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What were the methods?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:58 PM
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Are you saying you went from a kissless virgin to fulfilling all of your fantasies from videos online? What methods are you referring to here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:32 PM
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This is so pathetic. The point is not that financial literacy is exclusively measured by numbers. The point is that it can be measured by numbers. Flirting can’t. This means they are different. That’s why they are not alike. You not picking this up and arguing what I didn’t say is what’s poor reading comprehension actually is. You’re going to do it again too. Arrogant, smug, dim witted. Do you know what these are? Words other people describe you as. People agree with me because correct and a bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:57 PM
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Financial literacy is taught with numbers and logic. This is a fact you will write 4 paragraphs about. It’s still a fact. Flirting is not. You’ve have multiple people flat out called you arrogant. It’s not a coincidence that I just broke down in detail why you are. Men naturally pick up flirting or they don’t. If you don’t pick it up naturally some clown on the internet isn’t going to help you. It’s not taught or due to effort. Man who aren’t good at flirting can be married. You also don’t know …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 10:57 PM
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This isn’t an argument. It’s me stating facts and describing what you’ve done and you whining about them. Finance is measured in numbers and facts. This alone makes it incomparable to flirting. This is a fact not feelings. This isn’t debatable. If finance is qualitative then measure or teach basic financial literacy without numbers. Let’s see if you’re dumb enough to try. When you invest you are guaranteed to own the stock. You’ve bought it. When you flirt you guaranteed nothing and are dependen…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 07:48 PM
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I can’t dumb this down enough for you. Finance does not isolate skill. It isolates numbers and facts. That’s quantitative. Flirting does not. You cannot determine financial literacy without using numbers. You’re blue pilled in white knighting for women daily hoping for their attention. Then a scumbag for acting like a guru that can teach flirting. You’ve successfully used the dumbest points of both sides. Where you’ve again used piss poor logic is that “every man who failed didn’t try”. Plenty o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 06:25 PM
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Telling men that being nice to women doesn’t make them attractive does not require calling them losers and incompetent. You’re creating an excuse to do so because this is the only time in your life you’ll ever be able to belittle others. It’s the only place you’ve ever felt tough. The most cowardly type of man I could imagine. I haven’t lied to anyone. I’m not here to give advice. I don’t tell others what to do thinking I’m a savant because I married a basic fat bitch like anyone could do. I nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:04 PM
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You do understand that calling people losers and incompetent is not the way to criticize behavior right? Another pathetic argument. There are insecure wanna be internet bullies that want to justify the cause to name call and there are competent men who can speak intelligently to criticize behavior. I’m not advocating for anything except for the fake internet bullies to be put in their place which I’ve done. Yes financial skill can be measured quantitatively. You’ve just done so by measuring a sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:15 PM
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Finances measured in dollars. A formula isn’t needed to prove this. Common sense is. Finance is quantitative not qualitative. I know I’m correct. You cannot calculate flirting like I told you. Multiple people have now told you this as other people with actual intelligence have come to support my logic and laugh at yours. I’ve brilliantly highlighted your incompetence again to the point you’ve admitted I’m correct. I could marry a ran through fat bitch and brag on Reddit telling everyone she’s be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:17 PM
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Do you know how you calculate a millionaire’s savings? With numbers. Don’t know how to calculate flirting? You cannot. You’ve just proven my point again. I see right through your bullshit. “I just want to help” yet you’ve on this very post calling men losers and incompetent which is actually very ironic. Yes you’re surely looking to help by doing this.. This is also why your comments all are downvoted. You have no idea what you’re talking about I don’t give a shit about your advice. If a woman f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:04 PM
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Do you want a financial formula? It’s called a budget. It has numbers. Flirting does not. You don’t asses financial literacy across all incomes at once. How many people need to tell you this? You haven’t belittled anyone. You tried and failed because you’ve met someone superior to you. You aren’t successful because you got some washed up trash that no one else wanted. This isn’t a hobby, you’re fuming writing pages of notes because I’ve won. I’m not here to give advice. I’m here to put the piece…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:32 PM
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Lmao you’ve got into the stage of Reddit delusion. All of a sudden you have a perfect life yet you have nothing better to do but bitch and cry on Reddit about other men and hope women give you a shred of attention for white knighting. Funny thing is your delusional flex isn’t even impressive. Creatively, yet another thing you lack that I’m better than you in. Financial literacy can be measured in numbers. Flirting cannot. You can use any budget or formula. Keep crying about it but you can’t chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:33 PM
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Do you understand what you just wrote? Numbers. You make your budget relative to the cost of living which can be measured. Another genius comeback only proving my point. Does nothing to refute that financial literacy can be measured by numbers. Flirting cannot. No comparison. Whens the last time you’ve been to the gym bud? Tell me how much you can rep so I can laugh. I’ve been there and done that. This is actually measurable therefore I know I’m better than you at it because I’ve already put in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:48 AM
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Do you understand what you just wrote? Numbers. You make your budget relative to the cost of living which can be measured. Another genius comeback only proving my point. Does nothing to refute that financial literacy can be measured by numbers. Flirting cannot. No comparison. Whens the last time you’ve been to the gym bud? Tell me how much you can rep so I can laugh. I’ve been there and done that. This is actually measurable therefore I know I’m better than you at it because I’ve already put in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:47 AM
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Great then every man should be hitting on women as fast as they can. Just hit on everyone as soon as you meet them because if you’re first you win. It doesn’t matter who she likes just be first. By listening to this men will not wait to make a move they will all just do it asap. I guess this won’t be awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:11 AM
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I mean “women like men who make a move” is a generalization. It doesn’t mean if you make a move, that woman will like you. Yes act like a woman is a bitch for liking a guy who made a move over someone who doesn’t This implies she likes the guy and chose him because he made the move first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:10 PM
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You didn’t pick up that the point is not that attraction isn’t multifaceted despite me outlining this for you. The point is if you don’t have the looks she desires then she doesn’t care what the rest of the factors are. It’s common sense you need to pass the looks threshold before anything else matters. I’m not the one who doesn’t understand this. You are. You measure in dollars no matter what the cost of living is genius. There’s something called a percentage that can handle this. Yet again the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:49 PM
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I’m know you struggle with following along but physical attractiveness determines if she’s receptive to the flirting. Not your “skill”. Yes financial literacy is measurable. It doesn’t matter what your cost of living is. It’s measurable in dollars and can be tested and taught. Yet another failed argument. Men don’t choose to fail. You didn’t choose to fail. I don’t give a fuck what improves likeliness if it still fails. You desperately try to pin this to men’s choice and effort because you think…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:01 PM
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Yes women reject men they flirt with by giving these one word uninterested responses. That’s a rejection. If women find you unattractive you don’t get signs of interest. Your “skill” doesn’t matter. Your attractiveness does. Now I know you’re taking out of your ass with claiming I refuse to learn. I’ve put more into this than you ever will in your life. Not only studying this but actually experiencing it. This does not equate to success. What you and all these blue pilled can’t comprehend is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:09 PM
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There is no course to teach flirting. There is no test to measure flirting. Theodore anyone can simply declare they are good at it. Do I need to explain to you what happens when men flirt with women who think they’re unattractive? You already know this. I’m sure. Men who are not “good at flirting” don’t equate to spineless pushovers. Neither do unattractive men. You cannot force relationships to happen through willpower and you pushing this is an incredibly poor idea. There will always be arroga…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:07 PM
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No. This does incentivize men to make a move. That guy thinks he has a chance with you if he makes a move. If he can one day find the right place and time. He thinks he has a chance and will stay around waiting for it. Then what happens when he does make a move? The situation just turned even more uncomfortable. After constantly hearing women love the guy who makes a move and when he does it’s a complete failure things are only going to get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:16 PM
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This environment. The one that I directly quoted. I also said this in another comment but it’s very uncomfortable when you can tell a man likes you but is afraid to make a move and you’re not interested. You can’t just randomly announce you’re not attracted to him but if you keep hanging out you’re accused of just liking attention and “orbiting.” Is created by men hearing you and other women say they like men who made the move because he made the move. it’s weird to get mad that men who do make …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:51 PM
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Yes I’m saying this encourages men to make a move which creates this environment you said was very uncomfortable when unattractive men do it. If I was in that environment I would not be saying I like the person who made the move. I would be stating the real reason that made me want the specific people TO make the move and why I don’t want others to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:25 PM
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When it comes to competence yes logic and reason determine this. This has nothing to do with competence. You want it to because you think you’re good at flirting. You’re bringing up autistic men which furthermore diminishes your point. Men do not choose to be autistic. A perfect example of why I just told you that you either get it or you don’t. You saying a lack of fleeting sabotages looks is irrelevant. Attractive men don’t have to be good at flirting. A mediocre level is enough. What is relev…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:14 PM
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I know you want to use this to feel intelligent but this is not the way to do so. Competence requires logic and reasoning. Flirting is emotional and cannot be measured. This is a personality trait, not a skill that’s chosen. The success of flirting is not due to skill, it’s due to physical attraction. Men think they’re good at flirting because a woman was physically attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:26 PM
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I know you want to use this to feel intelligent but this is not the way to do so. Competence requires logic and reasoning. Flirting is emotional and cannot be measured. This is a personality trait, not a skill that’s chosen. The success of flirting is not due to skill, it’s due to physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:26 PM
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This is again your moral justification in thinking every man can be this smooth talking player if he just tries. That’s not reality. If you “suck at flirting” and you improve you still “suck at flirting”. Being less awkward does not mean success or that you’re good. You’re pretending that every guy becomes this smooth talking player after a certain point when in reality most men are not considered this at all. You have no idea how this plays out for anyone else other than you and what other fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:12 PM
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And I’ve seen people throw fits when you tell them this. They’re told that story of women becoming attracted over time and that confidence and personality will make up for physical attraction for men who didn’t make the cut. The blue pill is creating this problem for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:12 PM
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Banter and flirting is something you get or you don’t. There is no learning if you don’t get it. You may become more comfortable doing it with repetition which appears to looker better but these are people who already get it. Women are not going to teach you what to say and when to say it. Men can’t either. This is why the red pill scam to teach you game through a series of courses is so popular. They sell that they are the one person who can teach this thing that no one else can. They can’t. Pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:03 PM
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it’s weird to get mad that men who do make a move are successful. Or act like a woman is a bitch for liking a guy who made a move over someone who didn’t. That’s another mark of being a Nice Guy vs a nice guy. Here you’ve just implied the guy who made a move is the guy you like who is rewarded and wins because he made a move. This statement incentivizes all men to make a move on you. I also said this in another comment but it’s very uncomfortable when you can tell a man likes you but is afraid t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:51 PM
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You’re oblivious to what I just told you and I’m not surprised. The point flew over your head from the beginning. The fact that you interpreted me telling you physical attraction is most important as I’m “amazed”is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:57 AM
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No shit. I just told you that. Im obviously not amazed. What is amazing is that women and white knights will tell men their personality is the problem when it’s clearly looks based.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:29 AM
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It amazes you that the blue pill exists? Why are you asking me and not them? Tell it to those idiots who say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 11:02 PM
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Now that you’ve admitted this this is correct you’ve just lost several blue pill excuses. “You fail with women because you don’t have confidence” Attractive men are seen as confident while unattractive men are seen as arrogant and annoying for the same attitude and behavior. “Improve your personality to get women” “Just talk to women” Attractive men are warmly accepted by women while unattractive men are met hostility for the same behavior and personality. When you admit women treat and choose m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 08:52 PM
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You’ve just had another women above tell me good relationship ranks higher than being single. Now I see why she’s asking how many times it needs repeating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:11 AM
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No they’ve said women are happier single. Just as several of you say here on a regular basis.. If you’re confused read the quote and the last comment you replied to. You have just tried to push this same men bad narrative on this post arguing that married women aren’t happier. Now you’re back tracking trying to play the other side as if everyone doesn’t know this. Since you want to pull this then say most women are happier in relationships since most of them want and are in one while outliers ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:04 AM
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I’m sure. Most women I’ve seen are like this. This is why I’m confident most would reject a guy that I’d want them to marry as she was asking me. Because most aren’t homebodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 06:12 AM
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Then you acknowledge all these traits you’re mentioning aren’t valuable in dating. If they don’t attract women it does not matter what type of husband you would be. You’ve been rejected before she has any idea. Im not asking women to be loyal to me on a first date. I’m telling you the these traits don’t spark excitement or attraction. Rejecting a guy at a bar or on an app is not the most important decision of her life or marriage. This is not about out giving all men a chance. Some men aren’t go…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 06:06 AM
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There are plenty of men capable of this period. Much more than 50% are capable and worthy even if they don’t check every box. Most men have things like kindness, patience, and loyalty. I see no issues. I gave 20 to 30% of guys who check every box. Accepting a marriage proposal and rejecting a guy at a bar or on an app where none of this comes into play yet are also 2 very different requirements. What I don’t see is patience, kindness, or loyalty valued at all in dating. These aren’t fun or excit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 03:02 AM
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You’re telling me to draw up the perfect guy I would trust. That’s why I said it’s not limited to just that percentage who has every single aspect and misses nothing. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t accept someone that isn’t perfect and no one who isn’t perfect isn’t good enough. The point was that it was being sugar coated and the reality isn’t as pretty. To say women are better off single usually involves a huge ego to think no man is good enough for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 01:11 AM
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The comment said that men were the unbearable ones. Not women. That’s why I said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:46 AM
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No these are not all determined in a single conversation. You don’t learn all of this while being approached at a bar. Women reject men before learning any of that. I also already mentioned it’s a way of women calling you unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:36 AM
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They said they’re happier single. Not just single women not some women. Women don't necessarily think they're winning by being single, they're just happier single than they would be in relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:31 AM
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That doesn’t change anything. I’ve pointed out that if women in relationships are happier then women aren’t happier single. You adding “good” does nothing. But even saying women are happier in good relationships destroys your ability to say women are better without men and have no reason to pursue relationships which is what you really want. Women aren’t happier single. They’re happier in relationships which is why so many of them get married. You changing this to good relationships still means …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 10:36 PM
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They are deceiving whoever they tell this to. It’s embarrassing I have to repeat simple things to you 5x and you still don’t have a clue what’s going on. I’ve answered you multiple times but you can’t read. I can post this again and you’ll ask the same shit. Waste of time. It’s the deception as I pointed out. Playing it off as “I can’t find anyone” when it’s really “I think I’m better than everyone”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 10:16 PM
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I just said it and repeated multiple times then told you it was in the last comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:52 PM
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I don’t know what percent Id guess 20-30% match every box. Enough people that I would not be saying they’re better off single because no one qualifies. But I don’t need a perfect match or score in this scenario to approve of them. There’s a much larger percentage that I’d hear out. And I don’t base anything on an algorithm. I’m based on what I actually see. That does not mean all women will reject this type of guy but I’ve constantly seen this type of guy get very little attention from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:48 PM
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The deception is why. That is what the last comment just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:34 PM
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Yes most women. They can get on an app right now and be propositioned for a date with in hours. A fake page with random images listed as a woman can receive attention. You’ve just said most women don’t receive attention from men. Any bar, club, or dating app will disprove that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:33 PM
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It’s the deception as I pointed out. Playing it off as “I can’t find anyone” when it’s really “I think I’m better than everyone”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:12 PM
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When you’re in a relationship you’re going to hear about all of the men approaching and hitting on her. You’re going to hear about the exes who keep calling to come over. You’re going to see the constant messages in their dms. Getting on a dating app will prove this correct in a matter of hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:00 PM
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Yet again I have to explain to you that I did not say me. I clearly said anyone. Reddit again for the third time. Anyone. If you can’t comprehend this don’t bother trying to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:40 PM
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You don’t know what’s compatible that early on in meeting someone and there is a reason they’re never going to give you the chance to figure it out. I just listed the reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:37 PM
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I’m going to point out why. What’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:36 PM
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Making random claims sounds pretty irrelevant to me. Do you think spouting random buzzwords and phrases accomplishes anything? But of course you want to change the subject away from your ego because there isn’t a response to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:33 PM
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Speaking to any man is painful and humiliating while speaking to women is always great?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:28 PM
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Then tell that to the person who said women are happier single and not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:26 PM
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There’s the cringe “we don’t owe you” line. Read again. I clearly said not finding anyone, not me. Being better off single is not just understanding one person isn’t a match. It’s saying no one is a match. When you think that no man is worthy of being with you that is 100% an ego problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:17 PM
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Women would reject the shit out of the guy I would recommend. The focused, stable, loyal, homebody who is responsible. No flashy IG posts and constant trips. That’s boring to women. That’s not fun. My choice to your question is probably doing terrible with women. What does this prove? There are plenty of men. Hundreds of options yet every one is so terrible that not one is good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:12 PM
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Of course. Unless there is a clear misalignment of values that’s usually what is inferred. Plus a way of them calling you physically unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:04 PM
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Read the comment again. Your deceptive framing is the focus. It’s not you not finding anyone. It’s your ego and you thinking you’re better than the several options you’ve found. You haven’t thought enough to know what’s a good fit. It’s driven by ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:00 PM
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Trying to play innocent with “I just can’t find anyone” isn’t going to fly. You can and have found multiple suitors and you think you’re better than all of them. It’s the phrasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:56 PM
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If women are “just happier single” then none of them should be married or in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:52 PM
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Look at how you’re talking about them. Calling a simple engagement with men so unbearable that it’s painful and humiliating clearly demonstrates your lack of respect for men and how you think you’re above them. Yes, it is you claiming they aren’t good enough. A total over exaggeration anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:47 PM
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You can think that but it’s framed as “can’t find anyone” when it’s really “I think I’m better than all of you”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:39 PM
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Oh no they’ve found plenty of options. It’s not that they can’t find someone. It’s that no one is good enough for them. Let’s call this what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:54 PM
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It’s not the way to go. It’s the most accurate description of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 02:00 PM
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Then you’ve ignored the entire issue and solved nothing. Abusers are still being rewarded and favored. You also don’t just declare to be confident and indifferent and suddenly watch woman start to line up to date you. Telling a man to be confident like abusers does not help at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 12:25 AM
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This is a common response. If men have experiences with women that they don’t think are positive it’s the man’s fault somehow. It’s not possible that it’s just a common trait in women. Saying women generally prioritize fun and excitement over stability in dating is not sexist. It’s what I’ve seen time and time again. What I’ve always seen and experienced is what’s normal. I can’t go by what you tell me to believe. Stability has very little value in dating and attraction and is most often worthle…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 11:30 PM
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That’s exactly what the blue pill is. Have a “good personality” and if it fails you’re a shit person. They have no answers or solution beyond that. Just cast the guy as a shit person. The red pill actually provides an answer of money and status. While this is technically correct the level of money and status needed for men to use it in dating isn’t obtainable for most men to go this route. Neither have great solution but the red pill will go into depth about the ways women will mistreat you and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 11:22 PM
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When majority display the same behavior that’s what will be addressed. There are outliers to every group, they are irrelevant. There would be no discussion on anything if we could just deny everything because 100% don’t do this and some random outlier does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 09:36 PM
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There is one simple problem that creates all of this. The blue pill can and will fail. What happens when you are the best version you can be and it’s not good enough? The red pill are the only ones who try to answer this. Once you’ve done everything you’re told to do and it fails the red pill will be front and center when you’re searching for answers. The blue pill will tell you you’re not owed anything and that’s that. Any further questioning will result in hostility. Those men who are lucky en…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 09:20 PM
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Right so when you say women are just normal people trying to get through the day who and pay bills there’s much more to it than that. Stability is consistently doing the same thing. You’ve just said you were living in your car and attracting women. That’s as unstable as you can get. This is exactly that commenters point and mine. Women want fun and excitement. They aren’t attracted to peace and stability and they don’t care how you make the fun and excitement happen. They just care that it happe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:19 PM
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Being adventurous is not stable. Chaos is not stable. Living in a car is anything but stable. It’s unpredictable. Having a consistent routine day to day is stable. To women it’s boring. They only do this when have to. What they want is excitement. Drama is one form of that. They will want the guy with drama over the guy who prioritizes his taxes every time. I see no issues with the original comment. You say women just want to pay bills but when it comes to dating just paying bills is not going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:30 PM
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If a man is struggling in dating that means he is not attracting women. Go a head and explain how that man raising his standards and talking to less women is going to benefit him when can’t attract them in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:19 PM
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Let’s repeat this. It doesn’t make sense that men date women who are attracted to them….. Genius. I never suggested higher standards attract anyone. I said having standards helps with the struggle. I know. This is exactly what I pointed out. What you don’t comprehend is the struggle is attracting someone. You’ve just proven me correct in that you did not list any benefit. Higher standards do not attract anyone therefore they do not help men struggling who need to attract someone. Incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:13 PM
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What difference does it make if they know why or not? The issue is that the abusive man is rewarded. If a guy understands that he may have been rewarded for other qualities what does that solve? An abuser was still rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:08 PM
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The pool is women who are attracted to you. The fuck is so hard to comprehend? You don’t understand you cannot date women who aren’t. Men cannot just pick a woman and declare she’s his option. You have to attract her. Imagine saying the pool of your dating options is women who aren’t attracted to you is “backwards”. It’s fucking common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:55 PM
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The pool is women who are attracted to you. The fuck is so hard to comprehend? You don’t understand you cannot date women who aren’t. Men cannot just pick a woman and declare she’s his option. You have to attract her. Imagine saying the pool of your dating options is women who aren’t attracted to you is “backwards”. It’s fucking common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:55 PM
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You should actually try reading the posts and comments on the sub to know this. But that would require you to acknowledge the countless bitter man hating women and white knights commenting here daily that you want to pretend don’t exist. Now you’re saying shit like “objective lie” to conjure up some bullshit fantasy of how women can do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:51 PM
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Men’s struggle is not being able to attract women in the first place. It does not matter if women exist. What matters is the women who are willing to date you. You make the pool by attracting women. Your starting point is zero. Men do not start with an ocean of options like you do. They start with zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:43 PM
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Why aren’t you first letting women know they are focused on the wrong thing and should be more concerned with the fact that he’s an abuser and not with his confidence and indifference? You’re not saying to be an abuser but what you are saying with this is that it’s ok because your confidence and indifference will be what attracts women. Not your morality. What men have issue with is that abusers are given a pass and rewarded in dating because of confidence. Men have issue that abusers are reward…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:29 PM
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You’ve just admitted you defend women more. You sprinkling in a few outliers does not change what side you’re on. Your justification is men are wrong and generalizing more which goes back to you favoring women which is why you think this. You claiming not to see what women say in this sub is yet again your bias. You give them a pass. I see it clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:26 PM
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No that is you.. quite literally This isn't true though. The internet is full of men complaining about misandry when people make general criticisms of men. General criticisms are problematic regardless of who they're directed at. “Men do it too” I’m not confusing anything. You deliberately choose to defend generalizations against women. You don’t want to go to feminist subs because there are not enough men to disagree with. The vast majority of this sub is women shitting on men and blue pilled m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:18 PM
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I just told you men’s issue is not the quality of the pool. It’s populating the pool in the first place. How does higher standards help this? It does not. You’re applying higher standards to an empty pool..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:12 PM
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Then you’ve just realized you do understand where this comes from. Women want fun just like he said. Stability is not fun. Stability is not exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:57 PM
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You didn’t answer anything. You have given zero benefits of doing this. You don’t understand that higher standards don’t get you a quality pool. They deplete the pool to zero. The quality of the pool is not men’s issue. It’s getting the pool in the first place. You’ve now shifted the goal to always rejected to deflect from your original logic. Men are not accountable for rejection when it’s due to factors outside of their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:54 PM
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You’re saying you disputed the no one really cares part but you quoted this. If someone makes a general criticism of women, you tend to get responses like “that’s people in general though” “men do it too” “not all women are like that” or in more extreme cases “you’re a misogynist/incel/hate women.” That’s you. You also know that majority of your comments are defending women and opposing men. You can have outliers but you clearly favor one side.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:51 PM
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This does not answer how a man having higher standards and lowering his options will benefit him when men’s struggle is being able to attract women in the first place. If men are rejected due to factors outside of his control there is nothing to be accountable for. He could have done everything right and still been rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:35 PM
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This does not answer how a man having higher standards will benefit him when men’s struggle is being able to attract women in the first place. And since you’ve acknowledged that men can be rejected without having repulsive actions you’ve acknowledged that men do not have anything to be accountable for when rejection is not under his control.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:25 PM
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This does not answer how a man having higher standards will benefit him when men’s struggle is being able to attract women in the first place. And since you’ve acknowledged that men can be rejected without having repulsive actions you’ve acknowledged that men do not have anything to be accountable for when rejection is not under his control.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:24 PM
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As they should be. When women are choosing abusers over men who aren’t that should be a red flag that’s something is wrong. Instead of faulting the woman’s decision making here you’re faulting the men for not being more like the abusers. You’re telling men that they have a pass to be an abuser so long as they’re confident and have indifference towards her because it’s attractive. That’s wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:19 PM
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Women want fun and excitement. That’s what the women you know want. Drama is one form of excitement. Peace and stability is boring. It’s not attractive. You’re going to fail miserably in 2025 if that’s your selling point to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:14 PM
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What does narrowing your pool or options have to do with this? There is no benefit. Also you do know that women can reject you without you having done anything repulsive right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:11 PM
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Did you actually think this was an answer? I said benefit. You listed no benefit. You don’t understand. Men don’t struggle because they don’t like the women they date. Men struggle because they can’t get the women to like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:37 PM
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How is a man, who likely receives little to no attention from women, going to benefit from raising his standards and eliminating even more women from his potential dating pool?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:22 PM
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They’re incapable of recognizing women contribute to dating issues or that they can be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:18 PM
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Only this sub… You are commenting on a post saying that this doesn’t happen while you’re doing exactly what he just said. He made a a general criticism of women. You are the “men do it too” piece. Someone makes a comment about men you’re conveniently nowhere to be found.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:14 PM
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He is correct but let’s give you a chance anyway. How is a man, who likely receives little to no attention from women, going to benefit from raising his standards and eliminating even more women from his potential dating pool?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:05 PM
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You don’t know where this comes from? Date women in 2025. Peace and stability is boring. Peace and stability is not attractive, interesting, or fun. Peace and stability gets you rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:54 PM
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What difference does it make if guys get this or not? Most guys do and it’s still an issue because women are choosing abusive men over you. In what way is this a good thing? Bad men are being rewarded and good men are being incentivized to prioritize “confidence” over morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:13 PM
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Friends and connections with who if you knew nobody? And could men of any appearance could say the exact line you did and have the same success?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 12:02 AM
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No, low status guys do not get laid all the time. The most physically attractive guys might get laid somewhat regularly. Low status guys get lucky once in a blue moon and get a fat or unattractive woman which they try to keep in a relationship as long a they can. Women aren’t lining up regularly for some fry cook. This everybody gets laid all the time needs to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 11:58 PM
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You accused me of just wanting sex. You proceeded to call men who just want sex losers. Then proceeded cried about insults. Do you not understand what you just said? Now you’re running. Go ahead and clearly state that I am not one of those men since you want to walk this back and claim it wasn’t an insult. Society would greatly benefit from men and and women being I relationships. Unfortunately for you, your dating decisions do not determine a mans worth. They’d be a loser to simp for bratty wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:25 AM
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Do you know what percentage of Americans voted republican? Do you understand that this means they do not care about this issue enough to support it? Do you understand that by your logic if society doesn’t care then anyone can declare your issue is not valid? Unfortunately you don’t. I’ve already quoted you. You’ve said it twice but go a head and make it clear that I am not one of the loser men you’ve described. Make it perfectly clear since you aren’t trying to push this weak insult on me. You s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:51 AM
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You can’t quite get the point. The point is not that republicans should have won. It’s that majority of people voted for them knowing they oppose abortion. Not 70%. The point is your poor logic doesn’t hold up. The point is when men start to treat you how you treat them you want to cry about it. Love how you tried to walk back your little insults and once I quote them you completely forget and want to be brave again. You’ve just repeatedly called men losers then said society doesn’t care about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 12:56 AM
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You can’t quite get the point. The point is not that republicans should have won. It’s that majority of people voted for them knowing they oppose abortion. Not 70%. The point is your poor logic doesn’t hold up. The point is when men start to treat you how you treat them you want to cry about it. Love how you tried to walk back your little insults and once I quote them you completely forget and want to be brave again. You’ve just repeatedly called men losers then said society doesn’t care about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 12:56 AM
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The majority voted for republicans. That’s not incorrect. It’s a basic fact. Therefore by your logic your issues aren’t valid. You are the exact type to act brave and run your mouth then they to walk back what you said as you cry about how I’m taking to you in response. You’re not walking this back. You all resort to lying like I can’t quote the exact comment. And women should go through all of this because some loser man thinks that he is entitled to pleasure at her expense? No. You pick a hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 09:56 PM
