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DiscussionUpbeatInsurance5358/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:10 PM
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DebateUpbeatInsurance5358/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:27 AM
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Isn't this just bisexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:37 PM
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.....and you think "most women" are messing around with each other? You're not going to lesbian bars and nightclubs are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:36 PM
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Well, good for you. Just seems like a ridiculous amount to sacrifice for a faintly shitty fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:49 PM
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What a miserable life this sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:34 PM
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You went back to the same place after being drugged and robbed? Also, those women aren't particularly pleasant are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:00 PM
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That leaves a huge amount of women unchosen because many men are happy just being single. But are the women unhappy with this arrangement?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:58 PM
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"most women" are messing around with each other when drunk, are they? Where are you seeing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:19 AM
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And the women who are straight?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:49 AM
1

I don't know if this is true to the same extent any more. I'm a bi woman and it's far more acceptable to be a gay man than a gay or bi woman. Now a bit man I accept is still very taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:29 AM
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Good lord men will grasp at anything won't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:25 AM
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Do you kiss and make out with other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:19 AM
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Men really don't rely on women for this. Oh yes they do. I think the bigger issue for men is that the dominant authority figures in their lives from a young age are mostly women. I agree on this 100%. Men need to be a much bigger influence in their kids lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:50 PM
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Dude, have you ever met a mental health nurse? A shift with them might open your eyes a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:01 PM
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If we were women, we would do our role without complaining. You can't even do the male role without complaining. You've done nothing but. Modern women are refusing to do their roles and even hitting back at us. Which I think is very alarming as a society No, women are doing all the roles. That's what they're refusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:01 PM
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I don't quite see what reaction you're trying to get, I don't think there's a problem with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:41 PM
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Then there's no problem is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:19 PM
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LOL, that's very true, I can't deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 04:52 PM
2

So...your answer is for everyone to be lonely. At least it's efficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:44 PM
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"That emotional intimacy is part of the monopoly women currently have. There are no products available today that can provide that. Eventually men will invent them of course. We are good at solving problems. There will come the day when you can buy emotional intimacy on a store. My bet is on AI." It never fails to astonish me that men are blaming women for being their emotional base and trying to make robots instead of even thinking of communicating with others about their feelings. Utterly baff…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:22 PM
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People without children don't pay bills, buy food and clothes? Many men already choose not to provide for their children. They already weren't caring for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:18 PM
2

But men can buy replacements for women. Unfortunately, men require the emotional intimacy of sex far more than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:17 PM
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Men absolutely do need to find better ways if coping with the world by finding their own place in it, and by not relying on women to do this for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:14 PM
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This isn't "people". Men still want children. But woman aren't having them because men aren't parenting or even doing their share. Very few men are doing jobs that require that much energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:07 PM
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No, it doesn't. This is all in your own words. You've literally said that women should be doing literally everything apart from earning money, and that man bear no responsibility for anything except earning money. Your own viewpoint screams that you are useless. Women here are actually arguing against this viewpoint, saying men are in fact capable of being real partners, of real, caring fathers, lovers and housekeepers. Of fully rounded human beings. You're saying men can't do this. Why would yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:47 PM
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Then you're useless to any woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:39 PM
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6 months. A Baby only needs their mother's milk for 6 months The motherly affection instinct is way higher than of men. This is untrue. Men want children more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:38 PM
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It's the responsibility of the ones who give birth. And what happens when women stop giving birth because of this attitude? Are you saying men have 0 responsibility within his family except for being a walking wallet? While also complaining that women only see men as a walking wallet?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:37 PM
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This just says you'd rather be a walking wallet than a husband to your wife and a father to your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:36 PM
6

So it's not actually anyone's role?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:27 PM
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Why is it a woman's role? A woman can carry the baby, but you can care for your own child, surely?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:27 PM
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Then why aren't you, as a man looking after your children?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:21 PM
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"You have to be happy with what you have I think. Adopt the lifestyle and live within your means. You shouldn't complain about it. Think about the children. Don't put a financial value on them" So you're happy to stay at home with the children?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:19 PM
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Why should women work for free whilst men wouldn't dream of it? Are you going to work as a familial role?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:19 PM
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Look after your children!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:57 PM
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No, it isn't. It's a completely different role. It's a part of every household regardless of children or not. Oh I don't know, traditionally women have fixed what they can (and I acknowledge your point that there's some things we cannot) and we've gotten someone in for the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:57 PM
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No, there's not very many actual 50/50 relationships. I fully acknowledge that whatever system works for the two people on the relationship they should go with that, but we do have to be realistic in the acknowledgement that 50/50 doesn't happen. It doesn't mean that what's working is wrong - it's working therefore it isn't wrong - but it's also not 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:29 PM
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So.... they're your children, and you're claiming them and you want them to be acknowledged as yours ... but you refuse to take the responsibility of caring for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:27 PM
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Well no, caring for children is caring for them. Providing for a family is providing. Even without children you would need a job, so no part of the man's life is being changed for this to happen. And fixing? I don't know, I fixed everything around the house 🤷‍♀️.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:19 PM
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That's because there isn't many 50/50 relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:13 PM
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👏👏👏👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:11 PM
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Exactly why I find it appalling, when women use such terms to cancel us. It shouldn't be seen as a lowly role. You're not being cancelled, you're being called out for your use of language and your use of women's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 10:43 AM
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So you're acknowledging that this is a job?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 10:09 AM
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You're outsourcing the care of your children. They are your children, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 10:08 AM
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I don't think prisoners would have the luxury to go anywhere they want or eat anything they want. It's a very wrong comparison. If you can't afford to go anywhere or do anything because you can't work because you're spouse won't share the load, is this a choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:51 AM
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It's also a bloody horrible way to describe someone you claim to love and care for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:32 AM
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"Someone has to take care of the kids like you can't outsource that job to someone else" Men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:32 AM
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But you did put a price on the mother's role. You said it's free because she gets to eat and be warm. It's weird how women are selfish for wanting more than the basic human rights that prisoners get, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:24 AM
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"It's definitely not free labour when you are providing them shelter and the bills for every basic need." You've put it in monetary value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:23 AM
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"It's definitely not free labour when you are providing them shelter and the bills for every basic need. I don't like it being capitalised like any other work." How can you go to work if nobody is cooking, cleaning, shopping, caring for your children. You cannot go to work without the foundation in place. They're labour is as essential as yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:22 AM
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Are they choosing to be home, or are they recognising that men will not be doing the share that's needed from them to be part of a partnership?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:20 AM
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No, I'm saying that throughout history most women have worked. They've been cleaners for richer people, seamstresses, washerwomen, wet nurses, nannies, wig making, teacher, etc. Any work done to bring in money is working outside the home, and most of these can be done at home with the children around. And they always have been done by women. Honestly, "bang maid" is such an abnormal, misogynistic statement for the person who provides the foundation for men's lives and enables them to go to work,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:19 AM
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It's like people don't know that women have worked throughout history too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 08:17 AM
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But isn't she working too?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 08:16 AM

.... that's not how lies work. Santa wasn't made real because kids believe in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:02 AM

I used to when younger. I actually did enjoy the company of the men, and the sex was good so I stayed around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:59 AM
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Yeah, it's just what gecko said really 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:16 PM
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Most women can give you their own stories about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:14 PM
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I don't see what's so terrible about wanting a regular sex life. I like having regular sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:16 PM
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If course they do. Paying 20% of your paycheck isn't parenting and you walk away. Or, you look into if you can sign rights and responsibilities away.
/r/MensRights29/04/26 06:07 AM
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By not parenting. Literally walking away.
/r/MensRights28/04/26 03:58 PM
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Yeah, no we know what it is. There's a specific list of charges that tells people what it is. Who is "they"? Because I've never, ever met a woman who thought that regretting sex was rape. Although TBF I've only ever known women regret sex with men who were shit in bed but only because they were shit not because of anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:50 PM
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Why do they need a justification for having consensual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:26 PM
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It depends on what they're lying about. Sometimes yes. It's why rape by deception exists as a charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:26 PM
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If you've lied in order for a person to have sex with you, you haven't gotten permission.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:55 PM
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It's possible to use a person for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:54 PM
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But the father can walk away from it.
/r/MensRights28/04/26 12:26 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:29 AM
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I absolutely agree that women are every bit as visual as men. It's in a different way, from what I've seen for men visuals are better piecemeal, in close up form. For women, we like the whole picture as opposed to a picture of a single body part. I believe it's because men are a potential danger to women, and we have developed strategies to address this like not letting men too close too soon, requiring different levels of intimacy etc. I'm not saying it's necessarily perfect, but it's something…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:30 AM
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Absolutely, and surely the best you can be is what's best for yourself? I know I don't want a partner who's completely based around me, he should have his own life, and care about himself and his own development as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 12:21 PM
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Except that women aren't telling men to do this stuff specifically for them. This is men's interpretation and their advice to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:35 AM
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But that's the point, you can find someone physically attractive without finding them sexually attractive. And really, most men can't envision even acknowledging that they might enjoy looking at another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 09:40 PM
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I'm not the person to apologise to. She doesn't want one, but perhaps you can acknowledge that her experience is different to yours. But really, you don't understand that you can enjoy looking at someone but not want to sleep with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 09:31 PM
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You didn't call someone a thick bitch for understanding something that you don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 09:26 PM
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You're being rude, and you're wrong. Stop digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 09:24 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 09:21 PM
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It is true, the counterculture tends to be more about women's bodies being a tool for them rather than just sexual or even decorative. Obviously looks are always a part but that's natural Again, algorithms 🤷‍♀️.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:36 PM

Men really are obsessed with dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:33 PM
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Because they're brought up indoctrinated into the thought patterns of straight men, believing that men's bodies are unattractive while women's are only sexual in nature. It's so pervasive that there's a counterculture currently happening against this thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:31 PM
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Yes. As ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:22 PM

Well yeah. That comes under the whole "buying consent" bit, not thrilled but I think realistically it's up to the workers themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:07 PM

I'm a bit confused about this. Men absolutely can have all the sex they want. They just have to have a willing woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:01 PM
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And 100% of the men cheating are also partnered up, so odds are they aren't looking for a serious relationship. "Yes. And I deal with it by making sure that what I bring to the table and what she could lose if she cheats on me is better than what any other man interested in her can offer." Yeah, good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:36 PM
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Most men will not because prostitutes don't sell long term exclusivity. Most men who already have a partner/spouse are not looking for long term exclusivity. "Fair. I forgot to mention that I would know if she cheated and she would lose the benefits of the relationship when I find out." But she can find another man, right? Isn't this most of the fear for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:28 PM
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Not all men can cheat because not all men can find a woman interested in them. Of course a man can find a woman interested in fucking him. Cheating is purely sex outside of an agreed boundary within a relationship. A man can fuck anyone interested even if he's paid a sex worker. It's still cheating if it's not agreed upon and not known about. The fact that her life outside a relationship with me would be way worse than her life inside a relationship with me. Nah, that doesn't mean she won't chea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:32 PM
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This doesn't make sense. If all women can cheat, can all men cheat? And if she knows you're the best she can do but that you don't trust her, what's to stop her cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:41 PM
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Men will never understand how little of a threat that actually is 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:06 PM
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Yes he can but the subjects run out much much quicker than they otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:43 PM
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Because I actually like to talk to my partner, and share our lives and conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:12 PM
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He had a choice. He chose to not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:06 AM
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Well, what's the value (for a woman of course)?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 08:15 AM
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Yeah, it is. But if you cared you'd know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:44 AM
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😂 Yes, it was a master stroke of genius to twist the words a man saying "there's no value in it" about raising his children to infer that he doesn't see value in raising his children 😂 We know men see it as pointless, which is why you really can't be bitching about the state of childcare and custody. And you DEFINITELY can't be bitching about your dad not seeing you when you openly acknowledge that he wouldn't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:43 AM
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Yes, most women are straight. I'm really sorry. Also; we don't have pillow fights in our underwear, we did teach each other to kiss and we didn't practice our masturbation in groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:37 PM

Right? I have to work, clean, cook etc and keep the family diary. When I'm not thinking it's 1am and I'm a bottle and a half of wine in, doomscrolling in front of Brooklyn 99 and that's once a month!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:31 AM
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Why is it not 50/50? Is it because of the lifestyle of the child, so they have to be in one place? Is it because they were brought up by the mother, meaning that the court decides that it's best to keep the child with the person they know best when everything is changing? At no point has there been any fights for equal custody in this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:33 PM
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He's not trying to get it back either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:01 PM
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You're proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:00 PM
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I do, and from my experience everyone needs to be needed. Unless obviously there's some form of PDA profile, but on the whole being needed gives people a reason to get up in the morning. Doing your part in a relationship isn't being used, it's being needed and it's genderless. And honestly, if men are leaving their children then there's not really anyone else to blame for their kids being raised the way the woman would raise them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:23 AM
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It's exactly what he said. Right at the beginning he said there's no value in it. And changing the rules is exactly why people need to still be fighting for rights - including being a father. But they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:21 AM
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"Because there is no value in it."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:17 AM
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This has been written like women are actively "puppet masters", pulling strings and watching for things breaking. This sounds exhausting. And very boring. It doesn't sound like someone you'd like, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:17 AM
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Look, you confirmed that men don't see value in raising children with your own complete lack of concern about your ex. I don't actually agree with this btw - from my experience men value parenting when it's on their own terms. But since ths is so rare for parenting to be on the parents terms, very few men would actually practice it. As for your dad, I'm sorry that your parents divorced. But that's often just life and you as the child are stuck in the middle. And honestly, most divorces happen fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:02 AM
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And they are unable to speak with the woman about changing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:50 AM
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Men can't give advice on how to passively detect and react to stuff because things don't happen to us passively. Are you telling me you don't know what you do when you flirt? If a woman wanted specific advice on signs of flirting she'd have to center her question around that. She did. She said she didn't know what it looked like. Honestly, stop making shit up to cover for the complete lack of attention to what was actually being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:50 AM
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Because there is no value in it. And now we know why boys are being raised by grifters. Because their dads don't care. At least you're honest about it. Now don't ever tell us that family court is a problem for men Some men want to do it but women are quick to remind us how much they hate our presence. Some men want to do it but it's long, hard occasionally boring work and you don't get paid. Or breaks.And you get sick a lot. And men don't value it and wonder why women get frustrated with that la…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:34 AM
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Yeah well I guess this is just a common gender difference, when men complain we always want solution, the simpler and more extreme the better. In the OP, the woman is complaining that a) she is a "kissless virgin". She's also complaining that she doesn't know how to flirt. Do you know the very very obvious solution to this that's non predatory? You tell her some signs of flirting. For all of this, it's the single most obvious solution you could have given. But you didn't. Not one man did. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:30 AM
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Ok, so we're back to "men are incapable". 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:24 AM
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Huh. So we're just that smart. .good job we are brainwashing you then, eh? Imagine how much more you'd all have fucked up without it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:16 AM
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Indeed I did, and what I took from it was that 1 of 3 things are happening:- 1) women are magic/extraordinarily clever .2) men are extraordinarily stupid/lazy Or 3) they like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:05 AM
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Because men aren't parenting their children and are leaving it all up to women to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:57 AM
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I know what you're saying. I'm saying that men are obviously happy in this role, otherwise men would be changing the way they live. They would be the primary caregivers. They would stay at home with the kids while the woman goes to work. They would be acting like more than a resource - they would be working on initiative, organisation and support. But all that takes effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:41 AM
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It's interesting that you don't have an answer to the concept of men being happy...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:35 AM
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So you're saying that men are happy being needed by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:32 AM
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And those men both refuse to seek the help they need, or they really do enjoy being needed? Then why aren't they taking over the parenting in order to break this (obviously) hideous cycle?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:28 AM
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So you're saying that men are not only terrible parents but are also incapable of communicating to anyone that they're better parents and then leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:22 AM
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Then why aren't men parenting their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:13 AM
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It really is. Same, there's a legitimate worry for men that a lot of decent men can't talk to a woman because the rest have ruined it for them, and the woman has a reasonable reason to be suspicious. This is not that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:11 AM
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Problem is we run out of actionable solutions once we take "let's see if we're compatible to date" off the table. Except that talking is an actionable solution. Literally, a message occasionally saying how was your day? Is an actionable solution. And moreover, you're not required to provide a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:09 AM

