My friends use the word, my coworkers and so do the people around me lol Shit, hopefully I can ascend and crack a couple tortas and white humpback whales
Both tbh. I've never took shit from people in person, and I'm definitely not gonna start now. Though, I did go through a different route and pm'd the individual
, it’s just weird you’re waiting for all of it to be done just to even try OLD. I'm just sick of this shit bro https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/Pkc2cQI9Mf
You can’t fathom that attitude and personality are just as much part of charisma, if not more so. My attitude in person is completely different than on here. This place is more like a journal. I have alot of friends, random people I talk to find me likable, and me and my female coworkers and friends joke around and get along very well. Trust me I'm not autistic, I can tell when someone genuinely likes me or not. So you’ll still feel the same and have the same body dysmorphia even after surgery. …
People here say all I do is complain and do nothing, or call me a defeatist. Then they'll completely ignore my posts about researching and saving up for multiple cosmetic procedures, or when I say I'm trying lose weight, or get a better physique. They also ignore when I tell them that I actually go outside, and I'm not the typical basement dwelling, jobless inc3l
I'm literally planning on getting a bunch of cosmetic surgeries, while also going to the gym, in the attempt to make myself hotter. I'm the total opposite of a defeatist lmao
I put my face rating in the flair (as rated by women) If you take all the info in my flair into consideration, youd see if I had a better face I wouldn't be a 28 year old virgin/face is more important than th e other stuff we aren’t with you when you are with women I act chill around them, no shyness, no stuttering, and good eye contact
Shit dude, if looked like Henry Cavill and got the attention he got, I would never be this bitter in the first place lmao. Also if I had as shitty of an attitude as you're saying, I wouldn't have the amount of friends that I have, I wouldn't be getting invited out by people, they wouldn't let me around their GF's, I wouldn't have female friends, my female coworkers wouldn't want to enthusiastically talk to me, I'd basically be a basement dwelling inc3l. This place is basically a virtual journal/…
I just don't want to put in a shit ton of effort, especially for a woman below me or on my level. It should feel like she's actually in to me and wants to talk to me
you don't want to go through the experience of putting more effort into the convos than the typical mildly interested girl. I mostly don't want to go through this type of stuff again https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/UnrBk6NTmi
Once I know I got the "look", my attitude will readjust. I'm sure I wouldn't be so bitter or depressed if women started seeing me as physically hot or good looking
If thats him I think you’re more normal/better looking. Normal looking,yes. Better looking than him? No. I've never had a women call me hot or good looking
Edit: But also lowkey if you're a regular participant on this sub your chances of being NT or normal are shall we say not very high. Well, back in high school I hung out with "nt" crowds, I played football, and got invited to parties, one of these parties was for some up and coming rapper dude who graduated from my highschool 2 years prior.. I also went to a lot of bars, clubs, festivals and kick back throughout my 20's. I also have normal hobbies like going out with friends, drinking, having bb…
How's the hookup culture there? Is it good? My poor man's plan is to drop more weight, get a hair transplant, and slay whales, grannies, and single moms
I did post a picture of my face here a month ago. I only left it up for an hour. I have an advantage in everything except what women care about the most, face(and hair), lol. I could pm you a pic of my face if you're really interested
Nice my G. Even though I'm a virgin, I still wouldn't deal with a boring ass woman just for some pussy. I'd go jerk off atp Seems like some salty woman downvoted this
You can't be that bad I mean, I'm 28 and ended up a virgin even though I go out to clubs and bars with friends. (the person had no deformities. It's that the face had no positive attributes) This is my problem. I'm just mid and not hot
Exactly bro. Trying to change that shit, especially past certain ages, will feel awkward, unnatural, and performative I'd rather go to the gym, get a hair transplant, inject some roids, and get some plastic surgeries, than try to become as funny as Dave Chappelle, or become a yapper
https://preview.redd.it/ilcbgx6perbf1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=0eada67fba39188ae910f9f9e364b7bd39c24f7f "If you're struggling and claim to be average, then you're actually below average. Me and my friends are average looking and do amazing on dating apps, and dating in general bro"
When you look in the mirror, and you're not hook up material https://preview.redd.it/1khch5radqbf1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1a416a483e30ee605d79eb1b6efdbe6504517f7
Yeah James is pretty up there for me. I can almost always find a Sopranos/ Tony gif that can express how I feel in the moment I'm also a Tony Sopran sized motherfucker lmao
I go outside, have went clubbing on multiple occasions,have went to house parties, have mixed friends groups, played American football back in school, play pick up games of basketball at the gym here and there, and am currently trying to lose weight and hit the weights. It doesn't matter, they'll still call you a lazy introverted inkwell, it's a "gotcha" to them.
