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whenever men bring up a woman’s n-count sex is entirely demistified, treated almost like sports, something that should be enjoyed because it “just feels good to our bodies” how we shouldn’t shame women for having it for the sake of it… when it comes to outing so called “nice guys” sexual desire gets framed as this lowly impulse that dehumanises people lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 12:34 PM

I guess johnn lennon was wrong about women, they are the republicans of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 12:15 PM
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women care about the sales pitch more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 12:58 PM

why would women go on dates with guys they don’t wanna even kiss?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:40 PM

This woman is most likely going on dates with tall and fit men. She is competing for the same type of man in-shape women are. This is like a fat guy only pitching out for blonde blue eyed women who look like Taylor Swift and bitching how “shallow” they are when they would reject him. Thicc women have zero introspection in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:21 AM
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How did the "man vs bear" even became a thing among liberal women? These type of "man/animal" comparisons were made by alt-right types on forums years ago, I remember in one thread on stormfront where they were discussing that how they'd feel safer passing a pack of stray dogs at night than a group of blacks at in Chicago. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:21 PM
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if a man is looking for a relationships, and not a friendship, he should be upfront about it, acting he's interested platonically will just make him look like a dishonest "nice guy" with ulterior motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:16 PM
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"talk to women as people" Women are also people who have sex and make babies. I have no interest in doing any of that with my male mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:53 AM

people dislike it when average guys get ballsy like that and advise them not to turn the vibe sexual at the begging, but then accuse them of being "nice guys" with ulterior motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:39 AM
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Thicc women/women over 25 generally don't arouse me at all. thicc women are the most appealing to me, but they tend to go for bulky meatheads on steroids, because they're the only people bigger than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:57 PM
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"being used for sex" is quite a .... Patriarchal view of sex, as if sex was solely for male pleasure of course it isn't, when it comes to consensual relationships between adults it always takes two to tango, yet women will often times frame it this way, with the exact terminology. It makes it sound sex is something they give out as a reward mechanism expecting something in return. They like to think of themselves as empowered up until the moment things don't go their way, then they're victims of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:54 PM
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"every woman has her type" "my type just happens to be tall, atheltic men with buzzcuts" that's like the type of vast majority of women. Its the equivalent of a guy saying "I like blondes with tan and big boobs, basically Pamela Anderson, but thats just quirky ole me hehe" .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 03:42 PM
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"people like attractive people" still obfuscates the fact of how much narrow the criteria to be a attractive man is compared to the woman. Saying "people are attracted to what is attractive" is as much of a empty speech as politicians saying "public health is of great value" and one panelists idea of good public health are guidelines put forward by the NHS the other a nazi eugenics program.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:24 PM
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due to aforementioned dynamic being in place, a lot of these guys never get the chance to show how they would treat a woman differently. You're fighting a strawman here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 01:40 PM
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this is just the "socialists are just jealous of successful rich people" argument in different form.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 01:33 PM
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this only works if you’re already attractive relative to the environment you find yourself in. Im asian in a all white environment and 99% of women filter you out based on race and ethnicity already, bouncing from one approach to the other is bound to happen because finding a single girl that would be open to date an asian guy is a numbers game, it makes it look “desperate” but what else is there to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:07 AM
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“she was just being her touch feely, bubbly self”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:07 PM
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*cites a literal gangster
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:18 PM
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they are not that good at concealing anything, jesus woman, they’re visiting cons in prisons so you can’t spin it as a “she didn’t know” situation. The thing is women think their clits often and just project a positive personality onto a guy who is tall and had broad shoulders. Its called the halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:02 PM
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pleasing passive personality works well with making friends and in your career. . But it actively hinders you with dating and then women wonder why young timid men are turning to "alpha" gurus like Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:20 AM
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They're usually people who take a while to learn the social requirements of a role. these men can never be themselves, women literally expect them to perform masculinity as a standup, let me guess for a lover the role is non-nonchalant masculine badboy or something of the sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:57 AM
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"Personality traits you may be fine having as a friend might not be what you want from your partner for one." let me get this straight: the girl who told him she wishes to find someone like him instead of the douches she dated/hooked up has a "compatibility" problem with him, but is compatible with the "jerks" she then complains about to he friend? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:53 AM

im merely being descriptive of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:29 PM

women on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:22 PM

rathet despair.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:47 PM
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American women hve this weird feminism where empowerment is entwined with a suburban rat race mentality. They rail against the "patriarchy" yet choose men who fit its ideals the most. They spread mental health awareness, but get icks over banal things neurodivergent men do. They're a weird bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 08:39 AM
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they are clinical not colloquial terms you’re goofing around with as loaded language to invoke emotional response. In the 1950s homosexual was used interchangeably with pederast and child molester when people tried to give it a rapey predatory edge.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 05:19 PM
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this reasoning behind this sounds exactly like the one defenders of gay conversion therapy make since they believe that being gay has to be a consequence of some trauma that prevents a healthy heterosexual development or predatory older men grooming younger ones into the “lifestyle”. You guys really are like the new moral majority wingnuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 04:31 PM
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I hate it when this argument is made and then women bring up a extreme case like "but would you date a schizophrenic woman who shits in her bed and carves out swastikas on her forhead?" as some gotcha moment, ignoring the fact that the point being made is that how ZERO tolerance for social awkwarndess women have since they get "icks" from even otherwise high-functioning autistic men when they have a weird voice, or their hands dangle in a feminine manner... its the same shitty argument when a gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 07:28 AM
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“women are real people who feel discomfort” so do the skinheads whenever they see someone brown moving in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:18 PM

this is so western-centric. do you think the only “legitimate” sex is her behaving like a whore on spring break?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:36 PM

women raised under patriarchy don’t know what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:34 PM
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And your male boomer friends grew up during a time when Asian women were highly sexualized following WW2 this is bad cope which treats asian-american women as passive love conquests of white men instead of it being a case of mutual attraction. Asian-american women very much will seek to date and marry these guys, some of them are quite unabashedly open about their preference for white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 04:57 PM

