So a general social welfare movement in which women do all the work but can’t advocate for the things that would best improve their own quality of life.
You’d have to compare it to the alternative. Before: people didn’t believe women and ignored the problem After: people don’t believe women and are less able to ignore the problem
It sounds like you’re just getting mad at words without understanding what I’m talking about. Some gym bros have adopted tips, tricks, behaviors that used to be popular on proana sites 20 years ago. Those blogs were shut down, banned from social media sites and girls were institutionalized. Now, those gym bros are doing the same thing and being applauded for their discipline and rewarded with influencer money.
Gym bros reinvented eating disorders It’s trippy seeing them do the same things that used to get girls institutionalized in high school, but be celebrated for it.
I honestly wonder if women don’t get turned on in dangerous situations as a “fawn” survival technique. You can google fawning, it’s like fight or flight.
What if it’s not important? Like taking the trash out. I have to do it myself 100% of the time and I can’t communicate to my partner about it? Or was I correct in saying you are advising women to leave their husbands if they won’t take the trash out?
lol that only measures “heroism” in a way that caters to men (public, strength required, short term thinking) and ignores heroism that women do (private, long term thinking required). Source: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8485292_The_Heroism_of_Women_and_Men
You said it’s sad to be happy my life is better than my ancestors. I’m disagreeing bc we all know this is what everyone wants for their kids, grandkids, etc.
https://preview.redd.it/on01muyc7w4e1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=454a4970dc4cd7007da870ad2f4e0dc5399672a9 Love to live the life my female ancestors never dreamed of!
That’s bad manners. I’m not surprised men are lonely when they talk about doing rude things on purpose. It’s also a fat woman’s right to remain single if she is unhappy w her available options. This is America. 🤷♀️
I already have it. I’m saying if you wanna be in my life you have to have it too. “It” = conflict resolution skills, the ability to take care of yourself, ability to cohabitate in a healthy, positive way, etc
I mean, you believe gold diggers exist, right? They don’t trick men into relationships? Not interested in the advice of someone I wouldn’t want to trade lives with.
Everyone gets tricked. There’s no age limit. Elder scams are common. I’d be happier in a happy relationship than single but I haven’t met men like that so I’m happier being single than married to my available options.
2/3 of my reasons can be enjoyed by unmarried red pillers, 3/3 if you think about the psychological benefit from hypothetically knowing the backup plan is available if you change your mind
It’s hard to argue bc my aesthetic is more minimal and I love how big my room is and refuse to full it up. But what I’m saying is compatible w chic masculine minimalism which the men’s photo is not. This isn’t a perfect representation, it could be a lil more masculine, but this is an example off the top of my head: <image>
He doesn’t look poor to me, just looks like he doesn’t care to make things nice for himself. Not talking about money but like a frame and a nightstand, a color or 1 piece of art he likes.
Because they want women to be desperate to marry bc it makes them 1) easier to trick into sex 2) easier to partner w if the red piller ever decides he does wanna settle down 3) more fun to degrade when they are single since the assumption is all single women are unhappily single. Being happy and single takes away their fav weapon.
No, red pillers are going over the wall, I think there’s a couple okay ones. I also think most would drop the bs when they see the loudest/meanest ones go over the wall.
Gonna guess it’s overwhelmingly male politicians taking play out of school. Like yeah men can’t be crude everywhere? Is femininity under attack bc it’s not appropriate to cry everywhere? If men won’t do “any of the housework” then yeah, I expect their partners will complain about their deadbeat men. It’s unacceptable to live w someone and not do your fair share of housework, much less ANY housework. Like Jesus. The vast majority of men are with women who ALSO WORK. It’s not like 9/10 times this …
Yes. I agree. The dif is traditional masculinity says all the things that help you become resilient are gay: experiencing your feelings instead of running from them, vulnerability, relationships (all kinds), seeking help if/when you need it, encouraging yourself (instead of berating yourself), etc. So both people will experience hard things, but one will have more resilience to weather the storm.
Not really into slam poetry but art shows are fine. I prefer art parties, like a lil more hair down than a show. I love book readings too. But yeah stuff like that is fun.
Is your sis not getting a 19k purse that appreciates in value over time? That’s literally exactly what I’m talking about… You could collect rare books, not bc they are meaningful to you, but bc they hold value in case you ever need money, you can sell them. And they come in a huge range of prices.
