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Yes. But honestly overall those are her preferences, it's more just that she's denying she has them that's somewhat irksome. I don't like it but it's not a priority of mine to change her mind, there's a lot of fucked up racist shit in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 09:15 PM
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In Asia. Even then, modern white people in the west have a standard that actually differs from the ironically still eurocentric standards in Asia eg a more mature look, squarer jaws, tan skin on men, maybe even smaller eyes. I also know from personal experience I had natural preferences that got slowly more and more eurocentric, I began to check for white women a lot more, as I grew up and watched more american media. I did not start out that way and preferred darker skin and different facial fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:40 PM
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Which makes it racist. Eurocentric beauty isn't inherently or objectively superior. No offense asians can be extremely racist both in how they view themselves as above others and as how they (not all) view whites as above others or them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:35 PM
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It's something primal it doesn't have to make sense in the modern world. That's why anxiety exists. Our brains still live in a world where a saber-toothed tiger could attack us and we react accordingly even though it's not a tiger and our lives aren't in danger, it's a work deadline. It's why many women like broad shoulders or nice arms even though physical strength is no longer necessary for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:33 PM
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Realest comment of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:24 PM
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u/gloomett3 Kai Cenat is an example of someone who would not be euro-adjacent, But I know there's nobody in your folder like him b/c he's not the type you go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:16 PM
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The guy was an idiot, but the woman overreacted to him being an idiot by using it as a springboard to make another circle-jerk misandric post on twox. I can just imagine her steaming about it all day like she couldn't wait to go home and tell the hivemind. Or maybe she didn't even wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:11 PM
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It's again b/c there's this idea that at least hookups involve real desire and relationships potentially may not b/c of prevailing concepts like AFBB. They have a point honestly - to an extent, but even if you disagree you can argue that instead of assuming they just want to sleep around as the nuance there is pretty glaring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:02 PM
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It's hard to see where this was coming from originally. Are the men who complain about being lonely here also the ones with the big fuckboi aspirations? I don't doubt they exist but overall I'd say many if not most of these men would not mind or even prefer a single devoted partner. Lot of these men are hopeless romantics turned bitter. Doesn't mean they don't have some growing up to do, but it's not this idea that they are lonely so they want to pump-and-dump indiscriminately either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:58 PM
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Most men (at least here) would rather be desired sexually and physically as an object than used as an asexual wallet for years or until death do us part. Genuine visceral desire is the indispensable backbone of any relationship, ONS, casual, or long-term; men who are starved of female affection focus on this b/c they've never (or perceive) been actually desired. ONS and hookups promise real desire, LTR and marriages do not. But you can def have it both ways, meaning real desire, real fulfilling …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:54 PM
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I'd agree, except most of these men aren't getting hookups either and just want to be desired; they have the view that a lot of long-term boyfriends and husbands are not desired. If you're talking about the fuckboi who gets jaded over the years then yeah you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:48 PM
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He looks european adjacent af. He looks even more white-adjacent than your typical good looking light-skin women fawn over, much less the typical black guy, handsome or not. It's not surprising b/c your barometer is set to that type you have no idea how white-looking he is. I'm going to guess that you even went out of your way to show the least white-adjacent person you have in your folder and chose this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:23 PM
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that's b/c they're not really blue pill, to them it just means they are out to argue and have beef with redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:19 PM
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White or white adjacent. If they're non-white they probably conform to a very conventional aesthetic popular among white boys or there are other things like facial features or structure more similar to white people or in line with european ideals. If I'm wrong you're more than welcome to prove it with a few examples, either way makes no diff to me. Edit: Also this is bordering on race-talk anyway and I keep forgetting we can't talk about race here even if it's something you can't ignore if you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:12 PM
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Tbf I also just stop responding too. I'd like to think if they have a legitimate point, I'll acknowledge it even though I won't entirely concede or agree and I've done so many times in the past. But if it's someone who's obviously too far gone, too bullheaded or drowning in their delusion and inability to follow logic, someone who will clearly continue responding in bad faith, I just stop. There's no referee doling out official calls of winner or loser and most people aren't arguing to learn or …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:02 PM
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I don't mean this as a jab at all but you keep saying you're afraid to show __________ for fear of judgment from ppl but just like your folder of white tiktok boys, it's not like anyone is going to be surprised by whatever you post. You fit that archetype, terminally online femcel-adjacent (self admitted) POC or minority woman obsessed with conventionally attractive white (or aesthetically white adjacent) dudes. Probably with a lot of history in blackpill or pinkpill spaces. There are many of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 06:49 PM
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The things that connect all PPD people together are ptsd/trauma and social maladjustment. Otherwise SMV, marital status, career, background are all over the map.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 06:43 PM
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He said "You could have fooled me" because he's saying PPD is more okay with man-hating rhetoric (from femcels) than the opposite. He's saying "You could have fooled me" because he's saying PPD is more okay with femcels ranting about men here than the opposite. That's what he meant. Maybe you misunderstood his point but I felt it was fairly clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:43 PM
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You said incels are not welcome here. He said well it seems like PPD is okay with femcels. You said well, the majority of women here aren't incels. I connected the dots. If you didn't imply that, you can perhaps see how I assumed you thought that. If not, well, onto another thread b/c I'm done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:38 PM
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Sometimes you're insecure b/c you're actually ugly. Sometimes it's BDD. Many other examples but that's the simplest one that came to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:36 PM
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What the heck is even going on lol. I never said you were okay with femcels. THE GUY YOU RESPONDED TO, rice president, said it seems like this sub is okay with femcels. And you said, "well, the majority of the women aren't femcels." To which I said, from this you're implying most of the men here are incels, which they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:32 PM
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.....I never said you said you were ok with femcels? I said a guy responded saying "it seems like you are ok with femcels" and you responded with "the majority of women here aren't femcels" implying the majority of men here are incels. Seriously just scroll up, wtf. Maybe the clarification is the guy said "It seems like this sub, PPD, is ok with femcels" as he perceives hate toward men here is more tolerated vs hate toward women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:31 PM
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Did you not imply it? You say incels are not welcome, guy responds saying you seem to be ok with femcels, you say well femcels aren't the majority of women here. Just connecting the dots.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:23 PM
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Nor are the men (incels)? Most of the men I see complaining about women or subscribing to blackpill stuff aren't virgins, nevertheless they are still dissatisfied with the current state of things, maybe not as successful in dating as they'd like to be. Not saying I agree or disagree with them, but there's this tendency to just call whatever guy you disagree with an incel, here, and everywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:20 PM
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All I'm saying is, this sub by nature is a space to discuss sexual strategy and "debate" between men and women, implying competition, maximizing one's leverage. advantage, benefits which often means at the expense of others/the opp sex. If not incels it's not surprising you're going to get a lot of manipulative selfish terrible, and bitter or jaded people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:13 PM
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I'm not just talking about incels and blackpillers. Are you also implying there aren't any women who are just here to hate on men or have severe issues with trauma? You really think aside from these shitty men everyone is just a socially well-adjusted sex haver with a history of healthy relationships? This place by its very nature - discussing sexual strategy which heavily implies competition, a set of winners and losers, attracts those with a bone to pick with the opp sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:59 PM
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That's your intended purpose or vision of the sub, but it doesn't reflect the reality of the actual sexual history and mental state of the people, men and women, who frequent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:55 PM
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I've gotten warnings or notifications from mods just for responses that involve looks, not top comments. To continue the Shrek analogy it's like saying I can't respond to a comment by bringing up Shrek 2 even if it's just one response in a small paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:06 AM
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they all have the same face structure and overall aesthetic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:46 PM
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It's not like tik tok pretty boys are a diverse looking group so people aren't going to have varying ideas of what's in there
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:22 PM
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It's similar to the trend of men online who automatically respond when a woman talks about dating problems with "She could've gotten a nice guy but too busy getting pumped and dumped by chad". Although shitting on men is more acceptable and widespread, sanctioned by the mainstream culture and media.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:50 AM
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Always two there are, a master and an apprentice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:25 AM
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maybe in mother russia jk
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:03 AM
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Just another example for why citing mother nature is never a justification for how humans should do things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:01 AM
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You forgot the part where they would rather be called casual sex material b/c that's the one that implies physical attraction and husband material has traditionally been associated with being an unattractive schlubby provider after all the fun and games are over and it's time to settle down so maybe don't intentionally leave out context. Also, don't project, plenty of big-hearted men here (and everywhere) who grew up dreaming of romantic lives with their next-door oneitis before they got jaded. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:44 AM
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ig my point is. i ofc know that less attractive individuals can find themselves in relationships. it’s just that when i consider someone as a bf material, i equate that to being an attractive prospect for a relationship. and being at least somewhat attractive is assumed to be part of that. A lot of women have said that in this sub, I don't know what's going on but it contrasts with what a lot of men have experienced. One of my most poignant memories from h/s was a girl in our social circle telli…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:00 AM
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ok fair but somehow i think if people include 'attractive' onto the list of traits that comprise someone who is 'bf material' you wouldn't have so many men so familiar with the experience (personal or 2nd hand) of a woman telling a guy who sucks at dating he's bf material but "just not for her"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:46 PM
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a lot of people eventually want commitment and 2nd chances regardless of their past honestly you can get 2nd hand trauma just by watching people and how they talk about each other and how they talk about their SOs when he/she's not around
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:41 PM
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bc they have observed how easily unfaithful women can be and fear for their own chances of eventually finding a committed faithful woman just b/c he has a history of success with women doesn't mean the women he dates won't also turn around and fuck other fuckbois....at least that's what goes on in his head karma maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:38 PM
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from what i recall rp says you should continue to game but not cheat after marriage which is the rp's weakest point ie maintain frame so she remains attracted to you etc pretending to be someone else for ONS or casual is one thing, another to pretend to be someone for an entire marriage and most men aren't naturally like the rp persona for it to be feasible
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:36 PM
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you don't see sub 6 bfs around where u are?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:32 PM
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I agree. Just say you're sleeping around instead of trying to make something valid or official about it. I don't f with that polyamory open relationship bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:29 PM
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Not an open relationship case, but even when you're not the one she's cheating on, if she's willing to flirt heavily or cheat on someone else with you you can trust she'll do the same if she was your gf/wife. These types of women make men scared to be in relationships even as onlookers or recipients of affection. That's why a lot of fuckbois or guys who normally excel at playing the field actually get burnt out jaded and depressed. Tbf men do this too, hard to have faith in humanity and want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:23 PM
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You're talking as if you're so exasperated when you haven't even started trying. You're still in the phase of "I don't see what the problem is, clearly you're overreacting".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:14 PM
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A few women have told me, when complaining about men, that good intentions mean nothing, it's all about the result. Implying men need more than good intentions, they need to educate themselves on why women feel the way they feel, why they might take things the wrong way etc. All I ask is the same energy for men. Good intentions are appreciated but it's not enough, to paraphrase them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:59 PM
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A lot of femcels or misandrists actually like to say female sexuality is the same as male sexuality basically to get back at or trash men e.g. 10/10 gigachad or nothing sorry did u think we didn't care about looks we care about looks more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:56 PM
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I'm talking about whenever women have a problem with anything men do and men are confused why it bothers them. Why aren't men's feelings equally valid? You know the whole "you don't get to decide what (insert group) deems offensive?" Why doesn't this apply here? Also it's practically a meme about the bf/husband who has to tiptoe around his words even when he has the best of intentions not to offend or upset the woman because she's super sensitive about certain topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:50 PM
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Seems a bit more than personal with all the men here, and on twitter, coming from the same place. Again, you won't give men the same energy of "maybe there's something we're missing" that women would undoubtedly demand if the tables were turned.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:47 PM
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Yet when women respond to what a man says with a similar wave of backlash it's b/c men haven't been paying attention and we need to listen more, always something we're doing wrong. I guess I'm not surprised it doesn't work the same way in the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:46 PM
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Why do you insist on ignoring the context in which the term "husband material" is used 99% of the time? Which is to say, a nice consolation prize remark to a man the complimenter either would not date or someone who feels sorry for him because he's not killing it in the dating scene?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:43 PM
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Porn star? Not the same nuance and you know it. The actual term isn't relevant as you get my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:40 PM
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As long as you don't think it's weird for a chubby woman to get offended if a man tells his wife he's glad she's not one of those sexy OF chicks and is a more relatable down-to-earth woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:36 PM
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Admittedly I don't know him or the scene too well anymore. From his channel on YT alone it seems like he's a nice person and yeah cocky but shares respect and warmth amongst his peers. Maybe I got the completely wrong idea, I dunno. I did hear about a few of his popoffs but never thought it was rare or exceptionally bad among competitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:20 PM
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That's actually something I never thought about. She's so self-absorbed, utilitarian, solipsistic? - that she can't imagine why he would be upset because it sounds so perfect to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:09 PM
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It's a broken record at this point. Husband material is obviously good. A top-tier man is obviously husband material. In practice, nobody gets called husband material unless someone's trying to make them feel good b/c they're undesirable or no one else wants them. "But don't worry, someday someone will want you [after they're done fucking up their life]" It's that simple. Just two dots to connect I can't make it fewer than two dots.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:50 PM
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y u acting like there aren't women everywhere online complaining about how much they hate men and relationships? what do u think twoxchromosomes is?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:45 PM
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you underestimate the SMV of a chubby mid white man in asia
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:13 PM
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I mean nobody said there was, but people never say it b/c people are busy saying the first thing the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:12 PM
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None of this stops naturopaths from legally opening up their own clinics charging exorbitant prices for testing and treatment and telling people to try all sorts of useless supplements and remedies, potentially wasting a person's time and money and compromising their health.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:59 PM
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A Chad lunch. Completely opposite of a subhuman neurotypical lunch with avocado toast kombucha muh ancient grains and egg whites and turkey bacon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:55 PM
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this is why ur ppl not winning any gold medals
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:43 PM
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I like Punk. From what I've read he has quite a few detractors bc of his cockiness but honestly from what I've seen on his channel he seems like a genuinely nice dude. Also he's among the top in the world ofc he gon be a little cocky you can't get up to that level w/o summa dat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:34 PM
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Is that Street Fighter e-competitor LTG in your PFP?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:30 PM
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Yes it helps to remind ourselves not everyone fits into the two neat polarized boxes the american political culture has carved out for itself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:18 PM
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My conservative asian friend confused many people. He was all about fox news but insisted on wearing a mask, social distancing and keeping up to date on all vaccinations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:13 PM
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A sad fact I've learned is, as corrupt or lacking mainstream news and medicine is, I still trust it way way way more than 99.9% of alternative news or naturopathy. Finding one in the latter group with any actual value is like a needle in the haystack and a haven for grifters, scammers, people with an axe to grind and $ to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 06:52 PM
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The men saying the first thing aren't the same men saying the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 06:42 PM
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He's clearly above average. His style sucks but he's a 7 in the face with conventionally attractive features and proportions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:21 AM
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Exhibit 897538 why women live longer than men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:22 AM
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How is it correct if women will take a guy like that over any of their 10/10 standards as per truerateme?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:08 AM
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I'm sorry ima change. It's gonna take some time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:57 AM
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The guy she's talking about has a lot of the features that would be considered terrible and also would not be an example they would consider to have esp good harmony. She's not the only one, so I don't think BP is really correct even from a general standpoint unless you're talking extremely basic things like skin quality or youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:52 AM
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It's really not, because women have outright told me they prefer the type of eyes blackpillers say are subhuman or failos, or they prefer narrower faces or lower fWHR men. Doesn't make looks any less important though, I think BPers are just a bit too autistic about things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:49 AM
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Sorry it's a blackpill thing and it's good you don't know what I"m talking about. I was trying to summon the haiku bot as a test and it failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:47 AM
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Yeah but I've noticed in general the type of men women have been bringing up all have certain features that go against incel principles which tells me a lot of blackpill is bullshit. Also I was trying to summon the haiku bot with 17 syllables. Didn't seem to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:46 AM
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It varies depending on the woman, it could be anywhere from 25 to 35. Young attractive women are the ones who have the easiest time getting commitment from Chad. Women are at their most attractive in their 20s (on average) so it's relative, whatever man they are able to attract for commitment is always going to be significantly higher in quality than whatever type of man they can get to commit after the wall, which again may be anywhere from their late 20s to mid 30s. The men they could get to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:45 AM
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it's interesting girls like guys with long philtrums, not what blackpill says
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:38 AM
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From now on I'll try to make a lot of my comments haikus so as to invoke the haiku bot Hope that's not against sub rules
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:29 AM
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He's already a 5 based on being young, not fat, and no notable facial flaws. Easily could be a 6 or above if he leans out his face, gets a new hairstyle, burns his clothes and gets an entirely new wardrobe etc. Although yes, there would have to be major changes, but the potential is there. With that amount of babyfat unless he completely lets himself go I'd say there's no way he doesn't look better as he gets older even without trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:04 AM
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I agree to that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:02 AM
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Once again, just bc women on average will have higher SMV than men throughout their entire lives doesn't mean what you think it means. The wall is when women realize they can no longer attract the same quality of man she was able to in her prime or 20s for commitment. This doesn't mean they can no longer get sex, or attract men at all - only that the caliber of man willing to commit will sharply drop. Aside from letting yourself go, getting fat, or just the natural process of getting uglier as y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:00 AM
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I don't necessarily disagree with that, as it does seem modern society goes out of its way to validate women, almost disingenuously sometimes (all women are 10s) and not do the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:52 PM
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That's just biology, men's value can come from looks but more often comes from their persona or behavior or status. Women's value comes from their looks. You'll notice a lot of grass is greener from both sides - eg women often think being validated for their looks is overdone, fake (for example instagram comments and validation) and they don't feel respected for their accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:38 PM
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So what I mean is men can be sexually attractive to women through things other than their looks. If you're saying you are repulsed by the idea that average men will never be able to attract women based on their looks alone...that's always been the case as long as humans have existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:29 PM
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A lot of comments that have annoyed or pissed me off have been from autistic people on reddit. You can say the type of autistic people who are outspoken on reddit are the annoying unbearable shitty ones, not autistic people in general. I agree autist shouldn't be used as an insult and should check myself for that but I've also developed kind of a knee-jerk reaction because I'm sick of dumbass redditors. So there is my compromise, take it or leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:02 PM
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You can't really blame people for just assuming everyone is autistic b/c I've lost count how many times I've read a fucked up comment on reddit and then eventually it turns out, either through post history or further comments, that they have severe mental issues or are on the spectrum. I agree I should probably tone it down in terms of throwing around the term autist as an insult tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 10:53 PM
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So if you read between the lines on her response it's that women can find men attractive based on other things besides looks. If you're referring to being attracted to a man based on looks alone there are few men who fit this qualification. Average men need to learn that their looks aren't sufficient to incite a visceral response from women and that's normal and ok, they just need to work on other things. Women in general are still going to have it easier than men b/c of the sheer demand at almo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 10:49 PM
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You honestly have pleasant conventional features/base, you just look soft and dorky, what I would picture a redditor to look like except not as fat. Continue to lose weight, lift (I'm assuming he/him?), just stick with any number of basic routines and keep doing it every single day. Pick a fuckboi haircut (srs) and seriously swap out that anime wannabe style for anything else using google. You'll make face and body gains for sure, you also don't even look like you're 20 yet so some of that babyf…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 10:30 PM
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Another day, another strawman. Just going by how the men on this sub talk about their dating lives, on the whole I don't see them reducing women to being sex objects and cum vessels. Seeing as how places this actually select for the real weirdos and dysfunctional, the posts and comments from men re: texting or interacting with women in their daily lives are actually more wholesome than I expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 10:21 PM
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Plain is being generous. Large forehead zero angularity potato face bug eyes scleral show eyelid exposure, blotchy red skin, weird philtrum/mouth combo maybe a girl next door if it's a bad day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 06:22 PM
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My point exactly. And yet I've seen it happen a few times, and heard about it many more times online.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:23 PM
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Perhaps somewhat true, but the bottom line is this: No guy who is actually husband material - a man many women will naturally be fighting to lock down - will actually be called husband material by their friends, because there isn't ever a need to tell him that to justify why he's getting nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:17 PM
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Is it really a rabbit hole if that's just where you live
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:04 PM
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Honestly you just named some of the more normal unbiased ones, which speaks even greater volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:00 PM
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I don't believe men or women are any worse than each other. These online spaces however, attract a broader spectrrum of men and the most messed up women. Just like OLD, more men using it, the women on there are something else, because if you're struggling to get a date as a woman IRL you know there is some weird shit going on or they are in especially dire straits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 04:59 PM
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I have a couple asian friends who are even shorter who won't date men under 6 feet. It's probably a combo of things...maybe overcompensation due to height insecurity but also maybe internalized hate like they need to find a tall all-american white boy etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 04:04 PM
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how tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:53 PM
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Is there anything that is so equally nerdy and badass looking as ping pong in the olympics?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:53 PM
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Of course that is my own preference and also informed by cultural beauty standards (I am mixed East and Southeast Asian). That explains it. In terms of facial features, I know they like a more slender feminine look, but as far as I understand they still prefer a taller and more athletic/strong build in men. It's truly interesting to hear women say they prefer shorter men because I haven't seen or heard of it at all IRL or outside of individual comments. When I hear "only the US is obsessed with …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:31 PM
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We need to both acknowledge men and women are inherently different and also not be dicks to each other. The problem is a lot of people harp on the biological differences and are still assholes and other people are all about being nice and fair and equal without acknowledging biological differences. You gotta have both.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:26 PM
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Maybe they are just more direct over there, at least with I'm just not into you/You're not my type. It's hard to imagine a woman saying it directly to a guy in the US, although "it's me not you" is a funny meme here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:19 PM
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I hear about it constantly online, as expected, and have heard it about 4 times IRL from women saying it to decidedly unattractive men over my 27 years on the planet. Is that a lot? Seems like it, but what do I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:16 PM
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Well yes, even a slightly built man has more capacity for strength and violence than the average woman, that doesn't negate the fact that women naturally gravitate toward more imposing men, taller, stronger looking etc. Sometimes I wonder if the women who like skinnier men unconsciously prefer it b/c it's a compromise to feel safer or less threatened.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:07 PM
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Again I'm not talking about what the term "husband material" literally means. You have to consider how it is used 99% of the time, which is as a consoling nice thing to say to a guy you would never date or fuck yourself b/c if you're honest with yourself, he's not attractive enough or incites zero visceral feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:04 PM
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Right, but a lot of women will call their male friends or certain guys "bf/husband material" while dating and having sex with other men. So it's clear they aren't waiting for that special someone to share that sexual experience that means so much to them, otherwise they would just go for these male friends - or at least be open to it, when they clearly are not. When a woman calls a guy "husband material" it's usually not from someone like yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:02 PM
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Women also hold the additional social power of the law and the courts being much more likely to be on their side should any dispute emerge or escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:58 PM
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my friend said she was bleeding and having a bad time and i said i thought it's called premenstrual syndrome so why are you still crying and that did not go over well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:54 PM
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If a guy is "boyfriend" or "husband material" there's no reason for any woman to wait. Ironically the only time it's probably not as bad of an insult is if the woman saying it is into casual sex and sleeping around. Most women are not, which makes BF/husband material all the more terrible of a thing to say, as they are usually shooting for commitment by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:50 PM
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Honestly that's kind of fair, the threat of physical force from the man is just something inherent in every coupling regardless of what laws exist and yet women don't want a physically unimposing guy either. Makes sense why the ideal for a lot of women seems to be the "bad boy" who has demonstrated he is capable of violence and aggression toward others while being protective or "nice" to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:41 PM
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It's the context in which it is used, you can't ignore this and just focus on the literal semantics. BF or husband material is mostly said when a female friend tells a guy he'll "make a very lucky girl happy someday" but would never date or fuck him herself. Or it's said with the implication he's a great option to settle down with after a decade of making mistakes and shacking up with the wrong men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:32 PM
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Is physical power relevant if physical strength is no longer really necessary/prized in the modern day and leveraging physical dominance (basically domestic abuse/violence) is illegal and the woman just needs to alert authorities? When you say "Which one of you is more willing to leave" that's basically social power and it's the woman who wields it b/c she's usually the one with more options should they break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:24 PM
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"Attraction is non-negotiable" is a pointless saying. It just means nothing will make them attracted to you in that moment or if you stay the same and don't change yourself. There are plenty of things that influence why someone is or isn't attracted to you, and the result will be different if personal or environmental changes take place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:17 PM
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I mean he isn't ugly at all but he does look kind of interesting and is too skinny. Not that it matters, he's not famous for being a heartthrob.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:08 PM
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Also the country with the largest population in the world, you'd think they'd get at least a few golds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:07 PM
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They usually argue the opposite, that they can smell a misogynistic abusive shitty creep from a mile away when telling men it's their personality giving them trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 01:39 AM
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Right, so there are some things like good dick, reputation, money, etc that keep women around even if he's a POS. You won't find a woman who sticks around b/c of his paunch or double chin.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:08 AM
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B/c literally no woman I've seen has ever gushed over a dadbod. The men that women have whispered about when he's not around based on purely superficial qualities have never had dadbods. The dadbod has never been actually praised spontaneously out loud from any of the many women I've been around. What I have seen are often women who get into relationships with men who are otherwise fit or handsome and then the man gains weight later but they are still together, but this is entirely different. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:06 AM
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B/c she settled in the looks dept, looks aren't the only thing women look for but dadbods are not what they are specifically or directly attracted to either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:52 AM
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What gets me is saying "dadbods are sexy/I love dadbods" and then "looks don't matter" in the same breath or discussion. Like which is it? Has any woman ever demanded a dadbod? Was he full of red flags but you were like oh shit he do have that little belly tho ima stick around? Just sounds like a bunch of words to deflect and virtue signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:44 AM
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Some male per week vs entire posts full of upvotes and assenting women (and men)? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:12 AM
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There are way more posts of "Old men age like milk" and "Age gap relationships are disgusting b/c young women don't like old men" than the reverse here. These posts also get way more upvotes than those defending or advocating for men. There are also way more men here who defend women than the reverse. Par for the course.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:09 AM
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Can you imagine a piece, op-ed, whatever, on Abc news, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WSJ or the HuffPost, centered around female entitlement? Now ask the same question with an article about misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:05 AM
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The fact that I can't even imagine such a requirement for an event speaks volumes for how things are. Unless it's meant to be part of the joke and it's like some type of spoof event.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:03 AM
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Specifically men's opinions that involve criticizing women are unacceptable or niche vs the reverse being very acceptable if not celebrated, not as much opinions from men or women overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:58 PM
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hur hur
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:48 PM
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She has more leverage as a young attractive woman than he does as an old fat unattractive man with money. If you like keeping score he would be the one at a disadvantage if anything, but everyone conventionally automatically labels it the reverse. In actuality if you go by individual cases I would expect to find that neither of them is being victimized.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:44 PM
