gains will only compound your self image problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 02:05 PM
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This is a good attitude. Sure it might cut off some men from your dating pool but it sounds like you've realised you'd rather be alone than with them anyway. Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 07:40 AM
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Hey look. An actual guy in an actual relationship answering this. Have an upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 08:45 PM
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The Scandinavians used to be big on this. As a man your nephews (sisters children at least) were certainly blood relatives and had pretty much son status.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 08:31 PM
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Hah. You would think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 11:23 AM
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Eh I've been posting there for longer than PPD. It used to be somewhat better, reflecting the attitudes of guys around me. Also used to be guys in normal relationships on there fielding questions Seems to have been swamped by Gen Z inexperienced guys or super liberal tossers just looking for validation or to push their world view on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 08:41 AM
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Lol go check askmen which is basically simpville
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 06:36 AM
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Shit. It's all like 'you should throw yourself at him so the oblivious fuck won't miss it!'. Which ofc is a fine way to get plated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 10:03 PM
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Sex is a pretty small part of the relationship. Not sure why you are so fixated on it. You also dont seem to understand how relationships work. Have you ever had one? The best sex you'll get from women is in the honeymoon phase of a relationship (first 18 months), particularly when young. Now sure, some guys will probably replicate this with a FWB but thats hardly attainable for a lot of guys nor particularly desirable given the propensity of humans to catch feels when having sex. You know you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 10:30 AM
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On the contrary, there is nothing pure about a woman's desire for commitment as she wants a guy to use his resources to pay for her (and potential kids), and she wants less fiscal responsibility on her shoulders. This primarily. Men recognise that they get something back from a good relationship. No one with a spine is going to sign up to just be a provider. Most women dont want to be in a relationship where they are taking all the time. However I think you've also missed the point of my post. G…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 10:24 AM
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Or more they like spending time with their SO, enjoy having lots of better sex with their SO for far less investment, enjoy the emotional as well as physical intimacy that comes with a relationship and maybe want to have a family one day and relationships are the vehicle for that unless you are only boning trash tier women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 09:46 AM
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Disagree. There is something far more constructive about building a relationship and a life together than about 30 mins of sweaty gyrating. There is a reason that most guys, who are getting enough sex, want a relationship and not just more meaningless hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:26 AM
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Hence the welfare state. Full childcare provision and lots of parental leave, along with parental benefits make it easier to raise kids alone. Hell there was even talk about women banding together in communes to share the load.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:18 AM
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Dont get me wrong, I do like their programming. Just think that their focus on speed at the expense of form is one of the dumbest things to get into a workout format.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:48 PM
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Ehhhh shes basically saying to go after betas after she went after alphas and eventually got her BB. She's kinda right with what shes saying but its just a verbalisation of the epiphany phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 12:19 PM
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Right, I mean all of those things should really. I dont see any real impediment to looking good because you want to look good. Women are organic payoffs to improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:04 AM
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Physique, wardrobe, facial and hair grooming are the ones you can very easily get started on. Having an interest and/or passion is a pretty good one as well. It could even be Crossfit (jk dont do crossfit).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:46 AM
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You'll easily be able to get between London and Edinburgh using public transport. Its not too hard to get to Snowdonia either but I havent been to the Cairgorns myself. If you do go to Snowdonia you can take in Bath and maybe the Cotswolds also.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:38 AM
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Ah I get you. Well hopefully you can make it next year. Anywhere in particular you'd want to visit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:12 AM
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Where are you coming from? We have visa free travel or visa waivers with most western countries. July/August is super expensive anyway. If you can wait til mid September you'll get good weather at half the cost - only thing you'll miss would be the long days.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 07:40 AM
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Depends how long you want it to last IMO. I have some friends with young kids who are extremely beta these days. Can only assume they will be getting DBd hard at some point but theyve had a few good years and seem happy enough to trade a romantic/sex life for being a parent - for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:35 AM
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Just finished it. I forgot how short the season are :(
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 08:16 PM
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ITT: reskinned sell me this pen
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 12:37 PM
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I know two guys who have been crazily successful with women. One is really tall, rich and has a really extro personality, the other is the front man for a band. Wouldn't have said either were really better looking than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 09:02 AM
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Oh I'm not in a dead bedroom. I've had periods of less sex than I'd like though, corrected by a mix of physical improvement and increased assertion. Sometimes I'd agree that a relationship is beyond saving but I suspect that most started off ok and unless infidelity is involved are probably recoverable with some effort. Women want a man to lead so there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 07:46 PM
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Personally I'd rather try and fail than just walk away without trying. I've definitely found introspection and self improvement to trigger a good response in my own marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 07:28 PM
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It does, sometimes, make other people want to better themselves too though. Plus it takes away a potential cause, or multiple causes, of discord by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 07:19 PM
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Fine line between that and being in denial frankly. That's not to say there isn't a point where further self improvement isn't more costly than just leaving but I'd bet that most people who make that decision skipped that step altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 07:11 PM
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Lol? You can do what you want but if you haven't taken the time to be introspective before walking out then you probably aren't going to be successful in the next relationship either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 07:02 PM
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Right it's a lot of shit flinging here now. Couple of years ago there were more soft opinions, a little empathy and some real insights. That's very rare now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 08:46 AM
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Honest answer - I never really enjoyed dating around. Id have a favourite girl I'd want to spend time with more than the others so they were the only one I prioritised. Generally tried to do more stuff with my friends to combat the clingy, make sure they werent feeling neglected and doing fun shit that maybe wasnt appropriate for dates anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 01:59 PM
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Congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 12:44 PM
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Were ok on land as well. Just a little busy fighting the French and pacifying India to send more than 3rd rate troops over to fight in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 10:27 AM
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Agreed. There are creeps and there are criminals and we, as men, arent going to have visibility on a lot of this. Also agree on women making the first move, has happened a few times with me and with my friends - and we clearly arent 8/9/10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 02:35 PM
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1) Nope. In fact the only violence I've ever seen in the home was committed by a woman. Repeatedly attacking her husband and children. She has, we believe, an undiagnosed (kinda? one of the people who believes this is a doctor) personality disorder. 2) No. People dont call the police on women. 3) Yup, kinda hard to miss it when it was my fist. No it was obviously an accident. She dodged when she should have dipped. I was trying to punch my mate and she walked right into it. Her mates were not im…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:57 PM
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Not at all, more tactics which are employed by a huge amount of non-RP men. Lying about your job has been part of pick up chat since I've been alive as an example. Im now head dolphin trainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 11:52 AM
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Its not but its clearly not invented, or even really advocated, by TRP now is it. Trying to translate 'outside' into 'anti' is a bit of a stretch by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 11:42 AM
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Lying for one lol. The age old tried and tested method.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:44 AM
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There are a lot of manipulation methods outside of TRP tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 05:54 PM
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It is. I'd definitely shoot for being PPD mod if I was OP though, I hear all the ladies love that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 10:48 AM
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Well this is probably the saddest post I've seen in here. Why wouldnt you get a gym membership, some fancy haircuts, upgrade the wardrobe and get some cool ass hobbies before going straight to buying a plane?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 09:46 AM
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I would have said any country that has had a 1st or 2nd generation massive spike in the standard of living, resulting in extreme entitlement. Saudi's have kinda been that way for a while but there arent that many of them compared to the hordes of rich south and east asians.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:31 PM
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Well yes I agree about MGTOW (and incels for that matter) and their views on single mothers. Its born more from vitriol and tribalism than anything on their end it seems. I'm speaking more from the position of someone seeing a lot of older guys I know (including my father) in the dating market. Agree about the step-father thing also. Its awkward for everyone involved and there isnt really a way of knowing if the guy is going to be a good one even if he has his own kids. Seems to me like keeping …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 10:35 AM
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Isn't really about glory or shame so much as a group of guys trying to highlight that single mothers are not good dating prospects - and yes there is a fair amount of social pressure applied to older, more stable guys, to man up and date them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 07:40 AM
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Quite. I agree with the general premise but the detail is extreme. As a better example, my college roommate was amazing with women, full Chad really. He was the lead singer of a band but you wouldnt know that up front. His real hook for women was this big curly hair he had. It was unclean and unkempt but holy shit did women (and gays) always approach him to ask about it or to touch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 06:44 AM
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Well women kinda get the most important advice as part of mainstream culture so you are just tinkering around the edges. The current cultural temperature even works to relieve women of responsibility for shit choices as well so they don't face anywhere near the same risks unless they end up pregnant abandoned or facing some sort of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 02:00 PM
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Well yeah in Europe people still walk around instead of driving everywhere and the Latin countries are still big smokers. The old Aryan nations are much more into body building style fitness, along with irresponsible drinking and eating loads of avo toast
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 01:25 PM
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You are right that the gym isn't going to do a lot by itself. Go watch Bradley Martyn try and pick up girls, he's useless as fuck in spite of being big, if smaller than Dom. Lifting does a couple of things that do help though. It is something you can go do immediately, starting the path of self improvement. It builds self confidence in the way you look, which can come remove a limiting factor in 'just being yourself', allows you a wider range of clothes you can look good in and gives you at leas…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:35 AM
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Do you read the sidebar of this sub? It's effectively a sub that discusses the merits of the red pill, a male sexual strategy. From that start point alone it's not exactly level setting at a completely gender neutral start point. However, yes the top comments generally tend to be male positive or female negative. This is for a few reasons: 1) population. There are more male users and a majority of those are red, red adjacent or - more recently - black pill. Those users will organically upvote si…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:30 AM
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I agree it's completely backwards but he has a point when you read the data in context. It's also super insignificant, less than 1 average partner from top to bottom percentile for women regardless which way around you have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 06:18 PM
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I mean that's exactly the point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 06:00 PM
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Yeah sorta. I think for the most part the crazy ones were crazy beforehand but there are a lot of people who change for the worse over time with enough comfort. Kids often seem the biggest catalyst for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 05:59 PM
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Yeah I think this is the core of the AWALT issue isn't it. If it was always freaking obvious which women were going to act in those ways then men would just avoid them and it wouldnt be called AWALT lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 02:57 PM
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You are right if you mean the incels but your AFC..... Hardly that damaging if he self rights a bit, sleeps around for a short period, realises it's shit then goes and gets more equal relationship than be would have been in before wouldn't you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 02:52 PM
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Its essentially a B and the gateway grade for all graduate programs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 10:28 AM
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I mean its not hard to accept that they might find a 25-35 body attractive but just want maturity and experience in a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 03:40 PM
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Yeah it's happened to me. She was a bit of an athlete groupie with a reputation of being easy. I was also hugely enamoured with her room mate and she was kinda talking me through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 06:35 PM
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I'm in Europe. Well fitting trousers show off a good ass and legs. When you take the jacket off (90% of the day) a slim shirt shows off arms, shoulders and chest. Even jacket on accentuates shoulder definition and back width. Depends where you are though. Meeting people outside of work or a wedding and you likely aren't wearing a suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 08:58 PM
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You realise that women said the exact same thing in the gender flipped thread right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:59 AM
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It's part of the looksmax conversation really. There is probably a bigger difference for men between acceptable and attractive than there is for women (where hair and makeup probably plays more of a role). I also think that you can conceal a bad figure with clothes but part of being generally aesthetic probably does mean having the right sort of body to reveal l, not just conceal. You are right about th climate to an extent but tight clothes are in fashion all year round.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:50 AM
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Agree with this. I do think it's harder for men to get the type of body that women find attractive (not just acceptable) but there is an awful lot of disregard for the much higher effort that goes into clothes and makeup (arguably hair but that's contentious).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:41 AM
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Our bodies are extremely efficient when doing things for a long period of time. It's why HIIT is so popular these days, mix it up and go full throttle and it burns about the same in 30 mins as running in 45.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:14 PM
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Treadmills assume you are like 160 which is too low for most 6ft guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:19 PM
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Well look at it this way. My TDEE is about 2300. 25% less than that is 1725. If she's eating 1400 normally then she's already way under that, around 60% of my daily calorie intake. All figures pre-workout ofc, which I assume I do a lot more of.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:38 PM
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Yup. Thats before you add in the additional burden women face with all the clothes and makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:03 PM
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As a college track guy - you are kidding yourself if you think those guys are just running lol. You spend about a third of the time weight training. Its just part of the usual ignorance you see around here to assume that athletes just turn up after a casual beer and bang out a quick mile.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 10:30 AM
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Not that guy but you are right. Lot of studies show that men find bigger men attractive but women like a leaner look. If you go to Bradley Martyn's YouTube channel you can see a couple of episodes where he asks women to rate his, big bodybuilding, body against a cross fit Asian friend and loses handsomely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:41 AM
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Hah this is a Dom mazzetti line. 'As long as you don't have a gut, women think you have abs. The only people who care about you having a super low bodyfat percentage are other dudes.'
