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47	What is up with the term “tingles”?		badgersonice	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/23 08:02 PM
4	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways?	Discussion	badgersonice	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 04:11 PM

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2	What would you have preferred instead of MeToo? Eh thought I linked it. Here it is Here’s another helpful link, since you are so misinformed about testimony: It is genuinely baffling how your peanut-sized brain struggles to comprehend this so much And there it is, the personal insults that prove you’re just being too emotional and cannot handle facts. Go read more about the law. Talk less. Read more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/26 05:41 PM
2	What would you have preferred instead of MeToo? You're trying to argue a worthless technicality. It’s not a technicality. It’s the law. It’s the way the law works. Testimony is considered very important evidence and is standard in the court of law. It is deeply against the laws of this country for you to claim that victims should be convicted for their honest testimony simply because they don’t have additional corroborating evidence. I’m not reading any more from your wrong blather. It’s pointless to argue with someone who cannot be bothered …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/26 05:36 PM
2	What would you have preferred instead of MeToo? Yes they are. Here is a thread with citations of exactly that: convictions based solely on a single witness’ testimony. Rape itself is fundamentally almost always dependent on a single witness’s testimony, because the action of saying “no” is sufficient to prove rape, and there is rarely physical evidence that consent was denied. Yet there are many rapists in prison. I agree that rape is convicted far less often than it should be. But it is blatantly false of you to claim that testimony isn’t ev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/26 02:52 PM
2	What would you have preferred instead of MeToo? Testimony is literally evidence. It’s a form of evidence called “testimonial evidence”. Educate yourself. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/testimony because they can very easily be lies. The accused can also very easily be lying. It is for the jury to decide, not you. The testimonial evidence of a victim can also very easily be true— you simply do not want to allow victims to speak or even make accusations. And outside the court of law, regular people can decide for themselves what to listen to a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/26 02:28 PM
2	What would you have preferred instead of MeToo? Testimony is evidence in the us legal system. But you make it clear you do not want it to be. You want to change the law so that rape will never functionally be a crime.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/26 02:05 PM
2	What would you have preferred instead of MeToo? and "believe the victim without evidence" First: again, testimony is evidence. A victim’s testimony statement is evidence. Ask any court lawyer in the United States . It is 100% instructed to the jury to take testimony as a form of evidence. So no, it is not possible for a victim to claim they were attacked “without evidence”, because their testimony itself is evidence. You apparently default to assuming every victim’s words are always false evidence, but that does not mean their words are not e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/26 02:01 PM
2	What would you have preferred instead of MeToo? Of course it is, why wouldn't it be? Because it’s supposed to be innocent until proven guilty… yet you assume victims are guilty of a crime when they say they are victims. We are talking about true allegations, of which there are many. Your choice for society is to unilaterally strip victims of their rights in service of all the criminals. You do not give a shit about victims.there is already a solution to false allegations, the same way there is for every crime: investigation and conviction. Vi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/26 11:38 AM
3	What would you have preferred instead of MeToo? You cannot be this unintelligent. I said we are talking about rights of real actual victims who really actually genuinely got fucking raped, and your response was to talk about protecting men from false accusations. So yeah, it looks like the right conclusion at this point. Except is impossible to know if someone is a real honest victim without evidence. The victim knows and has all the evidence necessary. You assume they are lying, but the victim can know 100%, and they in fact know a lot bette…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/26 12:29 AM
5	What would you have preferred instead of MeToo? No, I'm protecting innocent men from false accusations. So you think all accusations are false, then? The discussion was about what you want real honest victims to do. And your argument is that they are always lying and should shut the fuck yo. If a woman is raped, her job is to take it in silence and spare the poor innocent man. A woman is always a false accuser, no matter what, in your argument . We're not mind readers. Nobody can know what they say is true unless they present evidence. And so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/26 08:39 PM
4	What would you have preferred instead of MeToo? And you can't say someone else commited a crime that they didn't. And you’re deflecting again from the entire premise in order to protect violent dangerous men from the obvious natural consequences of their own evil vile actions. If a victim knows 100% exactly who committed the crime, and where and when it happened… why are you so incredibly insistent on saying they should censor themselves forever and protect the violent evil person who attacked them? Yes, false accusations are a huge deal in t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/26 08:14 PM
2	BOTH men and women are VISUAL creatures however men don't need to like her personality when it comes to sex Is this "no"? It's a simple yes or no question. And I’ve answered it very honestly several times. Read again. It is completely unreasonable for you to demand that I spoon feed you the answers I’ve already given very honestly while you have consistently refused to answer any of my questions. I’m calling bad faith at this point. Debate settled. facts are not relevant to you. You’re just here to push your sexual agenda with zero regard to safety. All I am saying that women have better resistance ch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/26 12:41 AM
1	BOTH men and women are VISUAL creatures however men don't need to like her personality when it comes to sex Quote where I said this. You keep asking questions and making statements that indicate that you believe that short men are just barely a little insignificant whisper stronger than women. I do sports with women, some of them are better than me. But not stronger than you. Not even close, unless you are extremely infirm. You do not play any sports with any women where you would be unable to punch her twice as hard as she can punch you. Stop deflecting and moving the goalposts. You mentioned a fight…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/26 09:22 PM
1	BOTH men and women are VISUAL creatures however men don't need to like her personality when it comes to sex Still didn’t answer my question: why do you think there are separate leagues for male and female sports? Do you think the biological differences for men and women are made up? And why can you not actually look at any facts yourself? Too painful or something to acknowledge that you are naturally, unfairly, and unchangeably stronger than anyone you will ever date? Definr substantially stronger. Why can’t you look any of this up yourself? As I said multiple times: the gap is significant enough that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/26 08:10 PM
2	BOTH men and women are VISUAL creatures however men don't need to like her personality when it comes to sex Yeah, just ignore everything I say when it’s not going your way, sure. No clarification of whatever it is you think I was doing when you said “you women always”. As for “the gays”, I already stated that earlier when I said your proposal implied women should either be lesbian or shoot up testosterone to date someone who isn’t a threat. You just got huffy about it. Yes, two men are far far more closely matched if they are in a fight to the death than a man vs a woman. Remember, that was your scena…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/26 06:47 PM
4	BOTH men and women are VISUAL creatures however men don't need to like her personality when it comes to sex Didn’t answer my questions, huh. What a surprise. How many women do you realistically meet in real life are actually capable of physically resisting you if you decided to hurt the? The disturbing reality you are truly unwilling to face is that you have met almost no women capable of that. Ok, so you have to fight a guy 5'6 60kg or 6'6 120kg. Who would you choose? I pick the one who doesn’t want to murder me, because both are likely to kill me and I don’t want to die. You are thinking about this …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/26 04:24 PM
3	BOTH men and women are VISUAL creatures however men don't need to like her personality when it comes to sex I especially don’t get why there’s dudes here downvoting. Usually they love to tell women that we’re weak and helpless and inferior, and that we desperately need men to protect us because we’re so frail and useless. But then a woman points out that yes, actually, it is factually true that almost all men are physically stronger than almost all men… and that fact deserves downvotes and “you women” false accusations. Can’t win. 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/26 02:28 PM
4	BOTH men and women are VISUAL creatures however men don't need to like her personality when it comes to sex There are weight classes in martial sports for a reason. Difference in one class is not as extreme as in 4. And there is also a sex division in sports because there are no women who can compete in any male weight class divisions. The strongest women are not out lifting or outfighting the weakest weight class for men. Look at actual sports records. For example, in weight lifting, the men’s weakest division max weight is barely less than the women’s absolute heaviest lift ever. If all men are lots…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/26 02:23 PM
2	BOTH men and women are VISUAL creatures however men don't need to like her personality when it comes to sex Not what I said. So didsingenuous. What is said was that literally any healthy adult man is physically capable of killing me with their bare hands. Tall or short. Even men who are significantly below average strength are naturally quite a bit stronger than almost all women. So what’s the fucking difference to a woman? Both can kill her easily. Same thing. And before you blast me with more of your heightism shit, I will again remind you that the only man I’ve ever fucked is shorter than me. So do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/26 12:43 PM
1	BOTH men and women are VISUAL creatures however men don't need to like her personality when it comes to sex What men are those? Cancer patients? 90 year old men? 12 year old boys? Almost all men are physically stronger than almost all women. Even in the same weight class, it’s not even close. Yes, even if he’s shorter. Don’t fool yourself imagining that short men can’t be dangerous to a woman. And even there… most men are a lot taller than most women. It’s not close. Like seriously, most 14 year old boys are physically stronger than most women. Literal boys can easily beat global top tier female athle…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/26 12:18 PM
2	It's completely reasonable for men to view a ONS as more of an achievement than a relationship. And yes for something to be an achievement it has to be difficult. So if someone makes it easy for you, you don’t like them. Got it. I've never claimed this, you're just projecting here. Not projection at all: I don’t obsess over casual sex. I think it’s nasty. It’s just the natural conclusion to draw about people who glorify casual sex while shitting on relationships as inferior. 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/26 11:29 AM
2	Women should not have friends (man, woman, child, or animal). it’s super-de-duper nice and kind and feminine :) 🙄 Yes, I get that you despise everything feminine and hate women. But I didn’t say any of that to flex femininity. And I did not intend anything as “nice”. I said it because your words are extremely gross and horrible, and I am not skilled enough to deal with someone so disturbed that they think their own sex deserves to be exterminated. I said it because your obsession with feeding your hatred is genuinely unhealthy and evil. All the crazy stuff…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/26 11:25 AM
1	It's completely reasonable for men to view a ONS as more of an achievement than a relationship. Because it very, very much is easier for women to have a ONS, compared to men. So? Does something only matter if it’s a challenge? And it’s bad if it isn’t a challenge? And since your claim is that men value one night stands incredibly highly over long term relationships… it’s pretty clear you are arguing that women are far more desired for one night stands, and that a woman who has a long term relationship is far less desired. That “wife material” girl is absolutely never the girl of these men’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/26 01:49 AM
0	It's completely reasonable for men to view a ONS as more of an achievement than a relationship. Why do you specify men only, in your post? If it is so grand to be desired only for a ONS as a man, why does that not apply equally to women? If you think a a long term relationship is so degrading for men, why do you not think it is equally degrading for a woman?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 08:04 PM
1	If you, as a woman, pay for half the date, you are agreeing that a man is entitled to your body. What is untrue about what I said? Not what you wrongly believe I said. What I actually said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 05:08 PM
3	If you, as a woman, pay for half the date, you are agreeing that a man is entitled to your body. And still no debate from you, The why doesn’t matter either way. You are policing something that has no effect on the real world ever. So again, you said I’m being “harmful”. Explain how I’m being so harmful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 04:37 PM
2	If you, as a woman, pay for half the date, you are agreeing that a man is entitled to your body. And not a single response to my actual questions, just more restating nothing. Not paying for your own food to change men’s minds is also a fool’s errand. Yet here you are scolding women for paying for their own food and saying they are being “harmful”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 04:28 PM
3	If you, as a woman, pay for half the date, you are agreeing that a man is entitled to your body. Not much of a debate if all you do is say “nuh uh, yer wrong”. How is it “harmful”? You saying so doesn’t make it true. It’s just your feelings, and your feelings are wrong. Why do you think it’s harmful for me yo be a responsible self-sufficient adult? Do you think I deserve to be hurt for paying for my own food? Get off of your high horse— you’re feeding into the idea that men should hurt women for not complying with tradcon bullshit. Why do you think I’m “paying for a man not to hurt me”? I’m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 03:14 PM
3	If you, as a woman, pay for half the date, you are agreeing that a man is entitled to your body. I read it. It does not matter why a woman chooses to pay for herself— she is not actually making men think this way. You say “ Stop agreeing with men that there is anything they can do to be entitled to our time or bodies” as if it makes any fucking difference what women do. It doesn’t. Rotten men will think rotten thoughts regardless of whether any women “agree” with them. You scolding women for their shitty thoughts is misdirected bullshit. Women paying or not paying has zero affect on men’s f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 02:43 PM
3	If you, as a woman, pay for half the date, you are agreeing that a man is entitled to your body. If you, as a woman, pay for half the date, you are agreeing that a man is entitled to your body How the fuck is paying for my own food that I ate with my mouth somehow making him entitled to fucking Mr against my will? How is it your thought process that picking up my share of the bill means a dude is right to believe I “owe” him the use of my body??? If I go out alone to a restaurant some time and pay for my own dinner, which man do you think is entitled to use me then? I pay for my own food be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 02:35 PM
2	Do women really see men in shorts as less attractive? I’m so glad they’ve at least gotten shorter from the almost mid-calf monstrosities of around 2000. Just ugh. Horrible proportions when they hit well below the knee for most men. Even like super fit men looked like they had lil cankels or something. I wanna see some knees and thighs! Doesn’t even have to be lewd short, just ugh, stop being so Victorian prudish and show off that you don’t skip leg day, dammit. … and dudes who have a long torso especially: do not go with long shorts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/26 01:46 AM
2	A lot of guys think they should be adored simply because they are not abusers, then wonder why women (and men) dont like them. The point is being missed here. No it isn’t. You want to treat all women as identically evil while demanding that all women treat men as individuals and sort them perfectly for moral quality. It is a wild double standard. Whether a woman’s morals matter to men is a separate issue. No. He doesn’t give a shit about a woman’s morals, but is pissed off that the women he is most attracted to also don’t care about men’s morals. He is most extremely attracted to the women he views as “bad”— they are th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/26 02:16 PM
5	It is biologically optimal for men to die before their partner reaches menopause You think it’s biologically optimal for old women to be totally alone for their kids and grandkids, and for there to be a massive underclass of angry sexless horny young men with nothing to do… Societies where fat old rich men horde teenaged girls and young women tend to have a lot of war, and tend to round those women up by force. And a lot of miserable raped young girls forced into unwanted “marriage” (in quotes because do not see force marriage as valid at all). Anyways, my question for you i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/26 12:19 PM
1	Most of the women who have difficulties dating are just low value as sexual partners. I do not care if a man who demands sex before I am comfortable thinks I’m sexually repulsive. He can try dating someone else, and good riddance. He is not compatible with me at all. Why would I want to fuck a man who does not like me at all? Prude shaming is no more valid or convincing than slut shaming.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/26 11:29 AM
0	A lot of guys think they should be adored simply because they are not abusers, then wonder why women (and men) dont like them. men who lack morals receive praise or female attention From which women? Why is it that the morals of the men matter so much... but the morals of the woman he wants doesn't matter at all? Why do they focus all their attention on the worst women while totally ignoring women with better morals? Why is it, when they see a woman with terrible morals, they still give her praise and attention and desperately wish she was dating him instead of the men who lack morals they're already dating? And why are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/26 12:36 AM
6	Women handle rejection worse then men No. It’s how debate works.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/26 08:31 PM
7	Women handle rejection worse then men So it’s a Kafaktrap— if any woman disagrees with the accusations made by OP, you use that as proof of the accusation. “That’s exactly what a murderer would say”	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/26 08:24 PM
3	Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner. I do think there’s a difference between “my mom/grandmother told me about how hard this thing she experienced personally was, and I agree that it sucked” vs “I read about the white feather movement in an online forum and hate modern women for it”. And yes, it was good that the banks changed, and that there’s no white feather movement now, etc etc. I do actually wish people spent a little more time acknowledging how much better things are today. Like, not to excuse any abuses of today, but just t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/26 07:08 PM
7	Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner. that said many people remind us Ok. So a “they did it so I wanna do it too” defense. If you don’t like the tactic, don’t defend it with “yeah, but they do it too”. not have a bank account The Equal Credit Opportunity Act was 1974… not 1914. It’s in living memory, and something that affected women who are alive today. Many members of our current Congress were adults in 1974. The President was an adult then. Yeah, it’s not fair to blame young men, but it is a real experience some living people tod…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/26 03:52 PM
6	Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner. Is that the most relevant example you can think of? The white feather movement was in England over 100 years ago during World War One. The movement also cause a big rift among suffragettes. Women more recently have been pretty active in anti-war movements. And some were even fairly prominent. Like… are you really sure you want to look back to the 1910s to describe modern sexism from women? Do you equally volunteer male behavior from 1915 to describe modern men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/26 03:19 PM
3	Most men give their attention so freely to women that it doesn't mean anything to them anymore. You claim I’m a hoe using hoe math, and have somehow decided I’m the jerk… because I don’t blush and thank you for the insult. K.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/26 02:03 AM
3	Most men give their attention so freely to women that it doesn't mean anything to them anymore. Yes, an internet user who is calling all women “hoes” who overvalue themselves. You do know what the word “hoe” means, right? In other words, proof that you were 100% lying when you claimed you’d “never” seen a man diss a woman for not being hot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 04:17 PM
3	Most men give their attention so freely to women that it doesn't mean anything to them anymore. Sure, I suppose this is the standard hoe_math talking point that women view men who are 7 and below as "not people" and romantic advances from them don't count. Wow. You're seriously calling me a "hoe" now. The fuck. Leave me alone. Seriously. What incredible hypocrisy-- you claim men don't insult women for being unwanted, and then you immediately afterwards call me a "hoe" for not being hot enough. And you make up nasty lies to claim I'm shallow simply because i wasn't desired. You ARE one of t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 12:43 PM
3	Most men give their attention so freely to women that it doesn't mean anything to them anymore. Never seen it. You’ve really never even seen a man say that finding a date is trivially easy for any woman? And that any woman who isn’t swamped with male attention must be an “obese land whale” or a deformed ugly bitch or lying? I honestly do not believe you, because that literally happened right here in this very thread that you’re responding to. I said I was ignored by men for a decade, and the dude called me a liar for it, because he thinks it’s impossible for any woman who is more attractiv…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 11:21 AM
6	Most men give their attention so freely to women that it doesn't mean anything to them anymore. Maybe. But likewise, women get an endless stream of men telling them that if they don’t have dozens of men chasing them, they’re worthless ugly swamp creatures. Or that they’re lying. It’s pretty clear at least some bitter terminally online men want to go way out of their way to be as fucking mean as possible to any woman who isn’t hot. Is being called worthless for not having tons of sexual attention better for women somehow? I don’t see any logical reason why it would be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 05:13 PM
7	Most men give their attention so freely to women that it doesn't mean anything to them anymore. assuming you’re even telling the truth Bad faith, but the norm for the cynical woman-hating crowd around here. You wouldn’t have dated me, either dude. I was surrounded by men and they always pursued other women. Not me. But this is just more of you hoping that women like me will be ground into the dirt— when I say it wasn’t horrible, you jump up to declare that it’s not good enough. You want me, and any other woman, to be crushed and humiliated… and anything shy of that is “well, a little sad i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 08:00 AM
12	Most men give their attention so freely to women that it doesn't mean anything to them anymore. Dude, I went years without any male interest. It’s really not the horrifying torture you want it to be. Yeah, I felt unwanted and yeah,it was a little sad sometimes. But likewise, it was good not to deal with the scary attention, the manipulation, and the fake lying bullshit that some women get. I know it means you desperately hope I’ve been “HUMBLED” and you want me to hate myself and feel like I’m ugly and don’t deserve love. But I don’t. 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 07:32 AM
3	Women should not have friends (man, woman, child, or animal). Sorry for worrying you. You’re “sorry” for worrying me, but you also think that, since I am a woman, I’m an inherently evil don’t deserve friends, and am an animal abuser. ??? But yeah, I am genuinely worried about your mental health. I’m not trying to insult you. I mean that your words are actually genuinely lacking in connection with reality or compassion. So I parrot things I read online that seem to make sense. No, you still aren’t even willing to say honestly what you actually mean. I mean …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 12:08 PM
2	Women should not have friends (man, woman, child, or animal). Don’t pretend like you give a shit about the health or well-being of women. You prefer them to suffer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 11:48 AM
2	Women should not have friends (man, woman, child, or animal). I am aware of the incel-forum dogpill insanity. What I wanted is for him to reveal his own profound and alien porn-brained degeneracy in text to the thread, rather than hiding behind his 4chan dog whistles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 02:28 AM
2	do you truly believe the bar is lower for men? tradcons I grew up in a tradcon area and went to church as a child. I am more than aware of what traditional conservatives think of traditional women: they see traditional women as pretty and nude and soft… and also as inferior servants who owe their husband submission. They view women as fundamentally lesser, incompetent creatures that need male guidance and control. Go to X and you will see the thirst posting and worshipping at the altar of tradwives and wifejak. I already said I agree these m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/26 08:23 AM
3	do you truly believe the bar is lower for men? "You" was referring to Woman I know The word "you" does not mean "these women I know". If you wanted to talk about women you know, you could have said "these women I know" instead of "you". BUT your own preferences described here are not a universal preference among women Neither are the preferences of the women you know. and are actually probably uncommon among them. MOST women today work full time jobs even if they are moms. So your expectation is: women work full time and also do all the chil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/26 02:11 AM
3	do you truly believe the bar is lower for men? You can't also want or even demand the supplementary income provided by his labor Did I stutter? I said it is valuable for a man to spend time with his kids and I fucking meant it. work full time in large part so that their father will be able to spend time with their kids. You do not get to make up lies about my values just to call me a hypocrite. I consider him doing some shit to some rental house way the fuck less valuable than actually being there for his kids. I do not want to be with a man…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/26 12:24 AM
7	Women should not have friends (man, woman, child, or animal). No, women should have friends. The end. It’s way better for everyone- kids, society, men, women. What’s even worse are the women who dote upon large male dogs, for obvious reasons. Huh? What obvious reasons are you talking about? Explain it in words please, not some dog-whistle weirdo hints. Be specific about what you are saying, so everyone understands clearly what you mean.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/26 03:36 PM
9	Women should not have friends (man, woman, child, or animal). Is this PPD’s first actual Talibani official auto-translate post?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/26 03:34 PM
4	do you truly believe the bar is lower for men? Not having direct father-child care time is a massive, massive loss for the kids. You’re really underestimating the value of having a present, involved father when you compare it to renovating a rental property to be a richer landlord. urban numales “Numales” sounds like some kind of Rush Limbaugh mocking emasculating term for men who actually give a shit about knowing their kids names.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/26 12:06 PM
2	What explains the difference in how some men respond to authority, admiration, and emotion when it comes from women versus other men. No, I said the appearance of aptitude. And the military, politics, religion— all things that men created— demonstrate otherwise. Men will generally assume aptitude based maleness plus a title and will submit to those authorities even without any appearance of aptitude. I just think men view women with suspicion and defensiveness. And it reflects in how they respond to them. It’s not suspicion or defensiveness— men are not afraid of women. Historically, men were very clear that they simply viewed…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/26 11:14 AM
2	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron No two patriarchies look exactly alike either. So which patriarchy do you think women would specifically recreate as a matriarchy? They never had a system where they could exploit men. So yes, you confirm exactly that you have no factual basis for your assumptions. You don’t know, so you assume women would organize the FemTaliban, even though most men did not actually form the Taliban.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/26 11:02 AM
1	What explains the difference in how some men respond to authority, admiration, and emotion when it comes from women versus other men. Your argument is that men are logical and respond to competence, while painting women as dumb creatures too emotional and illogical to understand that a fat personal trainer might not be viewed as the most competent. You seem to not recognize irony very well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/26 09:15 PM
1	What explains the difference in how some men respond to authority, admiration, and emotion when it comes from women versus other men. Men respond to the perception of aptitude. They have to be impressed. Titles don't mean anything on their own, it's what the title implies. Politics, the military, and every corporate everything shows otherwise: men will submit to a mere title eagerly. In addition, one of the big failures of modern trad men is that they expect deference and submission from women based on merely having the title “male”, rather than based on competence. They expect a woman to marry some trad asshole then defer to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/26 05:29 PM
2	There are similar patterns in men anticipating sex, and women anticipating commitment No. Why do you keep guessing and asking me leading questions about things I pretty clearly didn’t say or imply? You commented about “young love” and I said ok, but he described what he’s looking for, and It isn’t “young love”. I stated a fact about how he described his relationship. I did not say he is wrong to want what he wants— you are making up a moral judgement and putting that on me. I did not say anything whatsoever that could possibly imply it is “wrong” for him not to chase after a whit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 07:35 PM
2	There are similar patterns in men anticipating sex, and women anticipating commitment Young love is definitely a far less hard deadline than the biological clock. But likewise, OP isn’t particularly looking for love or young love. He states that he is looking for anything that is just more enjoyable than being single in the moment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 06:44 PM
3	There are similar patterns in men anticipating sex, and women anticipating commitment It doesn’t. Did you notice I said this? she lost a very important fraction of very limited time learning from hers. Meaning “her mistakes”. Not his. If she wanted marriage, then it’s her responsibility to ask. She didn’t do too bad, though — she bailed after just 1 year when she found out he wasn’t interested. That’s taking responsibility. Why do you think I’m putting the onus of communicating entirely on him, exactly? I’m doing the opposite. I’m just explaining why the two scenarios are differe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 04:20 PM
4	There are similar patterns in men anticipating sex, and women anticipating commitment One reason these two things are really different is that you can find casual sex for the rest of your life, but a woman looking for marriage and kids is on a much more restricted clock. When you missed out of fucking the girls you wanted in high school, you sill have the whole rest of your life to find pussy. When your backup Becky dated you for a year, she lost 5-10% of her remaining available years to have a family. So yeah, the difference is you losing out on your high school bang was not a p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:30 PM
–	what preferences are women allowed to have? Tbh, it’s even more specific: preferences that explicitly include the dude complaining, and also explicitly exclude all or nearly all other men. In other words, the only way to avoid criticism from these men is to be an absolute total teenage virgin, but also immediately rip off your skirt and begin fellating him the moment you see him specifically. Anything other than that exact behavior, and these red pill perpetually onliners will be mad at you and claim you’re “destroying civilization”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 04:33 PM
18	Women are not masculine enough. His post also shows he’s never actually interacted with women without his petty biases clouding his vision. Like, notice he slipped in the little “women are illogical under pressure” nugget… like dude has never even been to a hospital and seen nurses and doctors at work. I suspect he thinks it’s “illogical” every time he sees a hot woman dating someone who isn’t him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/26 11:19 AM
1	AI is now banned and also join our discord come argue with incels, misogynists and misandrists I am sad the em-dash is considered a genAI tell. It’s such a practical punctuation for internet comments! :( Thanks ChatGPT for ruining a cool thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/26 02:39 AM
2	Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc. If you don't want to adress the hypothetical scenario No, you keep putting up new rules to prevent anyone actually addressing the hypothetical scenario you outlined. First, it was just “we would change the laws to reduce protections from women in the workplace”. When I pointed out that those protections will actually make women want to avoid dating and will cause corporations to favor single women and fire pregnant or married women, you started adding on increasingly outlandish conditions to avo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 09:35 PM
2	we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently. No Personal Advice Posting Yes, Posting. That rule is to remove posts that demanding people fix their dating life. Advice posts like “I do all these things, what am I doing wrong?”. There is no rule against offering helpful advice. Also, it's not real an "advice" and in the context can be interpreted as rudeness, too You can feel that way if you want to. But it’s still good advice to someone who is so focused on themselves and what they can extract from others, and who despises supporting the co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 08:24 PM
2	Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc. Useless if your clients refuse to buy from you because you hire single women. Boycotts don’t work in general— most clients woth the most money would rather buy the best product for the best price, rather than grandstand on false morals they don’t care about. Because those boycots are from a tiny minority that does not follow through. Not the case in this scenario. Yes, in your very unrealistic hypothetical scenario that makes no logical sense where women don’t have any money to spend and men wil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 08:20 PM
2	we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently. You absolutely meant it to be condescending and mean. It is indeed rude when it was intended to be rude. You also know it was rude because I told you to stop, and you doubled down out of spite to put me down. You know you don’t respect anyone you have ever called “hon”, lol. You used that language to be disrespectful— and I know that because when I told you to stop, you decided to call me “honey” and “sweetie” and “hon” over and over in rapid succession. Obviously disrespect. You are not someone…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 07:57 PM
2	we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently. Go ahead, I don’t care. But make sure you report yourself again for all that “sweety” and “hon” crap you were shoveling before that too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 07:50 PM
–	Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc. Corporations and rich people have no incentive to fire half of their functional useful employees based solely on their sex organs. It does not benefit them. And as for male workers boycotting all companies who employ women… boycotts are simply not effective. And from the perspective of capital, there is no value in halving the workforce— a suddenly extremely restricted labor supply will mean they will have to pay substantially more money for each position… and they will have half as many potenti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 07:16 PM
–	Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc. Why would they be pissed off by that? They want a cheap and functional product or service. The origin of the labor is barely ever considered. Like I’m genuinely struggling to understand how you think this would work. You think men will just… unify into a cohesive political unit and stop spending any money unless all women completely vanish from the workplace?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 04:41 PM
–	Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc. Companies will hire single women for being productive cogs in the machine. They do not care one bit about the feelings of male employees. They will always fire any employees who cannot be productive— that includes men who throw tantrums and refuse to function if there’s a female within 30 feet of them, lol. Even in the age of discrimination against women, factories were happy to hire single women. It was always partnered women they wanted to ditch for having babies and becoming less available fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 04:20 PM
–	we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently. You assume my worldview is incoherent because you’re too busy coming up with bratty insulting nicknames to actually read. I pay taxes for things that don’t benefit be directly because I benefit from the overall functioning of society. Selfishly declaring that it’s just too unfair for you to pay taxes unless all the money goes to you personally is an unbelievably childish mentality. Grow up, kiddo. You started giving me unwarranted recommendations (you shouldn't have kids, blablabla) Because your…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 04:18 PM
–	Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc. Remove from law any intervention that forces employers to accept someone they don't want to hire (single women). This doesn’t work the way you think. It’s actually married women, and especially mothers, that employers do not want. Removing the laws you dislike will actually strongly pressure women to avoid pairing with men with this kind of incentive structure, because if they date with any seriousness, they will be punished extremely strongly. You will force women to only strictly choose betwee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 01:57 PM
–	we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently. You can't owe "human decency". Owing means I have to do it, otherwise the government will punish me… There is no mechanism for enforcing "human decency" because there is no clear definition of what it looks like. You can morally owe people decency, and everyone else in society will hate you and punish you for failing to meet that basic obligation. People who are horrible are not welcomed as friends or as romantic partners by the overwhelming majority of decent people. The mechanism of enforcemen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 12:36 PM
1	Women are to blame for doing more house work and not men I've had lug studs break off before because of overtightening 🫠 well that sucks!	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 09:21 PM
4	Women are to blame for doing more house work and not men Tire rotation? Also a pain in the ass considering the business I bought the tires from has an automatic lift and will do it for free. Not to mention how tight they auto crank the lugs on the tires. If a shop screwed them on with a pneumatic gun, it’s often too hard to do by hand yourself with standard tools. And before anyone comes @ me with “haha women are so pathetic and weak that’s why you need men you fucking worthless females”: my dad complained about this when he had a flat. He was pretty …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 02:27 PM
0	we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently. Don’t shove words in my mouth I don’t support that either I generally assume most people support some level of government, which inherently requires some kind of taxes or contributions from the people in society. The overwhelming majority of people are not self-sequestered hermits… and obviously those people using the internet (a technology developed using American tax dollars, remember) are not morally opposed to consuming other people’s tax dollars. But your claim is that you oppose the existe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 02:18 PM
0	we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently. I agree you should have to pay per kid if we’re valuing individual freedom and bodily autonomy. Do you support zero taxes and zero government? Or only paying taxes for things that support violence like the military and police, like most libertarians? This is irrelevant, my parents paid into a system So did many many other people who were not your parents. Many of them did not have children themselves and still paid their taxes. It’s 100% relevant that you climbed the ladder but want to pull the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 01:20 PM
18	Women are to blame for doing more house work and not men Like somehow men can understand the concept of regular maintenance on cleaning and detailing his vehicle, but not his house? A man like that cares about his vehicle because it brings him status. He doesn’t care about his house, because that’s all just lowly woman shit, and it’s her job to clean up after him. His time and hobbies are important; her time is his to waste. There are way too many men who have zero respect for a woman doing housework for him. To them, doing housework is a sign of fail…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 12:42 PM
1	we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently. If you actually believe in "nobody owes anyone anything" So please tell me where you think I said this? There are a number of things people owe to each other: basic human decency, not committing crimes against them, taxes, paying back in to the society they extract from. And what specific thing do you think I owe you for you paying your taxes? when men complain about systematic issues that prevent them from entering into relationships Oh right. You think you paying taxes means that women should …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 12:37 PM
2	we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently. if you're a single man paying taxes for single mothers Why so much hate for single moms, but not for their lazy slut baby daddies? and public schooling is just cuckoldry with extra steps Total anti-civilization brain rot position, seriously. And why is it only “cuckoldry” for single men to have to pay for other men’s kids, but not childless women or women with children or married men with children ? Why aren’t they all “cuckolds” for supporting other men’s children? Is a woman with 2 kids a cuck…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 06:49 AM
3	we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently. Whose children? Human children. I don't support paying taxes for other people's children because remember that "nobody owes anything to anyone", right? Gotcha. You don’t care about civilization or the society you live in. You want to live in some dumb John Gault “every man for himself” greed-is-the-only-virtue, selfish take take take hellscape Hard pass for me. Other people's children don't owe me anything It is a fact that they consume your taxes whether you want them to or not. So what benefit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 12:51 AM
4	we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently. who the primary beneficiaries of taxes are and you will realize that "bodily autonomy" and "nobody owes anything to anyone" is only brought up when we talk about romance Ok, it’s pretty clear you think paying money in taxes is good, and doing anything else that doesn’t make money is bad. Taking that into account… Children are net drains on your taxes and do not put money in. They are total leeches on the system for nearly 2 decades at a minimum. What specific acts do you believe children owe you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 09:24 PM
3	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer I didn’t get on accutane until 25 or 26. It is really a remarkable drug! But yeah, when I wanted it at like 18, the oral birth control tweaked my liver numbers just enough the dr was not ok with pushing it. I wouldn’t have needed birth control anyways, since I wasn’t having sex , but the official standard is that you need to be on 2 forms of birth control (usually oral contraceptive plus condoms). He didn’t tell me there was an option to do that without. Like, I get it. The drug causes horrifyin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 07:01 PM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer I had to switch doctors to get on Accutane… which is a whole nother level of thing if you’re a woman (since I wasn’t sexually active and my doctor was worried about my liver numbers when I tried oral contraceptives, I had to take a real genuine chastity pledge for the duration of the medication). I had previously been on tetracycline for so long it was starting to make my gums turn grey, and every skin peeling, reddening topic ointment and wash possible. Only accutane actually fixed the problem,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 02:42 PM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer Thank you for the apology. It was not magic. I put in a lot of work and self reflection and changed a lot of things in order to get any interest. I wasn’t fat, but everything else about me was apparently deeply undesirable. Serious acne, for one, plus just being personality-wise extremely not what most men want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 02:12 PM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer No, what you actually said was directed at me very specifically: But if you had no dating life not by choice and nagically manifested a husband in your mid 30s or something I will suspectva minor case of settling. If I am wrong I am wrong. If you meant any of this politely, then why did you mock me by claiming l “magically manifested” a husband? I didn’t magically do anything. I changed strategies and put myself out there more and differently and got more into fitness and *a shit ton of other st…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 02:55 PM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer So I can't assume the worst but you can? I didn’t assume the worst of you until you tried to be deliberately insulting to me. You know you meant it as an insult when you accused me of “settling”. You know exactly that you were dissing my husband— you were calling him unattractive and claiming he’s a loser simp. Don’t act like you didn’t say what you said and stop playing like you’re some innocent injured little lamb when you attacked me for no reason. I didn’t assume the worst of you until you s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 01:59 PM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer It is a streak of stupid desicions, If someone is continuing to make decisions that harm themselves and others… that’s actually bad. The easily foreseeable outcome of their actions is for children to be harmed, then it is morally important for them to find a way to escape. I have a great deal of sympathy for them in the sense that abuse can sneak up on you and abusers make it extremely dangerous to escape. But… it’s also still morally good to save your kids, and morally evil to decide every day …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 12:06 PM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer Being attracted to someone is not harmful or cruel. Agreed. But choosing to support someone by being their romantic partner— meaning you support them when they do shitty, and you do real work to make their shitty behavior easier— is actually bad behavior. For example. Let’s say you are a woman who falls in love with an abusive man, marry him, and have kids with him. And he beats you and beats your kids… do you think is it noble for her to stay with him and continue to help him beat those kids? W…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 12:47 AM
–	Why do some women find it so much more difficult to orgasm than others? Here’s my incredibly wild unfounded bullshit evo psych cockamamie navel-gazing explanation! It was evolutionarily very valuable for a woman to be able to identify a man who would be caring, attentive, and considerate to her in case she got pregnant. So female orgasm was something that evolved as a filter. Women who orgasmed easily with basically any man would have babies with men who didn’t care about them and wouldn’t support their kids… so lots more of these kids didn’t make it. Meanwhile, wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 11:14 PM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer Some have traumas that make them confuse abuse with love. This is absolutely true of many abusers and rapists as well. A traumatic past can explain bad decisions, but it does not mean that bad decisions are actually good ones. A person’s actions can still be harmful and cruel, even if there’s a sympathetic reason behind them. There are not many places where 5'7 guy is not considered too short. It is not “too” short for all women in most places. It is simply below average height in some countries…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 04:49 PM
2	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill You don’t know. Could be anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 01:08 AM
2	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill That's not how OP intended it Uh huh. Just ignore his words trust that you can read his mind and interpret for me instead. If words don’t matter, then why are you arguing with me? Maybe I didn’t intend any of the things I said that you think you disagree with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/26 04:50 PM