I'm sorry that you can't treat women like humans instead of prey.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:21 PM
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It's frightening that so many men are incapable of simply talking to women without wanting to exploit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:20 PM
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"How would you address the issues of woman expressing weaknesses or loneliness, without predating her?" Do you believe that this is asking women how they like to be treated?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:19 PM
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Well this is just fucking terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:00 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:09 AM
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Can I just point out that literally everything OP has written here essentially says that if a man sees a woman expressing weaknesses or loneliness, he's going to predate the fuck out of her? And that OP is suggesting it's women being selfish for not doing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:09 AM
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And why should women do this with men they don't even know?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:01 AM
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Yeah, I'm not sure you're understanding this....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 07:37 AM
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Because we shouldn't have to be married to expect a man to not abandon his child. Also, marriage isn't actually a great deal for women outside of that bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:10 PM
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Abortion is legal here too, but if your baby is 6 months and the father left after the birth, you're pretty much stuck. It's less a relationship safeguard than an offspring safeguard. If he leaves and you're married, you're still doing all the parenting but at least he's officially responsible for at least a bit of finances. Babies are expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 12:13 PM
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I wear makeup to look like Morticia on Halloween.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:59 AM
1

What does richer have to do with it? And realistically, as socially progressive as people are, as long as women being abandoned with the children by the father it will be a worry for women - consciously or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:55 AM
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I think it's because marriage has both pros and cons. Con - you're married. However, the problem is that you're married. He can't knock you up and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:25 AM
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An entire generation without poor male role models too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:16 AM
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I think this is not the question being asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:21 PM
4

"Asking"? Where did I say asking? I said you have to get consent. It's really easy, you talk first and if they don't answer you leave them alone. How old are you? Just so I know how bad to feel about the fact that this needs explaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:20 PM
4

wtf, you need to get consent to talk? Well yes, otherwise she's not talking to you. Any further and it's harassment. But the difference realistically is whether the woman already wants you to pick her up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:12 PM
5

forced That's your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:10 PM
13

I've seen men fucking a hole in a fence. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:09 PM
2

Consent
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:07 PM
1

"man requires other men, preferably in white coats to declare women as humans" More at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:10 PM

this^
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:25 PM
1

He doesn't have one. Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:13 PM

Ian Brady. Fred West. Horrifyingly awful people, both of whom were as ugly as sin. But they got letters. Because women are people, and people can be just awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:13 PM

Yes, it is the bare minimum. That's the point. I know a lot of men who aren't doing this but are angry that women aren't interested. They aren't understanding that there's no reason for anyone to be interested in a physical relationship with them, male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:22 AM
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Right, so .....by less than a third of the population being extremes on the dating bellcurve. Congratulations Inspector Cluseau, I think you've cracked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 09:32 AM
6

How do you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 09:28 AM

I keep hearing men saying women aren't attracted to the average man, but I keep seeing the average man with a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 09:08 AM

No i am expecting women to not gaslight avg men that they are attracted to them. Can you explain this? I genuinely don't understand what you mean? The gaslighting of avg men needs to stop. Women can never be attracted to them and they need to stop saying they can. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:47 AM

Oh, my kids had some great teachers, most of which are male. I had some great male teachers too. Male role models are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:39 AM

This is what you're worried about? That some women are stupid enough, or sad enough, or lonely enough (remember this whole "women don't get lonely" thing?) to talk to men who are actively BEHIND BARS and they cannot reach them? Talking to serial killers isn't "spreading legs" that's a really stupid stupid idea. Are you expecting justification that women can sleep with who they want, regardless of who it is? Exactly the same as you can?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:38 AM

Make teachers absolutely. I'm all for proper gender balancing in teaching. Red pill can't be legislated within the curriculum though, I'm afraid. It's considered indoctrination.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:34 AM

No, I won't. What I'll mention is the lobbying I did to keep male mental health wards and treatment centres open. Unfortunately we failed in this - because men weren't using them. They were in A&E when they skipped all the treatment and their liver failed or they had attempted suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:33 AM

Yep. I also posted a link from an article about a well recognised brand of people treating multiple types of substance abuse, mental health issues and are noting the massive gap in genders seeking treatment. We can go back to the old chestnut of male suicide if you'd prefer? I mean, men keep telling us how much worse it is for men - so why aren't they seeking help?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:31 AM

Ah. So obviously puberty blockers would also be a part of this conversation, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:27 AM

https://www.priorygroup.com/blog/40-of-men-wont-talk-to-anyone-about-their-mental-health
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:13 AM

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!! LOL, sorry couldn't help that. But seriously, why are you clicking on things that obviously upset you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:12 AM
1

So rightwing men are older? That explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:11 AM

What's HGH?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:10 AM

Yes, look at the rates at which women are helping and treating and caring for themselves in a world that's far more complicated than it used to be. Meanwhile men are still committing suicide rather than seeking even recognising even a bit of weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:00 AM

Except they're not, are they? They're not improving their education, they're actively refusing to care for their mental health and maintaining friendships and some are putting all their identity (and their personality) in their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:53 AM

Women aren't working, caring for their bodies, building and maintaining friendships thus helping their mental health and caring for children and also their parents at a certain point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:13 AM
1

Education is already underfunded. Dedicating limited resources to small percentage of kids is unreasonable. It's a small percentage of kids, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:11 AM
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Absolutely. Go tell the parents of all the football teams in America that the funding for sports has been cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:01 AM

I don't know, it wouldn't surprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:58 AM

Perhaps it's that women are already doing the things men are being asked to do to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:57 AM

prison pen pals" of murderers (the group keeps showing on my Facebook timeline), That's weird. Why does it keep coming up - are you clicking it regularly? If so,..... okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:56 AM

I'm good with a 50/50 split in teachers. It would be interesting to find the men to do it though. I'm not sure leg stretching should be in the curriculum though. Perhaps self care, confidence, how to take care of a house?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:53 AM
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I just compared THE ADVICE. In my opinion, advising men to wear makeup to improve their attractiveness to the opposite gender is the equivalent (EQIVALENT BEING THE ADVICE, NOT THE MEANS) of telling women to grow nice beards to attract men. Except it's not, is it? I mean, makeup isn't exactly the lightening strike of fear, is it? Men have been wearing makeup for thousands of years. It's not a problem. Unless of course you're homophobic or consider makeup feminine and you're misogynistic enough t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:37 PM
1

I'm fairly sure that women don't grow makeup out of their pores....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:31 PM

Realistically, if someone lied about their body to the extent of 10 inches in height, I think some gossip would be expected. Women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:05 PM
11

I'm fairly sure the rape/sex trafficking might have something to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:00 AM
12

Algorithms are a ride, aren't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:37 PM
21

This has nothing to do with it, but it's driving me mad. Nonchalant is one word.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:36 PM
1

Nobody makes themselves permanently more physically attractive, what it does is gives you time to actually connect. I also wasn't talking about women, I was talking about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:32 PM
-1

I agree, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:34 AM
-1

Because we love the men we marry. Shocking concept, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:10 AM
1

Dude...this is what YouTube and tiktok is for. Makeup isn't just hiding blemishes, it's art at times. Look for contouring tutorials.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:18 AM
-2

It's shocking that it's 2026 and men still are refusing the concept of makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:57 AM
1

How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:55 AM
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What bullshit. Men still have to be attractive to the woman to even get a second look. It's just that women have a broader spectrum of what traits they find attractive than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:54 AM
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Well, the last person who slut shamed me was my ex husband as he had his hands around my throat, so yeah, I'm a bit sensitive about slut shaming these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:52 PM
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That's kind of the point this isn't not picky, this is "anyone" level. Would you want to be "anyone"? Like others have said, it’s settle or starve. This is also the point. You're treating women like a resource you will die without, not like a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:03 PM
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Agree on the whole, but I'm still putting this here https://www.google.com/search?q=statistics+of+anorexia+nervosa&oq=statistics+of+anorexia+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBEAAYgAQyCggAEEUYFhgeGDkyBwgBEAAYgAQyCAgCEAAYFhgeMggIAxAAGBYYHjIICAQQABgWGB4yCAgFEAAYFhgeMggIBhAAGBYYHjIICAcQABgWGB4yCAgIEAAYFhgeMggICRAAGBYYHjIICAoQABgWGB4yCAgLEAAYFhgeMggIDBAAGBYYHtIBCDgwODNqMGo3qAIUsAIB8QV79oFyYauVwA&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#lfId=ChxjMe
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:42 AM
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"What's an average decent woman to you?" I just want to point something out in this. You've basically described....a cardboard cutout. One who might be slightly underweight or maybe not, works (most women work). me personally i want to be scared of my mines a little bit Based on this I'm assuming that you want to be smarter than you. (Realistically, most women will generally let you be the smart one until you fuck up the finances. Then you'll be the smart one who doesn't pay the bills any more.)…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:40 AM
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average decent women What's an average decent woman to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:53 AM
1

It's fascinating that acknowledging the realities and the actual murder rate that specifically men are killing women at is being considered hate speech. But not those actions. Interesting, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:48 AM
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It's really fascinating how "fat" is sliding right back to the 80's and early 90's heroin chic in the public awareness. All while anorexia has the highest fatality rate of all mental health disorders, and has for decades. Meanwhile social media is doing its upmost to continue this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:43 AM
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Not really massively relevant, but - you should be having high standards in your dating - otherwise you'll end up with the wrong one, and honestly it can be soul destroying if you pick the really really wrong one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:37 AM
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Men are paid to fight in the military. It's literally a job. Don't try "disingenuous" with me on that pile of self serving garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:26 PM
2

violence And yet men are still covering the murder bit comfortably...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:55 PM
2

1 whole sub eh? Wow, we're really breaking into a male dominated industry there!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:30 PM
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Right, and for the last 5k years, women have worked. We've been farmers, cooks, bakers, we've shoed horses, made and mended clothes, we've knocked up the streets, delivered all sorts of items, churned butter..... What did you think we've been doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:29 PM
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They were secretaries at most, not the lifeline of the corporate workforce. Spoken by a true person who still hasn't figured out who's actually important.... quick hint - who's the most important in the hospital? Also, it's going to be a shock but women have also been cleaners, cooks, seamstresses, journalists.....hell, there's even been the odd police officer! Shocking, I know. Do you live in the 1970's, thinking all women are Lois Lane? It's really odd...... Women will fight and sacrifice thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:27 PM
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Is it? Why? You literally haven't given me one single negative yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:16 PM
4

Which "old world" are you discussing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:49 PM

If women didn’t work in corporate America previously, but do now, how much does that increase the work force by? A) women have always worked in corporate America apart from about 10 years, and even then it was only after marriage. Through economic supply and demand, does that increase supply of labor? By how much? What are downstream effects of this? Couldn't this be solved by men dropping out of the workforce?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:47 PM
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I can't name a negative outcome for me. What would be a negative outcome of women being equal to men do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:44 PM
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Ok. "The actions and behaviors that feminism promoted and took upon our society. Sexual liberation, women in work force, rejection of organized religion, etc" I'm going to assume that you mean how dare women get jobs, have a choice in who they want to fuck, so forth etc etc? So tell me this......why should they be punished for thinking they're humans?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:20 PM
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And yet you didn't give an example of accountability that you're expecting from women. What do you mean by accountability?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:58 PM
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Right, and the downside seems to be that it's pissed men off because men are still killing women very regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:50 PM
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Why? You asked a question, I answered a real, actual issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:47 PM
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Have you looked into these scenarios?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:47 PM
2

The murder of 2 women per week by men who are or have been involved with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:40 PM
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Which actions and behaviours?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:39 PM
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Surely there should be some recognition that women aren't actually killing men, while 2 women per week are still being murdered by men who are or have been close to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:37 PM
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accountability There's that word again. Accountability for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:24 PM
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I agree they probably are. That wasn't the point being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:08 PM
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Nothing wrong with a man learning social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:09 AM
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What you're missing is that different men and women are into different men and women. And attractive males are extremely rare. Said as a man who isn't into men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:51 AM
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And she told you that getting the relationship is the easy part. Which is true. And then she left because you've not listened.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:24 AM
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But here you are angry that you cannot control women's sexuality. Why is this different?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:28 PM
1

Nobody has asked for sympathy. This is just odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:26 PM
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Fuck women and their bullshit standards. Sexual revolution my ass. It was just so they could get their shot at marriage and kids with Chad. ....this doesn't make sense. They had more of a shot at this before the sexual revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:25 PM
1

"need" or "want"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:22 PM
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Destroys potential pussy sources. In laymen's terms women might say no?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:22 PM

Why? There's still lots of places to buy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:31 PM

Nope, not a jab. If women wanting bodily autonomy is that much of an issue, and obviously we know men are down for sex more it makes a lot of sense for you to go to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:18 PM

Why would it make sense for a man with a harem of women? That's really not going to do anything to keep a group alive, is it? If there's just one man, what happens when all the women are pregnant? Can he hunt and care for all of them, protect all of them? No. But 3 men to 1 woman? All those men can care, hunt and protect the pregnancy. 1:1 seems to be a vanishingly small group of humans, especially given our relationship rates. I think realistically we can write that off. And I don't know if mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:14 PM

