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Best post I’ve read on this sub in years
/r/TheRedPill11/12/24 10:14 PM
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I didn’t even make it through half of this post and I still lost braincells.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/23 08:10 AM
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This reads incredibly narcissistic but also quite cowardly. When faced with hardship and rough odds, rather than better yourself and rise to the challenge, you just ran away? To some shithole country where you can manipulate poor women and play life on easy mode? America is taking a dark turn but it will always be the greatest place in the world to live if you're a winner. Make no mistake, there's more obstacles than ever to living a successful life as a traditional, masculine man. But that just…
/r/TheRedPill18/04/23 03:47 AM
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o Living your life according to some fantasy novel written 2000 years ago is just as retarded as living your life according to modern woke nonsense.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/23 02:52 AM
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Why play dumb little games like a pathetic high school girl? If you focus on becoming an attractive man instead of figuring out ways to manipulate people, you'll have more success.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/23 01:18 AM
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I mean, it's never a bad idea to bounce a situation off others and get advice. However, in most cases here the answer ends up being that she just isn't into them. It's a necessary learning process for people though.
/r/seduction14/10/19 04:09 AM
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Not at all. The core of that book is about learning to be attractive to women by being honest with them and confident in who you are, rather than trying to employ tricks or be someone you aren't. This is the baseline for attracting women whether it is for something casual or long term. Once you have this down and you get some experience approaching people then you can start learning more of the practical/technical skills that will help you maximize your chances of getting laid.
/r/seduction13/10/19 05:12 PM
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First of all, don't go anywhere near the incel shit anymore. It is completely toxic and will not help anything in your life. Second, there's nothing wrong with being reserved and introverted. You can definitely still attract women while having these traits. However, you will have to learn to put yourself out there on some level. I think a good entry point for anyone trying to learn how to be better with women is to read the book Models by Mark Manson. I'd start wit that.
/r/seduction13/10/19 04:51 PM
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What are you doing when you dance with her? Likely you're not being sexual enough. If a girl comes over to dance with you, you should always be escalating. Don't do too much too fast, go for a natural progression of course, but you always want to be stimulating her and keeping her guessing on what your next move will be. Don't let the interaction get stale. Girls have a microscopic attention span at clubs because they can literally go up to anyone they want.
/r/seduction13/10/19 04:46 PM
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While I think this post means well, it feels like it's written by someone who hasn't actually been in a serious long term relationship. I don't think it's right to be thinking of a relationship as running a business. It's not that cut and dry. It's not as simple as "if you just keep working out, let her chase you, and put the toilet seat down then everything will work out". In reality, people are messy and not black and white. There will be issues you have that just don't make any sense and you …
/r/seduction13/10/19 04:33 PM
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Just consider you putting the ball in her court as you forgetting about it and moving on. If she does end up reaching out fine, but you shouldn’t reach out again. People rarely ever cancel twice for something they actually really want to go to, and if they do they will be VERY apologetic about it and will suggest a new time, which it seems she is not. Leave the ball in her court but consider her not interested and move onto the next girl.
/r/seduction13/07/19 12:44 AM
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It’s a good thing for newbs to do. It’s a good way to learn abundance mentality and that there are women out there that will fuck you. Once you get a bit better, knocking on every door doesn’t seem as appealing.
/r/seduction13/07/19 12:14 AM
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Tinder is fantastic for the top 20% of guys looks-wise. If you are in that group it is incredibly easy to get dates and sex. For everyone else it’s basically a waste of time.
/r/seduction13/07/19 12:09 AM
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They are literally completely different On Tinder you are talking to someone you know is interested in you on some level, and you’re not imposing on them in any way Cold approaching you do not know whether they are interested, and by design you are interrupting them from whatever they were doing previously That’s not to say you shouldn’t cold approach- learning cold approaching is basically the most important part of seduction. It seems your goal here is to encourage people to approach which is …
/r/seduction13/07/19 12:08 AM
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Your post shows a low understanding of how attraction dynamics actually work. At the end of the day, men and women anywhere nearly always end up dating people who are in their range SMV-wise. That's just how the cards fall. There is no incentive for someone with a higher SMV to date someone with a lower SMV (man or woman), thus people tend to end up with similarly-valued mates. Note that this is different for casual sex. For short term stuff, the 80-20 rule very much applies, but not just in Ame…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/19 05:34 PM
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The bay area is likely the worst big city for dating in the country.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/19 05:47 AM
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It's important to separate Tinder from reality. In the US, Tinder is a cesspool of the worst of humanity at this point. Other dating apps have much better quality- Bumble, Hinge, etc. However in other countries dating apps are a newer concept and the hot women haven't left Tinder yet. But the fact that there aren't very many hot women on tinder in the US doesn't mean there aren't any in general. Walk into any decent nightlife venue in New York, Miami, Austin, Denver, Washington DC, hell even LA,…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/19 05:44 AM
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Exactly. If you are truly horny and just need to relieve yourself jerking off is always there. But more often than not it's just your porn addiction rearing its head again.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/19 01:06 AM
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Then learn to jerk off subconsciously
/r/TheRedPill17/06/19 12:12 AM
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Learn to jerk off without porn.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/19 05:57 PM
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You need to learn about social norms and cues. That is step zero of learning how to talk to women. There are tactful, socially acceptable ways to show your interest to women and you clearly not doing anything like that. You need to learn how to tell when a girl is uncomfortable and if she is, how to change your behavior. Just the fact that you were getting drunk in the day and trying to approach women lets me know that you are really far off the base of knowing what is acceptable. I get that you…
/r/seduction03/06/19 08:01 PM
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I don’t think you know what the term hypergamy means
/r/TheRedPill24/04/19 12:41 AM
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It’s true that being bold is important, but it isn’t everything in game. It’s more like the ticket to entry. Everyone with good game should be bold, but there’s way more to it than just approaching everyone you see. I think we all know a couple guys who go for the extreme numbers game approach, get rejected by literally 100 girls in one night, and finally find one single one willing to go with them. This brute force approach does work for finding a living, breathing woman that wants to have sex …
/r/seduction18/04/19 09:14 PM
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Do some research online for a well-reviewed program that matches your fitness goals. There are programs out there specifically designed for losing fat, gaining muscle, and anything in between. Just make sure to do your due diligence since there is a lot of BS out there. Also, if you are a beginner, you want to make sure to learn how to do the exercises with perfect form. This will help you avoid injury get better gains.
/r/seduction17/04/19 03:41 AM
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Thanks for this post, it's a very important reminder. While it's not going to get you the girl on it's own, being in shape is probably the single best thing you can do for your game, and is up there with the top things you can do to improve your life in general. Being in shape commands a level of respect that frankly nothing else matches. It's something that you have to legitimately earn- you can't buy or cheat your way into it. When you are in shape not only will girls respect you more, but eve…
/r/seduction16/04/19 04:18 AM
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Congrats and keep it up, don’t listen to the jealous losers here
/r/seduction11/04/19 08:05 PM
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You’ve been, in my opinion, going about seduction all wrong. You’re trying to be something you’re not, which is a trap many guys fall into. As you said, this tactic may work for getting one night stands or other cheap connections, but it won’t lead you to fulfilling connections or long term happiness. The first part of learning how to properly be attractive is to realize that you are enough. You don’t need to be someone else. This doesn’t mean that you don’t need to make any changes- you should …
/r/seduction06/04/19 09:21 PM
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I wouldn't just try to seduce her normally and bring in your FWB at the last second. This puts a lot of pressure on you to get the job done and also risks throwing off the rhythm at the last second by adding in the friend. For threesomes the seduction should take place in the group setting of the three of you. This makes it a lot easier because the threesome idea will be planted in her head from the beginning. It makes it a much less conventional seduction scenario and more along the lines of so…
/r/seduction10/02/19 01:04 AM
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No place here? Is this supposed to be some sort of safe space for being a shitty person? What he is doing is a waste of time. It in no way improves who you are as a man or as a person. Morals aside, it’s a stupid thing to do.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/18 08:30 PM
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Lmfao. Instead of putting so much effort into literally scamming girls into having sex with you, why don't you direct that effort towards actually improving yourself? Attracting women is not rocket science. Maybe instead of writing a 35 page ebook on this depraved bullshit you could focus on hitting the gym, reading some books, and getting a decent-paying job. You don't need to do something sociopathic like this to get your dick wet. But hey, congrats on making the world an objectively worse pla…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/18 08:04 PM
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Good points. Only one I would disagree with is the politics part. A right wing nut is just as bad as a liberal/SJW/whatever. In "this day and age", any intelligent person will see the pros and cons of both sides.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/18 07:42 AM
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Lol wait a minute. Are you trying to make fun of the other guy for being high value and having girls approach him? Wtf? Just because hot girls never approach you doesn't mean they don't approach anyone.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/18 07:37 AM
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When both people are drunk it is a case by case basis. In this case, even if OP was drunk (which I doubt) he was clearly sober enough to see that she was FUCKED up. Rape? Who knows. A seriously despicable thing to do? Definitely.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/18 07:23 AM
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Obviously we will never know the whole story. I'm not trying to say it for sure wasn't consensual, but even if OP was drunk he was at least sober enough to know that she was insanely drunk. Overall the scenario just lines up with what OP's post makes his character out to be. He seems to be just kind of a scummy, low value dude who is trying to use RP principles to rationalize getting rejected.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/18 07:17 AM
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Call it what you want, he clearly took advantage of a blackout drunk girl. That’s a scummy thing to do no matter what. Says a lot about what kind of person OP is.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/18 04:48 AM
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First off, you need to drop all thoughts that your looks are the problem here. Believe me, you look average at worst. Maybe even slightly above average. Aspergers is a tough hand to be dealt, but it's not insurmountable. I know people with aspergers who have dated multiple girls and found great long-term relationships. I promise you if you work at it enough you can get there too. The first and most important step is to love yourself first. How can you convince someone else you are awesome if you…
/r/seduction04/11/18 07:17 AM
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Lmao you should never try to “amog” another guy. Especially one that seems to have higher SMV than you. No easier way to look like an insecure loser.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/18 10:06 AM
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Many people are saying to just ask her to fuck. I wouldn't go with that. Most girls won't say yes to such a proposal, even if they are interested, because it will make them feel like a slut. They want it to happen "naturally" so they have their sweet, sweet plausible deniability. You need to ask her to "hang out". Don't call it a date. Ask her to grab a drink one night. Throughout the date, keep flirting with her but make sure to include playful touching and eye contact (look up kino if you want…
/r/seduction27/08/18 04:56 PM
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First of all, congrats on being sober. That's a big win. When you talk to women you don't need a bunch of common interests. You just need to listen well about what she is interested in, and have passions of your own to speak about as well. If you want something more concrete, look up "conversation threading" on google. You said you had no success on tinder/OKC, etc. Do you have good pictures and a good profile on these sites? Those are key to getting matches. Also, how is your appearance? Do you…
/r/seduction27/08/18 04:49 PM
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Right on!
/r/seduction27/08/18 04:39 PM
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Lol, or maybe just don't be in a relationship with someone if you want to fuck others, and don't mess around with people that are in one? Jesus... That's a good philosophy if you want to eventually get shot by some angry dude. You never know what the other guy will do. There are plenty of single women out there.
/r/seduction27/08/18 04:37 PM
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There's a difference, as I said in the original post, because if she says one those things and you still convince her to get with you, it won't involve her doing the shittiest thing imaginable (cheating on someone, even if they are fake). I'm not saying that it's not possible to get someone to cheat on their "boyfriend", clearly it is, but if you push forward after they drop the boyfriend line, you are going against their actual interest and not just facing a shit test.
/r/seduction27/08/18 04:34 PM
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Lmfao
/r/seduction27/08/18 04:26 PM
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Never fuck without a condom, that goes without saying. LMR is always tough. The key to getting through it is to not make her feel pressured while still keeping thing the mood light and sexy and showing that you are still interested in sex. Perhaps in your second attempt at escalation you went a bit too fast? If she has not responded your follow up text, I'd send her just one more text and if there is still no response, cut your losses and move on.
/r/seduction27/08/18 06:18 AM
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To those saying it's a shit test- "I have a boyfriend" is not a shit test. It is truly only said when they want you to fuck off. A shit test is something meant to bust your balls, or to attempt to throw you off in order to test your frame. It's made to be passed. An example would be "do you say this to all girls?" or "I don't go home with guys I don't know". "I have a boyfriend" is different. It is not a test meant to be passed. No girl wants to be viewed as someone who cheats on their boyfriend…
/r/seduction27/08/18 06:06 AM
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I like the idea of vetting but why write all this up for some girl who was basically a 0/10? I'd like to see a post like this where the answer wasn't in your face the entire damn time. Your "brilliant takeway" here was don't fuck a meth head with 3 kids.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/18 07:36 PM
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I this idea overall, much better to be direct than to just ignore her and hope for an apology or whatever. Only thing I will caveat this with is that if she opens up to you about her problems, don't try to solve them or get involved. Trying to do so could put her off by you coming off too serious, or the reverse could happen and she could start falling for you romantically, which (I assume) you do not want. Just be a good listener and then cheer her up with some awesome sex.
/r/seduction19/07/18 02:56 PM
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It seems the pickup "meta" nowadays is much more centered around nightgame, online dating, and social circle game. Daygame is obviously still possible, but I would say those other avenues will bring you better results on average. Also, just a thought- you might want to be careful telling people (even on reddit) that you are applying to a top MBA program while you are talking about pickup, or while you are trying to pick up a girl. You never know who could be listening, and pickup is still not vi…
/r/seduction12/05/18 03:31 AM
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Confused as to why you thought her LMR was still there after she grabbed your arm. That moment seemed like she was ready for you to kiss her and move on to sex. Were there other things about her body language that said she wasn't ready? Because the way you described it, it sounds like you psyched yourself out of a great opportunity. You pulled back which is a valid technique, but generally something that is only used after your escalation gets rejected. Instead you pulled back at the exact momen…