I wanna go on a bougie gay vacation w my gay tech bros and my bi boyfriend and dance all night and take mushrooms on the beach and stuff. Straight men could never. 🙅🏻♀️
So then choose things that aren’t sentimental but hold value well so that you have assets 1) to build wealth 2) to hold wealth in case of emergency. Be pragmatic.
Men can fix their own mental health problems by divesting from traditional gender roles: https://www.snf.ch/en/HTIYFmVEjJyqgfkE/news/conforming-to-roles-increases-mens-risk
I just learned Martha Stewart doesn’t allow men to use the bathroom in her house, she has a porta potty outside. This might be too based for me. Seems like it would hurt their feelings.
Oh sorry. You think children should be allowed to vote too? Children shouldn’t be allowed to enter into lifelong legal contracts. There is no reason a child would need to marry before 18.
“Virtually every community or scene” isn’t broken up into male experts and female fair whether fans. Use logic. Like… I’ve never expected men to be interested in poetry and go to poetry readings either me? Get real lol.
Average girl could also be on a date w Chad, unaware that he is dating other women. His disinterest frees her up to date and average man as she takes it at face value and nexts him.
I’d say my “feminine” qualities interact w dating as me being afraid male partners will yell at me for my feminine qualities (ex: crying, not wanting to be rude) than being turned off I’m not feminine enough. I’ve never worried about not being a “real” woman or feminine. I also don’t believe masc/femme “personalities” are inherent, so the insult is meaningless to me.
Where do you put it? I have some on robinhood but that’s not “owning” btc that’s just investing in btc. I have been adding to btc my cash app but it’s prob the same thing. Haven’t looked it up yet.
It sounds like you had a conditional relationship with your ex, which is why she’s an ex. Perfectly fine/normal to still having some kind of love there. But you agree it was conditional.
It sounds like you’ve never even been in an adult platonic relationships. A conditional relationship would provide the feeling you’re talking about, you just have to build and maintain trust instead of being gifted it for no reason.
I already have it for myself. I’m being asked to add in another person who may have completely different ideas about how to live life and then maintain it.
I know why ideally having a partner is a good thing. I’ve seen it work out for a couple people. I haven’t had experiences w men that lead me to believe it would work out for me.
I never thought a man would make my life perfect. That’s a strawman. I can’t see how a man I don’t have a lot in common w (so he’s in what men call “perfect match” territory) would make my life better. Like yeah having a roommate would save me a lil on my mortgage I guess?
Yeah I’m a homebody that stuff is always a def no for me Although my auntie is a homebody reader like me and her husband of 30 years is a triathlete who does this shit all the time. They have a good marriage (I never say this) and she is fat (always has been) and he has always been very athletic. He’s also the breadwinner. Would drive red pillers crazy.
Okay and now those men are gonna have less protections at their jobs and skyrocketing inflation /rising prices. Trump is not going to help them. So if they were concerned about the economy they would have voted for Harris. These people WANTED maga. Otherwise they would have voted to protect their own interests. For some reason everyone is just desperate to say “well I voted for maga but I don’t ACTUALLY want maga.” 🥴
Was totally out of nowhere. Never talked about anything like that before. Had known him a couple months. I was just like “yeah uh huh” and grey rocked him out of my life.
Men watching this: “wow I’m so progressive” https://preview.redd.it/lsxoxhdvrh4e1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=368729fdedf58d5840826260bb7182f36f77e25b
If you scroll up men are talking about how low their standards are and how they pursue women they don’t even like. Sounds like the express lane to a sexless marriage 🤷♀️
No I don’t want anything to do w the average person, I want to love them and ensure they have all their basic needs met from a distance 😂 I’m a lil snowflake w obscure interests I’m not built for everyone
I mean yeah why would I assume a guy who pursues me, is interested in conversation, asks me out, is a good date, fucks me, etc is…. NOT interested in me? Couldn’t possibly be bc he’s tricking me on purpose 😂 Must be bc I’m not a mind-reader 😂
How do women not currently experience co sequences for choosing the wrong man? Examples: — having to raise a child alone — experiencing abuse — getting cheated on.
Even if all men did 50/50 women still would have less to invest than men bc of those loss of earning potential during pregnancy and the first year of the child’s life, which compounds over the woman’s life. This is biological reality.
https://preview.redd.it/qcmvdfxke64e1.jpeg?width=279&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1f370961a5bb74d6cfb7bf4ead2983a8fbebb22 Which Parker Posey smoking a cig are you?