Not really, women are sex partners. Perhaps you're just better off with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:54 PM

Based on this don't you think the theory that the majority of men are bisexual and men and women would have lived in groups, with perhaps 3-4 women and 10-12 men would be evolutionarily advantageous?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:53 PM

Surely simply going and paying a prostitute is even easier and thus leaving people alone is even easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:52 PM

What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:51 PM

Evolutionary psychology is law. Why would you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:50 PM

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:49 PM
1

So you agree it's on a par?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:30 AM
1

For women to take their clothes off it requires 0 effort except to be naked. Men are paid to do jobs that require 0 effort other than to be strong. They can literally hand bricks to builders, push wheelbarrows of dirt around and put them where they are told. Why is one a legitimate job but the other isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:21 AM
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I think that having an OF account is only empowering if you also reveal your personality, talk about serious topics, the state of the world, politics ... while at the same time posting pictures that are so hot that it's very hard for a guy to withstand the temptation to pay for your account. Why? This is still essentially demanding double from a woman that's demanded of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:18 AM
1

up to 80% of women experiences sexual harassment. From who?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:34 PM
1

What degree is the average woman abused to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:03 AM
1

I'm not sure transitioning is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:33 AM
1

Well, why are you dating women if you don't like them? The answer is generally the same - because you'd like to have a partner if you're life, and you're heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:32 AM
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Yep. They do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:28 AM
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"Since I’m not gay, sexual compatibility is kinda dubious. "
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:19 PM
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Which proves you have no concept of what she actually goes through, since to you it's theoretical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:18 PM
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Who are we talking about here? I mean, he said all of that. You just have to read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:26 PM
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Name another dynamic where things are done how the other person says when the other person says or the relationship is terminated. Why are you dating people who act like this? Is this actually what happens? Why is it getting so extreme that women are actively leaving you because of your housekeeping?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:17 PM
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Your partner isn't your boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:54 AM
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Well done for pointing out that Harvey Weinstein withheld jobs from women who wouldn't sleep with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:25 PM
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Usually a very angry/sulky man 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:22 PM
1

Most men aren't attractive unless we're talking about a gloryhole thing, but then that probably doesn't make enough money. Bullshit. You've literally said earlier that unattractive women can be sex workers. So can unattractive men. It is available to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:33 AM
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It is also a backup that men can turn to
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:32 AM
1

There's something very flawed about equating straight men having gay sex to women doing sex work. That's just not the same. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:31 AM
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So what you're saying is that there's absolute proof of a vested interest for men to be married, while the opposite for women? Don't men live in these houses?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:29 AM
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That backup option is to be ok with being single. Men can also have this option.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:26 AM
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Clearly not. What is it an argument about? Is it in favour of casual sex, not? For who? There's no actual personality or honesty in this at all. It's literally parroted with no insight at all. Is it supposed to be a hypothesis? An opinion with evidence? Is it supposed to be important? If so, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 02:35 PM

Genuine question here - and? What is this actually in aid of? There's no opinions, no discussions, just a load of studies. What was the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 02:09 PM
1

True. The accent is better than the Manchester and the Stockport one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:57 PM
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endless and absolutely unproductive This is the best description. No matter what you say, as a woman you can't possibly know your own mind/body/life/preferences etc. If that’s how people try to debate, or resolve their differences irl then gosh… idk how that can ever lead to a healthy relationship They don't have healthy relationships. Most of them don't have relationships and are angry/wondering why.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:57 PM
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Yeah, my nan, grandad & mum moved down to Cheshire and I went with them. Even the accent is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 12:44 PM
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We can't think like men. I don't mean biologically, I mean societally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 12:07 PM
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Same tbh. It used to be quite enjoyable, that there was some men who were shitty because you're a woman but most were here for a genuine debate. It's definitely not that now. I do find I have to duck out for a few days every so often, the vitriol becomes a bit much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 12:05 PM
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You will just say more bullshit then the avarage men Based on your post, are you able to actually say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 12:03 PM
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But really no. To the extent that you can play a game of "girlfriend or lamp".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:43 AM
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Haha that's fair. I enjoyed the play on words, but I enjoy language, and couldn't bothered thinking of anything funny. Spent some of my childhood in Harpurhey, I'm not allowed to be anything other than a red or I'll disappoint my grandad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:55 AM
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Okie dokie. I like your name.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:27 AM
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I'm going to disagree there. Most women are here to talk, but refuse to be men's emotional football.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:51 AM
2

The fact that it's waved away as "stuff"...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:36 AM
0

The hatred, belittlement and dismissal of women based on their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:36 AM
2

Well yes, yes it is. Congratulations on knowing the basics of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:26 PM
1

2 cases of just and only rape.... riiiiiiiiiight.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:24 PM
1

Fucking hell 🤦‍♀️. No wonder you're asking stupid shit like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:24 PM
1

Why are you making a woman's orgasm about men? Also, not all orgasms are created equally. You're right, clitoral orgasms are much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:55 PM
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I think we all have now, they're not having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:29 PM
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...so it doesn't happen that often.....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:57 PM
0

If this was true you'd have known she was on a bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:44 PM
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There’s no real women. What they do is projecting an image of how they would like to be perceived. What makes a "real" woman? What do you mean project an image of how they would like to be perceived? Isn't this something everyone does? Aren't you doing that right now? When was the last time a user here posted anything about being less than perfect? What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:43 PM
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Also the female doctor stuff Really? This is how you're going to describe a woman being gang raped, battered to death and raped with a metal pipe? "Stuff"? And yet men are still upset women don't believe them when they claim to give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:38 PM
1

Not in a way, explicitly. Do you believe there's no women here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:36 PM
1

Sorry, I'm not following. Are you saying that this whole place is catfish?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:23 PM
2

Not anyone else, you. What do You intend to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:23 PM
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What do you mean "won't let you"? Are women putting you in prison? Force feeding you on hunger strikes? Are they torturing you for daring to take your full paternity leave? Because stuff like paying for the meal is still expected for men even if he’s homeless and she’s a billionaire? Have you thought of not dating that particular woman? Have you thought of having standards of treatment? Have you thought of not going out with a woman who doesn't split the cheque?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:22 PM
1

....but you're here, constantly interacting with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:12 PM

Usually if I see this its because older women doubt the man will be loyal to her and there could be consequences to his actions like another child out of wedlock. This is not it. It's because the woman is very vulnerable, cheating isn't really a major part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:53 PM

It's a tough one. As a woman who was a SAHM and ultimately ended up very vulnerable and in a very difficult situation including multiple forms of abuse, I couldn't in all honesty recommend it. However, I don't understand being angry about it. If it works for them it works and I wish them well!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:52 PM
2

What do you intend to do about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:45 PM
7

Then why aren't men removing their own barriers? What barriers would you particularly want to remove for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:44 PM
4

Naah most men are now ready to do 50/50 and Okie dokie....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:43 PM
1

Then what's the point of you interacting with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:43 PM
1

It depends if you don't want to be a part of it, I suppose 🤷‍♀️. Tbh I don't see why a wallet is involved at all, unless you're literally only good for .... I'm not sure tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:05 PM
11

I'm fairly certain that the whole concept of consent means that sex is optional for absolutely everyone in a relationship. It's pretty terrifying that anyone would think that sex shouldn't be optional since there's already a name for this.... You mentioned you “still” have a high sex drive thereby implying that it might go away at any moment. The question said did the sex drive start high and plummet. But the man still has to uphold his expectations to the fullest right? I don't know what this m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:04 PM
10

You'd best start saving up for a surrogate then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:31 AM
3

And yet the most reliable method of giving a woman an orgasm doesn't involve your penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:23 AM
6

TBF a shocking number of people need to be told this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:22 AM
23

I still have a high sex drive and I've never liked a partner with an entitlement to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:20 AM
2

When exactly were the exams?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:10 AM
21

Except this is literally just recognising compatibility that's somehow still managed to be worded in a misogynist manner. It's ok to say you want a compatible partnership without throwing insults for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:05 AM
16

What about not feeling able to speak out would suggest respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:03 AM
9

What does respect from a woman you are in a relationship look like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:01 AM
8

Except it isn't. It's just bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 04:37 PM
9

Women neg men a lot too. Many women humiliate their bf or husband based on his pens size, his sexual performance, using his vulnerabilities against him, etc But that's not negging. It's not supposed to make the man want to date her. Negging as a "strategy" is supposed to make the other person want to prove themselves if you will. Its not a men or a women issue. Its just people who are insecure, but not just insecure but also have resentment (either towards their partner, her past, her friends, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:59 PM
0

Yeah but that's not pattern recognition that's either autism or paranoia.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:34 AM
0

I genuinely cannot figure out the mindset that leads to this conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:23 AM
2

It also sounds like something those women are now, as opposed to who they were before the kids. It's very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:00 AM
2

Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 08:59 AM
3

Honestly? Competence. Be competent, and do what you say you're going to do. Or be where you say you're going to be. Literally it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 08:58 AM
0

Maybe the women are fucking each other. Got tired of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 08:45 AM
8

I'm unsure what this has to do with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:33 PM

Absolutely! There's usually reasons to leave a relationship, no matter how silly society deems them - if someone is willing to break up a relationship over them, they're obviously important.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:57 PM
1

Are you gestating the foetus?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:14 AM
2

but you didn't so this statement also throws shade as the woman by calling her a liar or a manipulator under the assumption that OP is being honest with his breakdown of events. Where does it say any of that? She's openly saying that OP is omitting information on purpose. Why would that mean that the woman is the liar?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:13 AM
2

Exactly. I found mYy late 30's the grief was more about the older family members passing away, friends moving away or friendships changing structure, jobs, less about romance and more about the passing of time. Weirdly, now in my 40's I've accepted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:10 AM
2

That doesn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:07 AM

And imagine getting into relationship, working hard providing everything and she leaves you because she’s no longer ‘feeling ‘ it, regardless of the kids This isn't "stupid" - this is loneliness. It's isolation. It's feeling trapped and taken for granted and used. Men and women leave for all kinds of reasons that can be classified as stupid or freedom of agency etc. No gender is more innocent than the other in this respect And I haven't said either gender is more innocent of anything. I just peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:05 AM
0

Their child Theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:57 AM
1

Because it's not semantics? The language he's using is painting a picture of someone who may not actually be Miss Haversham. Honestly, it's all sounding rather dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:53 AM
5

You.... don't think hormones have anything to do with bodies? How strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:17 PM
5

Wait, you think women with families, jobs and everything else have a whole 30 minutes? Fucking hell, I'd have killed for 30 minutes! I'm now at the age where my kids have started to disappear upstairs to bedrooms, and I'm absolutely lost! It's been literally decades since I had the No, most women with small children and jobs don't have 30 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:15 PM

Disagree entirely. Plenty of women love their husbands and its extremely delusional to think otherwise. They do yes, usually because they met them under less manipulative circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:02 PM
5

Imagine getting into a relationship, getting married, being pregnant, giving birth, raising babies, running a household and he leaves you because you are no longer thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:26 AM
1

What is the normal default, and is it following the law? That's really weird, I don't understand why people wouldn't want the father involved unless he's unsuitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:51 AM
10

But is it grief? How can it be grief for something that hasn't been experienced?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:47 AM
9

Tbh I don't actually know a single woman who's "crushed" about being single. I know a few who are finding it difficult because of other parts of their lives, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:46 AM
2

How is it baggage?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:43 PM
4

Then men will have to start being useful again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:17 PM
6

Then you haven't got a leg to stand on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:44 AM
9

If you're happy to accept drug addiction and hospitalisation, that's not accepting of flaws - it's active self sabotage and 0 standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 09:35 PM
18

And then men complain that women's standards are too high when those standards are "not a drug addict with a history of hospitalisation".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 09:32 PM
4

The biggest one is what's being done when women aren't around. If you're hearing some questionable comments from your friend, are you pushing back on it? Or are you ignoring it? Are you noticing language being used, attitudes, etc and mentioning them? Are you checking in with friends who have been in a bad place lately? All of these things can help, and it's not just about women. It's about improving men's mental health and their social intimacy. I found most of men's issues stems from the lack …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:48 PM
4

Raped. The word is raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:44 PM
1

He can't, because most men don't often know what "the work" is. Not all etc....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:03 AM
3

So the issue is that women can now choose men the way men have chosen women for milennia, and discovered that human nature isn't very nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:01 AM
1

Oh definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:00 AM
1

So your issue is with frameworks? There's so, so much here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:56 AM
3

"disagreeable" 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:31 AM
1

Probably. However, I would NOT cry misandry and oppression. Why not? Do you not believe that just because your lack of physical strength is your biggest feature (!!!) would you not be worthy of autonomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:30 AM
1

just because they typically have a hierarchy that gives men authority over women Riiiiiiiiiight. I'm not saying I subscribe to their beliefs, just stating that there is no inherent hatred of women in those religious beliefs. Why don't you subscribe to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:26 AM
2

Sucking nipples is not a skill. One can still be bad at sex while good at sucking because any man can do it. I disagree. I've been with plenty of men who do not understand that sucking is supposed to be pleasurable for the owner of the nipples too. They're never good at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:10 AM
1

Can you please start telling men to have better standards about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:07 AM
1

Lol very true!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:46 AM
1

It's a pretty fucking niche category to be angry with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:36 AM
2

Don't you think if you have to narrow it down that much then obviously it's not that universal?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:20 AM
2

But it's still not baggage....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:10 AM
1

So it's not in this conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:58 AM
1

So you haven't given your theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:55 PM
1

No worries, figured 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:52 PM
1

"it's not a wage issue"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:52 PM
1

I'm answering to highlight, see if OP will answer you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:49 PM
1

You also said you don't think it's the reason. I was simply answering that bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:48 PM
0

I disagree she didn't earn an income, and I disagree she had her needs met, since a divorce is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:43 PM
1

Then men should be caring for their children more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:42 PM
1

I haven't said it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:42 PM
2

Got what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:56 PM
1

I'm not sure why she should get more money She shouldn't. His children should. And since the children are with their mother - after all, in a divorce in which the woman was a SAHM the children are definitely better off with their mother since they won't know their father as well - then the mother should be receiving the money on behalf of the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:56 PM
2

It's true, male nurses are often promoted. But this is often because boys are socialised from a young age to believe they are worth more, and as such will negotiate more than women. Girls are taught the absolute opposite of "worth more" and learn negative lessons from asking about it let alone actually negotiating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:49 PM
5

Asuming there is nothing you can do to effect your partner's behavior is a lack of accountability and will result in bad relationships for you. What does this actually mean, on a practical level?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:33 PM
2

