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Nope. That’s what casual sex is for
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:35 PM
5

Did I invalidate their existence?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:34 PM
5

Those people are allowed to exist We just don’t have to share their desires
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:14 PM
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We know other people are horny, especially men We don’t have to share those feelings, nor do we have to prioritize other people’s feelings above our own
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:12 PM
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nope. because the purpose of dating isn’t sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:11 PM
1

Then don’t complain about being lonely, suspect, isolated, and only valued for what you can do for people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 05:36 PM
3

And being moral for a reward is not actual morality
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 05:10 PM
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Nature is saying that what we enjoy doesn’t matter, or, even worse, is counterproductive to reproduction, sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 05:05 PM
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There is when there are way more people who would be your friend than your sex partner Or if you’re complaining about nobody caring about, liking, trusting or wanting to be around you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 04:27 PM
4

Particulars don’t cancel out majorities
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 03:39 PM
10

It’s almost like wanting it matters, how bizarre
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 03:05 PM
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Or, we and they are right
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:44 AM
-1

who said it had to be a perfect filter to be useful ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:42 AM
1

To get sex, the most important thing in the world to men only, so that’s a fair exchange
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:46 PM
0

And yet plenty of men used to sign up for celibacy to get room, board, companionship, purpose and education
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:30 PM
0

Why is it bad to point out something that men freely admit all the time ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:25 PM
-4

Why is it bad to point out what men themselves say all the time ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:24 PM
8

That will not happen, because women don’t want to It’s hilarious that women doing what they want/not doing what they don’t want is such an alien and oppressive thing to you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:18 PM
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It’s oppression to not get what you want, don’t you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:17 PM
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It’s entitlement “Why don’t women put men above themselves? Why don’t women prioritize men like they should?”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:16 PM
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Sorry, we just don’t like it. Maybe if you went to prison you’d understand how it is to be desired by people who are stronger and more violent than you, who don’t give a fuck about you, and who you absolutely don’t want to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:15 PM
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“Why can’t I disregard how women objects feel?!”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:14 PM
-1

We speak the same language. Men are just 10 times hornier and 3 times stronger than women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:11 PM
2

He can think i’m mid (because I am) but thinking he’s unhappy/unsatisfied is the dealbreaker — as it should be for both of us
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:25 PM
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You do know that articles are written to explain and contextualize studies, ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:50 PM
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Men are the worst thing that has happened to me, though. Women have never assaulted, harassed, blackmailed, groomed, threatened or stalked me, even though I’ve been hit on by them many times And men have good reason to do these things (sex), and would like to do worse things because we won’t fuck and obey them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:59 PM
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Trust me, we’re all very aware that men want to rape and enslave women, you guys constantly tell us so
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:58 PM
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Dating only for sex is a big no from me I will also never earn enough to support a family alone, so that’s also a no
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:28 AM
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They talk about fairness There’s no balancing male and female sex drives
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:28 AM
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Men like using women whenever they can, whether consensual or through coercion Chastity doesn’t change that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:17 AM
1

If you want to have shit sex with one person for your entire life, you’re free to do so The rest of us don’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:08 AM
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So? It’s better than having shit sex with the same person for the rest of your life
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:56 AM
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Many men see women’s brains, feelings, consent, desires and rights as obstacles to their bodies 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:39 AM
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Of course it did, having sexual experience and freedom is better than enforced celibacy before lifelong sexual servitude
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:37 AM
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Doesn’t matter. They’re the ones responsible, they’re the ones complaining, and they’re the ones who will be judged
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:36 AM
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Not if he won’t fuck me because of them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:05 AM
1

I’m sure you’re aware of who controls men’s decisions and behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:04 AM
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I’m afraid men’s decisions and behavior are actually way more controllable than the weather
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:03 PM
1

Yes, it’s a common thing to judge and complain about. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:13 PM
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We’re interrogating people who only care about what they want and complain when they don’t get it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:09 PM
-1

But that means the woman is choosing so the term is unmasculine
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:07 PM
0

because men date for sex. women do not
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:04 PM
2

Yeah, but why would you have parents and siblings raise your kid if you already have a partner who doesn’t work ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:39 PM
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“parents and siblings raise their children” I see no oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:50 PM
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Many of them won’t. Like you, for example
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:49 PM
1

Of course we are. Many men are lazy, entitled and put the least effort possible in That’s a lot of men that get filtered out
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:48 PM
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Yay, so there’s no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:47 PM
2

Only if it’s unwanted or you believe that all sex should be for reproduction
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:47 PM
2

Depends on what you consider feminine or unmanly. Plenty of dudes think a man who does romantic stuff, which women love, or does anything remotely nurturing or considerate, is cucked and gay
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:05 PM
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Working men can have those things too, ya know
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:03 PM
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Men do plenty of hating on the feminine and gay men all on their own
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:26 PM
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Nope. We used to call them “turnoffs” Why shouldn’t our thoughts influence our attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:25 PM
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Someone doesn’t know how female pleasure works at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:24 PM
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Still not responsible for others behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:23 PM
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Nobody’s got a problem with the concept The execution, on the other hand, does not fill me with confidence. Having a non working partner is a risk, and men haven’t convinced enough women to take it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:05 PM
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Or a great way to avoid putting in effort. Bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:02 PM
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Men aren’t getting any less horny or violent anytime soon, so 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:01 PM
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The point is we blame women for men’s actions towards them, but don’t blame men for men’s actions towards them It’s hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:00 PM
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So why don’t we tell men to be accountable for socializing with shitty men and women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:20 PM
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Fun for you. You you you you you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:18 PM
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Aka selfishness and entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:18 PM
1

Or just be free to not care about sex as much as you do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:18 PM
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Them being oblivious to that is also selfish and thus unsexy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:17 PM
2

Queer people beg to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:16 PM
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Not my and most women’s experience
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:16 PM
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When they’re so selfish and inconsiderate in their approach and performance, we’re gonna doubt that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:15 PM
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We’re talking about the many men who don’t accept it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:14 PM
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aka, selfishness and lack of empathy and consideration
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:14 PM
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I am just pointing out that it exists, and specifically for that circumstance
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:12 PM
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Don’t forget “fruitful social lives”; Im sure other men are somehow totally not involved with that at all
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:11 PM
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It gets better results, so no, it’s not dumb When many men are looking for sex and interaction with the least possible effort, it’s very smart
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:09 PM
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They are. It’s called alimony
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:08 PM
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why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:08 PM
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https://www.newsweek.com/couples-are-more-likely-get-divorced-if-woman-breadwinner-report-2051780
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:06 PM
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And that’s solely women’s fault, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:03 PM
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Men don’t need to do anything. If they don’t wanna help their spouse and kids, they don’t wanna, and that says everything about them that we need to know I got the message loud and clear
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:16 AM
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Studies of divorce say otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:15 AM
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Because we don’t “low-key love to smash just for the experience/excitement of doing it with a new person, even if it doesn't go anywhere.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:13 AM
8

We’re supposed to be accountable for men treating us badly. If we didn’t voluntarily interact with these men, they wouldn’t treat us badly!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 09:39 PM
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IME, it appears that women are supposed to be taking accountability for the way men treat them It’s fine for men to be shitty and inconsiderate, it’s women who are responsible for interacting with them Anytime you hear about a man treating a woman badly, men talk about “accountability”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 09:38 PM
1

Men also want to be single more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 09:35 PM
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It obviously refers to men who are concerned more with what a woman does for them than her personhood The type of man who proudly declares that he doesn’t care about a woman job, education, politics, interests, friends, achievements, experiences and opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 12:42 AM
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If freedom is so distasteful, you men can give it up first
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 04:37 AM
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I’m looking for a companion and partner, not a worshipper
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:20 AM
1

You generalized all through your post
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:17 AM
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She’s just observing that immigrants like herself are only getting opportunities because citizens don’t wanna, and she’s flabbergasted that they don’t Wouldn’t you be, if you were desperate for better opportunities and saw more fortunate people just —- throw their advantages away ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:06 PM
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She’s just observing that immigrants like herself are only getting opportunities because citizens don’t wanna, and she’s flabbergasted that they don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:02 PM
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Nope. It’s pretty disingenuous to interpret “diversity” as “nobody likes the same thing”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:58 PM
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Your comment was unnecessary
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:17 PM
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Yes, there is uncertainty and diversity, but not absolute. Just like there isn’t absolute uniformity
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:12 PM
1

“some” is the key descriptor
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:09 PM
1

No, they should hire sex workers if they want pussy They will not be very, if at all, successful if they simply ask for attraction based sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:06 PM
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I would assume such a man is not into women, which is totally fine
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:05 PM
0

Actually, a healthy relationship isn’t required, just a legal one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:04 PM
1

Have you read your own OP, which concerns what women do and why, and you being angry about it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:23 PM
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I’m afraid the reason we don’t do oppression anymore is because it is expensive, not because it is moral You might like to compare sexist vs non sexist countries if you don’t believe me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:58 PM
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Every day they’re making threats, it’s as predictable as clockwork
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:57 PM
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Most men already enjoy sex and society. It’s the losers that are whining and threatening, as they always do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:56 PM
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Men necessitate all the protections and restrictions we currrently have, so no, men are expensive to keep around
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:54 PM
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Pretty much. Isn’t entitlement something to witness ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:52 PM
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It’s weird that you think the default state of men is rape, destruction and murder
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:51 PM
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So, do it or we’ll murder/enslave/oppress you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:50 PM
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It’s relevant if your goal is to date a RP guy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:25 PM
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Of course we do. Why wouldn’t men want the same results for way less effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:18 PM
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We have, and men weren’t on board with equal labor at home More men than women are against the second best solution, UBI/wealth redistribution The solution men want is women doing what men want, while women do not agree, so there is not much to work with anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:16 PM
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Because what other people think and do affect and matter to me Especially in interpersonal relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:14 PM
1

Women are a better authority on our experiences and motivations than you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:09 PM
1

My experiences, what women say, what men say, and reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:28 PM
1

why?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:27 PM
1

People’s opinions affect what they do, did you know ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:17 PM
1

It does. A lot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:15 PM
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No, other people do, especially men And the correct frequency is “rarely”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:51 PM
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No. but men do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:50 PM
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Unlike relationships, sex damage is always lifetime. N counts are permanent
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:39 PM
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I didn’t say always, or that all men are desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:28 PM
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Yes, that is solved by not approaching
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:20 PM
0

Or, men are just shitty at those things/don’t want to do them My dad was sensitive and lower earning, and he was a lazy flake, as were several men in my family
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:36 PM
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Because I want to fuck men, and fucking is part of dating and relationships And men are fine approaching me, so I don’t have to even consider fucking women. There’s no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:32 PM
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People will have opinions on calling everyone who disagrees with you a liar
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:30 PM
0

It’s not dumb if you want to submit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:29 PM
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Sorry, i’m free to think whatever I want, especially about the things that happen to me personally I know that is galling and horrible to you, how dare we have such rights
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:27 PM
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It’s funny that you seem to think that women don’t experience sexual attraction Maybe sex isn’t a mutually desired activity to you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:25 PM
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If I wanted to fuck women I would. I don’t, at all
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:23 PM
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Nope. Since sex is bad for women and relationships are good for men, being pumped and dumped is way worse than being in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:21 PM
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Sounds like oppression that you made up completely in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:20 PM
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Not wanting to fuck women is unfortunately a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:19 PM
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Getting a date, sure. Dating successfully, no
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:46 AM
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Of course they will. Women are obsessed with relationships — that’s most of what they watch, read and talk about —- and also babies and family They can be just as indiscriminate and desperate for relationships as men are for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:43 AM
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And calling people who disagree with you liars is contentless rhetoric and bad faith debate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:39 AM
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There’s plenty of women in the comments are agreeing with me, and you’re dismissing them by saying they’re lying and it’s a cop out — aka contentless rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:38 AM
0

If you’re going to stereotype all women as a monolith, a single dissenting woman disproves your absolutism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:55 AM
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Every date is a hookup for men but not women? News to me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:41 AM
0

