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In Asia. Even then, modern white people in the west have a standard that actually differs from the ironically still eurocentric standards in Asia eg a more mature look, squarer jaws, tan skin on men, maybe even smaller eyes. I also know from personal experience I had natural preferences that got slowly more and more eurocentric, I began to check for white women a lot more, as I grew up and watched more american media. I did not start out that way and preferred darker skin and different facial fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:40 PM
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Which makes it racist. Eurocentric beauty isn't inherently or objectively superior. No offense asians can be extremely racist both in how they view themselves as above others and as how they (not all) view whites as above others or them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:35 PM
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It's something primal it doesn't have to make sense in the modern world. That's why anxiety exists. Our brains still live in a world where a saber-toothed tiger could attack us and we react accordingly even though it's not a tiger and our lives aren't in danger, it's a work deadline. It's why many women like broad shoulders or nice arms even though physical strength is no longer necessary for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:33 PM
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Realest comment of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:24 PM
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u/gloomett3 Kai Cenat is an example of someone who would not be euro-adjacent, But I know there's nobody in your folder like him b/c he's not the type you go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:16 PM
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The guy was an idiot, but the woman overreacted to him being an idiot by using it as a springboard to make another circle-jerk misandric post on twox. I can just imagine her steaming about it all day like she couldn't wait to go home and tell the hivemind. Or maybe she didn't even wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:11 PM
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It's again b/c there's this idea that at least hookups involve real desire and relationships potentially may not b/c of prevailing concepts like AFBB. They have a point honestly - to an extent, but even if you disagree you can argue that instead of assuming they just want to sleep around as the nuance there is pretty glaring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:02 PM
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It's hard to see where this was coming from originally. Are the men who complain about being lonely here also the ones with the big fuckboi aspirations? I don't doubt they exist but overall I'd say many if not most of these men would not mind or even prefer a single devoted partner. Lot of these men are hopeless romantics turned bitter. Doesn't mean they don't have some growing up to do, but it's not this idea that they are lonely so they want to pump-and-dump indiscriminately either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:58 PM
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Most men (at least here) would rather be desired sexually and physically as an object than used as an asexual wallet for years or until death do us part. Genuine visceral desire is the indispensable backbone of any relationship, ONS, casual, or long-term; men who are starved of female affection focus on this b/c they've never (or perceive) been actually desired. ONS and hookups promise real desire, LTR and marriages do not. But you can def have it both ways, meaning real desire, real fulfilling …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:54 PM
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I'd agree, except most of these men aren't getting hookups either and just want to be desired; they have the view that a lot of long-term boyfriends and husbands are not desired. If you're talking about the fuckboi who gets jaded over the years then yeah you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:48 PM
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He looks european adjacent af. He looks even more white-adjacent than your typical good looking light-skin women fawn over, much less the typical black guy, handsome or not. It's not surprising b/c your barometer is set to that type you have no idea how white-looking he is. I'm going to guess that you even went out of your way to show the least white-adjacent person you have in your folder and chose this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:23 PM
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White or white adjacent. If they're non-white they probably conform to a very conventional aesthetic popular among white boys or there are other things like facial features or structure more similar to white people or in line with european ideals. If I'm wrong you're more than welcome to prove it with a few examples, either way makes no diff to me. Edit: Also this is bordering on race-talk anyway and I keep forgetting we can't talk about race here even if it's something you can't ignore if you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:12 PM
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Tbf I also just stop responding too. I'd like to think if they have a legitimate point, I'll acknowledge it even though I won't entirely concede or agree and I've done so many times in the past. But if it's someone who's obviously too far gone, too bullheaded or drowning in their delusion and inability to follow logic, someone who will clearly continue responding in bad faith, I just stop. There's no referee doling out official calls of winner or loser and most people aren't arguing to learn or …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:02 PM
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I don't mean this as a jab at all but you keep saying you're afraid to show __________ for fear of judgment from ppl but just like your folder of white tiktok boys, it's not like anyone is going to be surprised by whatever you post. You fit that archetype, terminally online femcel-adjacent (self admitted) POC or minority woman obsessed with conventionally attractive white (or aesthetically white adjacent) dudes. Probably with a lot of history in blackpill or pinkpill spaces. There are many of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 06:49 PM
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The things that connect all PPD people together are ptsd/trauma and social maladjustment. Otherwise SMV, marital status, career, background are all over the map.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 06:43 PM
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Sometimes you're insecure b/c you're actually ugly. Sometimes it's BDD. Many other examples but that's the simplest one that came to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:36 PM
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Did you not imply it? You say incels are not welcome, guy responds saying you seem to be ok with femcels, you say well femcels aren't the majority of women here. Just connecting the dots.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:23 PM
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Nor are the men (incels)? Most of the men I see complaining about women or subscribing to blackpill stuff aren't virgins, nevertheless they are still dissatisfied with the current state of things, maybe not as successful in dating as they'd like to be. Not saying I agree or disagree with them, but there's this tendency to just call whatever guy you disagree with an incel, here, and everywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:20 PM
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All I'm saying is, this sub by nature is a space to discuss sexual strategy and "debate" between men and women, implying competition, maximizing one's leverage. advantage, benefits which often means at the expense of others/the opp sex. If not incels it's not surprising you're going to get a lot of manipulative selfish terrible, and bitter or jaded people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:13 PM
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I'm not just talking about incels and blackpillers. Are you also implying there aren't any women who are just here to hate on men or have severe issues with trauma? You really think aside from these shitty men everyone is just a socially well-adjusted sex haver with a history of healthy relationships? This place by its very nature - discussing sexual strategy which heavily implies competition, a set of winners and losers, attracts those with a bone to pick with the opp sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:59 PM
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That's your intended purpose or vision of the sub, but it doesn't reflect the reality of the actual sexual history and mental state of the people, men and women, who frequent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:55 PM
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It's similar to the trend of men online who automatically respond when a woman talks about dating problems with "She could've gotten a nice guy but too busy getting pumped and dumped by chad". Although shitting on men is more acceptable and widespread, sanctioned by the mainstream culture and media.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:50 AM
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Always two there are, a master and an apprentice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:25 AM
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maybe in mother russia jk
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:03 AM
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Just another example for why citing mother nature is never a justification for how humans should do things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:01 AM
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You forgot the part where they would rather be called casual sex material b/c that's the one that implies physical attraction and husband material has traditionally been associated with being an unattractive schlubby provider after all the fun and games are over and it's time to settle down so maybe don't intentionally leave out context. Also, don't project, plenty of big-hearted men here (and everywhere) who grew up dreaming of romantic lives with their next-door oneitis before they got jaded. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:44 AM
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a lot of people eventually want commitment and 2nd chances regardless of their past honestly you can get 2nd hand trauma just by watching people and how they talk about each other and how they talk about their SOs when he/she's not around
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:41 PM
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bc they have observed how easily unfaithful women can be and fear for their own chances of eventually finding a committed faithful woman just b/c he has a history of success with women doesn't mean the women he dates won't also turn around and fuck other fuckbois....at least that's what goes on in his head karma maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:38 PM
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from what i recall rp says you should continue to game but not cheat after marriage which is the rp's weakest point ie maintain frame so she remains attracted to you etc pretending to be someone else for ONS or casual is one thing, another to pretend to be someone for an entire marriage and most men aren't naturally like the rp persona for it to be feasible
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:36 PM
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I agree. Just say you're sleeping around instead of trying to make something valid or official about it. I don't f with that polyamory open relationship bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:29 PM
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Not an open relationship case, but even when you're not the one she's cheating on, if she's willing to flirt heavily or cheat on someone else with you you can trust she'll do the same if she was your gf/wife. These types of women make men scared to be in relationships even as onlookers or recipients of affection. That's why a lot of fuckbois or guys who normally excel at playing the field actually get burnt out jaded and depressed. Tbf men do this too, hard to have faith in humanity and want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:23 PM
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The men saying the first thing aren't the same men saying the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 06:42 PM
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He's clearly above average. His style sucks but he's a 7 in the face with conventionally attractive features and proportions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:21 AM
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Exhibit 897538 why women live longer than men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:22 AM
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It varies depending on the woman, it could be anywhere from 25 to 35. Young attractive women are the ones who have the easiest time getting commitment from Chad. Women are at their most attractive in their 20s (on average) so it's relative, whatever man they are able to attract for commitment is always going to be significantly higher in quality than whatever type of man they can get to commit after the wall, which again may be anywhere from their late 20s to mid 30s. The men they could get to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:45 AM
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He's already a 5 based on being young, not fat, and no notable facial flaws. Easily could be a 6 or above if he leans out his face, gets a new hairstyle, burns his clothes and gets an entirely new wardrobe etc. Although yes, there would have to be major changes, but the potential is there. With that amount of babyfat unless he completely lets himself go I'd say there's no way he doesn't look better as he gets older even without trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:04 AM
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Once again, just bc women on average will have higher SMV than men throughout their entire lives doesn't mean what you think it means. The wall is when women realize they can no longer attract the same quality of man she was able to in her prime or 20s for commitment. This doesn't mean they can no longer get sex, or attract men at all - only that the caliber of man willing to commit will sharply drop. Aside from letting yourself go, getting fat, or just the natural process of getting uglier as y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:00 AM
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You honestly have pleasant conventional features/base, you just look soft and dorky, what I would picture a redditor to look like except not as fat. Continue to lose weight, lift (I'm assuming he/him?), just stick with any number of basic routines and keep doing it every single day. Pick a fuckboi haircut (srs) and seriously swap out that anime wannabe style for anything else using google. You'll make face and body gains for sure, you also don't even look like you're 20 yet so some of that babyf…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 10:30 PM
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Another day, another strawman. Just going by how the men on this sub talk about their dating lives, on the whole I don't see them reducing women to being sex objects and cum vessels. Seeing as how places this actually select for the real weirdos and dysfunctional, the posts and comments from men re: texting or interacting with women in their daily lives are actually more wholesome than I expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 10:21 PM
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Plain is being generous. Large forehead zero angularity potato face bug eyes scleral show eyelid exposure, blotchy red skin, weird philtrum/mouth combo maybe a girl next door if it's a bad day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 06:22 PM
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how tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:53 PM
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Of course that is my own preference and also informed by cultural beauty standards (I am mixed East and Southeast Asian). That explains it. In terms of facial features, I know they like a more slender feminine look, but as far as I understand they still prefer a taller and more athletic/strong build in men. It's truly interesting to hear women say they prefer shorter men because I haven't seen or heard of it at all IRL or outside of individual comments. When I hear "only the US is obsessed with …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:31 PM
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Well yes, even a slightly built man has more capacity for strength and violence than the average woman, that doesn't negate the fact that women naturally gravitate toward more imposing men, taller, stronger looking etc. Sometimes I wonder if the women who like skinnier men unconsciously prefer it b/c it's a compromise to feel safer or less threatened.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:07 PM
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Women also hold the additional social power of the law and the courts being much more likely to be on their side should any dispute emerge or escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:58 PM
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Honestly that's kind of fair, the threat of physical force from the man is just something inherent in every coupling regardless of what laws exist and yet women don't want a physically unimposing guy either. Makes sense why the ideal for a lot of women seems to be the "bad boy" who has demonstrated he is capable of violence and aggression toward others while being protective or "nice" to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:41 PM
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Is physical power relevant if physical strength is no longer really necessary/prized in the modern day and leveraging physical dominance (basically domestic abuse/violence) is illegal and the woman just needs to alert authorities? When you say "Which one of you is more willing to leave" that's basically social power and it's the woman who wields it b/c she's usually the one with more options should they break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:24 PM
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They usually argue the opposite, that they can smell a misogynistic abusive shitty creep from a mile away when telling men it's their personality giving them trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 01:39 AM
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Can you imagine a piece, op-ed, whatever, on Abc news, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WSJ or the HuffPost, centered around female entitlement? Now ask the same question with an article about misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:05 AM
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Specifically men's opinions that involve criticizing women are unacceptable or niche vs the reverse being very acceptable if not celebrated, not as much opinions from men or women overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:58 PM
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She has more leverage as a young attractive woman than he does as an old fat unattractive man with money. If you like keeping score he would be the one at a disadvantage if anything, but everyone conventionally automatically labels it the reverse. In actuality if you go by individual cases I would expect to find that neither of them is being victimized.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:44 PM
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As long as you don't think it's preying if it's money the very thing the woman wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:41 PM
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You know what I agree there too, the point is both parties likely know what's going on and neither is the victim. But if we HAD TO choose one, why not choose the one with the higher SMV and leverage in the market, clearly the woman? And yet despite this it's overwhelmingly more culturally and socially acceptable to automatically frame the man as the manipulator and pervert and woman as the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:37 PM
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A lot of manospherians believe modern women's standards are the result of runaway entitlement and inflation of self-worth from feminism, socialization from birth that they are better than men, perpetual victims, health and beauty at any size, and so on. So I'd agree with your point, but don't entirely agree or disagree with their points. I would argue against this idea of women not complaining and just being able to stay silent or walk away. Women complain constantly about men, and they are give…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:33 PM
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I have never seen the point of "you can't negotiate attraction" because negotiating attraction is literally what TRP tries to do. By changing your dress, your appearance, your level of fitness, your demeanor, your body language, your money, your social standing, whatever, you are trying to make women more attracted to you than they would be otherwise. What is that if not negotiating attraction? If you mean you can't negotiate attraction in that if she's not attracted to you then you can't do any…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:18 PM
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There was a thread started a long while ago here positing that in a relationship, sugar/money based or otherwise, between a young hot woman and an old rich or financially stable man, that it's the old rich man who is the victim if there is a victim at all. The young hot woman has all the leverage and will always be able to find another man, any man, of any age, any niche or career sector, any looks-level, any financial level for commitment. Or so the post went. Yet nobody accuses the woman of dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:53 PM
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I don't really care about pills I just try to call everything like I see it. Ultimately women still have it easier b/c they will rarely suffer from lack of male interest or attention; the caveat is if they aren't top women the attention will either be out of sexual boredom and/or not from a top man, which many women find unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:34 PM
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There's always a lot of disagreement surrounding this but to me even someone who is simply on the younger side and not overweight is easily a 6 w/o trying b/c the average is not a high bar. Going from this yeah it's not uncommon for men of this level to be with unconventional women, even tho/but I don't know what your friend looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:32 PM
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I would say women still have it easier b/c at least Beckys, average women, weird women who deviate from the norm, will have attention directed their way by not-a-small-number of men. But these women won't be having any top men looking their way. My point was just saying there are men who are really into each type of woman isn't entirely accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:26 PM
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The thirst won't last long for any of these guys to be fair b/c they are just athletes same as celebrities except with even less pull or media coverage. I would say in real life the Turkish guy would have much more long-lasting appeal. None of these pretty interchangeable gymnast/swimmer people are going to stick in anyone's minds either tbh, and at least the turkish guy lives on as a meme and no one will get him mixed up with anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:24 PM
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When guys say there are a lot of men who are into every type of woman so it's a lot easier to be attractive enough as a woman, how effective are the implications when you consider the nuances? When was the last time you saw a conventionally attractive or top man who had very unconventional tastes or liked for example fat alternative women with purple hair? So it's more just like a lot of men who know they have limited options have become okay with unconventional women being sufficiently attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:16 PM
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Often times the competence needs to be high status impressive competence, like a special skill in something unique and admired. Someone who does a solid consistent job sweeping floors and cleaning toilets every day isn't going to wet any panties. This is unfortunately also the case with a lot of trade jobs, the competence has to be filtered through status, even tho technically a lot of trades pay well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:40 PM
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It was truly great, I wish I had been completely sober watching it the 1st time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:14 PM
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All of which is fleeting, if a woman automatically latches onto you bc of your looks 1) it won't last long unless you give her more reason to stick around and 2) if it does last you know she's shallow and will always be checking for other hot dudes I see a lot of women in social media comments thirsting for the turkish guy, this type of thirst will last longer b/c it's based on the type of person they think he is or the persona women have imagined for him, regardless of how accurate it is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:11 PM
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There was one discussion I remember you were having, another one I think was on this sub and I also had a couple IRL discussions with some dudes at work about it. Would've posted earlier but got banned for a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:06 PM
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Men who are downplaying the female attention and attraction to the Turkish Olympic shooter show they don't have a good understanding of male attractiveness. They say well if he was a nobody he wouldn't be getting all this attention. Well yeah, absolutely not, that's the point. Men show their value and garner attraction by doing things and by their behavior; he did so by demonstrating traits and skills deemed masculine while separating himself from the rest of the men, he showed masculinity and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:02 PM
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I know everyone saw Cole Hocker and his fellow goofy looking american teammate pull off that historic upset in the 1500m against the two arrogant pretty chads from Scotland/UK and Norway. All that talk, voiceover hype and WWE entrance shit only to come in 2nd and not place at all. U-S-A U-S-A
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:55 PM
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...Then just don't respond or say anything if you think they're too ugly or are unwilling to provide empathy. Better than formulating responses that put blame on the man like he's unfairly criticizing women, overly toxic, or wrong in his conclusions. How is that not obvious? A lot of women simply can't deal if the man is right and have to proactively protect their virtue-signaling, image, and narrative at all costs even if it's just an anonymous man online.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:11 PM
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How are they socially punished in 2024? Aside from pockets of men online?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:13 PM
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If it's such a detriment and reverse privilege why do women constantly seek out hot or at least above average men to fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:12 PM
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Literally was talking to a woman here yesterday to did what I described and I see it often. They can't imagine someone who complaints about dating woes to actually be a normal functioning person IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:06 PM
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The women here assume/do the exact same to the men. You can't get laid? I disagree with you and dislike what you stand for? You're socially awkward? You must be a fat hideous basement dweller.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:32 PM
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It's funny how I've heard both men and women go "well obviously PPD men/women are below average". Idgaf if people call me ugly lol they have no idea who I am, but it's telling how strong the halo effect is. You dislike a group's views - or maybe they are being total asswipes who knows - so you assume they are cave-dwelling bridge trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:32 PM
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Don't insult tera-chad Forrest Whitaker by comparing him to this subhuman. Her eyes are uneven b/c of bad symmetry. His eyes are uneven b/c he's gauging the distance, lying in wait, prepared to strike.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:01 AM
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But the whole point of his comment was to say that ppd men are the ones trolling women on these apps for being fat and have unrealistic standards for how thin women should be....? Like I was saying, certain trolls who should be banned aren't and those whom I thought were relatively innocuous get warned and booted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:13 PM
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then why did that guy reference ppd men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:05 PM
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yes they are
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:01 PM
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I dunno, I'm not a mod. There are a lot of ppl the mods have suspended and banned here whom I would not have banned, and people who should be but are still allowed to comment. I'm not saying I know about everything that goes on behind the scenes either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:46 PM
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is that what many ppd men do? honestly i haven't seen it, but if i missed something lmk
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:40 PM
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A lot of women think all the guys in here are just stacy chasing with sky high standards. Might as well give them some actual evidence to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:38 PM
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And this is why straight men are super jealous of gay men and how easy it is to be attractive to other gay men vs being attractive to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:37 PM
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Weak 5 on a good day. Butt-chin, nose too pointy, long philtrum recessed lower third, manly thick eyebrows, hair covering weird rotting pumpkin head shape, what else is it hiding? It was over for her before it began.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:36 PM
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Based upon what I perceive to be personality traits veering toward meekness, away from aggression, being timid, afraid to voice or do anything remotely controversial, afraid of retaliation, not having a spine, being placating and smothering out of desperation or affection starvation, or b/c they don't know when the next woman will give them a chance What is your idea that these nerds are equally as likely to be abusive based off of? Make no mistake these are still very repulsive traits to women,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:32 PM
