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Yup, that's how I use it. Should really use the term OLD instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 02:40 PM
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2:3 is perfect! I am aware of resolution limits and stuff. 🙂 But they have cool premium products in 4x6 inches. I have already ordered a few variations of Rat Race. Can't wait to have it in my hands and show you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:22 AM
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I'll have it printed in high quality. (I have already checked options). 😃 And I will of course send you a pic of its rightful place in my "memorabilia"- shelf. 🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 12:34 AM
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😳 I love it, man. I am honestly lost for words. The original picture was top of the world. V2 is otherworldly. It tells a real story. My spirit animal, the sewer rat, in its natural habitat. I just can't stop looking at all the details. The reflections on the sunglasses. The rat-skull'n'crossbones... I swear, if you put this in with 50 other pictures and gave it to my friends, they all would say "This one. This is Guitars" as soon as they saw this picture. (Even with the dedication erased). This…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 12:18 AM
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Oh, it's deep. 🙂 The picture represents me on many levels and some of them are "wouldn't feel comfortable talking about it"- deep. And I honestly can't imagine anything a V2 could do better than the original already does. 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 06:04 PM
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Like it?! I love it, bro! It's perfect! I am literally in tears. You beautiful beautiful artist! Thank you, SO much! I wanted to commission it out years ago but I didn't find an artist on Fiverr that gave me the impression that they could capture the mood that I wanted. And now you drew it as a gift for me and it's better than I could have imagined. I am truly blessed. I need to find a better frame and need to re-arranged my prized possessions but it's already looking good.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 04:28 PM
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Do you have a request? t was kind of a last night thing but I’m sure I’ll have time today and you’re cool Omg, yes! 😃 You wouldn't believe how happy it would make me. 🙂 A ragged but cute sewer rat who is holding a milkshake in both hands. It's blissfully happy because of the milkshakes. Not "triumphantly happy" but "I could and maybe will hug the whole world because I am so happy"- happy. (The rat completely forgets the depressing sewers and rightfully so).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 02:51 PM
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Man, that's awesome. I can imagine that it's a lot of fun, but knowing that it's also really challenging, I wonder how you pull through without a practical use for the world. But I am just learning to enjoy doing things for the heck of it. I wish I had learned to just enjoy doing stuff sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 10:55 AM
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Man, I love your style of drawing. I'd happily trade in my guitar skills to be able to draw like that. My first girlfriend drew chibis that conveyed lots of emotion and your drawings do, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 10:51 AM
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worldbuilding Just for the heck of it? I know what worldbuilding means in an RPG context or if you're writing stories. But you just make worlds up because it's fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 10:44 AM
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We have to break from it to love it again. And it helps to find new approaches. Sometimes you get stuck in a rut.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 10:26 AM
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Ah, I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 02:27 AM
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But it wasn't really about the dance industry, was it? I mean the group did their own thing. No coach, no manager or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 02:22 AM
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People say it won’t make you feel better once you experience it but I feel like it would in my case. It will make you feel better. I have been in your situation and before/after was a day and night difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 02:05 AM
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Of course I would. An exception would be if I am in no position to because I was struggling myself. Or if it wasn't a close friend I really care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 01:39 AM
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Wow, beautiful! But the cuddling vids with your cat top your pictures. 🙂😺
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:29 PM
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Mugatu to the rescue!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:10 PM
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As if you weren't already. 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 08:08 AM
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🍻
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 08:06 AM
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I know exactly what you mean. It's basically "rate me"- mentality versus "rate my picture"- mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 07:21 AM
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I want to see an action movie starring guy 10 (underrated) and guy 11. Now! 🍿
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 07:05 AM
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how being attractive skews my view of the world and I’ll just never understand their struggles and something about Chad That was my plan actually! 😅Immediately after seeing that it was you. You look great. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:58 AM
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What the fuck are you talking about?!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 12:09 AM
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Fuck: Taylor Swift. But only to have her sign an autograph with dedication for /u/death_by_1000_cats
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 11:40 PM
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One thing that comes to mind is that expressing certain feelings can trigger male protective instincts. Which would aid in survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:00 PM
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I become less wonderful and I can understand the temptation to claim... you were bad all along and now this is the true you unearthed. But that is a very uncharitable interpretation. Very important point. I am wondering if it isn't only uncharitable...it could even be a fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 07:49 PM
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It’s finally just so fun to try and understand these things. Definitely. I always feel bad when I can't contribute when you make a high-effort post. I am more of an anecdote guy than a philosopher guy. 🙂 But I love reading the different takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 04:04 PM
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Damn...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:45 PM
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No discussion should be banned. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:16 PM
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Good points. I wish I could say something more constructive but ultimately I don't care about the exact reasons behind it. It's like retroactive jealousy or an aversion to high n-counts. It's something that bothers you and you don't even know why. You can then try to find out why exactly it bothers you, but in my experience, it doesn't change anything. Trying to get to the root of it is commendable, but I have, for myself, decided just to accept that it is like it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 12:40 PM
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If it was close friends, I wouldn’t want to risk hurting them. I completely agree with you. You don't date the ex of close friends. Friends you care about. Bro- code doesn't allow it! But casual friends? A guy you don't really like that much? Nope. Some bro- code rules apply to buddies, but certainly not this one. I wouldn't even discuss or debate it. He is not a close friend you care about, end of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 06:03 AM
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I usually don’t let that type of thing bother me Why wouldn't it bother you? They are being rude af...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:46 AM
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Man, that makes less sense than nofap in my opinion. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:03 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:42 AM
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Purple pill is not dating advice. Blue pill is not dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:40 AM
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FDS is dating advice for women...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:36 AM
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Most common dating advice is "lose some weight" or "don't be a couch potato, be active". But TRP says "lift heavy!" And this is an important difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:32 AM
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I learned the basics from a PUA message board and a single page handbook on a website. I was completely clueless before and it helped a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:30 AM
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Yes, it happens. Orbiter/friendzone dynamics can be really really problematic for everyone involved. It can wreak havoc on social circles in a worst case scenario. We talk about it a lot for a reason. And I understand that it's often difficult for women to handle such a situation. You decide to distance yourself from him (your "friend") and suddenly you look like a disloyal bitch to some people. You don't want to hurt his feelings by being blunt and suddenly you look like a manipulative bitch to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 12:55 AM
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Well deserved. 👊 Got some serious Michael Jai White vibes from the pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 12:40 AM
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What did the poor wall do to deserve being kicked?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:57 PM
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Everything the light touches is the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:51 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:43 PM
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wow!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 10:42 PM
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Thanks. I honestly didn't know what else to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 08:49 PM
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No, that's not accurate. TRP just says that love is not unconditional. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 08:05 PM
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Drawing/painting comes to mind because one of my gfs was really good at it and I really think I found her even more attractive because of her drawings and paintings. Playing an instrument and singing can be attractive, too. Depending on how she expresses herself through the music. It somehow amplifies both character qualities and non-qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 06:40 PM
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It’s interesting how many men here claim women care more about looks then men Do they say that? I thought the consensus is just that women rate men's looks harsher than men rate women's. That doesn't necessarily mean they "care" more about looks. Women care about a lot of stuff when judging a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 09:45 PM
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Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 08:44 PM
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Habe you ever tried triptans? They are a magic weapon against migraines. But they might clash with your anxiety meds, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 03:44 PM
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I think it's done intentionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:29 PM
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It's going to be a lot worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:26 PM
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It was very different many years ago. Stuff that got you "that's not only misogynistic, it's wrong" back then, gets you an "of course it's true but everybody knows it, you don't need red pill to tell you that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 10:11 PM
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Well done telling her off!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 05:52 PM
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It just feels wrong... And that never goes away! 🙂😃 (If you're the kind of guy who just really doesn't like it) If you don't have sex while shotgunning, it doesn't feel as wrong. And know that they often do the same. Like the girls would feel hurt if they knew. You can let them know. Especially in your 30s most women kind of expect you to do it. I really don't like it but there's no reason to shoot yourself in the foot when most women are okay with it and see it as a welcome challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 04:57 PM
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Yup. But remember that people don't necessarily think that they have to make up for a lack of looks by being nice/enthusiastic/whatever. "Dating down" in looks doesn't automatically give you an enthusiastic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 04:19 PM
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Taking things for granted is the relationship- killer. And there's not always bad intentions behind it. Some things we just don't see. I have been guilty of taking things for granted, too, and I could slap my past self silly for it. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 03:11 PM
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You have to have done both, serial and parallel dating, to understand how much of an advantage parallel dating is. It affects you on many different levels. I hate it but the shotgun approach so much more effective than the sniper approach that I couldn't in good conscience tell guys not to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:35 PM
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A woman of culture, I see. 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 01:22 PM
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If a man is doing that then he needs to seek help as he obviously has issues that need addressing. It's not as obvious as you seem to think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:24 AM
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Of course women are allowed to do all of that. And men are allowed to reject women for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:21 AM
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We shouldn’t, and don’t, if that’s what matters to men 🙂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:07 AM
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What I hear is I’m only interested in sex with women as fast and as cheap as possible. Oh, I have no doubt that that's the real problem in many or maybe even most cases. But there are men who love courtship. I actually prefer taking it slow. What I don't like is when she expects courtship from me and takes it for granted while she didn't expect it from men the past. It didn't happen a lot tbh. But it did happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:06 AM
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The ending of "Inside Out" made a friend of me cry. Every time he watches the movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 01:49 AM
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All true but also: If you're a slut, why should you get good girl treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 01:01 AM
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It is counter- productive. It boggles my mind that so many women don't even try to understand men and see that it might not be a good idea to talk about their sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 12:25 AM
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They seem to be terribly afraid of looking like a "boring good girl". That's one of the reasons they often tell their bfs about their less than flattering sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 12:21 AM
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What if every woman say around and thought I wonder if he treated his last girl to steak house dinners but he only takes me to chili’s. I wouldn't blame her. Especially not when I am giving her the impression or tell her that I am a guy who has just decided that chili is enough for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 12:19 AM
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Details vary. But she will tell you a story where she didn't make the guy wait sooner or later.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 12:08 AM
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Easy. They tell you sooner or later.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 12:00 AM
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Nope, you should be aiming for a woman who made the guys before you wait, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:42 PM
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😂😂😂 Have fun! 🙋‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:36 PM
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Yup. This is it. Courtship is fun. Being a sucker is not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:29 PM
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Yikes!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:25 PM
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Wow. The 1-10 scale has always been stupid but now it's just ridiculously stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:22 PM
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Gamer Gate helped spread manosphere knowledge. Feminists attacked gamers --> gamers became aware of feminist talking points --> gamers saw rebuttals and memes of manospherians --> red pills for everyone --> spill over into real life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:53 PM
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🙋‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:41 AM
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She will have a much better life if she doesn't make it her default assumption. 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 11:47 PM
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I know exactly what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 11:30 PM
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Becky thinks you are only pretending to be nice because you want to sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 11:24 PM
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TRP is definitely not for neurodivergent guys. TRP should have a disclaimer that clearly states it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:13 PM
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Sounds like the gym is too strenous for you. It should be a safe- space and it clearly isn't. I think you would do better with just doing a barbell workout at home to stay in shape. Overhead press, barbell rows and squats (squats with low weight because you don't have a cage). Enough to work your whole body. It's not ideal, but it's enough to stay in shape, even be athletic, and you don't need machines, a bench or equipment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:09 PM
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🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:00 PM
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Yup. I am okay with it and even encourage it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:35 PM
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I wouldn't have a problem with any of the stuff you listed. But the fact that they were romantically involved changes things. Not because I'd trust her less but because I don't want to meet or know anything about guys who have had sex with her in the past. Retroactive jealousy. So in short: If they didn't have sex in the past, I wouldn't have a problem with anything on the list. If they did have sex in the past, I wouldn't marry her in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:28 PM
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Never! I never had friendships with girls or women I was crushing on. They were attractive but not my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 02:58 PM
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Do you have any positive platonic female friendships? Always had. Does it affect how you view women? Not really. They confirm red pill views. What do you learn from your female friends? Enjoying life. What do you like about those friendships vs male friendships? The energy is different. Can't explain it. Both male and female friends are awesome, but different. Plus: It's nice being around attractive women even when you are platonic friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:41 PM
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Yup!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:16 AM
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No. But it's settling if a woman thinks her partner is a 5 when he's actually a 6.5. And that happens a lot. Perceived SMV/RMV is more important than actual SMV/RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:12 AM
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Yeah, that won't happen. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 06:55 PM
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Prostitution is legal here. Doesn't seem to make a difference. Most guys don't want to have sex with prostitutes for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 06:51 PM
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I had the revenge fantasy of seeing women struggle and ending up alone, yes. And then in my 30s, the revenge fantasy finally came true. 🥳 But it turned out that I couldn't really enjoy seeing them suffer except in some cases. Schadenfreude is not really my thing. 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 01:38 PM
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The term is only used because Jordan Peterson often brings it up. It's one of the traits in the big 5 personality test. So it's a technical term. There's no other reason that men use the term agreeable instead of nice or considerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 12:05 AM
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wow
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 11:59 PM
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Guilty as charged. 😅 (Though not to that extend. Would never say or think "disgusting").
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:58 PM
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But how would squads hurt? Whatever she is doing now to maintain a flat stomach will be easier when she does heavy squats because the squads burn calories. Yeah, I get that low bf means she will not have a big bubble butt, but definitely a nicer butt than she has without squads. So in my opinion, squads would have two main advantages: 1. Burn calories and make dieting easier 2. Nice butt despite low bf
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:17 PM
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Maintaining a flat stomach is much easier when you do heavy squats. Two birds with one stone. But as long as you're not overweight, your ass will be fine no matter the size. Don't worry about it. 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:24 PM
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In terms of dating only? Or are you asking what we would do with our lives if we didn't have to worry about dating? (I find both questions interesting btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:15 PM
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I didn't sleep around after my transformation from unsuccessful clueless nerd to reasonably good looking guy with (at least some) options. Had a four year long relationship with the first girl I had sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:41 AM
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😂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 08:18 AM
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Why would that be a problem to a potential partner It is a problem because it might correlate with what you said earlier: I’d love a long term monogamous relationship but I don’t like most people after a while lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:23 AM
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If I said I never did, I would be lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:11 AM
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I was only addressing the "escapism"- part of the original post. And I don't think that tradcons are more escapist in their thinking than progressives. Progressives often seem to drift way more into escapism. Just picture a cliché social justice warrior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:08 AM
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Interesting. 🇬🇧 That's why I have Germany in my flair. Take everything I say with a grain of salt!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:27 PM
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It's considered weird to go up and talk to a woman out of the blue. Yup. Cold approaches seem to be even less accepted here in Germany. But it's not as if cold approaches were super appreciated in the USA, right? In Germany , if you're not educated yourself, you have little chance with university-educated women. True. But isn't it the same overseas? I mean: Dating sucks here. I don't know if it sucks even more or slightly less elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:34 PM
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Why not look elsewhere? Where exactly? If you aren't religious and not looking for a religious woman? Where do you find a woman that hasn't dated an asshole? "Why not look elsewhere" sounds great, but where is that elsewhere exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:30 PM
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I honestly don't know how to answer that question. I have no dating experience in other countries, so I can't really make a goodcomparison. I don't think that dating here is that different. TRP concepts apply here in Germany, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:24 PM
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Of course they would have. For example the whole beta bux concept relies on women not exclusively dating toxic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:09 PM
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If you're mad that the women who exclusively date men you deem toxic If only they actually exclusively dated men we deem toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:01 PM
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😅
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:12 PM
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She gives off Jodi Arias vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:05 PM
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Nobody cares. Many care but don't talk about it. Nobody cares if you care They do when someone they are interested in does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:02 PM
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"Axe-peshally" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 08:33 PM
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wow
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:22 PM
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You are literally a danger to women. You are exaggerating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:51 PM
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Is it some sort of escapism, I think it's the opposite. I see many things we associate with a progressive lifestyle as escapism. Dreaming of being married with children doesn't seem more escapist than dreaming of a happy life-long polygamous relationship to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:19 PM
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No it’s sexist by THE definition. THE definition that came from where? Fell from the tree? Was created by patriarchs? Or, maybe, became THE definition with decades of feminism at universities? Edgy bro! Lol, you think the reason for not caring about feminist ideology must be wanting to be edgy? That's funny. But no, I don't feel edgy for not believing that men are a privileged oppressor class that oppresses women with acts of sexism. I feel very non edgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:45 PM
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We don't care about stupid terms like "sexism" and the definitions and feminist framework behind it. We don't strive to be seen as the good ones in the fantasy- world of oppression feminists made up. So yeah, it's sexist by definition, you are right. It is sexist by their definition. Sexist in their framework of their ideology. Feminism defines it as sexist. So? Does that mean we should suddenly collectively lose our minds over it? Because feminism says so? Because feminism says"it's wrong, mkay…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:28 PM
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"Therefore, in order to generate new knowledge about MGTOW, I am not using a feminist anthropological perspective." Shut up and take my money! 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:51 AM
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😫
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 09:46 PM
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I have in the past. Not because of health but because I was interested in the meditative aspect of it after reading a book. Five days of not eating anything. A bit of diluted apple- juice because the brain needs carbs. Benefits: A feeling of freedom you can't describe. It's unreal. I'd like to but I really can't describe how it feels. A feeling of security. Feeling and knowing that you don't need food. The idea of starving is like a primal fear that you don't notice you had until during fasting,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:24 PM
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Little sisters for the win!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:01 PM
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I remember when my friends and I were watching "Reign of Fire" with our girlfriends. Our girlfriends were fawning over Matthew McConaughey. (Rightfully so btw). We guys: "Awesome! So you are finally admitting that muscular men are attractive?" Them: "Oh, it doesn't count because he doesn't look like he is working out in the gym. He just just looks fit, like from doing sports and a lot of activities." We: "Guys... we need to hit the gym a lot harder." Matthew McConaughey in Reign of Fire Unfortun…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:25 AM
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Women introduced it?? Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:00 PM
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Yup, it sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:56 PM
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I hate it, but it's true. Most effective approach and probably downright necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:54 PM
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As for staying attractive, I don't get the mentality of people letting themselves go when in a relationship. I don't get it either. I always felt much more motivated to hit the gym when I was in a relationship. Wanting to look good for your partner > Wanting to look good for an imaginary future partner
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:39 AM
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Man, I wish you had been around years ago. You wouldn't believe how the same things that get you an "yeah, you're right, of course, but everybody knows that, you don't need TRP to tell you that" today... got you an "that is so misogynistic and totally not true" back in the day. We really had debates over stuff like "do short guys really have a disadvantage on the dating market (because I don't think so)" and "is it really harder for men to find ONS than it is for women (because here is a study t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:10 AM
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It seems most men on here want to live and be treated remarkably by their partners without having to be remarkable. There is a reason why TRP doesn't say "be healthy and reasonably fit". TRP says"lift heavy". There's a reason why TRP doesn't talk about "having your finances in order" but encourages men to build a high-paying career. We know that you have to be remarkable to have the kind of relationship inexperienced guys wrongly assume was completely normal. You are right that many inexperience…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:21 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:17 AM