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 09:46 PM
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Pretty much. You don't have to know how a sausage is made to enjoy sausages after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 09:38 PM
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All right well you have a nice day then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 09:41 AM
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No reason not to be civil though. You've already said twice that you'd rather be right, even in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence, than civil and that's why your guy's views aren't welcome here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 08:45 AM
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Oh please. People won't come and debate if it's just a bunch of people slagging each other off. Go to any reputable debating society, there are strict rules to maintain both quality of debate and civility amongst debaters. If you wish to flout both of those I suggest you find a bar in which to spit your nonsense. I'll help you find your teeth when you are done.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 08:21 AM
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There are multiple good reasons to ban incel content. Not least, it's unpleasant talking to a large number of them. At least you can debate RPers. One of the key things about the self improvement part of it is that it is reproducible and testable and that it's pretty easy to compare to the mainstream. Blackpill is basically just all the worst parts of the Rollo esque social commentary which often runs counter to any and all statistical evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 08:16 AM
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All those things could be true enough. I do think they apply to these people though. They are very willing to discuss that they are going to therapy, what they are going to therapy for and to recommend therapists they've tried. They are unburdening themselves to their friends (myself included). I find the whole thing oddly mature of them but it's pretty obviously just something which they've grown used to when growing up with money and seeing it normalised amongst friends and relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 06:29 AM
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I do find it a bit odd that therapy seems to largely be availed by women in my social circle, when they are supposedly the ones with close family and friends to unburden themselves to. Given that men can't easily do this you'd think paying a pro would be a natural solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 08:29 PM
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Right. I think I know all of one dude who married a single mother and ended up with a biological kid. I think the far more common scenario is that stepdad has a bio kid of his own somewhere and just marries a divorced woman out of a lack of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:51 AM
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That's part of the anger phase. It's not just the feeling of being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:36 AM
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Not just given up but propagating the idea that there was never any chance they could succeed. Basically making an excuse that they can't succeed therefore not bothering to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 08:17 PM
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Sure. My wife kinda dragged me out for date 1. Most stark memories are in clubs when 2 women have come up to me, grabbed my hands in theirs and put them on their boobs/pussy without saying a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 05:42 PM
3

Happy father's Day to the dad's of PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 07:45 AM
4

Rec leagues are the real winner. Seems 9000 times easier to do this in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 07:23 AM
4

Well biological kids are made with birds and bees but storks deliver stepkids. With a bazooka.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 02:29 PM
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You do realise that stepkids and biological kids are two different things right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 02:21 PM
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If anything men are already too female socialised. This everyone is a winner mentality is a bunch of BS. My grandads generation used loss to fuel competition and come back stronger next time. They also took loss and rejection as gentleman instead of spewing out like a bitter cunt all over everything. Those who did not meet these basic requirements were social outcasts more or less - no internet to backstop people into believing they were special.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 07:43 AM
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I guess all the guys without a sense of self esteem haha. Totally agree btw. I was recently asked to give a motivational speech to a bunch of teens about the difficulties of my earlier life. They are something it's easy to put no stock into at all because they are a part of you - doesn't mean people won't find them fascinating if you give them th chance though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 07:36 AM
2

....jammerly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 06:40 AM
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This OP likely is only relevant to the young SMP. Honestly I think you'd both expect and not judge women putting out early in their mid 30s onwards
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 06:37 AM
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In my experience it's true that they are doing the same with other guys which does make it a major slut tell. You just have to work out if you care or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 06:32 AM
5

This is why I signed up to be Military Police. Double the rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 05:38 PM
5

Right? I'd enjoy my newfound exuberant sex life and find a way to trade her in for someone hotter
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 03:23 PM
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Nope. Do what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 01:20 PM
1

Been watching a lot of gym humour videos lately - I wonder how much of RP is born from mockery of gym culture vs actual gym culture lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 09:42 AM
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I know a few people who met their SOs in bars in other UK cities or even smaller towns. Then again they were girls who did the approaches so maybe not the best barometer for PUA success lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 06:34 PM
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Very much this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 04:52 PM
3

Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/wiki/terms
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 12:36 PM
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Then delete your post or move to automod. This No Pill flair you are wearing isnt fooling anyone lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:48 AM
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Look you seem nice enough so I'll give you my honest POV. but I feel like I’d notice women staring, giving me looks, and coming up to me. Its a trope that men dont notice these things. Ask /u/MercedesBenzoAMG and I about some of the howlers we've missed. Your posts ooze lack of confidence so its not hard to see why you'd miss attention. Plus tinder is a thing, and I’ve seen some of the overtly sexual messages attractive men get on tinder (r/tinder gets a drop of bragging threads every now and ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:48 AM
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You sound like younger me, getting shit loads of IoIs - even getting straight up hit on sometimes - and not noticing it haha
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:32 AM
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Decapitation is a tried and tested method for changing both.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:03 AM
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Naw thats just bitch thinking. Sure there is a point where you cant increase your looks but I'd argue that, for 90% of dudes, that is far above the point that you need to be to get IoIs or positive responses to your approaches lol. The rest is all in fun/charisma/confidence and thats very obviously where y'all keep failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:02 AM
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This whole thread is propagated on the idea that you are just going to settle down with some thot the second you catch the attention of one. The way I see it this can easily be avoided in two ways: 1) If you are worried that she doesnt like you enough compared to guys like your brother - increase your value until you are. When chicks are sucking you off within 2 hours you wont be feeling that way. 2) Just pump and dump those chicks. You have no obligation, moral or otherwise, to treat them as th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 09:39 AM
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length 6'2. Ima go ahead and send this guy over to /r/bigdickproblems
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 08:48 AM
1

You are a red now?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 08:36 AM
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The hot friends I have who use it are just using it to supplement their real life options. Tellingly, none of them has ever had a good date from online and they end up dating guys from their social circle anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 07:13 AM
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Yeah this is mental. The whole trope about the fat, funny guy with the hot chick didn't spring out of nowhere....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 04:17 PM
3

That thigh rub though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 06:34 AM
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I think I sorta did the same thing. As a kid I'd love to read books alone when I wasn't doing other stuff. As I got older though I socialised more and got a positive feedback loop going on that conditioned me to seek out those experiences instead - it was fun. I got a buzz after going out with people that I wanted to recreate more than I wanted to read by myself. I still do that quite a bit but do feel pretty at these days if I haven't been out doing something fun for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 06:30 AM
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Manifestly not otherwise the red pill wouldn't exist. Oh sure you might get people saying to dress up and don't be fat but a lot of the other stuff isn't particularly common and often contrary advice is given in its stead - even by well meaning friends
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 07:49 PM
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Different world some of these people are living in.....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 06:28 PM
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Wut? You arent worried that a skank might be riddled with STDs? Edit: just noticed that you said about potentially catching something. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 04:36 PM
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I mean you can take it that way if you like but I think, if you are being genuine, you'll agree that a lot of RP advice is that you need to take ownership of your own attractiveness and assertiveness because women find attractive what they find attractive. Watch what they do, not what they say is pretty good advice in a number of situations. Like a lot of RP advice its a pedestal destroyer aimed at bursting that BP mindset with nothing more than real world observation. It might not always be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 04:34 PM
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I think most men are. OP apparently had a bad experience with church and a previous bf and now thinks all men are gangland thugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 03:05 PM
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Im not Red but this is utter crap. TRP absolutely blames the guy if he isnt getting what he wants. Sure it also paints women in a certain, overgeneralised, light but you cant suggest that it doesnt lay the blame squarely on men. You've conflated MGTOW and Incels with the core red message.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 03:01 PM
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Fair enough. Most Yanks I've spoken to have said 'i went to school at x' I think. They havent gone peak Brit until they start truncating it down to 'So where did you go to uni?'
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 01:52 PM
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Thus rewarding, and incenvitising, rape. Congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 11:53 AM
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Not really. The person I trust most of all in the world is me. If I want something done I will do it, so long as I have the ability to do so. Why on earth would I want to be reliant on someone else to do what I need? Doesnt mean the wife or my assistants at work dont help out, even take a bit of initiative themselves from time to time but ultimately if something is important to ME ill be the one making sure its done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 10:45 AM
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Semantics. The only refrain from team woman on the whole subject is that men consent to the sex which creates the child. Remove that consent and there isnt an argument that you have left. You are arguing for legalised spermjacking which frankly is abhorrent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 10:41 AM
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Adding 'imperative' and 'crisis' to the list of words that PPD exaggerates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 09:28 AM
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A lot of your television shows are written by Brits and other popular ones are just straight British productions. I suspect this is the source of it. Also... there are a lot of colleges in the US called 'University of....' no?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 09:16 AM
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Aaaand woe is me posting surely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:19 AM
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It's probably not relevant at all unless you consider PPD to be your primary dating pool lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 05:46 AM
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cut the selfish ones quickly. That's pretty drastic xD
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 05:44 AM
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Fair enough, withdrawn that. The last time I looked at a different source and it had sex as a higher tier. I think we can all agree that nowhere does it say you need to have meaningless sex with a large number of partners though haha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 07:30 PM
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Whilst I don't believe that sex is a nice-to-have I also don't believe that sex for pleasure counts fulfills 'of vital importance'. It's necessary for mental health and for happiness but you won't die without it nor can you live an unfulfilled life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 06:40 PM
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Sex is a means to that imperative, not the imperative itself. If all you want to do is have sex there are lots of hookers who will be happy to relieve you of your cash in order to meet that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 06:15 PM
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Ask yourself what the endgame of having sex with all those women is if not to propagate your genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 05:57 PM
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Two biggest changes are probably that it normalises some more kinky, or even extreme, activity and that it makes sex more about the act than the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 11:00 AM
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So yes I agree with the body of your text - vicarious experience is not particularly strong experience. You are limited by what people are willing to let you see and even this sub should be proof enough that what people show you is either very positive or very negative biased. However I'll disagree a little bit - somewhat on technical reasons. I'm married just for context. Firstly, a lot depends on what sort of relationships you have. A person in a ten year, co-habiting relationship probably doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 09:31 AM
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Got some insight on this one salty?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 08:16 AM
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Ditto.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 09:08 PM
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Am man, dont do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 10:22 AM
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Eh there are some weird circumstances (getting blown in a club bathroom etc) but for the most part I agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 08:12 AM
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Bad wording on my part. You know it's there and you just aren't able to do it. It's one of only a few things you can't happily go do by yourself (unless willing to use hookers ofc)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 07:35 AM
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Who cares what other people think? Sex is mostly a primal urge for guys. It's like living with one arm behind your back to go without it for that long. I believe it's easier for women though, theyll just get the baby rabies at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 07:22 AM
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We typically associate sexlessness with total emotional and physical isolation. Right. If a person went without sex, but still had friends they could be happy and close to, I think they'd be totally fine. It wouldn't be as exciting, but a lot of the desire for sex comes from a desire for social validation and the embrace of another human being. Nah. Think of all the things you take for granted in a relationship. It's not just the same. Even if you can fill the emotional and physical holes left y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 06:49 AM
2

Ah yes. Bahrain is the hot spot of the SMP, how could we forget.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 06:34 AM
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Yeah. I'm sure the other stuff is like putting marizpan on a cake but otherwise it's just a matter of how many and whether she's willing to do it with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 06:32 AM
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I'm talking about these specific guys. In general I agree that it's dietary but these guys all used to be athletes who have gone from active to sedentary and veeerrryy slowly gained weight. There are other factors in play like kids
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 10:04 PM
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Lack of exercise in most of these cases. The difference between those who exercise hard at least once a week Vs those who don't is like night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 06:54 PM
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I think you are assuming that women are just looking for sex - that much they can get with little effort. Locking down a high value man for a committed relationship requires more and that is girl game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 06:28 PM
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Sure I'd agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 03:36 PM
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To be sexually noticed, you just have to be woman. Reminds me of that lonely island song: Cause honestly I'd have sex with a pile of manure
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 03:17 PM
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Yup. Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 03:14 PM
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If she's using "girl game" to tell flattering lies to her man when she doesn't actually admire him, the attraction and the relationship is not sustainable. Eventually, she will get sick of flattering him and it'll all go down the toilet. Thats rather irrelevant. She doesnt have to date or sleep with him if she doesnt want to but she did capture his attention and interest - which is the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 02:51 PM
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Where are all the good men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 02:38 PM
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Was at a stag (bachelor for the yanks) party this weekend. Man have a lot of my older friends let themselves go big time. I feel like I need to stay in an image conscious job because those of us in advertising look great but all the lawyers and accountants are obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 09:28 AM
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Ditto. Hair maybe adds half an inch lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 09:03 AM
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Missing the opportunity to call it beta bucks lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 08:47 PM
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I'm surprised they didn't monetise sooner actually. Lot of desperate and weak men buying into something which they could have learnt by reading a couple of books, getting a gym membership and doing a bit of internet sleuthing. It's like getting people to buy into Scientology without even having to convince anyone that aliens exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 08:19 PM
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This. OP has apparently managed to miss the entire concept of Covert Contracts at the core of RP 101. Smooth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 01:49 PM
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Weirdly bad grasp ITT actually. I've seen far better responses in other places on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 09:23 AM
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How's it being rewarded lol. They literally aren't getting what they want....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 09:22 AM
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Canada? I only ask because the countries with higher amounts of 'equality' fall back hard on gender norms - Denmark being the flagship but the other Scandinavian countries pretty much the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 09:20 AM
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You are reading too much into bad word choice I think. The guys who say that women 'reward' bad men with sex are just talking about the propensity for women to sleep with men who have, what they view as, undesirable traits. Not that these guys have checked off sex bingo and are going to claim their free sex winnings. Im not completely convinced that sex is entirely something thats done purely out of desire either, there is always a bit of room for maintenance sex in an LTR which is a bit of a bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 04:42 PM
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Lol I was skinny, had terrible acne (like referred to a doctor for medical treatment bad), had no car and was a terrible dresser (no money). Was pretty anxious about all things involving women back then. Once you get out of your own way things get a lot easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 01:00 PM
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Got most of a bottle of choloform for some unconscious play in the bedroom as well. Brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 12:45 PM
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If a guy makes one woman wet he probably makes all of them wet. Maybe not to the same degree but at least some attraction is there. Eh? There are women who find all sorts of things attractive. Women with yellow fever will find asian dudes attractive but other women might not. Hell, some women find guys like Steve Buscemi hot. Successful guys don't need to worry because they can outcompete (most if not all) their competition. Hence why they have no insecurities because they know they're the shit.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 12:43 PM
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Haha yes. See my now-wife did that when she was 23 and that level of forward planning is definitely a wife material trait. She's a keeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 12:18 PM
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Most women don't want providers, they have their own money. The problem is that she's been with better guys and he doesn't compare to the better stuff she's been with. Lemme ask you this: do you think men don't get better at pleasing their partner over time? You think that one ONS compares to the best sex in an LTR? Average n count is between 5 and 9 I think you missed a zero My bad. Average n count is 0.5 to 0.9
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:54 AM
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So yes women can have both; but not every guy can fit this bill. In fact most guys either have one or neither unfortunately. Well thats just horseshit isnt it........ How many women do you think honestly reckon that their SO is only pretty or only a provider (or neither)? Its a subjective matter and yes some men might be able to be both for more women than others but thats hardly justifying the solipism you are trotting out here. Also most women have a wild phase (usually multiple wild phases). …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:31 AM
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I feel like you've consolidated a lot of nuanced points, some that I do agree with, into one sweeping argument which I don't. Yes its pretty obvious that the guys who are sexually attracted to sans relationship traits are the guys who they are sexually attracted to lol. Res Ipsa Loquitur. The types of guys women choose when they are young wild and free. These are the fun, exciting, wild and yes... hot guys. These days women don't need to choose husband material when they are 20, they look to set…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:01 AM
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That's not really the case. Smoogs made a post a while back kinda proving that better looking women tend to have fewer partners. It's average looking chicks pairing off with 'studs'. Better looking women are locking down their ideal man with n counts around the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 06:28 AM
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Yeah generally my experience as well. Im sure there are a few women who struggle otherwise but I don't know many who didn't just end up working it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:22 PM
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It's kinda enjoyable if you don't expect anything particularly artsy. The bad guys have a really illogical motivation but the monster fights are cool!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:09 PM
2

Haha you'll never drink again - until next time. Enjoy the movie!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 08:39 PM
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The rape thing was gross AF in fairness (what you linked didn't have the full context). I do find it strange that people will demand empathy from another group of people whilst failing to display any themselves. And I’m not writing off men as babies. No man I know IrL behaves like those around here. I’m 100% writing off the loudest whiniest men of this sub as such. I rather doubt anyone acts IRL like they do on Reddit. I'd be a raving misogynist if I was judging women by the holier than thou, to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 07:20 PM