"good non-perverted people never intend to have sex, it just happens to them when they enjoy hobbies"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:54 PM
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I'll give you an example: just look at the evolution how asian men are perceived by western women who grew up before the k-drama craze (older millennials) and those after. For older millennial women in asian men are seen as uncool, nerds, asexual, with gen-Z women its slightly better, but mostly because due to exposure to korean pop culture which showed them that asian men can be "cool". Meanwhile my male boomer friends were dating asian/black women at a time when race mixing was still looked do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:45 PM
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I said two or more times. not just a passing glance, dye contact. not just a neighborly smile, a wave or something. next thread: "why do men interpret this as invitations to approach me? I smile and wave at grandpa too"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:18 PM
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lol, turns out most people are bad at detecting flirting
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:16 PM
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a lot of women even say "we just started as friends" when sex didn't happen on the first date, even though the romantic intent was there from the go.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:11 PM
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I've seen men make out with women the same day they met them on someones wedding anniversary. I've seen women have summer flings with men they knew nothing about. The prerequisite where you should make a healthy platonic connection before a dirty thought crosses your mind is something people advise to men who already get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:09 PM
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Women my age say they want someone bearded, someone who looks like a “real man”, rarely any millennial woman is into slender asian guys. How is this my fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:40 PM
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You shouldn't be friends with women simply as a tactic to sleep with them or their friends. yeah because going through life without any proactive romantic intent will make "things just happen when you least expect them".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:44 PM
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Because IME if a guy is secretly trying to fuck his female friends, the women usually pick up on that eventually and stop associating with him as much. if a man doesn't have conventionally wide appeal due to his looks, race, ethnicity or whatever he will inevitably have to risk getting rejected by several women before finding that one with a niche taste, in a social circle these attempts will be known making him look like "that guy". What you're describing is really a self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:33 PM
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I’m not attracted to them doesn’t mean other women aren’t attracted to them, attraction is not equally distributed, neither is it unique to every individual woman, in fact, its not even a bell curve, their preferences in men overlap greatly. Its like a good chunk of women feel attraction to a minority of men. This is the only explanation to why there exist such discrepancies exist (some men having sex with plenty of women, others unable to get one date).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:59 PM
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i never understood how women are at the same time critical of patriarchy yet treat men in traditionally “unmanly” professions as latent homosexuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:53 PM
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I don't know how this correlates with anything? Do you think these men who have a lot of partners just want a platonic relationship and just happen to get sex as a coincidence?! Hell no, they're intentionally trying to meet women to get laid, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:21 PM
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I've never really seen attractive women befriend sexually unattractive men. In college I've been friends with women who didn't even register asian men in a heterosexual sense, they thought of us as "safe" to be around (pretty much like a gay friend) because the stereotype of the asexual nerd was so prevalent at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:10 PM
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for women these two might as well be interchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:55 PM
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how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:10 PM
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this study is about adolecents between 13-18 who were in age gap relathionships, not adults + it was conducted in a high-risk low income enviroment. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:53 PM
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then stop shaming young men from approaching women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:39 PM
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I really don't know what it is so difficult for women to understand here... when a lot of them reject men who want a stay at home tradwifey all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:55 PM
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key difference: no one is shaming young women for not wanting to date older men, but there seems to be a lot of ire directed toward consensual age gap relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:48 PM
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“just be a extrovert with a larger than life personality bro”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:58 PM
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I got all of these consistently and she said she likes me as “a person” not “a man” and was surprised I took it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:15 PM
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it also depends whether at least average/typical looking relative to that environment. I’m asian and can talk to women too, they like me as a friend, but not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:48 PM
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can women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:38 PM
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what were the signals?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:29 PM
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man: “no woman has ever found me attractive” bluepill: “cheer up buddy Im sure they did but girls are more subtle” also bluepill: “if she isn’t eye fucking you she isn’t interested ”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:14 PM
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several studies have shown that bullies have a lot more sexual partners than the guys getting bullied. Which says a lot about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:32 PM
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If you look awkward and insecure in your pictures, women can pick up on that. *convetionally handsome tall guy in a pink christmas sweater\* "now thats a guy who is confident in his masculinity" *average redditor in a pink christmas sweater\* "the pink sweater gotta go bro, it makes you look goofy and gay"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:17 PM
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Women don’t like awkward men, they’re very unattractive. apparently even less attractive than violent felons and rapists, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:39 PM
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They’re immediately rejected because they’re awkward. there goes "Just being yourself" around women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:34 PM
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idk if its just the women in the clubbing and bar scenes but the average woman there really seems to be attracted to a guy who has the capabilities to tear the other guys head off, at least in a hypothetical scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:50 PM
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because I get swiped left based on a 2 dimensional picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:47 PM
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the question is why are socially awkward men more repellent, than literal criminals?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:26 PM

if he wasn't a good guy then why would they invite him a long in the first place because women can appreciate a guy as a friend who is fun to have around without thinking he is attractive. He usually will be the guy women like and trust enough to vent about their toxic ex douche boyfriend, but wont even considered him an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:34 PM