I will absolutely deny that fact, I have never met any man that have ever cared about any "social currency", this is 100% a woman's thing. Oh dude, you've met loads of them. Bless you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:56 AM
2

Oh, absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:55 AM
2

So..... you're showing off your object. You still seem to be making the point for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:55 AM
1

...... what do you think this says?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:45 AM
1

Yep and yep. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:52 AM
2

Because men can steal your pretty object....?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:46 AM
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From what I've seen - for men, the single most important thing in the world is the approval of other men. And men unfortunately value women's looks and bodies, and use them as a trophy for other men to approve of, like currency.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:28 AM
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There's zero consequences for most rapists regardless of wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:25 AM
1

Ah, ok. You don't need to debate too much tbh, as while I don't believe that marriage is a punishment for men or a force into monogamy, but I also believe that sex work is legitimate work, and the people who provide it should be employed in a manner similar to any other corporate environment, hopefully meaning a pushback on trafficking and people who want to use their services would be free to - behaviour dependent of course!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:55 AM
0

Do you really believe that no man wants anything other than sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:19 AM
3

That's because it is incoherent. Can you put your thesis into laymen's terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:05 PM
5

Holy Chat GPT batman!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:54 PM
1

Ah ok, cool. I wasn't sure. Cheers 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:47 PM
1

?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:22 PM
2

I don't think it's prudish, it's how you feel 🤷‍♀️. It's completely fair and equal, so it's not unreasonable at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:23 PM
2

Fair enough, do you think the same thing about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:49 PM
5

Agree with the first paragraph - but why would you assume that a woman who wants casual sex is fucked up?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:09 PM
2

Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:56 PM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 10:46 PM
2

Lbs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 07:59 PM
1

What about it would be OCD? What makes it OCD?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 07:58 PM
3

How old were you the first time you were sexually harassed in public?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:07 PM
0

Nope. Stop excusing nonce behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:22 PM
1

So not actually anything concrete, just.... normal stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:45 PM
-2

If every woman is sexualised before adulthood, it's entirely relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 01:51 PM
1

So .... there's not actually anything you can give outside of "bitches be crazy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:02 PM
1

What specific way?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 11:42 AM
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As a parent, I agree. As a woman I recognise that would be lovely but unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:27 PM
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Unfortunately, no it's not. Fundamental Islam on a par with fundamentalist Christianity for the whole "child rape" thing. No need to get so defensive. It was a compliment. You were first getting why people would be upset, now you're just kneejerking. Take a moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:26 PM
1

Hopefully you're anti abrahamic religion in general with regards to this. Don't ruin it you were doing ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:08 PM
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And we know most men don't and wouldn't. We also know that the minority that do is unfortunately much larger than any of us would like to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:07 PM

Nothing. It has absolutely nothing to do with sex with a legal adult. Unfortunately, it has everything to do with the sexualisation of children by society and a portion of men in which fertility doesn't play a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:06 PM

It's not. It just makes them feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 05:24 PM
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Doesn't matter. If you're going to react like one, it's going to be assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 05:23 PM
7

Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 05:22 PM

The only thing I know is that the first time a man displayed a sexual idea about me, I was in my primary school uniform. At a certain point it's not about fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 04:54 PM
2

That's not answering the question. What is the level of OCD in this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 04:35 PM

I agree this is what looking after yourself means. What seems to be the level of OCD within this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 02:37 PM

Explain to me what "looking after yourself" looks like to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 02:06 PM

Which part of "looking after themselves" is OCD?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 12:58 PM

Really? Science says men are incapable of looking after themselves? Although tbh I have another man complaining that he wasn't given a gun as a child, so you might be onto something 😂 Bisexual woman darling - already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:00 AM

More young men should be taking more risks to know that those risks have consequences. You think more young men should be killing themselves unnecessarily? Just because you enable more risky behaviors (for young men) doesn't mean it's stupid. Yes, yes it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:32 AM

Meh. He proves the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 07:13 AM

I gendered it cause men are mostly into those things, even at younger ages. Please tell me how it is stupid? Really? You need to be told that things that people use to kill themselves are stupid things to own regardless of the age? Again, owning a gun or motorcycle/car at a young age is a great example of adult responsibility that would help maturation into adulthood. But hey, it's stupid according to you. Men aren't growing up because mostly shitty mothers (and lesser degree fathers) don't let …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 07:13 AM
2

Herein lies the problem. Those are markers of masculine leaning proclivities you called 'stupid'. Sure dangerous, but not stupid. We are not here to argue if dangerous is stupid. Right, so because it's 'masculine" it's not stupid? Dude, it's stupid. I wanted a job and autonomy, not to play fucking video games at a young age. Instead of being rewarded for showing ambition and drive, I was punished. Maybe I should have just lied on job applications without permission from parents to get job, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 10:00 PM
2

Would you buy your (hypothetical son) a shotgun or a motorcycle if he asked for one (let's say he's 16-18)? Or at the very least, allow him to earn if it that's what he wanted. Why ever would I think to buy anyone anything as stupid as a shotgun or motorcycle? That's not an adult, it's an organ donor. You had the choice to play games. You could have gotten a job anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:00 PM
0

I’ve had ex-partners who couldn’t cook or do certain basic adult tasks, and it’s just as silly to say “girls just can’t grow up” over the fact that I didn’t pick the right woman if it kept happening, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:50 PM
4

So do I.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:47 PM
13

Can we stop blaming women for boys refusing to grow up?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:20 PM
2

Can you confirm if this is agreeing or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:23 AM
6

So what exactly is the point of the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:19 AM
1

I'm not sure how this relates to what was being said? Surely if men aren't mind readers either and they don't know what the reaction is they simply shouldn't approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:18 AM
15

Exactly. I'll take the stress of a workplace and a mortgage thankyou!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:41 PM
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Women's lives are still stressful, but nowhere near as much as it used to be. Autonomy is a wonderful thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:33 PM
1

Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:00 PM

I have no awards but 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:47 AM

Sorry, it was meant to be for dudebro, but still the whole conversation....... WOW 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:46 AM

"forgivable"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:45 AM

I get banned for 3 days for autocorrect but this will be here forever.....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:43 AM
1

Please don't get a partner while you're talking like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:42 AM

Or he'll get lucky and recognise that he had someone literally make a new human and perhaps her pussy wasn't his to bitch about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:41 AM

"forgivable"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:40 AM
3

You'd think it's so obvious but it's also what seems to be happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:31 AM
4

So... You're complaining that you can't be an asshole any more because women won't fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:17 AM
2

Thats the problem. Stop hating men. It doesn't sound like the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:15 AM
4

It's simply don't actually go for absolutely ANYONE. It's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:11 AM
3

But you literally did say that you filter at every level. So yes, you have to filter. Just because you filter more, doesn't mean that you don't at all amongst others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:37 PM
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Right, so what you're saying is that you were lying. You do have to have filters when talking to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:28 PM
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"No we dont. If we are with our friends, we are less uptight. Because if we say literally one thing that our friends dont like, thats not the end of the friendship. But it feels like we lose everything if we say even one thing wrong. " I understand what you're saying. And you're contradicting yourself with each answer. You answered someone saying that everyone filters themselves with the above. You literally say you don't have to filter yourselves and in the same paragraph acknowledge that somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:16 PM
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I'm not. You're saying you can say literally anything that pops into your head. Can you say literally anything, including the above?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:39 PM
12

So you're telling your friends how much you want to fuck their family members etc? You're telling your friends you need a shit? You're telling your friends about the Romans?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:16 PM
1

Your gender is statistically more neurotic What do you mean by "more neurotic"? Genuine question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:30 PM
4

Why do you think that's unequal? Yes, a lot of being a woman physically can be shit. But imagine having the testosterone peaks and troughs that men have ** every day**. I mean, there's actually even less stability there, and being naturally weaker is shit but women have the endurance genes. We simply outlast them. Most of our issues are based on the construction of society, not actually our natures.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:12 PM
3

Lol that's a very good point. I had forgotten about that 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:37 AM
14

What's hypothetical? Because not one single part of that is gendered. All of that is part of being in a relationship and being a parent. All of it. I mean... holding doors open? Really? All of the above duties are part of being an adult in a relationship. If you don't want to do them don't be in a relationship. If you are and you're not doing it then you're caring for an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:55 AM
15

And a guy with a full beard who's throwing a tantrum is still a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:31 AM
11

It's not sexually stimulating to anyone. Men don't like it either - it's why they make sure they're the breadwinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:30 AM
23

Are you saying your spouse literally does nothing? She has no hands? No job? Is she not caring for the children too? Is she not being a good mum? If not,why are you still with her instead of taking the children and caring for them better? Does she do no financial planning? Why are you expecting to have a child you can fuck? It's very strange....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:14 AM
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Only by people with parental issues. Most of us find it creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:12 AM
1

Yep. And the making and distribution of small livestock.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:12 AM
2

What if they don't want one?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:07 AM
7

A wedding ring never protected women from stds.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:50 PM
9

Oh, I don't think they're the most miserable they've ever been. Ever seen the sherry drawer of a housewife in the 50'? Let alone the pill cabinet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:48 PM
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Well, yes they were. Were any of the thousands and thousands of free men committing suicide happy? Would they have been better as servants?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:31 PM
7

Monogamy isn't the problem, husbandry was the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:33 PM
18

Most people are happier out of captivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:32 PM
2

🤷‍♀️ as a woman, I've been literally every name under the sun except that one .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:56 PM
3

But somehow woman are seen as this flawless beings without any taint Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:38 AM
1

When the reality is it depends on what he's saying and how.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:38 AM
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I agree with you tbh. Misogyny is the hatred and disdain of women, and the language around all this stuff matters. . people get so many subjects mixed up, but because they're all spectrum of one issue which realistically is the objectification and dehumanisation of women as a culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:07 AM
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Everything is misogyny, including things mutually exclusive (such as "talking to women" and "not talking to women"). I'm not sure what you mean here?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:43 AM
1

Absolutely. Damn you samwise gamgee.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:23 PM
1

Potatoes. Boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:09 PM
1

What reason and accountability are you looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:00 PM
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if you think a woman using a man on a date for free dinner is robbery Once again, is he aware that she won't sleep with him? Because again, you're back to fully informed consent. there is no cognitive dissonance, I just do not care. Except that you do care, or you wouldn't be making such a big deal of it - especially when pointed out that it's a form of removing consent....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:02 PM
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again you are just twisting what I said, hacking off the ill intentions of the woman and then reframing the question. I asked already if he was aware that she might not sleep with him. If so, what exactly is the problem? very little in life are you fully informed. Certainly not when someone lies to you. anyways, if you think any of this is some kind of a criminal thing, go ahead call the FBI, NSA, CIA, State police. The cognitive dissonance and the change in tone from the beginning is fascinatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:08 PM
1

Ok so you don't actually know what you want women to do - just to stop.... being women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:56 PM
1

Not really no. You haven't highlights anything other than your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:56 PM
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Did I? Because the question you asked was whether the men were being robbed by paying for dinner. lying and removing consent aren't together. you are tying two separate things together. Consent is fully informed - if you've lied they can't give consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:55 PM
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you answered the question already. moving on. So the answer was no? I am talking about the US and as much as a shit hole this country is. I am very well versed in UK laws due to work. They are a dumpster fire. But you're still lying and removing consent, yes? I have been on tinder for 4 years now. no results. now what? Have you tried being a nicer person?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:29 PM
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"if you think that is wrong, you are not mentally well and need mental health treatment. those are the facts." Then gives me the definition of facts, not what was factual about your point....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:27 PM
1

Facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:10 PM
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You don't know, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:10 PM
1

What is women's societal duty? Surely there should be active, practical answers to this question rather than just vague thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:44 PM
1

Then what is women's societal duty?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:19 PM
2

Really? Pointing out that you're doing things wrong is unhealthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:24 PM
2

I'm asking why because there's no obvious reason for your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:14 PM
2

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:43 AM
2

Why do they need therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:45 AM
5

Then what was the point in putting the effort in to comment in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:15 AM
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You're clearly struggling, and you're just parroting stuff you've seen without understanding it. So let's just go with one question and see how we get on, eh? What is societal duty?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:58 PM
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Since you dodged the question if you think a woman using a man on a date for free dinner is robbery I will assume you do not think it is. Is he fully informed and consenting? Sexual assault is a serious crime and all you are doing is watering down the magnitude of it with these ridiculous assertions. I really hate to break it to you, but lying about any information you give to someone in order to have sex with them is indeed considered non consent within the UK legal framework. If you tell someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:57 PM
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This is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:50 PM
5

Writing it as an answer doesn't actually make any of it an answer to the questions. Do you need them written more individually?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:29 PM
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It's fascinating that when the legality of your actions is pointed out you're a lot more defensive and less cavalier.... Since when do women want unsolicited dick pics? You didn't read it all, did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:28 PM
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then stop with your criticisms if you can't help It's not a criticism to suggest active solutions. what kind of question is that? of course I have not, wtf? that is some degenerate shit. Riiiight, so what you're saying is that you've asked about casual sex......then called the app designed for finding casual sex degenerate, but happy to commit sexual assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:00 PM
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This doesn't answer any of the questions above.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:56 PM
1

I can't. You're too old. Most people did this stuff decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:38 PM
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Consent is established as fully informed. By lying, you're actively removing the "fully informed" part, therefore ensuring that consent cannot happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:37 PM
1

Ok 🤷‍♀️. Enjoy your sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:48 PM
1

How old are you again?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:47 PM
1

"I do know that. I know it will take some time to make her believe. I am willing to do that." How long?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:47 PM
1

"most people" is not the general public.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:23 PM
1

It's because you're too old for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:18 PM
1

You're too old for most casual sex. If you can pay for a date, you can pay for a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:17 PM
1

About 6 months to a year perhaps? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:16 PM
1

Why? If you're willing to spend the money on a woman and enabling non consent, surely the money side is better used elsewhere where you actually get what you want without lying to get it? Seems counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:15 PM
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Nah, when first dating you just assume about 50% of what a man is saying is a lie. You just figure out the rest as you go along, you should know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:14 PM
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Fully informed, above board consent isn't an option, but witholding information to ensure that consent is not happening is?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:12 PM
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So it is a valid option, you'd just rather bypass consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:00 PM
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Well, since no man has ever lied to a woman to sleep with her before, I'm sure they'll faint dead away after you've unleashed your ideas about meeting their mothers and going on trips and shopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:00 PM
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Yes it is, when you bring a child into any sotuation. So Which is it? Is it about the child or not? I find it fascinating that you've literally "forgotten" that a woman was involved at all. But you've made my point for me, so thanks for that!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:23 PM
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Right, and the dating intention is usually a fling or just dating to.se where things go.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:21 PM
1

paying for sex is not a valid option. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:18 PM
2