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Agreed. I dont even know how much of an 'obsession' people have with it here. It's just one of those roundabout topics that goes to the core of RP commentary so comes up fairly frequently. This seems more like an opportunity for OP to attempt the whole 'I am superior to thou!' with language such as this: The whole thing is bit viscerally gross to me. Even if I logically understand that’s just the nature of males. N count isn’t about the woman. It’s about the male desire for having a bunch of “un…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 05:01 PM
2

Happy cake day. Maybe get in the gym. I'm 33 and my body feels great, libido is almost at 18 year old levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 04:47 PM
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Sure. I at least hope I'm a decent High Beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 04:02 PM
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When I was younger - potential for sure. In fact this is what I did. There wasnt nagging or anything but a general sense of the life we wanted to build and a desire to go about building it. If I were single today I wouldnt be able to do that. I'm fairly close to peak and imagine that I'll only be gaining some beta points from here on in. If I'm not good enough for her now I wouldnt want to be with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 03:29 PM
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Idk. Sure if the guy is calm enough to think logically through it. I imagine a) a lot of confrontations over nothing and b) what happens when its a friend/brother or something and now there is a nice grand rumour? What happens if she cant find a good job because no reputable firm wants to hire a pornstar etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 03:01 PM
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Agreed. Its funny that people are arguing that a guy who can achieve everything else that he wants in his life isnt able to get sex. This is the core of what RP has as its 'mission'. Also, any guy having regular sex doesnt define his life by it. It will be career, family etc
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 12:53 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/bun6kp/my_boyfriend_got_drunk_popped_a_bunch_of_benzos Haha is this you /u/mercedesbenzoamg
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 09:40 AM
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Guess I'll go against the grain here. I've always wanted a family. I don't particularly like kids but I do want to have had them. Not especially an epiphany phase for me. I'm very high FTO and a lot of work from the age of about 11 went into making it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 06:38 AM
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As someone who prefers to vet partners - this is a terrible thing. How many pornstars out there haven't been doxxed anyway? There isn't a way this wouldn't be repurposed for other things (visa and job applications are especially worrying) and it's almost certainly going to throw up lots of false positives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 06:28 AM
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I mean you have to do whats right for you. Personally I think things have been very special for us since we got married, its just the natural progression of life instead of some breakwater moment. We let ourselves learn a lot about what made a good partner for each other instead of having to learn it post-wedding which I think would have caused us some bigger issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 12:53 PM
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Guinness is creamy. IPAs do taste like acid to an unused palate. Try a lager or something before graduating up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 10:48 AM
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I don't. When you're over 30, the benefit of waiting a couple years before marriage or deciding to have kids is to allow your SO to mess up so you can leave them and start again before it's too complicated. Thats a rather negative way of describing compatibility. Diving headfirst into marriage and kids and then finding out your partner is a cheating drunk isnt exactly a smart move when considering embroiling finances and kids. People with longer relationships pre-marriage are more stable. The ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 10:04 AM
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Depends a lot on how you lived pre-marriage. I lived with my wife prior to marriage so absolutely nothing changed in terms of our relationship dynamics, all of my friends say the same. Children were the big factor in changing lives. My wife also says that being married opened up some doors socially/professionally and closed others so I guess there is a slight personal change that can happen as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 09:29 AM
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Im talking about men wanting to have a certain amount of time with the woman they are going to marry and have kids with - which I'm sure you'll agree is fair from the point of view of a stable family and environment in which to raise children.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 09:26 AM
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Its not even that, its that men want to do things at a pace they are comfortable with and even the most baby rabied dad I know wanted to go slower than the women who want to get married and squeeze out a kid straight away. The reason dudes are dating younger is to give them time to actually have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 08:47 AM
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xD
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 07:16 AM
2

Yeah already met a few. Believe it or not we didn't really chat about pillsphere stuff because everyone has their own interests and lives going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 06:58 AM
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It's amazing. I just wish it was longer than 5 episodes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 08:41 PM
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My wife could get any man whenever she wants, and I couldn't. Hey now I believe you can get any man you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 06:06 PM
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The first time I came across AWALT I generally read it the same way as Cain is saying here. I think it got thrown around a lot by reds who mean it the way you are saying here though. One of the more distorted concepts for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:23 PM
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German women are absolutely the ugliest in Europe IMO. Scandinavians are pretty great.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 11:07 AM
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Exactly. I think in some ways its gotten worse as Ive had gfs and closer friends who are naturally very open and even a little flirty in their everyday interactions with people so ofc I'm going to be a little less presumptuous. I've always had low self-esteem so I find it hard to interpret anything as interest even if maybe it should be obvious, but it is basically accepted amongst all guys that women are much more subtle with their social cues. Haha you are talking to a guy who once missed a su…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 10:49 AM
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Yeah I think this is a factor. When you are a younger dude it's all too easy to read signals this way, especially when low confidence, and quite often that's even pre approach. Once you've done the approach, if you still can't tell - she's lacking a bit of girl game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 06:36 AM
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Congrats you've just discovered what you really need to work on then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 06:07 AM
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Because they drag the debate off the pillsphere and SMP into make believe rubbish. It's all a bit off topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:10 PM
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I'm sure the average redditor is lower SMV than the population average - though it's so popular these days that the two aren't going to be that different. Youve seen some pics of people already, I've seen others and met some IRL. I'm not going to share their pics with you to creep over. Many of the regulars are average at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:06 PM
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No you can't..... The point is that you are suggesting that everyone is low SMV because Reddit at large when at least people that I've met IRL have been better looking than the overwhelming majority of people in those pics
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 11:48 AM
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I've met 6 people from the sub. None were particularly low SMV and a couple would knock your socks off. I've seen pics of a number of others (that I can put a name to, not the mystery ones) and they largely seem to be in that just below to just above average range. Whilst I agree that a number of people are clearly inflating their SMV I don't think you have a lot of leg to stand on here OP
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 11:23 AM
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It's not meant to be but so many of them are here because it's a place where women actually engage with them. They used to be banned but the mods, for some unknown reason, decided to allow them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:41 AM
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Literally no one cares. Young men see it as a bit of fun and the older ladies can still feel sexy in the burning desire of youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:38 AM
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Yes this does happen and has happened to a few men I know. However I think if the rest of the relationship is solid it shouldn't be a problem. Women don't want their man to be a chore and if depression is just one more on a long list of things to worry about they sometimes decide to walk away. I'd probably recommend talking to a doctor or mental health professional first anyway. Coming clean after taking some steps to deal with it is much less impactful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:33 AM
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You can downvote on mobile and in your inbox. You aren't supposed to but as people say, it happens pretty much every time you say something anti incel or that team woman disagrees with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:29 AM
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Was going to say something like this. First you gotta reduce obesity. It's possible to be masculine and have a beer belly but not really in your 20s. Next you need to do something about the boys without a father figure. They'll be shaped too much by their environment which can make feral, gangland, boys in the case of many ethnic minorities or absolute soy boys. One thing about automation and CSR is that we are seeing a growth in corporate voluntary work. All that really needs to happen is for y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 06:53 AM
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See I think you, and women like you, would be ok. You didn't marry an addendum to your life, he's a huge part of it. I think that shared history and experience - along with all those firsts - get people through slumps in their marriages. Its also pretty clear from the numbers that most women are doing something similar. I only know a handful of women in their 30s who aren't even in a relationship and it's them who are probably complaining about the quality of men around - all the good ones got s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 06:44 AM
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Thanks I've not seen that one before. Yeah it's the % of cheating men, not that 83% of men cheat after having a kid - I need coffee haha. Aside from the lack of sleep argument it largely suggests that those men are cheating due to feeling unloved as a result of a baby, which aligns with other suggestions in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 07:47 AM
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Wait, what? You mean 83% of male cheaters cheat after a baby right? What's your source on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 07:30 AM
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Was just about to say something similar. I'm a ball of energy for 10-15 then just want to nap haha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 07:20 AM
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That's referencing a post orgasm loss of erection.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 07:19 AM
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It means to associate sex with intimacy. Meaningless sex divorces sex with intimacy. Yeah this. I remember having a ONS where I was just really bored the whole time. I didn't care about her, she wanted more than sex - it was just weird. I need to care about the person I'm having sex with to enjoy sex. Id be shit at a brothel lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:00 PM
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Yes. They know how they want to be treated but not necessarily what works for success in some workplaces, sports teams, male social circles and in relationships. It's surprisingly easy to condition people and mothers, especially single mothers, have a huge amount of power over a young man's development. That said, even if a mother did somehow help their son to look and feel great, there is no guarantee he is going to come out all alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 07:20 AM
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Even simpler than that - they don't realise they are BB at all in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 08:51 PM
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Yeah but where am I going to get a van big enough at this hour?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 01:58 PM
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The focus on the number has always seemed quite strange to me too, though, because through the methods they advocate to work it out (acting chill so she chats about her past, getting to know her social circle, etc) you get a picture of the broader details too so you don't need to focus so strongly on count alone. Strongly agree. I'd find it quite hard to draw a line in the sand number that I'm uncomfortable with tbh (ballpark sure) but when you start mixing in a highish number with certain other…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 01:52 PM
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I reckon ebola might be worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 08:33 AM
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Right. I don't think there is all that much of a difference between the sexes on that point tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 08:05 AM
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Agreed. Upvoted (though tbh I'm not sure why this needed its own post). Need to do something about the femcel/incel tears crowd just as much though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 07:41 AM
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Heh you described the guy I know who most closely fits the ideal of Chad down to a T here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 07:28 AM
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This is exactly it for the normal guys. I don't even think it necessarily has to do with asking a chick out either. A close friend of mine told me that the girls in his school used to say horrible things to him, for years. It wasn't until he stumbled into a relationship in later years that his confidence restored and he started killing it with the ladies. I've said it before, the Chad's and Alphas are the guys who had enough positive reinforcement early on to be in a position to shrug off such r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 07:21 AM
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Wait... Are you in London?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 06:59 AM
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He's right. Incels were banned on sight this time a year ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 04:50 PM
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Cheerfully noted
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 04:20 PM
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I was under the impression that it wasnt all that common to be a switch unless it was homosexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 04:03 PM
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You mean like the one linked out of here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/bm5uxe/british_medical_journal_people_are_having_less_sex/ ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 02:48 PM
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I mean, if she gave birth to it and the father isnt around - who else should?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 10:51 AM
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It was just a bit shit and flat. No one much liked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 10:00 AM
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I'll steelman your argument for a sec. Those rules were brought in in a different age. The welfare state has been in existence in the UK for 70 years and on 1997 the government brought in government paid support payments to parents of children. It was intended to make childcare costs affordable so that mothers could return to work sooner but it would suffice to keep a child alive and they'd still have access to free healthcare and schooling etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 08:13 AM
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Man you crushed this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 08:04 AM
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They are positive relationship traits but they aren't sexy. It's why they differentiate between SMV and RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 07:28 AM
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Yes but do those things provide coverage for all children and surely you'd agree that they also need funding - where do you propose to obtain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 06:20 AM
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Oh idk. You definitely need money to meet some of the basic needs like food and shelter. If the woman is incapable of providing this funding and has no alternative source then it's hard to say that child support isn't totally necessary. In the middle classes it is going to look a lot more like discretionary spending though, at which point it's hard to justify as a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 06:12 AM
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I can be hungry, desperately in need of food, and not want to eat shit for the scarce nutrition it provides.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 04:59 PM
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Under Maslovs hierarchy of needs sex falls under the psychological need tier. It isnt considered a basic need but it is considered as more necessary than a lot of the self actualisation and self esteem 'needs'. Its on the same level as family and sense of belonging. Ultimately you can be asexual and happy enough so you might be right but most people arent asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 12:40 PM
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I agree that the issue is with the economy requiring infinite growth. Things are going to slowly be offset through automation to control for a declining population though. Also agree that we have to address the denuding of resources sooner rather than later and are actually giving a good go of it. Problem is that we wont get there in time due to China/India/USA. If by some miracle we do manage to change the energy and consumption mix of the world though I imagine the people living in 100 years w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 10:48 AM
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Well yeah. We've had payments to parents of children since 1997 before immigration was ever an issue. As with most of Europe it hasnt really slowed the declining birthrate in the native populace.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 10:34 AM
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Overpopulation is a problem but its going to be much worse if too large a portion of the millenials dont have kids. You'd have a pretty rapid economic collapse and we still wouldnt do much to arrest climate change before the decrease in population kicks in. As it happens we'd have a decreasing population in the UK anyway if it wasn't for immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 09:58 AM
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Actually I've changed my mind on this. I have a lot of Trini friends and I asked them about it. Some were like it's cool to dance on everyone, some said it's cool as long as it's not ghetto wine, some didn't like it when in a relationship. However all said it's different when not carnival. The guy who really stands out is one who was thinking dumping his missus for too high an n count but didn't care she's wining on people in carnival. The 'expectations are different then'. They are all bankers …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:50 AM
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Actually women are more like to cheat under 30. Men do cheat more overall but thats largely down to the over 50 crowd where men are cheating way more often
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:36 AM
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Yeah that makes sense. Just surprised that MGTOW doesn't take effect after the anger phase has passed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:11 AM
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Seems like they like to visit really remote places. I thought they were into sex tourism as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 09:30 PM
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Oh god yes. Just took a look and it's like 90% moaning about women, 10% travel pics lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 09:11 PM
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Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 09:10 PM
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I think they give control of the town over to mensa and comic book guy decrees it haha
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 07:28 PM
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I would love to know the thought process that goes through that. The Simpsons even made fun of it years ago lol. Never thought I'd see the day when someone earnestly proposed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 07:13 PM
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I mean you may as well push the boat out on escorts and get a good one of you are going down that route
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 07:11 PM
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It's not about what you can quantify with careers. If you added up all the monetary value that my wife brings to our relationship, through equivalent jobs, it still wouldn't be close to what she is actually worth to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 07:04 PM
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Kinda feel like limiting this to those 3 things severely undervalues the role of a good wife and partner tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 06:36 PM
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Latin/salsa dance sure. Thats an art form. Grinding/twerking/whining is a different matter entirely. Yea it's just fun and sexy if a girl does it by herself or with her girlfriends but if she does it on a dude it's pretty suggestive. I've been to carnival and you don't see an awful lot of platonic whining haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 06:12 PM
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This exactly. Anything else starts to give way to a just world covert contract which is damaging for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 05:19 PM
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This is actually a fair point tbh. I don't think the same people are making both points but yes if you are concerned about falling birth levels you need to be somewhat supportive of measures that support parenthood. Personally I quite like child benefit payments as part of the welfare state. If I'm paying for old people's pensions I don't see why we can't spare a few quid to help out struggling mothers and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 04:41 PM
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Who is pissed? It's just a sad state of affairs that we've gone from the likes of atlas and sublime with their reasoned, supported arguments and then you guys who are as ranty and delusional as the incels. Take it back to r/femcels and everyone will be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 03:46 PM
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Now that's the kind of wit that gets a girl proposed to!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 03:28 PM
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Nowhere did I say all women on here are shrieking and I'm sorry you find my tone patronising. You and a lot of the newer ladies on here seem to have a real agenda. I get it, it's not cool how the black pillers and more extreme reds are painting women but frankly you guys aren't helping yourselves when the argument against them is so easy to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 11:23 AM
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I'm not American nor a MGTOW or incel. People on here tend to find benzo, salty and I to be some of the more reasonable male posters. I'm happily married and have been for years. Not everyone is a misogynist because they disagree with you - you are proving my point. Would you like a xanax?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 10:09 AM
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All true. However your position is that men should participate in birth control, yet when they do and they fail you treat them the same as men who don't bother at all. In that scenario it's women alone with the rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 09:27 AM
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How's that not relevant? Men have access to one self use form of birth control which is imperfect. They can't force women to use birth control because of bodily autonomy. You can't claim that men should use birth control and then hold the same punitive standards for men who do lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 08:51 AM
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Not a lot of room for us left in the middle now salty. This sub is majority Incels Vs shrieking women now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 06:53 AM
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Yeah. It's not that long a book and it's part of dread level 1 - you know, the first one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 06:33 AM
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It's chapter 19 of Married Man Sex Life Primer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 09:00 PM
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MRP, maybe RP in general, are consulate pragmatists. They follow what they believe works - even if others disagree with what that is. Do you honestly believe for one second that they don't advocate to remove any possible cause of resentment, like cleaning or childcare, from the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 03:50 PM
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Well reasoned and realistic post. too few of those around here these days. Nice one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 06:36 PM
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I imagine that criticism of her will be pegged as misogyny so she'll keep spouting shite no doubt. Doesnt seem all that prevalent in my industry. In fact that last I saw, there were more harassment cases brought against women in my company than by them (which may be due to underreporting idk).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 04:17 PM
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I didnt manage to clock the moment when this changed from a debate sub to propagandising your own life choices. Its even less interesting than everyone vs black pillers :(
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 12:44 PM
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What attributes do you think I'm talking about......