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Telling me to touch grass? No, YOU touch grass Heh welp
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:42 PM
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As long as you don't think it's preying if it's money the very thing the woman wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:41 PM
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You know what I agree there too, the point is both parties likely know what's going on and neither is the victim. But if we HAD TO choose one, why not choose the one with the higher SMV and leverage in the market, clearly the woman? And yet despite this it's overwhelmingly more culturally and socially acceptable to automatically frame the man as the manipulator and pervert and woman as the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:37 PM
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A lot of manospherians believe modern women's standards are the result of runaway entitlement and inflation of self-worth from feminism, socialization from birth that they are better than men, perpetual victims, health and beauty at any size, and so on. So I'd agree with your point, but don't entirely agree or disagree with their points. I would argue against this idea of women not complaining and just being able to stay silent or walk away. Women complain constantly about men, and they are give…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:33 PM
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I agree, I shouldn't have thrown plant-based in there. A lot of these keto low-carb guys also just forget fruits and veggies are carbs, tho they do demonize fruit b/c "fructose is terrible". Show me one guy who got fat or aged prematurely from eating too much fruit, I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:20 PM
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I have never seen the point of "you can't negotiate attraction" because negotiating attraction is literally what TRP tries to do. By changing your dress, your appearance, your level of fitness, your demeanor, your body language, your money, your social standing, whatever, you are trying to make women more attracted to you than they would be otherwise. What is that if not negotiating attraction? If you mean you can't negotiate attraction in that if she's not attracted to you then you can't do any…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:18 PM
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still way too close
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:07 PM
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In moderation it's fine. The thing I will concede is basically, if you're a fat, sedentary person living in the west, it's probably a good idea to watch your pasta/pizza/pastries or whatever carb-heavy-adjacent food and get your ass off the couch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:56 PM
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There was a thread started a long while ago here positing that in a relationship, sugar/money based or otherwise, between a young hot woman and an old rich or financially stable man, that it's the old rich man who is the victim if there is a victim at all. The young hot woman has all the leverage and will always be able to find another man, any man, of any age, any niche or career sector, any looks-level, any financial level for commitment. Or so the post went. Yet nobody accuses the woman of dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:53 PM
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Me neither, meat has its place, I'm talking more about extremes like saying all carbs are bad, carbs and sugar are poison etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:38 PM
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You're an exception. A lot of people doing the low-to-no carb diet are somehow still fat. I'm not talking about just moderating refined carbs or trying to be healthier but actually like I said going out of their way to only eat high fat and protein foods and keeping their carbs under 50g per day. I don't know how someone who is remotely physically active can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:37 PM
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Makes them look humble while allowing for compliment fishing, sometimes it can also be fun to be sad like listening to sad music
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:25 PM
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I've never seen someone doing low-carb who was all there and wasn't kind of a weirdo loser. When I say low-carb I mean full-on-keto or using artificial sweeteners for everything, indulging in butter and bacon b/c "fat is great, sugar is poison".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:21 PM
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Post things about diet or weight, she'll chime in soon. Not downplaying her or anyone else's problem with body image or eating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:14 PM
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Everyone who writes a book or has a show about cutting out sugar and carbs or processed food to stay healthy, lose weight, slow aging, keto/paleo etc looks like complete haggard shit and sometimes is actually still quite fat. How am I supposed to believe them? I feel like I got sick the most and felt the worst when eating too much fiber or fruits and veggies. I actually do believe obviously a plant-based diet is better than the one most americans have but I wonder just how big the difference is …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:12 PM
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...which is how 'husband material' is used. People who say there's nothing wrong with it either aren't factoring this in or are being disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:52 PM
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i kno i was just throwing that out there going by blackpill the most upstanding beautiful women still prefer a dirty chad with shitstains on his boxers over a well-dressed sub-chad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:49 PM
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With cheeto dust encrusted on top. Cum glitter, if u will.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:45 PM
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Why wash your balls, lift, or up your style when it's all about your face. Chadrone can pull with cum-stained sweatpants and tabasco on his wifebeater.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:31 PM
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Then why did they come to lust for him in the first place? Like you said, he's an ordinary looking guy. Something about him made him more than ordinary. That thing is more sustainable than looks, plain and simple. Sorry you haven't touched enough grass to realize this. I'm guessing you're 20, so you're forgiven.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:17 PM
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Basic expected PPD answer, but welp not surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:11 PM
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I'm talking about if he was interacting with women IRL. Vs these other athletes. His persona takes him farther than their looks. As I said, publicly speaking neither the turkish guy or these "hot gymnasts" are going to stick in anyone's minds for long. Still, the turkish guy will have a longer online shelf-life if you are up for keeping score.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:08 PM
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Put another way, dating a woman who likes you primarily for your looks is a no-thank-you, not just in terms of the type of woman this is but also just longevity of attraction. She will get bored easily, she will be looking at other attractive men, if your looks infer the status she likes this is even worse, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:03 PM
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It's not the idea of being fit to be a husband that is bad, it's how in reality in what context the term "husband material" is used. It's usually to refer to a guy whom a woman isn't willing to date but she's sure he will be good for "someone else", or a guy who is a safe option once the woman has had a lot of fun and made a lot of mistakes and needs to settle down. You can guess the inferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:59 PM
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From a public standpoint, all will be forgotten instantly, we are exposed to hot people constantly in the media. I found some athletes hot while watching the olympics and the olympics aren't even over and I've already forgotten their names or even what they looked like. The turkish guy can garner attraction as long as he is who he is IRL just like the hot people will garner attraction IRL b/c they are hot. The type of attraction the turkish guy breeds stands on more solid ground bc women always …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:46 PM
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To entertain your point, it could also be that men care less about taboos or acceptance; male attraction is less influenced by social trends and conventions eg preselection, status, social proof aren't nearly as strong of drivers of attraction, even though the trope of men willing to bang a fat chick but unwilling to be seen with her in public exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:42 PM
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I don't really care about pills I just try to call everything like I see it. Ultimately women still have it easier b/c they will rarely suffer from lack of male interest or attention; the caveat is if they aren't top women the attention will either be out of sexual boredom and/or not from a top man, which many women find unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:34 PM
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There's always a lot of disagreement surrounding this but to me even someone who is simply on the younger side and not overweight is easily a 6 w/o trying b/c the average is not a high bar. Going from this yeah it's not uncommon for men of this level to be with unconventional women, even tho/but I don't know what your friend looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:32 PM
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I would say women still have it easier b/c at least Beckys, average women, weird women who deviate from the norm, will have attention directed their way by not-a-small-number of men. But these women won't be having any top men looking their way. My point was just saying there are men who are really into each type of woman isn't entirely accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:26 PM
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The thirst won't last long for any of these guys to be fair b/c they are just athletes same as celebrities except with even less pull or media coverage. I would say in real life the Turkish guy would have much more long-lasting appeal. None of these pretty interchangeable gymnast/swimmer people are going to stick in anyone's minds either tbh, and at least the turkish guy lives on as a meme and no one will get him mixed up with anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:24 PM
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When guys say there are a lot of men who are into every type of woman so it's a lot easier to be attractive enough as a woman, how effective are the implications when you consider the nuances? When was the last time you saw a conventionally attractive or top man who had very unconventional tastes or liked for example fat alternative women with purple hair? So it's more just like a lot of men who know they have limited options have become okay with unconventional women being sufficiently attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:16 PM
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Often times the competence needs to be high status impressive competence, like a special skill in something unique and admired. Someone who does a solid consistent job sweeping floors and cleaning toilets every day isn't going to wet any panties. This is unfortunately also the case with a lot of trade jobs, the competence has to be filtered through status, even tho technically a lot of trades pay well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:40 PM
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It was truly great, I wish I had been completely sober watching it the 1st time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:14 PM
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All of which is fleeting, if a woman automatically latches onto you bc of your looks 1) it won't last long unless you give her more reason to stick around and 2) if it does last you know she's shallow and will always be checking for other hot dudes I see a lot of women in social media comments thirsting for the turkish guy, this type of thirst will last longer b/c it's based on the type of person they think he is or the persona women have imagined for him, regardless of how accurate it is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:11 PM
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There was one discussion I remember you were having, another one I think was on this sub and I also had a couple IRL discussions with some dudes at work about it. Would've posted earlier but got banned for a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:06 PM
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Men who are downplaying the female attention and attraction to the Turkish Olympic shooter show they don't have a good understanding of male attractiveness. They say well if he was a nobody he wouldn't be getting all this attention. Well yeah, absolutely not, that's the point. Men show their value and garner attraction by doing things and by their behavior; he did so by demonstrating traits and skills deemed masculine while separating himself from the rest of the men, he showed masculinity and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:02 PM
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I know everyone saw Cole Hocker and his fellow goofy looking american teammate pull off that historic upset in the 1500m against the two arrogant pretty chads from Scotland/UK and Norway. All that talk, voiceover hype and WWE entrance shit only to come in 2nd and not place at all. U-S-A U-S-A
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:55 PM
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you need to keep track if it's the same wiping session or within a day after that it resets, the entire towel becomes game again
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:34 PM
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I also have similar questions about why tall people are said to have more back problems or knee or joint issues. The answer I'm always given is "physics", which I'm like..ok. Because you'd think a taller person would have the extra muscular or tendon support proportionally to handle the naturally higher amount of weight bearing that occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:28 PM
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Women have a separate bath towel for every part of their body. Men will use a towel to dry off even if they wiped their ass and balls with it 2 days prior b/c the towel resets after a day and what happened before doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:11 PM
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It's more about how you look alongside other taller men and comparing men relative to others is what women automatically will do. Although I'm not going to necessarily fight you on the proportion thing, but I'm confused why anatomically or biologically this is the case. Wouldn't tall people have equal likelihood of proportions relative to their height? Why would you expect medium height men to be more likely to be proportional and tall men to have like short torsos and super long legs (or the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:01 PM
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I believe it. Then the gaslighting about how "it's not about race" as if it's your personal flaws and shortcomings. And yeah looks like the OP in this thread got deleted already so..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:37 PM
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The ol' get-to-know-your-daughters-boyfriend-by-taking-him-shooting tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:24 PM
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You can't get anywhere with dating and gender dynamic discussions without race eventually coming into it. Just another reason why the discussions here will forever be gimped and limited in their effectiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:21 PM
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I know, and you own 500 acres of desolate farmland so no one will ever find me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:18 PM
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Tall and broad shouldered (but not overly ripped or lean) are two traits normally identified as masculine I actually find attractive in women. Narrow soft rounded shoulders just look terrible on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:14 PM
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My 5'7" friend told me the olympics have given him inspiration to continue to improve his body and lifting after seeing all the thirst comments and tweets from women about the male gymnasts. Previously he was wondering if it was just better to stay skinny since a buff 5'7 man might just look try-hard or comical.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:03 PM
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Possibly. It's hard to imagine why that would be the case, unless a lot of women have just been conditioned to associate the word thin with beautiful, sexy, top-tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:46 PM
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I say this too. Nature is no bar for how civilized human society should be so using it to justify anything is pointless. Like my favorite statistic: 40% of couplings being involuntary for one of the parties eg 40% of mating in nature is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:44 PM
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Maybe if you're above 30? Where the heck do you people live, a lot of these men who are having trouble with women still have spots and are studying for college midterms. And it's literally in the term, "looksmatch". It's someone who matches your level of looks, none of this "you attract exactly what the market gives you" dismissiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:34 PM
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They aren't rare for the age group of a lot of guys struggling with dating, which is men under 30. The very fact that thin women esp in these younger demos are way more common than chads only reinforces this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:32 PM
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Northern elephant seal-pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:28 PM
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True. However yoga seems to be the domain of moms or women who already have the luxury to be OCD about staying very skinny eg trophy or UMC wives with nothing to do but push their gigantic strollers around lattes in their cupholders etc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:12 PM
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That's true. I still don't see the relevance. Men aren't going to start getting hard for manly women just b/c they know their future kids will have a harder time becoming Chads than Stacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:08 PM
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Who says that? Ultimately you're asking for people to select against what they naturally want eg men choosing very masculine women so I doubt this selection strategy is viable and will ever be commonplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:03 PM
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If she meant that she would have said that...otherwise it's common knowledge just from being alive and out in public thin women come with all types of proportions, faces, heights and styles.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:00 PM
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And her genes may very well be detrimental if they have a girl so.... In addition to straight men in general just not gravitating toward masculine traits in women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:46 PM
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What if they get daughters instead? None of this makes sense to me, selecting for certain dimorphic traits has no bearing on whether you'll have a boy or girl and the effect could be reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:40 PM
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Pretty sure wanting manly masculine sons has zero to do with what straight men prefer in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:30 PM
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Paraphrasing a poster I was arguing with yesterday, "Thin women's equivalent is fit, athletic, goodlooking men." There you have it, just being thin means a woman is in a top-tier entitled to Chads. It's possible this person just lives in an area that's like 99% fat people, but with premises and attitudes like this it's no wonder discussion goes nowhere. As long as this premise exists you really can't expect reasonable responses, not that reddit or the internet is known for productive discussion …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:17 PM
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...Then just don't respond or say anything if you think they're too ugly or are unwilling to provide empathy. Better than formulating responses that put blame on the man like he's unfairly criticizing women, overly toxic, or wrong in his conclusions. How is that not obvious? A lot of women simply can't deal if the man is right and have to proactively protect their virtue-signaling, image, and narrative at all costs even if it's just an anonymous man online.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:11 PM
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Yes, but social skills and proof matter way more for men than women. That's why a goodlooking autistic man will get attention but struggle and fumble the entire way to arrive at a very mediocre result. An autistic woman just needs to mask enough not to weird the guy out alongside bare minimum looks standards eg just don't be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:49 PM
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Hot women know they're hot. Because of simps average women think they're hot, and without simps average women would think they're average.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:44 PM
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probably a lot, i don't hate on anyone's sexual orientation but I wonder just how many lesbians are lesbians b/c they just have a lot of undealt with trauma from upbringing or yes, terrible men in their past it's not natural, sexual attraction to one group doesn't mean hating or thinking other groups are inferior unless there are other things heavily involved
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:29 PM
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I'd say lesbian and also mentally ill with some PTSD or traumatic past with men, because it just sounds unnecessarily polarized and extreme. You don't need to be sexually attracted to a group to appreciate their qualities. Honestly I'm only sexually attracted to women and even I think a lot of times women can be more vapid with cookie cutter personalities depending on what instagram trends are popular at the moment, saying all the same catch phrases like robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:26 PM
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Then why do people still give blue-pilled advice to men who clearly are mid? Telling a fat neckbeard his problem is actually not respecting women or being too toxic vs cleaning up his face, losing weight, etc. The blue-pill just ignores this altogether, there is so premise or assumption of the man's looks in either direction, but ignoring looks altogether is problematic. I would say many men are just "kind of there" in that they aren't super weird acting but also aren't very good at being proact…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:17 PM
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How are they socially punished in 2024? Aside from pockets of men online?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:13 PM
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If it's such a detriment and reverse privilege why do women constantly seek out hot or at least above average men to fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:12 PM
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Either that or they're using looks to compensate for lack of social skills. Social skills matter a lot, being goodlooking is a separate thing and obviously matters as well. As far as I know blue-pill actually doesn't say that, a lot of them just say it's implied and most men should just know this, despite most mainstream dating advice ignoring looks altogether. It's the same deal when getting advice re: dating from teachers, community leaders, our parents, etc. Nobody talks about it pre: blackpi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:36 PM
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Literally better than porn if you're blackpilled. Show should be flagged for extremely arousing content.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:27 PM
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I dunno man, I"ve seen a lot of guys in relationships who are average. I still think neurotypical extroversion or functionality is the key. I'm not saying the BP is right obviously b/c they don't account for these types of things, there are a helluva lot of men who have bad social skills due to upbringing or being deprived of socialization or a dysfunctional childhood. Obviously being goodlooking helps, but I also see a lot of goodlooking men with bad social skills who get attention but struggle…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:40 PM
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Blue-pill actually works if you're already socially well-adjusted and decent at making and navigating conversation with people (alongside hygiene, grooming, self-care etc.) It's the socially awkward neurodivergent men who find some RP or BP prescriptions useful in that they have to go out of their way to formulate a persona or aesthetic attractive to women b/c the original one they arrived at will absolutely not cut it. Neurodivergence, autism, social stunting absolutely destroys men in dating. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:20 PM
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Literally was talking to a woman here yesterday to did what I described and I see it often. They can't imagine someone who complaints about dating woes to actually be a normal functioning person IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:06 PM
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Wholesome comment I would not expect from someone named LongDongOfMojave.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:51 PM
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Everyone has flaws I need to find someone I am willing to deal with despite all the flaws. There's no winning if the expectation is an angel with little flaws b/c the angel thing goes away if I spend any amount of time with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:47 PM
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My toxic trait is having an immature view of romance and relationships. She can be my one-itis and I'll pedestalize her but once I start talking to her she eventually and quickly becomes a normal person. I need to find someone I like so much it doesn't matter if I know she already shits, farts, burps, cusses and has many awkward moments, looks like crap in the morning, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:42 PM
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There doesn't actually need to be cheating involved for me to lose faith in humanity and not ever want to get into another LTR. Just the idea that people's eyes will be wandering, roaming, little convos and exchanges here and there, people will get bored and sick of you no matter how in love with you they were at first. You can be the guy these taken women hit on, or you can see it as an observer, but it's rampant and happens all the time, makes me want to stay single. My idealistic self really …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:39 PM
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The women here assume/do the exact same to the men. You can't get laid? I disagree with you and dislike what you stand for? You're socially awkward? You must be a fat hideous basement dweller.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:32 PM
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It's funny how I've heard both men and women go "well obviously PPD men/women are below average". Idgaf if people call me ugly lol they have no idea who I am, but it's telling how strong the halo effect is. You dislike a group's views - or maybe they are being total asswipes who knows - so you assume they are cave-dwelling bridge trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:32 PM
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Don't insult tera-chad Forrest Whitaker by comparing him to this subhuman. Her eyes are uneven b/c of bad symmetry. His eyes are uneven b/c he's gauging the distance, lying in wait, prepared to strike.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:01 AM
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But the whole point of his comment was to say that ppd men are the ones trolling women on these apps for being fat and have unrealistic standards for how thin women should be....? Like I was saying, certain trolls who should be banned aren't and those whom I thought were relatively innocuous get warned and booted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:13 PM
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then why did that guy reference ppd men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:05 PM
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yes they are
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:01 PM
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There's some middle ground to settle in here, like our state of being is unnatural and harmful but it's not necessarily our fault
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:00 PM
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There are exceptions but the overall trend is people were much thinner and fitter naturally without elaborate workout programs or diets in basically all societies before they switched over to a western lifestyle. The heroin chic ultra-thin marketing excuse can't be applied to a lot of these places. I talk about here in the US a lot but even more dramatic differences can be seen in other countries like in Asia and say Samoa or many pacific islands. It's a bigger contrast b/c genetically some isla…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:55 PM
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I dunno, I'm not a mod. There are a lot of ppl the mods have suspended and banned here whom I would not have banned, and people who should be but are still allowed to comment. I'm not saying I know about everything that goes on behind the scenes either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:46 PM
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is that what many ppd men do? honestly i haven't seen it, but if i missed something lmk
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:40 PM
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A lot of women think all the guys in here are just stacy chasing with sky high standards. Might as well give them some actual evidence to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:38 PM
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And this is why straight men are super jealous of gay men and how easy it is to be attractive to other gay men vs being attractive to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:37 PM
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Weak 5 on a good day. Butt-chin, nose too pointy, long philtrum recessed lower third, manly thick eyebrows, hair covering weird rotting pumpkin head shape, what else is it hiding? It was over for her before it began.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:36 PM
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Based upon what I perceive to be personality traits veering toward meekness, away from aggression, being timid, afraid to voice or do anything remotely controversial, afraid of retaliation, not having a spine, being placating and smothering out of desperation or affection starvation, or b/c they don't know when the next woman will give them a chance What is your idea that these nerds are equally as likely to be abusive based off of? Make no mistake these are still very repulsive traits to women,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:32 PM
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Nothing is absolutely foolproof, but the chances are significantly smaller. Like saying if you don't want to get cheated on go for a traditional-minded woman who goes to church regularly. Smaller risk, not zero risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:23 PM
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Aside from Automatic Meaning, an obvious troll, what other men are you referring to here? Bc if anything the men have a lenience toward bigger body types or at least absolutely women above 21 BMI.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:16 PM
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Was a lot of this going on through DMs or was she indirectly taking things men were saying personally? I don't recall men ever calling her fat or encouraging her to starve herself. Aside from AutomaticMeaning who is a troll, if anything the men here are much more lenient and open to bigger women, certainly women above 21 BMI. I prefer thinner women also but I've never promoted very thin, just not overweight and also healthy. I also have said as a chubby man I don't deserve a thin woman until I l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:09 PM
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Going on a tangent, I wouldn't say he's a horrible actor but there has always been something unconvincing about his movies and I don't know why. Maybe it's b/c he kinda looks like an overgrown middle-aged child play-acting even though I have to respect him putting in so much effort to remove himself from typecasting and trying out different roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:48 PM
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Bc his primary looks appeal came from being young and "pretty" with not very many masc features aside from maybe a broader face or squinty eyes. These types of faces in men don't tend to age well, but his lifestyle and apathy hasn't helped either. With his resources he could easily put in some effort to stay in decent shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:30 PM
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So when you can't argue the point anymore, you just call everyone ugly just to cover all the bases lol. Have you done anything besides evade? Not shocked tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:20 PM
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Mickey Rourke fucked up his face with plastic surgery but more importantly he was never as big as Leo in the first place... If you wanna go that route there are plenty of very attractive actors who aren't especially successful and it's not b/c they aren't as attractive as whatever pool of leading men hollywood has at any one point in time. There are also plenty of actors who have largely lost their looks with age but since they gained clout in their youth they continue to get roles
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:14 PM
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Not really, I find a lot of stock models or fitness or ad models to be more attractive than a lot of A-list celebs, or even random people I see in public or baristas or cashiers; leading man status is equally about uniqueness or connections in addition to looking "good enough". Also I never said he wasn't goodlooking in his youth. I'm talking about currently. He would be invisible in his current state without any of his fame or money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:06 PM
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Nope. Maybe when he was young and goodlooking. Now without his status and fame he'd be a bloated middle-aged man maybe with cool eyes. Ironically it's because of his status and fame as a former international heartthrob that he can afford to just let himself go and look like shit. One of my female friends put it like this about her thing for Leo despite him being 50 and fat. "Yes, but he will AWAYS be Jack from Titanic. That will always be true."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:55 PM
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Go to any college campus, thin women are the norm, not solely among the top %. Thin men are also the norm. Fit and muscular men aren't bc being fit and muscular (along with being born with a good face) take a lot more luck and effort. If thin women are the top % again I feel bad for where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:45 PM
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I'm not being high and mighty I'm just saying everyone putting asian women on a pedestal is cringe. Try not to take it so seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:35 PM
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PPD is full of weebs and asian women are always severely overrated. Socially awkward men also love asian women, probably b/c it can also go both ways and asian beauty standards for men in a way also favor kind of the nerdier more feminine type. You don't need to be a chad and actually depending on the woman the chad type might be a turnoff. This isn't a knock on their standards, I'm just explaining why things are the way they are. I said this one time and got called "out of touch" bc anime has b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:24 PM
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That's right on point actually. She's not ugly but she's nowhere near the caliber of woman the type of guys she fucks would ever commit to. If she was, she wouldn't still be jumping from rope to rope.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:21 PM
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LMAO why would a thin woman's looksmatch be a guy who has to put in exponentially more effort in addition to not being fat? You're the textbook example of a woman hamstering to justify inflated self-worth and entitlement. There are way more thin women than fit muscular goodlooking men not b/c men are lazier but b/c it straight up requires way more effort to achieve the latter in addition to the genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:15 PM
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Meteor meeks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:04 PM
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For a lot of these young men in their early to mid 20s, it's not entitled at all to want a woman who isn't fat, a woman who isn't a single mom, a woman who hasn't hit 30 or had many sex partners. If you think these qualifications are steep or above average I feel bad for where you live. There's maybe one fat guy who demands a thin woman and I don't even know if that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:02 PM
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Just another Chadrone throwing out a blue-pilled "you can be anything you want" platitude i'm jp
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:49 PM
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I think a guy already posted or commented something similar a week ago but I was reminded b/c a girl in my broader social circle was talking about dating and guys and somebody made a comment about short guys and she goes "Oh no forget it, I'm done with short kings." Then when asked she basically said she dated a short guy a year ago and things didn't work out. Everyone else she's had a thing with has been a tall athletic conventional white chad. Since she's kind of a trainwreck also it's not a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:39 PM
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I'm hearing you say it's pointless b/c you have no examples of any guy here actually being a stacy-chasing d-bag. A lot of men here look fine or even decent yet struggle regularly with their looksmatch, the dailychat comments reflect this, the type of women they simp for and talk adoringly about reflect this, most of the comments from men relating their dating lives reflect this, all I'm asking is for an example supporting your point to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:31 PM
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They really don't, unless they are goodlooking, because looks matter a lot more if they meet online. There are many different factors why one guy somehow can find a beautiful kind funny gf and another guy everything fairly equal can't find anything. There's no way the leagues of these two similar men can be said to be far apart even though their success with women is night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:29 PM
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What about the men, who were also effortlessly thin comparatively to modern men? You don't think with all the looksmaxxing sites and media out there, tiktok culture etc now being able to spread much faster, much farther, that disordered eating marketing isn't exponentially even worse now? Even the supposed "thicc" culture which makes it "more ok" to weigh a little more promotes unhealthy and obsessive eating practices in addition to unhealthy and potentially dangerous practices in the gym to mee…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:02 PM
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I'm just saying he's a troll and he's getting exactly what a troll wants. No point in calling it sad that he hasn't posted a picture or whatever b/c he's a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:58 PM
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I still don't see the disconnect. The whole point these men are giving is that even with very low standards all they want is for a woman to not be fat, which is to them the lowest of bars. I always hear about how men here have high standards or just want Stacy and I have yet to see any evidence aside from maybe one guy trolling. Instead it's a lot of men simping hard for average women, relating their awkward exchanges and text messaging with random women in their life. If you have any concrete e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:56 PM
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For sure, idc who you date, just don't spread misinformation so you can win an argument or bc it's what you like to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:54 PM
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He's getting exactly what he wants trolling which is continued outrage and responses. Why would he ever need to post a photo or prove anything? It doesn't even make a difference, he could be a Chad or a landwhale.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:47 PM
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Both can be true at the same time. Men can filter out fat women and still by their definition and perspective have much lower standards than women whom they deem very hypergamous and 'Chad-only' as a whole. There isn't any hypocrisy there and I don't see any man ever saying they have no standards. That's the whole point of "women just need to not be fat" vs the qualifications men face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:43 PM
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Men are guilty of it too bc being fat is so normalized. I believe the people here who said sustained weight loss is impossible therefore no point in trying were men, and there were several men a while back here who said a man who is 6 feet 200 pounds isn't bad and probably looks decent but bc women are hypergamous they are invisible. This is delusion possibly b/c we're so used to seeing fat people. It's possible for a guy who's 6' 200 lbs to look great b/c he's a heavily muscled athlete or bodyb…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:37 PM
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Most people are fat so it's not surprising at all you get a ton of people coping about how fat is natural and ok. There are literally people here saying sustained weight loss is impossible with plenty of upvotes. RIP the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:21 PM