Yup, and that’s been my experience So your point is disproven
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:36 AM
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Nope, it’s very logical. If a man wants to, he will
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:35 AM
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If a man wants to, he will I want the man who wants to I certainly can’t force a man to want to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:33 AM
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Why not ? Men do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:31 AM
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I don’t miss opportunities with men who care enough to put in effort And it gives me better results
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:18 AM
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You give them more opportunities to lie, obviously You can protest all you want, our experiences with men are pretty instructive. As noted in a different post today, men are looking to put the least amount of effort in, and approaching plays right into that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:58 PM
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Nope, not in my experience. I learned how to choose better Logically, desperate people will take anything, men are very vocal about that, and women don’t want to be anything They also love to tell us how casual sex is so much more desired than relationships, so why would I do anything to make that more likely ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:15 PM
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that’s funny, because any gander at art or history will tell you that tastes change immensely. Three humdred years ago, a woman who looked like a contemporary model (skinny boy body, sharp angular face) would not have been considered ideal at all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:14 PM
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Of course men should, because they want casual sex way, way more than women do, and lie to get it No woman has to lie about wanting a relationship to get casual sex, while men protest that they can’t be honest about wanting casual sex so they have to lie about wanting a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:09 PM
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When I just want sex I do approach I don’t want dominant men for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:08 PM
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I wouldn’t, because they’re usually selfish cheaters I’d love to date an actor, athlete, ceo or surgeon for a short time, not for years. Just to see what its like
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:42 PM
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This makes sense if you assume that men find women boring, frivolous, weird, and unrelateable It also explains why men insist they don’t care about a woman’s job, education, politics, interests, achievements, opinions or experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:40 PM
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The point is that men are happy to call men rapists, until we treat them like the very thing they say they are My dad was constantly telling me that men are rapist horndogs who would treat me poorly and take advantage of me the second I let them, then wondered why I didn’t date or get married right away
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:36 PM
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bisexual is not straight
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:04 PM
-1

Why would they care about what isn’t important
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:28 AM
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I wouldn’t trust most men to sahd at the level a woman could so no This is supported by what I see of the sahds irl — the ones who can parent at the level and intensity of their female counterparts….are almost always gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:23 AM
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Proof of women getting more hate online than men directly contradicts OPs claim that it’s cool and nbd
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:18 AM
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much like romantic breakups, any reason is valid, and any reason can be judged
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:07 AM
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It does, because that’s why I provided proof Mhm, sure you can, very convincing; you’ll also totally kick my ass if we had the right conditions, and beat my record if you had your running shoes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:58 PM
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Perhaps review what the term “objective” means
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:36 PM
-1

Yes. We’re never going to be gay men in women’s bodies Sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:35 PM
0

I’m afraid most men treat women as obstacles to the female body, not as humans worth befriending How can you “have fun” with the thing that’s preventing and hindering you from getting laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:31 PM
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In other words, consideration and caring
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:30 PM
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Of course we think men are people. Men complain about women treating them like friends and acquaintances all the time What we don’t think of men as, and what men wish we would, are sex objects
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:26 PM
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Perhaps you should look up the meaning of the word “erogenous” before you say it has nothing to do with sex and the fact that you are objectifying a body part
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:24 PM
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The original comment was about reproduction, stay on topic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:22 PM
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Men could require that of women for “respect and survival”. But they don’t If it’s so easy, you guys do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:22 PM
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Since you have nothing better, there is no reason to dismiss it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:21 PM
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Money is objective, bonding time is not — perhaps read the title of the post again
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:20 PM
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Why would women have an aversion if it’s “totally reasonable”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:04 PM
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That’s subjective, and plenty of men don’t want or enjoy time with their kids and prefer to pay mom off. Money is objective
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:00 PM
1

Not “useless”, since you don’t have better
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:48 PM
2

So? The man usually makes more and women are financially worse off after divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:46 PM
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Nope. I provided proof. Find better if that’s not good enough for you, otherwise that proof stands
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:19 PM
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let’s see the data
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:18 PM
2

Yup, and men’s jobs and caring less is also a choice completely within their control
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:10 PM
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And if you don’t have proof to the contrary my proof is sufficient
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:48 PM
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let’s see your superior data then
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:39 PM
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Of course they are and you agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:38 PM
2

Yup, because they’re oppressed and hated more than men https://neurosciencenews.com/women-hates-speech-judgement-9638/amp/ https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/12/the-dark-side-of-guardian-comments
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:24 PM
3

The post was about who has it objectively better, and money and power/authority are pretty objective
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:16 PM
3

Irrelevant deflection, your comment was about behavior not physiology
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:50 PM
5

Doesn’t matter. Their lives are still better If men won’t help or care for their own kids and family, that’s a choice to make life better for themselves and worse for women and their families
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:44 PM
1

Doesn’t matter. Their lives are still better If men won’t help or care, that’s a choice to make life better for themselves and worse for women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:44 PM
3

Yup. And it exists
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:35 PM
-2

Yes, because single dudes are not happy sexless
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:31 PM
3

If I was a “biological creature” I’d have a dozen kids with a dude that looked just like me, within a few miles of where I was born. I’d also most likely be really fat
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:30 PM
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All of it is the result of the libido and violence/rape disparity, which I assure you that pretty much every human with a functioning brain is aware of
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:27 PM
1

Yup, so there’s tons of downsides
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:25 PM
1

Nope. We still earn less on average, which is why more of us aren’t single or single parents. That’s what the wage gap is — the motherhood/caregiver penalty
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:24 PM
0

They will have to decide if the truth is more important than advice Even if you are in an approved space or have paid a sex worker, it doesn’t give you carte blanche to behave however you want
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:00 PM
3

Nope. That’s called prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:58 PM
3

Nope. Men make more money on average, because most women are stuck doing free labor and hurt their earning power to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:56 PM
5

Wealth and power say otherwise And your standards are subjective not objective In other words, you’re wrong on all accounts
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:33 PM
1

I assure you that hating on men gets you hate from men, which such women find threatening and distressing, since they are very enmeshed with their media
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:23 AM
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The sex drive provides plenty of incentive all on its own
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:21 AM
2

How is this different from “simps have ruined the dating world”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:21 AM
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They are voluntary agreements, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:21 AM
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People are not transparent about their motives and desires regarding many things. And when they are, they don’t all want the same thing I’m afraid uncertainty is the price you’re going to have to pay for free will that is why advice is advice, not the rule or guarantee you seek
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:28 AM
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Then they should say so in their profiles and during dating. “I’m open to relationships but I’d rather just pump and dump you quickly”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:37 PM
1

we do if we want babies and most of us do there’s a lot between broke and rich And even broke guys don’t like being broke
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:41 PM
3

it is if the goal is marriage and kids, which it is for the vast majority of women physical attraction is based on the physical, and it is the most important part of attraction, according to men because sex is the most important part of the relationship, to men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:12 PM
9

Entitlement is a helluva drug
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:11 PM
1

Women aren’t the ones comparing the opposite sex to things and objects and talking about using them 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:10 PM
1

it’s indeed not great that women won’t split the bill because men are untrustworthy and like to use is for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:04 PM
5

They know. They expect us to do what they want anyway, aka entitlement, and get mad when we won’t prioritize them over ourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:03 PM
2

The right one will be indicated by accepting his request why are you opposed to men doing the very thing that wil get them what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:03 PM
3

It is. And it makes a huge difference
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:01 PM
2

of course they do. not being the boss/master is against their interests and the natural order
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:00 PM
13

hey, at least they were honest, both about wanting it and not giving a shit about you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:57 PM
0

being broke usually is and most people don’t have a choice as to what they’re attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:42 PM
3

Nope. Prostitution is fee for service, not opportunity or compensation or screening
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:07 AM
1

I don’t think self protection and interest is prostitution No more than wanting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:45 AM
3

And risk management/harm reduction
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:30 AM
1

If you base reality off tiktok, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:03 AM
1

I find them utilitarian, as in they don’t see any use for women other than sex. If we don’t put out, why bother interacting with women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:01 AM
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In my case, it was because they offended me. It’s very easy to, because men apparently love saying and doing rude, ageist, sexist, lewd, racist, antisemitic or xenophobic things
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:58 AM
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Men value sex way more than women, so it’s fair
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:58 AM
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Oh yes, we all know how much men love ugly, fat or old female bodies. It’s not like you’ve made up tons of insults specifically for them like hag, hambeast, landwhale, fatty, uggo, butterface, hog, piggy, crone, bat, old lady….
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:06 PM
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being abused doesn’t change your appearance, so no being abused isn’t a choice, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:07 PM
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Doesn’t change my point. Go ahead and convey that opinion openly if you like I will judge you for it, and I’m sure I won’t be the only one
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:43 PM
2

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:41 PM
3

Men love women’s bodies, not their minds. Men are extremely happy to hate on women for anything — being free, shallow, unattractive, old, fat, opinionated, emotional, confident, unconfident, fearful, picky, greedy, frivolous, lazy, prudish, and most of all, slutty
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:39 PM
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It’s socially acceptable to condemn or judge people for having trauma? No, I don’t think so
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:37 PM
9

Women are way more likely to outlive their partners than men 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:36 PM
1

“Hoooooo-yah!”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:44 PM
1

Usually in response to complaining and threats
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:39 PM
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He can do it at any time and she doesn’t have to know This isn’t about the truth It’s about telling the woman, to her face, that he thinks she is a lying cheater, just like women in general are
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:00 AM
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it’s not that weird when you think about it — he’s post-hoc justifying age gap relationships before
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:58 AM
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Congratulations, i have never seen this rationale for age gap relationships before A truly novel argument
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:57 AM
2

K, then no kids
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:25 PM
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it’s not silly at all. kids are the most effective way to control women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:23 PM
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They can be if the alternative is slavery and suffering and injustice
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:34 PM
2

So you want sex, or else don’t want your companion to have it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:33 PM
1

It’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:32 PM
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Nope. I don’t have to accept your refutation if it’s off topic, irrelevant, or just wrong The point is why men have to approach, and a minority of men can cause it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:32 PM
5

Not if it’s coerced and disliked, especially by the majority of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:37 PM
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It is hard to never express your thoughts and feelings People who truly think they should have something rarely have perfect self control and repression of that thought
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:36 PM
2

Sure they can. They can promise to not have any people over. Or you can both have people over Happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:35 PM
2

Having a single roommate is a very common and achievable situation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:50 PM
6

Why is that expectation “moral”? Why should you expect a wife for existing ? Why are women wrong for not wanting men they don’t want?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:45 PM
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You are unlikely to perfectly suppress such feelings forever Who said you have to express everything? But frustration, resentment and anger are very common in guys who aren’t having the amount of sex they want, especially compared to other men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:44 PM
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You’re not going to find normal, boring looking people in movies, so that was a bad faith standard to begin with Characters in those movies had jobs within the norms. None of them are billionaires, models, actors, superheroes, royalty, historical figures, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:13 PM
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I didn’t. Those examples were all legit for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:52 PM
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Women who have been in such relationships say otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:50 PM
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AI gfs will solve the problem of having to interact with terrible women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:50 PM
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And you don’t have to marry to get that Hence situationships and unmarried cohabitation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:46 PM
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Entitlement is in the mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:44 PM
1

The subject of the post, of course — why women still want and have committed relationships with men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:41 PM
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The system was oppressive, which men are very good at due to their greater strength, aggression, horniness and lack of caring They are also very motivated to oppress because it gets them what they want better and more efficiently than anything else Now that they can no longer oppress, many men are unhappy with relationships and women, because they cannot get what they want from them We can trust now. We just can’t oppress, and oppression removes the entire need for trust
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:39 PM
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lol, so? who cared about that In any case, higher numbers of marriages depends on lower amounts of rights. And women quite logically don’t like that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:24 PM
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In a relationship? With what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:23 PM
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Women want and are interested in relationships. We watch, think about, read about and talk about them more than any other subject, way more than men do So much so that men complain about women’s fixation on it and call it boring and frivolous
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:23 PM
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I’m afraid sexual attraction and bonding is very “meaningful” if you’re not going to be “roommates”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:21 PM
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Not in relationships. They were perfectly happy fucking whoever and ordering them around
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:18 PM
1

