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Generalizing any person in any way is dehumanizing by your definition, so you yourself are dehumanizing feminists, women and men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:35 PM
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When I didn’t enjoy dating, it was because of the way men treated me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:27 PM
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Handsome & faithful
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:26 PM
1

Ideals don’t have to be reality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:25 PM
1

Yes Because I wouldn’t demand lifelong loneliness of my partner either
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:25 PM
0

We don’t have to, because most people are able to avoid extreme thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:24 PM
1

It should, but that hasn’t prevented abuse, so I’m not in favor of it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:23 PM
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It would, since we inconvenience ourselves greatly to mitigate and avoid it, while still experiencing it negatively almost universally
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:22 PM
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Then explain how understanding equal agreement or sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:41 PM
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Doesn’t change what empathy is and how it works Next time, use the correct terms — sympathy and compassion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:11 PM
2

That is exactly how empathy works. We don’t have to have identical experiences to empathize. A man can empathize with the pain of childbirth, and a woman can empathize with being unwanted or rejected. I also never claimed that men and women have identical experiences, because I have empathy, observation, imagination and reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:04 PM

I didn’t know that dissatisfaction and resentment were insanity Kinda sounds like you, not women, are being dramatic and weird
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:24 PM
2

Understanding just requires identification, reason and acknowledgement, nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:20 PM
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Yes, you think I don’t understand because I don’t agree or sympathize. Neither of those are necessary to grasp or identify a concept or feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:01 PM
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Nope. Empathy and agreement are not synonyms
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:45 PM
1

I do. Doesn’t mean I agree or sympathize
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:05 PM
1

That is also understandable and known, because men tell us
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:44 PM
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None, because micropenises are extremely rare
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:59 PM
1

Frustration, unhappiness, loneliness, resentment, horniness, envy, self loathing, sadness, etc, and their causes are all easy to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:56 PM
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Of course we understand. Nothing that many men think or feel is difficult to understand. This ain’t quantum mechanics or metaphysics
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:15 AM
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And I didn’t say they did Just because we understand doesn’t mean we agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:27 PM
1

And I didn’t say that it was. All I said was that if you empathize, even misogyny can be logical
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:42 AM
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I didn’t say that I said if you empathize with men, ie, see it from their viewpoint, misogyny is the logical outcome of being denied what you want I can feel bad for men, just not bad enough to fuck them when I don’t want to or excuse their behaviors and attitudes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:52 AM
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Of course it is. That’s understanding and seeing things from another’s perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:16 AM
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I understand that men have a hard time getting women to desire, fuck and date them. And that this makes them feel frustrated, angry, and resentful. And that they feel life is unfair and women are mean and cruel This all makes sense, and is not hard to grasp. Misogyny is logical, after all. If I wanted something from someone and they wouldn’t give it to me, I’d be angry at them too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:37 PM
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Men think that not wanting fuck them is hatred and inhumane treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:15 PM
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No, I just said I can empathize, but it doesn’t mean I agree or sympathize
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:03 AM
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Empathy doesn’t mean agreement, just understanding You’re thinking of sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 01:04 AM

Same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:56 PM

“When you’re used to supremacy, equality feels like oppression” There are plenty of men who think women being able to say no to them is an injustice
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:07 PM

We don’t You decide that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:53 PM

The only place where this would be surprising is Provo, UT
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:05 PM
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Doesn’t matter why; the solution is the same — don’t fuck early and have some self respect
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:03 PM

Men claim to be good and nice people Not so?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:00 PM
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“Lesbian < straight male < straight woman < gay male” Receipts needed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:30 PM
4

Then why do we hear about the “male loneliness epidemic”?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:28 PM
2

When I saw how they behave, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:25 PM
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Just because I understand doesn’t mean I agree or prioritize your desires over mine
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:25 PM

Because makeup isn’t a lie. We all know it’s there
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:11 AM
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Social animals are still going to social animal, unlike solitary animals
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:10 AM
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I know, but I just ain’t into pussy :(
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:36 AM
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If she wants to. No one is saying the group is right, just that it provides necessary support. Because we’re monkeys, not cats
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:34 AM
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He doesn’t miss it, he just complains He’s posting the same rants for years, over many, many alts
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:32 AM
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Of course I can Still doesn’t make me want to fuck or mommy them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:16 AM
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It is very logical and reasonable for social animals to consider the opinions of other members of the social group Failing to do so would be detrimental for survival and success
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:15 AM
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Being competitive doesn’t equal hate
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:46 PM

For women, not men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:35 PM
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Yeah, and they can. What’s the problem, now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:15 PM

Lying is always an option. As are sex workers I see no issue
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:14 PM

Same reason men do in the other post
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:12 PM
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I’d say partly the algorithms, partly a reflection of meatspace (trump, tate, wars, woke backlash)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 04:01 AM

Daily cleaning, no; weekly cleaning, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:27 PM

This is off topic and personal, and will get deleted But yes, out of 40 human beings, the chance that one will be a selfish baby is pretty high
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:07 PM
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He doesn’t want to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:05 PM
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Yes, so it obviously happens And it also happens informally for the same reason — to prejudice others against the victim
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:04 PM
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Clothing is no longer a legal argument since the Denim defense back in 1999, but victims are still asked this all the time in court to prejudice juries, and in the court of public/social opinion So much so that a bunch of art exhibits addressed it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:28 PM
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Because it’s neither hidden nor denied
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:22 PM

It’s way more than half And it’s mostly voluntary, although probably less so now due to abortion bans
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:40 PM

Of course they are. Just not as many as before
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:52 PM

That is not what happens in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:52 PM

Yes, because optional reproduction doesn’t mean the end of a society or government People can still reproduce, and are in fact supported in doing so, by society and government Here’s the thing — if you’re going to force people to do something, you have to be prepared to deal with the consequences. Is society willing to deal with the effects of mandatory reproduction, such as many, many unwanted and neglected kids, and lots of women in prison ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:43 PM

Because desire is the cause of suffering, as an entire religion knows
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:37 PM

Preying on your own side and being unnecessarily vulnerable to the enemy are both bad strategies, regardless of the state of law
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:35 PM
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Yes, but that was in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:34 PM

Kids are still being born Societies have survived with fewer people And men are much better at violence, destruction, raping and killing than women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:32 PM

Women aren’t good at terrorizing civilians, taking war prizes and booty, marching for hours with a hundred pounds of equipment, raping, and not getting raped They are also bad at getting their own male comrades and superiors to stop raping, harassing, murdering and disrespecting them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:24 PM

There should be, if you want your country/civilization to survive/win
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:11 PM

If that happens, it means you’re going to lose, or your society is composed of clones
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:09 PM

War is about efficacy, not principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:08 PM

Equal doesn’t mean identical Older people are equal to younger people, and they will not fight in the next war either. Nor will disabled or sick people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:03 PM
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Because people won’t do what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:02 PM

Because it allows them to feel better and do nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:00 PM
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I’ve experienced mediocre sex, settling, bad partners, bangmaid treatment, assault, porn sex, being used for sex, having an unattractive face and personality, and am up front about all of it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:42 PM
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Anecdotes are not data or generalizations
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:39 PM
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Most people would, and most people could not
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:31 PM
1

Depends on what men want
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:29 PM
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“There’s no point” = “I don’t wanna put in effort”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:16 PM
0

Reproduction is pretty important for continued existence
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:11 PM
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I would like people to stop fucking up kids by modeling bad relationships, expectations and behavior Adults with no dependents can and should do what they want, unless it is illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:08 PM
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Settling is fine as long as everyone is happy and functional
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:05 PM

They are —- because we want to make people do what we want
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:04 PM
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Not if you want marriage and kids
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:03 PM
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Same reason men do it to women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:03 PM
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Because they’re the ones who want sex more, stereotypically
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:24 PM
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Plenty of men date for sex, or at least want sex first, commitment later
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:23 PM
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Less often than they used to
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:22 PM
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Most men are more willing to pay someone else to clean their spaces and raise their kids than do it themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:21 PM
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Of course that’s not normal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:13 PM
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Homophobe
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:40 AM
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Plenty of men would rape and murder if they could get away with it. And they are usually smarter than bears
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:00 AM
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All I can tell you is what people say is good about arranged marriages. Plenty of tradcons have similar justifications
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:53 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:52 PM
-2

That is the reasoning behind arranged marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:51 PM
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Nobody in the post, afaik
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:51 PM
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Bears are gay men I am not a gay man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:31 PM
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Why shouldn’t they, when it gives them an excuse to complain and give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:15 PM
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Lol, you’re so far red you’ve gone blue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:01 PM
2

Then that doesn’t involve a passport, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:00 PM
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Whatever men want and are not getting, that is what red pill supports. Because red pill is about male desires, not logical consistency
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:59 PM
2

The data disagrees
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:34 PM
4

If I wanted casual sex, I wouldn’t go to the woods to find it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:29 PM
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They do not care, and why should they? Just like the purveyors of sex tourism know and do not care
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:27 PM
3

Men want sex more, get more orgasms and status from it, and have fewer adverse effects
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:26 PM
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Less simping and thirsting, obviously Remove the cause and the effect will cease
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:24 PM
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Women he thinks are on his level won’t fuck or date him
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:22 PM
2

If that were true, Asians and Latin Americans would all be incels
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:12 PM
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Heresy!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:09 PM
5

If we needed or wanted your provision, more of you would be getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:51 PM
1

People complain about Covid being a bio weapon or the government lying about the earth being flat on every platform too. Doesn’t make it true and if you only want agreement and support, don’t post on a debate/discussion sub
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:50 PM
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I don’t consider incel claims to be fact based either
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:08 PM
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Unless you have evidence/data to back that up, I will assume that business owners like profits, which involve minimal costs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:06 PM
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It’s one filter, and not a perfect one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:04 PM

The equivalent is becoming a child or monster after the baby comes out, moving countries, signing a lease, quitting a job, marriage, moving in, “I love you”, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:01 PM
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Nope. Women voluntarily disadvantage themselves to have and care for kids
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:00 PM

If you’re hot, that is reason enough to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:59 PM
5

Yes. And time/effort It works If I wanted to just get laid, I wouldn’t have to date
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:58 PM
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It’s to prevent pumping and dumping, as everyone already knows Women don’t have to date to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:57 PM
2

You have provided no data for any of these claims, because you are trying to solve and individual, personal issue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:54 PM
1

You do know that there is a sub-minimum wage pay structure for the restaurant and other industries that solicit tips, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:53 PM
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Yes. It’s a barrier to exploitation and use
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:47 PM
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Of course. You don’t offer people sex and relationships in everyday interactions, do you? Sex is more important to men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:46 PM
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1) height is the prevalent cause of inceldom 2) inceldom is a threat to society 3) society needs to address inceldom by performing painful and risky treatments for height
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:04 PM
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According to your comment, you are concerned about your situation only, and have no studies or demographic evidence supporting any of your claims
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 03:56 PM
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I see no evidence to back any of these claims
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 03:48 PM
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Of course, because men get more out of sex, and often relationships, than women do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 03:45 PM

People and society just don’t believe that looks and banging women is as important as other things, and they have a right to raise their kids thusly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 03:43 PM
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People expect and receive tips because of industry practice/mistreatment If you want exceptional treatment (sex/relationship), why would you offer pedestrian, not exceptional, effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 03:13 PM
0

But they won’t, because no sex is being had, and men like looking at women If there is demand, there will be supply You can also see way more explicit stuff on Reddit without restriction, ya hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 03:07 PM
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That is precisely why they are desired
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 03:05 PM

Again, putting all or most of ones eggs in a basket with a shorter than average expiry date and poor outcomes is not at prudent or logical strategy, especially if you have a limited number of eggs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 03:04 PM

It explains why parents don’t focus on looks and conservative/antisocial behavior They are minority strategies with limited success
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:39 PM

Most women aren’t conservative, at least when young. And most people know that attractiveness is most desired, but also the hardest to obtain. And, of course, is temporary and limited
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:36 PM
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The women who do not care about their safety don’t care The women who care about their safety do Also, I thought you had a gf?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:32 PM