Guess he wanted a more flared jaw look. I'm thinking about getting a jaw implant, mine is just average at best, and we know average doesn't get panties wet
Average dudes(5-6/10). How bad is dating for you? When I mean average, I mean average face, average height, average Joe hobbies, average personality, and average job and salary
I want hollow cheeks(make them pop) but I just don't want my cheekbones to be the widest part of my face, especially my jaw(cheekbone shaving). It looks real feminine on men
When I was younger it always appeared bad to date, be seen with, or get hit on by a fat chick. There was even the trope of "lower your standards and date a fat chick" In reality you have to either be ripped, rich and willing to beta buxx for them, have a 7+ inch dick, have clout, or have talent just for them to even look in your direction.
I'm currently trying to lose weight, get fitter, and maybe get a couple cosmetic procedures. I'm probably still going to pursue these type of women, because they'll hopefully be easier. I'm just mentally, and emotionally tired boss. I need a rest
Rude Loud Bad hygiene No teeth Super wrinkly Has/had an onlyfans Super religious Over 300lbs Super SJW Smokes cigarettes Drinks beer like a dude Is the type to air out personal info out in public or around friends Has autism tbh Reckless behavior Bad communication Doesn't have a good relationship with father
So far my looksmaxxing plan is Weight loss till I'm low BF enough to make my cheekbones pop Finasteride and minoxidil Continue Skincare Add retin A to Skin care Hair transplant Steroids(will reevaluate) Loose skin surgery Jaw angle implants(will reevaluate after weight loss) Double jaw surgery with counterclockwise rotation(will reevaluate after weight loss) Earlobe reduction Canthoplasty Cheekbone shaving How about you guys? What are your looksmaxxing plans or goals
Not redpill tbh, but this things that are currently stopping are my Norwood 2.5-3 hairline, overweight, my jaw being a bit too narrow for my cheekbones, and my earlobes are a bit too big. I'm currently taking care of the being overweight part, but the other stuff costs money, and is going to take a bit of time. Now, thinking about it, the weight loss is probably going to create a new problem for me, loose skin. Guess I can add that to the list of other things I need to take care of.
You really are a piece of shit, you know that. At this point Idgaf a fuck if they perma ban me from the shit hole, so ill just say this Never in my life have I let a mf tell me shit in person. I ain't finna start letting dorks on reddit start. If you got a problem and are ever in the North Vegas area, let me know G.
Damn seeing all this "no matches" posts from average guys on r/tinder is really fucking depressing. If you ever recommend me to use online dating apps, please slap yourself lmao(reddit mods this is not intended to be a threat of violence)
Nope, I lived around hood mf's and knew that cornball shit would never work for me since 4th grade lol. Would work if she found you absolutely hot. Then again, if she found you hot, you could do almost anything lol
😂 damn sorry to hear that. Has he held that over your head , or did you guys have a gentlemans agreement to never mention that moment again? I might eventually get one with those big jiggly booties
Then I'd be like those super fat women who've slept with 50 partners through online dating apps, while short fat women would be in my position Imagine such a world lmao
Yeah my homies associate reddit with incels, weirdo stage kidd and school shooters. I just join in on the shit talking lol. Can't let my homies know I'm on reddit.
Nope, I was rated a 5/10 by some women in private messages, and when one of my friends sent my selfie pic to a group chat with her friends. I have a valid reason, not no BDD.