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Nothing is absolutely foolproof, but the chances are significantly smaller. Like saying if you don't want to get cheated on go for a traditional-minded woman who goes to church regularly. Smaller risk, not zero risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:23 PM
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Aside from Automatic Meaning, an obvious troll, what other men are you referring to here? Bc if anything the men have a lenience toward bigger body types or at least absolutely women above 21 BMI.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:16 PM
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Was a lot of this going on through DMs or was she indirectly taking things men were saying personally? I don't recall men ever calling her fat or encouraging her to starve herself. Aside from AutomaticMeaning who is a troll, if anything the men here are much more lenient and open to bigger women, certainly women above 21 BMI. I prefer thinner women also but I've never promoted very thin, just not overweight and also healthy. I also have said as a chubby man I don't deserve a thin woman until I l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:09 PM
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Not really, I find a lot of stock models or fitness or ad models to be more attractive than a lot of A-list celebs, or even random people I see in public or baristas or cashiers; leading man status is equally about uniqueness or connections in addition to looking "good enough". Also I never said he wasn't goodlooking in his youth. I'm talking about currently. He would be invisible in his current state without any of his fame or money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:06 PM
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Nope. Maybe when he was young and goodlooking. Now without his status and fame he'd be a bloated middle-aged man maybe with cool eyes. Ironically it's because of his status and fame as a former international heartthrob that he can afford to just let himself go and look like shit. One of my female friends put it like this about her thing for Leo despite him being 50 and fat. "Yes, but he will AWAYS be Jack from Titanic. That will always be true."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:55 PM
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I'm not being high and mighty I'm just saying everyone putting asian women on a pedestal is cringe. Try not to take it so seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:35 PM
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PPD is full of weebs and asian women are always severely overrated. Socially awkward men also love asian women, probably b/c it can also go both ways and asian beauty standards for men in a way also favor kind of the nerdier more feminine type. You don't need to be a chad and actually depending on the woman the chad type might be a turnoff. This isn't a knock on their standards, I'm just explaining why things are the way they are. I said this one time and got called "out of touch" bc anime has b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:24 PM
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That's right on point actually. She's not ugly but she's nowhere near the caliber of woman the type of guys she fucks would ever commit to. If she was, she wouldn't still be jumping from rope to rope.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:21 PM
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Meteor meeks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:04 PM
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For a lot of these young men in their early to mid 20s, it's not entitled at all to want a woman who isn't fat, a woman who isn't a single mom, a woman who hasn't hit 30 or had many sex partners. If you think these qualifications are steep or above average I feel bad for where you live. There's maybe one fat guy who demands a thin woman and I don't even know if that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:02 PM
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Just another Chadrone throwing out a blue-pilled "you can be anything you want" platitude i'm jp
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:49 PM
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I think a guy already posted or commented something similar a week ago but I was reminded b/c a girl in my broader social circle was talking about dating and guys and somebody made a comment about short guys and she goes "Oh no forget it, I'm done with short kings." Then when asked she basically said she dated a short guy a year ago and things didn't work out. Everyone else she's had a thing with has been a tall athletic conventional white chad. Since she's kind of a trainwreck also it's not a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:39 PM
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I'm hearing you say it's pointless b/c you have no examples of any guy here actually being a stacy-chasing d-bag. A lot of men here look fine or even decent yet struggle regularly with their looksmatch, the dailychat comments reflect this, the type of women they simp for and talk adoringly about reflect this, most of the comments from men relating their dating lives reflect this, all I'm asking is for an example supporting your point to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:31 PM
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I still don't see the disconnect. The whole point these men are giving is that even with very low standards all they want is for a woman to not be fat, which is to them the lowest of bars. I always hear about how men here have high standards or just want Stacy and I have yet to see any evidence aside from maybe one guy trolling. Instead it's a lot of men simping hard for average women, relating their awkward exchanges and text messaging with random women in their life. If you have any concrete e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:56 PM
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Both can be true at the same time. Men can filter out fat women and still by their definition and perspective have much lower standards than women whom they deem very hypergamous and 'Chad-only' as a whole. There isn't any hypocrisy there and I don't see any man ever saying they have no standards. That's the whole point of "women just need to not be fat" vs the qualifications men face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:43 PM
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Your looks (and your looksmatch) determine your league, not what you can attract. There are a thousand different factors that determine why someone can attract someone better looking than them or can't attract someone on their level or worse looking, but all that's irrelevant. That's the whole reason why people say "He dated a girl out of his league". Because she's more physically attractive. But yet he still got her to date/commit to him. Going by "you attract your league" they're in the same l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:09 AM
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I can't comprehend the level of stupid or sheltered if these shows aren't scripted because there are people dragged onto the show and their SO tells them they have some news and they ask if it's good news or they're going on vacation like they don't know what show they're on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:59 AM
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This is what I'm talking about, except the comments are heavily upvoted, and the comments are about more serious topics like health or politics so the damage is much more than getting Wizard of Oz trivia wrong. Also, at least the person was like "oh i thought" and admitted wrong instead of doubling down which happens more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:06 AM
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The very design of reddit attracts the most outspoken, polarized, and mentally ill or socially stunted with respect to the subject matter of the particular sub. I didn't know this and came into reddit initially thinking it would be a great place to get intelligent insight and advice instead of low IQ or stubborn circle jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:50 AM
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Agree that young Obama overall was a more attractive package vs the other 2. But none of these men would have struggled (maybe even now?) at pulling beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:11 AM
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Reddit has shown me that the most dangerous thing about stupid people (like 50% of the site minimum) is they often don't sound stupid but people are influenced by them nonetheless b/c they just take what is written at face value. You'll find the same thing with flat-earthers, most of them just sound and behave like everyday people. Their comments normally sound like they come from sensible people until you look deeper and find all sorts of bias and jumping to conclusions, bandwagon-hopping, base…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:03 AM
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If you've been on reddit regularly for more than a few weeks you come to realize most people are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:54 PM
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I believe most men with high status esp beyond the local level - they don't need to necessarily be billionaires or President of the United States - won't ever have trouble getting beautiful women. I think these men know this and come to just value personality bc they know they have the buffet and the mystery or wonder is gone. There's no other explanation really, esp as you say Obama is handsome, well-spoken, intelligent, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:51 PM
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That's bc oversleeping can make you feel more tired/sluggish. The 7 hour sleep you got the 2nd night was well more than enough on its own esp bc you got 12 hours the previous night. 5-6 hours isn't enough for most people, but a couple nights won't hurt; make it a habit and you'll def feel it catching up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:05 PM
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It is a trainwreck and trainwrecks are very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:55 PM
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When I say they can get anyone I don't mean they can literally get any woman. Obviously there are young women who would never be okay with middle aged men no matter how rich. I'm saying there are enough young women who would be down for it not to matter. It could be 5% (it's not this low) of young hot women in the world simply open to it, that's more than enough. This before we consider there are plenty of hot women above 25 and the percentage open to this type of dating dynamic only increases w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:49 PM
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Me all day. And when things start to progress and go well I'll self sabotage. Better to fuck it up myself than have it fuck up later or spend a lot of time worrying about it fucking up. At least I'll be in control of the fuckup.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:47 PM
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Women do it when they are on bad terms with their BF emotionally or feel lacking. Obviously if their BF is fulfilling their emotional needs they're much less likely to use their friends or other men. And not all women/people keep in healthy and regular touch with their family or relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:44 PM
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I also believe contrary to what a lot of blackpillers say Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg being the richest men in the world could have done a lot better too lookswise despite not being physical chads but maybe at that point you know you can get basically anyone (of any looks level) bc of your $ and status so you actually do start valuing personality, connection and common vision more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:42 PM
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If your preferences are backed by problematic or biased, discriminatory, racist or sexist socialization many would say it's something that needs to be fixed. If your preferences are backed by entitlement or societal inequalities, many would say it's something that needs to be fixed. If you're one of those hardliners who says "I want what I want", then whatever. I just think it's interesting people have zero problem changing ways of problematic thinking until it comes to their own preferences. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:18 PM
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As far as my experiences go it's a no, even though I hear some people might fall more toward the middle of the spectrum eg be more likely to be bicurious and women are even more sexually fluid in general. I'm not saying the powers of socialization toward preferences are limitless if that's what you're getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:09 PM
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There's this idea that our way of thinking is heavily dictated by sociopolitical norms or trends and there is the need for campaigns and public service announcements and efforts to modify these norms so that they are no longer problematic, racist, sexist, ableist etc. Somehow all this shuts down when it comes to dating preferences, then they become untouchable, "well it's their preference, what are you gonna do?" "attraction isn't negotiable" as if all these exist in a vacuum and people's prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:28 PM
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Was it from posting 'where the fat wimmen at' on twoxchromosomes they probably didn't know u were being genuine and meant it as a compliment
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:01 PM
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You come to value the mental benefits as much as the physical benefits over time. The stress relief and endorphins.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:47 PM
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I've felt that ever since I was a kid, and I didn't know why that was. Like why do I feel so bad or alone or vulnerable, and it had nothing to do with guilt. Then later on I read that it releases chemicals in your brain that are meant to make you feel good afterward, which further confuses me eg serotonin dopamine prolactin oxytocin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:46 PM
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It's like lifting for men. Women in general do appreciate a fit, toned or muscled body but to an extent. If they go overboard, they are just impressing their gym buddies and guy friends. Men do take some things for granted like women doing their hair, makeup - eg the guy thinking a woman is barefaced when she's obviously got some makeup on - but they aren't going to care about all the other extra things or smaller details women will obsess over - at that point it's just to feel like they belong …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:43 PM
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Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:16 PM
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Is there an idea that single mothers are worse parents than single fathers? I wonder if it's because single mothers are the majority of single parent cases but in the more uncommon cases where it's a single father he's more likely to be a "good" father with financial resources - bc otherwise he might not have ever been awarded custody. Vs single mothers, who are either more likely to be given custody or more likely to have the father abandon them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:03 PM
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If people are okay with dating "more average looking" people b/c they are nice, then they don't have high looks standards. If a lot of men thought women were willing to date them for their personality (he's not hot but I'll date him b/c he's nice), then why would there be so many men complaining? Your statements contradict each other constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:50 PM
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I don't know how the bans work tbh you're straight up one of the nicest dudes here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:47 PM
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Obviously you think they are if 1) looks matter a lot and 2) a woman's idea of what is attractive would "upset" men. Following your logic, how much do looks actually matter if "everyone settles" "esp if they're nice". Like I said, you're all over the place and will just say whatever feels good to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:41 PM
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I thought you said women's standards aren't rigid?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:38 PM
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She's a full grown adult but I'm guessing some type of social development problem but I am trying to tone down the casual autism remarks for personal growth goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:36 PM
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smh smh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:33 PM
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If someone (the person I was talking to) believes most average people have no problem dating, it's weird for that same person to comment with something implying most men fall short of women's high physical standards and more likely they just wanted to bash men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:31 PM
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ofc you'd say that, bc as far as debating goes you're the walking definition of wanting to have your cake and eat it too "men are ugly!' 'but they are wrong about too many entitled women thinking men are ugly bc that's mean' am i talking to a 12 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:29 PM
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Like a lot of women here you seesaw between two things: "Ofc looks matter, are you stupid?" "Oh boy, if you knew the physical standards women have for men, you'd be very upset." and "It's your personality 100%. Touch grass outside, so many mediocre or ugly men in relationships walking around. Women's standards aren't stringent or rigid."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:19 PM
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...Do you think the men here (or elsewhere) are somehow in the dark about what women find conventionally attractive? Is it a secret somehow? Or did you just wake up and post the first thing that came into your head b/c you need your man-bashing fix for the day? I know you don't believe the own things you write b/c you spend time complaining and arguing with the men who talk about how high women's standards are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:11 PM
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She wants to enjoy a "gotcha" for men implying they have no idea that women have extremely high physical standards while somehow railing against the men here who have been saying women have high entitled standards the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:07 PM
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But it really can't, and the angle you take literally seems to vary by the moment depending on what feels good for you,. You're all over the place. Unconventional men under 6 feet can be attractive to many women, but at the same time men have no idea how high and stringent the physical standards women have of men are? Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:59 PM
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Just sayin more BS to pad the BS b/c it feels good to say it. If they didn't struggle heavily with dating to begin with why would they deteriorate to that point? So what are the original reasons, bc even if they get there they didn't start out like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:51 PM
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You call it delusional b/c you're either crazy or never ever go outside or both. I never said "not being fat" is the only way a woman can be desired. The point is a woman can be desired by many men by a lot of ways, no matter how unconventional they look, but I think you just either made a typo or worded it incorrectly. Not being fat is one of the most common ways a woman can be deemed automatically attractive by many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:48 PM
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So 86% of the men struggling here are secretly basically threatening rape in all caps to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:41 PM
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You just being purposely blase or dense or what? Women just need to not be fat, and even if they're fat there's a market for that too. It has nothing to do with "many people have unconventional features". Entirely irrelevant and not the point. Bc women can have all the unconventional features in the world and still have a higher SMV than a man with conventional features.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:39 PM
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....Yeah you got any proof of this? Or even something that suggests there might be proof? It's convenient and comforting I know to say men who struggle with dating are just the most neckbeardy and ugly spergs who act literally insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:36 PM
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Height is the perfect example b/c there's absolutely nothing short men can do about it besides very invasive surgery with all sorts of possible complications. Meanwhile the vast majority of women with some effort are sufficiently attractive to many men. Their attractiveness does not hinge on as many immutable characteristics as it does for men. And if you have gauged the general opinion here of men at all it's actually that women are very brutally honest about male beauty standards thru their ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:33 PM
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Right. For the majority of women, they won't necessarily date an incarcerated criminal but they definitely absolutely are open to dating a guy with a rebellious streak or reputation, no matter how goody-two-shoes these women may seem. It's about the brain weighing the balance between the attraction and the pragmatic consequences, obviously dating a felon is going to come with a lot of caveats. I always say women like a guy to just be enough of a bad boy to not get arrested or with minimal social…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:24 PM
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makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:02 PM
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Is it a secret or advantage if everyone tries to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:00 PM
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That's what I was curious about
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:47 PM
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Absolutely. 5'9 110 just seems to be pushing it. That sounds more like the dimensions of a model who lives on a diet of a cigarettes and mineral water every day and feels faint if they walk too fast, not someone in the peak physical condition of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:39 PM
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This shift isn't new, the discussions on this sub just recycle subject matter because it's different people posting and you see the path of the debate just repeats itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:30 PM
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Some of the competing female boxers in the olympics are like 5'9" 110 lbs. I guess it's fine if you're fighting someone with similar dimensions and body composition but even if you're elite and pure muscle how do you generate any sufficient power or am I just a weak out-of-shape american. Difficult to see how you would stand a chance in a real fight although I know that's not the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:29 PM
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I have so many complaints about american women and yet I love them the most, they are the most attractive to me. My best bet is probably a very traditional sweet girl from the south who happens to not be fat. Yeah I know it's probably rare and competition will be rough. Maybe i'll look out in the sticks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:04 PM
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They just want the whole system to come crashing down. A lot of these people are just edgelord teenagers or people with absolutely nothing to lose from having accomplished nothing. They think complete and utter chaos would be cool b/c fuck it they are degenerate goblins.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:56 PM
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People like to say "the market has spoken" and pretend like 80/20 or inflated self-worth and entitlement aren't endemic to the me-first ADHD culture we have here. Fairly certain if most men were neckbeard trash you wouldn't tell a woman she's shooting out of her league for wanting someone with basic hygiene. You'd tell the men to do better, there would be entire campaigns of shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:56 PM
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It's one thing if it's a 3/10 landing an 8 in another country. The much more common situation is a man who is unable to land his looksmatch in his own modern western nation - not necessarily bc of his looks alone, maybe other things like social skills, finances etc. being able to do better with less money in another country. Alongside another big component of PPB being the women having more traditional non-western or progressive values which PPB says is the reason for their femininity and lack o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:55 PM
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Overall it's true because we live in a world that encourages individualism and self-centeredness alongside low attention spans. Therefore once someone is no longer your coworker unless they are an exceptional case and you go out of your way to stay in touch you're likely to just drift away over time bc we find it too inconvenient to keep contact. Everyone is immersed in their own problems and goals and sees other people as supplementary or accessories. I don't think any of this is evidence or re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:22 AM
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I would say I originally met my best friends through convenience or "existing a certain way" like having the same classes or attending the same clubs with the same hobbies but over time you grow attached to their personalities and just how they are as humans. You develop a dynamic and sense of chemistry or connection that is unique only between you and that person. Ofc you can grow apart once the convenience disappears eg if you go off to different colleges but the good thing about guy friendshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:28 AM
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Not that unpopular of an opinion. Many people will agree social media is a net negative but also can't stop using it at the same time. Like me. Even much of the internet is a net negative. All the afforded convenience and access to valuable information is overshadowed by the sheer amount of bad information and straight up lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:12 AM
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Never said they were equal, I have my own opinion on this, just saying this place is predictable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:11 AM
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I was going to say Kelly Rowland, but she's "only" in her 40s so looking good isn't as "impressive" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:47 AM
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Also Gabrielle Union she's 51. She's actually more attractive now than when she was in her 20s or 30s to me, I find that to be the case with people who naturally carry a lot of babyfat in young adulthood, face thins out and becomes more defined, at the age when regular people start to look haggard or hollow cryptkeeper-like these people just look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:26 AM
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Kamala looks like she's 60 though. Which is fine, nothing wrong with that. Bassett I swear looked like mid to late 30s when she was in her late 50s, and we're talking POC late 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:16 AM
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Which is still an amazing thing, a decent solid SMV until you are basically close to 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:08 AM
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Being able to look good/decent up to 60 doesn't mean this is where the wall is. The wall is where her SMV drops sharply and she can't get the commitment from the men she used to when she was younger. Although yea i'd agree the wall hits significantly later for POC women assuming they take care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:07 AM
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Angela Bassett at 60, phew. I mean she was never my type but I'm talking pure aging quality/genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:06 AM
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It's more like women will forever resent men if they are less than them so it won't ever work. Even if they somehow stay together. I for one don't care how much she makes, she could be a billionaire or a retail worker but there's zero chance a billionaire or even millionaire woman would date me. I could have model looks, doesn't matter, I'm too low-class/status for them. It's not like there aren't rich guys who are also goodlooking or funny, these women have zero reason to look below their tiers…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:04 AM
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Always two there are, a master and an apprentice. Darth BMI, if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:59 PM
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Depending on what is convenient, men have low standards so it's not women's fault they have it easier in dating, or men chase only Stacy so they are hypocrites when complaining about female hypergamy and entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:28 PM
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This is how it's going to go here. The women will say 'men settle too'. The men will say 'the difference is women settle b/c they hit the wall after chasing chad in their youth, men settle b/c they have little to no options'
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:48 PM
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You can read people like a book. Less than a month ago and actually for the last 4 years people forgot Harris even existed and now she's a savior, beacon of light, brilliance and strength, just b/c they hate the alternative. Same deal with Biden throughout his presidency. Rinse and repeat. I could set my clock to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:00 PM