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 02:19 PM
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C suite guys, VPs, that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 02:11 PM
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I mean personality wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 02:10 PM
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This. The career women I know are just really masculine. Kinda works for casual sex because they are forward but they don't have any of the attributes that high value guys want, even if they are outwardly hot (which they aren't tbh).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 01:31 PM
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This is exactly how its gone for me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 11:55 AM
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I dont think you are lying about your own experience but I think Finland isnt the UK lol and you clearly dont have the same sort of family and friends that I do. Just as an example my brother has does all of the cooking in their house - he's vegetarian and wants to control what goes into his food. No need for downvotes btw. Its a little transparent that its you when it happens so soon after the comment and you reply lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 12:19 PM
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Oh please.... My wife does a little less than I do most of the time. My closest friends report the same cross chores in their relationships unanimously with one notable exception - childcare. If we got to a point where we couldnt keep on top then we'd start outsourcing. Your scenario doesnt exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 12:12 PM
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I mean, thats really on you isnt it......
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 11:13 AM
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Pretty much this. My wife also enjoys doing deep cleans as she finds them relaxing. Wont find her taking out the rubbish or cleaning out the coffee machine though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:34 AM
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More neatly sidestepped it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 08:36 PM
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Because I've spoken to humans who've cheated. You should get out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 08:21 PM
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Maybe if you are a man - though I doubt it. I've never heard of a woman who cheated who wasn't rejecting the man in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 07:16 PM
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Ah another Incel being a lil bitch. Been a bit of a shortage of those lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 10:11 AM
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You believe a guy that you don't know and have never met isnt in a relationship that he's having at least some sex in when a guy who knows him very well is telling you he almost certainly is? People like you are the reason people think Blackpillers are crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 09:33 AM
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Yup I believe he does. Nice downvotes btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 09:10 AM
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Whilst I do buy the 80/20, it's mostly applying to casual sex. People missing out entirely are probably not in that market anyway and are clearly not developing themselves in the manner they'd need to get a gf. How so? I would think barriers for people getting married and having kids is more concerning than what happens after they get married and have kids. Because marital breakdown leads to divorce, effects on children's wellbeing and happiness, child support payments, a shitty dating market er…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 07:52 AM
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I can't blame French women for passing up French men tbh. it's why half of them live in London. Why are your friends ending up alone? Are they as charming as your good self?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 07:20 AM
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Yeah but who's missing out? I look around all the well socialised men I know and even the ugliest have managed to be a beta for some low tier woman. Hell I'm going on a stag do for my last single friend in a couple of weeks. This is about a failure to compete in a lot of cases. The dead bedrooms in marriage are more concerning. There are a lot more factors that go into that and there are real consequences to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 06:32 AM
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This is probably the most insightful thing you've said on here. Nice one++
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 09:48 AM
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Basically this. She got screwed over before and now wants to play it safe. I think its pretty reasonable to take the approach to learn from past mistakes. Unfortunately, if she drops this: Every time I have had sex on the first night, it either turns into just sex or I never hear from the guy again Any guy with self respect will probably drop her upon being told to wait. She hasnt established enough value with him to make him want to wait for something that she's admitting others have gotten for…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 09:36 AM
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Ofc many promiscuous women do find a man to marry. We dont really know if the men are high SMV or not as there isnt really a reliable data source on it. We do know that these women tend to be less happy in their subsequent marriages though. Ultimately what RP is doing is providing cautionary tales, social commentary. It suggests that if you dont want to be the kind of guy who gets to provide for such women, with a worse sex life than previous partners to boot, then you should avoid them. As to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 09:37 AM
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A few thoughts .... 1) this Sandberg quote is clearly addressing women. Getting all up in arms about it is a bit like women reading RP and getting upset. You aren't the audience. 2) it's obviously a maturity thing that comes at the expense of men. Women with good character and FTO are not following this strategy at all but meeting their men in their prime and building lives together instead of paper macheing two lives together later on. I think Sandberg is kinda projecting her own failings throu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 08:32 AM
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Most people in general aren't having consistent casual sex. The guys looking for it here are really trying to be considered valuable enough to get it. Most will end up bored and unfulfilled by it and wind up wanting a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 11:27 AM
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Anyone else get the impression this is a LARPing incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 11:23 AM
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Great post. My wife could have written this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 04:40 PM
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Agreed. I keep telling people that Id quite happily have dated a hairdresser of mine from years ago. She was in good shape but was a bit of a butterface yet she was probably the easiest person to talk to I've ever come across. Pleasantness and agreeableness are fairly universally understood as well. I've met people with PhDs who are only particularly knowledgeable about that one subject and arent great conversationalists anyway aside from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 02:38 PM
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There is a big difference between being bored of sex with a person and being bored of the person. I think we get bored of a lack of variety. There are a load of things that you can do as a couple to spice things up if necessary. Personally havent gotten bored in 13 years (in the aggregate).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 01:08 PM
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Same. Its actually a massive grey area. I've overheard conversations in the office that could very easily be reported sexual harassment but havent been because the people involved were pretty easy going and had a reputation as flirts. I've also seen people get reported for sexual harassment who were just being friendly. So much in the eye of the beholder. On a similar note - I could easily have been reported for bullying because of the banter I have with some of my staff. A lot of why I havent s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 10:09 AM
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Being child free doesnt really affect SMV IMO. A single mother in good shape and enthusiastic will be just as good a prospect for a casual encounter as a child free single person. I guess they'd get a slight bump for availability vs a parent. What it wont cripple is RMV in the short term like single mothers will for all men who dont want to raise someone elses kids. In the long run though, I think most men want kids of their own and a child free adherent basically has no long term RMV to those g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 09:58 AM
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If you dont make your intentions known they will be interpreted in the way that best suits the other person
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 01:21 PM
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Agreed. Hes not aggressive enough and she doesnt have the perception to see that he's interested without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 12:27 PM
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Well that would fulfill her imperative no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 09:23 AM
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Majority of posters here are a bit damaged tbh. I wouldn't take them too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 04:49 PM
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Wtf. Who thinks that? High libido girl who doesn't do casual is like the perfect partner for a lot of guys - me included. It's also not exactly uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 04:41 PM
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Good point actually. Have an upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 04:22 PM
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I think you can make a case that 'always on' living makes life harder to separate from work. But as Smoogs says, lots of distractions everywhere now. I mean, how long has Netflix and OD TV been a thing? Time was you couldnt find anything to watch so just boredom bone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 03:02 PM
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You must be new here. Team Atlas has long held that women must be total sluts or hate sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 02:45 PM
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Yeah I dont much buy the sandwich generation thing. Realistically it has to be something going on in the home that is driving the decay in relationship sex. Those who are single are playing (and losing) the dating game at a similar rate. No mention of falling T levels which were obviously not a part of the study and which may play a role. I'll also make a wild guess at the decline in alcohol consumption (peaked in 2005) correlating with a little less drunk and sloppy sex going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 02:41 PM
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In complete fairness - do you think that if a man lifts and runs his way to a perfect body and then is faced with being able to have sex with the average woman today - he's going to be all that happy? We'll just see sexlessness amongst women rise if men did diverge into hardbodies and slobs dont you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 11:51 AM
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Of the two people here, which is the person who is more culpable? ...are you serious? Sure, but the reality is that by shaming single moms you're shaming them for either not having an abortion, or for not abandoning their baby at birth. Im not shaming mothers at all. However I do recognise that their issues in dating are largely their own making. You seem to be taking this rather personally. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 09:27 AM
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Depends where you are I think. In the UK I've come across plenty of single mothers but not one of them is that way because of religion. Lower class? Yeah sure I'll buy that. All of them have a very similar story. They picked a guy, got knocked up, decided to keep it - some at the urging of the father - then ended up alone. In fairness to them they dont complain about their lot to everyone who will listen. Its always her choice. You can't make the whole 'her body, her choice' argument and then tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 09:06 AM
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Online is a bit of a different beast because you don't have body language. Escalation has to be a bit more of a hammer of aggression. I sorta agree though. I think a lot of women haven't learned how to encourage that escalation once they have attention and are just blaming the dudes for not escalating properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 07:53 AM
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Agreed. I have a certain amount of sympathy for the downtrodden on this sub (which is frequently exceeded by the incels). Single mothers are a bit of a red herring considering the number and obvious magnitude of choices they were making but when it comes to people in dead bedrooms, girls who keep getting plated or guys that can't get a date after doing what they can to be the prize - I'm rooting for them. Maybe it's the old British love for an underdog.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 07:22 AM
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You come out of hiatus.....for that lol xD
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 06:43 AM
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I find it really interesting that the refrain from team woman on this issue is usually 'you are failing to see this from a womans perspective' when the dude is trying to come to terms with things from his own value system. They are effectively saying he's wrong and stupid for wanting to be valued the way he wants to be valued....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 10:57 AM
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Well yes they will blame men until they can't anymore. Right now it's men don't have social skills (by which they really mean escalation skills from what I've seen) but if that gets undone they will quickly move to point out that men just aren't very good prospects as partners. I think it's a shame that so few publications/channels will even cast a vestigial light on women's role in all this, because right now it does look a lot like AF/BB is amplifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 08:06 AM
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So wholesome <3
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 08:13 AM
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My brother is a GP I can probably ask him for you. Also I think /u/mercedesbenzoAMG might have used the NHS for this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 01:20 PM
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I don't even think it's entirely this. Most new mothers I know just want an extended period to bond with their kids whilst the husband brings in the majority of the money. However all eventually want to go back, some after multiple kids and periods of maternity leave
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 06:49 PM
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Its a hamfisted way of trying to get ahead of evidence coming out that will derail a prosecution. Bit of a slew of false accusations and cases where all circumstantial evidence makes things look consensual of late and they are clearly trying to go after cases which are actually winnable. Sounds like they arent even making good use of it though.....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 10:50 AM
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Awful lot depends on how you derive/receive fun I guess. Thrills and lovebombs can only last so long. If you can make yourself happy and be happy doing pretty much anything then you are obviously going to be into a different set of potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 08:57 AM
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Sure. There are undoubtedly some men on MRP who are man children. However, extrapolate this out from MRP to the root cause of MRP - DBs. Do you think the majority of men in DBs are really man children? That women are going to be marrying these guys en masse?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 07:06 AM
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Yeah same age as my wife. I think that it's only really the casual sex crowd this applies to honestly. Men and women who take relationships seriously from the off don't radically alter what they are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 06:47 AM
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Man am I the only one who thought this was going to be filled with Yo Mama jokes?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 06:45 AM
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I guess the big q is - when did you get married? I think my experience aligns with yours but I don't know many people who are still on the market at 28 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 06:22 AM
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Yeah I think MRP is shooting for making her feel desired by a high value man whilst taking away some of the life pressures that can be libido killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 09:54 PM
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I'm pretty sure that most of the guys who end up at MRP just got fat and passive tbh. Good husband's and fathers but shitty lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 09:49 PM
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Its not really. You just have to work in the right sorta company and say yes to drinks a lot. Its a lot easier in Uni for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 03:39 PM
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Honestly RP seems to have a bit of a vested interest in pushing the 'social commentary' stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 01:59 PM
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Idk why everyone who refers to dread assumes its diving in at the very top levels. The recommended stuff from that post is pretty much what you'd get if you forced a non RPer to come up with actionable stuff instead of employing meaningless platitudes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 12:59 PM
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If you think you can just down tools after marriage then you are not going to have a happy one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 02:30 PM
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Interesting. I mean its all subjective and she was obviously thrown in there to appeal to the female audience but I find it really intriguing that women tend to really love the blatantly overpowered and unearned powerful female heroes (Rey, CM, Shallan Davar etc) whilst shunning those who are more conflicted. Over time, particularly in written fantasy, I think we've seen a trend towards far more flawed male heroes which is why you dont see an awful lot of Superman-esque characters being written …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 11:48 AM
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I dont believe for one second that you arent spending all your money on more benzos.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 10:49 AM