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Just take a look at people before 2000. All of a sudden after 2000 they settled into their 'natural' obese state? Yea ok. People back then were effortlessly thin, and they didn't spend a lot of the time in the gym either. Sure, it's a lot of things, food additives, sedentary internet and work culture, technology, convenience, corn subsidies, but point is it ain't natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:18 PM
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So average awkward men who can't get a single match on OLD are not even good enough to be matched with bridge trolls? I don't understand why you oversimplify things like that, it's almost disingenuous at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:06 PM
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So average awkward men who can't get a single match on OLD are not even good enough to be matched with bridge trolls? I don't understand why you oversimplify things like that, it's almost disingenuous at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:05 PM
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So average awkward men who can't get a single match on OLD are not even good enough to be matched with bridge trolls? I don't understand why you oversimplify things like that, it's almost disingenuous at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:05 PM
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"You attract your league" is at best a vast oversimplification of what's going on. Plenty of average men struggle to get even a couple matches and it doesn't mean they are bottom-tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:04 PM
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Your looks (and your looksmatch) determine your league, not what you can attract. There are a thousand different factors that determine why someone can attract someone better looking than them or can't attract someone on their level or worse looking, but all that's irrelevant. That's the whole reason why people say "He dated a girl out of his league". Because she's more physically attractive. But yet he still got her to date/commit to him. Going by "you attract your league" they're in the same l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:09 AM
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I can't comprehend the level of stupid or sheltered if these shows aren't scripted because there are people dragged onto the show and their SO tells them they have some news and they ask if it's good news or they're going on vacation like they don't know what show they're on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:59 AM
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This is what I'm talking about, except the comments are heavily upvoted, and the comments are about more serious topics like health or politics so the damage is much more than getting Wizard of Oz trivia wrong. Also, at least the person was like "oh i thought" and admitted wrong instead of doubling down which happens more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:06 AM
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The very design of reddit attracts the most outspoken, polarized, and mentally ill or socially stunted with respect to the subject matter of the particular sub. I didn't know this and came into reddit initially thinking it would be a great place to get intelligent insight and advice instead of low IQ or stubborn circle jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:50 AM
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Agree that young Obama overall was a more attractive package vs the other 2. But none of these men would have struggled (maybe even now?) at pulling beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:11 AM
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Reddit has shown me that the most dangerous thing about stupid people (like 50% of the site minimum) is they often don't sound stupid but people are influenced by them nonetheless b/c they just take what is written at face value. You'll find the same thing with flat-earthers, most of them just sound and behave like everyday people. Their comments normally sound like they come from sensible people until you look deeper and find all sorts of bias and jumping to conclusions, bandwagon-hopping, base…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:03 AM
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I don't mean to sound like a smarmy asshole like akchually but this sounds like textbook description of dieting because of a deep desire for control. Dieting, calorie counting, is one of the tangible things people look to - esp for young women with the social pressures - because everything else in life can seem very shitty, random, or out of one's control. Doesn't change or nullify anything you wrote, but thought I'd add that in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:58 PM
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If you've been on reddit regularly for more than a few weeks you come to realize most people are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:54 PM
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I believe most men with high status esp beyond the local level - they don't need to necessarily be billionaires or President of the United States - won't ever have trouble getting beautiful women. I think these men know this and come to just value personality bc they know they have the buffet and the mystery or wonder is gone. There's no other explanation really, esp as you say Obama is handsome, well-spoken, intelligent, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:51 PM
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That's bc oversleeping can make you feel more tired/sluggish. The 7 hour sleep you got the 2nd night was well more than enough on its own esp bc you got 12 hours the previous night. 5-6 hours isn't enough for most people, but a couple nights won't hurt; make it a habit and you'll def feel it catching up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:05 PM
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It is a trainwreck and trainwrecks are very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:55 PM
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When I say they can get anyone I don't mean they can literally get any woman. Obviously there are young women who would never be okay with middle aged men no matter how rich. I'm saying there are enough young women who would be down for it not to matter. It could be 5% (it's not this low) of young hot women in the world simply open to it, that's more than enough. This before we consider there are plenty of hot women above 25 and the percentage open to this type of dating dynamic only increases w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:49 PM
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Me all day. And when things start to progress and go well I'll self sabotage. Better to fuck it up myself than have it fuck up later or spend a lot of time worrying about it fucking up. At least I'll be in control of the fuckup.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:47 PM
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Women do it when they are on bad terms with their BF emotionally or feel lacking. Obviously if their BF is fulfilling their emotional needs they're much less likely to use their friends or other men. And not all women/people keep in healthy and regular touch with their family or relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:44 PM
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I also believe contrary to what a lot of blackpillers say Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg being the richest men in the world could have done a lot better too lookswise despite not being physical chads but maybe at that point you know you can get basically anyone (of any looks level) bc of your $ and status so you actually do start valuing personality, connection and common vision more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:42 PM
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My entire body and brain needs a reset.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:41 PM
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Oh. I meant specifically how long did it take you to get over it b/c I'm going on a couple months.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:39 PM
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How long did it last? The message I"m getting is my symptoms won't get away unless I fix my anxiety and I'm trying to avoid SSRIs but I might have to bite the bullet/pill at least for a little bit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:31 PM
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Everyone says it's common which I'm sure it is, but in my case it's making my GERD so bad at night b/c I keep burping, sorry TMI
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:00 PM
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does your stomach seem to make extra acid or gas when you're anxious
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:56 PM
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I didn't know there was a difference. That's even more surprising then considering the things I've read on other subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:52 PM
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I wonder if mods are selective then b/c I've seen and heard far worse here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:39 PM
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"When a woman catches you cheating on her, you better pray she breaks up with you. If she doesn't, if she just says 'let's work it out', that's when the punishment begins" loosely paraphrasing Chris Rock
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:02 PM
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You too? Why do the most seemingly innocuous posters keep getting banned or suspended
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:54 PM
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Why do you keep getting banned? Have I just coincidentally missed all of your fucked up comments b/c I never see any
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:53 PM
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From the other hand, a lot of users here just want to troll. rage bait or spew their vitriol. Men calling women names or describing them as all evil on Earth can't really expect any empathy towards themselves besides "I'm sorry you turned out this way". How many men who regularly post here fit this description aside from the BMI guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:57 AM
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I mean whether or not they decide to pay for it, the point is they are or feel they are at a point where that's the only way they would get any sex. A lot of men who have problems dating struggle b/c of things like autism, bad social skills, trauma, lack of emotional intelligence, and such. These same things don't hurt women nearly as much in the dating scene due to many reasons. That's where the need for understanding comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:40 AM
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That's the point....there's none of those types of men here. Almost all the guys here are awkward 20- somethings with a smattering of older men who like to lecture the young men. On that note I don't see anything inherently wrong if the young woman consents and agrees to the exchange and provided it's legal. I feel like this isn't related to the subject matter of the comment you were responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:08 AM
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You're the first person with an actual answer, DJ Qualls qualifies enough. I'll be the first to say men are not the best judge of what is attractive to women. There was actually an article highlighting the difference between what men and women thought the opp sex would like vs the reality and it was pretty interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:05 AM
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Prevalence and effort have nothing to do with it. It's even rarer and harder for women to achieve a muscular ripped physique and I'm def not checking for that ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:02 AM
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Muscles helps average men more than goodlooking men. Goodlooking guys go from 85 to 100. Average guys go from almost 0 to 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:54 PM
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To an extent yes. All I'm saying is when I see an attractive woman or a bangin body how much effort she puts in to maintaining it is the furthest thing from my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:43 PM
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I think a lot of men just want understanding and acknowledgment. Something a lot of people on this sub, let alone society, are unwilling to provide. Instead you get strawmen like "To all the men here who want govt-provided bangmaids:"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:34 PM
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legit rap is an embarrassment nowadays, i tried to get into it with no success just had to turn it off
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:31 PM
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Naw it just looks good. No woman is looking at a man with an attractive face and going "I dunno tho, he didn't earn that."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:29 PM
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For many men esp young men it's achievable well within a year. When I say athletic I'm talking less about actual function and more just having an overall toned musculature. There are tons of jacked bodybuilders who aren't actually "athletic" either despite being able to lift heavy amounts of weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:24 PM
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I know, just trying to keep other men out of the know. Less competition that way ykwim
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:17 PM
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Maybe to impress other men who have lifting as a primary hobby. In order to acquire the lean and athletic physique attractive to women takes a lot less time and ofc requires zero illegal supps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:13 PM
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oh no, anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:08 PM
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I don't follow. Why do you assume people who tell you to hit the gym think getting results is easy and takes no time?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:06 PM
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Longer noses on men are supposed to be more attractive. I find when blackpillers shit on long midfaces they are very inconsistent. They'll harp on the midface for ugly men but dickride male models with long midfaces all day long. Then you call them out on it and they're like "that's not a long midface" xD
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:55 PM
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If your preferences are backed by problematic or biased, discriminatory, racist or sexist socialization many would say it's something that needs to be fixed. If your preferences are backed by entitlement or societal inequalities, many would say it's something that needs to be fixed. If you're one of those hardliners who says "I want what I want", then whatever. I just think it's interesting people have zero problem changing ways of problematic thinking until it comes to their own preferences. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:18 PM
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There are different ideas of what is harmonious depending on the person. For some by default a nose that is proportionately larger than the norm or rest of their features is by default disharmonious, but I never thought that until I was told to think so. The nose is esp interesting to me because there are features that are considered more attractive if they are slightly larger (cheekbones, eyes, lips, chin or jaw for men) but others not so much like ears or nose, but I naturally grew up drawn to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:15 PM
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As far as my experiences go it's a no, even though I hear some people might fall more toward the middle of the spectrum eg be more likely to be bicurious and women are even more sexually fluid in general. I'm not saying the powers of socialization toward preferences are limitless if that's what you're getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:09 PM
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Yes, bc most men find most women fuckable if she's reasonably young and healthy and isn't huge. For a select portion of men all they need is a crease or a hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:05 PM
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He's conventionally pleasant looking, he just has a lot of premature wrinkles due to not being 20 anymore and probably hasn't worn sun protection a single day in his life. A lot of people underrating him to no surprise, but I get it about the gun thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:03 PM
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This is actually a perfect example of the diff between male and female attractiveness. Brb just be a normal potato-faced wholesome looking asian girl and you'll get all types of men saying 'tbh she's super cute'. The same would never happen in a million yrs to her male counterpart.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:01 PM
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i dunno, there are certain universally objectively attractive traits like symmetry or skin quality sure, but I think there's an argument that their appreciation for different types of beauty is better than say the korean narrow kpop ideal or hence why all the top celebs look the same my personal belief is it's natural to be attracted to a variety of types b/c i grew up sheltered and found myself hot for different ppl but after being more exposed to mainstream media my standards started getting m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:50 PM
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6 overall, 6.5 for his age. If he was fit when he was younger he was probably a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:48 PM
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Also googled Hayato Sumino. He looks fine despite having kinda froggy eyes...but it kinda goes downhill when he smiles. But I know in Japan an unconventional smile with imperfectly straight teeth to a degree is considered charming if not attractive even.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:43 PM
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That's fair, but that just means you value other things over looks when choosing a partner. I'm more asking for examples of people with actually unconventional or weird preferences. You're saying you don't mind an unconventional guy who's kinda weird looking if he's a musician, that's the difference I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:35 PM
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Zero fucks given to what people think, I could be ugly as shit doesn't matter I'm not going to rate a 5 a 7 just b/c I'm a 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:33 PM
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If you say he's above average, that doesn't really prove that you have unconventional preferences even if you think you're better looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:32 PM
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There's this idea that our way of thinking is heavily dictated by sociopolitical norms or trends and there is the need for campaigns and public service announcements and efforts to modify these norms so that they are no longer problematic, racist, sexist, ableist etc. Somehow all this shuts down when it comes to dating preferences, then they become untouchable, "well it's their preference, what are you gonna do?" "attraction isn't negotiable" as if all these exist in a vacuum and people's prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:28 PM
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No racist absolutely but it's not a surprise socially awkward men online straight up overrate asian women like crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:20 PM
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Also the women in this sub: "The men here only want Stacy."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:12 PM
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The par for the course is for people to complain about conventional beauty standards and all that, while still largely adhering to these standards themselves and drowning in their own hypocrisy. Is there anyone here who dislikes conventional standards who can show me an example of what they're really into that isn't conventional? And by that I don't mean "Oh I don't like conventionally hot guys" and then show a picture of a pretty emo boy or goodlooking guy who doesn't happen to be ripped.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:12 PM
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Women say that about dadbods. They say they like dadbods but honestly what woman in the world has ever rejected a man b/c "oh he's a little bit too fit/athletic for me, he doesn't have that little pudge I like" unless he's a fucking roided out orc?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:06 PM
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It's a constant back and forth, how attractive you are is gauged by the tastes of most people But a lot of people have terrible taste and actually cannot rate/judge looks for shit What u gonna do I know women who simp for men thinking they are the hottest shit b/c they have trendy hair and clothes, I wonder if they even notice the face
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:12 PM
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Was it from posting 'where the fat wimmen at' on twoxchromosomes they probably didn't know u were being genuine and meant it as a compliment
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:01 PM
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You come to value the mental benefits as much as the physical benefits over time. The stress relief and endorphins.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:47 PM
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I've felt that ever since I was a kid, and I didn't know why that was. Like why do I feel so bad or alone or vulnerable, and it had nothing to do with guilt. Then later on I read that it releases chemicals in your brain that are meant to make you feel good afterward, which further confuses me eg serotonin dopamine prolactin oxytocin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:46 PM
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It's like lifting for men. Women in general do appreciate a fit, toned or muscled body but to an extent. If they go overboard, they are just impressing their gym buddies and guy friends. Men do take some things for granted like women doing their hair, makeup - eg the guy thinking a woman is barefaced when she's obviously got some makeup on - but they aren't going to care about all the other extra things or smaller details women will obsess over - at that point it's just to feel like they belong …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:43 PM
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This is a low-hanging fruit answer, but as long as walmart couples exist sex will never be solely a high-class luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:38 PM
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Truly peak irony coming from you LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:22 PM
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I asked why you posted it, you responded untruthfully. The reason is you just want to bash men bc none of your reasoning makes sense. If you are just being nasty for no reason on the daily chat why are you surprised if I or anyone responds negatively? I'm just wasting my time here talking to a crazy woman so go ahead and have the last word.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:20 PM
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Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:16 PM
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Is there an idea that single mothers are worse parents than single fathers? I wonder if it's because single mothers are the majority of single parent cases but in the more uncommon cases where it's a single father he's more likely to be a "good" father with financial resources - bc otherwise he might not have ever been awarded custody. Vs single mothers, who are either more likely to be given custody or more likely to have the father abandon them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:03 PM
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Yeah cry that people are telling you your daily musings are batshit delusional and consistent with mental illness. You comment, we respond, that's how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:56 PM
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This sub is literally filled with men complaining about women's high standards. So who is your target audience? It's nobody, you just want to shit on men, that's literally all it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:54 PM
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If people are okay with dating "more average looking" people b/c they are nice, then they don't have high looks standards. If a lot of men thought women were willing to date them for their personality (he's not hot but I'll date him b/c he's nice), then why would there be so many men complaining? Your statements contradict each other constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:50 PM
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I don't know how the bans work tbh you're straight up one of the nicest dudes here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:47 PM
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Obviously you think they are if 1) looks matter a lot and 2) a woman's idea of what is attractive would "upset" men. Following your logic, how much do looks actually matter if "everyone settles" "esp if they're nice". Like I said, you're all over the place and will just say whatever feels good to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:41 PM
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I thought you said women's standards aren't rigid?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:38 PM
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She's a full grown adult but I'm guessing some type of social development problem but I am trying to tone down the casual autism remarks for personal growth goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:36 PM
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smh smh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:33 PM
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If someone (the person I was talking to) believes most average people have no problem dating, it's weird for that same person to comment with something implying most men fall short of women's high physical standards and more likely they just wanted to bash men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:31 PM
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ofc you'd say that, bc as far as debating goes you're the walking definition of wanting to have your cake and eat it too "men are ugly!' 'but they are wrong about too many entitled women thinking men are ugly bc that's mean' am i talking to a 12 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:29 PM
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They didn't know it. They know it now. Everyone here knows it. So why'd you initially post?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:21 PM
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Like a lot of women here you seesaw between two things: "Ofc looks matter, are you stupid?" "Oh boy, if you knew the physical standards women have for men, you'd be very upset." and "It's your personality 100%. Touch grass outside, so many mediocre or ugly men in relationships walking around. Women's standards aren't stringent or rigid."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:19 PM
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...Do you think the men here (or elsewhere) are somehow in the dark about what women find conventionally attractive? Is it a secret somehow? Or did you just wake up and post the first thing that came into your head b/c you need your man-bashing fix for the day? I know you don't believe the own things you write b/c you spend time complaining and arguing with the men who talk about how high women's standards are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:11 PM
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She wants to enjoy a "gotcha" for men implying they have no idea that women have extremely high physical standards while somehow railing against the men here who have been saying women have high entitled standards the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:07 PM
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But it really can't, and the angle you take literally seems to vary by the moment depending on what feels good for you,. You're all over the place. Unconventional men under 6 feet can be attractive to many women, but at the same time men have no idea how high and stringent the physical standards women have of men are? Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:59 PM
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Just sayin more BS to pad the BS b/c it feels good to say it. If they didn't struggle heavily with dating to begin with why would they deteriorate to that point? So what are the original reasons, bc even if they get there they didn't start out like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:51 PM
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You call it delusional b/c you're either crazy or never ever go outside or both. I never said "not being fat" is the only way a woman can be desired. The point is a woman can be desired by many men by a lot of ways, no matter how unconventional they look, but I think you just either made a typo or worded it incorrectly. Not being fat is one of the most common ways a woman can be deemed automatically attractive by many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:48 PM
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So 86% of the men struggling here are secretly basically threatening rape in all caps to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:41 PM
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You just being purposely blase or dense or what? Women just need to not be fat, and even if they're fat there's a market for that too. It has nothing to do with "many people have unconventional features". Entirely irrelevant and not the point. Bc women can have all the unconventional features in the world and still have a higher SMV than a man with conventional features.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:39 PM
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....Yeah you got any proof of this? Or even something that suggests there might be proof? It's convenient and comforting I know to say men who struggle with dating are just the most neckbeardy and ugly spergs who act literally insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:36 PM
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Height is the perfect example b/c there's absolutely nothing short men can do about it besides very invasive surgery with all sorts of possible complications. Meanwhile the vast majority of women with some effort are sufficiently attractive to many men. Their attractiveness does not hinge on as many immutable characteristics as it does for men. And if you have gauged the general opinion here of men at all it's actually that women are very brutally honest about male beauty standards thru their ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:33 PM
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Right. For the majority of women, they won't necessarily date an incarcerated criminal but they definitely absolutely are open to dating a guy with a rebellious streak or reputation, no matter how goody-two-shoes these women may seem. It's about the brain weighing the balance between the attraction and the pragmatic consequences, obviously dating a felon is going to come with a lot of caveats. I always say women like a guy to just be enough of a bad boy to not get arrested or with minimal social…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:24 PM
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Lucky for you one of the hallmarks of aging assuming you aren't fat is you do get really bony and frail. But that's like...old old. 75 plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:17 AM
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I know for men it's kinda different, but I'm just highlighting the contrast between how I looked and was perceived when I was 20 vs now. A lot of it is my own doing, got lazy let myself go, but I don't lament about how the past was so much better and now I'm not pulling as much etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:15 AM
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Maybe slightly hyperbolic, but it's like a man at a buffet who only wants foie gras telling a starving man with bread crumbs they have it equally tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:10 AM
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I used to be a lot more fit and attractive at 20, now I'm 27 and I don't know if I can ever be fit again even tho I've succeeded in losing a lot of weight. I did well with women back then. I'm not bitter things are shittier now, it being my fault aside. I'm glad and happy it happened. I have my memories, people get older and look worse, that's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:08 AM
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"If women hit the wall and youth is so important to their SMV what do you expect women to do after 40?" Um I dunno. What do you expect most men to do when most men will have a lower SMV than most women throughout most of their lives even after a woman's SMV starts going down?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:00 AM
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Indian men are potentially close enough. Esp the lighter skinned they are. A lot of it is subconscious but having the caucasian facial features is key. That's why it doesn't work as well for black or asian dudes, not saying they can't be attractive, but that's not what tall dark and handsome was coined for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:56 AM
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Scams in general are effective b/c even if they are obviously scams you just need like 1 in 1000 people to fall for it and you know how smart the average person is to begin with anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:32 AM
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Ofc, it's a traditional european ideal and it refers to like mediterranean or swarthy looking caucasians which is why caucasian-looking latino men slay so hard in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:29 AM
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What McDonalds are you going to, I wanna go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:54 PM
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makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:02 PM
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Is it a secret or advantage if everyone tries to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:00 PM
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That's what I was curious about
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:47 PM
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Absolutely. 5'9 110 just seems to be pushing it. That sounds more like the dimensions of a model who lives on a diet of a cigarettes and mineral water every day and feels faint if they walk too fast, not someone in the peak physical condition of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:39 PM
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This shift isn't new, the discussions on this sub just recycle subject matter because it's different people posting and you see the path of the debate just repeats itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:30 PM
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Some of the competing female boxers in the olympics are like 5'9" 110 lbs. I guess it's fine if you're fighting someone with similar dimensions and body composition but even if you're elite and pure muscle how do you generate any sufficient power or am I just a weak out-of-shape american. Difficult to see how you would stand a chance in a real fight although I know that's not the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:29 PM
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I have so many complaints about american women and yet I love them the most, they are the most attractive to me. My best bet is probably a very traditional sweet girl from the south who happens to not be fat. Yeah I know it's probably rare and competition will be rough. Maybe i'll look out in the sticks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:04 PM
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They just want the whole system to come crashing down. A lot of these people are just edgelord teenagers or people with absolutely nothing to lose from having accomplished nothing. They think complete and utter chaos would be cool b/c fuck it they are degenerate goblins.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:56 PM
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People like to say "the market has spoken" and pretend like 80/20 or inflated self-worth and entitlement aren't endemic to the me-first ADHD culture we have here. Fairly certain if most men were neckbeard trash you wouldn't tell a woman she's shooting out of her league for wanting someone with basic hygiene. You'd tell the men to do better, there would be entire campaigns of shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:56 PM
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It's one thing if it's a 3/10 landing an 8 in another country. The much more common situation is a man who is unable to land his looksmatch in his own modern western nation - not necessarily bc of his looks alone, maybe other things like social skills, finances etc. being able to do better with less money in another country. Alongside another big component of PPB being the women having more traditional non-western or progressive values which PPB says is the reason for their femininity and lack o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:55 PM
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I agree in part but in a sense putting your own purpose above all else ironically feeds into this type of runaway individualism we have going on in our society. What is inherently wrong if, instead of prioritizing your own purpose, you instead simply seek to be among a community of like-minded people you connect well with and care about? Or to seek these people out individually? I'm not saying this is better, just saying one isn't necessarily better than the other. But the reason why you may fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:20 AM
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Overall it's true because we live in a world that encourages individualism and self-centeredness alongside low attention spans. Therefore once someone is no longer your coworker unless they are an exceptional case and you go out of your way to stay in touch you're likely to just drift away over time bc we find it too inconvenient to keep contact. Everyone is immersed in their own problems and goals and sees other people as supplementary or accessories. I don't think any of this is evidence or re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:22 AM
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I would say I originally met my best friends through convenience or "existing a certain way" like having the same classes or attending the same clubs with the same hobbies but over time you grow attached to their personalities and just how they are as humans. You develop a dynamic and sense of chemistry or connection that is unique only between you and that person. Ofc you can grow apart once the convenience disappears eg if you go off to different colleges but the good thing about guy friendshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:28 AM
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Not that unpopular of an opinion. Many people will agree social media is a net negative but also can't stop using it at the same time. Like me. Even much of the internet is a net negative. All the afforded convenience and access to valuable information is overshadowed by the sheer amount of bad information and straight up lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:12 AM
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Never said they were equal, I have my own opinion on this, just saying this place is predictable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:11 AM
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I was going to say Kelly Rowland, but she's "only" in her 40s so looking good isn't as "impressive" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:47 AM
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Also Gabrielle Union she's 51. She's actually more attractive now than when she was in her 20s or 30s to me, I find that to be the case with people who naturally carry a lot of babyfat in young adulthood, face thins out and becomes more defined, at the age when regular people start to look haggard or hollow cryptkeeper-like these people just look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:26 AM
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Kamala looks like she's 60 though. Which is fine, nothing wrong with that. Bassett I swear looked like mid to late 30s when she was in her late 50s, and we're talking POC late 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:16 AM
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Which is still an amazing thing, a decent solid SMV until you are basically close to 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:08 AM
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Being able to look good/decent up to 60 doesn't mean this is where the wall is. The wall is where her SMV drops sharply and she can't get the commitment from the men she used to when she was younger. Although yea i'd agree the wall hits significantly later for POC women assuming they take care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:07 AM
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Angela Bassett at 60, phew. I mean she was never my type but I'm talking pure aging quality/genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:06 AM
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It's more like women will forever resent men if they are less than them so it won't ever work. Even if they somehow stay together. I for one don't care how much she makes, she could be a billionaire or a retail worker but there's zero chance a billionaire or even millionaire woman would date me. I could have model looks, doesn't matter, I'm too low-class/status for them. It's not like there aren't rich guys who are also goodlooking or funny, these women have zero reason to look below their tiers…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:04 AM
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Always two there are, a master and an apprentice. Darth BMI, if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:59 PM
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I'm not going to assume the best of anyone here but the reality is more often than not these types of spaces, incel or pill-adjacent spaces etc are filled with actually decent looking people with extreme BDD and mental illness. Makes sense. B/c these are the types of people who will work on their looks the most. People who don't even think about any of the pills or scoff at them are not going to care. They are more likely to be fat and unkempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:25 PM
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I always think I am more right-leaning than the reality. Obviously the accuracy of online quizzes is debatable but I always end up with results that are slightly left. Part of it may be how much farther left conventional political views have gotten in the mainstream so in contrast I view myself as more conservative than I actually am.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:18 PM
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As long as you have your own concrete views and stances. Many self-identified centrists are just people who get off on their sense of superiority shitting on any side.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:58 PM
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In general, is it something up with my settings or why are some comments on reddit minimized? I previously thought these were just heavily downvoted comments but that doesn't seem to be the case [anymore].