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You’ve been running your mouth talking shit from the beginning and now you’re trying to pretend you’re some angel who’s done nothing wrong. As if i didn’t see every one of your comments. I don’t think you even know what a personal attack is. Like when you tried and failed to call me a loser. You think these were attacks I haven’t even gotten started. You should be thankful I haven’t. Society voted for republicans knowing they oppose abortion. You’re not getting around this. So according to your …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 09:54 AM
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You don’t decide or determine what pressing issues are. You want to. You don’t. You don’t get common decency because if your nasty attitude and disrespect. You don’t get it because you don’t deserve it. Not because of sex like you’re trying to change this to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:50 AM
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Sex and relationships are not an issue for you. Therefore you don’t give a shit. According to you no one owes anyone anything so if men don’t respect you there should be no complaints. No one owes you decency. Especially when you don’t respect them. You don’t determine what actual injustice or a real issue is. You don’t get to dismiss others issues because you don’t experience or understand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:06 AM
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Sure you don’t care.. Yet all you all do is complain and talk shit about men 24/7. Men don’t owe you respect since no one’s owes anyone anything. If we’re using your logic men don’t owe you anything you expect of them. You can’t answer the question because you know you’ve given men no reason to support you when all you do is disrespect them and you diminish anything they bring up as a non issue. That’s the point. Sex and relationships is what your privilege is as a woman which is why you dismiss…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 11:12 PM
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Intimacy is not just sex and is not gained from friendship. I clearly outlined that and you still run back to “you jUSt want SeX!!1”. You do this because if you admitted it was more than that it would be much harder to dismiss. I also never touched on the fact that it’s unfair because I know you all can’t admit it and it’s pointless to bring up. It pointless to explain anything to you. You’ve skipped over all details just so you can diminish men’s issues to just being sex. You’re cowardly trying…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 06:09 PM
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Intimacy is not just sex and is not gained from friendship. I clearly outlined that and you still run back to “you jUSt want SeX!!1”. I also never touched on the fact that it’s unfair because I know you can’t admit it and it’s pointless to bring up. It pointless to explain anything to you. You’ve skipped over all details just so you can diminish men’s issues to just being sex. You’re cowardly trying to indirectly call me a loser because you’re mad about what I’m pointing out. I’m met with nothin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 06:09 PM
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You didn’t read shit because I didn’t bring up sex. People like you keep doing it to change the topic. I don’t want to hear the “we don’t want sex” speech either because it goes out of the window once the men you’re attracted to come around. Then all of a sudden sex is fun again. You are once again proving the point. Look at how you’re speaking. Why would I want to help anyone like you when all you have is a negative and nasty attitude with hostility to me? That has nothing to do with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 06:30 AM
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Congrats you’ve proven the op correct. Why should these men support you when you diminish their issues into only wanting to be “serviced” and you don’t respect or support them? You don’t even care enough to know what issues they faced as you’re just trying to give the worst idea of an issue possible to make them look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:50 AM
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You can make up whatever you want about what you think isn’t reported. It’s not 50% of men doing it. But since this is your logic 1 in 4 men experience DV in a relationship. Since a report said women do this I can now complain to you and paint women as bad just like you’re doing to me. You might need to talk to the men who are actually in relationships who this applies to. This still isn’t relevant to the topic. Why should men support you when you don’t support or respect them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:15 AM
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Most men are not being violent or arguing it should be allowed. You’re bringing up irrelevant topics. You’re conveniently ignoring the premise of the post because you know the answer. Why should men help or support you with your issues when you don’t support or help them? You don’t even respect them or acknowledge their issues. Your only response is “my issues are more important”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:42 PM
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It does not matter what the issue is tied to. The bottom line is why should men care about your issues when you don’t care about theirs? Your response is “your issues aren’t important and mine are”. That’s not convincing. Foreign countries are irrelevant. You can’t tell men “fuck you help me” and be surprised when they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:24 PM
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What should be a right is not part of the discussion. You brought this up. You cannot say because something is not a constitutional right there are no issues present. If an issue like this is brought up the response is why should I care? It’s not a right. This isn’t important. It’s your fault. You choose to respond this way. Not a foreign country. Men hear this and they are questioning why should they support people who diminish their issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:29 PM
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I don’t care what you think can remediate the issue. You don’t tell anyone what is an issue for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:15 PM
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None of this matters. If a man says sex is an issue you cannot come in to say it’s not important because you don’t value it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:59 PM
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Majority of men value sex. That’s not my opinion. That’s common knowledge to anyone who’s interacted with men. What you think is an issue means nothing. What matters is the men who experience the issue. You don’t get to tell them it’s not an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:20 PM
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You literally said “Sex is not an issue.” I did not. What I said was if you think you can determine what an issue is then men can do the same to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:04 PM
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I’m not the one telling people what is or isn’t an issue for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:30 PM
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You don’t determine what’s important. Normal people understand the value of sex and don’t think it’s gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:47 PM
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The general idea he’s portraying is correct. I know what he means. Men are motivated by women. She’s arguing against this idea to imply men’s main motivation is something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:45 PM
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You don’t determine what problems are important. It doesn’t matter if there are other problems. This isn’t an excuse to write people off. Again if I use your logic I can pick any issue you think is important, tell you it’s not important and declare it’s not a problem simply because I don’t face it. If you have a problem with me doing that you’re a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:47 AM
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I just told you that is a demonstration of why men cannot simply find women that easily with no problem as you said they could. I also told you that is not the problem. The problem is people like you that don’t value sex or can easily get it who think they can be the ones to declare it’s not an issue because it’s not something they personally understand or struggle with. Since you want to talk about normal people, normal people value sex and aren’t calling it gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:56 AM
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No. That’s clearly just a demonstration of why men cannot find sex with no problem like you claim they can. Just because men can does not mean they do it with no problem. The problem is people like you that don’t value sex or can easily get it who think they can be the ones to declare it’s not an issue because it’s not something you struggle with. Since you want to talk about normal people, normal people value sex and aren’t calling it gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:40 AM
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No. Normal men cannot just walk outside and women drop their pants and they have sex with whoever they want. It’s not that simple or easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:15 PM
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It’s quite normal for men to value sex. So yes I speak for most men. Normal men also do not want you telling them what they should or shouldn’t consider an issue. No men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:43 PM
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Normal men are not giving you the right to determine what is and isn’t an issue for them. No one is. You don’t speak for men. Which is why you don’t determine what is an issue like you’re trying to. If you think you can you’ve given men the right to treat you the same way you treat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:27 PM
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Again if you think you can determine what is and isn’t an issue for men, I don’t want to hear anything when men determine what you think is important isn’t an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:27 PM
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Yes people need this and the problem is we’re pretending as if they don’t. Recognizing a need does not mean all men are guaranteed it. For men this is completely in the hands of women so they have the complete power to determine the fate of this piece of a man’s life. Men easily give this away so it’s not as much of a concern for women. You say you’re currently being oppressed and I don’t know what you’re defining that as. But whatever it is, women have the same power to do this to certain men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:25 PM
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Treating you the same would mean responding to your issues the same way you respond to ours. If you think you have the right to determine whether or not men’s issues are important and that you can tell them what to be interested in then you should expect them to do the same to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:10 PM
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This isn’t opinion. It’s an example of what men would be saying and doing if they treated you the same way you treated them. When men have an issue it’s frivolous, most men get married, no one owes you anything. Your response is essentially “fuck you got mine” to those who are struggling but if they say that back to you when you’re struggling it’s an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:09 PM
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No I would never call dating frivolous. It’s not biologically akin to food. It’s a psychological need. Removing intimacy, touch, romantic love, and desire from one’s life entirely will be devastating to that person. Could you imagine what a different person you would be if you never touched, kissed, or held another person? People need this. Dating is determining whether or not you will ever experience this. More so to men who have more testosterone and a higher sex drive. If you have the right t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:57 PM
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And that’s becoming less and less common. That’s an issue. Ok are we just going to say most men get married and fuck you if you didn’t? Then are those men supposed to say most women aren’t oppressed we don’t care about them if they are? If you are determining what is and isn’t an issue for men why can men not determine what is and isn’t an issue for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:42 PM
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Because I know what he means. Love comes with sex. There is no way he’s referring to wanting a woman’s love that never wants sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:37 PM
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It’s not just sex. It’s receiving love, intimacy, and sex. It’s not an issue to you because you either don’t value it, already have it, or can get it whenever you want it. If you deprive someone of this for a long period or even their entire life it will be an issue 100% of the time. And you are not the one who determines if it is an issue or not. If you think you can then why should men not be able to determine your problems as a non issue simply because they don’t have them or think they shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:31 PM
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Your comment is diminishing men facing any dating issues. As if it’s impossible that it exists and that women have contributed to it. You don’t consider it a real issue because it doesn’t effect you. This does not mean only men who have never been in a relationship either. You can have had relationships and still face these issues. The response men get to not only this but any men’s issues is it’s entirely your fault and not valid. But your issues are because of us and are valid. Why shouldn’t w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:23 PM
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You haven’t made a great argument to his question. All you’ve done is diminish men’s issues and demand that yours are recognized. Told us that your issues are important and need attention while ours are not. Feminism is supposedly about equality yet you’re telling us how our issues are not equal and you deserve help while we don’t. Why would I want to support someone like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:09 PM
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What you’ve said is your issues matter and fixing them is justice because they benefit you. Men’s issues don’t matter to you because they don’t benefit you. He’s brought up a great point. Why should men support or help you? Especially when you don’t support or help them. You don’t even respect or acknowledge the issues they go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:04 PM
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He is correct. That’s the main motivation in most men to succeed. It’s to find love/sex and then it’s to keep it. There are some outliers like asexual and feminine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:42 PM
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I’ve already seen you say this. That’s irrelevant and solves nothing. It actually makes the whole situation worse because the more attractive and valuable the woman is the more likely it for her to be picky and likely to ghost. She has more options and more competition to ghost you for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:45 AM
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No. Women are more picky, Women have been proven to initiate the majority of breakups. It’s not just as common for men. Men are more likely to stay. We are not all just humans. We are completely different and have separate tendencies. This is not about what men and women should do. It’s about preparing for what they will most likely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:30 AM
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I don’t care if men have ghosted before. You need to realize outliers are irrelevant. It’s not anywhere close to as common as women. Which is why it’s documented that they are the ones who most commonly initiate breakups. It’s not up for debate it’s been proven that women do this. Men don’t control whether or not a women ghosts. That’s her choice that’s she’s responsible for making. Not a man’s fault or issue. You’ve listed women not wanting a long term relationship as the only reason they ghost…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:19 AM
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No as a man you should not. You’re not dating women so you never had to learn this the hard way. Men learn this quickly when they invest in a woman early just for her to instantly drop you for the next guy. This experience will be enough to teach you to expect it the next time. Women don’t ghost you because they aren’t interested in a long term relationship and you are. They ghost you because they woke up today and decided they don’t like you anymore. One wrong move gave her the “ick” and you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:20 AM
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Yes men romanticize women very quickly. Men usually don’t maintain friendships with constant communication like you do. Men and woman are nothing alike. Guys are probably fantasizing about what a long term relationship would be like the second he gets her number. Men develop a sense of loyalty quickly when you don’t. Yes women are more likely to leave. You just said it. This is why men need to treat this as temporary and be prepared for this to happen. Everything you’ve just said is exactly why …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:09 AM
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You’re displaying exactly the reason why the op is true. You are already half way out the door expecting to leave after the first date. Justifying why this is normal. Men should be extremely wary of building any attachment or feelings for someone who has no issues dropping you at any time. This should be treated accordingly. When people tell you women initiate majority of breakups and divorce they aren’t lying. They are the ones who are quick to leave. Men are far less likely to leave and averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:56 AM
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Yes every unflattering truth about women is made up… You haven’t dated women so you don’t realize how flakey and quick they are to drop everything and leave at any stage. Men realize this because they experience it. You don’t understand because you haven’t been on the other side and you fight it because you don’t like the way it sounds. Women will tell you how much they like you and turn around and ghost you that same day. When you treat everything as temporary you aren’t surprised when this hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:29 AM
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Oh right it’s so dumb to think of you as temporary. As opposed to what? How smart you are to think you’re going to get a long term relationship out of someone who’s been on dates with 4 different guys this month and has 100+ matches waiting for her plus all of the guys she knows irl waiting for a chance? Men want to be in relationships with attractive women. You learn to expect most of them come to not want to be there eventually after whatever petty ick or new man they find and because of this …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:46 PM
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I already understand that. Which is why I’m not running around trying to use it as an insult and paint it negatively. Men who do understand dating know to treat you as temporary. To look at this is their turn. This is a logical response to more and more women jumping in and out of relationships recklessly. There is no reason to invest heavily when she will leave you at the sight of the next taller more successful and attractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:25 PM
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You all are so desperate to call men emotional over anything it’s getting bad. Another hive mind trend that catches on so easily. If you actually realize what’s going on this is a logical decision. Men see their behavior of jumping from guy to guy. Men notice how quickly you become done and want the next guy. This means you don’t invest much and you don’t put your trust in someone who makes a habit of leaving relationships without thinking twice. When you treat them as temporary and recognize th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:46 PM
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This is exactly what I’ve said and people start crying immediately. There are unattractive men who feel threatened by this. They want to believe they can pull attractive women because they are confident despite the woman not finding him physically attractive. I thought this was common sense but there are a lot who never figured this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:20 PM
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Most men can give you money, say nice things to you, be kind, cook and clean for you etc. Nothing you listed requires a rare talent aside from the looks. How would men not fail to do this for you? I could see that they might not want to but they are capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:46 PM
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Funny the second I say this I get swarmed with people screaming this is not true. Yet a woman is here saying this and crickets..
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:37 PM
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Insane that you couldn’t derive that from my original comment. You could’ve went this route from the beginning and I would’ve destroyed your argument that way. But you had to start with a disgusting reply and I had to destroy your comprehension instead. What he needs for a chance is to avoid being boring. Which is more important than being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:30 PM
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Basically yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:25 PM
1

Again I’m not asking you who is boring or why. The argument was the incentive they have to be nice to you. I’m not asking you anything now. I’ve already answered it and you continue to avoid the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:21 PM
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My argument was never that all nice men are boring. That is your lack of comprehension showing. I said you’ve already explained how they are boring. My argument was that there is no incentive to be nice to you. Which you have no response to. Your lack of response is admittance of defeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:14 PM
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It’s not saying the literal words most important. It’s the implication. This is what the op is talking about. Maybe you live in a city with ugly people? I live in a university town, so my demographic of women is young and pretty, what can I say? And yes, if I step outside, I will 100% see ugly ass dudes with attractive women walking beside them. It's literally just charisma, confidence, and how you make them subjectively feel. Comment 2: I've seen my brother, who was back then an overweight jobl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:11 PM
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Because they view valuing personality as a positive and valuing looks as a negative. There are plenty of women who value looks but they aren’t going to say it because they don’t want to look shallow or materialistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:05 PM
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There is no way you’re actually serious. Oh well, it was fun but i'm getting tired running this circle for 10th time. No. Boring guy is boring. Nice guy ban be boring, can be not boring, it's completely separate characteristics. You’ve literally said they are separate characteristics. I don’t need confirmation that men can not be nice and not be boring. It’s common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:52 PM
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Yeah you repeated exactly what I’ve told you 5x is NOT what I was asking or saying just like I said you would. Yes, nice men are the ones who aren’t insulting you. You described how they are boring. This does not mean all nice men are boring and I did not ask or say that. No shit.. Now let’s watch you still repeat it again. I’ll answer for you because you aren’t capable. There is no incentive to be nice to you. All they need to worry about is not being boring which you’ve admitted can be done wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:44 PM
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Men here will panic spam reply a million arguments about how you will be fine with just confidence if you even hint that women want men who are physically attractive. These are mainly just blue pilled men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:26 PM
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This is constantly being said. These are just reactions to the statement that men need to be physically attractive to women in order to succeed in dating them. It’s not saying the literal words most important. It’s the implication. This is what the op is talking about. Maybe you live in a city with ugly people? I live in a university town, so my demographic of women is young and pretty, what can I say? And yes, if I step outside, I will 100% see ugly ass dudes with attractive women walking besid…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:13 PM
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Where the fuck did say all nice men are boring? I just broke it down for you in the simplest way possible and you still can’t get it. I said you described how the men who didn’t insult you are boring. Which you did. How the fuck does this in any way mean all nice guys are boring? You have no idea you are literally proving my point which again is not that all nice men are boring. Which you’ll still repeat. My point is if a guy can still be boring nice or not what incentive does he have to be nice…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:33 PM
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Who is boring? The guy who didn’t insult you. I’ve already told you this. Please read from my original comment. You’ve already explained how nice men are boring and will get ignored. Reading comprehension. This does not mean nice = boring. It means you’ve only explained why it is boring and not why they should. You did in fact explain how nice men are boring. You’ve talk about plenty not negative aspects and I’ve seen no positives from you about nice men. This is why I then asked what incentive …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:19 PM
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Clearly they were not forgettable because they are the only ones you’re talking about. I’ll repeat it again but I highly doubt your reading comprehension has improved since my last comment. he didn't insult me. But again, he is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:11 PM
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Reading comprehension. he didn't insult me. This was a comment about nice men and you were comparing them to the ones who insult you. They both failed. One got noticed one was forgettable. Reading comprehension. What incentive to men have to be nice to you when they don’t stand out and are considered boring? Not there are no boring men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:59 PM
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Can you read? But again, he is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:46 PM
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Do you know you wrote this comment? What is it with people giving this bitchy attitude when someone brings up a point they made? I can say absolutely same thing about boring guy. He was directionaly correct because he didn't insult me. He even got better result than insulting guy because he could still message me and there might be something catching my interest unlike rude guy. But again, he is boring. Ideally you should be non-boring and non-rude but this is hard (why? but okay) so the boring …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:35 PM
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What incentive to men have to be nice to you? You’ve already explained how nice men are boring and will get ignored. If they are rude they get noticed. They get a response. If there is a choice between getting ignored or getting a response why wouldn’t they want a response?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:07 PM
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That is exactly what you said. This was the first time you’ve admitted physical appearance matters which exactly what I fucking said the first time and what you’ve been continuously denying. If a woman sees you and determines you do not pass what she finds physically attractive none of this matters as she does not care. A 6 dating a 7 because of high social status is not some incredible achievement. He passed her looks threshold. If her threshold cuts off at 5 those men will not be doing the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:52 AM
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Where do you see the word perfect? I told you they need to be physically attractive. Like I have multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:28 PM
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When you’re running your mouth and trying to insult others you don’t get to cry about it. The funny thing is I’ve been severely holding back and you’re crying about me pointing out your lack of awareness. Do you know what an insult is? Because I haven’t even gotten started. If you don’t like it don’t talk shit. You do know I can literally copy and paste you saying “Because you are insecure” after I’ve clearly demonstrated I’m not multiple times right? Your comment is still up of you saying this.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:21 PM
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This is irrelevant. Your logic is confidence will attract women if you are unattractive. By your logic men do not need to improve their looks because their looks don’t matter. Confidence does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:10 PM
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You’ve done it again. If this was true there would be zero point in going to the gym as you suggested. If women don’t care about your physical appearance no man needs to lift as it does not matter. That part of you lie is many women. Majority of women care about a man’s physical appearance. This looks don’t matter trope was abandoned years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:36 PM
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You want to talk big shit yet turn around and run and cry to the mods if anything is said back to you. Hilarious. I can’t date certain people based on their decisions. Not mine. It’s called rejection. I can’t change that. That doesn’t mean I can’t talk to whoever I want. Anyone rejecting me is wrong because I’m confident to know I’m good enough. You’re hate hearing that and you’re desperately trying to get me to say otherwise. That’s the worst part. You spamming that changes absolutely nothing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:06 PM
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Women wanting to date confident and attractive men is not true? This sub… Holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:00 PM
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Confident men say attractive women of those men are also attractive. It’s not that hard to understand bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:36 PM
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The guy running around calling people insecure is now crying because I pointed out you don’t understand the discussion? Incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:35 PM
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If I wanted to sure. I’m not jumping to every one I see. There’s nothing wrong with approaching. All that’s going to do is reveal if I’ve met her bar of physical attractiveness or not. Confidence has to be accompanied by the proper level of physical attractiveness for it to mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:32 PM
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Try reading the comment you replied to saying it was completely wrong. I live embarrassing people who don’t realize the comment is still up. If a woman sees you and determines you do not pass what she finds physically attractive none of this matters as she does not care. A 6 dating a 7 because of high social status is not some incredible achievement. He passed her looks threshold. If her threshold cuts off at 5 those men will not be doing the same and will never get the chance. There isn’t going…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:08 PM
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Every man faces limitations. Confidence does not mean stupid or delusional. If a 5 is confident and approaches a 10 and isn’t her type that’s means nothing and he gets no where. He’s going to learn what the outcome will be. He can be a brave and confident idiot and keep getting rejected by 10s or he will wise up and confidently approach another 5 that may give him a chance. Confidence isn’t going to get him the 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:04 PM
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The problem is neither one of you can comprehend any of these topics so I have to simply everything that’s being said so you don’t get lost. You changed the subject to me not being confident. That’s what I responded to. I made you recognize that being rejected, failing, and experiencing the limitations that come with them does not mean you aren’t confident. Your logic is that this is why I’m insecure. I’ve just refuted your entire argument by you admitting the most confident man can still fail a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:54 PM
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You continue to miss the point. Playing the game of “social skills” will help a 5 get a 3. It will not allow a 5 to get a 9. But please, continue to spam your irrelevant “hurr durr but confidence helpszz”. That’s not the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:44 PM
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The guy who says women wanting physically attractive men is completely wrong is now advocating for men to to to the gym to increase their physical appearances to attract women. I can’t make this shit up. You don’t even remember your argument that confidence alone without physical attractiveness will attract women above your league as you proceed to contradict this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:41 PM
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This was not a comment to you and yet again you’re jumping into something you don’t understand. You’re stating general ideas and thinking it makes you a genius. This person is saying I fail because of insecurity. I’ve pointed out that you can be the most confident man in the world and still be rejected. This proves that failing does not mean you are not confident or insecure. You need to understand what moving the goalposts actually means. He changed the topic and I addressed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:05 PM
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You’re saying no shit to a concept you don’t understand. I’m also perfectly in line with what I’ve been saying this whole time. Your bullshit claim of moving the goal post has no validity and isn’t going to pass. Read the original comment again. No, they don’t. They help men who already have the proper genetics and physical appearance. This is what unattractive blue pilled men say. This doesn’t make ugly men suddenly attractive. They don’t change your physical appearance which is a requirement o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:51 PM
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I’m completely fine with me. I’m content with everything I’ve accomplished and love who I am. You’re not going to change that despite trying. I control what I can do individually. What I’m not secure about is others decision making ability. I cannot control the illogical thoughts and poor decisions of others. You cannot simply get any woman you want because of confidence. The most confident man in the world will get rejected. You cannot make women say yes. You cannot be every woman’s type. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:53 AM
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There’s nothing wrong about telling you women want to date physically attractive men. It’s common sense which would require you to get off Reddit and leave your basement to understand. Have you ever spoken to a woman before? What do they tell you? “I love these ugly fat short men because they are confident”. That’s not how reality works. If you have average looks you might attract average women. If you have above average looks it’s irrelevant to anything I’ve said. Your anecdote proves nothing. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:39 AM
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This is exactly what pisses me off. 🤣 People don’t even know what side they’re on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 12:48 AM
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Oh no they are still saying this shit in 2025. Look at these comments from today. They tell you everything about the level of intelligence/delusion of the people here: Maybe you live in a city with ugly people? I live in a university town, so my demographic of women is young and pretty, what can I say? And yes, if I step outside, I will 100% see ugly ass dudes with attractive women walking beside them. It's literally just charisma, confidence, and how you make them subjectively feel. Comment 2: …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:40 PM
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You don’t “get far”. Unattractive men can get other unattractive women. I literally just told you this and you said it was incorrect and that ugly men date attractive women. Ugly men compensate by dating ugly women. The fuck don’t you understand? No one cares that you saw one unattractive guy get lucky. You can’t pretend that it’s common because you’ve seen it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:31 PM
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This sub is a great example of why. There are several people here saying that confidence and charisma will allow fat short and ugly men to land attractive women. Some men actually still believe this. So they think they can walk into any bar with the most attractive women and pull because they are confident. It’s not going to happen 99% of the time but they don’t know this or think they will be the 1% who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:15 PM
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No, there are plenty of attractive and unattractive people. They rarely mix to date. A very large majority of attractive women want and date attractive men. You don’t walk outside and see all ugly men with attractive women while attractive men are all sitting alone. Are we really still pushing looks don’t matter in 2025? Holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:01 PM
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You do not choose good people you choose attractive people. You’ve said it. This does not change your attractiveness. Making the world a better place does not make you attractive. You can lie, deceive, and treat others as an object yet still be successful in dating if you are seen as attractive, confident, and high status. You can be honest, good willed and kind yet seen as unattractive and fail in dating. This is why I say there are no morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:56 PM
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This is exactly why I brought up IG models. The women “charisma” will get fat unattractive men is other fat unattractive women. Attractive women want attractive men. It’s not hard to understand. What do you think is happening at Walmart. There are a bunch of fat men waking around with gorgeous women? Lmaoo yeah you definitely know what’s happening outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:47 PM
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Will land you other fat and ugly women with no options. I said this helps men who already have the proper genetics and physical appearance. Fat men have the appropriate physical traits for fat women with no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:24 PM
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Another blue pilled fantasy I’ve seen only on Reddit and never once in reality. A bum who is 5’5 and overweight is going to get overwhelmingly negative reactions from being assertive with attractive women. International models have multiple men who are also confident but tall, attractive, and wealthy to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:12 PM
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If a woman sees you and determines you do not pass what she finds physically attractive none of this matters as she does not care. A 6 dating a 7 because of high social status is not some incredible achievement. He passed her looks threshold. If her threshold cuts off at 5 those men will not be doing the same and will never get the chance. There isn’t going to be a drastic difference if a man is punching above his class.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:03 PM
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Again with the Walmart meme. Fat ugly guys at Walmart are with fat ugly women because those fat ugly women can’t do any better and these men pass the physical appearance bar that is extremely low for these women. These fat ugly men aren’t walking around Walmart with IG models because of their charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:53 PM
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Because that’s what you experience. Not what you choose to join. Women don’t say oh he’s a great guy so I will date him even though he’s not attractive. They say that guy may be an asshole but he’s dominant and hot. Morals are not involved in attraction and dating. Fairness is not involved. People will use you when they get the chance and ignore you if you’re not attractive. What morals are you choosing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:50 PM
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No, this is what unattractive blue pilled men say. You aren’t going to reach the level of “supremacy” in other attributes required to do that. The few rich or high status men can negotiate transactional relationships. Not attraction. You don’t offset below par looks. You match with sub par women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:44 PM
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Logically you cannot say as a neurodivergent it’s possible to be above average and possible to be below average yet impossible to be average. This is why subjective terms like extroverted and neurotypical which cannot be measured cant be used in determining if men are average. People are just creating several different ways of being average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:36 PM
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No, they don’t. They help men who already have the proper genetics and physical appearance. This is what unattractive blue pilled men say. This doesn’t make ugly men suddenly attractive. They don’t change your physical appearance which is a requirement of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:29 PM
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Then how is this information going to help anyone? Knowing this or not is not going to change that problem. How does this change anything he’s said? If women are inconsistent on what they want the person realizing this may not be anything they want. That doesn’t mean he’s wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:24 PM
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So you have said you can be above average and neurodivergent correct? So no, he doesn't become below average because he's not neurotypical, if anything he's above average. But you are saying it’s not possible to be average and neurodivergent?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:07 PM
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It’s not as simple or clear cut as you’re making it out to be. It’s not just “be balanced” or just have both. It’s a constant balancing act of deciding when to be something like masculine or feminine with inconsistent requirements that are never defined. Today she wants you to be dominant in picking what to eat and the next day she doesn’t. She doesn’t know why she just expects you to do it correctly according to her very specific terms. It’s a random guessing game until you eventually guess wro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:58 PM
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The divorce rate tells you it does not. A slight majority is not good..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:46 PM
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I’d drop confidence, assertiveness, and competence down to only in someone they are attracted to also. I’m on the verge of putting charisma there too. A guy who is confident and assertive towards women who think he’s unattractive will most always end badly for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:40 PM
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If it is possible to be above average and neurodivergent can’t you also be average and neurodivergent?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:59 PM
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If a guy is tall in shape and has a good income and education is he now below average if he is not neurotypical?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:26 PM
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Until I can define the average extroversion for a man is ____ I can’t determine what the average man is. I cannot put a number or measurement on extroversion so I don’t know how this is quantifiable or defined to determine what level of this is accepted as average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 05:16 PM
