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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQOyXlsoS04 Bill Burr is a classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:19 PM
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Yeah, This is what I always go back to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:18 PM
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You continue to be an endless fountain of insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:14 PM
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a lot of court proceedings (in the US) are recorded and public record, so you may be able to just search your county/city courtcams and watch live, as though you are sitting in court as is your legal right. Since covid many court preceedings are still remote, and uploaded to youtube/online. There are some channels dedicated to family court, but generally for a specific area the channel owner is interested in. Point is, no data here, but having watched these child support almost always come up as…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:12 PM
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What if he promised some other thing? He's sterile, vasectomy, "wrong hole", ect.. What if he said it years before they started dating but things changed since then? There are literally infinite ways to lie and mislead. That is why 'he said/she said' is so universally mocked as a legal standard. No sane person wants to go down the path of "anything you say is legally actionable". Cops literally have to warn you about that when you are arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:04 PM
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You should watch courtcams.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:57 PM
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Mate, do you realize the irony of arguing what women 'reveal' about themselves with all this incredibly revealing rant? That said, I am actually curious what you think women reveal in their arguments against passport bros. You never actually mention it. I suppose one line of "how close the man lives" might allude to it but distance is not the argument people make against passport bros, so their is nothing to reveal there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:54 PM
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I think you already answered why this is all nonsense with "The only exception would be if the woman could prove that the man ejaculated in her intentionally after promising to pull out." The rabbit hole of caveats will never end and always rely on 'what was agreed'. Or, we just decide that both parents need to support a child, no matter the circumstances and rather than a rabbit hole of infiinite 'what if's' there are select few ways to give up parental rights, because the responsibilities are …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:48 PM
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Nice save.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:42 PM
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What makes it a set of information rather than a set of beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:24 AM
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It's not a set of information. It's an ideology, one that that often very explicitly ignores ethics or social etiquette. Hiding behind the label of 'science' won't change that. It is a set of beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:18 AM
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Context. Your missing context, intentionally if I had to guess. The way you switch around the topic name and content from 'as many women as' to 'as many men as' is a likely indicator if your real motives and beliefs. That man hating women are fact, and woman hating men something you might believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:10 AM
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Its really weird that you would conceive of a world where women don't enjoy sex as the hypothetical where sexual assault no longer exists. It's not even weird in the way I usually see here, It's weird in an entirely different concerning way. Usually it's just "this guys an asshole using 'hypotheticals' to blame women for something". This is like something written by an alien. The two are too closely related to be the random musing 'what if' but not close enough to actually make sense in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:57 AM
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Nope. They just see your every post and comment about women and understand the narrative. I.E. how all the things you say correlate to one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:10 PM
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The bluepiller that thinks women are so wonderful they disregard a fair and equal system of justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:15 PM
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Asking a strawman you created why it's a strawman is pretty weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:46 PM
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Then I'll give you the same opportunity. That guy was very explicit about the intent of Dread. "It means to increase the competition anxiety passively." So whatever other reasons a person might have for self improvement, Dread is specific and explicit. Explain to me how it is not manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:01 PM
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Makes sense. Obviously women have more to gain from lying about people you know, because you're the center of the universe, therefore people near you are important. They must be, they know you. All those people that don't know you and you don't know are inconsequential, therefore women have less motivation to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:40 AM
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Yes of course, the 'self-entitlement' of wanting people to call things what they are. Isn't that what you morons are always advocating? blunt direct truth? Guess not when it means pointing out what losers you all are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:36 AM
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There is no 'desirable' alternative to a blatantly sexist moron that is not also blatantly sexist and stupid. It's what you all like so much about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:34 AM
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Right, because we all think that's the entire list of things people should do. 3 things and bam! instant success. Anything less and it was all a lie. Moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:22 AM
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Alright, fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 07:04 PM
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"When people are held to a higher standard they will experience more inner growth and self awareness." Please. Even the common view of cops and politicians disproves that bullshit. You know that is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 07:00 PM
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Those assertions are meant to speak in a direct manor that focuses on results, you know, the thing dudes here are constantly insisting they want and is the correct way to view things. If you don't want that fine, but it has been literally what men asked for and given for quite a long time. Blunt, direct, and doesn't care about your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:57 PM
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"Men have always owned up to their flaws as a generality" I think maybe you need to brush up on you history mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:53 PM
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Did you forget that you argue in favor of abortion? This is how I know your opinions are worthless. You don't actually understand or care what your arguing, and certainly don't have an opinion besides "fuck everyone, I know what'll set them off"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:50 PM
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Honestly the mods should just switch this sub to TRP already. The vast majority of posts are just the impotent rage of Tyler Durden wannabe losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:20 PM
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TL;DR: If you're an asshole then I see no reason to not be an asshole based on one singular selfish motivation; getting laid. Ethics are meaningless and without value when you only care about hedonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:10 PM
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This is kind of amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:05 PM
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Your 16. You don't know shit. Just stop thinking your clever and all is well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:01 PM
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Or your little fantasy doesn't happen. 'This or nothing' is meaningless when you don't actually have the power to enforce it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:00 PM
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Maybe you can answer a question for me. I browsed your history a bit and it looks like your a musician. There is this annoying ass 80yo musician I know that thinks he's hard and always talks about beating up libs or whatever. Why TF do musicians think they are hard? I just don't get it. Not even talking shit right now, it's legitimately confusing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:45 PM
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How to spot a keyboard warrior 101: 'I'll throw hands in real life bro" "my gf is 20 years younger like really" "See how great a guy I am" "My super hot gf loves me more than anything"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:26 PM
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TL;DR: I can and will be as much of a piece of shit as the law allows me to be and expect to not be judged in any way for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:28 AM
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Or, how about we don't try and adopt the dumbest most asinine arguments these dudes come up with. Don't try and dumb your argument down for them, they'll beat you with experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:24 AM
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Mate, just saying that the girls you totally really date aren't doing anything creepy doesn't necessarily mean you are not doing anything creepy. Poor comparison because of the differences but nobody blames a 16yo for dating a 30yo. They blame the older person. Now, if you can understand that then you can understand that just saying "some women like it" doesn't say anything about you, and people will still call you creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:17 AM
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Yeah, definitely has that "don't tax the rich! I'm gonna win the lottery" vibe to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:12 AM
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Mate, I was talking about that other asshole trying to re-frame what he said. You know, that thing you just did in your comment. But way to tell on yourself and all your insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 09:52 AM
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Insanity is (you) trying the same thing over and over expecting different results. Stupidity is seeing someone else try something, seeing it doesn't work, and then trying it anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 09:18 AM
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I'm totally on board with your description. It doesn't sound psychotic. Still, I really do think that other guy accidentally said the quiet part out loud as to why it became popular in TRP, assuming it was (like I said, never heard of it). I doubt it was more noble before, guys were just less explicit and are now more explicit as a reaction to all their manosphere nonsense that they are being persecuted and therefore justified in being more explicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:11 PM
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We are moving in the same direction. I'm not gonna play 20 questions, nobody wants that. The point I'm getting at, that you touch on though probably disagree, is that meaning is derived from experience. Ignoring OP's blatant sexism in assuming women are too stupid or self absorbed to understand their own thoughts, descriptions of reality devoid of experience are also devoid of meaning. It's not that women or anyone fails to understand that experience is not objective and therefore less valuable …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:02 PM
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Measurable things describe reality. Describing something and defining it are different generally. Define is inherently about meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:11 PM
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This is some galaxy brain WTF. I get being viscerally angry about Tate. How that leads to your insane list is not only beyond me, but anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:16 PM
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This was obviously more clever in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:10 PM
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"Red Pill realities" Nice. once again proving your flair is utter bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:55 PM
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Seriously mate, I know I told you this before but I'll repeat it. Just go live your life. Also, you already argued previously that nobody actually cares about anyone and all friends are conditional and temporary. Guess your in a better mood today if people can 'genuinely care about you'
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:50 PM
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I'm good. Instead I'll leave a quote and gently remind you he is in fact a villain. “I am Andrew Ryan, and I'm here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.' I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Rapture, a city where the artist would not…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:45 PM
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You failed to address my implicit question in order to re-frame the discussion. I'll make it explicit for you. How is a means to increase competition anxiety of your partner not manipulation. I didn't ask what steps you take for that means. The means as a whole are intended to increase competition anxiety. That's what you said. Why is that not manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:35 PM
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Alright, this is a hot mess but I'm inclined to give you an chance here. Feelings do not define reality. What does?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:29 PM
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I'm good Ayn Rand. Your intent was clear. No need for more discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:26 PM
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Trying to re-frame it now is pretty pointless. You already said what the intent is. Now though I'm wondering if this is a case of 'said the quiet part out loud' and you just didn't even realize, which is hilarious. Either way its done.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:14 PM
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Never heard of Dread, but even as you describe it as whats it is supposed to be as a positive it sounds intentionally manipulative. I just don't see how "means to increase the competition anxiety passively" or any other effort to intentionally increase anxiety could be anything but manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:45 AM
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I think a significant factor that changed TRP was when alt-right and other extremist ideologies realized that it was basically a self-selecting group of potential recruits. Young men unhappy with their situation looking for ways to improve it, or at least improve how they felt about it. then once it began adopting not just the language and ideas of evolutionary psychology but a very deterministic interpretation of those ideas it's path was set. As for the blue pill, yeah its just anything not TR…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:28 AM
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I honestly hope this is some kind of false flag operation to paint feminists as absurd. All those feminist arguments are arguments for the things they are arguing, not for how to split a bill on a first date. If you seriously think any of that made sense in relation to how to split a bill, you failed the assignment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:43 AM
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Ah. That explains why you are so obsessed with self righteous superiority. It's what you value most.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:31 PM
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'Moral superiority'? Glad I'm not part of whatever conversation you are having in your head that lead to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:12 PM
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C+ for effort. That was also incredibly lame, but you put some work into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 10:55 AM
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You're kinda taking a bullet for a lot of people on this sub, but here goes: Why is this interesting enough for you to post? What debate do you imagine? Selfish people exist, about half of them are women. "women say they are entitled to...". No, they don't. Assholes do. This just reads as the lamest attempt possible to get karma. You didn't even manage to say something interesting people agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 10:43 AM
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"boo hoo people disagree with me and have the audacity to say so"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:52 AM
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I'm comfortable with my description of that as being niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:24 PM
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I wasn't talking about rejection, I was talking about criticism, but I see how you got there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:22 PM
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...this just seems really off topic. What does that have to do with the perception men are obsessed with sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:57 PM
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Good title, but the post is pretty frenetic and disjointed. This is all a very niche topic being argued by a niche set of people, so maybe its true that those people are actually the same ones that want to control women, but I would say its less about controlling women and actually about controlling the narrative. The narrative is as you said measured by simple ideas of moral judgement. So, being caste as the villain is unacceptable. Criticism from the 'other' is never taken well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:05 PM
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So, intentionally. Thanks for confirming that. I guess with the lock down having been a thing when people literally weren't out there you get some room for a joke, but not enough for your comment to make sense as a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:39 PM
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Sounds pretty normal. Honestly I think the perception of men as being obsessed with sex is due to two primary things. 1) The time men are obsessed with sex (18 in your story but lets say 16-25) are in many regards the most formative years, and when people begin to really understand and recognize the world as being larger than they previously realized. So, that impression of men sticks. 2) Men are a victim of their own success. Because so much of masculinity revolves around denying emotion and be…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:28 PM
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Mate, all I'm going to say is that arguing a woman 'didn't withdraw consent' in an example with literally no details, only a vague description of not wanting to say no with absolutely zero context except that which you imagined in your head makes you sound like a serial rapist. You clearly don't understand what consent is. Just know that the way you are describing things makes you sound like a predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:01 PM
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"actually no, if every women didn't say anything, we would see more harm in the world, so no, you would be adding to that greater harm even more. " "but your response shouldn't be silence, that's like asking to be raped or SA'd (since you "haven't withdrawn" consent) and don't forget about trauma." And you're right, accusing you of trolling was wrong. It gave you far too much credit, because that assumes you understand how absurd you sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:51 PM
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It's kind of reassuring how consistently someone claiming to not be victim blaming will provide a quintessential example of victim blaming while defending themselves. Horrific, but oddly reassuring. Women make things worse for everyone by not doing enough, and have a responsibility to "withdraw" their consent. Next your going to explain why any woman that survives a rape is lying because she should have fought to the point of death if it was really rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:20 PM
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Once I saw a gif with him I had to use it. The only way I wouldn't is if I saw one with Dean from supernatural. Que someone finding that gif.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:58 PM
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And I am apparently too old to know wtf that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:29 PM
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Maybe just grow a pair and stop bitching. Then people might prefer you. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:26 PM
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Cheers mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:04 PM
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You are a parody of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:40 PM
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...are you just trolling now? You have literally brought the discussion to the foundational premise. That some men won't back off, so there is possible danger. This is like the worst version of Who's on First but you don't realize your part of a joke sketch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:33 PM
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well that was a journey. In this example not asserting oneself is the step being taken to avoid greater harm. It's how women are choosing to protect themselves. If you think that's counterproductive fine, that's a reasonable argument. But the whole tone of your insanity is that women should be blamed for protecting themselves the wrong way. Kinda proved my point there mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:14 PM
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I'm trying to follow your logic here. Women should remain single until they no longer feel men might be a threat after an experience where they felt there may have been a threat. I just don't understand how you got there. I know for a fact people with road rage exist, as do drunk drivers ect... I still drive despite the possible risks. I go to bars despite the fact there are often drunk assholes looking for a fight. Everybody engages in activities they know could be dangerous, even after specifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:32 AM
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cool
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:36 AM
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You kind of gave the game away with 'based laws'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:26 AM
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Mate, we all understand what you are doing. You have an unsellable opinion: women lie and manipulate in order to harm men, fundamentally. You temper your words to make that idea sellable: that because bad actors exist we need to change the entire discussion, not deal specifically with those bad actors. That because injustice exists, the entire system needs to be adjusted, rather than addressing those specific injustices. You are trying to imitate the language of civil rights without understandin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:02 AM
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You were rather explicit that you think women talking about their experiences makes you feel like they are blaming you. That they "throw it in your face". And that no matter how true something is, you think it will be used unfairly against you. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:37 AM
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True, you didn't deny what many women go through. You just said it doesn't matter because that fact can be used against you. So it was a case of both minimizing what you seem to believe is true, and an attempt at equivocation. That because bad things also happen to men and can happen to men it's all equal. Of course, you only went to that after being confronted. You had to soften your initial position in the face of reason. Which, I guess you get some credit for, but not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:04 AM
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That's the joke. I already did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:32 AM
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I would say its odd and telling that you are focused on this specific example of indifference to injustice as being more significant than others. We all buy smartphones and eat chocolate and...and...and... You are by no means innocent of indifference or inaction. I doubt anyone here would support those women being treated less harshly than men, assuming similar crimes. The fact that 'feminist' issues make you feel like the victim of that indifference when you are not the victim of countless othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:30 AM
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That doesn't make it useless advice. The advice isn't "know to do this thing" its "actually go do it". I know I need to stop drinking soda, and that's good advice. I still drink soda. So, misunderstanding advice doesn't make it useless, and already agreeing with the advice doesn't make it useless. This is becoming a surprisingly ordered exercise in defining what 'useless' means.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:20 AM
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You're gonna have to explain that to me. "Even if it's all true, it is used by wedding people for political or malicious intent against innocent people unfairly, leaving the perpetrators go" Makes literally no sense to me. Are you saying 'wedding people' like the wedding industry or are you saying that innocent people are being wed to perpetrators for political and malicious intent? Either way, elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:09 AM
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The better response. I got distracted by my personal interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:03 AM
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Go ahead and look up incorrigible and its place in philosophy, specifically philosophy of the mind. Consent is incorrigible, it only exists as that person claims it to. The experience of believing god spoke to you is incorrigible. Notice I said 'the experience of" because that's what exists within the mind. Even in that example most often the experience is not of an actual voice, 'spoke' is a poetic description of the experience. God does not explicitly only exist within the mind. Consent does. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:55 AM
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Poor timing I think. At least in America the resurgence of explicitly racist and sexist conservatism and a disregard for reality and fact, it does kind of play as the opposite side of a very identifiable coin. As far as how it plays here, and with the manosphere crowd, I honestly don't care. There is no reasonable discussion to be had with people who's position is "I want my past privilege back at any cost." that 99% of TRP as it exists now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:48 AM
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Damn mate, the comment is 2 sentences and you failed to read the first one somehow. How to Read Lesson 107: Sentences that come after another sentence are often related to or predicated on the previous sentence. Next lesson: Context.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:41 AM
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This was a very detailed look into your mind nobody wanted, fyi. Love the last paragraph though. "Even if it is all true you just want to use it against me unfairly." Good stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:36 AM
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Spoken like a man with no concept of the law. Even normalized behavior can be illegal, and often is. Complaining that someone points that out is just you being a little bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:29 AM
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your examples of being out there demonstrate you failed the assignment. Misunderstanding advice intentionally (which is likely here) or unintentionally doesn't make it bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:23 AM
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I reluctantly support this idea. It's just too good to pass up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:19 AM
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No. As in the rise of companies like Samsung are part of the national history and national identity. Modern SK was founded specifically with the role of major companies in mind, and they are assumed to be integral parts of not just the economy, but the nation as a whole. I would have to do a lot of research to really explain it better, but here in the US many people don't remember or never knew GM went bankrupt. If Samsung went bankrupt there would be chaos, not just because of the economic impa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:12 PM
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Well, assuming you understand as I do that they are identifying competitive social norms as a major influence, I really doubt it. The importance and value of major corporations is very explicitly tied to the government, much more than other countries. They are part of the national identity in a foundational way. Because of that I just don't see why they would participate in any program that diminishes or even appears to diminish their perceived value. That is where the competition originates, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:38 PM
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I have a lot of problems with evolutionary psychology, and your right about how guys here use it. It is a real discipline though, with scientific standards and value. Maybe it will as I believe be proven to be bunk like phrenology before it, but I don't think it lacks useful questions and methods of study. The actual experts are worth taking seriously, even if its just as a counter position to what makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:18 AM
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Yes it is. Evolution is a biological process. It is not interchangeable with evolutionary psychology, but nice attempt at conflating the two. the fact that you tried means your intentionally obscuring what you know to be true, or as I already said, you don't actually understand what your talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:07 AM
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Cool. I forgot the scientific principle of "why bother with it". Thanks for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:42 AM
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I'll elaborate. Evolutionary psychology helps bridge some parts of those two disciplines, it is not meant to encompass and explain all anthropology as a function of biology. The only way it would is if you take a strictly deterministic view, which is not even shared among experts in evolutionary psychology. See, you think that evo psych is like physics, but that is not the only or even the prevailing view. Even if it was, evolutionary psychology is relatively new. The vast majority of human beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:30 AM
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-or "we aren't cavemen anymore so people aren't/shouldn't act like them"(they greatly overestimate the typical rate of evolutionary change)- The fact that you thought to apply evolution so directly to social and cultural behaviors demonstrates you understand nothing about biology or anthropology. It's all just words to make you feel smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:48 AM
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Honestly, the whole man vs bear thing is incredibly stupid, but I've come around. Its just hilarious how mad these idiots get.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:45 AM
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Not young enough for him fortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:25 PM
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TLDR: We need to take all women down a peg so maybe one will date me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:41 PM
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Mate, you defend the boy scouts and white identity this hard you are mormon. Sorry to be the one to break it too you. Full on "let me ask my bishop about that" mormon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:38 PM
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This is just dumb from first principles. Trying to transpose an internet debate into a (I assume from your comments) informed debate just doesn't make sense. It's like saying a movie needs to accurately portray all the elements of a book. You fundamentally don't understand the differences in the mediums being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:30 PM
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I see the mormon in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:15 PM
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there is (or was) a mixed version for older teens, like 15+ or something. Forget what it was called. Also, the scouts aren't the only youth organizations that focus on community and camping stuff. There are options.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:13 PM
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renaming it isn't eradicating it. Stop being such a drama queen. I don't know and don't actually care if there are other changes happening. All you offered here is a name change.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:11 PM
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This is probably just the bias of 'what you see on the news'. In the same way 'it bleeds it leads' has left people thinking their communities are much more dangerous than they are, the principle of 'is this different/interesting enough to mention' leaves people with false impressions of outside communities. Women absolutely do not give a shit that Thai women marry Thai men. Men flying to Thailand to date is different enough to be worth mentioning. The mass increase of marriages taking place betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:42 AM
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It's not really meant to be an accurate description of men's own internal understanding, but of how men speak and act. What do most men brag about? Getting laid, how much women want them ect... What do men most often talk about when it comes to women? How hot she is ect.. A lot of the conversations men have about women is about sex, or about things directly related to sexual attraction. I strongly suspect that the language has become about women 'owing them sex' or more often in my experience me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:24 AM
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Exactly. You don't even understand whats weird about 'let them be euthanized'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:33 AM
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Again. Calling children a burden to parents and the state is super weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:19 AM
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'Let them be euthanized' is such a bizarre way to say that. Real nazi doctor vibes there mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:29 PM
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Mate I didn't say anything about double standards, that's a conversation you are having in your head. I pointed out your circumcision and autonomy arguments are incoherent. The fact that they are incoherent makes them irrelevant to any other wider argument. Just saying shit and that it supports your argument only works if it makes sense and supports your argument. You have succeeded at neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:36 PM
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Mate, you're the one that brought up circumcision. That's your argument, so don't try and claim I'm using for anything. I pointed out that children, especially infants, do not have an assumption of self determination. Adults do. That's all that needs to be said. Self determination is different than 'bodily autonomy'. You clearly don't understand the difference between 'bodily autonomy' which is a purely tangible description of ones ability to control their own body physically, and social contrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:22 PM
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At what point do you people decide that your 'thought experiments' are so specific and detached from reality that they are worthless?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:22 PM
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wow. That escalated quickly. What does that have to do with infant circumcision or abortion? See, I know those two things are unrelated, that's my argument. Just throwing out more unrelated things is unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:03 PM
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Cosmetic surgery is a medical decision. The adult man has bodily autonomy. Unless he's tied up in a basement being used as a sex slave. Nothing has affected his autonomy before the child is born. Even then, he still has complete bodily autonomy. No one can force him to be present or to perform any physical actions with or to the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:58 PM
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"If a baby boy has no autonomy over his genitals, it can't be a double standard to limit that "autonomy" in anyone else." This is just dumb. An infant cannot consent to or make medical decisions, therefore the parents have to be empowered to do so. A mentally healthy adult does have the ability to consent, and therefore has medical power of themselves. Including whether or not to give birth. This is exactly why abortion is an issue for the rights of the person capable of exercising those rights.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:31 PM
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For one? how about "it's immoral" for the only reason to not let children die.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:21 PM
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This is the insane logical conclusion of 'trickle down' economics. We don't need to actually redistribute wealth, just keep having kids and eventually someone will marry a poor person. Bam! economy solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:20 PM
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It's not. Obviously instinct isn't enough for something to be good or valuable. Society has a significant influence. Being obsessed with sex is creepy. Expecting a high value man with unreasonable standards is stupid. So all you're looking for is people to stop saying it's creepy (outside of this debate I assume). They are still going to correctly believe it's creepy though. And treat men like that accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:19 AM
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So you don't care that people think men obsessed with sex are fucking creepy. You just want people to stop saying it. This is a lot of bullshit just so people stop calling you creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:59 AM
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My point is it doesn't make sense to say its bad for girls to want high value men. Its instinct. You either need to agree with me, rather than just say "that's what the post is about" or explain why it is bad for girls to follow that instinct. Just saying it's shit doesn't mean anything. A lot of instincts are shit, explain why women should not follow theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:44 AM
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What does that matter? It's instinct apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:38 PM
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Why is seeking 'high standards' not good for most girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:49 PM
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This is a child's idea of 'should'
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:35 PM