/r/seduction10/05/18 10:47 PM
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It's worth a shot to go back. While it is hard to have success with girls who are working, it is definitely possible. Funnily enough, I have been in this exact same situation (girl working at a Smoothie shop) and I ended up getting her number. Just be cognizant of her job. Don't go at a busy time, and make sure her boss isn't around or someone else that's going to be nosy.
/r/seduction10/05/18 10:38 PM
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Ehh it depends. What is certain is that you are eliciting some strong emotion from them. This could be attraction, but they could also just be embarrassed or feeling awkward. Pay attention to other things that they do to find out which it is. Do they seem happy to be around you? Are they showing any of the other typical "I'm interested" signs? Usually there is more than one indicator. Also it is good that you are noticing such things. Body language is everything.
/r/seduction10/05/18 10:30 PM
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I mean for friends or for a girl you have been seeing a while it's a different story. Obviously you're not going to just drop them if they are bad at responding sometimes. This is more for scheduling dates with girls you have just met. I wouldn't say it is overthinking it, if anything it is making it as simple as possible. If they can't be bothered or need to be reminded to respond to you, the connection you made with them probably isn't all that strong. Best not to force the issue and move on t…
/r/seduction10/05/18 10:21 PM
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You can have great, casual flings with girls without leading them on or just "not mentioning it." There are many girls out there who are looking for the same thing you are at this point your life. Your initial job is to make the date sexual from as early on as possible. Lots of flirting, kino, eye contact, etc. You don't have to have sex on the first date (although it never hurts), but you should definitely kiss them and leave them wanting more. By the end of the second date you should be in bed…
/r/seduction10/05/18 06:30 PM
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Not sure if infinite patience is the right thing to preach. My thinking is that if she is 3 days late responding (or something like that) one time, she gets a pass. It could be a one off. If it happens again, two strikes and she's out. Life is short, no need to waste your time on someone who isn't interested enough in you to take one minute to send a text.
/r/seduction10/05/18 06:11 PM
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Meeting up that long from now is definitely not ideal. Honestly, I would go into this expecting her to flake. It's a Friday so it's likely she'll get invited to something within the next week that will sound better than going on a date with a random Tinder guy. Make sure to keep the conversation alive during the next week, but don't overdo it. Always keep her wanting more- a witty exchange every couple of days should do the trick. If she flakes, I would ask to reschedule, but only offer to do so…
/r/seduction08/05/18 04:21 AM
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For the average guy, 10% of the girls you approach will just like you. They will make it easy and you can say pretty much anything to them. Around 10% of girls are the opposite, just completely uninterested in you. The middle 70% though will take some level of effort to get them attracted to you. This could be a large or small amount of effort depending on you, the girl, and the situation, but the point is, you're going to have to use your brain and stretch yourself a bit. It seems like with you…
/r/seduction08/05/18 02:50 AM
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This is a good principle, but an important caveat is that you don't need to be having fun all the time. There are natural lulls in conversations and hang-out sessions. Rather than constantly trying to entertain her, it's more important just to be able to hold your frame in those situations. Just be comfortable and confident in yourself and then it doesn't matter whether you're doing something super exciting or just casually chatting. She'll be hooked either way. If you focus too much on trying t…
/r/seduction08/05/18 12:30 AM
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Agreed that some people use it as a weak excuse. I think the problem for most guys that don't lift isn't that they are deluding themselves that they don't want muscles, but that the whole fitness process seems intense and overwhelming. That's the idea that these "listen up you fucking fags" posts propagate. In reality, as we know, fitness is like brushing your teeth. Takes some discipline, but it is simple, effective, and makes you feel damn good.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/18 06:18 AM
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Agreed. I workout before work in the mornings for this reason too. My mind feels so much less foggy afterwards.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/18 05:02 AM
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An important part of this, I believe, is to not be afraid to change your point of view when presented with new or better information, and accept when you are wrong. We demonize people in our politics that do this as "flip floppers", but it is actually a trait of highly intelligent people. This doesn't even have to involve other people, sometimes it's just hard to admit to yourself that you were wrong. That some idea you've had or thing you've been doing for the past x years is full of shit. Bein…
/r/TheRedPill12/04/18 02:59 AM
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Ok, let me clarify something, because posts like this are what make people not want to lift. You don't need to be fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger. You just need to be respectably fit. Do you need to go to the gym 7 days a week and eat perfectly clean? No. Do you need to go to the gym 3-5 days a week and keep an eye on your macros? Yes. Do you need to be able to deadlift 500 pounds? No. Should you be able to bench your body weight for 8 reps? Yes. You need to maintain a strong, healthy body not bec…
/r/TheRedPill12/04/18 02:52 AM
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While working out is important, it is not the most important thing. Building power is. I know countless guys with beer bellies who have their pick of the hottest women, because of the position of power they are in- rich, successful, influential guys. Now of course these guys are usually smart and confident as well, but sometimes fitness is not in the equation. If choosing between studying for your degree/hustling at your job, and getting a few more hours at the gym each week/eating perfectly cle…
/r/TheRedPill12/04/18 02:37 AM
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This is fake as shit, your stories make no sense. But it would be a nice experiment if someone actually went out and did this.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/18 05:53 PM
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This post reeks of someone who has never been successful enough to be in an environment composed of other truly successful people, which gasp includes women as well, and they're not one-trick ponies. I work at a top management consulting firm, and my colleagues (both male and female) are both extremely knowledgeable and interested in the world and its various intellectual disciplines, as well as being extremely successful at a young age. Are there patterns and tendencies among women to be intere…
/r/TheRedPill05/02/18 05:09 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks it's kind of weird to have a pregame and club night with your 3 buddies and 10 random girls who otherwise don't know each other? What the hell are the going to talk about with each other? How they all got picked up off the street by you? Sounds almost like you're leading a tour group. Your theory of going to the club with a lot of girls and focusing on gaming them instead of approaching strangers may have some weight to it, but your way of getting there is just head…
/r/TheRedPill31/01/18 05:34 AM
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I think you've hit the nail on the head with this. OP came off way too eager and presumptuous with that comment. No girl wants to be the girl that said yes when a guy basically said point blank "come to my place for sex" after the first date. No girl wants to think that she is the type to date players, the type to date guys who only want sex. That doesn't mean she won't fuck on the first date, it means she wants to look back on it and think "it just happened" as if it was some passionate, romant…
/r/TheRedPill31/01/18 05:03 AM
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It's not a healthy mindset to pretend like rejections don't exist. That's like giving out participation trophies. There are definitely things to learn from every rejection, but it won't help to frame them as victories. It's more about getting comfortable with the fact that you're going to fail, a lot.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/18 04:22 PM
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Some of my thoughts: -I know there are some that advocate being sober when going out, but I think it's just pointless. A chill bar is one thing, but a nightclub ? That sounds awful. Why would you want to be the only sober person in a crowd of drunk/high people with extremely loud music? Even if you're the most confident, social person ever, that does not sound fun to me. Also, no matter how charming you are, people will be able to tell if you're stone cold sober at a nightclub, and it will be of…
/r/TheRedPill30/01/18 04:14 PM
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Finally a logical post. Sadly it is extremely common nowadays on both the left and right, with both men and women, to make such absolutist arguments. It's a product of our new clickbait media that sensationalizes everything and shoves it in your face in order to make money. They want to make people angry because that's what gets clicks. The byproduct is that so many people are just becoming lost causes when it comes to any kind of rational discussion. They are fed a narrative online (whether it'…
/r/TheRedPill29/01/18 04:29 AM
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There's good perseverance and bad perseverance. Good perseverance happens when a woman is already attracted to you and wants to fuck you. These are things like passing her shit tests such as dealing with logistics, her friends, anti-slut defense, last minute rejection, etc. Basically just holding your frame while she goes through her laundry list of tests to reach that sweet, sweet plausible deniability. Bad perseverance is continually trying to get a woman to become attracted to you- constantly…
/r/TheRedPill24/01/18 07:48 PM
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Join some clubs! You're in college, it's incredibly easy to find organizations to make friends in. To become better at socializing, read up on things like conversation skills, attraction skills, and influencing people. A few books that I recommend: How to Win Friends and Influence People -Dale Carnegie Models -Mark Manson Influence -Robert Cialdini After you have the basic fundamentals of socialization down, it's all practice, practice, practice. It's going to be hard at first but you need to co…
/r/seduction24/02/17 03:31 AM
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You didn't do anything wrong honestly, some nights things just don't work out. I suppose you could have really persisted and possibly scored, but she clearly would have been upset with herself for it. If you like this girl, definitely ask her out again, since there's a good chance this was a one-off. If it happens again, then it's probably a problem worth further analyzing.
/r/seduction24/02/17 03:24 AM
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Holy shit, this may be the worst advice I've ever heard on this sub. Never ever say anything like this.
/r/seduction24/02/17 03:21 AM
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Your problem is not uncommon. 99% of people are the same way at some point, even the most adept guys. I had this too for quite some time, and the way I got through it was realizing three things: Hot girls are just people like everyone else. They have quirks, insecurities, and unflattering qualities of their own. Just talk to them like you would anyone else. Who says she's even good enough for you? By doing the above, you are already ahead of 90% of guys who approach them, since most are like you…
/r/seduction24/02/17 03:17 AM
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There are plenty of things that girls will say about what they're attracted to that they may think they believe, but in reality their natural attraction instinct will behave differently. Some girls may say they don't want a tall guy, but if the opportunity arose I couldn't see someone being too tall a dealbreaker, unless it's seriously tall (6'6+). I'm not saying this to demean short guys in anyway, but instead because I believe that one important part of becoming an attractive man is coming to …
/r/seduction24/02/17 03:08 AM
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I don't like this "gamma male" term. I don't think really think it exists. It sounds just like you're just a beta who is in denial about it because you're above average in attractiveness. By the way, that's all you really are, looks wise- slightly above average. You're still going to need a personality to be successful with women. And if girls were really throwing themselves at you as much as you, you would have had sex with more women by now. I know you rationalize this by saying I think the be…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 04:33 AM
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Don't let your guard down, she may seem different, but seeming is different than actually being different. If you are to trust her it should be because she's proven over a long period of time that she is worthy of it, not because she outwardly appears to be "different".
/r/TheRedPill11/12/16 08:13 PM
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Practice is 90% of what is going to help you get better. Theory should only be read in spare time and not taken too seriously. This isn't a science.
/r/seduction22/05/16 12:11 AM
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I would argue that in many cases it's not that she's uninterested in you- it's just that people in this day and age of instant communication are more flaky than ever. It's just become something that is tolerated and is the norm. You just have to make it clear that type of behavior won't be tolerated. My rule is if they flake once, that's fine. Shit happens. If they flake again, unless it's a really good reason, I'll explain point blank that I don't like flakiness and to not worry about hanging o…
/r/seduction22/05/16 12:09 AM
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You're right, but many people take negging to be just needlessly insulting the girl and pulling out insecurities in order to attract her to you. Which is not healthy.
/r/seduction21/05/16 11:34 PM
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They just don't want guys messaging them "ayy bby u wan sum fuk". If you play your cards right, most tinder girls will sleep with you by the second or third date. Some will on the first if you have a really good connection.
/r/seduction02/12/15 03:16 AM
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Seems like she was more interested in you for one reason or another. Could have been that you're just physically attractive, or the fact that you opted to not join the conversation could have added to your mysteriousness / confidence-exuding factor. Because your brother already opened her you were right to not go for it, but it is good that you noticed something subtle like this. Things like this are sometimes key to picking up women.
/r/seduction01/01/15 11:34 PM
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I've found that women love men who are passionate about their hobbies, as long as those hobbies are something productive. Math, science and computer programming are all very productive hobbies. I'm into STEM myself, and I've had many wonderful and attraction-building conversations with women talking about it. Women love smart guys. Intelligence is equated to power. Just don't talk to them about video games, anime etc. Not that they will care that you do these things, just don't talk to them abou…
/r/seduction01/01/15 11:29 PM
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Jeez you are thinking way too much into this. Seduction isn't some kind of hard science. You don't need to read so much into these materials. Just get the basics from them and then all the rest is just about practice and experience. No need to memorize routines or complicated techniques.
/r/seduction01/01/15 11:25 PM
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You ruined this night for yourself by being "too high to communicate with everyone." If you weren't so fucked up you could have managed yourself and your girlfriend much better.
/r/seduction01/01/15 11:23 PM
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here.
/r/seduction19/11/14 04:52 AM
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Whichever one you are more comfortable being. As long as you have confidence either persona will be attractive. What isn't attractive is trying to be one or the other when you clearly are not truly that kind of person. People can sense you being fake.
/r/seduction26/10/14 11:40 PM
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There's no way that it won't be awkward your first time. It's like that for everyone. Not really any way to avoid it except doing it with someone you trust and are familiar with. Makes it a lot easier to laugh it off when the inevitable awkward moments happen. Just know that there will be a learning curve to it and try to put as little pressure on yourself as possible. Another option is just to go to a hooker. They won't give a shit what you do wrong, they might even guide and help you if you te…
/r/seduction09/10/14 03:25 AM
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This may be the article you were talking about. Great article to read for seduction in general, even better if you'll actually be in Thailand. http://postmasculine.com/life-through-the-eyes-of-a-beautiful-woman
/r/seduction09/10/14 03:18 AM
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Shaking hands is good when you first meet a girl, it'd be weird in most scenarios to try and hug them when you are first introduced. Also the handshake is your first chance to make a confident, dominant impression. Be assertive, cheerful and look them straight in the eye when you introduce yourself. Also if its a girl you're interested in don't break the handshake until they do. Hold your frame.
/r/seduction08/10/14 01:13 AM
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This is just some guy trying to explain his personal style as if it was the cure-all for seduction. I.e., a load of horseshit. Maybe it works for this guy but I would not go around congratulating girls on trying to impress him and interviewing them about their sexual history and masturbation preferences.
/r/seduction07/10/14 03:20 AM
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You pretty much have the quintessential formula to attract any college girl. You're older than them, have a car and apartment, and are attractive. What's stopping you?
/r/seduction07/10/14 03:15 AM
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Good job dude. Don't respond to that text.
/r/seduction07/10/14 03:13 AM
1

