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| 9 | Discuss whether TRP has misandristic elements. | I_LOVE_CAPTION_BOT | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/13 09:16 PM |
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| 9 | Discuss whether TRP has misandristic elements.Exceptions don't disprove the rule. They do if you claim it as universal. Sorry. Some rare, primitive society societies where women are in charge doesn't either. They do if you claim it as universal. Sorry. Who built this world into what it is today? Western civilization, Dat imperialism. we are the pinnacle of human achievement, except we're not perfect, we have flaws, some self-destructive ones too. Why should we not strive to correct those flaws? Your moral relativism is cute, but that's abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/13 06:21 PM |
| 5 | Discuss whether TRP has misandristic elements.Actually, I said We see TRP praising murderers for their dark triad traits and you restated this argument as TRP condone[s] murdering people so I changed murdering to "murderers" in an attempt to remind of you my original argument. Uh no, stating an observation like "there are women who seem to attracted to killers" is not the same thing as saying "you should go kill people". However, this shows you have intentionally sabotaged and misrepresented the arguments. Goodbye. Exactly, so then we agree… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/13 04:52 PM |
| 3 | Discuss whether TRP has misandristic elements.Uh-huh, sure, of course you don't condone murderers, of course I'm making it up... I said respect was indeed something that would be revoked accordingly on negatively impacting choices. I meant what I said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/13 04:43 PM |
| 8 | Discuss whether TRP has misandristic elements.Sorry. You interpret sexual ethics from a Western perspective, ultimately from Abrahamic religions and traditions. It won't fly here. Have you ever heard of the Nayar people? Sex ain't a big deal to them. The kids don't know who their fathers are. Yet their society operates just fine. That's not to say sexual relationships there are socially unapproved (by which I mean, they all have multiple husbands and wives. The men there are travelling mercenaries. Yet they don't care that they're sharing. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/13 10:30 AM |
| 6 | Discuss whether TRP has misandristic elements.Have you looked into the implication there, though? Alpha - an outdated term for top dog. Beta - anything below. The implication is that "alphas" are more valuable than "betas". By doing this, one reduces the state of men you don't approve of from "human being" down to "letter of the alphabet". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/13 07:24 AM |
| 4 | Discuss whether TRP has misandristic elements.Why are some values artificial to you, but others are biological? As for women chasing after others, we've been through that; see above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/13 07:10 AM |
| 6 | Discuss whether TRP has misandristic elements.Oh, but frankly it is. I view respect as something that is provided, but then revoked. You cannot turn to the world and tell it "earn my respect!" because guess what? The world is a little more ruthless than that. At least try to face it in a healthy manner. Choices such as mass murdering affect people in a negative way. Therefore it is undeserving of respect. Choices such as a man wearing a dress in a casual situation doesn't affect anyone in a negative way. Therefore it shouldn't impact respec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/13 04:49 AM |
| 3 | Discuss whether TRP has misandristic elements.Fuck yes! This. You gotta rant more when you're tired. You even fulfilled the criterion of my title. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/13 11:19 PM |
| 12 | Discuss whether TRP has misandristic elements.I don't speak for them; that's not my thought process. You have created a false dichotomy between TRP and Not TRP. And you created one between All Nature and All Nurture. I'm asking to discuss if TRP endorses misandry, not if feminism does. I never mentioned feminism. For that reason you aren't particularly debatable. Sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/13 11:10 PM |
| 14 | Discuss whether TRP has misandristic elements.People who conform to their gender role are fine provided they don't shame others. If you think I'm laying some kind of smack down on masculinity and housewifery, I ain't. Sorry. TRP demonstrably calls outliers "betas", which is shaming them. That is my issue, so forget all the other shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/13 10:50 PM |
| 3 | Discuss whether TRP has misandristic elements.Could we get a rule banning gender speculation, I wonder? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/13 10:27 PM |
| 4 | Discuss whether TRP has misandristic elements.There is a narrow definition of masculinity though. Not necessarily. In this context, masculine means "of a man". There are alternative masculine identities such as "nerd", "emo", "athletic", "artistic", "musician", "lad", new identities that are masculine by the virtue of being adopted by what you might call a subculture of men. But to call all of those "beta" and to only have "alpha" as an acceptable masculine identity is unhealthy for society and for young men in general who are already under… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/13 10:04 PM |