Nope. We’re in relationships with men, and talk about them all the time. Because that’s what interests us
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:11 PM
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I don’t care what self serving thing you asked for, those movies have relationships, which is what interests women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:26 PM
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People prefer to do what they want rather than what they don’t And in the past, women did a lot of things they didn’t want to do There’s no trust if it wasn’t your decision in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:24 PM
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They all have relationships, so yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:20 PM
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ooooo, thanks; didn’t realize that sub went off topic https://whenwomenrefuse.tumblr.com
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:59 PM
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They have already, it’s called child support
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:54 PM
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Nope. That’s plenty of movies about relationships, the thing women are interested in
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:53 PM
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Nah, they just want to be worshipped instead of the assholes. Women experience the same thing — watching mean, shallow, slutty, greedy attention-seekers get rewarded instead of nice, normal women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:40 AM
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Then we don’t have to believe or care about anything men say either
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:39 AM
1

Just in the last 3 years Project Hail Mary Toy story Zootopia How to train your dragon The fall guy Upgraded Rye lane No hard feelings Somebody That I used to know
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:31 AM
1

“Regular dude has extraordinary adventures and gains skill for woman reward” is one of the most common entertainment tropes out there
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:37 AM
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They don’t care about that. And don’t want to either
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:28 AM
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You can pick the top movies and tv shows and most of them have relationships. Those are examples
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:02 AM
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Great, then they are monogamous roommates
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:01 AM
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Nope, it was not refuted. Your reasoning makes no sense, and my past statements have nothing to do with my argument here Minority behaviors affecting majority behaviors is the only issue of contention A minority of people steal, but we lock our doors A minority of people vandalize, but we have fences and security cameras A minority of people kill and assault, but we have law enforcement A minority of men rape, but women are paranoid about safety A minority of people lie, but we have contracts A …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:00 AM
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It’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:00 AM
5

If that were true, you’d be happy with platonic friends
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:00 AM
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Because they want it, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:59 AM
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There’s relationships in pretty much every type of media
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:57 AM
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Men want commitment; why wouldn’t we?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:48 PM
1

Men want commitment, so why wouldn’t we ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:47 PM
6

Yes, so you seek sex, not just “enjoying their company” and “respect”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:45 PM
3

There’s plenty of novels, movies, tv shows, web series and gossip about normal people
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:43 PM
3

Sure they do, if they are single and there are no other roommates
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:42 PM
2

So? Still about relationships and romance
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:16 PM
3

You could achieve all those things with a single roommate
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:15 PM
3

I’m pretty sure you seek sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:13 PM
2

Nope. That’s what women want and obsess over — relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:12 PM
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Of course they do. Women are obsessed with relationships and romance. That’s the vast majority of what they fantasize about, read, listen, watch and discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:06 PM
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edited
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:00 PM
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That’s single parents, of which the vast majority are women. When you adjust for the fact that 80% of single parents are women, men are more likely to kill their own child than women When both parents are present, the only time women kill equally is when the child is one day old https://jaapl.org/content/35/1/74
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:46 PM
2

why would their demands not be the same as yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:31 PM
0

r/whenwomenrefuse
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:25 PM
5

Nope. She has to have sex with you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:06 PM
11

The data does not agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:48 PM
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The ones here disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:48 PM
0

Not to men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:24 PM
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People are just spoiled
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:17 PM
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Then why did you say “people” instead of “men” in your post?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:01 PM
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Not if they don’t get sex, which is always what men complain about, way more than purpose or emotional fulfillment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:30 AM
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This isn’t the 1850 French court
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:29 AM
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Only a young/single/childless/wealthy person would think that most people have the time and energy for such nonsense It’s actually kind of flattering that you think we do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:19 AM
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I’m not a man, man I just observe what men say…and most of all what they complain about and make excuses for
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:43 PM
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I’m not a man, man I just observe what men say
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:42 PM
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Nope. I said that will get people to think he is “nice” And he will be….if he’s not expecting a reward
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:54 PM
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Yes, of course this isn’t about all men, just the ones who complain that X won’t get them sex so why bother
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:52 PM
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My argument was that your definition of unconditional love was illogical for the reasoning given And since you deflected my reasoning and moved goalposts in response, I reasonably concluded that your definition is incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:32 PM
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I consider myself someone who doesn’t expect a reward for being nice to people
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:31 PM
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I don’t see a man who loves sex being able to love himself if he isn’t having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:30 PM
2

When in doubt, attack the person not the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:43 PM
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I like people who like me and don’t offend me. I’m not looking for a set of skills or a role model
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:42 PM
1

You can tell yourself that, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:41 PM
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And we’re not talking about children. We’re talking about men who want to get laid, the topic of this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:40 PM
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That is what a selfish person would think, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:39 PM
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The men who are complaining aren’t and wouldn’t want to socialize even if they were
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:16 PM
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“Cool story, still murder”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:10 PM
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Nope. That’s precisely why it’s nice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:09 PM
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“damage and murder”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:02 PM
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Understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:01 PM
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Murderous intent, obviously, as reflected in the homicide and choking statistics Yes, exactly. I don’t see a need to change anything, women rightly get punished less because they’re not inflicting as much damage and murder
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:58 PM
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They don’t care what you want, sis, so they’re gonna keep doing it. They will only stop when there’s deterrents
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:55 PM
1

Don’t you think RP men are the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:53 PM
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The difference is in severity based on physical strength and intent Why do we have to do anything about it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:43 PM
1

Where did I say it’s not DV?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:16 PM
1

That wasn’t the question
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:14 PM
1

Her advice/prescription. If it don’t get you puss puss, men won’t do it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:14 PM
1

I’m not a man, man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:12 PM
3

So your conditions are bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:11 PM
1

Where did I say that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:11 PM
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You think most men would be okay with women “being themselves”, aka not dieting, wearing cosmetics or taking care of their appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:10 PM
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Then the vast majority of people are not unconditionally loved, no matter how they were treated after age 4 And you can treat a kid however you want after age 4 and still correctly claim you unconditionally love them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:00 PM
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It won’t. “Inherent worth” won’t get a man laid, so why would they care about it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:59 PM
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Being yourself won’t get you laid, which is the whole problem for men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:57 PM
1

That’s how words work — we use different ones for different things You ignoring that is on you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:56 PM
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And she knows darn well that that’s what men want
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:55 PM
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The annoying thing is that she doesn’t say what “maleness” is. It could be simply “existing while man”. And she also doesn’t say that “love” is romantic love, so you definitely could interpret it that way
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:53 PM
2

That entire quote is a word salad that says nothing useful except “trad masculinity bad”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:52 PM
1

Exactly. That quote is a bunch of nothing. She says we shouldn’t desire harmful traditional masculinity but doesn’t define this “maleness” she talks so much about, except as “humanity” Personally, I don’t believe women’s or even men’s preferences are as deterministic as most theorists portray them as. There’s a lot of diversity in what is and has been considered “desirable” People are just lazy and fall back on excuses and conformity; if you want to, you will
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:50 PM
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Nothing to do about caring and all to do with who is better at lifting, carrying, killing, terrorizing, raping and not getting raped, beaten or pregnant If women were as good at those things as men, we’d put them in wars. But they’re not, they suck at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:43 PM
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But men, especially on PPD, want romantic partners, rendering the whole thing useless
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:41 PM
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What a weird writer. She talks all about maleness but doesn’t tell us what it is, except definitely NOT traditional masculinity Smells like bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:38 PM
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lol, most people don’t find being decent a huge and distasteful burden, or what gets them laid. Sad if you do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:35 PM
1

Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:33 PM
2

She doesn’t tell us what “maleness” is, so whatevs
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:38 AM
1

Denying you want sex when you want sex is worse
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:21 AM
1

I’m quite sure men know whether they want sex or not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:05 AM
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Nope, all of those fall under the purview of “things that cause negative feelings”, which was the condition If you want to make the condition as generic as “feeling bad”, then those are all valid as things that cause discomfort
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:57 AM
1

Either way, we don’t wanna, so it’s a moot point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:40 AM
1

So? If that’s all you got, that wouldn’t make you happy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:30 AM
1

I don’t believe that most people care as little for their friends as you do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:07 AM
2

Emotions which are only satisfied by sex, so same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:30 PM
1

I like my friends as people, and they like me. Why would I do that just because I couldn’t get my rocks off?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:27 PM
1

OP is the one forcing sex into platonism, not me So are all the dudes complaining about the friendzone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:25 PM
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You think men are showing you their true selves? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:24 PM
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You can have emotional connection without sex. People do it all the time in friendships Why bother with friends at all if you don’t care about or feel anything for them ? What a weird way of thinking of friends
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:21 PM
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I’ve had crushes on friends all the time, male and female. I know they’re not attracted to me (gay dude/straight women), or we’re incompatible, or they reject me, and I simply get over it It’s not difficult at all if you like them as people
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:11 PM
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Yup. Sex is always, always more important than anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:10 PM
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What we have now works pretty well, aside from war Which is why, yanno, nobody likes war and its avoided
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:55 PM
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Nope. That’s institutionalized oppression and subjugation, no thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:32 PM
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Men are socially “normalized” and “adjusted” to not be immoral predators. And when society is removed, aka war, it is pretty clear what their true nature is So, to answer your post title — yes to both
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:19 PM
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Both Morality is largely externally enforced. War is pretty clear what happens when it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:15 PM
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Nope, just applying your statement appropriately
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:13 PM
0

Sure. Men should never approach or be turned down ever, of course. Or put in effort, delay gratification, go to the gym, do things at work they don’t want to, or really, do anything at all. Because, ya know, all of those will put you in situations where you could have “negative feelings”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:28 PM
1

“taking into account” and “only caring about “ are not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:27 PM
2

Again, that’s only a problem if it’s all about you you you and you have a toddler level of concern for others and your desires
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:43 PM
6

Lol, you think women don’t complain about men sucking in bed? Buddy, you are going to be in for an unpleasant surprise
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:24 PM
3

Only on PPD are basic concepts like “selfishness isn’t liked” and “humans are social animals” news to people 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:05 PM
3

Selfish, self centered people tend not to be appealing unless they have something people want, but you do you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:48 PM
-1

Totally; it’s so abnormal and dysfunctional for a social species to be social
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:39 PM
2

Hey now, people and especially women love being treated as means to an end, didn’t you know ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:34 PM
4

Of course, it’s logical that people would consider individual selfish desires more virtuous and justified than morals and principles I hope you don’t complain about being lonely 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:24 PM
1

Sure, if your priority is yourself and your feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:11 PM
2

every other post men like to remind us that they will oppress us like back in the old days if we don’t fuck enough or have enough babies
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:02 PM
7

They don’t care what we think, that’s the point
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:35 PM
5

Nope. You don’t give the sex, you aren’t loved
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:34 PM
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why do we need more humans on this planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:00 PM
8

It is for me and most women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:59 AM
10

You really dont see what’s wrong with being subjected to something you don’t like or want ? Why don’t you go to prison to experience how unimportant such things are?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:28 AM
4

Why would a man care about something he doesn’t care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:24 AM
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Love how men think “survival” is all that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:23 AM
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They always deny that part too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:22 AM
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why do we need more humans on this planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:21 AM
1

you can just search this sub for plenty of examples of men letting us know just what they’d like to do to us
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:25 AM
1

Nope. I’m concerned with being blamed for trusting and existing around men, and their behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:43 AM
1

Doesn’t matter when we get blamed for not assuming that men are violent, rapey, dishonest and dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:14 AM
1

Nope, that’s why we get blamed for not assuming men are violent, rapey, dishonest and dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:53 AM
1

Nope. Truth
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:35 PM
-1

That’s not what I’m told I’m told women get run through by dozens of Chads and then deliberately and maliciously trap the kindest and most decent men using lies and paternity fraud into raising kids that are not their own, before cheating on and divorcing them into poverty
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:30 PM
2