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It's my opinion that you can't necessarily draw a clean line that separates women complaining about men as just people vs as potential partners. I'll chalk it up to different experiences, but even if you've never/rarely experienced it shouldn't sound too farfetched to imagine there are a lot of women out there who just go "Why do men _____________" with an inferred relationship context. I would reference many tiktok reels of women complaining about dating, but I'm not going to equate that with r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:53 PM
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Both. I've heard a lot of women complain or make disparaging remarks about men re: dating, and just in general. I honestly have not heard men do the same. Maybe once, a long time ago, but the guy was belligerent and blatantly sexist and racist. Maybe it depends on the area or culture of the city you live. It's like night and day places like PPD are nothing like what I observe IRL, and real talk it's probably for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:47 PM
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You honestly don't think women complain as much as men do currently as is, despite having an advantage in dating? I have yet to hear a man complain about the dating market IRL, but have definitely heard women complain about men, so I wonder if you're just seeing the comments from men in places like this and other online corners that are very self-selected. I can't imagine what it would be like if 80% of men suddenly became exponentially worse in terms of what I would hear from women around the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:43 PM
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It was there plain as day in a comment below. "Life isn't fair" but also "You get exactly what your level is."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:23 PM
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Average men online are attracting nobody. Their league isn't nobody. It's more complex than that, tbf a lot of these guys need to learn social skills and get out there and away from the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:18 PM
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There is a common template of dialogue here and it's people telling struggling men "Your league is what you attract". When average men protest that all they are getting is fat toxic women the response is an unforgiving "The market has spoken, that is your level." Somehow I don't think if most men turned into neckbeard rapists overnight we'd be telling 80% of women their level is a fat dinosaur chicken nugget eating sack of shit living in mom's basement who doesn't care about consent b/c "the mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:56 PM
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So what you're saying is, the majority of men will not get exactly what their level is. These days like half of all people actively trying to date use OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:44 PM
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The bad part isn't necessarily placing a premium on succeeding with women, it's shaming struggling men for being obsessed with sex or "scoring" i.e. 'sex is just sex', lecturing men about toxic masculinity, while making virgin jokes about the men they disagree with or dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:39 PM
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Lowest calorie breakfast, just black coffee maybe with some oat milk and splenda if I really want something added, if I want to eat something a couple soft-boiled eggs or an apple. Maybe a few strips of turkey bacon but I'm not really a fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:12 PM
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You can explain away attractive people doing well b/c they're attractive. You can't explain away average men on OLD getting zero matches without going beyond simple maxims and platitudes bc there's obviously more going on. Clearly an 8/10's level is high. On the other hand an average man's level is not zero. I don't understand the point of these hardlining "Tough love/tell it like it is" comments. You can say it just b/c you want to say it, doesn't mean it has any substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:56 PM
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That man truly does it all
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:13 PM
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stay toxic queen
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:39 PM
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lol mad and unhinged
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:36 PM
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To quote someone else, just bc i don't respond doesn't mean you're right. I increasingly use the dailychat just to bullshit bc honestly the discussions here are increasingly trash and I don't bother engaging further with people who are too far gone. Like yourself basically. Toodles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:35 PM
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No, but it's a vast oversimplification and neglects the thought process and countless factors and contemplation it takes to get to the point of asking if you're an insecure kid with bad social skills. My friends just assumed I can just do it with no problem which shows either they don't know me, don't care, or are just very simple minded and unaware, probably b/c as women they never had to think about things like that from the other end.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:42 PM
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i might check it out, seems to be pretty damn hard these days to find a good movie or show
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:11 PM
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Okay then, my bad. Like I was saying even if she didn't find the first guy attractive or found him ugly that type of behavior isn't actually typical of women IRL that i've seen. If anything being flustered or avoiding eye contact is more a possibility if a woman finds him attractive but doesn't want to show it or provide any validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:09 PM
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ofc, there's no pressure for you to post anything, but they were asking as if a lot of people have seen a lot of pictures of the women here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:57 PM
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She's obviously more enthusiastic in the 2nd video but it's also weird she avoids eye contact in the first. Most women don't necessarily do that unless they're uncomfortable or flustered and he's not THAT ugly so I dunno what's going on unless he creeped her out somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:30 PM
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I remember in h/s I would be talking to female friends about my one-itis of the month and they'd just be like "so are u gonna ask her out or what?" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:28 PM
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u callin my fat ass out?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:17 PM
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Maybe I haven't seen enough photos but tbh unattractive people posting are rare, even if only ugly people are less likely to post pics. Ofc there are random pictures of ugly people but they aren't put on the internet in the context of a redditor showing himself on a sub like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:10 PM
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Women: "What have YOU done to help other men? It's not women's responsibility" Also women: "It is crucial that men play a role as allies if feminism is to continue to make progress"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:09 PM
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that's cool but i still haven't seen it, nor have i seen other women. If the men are any indication the women are probably also relatively normal to decent looking here but mentally fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:05 PM
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i've seen zero photos of anyone, can't imagine anyone would be able to be qualified to answer unless they've seen a lot of photos of a lot of women here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:04 PM
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You can't use her as an answer if she's never posted a picture. Nothing against her and I get along with BV just fine but come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:00 PM
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Did you actually read his post or did you only read the title and immediately scramble to disagree in the hope of internet points? You already know the answer. This is why I take no one seriously here and just use the dailychat for bullshitting now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:55 PM
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We're like a couple of bougie moms blocking up the aisle with our giant double-baby strollers like major assholes on a sunday at wholefoods and other assholes are trying to get to the cayenne pepper but we're just in the way bullshitting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:14 PM
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I miscalculated. Oat milk is actually calorie-wise around the same as nonfat milk, so it's creamier tasting than half-and-half but somehow the kcal of nonfat, so I imagine oat has the same amount of carbs and a lower glycemix index than nonfat even b/c nonfat has zero fat to slow absorption. But yeah almond overall has even less of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:01 PM
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i like oat, honestly tastes somehow creamier than half-and-half with usually even a little less kcal than whole milk
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:48 PM
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I imagine a lot of these guys are shut-ins and don't have the most thriving social lives to begin with so that's probably why. Probably have few friends to begin with and any "female friends" are just women they are orbiting poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:45 PM
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i honestly don't see the point, the calorie difference between nonfat and some-fat or full-fat is negligible unless you drink a lot of milk. Yes 8 oz is 90 vs 150 at most but it's still only 60 and if you drink a big glass it's just 120 or whatever,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:43 PM
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So is the reason why bi-men are popular among gay men is they are usually often straight presenting men open to sex with gay men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:04 PM
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Makes sense, tho I've also read articles talking about how a lot of gay men aren't able to shake the idea of wanting to fit in or be associated with straight men due to past discrimination and ongoing internalized hatred or disapproval. The straight guy in a way represents something unattainable not just sexually but also identity-wise, an identity many probably felt lifelong pressure to conform toward.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:10 PM
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Yeah there's something about being bi or straight that attracts gay men, probably a forbidden fruit or at least harder-to-get idea that makes it more alluring but ofc with straight men they find attractive there is probably zero chance for obvious reasons. Makes sense also bi-men are more attracted to feminine men as their tastes probably lie more in the middle of the spectrum eg androgynous looking ppl
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:40 PM
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Nobody said friendships are substitutes for romantic relationships. The people who told you to make more friends are saying it's easier to get into a romantic relationship organically or voluntarily if you already have a robust social circle and a network of platonic yet meaningful connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:24 PM
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Yet if I say the same thing about women it's not socially acceptable, suddenly my experiences aren't valid, and I'm being problematic and "misogynistic" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:07 PM
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Thanks for the comprehensive response, but at the same time I can't help but think a lot of these can just apply to anyone, not just older people. I can think of many instances with gen z exhibiting these behaviors. But I would agree/say trauma also knows no generational barriers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:29 PM
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Yeah JBW is legit I'm just saying I doubt her anecdote is representative of the norm heightwise, as she was trying to make the point that not all women go for chad but most men being 5'8-5'10 at a party assuming everyone there is youngish is pretty unbelievable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:22 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean. If anything white guys on average are definitely going to be taller than 5'8-5'10 nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:18 PM
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A common response/inference here is that women are excused from being deceptive and lecturing men on being respectful and toxic masculinity (not even getting into social or legal consequences) while giving it up for chad with zero requirements b/c men should know better. "If you didn't grow up knowing this you're stupid." Somehow this same lenience isn't afforded to manipulative lying men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:15 PM
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Maybe it's the area I live but it can't be that special..I can't imagine any circle even a small(er) one where the guys are all between 5'8 and 5'10. I'm 6' and statistically above average but get routinely heightmogged, I would almost say it's very common despite not "the majority".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:10 PM
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Tangent, but what would you say are the signs of someone with too much trauma ie what are the traits exhibited by older people like millennials, gen x and boomers?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:07 PM
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Some, not a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:47 PM
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I don't think anyone is on PPD with the primary purpose of dating or meeting someone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:53 AM
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that means nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:36 AM
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a lot of gay guys/friends are like that, i dunno why a lot of straight dudes are annoyed by the constant overhang of joking that they could turn you gay at any time or that you could be gay if you wanted but it doesn't bother me too much
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:35 AM
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Yeah that's what I hear. I also recently learned most gay male couples have open relationships. Or at least a significant amount. Was not aware. Hard to make those work without emerging hurt feelings of hostility or jealousy I imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:13 AM
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I agree with most of your comment but it makes too much sense for a lot of the people here,
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:12 AM
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The whole women can't be in the wrong since whatever they do is the result of living under patriarchy spiel. Whatever happened to "men are also victims of the patriarchy"? They only bring that up when it's convenient, otherwise the everyday man is still a target.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:05 AM
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but it's true the misogynistic misogynist is misogyny mississauga
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:02 AM
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I would not bother (but I guess it's too late). She throws out the word misogyny like candy so she's obviously one of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:56 AM
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You must not know many men. As per your original comment, most men in actuality do not hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:56 AM
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It holds true for a lot of guys for sure, including myself. It's nothing sexual, simply an acknowledgment like wow 1) gay guys have it a lot easier or 2) men are just so much simpler and easier to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:54 AM
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If you date or marry a shallow woman despite fitting all her shallow standards she's never going to truly love you just what you represent or provide in money or status. Also bc she is inherently shallow instead of one to learn to appreciate someone's character she will constantly be on the lookout for other men who fit those standards or fit them even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:06 PM
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Seems like you just want to shit on PPBs since you don't say the same thing about men in general, even asian men, marrying asian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:02 PM
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Bernie Sanders here once again asking for an example of a man completely serious on PPD saying women should be obligated to date men they feel no attraction to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:41 PM
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You can just google it and you'll be taken to the entrances of many subs, forums, grifting or monetized YT videos and channels, and other rabbitholes. I'm not sure I'd recommend going down any of them in good conscience, but general overall things like basic skincare and grooming, choosing a style of hair and dress that works, making sure your face has definition and angles assuming you're a man etc. No need to delve too deeply into things bc online communities are infested with neurodivergent i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:01 AM
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The brutal pill is that gaining status and money is probably even harder than improving your looks to the point of being sufficiently physically attractive to many if not most women. If you're autistic, traumatized, or grew up in a dysfunctional broken home with little means, you can still level up your looks, not as easily with other traits. Most men are not inherently ugly. With the exception of men who are exceptionally short the amount of guys who won't benefit significantly from looksmaxxin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:40 AM
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Very photoshopped and completely out of my league obviously, but it's hard to imagine a more beautiful woman as far as I'm concerned and I have no idea who that is. It's always the nameless random ones Alright well to be shallow I googled her other pics and her face seems a bit too small or pinched so maybe it's just this pic brb elbows too pointy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:21 PM
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Most men would simp for someone under the right circumstances, most men have a breaking point or price, it just depends on where that point is lol. I would say a man who doesn't simp under most conditions and with most women is good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:06 PM
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if simp men are severely outnumbering non-simp men then saying men in general aren't aware is accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:05 PM
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Average doesn't mean pretty. Unless you mean a face that is attractive b/c it resembles the cumulative average of a lot of faces, which actually isn't common or "average" paradoxically. That's her. Aside from slightly wideset googly eyes which kinda add to her appeal. I would say she isn't strikingly or esp pretty b/c usually these faces are average with some deviant positive features that stand out. But she's not mid or anything, guys online just like to shit on her or downplay just because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:16 PM
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off their rocker? are you 70
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:09 PM
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Proof that it's not necessarily easier to date as a woman than as a man. Or proof that transitioning isn't always bad. Not saying I necessarily agree but I'm guessing that is the train of thought there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:08 PM
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Link to these stats showing most single men under 30 are single by choice b/c they are pulling different puss on the reg?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:45 PM
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What's your point? The dude was originally saying these men are a select group of losers when it's literally the majority of men under 30. Now he wants to say that a lot of these single men under 30 are actually playing the field so he doesn't have to backpedal on his select group of losers premise. Just LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:41 PM
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The majority of men complaining and struggling and propping up the lonely men's movement are under 30. When you see documentaries about single male loneliness, they are largely talking about men under 30. Also the men here on this sub who talk about struggling with dating, are mostly under 30. Which tracks, since the highest percentage of single men is in the under 30 demo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:34 PM
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Over 60% of men under 30 are single, and most of the men complaining are under 30, so where are you getting this idea it's a select group of losers, unless you just think the majority of men are losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:24 PM
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A lot, if not most of these incels are also under 30. I don't think it's too much to ask for a 20-something guy to want a 20-something woman with a low-ish bodycount. Obviously some take it too far with the virgin fantasy but low body count doesn't imply low sex drive, just a woman who isn't promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:18 AM
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So the men who are "settling" for women who bring nothing to the table aren't really settling b/c they tend to be manwhores able to sleep with multiple women on a routine basis. Re: screaming incels, I don't know, what is your evidence if even anecdotal that they are super picky? If the men struggling in dating here on this sub are any indication it does not seem like their standards are abnormally high the way they speak fondly of the women in their social circles they are either considering or…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:30 AM
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So I know you're not necessarily the one saying this, but to set the record straight all the women (or men) saying guys are delusional and only going for 8+/10 stacys are wrong, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:27 AM
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.....Men do value friendships...they just aren't a replacement for romantic or sexual relationships...? Men also struggle a lot more in dating than they do making friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:38 AM
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So would you say most americans (easily a third) who experience GERD from things like coffee or chocolate, spicy or citrusy stuff actually are doing so b/c of their previously bad diets, not b/c of the actual foods themselves Although I don't remember experiencing this when I was drinking coffee with lots of sugar and cream and lots of chocolate candy or cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:30 PM
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Can you give us examples of these so-called RP men demanding the truth from women who give polite rejections? I don't recall seeing much of this if at all and also don't see the incentive for these men to do so. At that point they already know she's not interested and RP men for the most part see attraction as non-negotiable in that moment anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:28 PM
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I'm 27. Obviously maybe too young for the long-term complications, but still overall I keep hearing how eating better is supposed to make you feel better and such. And GERD isn't necessarily an argument against that, I just noticed the irony that the past few months I've felt not that great. I'm sure stress doesn't help either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:17 PM
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Are you saying if I had a better gut biome then tomatoes and citrus fruits and other acidic but otherwise healthy foods wouldn't give me GERD?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:04 PM
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Where is the evidence that porn has ruined men's expectations when there is daily evidence on this sub that even the weird neurodivergent terminally online men on here most likely to have pornstars on the brain just seem to want a girl they vibe with as they use the dailychat as almost a journaling space about their dating experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:45 PM
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I'm sure processed and refined shit does harm like makes you gain unhealthy fat and then all the downstream metabolic complications but sometimes I wonder if it's actually better than whole foods then for GI health. What's the point of insoluble fiber if it actually clogs you up and slows motility rather than moving things along? i.e. "Is fiber a psy-op?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:43 PM
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I mean it obviously isn't, it just makes me chuckle bitterly and realize how gray things are instead of processed = bad and eat clean and whole = automatic good
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:37 PM
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Just gotta laugh at the absurdity of things sometimes. Ate like complete shit, sat my fat ass around doing zilch and felt fine for years. Started eating more fruits, salads, veggies and working out and now I've had like acid reflux/GERD and burping for the past few months, and they tell me to watch out when exercising and cut back on tomatoes and citrus fruits and even fiber for bloating. And coffee ?? Which I fucking love and take without any cream or sugar. When I was eating twinkies and slurp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:32 PM
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I'm probably biased, but honestly I don't think if a man asked a similar question here the answers from women would be nearly as understanding or helpful. There would be a lot more "well blame biology" answers and answers that just divert toward how women have it just as bad or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:38 AM
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Except none of the comments have been mean. I can't believe I'm saying this but sometimes the male posters here deserve a bit more credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:30 AM
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Yeah I'm just saying women still have it easier than men even as they hit the wall or lose attractiveness. A lot of people seem to have a problem with this idea and call it misogynist or incel thinking. Like women are basically always going to have it easier, what more do they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:21 AM
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It also just has to be reiterated that women lose their desireability as they age but still have a higher SMV than their male counterparts up until like 50. The advantage is just not as gigantic, instead of having a huge leg up it's just a leg up, and there are still people who react to this idea of decreasing female SMV with outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:21 AM
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I mean what do women want unattractive men to do? Nobody cares about the unfortunate circumstances of others in the dating race.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:13 AM
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Socioeconomic class def plays a huge role, for some upward mobility is impossible, that's why I said the diet and fitness thing is infinitely easier and yet many people don't even bother to stick with it. Also since even getting people to devote to improving their fitness is difficult before we even talk about finances or career which is either much harder or impossible that further supports the fact that the bar moving once more men try to self-improve is fairly moot and not a potential threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:04 PM
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You would think there would be a lot more fit people then - or at least, following a regular exercise program and a diet of moderation seems a lot easier than getting rich. 70% overweight with 40% clinically obese speaks to the contrary unfortunately. It's not like there are a lot of smart or rich people among the 70%. This before considering a lot of the remaining 30% aren't healthy, they just aren't technically overweight. Fit, rich and smart men are very rare, but it's not that common to find…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:31 AM
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Not only that, most men won't. If you follow a bare bones exercise and diet regimen with any amount of consistency that probably puts you above like 80% of men in that metric bare minimum without even trying anything else. Even 10% more men hopping on the wagon to catch up to you is not going to ever be an issue of concern bc frankly, most people just don't give a shit. They actively know it will make them more attractive and yet they don't care enough to do anything. I imagine it's a similar ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:40 AM
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i definitely am not paranoid of being physically hurt like if the genders were reversed but more like paranoid they'll say or do something that makes me feel embarrassed or self conscious and more depressed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:24 AM
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Am I missing some info, why don't they just wash the sheets?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:23 AM
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are you an alcoholic?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:22 AM
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No, it also applies to dating. Women have it much easier getting casual sex but still have it significantly easier in dating. Find me a 5/10 woman who has trouble finding a bf, unless she won't date anyone under a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:45 PM
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How much of this is b/c women marry men they weren't sufficiently attracted to in the first place but decided to settle b/c of betabuxx benefits?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:08 PM