3	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer The second is your idea, I don't think they are bad themselves. As I mentioned before, the “sweet nice girl” who dates a bully is usually also a bully herself. She approves of that behavior and supports it. You likely just don’t recognize, or dismiss, the way women bully. It’s part of the whole “women are wonderful” thing for men to just blindly assume any pretty, surface-polite woman is automatically a good person… even if in actuality she is a conniving, backstabbing, and cruel to others. This…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/26 04:47 PM
2	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill The fact that people are altogether far to complex to cleanly map onto described social phenomena This is the very reason I don’t take their results particularly seriously. I agree that humans are very complex, and I don’t think they are particularly predictable. If you cannot make reliable predictions, then it isn’t a science. I support them continuing to do research and trying to figure it out. It’s a noble pursuit. But I do not default accept “but it’s been published in a psychology journal!”…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/26 04:23 PM
–	How undesirable are single dads? When I was single and didn’t have kids, a single dad was a very hard “no”. I was not interested in assuming the role of second to a kid I couldn’t discipline and would just say “you’re not my mom”. Plus, it’s just not worth it to try to figure out what he did wrong in his first marriage… or worse, if he had kids outside of marriage. I acknowledge divorce always has two sides. But I fortunately didn’t have to settle like this. and I’d also be suspicious why he’s trying to get an inexperienced wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/26 12:34 PM
2	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill Not wild at all. Look up the replication crisis.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/26 12:29 PM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer Nah, I don't call women dumbdumbs. Some are hypocrites, sure, but in general I can understand the allure of being attracted to someone bad and dangerous, And your hypothesis is that most of the men actually getting dates are bad and dangerous, and that most women are either too naive to know they’re dangerous, or are psychotic bad people themselves. Your every description paints these women as either terminally dumb or the kind of asshole shitheads who support evil violent men. Like, one of my f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/26 12:28 PM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer No, I don't know who is fun and who is boring and 80% of women in my age bracket I find physically attractive. But I can't get a date to save my life, Ah, so your explanation is that all women are the same: they’re all sweet naive little dumbdumbs… who also only ever want evil psychopath shitty men and they’re all broken and defective and never ever date a decent hood man like you. All women are exactly the same in every way and you can’t tell the difference between them, so it’s everything is a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/26 02:04 AM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer So when you think about it, how come for a junkie being a junkie is enough, Cuz junkies just wanna get high. but for a good girl qualities that I mentioned are not? They are enough for some women. You are likely not interested in them. It is not enough the hot fun sexy interesting ones who also are mentally stable. You said I’m one of the exceptionally rare “good one. Well let me tell you a secret about that: men didn’t give a shit and didn’t want me for that either. Most men don’t want a boring…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 04:19 PM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer Drug users do fine in dating, it even seems to me I'd do a lot better in dating if I was doing drugs. Yes, drug users mostly date other drug users… or they hide their habits and lie, and the whole relationship exploded horribly when the other person gets sick of their druggy thieving bullshit. So yes, you’d probss was my have an easier time finding a fellow druggie to date. If that is the kind of woman you prefer, then it would make a lot of sense for you to also do drugs. This is what I’m talki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 03:10 PM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer No, my friends are not saint. I mean, yeah. Like, if she’s knowingly dating a married man… she’s really really not actually a nice girl. One of my best friends’ friends from college was completely distraught that she had gone on a few dates with a man who was married— she broke up with him the instant she found out about the marriage. I think she is probably a pretty decent person because, when things got tough, she made the morally right choice and ended it on the spot. Like, yeah the man your …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 02:03 PM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer Some of them make pretty "bad" decisions in dating. You put the word “bad” in quotes here for a reason. How bad are they? Are they evil violent rapist men? Or are they the kind of normal guy you’d be friends with? Are all of your male and female friends saints? And how long were they with these guys? And do you make only perfect ideal judgements of who to date and never ever ask out women who are mean assholes? People don’t always judge other people perfectly, and sometimes make poor choices. Hu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:10 PM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer They are "normal" women in a sense that they look normal and interact with people normally. Just like rapists and murderers are “normal” men in the sense that they look normal and interact with people normally. But they are not “normal” women, as in “all women are like that”, just as most men are not violent rapist murderers, etc. Talking about how unfair it is that evil rapist murderer men get girlfriends is failing to recognize that those women are broken evil shits. It isn’t “unfair” that an …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:23 PM
3	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill I do not hate men. You lie and put your false bullshit words words in my mouth every time you respond to me. As I just explained, and you confirmed right here: I can say “hello how are you”, and you will immediately come shrieking at me that I hate men. It is not possible to have any kind of conversation with you because you always fucking lie about what I say and always make false accusations of hatred based on your own deep obsessive hatred of women. So Leave me alone. Really. I get it that yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:03 PM
2	if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killer It’s not “behavior we don’t like”, it’s actually terrible evil bad behavior! Yes, I can indeed call a woman a bad person for knowingly supporting a murderer! You really can’t even bring yourself to say that women who knowingly support serial murderers are bad people? This is the kind of crap “women are wonderful” is actually talking about. Even when the woman is an evil fucking psychopath, you guys are like “oh, but she’s pretty and female, she couldn’t possibly be a bad person!” Like dude… lear…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 11:41 AM
2	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill Are you seriously claiming shy people never interact with other humans? I am claiming they generally avoid it. A shy guy who doesn't act shy and asks out women will do fine. A shy guy who hides away in his basement or has nothing but one-word answers when a woman talks to him isn't gonna do great because he's giving every signal to women that he's not interested. But shy men do interact. They do make attempts. And when they do, they get humiliated I know way too many shy men who got the girl to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:25 AM
2	Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?" You should take it as a "how could anyone possibly know?". You don't know, and I don't know, because people in the past didn't bother to write down shit about women. Maybe women groveled and worshipped men exactly the way you want, and maybe they didn't. Men didn't care enough about the actions of women to record it either way. So why do you give a shit?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:20 AM
2	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill Shy men are shy. Shy people are resistant or even totally refrain from social contact. It’s not a misconception. It’s the definition of the word.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 07:39 PM
2	Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?" When did men ever give a shit about women’s thoughts?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 07:37 PM
–	Most here dont know what pump and dump means. She just answered you already. Are you trying not to read?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 07:36 PM
2	Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?" We can look at history and see all the many many ways in which women working their asses off was regarded as fucking nothing by the men in charge. Men have never appreciated female work. Ever	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 05:37 PM
–	Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?" He’s doing all that for hot women he likes. He ignores the women who aren’t super hot. There is no possible amount of work any normal average woman could ever do that would make him consider her. He only wants his pornographic fantasy women. Why put in work that isn’t valued or appreciated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 05:30 PM
2	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill Akwardness refers to showing interest akwardly. Oh, so they’re not shy, now, they’re just weird and cannot communicate their interest in any interpretable way. Whatever. Moving the goal posts forever so that women are always wrong and bad and evil. Seriously, why do you even give a shit that these evil evil beings aren’t torturing shy men with their hideous rotten presence? Lots of women date shy men— you must truly pity those men for being in the presence of such rotten, disgusting female creat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 05:28 PM
2	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill I’m sure if they tried the study again, they’d get the complete opposite answer. Psychology journals have very little credibility sorry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:45 AM
2	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill Being evil doesn't prevent dating. I think you’re going to have to quote where I said it does? Lacking flirting skills and smoothness does. As a woman who did into have these skills.i am well aware. You have to actually make yourself available and flirt for someone to think you want to date. This isn’t some crime, it’s people not wanting to force you to do something you are signaling that you don’t want to do. Most people want the person they try to date to actually want them back. Why do you th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:36 AM
10	Life as a woman in west is so much easier It sounds scary and dangerous to sell sex The best stats I’ve seen (it’s hard to gather obviously) suggest prostitution in the US is a lot more dangerous than any male-dominated profession.. (Apologies for formatting issues— there’s some kind of reddit update and I can’t see almost of what I’m typing to correct errors. I hope they revert this trashy buggy pop-up comment windo).	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 04:32 PM
2	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill And you're not talking about necessarily evil women but women with a recognized mental illness, who do not make good partners. I would suggest that any woman who is knowingly supporting an evil man is not a good person. And if she’s been married for years to a super violent man and doesn’t have a clue he’s violent… she is, bare minimum, lacking as a potential parent. Not sure how the potential for violence negates it. It would literally be better and safer for her if he didn’t like her. Do you t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 04:28 PM
3	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill The words are literally up there. He’s talking about wives and girlfriends. The word “prevent” doesn’t make a difference— why is a woman supposed to choose a man who avoids her and acts like he is uninterested? Women are not systematically hunting shy men down and rejecting them. Those men are just avoiding social interactions. There are shy men who ask women out and do get girlfriends and wives. I know some of them— one of them barely ever speaks, unless you know him really closely. OP’s claim …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 04:02 PM
3	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill For the 38386th time. Nobody is saying women prefer evil men. Again. Read the damned OP. He says really directly that women always prefer evil men over shy men. It’s in the headline, and it’s in his examples. All of his examples are of long term girlfirends. Not one is about what you’re talking about: that first 10 seconds when you interact with someone and you don’t know anything about them. Like, read for comprehension here bro. His example of Paul Bernardo is of a wife. His Ted Bundy example …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 01:03 PM
3	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill I’ve been invisible most of my life. Don’t presume to tell me what it’s like to be ignored. I get to be ignored for years and then have dudes like you tell me only the absolute most hideous worthless feeeemales would ever have fewer than 10,000 men proposing to them every day. Thanks for the reminder of that again. Being found attractive by people you aren't attracted to, maybe including people you even strongly dislike or disapprove of, is arguably better than not You think this because you do …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 12:36 PM
–	If All Women Want/Pursuing Tall Attractive Men, By Red Pill, Wouldnt That Mean Most Men are Doomed to be Beta buxes, "Safe guys" or Unselected? And Perhaps need to be Grouped as The Same Tier of Men? The survival rates of male-only lines vs female-only lines is not proof that women only date Chad historically. A whole lot of that was that male lines were systematically extinguished in war, while the female line was married out-of-clan and distributed farther. You know, cuz humans are fucking violent. There is no historical evidence that thousands of years ago women were all slutting it up with cave-chad and refusing to marry pocket-protector cave nerds.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 12:28 PM
2	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill I didn’t admit your bullshit made up shit . I admitted that men who talk are more appealing when you first meet than men who hide and never talk to you. You’re still fucking lyin and claiming I think women prefer Hitler. They literally do not know your morality based on 19 words any more than you know a girl is a saint because of her looks. Or maybe that’s what you believe— that pretty girls are good and ugly girls are evil? Since you expect women to discern someone’s character on first glance, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 12:20 PM
3	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill No, that’s not what I fucking said. You’re being dishonest because you’re pissed off that I disagree with your “women are all worthless trash” beliefs. If you have to put your own lying words in my mouth to try to discredit me, I think you’re done. You are the one who claimed women are dating Hitler. You are the one who stains women should instantly know that a charming guy is actually Hitler right from the very moment he approaches. You are the one who claimed women treat awkward men like the w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 12:12 PM
2	If you are looking for an obedient wife the red pill probably won’t get you there. How does “so I should just think women are inferior” get you to any kind of decent polite conversation? You asked me something intentionally bitchy. So you got the same energy you put in. If you wanted a conversation about the concept of submission, you’d would have brought that up directly and conversationally. “I should just think women are inferior” ain’t a conversation starter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 12:01 PM
3	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill Ok, I can say that my life is better when serial killers don’t ask me out. I think you should speak for yourself when you claim you want these evil psycho bitches trying to get with you. It makes far more logical sense that you’d get the ego boost from actually fucking these women, dude. You want options because you want to exercise your options. If all your options were these evil psychopaths, you’d either a> be unhappy you can’t get a woman you actually like or b) be happy you could fuck them.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 11:59 AM
4	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill I am not interested in talking to you ever, Brian Marshall. Based on experience talking to you, it doesn’t matter what I say, you’ll always make up irrelevant bullshit and claim I said shit I have never ever said. EvI could say “hello how are you”, and you’d put fake words in my mouth and scream that I’m a man-hater. No. Don’t talk to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 11:55 AM
3	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill If you approach women akwardly, they all treat you far worse than if you approach them with charm. Explain to me why you think charm is literally Hitler. And why you think a woman is supposed to psychically know, when you first fucking approach that you are Hitler. Being charming is more attractive than being socially awkward. It does not mean the vast majority of women actually want Hitler and hate a decent guy. It is astounding to me that you blame women for not knowing if a guy is a serial ki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 11:51 AM
3	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill He says that women treat shy good men worse than horrible (but charming) men. And this is true. No, It is not true. You It is true of shitty women. It is not true of all the millions and billions of women who do not do that shit. What you, and OP and all the other dudes here failing to get this, are failing to do is to distinguish between women. It is an indication that a lot of men don’t care about the personality, moral values, or character of the woman they date. If she’s hot and is willing t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 11:40 AM
2	If you are looking for an obedient wife the red pill probably won’t get you there. What kind of "conversation" were you hoping for with "I should just start seeing women as inferior"? Like, what brilliant conversation do you think that "hypothetical" was supposed to provoke? I'm now curious what words you were hoping to get out of me with such a disingenuous attempt to blame me for your beliefs. Maybe this is more of that "male accountability" red pill keeps bragging about?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 12:09 AM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill Almost as if you can be meek and shy AND a violent misogynist all at the same time. And so what if he hypothetically would get love letters from absolute shit women? Whyyyyy are you guys so absolutely into these trash tier women. Seriously.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 12:06 AM
2	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill Most women don’t date or fuck evil men, I don’t know what to tell you that you believe that normal women are all pining for hot serial murderers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 10:27 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill “Women as a group” means almost all women if not every single one of them. Sorry, buddy, but no matter how hard you want to wallow in your victim complex, but the actual majority of women are actually not rape victims, or dating serial killers, or getting abused. And how totally not surprising you want to blame rape victims for being forced. Like yeah, fucking duh, the dude who raped 100 women has more rape victims than the dude who doesn’t. Wtf is wrong with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 10:26 PM
2	If you are looking for an obedient wife the red pill probably won’t get you there. So I should just start seeing women as the inferior sex lol, dude you already do. Nobody who actually sees women as equals would whine “maybe I should just view women as inferiors because you disagree with my pet cult program”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 10:19 PM
2	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill If women are all rejecting ALL of the weak shy unmasculine men in favor of evil violent misogynists, then they are necessarily rejecting the decent ones. He set them up as two contrasting groups: evil men vs weak shy guys. And considering this whole discussion is about women choosing evil men… but maybe you’re right and he’s actually pretty mad that women reject evil violent weak shy misogynist men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 05:50 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill He wants them as options because he wants them as options It does not make any sense to want an option you do not want. It’s entirely illogical. “I want this thing I absolutely I don’t want and am totally disgusted by !!!”— said nobody sane ever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 05:48 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill Is glossophobia considered a mental illness? Hybristophilia is considered a paraphilia… where the para prefix means abnormal. Apologies if there’s any formatting… I don’t know what Reddit’s update is on my phone, but I can’t see what I’m editing half the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 05:43 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill I have already been informed dahmer was gay. Changes nothing: the others weren’t gay and women avoided them. And no, OP said that women all universlly prefer violent men over nice shyer men. Not “occassionally a totally broken psycho woman will fall in love with a broken psycho man from afar”. You’re trying real hard to steel man his argument, but he said what he said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 05:41 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill He accused all women of preferring violent genuinely evil men over decent shy men, and he used psycho women who chase serial killers as his example of how he thinks women behave.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 05:39 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill Yeah, that’s also part of the issue. Child abuse and child sexual abuse are genuine plagues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 04:58 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill He does not believe normal women exist. He accuses all women of being hybristophiliacs… contrary to any real world evidence you could present. If he does not believe boring normal women who like decent men exist, it is only natural to conclude that he is attracted to the only women he thinks exist. Again, unless he’s gay or asexual.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 04:58 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill >Sorry that any any all references to females being as imperfect a human being as men are is so utterly an impossible fact for you. 🙄 I have no problem admitting women are not perfect. I have a problem with braindead claims that all women are psycho-evil-bitches who all want bad boys. Look around the real world: most women aren't doing this shit, just like most men aren't psycho killers. >Because her equally morally bankrupt accomplices found her "irresistible" is in no way the same It's totally…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 03:51 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill I agree that you are allowed to have wrong opinions I have never wanted to write to a serial killer, nor have I ever fucked or dated a trash evil man. Your opinions are just wrong. But you are totally free to have dumb opinions that contradict reality if you want. And I am free to point to the facts that show your feelings are not accurate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 03:06 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14789949.2019.1588911 Yes. Men can also by hybristophiliacs. Sorry to break your “men are wonderful, women are rotten evil slugs” beliefs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 03:01 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill It is not character assassination. It is an observation of behavior. He is so hyperfocuesed on terrible women that he denies that any woman exist who are not terrible. Me pointing that out isn’t manipulative. It’s being observant of the deep irony. Also I apologize if this is the 3rd time I responded to you. The web portal seems to have had some kind of update that makes it nearly impossible to post comments. It’s absolute dogshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 03:00 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill This phenomena is so common that mental health diagnosis actually gives it a name ..... hybristophilia. The fact it has a mental health name means it is actually rare, not universal. There are names for diseases that have only ever affected a single patient on record. But it is telling that OP finds these deeply broken women to be the most appealing. However, her popularity with any/all men stopped cold the very day she was exposed as a killer As far as I can tell from online, no. She still rece…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 01:13 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill Easy. Because they are the women he is hyperfocused on. He doesn’t give a single shit about the boring women who avoid rotten men like the plague. Literally a majority of women have never been abused (and many women who were abused had no choice, since they were children at the time). He doesn't have any interest in the women who choose better. He does not even acknowledge they exist, brah. It’s clear he only has eyes for the bad girls.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 01:06 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill Well, considering OP wants to date the worst women alive, I don’t see why he thinks he has the moral high ground. There’s loads of women who do not want to date evil Tor asshole men, and choose not to. OP does not want the nice women who won’t put up with that shit though, because he wants the kind of bad girl who will let him abuse them. And as for fucking rapists… dude the whole way they “get” these women is through force. Did the definition of rape elude you or something? Women are not choosi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 01:02 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill lol, fair. I just did a quick google ai and didn’t check carefully, and I don’t exactly keep a facebook on serial killers. You’re right, he was gay and murdered men. Also, seriously fuck Reddit’s new comment interface for preventing me from being able to select more than one word at a time. And for moving the window half offscreen half the time so I can’t see what I type. Total trash update (or A/B test, if they’re slow rolling this one). Buggy as fuck, if you Reddit devs are actually monitoring…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 12:59 PM
2	DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵 Reddit has changed the comment interface on cell/mobile, and if SUUUUCKKKS. It doesn’t let you select more than one word now, so if you wanna copy or delete anything, you have to taptaptaptaptaptaptaptaptaptaptaptaptaptap the delete instead. Sooooooo bad. Thank you for listening to my off topic rant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 12:29 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill Ted Bundy, Paul Bernardo, Toy Box Killer… you are cherry picking. Elliot Rogers, David Berkowitz, Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Kaczinski. All struggled desperately with women. There’s even a specific case when a serial killer went on a dating show, and the woman totally avoided just one date with the guy, he was so friggin creepy. You, like many black pill guys are making up a little narrative so you can wallow in self-pity and self righteousness… all while absolutely desperately wishing you cou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 11:39 AM
12	“Pair bonding™️” feels like a self-serving male fantasy about how men wished women attached to men And yet in spite of childbirth and breastfeeding both causing the woman’s body to be flooded with far more oxytocin than any sexual encounter, the “pair bonding” crowd does not ever claim that oxytocin in those cases cause a woman to loose a pair bond with the father of her child. Nor do they claim that women are capable of pair bonding only with their first child, but then cease to be able to love any children after the first. The “oxytocin burnout” theory red pillers have for why women should …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 12:48 PM
3	"Hypergamy" is just a way to blame women for men's lack of effort to attract them You can't compare male attractiveness to female attractiveness one to one You also cannot compare male and female attractiveness due to career/status/strength/size/height/whatever because men are attracted to these things differently than women are. Yet the “women are hypergamous” crowd you’re defending insists that women are inferior to their partners based on those more masculine attraction metrics anyways. Why do you judge women to be inferior to their partners based on career status when men…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 06:07 PM
0	If you were born male, do you think you'd be doing better than other men in areas that you criticize men for? I dunno? Like, if I were still me but as a man (which doesn’t make any sense, since I would not be me as a man)… but whatever, I’m sure I’d be a pathetic fucking unwanted loser in romance, just like I am as a woman. I’m very mediocre in looks, and according to the men here, that is all that matters as a woman. It’s enough to make me a complete failure. But if I take my male relatives as an example, they seem to do fine with women. So looks wise, I’d probably be okay. Not peak Chad megaslut perfo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 05:50 PM
1	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? I also do not think being dominant in the context of a relationship means being an abusive violent asshole. Your literal next sentence after that was describing the fact that you think you have to be dangerous: I have to dangerous without being threatening. Like. No. You don’t have to be dangerous. Some women want you to be violent to others, but you need to take responsibility and pick better women. All I was saying is that the social expectation for men to all be dominant is one I don't partic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 12:11 PM
–	I don’t want to give him “that satisfaction” is one of the most overlooked power dynamics in dating. Humans are capable of many other emotions other than just spite. Why assume the worst by default, just because they are women? Why is it you assume that the only reason a woman won’t ask you out is because she deliberately wants to hurt your feelings? This line of thought (from OP) is just so self-centered— it assumes everything anyone does is all about your feelings. All it is is wallowing in made-up victimhood. No, a woman not asking you out doesn’t mean she’s trying to spite you. Just because…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 12:06 PM
2	I don’t want to give him “that satisfaction” is one of the most overlooked power dynamics in dating. Really? Ok so you admit it was all your problem and responsibility the whole time, no matter what anyone told you and you chose to make those decisions? Great. Yes… when I was an adult, it was my responsibility to do better. My actions were all my own, even when I made poor choices. However, i do not blame myself for being dumb and following advice I was taught while I was still a child. And like I already fucking said, and you keep ignoring so you can play your cynical whiny game: I took respon…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 12:02 PM
1	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? I agree men were legally allowed to be terrible and were not punished for bad behavior. That was not a standard set by women. Women did not want to be beaten and murdered, no matter how much you fantasize they they love being abused. Women always had the standard that men should treat them kindly, and the church taught that men should be like Christ. You are delusional to think that women were begging to be killed, dude. Actually no. I think it's so horribly cruel and unfair that feminists conti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 12:03 AM
–	I don’t want to give him “that satisfaction” is one of the most overlooked power dynamics in dating. Most women say people told them things or "taught them" and they NEVER did Ok, blah blah blah. You telling me you know all about the lives of other women changes nothing. I told you literally exactly what I was taught, and you’re still “but other women just made up what they learned just to spite me”. Like ok, whatever dude. I don’t care about your conspiracy theories. Taking responsibility is fine, but blaming people you think "taught" you is not the way 🙄 Still so dishonest. I didn’t blame any…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:25 PM
–	I don’t want to give him “that satisfaction” is one of the most overlooked power dynamics in dating. But why did you continue to take it? I didn’t. I learned and changed over time. Which I already said multiple times. Can’t you read? Or do you just not understand accountability? And notice how the goal posts changed: first it was “nobody told you this”, but now it’s “why weren’t you born knowing every fucking thing under the sun, hmmm???” Fucking ridiculous 🤡 Studies already show women are extremely risk averse (obviously, look around) and the reason: Exactly what I predicted you’d do: lie abou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 05:04 PM
–	I don’t want to give him “that satisfaction” is one of the most overlooked power dynamics in dating. It is so profoundly, childishly, self-centered. The world revolves around them, in their heads.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 04:51 PM
–	I don’t want to give him “that satisfaction” is one of the most overlooked power dynamics in dating. How is it weird when spite and malice are consistently part of their interactions with women. It is not. Your self-pitying cynicism is not an objective measure of reality. The initial claim is that women are not asking men out out of pure spite: you seriously somehow believe that women are simply refusing to jump on your collective dicks because they want to hurt men’s feelings. I cannot fathom being this self centered that you think someone simply living their life somehow all about you, lol.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 04:50 PM
2	If you are looking for an obedient wife the red pill probably won’t get you there. That's not a core belief of the red pill at all. “Hypergamy” is absolutely a core red pill belief. No matter what talents she has, no matter what skills or what features, red pill says that if she fucks a man, it means she is inferior to him. Because she is hypergamous, it must mean he’s better than her. Yes it’s a dumb circular sexist belief. It is also red pill at its core. Now, if you said women naturally want a man that is superior to them Exactly— there is no talent, no skill, no feature th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 04:45 PM
–	I don’t want to give him “that satisfaction” is one of the most overlooked power dynamics in dating. No, I was taught by religion and religious conservative parents that women are supposed to be submissive. Not “society”. And I literally did take responsibility for my beliefs and change. But you will not acknowledge that because it doesn’t fit your “women are all stupid ” narrative. So just go off and enjoy your little circle jerk.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 04:38 PM
–	I don’t want to give him “that satisfaction” is one of the most overlooked power dynamics in dating. Taught by who and how exactly? My parents and religion. Literally I already told you religion in the prior comment. Why are you confused? Women are told to be passive and submissive to men— they are told very explicitly that leadership from women is the path to pride and falling into hell. My sisters told me this years ago Ok, that’s nice for you. I’m telling you directly. My parents told me always that if I was just patient and waited then a good man would find me and ask me. They told me to be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 04:38 PM
2	AWALT is used by guys who are bad judges of character. I do not consider someone “subhuman” I've already discussed at length how humanization is an active choice, And I told you not to project your beliefs onto others. Just because you believe that only around 150 people (the amount you can genuinely know) are truly human, does not mean the rest of us are like that. I do not have to personally know someone or even pay attention to them personally to regard them as a human being worthy of respect and dignity. No human is “subhuman”. I wish you could …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 02:36 PM
–	I don’t want to give him “that satisfaction” is one of the most overlooked power dynamics in dating. I know the reason I didn’t when I was young. It’s because I was taught that my role, as a woman, was to be passive and receptive, and that I should wait for men to approach me. Men will pursue the women they actually like… and if you had to approach him, it’s because you’re not desirable at all. It took a long time of being ignored and left alone to unlearn those deeply ingrained trash (also religious) gender roles. It is so weird you guys always assume infinite spite and malice to women for eve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 02:17 PM
-2	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? I have to be kind and respectful while still taking charge and being dominant. This one ain’t new. It’s literally what men were taught in the West for millenia. It’s the Christian tradition. It’s been the standard of masculinity in the west for a very long time. Certainly my silent generation father was taught this as a child, and so was his greatest generation father, and on and on and on way back. I don’t know where you are from that you think men in the past weren’t supposed to be kind and re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 09:18 AM
3	If you are looking for an obedient wife the red pill probably won’t get you there. And are there times you follow her lead, when she knows more about something than you do, say, making appointments and or cooking or budgeting? If he is a red pill man (I don’t know if that guy is), or has some “men should lead and women should follow” mentality, then he has likely never even considered the possibility that she would be better at him at anything in life. For example, red pill, one of the very core red pill beliefs is that women are always 100% inherently and profoundly inferior …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 09:03 AM
6	If you are looking for an obedient wife the red pill probably won’t get you there. Is disagreeableness a positive trait? Is it worth being with a "bad bitch" considering the "bitch" aspect? You guys clearly think being a disagreeable bossy-britches is a highly positive trait in men. And now you’re trying to shame women for not wanting to put up with someone who is a disagreeable “bitch”. Your whole problem is that most women don’t like disagreeable domineering bossy britches either. It’s why you’re trying to scold women into submission— they’re not interested men being bitches…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 08:53 AM
6	If you are looking for an obedient wife the red pill probably won’t get you there. Why do you assume its female emotions that are in conflict and not say her thoughts or logic? Its pretty telling you said feelings and not thought processes. That says to me you do not value what she has to say. It is conditional cooperation. Its very conditional. She can always leave. You should be a husband not a tyrant. Yes, I noticed this too, and it is incredibly telling that he believes that what he thinks is the logical correct answer, and whatever she thinks is just dumb woman emotions t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 08:49 AM
2	AWALT is used by guys who are bad judges of character. Everybody's got shit to deal with, so I'm not in the habit of assigning blame when people fall short of the ideal. Yeah you absolutely blame people for not being worthy of your attention: you view everyone as subhuman when you don’t have time for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 08:11 AM
3	No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity test There are legion of female-identified poasters in this thread indicating they would go apeshit. You plan to marry a mean evil yucky feminist woman you despise? How very interesting. The question still remains: why do you want this woman to bear and raise your child, when you truly believe she’s nothing more than a stupid apeshit psycho? I will also point out that there is a huge fucking difference between talking to your wife about your needs before knocking her up like a big boy, and waiting un…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 08:09 AM
3	Manosphere supporting Age Gap relationships to a fault is strange. The real hypergamy	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:45 AM
2	AWALT is used by guys who are bad judges of character. I said "regarding them," point-blank period. So you admit that you see almost everyone on earth as a subhuman. You have not “regarded” even a tiny fraction of people in your own life. Everyone you have failed to grace with your direct attention is not human to you. Stop projecting your own weird desire to view the majority of humanity as subhuman on the rest of us.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:02 AM
1	No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity test Nobody said anything about blind trust. You are making stuff up. But you should not marry or breed with someone you do not trust enough to talk to them, and do not respect at all. No smart individual should ever do that when so much is at stake. What is at stake with talking? All I can see are men being total cowards who do not respect the woman they married or the woman they expect to be the mother of their children Why are you guys so dead set on marrying women you think are such lowlife trash…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 11:59 PM
10	AWALT is used by guys who are bad judges of character. There are 9 billion people on earth. Not regarding each and every one of them as a sexual partner does not mean you see them all as “subhuman”. It means you don’t have enough time in the day to actually pay attention to each person individually. Thats not a moral failing, it’s just that if I tried to pay attention to everyone individually, it would take sixty years, non-stop, to give each person on earth 0.2 seconds of my time. It is not considering someone subhuman to fail to meet that ridiculo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 04:20 PM
6	Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married him K, good luck with that. Lots hotter men will want her too, but glad you’ve got some real confidence. Thats lacking around this sub, for sure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 02:57 PM
2	No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity test What reality are you referencing? There are millions of different realities for millions of different couples. Be specific, instead of these 10 word empty answers. Is it your assertion that it is common for a man tells his wife before she got pregnant that he would like to have a paternity test, and then for her to invariably and automatically go apeshit and kill him? Do you believe there are zero women alive who would be able to have a basic conversation without turning into a psycho fembot? My…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 02:57 PM
3	Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married him Let’s say it’s 5%: changes nothing. How are you going to compete? All other men value these women above all others, lol. This is male hypergamy in action.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 02:44 PM
0	No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity test You’d be fine with not trusting your wife to talk to her? Why did you marry this dumb bitch? Why are you having children with someone you think is too stupid to have a basic conversation? You do know that your children will inherit from her and be raised with her values, right? Why do you want to have children with someone loser you do not respect? I genuinely cannot fathom this at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 02:43 PM
4	No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity test They want it run by the government so the individual man doesn’t have to be responsible for his own actions Yeah, this is why these online weirdos want it run by the government. They do not want to have any accountability for their own choices. It’s why they blame women for everything (quick “not all men” caveat— I know most men are not insane like these mandatory-paternity-test weirdos.) And yes, this too: they also hope it’ll mean more women and kids are out starving on the streets because she…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 02:41 PM
3	No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity test I literally said they should take the test. Why would they be raising another man’s child? You are confused. I’m saying the man sneaking around behind her back in secret doesn’t trust his wife because he cannot even talk to her. He assumes the fucking worst of her and treats her like she’s bit actually a partner. Again, it is fine for him to get the test. I agree he should take one if he wants it. But his keeping it a secret because “what she doesn’t know won’t hurt me” is still dishonest and co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 02:34 PM
6	Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married him Women who have a male libido? Women are not men. Why do you assume women would have male biology? Most women like sex. The vast majority of women do not desperately seek it out the way men do. That is the whole reason so many men are never ever satisfied. Men say they never ever get enough sex. Obviously women who actually satisfy the male appetite are rare	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 02:25 PM
2	No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity test Yes, a lot of men would prefer not to actually trust their wife as an equal partner. It is astonishing you guys are willing to let this woman presumably bear your child and raise it, but you also think she’s too stupid and mean and untrustworthy to be able to handle you being honest. Thats just how it is. I am jealous of men here— women do not have any equivalent test they can run in secret to verify a man’s fidelity and honesty. You expect her to trust you with no proof of any kind whatsoever, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 02:20 PM
13	No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity test Yes. I also don’t get why so many guys want to have the government mandate universal paternity tests instead of nutting up and just getting the test. It’s cheap legal and easily available. If you think there is some 0.00004% chance your wife is an evil lying cheating bitch, and it is mentally important to you to get the test to have peace of mind, then why are you being a coward about it? To avoid the “I bet you cheated on me” problem, you could have explained before knocking her up that it is i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 12:25 PM
–	Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married him If you want to marry someone with a male libido, that is your choice. You can either find that top 2% woman (that all other men want too!), or go gay.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 12:11 PM
–	Women know when other women are low quality. Redpill Men chase them and call it 'Female Nature'. Men here insist those shitty women are extremely common, nearly ubiquitous. That all women are trash. So no, it’s not a very obscure example within the context of this sub.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 11:59 AM
–	Women detest men who “just want to have sex” yet live exactly like that from age 18 to 32 or so. Yes, what one person said doesn't matter In a debate with that person, what they said matters. You want to have a totally different argument, and for some absurd reason, you thought jumping in to insult me with a stupid meme would convince me to debate you on a topic that is not what OP said. you would be easily able to show me, but you failed to do so. Looks like you don’t read. I already pointed out that OP did not say anything about averages or statistical samples or “some” or “most”. I don’t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 11:33 AM
2	How do the conversations about women willing to do naughtier things with past partners come up? And appeal to emotion doesn't work here. Yeah, truly astonishing women aren’t sympathetic to your obsession with making them suffer to stroke your ego. 🙄 If she wanted someone else to inflict those things to see if she likes it when they inflict them or if she just wanted to try something that resulted in those things even if they weren't planned- then why wouldn't she want to try it with you? Cuz she already knows she doesn’t like it. This isn’t complicated. And what is this “even if they weren…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 11:19 AM
3	Men who criticize women for not going after the good guy don’t care about getting a good woman either. You said very specifically: My experience is women will act as shitty as you permit them. People who are like that are bad people. You do not hang around any good women evidently.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 11:10 PM
2	If women are the problem, why do you want them to birth and raise more kids? Honestly, it’s been a week and you’re really not top of my priorities. I don’t even remember whether you’re arguing to force people who hate each other to stay married, or just anti men taking care of their own kids. Both seem kinda par for the course around here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 11:08 PM
–	Women detest men who “just want to have sex” yet live exactly like that from age 18 to 32 or so. Regardless of what he said What he said doesn’t matter? I get it, you feel like you can just make up whatever you want in an effort to try to call other people incompetent. Sorry, “what someone says in a debate doesn’t matter” is not how any debate work ever. You came in trying to smart off at me about basic logic— and you are wrong . I didn’t do the stupid shit you’re blasting me with in your condescending little pictogram meme. Seriously, learn how to debate instead of trying to “gotcha” peopl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 09:34 PM
–	Women detest men who “just want to have sex” yet live exactly like that from age 18 to 32 or so. Nice try, but not applicable here. He didn’t say jack shit about averages, or most women, or some women or anything. His exact statement is exactly: My point is women chastise and complain about men “just wanting sex” while getting fucked every Friday with a new man thruout their entire 20s. He is claiming all women are stupid slutty hypocrites. I didn’t do any of that. So it is actually patently false that “women” are doing this. All it takes to disprove a universal claim is just one single cou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 08:16 PM
2	If women are the problem, why do you want them to birth and raise more kids? Yeah, the guy might be murdering her “Might”… you have no clue. Unless you yourself are admitting that that’s the reason you murdered a girlfriend, you should probably lead the speculating about motive to the prosecutors. I also find it fairly terrifying that you think it is only rational for men to murder their wives and girlfriends. You don’t even seem to understand the correlation here. It could just as easily be that men get annoyed that she’s no longer attractive. Or that he’s just a worthl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 08:10 PM
7	Men who criticize women for not going after the good guy don’t care about getting a good woman either. Did I say my only dealings with women have been bad? 😂 what? You said every single one of the women you have ever dealt with lack morals and only behave if you keep them in line. Yes, those women are all bad. Anyone that spineless and immoral is genuinely a bad person. Sorry you didn’t know that anyone who only behaves while being watched is actually a bad person. Glad I could teach you. but without fail If, without fail, she acts like gutter trash unless you punish her… she’s a bad person, lol.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 05:02 PM