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Cool. "As long as we limit 'high status' to those successful with women then they are the most successful with women"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:14 PM
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No worries. I intentionally don't flair just to see how quick these idiots resort to "you wouldn't understand/care/admit as a woman" when I actually do engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:07 PM
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Since I so often have to correct RP guys, I'll correct you out of obligation. Not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:01 PM
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Are you using 'cimp' and 'cad' to try and sounds clever somehow or do you honestly fail to understand your own argument enough to use the terminology?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:57 PM
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No fault divorce results in joint custody mate. Are you seriously suggesting shared custody is the same as "single mother"? Because I promise your bullshit stats above are not counting shared custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:39 PM
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fuck them kids! They should have known better than to be born.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:28 PM
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You know what? I'll play What does "we need to exercise all avenues, devote all resources into ensuring this culture in society is eliminated as quickly & permanently as possible" mean? Does it mean ending child support payments? (obviously yes, but you still need to pay yours now bro) Does it mean not supporting single mothers with government aid (specifically, since you argue in a comment that single fathers do not fail) at all in order to de-incentivize single motherhood? I just don't see wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:22 PM
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Yeah, you need to get over yourself. All this crap is just you saying how much better you are than other people. Maybe you think your "This is what i want or would be willing to do" list is humble, but I'm guessing the people you interact with can clearly see your self-righteous arrogance and self absorption. So, want to improve your social experiences? Work on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:14 PM
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Just pay your child support and stop bitching.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:04 PM
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Live.Love.Learn
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:57 PM
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OP is. I didn't add the "" to the second line.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:55 PM
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Rather telling that you can only conceive of attacking and challenging other people as means to your fulfillment rather than just trying to understand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:34 PM
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That made no sense. Nice try at race baiting though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:31 PM
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Spoken with literally zero historical context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:27 PM
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Yup. I misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:08 PM
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"masculine thirst" Is this just something you made up or is this a thing now in your little world? Also, explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:58 PM
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Do you also remember End of Evangelion? I remember. Before they remade the show so Shinji and all the incel fans could feel good about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:43 PM
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Your argument doesn't even follow its own logic. Don't demonize men for following their instincts! Also (most) women should not follow their instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:22 PM
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try and aim away from your keyboard when you finish jerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:17 PM
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Sure. Everyone is lying and only you understand the truth, everyone else is too stupid or emotional to argue the point. Seriously mate, save this entire post. All of it. At some point you will realize how clearly emotional you are about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:15 PM
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When I was in HS I didn't drink. Always had a reason, driving ppl home, don't like beer, ect... Then when talking about prom my gf asked if I would drink I said no blah blah reason and she replied something like "you just don't want to be in complete control of yourself." I was fucking furious. She saw right through me. Point is, you are not as enigmatic or as inscrutable as you imagine. As I said before, you've been around a million times a million ways. Eventually you are going to have to acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:07 PM
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I see your patience ran out as quickly as mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:52 PM
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might want to take another look at your comment there. But sure, since you didn't explicitly say it was bad we'll pretend this is a coherent defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:47 PM
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Yup. Yet you still characterize the answer I gave as 'bootstrap' logic. The question I have is what counts as a valuable answer? Because if the bootstrap comment holds true, I don't see what will.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:34 PM
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You are a parody of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:19 PM
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This is a real "MLK solved racism in America" take. So many guys here start their opinion with "things are at least equal now for women, if not advantageous." Essentially your idea of what should count as 'hate' and 'misogyny' is clearly divorced from actual causes and effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:16 PM
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Mostly because trying to actually answer you will lead to a conversation I don't care to have. But you touched close enough that I'll give you the point. So, ignoring the 'systemic dating inequality' nonsense, there are a lot of causes to male loneliness. Your question will undoubtedly be "how do we address those causes then" and the answer is not with systemic change. That is, on its surface an extremely hypocritical answer. One of the reasons systemic change has been necessary in other cases (…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:00 PM
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I feel like this exact trope has played out in enough sitcoms that people should have figured things out by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:48 PM
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Fix your flair mate. your TRP is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:35 PM
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If this isn't Kate or whoever herself looking to troll then you a creepy motherfucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:33 PM
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You've already made it clear with: "Can you explain your points and reasoning. And then I will respond with my disagreements." That your goal is not progress or understanding, you just want a whetstone with which to sharpen your delusional ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:20 PM
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Hate to be the one to break this to you but you are not just a set of ideas. You are a person, and I'll treat you and judge you as one. Just as you have done to women and others in OP and your comments. I know you want to cry foul because I refuse to engage on a purely intellectual level, but its just not going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:31 PM
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ehhhh..... I see the point and agree it's worth making.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:27 PM
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Stop being afraid of failure. There is the answer. Fail until you succeed. Bitter and lonely until 40 when you get married? Success story.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:26 PM
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A concept that so far anytime someone disagreed you have been adamant they are not talking about the concept. It is only valid as it exists in your mind, any other interpretation fails to adhere to what you consider acceptable. It fails to exist outside of your own specific idealization. You are perfectly exemplifying No True Scotsman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:20 PM
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I already have. But I'll make it more clear and much less kind. Your qualia is unique to you, but your circumstances and mental states and reactions are not. Those have all existed a million times in a million ways. I'm guessing that most of the people responding are doing so because they themselves or someone they know has expressed the same ideas, with the same circumstances, and we know what happened next. You may think you are a unique snowflake, but all these things your saying set you on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:11 PM
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That is not the standard for what makes a fallacy. Also, what you describe is your own personal experience and you therefore know it is impossible for someone to have 'the same' experience. Again, you're making an appeal to an impossible standard. Its Scotsmen all the way down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:05 PM
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Reading between the lines is a normal skill. You did it with your whole "I honestly feel like people (mostly women) who believe in the “power” of friendship/social community/social connections as a “bandaid” or “magical drug” that can fix almost any emotional or physical situation." Guess its okay for you to read between the lines of how absurd women are but people judging you? Unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:50 PM
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This is just terrible. "Tell me what you think so I can tell why your wrong" is not a discussion or even a conversation. It's just you being a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:47 PM
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No True Scotsman is a well worn fallacy. The fact that other people have their own lives and concerns that do not involve you is not a proof against real friendship and love, its evidence that your concept of friendship and love are ideals completely divorced from reality. Just because ideas can exist intellectually doesn't make them true or valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:44 PM
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Mate you are not Chainsaw Man. In any case, I gave you the information that may benefit you with time. Maybe you remember it, maybe not. Maybe someone says something similar enough you decide to take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:14 PM
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a hell of a lot of things. Blaming dating is like seeing someone shot 10 times, then stabbed in neck and claiming "they died due to stabbing" because that might have killed them regardless of anything else. It's just the most obvious wound to contribute, but it ignores all the other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:10 PM
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Male loneliness is not the result of 'structural inequality in dating'. So no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:51 PM
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This comment stopped my brain processes completely. 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:30 PM
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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here mate. That lack of concern for ethics is very prevalent in a lot of the manosphere discourse, where everyone likes to convince themselves they are discussing whats 'natural' or 'scientific' or whatever. Don't talk like a mad scientist. they are the villains for a reason. The alternative is that you know exactly what you are doing and its a method to try and normalize the framing of the conversation to not include ethics because doing so supports your o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:28 PM
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A quite comprehensive example of the effect of toxic masculinity on young men. I only have this to offer you. Life is suffering no matter what you do. This isn't some nihilistic rant, just the fact that pain is always a part of living. It isn't an emotion, and it cannot be overcome by ignoring it or treating it as another emotion. Treating your relationships as rewards is inherently self-absorbed because you are only measuring other people and their value to yourself. This makes you an asshole. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:21 PM
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Touche my friend. EDIT: Nobody thinks that the assholes being assholes are good except themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:09 PM
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Lack of empathy is the mark of an unwell mind. My point being that of course the vast majority of people can empathize with the other side. The problem is that people largely expect empathy to lead to sympathy, or even equate the two, and that just doesn't have to happen. I can empathize without holding sympathy for some TRP dude blaming all his problems on society and women. No no matter how true or empathetic the circumstances are, we all react to those circumstances and people that react with…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:08 PM
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Everyone is already expected to engage positively with the community. Nobody thinks that the assholes being assholes are good. Your comment seems to allude to enforcing good behavior, and that's not going to be something anyone who's belief's are founded on individual freedom will agree to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:56 PM
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It genuinely scares me that at no point do you suggest any of those theoretical policies are unethical. Just that they are not in line with liberal democracy, and even that you seem to have no ethical opinion about. This is why women are scared of "just asking questions" bullshit like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:52 PM
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Opposites do attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:16 PM
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I guess I can see that interpretation. It's an odd way to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:04 PM
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While the amazing part is that its a clear directive to not try and change someone. If they don't want to improve or change themselves you can't make them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:45 PM
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I assume this is meant as a comment on how absurd women are, but its actually kind of amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:06 PM
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You don't even need to ask! Conservative politicians got you covered. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:59 PM
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my car is this color.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:54 PM
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Why did you repeat the same color 5 times? Weird flex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:54 PM
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I think you have been way too exposed to online bullshit and no longer understand words to have particular meaning because everyone changes the meaning to whatever fits their argument. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here with over exposure, because the alternative is that this is a comically poor attempt at equivocation. It is not emotional cheating. The word 'cheating' and the lack of anyone else to 'cheat' with should have been the clue there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 05:59 PM
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"Morality has no preferences" Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 05:56 PM
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this reads like babies first sexism. Its like your trying to say how comically absurd sexism used to be, while also defending it as practical. This shit is all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:15 PM
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For someone so obsessed with validating ones experience no matter how absurd you sure are comfortable with gate keeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 06:55 PM
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"I have crippling self esteem issues and think men more successful than me are better than me"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 06:37 PM
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lol. You tried so hard to get a woman to like you while you a side chick. Fuck off mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 06:35 PM
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this was nothing. Another RP asshole that thinks you understand logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:08 AM
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Sure mate, reading between the lines is just making assumptions and you're never guilty of the inherent bias all people have. You can only be judged on the words individually, not your words in totality and what they expose about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:58 AM
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lol. alright mate. Another RP man that assumes you know what logic is because its just so logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:56 AM
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The difference is that you are claiming to believe in the same thing (equality) but refuse to associate with feminism. If I said I believe in free market and that people are entitled to the sweat of their brow, but I'm not a capitalist that would be a nonsensical statement. All it does is expose my dislike of 'capitalism', or that I have no idea what capitalism actually is. When it comes to equality, the only difference between 'egalitarian' and 'feminist' is the latter's association with women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:54 AM
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Wow. You really tried with that one huh? Non-RP mindsets don't tell you to never put yourself first, so that's bullshit. Even if you argue that women pursue men of higher social status that doesn't make men intrinsically better than women, nor does it make those specific men intrinsically better than those specific women. You specify 'certain regards" and use it as an argument that men are superior, which completely negates your attempt to sound reasonable by adding 'certain regards' 'target' is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:45 AM
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is it common sense or logic because those are two different things? Already you have proven my point that you don't care about logic, or common sense for that matter, all that matters is that you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:33 AM
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of course the RP guy thinks logic is whatever you agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:29 AM
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you don't have to, but you do by refusing to side with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:24 AM
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now you're just a moron exposing the fact that you consider siding with women so untenable that you refuse to just say "same thing". You don't believe in equality, because you refuse to even be seen siding with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:17 AM
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Because RP is about being superior to women. All women are targets. It only doesn't make sense if you believe RP's bullshit that their not misogynistic. They are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:14 AM
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hypogamy is the opposite of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:34 PM
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fair enough. In that case let me suggest that you offered way too many avenues of criticism. The style your going for is rather conversational, but that just isn't going to be convincing to your audience. They consider this whole mess to be fact and science based, so sticking to the point will better suite your intent. The conversational style becomes rambley, thus my crazy leads to crazy comment. It doesn't really work to take on their arguments then fit them into a different style.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:16 PM
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I know. Just saying you got caught in the trap of taking them seriously and remaining inside the framing they want. It's like arguing with a racist about why minorities aren't bad. None of that shit matters, its all just excuses to be racist. Same for these men; its all just excuses to feel superior to women. So trying to catch them out in their own logic will never work, because the result has to be that they are superior and anything that doesn't have that result is wrong no matter how closely…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:04 PM
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you went too deep my friend. Crazy only leads to crazy, and you went straight to the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:23 PM
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You can make a joke about anything. Making a good joke is hard. Making a good joke about stereotypes is much harder. Making a good joke about stereotypes people are actively trying to fight is even harder. It's not that its impossible or immoral, he was just an idiot for thinking he could do it well. Fail at doing it well and yeah, you're gonna get shit. Adjust accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:39 PM
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You got this backwards. People didn't give a shit about each other before and saw one another a commodities (see: slavery). Those things informed how people behave online. This is a real "violence in video games makes kids violent" argument. It doesn't, but if someone is already prone to violence than videogames make for a good excuse. The internet isn't making people worse, its just making it easier for shitty people to be worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:33 PM
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Yeah, this is true. It's not fair, but I'm also not concerned by it that much. Mostly I see it as a 'fuck around find out" situation. Men fucked around for generations, now men are finding out. I don't think it's a slippery slope that will get worse and worse, like most things it will correct towards the center with time. Assuming that society is now basically equal, that doesn't mean everything will be just and fair, it means that we will move back and forth on either side of the ideal as circu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:47 AM
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succinctly put. As long as men see sex as a victory it will be a competition and women lose by providing it, and men lose by failing to get it. Queue "sexual selection is competition" because you idiots don't understand context.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:24 AM
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Your use of 'limerence' has the same energy as someone insisting their pedophilia is normal while talking about 'sexual beings'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:09 AM
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Hiding money doesn't work in a divorce. If you can access that money then a lawyer can find it. It absolutely will be considered when splitting assets, and will just look bad and incriminate you when you fail to disclose it. Now the judge and opposition know you're going to try and hide shit, so they better make sure you can't. If you are just talking about the ethics, obviously hiding money is the unethical one. A prenup is agreed to by both parties, it provides full consent and knowledge. Hidi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:03 AM
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Wow. You are really pissed people told you that you were using cynicism wrong huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:40 PM
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no you didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:34 PM
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There are, you are not one of them. They know that they are only making guesses based on very limited evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 04:17 AM
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Well, maybe I was wrong. Mate, this is the kind of conversation that only exists in your own head, even if you have it online or with friends. You already know the answer: some people will be offended and think you're a dick, some people will roll their eyes, and some people will laugh with you. Its a poor hypothetical because it fails to account for whats observably true and assumes a false foundation. That's what makes it "only in your own head" kind of question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:56 PM
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This just reeks of "anything less then perfect is unacceptable to them so why bother" thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:33 PM
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People have needs that they look to be fulfilled. Your parents and siblings and children are not relationships you choose, so fulfilling those needs with the one relationship you fully choose, your spouse/SO makes sense. "What do you bring to the table" is not a denial of love or emotion, its accepting that emotion is not always or even often enough to build a life around. With that said, especially on here people take it to the extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:48 PM
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OP already responded to me, this is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:10 PM
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This is not a good take. Having multiple kids so they raise themselves is not the starting point, its the reality that emerges from parental failure. I think you're pretty sincere here, so I'm trying to not be mean or degrading, I'm just trying to give the perspective to you of people not inside the "marriage is too much of a risk to consider" tent. You are planning from first principles ways to avoid raising your children while claiming that its a good solution for having children. Why are you …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:02 PM
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Mate, if you think of being emotionally available to your own children as extra work, then you don't need to be considering being a single parent by design. While I realize this whole thing is not significantly different then having kids as a couple, it just comes off as incredibly self serving and like you obviously aren't going to be their to adequately support those kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 01:22 PM
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"other people make decisions different than I would, they must be stupid"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:17 AM
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correlation is not causation. Also, you have failed to demonstrate why women should feel grateful to you. Put all that crap together and it gives a "people should respect me because I'm me" vibe, which is bullshit. The fact that you focus on women gives it the added vibe of "women should respect me for being a man". If that's the vibe you have IRL then its no wonder women tell you to fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:12 AM
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what a glowing review of rural life, get shot if you say something the hooded locals don't like. Better than lynching I guess, yall can't do that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:10 AM
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Society and culture will shift, either naturally as the consequences bear out solutions, or forcefully when people decide the government is failing and needs drastic change, probably through sudden change in voting patterns. It's like you idiots think that things don't ever change. That every trend that exists now is permanent with eternal consequence. There is really only one example of that, climate change, but now all you assholes have decided that if science exists everything must be just as…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:06 AM
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This. Talk about buying in to whatever the narrative is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:49 AM
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This is why I don't engage with you morons at your own level. You literally don't understand your own arguement. You just admitted that no scientific study or observable evidence will change your position that decriminalizing sex work will improve dating. You accuse me of trying to use technicalities yet your entire argument there is predicated on the technicality that 'even 2 people' acting as you predict makes you right. You have absolutely no concept of scale or statistical significance, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:40 AM
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you mean something like your title? Sex works needs to be decriminalized to fix dating You already took the position that it will have enough of an impact to be worth doing. Countries that have already decriminalized sex work have not had a significant impact on dating, as stated by people in those countries responding to you. You continue to assert that it should, because it "makes sense" but you never identified what makes America different so that it necessarily makes sense there will be a si…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:30 AM
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This. This is why I check this sub. Fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:55 AM
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I just want to commend you for at least approaching a reasonable understanding of evolutionary psychology without falling into the trap of determinism or assumptions based on nothing about 'early humans'. That plus your flair makes you a rare breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:32 AM
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You know this from your experience as an early human and all their written records from before written language? Wait, no, your just saying shit you heard somewhere that you and they have little to no knowledge of.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:28 AM
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nobody uses the phrase "logic dictates" colloquially. It's not a technicality, it was you appealing to actual logic while failing to provide it. The lack of statistical data is not the basis of my argument, it's me pointing out you fail to meet your own standards, as I have said many many times,. Yet you continue to ignore that because its so obvious you can't even think of a rebuttal so you just try to reframe it a something other than what I explicitly told you it is repeatedly. I'll point out…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:27 AM
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you're the one that used the phrase "logic dictates". Now your just changing the goal post because you finally realized how stupid that was. Also, once again you failed to provide a source for your premise, Since we are now in the land of reasoning and reasonable, you need to identify what makes America so different from countries that already have legal sex work in order to make your assertion that the results will be different from those observed in other countries different in America. Which …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:43 PM
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go ahead and google logic and note the difference between formal and informal logic. you failed to provide any formal logic or source your premises. Again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:32 PM
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that is objectively not the purpose of logic. You need to take some classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:04 PM
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Go ahead and google solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:15 AM
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Depends what you mean by inexperienced. Inexperienced sexually? Who cares. I'm sure someone does but really its not a big deal. Inexperienced in dating/with women in general? The obvious question is "how did you get here? How did you get this far without any experience dating or with women?" The answer at least partially is you made choices that created that result. Whatever the reason, your too ugly, introverted, whatever, that shit is stuff nobody wants to make their problem, because it demons…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:09 AM
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Man demands source, fails to provide a source for his own claims. That's not an attempt to discredit you, its pointing out how obviously false your argument is and your attempts to silence criticism by demanding a standard you can't even meet. Discrediting you by pointing our your hypocrisy of what qualifies as a logical argument worthy of consideration is not an attempt, its just me discrediting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:01 AM
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Your mistake. You also have again completely failed to provide a source for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:57 AM
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So your claim is that men in America 'play' because of the unavailability of paid sex. That means that men do not 'play' or seek to manipulate women in countries where sex work is legal. See that? That's logic, and obviously it still happens in every country. Like I said, you didn't even approach approximation of logic. Not to mention your complete lack of knowledge about logical forms or standards. All you did was repeat the same shit. We all understand, your just too fucking stupid to understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:41 AM
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Nope. Just a bunch of unsubstantiated unsourced claims. That was not even an approximation of logic, that was just you musing out loud. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:22 AM
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"logic dictates"? lol. Go on then, demonstrate the logical necessity of your conclusions. Not your bullshit argument, I want actual logical form.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:55 AM
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You completely failed to consider the effect of anonymity in those platforms being preferred by men, you only considered its possible impact on women. They are probably more popular with men because of the anonymity, and men feel empowered to say the things they still believe but aren't really allowed to say in their own life without consequence. Lack of consequence is the motivating factor for their popularity, and as you pointed out that seems to appeal to men a lot more than women. I already …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:31 AM
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Got a source for any of that bullshit hypothetical nonsense in your post? No. legal sex work isn't hypothetical, it exists in the world. It does not have the effects you are proposing. You are a child claiming that because something doesn't exist in your vision it can't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:23 AM
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...it could be improved. Or used for lung capacity training.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:21 PM
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I think maybe this is just one those things these hypothetical men will have to suck up and accept. Same for teetotaler. It's just such a normal thing in western societies to drink occasionally that the fact that someone doesn't is worth poking at. Same with incels, except incel takes it a step further by saying "I want to and can't" so the obvious next question, or line of thinking is "why not?" Basically, by being open about it they activate the twin trap cards of falsifiability "Your wrong ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 10:24 AM
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I get to do this almost everyday, and its fun every time. What Taicho Gato did not know is that he was talking to a man the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:58 PM
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"All that equality and women have demonstrated a lack of integrity, leadership, and emotional maturity." Given how much you clearly hate women it was the most appropriate description, if you find it unflattering then too fucking bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:49 PM
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I would say that consent is incorrigible, but 'binary' works well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:49 PM
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oh, alright. I'm in a head space arguing with assholes defending cheating in a marriage. A lot of people are going to hate this, but here is how I imagine it. On a football field if yes is one side and no the other, the most basic understanding of consent is that the field cannot be crossed. No always lands on one side, yes on the other. So if someone 'persuades' another to agree, all they've done is essentially appear on the other side of the field, and all is well. However, I would say its mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:43 PM
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Can you tell the difference between reluctance and enthusiasm? The answer is yes, you can. That.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:27 PM
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Neither 1 or 2 are true. Nobody believes monogamy=celibacy and nobody actually thinks only men are 'risking' something in divorce. More bullshit from someone saying "deserves to get cheated on". You are responsible for your own choices, stop whining like a little bitch about how the world is unfair, but only to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:26 PM
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This is exactly why enthusiastic consent has been the new call, to avoid this kind of unnecessary muddying of 'consent' towards 'not consent'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:48 PM
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you beat me to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:46 PM
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not like you. You are an adult and understand that using fine words makes you sound like less of a whiny needy little bitch. Oh wait, nope, it's still obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:19 PM
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There was no bait and switch. trying to take a realistic down to Earth tone and then calling it such is obviously incongruent. More bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:34 AM
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found to many different Real movies to know what your referencing. is it the 2013 one?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:20 AM
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lol. sure love, anything predicated on "as long as you don't get caught" is healthy, fuck might as well call it good, its their fault for lying to you 20 years ago and not explicitly saying one day they will not be seeking sex. Because that's something they knew. Really, your the victim. Same bullshit different day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:17 AM
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not "being miserable and resentful" does not qualify as a need. Or, if we are going with a Maslow style argument that it represents a higher level need, there are alternatives ways of achieving it. Ways that don't include being a selfish piece of shit. You know this from all the examples of it being true. If you can;t achieve those, thats a you problem, not your partners problem. But sure, they need to bare the cost of whatever fucked up thing you decide to do without telling them. Healthy marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:07 AM
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what movie is this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:00 AM