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That's just your opinion. Many men do care about n- count. They just don't talk about it irl like they do on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:04 PM
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I am not saying that they should. I am saying that they could make a case for it by bringing up the right to self-determination as understood by the UN. They wouldn't need to quote Hitler or fringe right- wing historians. They could just quote article I of the charter of the United Nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:53 PM
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Man, this is really interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:11 PM
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🍻
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:08 PM
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You want women to rate a guy withought posting his height?! Amateur!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:01 PM
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because it's always like 25 guys and 1 girl, who's there with her boyfriend Or her soon- to- be- boyfriend. 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:00 PM
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But men have to work at keeping the sexual connection alive That's what we keep telling them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:51 PM
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Exactly. That's why we don't encourage men to be the beta buxx.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:50 PM
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Is it a want of variation? Yes. Is there anything a girlfriend/ wife could do for it to be different, No. Men's sexuality is polygamous by nature. Not only can she not do anything about it. He can't do anything about it either. He could stop watching porn, yes. But he can't stop missing variation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:47 PM
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What would make men think marriage was a constant sex-fest? Beats me. But as long as there are men out there who think that an awesome sex- life is part of marriage, we'll make sure to wake them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:42 PM
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Yup. And I don't make fun of them. I always took them seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:25 PM
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But it's also possible that if a guy got one girlfriend he'd get validation for at least a little bit of FOMO ("if I could get ONE pretty girl, maybe there are others out there who would like me too..."). Yes, that's very possible. It's really important that young guys understand it and know beforehand that this will probably happen instead of endulging in "I am the guy who would never want another girlfriend after I met the one(tm)"- fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:23 PM
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Self- determination is also a big part of international law. The UN doesn't see wanting to secede as inherently wrong. From Wikipedia: "The right of a people to self-determination is a cardinal principle in modern international law (commonly regarded as a jus cogens rule), binding, as such, on the United Nations as authoritative interpretation of the Charter's norms. It states that peoples, based on respect for the principle of equal rights and fair equality of opportunity, have the right to fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:04 PM
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Her take is hilarious because she says: "I am against it not for the reason society is against it (reason a) but for my own reason (reason b)". When in reality reason b has always been the reason why society was against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:51 PM
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wow
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:36 PM
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Somebody please invent a time- machine just for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:18 PM
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Animals can’t consent? Like as if they can consent to being eaten! Some vegans do argue that advocating for animal rights and for example adopting stray animals to save them and so on while still eating animals is hypocritial. I think they do have a point there. Doesn't mean you should stop advocating for animal rights when you're not a vegetarian but it is kind of funny when you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:16 PM
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The history of Europe is a tale of constant change of borders, new countries appearing, old countries becoming history, unions and mergers of countries, etc. You are right. And it has been a constant source of conflict. You are right that people need to adapt to it, but you also need to accept that it's not something you can just hand- waive away.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:06 PM
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This. Men need to take their own ego seriously. Denying that you have an ego is not a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:49 PM
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Yay! Have a nice rest of the day! 🙋‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:43 PM
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Still an asshole. That's what I am saying: Just call him an asshole for what he's doing. You don't need to make up explanations for why he is doing it in order to call him an asshole. Just call him an asshole. 😃 This is why people need to vet for sexual compatibility imo. Yes, it's really important to vet for sexual compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:42 PM
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That's how gamer- gate happened. 😃 Feminists shot themselves in the foot when they chose to attack the gaming community. It was a grave mistake. The guys who just wanted to be left alone with their games they love. (Not saying that you are one of the guys who only play games. Just saying that the love for video games is real. And rightfully so!)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:33 PM
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Chicken and egg, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:28 PM
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Right, and actually that reminds me of how gross I think it is when women continually pressure their bf’s into marriage Awesome! I don't find it gross at all when they push for marriage. I guess the conversation has shown that both you and I aren't hypocrites. 🙂 You condemn both, I am kind of okay with both. (That said, I am more okay with pushing for marriage than with pushing for sex acts for obvious reasons. But I don't see the latter as inherently evil.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:22 PM
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Sure. It's important to understand that location plays an important role. Take everything you read with a grain of salt because it might be completely different where you are. When I started to use Tinder, I noticed that the women in the area, say,1 hour drive west of where I live are mostly overweight and entitled while women in the area 1 hour drive east (more rural) are much better looking , less overweight and less entitled, to the point where I thought I was being cat-fished at first. The d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:13 PM
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he becomes the bad guy when he repeatedly requests I have no problem with the fact that people say that he is a bad guy for insisting and requesting. I have an issue when people attribute intentions to his insisting that he doesn't have. His reason for repeatedly requesting blowjobs is "I love getting blowjobs and if she doesn't give me blowjobs, it means I will go without blowjobs for the rest of my life. No BJs for the rest of my life!" This is his reason for requesting blowjobs. His reason is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:53 PM
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But, for another example, if he decided he didn’t want to get engaged again since the last one didn’t work out Perfect example. Nobody in their right mind would blame her for thinking she got the short end of the stick. She has every right to be pissed. Nobody should tell her "how can you want an engagement when you know that he doesn't want to be engaged. Do you want to control him or something?! Do you get pleasure out of subjugating him?!" 😃 I’d just see it as an incompatibility, move on, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:24 PM
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An easy conclusion is that the man actually enjoys her subjugation, rather than the act itself. It's an easy conclusion, yes. It's also wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:05 PM
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it is a bad look. It it only looks bad when you believe that the made- up reason is the actual reason. The made up reason would be "he loves getting blowjobs because he knows that she hates giving them but does it for him anyway". When the actual reason is just "he loves getting blowjobs". The latter doesn't make him look bad. That's why people make up the former exanation. It's made- up and not true, but it makes him look bad. Mission accomplished.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:48 PM
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I can't wrap my head around the fact that this seems to be difficult for many women to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:40 PM
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My bf did things with his ex that he didn’t enjoy and doesn’t want to do again. Like for example? Are these things you really want you do with your bf? Like really really want to do? It doesn't count when it's something you can easily go without for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:32 PM
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No, that's just how a lot of people frame it with the intention of making us look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:26 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:56 PM
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It affects the relationship dynamics and her attraction to him. Someone who thinks they have settled treat the marriage and their partner very differently from someone who thinks they made a real catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:49 PM
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that their wives think someone else is hotter? Nope. It's a problem when she is used to being with guys who are hotter. It's a problem when she thinks she could have got someone else who is hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:02 PM
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It would be settling if you desperately tried to succeed in a career in biology/research, eventually found out after years in the job that you just aren't cut out to be a scientist and then decided to settle for a simple menial job. You would have failed. You would maybe feel relieved. But you would have settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:30 PM
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Nobody cares? Nobody cares about the science behind it and what biologists or zoologists would say is an alpha wolf. People do of course care about the term alpha as we understand it in PUA and TRP. It's a nice term and mental image but nobody cares what an actual alpha wolf (animal) in the wild does and what science has to say about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:05 PM
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Brief history lesson: the term "Alpha male" did NOT come from studying wolves. Nobody cares. 😃 It's just a nice mental image.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:44 PM
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Having a mediocre partner is much better than being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:01 PM
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Man, that sucks. 😕
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:56 PM
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If it was about money they’d go for the flashy rich one And she wouldn't get him. She knows he wouldn't fall for her, so she doesn't even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:49 PM
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Why ignore that part? Because fuck that part! If a woman sees me as a "shabby house with good bones", I am out. Even the best argument why shabby houses are better than mansions couldn't change that. Even the best argument would only add insult to injury. I have too much self- respect to let somebody gaslight me into thinking I should be okay with being seen as a shabby house with good bones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:46 PM
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Attractive. I want her to appreciate other things I bring to the table, of course. Not take them for granted. But they shouldn't be the main reason she chose me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:31 PM
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OK, maybe that was a bit clumsy It wasn't clumsy at all! You described perfectly what we are trying to explain all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:05 PM
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The guy you describe isn't necessarily a beta bucks. Having a career and making good life choices doesn't make you a beta bucks. Being a pushover, lacking certain attractive traits and marrying a woman who isn't really into you makes you a pushover.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:49 PM
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Guess which one I choose ? Guess how men would like to be seen and described by their wives. "Stunning mansion" or "slightly shabby house with good bones"? And guess in which one of those two cases the wife treats her husband better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:42 PM
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Uh oh. This might inspire another n- count thread. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:27 PM
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are just fine living alone with their cats and the occasional girls night out. Anecdotally, they aren't fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:19 AM
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That's not a commandment, that's a hall pass. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 09:55 PM
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Not larping. 🎸🎶 I am pretty much the same in real-life. Just less whiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:18 PM
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I could just copy paste every quote from Chronicles of Riddick here. "I bow to no man."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 08:55 AM
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Going to a firework competition together. 🎆
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:42 AM
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My problem is that Putin unilaterally decided to expand the conflict beyond the conflict in the eastern areas. How would you decide that in a way that is not unilateral? 😃 But Putin couldn’t help himself - he took the war into the Western (and Western-identifying) Ukraine. And is that so surprising? I mean what would you do? There is a conflict that has been going on for 8 years and you want it to end. What are the options? Wait for another 8 years and hope the fighting will eventually stop or g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:42 AM
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I can't. Just like you can't just claim "he wants to restore the Russian empire to its former glory". How could you know that that is what he wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:12 AM
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Putin is wrong, and should be opposed. I have no problem with someone saying that. Hell, I am not a Putin fan or anything. But I want to know the real reasons behind his actions. And "he wants to play Tsar, hurr durr" doesn't convince me. At all. I mean, I don't say "Putin is the good guy" because I know that I am not informed enough to make a judgment on that. And it scares me how quick others are to say "He is THE bad guy". Well, maybe it's because, for historical reasons, I know a thing or tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:08 AM
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No, that just means you have a smaller lap. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:56 AM
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This is not terribly controversial opinion among those that study Putin in Russia. You're right that it doesn't seem controversial when you read newspapers and watch the news. They all agree that Putin justs wants power. However when you read opinion pieces and discussions and look arounf it doesn't seem so obvious anymore. Russia does have legitimate interests. Like any other country. And I am not even remotely saying that Putin is the good guy or anything. Really, I am not. I am just against a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:53 AM
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And you know that how? Seriously, why do people think it's okay to just accept stuff like that as the most likely motivation behind political/military actions in a multi-layered conflict like the one we have in the Ukraine?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:25 AM
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That's hard to say right now. We will have to wait and see. If the invasion ends the conflict in the Ukraine that has been going on for 8 years now and cost more than 13.000 lifes by now and ends it without a lot of casualties, then yes, one could say the invasion was justified. You can of course disagree and say "no no, I would have preferred the conflict and killing in the Ukraine to go on forever". That's a valid opinion, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:20 AM
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We can't accept him playing fucking tsar What the fuck does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:07 AM
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What they know is good enough. No, it's not. Is that important? Of course it's important. Wtf?!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:56 AM
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Feels completely fake to me. I find it kind of scary that most people seem to know next to nothing about the conflict but unite in righteous anger against the appointed Bad Guy(tm) they also don't know much about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:34 AM
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Of course men should be judged on their history. We encourage women to do so instead of judging the guy on tingles only.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:25 AM
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And he looks ill somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:55 PM
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Ask yourself, how would you rather look like. The second one is the obvious answer Not for me because that's just not who I am. Yeah, I aim to be masculine, but I don't want to be hyper- masculine. Looking like Jason Statham would feel like cosplaying to me. Not that I have much choice anymore with my receding hairline. Finally took the plunge a few days ago and shaved my head for the first time in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:44 PM
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Text game is one of my strengths, so I’d never follow the rule. Same here. And I find it fun and I love it. I know that texting less can be good advice for many guys and it did work well for me when I tried it out a few times. But since I have always liked it and it didn't have a negative impact, I didn't see a reason to reduce texting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:19 PM
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More like we need their gas and that's about it. Buying Russian gas instead of US fracking gas seems to make us Russia's ally, lol. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 03:46 PM
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Lol, I wish. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 03:33 PM
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What tepid response? 😃 Germany cancelled the Nord Stream 2 pipeline to sanction Russia. And now we have news like "Calculations show that Germany can make it without Russian gas... if the coming winter isn't cold." 😃 Isn't that what you want to hear in the first world country with the third highest exports in the world? That we could make it without blackouts and freezing to death in winter... maybe. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 03:32 PM
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Wow, these are some nice Stacys. I prefer a much nerdier type and a much lower league, but damn... well chosen examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:06 AM
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Well that was an awesome read! 🙂 But recently I was at a party and a guy there did sing poorly but enthusiastically and was a hit. He knew all the lyrics to all these different genres of songs, it was crazy. And he got everybody singing and it made the party fun. I guess they were like ok he sucks at singing so if I join in there's no way I can embarrass myself lol. And yea he was ugly. And yea he hooked up w a 7. Hehe, I can picture that. Yeah, well, first I want to say: The red pill community …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:36 AM
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First thought that came to my mind: If you are not already singing by the time you find TRP, it's probably too late and it means that you are just not made to be a singer. If you were a singer you would have been singing for years before finding TRP because you couldn't help it, you had to sing. Everybody can go to the gym and lift heavy at any point in their life. But singing is not something you just decide to do one day because it helps with dating. It's also very situational. You can't just …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 03:36 AM
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Epic parenting fails? That's often one of the reasons, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:52 PM
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The glasses and shy smile in some of the pictures. PPD women have mentioned this, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:36 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:41 PM
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Really knowing each other is great. The feeling of having "arrived" and knowing that you don't have to look for something anymore is great. Being single is like traveling. Being in a serious LTR is like being at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:49 PM
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🙂❤
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:25 PM
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😃 No, I don't. Women are not oppressed in the US. Feminism says that women in the US are oppressed. And feminism says that yes, the three blond Stacys you linked are oppressed. If you disagree and think they are not oppressed, you disagree with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:24 PM
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I'll allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 08:44 AM
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According to feminism these women are oppressed. leaving out the nuances of class, race and power. I am well aware of intersectionality. That doesn't change the fact that according to the feminist framework these women you linked are oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 08:40 AM
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Lift heavy!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 08:34 AM
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This will never happen. Of course it will never happen! That's the whole point. 😃 The ideology is designed to keep people in a constant mindset of "I am oppressed, I must fight against oppression". Exactly what ideologies of hate want. I just want domestic violence shelters funded and maternal leave You don't need a marxist ideology for that. 😃 Why would you need a marxist ideology for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 08:32 AM
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These are all issues that need to be addressed. Do these issues mean that men are oppressors and women are oppressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 08:18 AM
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That's the way many feminists are using the word "oppressed" Yes, and they do it because feminism, the ideology, defines women as the oppressed class. It has no metric. We could solve 135 womens' issues but in the eyes of feminism, women would still be oppressed. We could solve every single womens' issue and according to feminism, women would still be the oppressed class. Simply because women are the oppressed class by definition in feminist ideology. Not by metric. Not by evaluation. That's bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 07:58 AM
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I understand that feminism says that all men are oppressors and all women are oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 07:39 AM
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No no no no. I know what intersectionality is and how it works. I know that it looks at axes of oppression that intersect and create new forms of discrimination. And I know that for example black men are defined as the oppressed class in other marxist ideologies like Critical Race Theory. But if we stay in the feminist framework of intergender relations, you can't tell me that a black man doesn't have male privilege. A black man does have male privilege. Why? Because he is part of the privileged…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 07:35 AM
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Are women oppressed in the west? I don't mean "have disadvantages" or "serious gendered issues". Are they oppressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 07:28 AM
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Men being in the more privileged class Why don't you want to say it? Men being in the privileged oppressor class. Don't leave that out! All men are in the privileged oppressor class. And thus, oppressors. Feminism makes all men oppressors by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 07:26 AM
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No it hasn’t. Yes it has. If you just quickly peruse the top 10 feminist publications You seem to be well versed in feminism. Please tell me, are men the privileged oppressor class according to feminism or are they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 07:06 AM
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There are a lot of people who understand that without identifying as a feminists in today's society. Exactly. I just wish people understood what feminism means exactly. It's not "advocating for women's rights". It's an ideology with a marxist framework.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:23 AM
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Women having the choice to live whatever life they want, whether it is a traditional lifestyle or progressive lifestyle? You can say and want that without being a feminist. Or telling a poor ugly dude he's "privileged" somehow just because he is a man. If you (general you) don't think this is correct then you are not a feminist. The guy is privileged by definition in the feminist framework.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:17 AM
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Dude... just let it rest. People were talking about WWIII ffs. And I don't remember saying: I am an expert, I bet 1000€, please hold me accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:14 AM
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Yes it has. An ideology that defines men as oppressors and women as the oppressed for god knows how long has poisoned the well. So: yah
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:11 AM
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I am not claiming anything. 😃 Jesus Christ. People have no idea about the conflict, but get riled up by sensationalist headlines.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:03 AM
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Ukraine has tons of ethnic Russians I wish people knew at least that. Rule of thumb: If you didn't know, don't talk about the Russian-Ukrainian conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:00 AM
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Feminism has poisoned the well for any and every discussion about gender relations for many decades now. It's the one and only reason we don't have chill discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:59 AM
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I looked through my history and this is what I said: "There might be some fighting. Situations. Explosions here and there. But nothing that you would consider war."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:49 AM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:19 AM
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riding the coin operated horse outside the mall 😂 I think “stamina” is mostly just men being pressured to train themselves to think about something other than the sexy things they’re doing with a hookup/girlfriend/spouse until the “time is right.” That's why I always say to inexperienced guys who worry about being bad in bad here on PPD hat they shouldn't worry about the performance- aspect of sex and focus on actually having fun with their future girlfriend together. If the guy is thinking only…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:17 AM
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"Something really serious". 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:03 AM
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Sometimes he lasts 3-4 minutes, sometimes he lasts 40 minutes. Thank god, finally somebody says it! 🙂 I thought I was taking crazy pills because people always say "stamina comes with experience" or something similar. When in reality it's like rolling a dice every time. 😃 And yeah, I agree, that's definitely a perk of LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:59 AM
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🙋‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:37 AM
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I said: war is not going to happen. And you will see, war will not happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:36 AM
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😂😂😂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:29 AM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:05 AM
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🤮🤮🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:09 AM
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A bouncer I know said that he and the crew always let women duke it out before throwing them out of the club. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 12:47 AM
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Ouch...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 12:10 AM
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It's because of a Joe Rogan podcast that went viral where a woman broke up with her man over an MMA fight. He actually won the fight but looked girly during one attack where he was pummeled.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 12:04 AM
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He asks for you to cuddle him Never ask for cuddle. Just cuddle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:50 PM
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Good question, I honestly don't know. 😃 It might seem obvious to us guys because we are guys but not obvious to women because they are not guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:49 PM
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The dream!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:42 PM
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and his boss ended up swiping on him. 😂😂😂 In theory, it should work to get your foot-in-the-door. Yeah, that's what I meant. The thread was about "no matches", not "why do women leave me". However, long-term the more discrepancy there is between your selected profile and you I get that, yeah. Ultimately there are not many women who'd be compatible with him. I just find it interesting that he would be kind of "lying by omission" with different profiles. Not telling the full story but also not rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:49 PM
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Interesting because that doesn't sound like insecurity to me at all. Making fair assessments lime this is a sign of people who are not insecure in my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:27 PM
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That’s why companies will usually release multiple options, seemingly competing with themselves on a flagship product. This is to keep the initial product’s niche appeal while using the alternatives to capture other segments. That means his best bet would be to have two different profiles/accounts? This could actually work I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:20 PM