9	Men who criticize women for not going after the good guy don’t care about getting a good woman either. Then your experience is apparently with only shitty women. 🤷‍♀️ Upstanding moral women do not do trashy shit because they refuse to on their own morals. It is only trashy women who refrain from doing trashy immoral shit merely out of fear some man will beat them, lol. The same goes for men, by the way— a man who only just barely behaves tolerably out of fear of punishment isn’t a good guy. He’s a spineless shit without his own moral code.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 03:53 PM
11	How do you explain the "Dark Romance" Boom? Hmmm, ok. Almost all men watch porn, and one of the most popular genres of porn is incest. I await seeing how your explanation suddenly is “no no, that’s different. I don’t wanna fuck my mom!”	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 02:02 PM
–	If women cannot be at peace with being the more sexually valuable gender, heterosexual dating can't become better. The world is trending towards women denying their beauty I know this is hard to believe, but a lot of the women denying their beauty are actually ones you would not consider beautiful. You see words online, and then on your head you imagine they’re all hot. But you really do not see or understand that most women are not the “girl next door” beauties you’re picturing as average.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 12:30 PM
51	Women detest men who “just want to have sex” yet live exactly like that from age 18 to 32 or so. while hooking up with a guy and having basically no real relationship outside of that. Ok, I didn’t. Not once. Your point is invalid now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 08:40 PM
6	If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized? So your belief is that women’s choices don’t matter for “civilization” anyways, and never mattered for al of history. So should women make themselves miserable for nothing? Picking these violent hateful incels won’t make them better people or make them more peaceful. Lol, what an empty con you’re trying to run: date these lonely men for no reason whatsoever— you dating them definitely won’t pacify their shit-tier hateful violent behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 05:00 PM
–	If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized? Honestly, since apparently men are so destructive and disruptive when they don’t get whatever they want, you ought to say thank you to all these women laying down for you and keeping you safe from an incel apocalypse. Oh what? You’ll never ever thank any woman for pacifying this violent rotten evil men? Why no gratitude to all the women of history for sacrificing themselves to keep men peaceful? Why no gratitude to women for the comparatively safe and peaceful world you live in? If you actually …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 01:11 PM
0	Are you sure size doesn't matter? They ethier do it in privately or are rich and high positioned enough to to simply get away with it. I assert that you are making this up in your own head: how are you even observing this behavior it if is rich powerful people talking in secret backrooms? I have never been in the room where it happened… are you claiming that you are a rich and powerful man, and that rich and powerful women are constantly confessing to you that they hate men? I cannot express how incredibly unrealistic this all s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 08:31 PM
2	“Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional. You found every way to dismiss other people’s loneliness as not real, including saying it’s just an “extreme” example, saying they just shouldn’t be lonely because they have friends and family already, and that they should just wait to die. And to me specifically, you dismissed my personal example with “it’s different because you can just go out anywhere and be accepted and loved by default”. A “nu uh, women can never ever be lonely” response. I really don’t see why you object to the advice of “…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 06:45 PM
37	Why do women on this sub seem to consider pregnancy to never be worth it. legacy This one is such an odd sentiment, and I have only ever seen it expressed by men. You say having children will leave a “legacy”… but honestly, what does that really mean and why does that matter so much to you? Like, a lot of men who want children as a “legacy” barely even interact with their kids. In what way are you yourself a “legacy” of your ancestors? And in particular, since you’re asking women in particular… how do you personally represent the legacy of any of your female ancestors…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 06:17 PM
1	“Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional. So in other words, “just be happy being single” is your literal advice for others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 04:57 PM
5	Women know when other women are low quality. Redpill Men chase them and call it 'Female Nature'. Is men having preferences for toxic women even a thing? I just explained how some do. It is indeed apparently a thing for the men who harp endlessly on how women always choose evil violent men and how women are all dumb whores— these guys are clearly obsessed with women who choose evil violent men. They say women should “choose better” because they want those women to choose them. They ignore the women who already choose better. For example, there is a whole theme of men in this sub claiming wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 04:53 PM
–	Men who have a hard time getting laid, do you read romance novels? Considering how rampant “ravaging” is across the romance genre, I suspect telling socially maladjusted men to just read romance novels to understand women better is actually pretty bad advice. Like, do you really want these often hyper-literalist men to read 50 shades of grey and think that writing up an unbreakable bondage obedience contract is a good idea? Even in more recent popular stuff like bridgerton… doesn’t Daphne rape her husband? Yeah, I don’t think this is good advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 12:37 PM
3	Women know when other women are low quality. Redpill Men chase them and call it 'Female Nature'. I’ll be honest: this trend with red pill men is one of the funniest parts of red pill to me. They totally hyperfocus on women with 5 different baby daddies, Instagram baddies with a bajillion followers who insist on dying to Dubai for a first date, fickle flaky women who cannot be reasoned with, women who pick the absolute WORST men every time, etc… And then instead of examining their own toxic preferences for bad women, they just dismiss any accountability for their preferences with “AWALT”. 🤣 …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 12:31 PM
1	“Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional. Lolwut? It’s not “extreme” at all— it’s an incredibly common life experience for one person in a couple to die before the other. Plus she’s lived with love in her life and built a family. Ah, so loneliness isn’t real if you have friends and family? That sounds like exactly the same advice and shallow dismissal you were initially criticizing in your OP… but now you are happy to dish it out yourself. I hope you noticed that you literally dished out “just be happy being single” as your go to advice…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 12:25 PM
0	“Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional. If you’re someone who knows you could find a partner relatively easily if you wanted one, staying single is a choice. I did not believe at that I could “find a partner relatively easily if I wanted one” at any point in my life. I have always been ignored by men for relationships and sex, and I genuinely believed I would be single for life for most of my life. “Just be happy being single” was the theory I lived by for most of my life, and no, men were not throwing themselves at me. I was unwanted…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 12:14 PM
1	Are you sure size doesn't matter? Except men are not the same in women in pretending that it is virtue signalling. I disagree, and I’ve shown you examples of men virtue signaling right here. And your response to that was to accuse me of hating men. You are not debating in good faith. You are ranting, and you are accusing anyone who debates with you of being an evil man-hating villain. I’m not interested in continuing with your dishonesty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 11:59 AM
0	Are you sure size doesn't matter? highly doubt it when one’s socially expectable and one will give you an immediate trip to HR Tell me you have never ever worked in a corporate environment without telling me, lol. No, it’s not fucking “expectable” or acceptable to tell anyone to die in the workplace, man or woman. Stop doomscrolling this curated manosphere stupid bullshit and touch grass. Those numbers are impossible to prove btw it’s just that women throw themselves at the most likely men to behave like this. This must be more …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 11:56 AM
3	Question for men: How many women did you approach in 2026? You said catcalling. Let me help you with that. Here is the definition a usually loud, sexually suggestive, threatening or harassing call or remark directed at someone publicly (as on the street) Catcalling is not politely chatting with a woman and politely saying she looks nice, bro. Stop trying to pretend women are totally unreasonable for not wanting some random dude they don’t know to scream at her that he wants to clap her cheeks. You know how to behave in public; try doing that instead of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 06:56 PM
2	Are you sure size doesn't matter? It was a super quick google search cuz I’m not writing a thesis here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 06:51 PM
3	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. with women trying to literally be men by always competing to meet male metrics Men don’t respect women for meeting “female metrics”, whatever those are supposed to be. So why bother? I’d personally rather get paid for a lifetime of actual real respected work, than get paid for a few years for being pretty, thanks. And that’s especially true since i know I’m not that hot. instead of simply competing with other women to to be better women? I was just told by another man here that there’s basically…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 04:55 PM
1	Are you sure size doesn't matter? Women tell short men to kill themselves all the time No. You are clearly trolling if you think this is normal behavior anywhere. The numbers are much smaller The number of women telling short men to die is way smaller than the number of men telling unattractive women to die, but you’re only here to shame women and glaze for men. Things like dating about statistics also back up that men have been less picky for decades. Why do you think that being willing to suck it up and fuck someone you don’t …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 04:43 PM
3	Question for men: How many women did you approach in 2026? Yeah, if benign complements like this creeps girls and women out Dude, yelling at someone about how you like their body is very very aggressive, demanding behavior. It is neither benign nor polite. Are you incapable of saying “hi” politely to someone without screaming gross “compliments” at them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 04:35 PM
2	Are you sure size doesn't matter? Attractive women date attractive men, an average guy will be invisible to them most of the time. Average men are not invisible to average women. What % of men in elder care facilities are single? Fewer. 65-70%	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 04:33 PM
1	Question for men: How many women did you approach in 2026? It's about the woman and if she feels safe for a random guy to approach her. That's what I am worried about. I don’t think this is a rational level of worry. Are you approaching a woman in a public place politely? Why would that feel unsafe? I’m assuming you’re not using threatening or menacing gestures or body language here, you’re not coming up waaaaay too close, or grabbing her, or yelling at her, or making physically threatening movements, or making a scary threatening face, right? So why ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 04:14 PM
1	Question for men: How many women did you approach in 2026? Well for starters, don’t be so judgy: being in a bar doesn’t mean you’re an alcoholic. And to talk to people you don’t know well, it can indeed be awkward. If you’re polite and friendly and respect a rejection (including a softer rejection), it’s really not the end of the world. so the answer I would get is just "good" or "ok". How do you know how a woman will reply if you never try? Stop rejecting yourself preemptively. It is ok to approach people and chat with them, and for that to either beco…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 02:43 PM
1	Are you sure size doesn't matter? Most men don’t date fat or ugly or old women. Average men often date women they like for a bit, and then are single for a long time. It’s basically a lot of men trading among the attractive women for and leaving the ugly women alone. For example, it is a statistical fact that 85% of women in elder care facilities are single… you just don’t consider them to be women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 02:26 PM
6	Is true that men marry the convenient women they CAN have, while spend their lives secretly obsessing over the women they truly desire but can't have? But most are happy as long as they are having sex. The endless complaints about a woman settling clearly shows otherwise. You are very eager to cling to this very rosy view of men, but it kinda required ignoring how men speak and act. They would ideally like to “collect” women whom they are equally attracted to. The behavior of the most powerful men in history attests to this. They want to collect women, but they definitely are not equally attracted to all of them. The behavior of the most power…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 02:22 PM
6	Modern Men Are Being Punished for a Past They Didn’t Create The men would die to protect their women from that. Those same exact men were the ones other women needed protection from. The man protecting you was at the very same time the evil raping horde or invaders for other women. The only reason women needed protection was because of the horrific violence of men. You do not get to virtue signal that “men” are grand noble protectors while ignoring who they were protecting women from. It was also men… usually men exactly like themselves; and they in turn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 12:42 PM
2	Modern Men Are Being Punished for a Past They Didn’t Create It was also gender specific: slave owners regularly raped their female slaves and used them as breeding stock to produce children they kept as slaves. African American descendants of slaves almost always have roughly 15-25% European ancestry for this specific reason. And don’t forget, later, white former slave owners lynched black men if they even so much as thought the man looked at a white woman. You cannot claim gender had nothing to do with how black folks were treated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 12:36 PM
3	Are you sure size doesn't matter? ” men are actually terrible" No. I don’t think men are terrible. You’re getting pissy that I’m pointing out that men are the same as women. "women would never do any of those horrible things men do". No. You are getting your pants all in a twist that I’m right to point out that men are just the same way women are. Why do you consider it such a deep insult to compare men to women and find them so deeply similar? Men and women both try to present their own sexualities as “better”. You want to pret…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 12:23 PM
2	Are you sure size doesn't matter? Sorry, I typoed— I was editing and didn’t switch that correctly. That should be top 20% of men. Loads of women are with men who are not “top 20%” men. Average women date average men all the time. Most men do in fact date. It’s not just the “top 20%” of men. So yeah, most women aren’t the hyper picky evil bitches this guy is trying to claim. But no, it’s not a contradiction. When men online say “I am attracted to 90% of women”… they are absolutely not considering below average women at all. There…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 12:14 PM
0	How do the conversations about women willing to do naughtier things with past partners come up? If she doesn't want to try it with you - you are plain noodles and cottage cheese. That’s really how you think about it, huh? If she won’t let you inflict pain, discomfort, or even abuse on her, you think that means you’re not just attractive enough. In order for you to feel desired, you need to inflict pain on her. Anything short of her crying and hating every time she fucks you means you won’t like it. Experimenting is only held against you if you did it with other men No. The lesson I’ve lear…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 12:07 PM
3	Is true that men marry the convenient women they CAN have, while spend their lives secretly obsessing over the women they truly desire but can't have? Putting words in other peoples' mouths is NOT a right way to do so. I didn’t put words in your mouth, I used a synonym. You specifically spoke about the women men choose as a wife. How is “someone a man will choose as a wife” not the same thing as “wife material”? You’re getting wildly offended over nothing. If you need to misquote me to make your point, then you don't have much of a point. More semantics rather than addressing the sentiment. Your exact quote is “ just because a man prefers a 9 …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 11:28 AM
3	Are you sure size doesn't matter? respectfully your projecting how women view men onto men themselves No, I’m observing what men say and and do. You cannot say old women are disgusting old hags, and fat women are nasty ham planets… and also claim you adore 90% of the women in general. this was true you won’t have groups of men being dictated to every kind of women possible, Rare extreme exceptions does not change the general rule and you know it. There are women who like short men too: if you won’t acknowledge them, why should I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 11:19 AM
1	Are you sure size doesn't matter? Yeah, men are the gender flexing not caring who they fuck and being eager to pump and dump them, like that’s some kind of virtue. One just has to go on men space on social media and they will casually admit that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 10:58 AM
1	Are you sure size doesn't matter? The majority of men find the majority of women attractive to some degree. That's a simple fact. No, it is not a fact. The majority of men find a majority of thin young healthy pretty women attractive. You simply do not register the majority of unattractive women as women at all. The majority of women in the US are old or fat or both… and then even some of the young thin ones are ugly beyond that. No, men don’t find most women attractive. They just say they do as a virtue signal that they are so …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 01:05 AM
3	Is true that men marry the convenient women they CAN have, while spend their lives secretly obsessing over the women they truly desire but can't have? I’m not sure where you are getting this from. I certainly didn't use the word "wife material" in my post. I agree you did not use that exact phrase. This is merely a common discussion point on this sub. It’s a simple connection to make: men settling for the boring wifey woman doesn’t mean he actually likes her or thinks she’s anything better than “barely above repulsive”. I will take your attempt to change the subject as a concession that you agree with everything in my post. Thanks. I agree wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 12:49 AM
8	Is true that men marry the convenient women they CAN have, while spend their lives secretly obsessing over the women they truly desire but can't have? Men will still do nice things for their wives and girlfriends and have sex with them even if they are more attracted to other women who they can’t attract. Women still do nice things for their husbands and boyfriends and have sex with them even if they are more attracted to other men who they cannot attract for a real relationship. And men explain that this is deeply, horribly cruel and they don’t want “duty sex”, they want “real genuine visceral attraction” and they want her to fuck him instant…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/26 11:28 PM
1	The ideal human society is 80% female and 20% male. videos celebrating dating are extremely rare, They exist, but they don’t generate clicks, and you definitely do not seek them out, lol. You only want to see the things that make you angry, so thats what you hunt for. You have no interest in seeing happy people that don’t feed your righteous hateful anger.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/26 11:14 PM
12	Are you sure size doesn't matter? Because women seem to think that admitting to superficial preferences makes women look bad It is pretty funny you say this in a sub where there are men frequently virtue signaling that they fine 90+% of all women attractive. Seems like most people don’t want to be seen as shallow.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/26 03:25 PM
4	Is true that men marry the convenient women they CAN have, while spend their lives secretly obsessing over the women they truly desire but can't have? To put it another way, just because a man prefers a 9 doesn't mean he finds a 6 repulsive Ah yes, I love it when men try to tell us the term “wife material” is a compliment, lol. It’s not. For a lot of men, “wife material” actually means: “look, I guess you’re not totally repulsive, and I can’t do any better, so I’ll settle for you as my boring backup plan.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/26 12:41 PM
12	Is true that men marry the convenient women they CAN have, while spend their lives secretly obsessing over the women they truly desire but can't have? They can be “kind of” attracted to their wives and still enjoy sex with them while lusting over more attractive women too. Men here constantly complain that they do not want a woman to be merely “kind of” attracted to him. Why do men claim being “kind of” maybe sort-of wanted as a last choice supposed is the ultimate prize for women, but is absolutely somehow not good enough for men. Men here regularly describe a wife being only “kind of” attracted to them as an insult, even: they say “husband m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/26 12:35 PM
1	The ideal human society is 80% female and 20% male. Tiktok, YouTube, reddit, Facebook, Twitter, etc. I've seen them everywhere. In your curated algorithm that’s feeding you the rage bait you interact with most. My algorithm gives me… knitting and embroidery patterns, science shows, videos of people trying foods for the first time, Whenever I have very occasionally had trash “I hate men” or “I hate women” slop shoveled at me, I ignore it or dismiss it, and it stops showing up in my feed. You are curating what you want to see. And for whatever baff…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/26 12:26 PM
-1	The idea that "most men on dating apps are trash and don't want commitment" is egregious inaccurate Ladies, nearly all of you have literally THOUSANDS of likes sitting in your queue within 2-3 weeks of downloading Hinge, Tinder, or Bumble. I can’t take this objection seriously. You talk about average men this and average men that… but then immediately start whining about significantly above average women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/26 01:11 AM
3	The ideal human society is 80% female and 20% male. Where do you think fathers don’t matter in actual practice? I could t name a single place on earth where kids with casual or absent slut fathers are doing as well as the kids with caring devoted monogamous fathers..	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/26 12:40 AM
1	The ideal human society is 80% female and 20% male. Women haven't exactly given me the idea that fathers are all that necessary. No not women. The small subset of women you curated by obsessing over them your psycho TikTok feed. I'm speaking on households with one man and multiple women. And historically, these were implemented by force and coercion and religious control and even child rape. They have not been founded through female choice. You just don’t give a shit about the abuse of women as long as you get to be the one to abuse them. You als…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/26 12:38 AM
5	How do the conversations about women willing to do naughtier things with past partners come up? I'm not saying experimenting should be held against women. It doesn’t matter— she is being punished for it either way. As a woman, it is apparently correct to avoid “experimenting” unless you already know 100% for sure that you will enjoy it. If there’s any doubt, don’t risk it. But can you not understand why specific situations like this would be frustrating for her boyfriend/husband? No, because I cannot imagine wanting to do something sexual to someone that they do not want to do. It is grote…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 09:51 PM
1	The ideal human society is 80% female and 20% male. meaning that roughly 46% of women would face potential single motherhood. This is actually really bad. Why do you think fathers don’t matter? Are you a misandrist? They could more easily put the man of the household in his place if need be What “man of the household”? You said the the women are mostly single fathers. I'd bet a lot more women would become open to sharing I’d bet not. The way polygamous marriages actually have occurred in the real world are in societies where women have no rights.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 02:25 PM
4	The ideal human society is 80% female and 20% male. I’m not a fan of a world of mostly single mothers where fathers don’t matter and don’t play a role either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 02:20 PM
3	The ideal human society is 80% female and 20% male. I find it hilarious how when a man says that he does not like people who engage in casual sex, he is labeled as a misogynist by nearly all women Quote me where I called men “misogynists” if they do not engage in casual sex themselves and also do not want to date someone who engages in casual sex? The usual problem I see around these parts are men who hypocritically shit all over women who have casual sex but are total sluts themselves. And no, for the record, I honestly don’t care if you want to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 02:19 PM
13	How do the conversations about women willing to do naughtier things with past partners come up? All the comments about this topic make one thing clear: If you are a woman and you are not 100% dead sure you will adore all anal all the time, do not ever fucking try it. Way too many men are complete titty-baby psychos about the subject and will whine endlessly and hate you with the fire of a thousand suns if you tried it once and don’t like it. Jesus. Like I didn’t want to do anal in the first place, but i thought of it as just a personal preference. This sub has taught me that I was cosmical…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 12:23 PM
2	The ideal human society is 80% female and 20% male. It’s usually what happens when there is a massive shortage of men. Sometimes men in power have engineered the system to kill off men just so they can have extra wives. Islam specifically supported polygamist marriages as a way to keep the excess women out of poverty… as fucking gross as that shit is. Massive gender imbalances seem to generate very pathological behaviors. Like yeah, im glad not all men want a harem. It seems really icky. But I’m also curious, what percentage of those 20% of men d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 12:02 PM
1	If women are the problem, why do you want them to birth and raise more kids? So are you willing to admit that tender years supporters I have no idea what you’re talking about. I’m not interested in jumping down this bonkers rabbit hole of you putting words in my mouth. I do not support the tender years doctrine… but something from the 1800s that’s been repealed for at least decades seems pretty… bonkers? Like ok, yeah I also don’t support the Dredd Scott decision. And that if the #1 threat of female murder comes from the boyfriends of pregnant women, we could try to abol…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 11:58 AM
1	The ideal human society is 80% female and 20% male. No, I would not be happy being a used up cum dumpster. Wtf. I cannot tell you how fucking gross it would be to invite a strange man over to fuck me and then wake up used and alone and ignored. I get that the idea of fucking random woman is probably your ideal, but being the target of that degeneracy is deeply unappealing to me. I was single myself for a very very long time. I never once had casual sex. I know I can survive it. But I am far happier with my husband.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 11:30 AM
1	The ideal human society is 80% female and 20% male. Women women are happy being single… but not 80%. And some men also prefer being single, or are gay. So it wouldn’t even be 20% of women who would have someone. And you’re totally delusional to think there’d be any monogamy, if men had that many options. We’ve already run a much much weaker version of your proposal— Russia after WWII had only 61 men per 100 women. Single motherhood became so common, it was legalized in 1944 and women were encouraged to become single mothers for the state. Men bou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 11:24 AM
4	The ideal human society is 80% female and 20% male. No thanks. I do not want to share a man. I like my husband. I absolutely do not want to jockey for position with a bunch of other clawing women to have a chance at seeing him maybe once a week. Fuck that gross harem shit. Harems are men’s fantasy, not women’s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 01:16 AM
22	How do the conversations about women willing to do naughtier things with past partners come up? Why do you think this is how it works? Did you used to enjoy experimenting with lots of exciting delicious new foods, but now you’re done experimenting and you only want plain noodles and cottage cheese? Usually, when people actually enjoy something, they want to keep doing it. So can you try using your imagination and think through some possible reasons why someone who experimented with something might never ever want to do it again? (Also seriously, I’ve discovered from these threads that expe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 01:08 AM
2	A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimum Freezing to death for the girl you love. That's romantic. It’s not romantic, it is terrible. Romantic is finding a way to be together and enjoying your lives together. There is nothing romantic about death. you do it because you're magnetically drawn to your other half A person being there and making you feel good because you are “magnetically drawn to them” is also a utility. You enjoy their behavior and performance that they provide. If the behavior you are magnetically drawn to is not how the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/26 08:22 PM
11	If women are the problem, why do you want them to birth and raise more kids? No fault divorce significantly lowered the rates of both domestic violence… and homicide. It has, yes, decreased the rate of husband homicide. 🤷‍♀️ but maybe you don’t care about men’s lives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/26 05:10 PM
1	Just pick someone else is silly. Ok. The point is generic, not about you personally. If you don’t like someone’s behavior, you are not forced to date them. Not outside of forced marriages— which I assume you are not talking about here. If you like a person, and they like you back , you can pick to date them. Or you can even pick not to date them for whatever reason (you’re too shy, you’re leaving town, you don’t wanna be tied down… whatever). You are free to choose. You are not being forced to date anyone. Not in my country, an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/26 03:07 PM
6	Just pick someone else is silly. I don’t “pick” people. You do. You choose who you approach, and you choose who you continue to see. Nobody is forcing you at gunpoint to date women you do not like. You yourself are choosing whether to date these women. No one else is picking the women you date for you. I have never had a relationship where I was the chooser I’d get literally snatched out of singledom by a woman who just happened to pick me up. They are not forcing you or raping you, presumably. If you do not like their behavior…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/26 02:18 PM
4	Just pick someone else is silly. I didn’t say you want a slave. I said you want someone who is attractive to conform their personality and behavior to your desires. For example, if your complaint is about women who expect you to pay for a date, you want a hot woman who usually expects men to pay to ditch that requirement just for you. That doesn’t sound like “slavery” to me; don’t be so hysterical. But sure, yeah, I was being snarky because the same complaints get posted frequently, but the question of “ok, what’s your proposal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/26 12:25 PM
28	Just pick someone else is silly. Their alternative, as always, is for the women they desire to simply conform to his wishes totally. Whenever he asks out a woman, she should instantly abandon her personality and values and preferences so she can be the perfect woman for him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/26 12:18 AM
2	A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimum How rare it is is irrelevant. It is very relevant considering you will likely choose a woman who isn't naturally like that and will simply be disappointed that she doesn't do this money dance for you. But likewise, why is it only possible to be compatible with someone who is exactly like you in every way, and anyone who is not every bit as masculine as you is just "using you" for your "utility"? Why do you automatically assume everyone more feminine than you is objectifying you and cynically usi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 06:19 PM
1	I am exhausted by the fake empathy and invalidation I sometimes experience Humans aren’t biological robots. And yet you treat women as if they are biological robots you can dole out to men to satisfy their desires and that should not ever act on their own desires of their own. You condemn female biology in service or male biology. I’m a human being who wants romance So do women. They want romance with someone they actually like and love. Not someone handed to them in a 1:1 “match everyone up because every man deserves a female” scheme. You still have not answered how y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 03:18 PM
1	I am exhausted by the fake empathy and invalidation I sometimes experience “It’s evolutionary horrifying” Says who? Says all females of every sexually reproducing species. Female reproductive evolutionary success depends critically on choosing a male who will father children who will survive and thrive and reproduce themselves. A female who chooses poorly will have no descendants. You do not care about what matters to females because it does not serve your desire. But for females of every sexually reproducing species, avoiding reproduction with the wrong males is just …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 01:23 PM
4	Feminists could do well, if they develop humility As for your complaint about women’s colleges, here’s an example for you: Florida State College for Women began admitting men in 1947. It’s now just called Florida State, though, so you didn’t realize.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 11:28 AM
1	Feminists could do well, if they develop humility Remind me which Disney prince who got the girl was a nice and polite, but otherwise ugly boring miserable wet blanket again?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 11:25 AM
1	I am exhausted by the fake empathy and invalidation I sometimes experience I said that the discrimination that structurally deprives young men ( since it’s mainly young men that struggle with finding a partner ) of the options to start a family and to get the romance they deserve for being a human being should be against the rules. There is a difference in that. This is you, once again, saying that female sexual preferences should be “against the rules” if it deprives men of their entitlement to a woman. since it’s mainly young men that struggle with finding a partner …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 11:23 AM
5	A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimum A lot want this, yes. But it is actually pretty strange you think wanting this: Men want Olivia Munn. Which seems sort of reasonable to me. We want someone who makes our dick hard, but is similar enough to us that we can relate to them. … is a moderately rare combo. Most women are generally feminine in personality and behavior, not masculine. Part of what was so relatable to so many women about the Gillian Fynn monologue was that most women aren’t “cool” like men want. It’s a really stressful di…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 11:12 AM
1	I am exhausted by the fake empathy and invalidation I sometimes experience But I didn’t say they should be forced in any way to do something. Making something illegal means using government enforcement to stop that thing happening. Making theft illegal means using police force to put thieves in prison when they steal. Making insider trading illegal means using police force to put someone in prison, or using police force to put them under house arrest, or using police force to enforce a fine when they do insider trading. You may have meant, in your head, that you only w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 10:55 AM
–	I am exhausted by the fake empathy and invalidation I sometimes experience I’m not saying women should be forced to have sex with certain men. You said it should be illegal for women to choose men based on any physical or genetic criteria, because it’s not fair for men to not get the woman he wants just because of some inborn trait he cannot control. But once again, that shouldn’t matter, because in that number, there’s also homosexual and asexual males. And also homosexual and asexual and sterile females. Again, a terrible injustice in your world that such women not h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/26 10:47 PM
–	I am exhausted by the fake empathy and invalidation I sometimes experience Where did i say that? You’re now putting words into my mouth. Genuine apology for saying you called me "paranoid": I thought you were the person who called me "paranoid", but it checking my inbox more closely, it was u/Muscletov. It was an honest mistake. But if you mean "where did I say it should be illegal for women to be allowed to have standards"? ... that's right here: Discriminating standards based on uncontrollable things should be illegal imo So yeah, you did say that women should be pun…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/26 09:48 PM
–	I am exhausted by the fake empathy and invalidation I sometimes experience How the hell do you compare those preferences? They are sexual preferences. That is how. And human’s can think rationally, so your point doesn’t make sense. We aren’t irrational robots. Women cannot force themselves to feel sexual attraction to they do not feel sexual attraction to in exactly the same way you cannot force yourself to feel sexual attraction to people you are not attracted to. Women can no more force themselves to desire every man equally than you can force yourself to desire ever…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/26 08:59 PM
–	I am exhausted by the fake empathy and invalidation I sometimes experience First off, not one of these things you’ve said is a rebuttal to anything I said. You are going off on a rant about fairness and restrictions you apparently want? Again, i remind you— I did not once accuse you of wanting to imprison women for refusing sex (? Like, seriously, where is this bizarre “women should all be legally required to be raped” shit coming from???) You called me paranoid for simply explaining how eliminating the “women are wonderful” effect would not actually force women to hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/26 08:54 PM
7	CMV: women find male sexuality disgusting Oh wow, that’s some real word 🥗	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/26 05:04 PM
10	A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimum but also act feminine. Men complain about their feminine partners because they choose them in the first place. Men complain about women acting feminine who they arent dating, too. And they have almost very little positive to say about feminine behavior. Many men mock things they don’t like as being “girly” and use womanhood itself as an insult. Sorry, but a whole lot of men seem to be, at best, very annoyed by femininity, and they definitely don’t have positive things to say about it. Like… what…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/26 04:48 PM
–	If you had to assign a %, how much would you say your attraction to a guy is who he is and how much of it is what he does for you? I honestly do not have a clue how I’m supposed to separate “who he is” from “what he does”. By what mechanism am I supposed to discern who he really is if not by observing how he behaves. Like… am I supposed to just stare longingly into his eyes and psychically know who he is in his own mind? And what if his actions don’t line up at all with who he thinks he really is? Like, he thinks he’s a great guy, but his actions and words are selfish, and belittling, and hurtful to others? What if he think…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/26 11:38 AM
–	I am exhausted by the fake empathy and invalidation I sometimes experience I never said anything about considering women's preferences evil or, hell, making them illegal Yes. I know you did not. I did not accuse you of saying that. I am explaining to you that “women are wonderful” is actually not responsible for the female preferences you dislike. Even if you switched all of society to think “women are crap”, it would not make women change into what you want them to be. And my evidence is that all of society deeply condemning certain standards of certain men *does not …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/26 10:56 AM
25	A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimum Men respect men with a lot of "masculine" traits and love women with a lot of "feminine" traits I disagree! A whole lot of men don’t actually seem to love when a woman has lots of feminine traits. These are women they complain about endlessly— she’s too emotional, I have to make all the decisions for her, she’s weak, she’s too sensitive, I would even be friends with her if it weren’t for the sex, she is illogical, her hobbies are stupid and boring (or aren’t even “real” hobbies at all), she can’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/26 10:41 AM
–	I am exhausted by the fake empathy and invalidation I sometimes experience Our western cultures have decided that women are the noble gender whose standards for men exclusively revolve around wholesome, Changing “Women are wonderful” to “women are crap” will not change natural female sexual desires, though. Let’s say society changed exactly the way you want it to, and society decides to view women’s standards as universally evil. What does this change for you? How would people hating women’s preferences change what women actually desire? For a very strong example, ther…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/26 10:28 AM
–	Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you over I know you didn’t. I’m not blaming you for anything here at all. It’s perfectly normal for shitty people to lie to normal decent people successfully. And I think you will actually have a happier life for not being a cynical jerk who assumes everyone is a liar to protect yourself… even if you do sometimes get lied to. My point is that, while you are correct that his lying will absolutely sabotage a relationship, and he’ll be less happy than you in the wrong term… he won’t see it that way his lyin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/26 04:39 PM
12	Women, what if the problem isn’t men, but the criteria you use to choose them? I chose great, don’t know what you’re talking about. It took me forever to find him, but I’m glad I waited for someone I genuinely liked instead of just settling for someone unattractive just because he was also good on paper. I also had zero experiences with assholes, abusers, and losers, and have found exactly one highly compatible man who is both exciting and entirely super reliable… who also married me. Sooo…. what did I do wrong? Why was I supposed to race to settle down with someone boring…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/26 11:28 AM
2	Men dating down I'm saying that going to the gym and having a skin care routine is easier than working a second job. It is easier. It is also totally ineffective at making a 50 year old woman look 20 again. Or even 30. Like, you might as well be telling me how easy it is to drink orange juice to cure cancer. Like yeah, sure, it is super easy to drink orange juice, but who cares? You still have cancer. And no, you have to keep advancing. This is absolute paranoid nonsense. I know tons of women who are sticking b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 08:41 PM
5	Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you over why do you assume that she had a problem with sleeping, or dating them? I didn’t assume she didn’t agree to date them at first? But according to what she said, they lied profusely, and she hated that and decided to break up with them after she found out. So it sounds like she might not have dated them if she had known they were lying sleazeballs from the start. We have no way of knowing the counterfactual for sure, of course. But the facts we do know are that their lying strategy worked and she …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 04:37 PM
2	Why do some of you push this pathetic idea that there are legions of sad sack men who will date practically any woman? I'm mid 40s, and I would frankly be flabbergasted to hear that a young woman found me attractive. All I really care about is my wife finding me attractive. That’s genuinely very sweet. I’m sure you’d still find it flattering, though, lol. Similarly, while I'm sure there are plenty of inexperienced, idiotic men who only see value in physical attractiveness, most men who've actually been in relationships understand that there's a lot more to consider. The men that most young attractive women will …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 12:16 PM
16	Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you over I think you’re missing the point that lying to you got those assholes what they wanted in the moment. They didn’t actually give a shit about being with you long term or having a happy relationship. . They wanted sex right now, and they got it. They will still feel pride that they tricked you and used you years later. They will continue to use the same cruel tricks on other women and discard them, and if it stops working, they’ll escalate to other tactics. They won’t change. They have no reason t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 12:01 PM
2	Why do some of you push this pathetic idea that there are legions of sad sack men who will date practically any woman? Do older women not want younger men to find them attractive? Generally they don’t care as much. It’s a flattering “nice to have”, whereas men are very insistent that young women must always consider them part of the dating pool. I'm not saying being part of 50% is special. Good. This is what I am trying to explain. Men still consider other factors once the physical attractiveness threshold has been achieved. Some do. Many others are quite clear that they do not actually care beyond looks. Still …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 10:50 AM
3	Men dating down Having to advance your career is much more difficult, however. lol, no, it is not more difficult to advance a career than it is to somehow reverse time. One is totally achievable, and the other breaks the laws of physics. And beyond that, most women do not expect “advancement”. They expect the man to not give up on life and turn into an all-day video game machine. Extremely achievable. Looks for men matter, but less so than for women. And even the amount that it matters for men infuriates men. Y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 10:46 AM
–	Why do some of you push this pathetic idea that there are legions of sad sack men who will date practically any woman? You're relying on a hackneyed stereotype of men. This isn't all your fault; a lot of men on PPD do claim they only find young women attractive. And you’re misrepresenting what I said. I did not say that all men are incapable of finding an older woman attractive— you made that claim up in your head so you could falsely accuse me of supporting a stereotype. I agree that not all men only find young women attractive. But I didn’t say anything like “all men only ever find young women attractive”. Wha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 10:19 AM
–	Why do some of you push this pathetic idea that there are legions of sad sack men who will date practically any woman? It’s called a debate, and your response is in bad faith. I am responding to the things you said that I disagree with. You’re free not to respond, but just whining that my disagreement means I must not have understood is a pretty cheap cop out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 10:06 AM
2	Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends? They are not important. They are (partially) responsible for an unfair situation These two statements are contradictory. If they are too small a group to be relevant, then they don’t matter for fairness either. If they valued my attention then we could say I am rewarding them. They don't. Serial killers gain no benefit from their fandom either. They are in prison and cannot fuck these women. Someone on death row gets nothing out of the fact that some dumb irrelevant psychos exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 09:31 AM
–	Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends? Serial killers have more women interested in them than a boring non criminal. Ah, and like clockwork, you are back to claiming this exceptionally tiny minority of women are actually super important and it doesn’t matter one tiny bit whether they are evil horrible women. The other day you insisted they didn’t matter at all and were totally irrelevant to the world. Yet today you insist that no matter how evil or abusive they are, men should choose them anyways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 01:38 AM
2	Why do some of you push this pathetic idea that there are legions of sad sack men who will date practically any woman? I meant 10 single men of a suitable age. Nonsense. Men always want beautiful young women to consider them, no matter how old and fat and ugly they are. So yes, you did exactly what I said you would— you artificially consider any unattractive women not to count. Age is the single most critical factor in men’s attraction to women, and you artificially cut out a majority of unattractive women so you could pretend male attraction is somehow more fair and even. Why would I be having a pity party? I d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 12:44 AM
1	Why do some of you push this pathetic idea that there are legions of sad sack men who will date practically any woman? The only difference is that women can get sex whenever they want. The reason it’s so hard for men to get is, again, because women do not want that trashy crap nearly as much as men do. You didn't understand what I said and chose to just get mad instead 🙄 cheap emotional shaming language. Typical. I explain why sex is hard for men to get (men want way way way more casual sex than women do) and you call it anger. Why? Why did you try to twist a very simple fact into an accusation that I’m somehow …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 12:28 AM
1	Men dating down He does if he is red pill. Always. The red pill rule is that men are always dating down, no matter what, because “hypergamy”. A woman can only ever be inferior to a man she dates. There are no exceptions ever within the red pill— all women are always inferior to the men they date. AWALT, hypergamy, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 12:22 AM