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doesn't change the fact that women have dating opportunities that rival that of men many points above them in attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:02 PM
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And yet as long as they are thin there are armies of men who find them sufficiently attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:35 PM
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I feel like I see this happen within families. The girl being very smart and driven and well-adjusted and her brother being kind of weird and slow. It's probably due to them being treated differently, but I'm not sure whether it's parents giving girls more attention b/c of bias or them giving boys more freedom and trusting things are going to turn out fine w/o realizing they need to play a more active role. For the latter it probably also turns into the daughter(s) receiving more attention but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:57 PM
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Nobody here is normal. At best they are weird but not in a bad way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:32 AM
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But the chance of this one guy being the best among 1000s of men in any metric is small. But I think moreso the guy hitched to her is at a disadvantage. She's with him every day, she is likely to be bored at least to some extent. She also sees the worst of him and when he's at his most unattractive bc couples are exposed to each other during their best and worst times. Much easier for her to be enamored or impressed by a new guy in public or in a context where he is always doing his best to impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:38 AM
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You might be reaching a bit. Take a look at the couples around you not all the men are genetic lottery winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:28 AM
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Women want to be equals with men, but also find their male equals invisible or repulsive and want to date, fuck and marry men better than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:23 AM
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What? The premise is you'll end up hating women if you had a bad relationship with your mother or sisters. If your relationship with them was good why would you be a misogynist? It's a premise I don't entirely agree with, but that's what we're talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:59 AM
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Ironically you give misogynists way too much credit for being logical in their feelings. Plenty of men love their moms and feel resentment toward women in general. Granted I'm sure having a bad relationship with your mom increases the chance he'll hate other women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:57 AM
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I don't think women are surprised....they just don't really like it, predictably. tbf watch what they do not what they say is a good rule to follow in general, toward everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:20 AM
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Women are increasingly outearning men, which means their pool of men they'd consider dating or marrying is also shrinking. Regardless of what people say about money not mattering. This is the real hypergamy which involves social status and standing in turn strongly tied to income. Many articles to support this trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:17 AM
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There's no way she's not talking about her sex life with her friends. All her friends know what your dick looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:02 PM
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Well then tell that to the mainstream media and politics who are solely focused on one of those two. The fact that I don't need to say which one and everyone will know which one it is, no matter what side they're on, is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:21 AM
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If u aint attractive how will women know you're abusive? If a woman is entertaining a guy's shitty behavior for any extended period of time he probably is above average in looks or has other things like charisma and status. Women aren't sliding into 5/10 nobody's DMs or interacting with him much less dating or fucking him. Modern women saying all the men they've dated and fucked have been d-bags are just telling on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 06:07 PM
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LOL no. If you go by just the upvotes and downvotes it's clear this place overall still supports and sides with blue-pill and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:41 PM
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It's not just FDS posters but the mainstream that makes it acceptable to group men altogether. How many articles have there been out there in high-profile publications telling men to do better, telling them what they are doing wrong, how they are problematic, misogynist, creepy? Not some men, just men in general? All men? That's what I mean, it's not just select groups of man-hating FDS people. There is no equivalent for large-scale media like this toward women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:40 PM
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I'll agree both sides speak of each other as monoliths often and get upset when the other side does the same thing. However I see it being much more acceptable in the grand scheme of things socially and culturally when one side does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:39 PM
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So my point is the fuckboi life might be the less stressful and terrible option. The relationship game is becoming less and less worth playing. Even if she "doesn't leave" you're still spending a lot of time and resources with a shallow entitled person addicted to TikTok. If you agree about the undesirable personality traits of most women (and men tbf) in the modern day why would you want to commit to one? And the saving grace being if and when it falls apart you can find a replacement easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:37 AM
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It's funny how women are allowed to talk about men as a monolith, and when you call them out on it it's "Well duhh obviously not all men but enough men that it's a problem, it doesn't need to be said there are exceptions." Ofc we know what happens when men say the same thing about women. Then it's the oppressive patriarch putting them all into a box.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:24 AM
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You're fucked either way unless we fix our tech-enabled cultural propensity toward shallowness and the next best thing always being a click away. If women commit to you b/c you're attractive trust she's got her eye on other attractive men when you're not around. Your good looks can't override lack of morals, loyalty and selfishness disguised as empowerment. You see a woman demanding 6 figures 6-pack 6 feet, why would you want to be with her even if you fit those standards? Shit's going to be mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:12 AM
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Because people are selfish and want to be happy. Also, if feeling guilt or regret or self-hate stopped anyone then you'd see a lot more people choosing to stay single. I don't know why you think this is a man-only thing. I imagine a lot of people have felt this way and still date or marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:25 AM
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Pretty sure for most people, man or woman, the amount of guilt they feel for their past has little to do with whether they seek out relationships. Like completely unrelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:22 AM
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I think women are so used to being given compliments for their looks that over time it becomes meaningless to them. They also know a lot of men will fuck a hole in the wall and hit on women out of desperation or low standards so it's not a sense of validation either, and they also know women hand out compliments on instagram like candy even to their ugly friends. They know this b/c they also do it. It's a sense of grass is greener, I notice a lot of women want to be acknowledged and admired for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:04 AM
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Yet again I don't think women actually care about each other like they say they do. Anyone who has worked with a large number of women in the same space can attest to this. Granted I don't think men give a fuck about each other either but there isn't this illusion of unity or brotherhood to fight some imaginary enemy. I can talk about male suicide rate and how boys are struggling in school all day but I still haven't done anything about it IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:51 AM
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But somehow women aren't denigrating themselves by having sex with a guy in order to secure commitment. The practice is not just normalized in the conventional context but also now with things like situationships, spread it for plate-spinning chad in the hopes eventually he'll come around and choose just her b/c she's so special.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:48 AM
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Okay then why didn't you just say so lol Earlier in another exchange you didn't mention it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:38 AM
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Again, you literally admitted your idea of an average guy is a 7-8/10. So are you just separating yourself and saying you're abnormally picky compared to other women? Bc if other women think like you do then the problem is women's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:29 AM
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People can have a height fetish but height is inherently not a fetish. Women are naturally drawn to tall men, straight up delusional to think it's either/or for them. Countless men with a lifetime of experience and observation report women constantly stating clear preferences for tall men. It's biology, it's common sense, it's apparent and obvious in any environment men and women interact. Saying height is a fetish is like saying liking pretty women is a fetish for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:57 AM
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Really, i'm curious now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:54 AM
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who's meteor man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:32 PM
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I won't ever say short(er) men can't get a date, plenty of 5'8 - 5'10 men dating with little issues because they have qualities, I'm just saying being over 6' and also fit is such a huge leg up. If a guy is average height and cute he'll get interest here and there, if you added a few inches of height and an athletic frame on him he'd be "that guy" every woman whispers about and wants. Sounds aspie like i'm overanalyzing but it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:17 PM
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You aint even facially ugly if I remember correctly. You'll do fine. 6'3" and jacked? That's top percentile easily, no problem at all unless you are socially garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:13 PM
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What a weird hostile response after I simply asked for more elaboration for the sake of discussion. Just sayin, you're in the minority here and other women heavily disagree with you, so there's no reason to take you seriously unless you bring more to the table. But obvi you don't want to b/c you won't "benefit" lol which is fine too. Do what u want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:09 PM
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If he was 5'7" people would be like "Yeah, he's a cutie, hehe." Not in the top 10 male models of all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:05 PM
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There are many women here who say just that, or at least that it's what they look for first before other things. Tbf nobody on here is a good representation of a normal everyday person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:53 PM
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Fuccckkk heightpill and bodypill are so legit. I feel short sometimes even though I'm 6', there are plenty of men taller walking around. But the heightpill doesn't resonate hard b/c I think shorter men can't pull but more like a tall good frame halo's a man so hard. Obvi face matters but you can literally be just whatever in the face and almost be seen as gigachad if you're tall and athletic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:49 PM
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Putting aside my own perspective for the sake of convo, many women here would disagree and say looks is at the very least, a high priority if not among the highest. Would you have any explanations for why women on this sub might say this? Do you think women who prioritize looks over all else have something wrong with them or?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:36 PM
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Doesn't reflect reality in any sense whatsoever, but I don't expect you or any variety of dudes of your ilk to agree. Literally just takes one decent looking 5'8" guy with a cute gf to prove you wrong. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:44 PM
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Face is EVERYTHING, but it won't work if you don't have the right height or a decent body? Read what you typed back to yourself and see if it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:38 PM
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Tall women, broad shoulders on women (actually dislike narrow shoulders), larger than normal hands and feet on women. I actually find small hands and feet (or in general) on women kinda repulsive and I don't know why. All of this just adds up to there being more woman, although I'm not into fatness or chubbiness. Also long legs, but that's conventional. Still appreciate nice assets and curves though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:46 PM
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Also shows she's more comfortable with herself. Means less awkward interactions and easier cohesion in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:44 PM
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I think men are increasingly coming to see how important her personality is despite being very late to the party. A growing distrust of women which makes them select more for traits that make women seem like they would be loyal and faithful in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:41 PM
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Gross. I've met a lot of women I would've been gaga over but then I saw the long fake nails.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:35 PM
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That't not unconventional though. Unless you're talking about a loud laugh many might find annoying but you find endearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:35 PM
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Also very legit. Social proof and value is king. I would esp agree about personality as long as it's the part of the personality that infers the first two.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:27 PM
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Face is overrated. I talk to a lot of women (ages between 20 and 40) and every once in a while they'll collectively agree a guy is hot and then simp over him. The guy almost always isn't ugly facially sure. But it's usually the height, style, and body that sells him. His face is sufficient, but I see shorter, skinnier (or chubbier) guys with better faces getting overlooked for these tall fit men all the time. Also the guy tends to be not old but also not necessarily young (maybe 30ish), often wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:22 PM
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It can and should go both ways. As bodily autonomy is important nobody is saying women should be forced to have sex with men. At the same time people should recognize sex or the feeling of being desired are very real human needs even if they won't physically die without them. The long-term mental or psychological implications and possible deterioration of health is another story. It's a problem that affects more men than women in modern society. A lot of what men want isn't the government provid…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:49 PM
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So you actually agree then that binary thinking is basically appropriate because you think this radar is overall effective bar outlying exceptions. I suppose I'd have to disagree. Not just based on the amount of women who did not find out these men were assholes until later on - just today came across a post in another sub where a woman talks about how the men she meets don't show their true colors until later, but also just in general it's not that hard to hide the worst parts of yourself. I'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:21 AM
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If you've approached you've already shown direct interest. It's especially obvious if it's a complete stranger o someone outside of your circle you don't know well. Not everyone is like my friend who was so naive to think a guy she had never met from a different dept at work asked her to go out on a walk for lunch and she seriously thought maybe he just wanted to be friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:25 AM
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More binary thinking: Let's break this down: Intuition is not some perfect measure and no women I know really claim that it is. There are many women here who say they can sniff out misogyny and shitty men upon first meeting, often as a way to tell men it's their personality that is the cause of their dating struggles. Since they mention no caveats, it's fair to interpret they mean their intuition is as perfect or at least reliable as can be bar exceptions. Men address this with binary thinking b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:35 PM
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Anyone coming to the slow realization that 95% of things you read online, whether just opinions from random people or content from official sources or experts, is just at absolute best a small misleading part of the picture or pure unadulterated bullshit? I've just been experiencing a greater and greater dichotomy between what I've read and heard people say on the internet vs what is actually true or what happens IRL. It's strangely comforting rather than infuriating, like oh good the earth, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:06 PM
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the irony
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:33 AM
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LOL the way yall completely lose your shit on this topic is just....x) like just bringing it up strikes all the nerves and sensitive spots at once
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:19 AM
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I think if you specify that the quality of women doesn't necessarily need to be high or top and we're including average to slightly above average women then it starts to look even better for the healthy 6/10 extrovert. If we're saying they need to be all high quality options then even women will need to be at least 6/10 if not more to have unlimited options of high quality men if we're not counting random one-off pump and dumps (and I don't feel like we should). If anything she might need to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:59 PM
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I mean he doesn't have to be insanely charismatic or high status. He just needs to have decent social skills and tends to be well liked wherever he goes. Which honestly I don't think is that hard? But I don't know. I think a lot of people who congregate online are often the ones who struggle most with social interaction, reading cues and the room and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:35 PM
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If it's such a simple issue why are you so triggered with the idea of a mandated paternity test? Seems like you just want to talk down to men just because. There are a lot of things that are simple that are put in place to protect people b/c life and all types of circumstances happen and not everyone is smart enough or in the proper state of mind to take all precautions. Also, again, to avoid the potential friction and confrontation between people when someone suspects something. If he's the fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:31 PM
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6/10 with high charisma and social proof is minimum. I'm assuming unlimited dating options doesn't necessarily mean he can literally get or charm any woman, but that he will never ever lack opportunities with attractive viable women as long as he maintains those qualities/stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:32 PM
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So lemme ask again. Do you think the women here are better at drawing equal and fair attention to the worst of female behavior or maybe it's b/c it's again a debate sub where men and women are out for their own interests re: dating? Let me also again clarify, blaming a woman for entertaining a relationship with a guy she knows is an abusive POS in no way implies men can do no wrong - literally the entire point of the blame is that she's with a guy who does a lot of wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:28 PM
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also applies to asia the northern arid desert regions have shit food the more tropical regions with much more fertile land gave way to better cuisine just compare northern vs southern chinese food, no contest japan is also north but it's different b/c they have more diverse topography and get more rainfall which allows for more fertility
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:08 PM
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why'd you give it a nose
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:05 PM
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this is a pilled gender debate sub. Blaming the woman for her bad decisions isn't equal to siding with the abusive guy - they are in fact siding with themselves or the nonabusive men first and foremost with the emphasis being on her bad decisions. In your honest opinion do you think PPD women are better at calling out and holding the worst of women accountable?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:02 PM
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Really depends on the people/tribe. Traditional and maybe even modern eskimo or masai diets are almost entirely meat. It's a pointless back and forth b/c in reality ancient peoples developed their diet in accordance to convenience and availability over time and here we are in modern day trying to bring morality into it. It's like the converse argument that we were never meant to eat large amounts of carbs. Like pretending the largely vegetarian tribes didn't exist and instead of grains or vegeta…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:45 PM
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I feel like chunky but built guys are onliy popular in america bc almost everyone is at least kind of chunky so chunky and built is better than just chubby/fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:32 PM
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Her telling me she liked me better before is a roundabout way of expressing she's happy for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:28 PM
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Seems hard to believe if this was actually her type she wouldn't have had a boyfriend who was that type by now and the reason is b/c her type hasn't approached her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:43 PM
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Still seems like a weird disrespectful and dishonest thing to say. I would assume she'd be happy for me, if she is finding it problematic that I'm actually somewhat physically attractive now it seems like it's her own issue(s) and problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:41 PM
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I guess it just so happens her boyfriend is conventionally attractive and fit, even though her ideal type is a guy with "more to love". I also don't think there are any fat men in her dating history. Occam's razor sometimes the simplest explanation is the most accurate. Your friend's example isn't entirely comparable, he probably just traded one type of attractive for another.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:31 PM
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Heh. There does seem to be a whole lot of "Some women like __________. Not me tho hell to the no. But you'll find someone someday I'm sure, you deserve someone special."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:17 PM
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I'm sure these women exist, but her bf isn't that type and nothing she says or does reflects this is her type.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:16 PM
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.......do you not have opinions on how others choose to behave? Nobody lives in a vacuum, established norms affect everyone which is why drugs are illegal even if you are only harming yourself. At the very least, I am concerned at the world my children will be growing up in and its modern values. Sure, feminism will never be satisfied b/c they can't stand that even a minority of men disagree with them despite having an entire international network of media machines pushing their narrative and at…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:11 PM
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I think men are acting too feminine Brutish uncouth masculinity isn't good either but the pendulum is swinging too hard the other way A lot of women sure don't seem to think things are changing for good...feminism has reached many of its goals and they just keep wanting more and still overwhelmingly play victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:05 PM
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Been getting a lot more attention and stares from women since hitting 195 lbs at 6' from 220-225, which you would think isn't that big of a difference. Then my female friend goes "Awww I liked you more when you were a teddy bear". Women, why do you lie to your guy friends like this? Edited in light of some replies: Seriously, where are the women you guys say like bigger men? As in given mostly fit male options, they would proactively choose the fat one? I don't think I've ever met one. Basically…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:02 PM
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Men these days exhibit much more feminine behavior than men just a couple decades ago. If femininity was seriously so looked down upon this wouldn't be happening especially in larger modern cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:58 PM
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I mean, men are a lot more feminine these days esp in modern cities. Doesn't seem like there are a lot of men going 'fuck this'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:57 PM
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.....Men call out their despicable behavior all the time, they also do this indirectly when saying women go for shitty men. The mainstream default is to be critical toward men and tell them they are problematic; most people follow this and this includes most men. Show me where and how the men are siding with the abusive guy here? This is a sub centered around dating, ofc people are going to frame this in a certain context. But since women are so focused on defending themselves it's always mental…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:42 PM
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It goes without saying deadbeats and psychos are not good men. The men complaining about dating here are focusing on how these women tend to gravitate toward or disregard the glaring red flags these men carry. Women here say they can smell misogyny coming off a man upon first meeting and automatically assume men who struggle must be giving off toxic vibes (just world fallacy) when their behavior and choices in men say the opposite. The men complaining about dating struggles are not the men who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:42 PM
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many women here but #notallwomenhere
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:29 PM
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That's going to be a lot of people's logic Conversely there are a lot of people who hate him even more now bc they are reacting to the feeling that he has a better chance of winning the election Getting shot has garnered more negative attention and insults from his detractors than most things he actually said and did
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:28 PM
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But women say they can sniff out misogyny at the drop of a hat?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:25 PM
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Paternity tests should be required simply to protect people and shouldn't be an issue of trust. The same way we have laws protecting people from other things, nobody's complaining we have laws against theft bc we don't trust people not to steal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:20 PM
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These quizzes always show that I am way more left than I think I am. I would've considered myself a right-leaning moderate but it's usually slightly left of the middle and in this quiz I got democratic mainstays. I feel this shows just how far left leaning the zeitgeist has become in the US so comparatively speaking I always feel I'm more right-leaning than I actually am bc I'm constantly disagreeing and feeling aversive toward what is pushed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:41 PM
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I'm guessing a lot of the younger women are saying clean shaven and the older women saying they really appreciate a good beard as long as it's not too much or messy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:35 AM
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So since most men don't have a "great" face or defined face, by default would you say most clean shaven men are just naturally unpleasant if not ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:34 AM
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I might prefer the AI generated one if her face was slightly more defined/less puffy. I like her eyes and lips. Kruger I used to be enamored with but maybe it just wore off on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:04 PM
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Legit. Unless you count americans being fatter with worse style, scandinavian people on average look like plain white people to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:01 PM