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'a man's word is his bond' This is very obviously a cultural hold over from a time when women were basically property so their word didn't matter. The most relevant example being: Numbers 30:2. If a man vow a vow unto the LORD, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth. So yes, you correctly identified that a woman's word would not be treated equal to a man's.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:53 AM
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You don't have a physical need to lie and fuck another person. More bullshit to justify doing whatever you want. There is no coherent argument that includes "If the marriage is otherwise okay I don't think it should end over a dead bedroom" because its not otherwise okay. If it was otherwise okay you wouldn't be considering lying to your partner. That's just a way to misrepresent the state of a failing marriage. Like honestly? One thing wrong with a marriage justifies lying and cheating? No, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:43 AM
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There is absolutely no reason infidelity needs to be part of that equation. Same old rationalizations for being a piece of shit. The idea that you think cheating is somehow part of an equation mitigating "damage" is fucking absurd. Is staying in this marriage worse than leaving? that's the calculation. Whatever the answer, man the fuck up and stop whining and looking for excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:58 AM
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yup. Then the dude divorces her if he can't deal with that. If only there were a term to describe something like that, maybe common to divorces. Might go something like 'irreconcilable differences' Any argument you make that assumes they won't divorce will be met with they should divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:19 AM
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already explained why you are wrong. There was no contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:38 PM
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awesome. So stop whining like a little bitch about 'demonizing" people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:27 PM
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goes to shit means divorce. It doesn't mean do whatever the fuck you want. Lets be clear, you were not at all pointing that out. Your comment was just a transparent way to play the victim, but you fucking failed because of course. You are obviously trying to get someone to validate the idea that because you feel frustrated about something you get to do whatever you want, regardless of how it affects others. The only way you could be more clear if if you titled this post "tell me how to explain w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:16 PM
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okay. how is that related to saying infidelity is unethical? Or that men that are unhappy in their marriage should get a divorce? Or that failing to take the responsible steps to change your life and instead cheating is the act of a fucking coward? "doesn’t want to stay frustrated for the rest of his life" and "does shit worth criticizing like cheating" are very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:04 PM
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ethics. infidelity in unethical to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:52 PM
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they should. Or, maybe having sex isn't important to them, so why divorce over something unimportant?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:39 PM
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same shit different day. man cheats, then it must be the woman's fault. The answer of course is that any guys using this logic is just a fucking coward that won't divorce his wife he hates and rationalizes cheating. Men can file for divorce, maybe one of the reasons women are so quick to file first is they know men are going to come up with shit like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:34 PM
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well that was fucking insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:16 PM
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"if everyone agreed things would be better" hot take.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:12 PM
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Fact: Dating and romance are easier for women than men. Response: short term dating is easier for women than men. long term dating is equivalent because it requires equivalent investment, that's what differentiates it from short term dating. Fact: Society values women more than men! Response: your applying different ideas of value to each gender then just claiming they are 'different but equal', when the outcome is clearly not equal in most areas of society. the attempt to limit it to just talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:28 PM
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damn dude. go take some drugs already.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:56 PM
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source
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:48 PM
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show me a direct causation between an increased workforce and decreased wages. your getting worse with each one of these.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:48 PM
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my position in that comment was that HighlightThink5276 is doing the exact same thing he is accusing me of, just like you do james.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:45 PM
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standards of equality and the need for systemic changes to effectively meet those goals benefit everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:44 PM
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no shit. do you really not see that was the point of my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:41 PM
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there are other considerations than feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:40 PM
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I feel like I'm reading an alien language or something out of Lovecraft. No matter how long I look knowing these are words they just slip past my mind and I have to keep staring to try and remember they are words.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:31 AM
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I'll just quote the website for what they are measuring. The Global Gender Gap Index annually benchmarks the current state and evolution of gender parity across four key dimensions (Economic Participation and Opportunity, Educational Attainment, Health and Survival, and Political Empowerment) So, women in S. Korea score worse in those categories on average than women in Asian countries that place above S. Korea (see above). Now, I assumed that like a reasonable person you could understand the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:16 AM
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I have obviously been treating you with the seriousness you imagine you deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:22 AM
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1999 was the year of The Matrix, obviously the perfect time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:12 AM
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I'm not generous enough to assume they are stopping because they learned, rather than stopping because they got called out. That's just me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:05 AM
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Nisbett, R., & Ross, L. (1980). Human Inference: Strategies and Shortcomings of Social Judgement is an article. Feel free to page through it and you’ll find detailed explanations of that behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:03 AM
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Your not accounting for assholes. Assholes aren't failing to notice, they don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:55 AM
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Interestingly, I do have a source that explains why women blame others instead of your nonsense that makes the astoundingly stupid leap from "women avoid taking responsibility" to "women necessarily blame everyone else" Actually, that's not true. Your lord and savior and model of your sexdoll Dr. Buss has a source with an alternative explanation, which he clearly states the findings of: people tend to take credit for successful outcomes but blame others for unsuccessful outcomes (nisbett & ross,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:53 AM
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Read: People hate confrontation and instead of facing a problem head on they remain polite to avoid the other person doing something crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:48 AM
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How is that a coherent response? I didn't question that statement in my comment. You honestly think that's the hammer for every nail don't you? you're misrepresenting the theory Do you have a credible source saying otherwise? You're clearly using language not present in the theory, an obvious sign of poor academic standards Do you have a credible source saying otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:37 AM
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"Women will ALWAYS try to blame shift anything they’re doing wrong onto men or onto ANYONE else of power - that’s how women usually operate in society." Always...usually "Women don’t take responsibility or accountability for their own actions nor do they like it it in general" the same thing. David Buss is just too stupid to have used the right words. Glad you know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:30 AM
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What James Cruse didn't know was that he was speaking to a man the entire time. But sure, men prefer taking responsibility and obviously all women are lairs. Its all women's fault, and I know that as a responsible man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:27 AM
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I'll be honest mate, I gave you a really considered response because you seem sincere, but I'm not gonna go further down this road. Have you ever heard the phrase "mothers have a baby, fathers have a maybe"? Marriage has always been a means to try and mitigate that maybe. Only in the most recent times has it been something capable to be advantageous to women in any meaningful way. Until recently marriage was not a tool to stop men from having sex, it guaranteed men sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:27 PM
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Lets see if I can competently offer a criticism of the logic. I'm still working out the wording. First, lets establish that double standard means men criticizing women for sleeping around, while not criticizing men for sleeping around. I know both genders do this, but I need to simplify it to make my point. I'll address women criticizing women at the end. So, you believe broadly in sexual selection and evolutionary psychology. Again, broadly, that means genders of a species adapt and evolve to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:01 PM
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We'll just ignore that is false in the top %1 percent paid jobs. I get your point. Even for something like a teacher, the base pay is equal but the highest paying extra duties are the ones overwhelming held by men, like coaching. Now you are going to say that women are not pursuing those extra duties, and I'm going to say the same thing was said in the past about senior management and STEM. The fact that women are not pursing those opportunities is not enough to say they don't want to, if they t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:32 PM
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fair
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:44 PM
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Mate, I know you think your pain and experience is unique and nobody understands, but its just not true. Also, I know you think every criticism or observation that doesn't completely validate your every experience is code for the worst possible interpretation that is always an attack on you personally, but again, that's just not true. I asked about a military base because I had that same experience in the army, told the doc about my depression and he essentially told me to walk it off. However, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:41 PM
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This is so bizarre. You linked an article about how acting out emotions releases endorphins and does not contribute meaningfully to mental health, yet are arguing that men's mental health benefits from acting out emotions. What is happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:22 PM
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its not the first port of call for something they are not trained in. Your right, they should have refereed you. That's pretty fucked up. However, you literally took the smallest step possible to seek help and gave up at the first inconvenience. This does not qualify as 'seeking help' in any meaningful way because 'seeking' implies continued effort. You have to try to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:14 PM
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the first (again, as a teenager) said "it's probably just your autism, goodbye" (almost word for word), the second (as an adult) said "Google some therapy" Expand. Your saying you went to mental health professionals about depression and received these responses? Or just a doctor. Also, it should matter, but it does, was this on a military base?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:05 PM
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"I don't believe talking helps" admitting that you won't even consider the possibility that therapy can help. Nice. Really lends your opinion weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:01 PM
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not for you. Your experience is not universal, and you've failed to demonstrate even a basic understanding of modern therapy practices.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:59 PM
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So you don't know if men are engaging with the process to the necessary degree for effectiveness. Doesn't that mean the conclusion that it is less effective for men is meaningless? That's like saying it's the teachers fault your kid is failing because he never did his homework.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:57 PM
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We should discard the theory of relativity by your logic then What. Seriously man, I'm not trying to be mean, do you think this is how science works?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:51 PM
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that escalated quickly, and I liked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:46 PM
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two things. Therapy does not qualify as trauma dumping by your own definition because a professional has the training necessary to not " feel overwhelmed or emotionally exhausted" So characterizing therapy as trauma dumping is incorrect, though it may be true that men in therapy consider it to be trauma dumping and the professional is not able to correct that perception as well as for women. If that is the case, it needs to be addressed. Just saying that men naturally act out their emotions rath…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:45 PM
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if you watching porn multiple times a day while jacking off turn that stuff off. Just going to make things worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:25 PM
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no, its based on the idea that men that go oversees for sex are more likely to have personality traits associated with seeking sexually exploitable women like high levels of narcissism, machiavellian traits, and/or anti social traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:21 PM
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I just need to make sure you are aware there is more than one job. demand equal pay for the same job doesn't mean demand equal pay for every job. It is possible to marry someone with a higher paying different job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:13 PM
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nope
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:56 PM
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True, they provided their results to command, who used it to discharge you. Still doesn't address what was in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:42 PM
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So, your asking for every possible outcome, and then telling people they are wrong when you disagree. Fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:28 PM
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Your so insistent on this I decided to read your link. The Letter of Reprimand was issued by The Office of Special Investigation after conducting an investigation. The findings of that investigation are not provided, so you actually have no fucking idea what was found during the investigation. All it says is that they issued the Letter of Reprimand. Your assuming because they didn't take it to court they didn't find anything. Local Authorities dropped the charges not because there is was a lack …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:25 PM
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A Letter of Reprimand also requires a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:18 PM
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mate you answered your own question. People will compromise as best they can to make the marriage work. Oh wait, that's just a description of marriage and dating. Fuck!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:10 PM
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I'll spell it out. A commander punishing someone that was not found guilty in court martial is an example of a commander having the power to apply negative consequence beyond the limit of the court, which by the way is not controversial at all except in a very specific case like this. Nobody gets made when a fuck up is demoted. your "exact same example" is the commander having the power to prevent legal action against someone that would otherwise be subject to it. apply negative consequence beyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:07 PM
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Damn son, you went silent real fucking fast. Immediate responses to dozens of posts and now nothing? Why could that be?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:59 PM
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I see what your trying to do, but its not inconsistent to say that proving a crime demands action, and knowing a crime occurred despite a lack of evidence demands action. Reaching the legal minimum of evidence is not the only measure a commander can or does use while in command. You seem to believe that legal consequence is the only acceptable measure, and that's fine. Given the shit I've seen while in the army I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:45 PM
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World Economic Forum's Gender Gap Index for 2022 (the last one on the wikipedia spreadsheet) High placement means less gender gap. 19) Phillippines 50) Singapore 52) Loas 55) Timor-Leste 69) Mongolia 70) Bangladesh 78) Thailand 82) Vietnam 85) Kyrgyz Republic 90) Indonesia 97) Cambodia 99) South Korea Want to take another swing? In case you missed it, placing 105 in 2023 means the gap increased.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:43 PM
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I wish I had that article still. Ironically it was about how there has been an increase in efforts to eliminate alimony because women are more often subject to it. Obviously bias needs to be addressed, but its not as prevalent as you all imagine. Most places default to shared custody 50/50 and then one party has to prove the other is unable to effectively offer %50 custody. Most child support plans are based on a calculation of income and income disparity between the parties, with the assumption…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:28 PM
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Of course. If someone is found to have committed a crime they need to be charged. I see what your trying to do, but its not inconsistent to say that proving a crime demands action, and knowing a crime occurred despite a lack of evidence demands action. Reaching the legal minimum of evidence is not the only measure a commander can or does use while in command. You seem to believe that legal consequence is the only acceptable measure, and that's fine. Given the shit I've seen while in the army I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:20 PM
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I'm sorry, I have to do it. Man fucks up his own life and his families....must be the woman's fault. Really though, I have no tears to shed for child support, assuming that money is supporting the child. Is it also supporting the woman? Yes, because a child cannot support themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:08 PM
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This is nonsense. I compared S. Korea to the west. It is not feminist compared to the west. Just changing the goal post to "only Asian countries" is transparent nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:59 PM
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maybe I'm just old then, to me playboy always meant a (wealthy) guy dating/fucking the hottest girls around, nothing serious nothing with consequence. That's textbook shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:56 PM
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As of 2023, South Korea ranked 105th out of 146 countries in the World Economic Forum's Gender Gap Index which evaluates gender-based gaps in education, welfare, employment and political power. ..As I was copy pasting that I realize you might mean it is the most feminist of the Asian countries. Is that what you mean? Because my comment meant "with less feminist influence (than western countries)"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:54 PM
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Ah! I just happened to have gotten a Reuters article about this, but I didn't save it. Only around %10 of divorces result in alimony. Now you said perceived, and there is of course child support, but it makes the "gonna get that money" motivation less compelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:49 PM
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"social psychologists have discovered an array of fascinating phenomena—the facts that people tend to loaf by failing to pull their fair share of the load when working in a group (latané, 1981), that people tend to take credit for successful outcomes but blame others for unsuccessful outcomes (nisbett & ross, 1980), and that people tend to obey an authority figure even if it means delivering harmful electric shocks to other people (Milgram, 1974)" Literally the only use of the word 'blame' in Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:46 PM
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Don't need any. Just the reasonable assumption Dr. Buss isn't batshit fucking crazy. Which based on the lecture I watched he is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:14 PM
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That'll do. Cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:12 PM
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well that took a turn
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:10 PM
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True. Still needs to go. As an example, look at the history and global prevalence of the swastika. One group of dedicated assholes ruined it for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:09 PM
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It distinctly feels like you're about to advertise a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:03 PM
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sorry to ask, where is that %10 from? like a source. I was trying to make a related point recently that the idea that men being the breadwinner doesn't prove much since there being a breadwinner is so uncommon and couldn't get through this dudes head how small the discrepancy in pay is for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:58 PM
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Don't need one. My point has always been that you are misrepresenting the theories of Dr. Buss.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:52 PM
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So really you are fully aware you are misrepresenting his work. "that's not how he says it" is just asshole pseudo-intellectual for "that's not what he means." Even without reading it, I am confident he said what he means.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:43 PM
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because repeating it is advantageous to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:40 PM
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You just keep digging that hole huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:37 PM
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know I'm with you in spirit. -playboy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:35 PM
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failed to cite a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:32 PM
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the works of Dr. David Buss is not a source
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:29 PM
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the works of Dr. David Buss is not a source
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:29 PM
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no source, for either comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:28 PM
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"the theory of Dr. David Buss" is not citing a source. Also, obviously the man has more than one theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:27 PM
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the works of Dr. David Buss is not a source
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:26 PM
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"the works of Dr. David Buss" is not a adequately cited source.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:26 PM
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"men NEVER hear women admitting fault or mistakes." The source is me telling you I have heard it, and others telling you the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:25 PM
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not really, 1 point to griffindor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:24 PM
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"the works of Dr. David Buss " is not a source. If you want to demand scientific standards, best fucking provide them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:23 PM
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Is that seriously what you think citing a source looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:22 PM
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men also have biological preferences, they are not a more reliable source. unsound logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:22 PM
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I don't need any. You are claiming it is different. The burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:20 PM
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I never claimed to know more, I have been demonstrating that you are so comically misrepresenting him and evolutionary psychology it should honestly be a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:20 PM
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Agreed. In real life people understand that just stating flat out all women are liars and can;t be trusted because of 'science' is fucking stupid. I honestly feel bad for Dr. Buss that you are so comfortable using his name to defend your stupid ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:18 PM
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that's just your unconscious bias maintaining your sexual advantage talking. No PhD overwrites those unconscious
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:09 PM
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We already have words for that. Gold digger, slut ect... I'm so sorry everybody, I'm going to dive into some of the language used around TRP. The key feature of hypergamy is that it is based on evolutionary psychology and the premise that women look for partners that will offer a high level of support, because having children is necessarily more of a commitment for women (pregnancy) creating conflict that women resolve by finding partners that will invest more in that relationship. That means me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:06 PM
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People are not logical. Lets just get that out of the way. My logic 101 class had a curve that sometimes went as low as a 72 being an A because otherwise most of the class would have failed out, including me. The problem I have with how you are characterizing 'a logic' is that it comes from a clear bias. Men view logic as a good. Being logical is good. Being illogical is bad. The result is what many people are pointing out, "illogical" is used against women to note women's inferiority ect... Rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:42 PM
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no source, pure conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:20 PM
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no source, pure conjecture
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:19 PM
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Appeal to authority
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:19 PM
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Appeal to authority
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:18 PM
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Appeal to authority
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:17 PM
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Appeal to authority
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:17 PM
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??? Sexist bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:17 PM
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???? Sexist bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:17 PM
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no source, pure conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:16 PM
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Appeal to authority
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:16 PM
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appeal to authority
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:16 PM
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Appeal to authority
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:15 PM
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objectively false, examples have been provided of men hearing women admit mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:15 PM
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disregard of surveys that contradict your position as being "not reflective of our actual lives offline"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:14 PM
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Appeal to authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:14 PM
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no source, pure conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:14 PM
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people unciously lie in order to maintain mating advantage, so just trusting them, especially women which is exactly what you are saying is impossible to do is logically inconsistent. No source, unsound logic, pure conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:13 PM
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no source, pure conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:11 PM
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men do hear women admitting mistakes, I already told you that I did, as have others You are objectively wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:07 PM
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translation: your evidence doesn't matter, mine does. You do this a lot, it's almost like you are arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:06 PM
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Great stuff. Women necessarily lie because of unconscious bias and preferences (something shared by men and women) I'm just gonna go ahead and make the reasonable assumption you are lying to increase your own competitive advantage. Good talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:38 PM
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so, women lie because they are maintaining their competitive advantage. Are married women then trustworthy sources because they have exited the competition?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:12 PM
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You obviously understand the problem. What you don't understand is that evolutionary psychology doesn't deal in hard facts, it deals in patterns. Even then, the primary criticism of evolutionary psychology is that it is falsely deterministic. So it is a debate, in science even, and your representation of actual research as "just facts" is comically ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:58 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:48 PM
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its almost like they exist to be used, so that the government isn't forcing people to remain in a marriage they actively want out of. Like maybe forcing people to remain in a marriage they don't want is worse than giving people the means to divorce. But sure, lets be side "YOU SAID FOR LIFE AND YOUR GOING TO FUCKING MEAN IT"! Nothing concerning there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:39 PM
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I did the same, they clearly admitted to fault. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:32 PM
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sometimes shit has to get done.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:26 PM
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Its not really gaslighting. The logic is that TRP doesn't define itself by any specific arguement, it defines itself as "the truth" or "reailty" not otherwise being represented in the common dating advice. What that means is that that anything shared between the two is not red pill, by definition because it is already being represented in the common dating advice. So, the "common sense" ideas making it into the mainstream? Like say "get in shape if you want a better chance at dating" is objectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:24 PM
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Chaebol families in S. Korea and how explicitly they are tied to the preferred interpretation of national identity and history, as well as their continued overt influence in politics and lack of accountability is a pretty interesting case study honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:09 PM
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Eh, I'm not overly concerned with how strictly accurately you quoted a source. The point I was headed towards is that women in western countries are less expressly feminist than they were in the past. So, we'll just assume women in S. Korea are more expressly than women in America today. Are they more expressly feminist than women in America were when the US had similar levels of inequality and similar (lack) of legal protections? The idea here is that rather than proving those countries are "mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:01 PM
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true. Most men from benefit from feminism as it currently stands, but then this is the classic example of its easier to keep people divided than let them unite against the real problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:53 PM
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there are always going to be studies with conflicting findings, which is why they are useless. Just saying "well mine are correct" isn't worth anyone time. Which is why if you can't even agree about the average wage, you're right. We done. It would just be bullshit source quoting followed by the exact same kind of argument I provided, all I did was skip the "cite your sources bro" step. An example. " Your argument doesn’t take into account hypergamy and women’s desire for high status men. I didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:51 PM
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...yeah Japan and South Korea aren't really known for their labor camps.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:04 PM
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Point one is a joke. Expand on the second point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:45 PM
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For the vast majority of people (in the US) 100k is a pipe dream. Also, what are we defining as "breadwinner"? Most households have both spouses working. I try generally try to avoid using statistics in the discussion because they are rarely useful, that said hopefully we can agree that the average pay for an individual is around 40-50k. Also, the majority, if not even the vast majority of jobs at or below the average are pay scheduled positions that are gender neutral. I'll use the example of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:43 PM
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Fine, I'll play. how is it showing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:24 PM
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It doesn't account for dating trends because I don't care about dating trends in regards to the economy. Its completely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:03 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:20 PM
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Do you see this Lilith, you've put me in a position to not contradict bottleblank. Fucking bottleblank! We would murder each other in a knife fight in the mud but I'm left with nothing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:08 PM
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Its frustrating you are so often right but you always argue so poorly. Honest question: Are you intentionally playing into the femnazi stereotype just as a "fuck you" to the incompetent sexists that frequent this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:04 PM
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Thank you! Finally. Yeah, your probably right. It's not really worth getting into a discussion about motivations for such legislation because I couldn't speak to that in any competent way, but I do know in China birth is culturally considered the beginning of life, so there wasn't really much debate about the ethics of contraceptives or even really abortion, those things were independent from ideas of ethics or women's rights. It just wasn't something people were concerned with broadly speaking.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:47 PM
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I honestly can't tell if your just vastly more competent at obscuring your position than OP, or if you are just accidentally failing to provide anything that would indicate your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:34 PM
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...I think you saw my trap. But fair enough. Honestly, I have little interest in debating what OP means while he actively obfuscates any real stated position. I'll just jump right to my final argument I had planned that if increasing the work force depresses wages to the point that what people would consider "normal" social interactions are only available to those above the average income, then the problem are the policies depressing wages not an increased workforce. Essentially, the problem is …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:32 PM
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...thats true. I want to say the fact that I assumed birth not involving and egg or sperm makes the child not really yours proves my point, but really I just fucked that one up. Still, people want a connection to their children. Reducing the number of identifiable connections will not be satisfying. I'm still okay with that point. Genuine question: is truth seeker some kind of religious affiliation? Pointing out the incongruity of your flair and the fact that your premise is based on fiction is …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:22 PM
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I am genuinely annoyed you flaired yourself "truth-seeker" and this is the starting point. Moving on, I doubt it will have as much of an effect as you might imagining if its not compulsory. Women already suffer from ideas of "failing" in some way from a C-section because people want to feel they are doing things right, and people want a connection with their children. Just telling people "give us your DNA, any child created is not yours" isn't going to be satisfying for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:13 PM
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Lets see if bans actually work or if I'm the only one getting banned for shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:01 PM