Your social circle, just like the fish in the sea, is eternally changing and new people area always joining the average millenial man has 3-5 buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:25 PM

that's because you'd probably reject the 5'7 introverted nerdy guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:14 PM

a skinny man in europe is equivalent to a skinny woman tho. from there on his league will depend on the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:38 AM

lean/fit girls see themselves in the same league as sporty/athletic men because they share a similar lifestyle, but plus sized women -- at least american ones -- see curves on a fat woman as analogous with muscles in men, so you have this situation where both will be competing for the same type of conventionally attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:27 AM

ok, we know that a lot of fit men are into thicker women, but I never see the reverse happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:57 AM

Women don’t think about leagues. the amount of times I've heard women say "she can do better" and "what do you see in him" they certainly do believe in leagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:56 AM

yet they always suggest a average looking guy should be realistic about his options and go for women "in his league" and not fit conventionally beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:25 AM
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op’s post IS a humble brag. Its like one of those worn out fuccbois who find Jesus and say casual sex isn’t all that, but only after they themselves fucked dozens of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:57 PM
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welcome to the average male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:52 PM
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Notice any similarities? The person going after this victim is the one to blame. what similarities would a age-gap relationship between consenting adults have with violent rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:45 PM
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everyone can be 25 at one point, only 14% of men get to be 6ft or over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:39 PM
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yes a short latine with thick thighs is definitely seen as attractive, but if the gender was swapped then it wouldn't be Exactly, for women attractive body shape is a spectrum (tall or short, slim or voloptuous, skinny petite or curvy) for men only one shape seems to pass as desired: tall and athletic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:09 PM
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If 19 year old brutally rapes a 40 year old woman, should he get a lenient sentence because he is a "teenager" whose "brain hasn't finished developing yet"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:42 PM
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The only time that people will have problems with anyone only going after beutifull man and/or women, is if those are way out of their league. the average woman does not percieve herself as in the same league as the average man. Take two siblings: the girl is a tall and thin blue eyed blonde her bother is also tall and fit with blue eyes, both are generally perceived as attractive, their respective leagues are probably other fit people. on the other hand a short latina with brown eyes and thick …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:37 PM
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“a lonely dickwad who believes in a perverse social/sexual contract that promises access to women’s bodies” amazing find: Chad feels "entitled" too, the only difference is he gets to "access" women's bodies, the "loser" doesn't, and voicing his frustrations will always come of as "entitlement". Its like saying beggars are toxic people who feel entitled to your money, because you never saw a rich person bother people for change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:51 PM
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so it's basically a "if he's ugly its disgusting" thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:47 PM
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yeah I agree that this still isn’t really spilling into the real world… for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:24 PM

I don't know why women bring moral purity of someones intentions up as it having any relevance, they sleep with guys who only act nice all the time, given they're attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:08 PM
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I saw this far too many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:27 PM

I grew up being the funny asian guy and all those cues reddit lists as “obvious” flirting was her just being friendly in my case(girls would sit on my lap and it meant nothing). What people don’t understand is that women who perceive you as unattractive buy lovable will behave similarly to what other men experience as her showing interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 07:47 PM
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Me. It's not honest and saying, hey, I want to have sex with you is not vulgar. maybe not you but the majority of people with think you're autistic or socially retarded if you have to blurt it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:11 PM
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women: "fucking flirt first" also women: "when you think he's not like the other guys, but starts flirting to let you know he's exactly like the rest"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:03 PM
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3 months of hanging out with his other friends. Concerts, beers, and all of the normal friend group stuff, so not really an acquaintance at that point. women: "all my relationships started as friends first, don't cold approach as we don't like strangers and need to know you first, its best if you are in our social circle" also women: "he knew her for 3 months!?! 3 months already!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:53 PM
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learning to figure out when women are interested in you or even open to being approached he tried to learn that one by literally asking her if she'd be interested to having dinner withn him at his place. How this isn't "clear enough" to anyone not socially inept? What's next? Bluepillers suggesting a guy should politely ask if he can put his penis inside her afterwards, to avoid confusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:48 PM
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Who tells men not to be open and honest? who says inviting a woman to dinner isn't a non-vulgar yet honest way to express interest for something more? I though bluepillers were all about "reading the room". Who thinks agreeing to go to someone's house for dinner is agreeing to have sex with them?! at no point did anyone suggest that a agreeing to dinner implies consent to sex. You are making shit up .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:26 PM
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. Sexual cues could include how close she’s sitting next to you in this big open room. If she’s touching your arm or letting her leg touch your leg. If she’s tousling her hair and making eyes at you. "just because I sit near you doesn't imply consent to touch" "just becuase my thigh was touching your leg doesn't mean I'm attracted" "just because I tousle my hair and make eyes with you is not a invitation to approach"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:04 PM
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"he doesn't understand that a guy suggesting we grab a coffee sometimes literally means he'd like to consume caffeine with me, it has nothing to do with attraction"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:38 PM
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"thats not inviting her "back to his place". He asked her if she wanted to come over for dinner at his place." gotta love this sub's sudden inability to read the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:19 PM
-1