Sorry, a punch from a man and from a woman are not the same. And hospitalization rates reflect this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:20 PM
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Nope. Nowhere did I deny male victims and female perps exist
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:12 PM
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Nope. A comparison is not erasure or denial The opposite, in fact Pretending that a beat down from a man and a slap from a woman are equivalent is erasure and denial
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:52 PM
1

Nope. I want to stop pretending that women are as strong and deadly as men No one fears women, not even women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:51 PM
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Comparisons are not erasure. The complete opposite, in fact
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:13 PM
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Nope, stop putting words in my mouth that I explicitly did not say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:13 PM
3

It’s not about their desire It’s about ours; or rather, our lack of it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:12 PM
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The biggest misandrists in my life have always been men Men love telling us how violent, lustful, rapey and oppressive they are, and how they wish they could inflict all those things on us
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:08 PM
2

If you have equal numbers of assaults, but 25% plus involve death or serious injury, vs 5% death or serious injury, which is worse ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:05 PM
6

Women have never liked poverty, hate to break it to you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:04 PM
4

That’s only if you disregard the severity of violence and frequency of murder
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:32 PM
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Men are a protection racket I don’t fear women, at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:27 PM
3

They claim to want to provide and protect and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:41 PM
1

When men say their wives are mean and sexless it’s true and when women say their husbands are lazy and selfish it’s false, is that right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:41 PM
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Nope. It’s largely because of the greedy men who run the world
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:07 PM
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Nope. It’s largely because of the greedy men who run the world
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:07 PM
5

Why wouldn’t we like consent over lack of consent ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:06 PM
1

Nope. Men love telling us how they use us, in porn and in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:05 PM
1

Exactly, you just explained why you care. And that’s just your opinion. Society is fine with men being unaware and selfish, because they are easy to manipulate
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:04 PM
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You care, or you wouldn’t have made this post You do discriminate, otherwise you wouldn’t have specified women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:12 AM
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For many people, especially if you’re not actually after interaction or companionship, whoever cares less wins
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:25 PM
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It’s not, there’s no explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:12 PM
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Nope, it was not refuted. Your reasoning makes no sense, and my past statements have nothing to do with my reasoning here Minority behaviors affecting majority behaviors is the only issue of contention A minority of people steal, but we lock our doors A minority of people vandalize, but we have fences and security cameras A minority of people kill and assault, but we have law enforcement A minority of men rape, but women are paranoid about safety A minority of people lie, but we have contracts A…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:11 PM
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Yay, you made an observation! What does your brain make of that information ? Do you think it supports the assertion that women go for assholes the most ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:01 PM
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Nothing to see above
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:58 PM
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Nope. A minority of people affects a majority Derailments dont change that A minority of people steal, but we lock our doors A minority of people vandalize, but we have fences and security cameras A minority of people kill and assault, but we have law enforcement A minority of men rape, but women are paranoid about safety A minority of people lie, but we have contracts A minority of people have casual sex, but most people try to obtain it A minority of incidents result in injury or harm, but we …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:57 PM
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Yup. Men who are willingly useful are useful Unfortunately they are in the minority
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:45 PM
5

Househusbanding/primary parenting for the men who put in effort. Unhappy marriages, singledom and divorce for those who won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:43 PM
5

You mean bullies, harasssrs, naggers, jerks, assholes, attention seekers and loudmouths? No, I really don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:40 PM
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So, what does your eyes and brain tell you about people who are in relationships ? Are they assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:17 PM
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No, most people are decent to each other, as opposed to being assholes to each other
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:15 PM
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Ok, most. The people that don’t are pretty obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:50 PM
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Why can’t you use your own eyes and brain to verify that kind of thing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:50 PM
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If they remain single, men will complain Why is it ok for men to be selfish and narcissistic but not women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:29 PM
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Nope. You’re the one making the claim, you explain and defend it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:27 PM
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Why can’t you tell if you’re being an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:07 PM
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This is an extremely controversial and reviled opinion in these parts Guess most dudes here do not feel good about being decent 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:05 PM
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Why can’t you be nice to all women ? Or all people, for that matter ? Plenty of guys seem to manage it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:04 PM
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Of course he can, if he’s not doing things with the expectation of a reward. It’s frankly weird that so many men are baffled by doing things that aren’t for your immediate and personal benefit only
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:03 PM
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Nope. Transactionalism is very easy to understand, even animals can comprehend it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:01 PM
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Nope. Because we get punished for doing, as I learned. “Easy” is not a compliment If a woman wants to, she’ll say yes. Because the default is no
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:55 PM
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Ghosted after sex, lazier bfs Women who are easy get low effort, it’s very logical If a man wants to, he will; if he doesn’t, he’ll do the bare minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:26 PM
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Nope. If a man rejects me because of my politics, race, age, looks, etc, that’s good. Because I don’t want someone who doesn’t want me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:15 PM
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Nope. Age gap relationships have lots of problems
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:14 PM
3

Nope. That got me worse outcomes, which was logical Why wouldn’t I choose better?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:12 PM
2

Of course they do. Everyone knows sex is better and more desired for men and doesn’t come with the risk of pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:11 AM
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The best partners are the ones who care enough to initiate
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:09 AM
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Lack of oppression is novel though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:57 AM
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Women haven’t been interested in being nuns and submitting to men for half a century, or perhaps ever, so I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:04 AM
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That option is still there and few want it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:58 AM
1

My response is the same
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:44 AM
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I don’t agree with you, pursuing a minority isn’t usually a good strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:36 AM
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Childish terms for childish minds 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:32 AM
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Men claim to be driven by their dicks and are less caring, empathetic and self aware, so no And sorry, we do not live in a simple little video game
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:18 AM
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That’s just your conspiracy hobby, not real life If we’re talking about self interested people, it’s been proven that men are less charitable, caring and empathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:13 AM
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And side pieces, we know. You guys aren’t exactly subtle about it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:12 AM
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How do you know women haven’t noticed that men are sex obsessed and not very interested in us as people? Because it’s pretty obvious when you interact with men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:24 AM
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Nope. Men can have their incentives and advantages As we can have ours. And our incentive is to not approach
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:24 AM
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Yup, and that’s the difference. It’s a pretty significant one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:49 AM
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Men are led by their dicks so don’t see why they’d be any better at self awareness than women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:48 AM
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Nope, because we have different goals and incentives, as you yourself noted
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:40 AM
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Nope, an explanation is needed, since you’re singling out women to blame
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:39 AM
2

If you aren’t honest about your intentions because it will result in rejection, you are a dishonest user
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:47 PM
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Men think so, I don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:44 PM
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Nope, if someone chooses to be a dishonest user, that’s on them and I will let everyone know
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:43 PM
2

Nope, we all know that dating is for relationships, not sex. Being an exception doesn’t make you the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:35 PM
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Service providers are allowed to reject customers, and not just in sex work. A service is part of a human, not a thing that has no rights
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:34 PM
2

Yup, that’s why you are expected to disclose
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:32 PM
2

Nope, dating is for relationships, not casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:27 PM
2

Most men are in for both, most women are not. Mind the gap
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:09 PM
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Nope, men’s advantage is the the opposite of women’s — they care less about relationships, and so put in less effort to get and maintain them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:59 PM
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not communicating is selfish, and will be judged and criticized especially if you know the person won’t like the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:58 PM
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I already gave it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:37 PM
2

That’s why communication is a thing, as is judgment and criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:35 PM
3

Yes, and so do women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:35 PM
2

Not always, just like when men complain
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:34 PM
3

People who date casually are expected to say so. That’s why apps require intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:33 PM
2

If you don’t care if someone likes you, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:32 PM
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Why should men be given an advantage? The one they already have is wanting a relationship less compared to women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:30 PM
4

If I didn’t want a relationship, I wouldn’t date, I would just fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:30 PM
2

Complaining, nagging and shaming can work. That’s part of why people do it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:28 PM
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So? Experience is the best teacher, and my experience has taught me that men will take whatever. Because, unlike women, they don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:27 PM
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If you’re in it for sex — and many men are — you don’t care about “crippling loneliness” Plenty of men are unmotivated to converse — it’s a major complaint of women, after lack of motivation to commit and lack of motivation to care
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:26 PM
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Of course it does. Men are happy to waste the time of women who are serious. Happened to me multiple times, and I learned my lesson well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:24 PM
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They want sex and enjoy sex more, and aren’t condemned for having it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:22 PM
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People can complain about whatever they want No law against it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:21 PM
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It explains why women have less motivation Sex is sufficient motivation for men. Not so for women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:03 PM
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Wrong, those are complimentary, not contradictory
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:51 PM
2

Most men want sex, not partnerships or conversations. Especially from women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:50 PM
2

Nope. Whoever has more to lose and less to gain has less incentive. That would be women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:41 PM
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Yes. Because we have less to gain and more to lose It’s simple motivation and incentives
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:40 PM
2

Nope. Whoever has more to lose and less to gain has less incentive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:39 PM
2

Nope. Whoever has more to lose and less to gain has less incentive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:39 PM
4

It’s easier because men are easy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:39 PM
1

It’s even simpler — whoever has less to gain and more to lose has less motivation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:39 PM
2

Nope. Whoever has more to lose and less to gain has less incentive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:38 PM
3

It’s very easy to understand: whoever has less to gain and more to lose does less
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:05 PM
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Nope. Minority actions affect majority behaviors, as I showed in many common examples
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:03 PM
1

Nothing to see
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:03 PM
1

Nothing to see
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:31 PM
1

Nope. Minority actions affect majority behaviors, as I showed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:45 PM
1

I can’t see what isn’t there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:44 PM
2

So? That’s why men should care, because the sex dispenser cares
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:24 PM
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Nope, I don’t need to do that, I have provided plenty of examples of a minority affecting the majority
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:23 PM
1

That was a question not a statement
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:07 PM
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Yup, so they don’t want to transact. And thus they won’t get the sex from the sex dispenser
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:06 PM
2

The many men complaining about having to pay, intiate, be attractive, interact, wait and put in effort
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:59 PM
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A minority of people steal, but we lock our doors A minority of people vandalize, but we have fences and security cameras A minority of people kill and assault, but we have law enforcement A minority of men rape, but women are paranoid about safety A minority of people lie, but we have contracts A minority of people have casual sex, but most people try to obtain it Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:55 PM
1

There’s nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:52 PM
2

Why can’t women npcs see that male npcs are npcs
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:51 PM
3

Sorry, lying is a very common thing. Men themselves admit they wouldn’t get laid if they were up front about what they wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:50 PM
1

But men don’t want to transact
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:49 PM
1

Nope. A minority of people doing things has an effect
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:49 PM
1

There’s nothing above
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:48 PM
3

Again, since both genders do it, why focus only on women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:58 PM
3

Nope. Casual sex is for casual sex. Dating is for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:58 PM
2

Bingo bango Check out his post history
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:56 PM
7

And what about men? What do they want and seek to gain ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:55 PM
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Or, you’re just making stuff up
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:50 PM
3

So why single out women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:48 PM
4

Easy, because men lie, and because dating is for relationships. You don’t need to date to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:48 PM
2

Why should women want sex/relationships with men who don’t care about them ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:47 PM
1

Trying to use “expert” words. Very interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:46 PM
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For attention, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:45 PM
4

That’s sad that that’s your only care for half the population, including people in your community
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:48 PM
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Sorry, we don’t like being used for sex, and we never will If you want to be liars and users, that’s your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:45 PM
5

We’ll stop caring about our self interest when men stop caring about sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:41 PM
2

Let’s hear your reason, so people will be convinced
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:40 PM
2

So are women NPCs or not ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:39 PM
24

That is how he operates, yes. He’s said himself he’s not looking to debate, just give his opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:38 PM
9

Then don’t complain when all women fuck, date, marry, trust and like men even less
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:35 PM
1

sounds like you’re just using the word to cover up the fact that you have no idea what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:34 PM
9