Ah. Found and answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:05 PM
1

LOL bless you. It's not about the child. There's plenty of people who will forget about the child in the situation anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:05 PM
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Because no person in their right mind and experience goes looking for a LTR. You go to look for compatibility and go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:04 PM
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Then you haven't exhausted all avenues.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:03 PM
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All countries will justify male violence somewhere. And what country do you live in that think child abuse/neglect is reasonable because they hide behind religion? Again, all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:01 PM
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You’re underestimating how easy it is for bad people to justify being terrible. An abuser just accuse his wife of cheating, with no evidence, to start beating on her. Given it was my ex husband, I'm really not. I'm pointing out that it's a socially "justifiable" excuse. So yes it is like blaming religion for bad parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:53 PM
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You haven't asked one?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:51 PM
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It's not the only option. It's the only one you want. Exactly the same as our last conversation, sex workers are an option. You also said the FWB isn't an option because you don't want a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:51 PM
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Yep, and using the word "slut" gives him one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:49 PM
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I apologise, I wasn't trying to derail. I was more pointing out that the objectification and abuse doesn't even wait for puberty. However, I'll always accept hugs and send them right back!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:48 PM
3

'I haven't implemented my deception plan yet."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:37 PM
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LOL yeah I know, he's DM'd me a few times. He's also said that he's not doing the "strategy" yet 😂 Imagine calling lying a strategy with a straight face 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:35 PM
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It was a joke, don't worry. That's really not going to be a deception. Nobody would believe you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:33 PM
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Well, as a woman whose husband held her by the throat as she held her toddler for the perceived crime of being a slut, I'd say that it matters a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:32 PM
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But you just said you don't know that lying is the best option because you haven't tried it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:27 PM
3

LOL you've been talking about it for months. Are you dying your hair for this plan? Contacts? Do we need to let Christiano Ronaldo know that his doppelganger is planning on lying to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:26 PM
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Women use flowery language about sex because if she doesn't she might be considered a slut. And as we know, women specifically cannot be both humans and something else - so.if she's a slut she's no longer human and as such can be used and hurt however the wrong man feels like. And we don't know who the wrong man is until it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:25 PM
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It's all still not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:17 PM
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It's obviously not working....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:17 PM
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I was 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:16 PM
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What is societal duty? What do they need to be accountable for? What do they need to be responsible for?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:16 PM
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They can.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:15 PM
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Welcome to the absolute basics of feminism. - people can be really shitty. - women are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:13 PM

I don't actually know many who are? I know many seem.to go by "taller than me". Personally what I've seen is a lot of women quite happy single but being pushed into dating, so they make a lot of ridiculous "standards" that nobody will ever reach but these women can tell their mum/family (realistically, that's who this is about) that they're looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:31 AM
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I'm fairly sure that 1 in 5 women don't deserve to be sexually assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:05 PM
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Hey look, my point has been made! Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:01 AM
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The bit you're missing here is that there's a (large) subsection of men who will not ever believe that a woman is telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:10 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:38 AM
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If you need stimulation to get aroused you are not attracted to him. LTR's lose novelty. The wetness is always part of the honeymoon period, it's why it's called the honeymoon period - you're always ready. After a while the novelty wears off (naturally) and stimulation is required. The attraction is what keeps you wanting to have sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:08 AM
0

So you're denying misogyny on your own post about denying misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:08 PM
1

So your general answer is yes, women are oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:06 PM
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Possibly yeah. But this is still the basic rule of "liking" one another. It's physical absolutely, but it's still liking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:27 PM
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They kind of are, generally you have to like someone to have sex with them, even if it's purely physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:37 PM
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Mine is the opposite. I like hairy bodies. However, my partner shaves, and that's his preference - and because I love him, it's my preference for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:21 AM
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Fucking hell, find a new fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:10 PM
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It means what happens when you do it to the wrong person? Do you think there's never any consequences to being shitty, or do you live in the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:49 PM
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So what happens when you do it to the wrong person?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:37 PM
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Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:33 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:32 PM
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Dude, all.of this is a rant. Not a bit of this is gender based, it's person based. Women are allowed and encouraged to demand anything they want from men and never settle for anything less. Not really, women are encouraged to find someone they like or to be single and be ok with it. Men are sexist and misogynistic for daring to have any demands or expectations from women. Nah, men are fully entitled to do exactly the same as women - either find someone you like or be single and ok with it. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:23 PM
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Wait....so you believe a woman is entitled - for IMAGINING a man? Not even expecting a real one? Overwhelmingly men accept that they are not going to get the 10/10 gorgeous woman who is as good as a porn star, loves to clean and cook, and is a billionaire. So you're saying that men settle, and that it's ok? Why isn't it ok for women to do the same as men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:26 PM
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If she actually genuinely likes a guy and doesn't compare him to a better imaginary idealized partner in her head, and doesn't feel like she deserves better, then she isn't settling. All of this just says that she isn't allowed an imagination. Based on this, are men settling if they're dating a woman who doesn't look like the women in mainstream porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:22 PM
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I am not paying for sex cause that is going to shoot my mental health. Why? You pay for other services, and by the sounds of it you don't actually want to have any real connection outside of sex. I can find time for friends if I can get achieve this but I have also been told this takes at least 10 years to develop. I'm not sure what this means - do you think you can't make friends until you have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:17 PM
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Women have always been expendable to men, they're just upset that women don't have to put up with it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:39 PM

It's getting really weird in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:38 PM
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Yeah, no you didn't. A fuck buddy and a fwb is the same thing. You have to make time, especially if you want to fuck. And to fuck you have to get to know one another slightly first, she has to know you're not dangerous etc. And honestly, if you're this desperate to have sex and absolutely nothing else, a prostitute is your real answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:21 PM
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when you're 37 years old having friends is incredibly difficult, I run my own business on top of my job which saps that out. If having friends is difficult, a fwb is going to be even harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:59 PM
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But this doesn't make sense, or even describe settling? Would you assume a woman is settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:44 AM
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Why do you assume women are settling if they're with someone they like?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:30 AM
0

It's fascinating how many people remove women's agency in dating all while complaining that they don't have any agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:28 AM
1

But do men care about how their behaviour affects their future partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:54 PM
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Elon Musk has 14 children with 4 women. Not fleeced, made choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:14 PM
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Do men care about how their present behaviour affects her future partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:04 AM
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No, you're not. At all. . Cause you don't care. Least of all about that dude you end up with What does it mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:07 AM
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Too slick means liar. Lots of people dump liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:00 AM
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You're not making sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:57 AM
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What? Can you explain more clearly?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:46 AM
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What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:29 AM
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Are we really throwing teenagers into the mix here as well? I mean, we all know and accept that this whole thing isn't normal - but we're putting teens in it too?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:02 AM
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Well, obviously it's causing you enough distress to be feeling this way. Get some therapy, feel better about yourself. I believe in you!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:01 PM
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Dude, you posted 5 hours ago. I just said that you don't sound very happy, and I mean it. As I said, I hope things improve for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:32 PM
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Oh dude...no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:31 PM
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Afraid not. Sympathy happens, and it doesn't sound like you're particularly happy. I hope things improve for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:11 PM
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It's also what they say when they're sorry that some feels this unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:01 PM
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I'm so sorry. This must be a miserable way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:40 AM
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The answer is to get yourself into therapy, which won't solve your problems - but it will give you the tools to help solve them yourself. Which is the whole point of therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:27 AM
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Except that women aren't food...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:00 PM
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It is genderless but tradcon men still do put themselves at an extraordinarily high risk for alimony. That's a choice they make. If they want a woman to support you and not support themselves, don't be surprised when you have to support them. Ask Elon Musk's ex about that. Some women still seek to marry into money just to strip him for resources when the iron is hot enough to strike. I really wouldn't be using Elon Musk as an example of being a good person who was taken for a ride .....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:38 PM

Not completely - we had 2 children in 11 months, and he emotionally walked away while I was pregnant with our second and basically lived as a single man who lived with a woman and 2 babies - including financially - then became physically abusive while she was a toddler. But no, he didn't do anything around the house in answer to the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:44 PM

Is it a friendzone, or has the man decided that friendship is less important than sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:42 PM

This is the answer. The relationship makes for the sex if you work at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:40 PM

No, it's spoken like someone who didn't have sex for the last 3 years of her marriage because sex wasn't the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:39 PM

Partner. People get bored if it's just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:06 PM
0

You've got such a good name. Don't ruin it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:31 PM

So aan wants a woman who will do what he wants, without any thoughts for herself? And he wants a girl? He wants a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:48 PM

Man says "be hot but don't do it the way you want to do it " Better?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:38 PM
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Yea, and it was obviously aimed at a real person that OP was having an argument with. It's specific and it's bringing what was a personal beef out into a public forum. This is very odd behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:37 PM
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It's not an insult, it's advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:35 PM

So overall you're saying men consistently contradict themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:34 PM
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Please put down the phone and go outside. This is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:27 AM
6

Yeah, it's really weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:26 AM
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What a very weirdly specific post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:13 AM
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I have 2 kids. I don't think there's a single non sexist person around when it comes to parenthood, no. I love my kids, but the difference in life changes for mums and dads are markedly different - because society doesn't believe men can parent as well as women. It's sexist as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:00 AM
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Society is made up.of people, partners included.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:12 AM
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It's probably no help, but I just wanted to let you know you're not alone. Hormonal BC caused me severe anxiety and depression for 2 decades, switching and swapping and ending up with eating disorders, antidepressants and spent 20 years trying to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 11:56 PM
1

Tbh It's a bit the pregnancy but the majority is more the societal role expected of motherhood and the lack of parental roles expected of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 11:51 PM
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Because life changes so so massively as the mother that it's unrecognisable. You can be unrecognisable, for a very long time. It's easy to lose yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:58 PM
1

Except that alimony is genderless. And why would they make life so much harder for themselves if the marriage is going well?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:55 PM
1

A payout of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:22 PM
1

Sometimes yes. I certainly sometimes wish I was the father of my kids instead of the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:52 PM
1

What about the guy who doesn't do anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:55 AM
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She also knows that passive people are rarely actually passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:09 PM
1

You're saying no rock song has ever sexualised women? Have you met the Italians?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:53 PM
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And this is proof that you've no idea about people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:10 PM
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Yikes. Your opinion doesn't equal a fact mate, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:48 AM
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As a woman who isn't conventionally attractive, I can understand men's points yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:06 AM
1

Yikes. Raise your bar 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:25 AM
2

So....misery is looking for company?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:24 AM
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Thing is selecting only for assertive men technically increases the risk of these. Passive men by nature are less likely to take action, which includes bad action. Wow, it's painful how wrong this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:23 AM
2

Absolutely yes, quite agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:59 PM
2

What do you personally expand from a woman in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:23 PM
2

No, I'm not massively empathetic. I spend all day listening to people whine without ever doing a fucking thing about it, or worse actively rejecting the help that's offered. It's just stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:21 PM
2

Men give women everything that they think women should want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:19 PM
5

Proof of what? That women set up their own shelters?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:14 PM
2

Then why is the issue with women specifically? No one is the problem. I'm sorry you're lonely, it really is crappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:13 PM
3

And yet the whole point is that they can choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:04 PM
1

Of course it won't, you have to fix the issues yourself. That's the point. Therapy is catered towards people who use it as a tool to help themselves fix their situation. Stop expecting others to do the work for you and it should make for a better outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:51 PM
1

It depends whether men are actually seeking the help they need or not. Based on the statistics, men who insult and emasculate men for seeking help. So men are pretty fucking misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:49 PM
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"They wouldn't have had to be raped and held captive if they actually liked men the same way men liked women✌️ Also ideally everyone should be picky about changable traits from a moral standpoint. If women didn't praise and give away their holes to abusive promiscuous Chads who don't give a shit about them, but were attracted to normal looking men and picked them if they were good people, it would be great. But women are picky about uncontrollable superficial traits instead"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:48 PM
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So they literally like everything about women besides behavior of some of them. They want love, romance and realtionships with women. No, they like and want their bodies. Nothing else. That's not love, it's not romance and it's certainly not a relationship. While misandrists hate men as a whole, and everything related to them And why is this worse than misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:29 PM
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Men are human too (wow) and want to feel empathy, compassion, support and care from others, especially their loved ones and relatives. No way, right? I meant more are you looking for sympathy or answers, help or venting? I did word it badly so I apologise for that. They listened but didn't care lol What does caring look like to you? Just take it on the chin and work harder" type of advice adjusted to every individual case, sometimes with insults I recognise this isn't the point you are making, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:37 PM
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Nobody can give empathy for something they haven't dealt with. Sympathy, yes. Care, yes. Expecting more than someone can give is unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:24 PM
3

So...your issue is that women can choose, and still use the tag "heart of gold"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:23 PM
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It's not related to hate towards any particular group of people Except women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:58 AM
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"Most misogynists don't really hate women" Yes, yes they do. They like the look, the smell, the feel of women - but they don't actually like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:57 AM
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Because women already did it, and have lobbied for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:17 AM
0

Why are you looking for empathy? Did they listen? Give you any solutions? What was the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:46 AM
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Women are insanely hypergamous now, it's hilarious that women had to be FORCED to be with men of their own attractiveness level for the entirety of history😂😂😂 So you're agreeing that women have been raped and held captive by men, and as such men have now proven that women should indeed be "picky "?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:31 AM
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It's impressive that you've managed to ignore millions of years of rape and thousands of years of forced marriage (aka legalised rape).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:20 AM
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Have you asked your mum/sister?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:50 AM
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Dating isn't harder than ever before. Dating is new. This is the thing to remember. Before this, it wasn't dating it was choosing because women didn't have a choice. Women now have a choice. The playing field is completely new for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:49 AM
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Companionship, sex, remembering birthdays etc. Wtf? Remembering birthdays? Why aren't you expecting more from your relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:46 AM
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Homeless and DV shelters are for everyone. Women's shelters are for women. Women have funded the women's shelters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:43 AM
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What's hateful about decentering men? Or women, for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:06 AM
1

Is it "nobody" or "women"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:03 AM

Kind of my point, the equivalent of porn for men is porn for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:07 PM

Fair point, I suppose it's smut rather than romance. Which means that porn is equivalent for porn? I mean, it's still porn it's just the media that's different?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:40 PM

The equivalent of porn for women is generally romance novels. The equivalent of porn for women is porn. Romance novels are porn. And for men, the equivalent of sex toys is flashlights and things like that. So....sex toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:28 PM

This seems very specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:24 PM

You believe placing and standing by boundaries is "forcing"? I mean, you can choose not to date these women yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:28 PM