There are no magic words to get girls to kiss you. You have to feel the situation, and her body language. Does she seem really comfortable around you? Are you making strong eye contact with her? How close are you guys sitting/standing to each other when you talk? Are you kino escalating correctly? All of this you should take into account as to whether or not to kiss her. Even taking all of this into account, sometimes it's still hard to tell whether or not she'll accept the kiss. So you just hav…
/r/seduction07/10/14 03:09 AM
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lol
/r/seduction07/10/14 03:03 AM
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Experience, plain and simple. Doesn't matter if it's daygame, nightgame, online dating, whatever. There is definitely some good introductory material on here that you should read before approaching, but you will hit a wall very quickly by only reading theory and not going out and doing it. You just have to go out there and get rejected. Not just a few times, but hundreds of times. You have to get rejected so many times that you get sick of it and want to quit. So many times that you question why…
/r/seduction06/10/14 04:26 PM
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Not really anything to take away here seduction wise but props for a funny story, and learn to control your drinking.
/r/seduction06/10/14 04:54 AM
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End your logistical texts with something like "let me know by the end of today, so I know whether or not to make other plans", and if she doesn't then just go ahead and make other plans and don't text her again. If she truly is interested, she'll contact you again, and know that you're not someone she can jerk around like that. If she's not interested, then that just saves you time anyways.
/r/seduction24/09/14 07:17 PM
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Game isn't something you need to explicitly put aside time to practice. Once you have the fundamentals its all about putting it into action, and you can do this in every area of your life. Just do a little each day. Talk to that hot girl you pass on the way to the gym next time instead of just passing by. Get that cute girl's number in your class.
/r/seduction24/09/14 04:45 AM
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You shouldn't go to clubs looking to talk to girls. Go to bars for that. Clubs are superficial environments where you attract girls with anything besides talking. But if you insist, really the only way is to move them to an area with lower music. This will be hard if you haven't already established some attraction on the dance floor, though.
/r/seduction24/09/14 04:31 AM
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I like this a lot, especially the first "under your clothes" line. Really gets them thinking in a sexual way. I probably wouldn't have gone and "examined" her as much as you did, but it definitely opens it up for some kino. Good find.
/r/seduction24/09/14 04:27 AM
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Some people here will tell you that ethnicity doesn't matter. However, in the world we live in, it does. That's the truth. It's true, some girls don't like hispanic guys. However, some girls don't like white guys. Some girls don't like black guys. Some girls like ONLY hispanic guys. Your ethnicity is something that can hurt or help you. But that's just the way it is, and you can't change it, so you might as well own it. Confidence is more attractive than any ethnicity. And for what it's worth, a…
/r/seduction24/09/14 04:24 AM
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For me, strong, fearless eye contact is the biggest conveyor of sexual interest. Kino and anything else is worthless without it.
/r/seduction24/09/14 04:18 AM
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Don't worry so much about what you say. Just say whatever comes to your mind. You might say stupid things sometimes, but don't worry everyone does. Laugh it off and move on. Also you will get better over time at bantering on the spot. You'll learn to be able to talk about nothing for hours. Having fluid, natural-feeling conversations with a girl is a huge step in making them comfortable with you, which is obviously a huge step for attraction. I can't even count the number of times I've hooked gi…
/r/seduction24/09/14 04:12 AM
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You said approach anxiety isn't the biggest factor and then went on to describe your problem as exactly what approach anxiety is. Pretty much everyone has approach anxiety if they haven't worked on it before, so don't worry about it. There are many resources here as to how to overcome it. However, the easiest way to throw yourself into the social life on campus is to get into greek life. Greek life gets a bad rap usually on reddit, but it's one of those things where a few bad cases spoil the rep…
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:58 AM
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First off, if you're thinking psychology and sociology classes, you're thinking the wrong thing. There is no big revelations in Psych 101 that you'll learn that will suddenly make you able to analyze women. There is no class for that. That said, I believe there are some classes that can help you improve skills that are also used in game. Public speaking- Helps you get comfortable speaking in groups, and many of the techniques they teach can be applicable in one on one conversations as well. Fore…
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:51 AM
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People here will tell you to read up on body language. While there is some universal cues, every girl is different. Just being versed in body language will not allow you to know if every girl likes you or not. Some girls have very obvious body language changes when they like someone, and some will hardly ever show it. For that reason, most of the time you should just assume attraction and go for it. Rejection sucks at first, but after a little while you'll start not caring about it.
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:33 AM
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Going to parties alone is actually what really jump-started my social life in college. A lot of times when I would go to parties with friends I'd just stay in that small group the whole time, maybe meeting a new person here and there or trying to flirt with a few girls. But when you go alone, you have no choice but to meet new people. I've met so many of my friends by just walking up to them at parties and introducing myself. This can feel like an awkward thing to do at first, but after a while …
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:27 AM
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Go out with him when he's not plastered and see if he has the same confidence. Anyone can be outcome independent when they're shitfaced. That said, he obviously did a great job. Also, about the buying a drink thing. Yes, it's technically a "needy" thing to do, but if everything else about your frame is exuding confidence (like this Casi guy) then it's irrelevant. If buying a girl a drink helps him work his game better, more power to him.
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:12 AM
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No don't do this it's weird, just do what the parent comment said and kiss her.
/r/seduction23/09/14 07:39 PM
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I think what interests women can be split into 3 things- the basics, interests and achievements. The basics are the same for everyone. Dress well, have good hygiene, and be confident with yourself. For interests, it doesn't matter what they are, but you want to have more active/productive interests than sedentary ones. Girls aren't interested in guys who play video games all day. Achievements are basically what you have done with your life. If you've worked hard and achieved a lot in your life y…
/r/seduction29/07/14 04:46 PM
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This is the right answer. Not every single thing girls do is some kind of shit test. She was probably just bored and felt like talking to someone. Nothing wrong with a little chit chat here and there.
/r/seduction24/07/14 08:22 PM
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That's exactly what I was saying- it'll work if you've already established that you have that sort of sense of humor. But if you haven't made jokes like that before and then throw that out, it would be weird. That's why I said it wouldn't work for everyone.
/r/seduction24/07/14 08:21 PM
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I could see this working if you have that sort of playful personality. It wouldn't work for everyone though.
/r/seduction24/07/14 05:59 PM
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Do: -Differentiate yourself from guys in their country. Eastern european guys are typically very forward, so be different than that. Be respectful, smooth and down to earth (while still communicating your intent of course) -Be humble of their country and your status as a foreigner. Don't act like you know everything about their city or country, because you don't. Use your status as a foreigner to your advantage and ask them to tell you about/show you the cool places in their city. This will make…
/r/seduction22/07/14 07:41 PM
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Politely tell her no, because you wanted to spend some time with just her and get to know each other better. But also tell her that you'd love to hang out with her friend there another time and maybe you can bring a friend too.
/r/seduction14/07/14 04:57 PM
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There is some good advice in this thread, and I would like to add that, in general, you should never take Tinder very seriously. Though it has the hottest girls out of any dating app, it also has the most flakes and people with no real intention of meeting up. Even if you have great texting game, the majority of your matches probably just won't work out for one reason or another. For me, tinder is a just fun way to have goofy and random conversations in your spare time. If something comes from i…
/r/seduction23/06/14 01:29 AM
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Most people tend to live their lives safely within social norms. "Seduction" and "PUA" are still controversial buzzwords. The majority of guys will never want to delve into it because of lack of mainstream approval. It's a shame as those stereotypes stopped being accurate years ago, but on the flipped side it makes the skills we achieve here all the more valuable.
/r/seduction09/05/14 06:39 PM
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Maybe I was a bit harsh with the "ridden with brocabulary" statement haha but I do wish it read a little less loudly. In a way it masks the good content with excessive exclamation marks and pictures of the dos equis guy. A common problem in the PUA blogsphere. But as I said it has good info, a good read for anyone in this community I'd say.
/r/seduction09/05/14 06:35 PM
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The article is ridden with 'brocabulary" but looking past that it is a decent read and highlights a good sticking point for anyone. "Assuming attraction was way, way, more effective than trying to create attraction with a girl who didn’t care. It forced us to enter with intent, charm the girl, escalate, close, and get it right the first time. For her sake as much as ours." That's the best part of it right there. Something I always keep in mind is that you should never try to attract someone who …
/r/seduction09/05/14 03:02 AM
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Agreed. To add onto this, one mistake some people learning seduction make is to assume that everything girls say and do is some sort of test. The truth is that 5% of girls you meet (if you're an average guy) will just simply like you. No PUA skills needed, you just need to go with flow and stay confident.
/r/seduction09/05/14 02:55 AM
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Here's the thing man. If you're looking for friends, one night stands are not the way to get them. Most girls don't go home with a guy because they want to be platonic friends afterwards. Many girls have one night stands for the same reason many guys do-- for a fun, sexy, no strings attached night. If you guys connect well on a platonic level and that turns into a friendship that's great, but don't ever expect that to happen because most of the time it won't. The reason these girls are being col…
/r/seduction09/05/14 02:49 AM
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Don't wait until your next haircut. There's nothing wrong with showing your interest, as long as you are confident about it, it won't come off as creepy. Also, the "I don't like being hit on at work" thing is bullshit, that's why you never ask girls for their advice in picking up girls. They may not "like" being hit on there, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't be receptive to it if someone did it right. Go in later this week at a non-busy time and ask for her, if she's not there just casually a…
/r/seduction09/05/14 02:29 AM
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When you're a boss at life and you know it, you don't need much game. Seems like you finally figured that out. Good job man.
/r/seduction28/04/14 03:21 AM
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There's no way she's booked every single hour until next Sunday. No one is that busy. When girls tell me something like this, I'll respond with something like: "I get that you're busy, so am I. I think you're pretty cool, but I don't wait around. So if you're down to hang out that's great, but if not, there's plenty of other cool people out there, you know? Let me know if you can make a little time for me next week." This puts the ball in her court and lets her know you're not going to play the …
/r/seduction28/04/14 03:12 AM
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In Models, Manson addresses this stuff. He says that shallow methods like those used in The Game work, but won't lead to long term fulfillment. There's many different ways to attract women. The methods in both books work. What method you use depends on your personality and what you want out of the process. If you want to don a false personality to have meaningless sex with every hot college girl you meet, follow The Game. If you want to gain true confidence and make lasting, authentic connection…
/r/seduction28/04/14 12:41 AM
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/r/highseddit is where you want to go.
/r/seduction28/04/14 12:33 AM
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Not sure why everyone is mentioning negging. Negging isn't some secret strategy that only master PUAs use. Chances are she's been getting "negged" all night. No, you won't come off as unique and daring if you start by negging, you'll come off as rude and socially unaware, or at best be lumped in with the rest of the idiots hitting on her. If you open a girl by negging just because you think she's really hot and you need to downplay her value, you're just as much in the wrong as one of those neck…
/r/seduction27/04/14 08:14 PM
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This is the only thing in this thread that would have any chance of working.
/r/seduction27/04/14 07:55 PM
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This is probably the most AFC statement I've ever read.
/r/seduction27/04/14 07:53 PM
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Being confident doesn't prevent you from offending people, in fact quite the opposite. That's why I said you shouldn't be afraid to offend people. If you confidently state your opinion you will inevitably get people that disagree with you and dislike you. However you also have more people than the average person that fucking love you, and they make the haters worth it.
/r/seduction21/02/14 07:34 AM
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Most of the time it's a positive response, and any time it isn't, the girl usually ends up not being someone I'd want to be around anyway. I've gotten things such as "haha well thank you" to "props for honesty" to "well don't be I think you're really cool" but also sometimes "haha I'm kind of nervous too." When you are honest with people it subconsciously makes them feel more comfortable being honest around you. Though it's a good thing to say at times, you shouldn't go around telling every hot …
/r/seduction21/02/14 07:09 AM
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Tinder isn't like OKC in the way that your profile matters. I don't really know anyone who puts more than a line or two in their tinder profile and most don't put anything. And I don't really know anyone who always reads or cares about the little profile bit. Everyone just looks at the pictures and makes their choice. It's literally the most superficial way you can meet women. And also it's pretty much only used for hookups, not to find a relationship. The only thing your experiment proves is th…
/r/seduction21/02/14 04:45 AM
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You have to be polarizing. State your true opinions, don't sugarcoat them or dull them down for the sake of not being controversial. Don't be afraid to offend someone. If you boldly state your opinions and stand by them, you'll have much better and more authentic conversations.
/r/seduction20/02/14 08:36 PM
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Don't beat yourself up too much, we've all had missed opportunities, and there will be more of them. I would definitely go back on whatever day you think she works and ask her out. Sure there's a chance she'll say no, but if she does then you can just put her out of your thoughts and move on. But if she does say yes then you have an awesome date coming up. There's nothing to lose, so you should go for it.
/r/seduction20/02/14 02:07 AM
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For me it's been dealing with the inevitability of hurting some girls emotionally. Sometimes its nice and easy and you both know what the other person wants, but other times they may want something more or feel stronger about you than you do them, and it's fucking hard to crush them when the time comes. I always try to follow the principle of leave girls better than you found them, but sometimes it doesn't work, and that's the hardest thing about being successful with dating.
/r/seduction20/02/14 02:03 AM
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My friends and I like to play "dare or dare" (based off truth or dare but come on truth is no fun). We basically just get each other to do embarrassing or weird things at whatever venue we're at. Usually it involves going up to people and doing/saying something so playing this game usually makes us some new friends right off the bat as well. None of my friends or I have any shame so it gets really hilarious. It's a fun thing to do to really get comfortable with the venue and in a "fuck it" mood.
/r/seduction20/02/14 01:57 AM
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True confidence is owning up to your insecurities. Everyone feels insecure at certain times, it's a natural human emotion. What separates the confident people from the unconfident ones are those that are man enough to admit their vulnerabilities and not be ashamed by them. When I used to get really nervous around hot girls (and sometimes still do) I just throw it out there with something like "I'm pretty nervous right now because you're fucking gorgeous." However when I say this I say it comfort…
/r/seduction20/02/14 01:50 AM
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I don't know why people think "I have a boyfriend" is a shit test. It's not. A girl would not say that she has a boyfriend unless she actually has one, or she is completely not interested in you. Why? Because if it was a shit test and you did manage to seduce her, no girl of any worth wants to be known as the one who cheats on their boyfriend, even if he is imaginary. If a girl tells me this line, I friendzone her right there and then. That doesn't mean I abandon the interaction, but I genuinely…
/r/seduction20/02/14 01:36 AM
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No matter how good you get at PUA or anything else in life, you're going to have off periods. No way around them. To minimize the severity and length of them, you just always have be making an effort to improve yourself. Whether you're improving yourself physically by working out, excelling at your job or school, or practicing and learning more PUA, just make sure to try to improve yourself every day in some way or another. This way, each day you are renewing your confidence and drive. But also …
/r/seduction12/02/14 04:59 AM
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Just ask her if she wants to study or hang out after school, and if she says yes you can get her number. Simple as that.
/r/seduction12/02/14 04:54 AM
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You can seduce more than just women with the techniques and advice from PUA. Once you have a grasp on the concepts you can swing pretty much any social situation in your favor.
/r/seduction12/02/14 04:53 AM
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You are right that a full on approach is what everyone should aim for. But when a girl comes here and says if you aren't confident enough to make a full on approach you shouldn't even try, that is the wrong message. I don't know about you, but when I first started learning PUA I wasn't comfortable enough right off the bat to just walk up and directly start hitting on a girl I didn't know. At first I was a bit indirect and unconfident. Of course after I got more experience I moved to full on appr…
/r/seduction12/02/14 04:23 AM
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I should have worded my last sentence differently, I wasn't trying to insult you. I understand that you had good intentions by posting this, and some of the points you made are helpful, but ultimately you are reinforcing the stigma around one of the greatest obstacles in seduction, which is approach anxiety. You are reinforcing that a man attempting to get a women's attention whom he does not know will result in hostility from her and he shouldn't do it. The reality is that no approach is ever g…
/r/seduction11/02/14 09:26 PM
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Sorry, but this clearly wasn't a serious "seduction" attempt. I suppose they were technically hitting on you, but the guys were just doing something a little goofy to make themselves laugh. I don't think any of them really expected you to come over and drop your pants because they waved at you. Also, if you're going to get seriously offended by some guys doing something as simple as waving at you, you're not someone that most guys with any kind of self-confidence would want to associate with any…
/r/seduction11/02/14 08:38 PM
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I used to be confused by this too. The happy medium is that you need to go after what you want, but be outcome independent. Be unapologetic with your attraction towards a woman. If you want to make a move, make it. Don't overthink it. However, if you get rejected, brush it off and move on, because there's millions of other women.
/r/seduction10/02/14 04:32 AM
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Honestly I think that was a fantastic opener. It was a tactful yet charming observation- not something a lot of people would notice. Also good that it happened to be a correct observation. You knocked that one out of the park. I would be very surprised if she wasn't interested in you. Great job man, keep us updated.
/r/seduction10/02/14 04:29 AM
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Well, to start, how is your appearance? Keeping a good appearance is a key requirement for attracting women. Make sure you are in shape, have good hygiene, dress well, and have a decent haircut. These are starting requirements for picking up women.
/r/seduction10/02/14 04:24 AM
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Clubs are filled with assholes. But you don't need to be the one to call them out on their awful behavior. As you saw in this situation, it didn't make you look cool or alpha to call her out, it just led to an awful situation. Just laugh at these people from afar and go about your business. Even if it was you that she cut in front of, I would have just shook it off and moved on. Being truly confident involves knowing when not to start something even though you may be offended.
/r/seduction10/02/14 04:18 AM
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You've already mentioned the best places. College is better for night game than it is for daygame though.
/r/seduction10/02/14 03:58 AM
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It's very simple, just say some variant of "hey what's up" "how's your night going?" etc.
/r/seduction10/02/14 03:56 AM
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I do this most of the time when I get an LMR. The key is to freeze them out physically but otherwise act completely unfazed. Continue to talk to them, turn on the TV or something, and just basically friend-zone them for a while. And then after a while when they are desperately showing that they want to hook up again, make sure to turn them on even more than before.
/r/seduction10/02/14 03:42 AM
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For those downvoting, obviously he's not suggesting that you keep going if she's seriously not into it. But many times LMR can be fixed by just being a little more persistent. A girl who doesn't normally have a one night stand may say "we're not having sex" at first purely out of principle, but if she gets turned on enough she can change her mind.
/r/seduction10/02/14 03:36 AM
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You are always going to have fluctuations in your success with game. It doesn't mean you're getting worse. Everyone has dry streaks, and everyone has periods where they are low on confidence, or where they become complacent to getting better. Even the master PUAs. What separates the truly great PUAs from the not so great ones though is that the truly great time and again can pull themselves out of the rut and start improving again. Don't get desperate. Just keep approaching, practicing and learn…
/r/seduction10/02/14 03:27 AM
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I do this all the time, it's a fun goofy way to open up the dance interaction with the girl. I come up to her from the front, dance a little bit with her like that and then twirl her, turn myself around and grind on her with my ass. It always gets a laugh and lightens the mood. But after a minute or so of this I move on to conventional grinding, and then escalate to make out, etc. You said you think this is creepy, but it's not, as long as you've already established the interaction. Girls love g…
/r/seduction09/02/14 09:26 PM
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Some girls will just absolutely never sleep with someone on the first night they meet out of principle, because they are very concerned with the whole slut-shaming aspect. Call her up today and make plans for as soon as possible.
/r/seduction09/02/14 09:15 PM
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I understand what you mean about not having sex in that long. It fucking sucks. The natural reaction is to do exactly what you said. But you have to fight those subconscious feelings as much as you can. Being outcome independent is a vital part of attracting women. When you think 'perfect match, but last chance, you have to get this one' you immediately put her on an undeserved pedestal. From the beginning she has more power over you than you do over her. And then you've already lost. You have t…
/r/seduction12/01/14 12:41 AM
2