I’m just saying that doing that will make the sex source dry up, so men will be back to not having casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:11 PM
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Then women will become even more reluctant to sleep with average and below men after getting used repeatedly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:45 PM
32

How are men not self centered and narcissistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:42 PM
1

why use the word “optimize” three times in your explanation if you have no idea what it entails?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:41 PM
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optimize how?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:31 AM
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How would they solve them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:37 AM
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Nope. The law is not absolute nor assuming perfection
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:15 AM
2

Yes It’s not all men’s fault though; they’re socialized to not serve or defer or sacrifice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:15 AM
1

Now we have to tell men what a friend is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:08 PM
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And then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:06 PM
1

Nope. A majority isn’t required to affect behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:13 PM
1

If you don’t show proof, it doesn’t exist and you haven’t
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:12 PM
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It’s not dating, it’s fee for service
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:06 PM
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Who says there has to be one standard or decision ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:05 PM
1

It is, because a majority of men aren’t required to have an effect
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:52 PM
1

It’s not, and that’s why you have no proof. It doesn’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:47 PM
1

I can’t scroll to something that doesn’t exist 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:27 PM
-1

It’s not supposed to, it’s supposed to feel like effort and investment — both things men don’t like
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:13 PM
1

Not getting what you want and think you’re owed is plenty of reason; embellishment isn’t needed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:11 PM
2

Nope. That was social conformity and economic dependence
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:59 AM
1

That’s because we have decided that relationships and sex should be voluntary and consensual
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:57 AM
1

That’s a biological constant No one said the market had to be identical or uniform, just free
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:49 AM
1

That’s not relevant. The market is for sex and relationships, and looks are a very important part of that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:30 AM
1

Yup. Rich people are allowed in the market, as are poor people If we’re all the same that’s called communism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:25 AM
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No thirst, no “value” Nope. The market is free. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything and anyone can participate Different desirabilities are allowed in the market; that is indeed the whole point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:35 AM
2

I never reported my many sexual assaults, as most women don’t, just as the vast majority of rapes go unreported
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:25 PM
0

We are talking about “crime” and women’s “reputations” have always been way more important and vulnerable than men’s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:18 PM
1

That’s the assumption. If there’s a time limit, it should be conveyed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:17 PM
1

Nope. You made a claim, you back it up And you haven’t
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:37 PM
1

Nope. If “men rape” is fine, “men lie” is fine
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:36 PM
1

Your condition is arbitrary and was not explained
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:30 PM
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In dating it is very relevant; not so much in other contexts. Men are just way thirstier than women, it’s nothing complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:35 PM
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I see nothing You yourself admitted that men are not only valued for and by sex, so man vs human was already addressed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:15 PM
1

I see nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:14 PM
1

“and let her think otherwise”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:11 PM
1

Nope, it’s perfectly fine
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:10 PM
1

Nope, no reasons were given. Things that don’t exist can’t be discussed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:09 PM
6

Selfishness is very human and common
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:09 PM
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I can. It’s called using someone for your own benefit It is very easy to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:08 PM
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Why would they give a shit about someone they are using ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:07 PM
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Not at all. Considering how easily women could cheat and kill or abuse men, women or children, we simply don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:47 PM
-1

And what about the wimminz?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:38 PM
1

Nope. General terms are used all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:34 PM
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Nope. You just compare value for other things and repeat the same two claims over and over again. No reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:34 PM
2

Bro…you’re talking to and sexualizing other bros. Or AIs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:49 PM
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Why? Because you want the other person to like and enjoy sex with you, so that they might do it again, obviously Edit: and of course this is about a sex worker, who doesn’t actually want to have sex with you 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:07 PM
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Nope, the general term is fine to describe existence
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:48 AM
1

Yes, and you have not explained why it’s necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:47 AM
0

Are you speaking on behalf of everyone when you say that relationships that don’t have a desired outcome are useless, or just yourself ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:24 AM
1

And it’s not. “Men rape” doesn’t mean all men rape
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:12 AM
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Yes, but we’re not talking about women here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:11 AM
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I dunno, what ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:11 AM
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Nope. From the beginning I disagreed that having sex is the only form of value, and you have not provided any reasoning as to why
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:11 AM
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Nope. Men lie to get sex, so women require them to put in effort. It makes perfect sense, as a conditional
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:07 AM
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People act in their own interest. And blaming women is definitely in men’s interest
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:13 AM
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It is not possible because biology is a thing. Men will always pose a physical and sexual threat to me that women do not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:11 AM
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You kinda do. This post and all your comments are about you you you, and you’re upset that the majority don’t behave like the minority groups you’re part of. And you want people to be fair to you; why should they?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:09 AM
-1

Are you all women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:07 AM
1

That is a true statement, and sufficient to affect women’s expectations and behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:05 AM
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I don’t need to ask a question when “men who are sexually rejected are not valued as men” and “sex is necessary but not sufficient” is your reply to everything Those are your personal conditions, not reasoning, and not accepted by anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:00 AM
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So, you are a minority, frustrated that you’re not the majority So mysterious why that is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:15 AM
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I don’t think any of my failed relationships were pointless, especially because I didn’t waste that much time in them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:13 AM
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Sure they may be common, but people communicate and agree about it. If people lie, they get judged I don’t see what the good getting angry that the world isn’t catering to you will do. People don’t like being told what to do, especially when they don’t want to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:12 AM
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Looks are a merit, always. A free market is also allowed to decide what things are attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:09 AM
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So no, it’s not using the same government stats that I cited. That was also about money and decision making, not division of labor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:07 AM
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And their source is……?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:48 AM
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Nope. Casual sex is casual sex, and dating is dating If you’re going to go against the norms, you’re expected to communicate this People can suck or change their mind, that is the price of freedom I’ve been burned, and don’t expect society to do any policing unless actual crimes were committed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:45 AM
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Presently we are not oppressed, yes, so it is a meritocracy. We are all, regardless of gender, free to date or not date, by whatever standards are legal How will it “come back to us”?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:42 AM
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*if one can consistently attract That is the point of contention. If you’re complaining, you’re probably not consistently attracting
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:26 AM
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Women can’t stop it from being a meritocracy, any more than men can, because dating is voluntary and consensual
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:13 AM
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Nope. Comparing men to engineers doesn’t matter when men can be valued by nonsexual things
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:09 AM
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Exactly. “Men rape” is true. So is “men lie” And it affects women’s expectations and standards, which is the topic of this post
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:08 AM
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Show this contradictory data then
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:46 PM
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Yup, and value can be for men as well
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:34 PM
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Yup, because a majority/generality isn’t required to affect behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:34 PM
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Nope, that is the Pew/ATUS data.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:33 PM
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You didn’t convey it because there is none
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:40 PM
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Yes, you can say “men lie” and “men rape” and “men steal” and “men cheat” and “men assault”, and it’s all true
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:39 PM
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Fortunately, that is a minority scenario https://www.prb.org/news/mothers-day/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5458415/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:34 PM
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Above are the same two assertions that sexually rejected men cannot be valued as men and sex is necessary but not sufficient to be valued as a man, and no explanation why I can easily quote what you said, but you cannot even convey your own reasoning, because there was none
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:24 PM
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Yup, lying and rape are both minority behaviors that affect general behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:22 PM
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Nope. As you yourself noted, “men rape” doesn’t mean “all or most men rape”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:20 PM
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So, nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:19 PM
1

So what’s the problem, now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:07 PM
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No, it wasn’t, which is why you can’t even explain it in anything other than the two sentences I already quoted
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:01 PM
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Nope, “men” doesn’t mean “all” or even “most” It’s merely the amount sufficient to have an effect
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:57 PM
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Nope, I see nothing except the two assertions without proof
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:56 PM
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Yup, they do. And that’s why they have to initiate and pay
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:43 PM
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If there were examples and reasons you can quote them. But there aren’t, so you won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:42 PM
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I think that they don’t like us or want us to do what they want instead of what we want
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:29 PM
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They’re not interested in what women think. They just want pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:28 PM
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Men can do whatever, and we are free to disagree with, dislike and divorce them for doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:21 PM
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For you. Other women may think differently
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:18 PM
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And yet, many manage to 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:18 PM
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Doesn’t matter — nobody fears women or gets blamed for not treating women as dangerous I certainly don’t, and I’m not even a man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:17 PM
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I assure you that no one will care if you date a 36-40 year old woman And I would just buy some sex if I were you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:05 AM
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Yup, that’s the whole point of posts
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:01 AM
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The thread is a discussion of the post topic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:58 AM
2

Nope. That’s the topic of the post
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:59 AM
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Nope. We’re having a discussion about men’s motivations and decisions, and how they are voluntary
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:42 AM
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I’m not taking about reality but opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:41 AM
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It’s relevant when comparing desires
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:39 AM
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It’s not. It’s a choice to put pussy on a pedestal Even red pill acknowledges this. It’s actually a major part of their worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:39 AM
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We don’t want a bottom level man, just like you don’t want bottom level women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:27 AM
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A woman. You have read the post, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:26 AM
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And the answer is the same as before, to get what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:18 AM
2

Of course we do. Looks aren’t natural or effortless, nor is filtering
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:17 AM
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In any case, the same principle applies — equality wasn’t inspired by morality but by laws
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:09 AM
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It’s not dumb shit at all. If men won’t put in any effort, why should we ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:55 PM
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Why not ? It’s the same for women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:37 PM
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If they can complain about it, they can change it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:46 PM
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Of course it’s of concern if it can be changed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:21 PM
2

Oh, cuz there’s no racism anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:10 PM
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Whoever asks for divorce is the disadvantaged one; advantaged parties tend not to end things that are in their favor And guess which gender that is, overwhelmingly Also nope on post divorce https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5992251/ Women are poorer after divorce, but happier, proving that they are the disadvantaged ones
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:02 PM
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Nope. Getting a relationship, sure; once in it, nope
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:28 PM
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I don’t, because history. Where’s your proof ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:14 PM
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There’s no double standard — always siding with the disadvantaged is consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:12 PM
0

Nope. The male ideal is a harem of virgins — all for them, none for anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:11 PM
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Since men had no problem fucking and commanding women who had little or no choice in the matter, pre laws, I’d say yes Because men have NEEDS, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:08 PM
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Thats what the evidence shows. Men didn’t stop treating women like servants and inferiors until they were forced to by law, and I’m quite sure they would again if laws were removed Which is why so many are trying to remove laws
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:33 PM
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If morality doesn’t convince them, the only option is force or coercion. And if that’s the case, they are not people worth interacting with anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:28 PM
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You don’t have to, but you have been and are still hurting and oppressing us so women don’t think we have to either, and have a stronger case
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:24 PM
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You guys go first. We’ve had to take it for millennia
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:17 PM
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So? Doesn’t stop men from judging and hatin’
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:11 PM
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Men hate sluts but want sex 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:45 PM
1

Women get judged on their worth, why can’t men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:45 PM
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That men do it more than women, and complain about it more, and should stop
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:44 PM
1

Why can’t we just not date ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:41 PM
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Women only have endless options because men freely give them to them Men could change that any time they want
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:08 PM
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What does that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:04 AM
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Not true. Men also offer companionship, money, social status and family, things which are tremendously important to women, way more important than sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:50 AM
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I am talking about what men think, not reality “women have inherent value” “women have endless options” “women live life on easy mode”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:49 AM
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I’m not saying it’s reality, it’s just what men tell themselves “women are inherently valued” (yes, for sex, by you)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:47 AM
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That’s the narrative men have
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:46 AM
2