"a guy inviting me back to his place for dinner doesn't sound suggestive at all" -- this sub when they desperately want to own the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:12 PM
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they'd are now doing a complete 180 on this issue, maybe its just a desire to "own the OP" in a debate thread, but in a lot of older threads I remember them calling a guy "socially inept" if he were to ask women for sex/relathionship too directly, and suggested normal people who are socially adept let you know they're interested if they ask "lets grab some coffee" sometimes, while "dinner back at my place" is even more unambiguously suggestive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:05 PM
-1

"agreeing to a dinner invitation, back at the guys place, one on one, is not a sexual cue sweaty"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:58 AM
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Who the fuck makes the move at their first dinner invite? Plenty of socially adept people who understand what "back at my place tonight" implies. Lmao reddit spin-doctors are in full force.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:53 AM

but are they still into that? many of them who liked that type at 18 grew out of it by the time they were 25. Idk if its a phase for Gen Z women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:22 PM

These women are far from being shy. I worked on a lot of bachelorette parties with plenty of single girls in their 30s and one group asked if they could get "hotter men" to do the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:14 PM

why would it be a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:06 PM
2

Women are repulsed if you giggle with a high pitch, talk with your hands (unless we're in Italy), or even cross your legs while sitting. You need to perform a standup of masculinity 24/7 otherwise they get "Icks" over banal shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:51 AM
11

“we choose le bear” is this the feminist “13% of the population commit 50% of the crime” argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:18 AM
2

"don't rush it, the right one will come along some day" "ewww why are there so many old geezers still hitting on women, don't you have a lawn to mow pops?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:44 PM
1

Less attractive women eventually have to choose less attractive men because of monogamy. only after they "had their fun".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:08 AM
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once I realized that some of the women who "loved me as a person" never thought of asian men as "real men" it became apparent they thought of my "kind" as you do of very old people ("wise", but you get grossed out about thinking them doing anything sexual). Kinda hard to look past that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:07 AM
2

in all these years what do you think you were doing that puts them off?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:43 PM
10

far too often building familiarity creates situations like these
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:22 PM
13

I hear a lot of women here say that they hate when men try to "escalate things" in a romantic manner instead of creating a safe, low pressure environment that doesn’t have any romantic obligation hanging over it so they can get to know you and decide if she likes you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:08 PM
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Behind your post, there's an implicit suggestion that the situation is hopeless no matter what you do. a lot of women on ppd will disparage the advice how men should be flirty and escalate things in a romantic direction to avoid any confusion around the "friend zone" by claiming that attraction either was or wasn't present, that its no way to negotiate it, and that no approach or tactic could have any effect on it, which is ironically quite a fatalist "blackpilled" point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:47 PM
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one thing you guys neglect or refuse to realize is that "being groomed, having nice teeth, smelling good" stops working when the standard is 6ft3 country boys, and you're a pale short ethnic guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:09 PM
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if a ugly guy does this he usually gets reminded that he isn’t treating them as “people” but “romantic prospects”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:38 AM
3

what directions have I changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:16 AM
2

not your advice but when said by bluepillers it certainly implies ovoiding those topics because women aren’t “romantic prospects” .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:09 AM
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lol this advice clearly implies a guy shouldn’t really bring up anything sexual because it will make him look just like “the other guys” .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:59 AM
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women are just regular people who have sex and make babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:32 AM
3

So drunk young people at a resort wanting to get laid are going after good looking people? That’s your big revelation? men go for different types of women, those women go for one type of men. that's the revelation if you haven't been paying attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:00 AM
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yeah, I'm east asian in a enviroment where tall, white bearded men are what women dream of marrying since they are little. The whole "improvement this", "improve that" has driven me to adopt grooming habits way more extreme than average guy ( I even got my teeth professionally whitened thinking my slightly yellow enamel is holding me back) just to discover that women in my enviroment usually don't feel attracted to someone with a non-caucasian skullshape.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:31 PM
2

women don’t fetishize shallow stuff like style and fashion, they go deeper than that, mainly bone structure, height and stature. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:02 PM
2

captivated by the sexualized image of it, the "sexualised image" is not a product of some perverted "male gaze" it is what goth subculture intentionally always aimed for. In the 1980s they strapped themselves in studded leather wear to shock and rebel against "polite society", now that the shock value has waned they became fap material for a bunch of normie squares. The irony lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:14 PM
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If you, a man I assume, were planning to have a one night stand on a vacation, wouldn’t you go after/approach the most attractive single looking woman for the average man there is no "picking" the "most attractive woman" to "hookup with".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:55 PM
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Lmao bc guys fetishize the subculture and reduce it to an aesthetic without knowing anything about it, how is that a good thing? "my subculture is not a fetish" says the member of a subculture whose core defining style was giving 19.century victorian fashions a feitshitic edge with skin-tight leather wear, bondage trousers, ripped fishernets, spiked jewlery, studded belts and chokers... the whole lot takes pride in dressing straight out of a BDSM wardrobe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:23 PM
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why do they seem to capable of only having a "fun time" with the extremely conventionally attractive? Makes me think this is what they truly desire, at least sexually, and It is only when they need to secure a serious long term partner when they start to sacrifice some of these wants for stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:11 PM
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men who are over 6ft + muscly= single digit % women who have either hourglass or pear shaped figure= 30%
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:32 PM
11