So you don’t even know abortions have increased since roe was overturned. How much evidence do you need that you are not actually motivated by babies dying 😂😂
I don’t agree bc I literally dont want compliance. I don’t want someone to be intimidated into doing what I want (which is what a threat is). I want to get out of the situation my boundaries aren’t respected.
It’s not rocket science bub. We track maternal mortality. When women die bc of pro life laws, it seems pro lifers would want the laws fixed so women don’t die, you know, bc pro lifers claim they value life. They would also care more about how EFFECTIVE laws are in REDUCING abortion vs what best allows them to punish women. Actions > words.
You don’t constrain someone’s behavior, you adjust YOUR behavior enforce YOUR boundaries. Ex: leaving a relationship w a cheater bc YOU won’t tolerate their cheating
If you wanted pregnancies to be safer your actions would match up w your words. You’d want laws that make pregnancy safer and reduce abortions. Not just laws that punish women for abortions. Actions speak louder than words.
You did. All you’ve talked about is punishing women. Not “pro life” stuff like reducing the number of abortions or making pregnancy safer. It’s literally just about punishing women for you.
Yes you only care about children when you don’t like the circumstances in which they die, not if children are dying from easily preventable means. That’s not someone who actually cares about children.
https://a.co/d/a2x2zcM The is the best explainer of what I think (religion, like many other things, is an umbrella but everyone knows no umbrella keeps you perfectly dry, we are aware of holes in what we believe) But if you go deeper then it’s about how language and concepts are always just approximations: https://a.co/d/b20pUxD This is a bunch of academics talking about how nonsensical their own religious beliefs are: https://a.co/d/13k7ZFF Also about epistemology and how contrasting ideas of m…
If the mortality risk is similar the differences are already accounted for. Pregnancy is riskier for a short time which is why the rate ends up being similar to cops whole careers. The differences are already factored in
“Similar” and “same” are different. Yes, they are similar in that a person who cares about children would think both parents have a duty to save the lives of their children. But if you only care about abortion bc of misogyny, then I can see why abortion is the only instance in which you care about saving lives.
I didn’t say they were the same. I said if you really thought abortion was murder you’d care about children more than you do based on you thinking a father has a right to deny his child an organ they need. Why would you be okay w a child dying in this situation and feel the father should not be compelled to save his child’s life if you claim to believe life is so precious that women need to carry every pregnancy to term?
You gotta compare a control to a variable If you believe pregnancy is not risking your life then is that consistent for other risks w similar outcomes? Do you think pregnancy is “dangerous”? Do you think being a cop is dangerous? Bc these things have a similar mortality rate.
You said women leave healthy relationships. So their standards are wrong and yours are right. But you refuse to answer a basic question about what those standards are and what an example is.
So the only time murdering a baby is wrong is when the mother does it by not carrying to term. If a dad neglects to sacrifice his body, then it’s not murdering a baby and it’s not something you care about?
Like a young person has less communication skills than an older person. Not always and you are an example of someone who doesn’t experience this. But it seems basic to acknowledge this exists. Not everyone knows basic communication. Half of Americans read at a middle school level.
Another attempt to distract from having to provide the most basic answer about your point Almost as if it didn’t originate from you actually thinking about this topic but just wanting to shit on women…
Dying, damaging their bodies medically or cosmetically, being vulnerable for 9 months (like, having a physical condition that requires you to depend on others), financial security, having a high needs child, there’s a long list.
So where do you see the line of demarcation from a healthy “enough” relationship to an unhealthy relationship? What should be tolerated and what shouldn’t?
Okay but 80% of divorces are initiated by women. So it seems like both women and men agree the relationship is unhealthy but respond in different ways. Which is how men staying is being used as an example of men’s morality in this post.
And what’s your standard for the treatment human life should get just bc it’s conceived? Like entitled to use mothers body obviously, but what about the dads body? Are children entitled to their dad giving them any organ they need, even if the father dies? Are children entitled to child support once they are born? Welfare? Should we pour money into Gaza bc human children are being killed? What’s the standard that you apply?
But if you’re logical, why wouldn’t you just fix the relationship (troubleshoot it and test out different solutions like any other engineering problem) so that they 1) don’t have to suffer indefinitely 2) don’t get left by the woman (not saying breaking up is bad but obviously if you can troubleshoot and have a healthy relationship that’s better for a number of practical reasons like alimony and child support).
Not for anyone who is comfy w that. Not for anyone who isn’t doing it as a weird test. Just for me I would have to be dying in the next 3 minutes before I’d ask someone for help esp someone I’ve only hung out w twice. Plus I am too demure lol.
