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I dont see a specific question but for just general stuff I I always tell dudes this game is all attrition at the end of the day. You will lose more than you win and that's fine, you only need to win a few times. The key is you have get back up after you fail, the guys you see that succeed, they were just as clueless as you were but they kept getting back up. Dont be afraid of failure cause you will fail and that's fine, it's how you learn what not to do.
/r/seduction29/10/22 02:05 AM
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How to kill this “nice guy” attitude forever You have to actually believe in what you're doing. Honestly you dont really kill it totally until you reach a breaking point. You can "play a bad boy version" of yourself short term to get the feel of it but it doesnt really sink in until you're just fed up being a doormat all the time. How to approach a girl, if not nice at first? When you approach a girl your objective should be: make her feel something anything be it negative or positive. Being "ni…
/r/seduction29/10/22 02:00 AM
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What age range do you aim at? I'm around alot of 20 somethings so that's usually what I deal with. I'd never date women my own age, dont have to anymore. What's the lowest you're willing to go/think is okay? I've dated a couple of 18 yr olds. At first I was self conscious about it but whatever, stopped caring about what it. People always think I'm 25 so I dont get stares. How do things go with OLD I'm always honest about my age when asked, no use in hiding it, just own it. How do women react to …
/r/seduction26/10/22 02:08 AM
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There arent really universal negs.......you're suppose to adapt them to the girl you're talking to. For example implying a girl's beasts ain't shit doesn't work on a girl with DDs or implying that a girl is a dumb blond when shes a brunette is going to fall flat. When I do a backhanded compliment I dont have a script or universal cheat code, I look at the girl and quickly think about something she could be self conscious of and make fun of it. As to how I got to that point, I fucked up....alot. …
/r/seduction26/10/22 01:58 AM
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Its probably going to go badly, you have no experience doing it but you should still do it cause you cant gain the experience otherwise. You will fail, allow yourself to fail, then get back up, dust yourself off and try again. It's the only way to get good at this game
/r/seduction18/10/22 03:20 AM
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Ah I see. Then yeah nothing you can do there.
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:59 PM
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See thing is if that was the case I dont think she'd of bothered showing up. I've messed with some girls that arent into the whole push/pull or any kino cause they dont want to come off as easy/slutty or they're in a phase, etc and I needed to actually be a little more patient with them. Even if her mind was made up play it back in your head and think what you could of done better cause that's frankly the only thing you had control over. When I had women blow me off and I thought it was a flawle…
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:48 PM
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You could but it wouldnt have the outcome youd like.
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:34 PM
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Could be, I'll never know either way
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:34 PM
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I used to work at a night club and I'd flirt with the guests while on the clock because I understood I probably wasnt going to see them again so this was it. I mean its nice you're professional but dropping in her DMs typically doesnt turn out well. Think about it, she's likely a hot girl, has plenty of DMs in her inbox. What makes your DM any special. Do it but don't expect anything.
/r/seduction16/10/22 08:30 PM
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If you want to join her fan club yes, if you want to date no. You should of "grabbed her attention" at that party when you were in the flesh and the iron was hot
/r/seduction16/10/22 08:04 PM
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I didn’t do anything too different than I normally do You always gotta adapt to the situation. In my early days nightgaming I always had the same script but sometimes it didnt work so I'd have to throw it out and try something different on the spot or just make it up as I went under she responded well. ​ was super high interest before meeting called me cute and initiated the meet up This is why I say it's something on your end because she showed up so had some kind of interest. You just had to s…
/r/seduction16/10/22 07:47 PM
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Radio silent until the actual date. You need the space to build up the mystery and anticipation. If she texts in between I'll answer but it'll be short. Also will plan some alternative thing to do incase she flakes the day of.
/r/seduction16/10/22 07:19 PM
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Your mindset will only change when you start to rack up wins. To do that you need to actually put yourself out there and test the waters.
/r/seduction16/10/22 07:15 PM
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You probably came off a little heavy. Keep in mind a woman falls in love through her ears not her eyes so your looks IMO had nothing to do it. You likely came off as really tryhard and she wasn't into it. IMO go over the interaction in your head if you want to figure out what you did wrong. The fact you two met up means she was at least 51% interested. Everything else was in your court, you're auditioning to her at that stage anywho. So go over how the encounter went and figure out how you could…
/r/seduction16/10/22 07:10 PM
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This was very much the case at the time, what was worse though is 2 of my friends were right there and it went completely over their head too. We always joke about it nowadays.
/r/seduction16/10/22 06:34 PM
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At that time I had no belief in myself and had a inferiority complex. She was attractive but 25 year old me thought "no way white girls like dorky asian guys, she's just being polite"
/r/seduction16/10/22 06:29 PM
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Girls aren't socialized to do it, not that complicated.
/r/seduction16/10/22 06:01 PM
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You either have it or you don’t. There’s no way to fake it
/r/seduction16/10/22 03:13 PM
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Indeed. Gotta learn though
/r/seduction16/10/22 03:09 PM
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I feel like you need to do this at the first date or even after? Nah, do it ASAP to make it clear the interaction isnt platonic. The sexual tension is what separates the potential lover from just that friendly guy who's platonic. And yes...that means you have to take a risk and create sexual tension. You cant pussyfoot around the issue. Creating sexual tension can range from a simple stare her up and down, let her catch you and remark on it in a witty way to pointing at a feature shes self consc…
/r/seduction16/10/22 03:07 PM
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Yep, had a girl literally take my phone, put her number in it and then took a picture of herself to assign to it. My conclusion: shes just super friendly, no way shes into me like that.
/r/seduction16/10/22 02:54 PM
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In your case Yes, it's basically her saying "it's ok for you to talk to me" Girls dont approach like guys do, they generally will be indirect. At best she'll make it easy to talk her. Dont worry though, it's easy to miss. You wouldnt be the first guy to miss the "signs".
/r/seduction16/10/22 03:09 AM
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That's why you field test and figure out what your personal style is and then pick a PUA that reflects what you think will compliment your strengths and weaknesses. If you're a low energy introvert , pick a guy that also has low energy. If you're very in your face obviously pick a PUA that's very high energy, etc etc.
/r/seduction14/10/22 01:56 AM
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Typically I'd talk about last session, stuff I encountered on the drive in, restaurants, shows (one of the girls had a game of thrones shirt on) whatever was available. Dont overthink what to talk about, just make sure whatever you're saying seems genuine and you're not just feeding her a line. In her head she wants the encounter to seem "by chance" Which wasnt hard on my end cause I want trying to date anyone in my yoga class, I genuinely liked going and the vibe I put out put the girls at ease…
/r/seduction14/10/22 12:22 AM
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Go to Charlotte, it's a growing city and theres plenty of things to do there, also pretty target rich for dating. Wilmington is nice but it doesnt have as much variety as Charlotte does.
/r/seduction14/10/22 12:04 AM
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Indirect. Just start having conversations and it slowly goes from there. I used to go to yoga classes religiously and I'd basically have small talk with everyone (yes even the unattractive girls) before and after. I didn't view yoga class as a good source of dates and my tone and attitude reflected that so the girls got pretty comfortable with small talk. Also helped there was a whole foods right next to our yoga studio and many of us would go there after to chat a little more. I ended up dating…
/r/seduction12/10/22 10:34 PM
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Keep in mind she may like you at that time but that doesnt mean she'll feel the same way in a few days. Dont stress over the why so much, could be anything, just keep moving. Always source as many girls as possible, that way even if you have a frew flakes, you have other prospects.
/r/seduction07/10/22 01:09 PM
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Nope. Its a roll of the dice, nothing you can do on your end.
/r/seduction07/10/22 12:35 PM
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Standard practice is always dismiss the shit test with something witty and carry on with the encounter as if nothing happened. Do you push through those "tests" and keep escalating even if shes dull faced after she looks at you hard and smiles? Yes. Keep in mind It's literally a leap of faith. You will not know how you're doing until you experience her response in real time and then adjust on the spot or cut your losses. If shes responding well, keep doing what you're doing, if she isnt change t…
/r/seduction07/10/22 02:09 AM
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Flakes are just a fact of life in this game. Wont be the first nor the last. Dont stress over the why, could be anything on her end.
/r/seduction05/10/22 04:42 PM
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But it depends on the context I think. That can easily used as an excuse to prevent action. If I dont approach I know its cause I'm unprepared at the time, I dont tell myself well the timing was off or she didnt look open. I didnt approach cause I was lazy that day, didnt dress properly, my hair is looking off, I look like a mess, etc etc. Note I put the blame on me not some external factor. The external factor didnt put a gun to my head, I chose to do nothing. Gotta make sure you’re not thirsty…
/r/seduction05/10/22 04:33 PM
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Gotta risk coming off as a pest sometimes. Just dont be so cautious you hesitate. It's very easy to slip into inaction out of fear of perception.
/r/seduction05/10/22 02:47 PM
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Sometimes you will have to inconvenience yourself. The terrain will not always be in your favor, the timing may be awful. Gotta soldier on.
/r/seduction05/10/22 12:48 PM
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Dont think, just do. Just keep in mind whatever comes out of mouth next should generate some emotion in her, any emotion, laughter, angry, etc etc. The worst mistake guys make is overthinking, you will be ponderous and slow. In this game you need to be very quick witted and good at improvising. You only get there through lots of approaches and fuck ups. So dont beat yourself up too much if you crash and burn, you will and that's fine. You're get better with each encounter as long as you dust you…
/r/seduction05/10/22 12:30 PM
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it’s gonna be more often not appropriate. That's the wrong attitude to have, approaching women is always a risk and will at times yes be at "inappropriate " times. Stop acting like some dirty peasant and shes a royal. Women will be a lot more interested in mutually shared interest spaces. And it helps if you frequent said places as when you approach her she will be a little more at ease. However you cant always rely this. You have to be flexible enough to improvise if you encounter a woman in pl…
/r/seduction05/10/22 12:24 PM
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"How long you been together?" If she answers right away she does indeed have a BF, cut your losses. If she has to think about it she doesnt have one. "lemme guess, his name is xyz, you def look like the type that'd be into xyz" this is very situational and depends on her look. Either way if she answers quick, you know she has a BF, back off if she doesnt she'll stumble a bit to come up with a name How long you been together is my usual, saves the most time.
/r/seduction05/10/22 12:53 AM
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If you want to leave ass on the table by all means. At worse when she actually had a BF I simply ended the encounter and moved to next. You will waste time on girls in this game. That's just the nature of it, you have to invest some time, its attrition, most the contacts you get will be deadends anyways.
/r/seduction04/10/22 11:13 PM
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You cant avoid it OP. You learn to not be creepy by being creepy, having it blow up in your face and having the memory of it scarred into your physique. Next time you talk to a girl and start to get creepy that frame of reference will kick in and tell you "Oi! You're getting creepy, stfu and try something different" Then you'll adjust on the spot cause it's part of your muscle memory now. You will fuck up OP, that's fine, allow yourself to fuck up and understand it's part of the learning process…
/r/seduction04/10/22 10:14 PM
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Incorrect. Any sensible girl has to put up some resistance even if they're into you, most girls dont want to come off as easy. She doesnt know me, could be crazy or worse. She has to verify me as it could be unsafe to her. Throwing out "I have a bf" saves her time and lots of guys will be idiotic enough to believe it. I would of missed out on plenty of dates if I just believed it at face value.
/r/seduction04/10/22 10:06 PM
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If you come off super creepy and unconfident then yes. If you do it in a witty and flirty way she'll usually entertain your pitch. I've dated many girls who initially blew me off out of hand simply due to timing or they had four other guys try to talk to them prior, etc etc. Point is you just dont know so it doesnt hurt to investigate a little instead of running with your tail tucked between your legs.
/r/seduction04/10/22 01:02 PM
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It's a taxing road but if stick to, dust yourself off and keep trying you're gonna be fine.
/r/seduction04/10/22 05:49 AM
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Keep in mind you're coming at it from a womans perspective. What you consider good for you doesnt translate to a guy. I didnt just come to that conclusion out of my ass, its trial and error. The girls I've dated obviously dont know each other but a high percentage of them repeat certain patterns so it's got to natural. Do you really want the person to tolerate bad sex while you finish - just to be polite?! No I'd prefer the girl tell me my sex is trash so I can fix it instead of guessing but gir…
/r/seduction04/10/22 05:47 AM
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As long as you go in with the correct expectations. Too many guys dont understand the whole point of nightgame to thicken your skin, any dates you get from it are just happy accidents.
/r/seduction04/10/22 05:38 AM
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If you have no idea what to say and need a quick fix you could go with this. Walk up to a girl and say "look I dont have any game but let's see what happens". Its honest and witty. Keep in mind your tone should be very casual, dont go saying that in a slow monotone voice. This game is all attrition at the end fo the day. You will only improve by messing up and getting back up again. Each failure will develop your frame of reference and you'll be able to calibrate on the spot over time. You just …
/r/seduction04/10/22 05:33 AM
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The usual PUA script, start with disqualify, emotion spike, etc etc. Fine when you're starting out but unsustainable longterm. If you're going out to drink to just game just understand you're likely not goin to catch many fish but you will learn to thicken your skin and get over any approach anxiety.
/r/seduction04/10/22 05:23 AM
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What’s wrong with asking what someone likes in bed? It kills the mood and makes you seem incompetent. Better she learn of your incompetence after the deed cause at least she started with no expectations. You start right off advertising your incompetence, you already primed her expecting a negative experience. some guy fumbling around trying to read your mind. In my experience the majority of women either expect you to read their mind or dont want to seem rude and will tolerate bad sex for a time…
/r/seduction04/10/22 05:16 AM
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Well shit you need to try new hunting grounds then. When I was fresh faced and forced myself to go to clubs to nightgame (which I hate) I could get more than 3 numbers within a few hours and I was reading from a script.
/r/seduction04/10/22 05:04 AM
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Yes, I live in the same state as you. My GF is white, I'm east asian. Do not try to compete in the looks department. Asian men have a super unsexy sterotype, dress well and keep yourself groomed as it's a good habit but dont expect it to be of any help. Luckily girls fall in love through their ears and not their eyes so you just need to work on your charm/wit. The girls here do hesitate a little when dating out because everyone knows each other and will hear about it. The south is pretty tight k…
/r/seduction04/10/22 04:58 AM
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Oh you're get alot more done if you just approach them. I'm just super cautious/suspicious in the gym setting and only deal with whatever jumps in my net. Bear in mind, I've gone to the same gym for about 4 years and I've only had dates with 7 girls from that setting all through not trying. That's not a good return if you're trying to date as many girls as you can in that. In a setting I like more like a clothing/grocery store I can get 7+ alot quicker.
/r/seduction04/10/22 04:24 AM
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My gym is very target rich early in the morning when I go in. Also my desire to avoid/not interact with any females at the gym has gotten me 2 of those encounters.
/r/seduction04/10/22 04:08 AM
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It depends on the stores you frequent at said mall.
/r/seduction04/10/22 04:02 AM
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What are some of the IOI they gave you at the gym? It's usually either the starting game where she sneaks in some stares and let's me catch her staring or the girl actually come up to me and asks me a question or help she clearly doesnt need. Oh and there was another that kinda just hovered around the cooler in front of me with no intention of buying anything but forcing me to interact with her. So the girls ask you questions to get your attention? Yeah, it's always usually something that fits t…
/r/seduction04/10/22 04:00 AM
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I always assume the girl doesnt have a BF even if she does cause half the time shes only saying it to get rid of you. I will however investigate it by asking the BF's name in a witty way. If she answers super quick then I exit, if she hesitates now I know she lied and I proceed. If she doesnt have a BF and is unavailable I will cut my losses, way too much work to whittle her down. There was a time where I would but I dont have the patience for it anymore.
/r/seduction04/10/22 03:54 AM
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This game is all about attrition in the early days. You will fail ALOT OP and that's fine, what separates the guys that succeed in this game from those that fail is the former dusted themselves and tried again, the latter just gave up after a few or didnt even try.
/r/seduction04/10/22 03:49 AM
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I frequent the gym but I'd never daygame there. Firstly girls have their guard up massively in that setting and I dont have the patience to whittle it down, second I like my gym and have no desire to have a misunderstanding. I have picked up girls at the gym but only after giving me heavy IOIs and doing the whole ask me a question to get my attention opener. College is a good place too, great place to learn and experiment.
/r/seduction04/10/22 03:42 AM
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You choose a hunting ground where she feels safe. For example if you just walk up to a girl in the middle of a street at night her defenses will be up. However you run into a girl at a bookshop during the middle of the day and comment on what shes reading and it's a chance encounter, her defenses will be very low as it's the middle of the day and hopefully you actually know what shes reading to start the conversation. I'm coming off too "gamey" Thing is you kinda have to gamey to learn to stop b…
/r/seduction04/10/22 03:35 AM
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Daygame should always be done in places you naturally frequent. Dont go daygaming in places you dont go to, you will stick out and your vibe will be off cause you dont actually fit in there For example you wouldnt catch me daygaming in say a pet store as I dont actually like pets. In spite of this I have done it but the girls could tell right away I didnt belong there and my vice was off. I do however frequent restaurants and whenever I talk to women there it's like a chance encounter for her be…
/r/seduction04/10/22 03:27 AM
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You just accept you're going to suck in bed. No dude is good in bed the first couple of times, you just dont know anything to develop a frame of reference. Also never ask, frankly its your job to figure it out. Last thing you want to do is do what the previous guy used to do to her.
/r/seduction04/10/22 03:16 AM
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The main upside to casual relationships abroad is it puts you into a different mindset. It's not really any easier mechanically in attempting a relationship domestically. You still deal with the same BS, you just have a more take it or leave attitude cause you're out of country. ​ do you pursue casual relationships in you own city all the same? Yes. You should never be assuming every woman you meet is the last one you're ever going to meet or is going to be the mother of your children. Thats jus…
/r/seduction15/09/22 12:14 PM
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You expect way too much from your fellows. Most guys here want the quick answer and will learn the "useless bullshit" because it's simply quicker and instantly gratifying. Then after some time they will get tired of the useless bullshit because it's mentally exhausting and incongruent to their own character. Once they have that realization they be will genuine and "Not play games". I understand you prefer they skip the bullshit and just be genuine but I think thats highly unrealistic. Most guys …
/r/seduction10/09/22 02:20 PM
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I did get coaching and went to workshops but I'd say I learned alot more from my fellow students rather than the coach himself. Its key you find a coach that fits your vibe. When you start you will get into the habit of mimicking them and if you're not anything like the coach in question you're get discouraged quick. I wasted a good amount of cash going through a couple of coachs until I found one that I felt fit my style. For example if you're really introverted you should pick a coach that's m…
/r/seduction09/09/22 06:54 PM
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IMO it's a matter of motivation, not genes. Those that really want to get good at this game will force themselves to get good no matter what they're missing. I didnt have the stomach for this game nor the traits to excel until I was dying of thrist and basically forced myself to figure this stuff out. I'm normally not a fast learner either but starvation has a way of pushing you along. As to guys that are naturals, the reoccurring thing I've noticed is they hung around other guys who were also g…
/r/seduction09/09/22 06:48 PM
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They need the junk food to appriecate good food. Whether it's good or bad advice is up to the market. You been in this game longer than me, you shouldnt be this naive.
/r/seduction09/09/22 06:29 PM
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Gotta see the abyss so you know where to set up your boundaries I say. Everyone's abyss varies but you gotta see it for your own development.
/r/seduction09/09/22 02:19 PM
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I think the majority of guys who get into game start off being really phoney and performative and then get tired of that and then reach your mindset of being more honest. I dont think most start off so high minded. You teach the senior level courses and expect freshmen to get it. Most guys on this subreddit are freshmen, they dont know shit and just want to get started. To say shit tests dont exist to them IMO is irresponsible. This is my main disagreement with you. Most guys starting out are go…
/r/seduction09/09/22 01:55 PM
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Honestly I dont think shit tests are a bad thing, they're mostly non malicious and fun. I dont think girls wake up in the morning thinking about how they're going to torture their dates, I think it's just mostly just a sprue of the moment tease. But to act as if they dont happen is frankly malpractice and setting guys up for failure IMO. How is that any different than a girl doing it? It's only relevant in this case because the girl does the choosing in the beginning and most guys dont understan…
/r/seduction09/09/22 01:21 PM
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Why are you trying to clean it up so much my man. This game is dirty and thats fine and most dont reach your mindset until after they're done all the "con man" stuff. I agree with your mindset but I'm under no illusion most guys have to do all the phoney stuff first to reach that point. If you dont see the abyss you dont know where the boundary is. Nobody reaches your maturity off the bat, most guys here just want to get started and start getting wins. You overestimate people my man..
/r/seduction09/09/22 01:15 PM
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I've been in 6 years and in my experience even in honesty theres some sort of shit tests. When I was in my early days and was phoney yes the shit tests were silly and it was playing games. However even when I started to be blunt and honest the shit tests simply became subtle and less overt. You simply dont play game and walk away, fair enough but most arent going to do that let's be honest.
/r/seduction09/09/22 01:03 PM
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They certainly are a thing and to deny it is quite shortsighted. A girl taking a piece of food off your plate, that's a shit test. Girl playfully making fun of your hobby, that's a shit test. Sure they arent as silly as the shit test you see in PUA videos but they are certainly a thing.
/r/seduction09/09/22 12:55 PM
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Stop overthinking it. Most of the girls I've dated were at least a 10 year age gap, my current GF is 12 years younger than me. The only real difference between dating women your own age and women that aren't is just the latter require more patience and the former is usually more in a hurry.
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:42 PM
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I did simply to see if I could and its a headache I would recommend you don't do. Guy was stalking me like crazy and leaving notes and shit. Luckily my friends helped me sort it out but I know others who weren't as lucky and ended up alot worse. Also it was weeks where we could of done something else. Don't mess with girls with boyfriends, the dude might be crazy.
/r/seduction06/09/22 02:14 PM
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Yes but understand your height will be a weakness you have to compensate for mostly in how to not get insecure about it. You can't get any taller, all you can do is not let it affect you. Fix what can be fixed. I'm around 170 cm and have little issue. My height is always brought up jokingly by women but I never let it break my frame.
/r/seduction06/09/22 02:07 PM
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The space has grown since I first started going to workshops six years ago. Plenty of choices now, you just have to make the effort to seek them out. Do read the Game but the lesson you should take from the book is the limitations of his method. Pay special attention to the epilogue where Neil goes into the fate of his Australian student and how his relationship didn't last because he wasn't really the guy he was portraying. Faking it till you make it is fine if you're just starting out but it's…
/r/seduction06/09/22 01:49 PM
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A little exercise I used to use is whenever I'd talk to a woman I'd paint a very unflattering picture of her in mind to demystify her before chatting to her. This would usually range from imaging her taking a dump, burping after drinks or peeing in the corner. After that I no longer viewed the girl as a terrifying prospect but rather a hassle that came off as confidence to the girl.
/r/seduction30/08/22 12:43 PM
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You work on yourself, pick a trade that's very social that you actually like, do the best you can in that trade and over time your rep grows and women follow.
/r/seduction30/08/22 12:35 PM
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You overestimate how retarded guys can be and what common sense is at any given time. Tell an overweight slob to be himself and he gets a little hope he can skip bettering himself and just half ass his self improvement even though he kinda gets hes not suppose to do that
/r/seduction21/08/22 10:55 PM
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Just be yourself is the worse advice ever, what if that guy is an broke overweight introvert with no belief in himself..... You're setting people up for failure if you expect them to not need to do any work on themselves.
/r/seduction21/08/22 07:54 PM
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I'm a 5'7 136 pounds androgynous looking Asian guy and I have no problem. Stop using your physical traits as an excuse. Ultimately you're talking the girl into liking you, your looks just help you skip the line, they dont get you across the finish.
/r/seduction21/08/22 02:00 PM
1