What nakedly self serving advice
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:46 AM
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Men are as good as they are held accountable for being
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:44 AM
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It’s not a part of a general expectation that we should be dominant and prioritized because we are inherently superior and “built society”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:43 AM
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Not all of us are up for doing all the work, and rightfully so
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:41 AM
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Nope, there were no examples and no men agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:27 AM
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Nope. I was talking about why men are expected to put in effort, the topic of this post And a majority of men don’t have to be sex users for this to be the motivation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:26 AM
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Effort
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:25 PM
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Quote me, since you made the claim about me, or you’re a liar and defamer
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:24 PM
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The point of contention is that women don’t have to do anything It’s about “fairness”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:06 PM
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oh, where?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:36 PM
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You call it free dinners, I say necessary investment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:57 PM
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I see men wanting “fairness” more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:58 PM
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You can. There’s always a risk, thankfully
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:56 PM
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Yes, women ignore men at their peril, and of course get blamed for doing so if anything happens
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:06 AM
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Nope. Nothing about looks there
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:37 AM
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I’m not looking to agree with you, for the reasons I already gave
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:52 AM
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We do. We’re not ignoring you — we’re deliberately avoiding drawing your attention. Because interaction is sometimes taken as an invitation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:51 AM
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Yup, that’s why I’m not friendly to men. Because interaction is an invitation to a minority of men, as experience has taught me and most women. The barista is *totally* into you, uh huh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:49 AM
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I can’t believe you would let a man you’re not attracted to do all that for you I’d be paying him back, because that’s what I’d do if he’d been a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:46 AM
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That’s why it is directed at red pill, the men who are unhappy, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:44 AM
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Judging by how much more often and quickly men remarry, how much more they commit suicide after divorce and how few friends and social relationships men have compared to women, you might wanna rethink that assumption
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:42 AM
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Yes. At work only
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:12 AM
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Nope, since we have jobs. Men won’t do their share of helping at home, which will make us happy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:10 AM
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You might want to look up the legal definition of sexual harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:07 AM
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Plenty of men complain about standards, fairness, hypergamy and not being chosen, so it clearly isn’t okay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:06 AM
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Men still affect our lives and physical wellbeing even if we don’t center them. They insist upon themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:03 AM
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Because that work isn’t respected, of course, and now we also have jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:01 AM
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Anger, contempt and frustration are emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:41 AM
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Nope, no daddy’s girl wants to be doing drudgery. That’s thankless labor is best offloaded onto another woman, and sometimes the man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:39 AM
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You didn’t say that in your comment, it was all about reactions and opinions. Either being judged on your looks is ok or it isn’t. You want to have it both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:24 AM
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It is. They want a dad to spoil and take care of them, that’s exactly the language they use
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:23 AM
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So? They still need a woman to not be “lonely”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:22 AM
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Since men disapprove of and complain about what women do and think it’s wrong and immoral, your assertions that women being attracted to specific men is fine and attaching morals to attraction is abnormal are incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:33 AM
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So no then
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:29 AM
1

Yes, and men do disapprove, contrary to what you claim
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:27 AM
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Complaining shows disapproval, so women being hypergamous and liking Chad is not thought of as “fine” by men, regardless of what women are allowed to do
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:26 AM
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Nope. Any time there’s a story about a teacher fucking a student, men are in the comments celebrating what happened
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:23 AM
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If you’re complaining, you don’t think it’s fine, contrary to your initial comment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:22 AM
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Of course they do. Men depend on women for social and emotional support all the time, because they get none from other men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:21 AM
1

So? Discriminating on looks is discriminating on looks, and you said it was ok in one paragraph and not okay in another
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:20 AM
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Women have daddy issues and want to be taken care of so I don’t see how that is some unique affliction
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:19 AM
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Nope “Women have endless options and we have none” is a very common male complaint
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:19 AM
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Men love telling us how desperate they are and how low their standards are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:26 AM
1

Women also simultaneously hate men with a passion and yet don’t care about them at all, don’t forget
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:24 AM
1

Then why do men complain about women doing all those things ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:23 AM
3

Do you think men want to be treated like children ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:22 AM
3

So ? Less money is not “no money at all” And what does emotions have to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:21 AM
1

Which part?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:21 AM
1

Ok, is hypergamy, high standards and dating abusive guys “fine”?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:28 PM
1

I don’t see you calling men’s opinions on this sub dumbass
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:27 PM
2

So hypergamy and high standards, aka for Chad, are a-ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:26 PM
1

So hypergamy and liking Chad is a-ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:25 PM
1

Oh, like getting mad that women all want the same guys/Chad? Or women dating abusive or criminal men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:24 PM
3

“Treating them differently based on how they look” is the same as “not applying standards equally in how we react to unattractive men”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:23 PM
1

Why is hypergamous discrimination not ok while other types of discrimination are ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:21 PM
2

Sure. We’ll condemn women liking and responding more positively to attractive men when men condemn men for liking and responding more positively to attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:20 PM
0

Not always. Sometimes they say we do things because we hate other women. Or because we’re secretly gay for other women. So many contradictory reasons !
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:15 PM
0

Where is the proof that they were arrested because they weren’t sufficiently attractive ? That was the claim being made, after all
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:56 PM
2

If you weren’t interested in people’s opinions, you wouldn’t be on this sub in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:54 PM
2

Why would helping be unequal ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:18 PM
2

Men are happy to nag and pout for loveless duty sex, and plenty of women will roll over and give it to them since they already do most of the work
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:14 PM
1

Women are condemned by men for only liking attractive men, aka Chad, or wanting someone better than themselves, aka hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:01 PM
3

But women are hypergamous, which is bad, and all want the same men, which is also bad
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:00 PM
2

It is for women, because they experience attraction for the wrong things and dislike the right things, according to men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:59 PM
-4

Not when women do it. Because women have “endless options” and “always go for the same men”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:57 PM
1

Nope. Women are too or incorrectly discriminatory, according to men, so it’s not fine. They are hypergamous and also rate themselves too highly All not ok, according to the men here
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:54 PM
4

Men say they have no options, and thus have and will take anything, and thus women can never be alone or unwanted like men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:53 PM
1

When you actually know, instead of assuming and throwing around contentless rhetoric like “you went for Chad” and “you’re lying” Also, if you tell women they should give more men chances or lower their standards, you’re a hypocrite for judging them for doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:52 PM
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Men being thirsty and sex prioritized and women being pickier and relationship focused is exactly how dating works, and always has
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:49 PM
1

Yes, and the generalization is fine, because a majority of men is not necessary to motivate women’s behaviors and expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:30 PM
3

Men claim to want relationships, love, respect and caring just like women, and to not want to be treated like children Are they lying ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:14 PM
1

If context is relevant, the context on that quote is that all or a majority of men engaging in a behavior is not necessary for it to have an effect on women’s behavior Which it was
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:14 PM
1

It’s not necessary for all or most men to do something for it to have an effect on behavior Saying it is does not make it true
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:10 PM
1

The quote: “The lies and omissions that men engage in, obviously, as evidenced by their words and actions, or lack thereof Especially referring to sex as “use”, and the phrases “pump and dump”, “hit it and quit it”, and other ways to refer to casual sex” Please indicate where the words “all men” or “most men” are, because I do not see them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:08 PM
1

All you said above is “men who are sexually rejected are not valued as men”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:02 PM
1

Well, I don’t think many men will agree with you, or stop getting offended
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:28 PM
1

So you agree with dudes, who say that men and women shouldn’t be treated equally?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:15 PM
2

It can be, if you want the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:13 PM
1

Why is equality too peaceful?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:12 PM
1

Not at all. Women complain precisely because simps get what they want — sex — and then stop simping So men get what they want, and women do not
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:10 PM
1

Doesn’t matter. The point is it is ok for men to feel hurt because women feel hurt in the same situation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:43 PM
1

Nope. For sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:41 PM
1

They appreciate it, but only on their terms, aka for sex only
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:40 PM
5

What impossible, woman-necessary skills are those ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:38 PM
0

But sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:37 PM
2

All can be explained by women not being desperate for sex Men would “choose better” if they weren’t desperate for sex. But they aren’t, and don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:36 PM
2

Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:00 PM
2

I guess they need to “choose better” lolololololol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:00 PM
2

And complain about it 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:59 PM
3

Not at all. That’s why so many women complain and then usually break up or divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:57 PM
4

Men here say all the time they that they require sex to feel love
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:57 PM
1

Nope, you just wrote “men who are sexually rejected are not valued as men” over and over again. No evidence or reasoning there
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:44 PM
1

Nope, nowhere did I say “all men” or even “most men” I said “a minority of men” Here: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/d0Y1dkDGoB
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:25 PM
2

The fact that you brought only yourself up as a defense and ignored other women suggests so, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:56 PM
2

Yes, we had a discussion about how it’s not only about you; other women exist If you actually cared about the truth, you’d read through my comment history to see that I say plenty of things, instead of making assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:53 PM
2

No, you don’t have to cultivate affection/caring; men have to be trained out of it, in fact, to be effective warriors or killers. That is what armies are for Nor do you have to cultivate defending one’s own interests, aka self interest. It’s pretty logical and instinctive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:50 PM
5

Yeah, again, there are vent subs for your personal feelings. I don’t care about male attention either, but this sub is for general discussion, and it’s very clear that many women desire it and complain when men don’t approach them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:47 PM
1

Exactly. “Less” doesn’t mean “none at all”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:43 PM
5

So? Lonely women who complain exist. This post can’t just be about you; go to another sub if you want to talk about your individual situation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:38 PM
1

Nah, it’s because men and women aren’t sociopaths
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:37 PM
1

Men are human and are thus social animals with the ability to care, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:36 PM
1

Of course we do. Other women can’t protect us from men as effectively as other men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:33 PM
7

Women are/would be offended if men didn’t want them, so nah
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:32 PM
6

Lol, are you saying that men are children ? In any case, men feel revulsion for treating women with respect and caring, so we’re equally unloved; yay, equality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:31 PM
7

We’re not men, and aren’t going to lust like men I have seen plenty of hot or attractive men in public. I feel no need to let anyone, let alone the man himself, know of my lust
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:21 AM
5

It’s very clear that many men see women’s personhood as an obstacle, challenge or puzzle to figure out for the ultimate prize, pussy That is why they complain about our choices, interests, standards and opinions. A LOT
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:13 AM
1

This user has been around for years, and in a nutshell, he doesn’t want to pay for dates Probably because he doesn’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:06 AM
2

So that you guys can’t say “that’s just anecdotes”, duh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:48 PM
-1

Plenty of men enjoy the non sexual company of women. Just because you aren’t one of them doesn’t mean they don’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:08 PM
2

If I met more men presently or capable of being feminine, I would have been more masculine I haven’t seen many men who parent at the level women do, let alone by themselves If they do, they are usually gay
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:01 PM
3

There are significant deterrents that people prefer to avoid, like poverty, hostility, violence, social judgment, psychological damage, custody and harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:58 PM
-1

I don’t blame them when a lot of women put up with horrible treatment from unimpressive dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:54 PM
1

It doesn’t, until you remember that people can and like to do what they want to do, rather than what other people want them to do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:52 PM
8

You could very easily look up and believe the many, many testimonies of women who are/were not happy with power imbalances They are everywhere. There are entire cultures, religions, communities, regions and countries where women have less power by tradition and design But you don’t, and won’t, because you’ve already made up your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:46 PM
1

Oh? What should the world look like, and what should women have?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:40 PM
0

So? Men claim they don’t care and are desperate for anything
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:57 AM
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Why would I tell black people what to think of themselves ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:11 AM
3

Men would disagree that it’s wrong to say what they are and what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:23 AM
1

They know. They’re not going to Singapore, Dubai and Iceland
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:21 AM
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Not if men agree with them. And they do Men love talking about how horny and depraved they are, insist that teens are biologically the most attractive, blame women for trusting men, and tell women that men only want one thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:16 AM
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Men aren’t disillusioned, they’re just less appealing thanks to the internet. Women can see how they think and behave more than ever But women will still settle in the end, because heterosexuality and social conformity is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:14 AM
0

Fairness is not relevant, that’s not contradictory
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:12 AM
1

And that’s what PPB is — compensation
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:11 AM
1

Fit dudes are a minority in the US, men in poorer countries aren’t as fat Men from poorer countries aren’t considered exotic, I wonder why ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:10 AM
-1

Yes, “not fair” is “unfair”. I’m glad you can now understand the meaning of the prefix “un”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:50 PM
4