That’s repulsive to me 🤷♀️ you’re fine to also find it gross and not date a woman like that. Yes. If you forget something important once in awhile, fair enough. If you forget something important every month, that’s maybe not an attractive person to partner with.
I’m usually very pro luxury treats but if you get it every month it’s a good idea to skip for a month, like you’ll appreciate it more when you get it back. Like remember where you came from lol Edit: if you need nice nails to fit in/be confident at work then mani only
Yes that’s exactly what I’m saying. I think people are using it as an insult despite it also meaning virgin not because it means virgin I mean incels are an fbi watch group. That’s why it’s an insult. It’s not the virginity stuff it’s the stuff that got them on the watchlist.
I would never ever ask the guy for help in this scenario so you’re not talking about me fyi But people forget stuff they need all the time. You’ve never run out of tp, procrastinated picking up a prescription, or let your car get low on gas? It’s the same thing. Easy to play armchair quarterback. Also showing up to someone’s home empty handed is weird, so you perceiving it as a test is weird.
What did you buy for yourself? I got this: https://preview.redd.it/mqz2ygvu6w3e1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4bf7ee10b5ea919ac15ca68755db71d161f53599
Ok but most Americans live paycheck to paycheck and don’t do good financial planning. Like yeah in the best case scenario it COULD work out, but for the average woman who tries it’s stupid.
Because it’s two different levels of vulnerability. You can sleep with someone for a variety of reasons before you trust them enough to communicate. Not saying this is good, but it’s common. I kind of think of it like the one who is comfy enough to push the action forward can be comfy enough to make sure the other person is okay. I actually really enjoy doing this when it’s me bc it’s more intimate and enjoyable to be on the same page
I’d do a lot of information gathering (what’s the most likely scenario, what do men and women who have been in this position have to say, what has my partner said about their wishes, what’s best for his care vs available resources, etc) I can’t say whether my guess about how I’d react would be accurate. I’d prob just google stats. Like yeah I’d say I’d stay and do my best to make sure he had the highest quality of life. But if the failure rate is high I might be overestimating myself.
It’s very easy to see how men’s lives are harder than their fathers and grandfathers bc women weren’t financially independent and therefore were more desperate to partner. Even good choices may have some drawbacks. It’s just overall the right thing to do.
Then tax them on income. That’s not what Trump is doing. He is paying billions of dollars to deport the 96 billion in income instead of spending substantially less money to tax them better. What a fuckin business man.
Because the only reason to be anti-immigration if you actively want more workers in the economy (birth rate) is racism. Illegal immigrants paid 96b in taxes in 2022. All revenue Trump wants to PAY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to eradicate on day 1 of his presidency. The only way this clown logic makes sense is racism.
Wdym “claiming” women literally are in the military and have done this. Idc about war and think the military is brutal squalor so I have no aspiration to do this and do t claim I could. But I presume the people who say this are talking about women who actively want to be in military and pursue it. That’s already happening and has been for decades
Porn brain is just another form of capitalism brain. The way we all conceive of people has been fundamentally changed by video porn. It’s just a phrase to refer to that.
In male culture what does that mean? Like what do you think of a man who is with a trans person? Like he’s freaky? He’s a simp? He’s not a “real man”? Or what?
I don’t really understand what point you’re trying to make. You’ve never heard an insult before? I used a derogatory phrase to refer to people I don’t like. Btw no one, and I mean NO ONE, is cooler than an art hoe. 😎🚬
Yes that would be one example of oppression. Not the only form lmao. If you think abortion is oppressive you have the right to not get one. This is America 🤷♀️. That’s freedom.
Not sure how any of what you said connects Oppression being on the ballot makes it not oppression? Being able to stay single means women can’t be oppressed in any way?
Yes and a society where men don’t have to die for their rich bosses would be even better. At least in hunting or war there’s a point to it. If we built a society based on humans, not money, we wouldn’t need unsustainable amounts of energy and we wouldn’t be cavalier about sending boys and men to die in coal mines. lol what childhood trauma causes feminism?
Also if cheaters are bad people (they are) they are going to be more likely to false report and game the system than non-cheaters. That’s what happens w abusers vs victims.
For instance, women used to do most healthcare (makes sense if you think about women in caregiver roles + midwifery) then men invented medical school and barred women from attending. Suddenly medicine was male for hundreds of years.