learn to read I never wrote that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:16 PM
1

u sound mad bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:49 PM
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And of course a woman with the physique of Arnold Schwarzenegger or the facial hair of Gandalf would also be seen as at least as attractive as their male counterparts. This isn't comparable: for example a petite asian woman who has small breasts and is far less curvy than a latina woman is rarely seen as less feminine, quite on the opposite she will be seen as attractive by many, but her asian brother who is shorter and not muscular is often times seen as less masculine and not as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:06 PM
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10s are mating with other 10s 6s are mating with other 6s a lot more women pass as 7+ than men do in the eyes of society. Because their attractiveness is held to a completely different standard -- a perfect example of this was how siblings a brother and sister would bee seen by society and the opposite sex: a tall blonde woman with slim legs, blue eyes and defined features is often times seen as very attractive, even model like, and so is her tall blonde blue eyed brother. now a short brunette w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:52 PM
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brothers, cousins, friendzoned guys, we don't know in what relathionship they are. I once though the girl who was coming to the place every morning with a chubby nerdy guy that he was her bf, when she came to the counter to order something I asked "what about the boyfriend" and she looked uncomfortable and started explaining the guy is not her boyfriend, but her "bestie" since childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:41 PM

exactly, average guys don't have the privilege of making an advance on a woman unless the stars aligned and their hearts were in sync beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:09 PM

lookism is the greatest system of differentiation no one dares to acknowledge. Give it a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:06 PM

your "Indication she wants to talk to you" ... is her "just being polite and not a invitation to talk to her".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:04 PM

Society wants it both ways: a yass queening libertine sexuality freed from the slut-shaming prudishness of yesterday, and a growing fear that there are "gross" guys out there just looking to score.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:02 PM

saying a date is automatically a sexual desire "date", for normal people, always means a meetup with romantic intent, calling it a "date" is what distinguishes it from a platonic hangout with a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:56 PM

no, its the fact that him being conventionally attractive means he more likely has the green light to make advances on a woman than the less attractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:53 PM

At the grocery store - "I'm shopping." At a restaurant - "I'm eating." At the bar - "I'm just here with my friends." At the park - "I'm here to just be alone with my dog." At the gym - "I'm just here to workout." At work - "I'm working and calling HR." At salsa classes - "I'm just here to learn to dance ."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:50 PM
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I won't explain because it devolves into nitpicking and arguing over whether that one particular example is a 'legit' reason to 'ick' or not as it only derails the whole thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:18 AM
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often times they indeed are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:14 AM
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I think “the ick” is often a result of a fearful avoidant or dismissive avoidant attachment style. Why is everything pathologised? If this is true, then majority of women are mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:09 AM
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most of "alpha" posturing among young men is driven by the dating market. But this sub acts as if women are somehow 'outside' the culture hegemonic masculinity instead of a part of it, that its a male problem, on the contrary, women are its kapos.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:05 AM

why are americans obessed with man having to be a gym-bro as a prerequisite to be attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:03 AM

"each woman has a different idea of what a top 20% man looks like"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:04 PM
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I know several autistic women (high functioning tho), men perceive them as 'quirky' or 'not like the other girls', they all have had their share of hookups and boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:51 PM
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The ick is things about someone that just gross you out. It's not about their "masculinity". article here describes how the phenomena is mostly about perceived shortcomings of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:44 PM
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lol no, this is what women consider a “nice guy”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:24 PM
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He feels that because he's "nice", she should give him a chance. Do women think so called "Chads" don't expect sex and they just happen to get it by coincidence? No, they're acting nice to get into your pants too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:12 PM
0

"Nice guy" as in quote unquote.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:05 PM
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"Boring" for women usually means someone who isn't a charismatic extrovert, life of the party. Plenty of bookish guys are kept in the friendzone, but not hot/cool enough to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:59 PM
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women rarely admit to it, cue the "nice guy" meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:55 PM
0

what is a boring man anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:53 PM
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women love matchmaking. We adore making our friends happy and finding someone nice for them I grew up in a white town as a asian guy, at one point I had more women as friends than I had male ones. Never did they try to "match" me with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:13 PM
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of course they are, what kind of Muslim are you the women at parties go for the hot extroverted types, its like expecting you will find atheists at a catholic seminary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:30 PM
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they still turn you into a "bestie" , in fact, the more they realize they could talk about stereotypical "girly" topics with you the greater the chance she gay-zones you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:29 PM
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I have then understood than a friend male for a women is just her to massage her ego and make her feel understood until she find a "real" boyfriend. Even worse is when they find a guy they have sex with, but still vent to a male "bestie" because the boyfriend is emotionally "immature".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:26 PM
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she is right “good conversationalist” for normie women means the cool extrovert at a party.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:36 AM
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similiar to my experience as a asian guy, but instead of being the “gay bestie” I was seen as a harmless asexual goofball.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:58 AM
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one thing women also neglect or refuse to realize is that "being groomed, nice teeth, smelling good" stops working when the standard is 6ft3 country boys, and you're a pale short guy. there really isn't a niche for men like it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:58 AM
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Physical health. Get comfortable in the gym, watch what you eat, generally be clean, fit and athletic. the majority of people are not fit and athletic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:33 AM
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If you can get women comfortable with you, you’ll have an easier in dating generally. POV: He is about to ruin your friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:28 AM