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Really? CM is a reskinned male character with silly levels of power. She's a snooty superman. Personally I thought Scarlet Witch and Black Widow were the better written female characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 08:52 AM
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Good comments and goes some way to explaining mgtow, even just core RP, anger. How do you square this with the fact that the most attractive women aren't sleeping around as much though? Same phenomenon with chicks who can easily just lock down their man or is it largely the casual sex below average to slight above average bracket that gets you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 07:02 AM
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Yeah never really got the lashing out at you, lively and the other low count ladies who made commitments young. Even sublime who seems to have played the dating game as honestly as you could ask for. I'd love to say they were confusing y'all with someone else but it's more likely that there are just a lot of MGTOW and incel types who are angry at everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 06:50 AM
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The SAHM thing is so true. Once kids come along it's just women, educated or not, playing the maternity leave card and just never going back or working part time or something. It's choices enabled by a high earning man. I suspect the child free folk are a too-loud minority when it comes to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 06:33 AM
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Is this the shortest post you've ever made?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 07:27 PM
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Yeah generally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:43 PM
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Sure. It's not like those college girls have any shortage of suitors. It's the leftover chicks looking for stability and maturity who older men will be able to snag easy enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 05:41 PM
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I think a more reasonable interpretation is men have a few more years to find and lock down that higher value woman. Sure, insofar as men tend to date younger
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:34 PM
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Ill just take your word for it shall I?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:32 PM
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No its definitely true for men as well. Difference is that if you take the best out of a population of declining SMV, the impact is more noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 01:57 PM
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Yup totally agree with this. The highest value women were all locked down a decade before Rollo's male peak. I suppose thats an argument in favour of a 'wall' isnt it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 01:26 PM
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Im 33. I'd say its an incomplete look at things and probably a little too revenge fantasy-ish to be completely trusted. I do think its accurate that men generally do increase their SMV out of their 20s. A mixture of status and confidence is accrued by most men which can definitely ramp up their attractiveness and allow them to execute that most maligned BP aphorism: 'just be yourself'. Physically a lot depends. A young man tends to have a faster metabolism making it easier for him to stay thin b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 12:40 PM
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Vardy could still win the golden boot. He'd definitely be the most underrated at that point. If he somehow puts City away it whilst getting there I'd have to add him to list of greatest premier league strikers ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 12:17 PM
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No. If I were single again then I'd still probably not go full slut mode even though it appears to be pretty easy in your 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 10:00 AM
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You thinking a non permanent arrangement (say needs to be renewed every 10 years) with provisioning for kids baked in?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 05:59 AM
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Yup. Number one cause of marriage breakdown is infidelity and women cheat more before 30 years old. Might be well out of his hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:08 AM
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Ehhh. I agree about two of them leading to beta bucks but looks can definitely be improved through various means, some (don't be fat, dress nice) are blue pill advice. If you want to argue that it's impossible max looks to compete with top 20% then I'd probably agree with that for some dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:00 PM
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If you don't think there are far more men that will support women's issues than women will support men's then I have some magic beans to sell you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:37 PM
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Oh god I agree with you. Look what they've done to the sub.....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:18 AM
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If you read a variety of topics on here then you will find that your 3 replies are trotted out by team woman on literally every one of the pillsphere discussions. It's curious that you don't prioritise the legit counterarguments to the linked post though. I can think of a couple more without trying too hard as well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:45 AM
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OTOH men also have no way to cover their signs of aging and are probably expected to engage in activities activity that is harsher on the skin for work or exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:41 AM
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Whilst I generally agree that women shouldn't rush to settle down with a wealthy old man, I don't think this is a great comparison. Money can be lost or used pretty immediately. Jobs can be lost or just too awful to continue with and for the majority of people that is where they get their money. Youth is finite and everyone loses it in the end. It's also expected that people will get old, in spite of their best efforts to appear like they arent, but most people have expectations of remaining or …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:26 AM
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Bit of a straw man that. Most women I know get a man they find attractive early and he provides the kid. Strikes me that the woman wanting a man just for kids is likely to be in the older age groups - in fact I can think of a couple of women in their 30s who are examples of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 09:02 PM
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I think the problem with your position is that you default to no relationship being a better state than being in a relationship. I know the ladies of PPD like to talk a big game but IRL I don't really know many women who don't pretty desperately want someone to love them, a father for their kids etc. By playing that perma waiting game you are effectively gambling that more high value men are going to become available over time and that they will be willing to settle for the older woman over the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:48 PM
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Yeah they might not want a committed relationship though. Lot of people don't fancy something serious at certain points in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:17 PM
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The big 3 people use are still largely hookup heavy tbf. Doesn't mean he couldnt be explicit about wanting a relationship though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 06:44 PM
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Quite. I presume it's because he can't find women in his social circles who aren't into casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 06:36 PM
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What's going on with this troll...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 06:20 PM
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Basically what most women are doing tbh. Getting married late 20s but in a long term relationship since early 20s. They are just getting with people near their own age instead of men a decade older in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 04:36 PM
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Most countries use a mix of employer contributions and tax to keep parental leave payments high. In the UK its pretty normal for women to have a year off, 6 months of full pay and 6 months of half pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 09:09 AM
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Aye could be that. I think that's an overplayed point on this sub in general though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:29 AM
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I think I'd say that the fact that we don't fuck other girls is more proof of commitment and male honour than love. A lot more goes into love than just sex. Fully agree about wife goggles though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:10 AM
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If you read TRP you find that most people believe "anyone can be a natural if they practice hard enough" smh Right this is basically an underlying question of this post. Is TRP really just trying to build a better beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:38 PM
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So I genuinely think I align with this. However - the exact point of training something is to have it be a reaction instead of a thought out process no?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:25 PM
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Fair point. Most of the naturals I know come from privileged backgrounds but you are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:13 PM
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The wall is just the crossover point in SMV. It's where the average guy starts to get as much choice, and therefore abundance, as the average woman. Glad you have your high value alpha husband locked down though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:43 AM
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One for those bar only lifts and another for insta selfies if my gym is anything to go by
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 06:28 AM
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The red view is that women default to wanting provisioning from an alpha first and that AF/BB is a fallback. Viewed from that perspective, provisioning is the primary thing that women are looking for. That, they'll get in marriage pretty handily as long as they marry a guy with a decent job who won't screw around on her. I agree that marriage is something counter to alphas best interests but aren't exactly suffering because of it are they? As long as women look to settle down later the alphas wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 02:15 PM
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I'm pretty sure I read that the Amsterdams red light district is like 25% British punters. I always figured it was more yanks from visits there but as long as we have such an accessible and legal place (for weed and hookers) that's run by decently attractive 20 year old Eastern Europeans, I don't see the clamour for change tbh. Plus having worked in law enforcement, it's impossible to really stop the illicit sex trade in the UK anyway. Best they can do is go after the traffickers and gangs. Sole…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 12:44 PM
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Yeah that sounds about right tbh. I do think that late teen/early 20s marriages can be dangerous regardless just because full maturity, career establishment etc hasn't occurred but beyond that it strikes me that people tend to reflect the culture in which they grew up. For example I know a 23 year old from a poorer town who is itching to get married ASAP - because that's what her parents did and it worked out ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 09:32 AM
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You'll see more I'm sure. Lot of factors go into divorce. Most of the couples I know are roughly what I described and all seem happy enough. I work with a few people who got divorced and they tended to have married late 20s. Not sure how much age or maturity had to do in any case though - travelling too much to work seems to be at fault in every case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 09:12 AM
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How's that masculinity though? Given the number of women who can do the same you wouldn't think it was necessarily masculinity so much as competence
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 09:02 AM
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Chicks into cuckolding might not be the best source of a man's best interests tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 06:57 AM
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The late 20s thing is a red herring. Don't get married quickly sure, but if you've been with a person for years already, have lived together etc you are fine in your mid 20s IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 06:46 AM
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Cool! Just always wondered how people do it. Seems like some people get a mother or in law to watch them and everyone else it's just straight to daycare. Do you get a pre tax childcare allowance?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 01:17 PM
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Mind if ask what you are planning for daycare when your leave is over?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 08:20 AM
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This is exactly the behavioural conditioning that ratchets up n counts to astronomical levels and amplifies the AF/BB phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 06:52 AM
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Largely yes. I feel we are inexorably drawn to seek out love, companionship and reproduction. People at 35 are coming up hard on being genetic failures. Most of the ones I've known have turned out to be closeted gays.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:41 PM
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Naw. Only if you aren't a genuine person does this apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:40 PM
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Not really. What you present in the first few minutes/hours is you as well. Starts to be more provisioning stuff that comes out later
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:18 PM
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No incel content
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:04 PM
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Women Are Wonderful abbreviates to WoW? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:00 PM
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Hah. Right. It was rare enough that I remembered it but point still stands. Some people dont want to be the person who had to 'grow' on their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:22 PM
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A sizeable part of my company came from the trading floor of big banks and my brother works as a Forex trader right now. Pretty confident I know what I'm on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:14 PM
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I know plenty of frat guys in finance as well tbh. Lot of jobs out there are more about network than anything else and the frat guy archetype has a pretty strong one of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:48 PM
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Dont even need to do that if they want to meet a girl for relationship purposes. Strikes me that they think they are owed casual sex from a lot of thots though so idk, maybe a crack binge is just what they need.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 09:24 AM
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Guys don't just look for the hot girl when they want to settle down. They want to settle down with the hot girl who is pleasant to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 07:05 AM
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In complete fairness you did present a situation where the disapproval was probably the result of her cheating but presented it as settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 07:01 AM
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Right. Will push a huge number of guys away.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 06:46 AM
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How aware do you think most people are of the covert contracts they form? Especially when you are a late teen when these decisions start to be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 06:32 AM
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I don't think it's ick, or exclusively ick. A while back there was a thread about a guy who was asked out as a joke/bullying by his gf as a prank by the school mean girls. After she'd gone out with him she started getting feels and didn't execute the rest of the mean plan. He found out a couple of years later and asked Reddit if he should leave. Guys don't like the foundations of their relationship to shift anymore than their house's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 06:25 AM
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Doesn't sound right to me. Most frat guys I know do really well in sales and account management style roles. I know a few with over 6 figure in commission alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 06:21 AM
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I chuckled. Take your upvote
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:58 AM
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Found Walder Frey
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 02:41 PM
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End of next year would be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 02:34 PM
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Fair enough - thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 02:20 PM
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If later on I find out that she did hide information from me (assuming the information would have stopped the relationship from existing in the first place)... then the relationship ends. What if you only found out 10 years later and you were super invested, had kids etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 02:04 PM
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The child one is actually an IRL one. Last year was rather revelatory.......... there were actually multiple cases of this happening. In all cases the women decided to stand by their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 01:40 PM
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Im not sure thats the case. I dont have stats on it either way but my impression is that women are more likely to be the ones who think that the past should be forgotten about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 01:09 PM
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1) I'm British, complaining has no pre-requisite. 2) Men have a higher ceiling as they age, which isnt to say that they are pulling 18 year olds before someone wheels out that trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 11:31 AM
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Quote me the part where I said that......