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Stefan Molyneux is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:55 PM
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Alright. Why bother being concerned about declining birthrates?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:45 PM
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I guess the difference is that none of those guys are actually fucking pornstars, its literally just fantasy. Women however are fucking the "top" guys on tinder. Achieve-ability goes a long way. *Edit* as to whats considered "realistic"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:32 PM
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Agreed. The ability and availability of means to prevent pregnancy decrease the number of pregnancies. Those things do not necessarily correlate to feminism, which is specifically mentioned by OP. It's hard to talk around this as long as OP continues to refuse to just provide his position, but obviously his position is that feminism is the cause of the problems he mentions. We have identified that not only is that not the case. In fact, the countries with some the most severe projected populatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:06 PM
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...that's a stretch. The difference between "(men) protect women" and "don't harm women" is wide enough to make that a false equivocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:01 AM
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Then stop replying to responses with detailed descriptions of how the process works. You say your just asking for opinions and then dismissing or criticizing those opinions for not properly understanding the process. You see how that comes off as you being a fucking asshole? That your not interested in people's opinions, your interested in poking holes in other peoples arguments so you found a very specific case you are well educated about both the event itself and the processes around that even…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:58 AM
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Japan, a famously pro feminist society
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:44 AM
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I enjoy mocking people who say stupid shit and expect to be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:29 AM
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I seriously hope you are 14. Otherwise, you really need to learn some level of resilience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:26 AM
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I just don't see the value in disregarding the concept of time or circumstance when deciding what counts as settling. So what if (with the benefit of hindsight and rose colored glasses) you feel you loved a gf from 5 years ago more. Shits done, you can't go back in time. That doesn't mean you're settling, it means you understand time exists and circumstances change.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:48 AM
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I think maybe you don't understand Warhammer 40k is mostly satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:09 AM
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Not really what you were going for I know, but It lead me down an interesting line of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:06 AM
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Are you arguing that feminism is the cause of declining birthrates and the problems of modern dating? Defending your own position is debate 101. Particularly when you are the one introducing the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:55 AM
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An interesting way to introduce the idea that family planning has two very distinct and conflicting definitions. Personal family planning which as you describe results in greater availability of resources, including resources to prevent pregnancy. Government family planning, which is concerned with the social stability of the nation and usually results in access to fewer resources, particularly those that prevent pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:53 AM
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In before OP completes his master plan of responding "I didn't even criticize feminism I just asked questions, the way people are so viciously defending feminism proves my point that we can't even talk about it"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:40 AM
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Why are the birthrates lower in Asian countries with less feminist influence?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:16 AM
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So, your not trying to win a debate, and really we are saying the same thing, but it's important to point out that you're more right than me. Might wanna check the math on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:14 AM
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Go ahead and take a trip to walmart on a Sunday afternoon and see with your eyes all the people buying food for their families. Mate, you are not cut out for this debate. Take the L and walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:41 AM
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Oh man. You really thought that was clever huh? I'll just go ahead and lay this out for fun. "He needs to look as physically attractive as he possibly can be first before even worrying about his social skills." You explicitly state that he needs to look as attractive as possible, which I do not, and you explicitly state that looking as attractive as possible must happen before working on social skills. Someone can go to the gym an hour a day to get in shape and work on their social skills at oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:36 AM
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Go ahead and take a trip to walmart on a Sunday afternoon and see with your eyes all the people buying food for their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:26 AM
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I honestly think that all you looksmaxxing people will immediately change your mind with one trip to walmart on a Sunday afternoon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:23 AM
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Virgin at 22 is fine. Life doesn't end at 30, so a few years outside the 'norm' is not some huge issue. What women are going to latch onto as being a problem is never having dated. And the association of dating with having sex. Sure, that's the truth of it but when you lay it out that directly its not a good look because it reads as dating=sex. Saying you've been friend zoned is likely to be taken that you have no interest in anything other than sex. Fair or not, there it is. General rule, if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:19 AM
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What your failing to account for is that a letter of reprimand has no standard of evidence because even the military recognizes a commander can know something is true without explicit evidence. Its a tool to maintain order and good conduct and issue punishments without the need of a legal battle for every single thing. When I was in the army we got a new sergeant major that made his first act a 'sit down' where he made it very clear that he knew exactly what everyone was up to because he wasn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:54 AM
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Because your question doesn't make sense. It is founded on false premises, that "believe all victims" is equivalent to pretending false accusations never happen. Are you seriously going to look at that incredibly thorough response and just say "well you didn't explicitly address the question the right way"? This is why you fucks will never be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:47 AM
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That's what happens when you name your ideology from a movie with a literal chosen one messiah that dies and is reborn, then brings back his one true love from the dead.. But you keep telling yourself you're a realist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:25 PM
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Its not really advice about how to get a date, It's advice on how to not become a miserable asshole. See, blue is concerned with more than just dating, so advice can apply to more than just dating. What happens when you focus on handing out resumes and impressing in interviews? you increase the likelihood of getting a job. 99 unanswered applications that results in one job is a win, no matter how depressing things were until that job. What happens when you focus on dating? Very often you become …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:06 PM
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You don't have to turn the other cheek, but what you are arguing for doesn't make sense, and is very obviously going to result in the disenfranchisement of women, which is already playing out across America. That is because its not actually founded on any principle, its just a way to throw a tantrum that shit isn't as easy as it used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:57 PM
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And there it is. The last defense. propaganda 101. Instead of defending your opinion in some way, just lash out. "your no better so why should I care" The cycle is complete.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:52 PM
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Your assuming equality of opportunity not only legally but culturally. Are women less likely to ask for raises because they are less likely to receive them? Given the historical disenfranchisement of women and minorities, assuming cultural equality is quite frankly childish. It basically saying "making murder illegal hasn't stopped murders, but obviously making discrimination illegal has stopped discrimination." Also, your appeal to a perfect meritocracy ignores your own position that men are na…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:44 PM
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No, I'm saying that arguing for a system that you know will be unethical is unethical. You've done the exact thing I said you would. Ethical concerns only apply after the assumed power imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:32 PM
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practically, agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:26 PM
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Is power imbalance unethical? History would say yes. Overwhelming when a power imbalance exists it is used a means to actively oppress and disenfranchise those without power.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:24 PM
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getting in shape to improve your chance at a date is normal everyday advice. Asking out more women is normal everyday advice. Not wearing sweatpants to a date is normal everyday advice. So, do those belong to TRP or TBP?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:19 PM
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Do you not see the irony that we are literally playing out the exact conversation I detailed in my comment? I'll just jump ahead. Explain to me why the argument that something is natural applies to power imbalance in a modern society but does not apply to other things like rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:08 PM
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Rape is natural and backed up by extensive research. Consent is the outlier. Are you now advocating for rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:05 PM
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Since we are on PPD, I'll note TRP is equally unable to create a definitive accurate description of 'the blue pill". What you accidentally stumbled on is that an ideology that positions itself as against 'the norm' has the sole responsibility to actually define those differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:02 PM
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The primary one is that men are natural leaders and breadwinners, and the women are natural caretakers and naturally submissive. Therefore, men should primarily hold leadership positions, and women should primarily defer to male preference and leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:58 PM
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Sure. They just believe all the things that make up the patriarchy, but naming it is a cardinal sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:50 PM
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Yes, you successfully identified a radical group. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:05 PM
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This is the wrong question. Honestly, its a useless question. The question is, what is the purpose of the monsphere? What does it advocate and why? Broadly speaking the monsphere advocates for patriarchal social structures. This is usually based on some pseudoscience about how men are natural leaders, women look for protection and so on. Someimtes that manifests as "equality was achieved despite the tangible evidence men hold considerably more power, that's just because women don't want more pow…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:29 AM
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le sigh This is why I don't use actual logic with these types of people. OP has no interest in logic, its just a hammer he uses to bash in peoples heads for bothering to engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:31 AM
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I'm not really arguing for equality of outcome. I'll say it this way. Just arguing that women choose lower paying jobs isn't convincing. Full stop. The systems in place have always disadvantaged women so just saying "well they don't anymore, it's their own fault" doesn't make sense because there is absolutely no way to demonstrate that without the caveat "assuming things are actually fully equal legally and culturally" If there remains a cultural aversion to hiring women for high positions, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:54 AM
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"they will always have a never ending stream of advances and options" This you bro? While you didn't identify anything in that never ending stream as being better, the numbers game still exists. More options means higher likelihood of a better one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:38 AM
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keep reading my man. I know these posts are long but I address that further down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:54 PM
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What makes this weird is ending with "a good opportunity". By what possible measure is it good if there are readily available better options? That and the creepy tone of "it doesn’t matter how much you have over a woman". That shit just screams "Women SHOULD like me but don't and its not fair". Really undercuts the whole message. Work on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:48 PM
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Alright, I'll come clean. I saw you quote them. I also realized you could have gotten the same quotes from a single comment of mine rather than 2 different ones, which is funny because that would theoretically benefit you in demonstrating that I am contradicting myself. That's not as funny as the fact that immediately after I point out there is a record on the thread of your terrible arguments, you tried to obfuscate your argument by providing the quotes in a manner that I can only see in my not…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:31 PM
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She's not. Well I mean she is in a broad sense of the stripping of reproductive rights and repeal of roe v wade and so on, but lets just say she is not facing debilitating inequality. The average income is around 40k. Why would she be a good example of the inequality the average woman faces, or even of the average anything? Assuming you can agree to something basic like pay inequality, that women on average earn less than men, do you think earning less than the average of 40k counts as debilitat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:18 PM
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still waiting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:29 PM
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Go ahead, lets see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:26 PM
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Wouldn't really call it research. The headlines and articles all mentioned him, that's as far as it went. I still have no idea what it actually is supposed to mean, and I do not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:24 PM
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Yeah, but I googled that people are lobsters thing and all the top results were about Jordan Peterson. Based on that and this whole conversation its pretty clear you desperately want to be as clever as he is, but you lack his education and skill at debate and logic. Instead we are left in a position where you flat out deny things that are clearly visible on the thread. Like you arguing for what the baseline should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:19 PM
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??? " including dating It does not necessarily, and that's the point. It's not nessecary." That's you stating the baseline has to be necessary. That's you stating that niceness does not qualify because it is not necessary. Logically, that means that a qualifying baseline has to be necessary. You absolutely did argue what it should be. You even argued that it should be Charisma. Great job admitting your not actually arguing for anything, your only arguing against niceness. I already knew that fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:10 PM
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Ohhh. Your commenting from the position that intersectionality is an attempt to deflect responsibility for personal failings. You had me really confused there, but now I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:55 PM
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Not really, I was leaning more into the idea that men that join the manosphere have already proven themselves susceptible to those strategies, so they are easy marks for more extreme groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:34 PM
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Niceness is taught to be the baseline because it is a net good in a person's life and will help improve many aspects of your experiences, including dating. See, I don't care about your standard for what the baseline should be. It's the baseline because being nice is the baseline for almost all social interactions, because being nice is the ethical way to behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:11 PM
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So, there are some interesting points here. First, fringe groups (lets just use the alt right since that's what I initially chose) do share information with the outside and appear publicly. The "Unite the Right" rallies were a perfect example of this, and were widely challenged...from the outside. What those groups do not tolerate are challenges from within the group, which is true of the manosphere. The same thing occurred with Antifa for an example on the left. Widely opposed from the outside …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:07 PM
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Fair enough. Just feels like I missed something everyone else is in on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:42 PM
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I need to know, was there some kind of nice guy convention recently? Why the hell are there so many posts about nice guys specifically all at once?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:34 PM
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I resolved that in my first comment. No, this has been an exercise in demonstrating you can't even offer a baseline for success that meets your own requirements. I'm just having fun now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:31 PM
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Sure. Any appeal to ethics that might jeopardize the lineage is "wrong". That maintains the average person's understanding of right and wrong as being completely separate from any idea of ethics or morality. Right and wrong are purely biological values measured by outcome, not intent or motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:28 PM
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Amazing. Claim that something has to be necessary for success to qualify as the baseline, then include "and(/or) it's functional equivalent". You sir are a master of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:22 PM
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That is all bat shit insane, but at least you are being consistent. Not a compliment I thought I would be giving to something so transparently horrible, but here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:11 PM
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Your standard for a baseline is something that is necessarily true. We have identified a case where charisma was not a factor in success. You failed to meet your own standard. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:08 PM
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A charismatic sociopath? Or just a backstabbing sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:01 PM
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The charisma of a married man right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:51 PM
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Are you honestly trying to argue that because it is not necessarily true in every instance it is not useful? Go ahead then, tell me the alternative. What should we teach is the baseline instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:38 PM
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That all felt very personal for you. But yes, you have successfully identified that people often treat one individual different from another individual. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:27 PM
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You are trying to exclude other factors. But for fun I'll answer that question you pose. Niceness is taught to be the baseline because it is a net good in a person's life and will help improve many aspects of your experiences, including dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:22 PM
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No, I'm pointing out that maintaining the context of dating and excluding any other factor are not the same thing. Especially when OP specifically mentions things that have wider application.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:12 PM
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You literally just described the method every fringe group uses to recruit new members. Find people that are failing/dissatisfied, validate their experience and offer a narrative where those failings are not actually failings or not actually that persons fault. In fact, you have identified exactly why so many manosphere guys move towards the alt-right, because they use the same strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:07 PM
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because it's not exclusive to dating. Are you intentionally trying to make the dumbest counter argument possible? I understand that he (assumedly) and you want to set dating aside in it's own little box, but given the fact he specifically mentions moral values taught to boys, which are very obviously are not meant to be exclusive to dating, he and you have failed at the first possible step. Really since we are here, what possible value is there in isolating dating as a subject in that way? He's …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:54 PM
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Do you seriously not understand that some advice is meant to apply to more than just dating? You mean address it with something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:37 PM
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it wasn't a reference, its clearly formatted as a copy paste job. I gave my response. Engage with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:29 PM
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Wow. The irony of the fact that you copied a quote that is not from my response just makes this too perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:24 PM
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So, to sum up raising boys with positive values is wrong because the world isn't just? The "sting" of realizing the world exists beyond you is not unique to men. That's literally just a description of growing up to be an adult. Do you seriously not understand that some advice is meant to apply to more than just dating? Or even the basic idea that just because others succeed with unethical behavior that doesn't mean its impossible to succeed with ethical behavior? How fucking insecure are you tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:17 PM
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"slowing dying out" and "less common" are two very different things. I assume it will be less common in the same way religion will be less common in the future. Not gone, not dying out, just not such a vast majority that people will automatically assume it to be the case for everyone they meet, because what were the chances of meeting an outspoken atheist in 1880? Or meeting someone in a poly amorous relationship, assuming you were not in Utah at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:18 AM
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Is this really where we are at? Finding someone attractive is the same as "at least he was hot"? You don't recognize any gap between "well he's cute" or any other description of attraction and "at least he's hot"? Or are we also only talking about chad's over 6 feet?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:11 AM
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At no point did anyone limit it to only people that can't get a date, OP is about fairness in dating and in a relationship. But fine, lets just go along with the idea that we are only talking about approaching women and not actual dates or dating. Even then, do you honestly think that a 2 minute chat isn't enough time to form an opinion about someone's personality? I'm not talking about an accurate opinion, just an opinion based on that 2 minute conversation. News flash: people do, everyone does…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:54 AM
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...Do you seriously not know what the red pill refers to? The entire thing is founded on 'fiction entertainment' with mass appeal. The movie it is from does the exact thing you are saying is wrong and blue pill. Neo literally becomes the chosen one and he uses his powers to bring Trinity back to life because their love is so important. What the hell is happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:15 AM
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Nobody has ever thought "I am describing a man that I know for a fact EVERY woman would never date" because that is transparently insane and impossible claim to prove. If that's your standard for what qualifies as valid advice then good luck to you mate, enjoy never having an opinion about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:21 AM
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Alright. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:20 PM
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You're doing the same thing he is doing. Now that he and I talked a bit I get where he went wrong. Basically, he is assuming that because unjust assumptions exist that any assumption that could be unjust is necessarily unjust. The classic example is people are poor because they choose to be. Poor people just don't have the work ethic to succeed, and it's their own fault that they struggle. The assumption being that poverty is a moral/ethical failing. This absolutely happens. It also absolutely h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:34 PM
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hello there. If I'm misrepresenting your post so be it. That is my understanding, with the inclusion of TRP explicitly because this is a sub about RP and BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:12 PM
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You go ahead and google 'no true scotsman'. That is the fallacy you are very obviously falling into. If you honestly think fair only means an unachievable ideal then you are just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:10 PM
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It's just such a wonderful post that absolutely will cause controversy. First, TRP prides itself on identifying that dating is not fair, its one of the most agreed upon 'truths' men have to accept. So, surface level OP is misrepresenting TRP and the stance most men on here take. However, the part I get out the popcorn for is that OP is not arguing against that premise. OP is arguing against how that premise is used by guys here and in TRP. That dating is unfair, the 'average' man doesn't stand a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:06 PM
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agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:55 PM
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So, your definition of 'fair' doesn't exist, you know this but believe some situations can be described as essentially fair if the average difference approaches some indeterminate 'balance' Either fair is something that doesn't exist and the majority of the world uses the word incorrectly, or you just made up a definition of fair that is by your own admission not possible. Which could it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:46 PM
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Give one example of something fair that isn't based on random chance or lack of information.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:24 PM
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A perfect example of some idiot using that rope to hang himself, even after I explicitly stated why I included those examples. Well done sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:13 PM
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It doesn't. I prepared for the worst and gave this guy some rope with which to hang himself, but he has proven eminently reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:46 PM
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Do you mean here on PPD and the internet? Look man, all I can say is that if someone complains about how they can't get a date because xyz, and xyz has misogynistic language and ideas, then I am perfectly happy to call them a misogynist. Not because they are broke or ugly, which I have no way of knowing, but because of what they said. I have no problem assuming someone flaired TRP is a misogynist because TRP is misogynistic. Seeing someone that identifies as TRP saying "females use hypergamy as …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:41 PM
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If you are using 'arse' then you know perfectly well that a parking lot is the best place for dogging. Getting fucked in the arse in a parking lot is a great friday night mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:33 PM
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Okay. I think maybe you need to take a second pass at that answer, lets walk through this: Romantic failure has to be because "you are undesirable" and cannot be because " a person's failure is based on a personal flaw". So, that means there is no situation in which a personal flaw would be undesirable. See the problem here? Being an asshole can be undesirable. Being misogynistic can be undesirable. Someone having a personal flaw and someone being undesirable are not mutually exclusive, and more…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:27 PM
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Lets play this out shall we? Man: what do you think about anal sex? Woman: Tried it, didn't enjoy it that much. Man: WHY WOULD YOU TELL ME YOU DID IT BEFORE WHEN YOU KNOW IT WILL JUST PISS ME OFF!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:18 PM
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Alright, I'll bite. What counts as " rejecting the premise that dating is unfair"? Does the advice "be yourself" count as rejecting it? How about "there's plenty of fish in the sea"? I'm just trying to gauge the threshold here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:51 PM
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Let me get my popcorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:59 AM
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Nice word salad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:54 AM
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Guess I'll have to trust your experience as a hunter in a nomadic tribe during the ice age. ...Or your just spouting bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:59 AM
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I see, the last line was mocking how obvious it is men on here are trying to make their failures not really be their own fault. It's women's fault because x, societies because y, and so on. Women only want chads so its normal and completely not my fault women wont date me. That kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:26 AM
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This rings of the "if its natural then it must be good" sort of thinking. Anger is natural, but that doesn't make it good. Anger is overwhelmingly negative both for yourself and other people. Men express emotions with anger not because it's more natural than other emotions, but because it's more comfortable and expressing emotion other ways is often seen as not masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:23 AM
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Was my sarcasm not coming through? It was sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:17 AM
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No, you're wrong. Obviously you rejected them because you are a woman and therefore lack empathy with men, engage in hypergamy, only chase chads, and are looking for a beta buck to raise your child by another man. None of that is the guy's fault for hitting on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:12 AM
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This. It would absolutely destroy most men's egos and confidence because every failure would really be because of their personality and failure to read a situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:54 AM
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I would never describe myself as blue pill only because the burden to differentiate is on TRP since that is the movement that specifically tries to differentiate itself as being "the truth/realistic". To me, that means that any shared ideas like "improve your looks and social value to succeed at dating" are irrelevant to choosing, because they are not what differentiates TRP from the mainstream. The only argument that would cause me change my stance would have to be based the ideas that are diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:04 AM
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Those are what TRP says it is about, while ignoring what it is really about which is giving men who are failing arguments and rationalizations for why they are still superior to women, and deserve the best woman around without having to "settle". TRP is about positive self image and not misogyny as much as white nationalism is about self affirmation and not racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:40 AM
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lol. I guess Jack Nicholson was right. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! Really though, that's a you problem. Stop whinging like a little bitch and get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:35 AM
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This is just one of those situations when you have to accept the answer you got, not wait for the answer you want. You don't need to understand someone's every motivation to accept their answer. Circumstances change, people change. It doesn't matter why. For me, someone getting fixated on it is just a serious red flag to never ever fucking do what they are asking about. Imagine you are afraid if heights, but went on some carnival ride with a gf in college. Then your LTR says "well you went befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:03 PM
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she doesn't want to. What more reason does anyone need? Especially when it comes to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:20 PM
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Its a mixture of two things really in my opinion. 1) Delusion. They are not providers in any sense other than financial (if that), and they are not nice. They are 'nice guys'. They imagine themselves successful by the measure of some before time they hear stories about, not as successful in the world as it exists now. 2) It's a means of selection. Only the kind of 'trad' woman they believe existed in the before times would be looking for someone that describes themselves that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:14 PM
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It's drama. beyond the obvious 'shy girl like me is special and important to the guy that doesn't care about anyone' angle, it's a endless well of conflict to keep the reader engaged. The stereotype of soap opera's having insane plot lines involving murder, lying, long-cons and other things that would be psychopathic in the real world exist for this reason. Conflict creates drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:03 PM
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Yes. This is really probably the root of why so many men here on PPD get angry when in a LTR a woman doesn't do things she did in the past. The guy wants to 'teach' her so to speak, and feel in control, but she already has the experience and refuses to participate in more of it. Now she's not my whore just for me, she's just a whore who refuses to be mine. Something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:58 AM
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You are already getting all the answers. Make an effort to improve the wardrobe, skincare/hygeiene, practice telling stories and keeping interest. If you like comedy, try joining an improve class. The ability to apply "yes and" to conversations will always increase someone's likelihood of wanting to spend time with you. As always, its a numbers game. That doesn't mean triple your interactions per week like someone said, it means keep trying. Failure is normal, it is not a death sentence. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:45 AM
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What? One woman says "ick" and then instantaneously every other woman in the world knows and agrees? The problem with one "ick" is your fragile ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:17 AM
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I have no opinion about it being a valid cause for divorce, no such cause is necessary in most cases. Unless you can prove who is the father then sorry mate, too bad. The money supports the child, so unless you can provide an alternate means of support I got no tears for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:39 AM
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All your comments are about paternity, not divorce. Those that are not about paternity boil down to "don't allow divorce because people shouldn't be allowed to take chances and fail" So really what you keep saying is even more nonsensical than your OP. it's all just hand waving at some bullshit platonic ideal of 'trust' that is eternal and unchanging. relationships change, situations change, things fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:00 AM
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Do you really need someone to explain to you that if you think something is unethical you shouldn't do it? Rationalizing poor behavior is nothing new. If you think that stuff is shitty behavior and you do it you are a shitty person. This is not difficult mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:50 AM
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What is your position here? Women are fine with no fault divorce laws, those laws exist in large part due to feminist movements to ensure people are able to divorce without proving fault, which can be a rather high bar. Are you saying women should only seek no fault divorce? Because if someone can prove fault it is very much in their interest to bring that forward. I think maybe you need to take another swing at this madness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:47 AM
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This is not something anyone can explain to you. You fundamentally don't understand that people change with time and circumstance. You used to eat Thai food every week, now you don't. You used to wear jean shorts, now you don't. The narrative is this: just trying to graft logic 101 on every situation makes you sound absurdly ignorant. That hammer can't solve every problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:38 AM
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You might want to google what a 'slippery slope' argument is, because it's a fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:08 AM