Except that porn and toys aren't an equivalent. Toys have an equivalent and so does porn, and it's toys and porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:02 PM

if she can't orgasm without toys, does she have a toy addiction? Yeah probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:01 PM

Then don't go out with women who have sex toys, and definitely don't have sex with women who give ultimatums of any kind. However, does it happen often that women say "toys or no sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:00 PM
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LOL no it doesn't. It means it's run by women, not that it's solely women working in it. Most male run companies also have women working in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:51 AM
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Dude, you went from "run by" to "populated by". My company is run by women and populated by all genders. Just like any other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:06 AM
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"I have yet to see a company run by all women" This was the text used. Don't use jumpers for goalposts, too easily moved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:41 AM
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It's not hard to understand, I just think it's bullshit. All venues and events have some unattractive people. All venues and events have some attractive people. That's simply how dating works. If she didn't like the people at them, she simply stays single for longer 🤷‍♀️. I'm not sure what the big issue is with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:14 PM
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And I agree with that, I'm simply pointing out that it's a dating thing. It's literally where people who want to date should go. In this situation, nobody has actually done anything wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:09 PM
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Again, nobody has to learn accountability for things that they haven't done wrong. Once again, what has she done wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:07 PM
1

So....she shouldn't go and try dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:01 PM
1

Again, what responsibility is she required to take when she simply didn't find someone attractive? Is she required to go out with people she doesn't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:59 PM
1

We're talking about someone who specifically didn't like anyone at 9 straight dating events.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:55 PM
1

This feels like you just ran out of answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:54 PM
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This doesn't say anything about clairvoyance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:53 PM
1

About 500. Female CEO, ACEO, Female Senior Team, female Business Support Manager...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:50 PM
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Taking accountability and initiative means analyzing what you're doing wrong in life and asking for honest feedback to achieve the results you want. She didn't do anything wrong, she just didn't find anyone attractive. There's nothing to take accountability for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:09 AM
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Except all she said was she didn't find the men she met attractive. She didn't say that they didn't find her attractive. In some ways I'm sure its relieving but it's quite non productive and toxic I'd say. Talking about your experience is normal. You just done it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:08 AM

I work in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:04 AM

Accountability for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:19 AM
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I keep hearing about this clairvoyance, but never from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:30 PM
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Are you standing in women's windows, watching? Stop it. There's a name for that and a criminal charge or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:29 PM

But most of the complaints here from women are that men aren't improving for them, not that men don't want them. How can they gain self awareness and externalise something that isn't a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:28 PM
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This isn't true at all anymore though. Yes it was years back but nowadays this along with many other fields favor women, especially when it comes to getting jobs in these fields. so they will be the ones to mostly benefit. I'm not talking about Jobs, I'm talking about health and safety. Seat belts don't fit women. Cars are made for men, so women die. Well men have their disease that make life way harder aswell, ones that can affect men early on in life at that. So, its best to just not play the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:39 PM

Not really, the post doesn't say she was complaining that men didn't find her attractive - it says she didn't find them attractive. If she's not bothered why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:58 PM

Who's crying? It sounds like you're more upset than anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:06 PM

Being shitty is being shitty. Blaming your behaviour on other factors is also shitty. You don't have to. Nobody has asked you to. Simply stay away from women, or even better treat them like humans instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:32 PM
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But why isn't it? After all, depression is in the other commenters genetics, the same way autism is in mine. Either wanting to fuck is a desire or it's not. If not, why is it more relevant than other genetic components? And more importantly, why is it an excuse for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:31 PM

Then don't feel bad for them. Just stop being shitty to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:04 PM

Because she isn't? It's weird how many men will add an insult to a woman who isn't attracted to all men. Really, really weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:03 PM

"why are women like this" Spends a full paragraph on what a woman looks like with 0 relevance to the post*
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:01 PM
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Ah. You're that dude who has to have the last word with women. 🐈‍⬛🐈‍⬛🐈‍⬛🐈‍⬛
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:22 PM
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Right, so you're making my point for me. It's not universal since men keep leaving their offspring. So, why do you not believe that another person's feelings or body type (!) is relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:21 PM
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I don't know what that means?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:15 PM
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Ok, continue to treat women as things and I'm sure it'll all work out in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:11 PM
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I think the amount of single mothers suggests that the desire is not to reproduce and as such cannot be considered completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:42 PM
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I said that men are privileged in that most education, healthcare and h&s systems are geared towards them. I didn't mention men doing anything about it, because most men don't even know it exists, let alone do anything about it! Honestly, nobody has blamed men. Acknowledging privilege isn't assigning blame. It's not expecting them to do anything. It's literally just acknowledging that there's things that don't make men's lives harder. As for women doing this about it - we have. The only reason I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:48 AM
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Yet, somehow, it is women who live longer Of course women live longer, we're designed to. We're supposed to help our daughters care for the grandkids. Men seem to be designed to jump off cliffs and things 🤷‍♀️. go to the doctor the most (which does have a positive effect on their health), Yep, and we go back and back and back until we're not told it's just anxiety or our period or to have a baby. and the government funds it more for them Well yes, pregnancy tends to be quite invasive as far as m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:32 AM
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It depends if you're also considering the other 23hours of advertising. There's a reason most people don't do it - we're too lazy, and that's not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:26 AM
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For 60 years the incentives men had to cultivate chivalry, like loyal, supportive femininity, have been erased Good! I don't want to be seen as fragile and breakable and a piece of medical equipment to be treated carefully because I have a natural ability to take your sperm and make another human. I'd like to be seen as another human being who does this as part of a loving, caring and equitable relationship. The rest isn't worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:25 AM
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Mars? You live on mars?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:19 AM
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We stopped saying that to women in abusive relationships decades ago. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:19 AM
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Then perhaps this dude has a point that men need to be less controllable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:18 AM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:18 AM
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❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:32 AM
1

Except that the men don't do work when women are around. So really, women without men are the solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:47 PM
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Did you know women are 73% more likely to die in a car crash? Because the safety equipment for.... Pretty much everything is made for men . https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/15/world/female-car-crash-test-dummy-spc-intl Heart attacks kill twice as many women as breast cancer. Because people don't know the signs of heart disease or attacks in women - because the standard teaching is based on male symptoms? https://www.bhf.org.uk/what-we-do/news-from-the-bhf/news-archive/2019/september/heart-attack-…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:45 PM
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I don't know, I'd say having the entire world having you as the standard, including in safety and healthcare is pretty privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:36 PM
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Plenty isn't most.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:23 PM
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Should it be the expectation? No but No. The answer is "No".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:23 PM
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It means a woman has chosen not to have sex on the first date. I didn't know it was supposed to be such a big deal? If a man is this upset over something this straightforward, he shouldn't be dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:20 PM
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And then men complain that people aren't nice to them....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:55 PM
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1 in a million?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:53 PM
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I agree completely. I didn't mention gender for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:22 PM
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You would if you didn't know
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:58 AM
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Except that you don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:17 AM
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Rapists don't only stick to the grotty pubs....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:16 AM
1

And this is the same as wearing clothes how?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:32 PM
2

You......you needed Google? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:23 AM
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I'm not sure you understand the concept of empathy or compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:55 PM
2

Holy homophobia batman!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:52 PM
1

LOL true. I just preferred Echo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:38 AM
2

...95% of men are/have both. If you're looking for the outliers to prove your rule you're just looking for excuses. It's much easier to say you don't like women than to keep giving excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:07 AM
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They would probably end up making a few women unhappy. Then they'll be alone again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:13 PM
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.....I don't think many women have ever met that many men who don't have a deeper voice. Most men are also taller than us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:04 PM
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Ok. I don't think a woman has ever said to me that he must have a deeper voice than her 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:00 PM
7

What are the right moves?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:55 PM
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"A woman having sex with a man is the manifestation of his ability to get her to do what he wants." So.... women don't like sex but apparently are controlled by attractive men.... but according to this- They can have it with almost anyone other than any given man. There's only a certain few men who can actually have sex with women, who do like sex but don't because women can only have sex with certain men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:53 PM
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But that still doesn't make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:45 PM
10

Of course, why wouldn't I?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:44 PM
1

And now so am I. And I'm finding the Lost Boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:43 PM
2

At which point they aren't incels, get girlfriends, social lives and realise that they're actually really happy with women in their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:40 PM
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Men can't control having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:34 PM
6

You don't think women like sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:33 PM
4

What the hell are you going on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:32 PM
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"Most women never have flings at all, tho. Most women will only have about 5 sex partners in her entire life, and almost all within a relationship." "Most women are butt ugly" What a weird reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:30 PM
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I wouldn't take issue with men having sexual standards within numbers if the man is also practicing what he is looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:28 PM
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I'm a bit confused about the dissonance here?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:19 PM
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Echo and the Bunny men, Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:18 PM
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There probably are, but I'm not sure a person who is raped and keeps the pregnancy is really going to want the acknowledgement of responsibility by the father in this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:47 AM

Because they prefer to listen to men generally, and refuse to listen to women. Apparently we're inscrutable 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:44 PM

They always were curated for the male gaze, since men don't listen to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:06 PM

Wah wah wah "women"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:43 PM
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Primarily because I don't get into intimate relationships with men. Does this mean you don't know the expectations of most women, since you haven't dated most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:18 PM
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Glasses do not subvert the entire point of the test like extra time does. Really? So if you take a person's glasses off them they aren't affected at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:54 PM
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But you don't know men, despite being a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:52 PM
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In a genuine relationship of two adults, generally no. What are you constituting as a genuine relationship? Just a sec - how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:52 PM
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Then how do you know most women's expectations are any different and purely materially motivated?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:24 PM
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Not really. People in genuine relationships arent concerned about who is contributing what. The contributions happen naturally. So there's never any arguments about chores, money, affection? There's no deals about who does what like cooking and washing up? Have you had a LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:23 PM
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Ok, so you expect contributions. Why do you assume other men don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:12 PM
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In genuine relationships this isnt even an issue. Its Of course it is. You're not answering the question. Why not? People who have genuine friendships don't even think in terms of "contributions" to the friendship. Really? So you don't think people contribute in a friendship? You don't make any effort at all to speak to your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:54 AM
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Glasses are not an academic accommodation I already did. Glasses are considered a adjustment, just like braille for blind students or extra time for dyslexia or dyscalculia. It's very relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:52 AM
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And you're not answering the question. What do men expect from women in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:07 AM
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I'll try again - do you expect contributions to your relationships with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:06 AM
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I asked what men expect to contribute. You're upset that women expect men to contribute materially, so I'm asking what men expect women to contribute. There must be something, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:04 AM
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What do you mean what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:02 AM
1

Ok fair enough - do you expect contributions to your relationships with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:00 AM
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No, I understand it. Just to clarify, what do men expect women to contribute?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:00 AM
1

Have you looked?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:57 AM
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"Many women see men as just a means to an end." So you didn't mean anything about using, just that women expect men to contribute?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:54 AM
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"Many women see men as just a means to an end." Are you saying that you don't believe this would have a study attached?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:53 AM
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So you're saying that people aren't expected to contribute in any fashion in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:49 AM
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You made the claim. None of this has been proven in any fashion outside of your head. I'm simply asking for proof of your theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:48 AM
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Who do you think would fund and conduct such a study? Have you looked? Also, i didnt say they only want that, but its one of the main things they look for in a relationship. This would have been studied. Have you found them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:43 AM
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Many people are. It's interesting that you've ignored everything else. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:42 AM
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Well, normal. They looked like men. Some tall, some short (one was 5'3 but average was probably 5'7 or so) fat, thin, dark hair, blonde etc. I spent a few hours talking to them and if I enjoyed their company and found them to be as safe as possible in that situation, we'd leave together.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:38 AM
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Then go and have sex with them, and enjoy yourself ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:32 AM
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Is there something wrong with you? Glasses are not an academic accommodation. Yes, yes they are. They're the single most common reasonable adjustment in the world. How can a person enter an academic examination if they can't see the questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:31 AM
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Yes, it is. Your point seems to be "women are shallow bitches who expect me to contribute". I'm saying everyone is expected to contribute in a relationship in some form or other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:30 AM
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The guys I've had ONS, flings etc with?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:29 AM
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Except she did, over and over. I'm taking it at this point that you're finding this man attractive - why don't you ask her for his details?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:28 AM
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Who tf is saying I'm uncomfortable and embarrassed? You are with your stories. Unless of course you're jealous of those women and want to be with one of your friends? Bisexuality and homosexuality exists and is completely fine too. I'm getting it all from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:27 AM
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What proof do you want? An academic study? Yes. Prove that most women specifically only want a material provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:25 AM
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There's not a person alive who would be with their partner without adding anything to their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:22 AM
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That makes no sense whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:15 AM
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It says. He continued to try to sleep with her again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:15 AM
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The constraints are supposed to test your time and stress management skills. Your ability to read and comprehend instructions in a timely manner is implicitly tested as well. People with glasses aren't given extra time to take tests. People with glasses are enabled to read and comprehend instructions in a timely manner. Should people with glasses not being allowed into the exams?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:14 AM
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They're obviously not that good friends if they're taking such delight in making you this uncomfortable and embarrassed....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:10 AM
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Agreed 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:59 AM
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She didn't continue to, that's the point. Why aren't you reading?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:58 AM
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It's really simple - they're lying. They know how much it affects you and they're winding you up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:56 AM
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Bisexuality exists, and there's A LOT more men in that category than are willing to acknowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:54 AM
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A lot of these "chad" posts are feeling like they've been written for a Hollywood film.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:53 AM
1

Not seeing the letters in the right order is a disability, it doesn't mean they don't know the answer to the question. Would you prefer all people with glasses not being allowed into university since they can't see the words without a reasonable adjustment (glasses)?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:50 AM
1

That's not an answer to the question - are you telling unconsenting people your specifically sexual preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:53 PM
1

Except they haven't. They've said about dating preferences. Just to check, are you telling strangers your sexual preferences without being asked? If so - stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:55 PM
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It does look exhausting to have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:22 PM
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I work for a charity that cares for people with severe physical and learning disabilities. There's a few support workers, but within main offices there's 30 women and one man. It's charity pay and most men leave very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:16 PM
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Usually because the pay isn't as good as inside a larger corporation etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:14 PM
2

But it's not a straw man - you asked why you're not hearing women broadcasting their sexual preferences and behaviours. I'm simply asking why you would expect women to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:06 PM
2

Why do you assume that academic accommodations means that a person is stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:05 PM
5

Providing that many students with accommodations drastically lowers the credibility of degrees from Standford Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:04 PM
7

40% of Stanford undergrads receive disability accommodations. Wouldn't this be things like dyslexia?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 10:09 AM
1

they think that they're ready to deal with being a husband and father when they're really not. This. This is what does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:26 PM
4