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People want to single out slutshaming or stigma or overemphasis on body count when most of these women don't need to tell anyone anything or reveal their past. Unless it's something like having kids and being a single mother. That's a different story b/c there are real-life tangible implications and consequences should a man decide to date or marry one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:35 PM
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These are broad general concepts literally said by any RPer so attaching Tate's name to this specifically seems like you're just using it for emphasis since he's a high profile polarizing figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:31 PM
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I mean you're right in that women have always been pickier and hypergamous, but it's not like men aren't forced to settle for fat, entitled, promiscuous, or feminist women even if it's not their ideal. I don't think women having it easier in dating changes the validity of the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:23 PM
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I dunno, seems short enough to see if she's someone who places a lot of value on height. Maybe I'll say 5'4 instead. Also when we talk over the phone I should disguise my voice so it sounds like a bridge troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:04 AM
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From my experience, many women do have a more specific type, but she'll make an exception for the chadliest chad even if conventional chads aren't her thing. She may not seek him out on purpose but if he tries his luck he's getting a chance at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:17 AM
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I'll join that club soon hopefully
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:12 AM
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My distrust of women is such that I almost want to stand by an ultimate test as in she has to be okay with being with me forever while thinking that I'm broke and ugly. I'll also lie about my height and say I'm 5'6". If we talk a lot over the phone or messaging and she falls in love with my broke, busted short ass then I might relent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:58 AM
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The most ridiculous thing I've heard on this sub (a very high bar) of the week is the idea that average women struggle just as much as average men and are also invisible. Like if you are floundering in situationships with men both in and out of your league, you have to be pretty friggin visible. The caveat is that it's a lot less likely for a woman to entertain a casual arrangement with a man simply on her level. Does anyone actually know an average woman with no major red flags or personality f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:51 AM
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What type of fiction? Not fiction geared toward female audiences, that's for sure. I don't even know if it's common in fiction for men. At least the guys are accomplished and probably not ugly. At worst it will be like a tough guy who has an odd feature but still has masculine qualities and competence ie "He had a nose that was the result of generations of resilient rabble-rousing stock, slightly big, projecting and askew but nevertheless set him apart from his peers." He will also for sure be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:23 AM
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That guy straight up looks like a girl though. The only thing that stops me from finding him attractive is knowing it's not a woman and the flat chest being a turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:10 AM
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Ok so no offense to you, you like what you like, but I always find it kind of weird when women try to comment with the underlying inference that conventional male beauty standards are bunk without also revealing that they aren't straight to begin with. I've had women say this IRL too about how the male gaze is inaccurate b/c they don't find masculinity attractive. Then later they say they are lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:54 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/am-i-a-good-femboy-3-v0-qjorwx8xs65b1.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2000a03c3a8463155f14d2909399ca3efebe11f3 If you're attracted to guys like this, I don't believe you when you say you are straight or attracted to just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:22 PM
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If by commitment you mean obligatory resentful sex every once in a while, resentment in general bc she's not sexually attracted to you, and the daily routine, boredom and misery of a dead relationship, then beta buxx-driven commitment sounds like the opposite of what a man would want. I would honestly rather jerk off for the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:15 PM
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Are you also attracted to women to a great degree? If so then you're not the women I'm referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:00 PM
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Every time a woman says she likes feminine soft faced dudes it just turns out to be a young chiseled pretty boy. You basically just like young Chads. Yes, this includes kpop and emo boys and all those guys with cauliflower hair on tiktok and Timothee Chalamet. It's possible you could be one of the very small minority, but actual soft-faced feminine acting men are not a hit with any woman leaning straight. Esp if the femininity means wider hips or narrower shoulders or higher BF and a potato face…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:47 PM
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Men are simpler than women but not always that simple. As a straight and horny guy I still can't understand the appeal of having sex with women whom you find mediocre looking or not hot enough to "introduce to friends." Not worth the time or social navigation. Even if I was a Chad who could pump and dump all the 5/10s all I wanted that sounds mentally exhausting. On a related note it's this mentality that men always want sex and none of the context matters that makes us treat male assault and ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:33 PM
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Goalpost moving. If average women are at least "used for sex" aka agreeing to have sex then being disappointed there's no commitment, then they are being noticed quite a bit. How is this similar to average men again? Completely ignoring for a second that most people can't remember the last average woman they knew who had trouble landing a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:26 PM
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Yea I get that, but there are very different psychology(s) behind mass or public shooting and domestic violence/abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:12 PM
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Who said that? Certainly not the trope of the incel looking shooter, which completely applies here. Chad has every motivation and reason to keep things the way they are b/c everyone loves him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:54 PM
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Have you seen the perp's picture? It's like reverse eugenics, how many generations of cousin and sister fucking do you need to arrive at that hapsburg looking ass jaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:40 PM
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He may not be suddenly a 9/10 if he's a 5 but different culture-driven beauty standards and attitudes or simply relative scarcity make certain men much more appealing in certain countries. As in the women will literally rate him as more physically attractive in said country than women in the US. Most low-hanging fruit for an example is the gawky white guy. He may not be movie-star handsome but pale skin and thin builds are still much more appreciated in Asia than the west, to not talk of the col…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:58 PM
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But you see this a lot here. A post that tells men that they dont actually just want average women like they say they do, b/c average looks a lot worse than they think. In a way it's true. The average woman is overweight and might be invisible to a lot of men. At the same time I don't necessarily think if you're a young fit man it's entitled of you to want a young fit woman no matter the supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:49 PM
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I see two conversations on PPD often. One is that a 5/10 isn't ugly, it's just average, and people often say they are 7 b/c they see themselves as above average when they're not. The other convo is how 5/10 is actually uglier than what people think here. The average man or woman is not young (over mid 30s), fat, unremarkable potato face etc. Going by this young normal people are automatic 6s at a baseline as long as they aren't overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:05 PM
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It's like why in film and also video games there's this push for female main characters to look more "realistic" (a lot of gamers would say uglier) yet the men remain conventionally handsome and rugged. The truth is that men are okay with hot male protagonists and women are not as okay with hot female protagonists b/c of the sociopolitical climate currently; creators and producers have no reason to even it out by making the men fat potato-faces because not even men want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:36 PM
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I tried, but I also honestly think a lot of it is society's fault in how much it caters to women and feminism. Which in turn, isn't all women's fault either b/c society is still largely run by men and if things are run like this it's b/c powerful men think it's ok. If we're being honest it shouldn't be tough or some type of big congratulatory deal to have some self awareness and recognize the faults and flaws in both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:30 PM
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I assume you just want us to list negative/cringe or undesirable traits of the modern man from a male perspective. I'll try. overly feminine, taught to eschew masculinity bc of socialization about man = bad oppressor, ending up repulsive to the opp sex ironically when this is what they are told women want now, lack of male role models is also related to this addicted to porn and borderline pedophilic acquired preferences of shit like waifus and anime girls who look like they're 10 fat and out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:12 PM
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not fat, pleasant, loyal women ftfy Compared to tall handsome wealthy, fun The bar for women is on the ground which is why it's hard for men to readily feel equal empathy when people are forced to deal with leftovers. Leftover men and women are not remotely analogous. Even in direst straits, leftover women still have a much better chance and advantage in dating, and probably had to fuck up a lot more to get to leftover status to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:48 PM
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I don't think context is relevant in this discussion. It doesn't matter what you're talking about, whether it's libido, neuroticism, height or brain wiring, as long as society paints men as oppressors and women as victims it will always be much more acceptable to criticize men as a monolith and not as acceptable vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:29 PM
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You're so right. A person at a buffet who only wants fiilet mignon definitely has it just as bad as a starving homeless person. They can't control what they want to eat :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:21 PM
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When you say they admit and acknowledge women have it hard in dating that implies women actually have it hard in dating. Which they do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:49 PM
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Does it matter? Either way the woman is disgusted even if one is clearly more disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:31 AM
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What if I told you this place is a shitty representation of how the average straight male thinks or how anyone thinks. Thankfully. If you spend a lot of time in a pilled space you're a weirdo. Doesn't matter how successful or unsuccessful you actually are at dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:10 PM
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I assure you a 5/10 modern woman making 50k a year does not want to date her equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:49 PM
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LOL just came across a reddit post titled "Why are women so beautiful?" I don't see simping and men playing nice ending before the end of this century.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:14 PM
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Women are not indifferent toward men, it's just a lot easier for women to find sex and relationships. At least before 30 it's clear most women want a relationship and do not want to be single. They are indifferent toward men they find unattractive for a variety of reasons and so they have no need for them. Vs men who are struggling in dating, they of course will come across as needy and thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:36 AM
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I shit on women who say that all the time. If women could sniff out misogyny there wouldn't be so many women saying they didn't know the guy was an abusive POS to defend their decisions, either that or they knew about the misogyny but decided they were okay with it b/c of other shallow reasons, until it became not okay. It's just a way for women to shame men using the halo effect when the men have any type of complaint or struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:10 AM
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Blackpillers when ugly or average men say looks don't matter the most: "You're just telling on yourself, it's clear you have no idea what it's like to be a goodlooking guy bc you'd see just how much attention women give attractive men." Blackpillers when goodlooking men say looks don't matter the most: "Clearly you wouldn't understand b/c you take all the female attention for granted. Of course you're going to think personality matters."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:48 AM
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it was a general statement aimed at everyone in this sub lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:00 PM
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Lesbianest if you were entirely or even mostly normal you would not be here regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:02 PM
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The world is full of white knights quick to join the mob to criticize men b/c they're virtue signaling, trying to gain favor with women, or just plain unable to think critically b/c it's always fashionable to defend women and shit on men, no one's denying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:59 PM
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It's true guys approach much less nowadays, but I would assume even then attractive women are still getting hit up or propositioned often within their social circles. But you answered my question when you said your friends basically have minimal social circles and stay inside or keep to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:04 AM
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Men are criticized for having high standards as a deflection when men criticize hypergamy eg "Men just want Stacy too". Men are criticized for having low standards when they point out how much easier women have it in dating eg "It's not women's fault men will date and fuck anything."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:10 AM
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this would make sense if everyone on tv was a leading man but they aren't also you look at his exes, their dating history isn't all handsome men either so why does davidson get singled out for punching above his league even then he's tall rich high status established comedian charisma, philanthropist honestly it would be surprising if he wasn't successful in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:13 PM
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Somebody explain to me why everyone thinks pete davidson is ugly? What are his ugly features aside from his eyes looking tired or high. I consider myself a pretty objective looks rater and I don't see the ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:09 PM
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More than the trad gender roles it's also more that RP recognizes these roles originally emerging due to immutable set-in-stone characteristics of human nature and difference between the sexes. My impression of all or most feminism is that they view these characteristics and resulting personality traits as the result of socialization more than biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:43 PM
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I mean the feminism you're describing that isn't against trad gender roles must be pretty niche b/c I've never heard or read about it. Not saying I don't believe you, just saying it makes sense when we talk about feminism to talk about the most commonly accepted and broadcast forms of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:35 PM
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This is going on a tangent but I don't doubt women have other women in their lives they care deeply about But I just don't see this broad 'women supporting and protecting other women' thing to be genuine My experiences in the workplace in all honesty tell me women are constantly talking behind each other's back and low-key resent each other or are just waiting for another to slip so they can be critical Not saying men can't be like that...i think overall men are taught to hold in their competiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:33 PM
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Doesn't RP also strongly infer the validity and justification of traditional gender roles due to the inherent nature of men and women? Eg men being the protectors, providers, women drawn to strong, aggressive ambitious conventionally masculine men, men being sexually attracted to youth and fertility etc. Isn't feminism against a lot of this, calls for the abolishment of gender roles and strongly supports the idea that these prescriptions are socially driven and fluid?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:27 PM
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women can probably tell (better) when a man lacks experience with women, but women can absolutely have trouble detecting shitty men from decent men, hence all the women saying they didn't know their SOs or spouses were such abusive POS when they first met
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:24 PM
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Women talking about Chads who happen to be assholes: "He's been through a lot." "The ugly guys are just as shitty, might as well go for a hot one!" "he put in the work" "He's not a bad person, yall mistaking a go-getter with self respect and know how to stand up for himself with an asshole" Women to average men and below who happen to be decent people: "Everyone goes through shit, just deal" "Perhaps you're more entitled than you think so maybe aim a little lower" "You put in the work but life g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:58 PM
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Modern world caters to women there will always be way more white knights vs pickmes by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:42 PM
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He isn't letting the internet affect his perception of the world though. He realizes just how much better being off the internet is hence quitting reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:41 PM
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you mean pickme's?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:39 PM
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It's just a difference in nuance. Men have always been horny enough to just fuck without care. Probably many women too. That doesn't mean they are incapable of being exclusive to someone b/c they care about them and treasure the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:20 PM
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i've never met a straight woman who didn't like muscles just women who like them more and women who don't care as much and see it as a bonus
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:16 PM
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i can fix her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:42 PM
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men are okay with fucking with zero emotional investment, that's always been real
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:41 PM
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this is how you know sexual orientation isn't fluid (at least among men) bc if it was there would be a lot more guys going gay b/c of how much easier it is getting male attention
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:39 PM
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PPD on the one hand: Blame men and their low standards that's why women have it easier. PPD on the other hand: Men are just as hypergamous and deluded as women and always chasing Stacy. Inb4 'it's different people saying these things' It is not. Finally, for those men with actually low standards, did it ever occur to anyone they started out higher but they lowered them due to just becoming more realistic with what they could get?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:58 PM
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if your friends are attractive why are they giving men who look like they 'snuck onto earth' the time of day? Obviously they're going to have more attractive options.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:42 AM
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somehow i don't think you'd be okay with putting in more than 50/50 in situations where the man takes on more risk
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:37 AM
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thinking someone is fuckable doesn't or shouldn't necessitate catching feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:34 AM
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it's just personality differences too i can block out someone's hotness fairly easily if they're a friend and not everyone compartmentalizes readily like that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:30 AM
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technically but not really
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:27 AM
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I have woman friends I find attractive and woman friends I don't find attractive. It doesn't affect how I treat them. Maybe I'm just spoiled with all my porn and internet and gadgets but it's too much trouble to seek sex with these friends anyway and I genuinely care about them as people. If you're talking about using 'friend' as that awkward placeholder when you try to hit and it doesn't work out but you're in that awkward situation where you are still around each other and don't necessarily de…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:22 AM
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They want their man to be desired and checked for by other women, but don't want their man to act on any of them. i.e. they want a man other women want but they also need the man to want only them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:08 AM
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the sorority chick who wrote the article before the dadbod thing blew up in the media herself said main reasons for liking dadbods more was less pressure to look good/stay in shape and feeling insecure next to a fitter guy more attention toward her bc he spends less time in the gym the guy enjoys more pizza and beer presumably so she can enjoy pizza and beer don't need to be afraid of other women hitting on him or giving him attention Not really a glowing or convincing endorsement straight from …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:31 AM
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Rare outliers. They tryin to make it sound like dadbod is the norm a lotta women just prefer Even a lot of feminists are against this narrative bc it relieves men of accountability while female beauty standards still exist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:28 AM
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yeah but for other reasons. Not b/c of dadbod. "Man he's a POS but he look like he'd be very comfortable to cuddle with like a walking pillow" nah
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:25 AM
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Nobody ever stuck around or put up with a guy's red flags b/c of a dadbod like 'oh he do got that dadbod tho' or 'he do have that skinny body' Muscles/fit body or a good face actively ignite attraction, even if not all women place the same value on it, depending on the woman they'll potentially overlook flaws bc of them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:22 AM
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obvious OP is a mentally ill middle aged femcel type, obsessed with age, shitting on men, uses "scrote" like it's FDS in 2015 xD no shit women usually date just a bit older why does this need to be said but i wouldn't take anything she says seriously 41 yr old calling 35 year old men creepy and old x)x)x)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:31 PM
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Delusional to think a fit body does nothing for a man with an average face vs if he just stayed the way he was with a chubby/fat soft body like most other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:04 PM
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it's actually very [dis]provable, you just need to find a redditor who makes comments both insulting men who want sexbots and positive comments about male sexbots and then screenshot them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:08 PM
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it'd be sufficient to have average looking women go thru the experience of an average guy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:55 PM
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You're comparing mens rights with these misandric shitholes? Men's rights is honestly way too tame and the men are way too nice there probably bc all of the more extreme and incelly communities were banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:50 PM
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They're also fucking unbearable, I feel this way about basically anyone who revels in gossip or parasocial relationships with celebrities. Two gigantic red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:49 PM
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This is not comparable because there is no pre-signed agreement about domestic abuse. The law just is how it is. If one is that worried about domestic abuse and doesn’t feel that the current laws protect enough, then one should not live with that person. is your rebuttal literally that it's not comparable b/c we don't sign agreements promising we won't abuse our children or spouses? It’s based on the idea that marriage should be based upon love and not some kind of financial contract. Yes, any m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:30 PM
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Do you also think laws against domestic abuse/violence or child abuse cheapen things because it brings in the possibility that the parents may not always behave in the best interest of their offspring or spouse? That it's not always one big happy loving family? These laws exist to protect people in case anything goes wrong. Honestly we should just make prenups and paternal testing required by default to do away with any "But why is this necessary if you truly love and trust me" Your approach is …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:04 PM
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I don’t think that marriages should be entered into under the assumption that they could potentially end in divorce. Then you should be against the government's heavy hand in marriage. It's not entering a marriage thinking about potential divorce, it's entering a marriage thinking about the potentially life-changing and largely negative social, legal and financial repercussions should anything go wrong. I would personally not want to marry a woman with even the thought in my head that “this woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:43 PM
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imagine quoting where i ever said that most men who struggle suck socially, i would assume not all these men are nerds
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:24 PM
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You can be good at both. But nerds are nerds for a reason which is why they look, dress, and act unconventional and seem socially awkward. It's bc they are booksmart or into intellectual pursuits and niche hobbies and not that people or streetsmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:14 AM
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Only the insane will argue otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:13 PM
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Dude is obviously tall and conventionally handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:42 PM
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yeah but i need to be able to figure out an eating plan long term if i'm going to keep the weight off u cant be eating 800 calories of ice cream forever lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:35 PM
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Thx. I was at 220 a little over a year ago. I had a few setbacks but overall was just eating like shit and drinking too much so i feel like i had a lot of room to improve. To think I'd go from bmi of almost 30 to potentially 24 in 2 years is pretty crazy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:34 PM
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I might be able to hit below 200lbs (6 feet) by the end of July so I'll be ahead of schedule, maybe even get to 180 by 2025 which is insane for me. But aside from the weight loss, I don't feel particularly better or more energetic or mentally clearer or anything I swapped out pizza, tv dinners, burgers, pasta, pies and cakes for fruit, sweet potatoes veggies and a lot of low-fat sandwiches, chicken and fish, have limited my drinking Is eating clean overrated? I'm still gonna do it to lose more w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:58 PM
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A lot of nerds know they are smart and let it get to their head, their ego doesn't let them admit or consider the possibility they could be wrong when dating requires a different type of inherent almost primitive and intuitive smarts and awareness than academics or number crunching or statistical analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:42 PM
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You think it's a testament to how anti-woman this sub is. The many misandric posts by people who have not been banned here and also the net upvote difference between pro-woman and pro-man posts leads me to believe you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:03 PM