3	Men dating down I don’t hate men and I don’t disrespect most men. I do disrespect men who think I’m inferior, and I do disrespect men who make up fake words to put in my mouth and make false accusations about me. Not fucking every man in town is not a form of disrespect to any of them. Is it disrespect when you won’t fuck someone?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 12:18 AM
2	Why do some of you push this pathetic idea that there are legions of sad sack men who will date practically any woman? This would be the third time I said what you do with your own lady bits is fine A dishonest denial, since you also accused me of hating sex. You would not have made a personal negative accusation of me if you weren’t disapproving. This isn't about you personally, at all, what you do with your body is fine (fourth time) If it were actually fine with you, you would not have made a sweeping negative accusation of me, or made up an imaginary feelings and projected them at me. Not wanting casual sex …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 12:14 AM
3	Why do some of you push this pathetic idea that there are legions of sad sack men who will date practically any woman? I'd imagine casual sex is enjoyable for both parties. You both get you want and part ways. I’m not “framing” it anyways. It is DEEPLY undesirable to me to have fake intimacy with someone I don’t know. How can I possibly want a complete fucking stranger to be “intimate” with me? You wouldn’t share your credit card and social security number with someone you barely know, but you expect me to “enjoy” doing something far more vulnerable with someone. Why would I enjoy that with someone who does not …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 08:04 PM
6	Men dating down I don’t view men as inherently bad, nor would I ever consider someone I love to be “inferior”. I don’t view people the way you do. Don’t blame me for your own beliefs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 07:58 PM
4	Men dating down One of the top reasons for falling out love for women is the "lack of ambition" in her man. If he doesn't advance his career over time he's deemed worthless and is discarded. Some women. Others don’t care. If you only want gold diggers, fine, but lots of women stay in love even with ailing sick husbands who cannot have ambition. Many women love their husbands in dead end jobs. But even if your claim were true, that all women “fall out of love” if a man doesn’t advance his career… it’s still not …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 06:35 PM
3	Why do some of you push this pathetic idea that there are legions of sad sack men who will date practically any woman? Sounds like you just don't enjoy sex in general, I enjoy sex very much with the man I love. I do not have any reason to enjoy sex with the general population. But nice of you to try to tell me I’m somehow defective for not wanting to whore myself out to men who don’t care about me. And I bet you do not like women who have sex with men “in general” anyways, so totally empty attempt at shaming me for not wanting to be disposable. but in no way comparable to the experience of crushing loneliness an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 06:29 PM
3	Why do some of you push this pathetic idea that there are legions of sad sack men who will date practically any woman? The "someone she's attracted to" is already ruling out a huge proportion of men, though. Men rule out a huge proportion of women too. And it really doesn’t matter if she doesn’t get all men— that’s the way men think when they want to fuck 100 women. For a woman looking for a monogamous relationship, all she needs is one man who is attractive who also wants her back. Your insistence that it is unreasonable for a woman to want what you demand as a bare minimum is… certainly interesting. If you see…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 06:12 PM
1	Men dating down So why is dating a woman who is more peaceful, more loyal, and more chaste considered “dating down”? Why is this woman considered inferior to her partner automatically? She has good qualities, but you don’t respect her or and consider her lesser in spite of (or because of?) those qualities? All I ever see is that “hypergamy” is a way for red pill men to tell themselves they are very very special by shitting on their girlfriends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 04:58 PM
4	Men dating down Over time, they'll consider popular/hot girls as a certain type that's unrelatable. This calcifies and eventually, they stop consider her, and women like her, as attractive. Yay. Normal women get to be boring Becky beta last-choice. but there's also the matter of men wanting adoration, and if you date a woman who cannot do even half the things you can, if she's wow'ed by that, they're feeling it. Yes I agree this is a thing with some men. It is likely the origin in their belief in “hypergamy”. I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 04:47 PM
4	Men dating down All I see here is men admitting they genuinely cannot value a woman they marry. Dudes here are admitting openly they think she’s beneath him from the very start, and only becomes worse and worse over time. There is no value in being married to someone who thinks you’re nothing but depreciating trash.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 04:46 PM
1	women choosing terrible men/ choices with full information is one of the oldest documented patterns in human history. simply that there is a document describing those events, and that reality is unrelated to if you believe it or occurred or not. Yes, I agree that there is a document written by men blaming all their complaints about life on a woman. The thing it proves is that there have always been men who hate and blame women for their own bad choices. They have always been with us. Those idiots have founded religions preaching that women are all bad and are never worthy of respect or appreciation. The fact th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 04:33 PM
4	Why do some of you push this pathetic idea that there are legions of sad sack men who will date practically any woman? of casual sexual encounters and flings I cannot image how shitty I would feel with casual sex and flings. I’d hate myself and feel far more lonely than I did not being used and discarded. Just because you glorify the experience of being fucked and thrown away doesn’t mean it’s something desirable to everyone. It sounds like torture to me to have something so fake.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 02:01 PM
3	Why do some of you push this pathetic idea that there are legions of sad sack men who will date practically any woman? If someone refuses to settle for anyone but the ideal The comment you are responding to didn’t describe some impossible ideal, though. Thats a strawman. Most women want what she described: someone they are attracted to who shares similar values and works with the kind of life they want to live. That is what most men want as well, and they totally ignore any women who do not conform. Men are much happier to settle, Are they? Men here state regularly and emphatically that they do not want to be se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 01:58 PM
5	Why do some of you push this pathetic idea that there are legions of sad sack men who will date practically any woman? Think about who the average straight single man is hugging Depends on the culture. Men in sports bear hug and slap each other’s asses and chest butt and high five and arm hug and shoulder hug and even pick each other up. Men in some countries kiss each other on the cheek.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 11:57 AM
3	Women don't suffer from loneliness He's also talking about the loneliness that comes from having zero romantic options, and this is something most women on this sub can't relate to. And women who can relate have learned that, if they share their honest experience, they will be attacked viciously. I have shared my experience being unwanted multiple times here. And every time, I have been accused of being a liar, til I must be so ugly I don’t deserve love, and been told I’m actually just a worthless slut for Chad. You guys want for…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 11:49 AM
4	Women don't suffer from loneliness Aren’t you also a foreigner in a country where you don’t speak the local language well? If I’m remembering right, that plays a substantial role in your struggles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 11:01 AM
5	Antiporn is usually motivated by misandry I do think things have changed a lot over the past decade for the better. I have also had a ton of fun playing with men who are totally fun to play with. And I’ve even had a few fun interactions with total strangers online streaming. The attitude that every game has to have gruff gritty grimdark refrigerator dudes hulking around behind chest-high walls and all women in the game have to be helpless big ol’ titties bouncing around… or else it’s attack on men and masculinity is just deeply ridiculo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 03:43 PM
2	Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever? Ok, I can change it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 01:43 PM
4	Women have it harder in dating. I don’t think I agree overall, but really… I just don’t think it’s meaningful or helpful at all to agglomerate everyone’s experiences to “men have it harder than women” or “women have it harder than men”. It varies so much for the individual that it’s meaningless. And can be hurtful. (I certainly always found it hurtful as a woman who was unwanted to hear the endless chants that any woman who doesn’t have a thousand suitors is a worthless sack of shit). But that aside, I do think you have one po…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 12:42 PM
12	Antiporn is usually motivated by misandry Every knitting circle I’ve ever been to was extraordinarily friendly and very openly welcoming to men. And videogaming is not an inherently social activity— you already have porn for your porn needs. Why do you need to say “no girls allowed” and for you to be able to enjoy this hobby? Do you think the quality of games improves when they spend all their dev effort on jiggle physics instead of actual gameplay mechanics? I always loved video games. What I didn’t like was that people like you always…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 12:30 PM
15	Antiporn is usually motivated by misandry I’m pretty sure it’s mostly anti-sex, not specifically about men. But there’s also legitimate criticisms. I’m not a hardliner anti-porn person, but I would strongly support * good protections for actors * the systematic destruction of all porn what was abusive to the participants (as an incentive to only produce ethical porn)… * obviously, the complete extermination of all child porn, and the incarceration of any adult participating in its manufacture or distribution * effective restriction and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 12:15 PM
3	Women couldn’t even begin to understand what real loneliness is You become invisible to men and women… Family starts to die. Siblings move away. Friends lose contact. You are alone with your cats, hearing the clock tick on the wall… This isn't bliss. It's a nightmare and many women live it So you admit women can be lonely. But you’re here trying to attack people arguing against OP instead of arguing against OP yourself. Just jumping at any chance to tell women they should lie down and force themselves to spread their legs for anyone who asks, hmm? Oh right, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 11:28 AM
–	Chivalry is a submissive act. Calling me “darling” and throwing a clown face at me is fake-familiar, deliberately insulting, and obviously rude. Lol, if you were actually chivalrous you would know this is asshole behavior. You’re being rude exactly because it was never about politeness or kindness for you. I didn’t insult you or throw any stones. You are imagining things to paint yourself as the victim and justify your pettiness. All because you’re upset that not all men are actually nice when they are playing chivalry. I wa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 06:47 AM
2	Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever? I do not see how it is personal to assume that someone cannot date supermodels? It’s the most generic possible guess about anyone on Reddit that they’re a normal person, not a superstar.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 01:40 AM
16	Most of women's dating issues are due to the fact that they are all chasing the same top 5% of men. Change my mind. Probably the fact that there’s at least 3 times more men on the apps than women. And it’s likely worse than that— 3X was the number Tinder was wiling to admit to years ago. They have since stopped publishing any kind of number about the rotten reality of just how many men are all vying for a vastly smaller number of women. But for an idea of how bad it can get, analysis of the data leak from Ashley Madison (the cheaters dating app) revealed that fewer than 0.2% of their active female accounts we…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 12:51 AM
10	Most of women's dating issues are due to the fact that they are all chasing the same top 5% of men. Change my mind. I didn’t chase any 5% or 10% men. My mistake and failure in dating was being both plain and passive. I listened to my elders and parents who taught me to just be patient and a man would totally ask me out, because I was a lovely young woman. Total nonsense. Men had no interest in me. No I wasn’t ignoring them. They just had no interest in me. They asked out other girls. Prettier girls who flirted better. Yes, the average nerdy men around me did not want me either. I was an unwanted dud. That was…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 12:46 AM
–	Chivalry is a submissive act. I didn’t imagine anything. I certainly didn’t imagine you using the word “idiot” to describe women you don’t like. And yes, I’m also not imagining that you are trying to snidely call me a miserable delusional idiot with your condescending little “you must have a great time”. You are showing your real colors here with your insults and unkind words.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 12:40 AM
2	It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcohol WTF is up with this made up nonsense attack??? I did NOT say anything like that. I absolutely emphaticallly did NOT say anything like those dismissive shitty words you put in my mouth. I fucking did not ever once claim in any way that male rape victims are not “real victims”. You are being deeply dishonest and outright manipulative with that “isn’t it interesting” bullshit. What actually happened here is that you asked a goddamned question: you asked “ Yeah, but why is it only focused on drunk w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/26 09:12 PM
1	It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcohol Partly because most men can substantially out drink most women. If a man and a woman are drinking at the same rate, he can be only a bit tipsy and uninhibited, while she is more likely to be completely beyond incoherent. It is not even just the difference in body mass. Men process alcohol more efficiently than women, even pound for pound. That doesn’t mean men cannot be raped while drunk. They are sometimes and it is also very bad. But it does mean that that the margin of error for “drank too mu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/26 03:51 PM
2	Chivalry is a submissive act. Such gibberish. No, literal actual things that have happened to me in real life. You just don’t like hearing anything that disrupt your “all men are always wonderful and women need to bat their eyes over every little thing a man does or else they’re idiots” worldview. I have never seen any man react negatively in this situation lol, you yourself are literally describing your own personal discontent anytime a woman doesn’t respond to your chivalry the exact way you want her to. You are the one wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/26 01:58 PM
4	Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever? Is it really a personal insult to claim that most normal people cannot date 10/10 hotties? I can’t date hot models either. It’s not an insult, it’s normal reality for normal average looking people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/26 01:47 PM
–	Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever? Why the hell do I see so many thinkpieces on social media … Because you keep clicking it and engaging with it. The algorithm loves to give you the very ragebait you crave the most. FacebookInstagramTikTok have zero reason to give you a fair and balanced representation of reality. Their goal is to keep you doomscrolling forever. affirmative action favoring white women Affirmative action is illegal in the US. 2003 Stufents for fair admission v. Harvard. Usually very few hobbies, superiority comple…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/26 11:07 AM
2	Chivalry is a submissive act. My experience is the exact opposite yeah, duh, you are not a woman. The only way you ever experience any version of "chivalry" is what you yourself dish out, and you think you're the hero no matter what you do. Fact is, sometimes being on the receiving end is annoying as fuck. Not always, but sometimes. Sometimes it's just annoying to have to walk faster and apologize for wasting the guy's time because he decided to open the door for you a mile too early. But no matter what he does, you will be …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/26 12:26 AM
6	What would a red-pill man do if he was magically turned into a biological female? Well, I know for sure that "Erica" would absolutely not follow any of the red pill crap advice she totally believed in her heart that women should follow before being forcibly converted, lol!	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 07:02 PM
3	If feminism and patriarchy didn’t exist, but you had to choose between marrying the love of your life and being a homebody all day and having no friends, or being a career women yet never meeting the love of your life or getting in any serious relationship, which would you choose? Probably not. There's a reason so many men who want "submissive" girlfriends are mad they can't find one-- a lot of people, male and female, don't want to do it full time. Being submissive is a lot more demanding, and a lot more thankless, that you are imagining.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 06:58 PM
12	Women are the real selfish gender and should be properly socialized Once you realize women do it due to social expectation, self gain or just to feel good about themselves you realize they're being selfish. Ok, so we have determined that the thing you care most about is people’s internal feelings that you cannot actually observe. I personally care a lot more about actual observables with real world consequences. If someone actually does real genuine good for others in the world, their internal feelings does not change the good they did one bit. Someone you consi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 03:17 PM
-3	The "patriarchy" didn't teach men to hide their feelings. Life did. The fight against patriarchal norms is more social, so there’s no solid tangible goal to push towards. There’s no law to pass here. There was no law to pass that made it socially acceptable for women to wear pants or go out in public without a male chaperone either. Social changes were part of the feminist revolution too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 01:00 PM
5	Men will accidentally push anti-male propaganda LITERALLY THE SAME MEN then argue that society should care about male loneliness because lonely men may become unstable, angry, violent, radicalized, etc. If they really believed women and relationships were so amazing at preventing violence and anarchy, and were such a critical part of building a society, they’d show more appreciation for it. Instead they just spend all their time shitting on women and calling women weak stupid animals. Obviously they don’t actually believe women are an importa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 11:44 AM
2	Men will accidentally push anti-male propaganda That's why you can donate organs. Actually, no, still not the same. You can legally sell any of your private property, but you cannot legally sell your organs on any market for any price. It is donation only, with no financial compensation. So they are still not the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 11:39 AM
1	Chivalry is a submissive act. Why is it always men who are the most upset when women don’t require men to these empty gestures? I actually had a man get genuinely mad at me when I opened the door for him.was one of those vestibules with two doors in a row: he held the first door then I held the second… and he was legit upset I’d ’treated him like a woman’. In another case, I’ve had a man I know rip a suitcase out of my hand so he could stow it… and then tried to call me crazy when I objected to his “polite” gesture of yankin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 10:54 AM
2	If feminism and patriarchy didn’t exist, but you had to choose between marrying the love of your life and being a homebody all day and having no friends, or being a career women yet never meeting the love of your life or getting in any serious relationship, which would you choose? Considering in one answer, OP also expected the married friendless woman to be highly submissive… I suspect a lot of men would have very strong objections to that unstated part.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 10:42 AM
3	If feminism and patriarchy didn’t exist, but you had to choose between marrying the love of your life and being a homebody all day and having no friends, or being a career women yet never meeting the love of your life or getting in any serious relationship, which would you choose? society could fall apart. If society falls apart, it’s infinitely better to have a community of friends with a variety of skills, than. It is to have one lone man. Your husband cannot fight off a gang of violent men alone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 10:40 AM
2	If feminism and patriarchy didn’t exist, but you had to choose between marrying the love of your life and being a homebody all day and having no friends, or being a career women yet never meeting the love of your life or getting in any serious relationship, which would you choose? Because he wants to be the center of the universe, and wants a woman whose sole purpose in life is to serve his desires and goals. That’s why he’s being so hostile to every woman who doesn’t answer the way he wants: he feels like they are denying him the chance to have a captive obsessed with no desires or goals in life other than to serve him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 10:35 AM
1	If feminism and patriarchy didn’t exist, but you had to choose between marrying the love of your life and being a homebody all day and having no friends, or being a career women yet never meeting the love of your life or getting in any serious relationship, which would you choose? She is communicating very directly with you, and you are trying to call her a bitch. She’s not being rude and you’re calling her a bitch. Obviously it upsets you quite deeply.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 10:22 AM
–	Q4w: who fucks better? OP’s mom. The answer is OP’s mom. I cannot believe you set up such an obvious roast question here 🤣	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 07:43 PM
–	Men dating younger women may be the only option left. And yet the peak strongest men of all time are younger than that. Hmmm. Holds in most other strength or speed dominant sports also. The current world record 100m sprint was set by Usain Bolt at 22. Again, not 40. Most actual male athletes’ are not peaking in their mid 30s. It is fairly uncommon even in sports where experience lends athletes an edge for men to still be competitive at the top levels in their 30s. Tom Brady, Roger Federer, etc are exceptions to the rule… and in a similar exception,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 07:32 PM
2	Why should women care that men don't have partners? Telling me about “most of us”, whoever that is supposed to be, is really a very non-specific complaint. If you have an argument, make the actual specific argument instead of just blanket accusing an unnamed miasma for something unstated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 07:31 PM
2	Men dating younger women may be the only option left. male muscular strength and build peaks around mid 30's. No. And you can tell this by looking at the beat of the best. It is extremely exceptional for men in any sports to be the best in their 30s, and that is usually only in sports where non-strength skills are critical to high-level performance. For pure strength, male peak appears to occur in your mid-20s. For example, the current world record holder in Olympic weight lifting, Laksha Talakhadze, was 22 when he set his first WR. Not 35. He set …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 05:44 PM
1	Why should women care that men don't have partners? Yeah, I agree. It sometimes feels like arguing with an alien since his mental framework is so different. But I agree, debating him is usually a debate with actual points made, and evidence, and logic involved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 01:49 PM
3	Why should women care that men don't have partners? That is also fair. I should have mentioned that as well. And sorry for the call out, but for anyone growing up in gun country (‘Murica’!), your guess on how hard it is physically for a woman to use a gun is just, well, sorry, legitimately funny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 01:46 PM
2	Why should women care that men don't have partners? Well, read his flair. I think it explains a a whole lot of why his takes are disturbing to read. But I will be fair to him: as bonkers as some of his takes are, his moral system does include consent and I think he does genuinely oppose rape. His argument usually seems to be more “well, yes, all that’s bad and I don’t support it, but it is a reality that men will use violence if they don’t get the sex they want. You have to figure out a way to make them happy or else they will hurt you, so what i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 12:45 PM
–	Why should women care that men don't have partners? Nothing is more dangerous than a large group of men with nothing to live for and a ton of testosterone to burn. And yet when women have thrown themselves on the fire to appease these men and produce civilization itself… they get no credit for that self-sacrifice whatsoever. Your proposal is actually that women should submit themselves to violent dangerous men who are willing to blow up society… so that other men don’t have to deal with those shitheads. You do not care what happens to the women s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 12:29 PM
6	Why should women care that men don't have partners? And it’s not because women can’t or don’t have access to guns. Already had this discussion with him. He believes the only reason women don’t use guns as much as men is because women are physically weaker, so they aren’t as capable as men of pulling a trigger. So, that’s the baseline you gotta deal with here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 12:11 PM
3	Hypergamy is serious topic that woke and bluepilled people uncomfortable and they are unwilling to take seriously, analyze, and discuss the issue. You're not wrong, but what even is "up" as in dating up? Not gonna lie, I think you’re the first red pill man on this sub I’ve seen actually question the validity of the theory. The usual view seems to be that anything a woman is attracted to in a man proves he is “better” than her… but for some reason the things he is attracted to don’t count as any kind of value. And in reality, you’re exactly right. It doesn’t make any sense to use terms like “up”— dating is a market. If you find someone you …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 11:55 AM
18	Hypergamy is serious topic that woke and bluepilled people uncomfortable and they are unwilling to take seriously, analyze, and discuss the issue. I am a woman and have discussed hypergamy at length here on many occasions. I am not blue pilled or woke, but I do not take the red pill beliefs about hypergamy seriously at all because, after having numerous discussions… I have seen repeatedly that it’s nothing but pseudoscientific claptrap. The biggest failure of the hypergamy belief system is that there is literally no kind of proof that you would ever accept that could disprove your beliefs. No matter who any woman dates, you’ll always find …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 11:08 AM
2	Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands? I believe you can make those limits clear and explicit in the agreement. One per week is very explicitly clear. When you are at a store and they have a ticket machine that says “take one”, it is explicitly clear that they do not mean “take as many as you like”. I believe women don't assume duties towards their partners. Not as a general rule. By your definition, neither do men. Everyone has conditions for their continued behavior. Did she took that duty or not? If yes, yes. If you believe a duty…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 04:48 PM
2	Would you change your views and behaviour? It is not a good idea to do something self-destructive in an attempt you try to maybe temporarily (and maybe not) save someone else. You asking me if I would be willing to reluctantly spread my legs to satisfy men I don’t want to have sec with is like asking if I’d be willing to cut off my arms and legs to save them. I will not enact self harm on the very very stupid off chance that my pussy has magic medicine that can cure their mental illness. No. There are better ways to support someone than …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 04:38 PM
2	Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands? Not always. Yes always. You didn’t really address the point I brought here. What specific duty do you believe a woman should owe a man if she murders her children? Do you believe she should still be required to fuck him on a schedule after she watched her kid die by his hand? What duties would you continue to perform for a woman who tried to kill you? For sure exceptions do exist but they are not numerous enough to be considered as relevant. You bring up serial-killer chasers every chance you ge…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 03:23 PM
8	Does slut-shaming prevent women from having more active sex lives? I didn’t say most men are trying to commit murder. I said it is very challenging to commit murder and get away with it. Wanting to be desired and have sexual access to women, is much more universal. Wanting to be desired and to have sexual access to women is not universal. It is universal to straight men. Women wanting to be desired and to have sexual access to men is equally universal… yet this is condemned as “degenerate”. So no, you don’t get to pretend that there is some kind of psuedologic …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 03:19 PM
17	Does slut-shaming prevent women from having more active sex lives? Being able to get laid as a man is significantly harder than it is for a woman. That doesn’t explain why it’s admired by so many men. Getting away with murder is hard to, but considered degenerate. If society believes that promiscuous women are “degenerate”, why then is it not degenerate for a man to seek them out constantly? Why is it not considered degenerate for a man to try his very hardest to turn as many women into “degenerates” as possible? It’s because men are the ones defining this— you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 11:16 AM
2	Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands? This was unadressed by the way. I did. The contract has fixed agreement. A contract is not “once per week actually means any number I want except for one”. That is sufficient to explain. But I’ll explain further. You are actually prevented from paying more than is asked— because it is a breach of contract, it can be enforced. Yes, they can theoretically volunteer to pay more… and if there is any reason to investigate anything, the authorities will suspect that payment as evidence of coercion or …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 11:07 AM
2	Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands? Which duties towards their partners do women take upon themselves. Remember, duty means it is not optional. All things are optional in a marriage according to the government, your personal contractual little pledges included. Nobody is gonna round you up in put you in a camp if you don’t buy your girlfriend everything you promised her. But if by “not optional”, you mean people who actually totally fulfilled their pledges, there are tons. For the women who stay with their husbands “till death do …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 02:46 AM
2	Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands? The first one, the law does not recognize those agreements made by two fully informed consenting adults. It also does not recognize all sorts of other agreements between two private parties acting in private. If you and another consenting person set up a free-use Dom/sub master slave agreement in private, you are totally free to do that. The government will not enforce any part of that agreement, but you have the freedom to do it. Your problem is that you want the government to stand beside your…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 12:21 AM
2	Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc? Nothing better than seeing a red pill guy admit his worldview is that he really wishes there were less consent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 12:14 AM
-1	What do you think about young men feeling abandoned and demonised by left? Their behavior and words should be shamed sure. But using language that suggests simply being male (a “bro”) is part of the problem doesn’t really help. For this one I don’t really have a better term to offer off the top of my head, and they’ve apparently adopted it themselves. But it would be good if we could come up with a way to criticize them without shaming them for being men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 12:11 AM
4	What do you think about young men feeling abandoned and demonised by left? I know a lot of Bernie fans also called them selves Bernie bros, but it was also thrown around hy critics trying to imply that Bernie supporters were all just aggressive sexist angry white men. According to wikipedia, the term was coined by an Atlantic article as a pejorative to describe Bernie’s young white male supporters. Some of the criticisms of specific behaviors or actions were valid— there were some Bernie supporters who were using sexist attacks on Clinton, and Bernie himself spoke out …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 12:08 AM
33	What do you think about young men feeling abandoned and demonised by left? but I guess I've just never heard any concrete examples, I just heard of one specific one that’s a good example: the use on the Left of the word “bro” to dismiss membership by men (white men in particular) as bad. “Bernie bros”, “tech bros”, “podcast bros”, “passport bros”. Like… seems kinda sneering and dismissive of men. The term “bro” is meant to conjure up the idea of an obnoxious, inconsiderate frat boy… and the term “bro” is added to other things to dismiss them as not good. It feels a lot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 08:45 PM
1	Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc? Not something you can prove. Only pure speculation. These are literally women who are having multiple babies with rotten trash men… it’s evident that they have terrible decision making skills, lol. They are choosing men who have multiple baby-mommas and abandon all their kids, but you think these women are all smart planners? Dude, no. You’re talking about trashy women and you’re sad they don’t also let you be baby daddy #5. First of all, you say "only" like a third of women isn't a large amount…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 06:10 PM
1	Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands? It is an agreement between private parties. Already allowed, so you have no complaint. You already can do this with anyone willing to make this agreement. People can make their own information agreements privately if they want to. And just like any other agreement like that, there’s no enforcement and nobody actually gets punished for breaking it, or for demanding more than the agreement already included. If no woman wants to make this agreement with someone, it is not evidence that no women ali…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 05:59 PM
-1	Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc? When did I make that argument? You’re continuing to argue that right here: when criminals have more sexual and reproductive success than the average man whose never been convicted of any crimes. With repeat offenders having the highest fertility rates. Where's all the evidence that women don't want men like this or are actively avoiding men like this? Those criminal men have high sexual success with women who are just like them! Your evidence that women, collectively, overall, on average, prefer…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 02:18 PM
0	Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc? Those men are having those 20-30% more babies with a small subset of women who are also having way way more babies than average. Why do you extrapolate that all women want criminals from the fact that a small subset of women have 8 different baby daddies and 10 kids? And often are on drugs or criminals themselves? Perhaps those are the women red pillers most want to have as their wives— they’re willing to have the most babies with zero thought, after all, so that’s “winning” to red pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 11:33 AM
2	Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc? that doesn't mean all women would bang or marry psychopats, i mean, some do but not all. Yes, I know this is true. I am stating the red pill belief that women are inherently despicable by nature, not that they do not have free will to choose not to. But red pill also tells you that anytime she is fucking anyone other than a psychopath, she’s settling and doesn’t really like him at all. She’s just extracting resources from him. Remember, no matter what a woman does, according to red pill, she’s a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 11:28 AM
–	Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands? Then define the duty in a way that excludes medical issues. I am not a genius and I can think of that. And how would that be monitored and enforced? Does the government decide who was too sick? What about exhaustion? Does that count as a medical issue or not? What about just medically unexplained pain? Your simple solution is an empty dismissal you didn’t think about at all. It is one example of something that could prevent your mandatory sex. Another is travel for work. Your rule is nobody ever…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 11:14 AM
–	Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands? If I can't always fulfill my duty then I should not have taken that duty upon myself. Since nobody can promise honestly they can fulfill that duty (and never be sick or have a medical issue), it is nonsensical to build any marriages around it. I said hat women have a problem with having a duty towards their partners. Yes, you beleive that because you beleive sexual servitude is the only possible duty a woman could ever fulfill. Women fulfill many duties to their partners. They do not, however, h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 08:12 PM
2	Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc? AWALT doesn't have much of anything to do with instincts. I explained what I did because I find it interesting, even though it's not much related to the topic of AWALT. I can accept that is how you see it, but I disagree that lots of other RP dudes don’t think female biology isn’t AWALT. AWALT is often used in explaining hypergamy, for example. And even if you didn’t use the term AWALT… your explanation is very much that all women are indeed the same inherently. It's a lot less likely to blow up…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 08:04 PM
–	Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands? Yes, this would apply to the husbands too. Please answer a little more directly. You would agree that men should be punished for not being able to maintain an erection or for being sick for a week? A dead-bedroom is akin to a jail sentence. Not having sex for 7 days due to the flu or childbirth is not a damned dead bedroom. Don’t be so dramatic. and then to refuse your partner There is a big fat difference between expecting someone to generally be willing to have sex most of the time but also un…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 07:57 PM
–	Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands? You cannot always fulfill that duty, even if you intend to. You’d be punished for failing to get an erection or just for being sick or having a medical problem. You can stop whining that women don’t have to sign up to be rape slaves already.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 07:53 PM
2	Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands? Would you sign up to be punished if you can’t give your wife an orgasm every week? Ridiculous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 04:38 PM
2	Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands? So what’s the punishment to the husband if he can’t fulfill his end of the “sex every week” bargain? Would you sign up for marriage if one week where you can’t get an erection would bring legal punishment? Or would it be even stricter— you have to give her an orgasm every week or else the government steps in? Why do you not see how completely ridiculous and inflexible your idea is?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 04:35 PM
2	Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands? Oh, I really really really dont.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 04:30 PM
2	Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands? Sure you might say that those policies are gender neutral I have an IRL female friend paying a boatload of alimony to her ex husband.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 04:18 PM
3	Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc? Still misunderstanding AWALT, I don’t see how it’s a misunderstanding. You just re-explained to me what I said. You just explained that women have natural biological evolved instincts and that sexual attraction is hardwired in all women in the same way… and that women are naturally attracted to criminals. The fact that a limited selection of women are able to act differently than the natural tendencies you assert women have doesn’t change the AWALT belief. I also did not claim that red pill says…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 04:01 PM
2	Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even close Replying to your comments directed at me personally is not harassment. You initiated this conversation between us and have continued to pursue replies from me— I did not come after you. At all. You have pursued this conversation for many rounds of your own free will. I am not chasing you down or targeting you unfairly. But I will take this last comment as your announcement that you intend to disengage. Do not reply to me trying to be smug or taking the last word or calling me any other sneering …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 03:10 PM
2	Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even close There is no reason for you to call me “darling” except to be sour. Addressing someone in a mocking tone like that suggests you are upset. Nobody is stopping you from taking a break to calm down.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 02:46 PM
0	Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc? The claim is that all women have the same inherent biological software and hardware. So are they all naturally sexually attracted to criminals or not?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 02:43 PM
-5	Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc? So again, it is red pill “AWALT” that does actually say that all women will systematically avoid mating with decent men at any cost. Thank you for showing exactly what I mean about red pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 11:59 AM
3	Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even close So you don’t understand context or how a back and forth works, and don’t want to learn how that works. You were just randomly dropping your feelings that agree with OP in the comments randomly and it had nothing to do with the topic of the debate I was posting. Glad you admit it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 11:57 AM
1	Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc? The claim goes way beyond that though. RP doesn’t just believe that those traits aren’t sexually attractive on their own. It believes that the exact opposite traits are the most sexually attractive to women. It is regularly argued by red pill that women only want “bad boys”, that all of them prefer immoral, criminal men, as well as men who are slutty and “only as loyal as his options”. “AWALT”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 10:51 AM
3	Why is women's popular music so much more sexual than mens? You added the edit later in because you wanted to ignore the vast majority of actually popular music so you could hyperfocus on WAP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 12:40 AM
2	Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even close No, it wasn't lol. He said female self help stuff is terrible as half of his thesis. And then you popped up to also say female self help stuff is terrible. Thats supporting his position without challenging anything. Your comment was only meant to challenge my comment, which you felt needed to be challenged.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 12:37 AM
2	Men are right to believe their prime is later than women Yeah I agree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 12:35 AM
2	Why is women's popular music so much more sexual than mens? Gen Z loves classic rock for its authenticity, story telling, and musical exploration. A lot of it lacks the “rule by committee” fake corporate approval your musical preferences lean towards. You answered my question. I answered your question: men have beeen making extremely sexual pop music for a long time. No, not rap music. The genre you claim is for white men only. I said nothing about rap music— you’re just being gross. Remember kid, it’s “sex, drugs, and rock n roll”, not “stuck-up prudes,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 12:35 AM
2	Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even close No I was not supporting OP and my comment was nested Your statement is in direct agreement with half of his claim. There are no rules that say my comment shouldn't have been made in this sub. I did not say there are rules against your comment. I said that there are rules in this sub against posting a comment that does not challenge the OP view as a base-level comment. Your comment was not illegal, and I didn’t claim it was. What I said was that the context of the conversation so far affects the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 09:13 PM
2	Men are right to believe their prime is later than women Who do you think is picking these 40 year old men as “sexiest man alive” if not the people trying to appeal to 40-60 year old women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 09:08 PM
2	Men are right to believe their prime is later than women Quick search says his peak popularity was 1942-1944… when he was 26-28. Not 48.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 09:07 PM
1	Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even close “No, why don’t you tell me all the rules” is a bit of an overreaction. It’s a petulant, childish overreaction to me explaining something pretty trivial. But fine, in a debate forum, if OP says “X is constructive, whereas Y is just destructive”, and then someone (say, Bob) contradicts the initial claim with “actually, X is not constructive, it is destructive”…. Replying to Bob with “Y is destructive” is just supporting OP’s original statement. It’s not really a counterpoint to the point Bob broug…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 03:49 PM
2	Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even close Don’t be sour	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 03:23 PM
2	Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even close You scathingly critiqued RP, As a response to OP. It wasn’t random. Do you know how debates work?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 10:58 AM
2	Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even close OP: “women’s self help stuff is terrible and way worse than red pill” Me: “nope, it’s terrible and exploitative too” You: “uh, no femslop is terrible” Why did you feel the need to add that comment?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 07:39 PM
3	Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even close It is OP’s position. Which you jumped in to defend. I attacked them as equally dumb. Why did you comment against my post?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 05:51 PM
2	The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectors I don't see people taking excessive precautions around thunderstorms. None of the precautions I listed are excessive or stupid. They are protective. You also are likely too young to have corded phones— it was a lot more common when your phone was hardwired to the wall to avoid having a conducting wire connecting your body to a large conducting system that could easily be hit by 30,000 to 100,000 amps. You can read the comments here, for example, of people remembering common sense rules like thes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 05:50 PM
2	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron Well, I genuinely misunderstood. Finally. Thank you for finally reading and understanding what I said. At no point do I indicate in any way that I think matriarchy would be better. Or worse. Or anything at all. I have no knowledge of what they might maybe be like, and I do not care to speculate I don't even think we disagree except for your idea that matriarchy is unknowable. By what measurement do you know that they would hypothetically be like? My point is that it is pointless to speculate abo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 05:28 PM
6	Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even close Yes, I don’t know you at all. Good job. All I can respond to is your defense of OP. The point of OP is to claim that “femslop” is waaaay worse than “menslop” I disagree— they’re both crap. You are defending his position. Got it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 04:05 PM
2	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron No I do not. You are making shit up. “I do not know anything about matriarchies” is not approval. They could be even worse for all I know!!! I do not “favor them”, you absolute liar. Why are you so pathetically determined to make up bullshit and lie about my position? Are you that attached to being the victim that you can’t even read?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 04:04 PM
2	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron So far you stated that virtually all human society was a patriarchy No, did not state this. At all. There have been some egalitarian societies, and there are some today. I don’t think western cultures today are patriarchies. So dude, can you actually read what I wrote instead of making up bullshit strawmen to feel smug? There is no point in continuing a discussion with someone who doesn’t even read what I write. Like why bother— no matter what I write, you’re just gonna pretend I said something …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 03:39 PM
2	The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectors Most people go inside (or get in a car) during a thunderstorm, instead of outside with an umbrella under the tallest tree in a field. That is the most normal response, and is the biggest step you can take to be safe. Maybe it's different around pools of water You’ve never been to a pool with a lifeguard?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 03:37 PM
2	The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is opposite Yeah I agree there is some good journalism. I wish there was less shitty journalism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 03:35 PM
2	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron Your words: but it also seems like you'd prefer it to patriarchy and I don't see why. I don’t, but you decided in your feeeeelz that I “seem” like I do. Thats putting words in my mouth while using cheap weasel words to get out of being explicit. It is deeply dishonest. You do not get to decide what I prefer. So again, either quote exactly where it is that I “seem” like I prefer it, or stop making false accusations based on your emotions. My literal point is I don’t have any way to know. Why do y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 03:34 PM