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Exhibit what? I have no idea what tendencies you think qualify people as having these “defects” and I have no idea how you’re measuring what level it’s on and what level of each is average. You’ve also said men can have good measurables across the board but having just one of these defects now erases everything and drops his overall score to below average? If these are going to be weighted so heavily they should surely be measurable and explicitly defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:21 PM
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And? What’s the issue? When people start dating they realize quickly that morals no longer are at play. They experience cheating, manipulation, and being left for the next without anyone giving a shit. Eventually they’re going to start playing the game just as dirty. There are no morals in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:12 PM
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How are you measuring extroversion and using it in the ranking of men? Does being extroverted now determine if a man is above average?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:47 PM
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That’s not measurable unless you have a diagnosed disorder. You cannot call a man below average only because you think he’s “high inhibition” or “neurotic”. In what way are you determining a man to be below average by something such as anxiety which most everyone faces? What level of neuroticism, inhibition, or neurodivergence is average and how is this measured?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:39 PM
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This is such a weird obsession with trying to paint the world as some fairy tale where everyone gets what they want. Virginity is irrelevant. No one believes most men or average men are virgins. You’re vaguely using “majority” of men having sex 2-3 times per month when you know there is a significant percentage of men who aren’t which is why you listed no numbers. The median man found a desperate fat wife who he luckily ran into in a shared environment like college or swiped a million times on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:30 PM
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The op says 5’9 average looks 50k income. All measurable and provable attributes which that comment said were all met. This is the problem. You can become average or even above average in every measurable way and still fail yet no one can explain it other than “gut instinct” or “no spark”. So yes, you can have zero romantic interest and be very average. If not then no 5’9 average look 50 income earning man would be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:03 PM
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My previous comments don’t dispel all anything I’ve said. Do you think you spouting random garbage does anything? This conversation is pointless as you’ve jumped in with no point or response to anything I’ve said and I’ve embarrassed you just as o did to her. You walk away with this having proved absolutely nothing. It’s not about what I think I’m telling you what I know and it’s that you have no intellectual response to anything I’ve said so you spam “obtuse” just as a predicted you would and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 11:29 PM
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I wasn’t talking to you in the first place. I replied to a specific contradiction which that person refused to address because they knew I was right. I don’t care what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:52 PM
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Another irrelevant comment. If men dressing proactively make you feel “icky” don’t try to pretend you don’t mind. There is nothing to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:34 PM
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She had no answer because I’m correct. This isn’t a question. Her response: Did you read the entire comment? I explained. cause me pause How the fuck is “cause me pause” and explanation of anything? The answer is she does mind and prefers not to see it. The whole I don’t mind act is to pretend she’s ok with anything others wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:43 PM
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That’s a completely different scenario than the topic of men wearing revealing clothing in public. And if you ask a woman if she prefers to have to bathe a man or not bathe him she will prefer not to have to do so. When it comes to men wearing revealing clothing in public if that makes you feel icky as she said you have an issue with it. Nothing was said about personal space or needing to complete a task that involves it. Just say you don’t want to see it and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:41 PM
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It means you’re full of shit and trying to play both sides. The reality is you do mind and you don’t want to see it. End of discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:37 PM
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You’re not about to change what you said either. You said it makes you feel like icky. If something makes you feel icky it bothers you. You mind. You don’t want to see it. If a stranger touches you they didn’t harm you either. By your logic you don’t mind. I don’t mind does not mean didn’t harm me. It means you don’t like it and don’t want to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:27 PM
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Proximity was not mentioned at all in the comment and is a poor excuse anyway. If men are in public they have the potential to come close to you. Just admit you have an issue with it and prefer men don’t do this so you don’t have to worry about that possibility. But if we use your logic then men are justified to have an issue with women’s outfits if these women are near his personal space.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:11 PM
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You still can’t understand this does not save you. Repeating your comment does nothing. Something causing you to pause does not equate to feeling “icky”. You can pause out of pure curiosity. If something makes you feel “icky” you mind. You don’t want it to happen. You don’t simply pause and say it’s completely fine for them to do. A stranger touching you makes you feel “icky”. You aren’t perfectly fine with them doing this and you do mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:04 PM
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Avoiding having to respond again. I don’t mind and “it makes feel icky” are contradictory statements. It’s either one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:53 PM
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You don’t have an answer and it’s because you’re full of shit and I know why. You do mind. You mind to the point you’ve slipped to admit you feel “icky” because of it. You don’t want to see it. No one does. If you admit this bothers you then you’re now just like the men who have an issue with what women wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:52 PM
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I’m not asking you or her to understand anything. The bitter women here would be the last people id ask for anything. You wouldn’t know. What I did was make a statement. “I don’t mind” and “makes me feel icky” are conflicting statements. If something makes you feel icky you mind. You prefer not to see it. It’s actually me who is explaining basic English to you. But like her, you’re going to make petty insults and do your little name calling to avoid having to make an intellectual response which …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:43 PM
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You’re still struggling to follow… I don’t mind and “it makes feel icky” are contradictory statements. It’s either one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:29 PM
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Do I actually have to tell you the correct English is “cause me to pause” or “causes me to pause”. I have to explain to you that the fucking word “to” is? You still have no answer and you think repeating your broken English will get you out of this. I don’t mind and “it makes feel icky” are contradictory statements. It’s either one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:20 PM
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Yes a typo is broken English. Which is why you don’t repeat it. Spam calling people obtuse doesn’t save you either. It’s admission of defeat. Again. I don’t mind and “it makes feel icky” are contradictory statements. It’s either one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:09 PM
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The person arguing “cause me pause” is correct English is calling me obtuse…. What normal person would do is admit to your typo and fix it yet you use it again and try to justify it. That’s hilarious. What’s even more hilarious is that you thought that would distract from the topic of you making contradictory statements that you can’t address. And no, repeating “cause me pause” does not answer anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:55 PM
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Neither one of you can answer a simple question I posed. Very smart of you to jump into a losing battle. I can tell this isn’t your first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:25 PM
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That’s broken English and it’s irrelevant. I don’t mind and “it makes feel icky” are contradictory statements. It’s either one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:15 PM
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You said you don’t mind and then you said it makes you feel icky. Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:03 PM
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Most men do struggle by facing frequent rejection and settle with what they can get. What you have is men settling with fat or ran through women with issues sitting back and saying I won I’m not struggling. If you have a room of people and you hear everyone had a meal last night you say no one is struggling and there is no issue with hunger because everyone ate. Not realizing half of them dug in the garbage for scraps just to say they ate. Your “majority of men have sex” does not solve anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 05:48 PM
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This would explain the Reddit lies. She explained the other types.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 08:13 PM
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Damn this completely shut down that comment. Maybe the correct term would be that they want to appear kind. It’s done to help their image and also could be for their safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 08:12 PM
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Then autism isn’t the blame here. It doesn’t make you aggressive and you can be aggressive without it or passive with it. You’ve just said you know autistic people that don’t cause you problems so where is the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:56 AM
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Oh you do speak for all of them if they were all honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 09:08 PM
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You cannot mitigate what you do not control. This is not a choice. This is as if someone told you to become a billionaire then said others have done it why can’t you? You could improve your income, but you realistically aren’t going to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:54 PM
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What makes you have an image of neurodivergent men being this super aggressive and confident approach everyone type of guy? Threatening is the last thing I’d think to describe this as. I’ve always seen this as being more quiet and reserved but just seen as “awkward” by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 01:22 PM
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The only constant I’ve heard is: Do what I want you to do and act how I want you to act without me communicating or explaining either. The most consistent definition available.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:32 PM
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Looking at this thread you have nothing but kindness, empathy, and understanding when women reply that they do in fact have a cleaning plan or schedule. Yet when men replied to you about this you have belittling and negative responses such as: You need a schedule to clean? You can't just look at a mess and go "Okay, time to clean this? Night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:26 PM
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So it’s ok to do what you want as long as you think it’s justified right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:20 PM
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You’re portraying the perfect scenario of the most kind woman happy being single. This is not realistically what happens. The women saying no men are attractive or good enough for them are not the angels you portray. They are hateful and bitter, towards men at least. There is a difference between them and women who understand they cannot handle a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:38 PM
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There is a difference between not dating because you aren’t able to handle a relationship and not dating because no man is good enough for you. This behavior should not be encouraged because if it catches on enough to be done on a large scale it will be a negative for everyone. These types will be hateful and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:49 PM
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And this is the issue. When your standards are so high that no man you encounter can reach them they’re unrealistic. They’re a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:50 PM
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The average man isn’t always the winner. If you’re saying only the top men who are proven and flourishing in any environment are found attractive then the average men who are just getting by are not. This sounds more red pill than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:42 PM
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In what way is another woman’s decision my fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:13 PM
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But that is what this is about. The fact that they don’t care about him being a good person, they care about “fun to be around” aka status and being physically attractive. This is his point. When you only care about out “fun” and skip well settled guys you will get some bad guys who treat you poorly because being well settled wasn’t a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:44 PM
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This is a horrible and non practical excuse. You had casual sex because you wanted fast, convenient, low effort sex. Just like men do. Let’s use your logic again. Men are totally fine to buy sex because they were at the brothel. They were home before then and will be going home after but while they were there it was more convenient to do it with a sex worker instead so totally ok and not mental gymnastics to justify their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:23 PM
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If you had the same urges you would be having one night stands at parties. You don’t pay because you don’t have to. You can walk into a bar and it will be offered to you which you’ve already admitted to doing. I do t have ever excuse shit there’s nothing wrong with do my anything I’ve said. The problem is you being hypocritical saying you can go get fast, easy, convenient, low effort sex while demonizing men for doing the same. You have urges just like anyone else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:17 PM
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Then this has nothing to do with a guy who “needs sex that badly”. You clearly have the same urges and show the same tendencies in choosing the most convenient, quick, and low effort ways to find sex. The difference is women can solve this by casual sex while men do not always have this option. If a man wants fast convenient sex he would have to pay. When women want it they have a one night stand. Both men and women want fast convenient sex but must access it in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:06 PM
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You’re calling men pathetic for needing sex so badly. Again you needed it so badly you couldn’t wait until you got home? You never spent money because as a woman you have the advantage of not having to and can get it immediately. Men were not born with this luxury. Again how are men pathetic for having sexual urges and wanting to fulfill them just like you do? Because they can’t consistently solve this by finding a random at a party like you can?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:53 PM
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You just said convenience, being in the mood, and there being another person available. Those are the exact reasons men pay. It’s the only way most of them can replicate the same thing you’ve done. By your logic you’re pathetic for needing sex so badly you had to resort to a random at a party. The only reason you have this ability is because you are a female. If you had these same urges as a man you would need to pay to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:38 PM
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All men want to be with women who want them. That does mean they will get it. There is a difference between what men want and what is possible to get. No man wants to be doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:22 PM
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Then you’ve just done the same thing these men have. They paid for sex because it was convenient and there was a woman available. Exactly as you admitted to doing. Do you need to be asked why you needed sex so badly you had to pick up a guy from a party as you asked them? It’s the same reason masturbation wasn’t sufficient for you. Men don’t have the option to walk in any party and pick someone to leave with like you do. Paying is their equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:16 PM
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I am just addressing the question of why. Not going into if it is justified. The why is because of that urgency and lack of opportunity. Once you finally get a relationship with someone you want as a man you recognize how rare it is to have and how difficult it will be to ever find again. At that point it’s do anything necessary to keep her. You want to be with someone you love and are highly attracted to. Once you get the woman of your dreams and she suddenly says she hates men who watch porn, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:21 PM
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You have options purely based on being a woman and flexing like anyone gives a shit. Congrats you’ve done nothing. You’ve just stated it’s a red flag for men to judge you based on your past so no, they can’t judge you however they want. Men wanting a morally sound woman does not make them insecure or repressed. Most do. Just because they put up with it to have a relationship does not mean they want to put up with it. The worst part is you’re calling men insecure for doing the exact same thing yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:21 PM
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Pretty naive of them to do if it’s an issue. But I’m not asking if they think he would have done it. I’m asking if he did do it would there be an issue since according to them judging the past is insecure. Which online is always yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 06:38 PM
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Because it’s not as simple as go find someone compatible. Most men do not have the large variety of options like women do. There isn’t a luxury to fall back on. It’s the pressure of make this happen now or it will be months or years before you ever get another opportunity like this for a relationship. Men are going to do everything and anything they can to make the relationship happen right then in the short window that’s available.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 06:25 PM
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This is the exact hypocrisy I intended to highlight. Anything he’s done in the past is equivalent. That’s what the topic is. Being judged on past actions. You don’t get to manipulate which past actions are allowed to be judged based on what’s favorable to you and excludes only actions you’ve done. What’s you’ve just said is don’t judge me for my past but I can judge you for yours. If you don’t want to be judged by your past don’t judge a man by his. If you have an issue with his past then you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 05:59 PM
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We’ve already gotten to the point you are now questioning his past which according to her is insecure and a red flag. According to her men don’t even ask about her past so nothing that happened matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:16 PM
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No, it’s an exact replica. I didn’t say anything about virgins. Literally the opposite. I said you would marry a man who has paid for escorts in the past. Since it would make you insecure about his past to consider this a problem and would be a red flag if you cared to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:50 PM
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Oh really so you will marry a man that’s used escorts in the past. That’s actually noble of you to stay consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:21 PM
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That’s the problem with what you’re saying. Wanting a genuine connection does not make a man stand out in any meaningful way. You will still get ghosted, rejected, and ignored like the others even if you do match and have a conversation. You’re saying If it was 100 matches of decent dudes who genuinely wanted a connection that would be amazing. But that’s not reality But when you have hundreds of not thousands of matches you do have plenty of guys who want a connection. So this is not the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:17 PM
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Then this has nothing to do with being a decent guy or looking for connections. That will solve nothing. The only thing that matters is if you stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:47 PM
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You’re saying If it was 100 matches of decent dudes who genuinely wanted a connection that would be amazing. But that’s not reality There are always decent guys who want connection and many of them will be in those matches, so you do have them available. They’re still mostly ignored even when they do get a conversation. They aren’t getting treated any better because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:20 PM
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This is the typical internet summary of what women portray online dating as but it’s a misrepresentation of what’s actually happening. You’re talking as if every guy you’ve matched with is some asshole immediately asking if you’re dtf and insulting you if you say no. Then speak of how amazing it would be if guys wanted a connection. Now what about those decent guys who actually do want a connection that supposedly don’t exist? They still get ignored, rejected, and ghosted. If you want to text a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:01 PM
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I’ll continue to point out how wrong you are until you know it. The worst part is you won’t learn anything. That’s why you think unstable people who are constantly moving from place to place are better at making long term decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:12 PM
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You have no response and you’re avoiding the actual topic because you are wrong and I’ve outlined in detail why. You lashed out and immediately resorted to petty insults because you’re embarrassed about being wrong and mad that someone has pointed this out. You aren’t built for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:46 PM
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You have zero response to anything I’ve said and didn’t ever try to defend what you said. You made a weak argument that I destroyed and addressed nothing because you know how poor your logic is. Your response is to flex your Reddit karma which actually points to being even more pathetic. Don’t come to a debate sub with poor logic and get mad when you get called out. Every one of your responses have been petty little insults completely avoiding the actual topic at hand. If you weren’t offended yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:54 PM
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I can tell you feel embarrassed after I’ve destroyed your poor logic and you have no response. It’s a shame people like you think you can even participate in debates at all. Just spouting bullshit about topics you know nothing about and then gets furious when your broken logic is exposed. Everyone has experience with this, it’s not the flex you think it is. We just aren’t completely oblivious like you are. Let’s use common sense. Who’s more capable of making a long term decision and staying in o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:23 PM
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Every analogy here makes you worse at finding long term decisions. His logic is sound. If you are moving between apartments every year and can’t stay in one space you’ve now become accustomed to constantly moving. When you stay in one place for too long you want a change of scenery. That’s why you’ve behaved this way in the first place. When you choose a place to meet your needs you only think short term. You don’t know how to consider long term investments because you’ve never made one. These a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:32 PM
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You specifically said this was about attraction. What I'm pointing out is how the manosphere gets upset about women not being attracted to them, and here's a redpiller straight up admitting he doesn't want to bang ugly girls despite being oh so lonely, when if the genders were reversed, he'd have zero sympathy for a woman in his situation. Also women don’t want to date men they don’t find attractive. What men would like is if women were attracted to a large variety of men the same way men are at…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:59 AM
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It’s called common sense. If you know any women you know they are attracted to a small number of men. You’ve had plenty of women here say they are not attracted to most men. Men consider a large amount of women attractive. Women are more picky. Did we not all know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:47 AM
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Like most men he will find a small percentage of women ugly and a large percentage attractive. Women will find a large majority of men unattractive while a small percentage is attractive. You can be an average guy and be found unattractive by most women. Average women are treated as royalty. It’s just a non issue for most women and applies to far more men. If the women who are deemed ugly are upset they have every right to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:05 AM
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Per usual you all continue to omit the most important traits needed to sound less superficial. You cannot simply have a hobby as a man. He is pointing out that you must be dominant, highly successful, a leader, and display all of this for said hobby. You cannot simply have a personality and be who you are unless you can display dominance over others, success, and leadership over a group. On top of all of this you must be dominating something that is of interest to women. If you have skills in so…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 06:29 PM
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We’ve heard over and over again how women make more now. How they don’t need a man’s money. They don’t care about a man providing. What you’re suggesting will not work. If you are deemed unattractive, money will not make you attractive. You’ve already admitted this. Money does not fix physical attributes. Those are genetic. If women don’t need men for survival, now they can focus on physical attributes, as women are the drivers of natural selection. So their physical preferences go up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:05 PM
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In college… This is one of the very last few good environments to find dating opportunities. Past that it’s dating apps or cold approach if you want something beyond those college friends. Finding relationships or even friends for that matter becomes a lot more difficult after that point where you don’t have free time to chat all day on campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:40 PM
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Great breakdown. If this isn’t ignored I’d anticipate the response to be some claim of how their husbands have only pulled the positives of each side by having extroversion with no negative behavior while also having the caution and awareness of introverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:20 PM
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Im pasting the same thing genius. A quote of your comment. This is your comment.. women require the feeling of authentic connection, it is literally an evolutionary strategy. autistic women get into evolutionarily poor relationships that would have been extremely dangerous to them in the past and we dont really have kids so who cares, uts still a dead end for women and autistic women are failures and lovers to WOMEN, just like men are. autism seems to chiefly inhibit the ability to deal with wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:13 AM
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How do you think this works? You can act disgusting and not get it back in return? You’ll get treated exactly how you act. The reason it’s not continuing is because you’ve been embarrassed and have no answers. This is your comment.. women require the feeling of authentic connection, it is literally an evolutionary strategy. autistic women get into evolutionarily poor relationships that would have been extremely dangerous to them in the past and we dont really have kids so who cares, uts still a …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:40 PM
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This is your comment.. women require the feeling of authentic connection, it is literally an evolutionary strategy. autistic women get into evolutionarily poor relationships that would have been extremely dangerous to them in the past and we dont really have kids so who cares, uts still a dead end for women and autistic women are failures and lovers to WOMEN, just like men are. autism seems to chiefly inhibit the ability to deal with women imo, in male or female autists Tell us about how you’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:18 PM
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You lost. Stop lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:06 PM
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I literally quoted your comment to what you didn’t say. Then you started to talk shit because of made you feel stupid. Your arguments are so weak you ran because you know you can’t defend any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:35 PM
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Don’t start shit that you can’t finish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:14 PM
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Aww you don’t like it when you realize you are the person you’ve been talking down to this whole time do you? It’s hilarious that so many of you here think you can deny what you’ve said when the comments are directly above you lying. women require the feeling of authentic connection, it is literally an evolutionary strategy. autistic women get into evolutionarily poor relationships that would have been extremely dangerous to them in the past You want to talk shit about how bad these people are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:55 PM
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I know it isn’t what works. But this is why I do not say things like getting in shape and being in a great financial health will do way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:13 PM
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The mystery is why you as one of these people are saying all of these terrible things about this group. They can’t form connections they are failures. Like these people aren’t human. Is that what you think you are? That you’re in a poor relationship with a bad outcome?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:09 PM
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I really wish this were actually true. Unfortunately if women don’t like you all this will do will turn you into a buff guy with money that’s still alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:55 PM
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Right but women are never going to say or admit actually this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:48 PM
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You say this applies to you. Are you not married or in a relationship? Are you saying you aren’t capable of establishing a connection and should not be loved because of it? If you can then we can see that women are overreacting here and can overlook this just as men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:26 PM
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This is not the whole story. There are some extreme cases where there is an obvious issue that repels other people. That does not mean we can throw everyone who has dating issues in this bucket. Those quiet ones you mentioned who aren’t ignorantly oblivious do not do just fine and leave with women by their side as you said they do. It’s ew he’s quiet ew he’s awkward. They aren’t dangerous but this won’t save them with relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:19 PM
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So you have this yet you are still married or in a relationship aren’t you? What it’s expected to be is a roadblock, not a complete destruction of any hint of a chance you had. What problem have you had being in a relationship? It’s not that bad of a problem if you and most women who have this have men who overlook it. Everyone has issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:10 PM
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Where are all of the blue pill swearing 80 20 isn’t true? Here we’ve learned only 10% are attractive. But no continue to ignore this and later tell us how this isn’t true and no one says this. Thanks for being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:29 PM
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This is a gendered issue. You can enhance your physical appearance to boost your advantage in men’s attraction. Women are largely attracted to genetic traits and status. Men can use all the effort they want and still fail if the genetics and status aren’t there. Low effort men can succeed if they do have the genetics and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:23 PM
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The thing is you have plenty of water around in a swamp. You will find some drinkable water and not have to stress too much over it. In a desert you have nothing and there is no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:14 PM
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This is the type of discussion this sub should be getting to. You’ve given an actual real response and not just telling people to get a “personality”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 11:24 PM
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I still don’t know what the details are. Why is she enjoying the company? What is being done to make this considered stiff and awkward ? What are these guys you say are undesirable because they are creepy, weird, and awkward supposed to be doing differently? I’m glad you’ve went further and understand it’s not “just be a good person” but just be fun is almost bordering the same line.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 07:41 PM
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What qualifies a “fun” date?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 06:58 PM
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This would be common sense if you weren’t on Reddit 24/7. The op is correct. Being misogynistic is completely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:47 PM
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Reddit comments aren’t real life. This isn’t being said to women outside of rare circumstances. Even if it was, the tall attractive extrovert can say this and still attract women because he’s “fun to be around”. The “boring” awkward unattractive quiet introvert is still unattractive regardless. This does not matter. These views are a result of constant rejection, not a cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:37 PM
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That’s not how any of this works. There are not masses or men “uncontrollably” shouting hateful things which push women away. Barely any men at all will shout anything. These views are a result of men who have been deemed awkward and unattractive after constant rejection. This is not a cause of anything. If you are deemed as fun to be around (attractive) by women you will succeed in dating, misogynistic or not. If you are deemed as awkward (unattractive) by women you will fail in dating, misogyn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:25 PM
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Not sure how you missed the point. This has nothing to do with being misogynistic. There is no reason to associate it to causing failure with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:05 PM
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If you are deemed as fun to be around (attractive) by women you will succeed in dating, misogynistic or not. If you are deemed as awkward (unattractive) by women you will fail in dating, misogynistic or not. It’s irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:30 PM
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That’s not a solution. Being better means nothing when the final answer is still no. When you actually become an athlete and get in shape you’ll realize there’s nothing stopping women from picking someone who’s in worse shape than you and nothing to make them give a shit if you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 07:43 PM
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You’re only thinking of this from the perspective of a woman thinking it works that way for everyone. Doing all of this can improve results from YOUR attractiveness and help to a greater degree since men are not as picky. Men can improve all of this and still see little to no dating results from their improvement. In a way you’re proving ops point. Men can do all of this and still fail because most of their attractiveness is outside of their control. You’re rejecting this thought by saying oh th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:22 PM
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That’s not a solution. The gym does not fix genetics or status. I could tell any woman I could out-lift you in any lift and not one would give a shit or date me because of it. Been there and done that. This applies to a small subset of genetically gifted men who are naturally attractive but lazy and know nothing about fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:19 PM
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What is supposed to be offered that supposedly no man has that everyone allowed in your life must be doing for you? If a man makes more than you and is educated that means he offers you something? I agree men should pay for relationships. But women will not always accept this as it’s seen in a bad light by society when you do it openly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:14 AM
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Yes women have a lower sex drive due to their biology. These are not choices that men make. It’s not about being in the bottom 80% it’s about most men being poisoned by the red pill and PUA community Rather than asking why women don’t want certain men ask why should women bother being with those men. The point is men can ask women a million times. You won’t be able to solve this issue if they are in the bottom percentage of looks and status. It is about being in the bottom percentage and it’s no…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 08:36 PM
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You’ve got to step down off your high horse. You offer the same thing that they do and you can be a headache as well. We also know women are far more demanding in relationships as they have higher standards and are more picky. Again you said men don’t ask women why they don’t want them. They do. There is no solution given. If they aren’t attracted they aren’t attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 08:09 PM
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Sadly it is about being in the bottom %. Men who have struggled in any capacity have already asked why. Not you or any woman has an answer. “Just be nice and treat us as people”. “Do chores” This doesn’t make women who find you unattractive change their mind. If they deem you as unattractive that’s it. Women get the same thing that men get out of relationships. This is about looks and status. You cannot solve this problem by men asking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:01 PM
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”of only AVERAGE standard.” Oxford I’m not holding your hand to teach you how to use a dictionary. I’ve taught you plenty already. I can’t get anymore simple than that. If you aren’t capable of understanding this you aren’t on a level high enough to have this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:49 PM
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Oh it’s quite obvious this isn’t your first language. No one said it meant good. It means in the MIDDLE. Not good not bad. What you don’t realize is this is pointless. Talk to Oxford about it not me. Below average men don’t impress women. Average men do not impress women. It doesn’t matter how you put it. Most women aren’t attracted to them. They settle because they know they can’t get the men they truly deserve. I’ve educated you on a variety of topics here but you’ve chosen to waste the knowle…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:31 PM
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Oh you want the whole Oxford definition? “of only AVERAGE standard.” Read it again what Oxford says the definition of mediocre is “of only AVERAGE standard.” Why would you bring that up when it shows your lack of intelligence? Not very good does not mean below average. Mediocre means not very good and also not bad. It means in the middle. Are you joking or did you actually think you did something?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:19 PM
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Of only moderate quality - Oxford Ordinary, Moderate OR low quality. (That means both are included) - Webster This means neither good nor bad. This is basic fucking sense. That’s why average is one of the most common synonyms. You didn’t quote shit. You picked random words that you thought could pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:04 PM
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Again I said average is one of the most common synonyms. If you looked you’ve seen it. Are you that clueless you don’t know how to find a dictionary? Do I have to teach you how to find one? Do you not understand what look at any of them means?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:46 PM
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Any fucking dictionary you find will have average somewhere do you not know how to perform a search on the internet? I’m not here to teach you what basic words mean. I didn’t claim you said anything other than what I directly quoted. What I listed is what I’ve educated you on that you should have learned from this. Seeing that you can’t figure out the definition of one word you haven’t picked up any of that or that those are not what I’ve claimed you said. It’s what you should have learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:41 PM
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I quoted you directly multiple times. You cannot name one thing you didn’t say. You don’t know what the word mediocre means and you don’t know how to look it up. You don’t know how to find a dictionary or research the definition of a word. Read the comment above. I’ve given you good information for you to learn about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:27 PM
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I know what it means already. If you’ve actually looked you’ve seen average there. It’s not an opinion. Now you’ve learned many things from this post. You support the red pill. Average men do not impress women. Average men can still stumble into a relationship out of luck despite not being impressive although the relationship will probably turn sour because women don’t truly desire him. The things that do impress women are largely superficial and genetic. It’s an overall negative impact to socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:14 PM
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Poor? Worthless? Now you’re lying. They aren’t even close. Did you actually think that was going to work? The funniest part is average would be one of the first words you see as synonyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:00 PM