Yeah definitely, I've used that before.
/r/seduction11/01/14 11:56 PM
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That's a good one. Could have also said "pass pass pass pass"
/r/seduction11/01/14 09:10 PM
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Respond either with a joke (self deprecating or cocky, whichever humor is your style) or if you can't think of one just say thanks and move on in the conversation.
/r/seduction11/01/14 04:50 PM
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Don't just keep your hands on her hips. Move them slowly around her stomach and thighs while you're dancing. Then slowly work upwards, brushing her boobs on the way up to eventually have your hand around her neck/chin area, and then pull her in for the make out. Alternatively, take her hand and twirl her around and grind on her front to front, from which you have easy access to kissing her.
/r/seduction11/01/14 04:48 PM
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Don't give them the validation they want. Don't be like "wow you're gorgeous" or something like that, just make a joke or don't even acknowledge it.
/r/seduction11/01/14 04:44 PM
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She was walking pretty close to me, in fact I wasn't particularly moving towards her but for some of the time her whole arm by her side was touching mine. (I think I was supposed to escalate here, but how???? On a tour? Outside in public? I had no knowledge of any boyfriend who could have been on the same bus?? I guess I could have taken the risk of putting my arm around her, but not much more if that???) You can kino as you walk by doing exactly what she was doing. Walk close to her and brush h…
/r/seduction11/01/14 04:36 PM
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This is the right answer. It is very possible to get out of the friendzone but it takes more work then just randomly pulling a move.
/r/seduction11/01/14 06:42 AM
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Sarcastic.
/r/seduction11/01/14 06:38 AM
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If she would ignore your attempt at talking to her I don't think she'd say yes to asking her out.
/r/seduction10/01/14 06:55 AM
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That's rough finding that out on facebook. That would bum me out too. But there's millions more out there, so if things don't work out with her don't sweat it for a second.
/r/seduction10/01/14 06:29 AM
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Don't worry about that stuff. Focus on your strengths. Are you funny? Smart? Caring? Being yourself might feel weird/wrong at first but if you continue to be genuine soon you'll become confident with who you are. Not everyone will like you, but you'll form great connections with those that do.
/r/seduction10/01/14 06:25 AM
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For what it's worth, she seemed pretty enthusiastic in that missing part you just added. And yeah, there are a lot of girls like that at your age (my age as well). Depending on where you live you could try using OKCupid, there seems to be a good amount of girls wanting something serious on there.
/r/seduction10/01/14 05:52 AM
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I wouldn't ask her out like that on facebook. The whole reason the "I think you're cute" line is good is because it's bold, but there's nothing bold about saying it on facebook. Even though it is not your intention to sound like this, it comes across as "I'm cruising my facebook chat to get dates." What I would do is just message her just asking how she's been and have a decent conversation, then ask her to hang out or study together sometime (don't ask her on an official date yet). Then once yo…
/r/seduction10/01/14 05:48 AM
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I always give girls the benefit of the doubt on the first flake. No need to assume anything yet, she could have just actually been sick. Wait a few days and then ask her to dinner again. If she flakes again, then you can move on. In terms of what you can do to prevent flakes? Not much. People will tell you to make a better first impression, text her in a different way, etc. but in my experience there's just no magic cure for reducing flakes. They're just a part of the process.
/r/seduction10/01/14 05:41 AM
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If you're a classroom, try not to sit in the front, back or side, sit somewhere in the middle where you have people to talk to on all sides. If you're in a large lecture hall, just try to grab a seat next to a cute girl. There's no magic trick on how to act. Just introduce yourself and be casual, friendly and light-hearted. Make some small talk or comments about the class. That's really the best you can do on the first day. And "being yourself" isn't bullshit. I assume you got that from TRP- be …
/r/seduction10/01/14 05:23 AM
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Honestly, it'll be hard for you to hide who you really are when it comes down to it. You don't need to run from it. That doesn't mean be upfront about it to every girl you meet, but if it comes up there's no need to lie or pretend to have any experience that you don't have. There's absolutely nothing wrong with your situation, and anyone who says otherwise isn't worth a millisecond of your time. As long as you are not ashamed of it, girls will not be either. In fact, virginity can even be an att…
/r/seduction10/01/14 02:42 AM
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The way I approach field reports and pretty much anything on seddit is to take it with a grain of salt. Nothing that people say here should be taken as universal facts, only as advice and suggestions. A field report by its very nature shouldn't be taken too seriously, it's a very subjective recollection of one situation. Even Mark Manson in the ever-popular book Models says that nothing he says works universally and he's just saying what works for him. With all the abbreviations and terms used t…
/r/seduction10/01/14 02:19 AM
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I think everyone's first kiss was a little awkward. Yours had to have been better than mine where we both basically just touched our closed mouths together for two seconds. It only gets better from there, and the improvement is exponential. In terms of advice, this is what I have to offer. Some may disagree with this, but in my opinion kissing is one of the few things that movies get right. Model your kissing after the passionate kisses you see in the movies. Obviously use your own judgment of t…
/r/seduction09/01/14 01:38 AM
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Not texting her would be a mistake, in my opinion. She didn't want to hook up with you because it was clear you were just using her for sex (even if you actually did care about her). To not text her would break the rapport you've established recently and then the same thing would happen again- she'd reject your advances because she doesn't wasn't to be used. Many girls do not respect themselves enough to do this, but clearly this girl is not going to fuck you unless you actually demonstrate you …
/r/seduction21/12/13 05:37 PM
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It's basically about turning your inner game into outer game. Shows you how to use honesty and vulnerability to attract women.
/r/seduction20/12/13 09:36 AM
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Read "Models" by Mark Manson. And practice, practice, practice.
/r/seduction20/12/13 09:29 AM
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I have to respectfully disagree, I think calling is extremely out of place nowadays, at least if you're in your 20s. It's not about boldness, texting is just flat out more convenient. By calling her you either look like you have nothing going on in life so you have all the time in the world to call random girls you just met, or you look like you're trying too hard. You're saying that if a girl doesn't want to take your call she was never interested enough in the first place? I disagree. There's …
/r/seduction20/12/13 09:22 AM
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This is very much a cultural thing. In my experience, in latin countries as well as eastern european countries (and I'm sure some other places in the world) guys are aggressive when flirting with women, especially when opening. The "hey you're cute" thing (and even bolder varieties) is used all the time. However guys hardly ever say this in countries like the USA or UK, so that's what makes it a good opener in those countries. Girls are not used to guys being that direct.
/r/seduction20/12/13 01:36 AM
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In my experience there is widely varied spectrum with this. Some girls will always be weak to a physically attractive guy, and some could give two shits what you look like. It all depends on the person.
/r/seduction20/12/13 01:32 AM
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Taking dance classes has revolutionized my confidence with pickup. It is my absolute favorite place to meet women. You are learning something new and fun together where you get to touch each other. What more could you want? Also when you integrate your new dance moves with club dancing you'll be in a whole new league. The dances I would recommend learning are hustle, bachata, merengue and salsa in that order. East coast and west coast swing are great as well. Also, if you really want to step up …
/r/seduction18/12/13 06:42 AM
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Fellow ballroomer here. Hustle is amazing for hitting on girls when you combine it with generic club dancing. The dumbfounded smile a girl gets when you throw a pretzel on her on the dance floor is great.
/r/seduction18/12/13 06:36 AM
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the rare but wonderful alpha female, gotta love them.
/r/seduction18/12/13 02:29 AM
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Whatever universe you live in that hot girls approach you at your table at a bar, I want to be there. I felt like they played the seducers for half of this story, if I didn't know this was an FR I'd say it's the beginning to a Hostel movie... Great job though, very well done on all fronts. You were a boss from start to finish.
/r/seduction18/12/13 01:45 AM
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An important thing to remember is that this is NOT a science. A lot of experts nowadays love to give everything terms and abbreviations, but that doesn't legitimize it in the way an academic field of study is legitimate. Nothing that anyone, even the experts, say should be taken as a universal fact, only as recommendations. Manson even says this at the beginning of Models- that he's only telling you what works for him and it shouldn't be taken as a universal solution. So how do you know what adv…
/r/seduction16/12/13 07:52 AM
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Taking your downvotes like a man.
/r/seduction16/12/13 07:06 AM
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The moral of this, in my opinion, is strike while the iron is hot. The first chance you had was the second party you had at your fraternity, I know you said she left with her friends but you should have been escalating the entire night, and worked to isolate her from her friends. The concert was your next and biggest chance. You should have fucked her that night. I'm sure you were just too fucked up on molly to realize at the time, but it is what it is. The sorority formal was obviously a bad ni…
/r/seduction16/12/13 04:36 AM
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Not everything has to be serious or 100% helpful for game. I think it's a great idea, it adds a bit of lightheartedness to his process and is good for reflection.
/r/seduction14/12/13 06:31 PM
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I like this- it's always good to reflect on your failures/successes, and a twitter account seems like a great idea for that. You not only have a personal timeline for yourself but you can get feedback from others. Good luck with it and your game!
/r/seduction14/12/13 06:26 PM
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I've had a couple and neither have been worth it- whenever it ends its always awkward and stressful to worth with them. I would just say resist the temptation.
/r/seduction14/12/13 06:25 PM
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How long did you talk to her for before asking for the number? You said you waited till the conversation slowed, how long was this? If it was only 1-2 mins in you may have not made a good enough connection. In conversation there are natural pauses, if it starts slowing don't panic and close because you think you can't think of anything else. Also, she may have just actually been seeing someone or been emotionally unavailable for another reason. Sometimes nothing in particular goes wrong you just…
/r/seduction14/12/13 02:56 AM
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I'm very similar to you in a way, I grew up with an amazing family that sheltered me to how awful people can be until I was older. And of course when I did find out, it hit me like a bag of bricks. But this is precisely the cause, in my opinion, of the kind of people you are talking about. I've learned that a lot of people never even had one single person ever be truly selfless towards them, let alone a family that did so. And like any other trait, compassion must be taught by example. It's not …
/r/seduction14/12/13 02:38 AM
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What happens is when you like a girl you get pushed to the back of the queue of people that have already liked her. However, this is a LONG queue. I was with a female friend of mine when she started using the app. For shits and giggles she started clicking yes to every person, and within 10 minutes she had over one hundred matches. So when you don't get matches don't think that everyone in the entire world is pressing no for you, they just more than likely haven't seen you.
/r/seduction14/12/13 01:56 AM
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Never, ever let women bring your confidence down. Those rejections say nothing about your value as person, only that things didn't go exactly right in that exact moment. You're still the awesome guy that attracted them to your apartment in the first place. You said yourself, you're a beginner. This stuff takes practice, and not just a little bit of it. Most beginners don't get girls back to their place for a long time, so you're ahead of the game. Specifically for these interactions, I would say…
/r/seduction12/12/13 11:03 PM
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Don't worry so much about finding the perfect moment to talk. Just interject when something relevant pops into your mind. A good way to bring yourself into the conversation is to ask a question, and then from then on you can just say whatever you want. In group conversations people care a lot less about what you say than you think they do, so don't yourself or anything you say too seriously.
/r/seduction12/12/13 08:44 PM
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I like that you didn't wait for a "perfect" moment and just went for the kiss when you felt like it. Good job man.
/r/seduction12/12/13 08:38 PM
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Whatever you want to get done. In this case it is approaching a girl, but I use for a lot of things in life. I use it for kissing a girl, initiating sex, or even something like getting out of bed in the morning. Whenever I don't want to do something that I know I should do, I just count down from ten and then do it. Because if I didn't do it, there'd be no point in the rule.
/r/seduction12/12/13 08:32 PM
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Get used to feeling that rush because it never stops feeling as good, in fact it only gets better. Keep at it! Try to improve every day.
/r/seduction12/12/13 08:18 AM
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This isn't just girls, it's everyone. Most people don't really listen to someone they just wait for a turn to speak, especially when it's not someone they're super invested in. Don't take it personally. Just the fact that you guys are sharing information back and forth helps build rapport.
/r/seduction12/12/13 08:13 AM
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Though obviously actually talking to her would have been better, at least you did something. It's all about baby steps. Next time make a full approach, and ask for her number instead of giving yours. Congrats on making the first step though.
/r/seduction12/12/13 08:10 AM
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You didn't mess up on dinner, you actually played it perfectly. You impressed her friends and even her boss. If you had tried any kind of escalation here it would have been vastly out of place and inappropriate. You did so well that when you went to that party, I think by saying "we should get in touch later" she wanted to meet up and potentially fuck you later that night. The reason she may have been a little weird the next couple of days is because that plan for the previous night didn't mater…
/r/seduction12/12/13 06:42 AM
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I don't think the notebook is a good idea, it's a little creepy. There's nothing embarrassing about pulling out your cracked phone as long as you don't act embarrassed about it. It's not like they're going to be thinking "cracked phone? that's a dealbreaker".
/r/seduction12/12/13 06:33 AM
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That's the thing, in order to show her that right off the bat you have to be direct. If you can't be totally confident with that you have to start off as a friendly stranger- just make a funny comment or joke about something about her or about your surroundings, and go from there.
/r/seduction11/12/13 11:27 PM
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That's no time at all. You had an internship with her for a month right? If anything it shows you've got other things to do and she's not your first priority, which shows non-neediness. She'll probably be delighted to hear from you.
/r/seduction11/12/13 07:34 PM
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Yes but if you use that opener you can't be nervous at all, you have to be 100% confident in yourself, or else it'll come off as weird. The point of the opener is that it's very frank and direct, so if your body language and tone does not match that directness, you'll be offputting.
/r/seduction11/12/13 07:30 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I'm all for showing sexual confidence and being plafyul and flirty, I just don't think this particular line is any good. It is not the same as pinching a girl's ass. I think it's too gimmicky and shows weakness from the fact that you're willing to pay money for an excuse to feel her up. But that's just my opinion. If you think it will work, test it out and let us know.
/r/seduction11/12/13 04:13 PM
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Even if I had rapport and kino going I think this would be out of place with someone I just met. I mean why do you need to con your way into feeling boobs? Are you 14? I just think this would be off-putting to any woman with half a brain. There are much better bets listed in this topic.
/r/seduction11/12/13 02:28 PM
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You're not an expert, you're a beginner. Reading about seduction is the groundwork, it is nothing compared to what you learn infield. When you go out and start approaching you'll be surprised at how little you know. Really the fact you have to ask where to find women says it all. That being said, doing your reading is good. Maybe since you've read so much you'll progress faster than others. But until then, you're a beginner. So get out there.
/r/seduction11/12/13 10:01 AM
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Yeah I don't see how this one works to make the girl more attracted to you, it just seems kind of random.
/r/seduction11/12/13 09:39 AM
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Yeah, sexually assaulting them is definitely the way to go...
/r/seduction11/12/13 09:29 AM
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In public translit there's not really any difference in terms of what you say compared to any other form of daygame, but what I've noticed is you have to be even more confident in yourself when you approach than if you just walked up to them on the street. This is because it's so inconvenient and unusual to approach on public transit that if you're not 100% confident in yourself you'll just look awkward and out of place. But if you are 100% confident your boldness will be attractive and not some…
/r/seduction10/12/13 08:35 PM
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In my opinion, this book is all you need until the very advanced stages of learning seduction. It's honestly a masterpiece.
/r/seduction10/12/13 08:21 PM
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I've never had this happen, but if this happened to me on a first date I would never talk to the girl again. Completely unacceptable on a date and just plain nasty behavior in general. A girl that does this is worth less than none of your time.
/r/seduction10/12/13 01:13 AM
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Thank you so much for this post. Posts like this are what makes wading through the bs "advice" in this subreddit all worth it. This is pure, informative technique and strategy, and is one of the best posts I've read here.
/r/seduction06/12/13 08:15 PM
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Did you even read it?
/r/seduction06/12/13 08:13 PM
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I always say playfully "you know, life takes place out here."
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:17 AM
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When girls do this I respond, but only sporadically throughout the day. If it gets beyond 5-6 texts I just stop responding for the day. It keeps it from being rude but sends a clear message that if she wants to chat she's going to need to come see me in person.
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:14 AM
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Do things that amuse the fuck out of YOU. Don't try to be high energy just because that's what you're supposed to do. Do things that are genuinely fun to you. Don't put anything above your own fun. For example, sometimes when I go out with one of my friends we talk in british accents to girls for a while and pretend like we're from the UK. We probably look stupid, but we don't care because it's fun and gets us energized. Also, if a girl you're talking to you isn't exciting and energizing you, mo…
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:08 AM
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Best to just be straight up with her. You don't have to tell her to fuck off or anything rude, just say something like "Just so you know I'm in a place in my life where I don't want anything more than something casual."
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:02 AM
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I used to be like this. What changed it for me was when I went out with one of my friends who isn't the smartest guy ever but is really successful with women. All night I watched him say the stupidest shit ever to women and they were absolutely enthralled by him. It's not what you say, it's how you say it. You can say almost anything to woman as long as you're 100% confident in what you're saying. You don't have to act "dumber" but sometimes it's ok to just say or do the first thing that comes t…
/r/seduction06/12/13 03:58 AM
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You've relied on looks and flat out being awesome your whole life so you've never needed game. But just because you've had a lot of success with women before, doesn't mean you don't have start from the ground up with learning game. It'll be a lot easier for you, for sure, than it is for a lot of the beginners, but you are a beginner nonetheless. Read all of the beginner guides, and practice, practice, practice. Also, just to address your post, kino isn't optional for escalating. Kino is HOW you …
/r/seduction06/12/13 03:43 AM
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When some idiot guy starts being rude like that just ignore him. Don't say anything to him or look at him and keep on with your conversation as if he didn't exist. If you say something to them, you validate what they're doing with a reaction. Not saying anything says more than saying anything, it shows you're so far above is idiocy you can't even be bothered to acknowledge him.
/r/seduction06/12/13 03:35 AM
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Texting with girls you've met online is much different. They've never met you in real life so of course they're going to be more hesitant/flaky to meet up with you. If you're asking if calling would be good as a next step after texting them, then definitely yes. Having a live conversation is a good next step if they don't want to meet up just yet. Personally, I prefer skyping with them instead, because then you can have a face to face conversation.
/r/seduction05/12/13 09:38 PM
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Check out /r/highseddit , a lot of the stuff in this sub doesn't necessarily transfer well to high school game.
/r/seduction05/12/13 06:37 AM
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You didn't escalate the third date further than the second, which probably caused her to get bored. Always escalate each date further, and by the end of the third date you should be trying to take her to bed.
/r/seduction05/12/13 06:28 AM
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Fucking dog parks, if you have a dog. You always have an instant conversation starter.
/r/seduction05/12/13 06:26 AM
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not sure if...
/r/seduction05/12/13 06:24 AM
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-Flesh out your profile fully, it doesn't have to be insanely detailed but it should give a good idea of who you are. -Get some good pictures up. Not selfies, pictures with good lighting taken by other people and try to get a couple in there of you doing something other than standing there. -When you message girls, don't just say "hey". Try to find something interesting about their profile and comment/joke on that. Don't make it too long however, the perfect amount is one or two witty/interestin…
/r/seduction05/12/13 06:19 AM
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Being in state isn't acting any certain way. Everyone has a different in state. You just have to be yourself be your BEST self. Just relax and be self amused. Do things that are fun to YOU and that amuse YOU. The more you do this, the more you will energize, and the more confident you will get. Also, you shouldn't be TRYING to get in state. If you actively are thinking "ok, I'm going to get in state now" you'll just psych yourself out. All you have to do is realize that most of the time you won'…
/r/seduction05/12/13 06:06 AM
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Good job, keep us updated!
/r/seduction05/12/13 06:00 AM
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Honestly, if you're in your 20s, calling someone is out of place in my opinion. Like you said, texting is just flat out convenient. No one likes to take a call, especially from some random guy they just met, when they're just trying to get through their day. There is the whole fact that it's "unique/unexpected" but that can be as bad as it can be good. If you do call her, you better charm the HELL out of her or she's just going to put off.
/r/seduction05/12/13 05:58 AM
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Badly worded title, if you make a commitment to be in an exclusive relationship with someone you should stop fucking gaming other women. If you don't want to stop gaming women, don't get into a relationship. However, I do agree with what your main point seems to be, which is that just because you are in a relationship doesn't mean you should shut off socially. I see this happen to people or even couples all the time. It's happened to me a couple times before I realized it, and then when the rela…
/r/seduction05/12/13 05:54 AM
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Although social interactions in general are more draining for introverts, I believe we actually do learn game easier than extroverts. This is just my observation of myself and my few friends that have learned game, but it seemed much harder for my extrovert friends to learn it because they already had such ingrained social habits that it was hard to change. On the other hand, the introverts who don't have socializing as a second nature found it easier to pick up because they didn't have to overw…
/r/seduction05/12/13 05:46 AM
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Definitely a good 'curse' to have, especially for picking up women. If you can kino like that absent mindedly, especially on sober girls, then you're ahead of the game.
/r/seduction22/11/13 07:09 AM
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Good job man, congrats on the fun night. To answer your questions, in order: I wouldn't worry about your date too much, I'm sure it'll be fine. If she seems to have a serious problem with it, go ahead and tell her that. To create more space on the floor just don't be afraid to push your way in and gently move people out of the way. Really no other way. If you want to dance close with a girl during a slow dance you have to be assertive and pull her in close the moment you start dancing with her.
/r/seduction22/11/13 07:07 AM
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You still have plenty of opportunity to ask her out. Just the next time you see her, tell her that you enjoyed hanging out before and would like to take her out. Simple as that.
/r/seduction22/11/13 07:03 AM
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With drunk girls, you can get away with much faster, bolder escalation. Take every opportunity you can to touch them, hug them, pick them up, etc. My favorite thing to do is when you meet them and shake their hand, don't let go for a long time and just keep talking to her while shaking her hand. I've done this for up to fifteen minutes with a girl before we let go. Have you ever met one of those "handsy" people? Like they just always happen to touch people when they talk? Be like them when you'r…
/r/seduction22/11/13 06:53 AM
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Risk vs. reward I suppose!
/r/seduction22/11/13 06:43 AM
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Haha there's nothing wrong with it, just take their hand and twirl them around. Always gets a laugh or high pitched "wooo!" (you know the sound) from a party girl. Or if you're feeling really confident pick her up below the waist and spin her around on your shoulder.
/r/seduction22/11/13 06:30 AM
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What observations have led you to this? I don't think any of it is true, at all. No girl goes out thinking "man oh man I hope I can find some beta pushover tonight to get into a relationship with so he'll never leave me." Sorry man but I think you have some seriously wrong perceptions here.
/r/seduction22/11/13 06:25 AM
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Be bold, forward and spontaneous. Drunk girls are easier to convince to do just about anything. Also, an important thing is to match their energy level. When a girl is out drinking and partying she doesn't want to have a serious conversation about philosophy or her childhood, she wants to get fucked up and laugh a lot. When in doubt, spin her. Drunk girls love to be spun. Also, this schoolies thing seems very interesting. I'd like to get down there at that time of the year some time.
/r/seduction22/11/13 06:18 AM
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Tinder is by definition a very superficial app, if you're not above average in attractiveness you won't have much success. Nevertheless, what I do on tinder is just hit yes for every girl, and then weed out the girls I don't like from the matches that I get. Saves time and you get more matches.
/r/seduction22/11/13 01:49 AM
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Yeah I didn't see anything wrong with the way you opened her, you were polite about it.
/r/seduction22/11/13 01:43 AM
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It's not the fact that they're douchebags that attracts girls its that they're confident with themselves.
/r/seduction22/11/13 01:41 AM
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Here's some tips for not knowing what to say: Conversations are two-way. Don't interview her. It shouldn't be you asking her a question, her responding, you asking another question, and so on. If you ask a question, after she responds, respond with some relevant information about yourself, or wait for her to ask you a question. Talk to her about stuff that's interesting to you. Don't just ask her random questions, if you ask a question make sure its something that you actually want to know. If y…
/r/seduction22/11/13 01:39 AM
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I used to have this problem BIG time. I would talk be talking to a girl and be absolutely enthralling her- whether it was making her laugh or having a deep philosophical talk, but I was getting nowhere. What I needed was to establish myself as a potential sexual partner. If you don't do this early on in the interaction, she will think you just want to be friends. So you need to sexualize the conversation as early and as often as possible. You can use your sense of humor to do it- throw in some s…
/r/seduction21/11/13 06:34 AM
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Ok, don't listen to this guy. There's nothing wrong with going out alone for the purpose of meeting women, given your circumstances. When you go out to meet women you aren't valuing their time over yours, because its what you want to be doing at that moment too. When a real man wants to get laid, he doesn't go join a book club or go watch a sports game with the hopes that some women will show up, he goes out and fucking meets women. I think what he was getting at was that you should always be se…
/r/seduction21/11/13 06:22 AM
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He's obviously extremely attractive looks wise and probably carries himself very well. Rarely you will find someone like this that just for one reason or another is naturally very attractive to women.
/r/seduction21/11/13 06:11 AM
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It would seem that you aren't in the situation he's talking about, you have a productive lifestyle that you enjoy. If you were in the situation he's talking about, you'd know.
/r/seduction29/10/13 04:12 AM
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Why the downvotes? It's the truth. It's their party, they should be able to let in/not let in whoever they want.
/r/seduction26/10/13 05:31 PM
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That's great, but realistically most other frats are more along the lines of if you're a semi-attractive female, you're in. Call it messed up but that's how it is.
/r/seduction26/10/13 05:30 PM
2