“Best manner” Lmao No one could look at the state of the world in 2024 and think the system we built is the best The loneliness epidemic alone shows this is not true We could have built a world where everyone’s basic needs were met before some people have second homes. We could have good food (I’m rfk for a min), stewarded our natural resources better, made products that do more than lip service to the health of the end user and the planet. Instead, we chose a system that prioritizes making mone…
Why can’t they get healthcare? Because men disproportionately support conservative policies that make it harder for the average man to access healthcare?
Your face gets bashed in either way. Do you want 1) your brain to get hijacked with emotion or 2) to be able to stay calm and level headed and know the pain is temporary and you will get through it?
Any woman who wants kids and doesn’t get married is an idiot as there are more protections for her. Being that vulnerable (physically, financially) without at least the few legal protections you get from marriage is dumb. If you don’t want kids, yeah marriage is a scam, don’t do it (unless you want to).
Google “dbt skills” and you’ll find like 30. You can play around with them. Some are for like “it’s an emergency I’m so overwhelmed” and some are for when you’re calm but trying to change behavior or something.
Cool. I def wouldn’t. I’m not gonna talk about vulnerable shit in front of people who might be assholes about it. If someone does that in therapy the facilitator at least checks them.
It might be. It might not be. But there’s a whole scale of how bad the problem affects your quality of life than can be changed even if the problem can’t.
Yeah I think that’s true and therapy can help. It has limits, it should acknowledge that the world is fucked up and capitalism is keeping us down, but it’s helpful.
Before therapy: “other people treat me bad bc they can see that I’m bad” After therapy: “other people treat me bad 🤷♀️ sucks for them but not really any of my business 🤷♀️”
The difference is your friends could shit on you or tell you to suck it up while therapy groups have rules about what you can do/say so people feel safe enough to be vulnerable knowing they aren’t going to be told to man up. Not saying venting to friends isn’t great, just saying there is a difference.
Takes a lot of time and building up skills before you can trust yourself enough to unpack those things, and idk if the peeling back of layers ever stops. But the noise the issues create can stop. I went from “can’t think about this because it’s too painful so I’ll act out to distract myself” to “wow this thing really hurt me but I’m so ashamed I’ll just keep telling myself to get over it” to “I guess telling myself to get over it won’t work, wow it must have been really bad if it affected me thi…
Usually it’s not the problem that hurts us, it’s how we think about and deal with the problem. Therapy gives you tools to tolerate unpleasant emotions and experiences more effectively (like, without spiraling or acting out).
It depends on your personality. I find working a job easier. 🤷♀️ Some people are more naturally suited for childcare. My sis works and has a SAHH who cares for their kids. Every time she talks about is she sounds so relieved to be working instead of parenting 24/7. I def feel the same way.
If someone wants monogamy, they are free to look for a partner that shares their values. You are looking for a way to force one of those women to partner with you.
Okay and? You don’t make promises you can’t keep just because someone is complaining. I think what you’re trying to say is you might get dumped if you don’t offer commitment. Which, yeah, people are allowed to want monogamy.
Gym selfies or a lot of wealth flexing like every pic is him in another country/private planes Obviously gym and travel is also done by normal people but I feel like you know what I mean
Usually bc his pics/bio seem like someone I’d meet through friends. There’s a relatable aspect to it that is hard to find. Most men I don’t click w. Or if his bio is interesting and he’s good “enough” looking I’m open to a convo. I always tried to left swipe overly attractive men/men who looked like players so it’s not as simple as “just be top 5%” (tho obviously they had plenty of matches too)
(Not on apps anymore) I don’t wanna swipe on any guy I don’t wanna talk to. Whats the point? I get a notification and open the app only to be disappointed?
I have moving trauma bc people acted like they didn’t wanna help me move so I just got rid of all my stuff so I could mostly move myself until I could afford movers. Still hurts my feelings to think about 😭
The harm is: He could rape/murder you (rare but it happens). Think about how “understanding” lots of guys would be if you went over there to hook up and then changed your mind and wanted to leave. Some would be perfectly respectable about it, some wouldn’t. Pregnancy (rare if using bc but it happens) STIs (condoms don’t work on everything and lots of times condoms don’t end up happening at all. Shame away but stats bear this out.) You could get emotionally attached. He could be rude or talk shit…
I think men think the ultimate form of valuing a woman is introducing her to his family/friends and/or marriage. Is that what women value the most from men? Some do. There’s one guy I met at a club and hooked up w like 15 years ago that still watches my stories/dms me (I don’t respond) that has been married for 13 years and has kids w his wife. Just approximating on the years but he got married very soon after we met. Would I value being her? No. I think I got the better deal. I don’t want him a…
Depends what the woman values. Does she value a rock and being introduced to his friends and family? Getting to have his kid and clean up after him? Then she’ll think the wife is better. Does she value passion and effort? The side chick is getting more of that.