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What you listed is completely wrong and can be proven by you using a dictionary. I just defined it for you. You don’t get to create the meaning of words. Learn the actual definition of the words you’re using. It’s not semantics it’s the literal definition of the word in the English language. I’ve corrected you that this also applies to average men. Average men are not impressive. They are average. Using luck, convenience, and genetics to attract women one time is not impressive. But thanks for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:37 PM
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Mediocre is ordinary. Nothing spectacular. In the middle. Being able to “impress” women does not make a man any less inferior or worthless. Most average men do not. There is nothing impressive about them. They’re average. Impressive does not equal attractive either. You can have a PHD from Harvard and still be called ugly by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:19 PM
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The op is supporting red pill and so are you. You’ve admitted average men can’t impress women. That’s what mediocrity is. Average. That doesn’t mean they don’t luck into a relationship a few times. They will most likely be treated poorly, ditched, or cheated on with the men women truly desire. Yes you’re going to have a degrading society when most men aren’t “good enough” for women due to standards rising beyond capabilities over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:57 PM
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The op is supporting red pill and so are you. You’ve admitted average men can’t impress women. That’s what mediocrity is. Average. That doesn’t mean they don’t luck into a relationship a few times. They will most likely be treated poorly, ditched, or cheated on with the men women truly desire. Yes you’re going to have a degrading society when most men aren’t “good enough” for women due to standards rising beyond capabilities over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:57 PM
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You said mediocre men can’t impress women. That’s most men. Most men are not extraordinary. They are in the middle. Average. You did not say only the bottom end of men can’t impress women. I’ve quoted you multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:45 PM
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I don’t have to. Mediocre men not being able to impress women is 100% red pill. I literally quoted you word for word. It’s hilarious you’re calling an exact quote “putting words in your mouth.” Now we see what actually happens when women have choices. And this is a natural consequence of men not having the ability to impress women enough. I think religions and previous patriarchal systems had to oppress women into a role so that mediocre and below average men could get a partner despite it maybe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:32 PM
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I didn’t ask you shit. If it’s so clear why the fuck are you asking me if you said average men can’t impress women? You said mediocre AND below average. You’re not about to change what you said. What happened here is you found out you’re supporting the red pill and you’re trying to weasel out of what you said. You can’t. You’re telling me men aren’t handed wives yet 70-80% are in relationships. Apparently they still are being handed out according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:27 PM
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I literally just quoted you…. Directly. You just said men don’t have the ability to impress women. You just said mediocre men can only get a partner through “patriarchal systems”. Getting a relationship at one point is pure luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:12 PM
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You do Now we see what actually happens when women have choices. And this is a natural consequence of men not having the ability to impress women enough. I think religions and previous patriarchal systems had to oppress women into a role so that mediocre and below average men could get a partner despite it maybe being detrimental to the species. It was to keep men in control by the people in power at the expense of women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:42 PM
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Then you’re defending the red pill and admitting women don’t want average men and want the top percentage who “impress” them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:18 PM
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Women have complete control and power over the dating market and determine which men succeed and which men lead lives of isolation. Most of that 30% of women decided to live the way they do with the luxury of knowing they can change and find love at any time they want. It’s not a problem for them it’s a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:13 PM
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Because it pretty much is the only pool available unless you want to cold approach strangers which will still probably be that same pool. If it was that simple of go to church or CrossFit and be introduced to good women I’d be there daily but it just doesn’t work that way. There are very few single women even there period. Even if there is a woman in say CrossFit class. Majority of the time there you all are doing the activity and there are already 4-5 guys there pursuing her waiting for a chanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:06 PM
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This is the problem with women’s dating advice. They tell you what’s nice, not what’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:19 AM
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Yes this is a great point that is frequently ignored. This is why using kind or good to describe outgoing extroverts with large social networks is a boneheaded choice. These people do not have to be good or kind to accomplish this whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:55 AM
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Ok (can’t believe I have to explain this either). Non blue pill men already know this. What we don’t know is why you advise kindness to men who you supposedly understand are failing due to physical appearance. The problem is you and blue pill women’s solution to unattractive men’s dating problems is be kind. You will never straight up tell a man he’s getting rejected because he’s ugly. You can’t tell those deemed short, awkward, low status, or genetically disadvantaged by women to be kind. They’…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:52 AM
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It definitely made up for more in the past than it does now. I’m sure this plays a role in the lack of motivation in men today also. What’s the point in success if it doesn’t pay off?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:36 PM
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Not only this but wealth is meaningless unless it can be displayed and is visible in a way that benefits her. So it’s going to be spent rapidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:31 PM
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You said women pick men based on behavior. We say women pick men based on looks. These are 2 conflicting views. Looks are the most important factor. You will never admit this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:48 PM
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Now backtracking away from your comment. Liking attractive men is irrelevant of behavior. That’s the point. They like the looks not the behavior. That’s the point. Attractive men with bad behavior are still dating women because women prioritized looks over behavior. Not because women are tricked into thinking they are good men. These 2 things are not in agreement. You pick one deciding factor. You pick one most important factor. You don’t get to play both sides. The comment made it clear this de…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:35 AM
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Women aren't attracted to bad men. They are attracted to good looking men The point of the comment is that they are attracted to good looking men. They dated bad men because they had good looks. This means looks are the deciding factor. This is not you. Being good CAN make you attractive. Like all things, it’s not guaranteed. But average guys can go from average to smoking hot because of their personality. How do I know? Literally me and every single girl friend I’ve ever had. None of them are w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:53 AM
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Women aren't attracted to bad men. They are attracted to good looking men The point of the comment is that they are attracted to good looking men. They dated bad men because they had good looks. This means looks are the deciding factor. You won’t admit this. This is not you. Being good CAN make you attractive. Like all things, it’s not guaranteed. But average guys can go from average to smoking hot because of their personality. How do I know? Literally me and every single girl friend I’ve ever h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:52 AM
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Women aren't attracted to bad men. They are attracted to good looking men The point of the comment is that they are attracted to good looking men. This means looks are the deciding factor. You won’t admit this. This is not you. Being good CAN make you attractive. Like all things, it’s not guaranteed. But average guys can go from average to smoking hot because of their personality. How do I know? Literally me and every single girl friend I’ve ever had. None of them are with hot guys. They’re all …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:50 AM
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Yes it is. You’ve already said women are attracted to good behavior over looks. This comment says women are attracted to good looks. It does not say good look that must be accompanied by good behavior. It does not say that men get away with it because they pretend to be good. It does not pretend that women date unattractive men because they are good. It states that looks are the deciding factor. You don’t. There is no reason to pretend you do. There is a reason you didn’t mention looks in your p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:56 AM
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Women aren't attracted to bad men. They are attracted to good looking men The point of the comment is that they are attracted to good looking men which you conveniently leave out. I also didn’t say that was your main point. It is something you said in the post that is not in agreement with that comment. You believe women are attracted to good. We believe women are attracted to looks. We are not on the same side.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:31 AM
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Yes that was the point of the comment. In short, women are attracted to looks. Not behavior. You’ve added in that this supports that women are attracted to good behavior. This is your addition. It also said bad men get away with it because they are attractive. Your post says they get away with it because they’ve deceived women into thinking they are good. Not because they are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:06 PM
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I know you said that. The comment did not. The comment did not say also attracted to men because they are good. You did. Which is why you aren’t in full agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 10:38 PM
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Practicing your response for that one day the woman who you defended comes around?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 09:43 PM
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No they matter. You embarrassingly jumped in thinking this was about whether or not entire group were assholes because you can’t comprehend basic discussion. I corrected you in what the topic actually was and now you don’t have shit to say. You never had a point to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 09:28 PM
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I love when I’ve destroyed someone so badly they no longer have an argument and resort to spamming garbage. Yes the one pointless piece you’ve picked out of the comment is not what’s being discussed. Once again pure genius. Let’s repeat: We’re not debating if it’s the entire group or not. It’s says women are attracted to good looking men, not bad men. Being good or bad is irrelevant. Good looks are what women are attracted to. Op admitted they believe women find men attractive because they are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 09:17 PM
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It’s irrelevant to the point. It was never once argued that’s it’s the whole group it what you can’t grasp. Admitting these show how pointless your comments were.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 09:06 PM
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They aren’t attracted to good behavior specifically. They are attracted to looks, not morality. It says women are attracted to men for looks. Not for being good. You are assuming this means women are also attracted to good behavior as you also believe. The only thing that’s stated they’re attracted to is looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 09:03 PM
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I don’t care if it says some. We’re not debating if it’s the entire group or not. It’s says women are attracted to good looking men, not bad men. Being good or bad is irrelevant. Good looks are what women are attracted to. Op admitted they believe women find men attractive because they are good and not because of good looks as the other commenter said. You are commenting for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:57 PM
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That’s what the comment says. Holy shit you can’t pick that up? Women are attracted to good looking men. It’s clearly states the good looking men who are assholes are still liked. No shit it’s not the entire group that’s not the argument genius. You jumped into a discussion you can’t even comprehend and had no point. The point is it’s saying women are attracted to good looks and don’t care if he’s a good or bad person. The op is not in agreement seeing that the believe women are attracted to men…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:44 PM
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Then you do not fully agree. This would mean women aren’t attracted to good looking men because of thier looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:36 PM
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They are attracted to good looking men, it just happens that some of these good looking men are bad/assholes because they can get away with it Try reading the fucking comment. She said she fully agrees. Her post shows she doesn’t and I laid that out. You clearly can’t follow and asking me to spoon feed it to you so you can understand. I’ve already done that and you still can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:27 PM
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It’s directly quoting the comment she replied to which is the topic being discussed… She’s saying she’s in full agreement with that. I said she’s not. The comment says women are attracted to looks regardless of good or bad personality. She is saying women are attracted to being good as a trait. Everything was laid out in the comments already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:07 PM
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Then you don’t agree. Being good does not make you attractive unfortunately. It’s a side bonus. Being dominant, tall, physically attractive, appearing to have high social status and know many people, appearing to be wealthy, appearing successful etc. attract women. You can be attractive with any combo of these without being good. You said women aren’t attracted to the bad in bad men but stopped short of admitting women aren’t attracted to the good in good men either. If you admitted that I’d put…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:32 PM
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Yes. Women are attracted to good looking men who are assholes and can get away with it. They get away with it by still attracting and dating women despite their poor characteristics. That means they got away with it because women accept it and will still date them. Women pursue attractive men. Not good men. You are opposing this if you think they need men to be good in addition to being physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:38 PM
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With that case I still don’t see this being in full agreement. With him saying women are attracted to looks and will accept whatever traits come with it good or bad. You agree to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:31 PM
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There is nothing fair about this. Reality is true, not fair. The majority of the requirements to be attractive are what you are born with and outside of your control. One person having to work. 10x harder to get a fraction of what someone else was born with and did nothing to gain is not fair in any world. You can call this real but this is in no way fair. Life is not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:01 PM
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In what way do you fully agree? You didn’t mention looks once in your post. You’re still pushing this idea that women want good men and only date bad men because they somehow tricked them. I don’t see you agreeing at all. His point is being good or bad doesn’t matter. Physical attraction does. Yours is women want good men and is based on personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 04:54 PM
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I’m not the one asking about it. You are. I answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:10 AM
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You are the one asking about it on this thread. Not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:27 AM
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I know. My point is these are not the people to be asking why they don’t understand that looks are important. They do. You are asking the men who already understand this instead of the women who push this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 11:28 PM
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I’m not asking you if women value looks. I already know this and if anyone says it they receive endless pushback here. I’ve seen “it’s not your looks it’s your personality” a million times. This is not a few women. You haven’t actually read this sub. I do not believe the women telling me personality is what matters. Most non blue pill men don’t either. So why tf are you asking the men who don’t believe this what they don’t understand? They do understand. It’s the women who don’t. If you have a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:39 PM
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When you do actually gain more than 2 brain cells you’ll realize its men who are saying looks matter and women claiming its personality. No men are asking you for help. No men are trying to argue that looks aren’t important unless they’re blue pill. Let me slow this down enough for you. Men are the ones who understand the importance of looks. They don’t need or want help to understand this. It’s women who argue otherwise. If you have a problem with people who believe this you can ask the women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:29 PM
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No shit. I clearly understand looks are most important. Can you not read I just said that? Most men who are not blue pill do. It’s women who claim otherwise. The point that flew over your head is you don’t say shit to the women peddling “personality” is the reason men fail at attracting women. Why don’t women here understand or even accept the fact that looks are the most importance part of attraction? That’s what your question should have been. I say this constantly and get nothing but bitching…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:04 PM
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Great. When men talk about struggling to attract women tell them it’s because of their looks and not their personality. When women tell them be kind and someone will come along correct them that this will not work because they are not attractive. Start admitting that unattractive men probably won’t find relationships regardless of how nice they are or how great their personality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 09:30 PM
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Wild guess here that you’re one of those women. That’s why you’re mad and now taking shit responding to a levelheaded response that embarrassed you. The way you all act here is so disgusting. You hate when the silent part is said out loud. I told you being likeable does not equate to sexual attraction. Attractiveness and status is what matters, these make you likeable to women. Likeable is also such a poor choice of terminology seeing that it’s too subjective to be used here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:43 PM
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Being hot makes you likeable. Being likeable doesn’t make you hot. The men who aren’t that attractive can possibly get relationships from women who can’t attract hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:49 PM
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You really just said people need to be more honest with you… YOU are those people. You don't have success with women because you're fucking unlikeable. No. This is wrong and dishonest. YOU said this. I said men don’t have success because of their looks and status. That’s not whining, that’s not complaining, that’s not being victim. That’s not asking you for shit. It’s a fucking statement that you never made and tried to argue against. You don't have success with women because you're fucking unli…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:06 PM
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You haven’t engaged on any points. Your response is you’re whining, ok?, you’re whining, this is embarrassing. You can’t defend anything you said because it’s wrong. That’s embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:08 PM
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Congratulations you’ve discovered common sense. Sorry to tell you that you’re not the only one to understand this. If 99 of 100 women reject you regardless of what you say that tells you looks are most important. What said was a response to a comment claiming success in attracting women is due to being likable. No it’s due to looks. On top of that most men are not going to start being completely ignorant immediately upon meeting a woman. This isn’t why men fail. You could have made any other cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:04 PM
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She’s not attracted to it therefore I don’t care. Men are concerned with how to get her attracted. What you’ve said is being unlikable to her could break her attraction. No one asked that and it changes nothing. What I said isn’t complicated: Women are not rejecting men because of them “blaming the world” as you’ve claimed. Being likable does not equate to sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:59 AM
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I’ve explained in detail why you’re wrong and you have no defense. Again who the fuck asked you for anything? Who told you of what should be fair? What made you think I give a shit about What you care about? Please answer any of those. I’m here to point out the poor logic of the bullshit you’re trying to pass off. Which did successfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:18 AM
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My response to bullshit virtue signaling is not helping you. Looks define attraction. You don't have success with women because you're fucking unlikeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:11 AM
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The 1 who is attracted to you isn’t simply because you’re likable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:08 AM
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You don't have success with women because you're fucking unlikeable. I never said being likeable equates to sexual attraction. There is no argument I’m telling you what you’ve said is wrong. You’re terrified of your just world fallacy breaking. “It has to be your personality. It has to!!11!1”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:07 AM
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You can’t loose what doesn’t exist. What women who think you’re unattractive will still think you’re unattractive whether you’re likable or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:34 PM
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The hilarious part is you can be quoted word for word of what you “didn’t say”. You don't have success with women because you're fucking unlikeable. I’ve proven this isn’t true. Being likable does not equate to sexual attraction. Therefore it does not determine your success with women. What’s even more hilarious is that I have to break down what you said so you can comprehend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:32 PM
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I’ve already engaged with everything you’ve stated and your only response was “whining”. I just told you. Ugly people in relationships are ugly. They aren’t attractive. They are in relationships out of convenience, proximity, luck, and desperation. Not because they are attractive. Women are not rejecting men because of them “blaming the world” as you’ve claimed. Being likable does not equate to sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:23 PM
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Let’s repeat to watch you try to weasel away again. You haven’t addressed anything. Who the fuck asked anyone for sympathy? No one asked you anything. I told you that you are wrong and outlined why. You have no defense to what you’ve said because you are. Men are rejected because of looks and social status. Not because of some bullshit just world fallacy of your attitude or blaming the world. Women aren’t attracted to physically unattractive men. They are attracted because of their looks. You’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:12 PM
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Avoiding the fact that you’ve just claimed women don’t like attractive men? You really think the internet defines any of this? They just report on it. When you actually observe behavior you would learn this naturally without touching an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:11 PM
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Proving you wrong on a topic YOU brought up is not whining. You all don’t even know how to use basic words anymore and spam this shit thinking it will get out of your poor argument. Try reading again. Who the fuck asked anyone for sympathy? No one asked you anything. I told you that you are wrong and outlined why. You have no defense to what you’ve said because you are. Men are rejected because of looks and social status. Not because of some bullshit just world fallacy of your attitude or blamin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:01 PM
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Claiming women don’t like physically attractive men. It’s actually incredible. Only on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:57 PM
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This is not “whining”. It’s a statement which proves everything you’ve said wrong in a topic you’ve brought up. Yes, it is because of looks. No, ugly people in relationships are not attractive. You’ve done the classic let’s call this whining because my points don’t stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:52 PM
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They like tall physically attractive men who display the image of high social status. Guys understand that. Learning what they like does not mean you can be what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:29 PM
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No one wants to date goblins period. They do if they can’t get any better. Being likable does not equate to being sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:21 PM
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Oh right women say "You are unattractive because you'd rather spend your time blaming the world for your bullshit and inability to find healthy coping mechanisms than finding a better way.“ in the 10 seconds needed to look at you to determine whether or not you’re fuckable…. Women aren’t attracted to physically unattractive men. They are attracted because of their looks. You’re terrified of saying this. Ugly people in relationships are ugly. They aren’t attractive. They are in relationships out …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:17 PM
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No one here has ever dated in a time where women “needed” men to survive. There is no adaptation. wtf is evolve a personality? And what have you have to do? Sit there and watch men continuously scramble to meet to you ever increasing standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:28 AM
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Now we’ve gone from I didn’t change it to I did because it’s appropriate. It’s called an analogy which demonstrates how broken your logic is. You don’t simply evolve past the biological need to eat or decide you don’t want to. You don’t evolve past the need for intimacy or social interaction. That’s great if you’re asexual and have no sex drive. Most others are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:04 AM
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I cannot stand liars. These are you comments one after the other. First literally says required for you to be happy. Next you say You do not require sex to live. Your logic is broken because you can live without social interaction period and that does not mean you will be ok never having it. Men need to evolve. If regular sex is REQUIRED for you to be happy, you should try to figure out why, because that's not ideal. It absolutely is not biological. If that were the case, it would be true for ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:54 PM
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YOU changed happy into “necessary to live”. Nothing is out of context. You don’t have an answer. Men need to evolve. If regular sex is REQUIRED for you to be happy, you should try to figure out why, because that's not ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:04 PM
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Men and women have different biology. You don’t have the same level of testosterone. That is not opinion. What you need to live is irrelevant and a poor overused excuse. You don’t need social interaction to live. So completely stop interacting with everyone. Use your same logic to evolve past it. Majority of people need some type of romantic intimacy to be happy and content. This is more severe for men who factually have more testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:44 PM
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Weak minded people applaud weak minded behavior. You don’t know any better. You’re mad I don’t respect people acting like a fool? Not respecting you is not gnashing teeth. Making spontaneous and random decisions does not mean better. But that would require you don’t make them to figure that out. Which you clearly aren’t capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:44 PM
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It’s biological. Why don’t you evolve to figure out why you need to eat? It’s not ideal to pay for food. Better yet why don’t you evolve to not need any social contact at all? If regular social interaction is required for you to be happy you should try to figure out why.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:51 PM
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Oh no I mean they do like the women. They probably love them. They need to keep providing something to her or she will leave looking for more. Men learn that woman want what they can provide to them and how they make her feel. Not the actual man. Once that is gone she will be too. The man is there to please her. His time is spent figuring out how.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:37 PM
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Then their selections determine nothing about me as I said. If this was the case then you shouldn’t be saying: If people are selected ahead of you, you’re not better
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:30 PM
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Then they can’t pick or determine the better option. Their selection is not dependent on who’s best and does not mean anyone selected is better. That’s their flaw not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:06 PM
1

You just said “If people are selected ahead of you, you’re not better” meaning those people are objectively better. Now you’re saying it’s subjective and admitting they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:52 PM
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I’m not interested or asking about what you call this. I’m saying I don’t respect or promote this behavior. This isn’t about religion. It could be 3 weeks or 3 months. It’s a weak minded approach. If there is an issue you address it, discuss it, and try to work through it. If you can’t you can’t. You don’t immediately drop everything with no explanation to jump to the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:18 PM
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And I don’t respect or promote this behavior. The lying, acting as if you like someone, hesitation, uncertainty. Why date anyone with the intention of looking for a reason to leave? Learn how to make a decision and stick with it when dating instead of shuffling through 100 men for tiny inconveniences looking for absolute perfection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:58 PM
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What they can provide to you and how they treat you are both part of the transaction. If you no longer provide or give a specific treatment they leave. Most men learn they don’t like you they like what you can do for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:34 PM
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This example is exactly what relationships are. If you stop providing whatever it is that’s attracted them, they leave. If a woman pulls sex from a relationship is the man going to say it’s ok we can do something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:06 PM
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No. I’m opposed to the idea of dating someone, building a connection with them for months and waking up one morning and saying I don’t like the way he holds his fork so I’m going to ghost and never speak to him again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:00 PM
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You’ve just made contradicting statements. If everyone selected ahead of you is better than you that would be fair. It’s not the case. This would also mean that women have 100% correct judgement and can do no wrong in their selection. That is also not the case. This would also mean that women determine men’s worth by selection which is your dream. That damn sure is not the case and will never be close to coming true. Is going to stay exactly that. A dream. Better try that with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:56 PM
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And you haven’t read what I said. I don’t know what she’s done to call her anything. What I do know is she is defending the idea of hopping from guy to guy and justifying it as being acceptable. I’ve pointed out that behavior is not praiseworthy. That’s nothing to defend her over.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:09 AM
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You’re justifying going from man to man on a whim simply because you feel like it. That’s not how married women speak. You being able to do so doesn’t mean it’s right or something to glorify as you are. I’ve had relationships before, there is no “admitting” anything other than some bullshit you’ve created. If someone has their tongue down my throat one night and randomly decides they’re not compatible afterwards that person is fake and was playing games to begin with. You’ve just defined leading…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:55 PM
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You’re justifying going from man to man on a whim simply because you feel like it. That’s not how married women speak. You being able to do so doesn’t mean it’s right or something to glorify as you are. I’ve had relationships before there is no “admitting” anything other than some bullshit you’ve created. If someone has their tongue down my throat one night and randomly decides they’re not compatible afterwards that person is fake and was playing games to begin with. They should learn what they …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:55 PM
0

Then men do not have the luxury of being able to have a better life single. Their biology and position in the dating market doesn’t allow this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:01 PM
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Caring about others means you aren’t treating them like shit. A concept that you can’t understand you should be doing. Literally asking me why you should care about anyone else. You should actually have life experience to understand why you shouldn’t be a piece of shit and what happens when you act like one. I’m not the one to teach you this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:47 PM
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Yes being humble has everything to do with being egotistical. It’s something you haven’t learned. Humble people aren’t egotistical. When you have an ego and think you’re hot shit when you actually aren’t other people won’t respect you. When you don’t care about anyone but you and treat others like shit people won’t respect you. You actually need me to tell you what right and wrong is? I shouldn’t have to teach anyone why they shouldn’t be an arrogant greedy prick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:31 PM
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I’m sure you are and most men will give you a pass to do so. I can’t teach you to be humble or care about others. That’s something you develop over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:59 PM
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That’s great but that’s not what’s being asked unless you want to refute that single women are happy. Women are claiming they are so much happier single. This posts asks how men can do the same. Men will not accomplish this without receiving intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:51 PM
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Do you really need help from others to convince you to care for other people other than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:41 PM
2

Then it doesn’t solve the issue. Neither men or women will be happy single with no intimacy for 6 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:30 PM
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I wonder why they didn’t they answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:26 PM
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If you’re ok with others disrespecting and using you that’s fine. I’m not and you’re not about to tell me to be. If you want to jump from person to person at the slightest inconvenience and think that’s ok, I don’t. Over time I’ve developed morals and values to understand the importance of serious relationships long term. I’m not stringing someone along not knowing if they’re worth dating. I’m able to make a decision. This is not about the chubby guy who fails. The guys who get in shape and make…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:06 PM
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Yes, if a guy receives sex it should be understood that there is an expectation of some sort of dating. Why would women be ok with men getting over on them like this? Yes, if something sexual happens I should still continue to contact her. Why would I run off and never speak again afterwards? If a woman respects you enough to date and have sex with you then you should be investing in her. You shouldn’t have approached to date if you didn’t intend to. When a man has made the sacrifices necessary …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:56 PM
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You not liking something does not make it a lie. Did you actual think you could add the word “only” which wasn’t said anywhere and think no one would notice? That’s not how it works. They don’t have to provide anything other than intimacy to keep a man. Men and relationships will come regardless. When I’ve done everything the right way and busted my ass in every way possible to succeed you think you’re about to tell me I’m not good enough for some bum who hasn’t? Not hearing it. You all love to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:41 PM
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This is what relationships are. A glorified transaction. The man provides something whether it’s good looks, social status, or recourses, while the woman allows him to be in her presence. You cannot choose a relationship where you provide nothing. Men are bitter when they are excluded from participation despite putting forth the effort to be there. Why wouldn’t they be? When other men are included who have not done what you have you won’t be happy with the outcome. You shouldn’t. Having the conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:16 PM
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Everyone knows it’s possible. It’s just less likely an average guy will treat them poorly. Even if he wanted to, he doesn’t have the leverage to even think about it. The top percentage of attractive men have multiple options to cheat with or leave to and receive more lenience to treat women poorly. They can be selfish or disrespectful and be forgiven. Average men do not have these options. Naturally they will be more grateful to have a partner period and will be motivated to do anything they can…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:01 PM
1

Everyone values individual characteristics. This isn’t some grand revelation and is irrelevant. I’d highly value anyone I found that doesn’t meet these stereotypes. The problem is they are so common that’s most likely ever going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:44 PM
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As I thought you don’t know how to use the word. It means capable of being replaced by something else. That literally means swapping with someone else and trading like it’s nothing. That’s what the word means…. What I value in women has nothing to do with what the majority are. I don’t control that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:35 PM
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Yeah you don’t know how to use the word interchangeable. Looks like I need to repeat this. No obviously no one is going to swap someone they’re dating for any other random.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:26 PM
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You would need to know how to properly form a question for that to happen. Tf are you even talking about? No obviously no one is going to swap someone they’re dating for another random.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:22 PM
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This doesn’t mean they are all exact carbon copies. If you have standards you date who meets them. You’re adding interchangeable in a place it shouldn’t be. It means they all generally fall into the same buckets. That’s what society is now. Your argument was that men lack awareness for generalizing women for what the most commonly do. Then it’s that it’s my fault I encounter the majority and all men should somehow all be with that small pool of outliers. That doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:17 PM
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Of course they have some differences. Overall all they are in the same category of instagram spamming, expensive dinner eating, alpha male attracted, always traveling, treat men as disposable, types. That’s what society is now. If I want to date this is what I’m going to encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:59 PM
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Men do not do the picking unless you are of the most attractive or successful. Men cast out as far as they can and will work with whoever says yes. They don’t have pools of options to choose only the best from. That’s up to women to stereotype men. Men prioritize physical attributes. No one cares. It’s clearly true. If you date a man you probably are dating one that prioritizes physical attributes. Not because you “tailored” to them. When most people fall into a generalization you will most ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:41 PM
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Of course there are men who will lie and pretend women are angels who never did any wrong to them as if they’ve never had any issues. They all just worship you right? Men don’t simply pick the best women available and they come running. It’s not that simple or easy. There isn’t a lineup waiting for you to call their name to serve you. Again When you have a majority who behave this way and a small group that doesn’t, most men will encounter the majority that does. There is not enough of that smal…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:19 PM
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I’m not responsible for others behavior nor can I control it. You’re not about to flip this to be my issue. These generalizations exist because they are common. That’s what you will run into as a man. You aren’t going to avoid this. When you have a majority who behave this way and a small group that doesn’t, most men will encounter the majority that does. There is not enough of that small group who doesn’t to go around to every man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:13 PM
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I’m still waiting. Every experience I’ve had was with the general stereotypes named in this post. If we’re going to discuss dating that will be what I discuss. Not “what about the ones who don’t”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:03 PM