It’s not. Criminality and antisocial behavior is not a road to success unless you have skill, knowledge and sociopathy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:30 PM
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Not great, Bob
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:28 PM
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It’s a different way of interacting with society
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:27 PM
2

Being a nice kind woman gets you little and worse too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:27 PM
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Just bastards in general. Perpetuating the underclass due to social and economic immobility
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:26 PM

Enough men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:38 AM
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1) Not obsessing over what women are doing, especially on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:36 AM
2

Again, not worth the risk Especially since bears can be avoided
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:33 AM
4

That post history — whew!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:33 AM
2

Tinder does not control all of dating A match is far from a commitment or even a connection
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:31 AM
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Not worth the risk Besides, who else is likely to be prowling around the woods ? Sane, civilized people?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 03:04 AM

“Absent” And bio is usually better, and less ethically risky
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:23 AM

Sez who? Your TikTok algorithm? Your Twitter favs? Your Instagram feed?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:21 AM

You Can’t Always Get What You Wa-ant
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:20 AM
2

If that were so, all our leaders would be weightlifters, gymnasts, football players and wrestlers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:19 AM
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Because it is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:16 AM
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Counterpoint: sex users Also, your behavior is a factor; long live the ick
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:15 AM
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We used to do that, and it was not economically or socially efficient
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:14 AM
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Biology and antagonistic sexual imperatives beg to differ Competition and conflict are part of many biological and social relationships— including parental and sibling
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:13 AM
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No, because most men want support, primacy, priority, nurturing, and agreeableness They want to be captain, not first mate. How can you expect sex and service when you’re a subordinate? If they don’t need you, why would they submit?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:08 AM
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Sure they are. That’s what childish fairy tales and crushes are all about Women can be lazy, hormone crazed and simpleminded too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:05 AM
1

I love screaming at the top of my lungs It attracts the greatest variety of men, because lung capacity is very sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:03 AM
-1

A bear, to my knowledge, will not deliberately torment you for days, weeks or years like a sadist would
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:01 AM
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Violence, aggression, competitiveness & cruelty
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:58 AM
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To young women, normal mature adulthood is impressive. Also, they don’t have to be dominant in a relationship, so inferior knowledge and experience is not a turn off
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:56 AM
2

For the woman, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:55 AM

And yet, most men date, fuck, marry, and don’t commit suicide Sounds like a you problem
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:54 AM
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And this is why men keep sucking at sex Because women will still fuck them I don’t really blame them, frankly; you get what you tolerate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:42 AM

That’s what men say they want. But there’s no incentive for women to provide it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:39 AM
2

What kinds of things would people want to be harder to obtain ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:38 AM

No, because we see how men treat us
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:27 PM
2

Actually going your own way, for starters
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:39 PM
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They do They just want it to be different, because they want it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:22 PM
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Out of 100,000 subscribers, only 3 are blue pill men Sure, Jan
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:18 PM
7

Sounds like red pill just means “unsocialized/uncivilized”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:16 PM
9

TIL that all men are red pilled, and only lie about not being red pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:15 PM

Great, I look forward to seeing less of you on here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:07 PM
2

I think you can use your own imagination and logic to answer this question
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:06 PM
2

If legalization improved the conditions and treatment of women in the sex trade, I would support it No clear evidence that it does exists, so I do not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:03 PM
1

That’s one of the reasons polygamy is illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:59 PM
1

It’s illegal and easy to obtain, just like drugs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:41 PM
1

Nope. That’s not a better choice
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:40 PM
2

They can, if they have to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:38 PM
1

That’s why you don’t go to establishments or use your car There’s plenty of other options
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:56 PM
2

The only way that will happen is if you are involved in sex trafficking. As in, a pimp working to sell sex Johns don’t get incarcerated, they get fined and exposed to anyone who lives with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:42 PM
1

Receipts please
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:39 PM
1

So most men are celibate?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:28 PM
1

If you’re “desperate” for release it is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:24 PM
0

Everyone I know is a criminal, because we have all drunk alcohol before 21, smoked weed, done other drugs, lied on legal forms, denied lying on legal forms, jaywalked, not stopped a red light…. So that sounds like an excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:23 PM
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And not trying
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:19 PM
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If you’re desperate for food and water, you’ll eat weevils and tree bark, and drink from puddles Beggars can’t be choosy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:18 PM
1

If you’re that desperate to nut, which is what a sex drive is, paid sex is fine
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:14 PM
2

“Getting laid” is sex. Sex is purchasable Most incels are terrible at and terrified of talking to another person. Sexbots and AI girlfriends that require no effort, initiative or risk will be right up their alley
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:12 PM
3

Men don’t have to admit the truth about why they want to fuck to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:09 PM
1

So? What they offer is desired anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:07 PM
1

So rape is about validation? And why is prostitution the oldest and easiest profession?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:06 PM
8

Many humans would rather burn a village down out of envy than plant more crops to improve their status Effort, ya know
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:53 PM
0

Food is available for a price
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:52 PM
12

If society makes you feel bad, why keep interacting with it? You should choose better
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:51 PM
0

Then sex workers will suffice
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:48 PM

But a lot don’t, because expectations are low and women are desperate for love and caring And babies, don’t forget babies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:45 PM
10

Thieves think everyone steals, liars think everyone lies, rapists think everyone rapes, abusers think everyone is abusive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:42 PM
0

If she wanted to, she would
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:41 PM
5

OP appears to forget or deny that relationships are mutual, not unilateral
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:31 PM
0

Porn begs to differ As does the rest of the sex industry And online dating And infidelity
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:13 PM
2

Not our fault men have no interest in the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:12 PM
9

“If she wanted to, she would”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:10 PM

Reddit’s advice to be social did work I have never seen any mainstream advice telling men to get women to buy them things And your anecdotes perfectly illustrate why “being an asshole” is not a viable strategy for relationships, ie, Reddit and not red pill was right
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:48 PM
-2

I will just keep pointing out that half of single men aren’t looking anyways There’s no injustice here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:45 PM

Just because you think you’re attractive doesn’t mean she agrees 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:44 PM
3

I’m not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:28 AM
10

You’d be surprised at the number of abused women who say their partner earns less or none In fact, they often say that’s exactly why they can’t leave him — out of guilt for leaving him destitute
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:10 AM
3

Call us when men know the names of their kids friends, their pediatrician, where the flour is, how to clean the bathroom, where my peplum tops are in the closet, and the last time the floor has been mopped
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:58 AM
1

Why? Because plenty of men don’t parent their kids They don’t know the names of their friends, friends parents, teachers, doctors, coaches, etc. They never know the kids schedule, their likes or dislikes, what the summer plan is, what they’re doing in school….. Women do tons of management, and no, we’re not going to shut up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:51 AM
2

Of course
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:43 AM
12

Not at all. Women are primed and trained to want Twu Wub from childhood But we’re also told and shown that most men do not like women very much as people So if you can somehow convince a woman that you actually like her, she will let you abuse and cheat on her, because love is all that matters The caveat is….she has to like who she thinks you are too. So, do you think you can be both likable and loving?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:55 AM
3

Your power is immunity to the pussy And a very significant one
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:06 PM
5

Of course love is true. You only have to look at the abuse subs to know that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:57 PM

“Scream from the top of their lung” Dramatic, much? I don’t recall seeing anything like that in r/publicfreakout In any case, if fat Walmart shoppers and gamers can get harems, the problem must be you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:49 PM
1

Generally instead of individually
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:26 PM
1

Break up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:04 PM

Lol, no — the relationship and abuse subs show that women are more likely to be in shitty relationships because they don’t want to be alone
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:02 PM
1

That’s gonna happen when you outnumber women 3:1 instead of 1:1 like in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:17 AM
5

Right, that’s why Disney movies and rom coms always end up with 4 gals and one guy living happily ever after, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:23 AM
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I believe it was 80%. No, because that’s biology, and because women still fuck, date and marry such men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:03 AM
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I’d say below 4, same as for women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:01 AM
1

Without gender as a deciding factor, my answer would have been “depends on the situation”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:48 AM
3

N counts
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:47 AM
2

Nope. “Ok” is not the same as “ew”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:47 AM
1

I’ll take your word for it, because all I know is that she was an ugly prostitute who killed johns, and that was plenty unusual all on its own
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:45 AM
1

That wasn’t evident in your OP
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:44 AM
5

But you brought it up in your OP to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:43 AM
-1

For the 539,321st time, no one ever said that looks don’t matter at all/women like hideous men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:40 AM
5

Yes, that is an important minority viewpoint to leave out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:39 AM
1

Because I don’t think gender matters
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:37 AM
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That preceded 4b And women were very up front as to why https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/south-koreas-fertility-rate-dropped-fresh-record-low-2023-2024-02-28/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:36 AM
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Why would you wait so long instead of just trying another woman? Since, you know, you don’t want to date this high n woman anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:28 AM
1

Oh right
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:18 AM
1

I didn’t. I can see myself being advantaged in a relationship, if he cares more than I
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:10 AM
0

She killed Johns, not men in general
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:09 AM
-2

The advantage that men have in dating is that women care about things other than looks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:01 AM
1

The FBI/law enforcement and women do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:53 PM
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Both work But not for everyone and not on everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:41 PM
0

Never said any of that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:38 PM
1

Lying is not helpful, and saying yes or no would have been a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:37 PM
-2

Mmkay
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:36 PM
2

Well, that is a major complaint from men, especially here — women being afraid of nothing, and men being hated and avoided because of it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:32 PM

I already have one, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:31 PM
3

No
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:08 PM
0

Yes, and that is why such groups are not seen as unbiased, reasonable or mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:08 PM
1

That also happens to be the way I feel, because I know that people are diverse and have different feelings towards different people Men and women can both be desperate in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:06 PM
0

Discerning the truth. If you believe all men or all women have an advantage in relationships, always, you will have an inaccurate view of reality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:01 PM
0

There’s never been a femcel or misandrist killing spree or female serial rapist/murderer (ie, kills and/or rapes men because they’re men) There has also never been any movement to repeal men’s right to vote, or a call to enslave men so that women can marry or fuck them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:56 PM
5

“Why are women so obsessed with safety? This is the safest time in the history of humanity! Their chances of being murdered are 0.1%!”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:54 PM
1

Plenty of grown ass adults aren’t passionate or highly invested in their jobs. Many of them even switch jobs and professions. I did, several times, as did my partner and my parents, my friends….
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:52 PM
1

It’s too early to tell
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:45 PM
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I do, but it’s not going to happen. Every single sex strike did nothing Women will cave. They always do, for money, status and babies —- because those are important, not insignificant, things
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:44 PM
2

As expected, men know. They just try and gaslight us
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:33 PM
4

It’s not a sacrifice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:32 PM
2

I thought that women being more vulnerable is a myth? Not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:31 PM
-2

You guys whine that people consider you rapists and murderers, so now no one will think that. No bueno ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:30 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7293001/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:25 PM
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It’s not a helpful question
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:18 PM
-1

Not really, because there’s less to defend There’s never been a gendered murderer/rapist for women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:15 PM
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I don’t believe men’s do either. That would technically make them illegal Edit: how could I forget the incels ? I believe there was also a red pill murderer, but he did not specifically advocate murder
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:05 PM
1

We’ll see My prediction is few responses, which in itself will be telling
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:48 PM
5

I assure you that more than 10-20% of men are fucking and dating
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:45 PM
0

🍿 🍿 🍿
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:39 PM
2

Now you’re moving goalposts — it’s not about the profession, it’s about how serious and committed you are to it, and how demanding the profession is Got any more conditionals to add? You do realize that this argument is now relevant to a minority of people, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:28 PM
-2

Because it’s voluntary, not involuntary
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:20 PM
4

Speculation is not fact or reality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:19 PM
2

Depends on the looks of both parties
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:18 PM
6

Why are you surprised that male interest groups defend and support men? That is their whole purpose, not clarity, efficiency or accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:13 PM