| 15 | Discuss whether TRP has misandristic elements.We discuss misogyny in PPD and TBP a great deal. But let's hear one for the boys. We have men in TBP. I have male friends. I have a brother and a father I love dearly who made me who I am today. I'm so proud of them. And I should probably start this post before I get soppy. First I'm going to explain how I'm using the words misandry and misogyny is this context. When I talk about them, I am not referring to misogynistic or misandristic individuals. We're not talking about isolated male/female su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/13 09:18 PM |
| 1 | An open letter to Redpill...On whether feminism is about equality or not? If I asked that question, why, I would expect very different answers and a neverending debate! It comes down to the interpretation of the phrase "women's rights", I suppose. Transfeminists will say that "women's rights" means paying attention to trans women, and TERFs will say that "women's rights" means excluding trans women. Analytical feminists would say "women's rights" means helping to study and improve the overall condition of humanity and sepa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/13 10:06 PM |
| 2 | An open letter to Redpill...The situation is not conveniently reducible. I never said it was. But this does not mean than an attempt to condense it into one baseline is futile - for example, if I asked you to define science. one would have to know the details of the operation of the search algorithm as well as differentiate between the intent of the entered items, which would be impossible to determine (i.e. searching for something you disagree with, searching for something that you're joking about, etc.). The point is not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/13 09:32 PM |
| 2 | An open letter to Redpill...An active occurrence? Your wish is my command. A campaign from UN Women raising awareness about misogyny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/13 09:01 PM |
| 3 | An open letter to Redpill...They were actively advocating women's rights. It is arguably the most famous and fundamental example of feminism. It overlaps with the aforementioned dictionary definition. Because of this, I don't regard the dictionary definition as unreasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/13 08:55 PM |
| 2 | An open letter to Redpill...The Suffragists got votes for women by working in munitions factories and proving they could in fact do dangerous work and make a worthwhile contribution to the war despite being barred socially and legally from the frontline. I think this is an example of advocating women's rights, because those women were feminists and they wanted the right to vote so they worked in munitions to achieve them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/13 08:45 PM |
| 5 | An open letter to Redpill...The name is an identifier to associate with the group. No, it's to associate with a movement that's about women's rights. It's a broadly spread movement as you said, so "group" doesn't really sit well. You think a Marxist feminist would wanted to be associated with a Conservative feminist, or vice versa? Would a transfeminist want to be grouped with a separatist feminist or a TERF, or vice versa? Hell no. But if we all found something to agree on, it would be "women's rights", so that's the base… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/13 07:55 PM |
| 2 | An open letter to Redpill...If we asked everyone to agree on a definition for a social movement they may or may not agree with, do you think we would get very far? I agree the movement is broad. We have Marxist feminists, conservative feminists, third wave feminists, TERFs, analytical feminists, structuralist feminists, functionalist feminists, etc., but would you agree they all come down to the baseline of "women's rights"? If you do not accept a dictionary definition of something, then I am uncertain of any source for a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/13 07:45 PM |
| 5 | An open letter to Redpill...https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/13 07:35 PM |
| 2 | An open letter to Redpill...A dictionary definition is intended to be balanced, simplified and succinct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/13 07:30 PM |
| 0 | An open letter to Redpill...An opinion does not exert much over what the movement actually is. Sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/13 06:08 PM |
| 0 | An open letter to Redpill...Yes it is as "extreme" and controversial as those things because unlike a leftist, I don't think "extreme" just means extremely not-leftist. So you were comparing it to those things after all? Thanks for clarifying, but next time just be honest with me. I can take it. Perhaps I ought to request more leverage here but on the whole I would say that being able to vote is not extreme. Communism is leftist and plenty of leftists will say it's extreme. Dictionaries are books published by human, not in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/13 05:32 PM |
| 4 | An open letter to Redpill...yes im saying the dictionary definition is ludicrous and patently political in nature. i reject it outrigh If you refuse to accept a reasonable, widely-sourced definition of something then you shouldn't debate it. and, im not COMPARING IT TO THOSE THINGS in CONTENT. i used three other controversial -isms to show how you could define anything in a neutral pleasing light that woul dmake it seem silly for people to say "im not a ________" I'm finding it hard to take your word for it because what, p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/13 05:01 PM |
| 5 | An open letter to Redpill...So you're saying the online dictionary consensus is wrong? Comparing it to racism, communism and Nazism is just you trying to reframe it in a negative light and is an incredibly dishonest tactic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/13 04:52 PM |
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