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:56 PM
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You don’t see it too much towards male men tf are you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:43 PM
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Very certain she either used to or still does. They are all like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:32 PM
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I mean it's not even about getting women anymore or tactics to win women over or get laid. It's just how much they suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:00 PM
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Even if everything is about women in TRP, why is every video about how women suck or how modern women are fucked up? It's not even that I completely disagree, it's again just like why is it EVERY SINGLE video.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:57 PM
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If it was supposed to be anything different then it would be something else. Regardless of what you or I think, things/campaigns/PSAs can definitely start out one way and turn into another bc of people jumping on the bandwagon to make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:54 PM
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What's the context? Why would he be saying to a random woman 'scuse me ngl i get no hoes'
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:49 PM
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Even RP men can agree most RP content is grifting trash nowadays. YT manosphere vids are 99.9% hating women and 0.1% self improvement and making men's lives richer, happier, more productive. Criticizing women definitely has its place, don't get me wrong, but why is it literally all of it on every single channel?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:47 PM
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If they thought you were joking, which again it's hard to tell, they would just ignore it instead of responding. Again bottom line being your takes are usually so batshit they just assume you're serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:39 PM
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Depending on what is convenient, men have low standards so it's not women's fault they have it easier in dating, or men chase only Stacy so they are hypocrites when complaining about female hypergamy and entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:28 PM
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It's hard to tell with you since you have these provoking takes, joke vs whether you're actually serious, not always clear
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:22 PM
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I feel like the coolest kids are like that one small gap between gen x and millennial or at least there isn't much to make fun of them for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:14 PM
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i don't even know what that's about, except that they are obviously moustaches i'm young millennial maybe i just missed that boat...although if it was actually a big deal i would've heard about them i think
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:56 PM
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the mustache thing? you mean hipsters? those are still around, the gen z scenester ironic emo whatever alt type is just a lite version of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:54 PM
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All it takes is a single joke about a guy not getting laid to prove you wrong. And there is an ocean of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:52 PM
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of course they're cringier, people are more cool when young then they become out-of-touch parents
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:50 PM
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This is how it's going to go here. The women will say 'men settle too'. The men will say 'the difference is women settle b/c they hit the wall after chasing chad in their youth, men settle b/c they have little to no options'
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:48 PM
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It's again not about the actual event(s). If anything in your life, either acutely or gradually has led you to decreased function or crippling mental illness, you've probably experienced [significant] trauma, although some perspective and comparison to those who have had it "worse" than you is maybe healthy as long as it doesn't lead to excessive guilt or self-hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:42 AM
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Then you probably have endured at least some trauma in your life
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:34 AM
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Trauma isn't about the actual event(s), it's about how your brain and body processes it. The same thing can traumatize one person and barely faze another. If you're hypersensitive even things that aren't a big deal to most people can be traumatizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:30 AM
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I would also argue looks is a bar everyone has to pass regardless of how smart or rich or charismatic they are, but it's not an especially high bar i.e. "yeah sure he's cute I suppose" is sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:28 AM
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it's sad that emotional stability needs to be mentioned much less high priority but there are so many fucked up people out there
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:18 AM
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Would you agree then as a general rule given the same RMV the women are usually more attractive than the men? Therefore a man isn't shooting out of his league if the woman is like 1-2 points higher on the looks scale if he has other qualities like financial stability, humor, charisma, etc. Clearly if you are finding someone to "show off" there are disparities, like your partner being better looking, richer, having a higher paying job or career, some sort of status indicator. It's just funny we t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:26 PM
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What am I coping with exactly? LOL I have no stake in whether or not this is true, but it matches my observations and I tell it like I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:36 PM
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So basically your league is people with the same RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:24 PM
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Obviously male attention means a lot. Women may not consciously want direct interaction much less dating with mediocre or unattractive men but in the context of pure numbers they want to be desired by many men. Women need/want attention and men want respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:01 PM
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Do the cops there work harder if the victims are men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:39 PM
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Unless you're in a swing state it's not going to be your fault no matter how you vote or if you vote at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:38 PM
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I don't get why you vehemently think talking about a specific partner happens but that talking about men in generalities doesn't happen. The latter happens way more often from what I've seen. It's like we live on different planets.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:28 PM
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I feel you might be in the minority then in keeping it all to yourself for the most part. At the very least, even if women complaining about dating men with other women is not "the norm" it's not at all uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:19 PM
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You don't think women ever sit around complaining about how men are in relationships with their girlfriends? I feel like it's so common it's a cultural trope almost. Obviously they talk about their specific partners but also in generalities as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:11 PM
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You can read people like a book. Less than a month ago and actually for the last 4 years people forgot Harris even existed and now she's a savior, beacon of light, brilliance and strength, just b/c they hate the alternative. Same deal with Biden throughout his presidency. Rinse and repeat. I could set my clock to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:00 PM
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It's my opinion that you can't necessarily draw a clean line that separates women complaining about men as just people vs as potential partners. I'll chalk it up to different experiences, but even if you've never/rarely experienced it shouldn't sound too farfetched to imagine there are a lot of women out there who just go "Why do men _____________" with an inferred relationship context. I would reference many tiktok reels of women complaining about dating, but I'm not going to equate that with r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:53 PM
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Both. I've heard a lot of women complain or make disparaging remarks about men re: dating, and just in general. I honestly have not heard men do the same. Maybe once, a long time ago, but the guy was belligerent and blatantly sexist and racist. Maybe it depends on the area or culture of the city you live. It's like night and day places like PPD are nothing like what I observe IRL, and real talk it's probably for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:47 PM
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You honestly don't think women complain as much as men do currently as is, despite having an advantage in dating? I have yet to hear a man complain about the dating market IRL, but have definitely heard women complain about men, so I wonder if you're just seeing the comments from men in places like this and other online corners that are very self-selected. I can't imagine what it would be like if 80% of men suddenly became exponentially worse in terms of what I would hear from women around the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:43 PM
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It was there plain as day in a comment below. "Life isn't fair" but also "You get exactly what your level is."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:23 PM
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Average men online are attracting nobody. Their league isn't nobody. It's more complex than that, tbf a lot of these guys need to learn social skills and get out there and away from the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:18 PM
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There is a common template of dialogue here and it's people telling struggling men "Your league is what you attract". When average men protest that all they are getting is fat toxic women the response is an unforgiving "The market has spoken, that is your level." Somehow I don't think if most men turned into neckbeard rapists overnight we'd be telling 80% of women their level is a fat dinosaur chicken nugget eating sack of shit living in mom's basement who doesn't care about consent b/c "the mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:56 PM
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So what you're saying is, the majority of men will not get exactly what their level is. These days like half of all people actively trying to date use OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:44 PM
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The bad part isn't necessarily placing a premium on succeeding with women, it's shaming struggling men for being obsessed with sex or "scoring" i.e. 'sex is just sex', lecturing men about toxic masculinity, while making virgin jokes about the men they disagree with or dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:39 PM
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Lowest calorie breakfast, just black coffee maybe with some oat milk and splenda if I really want something added, if I want to eat something a couple soft-boiled eggs or an apple. Maybe a few strips of turkey bacon but I'm not really a fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:12 PM
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You can explain away attractive people doing well b/c they're attractive. You can't explain away average men on OLD getting zero matches without going beyond simple maxims and platitudes bc there's obviously more going on. Clearly an 8/10's level is high. On the other hand an average man's level is not zero. I don't understand the point of these hardlining "Tough love/tell it like it is" comments. You can say it just b/c you want to say it, doesn't mean it has any substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:56 PM
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Honestly despicable. You are knowingly wasting that person's time, energy, money, and potentially jeopardizing their health. It's actually difficult for me to find select groups of people I hate more aside from the obvious like rapists or murderers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:53 AM
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That man truly does it all
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:13 PM
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It amazes me naturopaths or even say acupuncturists are allowed to practice when there is literally zero direct evidence that they work. I don't know how the laws work exactly, but I guess it's not to different from people being allowed to sell products or supplements claiming health benefits with disclaimers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:50 PM
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I'll check it out. I'm looking into emotional awareness and expression therapy as well as it's related to how stress and tension creates physical sometimes chronic symptoms if the roots are not addressed,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:34 PM
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I've heard the 4B movement is vastly overblown and almost nobody in korea cares or knows about it aside from maybe a few thousand people. Anybody in the know have any input?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:47 PM
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rent free in ur head i love it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:41 PM
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stay toxic queen
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:39 PM
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lol mad and unhinged
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:36 PM
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To quote someone else, just bc i don't respond doesn't mean you're right. I increasingly use the dailychat just to bullshit bc honestly the discussions here are increasingly trash and I don't bother engaging further with people who are too far gone. Like yourself basically. Toodles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:35 PM
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There really isn't any need to go so hard with me on this. Men and women simply have different struggles and experiences, the same way I'm not dismissive when my female friends don't want to walk 5 blocks alone at night when I do it regularly. You just looking for a fight or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:07 PM
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FML looking up YT videos on how to fix stomach problems or issues from stress or anxiety. Video spends all this time talking about how modern or trad medicine is wrong and misses things and promotes all these alternative methods and views. Then at the end the disclaimer is like this is not medical advice, if you are truly concerned please see a doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:58 PM
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Yeah I didn't like the thought of doing it. And? If my friends were more understanding they wouldn't have just been so one-note and brief about it. Btw I don't necessarily blame them. Like I said most girls/women really do see it as that straightforward b/c that's all they see when guys ask them out instead of everything else involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:50 PM
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No, but it's a vast oversimplification and neglects the thought process and countless factors and contemplation it takes to get to the point of asking if you're an insecure kid with bad social skills. My friends just assumed I can just do it with no problem which shows either they don't know me, don't care, or are just very simple minded and unaware, probably b/c as women they never had to think about things like that from the other end.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:42 PM
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i might check it out, seems to be pretty damn hard these days to find a good movie or show
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:11 PM
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Okay then, my bad. Like I was saying even if she didn't find the first guy attractive or found him ugly that type of behavior isn't actually typical of women IRL that i've seen. If anything being flustered or avoiding eye contact is more a possibility if a woman finds him attractive but doesn't want to show it or provide any validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:09 PM
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ofc, there's no pressure for you to post anything, but they were asking as if a lot of people have seen a lot of pictures of the women here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:57 PM
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yea i'm just reveling in my BDD let me have that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:38 PM
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She's obviously more enthusiastic in the 2nd video but it's also weird she avoids eye contact in the first. Most women don't necessarily do that unless they're uncomfortable or flustered and he's not THAT ugly so I dunno what's going on unless he creeped her out somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:30 PM
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I remember in h/s I would be talking to female friends about my one-itis of the month and they'd just be like "so are u gonna ask her out or what?" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:28 PM
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u callin my fat ass out?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:17 PM
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Maybe I haven't seen enough photos but tbh unattractive people posting are rare, even if only ugly people are less likely to post pics. Ofc there are random pictures of ugly people but they aren't put on the internet in the context of a redditor showing himself on a sub like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:10 PM
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Women: "What have YOU done to help other men? It's not women's responsibility" Also women: "It is crucial that men play a role as allies if feminism is to continue to make progress"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:09 PM
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that's cool but i still haven't seen it, nor have i seen other women. If the men are any indication the women are probably also relatively normal to decent looking here but mentally fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:05 PM
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i've seen zero photos of anyone, can't imagine anyone would be able to be qualified to answer unless they've seen a lot of photos of a lot of women here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:04 PM
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You can't use her as an answer if she's never posted a picture. Nothing against her and I get along with BV just fine but come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:00 PM
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Did you actually read his post or did you only read the title and immediately scramble to disagree in the hope of internet points? You already know the answer. This is why I take no one seriously here and just use the dailychat for bullshitting now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:55 PM
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We're like a couple of bougie moms blocking up the aisle with our giant double-baby strollers like major assholes on a sunday at wholefoods and other assholes are trying to get to the cayenne pepper but we're just in the way bullshitting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:14 PM
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I miscalculated. Oat milk is actually calorie-wise around the same as nonfat milk, so it's creamier tasting than half-and-half but somehow the kcal of nonfat, so I imagine oat has the same amount of carbs and a lower glycemix index than nonfat even b/c nonfat has zero fat to slow absorption. But yeah almond overall has even less of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:01 PM
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i like oat, honestly tastes somehow creamier than half-and-half with usually even a little less kcal than whole milk
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:48 PM
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I imagine a lot of these guys are shut-ins and don't have the most thriving social lives to begin with so that's probably why. Probably have few friends to begin with and any "female friends" are just women they are orbiting poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:45 PM
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i honestly don't see the point, the calorie difference between nonfat and some-fat or full-fat is negligible unless you drink a lot of milk. Yes 8 oz is 90 vs 150 at most but it's still only 60 and if you drink a big glass it's just 120 or whatever,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:43 PM
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So is the reason why bi-men are popular among gay men is they are usually often straight presenting men open to sex with gay men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:04 PM
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I don't trust female ratings. My friend rated Henry Cavill a 7 and then later got upset her bf rated her a 6. Then I said 'oh so you think you're on Henry Cavill's level and she goes "well, I duno about that.."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:58 PM
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One of the very few times redditors come out on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:39 PM
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Which is interesting b/c if their politics were so important to them to the point where it would cause a significant rift in their LTR or marriage you'd think they would have been more conscious in vetting when upon first meeting or the initial period.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:14 PM
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Makes sense, tho I've also read articles talking about how a lot of gay men aren't able to shake the idea of wanting to fit in or be associated with straight men due to past discrimination and ongoing internalized hatred or disapproval. The straight guy in a way represents something unattainable not just sexually but also identity-wise, an identity many probably felt lifelong pressure to conform toward.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:10 PM
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Men probably tend to lean right more than women but oddly enough I've seen quite a few conservative couples where the guy is conservative and the woman is even more staunchly entrenched to the point of being even less willing to compromise. I think this might be b/c if you're going to sack up with a conservative guy there's a bigger chance the woman is right alongside him or have even more extreme hardlining stances on things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:50 PM
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It's more like they're saying people in online spaces like this one are quick to be like "haha you fucking autist". I'm guilty of it myself, but in defense I've lost count of how many times I've read something people write here and just be baffled at the whatthefuck and then later they say "well I'm autistic but..." then it all makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:47 PM
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Yeah there's something about being bi or straight that attracts gay men, probably a forbidden fruit or at least harder-to-get idea that makes it more alluring but ofc with straight men they find attractive there is probably zero chance for obvious reasons. Makes sense also bi-men are more attracted to feminine men as their tastes probably lie more in the middle of the spectrum eg androgynous looking ppl
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:40 PM
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pm me a pic of your face with your eyes smeared out or something, i don't believe you are sub 6 although yes hair makes a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:33 PM
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standard korean royalty procedure to switch accts every few years
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:15 PM
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https://i.redd.it/eyv6o39pogfd1.jpeg daily reminder to just slav-maxx
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:13 PM
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Yes, similar. But height is completely out of one's control. Weight loss and fitness isn't, even if it's harder for some than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:56 PM
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If you're 6'3 and you lift and have a good body your face just needs to be a 6 to be gigachad tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:38 PM
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Yet more proof face is overrated. Most tall guys who slay with women are decent looking enough but they wouldn't be shit if they were 5'7.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:28 PM
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Nobody said friendships are substitutes for romantic relationships. The people who told you to make more friends are saying it's easier to get into a romantic relationship organically or voluntarily if you already have a robust social circle and a network of platonic yet meaningful connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:24 PM
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If it's a blue-pilled song it's nothing different from every other pop song hitting the airwaves for the past forever years with the exception of hip-hop and rap but not rnb.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:23 PM
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her name is ariana u can say it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:18 PM
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Are men not doing that anymore? I feel like there are more trad-minded men than trad-minded women in the modern west.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:16 PM
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Yeah i mean why do you think the rebels have their own version of events still and stand by it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:15 PM
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I'm not entirely sure gen z is less traumatized. They may objectively speaking be more coddled and have more access to convenience and technology than any other previous generation but trauma is how how the body and brain responds versus the actual events. Maybe in creating a "weaker" generation we've also created people who become hyperreactive and hypersensitive to things that would have been deemed less serious or a big deal in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:09 PM
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Yet if I say the same thing about women it's not socially acceptable, suddenly my experiences aren't valid, and I'm being problematic and "misogynistic" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:07 PM
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What would you say then are the traits of someone with too little trauma?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:32 PM
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Thanks for the comprehensive response, but at the same time I can't help but think a lot of these can just apply to anyone, not just older people. I can think of many instances with gen z exhibiting these behaviors. But I would agree/say trauma also knows no generational barriers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:29 PM
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Yeah JBW is legit I'm just saying I doubt her anecdote is representative of the norm heightwise, as she was trying to make the point that not all women go for chad but most men being 5'8-5'10 at a party assuming everyone there is youngish is pretty unbelievable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:22 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean. If anything white guys on average are definitely going to be taller than 5'8-5'10 nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:18 PM
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A common response/inference here is that women are excused from being deceptive and lecturing men on being respectful and toxic masculinity (not even getting into social or legal consequences) while giving it up for chad with zero requirements b/c men should know better. "If you didn't grow up knowing this you're stupid." Somehow this same lenience isn't afforded to manipulative lying men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:15 PM
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Maybe it's the area I live but it can't be that special..I can't imagine any circle even a small(er) one where the guys are all between 5'8 and 5'10. I'm 6' and statistically above average but get routinely heightmogged, I would almost say it's very common despite not "the majority".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:10 PM
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Tangent, but what would you say are the signs of someone with too much trauma ie what are the traits exhibited by older people like millennials, gen x and boomers?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:07 PM
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Some, not a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:47 PM
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I mean a lot of people waste time doing things just because. They know there are more productive things they could be doing but also a lot of guys here I imagine think trying to date or meet ppl is pointless or at least are going through their own issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:03 AM
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I don't think anyone is on PPD with the primary purpose of dating or meeting someone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:53 AM
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that means nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:36 AM
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a lot of gay guys/friends are like that, i dunno why a lot of straight dudes are annoyed by the constant overhang of joking that they could turn you gay at any time or that you could be gay if you wanted but it doesn't bother me too much
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:35 AM
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Yeah that's what I hear. I also recently learned most gay male couples have open relationships. Or at least a significant amount. Was not aware. Hard to make those work without emerging hurt feelings of hostility or jealousy I imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:13 AM
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I agree with most of your comment but it makes too much sense for a lot of the people here,
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:12 AM
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The whole women can't be in the wrong since whatever they do is the result of living under patriarchy spiel. Whatever happened to "men are also victims of the patriarchy"? They only bring that up when it's convenient, otherwise the everyday man is still a target.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:05 AM
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but it's true the misogynistic misogynist is misogyny mississauga
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:02 AM
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I would not bother (but I guess it's too late). She throws out the word misogyny like candy so she's obviously one of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:56 AM
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You must not know many men. As per your original comment, most men in actuality do not hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:56 AM
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lololol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:55 AM
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It holds true for a lot of guys for sure, including myself. It's nothing sexual, simply an acknowledgment like wow 1) gay guys have it a lot easier or 2) men are just so much simpler and easier to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:54 AM
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The advice for LTR is to just keep doing what you are doing when you were just meeting her or trying to get casual sex. Problem is at least to me it's not sustainable or appealing to do it long term or indefinitely in a relationship context.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:25 AM
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I dunno. Contrary to everything I portray myself as I seem to actually have a personality a lotta people like IRL. Might be hard to find someone to like who you are naturally but the alternative is unbearable. Either stay single or stick to casual if you're going to just use RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:40 AM
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I read this in an aussie accent and it sounded happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:33 AM
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The LTR aspect is where the redpill falls short. RP is about putting on an act basically to infer high status and value. And it works fine if you're looking for something short or casual. Once you're in a relationship it's basically maintaining frame, playing a role and a balancing act indefinitely and it's exhausting unless that type of persona comes naturally to you already, in which case you would have never needed rp. If I had a choice of doing this under pressure every day or her dumping me…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:29 AM
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not triggered, i like arguing about anything
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:26 AM
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i meant east asian also do east asian women diaspora not outmarry or date white men in large numbers proportionally speaking compared to other disaporas of different race/ethnicities?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:27 AM
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then why is the outmarriage rate among overseas-born asian women so high and so many of them date or marry white men at disproportional rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:58 AM
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I know but it's funny she posts something clearly to mock a group and then you call her out on it and she's like 'whu i'm not mocking anyone you do what you want it's ur lyfe"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:49 AM
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A lot of it is up to taste but Fox is like 1.3x more attractive to me not 100x. Although who said the two were comparable in the first place? Sweeney just happens to be the "it" girl at the moment and it's just a matter of time before someone else takes her spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:24 PM
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yea no argument here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:16 PM
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If you date or marry a shallow woman despite fitting all her shallow standards she's never going to truly love you just what you represent or provide in money or status. Also bc she is inherently shallow instead of one to learn to appreciate someone's character she will constantly be on the lookout for other men who fit those standards or fit them even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:06 PM
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Seems like you just want to shit on PPBs since you don't say the same thing about men in general, even asian men, marrying asian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:02 PM
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Bernie Sanders here once again asking for an example of a man completely serious on PPD saying women should be obligated to date men they feel no attraction to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:41 PM
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You're going to get banned from this sub possibly in the next hour so I guess just say whatever u want until then
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:17 AM
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Yeah see it's hard for me to read you say things like "the fucking blacks" and then wonder why you and your like-minded friends are not having success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:14 AM
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LOl I'm not going to deny that your women are white-worshipping but the men are too and from everything I've observed both of your genders are fairly successful. I've always felt Indian people have assimilated a lot better and easier into the western white mainstream than other groups, either because they are more proactive about it or for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:12 AM
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Do you live in a redneck town? Most urban centers in the US with fairly liberal populations have large demos of women open to dating indian men. Components of indian culture are also popular like yoga or cuisine - not that it always says anything - and phenotypically speaking with the exception of caucasian-passing hispanics a lot of indian men fit the white standard the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:07 AM
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Well-adjusted indian men do very very well with white women comparatively to men of other non-white groups. I'm concluding all these memes about indian men being repulsive are the fresh off the boat weird ones with bad hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:02 AM
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You can just google it and you'll be taken to the entrances of many subs, forums, grifting or monetized YT videos and channels, and other rabbitholes. I'm not sure I'd recommend going down any of them in good conscience, but general overall things like basic skincare and grooming, choosing a style of hair and dress that works, making sure your face has definition and angles assuming you're a man etc. No need to delve too deeply into things bc online communities are infested with neurodivergent i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:01 AM
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If she's around my age (27) I'd say around 4 max. Although that's just what I would want preferentially, I'm not saying anyone with more than that at 27 is a hoe or overly promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:48 AM
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Are there men here who consider 1-2 an unacceptable bodycount? Maybe the real weirdos who insist on virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:43 AM
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The brutal pill is that gaining status and money is probably even harder than improving your looks to the point of being sufficiently physically attractive to many if not most women. If you're autistic, traumatized, or grew up in a dysfunctional broken home with little means, you can still level up your looks, not as easily with other traits. Most men are not inherently ugly. With the exception of men who are exceptionally short the amount of guys who won't benefit significantly from looksmaxxin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:40 AM
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Could be like some people have said here that the women who are the type to go through many partners are also the type least able or interested in forming meaningful bonds. Which is another way to conclude that if you're into anything serious you should avoid women with high body counts. There's a chance the one you've found is different, but why take the risk?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:33 AM
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When we say certain degrees are useless we don't necessarily mean the subject matter has no value, more like pragmatically speaking you are less likely to find a job that pays well enough to be worth the tuition or debt bc of competition or demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:12 AM
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sex is something you would rather have vs going to the gym but that's b/c usually sex isn't something anyone can always have at any time, as a man anyway still it doesn't beat the post-workout feeling where you actually feel accomplished and in a good spot with yourself and your goals....although that might change as soon as the next hour lol as a man anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:24 PM