Is pulling randoms at a club easy in America? Cant say, personally. It's not for me as we all know lmao I’m surprised you can’t pull on apps or in a “warm” environment Some guys and woman are surprised, while others aren't surprised.
The women in my area need to see a therapist, because their standards are damn near maniacal lmao. Jokes aside, I'm sure shelling my money away towards an escort would be a better return on my investment tbh
I think the location definitely matters. The Eastern European women who've seen me thought I was actually good-looking, while the Anglo women, and African American women who've seen me have ne at a 5/10.
Yes but you guys are assuming I view them as another species lol. "They fart and burp like the rest of us bro" yeah, I had a sister and a bunch of female cousins and friends growing up dawg I'm not entertaining or engaging or charming enough for them on a romantic level
I talk with them like normal people and can even joke around with them. Talking to them like regular people, or like any other dude does not = they will find you attractive lmao
I have no problem talking to women 1 on 1. I do it plenty at work, when I'm out, and in my day to day life. I don't stutter, talk fast, or ramble. Picture most smooth, slow talking black dudes from cali.
sat at a table in a coffee shop with all gen z women except for me (the only spot open was at the table). two women next to me immediately put headphones in, and one scootches away slightly. Brutal
Most men are horny and wanting sex, it's what drives them to date. What drove me to want to date in the beginning. Realized I wasn't attractive to women in any way, and i didnt want to go the extra mile to compensate m, so I switched to porn and masturbating. Hassle free tbh
"You're incel because you don't socialize" You're incel because you don't have friends(male and female" "You're incel because you don't leave the house" "You're incel because you're unfriendly" "You're incel because you don't shower or put on deodorant" "You're incel because you don't drink alcohol" "You're incel because you never played sports in high school" "You're incel because you don't interact with women" In walks OnASick0ne https://preview.redd.it/w1x93c4xee8f1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg…
True, I expect that if I want a better job, nicer house, be good at an instrument, you know the better things in life. But if I just want a super fat bitch or ugly bitch, then there shouldn't be too much work
Why do the dudes who got their GF's/wives by pure luck/chance/ or after 1,000 fails like to talk down on other dudes? Like I'd rather listen to LeBron than Brian Scalabrine
Them having less insane standards perhaps? If I'm able to get people to like me, and want to hang out with me, then at least I know I'm interesting enough. If I had hunter eyes, a square jaw, and a better hairline, then my personality would've been plenty to get laid or date lmao
I was never slob fat, i played sports in school and had good cardio and wqs very strong. If i had nice features and didn't have level 2 hair loss, it wouldn't be a problem. Also I have to keep reminding people here, that I go for fat chicks, not models
They don't get close to me. They think they're better than me, even though we're on the same level. It's crazy to think people say " date fat chicks, bro. Their standards are lowers" like they don't want the same hot guys non fat chicks want
Making you have to be extremely charismatic, interesting, funny, and 100% perfect to make up for the fact that you're not hot. I guess if these things already come naturally to you, it's not monkey dancing
Wow, I'm just sitting here and realizing the older I get and the more I age, the more physically unattractive I'm going to become to women smh. They never let me capitalize on my your
I don't see a mystique in sex lol. I meant more that I'm not charismatic enough to get in a chicks pants, and it's gonna be awkward at 28 trying to do it haha
But that’s how you learn and grow. It sucks, but that’s pretty much the only way to do it unless you were born with Chad level genes. I should've got on it earlier, that's my stupid mistake. Now it seems trying to gain chad, or at least chadlite looks(through weight loss, gym and potentially surgeries and steroids) seem to be the best option. Idk how many women are willing to put up with, or the chance to a 28 year old virgin trying to practice on them
I'm just saying bro. I know alot of people here think when I say "monkey dance", they think that I think they a chad has to put in absolutely 0 social effort and can just be an autists It becomes monkey dancing when it doesnt come naturally to you, and you have to put a great deal of concious effort. I can naturally do these things enough to get people to like me, but not enough to get them to want to suck my dick
No but I do believe chad isn't expected to be funny like Dave Chappelle, more interesting like the Dos Equis Man, or have an infallible mouth piece like some Don Juan. He get way more leeway when he interacts with women
I do not get how some people in here get this mindset in here that you have to some perfect specimen of a man to get into a relationship or have good dates. Because that what most women expect of me to compensate for not being hot. I need to Be perfect in other aspects of life for them to even glance in my direction Do these people not step outside? I do, at least. I used to share my friday-Saturday nights out on the PPD daily thread back in 2023-24.