Girls dont usually care about the politics, they like the fundraisers, chance to meet certain doners and to be seen.
/r/seduction20/08/22 03:04 AM
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I work politics
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:52 AM
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In short yes. Keep in mind certain social proof attracts certain types of women and limits your social circles. An instagram influencer doesnt move in the same circles as a fundraiser bundler the the types of women they deal with arent the same.
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:34 AM
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Social proof is your reputation/social status. Choosing signals are the nonverbals a girl gives you when she likes you. You get more of these as you grow your social proof and gain experience to recognize it.
/r/seduction20/08/22 01:37 AM
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I dont use apps. Early days I'd use cold approach mostly during the day. Nowadays I have enough social proof I can just go about my day and get choosing signals. As to success rate, it's all attrition at the end of the day. I have alot more Ls than I do Ws overall. It's simply the nature of this game.
/r/seduction19/08/22 11:37 PM
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I just wanted to log it to track my progress and collect data. Not for everyone as its very tedious to log every encounte.
/r/seduction18/08/22 04:11 AM
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Nah when I used to work at a department store I'd regularly ask out coworkers in different departments and of course have to see them again at work. Girls that blew me off and I had no physical way to contact them I just stopped talking to them. I only really text to set up dates and that's it, no small talk.
/r/seduction17/08/22 05:46 PM
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I just act like nothing happened and talked to them normally. Typically the girl is very awkward to see me again but I put them at ease. It confuses them and they get comfortable again. I dont however attempt to flirt with her again or give any extra attention. I keep contact to the very basics.
/r/seduction17/08/22 05:40 PM
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Yes if you're genuinely that guy. If you're not dont try to be. Taking shit though is mandatory in a witty way of course.
/r/seduction17/08/22 05:18 AM
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I'm a 5'7 slim androgynous looking asian guy with shaved sides long hair that dresses well.
/r/seduction17/08/22 05:16 AM
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Only if you want to. I was just really into pickup during that season so logged everything
/r/seduction17/08/22 05:14 AM
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Night game was just frustrating cause they see you coming so you deal with so much shit tests. Valuable to learn but it wore me out. Daygame the girls let their guard down a bit more cause they dont expect it and theres usually lots of people around so shes comfortable. The biggest issue was getting used to having an audience but I was so annoyed at night game by then I just didnt care and the settings I was in were very natural to me so I fit in versus the club.
/r/seduction17/08/22 05:13 AM
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His black Philip show. Theres also gems in his standup but his radio show is where the gems are
/r/seduction16/08/22 09:16 PM
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No follow up, just write it off, if she texts back cool, she doesnt meh
/r/seduction16/08/22 07:02 PM
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Mainly mental. I would always overthink interactions and itd make me slow, ponderous and unnatural because I was to afraid to just be blunt and honest. Then I found Patrice O'neal and he taught me to be brutally honest and unapologetic. When I conquered that fear interactions became more natural and I enjoyed them more cause I stopped walking on eggshells.
/r/seduction16/08/22 05:50 PM
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This wont be the first nor last flake. As to why she flaked who knows, maybe she had a better deal, whatever. However this didnt help you My last question is that “so I’m going to see you Tuesday?”. This comes off as pretty needy and unsure of yourself. I don’t want to say hey it’s fine for blowing me off. Actually its exactly what you do. I've actually gotten dates from girls that blew me off and very confused when it didnt seem to bother me. However you do more so for your own dignity, self re…
/r/seduction16/08/22 05:19 PM
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I really don’t understand this train of thought relationships Its just nature. No matter how civilized we get we're still herd animals at the end of the day. Relationships end because of a variety of reasons. Theres usually factors you can point to and if you compare notes with others that went through the same thing patterns show up. How do you think I get women, I recognized the patterns and how to exploit them. I literally have no idea what we you think are even competing for Frankly no reaso…
/r/seduction16/08/22 04:45 PM
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Indeed but I still think every guy should go through the hell of night game just to learn basics and thicken their skin. I loathed it and have little but bad memories but it prepared me later when I was calibrating.
/r/seduction16/08/22 04:23 PM
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I hated clubs/bars (thickened my skin quick tho) so moved to daygame in shops. Lots of my Ws came from picking up women in high end grocery stores/restuarants cause I use to be a chef so I'd fly under the radar talking about what was in their cart or what they were eating and then slip in some sexual tension and usually a insta date.
/r/seduction16/08/22 04:10 PM
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ins and outs of female friendships something you have no first hand experience in It comes from first experience, I commonly manipulate female friendships to sleep with them so that's how I know. I’m not, being charismatic, conversational and magnetic are not easy skills to master I'm far more impressed if a woman can actually keep the guy she likes not attracting him. A woman's game is different from a guys, keeping the guy they want is usually their struggle not getting him. Competition for wh…
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:53 PM
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According to my notebook from 2016-2020, all in field. Flirted with in person? 237 Asked on a date 144 Been on a date with? 49 Gotten sexual with? 33 Been in a LTR with? 2
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:42 PM
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I don’t understand how you think think this works. You havent been around as long as I. One cannot argue against results at the end of the day. I’m impressed by my friends that are good with guys You're easily impressed I’m also impressed by my friends that get really good grades, You should, they had to actually work for that are really good looking Not that impressive, they just won the generic lottery make a lot of money and travel a lot. This is impressive because again they worked for it So…
/r/seduction16/08/22 02:59 PM
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Possessions like a boat, latest gaming console, excellent kitchen setup, etc.
/r/seduction16/08/22 02:11 PM
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Your average man doesnt have that friend and if they do the novelty of him having female attention wears off pretty quick. He cant share his success with women with his friends but he can his toys.
/r/seduction16/08/22 01:41 PM
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It's because stastically women value attention more than men and getting a compliment from someone she considers an equal or better validates her and "ups her stock" among her peers. For men its stuff. People inherently understand the hierarchy even if they want to be blind to it and it's not always bad. Sure some people kick the ladder down but others try to lift up their peers.
/r/seduction16/08/22 09:03 AM
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Yeah exactly my fuckin point... They don't give a damn the hell I've been through long And they never will upfront, its like picking up a snake and getting mad it bit you. It's a snake they do that. A woman you just met isnt going to give a shit about your experience with no emotional connection. I see zero point in a relationship If a girl don't care to hear it Its simply nature, in cave man days it was dangerous for a woman if her mate was a weak link cause she'd be in trouble. No matter how c…
/r/seduction16/08/22 08:38 AM
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Girls care but they brush it aside if they like you enough. Also you do care cause if you didnt you wouldnt of brought it up. Everybody is damaged goods, I'm damaged goods but moved past it. A girl isnt your therapist and will resent having to be one constantly, shes not your mom. You need to be whole cause you will be tested and suffer if you play this game. Lots of girls are gonna say fuck you but you only need one yes to win.
/r/seduction16/08/22 08:04 AM
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Write a list of traits you want in a guy Cut the list in half Be honest and ask do you qualify for that guy Cut the list again Figure out where this guy with these things on your list hangs out and go there When there get his attention by either doing the typical "send him signals" that are going to be lost on most men or woman up and actually talk to him, even the most clueless of guys will usually get that this means you like him.
/r/seduction16/08/22 07:56 AM
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It's not for everyone, just be sure to know what you're getting into before you dive in. Dating sucks at times sure and the learning curve will drain you emotionally and mentally but if after all that you survive the world is your oyster. Online dating is just beating your head into a wall. Always try to meet girls in the wild in the field where you have access to all your skills. Online dating just shows your external stuff.
/r/seduction16/08/22 07:45 AM
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I can’t even be completely honest to my therapist Its why you get a new therapist ​ Others don’t, like me. You just want to mislead people I'd be blowing sunshine up your ass if I was going to mislead not telling you to take your pity party elsewhere. Yeah life can suck but frankly get over it, there's always someone that had it worst and they moved past it. The world doesn't owe us understanding, its whatever we make it and there's no one to complain to to fix it for us. This game is cold and i…
/r/seduction16/08/22 06:07 AM
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I’m in therapy, I’ve been in it for 6 months. I’m not getting better Then try a new therapist, I've gone to therapy before and had to go through a couple before I found one that got me ​ I have tried and I failed, like many here have. I’m done. Then play elsewhere instead of poisoning the air for those that want to try. ​ I used to be able to cold approach and I just can’t anymore. Im older and less able to socialize. I don’t want to make women uncomfortable. If you're unwilling to play this gam…
/r/seduction16/08/22 05:44 AM
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My current plan is to buy a gun and blow my brains out You're in the wrong place then and need help. ​ Some guys never do Yep and the world moves on indifferent either way. This subreddit is for those who want to try, not start a pity party. ​ I’ve tried. No you havent cause you're here asking how to try. If you tried you'd have a report to give and we'd give feedback to adjust for the next try.
/r/seduction16/08/22 05:29 AM
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I just can’t bring myself to do it You're just not motivated enough yet. Starve a man long enough and he will try anything, that's what got me. You seem to of already eaten, fair enough. ​ Maybe I don’t wanna make a woman feel uncomfortable for no reason Then don't, everybody has to develop their own method at the end of the day. ​ And I’m not a huge fan of life anyway so I’m ok with dying alone Gotta be comfortable being alone before you introduce another person into your life anyways. Not bein…
/r/seduction16/08/22 04:52 AM
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I’ve been told I've been told that too.......by my family but funny enough girls seemed to all think I'm gay cause I look kinda androgynous which I did so fixed it. In short I wouldnt place much value in it unless its coming from the buyers mouth. Keep in mind even if you are handsome you still gotta be lacking somewhere else. Everyone can always improve somewhere else. ​ Cold approaching has worked for me in the past but I haven’t done it in nearly 9 years If thats the case you gotta dust off t…
/r/seduction16/08/22 04:41 AM
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looked like my Dream Girl Keep that to yourself and tightly or you will come off as desperate. She's just a person not a goddess, she eats like you do and her shit sinks like yours. Remember you already have an opening as you had that awkward stare off. If she brings up you looking away/fleeing to to be witty just counter by making fun of something she was wearing last time like "Oh your accessories/shirt was just so bad/etc etc I had to turn away". Obviously say it sarcastically.
/r/seduction16/08/22 04:14 AM
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If you're dissatisfied with your pond find another pond. If you're not willing to go to another pond don't complain and figure how how to hunt in your current pond. ​ Then finally those that do not will be too young by social standards Who gives a fuck. The moment I noticed in my 30s that I had access to younger women and just said fuck it lets try this I didn't want to go back. Do people look at you funny yeah but I don't care and nor should you. It was a massive difference from dating women my…
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:50 AM
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But, do you think it would be acceptable to go back & make a conversation of the area & ask for Her number? Firstly, you don't need permission. It makes no difference if its acceptable or unacceptable. Go for what you want, don't doubt. ​ She would probably recognize Me Thats kinda the point, it gives you something to talk about. For example when I was in your situation and went up to speak to the girl I just opened with "You can't just stare and not give me a name" and took it from there.
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:37 AM
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Not the phony kind that quickly disappears when shit gets tough Honestly in the beginning most of us are cosplaying a more confident version of ourselves. You have to learn somewhere. You only really develop true confidence after fucking up alot, adjusting and racking up wins. ​ So how do you develop a confidence that remains intact even after all this? Surviving. You dust yourself, figure out what you could of done better and go talk to the next girl. Overtime you thicken your skin and just don…
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:31 AM
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I always reread as a refresher. Some books I throw out but Models is one that stays on the book shelf. I've been on this particular journey for about 6 years now and while my game is pretty tight I always go back to where I started to refresh or help others.
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:19 AM
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Simply put Dick is cheap, plentiful and inexperienced in auditioning for Pussy. Pussy isn't as plentiful because it runs the auditions and chooses only what it deems the top tier which most men will not fall under. Its why I always tell guys don't play with online unless you have an amazing profile and are blessed with good looks as those are favored with online dating.
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:15 AM
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I always use something around me as a kind of conversational prop as it tends to fly under the radar and flows better in the conversation. Could be me commenting on how her outfit makes her look, her body, how an object looks like a certain body part, how food effects sex etc etc. ​ If her response is the confused "was that sexual innuendo?" or shes really into then I escalate.
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:04 AM
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First you need to be very brutally honest with yourself. Understand your strengths and weaknesses, fix what you can and then play to your strengths and try to patch up weaknesses. If you're not a handsome guy, obviously you can't rely on that which is fine cause ultimately you're gonna have to talk the girl into liking you anyways, your looks only let you cut the line, charm gets you across. If you're an introvert with low energy, you better learn to carry yourself with that quiet confidence, et…
/r/seduction16/08/22 02:55 AM
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Is that a Queue a Girl is interesting in you? Yes, she looked at you but you fucked it up by looking away instead of letting her know you caught her staring. No worries though, we all do it, I've done it. Its how you learn not to do it again ​ She was so beautiful, please Help, i might go back next week on Monday to see if She’s there & get Her number. If you go back don't go in with that attitude. You already have a good opener as you can bring up her staring.
/r/seduction16/08/22 02:45 AM
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Most guys will never approach a group of girls unless they have a wingman to assist. Theres entire threads dedicated to approaching groups of girls. If you want a guy to approach you'll have to leave your friend and be alone, puts him at ease. However even then many guys just wont approach. If need be you could....do what most girls dont, go talk to the guy. Ask him a dumb question, anything. If we like you we dont care what dumb thing comes out of your mouth
/r/seduction03/03/22 11:08 PM
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I’m good at speaking once I’m there I just suck at finding the confidence to actually approach, and turn my casual talk and humour into something “sexual” When I had this problem I'd paint a very unflattering picture of the girl in my head to demystify her in my eyes. To the point I felt like I was doing her a favor even being in her presence. As for creating sexual tension, you just have to say fuck it and go for it and believe in it. If you dont want to vocalize it you can easily just stare he…
/r/seduction03/03/22 08:07 PM
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How would you feel if you were on your way somewhere and someone stepped in front of you to sell you car insurance? Different context, the insurance salesman isnt trying to have sex with me, they're selling me insurance. Cold approach's whole end goal is to attempt to have sex with the person. but also being aware that approaching where the woman doesn't feel like she's being isolated off from everyone Thing is you wont know this until you do it and recognize it. You have to be a creep to learn …
/r/seduction03/03/22 05:07 PM
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I would imagine that there would be basic rules and procedures to follow that would make that line very easy not to cross. Do they not exist? Theres basic rules but they go out the window when you're actually in front of the person. In order to get good at this you have to develop your calibration, in order to build that you have to gain frames of reference which you only get from screwing up. If you're worried about crossing lines you will never get good at this simply because you will always b…
/r/seduction03/03/22 03:07 PM
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So how can I go about cold approaching, but respectfully? You're setting yourself for failure off the bat. If you go in with that mindset you will be robotic, unnatural and walk on eggshells. Cold approaching is an act of faith, it's risky, can be ugly but without risk theres no reward. it’s a thin line to cross between cold approaching and creeping out a woman by making her uncomfortable. The thing is you wont know the line unless you cross it. You WILL creep women out and make them uncomfortab…
/r/seduction03/03/22 02:02 PM
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You should be making bank for yourself not women. Make the money, invest in yourself, women will show up. Most CEOs and bosses dont do what they do for women, they did it for profit and getting wealthy. Why else do you think most of them are terrible with women. But Is my strategy still good then? The whole idea of making bank first and then quitting that altogether before thinking about a lifestyle like this? Its unsustainable longterm but I get it you want to get a taste. What you should be do…
/r/seduction01/03/22 09:02 PM
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similar playboys that allows them to use the language they do(stuff like “fu@k bitches”) Its cause he believes in what hes saying and holds frame. When I was still a student doing PUA workshops one of our exercises was to repeat the extact phase our coach gave us. When we did it women instantly were appalled cause we didnt have any belief in what we said. But when our coach did it the women would tease him and laugh cause he held frame. So, is the solution if I want to live a partyboy lifestyle …
/r/seduction01/03/22 08:34 PM
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Some photographers go to clubs, typically are talking to prospective models and I notice it and inquire. Not that complicated. Also some IG models use photographers which I will contact.
/r/seduction06/02/22 07:18 AM
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They just got free entry and drinks so about $80 each girl. If I got a party planner to empty out a modeling agency we may pay a finders fee we'd negotiate, easy 4 figures. Photographers were usually super chill and just wanted free entry and networking introductions at the club.
/r/seduction06/02/22 07:11 AM
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I used to be a club promoter and had to source women to fill up the club, most of them were the IG model type Id usually go the following people photographers party planners the model herself These people were always just a walk away from the club and provided great networking opportunities. Photographers were a good source of specific girls, party planners usually knew modeling agencies so could get you sheer volume. Also since I had social proof I could just invite the model herself.
/r/seduction06/02/22 06:56 AM
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She enjoyed her chat with you, realized she was crossing a line/emotionally cheating/has a BF and then unfriended you to avoid complications. I've been down this road. Hit it off with a girl, she had a boyfriend, I pushed on as practice and actually got her, her BF found out, some drama but he was a punk and backed down. It was a mess, dont reccomend. Dont mess with girls with boyfriends, too many headaches. Just leave the door open and move on to girls who are single. Even if you got her, the f…
/r/seduction24/01/22 04:34 AM
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I try to take her on a instant date if possible, most dont expect it and it gives her something to talk about with her girlfriends later. Also it's a big time saver. Failing that I take her number cause it's more direct. Instagram is just joining her fanclub and snapchats can get buried in the notifications.
/r/seduction24/01/22 04:26 AM
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You get emotionally numb after a certain amount of bodies. Thing is most guys never reach this and are in constant hunger. When I was finally sexually satisfied and emotionally numb I could actually focus on other things. Also the quality of women went up cause I was more willing to leave cause I valued my time cause I wasnt in scarcity. You're know when you get there when you stop and think to yourself "holy shit, I didnt even like her that much, I could of been doing something else that I actu…
/r/seduction24/01/22 04:20 AM
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Presently I suggest you find guys that seem to have the results you want and talk to/watch them. You need some hope presently to counter that defeatist mindset you have before anything else. When I was in your shoes I literally went hat in hand to anyone who seemed to be getting what I wanted and just shadowed them and took notes. When I found guys that looked like me or in similar situation as me actually succeeding it gave my hope to actually try and overtime that got me into self improvement …
/r/seduction11/01/22 07:10 PM
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By happenstance a girl I hooked up with at a convention had mutual friends. I had our mutural friend ask her and she said she felt kinda slutty for hooking up with me that quickly and assumed I wouldnt take her seriously. She wasnt wrong as I viewed her as a great potiental FwB but she was looking for an actual boyfriend and understood she gave it up too fast with me and wanted to cut her losses. In your case though you talked your way out of it somewhere simply because her reaction on your date…
/r/seduction11/01/22 06:57 PM
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I’m getting interested in taking this serious. Not your call, the girl sets the pace. You just agree to go steady or not when shes ready and asks you. Reading all the other advice, everyone says to give her some space and let her come to you. Yes because when you bake something you dont constantly open up the oven and check it. Women require more time to like you and they need lots of time to think it over and talk to their friends about it. How does one do this even? Just distract one’s self an…
/r/seduction11/01/22 06:43 PM
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Standard procedure for getting exs back is no contact. You dissapear out of her life full stop as if you never existed and move on with your life. If she has any interest the distance and time will make her see you through rose colored lenses and then she will reach out lowkey to test the waters. Then you treat it like a new encounter as the relationship is now "reset". Bare in mind when you leave you dont wait on her, you literally move on with your life and do other things. If she cares enough…
/r/seduction11/01/22 06:35 PM
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Find older Male mentors. I'm not the son of a single mom but most of the guys I'd go to boot camps with were and we'd hang out outside of boot camps to work out and stuff. We took some jujitsu classes and the older guys there were super helpful in teaching us what's what. They were basically older brothers/surrogate dads for us outside of class.
/r/seduction11/01/22 06:26 PM
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The books can be loosely described as cheat codes but if we continue with that analogy you still need to develop the skills to take full advantage. It's like playing a video game with good equipment and a few levels ahead but you havent developed actual skills so still get wrecked. Ultimately you have to get in the field and learn through trial and error.
/r/seduction11/01/22 02:28 PM
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Be passionate about something. Even introverts get excited when they're sharing something they're super passionate about. Then suddenly they have alot to say. I once had a 2 hour conversation with a girl about DMing and she had no idea what I was talking about but loved my passion for it and the good vibe I was putting out. If a girl likes you enough nothing that comes out of your mouth will be boring. expect me to carry the conversation the entire time. It wont feel like such a chore when you'r…
/r/seduction11/01/22 04:34 AM
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My question is, those who read these book or one of them, did you dating/sex life/ interactions with women change for the better ? Those books were great introductions and taught me theory and concepts but ultimately I needed to learn in the field through trial and error. You cant pause an interaction with a woman and quickly refer back to your notes and books. I did this constantly in my early days and it made me super ponderous and unnatural like some robot and girls could just feel it. I'd st…
/r/seduction11/01/22 04:15 AM
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In the epilogue of "The Game" the author goes into what became of some of his students. One who stood out was an Australian guy that got his wife through pick up but it didnt last because ultimately he wasnt the guy he portrayed himself to be. Pick up is useful but ultimately its cosplay. Good short term but unsustainable long term. The only problem is there is no financial incentive to admit this as you need to get students to keep buying programs and boot camps. I had this realization after I …
/r/seduction07/01/22 08:44 PM
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I always disliked and still dislike nightgame but it was useful and I always tell everyone to do it just to get over approach anxiety and to thicken your skin. After you get over approach anxiety and have a thick skin you can move on to other areas. If you think night game will actually get you lots of results youll just end up disappointed. If you understand it's just an exercise to thicken your skin and interact with women you'll be fine.
/r/seduction07/01/22 08:27 PM
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I will never make a move unless i'm 110% sure she likes me back. That's your problem. You hesitate unless it's a easy lay up. When you meet a girl for the first time she needs to quickly categorize you to manage time because she likely gets hit on often. If you're being super friendly, ponderous and cautious (cause you need 110% success rate) she will get friend vibes from you and put you there. If you flirt, tease her and more importantly risk rejection (what you arent doing) then she understan…
/r/seduction23/12/21 02:32 PM
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Do things that make you feel confident. This can range from changing your wardrobe, working out, getting a new hair cut, etc etc.
/r/seduction23/12/21 02:05 PM
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If you're constantly getting put in the friendzone then you dont show intent. If you give off friend vibes she will put you in the friendzone, if you create sexual tension then she understands this iant going to be a "friendly" interaction.
/r/seduction23/12/21 02:02 PM
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Is it bad? It can be if you abuse your power. When is it bad? When you abuse your power. Keep in mind the woman is voluntarily giving you power due to trust, emotion, etc etc. Is it considered manipulation? Seduction is manipulative, is what it is but theres choice at the end. Can it be good? If you're a competent and benevolent leader yes. Can you control a woman to the point where she wants you regardless of all logic? Yes Can you control a woman you just met? No unless you have serious social…
/r/seduction23/12/21 03:08 AM
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Perhaps i'm being pessimistic ? Answered your own question, yes you are. I can feel it through your message. Bare in mind your title was "I have no options". You at least are self aware you have a problem. How can i tell if someone is legit interisted in me Dont worry about that yet, work on being someone interesting and fix that lack of self confidence you have. If someone is legit interested they're linger around you, wait on your word, etc etc. Again shouldnt be thinking that far ahead with y…
/r/seduction23/12/21 02:57 AM
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I always make sure I make the girl nut at least once, then I do what I want to do. Also dont fuss over how you make her nut, most guys want to do it with pen but its alot easier to use your mouth or a toy.
/r/seduction23/12/21 02:52 AM
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Early 30s here, I've had alot more options than I did in my 20s so much so that I actually turn women down I'd of killed to have access to as a 20 something. You just know more in your 30s than your 20s and you're more seasoned. Obviously if you havent done any work or havent progressed at all from 20 to 30 then you're in deep shit. You dont just turn 30 and women show up. You usually do all your fucking up in your 20s and then by your 30s you have lots of frames of references of women and can n…
/r/seduction16/11/21 03:33 AM
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are u able to get into a monogamous relationship Yes, only difference is you wont be in as much a rush as you have alot more references of women to determine which one is GF material. a lot of PUA’s end up chasing girls all life and having open relationships Keep in mind PUAs have an audience they need to perform for. In is in their best interest to remain "in character" for potential customers even if it may not be good for their mental health It's a financial death sentence for a PUA to settle…
/r/seduction15/11/21 05:12 PM
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I never said I was offended or that it is creepy if only a male does it, you are creating a false narrative. Nitpicking over semantics is admission of prudishness/offense. Put simply either English is your second language or you are retarded. And English being my second language somehow disqualifies my opinion? Hunting implies hostility and force, I shouldn't have to explain to anyone over the of age 5 why using that word in this context is off. Seduction can be hostile and forceful though. That…
/r/seduction15/11/21 04:11 PM
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Sometimes starvation is a excellent motivator. That's what drove me. You will be scared as shit the first couple of encounters but as you keep going you will get over it. Yes you will be cringy, girls will tell you to fuck off, etc etc. But those failures will give you a frame of reference of what not to do next time. Yes that's terrifying but that's the nature of this game.
/r/seduction09/11/21 03:25 PM
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That's what seduction is....hunting. I dont talk to a hot girl cause I want to be her buddy, I want access to her body. Shes hunting something too but her hunt only begins after I've made the investment. A guy's hunt is on the front end, the girl's hunt is on the backend. Both sexes hunt, why is it only creepy when a male does it. If terminology offends your ears you may be too soft for this game.
/r/seduction09/11/21 04:51 AM
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How can I cold approach without harassing? You will not know until you see what her reaction is How to cold-approach most respectfully? You cant as that will make you self edit yourself. It is literally a leap of faith. You have to risk offense and rejection How to tune the approach to the setting (daygame vs nightgame) to minimize the harassment-ness? By doing it and yes failing. Guys always want to pussyfoot around but you cant in this game. You have to just do it, fail and learn from the fail…
/r/seduction08/11/21 04:09 PM
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Working out is for you as it boosts your confidence and develops discipline. It's your demeanor from working out that ultimately will attract the girl not your muscles themselves. Girls fall in love through their ears, men through their eyes.
/r/seduction26/10/21 02:38 AM
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The game's rigged sure but the moment you figure out the rules and understand what's out there you will excel. It’s so amusing to me, like if you are not attracted to me and know in your head you’d 100% never cohabitate with a man like myself why bother to entertain my bs and waste my time? Girls dont like confrontation and are rightfully concerned over the reaction of guys they dont know well. It's a defense mechanism, yes sucks for you but it's good for her. tell me how to smoothly transition …
/r/seduction26/10/21 02:35 AM
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Not sure how this sub feels about canned lines When I started I had a script until I could just come up with stuff on the spot. Everybody has to start somewhere. Main thing is you gotta allow yourself to fail. The main problem most guys have is after a bad loss they dont get back up and try again. The guys that succeed are the ones that got back up and tried again
/r/seduction17/10/21 03:58 PM
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but is his whole thing about negging a girl basically? Patrice's negging differs from textbook PUA as Patrice's is confrontational and atomic. Textbook PUA negging is meant to be light and playful. But what's relevant to you is his conviction in himself, his self belief in himself as that's really your problem. very 'logical', Cant be logical when seducing, you'll be slow and ponderous. It's all improv which requires quick thinking and adjusting in real time. You only develop that calibration by…
/r/seduction17/10/21 03:38 PM
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Look up Patrice O'Neil and watch his lessons/black phillip show. He was a tall fat black guy who had the same problems you had and worked through them. Do bare in mind you can read/watch as many resources as youd like, ultimately to get good at this game you will need to field test and fuck up. The fuck ups are what help you internalize what you can improve upon.
/r/seduction17/10/21 03:23 PM
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Honestly most of the time you arent going to get a penetration organism anyways. That's what your fingers and tongue are for. Understand that some women will comment on it and be sure to have an answer for it.
/r/seduction16/10/21 03:28 PM
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I try, you give people honesty and they dont want it and prefer a sweet lie.
/r/seduction16/10/21 04:21 AM
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You're suppose to pitch the idea to the second girl, get her contact when she agrees and let your primary girl talk with her and organize it. This puts her at ease and reassures her. You cannot organize it as the guy. Your primary girl will get jealous and territorial. You have to let the women organize it after you source the other girl.
/r/seduction14/10/21 05:46 PM
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But who wants to talk to the guy about that? If you're getting another guy that's a train not a threesome. In that case you do need to organize it completely.
/r/seduction14/10/21 05:41 PM
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Its alot faster if the guy does it. In my experience girls loath having to source out the other girl and they already take long enough to vet and figure out the logistics of the threesome once you give her the contact info. Also I rather pick the second girl rather than let the primary girl pick for me.
/r/seduction14/10/21 04:54 PM
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The primary girl that's down with it I would consider a relationship with. Yeah you keep going through women until you find one that's down for it. If shes not you get another one who will.
/r/seduction14/10/21 02:17 PM
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If you want consistent threesomes you find a primary that's down with it and give her the GF title. The primary girl is always jealous and requires reassurances. If you're expecting consistent threesomes with girls youre casually seeing it's very unlikely.
/r/seduction14/10/21 01:55 PM
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I've been trying to set one up myself You always let the women set it up. All you're suppose to do as the guy is get the contact info of the second girl and bring it to your primary girl and hang back.
/r/seduction14/10/21 01:45 PM
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I never mentioned who pays for dates. I said that having money is evidence that I am not dating a guy because I need money. Guys expect we're going to pay for the date. We're genuinely surprised if we arent. Also we value actions, not words. You can say till you're red in face you dont want a guy's money, doesnt mean a thing until your actions show otherwise. This isnt to attack you, this is to help you understand guys are generally "believe it when I see it" I want what I said. Which was super …
/r/seduction14/10/21 08:15 AM
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^ this Might let you cut a line here and there but its effectiveness is grossly exaggerated.
/r/seduction14/10/21 06:24 AM
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I used to borrow my friend's pet rabbit. It's cute and allows sexual jokes about rabbits fucking.
/r/seduction14/10/21 06:22 AM
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Less than 3% Your competition isnt much fellas so get out there.
/r/seduction14/10/21 06:17 AM
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I mention my job, so he knows that I'm not using him for money Unless you're Australian most guys expect to pay. We understand there has to be some investment on our end whether you're a businesswoman or struggling student. obviously, if something is relevant after a guy likes you physically, it's relevant. Its not if you dont get past the first phase. For example when a guy meets you the first time he already wants to sleep with you. We only go through the courtship process because we understan…
/r/seduction14/10/21 06:14 AM
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I am normal I dress weirdly These are contradictory look good This is frankly the only thing we care about upfront have a job Your job doesnt make you any more attractive to a guy. The cute cashier girl is just as attractive as the high class lawyer girl. good chat This is only relevant if we already like you physically. Guys have plenty of guy friends to chat with. My list is: not a brute/pervert, sweet to people from different walks of life instead of guffawing, wants marriage These are super …
/r/seduction14/10/21 04:42 AM
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not a fan of that phrase as it sounds a little awkward, but it’s the best one Stop worrying about semantics, doesnt matter what something is called, if it works it works doesnt matter what it's called or it offends. The guys that are successful dont walk on eggshells. I can never seem to gauge when it is appropriate and I probably end up falling into the friend zone because of it. You wont know when it's appropriate until after you've done it and see how she responses. You literally have to just…
/r/seduction13/10/21 08:12 PM
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I am balding Shaved head is a choice, balding isnt. Shave it off, better to look like a skinhead than a sex offender. I am very overweight. Yeah fix that, get to healthy BMI, eight is completely under your control I have small eyes, and a face that has been called ugly on several occasions Cant do much about that, understand it will be brought up, work around it. Looks just let you cut the line. Your tongue is what gets you across the finish line anyways. I tend to be humorous and light hearted,…
/r/seduction13/10/21 08:07 PM
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You accomplish it by doing, failing and doing it again. When you're talking to a girl you cant pause and check your notes. You will fail but that's how you learn what not to do. Again dont look worry about little watches/reads right now. Right now you just need to talk to women with the objective of making her feel something like making her laugh, pissing her off, anything. After you do that then you can compare notes and adjust because you will have raw data to work with now. Then you can think…
/r/seduction13/10/21 07:57 PM
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Salute, you probably had a great vibe from the bar and the cashier girl dug it.
/r/seduction13/10/21 04:34 PM
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Keep in mind humour can easily go into platonic. Creating sexual tension is what separates a platonic conversation to a romantic one and the hardest part guys have. Only thing you should be thinking about in a conversation with a girl you like is did you make her feel anything emotionally. How you get there is irrevalant focus on the endgoal.
/r/seduction13/10/21 04:31 PM
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It is easy to say connection when one has already eaten. Most of the guys on this subreddit are starving I actually agree with you that "connection"/ulititly with a woman is preferable but you dont really get there until you've had the frivolous sex. Gotta chase that random sex, nut couple of times before you finally realize "oh shit theres other things I could be doing with my life instead of this"
/r/seduction12/10/21 06:35 AM
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This is only because you don't understand how to show intent without being direct. I think we're having a miscommunication. When I say the whole point of indirect approach is not showing intent, what I mean is the girl doesnt perceive you talking about paint drying as you actually trying to date her. You and I as dudes know the actual motive but I'm referring to how the girl should perceive it. You can talk about paint drying to random girl on the street (indirectly) Yet be super direct with eye…
/r/seduction08/10/21 03:20 AM
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1) make a list of traits youd like in a mate 2) cut the list in half 3) figure out where a person with those traits hang out 4) go to that place 5) mingle If you're still having trouble cut the list of traits in half again. Online dating is for hookups. You sound like you want a quality relationship, those generally happen when you're physically there and present.
/r/seduction07/10/21 07:40 PM
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Your first comment alone indicates you are very bitter Shaming language is an admission you dont have a counterpoint. Its often used to make the person you have a disagreement with prove why they're not what you call them because it gives you something to work with cause you havent thought that far ahead. I would know because I used to use shaming language all the time with people I disagreed with because I hadn't thought that far ahead. I know whenever I open my mouth someone could disagree wit…
/r/seduction07/10/21 07:31 PM
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As I say to others, if you dont like it provide a better alternative. As long as what I do gets me what I want I'm gonna keep doing it until it doesnt. Also married men have alot less sex vs when they were dating.
/r/seduction07/10/21 06:54 PM
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If you want to mantain a healthy relationship you will have to learn when to turn it down. Build your empire in the public but privately chill and hang back
/r/seduction07/10/21 06:52 PM
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Not as much as hunters, they have to know deer or they die. A deer can get by just fine either way. I have to understand you as a man because I starve otherwise. I have alot more incentive than you to understand you because I want something you have: sex and it's not easy to get as a guy. You as a woman dont need to understand me as a man because dick and male attention is dirt cheap. Your problem is on the backend, mine is the frontend.
/r/seduction07/10/21 06:49 PM
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Precisely why you wouldnt know. Deer dont hunt deer, hunters do.
/r/seduction07/10/21 06:37 PM
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When I say obvious I mean very obvious like shes talking to me and interrogating me not the typical "I'm gonna look at him and walk away" or I'm gonna have my friend tell you. Metoo is no joke for us dudes.
/r/seduction07/10/21 06:35 PM
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The only way a power couple works is if one party is submissive behind the scenes. For example, one of the female executives I work under is very dominate at work but when when shes around her husband she hangs back and let's him lead. Bare in mind she LETS him lead voluntarily.
/r/seduction07/10/21 06:30 PM
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You dont hunt as women as I do so how would you know.
/r/seduction07/10/21 06:09 PM
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Keep in mind you may not want that guy. If you're a dominate woman, you will attract submissive men. I have never seen dominate women want a submissive man.
/r/seduction07/10/21 05:58 PM
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Your definition of confident and forward are generally seen as arrogant and bossy to dudes. A guy wants a partner not a competitor. I understand as a guy I'm suppose to prove to you that you can hang back but once I've proved that I need you to chill. In boxing theres a guy called a cut man that's in his corner. He basically patches him up, gives advice and generally is supportive. We basically want that in a woman.
/r/seduction07/10/21 04:53 PM
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I mean you kinda have to in certain fields. You just gotta know when to turn it down when you're not in competitive work mode. The guy you're dating is different from the guy you're working with.
/r/seduction07/10/21 04:39 PM
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Men do too but you gotta suck it up or you're starve. A woman with a damaged ego can take a break and eat up free attention from men she doesnt like to keep her going.
/r/seduction07/10/21 04:37 PM
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I've slept with mostly latina/black. I'm in a white girl phase currently though cause I didnt have enough self belief in myself to get them awhile back.
/r/seduction07/10/21 04:33 PM
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Frankly the issue with many of them is they seem to think is men find accomplished women as attractive as women find accomplished men. I'm just as likely to date the cashier girl at the grocery store as I am the lawyer. The status difference between the two is largely irrelevant.
/r/seduction07/10/21 04:30 PM
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East
/r/seduction07/10/21 03:34 PM
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Nope, I'm 5'8, my boy was 6'1. Also alot better looking than me. Only problem is while he looked the part, he didnt have the word game. Girls fall in love through their ears not their eyes like us. Dont worry so much about height, you cant fix that shit. If you're a short guy you better be a funny charming short guy. It's your word game that gets you across the finish line anyways. I learned most of my game from brothers cause they had to rely mostly on their word game. I used to peacock all the…
/r/seduction07/10/21 03:23 PM
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I work with confident women, most of them act like men with lady parts, super masculine. Neccessary for work but terrible for dating. Frankly all a woman needs to do is make it obvious they want us to approach and let us take it from there. I dont expect women to approach men like men approach women. Like I had a girl at my gym chat me up about how to do something and then linger around and asked me lots of questions. I knew right away "ah this your approach"
/r/seduction07/10/21 03:15 PM
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You realize the whole point of indirect approach is not showing intent at all yes? You cant shortcut this, gotta do the direct approaches to learn and build your foundation to later do the indirect approaches. Indirect approaching requires you to be able to read a room and observe a girl's body language which you cant learn until you've messed up cold approaching directly.
/r/seduction07/10/21 03:07 PM
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Is dating as a black guy easier? Easier and harder depending on where you are, what women you're trying to get. For example as a black guy there is a sterotype that you're all tall, big dick energy expert lovers. This has its benefits as some girls assume you're very experienced and a good lover. Can get you in really quick. But it also has the downside of girls assuming you wont stick around. Also if you dont fit the stereotypical black male archetype you will have some issues. The bar for blac…
/r/seduction07/10/21 02:57 PM
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Girls generally arent trained how to let a guy know they're interested and they're not accustomed to rejection on a daily basis. Not that complicated.
/r/seduction07/10/21 02:30 PM
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We’ve been in three dates, Its general practice for us to cut our losses after three dates. How a woman feels about her body is how a man feels about his time, its precious and not something to be given up freely. We kissed but haven’t had sex yet, not because I’m withholding it, I just felt he was kind of shy so I didn’t force it, I rather let things flow naturally Hes trying not to scare you off or you gave him mixed signals. If hes really young or out of the game awhile its very common to not…
/r/seduction30/08/21 03:37 PM
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Depends on which section you work in. I worked at target awhile back and got some numbers but I worked in the hygiene section which happened to be next to the cosmetics so all the women would pass through me. I never actively approached, typically some girl would ask for something, I'd help out, make off conversation, she'd be really into the conversation and linger and then I'd get her number. This had the added affect of female coworkers seeing this and being interested. Keep in mind this only…
/r/seduction27/08/21 02:25 PM
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It depends on what you're comfortable with. When I started nightgaming I had a cringy script and would just open every girl with "hey saw you over there and had to say hi so hi". Overtime when I got more comfortable I'd use whatever was there to start conversation like what she was wearing or her dancing, make fun of her for it and then take it from there. Ultimately it's more effective to use your surroundings to open a girl as it feels more natural and her guard is down but in order to get the…
/r/seduction27/08/21 01:58 PM
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You chill out, hang back and let her marinate. Also grit your teeth and resist the urge to reach out. I hit her up later that day, which I normally don't do, but it felt right after a date like this and also she basically made me promise I'll do that You shouldnt of promised anything. You should of let her marinate and wonder about you. This IMO is where you messed up. She's leaving town for two weeks on Monday and I'm thinking should I try to make plans again before she leaves No, let her leave…
/r/seduction27/08/21 01:46 PM
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Its certainly better than after college. Also it's only creepy if the approach was bad or the girl isnt into it. I always tell dudes it's a numbers game and you will likely only get a 3% return rate with cold approach but those are fine odds. Certainly better than people who arent trying.
/r/seduction25/08/21 03:22 PM
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Generally yes they cant. I have female friends but understand they're never going to be a dating prospect and accept that because they've been an actual friend and betrayed the sisterhood for me.
/r/seduction04/08/21 04:07 PM
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Far too high risk. Unless she does the whole "ask me a dumb question" I'm not going near a woman at a gym. Far too many landmines
/r/seduction19/07/21 08:19 PM
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What are some ways I can make guys interested in me either romantically or just platonically? Just be attractive and approachable. If you really want to take it in your own hands you may need to actually approach dudes yourself. All we really care about upfront is how attractive you are. We only think about all your other stuff after we've slept with you.
/r/seduction08/07/21 01:12 PM
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Be consistently inconsistent. Ideal situation is shes confused and unsure if you like her or not. The "emotional roller coaster" There was a girl at work that I was kinda into and somedays I'd stare at her and we'd play the eye fucking game and another day I'd be completely cold and distant. It confused her greatly. Eventually she started to throw out IOIs and all I needed to do was set up the date and rest was history.
/r/seduction08/07/21 03:57 AM
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My question is, at what point should I directly address the flakiness and point out how it’s been hard to schedule anything with her, and see if she wants to actually move this forward? I only address it if she reaches out to reschedule. I generally make her pay for some drinks and leave it at that. Main thing is you cant let it bother you even if it does. I'm a firm believer every dude should have a rotation so if a girl flakes you have another one ready to go instead of chasing after them. Wha…
/r/seduction08/07/21 03:51 AM
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Both. To get good at this game ultimately you need infield experience to form your frame of references. Work on yourself is your long term goal, approaching is immediate. I know too many guys that get shredded and fit but dont work on any verbal muscles and girls look at them disappointed after he opens his mouth.
/r/seduction08/07/21 03:40 AM
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You have to take part in your own rescue. You dont want to keep living like that? stop crying about it and do something. Understand that nobody's coming to save you unless you get off your ass, ask around and start to learn. The world will pass you by all the same, sink or swim.
/r/seduction08/07/21 03:37 AM
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Hes a well spoken/dressed Patrice O'neal. Not his target audience but I enjoy watching him as he shows guys how to deal with combative women without breaking frame. If you want a less combative/more chill Kevin you get that whenever hes collaborating with other content creators because they're usually addressing his ideas vs his delivery/character. I alway tell people if you dislike an idea you dont kill the idea by attacking the messanger (doing that martyrs him), you kill it with a better idea…
/r/seduction13/05/21 04:24 PM
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Honestly if a girl likes you enough it wont matter what you talk about. Many women are attracted to the vibe you project when you talk about it not so much the topic itself. I once rambled about Dungeon mastering to a random girl in Atlanta and got laid purely because she liked how passionate I was about the topic. She didnt know anything about what I was talking about but she liked my energy/vibe.
/r/seduction13/05/21 04:04 PM
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Let the girl take the relationship at her own pace so yes let her text first after your initial date. It generally takes a girl longer to like you and she needs to ponder on it. You texting her just interrupts her thought process. Much like a cat, when you try to pet it its gonna flee. Hang back and the cat will come to you when it feels like it.
/r/seduction13/05/21 03:55 PM
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Me? Im more of a "wait till marriage" type That's ok, theres other women who give it up without that.
/r/seduction11/05/21 03:58 AM
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When I say be honest I mean in the event you're dating multiple women. Whenever I was dating a couple of women I didnt hide them from each other.
/r/seduction10/05/21 08:44 PM
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You should never put all your eggs in one basket. Until you're exclusive you should explore other options. It'll also speed things up but more importantly keeps your mind off it. Just be honest and dont hide them from each other
/r/seduction10/05/21 08:33 PM
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Just hang and have fun until shes ready. Gotta be her idea
/r/seduction10/05/21 08:26 PM
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Again if you want something you'll make time to learn how go get it. Hunger is a hell of a motivator
/r/seduction10/05/21 08:11 PM
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1 month is still within the honeymoon period. Just chill and let her take it at her own pace. Shes gonna want various opinions before figuring out if she wants to be steady with you and if you push you will disrupt that train of thought.
/r/seduction10/05/21 07:14 PM
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In the beginning I did do it for women. I just wanted a quicker way to sleep with women. Over time though I didnt want it to feel like a job so just related those lessons to my everyday. You dont need to be a 1% you just need the attitude of that guy and believ in it
/r/seduction10/05/21 05:31 PM
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Pre selection is basically your rep. Classic example is if a girl sees you around a bunch of other girls she thinks you must have something goin on. i know most men dont have the nuts to cold approach a bad bitch Indeed but I treat the bad bitch like shes an ugly bitch and believe it cause I'm better than her. I had to work to be me, she just won the lottery
/r/seduction10/05/21 05:18 PM
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So id rather not be at a place i dont enjoy This^ I felt like it was a job to cold approach women and waste an hour+ going past their shit test to get 15 minutes of fuck time. Hated it but I thought it was the only way to get ass so sucked it up until I found preselection/social proof. I'm just in a much better mood when I'm somewhere I already wanted to be and there happens to be a woman there. that masculine idgaf energy is something i always had but i still get rejected alot lol at times it s…
/r/seduction10/05/21 04:57 PM
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You let the girl bring up the exclusivity because it generally takes her longer to like you and in the long run avoids the "I felt rushed by you" excuse. You may already want to be exclusive but it's way better in the long run if exclusivity is her idea.
/r/seduction10/05/21 04:46 PM
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I don't have time to study "cheat codes" or master psychology. You will make time when you're starving enough.
/r/seduction10/05/21 04:28 PM
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And I believe only like 1% of the population is considered famous so thats out the window for 99% of men Thing is you dont need to be famous, you just need the attitude of a famous person. This is basically where all my shit comes from. I used to work at the club I'd night game in and I couldnt understand how the dudes in the VIP could literally toss women out. Like I'd of been happy to smash the girls they didnt want. Over time I'd watch them and even hang out with some of them and realized it …
/r/seduction10/05/21 04:24 PM
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It's purely time management on my end. When I started I'd approach everything that looked nice. But over time I disliked the time ratio to lay and needed to figure out a better way. So I hung around the dudes in abundance and basically they showed me what's up and rest is history. Back in old days I'd talk a girl to death for 2 hours to convince her to sleep with me, now not so much, if she's not high interest I dont want to invest the time. Women are plentiful and your competition doesnt know s…
/r/seduction10/05/21 04:04 PM
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Choosing signals is the woman's way of approach. It's a massive improvement over having to audition for her. Thing is you have of already done the cold approaches to understand "ah is her way of shooting her shot". Girls rarely do what we do and if they do they're usually masculine as hell.
/r/seduction10/05/21 03:21 PM
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Doesnt bug me at all. Ass is ass, I just treat her accordingly.
/r/seduction10/05/21 03:19 PM
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You do realize girls dont approach us in the same way we do them yes? When I used to have a personal trainer who basically fit your profile girls would approach him all the time. These would range from they would ask him for advice they would stare at him until he caught them they'd hover around him No girls are not going to walk up to you and ask you out. They dont do that, they make it easy for you to talk to them by serving themself up to you.
/r/seduction10/05/21 03:15 PM
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If you dont have shit yes. Develop your preselection and social proof though and they do. All men should be aiming towards that. Work smarter not harder
/r/seduction10/05/21 02:59 PM
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The book The Game keeps coming up in all the stuff I've read and the author Neil Strauss. Was he basically this average guy who ended up getting a lot of girls through 'game'... did he popularize the whole concept. That book and the author seem like big deals. Is this correct...What do you think of the book and the author. I googled his pic and didn't find him terrible looking or anything. Neil managed to simplify pick up for the masses. For anyone starting out with no idea of where to begin his…
/r/seduction09/05/21 07:03 PM
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You can whine all you want, wont change anything.
/r/seduction02/05/21 03:45 PM
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I can play those cards, but what of the odds? Lower than most but if you want to play you gotta get over it. Cant change those cards. Complaining about it wont do anything. It did not feel particularly good to read that Nobody owes us understanding. You're gonna have to stomach it and move forward. If you cannot you stand aside, again the world will move on regardless of your choice. They decided to pile it on because less-fortunate men deserve to feel more excluded I guess Nah that guy was whin…
/r/seduction01/05/21 03:36 PM
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All you can do is play with the cards you've been dealt. If you dont want to learn the world will pass you by all the same. Sink or swim.
/r/seduction28/04/21 06:33 AM
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just imagine you were getting 12 a day but they were all from girls who were 300 pounds or okay or even hot looking girls but ones who only wanted to cuddle and never have sex lol. Hell many average guys dont even get that lol. Those 300 pounders are chasing the same dudes the 110 pounders are.
/r/seduction28/04/21 03:55 AM
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I answer bluntly if I'm asked. Most women learn very quickly I dont sugarcoat and reframe from asking me anything. Most women in my experience rarely ask you a direct question anyways. It's usually vague and leaves out the chance to be rejected. For example if a girl would like to hang out with you on saturday she'll say "what are you doing saturday?" Instead of saying "I want to hang out saturday with you is that good with you?" Because the later leaves room for you to reject hanging out with h…
/r/seduction28/04/21 03:48 AM
1

