TheInnocentPotato Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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6	Wikipedia article about child abuse doesn't mention boys' circumcision though having an article about Female genital mutilation. Issues with the foreskin are extremely rare and often can be treated with less extreme procedures than circumcision. The research that shows a reduction in STD's and other infections shows it to statistically be a very small reduction, and there are risks and consequences to circumcision. The most telling thing in my opinion is that most health organizations in the world with statements on circumcision are opposed to circumcising children. The medical consensus is not that it is beneficial.	/r/MensRights	17/04/20 02:16 PM
12	NYC health department advising jewish ritual circumcisers to “use mouthwash” before they suck the blood from the infants penis to reduce the herpes risk. Meanwhile, a prick to the clitoris hood where you dont remove anything is illegal. Why the double standard? Health departments don't make laws and make their reccomendations based on current laws. If something is legal and unhealthy and very unlikely to stop, it makes sense for them to reccomend healthier ways of doing it. But yeah it should be illegal, it's just not the health departments fault.	/r/MensRights	24/02/20 09:05 PM
8	Circumcision is not a Men’s Rights issue. There are plenty of valid arguments against the practice. There are consequences to it being done, for example a reduction in sexual pleasure or an increase in cortisol in developing bodies, or an increased chance of erectile dysfunction to name some. However I think the most compelling argument against it is that most health organizations in the world with statements on circumcision are opposed to cirfcumcising children.	/r/MensRights	06/08/19 01:07 PM
6	Many parents in the United States are complete psychopaths when it comes to routinely circumcising their son. It shows that the medical consensus is overwhelmingly against it. That seems to be a "reason against it" that you asked for in your original comment.	/r/MensRights	09/07/19 09:44 PM
7	Many parents in the United States are complete psychopaths when it comes to routinely circumcising their son. Most health organizations in the world with statements on circumcision are opposed to circumcising children: Swedish Pediatric Society (they outright call for a ban) Royal Dutch Medical Association calls it a violation of human rights, and calls for a "strong policy of deterrence." this policy has been endorsed by several other organizations: The Netherlands Society of General Practitioners, The Netherlands Society of Youth Healthcare Physicians, The Netherlands Association of Paediatric Surgeon…	/r/MensRights	09/07/19 09:29 PM
1	'My son, Alex, killed himself after circumcision' Alex had come to believe that male circumcision should be regarded as "male genital mutilation". Where is the bias? I've provided you with multiple facts to explain my point of view. You're arguing that because it's legal that means there are not many doctors aren't opposed to it, which is a really strange claim to make. If anything I'd argue it's you who have more bias since you willingly dismiss the medical consensus shown to you, but I still try to reason with you.	/r/MensRights	18/04/19 05:02 PM
6	'My son, Alex, killed himself after circumcision' Alex had come to believe that male circumcision should be regarded as "male genital mutilation". Multiple doctors have called for it to be banned? It's not doctors making laws? In Denmark multiple health organizations and both 80-ish% of doctors and 80-ish% of the general population (based on polls) don't think it should be legal. Can find the exact numbers if you really want. Politicians are just scared to ban it.	/r/MensRights	18/04/19 04:29 PM
4	'My son, Alex, killed himself after circumcision' Alex had come to believe that male circumcision should be regarded as "male genital mutilation". "A general agreement" is the definition of consensus. When most health organizations come to the same conclusion, is that not "A general agreement"? Also yes I have copy and pasted it elsewhere, I literally told you before hand that I had responded to you with it before.	/r/MensRights	18/04/19 04:08 PM
2	'My son, Alex, killed himself after circumcision' Alex had come to believe that male circumcision should be regarded as "male genital mutilation". There very much is a medical consensus against it when most health organizations in the world with statements on cirumcision are opposed to it being performed on children. Also there isn't to my knowledge even a study that looks at "life outcomes" and concludes that it's better. Theres a bunch of smaller studies of both the benefits and consequences, but not really an overview. Anyways, here's the list of health organizations, that give a much better view on the medical consensus (I've showed yo…	/r/MensRights	18/04/19 03:31 PM
4	'My son, Alex, killed himself after circumcision' Alex had come to believe that male circumcision should be regarded as "male genital mutilation". So called "intactivists" literally have dozens of health organizations on their side. How is it propaganda? I've seen you comment before and informed you about the actual consensus of health organizations, but this doesn't seem to have changed your mind in anyway. Is there anything at all that can change your mind?	/r/MensRights	18/04/19 12:36 AM
18	Circumcision is the only winnable battle right now in the Mens Rights Movement. We get a win with circumcision then our next battle is that much easier to win. The vast majority of health organizations in the world with statements on circumcision are opposed to it being performed on children. Science is not on the side of pro-cricumcision. Swedish Pediatric Society (they outright call for a ban) Royal Dutch Medical Association calls it a violation of human rights, and calls for a "strong policy of deterrence." this policy has been endorsed by several other organizations: The Netherlands Society of General Practitioners, The Netherlands Society of Youth…	/r/MensRights	09/04/19 04:57 PM