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Doesn't look like he is half-assing anything though. 😃 Jesus Christ, those abs. Not half-assing the glasses either. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:36 PM
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He is intimidating to the types of women he would actually want to date, not intimidating enough for the type of women he's probably actively avoiding anyway. Yeah. Man, it's a shame. I think the nerd/athlete combination is really great. And stands out. Not your run of the mill guy. Well, seems like it's a case of "sounds good on paper, doesn't really work irl".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:54 PM
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Well put. I don't even know what to say to her anymore...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:55 AM
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Marxist OP literally making a case for pedophilia
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:20 AM
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Wouldn't it make more sense just assume they're not attracted enough No! 😃 Men can be wildly attracted and still not approach her, or, if they know her, make a move. Shy guys for example. Or men who see her at a bar and think "she seems to want to have fun with her fans... better not approach and annoy her."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:16 AM
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WOW! Thanks to OP, I just found out that you can use marxist ideology to fight against the stigma of pedophilia because the stigma against pedophilia is "deeply right- wing". To quote OP: "First, your misguided, vicious hatred of pedophiles is based on the unscientific cultural myth that adult/child sexual interactions are intrinsically harmful. " Lol. So when you say "adults fucking little children is never good", he counters with "your belief is based on an unscientific myth." Read the linked …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:08 AM
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Yeah, why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:24 AM
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Well if you want to use "attract" literally: She is attracting the right kind of man, too, but they "resist" the attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:23 AM
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you lucky bruh... Yeah, but as you can probably guess: gainz don't come easy to me. It's always one or the other, damnit. So I wanted to use my love for sweets to practice self control. These traits like being impulsive, spontaneous, hedonistic, risk averse are hard to change but I want to try. Ah, I see! I never even tried it! I always try to find a method to reach a goal where I don't need discipline. (Not that it worked all the time, but I try). So I wonder if grit can be trained. By all mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:21 AM
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I am glad that I had Russian and Romanian friends in school. They quickly convinced me that socialism/communism is not as great as it looks on paper. But OP is a marxist-leninist. He would simply tell you that the Soviet Union was "Stalinist" not Marxist-Leninist and thus doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:05 AM
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He is a likeable guy!!! I always saw him as median's friend. 😅 ("I'm average too" had me dying) 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:01 AM
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And like why do you think girls often take their boyfriends hoodie. Because it smells like them. OP: "There has never been a scientific study with statistical significance that actually proved that they do. We need a world-wide marxist revolution to overthrow capitalism so that everybody has their own oversized hoodie."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 04:48 AM
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Interesting stuff! I always chose a completely different path. I like it simple. "Es ist leichter einer Sache ganz zu entsagen, als in ihr Maß zu halten." - Nietzsche 😃 I'll try to translate it: "It's easier to forsake a desire completely than to be moderate in it." For me that meant no sweets while cutting or losing weight after slacking off at all. No donuts. No chocolate. No sweets in my life not even one, no temptation. Out of sight, out of mind, out of desire. Good thing is that I never nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 04:40 AM
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It's obvious that this woman attracts most men Yeah, but keep in mind that while she is attractive to a lot or even most men, only a fraction of those men will actually make a move and hit on her. (irl) When only the wrong kind of men approach her, for example because the nice guys don't dare to approach, she might get the impression that she somehow attracts the wrong kind of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:29 AM
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Challenge... not accepted. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:44 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:39 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:33 AM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:29 AM
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I regard biodeterminism in all its forms—including the "genetic predisposition" hypothesis—to be essentially pseudoscientific and mere right-wing ideology whose function is to justify and preserve social inequality. Anybody who wants to find out how dangerous this marxist thinking is should check out "Lysenkoism" on Wikipedia. Short version: The Soviet Union declared genetics in agriculture as Nazi and capitalist propaganda and pseudoscience. Genetics? No such thing! We can alter crops just by p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:36 PM
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Let me preface this post with some background. I am a Marxist psychology/sociology double-major Thanks for the heads- up! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:15 PM
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Finally! Median for the win! Fuck the arithmetic mean!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:55 PM
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FWIW, I don't do casual sex. I have always been a relationship- minded guy. but hasn't been in a relationship because she's studying for med school She isn't able to have an LTR just because she is studying? Red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:40 PM
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Even if she has sex only with 2 different guys in a whole year by 27 she'll have an n-count of 20 which is apparently too high for men. Not a single longterm relationship from 17-27? Yeah, that's a red flag when you are looking for a relationship-minded woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:43 PM
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I am asking because what you're doing is a bit like day- dreaming. I did that a lot when I was young and unsuccessful with women. Lots of guys who are not successful with women do. Don't pat yourself on the back for not cheating as long as you are not even in a position to cheat. If you have the chance to cheat one day and you don't, pat yourself on the back. Not before. You seem to be aware of this judging from your reply, so let me just say best of luck for your future endeavours. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:40 PM
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Do you really not understand why some men cheat or are you just trying to feel good by saying and thinking "I would never cheat! I would be such a great boyfriend and husband!"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:14 PM
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Btw you're German? Yes, I am. Where do you hail from, neighbour? 🙂 Cheers 🙋‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:07 PM
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Well you say you do preach against using violence. When you do that you could give a kid the impression that he shouldn't use violence against bullying if you aren't specific enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:03 PM
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Too bad that evolution didn't take guns into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:43 PM
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I do preach against using violence usually, but if there is one thing i hate its a bully. Great. 👍 Just make sure you're not giving out confusing mixed messages when you preach against violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:41 PM
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It could also just be being an asshole Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:39 PM
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I think that this is an urban myth. I don't think that insecurity is the reason behind bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:33 PM
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The "alpha" is the abuser and the women enablers or cheerleaders. I haven't seen this happen a lot. The issue with standing up to bullying in the context of red pill, blue pill and women I find important is the "turn the other cheek, violence is not a solution, solve conflicts with words not violence"- mentality that is often endorsed by women. Especially mothers. School policies, too. It really held me back. Understanding that violence against bullies is fucking awesome and a great solution was…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:51 PM
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But that doesn't change anything. The revenge fantasy came true. You said "let the revenge fantasy die". But why let it die when it proves to be real?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:58 PM
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Why can't people comprehend that being alone is better than What does that have to do with anything? 😥
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:37 PM
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Would rather have been alone. But you aren't alone. 🙂🥳🍻
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:18 PM
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Full disclosure: I was really looking forward to seeing the revenge fantasy fulfilled and seeing women end up unhappy and alone. Turns out that when the time finally came, they were so unhappy being alone that I couldn't really enjoy it. Yeah, I wanted them to be unhappy, but they were and are so miserable that I couldn't help but sympathise with them. That was a real bummer. 😥
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:50 PM
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Women aren’t willing to be alone out of some misplaced sense of revenge Literally nobody is saying that. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:46 PM
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I suppose if you want a woman to suffer, try and be with somebody who doesn't reslly want you that much... That doesn't work as revenge fantasy. We couldn't enjoy her suffering because we would sympathise with the poor guy. That revenge fantasy is not fun at all! So, yeah, we are perfectly happy with the revenge fantasy you brought up. 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:44 PM
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The revenge fantasy is: "They will end up alone." That means when they actually end up alone, the revenge fantasy came true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:32 PM
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They end up alone. --> Revenge fantasy fulfilled. Doesn't matter that they pretend to be happy. And doesn't matter that they might be even less happy with a BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:22 PM
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let the revenge fantasy die But what you say is the revenge fantasy. 😃 Women ending up alone because they couldn't and can't manage expectations. Women settling for a BB is not the revenge fantasy. So it doesn't matter if it doesn't happen according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:09 PM
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Exactly. I love courting but it feels kind of pointless or empty when she had a hoe phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:12 AM
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I'll have to agree. His timing was really stupid. I mean, most people have concerns that their partner will slack off after the courtship phase. It's usually a slow process and often not intentional. But doing it right after deciding to be exclusive is like intentionally saying "now that we're together, I don't have to invest as much." I hated it when it happened to me. "ha, now I have girlfriend privilege. From now on I will expect more and give less". So, I don't really blame her, entitlement …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:46 AM
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Basically, they are kinda preemptively doing post-nut clarity for the guy 😂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:16 AM
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Real or fake couple? I can't bring myself to care. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:10 AM
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We are doing everything we can for her And Annabelle knows it! She's a lucky cow to have you two.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:01 AM
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I have never been shamed for being single but I always noticed a difference in how (some) people treated me when I was in a relationship. It's hard to explain but I always felt more respected by people when I was in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:30 AM
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For real.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:06 AM
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Tbh, the lack of single women was a problem even in my 20s. And we were socially active.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:56 AM
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There might be a "your mum"- joke in there. Not sure though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:53 AM
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Bro, I am not judging you at all. And I am a judgmental bastard most of the time. I just know that it isn't for me personally. I also don't play on hardcore mode like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:28 AM
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I always said that the only real frustrating thing is that they are rare not that they are hard. Exactly. And I didn't even realise it until one day I thought "man, I lift, dress well and know how to flirt with women. Why do I find dating so hard?". And then I realised the only thing that was holding me back was that I rarely met single women. so my goal is to either steal her or be the next in line. Yeah, I can't do that. That's just not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:02 AM
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😥
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:54 AM
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😃
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:52 AM
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you’ll see plenty of single women you can hit on That's exactly what I don't see. 😃 Spotting an attractive single woman irl is like finding a Sasquatch. Sure, depends on where you live. But really, if I could only change one thing, it wouldn't be hypergamy or womens' standards or anything. It would be "more attractive single women than we have now".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:51 AM
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I disagree 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:45 AM
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I love being a man and I love women. I just wish we had a slightly more level playing field. Doesn't have to be completely level. Just more level than it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:39 AM
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Nice way to use trp lingo against us 😃👍 Well played.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:19 AM
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Seems like. I took a five year or so break and I am just now getting a feel for the place. Doesn't look good for the red pill. I respect black pillers a lot but the black pill is completely incompatible with TRP. If you are a black piller you shouldn't be a part of the red pill community. If you don't believe you can turn things around for yourself it doesn't make sense to be part of the red pill community.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:06 AM
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That's true. But I wasn't saying that it would make them value and respect you. I just said that they won't immediately see you as the fake nice guy you read a lot about online. Which is what OP thought might happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:36 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:20 PM
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but I have done research and thinking on immigration I can see that. You have a more nuanced view than many of the people here who grew up with mass immigration and an overburdening welfare system, but somehow don't think about it at all or just accept everything they are being told. It's funny because: The USA have always been a crystal ball for us here in Germany. Whatever trends we saw happening in the USA, we knew that we would have to deal with, too, sooner or later. Outsourcing, obesity cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:12 PM
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You need to... Reading that list and seeing that we do the complete opposite gave me anciety. Trigger warning next time, please. 😃 Yeah, you know your stuff. Where are you located, bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:47 PM
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Yes it does. No, it doesn't. Just because we don't like it nowadays it doesn't mean people didn't in the past Just because you don't like the fact that fat women were never seen as more attractive doesn't make it not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:33 PM
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Oh yeah, that's a point that is often overlooked. 👍 It's really dire, man. If it was at least a win-lose situation. But it seems more like a lose-lose situation seeing how unhappy many immigrants are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:28 PM
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It is though It is not. Rubens, the guy who is famous for painting fat women openly said how disgusted he was by fat women and called them "a waste of flesh". You need to read into the topic. It is not simple. People are attracted to wealth People might be attracted to wealth but that doesn't make a wealthy woman attractive. It might make her an attractive choice. But it doesn't make her an attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:05 PM
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Exactly! those guys can't have kids which means it is going to cause massive retirement bulges that can't be paid for. And that means you'd need to import another generation of young men to pay for them. It's just not a sustainable model.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:01 PM
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Most paintings were made with the intent of No, it's not that easy. signaled wealth Signaled wealth =/= attractive. Attractive choice for a marriage to consolidate power, yeah. But not attractive. Read about it outside of feminist interpretation and you will find out that fat was not seen as beautiful in medieval times.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:55 PM
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In medieval times fat women were considered more attractive Not really, no. I know people often say that but when you read into it, it turns out that just because you see a lot of fat women in medieval paintings, it doesn't mean that fat women were seen as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:46 PM
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Not in my experience. But I know that it depends on location and social circle, of course. Learning to set boundaries is always required, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:25 PM
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I don't feel competent enough to answer that question, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:43 PM
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How do we approach our welfare state in a country of increasing singledom and childlessness? cries in German There is no feasible way to approach it. We are doomed. Childlessness + welfare state + overwhelmingly male mass immigration = the end
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:47 PM
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I wouldn't worry about it. It doesn't seem to spill over into real-life. If you are genuinely nice most people irl will appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:25 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:56 PM
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Yeah, and it sucks. Ever since the incel forums were deleted and the rise of Black Pill, the landscape has changed completely. A lot more negativity. Back then the anger phase was seen as something you need to overcome and still is, but there are so many guys who instead glorify the anger phase now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:52 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:48 PM
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Good points, but Why not pick up martial arts? Lift heavy! Martial arts later!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:01 AM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:14 AM
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its your job to not be the weak guy who gets walked over, to the best of your ability. Yup. That's TRP. Didn't understand any of the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:13 AM
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Sending all the positive energy I have
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:42 AM
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Can men give you answers, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:16 AM
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Can't say that I disagree. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:13 AM
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That's just completely normal non-toxic femininity. EDIT: While women seem to be wrong more often with "I don't really want xy" like "a whole cheeseburger", men are often wrong with "I don't really need xy". So the completely normal non-toxic masculinity equivalent would be saying "You don't need to pack an Umbrella/rain-proof jacket/ a toolbox/xy...for me". The woman brings it anyway and it saves the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:00 AM
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My alpha buddy Chad did that. But I think he was doing it to actively select for women who were okay with only casual sex. It was hilarious to see the same guy who just told us how fascinating he found the documentary about [insert anything historical here] and talked with us about it for 30 minutes, transform into a neanderthal at the press of a button.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:43 AM
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I figured you knew men would say this but still commented. It's more fun to have female/male answers side by side.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:30 AM
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There doesn't need to be a "conflict". Oh, but there IS a conflict. Which will be solved without war by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:27 AM
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super hot, hands down
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:24 AM
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Erm, no. There are actual concerns and history behind the whole conflict. Most of the headlines and articles are stupid and make it sound like a dick- measuring contest. But it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:10 AM
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Going to the gym was much more fun after I stopped doing that. Completely unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:45 AM
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😂 His comments are hilarious. A girl says "you're 5ish" and he replies with: "We’ll I looked at your picture your cute, is a 5 bad? I’m terms of attractiveness" Trying to flirt right out of the gate as soon as a cute girl rates him... 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:27 AM
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only selfies muslim weird bio. The last picture looks like he is hiding behind his cell phone and observing you like a predator. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:00 AM
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Wow. Saved for reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:47 PM
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As a pleb I have always seen academic research as magical and imaged the scientific community as, erm, awesome people who inspire each other. But then I heard and read a lot about how much infighting there was. And reputation attacks. I honestly felt like I felt when I was a kid and realised Santa Claus isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:41 PM
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Netflix vibes intensify I am hooked! Be well soon, Annabelle!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:35 PM
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Thank you, bro. : ) Stuff like that is kind of, erm, my thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:31 PM
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This truly and honestly made my day, dear. 😊 I am kind of lost for words. So happy to know that there are cute couples like you two out there. Have a nice day 🙋‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:19 AM
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And is having a hard time thinking of her physically as anything other than a relative, Omg, I have heard black men in Germany say exactly the same in a discussion video. It was a two part video. First part was black women talking about the struggle with dating as a black woman in Germany. The second part was black men explaining why, while they "support black queens" (verbatim), they don't date black women. And two of them (I think) actually say that out loud. "Can't do it, a black woman remind…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:00 AM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:48 AM
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but I know you guys don’t watch it 😂😂😂 Guilty as charged.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:47 AM
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Sounds like he doesn't constantly stutter and only sometimes has a moment where he stutters? If that's the case, I'd suggest: You wait for a moment where it's really awkward/noticeable and he stops talking and looks embarrassed. Wait a moment. Then smile at him and kiss him on the cheek. --> happily ever after 🙂 Not only does it do everything you describe above (want him to know I don't care, want him to know that I like him as he is, want him to know he doesn't have to mask with me, don't want …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:24 AM
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Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:55 AM
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Asking because I just talked about it with poppy. Do you think you can accurately say "this guy lifts weights" or "this guy doesn't lift but does has a great physique from actual activities"? No front or anything. It's just that the topic comes up a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:34 AM
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The point is that men are not saying "We only like As and Bs. Everything above is just gross." And at the same time whenever they see Cs think they are As.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:38 AM
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have to admit that a girl liking muscles is totally fine It is totally fine. Nobody's saying it wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:35 AM
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Yeah, seriously!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:31 AM
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Conforming to the expectations of a non-American/non-Middle-European cultural background would be my first guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:25 AM
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is clearly an argument based on insecurity Not as clearly as you might think. You could argue that it is based on insecurity. But you make it sound like it's based on insecurity per definitionem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 11:06 PM
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That's the hilarious thing. When feminists use "you're just insecure" as a shaming tactic, they are enforcing so-called toxic masculinity. The very thing they claim to fight against.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 10:40 PM
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Good points. But it's definitely not a new insult. "You're just insecure" is a shaming tactic that is decades old. It is just now starting to lose some of its traction as more and more men are becoming immune to shaming tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 10:37 PM
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I am not in the US and I am not for abandoning welfare. I was just predicting the next big idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 08:42 PM
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Just like how men who plan a anniversary just the way she likes shouldn’t make it obvious he did it mainly for her I can say from experience that this is not always a good idea. With stuff like anniversaries, yeah. But if you don't show that you are doing some things just for her, there might come a time when she says something like: "You don't invest into our relationship." And you are like: "Wtf?! I did x and y and a and b." "Yeah, but that was stuff you wanted to do anyway and ypu enjoyed it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 08:12 PM
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What person in America wants to pay taxes for the enforcement and imprisonment of... ...[insert anything here]
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:59 PM
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What's your next big idea drug testing welfare recipients? More like "let's get rid of the welfare system. No drug testing needed".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 06:38 PM
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So would you say fraud in general should be legal because people who fell for fraudulent stuff only have themselves to blame? If you think fraud should be legal, your comment makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 06:27 PM
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I told the full story in another comment. (Remember it's in Germany. Paternity laws are different here. I am on my phone, I hope the link works: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/svefti/comment/hxgkftq/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:55 PM
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can learn just as much Strongly disagree with "just as much". Yes, it is a learning experience but completely different than, for example, an fwb situation ending with a heartbreak. Even compared to a pump and dump situation. Getting rejected doesn't give you experience with flirting, making out and spending time together as more than friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:21 PM
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Circumcision isn't common here in Germany. But one of my friends was circumcised because of Phimosis and they botched the procedure. I mean, I know (off the top off my head) only two guys who were circumcised and one of them had a botched procedure. Fuck this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:26 PM
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I know of one case in my circle of friends. I don't know how often it happens but I do know that it needs to be addressed seeing how much damage it did to everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:15 PM
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If you want the full story: My friend had an ONS with her. Never heard from her again. When she noticed that she was pregnant from the ONS, she got into a relationship with some other guy. And made it seem as if he was the father. So that guy raised the girl for six years thinking he was the father. They also eventually had a child together so he was raising two kids. Then she cheated on him with another guy. When he found out he thought: "She is a cheater. Who knows how often she has cheated on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:04 PM
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I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:27 PM