Always better to be insensitive over too sensitive. With the former it's at least under your control. The latter is completely at the mercy of another. Balance is ideal but few know how to strike it
/r/seduction28/04/21 02:36 AM
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We're all animals, men and women. You're gonna have problems if words bug you this much kid.
/r/seduction27/04/21 08:19 PM
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Both of us hunt, I'm just honest and call it what it is, hunting. If a woman gets what she wants from a man she had a successful hunt and more power to her. But if I have a successful hunt that's a problem somehow?
/r/seduction27/04/21 05:56 PM
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Same place as pre covid, coffee shops, grocery stores, yoga class, restaurants.
/r/seduction27/04/21 04:54 PM
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I'm in the southern USA. Theres no heavy COVID restrictions.
/r/seduction27/04/21 04:48 PM
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If you're smart you arent using apps. Always better to hunt in the field.
/r/seduction27/04/21 04:42 PM
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^ this Guys got no excuse when the majority of dudes are goofy
/r/seduction27/04/21 03:47 PM
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Sexual market value Basically how datable you are to the opposite sex. Can range from things like social status net worth your looks basic social skills etc etc
/r/seduction21/04/21 01:13 PM
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Cold approach is sufficient but you have to have realistic expectations It is sufficient but not efficient. A useful tool but not the only one at your disposal.
/r/seduction21/04/21 01:10 PM
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Impossible in the short term yes. But long term it should be your end goal to develop your social proof and preselection. Bare in mind when women come to you its super lowkey and easy to miss. They dont do what we do. It ranges from asking you an obvious question to make small talk overly complimenting you out of no where lingering/hovering around you eye fucking you If you had been properly cold approaching up to that point you know exactly how to take it from there and have already gotten over…
/r/seduction21/04/21 01:07 PM
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Women do come to you if your social proof and preselection is on point. This is the end goal to work towards. It's not going to work that way if youre just starting out obviously. It took me time to build my social proof and get out of that scarcity. As to where I'm at, Charlotte NC.
/r/seduction21/04/21 12:52 PM
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You go about your day and let women come to you. But you had to of learned cold approach to be to take advantage of when the girl throws you IOIs.
/r/seduction21/04/21 12:42 PM
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1) date a guy and go steady with him 2) offer him a threesome 3) now ask for a train Or.... 1) find a MM couple 2) introduce the idea of yourself added to the mix to spice up their sex life You dont need to do much to get a guy to have sex with you but very few men will be open to having a train. Let alone two bisexual men.
/r/seduction21/04/21 05:44 AM
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If I approached 10 women, 3 would give me their contact. 2 would flake/not answer and 1 actually show up for the date. Bare in mind cold approach isnt going to get you that many results. That's not really the point of it. It's a warm up exercise and useful for getting rid of approach anxiety that's key. Its fundamental to getting good at this game but go in with the correct mindset and expectation.
/r/seduction21/04/21 05:37 AM
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I'm still baffled by why not texting every day works Of course it does, it's not your problem. Its guys' problem and we have to sort it out. Theres no shortage of guys that would tell you "yeah done that doesnt work". We dont value things that are easy and available. Girls whether they admit it or not like a guy they have to earn their attention. Much like me as a guy wont value you if you sleep with me on the first date, you as a girl wont value me if I'm always available to you. I'm immensely …
/r/seduction21/04/21 03:23 AM
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I dont mean I want someone texting me all day every day but I do expect a text or two throughout the day. You want that but most guys will tell you it doesnt end well. I've been the guy that texted once or twice a day, didnt end well and theres no shortage of guys that ask what happened. It shows you're thinking of me as a person and not just a literal fuck hole. There are other ways besides a text. I'm genuinely engaging in this discussion bc apparently I'm not "the norm" You are the norm. Most…
/r/seduction20/04/21 08:26 PM
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It sounds like this guy is looking to make this chick a FWB. Dunno what OP is looking for, not what he asked. I just answered his questions. Hes just overly excited and needs to chill out. I dont understand how anyone gets that by "dont talk to her every day". It comes off as clingy. Its charming in the early phases but gets old quickly. Familiarity breeds contempt. I personally have a high sex drive and wanna fuck every day. You might but I dont assume every woman is like that. Generally mosy w…
/r/seduction20/04/21 07:15 PM
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You're not asking a genuine question. You're nick picking and not adding anything to the conversation. My alternative is for you to pull your dick out of your personality That's not tangible advice that's you venting at me cause you didnt like what I said. Instead of addressing the point you throw an insult. I'm asking a genuine fucking question here. Why the fuck would that basic shit work on 10 other women? Because it produces results, not that complicated. I wouldnt do what I suggested to the…
/r/seduction20/04/21 06:56 PM
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Of course I don't. I'm not a lesbian. Precisely Maybe it wouldnt work on you but theres 10 other women it would. The advice isnt for you. If you have a issue offer an alternative instead of nick picking.
/r/seduction20/04/21 06:43 PM
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You dont hunt as many women as I do.
/r/seduction20/04/21 06:38 PM
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Always go for face to face. Texting misses that physical element and it gives the other person too much time to respond. In person theres no time to think of a response, you can gauge their reaction in real time.
/r/seduction20/04/21 04:59 PM
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Keep it simple I say
/r/seduction20/04/21 04:51 PM
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Is it necessary to chat every day with your partner? No, actually the less the better. Gives the other person something to wonder about. Distance is a key ingredient to attraction as it creates mystery Does the girl lose interest when you don't chat with her for days? No, they will complain but that's fine. DO NOT pretend to be busy to not talk to her though. You should legit have your own things going on that you dont actually have time to always talk Is it better to write less than to always w…
/r/seduction20/04/21 04:48 PM
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When I say talk cheaply I mean dont spend $ attempting to talk with women. You can talk to them for free during class time.
/r/seduction15/04/21 03:42 PM
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feel like, for once, I won the mind games by not pursuing and I’m addicted to this feeling, I have to do it more. It's very addicting mainly because you dont feel like a slave to emotions.
/r/seduction15/04/21 03:39 PM
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Short term you fake it, when I started I just cosplayed a very exaggerated version of myself to figure how how its suppose to look like and more importantly how others respond to it. Long term, you naturally develop it. Over time as I started to get more success with women I didnt need to fake it anymore as I started to get more comfortable just being me. It's a slow gradual process that's reinforced by each success. Not something you can rush.
/r/seduction15/04/21 03:36 PM
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So my question is what do I do in this situation, do I just wait til uni to start getting into real relationships or is there any way to get to these girls, preferably not in huge groups and preferably not with a shit ton of alcohol. Presently just observe and get accustomed to just talking with women cheaply. At your age you're basically in deep shit. This is the time to just experiment and throw shit at the wall to see what sticks. Also you seem to be in a small pond so not many opportunities …
/r/seduction15/04/21 03:28 PM
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How's someone laid-back(or more like never learned motivation) create that life-long drive/passion that cements girls in? You literally do something you geniunely like. Girls dont really care what that is, they like the vibe you project doing it. I didnt understand this for a while until I saw one of my friends geek out over his passion for comics with a girl. She had no idea what he was talking about but she liked his attitude and the good vibes he was projecting talking about it. As you stated…
/r/seduction09/04/21 03:21 PM
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This^ Women feel your vibe and act accordingly.
/r/seduction09/04/21 03:15 PM
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When you're in abundance your vibe is different and people around you notice and treat you accordingly. As for ego damage, women arent socialized to deal with rejection so handle it poorly. As for how powerful it is. Very but you wont notice it unless you look closely. Like when I started to have my rotation I didnt notice girls were actually walking on eggshells around me to make a good impression. Back in goofy days girls were super comfy around me because I wasnt seen as sexual at all and jus…
/r/seduction31/03/21 03:46 PM
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I told her that if she didnt want to send me a simple message than I wasn't planning on either. That was petty. Nothing alpha there. Show dont tell. Most people arent "alpha" and that's fine. Play to your own strengths.
/r/seduction31/03/21 03:36 PM
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Yes. If shes lingering on your hand theres a some interest. A friendly cashier isnt much to go off of as that's their job but the hand lingering is indeed a hint
/r/seduction31/03/21 03:26 PM
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Best wishes
/r/seduction25/03/21 06:00 PM
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I’m just saying the word objectifying and dehumanizing is pretty gross. Its gross to you but honest. When I have disagreements with someone I dont police their tone, I try to understand the context. I get what you are sort of saying but the way it comes off is creepy af I understand it comes off as creepy but I have no desire to self edit my thoughts to make them more digestible to you. That's be lying, well intended lying is still lying. It sounds like maybe you have bad experiences and it’s ea…
/r/seduction25/03/21 05:45 PM
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No we aren’t No we are...in the beginning if that puts you at ease. but objectifying people is how some of the worst atrocities in history happen. I'm not saying put people in ovens. Im saying you should not treat anyone special until they're earned it. I can understand not being tangled in emotions or being too into someone because that’s the opposite side of extreme This is what I'm saying. It sounds extreme because I leave no grey area, it's very black and white. The reason is if you leave so…
/r/seduction25/03/21 05:02 PM
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We're all objects. We transcend it once we've earned it. We owe nobody anything in the beginning. Its foolish to not verify and just trust off the bat.
/r/seduction25/03/21 04:35 PM
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It doesnt doesnt cause I compartmentalize very well. I dont need "connection". I already wanna sleep with her upfront. The date is for her because I understand she needs "connection" to want to sleep with me and I will give her that because it's in my self interest. I sell her what shes buying. I dont need the date, I only go through with it cause I understand it's important for the girl.
/r/seduction23/03/21 10:48 PM
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I really thought we had a connection That's your problem right there. You're too invested. I never look for a connection. I just look at her as an object in the beginning. It's easier to get over her if it doesnt work out because I had no expectations anyways. Overtime I may see her as more than an object but its key in the beginning for me to view her as expendable until later. Also as you talk to more women you do realize theres alot more single women out there. Most guys arent talking to them…
/r/seduction23/03/21 03:33 PM
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feel more apathetic, it's a strange sensation to care so little about something I used to believe was the ideal for a man, the "final boss" so to speak, when at the moment it's hardly a thought, just something that crossed my mind earlier. That's how you're suppose to feel. To stay in the video game theme, the feeling of apathy is you htting the levelcap. Because you've matured and realized women arent the goal and your personal goals are alot more important and actually give you something tangi…
/r/seduction14/03/21 05:39 PM
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at this stage women are not even factoring into my life right now. That is your answer right here. You're 29, about to be a home owner, your job is looking up. You're on the way to your prime. Having a girl right now for you would just slow you down. Mainly because you value one too much ala I've always had the dream of getting married and starting a family Thats a bad mentality to have presently for you ​ I admit certainly throughout this past 12 months I had limited opportunity to pursue relat…
/r/seduction14/03/21 05:11 PM
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I accept people are limited in their emotions and will feel attacked often, I accept it too but disregard it because I'm not going to be phoney to make them feel better. I understand they will be upset but I have the patience to go through the motions with them. Because I dont want to self edit myself. but I don’t mind some extra effort to make someone feel more comfortable, especially if that will get better results in the end That is lying though, well intended lying but lying nevertheless. I …
/r/seduction08/03/21 04:19 PM
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I didnt take it personal because I understand the context of our conversation. People that take your conversations personally are likely over emotional. Not autistic, just very logical. I wasn't apologizing, just pointing it out, even though it was clearly unnecessary. Its a bad habit. Dont feel like you need to walk on eggshells. Just say what you want to say always.
/r/seduction08/03/21 04:02 PM
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. I also tend to overinvest and get hurt and I understand and also have had the reaction to that to not invest anymore. Yeah I had this problem too until I didnt. I only achieved balance after I went way over the line and saw what the abyss looked like and how far I could go. Then I just rolled it back to where I was comfortable. IMO you cant really have balance if you've never seen the abyss. The abyss gives you perspective and shows your limits. But I truly believe a balance to be the best alm…
/r/seduction08/03/21 03:16 PM
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but it also means you would have no investment I have investment in her, there's simply an understanding on my end how far it It means you are with someone that you don't care about, someone that is easily replaceable, I compartmentalize very well. I care about my GF but I can separate that emotion when needed because I have a frame of references that remind me what happens if you're too invested. I understand a show a weakness on my part makes her feel unsafe. She is more cooperative if I put a…
/r/seduction08/03/21 02:43 PM
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Its liberating actually. If you're afraid of loss you will do things you dont want to do to mantain it. In the long term you will unhappy. My own happiness is paramount.
/r/seduction08/03/21 02:19 PM
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What had me confused was how he went from going ‘full asshole’ (in one of his relationships) to the ‘gentleman vibe’ he can also exhibit When you calibrate you also exhibit different parts of your personality. Like if a girl is cooperative with me I can be a gentleman but if shes not I can go full pimp and start treating her like a hoe. You calibrate based off the girl. Like I mentioned earlier, assholes typically don’t seem have the willpower or behavioural control to be able to re-align their …
/r/seduction26/02/21 04:55 AM
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It must be emotionally exhausting for someone to be able to calibrate their personality to that extent around different people and in different situations. In the beginning yes because you're basically faking it to figure it out first. But over time it becomes natural to you because by then you've of developed a frame of reference from all the failures. I mean, the guy never seems caught off guard lol. Bare in mind though that Julien partially gets a little theatrical for the camera. I always ha…
/r/seduction26/02/21 03:52 AM
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I stress no texting except logistics with the assumption the guy wont actually do it fully. I've lost count of how many guys fight with themselves and end up texting the girl anyways but remember what I said and keep it inconsistent enough they dont overdo it. I find if I make exceptions dudes just find as many excuses to over text vs if I'm very inflexible they at least text erratically which is preferable to ovetexting.
/r/seduction25/02/21 04:41 AM
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Wont be the first nor the last but the rejections are needed to thicken your skin. Dust yourself, figure out what you could of improved upon and get back in there.
/r/seduction25/02/21 04:33 AM
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Flirty: has sexual undertones, lots of sexual tension Example: girl wears striped shirt, you look her up and down and jokingly comment on how the stripes raise her a cup level Friendly: non sexual undertones Example: what you're doing
/r/seduction25/02/21 04:31 AM
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Do bare in mind the RSD instructors each had their own vibe. It's not so much that Julien could summon a new vibe when around a women but more so he calibrated his existing one. He'd tone some things down or tone things up to the point of exaggeration in the moment. As to how to cultivate that skill you develop a frame of reference. To do that you field test, fail, dust yourself off and learn what not to do. Overtime your reaction time becomes better and your calibration skills improve. That way…
/r/seduction25/02/21 04:27 AM
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What you should do is just mantain eye contact and dont look away until you've both passed each other or the other person looks away. Really that's it when it comes to eye contact in a nutshell. You can throw extra body language but you need to just get used to looking people in the eye. Best way to practice is just make eye contact with everyone with no intention. Dont just make eye contact with women you're attracted to, get accustomed to doing it with everyone.
/r/seduction25/02/21 04:09 AM
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Honestly it wont be last and thats ok. Our failures help us develop a frame of reference and thats key to getting good at this game. Best believe you won't repeat what you did with the next girl because now you have a frame of reference and you'll remember the frustration you felt as you wrote your post.
/r/seduction23/02/21 04:56 AM
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I knew he was going to fail because he was way too thristy and wouldnt shut up about her. Basically followed her around like a fanboy. Even if he did succeed I wasnt so invested and could of cared less. I liked her but not enough to compete for her, too much pride to do that.
/r/seduction10/02/21 05:01 AM
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Meh its friendly comp as long as you arent slandering him to her (it wouldnt work anyways) Been in this scenario and simply hung back, let my friend hit a brick wall, kept my conversations with her brief and acted like I could care less about her. I'd ocasionally help my boy out by peeling her friend off her. She was more interested in getting my attention because I was trying to get her unlike my friend and her friend wouldnt stop talking about me. After he asked her out and got rejected I came…
/r/seduction10/02/21 04:46 AM
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Thing is most guys dont start off as confident decision makers. I certainly didnt and had to cosplay one first to figure it out before it became natural.
/r/seduction10/02/21 04:33 AM
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It can be done for sure. Just understand theres some "on the job" training and dont stress over lost opportunities. There will lots of lost opportunities because you have no frame of reference. Just allow yourself a wide birth.
/r/seduction09/02/21 06:00 PM
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Basically the more you deal with the women you naturally run into all types of them and overtime develop a frame of reference of how they are, how to deal with them and what they mean for you. It's a frustrating/exhausting process but essential.
/r/seduction09/02/21 05:10 PM
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Current times are crappy if your location is still under lockdown conditions. The problem with having no game and then doing the self development is you wont have the frame of reference to figure out which girl is which. So you just have to figure it out on the spot and it will slow you down. It can be done, just understand the pros/cons and plan accordingly
/r/seduction09/02/21 04:23 PM
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The majority of the dudes on this subreddit are new guys, not that complicated. Those of us who graduated are either posting PSAs, quietly answering particular questions or just have other shit to it. Like everything you have to shovel through alot of shit to get to the gems.
/r/seduction09/02/21 04:03 PM
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You're actually doing it correctly. While you're doing the self development you will feel much better and more confident and it passively attracts people to you. Keep in mind though that while it attracts people to you, if you didn't work on your game you cant take advantage. I did a little self development, ran around cold approaching and just learned game until I reached a mental block and then started focusing more on self development. While I did that I had plenty of opportunities present th…
/r/seduction09/02/21 03:56 PM
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Just reply "nah" and leave it at that. If she tries to initiate more conversation just stop her and tell her she can talk to you in person. Then just keep doing no contact.
/r/seduction27/01/21 03:23 PM
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Your average guy is either scared to death of approaching or completely ignorant of your approach. A smile isnt much to go off of for the average dude. The cashier girl smiles at us, the attendant at the department store but that's just her job, doesnt mean she likes us. Thus most guys see a girl smile and arent sure. Some will go investigate but most wont. We cant read your mind. Next time OP try to start a conversation. Anything really, if we like you we wont care what comes out of your mouth.…
/r/seduction24/01/21 06:26 PM
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When you approach groups of girls or girls with friends you approach the entire group, talk to everybody and leave the girl you want out of the conversation for a little bit before picking her out. You basically have win over the friends before you pick her. Dont wait for the perfect opportunity, make it yourself
/r/seduction24/01/21 03:20 PM
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You either have preselection or you dont. Part of what makes it so useful is you arent trying to attract women with it. You're just going about your day living your life. Women see it and want to be part of it. Also faking it takes too much effort vs actually becoming preselected
/r/seduction24/01/21 02:46 PM
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Didnt say women hate men, just said 97% of women react negatively to cold approach by men. If that makes you hate women, that's your problem.
/r/seduction23/01/21 07:28 PM
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I'm realistic, if you take it as negative that's your prerogative. Would you prefer I lie and sugar coat it instead? That wouldnt help you get what you want. Itd make you feel better but thats unhelpful.
/r/seduction23/01/21 07:24 PM
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Not really cause I compartmentalize and understand the parameters of each relationship.
/r/seduction23/01/21 07:22 PM
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I just cant stop feeling like I will be annoying dont matter how well dressed and confident I am. You will be annoying to most but that's not the correct attitude to have. It's not about her, it's about you and it's for you. How would they react? 97% wont like it and again so what, not about them. You just need that 3% return. what is the average reaction like? Its sigh "fuck again....yeah heard that before, get out of my face dude" but in a polite "yeah not interested" I always tell dudes cold …
/r/seduction23/01/21 07:11 PM
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I usually comment on stuff in their cart or stuff they're looking at. If shes just smiling though and looking, I'll just walk by, play the staring game and see if she comes along. Did that a few weeks ago, girl stared and smiled, I walked slowly past. She followed a little later, lingered to let me know "hey come talk to me" and we talked. Theres no standard method, just use what's available in your surroundings.
/r/seduction23/01/21 07:03 PM
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Err no. Ben is a great debater but that's not how you get women. Also Ben did the traditional square guy thing to get his wife. I blurted out "nice ass, bitch" and she slapped me. It always happens I've also said this and not been slapped because I said it with conviction and started with it. Your problem is you had no conviction. She felt it, tested you, you failed and she saw the opening. You even said you panicked. You're 20 though, plenty of time to learn and this is the time to throw shit a…
/r/seduction23/01/21 06:53 PM
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Variety is indeed the spice of life. Maintaining a rotation is indeed quite the experience to those uninitiated. The rake certainly wouldnt work online as it requires presence and vibe.
/r/seduction20/01/21 02:40 AM
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I do do what makes me happy now. However had to drop darts at the wall to get there and do what I thought would make me happy along the way. Havent run out of creativity, the resentment came in the beginning cause I hadn't figured out a less time consuming way to deal with women at that time. As for threesomes yes, checked it off the list already. Swinging as well. Sex parties, I worked as club promoter, gave me access to those.
/r/seduction19/01/21 03:04 PM
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Problem with the rake archetype is it was fine during the 18th-19th century it was birthed but is ill suited to modern day. In the social media age "throwing yourself" at women is what everyone else does. The rake was effective during it's time because it wasn't fashionable to express desire so openly. Modern day your average girl has so many guys openly expressing their desires it isnt special. The book is still useful to learn basic female archetypes but that's about it.
/r/seduction19/01/21 05:32 AM
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"Girls won't make you happy". To this day I consider this a ridiculous idea. Have post nut clarity enough and that more of less is the feeling. The problem is few guys ever reach such an abundance to feel it. When you reach that point you feel exhausted. When I was at peak pimpness I basically came to the conclusion "holy shit I did all that for some ass, I could of been doing something else". Girls make you happy in the beginning sure but the novelty runs out as the numbers rise. You start to r…
/r/seduction19/01/21 05:10 AM
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Standard procedure for this scenario is as follows you invite her over to you. You DONT go to her because it is she who broke it off. She is suppose to try to win you over. during the meetup, you simply pick up where you left off like it was not a big deal. You don't bring up past stuff, be magnanimous. invite her over again, repeat above step. if she complies you may now invest and start to make an effort to meet halfway instead of having her come to you. It is key you be magnanimous. Guys have…
/r/seduction19/01/21 04:25 AM
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According to what most say (and especially in dating profiles) they actively are "serious" and only want "serious guys" and very often say things like, "casual is degrading, I'm done with it, don't contact me if you're not seeking a relationship." And you actually take it at face value? Girls say many things but will do the opposite if you like you enough. Also women pnline dating that say "I'm only looking for serious" is usually a woman who's running/run out of time and is looking for a provid…
/r/seduction04/01/21 03:24 PM
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Not gonna argue with douche bags Yet you took the time to reply and let me live in your head rent free on new years day of all things. If you didnt want to argue with douchbags you'd of stopped replying and gone on about your day. Yet our disagreement bothered you that much you didnt want to let it go. I'm a douchbag, completely shameless and like confrontation so it's perfectfully normal for me. You're suppose to be better than me supposedly. Happy new years too. Gonna keep doing what I'm doing…
/r/seduction01/01/21 07:48 AM
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I didn’t have anything to do with what? I was very much involved. I was the one he was staring at. You werent involved because you were minding your business until he decided to stare. You werent asking to be stared at yes? Thus you werent involved. I am justified in acting impolite to those who act rude to me. The thing is you dont need to preface or justify anything cause you didnt do anything wrong. That's the point I'm making. It's like if a guy grabbed your butt and you slapped him, you don…
/r/seduction31/12/20 10:59 PM
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But he wouldn’t stop looking at me so I can be impolite right back You don't need to justify it. You werent interested and treated it as such. That was his fault, you didnt have anything to do with it. I think there’s a difference between good eye contact and staring. One’s impolite. The other can be quite nice if mutual. Yes but girls are generally bad at explaining to guys the difference. Thus guys like me have to translate your womanese to them. A guy will read your post and have no idea what…
/r/seduction31/12/20 05:30 AM
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If you stared him down you obviously werent interested in the first place or he messed up somewhere. Fair play to you though, he left himself open to it. If you felt some attraction youd of glanced quickly.
/r/seduction31/12/20 05:10 AM
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My default is seductive even if I have no intention of ever sleeping with them. It's a bad habit to self edit yourself around different women. I treat them all the same regardless of attractiveness.
/r/seduction31/12/20 04:19 AM
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Yes because culturally we dont place much prestige on that work. But fuck that, make that $
/r/askTRP31/12/20 04:11 AM
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Any acknowledgement will do. I prefer to wink. Smile, smirk, whatever you prefer
/r/seduction31/12/20 04:08 AM
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They only find it creepy if you give off the vibe that you're creepy. For example: You look at the girl, awkwardly smile and turn away the moment she catches you= creepy You look at her, lock eyes until she turns away and go about your day = not creepy
/r/seduction31/12/20 03:50 AM
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I have a theory that most of the sane good women are taken basically in college or high school and the ones who are still single around that age group are either single mothers, or absolutely batshit insane or both. Most sane decent women are grabbed up early, particularly in college. The ones leftover can be a mix of those are are broken, focused on their career, took a break, etc etc. Either way a minefield for men who are looking to date. I still think really trying to unfuck my life is a goo…
/r/seduction30/12/20 06:06 PM
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Not that anyone enjoys rejection, I'm saying it's another level of pain and self-loathing that goes on when you have social challenges. You might have to be one, to know one. You're not exempt simply because of your situation. You simply choose to use it as an excuse to not do anything meaningful. But it could be harder to justify "going through it" for me, Nobody can convince you except you.
/r/seduction29/12/20 07:20 AM
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Are you suggesting there that a guy needs to portray himself as "looking for a serious relationship" even if he does not want that? Everyone lies upfront. We all wish to make a good first impression. It's not meant to be malicious. Never met someone who didnt tell some white lies to look better in my eyes and dont fault them for it. If that is the case, have you tried the more often suggested "be honest about what you're really looking for"? I'm honest and transparent now only because I understa…
/r/seduction29/12/20 07:12 AM
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Online dating is a meat market. Deception is common practice there and majority dont have the creds to compete there. Get in where you fit in. Dont play the online dating game if you dislike how that game is played. It will not change. As for not seeking traditional relationships, if the other person likes you enough they will attempt to make it work regardless of what they personally want. However to even get to that point one would need to convince them. Thus the point of this subreddit. For o…
/r/seduction28/12/20 08:29 PM
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Some anecdotes from your earlier days, where you felt humiliated? How did you get past it man. Went through a couple, rejected, had my 2 GFs cheat on me, take your pick. As to how I got past it, resentment+starvation. Prior to that I was making excuses like you were. At a point I hit a breakpoint and told myself no more, I'm sick of this Im going to figure this shit out. I had been burned enough to force me into action. Not that complicated.
/r/seduction28/12/20 08:11 PM
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humiliation, for me, seems worse than the starvation You're obviously made that calculation. If so you need to accept that a life without a relationship and find something to replace it. And given I don't even want a traditional relationship, it makes me feel dishonest also--it's not something a Square can really carry through, in my opinion. Most of us were squares. We certainly werent born naturals or else this subreddit wouldnt be needed. A square can carry through. YOU just dont want to. And…
/r/seduction27/12/20 08:35 PM
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I always tell women if you dislike the advice here so much offer an alternative. This subreddit's continued existence is based purely on its legitimacy and its results. Most women simply come here, dislike the advice, complain about semantics but have no workable alternative that works. Maybe it wouldnt work on you OP but theres 10 other women it would work on.
/r/seduction21/12/20 07:46 PM
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I'm sorry but why would you turn away any girl who approached you? Because I didnt find them attractive obviously That is unless you're some great looking guy or big status, and can afford to turn some away. My method has always been preselection. To get though I had to go through the conventional methods to take advantage of preselection. We've talked before but I'm still not convinced there's anything a late 30s autistic guy, without life skills or much in the way of prospects, let alone other…
/r/seduction21/12/20 05:51 PM
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Only in Australia do woman buy you drinks to not owe you. This is what I mean.
/r/seduction08/12/20 05:50 AM
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Australia is a werid place, the girls there really loath feeling like they owe you anything to the point it feels like a competition.
/r/seduction08/12/20 04:08 AM
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The novelty is simply gone. I basically have the same attitude as a 9 that is constantly pestered by guys. Not to say I brush off the women that approach me ( I know what that's like) but there is an internal groan as I judge their approach and usually come to the conclusion "only a girl could get away with that". Usually just thank them and I'm clear I'm not interested. I dont want to discourage them from approaching the next guy but it's a struggle to resist stopping her and saying "no no no y…
/r/seduction08/12/20 04:04 AM
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Not necessarily for good reasons. Most of them approached really goofy or it was over the top
/r/seduction07/12/20 07:20 PM
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Theres actually alot of parallels but youd need to actually be funny/know enough about comedy to utilize it. The average guy who's not funny and doesnt have a deep understanding of comedians will be largely screwed. When I was learning game I'd religiously listen to Patrice O'Neil's comedy and his comments as there were many gems there.
/r/seduction07/12/20 05:55 AM
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Wouldnt consider them golden apples but I generally remember them the most.
/r/seduction07/12/20 05:43 AM
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Honestly I didnt have that casual "if it happens it happens" attitude towards sex until I had my fill and sex wasnt special anymore. Until then I was faking it. When I finally had enough sex I almost came out of a coma and realized "oh shit, there's more important stuff besides getting ass" I want my life to be together for me, and I don’t know how to do that quickly So how do I do that? You either suck it up and force yourself to focus on your own shit, jerk off anytime you think about sex get …
/r/seduction04/12/20 02:06 PM
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I feel like a lot of the advice here is from people who have likely been successful their whole lives You honestly think they started like that? In order to be successful you have to have fail constantly and get up. I'm a late bloomer. Up until I hit 28 I was bumbling around not knowing shit and letting everybody walk over me to be polite. Wasnt until I had a deja vu moment that I finally snapped and said "fuck this what are those motherfuckers doing that I'm not?" Is there any advice you can sh…
/r/seduction04/12/20 01:57 PM
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It's almost like most men come at you sexually immediately. Its better than pretending to be your friend. Coming at you sexually is more honest. If I'm talking to a woman it's either because I'm attracted to you I have to deal with you You're genuinely a friend, in this case I'm not attracted to you All the while the female, by default, has developed feelings for him. Women get hurt on the back end, men on the front end. It is what it is. Only difference is a broken man is a physical threat to t…
/r/seduction02/12/20 04:28 PM
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I'm beautiful and men still don't put in the work or expect only sex. We always expect sex, that's the prerequisite to us "putting in the work". How you feel about your body is how men feel about our time, it's very valuable to us. The problem is you cant give it up that quickly because we wont value you but likewise if you make us wait too long we resent it. I understand youd like to be more than your body but its very important for us guys. Its frankly the only thing that separates you from a …
/r/seduction02/12/20 04:39 AM
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Clearly cold approach isnt for you if you're worried about coming off as misogynistic. If online is what you want to do, do it. Just understand its limitations. We're be here if you wish to branch out.
/r/seduction25/11/20 02:00 PM
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Best way to become PUA is to get in the field and test. Like any skill you cant just read all day and know how to do something.
/r/seduction25/11/20 01:58 PM
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Oh I agree not for marriage specifically. But basic mantainence I find transfers over fine. It's just the OP's problem is a common one I hear it can be answered here I feel.
/r/seduction24/11/20 08:41 PM
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It’s easier to move on for me if she’s blocked Yeah I get that, Im just saying at some point you need to not need to not require that crutch. Subconsciously I’m still hoping things will change Again that's something you need to sort out. You should always have a take it or leave it attitude. Remember a woman’s best and most proven move is to sell hopes and dreams. I don’t give her the ability to do that. I dont hope so I can never be disappointed. Cant be if you weremt expecting anything.
/r/seduction24/11/20 08:40 PM
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if she’s bad as hell you’re gonna wanna text her! B Nah, I rather take the L. I'm from the Patrice O'Neil school. If she doeant want to play my game I take my ball and go home. I leave alot of ass on the table sure but when I get in I get in quickly. I dont have the patience to text back in forth. abundance in a sense of not even lowkey hoping that the girl comes back. I dont dont expect her to come back but again but I lowkey enjoy it when they do.
/r/seduction24/11/20 03:26 PM
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I just ask for numbers, I dont want to join their fanclub. I'm with AMS all the way lol. They do come back ocasionally.
/r/seduction24/11/20 03:19 PM
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It’s really so I don’t hit them up again, See that's a you problem though you need to solve. If I dont hear back it's just a shoulder shrug.
/r/seduction24/11/20 02:45 PM
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But really anything guys do can be classified as "just doing it to get chicks". Making money, having nice clothes, etc. etc. Why do all that if not yo get chicks? It's for me. Biologically sure it's for mates but screw that, it makes no sense anymore. I'm not giving away my rocks for an implied product. Also women got their own money now, buy your own stuff. Is it inauthentic to care about fashion? Probably on some level. To me it should be authentic always. In the early days fake it till you ma…
/r/seduction24/11/20 02:40 PM
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Thing with blocking is you basically let the other person know they affected you. It doesnt warrant the effort.
/r/seduction24/11/20 02:30 PM
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Nah I think mantience is a legit topic, we already teach dudes how to start and get a girl, we need to teach them how to keep them around too.
/r/seduction24/11/20 02:28 PM
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Ah the mantainece phase. Two options: Whenever you have sex, just eat her out and get her off. Then leave and be disinterested, go jack off. She'll wonder "wtf" and start to think about what's wrong. Because presently brother, you want it too much and she knows. You're getting pimped. Imply you're getting side pussy. My boy had the same issue as you, he got a weakened job at a club serving drinks. There were alot of girls there giving him attention and when his wife found she started to fuck him…
/r/seduction24/11/20 02:28 PM
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Lol bro just because you took a concept and took it to the extreme, doesn't mean it's not a good suggestion. I think it's a good suggestion for a dude that's just starting out not for guys that are immediate. As my story shows, some of us are a bit retarded and just go on autopilot. I mentioned 50 cent just to show that wearing accessories is common for men. Yes but the point I'm making is 50 is wearing that cause he wants to not for women. Hes better than his jewelry, he doesnt need the jewelry…
/r/seduction24/11/20 02:20 PM
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Infinite patience but only cause Im usually building a rotation of women so if any of them drop off/stall it's no big deal. For example I had one girl I went on 1 date with not talk to me for an entire year (she went back to her ex) and came back and I barely noticed cause I had a bunch of other women.
/r/seduction24/11/20 01:51 PM
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Yes but nothing like prior to pickup. Thing is that old puppy love disappears after you go down this path. You just know more than you did prior and you see some shit you cant unsee.
/r/seduction24/11/20 01:47 PM
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Yeah but 50 Cent isnt wearing that to attract attention, hes wearing it cause he wants to. His swagger is more than enough to attract women. Your average basic dude who's peacocking is purposely wearing stuff to get attention. IMO it's a bad habit to get into. I used to peacock alot in the early days (fur coats, chains) and it was a massive crutch and $ sink. Reason I stopped was I'd see pookie and ray ray show up with nothing and still get girls based just on swagger alone. Basically I was like…
/r/seduction24/11/20 01:18 PM
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It's far too obvious and requires most to buy those props
/r/seduction24/11/20 12:30 PM
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Girls are more desperate than ever to find a REAL MAN. Esp with the lockdown. Been collecting plenty of applications.
/r/seduction24/11/20 04:31 AM
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All purpose is is something you genuinely like to do and can make a living off of. Really that simple. If you like to play video games all day, figure out a way to monetize it. If you like to cook, open a food truck. You go through all your hobbies and stick to the one that makes you live within your means. That boring job you currently have, that's your foundation while you build towards what you actually want. Still need to pay for regular expenses afterall.
/r/askTRP23/11/20 04:28 PM
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I use a neg as my opener actually. As long as you say it confidently you get away with it. I'm from the Patrice O'Neil school of piss the girl off as much as you can and then de escalate.
/r/seduction23/11/20 01:09 PM
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Not upfront though. We dont know if a girl is cool and fun from just looking at her. After talking to her though and you realize you dig the same shows, shiiiitttttt now she can cash in that extra point
/r/seduction23/11/20 03:17 AM
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How can a woman stand out when there's a lot of really pretty women around? By doing something those other women wont, approach us. You dont need to ask him out directly, it can be something as simple as just asking questions. The alternative is you just sitting there waiting on us to get your hint. What should women do to make guys that every girl wants choose her? You only get a chance at that after we've chosen you. In the beginning all we care about is your looks. After that it's how support…
/r/seduction23/11/20 12:54 AM
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It's an arms race, love or hate it.
/r/seduction22/11/20 05:32 AM
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Preselection works best when you're not trying to use it as a technique. If you're purposely talking to other girls to get the attention of the girl you actually want thats not really preselection. What preselection would look like is if you were hanging out with your boys and some girls spoke with you a bit but you brushed them off to hang out with your boys. It looks natural and organic. Preselection works best when you're not thinking about it.
/r/seduction22/11/20 05:30 AM
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How to manage my rotation effectively when some of them wants me exclusively (but I still want to bang them at least few times and test different strategies etc. You either stall them or let them go. When I had my rotation going and a girl was inching for commitment I let her go and replaced her with another. You can only stall for so long. What to answer when they ask if I chat to other girls too? Be honest, actually paradoxically creates a burden of performance. I never hid any of the girls in…
/r/seduction22/11/20 05:21 AM
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The "game" has its use: to introduce new people into seduction. As a useful tool for day to day nah. The peacocking method in the book is ancient now. I still recommend guys read the book just to get an intro and I use the Australian student in the book's epilogue as a cautionary tale. That's about it though.
/r/seduction22/11/20 05:18 AM
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It usually is but it can be one sided recpriocally. There have been times where I've created sexual tension and the girl doesnt feel comfortable openly reciprocating cause she doesnt want to be judged but will later when no ones around. Frankly you dont really know until you actually do it and see what the response is.
/r/seduction22/11/20 05:04 AM
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If you're not attached to the idea of love, then it's not a real and meaningful relationship. It's actually more meaningful and real precisely because theres no attachment to the fantasy that is "love". If you're emotionally attached to something you will make terrible decisions on it because you value it so much. Also leaves you open to manipulations malicious and unconscious. Relationships need love in them in order for them to work out. Relationships need clear boundaries not love. Those boun…
/r/seduction22/11/20 04:32 AM
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Besides, once you actually "get" the person, you're so tired and burnt out from the chase that you just get bored and move on If she has nothing to offer besides her body then sure I move on. This doesnt bother me cause I generally have a rotation. If my GF left me today Id just shrug, and reopen my HR department and go through new candidates. I'm not attached the the idea of "love" and that's precisely why my relationships now are stress free compared to when I did because I was so scared of lo…
/r/seduction20/11/20 06:03 PM
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Brothers have a werid atomic level of "dont give a fuck" that borders on nihilism but it's a well functioning nihilism. Where's with the white PUAs I had learned from up to that point were very strategic and ponderous. The pookie and ray ray just went with his gut with a set objective but really no plan. Just made it up as he went along. I was missing that highly responsive gut feeling and obtained it from him.