And Iike I said, they’re free to do so and do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:05 PM
3

The whole point about “are we dating the same guy” and west elm caleb is that women aren’t into that stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:03 PM
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Men, not women, like polygamy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:03 PM

We don’t need to see them to know that they’re there. Because they sure love to complain on the internet, like an invisible black hole emitting radiation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:42 PM
1

We don’t need to see them to know that they’re there. Because they sure love to complain on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:42 PM
1

Well, duh, because he’s not in a relationship Which is what the OP is about, by the way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:40 PM
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By explaining why younger men are seen as less attractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:39 PM
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The only stat that matters is that only half of the single men are actually looking
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:22 PM
2

Only if you’re willing to walk away, which is a function of caring less
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:20 PM
0

That’s not what “age gap relationship” means and you know it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:08 PM
1

And I don’t intend to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:07 PM
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Anonymity, demographics
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:47 PM

I assure you that unattractive people fuck and date. You just don’t wanna watch or think about them doing so, that’s all, unless it’s for entertainment
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:45 PM
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Because the manosphere is straight and for cis men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:43 PM
-1

Casual sex Relationship Pick one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:42 PM
3

I didn’t say anything about having sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:37 PM
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A 20 year old attractive enough to get hit on by older women is not a virgin. But he’s still 20. I’m not friends with 20 year old women either
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:33 PM
2

You have a very narrow and rather ignorant mindset if you think that’s what the law is. I should know, because I hang around a lot of lawyers, even though I am not one There are plenty of I bankers with tattoos and other alternative views and interests. Again, because I know them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:31 PM
2

Way to miss the point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:28 PM
2

Hiring managers would beg to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:28 PM

And yet, it works. That’s how I found every sex partner I’ve ever had I’m glad you weren’t the boss of me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:35 PM
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He’s early 20s; no one would feel creepy about that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:32 PM
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Ignorance is expected in the young. It’s abnormal in the mature
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:31 PM
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Well, it depends on what you want from your relationship with them, doesn’t it? Would you consider them a peer and have them hang out with your other friends ? Because I certainly wouldn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:31 PM
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Personality types and values are not industry specific, did you know? Ambition is not just confined to doctors and lawyers, nurturing is not the sole providence of teachers And many people don’t want to date clones of themselves. I’m introverted and antisocial, and am glad my partner is neither You have a very rigid and narrow view of both people and their jobs. Sounds almost like astrology
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:28 PM
1

His ignorance and inexperience
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:24 PM
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Because people are more than their outer wrapping. Well, at least women think so
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:22 PM
-5

Of course you don’t, because you’re young and ignorant Let’s put it this way — do you find 10 year olds relatable and interesting to interact with as equals?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:19 PM
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Because most women do not find exploitation, ignorance and immaturity hot or admirable
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:14 PM
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They think his features are fine. It’s the age that’s the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:08 PM
1

Not necessarily. Not everyone likes to cling to only what is familiar, similar and boring Should all your friends and family, even your community be in the same industry ? Should you get your interaction and information from only one place? Do you think segregation is good for a free, competitive society?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:05 PM
0

That’s only if you don’t want to learn or experience anything new or different
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:59 PM
1

OP only cares about time, not effort
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:57 PM
1

Wow, so many standards. Men sure are picky
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:56 PM

So? You can’t make people be with people if they don’t want to And alone doesn’t mean lonely or sexless Also, judging by how much work, nagging, frivolity, sacrifice, money and annoyance women are, sounds like most men are happier with servants, robots, porn, games and bros
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:41 PM
1

His intent was logical, yes. So ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:33 PM
7

Women complain about blowjobs all the time That’s exactly why it’s called a job
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:13 PM
2

People should do what they want, and not do what they don’t want, so we don’t have to listen to them whining
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:10 PM
1

It is. Either you care or you don’t. If we think being used for sex is bad, then it is, for us
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:08 PM
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I’m afraid we’re free to dislike objectification, just like you are free to like it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:05 PM
1

If you’re gone, you’re gone
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:47 PM
1

Criticizing an intent is not taking it personally. This has nothing to do with me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:45 PM
4

Divorce settlements Surveys
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:44 PM
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Whoever cares less has more power In anything* *in a free and consensual society
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:42 PM
1

You can consider a person nothing more than an object to be used for your gratification, yes. That is objectification, and the reason we use the term “sex object”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:04 AM
1

But it is possible. That’s why sex can be loving or impersonal. And you can treat people humanely or inhumanely
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:02 AM
6

The manosphere is a minority of men, by all indications
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:02 AM
5

Why else do you think advertising, branding and marketing are huge industries? Because they don’t work?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:39 AM
2

Because new is special and cool Even if its not Boy, you never studied business or marketing, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:17 AM
4

People need motivation to pay attention and invest. Thus, the rebranding of terms and concepts
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:08 AM
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Because he Asked Women, and I can give my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:38 AM
3

When you care about other people, you don’t do things they don’t like
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:38 AM
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It’s not, and we don’t like it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:37 AM
1

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:37 AM
3

Sure we can, if we don’t like it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:01 AM
3

They are normal men, who care about things other than their dicks. Like, for example, what women think and feel
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:00 AM
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Because it supports the narrative that men, not women, are disadvantaged
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:43 PM
4

Again, no one is oppressing your thoughts, unless you make them public
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:26 PM
3

Same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:25 PM
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You have the same privilege to dislike and complain about a woman staring at your butt A gym is a private entity that can make up its own rules for conduct. Annoying or harassing a person, both in public and private, has always been socially and legally discouraged. It doesn’t matter if it’s a pushy salesman, a crazy homeless guy, or a pervasive creep
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:01 PM
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He does, just not freedom from what he wants
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:51 PM

I don’t need to. The numbers of partnered and married people is well known
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:51 PM
3

Yes you are — you’re upset with people not liking your behavior. And I am one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:28 PM
3

So people naturally want to prioritize you over themselves? Why would they do that? I don’t want to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:25 PM

Because your complaining should be less important
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:20 PM

You’re supposed to be willing and grateful for the sex users
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:19 PM

The data begs to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:19 PM

No, because whoever suffers the most wins the moral high ground and the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:18 PM
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I can judge and criticize his motivations, since he freely offered them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:16 PM
3

I’m not the one thinking it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:14 PM
3

“:loss of or damage to a person's right, property, or physical or mental well-being”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:13 PM
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I’m not the one trying to find how many minutes he’s going to have to interact with the sex vending machine until it dispenses pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:01 PM
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I’m sure I’m not the only one But you do you — I think it’s best for all involved if you put in the minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:47 PM
3

C students get no respect from me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:21 PM
-2

Why is this important? Are you trying to determine the absolute minimum effort you have to put in ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:17 PM
5

Heresy!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:11 PM
8

Simple: Women aren’t afraid of other women I certainly am not
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:09 PM

Yes, we know the red pill is a reactionary philosophy/movement
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:51 PM
5

Why should people prioritize what you want over what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:32 PM
3

Alas
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:26 PM
2

Annoying someone is not imminent
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:20 PM
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When you’re only concerned with your own interests, you can be hypocritical towards others
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:12 PM
2

I am aware, yes. And I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:11 PM
1

Harm doesn’t have to be imminent, or even existent. Dislike is perfectly fine
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:08 PM
3

That’s every world. Nobody has ever been able to do whatever they want to anybody they want, whenever they want. Not even tyrants Part of being a social animal is considering other group member’s mental and physical existence
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:05 PM
3

You can if it affects you, and it’s often agreed upon and enforced by others
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:04 PM
2

But permitted, I’m afraid
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:02 PM
3

I think they should. And they are
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:59 PM
2

That’s fine. It’s not going to stop people from disagreeing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:58 PM
3

Actually, they are. Because your right to do doesn’t supersede their right to not be affected by your behavior That is why you will get removed from public places for interacting with people in ways they do not like, and punished if you object
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:57 PM
1

Of course it does. Because actions affect other people, while thoughts do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:54 PM
0

I consider that bad faith arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:52 PM
2

Sometimes being justified is more important than being correct
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:51 PM
5

And they’re still responsible for it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:48 PM
2

Staring, communicating, interacting are all actions that affect other people, which is why there are opinions and restrictions on them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:46 PM
3

Caring only about what you want. Which is fine, until others disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:45 PM
5

Lust is fine. Up until the point it annoys others Just like listening to music — you’re free to listen to whatever you want, as long as you’re not bothering others
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:41 PM
4

That’s because human interaction is dependent on mutuality, not strength
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:35 PM
1

No. Sounds clunky
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:30 PM
-3

That’s why settling is great, and prevalent
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:29 PM
3

Up until you interfere with other people’s freedom, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:28 PM
3

And you are deliberately confusing thoughts and actions. I didn’t say desire was threatening or harmful
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:27 PM
1

Yes, and men can understand not wanting to fuck someone
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:25 PM
4

I’m afraid that, by definition, other people deciding for you is not consent
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:24 PM
5

It is, because it’s my body, not yours I have no claim to your body, so you don’t have any to mine
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:18 AM
6

I, and many others, disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:17 AM
1

Then why do men joke about being raped in prison and not elsewhere ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:59 AM
4

Plenty of people are fine with being objectified. The point is that they are allowed to decide that, not other people
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:47 AM
3

Yes, because people want to do what they want, and also not do what they don’t want That’s the basis of modern western society. You get to do what you want and can — up until it affects other people I decide if I want to inconvenience myself or not, not you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:43 AM
9

I can see that the concepts of mutuality, reciprocity, autonomy, respect, rights and consent, at least for women, still anger and confuse you Just like they did in your past posts
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:30 AM
12

Well, lots of men would disagree with you that caring only about what a man can do for you is fine and dandy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:28 AM
2

No, I’m not comparing hetero sex to homo sex. I’m stating, contrary to your belief, that men can actually experience being sexually repulsed, threatened and intimidated, and therefore are able to understand what women feel They are not incapable of feeling or understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:24 AM
1

To you not to most of us
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:07 AM

I don’t see how you can But you can judge and criticize
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:06 AM
6

We’re talking about the men who don’t do those things, or do them poorly, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:05 AM
1

Yeah, so ? We all know that and still do it anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:03 AM
1

Then why is the first law of redpill to lift?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:02 AM
8

Now that I’m being told to complain, I no longer want to
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:10 AM
6

Oh, not on red pill We’d see it on r/dating, r/sex, r/niceguys, r/creepypms, r/nothowgirlswork, r/twoxchromosomes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:24 PM

If you don’t, it’s not romance, it’s transactionalism or coercion Which, let’s be clear, some amount of it is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:21 PM
8

You’re assuming these men know and/or care You nagging or berating them isn’t a reason for them to do either If they wanted to, they would already be doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:19 PM
2

It’s exactly what you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:19 PM

It’s a way to make us more enthused about sex, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:18 PM

You get paid in willing and sexy sex, the most important and meaningful thing women can do for men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:16 PM

Yes, but unfortunately pragmatic gifts are unromantic, and indulgent gifts are unmasculine, which leaves sex and feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:14 PM

Mood and sentiment And sex, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:53 PM
5

Well, then why is the question necessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:52 PM
7

Shhhhh….let them try. We might get great stories on other subs
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:51 PM
15

Yes, and you should definitely tell women this Especially if you’re trying to fuck them Please do this, men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:50 PM
1

There’s no reason to ask anyone to compare their attractiveness to that of the people they’re attracted to — except to interrogate the difference, if any
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:35 PM

Romance involves both partners, hate to break it to you If a man actually hates and doesn’t enjoy a candlelit dinner, or giving flowers, it isn’t romantic They are both romantic gestures, however
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:31 PM
2

It’s the same thing to me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:28 PM
1

I thought if you were improving you’re red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:28 PM
1

I’m not a minority, you are
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:26 PM

So? Both parties experience the feelings and other connotations associated with the behaviors labeled “romantic”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:25 PM
-3