What? Are you genuinely expecting women to tell you their intimate thoughts just because you're a bit insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:31 PM
6

So you're expecting women to just.....tell you their most intimate thoughts, feelings and sexual desires? Why would you ever expect that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:23 PM
1

And why haven't you done this already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:09 PM
1

Does it really matter? You don't think women's voices matter? Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:57 PM
8

So wait, are these women broadcasting their sexual preferences? Are they broadcasting how they like to be fucked? Position preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:56 PM
1

The pregnancy isn't unexpected, it is expected Except that it's not a person's natural state, is it? Quick question - based on all of this, and the "I highly doubt" suggests that you haven't ever actually experienced or even spoken to anyone about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:41 PM
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Probably because we're not broadcasting our preferences especially for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:28 PM
1

"Sure, the emphasis is on the traumatic event, an unexpected harm that under normal conditions doesn't happen." By your own agreement, a person's normal condition is not pregnant. By your own definition of traumatic event, childbirth causes harm that under normal conditions doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:28 PM
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Lol, having done it twice after normal pregnancies with no complications, yes I would consider it a traumatic event.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:08 PM
3

Ok, accepted. Given a normal person's condition is not pregnant, the muscles involved in childbirth are under a strain and breakage that is beyond normal usage. Nobody who has given birth is able to get up and run away. As such, each birth causes a 100% injury rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:57 PM
2

Ok, let's get on the same page. I'm looking at this a different way after asking my partner about his view as a man - I recognise I might be biased. Do you consider an injury the result of a traumatic event that will strain or break muscles to the extent that they cannot work the same way after for any length of time, the way a footballer might pull his groin and be taken off the field?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:41 PM
1

Are you saying a broken leg isn't an injury?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:49 PM
1

Which medical conditions are we talking about? Pregnancy. If that's your definition of an injury, then living your life causes an injury. We all eventually get our cells damaged by the environment. Again, it's not being done by the environment. It's being done by a medical condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:03 PM
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Most married men become fat/develop a dadbod, lose hair, and become less sexy because married life requires sacrifices. Except that it's not part of a medical condition is it? That's very much moving the goalpost. Slightly worse isn't equal injury, now you are moving the goalpost. Actually it does - you're left slightly worse because your cells are damaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 12:14 PM
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The point is that every single woman who gives birth will come out of it slightly worse at best. Do you have any state in which this is the case for you as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:15 AM
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Absolutely, I agree but I think we've lost the point of the original post. The post said that women should say they don't want kids but not to hide behind medical reasons and that pregnancy and childbirth really isn't all that anyway. I was semi agreeing with him, but I don't agree with the dismissal of injury that many people (realistically usually men) use with regards to women's bodies and the attitude that women shouldn't care unless it's about how a man might find her attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:09 AM
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No, it's not. It's antinatalist propaganda. Intentional disinformation. No it isn't. It's the truth. There's no woman whose body is exactly the same again after pregnancy and childbirth. This is 100% disinformation. The reason it's medicalized is because the medical cartel is successfully preying upon women's higher neuroticism for money. It's that simple. I'd imagine it's more to do with the mortality rates rather than just "women are crazy". Which is sexist as fuck btw. Most of the world doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:59 AM

So you couldn't actually figure this out, could you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:54 AM
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It means all women will get something. You're only going on moderate to severe issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:51 AM
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Nothing. That's not the way gestational diabetes works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 11:00 PM
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Regardless of the reasons, even if they are completely arbitrary, at the end of the day, it's your body, your choice I absolutely agree. If you don't want children, don't have them and own it. Women should be able to do this (I had my children in my 30's and my 20's I was harassed about having kids). I disagree with the "100% injury rate" take. This is factually true. Pregnancy changes a woman's body at a cellular level. It really is 100% injury rate, whether it be peeing when you laugh or sneez…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:58 PM
2

You will take the 100% chance of side effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:20 PM
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Except that pregnancy and childbirth has a 100% injury rate. Women think it's worth it - and also, bloodlines are never traced via a male lineage. No woman who ever gives birth is ending their genetic lineage. Perhaps we should be recognising that its ok for women to not want children, and that it's certainly ok for women to not want to take part in a process with a 100% injury rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:20 PM
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Being prediabetic from eating like shit for 30 years, and being 50 lbs overweight at 5'0", definitely can result in gestational diabetes Except it's nothing to do with it. It's based on your kidneys and liver function, which unfortunately are being used on the foetus. But of course as a man who's given birth and been given all the information by his midwife you obviously know all about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:20 PM
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None of this has anything to do with how a pregnant progresses in a woman or the damage it does. Soda doesn't cause gestational diabetes, nor does it cause the need for a C Section. Honestly, if you're going to spout shit please pick something else to do it about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 11:12 AM
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statistically significant causes of death for women. Because that’s why we have seatbelts, free screenings, and are trying to improve visibility on nutrition. So what do we do about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:10 PM
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You don't believe 600 women being killed is important?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:01 PM
4

Which adds up to over 600 more women....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:54 PM
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Of course it doesn't, it means effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:51 PM
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As long as a man has rights to his children, he has an obligation to them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:09 AM
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I disagree. I think both genders prioritise attractiveness as the foot in the door. It's just that this is seen as normal for men and bad for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:40 AM
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Do you think prioritising sex is a good way to go into finding a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:39 AM
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No women are saying "no good men left". But women shape the offer, not men. This is also evolutionarily true. Men's traits are shaped by what women choose. If this was true women would be choosing more and men would actually be listening to what women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:38 AM
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❤️❤️❤️❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:36 AM
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I believe men prioritise a woman's attractiveness over everything else, yes. I don't believe nothing else matters, but nothing else matters quite as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:34 AM
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Men dont give really that much fucks who they can fuck like This is absolutely untrue. Men's opinion means much much more to men, and men will bully other men for who they are seeing unrelentingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:32 AM
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" because most women filtered out good relationship traits for things that sexually excites them." You're saying men don't prioritise what they like sexually?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:31 AM
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The expectation of impulsivity and emotionality. The insignificance if sex .......
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:25 AM
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I am not autistic, so I don't know what they do for them Try reading the answers given. None of my friends or I has any emotion that would require venting really I would put money in that this isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:22 AM
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This also seems like a large amount of pressure to put on a person. Why would you expect your partner to single handedly handle your mental health?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:19 AM
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The stats don't support what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:53 AM
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Yes, by the slightly middle aged women who were 18 when they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:51 AM
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Women legitimately just find older men attractive. I think you need to start learning the difference between fantasy and reality. But if a guy is Reasonable attractive ie... not fat, has all his hair, and wears decent clothes and has good hygiene. You've literally just said - once again - the points that make a man attractive. Not older men, men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:51 AM
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It's interesting that women dating the same way as men do is considered "terrible".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:48 AM
3

I remember that women aren't actually cars?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:46 AM
3

What bullshit is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:44 AM
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I don't think you really understand that women aren't objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:43 AM
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women entice men So they sell themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:42 AM
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And I'm saying it's nothing to do with older. It's just attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:42 PM
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moderate looking physical attraction So they were always attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:36 PM
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Yea, and they're usually the same ones who had a lot of success when younger too, since they were attractive when younger as well. This really isn't rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:44 PM
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Well, I keep being told that 1/3 of men in their 20's aren't getting laid, so obviously 2/3rds are. Well yes, the highest voted have spent 30/40 years getting there! Again, you really can't use the "celebrities" as examples of the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:03 PM
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Ehhh even then not that common. Maybe for men in their 30s and women who are older than that. But not for men in their 20s Given about 2/3rds of men in their 20's are having sex, it's.... pretty common. Yes they do. Most of the highest voted attractive men are usually older men Really? You're leaning on George Clooney, James McAvoy (who is my age but I suspect you're including as "older") etc? Be realistic - they're not exactly the norm, are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:55 PM
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Most older men have more resources than young men Which is why most younger women are looking to have sex with younger men rather than relationships. And they actually do have an attraction for older looks No, no they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:35 PM
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No, no they wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:34 PM
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Most of the men here seem remarkably anti-social. I've seen guys post photos of themselves here and they absolutely would get laid in at least several of my social circles How is this saying that sex is a reward for good behaviour?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:41 PM

Because women already create consensual encounters as part of a regular sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:18 AM
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But they aren't high. That's the point. They're just not being met.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:19 AM
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I'd say about 75% of men would be upset if his female partner/spouse etc earned more then him - however I think about 50% would learn to get over it with time. The other 25% would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:09 AM
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Women will give the tall, handsome, and charismatic men sex even if he is a piece of crap deadbeat. "Give"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:00 PM
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Except that doesn't say women's standards are higher just that men aren't meeting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:55 PM

Men have largely stepped up when it comes to house work 😂🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:51 PM
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Because it's a 24 hr a day job, and I don't want that. It seems to be pretty tough work tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:41 PM
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Men can wear makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:57 AM
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Men have no support system because they refuse to put the effort in to make one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:51 PM
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Women absolutely dispises men "under" them rathee height,resources..etc they do NOT like them guys. Not fucking them isn't the same thing as not liking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:02 PM
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Oh it really isn't reactive. It's always been that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:25 PM
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Absolutely. They're free to say what they want, women are free to dislike it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:10 PM
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Except they don't hide them....you can see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:40 PM
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They're manipulated by a society that tells them that they can have it all. We can't have it all. To have it all would require men to move out of the 1950's, and they aren't willing to do that 🤷‍♀️.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:40 PM
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What are the general steps for "emotional labour"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:39 PM
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So.... downvoting is now considered thought regulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:03 AM
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Absolutely not. Unfortunately, a good portion of men definitely care about a woman's money and status - and that it's lower than theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:56 AM
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Oh, this really isn't true. Most men (not all etc) will not want a woman earning more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:55 AM
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And what consequences do those men experience for doing those things? Nothing most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:54 AM
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Therapy is very common for women who have been in abusive relationships. And yes, looking over who we chose and why is a part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:53 AM
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What? How have you managed to bring this scenario? That is extreme. You think this is extreme? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:52 AM
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Then maybe the problem is the phones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:49 AM

Because they wouldn't be this pleasant to a woman they don't find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:47 AM

What a load of cobblers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:45 AM

Right? What a bloody horrible way to view the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:45 AM

Are you denying the dating world is a marketplace and there are men and women with higher sexual market value than others? Yes. It's all subjective. Each and every person are subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:44 AM

No such thing as high or low value people. It's just a stupid concept designed by people who don't like people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:44 AM
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So.....you acknowledge that there's no such thing as objectively attractive, regardless of data. You can't say "well developed breasts" because it means something completely different to you than it does to me. "Normal"? What's normal? But what i really want is for her to be genuinely attracted to me in a physical way. This is the only thing that could even be approached objectively. And even that's fairly subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:42 PM
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Your family is proposing to you? You and they do know that's illegal, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:24 PM
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What type of face? What type of body is "good"? What type of hair? Is it colour? Length? Thickness? Type? Well, I'm bisexual so for men - I prefer lighter colour eyes, preferably long eyelashes. I like a big nose! A smile that reaches the eyes. I don't have many preferences for men's body type but I don't like muscled men, I prefer slender or toned. I have no height or skin colour preference. For women - I'm a sucker for dark, thick hair. I like a curvy woman and again, no height preference. I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:19 PM
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I agree. It's also something most people say until it happens 🤷‍♀️.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:32 AM
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Like what? What in particular draws you in? Good hair? Eyes? Smile? Height?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:43 AM
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Yes. Morally questionable, generally assholish etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:40 AM
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Right, so you're not actually going on human perception you're using a computer - that has absolutely no comprehension of what would make a person attractive? What in particular makes a person attractive to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:48 AM
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" Sometimes a person is attractive until they open their mouths."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:47 AM
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And what does a 5 or 6 look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:31 AM
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But what she said was true, it's not a justification. Sometimes a person is attractive until they open their mouths.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:31 AM
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But you just said she is justifying it. Why does she have to justify it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:20 AM
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But how can you tell? What does average look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:19 AM
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Excuses for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:18 AM
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Of absolutely. Women's intuition is just gut feeling, same as men's - sometimes it's right, sometimes it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:17 AM
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Why does anyone have to justify a lack of attraction to anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:01 AM
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Exactly, very few men, because very few men are actually attractive. Are you attracted to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:56 AM
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No, I'm saying that societal norms at the time were that trousers were for men, and that apparently it was bad for women to wear them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:03 PM

No, the real one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:06 AM

I'm assuming we're ignoring that pesky violent crime rate, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:25 AM
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Whichever one has the power pack for my phone, so I can use maps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:22 AM
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This is really bugging you, isn't it? Is this why you've just decided to sling shit instead, because you cannot say I'm wrong? Is this really such a problem for you, that not everything can be measured by "data"? When did buying shit become the sole measurement of dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:31 AM
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Absolutely, and nobody moves without data research and apps.... honestly, if it hasn't been written down on the Internet it isn't worth knowing is it? Jesus Christ. This is the biggest library since Alexandria caught fire and this is what you're using it for... I'm not on apps if that's what you're talking about 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:18 AM
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Because she's a woman acting like a man. It's no different to when Katherine Hepburn first wore trousers. Edit; not saying it's right, I'm saying it's seen as worse when women do it. She's absolutely a predator, but apparently it's normal to be a predator if you're a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:12 AM
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Yeah, because That's how chasing is done. Solely with money. And obviously it's already reported to other men 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:11 AM
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Are you living in an 80's film?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:10 AM
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Carry on, yes. There's no guarantee any of us are who we say. I might actually be lying - fun isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:40 AM
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Men will no longer chase women, no longer buy them present or anything once they can get what they want predictably by paying a fixed sum of money. It's like you've never been with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:33 AM
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Also just pointing out that a person who works in the sex industry doesn't have to be hypersexual. Realistically, it's also a specifically male fantasy that many many female sex workers indulge men with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:32 AM
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Are we really still pretending that most of those comments are from women? Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:28 AM
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Who's really expecting the purge?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:58 AM
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Yikes. Why would any woman want to be this guy's friend?!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:54 AM
3

"Sounds like women entering the workforce never should have happened in the first place." ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 12:10 PM
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No they wouldn't. They would need to cover about 60%. They're just stuck in a mindset that says women shouldn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:25 AM
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But surely if a man can't cover the wage, women should be working as well? Do you think men have always been the sole breadwinners?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:14 AM
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I mean why instead of working?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:55 AM
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Ok let's try this again. What behaviours - stop using other people's word ffs and use your own! What behaviours? How is someone acting? Tell me some scenarios in which your exes would make you feel bad and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:59 AM
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Can you try and be a bit more efficient in your use of language instead of running it all through AI? Just say what accountability you want and what behaviour is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:52 AM
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I'm a bi woman. Pick better women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:49 AM
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Pick better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:45 AM