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Yup. The point I really wanted to make is that it's ridiculous how women call men who want to do a paternity test insecure. (Or variations of insecure). What I wanted to say is that a man who insists on doing a paternity test is actually the opposite. He is confident and strong. Female shaming tactics and entitlement are on full display whenever we talk about this topic. We need to point this out whenever it happens. Men are becoming more and more aware of and immune to shaming tactics and that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:25 PM
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Dafuq?! Didn't know...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:22 PM
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If it's a choice between the not-father and taxpayers, the ethically correct pick is "taxpayers".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:20 PM
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Yeah, I have heard some horror stories that wouldn't be possible here. Still, it's not a paradise here when it comes to stuff like that . I have seen some fucked up stuff. Thanks for saying Deutschland btw, you man of culture. 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:15 PM
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This mindset is too optimistic and divorced from reality. Sounds like me, yeah. 😂 But man, you know that laws and the whole system will never ever favor men. The only thing we can do is raise awareness and help individual men to not make stupid choices. And that is what we are doing. We can't make marriage better. But we can help men make better choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:12 PM
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I am sure that mandatory tests would be a good thing for many guys. However, I think men shouldn't be so insecure that they won't even dare to insist on doing a paternity test. We shouldn't incentivise men being pushovers who aren't able to draw healthy boundaries. So, while I think mandatory testing has its pros, we should instead put more emphasis on encouraging men to be self- confident and strong. Testing shouldn't be made mandatory but easy to access. (In countries where that isn't already …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:02 PM
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If you have ever played X-Com you know how many 80% shots you can miss. 😃 20/100 is a lot. Really.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:45 PM
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Ah, I see. I don't know how exactly it works in the US. Here in Germany you have ways. One of my friends got message that he was the father of a six year old child out of the blue one day. He has been paying child support ever since. Only worked because the mother decided to name the actual father (my friend) after the paternity test for the other guy turned out negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:42 PM
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After all, close family members are the most likely to groom and abuse children. 🤔 I mean, yeah, you could make a case for mandated/regular testing to fight child abuse. I admit, it sounds ridiculous but it is less ridiculous when you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:36 PM
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Thanks for explaining! 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:29 PM
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Then what did you want to say with "How bout actual father is made responsible for his offspring"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:29 PM
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How bout actual father is made responsible for his offspring. They are. All the mother has to do is be honest and name the biological dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:18 PM
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But that's a low bar. True. But that's the bar you set with the argument above. 😃 I don't know what would make for a fair system. I don't blame you. It's a complex problem. Mandatory paternity tests would be the best solution in my opinion. Would be a good use of tax dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:06 PM
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But they won't starve.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:55 PM
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Then the next minute she accuses you of cheating and wants proof of it because you started consistently coming home later than usual. I wouldn't hold it against her. It's harder to proof than just doing a paternity test, but I wouldn't be angry at her for worrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:53 PM
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And I think step-parents also pay child support depending on the legal relationships he had with the child Google says: "A stepparent will generally not be required to pay child support for a spouse's children from a prior relationship." Don't know if it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:38 PM
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Foster system it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:29 PM
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Point is: "numbers will be much higher there" doesn't seem to be true. You could argue that it's still low. (It isn't) But it's not lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:27 PM
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Figures from the days divorce was shunned and motherhood was deemed the natural destiny of women Just googled it and it seems that 20% of the paternity tests in Germany show that the mother misidentified the father. And divorce isn't exactly shunned here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:06 PM
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I am okay with that, too. "Best interest of the child" can be, like you say, a terrible incentive to do stupid stuff without worrying too much about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:25 PM
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True. But still better than letting the poor sap pay alone for no reason. He is completely innocent. Don't know why he should have more responsibility for the child than any other tax payer out there. Making him pay is the same as choosing a random tax payer and making him/her alone pay for the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:18 PM
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The problem is that this just shifts the financial obligation to the tax payer To all and divided among the tax payers who aren't the kid's fathers and mothers instead of just one guy who isn't the father. I'm okay with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:05 PM
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But I don't feel threatened. 😃 Many men don't. Has nothing to do with trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:52 AM
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Fear that she might cheat on you is only one of the reasons men might hate meeting guys who have fucked her before him. Most of the time it's jealousy. Not fear of cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:29 AM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:26 AM
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I’d say if you have always primarily been friends with someone but maybe hooked up once or twice, regretted it or laughed about it and went back to just being strictly platonic friends Yup, there is a big difference between that and fwbs in my opinion. I would see it as a real friendship. Fwb not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:20 AM
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Good points. 👍 say that it's pretty reasonable to be insecure about it I am not insecure at all. I am just jealous as fuck. 😃 You could politely ask to have her not really address their previous relationship, That never worked for me. I always made it pretty clear that I don't want to hear about ex-bfs or ex-fwbs. The result was that my gfs tried to re-assure me that their ex-bfs sucked by telling me stuff about their relationship that I really didn't want to hear. 😃 I understand that they had t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:35 AM
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Setting up boundaries that you both agree to I am all for setting up healthy boundaries. But stuff like this is difficult to navigate because anything you might ask for might be seen as interfering with their friendships and be seen as controlling and abusive. Even if one's partner agrees to the boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:57 AM
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I think I understood it correctly. You think that a man in an LTR is afraid that his girlfriend might cheat on him with one of her former fwbs and that that's the reason why the man doesn't want her to be in contact with her former fwbs. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:33 AM
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Hehe, you wrongly assume men are afraid of cheating when it comes to former fwbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:48 PM
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You can convince yourself you’re immune, but there are many deep layers of psychology you’re fucking with, on behalf of yourself and the people you’re involving. 👍👍👍
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:07 PM
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Can lead to very awkward situations if you don't. People should do whatever they want but should also accept it when their current SO doesn't like coming into any contact with former fuckbuddies (which usually is what happens eventually) and decides to break up. EDIT: This is also one of the reasons why I am sceptical when PPDers claim that casually sleeping around in your circle of friends was a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:22 PM
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FWIW I know exactly what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:31 PM
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Oof 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:19 PM
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To that I can only say: Cats. 💁‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:12 PM
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Overstimulated 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:09 PM
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Never try to make sense of what celebrities are doing and never attempt to learn from it. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:06 PM
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Anecdotally it's the opposite. The men I know dish appreciation out while the women don't. Or much less. Again: anecdotally
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:27 PM
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It's the same with ADHD. Makes sense. One of my female buddies had ADHD and on first glance I just thought she was bubbly. I can't picture ADHD presenting in a guy exactly like it did in her. (I might sound completely ignorant here because I am).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:25 PM
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I don't see why this wouldn't count. I'd understand it if a woman hates the idea of being settled for in the context of casual sex. Different experience, same concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:19 PM
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Huh. Interesting. Didn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:12 PM
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I don't usually celebrate people getting fired for saying "wrong" things, but given the current climate, I appreciate that for once it was a woman who was fired for shitting on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:06 PM
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I was wondering if TRP, which is mainly aimed at self-improvement and "understanding" how gender dynamics work is also applicable to neurodivergent people, namely Aspergers and people with autism. I am sorry, but no. TRP is designed to help average frustrated chumps. We have neither the knowledge nor the experience to provide you with resources for your specific challenges. We/TRP might do more harm than good because we aren't experts with forms of autism. That doesn't mean that you won't find a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:47 PM
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I'm used to looking at myself in a mirror and I thought I would look shredded. Haha, that's one of the first things we gym-bros find out and learn to cope with. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:36 PM
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sometimes it feels scummy And that never goes away. 😃 Seriously, I didn't even make out with any of my dates and I still felt scummy. I never really got used to having multiple dates. But the confidence boost was unreal. The difference in mindset between "omg, I finally got a date" and "just another date" is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:28 PM
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date one person until you decide whether you wanna be serious or not, or do you date around until they you discuss being exclusive Red pill calls the first one the "sniper approach" and the second one the "shotgun approach". And endorses the second approach. Most average guys who dont have lots of experience on top of romantic delusions choose the sniper approach without even thinking about it. I know that I did. Would you be upset if you found out your girl was dating around while dating you ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:48 PM
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Seems like the links are already down. The twitter link worked for me but now it doesn't. A few minutes later. The only thing I want to say is that I understand that people can be on/off when it comes to fitness. 🙂 "Not working out right now" is something that I am willing to let slide. Life happens and stuff happens. I am really into lifting weights and I love it. But sometimes the circumstances and higher powers just don't allow for it for a few months. I get back in shape quickly though. Of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:32 PM
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Did it occur to you that maybe I have some equally valid points? Of course it does.🙂 But keep in mind that you didn't flair it as debate but "question for men" and asked us "do you value...". It's to be expected that the conversation won't be centered around exchanging viewpoints and arguments but us telling our side of the story. As requested. It's just awesome how your one comment above shows that you completely get us. 😃You wouldn't have had to say anything else in this thread: "I'll think ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 02:24 PM
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🤔 Interesting. Because I did martial arts from age 15-18. Not competitive, more traditional. We always started with bodyweight training. I had to quit because of back and knee problems because training was intense. And hit the gym instead. Which not only completely got rid of my back and knee problems but somehow it seemed to trigger something and work like a catalyst for, don't know how to call it, well, everything I did before. The physicality and physical confidence I got from martial arts wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 01:40 PM
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Which is why we can research, read and learn, come up with new concepts and strategies, discuss and debate... ... but the ultimate first advice for every red piller will always be: "Lift heavy!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 01:45 AM
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Spread that knowledge! This is the kind of shit I want to know!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 01:09 AM
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Nobody says the guy should be bitching about it. Why can't she just accept that sexual monogamy isn't exactly easy for him and conclude: "Yay! I must be awesome and he loves me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:15 PM
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I agree. Women don't even have to appreciate it. Just realise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 10:57 PM
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Interesting. Because I'd think that having less empathy would be better in a job like yours. The more empathy you have, the more the terrible stuff gets to you, right? I have no doubt that you need empathy to do the job but boy does it sound like a double- edged sword in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:45 PM
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🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:36 PM
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😂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:31 PM
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It might not even be worth it if you are an idealist. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:22 PM
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Of course women can feel love and empathy. 🙂 Agreeing with the guys who said that women are more selective in who deserves their empathy though. Another thing: Women sometimes empathise and support their friends in ways men might not immediately recognise as empathy and support.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:17 PM
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Having worked at a hospital I think the empathy aspect of the profession is overestimated. You can be a nurse without empathy just like you can be a teacher without idealism. Not trying to prove anything here, just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:13 PM
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Sure, fight for it. Nobody takes an issue with that. Just don't use abortion as evidence that women are oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 08:57 PM
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I used to call myself a feminist 🙂 I hope you are still advocating for women's rights and speaking about women's issues. Just without the feminist framework. Empowering women is awesome, raising awareness for women's issues is awesome, making female role models more visible and helping men and women to understand each other better is awesome. but the lack of accountability is pretty horrific in the community at this point. Don't blame the community! I have no doubt that most women become feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 08:49 PM
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Np. The part where he says that he is not talking about white nationalists when he says "good people" and where he condemns white nationalists was edited out in a lot of videos. So, it's no surprise that most people don't know what he really said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:25 PM
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" “Hey, those proud boys and NC mobs are good people." That’s not fake news that’s what he actually said to the press It's literally fake news. He said: "So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely un…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:57 PM
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Poland just banned abortion. It always plays out like this: "Give me symptoms of oppression of women, plz" "Poland just banned abortion." "If banning abortion is a symptom of oppression... isn't that a sign that women maybe aren't oppressed in countries where abortion is legal?" "No. It's evidence that women are oppressed everywhere."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:25 PM
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Doesn't matter. This is actual feminist stuff you could find at a university. It's not a fringe opinion. It's exactly what feminism taken to logical conclusion is about. "Men are the privileged oppressors in power. It's not women's responsibility to end oppression. No, the oppressors must accept that they are oppressors and must end oppression." What they don't say here is another logical conclusion: "The evil oppressors naturally will NOT stop being oppressors. That's why we need a violent revo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:59 PM
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🙄 Will I find historical documents that say "we need to ban abortion out of spite and to punish women and to stop women from having sex out of marriage"? Of course, I won't. What I will find is feminist literature baselessly claiming that these were the intentions of people who wanted to ban abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:30 PM
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Men did it out of spite and a desire to stop women from having sex out of marriage. See? Your ideology is designed to make you attribute malice and misogyny to everything men or society do. With ready- made explanations for everything that happens. That's exactly how ideologies of hate work. I am 100% pro- abortion. My parents less so. Their belief is that abortion is literally killing babies. Whether they are right or not, their intention is not to punish women out of spite or stop women from h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:10 PM
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Well, the problem here is that you're dogmatic that banning abortion isn't oppression. You are dogmatic that banning abortion is oppression. Those are legitimate concerns that need to be addressed. Doesn't mean women are oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:45 PM
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Women have legitimate concerns, they have legitimate demands, they have legitimate issues. Doesn't mean they are oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:23 PM
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What's the metric that ends oppression? Exactly! There is no metric. By design. No matter how much we address women's issues or even completely get rid of them, it doesn't matter because men are still the oppressor class and women the oppressed class. There's just the vague idea of some kind of revolution to completely overthrow patriarchy. Revolution to end patriarchy. Revolution to end whiteness. Revolution to end heteronormativity. Revolution to end capitalism. It's all the same bull and desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:21 PM
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Women form an oppressed class in society No, they don't. They may have gendered issues but that doesn't mean that they are oppressed. Seriously, can't people see that framing it as oppressors vs oppressed is intentionally done to sow hate and division?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:42 PM
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Wow, so much hatred. 😕 The article is basically saying: "If your man doesn't already agree with every (yes, every) feminist talking point, and doesn't see that women are oppressed and doesn't already actively fight to free women from oppression, he's a piece of garbage. If he wants to talk about even a single feminist talking point and maybe disagree, he is lost." No sane man checks every one of these boxes. Which means the only intention of the article is to destroy relationships and make men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:57 PM
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What does it for me though is her appreciation. Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:42 PM
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Be at the right place at the right time. Make pursuing you fun and not make him jump through hoops. Show him that you like him. Don't make fun of stuff he shows you, like for example his guitar playing or singing or drawing or whatever stuff he's proud of. I think that's it. There's probably more, but this is the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:39 PM
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I can't find the new york crime and enforcement activities report 2021. Maybe they stopped doing them. But the numbers from the previous years seem to confirm the "seems" Shootings ("any crime where victim struck with bullet"): 2018: 897 victims, 447 suspects 2019: 922 victims, 482 suspects 2020: 1868victims, 738 suspects ‐--------
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:56 AM
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Men should call the bluff on fucking principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:32 AM
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Upside down! I cri evrytiem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:28 AM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:57 AM
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That was actually the reason why people were opposed to the idea of faultless divorce. People knew that it could lead to men divorcing their wives for a younger model. Now it's framed as if faultless divorce was opposed because men wanted to have ultimate control over their wives and not give that up. And framed as a win for feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:31 PM
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Leagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:25 PM
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so that people like me have more options People like you = women = already got a lot of options
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:35 PM
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They are taking their marriage vows seriously. Not saying that it's good or bad. But it's often the reason they suffer through a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:25 PM
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👍👍👍
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:00 PM
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It's not only about actual AF/BB situations. The fact alone that dating feels like less of an up-hill battle than in your 20s and that women seem to respect you more (genuinely or not) can be grounds for growing resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:41 PM
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Guaranteed orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:29 PM
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I think we wouldn't even see a real difference. If somebody changed the timeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:11 PM
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This is both hilarious and unironically the best approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:50 PM
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Yes, we did! 🙂👊
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:56 PM
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I'm a strategy games wonk I am Metroidvania guy. : ) We can learn a lot from games if we approach them as an educational tool True. And I think we could learn a lot from games about how to make teaching much more effective. understanding your general tendencies, your level of risk-taking Yes! Emphasis: your. What you said in your earlier comment: "expressing yourself through your unique playstyle" might sound confusing to non-gamers. But it is actually more natural than to, say, trying to expres…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:41 PM
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Reading it again, yeah, I sounded like I did and I know what you mean but I don't actually. I wasn't thinking of intricate builds and how to choose perks for synergy effects and maximising damage output. I was thinking about stuff that you have to know to come up with any kind of strategy. For example the cover system in X-Com. Playing you might think you have a great angle for a shot vs a guy who is in half- cover. Perfect line of fire. If you read a guide you'll find out that angle isn't taken…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:06 PM
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😃
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:57 PM
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But if you struggle, or you just want to be better at it, consider taking knowledge of "how to play" from community of more experience players. Interesting. If you think about it, it's very different when you have to only read a guide to find a quest item for example. You could have found it without reading a guide but it's more convenient to look it up. In any case, you don't hate the fact that the quest item is hidden. That's one thing. What really annoys me though is when I have to look up ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:21 PM
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While I agree with your points, I think it actually was feminism that came up with "life on easy mode" both for describing male privilege and white privilege. "Tutorial mode" was men's hilarious comeback.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:01 PM
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Men have created their own version of feminine and then brainwashed women into believing this is how women naturally act. I do like the occasional conspiracy theory. But this one is just ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:44 PM
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I understand that women have safety concerns of course. But yeah, sometimes it's really strange. A female friend wanted to meet with a guy she met on a dating site for coffee. At a Starbucks. One of her female friends convinced her that it wasn't safe enough and she canceled last minute. 😃 Coffee. At Starbucks. Dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:38 PM
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By lasting I mean no cheating, no "cuckolding", both partners actually love each other, and they are happy with their lives and relationship. Whenever that happens I am genuinely happy for them. 🙂 That said, I see a lot more relationships were both partners are complacent and comfortable but not really happy and not really in love. How does TRP really view these men, unfiltered and with no lingo? I am going to say the exact same as /u/Don_Antonio_S. "They are not living up to their potential." A…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:22 PM
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Not living up to their potential. My exact reaction and first thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:15 PM
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🙋‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:57 AM
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🙁
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:35 AM
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You might think the growing share of unmarried people living without a spouse is due to rising educational levels among women who don't need the financial support of a man. The statistics tell a different story, though. Hear, hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:28 AM
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But I saw the bluepill sub today and was disappointed, [...] It seems like bluepillers make fun of good young men that are simply living their lives average-ly TheBluePill was created as a pure satire/parody sub to mock TRP. It doesn't serve any other purpose, like for example productive discussions. That's no front against the sub, it's just something you need to know when you try to read the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:57 AM
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You can give the poorest in the country abortions or you can have a lot more kids on welfare and pay more in taxes; you can't have both. That alone is reason enough for me to say "Thumbs up for abortion".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:32 AM
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In general, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:28 AM
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😃
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:12 AM
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Makes sense. 👍 I guess someone who delves into TRP with the mindset of "I just want to find as much misogynistic stuff in there as possible and complain about it" will never see TRP like somebody who approaches TRP with a mindset of "I want to better understand dating and relationships".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:55 PM
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In fact some RP aware content creators are the first to point out to men, do not be fooled by a 10/10 beauty queen, Amen. I remember when Rocky and Adrian were often mentioned as an example for a red pill choice over at TRP. She is not stunningly beautiful but reasonably good-looking and fiercely loyal. I don't know why non-TRP people have the idea that TRP is not about relationships and that TRP thinks personality doesn't matter. It's just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:07 PM
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I am biased because my friends and I all had learned comfort with IRL fellowship, bonding, and rapport building but it didn't help us at all with finding a relationship. Then my brother found a PUA forum online and it was game on for me. I guess I’m ambi in that I enjoy both. It's not that I didn't enjoy playing outside at all. But everyday and for hours? Say 1800 hours per year? How the hell are you supposed not to get bored with the same few stupid playgrounds and the same stupid creek? Seriou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:57 PM
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yea but that didn't turn us all into social butterflies. beyond a certain point of basic 101 social skills 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:30 PM
1