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If you read the things people, men or women, say in this sub without getting banned you'd see how ridiculous your notion sounds so you should maybe attribute this to instead a power-tripping mod.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:01 PM
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This place skews pro-woman or at least is more sympathetic to female points of view judging from upvotes/downvotes. Additionally men defend women on here much more than the other way around. Much worse things are said by female posters than "he's a misogynist" and yet these posters are not banned or still here. I have no idea where you got this notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:56 PM
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Point out someone is a misogynist and you're banned. ........lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:48 PM
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A lot of men who struggle with women are often very smart, but there are many different types of intelligence. They excel academically, in the workplace or at school and are very analytical so they think they can analyze and number crunch their way to victory in dating as well. Truth is it requires different type of cognitive competence including emotional intelligence and the ability to read the room nuance and body language and maintain smooth communication seamlessly. These men are deemed ner…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:38 PM
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You make 7 figures. You're fit. Even going by your own opinion that money and muscles only help a little you should be attracting above average women by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:33 AM
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It is absolutely ridiculous to suggest that as a self-described 6/10 fit man who makes 7 figures, you'd have trouble attracting at least 7s if not beyond. If you're struggling it's either one or more of 1) you are just awful socially or something is really wrong or 2) you are demanding only 9s or 3) you're a lot older and you only want women under 30. Or finally, maybe your location has a severe shortage of attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:09 AM
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He has no reason to answer. He can lie or say whatever he wants but to say nothing just lets the mystery of his trolling fester and thrive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:31 AM
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A more squishy man also means less attention and temptation from other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:03 AM
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Stop using nature and other animals as some type of argument or justification for human dating dynamics. Men: Males of many species don't stick around after impregnating females, deadbeat dads did nothing wrong Women: Females naturally gravitate toward the top males/bulls while the males are meant to compete and kill each other off, you got a problem with it, blame nature. In reality scientists estimate about 40% of couplings in nature are involuntary for one party aka rape so maybe don't use th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 08:58 PM
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Except...muscles and confidence help. Women love and stare at muscles constantly as long as he's not a freak. A lot of women say they don't care about muscles, disregard this and see where their eyes travel and what they do. The fact that you might have to work harder than someone who was born taller or better looking doesn't negate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:09 PM
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"men should solve their own issues" and yet they can't stop telling men it's their obligation and duty to be an ally or that "men are necessary" for feminism to succeed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:04 PM
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,,,,are you fr? OF is much more akin to a bunch of dudes pulling a train on a prostitute (high value, low value, same diff) vs dating and emotionally investing into someone exclusively like a gf or wife. Aside from those with extreme mental illness, no man cares about an OF girl like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:09 AM
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i was surprised too bc when you first encounter these spaces you do the automatic halo assumption where they sound like bridge troll degenerates so they probly look like it too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:21 PM
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You've actually met redpillers in real life? I've never talked to a single person who knows (or admits they know) about these pills IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:17 PM
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ah ok makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:57 PM
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So most people here are black right? No racist, it's just surprising, I can count like 10 frequent users minimum right away off the top of my head with likely many more so it's not just the POC sticking out more. I wonder if it's because a lot of the pill-based spheres and knowledge originated in black communities but correct me if I'm wrong. For the longest time I've assumed places like these discussing dating are mostly nerdy white people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:51 PM
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Cute is often a catchall term for attractive, many guys women say are "cute" don't look feminine at all. Hot is more like a primal visceral type of rawr and handsome isn't used that often in everyday convo versus writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:33 PM
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it blows my mind there are top-tier doctors posting blackpill in this sub. i have no idea what you look like but i've been around doctors quite a bit and know people studying to be doctors i can't even imagine a doctor with a nice house having trouble finding a decent woman to have a family with and goes without saying a lot of these doctors aren't esp lookers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:49 AM
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you aint even ugly then buncha chad and tyrone frauding in here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:13 PM
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preselection when u break up with your so you've been depreselected lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:40 PM
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It's not just rape or nothing. It's catcalls, unwanted attention, being made to feel uncomfortable, varying degrees of sexual assault. It's pretty disingenuous to assume zero correlation. If that was the case, why does this post even exist? Why is there even a premise of connecting clothing choice with male creepiness? Why do many women dress with the potential of creepy attention in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:12 PM
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And we shouldn't have to lock our doors b/c thieves shouldn't exist bc thieving is wrong, but here we are. You dress a certain way, it doesn't warrant harassment, but creeps and criminals are going to exist no matter what. You can educate and instruct men on a mass-level to respect women - we already do that - but I'm not going to recommend anyone leave their door wide open in a big city or go out in revealing clothing in a sea of people from all walks of life. You can also call the person carel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:03 PM
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How about 1980, 1990? 2000 even?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:36 PM
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TIL the only way to not be overweight is to spend all day in the gym Clearly that's what almost everyone in the late 20th century was doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:23 PM
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When women complain about lack of viable men, I don't really see this dismissive response of "it's just statistics". Usually it's followed by articles and media noise about how to fix these men or fix the problem, even if it doesn't directly blame the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:47 AM
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If most men were misogynistic and women wanted men who weren't misogynistic you wouldn't tell women they need to be realistic b/c of limited resources and supply and demand. You would say men need to fix their misogyny. Even if the non-misogynistic men were the "top 3%". Same deal with obesity and single motherhood. Why would we tell men to be more realistic instead of telling women to be healthier and make better life choices. Additionally, both of these traits are much more in one's control th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:22 AM
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In any sane world you would say your standard would be a young fit average girl and nobody would have a problem with it. Instead you get posts from BPers saying you need to be more realistic and less entitled bc most women are fat. Meanwhile, with female hypergamy it's "women are meant to be pickier" "everyone is entitled to their preferences".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:07 AM
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Yea but if you were following the train of thought ITT with any type of clear or calm mind you'd know I'm not talking about old fat men wanting thin young women so...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:49 AM
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Bc most of the men here are young and college-age? If they are esp conscious of their dating woes they probably also make an extra effort to exercise or eat well, over the average person. Bc you don't like their views you automatically assume they are fat neckbeards as well to match their weird personalities. And at the same time being told if they want a woman who's equally young and fit they're being entitled. They also struggle socially so they don't have the social circles to access interact…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:37 AM
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i seem to recall they didn't even mention attractive, just simply... not fat which was mindblowing to me, most people in college aren't fat
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:27 AM
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that's fine and even then, i account for differences in gender metabolism if the guy gained 50 lbs he has no right to complain about her gaining 80
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:24 AM
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Seems like men are shamed for wanting women on their level - e.g. a healthy man wanting a healthy woman - and women are encouraged for wanting men above their level. In the mainstream anyway, and also on this sub from BP members. Obviously not in RP or manosphere spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:21 AM
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I also remember some guys here not too long ago saying they were perfectly in-shape and college-age and healthy but it was impossible to get a gf who wasn't fat in their city/area.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:17 AM
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A lot of men who struggle with dating don't have the luxury of social circles for a variety of reasons. If they had normal social skills and development chances are this would have not become a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:12 AM
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fixed. kind of
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:06 AM
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fat or single moms...but a better correction is maybe, non-fat childless women are a minority
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:03 AM
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Society to men: Childless women of healthy weight are in the minority. You're going to need to readjust your standards to be more realistic. Check your entitlement and know your league. Society to women: Most men aren't at least 6 feet tall, in good shape, or high earners. But don't ever settle queen, he's out there somewhere, you deserve the best. Everyone is entitled to their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:59 AM
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Not sure if srs She literally just talks a lot of her lyrics b/c she lacks range and power
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:56 AM
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A common exchange is when women say they don't find stereotypically hot guys attractive and would prefer a chubby guy and then you press them on it and they say the hot guy is too unrealistic and too perfect and you're just like wha? So the problem isn't attraction it's more just virtue signaling or not wanting to be the ugly one in a relationship context.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:55 AM
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This is fine if you're over 30 or middle aged and fat yourself. A common sentiment here is that even young men in their 20s who take care of themselves and have average stats otherwise are entitled if they want a young woman who isn't overweight. A lot of the guys here are in this age demographic, some still in college, just trying to hit their stride. Again idc if somehow tomorrow all women become overweight and become single mothers, or all this "well the market will dictate ofc that since the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:37 AM
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Koreans do not have higher noses than Japanese ppl...you must have been looking at the ones who got surgery. And a heart-shaped face doesn't mean better (esp for men) as it depends on the person entirely and how their features come together. But I agree, Japanese people are overrated due to mass weebery in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:31 AM
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The Philippines is a legitimately poor and dysfunctional country though. Why is that? The ones I know here all have strong and loyal family ties and are industrious and resilient people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:13 PM
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Bro I highly doubt th -- Oh wait no you aren't gonna get me that easily
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:49 PM
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plenty of mean old broads here, it's too bad you have to be afraid of sending the wrong message just for being a decent human, maybe it's on some men as well. altho...i can't imagine how anyone would have any serious interest in anyone in a place like this but u a good one, best of luck in your gardening toodleoo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:27 PM
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You're a woman being nice on PPD and I am confused my circuits are shorting iwasn't programmed to handle this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:17 PM
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but that's real food what if you don't have any food
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:08 PM
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lmao why do people always fucking say this? It's just world fallacy c0pe. Women with more and higher quality options eg those in places with better living conditions have higher standards and women with less have lower ones. Beauty standards are also different which is why there is a joke about how white people can't tell an ugly asian woman from a pretty one and it works the other way around as well, and there is a huge dose of truth to it. You don't need science for this, it's countless anecdo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:51 PM
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Looks somewhat unconventional but has enough good features and overall height, pheno he shouldn't ever have a problem A smaller but still significant subset of women would say yes to his type off the bat
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:46 PM
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If you really think about it it's amazing that jerking off even works. Too bad we don't have anything like that for other drives like hunger.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:43 PM
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Ugly older white men go to other countries looking for sex or marriage for a reason. It's b/c these are previously colonized or western-influenced nations with populations who still very much look up to white and western things and people, and still remain relatively impoverished. You think the Philippines and Thailand are popular destinations by chance? Or Japan, even though Japan isn't poor and it's not quite to that extent anymore? If you fall into the aforementioned category you absolutely s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:30 PM
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japan too it can be considered cute and a unique distinguishing feature
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:28 PM
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where's the joke? that you tried to make an analogy to an annoying poster's schtick to even it out for the genders and it doesn't work?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:23 PM
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Height has no correlation with health, and actually taller people are at slightly greater risk for health issues Height is absolutely out of one's control, weight, bar extreme outliers like those with hormonal disorders, is completely in one's control
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:17 PM
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preaching to the choir ma'am rather than push change for healthier lifestyles or choices and eschew degeneracy, it's more convenient to say "the market decides your value" and soak in your sloth and privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:34 PM
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Tell that to a lot of the women here or these weekly posts that are like "akchually women who aren't fat or single mothers are less than ___ % of the population". What other purpose could there be for these posts but to normalize obesity and single motherhood and/or try to tell men they should lower their standards and be more "realistic".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:22 PM
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I would be careful with this controversial language as the people here don't take too kindly to common sense and basic fairness
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:04 PM
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LOL classic modern western desensitization to low standards surrounded by fat fucks suddenly everyone under a 25 BMI is "too skinny" and "looks like a skeleton" or must be genetically gifted
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:54 PM
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The problematic insinuation is that the average 20-something man is being entitled, unrealistic, greedy even by wanting a non-fat woman with no kids. Even if tomorrow suddenly 100% of women had kids out of wedlock and got fat that doesn't change the fact that wanting a non-fat woman with no kids shouldn't be unrealistic as long as the average man is reasonably responsible and healthy himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:10 PM
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seems too random and boring to be staged
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:49 AM
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yea i wouldn't go that far it's hard for me to separate cuddling and kissing from sex...like if you are into kissing and cuddling w men it'd be hard to see how you aren't also sexually into men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:44 AM
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that's what my friend said, he said it's normal it's just weird b/c i'll find once in a while there'll be a day after hanging out with someone and I had a good time with and I'll be thinking of that dude all day lol not in a weird way just a lot of fond thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:37 AM
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There are women here who will stand by the view that he did something morally wrong b/c he invaded the personal space of a woman without asking and potentially risked making her feel uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:33 AM
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I get as easily emotionally attached to men as I do women despite only sexually desiring women. I wonder if I'm panromantic but not sure that's actually a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:31 AM
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that's why they tell men to chase money and success not women when you chase money and success women eventually chase you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:26 AM
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i get the feeling you're just being tongue in cheek with a lot of this which is fine, but for the record i don't really see how this should make a diff either
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:16 AM
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i'm saying the reason you mentioned is unjustifiable simply b/c men are "strong enough" to force sex when there are so many other ways one can and should be held legally liable for sexual misconduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:13 AM
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Yeah i know the train of thought. So a woman isn't strong enough to force sex. So basically any of the creepiness before that doesn't matter? Fairly certain there are legal consequences for behavior that doesn't include up until rape. Also, I thought rape doesn't necessarily have to involve physical force? Is that why when a woman touches another woman who doesn't welcome it, it's awkward and "um okay" but when a man does it he goes to jail? I remember another comment here by a woman who said so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:08 AM
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male sexuality is considered threatening, that's why there was an uproar about a trans-woman in a sorority but there aren't any complaints about lesbians in sororities as far as I know, before even considering straight women are much more sexually fluid than men to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:33 PM
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Judging from her aesthetic I assumed she was some type of wannabe edgy alt but she's actually as middle of the road pop as can be. Felt similarly about Meghan Trainor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:49 PM
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actually you're probably right, i didn't think that one through i look back on my life and what you said is consistent we still naturally care about what the opp sex thinks of us tho
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:14 AM
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They tell you what they personally might like after assuming it's a guy they're already invested in or dating. On OLD your primary purpose should be to incite visceral attraction. That's why women make lists of things they want guys to do like 'text them a simple goodnight' and 'surprise them at the office with flowers' when obviously this shit might potentially land you in hot water with the authorities if she doesn't like you like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:20 PM
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altho, lying about it would actually work as well to an extent
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:16 PM
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It's just natural. like the women who say they dress and do makeup for themselves we're wired to care a lot about what the opp sex thinks of us men are born wanting to simp unless taught otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:14 PM
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It's not like I don't have asian friends or listen to asian people talk. Every modern culture values tall and strong men. Look at the media in Japan, Korea or China designed for the masses (mainstream movies or dramas), not talking about teenybopper pop stuff for teens or young girls. The prominent male leads, esp if they are love interests, are always tall with a decent build. From what I've observed, at least Korean and Chinese women bring up height quite often. When asian women seek out men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:05 PM
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It matters everywhere in the world. You don't think African or Asian cultures value height and dominance in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:27 AM
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there are armies of men simping hard for that sabrina whatever girl and she's not even 5'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 08:33 PM
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Virtue signaling and coming across as a decent person are very important to women due to being more of a hive mind or vulnerable to groupthink, it's not even a conscious decision a lot of the time. For the same reason high status or famous established men have their appeal and preselection is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:48 AM
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If you're actually an 8 and have the issues you describe it's def your mental health, even if female 8s have it even easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:33 PM
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Waste time mental exercise boredom Edit: damn u fast on the downvote button i barely hit send lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:04 PM
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So anyone complaining about unrealistic beauty standards is wrong then? Or any type of entitlement in any form? You just like what you like, want what you want? Beauty standards, expectations and preferences are significantly influenced by socialization and environment, this is common knowledge, but I'm not motivated to convince you otherwise because the women on this sub have a gigantic selective blind spot in this area and it's just one of many dumb ass things I've accepted about this place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:59 PM
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They want many things to change, pushing for different messages for this and that. Have to make sure men are socialized the right way so they arrive at the attitudes and perspectives they want, have to make sure men think all women and all bodies are beautiful. But their preferences, their preferences are sacred and evolved independently from society and should not be touched or questioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:26 PM
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Guys who are bitter about women or hold misogynistic beliefs absolutely can hide them. Evidence is all the relationships with abusive dynamics when the woman was unaware what he was really like when they first met. Not every POS abuser is a misogynist, bitter/jaded etc but there is absolutely huge overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:01 PM
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Have I ever met a vile POS man IRL? Yes I have. Once in a long while. The men here say lots of things that are critical and disparaging of women, and the women do the same. I don't see how this translates to them only wanting the top women. Because again, what the men ALSO say here doesn't reflect this and reflects a more realistic approach, re: "because we are using what they are actually saying". Until you show me an adequate amount of evidence that the men here, on average, refuse to settle u…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:42 PM
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I don't expect to find anything online. I don't do OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:03 AM
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Natural asian features are superior [to their aspired standards]. The korean men shaving their masculine jaws and making their eyes more googly is an atrocity. With the exception of naturally shorter height as an objective flaw. Which doesn't hurt the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:19 PM
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sounds more czech than chinese tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:49 PM
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Good for you, you're one of the rare ones Again the literal aspect isn't relevant, because women who say things like "I don't need men, I'm happy single" are often in situationships where they enjoy company and sex from men. Let's also not get into the reality that a lot of women are actively trying to turn situationships into something more. The entire undertone of the "women are [increasingly] happy single" is that men are unnecessary or inadequate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:27 PM
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Bc even if being in a situationship is "technically single", it's disingenuous to say you're "happily single" when you're still getting basically most if not all of the physical or emotional benefits of at least a casual relationship Also, a lot of this "women are happy single" is said, again disingenuously, in the context of women not needing men or criticizing men for falling short
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:21 PM
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I don't know how old u are but you mention from time to time your daughters. Do you have the same mentality and approach to women's issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:19 PM
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If they say they did everything and are still getting subpar results, why is it so offensive or out-of-this-world sounding to you that maybe some other issues are at play? Maybe things that are out of the person's control, things that might be unfair, unjust? I'm not saying they're always right. U just seem reflexively averse to entertaining any of these complaints. Sure, it's possible they fell short somewhere or missed something, but y do u just automatically assume it's mainly this, rather th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:02 PM
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all i'm going to say is it's certainly disingenuous if women in these situations can type/say with a straight face that they are happy single reality is very very few women are actually not somewhat involved with some guy, at least a lot fewer than the amount of "happy single" women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:57 PM
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Honest question we've had some decent back and forth so hopefully you can answer this truthfully You mentioned the importance of specifically outlining problems first in order to arrive at solutions re: issues men face But every single comment you have here has been downplaying, dismissing or explaining away men who complain about anything Do you actually believe men's issues exist? If you do, you certainly don't think any of them are worth talking about, either the ones people pose as problems …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:45 PM
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tbh even lizard people sounds more convincing and legit than this type of thing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:00 PM