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I asked why there was this stereotype that people into polygamy tended to be ugly. Got no answer to I googled and the best I got was people who tend to be on the fringe and subscribe to unconventional norms like polygamy also tend to look unconventional b/c they tend to be deviant in all criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:48 PM
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where do u live where a guy like that looks old for 32?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:41 PM
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It's all related. It's obviously bullshit and never surprising that they don't hold themselves to the standards and preferences they are pushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:40 PM
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it's the hypocrisy, like liberal or leftist women criticizing beauty standards and norms, eschewing masculinity labeling it toxic while clearly still being attracted and going for conventionally attractive, masculine men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:27 PM
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Whatever difference to me is negligible, I feel the same way when europeans who can't stop giving their worthless 0.02 about america chime in with how fat or stupid america is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:53 PM
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Very photoshopped and completely out of my league obviously, but it's hard to imagine a more beautiful woman as far as I'm concerned and I have no idea who that is. It's always the nameless random ones Alright well to be shallow I googled her other pics and her face seems a bit too small or pinched so maybe it's just this pic brb elbows too pointy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:21 PM
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He easily looks better than most men in their early 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:10 PM
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Cue "oh my god why didn't i think of that?" gif
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:08 PM
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Come on man, even if what you say is true in no way would you predict he would be batting zero after 3 years. Something else is going on. Also lightskin men by default is its own niche, maybe even more since niche implies a small amount of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:04 PM
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There are guys worse than him with cute gfs. Honestly either his situation/location is especially bad or there's something else we don't know. For sure it's not his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:01 PM
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it's not a matter of liking or not liking it i'm argumentative and pick up on people's lapses in logic you're just another one
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:51 PM
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....lol if you say it's b/c in America the average guy just looks "uglier" why wouldn't you just attribute my words to me being American instead of going for the irresistible default "u just dun like what i said'?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:44 PM
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How can he be a sub-4 when he looks like literally anyone you would see at a Home Depot on a Sunday? It's not that he's ugly. You just think anyone you wouldn't date is ugly and there is the delusion/disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:26 PM
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Not goodlooking doesn't mean not average? By definition average isn't godlooking and you said he's ugly. You're just telling on yourself and confirming that you think everyday people are ugly just b/c you wouldn't consider dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:14 PM
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Just further proof people have no idea what average looks like. Like you said he's bang on average and yet people would either find him invisible or repulsive b/c they are just have eyes for people they would potentially date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:13 PM
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if you're at least in the UMC guys who look like that are par for the course finances, stability, status and establishment matter a lot more in the upper echelons and looks, assuming baseline decency, matter a lot less
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:10 PM
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Most men would simp for someone under the right circumstances, most men have a breaking point or price, it just depends on where that point is lol. I would say a man who doesn't simp under most conditions and with most women is good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:06 PM
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if simp men are severely outnumbering non-simp men then saying men in general aren't aware is accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:05 PM
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you should like who/what you like and not give a fuck what anyone else thinks my own tastes changed quite drastically over the years b/c of media or peer pressure and i'm just now reverting back to appreciating what I did originally
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:56 PM
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yup
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:49 PM
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nothing, just curious probably b/c you were like 'can he be chadlite'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:48 PM
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in your post i know you said you're a gay dude
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:44 PM
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the wall doesn't mean women can't get sex from men after 30-35 the wall simply means there's a huge decrease in the quality of man a woman can get for commitment when compared to her 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:42 PM
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is the guy in the photo you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:39 PM
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I can say overall right-wingers are worse but somehow I find the left-wingers more viscerally repulsive. Something about always being on a high horse and insisting on being in other people's business while being unable to uphold their own standards. It's just more infuriating bc of the whininess and hypocrisy that produces a synergistic effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:37 PM
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Average everything but he seems to have great symmetry just take the symmetry pill
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:34 PM
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Old men who like to play hardlining boomer and "tell the young'uns how it is" tough love bootstraps all that and reminisce about their good ol days slaying as young men xDxD
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:28 PM
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I'm not sure you understand what a person in the bottom 5% looks like lol. I would actually challenge you to find a photo posted of one of these chronic complainers online over the past decade who is actually even below average. Most of them look like normal people. You can ofc always fall back on "Well the really ugly ones aren't going to post their pictures".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:22 PM
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Average doesn't mean pretty. Unless you mean a face that is attractive b/c it resembles the cumulative average of a lot of faces, which actually isn't common or "average" paradoxically. That's her. Aside from slightly wideset googly eyes which kinda add to her appeal. I would say she isn't strikingly or esp pretty b/c usually these faces are average with some deviant positive features that stand out. But she's not mid or anything, guys online just like to shit on her or downplay just because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:16 PM
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off their rocker? are you 70
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:09 PM
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Proof that it's not necessarily easier to date as a woman than as a man. Or proof that transitioning isn't always bad. Not saying I necessarily agree but I'm guessing that is the train of thought there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:08 PM
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After a scan none of these links even "kind of" directly support what you're saying aside from the first one talking about results from a random survey. I won't hold my breath but show me where any of this insinuates most single young men are single b/c they are playing the field or have multiple sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:58 PM
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Link to these stats showing most single men under 30 are single by choice b/c they are pulling different puss on the reg?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:45 PM
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What's your point? The dude was originally saying these men are a select group of losers when it's literally the majority of men under 30. Now he wants to say that a lot of these single men under 30 are actually playing the field so he doesn't have to backpedal on his select group of losers premise. Just LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:41 PM
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The majority of men complaining and struggling and propping up the lonely men's movement are under 30. When you see documentaries about single male loneliness, they are largely talking about men under 30. Also the men here on this sub who talk about struggling with dating, are mostly under 30. Which tracks, since the highest percentage of single men is in the under 30 demo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:34 PM
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Over 60% of men under 30 are single, and most of the men complaining are under 30, so where are you getting this idea it's a select group of losers, unless you just think the majority of men are losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:24 PM
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What I mean is if you aren't around any high status, rich, or charismatic people you're more likely to think looks matter most above all. Or even socially competent. I feel a lot of people who say they are socially competent yet still struggle are not actually socially competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:17 PM
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That's why I think a lot of people say looks matter above all. It seems that way to them because the people around them don't really have a chance at status or finances or even charisma. When you get into the UMC you'll see status and career matter a lot, dare I say even more than looks assuming the guy looks good enough and isn't ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:52 AM
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Dating in 20s: He is ideally tall, goodlooking face, rich, diversified stock portfolio, devoted and loving, intelligent and charismatic with great sense of humor Dating in 30s: Well I guess technically he was never convicted, and the pizza hut is a very convenient work location for him just a few blocks away
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:33 AM
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Yeah, I'm just referring to the typical defense against women having entitled high standards with "no, it's just that men have low standards/will fuck anything".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:09 AM
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I'm just pointing out it can't go both ways. Men can't have really low standards and agree to fuck anything while having super high standards out of their league so they can't find anyone willing to fuck them at the same time. At least it doesn't work as an explanation for why women have it so much easier in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:42 AM
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TIL 21m virgin beta male PPD posters do more cool things and have better lives than I do IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:33 AM
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When men complain that women have it easier in dating and the retorting narrative is bc men have low standards, the narrative basically admits and infers that men have it harder b/c women are all going for the top men. It is these top men who are the ones with the low standards with the ability to sleep with many women regularly via numbers game. To top it all off it's the incels and men who struggle with dating often accused e.g. here on PPD for having high standards or being super picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:26 AM
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A lot, if not most of these incels are also under 30. I don't think it's too much to ask for a 20-something guy to want a 20-something woman with a low-ish bodycount. Obviously some take it too far with the virgin fantasy but low body count doesn't imply low sex drive, just a woman who isn't promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:18 AM
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So the men who are "settling" for women who bring nothing to the table aren't really settling b/c they tend to be manwhores able to sleep with multiple women on a routine basis. Re: screaming incels, I don't know, what is your evidence if even anecdotal that they are super picky? If the men struggling in dating here on this sub are any indication it does not seem like their standards are abnormally high the way they speak fondly of the women in their social circles they are either considering or…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:30 AM
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So I know you're not necessarily the one saying this, but to set the record straight all the women (or men) saying guys are delusional and only going for 8+/10 stacys are wrong, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:27 AM
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Being fat or chubby is definitely less attractive to most people but healthwise I'm still not that convinced it's so bad for you unless your BMI is well over 30. You hear about it being a risk for all these chronic diseases and metabolic complications but I don't see a lot of fat people dying in their 50s or 60s, the overall lifespan is still in the 70s.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:13 AM
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A lot of people do that just to live in a big city. If they're young esp they're all about "gathering experiences". They'll learn/change eventually as long as it doesn't completely destroy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:55 AM
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A lot of attractive women also have surprisingly low self esteem. You'd think in this age of social media validation this wouldn't be the case, but it's almost like these women are brought up to think their looks are all they have and so they hold on to it and obsess or feel insecure about the littlest things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:19 AM
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yes a multipronged approach is best appeal to her niche and also complement her needs and wants by deduction using social and emotional intellligence to maximize SMV of woman you can get
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:11 AM
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I don't remember saying this. Do other men say this here? I'm gonna need receipts for this too, won't hold my breath
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:10 AM
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it's ok if you can't looksmog you can always statusmog or moneymog
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:02 AM
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you need to find a hot girl who's into your niche so even if you're a 6 she thinks you're an 8 because she likes jocks/goths/alt guys/asians/insert stereotypical male archetype here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:00 AM
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Maybe take a tip from the femcel playbook "The ugly ones also have bad personalities like the hot ones, might as well go for the hot ones" J/k don't do that. B/c that's being shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:59 AM
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Still waiting on receipts of the modern men here or anywhere only going after 10s Meanwhile random everyday men swiping on everyone still getting no matches continue to ask reddit daily what they're doing wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:58 AM
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.....Men do value friendships...they just aren't a replacement for romantic or sexual relationships...? Men also struggle a lot more in dating than they do making friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:38 AM
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So would you say most americans (easily a third) who experience GERD from things like coffee or chocolate, spicy or citrusy stuff actually are doing so b/c of their previously bad diets, not b/c of the actual foods themselves Although I don't remember experiencing this when I was drinking coffee with lots of sugar and cream and lots of chocolate candy or cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:30 PM
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Can you give us examples of these so-called RP men demanding the truth from women who give polite rejections? I don't recall seeing much of this if at all and also don't see the incentive for these men to do so. At that point they already know she's not interested and RP men for the most part see attraction as non-negotiable in that moment anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:28 PM
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I'm 27. Obviously maybe too young for the long-term complications, but still overall I keep hearing how eating better is supposed to make you feel better and such. And GERD isn't necessarily an argument against that, I just noticed the irony that the past few months I've felt not that great. I'm sure stress doesn't help either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:17 PM
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Are you saying if I had a better gut biome then tomatoes and citrus fruits and other acidic but otherwise healthy foods wouldn't give me GERD?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:04 PM
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Where is the evidence that porn has ruined men's expectations when there is daily evidence on this sub that even the weird neurodivergent terminally online men on here most likely to have pornstars on the brain just seem to want a girl they vibe with as they use the dailychat as almost a journaling space about their dating experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:45 PM
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I'm sure processed and refined shit does harm like makes you gain unhealthy fat and then all the downstream metabolic complications but sometimes I wonder if it's actually better than whole foods then for GI health. What's the point of insoluble fiber if it actually clogs you up and slows motility rather than moving things along? i.e. "Is fiber a psy-op?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:43 PM
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I mean it obviously isn't, it just makes me chuckle bitterly and realize how gray things are instead of processed = bad and eat clean and whole = automatic good
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:37 PM
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Just gotta laugh at the absurdity of things sometimes. Ate like complete shit, sat my fat ass around doing zilch and felt fine for years. Started eating more fruits, salads, veggies and working out and now I've had like acid reflux/GERD and burping for the past few months, and they tell me to watch out when exercising and cut back on tomatoes and citrus fruits and even fiber for bloating. And coffee ?? Which I fucking love and take without any cream or sugar. When I was eating twinkies and slurp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:32 PM
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I have plenty of experience, how old are u?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:09 AM
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I would disagree that people just are friends with others to use them. I don't see my friends that way...although I will admit everyone is naturally selfish and caught up in their own shit so they can definitely tend to neglect or lose touch with them. Hopefully as is the trope with guy friends it doesn't take much to reconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:50 AM
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I'm probably biased, but honestly I don't think if a man asked a similar question here the answers from women would be nearly as understanding or helpful. There would be a lot more "well blame biology" answers and answers that just divert toward how women have it just as bad or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:38 AM
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Except none of the comments have been mean. I can't believe I'm saying this but sometimes the male posters here deserve a bit more credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:30 AM
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Except none of the comments have been mean. I can't believe I'm saying this but maybe give a little bit more credit to the male posters here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:29 AM
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Yeah I'm just saying women still have it easier than men even as they hit the wall or lose attractiveness. A lot of people seem to have a problem with this idea and call it misogynist or incel thinking. Like women are basically always going to have it easier, what more do they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:21 AM
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It also just has to be reiterated that women lose their desireability as they age but still have a higher SMV than their male counterparts up until like 50. The advantage is just not as gigantic, instead of having a huge leg up it's just a leg up, and there are still people who react to this idea of decreasing female SMV with outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:21 AM
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it's a great time killer i agree also why i don't believe it when people say they don't have time for ___________________ myself included
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:18 AM
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But that would work or at least up his chances incredibly though. If he fucks it up it's going to be due to other things but that doesn't discredit RP. The important thing is that the alternative is the bluepill telling these men to just try being nicer or more persistent...in being nice and doing nice things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:16 AM
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I mean what do women want unattractive men to do? Nobody cares about the unfortunate circumstances of others in the dating race.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:13 AM
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That sounds like some Slumdog Millionaire shit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:02 AM
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Only way to go on this sub is to not take it too seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:01 AM
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can't come up with ur own answer it's ok
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:54 AM
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If I like the woman I'll love the dress no matter what. If I don't, it'll be just a dress.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:51 AM
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lol you can't seem to make up your mind whether the RP is full of grifting bullshit or truths everyone should've learned in grade school don't worry u aint alone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:48 AM
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I don't follow. How does this negate anything I said? The vast majority of women I know also don't do OnlyFans.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:41 AM
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The RP simply teaches that confident high status powerful preselected men are attractive to women as an alternative to all the men being told the reason they're struggling is b/c they aren't respectful or nice or good enough listeners. As long as this holds true it doesn't matter how successful people on a sub that attracts weirdos are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:40 AM
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So the RP isn't wrong. Even assuming you're right the RP is repackaged truths for lost stupid horny men. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:33 AM
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Ah, so we are pulling out the "duh if you didn't know this growing up you're stupid" card. to that all I can say is...well so you're not saying they're wrong then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:28 AM
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Not even getting into the facial expressions or angles, it's pretty safe to say if you take more than a few photos in outfits leaving almost nothing to the imagination it's more than just "existing with tits."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:24 AM
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Truths like women like confidence, men who confer high status, social proof, men who are preselected, men who set themselves apart and above the rest, men who demonstrate emotional intelligence, strength, men who demonstrate a challenge. The opposite of what mainstream bluepill tells men. Was none of this not true before him? Maybe you and I aren't thinking of the same RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:20 AM
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Most women I know don't do OnlyFans, but most women I know who are on instagram have at least a couple photos of them staring alluringly into the camera in a bikini. I would say they aren't sexualizing themselves b/c it's a private or personal page, but at the same time I have a hard time believing they would actually like the idea of guys even in their social circle thinking of them sexually - me for example. They post those pictures knowing everyone who follows them will see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:16 AM
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RP wasn't invented. It's just hard truths repackaged to appeal to lost horny men. In their defense the blue pill and the rest of society aren't willing to feed them these hard truths so...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:12 AM
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Socioeconomic class def plays a huge role, for some upward mobility is impossible, that's why I said the diet and fitness thing is infinitely easier and yet many people don't even bother to stick with it. Also since even getting people to devote to improving their fitness is difficult before we even talk about finances or career which is either much harder or impossible that further supports the fact that the bar moving once more men try to self-improve is fairly moot and not a potential threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:04 PM
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ur forgiven
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:41 PM
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sorry i'm such an asshole for assuming you were speaking more in terms of generalities of being afraid of the opp sex instead of centering around rape or assault eyeroll
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:39 PM
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wasn't trying to compare them or say one was worse than the other i've been assaulted multiple times before and frankly it's the social ostracization and the small things people have done and said that have traumatized me most if we're talking about long lasting effects but i'm not going to go around telling you what is worse and what isn't b/c people are different
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:24 PM
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You would think there would be a lot more fit people then - or at least, following a regular exercise program and a diet of moderation seems a lot easier than getting rich. 70% overweight with 40% clinically obese speaks to the contrary unfortunately. It's not like there are a lot of smart or rich people among the 70%. This before considering a lot of the remaining 30% aren't healthy, they just aren't technically overweight. Fit, rich and smart men are very rare, but it's not that common to find…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:31 AM
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Not only that, most men won't. If you follow a bare bones exercise and diet regimen with any amount of consistency that probably puts you above like 80% of men in that metric bare minimum without even trying anything else. Even 10% more men hopping on the wagon to catch up to you is not going to ever be an issue of concern bc frankly, most people just don't give a shit. They actively know it will make them more attractive and yet they don't care enough to do anything. I imagine it's a similar ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:40 AM
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i definitely am not paranoid of being physically hurt like if the genders were reversed but more like paranoid they'll say or do something that makes me feel embarrassed or self conscious and more depressed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:24 AM
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Am I missing some info, why don't they just wash the sheets?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:23 AM
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are you an alcoholic?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:22 AM
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Which is why I think "your league is what you attract" is oversimplified bullshit. There are millions of factors, social, environmental, situational that may explain why any one person is having trouble or succeeding in attracting people of a certain demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:46 AM
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My opinion is usually much more dismissive and even less helpful. They're either socially stunted or autistic which means even working on their social skills may have limited returns at best. Honestly it's pretty sad and I don't have a clear answer or solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:15 AM
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I don't have any specific examples on hand but every once in a while you'll have a guy on this sub or an incel forum posting their photo and it's always either a normal looking guy or even an attractive one since they are often obsessed with working on their looks. What's uncanny is usually the stare or other clues that they are obviously socially maladjusted. I would say I do not recommend going down these incel rabbitholes for evidence or analysis, the drawbacks far outweight any benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:59 PM
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What the “league” for a woman is are the upper limits of men who are serious about her in quantities that make it easy for her to select a suitable partner from them. This makes sense, so what doesn't make sense is any woman saying average women are struggling as much as average men, who for the most part do not have a group of women of any caliber to select from.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:48 PM
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What's the difference between actually getting with them and me telling them I'm busy when they voiced their interest and asked me out for drinks? I'm still the same guy, in general mega hotties don't ask me out. Just b/c I happened to fit their tastes doesn't change a thing in the grand scheme of things. On the other hand, with men situationships and hookups definitely are more indicative of their league since women have absolutely no reason to look below their own league for hookups. Conversel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:41 PM
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I'm not saying the worst should matter I'm saying it shouldn't be determined by the best. Hell I've had the occasional chance with a mega hottie but I was too self conscious or afraid to act on it. Doesn't make me in the same league, as good as it feels to my ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:29 PM
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There is no 19-21 BMI paradise it's literally just one dude lol. For the record I prefer women on the thinner side as well I wouldn't draw the line at BMI 21 either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:27 PM
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I would think this is the case as well. But people playing devil's advocate for average women here say things like most of women's options are from old weirdos or losers and thus dating is just as hard for them. If this is true, welcome to your league miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:02 PM
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I mean if some people here are to be believed, average women are getting mostly consistent commitment offerings from subpar men, which means that is their league. Again, going by what they say and I'm using their own logic to come to this conclusion. I personally, don't believe average women struggle nearly this much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:01 PM
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For the record I think "market determines your league" is bullshit specifically for these reasons, I'm just putting it in the framework of an average woman's experience instead of the usual context of a man struggling with OLD. Like if an average man on OLD can't get any matches his league is lower than worthless? Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:49 PM
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What you're consistently getting is likely to be the average or close to it. Obviously even a 9/10 is going to get propositioned by many subpar men playing the numbers game. The impression I'm getting from people who say average women have it hard is that most of their options are unimpressive eg older plain men or losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:45 PM
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We're already there. Wdym "if obesity rises". 70% of americans are at least overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:39 PM
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Right, so it's about averages. If some posters here are to be believed about 'average women have it just as bad', most 5/10 women are just getting hit up by older creepy men. The occasional 8s sliding into her DMs with 'wyd' don't count. If she's consistently getting 8s asking to wife her up that's a different story that obviously doesn't apply here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:30 PM
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Why wouldn't it be based on the average instead of the best? The best (or worst) are more likely to be outliers. Every 5 can get an occasional 8 in their DMs then and say their league is an 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:24 PM
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If your market determines your value and league and according to some here average women have it just as hard is the league for 5/10 women middle-aged creeps? Are average women entitled for wanting more than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:16 PM
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Man a lot of you guys have low standards when it comes to aging Or basically everyone. You see all these comments on social media of like a 40 year old who doesn't look absolutely decrepit like "wow she never ages!"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:51 PM
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I got Rebel, but it makes me sound a lot cooler than I really am. More like I do what I want just b/c it's easier and I actually need to be more disciplined or better lol,.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:49 PM
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There exist men of all looks levels who would like to have no-strings-attached sex. Realistically speaking how many 5s are able to do this regularly? Or at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:42 PM
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I still don't get what you meant when you said the original convo was about who enforces beauty standards. Maybe I'm missing something but the original post in this thread was just a screenshot of a tweet saying they hate fat women and then a joke about it being AutomaticMeaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:37 PM
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Enforcing beauty standards isn't the same as hating a certain group and we personally, you and me, are talking about people here hating fat women. I imagine you like fit men, does that translate you to hating non-fit men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:25 PM
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As long as you walk your talk. I disagree that thin being more beautiful is problematic. It's just natural because being overweight is unhealthy. Do your own standards in men also rival conventional thinking? If so, I disagree with your preferences but at least you're consistent. I have a feeling they don't though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:22 PM
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Thin women overall are prettier than fat women. That doesn't mean this sub hates fat women, there are a lot of men here open to dating fat women. There are a select few who actually prefer fat women, yet everyone likes to quote a single poster AutomaticMeaning to make their point. I don't see any comments directly hating on fat women unless it's again, "all a woman needs to do to become top now is just to not be fat." Which is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:17 PM
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Men play the numbers game not [solely] because they are just looking for sex. It's b/c, esp if they're average, their chances increase and they know the chances of success with any one woman is low. I again don't understand the idea about average men having no standards for sex. If she's a 5 I don't get the motivation to jump through hoops for a very short mediocre experience and then jump through more hoops just to ghost or navigate yourself out of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:59 PM
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Women will say this about men they haven't met yet. As in "I'm sure he's just messaging me to use me." How can average men pump and dump when a lot of them are struggling to even find women interested for LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:51 PM
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There's AutomaticMeaning on one side, and then many many men on here who say they are okay with if not preferential for a woman who is on the bigger side.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:48 PM
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She is cute but in a next door way and honestly that is more my type than the fierce looking instagram thots. You can't even see what's real and what's not anyway. Defined cheekbones and face structure are objectively impressive but not necessarily inherently appealing sexually or romantically to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:47 PM
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Just piggybacking off of an interaction I had a little bit ago here: Do 5/10 average women really have a bunch of men who "act interested" in them for an LTR looking to just pump and dump? It just seems like it would be a lot of work and trouble for the guy in the first place. I can't understand the amount of horniness or sex addiction this would require and I'm a guy as horny as the next. Is it possible these women are just finding it convenient to assume these guys are just looking to "use" he…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:35 PM
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You can always just move to a different social circle or meet new people who don't have any idea who you are. That's why being an asshole is so much easier now since you can either move around in a larger city or just go to another space online. Back in tribal days if you fucked up your chances with everyone in your group you were banished or ostracized and had no one to trade with or rely on for basic needs so it was a death sentence basically. Being an asshole badboy is easy and beneficial now…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:27 PM
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a 5/10 man often has no women looking for LTR, looksmatch or not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:14 PM
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I can say the most depraved misogynist/misandric shit but suddenly if I hint that being white gives you an advantage in dating I get a report and a mod saying "no racially charged or race-baiting content." JFL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:09 PM
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i don't know where u live but that's simply not the reality a lot of men would be thrilled here if that was the reality and everyone was able to get their looksmatch
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:03 PM