7	Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even close Sure? If you think “femslop” suckers are so dumb and rotten, why are you trying your very hardest to imitate those losers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 03:29 PM
2	What do abusive men bring to the table? You know, there’s also a toooooon of non-abusive men who are also highly attractive and get into great long term relationships with women. Why are you only interested in finding out how the worst men get away with being evil? What is your motive? Do you have a personal preference for having a girlfriend who is unusually tolerant of abusive behavior? Do you believe that tolerating abuse is a signal that a woman is more attracted to a man? Why are you so focused on something that, while common, is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 01:52 PM
2	Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even close Red pill at its core tells men to change. Eh, mostly red pill at its core seems to tell men that women are hypergamous trash, so you have to grind before you can get one, use her, and throw her away. It’s about cultivating a cynical bitterness and avoiding real human relationships in favor of mere consumption of sex. The whole goal is to be a consumer of women: to use money and influence to get a rotation of women/plates you can treat like whores and replace when you get tired of them. And don’t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 12:23 PM
2	Why do many women find it unacceptable if a man has paid for sex in the past, but are fine with a man who has slept with hundreds of women through regular dating? His past history shows that he highly values casual sex and fucking all those other women. There is zero chance I’m his one twoooo wuuuuuv, lol. He spent his youth and effort chasing the women he truly desired. Him wanting me to do his taxes and wash his sheets isn’t passion or desire. I’m not interested in being the fall-back plan of a “reformed” slut.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 12:15 PM
2	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron Nothing no said was a tantrum. You were just dishonest about my position, and now you’re trying to dodge how you put words in my mouth with petty whining. Your nasty dishonesty does not deserve the respect you feel so entitled to. You do have to give some to get some, and you gave me zero respect early on by strawmanning what I said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 12:12 PM
2	Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?" So yes. In other words, there are the highly attractive women in sex work that you would spend your infinite time and effort on… … versus some average boring 30 year old who you are barely attracted to, but you guess you could probably have sex with her if she manipulated you into it. Yes. You are. obviously way way more attracted to the women you pick in porn/onlyfans versus the boring average woman in real life. Like dude, you don’t prefer the average 30 year old who has to work for it over th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 12:09 PM
1	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron So in conclusion, Patriarchy does not inherently oppress women because matriarchy by definition does not oppress men. I have never seen a patriarchy that does not oppress women (and most men!), so I can’t draw the first conclusion. But I believe it is morally wrong to deny half the adult population access to social and political influence. I also have never seen any matriarchy, so I cannot draw the second conclusion. But I believe it is morally wrong to deny half the adult population access to s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 11:13 AM
1	Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?" Men jacking off to porn are obviously sexually attracted to those women, or you would equally be watching ugly woman porn, old woman porn, obese porn, etc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 09:25 PM
2	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron I stopped reading half way through your tirade. Ok, I won’t read yours either. You decided to ignore what I said and put lies in my mouth from the start with your “I don’t care what you actually say or believe, I Feeeeeeeeeeeeeel like you must support matriarchy”. There’s no point in a discussion with someone being so disgustingly dishonest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 09:22 PM
1	Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?" Porn is actually kind of different (not my “actual” preference). Why? Men are absolutely attracted to these women: they are literally experiencing sexual desire and ejaculating from merely looking at them. Is ejaculation not a sign of sexual attraction in men these days? There’s a pretty big difference between what modern men and women do. You’re being disingenuous Not even a little bit. I can observe that men simp for top tier beautiful women. They spend tons of attention and time and money on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 07:39 PM
3	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron We are able to hypothetically talk about matriarchy Based on what evidence? You can hypothetically make up whatever swill you want about whatever you want. But without any empirical evidence, it’s nothing but navel gazing. A bunch of pointless, unfalsifiable navel gazing may interest you, but it tells you nothing about reality and it seems entirely pointless for me to debate your imagination. And if matriarchy is just gender flipped patriarchy Why do you assume it would be? What is the basis for…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 07:32 PM
3	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron Why would men designate stupid little weak creatures who need to be told what to do as the moral guardians of home and hearth? They were supposed to be weak protected little moral creatures sheltered from the world. They were simply supposed to exist as good kindly creatures that nurtured children and existed to make life pleasant for men. And at the same time they were believed to be too weak and stupid to be able to make choices or contribute to public life. Men were believed to be the ones wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 04:01 PM
3	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron Yes there have been matriarchies. The Amazonians. The Cherokee Nation. Theres even a mountain village in china right now that is matriarchial. They were matriarchies, as in mothers ruled everything and men lacked access to public and private power? The Cherokee are/were matrilineal and egalitarian. Not a matriarchy. Matrilineal merely tells you how they traced family lineage. Power was fairly well balanced between men and women; women had social and political power, but so did men. And neither f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 03:53 PM
2	The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is opposite Well, I know some non-profit journalism exists. My wish is for less of the shitty crap. But unfortunately that makes money and propagates garbage. The not-for-profit tends to be fixed size. But yeah, in the US, like PBS got funding sliced by the current administration. Toodleoo public broadcasting. :/	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 03:42 PM
2	The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is opposite Ah, yeah I get that. I genuinely wish more of journalism was smarter and more considered. Instead of being so much stupid click-bait rage-bait shit. Lol, I’m fairly sure the internet is a mistake, at this point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 02:40 PM
1	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron Well it's not impossible. It is as far as the entire sum of all human history is concerned. Is matriarchy the flipped version of patriarchy? How should I know? Upon what information should I be answering this question? It’s like you’re asking me: if horses ruled the world, would they be evil? What’s the point of such a ridiculous question? Because if it is then it would mean women hold more positions of power, they have more social control and privileges, they are more dominant across pretty muc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 02:36 PM
1	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron So youre assuming that patriarchy is bad and matriarchy is good No. You’re making up bullshit lies and putting them in my mouth. I have no assumptions about a matriarchy because matriarchies aren’t real. They dont exist. Just like the tooth fairy. That’s not “good” or “bad”. That’s “I don’t know fucking anything about them becasue they aren’t real” I am making observations. I can observe patriarchies because they have existed. For example, the Catholic Church is explicitly a patriarchy. I c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 02:18 PM
3	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron The west is not a patriarchy, a small subset of men do hold disproportionate power though. Yeah. The Catholic Church is a specific exception— it is explicitly ruled by men only, and the rulers even call themselves “fathers”. They’re not technically fathers of in a biological family, but they also preach that the family structure should be male led. So I’m comfortable calling Catholicism a “patriarchy”. And like many patriarchies, they also do have it set up so that women are totally excluded fro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 02:11 PM
0	The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is opposite Sure. But I’m not a writer and nobody would read what I write. My point is that there is also a genuinely good reason to be more critical of a teenage boy using AI than a middle aged woman. The fact that they are not treated the same is not the issue: AI is a different problem for the two.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 01:02 PM
0	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron How would anyone know what a matriarchy is like when there have never been any observed? It is stupid to ask a yes or no question about something where there is literally no way to know the answer. Your question is like “yes or no: do fairies have wings?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 12:52 PM
-1	The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is opposite I would personally consider it a lot more dangerous for a child to use an AI for companionship than an adult. It’s not a condemnation of either— it’s a “oh no, not another predatory company exploiting kids for profit while ruining their chance to build life skills”. Kinda like how I view Facebook/insta.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 12:29 PM
-3	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron How would you even know? There has never been any known society on earth that was actually a matriarchy. Tell me, what matriarchies do you know that oppressed men? Why do you guys talk up impossible boogeymen like they’re a real threat to you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 12:19 PM
5	Any female that genuinely supports the patriarchy is a total moron No, patriarchy is the rule by “the fathers”, not rule by men. It is a system where the eldest male or father figure has all the power in a family. Patriarchy does not mean “every man has a great life and rules over every woman, and every woman is treated like shit” Rule by all men would be something more like “andrarchy”. I don’t believe that the modern west is “A PATRIARCHY”. But lots of men being treated like shit or even fucking murdered is pretty par for the course with patriarchies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 12:16 PM
2	Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?" We observe who you want to have sex with on Tinder, estimate how far that is from a guy who’s similar to you, and assume you’re settling. So we can observe who average men want to have sex with in porn and by who they follow on Instagram, estimate how far that is from a woman who is similar to him, and assume he’s settling too. What you’re saying is that men settle all the time and you expect women to be flattered by being his last choice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 12:07 PM
5	Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?" They think women too stupid to know when something isn’t pleasurable and will just do the sex thing anyways. Like sure, maybe that could work if you live in a religious society where women are taught exclusively that sex is their duty and it won’t feel good and women are forbidden to talk to each other. Then their little naive religious virgin will just think sex is miserable and try to avoid it as much as possible, but at least she won’t think it could ever be better. But being completely preve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 12:01 PM
3	Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?" It is men who are obsessed with hierarchical rankings and competition. Women really tend not to be nearly so obsessed with this kind of ranking thing. You are so obsessed with competition with other men that you have invented in your head a new sports arena for yourselves: women sitting around talking about who’s dating who. I have literally never ever been in a conversation with women I know that sounds like this bizarre male-competition sporting event you describe. Is there some dumb Hollywood…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 11:48 AM
5	If women say they want emotional honesty and vulnerability in men, why do so many still lose attraction the moment a man actually stops pretending to be emotionally invincible ? There are men who aren’t able to attract women who are mature, even if they are mature themselves. There are also a whole lot of men who don’t want a mature woman. Certainly not if she comes in a mature package. What they often want is a woman who is actually 19 but has the emotional maturity of a 38 year old.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/26 11:48 PM
7	Why is women's popular music so much more sexual than mens? 🤣 This whole post is killing me. 🍿 There’s no sex or drugs in his rock n’ roll, gosh dern-it! And also rock is for stuffy sticky britches men only! No girls allowed!!!	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/26 09:05 PM
2	People who move to other countries just for sex/dating/marriage is a good thing If the women choose this, that's their business. Oh, so you don’t actually give a shit about telling the difference. Why ask the question if your response is just gonna be “pfft, it doesn’t matter anyways”?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/26 08:30 PM
5	Why is women's popular music so much more sexual than mens? lol, fair, the neceophilia thing is the music video	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/26 07:21 PM
9	Why is women's popular music so much more sexual than mens? OP is just admitting that either his only exposure to rock music is Christian rock, or that he doesn’t ever listen to the lyrics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/26 05:52 PM
6	Why is women's popular music so much more sexual than mens? here’s some classic rock sex songs: “pour some sugar on me”, “you shook me all night long”, “mama’s got a squeeze box”, “cherry pie”, “rock you like a hurricane”, “Cum on feel the noize”, “hot for teacher”, “Pussy” (yes, it’s really a rock song. By rammstein), “let me put my love into you”, “slide it in”, “sex type thing”, “Fuck Time”, “cover you in oil”, “sweet head”, “whip it”, “sin”, “tonight (we need a lover)”, “love in an elevator”, “why don’t we do it in the road” (yeah, the Beatles have a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/26 05:48 PM
10	Why is women's popular music so much more sexual than mens? I’ll add just one another and elaborate just so it’s super clear it’s not just Prince. Songs include: “Gett off”, “Head”, “Soft and Wet”, “Erotic City”, “Do me baby”, “insatiable”, “sex in summer”, “I wanna be your lover”, “sexy dancer”, “Jack U Off”, “DSMR” (dance music sex machine)… And that’s just a list of titles. It’ll blow OP’s probably-literalist mind, but there’s a lot of songs about sex that aren’t immediately obvious. Like, “Little red corvette” is not about a fancy car. It’s an ode to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/26 05:24 PM
3	Misandry is more prevalent than misogyny You don't have to extremely pretty, usually just not overweight. This describes me just fine. Nobody has ever offers to finance me or support me like this. You are delusional. Ive seen youtubers do experiments pretending to be average girls Your impression of “average girl” is an 8/10 hot 22 year old. Of the thousands of potential matches women get, I sure as fuck never got “thousands of potential matches”, lol. This is just brain rot YouTube shills feeding you conspiracy crap. Actual normal ave…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/26 05:07 PM
4	Misandry is more prevalent than misogyny Women don't and can get by if they just maintain their appearance Only if they are very pretty… same as very good looking men. You just don’t see the rest of us at all. At no point in my life have I ever been able to “get by” on solely my appearance. Nobody ever gave me food or shelter for my looks. And no, before you start throwing insults and moral judgements, I was never fat or hideous, just ordinary looking. I wore makeup and nice clothes. Nobody treated me like a fuckin princess for that sh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/26 02:59 PM
11	The stay at home wife is not traditional and is mostly a myth. The critique is not about women working, but women pursuing careers and entering the workplace. So your critique isn’t the idea that women worked… it’s that you just don’t like it when women got paid well for their work or got credit for it. In your ideal world, women should only ever work for minimal to no pay and no recognition! Explains a lot about why you RP guys love are obsessively pushing this falsehood that men created civilization all on their own, and women’s labor contributed nothing …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/26 12:53 PM
8	Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reason Women seem to be mad about how modern men have a different mindset towards them than men of the past lol where on earth are you finding these modern women mad that modern men are not more like they were 70 years ago? 🤣 Seriously, what???? Where these women sad that they can’t get smacked on the ass at work and then told to “cool it, toots” when she objects? Like… did you read all the red pill whining that women today aren’t more submissive and obedient like their grandma, then flip the genders i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/26 03:07 AM
15	Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reason But all women have to be is a normal woman for us to be just as in the dark And yet you absolutely expect women to understand men enough to soothe them and give them peace and satisfy them in every way. Why can’t you put in the kind of work you expect from women? Women are not aliens and men are not this pathetically stupid. This is just excuses for taking the easy path of “oh women must be all bad” instead of seeing women as actual humans. Anyone who cannot even fathom that women are actually v…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/26 12:07 AM
2	Esther Perel on Oprah. It will depend on the individual woman. A childless woman will not expect him to want children: she will expect him NOT to want children. A woman who loves to cook will not expect him to be a great cook. (Like, I know I do not expect this? I expect him to be able to make basic food instead of being a helpless idiot who can’t figure out how to boil water… but he doesn’t have to be “great”) A woman who is already safe on her own will not expect a man to “protect” her. Some women expect protection …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 06:03 PM
1	Why do you think some women feel entitled to fight men without retaliation? No she's thinks it's an argument. I'm talking about a physical altercation. She’s hitting, and she knows she’s hitting. Why do you believe she thinks she’s not being physical? She doesn't expect physical reciprocation when she starts hitting. She uses her vulnerability as a weapon, No, she believes that if he hits her, then bystanders will defend her and condemn him… and she’ll win in the court of public opinion. She might be right and she might be wrong. The “shocked pikachu face” is likely onl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 04:28 PM
2	Esther Perel on Oprah. She's pointing out the fact that the original list of things given is not actually the full list. No, Perel assumed all sorts of things not stated and put words in the other woman’s mouth. Chauffeur seems particularly bonkers for her to just assume every woman wants by default. Like really, how many modern young women do you even meet who actually like “ew, I want a man who will drive me everywhere and I don’t even have a car”. You know, outside of somewhere like Saudi Arabia where women kinda h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 03:52 PM
2	Why do you think some women feel entitled to fight men without retaliation? I think she doesn't expect a fight. She already thinks it’s a fight. An initially verbal fight that she’s escalating with her hands so she can win it. And realistically, some of the time, she will win with this tactic— the guy will back down to avoid other men entering the fight in her defense. Same as the dude who goes from words to punching. And realistically, whoever throws the first punch often does win the fight— they don’t expect the other person to keep hitting after their first haymaker.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 03:03 PM
2	I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA? First, answer my question: how exactly is having to sit still and be quiet in school teaching girls to view men as “evil”. You alleged it. Now answer the question. How does sitting still in school brainwash girls into hating men, like you alleged? Now for your “well, actually just some Disney teen shows”… which ones? You originally said from an early age, and alleged it was any TV show. To point out that literally every popular early age tv show for kids isn’t doing anything you say is the oppos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 02:30 PM
0	Why do you think some women feel entitled to fight men without retaliation? You're describing two scenarios, one where there is no fight to win and another where there is. You think a woman hitting someone isn’t a fight? Seems fairly condescending and sexist to imagine that women being violent isn’t real violence, if you ask me. I’d prefer to protect men from female abusers, personally, rather than to dismiss violence against them as nothing. The problem is the exact same: in both cases there is an altercation with aggression, words, and a desire to hit, and one idiot s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 01:58 PM
3	Why do you think some women feel entitled to fight men without retaliation? How can she expect to win a fight when she doesn't even anticipate that her actions will cause one? She is literally hitting him— she knows she is hitting him and that she wants him to give up and lose. She expects to dominate him and for him to cower under her hits. Same as the dude who starts hitting. He starts hitting becasue he doesn’t think he’ll get pummeled. He expects to dominate the other dude just like she did. Both thought they’d win easily by throwing hands, and both shocked they are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 12:45 AM
4	I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA? I’m asking a specific question: you said kids are taught in TV shows from a young age. Which TV shows are you talking about. You made a claim. You say you have no clue what is in kids shows… even though you just confidently claimed that you know they’re full of man-hating. Why did you make that up? It seems quite dishonest. For starters classrooms themselves are built around feminine structures. Boys do better with hands on learning and moving. Not sitting down and being quiet. Long before girls…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 12:33 AM
3	Why do you think some women feel entitled to fight men without retaliation? but that doesn't mean they didn't expect the other guy to hit back lol. They expected to win, same as the woman. You’re trying to really drum up this difference like it’s realy important for me to understand that women are… something? But it seems to be a totally silly distinction without any substance. The woman expects not to be laid out flat, and so does the man. I don’t see a meaningful difference here. So why do you think it is so meaningful to distinguish between how many hits a woman and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 08:04 PM
7	I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA? You say it’s from an early age… can you point to some little kids shows that paint men poorly now in the west from an early age? Cuz I’m lookin at bluey, paw patrol, cocomelon, peppa pig, Sesame Street, blue’s clues, Daniel tiger, Thomas the tank engine, my little pony, Pokemon… I’m honestly not sure I see where you’re seeing men painted poorly, specifically. For example, right now bluey is globally the most popular little kid show… and it’s totally positive about their dad and uncle and male fr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 07:19 PM
8	I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA? It's just like boomer humor You’re really not contradicting what she said. A whole lotta boomer men fucking despised their wives too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 07:00 PM
2	Why do you think some women feel entitled to fight men without retaliation? Men who throw punches know almost to a certainty they will get hit back. No really, its actually still the same. They both expect to win, and are shocked if they don’t. It just takes less hits for the woman to loose, but the expectation is still the same. Like, I cannot believe you really seriously think dumb violent men are always starting a fight with sober realistic expectations? What is it Mike Tyson said? Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face. I don’t think he was talking …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 06:45 PM
2	Why do you think some women feel entitled to fight men without retaliation? I just acknowledge that you tried to attack me personally— telling me to calm down is directed at me personally. That doesn’t mean I am taking it personally. It’s also embarrassing for you that you keep trying to mind read instead of actually answering the question. As for length— sometimes it takes more than 3 words to explain something. I already told you the reasons. You may pretend they don't exist, but they do. So you’re not going to answer why you choose to ignore the stupid violent men wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 11:51 AM
4	Why do you think some women feel entitled to fight men without retaliation? Again, you are taking this way too personal I haven’t taken anything personal. I’m just aware that “calm down” is used as a cheap tactic to dismiss people without actually presenting an argument. I already told you. Men fully expect to be hit back, when they throw hands. Women expect the dude will just take it and don't defend himself. And I already told you: stupid violent men are totally likely to go surprised pikachu face when they get his hard. My question was why is it so important to you t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 11:37 AM
–	"Not all men" is barely even true and women have good reason to be wary of dating men Ahhhhh. Got it, yeah, that makes total sense. I thought you meant like “somewhat willing to consider consent”, since your first sentence referred to you always having consensual sex, and then said most men in online dating are somewhat like this (the first sentence). For the record, I do agree that using “saught sex with a stranger” is a bad metric for sexual coercion. It is totally possible for two strangers to discuss things and mutually consent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 11:28 AM
3	Why do you think some women feel entitled to fight men without retaliation? I am calm. You’re just overreacting. Telling someone to “calm down” because you don’t like what they said is a cheap lazy attack on the person, not an actual argument or refutation. So why did you feel it was so important to spin up a non-existent difference between stupid violent women and stupid violent men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 11:21 AM
–	"Not all men" is barely even true and women have good reason to be wary of dating men Those strangers I had sex with were consensual. This is totally possible I’m pretty sure every guy who has ever used online dating has been somewhat like this You think literally every man on online dating is… “somewhat” not a rapist. Huh? Kinda makes your first claim a lot more suspect when you barely think online dating rape is even possible. You do know that going on a date isn’t actually automatic consent, right? Like I’m just baffled that you think any man in online dating is automatically …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 10:59 AM
4	Why do you think some women feel entitled to fight men without retaliation? and then pikachu face when she gets punched Did you miss the part where I said people who hit others over words are stupid people? Stupid people play stupid game and are often shocked at the stupid prizes they win. There’s a bajillion stupid violent dudes who look totally shocked when the person they hit turns out to be good at hitting back, too. Stop trying to stir up some explanation for why you think stupid violent men are somehow smarter or more noble than stupid violent women. There’s reall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 07:51 AM
2	People who move to other countries just for sex/dating/marriage is a good thing I didn’t say otherwise. I agree it’s a huge risk to date someone with a lot more money/power than you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 07:38 AM
2	Why do you think some women feel entitled to fight men without retaliation? Why do you think some men feel entitled to hit people? Same as women. People who hit someone over words are violent, shitty, stupid people. Next question.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 07:19 AM
1	People who move to other countries just for sex/dating/marriage is a good thing How can you tell the difference? Some of them say that’s why they went to that country: because they can use their financial leverage to get a woman to be submissive to them. I’m willing to assume they mean what they say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 12:45 AM
5	Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with women Your gender will keep trying to dodge accountability What exactly do you think accountability means? Like, in a practical sense. Like, describe what you think it would look like if women were sufficiently accountable to your tastes. And explain to me how you think men are meeting this goal. For example, how are you holding yourself accountable here? So far all you’ve done is call women constitutionally illogical and dumb— it certainly doesn’t seem that you ever hold yourself accountable for trum…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 12:25 AM
2	Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates It it's a process that started with christianity and the middle ages and culminated here You mean the religion that literally declares women inferior and states that women are the origin of all human sin. You cannot be serious 🤣	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 08:27 PM
4	"meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy, Wrong, we say that women settle all the time, You say women settle for men they have no attraction to, but also that he’s still superior. the point is that they always WANT to date up No, you define anything that is attractive to women as automatically superior. Meanwhile, you define anything that is attractive to men as inferior or “doesn’t count”. So men have to partner with people that are constantly judging and comparing them You say this while you are literally comparing women and always fi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 08:26 PM
3	"meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy, its not being taller than her, its about being taller compared to other men, The word “hypergamy” refers to a comparison against her own height and status. You guys keep changing the definition so you can find some way to demonize women for every action they could possibly take. which is why a 5'6 man thats taller than her, shes still going to find the 6'3 man much more attractive And I promise, that when she dates a man who is exactly her own height, you will still call her a hypergamous whore.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 01:48 PM
2	Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates It RP happened when men found out that society lied that women are perfect angels. RP men lied to themselves and made it up in their heads. Nobody told them women are supernatural They manufactured their own perfect dream girl in their heads and got mad that real human women weren’t these imaginary creatures. This doesn't even make sense. Autocorrect sucks, although it’s kinda pitiful you can’t handle one autocorrected mistake that’s directly quoting your own words. Should say: And femininity has b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 01:39 PM
2	"meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy, I think part of the issue is that a great deal of our sexual morality is still nested in the assumption that in a healthy society there should be high heterosexual pairing rates. Why do you think that simple pairing would be more moral than less? Is the optimal, most moral pairing rate 100%? Do you just mean pairing males with desirable females, where there really genuinely are nowhere enough hot young women to go around for all the men who want them? What if that extreme pairing requires force?…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 01:32 PM
2	If women faced a real safety risk in dating, then their behaviour would represent it Guy deleted his comment before I could post, so I’ll respond here, because he’s right that I misread… but then also wrong in thinking that clothing will somehow mitigate the risk of harm. Starting here: You’re right, you said it differently. I hadn’t had my coffee yet. However, the point is still true in regard to what you said also: there is also no kind of clothing you can wear as a woman where people will not blame you for being raped. It is a human psychological failing: we want to believe t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 12:44 PM
–	Why do BluePill people give such generic and crappy dating advice? The same kinda guy who falls for “get rich quick” scams, probably. Or the guy who thinks he’s gonna loose 100 pounds and get ripped by taking a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar a day or whatever weird gimmick is around today. Some people are always looking for that one cheap and easy trick. They dumb.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 12:01 PM
3	If women faced a real safety risk in dating, then their behaviour would represent it If a womans number one priority was not safety but to have immunity against ignorant men saying its their fault then they would all be wearing full veils head to toe like in islamic countires. You are ignorant and naive to believe that wearing full-body veils prevent rape, or even reduces it. Rapists are the ONLY people who cause a rape to happen. Nobody else. There is literally no clothing I could possibly wear that would “make” someone rape me. You’re exactly the kind of man that TermAggravati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 11:30 AM
3	Does Saying “Women Don’t Need Men Anymore” Imply That Men Were Mainly Valued for Providing Resources? I think becoming a nun would have been a better choice The Protestant reformation broadly abolished nunneries. Martin Luther hated monasticism— he said long vows of chastity were unnatural and believed vows of chastity opposed the sanctity of marriage. Becoming a nun was not a choice available to many women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 12:58 AM
2	Does Saying “Women Don’t Need Men Anymore” Imply That Men Were Mainly Valued for Providing Resources? You know what’s wild? In parts of Switzerland, women have only been allowed to vote for about 30 years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 12:50 AM
4	"meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy, Average women are never going to admit to doing or being something others around them consider 'bad'. OP specified height as a key example of this female hypergamy you all have determined is so deeply immoral. So explain: what specifically is either moral or immoral about a height preference that conforms to basic human sexual dimorphism? Most men are quite a bit taller than most women— this is basic human biology. So what specifically to you think is immoral about an average woman dating an ave…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 12:30 AM
13	"meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy, Since when does a man being tall mean he is superior to her? It is basic biological fact that most men are taller than most women. If you think a woman dating a man taller than herself is “hypergamy”, or dating up… you’re really just saying you think most women are inferior to most men. The average man is, after all, very significantly taller than the average woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 12:14 AM
1	Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates It What you don't understand is that nobody should be above criticism Lol, no. You are terminally incapable of understanding. I do not object to criticism in general. I object to people maiming irrational dumb criticisms of everything women have ever done pretending they like femininity. Like dude, if all you do is criticize women and never have one single nice thing to say about any female human being ever, you do not like femininity. but society placed women on a pedestal No. Stupid men expecting…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 12:11 AM
1	How good would women be at dating if they had to be men for a year and date women? I was horribly pathetic and unwanted in dating. I don’t expect I’d do any better as a man. Why do you guys always always always imagine that average boring mediocre-looking women are somehow saught-after like supermodels and rock stars? It’s like the only women you think are real women are the ones who are well above average. My dating experience was a full decade of being totally ignored. I could easily achieve that exact same level of virginity as a man, lol. Success!!!	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 06:24 PM
1	Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates It if you attack every man everywhere and say literally everything about them is inherently shit, you are dissing masculinity. Yes. And if you attack every woman everywhere and say literally everything about them is inherently shit, you are dissing femininity. Duh. If you think the only good traits of femininity are traits you think literally zero women have… why are you even calling those traits “feminine” in the first place? Femininity is, by definition, a list of traits associated with women and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 05:43 PM
3	The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectors and you do not put on lightning protective gear every time it thunderstorms. How old even are you? Normal people take precautions against lighting all the time! They just don’t use stupid fake made up stuff like “lightning protective gear”. The normal precautions everyone is advices to take against getting struck by lightning are: take shelter indoors if you hear thunder; don’t be outside! if you are at a pool, the lifeguards will instruct everyone to get out of the pool immediately if they hear…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 12:30 PM
1	Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates It None of that is thrashing femininity, No. For example, claiming that no women anywhere in all of history contributed to civilization is absolutely thrashing femininity as worthless, if you believe that at least some women were ever feminine. It is saying femininity is worthless— that is absolutely a dig. you want to categorize any critique of women's behavior as thrashing Nonsense. If you attack every woman everywhere and say literally everything about them is inherently shit, you are dissing fe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 11:49 AM
3	Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates It Give me examples. Red pillers describing women as having no accountability, being “incapable of love”, that women are leeches who date men to “drain them of their resources”, arguing that men alone built civilization and women never contributed anything of value ever, claiming that women are always inferior in every way to anyone they have sex with (“hyperrrrrrrgamy”), claiming that women are innately solipsistic and can’t think logically (for example, your bros used to love the “female rational…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 12:35 AM
2	Society is 'equal' everywhere except the expensive, high-risk part where men have to audition I make a lot because I do handle this level of responsibility. Then why are you complaining that other people who have less responsibility than you give a shit about their kids? You are compensated handsomely for not having kids and covering for other people who do. Children have to be born to continue society. People have to care for them They are not grown on vines. I'm still undervalued, Ok, and so why are you blaming women for having children for that? You aren’t gonna double their pay in or…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 09:23 PM
2	Society is 'equal' everywhere except the expensive, high-risk part where men have to audition In the real world, we make lemonade And apparently blame women for it, lol. It is still exactly 100% correct in saying that, if your whole process will break or go into full panic overtime mode if one or two people on the team get sick or having a funeral or go on medical leave or just quit, then your team is desperately, stupidly understaffed. Your requirement that women should just never have children so they can better ensure you can maintain a skeleton crew is blaming the wrong people for th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 01:32 PM
2	Society is 'equal' everywhere except the expensive, high-risk part where men have to audition A correctly staffed company doesn’t actually do this— if there is sufficient staff and competent planning, the workload of the woman on maternity leave is spread out and slowed down to prevent anyone being overworked. In addition, you’re supposed to take paternity leave too, so you can bond with your children instead of just dumping all the work on your wife and still expecting her to do a full time job plus full time childcare. You guys wonder why the birthrate is low… and then sit here and say…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 12:37 PM
4	Society is 'equal' everywhere except the expensive, high-risk part where men have to audition It's just "if you don't like the unfairness, leave" dressed up in slight-of-hand word salad. “If you don’t like it, then leave” is the primary mechanism of changing the dating market. Men don’t like ugly women, so they don’t date them. Women respond by wearing makeup and dressing better and trying to look their best. And ugly women get outcompeted by the ones who look better and have way fewer choices of who to date… just like has always been true. Likewise, if men don’t want to pay for expensiv…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 12:26 PM
7	Do abusive men have good personalities? because you can’t be kind and abusive I agree you can’t be an all-around kind person and be abusive… But it’s more complicated than that. Abusers can get lots of cover from the rest of the community because they are warm and kind to other people while being abusive to their select targets. People will think “no, he/she is such a good person; these accusations of abuse must be a lie,” and defend the abuser… and even attack the person being abused for making the accusation. Unfortunately, you can’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 12:13 PM
5	Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates It We don't we seek feminity Red pillers trash femininity every chance they can. it's a defense of masculinity rather than an attack on feminity. And the “best defense” you could come up with was to attack your enemies: women. Women don't provide it anymore because it's better for them You don’t need to pretend like actually being respected is some kind of scam. Red pillers demonstrate themselves how much they fucking despise women providing traditional feminine labor. You call women who do traditi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 07:14 PM
–	Romance is dying because men and women know too much about each other. Reality obviously can never compete with the idealised version of women that men invented in their own minds. You also don’t mention how miserable it is for women to know they cannot ever possibly live up to the fantastical ideal image that men conjured up as how they think women are supposed to be. You’d be expected to live up to this magical, impossibly angelic fairytale creature image, and no matter what you do or how hard you try, he will be angry at you for failing to live up to this ideal …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 02:06 PM
–	Romance is dying because men and women know too much about each other. Smart people… Would not lower themselves to implying others are simple. So why did you do exactly that? Although I suppose you didn’t imply it, you just said it directly: Women are simple	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 01:51 PM
6	Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates It You cannot demand high levels of male productivity and civilizational contribution while simultaneously destroying the biological and social incentives — pair bonding, respect, and family formation — that historically motivated men to strive and achieve. You know, if women providing sex and relationships to men is the only reason society and civilization exists, why aren’t you red pillers more grateful to women for building civilization? Why do you give infinite praise to men and masculinity for…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 01:26 PM
8	Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates It Those are not rewards. That's what you get as exchange for your services, aka work. Yeah, they are rewards. A reward is something given in exchange for good behavior, a service rendered, or an achievement. Thats the definition of reward. Why do women literally become hard core conservatives when it comes to dating issues. Why do red pill men want women to be publicly distributed welfare product that distributes sex to men indiscriminately, but then also call them whores if they have sex with mor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 01:05 PM
6	Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates It Okay, all the more reason for women to work hard at learning skills that are actually valued, instead of performing ones that men don’t respect and are, as you describe them, talentless snd unremarkable. If being feminine and a housewife and a mother is trashed and disrespected by men, women will learn different skills to avoid being treated that way. Being treated as a mediocre worker dude is better than being treated like a disrespected house servant. You yourselves incentivize women to not wa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 12:53 PM
5	Why do many women find it unacceptable if a man has paid for sex in the past, but are fine with a man who has slept with hundreds of women through regular dating? Definitely not. I didn’t fuck around. Why on earth would I settle for a man who did? I want to be actually special to the guy I’m with, not just be fuckhole #17, or #26, or #85. I am not interested in being his last choice boring woman he settled for after he had his fun with the women he actually found attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 12:28 PM
2	The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men. It's said in response to the constant vilification of men and masculinity by feminazis and it's intented to be a symbolic way for men to reclaim their masculinity. Lol, you can’t ride on a moral high horse while acting exactly the same as the people you hate. And dude, no, you don’t get to pretend you’re just out to defend yourselves against mean “feminazis”. The term “AWALT” makes it very clear you are targeting all women and femininity. You guys view all women and femininity as evil worthless …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 12:24 PM
3	Ladies, why do women say “don’t objectify me” while going on to post provocative photos and dress proactively in public? Then get upset when someone comments on it? I’m obviously not psychic and can’t know exactly what your intention is, You can know not to be rude, though. And you can know how to behave decently towards others. but if you think men aren’t going to see that and not think “sex” you are either a moron or acting in bad faith. Lol, I agree they’ll think “sex” at that: they think sex at everything. Men will think “sex” no matter what women do. Men think “sex” at women wearing huge puffy full body coats in winter. They think “sex” when they see m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 12:20 PM
2	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy And it supports my point: birth control changed the cultural meaning of sex. What it did not do, however, was make women not using birth control feel like they were “not real women”. And of course you dismiss all these other examples as meaningless and unimportant. (yeah, you don’t give a shit about any of those other life-saving technologies or all the massive cultural changes they brought— because you really do know nothing about pregnancy or childbirth or breastfeeding or the cultural issues …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 12:05 PM
5	Ladies, why do women say “don’t objectify me” while going on to post provocative photos and dress proactively in public? Then get upset when someone comments on it? I do think this one is on women for, to use the language of my foremothers, dressing like whores. If women all dressed way way more modestly than they do today, you’d say the women showing their ankles or not wearing a veil were whores. It isn’t actually the clothes you wear or the amount of skin you show that make men treat you with disrespect. It’s whether they feel like you are breaking some kind of cultural standard or rule and deserve to be called a whore for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 12:50 AM
2	Women insist that femininity is unfairly seen as inferior while they refuse any ideas about having power over men. There’s levels to this shit but leveraging your sexuality absolutely is a viable path for women, A viable path to getting dicks, but nothing else. Not to actually getting anything useful or valuable done. Men don’t respect a woman for being slutty. They respect men for being slutty. (Cue all the “it’s easy for a woman to be slutty but hard for a man” rationalizations of their feelings). Gotta still be classy and have self respect. Yes. Men will respect you for other things, not for fucking aroun…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 08:04 PM
2	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy Artificial wombs would be an unprecedented level of deviation from the traditional norm. So was literally cutting a woman’s abdomen open with a knife. And did you know that the chainsaw was invented to assist in childbirth during obstructed labor. And likewise, something as seemingly simple to you as baby formula was a massive huge medical revolution which saved lives and provided unprecedented flexibility to new parents. Men could literally feed a baby for the first time in all of human history…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 07:56 PM
2	Women insist that femininity is unfairly seen as inferior while they refuse any ideas about having power over men. No no no, if Hillary had just flashed her titties at the debates, she’d have been crowned the god-empress of the universe. /s, obviously.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 01:04 PM
2	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy The gestation part is much more crucial to some mothers' sense of identity than the birthing part. And for some other women, not using medical interventions or not having a cesarean, etc etc, is just as important. They don’t feel like a mother at all if they have those things in exactly the same way. You are trying to find some way to make this one specific medical intervention seem totally unique… but you really do not know just how diverse and common it is for women to gatekeep the experience …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 01:02 PM