Because it's not all about them. There's some sacrifices people have to make for society at large. Are men making these sacrifices?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:44 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:43 AM

Women have always worked. The 50's and 60's were the blip.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:42 AM
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If she got fired, why were you feeling like you harassied her?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:54 AM
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Large portions of modern women are allergic to any form of accountability. Accountability for what? Any feedback women might receive must be due to some other reason than their own behavior. What is this behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:52 AM
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She is if she has to stay home with the children. Is the man dropping hours to care?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:45 AM
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You stop the demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:42 AM
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Date better women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:05 PM
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Thankyou for proving my point for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:55 AM
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I think it's interesting that you believe she should be accountable to a man on the internet that she doesn't know and will never meet instead of the man she's in the romantic relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:34 AM
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I can't no, since I haven't done so. Unfortunately the hive mind is now closed down for Xmas, so you'll have to ask again after Jan.5th.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:58 PM
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Before what was available? What the fuck are you talking about? Women's empowerment was a byproduct of second wave feminism, and had absolutely nothing to do with the first wave which is what you're talking about for some reason...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:01 PM
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It depends on how much of the childcare the father has been doing before the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:51 AM
2

What did they do wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:50 AM
1

So ... penicillin was discovered in 1928. Feminist first wave was between 1848-1920. Neither the contraceptive pill or penicillin (!) had anything to do with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:39 AM
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He has a choice to remain friends or not. If he's old enough to have a crush, he's old enough to look after himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:23 AM
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It's saying that men are disadvantaged because women choose to fuck who they actually want to fuck or to learn to care for themselves and the people around them, creating a supportive environment that they can be single and not alone. Perhaps men could learn from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:22 AM
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It's really simple. Men have to stop fucking women they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:05 AM
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Wait, so you're upset if women want to have sex but are upset if they don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:05 AM
2

Penicillin was discovered in 1928....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:01 AM
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Did you really say that feminism only took root in the 1960's?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 06:55 AM
1

Stop what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:39 PM
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When you are on a date, what do you do? What do you yourself talk about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:03 AM
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Supply?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:54 AM
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Men can make their own decisions about the women they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:31 AM
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....so the problem is that men don't have any standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:31 AM

They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:33 PM

I don't think women have ever wanted men the way men want women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:46 PM
1

They've told you they want to be raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:36 PM
1

So they haven't told you they wanted to be violated?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:36 PM
2

"Girls say that shit too about hot male predators, they just keep it quiet. Usually." You've then gone on to say that women have told you these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:17 PM
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Which women think all men want to rape them? I also want to point out that you've spent this whole conversation saying that all men want to rape women but don't....?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:16 PM
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I don't think women are more moral either. But it's still not what is being said here. Are you saying that your female friends tell you they want to be assaulted by attractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:08 PM
2

But that's not what's being said here.... you're saying your female friends tell you they want to be raped by someone attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:07 PM
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Trusted friends? Do people say this to you? If so, why aren't you telling them you don't want to hear it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:02 PM
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If it's only happening with trusted friends, how do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:14 AM

I think it's more likely that those men have raped someone if they think all men want to rape women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:20 AM
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And as such, I'm chuffed that women who commit violent crimes are being incarcerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 11:36 PM
5

Are you saying you're incapable of not committing rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 11:28 PM
10

Where did you get 50% and 5% from?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 11:28 PM

Why are you acting like this is a game, or a competition instead of actions that affect people's lives, male and female? It's smelling suspiciously like you don't actually care about this just that you can use rape victims - male and female - for politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 11:27 PM
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Is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:30 PM
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Are you saying men can't help but rape? Do you need a trip to the police station?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:30 PM
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Can you link some actual examples that haven't been brought by AI or reddit ? Actually there's like a whole subreddit about Uber men who record all their interactions and still get accused of sexual assault and they have no recourse for it. Why don't they have recourse? I didn't even mention like a month ago where there's Indian man was accused of kidnapping and it was on camera showing that he did not. So he had recourse? There are a lot of cases like this Is it a heavy percentage now but is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 07:33 PM
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Because it can't be proven beyond reasonable doubt on the whole, apart from the odd exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:19 PM
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I'm chuffed that women who commit violent crimes are being incarcerated. Why wouldn't I?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:18 PM
1

My favorite bit is the tantrum you're throwing...😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:45 PM
1

So..... you're acknowledging that the biggest active danger to a woman is a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:34 PM
1

So ...yes, men are the biggest active danger to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:02 PM
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Do you think rape is a consequence of a decision?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:01 PM
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Absolutely, and as such they are an asshole who should also go to prison. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:56 PM
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Rape is not a "consequence". It is an action that someone has chosen to inflict on another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:25 PM
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Unironically this is garbage behavio It's supposed to be off putting to men. Because men can be such a pain that this is intentional. We're here to talk to the one girl, not convince 7 other girls we're good enough for you too. Piss off and mind your business. Nobody asked you to come over and convince anyone. That's the entire fucking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:23 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:21 PM
3

Right, so....men are the biggest active danger to women, since the rest are accidental?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:03 AM
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These places are very dark and dangerous. These places are dark. And where do you think a lot of them met these partner House parties, work, set up by friends? It’s ironic how women pick the men who can be the most dangerous as their partner and protector. It's ironic that men are still the biggest danger to women, but offended that women acknowledge that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:46 PM
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Absolutely true, and thank goodness for it. All that crap about moral goodness and nurturing ensured women couldn't be themselves. Now women can be as human as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:37 AM
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Because you haven't actually answered the points.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:57 PM
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That's not an answer. You're claiming that men cannot use makeup because....men? Why not, other than "because it's effeminate"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:56 PM
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Becasue its not used as a everyday make up but put on to not make you face shinny under tv lights. Cmon its not that hard. So.... makeup? What do you think normal makeup does? It hides shiny spots. You're right, it's not that hard. Why do you americans get so fucking weird when it comes to gender. I'm English. You're being fucking weird about it. You're main thing so far is "ladies use it so men can't". Women and men have the same skin. You absolutely can use makeup. You're attaching it to a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:08 PM
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It's quite weird, but good tingly!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:05 PM
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Then why are men wearing it if it doesn't look good? to look better the fact that you are a man with makeup on would make you less atractive in the eyes of others Others, or are you feeling feminine and uncomfortable with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:48 PM
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So there's nothing actually stopping men from using it everyday?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:11 PM
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So.... make-up isn't being used to make up the face and hide blemishes, etc? It's being used exactly the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:15 AM
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They would 1000% prefer to use male birth control if it meant they could freely fuck without condoms and not have to worry about someone coming after them for child support or something. Except that if they don't care enough now, what makes you think they'll be happy to get an injection in the testicles?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:13 AM
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Don't you think this is more a problem that women have with men's behavior rather than a material issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:49 AM
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But they don't want the help, they want to complain! Why aren't you understanding?/S
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:46 AM
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No, it's the same makeup. It just costs a fuck lot more and they have a professional to apply it. Practice practice practice! A bit of contouring with some (colour matched) foundation will change lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:44 AM
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..... you're saying men are incapable of grooming and dressing themselves correctly? WOW. And they say we think the bar is low....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:42 AM
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Well yes, I ended up losing my job as I couldn't work enough hours, and ended up with several jobs trying to work out how to earn enough for 2 toddlers via 3 cleaning jobs and a nursery while he slept ready for a night job. I divorced him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:07 AM
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Having been in the situation of being the higher earner, then ending up in debt thanks to being really stupid and having children with a man who it turns out didn't care that my career was doing better and refusing to take care of his children, I'm going to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 10:38 PM
2

Which is kind of the point being made.....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 10:36 PM
10

Because those men also walk away?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:09 PM
10

I'm not mad about it. I just think it would be nice if men would factor in women's provisions in more than just chores, childcare and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:50 PM
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And the man is required to sign it. If he doesn't sign it it's not complete.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 10:23 PM
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"Near"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 10:22 PM
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I'm confused here It's true it's just an objective fact. And after a certain time it is near impossible that take your name off a birth certificate. It's not a fact. And you can get your name taken off, it just requires the child to get a new BC. All of what you're suggesting is already part of the system and is doable. What you can't do is force tax payers to pay for your insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:21 PM
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window otherwise. What I am advocating for it makes it fair. The current reality makes it so we don't even have access to put down our name ourselves. Really? When did they make locks on the registry office doors that can only be opened by a vagina? Men absolutely can refuse to put their name on it. A BC requires a signature. Men can refuse to sign it. It's not legal without the signature.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:19 PM
3

Are you sure? You didn't post it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:16 PM
4

Are you sure? You didn't post this
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:16 PM
1

Then why would I not marry someone who can't be the best when there's so many nuances within the sexual experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:30 PM
1

Which part of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:56 PM
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Unfortunately, women have done it practically alone, just for the most basic of rights - but we're past rights now and we're into changing the culture, which is a much bigger issue. And honestly, having been a walkaway wife women do actually need a man to get off his ass without being asked...all this mental load stuff? Because of men's refusal to acknowledge their part in the household. Raise a generation of boys who recognise that they're part of it instead of the head of it and you have a bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:53 PM

Except that different people are good at different things. You'll be the best at one thing, but someone else will have been better at something else. It's how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:21 PM
3

Nothing is made up. The concept is offensive by default, no additional conclusions have to be drawn. Why? I mean, FMK is a thing that men have been doing for a very, very long time to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:07 AM
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Not alone. Women filing some guys into the "casually fuckable" category but others into the "relationships only ever" category also reflects poorly on them. Doesn't matter. This is a problem that is being caused by men. It's fascinating that you're trying to minimise the issue here - that men are lying to women and causing more and more reasons for women to mistrust men - using whataboutism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:03 AM
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I think this is on purpose. That way they get to stay angry at women for being lied to, and they don't need to get the help they obviously need.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:59 AM
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What a sad and angry way to view something so lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:58 AM
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As the “oppressive gender” men are just not allowed to shape the narrative in a way women can. I disagree. Men are required to shape the narrative just as much as women. After all, men's lack of updates to their own gender roles is causing quite a big issue within relationships, and it is causing some pretty distressing levels of "walkaway wife syndrome".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:34 PM
0

I suppose it might not be. Can I ask what decade you are in, 20's, 30's etc? I think it's probably about as easy as ever, but the parameters are different. There were "cold approaches" before, but you knew all the girls in your area, so there weren't actually any cold approaches but just hook ups. Alcohol is famous for the job it does and honestly, the casual sex was more a FWB in that if you found someone you liked having sex with, you just continued to have sex, aka a booty call. Most of it fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:45 AM
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I think this sounds more like a your friendgroup thing. Imagine how many girls you’d have to cold approach to successfully sleep with 100 girls. Tbh probably less than you'd think - women are more empowered to say no now than at any point before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:41 AM
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Am I right in thinking you're talking more about the extreme numbers, rather than the norm? Very few people still have 100+ unless they decided they wanted to. Boomers had a fucking lot of casual sex. As did the elder millennials and Gen x.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:38 AM
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A lot of Redditors are 40 years old, so they don’t seem to understand some pretty average gen Z people (those 28 or younger) are really okay with having sex outside of a relationship. .... what do you think we were doing without the Internet and only 4 channels of television? Sitting in white sewing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:35 AM
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You didn't make it clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:35 AM
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I agree. Women may cause less damage, but it doesn't ever make assault ok. It will still hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 08:33 AM
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It's not a competition...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 08:32 AM
1

You can't help yourself remember? After all, you already said that you think all men are like this, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:30 PM
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Absolutely, your comments show your behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:30 PM
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You'll rape me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:28 PM
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Yes, I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:28 PM
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I would mind. I don't care for sexual violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:28 PM
1

Lol yes. I haven't violated anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:26 PM
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Sweetie, it’s how we all behave. Really? Do you? Interesting....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:26 PM
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Lol, we can read your comments. We know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:25 PM
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We know what you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:23 PM
1

We know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:23 PM
1

And you've already outed yourself. Too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:22 PM
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Anyone reading it knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:22 PM
1

You already outed yourself. Anyone reading this knows about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:22 PM
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Too late dude. You've outed yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:21 PM
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Too late dude. You've already outed yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:21 PM
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No no darling. You're obviously looking to blame people for your actions, so carry on. At least we'll know you did it already.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:18 PM
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No, it's obviously how you behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:17 PM
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I'm not sure you can. It's quite frightening how much you obviously have these thoughts. It actually sounds like you're making excuses for your potential actions....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:17 PM
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Can you be specific? I mean, you're obviously getting this from somewhere. Any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:42 PM
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Are you saying you're incapable of controlling yourself and would rape a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:41 PM
1

"Nope I’m saying that we all know psychologically what happens when we wear certain clothing" What happens when a baby is only wearing a nappy? Are they deserving of sexual attacks since they're wearing next to nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:38 PM
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The same way you see someone is a suit of business formal attire and you feel Ike you need to respect them or see them as respectable So you're acknowledging that the problem isn't what people are wearing, but that you personally have issues you need to sort out?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:37 PM
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Do we? What happens when a baby wears a nappy with no other clothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:35 PM
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It doesn't sound like OP likes any woman tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:55 PM
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Are you trying to say that there are situations in which people deserve to be sexually attacked?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:54 PM
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Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 11:33 AM
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Isn't this just proof of men's inability to get off their asses and do things that will improve their lives but don't require women to have sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 11:14 AM

It's not about how you look, it's just that you're really fucking annoying when you stop us in our tracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:26 AM

Really, I mean it. But your experience isn't typical. You're complaining about women not dating, while telling a woman that her experience isn't correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:25 AM
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I would agree in theory that that's supposed to be the norm. Unfortunately it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:49 AM
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It's the results of women's work, making for a peaceful house and person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:51 PM
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I know who they are. Can you give me your experience, not theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:15 PM
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? Can you explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 01:45 PM
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Don't need to. You're the one claiming different. Convince me that women are and men must become.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 01:15 PM
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Except that men simply didn't adjust....which also includes sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:54 PM
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No, it's just untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:53 PM
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Meanwhile, men answering the same question tend to say things like “I just love her,” “I feel peaceful around her,” “she is herself,” “I am drawn to her.” Except all of this is the results of women's labour....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 10:11 AM
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But ok, what would I want or need... women caring and taking this stuff more seriously. What stuff exactly? And what would that look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 10:02 AM
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Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 02:29 PM
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I agree, I'm saying it's often low key and these guys are more common than the outright evil ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:27 PM
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Yeah, and I reckon those little "dicks" are more common than the actual mustache twirling villains who attack women in their homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 11:42 AM
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