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Again oversimplification. Someone who is racist is going to be hated and outcast? If only. Not everyone is either an angel or a card-carrying klan member. Depending on who you ask a lot of problems involve women's inflated sense of self worth, feeling entitled to 10s, eurocentric or racist standards, etc. It doesn't matter if you disagree, as long as there are people out there who feel things can and need to change. Nobody is asking to "force" people to be attracted to someone on an individual l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:59 PM
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Sure, nobody said it's fair, but it's important to acknowledge that it isn't fair. Then, depending on what you think, either the fairness is justified or not worth addressing, or that it needs to be fixed and addressed. So it's never as simple as "well your league is what you attract" even though it's convenient for everyone to just say that and hit return send comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:48 PM
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No, it also applies to dating. Women have it much easier getting casual sex but still have it significantly easier in dating. Find me a 5/10 woman who has trouble finding a bf, unless she won't date anyone under a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:45 PM
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I don't agree with the "the market determines your league" stuff because there are many many social and environmental factors involved in addition to supply and demand and trends At the very least, your league doesn't equal your actual value or worth and you might be the victim of discrimination and bias Not to bring race into it but it's really just a simple example, it's why a 5/10 white man will have more options than 5/10 asian man, and his league is "higher". Doesn't mean he's better or tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:41 PM
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Long-winded autistic comment incoming. I said earlier about how bluepillers vehemently denied or laughed at the idea that looks is a big factor just less than 10 years ago but now they act like it's common sense. I still stand by this but also think looks probably have come to matter a lot more in the present day bc of the changing social attitude toward masculinity and what is considered high status. Because status matters first and foremost, all male traits are filtered through the lens of sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:26 PM
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How much of this is b/c women marry men they weren't sufficiently attracted to in the first place but decided to settle b/c of betabuxx benefits?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:08 PM
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doesn't change the fact that women have dating opportunities that rival that of men many points above them in attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:02 PM
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Less than a decade ago "looks matter [significantly]" was mocked constantly by bluepillers and now it's "looks mattering a lot is common sense, if you didn't grow up knowing this you're stupid."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:45 PM
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And yet as long as they are thin there are armies of men who find them sufficiently attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:35 PM
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Despite knowing what sub I'm on, it's just weird you can say and imply the most sexist shit as long as it's worded and framed in a somewhat civilized manner (or not) but anything involving race is banned if reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:30 PM
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It is emotional. How often does it happen compared to women being emotional? That doesn't mean we shouldn't hold men accountable for being violent, it's legally punishable whereas simply being emotional is not. I couldn't care less about hurting a man's feelings, I'm crossing that street So brave.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:27 PM
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bruh i'm not disagreeing with you i'm just explaining what i was told on the racial topic rule here bruh i never said it wasn't inconsistent
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:18 PM
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Not going to deny your experiences, I just wanted to share my observations. Also if we're going by the white standard, indian men facially look more white than asian or black men, they have tan skin which is desired in the west, if they are well assimilated it makes perfect sense to me why they are one of the minority demographics who does esp well in dating comparatively. I honestly think black and (east and southeast) asian guys have it worse, but I've also noticed this entire thing online abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:10 PM
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I don't expect this to help ,but as per my observations it will always help in dating to be a "white guy", but with indian men there is a huge dichotomy between those who are not socially well adjusted or westernized with bad hygiene and creepy demeanors vs the opposite. The indian men born and raised in the west or who have done well assimilating and know how to groom do shockingly well with women. Like to the point it surprises me and I wonder what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:00 PM
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Mods seem to just ban race topics at their own discretion, but you basically can't discuss dating issues without race being somewhat involved in many aspects. But they've deemed it too sensitive of a topic and you can't trust people to not be shitty or immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:58 PM
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There isn't really any overlap when the "who said looks aren't important" is often brought up to support the 80/20 rule that the BPers previously like to deny. "It's your personality" and then "Well ofc women are drawn only to the top men, it's just nature." I'm not entirely invested in the 80/20 rule myself, but the hypocrisy and inconsistency is plain as day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:46 PM
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That's b/c the identity of bluepillers is actually just to disagree with whatever redpillers say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:44 PM
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I feel like I see this happen within families. The girl being very smart and driven and well-adjusted and her brother being kind of weird and slow. It's probably due to them being treated differently, but I'm not sure whether it's parents giving girls more attention b/c of bias or them giving boys more freedom and trusting things are going to turn out fine w/o realizing they need to play a more active role. For the latter it probably also turns into the daughter(s) receiving more attention but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:57 PM
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Nobody here is normal. At best they are weird but not in a bad way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:32 AM
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But the chance of this one guy being the best among 1000s of men in any metric is small. But I think moreso the guy hitched to her is at a disadvantage. She's with him every day, she is likely to be bored at least to some extent. She also sees the worst of him and when he's at his most unattractive bc couples are exposed to each other during their best and worst times. Much easier for her to be enamored or impressed by a new guy in public or in a context where he is always doing his best to impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:38 AM
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You might be reaching a bit. Take a look at the couples around you not all the men are genetic lottery winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:28 AM
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Women want to be equals with men, but also find their male equals invisible or repulsive and want to date, fuck and marry men better than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:23 AM
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What? The premise is you'll end up hating women if you had a bad relationship with your mother or sisters. If your relationship with them was good why would you be a misogynist? It's a premise I don't entirely agree with, but that's what we're talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:59 AM
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Ironically you give misogynists way too much credit for being logical in their feelings. Plenty of men love their moms and feel resentment toward women in general. Granted I'm sure having a bad relationship with your mom increases the chance he'll hate other women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:57 AM
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And you know this about the men here how? As far as I know there are top-percentile earning doctors here complaining about women wanting Chad. I have my own issues with their arguments but you just like assuming everyone here is a broke 20-year old because it's convenient for you. Halo affect again, you assume all these guys with opinions you disagree with are ugly and assholes to everyone IRL with no friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:23 AM
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I don't think women are surprised....they just don't really like it, predictably. tbf watch what they do not what they say is a good rule to follow in general, toward everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:20 AM
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Women are increasingly outearning men, which means their pool of men they'd consider dating or marrying is also shrinking. Regardless of what people say about money not mattering. This is the real hypergamy which involves social status and standing in turn strongly tied to income. Many articles to support this trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:17 AM
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She def does not come across as someone who has had good experiences with men, regardless of who's fault it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:11 AM
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There's no way she's not talking about her sex life with her friends. All her friends know what your dick looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:02 PM
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That resume thing is not a good analogy at all, wtf? Most employers will consider a candidate who fits all their qualifications to be a potential hire plain and simple. Not remotely the same as dating and playing games. Employers might even like how direct the applicant is and how confident he is in saying he's right for the position. Also before we even consider the fact employers know a lot of applicants will fall short on what they are looking for so they'll overstate requirements so even if …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:43 PM
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I straight up forgot she existed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:09 PM
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Well then tell that to the mainstream media and politics who are solely focused on one of those two. The fact that I don't need to say which one and everyone will know which one it is, no matter what side they're on, is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:21 AM
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I think you're reading too much into it or the freud stuff some people are just lazy and take advantage of others
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 06:29 PM
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If u aint attractive how will women know you're abusive? If a woman is entertaining a guy's shitty behavior for any extended period of time he probably is above average in looks or has other things like charisma and status. Women aren't sliding into 5/10 nobody's DMs or interacting with him much less dating or fucking him. Modern women saying all the men they've dated and fucked have been d-bags are just telling on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 06:07 PM
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Or on a related note, pay a woman for sex and it's illegal. Pay a woman for sex and then film it and try to distribute the film for profit and it's all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 06:02 PM
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more just like cooking and cleaning are hassles so pragmatically it's easier if someone else does it for you not saying it's right
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 05:56 PM
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theater kids are fucking unbearable wdym
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 05:55 PM
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it's clear neurodivergence, autism and everything similar hurts men a lot more than women in dating. It's not necessarily your fault tho, either way just be glad you're a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 05:55 PM
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I want to say most people are POC here. Also wdym POC talk hella shit lol no racist a lotta of the time it's justified
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 05:53 PM
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chadrone confirmed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 05:41 PM
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how about silent treatment? I mean I guess it can be a form of emotional abuse that's intentional by women but then they might not realize how much the man actually kinda likes it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:47 PM
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Is it true you're a hot dude with a bad personality. I dunno, I can't see it, you seem right on point with a lot of the things you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:45 PM
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The same way OF and sexual liberation is supposed to be about empowerment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:43 PM
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LOL no. If you go by just the upvotes and downvotes it's clear this place overall still supports and sides with blue-pill and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:41 PM
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It's not just FDS posters but the mainstream that makes it acceptable to group men altogether. How many articles have there been out there in high-profile publications telling men to do better, telling them what they are doing wrong, how they are problematic, misogynist, creepy? Not some men, just men in general? All men? That's what I mean, it's not just select groups of man-hating FDS people. There is no equivalent for large-scale media like this toward women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:40 PM
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I'll agree both sides speak of each other as monoliths often and get upset when the other side does the same thing. However I see it being much more acceptable in the grand scheme of things socially and culturally when one side does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:39 PM
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Classic passive aggressive, as if you had any nice intentions with your previous comment lol Im SoRrY 4 U Basically spending any amount of time on this sub will reveal multiple women saying otherwise, but you don't seem like the type of person to argue in good faith, which means you're in good company here So u right, I don't benefit either by talking to you, good day~
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:37 PM
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So my point is the fuckboi life might be the less stressful and terrible option. The relationship game is becoming less and less worth playing. Even if she "doesn't leave" you're still spending a lot of time and resources with a shallow entitled person addicted to TikTok. If you agree about the undesirable personality traits of most women (and men tbf) in the modern day why would you want to commit to one? And the saving grace being if and when it falls apart you can find a replacement easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:37 AM
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It's funny how women are allowed to talk about men as a monolith, and when you call them out on it it's "Well duhh obviously not all men but enough men that it's a problem, it doesn't need to be said there are exceptions." Ofc we know what happens when men say the same thing about women. Then it's the oppressive patriarch putting them all into a box.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:24 AM
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You're fucked either way unless we fix our tech-enabled cultural propensity toward shallowness and the next best thing always being a click away. If women commit to you b/c you're attractive trust she's got her eye on other attractive men when you're not around. Your good looks can't override lack of morals, loyalty and selfishness disguised as empowerment. You see a woman demanding 6 figures 6-pack 6 feet, why would you want to be with her even if you fit those standards? Shit's going to be mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:12 AM
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Because people are selfish and want to be happy. Also, if feeling guilt or regret or self-hate stopped anyone then you'd see a lot more people choosing to stay single. I don't know why you think this is a man-only thing. I imagine a lot of people have felt this way and still date or marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:25 AM
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Pretty sure for most people, man or woman, the amount of guilt they feel for their past has little to do with whether they seek out relationships. Like completely unrelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:22 AM
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I think women are so used to being given compliments for their looks that over time it becomes meaningless to them. They also know a lot of men will fuck a hole in the wall and hit on women out of desperation or low standards so it's not a sense of validation either, and they also know women hand out compliments on instagram like candy even to their ugly friends. They know this b/c they also do it. It's a sense of grass is greener, I notice a lot of women want to be acknowledged and admired for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:04 AM
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Yet again I don't think women actually care about each other like they say they do. Anyone who has worked with a large number of women in the same space can attest to this. Granted I don't think men give a fuck about each other either but there isn't this illusion of unity or brotherhood to fight some imaginary enemy. I can talk about male suicide rate and how boys are struggling in school all day but I still haven't done anything about it IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:51 AM
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But somehow women aren't denigrating themselves by having sex with a guy in order to secure commitment. The practice is not just normalized in the conventional context but also now with things like situationships, spread it for plate-spinning chad in the hopes eventually he'll come around and choose just her b/c she's so special.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:48 AM
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Okay then why didn't you just say so lol Earlier in another exchange you didn't mention it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:38 AM
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Again, you literally admitted your idea of an average guy is a 7-8/10. So are you just separating yourself and saying you're abnormally picky compared to other women? Bc if other women think like you do then the problem is women's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:29 AM
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People can have a height fetish but height is inherently not a fetish. Women are naturally drawn to tall men, straight up delusional to think it's either/or for them. Countless men with a lifetime of experience and observation report women constantly stating clear preferences for tall men. It's biology, it's common sense, it's apparent and obvious in any environment men and women interact. Saying height is a fetish is like saying liking pretty women is a fetish for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:57 AM
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Really, i'm curious now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:54 AM
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who's meteor man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:32 PM
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I won't ever say short(er) men can't get a date, plenty of 5'8 - 5'10 men dating with little issues because they have qualities, I'm just saying being over 6' and also fit is such a huge leg up. If a guy is average height and cute he'll get interest here and there, if you added a few inches of height and an athletic frame on him he'd be "that guy" every woman whispers about and wants. Sounds aspie like i'm overanalyzing but it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:17 PM
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You aint even facially ugly if I remember correctly. You'll do fine. 6'3" and jacked? That's top percentile easily, no problem at all unless you are socially garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:13 PM
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What a weird hostile response after I simply asked for more elaboration for the sake of discussion. Just sayin, you're in the minority here and other women heavily disagree with you, so there's no reason to take you seriously unless you bring more to the table. But obvi you don't want to b/c you won't "benefit" lol which is fine too. Do what u want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:09 PM
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If he was 5'7" people would be like "Yeah, he's a cutie, hehe." Not in the top 10 male models of all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:05 PM
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There are many women here who say just that, or at least that it's what they look for first before other things. Tbf nobody on here is a good representation of a normal everyday person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:53 PM
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Fuccckkk heightpill and bodypill are so legit. I feel short sometimes even though I'm 6', there are plenty of men taller walking around. But the heightpill doesn't resonate hard b/c I think shorter men can't pull but more like a tall good frame halo's a man so hard. Obvi face matters but you can literally be just whatever in the face and almost be seen as gigachad if you're tall and athletic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:49 PM
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Putting aside my own perspective for the sake of convo, many women here would disagree and say looks is at the very least, a high priority if not among the highest. Would you have any explanations for why women on this sub might say this? Do you think women who prioritize looks over all else have something wrong with them or?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:36 PM
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Doesn't reflect reality in any sense whatsoever, but I don't expect you or any variety of dudes of your ilk to agree. Literally just takes one decent looking 5'8" guy with a cute gf to prove you wrong. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:44 PM
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Face is EVERYTHING, but it won't work if you don't have the right height or a decent body? Read what you typed back to yourself and see if it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:38 PM
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Speaking only for myself I don't even struggle THAT hard with dating and I've noticed myself thinking several times how much easier gay guys have it. It's as far as it goes, I don't know why people read so deep into it so they can make dick or gay jokes/remarks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:26 PM
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I think these are less visual fantasies like imagining taking a big dick and more just rumination on just how much easier dating would be. These men aren't surfing gay porn even in the most private of contexts when indulging these thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:24 PM
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Yeah but it was not remotely as easy. Women now can access hundreds of profiles on OLD in an hour. Back then it was just the 10 or so guys you might have considered in your social circles, if even that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:21 PM
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I can get easily emotionally attached to men and it's nothing sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:20 PM
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Seriously I know you just like to troll and have fun fucking with people or whatever but why do you fall back into the same tired ol "heh if you think so much about how easy it is to be gay maybe you like CoCk" It's just dismissive, it ignores people's actual problems, there are real reasons why incels are so obsessed with male physique and models and it's not b/c they are sexually drawn to it. But I'm probably wasting my time as you know this and are just going to respond with another brief gli…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:12 PM
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I'll say they probably have a lot going on. Social development stunted, BDD, mental issues among many other things. Seems kind of reductive to narrow it down to maybe don't think about how easy it is to be gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:08 PM
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Man you really think these guys are going through dry spells and struggling to get laid b/c they're spending too much time wondering how nice it would be to be gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:05 PM
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Oh ofc Men having standards = "See, men are just as hypergamous as women" Men being ok with women below their standards = "They're just desperate."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:04 PM
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Your argument is men are equally hypergamous, they just settle sooner bc horny? That proves they aren't as hypergamous because they're willing to spend long periods of time or the rest of their lives with someone much less attractive than their ideal. Also I can't speak for other men but I honestly don't think most men are so horny they'll take whatever just to bust a nut regularly. There's so much porn for that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:01 PM
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Just be white is legit. I see this everywhere as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:58 PM
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Not sure exactly what you mean by that but I can assure you there is no actual visceral real attraction to men when men think this (in this context). Not that there's anything wrong with that. But the vast majority of these men who think "man it must be nice to be gay" couldn't turn gay even if they wanted to b/c male sexuality is much more polarized to begin with and not as fluid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:55 PM
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It's not thinking of guys as potential sex partners or actually feeling attraction to them, it's thinking/being attracted to the idea of being gay because dating and getting sex would be so much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:52 PM
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Not nearly to the same level and for a variety of reasons men are much more realistic about their options and act accordingly. Most men don't eliminate anyone who's not a Stacy from their dating pool, just b/c everyone IDEALLY wants a supermodel. 99.5% of men know they're not going to get it and it's not realistic and don't hold out for one. Re: owning it if you agree then why would you speak mockingly of men who think women just want Chad? They're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:51 PM
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The men who think this are the sex starved ones. Gay men have more sex b/c there's no woman involved who is much more picky about having sex. I've never actually wished I was gay but I can see how it's infinitely easier to get attention from gay men who are much more forward about it. If you never had/have trouble getting sex ofc it will never even cross your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:49 PM
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So men aren't wrong in seeing women as hypergamous whores for chad As long as you're owning it *shrug
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:43 PM
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Weren't you the one who posted a picture of a 7/10 and said you unconsciously picture him as average?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:38 PM
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well that settles everything then teenage redditor lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:35 PM
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Theoretically possible, but the chance is one in many trillion. Like the probability of a hurricane going through a scrap heap and a 747 being assembled as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:31 PM
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Tall women, broad shoulders on women (actually dislike narrow shoulders), larger than normal hands and feet on women. I actually find small hands and feet (or in general) on women kinda repulsive and I don't know why. All of this just adds up to there being more woman, although I'm not into fatness or chubbiness. Also long legs, but that's conventional. Still appreciate nice assets and curves though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:46 PM
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Also shows she's more comfortable with herself. Means less awkward interactions and easier cohesion in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:44 PM
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I think men are increasingly coming to see how important her personality is despite being very late to the party. A growing distrust of women which makes them select more for traits that make women seem like they would be loyal and faithful in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:41 PM
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Gross. I've met a lot of women I would've been gaga over but then I saw the long fake nails.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:35 PM
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That't not unconventional though. Unless you're talking about a loud laugh many might find annoying but you find endearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:35 PM
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Also very legit. Social proof and value is king. I would esp agree about personality as long as it's the part of the personality that infers the first two.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:27 PM
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Face is overrated. I talk to a lot of women (ages between 20 and 40) and every once in a while they'll collectively agree a guy is hot and then simp over him. The guy almost always isn't ugly facially sure. But it's usually the height, style, and body that sells him. His face is sufficient, but I see shorter, skinnier (or chubbier) guys with better faces getting overlooked for these tall fit men all the time. Also the guy tends to be not old but also not necessarily young (maybe 30ish), often wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:22 PM
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It can and should go both ways. As bodily autonomy is important nobody is saying women should be forced to have sex with men. At the same time people should recognize sex or the feeling of being desired are very real human needs even if they won't physically die without them. The long-term mental or psychological implications and possible deterioration of health is another story. It's a problem that affects more men than women in modern society. A lot of what men want isn't the government provid…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:49 PM
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Based on the premise that trans-women aren't women. Also as far as I know no trans-woman calls themself a lesbian so that's not relevant. If you don't believe trans-women are women that's another discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:42 PM
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No...I'm saying we aren't afraid of gay men or lesbian women in male-only and female-only spaces, going by that logic why are we afraid of trans-women in woman only spaces?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:34 PM
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Men with goodlooking faces already have a lot of options, if they have a good body they'll have even more options. Men with average faces have very few options. If they have a good body their options become much greater even if overall face matters more. I honestly think a large percentage of women would find a man sufficient lookswise if he had an average face but a good fit body. We can also throw in the probability that the average man's face will look ever so much better if he becomes fit an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:58 AM
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So you actually agree then that binary thinking is basically appropriate because you think this radar is overall effective bar outlying exceptions. I suppose I'd have to disagree. Not just based on the amount of women who did not find out these men were assholes until later on - just today came across a post in another sub where a woman talks about how the men she meets don't show their true colors until later, but also just in general it's not that hard to hide the worst parts of yourself. I'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:21 AM
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What you guys do is say shit like he ain't a real man if he's not tall hot rich and then justify it by saying it's therapy or revenge for being oppressed and victimized. Then you further clean your conscience by saying the shorter uglier poorer men are shit men or that they are just as bad anyway so might as well go for the hot ones. LOL the disingenuity to say the only reason FDS is hated is b/c they tell women not to date shit guys, and not the countless other things they say. Bruh if women ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:10 AM
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The whole entire male population of this sub could be shitty and it'd still comparatively be a few bad apples. I know you all aren't cool with us thinking everyone on FDS represents all women. Oh wait, you actually are on board with that shit so you probably wouldn't mind. I hate misandric gaslighting women. I have plenty of women I care about in my life and women on this sub I get along just fine with. We're not remotely in the same camp analogously. Everything you say is a shot at men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:00 AM
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And it will be ignored since it's clear she generalizes all men by the comparatively small amount of bad apples and will continue to do so. Good on you for taking the high road tho, but couldn't be me here on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:50 AM
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If you've approached you've already shown direct interest. It's especially obvious if it's a complete stranger o someone outside of your circle you don't know well. Not everyone is like my friend who was so naive to think a guy she had never met from a different dept at work asked her to go out on a walk for lunch and she seriously thought maybe he just wanted to be friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:25 AM
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You're way too nice to this person who absolutely does not deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:53 AM
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There are a lot of things I don't understand about people online but the trope of indian men struggling to date is one of special mystery to me. Maybe it's b/c a lot of indian men online are not far removed from india and thus have trouble relating and communicating with western women culturally? Otherwise I see little to nothing about their inherent looks or otherwise that would warrant these stereotypes of indian men crashing and burning. There also seem to be a LOT of indian users on western …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:10 PM
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When women say they don't like muscles they are either lying or they mean the guys who can't fit through doors without turning sideways, something most men couldn't even achieve with hard work or drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:59 PM
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i'm talking about gay men in the male changing room, or say lesbian women in sororities (in reference to the news story of the trans-woman in the sorority) nobody is afraid that gay men are going to creep or SA other men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:50 PM
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Legit. If you're goodlooking then gymmaxxing is going to make you even more successful, but even so the amount of benefit and gain is larger when average looking men begin to lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:48 PM
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CMV contrary to all the "why gymcel there's no gym for your face". Muscles and body help average men a lot more than they help goodlooking men. Men with good faces are going to get women regardless. If they get muscles, fit or a good body it's just going to be a bonus. On the other hand an average faced man will likely get little to nothing without a good body or muscles. If he acquires bodily attractiveness his options will go from 0-2 to a sizeable amount of women even if it's not every woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:44 PM
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Also, as if women can't commit SA on other women? Or gay men on other men. Everyone seems okay with gay and lesbian people in male and female only spaces respectively, not that ultimately even sexuality matters. Isn't the [flawed] tagline that rape is about power and not sex? Rather than the common sense that if often involves both people huddle in their trenches with their absolutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:12 PM
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Maybe I've just been spending too much time on the internet but I feel it's hard to find a leftist who isn't also very pro LGBTQ. This ofc understanding there are a lot of layers to the latter, you can be all for anyone marrying whomever they want but still iffy on the trans issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:57 PM
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More binary thinking: Let's break this down: Intuition is not some perfect measure and no women I know really claim that it is. There are many women here who say they can sniff out misogyny and shitty men upon first meeting, often as a way to tell men it's their personality that is the cause of their dating struggles. Since they mention no caveats, it's fair to interpret they mean their intuition is as perfect or at least reliable as can be bar exceptions. Men address this with binary thinking b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:35 PM
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Do women not force themselves into male spaces to the point where there it's actually hard to find male spaces now? In the modern day male only spaces are seen as exclusive, threatening and problematic while female only spaces are seen as necessary and justifiably empowering.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:30 PM
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I dunno if it's etiquette, you can specify you're editing but I don't think it's necessary or a big deal you aren't defending your dissertation and you shouldn't give a fuck what redditors think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:23 AM
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ok but i'm still curious why
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:30 AM
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I've been eating clean for awhile, avoiding processed foods....honestly aside from weight loss due to overall calorie restriction I am not noticing the increase in energy or overall feeling better that everyone supposedly says happens. It's been a couple years, but I'll keep at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:57 PM
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Accusing people of a ninja edit is what they do when they have no more argument so now they can say you're being dishonest or tricky to win when really edits just happen. Nothing is stopping them from going back and editing their own answers in response to your edits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:55 PM
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It's also the tendency to fixate or overanalyze any situation or subjet matter at the expense of the bigger picture, which is why sometimes they say autism is a condition of hypermasculinization of the brain in relation to the idea that men have more trouble multitasking. That's why a lot of incels and femcels fixate on for example individual facial features and have rating systems that don't reflect real life preferences. Entire communities led by many with autism dedicated to looksmaxxing or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:25 PM