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 10:56 AM
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My company has something like 10 married couples in it and a bunch more that are dating currently. I think as long as your day to day duties arent impacted by it then go nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 10:21 AM
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Yeah it's weird. 1-6 are pretty reasonable and then they just take a right turn and floor it straight into crazy town
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:57 AM
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I'll provide social proof just because I like beer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 06:33 AM
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Agreed. My father dates a lot of late 30s/40s women. From what he shares with us a lot of them have some seriously crazy baggage. Strikes me that younger women have not only the beauty of youth on their side but also the time to grow out of immaturity and insecurity where older women are more set in their ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 06:29 AM
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Nah. I just mean that you are cool to feel entitled to sex within a marriage as DDB says but that at any given moment you arent. I.e. i feel pretty entitled to sex with my wife this week but I don't think im entitled to her disrobing the second I get back from work tonight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 04:45 PM
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Entitled in an aggregate sense, not so much at any given moment though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:24 PM
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I was going to say 16 but 20 by mid 30s is about right. Anyone who thinks you are a slut at 3 is a moron. That's firmly in the 'takes relationships and sex seriously' bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 06:20 AM
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Agreed. Women have always initiated that conversation with me. Hell, a few of them wanted to know how many girls I'd merely kissed. I always assumed they were a) concerned I was a player and/or b) trying to demonstrate high value The bar sluts don't care though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 06:06 AM
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...... He's saying that referring to them as sex negative because they don't want to date promiscuous women is shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 09:06 PM
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He is saying that people are shaming people who choose to not date someone because of n count/analogue, not that not dating them is shaming itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 08:54 PM
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I think it's more about the intent of the shamer rather than the intended recipient of said shame. Whether the person feels shamed by feminists or whoever doesnt seem to have that much of a bearing on the scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 08:39 PM
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If OP changed it to 'attempting to shame men for....' would you have any objection to the post? Bit of a mild technicality to tale issue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 08:30 PM
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Right. Getting bored of it is really common. I'm just saying that I've known people trying to just fit in with the whole culture who never fully engaged with it. Those are the people who were acting, not the people who later came to change their lifestyle due to some factor or other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 04:41 PM
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To a point. The basics of social skills.... probably not? I know there are a lot of shy/extremely introverted/autistic types who talk about the need to learn game but the reality is that most guys can get a girls attention with a bit of chat and banter. Where most guys fall down is in escalating and sexualising the situation. I'd consider that a part of 'game' so yeah, bit of practice with that will benefit a lot of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 04:06 PM
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Yeah this. I suspect the people putting on an act to try and fit in aren't actually the ones racking up large n counts and partying hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 03:56 PM
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Absolutely. The guys I know with the highest numbers got there by wading through a pile of absolute rotters.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:43 AM
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Right on all counts. In fact the majority of relationships I see around me are what you describe in the last paragraph. The only slight disagreement I have is that of course they get emotionally invested in the AF guys and end up hurt. It's a minority that kinda train themselves not to give a shit about who they are with at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 07:18 AM
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Might need something stronger with the quality of some of these incel in sheep's clothing posts we have going on
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 12:35 PM
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Can we get a ruling on whether this is incel content?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 10:52 AM
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Whilst I agree, its definitely possible to be the most popular method of meeting new people without being the overall majority method.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 10:32 AM
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Wild sexual success is not the same as some sexual success. Some guys will always do better due to genetics and socialisation. I'm talking about average Vs incel. It's not the well sexed guys who are complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 06:22 PM
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Not even a bit. We want a girl to enthusiastically pleasing us whilst also valuing us highly. You aren't a slut for having sex with your boyfriend lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:48 PM
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Concur. Its a problem but if you remember PPD from 12-18 months ago its really replacing, or just outweighing, the team woman block vote that preceded it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:36 PM
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Mate you are crushing it today. Good shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:32 PM
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You seem triggered. Might I suggest a trip to the gym?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:30 PM
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I completely agree with you but I'm struggling to see the CMV in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:57 PM
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Married a lawyer. A couple of years ago she moved over to advertising with me. We are much happier now lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:03 PM
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You can't have read the OP nor know anything about the subject matter of PPD if you need to ask that. Can only assume you are trolling at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:01 PM
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Im not even sure how much I'd agree with that tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:13 PM
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I think you are missing the context of this post. Its not that women are the be all and end all of a mans identity or a barometer of his success as a man at all - its the blackpillers who have brashly pedestalised women. This whole post is just a response and rebuttal to that point of view. If their entire goal is to be valuable to women (and dont kid yourself, it is) then the point is that you can be in the overwhelming majority of cases with just the application of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:49 PM
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Whilst I'd agree with that counter, I very much doubt that the majority - or even a sizeable minority - of the people complaining about standards are targeting the post wall female community. Would your experience differ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:01 PM
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If that is a continued direction of travel I'd probably agree but there is a lot of missing information from that idea, not least the why men are not having sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 12:56 PM
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By edited I meant reduced in length by 2/3rds. Its a bit in love with itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 12:53 PM
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To be fair "Being the prize" is probably beyond many blackpillers, in so far as this denotes someone so far "above the bar" that women will actively seek out and pursue them. I'm not sure how may blackpillers could get here. However, it's not beyond the wit and effort of man to clear that bar for some women and by so doing finally get decent access to sex and relationships. Disagree. Ever been to a fairground and played some throwing/shooting games where you win a prize for getting X amount of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 12:52 PM
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MRP does. I guess sado is talking about strict TRP in the sense of all relationships being a big pile of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 12:40 PM
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Fair one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 12:28 PM
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Congrats! Mind if I ask what subject?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:29 AM
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Why does that matter? If you are a guy who has done everything he can to increase your value you are going to have more options than the dorito dust chick so she can go buy a bunch of cats right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:27 AM
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I can assure you it is a thing. Very popular with Asian ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:25 AM
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I guess there is a bit of ground between 'only finds 20% of guys attractive enough to talk to' and 'must have 6 pack or gtfo'. First one could be applied to a large number of women, second should probably think about including guys with flat stomachs lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 07:20 AM
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Generally I think the whole 'lower your standards' thing only gets applied to people who have artificially high standards anyway. I also think those people tend to be in the group of people who develop stronger feelings after more familiarity. I really doubt femcels like OP really even want Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 08:12 PM
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In itself you are right. A relationship requires a lot more than a check list and, shock horror, you might have to do a bit of work at it What lowering your standard does is twofold. First it can help remove artificial barriers to relationships but secondly, and more importantly, it might mean you meet and give a chance to more guys - some of whom you might deem relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:10 PM
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I think most people would agree that high value necessarily includes good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:39 PM
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I wouldnt even say I'm that hot but a decent looking drunk girl has thrown herself at me on a handful of occasions. I generally agree with you though, especially anywhere that isnt a nightclub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:00 PM
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I think that the genie is out of the bottle so to speak. A political solution can only really work to restrict rights at this point. That's rather counter to prevailing Western culture. It strikes me that RP basically suggests that you either accept female nature for what it is and all that it entails (i.e. enjoy the decline) or you look at some sort of Islamic style forcing of women back into the kitchen. Whilst the latter might end up with more men married off, do you think men will really be …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 09:34 AM
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Sounds like quite a gal. /u/planejane - see, I didnt even have to make a post to find guys who like women :P
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 08:40 AM
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Happy cake day! Edit: downvoting for cake day? Y'all need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:44 PM
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The ones who do get a gf and start having sex tend to fuck off so you don't see the success stories. That said, there is at least one black pill guy who is married with a kid so your guess is as good as anyone's
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 08:02 AM
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Not quite. The guy is going to want immediate sex from the ONS ho just the same as the wife material chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 07:31 AM
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Unfortunate choice of words
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:16 AM
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Lol. I agree with your title but the way you've gone about it makes you sound crazy. You've done exactly what RP would probably tell you to do here. Getting to monogamy after going through an endless blur of slutty women doesn't really make you a monogamist. This post is very much a case of 'do as I say, not as I do'. Happy you've got a good thing going now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:45 PM
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Are you trying to get a jump start on slut week lol. Answers on both sides are the same, usually both valid and no one is going to change their mind AND admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:43 PM
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Just stems from people buying too much into the RP idea that most women are out having casual sex with new guys all the time. if they knew a lot of women they'd know this is far rarer than RP, and PPD, would have you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 09:50 AM
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To a point yes. It's more likely that it's down to social circles though. Your college friends become college grads, most grads end up in white collar jobs with other college grads etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:43 AM
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Depends what they want really. Yes, for a casual thing all you need is to be good looking enough to give you the opportunity to be fun and then be able to escalate things sexually. For something more long term women tend to take account of other factors - except the ones on here who apparently are just down with the hobos
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 05:26 PM
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Maybe just the hyperlinked text?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 05:07 PM
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Women control 60% of all wealth in the country Japan definitely being a part of the United States
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 04:52 PM
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Yeah I don't really see an issue with 'I have a boyfriend' except when its used when I'm not even making any sort of approach. Seems like a nice let down easy thing both parties should get.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 04:43 PM
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I like the cut of your jib
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 12:17 PM
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Any chance of a 'Q4NonIncels' topic flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:51 AM
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The issue isnt the comfort, its the odour
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:50 AM
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I was going to write an answer about how humans recalibrate themselves to their situations, how wealthy people dont often feel that wealthy, how happy people just feel normal etc and how this would translate to women attracting lots of attention. However, what the absolute fuck is this and how has it been upvoted> Are you twelve years old?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:41 AM
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I'm guessing its an advocacy for 'hope for the best, plan for the worst'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:29 PM
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If there's no checks in place, what's the purpose of court-dictated support? They dictate the amount based on a variety of considerations. They don't dictate what it gets spent on. if both partners can agree on it themselves, the courts don't usually get involved. If one party has a problem with it they're free to seek court-ordered support arrangements. That's pretty naive. The funding party would have to have a certain amount of intelligence about what is happening with the money. If the kid d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 03:07 PM
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I dont necessarily believe it myself but am stating what I have seen others post here and in other subs. However I think its a fair argument to say that if the dissolution of a union can result in sizeable financial pain and you then lower the barrier to exiting that union, it seems a less attractive option. Getting rid of the idea of a commitment for life, however misguided, also naturally devalues the union in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 02:54 PM
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Alimony might be going away but there are no checks in place for the custodial parent spending child support on whatever the hell they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 02:50 PM
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Agreed that there is a good case for no fault divorce. I think the problem that people have it are two fold: 1) it devalues the point of marriage to the point where it isn't much more than an LTR 2) where fault actually occurs there isn't any recompense to the injured party and it doesnt play well with peoples sense of justice. I dont think there was really such a thing under the at fault system either though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 01:49 PM
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Day moisturiser (Kiehls Facial Fuel), Cleanser, Mask, Vitamin C serum, anti aging Eye cream (also Kiehls) and a night cream moisturiser. I usually end up in a fancy spa hotel a couple of times a year when the wife and I go with the father-in-law on his diplomatic visits. I prefer to get massages where possible but occasionally I'll get a facial treatment as well. I'm not a real fan of those and don't notice much difference but apparently you shouldn't get two massages in two days :S
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 01:32 PM
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Lmao. One of my brothers is unemployed and dating a model. Im pretty sure she can find a man her own age if she wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 01:14 PM
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A good argument with him in PMs made it pretty clear to me. I dont remember him posting all that much though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 10:28 AM
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If you are going to be picky you probably want to mention getting a lot of sleep and making sure to hydrate properly but this is a Reddit comment under the automod and not a skincare guide haha. Ofc eating properly is important. Doesn't change the fact that I've had good results from certain products and I'll take any incremental improvements that I can get my hands on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 08:20 AM
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They get around it by calling ours Mothering Sunday and then the other one International Mother's Day Interestingly ours predates Christmas as the first actual public holiday.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 07:42 AM
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You are describing the normal person there lol. Don't get fooled into thinking PPD and it's high focus on casual sex us the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 07:35 AM
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Why on earth would you care? It's pretty assumed that most guys who aren't manual labourers are doing some sort of skin care. I spend as much money on skin care as I do on one of my gym memberships. If anything the wife finds it more of a turn on due to the fact it smells great and my skin looks good compared to most of my contemporaries (damn you Asian guys and your never ageing!)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 07:32 AM
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Jokes on you, I'm back in London haha I'll look into the tags cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 01:50 PM
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Never heard of newb gains? A couple of weeks will make a small impact. Depends where you are starting from.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 10:42 AM
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I don't have internet sources but try "Sex, Genes and Rock and Roll". Thank you! I'll refamiliarise myself with it. I used to go to nightclubs all the time when I was young, never dated a much older guy. The two people I know who did were both very keen to settle down and have kids straight away. Well I can see why you hold the POV that you do. Nightclubs are stacked with 18-30 types and usually shade towards mid 20s and younger. Id be amazed if OLD didnt skew the same way. I know a lot more lar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:52 AM
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Haha he posts over on AskMen as well. I've definitely confused you guys as well. Doesn't help that he is a blue flaired guy and a total white knight so your positions are going to be fairly indistinguishable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:36 AM
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The reason that drives larger age gaps? Money. The poorer women are and with fewer opportunities, they higher the age gap. Mind sourcing that? Either way, I dont particularly disagree but I think its an opportunity and social group thing as much as anything else. Certainly in the case of my brothers, the ladies come from some very monied families.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:34 AM
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Yeah I dont mean that its easy or possible to become Chad, but it is easy to emulate him IMO. You can hit the gym, buy some nice new clothes, get a better haircut pretty quickly. The rest is just normal socialising and being willing to risk being rejected a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:12 AM
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There's actually a Netflix documentary which partly focuses on how important insta is in modern dating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 07:39 AM
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Yes I agree. Where I grew up it was actually the druggies and rock guys who did best with women. The idea of Quarterback Chad didn't really exist. However it's really easy to become RPs Chad, or at least incorporate part of it into your life. Especially relative to becoming some of the other types. I'd argue that the Chad probably does open up the largest amount of potential partners to you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 07:26 AM
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I always chuckle a bit when I see this thrown around on PPD. Two of my brothers (36 and 31) are dating 23 year olds. The demographic that hits on me most often when I'm at parties or something is 25 and under. Now this isn't to say that women definitely prefer older guys but I suspect platitudes like yours are driven entirely by the fact that you and your daughter aren't mixing with older guys on a regular basis that isn't some creep hitting on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 07:09 AM
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In fairness there is a sort of favoured archetype of man pushed by RP. I wonder how many of its adherents actually bother with it though. Seems, like a lot of RP, to be something you can take or leave as a dude but that gets latched onto hard by detractors. As for the why? Well when you are writing a guide it's pretty obvious you are going to shade towards examples. RP tries to emulate Chad because he is the foremost example of success with women in NA but he's also fairly attainable as a goal f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:39 AM
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Congratulations guys. Good choices all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:31 PM
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This is the same guy who posts on incelswithouthate with such gems as: https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelsWithoutHate/comments/b78aex/just_find_a_nice_girl_and_date_her_they_said I never really got this exceptionally pro-women stance some incels come out with. I guess if they think they can prove that women are holding all the cards they are exonerated for making no effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:43 AM
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I'm curious what you think of when you say dread game
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 06:17 PM
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Aye I only answered the topic, didn't go for the actual details here because it seemed like a specific example. Fair though! I can't imagine many women wanting to be second fiddle to the wife
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 10:18 PM
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I don't know where you are but I got hit on a shit load when I was in a social league soccer team. Just make sure you join a league that has mixed gender teams.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:23 PM
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I don't know if Id care. You can see her in videos and she clearly has a great body and great features. Makeup is obviously doing its thing but that's my definition of a 10 right there
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:00 PM
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I manage a team of them. We are constantly automating ourselves out of a job but breaking new ground to stay ahead of it. It's exactly like releasing new car models and having the machines learn to make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:02 PM
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Right. Its the authoritative men who are attractive. Men with exalted status or the ability to execute power. The difference today is that STEM guys are basically just assembly line guys. Highly paid drones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 05:28 PM
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She's failed to get a guy to commit a bunch of times, gotten pumped and dumped and is now falling back on classic FSM tactics to ensure commitment from a man. She's trying to weed out the late stage fuckbois lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 05:10 PM
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This sounds like a warped and, frankly, old timers response. The real answer is the prevalence of, and over reliance on, online dating and the destruction of the places where people used to get together IRL - as a Brit you must be familiar with the huge changes in pub culture. Add in delayed adolescence, much higher job mobility requirements and urban pull and you have a generation thats simply much lonelier in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 05:07 PM
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This chick is perfect: https://www.instagram.com/silvyaraujo/?hl=en
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 04:57 PM
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I just try and fight benzo for the title of most reasonable poster. I think he's winning but he's also taking illegal supplements.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 01:33 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:22 AM
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Your very first reply references being fat......