Women aren’t men, lol. We can judge someone objectively attractive without wanting to bang them. Especially if they’re a stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:23 PM

Because women want it, and men have to be nagged and pressured into it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:17 PM
1

“Worth it” is not universal. Which is what the other commentator was claiming People can believe all those things are valuable and acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:29 PM
6

Oh, the prison scenario also proves that men understand that penetration isn’t a picnic, and lack of attraction makes sex unpleasant Do you believe that a man cannot be vaginally or orally raped by a woman ? Plenty of men, on PPD even, claim to dislike/ turne down sex with no relationship attached to it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:24 PM
-1

That a relationship has any benefits at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:07 PM
1

Ok, but then there is a point to pursuing, because you want it And there’s no survey of men which asks them whether pursing sex and relationships is “worth it”, so you can’t conclude that it’s indeed pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:05 PM
1

He said men don’t want sex or relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:28 PM
4

Correct, men can understand not wanting to fuck people who want to fuck and sometimes hurt or exploit you, and are capable of doing it by force You claimed that men cannot understand this My point about love is that men can understand what women want from men. And most women do not want sexless romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:17 PM

First we have to agree that women are delusional I do not Individual women, sure; an entire gender, no
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:14 PM
1

No one’s denying that We’re denying it’s the only way This is similar to the incorrect and self-pitying way whiners talk about looks (Only looks matter! Why was I lied to about it?!?)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:12 PM
3

Being a slave to your dick and simping is superior behavior? Mmmkay
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:08 PM
1

They’re not dumb, they just hate everyone, including themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:07 PM
7

You can understand our view just fine, based on the jokes you guys make about prison And you also claim to want love and families. Is that a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:05 PM
9

Loneliness, boredom and frustration is my guess
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:04 PM
1

I think he needs karma for this account. His PPD posts always get the most comments and attention Or maybe just attention
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:01 PM
23

I live in a major US city See one? Probably every day. Interact with one? Maybe once or twice a week, mostly as service workers I’m not single, so never. And I’m ugly-ish, so men do not seriously hit on me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:00 PM
0

Because they’re permitted to be/infantilized as emotional, dependent and weak, due to gender roles and social stereotyping
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:59 PM

Oh, so it’s all women’s fault that you have a bad background?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:35 PM
4

For the same reason you keep asking this question: Reddit karma, rage baiting, and oversimplification
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:50 PM

Are all autistic men exactly the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:49 PM

I don’t know where you’re finding all of these extractive women, but most of us don’t ask our female or male friends for money or gifts, just information, company and support — which, as you noted, men aren’t interested in
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:47 PM

Men here claim otherwise “Society/blue pill lies to us! They said looks don’t matter at all ! Male models and celebrities are mid ! How were we supposed to know that women liked hotness!?”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:10 PM
1

Nope. One is about existence, the other effectiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:10 PM
1

He wasn’t claiming it wasn’t worth it He was claiming there was no reason at all
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:10 PM
6

That’s a lot of words to say “ur wrong”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:08 PM
1

Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:04 PM

Pfff, Korea is, like, 6% of the world population Women love babies, marriage and ooey gooey romance. They’re dumb suckers for it, and always will be — just like men are for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:27 AM

Hey, we can always hope, no? Break the wheel!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:23 AM

So many of you don’t understand how data mining and social media algorithms work
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:30 AM
1

They do, they just take longer and longer to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:29 AM
1

Why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:28 AM

This is a new angle for you; congrats I think you would benefit from some change, though, now that you’re well into your 30s. You don’t want ranting on the internet to be the rest of your life, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:28 AM
1

Great, problem solved then
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:23 AM
0

That has nothing to do with friendship in particular
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:22 AM
2

Any behavior or group of behaviors can be learned or mimicked That’s what groups are for
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 11:01 PM
2

So you’re speaking on behalf of blackpill, or just yourself ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 10:28 PM
1

So you’re speaking on behalf of blackpill, or just yourself ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 10:27 PM
2

Hmm, didn’t know blackpillers were asexuals and avoidants/antisocial
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:56 PM
3

Right, but I’m talking about perception and social consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:55 PM
2

I do not see the blackpill talking about game and charisma — just bone structure, lookism, race, muscle, penis size (?) and height Oh, and being dark triad sociopaths
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:49 PM
1

There’s no point in trying to get sex and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:44 PM
2

You do know that lots of the trades, at least in my memory, used to be very macho and considered self care to be unmanly? If it’s totally different now, great; but the number of illegal immigrants I still see around doesn’t make me think it’s changed all that much
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:41 PM
4

They retired almost 20 years ago, bro And no one wanted to keep up the family business. Because it sucked, physically and financially
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:34 PM
1

I didn’t say it was bad, I just said it was the correct definition
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:32 PM
4

I don’t consider hiding my selfish feelings toxic, nor do I consider self control and emotional regulation bad for my mental health How is it possible that every single man who doesn’t have a therapist can refrain from harassing, staring at and catcalling women if humans are unable to conceal or ignore a single feeling ? Only infants are indulged in expressing any emotion or thought they have
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:26 PM
0

Then you’re not blackpill. The blackpill says looks are all that matters, and your chubby average friends are lying and paying women to sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:21 PM
9

My family had roofers and plumbers. It was hell on them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:16 PM
-1

Uh huh, that’s why they always talk about suicide, giving up, LDAR, “cope”, “it’s over for X-cels”, and being NEETs, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:11 PM
6

Intent matters. And sex especially matters to men, as the friend zone makes very clear I don’t demand 110% from anybody, but especially not platonic friends. And no one’s asking you for 110% — that’s an excuse you use to avoid responsibility. Nobody’s forcing you to do anything and you’re not a victim
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:08 PM
3

No, I just know what selfishness and self interest is I’ve had crushes on plenty of taken or uninterested friends. Hiding your feelings isn’t hard or an injustice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:07 PM
1

There’s 3 strikes, and we’re not proud of them, to be honest 1) status 2) lack of advancement 3) bodily damage I’ll also throw in a 4th — culture. I’m afraid sexist/racist/homophobic views are more common in the trades, or at least more visible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:48 PM
7

Yes, and then their bodies fall apart :( It’s painful to see
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:45 PM
0

Garbage is dirty, a health risk, and unwanted. There’s entire social and economic underclasses based on this stigma
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:43 PM
-2

Men always think “their” women are property, and vice versa It just depends on who’s getting the shorter end of the stick
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:40 PM
-2

Platonically or romantically?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:37 PM
9

They are children. As is anyone under 30
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:22 PM
2

If that’s what your female friends are like, they suck. And so do you, for continuing to associate with them In my life, women are the ones doing the heavy lifting in socializing — planning, organizing, communicating, cooking, ordering, trading information etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:18 PM
3

Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:03 PM
1

Single people are always on the prowl. And often unhappy that they’re single. This applies to both genders. When you’re partnered, it’s boring to talk about the other sex and how to get into their pants, which is often what singles want to do Conversely, when I was single, I didn’t want to hang around boring marrieds (ew!), especially those with kids (double ew!) Like it or not, it does make a difference, socially
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:50 PM
6

Ok, but this is why women don’t trust men Because your dicks are always the most important thing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:48 PM

Yes. It’s called trophy wives/second wives
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:30 PM
4

Yes, and I don’t deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:06 PM
2

No, being married vs being single will make people treat you differently
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:06 PM
-6

The point of the black pill is to give up
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:23 PM
2

Marriage/partnership is status
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:22 PM
3

What a bunch of self indulgent navel gazing Makes age gap relationships seem even more insufferable if that’s who is in them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:55 PM
1

Yes, people like being better than others
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:53 PM
-2

It’s true that it’s an excuse “Women/the devil made me do it!”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:53 PM
3

When fun means economic exploitation, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:51 PM
-2

No, because women want babies. And love/status
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:50 PM
1

Counterpoint: I don’t need a dad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:16 AM

An ideal dating market is perfectly honest and safe. And it is also impossible, because freedom means there will always be the choice to lie or do violence
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:13 AM
1

Of course we’re supposed to think of other people. That’s what all the woke stuff is about
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:06 AM
-6

yeah, but most of them are girls, with girl cooties, who don’t understand their male struggles
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:12 AM
1

I don’t know where you live, but I don’t find most people to be dysfunctionally selfish. We already model, teach and incentivize morals, civility and productive human interaction — if people choose to be shitbags, that’s on them I don’t believe that other people, groups or institutions should take precedence over the individual. Because they have proven just as likely and capable of immorality, corruption, prejudice and malevolence as individuals. Even God likes raining down hellfire and sufferi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:06 AM
5

Great, have at it Maybe you will be able to get over the aunt and the niece
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:55 AM

Dump her, obviously Women know it’s unattractive and you don’t like it, it’s up to you to show them how much If a man was that bothered by my weight gain, I’d want him to dump me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:51 AM
1

Sure ya will, champ
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:50 AM
1

I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:47 AM
1

I thought women got sympathy, concern, validation, gifts, compliments, compliments, and offers handed to them on a silver platter by society, simps, orbiters and options?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:45 AM
1

Sure you do. Choices make us selfish and shallow, while being a peasant farmer with no choices makes us altruistic and our relationships extremely meaningful and holidays
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:38 AM
1

Oh, you think people didn’t suffer in illiberal society?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 12:56 AM
1

You think things will be better for you if it goes bad for the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 12:55 AM
1

“My bf is wonderful, except when he does all these heinous things. Reddit, how do I magically make him not do these things; I’ve begged and cried but he just doesn’t seem to understand’”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 12:53 AM
1

You admit it. Good
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 12:19 AM

Nope. Life is messy and imperfect and unfair Deserve ain’t got nothing to do with it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:24 PM
2

Why do you want to hit a woman? Why is this something men always bring up?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:21 PM
2

Anyone who criticizes women for chasing Chad does
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 10:04 PM
3

Arranged marriages are just tinder between parents So it would require western parents/guardians to have power over adult children Sound likely or feasible?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 10:01 PM

Post title: abortion and men Post body: gender roles and…live fetal extraction (?!?!??!!!) I don’t know what this post is supposed to be, frankly. Is it an excuse to toss a throwaway reference to “paper abortions” at the end?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:57 PM
1

A mature adult who likes and doesn’t offend me Yay! I already won!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:49 PM
1

We’ve done arranged marriages in the past. Nobody seems to want to continue that Concurrent dating does happen but I don’t believe it’s prevalent. Who really has the time to do that regularly?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:47 PM
1

But somehow it’s okay for men to pursue beauty but not women 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:22 PM

Paternity tests are available You just have to go through the legal system Considering how normalized adultery is in French culture, it is not surprising that the government’s stance is to protect “family peace” above all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:17 PM
1

Why would we, when there’s no consequences ? In the past, there were real disincentives, like losing your job, family, community, freedom, resources or possessions. Now, there are none
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:02 PM
1

A thing of beauty is a joy forever, doncha know?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:21 PM
2

He’s single and has no kids, he can afford it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:49 PM
1

Not to people who are invested in it, no
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:45 PM

Your algorithm is not “everyone on social media”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:33 PM

This situation isn’t even worth wondering about, it’s so rare and specific
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:28 PM
2

Lecturing/nagging/bribing people never works What does work: poverty, lack of options/mobility, coercion
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:24 PM

Yes there is, because experience is a function of time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:24 PM
6

If it’s not consensual, these poor men are being raped
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:23 PM

What is actually said: looks aren’t the only thing What men claim we say: looks don’t matter at all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:22 PM

Same women eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:18 PM
36

“Especially when it comes to relationships” Gives examples that aren’t relationships Uh ok
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:18 PM
17

I think most women get horny, just not horny enough to go out and do dumb, unsafe things with strangers for sex only.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:47 AM
6

I recommend therapy and making some friends. You can commiserate with your coworkers, at the very least
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 02:13 AM
1

And how is that worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:01 AM

You can be neutral or indifferent
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:44 PM
24

How you doing man, you okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:38 PM
14

Lol u right At least this isn’t one of his more common rants
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:37 PM
2