idk i liked my childhood with all the riding around on bikes with my friends around a peaceful suburb, but we all kind of stopped doing that around like 12 years old because...we grew up. Oh yeah, the riding around on your bikes part was awesome... for a while. It got really boring eventually. Like really really really boring and I have Vietnam flashbacks when I think back on how endless the hours outside were.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:29 PM
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At least millennials a large part of our lives was pre internet. We had to go out and be social. Malls, skating rings, clubs, etc. True. I was there and it SUCKED! 😃 I always felt that something important was missing. The moment we got internet the world suddenly made sense. Click. "Ah, that's what was missing!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:20 PM
1

Good! Now stop yapping like a little girl and give me 50 push-ups on your knuckles. 😃👊
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:15 PM
1

So this is MSM reflecting a cultural change I am going full conspiracy theory on this one. In my opinion the one and only reason is: sending the messages "men, you must and want date overweight women" and "women, no matter how overweight you are, you deserve a fit guy." No reflection of anything or whatever, it is pure and direct brainwashing. Brainwashing and only brainwashing. Alex Guitars Jones out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:13 PM
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😥
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:27 PM
1

Not saying that it's universal but it happened to me. That shit just resurfaced constantly. On the other hand, it was the opposite for a friend of mine. Once he was in a great relationship it was as if he completely forgot his (bitter) past. Stuff just affects people differently. I agree that OP shouldn't worry about it now. He can't know if it will actually become an issue for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:26 PM
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👊
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:15 PM
1

Quiet! From now on, you won't listen to your guidance counselor. You're going to listen to me. Is that understood?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:10 PM
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When they find an online group discussing how actually, you do need to buy cat food and feed your cat every day, they declare it's a "hate group against cats". And then, 10 years later they say: "Everybody knows this stuff about cats already. You don't need an online group for that! This is all common knowledge."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:19 PM
5

😃😹👍
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:16 PM
23

Why are you on PPD? The only correct answer: "I honestly don't know"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 06:53 PM
2

😃 Reading your comments is really fascinating. Like some kind of four-leaf clover. "She gets it!" "She gets it not." "She gets it!" "She gets it not." And I don't mean that negatively. Seems like you are genuinely trying to find out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 06:23 PM
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I think you overestimate how much resentment red pillers who are actually dating hold towards women. Not that I blame you. Debates on PPD are like a magnifying glass over one's resentment. Same with raging feminists. I always think that they don't hate men in real-life as much as it appears judging by the comments they write.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 06:07 PM
2

I can go on all day long explaining how my whole childhood was one endless joke against fatherhood to the point where even that is just fucking insulting and no boy growing up in that BS would ever want to be a father which is synonymous with clown, loser, and broken man. Damn. That hit close to home.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 05:26 PM
1

Does that happen a lot? Or do you just feel like it happens a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 05:09 PM
2

Okay okay, specifics. I think you got my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 05:03 PM
1

Data makes it even worse. I could be the best husband ever and invest twice the effort into the marriage that she does, but my feminist wife wouldn't see it because she rather believes the data. No, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 04:59 PM
2

If we compliment you sexually but don’t sleep with you, is that good? That would be absolutely awesome. 😃 But not even necessary. I don't know if "nice ass" counts as sexually complimenting. Should we lie and say we want to fuck you when we don’t ? No. I don't know where this idea comes from, but no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 04:53 PM
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It's not nothing. To a woman, it's a way bigger compliment I get that. And because I get that, I don't tell my female friends "nice ass!". Which is what I would want to get as a compliment. But I know that they are women and like different compliments. That's why I choose other things to compliment. I wish women would do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 04:33 PM
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Holy s**t. The destructive feminist brainwashing on full display here. 😕 Imagine guys you were married and that's how your wife evaluated your marriage. "I invest much more into the marriage than you do. I sacrifice much more than you do. You work hard and I envy you for it." Seriously, you work hard to advance your career to be able to provide for your family, but instead of "thank you for working hard to provide for our family" you get "you got that career boost because of me and I envy you fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 04:30 PM
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If they're looking for a father, then he has to be stable, not have a temper, etc; if they're looking for a ONS, then he has to be reasonably hot. Exactly. And "you are reasonable hot" is an awesome compliment and validation. While "you're stable and don't have a temper" is basically nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:59 PM
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FWIW, I can absolutely imagine this particular co-worker driving an hour to have sex with her spouse, and then doing her own thing for the weekend. Awesome! 🙂 See, that's what we (men) are talking about. We don't automatically feel like we are the losers vs the casual sex guys of the past when we are in a serious relationship. It's stuff like this. If she does the same for her husband, great.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:38 PM
2

Wait, what! It isn't "the open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 02:31 PM
3

Did the hot guy feel abandoned? Would he have married her? Would she call her future boyfriend/husband and say: "I know you are spending the weekend with the boys but is it okay if I drop by just to have sex with you and then immediately leave? I'll gladly drive one hour just to have sex with you and then leave and let you have a fun weekend with the boys."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 02:28 PM
1

🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 02:18 PM
7

I'm extremely interested in the concept of men being able to cheat on a woman but still love her and their feelings not change. Red Pill would explain it like this: When a woman in a relationship comes across a guy who is far more attractive than her boyfriend, her biological wiring tells her: "Have sex with that man instead of your boyfriend. When a man in a relationship comes across a woman who is far more attractive than his girlfriend, his biological wiring tells him: "have sex with her, too…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 01:41 PM
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However, I see a lot of men on this forum claiming that the men who got casual sex once and were abandoned If it was like that, fine. But most of the time these men were not "abandoned". It was the men that had no real interest in them in the first place. They never had a thing that the woman could somehow abandon. are 'being treated better' or 'winning,' Yup. and that the men who were pursued, If we feel pursued during courtship, yeah. However, that is often not the case. We are doing the pursu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 01:32 PM
1

Nothing. With that said, I have seen it "work" for some guys. Right place, right time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:16 AM
5

Fair. 😃 But let's not pretend that discussions about the dating market on PPD are econ 301 level.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:09 AM
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Of course there isn't. But the models used in discussion still assume perfect information.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:01 AM
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It seems like women have a looks threshold where if a guy meets that threshold (let’s say a 7) You are describing men here, not women. 😃 Men operate mostly on a threshold. Women less so. This is one of the important parts of hypergamy that isn't talked about enough. If a woman increases her attractiveness she will see diminishing returns for her efforts. As long as she is over the threshold, additional points in SMV won't change much in how men treat her. It's completely different for men. If a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:44 AM
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Turns out she was so out of touch with reality she thought that most people make 6+figures instead of around 45k. Damn...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:55 PM
1

Holy! 😳 And they say Aikido doesn't work...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:25 PM
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🤔 Well, I chalk that up to PPD being a debate sub. It's not that people don't want to admit it, it's just that the question "what did I do wrong" rarely comes up. So, yeah, good question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:12 PM
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Is it really that hard? 😃 I have no problem admitting that there was not a single relationship I had that ended where I was blameless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:53 PM
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Yeah, makes sense, but my original point still stands: It's a market without perfect information. And that's why two guys who have the same value on paper can have wildly different experiences when they are dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:29 PM
2

It was funny: I asked my mum why every woman thinks Jason Momoa is hot even the ones who say they don't like huge muscles. She thought about it for a while and said: "He is just so ridiculously good-looking his body is completely irrelevant." 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:15 PM
2

I had the same "issue"! I solved it easily. 🙂 Just be more honest about stuff you don't like in general. Say and show that you don't like x and y. People will see that you are not just faking it and your gushes will seem even more valuable than they are now. Thank me later!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:05 PM
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The market decides that, all of us get what we deserve. While it is helpful to see the dating world as a market and apply economic concepts in discussions, we should never forget that most of the basic models that describe markets assume perfect information. But there is no such thing on the dating market. She could, with perfect information, objectively say "yes, this is a high value guy". She could say "yes, this guy is the best guy I can get for a marriage. Not only are we perfectly compatibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:00 PM
3

So i lost almost 60lbs now. Congrats! 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:32 PM
3

I am aware that some guys calling themselves MGTOW are just one blowjob away from the plantation. 😂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:03 PM
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Good point. Many people do try to make up for a lack of x (for example looks) by putting more effort into y (for example performance). But it's definitely a misconception that most people have this mindset. Took me a while to figure that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 07:28 PM
6

I'd say that the difference between red pill and black pill is that red pill says that status actually makes you more attractive while black pill says it only makes you an attractive choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:52 PM
1

Jesus Christ... 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:04 PM
4

Great. So the red pill idea is that you shouldn't commit to a relationship just because you're sex-starved and lonely and because there's one girl that just happens to be around and doesn't completely hate the idea of having a relationship with you. That wouldn't be the start of a promising relationship or marriage. That's why red pill endorses spinning plates. The idea is that when you are spinning plates, you are not sex-starved, not lonely and you won't commit to a random chick just because s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:54 PM
2

Gladly. Do you know what "spinning plates" means in RP speak?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:40 PM
2

TRP is not for relationships and they don’t advise men get into relationships. This is just not true. That's not what the red pill does. If you mean red pill noobs and black pill guys, yeah, they might advice not to get into relationships. But relationship stuff is an integral part of TRP whether you want to believe it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:29 PM
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Seconded
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:42 PM
0

is it enough to conclude anything? Probably not. But it's definitely a piece of the puzzle that should be mentioned in discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:41 AM
1

5 pts? Why is nobody talking about this? I have never heard it brought up in discussions about IQ. Not once.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:40 AM
2

If [insert anything here], go to a craft beer event. 🍻
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:24 AM
3

While what you say does make sense I can't help myself and will always judge people for having unreasonable standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:07 AM
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Ah, I see. Okay, so it's not for a lack of trying. But to clarify: there were dates that led to nowhere. Where you rejected or did it just lead to nowhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:07 PM
1

The thing is I've worked hard on myself, I'm above average in looks, money, health, etc... yet I'm still not getting results. Are you actively trying and getting rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:01 PM
2

Lie about your virginity, appear confident in what you're doing and it won't be a problem. 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:37 PM
2

Pity sex, no. Pity BJ, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:24 PM
1

Not you. With "they, I meant the men she was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:43 AM
3

😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:41 AM
0

See? He didn't mention mention female sexuality at all. You brought it up out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:09 AM
1

But they don't hate female sexuality. They hate sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:06 AM
1

I'll send your grandmother all the get-well-soon-energy I have. I have seen some remarkable recoveries working in the neurological wing of a hospital.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 10:46 PM
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I can only hope if I try dating apps men don't think it means I'm damaged, a "carousel rider," or otherwise deficient. No, don't worry. 🙂 Relationship- minded men will use the app for the same reason you are using it. Most people just don't run across attractive potential partners in real-life on a regular basis. Btw, would you look down on the men you meet with the dating app? Like "why don't these guys man up and approach women (or approach me) at the grocery store or local Target?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 10:37 PM
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Last but not least, do you think there tends to be "something wrong" with women who are on online dating Not at all. Even if you are socially active it's not guaranteed that you regularly come across attractive single people of the opposite sex. That's why expanding your options by looking online for single people makes sense to me. So, no, I wouldn't respect her even less than women I meet in real- life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 10:17 PM
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Not going to lie, the social proof aspect of a relationship is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 11:03 PM
3

I love how you clearly differentiate between mean, cunty and bitchy. 😃 Other people would use them synonymously. But not you, Grids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 11:02 PM
2

This
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:32 PM
1

Red pill calls that the "beta allowance scale".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:55 PM
1

Haha, same!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:55 PM
2

But think about it, aren't guys more likely to "shoot" out of their league? aim high... Anecdotally, no. I have seen guys who do, but they aren't the norm. I have seen a lot more women who were shooting out of their league. Again: purely anecdotally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:54 PM
1

What I'd do is work on my kicks and punches for example. In slow- motion. You could use the sore-muscle day to refine any physical skill really.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:50 PM
1

No workout if your muscles are sore!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:28 PM
3

Thank you. 🙂 Tbh, I can understand the frustration on both sides. I can be stand-offish on PPD, too. But it helped me a lot in real-life. We had discussions about compliments on PPD years ago and it was eye-opening. Many women said that one reason that they rarely give compliments was because they were worried that they wouldn't come across as genuine. That thought never crossed my mind. And my real-life female friends confirmed that they were worrying about coming across as genuine. I never tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:35 PM
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I do compliment men all the time, as well as other women. I think it’s mostly just about being a genuine human. And that's awesome. My guess it that it comes naturally to you and that's why you wonder what all the fuss is about. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:20 PM
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That's awesome! 🙂 Reminds me of one of my best platonic friends. People lit up like christmas trees around her. She was like a nitro infusion in her circle of friends. 😃 I love hearing that it works for you, too. Stuff like this makes my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:56 PM
2

In mean you’re the one saying you want validation from women here with zero context. True. In my defense, I was just trying to avoid my usual wall-of-text entry. My recommended approach is: Don't be ashamed if you feel the need for female validation. Who knows why you feel the need for femalevalidation. Maybe your mother didn't love you. What do I know? Point is: The need is there, you can't just get rid of it with the push of a button. Work on yourself and become somebody who is worth validatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:49 PM
1

Miserable? I just don't think trying to "accept yourself" and tell yourself "that you are enough" is a viable strategy for happiness. If it really works for somebody, fine. But I honestly don't see it working in real-life. I am more pragmatic. Instead of trying to accept that you are terminally-ill-looking skinny, just workout and get buff. You'll enjoy massive health benefits, have fun during the workouts and maybe even get validation by others for your looks. How does "practicing to accept bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:00 AM
2

👍
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:04 AM
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A boy becomes a man when he You're seriously trying the "a real man is/does/would..."- angle? That stuff doesn't work anymore, sorry. 😃 And who was talking about disapproval or random chicks in a club or at work? Nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:13 PM
4

Exactly! It's called having friends. It's awesome and completely normal. Honestly, I see it as just another attack on men, baselessly claiming that men in general don't form great friendships and suck at being friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:32 PM
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But if one are not happy and still feel alone when his entire group of friends is going out of their way to make you feel cared for and appreciated then I find it hard to believe he will be happy and not feel alone in a relationship with a woman. How is that hard to believe? If he already has a great social circle, the relationship is just the missing piece of the puzzle. And yes, he will be happy when the puzzle is finished. I was in that situation and my first girlfriend really was like the la…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:42 PM
5