No emotions, but you have to be exclusive? Oh and she's a virgin? I'd be careful with this one, you could get in too deep pretty quickly.
/r/seduction26/10/13 08:35 AM
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This is just how frat parties are. You either need to know a lot of people there or join the fraternity to really take advantage of them. There's plenty of better things to do at night than beg your way into a party where you probably won't even know anyone. However, being in a frat and partying with them is one of the easiest ways to pick up girls I've ever seen. It's amazing social proof when literally every other guy in the room knows you and will vouch for you.
/r/seduction26/10/13 08:31 AM
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Drinking negatively affects most peoples' game (unless you are ridiculously shy and can't even talk to women sober). However, you shouldn't let that notion affect whether or not you drink. Your primary goal should be to have fun. If you feel like talking to girls all night and being on top of your game, you're going to do a lot better if you're not shitface drunk. But don't sacrifice having fun for the sake of your game. Drinking is a lot of damn fun and if you feel like drinking then do it. Dri…
/r/seduction21/10/13 10:13 PM
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I have read so many over thought complex strategies and lies that are being fed to you by pseudo "players" or whatever. Seriously some of the advice and links to blogs written by arrogant people that I cannot imagine actually work and it seems like seddit eats them up. Sort of like the advice that you're giving in this topic? Listen man, seduction isn't a science. There isn't a universal set of methods that works for everyone. The way to get the most out of this sub is just to be open minded, fi…
/r/seduction21/10/13 09:59 PM
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I have to say, I've read a lot of field reports, and this is the single best one I've ever read. Not just because it was a crushingly amazing pull, but it's probably the best, and most clear, not contradictory illustration of what learning all this stuff can change for someone. The tangent when you compared yourself to her male model friend was fantastic. It really sums up what this process is all about- not learning tricks and routines, not just "being yourself", but learning to be your BEST se…
/r/seduction21/10/13 09:53 PM
6