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Since I'm living in a reverse consciousness I actually read cream pie and immediately though of actual pies. This diet is fucking with my head lol maybe I should tone down the calorie restriction and be okay with getting to my goal weight slightly later no harm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:02 PM
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I agree, it's just a convenient way to be dismissive toward people. I kind of get it in that a lot of these people can be very offputting and exasperating, but I suppose it doesn't excuse promoting ignorance toward actual autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:39 PM
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Even if you only consider dating above average men, why do you still picture that as the average man when you consciously know he's above average?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:22 PM
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The more you read things from argumentative people in these pilled spaces eg outspoken blackpillers or femcels the more you realize a lot of them are actually either autistic or severely lacking in social skills. Or traumatized. Like something is very wrong with them. It's not necessarily their fault, but that's beside the point. I guess it's just easy for the brain to group all the weirdos together and call them autistic. I've been guilty of the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:17 PM
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Anyone coming to the slow realization that 95% of things you read online, whether just opinions from random people or content from official sources or experts, is just at absolute best a small misleading part of the picture or pure unadulterated bullshit? I've just been experiencing a greater and greater dichotomy between what I've read and heard people say on the internet vs what is actually true or what happens IRL. It's strangely comforting rather than infuriating, like oh good the earth, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:06 PM
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I mean, probably. You don't want your kid to fucking die.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:50 AM
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the irony
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:33 AM
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LOL the way yall completely lose your shit on this topic is just....x) like just bringing it up strikes all the nerves and sensitive spots at once
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:19 AM
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There's a lot of men who aren't anything to look at who have sex though so that is obviously not true as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:11 AM
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I think if you specify that the quality of women doesn't necessarily need to be high or top and we're including average to slightly above average women then it starts to look even better for the healthy 6/10 extrovert. If we're saying they need to be all high quality options then even women will need to be at least 6/10 if not more to have unlimited options of high quality men if we're not counting random one-off pump and dumps (and I don't feel like we should). If anything she might need to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:59 PM
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Yeah, and I don't believe her because of her current bf and all her past bfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:54 PM
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She may not view me sexually, but I still don't see the point of her comment. Would've been better to not say anything at all or maybe make an neutral comment about how I've been making good progress with my diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:53 PM
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Imagine telling women they're too fat to want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:51 PM
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I mean he doesn't have to be insanely charismatic or high status. He just needs to have decent social skills and tends to be well liked wherever he goes. Which honestly I don't think is that hard? But I don't know. I think a lot of people who congregate online are often the ones who struggle most with social interaction, reading cues and the room and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:35 PM
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Not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:34 PM
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If it's such a simple issue why are you so triggered with the idea of a mandated paternity test? Seems like you just want to talk down to men just because. There are a lot of things that are simple that are put in place to protect people b/c life and all types of circumstances happen and not everyone is smart enough or in the proper state of mind to take all precautions. Also, again, to avoid the potential friction and confrontation between people when someone suspects something. If he's the fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:31 PM
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6/10 with high charisma and social proof is minimum. I'm assuming unlimited dating options doesn't necessarily mean he can literally get or charm any woman, but that he will never ever lack opportunities with attractive viable women as long as he maintains those qualities/stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:32 PM
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So lemme ask again. Do you think the women here are better at drawing equal and fair attention to the worst of female behavior or maybe it's b/c it's again a debate sub where men and women are out for their own interests re: dating? Let me also again clarify, blaming a woman for entertaining a relationship with a guy she knows is an abusive POS in no way implies men can do no wrong - literally the entire point of the blame is that she's with a guy who does a lot of wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:28 PM
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also applies to asia the northern arid desert regions have shit food the more tropical regions with much more fertile land gave way to better cuisine just compare northern vs southern chinese food, no contest japan is also north but it's different b/c they have more diverse topography and get more rainfall which allows for more fertility
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:08 PM
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why'd you give it a nose
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:05 PM
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this is a pilled gender debate sub. Blaming the woman for her bad decisions isn't equal to siding with the abusive guy - they are in fact siding with themselves or the nonabusive men first and foremost with the emphasis being on her bad decisions. In your honest opinion do you think PPD women are better at calling out and holding the worst of women accountable?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:02 PM
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Really depends on the people/tribe. Traditional and maybe even modern eskimo or masai diets are almost entirely meat. It's a pointless back and forth b/c in reality ancient peoples developed their diet in accordance to convenience and availability over time and here we are in modern day trying to bring morality into it. It's like the converse argument that we were never meant to eat large amounts of carbs. Like pretending the largely vegetarian tribes didn't exist and instead of grains or vegeta…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:45 PM
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I feel like chunky but built guys are onliy popular in america bc almost everyone is at least kind of chunky so chunky and built is better than just chubby/fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:32 PM
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Her telling me she liked me better before is a roundabout way of expressing she's happy for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:28 PM
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Seems hard to believe if this was actually her type she wouldn't have had a boyfriend who was that type by now and the reason is b/c her type hasn't approached her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:43 PM
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Still seems like a weird disrespectful and dishonest thing to say. I would assume she'd be happy for me, if she is finding it problematic that I'm actually somewhat physically attractive now it seems like it's her own issue(s) and problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:41 PM
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I guess it just so happens her boyfriend is conventionally attractive and fit, even though her ideal type is a guy with "more to love". I also don't think there are any fat men in her dating history. Occam's razor sometimes the simplest explanation is the most accurate. Your friend's example isn't entirely comparable, he probably just traded one type of attractive for another.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:31 PM
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Heh. There does seem to be a whole lot of "Some women like __________. Not me tho hell to the no. But you'll find someone someday I'm sure, you deserve someone special."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:17 PM
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I'm sure these women exist, but her bf isn't that type and nothing she says or does reflects this is her type.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:16 PM
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.......do you not have opinions on how others choose to behave? Nobody lives in a vacuum, established norms affect everyone which is why drugs are illegal even if you are only harming yourself. At the very least, I am concerned at the world my children will be growing up in and its modern values. Sure, feminism will never be satisfied b/c they can't stand that even a minority of men disagree with them despite having an entire international network of media machines pushing their narrative and at…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:11 PM
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I think men are acting too feminine Brutish uncouth masculinity isn't good either but the pendulum is swinging too hard the other way A lot of women sure don't seem to think things are changing for good...feminism has reached many of its goals and they just keep wanting more and still overwhelmingly play victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:05 PM
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Been getting a lot more attention and stares from women since hitting 195 lbs at 6' from 220-225, which you would think isn't that big of a difference. Then my female friend goes "Awww I liked you more when you were a teddy bear". Women, why do you lie to your guy friends like this? Edited in light of some replies: Seriously, where are the women you guys say like bigger men? As in given mostly fit male options, they would proactively choose the fat one? I don't think I've ever met one. Basically…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:02 PM
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Men these days exhibit much more feminine behavior than men just a couple decades ago. If femininity was seriously so looked down upon this wouldn't be happening especially in larger modern cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:58 PM
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I mean, men are a lot more feminine these days esp in modern cities. Doesn't seem like there are a lot of men going 'fuck this'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:57 PM
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.....Men call out their despicable behavior all the time, they also do this indirectly when saying women go for shitty men. The mainstream default is to be critical toward men and tell them they are problematic; most people follow this and this includes most men. Show me where and how the men are siding with the abusive guy here? This is a sub centered around dating, ofc people are going to frame this in a certain context. But since women are so focused on defending themselves it's always mental…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:42 PM
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It goes without saying deadbeats and psychos are not good men. The men complaining about dating here are focusing on how these women tend to gravitate toward or disregard the glaring red flags these men carry. Women here say they can smell misogyny coming off a man upon first meeting and automatically assume men who struggle must be giving off toxic vibes (just world fallacy) when their behavior and choices in men say the opposite. The men complaining about dating struggles are not the men who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:42 PM
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many women here but #notallwomenhere
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:29 PM
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That's going to be a lot of people's logic Conversely there are a lot of people who hate him even more now bc they are reacting to the feeling that he has a better chance of winning the election Getting shot has garnered more negative attention and insults from his detractors than most things he actually said and did
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:28 PM
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But women say they can sniff out misogyny at the drop of a hat?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:25 PM
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Paternity tests should be required simply to protect people and shouldn't be an issue of trust. The same way we have laws protecting people from other things, nobody's complaining we have laws against theft bc we don't trust people not to steal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:20 PM
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These quizzes always show that I am way more left than I think I am. I would've considered myself a right-leaning moderate but it's usually slightly left of the middle and in this quiz I got democratic mainstays. I feel this shows just how far left leaning the zeitgeist has become in the US so comparatively speaking I always feel I'm more right-leaning than I actually am bc I'm constantly disagreeing and feeling aversive toward what is pushed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:41 PM
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And there are programs and media awareness geared to fix obesity. That doesn't mean blaming the individual is weird. Nobody says we shouldn't blame racists or misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:27 AM
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why is that the case? You'd think people who are more attractive and thus have more ability to find sexual or romantic partners would be more okay with polyamory and open relationships b/c they would be the ones benefiting most from it potentially
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:31 AM
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So it's not unfair to criticize most people in this context then, again excluding those with genetic disorders. Bc again this is not on the same level as telling a poor person to just save more and stop spending the $20 they have left over at the end of every month.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:17 AM
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doesn't take into account again all the people in the modern day who were thin until they were around 25
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:13 AM
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I mean we blame people for being racist and sexist or ignorant don't we even though larger overarching forces are at play?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:11 AM
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There are a lot of fat people here in the city...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:10 AM
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tell that to r/1200isplenty
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:09 AM
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Right, so it's very doable. People got time to shitpost on reddit for hours a day but can't find time to move a little?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:04 AM
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Your maintenance calories are increased on days you work out hard. On days you work out hard your extra maintenance calories are the actual workout calories plus the thermal burn plus the recovery burn plus the overall extra basal burn you get from just having a fitter body with more lean mass. Because people don't actually want to be healthy. Its more work, and less pleasurable. There may be other overriding reasons to do so, but most people don't actually care. I agree, it takes work and modif…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:57 AM
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What is the relevance of the twin studies? Most people less than 50 years ago were naturally thin. That means genetically most people have the capacity to be thin or healthy weight. I don't believe there are many people, again aside from those with rare hormonal or genetic disorders, twins or not, who are born predisposed to being fat to the point where it's an inevitability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:54 AM
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People struggling to not have sex and keep losing money on the show Meanwhile me: UNNNLIMITTEDDD POWWWWWERRRRRR
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:52 AM
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I'm guessing a lot of the younger women are saying clean shaven and the older women saying they really appreciate a good beard as long as it's not too much or messy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:35 AM
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So since most men don't have a "great" face or defined face, by default would you say most clean shaven men are just naturally unpleasant if not ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:34 AM
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Agree about the mental health issues, trauma and abuse. Not genetics or disorders though. These exist but are comparatively very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:29 AM
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we're just regular people mfers always out here saying it's not possible, 200% of people who lose weight on a diet end up regaining it etc citing a study done 100 years ago, on 100 people, jfl
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:17 AM
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A good workout is say 500kcal. Then over time you factor in the new lean mass and the metabolic processes required for recovery. So yes, you'd still probably be ok eating those 3 cookies. Although not ideal. If you're trying to be healthy, why hinder your progress with junk? I know on days I work out hard I feel absolutely ravenous and need every extra bite afterward. I disagree when you say the majority of americans living paycheck to paycheck are due to poor decisions or laziness. The logistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:16 AM
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I've stopped overeating. Have you? I think you have. So there's a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:57 PM
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I don't think you can compare reducing screen time, adopting an exercise program, and reducing food intake with money issues which is a whole nother animal. It is WAY harder saving money especially if you're born in low socioeconomic class vs maintaining a healthy weight. I'll probably hit my weight loss goals before the end of the year. On the other hand I don't know if I will ever be able to afford a house. For the record I find non-calorie dense healthy foods more non-satiating. A 600-calorie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:56 PM
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Show me someone who isn't influenced. Ofc you're not satisfied b/c I only held men responsible for some things in their control and other things you disagreed with b/c of your own biases and beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:46 PM
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So crazy that the word incel has made it into everyday language. I still remember when it was only used by the most depraved people in the deepest shitholes of the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:42 PM
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You exercise and work out to tone your body so it becomes more efficient and healthier in all ways. When the body is healthy the chances of obesity or excess body fat are small. It's not about the actual calorie burn during a weight training session or jog. But it's true from a standpoint of just trying to maintain or lose weight, caloric intake matters a lot if not more than exercise. But it's portion size and amount, not the quality of food even though our quality of food is shit. An overweigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:31 PM
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That's true, our perception of what is a sufficient portion size is fucked and the culture isn't helping. We got used to eating more as the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:28 PM
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Our system and environment is fucked but at the same time it's very much within our own control. Life is just too convenient and we get addicted to sitting around on the internet surfing porn, our phones, and shitposting on reddit. I don't think you can just blame the bad food for reasons I already stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:22 PM
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A lot of people blame obesity on govt subsidization of corn syrup, bad urban planning and food deserts, but my observations make me conclude it is almost always lifestyle and being less active and more sedentary even if it's true we live in an obesogenic environment and our diets are not good. Mainly b/c I see most people, in an urban looks-conscious area, are fairly thin or fit up until their mid 20s. Then you see a huge wave of people gaining weight, and you see it not so coincidentally occurs…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:10 PM
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Interesting take I hadn't thought of. You're saying it isn't high body or relationship count that causes lack of pair-bonding, but people who have trouble sticking with one person self-select themselves for going through many partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:42 PM
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I'm not talking about how well they can pull or their ability to fall in love. As you get older you simply get more jaded. Feelings become less novel or strong and you tend to develop a lifestyle or outlook that draws your attention to perceived dangers and red flags. It doesn't all go away but a lot of people simply become more on guard and pessimistic with age - but I'm saying it isn't necessarily directly tied to sex or dating, it happens to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:35 PM
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I wonder if the [loss of] pair-bonding ability with the increase in sexual or romantic partners is just getting sick of people's shit and being more jaded over time. I haven't had many relationships and I already have much less trust in people than just 5 years ago and it's become increasingly appealing to just forego dating altogether based on just watching and listening to people act and talk. Dealing with more people in a relationship or casual sex context probably just speeds up this process…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:29 PM
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I might prefer the AI generated one if her face was slightly more defined/less puffy. I like her eyes and lips. Kruger I used to be enamored with but maybe it just wore off on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:04 PM
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Legit. Unless you count americans being fatter with worse style, scandinavian people on average look like plain white people to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:01 PM
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People want to single out slutshaming or stigma or overemphasis on body count when most of these women don't need to tell anyone anything or reveal their past. Unless it's something like having kids and being a single mother. That's a different story b/c there are real-life tangible implications and consequences should a man decide to date or marry one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:35 PM
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These are broad general concepts literally said by any RPer so attaching Tate's name to this specifically seems like you're just using it for emphasis since he's a high profile polarizing figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:31 PM
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I mean you're right in that women have always been pickier and hypergamous, but it's not like men aren't forced to settle for fat, entitled, promiscuous, or feminist women even if it's not their ideal. I don't think women having it easier in dating changes the validity of the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:23 PM
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I dunno, seems short enough to see if she's someone who places a lot of value on height. Maybe I'll say 5'4 instead. Also when we talk over the phone I should disguise my voice so it sounds like a bridge troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:04 AM
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From my experience, many women do have a more specific type, but she'll make an exception for the chadliest chad even if conventional chads aren't her thing. She may not seek him out on purpose but if he tries his luck he's getting a chance at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:17 AM
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I'll join that club soon hopefully
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:12 AM
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My distrust of women is such that I almost want to stand by an ultimate test as in she has to be okay with being with me forever while thinking that I'm broke and ugly. I'll also lie about my height and say I'm 5'6". If we talk a lot over the phone or messaging and she falls in love with my broke, busted short ass then I might relent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:58 AM
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The most ridiculous thing I've heard on this sub (a very high bar) of the week is the idea that average women struggle just as much as average men and are also invisible. Like if you are floundering in situationships with men both in and out of your league, you have to be pretty friggin visible. The caveat is that it's a lot less likely for a woman to entertain a casual arrangement with a man simply on her level. Does anyone actually know an average woman with no major red flags or personality f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:51 AM
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I agree, that's one of my points
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:27 AM
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What type of fiction? Not fiction geared toward female audiences, that's for sure. I don't even know if it's common in fiction for men. At least the guys are accomplished and probably not ugly. At worst it will be like a tough guy who has an odd feature but still has masculine qualities and competence ie "He had a nose that was the result of generations of resilient rabble-rousing stock, slightly big, projecting and askew but nevertheless set him apart from his peers." He will also for sure be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:23 AM
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That guy straight up looks like a girl though. The only thing that stops me from finding him attractive is knowing it's not a woman and the flat chest being a turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:10 AM
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Yeah that guy looks so much like a woman I have to admit it would fool me IRL if I didn't know better. I would also be fooled to the point where I would actually find them attractive and I am as straight as they come.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:46 PM
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Yeah I was just assuming you had a picture online of a celeb or popular femboy on tiktok or something
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:31 PM
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can you link an example of like your #1 femboy so I can better understand what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:22 PM
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I don't really believe femboys do well with actual straight women. The pictures I've seen of femboys basically are indistinguishable from women. There's no way you go for that aesthetic while being attracted to strictly men. I was referring to how women will say they actually aren't attracted to masculine men when in reality it's either 1) the men they cite as attractive are actually masculine (eg chiseled boyband members) or 2) they aren't straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:09 PM
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Ok so no offense to you, you like what you like, but I always find it kind of weird when women try to comment with the underlying inference that conventional male beauty standards are bunk without also revealing that they aren't straight to begin with. I've had women say this IRL too about how the male gaze is inaccurate b/c they don't find masculinity attractive. Then later they say they are lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:54 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/am-i-a-good-femboy-3-v0-qjorwx8xs65b1.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2000a03c3a8463155f14d2909399ca3efebe11f3 If you're attracted to guys like this, I don't believe you when you say you are straight or attracted to just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:22 PM
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If by commitment you mean obligatory resentful sex every once in a while, resentment in general bc she's not sexually attracted to you, and the daily routine, boredom and misery of a dead relationship, then beta buxx-driven commitment sounds like the opposite of what a man would want. I would honestly rather jerk off for the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:15 PM
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deep af
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:11 PM
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can you elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:04 PM
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Wait you think talking about looks mattering and how unfair life is isn't boring or overdone here?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:57 PM
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What is your idea of an interesting topic on PPD ie not boring bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:49 PM
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women talking about being pumped and dumped and the outrage is made up? I mean I wish it was? tiktok comes from real people also. Again, I wish it wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:37 PM
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I think society at large feels more empathy for women than men, and these cases of women being used for sex (allegedly) def apply. I wonder how many women seek out sex with attractive men, hoping for more, and then blame the man for using her for sex when things don't pan out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:29 PM
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They are strung along by chad or get chad temporarily for ONS or casual situationships if the chad is just a horny fuckboi. I see it happen a lot IRL. Still doesn't make any sense why these women deserve pump-and-dump sympathy unless chad specifically lied about wanting to commit and then just ghosted her afterward.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:22 PM
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Are you also attracted to women to a great degree? If so then you're not the women I'm referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:00 PM
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Women being pumped and dumped is terrible but men being used for their resources and provisional capacity is just business as usual. Women who are hit up by Chad at least are still getting sex from Chad...but we're supposed to feel bad because afterward she realized he didn't want her long term even though it was her choice to have sex with him to increase his chances of committing to her. In the case she had no ulterior motive and was just okay with having sex, then all the more I don't underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:58 PM
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Every time a woman says she likes feminine soft faced dudes it just turns out to be a young chiseled pretty boy. You basically just like young Chads. Yes, this includes kpop and emo boys and all those guys with cauliflower hair on tiktok and Timothee Chalamet. It's possible you could be one of the very small minority, but actual soft-faced feminine acting men are not a hit with any woman leaning straight. Esp if the femininity means wider hips or narrower shoulders or higher BF and a potato face…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:47 PM
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Maybe coincidence...I don't think a woman author would prevent other women from voicing dissent. It sure doesn't stop men in similar situations, we call them out like the white knight dumbasses they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:42 PM
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Men are simpler than women but not always that simple. As a straight and horny guy I still can't understand the appeal of having sex with women whom you find mediocre looking or not hot enough to "introduce to friends." Not worth the time or social navigation. Even if I was a Chad who could pump and dump all the 5/10s all I wanted that sounds mentally exhausting. On a related note it's this mentality that men always want sex and none of the context matters that makes us treat male assault and ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:33 PM
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Goalpost moving. If average women are at least "used for sex" aka agreeing to have sex then being disappointed there's no commitment, then they are being noticed quite a bit. How is this similar to average men again? Completely ignoring for a second that most people can't remember the last average woman they knew who had trouble landing a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:26 PM
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lol yea i figured
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:19 PM
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Yea I get that, but there are very different psychology(s) behind mass or public shooting and domestic violence/abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:12 PM
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Who said that? Certainly not the trope of the incel looking shooter, which completely applies here. Chad has every motivation and reason to keep things the way they are b/c everyone loves him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:54 PM
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Have you seen the perp's picture? It's like reverse eugenics, how many generations of cousin and sister fucking do you need to arrive at that hapsburg looking ass jaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:40 PM
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They look like teenage boys with good skin, literally none of them would make the list of handsome men in the US which favors a much more rugged masculine look. That first link especially the dude is...a cartoon character? And doesn't even look like he's hit puberty regardless of how old he's supposed to be. Question: If the standards are so so similar why don't any of the beauty and sex symbols in the west look like this and instead look like Brad Pitt, Jason Momoa and Henry Cavill? Because bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 12:26 AM
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i've been following the live news feed and it's strange how even though there's obviously shit coming through there's still little to no mention of the shooter or that trump was shot just that there were shots at his rally
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:59 PM
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They still do relatively much better in Asia. The ugliest of white men would pull zero women here and 4/10s there. A major improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:46 PM
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LOL Most white men don't fit into their own beauty standards. It fits exactly that nerdy white men appeal to asian women b/c they have features like larger eyes or smaller builds and jaws and paler skin. Second you completely underestimate the power of decades of colonialist mentality and the exportation of western media. It's not exclusive to asia but in most countries white men are prized for their status as well as again due to western beauty standards. It's delusional to think handsome means…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:38 PM
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It's common knowledge the asian beauty standards value smaller v-shaped jaws and larger wide eyes in both men and women. The only reason you might think otherwise is b/c a lot of asian pop stars despite their best efforts already have some degree of hooded eyes or square jaws b/c of natural bone structure. Literally any google search confirms what I said about beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:26 PM
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I forgot to mention thin recessed features as well, definitely not the idea of facial attractiveness here. Nobody likes square jaws or hunter eyes over there. Also people have racial blindness. Many white ppl can't tell an attractive asian from an ugly asian for a reason and it works the other way around too. You can be a very mediocre white guy and there are people there who literally think you look like Tom Cruise. Literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:13 PM
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He may not be suddenly a 9/10 if he's a 5 but different culture-driven beauty standards and attitudes or simply relative scarcity make certain men much more appealing in certain countries. As in the women will literally rate him as more physically attractive in said country than women in the US. Most low-hanging fruit for an example is the gawky white guy. He may not be movie-star handsome but pale skin and thin builds are still much more appreciated in Asia than the west, to not talk of the col…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:58 PM
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I wouldn't say sacrilegious. Even for people who always think "younger = better" a lot of people look better at 25 than 18. 25 is still incredibly young. I'm 27 and I have zero wrinkles even though I know they're coming lol. I have a friend in her early 30s who looks a lot better than when she was in college. She had a lot of padding and tissue around her eyes and when some of that went away her eyes just popped and became a lot more striking. For a lot of people it's probably an improvement fol…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:15 PM
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......yes, but I didn't think being skinny fat or weak disqualified you from enlisting. Being obese to the point where it might be actually dangerous and life-threatening to attempt to achieve any physical qualifications on the other hand...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:10 PM
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The men in the demographics actively dating or competing with other men are going to be, on average, more attractive than the men who aren't. I'll concede that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:05 PM
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I mean this is just speculation but I'm guessing a lot of these guys are just regular young men, regular but also doing their best to self-improve but have problems communicating and being socially active. Like as in I don't think there are actually many men here who are demanding hot women when they are couch potatoes themselves, and if they were they have the awareness to know it's unrealistic to demand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:04 PM
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The most pessimistic estimates say about 40% of american adults are obese, so why aren't at least 60% of young americans eligible? Also taking into account young adults are usually thinner than older adults. Unless just being overweight disqualifies you or there are other factors like mental health or disability.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:59 PM
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There are often posts on this sub that point fingers at men for having higher standards than they think b/c the average woman is actually closer to 40 and overweight when the male audience is usually younger sexually frustrated or socially awkward men. Would you say these posts are flawed and misdirected?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:54 PM
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Yes, but that doesn't change the absolute measurement of what average is. That's also why I say however that just b/d the average is fat/overweight, doesn't mean a young fit guy should feel entitled or bad about wanting a young fit woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:52 PM