I strongly disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:52 PM
5

No, men should absolutely seek validation from women. By putting in the work, improving themselves and then choosing women who like making compliments and saying nice things as friends and/or girlfriends. Women who don't hate the thought of validating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:32 PM
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As a woman, I legitimately do not get this. Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:21 PM
1

Just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:42 PM
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It's not the MOST important thing but we cannot always be our own biggest cheerleader. Well put! 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:11 PM
1

Don't. Just don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:45 PM
2

Most people will tell men to be upfront and say “Hey I’m honestly looking for something casual” and most men know that will yield horrific results and leave them ghosted with a dry dick. That method is reserved for a whole different level of SMV. It can work just fine. Depends on when you say that. If she already likes you enough she might think: "I just have to show him that I am worth commiting to. He'll change his mind. And you don't need stellar SMV in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:39 PM
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We do that all the time in my friend group of guys. It's great but it doesn't help against loneliness or desperation or whatever. Nothing and I mean nothing can substitute validation from the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:33 PM
2

So yeah, can we all stop being so blinded by the rage of "how hard we have it" that we callously dismiss the very real struggles of those who aren't like us? That's a good question. And the answer is: The problem is not "the rage of how hard we have it". The problem is that the well was poisoned too much. Decades of structural and institutional "Men are the oppressors! We need to tackle women's issues! There can be no sexism against men... by definition! Patriarchy! Hashtag Yes All Men!" have do…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:30 PM
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So it seems like: Men are more likely to hit on women who are nice and pleasant to be around. Men are less likely to hit on women who are rude or unfriendly or come across as cold. Now, how can we explain this? Of course! It's "men misinterpreting friendliness and kindness"! There is no other possible explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:18 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 08:20 PM
2

Probably yes. It's sad because it can be a sound financial decision. As long as it's transitory like the inflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:20 PM
2

Can't relate at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:19 PM
1

Oh man, seems like a lot of the old guard are gone. 🙁
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:21 PM
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Agreeable people, on the other hand, don't even know what they want if you ask them: they're so accostumed to doing what other people tell them to or expect This right here. Yes, it's true. Agreeable people can be exhausting af. Once they understand that it's in both persons interest that they clearly communicate what they want or don't want, agreeable people are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:34 AM
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It would be a shitty move, but I'd say a man who is in this situation should do it. Inexperience is one of the top reasons men fail on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:30 AM
1

Omg, Atlas! I am so happy to see you! PPD would be nothing without you. Thank you, I am fine. How are you doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:26 AM
0

Common sense 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:20 PM
2

Might sound stupid, but I honestly feel like I have seen it all. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 01:58 PM
2

Eject.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:08 PM
1

Yeah, I agree that we can't say how big exactly the disparity really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:09 PM
1

Well, what about the women who are drug addicts and gay? Let's just say these 1.1 million men are undateable for whatever reason. So how many women are there that are undateable? The undateable women are still "in the game" so to speak. Numberswise, a man exists for everyone of them. But they are undateable so you can add their number to the 1.1 million of men who will go without. And bam, we have a surplus of let's say 2 million men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:49 PM
5

Omg, trigger warning, please!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:30 PM
16

Some dialects are a real turn-off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:54 PM
8

Bleak.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:21 PM
3

Well, we have very selective immigration. Yeah, that's probably it. The clubs here are full of Turkish guys while the girls aren't allowed to go out. Sausage fests ensue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:12 PM
1

Interesting. Seems like Turkish immigration plays out much differently in Canada than here in Germany. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:01 PM
1

Beats me. There are still people who take the love first route, but like you say, it's not thatveasy to find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:38 PM
2

guess I wouldn't argue that this is in fact not a variable, but besides acknowledging it, what else is there to do? We could try to regulate immigration. Aim for 50/50 male female immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:51 PM
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If even you say that, I am willing to consider that it is less of a problem than I thought. I really am. However, when I think back of what was holding my friend and me back after our transformation with years in the gym under our belt, a complete do-over and tons of practice in game, playing in a band and meeting tons of people, the top 10 reasons that were holding us back were: There were no single women There were no single women There were no single women There were no single women There wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:44 PM
3

Dafuq?!! O.o EDIT: "No charges have been filed, the sheriff's office said, adding that the investigation is ongoing." sigh what a relief. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:09 AM
1

Thanks for the link and wow, it's super interesting. But now I feel like an ass for explaining something to you when you obviously know more about it than I do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:51 AM
0

Nobody is saying that they are taking their women. But they have to take their women or they'll have to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:43 AM
1

Not really no. There's just a slightly higher chance that the baby is male. What's really interesting: For some reason, and science doesn't know yet why, even more male babies are born in times of war. It's like nature knows that millions of men die in the trenches and need to be replaced, goes Oprah and says "you get a boy and you get a boy and you get a boy" 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:39 AM
1

Tons of stuff you could factor in. But why would you when it's just 1.1 million men? I mean that's like nothing, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:32 AM
1