/r/askTRP20/11/20 05:27 PM
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I'm asian actually. There is no white version of a pookie and ray ray IMO. I chose that archetype simply because it's an extreme on one end of the spectrum and I wanted to learn everything. It was my disatisfication with learning from white PUAs that actually made me look to brothers simply because I felt like they were willing to go the extra mile and I wasnt disappointed.
/r/askTRP20/11/20 04:37 PM
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I was square guy who had a tech job and basically a beta provider. Obviously I was treated as such. Didnt understand why bum guys who made only a quarter of what I did could get girls but I couldnt. Took some classes, tried a couple of PUAs and basically came to the conclusion I had to play an exaggerated version of me. I basically wrote down a character profile of the guy I wanted to play, memorized his story and over time actually got lost in the character. It taught me what being a high value…
/r/askTRP20/11/20 04:21 PM
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What's your opinion of being too available and flexible to meet for date/hangout? Do you think it might ruin the attraction? Yes because you're no challenge. Humans naturally dont appriecate things they dont have to work for. Also... I have been seeing this hot single mother Single mothers are walking red flags. Have fun with her but hes not LTR material.
/r/seduction20/11/20 04:10 PM
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IMO dont approach women at the gym, that's a sexual harrassment case waiting to happen and girls expect guys to approach them there In a gym setting she better do all the initiating.
/r/seduction20/11/20 04:07 PM
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Problem with lies is you have to remember which ones you told and to whom. I've been a serial liar and during that time I developed a character to cosplay as. Developed everything from his backstory, his flaws, bias, strengths, etc and believed so much in my BS I didnt break character. However it's a full time job cauas you're cosplaying as another person and have to remember to stay in character.
/r/askTRP20/11/20 04:00 PM
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Unlikely but I'm just assuming hes being dramatic. We all do after the first couple of blow outs.
/r/seduction20/11/20 04:22 AM
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I find 3000 sets grossly unbelievable. First of all if you're at 3000 you had to of gotten something. I didnt even get to 300 approaches and even my goofy ass had something flop into my boat. If you're doing 3000 approaches you generally learn something from each failure. My guess would be you've dipped your toe in a little. No guy does 3000 approaches and only feels "demotivated". I havent even approached 3000 ladies and I've been at this game for 4 years. How to reach that switch? You hit the …
/r/seduction20/11/20 04:20 AM
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Get the secure job to build your foundation while you're building the career you actually want. The end goal should always be to make a living off your purpose. That being something you actually are passionate about and can live off it.
/r/askTRP19/11/20 04:34 PM
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Absolutely. When I was at that breaking point I just took a breath, detoxed and figured out where I was fucking up before I'd try again. When I was back in field I actually resented having to cold approach and something werid happened. I actually started to get a little better because girls yook my contempt and annoyance as confidence. Prior to that when I cold approached I'd be trying so hard to win her over with technique. After tons of rejection I was just "meh, let's get this shit over with,…
/r/seduction19/11/20 04:13 PM
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You'd would think that but it's not so. I know way too women who thought the grass was greener on the side.
/r/seduction19/11/20 03:57 PM
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A high value man doesnt give that away for free and is too busy to constantly feed her validation: this is where the indifference comes from. totally wish for ur future daughter fall for a ‘non simp’ that will make her feel NOT respected NOT loved and used I tell my sisters all the time if you want that high value guy you best be prepared. My youngest is with a high value man who doesnt have the time to feed her validation but he takes care of business when hes around and she understands this. M…
/r/seduction19/11/20 03:30 PM
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A high value woman will tell u to FUCK off if she doesnt feel loved and cared Then she she can find some other guy to kiss her ass. No shortage of simps out there.
/r/seduction19/11/20 02:21 PM
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Understand that cold approach is a warm up exercise that is important for building your foundation but will not give you much results. Set your expectations accordingly and you're be fine. When I started learning cold approach my rate of return was basically 3% and out of that 3 only 1 actually showed up. Bothered me in the beginning sure but later realized it served its purpose cause when girls would throw me IOIs I already had the muscle memory of what to do from cold approaching. Main problem…
/r/seduction19/11/20 06:03 AM
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When I was faking it till I made it I basically created an entire persona and character. I made his profile, I changed my voice, wore what he would wear and basically was him and didnt break character. Prior to this I had just be dipping my toe in the water but it never worked cause I wasnt 100% in. Finally I was just so hungry and desperate and forced myself to cosplay this guy I had created on paper. I was so retardedly in character I'd forget I could "turn it off now"
/r/seduction19/11/20 05:55 AM
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"Fake it til you make it" doesn't work when no one falls for ir and it seems like I'll never even be fake enough to be confident You're not hungry enough. You have to be almost retardedly full of yourself to believe your own BS to fake it till you make it. I didnt take to "fake it till you make it" the first couple of times too. Wasnt until I was starving to death that I forced myself to believe in the character I was cosplaying as cause I was that hungry. I don't even believe some of this That …
/r/seduction19/11/20 05:34 AM
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The indirect lowkey stuff flies over the head of most guys. You are just gonna have to be blunt and put yourself on the line like everyone else does and just tell him you like him and let him decide what he wants to do.
/r/seduction17/11/20 11:12 PM
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You just took an analogy as literal..... Point of the matter is theres no value in asking a woman how she would like to be seduced cause she doesnt know as she doesnt "hunt" girls. Even in the event she did she doesnt "hunt girls" the same way we do. Women on the other hand do want to "captured" They have an idea of how you want to be captured but guys have all the bait and have to figure it out, our "hunt". Sometimes they are even the ones who set out to get a guy. A girl needs no skill to get …
/r/seduction17/11/20 10:41 PM
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Indifference. Theres little value asking a deer how to hunt deer. The deer doesnt hunt deer, it may think it does but at best it has a novel understanding, the hunter has to know or he starves to death.
/r/seduction17/11/20 10:09 PM
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Pick clothes that you feel comfortable in. Dont pick clothes as a costume. If you're a heavier guy I would reccomend darker colors as it hides your rolls better. Just make sure your clothes arent wrinkled or dirty and you're more or less good. I'm more into accessories so thats really the only thing I'll steal from other dudes be it necklaces, scarves, hats, etc.
/r/seduction17/11/20 10:01 PM
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Look at it this way. Every woman has a movie playing in her head, its starring her and directed by her. The only thing she doesnt do though is edit it. As to your question, woman complain about male sexual desire because they would like to have it "the way they think it is" not how we actually do it in real life. This obviously makes no sense to men but it makes perfect sense to the woman cause they have their own idea of what it should look like. Its precisely why we constantly say "dont ask th…
/r/seduction17/11/20 09:54 PM
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Plates are girls (note the plural) you're dating regularly but havent committed to yet.
/r/seduction17/11/20 02:06 PM
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Your happiness is paramount always. Let things go at their natural pace, if she sticks around for the ride cool, it not meh spin another plate
/r/seduction17/11/20 01:46 PM
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Plates gotta at least be 7 I treat all plates the same regardless, I dont expect them to stick around so theres no need to give more leeway
/r/seduction17/11/20 01:44 PM
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How does that work though by simply making time? It's your time, you decide what to do with it. You dont owe anyone your time if you dont want to give it. You're literally stressing over trying to make time when you could just say "No I dont feel like it". None of those girls are pointing a gun at your head. So does the woman not lose interest in you if you disappear and not make plans with her say after seeing her 2 or 3 times Some may but many actually get more interested cause you're not as i…
/r/seduction17/11/20 07:21 AM
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You simply make time when you feel like it and be ok if they drop off. When I was at peak plates I just went out whenever I felt like it. Dating is suppose to be fun, not a second job. Sure some girls would drop off but so what, I'd just spin another plate. If I didnt want to go out I wouldnt. I'm afraid that if I am progressing with a woman on a 2nd or 3rd date, and I've invested so much into her on these dates that if I skip a week or two from seeing her that the energy between us might fizzle…
/r/seduction17/11/20 06:37 AM
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I always tell every dude to start with The Game by Neil Strauss as its basically a beginners guide. The author starts off as most of us not knowing anything and we follow him on his journey, all the while he explains the basics. After that I feel you can move on to other books like models or Way of the superior man. Keep in mind though, dont spend too much time on just reading. Ultimately you have to field test this stuff and that's the best way to learn this game.
/r/seduction17/11/20 06:23 AM
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Some of the greener members may not like it but you handle textbook brother.
/r/seduction17/11/20 06:13 AM
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Yeah gotta be purposely bipolar almost. The party that cares the least wins but if you've been starving for a long time it's hard for most to do.
/r/seduction17/11/20 03:52 AM
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Sometimes guys gotta vent and get the rage out of their system. All you can do is attempt to be helpful knowing they wont listen but may later when they've calmed down. Then you just say welcome back and restart.
/r/seduction17/11/20 03:47 AM
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IMO a beta cuck is actually dating the girl so not correct.
/r/seduction17/11/20 02:02 AM
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In Patrice's day there was no terminology so he just made it up as he went. I always liked time hoe so use it whenever it's a fat guy asking.
/r/seduction17/11/20 01:54 AM
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Guy that gives away his time in hopes the girl will like him and the girl is aware of this and loans him out to her friends. Example: in my goofy days I actually picked up the friend of my crush's sister from the airport. It was coined by Patrice O'Neal, this was before we used the term simp or orbiter.
/r/seduction17/11/20 01:44 AM
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Gotta stay optimistic, its attrition when you're doing cold approach
/r/seduction17/11/20 12:38 AM
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I cope quite well but thank you
/r/seduction16/11/20 11:44 PM
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It's the freshman class. Useful to beginners but ultimately you have to grow past it. Most dont graduate though
/r/seduction16/11/20 11:37 PM
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If that makes you feel better.
/r/seduction16/11/20 11:34 PM
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Yeah I used say that too.
/r/seduction16/11/20 11:31 PM
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Survival of the fittest mate, nature doesnt make mistakes.
/r/seduction16/11/20 11:31 PM
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We all go through the rage. Hate to see fellow dudes let it consume them.
/r/seduction16/11/20 11:22 PM
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My analysis is shit cause you're angry and not open to listening. I was the same way. After you get it out of your system you're either be fine and refocus that anger or just sit on a soapbox and complain about women. Ultimately all on you mate.
/r/seduction16/11/20 11:16 PM
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Hey man keep at it. You've brought it to my attention theres dudes struggling talking to other dudes
/r/seduction16/11/20 11:03 PM
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Honestly it's just such a foreign concept to me that some dudes have trouble talking to dudes esp at a place where you automatically share hobbies. Prior to Corona I went to lots of nerdy conventions and those goofy guys wouldnt shut up until a female walked by. However if it's working for you keep at mate
/r/seduction16/11/20 10:58 PM
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Yeah but with other dudes? I find even shy dudes can have a dry conversation with other dudes.
/r/seduction16/11/20 10:50 PM
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Nah that's part of 1. I had plenty of classmates who snapped and said fuck it and went full Incel.
/r/seduction16/11/20 10:45 PM
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Since when did dudes have trouble talking to other dudes? If so where are you writing from OP? Even when I was scared shitless of talking to girls I had no problem talking to dudes.
/r/seduction16/11/20 10:43 PM
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"I think you're boss! I just don't feel to open to a romantic thing right now with all that's going on but I still want to talk". This is womanese for "I'm not open to romance with YOU but dont mind your attention. Is it worth attempting to continue to connect with, and pursue this person No, cut your losses. If its brought up by her (not you) remind her what you expect from this "relationship" and take your ball and go. Keep the contact to a minimum, maybe the occasional check-in and coversatio…
/r/seduction16/11/20 10:38 PM
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my anger gradually built up. It did however decrease my approach anxiety. That anger is part of the desensitization. When you reach this point one of two things happens you give into the anger and say fuck it and cut losses. Many Incel origin stories start here. you convert the anger into fuel and it actually helps you have that indifference you need to succeed with women. When I hit that point I simply took some time to recharge and my vibe actually changed cause I lowkey resented having to col…
/r/seduction16/11/20 10:30 PM
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Sigh.... Women are not buying the same thing we are, sell them what they're buying, not what you're buying. A girl is attracted to your "vibe" and how you make them feel. Your looks only let you cut the line and fuck up a few extra times but ultimately you have to talk her into going with you. A girl could fall for a fat funny guy who's interesting to talk to. A handsome unfunny guy who's not interesting to talk to is useless to her. I assume this is because when I'm fat/out of shape I come acro…
/r/seduction16/11/20 05:22 PM
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Understand it's a warm up exercise that wont get you much return but is important to thicken your skin and conquer anxiety. As a result set your expectations accordingly and dont stress over the incoming rejections.
/r/seduction16/11/20 05:11 PM
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Best way to learn is to mirror guys who have what youd like. Then you imitate, feel out what you think works for you, cut what doesnt. Then you develop your own mannerisms through field research. The main thing you need to keep in mind when trying to project a "fun" vibe: make sure she feels something towards you, anything be it hatred, annoyance, sexual tension, etc. The worse thing you could do is make her feel nothing or friendly. For example whenever I talk to a girl I will talk alot of shit…
/r/seduction16/11/20 04:54 PM
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I procrastinate pulling the trigger on these girls forever, because I feel like they provide a lot of value socially or I'm afraid it'll ruin the social dynamics and I will get invited to less things Honestly unless they make really easy I never mess with girls in my immediate social circle. If its work related I esp cut off the possibility cause it could go bad for me. Everyone is sleeping with someone else I know, and I'm hesitant to create drama or "love triangles" or something That doesnt me…
/r/seduction14/11/20 06:59 PM
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You dont need a overcomplicated conversation starter. Frankly the dumber/off topic it is the quicker we realize "oh she likes me and this is her shooting her shot because nobody asks such a random question". For example I had a girl comment on my excellent choice of bottled water and I knew right away that was her way of saying "I'm interested" cause I had generic cheap bottled water and her conversation made no sense.
/r/seduction14/11/20 06:08 AM
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IMO best way is just to let your process speak for itself. When I started learning pickup none of my boys were interested. They did though when they saw my successes cause if I could it they could. IMO the Peer pressure doesnt work unless you're all already invested. If you're just trying to get your mates to start IMO betting doesnt do much. They have to want to do it. Focus on yourself, let your progress advertise to them. Always leave the door open when they're ready to take the leap.
/r/seduction13/11/20 06:47 AM
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Honestly as a girl your confidence has little to do with if we find you attractive. I find girls often mistaken what they find attractive in a man is clearly what men are also looking for in a woman. This isnt the case. Girls find confidence attractive in men. Guys could care less, we're visual. However if you wish to proceed with the "fake it till you make it" you simply mimic someone who has what youd like and overtime you will develop your own. Bare in mind though at some point you will need …
/r/seduction13/11/20 06:40 AM
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It always puzzles me that the guys that "made it" have little understanding of the demo here and cant speak fluent dude. Longterm guys should aspire to what you're saying OP but they're not ready for that wisdom yet, they're starving afterall. That's why they're here. Your average guy on this subreddit is a goofy square dude who's just trying to get in. They cant even imagine what you're talking about yet cause most of them are still trying to figure out how to start. They only think about what …
/r/seduction13/11/20 06:32 AM
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Gotta desensitize yourself. When I started what finally worked for me was I'd imagine the girl in question doing something completely unflattering like sitting on a toliet shitting, etc etc. This would basically demystify her in my eyes and I'd have enough disgust and contempt she took it for confidence. Even when talking to her even if the conversation was going well in my head her voice would be "fuck you motherfucker you ain't shit". This would counter my natural desire to be polite and I'd k…
/r/seduction10/11/20 04:35 AM
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You have to work through the anger and understand why what happened happened and what you did to encourage it. However you wont be able to get here yet simply cause you're gonna be emotional. Let the emotions burn out, rant and get it out of your system. Take a break and then try to piece together what went wrong and what you could of done better. Dont worry about what she did, focus on what you did as that's the only thing you have control over. Once you understand you can get back on the horse…
/r/seduction10/11/20 04:24 AM
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Frankly in my experience as long as a girl has taken care of herself she basically still wants the bad boy archetype. Hell I've seen 40 somethings who still date like its their 20s with obvious results. If she wants a family longterm sure she'll pick a guy shes wouldnt of dated in her early 20s but that guy wont invoke the same emotion the guys she messed with in her early 20s. When I was learning game the easiest girls to sleep with were the married/taken ones cause there was no more excitement…
/r/seduction02/11/20 04:04 PM
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It's not that its taboo its simply a matter of you not getting an honest answer. Most women are socialized to avoid conflict and dont want to hurt your feelings so wont tell you the honest truth to save face. Even years later when I talk to girls I've dated they dont understand why we broke up or think it's something completely different than what I thought. You're much better off sitting quietly and combing through everything you did and could of done better. Dont worry about what the girl did,…
/r/seduction02/11/20 03:36 PM
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In my bones I'm a goofy LTR guy but I know this game too well to slip up. as will I but I think this is at loggerheads with loyalty. Honestly it never bugs me because my GF does the same thing except its unintentional. Shes attractive so guys talk to her. When I talk to other women it's completely intentional. It's to keep my skills sharp and match my GF and has the secondary effect of raising her attraction for me cause other women are interested in me.
/r/seduction31/10/20 02:59 AM
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Indeed, this is why youre here and hopefully will share with other women in your situation to just talk to that guy they like. Dont need to ask him directly if that's too scary but you need to let him know "hey I like you" He'll take it from there.
/r/seduction29/10/20 09:01 PM
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But may I ask, how does it feel to date Latinas and Asians in the US? I'm asian so I find Latinas very compatible due to similar family structure. Only different is they have the extra church community. I've dated filipinas and say it's like dating a Latina and an asian because you get the Asian familial structure/traditional role and double up with that Hispanic familial structure. Basically high chance of wifey material if that's what you're looking for. However if they're westernized they los…
/r/seduction29/10/20 05:36 PM
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Depends on if they're from there or theyre westernized. Basically like dating a Latina and an Asian. Very family oriented, usually church going and expect traditional roles. The degrees depends entirely on if shes FOB, first/second gen.
/r/seduction29/10/20 04:05 PM
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I feel like for some crazy reason girls are taught that guys will come to us and tell us upfront if they like us Frankly theres no incentive on your end to do anything else, its not your fault. Your average girl has plenty of guys they're not interested in giving you attention so why would you ever need to learn how to approach a guy. Honestly as a woman you dont really need to know anything about men because many will come to you first. Your problem is more on the backend where you want to keep…
/r/seduction29/10/20 03:49 PM
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The difference though is you girls dont really need to know how to pick up the signs cause guys are typically direct and even if you missed out theres no shortage of guys that will talk to you. Theres little incentive for you. A guy starves if he cant pick up on the signals. Theres alot of incentive for us to learn them.
/r/seduction29/10/20 03:07 AM
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How did you think I learned? I dropped the ball so many times it finally hit me maybe that girl was actually hitting on me. Girls arent socialized to be direct cause that leaves room for rejection which is another thing they arent socialized to deal with. When they approach it's very lowkey, indirect and easy to miss. It is what it is.
/r/seduction29/10/20 02:23 AM
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Just sit patiently and let them crash and burn. More importantly though when you let him down, dont try to save face and give him false hope. Be very clear that while you appreciate the gesture you're not interested. No maybes/I have a boyfriend when you dont/I'm just working on me right now/ etc excuse. Just say you're not interested and move it along. Rejection sucks but has to be done, false hope though that's the worse, just prolongs the suffering.
/r/seduction29/10/20 02:19 AM
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In that situation she was asking me about work tablets and how mine was missing from yesterday. I knew this was false as I used it the other day and saw it that day. Also she she went way out of her way to see me and her body language was awkward, she was scared to death and gripping onto her tablet as she was talking to me. Then I added in the previous times she reached out and realized "ah she likes me, this is her shooting her shot". I still groaned but waved her over, asked her to give me he…
/r/seduction28/10/20 08:42 PM
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Pretty sure your chances are high. You basically go to his store, ask him any question really and see what he says. He will either ask you to "hang out", this is him asking you out but he doesnt want to scare you off have small talk and end the conversation then once you're gone he'll ask someone if you like him and what he should do 2 is most likely and in that case visit again to make small talk, compliment him and he should understand you're interested and he'll take it from there.
/r/seduction28/10/20 02:51 PM
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What are signs that a guy is interested?? Nonverbally, his body language and tone. We're flirty with girls we like. Verbally, he'll listen to whatever you have to say even if it's not that interesting and remember what you said You wont know any of this until you actually have a face to face with him. Keep in mind he could mistaking your hand waving as just being friendly. But if you went to his store to strike up a conversation he should "get it". For example I worked with this girl that liked …
/r/seduction28/10/20 01:49 PM
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“excuse me gentlemen, do either of you have the pleasure of calling the beautiful lady your woman?” That's a terrible line that telegraphs what you want, validates her and diminishes the fact you had the balls to approach her in spite of her two companions. I've approached girls with guys around and whenever one of them is the actual boyfriend he usually brings this up and I just go with the usual "thought you were her brother man" and then leave.
/r/seduction28/10/20 12:49 PM
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Honestly that whole "silent flirting" goes over our heads most of the time. In this situation something more obvious like waving him over should be enough to let him know it's all good to approach or you could go to his store.... Women who work at stores are suppose to be pleasant and approachable so theres a confusion for most guys causes we arent sure if you're just doing your job or youre legit interested. what would work on you and make you realise a girl wants to get closer to you Just be b…
/r/seduction28/10/20 12:31 PM
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In that situation take my ball and go play elsewhere. I'm better than her, some other guy can waste their time auditioning for her. Always be in abundance gentlemen. Your time is valuable.
/r/seduction28/10/20 03:58 AM
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I'll groan (Rarely met a woman who had a clever approach, usually it's you positioning yourself in the right spot throwing hints to get my attention) Then check if shes attractive to me, if yes then I'll take it from there and ask you out cause I know you're not going to.
/r/seduction23/10/20 04:36 AM
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Dont get back on the horse until you're in the correct headspace. Esp if the break up was fresh. Sometimes you need to take time off to recharge esp in your situation.
/r/seduction22/10/20 09:17 PM
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but I'm sure a woman will find a model looking guy more appealing regardless over an average joe. She will upfront until he opens his mouth and disappoints her. Your looks will never get you across the finish line because ultimately you have to convince a woman to go out with you. Your confidence helps you in that Good looks let you cut the line and allows you a few extra fuck ups. You still have to be able to talk to women and convince them to go out with you. Unlike an attractive women who doe…
/r/seduction22/10/20 09:14 PM
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Again I do too but those girls still perceived them to be better than them. I've been a bum dude and had girls but they still perceived me as better than her cause I didnt give a shit about my situation at the time and she found that exciting cause she in her world you should care what others think. The bad boy archetype is seen as "better that her". However most bum guys arent badboys, the few that are are exceptions and those dont get rid of the rule.
/r/seduction22/10/20 01:27 PM
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It's hard at first but paramount if you want to keep them around
/r/seduction22/10/20 01:00 PM
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I'm talking normal average people. I know girls that dated bum dudes too but those exceptions dont get rid of the rule
/r/seduction22/10/20 12:50 PM
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The patron saint of fat guys getting women is Patrice O'neal. Patrice was a fat ugly dude but because of that he had to work harder and figured it out and shared it to the unwashed masses. Women like us for different things, a girl could love a charming funny fat guy, you couldnt love a fat charming funny girl. Once you understand girls like us for other things this game becomes easy. It's a long road with alot of suffering but if you survive the world is your oyster.
/r/seduction22/10/20 02:32 AM
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Tell that to the hordes of guys on this subreddit who did exactly that and the girl got bored and ghosted. I always tell women that enter spaces like this that if you dislike the advice so much offer better advice. The reason guys come here and listen to us is you cannot argue against results. It's really not that complicated. Maybe you wouldnt look at it as needy if a guy was your text buddy but exceptions dont cancel out the rule.
/r/seduction22/10/20 02:28 AM
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Of course you wouldnt like this sub, you're not the demo. Never to text unless it's to set up something in person - this is insane and I would not give a guy the time of day if he just ignored conversation. I don't know any who thinks this is attractive or makes them more appealing. You would because hes a challenge. People dont value things they dont have to work for. Likewise on your end you shouldnt give us sex right away because we wont value you. There is no "Worth Scale". I don't think I'm…
/r/seduction22/10/20 02:18 AM
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The thing is even if you did improve your looks you still have the mentality of an insecure defeatist dude. For example when I did lose weight and started to dress better I did get a little more attention from women but I still had that same mentality prior to losing the weight and dressing better so while I looked the part I hadn't worked on my verbal and charm skills. I always stress to dudes work on your verbal game in the short term, surface traits in the long. Its gonna take you a few month…
/r/seduction22/10/20 02:09 AM
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You have to understand to her that's just a normal thing. She doesnt view it as special. You do cause that's not your experience. A hot girl is accustomed to all eyes on her with all its pros and cons. One of which is she cannot fully trust if a person is talking to her cause shes hot or cause of her personality. Knowing and understanding this will help you get her
/r/seduction21/10/20 03:34 AM
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The thing if a girl likes you enough upfront (which tinder favors more) she wont care what dumb thing comes out of your mouth. Online dating doesnt really favor the clever guy. It's mostly surface level that wins out and why I always suggest guys get off the apps and meet women IRL.
/r/seduction21/10/20 03:23 AM
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Theres no proper way. It's all conviction and how you say it. If you're afraid of offending her you're already loaing. For example a friend introduced me to a friend and she was petite and obviously had a push up bra. I literally looked at her tits and said "no way those tits are legit". She gasped, was upset and we bantered back and forth, I de escalated and we started to talk about her actual cup size, bras she prefers and lingerie and then foreplay.
/r/seduction21/10/20 03:20 AM
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Wont work over tinder cause theres no context, tone shift and nonverbals. Imagine you texted a girl "your ass needs work". Theres no context, no tone shifts or nonverbal cues it's meant as a flirt. Vs You take her hand, spin her around, stop midway to stare at her butt. Complete the spin, pause and think to yourself and then say disappointed "your ass needs some work". Both are the same but yet different at the same time.
/r/seduction21/10/20 03:08 AM
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Same, guy spoke fluent dude and even if his style wasnt for you he was spitting solid fundamentals.
/r/seduction20/10/20 01:53 PM
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You're literally doing girl shit. Plotting my “subtle” plan i landed on “i’ll just walk downstairs with no shirt on and shorts without underwear” I left the boxers in plain sight on the end of my bed thinking maybe she would see them and move them? This stuff a girl does to get us. It doesnt work the other way around. You being goofy. I have had many girlfriends and partners in my life so this isn’t like anything new. Calling BS there, be honest mate. What should i do for her to notice me withou…
/r/seduction20/10/20 05:01 AM
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That is basically my style in a nutshell. I will purposely try to make a girl upset and pissed off and then de escalate and go into normal seduction. Does this technique have a name so I could do more reading on it? It's basically an atomic neg. Patrice Oneal called it bear hunting though and I go with that cause it was his style. Cant read about it, at best you can listen to it but you have to do it and make it your own. If you do use it, how do you know what is the right topic to use it on and…
/r/seduction20/10/20 04:43 AM
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Frankly to me theres no border. IMO you're always better off going several miles over your personal boundaries until you're satisfied and then you pull back and establish your boundaries. It's just a bad mindset to walk on eggshells like you're doing right now. You're not going to know what "going too far" looks like if you're never been there. Now my question is at what point are you going too far with telling a girl what to do? None, you're suppose to tell her what to do if you're asking her o…
/r/seduction20/10/20 04:27 AM
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Imagine your BF has a jellybean jar with your name on it. Everytime you do the following he puts a jellybean in You leave him alone when he wants it sex do something unexpected for him support him when he wants it Now if you do the following below he takes jellybeans out. complain/nag (you're doing that right now btw) drone on with a story without the point sex is uniformal and less frequent ask him to so things he doesnt want to All you need to do is make sure your BF is putting more jellybeans…
/r/seduction20/10/20 04:12 AM
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It's possible but understand it's a poor foundation for a relationship if that's what you want. I've been the "other man" a couple of times and while it's not as difficult as single women you will never trust her if she dumps her BF for you. Also got to deal with the angry BF and that opens another can of worms. In short just talk to single women and put this girl on the backburner.
/r/seduction20/10/20 04:03 AM
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Actually ought to do it anyways. Keep in mind though that you start off 2 cars behind because girls talk and her friends likely know she friendzoned you and it doesnt do you many favors when you talk to them.
/r/seduction20/10/20 03:58 AM
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Hate to break it to you but you dont get good at this in 50 days. Theres no cheat code or shortcuts. It took me a couple of months to finally get ok with women and 3 years to get to a point where my relationships are stressfree. Also couple of things All of my friends are now married and moved away to different states. I'm all alone. My ex broke up with me in February a month before quarantine. Frankly mate you're not in the right headspace to get back on the dating market. You gotta be ok being…
/r/seduction20/10/20 03:51 AM
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It's an excuse. Shes pimping you but shes 28, shes been there done that, not surprising. Theres alot of ego on her end. Best play is to just dismiss her and not play her game. Enjoy the other girls, they'll put out if the other girl doesnt want to. Theres nothing wrong with being seen as a player/womanizer. Many women will view it as a challenge and try to "tame" you. Also gives you alot of social proof and preselection that helps. Some girls will avoid you sure but you dont want to deal with th…
/r/seduction20/10/20 03:36 AM
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This is perfectfully normal and commonplace. When I was starting out learning I'd do the following: imagine the girl doing something nonsexual and disgusting, for me it was her taking a dump. Nothing sexual about that. Itd change my mood from awe and anxiety to disgust and indifference. I listened to alot of Patrice Oneal while learning and I'd have a inner voice in my head when I felt myself slipping telling me "You better than her!"/ "she ain't shit" etc etc. Again my mood would change from aw…
/r/seduction20/10/20 03:27 AM
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I wouldnt dispute that. AG is very much a dude who just tiptoes and makes RP digestible for squares. As I said before I'm pretty sure the majority opinion would be that AG is milquetoast. He has his lane, to me you stay in your lane we good.
/r/askTRP19/10/20 06:01 PM
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Doesnt matter to me if he is a BP cuck. He serves his purpose and introduces RP idea to square dudes from a square dude perspective. Hes diet coke. Flavorless and bland but a stepping stone to full favor coke. That's all Im interested in.
/r/askTRP19/10/20 05:55 PM
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Depends on the manner of how you do it. If you just hand it over it meekly you just gave her another trophy. If you chatted with her, cut her off to leave, sighed and annoyingly gave her your number and left in a hurry then she is likely to give you a call. I used to work at the club I logistically had to just hand my number out cause I didnt have the time to put it into my phone. This peaked girls' interest because I gave it out as just an afterthought and abruptly ended pretty decent conversat…
/r/seduction15/10/20 03:49 AM
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Social skills always outweight physical. Good looks only let you cut the line and gives you a few free fuck ups. You still need the social skills to get across the finish line and talk her into sleeping with you. Most average dudes arent gonna be able to take advantage of looks anyways. This doesnt mean you dont try to work out and stay healthy but that's always been to build your confidence not for women. Women arent buying looks that's what we want. Girls are attracted to your vibe, how you "c…
/r/seduction15/10/20 03:05 AM
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At some point you always have to be direct. Even if the girl likes you alot and makes it super easy for you you're gonna have to take her up on that offer and approach her. Its always optimal. Girls aren't going to approach you and ask you out directly, they've never had to talk a dude into dating them and arent socialized to deal with rejection.
/r/seduction14/10/20 03:20 PM
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Frankly everybody is going to judge you but fuck um. Theres a 12 age gap with my GF and sure there were people around her talking shit but if she likes you enough she'll power through it. Main problem you have is you're afraid of coming off as creepy. You're going to come off as creepy and scare them off. Solve that fear first or you're gonna be only dating women your own age.
/r/seduction14/10/20 03:35 AM
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This^
/r/seduction14/10/20 03:27 AM
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Honestly the main reason you're working out in the first place to be develop your confidence and good habits. I only work out to mantain a healthy BMI and to not get lazy. Unless you want to be a professional bodybuilder just mantain a consistent fitness routine and a healthy BMI. Also dont neglect your verbal muscles, understand it's your those that will get you across the finish line. A good physique simply gives you the initial confidence and a few free fuck ups I see way too many dudes who s…
/r/seduction14/10/20 03:26 AM
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Dont feel sorry mate. I'm one of those "less genetically" gifted and I did just fine. Just gotta learn other skills and get in where you fit in.
/r/seduction14/10/20 03:02 AM
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If a girl likes you enough she wont care what dumb thing comes out of your mouth.
/r/seduction13/10/20 05:19 AM
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It's not all that great, theres pros and cons. If you're legit at peace with not playing the game look for a new goal and purpose. Frankly you shouldnt place your own happiness and fulfillment on another person ever. Dont put women on pedestals, I can feel it in your envy. Find your own path and self fulfillment and if a woman comes by, cool if not no matter. Always focus on you.
/r/seduction13/10/20 05:18 AM
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Likely by the time shes back you wont be interested or already be taken. Typically been my experience. Good hunting
/r/seduction13/10/20 05:04 AM
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Dang I didnt know about him shitting on Stefan, like that dude. Dunno enough Anthony Johnson except he runs the convention in Florida. Had good guests this year though. Alexander Grace posted a vid (IMO victimizing himself) awhile back about he wasnt going to use the term RP to describe himself because he was getting pushback from unnamed sources. Later down the comments Rollo basically says "it was me" and basically spiked the ball. Granted Rollo had legit beef cause Grace did cite his work som…
/r/askTRP13/10/20 05:02 AM
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In this situation all you can do is refuse her friendship, repeat your intent of dating her and leave. Legit leave but leave the door open. She doesnt exist anymore, clean cut. No contact on your end. Be polite if you run into her but shes a stranger as far as you're concerned. She will push and test your resolve, dont give in and cut her off. After some time if theres any interest she'll reach out lowkey and it's basically a reset, now dont fuck up again. Bear in mind, dont sit around waiting o…
/r/seduction13/10/20 04:25 AM
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Abundance. It's the only way to do it long term. Short term you can fill your time with hobbies, friends and work but abundance nips the thrist bud quick. You're still feel the urge but your mind will tell you to shut the fuck up and focus and you're good again
/r/seduction13/10/20 04:18 AM
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Wrong dudes. Clingy dudes are the ones already in the relationship and fucking it up. Less options and horny are just your basic single guy. He cant be clingy if he doesnt even have a woman to start.
/r/seduction13/10/20 04:09 AM
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Never ask for/define the relationship, let her take it at her own pace. If you just want FwB treat her like a girl you have a FwB with. She'll get the hint and ask you "what is this?"/ "why dont you do this?" Then you can bring up your expectations and she'll either agree or disagree.
/r/seduction13/10/20 04:06 AM
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Next, move it along. Also understand it's your fault. She was interested in the beginning but somehow you talked her out of it. She was interested, you somehow failed your "audition" and now she just wants to friends. Figure it out so you dont do it to next girl.
/r/seduction13/10/20 04:02 AM
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Not referring to Anthony Johnson, I dont know enough about it. I'm referring to Alexander Grace. I get that hes milquetoast but many dudes find the RP through his soft gloves and eventually expand to other content creators. That's his lane and while hes a punk to back down IMO it didnt warrant Rollo dogging him and "excommunicating" him. Likewise some in his clique (the latino dude, dunno his name and bulldog) regularly shit on mgtow content creators when they literally share the same audience. …
/r/askTRP13/10/20 03:58 AM
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Clingy women are commonplace, they're suppose to do that. The question you need to be asking is why so many dudes copy that kind of behaviour.
/r/seduction13/10/20 03:43 AM
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Honestly got the most value and learned the most from "hood" dudes, they have a perspective that's very practical. They speak fluent dude and once you get past the passion theres gems. I dont really consider Donovan "hood". He basically moved up in the world and lives in "white world". His main value to me has always been woman management and that's about it. Dunno about his personal situation with his woman. Just looking for value.
/r/askTRP13/10/20 03:19 AM
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Honestly when you have most of these things (esp 4) you wont even bother pursuing women. You will passively attract them to you doing stuff you were already doing.
/r/seduction12/10/20 08:04 PM
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Oh I did the same thing. I'm asian so I did the whole go to school, got a good job, etc etc. Plastic surgery isnt going to help much, your mindset is off. Even if you switched bodies with some hot guy you wouldn't be able to carry yourself correctly cause you have that defeatist mindset. Women arent us, they like us for other shit. They arent buying the same thing we are. I could never love a charming fat girl but a girl could love a charming fat guy.
/r/seduction12/10/20 05:57 PM
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It's to not hurt your feelings. Girls usually have had experiences of guys flipping out so try to save face and not hurt your feelings. I know it's annoying but dont take it personally, it will happen again. Just shrug and move it along.
/r/seduction12/10/20 05:47 PM
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Women are sensibly encouraged to meet partners in college as it's one of best places for them to pick a guy. It's harder for them after college. However that's a different topic entirely. Single guys in your early 20s, not gonna lie you're fucked unless you learn some skills (that's why you're here). You're very much in the experimentation phase. It was never suppose to be easy. I will tell you though after you go through the shit and survive it you will be better off and find relationships much…
/r/seduction12/10/20 05:45 PM
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Edit: For any girls on this sub, what is your perspective? Like what do you think is okay to do in these times or just advise to do nothing and wait it all out till things get a bit more normal Never ask fish about fish, ask the fisherman. As to your question, it depends on your lockdown conditions. In my city everything is open at 50% capacity so it's just business as usual except no events. Still not ideal though, the girls I do run into "date with a purpose" cause covid has made them realize …
/r/seduction12/10/20 04:27 PM
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Donovan Sharpe is kind of in between for me. He gives me the vibe that he is a bit angry for some reason. Donovan himself admits he has a shoot first ask questions later attitude thus he comes off as angry to some
/r/askTRP12/10/20 04:15 PM
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She said she will let me know later as she's not sure That's womanese for "no I'm not interested but I dont want to hurt your feelings and want to save face"
/r/seduction12/10/20 04:12 PM
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Keep in mind you can read as much as you like but in order to get good at this game you need to actually get into the field and experiment. Which yes includes alot of rejection and pain. When I started I read "The Game" by Neil Strauss because he basically had what I wanted in the short term. Read other things like "Way of the Superior Man" and "Models" but reading can only help you theorize. I learned everything in field by bumbling into clubs, coffee shops, bookstores, etc etc. You will learn …
/r/seduction12/10/20 04:07 PM
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College just has a higher dating pool. I didnt know what I was doing then but there were just so many women there was someone there who liked me and made it easy. College is certainly a good time to seek something longterm if that's what you want as you will rarely be in another time where theres such a massive dating pool. However I'm in my early 30s and my dating life has massively improved cause I know more than I did in my 20s.
/r/seduction12/10/20 03:47 PM
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His books are fine and the main value I take from him, it's the man himself I take issue with cause he takes himself way too seriously and acts like hes the RP Pope who can excommunicate other men he disagrees with. IMO he should stay in his intellectual lane instead of shitting on other content creators (himself or his clique) minding their own business.
/r/askTRP12/10/20 03:40 PM
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Frankly you just have to take what works and discard what doesnt. Nobody is infallible, take what works in your current situation and move it along. Redpill coach has some good shit but as you've noticed he doesnt always get everything right. Hell I cant stand Rollo (he acts like hes the RP Pope) but still take what I find effective from him.
/r/askTRP12/10/20 03:19 PM
2