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I was trying to point out that you might benefit from mentioning in the post that you consider it an example of mommy issues because her mother was absent. It reads as an example of daddy issues because you say 'similar'. That sets it as separate from the description you provide above it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:10 AM
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Taylor Swift and someone dating a doctor are examples of giving the average guy a chance? Dating after 30 has nothing to do with the 'women don't give average guys a chance' narrative so many guys here have.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:33 AM
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women's bodies are made for emotional support? That's where you landed?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 03:58 AM
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that really is not apparent in your post. It is odd your example of 'mother's issues' only mentions the father. Answered your own question, but I understand now what this post is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:42 AM
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There was some insane guy on here demanding people explain the difference between anal masturbation and sex some time ago so yeah, the prevalence of porn mixed with a complete lack of awareness really doesn't reflect well on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:35 PM
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yes of course, the only fair responses are those that protect your ego. You do understand your exactly the kind of guy women have to give a fake number to right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:31 PM
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That is a comically made-up example. A) no one expects women to give their real number if they are uncomfortable, so the situation you describe is transparently false. B) Nobody gets made at a guy uncomfortable with his GF giving her real number to guys that hit on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:09 PM
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Just waiting for enough TRP guys to call you a commie for you to realize that this is not unique to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:21 PM
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Ignoring the obvious projection here, you are actually right. That is what happens....when you see strangers. Literally everybody makes a quick assessment based on appearance and behavior. It's called a first impression, and it is very intentionally full of bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:09 PM
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"At 35, they are clinically considered "geriatric" in fertility terms." That you bro? That was one of your premises? Don't try and pretend you gave a measured position and are shocked at the responses. You said some insane bullshit you have to know is untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:00 PM
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...look around at the guys here. What you are describing as daddy issues is wildly inconsistent, because its pretty clear that girl's father was not absent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:20 PM
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Just be honest, how much of this nonsense you do actually believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:15 PM
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Okay Hari Seldon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:14 AM
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Not really the place for this, so don't be surprised if this post gets locked. Here goes: Obviously he is not telling you the whole story, but I don't see why that matters. Unless you two were introducing family there is no reason for him to do so. Messages on an app is not a commitment, so I really don't think either of you owe anything to the other. If your interested give him a chance. If your just going to doubt everything, which is the vibe I get from your responses, probably best to just m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:11 AM
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Its amazing how many opinions you have about things that fundamentally don't affect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:00 AM
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Its often used as a way to speak indirectly about something best left unsaid. As in "he has certain...predilections" which could just as easily be "he has certain...preferences." Its pretty obvious you are not using that way, like you said just one of those minor nuances.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 06:35 AM
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shaming people generally isn't seen as something that improves mental health. Also, the solution to promiscuous behavior includes getting people to marry for money? Is that what you mean by a basic relationship? Basic cost-benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:38 AM
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Alright mate, I'll bit. Actually, Let me be upfront and say I'll give you enough rope to hang yourself. Explain an effective tool of enforcement for pairing. Let me just remind you this is about dating and mental health, so something about divorce isn't relevant unless you can explain how it is relevant, and the enforcement has to reasonably be expected to improve mental health for the people involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:21 AM
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What needs to happen to make dating easier? The things you identify as affecting mental health are many of the same things making dating difficult. So in a round about way yes, it would, but not the way you seem to be suggesting. There isn't any feasible way to make dating easier without touching on most of those other issues. Kind of the point really when it comes to mental health; you don't just 'fix' it, its always a process.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:11 AM
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predilections. Just gonna point out that's an odd word choice for your wife and children, since its generally associated with immoral or unnatural behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 03:59 AM
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This is why I specifically noted I was not agreeing with you on anything more than the fact that you happened to phrase your insanity in a sane way in the first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:57 PM
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This is a child's idea of leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:38 PM
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He honestly has a point. I'm not claiming this is his point, but the one I see is as follows. Complaining about not getting sex is just something easy to latch on to that men are supposed to want. Really most of these guys are upset because they can't deal with the fact that failure is a part of life. All the other things affecting them like wealth disparity and whatever is just easier to focus onto women and the idea that "things would be fine if I was at least getting laid" Thing is, actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:27 PM
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you go ahead a google "no true scotsman"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:21 PM
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Like VR, the limiting factor is not technology but people themselves. Even assuming all these deterministic premises are true, other factors like greed, ego, and human failure does not garuntee this future. The classic example: VHS vs betamax. Better technology or ability doesn't garuntee success.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:18 PM
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cults be cultin'
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:08 PM
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projection is a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:37 AM
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Ever heard the saying "same meaning, different feeling"? If you only talk about those issues in the most toxic ways (see: your entire vitriol filled comment that assumes women do see themselves as morally superior beings) then yeah, your not going to be taken seriously. Find a way to get the same meaning with a different feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:57 AM
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same bullshit argument different day. OP, and everyone else, are not saying to ignore problems, but that not all problems are equally prevalent or have equal outcome. You know this, its been explained to you many times. EDIT: Que "of course their not equal look at male suicide rates and homelessness"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:50 AM
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What women are criticizing are men that expect a woman to be their only emotional support, because they refuse to talk to their male friends. That said, the hard turn at the end worked perfectly. Great joke post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:21 AM
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Well, TRP has taken a real deterministic turn with its heavy influence from evolutionary psychology. Its kind serves as a heightened version of the criticisms evolutionary psychology itself gets. One of the many examples of TRP appealing to science without really understanding it in my opinion. But yes, that is why, because TRP relies on very heavy nature based reasoning. It has been my experience that any criticism of that is regarded as "questioning science" or refusing to engage in a discussi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:27 PM
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I guess its all a way to describe how someone needs to take a step back and ask "does this make sense?" Every city in America has thousands of family homes owned by thousands of couples, no study necessary. Worsening economy, more shared houses, fewer marriages, none of that changes the observation. So, take a conclusion like say '90% of women compete for 10% of men' then where do you go next? That's just observably not true. Explaining why the conclusion itself is false, the step forward, and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:08 PM
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What you are describing is forward moving; lets focus on this subject that is out of line with expectations and so find what doesn't fit. I usually try and work backwards. What are the expectations? What happened to get someone here? Its not even that I think you're doing it wrong, rather that that kind of forward thinking is what most often leads to the bad logic and false premises. Like anything else its all well and good when used well, but can quickly turn detrimental when used poorly. Logic…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:07 PM
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Honestly I have learned very little beyond the many variation of common arguments. The reason I continue to come back is because of something related to many of your comments I see below. Men imagine themselves far more logical and scientifically minded than they actually are. Just in general really, being logical and rational is seen as a virtue in masculinity, but particularly when it comes to TRP since appeals to logic and science are what really set it apart from other dating movements. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:34 PM
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It's almost like human beings are not necessarily rational in their decision making or eternally consistent and unchanging in their wants and needs. That any model that that assumes deterministic patterns of behavior fail to fully explain the human experience. You got 90% there, now you just need to go the last 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:17 PM
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The fact that you are there demonstrates they are not women only spaces. This isn't even some 'technicality' bs point. If you go to a party and then get mocked and yelled at by everyone until you leave and decide "well there all assholes" you are gonna sound pretty fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:12 PM
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I think you might have got your argument twisted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:05 PM
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Several people have mentioned the same idea here. Is this a common view for why fertility is so low in those countries? Because of gender wars?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:03 PM
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I'll be honest, going down the rabbit hole of checking up on this is just not something I am going to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:00 PM
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No? switching "you do" to "do you" changes this so drastically I'm not sure what you're asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:41 AM
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Worst poem I ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:29 AM
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I know, a marine buddy of mine once told me so in a crowded bathroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:26 AM
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Pretty sure I can identify why you might have problems based on that comment. Desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:24 AM
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Jesus mate. Immediately deciding "nice cock" is the right compliment is the most clear example of outing yourself and your insecurities I have ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:13 AM
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Not gonna lie, I knew a really hot half-Korean Mildred and I absolutely destroyed even the possibility of anything happening by constantly annoying her by calling her that instead of Millie. I am fundamentally unable to date someone named Roxanne for different reasons, but admittedly; I'm an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:01 AM
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This is some defeatist nonsense. At no point do you actually say what you do to even try and get dates. The entire thing is about her telling you the steps she is taking to find someone, and you bitching about how nobody acknowledges how good you are. What, its 52 dates or go fuck yourself? The real honest truth is that if you are trying, actually fucking taking steps to date beyond "I made a profile on tinder" and failing every single time to get a date; then you are failing. It is you. You nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:57 AM
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It confirms what everyone already knows, TRP and normies. If you are not finding success, you need alter your behavior/patterns. Fail to change anything and nothing will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:47 AM
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You have fun in that officiated debate you're having in your head where it makes sense to take the most narrow interpretation possible and use it as the basis of criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:34 AM
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So yes, you do think think its intellectually honest. Thanks babe!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:29 AM
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What is this in reference to? Both Korea(s) and Japan are very patriarchal and always have been. what does "Both sides pushed the extremes off the fucking cliff" mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:13 AM
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Let me just ask you: Do think this is an intellectually honest argument? Do you really think just zoning in on the wording "no one" and claiming that's why you commented is something anyone (oh no, there's that opportunity for you) will believe? You failed to mention it until she pointed out the obvious and you couldn't respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:09 AM
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Really its that feminism understands the value of PR. In the past feminism was much more specific and confrontational, specifically to deal with the larger systemic and cultural problems of the time. As gains were made, the language and tone shifted, because continuing in such an aggressive and confrontational way seemed out of place to the genuine effort and change occurring. Then, as feminism became more inclusive in its language and ideology, it was a lot easier to look at it and go "duh, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 11:53 PM
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You fundamentally don't understand what competition means. If all the women are succeeding with those men then they are not in competition. If they are not all succeeding with those men, then those women that are not succeeding have to find other men in order to have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 11:34 PM
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I think of more as an Lyndon Johnson style "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:06 PM
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Dating apps increase competition among women that use them. The chad man they all want has access to a larger pool of potential women than he would have without it. I'm going to go throw up after framing things in such a moronic way so you can understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:55 PM
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There's that malice. Welcome back.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:45 PM
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Wow. You really tried to turn that around on me huh? I made another comment to one of yours, and this only demonstrates my point further.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:43 PM
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"Men are obviously acting according to principles and beliefs, however misguided. Women aren't even capable of that, they just follow their instincts." You really do make this too easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:39 PM
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This comment is fascinating. See, you've actually just identified that dating within a 'direct-vicinity' is an absolute good. Yet, in other threads you defend passport bros on the basis that they are not exploiting women. Its like, I understand why you compared those two things in OP based on this comment, but none of your other comments align with this. I'm starting to think you less malicious in purpose and more just confused and incapable of really following your own logic to its conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:35 PM
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The fact that with even the slightest pressure you came up with a new example that is obviously not exploitative tells me you absolutely know the difference between dating online and the stereotypical passport bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:27 PM
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"I'm obviously wrong but maybe if I'm pedantic enough I won't look like a stupid asshole" It never works mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:22 PM
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This is indecipherable. Maybe try a second draft that has the right words (components - compensate) and some explanation beyond just "sex has more value to men" because sex is not the only component of a date or especially of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:10 PM
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I think that because there are fewer tangible ways to just see and know women are inferior that men have had to become more vocal in describing why they think women are inferior. In the past you knew your boss would be a man, the secretaries would let you flirt and so on. The consequences of treating women as inferior/poorly were fewer. Now, men can't just look and know they are better as easily, so they start vocalizing these RP style arguments to justify why men are still better. EDIT: just vo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:55 PM
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Found out your crush bought a new dress and hasn't shown you yet huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:42 PM
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You don't have to dislike women to think less of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:35 PM
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Also part of it. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:29 PM
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Gen Z were raised on the internet and missed Vietnam. Don't know what they have to complain about Boomers were raised on tv and didn't deal with WWII. Don't see what they have to complain about. The greatest generation was raised on radio and missed WWI. Nothing to complain about. Also, are you just not aware of the 2 decades of war that were going on until recently? The fact that you didn't even think to mention it tells me you're the entitled shit that didn't fucking do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:48 AM
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Fair. My point is that using the word entitled is the wrong way to think about it. Its got so much baggage, particularly of the "kids these days" variety that it just sounds stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:15 PM
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So, RP names itself after the pill representing reality and the truth, and then everyone else names goes along with BP to mock you, and dammit that's just unfair! Take me seriously guys!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:57 PM
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They saw both the youngest president ever in Kennedy to represent them, and the two oldest presidents in Trump and Biden to represent them. There is a case to be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:53 PM
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This is amazing. So many RP guys imagine themselves the madman screaming about the death of god only to be laughed at.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:45 PM
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Most people when they say its entitled to not date a woman/man with children mean if you have that as a hard rule. Like no moms no matter what. Its so dismissive not only of them as individuals but it also seems counter to a lot of the ideas that are the basis of a LTR. You avoided them for the most part, but many guys when they complain about single moms are complaining about things that exist in any relationship. I'm sure you or someone will say that somewhere someone said even preferring chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:40 PM
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This is probably the wrong way to think about it. Past generations felt just as entitled, just about different things. As the number of things we as a society agree a person should be entitled to shifts away from the things people could count on previously, the things people still feel entitled to become more apparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:30 PM
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hows that "I'm not a misogynist but women especially are more entitled than men" going for ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:27 PM
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Mate, 1&2 are based on your failures. Not even an accusation, its fine to be aware of your own limitations, but they both amount to "I can't relate to or socialize with people well unless..." As for 3, just watch Succession. Inheritance is always contentious. Fortunately, nobody can accuse you of anything since you'll be dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:23 PM
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lol. Everyone loves an underdog right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:48 PM
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whatever I was expecting, it wasn't that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:47 PM
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You consistently demonstrate your misogyny with a "women need to be responsible for themselves" smokescreen. Also, I'll note you're clearly smart enough to realize the main thing people hate about RP is how sexist it is, so the fact that you immediately honed in on that as the thing to contest is rather telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:34 PM
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Blue pill is just anything not red pill. Maybe it started as satire, but it has mostly taken the form of anything not red pill by RP. RP has run with it and anything that doesn't fit the RP model is BP. Most often I see it described as 'not results oriented' advice by RP, while outside of RP its just considered common sense or 'normal' advice not reliant on the most common foundations from RP like hypogamy, alpha/beta behavior, and things that contradict 'observable innate natural patterns' ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:50 PM
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just change your flair already man. You ain't tricking anyone with that 'blue-ish' when you make comments like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:25 PM
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That's what you saw in the media growing up and remember because it reinforced what you already believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:24 PM
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LOL Because your comfort isn't the most important thing to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:42 PM
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you overestimate the niceguy. Plus, even if they do last the weeks until the date, there is still the date to decide. See, being comfortable 'losing' someone you haven't even been on a date with is a good sign. You can always try to strike something up again later if it falls apart. This time with a better idea of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:23 AM
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My guess is that it helps weed out r/niceguys either because they freak out before then, or are too needy and desperate to wait that long. A guy that can comfortably wait a few weeks doesn't need a GF for all his emotional support. Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:06 AM
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I see, I accused you of pedantry but it turns out you're just a pedo. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:57 AM
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I hope you're 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:47 AM
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Ah yes, because everyone loves the pedants. "why are people laughing when I'm technically right? Obviously a 15yo and a 20yo are biological adults and therefore equivalent." Just as some friendly advice: if your ever on the side of defending an age of consent of 15, even if your right your wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:42 AM
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lol. Reading between the lines is a normal thing. Are you seriously going to try and claim this is a purely academic question without intent?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:37 AM
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no, they don't. As pointed out already.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:27 AM
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is stepped AOC a good idea in general? how would you tweak the formula? at what age should any age gap be permissible, if any? I know. Based on what you asked. question one is pretty clearly a cover your ass question so you can claim its for any woman. Anybody half way literate can tell you are looking for answer to 2 and 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:25 AM
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people stop developing biologically at 15? News to me. Unless you are using a very narrow definition of 'biological adult'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:22 AM
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pun intended. Well then I imagine you are going to get a lot of responses of "wtf are you on about". Entertaining for me, but then I did my bit to try and give some advice. FYI: specifically asking how to alter what you provided is not like asking a Trump supporter if they'll vote for Trump, its like asking them if they think Trump's stance on boarder control is enough and how to tweak or improve it. Which btw are questions that get asked. Is my suggestion making more sense now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:18 AM
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some people explicitly advocate outlawing alcohol. Look mate, If you want some serious answers to this I would suggest limiting yourself to asking only people that do actually support that kind of stepped AOC. Just asking 'women' isn't enough. Its like asking the average person why they think alcohol should be illegal. They don't. I'm going to give you benefit of the doubt here and believe that you failed to realize how asking that question here would be taken. But the answer is its such a weird…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:10 AM
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I know the solution. What is being pointed out by me and others is you didn't do that. What you chose reflects on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:04 AM
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I think you'll find most people understand the difference between moral, ethical, social, and legal objections to certain behavior. Just saying "well women don't approve of age-gap relationships so lets see if they mean it" and then suggesting changes to age of consent laws is pretty dumb mate. Someone can be opposed to drinking without wanting to outlaw it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:00 AM
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Once again, the point is the stepped AOC to what end? Most states laws regarding teenage sex are already more restrictive than what you proposed with 15 as the starting point. Your continued instance that this is more restrictive than most laws that already exist in regards to minors just is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:56 AM
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But its not necessary to address those laws. Just get rid of those clauses, or heavily restrict them. The rest of it doesn't make sense for that purpose, so what is the purpose? Just to flat out prevent large age-gap relationships? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:41 AM
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It really wasn't bold, but then I'm going to argue about the articles your imagining in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:28 PM
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I think you might be misunderstanding the intent of those articles. I'm willing to bet the vast majority of them are intended to counter the perception that men are better at those things, or just flat out better. I think a lot of those articles probably fall into the trap of validating supremacist thinking and logic, but they are not intended to say women are superior. Rather that women are A) superior at some thing or B) not inferior in that thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:18 PM
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wow. Couldn't even pretend that 'no pill' flair was real.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:14 PM
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This counts as RP now? Maintaining a relationship? Seriously, what the fuck do you imagine differentiates RP from anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:00 PM
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Twitter said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:58 PM
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I never expected him to address mine, I was demonstrating his complete lack of curiosity. He doesn't want the answer, he wants his answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:48 PM
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This is probably nonsense for the simple fact that relationships of any kind do not break into discreet parts. You don't have to be in love with someone to eventually hate them, or think they are a bad influence on a child, or any other thing that leads to divorce and broken homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:03 PM
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exactly. She obviously married up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:11 PM
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glad you found someone your willing to live with. Your spouse must be thrilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:06 PM
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Again, that's just you complaining about someone else. Do you not see that by insisting your standards are fine you are proving my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:01 PM
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no, those are reasons you want someone else (women) to lower their standards. What do you need to lower about your own standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:57 PM
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Ah yes, the consequences of your own actions strike again. See, the thing is RP guys will say "obviously men are hornier than women and willing to fuck a woman he's not very attracted to." What that means is that preferences are basically non-existent, because they fail to actually alter behavior. He's going to say yes no matter what. So whats the right word for men? Fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:28 PM
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You'll see my reasoning elsehwere on this post, but I'll explain so you don;t have to search. When confronted with someone saying "they are nothing alike" he always responds "well they must be in some way" and demands an answer that fits his reasoning. The narcissism is that he refuses to accept any answer that says his reasoning is wrong. He has to be right somehow, and everyone is just failing to explain to his satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:47 PM
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This is so many layers deep of bizarrely fucked up I am actually impressed. Like, I can't even be mad at the racist subtext, lack of regard for religion in a persons life, describing of women as objects to be acquired, or even the RP 'beta male' language. It all meshes together into something amazing. Bringing Andrew Tate up is just the shit cherry atop this insane sundae.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:42 PM
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Its not even that you are wrong, or that this post is offensive in any way. What bothers me is the appeasement demonstrated by trying to explain such a simple concept in the framing of RP ideology. It just doesn't deserve that much consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:35 PM
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As someone who was also in the military, do not take military experiences of marriage as something to compare to. Marriage in the military is often the most fucked up versions of any situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:26 PM
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its more entertaining to engage maliciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:32 PM
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Alright. Explain to me how exactly "Well my view isn't that polarized." is a coherent response to what I said without having to make the 'polarized' interpretation do some real heavy lifting that wouldn't better fit a more appropriate and common word. Maybe I'm missing something and that's fine. Based on all his further comments its pretty clear English his is first language, but given the medium that is not always guaranteed. I was giving him an out that might make his insanity less insane due …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:30 PM
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...this comment really doesn't help the perception on this sub that women are out of touch with absurd expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:17 AM
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how high are you right now? How does this relate at all to my comment or even the parts you copied?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:14 AM
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Not gonna lie, I had to google that and it is not a rabbit hole I care to go down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:06 AM
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I'm trying to work out what this idiot is after. its either a) jerk off material, the leading theory right now b) he has a very very specific idea about what sex is/should be and is looking for examples of societies failure to admit that 'truth' c) something even more insane
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:58 AM
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See, the problem I think you'll find is that you say these things, and then use descriptions that are actually full of shit. "No one in good faith would ever make the ludicrous assertion that men are not, on average significantly bigger and stronger than women." Whats so fucking significant about it? Nothing. You just want it to be significant because that makes you feel better. It is not significant, and the point people make to you constantly (I assume) is that the difference doesn't fucking m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:55 AM
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Conservatives aren't exactly well known for staying out of people's personal decisions. I mean neither are liberals as far as politicians go, but conservatives are so damn self-righteous about it they need a swift punch to the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:49 AM
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You framed this in such a weird way. Therapy can change patterns of behavior and thinking. Those things can alter who someone finds attractive. I just don't get why you thought this framing would be helpful. Why would anyone want to intentionally and specifically use therapy to lower their standards? I'm just saying, if you make a conscious effort to lower your standards you are going to know you did that, and it doesn't change you thinking you 'should' be worth higher standards. It is an exerci…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:44 AM
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I'm curious, is this sincere? It just seems like your giving this guy way too much credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:32 AM
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Yes, we see your dick out while you stroke it demanding women explain how they mentally map a penis in their vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:29 AM
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Its not that we are close minded, its that he obviously isn't looking for understanding, he's looking for something specific and we are not providing, either incidentally or maliciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:26 AM
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You know what the best part is, you continuously demand people explain things for you yet when anyone asks you to explain suddenly you go silent. Almost like its not just a question being posed for the sake of understanding or curiosity, but rather you posted with a very specific purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:24 AM
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Do you mean sex? I am 100% sure you have never had sex. That's not even an insult, its just the only thing that explains such an absurd post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:22 AM
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If you understand that how something feels is dependent on the individual, explain to me why you think asking "What does sex for a woman feel like" is a valid question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:14 AM
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There is no answer you moron. That's the point everybody is trying to make. You asked a nonsensical question but are too self absorbed to even listen when people tell you it doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:11 AM
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It'll be a lot easier for an A.I. to move to a country that protects it than a person to move to another country. Vote with your feet has never been a realistic expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:07 AM
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Let me leave you with this: just because you think you're being serious doesn't mean anybody else has to take you seriously. And if people consistently don't (like this thread) then realize you're probably the one that's wrong, not the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:04 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiZhdpLXZ8Q Great video on why the metaverse and 'full' simulated reality are nonsense. Key points: no representation of the metaverse has ever been grounded in reality technology and peoples use of it trends towards efficiency, which is antithetical to a full 3d virtual world The hard limit on immersion is not technology but the human body and mind
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:02 AM