The most important thing to know is that nature has made it so that 5% more boys than girls are born. Doesn't sound like much but it means that for 5 of 105 men, no woman exists. And that means that for 1 in 21 men, no woman exists. Look at a group of 10 million women. There will be 10.5 million men. So even if everybody paired off, you'd still have 500.000 leftover men. (And that's only looking at 10 million women)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:29 AM
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USA. Age group 15-24: About 21 million women About 22 million men 1.1 million more men than women. PPD: "I can't figure out for the life of me how that could possibly have any effect on dating."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:13 AM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:39 AM
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The graph is misleading. There are always about 5% more men in each age group (up until the age groups were men die earlier than women). So if everybody paired off, a man would need not to be in the bottom 5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:33 AM
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It's too long for the information covered. The creator put effort in but it's still strenous to watch. Too much repetition. Particularly if you're not invested in the topic. (I watched it because I have tried to find out more about the ridiculous surplus of men for years now.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:23 AM
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Finally, somebody who sees it, too 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:14 AM
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She told me. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:42 AM
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I am saying that no pressure is needed to let it affect his thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:09 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:19 AM
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Because they: know the answer and laugh at your question
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:11 AM
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It's because he wants to. Not because he is expected to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:08 AM
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Wait wait wait. I am not an incel. I spent most of my 20s in LTRs. But dating has always been kind of an uphill battle because there were so few single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 11:08 PM
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That's impossible. Asshole brain does asshole brain things if you want it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 11:02 PM
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Germany. 😃 It's really bad here, too. Even average guys are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 11:00 PM
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Thanks for the link, bro. 👍 Yeah, I can honestly say that after I started working out and getting buff, improved my game and got experience with women and was very active socially... ... the Top 5 problems I struggled with most were: There were no single women. There were no single women. There were no single women. There were no single women. Too many severely overweight women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 10:42 PM
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Nope, sorry. It was gone too fast. I have known about the issue for a long time and always wondered why nobody talks about it. Since your post has been deleted, could you link the video for me, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 10:25 PM
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No, they don't. Men die younger that's why there's a surplus of women. But not in the dating relevant age groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 10:19 PM
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RJ just kept getting smaller and smaller with each relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:22 PM
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They are the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:15 PM
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Nope, not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:04 PM
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yeah man I never thought I would be this petty person. Haha, yeah I hated myself for it. Did you break up soon after it hit you? No, we stayed together for years. In hindsight I should have ended it because it was unfair towards her. But the relationship was great otherwise. did you manage to find a different girl? Yes, I have been in LTRs during most of my 20s are you in a relationship now? No, I am not dating anymore. (Different reasons) did you try to fight it? what all did you try? Oh yes, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:00 PM
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Any kind of nail designs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:16 PM
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It's not the same. 🙂 Say you have a co-worker and he wants to put you down for some reason. He asks you a lot of questions with the intention of making you look dumb and insecure. To you it feels, and to outsiders it looks, as if he was a cop who is standing in front of you while you are sitting in the interrogation chair with a bright light shining in your face. With self-esteem you could just be stitting there, unphased, and answer the questions with self-confidence. And draw boundaries and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:36 PM
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Retroactive jealousy on my part put a huge strain on my first relationship. It hit me unexpectedly. I would never had thought before that it could be an issue. I would have laughed at the idea. I tried to get rid of it, but wasn't able to. I couldn't even say why I was retroactively jealous. RJ affects traditional folk who believe in a just world, that they abstained from sex before marriage and their partner should have too. "Just world" probably was the explanation. But not "before marriage". …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:18 PM
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No, of course not. I am not saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:11 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:09 PM
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That has always been my approach. 10/10, would recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:07 PM
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Was that the wrong answer? I honestly wanted to be of service and help prove your point. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:05 AM
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I see where you're coming from and you do have a point but I personally think that it it is far-fetched, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:04 AM
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Hell, no!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:58 AM
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Yup. Men: "She's great, I want to sleep with her, too." Women: "He's great, I want to sleep with him instead of my husband." Men and women are very different in this regard. And even more ironic: Cheating can help with the man's Coolidge- Effect and re-invigorate his and his wife's sex-life. I wish women understood this. I have seen multiple of women in their 30s wonder why the guy doesn't or didn't leave his wife for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:56 AM
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Ah, I see. Must have missed it. So what OP is saying isn’t so far fetched. OP is saying multiple things. I'd say that "they continuously emphasize their perceived "unfairness" of teenagers being considered minors" is far-fetched. I mean "men here whine about missing out in their teens" + "men here want women with a low n- count" = "men here find it unfair that teenagers are considered minors" is reaching a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:39 AM
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Rarely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:33 AM
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Ok. And was the whining about how hard it had been for them to go through their teens without love or did they say "I am old now but want to sleep with teenage girls because I want to experience teenage love"? Because I don't see a problem with the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:24 AM
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In your mind, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:19 AM
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most men here say it they might not say it openly or directly but they say it Say what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:52 PM
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why do they continuously emphasize their perceived "unfairness" of teenagers being considered minors That doesn't seem to be a common sentiment here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:49 PM
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Probably just ""lying". It has nothing to do with pickup game.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:47 PM
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Erm, nobody would call that "game".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:41 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:35 PM
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That wasn't the question. The question was "why aren't they bragging?".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:21 PM
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This happens, too. Some Chads have a reputation for being awesome in bed and word of mouth is working for them. But they tend to attract a different type of woman than the above mentioned Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:34 PM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:41 PM
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Who says they aren't? Many are bragging about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:33 PM
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No, it doesn't imply shame. He just knows that some women will be more likely to have casual sex with him if he has a reputation of keeping it a secret.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:32 PM
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Why aren’t these men bragging about having a massive harem of thousands of women? Who says they don't? Many of them do. Many of them don't because they know that Chads with a reputation of being discreet about their hook-ups are a prefered choice of many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:29 PM
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but had several girlfriends in the past that demanded I beat up someone for checking them out too much Might be your social circle(s)? This doesn't strike me as common.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:53 PM
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I see more couples where the man is more attractive. Most of the times simply because he isn't as overweight as his gf/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:39 PM
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It's the simple difference between guys with a "sex is something special"- mindset and guys without that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:22 PM
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Exactly! Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:01 AM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 01:43 AM
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I meant that regular “objectification” tends to have callous outcomes. Not how you personally apply the 1-10 scale. I know how you meant it. : ) And I am saying that no, engaging in regular objectification of women by using the 1-10 scale doesn't tend to have callous outcomes. You won't see women as things, you won't be unconsciously treating them as lesser, you won't think they deserve less courtesey. It makes a lot of sense in theory that it could lead to exactly that. It sounds perfectly reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 12:37 AM
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Ah, sorry, I thought you meant "rating on the website hot or not" doesn't feel as cathartic as in real-life. But you meant "the hot not maybe" scale doesn't feel as cathartic. And yes, that's it. I wouldn't use the word "cathartic", but to show how the scales work differently: You want to approach a girl. If you use "hot not maybe", "not" is already out of the question. So you got only two categories left to put her in. It doesn't put you in the "I am the connaisseur, I am the one who does the j…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 12:17 AM
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The original purpose of rating women on the 1-10 scale was to put you in a mindset that helps you to actually approach them. Approach them with confidence. Not to rate and then lean back in your chair and watch hentai porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:57 PM
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You’re saying the purpose of the scale was to empower low self esteem men to judge others and not always feel like the judged? Yes, exactly. And it did work. I remember how edgy my friend and I felt when we first tried it at a club. 😃 The mere thought of rating a woman's looks on a scale of 1-10 was outrageous to us. but I suppose the dudes doing the judging don’t feel like it’s a cathartic enough? Well, they don't approach the girls after rating them on hot or not. Rendering the whole rating pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:39 PM
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I don't get the need to force the whole "1-10" thing. I don't like the 1-10 scale for practical reasons either but the "need" for the scale from PUA's view was completely different. It was meant to get low self-esteem guys out of their "am I good looking enough"- mindset and into an "is she looking good enough"- mindset. Of course it doesn't make much sense to want to know whether you're a 6.5 or low 7 or high 6 or whatever. But the idea was to change frame from "I am being jugded" to "I am the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:16 PM
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It probably would. Never tried it, but I think it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:37 PM
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Yes, men do it, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:28 PM
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Source on how it doesn't make a difference? A source that says "yeah, no woman exists for 1 in 21 men, but it doesn't make a difference, because...", please.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:05 PM
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It does make a difference. And like I said you are right. People don't always date inside their age range. Which makes it even harder for young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:00 PM
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Not in the dating relevant age groups. Yes, men die earlier and if you count all age groups, there's a surplus of women. But that doesn't matter if you are under 60 years of age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:52 PM
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the amount of single men and single women on total is the same That's statistically impossible. At least in the dating relevant age groups. 5% more men than women are born. Age group 15-24 in the US: 21.99 million men 20.83 million women A surplus of men of 1.16 million. That means even if all men suddenly turned Chad and all people were in relationships, there would still be over a million incels. You are right that older men dating younger women make the odds even worse for younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:47 PM
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I agree. Men becoming immune to shaming tactics is/ will be one of the biggest game- changers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:59 PM
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I think they would, yes. I mean, PUA was really tame and negative views of women were not common. People still hated it and tried to paint it in the worst light possible. Many in the MGTOW community are openly hateful, yes. But if they weren't, they'd probably be accused of being secretely hateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 09:10 AM
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Basically everything from the "Masks are useless. Only crazy conspiracy theorist right wingers wear masks. Don't buy masks because you don't need masks, but hospital staff does." -era is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:55 AM
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Hard to say because I'm pretty sure a lot of those articles have been scrubbed from the internet There is a lot of stuff I can't find anymore. Might just be a lack of google skills on my part in a lot of cases, but there are vids and articles that have been taken down, no doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:22 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:38 AM
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I don't see the issue. How did you expect them to react to your message? What should they have answered? It's always good to show that there are no hard feelings. And takes zero effort. If you are pissed, yeah, maybe don't answer, but it's definitely not their problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:36 AM
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It's been a while but almost all the arguments in my relationships had to do with love language. "You don't care. You didn't do/ never do x". "I thought y was more important to you." This and variations of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:04 AM
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be well soon!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:33 AM
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I spent most of my 20s in long term relationships. I always had close female friends since about age 19. I'd say I have a lot of experience with actual women. Found red pill at about age 33. TRP has distorted my view of women to a point beyond caricature which has nothing to do with how actual women in my life behave. Anyone else can relate? Can't relate at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 05:32 PM
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It seems to be greater than just 'calories in calories out' based on eating more and exercising less would entail. Thank you. Many don't believe it. I use the "it's not just calories in calories out" a lot to encourage people to experiment more and see how they react to different diets. And no, US guys have seen thin and thick women of all types, and some still like thicc. I'm not talking about real chubby chasers Yeah, I'll concede that I don't have any insight into American dating preferences.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:38 PM
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Under-weight men did the worst of any weight group Finally, somebody brings this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 12:35 PM
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I can picture it. That's something most average guys with romantic delusions or a "sex is special"- mindset don't understand. Many Chads just don't give a fuck. They don't think sex is special and just go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 12:29 PM
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The guy will have an easier time of it but both genders are pretty shit in getting fat tbh. I don't disagree. 😃 Woman in comparison will be used to smaller portion sizes and not be able to up as fast. I'd counter with: In the age of soda and sweets, portion sizes are almost irrelevant. You could eat reasonably sized healthy meals and still add weight just by drinking soda and eating sweets. You can see this in action with small guys trying to gain weight, it is a struggle for them because they j…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 12:23 PM
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This is a flawed expirement though I'll concede that I didn't put a lot of brainpower into the experiment. 😃 if it was instead add 10% weight on both i would take your bet personally Yeah! Let's do that. Much better. I also want to add: Who is more likely to add 35 pounds. A man who burns 2500kcal per day or a woman who burns 1900kcal per day? When some of my slightly overweight male friends talked about fat women, I told them "be glad that you have a male metabolism. If you had a female metabol…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:47 AM
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Can confirm. This really happens. More than one might think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 10:59 AM
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has modified even beauty ideals for women. All this talk of 'thicc' or 'phat ass' or 'big beauty'. Yeah, I don't buy it. Send these guys to 90s Germany and see if they still prefer "thicc". You do have a point with racial differences. Fat on a latina woman for example might look much better than on a European woman. I am not trying to put anybody down. I don't believe that more people are slacking off or anything. There seems to be "something in the water" for lack of a better term.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 10:42 AM
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In the US and Canada, the genders seem roughly equal in terms of obesity. Official stats say that 67% of men here are overweight while only 53% of women are overweight. It's ridiculous. They could tell me the sky is purple and I would rather believe that. I think men with a big frame and/or some muscle underneath can carry a certain amount of fat better than women. Exactly. But in general, due to gender dimorphia, fat and softness probably suit women better than men as a general rule. I strongly…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 10:23 AM
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Some would say that given genders are roughly similar in obesity rates, this balances itself out so there is no impact. That might be true, but I just don't see it. I know far more overweight women than overweight men. And far more overweight men that carry their weight well than women. There's also the argument that even though we are more obese than ever, the most fit are more beautiful and fitter than ever That's certainly true. The obesity crisis hit us later here in Germany and when I look …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 10:04 AM
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This is so important, yes. You have to find out for yourself what really works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 09:13 AM
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Worst thing for me was the start of the second paragraph. "A guy..." So the man who paid 100k for medical bills is refered to as "a guy". Not even as friend or man. Well, still better than "some guy" or "a simp", I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 03:08 AM
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Does it really make sense to rate photoshopped pics like these?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:40 AM
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Lovely
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:39 AM
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Other twentysomethings and Chris Evans. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:33 AM
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Why would you eat nuts when you want to lose weight? They have a lot of calories.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:16 AM
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Yeah, I see. I could down several shakes a day easily. 😃 But you could make a shake and instead of drinking it, pour it in a bowl, put some oatmeal in and for example fresh banana cut in slices. It's far better at stopping cravings and does a lot of the things you mention: Natural carbohydrates, nutrients and protein. I loved it and never got tired of it when I was working out. (If you have low vitamin D levels, please think about using a supplement. Diet changes will probably not have a noticea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:06 AM
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Have you ever tried protein shakes? Sounds like they might be a good fit for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 12:51 AM
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Introverted. My best platonic female friends on the other hand were extroverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 12:35 AM
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Don't speak much Don't show much reaction to anything she says Intense eye contact without blinking Be intelligent/ fake intelligent in a way that makes her feel stupid. Move with intent and focus. I am not saying that you (general you) should do any of this and I am not saying that everything on this list is good, but that's stuff I noticed that people find intimidating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 06:39 PM
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Hypergamy confirmed 👍 /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 03:14 AM
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I can picture it. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 02:34 AM
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Oh damn... The only good thing about it is that your bf gets a chance to shine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 02:30 AM
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Didn't even know that the trailer was out. Thank you! I am 100% sure that it will be best Batman movie ever by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 02:26 AM
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You don't have to explain. You did great.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 01:10 AM
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Solid burn! 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 01:07 AM
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Find out which language is the most fun to learn and take that into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 12:59 AM
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This is like saying It kind of isn't...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 10:56 PM
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Wow, you both look great and are a cute couple! 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 10:56 PM
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One perk that comes to mind is the bigger pool of potential partners and less competition over them. Let's take a young man who is 20. He will probably look in the age range of 18-20 when he wants to find a girlfriend. (Because he doesn't want to date underage girls and because he's aware that women in general don't date younger guys). A young woman who is 20 will probably be open to date in the age range of, say, 20-25. Taking these numbers, the young woman can choose out of a pool that is twic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 10:51 PM
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Wash your hands!! 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:48 PM
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Whatever you do, wash your hands!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:59 PM
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Of course not. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 10:43 AM
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Sounds like the last band I was in. We covered Misfits, Ramones and The Clash among others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:53 AM
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But how are you supposed to gauge your own level of attractiveness as a woman? I swear dating would be a lot easier if we all had built-in SMV meters. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 09:19 PM
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bartender works well for it, I am sure it does. But do you think they would actually hire a guy with no social skills? (Genuine question)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:55 PM
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Thanks for confirming many of the points I made with actual experience. OP was obviously thinking about something that is a boot camp in name only. Like you said "camping" but with some aspects of military training.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:04 PM
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It might!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 05:52 PM
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That hit right in the feels...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 05:06 PM
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I understand boys like Charles would hate it. Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t benefit from it. It might mean exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 05:00 PM
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We do agree. Just put me in charge of the boot camp!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:17 PM
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Yes and no. : ) We had mandatory military basic training (about 10 months) here in Germany up until 2011). But you could also choose to do substitute service for example at a hospital. (That's what I did). I agree that boot camp style stuff could be absolutely awesome for young men. Done the right way. It didn't seem to do much for my friends who did basic training. (Most chose substitute service). The training regimen was not so much about getting fit, but to do physical stuff beyond exhaustion…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:11 PM
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On the opposite end of the scale, they see a person like this [...] and assume he's a nice guy. Erm... EDIT: Ok, I just googled him and he looks like a nice guy in other pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:52 PM
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Damn...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 11:50 AM
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I think I'd play it safe right now. If you hated your current job, maybe. But since you love your current job, considering the economy and stuff, I wouldn't try any stunts rn. But that's just me. You do you. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:27 AM
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Well, I get that people don't know about all the stuff speech therapists can do. If I hadn't worked at a hospital I wouldn't have known that they help people who have problems with swallowing food for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:06 AM
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And that I did!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:03 AM
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Thx! So one summer in research is enough to become disillusioned. That sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:58 AM
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Omg, why did I click that link?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:55 AM
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Out of curiosity: Did you see infighting between scientists? It really shocked me to hear stories about scientists who try to sabotage others work by ruining their reputation and whatnot. I have never been in research but those stories made me lose some trust in science.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:49 AM
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Oh, I say "I wish I had learned it earlier in life" without any regret. : ) I love that things actually become easier with experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:55 AM
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Yes, Carrie Ann Moss is good-looking but it was strange to see how women who I found way better looking than her gushing over her as if she was a goddess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:48 AM
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Well, I didn't turn it off and watched it twice. So... I was mostly just disappointed that the younger version of her character was replaced so soon. I would have liked to see another episode with young Harmon. Oh, yes, and "polarizing and interesting look" seems to be something that more women than men find attractive in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:32 AM
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Women seem to find the chick from the Matrix movies far more attractive than men do. Young Morena Baccarin might be universally attractive to everybody. EDIT: Chloë Grace Moretz seems to be more popular with women than men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:18 AM
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Maybe Anya Taylor Joy Lol, as soon as she appeared in Queen's Gambit, I wanted to turn Netflix off. I had never seen her before, but it was dislike on first sight. My sister doesn't agree. So yeah, good choice for this category. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:15 AM
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Awesome! 👍 There's really no reason to overdo it. Diminishing returns. Toll on your life and maybe even health. I wish I had learned that sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:45 AM
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I do believe in platonic friendships and I know that people genuinely want to help other people out ... but yeah, he's trying to smash.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:33 PM
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Yep. I know everyone is on my helmet about this That's the only reason I decided to chime in. 😃 Let me know if my kind of ignorant observations from Germany bore you. I'll happily shut up. It might have something to do with men not wanting to be seen as weak or seen as victims. Men might be more afraid of coming across as whiny than women. (Not saying that women actually are whiny). That might be one of the reasonswhy the mensrights activism never really got much traction. Black men might be eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:22 PM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:08 PM
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Because Black women and Black LGBT persons feel as though they are constantly and always fighting for black men but black men are the ones not giving af about them or the ones assaulting them/disrespecting them. Wow, now that you mention it... I don't know if it's interesting to you, but here in Germany the visible black rights activists are overwhelmingly female. I have read the two bestselling/most recommended German books on the topic. Both by female authors. And in state sponsored television…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:22 PM
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The only problem with the friends first, relationship later approach is that it makes breaking up over sexual incompatibility a lot harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:02 PM
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No. I am saying: Men are shamed. Women are shamed. Men and women are shamed with different shaming tactics. Shaming tactics suck. Don't shame women, don't shame men /say nice things to both of them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:59 PM
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I think /u/Slipthe was right when they said that men use it tongue-in-cheek. Like an uno reverse card that doesn't really make sense. "Who hurt you" is basically a variation of "man up!". People use "woman up" now sometimes, too, to show how dumb that phrase is. Doesn't mean that the original shaming wasn't intended to be gender-specific and that is has been used exclusively gender specificly for decades before somebody thought it might be funny to play the uno reverse card.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:36 PM
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Is it really far-fetched to think that people use gender-specific shaming tactics? "Lol, who hurt you" is aimed directly at male ego/male pride. "Lol, you must have serious daddy issues" is something that people only use on women. I am not saying that women aren't shamed or anything. I just think it's obvious that people who want to be rude try to make it more effective by taking gender into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:04 PM
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I see. First thing that came to my mind as an equivalent was: "lol, you seem to have serious daddy issues". That's something I haven't seen used against men once, but it's pretty common when people want to shame women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:31 PM
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Well, nobody is free of confirmation bias, but I'd say"who hurt you" is mostly aimed at men. I honestly can't remember seeing it thrown at a woman. Other stuff, yes. But this specific phrase, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:25 PM
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You'll be the first to know!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:09 AM
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Oh, I found her insufferable, too, but definitely more sufferable than the other woman. :D You're right that people who are not warm turn me off in real-life. And I always surrounded myself with warm people. Some notable exceptions were hard shell, soft core men and women. On screen it's different. I can find cold characters cool and attractive in movies and shows. Tbh I can't put my finger on why I really don't like her. I held counsel with my mother and my sister (who both loved the show) but …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:04 AM
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Well, he is doing cop stuff in that link!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:25 AM
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Thanks for the link. : ) Yes, she is objectively beautiful, but even in the picture, something is off. I don't know what exactly. Can't put my finger on it. Maybe it's just flashback of how much I didn't like her character in the show. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:23 AM
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The cop attractive? O.o Maybe when he was doing cop stuff. But the rest of the time? Borderline ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:17 AM
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I see. I find that sullen and cold aura really off-putting. Tbh I find the witch, erm, the lady that is always annoying everybody around her more tolerable than her. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:11 AM
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Second guy from the left in the first link. : ) His name in the show is Sang-Woo. The "Wall Street"- guy. Childhood friend of the protagonist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:45 AM
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Sang-Woo or GTFO 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:38 AM
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Really? I found her insufferable through the whole show and not even that good-looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:37 AM
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That's some advice I wish I got earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:48 PM
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Ah, thanks, damn, yes, of course I remember him. Didn't know he was gay though. I am not gay but alway looking for inspiring "alpha bucks" role- models. Classy? I'll take it, lol. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:36 PM
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Well, I don't know what Bartha means and the google results are, erm, inconclusive. But if you meant to ask "did you have a serious man-crush on Sang-Woo" then the answer is yes. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:18 PM
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I am pleb and don't understand philosophical concepts of morality. Fully agree that "they have agency, it's their decision, therefore not my problem, I am not to blame" is pretty lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:00 PM
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Oh wow, "mood" is probably the word I was looking for when I was thinking about what made him ridiculously attractive. Charismatic alone wouldn't cut it for how I saw him. Presence, yes, that was obvious to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:38 PM
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Interesting how the business guy actor looks waaaay less interesting in the picture than he does in the movie. And less attractive in my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:26 PM
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I wouldn't call it "morally obligated" but it would be a good decision. And I'd say they shouldn't keep it platonic. Best course of action would probably be to end the friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:18 PM
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That guy? I get the attraction to charismatic/attractive thugs. But he was ugly and didn't even have a commanding presence, charisma or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:08 PM
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Yeah, I didn't mean only r/theredpill. Just red pill views in general. People will be more open to embrace red pill views in times of crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:06 PM
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I haven't been in a bar fight in ages because it works so well, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:02 PM
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Average men who would be getting some sex aren't getting any and Not for that reason, but yes. Anything that affects society negatively and on a large scale like the pandemic will have a red-pilling effect on many people. Be it war, an economic crisis or a pandemic. Look at poor/struggling countries. People there are mostly red pilled. Look at poor/struggling minorities or just poor/struggling lower-class. Red pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:19 PM
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How about: Good luck with that! 🥳✊👍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:09 PM
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Yeah, I do. I mean, I do think that yes and I do give off that vibe. People are always surprised when I switch into "don't mess with me"- mode. I wish I could find that sweet spot where people still find me approachable but somehow see that I am not a doormat (and someone you don't want to fight physically).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:58 PM
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I agree with a lot of what you say. The problem is men who think they are nice are just passive doormats with zero self esteem. That's how I was raised to think. Basically, I would have thought that "people pleaser" was a compliment without a negative connotation back then. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:32 PM
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In previous generations, age-gap couples were much more common than they are now, ask your grandparents how many 10+ year age gap couples they knew when they were young (it’ll be a lot). Can't confirm. Anecdotally it was the complete opposite. No delayed marriage meant most of the people married young and in the same age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:53 PM
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> stay super lean Mad respect. I wouldn't have thought that it's possible to basically look like Gina Gerson for forever but you pull it off. That's commendable. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:49 PM
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also I haven't read or watched that crap. I did. For science. In short: I wouldn't have had to read it because it is exactly how I pictured it. And probably how you picture it, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:43 PM
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It fits in so far as most people would agree that puberty really sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:58 AM
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I’ve slept with over 30 women in my life but have only claimed 4 of them 😃. Is that a normal expression? Do people talk like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:44 PM
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Exactly. I can't tell and unlike years ago I will not even try to make an educated guess anymore. Nature further exarcerbated by societal reinforcements sounds perfectly reasonable. For me it's as good a reason as any.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 12:45 AM
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After over a decade of soul-searching and pondering the question "what exactly turned me into the blue pill guy I was", I can now say with confidence: "No idea."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 12:09 AM
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Well tbf, TheBluePill is a parody sub. So you can't really compare them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:42 PM
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Oh, no... : (
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:38 PM
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Any woman I know who is at minimum a 6/10 has spent over thousands of dollars on their looks, and some even tens of thousands. You know, I love hearing about stuff like this with women in real-life. It's just sad that the well is so poisoned that you can rarely have a relaxed exchange about the difference between the male and female experience online.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:32 PM
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I thought it was a typo or something. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:26 PM
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No worries. Poe's law and all. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:20 PM
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Do you really think... Of course not. 😃 I was quoting the feminist "losing privilege feels like blablabla""- nonsense ironically in the first place AND I used it to describe women losing their privilege. Not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:12 PM
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The gist of what I am trying to say is: There is all kinds of mandatory "sympathy and empathy". The bulk of it falls on privileged men. Exactly the "you are the winner so you HAVE to pay, you HAVE to empathise, you HAVE to take responsibility, you HAVE to educate yourself about their problems..." It explains the reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:08 PM
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Agree again. There's lots of factors. I still think if we took 500 non-overweight women and 500 non-overweight men and put 45 pounds on each of them, the group of women would go down in looks more than the men. But I concede that I am talking from my personal experience and thinking of people I see in real-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:02 PM
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Yeah, true. I agree. I was thinking of overweight and chubby people when I said "can still look masculine" in that paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:54 PM
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I am not supporting taxes to the 1% in trillion dollars wars and tax forgiveness. So no. That wasn't the gotcha I was looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:44 PM
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Yeah, well, I don't really want it. Just want to see how it plays out. And then go back to the current ways with new-found appreciation for the support from privileged men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:43 PM
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The sum of women's and men's taxes being returned to the needy I'd love seeing taxes distributed by identity group. Women's taxes go to women's issues. Men's taxes go to men's issues. Minorities' taxes to minorities' issues. That would be great
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:37 PM
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I am talking about the reactions to it. Not feasible solutions to problems. These are different topics. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:33 PM
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sexual dimorphism makes fat more attractive on woman than it does on men. I think it's the opposite. A fat guy can still have broad shoulders and look manly (for lack of a better word) but most women will lose feminine qualities. A fat guy isn't the equivalent of a fat woman. The equivalent of a morbidly obese woman is a scrawny terminally-ill-skinny-looking guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:29 PM
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I don't think it's women's responsiblity to deal with that. And I'd agree. Now we just have to make "it's not men's responsibility to deal with [insert any women's issue here]" the new standard. Cut all funding for gender related stuff. I'd bet dollars to donuts that it would lead to less complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:26 PM
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Because "men have it easier" has been the narrative for decades and has only been challenged for some years now. When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. And you get defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:10 PM
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Not really acceptable because it wouldn't take much effort on her part to lose at least some pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:50 PM
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Keep fighting the good fight! 🙂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:43 PM
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I am not disagreeing with you. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:40 PM
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Yeah, but it's not as if 30+ year old men and women don't often throw "just break up" around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:39 PM
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I am really surprised by all the "just break up" advice from relationship minded people. I get that it's completely normal for plate- spinning red pillers and promiscuous people to just end a relationship and look for the next woman/man. But since when do relationship-minded people "just break up"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:34 PM
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Is it some sort of revenge fantasy? Nope. It's not a revenge fantasy. It's just revenge. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:09 PM
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There are things you can comment on mainly on a macro scale. i.e. the important stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:59 PM
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Been there. In a four year long relationship. I wouldn't blame any guy who vets for orgasm-related stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:41 PM
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😂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:59 PM
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I see. Sorry, should have read more carefully. Well /u/BelieveInYourFlyness is right when he mentions the buff meme. Guys compliment each other too, like that meme about how getting buff gets men more attention from the bros than from women. Men do compliment and validate each other. In my social circle, we do that a lot. I'd say we do that far more than women do with each other. But it isn't the same as getting compliments from the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:49 PM
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Anyone who didn't? 😃 I haven't even seen the special but everybody is talking about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:33 PM
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Wow. I believe you, of course, but my experience is very different. I have talked with my female friends about compliments and they wouldn't agree with what you wrote in the first paragraph at all. This is part of why I have always talked about how lonely guys need more and more validating friendships. A lot of the women here say they don't make compliments because they are afraid that their platonic friends would see it as flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:28 PM
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Quite an achievement. 👍👍👍
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:22 PM
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Working in IT in big companies is not necessarily harder or more stressful than working in smaller companies. My brother enjoys work much more now at a big company than he did at smaller companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:11 PM
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magine a horror movie except the main character actually made all the right and smart choices Wait what?! Shut up and take my money!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:02 PM
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I read your anecdotes. Sounded familiar and that's why I decided to throw some of mine in. I was a straight A student and everybody told me I was going places. But I understood that I really didn't know shit about fuck and decided to do these odd jobs not so much because of the money but because I understood that I needed real life experience. One of the best decisions I ever made.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:56 PM
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Well, imagine a guy wasn't able to orgasm from PIV sex and could only orgasm from 15 minute blowjobs. Would you be more concerned with this if he was just an fwb or if he was your potential future husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:49 PM
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I was always doing odd jobs when I was in school. Here is what happened n only four weeks of working on a construction side. Had to apply a lot of pressure and body weight to cut a steel rod. Like an idiot I didn't take into account that I would fall when it broke. Fell and landed on my throat with my full body weight on a steel leg. Noticed I couldn't breath anymore. Told myself not to panic. Sat down and decided not to even try breathing for a minute. I just sat there like a Zen monk and waite…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:07 PM
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I mean, many people do stay together despite dead bedrooms, but yeah...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 02:52 PM
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Forget it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:43 PM
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Dude...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:40 PM
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it just requires more work. Exactly. And it can be a game-changer. Who cares about more work over short periods of time? I'd be more concerned with "more work for the rest of my life".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:34 PM
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This is more reasonable than it sounds. EDIT: It's basically choosing easy mode for "maintaining a good sex life". Nothing wrong with choosing easy mode in a specific area of life if there is an easy mode. There is enough hard mode content you can't avoid in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:32 PM
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A good sex life is much more important in a longterm relationship than in casual encounters. A bad sex life can mean the end of the relationship. Knowing that it will be much harder to maintain is a reasonable point of concern. Maybe doesn't matter in the first one or two years of the relationship. But it does make a difference down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:27 PM
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Yeah gotta try not to get attached since she's my first everything Do get attached. FFS it's your first relationship! Attaching is fun there. Enjoy it! You can always detach later.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:59 AM
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Thanks for the in-depth answer. I know the female POV regarding this very well. But do I really need to say more than that... I should be able to take you at your unspoken word ...there is a slight structural flaw here?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:46 AM
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Haha, awesome :D
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:22 PM
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People meeting people through those they already know Yeah, but how often does that really happen? 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:07 PM
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Different things come to mind. to hurt a horrible person for validation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:50 PM
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I think it depends on whether the woman and her friend had "the talk" yet or not. Where they openly discussed and decided to be platonic friends. And he promised that he would never make a move. It would really be a shitty move if he broke that promise. If they didn't have the talk yet, one can't blame him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:44 PM
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Is it okay if he knows that she is a horrible person and kind of deserves it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:38 PM
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I can only speak for myself but I did see them as women and treated them differently than my male friends. And if they had not seen me as a man, I would have taken that personally. :D But you're right of course. The friendships where they don't see each other as of the opposite sex seem to be more common. And they often start earlier in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:28 PM
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They're both basically the same sex to each other. That's not how I would describe it. Everyone's experience is different of course. But I didn't think of my female friends as honorary male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:17 PM
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I don't know if it's common, but definitely possible. I always had close platonic female friends who were very important to me. It worked because even though they were attractive they were not my type. I had made it a rule long before not to stay friends with women I could crush on. Many attractive women I know wanted to have platonic friendships with men but were afraid that he would suddenly come out and say he was in love with her (or wanted to sleep with her) from the beginning. And had that…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 07:52 PM
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Atlas said that she adopted her cold reddit persona because she got swamped with private messages by lonely guys. With the incel invasion, I thought you might have gone that route, too. Is Atlas still here? I was her fanboy number one. :D You are a mom now? Omg, awesome! Heartfelt congratulations! That just made my day. 🙂 Cxj is gone? Oh man, what a great guy he was. I remember how he was predicting an incel takeover of PPD and I was like: "come on, it's just a bump in the road. They will not st…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:30 PM
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IIRC you were very active socially and I pictured you as always enjoying the ride. : ) Erm, up to and work... that's a long story. Life's been rough since I left shortly after the first purge. But I'm in a good place and enjoying peace and quiet. 🙂 What have you been up to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:35 PM
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Smokes! 🙂 I would have never guessed! Your tone is kind of different. (Looking at a few of your newer comments). Did you use deathbyathousandcats as flair back then? Because it sounds familiar but I only know you as GinSmokeLies. : ) Of course I remember! You where blue pill with some red tendencies when you came to PPD but became slightly purple over time. I know that you were from Texas because you talked about Texan mindset with another user and I had to chuckle because it reminded me so much…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:29 PM
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Doing fine, thanks. : ) How are you doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:30 AM
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Smurfs!!!! ❤ Hell yeah, I DO remember some names. I am really smiling out loud rn. So glad you're still here. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:21 AM
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Wow, I took a five year break, wondered if anybody from the old gang was still here, can barely remember any names and you remember my full username when everybody just called me Guitars. Awesome. :D Hi, Cats! Good to see you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:43 PM
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I asked because you might be able to relate with them more on the "not in a relationship"- part. Being a virgin is completely different for men and women while "never had a bf/gf" isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:06 PM
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Are you in a relationship? The virgin part is not as bad as the "never had a girlfriend"- part.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:01 PM
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Good point. I'd have to do some soul-searching on this one. I only had to drive 1 hour, but it was strenous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:10 PM
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Ah, I see. Nothing weird about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 09:48 PM
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Just go ahead and watch it! I have watched it three times. With my brother, my sister and with my mum. If I had more siblings, I'd be up for watching it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 09:41 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 09:01 PM
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Exactly. The point is you wouldn't call her immature and insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:40 PM
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Thank you. 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:39 PM
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You're right. Whether you like it or not OP is actually making a case for dating younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:33 PM
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FWIW, I can totally relate to what he says. I always at least tried to. I would have seen anything else as slacking off and unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:31 PM
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Lol, for real. I don't understand how they can really see it as gotcha stuff. It's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:24 PM
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Proposal? Eh, that one I'll give you: I ain't marrying anyone ever again But let me guess: You wouldn't hold it against her if she was sad and jealous? You would understand that it sucks for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:20 PM
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You see it differently because you are a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:58 PM
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YES! Exactly. That's exactly what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:55 PM
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It's not stupid. But men and women seem to perceive it so differently that it's pointless to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:51 PM
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Yes. Yes, sounds completely logical to me. Disclaimer: I don't think women would actually want the kind of simping I did when I was 16. The simping I did at 22 was solid and I kept that level of simping up through all of my relationships. EDIT: It's funny. I never actually had the "she did it with her ex but not with me"- problem in any of my relationships. It still riles me up because the arguments by women here show that women perceive relationship stuff completely differently on a fundamental…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:45 PM
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Let's be generous and say only 3/4 of women are in relationships or otherwise out of the dating market. People underestimate how much this affects the male dating experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:21 PM
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If I put an attractive guy in a dark bathroom shirtless selfie holding a [...] 😂😂😂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:41 PM
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Truer words have never been spoken.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:58 PM
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Sounds awesome. That's a win in my book. Being completely open about it without being negative. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:56 PM
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True. But on the other hand, weight gain can sometimes be explained and excused by circumstances. Like extreme job pressure or serious illness. Been there myself. I think I'd be more concerned with a completely unnecessary "fuck what you like"- haircut than above mentioned weight gain. Or even weight gain out of laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:54 PM
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I just thought it wouldn’t make sense to look less attractive to a girl I like. That just means you were insecure. /s 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:41 PM
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🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:36 PM
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It was always important to me that my gfs liked how I looked. So I didn't pull any stunts like this. And for example let my hair grow out in one relationship because she liked it better. My gfs looked at me way more often than I looked at myself in the mirror. So it was a no-brainer for me. I know that many people find that strange or whatever. I don't understand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:11 PM
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I don’t think girls like having their ass ate anyways, You might be onto something...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:02 AM
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Absolutely fair. It sounds completely insane to me. I honestly can't read what I wrote out loud without chuckling. It's wrong on so many levels (if you are a relationship minded person) that I really don't know what to say anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 06:53 AM
5