I heard Patrice O'Neal in my head saying "you punk ass bitch! She ain't shit motherfucka, you better than her". Rest is history.
/r/seduction27/09/20 06:13 PM
2

That said, wtf is an instadate? You cold approach a girl, interaction is good. Instead of exchanging numbers and leaving you take her on a date on the spot. Thus instadate.
/r/seduction26/09/20 02:43 PM
1

If it actually works. Cant argue with results
/r/seduction26/09/20 02:27 AM
1

Meh, control what you can, dont worry about stuff you cant. Somethings you have free will
/r/seduction25/09/20 08:06 PM
1

Some of "career" is out of your control. "Me" is very much the only thing you can control thus its separate.
/r/seduction25/09/20 05:45 PM
1

Its just that I cant be rude when I need That's a matter of you being overcoming your fear of losing her. You have to be ok risking her saying fuck you. If you're afraid of offending her you cant ever get good at this. You dont need to be a dick but you have to be ok being disagreeable/"rude". Most guys self edit themelseves cause they dont want to be seen as an asshole.
/r/seduction25/09/20 05:10 PM
0

What alot of people dont understand is the Rake's "compliments" tend to be more backhanded or if they're validating they are at least sexual tension creating. It's not practical if you're not smooth but even then IMO its tiring. I was the Rake archetype and you basically just feed her alot of sweet nothings to get what you need. The problem is you cannot build a stable relationship being the Rake because its built on gassing the woman's ego up. It'll get you laid but wont keep her around cause s…
/r/seduction25/09/20 04:54 PM
4

You expand it by doing things you were already interested in that happen to have women around. If you're looking for a specific type of girl you need to figure out where that girl hangs out and if you actually want to be there. Example: I like the slim model type and happen to already go to fashion shows because I'm interested in Mens fashion. My chances of running into that type of girl is higher and we already have something in common to talk about. Bad example: you like the fitness girl but a…
/r/seduction25/09/20 04:37 PM
1

It's not so much a turn off, rather it's nothing special. Being polite is like you selling me a car and I ask you about its features and you say "well it has wheels". You dont get points for being polite, most people are generally polite. As for soft spoken, it's only attractive if you have a quiet confidence or you're stoic. Polite and soft spoken is pretty much nice guy vibes. It's boring and vallina. If you want to attract a girl you have to invoke some kind of emotion in her like make her la…
/r/seduction25/09/20 03:40 PM
1

Where is that line thats it is over, It's a gut feeling. For example when a girl did something I disliked my gut would tell me "fuck I hate this bitch right now and cant explain it, let me think". Where I messed up is I'd keep it to myself and not say anything. When I said fuck it and actually told women honestly "look why did you just do that?" My relationships became alot easier because I was able to set boundaries early. I do not want to invest in this relationship anymore If your gut is tell…
/r/seduction25/09/20 03:03 PM
1

Stand corrected then. Well I'm gonna put family over career then.
/r/seduction25/09/20 02:00 PM
1

Needs more context. Typically a long frontal hug with her arms over your shoulders is the "romantic" one. The hug from behind can easily be a friendly one.
/r/seduction25/09/20 05:01 AM
2

Yes but you're better off actually doing it so you get a frame of reference vs stressing over potentially doing it. Once you have that frame of reference you wont do it again cause the experience is burned in your head. Key thing is getting over yourself for fucking up and getting back in. Embrace failure and learn from it.
/r/seduction25/09/20 04:57 AM
1

Yes because you forget the other woman quick as theres another right there. Bare in mind you should always be like that even if you only have 1 girl. Always be in abundance.
/r/seduction25/09/20 04:50 AM
2

work related events coffee shops (everything is reopened in my state) grocery store restaurants It's not ideal and I honestly think for most dudes just write this year off until stuff reopens. A reoccurring thing I've noticed is since the lockdown suddenly women are "dating with a purpose" and wanna move way too quickly and just want someone to kill time until the lockdown is over. Your mileage may vary on your location obviously.
/r/seduction25/09/20 04:47 AM
3

Face is first, it's what I'm going to see most of the time. After that then eyes and body.
/r/seduction25/09/20 04:39 AM
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If you're just starting literally just start interacting with women. Dont even try to date them and dont be picky. Talk to attractive/ugly women and just get used to being around them. The main problem dudes have is we get nervous around women we like and act differently around them. You have to be able to treat that hot girl like shes just some regular girl you dont have any interest in romantically. You do that by getting used to being around women in general.
/r/seduction25/09/20 04:38 AM
1

Gotta be aggressive, you expecting her to ask you first? At best she'll make herself easily available to give you the opportunity to ask her out.
/r/seduction25/09/20 04:31 AM
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I just tell guys to say whatever is in their gut no matter. If she likes you she wont care what dumb thing comes out of your mouth. When you start a list of what not to say you just stress a dude out over something that's already stressful as it is. Only thing you need to know when you approach a girl is your goal should be to invoke an emotion out of her be it make her laugh, make her mad, anything. Dont overthink or overcomplicate it. Less is more. If you worry too much about what not to say y…
/r/seduction25/09/20 04:29 AM
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It generally takes a girl longer to like you than it takes us. Just let her set the pace and treat it as a nice surprise when she replies back. Also you should better things to do besides counting the time it takes for her to reply back. Much like a cat, she will come to you when she feels like it. Dont get mad, they're just like that.
/r/seduction25/09/20 04:22 AM
1

Nah pretty sure it was "me, my mother, my career and then my girl, oh and then my fish".
/r/seduction25/09/20 04:09 AM
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Yes. They were there from the beginning and have more time in than my GF.
/r/seduction24/09/20 05:18 PM
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No. Shes not blood, she only married into the family. Shes always fourth
/r/seduction24/09/20 05:17 PM
1

I mean, even in person, if you're not her type/she's not physically attracted, then no negs/pushpull/eslf amusement/'game' is gonna cut any ice, tbh It's a matter of time management. If I'm not her type in person it's a matter of I say hey, she turns me down and I go about my day. Its quick and instant. Vs Online I send a DM, wait for however long and either dont get a reply or a thanks after a couple of hours. and I still think it's more efficient online You simply havent made a good case for i…
/r/seduction24/09/20 03:37 PM
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A girl cannot make you happy, only you can make you happy. Hell its partially your job to figure out how to make her happy, youd be an fool to expect her to make you happy. As the GOAT Patrice O'Neil said "my girlfriend is the fourth most important thing in my life". The others are: 1 - yourself 2- your family/friends 3- your goals/aspirations 4- your GF/BF Always love yourself first.
/r/seduction24/09/20 03:06 PM
2

Indeed that's why I let her do everything and didnt lift a finger. Normally yes you shouldnt be shitting where you're eating but if it's in your face and she makes it obvious well.... Also she was an intern, she'd be leaving in a few weeks anyways.
/r/seduction24/09/20 02:57 PM
1

It's actually worse than cold approach in terms of time usage. With online you're competing with way too many others. A real life cold approach is at least quick and to the point. girls will be receptive if they like how you look, and you're wasting your time if you're NOT her type Frankly you dont know until she responds. IRL you figure this out right away, online theres a waiting period. It's the same online and in person. It's just a bit more efficient to message girls on insta I guess. No it…
/r/seduction24/09/20 02:52 PM
2

In a "I really want to fuck you but dont want to come off as slutty or risk rejection".
/r/seduction24/09/20 02:45 PM
1

To you your profile isnt bad or average. You wont know until you actually put it to the test.
/r/seduction24/09/20 01:06 PM
1

That's frivolous though if I said that as I didnt explain why. Also generalizations are good conversation starters and idea sharing.
/r/seduction24/09/20 04:12 AM
1

Yes but the objective is the flirt/converse. I'm just skipping the semantics discussion we're having and moving to the point of the "hi" Yes it's a greeting but it's such a pointless nitpick over semantics when the OP is trying to figure out how to flirt with me.
/r/seduction24/09/20 04:08 AM
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The thing is you cant really flirt over text effectively without the physical contact and tension. I've had girls flirt with me over text and it just annoyed me and made end the conversation early until I saw her in person the next day. Like the sexual tension of a good in person flirt.
/r/seduction24/09/20 04:03 AM
2

an effective strategy is game (make jokes, ask emotionally interesting questions, etc) to get in, then once a guy is in and has the girl's attention, it's just normal conversation so he doesn't look like he's trying too hard or is a robot? Yes. Once you're in just go with the flow and stop thinking, just do. At a later point you will even get tired of openers or approaching women all together but that's down the road.
/r/seduction24/09/20 03:58 AM
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Honestly a better flirty Hi is you send a tasteful pic of you holding a paper saying hi or a cute head shot with hi. Because we get confused with a dry hi. Ive had girls who were interested just send "hey/hi" and I just have a basic conversation with them and move on and then they're suddenly upset I didnt "get the hint". You need to make it clear, misunderstandings can land me in HR. Now you send a cute pic of you waving or with a Hi, now I get it.
/r/seduction24/09/20 03:52 AM
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No prob brother. Want you guys crushing it and being happy. Can you please explain more on how over-gaming makes a guy come off as weird? Its ultimately fake and you will trip over yourself after you've run out of "script". I actually took a RSD class with Madison back in the day and basically when we'd go out we would have a pre rehearsed script as "training wheels" to get us started. The thing is at some point I'd run out of material and start to strategize on the spot with the girl right ther…
/r/seduction24/09/20 03:36 AM
1

Set your expectations accordingly is all I can say. The hardest part of cold approach is keeping yourself motivated to do it. There will be alot of nos but you only need 1 yes. As to your game plan, that's more of less how to do it. The more you do it the more elaborate your approach will be. Once you get over the rejections you can move on to more complex methods but right now just get out and start experimenting.
/r/seduction24/09/20 03:07 AM
1

No its dry conversation.
/r/seduction24/09/20 02:54 AM
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Corey's the godfather but he cant be everywhere. Make sure you share your success and help up another dude struggling. You were that dude at one point help his ass up.
/r/seduction24/09/20 02:50 AM
1

If that works for you, keep doing you but the average goofy dude isnt DMing a girl and getting laid.
/r/seduction24/09/20 02:07 AM
2

Imagine your favorite food. Now imagine you had it 3 times a day 7 times a week. I imagine that wouldnt be your favorite food anymore? Basically same concept. If you spoil your girl too much she wont appriecate it and take you for granted.
/r/seduction23/09/20 07:49 PM
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Everything in moderation. As you noted it can be seen as clingy. I say you dont do any cute shit but youre gonna do it anyways. A good ratio is 3 to 1. You give 1 xyz for every 3 xyz. It cant be a 1:1 ratio simply because she'll stop appreciating it. Scarcity creates value.
/r/seduction23/09/20 07:14 PM
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She wont be taken aback unless shes a prune which in that case you dont want to date anyways. Girls that are easily offended are energy vampires. In most cases the girl answers it right away, talks a little about him and I say that's nice and best wishes, peace. In my experience "I have a boyfriend" is 50/50 a lie just to end a conversation quickly. Ive seen it done by my female friends and Ive used it to not have to explain myself to women I'm not interested in. It's a perfectfully sensible tac…
/r/seduction23/09/20 07:08 PM
2

Ultimately less is more. Basically in PUA, youre "cosplaying" a cooler version of yourself whenever you're approaching. After a successful encounter and you're in you have to just go with the flow and have the normal/boring conversations because that's more natural. If you "overgame" you basically come off as robotic and werid and girls feel it and get suspicious. Less is more. In many of Max's old vids he'd basically game hard to get in and after that just pullback and let the encounter play ou…
/r/seduction23/09/20 06:53 PM
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"How long you been together?" If she doesnt have a BF she wont be able to answer this quickly. Then you know she was lying. If she answers quick then she's legit, you move it along to the next girl. The "I have a BF" line is so overused half of the time it's a lie to get you off their back. Cant blame them though as it works on most guys.
/r/seduction23/09/20 06:34 PM
3

Understand that the majority of dudes coming to this subreddit just started or about to dip their toe in and treat it accordingly. As for book of Pook though, it's a wonderful book and I always reccomend guys read it. You may not like it but when you start getting results it's hard to argue with it.
/r/seduction23/09/20 06:32 PM
3

Yes but understand when women approach us they dont do it in the same way we do it. They're not socialized to deal with rejection on a daily basis so their method is more indirect. Latest example was we got a new intern and we're having a team meeting. She squeezes next to me despite there being plenty of room elsewhere. After the meeting is over she lingers around me, asks me dumb questions as an ice breaker. We talk, couple of days later she "asks for help" and I have her pushed against the ba…
/r/seduction23/09/20 05:42 PM
1

Interacting with women over social media is a very poor method of attracting women simply because you just join her fanclub. You wont get rejected directly, if she even notices she'll thank you and let you join her fanclub and that's about it. It's not her fault though, you have to understand the average girl is getting plenty of dudes that drop into their DMs and try to talk to them. She has to manage her admirers. Those girls are dating obviously but they're not dating the guys that drop into …
/r/seduction23/09/20 05:34 PM
2

Much like a cat, she'll return when she feels like it. Dont think about why shes stonewalling. Could be anything for all we know. Stop texting too much, let her take it at her own pace. You're being ignored because you're over invested. Back off, let her text back when she wants to. If she was serious she'd be blowing up your phone. Shes doing what most would do and going with the flow and figuring out what she wants. It generally takes a girl longer to like us than it does us guys. If you const…
/r/seduction23/09/20 05:26 PM
0

Write this year off and keep your powder dry. The alternative is online dating, drawing from your social circles/workplace. Obviously with it's own problems.
/r/seduction22/09/20 05:45 PM
1

Most guys start off with no preselection. That's something to build in the long term and it's usually unintentionally built doing stuff you were already doing. Also dread game is for later when you're managing women you're already messing with. Youre completely out of order, overthinking stuff that isnt relevant yet as you're just trying to build up your SMV. As to how to build up your SMV go learn new skills, talk with girls and experiment. You dont have any options so go get some candidates.
/r/seduction31/08/20 07:54 PM
1

I am lonely and constantly feel like a third wheel whenever my friends and their S.O.s hang out with me That's a terrible reason to want to pursue any sort of relationship. You will come off as thristy. As to "how to make the sell" without being a douche you cant worry about being a douche and just do it with a degree of indifference.
/r/seduction30/08/20 02:24 PM
5

Invade our personal space, we'll take it from there. We already know within a few seconds if we want to sleep with you. You dont need to convince us, you just have to leave the door open.
/r/seduction20/08/20 03:13 PM
2

No. If that were true the guys with legit social status wouldnt be so goofy. Game is basically manipulation. All it is really at the end of the day.
/r/seduction20/08/20 01:42 PM
4

When I was doing it it was a 3% return. This means the encounter ended with fucking at some point. 97% were either rejections and flakes. Cold approach is more of a exercise rather than primary method. Set your expectations accordingly and you'll be fine.
/r/seduction20/08/20 01:37 PM
1

No cause you have no control over it so why worry about it.
/r/seduction17/08/20 02:15 PM
1

You dont care or express any concern because in your head you should be secure in knowing shes not going anywhere. Anything else makes you look weak and invites problems she will bring up to the ex. In the event a stick approach (cause she crossed your boundaries) is needed simply practice dread. It will be slightly harder for you as you already gave her the security of marriage but it's the best play.
/r/seduction17/08/20 02:07 PM
2

Anywhere you normally would go to. However given the current circumstances youd be hard pressed to find a venue. When stuff reopens though you dont want to go to a place for the specific goal of networking because you give off that disingenuous vibe. My work is very network dependent and theres no shortage of people who are just there to give you cards and not enjoy the event and make small talk.
/r/askTRP14/08/20 04:01 AM
1

If online dating works for you do it but I'd argue that the average dude is better off IRL.
/r/seduction12/08/20 01:40 PM
3

if you can get yourself some good looking profile pictures. Or you can meet women IRL without figuring out how to take a good picture.
/r/seduction12/08/20 01:22 PM
19

1) write a list of traits you want in a girl 2) cut the list in half 3) figure out where this girl hangs out 4) go to that place and mingle Dont bother with online dating. Always try to meet IRL as you can show off your non surface traits.
/r/seduction12/08/20 03:03 AM
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It really depends on what you want and where you're act experience wise. Each dating coach specializes in a particular thing and seeks a particular type of woman. Pick a coach who has what youd like. For example: Corey Wayne is basically looking for GF/wifey material women as a square dude. Hes very much against any deception and is upfront. AMS is trying to get you ass with as little time wasted as possible. No holds barred. Todd is teaching you the conventional classic method Etc etc
/r/seduction11/08/20 04:08 PM
2

Honesty. I enjoyed my time in PUA but the business model always bugged me as it doesnt incentivise transparency. To use an analogy I view PUAs as one stop along the track of seduction. My train stops and I learn whatever the PUA has and get back on my train to the next station but the PUA insists I need to stay here even though he cant teach me anything more. That's basically how I felt when I was going through workshops. I was basically retaking the same class and whenever I'd ask "what's after…
/r/seduction11/08/20 02:19 PM
4

Pimp: Story of my Life by Iceberg Slim Read this book after you have the basics down. I only started reading it after I was starting to have some success but couldnt keep women around after. Basically it goes over the maintenance of women (ignore the physical element as it doesnt apply to us) and the psychological aspects of it. Also goes over frame control.
/r/seduction11/08/20 02:00 PM
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It's not equal. Each sex just faces different issues. Equality would mean both sexes have the same problems, they dont. A 20 something girl and guy's experience isnt equal as much as a 40 something woman and man
/r/seduction09/08/20 12:53 PM
2

Sorry if it sounds taboo, man, but I checked a bit of your recent post history. It sounds as if you became a club promoter at some point and you found this position really opened things up a bit--not particularly surprising, "good for you" and all, but realize this kind of thing or its equivalent is not attainable for just anyone. Its not but I still started like anyone else. The club promoter position simply gave me my epiphany. And made me realize I was working harder than I needed to. It seem…
/r/seduction09/08/20 12:40 PM
1

Yes but the question is do you have the drive to improve. I can lead you to water but you still have to drink it yourself
/r/seduction08/08/20 01:41 PM
1

It will take time depending on what I'm working with.
/r/seduction07/08/20 03:06 PM
2

It is but requires maintenance if it doesnt come natural to you. I know plenty of men who dont have a pot to piss in or anything going for them but their women perceive them as higher than them simply because they have that devil may cry attitude. Bare in mind though even those guys have alot of confidence in themselves. If you have no confidence and nothing going for you then theres more work involved. However it can be done
/r/seduction04/08/20 08:35 PM
0

Graduating is when you stop cold approaching and move on the choosing signals/IOIs. You learn the concepts of passive attraction/indirect game in the form of pre-selection/social proof. Social circle game is a good introduction to pre selection and social proof but ultimately it only scratches the surface because you're basically cosplaying a high value guy when you should be working towards actually being that guy. The genesis of passive attraction it is basically this: Think to yourself does a…
/r/seduction01/08/20 04:26 AM
1

I was genuinely bored and unimpressed because I was juggling so many that I had that luxury. Its akin to eating your favorite food everyday, it loses it novelty quickly.
/r/seduction31/07/20 12:56 PM
1

I'm not sure what you're asking. If you're asking would I go back to cold approach in certain situations only when a woman throws out choosing signals/IOIs because I understand that's her method of approaching me. If you're asking about my preffered hunting areas, it varied from clubs, grocery stores, coffee shops, bookstores and social events.
/r/seduction31/07/20 12:45 PM
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The thing is you should be graduating and expanding your tool set beyond cold approaching. For me it's a matter of time management and efficiency. When I was still using cold approach as my primary I'd close after about 1 hr in the set. When I stopped approaching and let my pre selection/social proof do all the work my closes went to about 10 minutes and I didn't even need to open the girls and actually had to turn some away. No way I'd be going back to cold approaching after figuring that out.
/r/seduction31/07/20 02:56 AM
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I previously had to get over trying to be too strategic and in my head when I started trying to plan a perfect strategy while talking to girls rather than just living and reacting in the moment. This is IMO the main problem most guys have. When we start it's fine to use scripts or notes to refer to but you have to get used to not needing them because you will be slow and ponderous. Dont think just do. Over time your instincts will improve. Allow yourself to fuck up. Too many dudes are afraid of …
/r/seduction30/07/20 06:29 PM
2

I simply grew my social proof else where using the networks gained from the club scene. COVID simply prevents me from networking presently. The thing with social proof is you never really lose it unless you suddenly lose your swagger or become a hermit. You generally like the people you hang around with that improve your social proof.
/r/seduction30/07/20 06:18 PM
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I dont because that's what she expects me to do and a 10/10 supermodel doesnt impress me as it once did. If you had asked me this 2 years ago then sure I'd talk to her and raise her attraction but now I wouldnt because I dont want to invest the time. I get it sounds pointless but this is basically how I came to it. Back in my early days I'd do the whole conventional cold approaching and raising the girl's attraction level, the usual. Over time I noticed guys around me who didnt need to work as h…
/r/seduction30/07/20 04:58 PM
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Its basically your ability to quickly improvise on the spot. For example you talk to a girl and shes not responding well, you instantly catch it and switch things up until she responds well. That's basically calibration. Most guys who are just starting out usually have a script or notes to go off of and when a girl does something they dont expect they just sit there confused at how to respond because they lack calibration skills. Its not something you learn from a video or book. You gain it from…
/r/seduction30/07/20 02:41 PM
3

When you're in abundance you genuinely dont care. Back in my early days I'd of agreed with you that I'm leaving pussy on the table but presently its meh because theres always another woman around in my mind. My time working the club scene removed the hunger as there wasnt any shortage of women around.
/r/seduction30/07/20 02:01 PM
2

As I said "I dont approach girls unless they serve themselves on a platter". So yes I approach girls that give choosing signals and IOIs because that's generally how females approach us.
/r/seduction30/07/20 01:51 PM
1

I rather you dont have to come up with any lines or waste any time approaching a girl. I for example just let my pre selection and social proof do all the work for me. I never approach women unless they serve themselves on a platter. IMO every guy should be working towards that. Do your cold approaches but understand you need to graduate at some point.
/r/seduction30/07/20 01:46 PM
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The problem is its akin to riding a bike with the training wheels still attached. You're only scratching the surface of what you're capable of. Another is I see too many guys that think cold approach is the be all end all and get upset when their returns arent that high when cold approaching wasnt meant for that in the first place. Everybody starts with cold approaching but you need to graduate at some point.
/r/seduction30/07/20 01:30 PM
2

Developing a reputation isnt necessarily a bad thing if you dont mind playing with it. I purposely developed a reputation of being sketchy and roguish when I used to work the club scene and it would draw girls in to see what the fuss was about. It's not for everyone but it can be useful
/r/seduction30/07/20 01:23 PM
7

Everything after you graduate from cold approaching.
/r/seduction30/07/20 01:16 PM
1

You can read as books and studies as you like but ultimately you will learn everything in the field. You cant pause and reference a study while you're actually talking to a girl. The things about "naturals" in my experience are that they're not the best teachers. They're good for teaching broad concepts and mechanics but they have this bad habit of assuming their method will work for you when that's not really the case. You just end up parroting them and doing a pretty poor impression.
/r/seduction30/07/20 03:37 AM
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The truth is you likely will only get a 3% return and that's fine because it's just a warm up exercise. The problem is many guys mistaken cold approaching as a legit strategy when it's not so get disheartened and drop off. You need to do it as it builds your foundation but understand the purpose of it and set your expectations properly
/r/seduction30/07/20 03:22 AM
1