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Those YT vids (ASMR? I don't know) where they say if you listen to them then over time your jawline gets sharper face slimmer or nose gets smaller and the comments are filled with people who are so happy with the results. is this a higher level of human stupidity I'm too not-quite-as-stupid to get?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:58 PM
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complaining = admitting to having problems in dating = inference to being low value whether it's correct or incorrect is irrelevant to them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:51 PM
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this should be no shit common sense and it's depressing those commonly held beliefs came to be in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:50 PM
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bonus brutal pill if you're short and ugly women find you repulsive if you're short and ugly and dare to speak up about how short and ugly men have it hard, you become even more repulsive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:46 PM
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Either. I don't think men here on men in general are in a position to be that picky to begin with as shown through their actions. I don't think any man here is ACTUALLY or potentially turning down any woman for any of these reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:04 PM
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Bc you're willing to believe men are telling the truth here when it's convenient for you - still waiting on those citations of these uber-hypergamous men btw- but not the actual real comments of men outlining their down-to-earth dating experiences if you've spent any real time in the daily chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:53 PM
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Sure, OLD is a shitshow, but women have a much higher initial advantage with dating so you'd expect more men on OLD due to lack of success or options IRL. If the woman is on OLD even moreso there's something wrong. Like comparing the woman/femcel who has trouble getting sex or affection versus the male incel. Due to supp/demand a woman will always have significantly more options than her male counterpart. There must be something very wrong with the femcel.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:34 PM
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Based on nothing except for your personal dislike of the men here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:38 PM
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Show me where men are demanding top-tier women or nothing, even as a joke Also so you are confident they are lying or LARPing about their dating entries in the main chat and also confident they are not lying in these mythical comments about wanting only 10s. Well you wouldn't be the first to stitch together narratives in your head just b/c it's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:37 PM
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I just don't see it The idea that ppd dudes have these sky high standards comparable to the most hypergamous of women seems to be such a popular strawman The men here talk a tough talk when it comes to nitpicking women's flaws bc it's a gender pill-based debate sub and people air out grievances In reality when you listen to them talk about their dating lives it's clear they go out of their way to value the women they have a chance with, even if only b/c the chances don't come easy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:15 PM
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I would assume women on OLD are weirder or worse b/c if you're a woman you shouldn't have to turn to OLD so if they do it says something about them Even moreso women who are on OLD long-term and still have yet to find someone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:11 PM
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LOL women alwyas say they're ok with being single Where are the single women? They always got some thing going on, situationship, whatever arrangement
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:10 PM
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Can you honestly say men in this sub here would turn a woman down for literally anything on that list if everything else was fine? Except maybe "dressing sloppy"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:08 PM
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I mean its clear that we're assuming you yourself think he's average or below average physically as per your preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:59 PM
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agree i'd say that's the case w ugly ppl as well. you can't blame them for being bitter or trying to compesnate b/c of how bad or invisible they are treated. Probably by other men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:36 PM
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One of the worst things about the heightpill is that tall (6 foot plus) with a muscular or broad manly frame is ideal and looks great but if you're 5'6 or below you can't even try to achieve that type of body bc then you'd just look comical. You can get it with hard work but it's not even going to look good. I don't just blame women although calling them try-hards isn't fair like no shit they've felt inadequate their entire lives. But it does look weird. I'm not saying staying skinny or just lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:33 PM
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mfer u makin me look lik a liar
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:16 AM
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How can people read wholesome comments like this and still come away with 'all men on ppd just mad bc they want top 5% of women" i see many comments like this in the gen chat daily
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:05 AM
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american werewolves in paris real talk i thought people in france are skinny. that's what my friends said when they visited but this was several yrs ago
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:03 AM
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i mean unfortunately the world is a lot scarier now at least for people in the west so it's no longer the case but like traditionally you wouldn't really be afraid of someone watching violence and then over time committing violence in public, but things like sexual abuse, teen pregnancy, sti's etc were/are a much more probable and real threat to stunting young people's lives or development. Sex is just a real universal thing everyone has to learn about and deal with so how we're exposed to it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:11 AM
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poor robots
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:54 AM
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western countries have always had that puritanical outlook toward sex violence even in movies for kids, any nudity at all it's no one under 17 gets in prob b/c how someone grows up perceiving and learning about sex matters so we try to control or filter it. With the internet it's basically impossible now to but anyway violence is so abstract and it's depicted as often cartoony or an afterthought in movies, it's more like how it's framed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:51 AM
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are you 19-21 bmi
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:48 AM
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what is robot ripping
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:48 AM
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just steering the convo somewhere since this is the daily chat? this is ppd, someone's blaming someone for something lol obviously the cheating guys are going to blamed first off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:34 PM
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so do u blame the guys for cheating or the girls for being okay with chasing and sharing chad
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:22 PM
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no doubt chad is spending time on ppd putting incels in their place LOLOLOL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:45 PM
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Whatever helps you sleep at night tough guy~
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:43 PM
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Heh You're just like me. You just tell yourself you're better so you can deal with life. Uncomfortable truths son.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:38 PM
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i'm convinced you're a femcel larping as a dude, which is expected, plenty of dishonest degenerates here 'men getting outright furious' lmao most men get zero attention and would appreciate even a scrap of it from any woman not wasting any more time on what is probably troll larp or S-tier stupidity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:25 PM
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Kaitlyn Fung is from Old Tappan. My initial reaction was 'is this a place that i'm too poor to have even heard of?' lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:14 PM
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Commentator: "She was doing this out of need" Me: Can this shit get any more stupid. Commentator again: "I think the real shame is that she really undervalued the items when she sold them" Me: Yes, yes it can.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:03 PM
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i used to think things like this or like the gf experience with no sex was stupid but it's increasingly sounding appealing like tricking your brain and giving it the dopamine or serotonin or whatever of being in a relationship with someone who flirts loves and cares about u w/o absolutely any of the stress baggage mundane routine issues responsibilities obligations that you need to deal with constantly in an LTR no fights, no misunderstanding, no passive aggression, grudges, simmering resentment…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:41 AM
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Why does this strawman keep coming up From bitter shitty women I understand but from men too Where is the evidence men demand harems of stacies? Certainly not here. It's a bunch of autistic men relating their routine dating struggles with whatever women give them a chance. If anything men are just complaining b/c they are struggling to get women on their level bc of hypergamy or female entitlement and so many options you can disagree with it but the original premise is completely different from …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:35 AM
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I don't believe a 1/10 man deserves nobody. But he's gonna get nobody. Life's just not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:32 AM
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Yup, that's why he should also be broke. Broke and ugly pickup artist. I'd be like teach me bro lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:25 AM
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No..... I'm saying women say they can always tell when a guy is an asshole or a misogynist and the reality is they can't. Maybe sometimes. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:52 AM
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Splitting hairs...if the guy is treating you like shit in a relationship the chance that he harbors misogynistic views is pretty high. It's not hard for men to just mask and pretend to be a decent guy at first. Even say all the right mainstream things to sound progressive. If he slips and kind of gives off an arrogant traditional vibe some women might find themselves even responding to it involuntarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:50 AM
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The sheer amount of women who try to justify their bad dating decisions by expressing how they didn't know he was such an asshole until it's too late say otherwise. I guarantee you there would not be nearly as many relationship issues if half of these manipulative misogynistic men actually "reeked of misogyny".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:37 AM
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News just in men given the chance would also opt for the hottest people. In other news, men are usually not given the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:24 AM
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that's why if i'm going to learn from a guy who's very successful with women he has to be one ugly mfer b/c if he's making it happen you know his methods are legit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:21 PM
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what kind of truerateme logic allows you to arrive at 6/10s or above being 7% of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:50 PM
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what if it's b/c he realized how much personality matters more inferring your personality was terrible? although that might not bother that many of you here i'm guessing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:20 PM
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not triggering at all compared to some of the other spergy edgelord fare, have you been here long?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:43 PM
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rp value looks, it's just not all they value that's what lifting, grooming or style is for oh and peacocking. cringe af, but undeniable part of RP BP in contrast is only looks matter, and a big % of BP also thinks there is little you can do about it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:38 PM
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The issues on PPD have real-life personal social, financial, legal, and emotional consequences for those looking to date or get married. The consequences go beyond marital status and venture into politics, gender rights, and such. You seem to have reduced PPD to the most incelly of posts. What does people having kids or no kids have any bearing on the depressed misanthropes on these subs? Voluntary human extinction? They're just venting or fantasizing about something abstract 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:01 PM
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*raises hand at overweight x)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:48 PM
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the amount of time and hostility they put into their comments in addition to obvi the content means they think their stances are very important; imo much more important than reality the definition of arrogance some things don't need philosophies at least with things like dating or politics it makes more sense
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:43 PM
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depressed heavily medicated (or undermedicated) people, so not that surprising i'm getting downvotes as i'm sure there is overlap from those places and this one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:36 PM
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TIL pointing out arrogance means you're exhibiting arrogance
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:19 PM
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damn, and that book is over 20 years old, many ppd mfers weren't even born when that shit was published
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:04 PM
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you don't need a philosophy is what i'm saying, have kids or don't. Why are people creating entire ideologies over this it's a perfect example of internet culture dumbassery; you know antinatalism is just full of weirdos you cannot take anything they say seriously. Like yea you don't want kids or you ahte kids or you think the world doesn't need more ppl, cool. Why are you going all in like it's your life purpose now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:43 AM
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it amazes me there are people invested enough to join and post regularly in subs like natalism or antinatalism. have kids if you want, or don't, why do you care if other people have kids or not. who gives a fuck prime arrogance and delusion to think either choice warrants your trash not even worth 0.02 judgment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:37 AM
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axe body spray fine fragrance collection
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:02 AM
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Because if you're an average looking guy you have hope in social proof or music or sports. If you're goodlooking you'll get even better results, but that has always been the case. This halo works to varying degrees you don't need to be fucking worldwide famous eg simply known around say a college campus will also do. It even works if you're simply a guy a lot of people like. It's not Beatles-level of groupies or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:58 AM
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No shit, that's why it's called fame and status halo. The whole point is it makes ordinary men who would otherwise struggle with women get a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:48 AM
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Not zero relevance. Did you miss my citation of the Beatles? When I say skinny and geeky the face is included. Again you can't find me a famous male musician without hot female fans unless he's like extremely old or niche. The more goodlooking musicians will have a higher percentage of hot female fans - and even in the case of the Beatles this is obviously not true, but the point is being famous and a musician is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:44 AM
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Plenty of skinny goofy looking musicians and band members, local or famous, with many attractive groupies. The highest profile one being the Beatles. Not ugly but without their fame they're just average. If it works for pro athletes, it works for musicians. In fact you can't find me a famous young (but not necessarily) male musician without attractive fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:32 AM
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I think I may have misread your post, my bad. Your post isn't necessarily proof of anything since it's not like she left you for him and you guys had a relationship that started with a bonding over racing or cars. In any case looks obviously matter but it's also clear hobbies and groups are a great way to increase your chances in dating. If you're uglier it's gonna be harder, but if she's into the same shit you are your chances increase. Looks matter, hobbies matter, one doesn't necessarily nega…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:24 PM
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So you think hobbies are useless for dating b/c you were into a hobby popular among hillbillies and you aren't looking for hillbilly women into that same hobby i too think hobbies are useless b/c i like dungeons n dragons and didn't get my stacy in all those years obviously hobbies matter bc you might have gotten the girl into baseball if you were like that one baseball fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:52 PM
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Money has everything to do with status if having money means greater ability to provide the lifestyle a woman wants in a certain social circle or context. Druggies and women chasing the next high aren't going to have rich men on their radar b/c 1) no rich man is going to wife them up in the first place and 2) the drug dealer is the highest status guy in their druggie circles. You're delusional if you think women given a real choice are going to sack up with a small-time drug dealer over a litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:50 AM
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Money is an indirect predictor of status and it just depends on the woman, her values, social circles, situation etc how much it matters. Not that it matters. If she's with you bc you're a famous guitarist or a tall square jawed chad it's "real attraction" but it's also shallow and if she's only with you for that she's going to have constant wandering eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:15 AM
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First of all to echo everyone else fuck this guy. But when the girl was interviewed after it was clear she turned it into some gender-based feminist thing where women are the victims of shitty men when contextually in customer service there are shitty customers of both sexes and it affects workers of both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:26 AM
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It's hard to not at least fear the worst if you've ever observed or been around people. You don't have to have been esp abused or hurt. You just see how people treat each other and how other people are in relationships. Very few people seem genuinely happy, they're either faking it or just going through the motions. This is assuming they have anything solid in the first place in terms of not being in situationship purgatory and such
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:16 AM
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I have noticed this. You bring up something men are lacking or need in this society and women say "How about YOU try supporting other men? It's not women's responsibility". But with women's issues it's all about men having an obligation to do their part, spread the word, "be an ally" and hold other men accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:12 AM
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Scandinavians are the most overrated group of people in the world in terms of looks. Most blondes look washed out and their facial features are pretty masculine which works for the men but not always. There are also just as many scandinavian men with narrow recessed birdlike features. They also age terribly, if you live in the US in a large white area you'll see they just look like regular white people most of the time. They are tall though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:19 PM
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Using this logic the difference between awkward inappropriate touching and sexual assault is "misinterpretation and/or fear it will grow into something bigger" and based on arbitrary feelings. Punish all of it or none of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:09 AM
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Well yeah but in the OP they're talking about just an average guy approaching. In which case to most young women this would be tantamount to a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:50 PM
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You have to remind everyone that in this day and age women under 30 are going to freeze or freak the fuck out b/c they wouldn't know how to respond if a guy in public approached them. Completely different from millennials or above. The comments reflect this, implying that just approaching is literally invasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:34 PM
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I agree. The reason for pick-me women being stereotyped as failures with men isn't b/c men dislike agreeable women, it's b/c these women go out of their way to be agreeable to compensate for not being the most popular among men to begin with. Maybe b/c of looks, being weird, offputting quirks or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:52 PM
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Maybe just imagine it's her finger stimulating the sensitive pleasure centers in your ass. And imagine her finger is very big and thick. Or a big thick finger of her's that is an extension of who she is, a physical manifestation of her essence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:20 PM
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Many if not most women need clit stimulation to cum versus just penetration. It always confused me when women say penetration feels good but they can't cum from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:14 PM
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Makes sense also since you can just go for another orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:07 PM
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I had/have a friend who is bisexual. The women she has sex with are just average whatever looking but the men have to be tall and square jawed chads. When I brought this up in drunken convo she just said her standards for men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:04 PM
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Can you explain the reason for the last one?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:02 PM
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Not even the women arguing for equal pay for the wnba watch the wnba.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:52 PM
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Re: being "bad" I think a lot of women secretly want or are drawn to men with a cold savage ruthless streak b/c it implies toughness, but not enough to be socially ostracized or jailed - although this doesn't stop a minority of women either. It's just different degrees of toughness or rebelliousness. There was a study or a few that showed women found men less attractive when they smiled. Ofc it's the opposite, men found women more attractive when they smiled. I wouldn't say it's entirely valid a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:44 PM
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my first thought as well
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:39 PM
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Well in this case "bad" is more like "cold" and unfeeling, calculating, mysterious, but she's able to get him to open up and be more in touch with his "sensitive" side.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:37 PM
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Women want the bad boy who will be good only for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:13 PM
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All this Caitlin Clark shit has me actually setting aside time to watch the WNBA. And people say men are just as brutal and mean to each other and come up with the same drama smh inb4 "basketball has always been a physical game, everyone gets treated that way"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:22 PM
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Is that why men in the west are doing worse than women in almost all metrics? Because the patriarchy is working out so well for them? Benefit more how? Now you can just shift blame to "men are just inferior" to suit whatever helps you sleep best at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:26 AM
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wiki: Margot Robbie, born Margaret Roblox
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:24 AM
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I agree sexism is a problem. I don't see how this is related to the topic or OP, sexism being bad was never up for question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:15 AM
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People forget it's all shallow as most criteria are just proxies for status. Men prefer to be desired for their looks over money usually, but if that's primarily what she likes you for it's equally pointless and bad. You don't think a woman who places a premium on looks only when dating aren't checking for other hot men while you're not around? Idc how goodlooking you are, she's gon get bored, it's a matter of time. Edit: I see you basically made the exact same comment below in another thread, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:59 AM
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Nothing makes me more immediately dismissive than when someone throws out "patriarchy" in their comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:53 AM
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Oh ofc "the patriarchy" heh. I've worked around lots of men and lots of women. The difference is clear. Most of us are just trying to get through the day, aint nobody give a fuck about pushing no agenda to keep women divided JFL
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:46 AM
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I work in an environment where my female bosses and supervisors constantly make sweeping negative generalizations and disparaging comments about men in what is supposed to be a very politically correct space where everyone is supposed to watch what they say. Even when they have to be careful they know certain things they can say with zero consequences. Our different experiences don't change what i said about large-scale trends of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:01 AM
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It's literally the exact opposite for anyone exposed to any media, or is the hashtag yesallmen not a thing? You're comparing the sentiments of pockets of terminally online men with that of large-scale mainstream media and narrative trends supported by the majority of both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 01:35 AM
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lol the downvotes tell me they really hate being reminded of that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 12:25 AM
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And there are places like FDS and twox. All the other male equivalent spaces on reddit have been banned. Again, lenience. We are talking about society's perspective as a whole. Not a bunch of shut-in lowlifes. These FB pages are shitholes (people still use fb?) but they exist b/c society looks the other way when women misbehave. Men will be ostracized if they call these women out IRL so they do it behind a keyboard. Women can shit on men freely. Articles are published regularly in mainstream hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:21 PM
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Assume what you want about me In general society is just more lenient toward women But since we're on the topic, the most judgmental trash talk I've heard directed at women is from other women. The default response to this is often to just deflect and redirect the blame to men for instilling internalized misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:05 PM
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That's not a societal problem giving men slack, it's b/c for some reason women get hot and bothered when they see a guy with a baby or puppy. Just like trash men getting female attention, shitty stringent beauty and fashion standards and workplace hostility and drama, it's not primarily men contributing to this. Truly sorry your dad was such a POS tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:29 PM
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That's what the OP is saying if i'm not mistaken. Equal amount of woman losers, but society only actually looks down on and laughs at their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:27 PM
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They say it's been debunked but I still think there's a lot of truth that it's rare to find a truly bisexual man. All the men I know who identify as bisexual seem to actually lean hard toward other men ie actually much more gay even if they will date women b/c it's more socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:01 AM
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Not all women are bi but women in general are much more sexually fluid even if they lean strongly one way. I'm a straight guy but I think goodlooking men are more aesthetic or impressive than goodlooking women, but men don't ignite a visceral response in me. I think the ugliest humans are men and the best looking ones are men also. Seems to be a trend with men for all metric and criteria good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:57 AM