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Mate, you have been told by multiple people that are trying to be helpful that your comparison is wrong and useless, and your only response has been "okay but..." and you keep insisting that someone engage with your premise. Your premise is wrong. You now know this. Stop looking for the answer you want and accept the answer you got, which incidentally is the truth. You are wrong to think about sex this way. You are wrong. Your continued insistence that someone provide an answer that confirms you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:45 PM
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Charles is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:31 PM
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....Is English your first language? genuine question, that was an incredibly odd statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:29 PM
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no, it didn't. Everybody is laughing at you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:21 PM
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Mate you just asked a woman to describe the sensation of sex to you. If you don't understand why that's fucking creepy and weird or obviously meant for personal gratification then no one can help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:21 PM
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I'm asking you a question based on your insane claim that all orifices must feel similar enough to be worth comparing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:19 PM
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yes of course, because you are getting so many positive responses. I gave it to you straight, which you clearly need since you thought you could make that insane post and be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:18 PM
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go jerk off to something else. There is plenty to be found on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:15 PM
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Do you think putting something in your ear is similar to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:14 PM
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Your entire premise is fucking insane. Do not try and frame it as some audacious outsider thinking. This is insane bullshit imagined by a narcissist. You want to know what a dildo in your ass feels like? Anal masturbation, same for a woman. And for the love of god never fucking put something from anyone's ass into a vagina. I sincerely hope you are a child to not know something so basic and to think this line thinking is at all sane. Fucking fix yourself mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:12 PM
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Like anything else reliant on impossible technology, what is the point of this post? Also, what would prevent someone from determining such an A.I. is in fact sapient and therefore deserving of protections from slavery or forced relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:08 PM
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What the actual fuck mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:01 PM
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You really do love to prove yourself wrong. I never advocated for the most extreme measures, scandinavian countries are a great example, just not for your stupid fucking ideas because those countries are doing well. How fucking dumb do you have to be to essentially say "yes, in moderation what you proposed works, but examples of that are bad examples because they don't prove my point"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 06:10 PM
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I didn't. now google pogs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 06:04 PM
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You go ahead and google beany babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 06:02 PM
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I prefer Scandinavian countries personally, though Cuba is nice and China makes for a good trip as long as you don't do crazy stuff. Surprised you didn't mention Vietnam, which is also lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:55 PM
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Exactly. Corporations are inherently amoral, meaning as a society we have to implement programs that compel them towards moral action, not just accept that immoral action is acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:04 PM
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those shrooms are kicking in hard eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:30 AM
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I made my point. You are practicing social darwinism by trying to fit social and anthropological sciences into biological ones. Seperate from that, just for me personally, any theory that assumes some unobtainable perfect knowledge will result in perfect understanding is inherently flawed. That's what evolutionary psychology attempts to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:05 AM
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As stated, it seems to founded on his interpretations of mythologies no longer practiced at the time of writing and his suppositions of ancient cultures. Look man, I didn't read the whole thing in the past 20 minutes, but even what I did has some pretty clear problems. He cites cultures that only allow a husband to speak the name of their wife as an example of female power rather than say a demonstration of ownership. The point is he is creating a narrative, and even in his introduction admits t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:57 PM
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I didn't demand that from you, pretty sure you are confusing me with another thread you got going.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:47 PM
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the fact that you are so adamant about distinguishing between a law and a theory tells me you have no fucking idea what a scientific theory actually is. Incidentally I'm not sure it even is a law. Skimming through The Mothers his writing clearly has the expected flow of a work from that time, so calling his thesis a law when its based on half understood mythologies and suppositions of ancient cultures is a stretch. Comparing it to Newton even more so. Its a law in the same way evolution is a law…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:45 PM
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I wouldn't try. You clearly have missed the point. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:25 PM
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of course. Who is the most relevant person to quote when discussing modern dating culture in 2024? a surgeon born in 1874.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:23 PM
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mating behavior is a biological science. Dating is a social science. You know what its called when you apply biological methodologies to social sciences? Social Darwinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:58 PM
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evolution is the best tool to analyze modern dating habits? See, science isn't just one thing, and one subject of science doesn't apply to all things. but hey, every problem is a nail when all you have is hammer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:35 PM
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au contraire. Pointing out the absurdity is the only worthy contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:15 PM
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Right. women just choose jobs that pay less on their own, no wider cultural bias or systemic bias need be considered. Teachers should make less than electricians, thats the free market working. Its latina women's own fault for choosing to work such low paying jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:06 PM
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This week in pseudoscience bullshit because I'm too self absorbed and narcissistic to imagine people that don't quote "science" have anything of value to contribute to a discussion about complex social interactions... Women look for multiple things in a potential partner. Riveting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:45 PM
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and as already stated, that is such a bizarre comparison. Have you seriously never heard the phrase comparing apple and oranges? How is this so fucking difficult for you to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:11 PM
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except wives typically didn't inherit estates, sons did. We have been over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:01 PM
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Scene opens on a young lostcoshermanos adjusting his tie for prom. He winks into the mirror, damn he looks good and the sash was absolutely the right call. Talk about beefcake. He hears his fathers steps in the other room, loud and violent. He hears his mothers pleas, and his siblings as well. The man didn't work today, and so did not have money for booze. They would endure, as all had before. This one night belongs only to himself, and even his father will not ruin it. Well, himself and one oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:54 PM
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Damn taylor swift for...checks notes....going to football games. She obviously forced everyone participating and the stadium to focus on her, they had no choice!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:06 PM
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Wait you seriously went and read his posts? Mad respect mate. I guess now I have to own up. It has been a while since bottleblank and I argued on here, so maybe his posts are getting better and I didn't bother to check. From my experience what sets him off is people "not taking his/men's/someones" problems seriously. He constantly tries to equivocate personal social problems with systemic cultural ones, and falls back on the same "homelessness/suicide/depression" examples while denying the possi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:01 PM
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I never said I was against equality of outcome. I said we do not already have equality of opportunity. Lets lay this out, I gave you enough rope to hang yourself and you kindly obliged by providing links to studies that directly contract the point you were trying to make that equality of opportunity is the law of the land and affirmative action is discriminatory against white men. The call is coming from inside the house mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:51 PM
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I'll compare it to someone when they say "actually, Frankstein was the scientist" We know. We all know, its annoying to point out, stop being a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:47 PM
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She is having a worse time than her land owning husband. Why would you compare those two? Oh right, because even you know its bullshit so the only way to sound sane is I guess to compare the lives of a male peasant and a female aristocrat, never mind the female peasants and male aristocrats, they are inconvenient to your stupid point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:41 PM
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Wow man, you really are that stupid huh? Lets break this down shall we?According to this article people of color (POC) make up 38% of the population and only 23 percent of leadership positions. a "jump from 10% to 20% of the representation of POC in leadership positions by 2025" meaning getting in line with demographics. Basically, these companies are full of white men, and it looks bad. going from 20% to 40% is some communist '50-50' bullshit? Do you even know what numbers are? Even for the gra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:37 PM
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Right, she benefited from a system that denies women the ability to vote or own land regardless of status. you are a joke mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:24 PM
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Are those corporations primarily made up of women and minorities? Or are their HR departments pushing so hard because they are filled with white men and its bad PR? Are you a joke account making fun of stupid incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:20 PM
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by not being a woman in that same system.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:17 PM
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my comment very clearly states that equality of opportunity is not 'the law of the land.' You just made the exact same argument that other guy did to my response to that argument. Is this real?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:14 PM
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The fact that men fucked up oppression so bad we screwed ourselves is not a defense and it does not absolve men from the attempts. You don't have to directly participate in a system of oppression to benefit from it. Most men don't need to benefit for the systems created by the few for those systems to be oppressive to women. You ever see that clip of a redneck with a confederate flag shouting "my family didn't own slaves, we were too poor"? That's you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:10 PM
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Sure. That's obviously what I and everyone else mean by equality. Well done sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:03 PM
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The constitution. The constitution said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:00 PM
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Go take a dive into the mind of bottleblank and you too will see he needs to be told to stop feeling sorry for himself and expecting the world to mourn with his every grievance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:58 PM
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It is a disheartening experience, I agree. You think there is something to latch on to but then its like "oh, nope. Same shit different day."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:45 PM
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no, you're the idiot that thinks men are being oppressed. By I don't know, space lizards from alpha centauri or some shit because it sure as hell isn't women doing the oppressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:36 PM
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It was a light-hearted critique, but yeah. Even then you are reaching for the stars. Rarely do I find someone that both believes the nonsense underlying these kinds of posts and is capable of making a coherent argument that is tangent to reality. Not even real, just close to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:29 PM
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I really want you to consider what it means that posts with what you consider a "good premise" are actually insane rants. I had no idea this 'all lives matter" rally was going to be full of neo-nazis.....again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:17 PM
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I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:14 PM
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Yes, all those ways women can use their sexuality to gain things from men is absurd. Damn them for accepting things given to them! And if they don't want to use their sexuality to gain favors? Well their women so obviously they all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:11 PM
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I honestly don't know how you can be on this sub and not realize that men see gender roles as a way to control women. Not an arguement really, this is just genuinely confusing to me. Religious norms aren't used as way for men to control women? Abortion bans? Like I know you are going to say women follow those religions and women support conservative agendas, but are you seriously going to try and claim that social norms are not designed for men to control women? This seems so fundamentally true …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:03 PM
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So, I'll give you some leeway here because OP takes a pretty aggressive tone, But the point I think is that it may be possible to naturally not have those kinds of interactions given hobbies/location, but that doesn't make it normal or something anybody else needs to care about. At some point you need to take responsibility for yourself and your choices. Nobody forced you to not interact, it was just easy to avoid and focus on other things. That is not normal, and not something a woman needs to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:50 PM
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your tears of rage are showing mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:45 PM
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I just want to point out she is echoing a lot of the sentiment I have already provided you many many times. At some point you have to take responsibility for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:44 PM
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lol. He really thought you would argue that. love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:42 PM
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What I learned from you: Pewdiepie lives in japan (which doesn't make him a citizen) so their not racist. I have a black friend, how can I possibly be racist!?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:31 PM
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It is just as easy to track the gender inequality that consistently disadvantages women. You need to figure out how to take the extra step of considering who has social power when these decisions are made. You consistently fail to do so. Women didn't send the men to war, men did. You know, the politicians and people that actually declared and oversaw the war. The leaders of those tribes? Usually men. Saying men treat other men like shit and that's proof of social inequality is fucking stupid bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:28 PM
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A whole lot of rhetoric exemplifying the racist origins of this crap. The gem: they just have to assimilate and have the right requirements The right requirements are being ethnically Japanese. Look, this is pointless and you are becomingly an increasingly comical example of nationalist rhetoric so Imma tap out before you start talking about how immigrants lack moral fiber or refuse to properly assimilate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:22 PM
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Yeah, that's probably the bit that needs to be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:16 PM
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Or I recognize the difference between a social and cultural norm, like tribal or cultural affiliation, and a legal fact. There is no expectation that anyone regardless of ethnicity can claim to be part of a culture, however there is an expectation that anyone can gain legal citizenship regardless of ethnicity. The legal failures constitute racism in that they specifically disadvantage the minority. See, someone might argue that inclusion in a Native American tribe being based on ethnicity is the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:08 PM
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no thanks, I'm not your dad. Maybe do some shit yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:58 PM
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cool beans.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:56 PM
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Maybe I need to explain the difference between "joining an african tribe" whatever the fuck that means and a nation built on legal principle specifically preventing ethnic minorities from gaining citizenship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:56 PM
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As clarified elsewhere, the apocalyptic tone that its an immediate problem of dire consequence is where the origins become clear. Also, the solutions presented are comically stupid. Combined, we get OP not really knowing where this stuff comes from or its purpose; just hearing a reasonable sounding argument and running with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:50 PM
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Of course, I forgot Japan is the only asian country. Oh wait, its not, and has one of the highest racial homogeneity of any nation in the world. Because you know, racism. It doesn't take much thought to realize a lot of Asians from other countries around Japan would want to live and work in Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:46 PM
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well now I'm curious, who exactly am I parroting?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:34 PM
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its just too much of a discussion to have here knowing you are just going to nitpick and be a little bitch about everything. If you want to learn go learn, if not then I really don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:32 PM
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a poor example, as japan is in fact incredibly racist. You don't maintain a 98% racially homogeneous population by being inclusive. Maybe they could alleviate their population woes by being less racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:29 PM
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nobody is forcing people to socialize less. Yes, the economy is a significant contribution to lower birth rates. With that said, you really got yourself in a chicken and egg situation by saying we need higher birthrates to maintain the economy. How about improving the income inequality on the bases that doing so will improve birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:26 PM
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Agreed, I gave you the information, do your own research like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:21 PM
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but the apocalyptic tone is very clearly a result of racist rhetoric. I'm not saying OP is racist, I'm saying they don't understand the source of this "big problem" or the agenda behind it. Neither do you apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:15 PM
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There is that whataboutism again, welcome back. You don't know a fucking thing about prehistoric tribal cultures. Seriously, why would you ever imagine you can speak competently about this as some truth that has had direct influences on modern culture? Its such a weird thing that so many guys on here do, like obviously the flinstones is accurate enough to understand a culture, less technology means simpler to understand right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:13 PM
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They originate with great replacement theory, that minorities and immigrants have higher birth rates, even if those higher rates don't meet the equilibrium. Fluctuations in birth rates are normal. They exist on generational and therefore very long timelines. The factors that contribute to birthrates are so diverse and numerous that realistically any attempt at prediction not dependent on a single influence that outstrips all others (like a one-child policy or something) are just guesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:05 PM
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yeah, but OP specifies it being a problem for men in dating, so maybe stick to the assignment mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:50 PM
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You are appealing to some hypothetical past that wasn't also biased. The argument that social norms developed from natural states or truths separate from bias requires those past cultures and norms to not also have had bias. Hunter gatherers were not morally superior because they had fewer options in life. Even a second of thought will lead to the conclusions that they were just as flawed as future generations. It is just as valid to claim that men in the past favored dangerous jobs specifically…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:48 PM
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Do people here seriously not know that arguments about population decline were designed to specifically be racist? I really wonder if people understand where these ideas originate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:37 PM
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A surprisingly competent attempt to dress up the obligatory "women are entitled and out of touch and need to understand I'M the average" post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:29 PM
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"There is a case to be made that much of the stereotyping and fearmongering against black men and ethnic minority men in particular, is a more exaggerated and amplified stereotype of men in general, that they are violent, aggressive, brutish criminals." True. The thing is, the primary influence deciding when those behaviors seen as being male are dangerous is race. White men may be more aggressive than women but they are not a problem that needs to be dealt with, boys will be boys after all, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:51 PM
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Sure, because working overtime and doing a job you don't like more than another option are moral virtues. Master is always right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:36 PM
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It is the right direction, but you're still falling into the trap of trying to understand complex social interactions with a limited model, specifically science and logic. If you are actually trying to improve your interactions and your experience of those interactions, I would recommend trying to move further towards a "take things as the are" approach. Soak up everything and accept the explanations people give as true unless you have some specific reason to think they are lying or have an agen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:31 PM
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I'm in a good mood so I'll be nice. You seem to be arguing form the perspective that affermitive action has 'solved' gender bias and now all gains made are to the disadvantage of men in favor of women. Basically we reached equality 50-50, and continued feminist efforts move towards inequality. This just isn't true. It's just not. I do not believe you are so socially insulated you actually think that society has reached full equality between genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:11 PM
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Alright, I'll take you seriously for a minute. Lets go through the list shall we? Homelessness: A serious problem. It does affect men more than women. Its worth considering what either gender is subjected to while homeless when discussing systemic inequality. I would rather be a homeless man than a homeless woman, because of systemic inequity, but I have no interest in getting into a "cite your sources" bs debat. I am happy to just agree that this is one problem that is both primarily influenced…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:07 PM
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yes of course, because government aid like welfare and tax credits/loopholes (forgot about those eh?) are famously gender specific and primarily advantage women. All those billionaire CEO women. Of course, you were unable to figure out that even only discussing welfare as you intended the fact that it benefits women more than men could actually be an indicator that women are on average less well off than men....and in greater need of aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:45 PM
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You obviously thought about this more deeply than I figured. Glad I could be of use. OCD point: sex jokes are amoral in your example. Meaning they lack moral weight. You meant to say immoral. Not something to bring up to the gf should the topic arise again, just a pet peeve of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:39 PM
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and none of your whataboutism makes systemic inequality less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:28 PM
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income, political representation, leadership positions, abortion debates, ect ect. Anyone claiming women have the same opportunities as men is either A) delusional B) lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:26 PM
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thank you for proving my point. Men like you need our problems to be systemic and worse than women's to justify your victim complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:22 PM
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And your list of examples are tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:21 PM
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Insecurity is a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:51 PM
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Most people know this. Not on here, but in the world. I guess my point is inviting people to talk about it on PPD will only invite the deterministic pseudoscience crowd. This is an extreme example, but you are doing the equivalent of inviting racists to discuss the actual social contributions and impacts of minorities. That doesn't matter, they are racists, and all those things are excuses for their actual opinion. Same with all the pill guys (RP is the only pill, BP is just a catchall for anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:45 PM
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Real galaxy brain stuff. Love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:36 PM
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*Edit, I answered the inverse* Women *have it worse*. Systemic oppression and inequality is such a broad problem it touches on everything else. That is the reason so many guys on here try to claim there is systemic oppression of men, because it is so clearly worse than personal or 'purely' social problems (like being called a creep). If the world or western civilization has a misandrist agenda then men get to be the oppressed, despite all the continued evidence that men have more power and oppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:33 PM
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....Yeah. I mean this sounds like a bunch of bs, but even assuming its true why would it surprise you? Nobody likes when someone punches down. RP influencers are punching down, and I guess what we are calling 'RP like' women influencers are punching up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:22 AM
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I see what your trying to do here mate, and I don't question your sincerity so I'll try not to be harsh but this is not a good road to go down. This is not empathy. in fact, used too broadly, which your post gets damn close to, it is antithetical to empathy. You've tried to twist an entirety different mode of thinking to fit yours, and used that as an example of empathy. Empathy is actually trying to inhabit another persons experience and modes of thinking. Basically, You found a way to fit that…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:52 AM
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oh look another post abou....YAWN
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:35 AM
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another whinging child that imagines himself a man. Welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:24 AM
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What the fuck are you on about? Mate, I never said I supported the law. I specifically argued against the law, just repeating my same argument but replacing women with men is not insightful. I know what my argument against it is, I don't need you to explain it to me with a different example. I used the example of a woman because OP seems to be supporting the law as a protection for women. Are you seriously this fucking stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:39 AM
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Yes, that's obviously what I meant. And completely relevant to my point. Oh wait, its just some bullshit 'whataboutism' from a fucking moron. OP is about a law, not just a facebook group.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:54 AM
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exactly how many chances do you imagine you should get to try and make something obviously stupid sound reasonable? He even clarified in his response "all the time". Do you think millionaires represent what happens "all the time"? Are they a valuable marker for the average experience? Or, are they as I described, the fringe. You know, in the fact that they represent less than a percent of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:24 AM
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Or join the military. That's what I did when my fiance left me to become a stripper. Can't say things got better, but they sure as hell changed. Jokes aside, I do think some drastic change in routine can be enough to shake things loose and get the process moving. But I'm not a doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:30 PM
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the data breach is all the government ID information, not that someone has a dating profile. Are you intentionally misunderstanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:21 PM
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no mate, most people don't want a relationship with someone "showing too much weakness or too much mental instability." You seem to be arguing that the threshold of "too much" is so low that there is no room for 'enough'. That is wrong, that's my point. Too much really is too much, not just a mislabeled threshold that makes it impossible to have a LTR. It makes it impossible for you because you got a lot of shit to deal with. I'm not trying to diminish that or its importance, but just expecting …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:13 PM
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exactly. Your "all the time" example is Bill Gates. Stop digging that hole mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:01 PM
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Honest question: Why do guys always bring up the most fringe cases for this crap? Bill Gates? Seriously? He is famously one of the richest men in the world. Yeah, you successfully identified fucking Bill Gates can do nothing at home and get a wife, but you were unsuccessful in realizing that 99.999999999% of the men in the world are not comparable to Bill Gates. This is like the saddest version of the "when I'm a millionaire" mindset. You honestly thought bringing up Bill gates would prove your …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:22 PM
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Damn all those rich model high status men that do nothing but play video games all day and get spoiled by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:55 PM
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the kind you seem to agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:28 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0B_ekSrsEk Yeah mate, peoples expectations of themselves, especially men, seems really fucking low. Really though, that's all you should need to do in a relationship. It doesn't need to be some dramatic bs that overtakes your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:26 PM
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Another great point. It won't prevent fraud, it will just add identity theft to the list of crimes. You don't need to enter information accurate to you, just information accurate to some government ID. Steal a wallet and you have a new profile. As for where to get some new ID's? Turns out dating apps will be a great source.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:51 PM
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good for you. How you personally would use it doesn't matter, what matters is how it could be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:35 PM
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I laughed. Still, considering who the "MUH FREEDOMS!!!" people are, please don't group us all together. Some people in 'Merica have brains, if not always education.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:31 PM
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You have a point here. Not your sexist bullshit, but that requiring ID would make it much easier to harass women on dating sites. Cindy(27) from San Fran really is Cindy. Lets go ruin her life because she laughed at me when I told her I do close-up magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:05 PM
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So there is absolutely nothing in there about marital status. It is specifically about monetary fraud, making a false profile to get money from another user. With that said, the requirement for a government ID would not solve the issue of fraud. All it would do is make people use their real information when creating an account, they can still lie to get money, they just can't falsely claim to a woman or whatever. It doesn't make it any easier to find legal recourse either, it just makes a requir…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:49 PM
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This is a you problem. You need professional help. The way your describing 'vulnerability' is clearly indicative of some serious mental health issues. Also, I found the exact opposite is true. I am extremely private and stoic and never tell anyone my problems, and when I was younger (the age I am imagining for you btw) women always left because I never gave them anything to latch on to for a LTR. People want to feel needed. showing vulnerability is how a partner knows they are needed. that doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:23 PM
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The answer is that progressive movements have historically been about progress for oppressed groups. Because of that, the language and focus is not really well suited to the kinds of social progress you're talking about for men. Feminism should already cover these changes your talking about for men, and a lot of feminists do include them; a shift in focus from oppression towards equality does address them. However, because there still exists a great deal of sexism and oppressive views towards wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:13 PM
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No True Scotsman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:04 PM
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and that's creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:26 AM
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"but she wanted it" is never going to be a good defense. I don't mean legally, obviously legally OP is fine, I mean socially. More to the point, its about the 27yo man's actions and desires that are what make it creepy and predatory. Nobody blames the younger person, especially when they are conceivably at an age where they are not really expected to be making good decisions. To use an inflammatory example that people will (I hope) understand: Nobody blames teenagers for recording themselves or …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:33 AM
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You clearly wrote this after reading a bunch of comments because OP says 19, not 21. Still, to address your actual point: yes, you correctly identified that different circumstances have different results. Just saying things used to be different or that some people have different circumstances is not helpful here. Things are they way they are now, in the place he is. Now, I assumed that to be America/Western Europe, but you seem to have made the same assumption so I'm not sure why your bitching a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:20 AM
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The real answer is that a 27yo is different in almost every way from a 19yo. Sexual experience is the least important measure for compatibility. the more real answer is that while I can't define where the line is exactly: a 27yo coming up with reasons to date someone 8 years younger and still a teenager is incredibly creepy and predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:35 AM
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You know what I meant and how ego is used in modern English. Nobody likes you, and making such stupid pedantic arguments only demonstrates how stupid and detached from reality you are. Shut up nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:10 AM
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It is baffling to me how consistently people on this sub look for bullshit pseudoscience answers for every possible thing. There is just no way you're going to get an even remotely scientific answer to this and it is completely you're own fault for asking the question so poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:49 AM