Yes but to AMS he doesnt mind as hes in abundance. He understands his audience doesnt have this luxury so he's willing to teach the conventional method. He always stresses that long term you should aspire to be a man on your mission and let the women come to you. It's why he will preface some of his videos with "this is for my advanced guys".
/r/askTRP30/07/20 03:18 AM
0

By not trying to. The second time I went back to college I really just wanted to get it over with and came off as arrogant and suddenly girls would just talk to me or linger around me waiting on me to interact with them. Also helped that we had many debates where I'd come off as bored and haughty. I later realized because I actually bored and annoyed to be there I gave off this confident asshole vibe that girls really liked. Also I didnt feed them any attention because I was focused on finishing…
/r/seduction30/07/20 03:13 AM
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I wish more people were honest about it but cold approaching 100-300 women is more of a warm up exercise rather than an actual good strategy. You do it because: gets rid of your approach anxiety thickens your skin to rejection allows you to work on calibration Any dates you get are just a side bonus.
/r/seduction30/07/20 03:03 AM
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Keep in mind AMS meant that video for guys just starting out. He himself wouldnt waste his time with a low interest woman but he understands his audience has alot of guys just starting on the path so will still want to do some chasing. You should have enough women in your rotation to not have to tolerate a low interest woman.
/r/askTRP30/07/20 02:59 AM
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By the time I found someone who would take me I tried hard to be the best I could because I knew if they left I'd be back on my own for another 2 years. I Right here, you care too much and likely over invest. If you want a healthy relationship you have to be willing to blow it up at anytime and be cool with it. You're likely a decent dude who's trying way too hard and as a result come off as gullible, weak and no sense of boundaries. You're not going to have good relationships if you overvalue t…
/r/seduction28/07/20 05:43 AM
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12 to be exact
/r/seduction28/07/20 05:06 AM
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She just hit her 20s, I'm in my 30s
/r/seduction28/07/20 05:00 AM
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End of the year will be year 2
/r/seduction28/07/20 04:49 AM
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She changed topics first after our business was concluded. The usual ask me questions about myself to make small talk and research. My senses were tingling and I threw a few flirts out and she responded well. Then made the pitch and she agreed to go out and the rest is history.
/r/seduction28/07/20 04:40 AM
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That'd be unsportsmanlike. I let him try to talk to her while I enjoy my cut. When my girl is ready to go/bored she finds me and then I grab her ass and we go.
/r/seduction24/07/20 09:02 PM
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Pimp her out for free drinks/food. People always think my GF and I arent a couple so I'm happy to play the "wingman" to dudes that talk to her.
/r/seduction24/07/20 08:42 PM
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Early days your % wont be good. You dont know shit so you're going to mess up but that's fine because after you're done beating yourself up and crying in a pillow you will know not to do that again. Expect lots of failures and allow yourself those failures because they build up your frame of reference for the next encounters. Key thing for you is to not get discouraged with all the failing and dust yourself off and try again.
/r/seduction24/07/20 02:19 PM
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Should I communicate to her that I'm not ready for commitment, and let her know that she is free also, so that we can move a bit slower? If she asks then yes. Let your actions speak for you but clarify for her when she asks. Or risk being with her - as I don't want to lose a great girl with long-term potential due to fear, and replace her with more meaningless hook-ups. Eventually you will have to commit, let her go or downgrade your relationship. If a girl wants commitment shes not going to han…
/r/seduction24/07/20 02:14 PM
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Yep, cant gauge reactions in real time and you miss the physical element needed. IRL always.
/r/seduction24/07/20 04:46 AM
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Honestly I've just been telling dudes to keep your powder dry and write this year off. Because presently you're just left with: -Drawing on dates from your social circle which even in the best case scenario will depend greatly on your quarantine situation. -online dating, useless as you've noticed Presently I'd suggest you do what you've been doing: working on yourself and asking questions. Cant do much field testing given present conditions but you can start to develop a game plan and work on c…
/r/seduction24/07/20 04:43 AM
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"You should" Then strike up conversation. Mostly though it's just meh on my end because the novelty of getting compliments has worn out for me. You shouldnt be excited or be happy you got one though. Just play it off as it's nothing special. If you get excited you basically give away the fact you dont get them often and that doesnt paint you in the best light
/r/seduction24/07/20 04:33 AM
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In the short term you can fake it and trick yourself into it but you should aspire to actually have it at some point. Once you actually start to get some some success (you dont even need that many) you wont need to cosplay anymore and it will natural to you
/r/seduction24/07/20 03:53 AM
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If I may then ask, what are they being taught these days? I've inferred that whatever is being "commonly taught", traits like humility and open-mindedness (a willingness to decide for oneself, as opposed to group-think based entirely on their social circle) are not among them. Not humility or open mindlessness. The only thing being taught is the whole "you can have it all". Basically you can have your cake, eat it too and theres no consequences. Add in the illusion of infinite choice via online …
/r/seduction20/07/20 11:51 AM
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The dating ‘marketplace’ is full of men who want sex, and a lower number of women who want sex and who tend to think 90% of said men are unattractive Somewhat correct, supply of dick is high, demand is low. It's not that theres less women who want sex, it's that women have the luxury to be more picky because the supply of guys is high and the demand is low. You need to have very high value or some kind of vigorous strategy. Yep You can’t just walk around asking women if they want to have sex — t…
/r/seduction13/07/20 05:29 AM
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To the point it was unsatisfying yes. No shortage of ass when you're a club promoter.
/r/seduction10/07/20 02:46 AM
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How do you end up with these younger women? Like any other woman, be at the right place right time Do you approach or do they? In my case she started the conversation first but I've done both. Also, do you feel like you're less interested in a more serious relationship with a younger woman? Actually more interested. Younger women arent typically in such a rush and they arent jaded yet. In a way you appriecate them more.
/r/seduction08/07/20 02:29 PM
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Abundance mindset is basically you have so many options you can take it or leave it when it comes to women. Outward appearance, if you're in abundance you never chase women or go out of your way for them because theres some other girl around the corner. You're in an abundance mindset OP. You can take it or leave with the girls you do like. If you werent youd be stressing over how to win her over and asking around.
/r/seduction08/07/20 02:20 PM
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Define social wits, then. I don't need a novel, but just what the concept means to you. Did you have to learn or was it more inherent, for you? Knowing when a girl is not feeling you and feeling you without asking her. I'm an extrovert so I already had an understanding of social cues but women confused me until I figured them out. But too many flaws means too few chances, does it not? High risk for embarrasment and loss of self-esteem if you actually fight for it. Flaws limit your dating pool bu…
/r/seduction08/07/20 02:01 PM
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Social competence is mandatory to be good at this game. Allow yourself room for error and take it at your own pace.
/r/seduction08/07/20 03:29 AM
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Understand your demo mate. Long term they should aspire to what your saying but they're not ready yet.
/r/seduction08/07/20 03:26 AM
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Alot easier. I know more shit in my 30s than I did in my 20s. Keep in mind though if you didnt spend your 20s fucking up with women your 30s wont be much different. Theres a 12 year age difference between my GF and I and yes it was an issue in the beginning and people make a fuss over it but meh.
/r/seduction08/07/20 03:05 AM
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I work with lawyers and they tend to be quite confident and full of themselves, traits that our interns find quite attractive. The only difference between a lawyer and a club promoter is their jobs give them different access levels to women and their vibe is different When girls approach us they dont do it the same way we do it. For example last week I was at the grocery store and there was a girl there who was eye fucking me and just happened to linger in the same aisle as me. This is her way o…
/r/seduction07/07/20 08:59 PM
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You shouldn't be chasing women? You should work on your career and hobbies and they will magically come without any chasing, right? They do actually because they want to be part of your world. I didnt get it either at the time but when I used work as a club promoter I didnt need to do anything to get girls as I had enough social proof and pre selection they'd just give me IOIs and make it really easy. Prior to this I was day/night gaming and thought that was the only way to get girls. You should…
/r/seduction07/07/20 08:29 PM
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Can read as much as you like but the best way to learn is to go into the field. Cant tell a girl to wait while you reference a book you read or video you watched.
/r/seduction07/07/20 07:47 PM
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Dont shit where you eat unless you dont mind leaving that job. Outside of the workplace it's fine as long as your management skills are fine. When I worked as a club promoter I was balancing out multiple girls that were regulars who all knew about the other and the novelty ran out fast.
/r/seduction07/07/20 07:46 PM
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That girl you hooked up with, she will be very useful if you wish to create some social proof and pre selection. Notice how she advertised to the girl you actually want? That's basically how pre-selection works on the base level but the audience was incorrect because your friend doesnt like you like that. Girls talk, you want them to as long as its flattering to you.
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:46 PM
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Oh yeah this is the main problem guys are having but I just tell everyone to keep your powder dry until stuff reopens, write this year off and plan for next.
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:34 PM
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That being said.. I wanted to know how you guys handle such situations. I like it cuz she knows how I feel so there's no space for me to ruin it by sharing my thoughts about her, but it's also a bit of a stick to the ribs whenever I'm with her, cuz we are really open with each other. I dont get in those situations anymore because I know better. I still befriend women but I do so with the understanding shes no longer a romance option and strictly a friend. Would you guys see this is having an att…
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:31 PM
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You start by just talking to people and allowing yourself to fail. You need to get over the approach anxiety and be calm around people esp attractive women. Youre basically desensitizing yourself. Dont expect results from just approaching women on the street/store/etc. It's more of a warm up exercise to build up the desensitizing process and remove your approach anxiety. Once you're desensitized and fine around people you can start to pick up on social cues and nonverbals because you're no longe…
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:07 PM
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Yes, you have to to build your foundation. Eventually when you have it down tight you "graduate" to what Currie is doing. Currie is the senior class, you cant skip freshmen sophomore and junior class. This subreddit is mostly freshmen who dont even know where to start and sophomores who need a second option on what they're doing. For example when I started to learn I did the usual cold approach, PUA workshops. Then realized the importance of social proof and pre-selection and now I dont chase an…
/r/seduction07/07/20 05:47 PM
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Hes not wrong but this is like taking a class without any of the prerequisites. Ultimately the best game is no game but in order to reach that you need to do all the basic time wasting exercises to get there. Currie is the end goal, waste as little time as possible to get what you want. Does it work, fuck yes as I do something similar but you need to have a thick skin and cool head to deal with the counter as most girls arent used to such bluntness and will verbally fight you and you have to cal…
/r/seduction07/07/20 04:44 PM
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More active approach would be just to actually talk with him. At my local grocery one the girls on the cheese section likes me and always makes small talk with me. Only reason I havent taken her up on it is I have a GF. Another is the usual stare at him for a few seconds and look away. However some guys dont get this is an invitation or unsure. Oh or the classic just stand around him. One of the interns likes me and just hovers near me hoping I'll talk to her. However you may not be able to do t…
/r/seduction07/07/20 04:21 PM
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Honestly just send a pic with caption. Dont care what the caption is. When I was still dating my GF she'd just send a selfie or biting lip with caption. Prior to that I never got excited to get a after sex text because it was kinda dry and no visuals.
/r/seduction07/07/20 04:13 PM
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It's completely unsatisfying and empty. You basically think to yourself "that was it? I wasted my time for that?" However its important you get it out of your system cause you realize you shouldnt be chasing women in the first place.
/r/seduction07/07/20 04:06 PM
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I hope this is just practice for you and nothing serious. As to what shes looking for, who knows and frankly you shouldnt ask. You're always better off to let the girl take it at her own pace. Meanwhile you should be seeing other women while she figures that out. If you actually start to ask her she will feel pressured by you and tense up. Not a good way to go and when she breaks up later she will say you rushed her. Just go with the flow and see other women in the event this one isnt fruitful.
/r/seduction07/07/20 04:01 PM
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Paragraphs....please format it better, difficult to read otherwise. I mostly agree but I dont think you understand that most people on this subreddit are looking for short term solutions and that's fine. Long term yes you're completely correct but for many to reach those long term goals they need to accomplish their short term ones first. You cant get someone to focus on what you're stressing if they're starving. In this case, relationships or companionship. You for example understand that there…
/r/seduction07/07/20 03:53 PM
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You develop other skills and generally be pleasant to hang around. You have to be more than your physical looks. Dealt with plenty of women who had nothing past their looks. Like for example one of the reasons my SO is my SO is she gets my "rhythm". She knows when I just want to sit together in silence, when the time is right to tell her story of the day, doesnt get upset when I want to be by myself, etc etc. See thing is I know she doesnt like to do that but respects me enough to do it anyways …
/r/seduction07/07/20 05:31 AM
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It was the best only in that it was the most elaborate and clever, didn't work but the effort was memorable to me. Keep in mind I contrasted it with my own GF's approach which wasnt ad elaborate. Thus dont overthink it.
/r/seduction07/07/20 05:01 AM
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Look good and make it easy to interact with you. We only care about your non surface things until much later when we're considering you as GF material. Men fall in love through their eyes, women through their ears as they say.
/r/seduction07/07/20 05:00 AM
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Literally just talk to the guy. You really dont need any skill besides besides looking alright and being approachable. If you really want to overachieve and have time, figure out stuff the dude likes and just talk to him about it. Best approach I've experienced was this girl who was the friend of a friend who did her research about everything I liked without me knowing and we had great banter. While doing this she shot her shot and while I liked talking to her she didnt do anything for me physic…
/r/seduction06/07/20 05:32 PM
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You shouldnt steal a girl so close to your social circle. I've been the "other dude" but I had the good sense to do it far from my circle so the exit was easy. The boyfriend will flip out, always have to plan for that
/r/seduction06/07/20 05:14 PM
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if you are able to "get" this type of chick, probably you're a guy with relatively "high status" because these women are themselves "high status" due to their looks, high-maintenance, and their own prissy attitude (often, but not always.) Hence, my point about symmetry. I always assume all women think they're high status. I actually downplay my status and use it more indirectly. I was saying if you're able to pull this off, good for you, but I'm envious and bitter. Because you're playing a game …
/r/seduction05/07/20 12:45 PM
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I've read many times on this sub that texting should be used only for logistics but what is the reasoning behind it? Because it lacks the physical element, you cant probe and break the touch barrier which is important. Also texting gives her time to consider her answers when IRL she has to response right away. More importantly though most guys dont know when to stop texting and just talk the girl out of dating him.
/r/askTRP03/07/20 01:03 PM
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Well then do you have to be 'symmetrical' to get these chicks? I have a system yes but it has to be flexible and open to adjustments on the fly. Do you also compete ruthlessly Yes, competition has degrees of ruthlessness. It's near impossible to avoid. I simply try to make it as quick as possible. do you show-off with your presentation Less is more. I learned early the best way to get something is to not seek it. do you exclude "low value" human beings, and pretend you are elitist with 'great cr…
/r/seduction02/07/20 10:59 AM
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Of course they're comfortable
/r/seduction30/06/20 05:54 PM
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If she feels like she's the leader the LTR isnt going to last that long anyways because she will resent it and drop him for the first guy that she feels like she can hang back and relinquish control over to him. Only way to "deal with it" is to lead. If she doesnt want to relinquish control you take your ball and go home. Or you do what Patrice O'Neal did and verbally dominate her to tire her out so it isnt even an option for her.
/r/askTRP30/06/20 05:15 PM
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You should go to the beach to actually enjoy the beach not looking for women. You will be less thristy in the event the opportunity presents itself. Anytime I got some ass at the beach it was usually while waiting for drinks or someone would interrupt my painting. Shouldnt be cold approaching at a beach because its predictable and girls expect it.
/r/seduction30/06/20 04:16 PM
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1) how do guys feel about girls asking what the relationship is? I never bring up the relationship and let the girl take that at her own pace because I understand it takes her longer to like me. Its better if its your idea and you dont feel rushed into it. 2) we’ve been sending each other explicit pictures and he talks as if we’ll be in some relationship in the next 3 months — should i take this seriously or is this not indicative of being exclusive in general? You're both just talking and filli…
/r/seduction30/06/20 04:03 PM
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Prefer team sports simply because I generally enjoy playing them more. Even in individual sports theres a degree of teamwork. Just no avoiding it and it's a good exercise in dealing with others and the extra internal competition.
/r/askTRP30/06/20 03:55 PM
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But the values they represent--brutal competition, "showing off," social exclusion and elitism--that's completely opposite to the way I do things. I find it disturbing, in fact. Very materialist and shallow really. I operate under the existing rules not what I'd like them to be. You're not wrong but for me I just shrug. Because if they wear yoga pants, there's a good chance the chick is a Yuppie. They're the extreme high achievers who need to be perfect in everything, they work out constantly an…
/r/seduction30/06/20 05:22 AM
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Dont bother, it's not a good habit to rely too much on notes or books. The girl isnt going to sit there and wait on you to cross reference that book or line you read. If you rely too much on notes you will be very ponderous and slow witted. If you're just starting use the training wheels but learn to just wing it and adjust on the fly. Ulitmately you should work towards just doing everything instinctively and not nee notes.
/r/seduction30/06/20 04:07 AM
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Right here^ gotta give the medicine straight
/r/seduction30/06/20 01:36 AM
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I find a girl I like, get the courage to talk to her, and then the "oh I have a bf" line always comes out You realize that "I have a BF" is a common way to let you down easily yes? Most guys stop right away when they hear this so girls will often use this as it avoids any awkwardness on her end. Typically you challenge this with "oh how long you been together?" or what his name. If she answers right away then yes move along but if she doesnt ahe only said it to get rid of you. Your standards are…
/r/seduction30/06/20 01:34 AM
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I have a hodgepodge "dating" advice service I do as a hobby. My career would get me blacklisted if I openly practiced so it's just whoever decides to DM me.
/r/seduction29/06/20 04:18 PM
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The thing is besides PUAs leaving out details they do some good work. I always encourage dudes to watch videos and free seminars but always to never buy the products. I've lost count of how many guys DM me with "what do you think of this program?"
/r/seduction29/06/20 03:28 PM
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because that’s exactly how I feel when I guy wants me to act dominate, as I’m naturally submissive and shy. This is something most people dont understand. We're both socialized differently so we react werid when we operate outside them. For example I find it very off putting to be around masculine women because it's like dating myself. It feels more like a competition vs a relationship. I always feel out of place when I have to change roles, but this time, I find it exciting to plan and have som…
/r/seduction29/06/20 03:23 PM
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Same way you get over attractive girls you gotta desensitize yourself. In your case you just have to learn to flip a switch in your head when you're around Latina looking women. For example there was a period where I wouldnt mess with Asian girls cause of an ex. It did a similar thing as you and I got through it by reminding myself this girl isnt her and to get over myself. I'd basically mentally punch myself when the resentment naturally bubbled up. Then I was good to go. Over time you will dev…
/r/seduction29/06/20 03:13 PM
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No risk no reward. But yes going with the flow is best.
/r/seduction29/06/20 02:51 PM
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Yeah the main issue is that when dudes figure this game out we just horde all the good shit to ourselves. Gotta teach these young dudes coming up.
/r/seduction29/06/20 02:47 PM
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You just own it. Since you're worrying about I'm guessing it affects the vibe you put out and people feel it. You will be overlooked if we're going off first impressions, it is what it is. You just have to consider that will happen and work around it. You maybe basic looking but as long as your word game is tight you're good to go. I'm clean shaved too but I have long hair with shaved sides like I'm out of a cyberpunk world. It does draw attention but I'm still an average slim Asian dude that st…
/r/seduction29/06/20 02:05 PM
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Theres no incentive for PUAs or related services to admit this and I dont blame them but it does a disservice because some guys put all their hopes in cold approach. I dont even approach anymore, I just put myself in places girls are and they throw me those IOIs and make it really easy. However I couldnt get without the foundation cold approach gave me.
/r/seduction29/06/20 01:54 PM
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You need the rejections because it gives you a frame of reference of what not to do. Not so much at work though if you value your job.
/r/seduction29/06/20 01:49 PM
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Honestly I generally find it goofy when girls hit on me because it's so bad but I have to remind myself you dont need to talk me into sleeping with you like I do. I appriecate it but then it loses its novelty really quick. For example I'd lost track at some of the goofy conversation topics like one girl commented on my plastic water bottle and how I had excellent taste for choosing that particular brand and other small talk. She already had me with her yoga pants.
/r/seduction29/06/20 01:48 PM
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Keep in mind cold approach is more of an exercise tool vs actually being a viable strategy. Good for getting over approach anxiety and interacting with women but dont expect it to get you much results. In the few times it does treat it as the exception rather than the rule. In your current situation I'd work on reading nonverbals and backhanded compliments. Keep doing what you're doing but take notes. Also dont get discouraged because no BS you likely wont get many dates from cold approaching bu…
/r/seduction29/06/20 01:37 PM
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It's more of a networking thing. In retrospect I didnt really learn much from seminars because the coach's style worked for him but wasn't natural to me. This became an issue later as I was just parroting him and couldnt go "off script" when needed. The best thing I got from the seminars was the other dudes in there because they're keep you going and you could bounce ideas off each other. Long after the seminars I'm still buddies with these guys and we constantly share notes. Ultimately I learne…
/r/seduction29/06/20 01:28 PM
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All on her, could be anything from shes recently out of a relationship, she knows you're not sticking around, etc etc. Who knows, you don't seem to of talked her out of fucking you which is all that matters. Something happened on her end, who knows what it is. Let her sort it out and go about your day.
/r/askTRP25/06/20 03:30 PM
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I do just fine, never been better
/r/seduction21/06/20 10:48 AM
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No worries mate, you were passionate
/r/seduction21/06/20 12:07 AM
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This ^
/r/seduction20/06/20 10:08 PM
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Look, you can be salty about your situation and say online dating is stupid, or you can accept that you are not good at it and start improving. Did you miss the irony that you're being salty I dislike your preferred method and even said why? Do note I didnt imply anyone is lesser than for using online dating as you are implying to those you opt out of it. As I said to others, use what works for you in your situation. I've already explained why I dont do online dating, if that makes me lesser and…
/r/seduction20/06/20 08:56 PM
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Notice how no one else needed a definition. Keeping your powder dry means to hang back and prepare for an opening to present itself. In the context of OP, it means to wait till the lockdown is over in his area.
/r/seduction20/06/20 07:59 PM
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That's not a game plan. That's like me telling you to just lose weight, its half assed. I understand the strategy of buying the golden retriever but clueless guys just starting out wont understand. For example a golden retriever is a useful prop because it shows women you care and gives you something to talk about and get her attention. We call this concept peacocking. See what I'm saying. We discussing strategy here, why buy a golden retriever, explain that.
/r/seduction20/06/20 07:25 PM
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This doesnt help the poor bastards doing online dating. Tell them how to take pictures, write a good profile, stuff like that. Dumb luck helps no one, they need a game plan.
/r/seduction20/06/20 07:13 PM
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If it works for you do it, just share with the rest of the class
/r/seduction20/06/20 07:07 PM
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Oh I'm always taking applications. Cant get lazy
/r/seduction20/06/20 05:11 PM
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If it were easy it wouldnt be such a common topic.
/r/seduction20/06/20 04:55 PM
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I have to ask, are you female? Because no dude would say what you're saying with a straight face unless he was married or didnt know better Online dating is a buyer's market. Even if the supply of women went up the demand remains the same. Women arent interested in quantity but rather quality. Boosting the supply of males just allows woman even more options which is bad for males. Thus it's best to just opt out and meet women IRL.
/r/seduction20/06/20 04:28 PM
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Harder because as the average guy you're already starting behind with online dating. Naturally with patience you can make the difference but I rather start the game at 0-0 and not 0-20. It's a matter of working smarter and quicker not harder.
/r/seduction20/06/20 04:15 PM
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I already have a GF
/r/seduction20/06/20 03:57 PM
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The supply of guys also expands and there was already a oversupply of guys online in the first place which is one of the disadvantages of online dating as a guy.
/r/seduction20/06/20 03:41 PM
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Online is more time consuming compared to IRL. My philosophy is to get ass with as little time wastage. I have no patience for online dating when I have access to women IRL. Also statistically I'm bottom of the barrel (asian male) so I operate better IRL. Play where you're strong, dont operate where you arent. Also I'd happily take the bet most guys find better luck IRL than online.
/r/seduction20/06/20 02:41 PM
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No because you set the bar way too high and feed her ego. To you it costs nothing but thats not how she will see it. Take a friend and enjoy it.
/r/seduction20/06/20 02:25 PM
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Exceptions dont remove the rule. If it works for you do it but I doubt that would the majority opinion.
/r/seduction20/06/20 02:17 PM
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Keep your powder dry until everyone is comfortable going out again. Literally the only play right now given the circumstances. The alternative is online and we know how effective that is.
/r/seduction20/06/20 12:48 PM
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No because the girl you're using dread on has to see the other girls you're around just as if not more attractive than her.
/r/askTRP19/06/20 08:15 PM
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Looks only like you cut the line, it doesnt get you across the finish line. It's good to have if you have it, if you dont you have it, learn other skills to make up for it. As how to deal with rejection, It sucks but the more you get rejected the thicker your skin will get and the better off you will be. With each failure you will learn each time what not to do for the next one. The problem is many guys dont stick to it and leave after a few rejections. You need the suffering that comes with rej…
/r/seduction19/06/20 07:57 PM
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You don't go around expecting and seeking heartbreak. You just naturally fuck up with trial and error. Just get out and get more field experience, you will naturally have fuck ups and develop a frame of reference and already have the RP knowledge to understand why you fucked up in the first place.
/r/askTRP15/06/20 03:04 AM
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Freely admit I've lost more than I've won and likely won't make up the difference. The rejections will give you a frame of reference of what not to do and what works. It sucks yes but if you endure it and learn from it instead of feeling bad you will be better off. Key is to be ok with failure and take a set back and learn from it. Most guys end up wallowing in their failures and want to scapegoat when its really all their own fault and they just need to work on themselves. Eventually you will g…
/r/askTRP14/06/20 05:42 PM
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1) write a list of traits youd like in a guy 2) cut that list in half 3) figure out where that guy hangs out 4) go to that place and mingle As for approach, you can do the usual make yourself available and hope someone approaches or be proactive and start a conversation by asking something. Doesnt matter what you ask the guy about, if he finds you attractive he wont care what comes out of your mouth. If he has any sense he will understand that you're making the approach and to go with it. I've h…
/r/seduction12/06/20 04:58 PM
1

Doesnt matter, her actions tell you what you need to know. If a girl has high enough interest she makes it really easy to meet or offers alternatives.
/r/seduction12/06/20 01:57 AM
1

Never listen to what she says, watch what she does. That will tell you everything.
/r/seduction12/06/20 01:48 AM
1

She liked the attention and is cashing out. She didnt ask you on a date, she fed you enough attention along with the idea of hanging out to keep you around. Now that you're ready to take her up on the offer she knows it's time to cash out. Best case scenario she had some interest but got better offers during the two months. Either way move it along, never be text buddies with girls you like. Always talk to them IRL.
/r/seduction12/06/20 01:41 AM
10

That feeling of indifference you feel towards girls you arent attracted to? You need to have that with girls you actually are attracted to. To get there you need to used to being around attractive women and it will naturally desensitize you. In order to do that you have to gain more experience and the thing is that's the "scary" part for most guys because it involves alot of trial and error. Most guys drop out through that process but if you survive it you will be better off.
/r/seduction10/06/20 03:59 PM
3

Yes you are a clown, it's ok most of us were there at some point. No shes no attracted to you. Also dont say you dont care, you do because you wouldnt be asking us. It's fine, you're just starting out
/r/askTRP08/06/20 06:16 PM
1

As long as you have income coming in. However even though I did it I wouldnt do it again because there were unexpected expenses in that timeframe I was laying the groundwork my own business. I'd recommend you suck it up a little bit more, start shopping around for another job before you exit. I wouldnt quit without a plan, dont get me wrong it motivated me alot more cause I didnt think that far but the stress wasnt worth it.
/r/askTRP07/06/20 11:17 PM
1

Honestly you fail enough times it will be burned in your head to the point you know instantly when you're fucking up. It's all calibration but in order to do that you need a frame of reference and to get that you need the fuck ups.
/r/askTRP07/06/20 11:10 PM
9

I did but I had enough savings to live off of for a year before I did it. 3 months is just bad, not much room for error esp in this economy
/r/askTRP07/06/20 11:06 PM
-3

It does but ultimately as long as it works it frankly doesnt matter. As to why RP seems to hate liberals it's mainly because many of us were liberals and feel resentment towards them because we feel lied to.
/r/askTRP04/06/20 03:44 PM
1

Get a index fund. It's not sexy and is slow but reliable
/r/askTRP03/06/20 09:39 PM
1

Best to get it over with quick so you dont waste time.
/r/seduction03/06/20 05:23 PM
1

Translation: I have another guy I'm interested in and dont want you to give your hopes up. Fair warning upfront.
/r/seduction03/06/20 05:21 PM
9

You lost your job and likely put out weak vibes and became a pale version of yourself compared to when she met you. It's much like if you met your woman and she was slim but got fat. Youre naturally going to lose attraction because she let herself go. Same principle on the other side. Familiarity breeds contempt. You saw each other too often and it gives her time to nitpick. You didnt help much yourself let's be honest. As for why a girl would cheat on a younger dude, its usually because your fu…
/r/askTRP03/06/20 04:34 PM
2

Text game is a poor use of time and advantageous to women not you. You already know IRL your chances are better so stop texting her. Right now you're negotiating with terrorists. Stop trying to keep her interest up because it is needy. Shes either down or not, take the L.
/r/askTRP03/06/20 12:28 PM
2

Only after telling her what youd like your relationship. She'll say no, let's be friends. You say no and leave. If she had any interest she'll reach out and then you can restart. But yes write this one off
/r/seduction03/06/20 12:22 PM
1

Take the L. Moment a woman calls you bro you're in the friendzone. Only way to fix this is let her know you're interested romantically and you cant do this. Then leave and assume you arent gonna hear from her again. If she pops back up, congrats now you can renegotiate your relationship and start over.
/r/seduction03/06/20 12:17 PM
6

Texting is for logistics nothing more. Text if texted but you should have other things going on that prevents you from feeling the need to text her first. If you insist though give her 1 text or every 3 she gives. I say you never text outside of logistics or replying to her but you're going to do it anyways.
/r/askTRP03/06/20 11:58 AM
2

That's your ego speaking. Strangle it. Take the L and move along. I know it hurts the ego but that's why you leave the door open.
/r/askTRP03/06/20 03:48 AM
3

Write this one off. Leave the door open but assume its done.
/r/askTRP03/06/20 03:39 AM
7

Men dont redpill men, women do. At best you can talk about topics with a RP lense and the he'll come back to you and ask you what you meant when hes ready. Basically what happened with me. Rejected a coworker's ideas and said he was full of shit, got fucked and came back years later and he said welcome back.
/r/askTRP03/06/20 01:08 AM
2

Looks only let you cut the line, they dont get you across the finish line, that's what game is for. The only difference you will notice is girls will allow you a few more mistakes. Your charmisa is still the thing that will close the deal not the muscles. Theres better ways to improve your rate of returns then taking steroids.
/r/seduction03/06/20 12:58 AM
2

Sometimes one has to suffer before they realize something. Ultimately you're going to do what you're going to do, just make sure you remember this conversation when you're done beating your head against a wall.
/r/seduction01/06/20 09:30 PM
1

You came off as really butt hurt and immature not jerk. Even if the girl is rude and dismissive you dont mirror that behaviour as you'll be in your feminine. It wasnt mean OP, you were kinda being a bitch but that's ok we all been there. I've been there. The problem with finding the sweet spot is you have to go to the deep end and look over the abyss so you have a frame of reference of how far you're willing to go. You want to just dip your toe in the water. It wont work. You obviously see being…
/r/seduction01/06/20 05:42 PM
3

You dont have to be but it doesnt hurt. When I was a club promoter I didnt have trouble getting those kind of girls because I had social proof and pre selection. Bare in mind I'm a 5'8 slim androgynous looking asian dude. Statistics do not favor me. The thing with those kind of women is to get them you cant be trying to get them. I actually tried to work instead of drinking and doing blow so didnt have time to talk to guests and it made my time very valuable. Thus girls would always throw out IO…
/r/askTRP01/06/20 05:15 PM
1

Outside of talking to people and building your social circle focusing on your goals and being distant actually builds it too because your time seems valuable. Talking with everyone is good early but you can easily come off as approval seeking. The loudest guy in the room is typically the most try hard. When I worked as a club promoter I only spoke to people briefly and moved around alot because my work kinda forced me to. Thus my time seemed valuable and I was "mysterious" and everyone wanted to…
/r/seduction31/05/20 11:14 PM
1

Yet you still needed a refresher on how nice guys act?
/r/askTRP31/05/20 10:56 PM
1

Puzzling... You should of already gone through that nice guy phase then.
/r/askTRP31/05/20 09:03 PM
6

How young are you? Everyone goes through the nice guy phase at some point of their life. A nice guy just goes with the path of least resistance. He talks to a girl, befriends her and plays that part in hope that she will like him when he shoots his shot. Obviously this doesn't work. As for signs, he gives off friendly vibes like hes just another one of her friends.
/r/askTRP31/05/20 08:22 PM
1

He joins her fan club and hopes
/r/askTRP31/05/20 07:42 PM
-1

Basically yes. Just look at the average dude on the street if you want to see nice guys What a woman does to get a guys attention is basically the same thing a nice guy does. This method works fine for women but not for men because women dont much care for a very agreeable and compliant man.
/r/askTRP31/05/20 07:37 PM
1

I'm 31 and shes 19 Obviously I make more than her. As to how it progressed it's not that complicated I was shopping and spoke to her and we went out. I made calculations based off her personality and background, factored in possible negatives and in the end decided sure she has potential I'll give her commitment.
/r/askTRP31/05/20 05:02 PM
-1

The thing with feminists is they can give away pussy if they want to. Even the most rabid ones could in theory hand it out. Most dudes cannot give away dick. Nice guys are just guys that use the female method in hopes of getting a woman. The nice guy way actually is the woman's way.
/r/askTRP31/05/20 04:57 PM
1

Everyone has to follow their own path. I just value building a family. As to how my partner views it she doesnt like it but hasnt left yet. I told her early I dont believe in marriage and let her decide what she wants to do and shes still around. She has her own money and lives with a roommate. Shes tried to move in with me but I've held off. It's not really a FwB situation because I do genuinely see my partner as a promising mother but I separate my emotional feeling from the reality on the gro…
/r/askTRP31/05/20 04:37 PM
1

You dont need to be married to build a family. My kids dont become bastards just because my partner and I dont have a piece of paper from the government.
/r/askTRP31/05/20 04:10 PM
1

1) not all RP guys live alone and it doesnt get boring because if you're doing it correctly you're focusing on your goals and crossing that next milestone 2) the thing about going RP is you operate under the assumption your friends and family wont be there even if they are. Yes its risky but RP never hid this from you. 3) I have little desire to retire as you grow fat and lazy. I simply live with short and long term plans and a checklist. 4) for me I do intend to build a family
/r/askTRP31/05/20 04:01 PM
0

5 dates is too long. That's alot of time and money wasted. Also it's not a good habit to get into letting a girl waste your time. He got laid yes but gave her 4 dates first. It's a bad return on investment. I simply have a lower tolerance than you.
/r/seduction27/05/20 09:15 PM
2