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No one lacks awareness because one woman exists somewhere that doesn’t do this. Where you fall flat is the “there are tons of people who don’t”. There aren’t. Generalizations are made because they are common. No one gives a shit about outliers when they are so rare that you don’t come across as them. Never found them and doubt I will. They aren’t worth mentioning. You prepare for and discuss what you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:37 PM
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Yes but for item 1 some do know and will intentionally never admit it because they don’t want to appear superficial. Other than that why would they need to develop any awareness about the situation? They can continue on doing this and still have a steady stream of men wanting to be with them at all times. They always have options so they don’t need to care about improvement or introspection. Their thought is oh he didn’t work out just throw him away and start again. Men are in abundance and disp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:57 PM
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No it’s a regular occurrence, it’s just not high tier a list. They all have a story about the blue checkmark in their dms. Even comments on this post about it happening. That’s really all you need to be considered high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:35 PM
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My guess is nothing, outside of an obvious attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:22 PM
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Showing you what? What did you actually learn?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:36 PM
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What could you possibly tell about how a man would treat you in seconds?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:00 PM
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This is what makes me sick about the whole situation. If I approach and fail I’ve just contributed towards that inflated ego, worsening the whole issue. If I don’t approach I get nothing. I hate knowing that I’ve contributed at all to this or give these types any positive recognition fueling them to become worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:55 PM
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Nearly every couple I know that did not meet in college or through college connections met on apps. I couldn’t even name 5 that didn’t. I don’t even want to ask anymore at this point because I already know I’m going to hear the same thing. Once you move past this point it’s apps or nothing. It’s an undoubted consensus with everyone I speak on this topic with that apps are the primary source.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:44 PM
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Let me emphasize that you had the preexisting generic traits that enabled this to work. The 5’2 janitor will probably not pull this off just by adding lean muscle. Those overemphasizing personality probably know it won’t work or they don’t have the discipline to stay in the gym. So personality is what they use to feel like they can still win. Other than those instances where improvement is not a solution yes this is exactly how they diminish superficial traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:50 PM
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Yes maybe you can learn how to become trustworthy this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 08:09 PM
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You came to me and now complaining that I responded. If you don’t care you should have never came to me writing paragraphs. I don’t need a tissue for simple logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 08:08 PM
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What’s pathetic is not even being trustworthy enough that you can’t go to a yoga class alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:56 PM
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You don’t care yet you wanted to jump into my conversation so badly without being invited and now spamming multiple paragraphs replies to a single comment. If you don’t care don’t come to me talking about how men don’t trust you and it’s their fault. Yet you did..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:55 PM
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Incredible you still can’t comprehend the topic or any of the points. It’s like talking to a hamster. Treating someone as untrustworthy who’s not trustworthy does not mean you are insecure. It means you are intelligent. Men having hobbies is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:08 PM
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Men can be totally secure in what they are. They don’t have to be secure with you. I would never trust people like you. That has nothing to do with what I’m capable of. That’s your failure. That’s not “whining”. That’s telling about who you are. Of course you do f like these talking points. You answered why you think men need hobbies while already in a relationship. You said nothing about using hobbies while single to obtain a relationship. You aren’t picking up what this post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 06:39 PM
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You don’t quite understand this post. As I just said, this is about obtaining dates from women through clubs, classes, or activities. Not what you do while already being in a relationship. I also never once said that men don’t have any hobbies. Nice try I guess? That won’t stop them from having an issue with yours. If you can’t make your man feel secure or display a sense of loyalty you will have this problem regardless of how busy he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:45 PM
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First this post is about obtaining dates from women through clubs, classes or hobbies. The most successful men or ones who appear to be that way are the only ones actually doing this. Second if you do want to go there men do not care as much about spending time together like women do. They don’t like your hobbies or social groups because they make it more likely that they will be replaced. You fulfill a man’s intimate needs and convince him that you’re loyal he will give you any time you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:33 AM
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You don’t attract women by hard work. The most attractive men aren’t the hardest working. This is not a Disney movie where everyone wins in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:05 PM
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In other words they can’t brag to their friends about this. Everything men do must benefit her. Even in their free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:44 PM
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Great point. You can’t just be in the group. She won’t care. You need to dominate and hold power over others in that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:41 PM
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I’m expecting that you have an extroverted business owning millionaire husband with a 6 pack who is the life of the party at all times in his sparkling clean high rise loft.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:37 PM
2

How can one be selective without having high standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:22 PM
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You’ve admitted this is true in the beginning stages. That is where all of these problems arise. The people having these conversations don’t care about anything but the beginning stages. If that’s where the high expectations are you can’t get around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:18 PM
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This is unbelievable. You just asked who is telling men that they don’t need looks and wrote an entire paragraph about how men can pull women without having looks…. You’re saying “completely ugly men find women” then asking why ugly men think they can pull women. Think about that..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:40 PM
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It does not matter what the rest of the package is if you don’t have looks. She does not care. Looks are the most important factor in attracting women. Without them you lose. That’s what you would be telling men if you were realistic. Not “they aren’t the most important part of dating” so men think they can compensate without them by having other traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:25 PM
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It doesn’t matter if you didn’t say the exact words looks don’t matter at all. You’ve downplayed the importance of looks and made them irrelevant which puts you in the same bucket. You’re saying looks can be compensated for by other qualities and you don’t have to be the most attractive. You’ve just given any impressionable guy who listened to you the hope that he will land the woman of his dreams. This idea that the not so attractive guy will succeed because he has the whole package and looks a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:18 PM
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like they aren’t the most important part of dating Downplaying the importance of looks as if they aren’t the most important and necessary piece to attraction. most don’t have a hard set requirement that their partner has the be the sexiest person objectively on the planet Implying you don’t have to be the most attractive to obtain a relationship. not just because of looks but because of the whole package Implying you can bypass looks to get a relationship by having other qualities. Idk where the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:03 PM
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What I said was many of those 100 weekly matches will be average women. Women chase the top percentage of men. Not just attractive women chase attractive men which you tried to switch this to. Me telling you these are not only attractive women changes nothing. You don’t determine who is average and you clearly can’t. You don’t get to just claim you only match with the top 3% of the most beautiful women on the app. You don’t. They are average and not fat. Many if not most of them are not IG model…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:42 PM
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You say this then pretend like you didn’t. Theres no lie. It’s like you don’t know your comment is still there. That doesn't really support your position that all women are chasing "Chad". The top 1% of men on apps are not the only attractive men. You aren’t the top 1%. Even for the 1% there are majority average women in the 191 likes. Every attractive man does not have the most attractive IG models on stand by waiting for him to call 24/7. That might happen at times. It is not constantly availa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:06 PM
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You’ve just done all this talking about how all of these women are begging to be with you and now you’re criticizing the idea of all women chasing Chad. This is exactly the idea that YOU are portraying. You can claim you theoretically can match with 100 women a week and there will be one to hookup on any day that you want. Not all of them are going to be the only the most attractive. Definitely not in the top 9% as you’ve said. There will be average women in that mix. Being somewhat attractive d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:13 PM
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And you’re going to side with women no matter the situation. That’s your approach as I described.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:54 PM
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At this point you’ve gone into bullshit territory. This is all horribly exaggerated. You aren’t about to swipe on 9% of women and receive up to 100 matches a week with them all being in the top 10% of attractiveness. All while you will have one available and wanting to hookup no strings attached on every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:52 PM
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We went from this is not the feminist approach to it is but it’s ok because they’re hated. This is the part where you start your act so you can defend them repeating what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:39 AM
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There is a small percentage that will. That small percentage is not available to come running at your beck and call 24/7. You don’t pick up the phone any time at random and some attractive woman will come running to hookup no strings attached. That’s when men will go with average women if available. Now you’re coming with this brain dead blue pill shit. Knew you couldn’t help but start this. “Do you really think no attractive women hookup??!??” Tf does this have to do with anything? You thought …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:29 AM
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This is the most red pilled comment here if it were actually true. Just had a comment about how women aren’t all chasing Chad. Maybe I’ll direct her here. Anyway attractive men are typically not that powerful that they can call a top attractive woman at any time 24/7 and she will come crawling with no strings attached. They will dip into average non fat women at times when this isn’t possible. And when they do they don’t have to follow the rules she typically has for men while dating. Unless the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:49 AM
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The comment I replied to. Men don’t decide to be the guy that bangs within the first few dates because they do xzy. Just like you don’t decide if you get flown to Dubai. If men want to be the guy that bangs within the first few dates, then he needs to be the kind of guy that escalates and gets her horny enough to do that. I was making out with my bf on the first date, and slept with him on the second. And you need to stop dating women who don't want to have sex with you within ~3 dates or whatev…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:37 AM
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I can tell you aren’t by how bitter you are. Again, statements you don’t like aren’t complaining. This is a sub about dating yet you’re bitching at me because I’m discussing dating topics. I’ve never once said I should be able to fuck any woman on the first date. This post is about why men don’t enjoy not being the guy she desires most. I’ve explained why and that giving up on dating is not a better option than managing the inconvenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:36 AM
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It’s a different scenario because women typically have a large pool which they can hand pick whatever men they want from. So they actively select these men when they have other options. Men pretty much only have the option of whoever says yes and have to make the best out of it. If a woman did not have the typical advantage of being able to select from a large variety of options as other women do and had little to none such as men do then I would not question their assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:21 PM
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Then you don’t have any reason to reply to me. I said all. That’s why they say all women. You’ve realized you can’t deny their experience as wrong. This is what you said: “That's exactly why there's no substance to it though. Yes SOME women are like that, but to the redpill, that's the only kind of woman that exists.” When that’s your dating experience with all women, that’s all the women in your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:10 PM
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Then you shouldn’t be responding to anything I’ve said aside from agreeing that men do have these experiences and they are valid. There isn’t anything for you to say but agreeing some men may have all had negative experiences while dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:59 PM
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Because you don’t understand what’s going on. All you can think about is how you can defend women. It’s very basic and I’ve laid out a simple explanation. Let’s get even more simple. It doesn’t matter if they say some or all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:55 PM
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Attractive men will commonly date down to get casual sex. Women will likely let him because he’s attractive. He does not follow the same rules that other men need to who aren’t. If they are having sex within the first few dates of someone they’ve only known for 1-2 weeks then yes that is immediate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:50 PM
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This is dating experience only. It’s not going to be everyone they encounter. All women means all women they’ve dated and have the ability to date. You’re hearing this as all women on the planet. That’s not what anyone means.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:38 PM
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And when their experience is the same with all women they’ll tend to say all women. You brought this up. I told you there is a reason why.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:23 PM
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This is why the whole “I get pussy” act only stays on Reddit. It’s the only place you can pretend the dogshit you go home to daily isn’t dogshit. It’s the only place you’ll ever be tough. You can run around taking shit to people who did nothing to you but you’ll always know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:10 PM
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This is not a female? Woah what a bad ass bragging about pussy on the internet. I’d surely be more impressed if I knew how fat she was.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:58 PM
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The difference is I’m not telling you that you could and that’s what you should be doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:49 PM
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Statements that you don’t like aren’t complaining. Far from it. If you have a problem then stop women from spamming on every post that men are pathetic. No that’s totally fine for you though. But if anyone responds it’s a problem right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:48 PM
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The standards for the most attractive men are going to be much more lenient than what’s for the average guy who will have more rules to follow. If all the guys you know are having sex immediately with women they’ve just met then I really don’t know. I would guess they aren’t so average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:46 PM
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You don’t say Well I’m not a guy who can consistently have sex on the first date so I’m going to give up on dating and never have a relationship. You will manage that inconvenience as having a relationship is of more importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:41 PM
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I’m not critical because the behaviors they’ve described are exactly what I’ve seen. Their solution is wrong because there is no solution. This doesn’t matter I’m not talking about the solution. Ive responded to why they say all instead of some which you said was the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:35 PM
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Love how you all act big and bold and always want to talk shit yet if someone responds it’s always “why are the men here so mean to me”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:27 PM
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Now we’re back to saying they’re wrong after you just claimed you weren’t saying that. Classic. This is a very basic concept. It’s not my fault you can’t grasp it. Men that have had negative experiences will have negative views on relationships. You don’t know shit about them and have no position to tell anyone what they’ve had happen. Their problems are real. Their views are real. The reason they say all women is because to them it’s frequent enough to consider it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:18 PM
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Then you don’t know what it’s actually means to be alone. You don’t know what the value of touch and intimacy is or you don’t have that value. Settling with a woman who doesn’t want to have sex with you immediately is nothing near pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:09 PM
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What I’m describing is most of the couples you see. Men put up with this. That’s doesn’t mean they enjoy it or are happy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:02 PM
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Rejection is not the only form of negative experience in dating and relationships I hope you know that. If you actually weren’t then you would’ve accepted that there are men who have mostly negative experiences and have the right to speak on them as they see fit. You didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:58 PM
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I’ve told him there are men who’ve had mostly negative experiences with dating and women. That’s why they say all women. His response is they’re experience is wrong as if this isn’t possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:53 PM
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Most men do not have the variety of selection to do this. Men don’t decide if they are the guy who bangs within the first few dates. They either happen to have the traits or they don’t or they’re in the right place at the right time. Most average men don’t have the option to be some stud that women abandon standards for on the first date. They must play the clean up role to be the safe option and once she settles down. You will pick that over nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:50 PM
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You sound like a simp wanting a pat on the back for defending women. Men tell their negative experiences with women and your response to their experience is “They’re wrong”. No, that’s what they’ve experienced. You can be mad about that all you want. You can’t change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:43 PM
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If men could decide to only date women who wanted to immediately have sex they would mostly all do it. It’s not that easy or that simple. You wouldn’t know this beforehand even if you asked. Nor do most men have the variety of selection to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:23 PM
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Its reality. You can portray women as these angels who can do no wrong but the men who have seen the pain they cause will always know what the truth is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:07 PM
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The original comment was talking about being manipulative or cruel to men. You asked me why they do this. I told you I don’t do this so I wouldn’t know. I’ve already replied to tell you why it’s pointless to criticize the use of some or all women. When all women treat you this way, to you that is enough to call it all women. Is it a shock that they think the people being manipulative and cruel to them are awful?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:47 PM
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I don’t know why. I’m not manipulative or cruel to people because they’re awkward or weird. If all of their dating experiences are them receiving this type of treatment that’s what they’ll talk about. If all women they find are like this they’ll probably talk as if it’s all women. That’s what they see. One random woman who doesn’t behave this way is irrelevant if you can’t find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:19 PM
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You don’t get to play both sides. You’re saying there’s no substance because only some women are like that then say you aren’t denying their experience. You are. That’s the treatment and experience they get from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:06 PM
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If you’re not denying their experience then you should have no issue with the all women terms. It’s all women to them because that’s all they see is women exhibiting the behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:57 PM
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It’s an analogy… An analogy of how you can know that’s something is true and still not like others talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:55 PM
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If someone is overweight they know that it’s true. If someone else points this out and discusses their bad eating habits they won’t like it and they’ll think negatively towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:49 PM
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If this is the only behavior that men experience from women then it really doesn’t matter. To them it’s all or most women because that’s all they see and get. If that’s what you experience that’s all you will know that exists. That’s not hate that’s the reality of their experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:44 PM
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That’s exactly what it is and what they do with every issue. You will never see feminists siding with men unless they’re kissing their ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:07 PM
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Siding with women always no matter the situation or how wrong they are. Yes this is actually the feminist approach. This is exactly what white knights do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:07 PM
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That’s just too bad. Women already set the expectation that men are supposed to approach. These are the men who are rewarded. The most aggressive. If men don’t approach they face complete isolation and will be ignored. You all asked for it and got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:48 PM
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Let’s not forget about the white knights. They deserve credit too for repeating feminists ideas for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:36 PM
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Yes I did say they are sharing her. The op mentioned men sharing women but will not admit to women sharing men. Women do share men also but only the top percentage. A large portion of women can have multiple men sharing them on their roster. A small portion of men can have multiple women sharing them on their roster.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:29 PM
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These days the common trend is for women to have a roster of men while dating. Probably 2-5 guys at a time. All of which serve different purposes. They probably all can’t share sexually, but they are sharing her attention and time all while competing for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:44 PM
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What is supposed to happen here? They will experience more interest than the average male. A bottom 25% women will out value an average male. They also have a much easier path to improve that value through diet and makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:40 PM
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Of course now no one wants to talk about it when insecurity is being used against men. It is constantly said otherwise and especially here. Calling anyone incredibly insecure is an attack 100% of the time. Do you think this is a compliment? You are not free to share your feelings or insecurities as a man as you and others love to say they are. They will use it to attack you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:34 PM
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Once you open up to them about your insecurities they will then use it as an attack. Once you set a boundary that they don’t like then those insecurities aren’t acceptable. Men cannot show or share insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 09:01 PM
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Yes typically when women are talking about men displaying emotion they are talking about anger and not displaying it towards them. This post is not about anger, it’s about insecurity. When they say display emotions as a man you must read this as do not display any emotion to her that can be considered weak. This will be used against you and will negatively impact the way she sees you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 01:35 AM
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You said it’s either or. That’s not the side you choose. You did not say it’s usually immutable traits. When men say they’re rejected for height you say that’s not the reason “my 5’3 friend has no problem with women”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 11:30 PM
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These are the same ones saying “open up more”, “I love men who show emotion”. Yet you see how they weaponize any insecurity you show against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:39 PM
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So you don’t suffer from just low quality men who just want sex. You now recognize that you do have men who want relationships also. Yet despite them not being out just for sex, as you said was the problem, they still aren’t good enough because…. “Personality”. Whatever that means. You say you want more than that yet when you get more than that it’s still not good enough and we don’t know why except misogyny. Idk.. maybe looks have something to do with this? Nah no way. You do realize that major…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:30 PM
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You don’t care yet you made an entire post to oppose this… Right. You and other women here immediately jump to personal choices and decisions to the reason for any man’s failures in dating. The problem is you continuously favoring the side that is pretending that placing the burden of all negative relationship outcomes solely on the decisions of men with women having no accountability in anything is “accurate”. The reason you all push that relationships and rejection falls on men’s choices is to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:23 PM
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And what about the guys who do want a real relationship yet still get ghosted, rejected, or straight up ignored? The ones putting in the work to find a connection long term. I guess these are just lowlifes too right? Despite trying to do things the right way. If you say you want that then how would this still happen? Theres much more to it that you aren’t mentioning. He’s right about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 07:26 AM
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This is the giveaway that either you are lying, trolling, unaware, or severely exaggerated. Every man regardless of attraction has had issues with women. A list celebrities including who many describe as some of the most successful men ever such as Will Smith and Tom Brady famously had issues with women and marriage. If you had no issues you’ve never had a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:38 PM
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What you listed first does not matter. You said picking one of these sides is not just world fallacy. It is and you did not pick a side in the op. You only listed the options. Men will tell you that you are playing the just world fallacy when you consistently assume the changeable characteristics are the issue in men being rejected by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:22 PM
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You’re saying this as if every man is financially sound and responsible and has the ability to do this. If every guy you know is wealthy or maybe you don’t care about money whatsoever what do you actually care about and get impressed by?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:15 PM
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I get you’re saying this for the sake of the argument but no, introverts typically are not the ones talking in circles not giving you a chance to speak. Quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:09 PM
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Looks like I was correct. That is exactly what just world fallacy is. You consistently choose to blame changeable behavior and rarely if ever acknowledge immutable issues as being the cause. It’s what blue pill does. That’s the side you’ve picked and why you will always be a part of the just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:07 PM
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There is a reason men are rejected. The reason is most likely not something they have control over and not something they can get. It’s not because of Reddit comments. When you admit that most men fail in dating due to circumstances outside of their control you will be past the just world fallacy because you admit thier situation is not fair. I’m confident you won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:37 PM
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Women typically chase the most social outgoing extroverted (loud mouth) men. Then commonly come back with this complaint. Not sure what you expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:20 PM
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This is not the bare minimum. Many people do not actively invest anything past the basic retirement fund. If this is true it demonstrates he is responsible and can contribute financially. I see that most women now put zero value in this. What do you actually care about? What success actually impresses you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:15 PM
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This is a very real scenario and I’m sure this is how most of them treat me. I can’t personally respect this. Im not saving my personality for only people I like and would date. Im not making you prove your worth in order for you to have a true interaction with me. If they have that type of ego they probably aren’t worth talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:09 PM
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Be attractive and fit into the small percentage of men who are to her. Be outgoing Never be shy Display dominance Display courage Have a large social circle Financially stable Be a certain height Be a certain race Have a style of dress that she likes Do not be awkward… ever Have social skills Have a decent place The list goes on… This is just to have a chance. But all of this is omitted and all we need to do is shower and don’t be an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:06 PM
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It’s not important. It’s not consistently defined. People add in whatever they want it to mean. You’re not unique because you process and manage emotions. Something that everyone must do. Your emotions don’t disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:50 PM
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Nothing you just said is new to anyone. You’ve done exactly as I’ve said you would. Made some generic interpretation that anyone can do. Completely different from the last definition I’ve heard. You all just throw whatever you want in and call it official. Everyone has emotions and they have no choice but to process and manage them. This is not some secret only you know. Emotional intelligence is about as real as astrological signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:30 PM
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You didn’t define anything. When you get called out you say it’s defined as…. What you did was indirectly list a bunch of basic bullshit everyone does without assigning it to the term thinking it would be your escape route. Everyone manages their emotions. Everyone can understand where other people are coming from. I know exactly why people parrot this dumb buzzword shit. React “healthily” to others means react the way you want them to. If I asked someone else to define this it would be nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:20 AM
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It’s like they imagine events as being filled with all single women twiddling their thumbs waiting to be approached by men they don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:26 AM
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Theres nothing to repeat. You’ve proven nothing. Just be destroyed everything you’ve said. You have no argument. This is someone who was called out on the definition of emotional intelligence and responded to define it as someone who acts emotionally intelligent. Let’s repeat so we can clarify how bullshit “emotional intelligence” is. This is someone who was called out on the definition of emotional intelligence and responded to define it as someone who acts emotionally intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:53 PM
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I slowed this down as much as possible yet you still don’t get it. It’s pointless this is too much for you to comprehend. No shit it’s in the post tf did you think you were accomplishing by saying this? It’s not defined there either. Your definition of what being emotionally intelligent makes you aware of = “whether or not you act emotionally intelligent.” Maybe actually think about what you say and not just repeat the same word in the definition. You will be attractive with or without this. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:16 PM
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There’s nothing here I don’t understand. All of you using this have a completely different definition of what this is. You keep saying it. It’s a strength it’s a tool you require it. But you can’t accurately say what “it” is without giving a generic interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:23 PM
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Your point is irrelevant. You’ve said oh wait there are some women like that that exist. Great. And? There are very few women in male dominated hobbies. Out of the few women there most of them are not single. Most of them are not there to be approached and came to interact with the group they came with and already know. You probably won’t even get a proper opportunity to approach. If there is one that’s single and also open to meeting new men then get your spot in line. You aren’t the only man w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:16 PM
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People saying this don’t think that far.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:06 PM
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A theory regarding emotion. Not a fact or definition. No unit of measurement or way to scale levels from one person to another. No universal or defined characteristics. It is a trend now. Women throw it out as an excuse to reject and ghost men that they have no other reason to reject. An abstract justification of why men aren’t good enough with no proper definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:13 PM
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These women aren’t going to these places to meet men. The few women there are there to interact with the group they came with and participate in the activities at hand. Or you can be one of the 8 men in the skewed gender ratio trying to approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:26 PM
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All of these stupid internet trends have Wikipedia page. Are you going to tell me about the scientific study of “Rizz” next? You’ve been asked how to measure it and you have nothing. You ask 10 people what “emotional intelligence” is you get 10 different answers. You can’t answer of how to improve it, how to define it, or how to measure it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:14 PM
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Oh look there is an article on my buzzword so it’s real!!1!!1 There are articles on the red pill also so everything they say is 100% factual and real. Such impressive logic you have there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:05 PM
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Thats obviously in the post and that’s not 2.…. It tells me absolutely nothing. Be socially aware is your own personal subjective opinion. Aware of what? Most everyone is aware. Women aren’t simply attracted to you because you are positive towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:03 PM
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This could mean anything. That’s the problem with these loosely defined buzzwords such as emotional intelligence. What could they possibly be doing involving emotion that’s causing mass rejection while they have everything else in great shape?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:16 AM
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Then why wouldn’t he have women for this reason if he’s such a catch?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:54 AM
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Didn’t you just say abusers do the same in showering with love which apparently works? What’s the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:46 AM
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So if a man isn’t on the spectrum you believe whatever he says? Are you telling you are this gullible to anyone not on the spectrum? What could possibly make that much of a difference? This doesn’t even sound real. More like a ln opportunity to make a dig at men you perceive to be socially awkward. We get it you are disgusted by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:45 AM
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Who is actually sitting here thinking woah I never thought of this though?
/r/seduction30/06/25 11:55 PM
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I see it constantly. They can sense desperation. They can sense the misogyny. The vibe was off. Both men and women saying this. Which is what one thing, but don’t turn around and tell me you got tricked because he was pretending to be nice and you fell for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:25 PM
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I wouldn’t have a problem with this excuse if it weren’t for them also claiming to have a sixth sense to know when a man is a bad person and can sense bad vibes. They are so skilled at vetting yet can get hooked from a guy pretending to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:33 PM
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Is it really that easy to deceive women? Is this actually a matter of pretending or attractive and high status men given a pass to do what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:22 PM
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I’d categorize that scenario as obviously ignorant and rude which many men are not. The guys who do ask questions while being kind and polite. They’ve done everything right according to the personality crowd yet still rejected. This is a common scenario without a common answer. Everyone jumps to them being blatantly rude. Yet if they aren’t then what?
/r/seduction30/06/25 02:06 AM
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People keep saying personality like you did. What would guys be doing wrong personality wise use that’s so bad? If you are who you are that doesn’t seem avoidable
/r/seduction29/06/25 06:43 PM
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People keep saying this but what could be that bad personality wise that would cause constant rejection? I refuse to believe guys are being so obviously ignorant and rude that it causes this.
/r/seduction29/06/25 03:59 PM
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Wonder why you are so eager to spam this all over this thread. Couldn’t be because you want to normalize female breadwinners? No way. Women want higher earners. They settle for similar earners. They avoid being the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 10:15 PM
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You and several comments immediately came in to argue how common women out earning men is in relationships. Theres no point in you lying the comments are all there. You all hate the fact that women want to date up. Probably because you can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:00 PM
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No shit. Can you read? You’re pointing out what he said thinking it makes you intelligent. What I pointed out is that people like you will come swarming in trying to pretend women being j the breadwinner is normal. Throwing in shit like “egalitarian” to help your cause. Great you like poor men. You’re not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:40 PM
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He did and I reminded him how desperate you all are to make women out earning men in marriages appear normal. You aren’t. But go ahead and check the homeless shelter for your next husband. That’s clearly your type.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:06 PM
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Bbbut look how non superficial we are. We love dating bums who we support financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:04 PM
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And he replied and addressed both. My comment is still 100% true about the weirdos here and you’re proving my point. Ironic you want to bring up reading yet I have to break down what was said to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:33 PM
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They are so desperate in trying to normalize women being the breadwinner here. Anything but admitting they are an outlier and women most often seek higher earners than what they are since women date up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:25 PM
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Yes ! Whenever I’m in the mood for raging feminist who hate men. It’s perfect.