The correct PPD-style answer is: "It means that he doesn't meet my standards. I don't compromise on my standards so I'll just break up with him and find me another guy who is attractive, socially successful, has a good job, potential to climb up the career ladder, is athletic and funny. AND likes to go down on me. Doesn't have anything to do with his past."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 06:25 AM
1

I agree 100%. 🙂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:53 AM
0

And I did agree that it's probably not good when unexperienced men (the ones you address with this post) start their journey into dating as misogynists with negative energy and AWALT horror stories in the back of their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:45 AM
3

Ah, I see. Sorry, I should have scrolled up and read the initial comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:31 AM
6

You're welcome to. EDIT: I see not accepting stuff like this as drawing healthy boundaries. Not as insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:13 AM
1

I don't understand where you are going with this, sorry. :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:45 AM
0

I honestly wonder how much of any of those stories are real. The shit I've seen. 😃 I have no problems with healthy misogyny. But it should be earned through real-life experience and then expanded through further reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:08 AM
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Why don't you get it? There are two scenarios: Scenario A: You don't get xy out of your relationship because your gf doesn't want to do it. GF has never done xy. Scenario B: You don't get xy out of your relationship because your gf doesn't want to do it AND you hate that her ex was more important to her and that he is rofling because you are the sucker that goes without xy while he got it. Scenario B is worse than scenario A. Now, of course, some people might tolerate neither A nor B. But there …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:04 AM
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I kind of agree. It depends on age and experience. I am glad that I started with classic PUA stuff ages ago and a "sky's the limit"- mindset with no negative energy at all. I really don't think being an angry phase red piller without actual relationship experience and tons of AWALT horror stories would have helped me at that point in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 02:29 AM
3

Of course, that is the solution. 😃 But there's always somebody who profits from increasing costs and low wages. And that's why we can't have nice things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:46 AM
2

she used to do it with an ex, but oh you don't need to do that, she's totally happy with the sex she's getting from you! That means: I got a better deal than her ex. She expected him to suffer more for the relationship than me. And that means, I'd probably marry her. Oh, and yeah, think about giving pegging a try. Happily ever after!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:01 AM
1

But if you wanted it that badly, why would you accept a woman who didn't do it at all? Because it's not like you can just break up and find another great woman like her who additionally just happens to be into the kink you are looking for around the corner. Like why would it make it better if she didn't do it with an ex? Well, that's obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:57 AM
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we have women working now so men have to put in half as much work. Seems like a good distribution. In theory, yes. In practice, no. Housing prices rising and stuff. A family on a single income today can't afford the same life-style as a family on a single income 50 years ago. And this is going to become much worse. And we will see the old forms of hypergamy again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:48 PM
1

Yes, really!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:35 PM
2

Yeah, I think the term makes more sense in cases like yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:25 PM
1

Man, that sounds really interesting. Did the footage of the disabled drone help you to structure the plea? Like, if he hadn't hit it with the tuna can, would he be worse off now?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:21 PM
1

And I always thought action movies were exaggerating. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:33 PM
1

Good question. Well, I have seen both. Anecdotally, most of the women who are very hypergamous in terms of physical attraction are ugly lower class women who date within their class. Instead of trying to find a men who makes more money they go for a good-looking guy. There are some seriously mismatched couples. But I have not thought about it much. That's just off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:16 PM
3

Probably because hypergamy in terms of physical attractiveness is a relatively new phenomenon. There's a shift and people are talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:27 PM
4

😂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:18 PM
1

Awesome. Keep us posted on Gallon Milk Guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:03 PM
3

You're right. His experience is definitely not representative of the average T guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:39 PM
3

Sounds like I really need to have my T levels checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:23 PM
1

😂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:21 PM
3

Basically just focusing on yourself for a while. I really doubt anybody would see that as a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:18 PM
3

Endorphin explains it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:16 PM
2

I know. My brother drew a lot, too. But if I hadn't had insight into his drawing practice sessions I would have seriously questioned his reference collection. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:08 PM
2

And who are the completionists and who prefers any% speedruns? 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:52 PM
3

Now, that's an "it's not what it looks like" if there ever was one. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:40 PM
6

Good to know. My first reaction was "being celibate for a while is not a red flag. But using the word celibate probably is."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:22 PM
12

Do people actually use the word "celibate" instead of just saying something like "not seeing anyone atm" or "not looking for sex right now"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:14 PM
2

🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:05 PM
3

Not the hill I'd choose to die on. : ) The 1-10 scale is difficult to work with in the first place, everybody disagrees on what a 6 for example is and people use "decent looking" differently... you can't win there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 03:58 PM
3

I always thought that decent looking means that you can't find major flaws or dealbreakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 03:35 PM
3

I agree. Accept it and move on. If you consider yourself red pill that is. The red pill viewpoint should be: "Explain. Don't complain."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 12:34 PM
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I don't know if I would do it. What I do know is that if I decided to sleep with her, I wouldn't complain about it afterwards and I wouldn't try to explain to people who she turned down with a "You? No, not even with a paperbag on" how I am somehow worse off than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 03:37 AM
3

Afterwards she wants nothing to do with you. Wow! Where's the catch? There must be a catch, right? /jk
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 02:41 AM
1

😂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 02:38 AM
1

So a woman has sex with you, but you know that she finds you repulsive, but she goes "ehh whatever" and fucks you out of horniness, and you know that afterwards she'll probably feel some degree of shame. She (figuratively or literally) wants to put a paper bag over your head. How would this make you feel, exactly? Sounds like a script for a porn scene. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:57 AM
6

Well, I think the 44yo ex-pornstar linked in OP would qualify as "experienced". :D
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:31 PM
1

😂😂😂 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:28 PM
0

Oops, fixed it. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:24 PM
2

No point in thinking about it until you know what costumes she wants to you two to wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:16 PM
14

Yes, you are in a bubble. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:15 PM
35

There might be a difference in quality and quantity but let's not pretend that there aren't lots of men who do try to get back at their ex-girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:08 PM
11

Or that. As long as he breaks up with her it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:40 PM
2

Wow. Nice to hear from somebody who has insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:45 PM
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I like that he's honest about it. Now break up with her and date younger women. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:40 PM
2

Definitely MCU version. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:26 PM
2

In order to be paid disability insurance, it must be obvious that the disability directly came from working. Insurance companies (both private and state insurance here in Germany) use that a lot to get out of paying. "It's not clear that your bad back is the result of your job. No money for you." I don't know if insurance is better in other countries. Well. The tiler is practically disabled and in constant pain, but since he was smart, he gets insurance money so everything is fine, right? Person…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:25 PM
2

Hawkeye!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:13 PM
5

That and what if prostitution was essential?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:14 PM
4

The problem with the solution is that it selects for shitty customers. Every customer will be somebody who is willing to break the law. Raising the probability that bad stuff happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:05 PM
1

The two main reasons: Fear that she was forced into prostitution. Either by poverty or pimps. The romantic mindset of "sex is special". Often just a "paying for sex is wrong"-mindset without without even thinking about it. Chads on the other hand say "it's just sex". You could say that the mindset that makes them fail on the dating market also makes them refuse paying for sex. Money definitely isn't an issue for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:44 PM
1

You could be right, too, of course. : ) We are obviously just making educated guesses. German men are quite desirable Well, thank you. :D I can't really agree. Lots of effeminate beta guys here. I know lots of 30+ male virgins. From years on PPD, I have the impression that the dating experience isn't that different here. People who have experience in both dating markets mostly say that American women have higher financial standards but that German women are less approachable. Feminism is very po…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:18 PM
2

I agree that there would be differences. But the influence on social culture is practically zero here so even if prostitution had 10 times more impact in the US it would still be zero.😃
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:41 PM
3

Well it is legal here and there is no discernible effect on social culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:03 PM
3

Interesting. Thanks. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:02 PM
11

Yup. Just ask any tiler who had three ruptured discs working for decades with constant pain until he retired as basically a disabled guy. I have no problem with people who think of the issues of both prostitutes and tilers. But more often than not, the tiler isn't taken into account in these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:59 PM
2

🙂 I find it interesting, too. I don't have a dog in the fight but it's like a challenging puzzle. Definitely not easy to solve.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:49 PM
3

I haven't. Have you, gimpgirl?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:48 PM
5

Maybe not really an opposing argument but determining which regulations are needed isn't easy. And for some reasons, prostitutes are often ignored in the discussions. One example are so called "flatrate brothels". Men pay an entrance fee and can have as much sex with different prostitutes as they want. (Or more realistically: can). Politicians banned it because the idea of "all you can fuck" was too egregious, degrading and misogynistic. But prostitutes said that the flatrate was a blessing. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:34 PM
1

Interesting. Never been to the Reeperbahn. Sounds like it's more stressful than fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:11 PM
5

I wish. Prostitution is legal where I live. None of my beta friends visits prostitutes. Chads do. EDIT: I lied. One of my beta friends does.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:25 PM
3

Mind. Blown. 🙂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:00 PM
10

Let's see how it plays out. 👍 In my opinion we don't need any efforts. Widespread male IDGAF is inevitable. 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:39 PM
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You have to take into account that the effectiveness of shaming tactics seems to be decreasing. I am expecting rising IDGAF levels of apocalyptic proportions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:32 PM
2

Oh dear. 😕 Is everything better now? Or is it still a strain on your marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:14 PM
5

Lol, a friend just told me about a week ago that his left leaning girlfriend said "I am not sure if I can be with somebody who votes for [a center-right party]". He doesn't like that she's left-leaning but he doesn't really care. So, yeah, that's one anecdote for your theory that left-leaning people care more about the political views of their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:43 PM
-1

Yes, it's immoral. Doesn't mean it's terrible or that you shouldn't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:30 PM
2

No, never.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:29 PM
2

👍
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 05:38 PM
1

Voluntarily staying single forever and not having kids because of health issues is a reasonable choice. If you decide to go for it I'd be the last to blame you. : ) Just know that women in their 20s have much more patience with health issues. Women in their 30s will judge you more harshly and more of them will see health issues as a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:49 PM
1

my current approach... Change that approach and try to find a partner as soon as possible. Dating with health issues in your 20s is a lot easier than dating with health issues in your 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:23 PM
2

Pushing past your limits is overrated in my experience. Pushing your limits slightly is enough. There's no need to go all in. Diminishing returns. Work with your body type and personality. Not against them. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:47 PM
2

Sign me up for the study!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:17 PM
1

I was exaggerating a bit. I do appreciate all kinds of compliments. : ) To answer your question: For self-confidence. Definitely. No romantic interest needed at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:23 PM
3

Sounds like you're doing fine. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:02 PM
2

Awesome! "Being a man is difficult, we carry something dark in our souls" resonates with me. When I read the book "Pet Sematary" by Stephen King as a young teenager I was fascinated by a dialogue where an old guy says: "The soil of a man's heart is stonier, Lewis". I didn't really understand what he wanted to say, but it resonated deeply with me and does to this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:22 PM
1

Well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:12 PM
2

That must have hurt. : ( I mean I understand where he is coming from, but still. One of my ex-gfs was the same. She didn't outright say it but she did appreciate compliments from strangers more than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:10 PM
3

True. But what I wanted to say is that it happens enough even without any compliments involved. Even without getting any compliments from a woman, many men will complain about the friend zone or whatever and turn the woman into the bad guy. Whenever it happens, we can't know whether it was because of this one compliment or just because she was around him. He would have probably acted the exact same without the compliment. That's why I think the effectiveness of a no looks-based compliments appro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:53 PM
3

That's understandable. On the other hand, I wonder how dangerous it really is. Considering that a lot of men can hamster "she is talking to me" into "she is into me", I wonder how much damage a single looks-based compliment will do in the grand scheme of things. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:40 PM
1

Seconded.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:36 PM
1

Haha, that's why I file most of the competency based compliments under "she doesn't want to give me a real compliment. So I got that one." 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:34 PM
1

Rise of the "far-right": Am I a joke to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 05:37 PM
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