This is what I thought I would've got if I went out to club and bars and constantly put myself in close proximity to drunk women. Sadly, never happened once, not even from the ugly ones
I would kill to find someone who just wants something casual with me. Sadly I'm not hot and will probably need to monkey dance or beta bux my way into a dead bedroom relationship
"You don't get laid because you stay in your basement, don't socialize, don't have friends and dont shower bro" A wild FunEducation/OnASick0ne appears Them: https://youtu.be/L6cbbaIK7m8?si=eHbQG3nqLq2bIxsT
I played sports back in high school bro lol. I don't really do anything sporty, other than going occasionally to the gym with some friends to play pick up games of basketball Yeah my lack of interest from women out in person is very bizarre
I don’t see the problem with putting in effort? Some effort isn't so bad. It's when you need to be waaay more charismatic than you usually are, have to be waaay funnier than you usually are, and need to make sure you don't say the wrong thing and make her get "the ick"......I mean not find a spark lmao. It just gets mentally exhausting when you can't be your natural self that other people enjoy
I’ve seen men with average face at 5’7 attract. Yeah but how much effort did they have to put in lol? Do they gotta be the most charismatic, extroverted, commanding in the room? Do they have to be making the chick laugh every 5 mins? Do they have to have stories about all these places they went? Also, average face at 6'3 is not optimal. Majority of the women here would choose a 5'7 8/10 faced dude lol
It's not about being ugly, it about being average and sub chadlite. I still have to put up a giant amount of mentally and emotionally draining effort. Maybe I need to lose 100lbs and get a jaw implant to become hotter, idk
Well when my grandma passed I was struggling with some hair loss. I dealt with that grief by distracting myself with trying to research as many avenues for hair loss prevention/restoration, as possible Tbh my lack of pussy takes up my thoughts, that there's no time for grieving
There isn't much of a story really, bro. Women don't seem interested in me at all. I used to play sports in high school, and go to house parties. Then as I moved to my 20s, me and my friends went out a lot, like to bars and night clubs. It never worked. no woman, and I mean none, ever even looked in my direction, they didn't care how tall I was.
As far as I know, probably. It's all assumed that everyone there has lost their virginity. im not the nerd, stutters around women type, so they don't suspect a thing
I'm more indifferent. Just never really cared or thought about it, and now as a 28 year old virgin, I think about it even less. Also only 2-3 of my friends have kids
Valid. You know the other life situation that's going on with me, that plus the no physical attraction from women, and no pussy, just builds onto my sadness
Yeah I would've been considered chadlite with my face + height because women wouldn't have had access to good looking men or men willing to splurge all their funds on them smh
I’m willing to bet you get all that they think they are hot shit from societal media Nope just from getting rejected by a few, seeing how some have never thrown ioi's at me, how some never have a positive reaction/low effort reaction to me, ans how my female cousins and coworkers speak. And fyi you’re fat yourself claim, why do you deserve someone who isn’t. I never ask for skinny women, at all. I ask for my league to very very below my league. But being an asshole asides either ways look wise t…
I work because if I don't ill starve. Working is non avoidable. Trying to fuck fat ugly women shouldnt have to feel like extra work. Now a days they feel like they're prizes and shit
It the fact that I have to try even more. I have to put up a giant effort just to make up for looking average, all while she's scrutinizing my every word trying to find an "ick", all while my standards aren't high at all. I just hope I finally become physically attractive enough to women one day, whether that be through weight loss or surgery.