/r/seduction28/06/25 03:17 PM
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You give and spend to receive intimacy. That’s the only point. What I don’t know is where this expectation of not having to give or spend in a relationship from men such as the one above is coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:36 PM
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It’s not about confidence. Being cheap turns off women. Does not work. You can say there are exceptions but I see this and only this consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:33 PM
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Are they serious or is that a troll account. At this point I cannot tell because people seriously say shit like this online.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:21 PM
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If you’re well past college your primary source will be apps in 2025. It’s time to stop pretending it’s some rare phenomenon only the most desperate use. It’s completely normalized now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:18 PM
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Id immediately turn off anyone by the slightest hint of being cheap. At this point I’ve just accepted I’m going to be doing a lot of spending. I suppose this scenario could make you look good in a breaking the rules type of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:03 PM
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Because there is no alternative for many men. This is what most relationships are. You are always expected to give and spend something. Just varying levels. I’ve rarely ever seen a relationship with a woman doing all of the giving and spending.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:57 PM
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This would equal automatic rejection to me. But glad it works for someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:58 PM
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Everything they’ve said sounds undoubtedly as if it were from the female perspective but I guess they did not actually specify.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:21 PM
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Well your fellow blue pilled op says this is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:18 PM
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Waiting for all the blue pillers to come crawling in with the “everyone is in relationships just go outside and see11!1” but the won’t because a woman posted this. Yet let me say anything like this and they’re swarming to say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:47 PM
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No shit then stop complaining that men won’t talk to you. That’s not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:29 PM
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You were just complaining that men don’t hold conversations. Again, no one can hold a conversation with you if you don’t match with them so they have an opportunity to respond. No one can have a conversation with you if you dont respond. It’s not a matter of men not holding a conversation with you. You don’t want most of the men who will and they will never get the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:07 PM
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So you’re going to chick fila and doing what? Sitting down alone and women approach you? Or approaching women who are out for lunch and doing what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:59 PM
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Since it’s so easy for you what would you do if you decided you wanted to start a new relationship within one month with someone new? With it being this easy I want to hear the few simple steps required.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:24 AM
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Let’s look at what you actually said: Do women have this much power? IDK it seems like finding a guy who's motivated enough to even look up from his phone or hold a conversation is like pulling teeth these days. Don't get me started on OLD and how little effort men put in there. And it obviously gets them laid somehow or they wouldn't be doing it. Now these are apparently men who said hey and you’ve ignored them and didn’t accept it. If you don’t match with them they can’t hold a conversation wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:16 AM
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That’s not how dating apps work. You have to match with them for them to have the opportunity to have a conversation with you. Random DMs online are not men having conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:25 AM
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You’ve matched with them so they have a chance which is a small number of men. The men who would actually try to have a conversation are treated as they’re invisible by you and do not have the opportunity. I’ve called out exactly what you’ve done. You’re trying to pull the “no men will talk to me” excuse. We all know that means the small number of men you find attractive won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:17 AM
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I just fucking told you I’m not debating that being wrong. Try reading one of the 5+ times I’ve said that. Holy shit you don’t have a clue. I’ve done my part and shown you are a hypocrite. I doubt you actually know what that word means. The point flew over your head hours ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:46 PM
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I’m not debating whether or not anything you’ve said was true. Read that again but slowly. It’s incredible you can’t comprehend such a basic sentence. I don’t know how you’ve even managed to understand how to sign up for a Reddit account.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:26 PM
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I don’t give a shit about that. I don’t care about what you think is being used. I’m not talking about any of that. The point: you complained to other men about them generalizing women. You then immediately generalized men. I don’t care about you being wrong. The point is you just did the exact thing you said was wrong. Yet you will see this and proceed to tell me something completely unrelated after me repeatedly telling you it’s not what I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:50 PM
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But the men asking “wanna hookup” are so they are the ones who get a chance. Great. The next time you want to start saying there are no men willing to have a conversation with you remember that there are. You’ve deemed them invisible (unattractive). Translation: Of the small amount of men that you find attractive, most of them don’t want to have full conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:41 PM
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I don’t give a shit about you getting ghosted by men out of your league. That’s irrelevant. The point is if you’re going to generalize men you don’t get to go bitching to other men about them generalizing women. If you think you can be right they can be also. You have zero room to say shit like this: Way to stereotype all women in one monolithic group. How about if I said "all men are shallow and just use women for sex"? Would that be accurate?! .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:37 PM
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You probably aren’t matching with them. Why would you match with or open conversation opportunities to men you think are unattractive? They don’t have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:53 PM
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Actually read your comment : Way to stereotype all women in one monolithic group. How about if I said "all men are shallow and just use women for sex"? Would that be accurate?! Pointing out that you’re a hypocrite has nothing to do with “whining”. How ironic is it you’re bitching about whining when you just got finished complaining about how another person generalized women. I forgot have to go slow around here. The point is you just got finished crying in another comment about how he generalize…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:43 PM
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There are plenty of guys who are willing and want to have a conversation past wanna hookup. Plenty. It’s not that men aren’t doing this. You don’t want the ones who are. You finally had one and you write him off as desperate and lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:38 PM
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You just complained about stereotyping women into a monolithic group then minutes later start talking about “you men” do this, men do that, responding to a comment generalizing men as dull. The classic it’s ok when we do it but never admit we’re doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:58 PM
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That doesn’t have anything to do with this. You’re pushing this narrative that guys don’t put in effort. Giving one word responses. As if guys that aren’t doing this will magically solve their issues. The problem is the guys that are putting in effort aren’t seeing anything being solved. It’s unlikely that of the hundreds of matches you can’t find one guy to have a conversation with. The point is they are there. You just don’t want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:51 PM
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There are men putting tons of effort to do anything they can to connect with women. They are still getting rejected. Guys being normal and not jumping right into hooking up are getting no response. They know this is not the issue. When you come on here talking about how no men do this as if that’s all they need to do, the men who consistently do this yet still fail will always disagree. I hate these “effort” posts because the same women who applaud me for effort are the same ones who ghost right…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:50 PM
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Going from bad to normal is not charismatic for short or unattractive men. Do that without the grace of being tall and attractive and it might be. I don’t need to validate anything. It’s reality and women prove it right in front of me time and time again. I only convey what I’ve seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:03 PM
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Sure you’re “tall and attractive”. This worsens your argument. Tall and attractive men think they’re charismatic because of their reactions from women when most of them aren’t. They’re tall and attractive so women call the things basic shit say charismatic. You’re reading the joke literally and saying oh it’s not everything single word they say. Obviously. The point is tall and attractive men would most likely not be considered charismatic by women if they were short and ugly behaving the exact …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:09 PM
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When a man is deemed as attractive suddenly the way he speaks is charismatic. He’s now hilarious also. This is because they have a bias to attribute positive qualities to those they think are attractive. Nothing about this is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:29 PM
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Women aren’t going to admit this of course. Especially here. I don’t expect you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:33 PM
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Yes, they are. If you don’t have the looks threshold nothing else matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:48 AM
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The point is you don’t feel lust when looks are not there. If looks aren’t there nothing else matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:47 AM
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You’re attributing lust purely to flirting and banter. As if any man can decide that he will be lusted over via flirting and banter. The most attractive men are not the hardest working. They aren’t the most attractive because they’ve worked for it. They have the genetic traits necessary. One without these traits cannot pass them by hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:29 PM
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Because it’s said with hostility, disgust, or malice. What they’ve said is they don’t think you’re worth even being considered to be a part in her life. Not even worth speaking to. Your dirt to her. Naturally it’s going to be upsetting when you’re told this. If you went around and everyone stuck their nose up to you when you tried to interacted with them you’d have the same attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:18 PM
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Charismatic = anything attractive men say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:09 PM
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Of course they do, but they can’t pretend to ignore the importance of looks if they actually admit they have a looks requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:05 PM
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A classic virtue signaling Reddit comment. Completely ignoring anything physical or looks based to pretend any man can be lusted over because he “learned” to flirt and banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:59 PM
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Watching what women do and say in real life instead of believing how random Redditors describe what they do is “in the dark”. Incredible insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:24 AM
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Unfortunately I know exactly what happens in reality. You and others here lying and exaggerating are not going to change what I’ve actually seen and had happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:55 AM
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You’ve just said some women care about height and size. And no men don’t typically deny they care about physical characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:19 PM
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No most of them care about size and height. Enough that I don’t care about the outliers since they’re unlikely to come across. You’ve just done exactly what I’ve said. Used what you think to be a negative or superficial characteristic and attributed it to “some” of the group. Men do not go around trying to deny they care about women’s size. They will admit they do. If men tried to pretend they didn’t care then yes women should argue that they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:48 PM
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I guess it’s that time to scream sexism. Women here yes. Their entire point is to prove men wrong. When you talk about how women care about anything remotely superficial such as size or height they will come running to claim the opposite. We already know women prefer taller men and see this in our everyday experiences. Now if you say women care about personality and being a good person they’ll all come to praise you since this makes them look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:34 PM
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To oppose what the man is saying thinking it will help prove him wrong. Trying to protect the image of women by making them appear wholesome and less superficial. Not being aware that they are an outlier or pretending they aren’t. These are just obvious reasons idk every reason why they lie. They would never lie to agree with men. The whole point is to oppose them. The reason it’s virtue signaling is because every disagreement just so happens to be the view which displays women positively as the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:14 PM
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Yes. It’s because most of you are lying or exaggerating and we know it. You’re either virtue signaling or using it to oppose what a man is saying. We see what actually happens in real situations and it’s nothing like what Redditors describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:24 PM
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In that case you don’t need to lift or be rich. You just try every woman until you find one desperate enough to say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:24 PM
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Yes, attaining one’s desired outcome is the solution. I can lift and be rich yet still be unsuccessful in dating. If they can fail they are not assured strategies. It does not matter if they contributed to your chances if you’ve still failed. Nothing was solved therefore they were not solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:12 PM
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They are not solutions. Potential benefits are not solutions. You can be the strongest in the gym, increase your income and social skills and still be rejected. Still be called unattractive. You also don’t need any pill to understand these potential benefits. What they can do is break down how cruel female nature is and highlight the problem in great detail. Get rich and get buff is not going to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:36 PM
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I’m not asking you to fix anything. I’m telling you watching a podcast isn’t magic solution to anything. There is no formula. They exist because men want a formula. Not because some podcaster has one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:59 PM
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There is no magic formula or solution to any of this. You can watch a million podcasts. It’s not going to fix anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:22 PM
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They exist because men want a formula. They are of the few groups who understand and discuss the problem. They don’t have a realistic solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:12 PM
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You need to have intelligence to deduce that 2 + 2 = 4. Anyone can do it. That doesn’t mean you are intelligent. If you acknowledge that the most intelligent man is not the most attractive, it doesn’t matter if you suggested it or not. It means you understand that being intelligent does not mean you’re attractive or are capable of being attractive. Everyone knows they can slightly improve their chances by improving some controllable aspects. That doesn’t mean you won’t still struggle and will be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:01 PM
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You don’t need to be intelligent to know it might improve your chances. That doesn’t mean you won’t still struggle. Understanding that doesn’t mean you’ve solved the issue. The most intelligent man on earth is not the most attractive. There are too many factors beyond his control that determine this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:16 PM
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There is no logic in this. No rules, consistency, or calculations. You can do everything that’s supposedly correct and still be rejected. You can “improve what’s mutable” and get nothing. This is not a formula that guys haven’t figured out because there is no formula. You can’t think your way into attraction. People don’t gain relationships because they’ve schemed some brilliant plan no one else thought of to attract someone who wouldn’t have been attracted otherwise. They have the genetics they…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:32 PM
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As I thought, none of this leads you to desirability as a man. You need to be attractive. You did not mention one thing about looks. If i have friends and interests women are supposed to desire me now? They all seemed to have missed your memo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:08 PM
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It’s a guarantee that I have heard this before and know that neither you or the podcast dating coach are going to give me the magic cure to becoming desirable. Please, tell us all the magic secret.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:53 PM
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It’s just not good advice. We cannot sum up men’s desirability based on whether or not he’s listened to women. Most of it was never a matter of his decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:19 PM
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Men who are not desired are not undesirable due to following other men. Women do not hold some magic cure that men are refusing to use which can make any man desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:46 PM
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I know it’s not my logic. That’s why just said it’s yours. When you reply to me about how you think it’s sexy that men break the rules I’m letting you know that group is not just good people. You’re now saying no shit after continuously trying to deny and avoid this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:30 AM
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It’s your logic. It’s a specific scenario that fits your criteria for breaking the rules and doing so in a useful and intelligent way. When you say people who are breaking the rules but doing do intelligently there are still bad instances included in that group. If that’s what you think is sexy you can think that. I’ve pointed out that this will include some bad actors and if you praise this it will be praising those bad actors as well. The point is not all those who break the rules intelligentl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:15 AM
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Then pimps are sexy to you. They abuse and make money from it. They know the streets well understand how to be physical at the right time to manipulate others. They don’t believe it’s immoral because they say they’re helping the women. So it’s ok for them to do this because they get use out of it and go about it with intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:59 PM
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Why get a normal job instead of selling drugs, what a genius question. Idk maybe because OF and selling drugs are not the only options of working. I don’t care about your imaginary story. Im pointing out how much of an idiot one has to be to advise college students to sell drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:51 PM
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Sex on the first date is a risk. Selling drugs is a risk. If there are severe consequences possible that is a risk. If you can’t understand what the negative consequences of selling drugs are you don’t have the capacity to have this conversation. It doesn’t matter if every case doesn’t ruin their life. If you are engaging in an activity that has the potential to ruin your life that activity is dangerous and risky. I can’t believe I have to explain this to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:47 PM
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How is it that I’ve explained to you multiple times I have made no correlation to abusers and selling drugs. You still keep repeating this. For the 5th time that is not the point. At this point you’re intentionally doing it to avoid the point. I’m not going to keep explaining this. If anyone is an abuser then by your logic they are sexy because they break the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:38 PM
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Gee idk maybe you advise getting a fucking normal job like everyone else instead of doing dumb shit. Your little troll isn’t funny. Imagine any respectable individual advising college students to sell drugs but being 100% serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:35 PM
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It’s not about your husband. It’s pointing out that breaking the rules is typically not a good thing. So when you praise men as sexy for breaking the rules you’re praising mostly negative traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:16 PM
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Again this has nothing to do with the likelihood of those other people becoming abusers. This is about abusers only. They are breaking the rules. So they must be cool by your logic also because they have and people who break the rules are sexy. They have seen through the propaganda to do what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:07 PM
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And you would never recommend anyone you care about to start selling drugs… because it’s stupid and there are potential consequences. Yet you’re glorifying it here to make your husband look good
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:01 PM
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I didn’t say they are. I said abusers break the rules just like they do. They don’t care if there are rules from those who don’t like it. I’d hope you aren’t praising men because they break the rules. You can party and do all of that without selling drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:43 PM
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Do you not understand what the consequences are for selling drugs in either of those places? Have you ever seen a raid? Do you understand there are entire task forces put together for the sole purpose of stopping drug trafficking? Selling drugs is risky and dangerous for a multitude of reasons. There is nothing you can say to disprove that. You’re very sheltered that you have never seen what can actually happen to those when this act goes wrong. The pure possibility of this happening means you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:10 PM
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Abusers don’t care if they don’t like it either. Are they sexy for breaking the rules? Have they seen through the propaganda? You don’t have to sell drugs to think or support that they should be allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:05 PM
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If you had any real life experience you would see the consequences oh what happens to people that sell drugs. This isn’t a fucking fantasy land where you can sell any drugs you want and nothing will happen to you. You don’t even need experience you only need common sense. Do you understand how stupid the claim “selling drugs is not risky or dangerous is”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:58 PM
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Oh right selling drugs is not dangerous or risky… Did you actually just try to make that statement? I’m guessing that’s a joke to give you the benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:43 PM
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They don’t have to be. It’s a random assumption you’ve just added. They are the “cool” guy because he’s doing something dangerous or risky. Somehow that’s attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:26 PM
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“Bbbut I shouldn’t have to say it”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:05 PM
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The red pill wins again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:34 PM
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You saying most women aren’t like that when you see anything negative doesn’t make it true. I’ve lived it and what I’ve seen is broken down in the op perfectly just as it does when it happens live.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:16 PM
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They are with the most aggressive dominant and attractive man they can find out of who is available to them. If he happens to be misogynistic they’ll put up with it. They might hope he’s not. That’s it. The shy quiet and non masculine guy will get scraps. Doesn’t matter if he’s not misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:07 PM
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Women sleep with the most aggressive, dominant, and attractive men. It just so happens these men are more misogynistic. What a fucking surprise. It does not matter if they are misogynistic or not. Not being misogynistic is merely a preference that stops nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:54 PM
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No, you’ve seen a negative aspect of your groups behavior highlighted and you are doing damage control. “Oh no women do this”. The op has already shown you this. The most aggressive and dominant men win. This is who the women go to. Them being misogynistic is just an unpleasant and ignored side effect. It’s not stopping anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:46 PM
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The unattractive man needs to be attractive for woman to want to sleep with him. Doesn’t matter if he’s misogynist or asks a million women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:16 PM
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This is an invitation for the ideal man in you hear to approach and ask you out. That’s who this advice is for. Not for every man. If the guy you don’t like does it now it’s inappropriate. Now it’s a problem. That’s not who your talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:50 PM
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Great let’s have all men approach you and ask you out at all times. Just because they feel like it. Everywhere you go. And don’t complain either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:42 PM
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What actions have they done?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:18 PM
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And what actions have these men done to pursue that makes them superior?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:29 PM
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Great then all I have to do is pursue and I can date whoever I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:25 PM
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The ones that don’t just “don’t have that spark” .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:04 PM
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And that’s exactly what happens when they fuck only the most aggressive men when they actually don’t give a shit about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:47 PM
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If these men are bad and women like these men then women like bad men. When you just fuck the most aggressive guy as you and this post encourage, you end up in terrible situations eventually. The negative aspects of this need to be at the forefront of this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:45 PM
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According to you. This post has demonstrated otherwise. The most misogynistic dickheads, even such as who you just named, have run through hundreds of women. They are lined up for them. Being misogynistic doesn’t stop shit. These men still succeed. You don’t like them. I don’t even like them. That doesn’t mean women don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:41 PM
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You are highlighting their success. The whole comment is framed to paint a positive spin on them. That is praise. It’s not only you women as a whole do this and this op is a demonstration. These men are rewarded by women as they are the ones who get them. I’ve had women tell me how they loved being aggressively grabbed and pulled aside by guys but if guys actually did that as a whole that infatuation would be done quickly. You love aggressive men until the wrong one does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:38 PM
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Keep rewarding and praising the most aggressive men but don’t start complaining when shit goes south talking about how you want to be left alone. When those men you deem unattractive start being aggressive then it’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:22 PM
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It clearly is making them more successful and op has demonstrated that. You just don’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:19 PM
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We all deserve romance? That not at all the approach from this sub. I thought we aren’t entitled to shit and the fact that men don’t receive love is praised. Now we deserve love?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:16 PM
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Most men do not have the option to be promiscuous as women do. This is the only way they can experience this. There is no difference. You both had sex with a large number of people. The similarities don’t even matter in this context. If women agree they would not date a man because of this they agree that it’s acceptable to judge one’s worth based on their past decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:10 AM
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Being sexier than them doesn’t mean you are sexually arousing. You’re ahead of them at the bottom of the list. You could change your comment to say if you max out all characteristics you can be better than the bottom percentage and it might be accurate, but reality doesn’t sound as great.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 11:29 PM
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What you wrote was a bunch of virtue signaling bullshit. You said men can “be sexy”. That’s not a choice they make. “If you want to be seen as sexy and sexually arousing, then be sexy and sexually arousing. If you want someone to feel aroused and sexually attracted to you, then be and behave sexily and arousingly.” You don’t decide if your comportment or interactions are found sexy. I can’t just decide that I’m going to be found sexy to any woman I choose when I speak to her because I tried hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 11:00 PM
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This is not how it works for men. Men are well aware of doing this. I can be the most in shape, best dressed, and cleanest person I can possibly be. That doesn’t mean I arouse women or cause them to find me sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 10:50 PM
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Men don’t simply decide to be sexy and arousing. You don’t decide who you are sexually arousing to. It’s not a choice. Every man on the plant wants to do this. It’s not that simple. You can spend your entire life trying to do so and still be called unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 10:41 PM
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I’m not playing this game. You continue to dance around the question and it’s clear why. You can either answer to whether or not it’s acceptable for men to use body count in the same way you’ve just used men using sex work or you can pretend to ignore it and continue on with the double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:06 PM
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I wasn’t talking about your first comment which was obviously referring to men. Nor did I respond to it. I responded to your deflection to the comment about how women use body count in the same context you’ve used sex work in. Yet we’ve heard no answer from you as to whether or not this is acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:51 PM
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It doesn’t have to be just money. Status, popularity, clout, more attractive. Once she sees another who has more she’s gone in one swipe and she forgets you exist. It doesn’t have to be an exact percentage. Men who are dating in 2025 and focused on female nature will most likely come across this eventually. Unfortunately it’s prevalent behavior. The red pill is just the place to discuss it and find ways to overcome these issues, which they probably won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:36 PM
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It’s not about you having a preference. It’s your unwillingness to admit it’s ok for men to do the same. If men say they believe promiscuous women aren’t good partners you should be supporting them as you say women who have used sex work in the past aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:23 PM
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It’s not a double standard because I’m not shaming women for using the past. Which I don’t see men doing. I constantly see women denounce men using the past to judge potential partners as it “doesn’t matter”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:29 PM
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He’s not going to get one ounce of truth here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:23 PM
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Im not one to also shame the use of someone’s past to judge their capability of having a relationship so I don’t need to. I’m also not definitely calling it weak. If a guy has a loving wife and still does then it could be. If there is a guy who is totally void of intimacy despite his best efforts then it’s perfectly fine to consider it as everyone eventually needs some type of romantic intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:18 PM
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It doesn’t matter if you don’t like that he brought this up. He’s right. This is what accountability is. If you judge men to be weak because of their past decisions you also support men judging woman to be weak and poor partners for being promiscuous in their past. That’s if you weren’t biased or a hypocrite. Instead of addressing this you make excuses to run from it. That’s not what accountability is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:12 PM
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The irony that you of everyone on this thread asking about being stupid is beyond me. Calling you out for being a fake and a hypocrite is “whining”? No, it’s the truth and you’re terribly upset by it. What you don’t understand is that poster and men are not going around telling everyone it’s wrong to judge others in dating based on their past while it’s suddenly acceptable when they want to do it as you and other women will. Instead of accepting that women shouldn’t shame men for doing the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:38 PM
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This is why you all are known for avoiding accountability. You preach it’s not acceptable for men to judge you by your past then proceed to judge men by theirs. The acceptable answer here is for you to admit that’s it’s acceptable for men to judge based on past partners since you are doing the same. But you’re not and you won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:13 PM
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Incredible insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:04 PM
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I’m not here to answer a million questions from little white knight Reddit nerds about how relationships work. The discussion was me telling them changes are expected while they deny any changes are. You already admitted both genders do this. It doesn’t matter is you think you don’t need to establish they shouldn’t be flirting. They can still do it and if they do you need to tell them it’s not acceptable. I’ve actually had relationships to learn what you can and can’t believe of what women tell …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:14 PM
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I’m not explaining how relationships work to you. The point is changes in behavior are expected. That’s already been proven by one example. That change can be whatever they determine. Anyone who’s been in a real relationship has spoken like this. You tell them what is and isn’t acceptable for you and what you’re comfortable with. If a woman wants an open relationship and allows this then yes you can flirt with other women. That’s why you use your words to establish how they should act and expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:22 PM
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You’ve already admitted both genders do this and have been provided with multiple examples. You’re telling me you don’t believe what you’ve already admitted happens. Start thinking before you speak and you won’t be in these situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:04 AM
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That is correct. The strip club is a great tool for men to practice talking with women. That’s advice you could use. It’s much more effective than thinking white knighting for women on Reddit will help you. Your argument failed and now you’re desperately looking for another. Holy shit this is sad. The collective of men dating don’t like their woman going to the club and shaking her ass in provocative clothing. Using your great logic again you’ve once again just opposed women and supported the op…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:34 AM
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Anyone who’s not an idiot learns this through experience. This is dumbed down to the lowest level possible. I can’t help beyond this point. You don’t even know that flirting was only an analogy used to get the liars to admit there are changes. You fell for it spectacularly and have no idea. You don’t get to determine what change is based on your option of what should be required. Change is change. Period. Men and women have different definitions of what that change will be. You can’t escape the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 11:31 PM
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It’s insanely easy to beat such weak logic. Effortless. I hope you aren’t this trash at everything you do. Doing what you’re “supposed” to do does not remove the definition of change. Completely stopping any behavior you’ve once done including flirting is change. The op thinks it’s a normal and healthy expectation in monogamy to stop dressing protectively and going to clubs. According to your logic this is a perfectly fine expectation. You’ve already admitted both genders do this. Now you’re try…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:12 PM
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It’s insanely easy to beat such weak logic. Effortless. I hope you aren’t this trash at everything you do. Doing what you’re “supposed” to do does not remove the definition of change. Completely stopping any behavior you’ve once done including flirting is change. The op thinks it’s a normal and healthy expectation in monogamy to stop dressing protectively and going to clubs. According to your logic this is a perfectly fine expectation. You’ve already admitted both genders do this. Now you’re try…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:12 PM
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You’ve just repeated your same excuse that I’ve already ended and you have no idea. Read slowly so you pick this up. There are some behaviors that are expected to change. This is exactly what I’ve explained to you multiple times. If you could read, the comment you replied to said exactly this. “So you’re saying it’s acceptable to expect people to change once they’re in a relationship? “This is the only point I’ve conveyed to women here that they furiously refuse to admit. The strip club analogy …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:18 PM
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I’m correct. You could have easily admitted you expect some behaviors to change just like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:51 AM
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In order to meet your “boundaries” he’s required to stop flirting with other woman as he did while single. He needs to change his behavior for you to be with you. I already understand all of this. Which is why I see right through your excuses. You’re terrified of having to admit you require men to change just like men ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 11:05 PM
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Yes, you quite literally are changing someone else for behaving as they were when they were single. That’s common sense of what you need to do once you enter a relationship. You tell them not to flirt with other women because that’s what you will tolerate. You don’t communicate nothing and wait for them to do something you won’t tolerate so you can leave. You actually use your words to tell them what they can and can’t do in a relationship with you according to your “boundaries”. Do you think bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 10:53 PM
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If he flirts everywhere he goes you expect this to change. If she dresses provocatively and goes to clubs men can also expect this to change. You’re pretending that your only options are accept or leave when logically you could simply avoid all of this by communicating what your expectations are of how he should behave which is what most people actually do. In reality women will get their changes and men most likely will not because dating favors the woman as she has the leverage and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:59 PM
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It means ending behaviors. You don’t get to be the one who decides what behaviors are decided.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:00 PM
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It doesn’t matter what you think is different. It’s a change that you expect him to make while in a relationship with you. You have your changes, men have theirs. You’re saying the changes you require are acceptable because you think they important. Men think theirs are too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:47 PM
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I replied after you came in trying to white knight on a comment that had nothing to do with you. Bitching about what was said when I wasn’t talking to you. She literally said she didn’t want him to change for her and you just admitted both genders do this. You can’t even white knight correctly as you’ve directly opposed her side. It’s not possible to dumb this down for you anymore than it already has been. The worst part is you’ve proven my point and you have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:24 PM
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She hasn’t answered the question to be right or wrong so I can’t say if she is. You’re telling me that if you were in a relationship a you loved a man you’d leave him if you found out he’s hunted before even though he’s stopped to be with you? It’s acceptable to judge others based on their past now? So why are men ridiculed and called insecure if they were to not want to be with a woman due to her promiscuous past? I thought the past doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:46 PM
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You’re lying to me and getting mad I don’t fall for it. You’ve just said you have no expectations in a relationship and the man can do whatever he pleases. Who is going to believe this? Everyone has expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:33 PM
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It’s not a conversation. I’m telling you you’re wrong and this is hypocritical. I know what you mean and what you say are just excuses to justify your side. This is not an argument being made on this post. Clearly. It’s a test of your logic and a demonstration of why it fails. If he was flirting with women before he met you. He’s not going to stop just because he met you. If you don’t support that statement you don’t stand by your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:06 PM