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I am a man, I know the perspective. To be clear though I'm not saying men need to be friends after rejection. I'm saying if you don't value friendship and dating equally then don't try and be friends. I see how you got there, a lot of the time on this sub people argue against something as a way to argue for the opposite, but that was not my intention. I do think its better to be mature enough to value platonic relationships as much as dating, but I'm not here to tell people to be better. It's mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:38 AM
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That was completely from left field. Honestly that was so jarring I have no follow-up or reaction. You do you mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:34 AM
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while putting on makeup is not the only thing that's normalized, I get your point. That's the hand being dealt, play it or don't. If you don't that's on you. Men don't "risk rejection". Rejection and failure are normal, in all facets of life. Nobody is owed success. All that's at risk is your ego, and that shit don't matter to anyone but you. I already know someone is going to respond that rejection means being ostracized by their friends or whatever and has real consequences, but that's bullshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:14 AM
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This kind of thinking is wrong from the start. The fixation with dating is the problem. There is not a linear progression from stranger -> friend -> boyfriend. You need to be mature enough to show interest and when rejected actually be capable of being friends. Not 'nice guy wait for my opening' bullshit, let her know your interested and if she says no then be friends. Whether things can progress from there is irrelevant. You need to be able to see friendship and dating as equally valuable to ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:01 AM
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yeah....this is some bullshit, but you got near the point. The real problem is that the things women need to do to get dates are so normalized they are seen as not doing anything. Its just normal. What men need to do is not as normalized so its seen as something requiring effort, effort most women already put in everyday. I love the scene in Master of None when Aziz goes on a date with a girl who wears a dirty hoody, spends the whole time on her phone and then mentions for the second date she wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:48 AM
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What? This makes no sense. What is there to take personally and from whom? You seem to be talking about society/women in general, which is just stupid. Nobody made those men fail until their 30s. The idea of taking it personally is just strange, and completely lacks any sense of personal agency. The world did not conspire against them, or you. You made choices that entire time, as did everybody else in the world. You seem fine btw, I'm not frustrated at you, I'm frustrated that you seem to think…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:18 AM
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That's my general understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 12:05 PM
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I'm trying to get you to realize that arguing the technicalities of how rich 200k/year is sounds absurd, and makes you sound absurd for doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:33 AM
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"moral injustice" Perfect. As I said already, you are appealing to some purely academic sense of morality that is completely lacking in context of what has actually occurred and is occurring in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:41 AM
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I have to know, why are you so insistent that 200k is not a lot? Its such a weird stance to take over and over. 200K/year is a lot. Objectively. By literally any measure. I'm getting a vibe you personally find it annoying when people point that out, because you like to think of yourself as average, but you are not. I was the same way for a long time, hated when people said or implied I am privileged, but that was a me problem, and this really seems like a your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:37 AM
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*edit* for some reason reddit copied a later portion of my post over the beginning, that's annoying. Thanks for the context, I couldn't figure out why you believed men calling submission cooperation were being honest. I think it comes down to a view of hierarchy being not only true, but necessarily true. The idea of "well someone has to decide at some point" brought to its logical end. Basically, I think these men are saying at some point someone decides, and they want to be the final voice. Let…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:27 AM
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people lack self respect. People are delusional. People are selfish. Maybe I just read into it but your whole vibe seems to be that those are all failings of some kind, but they are just being human. The problem is trying to frame it in a 'logically consistent' way which is what you seem to be attempting to do. Applying that measure of logic is where you went wrong. Not even trying to be aggressive about it, though I am in a mindset from other discussions I am having. You seem sincere, so I am t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:10 AM
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A surprisingly accurate view, about women being included with minorities at least. The common factor, and the one that you clearly think also includes men but obviously doesn't, is that there is an oppressor group. I had a great conversation with someone about the failings of feminism for black women in particular. Good times that. But no, see you are doing the exact same thing of trying to equate them and men's issues as a whole with your "men don't isn't really based on anything of actual subs…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:04 AM
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don't be the idiot that interrupts my cat fight with bottleblank there. Just enjoy the show mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:55 AM
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If you can only frame this as "lowering standards" then you failed the test before it even began. My point being you are thinking of it the wrong way from the beginning. Also, just as a bit of advice, it is never going to go well if you imply you or someone else 'settled' for a 'lower standard' in your/their relationship. Also, relationships don't end because someone in that relationship, or both people, failed at something. I read through your comments and that's another one you seem to be look…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:43 AM
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You need to take some literacy courses about context. All you said was that you think its unfair people include context in their understanding of what you say and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:32 AM
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Oh look. Its you. Boo hoo your feelings are valid and you really are the victim. It is not arbitrary. I have explained this to you before. You. Those tactics were used against an oppressor group. There is no oppressor group for men. Blah blah feminism I know, but you are just wrong. See, here is the motivating factor for men like you. All you know about feminism is the abrasive tactics, it was the only part that broke through to you because you ignored the rest of it. Those things OP is saying? …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:30 AM
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it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:51 PM
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Exactly. What I keep repeating to guys on this sub is that trying to adopt the abrasive and adversarial style of past social movements to force change will not work. Should not work honestly. Men, especially white men, do not get to adopt those tactics. But, so many guys here see a few real problems and then feel like they are entitled to the same movements and tactics and so on of previous social movements. They use it as an opportunity to be assholes while with a veneer of social champions lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:21 PM
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right. Women and blacks were handed everything because they didn't revolt. The only ones who did revolt were slavers and those fucks lost so hard their still crying about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:10 PM
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This is so confusing. Explain yourself. How did you get from my comment to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:05 PM
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*getting the popcorn ready* Now for the show. Incidentally, I agree with you. One thing worth pointing out is that one of the most prevalent forms of social action, the language of social action and inciting society at large to engage with the topic even if that means being adversarial, just will not work for men's issues. No-one will ever trust a man throwing 'men's rights' or whatever in their face is anything but an asshole trying to claw back progress already made by other groups. A men's ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:58 PM
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yeah....I started getting that impression lol. Note to self, make the first argument better next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:45 PM
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While I framed it poorly at first, part of my disregard for political establishments as they currently exist is that I suspect any policy that can not account for declining population amongst the lowest socio-economic classes is necessarily harmful to them. I.E. high unemployment and depressed wages as exists in the US and many other places which specifically prevents the lowest classes from improving their status. One of the 'necessary changes' I spoke of earlier if population decline were to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:36 PM
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yeah mate, its the Daily Mail. Why TF would I read it carefully?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:27 PM
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Alright, here is the crux of the issue in my mind. Are you saying we have an ethical or moral obligation to prevent population decline because it will adversely affect vulnerable peoples? That is what it sounds like. I would say we do not have such a moral obligation. Now, I screwed up the beginning of such a debate and I would prefer to leave it at agree to disagree at this point if you are advocating for that moral obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:23 PM
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And just taking each new argument as a self contained issue no matter demonstrably one can see it is in bad faith just grants undeserved validity to bad faith attempts like OP. This is like hearing someone say "I'm not a white nationalist I just think the nation should be 80% white" and taking them at their word. No, they are a white nationalist. Call them out and stop giving them infinite chances to convince an audience of their lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:17 PM
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Mate I have absolutely no idea who you are crusading against right now. Unless you have some stat otherwise, population decline affects the poor far less than the wealthy. Its the wealthy and educated having fewer children. The only way that would change is if there is an event or policy put in place specifically to target the poor. You seem to be arguing that I'm ignoring that will happen as though its certain. Its not enough to say it affects the poor more, because there are more poor people p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:04 PM
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lol. If I thought that was the case I would try. That's actually why I asked if English is his native language, because if not then some of the more questionable word choices would be understandable. But no, I'm not just going to assume the best case, particularly given his responses in his last post on this exact same topic. Even if it is a misconception, the misconception is that he know better how women should judge men's potential as a romantic partner. That's already a very damning sexist m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:55 PM
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yeah.....alright. Bad example, poorly used. population decline due to social norms is not comparable to that kind of event. That was the point I was making. It is not a mass casualty event. It naturally ebbs and flows, and exists within a range of norms. Even at the edges of that range, the risk is to political establishments. And when the population actually does significantly decline? The circumstances that lead to that social norm causing it will change. You framed it as their being a need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:50 PM
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The framing that women are too stupid or selfish to consider a man's 'potential' so they need to be told how to do it correctly. Women already know how to do that. They already do it. This dude is just unhappy they aren't doing it 'right' and thinks he needs to explained it to them. Also, as already mentioned in my comment, given his post history I do not think he has even considered a similar method for men to judge women's potential. He clearly assumes men deserve the benefit of the doubt, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:40 PM
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Using polite language doesn't make your post any less offensive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:32 PM
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Eh. I disagree. The fact is no amount of population decline originating from social norms poses a threat to the species. Not with how many people exist. Just using lazy wiki stats, the black death killed off 50% of the population in Europe, leaving somewhere around 50 million people and guess what? Europeans survived. The only things in danger from population decline are political establishments. Guess what? Nations rise and fall, the species survives. I'm not saying it would be good, but the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:30 PM
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Well its obviously the only rational and logical way to view things. Anyone failing to met the most strict 'logical' reasoning is just too stupid to understand. Also, what is symbolic logic or ethics? Those have nothing to do with what I call logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:07 PM
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Jesus Mate. Honest question, is English not your first language? If it is not then I'll allow some of that to slide. The crux of the issue seems to be you think women are failing to recognize men with potential. This just isn't true from any of my experience, but more importantly, even if it is sometimes true that doesn't mean its something that needs to be fixed. Women do not need to give up what they want now for what might be possible in the future, so already your entire argument is nonsense…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:55 PM
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I like to think he means King of Queens or Married with children. Both men in those shows obvious 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:35 PM
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You really don't seem to deserve a real answer, but I'm going to provide on anyways. The circumstances of most instances of rape make them a "he said/she said" situation that do not meet the strict requirements for evidence in court. That doesn't mean that there was no crime committed, only that the crimes most often committed fail to have evidence usable in court.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:24 PM
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Oh no! That wasn't enough time to watch the video! Why aren't you taking my criticism seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:13 PM
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Because you used a quote about being a soldier in WWII on a post about dating. You are a joke. Your attempts to frame yourself as tough and successful are as transparent and ineffectual as Donald Trump's. "right cross, left hook, and right uppercut to the liver; punchdrunk from serious IQ ordnance" Seriously mate. You are a joke. Whatever fantasy of success and masculinity you are clinging to online is the most pathetic idea of success and masculinity possible. You are the moron that took Fight …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:03 PM
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And this relates to you how?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:49 PM
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I have no doubt the women you date "catch the ick". Again, clearly a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:44 PM
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maybe oversharing there mate. Also clearly a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:41 PM
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If I thought your bs was worth engaging with seriously I would have done. The fact that you took a punch and stayed on point made me decide to give you an olive branch. Most guys on here can't even take the slightest pressure without flipping out about how unfair the world is and 'woe is me' bullshit. You didn't, so lets laugh at the moron linked. No worries though, that other post is still hilarious, and yours is still unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:38 PM
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lol. All or nothing right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:34 PM
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Alright I'll bite. Explain to me why you think this. It is so completely detached from reality I have to know how you got here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:32 PM
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I love these posts, they are so detached from reality. A man 1) Doing more chores is obviously equitable to a woman 1) Somehow guaranteeing they never cheat (the fair point) in a way the man will accept (the unreasonable part 9/10 times) 2) Never considering divorce for any reason 3) Never refusing sex Great stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:27 PM
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Admittedly the better initial response to your diatribe would have been But that gif was used so effectively on a post earlier it almost seems disrespectful to use it for your bs. It already reached its pinnacle before you ever arrived. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/18j0xwv/women_are_the_ones_slowly_destroying_the_dating/ if you are interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:14 PM
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I get why you would think that. I'll just say that 'population decline" is so consistently a talking point of great replacement theory that given the other topics this person has made I do not give them the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:56 PM
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I'll just burst the bubble. Successful people, particularly attorneys, have basic literacy in tone and tonal consistency. Nobody actually successful would shift so wildly in tone as you do, both in OP and in your comments. You are clearly someone trying to sound smart. However, you also believe in TRP adjacent ideology, and you fail to understand how absurd and abrupt the shifts in tone are between when you try to sound smart, and when you use the lingo of your ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:51 PM
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Be honest, how close was I to your facebook post from HS?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:42 PM
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Mate that article is about how that woman killed herself because of the humiliation of being caught. Also, its from the Daily Mail.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:41 PM
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Really does put in perspective how obviously racist OP was with that nonsense. Japan has had an aging population for a generation. But oh no now maybe its happening to white people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:37 PM
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For my own sanity I have to believe you understand what I am telling you. This is not the hill to die on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:33 PM
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While you were out on dates, I was studying the sword While you were attempting to find happiness, I was studying the sword While you were at the gym, I was studying the sword
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:32 PM
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No, they are not debating it fine. There is literally not a single comment on OP that is actually debating what you said. All the debates are taking place about your explanation of OP. You have had to explain or amend the original post in every instance to get someone to engage with it. I'm not even being mean anymore. Look through the comments. There is literally not a single comment to OP about OP that you consider to have understood it correctly. Every single comment on OP about it you have g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:23 PM
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I honestly can't tell if you meant this post for your main or alt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:08 PM
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what even qualifies as good faith to that rant? It is devoid of meaning. Maybe it made sense to you, but you have to know by now that it is complete nonsense to literally everyone else. Nobody responding has had any idea what you are trying to say, or how your explanations relate to your OP. I was just trying to give you an easy out. That is the most good faith gesture I could conceive of.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:06 PM
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seriously mate if you made this with chat gpt that would make so much more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:03 PM
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I literally cannot stop laughing. Never has there been a more perfect post for that gif.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:02 PM
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we need to archive all of it, including his responses. They just make it even more insane. those numbers are growth I guess? He is planning to set his daughter up with a level 6?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:00 PM
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bro, lets just be real here for a minute. How many shrooms did you eat?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 03:58 PM
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What the actual fuck are you on about? What are those numbers? Why are they 'levels'? What is the unit being measured? What is your source? Am I the crazy one? What even is this world anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 03:56 PM
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wow. I had no idea what he meant. It was such a weird thing to say. I guess thanks for clearing this up for me, though honestly I would have preferred to never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 03:48 PM
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Its a good thing women are not sapient people with their own free will. Then we can blame it all on other men. Lets play this out for a minute. Why the hell would anyone participate in this? Successful men aren't going to agree to be the villains, well they probably will but not sincerely. Men that are married and in LTR aren't going to risk that by trying to shame other men when its none of their business anymore. All you've done is try to focus angry pathetic men away from hating women as expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:13 AM
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I've tried pointing this out many many times. It never works. I've even asked people to explain to me why the think perfect logical answers exist, and that dating can be 'maximized' in some way. All I got was a bunch of links of videos about how to max dating and replies that women are naturally so and so and all the normal stuff. Maybe you can get through better with this. Honestly, if you find a way to explain this that someone expecting a 'logical' or 'common sense' answer will accept, or eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:56 AM
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lol. This is so different from what I expected. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:44 AM
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You know, I felt kinda bad about my reply for a minute there. It was obviously too aggressive for some rando joining the conversation. But that comment was so weird I no longer feel bad. I'm now just confused. Please explain the line of reasoning that lead you to that comment. I have to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:00 AM
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Actually what I wanted was for him to further undermine his own argument by saying that he understands that explicit intent is not the only thing worth listening too. He already did once, figured I could get him again. Got greedy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:53 AM
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I do generally try to save my ire for people who I think deserve it. This wasn't his and my first rodeo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:51 AM
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Thanks Joker. What will your next dastardly plan be? Will Gotham survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:48 AM
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Not gonna lie, proud of that one. It was however an easy goal with that guys assist to be fair. Not that he knows he was assisting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:47 AM
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That's the joke mate. What you consider productive is so transparently unethical its not even worth considering.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:41 AM
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That's really not what happened, but I can see you're in too deep to notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:05 PM
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damn all those entitled women. Surely you aren't entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:02 PM
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that was some profoundly piss poor alliteration. It requires they all start with a 'p' sound, not just be spelled with a p.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:54 PM
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How nice of you to specify women. That definitely doesn't suggest intent you have failed to explicitly state.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:40 PM
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Strip them of agency. The classic answer to "how do I get that bitch to sleep with me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:38 PM
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​ <image> Anything not explicitly stated does not compute.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:31 PM
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Wait, did you genuinely not understand the "we know" comment? No more implications needed. You are an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:27 PM
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I got a bridge to sell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:19 PM
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You know, this back and forth compelled me to look at your history a bit, and I found this gem: "I didn’t say you’re old. But men of the likes of Leonardo DiCaprio and myself wouldn’t consider you a viable dating partner." - to a 28yo woman. You keep being you mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:18 PM
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and your money. Works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:05 PM
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What are you on to use 'SSRI' in that comment? Was that an attempt to prove you're smart because I implied you're an idiot in another thread? Do you know how to human? ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:02 PM
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We know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:47 PM
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See, once again you miss the point. Its funny he said all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:43 PM
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...Why do you think the sky is blue? Hint: just saying "because it is" isn't an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:27 PM
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Lets just take a minute to appreciate some of OPs hot takes: "most people arent equipped to handle the raw truth" Edgy. must be one of A Few Good Men. "lying is necessary to live in society" So edgy "All men need to struggle to achieve" Like a knife! "Morality is a privilege of those in abundance" Such insight. Truly, the world does not appreciate his greatness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:25 PM
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Morality is a privilege of those in abundance. You are really harping on that eh? Maybe try waiting until the second lesson of Philosophy 101 before posting. Or you know, wait until Ethics 101 next semester.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:18 PM
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Step one: compare dating to literal starvation Step two: Justify lying on dates as equivalent to not starving. See? Don't make things better, be the worst actor. Anyone arguing against racing to the bottom is just too privileged to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:15 PM
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Why would that not be stringing along? Do only explicitly stated intents count?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:39 AM
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I was surprised when I first started reading this sub exactly how many men here imagine themselves logical and scientifically minded. Now, you're just one more in a long line of deluded guys that think because you are 'above average' that makes you intelligent. Your ideas of logic are comical, your standards for debate a smokescreen, and I just have no patience to coddle you. The last time I actually decided to use actual logic on this sub the guy started following and down-voting my every post …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:35 AM
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Hello to the obligatory objectivist. Hows it going bud? Angry at the world for failing to realize your genius and inherent superiority?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:11 AM
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If I said "Asians are the best at math" or "Black people make the best athletes" would you call me hateful? Yes these are generalisations, indeed they are not always correct. You expect to have a discussion about the accuracy of inherently supremacist and racist ideas. It doesn't matter how accurate they are, what matters is that they are supremacist or racist. Trying to argue the accuracy of your beliefs validates the logic that lead to those beliefs. It doesn't matter how many top level chess …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:07 AM
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Andrew Tate is that you mate? How'd those tweets to Greta Thunberg work out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:31 AM
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I made the argument. Supremacist ideologies are hateful. You went and tried to defend actions and beliefs you yourself called racist. You completely failed to demonstrate even a basic understanding of science and biology. See, its pretty clear you want to argue this to some point that can conceivably end with "agree to disagree." Its an attempt to cast your beliefs, which are transparently sexist and racist, as reasonable. They are not. They are sexist and racist. Even if someone did decide to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:21 AM
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Why are you asking this based on a fictional book set in 1860? Charisma and flattery is the answer. Diplomacy is the art of charisma and flattery. At least the kind you seem to be imagining.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:14 AM
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You clearly don't understand the time scale involved in evolution or adaptive mutation. Never mind my previous advice, if you think that nonsense you said was science I cannot and more importantly do not care to help you. Also, you don't have to be specifically racist to have racist beliefs, and you don't need to specifically hate a group to have a hateful belief. That was the point of my post, which you obviously didn't understand. The fact that you are treading so blatantly into justifications…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:01 AM
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Ohh, so you were trying to troll, and failed. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:48 AM
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Seems I gave you too much credit. Trolls be trollin'
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:38 AM
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All I can offer is the mental exercise of applying such a belief to race. Do you think no black person will ever be the best chess player? That's racist. Its hateful. This is what I mean by the dubious nature of statements about what "naturally is" when it comes to abilities or social norms. There are so many influences to such things that it is just absurd to assume some natural baseline that must be true, and determines the limit of what is possible. If your interested in exactly why those kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:36 AM
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A fair question. Specifically related to my comment I'm alluding to TRP men that are unsuccessful in dating and grow resentful. Basically all the guys here talking about hypergamy, and how women lack empathy and always cheat or whatever else, because they are by and large ways to blame women for that man's own failures and dating or even social interactions in general. More broadly though I would say most TRP men are hateful, not because they necessarily hate women, but because they support ideo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:10 AM
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I mean they already are removed from the equation. They change or rot alone forever. I think we are both talking about unsuccessful RP guys. The successful ones will continue to be successful, so the whole android thing doesn't affect them at all anyways. Its just the resentful unsuccessful ones it would affect, and honestly fuck 'em. Happiness is not something they or anyone is entitled to, and I see no reason to help them. But I guess its not like I would try and stop androids from existing ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:51 AM
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There is a clear performative component to this. Its not just a true statement of what those men want (18-24 females). Its also a way to judge other men as failing by not getting the 'ideal' and a way to judge women for not fitting within the ideal. There is just too much subtext to statements like that to really take them at face value. And even then, its probably not strictly true as what that man believes. Its a handy tool to bludgeon others with and annoy society with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:42 AM
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Sure mate, its a fun hypothetical to assume those trivial things are what women most value in a relationship, because they are shallow and selfish and don't care about other people. Its amazing how many guys here fail to understand the assumptions being made before the text they write.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:34 AM
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As for the whole "No one actually wants all of the RPers to either settle for the average woman or rot forever" you are completely missing the point for most people. I don't care if they rot alone forever or not, what I am not going to do is indulge hateful assholes. I'm not just going to give them something so that they'll be hateful assholes somewhere else, I'm going to tell them to stop being hateful assholes first. Most people I think would agree. Let them rot alone forever if they are unwil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:32 AM
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Its such a transparent fixation. Everyday is some bs about paternity tests. They already exist. Use one. The only reason to try and make them mandatory is to create a foundation for further laws to build upon. Usually, laws that will negatively impact children. Usually, as already made apparent by the comments here, as a foundation to deny financial support to children. So, here is my proposal. Universal paternity tests and universal childcare. That way, you know the truth and children are prote…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:25 AM
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Oh, its so much better than that. See, Tate is so stupid he found out GRETA was after him, so he tried to antagonize Greta Thunberg, was utterly humiliated, and then while trying to further antagonize her posted evidence of his location so that Romanian police knew he was in country and arrested him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 09:01 PM
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Why are so many women Christian? Why would so many women follow Jesus Christ if they are not similar?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:44 PM
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This is some clear observer bias. I'm going to take a totally wild guess you are a man. You identify men across the world as being similar to you because you can identify and empathize with their behavior and situation. You do not identify or empathize with women, so the differences appear more pronounced. Essentially you are only seeing the result, not identifying with the motivations that cause that result. That isn't some accusation that you fail to empathize with women or whatever. Just poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:42 PM
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I'm glad someone jumped in, because I wouldn't be able to competently make them, as I don't believe them personally. Sensitive_Truck_3015 hit bullseye though because I don't assume every religious person is inherently controlling or ill-intentioned, or every argument to be another way to control the populace.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:26 PM
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sounds great. Love all those things that make me lash out with vitriol when I digest them. Do you work in PR?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:30 AM
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boy are you in for a ride with the comments already being typed. That said, humiliating people for failure isn't always the best approach. And the fact that your entire rant about who needs to be humiliated seems to be about women isn't a great look. Congratulations though on pissing off every side by just being a dick. Its rare to see it so clearly made manifest. Kinda respect the confidence of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:19 AM
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There are actual moral and ethical arguments to be made against hookup culture. That said, the guys here are shit at making them. Its always got to tie into whatever insane misandry angle they are on about. But I've made this point before to guys complaining about dating. Nobody gets online with that much vitriol about a subject unless they are failing at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:07 AM
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and they used to have at least friend. Tom was the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:05 AM
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Your question is not simple or direct. Again, you need to sort out your thoughts. Also, I answered directly. Just because my answer wasn't one of the two you wanted doesn't mean I failed it answer. I'll restate my answer more succinctly for you. The question is not taboo to ask for either gender, however men so often give insulting misogynistic answers to the question "what does/should a woman bring to the relationship" that it is not worth asking. Guys who don't give shit answers? Nobody cares …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:01 AM
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No offense here mate, you need to take a minute to sort out your thoughts. I have no idea how this is supposed to relate to my comment. At no point here do you ask anything near "what do I get out of this" You are answering the opposite "what do I bring" I do not see any appreciable difference between "I have a job" and "I will do x to improve the relationship" beyond the having a job one requiring you to extrapolate possibilities rather than giving a specific list. I can only assume you have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:36 AM