Her looking up tactics isnt an excuse. You're suppose to be on top of this. She only got away with waiting so long because you allowed her to get away with it. Also dont delude yourself into thinking you have a insider. She knows it's likely your mutual friend will tell you things she says so uses that to save herself the trouble of telling you herself. I'm just saying you started off on the back foot and you seemed like you were about to slip up and start complying to her wishes. Just keep doin…
/r/seduction27/05/20 08:00 PM
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I hope those days were cheap. The 5th date is pretty late for sex, I always recommend guys cut their losses by date 3. At this point you just keep hanging out, have fun and lay pipe until she has the "where is this going?" speech if you want a commitment. As for her complaining, let her complain. Dont bend over and keep doing what you're doing. Never listen to what a girl says, watch what she does. Also keep in mind you messed up somewhere if you had to wait till date 5 for sexy time. Her attrac…
/r/seduction27/05/20 07:40 PM
1

Ultimately it's a numbers game in the early days. You only need 1 to say yes but you have to get over the other 9 that say fuck you or ghost you. I was more than happy with 10% but I knew and saw guys who didnt need to work as hard as me and kept wondering "wtf am I doing?" When I worked in the club I didnt have to do any work and actually turned down women I'd of jumped on before in early days. This is a gradual process but you gotta stick to it. At the end of the road you will realize women ar…
/r/askTRP26/05/20 04:53 PM
1

It's bad in the beginning believe me. The problem most guys have is that they give up after the first couple of rejections and want easy silver bullets to solve everything quickly and PUAs dont help this as their business model is built on short term solutions and most of them dont admit it. 10% sucks I know but in the early days you're be happy with 10% You gotta start somewhere
/r/askTRP26/05/20 04:45 PM
2

No I was a promoter, knew the right people. I'm 5'8.
/r/askTRP26/05/20 04:35 PM
2

I kept a very good record book during my PUA days and obsessed over it. Average day was a 10% success rate, success being defined as a close and fuck. When I started working in the club my success rate improved to the point I didnt have the time to keep track. I hadn't understood at that time the concept of pre-selection and that cold approach was more of a exercise rather than actual method. Understand that the approaches arent the be all end all. It's an exercise to get you accustomed to rejec…
/r/askTRP26/05/20 04:31 PM
2

In field experience as it gives you a frame of reference. Can read as many books or watch as many videos as you like but you will learn more from trial and error in the field. The faster you get over rejection the easier it becomes.
/r/seduction26/05/20 03:33 AM
1

Nothing wrong with faking it till you make it but dont linger there too long as you may start thinking that you dont need to work on your goals and purpose.
/r/askTRP22/05/20 01:05 AM
2

Clever as it was, you could of been doing something more productive such as actually working towards being wealthy. These little exercises are useful in the early phases as you get to cosplay high value but at some point you need to graduate and not need to play pretend. Enjoy it for now but dont rely too much on it. The thing about lying is we often forget which ones we told and what order. That was my problem anyways when I was cosplaying.
/r/askTRP22/05/20 12:54 AM
2

Dirty talk varies from guy to guy. Actions are better. I still remember the first time my partner tried to talk dirty, ruined the whole mood and I burst out laughing. Practice looks, facial expressions with your foreplay that's a good start. Sometimes all you need is a little dance and a hungry face.
/r/seduction21/05/20 12:48 AM
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You dont because youre just going to join her fanclub. Your average girl gets plenty of guys that try to slip into their DMs. You're just be another number. Always meet IRL. If you're in quarantine then you just gotta keep your powder dry till things reopen. Sliding into a girl's DM will not be fruitful.
/r/seduction15/05/20 03:32 PM
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The problem with lying is you have to remember which lies you told. Dont get me wrong lying is a legit short term strategy but IMO if you want to fake pre selection just legit build your roster of girls and dont hide them from each other. The thing is girls will do their research and want to see their competition. If you dont actually have a roster well....now you look like an idiot. Also taken dudes dont really pursue and are distant because they're in theory trying to be faithful. This unavail…
/r/seduction13/05/20 04:47 PM
1

Through life experience. You can fake it to a point so you know what it looks/feels like ala what some PUAs do but it's a pale imitation and just cosplaying If you're expecting some quick fix, tutorial or silver bullet on how to be alpha you're going to be disappointed. Alphas are very common in the military and business, you think they watched a video or read a tutorial on how to be alpha? Think about that.
/r/askTRP13/05/20 03:14 AM
1

Only do it if you normally do it.
/r/seduction12/05/20 03:12 PM
1

You dont need to ghost her, just go into low contact and make sure any contact is done in video as that allows somewhat of a face to face. With snaps or texts just keep the conversation brief and always try to go for video chat. Then once the quarantine is over get her out ASAP.
/r/seduction12/05/20 05:25 AM
1

Cant tease and flirt effectively over video chat as it misses the touch element. It's better than text but not ideal. I've been telling guys on quarantine to just keep their powder dry until stuff reopens. In your current situation you're headed into friend territory. Cut the texting and go into low contact with the video until the stuff reopens in your area.
/r/seduction12/05/20 04:33 AM
0

You never flirt over texts/apps/not in person because it usually always comes off as friendly and not flirty. You always flirt in person because you can incorporate nonverbals and touch. Also you get to see her reaction in real time versus giving her time to think over a text ala the 15 minute delay in your situation. You basically just had lots of friendly chats with her.
/r/seduction12/05/20 04:18 AM
1

Frankly its actually pretty easy to attract other women as a married guy because you already have some social proof and you're pre selected. Bare in mind though it's not as effective if you're trying to not be sneaky. Fucking a married guy behind his wife's back is appealing to some women not so much a guy who's wife is letting him find a side girl. Honestly the best way is to handle this like a threesome and you talk to the girl but let your wife deal with the logistics. You sound like a pretty…
/r/seduction09/05/20 04:11 AM
3

Calm the fuck down mate. You are being insecure about it. If she cheats and fucks the photographer cool she hung herself and you can get a new girl. Same goes for if she monkey branches. Go and let her do her thing and act like it's no big deal. It's better than saying no because frankly it makes you look weak and insecure to her.
/r/askTRP08/05/20 06:26 PM
14

You're just gonna have to learn to get over the RP rage. Understand and accept that it was your fault for getting cucked/friendzoned/used and use them as a frame of reference for the next time.
/r/askTRP08/05/20 02:25 PM
0

You're not going to find good sources because creating sexual tension is very much a make it up in the moment kind of thing. When you talk dirty/create sexual tension the objective is to put her in a sexual mood without being too obvious. Theres no standard canned lines to use because it's very much in the moment. For example I was talking to this girl at an IKEA about wallpaper. Her: yeah I'm thinking of going with red Me: ah BDSM room I like it I describe what it could look like Her: what even…
/r/seduction06/05/20 03:09 PM
1

You have to believe in your own shit and ok with losing the girl or having her say fuck you. You're being cautious which is normal but that partially comes out of fear and you will end up being slow and ponderous which isnt helpful to talking to girls. A good short term solution would be to paint a very unflattering picture of the girl you're talking to. When I was learning I'd always imagine the girl I was talking to on the shitter as it's the least sexy thing possible. This removed any doubt o…
/r/seduction27/04/20 03:09 PM
6

Because they would have goofy openers to talk to me like commenting on my ragged messanger bag or water bottle choice. Bare in mind I was a smug asshole because I didnt want to be there and wanted to get it over with not because I was trying to attract women. If you're being a smug asshole to attract women you're faking it and it wont have the same effect.
/r/seduction23/04/20 05:10 PM
10

When I went back to college I was purely focused on getting it over with as quick as possible and just ignored everyone and everything. My first time in college I just went around chasing ass with poor results and didnt wish to repeat that. I had this law class with alot of student debates and I was always the smug asshole because I knew it threw people off. I didnt understand it at the time but my smugness mixed with my indifference and boredom in class gave me an arrogant vibe and my female cl…
/r/seduction23/04/20 04:41 PM
2

Bars and clubs were always some of the worse places to game unless you worked there. Girls knew and saw you coming a mile away and youd have to waste time dealing with her shit and sticking around for the close. As to will they be a thing, not anytime soon. People arent going back to normal even after the quarantine is over. Theres other places to meet women besides clubs and bars that yield better returns.
/r/seduction23/04/20 04:39 AM
10

WTF.....this is some goofy advice. Never pursue or show your cards upfront. Telling her what's "in your heart" will make her as dry as the sahara.
/r/seduction20/04/20 03:39 PM
5

I'd keep the powder dry until the quarantine is over cause the other alternative is online and that has alot of problems
/r/seduction15/04/20 01:34 PM
79

You get attached cause you're in scarcity. Get abundance and you will stop wanting it so much. If you want to get abundance you gotta get out there and get experience. Yes and that means fucking up and getting rejected. You have to thicken your skin with the fuck ups and they also give you a frame of reference.
/r/seduction14/04/20 06:33 PM
4

Yes because theres no confusion. If you like a girl you cant really be friends with her as you will self edit yourself around her. Also its pretty fucking pathetic and you will just get blueballs.
/r/askTRP14/04/20 03:12 PM
7

Statistically I'm bottom of the barrel (asian male) but then I realised women arent us and figured this shit out. You can read all you want but ultimately you need more in field experience
/r/askTRP14/04/20 03:10 PM
3

Fuck no. They're attractive just not to me.
/r/askTRP14/04/20 02:57 PM
5

They're my friends precisely because I have no interest in fucking them.
/r/askTRP14/04/20 02:49 PM
3

Typically I generally like my female friends and they bring something to the table and they answer back right away...you know like a friend would.
/r/askTRP14/04/20 02:47 PM
10

In that case you're making a bad investment because you're putting more in than you're getting
/r/askTRP14/04/20 02:38 PM
2

Male to male relationships are different than male to female. Male to male is merit based, male to female is more transactional. As for attention and validation, most girls dont mind it as long as it's free and you're giving it away.
/r/askTRP14/04/20 02:36 PM
8

Why else are you giving her attention if not to fuck down the line
/r/askTRP14/04/20 02:30 PM
8

Shes not going to fuck you, all that matters
/r/askTRP14/04/20 02:28 PM
8

Bye, move on. Dont keep people that dont want to be kept.
/r/askTRP14/04/20 02:07 PM
5

If you want some ass then yes it's a bad idea.
/r/askTRP14/04/20 02:05 PM
21

You dont have real estate in the friendzone? That's where alot of my hot female friends came from and I had alot of real estate in the friendzone back in goofy days. As to building your social circle: Figure out who you're looking for Figure out where this person hangs out Go to that place and mingle It's not that complicated
/r/seduction14/04/20 02:03 PM
1

I dont try to spread the ideas purposely but I dont hide it either. We have alot of young interns who of course always want to talk about girls so they get medicine from me under the radar if they ask.
/r/askTRP12/04/20 04:27 PM
14

They're suppose to do that to get you to change
/r/askTRP12/04/20 03:54 PM
12

No. You're doing it correctly
/r/askTRP12/04/20 03:49 PM
1

Befriending a girl upfront just puts you in the friendzone. You have to understand that when a girl meets you the first time she has to put you into either: A. Friend material category B. Dating material category This is mainly a time management tool for her. The first impression you give her sticks. You come off as the friend and you're gonna stay there. You come off as flirty and fun to be around she could see herself going on a date with you. As to girls talking to you first. They're rarely g…
/r/seduction20/03/20 04:42 AM
2

Theres no right time, you just have to do it and make it up as you go. The first couple will suck and you will get discouraged and frustrated but it will thicken your skin to the point a woman can say fuck you and you just dust yourself off and talk to the next one. Your primary objective is to make her feel anything emotional towards you. Doesnt matter what it is, funny, hate, etc. Ultimately women remember you by how you made them feel emotionally. Doesnt never have to be a positive emotion, h…
/r/seduction20/03/20 02:28 AM
1

Better figure it out
/r/seduction19/03/20 12:17 PM
1

Write a list of traits you want in a woman Cut the list in half Figure out where this girl hangs out Go to that place and mingle Never do it online, that path leads only to waste
/r/seduction19/03/20 04:00 AM
2

Typically guys have a specific issue they're facing such as OP. It narrows down the solutions. You're just being greedy.
/r/seduction19/03/20 03:44 AM
2

Post a specific question, it will be answered, not that complicated
/r/seduction19/03/20 03:34 AM
3

Seduction is coming up with tricks to make females attracted to you. Are you sure you're in the right subreddit?
/r/seduction19/03/20 03:01 AM
1

If the path is easy the destination is worthless
/r/seduction19/03/20 02:56 AM
6

Dont worry about technique, theory or werid situations. That will cause you to self edit yourself. When I was learning I would overthink shit and fuck up constantly. Once I said fuck I'm gonna wing it I started to get better results. Yes there were werid situations but I needed that situation to remind me later to not repeat it. You will fuck up, allow yourself to fuck up. Because those fuck ups will remind you later to not repeat them. After you fuck up enough times you start to develop your gu…
/r/seduction18/03/20 02:31 PM
25

Could read as many books and study as many other people lines as you want. However when you're actually in the field you cant pause and hope she waits on you to come up with something clever. Only way to get witty is to practice. It's a very intuition/gut feeling based skill. When I was learning I would just focus on objectives and didnt worry about technique. If she reacted positively I'd just keep doing whatever I was doing, if she didn't response well I changed it up. Trial and error mate, on…
/r/seduction18/03/20 02:09 PM
1

Understand that when a girl meets you for the first time she needs to categorize you quick. Your typical girl meets hundreds of guys that want to fuck them and they need to save time. So when you meet a girl for the first time you make sure you establish your intent as to how this interaction will be. You cannot be friends in the beginning and hope they change their mind later, it doesnt work like that. Where most guys fuck up is they give off the friendly vibes in the beginning because they're …
/r/seduction11/03/20 03:53 AM
2

In situations like this you have to get it over with and make the "sales pitch" and tell her you're interested and see how she reacts. Likely she wont react well but you hold firm, let her know you cant keep being friends because that's not what you want and let her go. When you meet a girl its important you establish the premise of the encounter. You gave off friend vibes so you're firmly there. Only way to get out and change the premise. Thus you make your pitch and leave the ball in her court…
/r/seduction09/03/20 06:11 AM
1

Never listen to what a woman says, watch what she does. Women arent socialized to be blunt and it can be dangerous for them to do so thus they sugarcoat alot of things to avoid conflict. Best believe if a woman likes you she will make the effort and talk you to death.
/r/seduction19/02/20 04:38 PM
4

PUA has its ulititly. I came to RP from the PUA community and I always tell guys learning that game that PUA is the freshman class. It gives you short term solutions and teaches the basics of dealing with women but ultimately you have to graduate. Many of the guys I hung around with in my PUA days are either still hunting, went monk mode or became incels. PUAs are a business at the end of the day. It doesnt really benefit them to teach things outside of the surface level. It only rubs me the wro…
/r/TheRedPill14/02/20 09:11 PM
1

If shes interested she will reach out so no just go about your day.
/r/seduction12/02/20 02:21 PM
3

Take it at your own pace. Dont fake being busy.
/r/askTRP06/02/20 03:45 AM
6

22 eh? 8 good years then Either way your girl already knows she had you last time and she will test you. It's also why I'm saying you will get weak because of past behaviour. You keep dicking her down and mantain your frame and ocasionally feed her when its convenient for you and she will want to know where it's going. Make sure though that you dont give her the impression you're not fucking other women. You gotta always keep her a little insecure as it gives her something to chase.
/r/askTRP06/02/20 03:18 AM
11

Even of you dont want to fuck other girls you need to make it seem like you could drop her at a moments notice. Moment she thinks you value her more she will get lazy. Always keep her a little insecure that her position is shakey. Right now, just let her come over and fuck. Dont overthink it, you're gonna start to slip, make no mistake. You're gonna get a little weak, catch that shit and mantain your frame. Keep fucking her brains out, hang out if you want to, not when she wants to. If you wanna…
/r/askTRP06/02/20 03:03 AM
3

Grocery store is target rich and gives you easy props to start a conversation. You're on the right track for using chips but I prefer to comment on what's in their cart of if they're looking at something. Its unexpected and most girls dont have their defenses up versus a direct approach.
/r/seduction29/01/20 01:47 PM
1

Yes but it's hard to build empires if we're killing each other over mating rights thus monogamy.
/r/askTRP22/01/20 01:54 PM
7

Shes suppose to do that. You just follow her pace, back off and try again. Gotta be patient, the sex has to be your fault.
/r/seduction20/01/20 06:37 PM
2

You dont ask because she either A. Wont answer honestly B. Wont know herself and how to explain it to you in a way you will understand
/r/seduction17/01/20 02:41 AM
5

Contempt and arrogance. My mentor would always tell me to paint the most unflattering picture of the woman I was speaking to so that way I'd get over her beauty. In my case I'd always paint a picture of the girl I was talking to taking a shit, nothing sexy about that. Then I could just talk to her and treat her normally. Over time I actually didnt give a shit but painting a unflattering picture was a good set of training wheels.
/r/seduction16/01/20 04:24 PM
1

Right now all I want to do is get laid and not have to pay for it. So I know I'll probably have to go on dates, pretend like I want a relationship and then finally enter those sweet sugar walls in the carven Overtime you will realize you dont have to pay for the cow when the milk is free and cold honestly is better than fake platitudes. Practice right now, keep you dates cheap and eat before them. Also if she doesnt put by date 3, cut your losses and move along. ​ vast majority of women care abo…
/r/seduction15/01/20 04:20 AM
1

Ultimately guys sniff it out because the advice doesnt work. Trying to police the subreddit frankly wont be that effective. IMO the most effective thing I have found is let some one be an idiot and say something and just cut them down yourself. I've had a couple of guys DM me later and mention some comment I made months ago because some person was venting at me.
/r/seduction15/01/20 03:30 AM
1

My man
/r/seduction09/01/20 04:25 PM
2

I would ask you the same thing. Looks do not hurt but you place way too much value in them.
/r/seduction09/01/20 04:11 PM
2

Seriously dude..... Women ain't us. Only things looks do is let you cut the line. It wont get you across the finish, that's what game is for. You're giving yourself away if you havent understood this yet.
/r/seduction09/01/20 04:00 PM
5

I'm trying to get OP to graduate from night gaming. OPs wingman was probably trying to be a wing so pulled back. Thing is that's seen as attractive in that setting because most guys are hunting for ass and the guys who are the shit usually are there just to hang out with their boys. I want OP to notice his wing was getting attention not because hes better looking (doesnt hurt) but more so because he wasnt trying to open women. Best game is no game/indirect game
/r/seduction09/01/20 03:48 PM
7

It's not so much that your wing is better looking. He just probably wasnt there to get any girls and only there to help you out. Thus he has that indifferent vibe. Literally the best game in a club setting is no game. You should practice and open up girls sure but ultimately it's the guys that arent there looking for women that get them the easiest. I used to work at a club and had so much ass thrown my way because I was trying to work. Meanwhile dudes are hunting in packs on the dancefloor wast…
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:39 PM
3

Dread game is basically you showing her shes replaceable and you will trade her in if she doesnt change behaviour. It has to subtle though as the dread wont settle in if you're obvious.
/r/askTRP09/01/20 07:07 AM
2

Just in general. You should always treat them as expendable in your mind. Biggest mistake most guys make is we overvalue a woman to the point we tolerate dumb shit or bend over backward. When you're "desensitized" things become alot easier. Most guys just find it hard to get to that stage.
/r/seduction09/01/20 06:35 AM
3

You're overthinking it. You get needy because you overvalue the woman and dont want to fuck it up. You have to be fine with losing her. She should literally be expendable in your mind. Attraction is always fleeting and depends on how you're presenting yourself to her at the moment and time. Your frame so to speak. If you break frame, her attraction wanes, it's not that complicated. Also dont forget for the most part, it takes a women longer to like you than it takes us. So always have other cand…
/r/seduction09/01/20 05:41 AM
6

You gotta figure out what you want from the game yourself. Wont do that without playing it. As for threesomes, more commonly it's done by already having a girl. Typically it's you looking for the second girl, take her info and give it to your primary girl and she sets it up. Threesomes dont work if you're being greedy. You're rarely gonna meet two women off the bat that will both fuck you. Works best to spice things up with your current girl. If you're too scared to even approach you're never go…
/r/seduction07/01/20 10:00 PM
1

Too much, about 1500 US dollars and another 700 for hotel and food for the weekend. Again learned very little from the workshop itself, could of just watched the free vids. Learned alot more from just hanging around guys who had this shit figured out and that was free
/r/seduction07/01/20 08:38 PM
1

No experience with the natural lifestyles but I have done boot camps and will freely admit it was not the best use of money in retrospect. The only value I got from them was the other guys who were learning with me and the friendships we built. The coach was ok but he wasnt very one on one. Dont forget it's a business at the end of the day and most of the coaches teach very broadly which wont help all. You're much better off just hanging around guys who are crushing it and mirroring them I learn…
/r/seduction07/01/20 07:38 PM
4

Girls at conventions are no different than girls anywhere else. Only difference is theres usually common ground to start a conversation. Many of my friends however fuck this up and just geek out with them and end up buddies instead of dates. I've pulled girls at cons and I'd suggest you ignore the fact you're at a con and dont geek out with them. That's buddy buddy shit. Treat her like some girl you met on the street Dont matter. Get over yourself, trying to make her feel bad is petty girl shit.…
/r/seduction01/01/20 03:46 PM
1

Dont have to be Pakistani to comment. For all I know you're not either.
/r/seduction31/12/19 09:33 PM
2

By mistake. Was deep into PUA and starting to get success but felt like I had learned everything and no one could teach me more. In particular I was trying to figure out a more time efficient way to close with women. I had grown annoyed at giving 1 hr of my time for 15 minutes of hers. Started looking outside of PUA and also got the chance to work as a club promoter. I started to get a shit ton of attention and didnt have to do shit to sleep with women and I didnt get why. Talked with a couple o…
/r/askTRP30/12/19 05:05 AM
2

I admit to my BS. I have cred cause I've already done all the fucking up.
/r/seduction30/12/19 04:47 AM
1

My GF is white....
/r/seduction30/12/19 04:46 AM
2

Conveying value is hearing from a third party about how badass you are and you never bring it up. Bragging is hearing from you how badass you are and you never hesitate to remind me.
/r/seduction30/12/19 04:45 AM
2

I'm asian, I see the struggle for indian and Pakistani guys. Partially why I stopped moaning about it being hard for east asians like me because I know south asians have it harder lol. When I say hes fucked, I mean from first impressions. South asian (east asians too) dont ozze sex appeal and have an unflattering sterotype. It is was it is. To deny that is plain naive. That's why you make up for it else where. For example I'm fully aware my GF would never of thought I was an option externally bu…
/r/seduction30/12/19 04:33 AM
2

Nope, you're fit right in. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you're kinda fucked as a Pakistani guy from just first impressions. However like with most things game makes up for it. Cant compete in looks and first impressions, make up for it elsewhere. There will be no "exotic value" for you in south America.
/r/seduction30/12/19 03:59 AM
2

Not so much trust just indifference. Cant get mad at dogs for barking, they bark. Guys will hit on her girl, it is what it is.
/r/seduction29/12/19 06:27 AM
1

Yes I'm sure.
/r/seduction28/12/19 08:14 PM
-1

Why are you worried about her orbiters? Shes never going to fuck them. She keeps them around for the free attention and validation. Other dudes are going to try and want to fuck your girl, what are they suppose to do? My GF has a couple of guy friends that follow her around like dogs, I know she ain't gonna fuck them and I'm not bothered.
/r/seduction28/12/19 04:14 PM
7

This^ 10s are great to fuck but useless as LTRs. 7s and 8s arent as spoiled yet. 10s that have the mentality of a 10 are fucking draining.
/r/askTRP27/12/19 02:50 AM
2

Gotta find your purpose brother. The girl is just a side piece. Beat way to find your purpose is trying to make a living off of what you love to do. That's a good start
/r/askTRP27/12/19 02:46 AM
12

The thing is...you're actually doing it right. You should be focused on doing your own thing. Girls aren't us, they dont engage guys they like as men do to women we like. Your typical woman isnt socialized to rejection and is deathly afraid of approaching men they find attractive. So she will do other things to get your attention like stare at you, ask you harmless questions, etc etc. You dont need to try and be more approachable. Just be aware that women will approach you in a different manner …
/r/seduction26/12/19 05:47 PM
8

I wouldnt say it fucks up your outlook. You just look at them very indifferently. Theres alot of apathy. At least for me, once I got out of rage phase I just felt indifference and apathy.
/r/askTRP26/12/19 05:18 PM
2

I work in the lions den and have come to realize if you dont show off and mantain boundaries quick and own it people leave you be. It's fine if they hate you, as long as they respect you.
/r/askTRP24/12/19 04:11 AM
1

If she cares enough she'll try to make it work. Either way, no harm in going to see what happens. Could just be a D appointment
/r/askTRP23/12/19 04:46 AM
10

Shes either -wants the D -testing the waters to see if you're down for her to monkey branch to. Wont know till you're face to face. Just dont be overly invested. I've been the other man and it never amazes me what a girl will do to their "boyfriends".
/r/askTRP23/12/19 04:08 AM
1

Dont be focused on quantity of approaches, focus on experimentation. Try different things, dont constantly do the same thing if it's not working for you. You could do as many approaches as you like but if you're not experimenting you wont grow. As to numbers, there no set number, everyone learns at their own pace.
/r/seduction21/12/19 05:59 PM
2

Standard practice is talk with all the girls but exclude the one you actually want. Stick around enough and see if the one you excluded tries to get your attention and proceed with separating her away from everyone else.
/r/seduction20/12/19 03:53 AM
3

Inner belief, contempt, indifference. The thing that kills fat guys in game is they think like fat guys and dont think they deserve any girl and get super self conscious and insecure. As to your question. You need to desensitize yourself to women. You gotta not give a shit what they think and be ok with them blowing you off and just moving on to the next women. It's not something you can really teach, you will develop it after you get blown off enough. You need the feeling of disappointment to t…
/r/seduction14/12/19 04:31 AM
3

Depends on how funny you are and how secure you are in your own skin. You can game but you cant do if you're thinking like a fat guy which I suspect you are if you're anxious. Cause as a fat guy, your biggest problem will be yourself because when you talk to some girl you're gonna overthink shit and get insecure. You cant compete physically so you gotta be able to charm your way in.
/r/seduction14/12/19 04:11 AM
2

It is backward but guys still have to learn cold approach simply to get used to being around women, the freshman class as I've said. In "The Game" there was a pretty high status Australian business man Neil was teaching who had the lifestyle but had no idea how to interact with women. At the end of the book, he ends up losing the girl because he can no longer mantain his "pickup" persona and she lost interest. Also dont forget that PUA is a business at the end of the day. Most guys (myself inclu…
/r/seduction13/12/19 03:36 PM
1

For me it was when I was working as a club promoter. I started to get a shit ton of free attention from women and didnt get it. Up to that point I had been just doing cold approach and was trying to figure out a more time efficient way to do this. The club kinda of opened my eyes and I realized the best game is no game. It literally didn't have to do anything. I would just work as usual and girls would try to get my attention and make it super easy. I also had another mentor there who was the so…
/r/seduction12/12/19 08:02 PM
6

First things first, what a woman finds attractive in a guy is completely different from what a guy finds attractive about a women. Women cant always explain well but they find the vibe of a guy more attractive than his surface features. They just "click" as they say. A girl can fall for a ok looking guy who's has a personality she "clicks" with. I as a guy am not falling for an ok looking girl with a great personality. The mistake both if us make is we think what attracts us is what attracts the…
/r/seduction12/12/19 06:07 PM
6

Sounds like you're ready to graduate from PUA. You're starting to realize the energy/time to close ratio is pretty bad and that theres got to be a more time efficient way to get the close. As to your question, I generally find it's not worth the time, you're playing her game and she knows it and will make you jump through more hoops. Ultimately the best game is no game. When I was deep into PUA I kept a journal and was frustrated at the time/energy wastage. I later worked at a club and "figured …
/r/seduction12/12/19 05:59 PM
1

Your age has no advantage unless you're naturally good with women. You're in HS, this is where you mess up and learn from it. What you ought to do is some people watching and observe how the girls treat different guys and do some trial and error yourself. Main thing you learn at this point is that women feel more intensely. Make a girl laugh and compare that with a guy who is only friendly. She will want to hang around with the guy that makes them laugh more so than the guy who's only friendly.
/r/askTRP12/12/19 05:34 PM
7

You forget they exist because you have other things to fill the space they had
/r/askTRP04/12/19 02:52 PM
1

You are winning for your Asian brothers, you and I have joined that dating non asian girl club they go on about for reasons. Now with that out of the way. Shes thinking out loud and gauging your reaction. She probably is genuinely surprised shes with you but dont be bothered by it. My GF did the same thing and her friends are always puzzled by us. Just brush it off with a witty remark and move along
/r/seduction04/12/19 05:43 AM
2

Only shit yes....I'm Asian and these girls are man eaters
/r/TheRedPill03/12/19 09:16 PM
1

Yep, just make sure you're still there to pick through the ashes
/r/TheRedPill03/12/19 09:13 PM
3

When shit hits rock bottom, theres no where else to go but up.
/r/TheRedPill02/12/19 04:28 PM
0

Comradery, that's about it, I simply like the game and I've been playing on the same team. I dont believe in the "cause" anymore. I have mixed feelings the current generation of dems but they serve a function. Helping start the fire. I very much subscribe to creative destruction and I think the time is ripe for it. I'm not a trump fan but I see him as a useful vanguard and model for how to do it next time and what not to do.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/19 04:43 PM
6

"Entry is free, donations are required"
/r/TheRedPill30/11/19 03:01 PM
27

That's Catholicism and old Spanish values for you. I came into RP through the PUA community. I was just trying to figure out a less time consuming method to get laid and alot of the guys who had the answers introduced me to RP. Yeah I had the typical losses, got fucked over but it didnt become fully RP aware until I started to get better with women. North american women will figure it later if they're open to it. I see alot of potential in the gen Z girls (my own GF is gen z) as many of them rej…
/r/TheRedPill30/11/19 04:20 AM
27

Theres a 35 yr old woman I work with who is having a sort of crisis of faith. This crisis began after #metoo began to affect our workplace and she didnt get it. It was honestly fascinating to watch it. First she was zealous about, then began to question it after she realized she couldnt build the social networks cause none of the guys would meet with her. Long story short, she was being a typical post wall women. She asked my thoughts last year, I was blunt, she didnt like it and saw me as toxic…
/r/TheRedPill30/11/19 02:56 AM
24

Most of the "lesbians" I know did it as a reaction to riding the CC. As you said they'd jump a quality guy if it was on offer.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/19 02:35 AM
9

Some figure it out, just too late by that time.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/19 02:32 AM
90

I'm gonna assume you meant would. I work in politics and my party affiliation is very the belly of the beast of these ideas. It may only be anadoctual but all the women I work with who are paragons of these ideas are slowly realizing something is wrong. Granted most of them are still in the blaming men phase and trying to come up with convoluted ways to explain the obvious. But they know something is wrong and they dont get it. Its hilarious to watch the mental gymnastics and hypotheses.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/19 09:06 PM
183

These things will correct themselves over time however it will get worse before it gets better. Play the long game fellas. Focus on your goals, write the current generation of women off. They will serve as an example to the next one. I'm in my early 30s and most women my own age are slowly starting to realize hard truths.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/19 08:05 PM
1

Cause and effect. Theres no shortage of causalities these days which will keep growing places like this. It is what it is. Though I'm amused the opposition has noticed to a degree and they have no idea how to deal with it.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/19 03:28 PM
1

Dont expect understanding. Focus on what you have control over. Expect no quarter and give no quarter. It is what it is.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/19 02:53 PM
5

Joe rogan, Steven Austin, coach Greg adams. Pretty much that's it.
/r/askTRP16/11/19 02:54 PM
1

Depends on what else you bring to the table. I know a guy that is basically in your situation and retired early to a country cabin and makes wood furniture on the side for extra cash. He looks like a straight up redneck but he has that really chill confident vibe that gets him women pretty easy because hes just fun to be around. Ultimately women fuck who you are, the job is just part of the uniform and the traits that got you there is what attracts her not so much the job itself. A banker doesnt…
/r/askTRP16/11/19 02:53 PM
2

You check for compliance and break the touch barrier and flirt. Treat her like a bratty sister. Flirt with her, see how she reacts. Tap her shoulders move her around to see if she let's you. If shes not into it, shes not into you, if theres some interest she will allow it. You need to establish the intent that you're interested romantically and see her reaction.
/r/seduction14/11/19 05:01 PM
2

Shouldnt of picked the movies. Worse place to "make a move" cause shes distracted by the movie and cant focus on you. Only way to salvage this is to take her to another venue after the movie. Then you can make a move cause theres no distractions
/r/seduction14/11/19 04:11 PM
9

Just go up to them. Nut up. Whenever you chat with a woman your primary objective should be to make her feel something emotional towards you. Anything, funny, hatred, etc etc. Women connect emotionally and feel them more intensely. Worst thing a woman can feel is nothing towards towards you.
/r/askTRP14/11/19 04:00 AM
10

In person. You can cut the bullshit and variables because you're physically there reacting in real time. Also most girls in real life have the same script when you talk with them and it gets really easy over time. Over social media, you're fighting on her terrain. Just bad in general if you're focused on getting laid as efficiently as possible.
/r/askTRP14/11/19 03:44 AM
1

You realize you could just as easily mistaken her "interest" as her just doing her job yes? Either way, if shes interested she will make some time to chat with you outside of the norm. As to asking her out, just ask her out. I wouldnt hand out your own number if you havent already spoken at length though.
/r/seduction13/11/19 04:14 PM
3

Indifference. Even in homosexual relationships there still exist the masculine and feminine energy dymanics. One partner is generally more masculine than the other. However as it relates to RP, homosexual relationships arent even really on the radar. RP just tells you the rule set, you do with it what you will
/r/askTRP11/11/19 09:44 PM
1

RP was never meant to be kosher and is largely indifferent to those outside of the conversation here. To try and improve TRP's image to others would be basically doing the very opposite of RP thought. To be RP is to know the rule set of life and see things for what they are. To contort to others just to make RP more easily digestible IMO is not compatable. RP's strength has always been that it's not centralized, there's no "RP pope" (despite others seeming to try) or a marketing department. Peop…
/r/askTRP07/11/19 06:11 PM
1

"Never confuse a single defeat as a final defeat" "We will either find a way or make one" "I am a slow walker but I never walk back"
/r/askTRP07/11/19 05:35 PM
3

It's not a matter of plain jane being smart. It's just that plain Janes arent as spoiled for choices as hotter women. Power corrupts, absolute power absolutely.
/r/askTRP07/11/19 02:13 PM
3

Women are not more passionate. Women love more opportunist while men love more naively. Looks only let you cut in line, it doesnt get you across the finish line.
/r/seduction06/11/19 02:49 AM
2