I respect the men who straight up admit they are buying their wives and gfs and hookups. Trump never claims to love or care about his trophy wives, and they in turn never pretend that “genuine desire” exists
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:49 PM
0

Of course it does, if you can provide adequate compensation for services rendered
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:46 PM
2

You don’t have to. Your nationality does that for you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:44 PM
1

The country leads it for you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:40 PM
2

That is precisely why PPB never want to bring a woman back to their home countries. Because once they have money and rights, there won’t be “genuine desire” The woman is the same. The money and rights will not be
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:40 PM
4

So it’s the same, not better as you claimed Yes, so it’s about money, contrary to OPs protests
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:34 PM
-1

Liking people is unfair. We do not distribute friends and sex partners based on equality, fairness and human rights, or, indeed, at all Did you not know this ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:27 PM
5

PPB aren’t interested in consistency and the truth, just grievances and self interest
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:24 PM
3

How do you figure that? Do ppb countries have higher population densities and more socializing than Western countries ? Why would being foreign give you a better chance than a citizen ? Does “not being shit tier” equal “genuine desire”?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:22 PM
0

You don’t have to. But liking someone isn’t based on fairness
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:16 PM
5

I assure you that plenty of people travel to the US, Western Europe, Japan, Korea, Singapore, Australia and NZ https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-visited-countries
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:12 PM
2

Why would the dating pool change abroad? Most ppb countries have lower populations than the US and the larger Western European countries Why wouldn’t women abroad love their own shit tier men ? Why do women from poorer countries have fewer demands ? Does that change when they are no longer poor ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:07 PM
0

Men claim to not care about anything except whether a woman’s body makes their dicks hard, and how many other dicks that body has touched
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:05 PM
7

Of course they do, that why they’re abroad in the first place You’re not a ppb if you’re going to a wealthier county
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:49 PM
0

Nope. You don’t care if a woman had parents who beat her, has committed several felonies, grew up in a trailer or manages a high performing investment portfolio You care about whether her outer layer of tissue makes your dick hard
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:41 PM
5

Why doesn’t getting shape work at home? Why would they see you as a catch there and not here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:23 PM
-3

Doesn’t matter — what you can control is the only thing people care about “Life is unfair” is the first lesson children have to learn
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:15 PM
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If by “genuine desire”, you mean “desire for your money and/or marginally better treatment”, sure But I don’t think that’s what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:02 PM
1

Yuh huh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:58 PM
3

Of course I did. Putting the least effort and investment into something makes you the least vulnerable to disappointment and exploitation And also results in the least fulfillment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:12 PM
5

Sure, if you invest the least amount possible, you’ll be as safe as possible, and have relationships that reflect such low effort But that’s not what most of us want
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:09 PM
5

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, obviously. Freedom! Chaos!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:45 PM
6

Yup. When something is admitted to be damaging after the fact, it is usually judged to be not good for most people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:25 PM
14

Yes, people are allowed to think fucking thousands and thousands of times for attention is excessive, especially when it can physically and psychologically hurt you Just like we’re allowed to criticize people who voluntarily risk their health repeatedly for any reason People are allowed to do dumb things, and we are free to judge and criticize them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:47 PM
9

A woman is not proof of all women, most women, or even some women Otherwise, I can say that all men are murderous abusive rapists based on the actions of a single man
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:58 PM
36

We dont have to praise or agree with extreme excesses of anything
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:56 PM
1

Simply declaring the same thing over and over is not reasoning, nor truth, nor facts Especially when no one else agrees with you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:54 PM
1

And it doesn’t. “Men rape” doesn’t mean “all men” or “most men”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:39 PM
1

So men cannot value, respect, admire or appreciate other men’s strength, violence, leadership, fathering, or aggression?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:16 PM
1

No, there was no “reason” provided, just you asserting over and over again that men can only be valued as men if they’re getting laid You did not provide any reason why other expressions of value like praise, respect, status, admiration, appreciation, etc, for being manly are not valid if a man isn’t getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:05 PM
1

It’s not a false claim. A false claim would be “ALL men are rapists”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:52 PM
1

Of course they are. Because women aren’t as instantly and easily physically attracted as men, and they want to be enticed emotionally
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:00 AM
5

Nope, it’s because men are way thirstier than women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:57 AM
2

Hiding, by definition, is dishonest and manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:57 PM
2

That is what being manipulative/dishonest about your intentions is. Women do it too, when they feign interest in men’s hobbies/concerns, or pretend to return their feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:34 PM
-1

Most people don’t like being preyed on, so they criticize. It is completely understandable and reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:17 PM
1

Receipts needed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:57 PM
1

If you don’t complain or make a public deal about it, no one will know if you’re “living your life” or not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:56 PM
3

Everyone is well aware that giving up is an option for any gender or orientation Nobody is being oppressed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:49 PM
1

Nope. It doesn’t to have an effect on women’s behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:24 PM
1

So? It doesn’t have to be a majority to affect women’s decisions and behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:16 PM
3

We’re not, because low standards indicate low caring, respect and effort
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:21 PM
3

Paying other men is proof that male partners are insufficient. No demand, no supply
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:20 PM
1

Nope. Men are perfectly capable of enjoying, expecting and being dissatisfied with a level of cleanliness in their spaces that they refuse to contribute to
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:18 PM
1

Most women do not, and complain about men doing so, while men do not complain about getting sex and no relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:14 PM
1

It’s a better analogy than a bar or club, because of the physical strength and violence disparity between men and women, and men’s willingness to take advantage of it cannot be replicated in that situation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:13 PM
1

It’s not if no one agrees and there’s no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:11 PM
1

It is, because people can make decisions and standards based on whatever level of risk they want, as my examples showed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:11 PM
1

Relative lack of thirst has lot to do with that, and that will not change Women are, however, extremely dependent on men for domesticity, family and romance, which is why they complain more about being in relationships, not being without
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:49 AM
1

No, they just aren’t as thirsty and dependent on men for all their domesticity and socializing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:44 AM
12

What does that have to do with dating behaviors? If women do it, I don’t see what the problem is with men doing it too. Nobody is prevented from rejecting or choosing anyone at any point in any relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:43 AM
12

Women do the same, so I don’t see the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:11 AM
19

Men’s standards are for them, not us. If they ghost or break up with us at any point because they no longer wish to interact with us, especially after sex, that’s their standard
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:51 PM
0

And yet men are the ones who are usually alone even though they have male “friends” Maybe “costs” aren’t worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:42 PM
2

I’m saying lack of commitment and honesty about wanting casual sex affects dating, and indicates that we don’t agree on principles
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:57 PM
2

They can, but don’t have to, even average or below women Men, on the other hand, usually have to lie and go on dates to get casual sex And that necessity affects dating
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:54 PM
2

Receipts needed for “100%” Regardless, no man or woman is going to complain about that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:50 PM
1

Yes. That is enough men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:44 PM
1

I don’t need to accept your condition of “sexual acceptance”, and nobody else does either
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:44 PM
1

Of course we are talking about what men are valued by — praise, consideration, respect, affection, love, as well as sex I don’t need to agree with your sex condition, all that matters is that you agree that other forms of value exist. And you did
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:40 PM
1

Not really. The golden rule works for most people, because most people aren’t selfish and rigid and absolutist
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:33 PM
1

My claim isn’t that all men do it. It’s that enough men do it so we require them to put in effort
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:31 PM
1

Rigidity, selfishness and absolutism are characteristic of people who are not socially skilled or able, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:30 PM
1

Again, the golden rule doesn’t work for selfish, self centered people
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:02 PM
1

Nope, and you know that But you’re free to be selfish, don’t worry, even if other people don’t like it it’s just that the golden rule won’t work for you, alas
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:58 PM
1

Yes, that is selfishness, glad you get it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:57 PM
2

Not as much as men, by a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:56 PM
1

If women just want sex, they don’t need to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:48 PM
1

Seldom. And most people neither want to nor enjoy treating others badly, so everyone gets what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:05 PM
1

Plenty of modern western people want relationships and children all on their own, because both can be enjoyable and fulfilling I enjoy my marriage a lot We’re all very aware that we don’t have to
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:03 PM
2

We do not agree on the principle. That is the whole issue with dating — people not being honest about their “principles” Women date for relationships only, while men date for sex first, relationships second If women just want sex, they don’t need to date
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:01 PM
1

Most people would prefer that you prioritize them over yourself, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:00 PM
7

A small percentage of people being murdered is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:36 PM
0

Ask men what their number one fear in prison is Men know men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:35 PM
6

I’m afraid comparatively, they do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:20 PM
2

Men think this until it’s other men lusting after them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:25 PM
4

Because we don’t tend to murder others
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:24 PM
3

We don’t perv on teens, no
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:23 PM
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Smut doesn’t involve real people, including minors and the coerced, like porn and sex work does
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:41 PM
3

They are realistic for our desires
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:40 PM
3

As someone from India should know, desire is the cause of all suffering
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:31 PM
3

Indulging and spreading toxicity creates the very thing you’re upset about — lack of amiability At least cheaters don’t normally complain about not being trusted
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:45 AM
3

Usually lack of morals or motivation, or both
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:44 AM
10

Nope. Porn is uncomfortable-looking fucking with zero context IOW, a turn off
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:43 AM
0

It is, and few have it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:44 AM
6

Nope. I’ve never dated from a cold approach, or put up with cheating or waffling on commitment or interest
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:35 PM
1

That’s what you’re doing, assuming we only date shitty men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:41 PM
-1

Since BP doesn’t see sex as the most valuable thing in the world, no
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:40 PM
3

Do you see no couples in your life that enjoy each others company ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:39 PM
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Men think our lives are easy, our interests frivolous and boring, our feelings inconvenient and excessive, our sexuality prudish, our concerns irrational, our achievements irrelevant, our consent problematic …..so yeah, it is weird to try and date them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:34 PM
1

Because of the way men treat them, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:31 PM
6

I definitely wouldn’t have fucked or dated you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:29 PM
1

We aren’t and won’t ever be okay with exploitation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:36 PM
1

“I hate my wife” is an ancient sentiment, so it’s not new
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:36 PM
2

Everyone is supposed to grow up And it ain’t that difficult, just unpleasant and permanent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:45 PM
3

“Ask a man about his ideal woman and watch him describe a slave” “Belly full; balls empty”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:24 AM
4

You do know that this sub is mostly male, ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:01 AM
4

yes, men never generalize women here, of course not https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/kpqyT9qQse https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/mzzH2eJW4T https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/l8M7uMdCKH
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:42 PM
4

Why would we assume that the men we aren’t sleeping with are any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:41 PM
6

Why do you think they want one?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:39 PM
7

They don’t need to start. Most men freely admit that they love what their partners do for them, and know little about what their partners are as people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:39 PM
1

Your agreement isn’t necessary. You can just be wrong I have never heard or read anything about men not being valued if they aren’t getting laid. No one thinks that male value is dependent on that except you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:35 PM
1

Yes, laws forbidding abortion are indeed in place and depriving women of their rights in 13 states.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:20 PM
1

Multiple people is not an anecdote, and is proof I will provide many more then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:16 PM
1

Doesn’t change that it’s the law, and another right being taken will soon be law, while the draft hasn’t been pushed for fifty years Ok, great; guess men aren’t expendable then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:31 PM
1

Abortion rights have been taken away in 13 states. Pending bans are proof, lack of a draft is also proof that men are not expendable
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:11 PM
1

Testimony of motivations is proof, that is why it’s allowed as evidence in court
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:50 PM
1

You agreed that men are valued by and for things other than having sex. Your insistence that sex is a prerequisite is your own invention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:49 PM
1

So? No draft is before the government, while one right has been taken away and the other is pending
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:48 PM
1

Nope. Abortion is illegal in many states now, and the pending bill will prevent married women from voting
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:59 PM
1

Yes, so? Now they are gone or pending elimination
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:41 PM
1

I already listed them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:40 PM
0

It doesn’t have to care about all people to care about people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:16 PM
1

Let’s see this draft then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:16 PM
1