3	Bottom line. If you're still cutting your baby's penis in 2019 you deserve to lose all your friends over it. Hopefully the law will change soon so we can also punish you punitively Nah this one is quite clearly a troll, where as it's quite reasonable to be anti circumcision. Just for example, most health organizations in the world with statements on circumcision are opposed to it being performed on children.	/r/MensRights	05/04/19 05:20 PM
7	UK citizen calls for NSPCC to be defunded after it claims that infant circumcision is not child abuse. There's one consequence that I didn't see the others mention, which is why I wanna respond with it. Circumcision is painful, sometimes it's even done without anesthethics. Even if it is done with anesthethics, the recovery time is still very painful, even for babies. This has been found to increase cortisol (stress and pain hormone) which in general is unhealthy, and high amounts of it increase pain sensitivity.	/r/MensRights	02/03/19 05:11 AM
1	Woman tells man to quit whining over his circumcision. First of all, that site uses extremely simplifying and missleading defintions by WHO. Here is WHO's actual definitions. https://www.who.int/reproductivehealth/topics/fgm/overview/en/ You will see here that, for example, type 1A is less severe than circumcision, and is far more broad than that website says. Secondly, it doesn't source it numbers. I can't find the 80% number, nor any of the other ones. Lastly, don't try with the "you're selfish!" stuff. It's a debate whether or not circumcision sh…	/r/MensRights	10/02/19 02:24 PM
6	Woman tells man to quit whining over his circumcision. The overwhelming amount of FGM is severe to the point it is painful to have sex Citation needed. Even if this is true, which I doubt, the least severe version of FGM, being a pin prick, is still illegal, while circumcision is legal.	/r/MensRights	10/02/19 01:33 PM
6	PSA American Circumcision currently on Netflix, is a must watch. Can you explain why you think you are in the moral right...?	/r/MensRights	06/01/19 06:35 PM
8	I agree mith all MRA standpoints except banning circumcision Most countries have FGM banned, and that isn't a restriction on religious freedom. How religious freedom works in most countries is that a law cannot say "Jews must not perform circumcision". That is a restriction on religious freedom since it specifically targets the religious. A law that says "No one can perform circumcisions" is not.	/r/MensRights	29/12/18 09:53 AM
5	Ban Circumcision Not substantial.	/r/MensRights	10/11/18 03:45 PM
6	Ban Circumcision Alright. Let me post them again. Doctors wanting to ban circumcision on infants: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-considering-banning-circumcision-for-children-under-18s-a7459291.html Most health organisations in the world being against circumcision on infants: https://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/for-professionals/medical-organization-statements/ http://www.cirp.org/library/statements/	/r/MensRights	10/11/18 12:36 PM
4	Ban Circumcision I posted 2 links to show you that most health organisations are against it, and one to show you that there are even doctors who want it to be banned, and you ignored all of it. So yes, yes I have said things backed up by proof.	/r/MensRights	10/11/18 12:32 PM
7	Ban Circumcision Great argument.	/r/MensRights	10/11/18 12:23 PM
5	Ban Circumcision Umm, omg, the World Health Organization is talking about disease transmission. So, they probably aren't talking about infants. Let's look at this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9vrwc2/ban_circumcision/e9ewr60/ Why would you bring it up in a discussion about infants, and say that they support it, if it has nothing to do with infants? Seems pretty missleading. Also you continue to ignore that most health organisations in the world area against it. Why? Can you not face the t…	/r/MensRights	10/11/18 12:10 PM
6	Ban Circumcision I didn't lie, I got the statement from this link: https://www.avert.org/about-hiv-aids/what-hiv-aids HIV and AIDS don't seem to be the same thing. Are there any other claims you challenge? How about that most health organisations in the world are against circumcision on infants? When I said that, you didn't respond. You however keep claiming that circumcision saves lives and other such nonsense. Where are your sources, and why do most doctors in the world disagree? Why are some doctors literally…	/r/MensRights	10/11/18 11:53 AM
2	Ban Circumcision First fucking link if you search hiv and aids on google says this: HIV and AIDS are different. HIV is a virus and AIDS is a syndrome. It's important to understand the difference so you can prevent them. They are different.	/r/MensRights	10/11/18 11:27 AM
11	Ban Circumcision The science is in. Circumcision saves lives. Holyshit. Stop repeating this. It's nonsense. Also you don't even read your own links. The link above said it reduced HIV, you said it reduced aids. Stop pretending you have actually done any research when all you do it spam a link that you haven't even read yourself.	/r/MensRights	10/11/18 11:19 AM
9	Ban Circumcision Then your understanding of FGM is flawed. There are several types of FGM, and the more extreme types are becoming less common. Not all types of FGM make sex undesirable.	/r/MensRights	10/11/18 11:16 AM
8	Ban Circumcision And their source is the 3 african trials that have been critizised greatly for not being reliable. WHO can make mistakes too. It is without a doubt not a 60% reduction. Also most health organisations in the world are against it. The health benefits are not at all as beneficial as you claim, and you conveniently leave out any of the consequences to circumcision. https://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/for-professionals/medical-organization-statements/ http://www.cirp.org/library/statements/	/r/MensRights	10/11/18 11:15 AM
8	So I’m having a child soon.... Just for the record, most health organisations outside of the US do not reccomend circumcision. https://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/for-professionals/medical-organization-statements/	/r/MensRights	14/09/18 05:16 PM