Don’t ask the cute girl out at your grocery store… you can never go back. i don't understand this? Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:56 PM

women in this thread: "all my relationships started as friends first" women in next thread "POV: He's about to ruin your friendship"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:53 PM

mentally ill women attempting to pedobait on this sub are wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:50 PM
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the culture right now certainly dissuades men from finding one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:18 PM
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You've never seen a person before you thought was even less than "meh" but then you got to know them a bit and suddenly you started noticing details that you actually found nice about them? if they had "nice cheekbones, charming smile, pretty eyes" I wouldn't consider them "meh" in the looks department to begin with. I know you try to frame it as "I saw their beauty once I their personality shined through", but we're talking about personality complimenting a guy with already attractive features …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:02 PM
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I can see a guy and think he's ugly but then interact with him and start seeing him move and [...] suddenly I notice the shape of his cheekbones or the colors of his eyes and how he has a charming smile This post makes no sense, its like me saying "she was so meh, but then I noticed her pretty smile, beautiful eyes, cheekbones..." and go on to describe the traits of a physically attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:29 PM
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I see a guy. Usually I don't find him attractive or something I even think he's ugly [...] If he is confident in what he does and/or knows and shows it without being a show off or arrogant about it he starts becoming attractive to me. I find this hard to believe since women rate most men as below average/unattractive/ugly, so a normal guy appears as sub-par to them. Its kinda like listening to the fat dude in your friend group rating women as 2/10 because they have cellulite.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:59 PM
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they are expecting men to maintain a stoic, composed demeanor if they want to attract a woman and then go on about how toxic masculinity forces men to suppress emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:08 PM

that is the female equivalent of a guy saying he likes “no make up on women” — the guy is clearly athletic, muscly and lean.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:06 PM

you could work on being really cool and getting laid like that instead of relying on genetics. just have a larger than life personality bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:58 AM

Height preference isn't so static. First preference is 21cm (little over 8 inches) over her height, average woman 163cm/5'4ft + looking for a man 21cm/8inch taller than her = man who is 184cm/6ft tall. the average woman is looking for someone over 6ft tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:36 AM

I know actually prefer a slight dad bod to a six-pack. post me a example of a dad bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:05 AM

around 8% of women have a hourglass figure, the second most attractive figure is pear shape which 20% women have. We're at nearly 30% of women having what the majority of men consider attractive without even having to "hit the gym", now compare this to womans general preference having a partner who is over 5'11 which is barely 15% of men, now add the preference for broad shoulders and we are at single digit %.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:02 AM
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women would say its worse than cold approach because you’re bothering someone who is “payed to be polite”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:22 PM
2

I maintain a social life, but women never “see me that way” either. Social circles take years to build meanwhile a woman’s attraction can’t really be negotiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:20 PM
2

how would you know if you do not bring it up and ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:38 PM
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what does being “out there mean” roaming grocery stores, swimming pools, bars and asking women out?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:26 PM
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men with game are sexual, and quite frank about wanting to fuck. Not because they're smooth about it, but because they were allowed to be. The "nice guy" profile develops as a alternative strategy to the constant, repetitive negative reactions women have toward men who are too ugly to tolerate what hot guys already do. Imagine it as a unofficial, never-to-be-acknowledged form of a Jim Crow-style codified system where differentiation based on a person sex appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:53 PM
5

She obviously hasn't read Charles Bukowski.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:46 PM
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"Treat us as human beings" = don't view us as aliens." exactly. You should treat women as human beings who like to have sex and make babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:19 PM

americans just pump outright misogynistic trash into the oublic airwaves without anyone’s consent and then complain about “nice guys” for not being up-to-date feminist respectors of women. what a country.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:49 PM
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I can easily turn this bitter prose around and say: that no matter how much your personalities may *click*; how much the two of you have in common, how hard she laughs at your silly jokes and how bluepillers may have insisted it is about personality, not looks... a woman who still couldn't bring herself to kiss you is a woman who values looks over personality when it comes to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:46 PM
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Women's attraction to a man often grows as they get to know him. that man was a yes, at least on a subconscious level, all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:48 PM
1

women say this and then share videos like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:44 PM
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a what would be a asian 6/10 is considered 2-3/10 in a place where tall white men with bushy beards are the norm. And while I get that there are women who are open to date asian men they are - when compared to white men open to date asian women - a much smaller minority. It seems that racial preferences are much more rigid among women than in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:28 AM

ye, because “Chads” who have sex with a lot of women just happen to get it by coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:59 AM
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on what planet are you people living? I the Us a pale slim east asian guy would be considered less attractive by the women there than in Tokyo. I mean are women supposed to be a monolith now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:46 AM

men who are celibate just need to talk to women like “ regular people “ and at the same time there is this “rizz” or “game” way communicating with them autistic incel virgins apparently need to master.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:35 AM