Yes, men removing themselves from the dating conversation is very common That’s why many conversations are bizarre and illogical On the other hand, women often remove their agency instead of their behavior or presence
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:27 PM

If you don’t like women, or indeed people in general, it doesn’t matter how important it is — you won’t enjoy it Note that “not liking” is not the same thing as disliking/hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:23 PM
2

Why is it helpful to discuss outliers There’s always outliers
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:20 PM
8

Who is claiming attractive women don’t get attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:32 PM
1

That’s because I’ve seen what an exciting life is, and I also don’t need to feel special
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:24 PM
1

You don’t have to chase Chad to experience male malfeasance Normal men are perfectly able to harass, assault, insult, threaten, deceive, exclude, exploit, abuse and disrespect us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:12 PM
1

I don’t think normal/boring is bad. It’s just not special or notable
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:10 PM
1

You should obsess about it. It’s a productive way to spend your life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:09 PM
1

That’s your own choice, not mine
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:08 PM
1

Normal doesn’t mean dead
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:08 PM
1

Normalcy is depressing ? Ok, I guess you can find anything to be depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:08 PM
0

Boring just means normal. Normal guy, doesn’t do anything special I am boring. Most of the people in my life, regardless of gender, are boring. Nobody is going to write a story about our lives
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:05 PM
2

There’s not enough chads for a majority of women to not settle. 20% only
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:04 PM
1

Why wouldn’t they ? Rich powerful men exist in poor countries too, yanno, and transactionalism is a fact of life, not the exception
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:11 PM
1

They settle too. Everyone does, because that’s life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:10 PM
1

That is the important part. A boring nice guy will get laid if he’s hot. Most men are nice and boring, after all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:56 PM
-4

Still the prevalent outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:55 PM
3

Uh huh sure
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:55 PM
3

A nice ugly/fat girl isn’t sexy either, especially if she’s boring and desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:04 PM
0

And yet everyone settles, except for the lifelong singles We don’t think 2&3 are an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:02 PM
5

Men shoot their shots so why can’t we ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:20 PM
3

All men in monogamous relationships are settling, so they project this onto women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:05 PM
3

They are very capable at things when they want to be, and not when they don’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:56 PM

Who cares why? Dump em and find someone who isn’t shit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:51 PM
2

It’s not a just world fallacy Nice isn’t sexy, especially combined with boring, unattractive and desperate. This applies to either gender
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:49 PM
6

This would be a problem if the only way to get dates was approaching total strangers. Alas it is not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:35 PM
8

Most women cannot or will not become hot enough to snag a rich husband There’s just not enough of them to go around Sure, these men will fuck them, but marry? Naw, cuz they have options It’s easier for men to become top tier, because aggressiveness, risk taking, ambition, self interest and sociopathy is more prevalent and also more accepted in men than women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:28 PM
1

No, it was female employment and autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:26 PM
10

Porn stars/sex workers and other hot chicks are celebrities for men, and following them equally as icky
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:22 PM
5

I don’t see it, because I’m not feeding my algorithm with crap
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:21 PM
1

You can act accordingly without believing Organized religions are power structures concerned more with obedience and conformity than belief
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:18 PM
1

Uh huh; that one’s been threatened for decades
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:09 PM
1

The dating market is exactly the way it should be given the libido difference between the genders
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:07 PM
1

No, men are
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:03 PM
0

Men shouldn’t be forced to date women that hate them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:58 PM
2

He’s pretty good, as is Lilith
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:01 AM
2

Economic, legal and social dependence Result: falling birth/marriage rates and angry men groups like the GOP, red pill, MGTOW, incels and tradcons
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:55 AM
1

I’ll believe it when I see it. Pussy parades and sex strikes didn’t do shit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:53 AM
0

When was that? 8 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:51 AM
4

Lilith is still around, I assure you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:46 AM
3

Yes, and the market will correct itself
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:46 AM
12

Why are you salty when women are doing exactly what you want them to ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:45 AM
3

It’s not our fault if men are bad at doing what we want, like not being perverts, or cleaning up after themselves, or socializing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:37 AM
1

I assure you that there are plenty of liars and unbelievers among the religious Religion is largely performative, after all. It doesn’t matter what you believe as long as you say and do the right things Just look at the Catholic Church’s record with corruption and sexual abuse. They said and did all the things, and still have abusers, sinners and pedos in their midst
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:32 AM
9

Great, so the problem is fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:28 AM
5

Wow, what a massive, massive tragedy. Anyways…..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:28 AM
1

That’s exactly what you are proposing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:26 AM
6

Women settle, I assure you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:57 AM
0

Someone who is willing to use religion to get pussy and a social role would. It’s called survival
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:50 AM
4

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:49 AM
1

If you’re not going to be around here any more, you’re changing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:28 AM
0

Sure you can. People lie and fake it all the time. If you act and speak appropriately and conform, no one cares
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:24 AM
1

The underdiagnosis rate begs to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:23 AM
3

💃🕺👶💔👊😭✈️🏝️🇵🇭💕
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:22 AM
1

Is there a law saying you can’t ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:18 AM
1

You’re too young for that excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:17 AM
2

Aww, so everything is suddenly fine
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:14 AM
59

Yes, what is the problem ? Delusional women will be alone, as they should be
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:12 AM
1

Eh, we can easily say the same thing to them — it’s not our business
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:10 AM
6

I’m spreading hate when the OP is holding women responsible for everything men do ? Do we get credit for men “building civilization” then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:06 AM
2

By who? OP? We don’t have to agree with her
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:05 AM
3

If they wanted to, they would You don’t need women to force you to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:04 AM
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Either way, what we think shouldn’t matter If men should shut up about our bodies, women should shut up about men’s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:52 AM
3

Fixed, thanks Oh, so this is actually about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:50 AM
2

Thank you, but I was referring to your claims that women think sex with circumcised men is worse, and that circumcised men are less likely to wear a condom explicitly because they have less sensitivity Either way, I don’t really care what women think. It’s men’s bodies, and they should be the ones talking about it, not us
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:44 AM
1

If women choosing is the problem, then women not choosing is the solution, no? Yeah, so? I’d like men more if they didn’t suck so much
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:42 AM
2

Men seem to prefer being incarcerated, dropping out or whining on the internet to being better, contrary to your assertion
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:31 AM
5

It’s a crude and unaesthetic propaganda site, so no, I didn’t. Link me some scientific studies or government/mass media surveys on a site that don’t give me eye cancer and seizures and we can talk Until then, I am perfectly happy to shut my mouth while the men are talking It’s their wee-wees, after all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:25 AM
6

I’ve never heard of either of those effects. Got any evidence, or just biased websites? I am aware that this is an obsession of yours, so I don’t expect much objectivity and reasoned discussion I frankly don’t care — it’s not my body, so I don’t have a dog in this fight. The few men I have discussed the issue with thought of it strictly as an issue of social conformity, not morality, sexual function or bodily autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:17 AM
0

Easy. Circumcision only affects the man, and doesn’t affect whether he wants to have sex with you Babies affect both parents, and also make women less interested in having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:11 AM
3

If red pill actually worked on all women, most men would adopt it If buying a flashy car attracted all women, most men would do it If punching other dudes in the face was attractive to all women, most men would do it Because men will do anything for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:52 AM
3

What “works” for red pill doesn’t equal what women in general want It just works on women who want more attractive men who also play games
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:31 AM
3

That means more single/celibate men I thought you guys will burn down society/take away women’s rights/drop out of society/order sexbots rather than change Are you saying no, you’ll actually be better ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:19 AM
5

We do, that’s why so many of us are single
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:13 AM
4

So, women fuck men they don’t want, just like they did back in the good old days for men As always, female unhappiness is acceptable, male unhappiness is not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:05 AM
4

You can, you just don’t wanna
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:02 AM
6

Ok, so what’s the solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:07 PM
2

No, it’s because sex and love are selfish endeavors so conflict is inevitable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:04 PM
1

No
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:06 PM
2

I’m not doing everything I can because I have my own life But I do donate and volunteer, and vote of course
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:00 PM

Either we can do what we want, or we can’t Everything else is just window dressing or pushing your own selfish interests
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:31 PM
1

Every power known to man has attempted to control male horniness. None have succeeded
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:30 PM
8

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:29 PM
1

You didn’t, apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:26 PM
7

It’s not the shaming as much as the hypocrisy/double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:46 PM
2

Every guy [on PPD] is not millions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:42 PM
1

Be happy; some of those girls will undoubtedly get raped, and many others will have to have kids they didn’t want
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:33 PM
1

Yes, we know it is of paramount importance that women 1) fuck men 2) be hot while doing so. All other desires, like enjoying life or doing what they want, are invalid Because fucking is the biological function of women for men. An unused vagina is an abomination, and only men’s desires need to be fulfilled; women’s purpose is to do what men want — which is fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:29 PM
4

Nah, they know They just don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:16 PM
3

I don’t think she was offensive I see nothing wrong with not wanting to be bothered
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:15 PM
2

There’s not a million guys here
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:14 PM

There’s plenty of equally delulu men thinking that the stripper is into them, or that they have a special connection with a titty streamer because they paid her
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:56 AM
1

Whoever punches harder and cares less wins That’s men, in both cases
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 03:00 AM
3

Prove it then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:59 AM
5

We’re not denying it happens We’re denying that it’s prevalent
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:58 AM
7

Uh huh sure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:18 AM
7

Most of us get older, more tired, busier and less attractive In other words, ain’t nobody got time for that shit. Especially if you have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:16 AM
4

I don’t. Decency works just fine for most of us
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:07 AM
6

I guess they forgot who’s usually complaining about lack of commitment, fuckboys, pump n dumps and being “forever girlfriends”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:06 AM
5

Who’s seriously got time to fuck and fuck around as much as these men think we are ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:05 AM
4

I don’t consider kindness required, especially when someone else started it. You can just mind your own business
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:01 AM
15

And men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:55 PM
2

Spear bald in your 30-50s? I think not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:53 PM
2

Yes, so? That’s just because women aren’t men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:52 PM
4

Women don’t regularly go bald with age
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:47 PM
2

Externally, yes (the part that matters) Internally, no And there’s so much variation that this generalization isn’t much use
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:46 PM
5

No, I just said we’re not going to behave like men, in aggregate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:34 PM
4

Why? Who is it hurting if I’m not interested in doing what other people want for their own self interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:30 PM
3

A social norm that we don’t have to follow or entertain
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:24 PM
5

Zero vs some is still a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:17 PM
4

Same thing. We’re not going to react, in aggregate, the same way men do, in aggregate. That’s why percentages are a thing. For example, men outnumbering women 75% vs 25% on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:11 PM
2

I would take it as a mild rejection for me imposing my presence on him. Really? It’s rude to not want to interact with someone ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:01 PM
2

No. She didn’t insult him, she just played dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:56 PM

You can do that now very easily
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:54 PM
2

It is. It’s just expected She was being cheeky for the first response, and snarky for the second. If she’d been a dude, you would have said she was negging or something
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:51 PM
2

It will always be thus, unless gender is somehow eliminated
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:49 PM
7

Some women? Sure All women? No
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:48 PM
2

A sexual/romantic approach is an imposition. You’re not just trying to socialize
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:28 PM

The Rock disagrees
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:17 PM

Your entire argument is based on punching abilities Which is, ya know, like the child’s argument that they should get more cake because they’re older than their siblings
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:13 PM

That’s sounds like a problem reserved for people with too much time and energy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:42 PM

You gonna punch your grandpa out and then claim he’s not equal to you? How about your 3 year old male cousin?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:39 PM

True equality is equal murder and mayhem
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:39 PM

Obviously men are not, and can never be, equal either, because they all cannot bench press the same amounts
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:38 PM

So what? We do most of the replacement production
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:36 PM

Yes, when applied to people living in war zones, slavery, cults, primitive societies, etc., we’re all wrong So? Is that useful when discussing our own lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:34 PM
3