You’re on Reddit where people like to write out their thoughts. Go to tiktok and you’ll see plenty of of women proudly talking about how much looks are important to them.
Good morning to cool people only who get this meme 😎 https://preview.redd.it/gej7qhvc3a3e1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4d377f99b7d1bfce8bc735425667e4b5d30c96a
If racism was based on facts we’d see people who study data become racists as they gain information. The opposite is true. Racists are uneducated buffoons.
But you said that was specifically due to biological entitlement. Surely you have a reason to believe this is the cause and not some other explanation.
It’s not just current income tho, it’s the woman’s lifetime earning potential being affected. Take 5 years off and you’re prob getting a shitty wage to start and you have to go up from there.
Men don’t like giving women half the couples money at divorce. Only way to live in a world where each person is responsible for their own financial situation is to farm out all aspects of pregnancy/deliver/childcare and then go 50/50 on the bill.
Yeah I had no idea who he was. I don’t follow fighting or whatever he does. Has he raped a man so violently the man had to have a tampon surgically removed from his ass? That’s just as awful then. Please let me know what his other crimes are so I can be an equal opportunity hater. 🙏
You’re saying since he’s already a known asshole we can’t discuss him being a rapist? Or what is your point. It’s men who are defending him btw so I guess they didn’t get your memo.
But men always put themselves in the shoes of a solo provider when discussing housework while they are literally not solo providers. It’s so disingenuous.
But all those groups, except men, primarily commit in-group violence. White people are less likely to be attacked by a minority person than another white person. Women are more likely to be attacked by a man than another woman.
That’s the same logic behind hoarding wealth rather than ensuring everyone’s basic needs are met. It benefits the person willing to be selfish at everyone else’s expense.
Yes. You can make a logical argument that is factually false. You are talking about how the best debaters may not be painting the most truthful vision of what they are debating. This is true. It’s actually an argument in feminist philosophy against debate (“the adversary method”) as a form of truth-seeking. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t objective measures by which someone could be considered a good or bad debater.
Yes debate has metrics by which someone can be objectively good or bad. Are their arguments logical? Do they commit obvious thinking errors? Are they persuasive? Does their conclusion follow necessarily (and urgently) from their premises? Have the succeeded in changing anyone’s mind on the scope of the debate or on subissues?
You weren’t clear if the person is rephrasing it. Any good debater is going to make sure you have the same base understanding of the issue before wasting time getting into the weeds on it.
I have an amount of tasks I have to get done without much interaction w others. There are no set hours I’m supposed to be working. I have times I’m more and less productive than others. In office this used to look like starring into space, working from home it can look like the image above. I try to use good judgement generally be an employee that would be okay with my boss seeing how I’m using my time, but it do be like that sometimes 🤷♀️ esp w creative work.
Faithfulness isn’t expected. Until you commit to each other. What’s the point of committing if you don’t wanna commit? Just… don’t take that extra step as no one should assume faithfulness if you’re just dating.
Restating someone’s beliefs back to them is in the process of understanding. You say “I believe x” I say “I’m hearing x” We agree on what is being said and can move on w debate Or You say “I believe x” I say “I’m hearing y” You say “no, x is different from y in this way” And we can move forward w the debate understanding what is being said
That’s a barometer of relationship health. You want a relationship that’s healthy enough that misunderstandings can be solved w this kind of trust, not a girl who just extends this kind of trust to anyone no matter the circumstances.
Time will tell 🤷♀️ People said it was hysterical to think roe would get overturned. Instead of admitting it happened, now they just say “it’s up to the states”. A bunch of bad things are going to happen that conservatives will similarly hand wave away. To what extent? We’ll find out together!
I feel like kids eat healthy snacks that their moms make, like “girl dinner” Like I literally make ants on a log and cut up fruit and feel like a lil kid 😂
Not sure why your standards for either scenario wouldn’t be very high. Your quality of life and business outcomes will depend on this person. And it’s hard to guess what people think is fair compensation. Some people are more attracted to me than others. Some will say they want 100k more than I’m offering, some are overjoyed by what I offer. Life is more complicated than red pill truisms.