”just be upfront with your intent unlike a nice guy who tries to weasel in her pants” ”akshully don’t be upfront about it as women find it a turn off “
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:27 AM
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a lot of fat women get to be “curvy” and “voluptuous” they literally see curves as analogous with muscles in men and therefore not in the same league as fat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:10 PM
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the average woman is overweight, I’m not takking about fit gym going girls having preferences for athletic me , but chubby chill pizza netflix ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:48 PM

neither do women, short ones going for tall fit men ? why do they need that big of a imbalance?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:41 PM
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“you likely don’t fit the beauty standards of those countries either” but I thought women weren’t a monolith?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:31 PM
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“there are more than two women in your country” so it is a numbers game .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:30 PM

you’re mixing two different brackets here: black women are considered the “least attractive” only in comparison to other women on dating apps — the least attractive female group still git more matches than the most desired male bracket. We are talking completely different tiers of invisibility here, black women getting less matches, asian men getting nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:20 PM
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well Im half japanese and women in Europe think i’m ugly and too feminine, but east asian women (chinese, japanese) don’t consider me feminine at all and think Im conventionally good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:58 PM

I know this mocks “loser” white men, but in reality american born asian males are considered the least attractive, stereotyped and excluded from online dating too. I think in the future the stereotype of the “white passport bro ” will wane the same way the “white incel” trope ended when FBi found out their forums are full of ethnic men who see themselves struggling to fit the western male beauty standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:44 PM
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they’re already writing these
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:10 PM
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tyr being asian, your phenotype alone is a instant deal breaker for the vast majority of women here in the west. No amount of grooming will change it. Its almost like being gay and hitting on a straight guys hoping he changes his mind about dick. And ethnicity is only one exmple how it is immutable traits that are important to women, not fashion or hairdo’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:00 AM
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I know no women over the age of 25 who still like the kpop look, 99% of the time it is teens and tweens. Milenial women had a “emo” phase where they showed a supposed preference for skinny pale artsy guys, but they too grew out of it by the time they went to college. Its the same thing with the korean softboi look, it doesn’t appeal to adult women in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:46 PM
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I wonder what these women would say if a american born guy of japanese descent couldn’t get a american woman because he doesn’t fit the western male beauty standard, but in east asia he would be considered fairly attractive and got a asian wife abroad. Is he a loser ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:28 PM
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“if had to attract her with anything else than raw sex appeal you’re a deluded loser” - the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:18 PM
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“grooming a underage 21 year old” why are american posters here like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:09 PM
4

you went on dates with men you had no intention of giving them “ideas”?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:05 PM
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You’d think after high school people wouldn’t care what goes on in the bedroom between consenting adults, yet pdd chicks seem to be obsessed with it much like the Moral Majority in the 1980s were.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:03 PM
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doesn’t matter, women define loserdom on a mans ability to attract (according to them) the right woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:20 PM

we live in a time where men are simultaneously told only a verbal enthusiastic “Yes” counts as consent, yet mock them for being unable to “read between the lines” if they ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:10 AM

how can you inspire that desire in someone whose dopamine receptors have been fried by a technology that allows them to laser-swipe left anything under 6ft in s 50mile radius?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:14 PM
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what is the point of this post? that your conventionally hotter friend gets approached more than you? Most men don’t get approached at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:15 PM
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this just reads like “some of us will fuck the hottest guys simply because they’re attractive, others will choose who among the hottest guys also has a personality as well”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:12 PM
1

both end up having sex with the same guy: first one knows what she’s getting into, the second one will claim she got “played”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:10 PM
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this is so much more bizarre than male attraction: women will try and project a whole personality onto a guy just to “rationalize” what are feelings of lust with “deeper meaning”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:57 PM
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they don’t go for casual they just happen to end up in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:29 PM
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women are not a hive mind, but every woman in this sub writes her POV as if she were the CEO of women Inc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:25 PM
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i worked as a bartender for years and saw how average women would be pitching out for the tall fit guys in the room and were not approaching the schlubby male counterparts even if they themselves were short and overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:41 PM
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this wont work because what i point out in my post: a fundamental difference in our rating scales, what passes as a hot woman can range from fat and curvy to rail thin petite, for the man to be considered attractive one standard applies: tall and athletic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:36 PM
2

I already do 95% of this list only to get rejected by immutable traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:29 PM
2

what does being “aproachable” look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:26 PM
5

what would you consider IOI’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:24 PM
2

because those get approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:14 PM
7

there are no chubby chaser equivalents found among women, in fact, there are not even any skinny chasers either. Most of them are after one type of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:13 PM
10

The average American man 20-40 is 5ft9 and weighs 197.9 pounds , the average woman is 5ft4 and weights 170.8 pounds. I never see women approach this profile of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:39 PM
6

i see fat “netflix pizza &chill” type of women pitch out for sporty outdorsy men all the time. what do they have in common? wouldnt these women be more compatible with a out of shape skinny fat dude who watched anime?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:30 PM
2

the phenomena discussed here is not women being disinterested in a lot of men, but them being interested in same few men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:35 PM
2

you people act like this is some crazy theory, until the phenomena gets acknowledged in reputable publications and eventually enters the mainstream discourse, they you pretend it was common knowledge all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:43 PM
5