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maybe 20-30, depending on the person some people look best younger or a bit older, but obviously just a broad average range
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:49 PM
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You are including your baby cousins, your grandpa, and also everyone else including the gigachads, so why would you single out the first two to make your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:47 PM
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People who lift and work out still have better bodies than people who don't lift or exercise at all. The bar is just very low, you look at a soft fat potato body and think that's repulsive or subpar when it's just the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:45 PM
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I'm having trouble understanding what you mean. The average isn't fit and young. Even if you hang out with other fit and young people. What you are around doesn't matter in absolute terms. If you are around a lot of attractive people or only associate with attractive people your idea of average is likely a lot higher than the actual average, but I probably am misunderstanding you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:43 PM
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I mean it goes without saying if you're in a sea of young goodlooking people you're going to get accustomed to and feel entitled to a level of average that is higher than the absolute average, but I suppose I am speaking in absolutes. It's important to recognize this difference, that your standards might be higher, but also at the same time not necessarily unjustified.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:41 PM
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How men and women rate each other or the dichotomy therein isn't relevant. That's why they call women entitled and hypergamous. Because they think an actual 7 is a 5 and don't know what an average man is when they say they are fine with an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:39 PM
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And the average changes in a circle of Dungeons and Dragons players as it does in a social circle of supermodels. Nobody's going to call any random Victoria's Secret model a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:35 PM
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care to address my points instead of standard blackpill "c0Pe"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:34 PM
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I mean you can also always say "yeah but what if america wasn't 75% overweight to obese." Fact is it's not like that. A 6 would probably not be a 6 anymore if everyone else was young and in shape b/c it's all relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:30 PM
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CMV a normal young fit person is probably a 7 and it's not overrating. That's b/c an average person isn't young, at least chubby if not fat, has all the physical manifestations of someone who has given up or let themselves go. That makes young people who aren't chubby or slobs a 6 by default. Which makes those who are a little better, the fit ones who probably benefit physically in other ways like via facial definition, a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:23 PM
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Just further proof reddit is either autists who can't read social cues or attention-seekers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:50 PM
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But you see this a lot here. A post that tells men that they dont actually just want average women like they say they do, b/c average looks a lot worse than they think. In a way it's true. The average woman is overweight and might be invisible to a lot of men. At the same time I don't necessarily think if you're a young fit man it's entitled of you to want a young fit woman no matter the supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:49 PM
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People posting on r/bodylanguage be like "What does it mean when a woman grinds up on my junk and gestures for me to follow her to her room? Does she like me?" "I trash talked someone and they glared at me and punched me in the face. Any ideas?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:47 PM
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People posting on r/bodylanguage be like "What does it mean when a woman grinds up on my junk and gestures for me to follow her to her room? Does she like me?" "I trash talked someone and they glared at me and punched me in the face. Any ideas?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:38 PM
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I see two conversations on PPD often. One is that a 5/10 isn't ugly, it's just average, and people often say they are 7 b/c they see themselves as above average when they're not. The other convo is how 5/10 is actually uglier than what people think here. The average man or woman is not young (over mid 30s), fat, unremarkable potato face etc. Going by this young normal people are automatic 6s at a baseline as long as they aren't overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:05 PM
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My understanding is just world fallacy means you assume since the world is automatically just bad boys must actually be good or have redeeming qualities and justified explanations for their behavior and vice versa. I'm saying it's not even that complex, in many cases it's just not wanting to feel guilty (or wanting to feel good) about your dating decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:52 PM
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It's like why in film and also video games there's this push for female main characters to look more "realistic" (a lot of gamers would say uglier) yet the men remain conventionally handsome and rugged. The truth is that men are okay with hot male protagonists and women are not as okay with hot female protagonists b/c of the sociopolitical climate currently; creators and producers have no reason to even it out by making the men fat potato-faces because not even men want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:36 PM
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I tried, but I also honestly think a lot of it is society's fault in how much it caters to women and feminism. Which in turn, isn't all women's fault either b/c society is still largely run by men and if things are run like this it's b/c powerful men think it's ok. If we're being honest it shouldn't be tough or some type of big congratulatory deal to have some self awareness and recognize the faults and flaws in both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:30 PM
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thankyou
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:15 PM
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I assume you just want us to list negative/cringe or undesirable traits of the modern man from a male perspective. I'll try. overly feminine, taught to eschew masculinity bc of socialization about man = bad oppressor, ending up repulsive to the opp sex ironically when this is what they are told women want now, lack of male role models is also related to this addicted to porn and borderline pedophilic acquired preferences of shit like waifus and anime girls who look like they're 10 fat and out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:12 PM
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I'm not the most internet savvy But so for the posts where it says question for men or women, basically I have to change my flair to include "man" in it every time I want to respond even though all my comments basically have been from a male perspective to begin with? And why is there no option for no-pill man or woman. Basically if you want to identify as no-pill you can't respond with a top comment in QFW/M posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:08 PM
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At the same time if someone has an SO who is easily jealous, I wouldn't necessarily say that it's emotional cheating if they interact or converse with the opp sex in any capacity or have opp sex friends. I guess that's where the gray area comes in. Sometimes it's not immediately black and white feasible to just break it off with a jealous SO if you want to have opp sex friends and interactions. You can try to talk to them about it but things about your SO's character are not always going to be c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:47 PM
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Fair enough, although it also just depends on the gigantic variable(s) that is the person or the spouse/partner. For instance there are people who would prefer their SOs forego interaction or any type of friendship with the opp sex entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:33 PM
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Which makes me feel kind of conflicted. What would you say constitutes emotional cheating? I've admittedly flirted and had long meaningful conversations about all sorts of topics with women I'm not dating or having sex with who also have bfs. Is that worse than having sex with her or is emotional cheating something entirely worse and different
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:24 PM
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Yea thx On another note a lot of women have told me they'd be more hurt by emotional than physical cheating which reflects your observations Highlights the difference between the sexes. When a woman cheats the relationship is beyond salvage b/c she doesn't love him anymore. This in turn, not to justify physical cheating on the part of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:07 PM
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cheating is always wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:56 PM
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not fat, pleasant, loyal women ftfy Compared to tall handsome wealthy, fun The bar for women is on the ground which is why it's hard for men to readily feel equal empathy when people are forced to deal with leftovers. Leftover men and women are not remotely analogous. Even in direst straits, leftover women still have a much better chance and advantage in dating, and probably had to fuck up a lot more to get to leftover status to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:48 PM
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It's more simple than that. It just minimizes cognitive dissonance and is convenient to tell yourself the men you are naturally attracted to aren't problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:41 PM
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I don't think context is relevant in this discussion. It doesn't matter what you're talking about, whether it's libido, neuroticism, height or brain wiring, as long as society paints men as oppressors and women as victims it will always be much more acceptable to criticize men as a monolith and not as acceptable vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:29 PM
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You're so right. A person at a buffet who only wants fiilet mignon definitely has it just as bad as a starving homeless person. They can't control what they want to eat :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:21 PM
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When you say they admit and acknowledge women have it hard in dating that implies women actually have it hard in dating. Which they do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:49 PM
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I like the polar bear documentary reference when the narrator says "The male finishes his nap and checks whether any females have appeared."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:03 AM
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If you live in a state with higher minimum wage you can make more than that working fast food or retail once you turn 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:42 AM
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Naturally lol. But it's just extra funny that people are able to just pull out explanations out of their ass like that. Like ya...sure...that's why dick jokes exist. Like ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:34 AM
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That's the thing about people who feel the need to exaggerate and lie. They go out of their way to talk and explain when no one asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:54 AM
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Apparently small dick jokes are justified b/c they were invented originally in response to misogyny and making fun of women with loose vaginas and slutshaming. People just keep surprising me despite my lowest of expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:05 AM
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Does it matter? Either way the woman is disgusted even if one is clearly more disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:31 AM
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What if I told you this place is a shitty representation of how the average straight male thinks or how anyone thinks. Thankfully. If you spend a lot of time in a pilled space you're a weirdo. Doesn't matter how successful or unsuccessful you actually are at dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:10 PM
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I think fortunately the people with these autistic truerateme standards are mostly just the terminally online or socially inept variety. Most remotely normal people still rate the same as they would have 10 years ago. And actually you'll see a lot of overrating as well still on reddit in some subs. I would still rate Sydney Sweeney a 7 or 8 and not a 6, and higher than a lot of these PSL gods and goddesses these autists dickride. It's not because "oh those people are too perfect", their standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:54 PM
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I dun get it tho, you feel current standards are too high so you use truerateme standards? Which are even more stringent and actually put together by autists and don't even reflect the preferences of the general population eg some of their 6s beat out their 9s. Taylor Hill is apparently 1 in 50,000 (lmaoo) according to their chart. She's very pretty. But I don't know what shitholes they live in where she is rare if you see people regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:51 PM
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I assure you a 5/10 modern woman making 50k a year does not want to date her equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:49 PM
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LOL just came across a reddit post titled "Why are women so beautiful?" I don't see simping and men playing nice ending before the end of this century.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:14 PM
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The youngish couples under 30 you see around you IRL, is the guy usually a chad or chadlite?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:05 PM
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You're not entirely wrong and this is probably obvious but I just notice how it's pretty pointless to argue with anyone of a certain persuasion or pill b/c they have a preset answer for whatever you say. It's not just blackpillers, it's bluepillers, feminists, a lot of gaslighting women here etc. Finally, I dunno I've seen a lotta couples. Is the looks threshold really that high?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:10 PM
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Women are not indifferent toward men, it's just a lot easier for women to find sex and relationships. At least before 30 it's clear most women want a relationship and do not want to be single. They are indifferent toward men they find unattractive for a variety of reasons and so they have no need for them. Vs men who are struggling in dating, they of course will come across as needy and thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:36 AM
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I shit on women who say that all the time. If women could sniff out misogyny there wouldn't be so many women saying they didn't know the guy was an abusive POS to defend their decisions, either that or they knew about the misogyny but decided they were okay with it b/c of other shallow reasons, until it became not okay. It's just a way for women to shame men using the halo effect when the men have any type of complaint or struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:10 AM
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Blackpillers when ugly or average men say looks don't matter the most: "You're just telling on yourself, it's clear you have no idea what it's like to be a goodlooking guy bc you'd see just how much attention women give attractive men." Blackpillers when goodlooking men say looks don't matter the most: "Clearly you wouldn't understand b/c you take all the female attention for granted. Of course you're going to think personality matters."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:48 AM
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it was a general statement aimed at everyone in this sub lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:00 PM
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Lesbianest if you were entirely or even mostly normal you would not be here regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:02 PM
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The world is full of white knights quick to join the mob to criticize men b/c they're virtue signaling, trying to gain favor with women, or just plain unable to think critically b/c it's always fashionable to defend women and shit on men, no one's denying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:59 PM
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alright that's my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:51 PM
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you literally just said this But if the cook is good looking and the manger is average, cook wins hands down. That's a 5/10 beating out a 7+/10 cook
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:25 PM
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I agree with you for the most part tbh. The reason why people think looks matter the most in a lot of circles and environments is b/c status and money aren't even an option so ofc it's going to be about the guy with the best jawline or eyes and cool hair b/c there's nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:54 PM
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Which means looks aren't the most important.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:48 PM
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You think young Forrest Whitaker fit the standards better 40 years ago than now which is much more open to phenotypes and features of non-whites? smh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:47 PM
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What are you talking about? I'm talking about 20 years olds today with a 20 year old Forrest Whitaker after a google search.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:30 PM
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But aren't looks supposed to matter even more for short-term and ONS which are more physical based?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:25 PM
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or maybe the people around me don't look like fat ass walmart shoppers i don't think it's fair to say the average 20-something with dreams and goals fits this description
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:21 PM
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I actually agree and think he's above average even if he didn't give off that dirty goofy kid vibe - which apparently is working for him. I still stand by my original post/comment and the blackpillers are overreacting and misreading things as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:18 PM
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So you admit the manager at a restaurant is potentially more attractive to women than the goodlooking cook but you still think looks matter most? Looks like you're the one underestimating the important of looks now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:15 PM
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Just look with your eyes. You're just arguing just to argue. I mean if you're saying the average hollywood actor hired in his youth is better looking than the walmart fatass, I guess I just never saw average as that low of a bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:11 PM
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Yeah standards change, I'm still not going to believe you when you say Forrest Whitaker was considered handsome back then and hired based on his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:07 PM
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I don't get it, it happens every time I post something like this. When have I ever said that looks aren't important? Controversial take and a different convo entirely here, but I also think looks matter more for people in the lower classes (i.e. status, money, and stability matter much more in the UMC) because it's the quality that is most easiest to improve upon. Men in this demographic are not going to be able to amass the amount of status or money for it to matter to women, so might as well c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:06 PM
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Agree that Pete isn't ugly. Honestly think he's a lil above average. But you should argue and address my points and examples instead of the usual 'cope harder delulu' black pill default response.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:00 PM
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If it's stronger you wouldn't have 10/10 women choosing 6-7/10 men when they are the women who could get 10/10 men the easiest. And there you guys go again about automatically thinking "women' don't care about looks as much as men" means "women don't appreciate good looks." And you BPers go the extra mile to say they care even more about it. Well, can't say I'm surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:58 PM
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so you're saying maybe the standards were lower back then, as in typical hollywood actors were actually just average looking men a few decades ago
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:56 PM
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everyone here is also abnormal tho lol autistic, mentally ill, traumatized, terminally online, myself included going by that none of our anecdotes and takeaway from our experiences are worth a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:54 PM
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https://people.com/style/emily-ratajkowski-dating-history/ Really? You think Pete looks worse than Eric Andre?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:51 PM
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I can say women can potentially value looks a lot but it's filtered through the lens of social value and status eg if you're an insta baddie and your circles and livelihood are all about finding that perfect angle or filter and you're all about that life you're going to want a guy who reflects and complements this image you crave. It's not quite the same as the automatic visceral magnetism men have for looks in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:50 PM
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you think jack nicholson, tom hanks, morgan freeman, and forrest whitaker were head turners in their youth?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:47 PM
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Again you look at Pete's situation as an isolated case which is the problem. Look at the beautiful women he's dated and their histories. Most of them aren't ugly but also aren't anything special, and some might even look worse than him, which is my ultimate point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:46 PM
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Maybe. But the beautiful women he has dated don't have a history of choosing men for their looks. People miss this and just see "oh hey look Pete he's ugly but look at what he can pull."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:45 PM
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Obsessing about their own looks more does not logically or even inferentially lead to them caring more about looks in men, at all. If fame is more important than looks for women then by default they don't care about looks more than men do b/c men def care more about looks than fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:44 PM
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CMV for the blackpilled and femcel adjacent: Women don't care about looks nearly as much as men. If this were the case, top-tier beautiful women would be dating male models b/c they would be able to, easily. Pete Davidson is known for being a mediocre looking guy dating a string of hot sex symbol women. But that isn't the part to notice. It's that if you look at the dating histories of these women famous for their beauty it's all fairly ordinary looking albeit high status and rich men. Pete only…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:37 PM
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I really really really hate "it's giving"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:33 PM
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I'd say if you exclude most of the leading men, most of them aren't anything special. Even the goodlooking ones are just there b/c they are goodlooking in addition to luck and connections. When we think Hollywood actor we always go straight to Hemsworth Leo or Will Smith in our head but forget it's actually mostly guys like Nicholson, Hanks, Freeman, and many other character or side actors. Then there are some who are legit handsome but just age poorly, like Tom Hardy above.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:31 PM
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I guess I just don't find it that unusual or surprising haha. Tall perfectly fine looking young charismatic comedian with a track record of philanthropy combined with a type of fun rebellious bad boy image. I would honestly be surprised if he didn't do well with beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:15 AM
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It's true guys approach much less nowadays, but I would assume even then attractive women are still getting hit up or propositioned often within their social circles. But you answered my question when you said your friends basically have minimal social circles and stay inside or keep to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:04 AM
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If you look at the men Emily Ratajkowski, Kate Beckinsale, Kim K and Ariana Grande have dated for the most part they are all fairly mediocre looking just like Pete if not worse, but Pete's the one always getting called ugly or punching up. Maybe it's b/c these men individually despite their average looks don't have a track record of dating series of beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:59 AM
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Men are criticized for having high standards as a deflection when men criticize hypergamy eg "Men just want Stacy too". Men are criticized for having low standards when they point out how much easier women have it in dating eg "It's not women's fault men will date and fuck anything."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:10 AM
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i'm sure if we parsed things we would find things we disagree with but overall I've always kind of thought in line with this I believe in the value of traditional gender roles and norms and a lot of old-school standards and such, but if you don't feel like you fit naturally into these roles that's ok too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:49 PM
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Along with his height and fame and slightly decent features he's not leading man material but he certainly doesn't look worse than most celebs in Hollywood. It's just confusing why he's the poster boy for ugly guy dating beautiful women. He's not ugly first of all, and you look at the dating history of these women you'll notice the men aren't lookers for the most part so it tracks and Pete might look even better than some. Maybe it's the difference in status...the women he dates are maybe even r…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:34 PM
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aren't full lips a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:07 PM
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It's true. At absolute best the gap closes and women have less of an advantage with age, but mention that a woman's SMV lowers significantly after 35 and you'll get reactive screeches like you just said the creepiest most misogynist thing. Like they are upset a woman has only an advantage now instead of a gigantic advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:33 PM
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he's not even ugly for tv aside from leading men he doesn't look any worse than any other actor or celeb
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:26 PM
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yea but who says he has to be hot? he's a comic and the women he dated are better looking than him, but these women also have a history of dating men not as goodlooking in general and it's not an anomaly even in Hollywood
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:21 PM
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i was talking about emily ratjkowski as well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:17 PM
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this would make sense if everyone on tv was a leading man but they aren't also you look at his exes, their dating history isn't all handsome men either so why does davidson get singled out for punching above his league even then he's tall rich high status established comedian charisma, philanthropist honestly it would be surprising if he wasn't successful in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:13 PM
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Somebody explain to me why everyone thinks pete davidson is ugly? What are his ugly features aside from his eyes looking tired or high. I consider myself a pretty objective looks rater and I don't see the ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:09 PM
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what i mean is when they show care like stepping in it's more a personal thing b/c it's a trauma that resonates deeply in their lives i'm not going to deny women who do lots of philanthropy don't exist b/c obviously they do but for the most part i don't really see these women being supportive otherwise and for the record men aren't any better and are prob worse ofc if they see a woman being taken advantage of, harassed, creeped on, given the opportunity they will say something these same women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:10 PM
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i mean they might step in out of duty in the same way i would step in out of duty to protect anyone being assaulted/harassed in a job capacity sometimes it almost feels like a personal thing you do for yourself, i could see myself standing up for other men b/c of a type of vicarious or parasocial identification if they were wronged the way i was wronged and it resonated strongly with me but overall i can honestly say i don't really care about other men (or people) as a whole it's not a coinciden…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:59 PM
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Probably depends on the biological differences specifically. Feminists have no choice but to admit that clearly men have penises and women don't, men are on average taller or more muscular and women aren't, but they have more room for argument with less readily tangible traits like those having to do with personality. Honestly it's weird with a lot of them that they have the hardest time admitting male and female brains are wired differently when physical differences are accepted and plain as da…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:52 PM
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More than the trad gender roles it's also more that RP recognizes these roles originally emerging due to immutable set-in-stone characteristics of human nature and difference between the sexes. My impression of all or most feminism is that they view these characteristics and resulting personality traits as the result of socialization more than biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:43 PM
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I mean the feminism you're describing that isn't against trad gender roles must be pretty niche b/c I've never heard or read about it. Not saying I don't believe you, just saying it makes sense when we talk about feminism to talk about the most commonly accepted and broadcast forms of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:35 PM
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This is going on a tangent but I don't doubt women have other women in their lives they care deeply about But I just don't see this broad 'women supporting and protecting other women' thing to be genuine My experiences in the workplace in all honesty tell me women are constantly talking behind each other's back and low-key resent each other or are just waiting for another to slip so they can be critical Not saying men can't be like that...i think overall men are taught to hold in their competiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:33 PM
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Doesn't RP also strongly infer the validity and justification of traditional gender roles due to the inherent nature of men and women? Eg men being the protectors, providers, women drawn to strong, aggressive ambitious conventionally masculine men, men being sexually attracted to youth and fertility etc. Isn't feminism against a lot of this, calls for the abolishment of gender roles and strongly supports the idea that these prescriptions are socially driven and fluid?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:27 PM
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women can probably tell (better) when a man lacks experience with women, but women can absolutely have trouble detecting shitty men from decent men, hence all the women saying they didn't know their SOs or spouses were such abusive POS when they first met
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:24 PM
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Women talking about Chads who happen to be assholes: "He's been through a lot." "The ugly guys are just as shitty, might as well go for a hot one!" "he put in the work" "He's not a bad person, yall mistaking a go-getter with self respect and know how to stand up for himself with an asshole" Women to average men and below who happen to be decent people: "Everyone goes through shit, just deal" "Perhaps you're more entitled than you think so maybe aim a little lower" "You put in the work but life g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:58 PM
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Modern world caters to women there will always be way more white knights vs pickmes by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:42 PM
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He isn't letting the internet affect his perception of the world though. He realizes just how much better being off the internet is hence quitting reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:41 PM
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you mean pickme's?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:39 PM
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It's just a difference in nuance. Men have always been horny enough to just fuck without care. Probably many women too. That doesn't mean they are incapable of being exclusive to someone b/c they care about them and treasure the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:20 PM
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i've never met a straight woman who didn't like muscles just women who like them more and women who don't care as much and see it as a bonus
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:16 PM
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i can fix her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:42 PM
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men are okay with fucking with zero emotional investment, that's always been real
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:41 PM
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this is how you know sexual orientation isn't fluid (at least among men) bc if it was there would be a lot more guys going gay b/c of how much easier it is getting male attention
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:39 PM
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PPD on the one hand: Blame men and their low standards that's why women have it easier. PPD on the other hand: Men are just as hypergamous and deluded as women and always chasing Stacy. Inb4 'it's different people saying these things' It is not. Finally, for those men with actually low standards, did it ever occur to anyone they started out higher but they lowered them due to just becoming more realistic with what they could get?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:58 PM
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if your friends are attractive why are they giving men who look like they 'snuck onto earth' the time of day? Obviously they're going to have more attractive options.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:42 AM
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somehow i don't think you'd be okay with putting in more than 50/50 in situations where the man takes on more risk
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:37 AM
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She's an alt/new(er) acct of a user here a while back. When she was on her previous acct she was also considered by many here as the worst person on the sub. Not going to mention usernames but it's one of those rare cases where it's obvious down to the details and writing style.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:56 AM
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thinking someone is fuckable doesn't or shouldn't necessitate catching feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:34 AM
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it's just personality differences too i can block out someone's hotness fairly easily if they're a friend and not everyone compartmentalizes readily like that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:30 AM
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technically but not really
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:27 AM
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I have woman friends I find attractive and woman friends I don't find attractive. It doesn't affect how I treat them. Maybe I'm just spoiled with all my porn and internet and gadgets but it's too much trouble to seek sex with these friends anyway and I genuinely care about them as people. If you're talking about using 'friend' as that awkward placeholder when you try to hit and it doesn't work out but you're in that awkward situation where you are still around each other and don't necessarily de…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:22 AM
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They want their man to be desired and checked for by other women, but don't want their man to act on any of them. i.e. they want a man other women want but they also need the man to want only them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:08 AM
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the sorority chick who wrote the article before the dadbod thing blew up in the media herself said main reasons for liking dadbods more was less pressure to look good/stay in shape and feeling insecure next to a fitter guy more attention toward her bc he spends less time in the gym the guy enjoys more pizza and beer presumably so she can enjoy pizza and beer don't need to be afraid of other women hitting on him or giving him attention Not really a glowing or convincing endorsement straight from …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:31 AM
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Rare outliers. They tryin to make it sound like dadbod is the norm a lotta women just prefer Even a lot of feminists are against this narrative bc it relieves men of accountability while female beauty standards still exist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:28 AM
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yeah but for other reasons. Not b/c of dadbod. "Man he's a POS but he look like he'd be very comfortable to cuddle with like a walking pillow" nah
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:25 AM
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Nobody ever stuck around or put up with a guy's red flags b/c of a dadbod like 'oh he do got that dadbod tho' or 'he do have that skinny body' Muscles/fit body or a good face actively ignite attraction, even if not all women place the same value on it, depending on the woman they'll potentially overlook flaws bc of them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:22 AM
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Here's something mindblowing. Friends still appreciate and routinely give each other advice and input even though it goes without saying ultimately the decision is their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:16 AM
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Even skinny people who look good skinny look even better a little toned Obviously if you have BDD or are into heroin chic I mean to me that's weird af but it's your life As for how the convo started we talk about a lot of random things and working out/exercise comes up once in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:10 AM
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yea i'd say 60 pounds is being extremely generous
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:12 AM
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