Men say it all the time. We should be able to read chads mind and see he is only pursuing us for sex. We should be able to read random men’s minds and see they have good intentions. Saying we shouldn’t have to talk about relationships or conflicts, etc
Lack of women in above the line roles in the industry Same sexism as in Hollywood at large, which is actually very behind other industries in terms of gender equality. 90% of directors are men and 80% of writers are men. Even when women helm successful films, they are not given the money and opportunities of men with similar success. And they are allowed less failures. Men can direct flops and continue to be gifted opportunities, women can’t.
How would Kamala be the next Obama? Bc they’d both be president? Like, what are you trying to say? Doesn’t sound like you are the person to say who dems should be catering to if you make weird statements like this… you’re a trumper.
If you believe it’s hysteria you don’t have to reason. We’ll know one way or another in the next decade. Plenty of my irl people told me I was hysterical for thinking roe could be overturned. Incidentally crickets from all of them when it happened.
Haha that’s funny bc I find hiring talented, reliable people to be incredibly difficult even when it’s a job lots of people would want to have. The person has to have talent at the job, be reliable enough to sustain effort at it over time and then be a fit for the role/company. Big ask.
Yes. I pointed out you keep saying the incorrect time frame. I think it’s weird to have such strong opinions when you’re not getting the details right.
Again it’s more than just finding out you are pregnant. You need to make a decision and find an available appointment to get in w an abortion provider which may involve time off work/travel which is a big obstacle for some people. This time period may also involve telling the dad, letting him have time to decide how he feels, etc.
I didn’t say they were defined by degrees. I said you make it seem like the degrees are different by an order of magnitude, not that the definitions are wrong. If most issues of misogyny could be solved by men leaving women alone, but a notable (as you used it as an example) example of misandry is women preferring not to encounter men in the wilderness, those problems are of a different order of magnitude.
I mean you make it sound like misandry and misogyny are very different levels of problematic. Like if men just ignored women that would solve most misogyny.
You’re changing the subject from “how did feminism help women” to “why do women date imperfect men” Feminism allowed women to leave when they discovered men were bad. Before they would most likely be trapped in a house w this man for life. That’s a big improvement.
I feel like seeing people disagree w the news or say “that’s awful” would do this but so often the comments are full of people doubling down, “they did nothing wrong”, “that’s not abuse”, “he/she could have done xyz”.
To be fair without feminism they’d prob be married bc making women economically dependent on men does force them into being desperate enough for the vast majority of men to be partnered!
How is preferring to cross paths w a bear vs a man in the wilderness misandry? Surely misandry is when women actually hate or harm men, not just preferring not to be around them.
Rad fems literally believe men have lots of problems, many of which would be solved by feminism (ex: getting rid of gender roles would allow men to form better relationships w all kinds of people and be less lonely).
I mean women are hoping for an emotional bond. But marriage isn’t assurance of that. Might as well stay at the hookup level where men are willing to at least try.
Yes I think there should be a better word to refer to misogynistic men who are in misogynistic male spaces online that has nothing to do w virginity as virginity is neutral.
Yeah fresh thread Remember to be a brat today 🍏 https://preview.redd.it/scbmrrlyt32e1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=570d49d5136ee561557552be5f4b631628de7cf8
I assume blue collar men are happy w blue collar women? Lots of women want a manly blue collar man and not an office worker w soft hands. Just speaking for myself, blue collar men complain about my personality and wish I was less sensitive and took life less seriously. Prob too much of a tangent for what you’re saying, but my point is just, you don’t have to worry about appealing to all women, lots of women like blue collar men.
The couple loses half of the couples belongings. If a man loses half of his belongings that means it was a 100/0 relationship. The vast majority of men are with women who have jobs so that’s impossible.
I used to binge drink and party for years. I quit drinking almost completely and told my doc and she barely acknowledged it 😡 I was expecting a parade in my honor 😡
There’s like an international hot dog day. There’s no reason not to have a day for everyone who wants one unless it’s like International Nazi Day or something.
https://preview.redd.it/94wqego3ew1e1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f14d4fba2921b3178c7ff689e5fa01506a56b8c4 Don’t forget to fight for gender equality today 💪
I don’t have any friends who are so immoral or mentally ill that they are the cause of bad relationships bc then… we wouldn’t be friends. My friends dating issues have been caused by men not wanting to commit (but also not leaving her alone) or their partners being selfish assholes (spending joint money recklessly, non-consensual sex stuff, etc). I have one friend that toes the line up to “too selfish” but when I’ve kinda asked her partner about it, he had no idea what I was talking about. So if…
Yeah I will never understand wtf those people are talking about esp if they are American Got into a long fight w a guy here once who was like “living in poverty is fine” even after I showed him how it reduces your lifespan by a decade.