Models by Mark Manson is the best book out there, it's all you need to read.
/r/seduction19/10/13 09:20 PM
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If she agreed to another hangout with you, you didn't mess it up, so don't worry. Just don't even mention the first date and put it out of your mind. This time you should work more on escalating. However, escalating doesn't exactly come naturally in a study-environment, so you have to just go for it. There won't be a perfect moment, but as long as your confident with yourself when you escalate she will go with it.
/r/seduction19/10/13 09:18 PM
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Definitely go! Your main goal shouldn't be to hook up but to just have fun. Since you don't know very many people once you get there start meeting people as soon as you can. Make your own fun, don't just sit there and wait for something to happen.
/r/seduction18/10/13 07:49 PM
2

I could write a couple paragraphs that you probably wouldn't read, but instead I'll leave you this video. It really hits the nail on the head for what you need to know about self confidence/caring what others think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h64TFQpX5cM
/r/seduction18/10/13 07:35 PM
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I get what you're saying, I agree that such things can help you see what it's like to approach someone without having AA, a lot of people start approaching only when drunk and then slowly wain down to doing it sober. But recommending that OP or anyone use hard drugs as a crutch to get over AA is the absolute wrong path. There's no need to resort to such risky things when it's perfectly possible to accomplish it without drinking a drop or taking any drugs.
/r/seduction18/10/13 07:32 PM
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I get what you're saying, but reflection on your approaches is the only way to get better. There's no completely right way to do this, seduction isn't a science or puzzle. The "solutions" people offer are just their own advice, but every little bit helps. And of course there are many situations where a girl is just unavailable or uninterested. That's part of the reflection. If you are able to subconsciously apply any small piece of advice that someone gave you the next time it's relevant in an a…
/r/seduction04/10/13 10:09 PM
1

See this is why I think it'd be better to just let this one go, at least for now. If you give her attention for that entire period of time, she's going to be very invested in you by the time she's available, like you mentioned in your original post if I remember correctly. That's a whole month of dedicating time and energy towards this girl that isn't even single yet that could be spent chasing other ones. My move would be to wish her well in solving her relationship, tell her you'll be right th…
/r/seduction01/10/13 05:09 AM
1

What don't you agree with? That's exactly what I was saying, that you're going to do what you asked her to do regardless and if she doesn't come then you have no qualms about and it will go with someone else.
/r/seduction01/10/13 05:01 AM
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Hope this is a joke, if not, forget all of this and don't talk to this poor girl again. Read the stuff on the sidebar to learn the basics of how to practice seduction.
/r/seduction01/10/13 02:25 AM
1

Sucks about the error in frame controlling, but I literally laughed out loud when you said you motor-boated her right in the damn bar. That's hilarious.
/r/seduction01/10/13 01:40 AM
1

I'm all for leaving her better than you found her, but you don't want to get in too deep. This just seems like it has all the ingredients to go south really fast. If you're a virgin too, then the virginity is less of a problem, in fact probably a good thing, I wish I had lost mine to another virgin. I would really just let her solve the BF problem first. Let her know that you'll be ready and waiting if she figures it out, but then be hands off the situation.
/r/seduction01/10/13 01:11 AM
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As soon as you read this, stop what you're doing and go out. Don't plan to go in an hour or so, or tomorrow, because you won't do it. Get up the instant you finish reading this. If it's day go to the mall or a store or something, if it's night go to some bar, and approach a girl. Doesn't matter what you say, just flirt with her the best you know how (you do know how though if you've watched those videos). Don't worry about her reaction. You'll never see her again if you don't want to.
/r/seduction01/10/13 01:03 AM
2

Doesn't matter which is worse, neither are what you want to be.
/r/seduction01/10/13 12:59 AM
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As long as you used kino to keep up the sexual interaction I think you're fine. Don't worry about forcing a kiss in tomorrow morning- be aware of any opportunities to do so, but don't feel like you have to in order to keep her interested. However, next date escalate as far as possible.
/r/seduction01/10/13 12:58 AM
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Don't bother asking what their plans are. When I ask a girl to hang out I always say "Hey, I'm doing _____ tonight, you should come" or something similar. It's non-needy because it lets them know you're doing whatever you asked them to do regardless of if she comes along or not. After you've fucked them? I don't think it necessarily changes. Obviously, the more comfortable you get with someone the less it matters how you ask them, but it's basically the same concept. Just text them with somethin…
/r/seduction01/10/13 12:56 AM
1

Honestly, if it were me I would let this one go, at least for now. There is a lot of messy stuff here that you don't want to get entangled with. If she breaks up with her 3 year boyfriend and then immediately loses her virginity to you, you can bet your ass she is going to fall HARD for you. And then you'll end up with a situation where you have to fucking stomp all over this girl's heart. A similar thing happened to me last year with a freshman girl, and believe me it was a horrible time. I kno…
/r/seduction01/10/13 12:46 AM
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Seems to me just like a slightly bizarre last minute shit test. You did the right thing by disregarding her shenanigans and continuing with what you knew both of you wanted to happen. By definition, yes you did use a qualification technique, but I think what more won this for you was the fact that you weren't phased by her bullshit and were confident enough to keep going.
/r/seduction30/09/13 09:52 PM
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Just because you're the one to initiate doesn't make you needy. A real man takes what he wants when he wants it. No need to play games, if you want to fuck her again let her know. If she declines, don't give it another thought and move on to the next girl in your phone. When she sees that you don't give a fuck about her declining your offer and are perfectly fine moving on and have plenty of other options (or at least appear to) that's when she'll begin initiating. Also, some girls are simply NE…
/r/seduction30/09/13 09:44 PM
1

Totally agree. He played it perfectly. She specifically stated that she hated the whole "club game" that most guys try to run. With that SOI, he showed he was above all those guys, that he didn't need to hide behind games to show his sexual interest in her. The timing of it (pre-makeout) showed even more boldness because usually more escalation takes place before such an SOI. He showed that he didn't give a shit about convention and felt completely confident in expressing his sexual interest tow…
/r/seduction30/09/13 09:36 PM
2

It's not as bad of a thing as you may think. Gay guys tend to have some qualities that for a straight guy would be very attractive, such as taking care of their appearance and comfortability around women. How many times have you heard a girl say "I think ____ is so sexy if only he wasn't gay" or something similar? I've had a couple girls ask me this one time or another, and each time I've just said "well, I'm not" and then proceeded to fucking sweep them off their feet. If you are really bothere…
/r/seduction30/09/13 09:25 PM
1

It's a success in the way that he has a date with a girl coming up.
/r/seduction29/09/13 11:42 PM
2

Don't change your sense of humor to please other people. Always be yourself. You won't please everyone, but you'll make amazing relationships with the ones that you do.
/r/seduction29/09/13 08:02 PM
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Seduction is a push-pull game. Girls don't want to give in easily because they will feel like a slut. You said that she didn't want to kiss but you were eventually able to get her to do that, it's the same concept for escalating further. After she rejects your advance, brush it right off and just continue to flirt more and build more comfort with her, and then eventually try again. Sometimes you will hit a definite brick wall (some girls just have standards for themselves and will never go past …
/r/seduction29/09/13 07:58 PM
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Are you, as far as you can tell, really attractive? Because that would make this make more sense. Nevertheless, congrats!
/r/seduction29/09/13 07:53 PM
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Nothing wrong with relishing in your success sometimes. I like to hear about people succeeding at this stuff.
/r/seduction29/09/13 07:52 PM
2

Don't call her, and forget the "do you know who this is" stuff, that's just weird. Send her text letting her know who it is and asking her if she wants to study. If she declines, don't take it personally, she may have just had something already planned or wanted to study by herself. Also a tip for when getting girls numbers is to text them immediately with your name so they'll have yours (and another bonus is whenever they open up their recent text messages your name will be right there). When y…
/r/seduction29/09/13 07:48 PM
2

The way I fixed a similar situation was just to treat strangers like my best friend. Just talk to anyone you can about whatever is on your mind. Some people won't be receptive, but others you'll make awesome connections with. Try to think of a time where you were the most social you've ever been. Such as a party, event or something where you just talked and had fun with everyone there. Think about the vibe you had there and act like that in your interactions with people. You may have to think ab…
/r/seduction28/09/13 12:56 AM
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Seems like you have great motivation, which is really the best and most instrumental tool you can have in this process. So that's a great thing. What I would suggest now for you is just to approach approach approach. Nothing will help you improve more and faster than approaching. And after you approach, analyze each one just like you did here, whether it is in an FR or just in your mind. Approaching constantly is uncomfortable at first, but you'll really be surprised at just how fast you improve…
/r/seduction28/09/13 12:45 AM
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When a guy hits on a girl, her natural reaction is to push away, even if they are actually very interested. Don't take that as her not liking you. Always assume attraction until you get a full-out rejection. It's a push-pull game. The way to come off as not needy isn't to not try hard, but to be confident and have no shame with the fact that you're hitting on her. You think she's attractive and are putting forth effort to get to know her better, and you are not afraid of her knowing this, in fac…
/r/seduction28/09/13 12:31 AM
2

I honestly love the rating system, that's the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Going to use that.
/r/seduction28/09/13 12:22 AM
2

Agreed. I think what's not advised with texting is those long, drawn out text conversations. Nothing wrong with a little playful conversation to remind her why she gave out her number in the first place.
/r/seduction28/09/13 12:21 AM
2

So your solution is just to stop contacting every girl after you sleep with them? Nice. Are you just going to keep picking up girls in bars every weekend for the rest of your life? If that's what you want, then hiding behind your borrowed lines is fine. But what if you ever want to build a lasting relationship with a woman? Are you just going to work game on her for the rest of your life?
/r/seduction20/09/13 03:16 PM
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I don't think the natural game movement is as simple as "just be yourself and be confident and you'll do fine." Natural game is about bringing out your BEST self when you're with women. It's about being confident enough in yourself to form real, personal connections with women instead of using tried and tested routines. Clearly, there are a lot of basic concepts that everyone who practices seduction should know such as kino escalation, social proof, being self-amused and outcome-independent, bei…
/r/seduction20/09/13 03:38 AM
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Good job with so many approaches, a lot of people don't have the balls to approach that many in one day. Just keeping doing it though, the more you approach the more comfortable you'll get doing it. Comfort is key to success in these day game approaches. Because of how rarely girls get directly approached like that, you're not going to make a good impression unless you have rock solid confidence. And all it takes to get that is time and experience. I'd say something that you can work towards rig…
/r/seduction20/09/13 02:59 AM
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If you're looking for long term relationships I definitely think it'd be advisable to not f-close the first day you meet her, unless there's undeniable chemistry and you're both sober. However, I've definitely known a lot of people that have formed long-term relationships from same night lays. As the man, it's up to you to salvage it and diffuse any awkwardness if you want to keep seeing the girl.
/r/seduction20/09/13 02:38 AM
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Good point. Some girls' neutral faces just look bitchy.
/r/seduction20/09/13 02:26 AM
2