2	Women insist that femininity is unfairly seen as inferior while they refuse any ideas about having power over men. They’re benign in the sense of who cares what others think. If you wanna suck dick you’re gonna suck dick anyway, why pretend like you aint? 🤷🏾‍♂️ Because you want respect more than some rando taking a beej then refusing to return the favor. Most people care about respect in life. If nobody respect you, you will be treated like absolute shit. Most people don’t want to be treated like shit 🤷‍♀️ And if someone wants a long term relationship with someone, they definitely care what that person think…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 11:50 AM
2	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy I don't believe there is a conspiracy nor that it has an intent. The word “monopoly” does imply intent. A monopoly is a corporation, not a random emergent “but some guys don’t get to date the women they want” kind of feeling. I apologize. I should not have said that. Thank you for the apology. I accept, really. When someone is out of the market they are no longer providing a good/service and therefore they no longer count for the tought experiment. They are absolutely still providing that “good …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 11:44 AM
1	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy The widespread use of artificial wombs would probably cause a shift in cultural attitudes toward motherhood and undermine one of the ways that mothers have traditionally found meaning and purpose. The widespread use of cesareans has not stripped women of the ability to feel like a mom, even though some women believe you are not a “real mother” if you had a cesarean. That is an exact, perfect parallel to your belief, and it shows perfectly that your belief on this doesn’t make any sense whatsoeve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 11:30 PM
1	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy I understand your point. I disagree. Yes. I understand that you disagree and think that women are a conspiracy to hurt men. You were way out of line to accuse me of bad faith simply because you cannot handle anyone disagreeing with your view that women are a unified singular corporation. It is very clear you have zero understanding of how other humans work, and particularly of women. And when a minority of women has a different perspective On other words, you agree that women are not a monopoly.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 11:22 PM
1	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy Are you denying that there are mothers who view gestation as an essential element of their motherhood? I know a woman who said “you’re not a real mother if you gave birth to your baby by c-section”. There are women who think only women who give vaginal birth with no medical intervention whatsoever count as “real mothers”. So what is your point here? How would artificial wombs strip those women of the right to view being pregnant as essential to their own experience of motherhood? And even if tho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 09:20 PM
1	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy And i pointed out that no matter what fractal scale you look at, the problem is the exact same. And you are deliberately ignoring all of that to pretend I’m talking only about the scale of the full earth. Your accusation that I’m arguing in bad faith is entirely unfair and based solely on your unwillingness to tolerate the idea that women are not a monolith on any scale, where all women in whatever region or group automatically agree with any manner of agreement. Women are not a monopoly. Not ev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 09:13 PM
2	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy I was speaking hypothetically A very silly hypothetical to try to overreach on your claim that artificial wombs will strip women of the identity of being a mother. If a woman truly wants to gestate a child herself, how will an artificial womb prevent her from being a mother? It's not hard to imagine why the artificial womb might be necessary in some situations, though. Maybe there's a medical issue that would make natural gestation hazardous to the fetus, or to the woman, or to both. So you beli…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 07:58 PM
1	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy Women don't care about what men want. You really seriously believe men are not part of culture, and that they are totally purely segregated from the singular universal female hive-mind you’ve conjured up in your head. Ok. See.above. regional monopoly No, there is no regional monopoly either. No matter what fractal scale you select, if you actually honestly understood women, you would recognize that there is no monopoly, Even within a teeny tiny close-knit group of friends, there are clear disagr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 07:55 PM
6	Women here keep doubting (or feigning ignorance) about the acceptability of virulent misandry in mainstream feminism, so here's a feminist YouTuber/Substacker/Podcaster who advocates forced vasectomies for young boys It's not satire. You have demonstrated repeatedly that you do not know what satire is. If it were she wouldn't have deployed feminist reasoning, logic and history No, that is not a requirement of how satire works. Satire works often by adopting the logical structure of what it is criticizing, while substituting the same A similar satirical play would have been for someone opposed to slavery in the US South pre-1865 to present an argument for why white people should be slaves based instead of bla…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 07:08 PM
2	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy When you and your friends are the only source for a good/service and have shared ideas on who should get it? Are you for real?? What woman counts literally all the women on Earth among her friends and family? Have you met this Queen bee? I never have. Where does she live? Nobody is friends and family with a billion+ people. Nobody. Culture. That is the mechanism of communication. Sooooo, the same thing you’re also part of? And that is not even remotely shared across all peoples even within the s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 06:58 PM
5	Women insist that femininity is unfairly seen as inferior while they refuse any ideas about having power over men. seriously these are benign You know they are not benign. They are the terms men use to describe women they think are trash. The only men who don’t like sluts are the one’s who aint getting laid According to your red pill, that’s the vast majority of men. 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 06:48 PM
10	Women here keep doubting (or feigning ignorance) about the acceptability of virulent misandry in mainstream feminism, so here's a feminist YouTuber/Substacker/Podcaster who advocates forced vasectomies for young boys It’s not apologetics. I’m not addressing her video at all. I’m addressing the fact that you do not understand what satire is. Satire I usually involves taking the premise very seriously in order to point out the absurdity of the premise itself. The fact that you claim any satire is automatically a deadly serious advocacy for the subject being satirized means you are not competent to argue the meaning of any alleged satirical piece of media. Again, satire is very much not a case of “bad thing bad…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 06:46 PM
2	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy Having friends and sharing similar opinions or similar values is also not a monopoly. Again, I redirect you to the definition of a monopoly. There must be conscious concerted effort for the entire corporation to act as one. It is genuinely insane that you think all 4 billion of us are a unified block or cartel. What even is the mechanism of communication that we use? If women were actually a monopoly, you would either have sexual access to all women or zero, no in between. So how did you even ac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 06:04 PM
2	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy If women didn't have a strong in group bias you would have a point. Women do not have a strong in-group bias when it comes to sexual competition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 05:02 PM
12	Women here keep doubting (or feigning ignorance) about the acceptability of virulent misandry in mainstream feminism, so here's a feminist YouTuber/Substacker/Podcaster who advocates forced vasectomies for young boys It's very clear that this YouTuber deliberately armed her audience with the ammo they'd need to promote Again, satire isn’t making a bunch of very deadly serious points they intend to mobilize and follow through on then saying ‘lolz jk’ at the end. Like, you must’ve read Jonathan Swift’s “a modest proposal” and really genuinely thought he was proposing a restaurant franchise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 05:01 PM
10	Women here keep doubting (or feigning ignorance) about the acceptability of virulent misandry in mainstream feminism, so here's a feminist YouTuber/Substacker/Podcaster who advocates forced vasectomies for young boys This post kinda vaguely reminds me of that time in the early 2000s when whatever conservative leader person watched The Colbert Report, believed very genuinely that Stephen Colbert was a true died-in-the-wool conservative, emphatically did not understand the show was satire… and then invited him to give the key speech at the White House correspondent’s dinner praising the president. … and Colbert got on stage mocked the absolute shit out of then President Bush. 🥲. So great.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 04:51 PM
9	Women here keep doubting (or feigning ignorance) about the acceptability of virulent misandry in mainstream feminism, so here's a feminist YouTuber/Substacker/Podcaster who advocates forced vasectomies for young boys Then I say at the end "lolz jk" You don’t seem to understand the definition of the word “satire”. Satire is not “lolz jk”. Like, regardless of whatever point you’re making or this rando video, you are very clearly demonstrating a total lack of media literacy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 04:42 PM
3	With the saying "She's not yours, its just your turn". In the end us men is just another option to you right? You cycle through many men in relationship and sexual experience and usually you downplay it as the 'past'. This does not even remotely describe my life. Like, not in the slightest. But you will always manufacture whatever demons you fear to feed your insecurities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 02:46 PM
22	Why do many women find it unacceptable if a man has paid for sex in the past, but are fine with a man who has slept with hundreds of women through regular dating? No difference to me— both dudes are sluts who don’t share my sexual values. Neither of them treats sex like it’s something special to be shared with someone you care about. I would never dare either of these guys. Ever. Ew.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 01:56 PM
8	Women insist that femininity is unfairly seen as inferior while they refuse any ideas about having power over men. There are women who do this, and men call them any number of horrible horrible names. “Whore”, “H03”, “trashy”, “slut”, “used up”, “run through”…. Im sure you know more names for women who treat men as interchangeable sexual objects. But you know that all of those names are deliberately degrading. Men don’t actually like women who see men as interchangeable— you all want to be the one special dude to her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 01:52 PM
16	Women insist that femininity is unfairly seen as inferior while they refuse any ideas about having power over men. is an entire kink category that is centered around women's feminine self having a sort of alluring "soft" power Oh wow, one whole kink out of thousands? There’s also entire kink categories about using knives, rape, balloons, ball gags, orgies, feet, cantaloupe… anything you can imagine, there’s a kink for it. Saying women’s power is that there’s a niche kink fetishizing community that play-acts an alternate universe where women are in charge of everything is just ludicrous as evidence that women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 01:49 PM
4	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy Men do have a monopoly on having penises. That is also not a monopoly. A monopoly is a market structure where a single company or entity is the sole provider of a specific good or service, with no viable substitutes. Neither gender can even remotely be described as a “single company or entity”. Women are not a unified corporation, and neither are men. Women and men are individual actors in a very large free market where there is a ton of competition. If you do not get your breeding with one woma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 01:38 PM
5	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy But for other things you don't have a monopoly Fully half the population having the equal ability to do something is, by its very definition, not a monopoly. It’s like saying men have a monopoly on having penises… all 4 billion of them each have a monopoly. You’re using that word monopoly to try to pretend “women” are all one singular collective capitalist unfair-owner of the means of production… as if it is deeply unfair that they’re just regular people who each make their own choices about the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 11:41 AM
4	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy I've known many mothers who'd prefer, with every fiber of their being, to gestate rather than use an artificial womb, and who'd have an identity crisis if they had to use an artificial womb instead of gestating the traditional way. Why… would anyone “have to” use an artificial womb? Do you think the invention of artificial wombs would mean all women would be automatically forcibly sterilized at gunpoint? Why would that make any sense ever?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 11:35 AM
3	Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility. Because men most of the time arent the selectors So men have no agency and they are forced to chase after evil women and have no self control? If an abusive evil woman came up to you and offered you sex, you’d just be forced to accept. Lol, this must be that “male accountability” I keep hearing so much about from red pillers! 🤣 It must be sad to be so helpless and incapable of making moral decisions while demanding so loudly that every woman on earth should be a perfect angel so you don’t ever h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/26 11:50 AM
2	The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men. Being red pilled doesn’t mean that you cannot fall in love with a woman and form a bond with her that will last a lifetime. Red pill tells you to kill your “oneitis”, to never get married, and that women are worthless stupid evil trash. And it tells you that all women are good for is their very temporary looks. So… no, there’s no room for love in that philosophy. The red pill’s purpose is to help prevent men from getting hurt or used by manipulative women. “AWALT”, remember? Red Pill’s purpose i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/26 11:37 AM
2	The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men. You keep lumping me in with “all men” Lol, no, I definitely do not think “all men” are psycho youth obsessed weirdos like red pillers always claim all men are. I thought it was pretty clear that I was criticizing red pill men very specifically, considering I specified that repeatedly… but I guess even with that absolutely simple easy to read clarification, you still conjured up some “all men” whatever inside your head. What was the basis of you to assume that I would divorce my wife if she grows…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/26 01:22 AM
2	The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men. I’m 99% sure you would never consider dating or marrying a crippled guy Depends. Women are not men. But I certainly wouldn’t ever be such a nasty smug asshole at him as you guys are to women: I wouldn’t tell him that he’s worthless, like you do to women for the crime of simply not killing themselves before they hit the wall, lol. And dude, I am 100% sure I wouldn’t consider that dude because I’m married and not a cheater. Maybe cheating is the way you red pill dudes get around being stuck with y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/26 12:08 AM
2	Sex is a reward (and men know it) This comment seems to be completely unrelated to my comment above it. Did you reply to the wrong comment or copy paste the wrong thing or something?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 07:45 PM
1	The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men. “The wall” is how Red Pill men express that they don’t want anyone long term. They only want a rotating harem of young interchangeable women, not a long term intimate relationship with a woman who ages with them. They are telling you very frankly that they are not capable of love. It is a sad handicap, but they like to brag about it for some weird reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 07:43 PM
2	The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men. Then there are virginal women who reach 30 and are still very desirable and respectable Lol, from experience, I promise you dudes like you do not respect or value women like that. Red Pillers just auto-assume they are sluts anyways and call them ugly, disgusting, old, and unfeminine. Regardless of their sexual history. You tell yourself this as virtue signaling … but you do not actually respect or desire any real human women who meet that criteria.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 07:37 PM
2	The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men. Men are mostly attracted to youthful appearance. If what he picks you for is your youthful appearance, he’s going to dump you when that fades. All you’re telling women is to never ever count on a long term relationship. A woman’s youth is far better spent dedicating herself to setting up long term earning potential than to impressing a man with her inevitably temporary looks. Look at Megan Fox for example. She used to be the most beautiful woman on the planet, but now even any average college ch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 07:31 PM
2	The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men. And then once she hits the 30, she suddenly has an epiphany self awareness after witnessing all her friends getting married or had kids around that age If she’s 30 and single, but she is freaking out because all her friends are already married and have kids… … wouldn’t that kinda obviously suggest you’re hyperfocusing on a small minority of women who aren’t desired by men? If most women are getting married and having kids in their late 20s, what is your obsession with the exceptions who don’t fi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 06:31 PM
2	Sex is a reward (and men know it) You could try dating virtuous women instead of chasing exclusively after looks, too. But you have no interest in “rewarding” women for anything. If women are just “rewards”, according to your description, they shouldn’t get any “reward” themselves for good behavior anyways… and according to your description, a virtuous man is not a reward for her. It’s a one-sided thing you set up in your head, not a reality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 05:14 PM
–	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? Hard environments makes people tough and strong, comfortable ones makes people weak and soft Tough environments do not necessitate treating your wife like property? In places where women’s (everyone’s) labor is much more critical to survival… you think that’s when men most want to beat them and treat them like cattle? I don’t see why that would make any logical sense. it's mostly ideological and moral than anything. I don’t agree that money and resources inherently makes people more moral. Plent…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 05:11 PM
2	Sex is a reward (and men know it) You think it is reality that… women exist to reward men for good behavior and that sex is analogous to a a gold star or blue ribbon or a cash bounty? Like I said before— a man who thinks that way is never going to be good at sex. And you’re just plain wrong, because those “rewards” don’t agree with you that they are just prizes to be won. In actual reality, where most humans live, women are people with agency who make choices based on their own desires. It is incredibly self-centered to imagine …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 03:00 PM
2	If you think “husband material” is an insult so is “wifey material” "Wife material" means "I am not only extremely attracted to you physically, but I also see you as a kind, honest person who I can trust and want to spend my life with. And if we had met earlier it would have been even better". No, to Red Pill men, casual sex is their ultimate desire. and marriage is a desperate loser fail state you get stuck with. For Red Pillers (and a lot of men who seek casual sex), “wife material” means “you’re my boring fall-back plan I’ll settle for becasue I couldn’t get …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 12:50 AM
2	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? It's the same reason why afghan men and others didn't do it, another pratical reason is that rich civilization can afford giving women equal rights. But why is it that treating women like human beings instead of livestock is a luxury reserved only for the extremely affluent? It does not logically follow that lack of money means women should be treated like shit. Like, I agree that seems to be somewhat of a modest correlation in the modern era… but that really isn’t true across all places and tim…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 11:13 PM
10	So do you all agree that women as a group are exempt from criticism in the dating context? 33rd through 79th percentiles being grouped together is… a choice. Like, if 33rd percentile men are getting 7 partners during their lifetime, then ya’ll are whining a whole lot about nothing. They’re not incels. Average men are average. Like boohoo, you have to grow up sometime and accept that you’re not ever gonna be a billionaire too. Men don’t treat me like the most beautiful woman on earth either, dude. I have absolutely zero desire to ever date a man who sees fucking 100+ women as the bare …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 12:48 PM
2	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? For countries in wars or with a significant poverty, it's hard to sit down and think about the rights of minorities I agree with that… but then why is the automatic default always “men are special and important, and women are nothing but their lowly servants”? being a woman in conditions where high birth rates and phisical strength are a must, that doesn't don't put them in a position of power. Why though? Is birth and childrearing not critically important to society? Why is it not a position of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 12:35 PM
3	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? So when I consider equal relationships, I consider individuals who have the least differences in experiences. Literally every person alive as different experiences. Everyone. I don't think it's meaningful to stress something that is inherent to all humans. My argument states that men and women CAN have equal relationships, and that technology creates this equality by limiting the amount of influence that our biological structures have on our outcomes in life. Apologies, then. I misunderstood wha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 01:27 AM
2	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? They absolutely weren't slaves, but just because they weren't slaves doesn't mean that they weren't considered property in the west. No, you’re allowed to destroy and/or kill your own property. You weren’t allowed to equivalently destroy your wife. You also could not buy her or sell her on a market, like you could your property. Men actually had real legal obligations to their wives, limited though those were, which they did not owe to their things. Women were not considered property in the west…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 09:03 PM
1	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? Cya, rude boy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 08:45 PM
2	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? Men are ethical because they choose to participate in the democratic machinery Meaningless tautology. “Men choose to participate in democracy because they chose an ethical belief system that says they should participate in democracy.” Women then vote on it Democracies existed for well over a century before granting women the right to vote. Obviously lots of men who supported democracy did not support democracy for women. Supporting democracy for rich land owners did not require, nor did it desir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 06:16 PM
2	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? It’s not as simple as all those people hate women while the Western man was so egalitarian. I don’t mean to imply this, or to claim that western men are uniquely wonderful or something. But likewise, I think it’s hard to claim that sharia law is egalitarian in most Islamic states where it is practiced. There’s a number of fairly wealthy nations that practice sharia law, and no, those countries do not use their wealth to empower women. And for the context of this subreddit… well, the argument put…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 06:13 PM
–	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? Oh, sweetie, that was never the plan 😉 I don’t appreciate your sneering condescension. I have zero interest in discussing anything with someone being so bratty and disrespectful. I said absolutely nothing that should offend you, and you came out guns-a-blazin’ to belittle me. No thanks, broski.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 06:01 PM
1	Sex is a reward (and men know it) Problem is youre shallow and youre not seeing it. Oh no, personal insults! Whatever will I do?!? I shall fetch my fainting couch! Like dude, don’t ask me personal questions and then turn around and call me a fucking idiot because I didn’t give you the answer you wanted to hear. What’s the point of even asking me a question if you already decided for yourself that I’m a whore for any dude who wins a blue ribbon? Ofc youd react to a hot person, but if you saw that hot person failing to execute on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 02:22 PM
3	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? I agree it’s not a simple answer. I was interested in seeing some different ideas and thoughts in a discussion, rather than just passively listening. Duh.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 01:54 PM
5	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? Hhmmm yeah, having all western women become communist defectors over the prospect of equal rights would have been a serious catastrophe for non-soviets, lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 01:53 PM
2	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? Women’s rights is just one part of the greater “equal rights” movement - all people created equal and deserving equal opportunities. This is a good point! Although I’ll also push back— why is that movement not more global and universal? Why didn’t it start 1000 years ago… or 10,000 years ago? If you believe in Democracy, that everyone gets a say in what affects them, it become increasingly difficult to support inequality. I agree… but then the question becomes: why is democracy a western value, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 01:52 PM
2	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? I was under the impression that the basis for western civilization has been through the marriage, in which the woman becomes property of the man. They even take the man's last name because it signifies her as being the husband's property. For the most part, wives were not slaves in the west. There is an incredibly huge gap in how men treated their wives versus how they treated their slaves. And legally, wives did have significantly better rights than slaves. For example, it was totally legal in …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 01:39 PM
2	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? Because western men are actually moral and ethical and want cooperative relations with women. Why do you believe this? As in, what is the possible reason for why this could even possibly be the case? Like, there are tons of non-western men who come to western countries and become westernized. Do you think that western men who move abroad automatically become less moral, less ethical, and begin to eschew cooperative relationships in favor of contentious, domineering ones? If bad, antisocial men s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 01:26 PM
3	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? From a purely economic perspective, the liberalization of women means more workers and consumers, which grows the economy. So in other words, from your perspective, it is economic pressures that enabled (and drove) women to leave the home, rather than a cultural motivation, where western men decided to liberate men because they were nicer. Yeah, I tend to agree with that. I think feminism itself largely happened as a result of the change of the economy: machines were taking women’s in-home jobs …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 01:18 PM
2	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? That’s true, the west is hyperindividualistic, and that likely plays some role. And good response. I agree western enlightenment ideals pushed for more personal freedoms… but then… why did they catch on in the west, but those same ideals haven’t really taken hold in some other cultures? It was a big cultural shift for westerners too. And if a decline in sexism is just a cultural thing, is it just random, and if we rolled the dice again starting in, say, the year 1400, maybe it would be Cameroon …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 12:44 PM
3	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? I think this is a very thoughtful answer, and I agree with it overall. I think women’s economic productivity in the financial economy is largely what drives female liberation and freedom. Whenever women’s labor has value in a way that people outside the home can consume, women have more freedom and more participation in society. Women’s labor in the home, in contrast, seems not to contribute to women having any say in the greater society. And I’ll also agree that education did change things for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 12:30 PM
2	Sex is a reward (and men know it) It’s not about feels. I just don’t get how you think I’m making assumptions when the guy literally said why he asked was because he thinks most women are hypocrites on the subject.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 01:06 AM
2	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? I agree that men usually do love their own wives and daughters, but presumably they do even in the worst sexist shit holes of the world and in history. But why would the gap between decent loving men and hateful sexist shits be so vast in different countries? It doesn’t seem likely that it’s just random chance, considering how stable these cultures are over time. Or is it just chances where an unusual random surge in trash shit men ruin it for everyone, and then there’s a ton of momentum behind …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 01:05 AM
1	So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways? That’s a reasonabl thought, but I’ll push back on it. Western civilization has been relatively permissive of women for a pretty long time. In particular, western women were generally not forced into marriages against their will and had some limited rights and protections well before technology like the pill. For example, the feminist movement kicked off in the mid 1800s and women earned the right to vote in 1920 in the US… I don’t think I’ve seen anyone claim that women of the 1910s were “outsou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 01:02 AM
9	Sex is a reward (and men know it) So do the absolute most rotten women. For example, men all ofer this sub are apparently deeply sad that the totally immoral and insane women who chase after serial killers won’t be their beloved little waifu and raise their kids to be serial killers themselves. The reality is that it is silly to expect all women to live their whole existence to serve as morality prizes. Like, you know men don’t do that for women— absolutely evil, cruel, awful women will still find themselves adored by loads of m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 12:50 AM
2	Sex is a reward (and men know it) Asking probing questions to see someone's thought process does not automatically mean someone is trying to argue in bad faith. No asking a probing open ended question doesn’t automatically have to be bad faith. But a question based in the premise of “most of you people are either dishonest hypocrites or don’t know what that word even means” is bad faith. Which is exactly what he said he question was based on. Youre trying to gaslight at this point. There I no reason for you to be this passionate…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 12:34 AM
1	Sex is a reward (and men know it) They asked for clarity because their default assumption was that i am just like all those other women he thinks are hypocrites, and he wanted to check and catch me being a hypocrite too. It was not a neutral question out of curiosity. It was a “you said this, but i question whether you’re actually sincere” question.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 11:29 PM
1	Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men. Your argument is still fundamentally wrong, but yes, I am aware that your post was actually just about declaring men superior and complaining that women won’t bow down in gratitude.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 11:26 PM
2	Sex is a reward (and men know it) Yeah, I tend to be unreceptive the idea that it's possible to have a happy, supportive, healthy relationship when you use sex as leverage to manipulate the other person. Call me whatever you want for that. I still think that's a recipe for a toxic, resentful relationship. And a dead bedroom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 06:48 PM
1	Sex is a reward (and men know it) No, I mean he directly said that, if you'll actually read his responses. He said this directly: I notice some women here say they want equality but expect men to pay for dates which is a double standard... it is important when someone throws words around to make sure it means the same thing or at least understand what the word means Questioning whether what I asserted is a lie or if I'm just too stupid to know the meaning of the words I said ... is absolutely an accusation of bad faith.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 06:46 PM
1	Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men. The only thing keeping you safe right now, at this very moment, is a prosocial systemic network of decent men around you, in a very real way. And at the same time men are the only realistic threat of violence around me. Even some of the men you call "decent" are actually only masquerading as decent, and are really a dangerous threat that you give cover to. Do you seriously, unironically, believe that making all decent men disappear and leaving only the vile antisocial actors would render the wor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 06:43 PM
6	Sex is a reward (and men know it) >Does your body and brain react differently when around men who won in their competitions compared to those who lost? uh, my body and brain reacts differently around men I am attracted to. I really honestly do not care if some dude wins a bowling competition if he's not hot. Honestly, some of you make it pretty clear that having sex itself is more about "winning" against other men than about enjoying sexual intimacy. Women tend to care a lot less about men's silly dick measuring competitions tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 06:28 PM
–	Sex is a reward (and men know it) I think there is no reason for you to make personal comments about my relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 06:24 PM
4	Sex is a reward (and men know it) >Men are basically told since adolescence that being unable to attract any women sexually is a personal and moral failure. People are told a lot of wrong and dumb things. It is easily observable in real life that women do not "reward" good behavior with endless casual sex and it is also directly observable that some really terrible people are able to have sex in spite of being evil rotten pieces of shit. >which means the corollary is being a good person who does deserve it, aka they earned it by…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 06:22 PM
4	Sex is a reward (and men know it) It is not pragmatic to objectify myself for the gratification of others. I don't know what to tell you-- it makes no logical sense for people to regard themselves as existing merely to serve the pleasure of others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 06:14 PM
14	Sex is a reward (and men know it) And yet it is profoundly beyond the ability of quite a number of men on this subreddit who insist that a woman should be a trophy given to them for moral behavior. And it’s clearly not part of OP’s framework. 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 03:54 PM
2	Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men. It matters because an honest sociological analysis requires looking at the full picture under a lens of realism I disagree with you that it is logical or realism to oppose any and all critiques of of male violence, or that it is logical to worship men merely because they could beat us to death. There is no logic in performing an action or saying empty untrue words that have no effect on the world just because you want women to praise men for violence. According to your argument, women do not mak…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 03:52 PM
6	Sex is a reward (and men know it) And if you don’t provide her any incentive (like pleasure), she has no reason to fuck you. If sex for a dude is nothing but a one-sided reward that women are supposed to hand out to men to incentivize them to clean their room and shit… well, that sounds like a guaranteed path to a dead bedroom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 03:40 PM
13	Sex is a reward (and men know it) You dont like the idea of being a throphy, but nature already made it so winners evoke attraction So your view is that women do not, and cannot win. That sex is a loss for women. Ok. There’s a reason a lot of women are picky about who they have sex with— most women actually don’t want to fuck a dude who thinks it’s her job to provide pleasure and it’s just “natural” that she doesn’t deserve pleasure in return. You can squeal about natural all you want, but the natural reality is that women have …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 03:38 PM
6	Sex is a reward (and men know it) Because a reward is one-sided. When you get a trophy for doing well in a race, you don’t also give the trophy-givers their own trophy. If the sex for him is the reward for good behavior, it’s a prize for him given to him in exchange for something else he already did. Him believing the sex is a reward for him for his good behavior means he believes sex is for him. It’s not a reward for her— she’s the one giving out the prize. Words have meanings.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 02:26 PM
5	Sex is a reward (and men know it) “Do you [do this bad thing that a lot of other women on here do]? I just wanna check to see if you’re a hypocrite too”… is asking in bad faith. He admits to asking for that reason. Theres no hypocrisy here. I’m accusing him of the thing he said he did.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 02:23 PM
10	Sex is a reward (and men know it) I really also strongly dislike the analogy comparing a romantic relationship with an imbalanced employer-employee relationship. Ew. Like, do you see your wife/girlfriend as your boss and yourself as an employee? But, if you still really want to go with that analogy… well, if you are rewarded for your hard work with a raise, it does actually mean you’re not gonna pay back your boss with equal money. In the case of sex in a relationship, one-sided reward sex is one-sided. The “trophy” isn’t gettin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 01:54 PM
6	Sex is a reward (and men know it) I asked because I did not assume anything in the first place, I notice some women here say they want equality but expect men to pay for dates which is a double standard This is actually asking in bad faith— you asked the question because you thought it was highly likely I held this double standard, and you were hoping you could catch me and call me out on it. it is important when someone throws words around to make sure it means the same thing or at least understand what the word means This is a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 01:34 PM
7	Sex is a reward (and men know it) Who said anything about him treating you like shit? You are the one insisting a relationship should be this one-sided performance, where the man performs specific tasks or spends a specific amount of money on her, and then she owes him a sexual debt in return. It’s prostitution you’re describing, not a caring loving relationship between two people who genuinely enjoy each other’s company. Also it is so gross that you use the nasty red pill language “tinglies” to mock the very idea of a woman enj…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 01:26 PM
8	Sex is a reward (and men know it) Yes. Although it’s kind of a moot point since I’m married and we both just kind of dump our paycheck in a joint account. But why are you asking me an accusatory question like I’m on fucking trial here? I’m arguing against OP’s position in a debate— This is not about me. So why did you automatically assume things you clearly think are negative about me? What is your purpose in asking me this question? Were you trying to “gotcha” me with some bad faith nonsense?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 01:16 PM
8	Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility. Because women are the selectors. and choose which men gets acess to sex and children. So men have no agency and are incapable of refusing sex with a woman. No matter how evil she is, you’re free of guilt if you decide to fuck her or pursue her, because men are innocent little lambs who cannot do anything for themselves and they’re never responsible for their own choices. What a total steaming load of self-serving hypocrisy. bad men are responsible for being bad men, but they should have been inc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 01:14 PM
17	Sex is a reward (and men know it) Ok, and the fact that you could die in childbirth makes it even stupider for women to treat sex like it’s a “reward” or to date men who treat it as frivolously as a stupid little gold star, lol. You’re stating yourself that sex is serious important business that can result in a child. Sex is not a “good boy” pat on the head a man gets for doing the right tricks, it’s a huge potential lifelong investment in children. And it’s something women always took seriously. Even today, sex can be more than…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 01:00 PM
17	Sex is a reward (and men know it) Don't act like one you won't be treated like one. Lol, dude, I don’t act like a “trophy”, and I wasn’t fishing for your advice.This is a debate post, and I’m debating the OP. Get it together, son. Besides, it’s rude of you to offer unwanted, unneeded advice… especially when the advice is attempting to be an insult. But seriously, I can’t control men or brainwash them into thinking right, anyways. Men are their own people and have their own thoughts, and no amount of me acting however you say I’m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 12:54 PM
143	Sex is a reward (and men know it) Ugh, I hate the view of sex as a reward for men. That kind of thinking is a great excuse for men to be shit at sex. It’s a reward for them, and she’s just providing it… in that logic, her enjoyment doesn’t matter. She’s just supposed to offer sex as a good-boy prize regardless of her own wants and needs. Hard pass. I hate the idea of being a fucking trophy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 12:26 PM
12	Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility. Why isn’t the same true for men? Why doesn’t the responsibility for leaving bad women unselected fall on men? Where is the accountability when it comes to bad women? I know you think lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of women are bad, so why don’t you blame men for choosing them? Edit: to put it in a different way… these women you call immoral for dating the wrong men. You are saying they are very bad immoral women themselves. So why do you want those women to date at all? By your own arg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 12:15 PM
–	TikTok Has Become Gender War Slop. I understand. Even when you have exactly zero evidence or reason to think that, it’s probably best for to assume women are the root of all evil, hmm?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 11:52 AM
2	Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men. It obviously matters a little to you since you posted. And if your question is structural, then take mine to be too: why would it matter, structurally, to society? If women can so easily be relegated to the lowly role of “currency” or “property”, then what is the relevance of worrying about whether they are appreciative of men’s violence or not? Like, if every woman on earth obediently thought exactly the way you want them to think (where you claim that appreciation and admiration are the only p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 11:50 AM
6	Is it true that most women don't enjoy getting pounded during sex? It seems to boggle your mind that a dude might lie about his experiences to brag about being the world’s greatest stud, lol. Like, he’s decided in his mind that any woman who doesn’t love exactly what he wants to do them is automatically lying. Seems fairly self-serving to believe that… but I guess you’re easily convinced by some dude bragging online about how the women he fucked said they didn’t like it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/26 05:30 PM
5	Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men. And according to OP, women have nothing to do with whether women are treated better or worse—according to his argument, women are not physically strong enough to enforce good treatment from men. Do you think women in Afghanistan somehow caused the men there to treat them so fucking horribly by being misandrists? Do you think western women are, as you so clearly and disrespectfully describe it, “allowed to be mouthy” because those same women are respectful and kind and have earned the respect of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/26 03:33 PM
4	Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men. Just no one takes it seriously, people look at women like 5 year old harmless kids when they’re not. OP does not take women seriously. His whole argument is that women are too weak and ineffectual to do anything, and that, in his words, “…Without this male-supported safety net, society would instantly collapse into historical barbarism where women might as well be treated as currency or property.” Since when do the thoughts and words of your property have any effect on anything? If you have a pr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/26 03:24 PM
10	Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men. Nowhere have I argued that women don't matter or that civilization owes nothing to them It is the core of your thesis that it is illogical for women to criticize male behavior, because it is men who are more capable of violence and built everything. You say yourself: The very luxury to treat male power as a monolith of pathology—or to comfortably contemplate hypothetical debates like "Man vs. Bear"—exists only because this baseline male infrastructure is constantly keeping the wolves at bay. Wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/26 01:13 PM
9	Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men. The argument is purely structural, not psychological: it is a critique of a mainstream sociological framework that feels entirely comfortable pathologizing the male demographic as a whole And my point is that, according to your own arguument… none of that matters one bit. You say that male physical strength is the driving force in the world and that men have done everything good and that men have all the real power to protect or destroy… In other words, people saying mean words does not change t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/26 12:38 PM
20	Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men. Misogyny and misandry are both morally wrong… but your very debate post points out extremely clearly that they have wildly different consequences. Your very point is that, when women express hatred of men, it’s nothing but ineffectual words. A fart in the wind. According to your argument, women are incapable of doing anything. In contrast, men can (and have!) caused extreme harm to women many many times in history and around the globe. Men didn’t need any misandry to inspire them to fuel the mas…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/26 11:45 AM
–	Why do many men find a clumsy, socially awkward, maladjusted woman acceptable for casual sex, but women don’t? “Ruthlessly and despicable”… to describe any woman who doesn’t just flop on the ground and strip off her pants for literally every man on earth. 🤣	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/26 02:51 PM
2	Are men justified in hating women? Yeah again, not AS MUCH. The male only draft wasnt invented in the fucking 70s, it's how EVERY society worked. So it’s a competition for you. You want more women dead to even the odds. I oppose the deaths of those men and those women. I oppose war. I also cannot stop it. I also do not do those things— I have never murdered anyone, yet you blame me and insult me for it anyways. Your message is perfectly clear though, while you play pointless oppression Olympics. While I agree that the murder of m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/26 03:22 PM
1	Are men justified in hating women? So were black men viewed as "innocent" when they were lynched and hung for sleeping with white women? You really wanna race-bait to make a wrong point? Racism isn’t the same as sexism, and it never was. But since you think they’re the same thing, please tell the class in history you think women organized together to put all men in chains? Black men were also lynched over accusations of stealing a white man’s property, and also over going to their own churches, and over going to public schools, a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/26 02:54 PM
2	Are men justified in hating women? Women were told "you cannot teach or have any authority," men were slaughtered more. Those men slaughtered women and children and cattle as well. Your wild belief that women were spared in war is childish. Women have always been slaughtered and brutalized in war. Read up about the rape of Nanking, for example. The women of the city were raped to death with bayonets… and infant children were speared too. Your idea that women just lived pampered lives through all of history is deeply flawed. And i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/26 01:26 PM
2	Are men justified in hating women? and it ties back into how slut shaming is basically a mark against men and not women, Dude, slut shaming is a condemnation of the woman. The “stud” is innocent. The Bible teaches equally that men and women are born with sin and are each dirty and filthy and guilty inherently. And regardless of that equality of sin, it still positions men as above women in spirituality and morality. if you think any of this trumps men dying more than women when the religion is followed Everyone dies. Literally 10…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/26 01:15 PM
2	Are men justified in hating women? Sorry for the double post, but adding this in because it shows you don’t really understand the religion you are talking about hence Jesus didn't have original sin because he was conceived immaculately The term Immaculate Conception does not refer to the birth or conception of Jesus. I mean it. Look it up. This is the Catholic doctrine. Immaculate Conception refers to the birth of Mary— it is the belief that original sin of humanity was cleansed from Mary from the moment of her birth, by God, in …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/26 12:06 PM
2	Are men justified in hating women? YES, which means that women had the privilege of slipping under the radar. YES. that is what MRAs have been trying to scream at you, And yet when men are ignored, it is the greatest most evil crime in the whole universe. if you want women never treated as criminals And what the fuck is this? Where do you think I said that “women should never be treated as criminals”? You think I think women who murder should be pardoned because you made up stupid bullshit and put those words in my mouth. You are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/26 11:54 AM