Shouldnt spread lies. Women arent guys, they fall for different things than guys and vice versa. What a woman is looking for isnt what a man is nor is it in the same order. A good looking man who's only thing is his looks is largely useless. Women dont just look at the surface level, they look deeper and how they "click" with the guy. Where with us guys, we generally only look at the surface level. As long as your hot we're good to go. We only look deeper when we consider sticking around with yo…
/r/seduction05/11/19 08:58 PM
2

AMS. No fancy theories, just blunt and to the point. Todd is fine if you're a introvert, hes a scalpel wheres AMS is a sledgehammer
/r/seduction05/11/19 03:05 PM
3

Keep in mind what works for AMS be not for you. I dig him and all that but ocasionally I disagree, eating pussy is one of those. I get his reasoning but I just think it's a good thing in between pumping away. Dont parrot everyone, ultimately you have to do what comes natural to you.
/r/askTRP05/11/19 02:12 PM
2

It started negative but was converted to something positive. At the end of the day ideally you want to become indifferent and fearless of loss. For me, I converted my resentment into drive and became desensitized. Everyone will do it differently but reach the same outcome.
/r/askTRP05/11/19 03:49 AM
1

Resentment, alot of resentment. When you see them at their worse you become desensitized to them and focus on other things like yourself.
/r/askTRP05/11/19 03:37 AM
9

Most women will automatically give off the impression they dont want to be approached esp if it's a cold approach. You just have go in and gauge her reaction. You cant punk out just cause she looks like shes not interested. I'd rather take a loss than never attempt.
/r/seduction05/11/19 03:31 AM
1

Doesnt hurt to throw out a feeder. You seem to be the one that ended it so it is up to you to restart. Dont expect anything though, hope leads to disappointment. Throw out a feeder and forget, if she reaches out, cool. If not then keep it moving. I've reconnected with girls who were unavailable at the time and even girls who rejected me and it's a mixed bag. Really depends on the nature of the last time you saw them. In your case it should be fine but you will have to take point. She wanted excl…
/r/seduction05/11/19 02:59 AM
3

Theres little benefit for a guy with online dating. Theres an oversupply of men in them you're just wasting your time. It's great for women, not so much for men. Again I only text to set up dates, nothing more. If she pushes the issue I explain I prefer seeing her in person. If shes not ok, cool bye I'll go get more candidates. There will be some other guy who will put up with that, it just wont be me. Dont waste time. Nonsexual attention is very valuable to a woman, dont give it away for free.
/r/seduction04/11/19 09:38 PM
6

Under 25. My own GF is 19. I only text to set up dates. I've had girls drop off the mat if I didnt text but I'd just replace them and move along. Typically they'd be back after a couple of months. Texting is setting up stuff, not building attraction. Its piss poor at that and you're wasting time. You can text her when you're already LTR but not early phase of seduction.
/r/seduction04/11/19 09:12 PM
9

Same concept. Snapchat should only be used for setting dates Reason being is look at it from her PoV. Typical girl gets tons of guys that snap or slip into their DMs. You're giving her free attention that isnt special or sets you apart from the other dudes. Key is to set yourself apart. Giving her free nonsexual attention doesnt do this
/r/seduction04/11/19 05:53 PM
12

It's just a couple of weeks so what. I've had girls drop off the face of the earth and contact me back months later. This is why you date multiple girls and keep a rotation cause some of them will drop off. Yes pull back. You shouldn't be talking until the actual dates. The distance and time apart is what builds attraction cause it gives her time to think about you.
/r/seduction04/11/19 02:52 PM
2

All you need to do is be there when they're ready. Most people have a hard time swallowing the RP. You cant force it, they have to want to do it.
/r/askTRP04/11/19 02:43 PM
87

You shouldnt be texting this early in the game. Cut that shit out and only talk to her in person. In this phase you should only be using text for setting up dates and nothing more. Texting is a game you wont win so dont play. Also stop wanting her so much. In your mind you should see her as replaceable and not a big deal. Keep in mind, you're expendable. She could easily get some other guy to give her attention. So you ought to treat her the same way. That way you will desensitized and wont feel…
/r/seduction04/11/19 02:21 PM
1

They dont sound purple pill to me. Most of my circle fit the purple pill description and they usually agree with RP's theory but they purposely dont follow its prescription out of a moral sense. As to how to make your friends RP aware. You frankly cant convince them. They have to want to accept the RP, it's got to be their own idea. All you can do is keep talking, bringing up ideas for them to hear. Typically that's how my circle went RP. They remember me talking about something that relates to …
/r/askTRP04/11/19 02:06 PM
1

You're wasting your time, it's not that complicated. Cut her off, talk to other girls. If shes down she'll reach out. Dont wate time, keep things moving
/r/seduction31/10/19 10:58 PM
5

Sexual innuendo, learn it. For example, when my GF and I were still early dating phase she decided to decorate one of her room's red. I joked and said "that sounds like a BDSM room, dont tell me you're into that" She smirked and we started talking about her sexual fantasies. Next day we were in that room testing it out. Other things could be using stuff she says as "conversational props". For example I was talking to this girl and I wasnt that interested and she told me she worked at Hooters. I …
/r/seduction31/10/19 10:50 PM
-2

Shit I've said to that "That's what they all say" "What makes you think you're worth the effort?" look her up and down and show dissapointment "nah I'm pretty sure you are" I just dismiss it
/r/askTRP31/10/19 04:36 PM
1

Obviously wouldnt call it a plate if I didnt get in
/r/askTRP30/10/19 08:17 PM
6

RSD died the moment Todd left. Dont get me wrong business wise it's a smart move to go into self help but if you're looking for PUA material they arent doing that anymore. They're still a business at the end of the day and they want to survive.
/r/seduction30/10/19 07:02 PM
3

Got a plate. Could of closed as she lived nearby but my boy and me had plans I didnt want to break for some pussy.
/r/askTRP30/10/19 04:18 AM
1

Which is a completely valid suggestion OP will have to consider.
/r/askTRP30/10/19 04:13 AM
1

Then suggest an alternative to OP. You're not here to convince me.
/r/askTRP30/10/19 03:51 AM
3

I watched the body language and heard some of the date when I did some recon on the way to the bathroom. By the end he was quiet and started messing with his phone to look for stuff to talk about and she was staring around the room looking bored as fuck.
/r/askTRP30/10/19 03:42 AM
3

She was cold bloodied...straight cold blooded
/r/askTRP30/10/19 03:29 AM
4

Not gonna lie, dude looked hard and made me rethink if I wanted to try. Later found out he was a basketball player figures, his looks and pre-selection got him through the door with her but he didnt know what else to do. But after watching how poor their date was going there was blood in the water and I bit.
/r/askTRP30/10/19 03:25 AM
5

I had this happen at a restaurant. They were obviously on a first date and dude was fucking it up. He looked like a Tyrone but he didnt act like it. Anyways his date kept glancing at me. I'd look and shes look away. Finally I said fuck it and waved her over. Dude looked hard but he was a simp. She didnt want to leave her date and was being lowkey as her date was checking his phone. So I got up and sat down at the table next to her and literally stole her and went on a instant date. My boy was co…
/r/askTRP30/10/19 03:08 AM
5

You can but you will have to play around your height and disability. It's a bad hand, cant change it so you gotta develop other skills to make up for it. Looks only get you through the door quicker, it wont get you across the finish line. As for what you ought to do, build up a belief system. Cause I'm assuming your disability and height makes you super self conscious. You'll need to desensitize yourself from society's expectations and attractive women. You're really young so I'm pretty sure you…
/r/askTRP30/10/19 01:53 AM
10

You're in the wrong subreddit if you took the blackpill
/r/askTRP30/10/19 01:39 AM
1

Go and get your red wings its really not that bad. Just do it and check it off the list
/r/askTRP30/10/19 01:39 AM
3

It's a chemical reaction. A drug that's nice until it expires. If you want unconditional love get a dog.
/r/askTRP25/10/19 07:36 PM
1

You ever notice the really high quality women arent on tinder? Food for thought. Dont fight the enemy on the enemy's choosing. Tinder favors women so it makes no sense to waste time there. It's simply inefficient. Text game is grossly inefficient and you waste alot of time because again you're fighting her on her terms. The amount of time you waste to get a close is just not efficient. Frankly IMO indirect game is best. Chasing/cold approach is good for beginners starting out but ultimately you …
/r/seduction25/10/19 02:44 AM
6

Anywhere really. Grocery stores, coffee shops, bookstores, department stores, etc etc. I met mine at a department store, we chatted and I just threw it out there and she was down. Frankly you shouldnt be going to places with the intent of finding women. Go to places you actually want to go and if there happens to be women cool.
/r/seduction24/10/19 04:06 PM
3

It's worth learning for life not female nature. Theres other literature for female nature.
/r/askTRP24/10/19 11:50 AM
12

By not going on tinder and meeting them in real life. Online dating is the clearance bin of women and the supply of guys is high on those platforms so the chances of you wasting your time is high. Also you cant build attraction through texting. You're missing the physical aspect. It's just bad hunting grounds in general for a guy. You wanna learn how to talk with women?, go out in the field and talk to women, all of them, ugly ones, alright ones, hot ones, etc. You dont need to number close, jus…
/r/seduction24/10/19 11:37 AM
1

Dont think about it. She doesnt, believe me. She will years down the line but right now shes hamstering. All you need to know is that you wont be like her BF. Dick her down while shes here but take notes of her behaviour for future reference. It's not that hard to rationalize. Her BF is a provider type that doesnt fulfill her needs so she does it with you. It's not that complicated
/r/askTRP21/10/19 07:41 PM
5

Shes cheating on her BF, it's not that hard to not care. When I was the other dude I always lowkey resented the girls I was fucking cause I was like "you piece of shit, here you are fucking me and your dude is at the apartment making you dinner".
/r/askTRP21/10/19 06:53 PM
18

Dick is in high supply with low demand. If a girl wants to get fucked she can give it away easy. You dont LTR a girl that gives her vagina out freely.
/r/askTRP21/10/19 06:49 PM
1

Special sauce is something like this Shes feminine Low mileage It's not that complicated.
/r/askTRP21/10/19 06:47 PM
22

You dont LTR a girl with high body count. Shes a plate and nothing more. A girl with a high body count has trouble pair bonding and if she gave up her vagina that easy what makes you think she wont again?
/r/askTRP21/10/19 06:45 PM
2

Much appreciated mate. You gotta be colder to them the more you care. I'm very much in same place. Current girl I'm with I slip like a motherfucker and constantly have to remember I'm doing her a favor. Everytime I slip up Patrice O'Neils voice echoes in my head "What would you really miss" "Bitches make me sick" "I am better than you" Then I'm back, frame restored.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/19 01:56 AM
16

Dont think too hard about it. As to escalating yoga will give you plenty of excuses. Plenty of sexual innuendo you can do. She is literally serving herself on a platter for you, only way to duck this up is if you talk her out of it. I say do the yoga, use good old reliable backhanded compliments and move to sexual innuendos. From there is up to your personality when shes in the mood.
/r/askTRP15/10/19 01:30 AM
1

You have to take part in your own rescue. You dont seem to have a single solid question so look to the sidebar and figure out what you want to focus on first. Because right now you dont seem to know where you want to start. So read up and come back with one specific question
/r/askTRP14/10/19 06:15 PM
2

Set up a study session and check for compliance on her end. Then see if you can take her out on a insta date. If so proceed like its first date and go for the close. If resistance is shown (likely as shes taken), disregard it with wit and make sure it's your fault. Profit.
/r/askTRP10/10/19 12:58 PM
1

Tiredness yes. Dont feel like verbally sparing right now, need to be rested to think of witty comebacks and ripostes
/r/askTRP10/10/19 12:38 PM
27

You met a girl on a dating app and surprised it's just a dick appointment? Go dick her down and toss her to the side and move along.
/r/askTRP09/10/19 04:47 AM
1

A few licks and a bag over the head gets it right back up
/r/askTRP09/10/19 02:22 AM
1

His shit school's lack of resources. Mind you this isnt meant to be an excuse. It's simply a variable that must be adjusted for.
/r/askTRP08/10/19 09:32 PM
1

That's different in the respects that academic achievement can be clearly measured. Theres no preference and ambiguity. But working within your analogy yes he has to work harder simply because he is starting behind. It simply sounded to me you put little to no value on the buff Indian dude's race when it is a variable he would be wise to consider. It's not a crippling non starter but it's something that needs to worked around.
/r/askTRP08/10/19 08:54 PM
2

The statistical average is a good measure. There will margins of error yes but typically statistical averages are sound and form a good basis to develop a plan on. I recognize as an Asian guy living in the west I am the least desirable race to date. In spite of this I've still crushed it but I'm not the average. To just deny that is foolish. It doesnt hurt my feelings when I'm told Asian men are least desired. I know it to be true and have adapted accordingly.
/r/askTRP08/10/19 08:17 PM
2

You know you can keep going after you shoot off the first time....
/r/askTRP08/10/19 07:55 PM
7

You're kidding me right? Statistically certain races are deemed more attractive than others. This doesnt mean you're shit outta luck based off your race it just means you have a slightly different deck of cards to play with. As an Asian guy I'm aware of my cards and play with them as best I can. I cant just ignore them, its foolish otherwise.
/r/askTRP08/10/19 07:50 PM
2

He can fuck anyone he wants for sure but he'd be a fool to dismiss the race variable. It's like a dude who's short that doesnt acknowledge his shortness is a variable he has to account for in some other way.
/r/askTRP08/10/19 06:45 PM
3

I wouldnt say its key. Race just adds new variables to the equation. Black guys that want to mess with non black women have to develop a good game or they starve. Theres other things like a positive sterotype that help but ultimately the black guys I hang out with slay because they have to not because race mixing is some cheat code. For white guys and Asian women, white guys are seen as a status symbol so really even lower value white guys are inflated SMV wise to them. As for Asian guys, myself…
/r/askTRP08/10/19 06:20 PM
3

Move her away to someplace quiet in whatever style is natural to you. It's not something you can just take notes on and refer to them when you're actually there. It's just something you will naturally learn to do through trial and error. If you're kissing the girl already you should be trying to close whether that be getting the number for later date or sharing a bathroom stall.
/r/seduction08/10/19 05:43 PM
82

Good good was about to say "Patrices whole thing is this"
/r/TheRedPill08/10/19 05:26 PM
8

Write her off and keep things moving. Find other candidates
/r/askTRP08/10/19 05:04 PM
1

Shes practice. Feel free to do whatever comes to mind and dont act like shes doing you a favor. You're 20 so you're gonna mess up. Now's the best time to do some trial and error. Main thing you should learn is to not be so invested in anything happening. Go with the flow. Its easier with older women to learn this because you wont be as invested vs a younger girl. Dont make any issues with the age gap or think at all. Shes just some girl you're going on a date with. She doesnt deserve any special…
/r/seduction08/10/19 05:03 PM
1

Warrant as in shes not worth the effort
/r/askTRP08/10/19 12:54 PM
1

Why are you making such a fuss over a post wall woman? They're for practice, so practice. As to your situation, I'm not sure what your objective is but for post wall girls I'm very much for "dick them down and toss them on the side of the road". Girl like that doesnt warrant a "disinterested in fucking first date" method. Yes if youre disinterested in fucking a girl on the first date she may chase harder because it gives her something to chase. But again I dont think this girl warrants that. Jus…
/r/askTRP08/10/19 04:56 AM
1

Dont hit her up until she does it. If you are willingly to righteously leave she will righteously stay.
/r/askTRP08/10/19 04:19 AM
5

Downgrade her in your rotation. I wouldnt soft next her but I'd def put her in the back of the line and forget shes there until she brings it up to remind you. I dont see any issues. She denied sex, you held your ground and dumped her ass off. Handled it textbook. Let her think you're fucking someone else in your rotation. She'll be back and let you do whatever. If not, cool keep it moving
/r/askTRP08/10/19 04:04 AM
1

That's fear talking. You have to be ok with losing her. If there was any attraction on her end she'll reach out lowkey. If not then you saved some time. In the coming days you have to make sure you keep to it and dont contact her again unless shes open to dating. In the meantime, go about your day and live. Talk to other girls, keep it moving. Next girl you're interested in, waste no time in letting her know and if she says yes cool, if not keep it moving. Never be friends unless you actually wa…
/r/seduction07/10/19 08:20 PM
3

Nah, as long as both are consenting adults you're good. Dont let people shame you into thinking otherwise
/r/seduction07/10/19 06:32 PM
6

It's not recommended because it's not efficient and has low return on investment. You're operating at a disadvantage off the spot because youre just another dude trying to slip in her Dms. Any decent looking girl will have tons of guys trying to get into her DMs feeding her free attention. If you insist on continuing. It's simply a matter of setting yourself apart from the hundreds of other dudes. The returns wont be good but you're just gonna have to learn that yourself at this point.
/r/askTRP07/10/19 01:17 PM
2

Pretty much yeah. Keep it short and to the point.
/r/seduction07/10/19 12:58 PM
3

No. You should of stopped talking awhile back. She even told you straight up she wasnt looking for anything. Leave the door open for her whenever shes good to go but keep it moving. Go talk with other women
/r/seduction07/10/19 12:44 PM
1

I'm a guy mate lol. It's why I said dont ask the fish ask the fisherman. Girls want you to save the pics and do whatever, it gives them validation. Hell they sometimes will check and remind you. For example there was this girl I met and when she gave me her number she took a pic of herself on my phone for the number profile. Months later got annoyed I had deleted the pic. You have to understand the typical attractive girl is bombarded by guys and cant keep track of them all. It doesnt occur to m…
/r/seduction04/10/19 03:12 PM
1

Never ask the fish ask the fisherman. Many girls wont answer that question honestly because it would make themselves look bad, insercure and childish. Because frankly the reason they send you pics could be one of many reasons To see your reaction To give you something to remember them by For validation Could be others but it usually falls under the above.
/r/seduction04/10/19 02:59 PM
0

Women you meet play off of your energy and are reflections of you. Best believe if you set boundaries early it will pacify her and she'll be sweet. Some women do the whole bitchy thing because they're either very masculine to begin with, they dont want to be easy, you're coming off weak/strong and shes trying to match it, etc etc. Take your pick Either way your job is just to knock her down a peg verbally and see if she gets sweet and feminine again.
/r/seduction04/10/19 02:43 PM
2

It's a business jacket except more casual, typically made with more course material and last longer.
/r/seduction03/10/19 03:22 AM
2

5.11 make insanely good quality stuff. I dont generally wear it outside of outdoor events though lol. You seem to prefer function over form, you could start small with the classic leather jacket, white T and jeans. It's simple, functional and is timeless. For more causual wear and if you're not into the viking biker look. Go with fitted chinos/jeans a polo/sweater and a sports jacket. It makes you look mature, not to showy and you're going places.
/r/seduction03/10/19 02:53 AM
1

Everybody has a preference, even guys that wear whatever have a preference, no fuss and easy to wear. You're the one wearing it at the end of the day
/r/seduction03/10/19 01:17 AM
2

You really need to just wear what fits you. What works for me may not work for you. However based off your build itd have to be something fitted, pay attention to something with your shoulders built up. I'd reccomend you go to shops, try on lots of different things and figure out if you can see yourself wearing it regularly. If you want to try a more "mature" look go for neutral colors. Other than that you gotta do what suits you
/r/seduction03/10/19 01:01 AM
3

Straight up rejection
/r/seduction02/10/19 03:36 PM
4

Could be they did it so youd leave them alone or you come off thristy in the text to set something up. Likely the latter. It seems like you did enough to get a number but you arent doing something right to "make the sell" Only suggestion I have is when you plan the date you keep it brief and move along if shes unsure. Dont try to convince her to go on the date, put it out there, she says yes or no and keep it moving. Uts a numbers game for us at the end of the day
/r/seduction02/10/19 03:04 PM
2

I used to work at a night club and most of the guys that crushed it were the ones who weren't thristy and were actually there to hang out with their boys. Likewise I used to keep a journey back in PUA days and I found it's not productive time wise to approach them as they expect it and you're wasting time dealing with shit tests before the close. When it flipped and I worked at the club instead of hunted I got more returns because I generally didnt care and focused on my job. Do what you want to…
/r/askTRP02/10/19 01:20 PM
3

14 days is great but 7 days will suffice most of the time
/r/askTRP01/10/19 08:18 PM
3

You cant fake experience. It always shows when you do the deed.
/r/seduction01/10/19 08:10 PM
1

It has value, just not as much value as trial and error.
/r/seduction26/09/19 05:25 PM
8

You attract what you put out is a better one. "Cute" is way too subjective but overall yes it's legit you get what you put out
/r/seduction26/09/19 05:00 PM
0

Compared to trial and error yes
/r/seduction26/09/19 04:57 PM
1

The disagreement I think we're having is you place higher value on the tutorials and I place more value on the trial and error process. Correct me if I'm wrong. Theres value in the tutorials but at the end of the day you will not be able to refer to those while you're in the act. I'm saying this as someone who used to religiously watch sexual tutorials and realized to just do it and figure it. Then compare notes with others
/r/seduction26/09/19 03:16 PM
0

So it's better to sugarcoat it and say your early sexual experiences will be amazing instead of saying it's ok to mess up the first couple of times because most do so dont beat yourself up over it?
/r/seduction26/09/19 03:06 PM
1

Suggesting not to rely on others is generalizing?
/r/seduction26/09/19 02:57 PM
1

You will always slip, I always slip but the key is to recognize you are and to adjust accordingly. Self mastery is key in RP.
/r/askTRP26/09/19 12:58 PM
7

Sex sucks the first couple of times, you can watch as many tutorials as you like but you only get better over trial and error.
/r/seduction26/09/19 12:55 PM
2

The end goal is to do something you actually enjoy, your purpose. Conventional careers are just stepping stones while you work on that.
/r/askTRP26/09/19 12:34 PM
1

Doesnt matter, you offered and she declined. You did your part. Worry about shit you have control over. This girl could of had a variety of reasons, you dont know and frankly it doesnt matter. Move along the line and keep it moving.
/r/askTRP24/09/19 03:15 AM
1

Takes longer, more headaches, take your pick. Girls like that require alot of reassurances and too much work
/r/seduction20/09/19 06:02 PM
0

If a girl is chopping off her hair it's usually an act of rebellion/feminism/etc etc. Point is...its more work for you.
/r/seduction20/09/19 05:01 PM
0

If she cut off her hair why are you bothering with her? That's a huge red flag.
/r/seduction20/09/19 04:54 PM
9

In my experience those girls still go for the very guys they say they dont want. In fact they're much more easy to fall for it because they tend to over invest hoping to get a good one this time. I hate players= I hate that I love players She'll still go with the player over the square dude she cant help it.
/r/seduction20/09/19 04:25 PM
0

I get the whole American women are X and y but to move overseas because of it is silly. I'd move overseas for economical reasons not because of women.
/r/askTRP27/08/19 10:42 PM
2

Always trust your gut, it's there for a reason
/r/askTRP24/08/19 01:48 AM
3

Dont go out of your way to re-spin. If shes DTF then she'll come around. If you really want to re-spin then go spin other plates and take away your attention from her. You want it too much, go spin other plates.
/r/askTRP24/08/19 01:37 AM
2

Ask and you will receive
/r/seduction22/08/19 08:02 PM
1

This ^ It's free too
/r/seduction22/08/19 06:48 PM
29

The case study is simply a warning to dudes there to not adopt modern western Male norms. More stuff like this I see the more I'm thinking non westerners like myself need to look at the western culture as a cautionary tale.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/19 03:57 PM
19

Holy shit....and this is from a seemingly conservative society.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/19 02:40 PM
3

You are bitching. Nepotism is the norm, understand it and get on with your life. Only way to resolve it is to let the person who got promoted fuck up. Hell even that sometimes doesnt get rid of the person
/r/askTRP22/08/19 11:46 AM
1

Brother you put this is the wrong subreddit. Post this on asianmasculinity you're get more relevant replies from the right demographics
/r/seduction21/08/19 06:20 AM
2

Cold approach is the freshman year. RP is junior/senior year.
/r/askTRP18/08/19 07:30 PM
1

When in doubt always go with your gut. If you find it nasty then you find it nasty, do what your gut says
/r/askTRP18/08/19 07:25 PM
3

Wrong subreddit, go to the seduction subreddit for cold approach advice. RP will be here for you after you graduate the introductory class.
/r/askTRP18/08/19 07:19 PM
3

For every 1 legit mgtow monk I usually see 10 "mgtows" who are really just trapped in RP rage mode and dont want to leave it. For me I feel indifference. Theres some value because I feel mgtow expand on monk monk and I regularly watch content creators from that school of thought.
/r/askTRP18/08/19 07:05 PM
5

Never hero worship. Read the book, make of it what you may and take what you can from it. I'm not the biggest Rollo fan but I still value his contribution.
/r/askTRP18/08/19 06:49 PM
3

Mastering yourself is true power -Lao tzu
/r/askTRP18/08/19 03:38 PM
2

Dang I ain't that ice cold shit lol.
/r/askTRP16/08/19 01:19 AM
1

Over phone no. The phone is for setting up dates in the early phase nothing more. Best thing you can do is remain radio silent until the next date. That way shes wondering about you, you kill the wonder if you text her.
/r/seduction15/08/19 11:46 AM
36

She doesn't exist anymore as far as you're concerned. Dont get soft now. I wouldn't bother with the hoodies tbh. She can keep them to remind her.
/r/askTRP15/08/19 04:24 AM
6

I'm not disagreeing that he should ask dudes first. Just in the event he had to trust one woman it'd be his mom.
/r/askTRP15/08/19 03:38 AM
27

Red pill rage fades over time but you need to find some goal and purpose to replace the need of a woman. Shes nice to have on the side but she should never be the goal. Also your mother is the only woman you can share your thoughts to. Shes probably the only woman who you can trust.
/r/askTRP15/08/19 03:19 AM
0

You have to try it to see if it works for you. Everyone gets something different from it.
/r/askTRP14/08/19 08:30 PM
2

You're trying too hard, she should find out about those selfies indirectly. Posting them on social media is you using a technique and it obvious. Posting them post break would dimish you as it implies you're either not over her or you're a die hard. Either one is bad. As to resetting with your current girl do it without props. Best reset is to take away your nonsexual attention and something else. Stop wanting it so much
/r/seduction14/08/19 08:00 PM
2

Relationship management is a different topic not often covered in this subreddit. As you stated, it's hard to do a 180 if your partner is accustomed to you a certain way.
/r/seduction13/08/19 04:46 PM
–

Yeah there is but you need to believe everything you say. Alot of guys will say something audacious and then take it back because the girl didnt response well. This is incorrect, you have to say in there and own it. For example I was talking to this girl and she told me she worked at Hooters, implying she was hot shit. I told her "no way" while looking at her breasts "you got a little boy chest there" She was of course upset, her reaction was priceless and she started to tell me all the things g…
/r/seduction13/08/19 04:36 PM
2

Early days yes I kept a journal and documented every approach with women and what I did, her response, mistakes on my end, etc. Over time I could actually track my progress and it motivated me and got me through the RP rage phase cause I could show myself receipts.
/r/askTRP13/08/19 04:21 PM
1

Sexual tension is what separates a friend from a potential lover. It's the most important part to seduction but you cant get to that point if you dont have the correct mindset. You wont have the nerve and audacity to create sexual tension if you dont believe in what you're saying. You're overthinking things which is common. As you've read The Game, do you recall the Austrialian guy who's wife left him because he stopped being the guy she met? That guy didnt internalize and believe his own shit. …
/r/seduction13/08/19 04:15 PM
6

Main thing you have to understand is that your primary objective is to get the girl to feel something towards you, anything be it intrigue, disgust, hatred, etc. This is important because women feel emotions more intensely and few guys invoke that on a day to day basis. Another thing, stop thinking about it. Just do it, dont pause and think, its unnatural and awkward. So stop thinking about what do you do if she does X. If she has a boyfriend, so what assume she doesnt. Dont think about how you …
/r/seduction13/08/19 03:58 PM
1

PUA is freshman year of college. I found RP through the PUAs because I had a knowledge gap the PUAs couldnt fill. Cold approach is very much inefficient this is true but it has its value in that it helps guys get over approach anxiety. At least that's what I gained from it. PUA serves its purpose and has its ulititly but eventually you need to take the RP to further your knowledge.
/r/askTRP13/08/19 03:47 PM
1

Other dude already beat me to the potential limitations
/r/askTRP13/08/19 03:29 PM
1

This^
/r/askTRP13/08/19 03:25 PM
1

Oh yeah certainly.
/r/askTRP13/08/19 03:24 PM
8

Indifference.
/r/askTRP13/08/19 03:14 PM
2

Sigh.....
/r/seduction13/08/19 01:50 PM
1

Based off reading your post, no. You looked at RP ideas from a female PoV and misinterpreted it. You wont understand/internalize it if you cant see it in the Male PoV. Back to the question though. No I dont find it scary if a woman "knows too much" about RP because she can never really internalize it cause shes not a guy.
/r/askTRP13/08/19 01:34 PM
8

Sigh....texting for logistics not flirting. Had you done what you did in person you could easily turn it around. Over text it's all disadvantage. Just skip and move to next topic.
/r/askTRP13/08/19 02:32 AM
5

Your value should be something you dont go out of your way to show. If you try to show value you're over compensating and it comes from a sense of insecurity. Hang around quality guys and you will notice they dont really try. They just put out this vibe that they're the shit.
/r/seduction12/08/19 11:38 AM
3

Never apologize, at best acknowledge you were wrong but never say I'm sorry. It only encourages bad behaviour later.
/r/seduction11/08/19 07:26 PM
1

RPs priority is always the individual and their benefit. Erotic texts are only useful if they turn into something physical. They're pointless otherwise.
/r/askTRP11/08/19 07:26 PM
6

Social circle is for social proof not for recruiting girls. It's nice if it gets you something but its not meant to. I don't draw recruits from my social circle because they're there generally due to me not being attracted to them in the first place but I know other guys find them attractive. Cold approach IMO is fine early on but you need to develop indirect game as you waste less time. This is basically how I found RP because in PUA you waste alot of time auditioning for girls when you should …
/r/askTRP10/08/19 04:51 AM
3

You already put it out there you wanted to hang out. Dont be needy and do it again. Let her be pissed and do something else in the meantime. Dont let her pettiness diminish you. You just ignore it, go about your business, if shes down then cool if shes not then whatever. Long term? Only thing you can do is make sure shes aware this behaviour doesnt phase you through actions. Mind you even if they know they'll still do it.
/r/askTRP09/08/19 07:20 PM
6

Doesnt matter what it is, you didnt feel like coming over so you didn't come over. Just ignore her till she comes back around. Shes trying to get you to enter her frame with this silent treatment shit.
/r/askTRP09/08/19 07:11 PM
1

Only after I've written them off and moved on to other girls.
/r/seduction08/08/19 08:39 PM
1

PUA is good for beginners, best thing it teaches is to get over approach anxiety. However it's very limited and you eventually need to graduate to game. Game however IMO is fundamental because it forms the basis of your methodology. The problem people often have with game is it's never uniform so it's hard to measure externally. Your looks for example is partial game. You know how to lean on it. A guy who isnt you may need to develop some other game because he didnt put in the work you did.
/r/seduction08/08/19 07:42 PM
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Theres alot of overlap, I came into RP through the PUA community. However the law of attraction is very much a PUA concept. RP focuses on very concrete matters, it's very scientific and clinical. The rule of attraction isnt very concrete so IMO RP would be indifferent about it. Law of attraction is a very abstract concept so doesnt really fit in RP.
/r/askTRP08/08/19 07:09 PM
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Even if you think shes not like that always assume shes like that. I have a LTR and I think I did well but even I'm not arrogant enough to think she couldnt change if I slipped up.
/r/askTRP08/08/19 07:03 PM
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I dont consider it part of RP. In PUA we stressed the law of attraction but IMO RP is about fundamentals and concrete matters not metaphysical/spiritual matters like the law of attraction. I have some bias in the law of attraction due to my time in the PUA community but I wouldnt consider it a pillar in the RP.
/r/askTRP08/08/19 07:01 PM
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In your analogy you make sure you dont go full evil because you forget the skillsets from "humble world". Those will be useful later.
/r/askTRP08/08/19 02:21 PM
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Take it slow brother. Power corrupts.
/r/askTRP08/08/19 02:11 PM
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You will the first weeks because you're use to being a fat dude. It's like when a fat girl loses weight and still has the mentality of a fat girl. Shes not aware of her own power yet and hasnt internalized it yet. Another analogy would be how when people win the lottery but waste all the money too quick because they arent used to all that cash in one go. After you get the surgery yes people will treat you differently but power corrupts as they say. Take it slow, get used to being treated differe…
/r/askTRP08/08/19 02:05 PM
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Even if you get the surgery done you need the mindset/mental discinple. You can look like Chad all you want, only thing that will do is get you through the front door. You will still need a good game to get across the finish line. Get the surgery if you want the surgery but your biggest issue will be that you lack the mindset of a guy who gained the "Chad" look naturally. It's like in the PUA community, we learn to play the alpha but we are a pale comparison at best because most of us never real…
/r/askTRP08/08/19 01:46 PM
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Our work makes it easy for women to approach us lowkey. We do alot of fundraisers so it's easy for a woman to chat my boi up about the cause of the week and move to flirting with him. Outside of work forget about it, few girls will approach unless they're in packs.
/r/askTRP07/08/19 08:31 PM
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Not in our circle. 4s and 5 sure (they dont have the luxury of sitting around) but the girls that hang around our workplace are minimum 8s. They're usually the socialite types with plenty of options so they're not going to approach him off the bat.
/r/askTRP07/08/19 08:09 PM
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Tourists are some of the best practice for approaches. It's the testing ground for your game, you can fuck up all you want cause theres always another batch. When I was the tourist I'd just walk up to girls, ask them where shit was and if they'd be a tour guide for me. Then I'd start working on them. Just keep things simple, treat the tourists like you would with any other woman. Experiment cause these are some of the best ones you can do that with.
/r/seduction07/08/19 02:39 PM
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Guy I work with falls into that top 20% and believe me women dont "throw" themselves at him. It's more like they all admire him from a distance or try to talk with him and be lowkey. Girls don't act like dudes when they "approach". Girls arent up in my boi's face all the time. Its more like a bunch of BP dudes in a room with a hot girl, none of them will approach her but they're all looking. If anything I get more attention because they want to know everything about my boi before they try to cha…
/r/askTRP07/08/19 02:24 PM
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This
/r/askTRP06/08/19 10:30 PM
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No, just own up and send it. A fake email is just wussing out. Dont be a coward.
/r/seduction06/08/19 06:43 AM
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You need to find your purpose. One of the RPs tenants has always been the focus on self. You shouldnt rely on a woman for fulfillment. Find your own.
/r/askTRP06/08/19 03:53 AM
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High SMV is never a problem. If you're seen as out of a girls league all the better because it spreads and someone will try to crack you
/r/askTRP06/08/19 03:20 AM
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