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Its not taboo at all. To ask I mean. What is generally seen as taboo are certain answers. If your answers are ones that are insulting and misogynistic, as implied by your whole "for wxmen to answer with a response that actually makes sense" then yeah, people are not going to want to talk about it with you. The problem is that the answers are so consistently awful its not worth raising the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:23 AM
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As I'm sure you've noticed, a lot of RP thought centers on the idea that they are describing the natural and unchangeable state of dating. There is no better alternative. Or, if it does change, it only gets worse for men because boo hoo look at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:16 AM
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Are you a false flag account to try and prove how stupid TRP guys are? Honest question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:21 PM
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Thank you for being the example of what TRP is now. Women are selfish manipulators and men need a strategy to defend themselves from women taking advantage of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:15 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:13 PM
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addressed in the video I linked. I don't care if you don't want to watch it. Also, the fact that he mentions Tate would mean he is talking about other male mentors besides Tate and the manosphere as those that are lacking. Maybe give OP another read there mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:45 PM
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This is some clear cherry-picking. Compare the instances of women refusing to allow men to mentor for 'feminist' reasons to the number of men that choose themselves not to mentor for the reasons I gave, and the absurdity of your claim is transparent. Women didn't do this to men, we did it to ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:39 PM
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I am both curious and terrified for you to expand on the whole " especially if you are a man dating a woman" This mostly just sounds like a basic "deviant behavior is unacceptable so you need to confess." The focus on men's deviant behavior gives it a real religious touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:15 PM
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Haven't had many problems myself. I'll reiterate in case it seems otherwise. Its great flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:07 PM
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This is, in my opinion, the single most destructive trait of toxic masculinity. The idea of "I'm on my own and so is he, he'll figure it out or fail. That's what I did." I would say the reason there are few mentors is because there are very clear lines of who can be a mentor, and when you are overstepping bounds. That teacher? Even if he wanted to help he probably knew you have a step-dad. Not his sandbox. The few people outside of family that are 'allowed' to mentor young men have to do so an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:23 PM
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Honestly mate, I think you need to claim yourself something else. The world keeps turning. I sometimes wonder about people that are against affirmative action, or whatever so they show up at Charlottesville only to be standing next to someone yelling "kill Jews" waiving a nazi flag. Sure, those fascists don't represent the right, but maybe don't stand so close to them and expect people to believe you are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:07 PM
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I've used this example before. TRP reminds me a lot of a monologue from Craig Furguson about his alcoholism. Long story short, he talks about a time when he planned to kill himself, but instead chose to go out drinking when invited. Alcoholism saved his life. The point here being that just because something gives a or even some positive results doesn't make it positive. Alcoholism has saved lives, and TRP does give some men more success. Doesn't make it good though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:54 PM
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That first part was an example of something that everyone assumes they would make the right decisions about. Nobody says they would support slavery, or the nazis, regardless of circumstance. The point is, just assuming you'll make the good or right choice when the time comes doesn't really add anything, or even say anything about you and what you believe beyond what you like to think of yourself. It was a non sequitur, that's true, but I assumed it was an easily identifiable example to my point.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:42 PM
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yes, humble brag complete. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:37 PM
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hated it. Always felt like they were just about to introduce me to their cult pamphlet. I realize that's a me issue though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:36 PM
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Being from the US, when I lived near Leeds this was weird shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:24 PM
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Maybe you just aren't American, and if so then yeah, you're pretty much stating the obvious for a lot of places. If you are then, then nobody wants to hear your attempt at a humble brag about how you get approached by beautiful women. Or your 'feminist' observation that unattractive women want attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:22 PM
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Oh damn, one of you. The weirdos who use make-up and photoshop jobs as the standard of beauty, and then claim women are lying by wearing make-up to meet the obviously unreal 'standard.' Women should just be as attractive as you want them to be right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:15 PM
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I see the flair, but that really is not what TRP is now. This feels like when republicans try touting how Lincoln freed the slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:08 PM
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And of course you would have been one of the good whites supporting the underground railroad. The fact that everything is framed as ifs isn't great as far as taking you seriously, fyi. I'm not even disagreeing or anything with what you say, just that maybe you have less to offer here than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:59 PM
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most things feminists say have nothing to do with prostitution. see, that implication I mentioned, you accidentally said the quiet part out loud. That because feminists are wrong about one thing they they should be ignored about everything. Because they are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:50 PM
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can you prove its wrong? Its a generalization of behavior of a small group of men. If that's to broad for you to accept, then fine. Demanding proof is just dumb though, it will never convince anyone they are wrong. Especially in regards to social norms, where there is no deterministic proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:04 PM
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...that's very unsatisfying. You were supposed to at least claim you didn't lie about your intent. Still, Guess I have some respect for someone the refuses to explain themselves. Fair play.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:27 PM
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Nothing else. Had a good laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:25 PM
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yeah.....all of that screams "wanting to look smart." Consider this some well intentioned bullying. You sound like an ass when you say things like that. It won't make sense now, but maybe you'll remember later. As consolation, A video you may enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovi7uQbtKas I'm sure we each place the other in the joyless group 'defending' language.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:15 PM
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your the one outraged by random videos on social media. Also, if you're tired of it maybe don't post that as a topic in this sub? what, did you imagine everyone would just say "oh right, your so clever thanks for pointing that out." Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:01 PM
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bro, you were not invited. You don't need to explain what other people mean that can explain themselves. Jesus mate, have some self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:00 PM
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I'm prepared to give this guy more credit than your insanity. he can speak for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:49 PM
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pretty sure you meant this for another comment. I hope. Otherwise you really need to slow down that conversation you are having in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:39 PM
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maybe because its right? Look, I'll just spell it out. The way you worded OP and the title makes the assumption that people that seek more attention need more attention. You didn't title it "Who do you think seeks more attention, males or women? And why?" So when you say you are only concerned with seeking and not "expects it, etc." That's just a fucking lie, your titled the post as who needs it. Arguing the assumption made in your premise is valid, and I did so specifically because you worded t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:37 PM
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What makes it weird is that men, especially men here so consistently say it as something worth pointing out. It becomes suspect when you say 'women' all the time rather than 'people' That is ignoring that you obviously believe some pseudoscience bullshit about how women are programmed biologically. Even ignoring that, just the fact that so many men are intent on specifying women in particular as wanting money makes it suspect as all hell. Any reasonable person would assume there are implications…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:30 PM
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Well now I am interested. Whats your scene that describing making money as resource proliferation is just normal? Also, just lay out for me all the implications of 'resource proliferation' vs 'making money.' Maybe their aren't any, but its got a real "and all the other things" vibe to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:22 PM
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That seems unnecessarily specific. Suspiciously so. As in you have some ulterior motive you are trying to mask with your 'just asking questions' post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:13 PM
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I didn't question your point. I'm not arguing against you specifically to make clear my only goal is to let you know how terrible your wording was. The only reason I can think of for that wording is because you wanted to sound smart. It didn't work, it was just weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:10 PM
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Right, everything on the internet is forever. Certainly young people here remember Chad Vader, and its completely relevant to their experiences and lives. Or maybe just because something is forever doesn't mean its impact and relevance is forever, or even fleeting, or even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:06 PM
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I'll just toss a grenade here to rile up the RP nuts. Men, by far, expect more attention. See, you frame it as 'seek' attention, and in that regard its pretty clear women are seeking attention more. Because they don't assume to already have it. Men assume to have peoples attention. And become whiny little bitches when they realize they don't. That's why women that are nice are just leading men on and being teases or whatever; those men assumed to have the woman's attention when really they were …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:02 PM
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resource proliferation? Mate, maybe you shouldn't be trying to sound smart with big words. I'm not even trying to be mean, but that was terrible. Stick to the basics for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:56 PM
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Its just so weird. I'll just get to the point, your initial premise has women doing the nurturing, but at no point later does anybody do that. Its like your imagining a society that will immediately disappear once the generation dies and saying people are being successful. One of the points made in Children of Men is that no success matters at all without someone there to remember it tomorrow. Do those miners being successful away from home have families? Because if so they are not achieving suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:50 PM
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A porous uncertain thing. What shall we call it? The Wall. that's not 'all' the wall is, its just what people start saying to defend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:44 PM
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Again, give me one single example of someone losing their job over a video showing them glancing at a woman in a gym. Those kind of character assassinations happen because of videos online yes, but not the ones you're talking about. The point is you are absolutely offended that women refuse to admit the difference between harmless glances and real threats, but you are doing the same shit by comparing a gym video, something where a vast majority of the men being 'shamed' don't even know how or wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:39 PM
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how are the videos not harmless? We can get into everything if you want but lets stick with impact for a minute. What tangible negative effect happens to the men in those videos?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:22 PM
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What is this real life socializing that we no longer have access to? It seems like it is all still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:18 PM
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Honestly? I don't think there is anything that can be attributed as being the other genders fault. Its just you and the person you are with on a date with. People always attribute good dates to that person they are with. Do the same thing with bad dates rather than saying "bitches be crazy" or "all men are pigs" or whatever. Actually I don't even care if people say that, everyone needs to vent sometimes. But actually really believing it as a true description of world? Probably why you have so ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:16 PM
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I don't care if its just glances. They know what they are doing and what the impact could be. There is no excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:08 PM
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Great stuff, and I fully support this course of action for you and anyone agreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:07 PM
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Maybe my favorite reddit journey in a long while.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:02 PM
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Yeah, it was a stupid argument, but come on mate. Its pretty fucking rare to see that many likes for anything on PPD. They are not getting revenge on anybody. I suppose you'll say this plays into your psycho argument, but they don't give a fuck about you or the guys in the video. Its just content.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:54 PM
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Your idea doesn't change the answer to that question. You're idea changes things before that. Get it off it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:48 PM
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I resent that you have put me in a position that to defend RP youtubers in some way. My defense is this: they are not some powerful group of influences. They absolutely do not matter, especially in comparison to all the other things that tell women aging makes them hideous monsters that will never get another role on screen except as a literal witch. RIP Carla Gugino.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:10 AM
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​ <image> maybe dick pics don't get women horny? Or apparently any of the other things you think should. This is a you problem mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:31 AM
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Jesus mate. I'm just going to stop you here. 1) Not all women or even most women think the same about cheating in a significantly different way from most men, why did you even make that your base assumption? 2) Any line of logic that will can also result in "well she can't clean her cunt completely so every partner leaves a stain" just isn't a line of logic you want to be associated with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:27 AM
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No, because even in that solution the information is already known, you haven't changed that. Why would I agree to negate all circumstances up to conception? Thats a stupid fucking thing to agree to. In fact, the one thing you say cannot be prevented, the circumstances leading to pregnancy, is the one thing you are trying to exclude from your logic. Really, any good faith argument would say "there is no way to control or prevent the circumstances, so we have to include them in any proposed solut…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:23 AM
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No, it doesn't. Not for most men, just the ones here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:12 AM
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Obviously the ones doing it should get to decide. Nothing "phsyco" about them. *edit* Also, I never said there wasn't. I said the difference is consciously looking away more than once. You disagree. You are wrong, as evidenced even on this sub from the likes my comment got. Deal with it son.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:08 AM
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Well, I should add that I don't necessarily think it needs to be religiously motivated to be influenced by the dichotomy described above. Its more a statement about a persons approach to civic responsibility and the social contract; enforcer or provider. Still, yeah just the nature of American capitalism makes anything meaningfully separate from financial motivation almost impossible. Particularly at scale. Another half-baked idea is that one of the differences between western culture and other …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:55 AM
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Mate you are the one that inserted yourself into the discussion. What even is this? You're offended at being told you're not invited? Too bad snowflake.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:40 AM
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Or nothing. Only assholes think like that. There doesn't need to be an ultimatum to expect people to not be intrusive assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:25 AM
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While I would agree that rape often gets thrown around as the dating convo equivalent of all political arguments ending with "well the nazis..." I just don't see how it is such a big issue. People don't take the nazi argument seriously unless there is an actual reason to bring it up. So why are you taking the rape argument so seriously as something that is pervasive and destructive and needs to be addressed? Also, the fact that so many of your responses to comments amount to "well the problem is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:20 AM
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Nobody wanted this. I asked her to explain her opinion to me. Although we are having that discussion in public, that doesn't mean you were invited to jump in and try and tell her or me why we are wrong. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:06 AM
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Honestly I think that understates the effect of conservative religious beliefs. I had this professor that theorized that the primary difference between conservative and liberal politics (in America) came down to a person's understanding of Jesus. Conservative politics are focused more on Jesus as an enforcer of morals, casting down and condemning the evil and cruel. Liberal politics are focused on Jesus as provider and offering support. Feeding the hungry and embracing outcasts. Obviously there …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:46 AM
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Yup. That tracks. Guess I never really specifically tied the move of white people towards conservative politics and racism as they age to its effects on feminism beyond the usual "oh now you are against abortion huh?" angle. Don't mind me, just the usual lack of creativity in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:32 AM
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lets say yes. You prevent it with universal child care. That way everyone is guaranteed that their children will have the necessary support, and nobody has to decide to have an abortion because of poverty. Would it not be better to prevent people from feeling like they need to have an abortion because they cannot afford to raise a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:16 AM
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This is totally off topic. Why does white feminism have nothing to do with you? I get that it may not address every or even most of your concerns, but surely there is overlap worth supporting? I'll just lay my ignorance bare. Starting from your position that it has nothing to do with you; from a purely utilitarian point of view it seems like white feminism has to have significant success before black or minority feminism can have success. Not saying that's right or just, but supporting white fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:09 AM
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You have your lane, and I have mine. I'm happy to reason with reasonable people. Insane fuckwads however will not be reasoned with. Are you buddies with bottleneck? I'm getting some real appeaser vibes from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:59 AM
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They already know that. The default legal position is that parents have a legal requirement to provide support for their children. That is a 100% certain legal status already.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:41 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:31 AM
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Fair enough. I figured people would be smart enough to realize I meant the guys here arguing for the right to creep on women, but apparently that was too fucking subtle for you to figure out. Maybe that's on me. Being a guy, I obviously didn't intend to include myself, but that failed to be conveyed effectively. Always gotta account for the lowest common denominator right? I specifically was not including men on here arguing against the insane bullshit of OP. The men lacking a sense of nuance ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:21 AM
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I promise even if you insult me on purpose I won't be mad. You get what you give right? Fine, you wore me down. Well done. I'll engage your obvious bait. fetuses are not children. Women retain the right to make medical decisions for themselves during pregnancy. Personal medical decisions are not the same as financial decisions. Once a child is born, neither parent has a right to refuse to provide support.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:15 AM
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Well sure, when you just straight up lie and put random shit in quotations then it will probably seem like you're right. Except I never said 'all men', anywhere on this thread. Are you new to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:05 AM
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I've seen you are not a native English speaker so I'll be quick here. You don't need to be able to definitively prove something in social interactions. That has never been and will never be the standard. Conclusions can be extrapolated from information that can be proven. A paternity test does prove a specific thing, and conclusions can be extrapolated from that information. If after taking a paternity test and proving the child is yours all you can think about is "well that doesn't prove that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:01 AM
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The point at which we consider the effect on children is once men are presupposed to not be financially responsible for children unless they specifically consent. And yes, the rights of children do supersede the rights of parents. It is not necessary that they also supersede the rights of other children. Another bullshit bad faith argument. I just realized something. Are you suddenly angling into "I'm such a great christian look at me" bullshit because I keep saying bad faith? Just to be clear, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:55 AM
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The absolute insanity of calling dudes on PPD a "demographic"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:42 AM
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Hey look! Its trying to human! ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:40 AM
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I would prefer to not have to deal with such blatantly bad faith arguments. I bring up the effects on children, you ask some bullshit about "at conception." A n argument made in good faith would have at least attempted to address the topic of my criticism. Mind you, I'm not saying my comment requires or even deserves a good faith response, but as I said they way you decided to respond was some next level sociopath crap. Like you really can't even conceive of a discussion or topic that does not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:33 AM
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You say it as an idiot that is obviously trying to avoid the topic of the effect on children of this stupid idea. Do you honestly imagine that was clever? Being so hyper specific in how you crafted that nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:16 AM
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Jesus mate. Even when attempting to address the impact on children you still only talk about the parents. This is some straight up sociopath shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:36 AM
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if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck.... Give the antinatalists a chance. You clearly agree with them more than you seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:50 PM
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who the fuck cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:36 PM
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Why are there always these insane posts about paternity that literally fail to mention the impact on children at all? I mean really I know why, it just amazes me that so many guys here are comfortable saying this shit out loud (so to speak). Really, this sniveling fuckwad is terrified of his own shadow and would never say this out loud. I've been reading the slow horses books (and watching the show), and I'm 99% sure every RP account here is an alt for Roddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:34 PM
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Say hello to your new best friends. https://www.reddit.com/r/antinatalism/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:28 PM
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Wow. Bad actors can completely ruin something for someone else without suffering legal consequence? Who could have ever fucking imagined that. not those dumb women complaining about men glancing at them. That's totally reasonable and fine to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:00 PM
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It was a reference to this captainhowdy82 · 3 hr. ago Repeatedly “glancing” at someone is creepy no matter what you call it PrecisionHatOp · 2 hr. agoPurple Pill Man It's only creepy if you are entitled and fragile.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:56 PM
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Stop fucking trying to compare your actions to women's. Its so clearly a "well what about..." mentality. Worry about your own life. And yes, I know many women on this sub do the same thing, and its just as annoying. The difference is that their central point is much more likely to be correct or close to it. You're here trying to defend dudes rights to be creepy. All this bullshit about the definition of stare and nobodies feelings matter and blah blah blah so what? You can look at women whenever…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:32 PM
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I don't think it needs to be encouraged. I mean realistically teenagers are going to do what they decide to, whether that be what they want or what they think they should. That said, telling a kid to go to parties is a far stretch from telling them to do drugs. I just think we need to encourage kids to do things where possibilities exist. Seems like a lot of parents aren't comfortable with kids doing anything they can't control or monitor, and that is just so completely different from when I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:10 PM
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But women posting legal videos social media is something worth bitching about? Maybe just don't watch them, how fucking hard is that to figure out. I can't even count the number of posts I've seen on PPD about this subject. glance vs stare, creepy vs confident, women existing on the internet. These are the most circle jerk topics possible on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:49 PM
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Lets just be real here a moment. The world does not bend to dictionary definitions and distinctions, and neither does normal social interaction. I gave you the information that can help you not be a creepy fuck. Now its on you to use it. Want to ignore it? Fine, no skin off my back. Women will continue to judge you and you will continue to complain ineffectually online. You didn't make this post because of some videos you maybe saw; you posted because you don't like when women tell you or make y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:26 PM
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I bet most people in a relationship would be completely fine with it, both genders. The problem is all the normal assumptions that can be made about a guy with no professional ambition on a date. The fact that men have been expected to work and provide for so long means rejecting that norm becomes abnormal. That makes it something to analyze. Typically that kind of analysis won't end with good conclusions. Not fair, but it is the result of norms we had up till now. I think the only way to addres…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:44 PM
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"If the dude looks away every few seconds, it means, at most, he's checking you out" Staring also includes primarily looking at something. He is primarily looking at the woman, and looking away to, assumedly, "not stare". I realize nuance isn't something guys here seem to understand. So, here is a helpful tip. If you have to consciously look away from a woman more than once, you are probably staring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:13 PM
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Dammit. not knowing what fence-sitter means just takes all wind out of the sails of my comment. Its pretty self explanatory. Not on this side, or that side. Sitting on the fence between. Its generally used to describe a behavior of appeasing. The sort of "lets all just get along and find common ground" stance, even when faced with a position or event clearly wrong. Obviously you could have just looked it up, but I respect the power play there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:27 PM
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What useless drivel. Nobody likes a fence-sitter. For the sake of getting this over with, lets just ignore a. In b I made a statement about the majority of situations. I didn't cherry pick. You are right, friendship and a relationship go hand in hand, which is what makes it so fucking weird that so many guys are comfortable walking away from a friendship as soon at it doesn't lead to more. Honestly I don't even care that some guys do this. Good riddance. What makes posts like this so absurd is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:07 PM
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You stole this from a Dane Cook movie called My best Friend's Girl and it was a shit movie. Still, I lol'd
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:25 PM
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As a general rule if it takes a list of 15 things (your insanity) to try and make an equitable comparison to a list of one (staring in public) then its probably a bad comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:16 PM
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This is almost always a case of guys sabotaging themselves. Lets start with the obvious: most women are not soulless vampires trying to steal your money and time. You are not that rich or interesting. Women are not stupid. Most of the time if a dude is into them and trying to start up something they know, or at least suspect. So the only ways they are going to ignore that is if a) They don't know you very well and haven't had a chance to make a good judgement then you do some crazy nice guy shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 12:57 PM
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lol. Yes of course. looking at differences in school performance between intersex and unisex classrooms the obvious conclusion is oxygen deprivation, something not even included as a variable or relevant to any study ever conducted about school performance, because buildings have openings to the outside world. Where the oxygen is. But sure. Do you think you live on an asteroid in The Expanse?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:27 PM
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I get what his actual point is, which you describe. The thing that makes his comment so weird is that he followed that logic that women just make bad decisions and that's why they have less money to saying that giving women more money from SS is insulting to women because it treats them like they are mentally challenged. Its an extreme change in direction. More generally amiskon always seems to provide the most unhinged opinions on this sub, so asking him to elaborate makes for an entertaining a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:15 PM
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lol. this is fair. that was a typo. Tinfoil hat tirade. Pretty messed up mistake to make here, I'll admit that. Since you asked for it though: beans and grains are the primary sources of protein. Protein is not expensive, meat is. Meat incidentally also increases the risk of heart attacks and high blood pressure. Oxygen and exercise are free. Rooms are designed to fit people, including the half of people that are men. Differences in temperature preference and bed size are not necessities, they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:17 PM
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oh damn. Laying down the law. What a confident and commanding authority figure you are. The sheer lack of self awareness of calling someone a twat while saying "deserve my madness" is just perfect. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:23 PM
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You showed your colors mate, don't be mad at me for having eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:00 PM
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Am I an idiot for thinking it might have been something more reasonable? His response is pretty much this. It always amazes me the lengths some of these dudes will go to to try and appear reasonable and factual, and then when you press them even the tiniest bit they just fucking go off. Like really, you couldn't bear to maintain the facade for another second? I wonder why they have trouble dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:23 PM
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Alright. Well my new question is why are you posting that here? Just lay it out for me, what do you want people to take away from your post? This sub is almost exclusively discussions about gender/sex, so I assume the average reader will read your post in that framing, not in the framing you present in the above comment about SS being unfair to married people. This is sub is primarily for and about single people, so the inclusion of married people being the disadvantaged group seems odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:27 PM
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And their second favorite line of reasoning: State some assumed detail about social dynamics of hunter gatherers from before civilization and writing, then say how it necessarily affects modern dating. Its easy to co-opt the dead. They can't defend themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:15 PM
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I'm going to be polite and ignore that tin-foil hat tirade. I've seen you post before and it always seems reasonable and effectively includes actual data, which is fucking rare here. I've actually avoided commenting on some because there was nothing to say that didn't make wide assumptions about your intent. I guess my question then is do you think that incentivizing being single is a bad thing? The tone suggests you do, but maybe I'm reading into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:03 PM
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What? I have no idea what you are saying mate. Its even more unclear because the study OP references (and his post) mention measures of financial literacy. Is that what you are talking about? Because I didn't mention that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:46 PM
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right.... I mean that demonstrates that women in that category have 40k less then men at retirement over the course of their lifetime, while maintaining similar income from that point on. Given your inclusion of "This is exceptionally relevant to my long-standing point that introduction of social security (and its subsequent reforms)..." you seem to be using this data to argue that SS is unfairly biased against men. My argument is that it is not unfair. Also, 43k is a rounding error? A 15% round…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:42 PM
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I chose it for that reason, since table 3 shows the insane disparity between mean and median income. But fair enough. In every table, in every category before SS+pension men's income is higher than women's, so my point as to why SS provides more to women remains. The safety net is designed to lessen that disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:07 PM
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"Maybe some of these are controversial but if they are then it's a symptom of a sick society. Feel free to engage and offer your thoughts, but don't be mean please " Really? Thinking any of that is controversial is sick but don't be mean? Grow the fuck up. Don't dish it out if you can't take it. For the first two points: this is just a cultural thing. Things be different. There is a lot that can be said about the legacy of third-wave feminism and the general failure of traditional masculinity to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:46 PM
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Table 6—OLS Models of Total Wealth (Financial and Housing) That table shows a consistent trend of single men having nearly twice the full wealth as single women in all but the 2+ past events category. So yeah, when men are measured to have twice the wealth of women, it makes sense for a social safety net to provide twice as much to compensate for the disparity. That is, as you mention in your post, what it is designed to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:31 PM
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This is why I hate when guys try and use psychology or science on here. It always turns into some pseudoscience bullshit to justify their beliefs. Kudos on being aware enough to take the most passive aggressive approach to put forward your beliefs. The 'I'm just asking questions here'
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:54 AM
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lol. It really is the best identifier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:39 AM
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