I mean, I'm still gonna lose weight, I just don't think it's gonna make a huge difference. Women are probably still gonna expect me to monkey dance and shit. Also lets not act like chad still wouldn't look good even when fat
Wasn't the original optimism also based on the opinions of randoms from this subreddit? These were people from the sub that I've known for a few years now. They were giving me high ratings and describing me as "looking good". This was the complete opposite of what the randoms who I asked to rate me were giving me. , but I really don't think your face is holding you back. I don't think I'm ugly, I just know my face is not enough for women's insane standards now aa days. I see how actual average l…
Visually I'm making progress on the weight loss, which I'm happy about. Luckily(or not) due to certain things going on in my life, I don't have time to consume much porn or make bad spending decisions. I hope these habits stick when my situation improves
The full beard pic got 5's and the mustache/goatee pic got 6s I'm gonna take these women's advice and lose weight, and do some other small things here and there. They told me with this I had the potential to be a 7 Maybe a jacked body and my height can be a multiplier to my future 7/10 face
Exactly, My whole purpose being on PPD is to be one of the living examples lol. Women never turn their heads or seem enthusiastic around me when I used to go out with my friends at night(this is a mixed gender friends group as well)
The looksmaxing/lookism type incel sites ive lurked have always said face is king, over being over 6ft tall. Also for years I've seen women here, and in person say face is more important than being 6ft+.
Some of us were destined to be an inkwell I guess. How well I dressed, how funny people thought I was, how many homies I had, how many times I went out on the weekend, how many parties I went to, or how many showers I took never made a difference smh
I guess I'm neurotic in that I always need to have the perfect first word/introduction, and always put pressure on myself to be interesting or funny. I just keep putting mental pressure on myself
but have you seen my body pic? The shadow-y one? If I had that body I'd be appalled/ashamed of myself. But you're going for a specific look, aren't you?
You could 100% snag a torta with how you look right now You'd be surprised lol. Maybe if I'm willing to be a step dad, but I need to lose more weight and make some improvements to my Looks if I just want to pound tortas lol
Just want to remind everyone that This guy was saved from incelism because his wife made the first move back in high school. He's also mentioned never getting female attention prior and after to that.
There were two cute girls there. They tried to talk to me See, why can't the world throw me a bone like this once in a while? I wouldn't be a fucking virgin. Instead everywhere I go is women with inflated egos and standards
I look for women that throw signals or seem to be interested in my presence. I don't think I'm charming or funny enough to turn a random, uninterested woman in the street into a date, or hook up
I've only started to complain when I turned 25. From 14-24, I just accepted things as they were and you never heard a complaint our of me. A man eventually has a breaking point
Going out and enjoying the nightlife, used to go out to clubs a fair bit, started to re pick up guitar, kickin it on the block with my homies, getting a couple homies together and playing some basketball at the park, and cooking. Back I'm California I used to love going to the beach with cousins, or some friends and having a BBQ/Picnic.
Im a 28 year old virgin. I have friends, go out, have no autism or niche interests or hobbies, can easily converse with most people who are open, dont come off as desperate and my standards are non existant. Im not saying I'm hideous or anything, but I'm not meeting women's looks standards it seems
I wasn't aware being tall was supposed to be a "romantic advantage" with women until I came to these spaces. I never noticed, nor did I receive the "advantage"
but there's no escaping the fact that 6'2 guys can get away with so much more flaws bc of their height. . Tall dude just needs to look like he showers and is neurotypical. u/Hot_Lack_4868 u/bv0724 lol
They are looking for good looking dick, or at least if you're able to heavily compensate. I'm not rich, socially connected, nor would I consider myself charismatic or the type of funny that makes women laugh
Nope, No social aversion to women at all. I'm always interacting with women at my work, and joking and shooting the shit with my female coworkers and my homies GF's. No stuttering, going red, or freezing either.