–	Are men justified in hating women? And God AND Satan are BOTH male, Because women didn’t matter at all. They were narratively beneath anyone’s regard.. They were just useless stupid servants of the deceiver. Dumb temptresses that lead men astray, but have no worth in their own right. In addition, Satan isn’t part of the Bible. And while God is framed as “the Father”, he is also not exactly considered Male, either. “He” is referred to with male pronouns, but is considered to be a spiritual being that is beyond the pathetic limitat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/26 12:42 AM
2	Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit? I get that abstract thinking is a challenge for BP brains. But follow me here. Pathetic. Personal insults for disagreeing with your faulty logic and inability to discuss honestly. 🙄 You still owe me either a quote or an apology for your false accusations. I have asked for your quote of where you think I claimed “women are morally better” twice now and you have refused, only to throw trashy insults at me. It is a total waste of time to try to debate someone who just puts lies in your mouth to arg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/26 11:38 PM
2	TikTok Has Become Gender War Slop. I mean… that’s how numbers work. Something with 2 million views does indeed have more views than something with 0 views. Not sure why you’re confused.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/26 09:06 PM
2	Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit? Ok, but your ability to effectively use a gun (not be overpowered) is less- this is part of the reason women choose to use guns less. Wrestling a man is not required to commit murder. Women are also perfectly capable of planning out a murder to shoot a man at an effective distance away. In fact, most murders with guns are not committed in close combat— men do not usually shoot each other during wrestling matches either. The real strength of a gun is precisely that it allows you to kill at a long…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/26 08:07 PM
–	Are men justified in hating women? No, it's more "women who believe in blaming genders for shit," but we can throw men who believe in blaming other men for shit too. I am not a member of either of these groups. I oppose both of those groups. Lot's daughters were not blamed for incestiously fee-raping him They actually were blamed by religious figures later? Women were deemed wicked and uniquely weak and easily tempted to do evil for millenia, actually. And don’t forget, lot’s wife was turned to a pillar of salt… for merely turnin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/26 07:48 PM
3	TikTok Has Become Gender War Slop. The most popular video of all time (so far) on YouTube Baby Shark has 16 BILLION views. That’s double the human population of earth. So… no, a few million really is not all that much. About thousand times less popular than “do dooo do doo do doo”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/26 07:37 PM
10	TikTok Has Become Gender War Slop. feminism by almost two centuries. … and treating women like inferiors in religion and culture started centuries before that, with men writing lots of negative things about women and women’s place in the world. We just don’t have a lot of comparable writings from women to see how they felt about men in return. I’m sure there must have been at least a few women who didn’t particularly like being viewed as the trash gender that ruined everything in the original mythologies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/26 06:16 PM
–	Are men justified in hating women? Because your group is starting it, What’s is “my group” exactly? Is this another “you people”? I am a woman. Clearly you blame me for the actions of others because I am the same gender as them. You are thinking of women as nothing more than ‘dumb bitch collective’. according to your own admission via the paragraph above this one I do not see where I accepted this blame you’re trying to dump on me? Becasue I don’t think women “started it”. The earliest example I personally know about involves men…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/26 06:11 PM
1	Are men justified in hating women? I am not demonizing all women. You are saying you should. That is promoting demonization of women. That is obviously not the outcome I want tho Sure sounds like it is when you also say: “Are men not justified in also wanting to form a "team man" who sees women as the enemy?” You excuse one, you excuse the other. You act as if misogyny never existed before the invention of TikTok, lol. Those women you hate are retaliating to misogyny and think exactly like you do! And you want to retaliate in kin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/26 12:50 AM
1	Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit? ??? I agree people can be overpowered at close range. Women are not being prevented from owning guns or shooting them because men are wrestling them from women’s hands, dudes. Lmao indeed. 🤡	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 08:24 PM
-1	Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit? BUT if women are equally capable of violence I said that women are equally physically capable of pulling a gun trigger as men. That is factually true. I did not say that men and women have equal physical capacity for all violence. Obviously women are usually smaller and almost always weaker than almost all men. but just becaude theyre morally superior (TM) dont commit violence Quote where you think I argued women are “morally superior”. Because I didn’t say that, and I don’t believe that. Don’t …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 08:23 PM
3	Are men justified in hating women? Bro most people spend a significant amount of time on social media and at this point online misandry is so common its unavoidable. So? Online misogyny is also so common it’s unavoidable. You are promoting it yourself right here. Why do you celebrate the same toxic behavior you condemn? “Common online” does not mean all, or even a majority of women. It means your algorithm feeds you the hate shit you click and consume endlessly. On top of that you got Sabrina Carpenter making songs like man child…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 07:50 PM
8	Are men justified in hating women? It prevents you from having to go to war. Women were traditionally part of the war train in European military campaigns, cooking and cleaning and providing other support (including the sexual support red pill men say is so critical for male well-being). And they got murdered and raped in war whether they helped or not. They just weren’t suited up and armed. You get to leave a sinking ship. Historically, that was actually exceptionally rare. The titanic is a very rare exception. Every man for him…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 06:02 PM
7	Are men justified in hating women? So you watched a few dumb TikTok’s while doom scrolling and decided that maybe you should hate all women for the words of some. Ok. If if you really think it’s so bad to hate a group of people as a collective based on the actions of a few, then why do you perpetuate that exact behavior? Why do you blame all women for the actions of a few? You doing exactly the thing you’re so mad about is at the very core of your argument— you fail at every turn to recognize women as individual humans. You were …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 05:55 PM
3	Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit? I do believe that if guns were such an equalizing force then women would not be in danger from men ever. Another mistaken belief. Why do you think that using guns would ever deter male violence? Men choose to use guns at far higher rates than women do, and yet men still attack men with violence… even at higher rates than they attack women! If gun use were an effective deterrent for male violence, then male gun ownership and usage would have already eliminated male violence. And you suggest that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 04:47 PM
2	Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit? Well, you’re getting your pride all hurt over the fact that shooting a gun is trivially easy and not actually something that men are just naturally physically superior at… but like seriously. Even tiny children can shoot a gun. It is trivially easy to do physically. Like actual human toddlers have gotten hold of guns and killed people with them. For example, here’s a 4 year old who shot and critically injured a 2 year old. There’s plenty of other cases, that’s just the first one I grabbed on Goo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 03:20 PM
5	Marriage rates declining is a good thing If my wife’s sense of identity and connection is stripped away by her taking my surname, then how secure was she in that identity or with that connection in the first place? Perhaps she had been taught her whole life that her name doesn’t matter. Just like you didn’t value her name or identity or family connections, maybe her family did not either. Looking into genealogy in my own patrilineal culture, that appears to be how women were viewed in general. It was apparently very important for our a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 02:16 PM
5	Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit? Again 2 pounds is so trivially light weight that there is no observable difference in capability. For reference, a newborn baby is typically 4 times the weight of that gun, and will keep getting bigger over time, yet you expect women to easily, trivially, be able to carry that weight all day and all night in their arms, even as their weight quadruples. There is no difference in physical ability when it comes to the ability to lift a gun or pull a trigger. Again, a woman defeated the very very be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 01:58 PM
5	Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit? I don’t particularly like people putting words in my mouth with shitty little gotcha questions that ignore the actual discussion to try to make a snotty point. I oppose the draft for men and women both. If it’s TRULY an existential threat, I agree the draft should be gender neutral… but I also know that politicians (who will never risk their own lives) are full of shit and will always find some way to pretend it’s an existential threat so they can throw away millions of men’s lives for their own…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 01:53 PM
4	Women need to cook I was just saying that you wouldn't have been a feminist woman, if you were born in a village deep in afghan. Did you know that there actually, in fact, are feminist women in Afghanistan? Even those born deep on rural villages? You should even know this: a recent Nobel peace prize winner was a girl born under the Taliban who was shot in the head for trying to promote girls reading. She too was a product of her environment. Why do you pretend that feminism isn’t normal? if you were born in a vill…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 01:33 PM
5	Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit? You have obviously never shot a gun if you think women are incapable of it. I have. I am telling you the strength required to operate a gun is fucking trivial. And no, the men committing the overwhelming majority of gun murders and other gun crimes are not carrying 100 pounds of anno and gear, lol. The most popular hand gun in the US is the Glock 19. It weighs, fully loaded, 1.88 pounds, or 0.88kg since you’re not American. It is trivially easy for women to shoot a gun. They just do not choose t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 01:05 PM
1	Women need to cook Yeah I mean I'm going be doing 100% of the childcare while totally taking a break from the workforce for 8-10 years until the youngest is in kindergarten So you won’t be working during that time and you would be doing a lot less work than OP says women should do. And honestly, why are you griping at me? My argument is that you should do what you want with your life. That you, as a man, should cook if you want to! OP is the one whining that ONLY women should cook and that you should not cook beca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 01:03 PM
7	Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit? Men and women are absolutely equally physically capable of pulling a trigger. I have fired a gun myself— it is physically easy for a woman. 80 year old women can shoot a gun. In fact, in 1992, before they separated women’s and men’s shooting events in the Olympics, a woman won the gold medal in mixed (that’s gender mixed) Olympic skeet shooting. If a woman can win at the Olympics facing off against men, then women are equally capable. The reason men commit wildly more gun violence isn’t because …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 12:39 PM
6	Marriage rates declining is a good thing men “working twice as hard as your grandpa to get a woman half as good as your grandma I also don’t buy that a red pill man thinks his real grandma actually is any “good”, lol. She’s still nothing more than just a lowly worthless female to red pillers. They love to jabber about the abstract concept of a “good woman”, but they never ever actually identify any real ones as being worthy of respect. If they met their grandma Xty-umpt years ago when she was youn, they’d have nothing but sneering scor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 12:08 PM
6	Marriage rates declining is a good thing Especially when we all share the commonality of a surname. For instance we are all known as The Rippers. Well why should women provide men with this “communal identity” by sacrificing her own name and family communal identity? Why does the man get to keep his familial connection, but he doesn’t have to form any communal connection to her family? Changing the woman’s name at marriage is far from culturally universal. As are all my brothers. Uncles. Cousins. Yeah, but just them, becasue the female…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 11:48 AM
6	Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit? Women are equally capable of pulling the trigger of a gun, yet still do this far less. Facts don’t support your feelings.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 11:19 AM
8	Women, have no right to get upset at their man talking to other women, if they themselves are posting their pics on social media, going to clubs/bars, and not dressing modestly in public, basically "advertising" themselves Ok, if you don’t want a girlfriend who goes clubbing and dresses hot and looks hot and is sexually appealing to men, then you should only pursue women who are boring, ugly and dress dumpy. But you will never ever choose boring Becky over a hotter women if you have the opportunity. You’d rather date a hot socialite then try to shame her into dressing like a Mennonite and uglying herself up… and then your eye will inevitably wander to the next hot woman you prefer over your now dowdy wife. How dep…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 01:01 AM
1	Women need to cook What are you talking about? I'm not talking about bossing him around or him bossing me aeround. What? His original post was telling all women everywhere that they need to cook and that women cannot cook. My original response was to tell him that actually, he doesn’t get to tell everyone what to do. And you were like “yeah he can!!!!”. Like ok, yeah, you can obey him if you want, but his screeching and screaming into the void of the internet isn’t gonna make women be the unappreciated kitchen ser…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 12:48 AM
8	Women need to cook Imagine you were born in Afghanistan, would you have been on reddit. Debating with a man? prolly not. Ah yes, the old “if you were in this dumb culture, I’d beat you to death for daring to speak out of turn, you dumb bitch” response. In Afghanistan, “it’s muh culture” is the excuse shit tier worthless men use when they execute their mothers and sisters for speaking out of turn. What a surprise you’d align yourself with those men in a conversation where you don’t like a woman talking to you and f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 11:15 PM
2	Women need to cook He abso-fuckin-loutley does if he earns more I mean, you can follow him obediently if you want, but he’s just some rando online. He has no ability to boss any of the rest of us around, lol. But sure, if you wanna submit to his authority, you can I guess 🤷‍♀️ just like my future wife gets to "tell me how to live my life" and tells me to get a fucking pot hot if she makes more and I am the stay at home dad like I hope to be. I think you should pick better than some disrespectful unappreciative bit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 11:05 PM
19	Women need to cook And lol, heaven forbid he ever like… talk to his mom. 😂 I just cannot imagine coming up with this many excuses to avoid taking care of myself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 04:03 PM
16	Women need to cook and men don't generally cook that much in our culture here. Yes, I agree some men fall back on “culture” and tradition so they can just dump 98% of the work on their wives while they lay around and spend their free time on their hobbies and having fun. Its just I want to leave the more complex house tasks for a woman to do. if you are both working full time, then dumping all the complex tasks on the other person is lazy and selfish. “But but muh culture” and “but I’m too stoopid to ever learn ho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 02:45 PM
20	Women need to cook This dude’s argument is just “weaponized incompetence: the reddit post”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 02:19 PM
18	Women need to cook I learned from my dad. Men can learn on their own, or even ask their mom/dad! You have a mouth and can ask questions. And oh, boo hoo, your hobbies don’t overlap with basic life skills? You just wanna dump all the work you don’t like on someone else while you can go do your fun hobbies. You sound like the kind of dude who thinks women’s hobbies are washing dishes and cleaning toilets 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 02:13 PM
6	Women need to cook You don’t get to tell people how to live their lives, Mr. bossy britches. In my family, most of the men have cooked. I personally also like to cook, but it’s my choice, not yours. 🤷‍♀️ Specialize in what you want to specialize in and marry someone compatible. Why would you want to force a woman who hates cooking and is totally uninspired by it to cook? Thats how you get those awful 1950s jello mold horror dinners. Plus. A lot of women like a guy who can cook. It’s a great date night activity to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 02:10 PM
2	Go bag and DNA tests are equivalent Yeah, I oppose mandatory testing in large part because it would enable a global DNA database and would violate privacy rights of innocent citizens. I just do not have that level of trust in the government… or future versions of it. I do, however, 100% support opt-in testing for men who have reason to believe they may be the father of a child. That should be cheap, legal, and easy to get (which is currently the case in the US).	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 12:23 PM
2	Would you leave this woman? that all women should respect their own boundaries before they even get to sex so they can leave before they get to the point that they need to defend themselves. They should… but for one thing, that’s sometimes not actually enough. But more broadly, you’re expecting people to read minds and have perfect social evaluation of others and understand subtle pre-indications as though rape and abuse are really the victim’s fault. In your argument, if only people were just vigilant enough about subtle …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 12:09 PM
2	Would you leave this woman? I’m speaking more generally than just about anal. Anal is definitely not for me (I will be happy to never try it!) but like… I honestly don’t care if other people wanna do it and there’s mutual consent. Like, the vagina has multiple exit functions too. 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/26 02:25 PM
1	Would you leave this woman? This is why I'm blackpill-adjacent; I consider myself Picard-pilled (You can do everything right and still lose) You know, I don’t consider that black-pill adjacent at all. It’s mature realism to understand that life really truly isn’t fair and that bad things happen to good people, and that you cannot protect yourself by just following all the rules or doing everything “right”. Like… when babies die of cancer or intestinal parasites or aid, what exactly did they do wrong? Believing in a just wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/26 01:16 PM
1	Would you leave this woman? Like if a guy doesn’t respect your boundaries before sex, it should be a clear indicator that he won’t respect them during it or after it. Agree. But in this conversation, we are talking about it from the point of view of the person pushing the boundaries, not the person with the boundaries. Yes the person with boundaries should run the fuck away or use violence (even deadly violence!) to defend themselves if they need to… but sometimes that’s not something they’re able to do. And they are not s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/26 11:59 AM
5	Would you leave this woman? Well, that does suck, sorry. Her actions prevented you from making an informed choice about your life, and her behavior sounds deceptive and cruel. The announcing part makes it sound planned… which is just super gross and anti-caring. I don’t think it’s related to the issue being discussed on this post (dudes being ok with knowingly choosing to date a sexually boring woman as long as she was always consistently boring, and only being unhappy about her lack of sexual performance if she used to be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 09:19 PM
2	Does your husband get any special treatment (sexually) that your exes didn't have access to? Or do they all get treated equally? Cool, thanks. Those all make sense! And yes, that makes sense as a clear example of “this thing I do with my wife is special and not like I treated my exes”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 04:34 PM
11	Does your husband get any special treatment (sexually) that your exes didn't have access to? Or do they all get treated equally? That’s a really generic and deflecting answer, honestly You asked a specific and very personal question to women to explain how we treat our husbands as special… can you answer the same question in the same spirit you originally asked it please? (Plus, sorry, but considering an awful lot of men would also try anything with basically any other random one night stand, too… that isn’t treating her as special.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 04:07 PM
15	Does your husband get any special treatment (sexually) that your exes didn't have access to? Or do they all get treated equally? Well, he’s the only sexual partner I’ve ever had… so it’s fairly braindead what he gets that nobody else gets. I do like to tease him that he’s way way hotter than anyone else I’ve ever been with. More clinically, I also have kids with him and no one else, so I think that’s pretty special One common thing you see men get salty about is when his wife doesn't want to try certain sexual acts with him, but she used to do them with all her exes. I think a lot more guys get salty about imagining this …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 03:37 PM
2	Would you leave this woman? Enforcement means leaving whenever a communicated boundary has been crossed. Or even at a boundary that’s past an absolute limit. Ok, but like, for butt stuff, her waiting until after she’s been raped seems a little late. It is not a “suggestion” when she says “I don’t want anal”, it is a clear unambiguous statement that crossing that boundary is actually rape. It’s not super complicated. Enforcing that boundary by leaving him doesn’t undo the wrong of the boundary being crossed. (Just for the r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 02:45 PM
3	Would you leave this woman? Its not settling. It is settling. What you want is a hot woman who does wild sex things with you… but instead you settle for this boring woman who doesn’t do the kind of sex you want and need to feel desired. How is it settling for her, when it is SHE who does not want to fully commit to being in sexual zone of a man and fulfilling all his little kinks and fetishes? She has a boundary that she cannot and does not want to cross. It is part of her personality and behavior— in this hypothetical, it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 02:31 PM
2	Would you leave this woman? I'm saying that the more tolerant a male is towards a woman's difference from her past and present the less said woman will be attracted towards him I have noticed exactly the opposite: The less tolerant a man is, the more he comes across as a boring stick in the mud, and the less attractive he will be. For example, men who are hyper-fixated on virgins are definitely not considered more attractive to most women than men who are flexible and understanding of the real world and life changes. And i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 11:40 AM
2	Would you leave this woman? No, because men have many kinks and ways of thinking about sex that women do not find appealing. So you are willing to settle for a woman you don’t like. Why should a woman want to be with a man who is obviously settling for her hard? I have been informed by many men here that being settled for is a unique and evil form of torture to men… yet here you are insisting that men constantly settle for women they don’t really like. and your not going to be able to have sex with her exactly as you would…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 11:30 AM
2	Would you leave this woman? I’m just going to say the quiet part out loud.. If you don’t enforce a boundary, it’s not a boundary, it’s just a suggestion. What counts as “enforcement” to you? Basically anything goes no matter what they say, unless they are physically capable of enforcing the boundary? Sounds awfully self-serving for the physically stronger person in a relationship. Like I’ll say the very obvious part out loud: “I’ll test sticking it in and unless she fights me off, her ‘no’ doesn’t matter” is rape. If this …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 11:27 AM
2	Would you leave this woman? I think the corollary that these guys are not going to like is that, if they ever ever once in their life, had a girlfriend without doing anal with her, that means they desired her the most of all, and that any time they want anal with a woman, it means they don’t really desire her. If they gave a prior girlfriend “their best” (a relationship without anal), then them asking for anal isn’t “their best”. Same logic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 01:01 AM
21	Would you leave this woman? This response is logical and makes perfect sense. I don’t get why a lot of guys here are complicating it so much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 12:55 AM
7	Would you leave this woman? So… a woman can tell how much a man likes her by how much he pushes her for anal and whatever else? If he is really and truly and deeply attracted to him, he will be happy to tolerate her having any boundaries she wants… but if he’s not that attracted to her, then he won’t tolerate her refusing sex acts she doesn’t want. Is that what you mean? Or in other words, if he’s asking for all this weird exotic stuff she doesn’t want to do, then would you say that means he’s not attracted to her?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 12:52 AM
3	Would you leave this woman? I'm less willing to stay with a person if they had an active dislike of what I'd like to do. I don't know why, I don’t know why you think yours is the weird response here. If you like something and it’s enjoyable to you, wouldn’t it be just settling to be with someone who won’t do that with you? Sure that’d be fairly reasonable with something extremely minor that you do enjoy but could take or leave… but if it’s something like a whole category of sex that you enjoy, like anal or oral or whatever…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 12:47 AM
6	Would you leave this woman? But I feel like I am a bit biased in that I don’t like butt stuff. So you don’t like butt stuff, but… But also I’d be curious how much you’d be willing to compromise, like can I just put the tip in tho? Huh???? Like, you don’t want to, but you just wanna cross a woman’s boundaries to see if you can push her over and pressure her into stuff she says she doesn’t like… for no reason except to pat yourself on the back for hurting her. Even if you get no pleasure out of it, it is important to you to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 12:37 AM
1	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. And I answered it. Already. You are being petulant because you don’t like the answer. Your claim is “women treat men with less favor based on some level, on how his sexual performance compares to prior experiences”. And my answer is “no, sexual comparison to past lover that plays little to no role for most women”. You can tell this is true because even total virgins will be bored and unsatisfied and unenthusiastic about sex with a dud, and they will dump him even with no prior experience to comp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 09:11 PM
3	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. if your partner has been masculine with all their previous partners but won't perform PIV sex with you Why do his previous partners matter at all to me in this scenario? I want PIV sex so I will not ever date this man period, regardless of his sexual history. I will not give him a chance just because he consistently also wasn’t desirable to me with other girlfriends in the past, lol. Why is the male desire dirty, evil, stupid and wrong, It is not. I just have my sexual preferences and I will not…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 08:16 PM
2	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. It looks like your question is “do women reject men solely based on comparison to past partners?” And since you couldn’t be bothered to try to read my longer more nuanced response, my simple answer is “generally no, they reject men based on whether they like him or not and whether he meets her standards. A virgin is just as likely to reject you (or dead bedroom you!) over shitty sex as a woman who has previously had sex with men who could actually give her an orgasm”. You just don’t like the ans…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 06:50 PM
3	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. You never considered how cause and effect works but instead feel Nope. That’s simply a perfect description of your response here. Nothing I said is about feelings— you just blasted me with some generic “women never think” claptrap without addressing my actual argument or logic. basically what women and children do You accuse me of.. whatever that was… based solely on who you assume I am. Thats what an ad hominem actually is, since you clearly do not know. An ad hominem attack means trying to dis…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 02:33 PM
5	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. Reacting to the words people write is how a debate sub is supposed to work. You wrote that women’s words regarding sex have no meaning and that you ignore what women say. That’s certainly not how the letter of the law works.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 02:23 PM
3	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. What women say literally has no meaning You sound like a member of the “no means yes” crowd. Maybe you should meditate on why you think exactly like a rapist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 12:53 PM
1	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. The only possible case I can think of is super specific: she used to love anal, but now she has hemorrhoids and it hurts and bleeds so she doesn’t want to do it with the next guy. I’ve never actually heard of a real example like this, even online, mind you. But it even fit OP’s imagined scenario either, where he’s fixated on the possibility of being somehow outdone or bested by some past dude.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 11:59 AM
6	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. women don’t treat men with less favor or leave men, A woman will leave you for mediocre or worse sex even if she was a virgin when she first fucked you. Why do you think a woman with no good experiences to compare to is gonna stick around for sex that sucks for her? And even if she does stick around… she’s not going to enjoy the sex or be enthusiastic about it because it isn’t actually fun or enjoyable. Even if your goal is to date a really really stupid woman… there’s not a lot of women so stup…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 11:52 AM
3	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. How am I agreeing with you? You think it is extremely important to differentiate between this one woman who isn’t enthusiastic and this other woman who isn’t enthusiastic: In both cases you're not getting the act. But the meaning is not the same. I’m saying: worrying about this totally and utterly pointless. The decision for you is the same don’t date either woman #1 or woman #2 for the exact same reason: she doesn’t meet your standards of making you feel desired. Thats it. It is much simpler lo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 11:43 AM
10	How attracted are you to a guy you “settled with” at age 30 compared to previous flings & relationships? because the guys you’re attracted to aren’t attracted to you any more So your question is really just projection: you cannot imagine being attracted to a woman over 30, so you project that disgust on women and assume they just become sterile, asexual zombies when they turn 30. It’s not that women are picking men they don’t like… it’s that you just don’t want a long term relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 12:07 AM
–	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. Scenario 1 is basically saying "this isn't something I like." Scenario 2 might be saying "this isn't something I want with you." Those aren't the same message and pretending they are is kind of dishonest. It is not dishonest. It is pointing out that you are willing to settle hard for a woman who does not meet your standards of what you think “enthusiasm” looks like, simply because well, at least she didn’t do what I want with someone else first. And when she finds out just how important it is fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 09:01 PM
1	Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant. Don't know how you came to that conclusion. You’ll notice I didn’t conclude that. I said “obviously not”. I asked the question because your original question frames the fact that she was enthusiastic with someone else as the key to why you wouldn’t marry this woman. When actually, whether she was enthusiastic with some other guy doesn’t matter at all: if she’s not enthusiastic enough with you, then you wouldn’t marry her no matter what. So why is it so important to add in the bolded part here? I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 08:47 PM
4	Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant. You keep reducing this to: “Do you want X? Are you getting X? If not, leave.” That is because that is 100% how I understand it. I cannot fathom settling for a relationship based on the fact that at least he made some other woman unhappy too. And on the other hand, if it’s something pointless that I don’t give a flip about, why is it important to me that he did this for another woman and not for me? Like if I don’t want him to buy me ice cream and chocolates every day, but his last girlfriend wan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 08:35 PM
1	Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant. If his answer to both is “no”, then why is it so important to tack on the “and she used to blah blah blah”? Let’s make it more abstract, I asked two questions here: A (thing you don’t want) and B (she never did it before)? A (thing you don’t want) and not B (she did that think you want before)? … because the guy I’m talking to was very explicit about asking how I would feel about 2. My point is… if A it’s important, then B does not matter either way. So why is he asking how I feel about question…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 08:20 PM
–	Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant. I'm not sure how the first 4 paragraphs have anything to do with the point OP and I were debating, The point is: why all this concern about “some other guy got what I wanted… so now I’m mad I don’t get what I want”? If you aren’t getting what you want in a relationship, why does it matter one bit about this other past boyfriend? Don’t settle for her even if she’s a virgin, dude! Don’t settle for someone who doesn’t please you even if she’s didn’t do it for someone else in the past. There are 2 o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 06:20 PM
1	How will we convince the next generation to have kids, even though almost none of us want to have any? Just to be clear: you will eagerly vote for millions of people to drown (islands and coasts flooded by rising oceans), starve (famine driven by drought and desertification), or die of heat stroke (pure extreme heat events)… due to results of decisions they had no part in. Do you also describe yourself as a “nice guy”?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 06:12 PM
–	Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant. If… you never ever took a woman to Maldives before and won’t ever do it now either, and my expectations in a relationship is that I want to go on exotic vacations with my boyfriend… why on earth would I settle for you? If I want to date a man who brings me flowers once in a while, and you’re a guy who never ever bought a girl flowers and you’ll never ever buy any for me either… why would I settle for you? If I want to date a man who would never pressure me to do anal, and you’re a guy who used t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 05:34 PM
–	Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant. I wouldn't marry a woman who was more enthusiastic to be with someone else than with me, point blank. But… you would marry a woman who was not enthusiastic with you even though she was also never enthusiastic with any other man first??? No, obviously not. Stop settling for boring women who don’t meet your standards just because “hey, at least some other guy didn’t get more out of her first”. Like seriously, have some self respect. If a woman doing XYZ is important to you, DO NOT SETTLE for a wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 05:26 PM
2	Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant. "if she makes you wait, and she doesn't make any other man wait, does she actually like you?" If she makes you wait, and you can only feel loved if she fucks you in the first 10 minutes of meeting you… then why are you wasting your time waiting on her? Why are you settling? I do not get why you are so desperately willing to settle for shit you don’t like and don’t want from a woman merely if she’s always annoying shit you don’t want. Whyyyyyy are you so determined to settle so hard for a woman y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 05:14 PM
–	Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant. why accept low enthusiasm vanilla sex for "Commitment" or marriage? Realistically, they won’t accept it. They’ll resent her for denying him whatever it is he is fixated on. They’ll continue to be jealous of other men getting “better”, and will be eternally pissy with her about the fact they don’t get what they think they deserve for “fairness” sake. And they’ll likely pressure her to give him whatever it is he’s obsessed with that he thinks Chad gets and he doesn’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 05:08 PM
–	Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant. Buncha dudes here also think a woman’s “best” is her teenage years. Even if she didn’t “give her best” to another man, they’re still gonna be super disappointed and angry if the woman they get isn’t the hot 19 year old virgin they want. It’s really not worth worrying about the angry feelings of injustice of dudes who are gonna find something to hate a woman for, no matter what.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 04:58 PM
2	Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ? Yeah, I realy very honestly cannot understand how a guy could make it to adulthood without observing anything for himself with his own two eyes. How did this guy go through years of social interactions and seeing all the pretty girls he wanted date… and not ever once notice that those women were dating guys who looked cute? What other basic human rules is this guy ignorant of— is he unaware that it’s socially inappropriate to walk around the town naked or randomly grunt at people? I myself am no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 12:07 PM
8	Why do Men degrade and insult Women who have sex with them? I don’t think it’s a logical thought out process either. It’s just automatic and easy to blame others instead of critically self-examining your beliefs. It’s very ordinary and human to avoid considering your whole belief system might be wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 06:56 PM
2	Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATION I think you're downplaying radicalization and somewhat mischaracterizing it. Well, what exactly is it you think is super radicalized that women are doing? I think you’re conflating a lot of things and calling them all radicalization. Like, you bring up young women being depressed x and say that’s evidence that feminism is radicalizing them… but since when are depression and body image issues the same as radicalization? Since when is sexualization a form of radicalization? And for that matter, si…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 05:15 PM
17	Why do Men degrade and insult Women who have sex with them? I agree, but I’d say it’s more externalized misandry: they are taking their internal self-loathing and hatred of their own sexuality, and externalizing it by turning their self-hate towards women. They believe their own sexuality is corruptive and gross (internalized)… so they then turn that around and call women dirty and corrupted and gross (externalized) to feel better and blame women for their yucky immoral (according to them) feelings. That way he can feel It’s not his own fault for having …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 01:55 PM
16	Why do Men degrade and insult Women who have sex with them? The use of this language genuinely seems quite misogynist to me I also want to point out how deeply misandrist the language also is. These men describe even their own sexuality as disgusting, toxic, and destructive. They view their very touch as though it’s a form of pollution, something that corrupts. In other words: as much as they are being totally misogynistic, they are also deeply and profoundly self-loathing. They cannot love with sex, because they believe sex with a man is deeply harmful—…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 01:41 PM
3	What is wife material, and why women should want to be wife material? I just think You already said very plainly that you think American women are mannish, and then doubled down on it, saying they fail to be appealing at all. You could have said you have a preference… but instead you saw an opportunity to diss and sneer at millions and millions of women you don’t know at all and took it. Denying you said what you said and trying to twist the meaning to pretend you said something else entirely is rather empty, actually. Like I said before: it’s never just about pre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 02:57 AM
10	The "Choose Better" debate always seems to devolve into defensive and/or deflecting off-topic discussions "Choose better" means don't go for obvious jackasses, badboys, drug-dealers, street thugs, criminals, guys who have a reputation for petty violence etc just because "he's 6'5" teehee". The fact that you (and every other guy screaming “choose better” at women) are so deeply attracted to the women saying drug dealers, street thugs, and criminals suggests you lot need to “choose better”. Like, I don’t fuss and fret and whine that rotten trash men aren’t choosing me: I want them to stay the fuck awa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 12:38 AM
2	Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATION Thanks for the response! In case my tone is too harsh (men here tend to read me as being waaaaaay more aggressive than I am intending. I guess I don’t use enough soft feminine lady apology language or something), I’m debating this here, but it’s not like an attack. I think radicalization plays a role… all around. I just also think saying “they’re radicalized” doesn’t really address the core of the issue. People don’t just spontaneously get radicalized for no reason— that’s true of the manosphere…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/26 02:10 PM
2	What is wife material, and why women should want to be wife material? If western women do not want to be insulted Nobody wants to be insulted. Throwing insults at total strangers is not a “preference”, it is mean and cruel. they should try to appeal to western men more You have no idea whether I am feminine or mannish, ugly or pretty, young or old, or any other woman. And it is mere bigotry (and likely just racist) to claim all western women are “unappealing”. Yet you had no problem declaring that, as a western woman, I am automatically not really a woman at all, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/26 01:22 PM
4	What is wife material, and why women should want to be wife material? I don't see the problem with having preferences. “These women act like men” is not a “preference”, it is an insult. You know that calling a woman the wrong gender is insulting. And you did it anyways. Like i said, for passport bros, it is always an opportunity to throw insults. It is never ever just a preference. If someone told you you “act like a woman”, that isn’t a preference, it is a comment on how they view you negatively. You are playing coy instead of being accountable for your words. I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 04:00 PM
7	What is wife material, and why women should want to be wife material? A lot of western women basically act like men now Passport bros always gotta find some way to insult the women around him. They never ever just have a cultural preference. No matter how polite they act, at its core, every passpor bro really does just want to find some way insult women they’re not attracted to and have nothing to do with. Always.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/26 05:51 PM
8	Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATION The radicalization has been established in a couple of countries But the list of countries with birthrates below zero is way longer than “a couple”. Like… look at the list on wikipedia. I just picked a small handful out of more than a hundred with birth rates below 2.0? Replacement is more like 2.1. Secondly, are girls in Azerbaijan somehow disconnected from Western media, TikTok, and Instagram? I have no idea whether they are on TikTok or Instagram in big numbers— but it is also wildly wrong fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/26 11:40 AM
4	Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATION Very serious real example : The bubonic plague in Europe (which killed fully 1/4 to 1/3 of the population) was, in total seriousness, the primary driver for the end of Feudalism/Manoralism in Europe. Following the death of so many, peasants, serfs, and low-wage workers were able to demand better wages/lower taxes/better conditions/new freedoms. Otherwise they’d leave and work for someone else for a better deal. Or just claim land that had been abandoned. Or take over a guild or trade that had be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 09:43 PM
3	Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATION of course not in the same ways or on the same levels I’ll agree it’s not the same ways… but I’m honestly not sure it’s lesser. One of the really common features of patriarchy is extremely strict hierarchies where lower tier men are used and disposed of. Polygamist patriarchies in particular love to use lower-class men’s labor, collect all the women, and either exile or eliminate the excess young men. Is dying in war better or worse than being a little girl forced into marital rape for the rest o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 09:16 PM
–	Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATION it's an allegory that man must remain grounded to see through wordly deceit It has also long been used, by Christians, an allegory to declare women as uniquely untrustworthy and justify treating them as inferior to men. Even though in the story both made the exact same error.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 04:06 PM
–	Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATION Ah yes, “but but she told me to” is more deflections of accountability. And the woman was deceived by the great deceiver… and when she was tricked she also did not have the knowledge of good and evil. She had no reason to distrust this random creature among God’s creations because she did not know about evil. The forbidden fruit story is just something bunch of ancient dudes made up to justify to themselves why they feel like they should be in charge, treat women like servants, and disrespect th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 12:56 PM
–	Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATION Adam ate the fruit too, same as Eve. The story of Adam and Eve is the ur example of men trying to blame women for… well in this case, literally everything bad that has ever happened, lol. Maybe try accountability for your own actions instead of blaming all women everywhere for everything you hate… all because of a lady in a story set a bajillion years ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 11:43 AM
15	Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATION What we do see is a growing ideological divide, very popular charts we've seen by now that show in the west, Well, then, here is a very obvious problem with your conclusion that female radicalization is what is driving down birth rates and marriage rates: it ain’t just happening in the west. Here is a sampling of countries with birth rates below replacement: Singapore, China, South Korea, Chile, Thailand, Puerto Rico, United Arab Emirates, Belarus, Spain, Bahamas, Costa Rica, Uruguay, Finland, B…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 11:17 AM
2	Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomes If she has a bad personality then I'll just bang her and move on. Ah, I see. You actually prefer women to make poor choices rather than to pick good men. That makes more sense. Good men aren’t dishonest to “bang her and move on”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 10:51 PM
3	21f with a 46m relationship This post reads like you’re just fishing for people to argue with you or say they’re jealous? It’s your choice alone if you want to be with a ma you call harsh, manipulative, and shitty. I wouldn’t trade with you, though. Sounds miserable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 03:04 PM
1	Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomes Not looks, height, money, and whatever other superficial thing. Oh, so have you ever chosen to date an ugly fat woman because she had such great moral character? Somehow I doubt you’ve ever even considered dating a woman you didn’t find pretty. Or is it only women who are supposed to date men they don’t find sexually attractive and just put up with that so she sell herself as a “reward” to men for good behavior?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 01:54 PM
2	Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomes but it doesn’t mage logical sense for men to criticize women like this It makes perfect sense for the men who want casual sex and feel they are being cheated out of the casual sex they feel they deserve by every women who doesn’t fuck they instantly. I do think that the typical man has no issue with women interacting in ways that are not perceived as manipulative towards men, It is unfortunate, but quite a lot of young men today are now consuming bitter manosphere content nursing their insecurit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 01:31 PM
–	Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomes Still the obvious majority Still your own choice when you decide to date someone. For everyone. Nobody is forcing you to pick women you don’t like. I’d just autistically interpret it as interest So what? Sex is not the only way to show interest, and it’s honestly pretty telling you think it is. But you just explained how women are all interchangeable to you and that according to you, men do not care who they date as long as she puts out. The “interest” you offer is the same interest you offer li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 02:46 AM