Imposing yourself on another person is rude She wasn’t rude, imo, she just wasn’t pleasant or accommodating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:27 PM
2

It makes you a presumptuous guy Why would I be in the wrong, if I didn’t initiate ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:22 PM

Actually, I believe they do know, they just don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:21 PM

Why should we shut up and take disrespect if we don’t have to ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:20 PM

They don’t do it by choice, obviously, so they have no idea why we would Or, probably more accurately, they don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:19 PM
1

Again, if you started it, you’re the bad guy I don’t like people bothering me for no other reason then their own selfish desires. You want to push it, I’m gonna give you twice that back and more to deter more disrespect Did I say she was nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:16 PM
1

That wasn’t even rude, lol. You impose yourself on someone who isn’t on the clock, they don’t have to be nice or accommodating If he had done that to me, he would have gotten a polite shutdown and then hellfire, instead of two mildly snarky replies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:09 PM

And again, since we don’t find as many men appealing, that’s not as big an issue as you’re making it out to be
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:06 PM

More of them probably would be, if it wasn’t for things like assault, harassment, threats, and their abortion rights being revoked
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:05 PM

No, because men aren’t to be questioned or disrespected, and women are trained to accommodate, defer and compromise
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:03 PM

Men make half the mess/activities and cleanup/manage a fourth of it….if you’re lucky. They also have their own demands — for sex, company, free time, activities Often it’s not worth the romance, sex, company and extra money 50% of my relationships were thus, so I ended them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:27 PM

It’s your projection. Just because you’re crawling the walls after a month doesn’t mean we are
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:24 PM

Oh, so women are only having fwbs/situationships with other women, not men? I have missed the memo on that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:23 PM

You do know that jobs, commutes, home maintenance, self-care and other time consuming activities exist, yah?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:21 PM

Yes, any woman can get laid at any time And we’re not, which is why you guys are so unhappy and dry dicked
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:20 PM

Of course not sexing means something, it means some dick is going unridden. Truly, a tragedy beyond all comprehension, but only to men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:19 PM

They simply cannot comprehend not fucking
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:18 PM

If that were true, we wouldn’t have to be bribed, indoctrinated and nagged into love and family by Disney, Hallmark, the wedding industry, rom coms, other media, traditions, culture, family, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:17 PM

To envy is human
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:14 PM
4

Your standards don’t make you mad. Ours do
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:14 PM

Nah, women who don’t date are whined about too. The birth rate! The incels! Selfish single women! The male loneliness epidemic! Whyyyyyyy does no one care about the menz, babies and society!?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:12 PM

Just because you guys would do it doesn’t mean we would Any woman could be a prostitute, slut or cheater on a level that few men ever could —- if she wanted to. I could order a dozen guys to my house in 20 minutes via social media if I cared to, but I don’t You’re just telling on yourselves, not women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:09 PM

That’s what men would do, yes. We’re not men Otherwise, fewer of you would be complaining of dry dick
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:02 PM
11

You guys are the ones complaining about not getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:00 PM

It isn’t That’s why men are so salty And use another gif; it’s cringe to double post
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:08 PM
6

You’re supposed to say “based”, old man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:05 PM

Yup. And that’s not fucking
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:03 PM

So? Why should you be treated like Chad when you aren’t Chad? I’m not a 19 year old model, and I’m not treated like one
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:03 PM

That’s still fucking and dating What, you gonna be picky about it…..like a woman?!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:01 PM
3

Defamation is defamation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:42 PM
2

Very little Next question
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:41 PM

Plenty of dudes here like to claim that they alone are excluded from the orgy. Which apparently goes on nonstop for two decades In real life….ain’t nobody got time for that if you’re being productive and normal
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:38 PM
6

Well, lots of the manosphere appears to be bitter divorcees and washed up Chads
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:28 PM

We’re not men, lol Our self esteem isn’t tied to fucking, and we’re not desperate for it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:24 PM
1

Lots of things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:52 PM
1

👍
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:36 PM
5

It was oddly specific and not mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:35 PM

Some content reflects reality. Others do not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:33 PM
6

You’re just butthurt that the content makers you like are being canceled and judged It’s understandable but still immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:26 PM
1

Complaining is totally legal, and not just about relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:24 PM
1

You deserve the opportunity. That’s it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:20 PM
6

The whiners require pushback It’s spring break; they’ll be here until Monday, then back to class
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:19 PM
1

He’s a troll; check his history
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:18 PM

Yes, that’s my point. It’s him, he just hasn’t been here whining lately Also, I just realized that it’s spring break 😂 All the whiners must be students
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:13 PM
5

Opinions and judgements are not facts Being mad that your fav is problematic is childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:11 PM
1

“I can kick your ass, bro; we’re not equal!” is an immature child’s concept of equality
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:10 PM
3

Everything you write in this sub is about yourself and your thoughts, so of course it’s personal Yes, you’ve been saying you’ve made a decision and are going to improve for weeks. You’re like those MGTOW guys who claim they’ve decentered women and yet talk about them constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:05 PM

The grass You must touch it Tooouuuch it C’mon; you know you need to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:50 PM

The regular whiners have come back. I wonder where Johnny’s been lately
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:49 PM

When you accept that not everyone wants what you want, things will not seem so dire You got nothing to do over spring break bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:48 PM

It’s due to a lack of empathy, consideration and imagination They only think of what they want, not what others want
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:47 PM
4

I hope you’re not skipping school, or are you on spring break?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:41 PM
8

Sounds like your main point is “exes are the devil”. You have a bad break up, bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:39 PM
6

You’ve been threatening to touch grass for weeks. You still haven’t done it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:37 PM

Playing dumb and patronizing is very unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:34 PM
21

All reasons are invalid, but only for women This is because not dating a man is inhumane treatment, according to men. Rejecting a man is denying him his entire reason for living, which is sex and relationships (Also, babies, suicide, enslavement, societal collapse and death, yadda yadda yadda)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:31 PM
7

Acknowledging race is not racist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:30 PM
1

No, I don’t agree with all of your many points. The one point I do agree with is the very definition of mainstream thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:28 PM
1

Still unrequited love
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:21 PM
4

They’re different, and still equal. Just like sexual orientations, religions, ethnicities, intelligence levels and ages
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:19 PM

Average guys are fucking and dating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:19 PM
12

I suppose that your age has caused you to mistake “equal” as “identical”. You will find out that they are not the same thing, especially in a court of law
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:52 PM
3

You could have just said “power is masculine”. Methinks the gentleman doth protest a bit too much. Or just likes to hear himself talk
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:50 PM
13

Bars are not brothels Private establishments can permit and enforce whatever standards of conduct they want
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:48 PM
5

Top answers are positive in both
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:46 PM

I’ve had many men in my life admit they have “one that got away”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:45 PM

It could be either, or neither. There isn’t just one choice
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:42 PM
2

Beta bucks simply means not pursuing or presenting oneself as alpha fucks
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:23 AM
1

They’re less likely to be fat/sedentary where you are, definitely. And I would reckon a bit less homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:19 AM
2

Oh, is that why you brought up rape? To “piss off a whole gender”? Beta bucks is nothing more than settling, which makes plenty of us do. You might even call it “choosing better” since we’re not chasing Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:07 AM
0

Nowhere did I claim that it was charity. The point of contention is effort No, men do not, and for logical reasons such as 1) women caring more about other things 2) homophobia/stereotyping
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:05 AM
1

No one said anything about drones until I pointed out your contradiction
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:16 AM
1

Well, you didn’t say that, which makes quite a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:08 AM
1

To the people in the relationship, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:08 AM
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Oh, so this only applies to women who powerful men have fucked previously — not subordinates, employees, or colleagues —- and only men the internet cares about? Very interesting, oddly specific, and suspiciously self-serving
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:07 AM
5

Either you’re getting money or you aren’t Either money is a motive or it isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:46 AM
1

That’s not what you said here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:44 AM
1

Beta bux is dating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:40 AM
1

Your claim that the losers of society, which the previous commenters identified as criminal bad boys, don’t get women Which contradicts one of the most common manosphere assertions, that women love criminal bad boys
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:25 AM
1

Sounds like you made up some bs that you can’t defend
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:10 AM
0

I fail to see how rape relates to dating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:10 AM
1

Yeah, and you didn’t clarify that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:03 AM
1

We can assume he was talking about criminal bad boys, because that was what the previous comment described. But you were talking about something different and didn’t clarify that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:51 AM
1

Yeah, and it works
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:47 AM
1

You didn’t clarify what you meant by “losers”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:46 AM
4

“and are able to provide for you more” “at a time when most people are broke” No? If it’s not important, why mention money twice?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:44 AM
1

Still can get you sex and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:29 AM
4

That relationships should be about financial support ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:28 AM
1

Not at all. I was challenging your changing of the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:27 AM
1

Yes. Like 14-15 being gaga for 19-20 year olds Teens are stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:25 AM
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When women get older, they often stop idealizing such age gaps And you make these relationships sound like thinly veiled prostitution, aka about money
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:19 AM
2

And why would you bring that up?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:16 AM
1

Beta bucks is always a thing, I’m told
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:08 AM
-1

Really, your job doesn’t matter? I thought women were all about hypergamy and better jobs ? Of course you can control your personality, ie the things you say and do
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:36 AM
2

The original comment was about bad boys
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:34 AM
2

In my mind, “crime” means malicious intent or selfish disregard for another’s wellbeing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:33 AM
1

So they get women, contrary to what you claimed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:16 AM
1

Why wouldn’t we? They voted him into office and continue to support him and his policies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:14 AM
1

They certainly argue that Who knows if they actually believe it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:47 AM
1

Yes, trump certainly showed women what men thought of them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:44 AM
1

So men never do this to women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:18 AM
1

So, do any good men exist? Or all they all just faking to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:10 AM
3

I though poor abusive criminals get lots of sex because women love abusive criminality?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:08 AM
1

So women show their hate for men by dating more than one guy at a time ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:03 AM
1

And how do they treat you in public If I went by the way men talk about women online, especially with regard to sex, I’d think men hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:51 PM
1

Being idealistic, giving, forgiving and helpful are moral failings?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:49 PM
1

Not necessarily. I don’t find decency to be effort
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:33 PM
1

Most women in abusive relationships are idealistic fixers who believe in change, second chances, and love fixing all. Or they’re desperate to avoid having to look for another bf after sinking so much time and effort into the current one m Or, their dysfunctional upbringing normalized disrespect and they only can see the toxicity when things are dire Life sure takes care of idealism and generosity
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:30 PM
3

Then the abundance of options that men are always whining about is meaningless too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:24 PM
1

Im not It’s true
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:17 PM
-2

Then he needs to go below his looksmatch Because pussy is worth more than dick
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:00 PM
1

Then how do you know women hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:59 PM
1

Since it’s a high end establishment, I’d believe most of what she said It’s not like this stuff is hidden — johns are always talking about prices and procedures
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:47 PM
1

Expecting anything else from compliments is dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:43 PM
4

Ah, this is so deluded it’s beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:41 PM
1

Sure thing, Mr Femoid Hater!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:40 PM
0

Your effort is not invalid. It’s just ineffective This is not just confined to dating, btw. Only children get gold stars for “trying” Do you expect acknowledgement for putting effort into your job that you only have to financially benefit yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:34 PM
2

Not so far. I don’t count many people as “loved ones”, btw; and my love is very conditional. I don’t believe family is special, for example, so I have cut plenty of them off for being sexist pricks and enablers. I know I could be wrong about my people, and I am very willing to put my money where my mouth is and cut them off
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:30 PM
6

All I had to do was a PPD search for the word “hornier”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:16 PM
2

Yes, that’s “polygamy”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 09:08 PM
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My loved one claims they didn’t do it. I have no proof that they are lying. Ergo, I treat them like they didn’t do it, unless new information is introduced Love means giving someone the benefit of the doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 09:06 PM
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I’m not going to be two faced about it. Either I believe they did it or I don’t. And I don’t “love” people who I think are confused about what sexism, harassment, rape, etc is — unless they are legally mentally incapable Like I said, OP doesn’t seem to be concerned with the truth, just how we would handle accusations in the absence of certainty about guilt
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 09:03 PM
-1