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:15 AM
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Male obesity is higher than female obesity. Looks like marriage does effect weight as well. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12112568 In each age and educational group, married individuals had a higher BMI than those who were never married. With the exception of well-educated males 51-60 years, differences in the BMI between married and never married individuals increased with age. In general, married men and women were more likely to be overweight and obese than never married individuals. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:06 AM
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Oh good. Women mate with men that are in similar social circles and status and in similar age groups, the man is usually a few years older than the woman or the same age and sometimes even younger. Yes this is entirely true and almost universally explains why most women marry men within 4 years of their own age. Young guys are hotter and more desirable than older ones. Wives are cheating on their husbands with young fellas all the time and not with someone older and more successful. Citation nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:03 AM
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Those are individuals, its not 'women' as a whole in the same way its not 'men' as a whole. I'm not even sure there is a trend in marriage here. There is probably some stat that shows mothers are fatter than non mothers but thats probably a little expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 10:45 AM
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I doubt its really a conscious decision in the majority of cases but a slow descent, maybe even retrograde, in lifestyle. Skip the gym a few days here, eat too many quick meals because the kids are acting up etc. As a married dude with a lot of married friends - I can say with certainty that its definitely both sexes that do it as well. In fact I don't know any men who've gotten in better shape post marriage but I do know a few women who've worked hard to lose baby weight, even with the preponde…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 10:28 AM
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I think your theory has some application at the High School, maybe even college level. Not so much in the remainder of the 20s. Its been my observation that women who radically alter the guys they go after aren't doing it because of external considerations at all - its because they, themselves, have changed. Maybe they've just grown bored of partying, maybe they just want someone to stay in and cook with. Quite often it seems like the besties have gone and paired off and they don't have the cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 10:23 AM
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Yeah my take is that its usually women who struggled with dating anyway. I think in the past 2-3 years I've only really come across 4 women who fit the AFBB archetype and ended up alone. Most slutty women end up hitched, I dont know how happily.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:35 AM
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I’d say that the life expectancy showing single women living longer than married women is a pretty good indicator of marriage being a bad deal for women. I forget the study, was there a reason given for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:27 AM
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And cats. Dont forget cats!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:19 PM
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r/AskWomen
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 03:44 PM
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Two major reasons: 1) not being prejudiced by bad behaviour of other members of your group i.e. cheating women 2) feeling like they deserve trust from a guy who likes them enough to want to marry them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 08:49 AM
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You struggle to believe that unmarried women couldnt find 'the right man'?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 08:35 AM
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Right. This is one thing I don't really get. I think the reds intend it as a cautionary tale to not date this sort of chick seriously but mgtow seems to have a real hard on for blaming women for their attraction triggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 08:24 AM
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I've never actually seen this. Most of the post wall single women I know are devoted aunts and carers for elderly relatives. I do think there is an element of choice in play though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:45 AM
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This is more what Rollo termed the Epiphany Phase. It's where a woman realises that the types of men she wanted commitment from won't marry her and she needs to adjust what she's looking for. The actual wall is just the point where average men start getting a large boost to their dating options, nullifying the advantage women have in their teens and twenties. Women will always have more options for meaningless sex though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:42 AM
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Basically bring in some of the functionality of OKCupid/Match to 'search' and then swipe from whats left. Parameters are pretty wide, can be anything from what they are looking for to whether or not they like to read lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:53 AM
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Basically bumble with some video functionality and the ability to filter people out en masse a bit easier so you dont have to swipe endlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:41 AM
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I'm pleased I haven't gone crazy and that you guys have noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:08 AM
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Ah Lewis didnt hate everyone. He just needed to feel like you were actually listening to what he was saying before he'd be civil with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:01 AM
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Live out the rest of my days as an angry hobo with wifi According to the women around here you'll probably be swimming in pussy haha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:39 AM
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You claim being funny/confident/etc. has nothing to do with female SMV. And I argue otherwise: it adds to their SMV (makes them sexier). No thats exactly what I'm saying. Your OP seems to think that men only consider looks to be part of SMV. I'm saying other things are a part of it and it is not a common viewpoint for men, including RP men, that they are not. You are arguing against a position which doesnt exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:38 AM
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This. I really doubt she is going to super turned on by the thirsty redditor who is begging her for a fuck at any rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:35 AM
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Yeah thats my point. If it were me I'd probably do whatever I could to maximise my value so I have a load of options after the marriage dissolves. Crank up that SMV even if you dont care about your RMV right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:34 AM
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I disagree with you. Being fun, confident, or even submissive, etc. can make girls sexier. Am I right in thinking that English is your second or third language? You are agreeing with me and invalidating your OP at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:32 AM
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No. It means Sexual Market Value after all lol. Now tell me why being fun/confident/charismatic doesnt fall under that definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:22 AM
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They framed this question within the context of TRP. You know, those guys castigated around here for only valuing women for casual sex. They dont argue that looks are everything lol. I've never once heard a man say that looks are everything with respect to a partner. SMV is everything? Sure. Thats the entire point of casual sex isnt it and SMV entirely encompasses what OP is so shocked that men find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:21 AM
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Well thats fair enough and a valid choice for you to take. I presume you wouldnt want to just talk about your issues ad naseum either would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:19 AM
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I suggest you read up on what makes up SMV before going down this line of argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:18 AM
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You and OP have just totally misunderstood the difference between SMV and RMV
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:06 AM
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Man, I've seen this play out so many times lol. It's basically the genesis of Tumblr feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:44 AM
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I think this thread is accidentally straying into a discussion on the key difference between red and blue pills: value. Blues will always talk about communication as the single greatest factor in a relationship, particularly as it relates to solving issues. Reds will try to be the change they want to see. I suspect that most people would like to, and probably lie to themselves that they do, be able to tell themselves that they are already doing everything they can to add value to their relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:22 AM
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You've had a run at 8&9 havent you haha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 07:06 PM
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I think a true red would be better but if sandman or cxj don't fancy it, they should definitely offer it to you tbh. If that doesn't work out - then I'll do it haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 06:56 PM
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Happy cake day
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 04:20 PM
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I was subbed to TiA for ages and didnt even notice the titty bar. What the fuck is wrong with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 03:52 PM
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Ofc it was. Hell I even saw a decent guide for getting out of a Dead Bedroom in one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 11:38 AM
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Lol. I used to read FHM magazine as a teen. They had all sorts of articles like this. There was even a guide on how to get strippers into bed lol. How effective they were IDK. I'm sure if you read menshealth, artofmanliness etc they will all have stuff like this. However I will say that I think a lot of this stuff in recent times has stemmed from The Game in the same way as I guess some of RP does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 09:59 AM
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'Sell me this pen' posts should probably be banned in all honesty. It's hard to see how it fosters any sort of positive discussion at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 08:08 AM
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while they tend to omit or downplay the importance the t2 stuff. You mean t1 right? Thats just the phenomenon of women (and I guess men too) not considering the t1 stuff at all because its assumed to be present.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 03:59 PM
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Id probably argue that its not lifting that grants confidence but success, which is misattributed to changes stemming from lifting. However its not just that though. Lifting really just bumps self esteem in the same way as buying some nice new clothes and getting a cool haircut can. They are noticeable and often commented on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:48 PM
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because I have more charisma and I'm fun to be around And the pills mate. Dont forget the pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:54 PM
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Maybe a ho who is cool to fuck without ever saying a word to him? Even amongst total sluts thats a minority lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 10:58 AM
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Yeah, until he opens his mouth. I'm not sure thats better than the guy who needs a little time to grow on people tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 10:56 AM
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Right yes. 100% agree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 09:34 AM
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I don't follow sorry. You saying it's probably a true story?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 09:15 AM
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What are you talking about? The guy I described is terrible with women. They just find him nice to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 09:14 AM
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I work with a guy. He's 6'3 and well built. Blonde hair and blue eyes. When he walks into a room the ladies synchronously do their best impression of meerkats. He's also German and can only really hold conversation about Ibiza lol. He's genuinely not interesting at all. The most important part of RP isn't lifting, it's confidence. Lifting serves two main purposes: 1) it's something you can get up and start doing immediately and is a tangible metric by which to measure self improvement 2) it buil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 08:22 AM
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Basically. Good post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 08:19 AM
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I mean she's not wrong. Bodybuilding, if you believe what they say, turns off some women. It's just that they are thinking Ronnie Coleman instead of your normal gym bro. Just being in shape with some muscular definition is pretty universally attractive. Women in PPD just have this weird idea that you get there by yard work or something instead of lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 08:16 AM
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Congratulations on discovering the difference between red and black pillers. Reds just want to know the technique to win the game, black wants the game to change before they play.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 08:06 AM
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The scenario presented doesn't actually offer enough information to decide what was lying on purpose, does it? Nope. Most of the time this scenario comes up the guy is totally blindsided though which implies blind faith on his part or outright lies. I can't envisage him having a problem with it 'suddenly' after 5 years though. I agree with you that a BF who finds out something that horrifies him, does not owe it to anyone to stay no matter the years he's invested. I think also that between two l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 09:41 PM
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The timeline is my issue with this one. 5 years is enough time for the majority of undesirable behaviours, that are signalled by this sort of behaviour, to manifest. They clearly haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 09:25 PM
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Not really. The whole point of the sunk cost fallacy is to look at a snapshot of things in the present. He should look at how happy he is today regardless of the history there. In this case - he kinda sounds happy enough regardless. It's obviously more complex than this though. I personally think that people do build up a certain amount of capital in a relationship that's 5 years long, I just don't know if it would necessarily apply if there was lying or intentional lying by omission as that bui…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 09:21 PM
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Idk i think of it the same as any late revealed deal breaker, as this seems to be presented to be. 5 years is a bit of a long time to throw away though, especially as it would point to a change of character if she's remained faithful AND no other ramifications have sprung up. I do think that sunk cost fallacy isn't a strong reason to stay though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 08:10 PM
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I think you are right that this probably has a disproportionate effect on unhappy relationships anyway but it's definitely possible that knowledge like this could (and does if you believe the accounts of it) introduce that unhappiness in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 06:22 PM
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Ah I forgot the Iberians! They are pretty much like the Italians for the most part
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 05:59 PM
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The further East you go, the shitter people dress tbh. Outside of London, Paris, Stockholm and pretty much the entirety of Italy people don't really dress that much better than in the States.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 04:18 PM
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Women used to just want a good man and the level of good man was really decided by the locale. Today internet dating and urban concentration, coupled with women's increased sense of self worth has made that somewhat harder to attain. I don't know if I'd say they were less happy due to this though. Most women I know are perfectly happy most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 01:03 PM
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Seconded
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 08:28 PM
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High value is relative to the beholder and to the observed group no? Women getting together with guys before they are 28 probably don't think they are low value and, at worst, have a directional sense of where he is going to end up. At the absolute level I agree with you though. Early and mid 20s are building block years and many facets of RMV do take a little bit of building.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 08:17 AM
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Welcome back
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 05:30 PM
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Whodathunk that if you style yourself like a Westerner, act like a Westerner and dont smell of curry you'd do well......