“More chill” than a baby isn’t saying much. I had a 3 year old for 8 hours last month and couldn’t find 5 min to order a pizza. I eventually called her parents and asked them to pick her up early bc I couldn’t take it anymore.
So men are unable to refrain from bullying a woman they are not attracted to? Why else would you conflate having preferences and bullying? You don’t think there are good men?
14/15 39 Lots I was kinda unsure about saying yes to but I felt were more yes than no. I can really get in my head, and did for many years. But when I’m in a good place socializing is effortless and so life-affirming.
Yes? Is it worth fighting their non-abusive parent for more or less custody? Idts. Why waste family resources (money) and further erode the coparents relationship to do that? Doesn’t seem in the best interest of the kids.
I didn’t watch but I got excited when I saw it and almost did. I watch parents w my aunties growing up so nostalgia I wanna see all the pretty gowns Prob some interesting whackadoodle patriarchal stuff happens Judging women’s appearances 😓
Yeah you shouldn’t do that. I’m not sure how she’d ever be able to trust you or think of you as a good guy. Would have to be something she brings up and then you can inquire about obstacles and offer to pay if she brings up money/insurance. Easier to just date someone you already like. I’ve been w fat guys so I can always fall back on 🤷♀️
It’s primarily about women achieving equality but women exploiting men would be antithetical to feminism. Like we don’t want to uno reverse patriarchy. The larger ethos is a non-hierarchical cooperative system that is intersectional where the community works for the vast majority of people, not just the few at the very top.
https://preview.redd.it/m2byj40xar1e1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92f496aa509de41b62e37dc8795ba003223f5419 She’s literally sooooooooo stunning and I never even like blondes
I mean ostensibly men who work full time and don’t see their kids much, or don’t have primary custody can still be considered good dads? So why not me?
I mean what’s the worst that’s gonna happen? No parent gets zero custody unless there are documented reasons for it so I’m gonna get every other weekend and send a check 🤷♀️ I already do that w my nephew 😂 If he’s abusive and I worried for the kids safety then I would fight.
I feel like class signifiers are very loud when it’s below you and silent when it’s above you. So you won’t think “he’s doing well for himself” you’ll just think “oh he’s not cringe like that blue collar guy who is also talking to me” (I think this is bad just explaining how I think it works)
I think living as a man would be like living in squalor. Which is probably why I’ve had an aversion to men my whole life. As a boy all emotions other than anger are punished out of you. Growing up you are beat and bullied if you don’t conform to “masculinity” Sent to war or to dangerous jobs to die or sent to school and a good job to make money for your wife and kids All for the eventual goal of having a happy family but since you repressed emotions due to bullying and trauma and refuse to be vu…
Yes 💜 Kiernan Shipka plays don Drapers daughter as she grows up and goes to an east coast boarding school… Love the Perkins family, went to see the other kids band a bunch too.
Okay so I think you’re confused? Married men and women aren’t doing either thing. And at least for 4b I don’t think people doing it seriously think it’s ever going to be anything but a small minority of people doing it.
When you’re upset some people instead of talking to you about it will act like it’s just a huge inconvenience to them that you aren’t happy and compliant 24/7. “Here we go again 🙄” as if you are always being hysterical and dramatic.
https://preview.redd.it/yezrp7edip1e1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9b4a717f6be5d1b90992f256029735ccb8f99ed Me Also I can’t believe we were robbed of a sally draper spinoff, tho you could argue that’s The Blackcoat’s Daughter
I enjoy lots of corny music, maybe my fav night of the last year was dancing to corny music at a street fair, but the songs you mentioned are just over the line 😂
It’s just curious bc I’ve seen lots of videos of maga dancing to it when no one else ever plays it bc it’s so corny. The subtext being ironic is secondary.
Jarlic is so bad 😭😭 If you can afford it garlic paste in the tubes is the best way to go. But garlic is so cheap I don’t mind wasting it in the press either.
I mean he’s not healthy looking Seems like he’s addicted to several substances So there is hope he dies soon 🙏 Maybe he will take a bus load of maga billionaires into the sky like the titanic sub