You can still update your resume, make calls, fill out apps, change your focus, look for new markets and locations and learn new skills — which is exactly what job seekers are told
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:55 PM
2

And what kind of hateful interactions are you having
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:54 PM
0

Those are the same people who believe men can’t be vaginally or orally raped
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:53 PM
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What, you think ugly people don’t fuck? I suggest you set foot in a Walmart
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:52 PM
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There are men here who claim catcalls are offers and validation Also, effort doesn’t guarantee success, especially if you’re doing it wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:48 PM
0

Yeah, he’s going to have to find a boring mid introvert with low self esteem, when they’re between their losers who won’t commit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:45 PM
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Of course. And he’s below average too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:59 PM
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Depends. If your effort is “hey, hey bitch —- I’m talking to you!”, then no
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:58 PM
1

Oh, women are making a special effort to verbally and physically assault you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:56 PM
0

Is nobody really hiring? Or are you just not qualified ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:54 PM
1

That’s lapse in memory, not deliberate malfeasance Unless you want to argue that sexual harassment is just a “misunderstanding”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:53 PM
0

If we hated you, you wouldn’t be ignored. You’d be hated
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:57 PM
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When half of them have never approached a woman, a third say they’re not looking, and most have few or no friends, I’m going to doubt that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:56 PM
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I don’t, because I’m ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:55 PM
-1

I said it was effort, not virtue
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:49 PM
-2

Well, not all men are like you 🥇
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:48 PM
-1

Whaaaaaaat? I thought we got attention, money, compliments, validation, prizes, value, gifts, favors, love and a silver platter to put it all on?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:47 PM
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You’re happy together
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:44 PM
3

Of course. We spend lots of time, money and effort doing the one thing men want from us — improving our looks Entire gigantic industries serve this demand
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:42 PM
-1

Or annoyed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:38 PM
3

I assure you that both genders cheat, and both genders are aware of that fact Here’s the difference: women could cheat to infinity with little effort. And yet, we don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:38 PM
4

Polygamy is the male fantasy Twoo wub happily ever after princess weddingpalooza is the female fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:21 PM
7

In order to “struggle”, you would have to be actually trying and putting in effort
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:19 PM
6

Since more men are single, they’re the ones with more unrealistic standards
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:17 PM
1

You can report him
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:13 PM
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You can read the posts and make your own decision
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:11 PM
2

I don’t think the point is whether they did it or not, but you should ask OP. They are being deliberately vague about that part They are concerned with “support”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:04 PM
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Nope, that would make me a hypocrite I wouldn’t want my sexual harassers loved ones to take their side, so why would I do it back to them? Their loved one is shitty, and so are they That’s exactly why this stuff continues — there’s little consequence
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:03 PM
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Most women want kids, sorry to break it to everyone. I suspect that this is both inborn and socially created, and thus virtually ineradicable And thus, they will always be forced to deal with men, and not just as sperm donors
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:09 PM
2

Porn falls under sex work, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:06 PM
1

The former And yes, all the rest too. This is widely accepted in sociology/anthropology/biology in general
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:49 PM
1

They don’t care about places where men are winning, because they’re not nice places
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:40 PM
2

Because oppression is socially and economically expensive, obviously That’s why china is always going to stomp all over Saudi Arabia
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:38 PM
0

Men, duh. We don’t have a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:37 PM
1

No, men have an additional motivation to exploit, and a very important one — sex I don’t believe there’s a group of powerful female leaders who exploit underage boys through systematic sex work. Nor are family matriarchs molesting their young relatives
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:32 PM
3

Men are the biggest misandrists
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:24 PM
15

“She didn’t peg you, so you’re fine, bro. Man up”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:24 PM
12

Aw, all disagreement is lying. A foolproof response
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:21 PM
7

That is a common ethos in porn, most paid and unpaid sex Just ask the Greeks and Romans
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:09 PM
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Sure they can. Some men here even profess unhappiness that the women in their lives are only looking for sex with them And of course hetero male sex workers exist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:08 PM
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I would think posting the same thing a dozen times counts as spam. Or at least mental illness
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:06 PM
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Ah, the old reliable https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/aoBvs8tNTl https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/CasxSzIfng https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/G4MPP9OIbY https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/fK51AP9pZr https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/8Gw19anE4t https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/yORPmccujK https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/Vf0YWxBkST https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/xIXMLiWPse https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/vIzs…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:47 PM
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Either you believe the person, or you don’t. And you said there was no evidence save testimony. I assume the point is that there is no way to tell who is lying/telling the truth If I love them, then they are someone who I think would not do such a thing. I don’t love people who I think could be creeps and sexists and predators Their job, as someone who is a “loved one”, is to not be scum or lie to me. If evidence to the contrary comes out later, then they have violated that part of our agreement…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:27 PM
1

Of course you have to hyperbolize
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:21 PM
1

People have been warning about young dudes in China, India, the Middle East (suicide bombers!) for decades. Nothing has happened
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:19 PM
1

I propose we develop artificial wombs and better sex change technology so that you can personally help men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:11 PM
2

If you cared about your partner, you would force yourself to do it. Guess you don’t love him — men here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:48 PM
2

If you’re dominant in all other areas, not being dominant in one is particularly grating
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:44 PM
3

If that woman likes bullies or being bullied, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:43 PM
1

Not the way men seem to
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:40 AM
3

It’s not a fantasy. Normalcy works for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:33 AM
1

Sounds like you’re still in the anger phase
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:27 AM
14

Again, not about abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:26 AM
-2

I don’t love it. Being a slave to your desires isn’t dignified or respectful If a man is being coy, he doesn’t really want you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:40 AM
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The same way I would about any other untrue accusation. Tell them to shut their mouth, get a lawyer, don’t draw attention to yourself, be calm, be civil, and deny, deny, deny
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:36 AM
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My body my choice refers to abortion, not sexual judgment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:35 AM
1

If you want normal women, get more attractive, interesting, successful and social If you want damaged or unethical women who like to play games, do all the things you listed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:33 AM
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I’d rather date and marry someone who is more like me than different to the point that we require separate standards and moral codes Luckily, I am free to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:30 AM

If there’s no demand, there will not be a supply
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:47 AM

You don’t have to
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:46 AM

Looks like he and the daughter are farming drama for attention and money And it’s working
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:27 AM

That is beyond this sub to speculate responsibly and accurately, because anonymity But I suspect your flair may have something to do with it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:22 AM

Men have no options tho
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:21 AM

No, they just pretend things are shitty, based on stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:19 AM

Great; you know what to do then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:18 AM

Why you gotta ruin it for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:18 AM

Some people don’t actually have $50-200 or mobility or hookers in the area. It’s rare, but possible
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:16 AM
2

You still don’t have a rebuttal
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:04 AM
1

There was no debate
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:54 AM
3

Oh, even worse
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:35 AM
1

You put way to much faith in one fringe academic While disregarding what the money and data clearly says Also, people are not dying from the Covid vaccine en masse, and lizard people do not exist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:19 AM
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No, because it’s immoral
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:17 AM
0

I’m glad everyone know what slang is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:15 AM

A minority fetish/paraphilia
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:14 AM

Men have bodily autonomy. Up until the point another person’s body is involved
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:26 PM
1

Another day, another generalization
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:23 PM
3

Young people do not use Facebook. Even I, and old, know this
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:08 PM
1

The one where you think about what you wrote in your OP
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:45 PM
10

Probably not….but now AI exists. But that’s the crux of the matter. Women don’t want to watch strangers fuck as much as men. Emotional investment is the appealing part
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:31 PM
5

Because sex benefits men while money benefits women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:30 PM
18

The ideal porn would be adding explicit sex scenes to tv/movies/media that already exist
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:21 PM
11

Not as old as “unrequited love”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:19 PM
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Yes, young people need new words to make them feel cool and special Friendzone, simping, hypergamy, sigma, Chad, main character syndrome, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:55 PM
-1

Men don’t care if it makes sense. It’s just not in their interest, so it’s bad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:48 PM

Sounds like they want women to be in constant contradiction. Or they want more than one woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:47 PM

Women don’t get the ick when they’re with men they are truly emotionally invested in See: bad relationships where they refuse to leave
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:57 PM
4

I didn’t agree, I just gave your self-pitying hyperbole the exact amount of seriousness it deserved
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 12:41 PM
4

Who says we trust men? That’s why laws exist Men have both the means and the motive to oppress us, so they used to But currently, there are effective carrots and sticks that disincentivize oppression — laws/law enforcement, opinions/shaming, prosperity, entertainment, more sexual options and comfort/technology. There’s more to lose for individual men, and more to gain for society
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:30 AM
2

Many people have noted this
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:30 AM
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We also fuck Chad, be bisexual, twerk, charge our phones, eat hot chip and lie
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:26 AM
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He hasn’t for years
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:00 AM
2

You can have all the feminist policies in the world, and they won’t do anything for fertility if you feel you have to give up your job to be a mom https://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20230511000073
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:54 AM
7

Gold digging is informal, implicit and high stakes Sugaring is formal, explicit and low stakes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:08 AM
3

🎶No, I don't want no scrub A scrub is a guy that can't get no love from me Hangin' out the passenger side Of his best friend's ride Trying to holla at me 🎶
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:06 AM
7

Facebook is for boomers, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:03 AM
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Also, women being empowered is “disturbing” How dare they!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:02 AM
5

I’m bored of his shit too 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:00 AM
13

Then why are you here, again and again? You must like it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:58 AM
4

Sure, and that homeless dude will use your dollar to buy food, uh huh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:48 AM
20

Also from OP https://np.reddit.com/r/FreeSpeech/s/ExfMD55tVc “Things I’ve said in the past and my history of repetitive behavior isn’t relevant!”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:47 AM
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His 5th post on this particular account. There have been many others
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:33 AM
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If women are being “mildly challenged or questioned in public” by you, you’re not minding your own business
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:13 AM
14

It’s so he can be justified in complaining, of course. If we could see who he was, everyone would blame him for being a loser, not women or society
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:11 AM
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This is repetitive soothing behavior. Probably the only thing that makes him feel alive and significant
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:10 AM
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You complain about all the many ways women do not want you, so you are not an attractive guy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:05 AM
6

Men are oppressed, doncha know? By their own desires and drives, which are also not their responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:04 AM

Wonderful, moral, natural men, doncha know?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:03 AM

Exactly. Which is why all this date angsting sounds dumb as hell to me My social circle has never done dinner dates
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:35 PM

The music version is “there’s always an Asian girl who’s been chained to a piano longer than you”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:33 PM

Do you not like to read paragraphs?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:32 PM

lol, talking all about the “business”, value and buying people, and then getting disgusted when you realize it doesn’t just apply to you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:29 PM

They doth protest too much, yes Or, they are in a shitty environment where people are indeed telling them they have no worth
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:26 PM

People who say women are lying are lying If they really believed it, they would be cruel, emotionless, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:24 PM

Men are the thing men are protecting us from, so no, I’m not going to be grateful for extortion
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:22 PM

Dinner dates are dumb and excessive. Having to chew food and have conversation? Yuck. Just drink something and order a bar snack if you really can’t go a couple hours without stuffing your face Movie dates are also pointless, since you shouldn’t be talking
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:18 PM

I am told men only think about nothing, sports, food and sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:16 PM

You mean tourists doing wedding photo shoots ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:13 PM

Yup. And sexism, gender roles, the whole nine yards
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:12 PM

Aww, you’ve discovered what introversion and emotional labor is. Congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:11 PM
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If you don’t care, why bother discussing, prescribing, describing, proposing and postulating? If you think what people are doing sucks (which is exactly what your OP is describing, the ways people suck) then you are assuming people suck Preventing people from making poor choices is the very definition of protecting them from themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 10:55 PM
1

Fine. No romantic incentive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 10:33 PM
1

Then there’s no incentive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 10:29 PM
1