I really loved your writing style in this, if you have that same sense of humor in real life you'll do really well at this stuff.
/r/seduction19/09/13 09:13 PM
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If anything it just shows you enjoy having fun with your friends and don't care what anyone thinks if you happen to drink a little too much here and there, both of which are attractive attributes (not the drinking itself, but the fact that you are self amused and don't care what anyone thinks). And if SHE added you on facebook, then you're probably doing just fine.
/r/seduction19/09/13 04:41 AM
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I definitely agree, that's a great way to think of it. Moreover, I feel that this case is the rare opportunity where the girl not only does what she want but says it too. This girl was not afraid to be honest with him and tell him how off-putting he was. Other girls would have just flaked and avoided him, but she told him exactly how she felt. A little unnerving, but a great learning experience.
/r/seduction17/09/13 04:53 PM
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THANK YOU. All these people saying she is crazy are wrong. She is just less afraid to speak her mind than most girls. OP, you made it very clear that you were a player, from the whole "I usually wait a day don't want to seem too interested" thing to asking the other girl for her number. I don't think it was your intention to come off like that, but that's definitely what happened. And even then, some girls (perhaps those with lower self esteem) wouldn't have minded this and still met up with you…
/r/seduction17/09/13 03:27 PM
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People like to use different reference numbers such as approaching ____ amount of girls before you get success, but the process is different for everyone. I'll just tell you how it worked for me. I started out like you described, just reading Seddit occasionally for about half a year. I got the gist of the whole thing, and used certain things that I learned occasionally but never really actively plunged into it. I got occasional hookups, and an f-close once in a blue moon, but I never really att…
/r/seduction17/09/13 03:40 AM
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Great job here man. I really like that you were respectful of her friend and didn't try to get your girl to ditch her even though you probably could have. Classy move, and I'm sure she thinks highly of you for it. It also showed you weren't needy/outcome dependent and led to her coming to find you at the end to say goodbye and not the other way around. I would definitely text her see where it goes. Also great job winging, seems like your friend didn't really know how to handle it but you really …
/r/seduction17/09/13 02:40 AM
2

Yes race is a factor, but only a factor. There are many other factors that determine attraction, some a lot more important than race. Also, it's not a factor in the way that some races are universally considered more attractive than others. Each women has their own preferences.
/r/seduction17/09/13 02:26 AM
1

I think he meant that basically anyone can get a girl's number pretty easily, but that doesn't mean anything unless you establish a real connection with them that they will remember for more than an hour or two.
/r/seduction16/09/13 09:08 PM
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You did great in opening her, very well done. As far as the texting went, instead of what you replied with the second time, I would have went ahead and asked her to get coffee or study for the class together. But you still have time to do that. How long has it been since you sent the second text? If it was only today, she must just be busy with class or something.
/r/seduction16/09/13 09:04 PM
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Being the best man is about the best social proof you can get, and you used it to it's full advantage. Great job man.
/r/seduction16/09/13 05:19 PM
1

I get that you're trying to show that you don't take yourself seriously with it, but I just can't see that particular line coming off well to anyone but extremely drunk/bottom-of-the-barrel personality-wise girls. I understand your style, as I said I like all the other ones. I mainly just objected to it because I personally can not picture this going over well on any woman with half a brain. But as you said you've field tested them, so if it worked for you I suppose there's no harm in sharing. A…
/r/seduction16/09/13 03:44 PM
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I like all of them except #1. I have no idea how that would come off well to anyone. It's not even cocky-funny, it's just stupid. And in my opinion, a better way to phrase #2 would be "I don't need a lighter, I just wanted to talk to you" instead of "Don't you hate it when...", it seems less rehearsed and more spontaneous. Otherwise, solid list.
/r/seduction16/09/13 02:47 AM
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Just my opinion, but I don't think you should use something like "are you as interesting as you look?" in daygame. At a nightclub where girls are expecting to be approached by guys it would be fine, but in the time daytime when a girl is just trying to go along with her day she doesn't want a guy to come up and tell her how he's been observing her from afar. You don't need a canned opener to open someone in daygame (you don't in nightgame either, but I digress). Just make casual, playful convers…
/r/seduction13/09/13 06:38 PM
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Don't pursue any romantic relationship with this girl. If it goes wrong, you have to see her in EVERY class, and that will be extremely distracting and prevent you from doing as well in your classes. Just be her friend, at least for this semester while you guys have every class together. It's a great thing to have a friend in every class, especially a female one that can potentially introduce you to other girls. If you still feel an undeniable urge to be with her, you can pursue it next semester…
/r/seduction13/09/13 06:38 AM
1

No problem and good luck!
/r/seduction23/08/13 11:44 PM
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Talk to her straight up about it and see what's going on.
/r/seduction23/08/13 11:39 PM
0

Actually, I know I said weeknights, but you may want to call her sooner. Monday might be too far for her to recall anything about the interaction you two had. I would try calling her tomorrow or Sunday at the latest. Sorry for that confusion.
/r/seduction23/08/13 11:37 PM
2

There's really no ideal time to call, if it were me I would try giving her a ring at around 8-9pm on a weeknight, that's usually when a lot of people tend to be done with the day but not settled too far into their night yet. If she doesn't pick up leave a message asking her out, and then the ball is in her court. If she doesn't respond, just move on. Also I wouldn't add her on facebook yet.
/r/seduction23/08/13 11:16 PM
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For the first one, I think calling would be the best way to get her attention. Since you said it was quick, depending on how long ago this was, she's more than likely forgot about you (girls get approached multiple times per day). If you text her, she has an easy out by just not responding. If you call, she'll either have to definitively reject you or just give you a shot (she'll probably pick this option).
/r/seduction23/08/13 11:03 PM
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For many girls taking out their phone is a nervous habit. They don't even realize they are doing it, or realize that it looks rude. You just need to tell them straight up "it's rude to take out your phone so much." No need for any hinting or teasing. If they are actually interested in you, they will stop if you tell them this.
/r/seduction23/08/13 10:57 PM
12

Ask her out. Ask her out.
/r/seduction23/08/13 10:48 PM
2

It's not necessarily a shit test. If she rejects you once, chances are she won't change her mind. Many girls just don't come to the dance floor to hook up with guys. They may just want to have fun with friends, are in a relationship, or don't want to look like a slut. Or they may just not find you attractive enough- the dance floor is a very superficial place. You can try to reapproach as long as you don't let the rejection get to you, but you'd be better off showing anyone who's watching that y…
/r/seduction23/08/13 10:34 PM
5

Just introduce yourself like you would to anyone, girls are people too. Be friendly, cheerful and open minded. There will be plenty of time for flirting and all else later, you will be living right next to them of course. Of course, if you hit it off extremely well with one of them by all means pursue it, but just remember that it may be better to be friends with these girls, as you will be living so close to them. Female friends are a great thing to have in college, they will undoubtedly have h…
/r/seduction23/08/13 10:27 PM
2

Don't overthink it, just let the interaction flow naturally. If you start trying to think of an artificial time that you need to do any certain thing you will lose the feel and mood of what's going in front of you. If you are hitting it off well with a set you can start investing in them immediately, as soon as you feel comfortable enough to do so. Trust in yourself, you probably have better judgement that you realize. If you start grinding with a random girl on the dance floor you're going to b…
/r/seduction23/08/13 10:21 PM
2

Being confident about PUA (or anything) doesn't mean you have to tell everyone about it. Part of being confident with yourself is knowing what to share, and being content with keeping some things about yourself private. Unfortunately the truth is that PUA/seduction is just not looked favorably upon by the general public as of now. That doesn't mean it's a bad thing or that you should be any less confident about doing it, but some people WILL look down on you if you tell them about it. Now, if yo…
/r/seduction23/08/13 10:11 PM
2

Seems like she seduced you here, you didn't even have to do anything. Can you tell us more about how you interacted with her at the office, to attract her like this? Or are you just really attractive?
/r/seduction04/08/13 07:38 PM
1

The key to dancing is not giving a fuck what anyone else thinks. Someone doesn't like your dancing? Fuck them and move on to the next person. No one likes your dancing? Who cares. Be self amused. Have a blast with yourself. Girls are attracted to fun guys in clubs. If they see you having a blast dancing by yourself they will be attracted to you. If you want to, start by just turning up your favorite music at your apartment and just go crazy dancing by yourself for 30 mins. It's all about getting…
/r/seduction29/07/13 03:36 AM
1

Better to dance horribly. Here's a secret: NO ONE except for those trained in dancing actually know how to dance. Everyone is out there making stuff up. Girls don't know how to dance either. It's just about being confident and having fun while doing it. And of course, the more you do it, the more comfortable you'll become. I would suggest going out a few nights to simply dance and not even hit on women. Just learn how to dance and have fun with yourself.
/r/seduction29/07/13 03:07 AM
3

What? No need to completely abandon ship because a girl rejects your advance once. Kino escalation is a push and pull game. You need to be comfortable with getting those small rejections.
/r/seduction29/07/13 12:55 AM
1

Ok you don't need to go find an extra person or whatever, don't worry about that. To do this you need to make the other girl like you just as much as the girl you're interested in does, probably even more than she does. Not necessarily in a sexual way, but she needs to swimmingly approve of you. The other girl isn't there to completely cockblock her friend, she just doesn't want her going home with a loser. If you win her approval, she will not impede you and may even help you out. She's not obl…
/r/seduction29/07/13 12:53 AM
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You definitely don't want to let them have power on you, but there is nothing wrong with calling someone out on their rudeness. I think either doing what OP said or doing what you said are both valid solutions to this. Really the only thing you shouldn't do is let them be rude to you and not say anything about it.
/r/seduction29/07/13 12:45 AM
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I mean yeah, being vulnerable may lose you some of the shallow hookups that you can bag using PUA game, but you don't want those anyway. if you want to have healthy, positive, yet still sexual and engaging relationships with women, you have to be honest and vulnerable with them. Read Models by Mark Manson, it's a book that goes into this much more in depth.
/r/seduction29/07/13 12:31 AM
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It's not crap, that may have been the wrong word to use. What I meant is that many PUA tactics such as those covered in the game are created for guys that can't attract women in a more conventional way. In your case, I think your dilemma is purely mental. You don't have to game because you have everything that girls want- good looks, a good job, and good hobbies. You don't need any game, just need to be confident and own who you are.
/r/seduction29/07/13 12:27 AM
4

This just shows how beneficial it is to have a big social circle. The multiple instances you showed social proof really helped you in attracting that girl.
/r/seduction28/07/13 08:46 PM
4

Strong eye contact, smiling, and turning the conversation sexual as much as possible. Though, as others have said, you have to touch her eventually.
/r/seduction28/07/13 06:41 PM
1

If you're going to college, that will be a supreme place at your age to meet all kinds of women. If you're not going to college, well the become friends with people who are and go to their events and parties. Absolutely nothing compares to the prospects of college at your age.
/r/seduction28/07/13 05:53 AM
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Dude, you have absolutely no reason to be thinking like that. You are a fit, attractive guy with a good job and awesome hobbies. That is the epitome of what women want. You don't need crap like The Game to go out and meet women--that is for people that don't have what you have. Just be your awesome self and women will love you.
/r/seduction28/07/13 05:50 AM
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In places like this you literally don't need to talk to them. Girls don't go to clubs like that to talk. They go to dance with guys and feel sexy. All you have to do is have a fun, sexy vibe, ask her name, and take her to dance. Also though, don't expect to meet your soulmate at places like this. A one night stand is pretty much all you can hope for.
/r/seduction28/07/13 05:44 AM
1