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It’s so simple yet look at this thread. Nothing but women doing anything but this. Cannot find one comment of them admitting or acknowledging that yes dating is easy compared to men. It’s the opposite. The conversation will never move forward due to this greed and ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 01:58 PM
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Stopping a behavior you once regularly did is a change no matter how you try to describe it. It stops because it’s not acceptable in a relationship. Men and women are expected to change once they are in a relationship. There is nothing you can say to get around this. It doesn’t matter why they are at a club. It’s no longer acceptable to dress provocatively and jump on stage to shake your ass for other men once you’re in a relationship. When a woman respects her man she’s going to stop or at mini…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 01:18 PM
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The example was going to a regular bar and flirting with women. The strip club was a different example, not the point that it should be acceptable. She and the other women are denying this. The hypocrisy is that they all expect men’s behavior to change once in a relationship, yet balk at the idea men expect them to change as well. You were never a part of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:46 AM
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I’m not confusing anything. You’re trying rename an expectation to change to excuse your side. The man always enjoyed dressing up and going out to flirt with women. Him enjoying it means nothing. He’s still expected to change because he’s in a relationship. It’s no longer acceptable. Trusting everyone doesn’t make you wise. It makes you vulnerable and easily manipulated. A target. Trust is earned by proving otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:11 AM
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Yes you will expect your partner to fundamentally change once they are in a relationship with you. The way they behave while single is not how they are expected to behave once in a relationship with you. You expect him not to go to a club and flirt with women. Even when it’s not cheating. You are expect him not to keep contacting his ex. You expect him you invite you to more events with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 01:36 AM
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I already understand the situation. I’m not asking for anything to be explained. Im pointing out lies and excuses. You’re incredibly naive if you think everyone just stops going out and flirting because they enter a relationship. Anyone who’s going to cheat will feed the bullshit excuse that they’re just going to dance. That’s not the point. Reality is your expectations are that the man’s behavior will change once he’s in a relationship with you. There are several actions such as him going to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 01:12 AM
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I gave you an example which you just quoted…. Maybe use that. Both genders would be expected to stop doing this. Obviously. That’s the point of the post that women including the one you’re white knighting for are trying to deny. There are behaviors that they expect to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:42 AM
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No. The point is there is an expectation that the man’s behavior will change as he goes from being single to being in a relationship. What you’re missing is not all behavior is based on values. There are certain things such as going to the club and flirting with women that are expected to stop. They don’t want to admit this because it becomes hypocritical when they admit the expect men to change while they shame men for doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:16 AM
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No shit. You still don’t get the point. If someone frequented strip clubs or any type of behavior that’s not acceptable in a relationship, you wouldn’t expect that to continue once you’ve entered a relationship. You’d expect it to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:46 PM
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Everyone I saw who replied ended up saying they’re be fine with it. In reality women are rarely ever ok with this. Yet every woman here conveniently is. He didnt ask for women’s numbers because you expected him not to. When you’re in a relationship with a man you expect him to behave a certain way. You can’t pretend that relationships exist without expectations. Your behavior and his behavior changes once in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:37 PM
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They wouldn’t have known in the first place. Which is why she’s admitted she’d leave once she learned this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:30 PM
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Ironic seeing you were so bothered by me that you jumped in a conversation that had nothing do with you trying to flex how great being single is and talk shit about how you think men are desperate. Again expecting someone to give a shit about you or be impressed. I’m disgusted seeing women act like this. Supposedly married women at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:28 PM
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And those things that are not you don’t expect to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:35 PM
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I love how every woman on this post is suddenly pretending to be fine with their husbands going to a strip club just out of spite. Then your husband’s behavior while single is exactly what it will be when you’re together. There will be no expectation for anything to change. If he went to the club to approach and asked women for their number while single he does not need to change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:33 PM
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It’s ending a relationship because you’re petty and don’t understand how to communicate needs. But yeah just run through as many men as possible instead of asking one not to do something. I couldn’t imagine being married 18 years coming on Reddit daily flexing about being single and how I could leave any time I wanted or thinking that anyone gives a shit. It’s terribly cringe you still think acting like this is cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:27 PM
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So he cannot have done anything in the past that you don’t like. Even if he stops when with you it does not matter because he enjoyed it. Your husband has never once done anything you don’t like and has never before.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:53 PM
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Yet you’re talking shit about being single when you’re clearly terrified of it. Pretending to be someone you’re not. Suggesting poor decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:46 PM
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Luckily I actually realize that you need status and to be physically attractive to do this which you conveniently forgot to mention. I can understand if you forgot trying to include all of the virtue signaling buzz words. I have no concern at all about being trusted. It’s not even relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:43 PM
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And your relationships wouldn’t end if you simply communicated. But you think being single is a flex. Go through a ton of guys finding any petty reason to break up instead of simply communicating what you want him to do. Great decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:39 PM
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Well I guess that’s the benefit of being a top their man who reached such high standards. You can go to the strip club with no complaints from the wife. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:30 PM
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You didn’t clarify anything because this logic doesn’t work. I’m sure now you’re going to say you’d never date a man who’s stepped foot inside a strip club in the past so this can’t possibly apply. Your husband enjoyed sleeping with his ex. I’m 100% sure you expected that to stop once you started dating him. He probably went to bars and hit on women. You expected him to stop this once in a relationship with you. You don’t know everything about someone before dating them. There are going to be th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:21 PM
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Why would you break up and destroy a relationship by inviting him to do this instead of simply communicating to him that you don’t want him to do it? He could easily agree and never do it again as he’s with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:08 PM
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A regular club is a sexualized environment, nearly every guy in there is looking to find someone to hookup with and it’s filled with women dressed proactively. So if your husband starts going to the strip club every week you don’t have an issue because you’re not insecure and you trust him right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:04 PM
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Ok then your husband is clear to go to the strip club whenever he wants. As long as he doesn’t get dances with them. You’re ok with this because you trust him so everything is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:00 PM
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Then you’re not comfortable with him doing that. The same way men aren’t comfortable with their partner dressing provocatively and going to clubs. Yet this is called insecure or controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:57 PM
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So you’re saying it’s acceptable to expect people to change once they’re in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:49 PM
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So if a man or your husband loved going to the strip club and getting a lap dance that doesn’t magically stop because he’s in a relationship right? He still enjoys the music, the dancing, being with his friends. It was a part of his life. You either trust him or you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:36 PM
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So your husband is allowed to go to the strip club whenever he wants right? You’re not insecure and you trust him not to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:33 PM
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This sub is to discuss dating. People are going to say men do this or women do that. It doesn’t mean 100% of everyone does this and you can’t find one who doesn’t. It means that’s what they’ve generally experienced to be true. Men who have had bad experiences in dating will come here and share them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:17 AM
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I’ve already shown her comment to be wrong and now yours. A man describing his experience of women is him describing his reality. That’s how he’s experienced women. Now you’re all complaining he’s “vilified” you because it happens to be a negative experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:04 AM
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To him and other men who’ve experienced this treatment women are that way. Why would he care if there are women somewhere that are different if he doesn’t know them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:10 AM
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Read over the comment again. That’s not at all what I said and you’re creating a fake narrative to setup the classic “not all women”. I just said that post is much closer to what I’ve seen in reality than what women would try to sell me of how they behave in a relationship. If all the women a guys been a relationship with act this way that’s what he’s experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:02 AM
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I keep saying the point is not actually that all women aren’t capable of love. To that person it makes no difference because that’s what they know and have experienced. From their perspective they aren’t. The post is being talked about as if it’s some imaginary story that never happens that’s created to vilify women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:18 AM
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I’m here to tell you that’s what their experience is. If it wasn’t they wouldn’t be making the post. If women were doing unpleasant things to cause a bad opinion of them that’s their fault. Not the person who experienced it. You clearly are not seeing the point that I have you so let me say it again. The point is not that no woman is capable of love. It’s that experience is closer to reality than what you would describe what their love is. I’ve come to the conclusion about what reality is based …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:07 AM
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And how is someone describing their experience vilifying anyone? You can’t really say what’s on the grand scale. Relationships are designed for women to have the leverage and get what they want. It’s not designed to please or serve the man. It’s designed as women being the prize while men compete for who can offer her the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:24 AM
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This is not a sound excuse. You can’t dispel any statement because it does not apply to 100% of every woman on the planet. There are clear circumstances such as cheating where you will know what a woman truly feels about you. Her actions tell you. Not words. The point is not that no man or woman at all ever is capable of love. The point is that experience is far closer to reality to me than whatever sugar coated examples of how women love you or other women here would give me. People are calling…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:06 AM
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Me embarrassing you isn’t emotional. Try having sound logic and it wouldn’t happen to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:20 PM
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She just told me what is reality after I just told her I have lived the opposite. That’s exactly what she’s just done.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:18 PM
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There was far more to the post than that. You all are creating the most unrealistic summary to sound correct. I’m not married to any of those women you mentioned and I’m not the one receiving that. I hear people like you claim it happens and hear some claim they do several things. Women will yell up and down they love you and still cheat. Women in transactional relationships will say they love their husbands. That proves nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:17 PM
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How sad this trend is. Spamming anything you don’t like as “whining”. When people want to say shit like this to me I’m going to correct them. I don’t give a fuck what you have to say about it. It’s a post put up for discussion yet you are crying that all of the comments aren’t kissing women’s ass like you want them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:11 PM
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Who tf are you to tell anyone what reality is? You will never speak for me. No post will have 100% accuracy of every single word. You need to be able to summarize what’s being said and understand the general idea being conveyed. Not create some bullshit quote and nitpick it as being fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:39 PM
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I can tell you my experiences are far more closely related to that post than what you would describe a relationships as. You’re looking at the post as being vilified and I’m looking at the post as reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:55 PM
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That’s exactly what you did and is all you’re looking to do. You’re purposely pretending that they’ve done nothing to deserve or create any hostility as if they have done no wrong. You can’t wait to point out how it makes sense for women not to give a shit about men but intentionally ignore why it makes sense to be hostile to a group that hostile and disrespectful to them. Men don’t want women to fix their problems. Women are the only ones capable of being the other half of relationships. They a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:55 AM
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Because men can’t provide intimacy for other straight men. If you remove all intimacy from a man for years at a time he’s going to be hostile and frustrated. Especially to that same group degrading and taunting them. Constantly reminding them they don’t deserve it and aren’t good enough out of spite. These aren’t the innocent angels you portray them as. They have just as much a part of this as any man does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:54 PM
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I don’t know where that term originated but it’s not one I would approve of using exactly for this reason. It gives an escape route for people to down play it as an issue for relationships with other men to fix which usually can’t be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:39 PM
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It is the lack of romance. This is exactly what’s meant with the term male loneliness and if you replace loneliness with romance this topic will start to make sense. It’s just not explicitly said. It’s the romance and intimacy that have been lost. That’s why this issue revolves around women. They are the only way romance and intimacy can be solved for straight men. Men aren’t out here saying they want more male friends. You can try to hide your pain in male friends, but when the night ends you’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:44 PM
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This is exactly where we are headed. It goes further than that. Why even talk to men for free? Why even let them look at you for free? Every aspect of intimacy is being monetized. They don’t need to use relationships to extract resources from men anymore. It can be done online without having to actually see them. Sex isn’t even required and can be avoided now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:27 PM
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Defending other women only because they are women. No matter how obviously in the wrong they are. As we see on this sub daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:44 PM
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I’d say stay in good shape and start conversations with men you like. They will do the rest. The difference is I’m not going to push back if someone who asked says that doesn’t work the way people here are stuck on just be nice. I’m not claiming to know all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:41 PM
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You can justify it however you’d like. At least you admit that this is said, which is more than when she was willing to do. Men’s attraction is pretty universal so that question is much easier to answer. But doubt many would ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:28 PM
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Because I’m talking about anyone who they considered to be bad people. I’m being told here that morally bad people can also have a good personality that is fun to be around. I don’t know of anyone like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:39 PM
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I just saw a comment about how women are attracted to energy and confidence. You say it’s obvious and I say it yet I have to fight off comments like this constantly. This is the gaslighting mentioned and it’s everywhere in response to dating struggles and why men believe this: “Dating apps only benefit the most attractive of men. No, this is not because women all want the most attractive men. At some point or another, every single attractive woman I know has been hung up on a man that would be c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:59 PM
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I don’t know. I’m trying to figure out the same thing. Apparently these bad men have good personalities that are fun to be around because a good personality doesn’t involve being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:53 PM
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You just said “if they don’t know you as a person that it’s not physical appearance” Keyword NOT physical appearance as the reason for rejection. If that was a typo so be it. Whenever men here speak of trouble attracting women I fully expect you to be there telling them it’s because they are an ugly nerd and not giving the rant about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:51 PM
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How ironic. Yet another who’s done exactly what I said they would. You’ve just made an entire post about how it’s so obvious women are choosing strong handsome men yet you’ve now completely backtracked to claim women don’t reject men because of their physical appearance. And you talk about being dumb… That’s hilarious. You can look at a man and know if he’s strong and handsome within 2 seconds. YOU are the reason men believe they can still win and get the woman of their dreams despite being that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:35 PM
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Actually claiming to already be in a relationship is a far more common rejection. Women are not confrontational enough to be saying this to men and type is not narrowed to physical appearance only. Again. The next time men speak of their failure to relationship find a relationship I fully expect you to point out thier physical appearance of being the main reason and not defaulting to claiming personality which nearly every women does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:11 PM
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Because this is the opportunity women and even some men love to use to push the exact narrative you say you can’t understand men believe. When men say they’re rejected or failing to secure a relationship women will never flat out say it’s because they’re physically unattractive and they aren’t the strong handsome men that women want. You won’t even agree to say it right now. It’s directly relevant because they’ll say it’s because of his personality and that unattractive men can still get relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:59 PM
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They flip depending on the topic. On this post it’s: so obvious women want physically attractive men. On others it’s: women love personality and their 5’2 fat ugly friend has no problem with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:44 PM
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Great. The next time men speak of being rejected be sure to tell them it’s because of their physical appearance and genetic traits without blaming their personality as everyone loves to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:40 PM
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I’ve proven you wrong already. Your answer was no. You don’t have any bad people you like because of their personality. Conversation is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:43 PM
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Continuing to run from the question. I’ll answer it for you. You don’t spend time with bad people because you also consider them to have good personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:36 PM
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Do you have no examples of bad people you like because of their great personality? I’d be mad too if someone embarrassed me like that too. Me having more than 2 brain cells prevents that from happening though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:31 PM
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I know exactly what you’re going to do. More than you do. You’ve already wasted enough time. If you don’t understand read the last comment again of your entire playbook as to why this is a constant loop of denial. When women continue to say this you’re never going to speak up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:28 PM
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You haven’t named any examples of bad people you think have good personality. Just abstract what if scenarios that don’t actually happen. Because there are no bad people you think have good personality in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:20 PM
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Again I’ve seen this weak time wasting strategy a million times. You have excuses to deny the comment mean this then when you’re provided a comment you can’t deny you run back to “only one women said this” requiring more examples to then reply “most women don’t say this” as if you need thousands of examples. You’re wasting time and no examples are going to solve anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:17 PM
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That’s most people. You still cannot name one experience of you thinking a bad person has a good personality. Which you’ve said as soon as you realize you no longer do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:08 PM
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I do not ever label them as having a good personality because they have that one trait. That is all that matters. Once you realize they’re bad people you no longer label them as having a good personality. Because having a good personality is contingent upon them being a good person. Being kind and generous are literally in the definition of a good person. You cannot have a good person who is not kind and generous. Mean and selfish are not what define good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:50 PM
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Because I know. I’m here to tell you what’s been said. Not debate if I’ve seen what I’ve seen. When this topic comes up again I’ll once again repeat what’s said on this thread and continue to be told how wrong what’s being said here is while no one else speaks up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:44 PM
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Exactly. Why aren’t there any bad people with good personalities you like? Bad people are not kind or generous. If someone is a bad person liking animals doesn’t save their personality. Them being a bad person is dominating the definition of their personality. Not liking animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:38 PM
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I’ve seen how this plays out a million times. It’s so predictable and a waste of time. You all use the same strategy. It’s very easy to simply say “no woman has ever said this” when hearing something you don’t like because you think it’s unflattering to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:33 PM
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You’re not going to admit this but anyone who reads your comment can see you’ve just contradicted your entire post. I’m done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:17 PM
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I don’t save comments. If I did you’d make an excuse as to why it’s ok. The typical strategy. It’s a waste of time
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:15 PM
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So why don’t you like these bad people that have good personalities? When I asked you said no. I know I don’t consider anyone I think of as a bad person to have a good personality. I don’t like anything about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:12 PM
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If niceness is important in a relationship that means most men who are in a relationship are nice and good men and are selected for this. This would imply that men who are not in a relationship and can’t find one aren’t nice or good. You’ve just supported the belief that men who cannot find relationships are bad people and used studies to do so. These studies completely oppose the OP and tell us that men’s rejection is a statement to their “goodness”/character.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:08 PM
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All over this sub and Reddit in general. That’s the exact point I’ve brought up before. That telling men to just be a good person is exactly what creates nice guys. If they actually listen to this advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:02 PM
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So you like terrible people? Their personalities are what you are attracted to and want to be around?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:00 PM
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I know exactly what you’ve said and responded to all of it. Quite basic line of thinking. You don’t have a response.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:58 PM
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That is why I will say it’s not valid advice when it’s constantly repeated everywhere as a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:50 PM
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You can clearly see great personality and good guy are packaged together even in that sentence. As they typically are with this topic. I’ve already proven why. No one is looking at the biggest asshole in the room and saying he has the most attractive personality. They include being nice as a part of this attractive personality and give it a false sense of importance. Not me. I’m the one calling them out for it because I know it doesn’t mean shit and I’ll get nothing but pushback that supposedly …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:48 PM
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Being a good person is a main component of having a good personality. That is why your answer is No, you don’t find bad people enjoyable and fun to be around. It is implied that men who don’t have a good personality aren’t good people. I’ve said countless times here that attraction is not related to character. Yet women here continue to go on tantrums about how this isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:37 PM
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They do say this and blatantly. You’re defending useless generic advice of “be kind” instead of holding them accountable for virtue signaling. You’re using feminist rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:23 PM
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You missed the point. Being a nice person is included in the package of “personality”. It’s not separated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:19 PM
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You didn’t because the answer is no. Its accepted that being a good person is also a part of having that so called “personality” and when it’s told to men that they don’t have this personality it’s also claiming they aren’t a good person which comes with it. Plenty of men who are assholes can still get women. So it’s not a requirement. Yes men need to be physically attractive. Yet if I say this I’ll get endless shit for it and hear about how ugly men can easily get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:18 PM
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So talking to and being out with complete assholes who are rude disgusting people is fun and enjoyable for you to be around? You find men who are not nice, polite, and are bad people more attractive because they have a great personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:04 PM
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So talking to and being out with complete assholes who are rude disgusting people is fun and enjoyable for you to be around? You find men who are not nice, polite, and are bad people more attractive because they have a great personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:04 PM
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Then these shouldn’t be championed as a solution as they are here. I shouldn’t be hearing about how the 5’3 fat guy has no issues with women because he’s got a great personality and is a good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:50 PM
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You don’t know much about this sub then. It’s said constantly. I’ve brought up the point of needing to be physically attractive endlessly here and continuously get bullshit about how ugly people still find relationships and countless excuses. Yet when this post comes up they’re all quiet and have nothing to say. When they start with the just be a good person trope those here are nowhere to be found.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:45 PM
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I just saw that exact line here recently. I guess you’ve never heard “just treat women as people” either. It’s so frequently defended here that women simply want good and nice guys. And they are never questioned by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:36 PM
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Women literally say “just be nice to us” “just be a good person” to men about how they can attract women. Implying that men who can’t find a relationship aren’t. That’s if they’re not flat out saying men are single because they are shitty people. They are all quiet now when this type of post comes up. And when they say this you and anyone who’s saying it’s so obvious this isn’t true are nowhere to be found.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:17 PM
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You brought up why they are disliked. No one likes the grocery store that charges more for lower quality products and poor service.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:07 PM
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Not going as far as that other guy because sex work serves a purpose and has value but one issue is they are doing half assed sex work (no pun intended). They usually aren’t physically interacting with men and most likely providing lazy solo content they made in 10 minutes. They don’t go through what others in their industry do and provide worse quality yet want all the same glory.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:46 PM
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That’s why meaner isn’t the right comparison. Attractive men may not be meaner to those same women who pamper and praise them. But they aren’t going to value them when they have multiple options and will be the ones to use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:58 PM
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Verbally to who if they have no options?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:44 PM
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Probably not meaner. They won’t value or care about you as much since you are one of many options to them. They don’t need to put effort in to keep you around when they have others waiting to replace you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:00 PM
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“I don’t care about height at all. I just happens my husband is 6’5 and had the kind personality I’m looking for!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:06 PM
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I’m not asking you anything and you don’t know regardless. I’m telling you what it is and telling you it is true. You don’t know the male experience. The fuck is “invest”? An imaginary term you’ve created you expect everyone else to read your mind to know. Investing is approaching women. You can’t approach women if they aren’t there.,
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:23 AM
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If your social circle does not have single women or lead to them it does not work period. When you go out there are no single women in the group to hit on and if there are you already tried. There are zero options. You can’t snap your fingers and hope single women are brought into it. There are always single women on apps and available to be approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:16 AM
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And when you’re not attractive women don’t approach you to flirt. All a social circle helps men with is putting women in close proximity of attractive men. A man cannot sit around waiting and expect women to approach him. They don’t care unless you are highly attractive. This “be approachable” is just some feel good Disney movie story to satisfy men. Not even mentioning the worst scumbags still have social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:37 PM
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And when you’re not attractive women don’t approach you to flirt. All a social circle helps men with is putting women in close proximity of attractive men. A man cannot sit around waiting and expect women to approach him. They don’t care unless you are highly attractive. This “be approachable” is just some feel good Disney movie story to satisfy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:36 PM
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Every man would probably love to do that. No one wants to swipe on apps and approach strangers but if your social circle is not leading to more women there’s no other option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:32 PM
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That’s what men try to find their whole lives. There are limited ways to get that and if a man has it he protects it. There isn’t always a source of single women available to you as a man who are also interested and won’t reject you. So, many will only have cold approach and apps during long stretches of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:04 PM
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What you suggested initially was men with a social life get approached by women romantically. Which has now changed to become physically attractive, friendly, flirty, and approachable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:09 PM
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I’ll just decide to become so physically attractive that women can’t resist. How could I have not thought of this. So easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:41 PM
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I could do that and that would involve me approaching women and not women approaching me. If women simply approached me to flirt every time I went out and was social I’d be out every single day. Unfortunately that’s not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:29 PM
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So you’ve approached multiple men to flirt with them as you defined approaching to mean and to ask for a relationship as the op mentioned?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:21 PM
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Yes that means you have to approach her to do this. This in no way means women approach men simply because they have a social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:00 PM
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That involves you approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:27 PM
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Yes with other men and women who are not single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:02 PM
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It’s not the frustration of being approached. It’s who they’re approached by. Women are insulted that the ugliest fattest guy in the bar thought he had a chance with her. She’s now just been seen and associated with him. You’ve left this part out. This is an issue before it even gets to rejection which is a whole separate issue. If the attractive guy approaches none of this is an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:01 PM
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It really is for many men. You can approach at a bar or get on an app. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:56 PM
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Having a social life doesn’t guarantee women approach you. You still have to approach them unless you’re highly attractive or have high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:53 PM
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When it’s a man who is deemed unattractive yes they are frustrated and upset that he’s approached her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:46 PM
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There is a problem if women deem you as unattractive. If it does not work it’s not a solution. It’s merely a suggestion. There is no solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:47 PM
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This is why I responded to the so called solution of being sexually assertive. It doesn’t make women like you and that usually can’t be negotiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:45 PM
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You specifically called this a solution. I already inow what happens. You can be passive and treated as a friend or be sexually assertive and be treated as a creep. Neither one solved anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:43 PM
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Then there is no solution. Only suggestions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:49 AM
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Then his solution is gone. What does treading lightly solve if a woman’s deemed a man as unattractive? You could have possibly avoided an awkward situation but does that get to the end goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:14 AM
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He’s selling being sexually assertive as a solution to dating struggles. If all I’m getting out of it is an awkward moment my problem isn’t solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:09 AM
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You say that because you are in a position of power. If women encounter a gendered issue then men who are unaffected by say that’s just the way it is it’s not going to be accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:22 PM
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I don’t see what this solves. If a man is sexual and assertive towards a woman who thinks he’s unattractive what happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:20 PM
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In what way is this better or positive for men or introverts? Men do the approaching so you meeting your husband is not exactly applicable to men. Women are more open to a stranger in person than online?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:15 PM
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If they are convenient and easier for introverts in what way is in person better?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:51 PM
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No shit. This is irrelevant. This is about women who say they don’t know any men who can’t get a relationship. I’ve explained why. I don’t give a fuck if they’re attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:04 PM
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No shit. None of this is relevant. Again. This is about women who are saying they don’t know men who are unsuccessful in relationships. I’ve explained why. I don’t give a fuck if they are attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:51 PM
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I’m noticing the women saying they don’t know any men who can’t get a relationship when they want one. That’s who I responded to. That’s who this applies to. Women without male friends aren’t saying this. They don’t have male friends. If women only allow men who are successful in relationships in their circle that’s what they will see.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:31 PM
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There is no idea that men don’t have friends here. This is what only you have brought up. Women exclusively decide who is in their social circles and dominate them. When women say everyone they know is getting married they’ve only allowed the successful men in their circles to see. Men who aren’t popular with women aren’t acknowledged or allowed in and assumed as wanting to be singe. This does not mean men cannot have circles. They will usually be with other men and their frustrations and strugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:10 PM
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Women create the circle and decide what men are included. Women hold the power and leverage as they are who men need for relationships. Decent looking women are allowed in any social circle they want to be in they don’t force anything. I’m not proposing they do anything. I’m opposing this notion that any guy can get a wife when he wants one because women supposedly only know men like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:40 PM
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“Women are not a monolith” yet they are demanding men “become desirable” as if there is some universally approved definition that all men can just decide to become.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:15 PM
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Exactly. They tried to play this off by implying attractive men are well represented when women find most men unattractive and place them in that category. The reality of what she said was the small percentage of attractive men are still dating. A large percentage of unattractive men are unhappy. Which doesn’t even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:57 PM
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Women are typically the ones who give this answer. You know zero men who cannot get a relationship on demand whenever they want one. There are definitely plenty of men who are struggling to find someone as the op pointed out. You don’t know them. You don’t see them. They aren’t allowed in your circle. They aren’t posting on IG. Harvard graduates will probably tell you they don’t know anyone who is poor. When there are hard working men failing who are the opposite of what you say your brother is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:41 PM
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Why are you under the impression that high levels of physical fitness equals attractiveness? Also this categorizes everyone who is lonely or bitter as out of shape and doing nothing. I’d imagine anyone who’s out of shape and doing nothing does not care enough to be lonely and bitter. They aren’t concerned enough to even worry about any of this. Who’s going to be bitter is the one who spends all day improving and working to be and stay fit yet still fails and is told they are not enough after all…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:52 PM
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Yes that means men have a more difficult time finding dates when there are less available women… Women are more picky also which means it’s harder to get them to agree to date you. There are more men than women on dating apps meaning it is harder for men to get dates than women. You don’t need a peer reviewed article to know 2+2=4.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:36 PM
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And Pew research reported that 61% of single men are looking for relationships while 38% of women are. Which is included in what I provided you so by your own words the study you claim is not reliable because it can be found on a google search. I don’t need peer reviewed articles to understand this. It’s an extremely simple concept. Women are more picky. If you need a peer reviewed article to understand that….