My man, the women are the ones who don't want me lmao. Literally none, I'm not picky at all either lmao you're 6'3 Yeah, and women prefer a good face to a tall height lol u/Hot_Lack_4868 u/bv0724 this convo never ends lol
Incel who isn't the typical anti social, shut in, bad social skills, friendless, autistic, unhygienic, high inhibition, nerdy hobby, styless, high standards stereotype AMA
I used to frequent r/ tressless and a couple hair loss forums back during COVID, and the running joke was "the cure will be here in 5 years broooo" lmao
I never get indicators of interest from women, so I don't really holla at them. I'm not charming, interesting or funny enough to turn an uninterested chick in an interested one
I like curvy Hispanic, and white women with darker hair. Oh, Tattoos please I dress very West Coast streetwear vibe, and think I'm thinking about getting more Tattoos, a sleeve most likely.
rust belt See you and Mongo both live in the rust belt. I guess this is why you guys are so surprised that height alone doesn't help me lol Buying my ticket now!
Idk what t say dude. I've never had a chick check me out, or show any type of interest in me. I have great social skills, so I'd be capable of picking these things up
Because being a 5/10 face and standing at 6ft3 isn't even enough for that fat and ugly bitches around me. Im not even like these dudes here who want models, i want my league or several notches lower. I've been told irl and on here by a few people that I'm not ugly, shit some have said I was handsome(they're probably bullshittin in all honesty.) Sure you can say I don't deserve shit, but come on, not even an ugly chick being into me is ridiculous I
Idk I just can't think of anything honestly. I'm honestly not trying to ask my homies " yo guys I'm a 28 year old virgin. Why do you guys think so?" Either lmao
Don't know how much I can hang in there wi th this BS. I can say with 100% certainty I'm not doing anying wrong to where I'm still a 28 year old virgin. No autism, dress right, friends group, go out, no trouble socializing.
I was thinking of going bars and clubs From an undesirable 6'3 guy who used to go out to bars and clubs fairly regularly with his friends, don't waste your time lol
90% of the band chick at my high school were unfuckable. If I would've known I'd still be a virgin now, I would've joined band, met them, fucked, and kept in touch with them.
My only options are a loveless relationship, and that's it lol. I'd probably try to lock down the first woman who's actually attracted to me. Not for love, but for the sex.
Because you and I dont meet women physical attractiveness thresh. And no offense brotha, but you may be unattractive to them in non physical ways, double whammy bro
I think part of my problem is my unwillingness to conform to usual social rules. I've never really viewed myself as any kind of non-conformist. So much of socializing is about playing a part. Knowing what to say, when to say it, and what emotions you need to display. I struggle so much with this stuff and a large part of that struggle is that I've spent so much of my life not trying to be normal or trying to be liked. Crazy how you and me are the complete opposites in these regards, yet we've bo…
Uses to be McDonald's and my got to order would be a double qtr pounder with bacon, large fry, 6-pc nuggets and a caramel ice coffee. Now i got to a place called Roberto's and get Carne asada fries, 2 chicken tacos and a coke in a glass bottle😋
For me, kinda shitty ngl. No bitches, but I did get heat, Dry eyes and dehydration It is more cheaper than back in the harbor area of California, so I guess I'll stay here in Vegas
I'd only ask dudes who can rate like people on truerateme, or looksmax .org. every dude I've asked for a rating has said im fine, which is I know is BS.
True. But I'm just very curious as to how ugly I really am. I'm 28 and a virgin, no autism or mental problems, 6ft3, and apparently my balding isn't that noticeable
Won't be on here too much bro. I'm in a real horrible situation rn, and I also have that "other situation" that makes its way into my head. I'm just trying my best to hold things together lol
Getting 0 female attention(and I mean no woman)? There's plenty of guys here that already have that problem lmao Any short good looking dude here, I'd trade places with him in an instant lmao
You are 100% correct. Nobody gives a shit if you took a pic at the perfect angle, at MT Fuji lmao This is why I'm trying to do everything humanly possible to make myself hotter, and not listen to the people the say "b-b-but personality and hobbies 👆 "
Talking to women isn't a problem. I'm just not hot enough to where the juice would be worth the squeeze This is why I'm attempting to make myself more hot lol Also I didn't watch the video tbh.
It definitely gets overplayed on here. Mf's would have you think because you're not the Dos Equis Man, "The Most Interesting Man in the World", that is the reason you're struggling lol.