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This is just an above average looking girl "looking better" than two dudes with small heads and no decent bone structure or dimorphism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:31 AM
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The level of down bad in this sub has escalated to levels quicker and higher than I thought possible. Must be the reason why everyone is hating on each other in debate one minute and then hitting on each other the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 05:00 AM
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If you're going to a game to watch her play she's probably already your daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 03:12 AM
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jsanza from PUA fame way back. The way those incel tards bullied and shit on him was criminal in that shithole forum. Before when he was leaner he wasn't even ugly, and he's tall. They had him believing he was a 1/10 subhuman with zero hope. But he's autistic, so that's the death sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:11 AM
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what did she do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:09 AM
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lol i don't even really know what discord is...I just thought discord mods are the worst of reddit mods who want to do even more modding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:08 AM
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It's true there are people who have it worse but to suggest more than 400-500 euro per month is a humblebrag on an american forum with users who mostly have unlimited internet access is just weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:05 AM
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IQ has an inverse correlation with fertility Are you saying dumb people are more likely to be attractive? I thought it was the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:28 PM
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What RPer says that? Do you also think women who want tall rich men are unaware there are short poor women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:14 AM
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For sure, the redpill sells itself and men come to the rp voluntarily. Every man was once a simp who pedestalized sugar and spice and everything nice bc that's what they teach us from birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:11 AM
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Did they have to settle greatly for these girlfriends or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:46 PM
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It is unrealistic. What's your point? You were identifying a disconnect or hypocrisy and there isn't one. Nobody is saying women wanting tall men is wrong or stupid. People here just make up targets b/c they have problems. Edit: This is actually what I see. Is men getting upset at being gaslit (by the women here or IRL) about women wanting tall men when they talk about their dating problems. For example, "I went out with a 5'4" short king for 3 years, he meant the world to me, it must be your pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:15 PM
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Aint nobody said women being attracted to tall men is unreasonable. It's about degree and entitlement, for example, a 5'1" girl who won't accept any guy under 6 feet. It's always the super short women who have the biggest complexes and demands re: height. Kinda like fat guys who hate fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:59 PM
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Short-sleeves or rolled up sleeves show arms. Women love nice arms and muscles. They just don't want a roidhead. Doesn't matter what they say. Just observe their attention and stares. Obviously if you have the face of an ogre or bridge troll your returns will be limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:00 PM
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It's what happens when progressives label certain groups as "oppressors" and "oppressed". It's the case with men vs women, and also whites vs some minorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:22 PM
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I mean you can lie about anything. She doesn't have to be married to anyone to say she's married to Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:04 PM
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I would agree there. Peterson seems to be an exception. The criticism from the left reminds me of how the words incel and neckbeard have basically lost their meaning and now it's just an insult thrown at any guy they don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:04 PM
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It means people naturally want to be accepted and loved, and if you don't give it to them (in this case the current sociopolitical trend of guilting and condemning boys and men as inherently problematic), they'll go where they can find it, even if it's offered up by conniving garbage people looking to make a buck and say what they want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:56 PM
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The problem is aside from general blue-pilled advice there is absolutely nothing else really offered to boys and young impressionable men besides shitty pseudo-RP grifters. Men are dissatisfied or realize what they've been taught all their lives doesn't work, so they look for something else. And there isn't anything in between, it's blue-pill just world fallacy "just be nice" "respect women" "be yourself" simpdom or incel rhetoric. If boys don't find love and acceptance in the mainstream, they'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:44 PM
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In my experience it's good social skills and a comfortable vibe. Like someone who's outgoing and commands the social setting with ease in places where hooking up is expected like bars and nightlife. Ofc there's a looks threshold to cross but it's nowhere near like the top 20% Chad level everyone talks about here. But as we said other things like hinting at a solid career or job or financial means don't hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:46 AM
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That's what I mean. Even if a woman is primarily looking for ONS, her brain will always be considering the long-term route as a possibility. The sex can serve as ofc just a ONS or something that holds the guy over for something more, maybe like ONS to casual situationship to relationship etc. and so on. That's why many women would be more likely to sleep with him if he says he has a good or prestigious job.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:38 AM
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Wait no you right lmao. That's my bad. But my overall point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:52 AM
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If the man signals he's high value beyond just looks, a lot of women will still go for the ONS in hopes of it turning into something longer term.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:13 AM
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LOL ikr "same league". Riley is worth 40 million. Musk is worth 240 BILLION. He could support all 8 billion people in the world right now like royalty til the end of their lives. Compared to this, 40 million is basically worse than flat broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:33 PM
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The Richest Guy Unless I make myself care more I'm never going to know the exact truth but I'm going to assume by default his money has a lot to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:14 PM
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Because not everyone is a golddigger?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:12 PM
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Because it's all relative and some people always want more. 20 million is much closer to being broke or homeless than anything remotely close to Elon $$. And forget the money for a sec, "richest (or among" man in the world" is one of the highest status symbols you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:09 PM
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Do you think ANY man that isn't wealthy would stand a chance with a pretty 22 year old girl in this scenario? And yet there are still people in this sub who insist money won't get men anywhere, even in a gold-digging scenario when it's obvious golddiggers exist already in droves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 09:00 PM
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Does she come from 'richest man in the world' money? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:59 PM
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There's some women that just have that prey vibe about them that attracts predators. This has always been a topic that fascinates me. It's not just things like sexual assault, but victims of other things like car accidents are also many times more likely to be involved in more accidents. My knee-jerk reaction is to assume there's something about them that is the problem eg stopping suddenly b/c they are a bad driver, so a rear-end will technically not be their fault buttt In any case I'm sure it…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:06 PM
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No you're just saying you're willing to be the worst of women just b/c the worst of men do it so it's ok. Literally the logic you're using.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:21 AM
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"The worst men." Not sure if you got that. This shouldn't be approached like a game like you're trying to get revenge on an entire gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:17 AM
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You only recently learned this b/c advocating for male issues is rare to nonexistent among feminists no matter what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 08:41 PM
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Redpillers believe there is way more you can do besides looks to succeed with women, blackpill is just looks or nothing, with many traits being uncontrollable. But when you get down to it, all the gender spheres it's just all a bunch of mentally ill assholes and bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:50 PM
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It's the other way around. FDS and femcels/pinkpill are a reactive result to TRP or blackpill. They even adopted slight variations of incel lingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:39 PM
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When I say competing I don't mean competing in physical strength. Nor am I talking about career necessarily, although high value men tend to run in higher class circles and most people date within their class. Most women are propositioned and hit on constantly, but rarely from men they actually want or feel attracted to. The goal should be then to raise the quality of men who proposition. Dressing slutty would attract more men but would only make any man of value take her less seriously as a lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:21 AM
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The island already exists and it's called PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:16 AM
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Why wouldn't women need to compete or improve themselves? Especially if they want the top men and the top men are only going to want to commit to the top women? Even if snagging a top guy isn't realistic the more competitive a woman makes herself the higher the caliber of guy who will be willing to commit. The fact that FDS thinks women don't need to improve and just need to vet for their HVM speaks to the delusion and entitlement everyone talks about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:03 AM
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The entire RP after you are done with the truth or revelations is about continuous self improvement and self accountability, so this is just yet again lack of understanding of the pills. Versus FDS and pinkpill spaces, with zero accountability and proactivity, unless it's proactivity to point fingers. Women mistake men for RPers just b/c they disagree with them in these gender debates. In reality, a lot of these men also dislike RP prescriptions because it's not nihilistic or blackpill enough; t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:46 AM
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There is no body positivity for fat men. Inb4 "tell men to lift up fat men, it's not women's responsibility"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:13 PM
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I do. It's not going to mean nearly as much as compliments from women though, and there will always be thirsty men complimenting women or men just doing it for sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:07 PM
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Proof you don't need a good lower third. What is that shitty triangle shape and chin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:01 PM
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It's not a matter of what should happen, many men aren't consciously thinking in terms of right or wrong. They just want to get their dick wet. Especially young impressionable men. They will try to be sociopathic dickheads because they see that is what works. Whether they are successful is a diff story. Ideally once people mature they'll change maybe, but that's the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:33 PM
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Men simply watch what sexually successful men do and copy it. If it works, men will do it. Back in the day, getting a good job and being a nice guy and provider was enough. The landscape has changed now, for better or worse, and men are adapting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:25 PM
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Nothing you can do except try to max out your other stats and do your best to improve social skills. Life isn't fair, autistic men just have to accept they were born with a huge disadvantage. One thing autistic men can and should take comfort in is their failure or lack of success with women is due to their autism, and not anything else 99% of the time like their looks or height.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:40 PM
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You know that meme exists for a reason. Women get tons of compliments a day and they still aren't satisfied. Men meanwhile, are holding on to that compliment they got 8 months ago and can live on it for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:12 PM
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Like the millionaire actresses who still talk about being oppressed and the mainstream media dickrides her for being woke.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:10 PM
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I dunno, studies show lesbian couples have the least regular sex. Rebuttals have gone something like "We may have less sex but the sex is high quality". Doesn't make sense though. Ofc you enjoy quality sex but if you had a high drive you would also want and do it often.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:22 AM
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Comment threads like this kinda prove women and men do not have equal sex drives or want sex the same way to the same degree. Also, lesbian bed death is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:29 AM
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God-tier fWHR, mogs most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:24 AM
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Then we need to stop telling men to level up their job or personality if they're struggling with women and tell them to work on their dick-giving abilities and the dick-giving reputation that precedes him. Drugs or crime is a-ok too. No more 'be less toxic, respect and listen to her, take care of shit and come through when she needs it."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:45 PM
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I agree with the success and ambition being attractive to women. Tangentially my main beef is really how hypocritical people are in challenging and speaking out against the norms and standards while clearly still supporting them. And it's not subtle. Not just with women or gender wars. Liberal cities are full of white people yelling BLM from their white social circles, communities and neighborhoods; they do not know shit or give a shit about black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:09 PM
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I live in a very liberal city and most people I know still very much hold on to some traditional aspects of gender roles. Not everyone is a woke purple haired tatted up progressive even if they say all the right things on social media and repost BLM and LGBT stuff - actually the majority are not. It's clear most women still have the expectation for the man to make more than them, take the initiative, be tall, and so on. It's clear women still love masculine traits in men and men still love femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:51 PM
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Even if most men were okay with this, there is rampant and somewhat justified paranoia that a woman withholding sex isn't actually attracted to them and just using them as a safe provider or beta option. That's where the conversation needs to be steering. The other day I was watching a black woman comedian just handing out redpills telling men if they had good credit, all their shit together, good morals, a healthy community of family and friends and a solid life plan and all that, chances are h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:38 PM
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75 million users out of 8 billion people is still like 1 in 100. Maybe I just really dislike redditors but that number is still too high for comfort lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:50 PM
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Nerds and super woke are different groups but share similar traits with consequences: Chronically online, neurotic or mental issues, socially garbage. I wouldn't trust the opinions of either. Might have been different in the past, the chronically online factor is bad enough on its own and exacerbates the remaining two.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:28 PM
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Terminally online armchair radfems and femcels like to gas up the 4B like it's some burgeoning trend about to come up. It ain't. I'm always thankful Reddit is nothing like real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:24 PM
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https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/depression/in-depth/ssris/art-20044825
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:43 PM
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be thankful they let you have internet access in the psych ward since it's a holiday
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:39 PM
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Nonsensical femcel rant. Must be taking the long weekend off meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:34 PM
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Google "pig woman experiment".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:05 PM
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“Gen Z and women — and women’s experience in particular — is our top priority,” said Match Group chief executive Bernard Kim, responding to a question about Tinder during the company’s latest earnings call. “They are literally the most critical demographic for all dating apps.” Reminds me of those nights at clubs or bars where women get in free. You need the women there b/c it brings in the armies of stupid men thinking they have a chance despite the ratio being horrendous. You don't even need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:02 PM
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I don't know, it's just something my chemistry prof told us on the first day of class lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:38 PM
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Men realized the apps were bullshit years ago but somehow the ppl on the apps are still overwhelmingly men. Men need to learn faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:35 PM
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The universe is made up of atoms, and atoms are over 99% empty space with the protons, neutrons, electrons making up the rest. So the universe is over 99% empty space.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:31 PM
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Aside from what looks like significant makeup and filters, you can always tell when someone is older even if they have great skin. This is useful esp when assessing asians. Even older (middle-aged) people who look "young" have faces that are more deflated b/c the baby fat is gone and there's been fat loss and bone resorption. It's like a recessed look that isn't necessarily bad it just depends on the person. You can tell every once in a while there's an article that's like "45 year old woman loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:13 PM
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he lowkey looks kinda human and aesthetic here ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:11 PM
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Men see what taken women are like with other men, and they're like fuck that I dun wanna be a bf/hubby. The other dudes don't even have to be attractive, she can just be bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:09 PM
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A lot of self-identified RPers are more blackpill than anything else. So much of original RP, as I understand it anyway, revolves around literally all the things a man can do aside from raw looks to ignite attraction. The RP men of today come from an underlying primary premise of if you don't have the looks you might as well not bother. There is also again a focus on just how bad women are vs anything productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:35 PM
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Maybe the FDS sites or subs I took in were overrun by the most polarized or worst of people then, b/c I definitely saw a lot of "richest Chad or nothing" sentiments vs just a good guy who has all his shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:10 PM
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I mean to be fair core FDS doesn't really leave much else to do aside from just sit there, pretend to be higher value than you actually are, and look down on men. What did they expect? FDS and TRP circles are just full of sad mentally ill people. As a guy partial to RP though I want to believe these RP grifters aren't actually RP, they are just people trying to con sad bitter men to make money. A lot of these YT channels are all about being pro-men this and that, but literally all they do is pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 09:23 AM
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Plus you’re a man. Not to sound dismissive, but it’s much more common for men to know definitively that they’re gay or straight from an early age. Many lesbians only realise it when they’re 40-60 because female sexuality isn’t as instantaneous or spontaneous. That's probably the most definitive and helpful answer I've gotten so far tbh. It's much more preferable to "duh it happens all the time" which is just people talking past each other with their own experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:01 AM
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At the age of 5 or 6 the difference in taboo is moot, as in I literally thought being attracted to girls was wrong and abnormal. I'm just going to assume that some of us just have naturally stronger orientations or are more polarized in the spectrum. I have gay friends who still think it's possible with the right socialization that I could turn gay or become curious also and it's annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:53 AM
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My point is I realized I felt things when it was still very much taboo to feel them. I'm not trying to equate being straight with being gay, I'm just saying, I knew exactly what it was despite being told I shouldn't be attracted to girls. I didn't even know sex was necessary to happen to have babies until years later around 9 or 10. I thought it was optional because naturally it was such an "icky" thing not everyone would want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:17 AM
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As usual, things like this sound nice to hear but oversimplify or disregard what is actually the discussion. Nobody is for putting people down as a general rule sans specific context, but you know the overall issue here is men thinking women have become very entitled and have overinflated their own self-worth due to gynocentric society and simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:11 AM
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I mean, have you spent any amount of time in the real world? Then you wouldn't need to ask this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:07 AM
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Yeah I get that. I just remember personally feeling absolutely attracted to the opposite sex even during a time when I was deathly afraid of getting mocked or ridiculed for it. I found out that being gay was used to make fun of boys/men later on, and I remember feeling confused b/c I was still seeing kids/boys getting made fun for liking girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:54 AM
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I honestly don't know how people can't realize they are gay until later in life. I knew I was straight when I was 5. And this was obviously during/at the beginning of a time where everyone is mercilessly teased for having crushes or literally any attraction to the opp sex. And yeah ofc like everyone else I downplayed it or tried to hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:28 AM
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If you commit to a tree the tree won't take half your money, your kids, and make your life a living hell by shitting on your soul with hourly microaggressions, leaving you a husk of the man you ever were before. Does this describe the worst type of woman? Yes. Similar to how saying you'll take the chances with the bear b/c the man might rape you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:31 PM
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bc pretty boy and chad aren't that different, if at all. It's young goodlookin vs older/mature goodlookin and he has both the youthful appearance and bone structure
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:22 PM
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....The vast majority of pretty boys, especially the popular ones who get the most attention, are clearly identifiable as male, bc again they are just young looking chads. Any google search or sift through instagram will reveal this. The ones who are so androgynous it's hard to tell are absolutely a niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:16 PM
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All the people who separate pretty boys from chads in these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:13 PM
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All the most popular kpop dudes, eboys and pretty boys have the chiseled face and athletic body. It's simply the difference of young good looking guy vs old(er) goodlooking guy. The older ones are more likely to be bigger and have beards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:09 PM
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Sure, but let's not pretend it's that different from the conventional chad. Boybands or e-boy types are just that and have always been popular among younger women, it's not some revolutionary alternative or progressive preference that's somehow "anti male gaze".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:04 PM
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When women say they like 'pretty boys' it means they like young looking chads. Good skin and hair, chiseled face. That's literally it. The only diff is maybe they have a slighter but still athletic build. Actual feminine men, men with soft bodies, narrow shoulder wide hip body ratio, low T, round faces with no definition, are invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:50 PM
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Would you blame them if all short men had an inferiority complex? They are treated as an afterthought or invisible by women and even by men in terms of being taken seriously or respected. I wouldn't blame ugly people for having inferiority complexes either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:37 PM
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It's 100% something fucked up about his personality or vibes. Old or not, "male wall" or not, there isn't a place in this world someone who looks like him wouldn't have women potentially interested if he was remotely normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:34 PM
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Probably just a sugar arrangement. Not entirely rare and men aren't as delusional about it as one might think nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:51 PM
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They dress for themselves, ok. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:31 AM
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I agree, but the amount of women this applies to is very small. In this sense I don't see the point of the empathy when there are so many more men with her SMV despite being better looking (and also in shape).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:37 PM
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If the bear is harmless what's the point of the question or mental exercise?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:07 PM
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I never said to pretend to be religious. I'm saying there will be people there who will date you even if you aren't as long as you're a good person. Although this is true with many churches in general, going to church just to meet women or date is practically a meme in immigrant communities where church serves as a primary social pipeline for those who haven't had the time or ability to establish local networks and circles. Hitting the gym is an obvious requirement...you can hit the gym and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:48 PM
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Chris Rock once said a man is only as faithful as his options. Even though objectively there may not be a correlation between looks and good or bad personality, a fallible human with more options experiences more temptation, and has less reason to commit or be loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:27 AM
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People are seriously underestimating what a good place church is to meet women or people for relationships. Even if you aren't religious there are enough "liberal" or "open-minded" ones where as long as you are a decent person and esp if you cherish traditional values it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:20 AM
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