That’s a lot of words to say “you’re dumb, shallow and selfish, and thus need to put others first and be protected from yourself” Not the most appealing message
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 10:11 PM
1

That’s not what men say. Why don’t you believe men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 09:52 PM
2

Your concern for women’s interests is so touching 🍪⭐️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:29 PM
2

I’m not crying I’m just noting current conditions
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:19 PM
2

Sure, countries with lots of poverty, too many people and not enough land, water and resources are totally stable and prosperous
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:25 PM
1

People also thought the world would become a Malthusian hellhole of starvation instead of an epidemic of obesity
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:04 PM
2

Hasn’t happened yet 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:58 PM

I just told you. The other stuff was love goggles
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:07 PM
2

Interesting So you’re physically afraid of strange women ? Like, you won’t be alone with them, get in an elevator with one, ride in a car or subway with them ? What do you do in public toilets? Do you keep female friends at arms length the way I do male friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:04 PM
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The libido disparity explains almost all dating issues Why are women pickier? They don’t have cumbrain Why are men desperate? They have cumbrain
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:01 PM
1

The male libido is cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:59 PM
2

Also, society is the one that rewards certain specific types of masculine aggression — ambition, athleticism, competitiveness, risk taking, self aggrandizement — with money, praise, authority and success. Without that, you’re not going to get hordes of women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:53 PM
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You can’t build a competitive economy off religious nut jobs, you can only subsidize them And Israel gets plenty of subsidies, just not from oil.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:46 PM

Of course. Because as we all know, looks aren’t everything. Even men know this I was goo goo ga ga over an objectively ugly guy —- because he was a poet! And a writer! Swoon! So artsy! So sensitive!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:43 PM
1

Really? You’re physically afraid of women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:42 PM
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Smarter, possibly. Definitely not as hormone addled, energetic, and impulsive More experienced, no But that is not a common scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:38 PM
1

SK has a strong patriarchal culture. Israel just happens to also have a ton of immigration, outside funding and religious nut jobs, not just traditional conservatives. That’s not available to most modern patriarchal cultures. Once the oil runs out, lots of patriarchal Middle East countries that appear to be doing okay will be fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:36 PM
3

No, it means that patriarchy is less successful in modern societies, at least as far as fertility goes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:26 PM
1

Yes. That is the difference between a patriarchal westernized country vs a non-patriarchal westernized country
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:09 PM
3

Does a healthier birth rate mean a nicer place to live?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:07 PM
2

That is not what the data says
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:06 PM
1

Yes. A lot of trans people are neurodivergent as well
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:02 PM
1

Receipts needed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:02 PM
2

Citations needed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:01 PM

There’s a difference between “meh” and “ew”, if you didn’t know
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:27 PM
-1

It’s not; younger people are dumber and more ignorant. Because knowledge and experience are a function of time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:26 PM
2

I date people, not numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:25 PM
10

A decrease is not a collapse
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:22 PM
6

We already know about safety concerns, vetting and social proof. And not just in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:43 AM
5

The decreasing crime rate seems to indicate that they aren’t. As does all this “feminization” of society that the manosphere/conservatives complain about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:40 AM
1

“A few women” = most women? All women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:39 AM
5

That all sounds more like they don’t get what they want from them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:37 AM
1

Moving requires muscle. Men have more of that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:30 AM
2

Neither do women. And there’s no question who is stronger and faster
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:21 AM
1

Well, if the non worker got sick or disabled and/or died….would it be as bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:20 AM
2

If the worker is abusive or shitty, what are the non worker’s options? And does the non worker not also lose a house, money, food, etc, that they had access to previously? Why would they be exempt from the effects of job loss?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:23 AM
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It’s in their interest, that’s why
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:22 AM
3

I don’t fear women, because they have neither the means nor the motive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:21 AM
1

Then I go to jail No thanks; I’d rather have you go to jail
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:20 AM
2

“Banana bitch” That’s a new one
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:18 AM
1

Shhhh; let them tell on themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:16 AM
1

I agree, but most men know. The men in my family, though sexist, were under no illusions. And the men I keep in my life are similar
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:15 AM
3

It is helpful to see who likes to deny our lives, isn’t it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:14 AM
1

It’s useful to see who denies it, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:12 AM
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Sorry, I don’t fear any woman. And I’m a small woman
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:12 AM
3

I do love it when men dismiss our lived experiences It would be worse if they pretended to be concerned, accepting and knowledgeable
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:10 AM
1

That’s where the concept comes from
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:00 AM
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Protective dad is a stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:50 AM
0

He’s not Johnny autism He’s Hoosker-doos and at least 20 other alts. Someone made a list a few years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:46 AM
14

Your greatest competition is actually singledom, which can be preferable to low value, unattractiveness, desperation and simping
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:44 AM
1

They seem about equal in effort, but I know who’s got less status and is fucked if things go south
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:42 AM
1

“Do unto others” is good “Put others above you” is not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:39 AM
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Any protective dad will be letting you know. And of course our female relatives
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:36 AM
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We already do. It’s called normal socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:23 PM
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Considering all that women do to protect themselves, and how we are constantly warned about how horrible men are from the time we are children —- pretty much every woman has still experienced some sort of bad behavior from men that they wouldn’t from women But it’s good that you push back against our narratives and experiences. That’s the only way we will get the message that we are irrational and unreasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:30 PM
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That’s the scenario you have idealized. Either we can never have a meaningful relationship with anyone we didn’t grow up with, or we can. Also, people come in all sorts of flavors. Many of them suck. This is precisely why I have cut off most of my extended family and replaced them with people who treat me with respect and affection, instead of judgement and utility
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:25 PM
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A decision without options is not a choice at all And given the choice, we do not want to date, fuck or marry whoever is nearest and easiest. Because we’re not all the same, and many of us suck
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:50 PM
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We’re not talking about women but bros
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:55 PM
1

That’s your opinion, which basically idealizes dependence and lack of options
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:29 PM
1

Just saying that’s why some people don’t do it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:25 PM
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That’s funny that you think the only way you can treat and consider someone a “whole ass person” is if you have no choice
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:24 PM

It’s called learning
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:29 PM

🍪 🏆 🏅 ⭐️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:25 PM
1

Why do you assume money is changing hands ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:15 PM
1

They’d change the law. Abortions for everyone! Mandatory vasectomies!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:13 PM

They want priority but not responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:12 PM

Many men are after casual sex, and aren’t restrained about it, thus cockblocking the more restrained And women are fine going without. Especially since we get the short end of the stick in sex, cohabitation and child rearing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:10 PM
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Some people do not need it. My grandfather chain smoked, sucked down whiskey and beer all day, never exercised, never went on a diet, never drank a glass of water, and only died at age 93 because a bus hit him
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:56 PM
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Passport broing just means going abroad for better sex or dating options, most commonly due to economic imbalance Because traditional roles and sexual commodification are correlated with poverty and lack of female education Thus, people will be critical
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:55 PM
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Passport broing just means going abroad for better sex and dating options. Usually due to an economic imbalance From the OED: fet·ish·ize verb gerund or present participle: fetishizing make (something) the object of a sexual fetish. "women's bodies are so intensely fetishized" have an excessive and irrational commitment to or obsession with (something). "an author who fetishizes privacy"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:52 PM
1

Assuming something of a place you’ve never been to is the very definition of exoticism, aka fetishizing the unfamiliar
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:33 PM
1

Because genetic diversity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:29 PM

People haven’t earned a clear rejection from me, either platonically or romantically
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:28 PM

Depends on your workload and abilities
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:27 PM
1

Fetishizing/stereotyping/idealizing the unfamiliar is common
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:23 PM
1

No, because she’s not a dependent
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:19 PM
1

Passport boring is not illegal, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:03 PM
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And how is that any better or worse than the reasons we used to choose people — convenience, proximity, availability, advancement, affordability? People want to be happy and successful, and always have. Literature and history certainly indicate this And I certainly wasn’t taught about height, fetishes, bootlicking, tyranny, hair color etc in school, media, and other socialization
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:58 PM
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Why do you think we were different in the past? Also, let’s see some proof about how people are making choices
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:52 PM
1

Why do you think we were different in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:51 PM
1

The truth, it doth be inconvenient https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/04/30/worldwide-optimism-about-future-of-gender-equality-even-as-many-see-advantages-for-men/ https://np.reddit.com/r/WouldYouRather/s/T93HwSywQF https://np.reddit.com/r/pollgames/s/LFgkZok7tN https://np.reddit.com/r/polls/s/CY202LFQYw https://np.reddit.com/r/WouldYouRather/s/sgyLL1c6cU https://np.reddit.com/r/WouldYouRather/s/h6IdCC9PNy https://np.reddit.com/r/WouldYouRather/s/J4xDQn8JqB https://np.reddit.com/r/polls/s/B…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:40 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/04/30/worldwide-optimism-about-future-of-gender-equality-even-as-many-see-advantages-for-men/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:35 PM
1

Oh, that also happens, but humanity is diverse
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:31 PM
1

Please. They’d abort those kids rather than have to go through pregnancy and childbirth
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:30 PM
2

As everyone knows, not avoiding or rejecting him
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:58 PM
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I hear from men that sex and validation are the most important things in the world to them, their reason for living and building civilization, so they seem to be getting exactly what they most desire
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:57 PM
1

Nope. I separated them very distinctly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:14 AM
1

Oh I’m not talking about history I’m talking about the last 70-80 years of social progression
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 01:43 AM
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Most people don’t decide based on one or two things They also usually settle
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 01:28 AM
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Depends on the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 01:27 AM
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I don’t agree that most people do that, and if you do, the dating process, including engagements and cohabitation, will remedy that as intended
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 01:24 AM
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I’m afraid that the evidence is pretty clear about choices and autonomy, and who did and didn’t have it previously Having said that, human society isn’t vastly different than it was a hundred years ago. Most people still marry, reproduce, work, have family and community
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 01:19 AM
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I don’t see fetishes normalized or promoted in mainstream society Most people believe in love, money, kids and family. The only difference is that now both people are expected to have similar contributions, instead of vastly different ones strictly defined by gender
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 01:18 AM
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They don’t That’s what settling is all about And women all have pussy, which counts more than anything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:16 PM
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You just said it, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:16 PM

Some do, that’s why butch and femme is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:14 PM
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It’s not illegal. You don’t get fined or imprisoned for attempting to commit suicide. Encouragement is coercion and manipulation, which is illegal for all sorts of decisions, not just suicide
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:13 PM
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That’s the point about being desperate/pickme You’ll take anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:02 PM

That’s because you don’t want to be dominated or protected
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:00 PM
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None of these are gender specific
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:59 PM
3

Is it, if he’ll take anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:55 PM
0

But the stripper was into me, man! She smiled!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:45 PM
2

It’s more likely that a man hasn’t had a woman be desperately infatuated with him, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:41 PM
1

Because abusive, unhappy, unsatisfactory and toxic relationships are common
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:39 PM
0

Men know it sucks. They just want to have the advantage in sex, the one part of life where women have it easier
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:10 PM
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That’s not what the data indicates Men know it sucks to be a woman — except in getting the sex that we don’t want as much
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:09 PM
2

Boy howdy Also, the birth rate would tank
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:04 PM
1

If the Greeks and Romans could go gay, why couldn’t I ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:00 PM
0

Passing trans people exist, just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:59 PM
1

Passing trans people exist, just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:58 PM
0

That’s their choice. They can decide whether or not they will find other things or keep trying — it is not our place to force them to do anything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:55 PM
3

Desperation in this context means desperation for a relationship, not for sex within an existing relationship That’s the whole point of being a pick me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:53 PM
5

Really? You find fawning, begging, whining, nagging and simping hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:41 PM
0

We care. We’re just not going to do what you want, which is the whole reason you’re committing suicide over us
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:38 PM
1

I didn’t say fetishes were wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:47 PM
1

TIL learned that suicide and murder are the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:47 PM
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Because no one likes desperation Not even men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:44 PM
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