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 09:47 AM
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Herein lies the problem really. Fat you is having to do the song and dance routine for chicks to give you the same thing they are giving the thin you based just on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 08:02 AM
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Thats actually a fair counterpoint to that. Touche
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 02:15 PM
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Being an SAHM used to be a good thing when marriage was still forever. But now that divorce is a bigger thing- the risks outweigh the benefits. With women initiating 70% of divorces its a bit of a self inflicted wound dontcha think? Female infidelity is basically the same until 50+ as well. In any case I thought 20 year old women weren't into crusty old 50 year olds? Now I actually agree that being a SAHM isnt necessarily a good thing. I think flexible hours, part time work and daycare/relatives…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 01:58 PM
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Yeah men will generally have a problem with it for similar reasons as women. They are happy to support someone who is adding value but will be disgruntled if they end up dead bedroomed and still doing all the housework etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 08:23 AM
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This is the same guy who can't tell underage girls from women whilst grooming them though. Bit of a failing of his visual acuity is to be expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 11:13 PM
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I could reply to this thread but id rather make out with my Monroe bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:16 PM
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Been with the wife for 12.5 years, married for 6.5. She's the hottest woman I've been with, smart and from a very good family (the extent of which I'm still discovering). She chose me when she was just 19 with a very low n count but a libido filled to bursting. From day one she pushed and supported me to be the best version of me that I could be. Back then I was just a guy with potential from a top quality university and an edgy sense of humour. Over those years she's stuck with me through some …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 04:44 PM
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Well I'm not saying that people are getting married at 20, Im saying that the best ones are getting into relationships that lead to marriage at the end of, or just after, college. Actual age of marriage is still mid to late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 01:31 PM
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I agree with you but also want to add to this: Men who wanted to settle down, already did. As did the women. I see this around me a lot these days. Women who know what they want out of life are going after it early. The best 'wife material' women are made that way in their early 20s and pairing off with their future husbands. It is a mix of relationship breakdowns and what RP calls AF/BB going on for the remainder with some women ending up leftovers but the majority still finding someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 11:39 AM
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Not sure about LA but I've lived in London and NYC. I think people of both gender are pretty well out together in both. You might be right about couples from Long Island and somewhere out in South London though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 07:28 AM
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I rather suspect that both sexes are moving for the unique and well paid job opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 03:50 PM
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Well if you want to make fun of reds you are obviously going to paint them with the black pill brush arent you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 01:24 PM
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I'd agree in that they'd apply the boyfriend filters on top of the looks filters. Other dating sites will match based on those criteria first so the looks filtering comes later. Id need some convincing that this markedly lowers aesthetic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 12:04 PM
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However the worrying aspect about this, is that there has been an enormous shift towards online dating, especially in urban environments, so female preferences have almost been forced to be more superficial then they’d naturally be. I take issue with this. You are right that there is a large shift towards online dating as social circles become seemingly more closed and insular but there isn't any forcing of female aesthetic standards here, in fact its the opposite. With only looks to go on, wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 11:44 AM
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Depends on location though. Take a walk around London or New York and you will be largely seeing in shape, well dressed and groomed individuals walking around - especially in the 18-30 bracket that is the majority of the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 10:50 AM
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I suspect it is as much to do with social media as porn tbh. I also think it goes out of the window as soon as they get anywhere near a real relationship and that men are still going to go dumpster diving if they are desperate and low value (like the virtue signalling blues on here for example).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 10:47 AM
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Most species will also engage in a certain level of violence in order to secure mating rights. The rule of law gives men protection from this and women more rights to choose their mates so its hardly a good cognate at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 10:39 AM
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Actually yes. I've come to realise that I am really picky. However I also think my pickiness isnt necessarily in the realm of Insta 10s. I'm not sure if im average or not tbh. Probably average facially and slightly above for height and physique? I've been married for nearly 7 years (together 13) so alls pretty good on that front. My wife is definitely very attractive. She gets stopped by tourists who want pictures with her quite often (and guess who gets to take the pictures!). She looks like a …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 10:25 AM
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Not sure about Super Dry, apart from their stores seem to be thronging with Chinese people, but Ben Sherman definitely falls into the bucket of 'high street designer' as I said. As long as it looks and feels good thats all that matters!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 10:17 AM
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Strange. See I do have a big chest (and broad shoulders) which is why I get expensive button downs. It is true that more 'designer' high street brands will be too snug. I used to be friends with a manager at a Hugo boss store who did a bit of tailoring. She told me that they didn't make any clothes with the athletic guy in mind, let alone the jacked or obese man. Where are you buying T-shirts if I might ask? If you just need a classic T or polo for wandering around, I actually find the Uniqlo on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 07:38 AM
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Eh? Im 6ft and only ever buy M t-shirts (specifically measured button downs obvs). I know Americans do bigger mediums but it's rare to find medium shirts which don't fit me fine in the UK. The only way I can see it being a problem is if I had massive biceps
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 09:41 PM
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Being a short man isn't a choice and tends to be less frequently attended by a host of character flaws. Kinda depends what you consider high n though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 08:26 AM
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Lol if you don't think every guy goes through a certain amount of looks and deal-breaker gatekeeping, just as women do, then you are crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 11:51 AM
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Sorry to hear that :(
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 02:55 PM
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Yes we like people who like us back lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 10:29 AM
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They can smell the menstruation!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 10:28 AM
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Good post, ending my lurk. For me the whole insecurity thing is the result of a lack of precision in language. I think TGP rambled about it. It's become a catchall for certain types of emotional responses largely aimed at being an ad hominem shaming attack. I've never once heard a normal person with functional relationships throw out the insecurity label before, it's always been a gay person defending their sexuality, a woman in a 'man's job' or - on PPD at least - women defending choices which …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 09:03 AM
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Well compromise is either "an agreement or settlement of a dispute that is reached by each side making concessions." or "the expedient acceptance of standards that are lower than is desirable.". I'm talking about realisation of needs I didnt even realise existed. There wasnt a dispute or anything, not even a discussion. I just worked out where to just not involve her at all, where to discuss things with her etc. Reds would call it 'Captaining the Ship' I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 02:54 PM
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This but I'd change compromise more to 'better understand what she needs from me on a day to day basis'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 01:35 PM
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Aside from the usual people being nicer, more obvious IoIs from women etc you tend to get some strange behaviour as well. The one that sparked my train of thought was that people tend to come and stand near me when I'm on a subway/underground train.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 01:25 PM
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Thats an anger phase response mate. Getting all the pill truths really makes the romance part easier and more fulfilling because you arent playing a rigged game anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 01:00 PM
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Yeah presumably only if they are under the age of consent and you can punch them in the face afterwards right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 10:14 AM
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For intercourse yes. For oral the technique weighting goes up significantly. Enthusiastically scraping a cock with teeth is still scraping a cock with teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 09:43 AM
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Jafar wasn't the sidekick
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 07:38 AM
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Ignorance is bliss. As long as they don't realise they are paying more and getting less they can feel valued as husbands and fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 08:13 PM
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Isn't he just a tradcon? Those attitudes seem to be making a bit of a comeback. What's his view on casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 06:50 PM
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Lol did they even do tours? Are they discontinuing operations? I remember reading that it was considered the most female friendly BDSM site.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 03:24 PM
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Oh. I could have sworn there was a sort of policy change. My bad! I guess its up to personal interpretation but lets go with ye olde report em all and let mods sort em out :) Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 12:40 PM
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Thanks - appreciate the honest reply! I will try to report more of the woe is me posts and replies I see. Out of interest, has there been any discussion at all on restoring the complete ban on incel content? Even for a short time?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 12:32 PM
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Superset or gtfo....... I do the exact same thing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 11:22 AM
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I dunno. I think it used to be antagonistic between Red and Blue viewpoints. Now it just seems to be Man vs Woman and its weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 11:14 AM
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I weirdly agree with you and /u/Workaholico . A little bit of maturation and establishment is both a huge enabler for male attractiveness as well as a potential status granter as well (which is obviously a part of SMV). However dudes do need to actively work on themselves constantly, in all aspects of their lives, to get that payoff. Waaay too many guys are happy to stagnate in 'good enough' jobs. A huge number just let themselves go. Its the difference between potential and actual results and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 11:01 AM
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This is the exact situation we have right now. Hell it doesn't even need to be gender as long as you aren't overly specific In your character attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 08:49 AM
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Out of interest, what would it take to see an end to the incel/femcel plague we are enduring right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 08:48 AM
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Haha im not even a manwhore and ive used an uncomfortable number of those. I love talking about feelings. Cant believe you've ever said this sincerely haha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 05:52 PM
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If you think that doing all of those things is only good for women then you clearly don't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 12:03 PM
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You are literally posting on a sub that is constantly discussing the merits of getting in shape, dressing better, getting a wider social circle, getting interesting hobbies etc and you think I'm the one who is struggling to come up with better ideas than the shit you just said. LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 11:46 AM
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Yeah essentially. Just taking PPD back to the stone age with strawmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 11:38 AM
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Basically. Im not convinced OP has any bloody idea what they are talking about lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 10:50 AM
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Those are not even close to the most effective things people can do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 10:49 AM
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Fair enough. Glad it works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 07:55 PM
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You could argue yes when I've had FMF's Well presumably thats not swinging per se and/or you are going to have to sit out for the other dude at some point? you get the benefits of being a player, and the benefits of being married. Except for exclusive sexual access to the wife :P most people try to fuck at their level or better. I probably get better quality women as a swinger than I would solo Well that makes sense given someone else is taking care of their emotional/financial needs. Are they g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 05:28 PM
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Maybe confidence is what makes people attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 05:10 PM
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Are you really being a player if you are offering your own wife in trade though?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 05:10 PM
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I thought it was about as relevant information as your question. London is one of the most international cities in the world. It has only about 45% White British population and is famous for Indian communities in the East, West Indian in a couple of locations, Antipodean in the West, a fairly large Chinese student population etc. Given that most women show an in group bias - there is something there for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 01:37 PM
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Used to do 400m in the low 50 seconds
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 12:51 PM
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Bro London is one of the easiest cities in the world to get action in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 12:33 PM
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Unfortunately this place took a bit of a dive over the latter half of 2018. Good reds post with less frequency, good blues hardly seem to post at all. Almost every OP is just some incel anger/woe is me fest. Never thought I'd say it but I miss the old mod team lol. At least the absolute ban on incel material was conducive towards more interesting and insightful posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 10:39 AM
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Resentment is not the same as unwilling to date. Y'all need to get over this whole shaming strategy thing, tends to make people look like idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 09:54 AM
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No way. What was he like? I like to imagine him throwing you out of the twin saloon doors with a pithy comment - also have an upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 07:35 AM
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Indeed. Unfortunately upon receiving the 'right' answer they've decided they don't like it. It's tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 07:33 AM
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Well by all means feel free to disagree lol. I'm not even arguing in favour of such a thing just stating my own opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 10:52 PM
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Well I don't really know the situation but sounds like it wasn't exactly what I described. In any case I'm not saying I'm supportive of it, just that I understand and wouldn't judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 09:17 PM
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Dead Bedroom in marriage that has kids. If a person has done absolutely everything they can to rekindle things but their partner has just decided they don't need sex (and I mean full sexlessness not just a bit less than ideal) then I think, as long as they can be discrete, cheating isn't all that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 09:04 PM
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One of two scenarios I'm ok with cheating tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 07:29 PM
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Yup. Thats my point exactly. Maybe I should have phrased it as 'lack of metabolism' or something else. I'm 33 and probably the most attractive I've ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 04:25 PM
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Autistic people are human too. Nice strawman. Never said they weren't. Here's the thing. Autistic people can live relatively normal lives. They aren't all rain man and if they were - nothing is going to suddenly make them attractive. You are falling for the just world fallacy yourself. Maybe its hard but unfortunately the advice remains the same, maximise your looks, status, wealth and whatever but you also have to at least try and crack the social bit as well. I've known autists who have manage…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 03:12 PM
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Late but great post, i'm saving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 01:53 PM
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Im not talking about it in general so much as in a very specific way. Increasing testosterone makes muscular development easier, the ability to grow convincing facial hair etc. Only a moron would think women arent dealing with hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 01:29 PM
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I have to agree with you. Women learn early to max their looks. A lot of men (me included) seem to get by on being athletic or just naturally having a nice face or something. Part of the reason I think men peak later is due to this knowledge coming together and then having enough money to really action it. I also think their is a certain amount of metabolism/hormones at play for dudes which women maybe dont have to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 10:47 AM
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Which platform are you using? Either way you can get No More Mr Nice Guy, Models by Mark Manson, Married Man Sex Life Primer on kindle
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 09:39 AM
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Those guys you see who get it and do well with women aren't succeeding because they had a father who sat them down and told them all of the secrets to pussy. That doesn't actually happen. They're doing well because they're socially normal and figured shit out. If you don't figure it out, you're socially abnormal, and a single mother home isn't what screwed you. Whilst I agree with this I think it's a little shallow. The guys who really got it were the early bloomers. They had some success early …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 08:37 AM
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Well, there kinda is. You see the manosphere has moved the chains on dating advice perceptibly. I've seen discussions on some of the sidebar texts in completely mainstream subs and other websites. When I posted this question over a year ago someone posted links to the art of manliness as an example. I agree with your general premise though. Alternative advice tends to be post RP and seems to pretty obviously draw from it. It's also a message diluted by other shit like how to shave or tie a full …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 08:19 AM
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Can confirm. One of the other mods ran a lot of interference for him in the aftermath. Apparently we can only allude to it now at risk of bans lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 07:38 AM
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The reds will tell you to maximise your assets in order to have the greatest number and quality of options. You can go get girls as an average guy. Just have a bit of a flirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 09:38 PM
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The first 5 (left to right) on the top row are closer to average.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 09:34 PM
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Yo do realise you just linked a screenshot that captioned this pic as 'below average' right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 09:30 PM
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Because OP linked himself and wants to date white chicks and is looking for people to affirm that he is good enough to get her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 09:12 PM
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Agreed that guy isn't average but the girl is about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 09:05 PM
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Great post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 10:42 AM
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This but also let's not forget opportunity here. College, med school, residency etc. Most docs are going to end up with other docs because they are the only ones they ever get to see lol. It's curious she picks just the two professions where this model occurs as well. I know loads of tech CEOs and bankers who are with pretty, much younger women (supermodel is a bit of a stupid one seeing as there aren't many of them and they aren't even the ideal for most men).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 03:36 PM
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Right this exactly. It makes logical sense to an extent but this position unfortunately attempts to bypass how most men want to be valued and then lies about it! From a dudes perspective you either need a woman who doesn't put out early for anyone (and how would you you know?) or who also fucks you on the first date - at which point your value to her under your own value system is, at best, the same as every other guy lol. It's completely fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 03:33 PM
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If you are as pasty as I am you need to get out well before else you risk bursting into flames with the dawn
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:56 AM
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It's self fulfilling for women now. They've doubled down on this situation. At this point, as a dude, you might as well shoot for immediate sex and drop her if she doesn't put out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:55 AM
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You've been into the sugar again havent you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 05:52 PM
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In fact I went looking and couldnt find what I was after because there are so many studies on it. https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/14/perfect-body-looks-like-according-men-women-7630339/ Turns out that both sexes want to be 10-20 lbs lighter than the opposite sex ideal haha, though half of both sexes would like their partner to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:15 PM
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Promise I'm not stalking you lol. There was that study a few years ago that had composite images of the ideal body as viewed by both sexes. Women thought slimmer and smaller women had better bodies where men preferred a more curves. Women preferred lean men and men idealised the heavily muscled strongman. What TRP is getting right is that you should be in shape and shoot for definition, probably diminishing returns on size past a certain point though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:01 PM
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Well - individual women and their aggregate decisions. If you think you are high value enough for a woman like that then you do you. You should be aware that you are targeting the most sought after group of women in the West though so you have a hell of a lot of competition even before taking same-race preferences into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 01:56 PM
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