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:16 PM
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You are so easy to predict. You refused to acknowledge men have a more difficult time in dating as I said you would. You now claim google results such a Pew are not reliable when provided with evidence just as I said you would. I don’t peer reviewed articles to understand common sense. I’ve always known this as most every man does. Women are more picky. Men are more desperate. How do you not know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:02 PM
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Have you opened google? No. Have you answered my question? No. I’ve just given you more evidence that you could get through yet you haven’t touched any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:54 PM
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Type “do men or women get more dates” in google. I’m not posting anything here. You’re going to continue to waste my time. Or answer a simple question If you put an average an and women on a dating app who will have more options?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:51 PM
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He could’ve easily brought up his point without trying to flex. People like that aren’t doing much dating either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:44 PM
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“Look at me. I went on a second date and you can’t!” This type of shit has to be said in Reddit because it will be laughed at anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:41 PM
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I’ve seen your script over and over. When you’re clearly wrong and being purposely stubborn about an issue you demand peer reviewed studies. You get them and proceed to deny they are true. Wasting everyone’s time. This is from you who claimed you don’t say that men have it easy yet refuse to acknowledge they don’t immediately afterwards. We’ve now had a pointless discussion when you now know the answer to why this topic keeps coming back is exactly what you’re doing right now. If you don’t want …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:35 PM
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Who are you to tell anyone that? Women expect men to do the planning majority of the time regardless of how hard they work. I don’t need to text anyone to tell me anything because I don’t need validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:25 PM
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The issue is this is clear and obvious common sense to anyone who’s experienced dating at all. Women have more options than men. You all have seen studies before yet you don’t change. It’s a waste of time. You’re doing exactly what I said you would.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:12 PM
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We’ve got a real genius here. You can’t even comprehend what the actual question is. That’s why you’re being embarrassed in the comments which clearly is a regular occurrence for you. He just told you the burden is on the men to invite, plan, and pay majority of the time which is not equal. They do it more even if women do it on occasion. You thought your irrelevant second date line was a flex. You also don’t understand women if you don’t realize that “that we should go on another date” means yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:06 PM
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I just did I told you to look at dating apps and tell me who gets more offers. You won’t answer because you know what it is. Your first comment was “I don’t say that” in response men having it easy in dating and you’ve now totally contradicted that by refusing to acknowledge men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:55 PM
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I don’t see “first” in either his comment or the op. I only see that you brought this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:50 PM
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Are you actually trying to say you aren’t challenging this? You are. Dating apps are one of many examples where we’ve seen plenty of evidence that women get far more attention than men. You’re accusing op of not looking through the sub for answers to repeated questions while you aren’t either. The answer is I know it’s harder. Then there is no more discussion. Yet you and other women here will continue to fight it all the way through so yes you will continue to see this topic on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:49 PM
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You were really sitting there waiting to throw this insult at whoever you could find and forced it on a comment it didn’t belong on. He made the point that the burden is on men to plan, schedule, and invite. He is correct. Second dates were never mentioned nor are they relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:39 PM
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And you are precisely the reason why this is always a discussion. Instead of acknowledging this to be true you are now challenging it. And you don’t know why this topic is brought up? Create a dating profile of an average man and woman. Who’s going to get more offers? An answer isn’t required.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:18 PM
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I’m very aware as I’m not the one confused as to why a question is brought up. What’s dumb is refusing to acknowledge a quite obvious fact to be true. If you have a problem talk to the women who deny this. They will continue to be the reason it’s brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:08 PM
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Most women do not. The comments are filled with women doing anything but agreeing to what men find obviously true. No other avenue can be reached without admitting this is true in the first place. So you will continue to see this and for good reason. Until it is accepted as truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:46 PM
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You’re response is exactly why this is a continued point of discussion. You’re doing anything but admitting it’s true that men have a more difficult dating experience and through no fault of their own. If you all simply admitted this question would go away. Yet you’re still here arguing again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:32 PM
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I’m not interested in redefining what single means to portray an image of more women being in relationships or assuming that partner is a relationship. That’s not what the discussion was about. There is not data for every single point on dating. If men want a woman that will be good to him he’ll probably need to date down to get that as she’ll be more grateful. If he wants looks he’s probably going to go without that benefit. Men can be in either category.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:48 PM
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You’re trying to use your opinion that women who aren’t married are all in relationships because all reports show an increase in single women. You don’t get to recreate what single means. You are the one who brought up attractive women. That doesn’t mean they are all perfect 10s who cannot possibly date up. None of this discredits what I said. A 5 can get a 5 if she has personality issues. Men generally date down to get the full package without the personality issues. That doesn’t mean they will…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:57 PM
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You can literally ask google “is the number of single women increasing” and every article including ai answers will tell you Yes. You can’t avoid this by claiming you think women who are not married are all in relationships. This doesn’t even account for only attractive women as you’ve brought up. But none of that is even relevant. I said a 5 can get a 5 if she has other disqualifying personality issues. He’s getting looks only. He will generally have to date down in looks to get the full packag…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:17 PM
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And this is according to what? Your opinion? Do you not realize attractive women can still date up? Who do you think the rich and high status men are dating? This makes your opinion of a surplus of single women irrelevant. This is without mentioning the growing number of single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:48 PM
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A 5 can get another 5 if she’s has the personality issues, disagreeable, high number of previous partners, bitter feminist attitude, bad fitness habits, etc. He’s getting looks only. The top percentage of men won’t want to put up with that. Men will generally have to date down in looks to get the full package. When this generic baseless advice like get a haircut or shower and use cologne is given it’s not going to attract good looking women to men who are already having difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:39 PM
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Lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:55 PM
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We all know the answer to this. They aren’t going to say it..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:49 PM
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The problem is that doing this does not make him become sexy as the posts title suggests. It’s not that there isn’t a valid reason it’s just not a full solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:46 PM
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He was so incredibly amazing yet you left him. Doesn’t sound like he was that amazing at all. Sounds like it’s very possible women would entertain more attractive men while in a relationship with a not so amazing guy she’s on the verge of eventually leaving anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 10:11 PM
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So there’s no such thing as divorce or breakups since you’ve gotten everything you could ask for in a relationship. According to the women on this sub you don’t settle and you all describe your man as a god that has no flaw and can never be replaced. There is no man on earth better than him. Any other situation is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:29 PM
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The half the population trope doesn’t work. Majority of these women are unavailable to be in your dating pool and the few that are you probably won’t encounter most if them in an appropriate setting to be introduced. The ones you do meet most likely aren’t interested due to high standards that you have no control over. Men do not have this giant pool to pick whoever they want out of. Aggressive dominant and dangerous men are rewarded by women. Passive gentle and kind men are ignored and are bori…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:10 PM
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What on this list isn’t common? Other than them being described at a high level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 02:22 PM
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These are all very common standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:47 PM
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Every one of his points have merit. They are just capped at too high of an expectation. Every point is valid and expected from women. Theres not one item on this list you can say isn’t relevant. They just need more accurate descriptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:24 PM
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You do understand men cannot just be a decent person and watch women come flooding in to cold approach them right? That’s not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 12:53 PM
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I’m not concerned with what party is winning. I’m watching the growing issue of frustration with dating. This is just one side effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:46 PM
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They’re probably not losing support from these people but there are more and more men joining this group.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:16 PM
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That’s the thing there really isn’t any real benefit to men here. You closest you may get is more anti dei and anti woke agendas. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:14 PM
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I’m sorry I just did not understand and was trying to. Glad you are happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:12 PM
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This all sounds unrealistic. Over multiple years you had zero men pursue you and found zero single men attractive while 100% of the men you found attractive were whatever unavailable means. You also are not asexual whatsoever and have a strong desire for intimacy as men do yet this had no effect on you whatsoever to even give standards a second thought. Logically this doesn’t add up. You probably have a very low desire for intimacy which is why I see this as very comparable to asexual. I can tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:30 PM
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If you had no sexual attraction to any man for years at a time how is this not at all asexual? What is the difference between you and an asexual in that time period if you had no attraction or desire to pursue?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:19 PM
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What do you mean you didn’t find anyone? If you are the one that pursues as you said why did you not pursue any men for that long?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:25 PM
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That’s what asexual means… Not having sexual desires or attraction towards anyone. Which you just said you did not have for years at a time. You’re telling me you had 2.5 years and no men had any romantic interest in you? Because this doesn’t sound likely. And this had no effect on you and did not once make you consider lowering standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:51 PM
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Because anyone who has gone through years of no intimacy understands the feeling of becoming more open to less than ideal relationships to feel that love again. You are displaying asexual traits of not having intimate feelings, desires, or attraction to anyone for years at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:40 PM
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And listening to you would grant success?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:31 PM
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Why don’t you tell us since how to flirt then if it’s that important. You can solve everyone’s issue right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:01 PM
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Probably because of the several rejections that would have needed to happen in order for a woman to go years with no intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:19 AM
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Can we buy charisma upgrades from temu now? Why do people here treat humor and charisma as a learned skill? Some people are funny some are not. Someone like Dave Chappell isn’t a comedian because he has a masters in comedy. That’s naturally who he is. Also charisma and comedy are not universal. The people I think are funny or charismatic will not be the same ones you think are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:21 PM
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Bbbut all the short and fat man I know have no problems with women!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:17 PM
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You couldn’t wait to say that. I know men don’t do this and I’ve just said most women don’t either. Most people don’t have such a lack of interest in intimacy that they voluntarily go years without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:55 PM
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I don’t know but you are acting as if you are, which is why I said “unless you are asexual”. That means you can answer if you are. I rarely if ever see women go years with no dating or romantic contact. People who are not asexual don’t voluntarily go years with no intimacy or dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 08:56 PM
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I’m sorry but that’s highly unlikely unless you are asexual or something. You were just that undesirable that no men dated you for years at a time and you felt no desire to interact romantically during those periods?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:14 PM
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Food is used to satisfy hunger. So can I tell you to just only eat bread and drink water everyday?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:23 PM
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Why talk to human beings when you could talk to ai? Why go to a restaurant when you could eat bread and water everyday?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:33 PM
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To answer this you would need to learn what it feels like to actually be alone and then experience this for a prolonged period of time over years. Not a few months of flirting with various flings in between relationships. This isn’t defined as the wrong person. It’s someone who gave you a chance that you’re trying to make the best of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:15 PM
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I see what progressive women say about men online and in person. You can say you are full of support yet that’s not anything I see. Me going around telling everyone I’m progressive isn’t going to solve anything relating. Me being around progressives doesn’t solve anything. I’m not looking for political advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:35 AM
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None of this is specific to men. You’re telling me I need to be in a progressive city as if that’s going to solve anything relating to women and dating. The women in this sub coming here to talk shit about men all day are all progressive. Politics is not solving anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:45 AM
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Neither one of them give a shit about helping or encouraging men as you’re suggesting. You’re not going to play this off as a political blame. Progressives, specifically feminists, just lost a large group of men’s support from their hostility towards them. That’s just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:15 AM
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I’m not giving advice. I’m out constantly. Which is why I can call out how bullshit this is. But you don’t need to step outside to understand women want attractive men. It’s literally common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:06 AM
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They don’t give a shit about personality if you haven’t passed the looks threshold. Which involves many genetic traits. That’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:32 PM
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If you can’t understand that looks are most important in attraction and women don’t want to date ugly men there is no discussion to have. I’m not debating that women don’t want to date ugly men. There is not a more basic obvious fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:28 PM
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Progressives are the main ones I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:19 PM
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You just said them pretending to be outgoing is lying. If you’ve told that to non social men that is pretending to be someone they aren’t by your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:17 PM
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It doesn’t matter to men. If he’s being true to who he is here he’s failing. How many times have you or others told guys to just go outside? Just be social. Just get a social circle. If any you’ve told any man who’s introverted this you’ve told him to lie. He has to lie to win or face being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:23 PM
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Normal humans are capable of giving bad advice. I don’t see this sentiment of women wanting men to be happy. Their response to issues is suck it up. Toughen up. This is not what I think this is what I’ve received and I’m here to discuss it. Your claimed experience is equivalent of a fantasy to me. I can’t change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:18 PM
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Reality is concerning. Not for you but for me. I’m here to study and evaluate reality and that must be done in generalities when there are not specific situations included.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:28 PM
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If I’m giving everything I can in doing my best then their opinion of what they deem me or anyone else holds no value. Their opinion does not determine my success. It’s not the advice I’m talking about determining this or being accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:25 PM
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That’s not what the advice is. It’s to be who you are. Theres no mention of honesty and integrity. That can be general advice but if it doesn’t lead to attracting women then it’s not useful to solve the dating issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:18 PM
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They can also deem men who are being the best they can be unworthy mates also. They deem whatever they want regardless of logic. So what value does this even have?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:05 PM
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I’m not talking about this. Where does women’s opinion of who’s an unworthy mate that you mentioned come into play with any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:04 PM
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Those who see through the bullshit and be the best they can be can still be rejected. This isn’t accounted for in the comment. At that point they’ve gotten the same rejection treatment as the loser. You’re letting women’s opinion of who passes as a worthy mate determine whether the man is a schlubby loser or a man who is his best version.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:43 PM
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This doesn’t add up. If a woman deems you as an unworthy mate that makes you a schlubby loser? Those who see through the bullshit and be the best they can be can’t be rejected as an unworthy mate?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:33 PM
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Couple problems here. Women don’t admit to giving bad advice if it has worked for them. They just do it and then claim they never did or try to excuse the times they did as being justified. Either they don’t know it’s wrong or won’t admit it so this discussion won’t go far. Also their goal usually isn’t to help. It’s basically to get men to think they have an answer so they stop talking about it and being angry to make these women feel more comfortable and safe. Of course this is short term and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:23 PM
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A dictionary would help you tremendously to find the meaning of those words. You haven’t even scratched the surface of understanding this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:12 PM
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Now we’ve gone from claiming lie to false. Interesting how you’ve changed course. Let’s copy and paste exactly what the discussion actually was since you can’t grasp the concept and want to add random garbage to it. “Yes it’s delusional to dare say women are attracted to physically attractive men and physical attraction is based on genetics. What an insane idea…” “The discussion is about women and how genetics determine physical attractiveness and confidence which women are attracted to”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:52 PM
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No one is ok with this. Men just get to a point where they don’t give a shit anymore after the toll of extended periods of romantic isolation start to break you down. The societal pressure of others being in relationships while everyone has no time for single activities add to it. Men are going to fold and sometimes women will give them a chance because they feel the same pressures although not as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:43 PM
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Nothing said here was a lie. Nothing was said here about giving it up. We’re calling reality what it is. You clearly are not keeping up with the discussion and just came in to run your mouth about men with no end goal in sight. Confidence is developed by positive experiences which physically attractive people have more often by default which is a good point brought up to discuss. That’s why it’s called a fucking discussion which you clearly have no intentions on contributing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:28 PM
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The discussion is about women and how genetics determine physical attractiveness and confidence which women are attracted to. We are not wrong because you think you can find one woman who goes against the grain and is not attracted to this. That means nothing. These unattractive men can date bottom tier overweight women if they’re lucky. Not because these women don’t want physically attractive men. Because they know they can’t get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:05 PM
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Yes it’s delusional to dare say women are attracted to physically attractive men and physical attraction is based on genetics. What an insane idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:53 PM
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I’m getting tired of being fed bullshit about how women love ugly men. Just listen to how that even sounds. Ugly men get fat women and average women if they compensate with money and clout. I’ve never once in my fucking life seen an attractive woman at a club party or any situation go out looking for and hooking up with ugly men. It is extremely rare to see fat pimple face nerds pulling the most attractive women. What’s actually happening here is you are probably applying ugly to any man who’s n…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:43 PM
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Sadly we can’t even make it to that discussion. Theres already a reply to me right under this comment about how you are false and looks aren’t important. We can’t get to the fact of genetics determining looks because they cant admit that looks determine attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:30 PM
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Looks are the most important component of dating and attraction. Then social status. Then money. Women want to date physically attractive men. This is something you’ve just said is false….. Ugly men don’t “date around”. This is Reddit fantasy. They happen to be in the right place at the right time and hold on to any relationship they get as tight as they can because they know how difficult it’ll be to get another. And this will be with an overweight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:25 PM
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Blue pilled are terrified of this reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:35 PM
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What dumb is trying to hide the fact you edited your comment by saying “my comment hasn’t changed” instead of very simply saying you edited the quotations. What dumb is trying to pretend the entire context of the comment wasn’t changed after the edit and using that as an opportunity to discredit my comment that would have never been said if I had seen the finished comment. Anyone reading this thread is going to see that I was correct this entire time and confidently despite you trying to deny. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:41 PM
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You can’t comprehend that I never once said the text changed even with me telling you 6+ times. This is getting bad. I said it was EDITED and the QUOTES were changed. You replied that your comment DIDNT CHANGE. Explain how the fuck can this be true in any way? You changed the quotes like I said you did. My point was that women ate attracted to men regardless of if they are good or bad yet they pretend that they care about this which men are fed up with. This is also what you’ve quoted that verif…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:26 PM
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Where did I ever once mentioned text? I’ve explained to you 3-4 times that your comment was EDITED yet you still don’t understand. You tried to lie by saying “my comment didn’t change” when you should have just admitted it in the first place until after realizing I’m not falling for your shit. Your original comment was that this is about men claiming there are no good confident men. I proceeded to tell you it’s more about the fact that women are attracted to men regardless of their morality than…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:06 PM
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I literally just said I know no words were changed and the quote of the last paragraph was changed which made it appear it was added and not quoted. I already knew this. Now I have to say it again. I never said words changed I said and knew the comment was edited which you denied. You said the literal words “my comment didn’t change” to now “I changed the html.” Funny how that happens. I’ve proven my point already which is common sense to most. Morality has shit to do with attraction. You can pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 10:29 PM
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What you don’t understand is I know words that were not changed. It was the quotation marks which you know you edited that made it appear that last paragraph was not quoted and added which slightly changed my response. You want to talk about laziness when you couldn’t even create a response and tried to pass along some recycled comment. I didn’t say I don’t feel like using your link I said I’m not. Anything to run from the fact that good or bad morals have shit to do with attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:59 PM
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When I leave I see several assholes and bad people in relationships. One of many reasons why I know being good gets you nowhere when it comes to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:51 PM
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I saw your original comment. The quotes indents were not there as they are now and I’m 100% sure of that. Now it’s fully quoted. That’s why I responded with what I did. You’re not about to gaslight me because you don’t know what happened to your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:42 PM
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This is all exactly what I said it was. Women virtue signaling to pretend good morals are what make men attractive. Which you’re all trying to pivot away from to bringing up long term relationships. The comment literally said I’ll remain single if I’m not “good”. Yet you’re defending this. Character is of the lowest consideration for women’s mate selection and you all are desperate to avoid saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:39 PM
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Being unattractive will result in being single regardless of how “good” you are. I don’t need to focus on morality I’m fine and certain about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:42 PM
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“So you’ll just claim ignorance? It doesn’t need to be a peacock display, you just have to show your a good person that’s fun to be around and want the same kind of future as her”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:23 PM
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They aren’t being open about it, especially on this post. It’s filled with women arguing how guys being good will result in attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:56 PM
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I’ll continue to have common sense and understand that being good does not equate to attraction. Seems like you can’t handle the reality of this despite you admitting it on this same post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:15 PM
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The point is it doesn’t matter if he’s and asshole or not. What matters is if he’s attractive or not. Women virtue signal to pretend they value good morals when it’s of little importance to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:42 PM
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People being around you does not mean they want to date you. It does not solve the issue. Being a bully means you probably are not a good person. Yet they succeed in dating and are considered attractive which you’ve admitted to. They clearly don’t have to be good yo be attractive. Proving it isn’t the solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:37 PM
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You’re oversimplifying this. This is the reason for the op. You can’t just be a good person and women come flocking to you. Being a good person does not solve the issue of attraction. Women thinking I’m a good guy doesn’t not mean they are romantically interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:16 PM
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You are projecting = I have no answer to the ugly reality so now I choose petty replies. What I think should or shouldn’t be done is irrelevant. It’s optional to attract women. I don’t give a fuck if it’s a choice. It’s not determining attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:35 PM
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Right bullies are soo attractive, until they bully you. Don’t throw in the hero who stands up to bullies as if there is some moral standing behind this. Very slick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:27 PM
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What changed is your comment because you’ve now edited it to quote the entire thing. Women are attracted to these “confident” (more like arrogant) men regardless of character. You don’t get to long term relationships if she isn’t attracted to you in the first place. The idea is that men know there are good natured attractive men. They aren’t attractive because they are good natured. It’s completely optional yet it’s pushed as essential.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:24 PM
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I’m not turning this into some bragging competition about how great I am. I don’t know what women expect me to be display to impress them and I’m not a fan of structuring my whole life around being able to impress women. I have no idea why women have liked or been in relationships me or other guys other than being attracted and receiving some benefit of what we provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:11 PM
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“And women are attracted to self-assured, sociable, charismatic, bold, non-neurotic, etc. men despite some of them being allegedly “bad.” She’s not necessarily seeking “bad men.” She’s seeking the bolded. Many good men have the bolded traits too.” Yes, she wants these traits despite them being good or bad. Why are you now changing to add having good or bad character is more important? You’ve previously shown you understand this has little of any importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:59 PM
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So bullies are more attractive. Women marry date reward and spend their time with the most attractive men. That’s even worse. Women date who they think are the best men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:42 PM
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I know. To them it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:31 PM
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Not looking through comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:30 PM
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Again this assumes you’re already in a relationship and doesn’t tell me anything. Romantic loneliness as this post is referencing means you can’t find relationships in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:27 PM
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Again what responsibility? What adaptation?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:24 PM
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You can’t define what responsibility that is. You can’t define what adapt means. These are generic catch all buzzwords to pass the blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:09 PM
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The real idea here is that women reward “confident” and physically attractive men regardless of if they are good natured or not. It’s that being good natured doesn’t mean shit despite women pushing the idea that they care so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:01 PM
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You don’t outlift genetics. You don’t outlift status. I don’t care what helps when it doesn’t solve the issue. Women here really think that going to the gym just solves everything. Don’t know what happens when women think you’re unattractive and you have muscle mass? They still think you’re unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:51 PM
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Women here defending bullies tells you all you need to know. They are “confident” so they are better people. Morals means jack shit. The “new world” lmaooo. This “adapting” line is bullshit and can’t even be defined. More ways to pass on accountability to someone else. Again you’ve jumped to the point of what’s done when already in a relationship. The point of this is issue not being able to get in a relationship in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:45 PM
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You should probably look at what you say before you actually say it. You just proved why all of this “adapt” bullshit you’ve been pushing is false. Men aren’t looking at this and saying oh well I choose not to “adapt”. You don’t adapt to genetics. You don’t adapt to unrealistic expectations. This is not a fucking choice men are making. You can’t pass the accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:40 PM
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So rarely seen amongst small number the men they find physically attractive. Let’s call this what it really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:11 PM
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Nice and good men are not exceedingly rare by any means. What a nasty and hateful insinuation towards men. Let me guess woman are all angels and this doesn’t apply to them right? While the dirty men are all evil people. In reality nice and good are not attractive to women. They are boring. Woman want the most attractive men. You aren’t rewarded by attention from women for being nice. You are rewarded for being attractive. Being nice is simply a bonus. Not a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:50 PM
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I see this exactly in your example. You said you were a light drinker. He could have picked up on this and said we can go to the bar but I won’t order any alcohol. He heard you he understood and adapted. Yet this is not “EQ” or acceptable to you because you wanted him to cancel the bar altogether. This was picked up on but because it wasn’t responded to in a way that you wanted there is no “EQ”. There is clear discrepancy here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:41 PM
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Understand and adapt to what you think is important which is specific to everyone saying this. He probably picked up and adapted to plenty of subtle things you don’t give a shit about. I said initiated because that’s what you defined as what you wanted. We’ve went from initiate and communicate to now understand and adapt. This is shifting all over the place because this is not a universal term and its definition is unique to who’s using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:33 PM
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This is not an argument of who you think is disgusting. It’s that this list is not a universal and definitive set of standards with objective answers. It’s being played off as just do laundry where the specifics are much more detailed and ridged than that. If a man does any of these items but it’s not in the way that woman detailed it to be done then it doesn’t count. The ridged details are omitted here. That goes for every item on the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:26 PM
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This is exactly what I’m talking about and why EQ is a fluid concept with many unique definitions. You said you simply want a man who initiates and communicates. You had that. We can’t use this one definition. He didn’t initiate what you wanted him to how you wanted him to so the fact he initiated does not matter. There is very much a discrepancy of how it’s done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:19 PM
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And there you go. The perfect example. The man isn’t incompetent and does do his laundry. He doesn’t do it the way YOU want him to therefore you will call this wrong. That’s one of the many unspoken parts of this list.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:13 PM
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Let’s confirm. So the only time a woman has ever dated an asshole is because every man she knows is an asshole and there are zero nice or good men around her? Or else she would surely be with them instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:11 PM
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EQ is whatever that individual wants it to mean. There is no actual definition for it. You’re saying initiates and communicates. Initiates and communicates what? He can initiate plenty of things but it only matters that he initiates what you want him to when you want him to and how you want him to. Same for #3. A man can do laundry every month and be fine but if you want it done every week then it’s now wrong. He was never struggling or incompetent yet still did not pass your bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:50 PM
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I find this funny because I don’t think I’ve ever heard a woman mention an etf or express any interest in them outside of Reddit which I would love to hear. Couldn’t think of something they’d be less interested in. They want spenders who go on trips go out to eat and are constantly doing something. I’ve been told savers, stability, and other things of this nature are boring. The disconnect here is that I could clean up thoroughly, be a 5/10 or do any of this stuff mentioned yet still be rejected…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:39 PM
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Great then we’ve established that #1 should be removed from this list of what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:29 PM
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So what are we doing here? Justifying women’s choices of why they choose assholes or denying that women want men who are assholes? Because we’ve now started to shift away from the original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:58 PM
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At some point it might sure. But it’s not a requirement nor is it in the top most important factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:44 PM
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Plenty of republicans have wives. Point 1 seems to be irrelevant. Not trying to diss them, just a group I’m using because I know won’t be refuted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:33 PM
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There are plenty of people who do these perfectly fine for them but they don’t do it the way l you want them to or certain women want them to so it’s assumed to be wrong. This list is so simplified and there’s so much at play here that’s not mentioned in the existing items. Then the list should also be 3x+ its size to list the unspoken requirements that are actually there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:29 PM
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So most men look like trolls and are under 5/10 looks? Men are confident and you don’t like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:25 PM
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I’m guessing this is a troll post? At this rate you basically will date any guy who asks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:02 PM
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Nothing you’ve just mentioned means anything until the physical attraction is there. Physical attraction is the most important part of attraction. Without it they could care less about what you say or how you act.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:52 AM
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I’m not even fully opposed to that. But this assumes women are lining up to befriend me. They aren’t. They’re typically cold and closed off for anything past a brief small talk that I’d have to initiate 90% of the time. It’s not as simple as be nice and treat me as a human being and become friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:39 AM
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You don’t seem like the type to be out all night with awkward red pill guys who struggle with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:54 PM
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For me absolutely. This is said as if women are down to befriend any guy who asks. You need to pass women’s bar for acceptance the same way you do for relationships. Male friends are one thing. I meet guys all the time. Women are usually not open to getting close to. Particularly with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:34 PM
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What is gained out of this post? Don’t be like everyone else. Don’t play it safe. Stand out and pull. I mean yeah we know that. What have you done to stand out? What is not playing it safe? What’s different about you? I don’t have any details or examples of what you’re talking about and I don’t know what you’re thinking when saying this.
/r/seduction17/03/25 11:18 PM
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So you’d be willing to befriend these men and attend their plans?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:54 PM
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There is a clear defined answer to losing weight. You can diet and exercise. People don’t need to do much to know what needs to be done. There is no clear path to being attractive and getting women. You can’t tell men just do it when there is no clear understanding of what’s needed. The issue that’s brought up here is that when you tell guys to just do it it’s not helping. Having an unclear path to the goal is what drives men to these podcasts and content which are of the few places that give an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:51 PM
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We’ve got to stop downplaying the importance of physical attraction. You’ve gone right into the looks don’t matter camp. This is ALL about being desirable. If you don’t fix that you don’t reach men and you don’t solve anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:37 PM
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That’s the thing. When you really think about it they don’t have this great advantage of social skill that’s talked about. They automatically are warmly accepted into most social groups while men aren’t. They sit back and expect men to initiate and carry every interaction. This is not skill. These are social advantages they gain by default that require no ability. They don’t have to mask well because they aren’t doing the heavy lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:44 PM
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There are men like this that do nothing, or the ones who lean on “personality” to solve their issues. They may benefit from hearing this. But I can’t say that this is the sole reason for everyone’s failure. There are plenty of men who have made these sacrifices. Who have put in the work and are not some slob. Yet they still come out as “unattractive”.
/r/seduction28/02/25 08:51 PM
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Ive seen so much blue pilled bullshit about how all you need to do is be in shape lately I forgot that was even a red pill talking point. Women claiming they’ve never seen a ripped guy without attention from attractive woman. It’s normally people who don’t know shit about fitness or lifting who say this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:07 PM
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Exactly why the “just lift bro” blanket advice has become useless. It’s for specific men who already have other characteristics to start with. Blue pill tries to sell gym + shower = matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:17 PM
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Chances are if they aren’t getting female attention they aren’t their type and no amount of effort will change that. This is a just world fallacy to think effort = female attention. The men who are deemed her type or attractive can then fight it out for her based on effort. If you are not in this group to begin with you aren’t getting in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:48 PM
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If a man is not your type we’ve now established that he’s not going to effort his way into being your type. If you put in the effort you SHOULD get some attention. In a just world yes. The world is not fair and that’s not actually how it works. There is no guarantee that you will receive female attention from this. And when men are told they should receive female attention for effort as you’ve just told me, they are naturally going to be frustrated and vent once they realize it’s not played out …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:30 PM
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I don’t need to do anything. I’m fully aware of the situation and have broken it down so even you could understand. You had no point to begin with and you’re just talking just to talk. You’ve proven nothing. You’re talking about how obvious it is women go for the top 10 percent yet you have women here constantly disputing this which is why I had to explain in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:18 PM
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So majority of men are all attractive to you if they simply put in effort? You’re rejecting men only because of their effort? A haircut and wardrobe is all that’s needed and they can be with you right? You’ve completely ignored that any uncontrollable factors have made your decision of if a man is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:17 PM
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I answered a question. If you can’t handle that answer I can’t help you. It you’re husband was sleeping with IG models and came to you for stability once he was done since they didn’t want a relationship with him it would be upsetting. Men work through and accept this. That doesn’t mean it’s not upsetting and it may need to be explained to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:11 PM
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Again men do like women and do want relationships with them. This is an issue you created and nothing I brought in. They come with baggage that men need to navigate through and do so because they like and want a relationship with them. This example is unnecessary baggage from chasing the top men. Someone asked why it’s upsetting and I explained. Something being upsetting does not equal doesn’t like or want a relationship with. It’s something men work through.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:03 PM
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We’re at the cringe point where you’re celebrating “natural selection baby” like you won something. Like you’ve done something. A worsening gender divide is a negative for everyone. Yet it’s pushed a fueled by those like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:54 PM
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No because when you eliminate that phase of chasing and running through the top men that everyone else wants the entire process is going to be better and this whole issue is avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:22 PM
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I’m not even sure if you’re responding to the correct comment. I clearly just said men accept this in order to get a relationship. They’re going to be aware. Women can act recklessly and still get married. They don’t have to worry about poor choices. There’s always a guy willing. Not sure who told you otherwise. Attraction is not a part of this. Men are obviously marrying women they find attractive. That’s the main reason they look past this bullshit. If the man had higher standards he’d be goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:05 PM
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The post is describing the whole situation being caused by her having too high of standards. Chasing the top men and allowing them to do as they please then after realizing they aren’t so great and aren’t providing long term relationships she decides to give you a chance. Most men accept this in order to get a relationship. It just happens that women don’t understand how it feels to go through this so it needs to be explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:52 PM
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This always comes back to the same answer from all of you. You all have the same just world fallacy that men can’t possibly put effort into working on all of the categories and still be rejected. You have to maintain this worldview that any man’s failure with women is due to his actions and never to uncontrollable factors. Now you can blame men and have zero responsibility of the outcome. When a man does everything he’s supposed to do and still comes up short he has every right to be frustrated …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:30 PM
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This is what you wanted to know.. It doesn’t sound like you are handling this well. Average men aren’t invited because the fun happens with those top guys. Once the fun is over you might get a chance because you offer stability. I’m explaining the situation that happens, not asking if I should be married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:10 PM
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I’m not I’m only explaining why being in that situation is upsetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:04 PM
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When you’re in a relationship with one who has been made their way through the “top” guys it’s upsetting. It’s going to feel like everyone once those stories start rolling in. When the party you weren’t invited to is over then you get a chance. But with a strict set of rules that now apply that no one else had to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:59 PM
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Because more often than not that is what happened. She wanted to know why it’s upsetting and that is what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:49 PM
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They’ve been with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:44 PM
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When everyone else has already experienced your wife and she’s already given what you thought was special to them, it’s not so special anymore. It’s upsetting. Idk why settling is a huge issue everyone settles in some way, no spouse is perfect. But knowing she’s with you only because the top percentage of men didn’t want her is going to hurt always.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:20 PM
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I’m sorry men don’t really do this. I already told you what men need to exaggerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:47 PM
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You ask a man his preference in women he’ll tell you. His intentions are not a preference. I’ve already explained to you what men need to exaggerate. It’s not preferences and it’s not to appear less shallow. This is a completely different topic. Anything to avoid the accountability for lying I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:39 PM
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Yes, you do see it because their actions don’t contradict their said preferences and they gain no value from it. That’s why this op was made and why women don’t say this about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:27 PM
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And now you’re mad I’m not a naive shut in who believes whatever they’re told at face value. I’ve not agreed with anything you’ve said. I told you I do not believe what’s told to me at face value. Sorry I know better than to believe everything I’m told by proven liars. I’m sure it’s annoying when your poor logic is highlighted, but that’s what happens when you have poor logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:24 PM
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I already saw exactly what you wrote. It’s to believe them before seeing their actions. It’s to believe thier words at face value without them having to demonstrate they’re trustworthy. If you read what I wrote I said I do want to look at their actions. I don’t give trust before I know them as an individual as you’re declaring others should. They haven’t made any actions yet so they receive zero trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:16 PM
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Ok not entirely sure what’s going on here but in reality an average guy would have gotten rejected by the perfume line and look of disgust as if they can’t believe he had the audacity to speak then they would have proceeded to ignore him as they planned on doing anyway while hoping the most attractive guys in the place approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:17 PM
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I don’t see men with the urge to hide their preferences on a mass scale. They just don’t have the need to appear less shallow or kind. I don’t even know what point they would downplay. It’s just not common and a more well known theme with women. Men would need to lie more about their incomes, height, size or body count than their preferences which hold low importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:01 PM
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You are part of that group until proven otherwise. The only reason it’s a group is because of men exclusively dating women. I get the same line from every liar. To just believe them, instead of proving why I should believe them by actions. This is not a baseless assumption it’s proven based on experience and repetition and something I need to protect against.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:42 PM
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Because that’s what this post is about and this isn’t really an issue with men. They will easily admit they value physical appearance above all. Women aren’t generally confused about what men want and don’t get mixed messages about what they value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:36 PM
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I hear and everything that’s said to me. I believe none of it until I actually see it done. Yes blue pillers do listen and believe them by default. That’s why they’re an easy target to use, manipulate, and cheat on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:30 PM
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It may be intentional due due not being aware it may not. What difference would that make for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:06 PM
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This comment is another perfect example of trying to preserve women’s moral code by insinuating they cannot possibly be proven to have any shallow tendencies. Anything but admitting they find these physical traits attractive. You can simply watch their actions. You’ll see they magically pursue and date all of these men who have the qualities they don’t care about. It’s totally just a coincidence though right? Her husband and her exes who happened to be around 6ft also had great personalities. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:53 PM
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You cannot just accept everything you hear at face value. People can and will lie to you and when you accept and believe everything you’re told you are too easy to use and manipulate. This is not even a scenario of just assuming they lied without reason. It’s a discussion of what we’ve seen and experienced them as a group consistently lie or be deceptive about. Why would you accept something at face value that you’ve seen a group constantly lie about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:47 PM
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I’m not looking for recommendations because we live in 2 separate worlds. I’m only clarifying the point of the op that it’s not about individuals having different preferences and more about the preferences that are described which are not accurate. Intentionally or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:37 PM
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