“people just like attractive people” this does not cause the 80/20 effect, if the average man had sex with women he finds attractive it would distribute in a bell curve , not the case with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:40 PM
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in any other thread users usually claim that this is a incel myth, a terminally online pov, and that users who claim this need to touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:54 AM
-2

every system of such radical differentiation (be it class, gender, monetary, racial, religious, ) creates a environment of haves and have nots. Resentment and envy are bound to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:41 AM
6

more men are chubby chasers than there are women who are into short guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:23 PM
20

and rich female socialites.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:21 PM
2

whenever I was at a party a group of women like this (ranging from tall and slim to short and overweight) had no problems finding a guy that was into their particular look, usually all three would agree that there are no "hawt guys" at the party except for one tall guy with athletic build and broad shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:00 PM
20

but it matters for the guys I like Chad gaze strikes again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:28 PM
5

considering the grim stats on dating apps, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:28 PM
11

those are athletic muscular thighs, the thick thighs men are attracted to can be achieved by a sedentary pizza, Netflix&chill lifestyle. Not even comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:48 AM
9

to show just how bullshit the "women face unrealistic beauty standard" claim is you need to look how siblings, brother and sister, would bee seen by society: a tall blonde guy with blue eyes and broad shoulders would be seen as conventionally very attractive, his sister also tall blonde with slim legs and blue eyes could be seen as model like, on the opposite spectrum a short brunette with a babyface, bamby brown eyes and thick thighs would be seen as curvy and attractive by many, her stocky bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:23 AM
12

maybe the "Male gaze" was the "Chad gaze" all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:14 AM
0

Leave it to bluepillers for the most insidious takes. Many men who sleep around fuck women like its nothing, and the the guy who can't get a single (1) women on a date gets told "you failed because you weren't in love with her but at her" in a age where even many women admit they have no qualms with string free sex. This is has ZERO correlation with a guys inability to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:47 AM

the endless treadmill of self improvement… no wonder kids then turn to Andrew Tate , the bluepill-to-redpill pipeline is def a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:42 PM
1

and the "friendzone" means a woman got to know you, saw your face and thought "he's a great guy, but I just can't imagine kissing him".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:40 AM
2

“Chad is flirty and has a sexual identity” you’d call “nice guys” who’d be this upfront “lewd” or “objectifying”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:35 PM
2

what is even worse is the “nice guys feel entitled” gotcha comeback as if “Chads” don’t feel entitled to sex and just get it by “accident”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:34 PM
3

“people who face constant rejection in life be so bitter” wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:20 PM
2

it only became “common” sense in the last few years, a decade ago people pointing this out were still called “bitter nice guys” who ought to “touch grass”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:15 PM
8

lol this is not how the term is being thrown around at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:06 PM
7

shouldn’t had gaslight men about personality then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:20 PM
8

"I have no argument so I will correct your grammar instead"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:16 PM

women were the real coomers all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:45 AM
4

most women agree on who are attractive men, in fact they agree far more than men do on women. Sure, they might be fighting over whether a Jeremy Allen White looks like a bird or not, but the debate already exists within the Chadverse ( they're comparing already conventionally attractive men against roided Giga-Chads like Christ Hemsworth) .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:31 PM
3

wrong again; “Research finds that those being flirted with accurately perceived that the other person was interested only 28 percent of the time (Hall et al., 2014). In other words, roughly three out of four times that people flirt, it goes undetected. Women were especially bad at accurately detecting male flirting (18 percent).” source
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:32 PM
12

I've seen men so deep in the friendzone women sat on their lap.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:26 AM
18

there are no "obvious" cues because one woman's "obvious flirting" is another ones "just being friendly".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:18 AM
35

Read the room, dude. Women will give you cues on if they’re interested or not. "women will give you cues, bro" "don't read into cues, women are obvious if they're into you"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:14 AM
6

are you in high school or do adult still do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:16 PM
14

one friend likes men who are built like linebackers, my other friend prefers swimmers build, I am a fan of a cornerback body. the memes just write themselves at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:00 PM
11

I see women describing their friends, siblings, cousins as 10s whether they are skinny and tall or short and voluptuous/chubby. Naturally anything other than a tall muscly guy appears as beneath their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:57 PM
-1

I wouldn't call someone who only listens to Taylor Swift picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:43 PM
29

you quickly find out that they are often completely baffled by the partners their friends choose be woman rate 80% of men as below average see your friend dating a normal bloke conclude your hot friends are dating ugly men gee, I wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:33 PM
2

yes you should treat them for what they really are : regular human beings who have sex and make babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:06 PM
44

the men who “know how to talk to women” (meaning women are attracted to them) never treat them in a neutral “just a regular human being” way, its always a heavily gendered and flirty lingo. Women here either don’t realize how are they being spoken to as women or just lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:03 PM
-5

I named the fundamentlals, you moved a goalpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:14 PM
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its the foundational pit of everything else he says.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:24 AM

depends on the preference. A fit guy who is a chubby chaser would perceive a fat woman dating a fat guy as "voluptuous queen with a out of shape slob" while 'objectively' they're both just fat. its very subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:22 AM

I never see it, and whenever people show me an example of this its always a guy who is her looksmatch. I saw articles titled "reasons why beautiful women date ugly men" using a pic of a blonde woman with a asian guy as an example lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:21 AM

you are still framing it as every woman has this unique bundle of requirements where the right man would just be harder to find, but this is not the case her - it is rather that women themselves have such a narrow and similar ideal they all end up wanting the most generic, conventionally attractive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:14 PM
1

if someone not getting skibidi toilet memes is a deal breaker I wonder if these people have ever met any international/interfaith/cross-cultural couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:19 PM
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