You should apologize for insulting her. Even if what you said was true it's not cool or manly for you to insult her like that. Just sincerely apologize, then you guys are square and then the ball is in her court. She obviously is very attracted to you, so just keep doing your thing with other girls and if she still wants to fuck you eventually it will happen. If not, no big deal anyways.
/r/seduction28/07/13 05:36 AM
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I have to say, what an absolutely winning mentality. For all the things working against you here, you stayed positive and had a good time. You were confidence in yourself, danced like no one cared, and didn't let anything get you down. It takes some people years to get that stuff down. As for what you can improve on, the biggest one is obviously the weight aspect. Clubs and bars are superficial places and looking healthy and in shape will make things 100x easier. Some of the stuff you said was k…
/r/seduction28/07/13 05:27 AM
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You have a lot to learn. Learning seduction is a very gradual process that takes time. You can't expect results the first time you go out. I'll point out a few things you did wrong just for the sake of learning from your mistakes, but really there is lot you need to do before you can expect results. -You talk about having social proof as "one less thing to worry about"-- you shouldn't be worried about anything. You should be there to have fun. -Whatever it takes, get comfortable dancing. It's no…
/r/seduction28/07/13 05:08 AM
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Agreed, "i have a boyfriend" is hardly ever a shit test. 99% of girls would not say that to a guy they had any kind of interest in. Because if anything ended up happening, what girl wants to be known as the girl who cheated on her boyfriend? Girls say this when they have no interest in you-- which doesn't necessarily mean it's your fault, many times it's just the wrong place at the wrong time.
/r/seduction28/07/13 04:49 AM
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Just as she said, YOU have to take control. You won't learn what to do from tips on reddit. You have to think about what truly turns YOU on, and do that to her. Don't think too much about it, just do what comes naturally and feels best to you. If you aggressively pursue what turns you on while making out/having sex with her, that will be the sexiest thing in the world for her.
/r/seduction28/07/13 04:44 AM
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You just have to keep going. You will never find the right girl, until you do. A way to speed up that process is to just be as honest as you can with women. Leave nothing to their imagination about who you are, and what you expect from them. PUA game will get you laid, but if you want someone to settle down with you have to put yourself truly out there and be vulnerable.
/r/seduction28/07/13 04:40 AM
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Remember to not just appear to be happy and interested, but actually try to BE happy and interested. Faking a personality gets you nowhere in the long run.
/r/seduction28/07/13 04:18 AM
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Whatever it takes, get to a mental state in life where you are PROUD of yourself. However you accomplish this doesn't matter, but if you genuinely LIKE who you are as a person, seduction becomes so much easier. You don't have to remember any dumb rules about how to act, or how to perceive yourself, you just do what comes naturally. Think of it like you're a salesman pitching a product to a customer-- if you actually sincerely like the product, pitching it to someone will come effortlessly. Whate…
/r/seduction28/07/13 04:17 AM
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If you don't like texting, just be honest and genuine about it. Probably an unheard of thing to do in high school (in fact it definitely is- I remember high school) but that doesn't mean it won't work. Texting only seems "necessary" these days because it's what a lot of kids your age do- they like to hide behind technology because it's less risky than real life conversation. Even though it's popular, that doesn't mean constant texting is actually is necessary. Obviously some communication throug…
/r/seduction19/07/13 04:37 PM
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It seems like an impossible task at first but all it takes is practice. You'll have to get out there and fail a bunch of times before you see success, but once you do it's all uphill from there. Also important to know is that the dance floor is a very superficial place, and looks are very important, so the better you dress and groom yourself the much better you'll do.
/r/seduction26/06/13 07:18 AM
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Actually yes. I mean obviously talking a little is fine such as exchanging names and maybe flirting a little, but the dance floor is all about nonverbal communication. And it's not exactly as risky or offensive as "the naked man", people do it all the time, but it is good to think about it in the way that it works sometimes and doesn't other times. You may have to work through quite a few women to find one that will be receptive, but once you do you'll forget the others existed.
/r/seduction26/06/13 12:29 AM
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A situation like this isn't really a place to try and take her outside to talk first unless you have immense chemistry. She's there because she wants to dance and feel sexy, not because she wants to talk. If you indulge her in the previous things, then you guys can talk later.
/r/seduction25/06/13 05:13 PM
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The conversation should be just as much about you as it is about her. Asking her questions is a good way to get things started, but you have to get her interested in YOU. If you haven't said anything about yourself that piqued their interest, why would they want to know more? The way to keep a conversation going is not to just keep asking questions, but to discuss something where both of you are interested in what the other person has to say.
/r/seduction24/06/13 08:04 PM
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Don't hate on the first ever seduction technique!
/r/seduction15/04/13 02:27 AM
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Well said. Being easy to talk to is actually a big turn on for girls, but in order for you to turn them on at all they have to see you as a person of sexual interest.
/r/seduction10/04/13 09:54 PM
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I've been doing the tictactoe thing for a while too, it works like a charm every time.
/r/seduction10/04/13 09:48 PM
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Take out the baby and this would be good.
/r/seduction13/03/13 04:07 AM
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You can interchange the first couple lines to anything that allows you to get to the "what's the craziest thing you've ever done?" question. Very good technique.
/r/seduction18/02/13 05:41 PM
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She was basically "playing hard to get." She somewhat rudely turned him down for a dance to see how he would handle it and if he would try and convince her again. His reaction showed that he wasn't phased by her bullshit, and the way he approached her next made him look smooth and her feel wanted.
/r/seduction18/02/13 05:37 PM
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When I first meet a girl I try to observe something about her that I can ask an interesting question or make a unique statement about. Something that requires her actually telling you something about herself to answer. It could be as simple as "that's an interesting bracelet, where'd you get it?" Don't make it an interview though, when she tells you about herself share something relevant about you and go back and forth like that. Small talk about the particular situation and safe topics are good…
/r/seduction18/02/13 08:18 AM
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I think it's a useful tactic if you can't think of anything else to open with. It'll probably be obvious to most girls that you just wanted an excuse to talk to them, but it gives you an opening nonetheless. That said you'll need to say something that actually piques their interest pretty quickly after that if you want to keep their attention.
/r/seduction18/02/13 07:52 AM
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Yeah this is what I would have done too. There's no clear answer here that would work, you just have to give it your best shot. If your goal was to get with HB8, then there's no way you would wouldn't have been seen as a threat to the guys. You never know what could happen though, that's why you always just have to go for it.
/r/seduction18/02/13 07:42 AM
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Congrats, man! You handled that shit test really well.
/r/seduction18/02/13 07:32 AM
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If you are to the point where she is accepting your hand on the small of her back she obviously is receptive to you and you should see where you can take it. Conversation lulls happen all the time, no need to panic and eject. Not everything you say needs to be golden, you've already attracted her at this point. Say something ridiculous. Tell a cheesy joke. If it misses, chances are she'll forget about it in five seconds. Life's too short not to swing for the fences, man.
/r/seduction18/02/13 06:14 AM
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Exactly. By daygaming spontaneously you aren't inconveniencing yourself in any way and have nothing to feel bad about if it doesn't work out, other than a momentary feeling of "oh darn." Going out with sole intention to daygame is just setting yourself up for disappointment.
/r/seduction18/02/13 06:05 AM
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My advice would be to use something that can be easily threaded into a full on conversation. So many guys try to use witty openers and then crash and burn soon after. Start with something simple, genuine and unique enough to where it shows you tried (no "hey whats up") but doesn't set a standard that is too high for you to keep up. If she responds that means she is actually interested in meeting you, not just responding to your ridiculous opener.
/r/seduction18/02/13 06:00 AM
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I think you are absolutely right when you say that dedicating a day to using daygame is inherently outcome-seeking. In my opinion daygame should be something you spontaneously work on as you become a better PUA but not something you rely on consistently.
/r/seduction18/02/13 05:47 AM
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Well said. You keep getting disappointed because you're going into these flings expecting them to turn into something more. While it's good to know what you want, you need to keep an open mind and low expectations in these relationships.
/r/seduction18/02/13 05:43 AM
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It works so well because, for lack of a better term, it messes with them. It makes them uncomfortable, throws them off. It lets her know that you're not just going to give her attention, she's going to have to work for it because you're awesome and don't give it to just anyone. It's a great demonstration of high-value. Instead of her seeing your text and thinking "oh there's a text from that guy again, he's pretty nice I guess" she'll be seeing a blank phone and wondering "is he going to text me…
/r/seduction18/02/13 05:36 AM
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Still, if you truly consider someone a friend, grabbing a girl right out from under them just because you can is a huge dick move. Even if that's not your point, it's just not a good thing to do in any situation.
/r/seduction18/02/13 05:23 AM
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This is the right answer. He needs to find his own way with women, your job as a friend is just to support him in success and failure.
/r/seduction18/02/13 05:21 AM
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You're not just looking for a girl here but for a best friend. Actively looking for it will be hard and will drive you crazy. There is no telling when or where you will find a girl like this. The best thing you can do is just live your life, be true to yourself and your hobbies, and always be open to people. Good luck my friend.
/r/seduction18/02/13 05:18 AM
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Although Seddit can be very inspirational and motivational, I wouldn't exactly call it the first place to come when you need cheering up. That's what subreddits like /r/GetMotivated and the like are for. We definitely know what people who post those things are going through, and can acknowledge just how SHITTY a situation like that is(most of us have been through it), but this isn't the place to go for sympathy. This is the place to pick yourself up using all the great tools that are available r…
/r/seduction18/02/13 05:11 AM
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It's definitely good to be well informed about common situations for ADVICE of what to do but you should never dictate exactly what you say based off what you read here.
/r/seduction18/02/13 04:57 AM
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Ask yourself ultimately what you want from this girl. Do you want to see where it goes and possibly make her your girlfriend? Do you just want a fuck buddy or a platonic friend? Or do you just want a couple nights of fun and then move on? If you really just stop and think about what you want from the girl and where you can see it going it should be clear how much effort and time you should put forth. However, for ANY girl, you shouldn't put forth so much effort that it interferes with your daily…
/r/seduction18/02/13 04:55 AM
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Try not to flirt too much over text, that's something that should be done in real life. If you are constantly feeling the need to use emoticons you are having the wrong kind of text conversations.Text is a great tool for keeping the interest alive and facilitating meetups but it shouldn't be something that you have long conversations with. It's too comfortable of a situation for her.
/r/seduction24/01/13 11:38 PM
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She obviously liked you enough to have sex. However, some girls, flirty as they may be at the bar, just don't go home with guys on the first night. A lot of pick up artists will tell you they can get any girl to go home with them, or that you didn't get laid here because you messed up in some way, but the real answer is that she just would not have gone home with any guy that she had just met. You can easily land this woman by just going out with her a couple more times to make her more comforta…
/r/seduction24/01/13 11:35 PM
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This is all great, now go out and talk to two women today and report back to us.
/r/seduction23/12/12 05:42 PM
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Do you think it'd be less rude for a girl to say "you are revolting, get the hell away from me"? I don't think it's rude when they lie about having a boyfriend, they're letting you off easy from the fact that they want nothing to do with you and giving you the thought that they actually may be unavailable.
/r/seduction23/12/12 05:38 PM
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Not sure what exactly this is going to help with. Yeah, a lot of guys say ridiculous things to women. That's not really news.
/r/seduction19/12/12 04:59 AM
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You shouldn't put forth effort and time for people that won't do the same for you. You seem like a pretty cool dude, there are plenty of women out there that will respect your time and genuinely want to be with you. Don't settle for someone who, by all accounts, was only marginally interested from the start. As for your experience, everyone fucks up like this at one time or another. Now you have a great example of what not to do. Get back out there.
/r/seduction19/12/12 04:54 AM
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I really hope this app stays popular and relevant, because it is MADE for flirting. The concept makes the atmosphere playful from the start, and pictures allow you to convey sarcasm and wit in a way you can't with texting, as well as keep up the physical tension. And the fact that the pictures last only a short time and then can't be seen again by either party allows you to not dwell on or care too much about what you say. Obviously not a substitute for real interaction, but it's definitely a gr…
/r/seduction17/12/12 12:44 AM
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About the conversational anxiety, I think you just need to relax during conversations. It seems like you think about PUA tactics all the time and plan your interactions meticulously through them. While PUA tactics are good advice to keep in mind, and you did pretty good in the airplane interaction, you shouldn't map out every conversation you have with a girl based on them. Just relax and actually treat girls like they're people you are interested in getting to know instead of just scapegoats fo…
/r/seduction16/12/12 07:20 PM
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The way I got through this problem was just to stop carefully planning every little thing that I was going to say and just trusting myself. If you want to flirt or bring up sex with her, just do it. Some of the field reports posted on here kind of give out a vibe that to seduce a woman you have to say the exact right things at the right time. The truth is that you will rarely ever have a perfect moment and you will rarely ever say the exact right things. It's all about taking chances, owning up …
/r/seduction06/12/12 03:39 AM
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Can't wait to try this.
/r/seduction04/12/12 05:51 AM
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Go up to them and say Hi.
/r/seduction03/12/12 06:38 AM
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Just ask them. There is nothing needy/clinging about wanting to get to know someone after you've hooked up. Some will say no, but most girls will totally be open to hanging out again if you just ask them.
/r/seduction03/12/12 06:35 AM
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You didn't mess up as bad as you think you did here. It seems to me that she meant what she said, that she led you on and had no intention of having sex with you that night. She just wanted male attention. I don't think you ruined your chances with lack of foreplay skills and not freezing her out, you just didn't help your case any. And not freezing her out doesn't make you come off as needy, it just says to her that you won't get mad at her for being a selfish flaker. There is no telling whethe…
/r/seduction03/12/12 06:22 AM
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Very nice. Anything you can say about what to do when you have bad logistics? My dorm is a 5-10 minute walk from most parties.
/r/seduction29/10/12 06:03 PM
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Love the first one.
/r/seduction08/10/12 12:02 AM
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Very nice post, I'm a freshman that has been getting used to the college game this past month. I really like your classroom strategy. For all my big lectures I've been trying to open a cute girl each time, which is extremely easy..."Hey this class is so hard!" "I know right?" "We should study together sometime, what's your number?" is basically all it takes. I could definitely be putting forth more effort just to talk to EVERYONE though. I also think that you can expand the classroom strategy to…
/r/seduction28/09/12 08:51 PM
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For the most part, it doesn't matter what your "skill" is, as long as you are talented and passionate about it. There obviously are exceptions, you're not going to impress a girl by being really good at video games, but I think girls are attracted to a guy that is passionate and successful at what he does, no matter what it is.
/r/seduction28/09/12 08:28 PM
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Night game is ridiculously easy compared to day game. You're going to have a lot of fun.
/r/seduction28/09/12 08:10 PM
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Great advice for any pick up artist. Should be on the sidebar.
/r/seduction28/09/12 08:06 PM
2

You seem very smooth, congrats man.
/r/seduction25/09/12 07:05 AM
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I disagree completely, I think this subreddit's most valuable resources are found in help with your inner game. The worst thing a person to new to pick up can do is try to read up about "outer game" and what to do and say in any possible situation. The best way and only way to truly learn how to attract women is experience, and what newcomers need the most is the confidence to go out and get that experience, and the pep talks to get through the inevitable failures and learning curve. I do think …
/r/seduction18/09/12 08:38 PM
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For most girls you can't just make out with them for a while and then expect them to come back with you. You have to make her want to go further. You have to take things to a level where she wants more and sex is the only thing that will satisfy her. Don't just aimlessly make out with her for the whole night, escalate things slowly and deliberately. Start with just making out but then slowly intensify things. Kiss her more passionately, kiss her ears and neck, whisper to her and flirt some more.…
/r/seduction17/09/12 06:32 AM
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I wouldn't make the gym a priority for pick up. You should focus on your workout while you're there. There's no point in thinking up openers. However, if you see a girl you want really want to talk to, by all means do that. Just make sure you don't go to the gym just to try to pick up girls.
/r/seduction13/09/12 04:51 AM
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First I'd say have a drink or two, it will loosen you up. Only one or two though. Like many things in pick up getting a girl to dance with you is a numbers game. Start dancing on your own and having a good time, and take any opportunity you see to approach a girl you want to dance with. Don't put a whole lot of pressure on yourself for the approach, because even if you're the best dancer and smoothest guy in the world there is a chance the girl may just not want to dance with anyone. If a girl i…
/r/seduction13/09/12 04:19 AM
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I think everyone that breaks through should get a cake like this.
/r/seduction09/09/12 06:48 PM
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You've been as courteous as you can be in a situation like this. There are many reasons a girl may not want to talk to you again after a one night stand, so don't worry about it too much. Congrats on the sex, though.
/r/seduction09/09/12 04:31 PM
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