I didn’t know that “unlikely” actually means “never”, how interesting Meanwhile, abortion rights have been removed, and a female disenfranchisement policy is currently before the US senate
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:07 PM
2

Of course it does. Society cares about people and what they do, not rocks or weasels You can break the law if you need an example of societal caring
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:05 PM
1

Materially supporting and adding to society is contributing to society
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:04 PM
1

Of course it does. If they do something interesting or productive, they get billions of dollars, attention or notoriety
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:03 PM
1

We had several full on wars since 1975 and no draft
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:00 PM
1

So there’s going to be a draft ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:56 PM
8

In your particular case, financial irresponsibility and impoverishment There’s plenty of other good reasons, usually linked to individual behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:26 PM
7

Getting screwed over in divorce is precisely why so many sahms don’t divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:22 PM
2

Spend time around me, obviously That’s what you tend to do when you like a person, platonically or romantically Men tend to avoid nonsexualized interactions with women, so it is a pretty anomalous behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:20 PM
2

Words have meanings, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:17 PM
2

From the current policy, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:17 PM
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Men consider pussy the most important thing in the world, the reason that they do any and everything Thus, even average pussy is important
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:22 AM
7

Nope. Male leaders and winners and achievers are the most celebrated and rewarded people in existence
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:19 AM
2

Regressing is going back
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:18 AM
1

Nope, otherwise men wouldn’t be confused about why women aren’t attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:17 AM
1

Sure. On men’s terms, not women’s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:21 AM
2

Same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:59 AM
1

Men don’t care what’s attractive to women. If they did, they’d take better photos and cut their hair and stop wearing socks with sandals and baseball caps
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:59 AM
4

Please see point 3 Modern conservatism is regressive, aka to the 1950s, not literally conservative. They wish to change the status quo Red pill does not want the traditionalism and sexual puritanism that conservatives do
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:19 AM
2

Oh, they know. That’s why so many of them warn and then blame us
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:19 AM
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No, it’s because blue pill isn’t gendered and heterosexual like red pill It’s for everyone, not just the straight male minority
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:18 PM
1

That would make red pillers liberals/progressives. Which a fair number are
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:17 PM
3

Please see point 3 Modern conservatism is regressive, aka to the 1950s, not literally conservative. They wish to change the status quo Red pill does not want the traditionalism and sexual puritanism that conservatives do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:13 PM
2

You made the post and claim, you back it up That’s how debate posts work
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:06 PM
2

Let’s see some proof of this conjecture Cuz I can make up some baseless claims too, like all men want to fuck kids because they hate women or something
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:52 PM
1

Why are you dependent on women ? Men didn’t vote or apply for jobs on behalf of women, so why should we do so for men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:49 PM
8

The red pill is for men, not women, and says so explicitly The red pill is avowedly apolitical because they do not wish to change anything, merely manipulate the current system more effectively Additionally, activism, like sexual assault and other crimes, brings negative effects, consequences and attention, another reason they are specifically disavowed by RP
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:47 PM
3

Liking my body is worth little compared to wanting to be around me, especially since so many men don’t treat women’s bodies very considerately
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:40 PM
7

Let’s see the proof of that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:36 PM
4

That is not proven
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:36 PM
4

Why would men and not women have family to help ? It is also not in the best interest of the child to have massive disruptions and discontinuity of care, and women have less ability to pay because they are doing childcare
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:34 PM
2

I’m afraid a 15% lifetime chance is far from “extremely unlikely” https://www.thecenterat909.org/sexualviolencestatistics
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:27 PM
1

It’s not coddling. Male violence/aggression is very real, accepted and accessible, and is both a benefit and a hindrance to men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:59 PM
4

Safety and indifference
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:57 PM
1

*valuable only to men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:56 PM
1

For me, like many women. payment equals effort and commitment https://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/s/LfUjLD2yvw
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:49 PM
1

Yes, your requirement that sex is necessary is your own invention, but other forms of value are valid, which is supported by what men say
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:44 PM
1

Pussy is not as important as power
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:54 AM
7

Not necessarily. They might also be cognizant enough to know that women aren’t as indiscriminately thirsty as men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:52 AM
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Not always. Plenty of them just use old fashioned reasoning, like “I wouldn’t want to be bothered or accosted by a stranger, so why would I do that to another person?”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:59 AM
1

Perhaps individually it is, but collective pursuit and maintenance of masculine power and power structures is beneficial to men in general
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:54 AM
1

Wealthy/famous people pay for sex all the time All those Epstein girls weren’t free.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:10 AM
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That’s the answer to the question in your title
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:00 PM
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Because men like children, duh. It’s in their interest to pursue what they want; who cares what the child wants ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:32 PM
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I disagree. Mental children are unattractive as partners, employees, coworkers, customers, clients and friends. Self-centered, irresponsible and ignorant adults should also not be parenting or teaching actual children
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:31 PM
1

https://np.reddit.com/r/AMA/s/vgWYF1U8Px
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:46 PM
1

https://np.reddit.com/r/datingoverthirty/s/cu4tj3RKwW
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:25 PM
2

Childish adults are neither prevalent nor celebrated
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:22 PM
1

That’s the male ideal — main wife + side pieces and hookers when she gets old or boring
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:11 PM
2

And also complain about things!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:51 PM
0

Not if you have a main chick
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:50 PM
1

Men cheat at the rate women want to, not the rate they want to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:46 PM
2

I’ve heard this claim of pre-historic serial monogamy but have never seen any evidence of it, certainly not from archaeology or ethnography
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:40 PM
4

The golden rule is a pretty good start, what’s wrong with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:36 PM
6

Kids don’t stay kids I stopped believing in fairy tales at about 5, so, ya know….
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:35 PM
3

A marriage contract is proof of the relationship, which entitles the participants to material and legal benefits that non contract holders do not Those are massive benefits and indicators of trust, so much so that marriage fraud is a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:32 PM
2

Of course we do. It’s called work, and I met the most men there
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:28 PM
5

You can want things that you have no intention of pursuing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:27 PM
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Going where there’s opportunities is usually a good idea if you want opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:27 PM
0

Nope. Those men are told to socialize, not cold approach
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:23 PM
1

Nope, because strangers aren’t vetted or guaranteed, and might not go away after
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:22 PM
8

No, we don’t know unless you tell us. That’s how thoughts and intentions work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:51 PM
15

No one has to know unless you make it their problem And incels, manospherians and conservatives make it our problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:48 PM
3

I know it was a generalization, and responded in kind Most men are happy to live in and expect higher standards than they themselves are willing to put effort in to maintain. When they pay money for hotels, or work in an office, men are happy to complain about a lack of cleanliness and aesthetics that they themselves would never be willing to meet
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:46 PM
2

Evolutionary effects result from processes begun in the past, did you know ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:43 PM
1

Yup, of course they do. Because it’s easy to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:41 PM
2

Nope. Male sex workers exist and have female clients. You can go on any escort site and book one yourself. I also know a few personally So, my evidence contradicts your lack of evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:37 PM
1

I personally am not interested but have friends that have been paid
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:15 PM
1

They do, that’s why male sex workers and industries In many countries exist. I’ve met a couple
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:14 PM
0

Most but not all. And women are willing to look for and compete over the minority of men who aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:13 PM
4

Men are perfectly capable of having female cleanliness standards —- as long as they aren’t the ones maintaining them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:12 PM
0

Why so? Its logical to conclude that if you never talk to women you will never have sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:09 PM
2

My preference is “cares about what i want”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:08 PM
2

If you think you’re owed sex and that it’s about fairness you should
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:07 PM
1

Just because women don’t need to doesn’t mean they don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:05 PM
1

I’d say men have a higher drive for one sided encounters and strangers Women who are as indiscriminate as men are rare
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:02 AM
1

Why would anything that helps, sometimes substantially, be “overrated”?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:59 AM
13

Expendable in certain situations that are overwhelmingly unlikely to ever happen to you ? Wow, that must be so difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:55 AM
1

Why? Because they’re desperate for relationships of any sort, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:52 AM
4

The assumption that women are more emotionally intelligent comes as much from gender roles and expectations as anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:02 AM
23

The vast majority of men who ever lived neither knew nor cared whether the women they fucked liked or wanted to fuck them A minority of men isn’t “men”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:41 PM
2

Why do you need compassion when you’re the one on the bottom getting your life dictated to you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:39 PM
2

I see entitlement work long term for average dudes all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:16 PM
2

There’s also entitlement, which often pays off for the entitled
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:38 PM
4

I think it is intentional to be lazy, selfish and self interested
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:22 PM
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It isnt if you want bully, guilt and nag people into doing what you want, rather than what they want And it often works
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:21 PM
3

Of course it exists and is very relevant to women and whether they stay in relationships But please, do ignore it if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:19 PM
2

A generalization is a generalization; a minority is not a generalization
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:01 AM
3

Why would your personal opinion be unpopular with you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:24 PM
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Um, the term is pretty self explanatory
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:24 PM
2

There are much more important things to worry about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:41 PM
2

It’s not inherent. You choose to put pussy on a pedestal. Women don’t care about other women’s pussies
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:35 AM
1

Yes, you agreed that men aren’t only valued by or for having sex, and your assertion that all other forms of value are dependent on having sex is your own invention
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:32 AM
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Strangers? Sure, women can’t trust strange men But your female friends, if you had any, should have done something Or venue staff
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:13 AM
1

Exactly. And that is what happens currently
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:27 AM
1

Women are punished, if fraud can be proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:24 AM
2

There isn’t a slippery slope. Paternity fraud is currently a crime, just like rape and murder
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:16 AM
2

And they aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:14 AM
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Conjecture, not facts Justice is secondary to social good in society. That’s why there’s so many insufficient punishments for crimes, and why the most repressive and punitive countries always fail
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:12 AM
3

Nah, Children!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:08 AM
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So? Still not murder
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:08 AM
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Government doesn’t care about that, and shouldn’t. It should prioritize vulnerable dependent societal investments, aka children, over adults who have autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:03 AM
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I’m afraid not to a child, who you obviously do not care about more than an adult man
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:00 AM
1

There are artists even in war and poverty, where they provide much needed hope, morale, identity and motivation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:59 AM
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No one thinks orphanages or foster care are better than non-abusive bio parents
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:55 AM
2

And that wasn’t what was written Of course artists are not useless in war or poverty. They often have the biggest impact on morale, identity and motivation. There were entire entertainment troops during wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:54 AM
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Not for kids, the people the government should be protecting the most 2-5 years after the child becomes an adult is more than sufficient
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:43 AM
2

So? The assertion wasn’t “art isn’t as useful against violence as other fields”, it was “art is useless”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:42 AM
5

My example is just fine. Artists are very important for entertainment and communication of ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:19 AM
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I’m afraid fraud is not punished for 25 years, nor is removing a parent for that length of time in the interest of the government or the child Fining is a much better punishment for the child, which should be the priority over adults
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:18 AM
6

If you think artists are useless, you’re welcome to live in places where there are none. They’re called dictatorships and war zones
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:48 AM
6

They won’t, because sex. And women are willing to work with that It’s surprisingly easy to be better than solitude. The majority of men manage to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:46 AM
1

You can dismiss it, and it won’t change what women and men do, and why
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:40 AM
6

Why do we have to make people think what we want? If they want to be delusional, let them; the truth is all around and not being hidden
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:39 AM
1

Everyone knows that men are horndogs and women are not. Men tell us so all the time, because they think women don’t know (we do) Plenty of online complaining isn’t about ignorance, it’s about entitlement — as in, women *should* be as horny as men, and anger that they aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:38 AM
0

why not any or all of the above ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:45 AM
3

Exploitation is rightly criticized, whether it’s of immigrants or emigrants
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:43 AM
1

Men are perfectly aware of this. That’s why they believe they have to provide and protect, especially against the thirst of other males
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:42 AM
1

Nope. Partners are great, if you can actually get one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:41 AM
1

Sex, for men who care about that Normal human interaction, partnership and companionship, for men who care about that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:41 AM
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