–	Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomes 60 - 80% of people at colleges participate in a hookup, let alone sleep with a guy they get into a relationship with quickly So not 100% like you claimed. Hmmm. What a surprise. I’m being serious: Were you participating in online dating? There are at least 3 times as many me as women on dating apps… according to the data the apps are willing to publish. You know dating apps are extremely skewed. If so, did no one else want to sleep with him in that timeframe? If he was a slut, I wouldn’t have da…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 12:57 AM
–	Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomes Go to a college, find a guy who’s more attractive than a female premed or engineer, and have him hang out with her for a few hours. She’ll probably sleep with him. I didn’t sleep around in college in spite of being in STEM and surrounded by decent men. You’re just cynical. Your version of “those grapes are probably sour” is apparently “any woman who doesn’t fuck me instantly is a stuck up bitch slut”, lol. I don’t believe I’m exaggerating when I say that there are nearly no college educated wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 12:06 AM
–	Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomes And men are responsible for choosing the women they choose. Yet men in this sub absolutely never hold themselves accountable for obsessively wishing for those women they also totally despise. I don’t get it. There are a lot of rotten trash men who hate women and whine and complain about how hot women don’t instantly spread their legs for them within 5 minutes of meeting them… And I am deeply grateful in my life that whiny angry dudes like them have no interest in a boring, sexually reserved, goo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 11:59 PM
–	Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomes Men here complain all the time about such women— they say they are “worn out by Chad” and that any married woman is a former slut just settling for a “beta” and making his life miserable. Men in this sub fucking despise women in happy relationships, dude. Like I am one of them myself, yet I get nothing but absolute fucking bile when I suggest that men should choose better themselves. They’re also complaining about the ones making them wait for sex who didn’t make that hot man at the club in the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 11:55 PM
–	Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomes Men are not grizzly bears, you total and utter misandrist. Men are responsible for their own actions as human beings with agency. A woman cannot force a man to become a bear, lol and it’s absolutely 🤡 you think women can do that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 11:50 PM
–	Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomes The general point is that most women only choose guys based on superficial first impressions No, many women (like men) choose men based on a variety of deeper criteria for relationships. You simply do not notice them because you are focused solely on gaining maximum speedy casual sexual access to as many women as possible (as you specify in another comment). Your problem is selection bias— you are choosing women who don’t care and ignoring the women who do care because they don’t give you the in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 07:54 PM
–	Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomes Then by corollary, you must also argue that women also 100% responsible for any time they pick a good guy. If he’s a good guy? Then it’s 100% due to her, and he deserves none of the credit for his good behavior. Right? Or… is your argument simply saying that women are responsible for everything bad, while men are responsible for everything good? If women are so responsible for male behavior… then maybe you should be more grateful to women for when men behave well!	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 06:00 PM
3	If bluebell advice worked the manosphere wouldn’t exist Also common blue pill advice that most kids are taught in kindergarten: Life isn’t fair. You were supposed to learn that long before you started dating. Blue pill dating advice never promised every man that if he followed the rules, he’d be guaranteed a woman. Like… there are 2 year old innocent children dying of cancer: how can you possibly expect identical dating outcomes for all men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 11:09 PM
–	Men like to forget and remember about importance of looks when it's convenient. You know, it would be interesting if you actually talked to all the guys in this thread saying women are most attracted to psychopathy specifically about your own experiences. Instead of just posting to say “there’s no logical contradiction because both arguments are right— women are always evil no matter what”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 11:24 AM
5	Telling men not to attach their worth to dating women is a tall ask when women collectively act like it IS about men's worth. and it's a uniquely judgemental and intense mechanism at that compared to men's. It's brutal. Your own judgement is also a uniquely and intense mechanism compared to women’s: if you think she’s attractive, then she owes it to “civilization” to just get fucked by whoever wants her regardless of her desire or even willingness. In your view, men’s desire should be placated and women’s desires are “silly” and should be overridden. For your pleasures I do not buy that you don’t get how fucking brutal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/26 04:59 PM
–	Red pill men: does a woman's virginity/sexual past matter to you and if so why? Free love in civilization, every civilization, become a thing only after zenith, when civilization its starting to collapse and again is becoming historyless. Considering how rampant prostitution (and having a mistress) has been throughout history, as well as the prevalence of rape in war… … well, if you’re defining civilization based on sexual self-control, then there’s never been a civilization ever. There have been faaaaar too many male sluts for you to claim civilization depends on sexual se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/26 11:36 AM
1	A woman who actually loves you would never accept one-sided open relationships Common sense prevails, there are plenty of sound, reasonable, rational arguments in favor of single-sex education that do not revolve around keeping women barefoot, pregnant, and chained to a stove And I do not trust the overwhelmingly dumb and conservative bunch of old fuddy-duddies in government to implement anything reasonable or rational. Considering the vibe of the current administration, they are far more likely to build girl’s schools to focus the curriculum entirely on increasing the bir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/26 05:10 PM
5	Red pill men: what turned you red pill? That’s why they also love to push the “all women are like that” idea— that belief allows them to abandon accountability for their rotten choices. They didn’t choose wrong… all women are exactly like the stuck up, selfish bitch they tailored their life to	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/26 11:13 AM
1	A woman who actually loves you would never accept one-sided open relationships clinically recognized miscarriages are ~1:1 with abortions. Clinically recognized means after a doctor’s confirmed examination. Those occur at 8 weeks or later. Funny it only counts as a pregnancy in your view if a doctor writes it on a chart. (Implantation occurs a lot earlier than 8 weeks). ~6% of mothers refuse to provide paternity information for birth certificate. A man with a reasonable belief that he is the father is also allowed to sue or a paternity test and to be named the father (I ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/26 12:39 AM
1	Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again? Are you new to this sub? It’s a frequent sentiment expressed by men here. Just stick around and read for a while. Pops up fairly randomly in threads. And interesting you think it’s outlier behavior for men to argue that lots of unmarried men presents a danger to society… but that women blame men outside of relationships for abusive relationships. Surely you can show examples of why you think women are not concerned at all about domestic violence, or why you think women blame single men for relat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 05:57 PM
5	Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again? Within the manosphere, it is men who argue that actually, if you don’t give “unselected” men a partner, then those men will become violent and destroy civilization. According to a lot of men, the mere act of selecting a man sexually is a way to pacify him and prevent violence, and a lack of sexual access drives men to be violent and destructive. This is how at least some unselected men describe themselves. So I’m curious how you address their assertion that actually, unselected men are a huge da…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 04:27 PM
7	Far too many men cannot see that they have undesirable trait's and behaviors which results in not just nobody wanting to be around them but nobody wanting to date them either and it's an issue which will follow many for their entire life. It’s hilarious how you don’t notice (or care) that a whole lot of those popular, desirable bully-girlfriends are also bullies themselves. Hint: a lot of the women who like bullies like it because they are also bullies. But that doesn’t matter to you, as long as she’s hot, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 12:54 PM
2	A woman who actually loves you would never accept one-sided open relationships e can't abort 1 million pregnancies unwanted by them every year, or give birth to 30,000 unwanted babies and give them up for adoption. And miscarriages end far more pregnancies than women ever could themselves. Interesting you believe men have nothing to do with the existence of those abortions, though. And lol— literally every baby given up for adoption was given up by a man too. Or do you ridiculously believe humans reproduce by parthenogenesis? But yet again, for all your whining and complai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 11:53 AM
1	CMV: Men in their 20s should date around and play the field I disagree. Men and women in their 20s should pursue their own personal goals and desires. They should weigh the risks and rewards of different anpproaches and make the decision on what to do based on their own judgement. They should not follow your script just because you personally think it’s the best. A guy who doesn’t want to be a slut will not benefit from doing things he doesn’t want to do for a prescribed number of years before you allow him to date more seriously. If he wants to date ser…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 01:01 AM
1	A woman who actually loves you would never accept one-sided open relationships I am a man born in the age of mandatory coeducation and raised and taught by its graduates, I don't. She made that promise towards reasonable men. It is not reasonable of you be mad about the promise of one woman made 200 years ago. And based on your comments, I bigot doubt there is any way that you would be happy with women unless we all magically and spontaneously became men. You can (and may) stop bombarding me with YOUR sick broodmare fantasies and concentrate on the argument Then stop obses…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/26 11:32 PM
1	A woman who actually loves you would never accept one-sided open relationships I have provided two feminist books as evidence of feminists making promises to men, you clutched onto one Because I didn’t want to write 10,000 words. Not one single one of those promised that every woman would become a mother. Nor is that a reasonable thing for you to expect— again, women do not exist purely to be your broodmares. It is a mistake of you to believe that these random few women mean you should get angry at literally every woman without multiple babies. It’s completely unhinged. TH…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/26 04:26 PM
1	A woman who actually loves you would never accept one-sided open relationships "Women" is not a race. The principle is sound: separate treatment means unequal treatment. Segregation is how you ensure one population will be treated worse. You cannot possibly pretend that sexism and sex biases don’t exist. If women are permanently removed from the primary education system, their curriculum will suffer. That is how the education system you prefer from Mary Wollstonecraft’s era was— where rich men learned real academic subjects (math, language, religion, law), and rich women l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/26 12:36 PM
1	A woman who actually loves you would never accept one-sided open relationships I said educated women make better citizens than they did uneducated… and you twisted that to claim I said “women are better citizens than men hurt dirt rape crime evil feminazi blah blah”. Why should I grant you the courtesy of careful calm reading, when you go all hysterical at me?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/26 11:30 AM
3	A woman who actually loves you would never accept one-sided open relationships It does not really bother me that you do not feel that you got the reward of you feel you deserve and were promised by some lady 2 hundred years ago. Like sorry not sorry you feel slighted by women being treated like actual real conscious human beings deserving of dignity and basic respect instead of the productive little pregnancy factories you want them to be. 🤷‍♀️ Me not doing the legwork for a bad-faith rude person throwing ad hominems explains the kind of a woman I desire. AI is dumb. Get o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/26 02:57 AM
3	A woman who actually loves you would never accept one-sided open relationships Women responded with the entirety of 20th century: fertility rate crash and rampant abortion rates and 31 thousand abandoned babies in 1998 No surprise to see you view women as nothing more than broodmares. But I don’t see where Wollstonecraft promised that women would become the hyper productive equivalent of human puppy mills. And besides, there was already a “fertility” crash in Europe (she was at that time before Wollstonecraft’s book anyways. The birthrate in France began its decline in aro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 11:30 PM
–	A woman who actually loves you would never accept one-sided open relationships you may open Mary Wollstonecraft's "Vindication" Women today are better citizens than they were in the 1790s. They are adults actually participating in the acts of citizenship and companionship, instead of being cloistered, silent, uneducated servants and entertainment in the home (as society viewed them). But likewise, dude, this book was written in 1792. It is, yes, a foundational text of early feminism, but kinda hard to claim modern owe you something based on a book written over 200 years ag…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 06:27 PM
–	A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogyny “your standards are too high” or “lower your standards” is criticism, sure. but it’s still treating her standards as standards It’s treating her standards as illegitimate and morally wrong. Like she’s being ”uppity” and not knowing her place. She is being told she is crazy for having such standards. it’s not immediately turning it into “there’s something psychologically wrong with you for thinking this way.” It is absolutely doing that. It is saying she is crazy and delusional to think she deser…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 01:18 PM
–	A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogyny and the default response is understanding. people will even help her refine those standards. Depends on the audience. If it’s hostile men online any boundary from a woman is immediately met with “your standards are too high” “you need to lower your standards” “you’re not hot enough— what do you bring to the table to demand anything”, or the ever popular “you only say that because you’re a used up who used to fuck Chad and got dumped”. They are extremely not understanding of women having any stan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 11:57 AM
2	Indian guy here - how do red-pillers apply RP logic and philosophy to countries where women are objectively worse-off? I think misandry has increased over the last century or two despite misogyny decreasing I’m curious: how much do you actually know of the real thoughts and feelings of any women from over a hundred years ago? Or even 50 years ago. You are highly aware of your algorithm-curated rage bait you seek out today… but you likely aren’t all that aware of even average women’s thoughts today. What makes you think you know so much about how women felt 30, 50, or 100 years ago? Like, mot men of the distant p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 01:12 PM
5	Many young women HIGHLY undervalue 'safe and predictable' behavior which incentivizes more toxic behavior that those same women love to complain about etc too early. Like… yeah? Being extremely vulnerable and emotional way early in dating is a turn off for men too. If you’re on a second date with a woman and she starts openly weeping about how she’s already way too old and is never going to find someone to love or marry her… most men are gonna side-eye her and ghost. Or maybe instead she breaks down in tears about all her family drama and how she can’t get along with her mom and her father is too distant and she can never get his approval. Or …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 12:49 PM
3	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men I countered that women ending up in unhappy relationships was never the goal. It was never the goal. I did not claim there was an evil conspiracy to torture women— that is how you interpreted what I said. But while deliberately making women unhappy was not the goal, satisfying women was also usually not a goal either. Women were simply a secondary consideration, most of the time. No, not for all of history in every circumstance. But for most of history, men’s desires came first. I'm not sure any…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 12:31 PM
2	What is your vetting advice for women? Women who literally have no positive male role models, a caring brother, or even a cousin who they can turn to for advice is the exception, not the norm. You’re the one saying women only ever choose deadbeat losers. How would a woman have a good role model to ask about relationships if the only men around her with any dating experience are all deadbeat losers? and that was my advice I notice you keep dodging any level accountability for going way out of your way to insult my family based on noth…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 12:44 AM
–	What is your vetting advice for women? It’s really clear you didn’t read any of my comment at all, and didn’t even try. I explained why your advice doesn’t work for many women, and that likewise, many women actually do pick well without needing her male relatives to pick for her. Tl;dr: your advice only works for some women, and excludes many. But instead of reading anything I actually wrote for comprehension, you went out of your way to shit on my late father for no fucking reason except your own smug hate. And your response to me c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 12:12 AM
3	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men Are these evil feminist in the room with us? Why are you babbling at me about something off topic? Nothing I said was advocacy of these feminist conspiracy you’re so terrified of. But I guess I’m not really surprised. Like a lot of guys here, you completely ignored the content of what I said to lecture me about how much you think women are bad. You: men and women should work together to be happy… but women are totally fucking stupid sheep without minds of their own and I hate them. Like dude, ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 12:01 AM
–	What is your vetting advice for women? Is your argument here really that none of your male family members give a shit about your well being? Do not throw a little tantrum and make this personal so you can snugly throw insults at me. My family is great. But I also picked my man just fine without having to go ask daddy to make my decisions for me like the helpless little baby you truly want to believe all women are, dude. No I didn’t have a string of losers and deadbeats before this one, either, so don’t make up some “pump and dump” bu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 10:40 PM
2	Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male Concerns Yeah (although I’ll caveat it’s not all men— there are men who didn’t vote for Donny, after all). And, it’s not like assholes never have male friends either. I suspect those same red pillers who always love to preach that men always know which men are rotten assholes (and that women are all always too stupid to make good decisions and should ask another man to pick who she dates for her)…. Those same red pillers likely also still have a few rotten asshole friends they defend and uplift and call …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 10:30 PM
5	What is your vetting advice for women? You have male family members. Only helps if your male family members are very perceptive and actually recognize these assholes quickly, are not assholes themselves, and are willing to burn bridges, and isn’t making a mistake this time around. And it definitely doesn’t work if your male relatives are deadbeat trash themselves. The reality is that a lot of good men even have asshole male friends they never realized were assholes either. Men are not the superior intuitive infallible vetting machine…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 08:53 PM
3	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men The goal obviously was to reward both men and women Oh? The why are you defending someone encouraging men to say “fuck it”, if it’s so obvious that the goal is to reward both men and women? Why are you chewing me out instead of him? My objection is to the idea that men saying “fuck it” should be appeased by requiring women to sexually service them so they can be happy. That proposal might make those rotten men happy, but it will also destroy the happiness of the woke required to service them. So…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 08:28 PM
6	Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male Concerns We were talking about women enabling (rewarding) assholes, if I recall correctly. Just as men also enable and reward assholes. For example: you believe it is asshole behavior to enable and reward assholes… and yet you still pay a whole lot more attention and genuine attraction towards those women anyways, while ignoring the existence of women who don’t enable assholes. Not all women date the asshole dudes you hate… yet somehow those asshole women are the only women you care about. I find it very…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 11:42 AM
5	Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male Concerns otherwise prudish women that never accepted the "Slut Walk" era of feminism before he rode down the escalator. It sounds like you’re describing the Slut Walks as having the message “yay! Women should all have sex with random guys constantly and any woman who doesn’t is a dumb loser prude!”. But that wasn’t the message at all in the 00s. And being a “slut” was not a requirement in feminism in that era either. I certainly didn’t feel like I was considered “the enemy” for lacking the kind of sexual…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 10:57 AM
0	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men I've been married 15 years, and I when we first met, we were both very lonely people. We both are good people that came from broken homes. I don’t remember claiming that it is impossible for people who grew up in broken homes to have a happy relationship. Can you please quote where you think I said that, Mr Black and White Thinking? I think a little clinginess is necessary for it to lead to marriage in the first place, let alone stay together. A little clinginess shouldn't be frowned upon. Why d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 05:33 PM
8	The phenomenon of passport bros is natural selection at work Yeah. Dude spends multiple lines shitting on western women, and then tries to claim we’re the bitches for not swallowing his shit with a smile. Like dudebro OP, if you think I’m inherently gross and worthless because of where I’m born, I’d definitely don’t want your disgusting hateful “love” or your sex. Go away and stay away, and I hope you eventually find the hateful mean woman just like yourself that you truly deserve.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 02:38 PM
6	As a women I'll never understand other women's obsession with marriage It’s also the case in China, in case anyone here points out that Quebec isn’t that big globally.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 02:22 PM
5	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men whining on forums about low value men or the losers you wasted your youth on The fuck are you talking about? Where have I ever whined about “low value men”? Quote me. My history is posted here. You’re just making up insulting bullshit stories about me to call me a slut and make yourself feel good, huh. I didn’t fuck anyone in my youth. I was a virgin. I have some had exactly one partner and I am married to him. Women like me not wanting to be forced to provide the sex to appease angry men like y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 02:18 PM
1	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men Even without a strict black and white terms, your thought process is totally strange and incredibly anti-happy relationships. It does not make any sense that you believe someone who grew up with a healthy relationship with healthy parents is “probably” or “most likely” going to be miserable and incapable of love. It’s like your actually advocating that the best possible result for a kid is that their parents have a terrible relationship, and literally every study on the subject shows the opposit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 02:04 PM
4	As a women I'll never understand other women's obsession with marriage Do you use your mom’s last name or your dad’s? Where did your mom get her last name? This is such a weird argument. Do you think last names are solely owned by men, and that women are merely low-level stooges who are lucky to be allowed to borrow them? Do you think for women that a last name is more like a label of male ownership? Like it’s kind of a “this thing is owned by” ownership label? A woman’s last name is also her name. It is how other people identify her in the world, and it is how she…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 12:11 PM
5	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men Not at all. The discussion topic in this thread was the idea that women are “destroying society” by having sexual choice. You said “why shouldn’t men say ‘fuck it’” if they are not gifted a woman of their desire as a reward for behaving. Well the obvious counterpoint is “why shouldn’t women say ‘fuck it’” if they are to punished for food behavior by being given out as prizes to keep supposedly, self-styled “good men” from destroying society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 11:16 AM
0	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men It is deeply bizarre you think that having loving parents means you cannot appreciate love, or that having rotten parents means you’ll be an amazing partner. What a simplistic view of people you have. And very much a weird revenge fantasy, where you hope people who didn’t struggle with a shit family will inevitably get some kind of comeuppance. Such an unkind and unloving worldview.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 11:11 AM
6	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men And you want those criminal women, as well as women who make all around horrible choices, very desperately. Why do you not hold yourself accountable for desperately seeking to breed with the very worst women? Children inherit half their genetics from the mother, yet you systematically choose to seek out the very worst women… yet lack the self-awareness and personal accountability to even acknowledge your own poor choices to worship these women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 11:47 PM
1	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men Why do you frame relationships like a girlfriend is a replacement for having parents? Most women absolutely do not want a man who treats her like she’s his mommy. It is sexually repellant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 11:44 PM
4	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men Flip the dynamic and you get erosion of the social contract. Well, that’s exactly the dynamic given to women for much of history, though: be a well-behaved good woman, and instead of being rewarded, you will be punished for the rest of your life by being forced to be obedient to, have unwanted sex with over and over with, bear the children of someone you do not want. That is the promise given to women in a society that treats of women as nothing more than a prize for a man’s minimally tolerable …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 10:55 PM
1	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men Fair enough. Not like I’ve never plopped a comment in the wrong spot, lol. I was super confused what point you were tryin to make.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 10:45 PM
–	Chores are survival skills not gender roles The constant obsession in the manosphere and red pill space with finding a woman to cook and clean etc for you is honestly ridiculous Sure. But the right wing expects women to do this work because they do not respect anyone who does that work, and they feel emasculated when they have to stoop to doing any of that feminine work they view as beneath their superior manly dignity. They’re not going to change.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 10:30 PM
1	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men Why are you asking me? What on earth does your comment have to do with mine? Like, seriously, what in my comment inspired you to tell me that you are able to father children? Is it that you want me to know that you think your wife not conceiving is just like being murdered?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 11:41 AM
2	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men A teeny tiny fraction of women openly move towards polyamory. It is RARE compared to monogamy. Stop fussing over the fact that there is a small minority of women you disapprove of and touch some grass. The vast majority of women do not want to share.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 11:32 AM
1	Red Pillers idolize the wrong men The quality of women wanting to seriously be in a relationship with a man like this would also be lower. Counterpoint: a whole lotta red pillers do not seem to care about the quality of women they attract. They believe any woman will be a slut for criminal Chad. They believe all women are basically the same, and that the presence of a sufficiently masculine and attractive man will cause a woman to automatically be submissive and feminine the way he wants. “AWALT”. Interchangeable except for thei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 10:02 PM
2	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men No. Why are you going out of your way to insult me? Just because you fantasize about being a slut Chad with a bunch of desperate simp harem floozies doesn’t mean I want that low-tier shit life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 03:35 PM
3	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men Yeah. I listened to a long podcast about it. They (the mongols or some older historians, I don’t remember!) euphemistically would say he “took women as wives”… but I don’t think anyone believes all his “wives” were consensual. Interestingly enough, Ghengis Khan (real name Temujin) actually kinda got started on the war path when his first newly-wed wife, Borte, was kidnapped by raiders. He organized a war party against the raiders 8 months later and found her and brought her back. She gave birth …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 03:31 PM
3	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men Enforced monogamy was essentially a biological subsidy—a social contract that artificially distributed access to ensure stability. Historically, polygamy was a product of extreme resource imbalances, patriarchal social structures, and violent enforcement. Not through women’s freedom of choice and free love. Most women don’t want to be the 6th wife out of 11– that’s a life of extreme, often backstabbing, competition for her children’s wellbeing. It’s only appealing when the alternative is nearly …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 12:03 PM
8	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men Yeah, a big part of that “natural state” of men not reproducing was incredibly high amounts of violence. The archeological record indicates that violence was one of the most common causes of death among hunter gatherer men. … and if violence was that rampant… it seems fairly likely at least some (unknowable) fraction of reproduction was not actually a result of female choice. It’s not like war rape was rare in the historical record either. That’s a very clear case where some men reproduced with …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 11:33 AM
4	Most young women are dating the same set of terrible men Women are “deranged” for… liking you? Yet you say you’re also not a “bad boy”. What a bizarre and contradictory belief system you have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 11:18 AM
17	Women don't chase Chad because women don't experience post-nut clarity No, the OP is literally saying he doesn’t like women after he touches them. If you actually like someone, having sex with them doesn’t cause you to be filled with “dread” (his word, not mine) at the very idea of seeing to them again.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 04:40 PM
1	Only wanting women who give you instant sexual gratification is being picky too. You know what also sounds like coercion? You trying to tell women that if she doesn’t fuck a man instantly, then she will be judged as a hypocritical whore slut who has had casual sex with dozens of men at bars and on vacations, but is just manipulating him for some bizarre reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/26 03:46 PM
5	If a man didn’t ask the right questions about dating, it’s not women’s fault he didn’t get the answers he wanted. Those guys often have sex held away from them, while the girl was happily getting bent over in the park by assholes who treat her like trash It’s so great you guys make the assumption that any woman who is more sexually cautious totally must have a rich history of getting fucked over a public park bench by assholes. Like dude, keep shooting yourselves in the foot, but do not ever claim you just want a “nice girl”, hahah. You fucking hate women who are aren’t turbo sluts for you. If she’s not ins…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/26 01:28 PM
5	Yes, some women actually want to be single and childless How often do you think he calls his mom or dad to talk? When he isn’t trying to get something from them, I mean. And do you think he’s self-aware enough to realize he spends very little time making them feel “less lonely”. 🎼 the cat’s in the cradle and the silver spoon… 🎶	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 03:59 PM
6	Many women have a parasitic approach to relationships. A guy who does not care whether his child has food or shelter to survive should not procreate anyways. Resources matter. It’s incredibly gross you think it’s such a horrible evil burden on men that women want their children to survive with zero investment from the father. All you are doing is whining that most women don’t want to procreate with a deadbeat. Like seriously, boo fucking hoo. Most women want the best for their baby, instead of the “men just want to procreate with broke desperate tee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 12:24 PM
3	Do people actually dislike marriage traditions, or just specific ones? Well, that’s a bit extreme, if you’re using internet slang here like “unalive”. It is not a form of death or self-violence. I survived. But it is a real sacrifice. And unfortunately some dudes just really do not put any thought into their demand beyond “I want HER to change her name , but I’d never do it because it’s emasculating and my name is important, nyah”. Like, guys, even if you’re all traditional blah blah blah, maybe think a little more about what you’re really asking and be more apprec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/26 09:07 PM
17	Do people actually dislike marriage traditions, or just specific ones? Would you take your spouse’s last name? I did, but there’s some real downsides dudes often do not appreciate or even recognize when they expect this: All the fucking government paperwork. Fucking miserable bullshit. Going to the social security office. Getting your drivers license changed. Updating your bank account. Needing additional documentation for everything. The US Congress is currently trying to push some anti-trans legislation that will also make it harder for anyone whose name doesn’t …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/26 08:03 PM
4	Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating? I'm picking up on the fact that she only mentions dating people she's qualified as acceptable because she's on their level. She says she dated guys with a similar background to her. She dated the very same “uneducated” guys you say she “wouldn’t talk to”, lol. You made up a narrative about her. her found out they had an interest in things they didn't share, you'd discount them immediately. All I see is that you make up all sorts of stories inside your head about people you don’t know to attack t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/26 02:52 AM
6	Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating? Why do you automatically assume she thinks people in trades are stupid, unless your problem is that you think they are stupid? I see no indication that she thinks folks in the trades are dumb— especially since she says she herself is intelligent and is in trades. Intelligent is not a synonym for highly educated. Lots of less educated people are intelligent. And likewise, there’s quite a few highly educated people who are absolute fucking morons. Don’t project your own intellectual snobbery on ev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/26 12:37 AM
5	Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating? I mean in the way that if a woman thinks you are uneducated, she won't talk to you. You seriously did not read what she wrote. She said the exact opposite: that she didn’t give guys with degrees the time of day. She specifically targeted less educated men for dating. Is reading really that hard for you? Or are you just ranting and can’t handle anybody who doesn’t fit in your “women bad” narrative?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/26 12:24 AM
2	UBI will forge an eternity of regret in the wasted wombs of “independent” women. Have you tried… not being like this? Like seriously, what’s your goal with this weird fantasy? Or is this just you fapping in public again?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/26 09:09 PM
8	Younger women are just more attractive. Why do you constantly need to tell people? They want to scare younger women into settling for someone like themselves out of fear of becoming an old lonely cat lady. So they’re really saying: “men are only attracted women in their early 20s— you’d better have sex with me before it’s too late”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 11:08 AM
1	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization subordinate is someone of a lower rank, yet that doesn't make them automatically, well, inherently worse or inferior It does mean they are a hierarchical inferior. And they are usually a hierarchical inferior because someone thinks they actually are worse their superior at something. Many men historically (and some modern men, particularly in some religious communities), put women on the same moral standing as men and children… but simultaneously place those woke substantially below men in respe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 01:22 AM
0	Dating is highly monopolistic for men with women only dating the same few men from dating app stats … you mean the dating app stats where men outnumber women by a factor of 3. And 3 is the number Tinder was willing to publish several years ago. It is likely a lot more imbalanced than that: they have a strong financial incentive not to filter out bots, only fans ads, inactive accounts, women who just made an account to get flattered, and men signing up with a fake pic as a “social experiment”. When there are 10 men for every desirable woman, those women will not select all…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/26 10:58 AM
1	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization You asked me to “name one” and I easily cited 5 across many eras in western history. Don’t ask for something then make up a dozen new rules and caveats for why those don’t count. I’m not interested in playing calvinball. All men naturally love women and want to protect them Except the ones who don’t do that? Obviously some think women are lowly shit, dude. Stop glorifying all men. Some men do actually hate women and really do suck. Like, who the fuck are these men all supposedly protecting women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/26 01:47 AM
1	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization Being subordinate in situations does not automatically equate to being inferior. The definition in Merrimack Webster indicates subordinate and inferior are synonyms. It’s the first definition. Subordinate 1. placed in or occupying a lower class, rank, or position : INFERIOR So yeah, it does actually equate to being treated as an inferior. That’s what the word means. Religious goobers saying “No you’re totally equal… just ‘different’ and naturally subordinate” is mealy-mouthed sounds-nice bullshi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/26 01:45 AM
1	Could artifitial wombs technology bring more drawbacks for women lives than advantages? and I want to know why that should make me unable to be around the little kid called "my own son." I said nothing about you personally, and I told you I’m not interested in continuing after you call be a fucking Nazi and claiming I want to put all men in jail and all sorts of other baffling nonsense you made up. There is no value in a discussion with you, since you do nothing but put lies in my mouth. Go away.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/26 12:17 AM
1	Could artifitial wombs technology bring more drawbacks for women lives than advantages? it's not a slippery slope if the other person believes it and puts it into practice: "first the came for the socialists, and I did not speak out" is a slippery slope fallacy, it was just the nazis making people live their fallacy. Exactly where have I put anything in practice? I have not even advocated for that beyond simply saying that abusers should not be around little kids. And seriously… comparing me to a Nazi. For opposing child abuse. I don’t think I need to keep reading. Your extreme exa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 10:29 PM
1	Could artifitial wombs technology bring more drawbacks for women lives than advantages? I mean if my 3 year old son punches his 2 year old brother, I think we can all agree that you are arguing a silly slippery slope here. This is the same argument as anti gay marriage people who argued “well, what if we allow people to marry turtles? Huh??” I did not argue that literal toddlers and adult men should be viewed the same way. But I do always hold adult men accountable for their own actions.m far more than I do little babies. You've dated someone who’s started a fistfight before man, t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 07:27 PM
1	Could artifitial wombs technology bring more drawbacks for women lives than advantages? and Lennon shouldn't be a househusband because he has a penis, some people were/are saying the latter and that's all I am talking about. Sure. And I’m not one of the people saying the latter, so chill. You are arguing against a strawman. I said Lennon shouldn’t have been a stay at home dad because he as an individual had a history of domestic abuse, not because “he had a penis”. I don’t know how you read anything I wrote and imagined I said that. Because I fucking didn’t! What I am saying is tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 09:10 AM
2	Could artifitial wombs technology bring more drawbacks for women lives than advantages? Sean wasn't "neglected" to the extent of being left on the back of a bus, and nothing else substantial by Sean ever really surfaced, The child he totally neglected was Julian. don't be a misogynist 🙄 There is absolutely zero misogyny in suggesting that an abuser should not be home all day with vulnerable children. Revolting dishonesty on your part to suggest I’m a “misogynist” for saying a known abuser isn’t actually a good parent. I don't know, sounds like you need a trusted grown man to protec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/26 11:55 PM
2	Could artifitial wombs technology bring more drawbacks for women lives than advantages? Then when lennon is a "househusband" he get pillaried, what a joke man Considering John Lennon quite famously has publicly admitted that he beat his wives and neglected his own child. The real joke is you thinking someone like him should be a househusband. 🤡 You know you said that violence is such a great thing for a father— tell me, what do you think happens to a little kid who gets hit that hard by a grown man? I think men being involved fathers is highly valuable, and it’s really unfortunate …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/26 06:46 PM
3	Could artifitial wombs technology bring more drawbacks for women lives than advantages? my biological father did in fact want to raise two infants alone Okay. I did not say that all men will absolutely refuse to ever care for an infant, did I? There is a very big difference between stepping up to do something really hard because your already born child need help, and deliberately going out to make a child. As far as I can tell, there are a lot more men who desperately want to set up “paper abortions” than there are who want to chooooose to birth and raise a child totally alone. No …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/26 02:57 PM
2	Could artifitial wombs technology bring more drawbacks for women lives than advantages? Anyone can be trained to be a violent brutal evil abuser. Not just men. But that is not how they are born. You’re right that it is a conservative view that people are inherently deeply wicked and must be controlled with extreme brutality and threats of eternal hellfire to keep them in line, though. And yes, it is culture, not that men are inherently made to brutalize their own wives and children. The difference between us is that you believe men are inherently evil and abusing women just the nat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/26 12:08 PM
3	Could artifitial wombs technology bring more drawbacks for women lives than advantages? I disagree that men are inherently terrible. Most men don’t secretly want to beat and abuse and rape and destroy. For example, men have to be trained and abused in order to be willing to kill in wars. Most men drafted into the Vietnam war would fire their weapons over the tree tops rather than murder other human beings. It was only a small minority of me who were eager to cause pain and suffering. Sadists and abusers love to say that all other men are just like them so they can excuse their own …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/26 11:41 AM
1	"Misandry is a response to misogyny" is complete BS, and here's proof if misandry were just a reaction to misogyny, in the US at least, it would have peaked just before 1920 How would you possibly know what levels of misandry women had in the 19-teens? I bet you have not read literally a single word about men either said or written by any woman from that era, lol. Or the 1950s, for that matter. You have no clue what women thought then and you do not care. Here’s a quick hint though: the temperance movement and the push for prohibition in the US were heavily female…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/26 01:40 AM
14	Could artifitial wombs technology bring more drawbacks for women lives than advantages? Counterpoint: the exclusive capacity of women to bear children is a huge component of why men want to marry and protect women in the first place. The overwhelming majority of men do not want to raise an infant alone. It’s a whole lot of work, especially alone. Since men are, by a wide margin, the gender comfortable with accumulating capital/force/influence and enforcing violence Violence is a particularly unhelpful skill in caring for a baby. Typically, one benefits from the mother of his childr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 10:03 PM
5	Women are the ones red pilling men The entire red pill it's self is a reaction to how society has changed due to feminism. So, unless women are stripped of equal rights are a totally disempowered servant class to men, some men will rage out and form a culty little woman-hating cult? Yeah, ok. You’re not selling me on wanting to date those guys. I definitely don’t want to give up my rights for the “privilege” of being some angry guy’s docile broke unappreciated servant. You can’t please some people no matter what you do. The kind …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 06:50 PM
–	Good women don't exist in the West anymore because women have their cake and eat it too Walks like a duck, talks like a duck, is a duck The kitchen is calling hun. A cheap get back in the kitchen joke? No surprises you can’t find a woman to be feminine and cook for you, lol— you clearly have zero respect for women who do work in the kitchen. 🤡 Good grief, you sneer and whine that women aren’t “feminine” any more… and then you turn around and use traditional feminine work as a fucking insult! Guys like you are all the same— you claim to hate modern women, but in reality there’s no w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 12:49 AM
–	Good women don't exist in the West anymore because women have their cake and eat it too You act like the Instagram and OnlyFans circus is some fringe minority, but it’s the norm for Western women under 30. No, being a turbo slut on Only Fans and getting your “back blown out” is not the norm for western women under 30. It is the norm for the women you slobber over on your onlyfans whale account. The fact that “thousands of simps” and hookup culture are punchlines They are punchlines only to woman-hating creepazoids online. Not to the vas majority of normal people who are not assumin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 12:41 AM
–	Good women don't exist in the West anymore because women have their cake and eat it too Almost no men in the west watch zero porn. And you very clearly spend a great deal of time scrolling the porniest thirst traps on insta while talking about “backs blown out”, the language of someone who watches way too much gross porn. So no, I do not believe you. And I assumed you are not western because you cannot possibly have lived in the west and have 100% of the women you interact with fit this bizarre fantasy caricature. You also speak like someone who has zero western values himself: bei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 12:31 AM
–	Good women don't exist in the West anymore because women have their cake and eat it too It’s pretty likely he is not western himself and his only knowledge of “western women” comes from his endless fapping and from religious propaganda in some non-western country.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/26 11:46 PM
–	Good women don't exist in the West anymore because women have their cake and eat it too The creepiest part about the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is that Lot, supposedly the one “good man in all the city of Sodom offered up his virgin daughters to be raped by an angry mob. And yet in spite of that genuinely horrible, evil behavior, he’s the “good man” and it was his wife who was turned into a pillar of salt for looking back at the burning town (like any normal person would).	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/26 11:42 PM
–	Good women don't exist in the West anymore because women have their cake and eat it too Whatever his grandma is like wherever he’s from?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/26 11:35 PM
–	Good women don't exist in the West anymore because women have their cake and eat it too Why would a woman stay off social media and keep herself virgin when she can get her back blown out every weekend, rack up thousands of simps on IG posting thirst traps This quote says everything about how you spend all your time: lusting desperately after Instagram goobers and porn stars… and fantasizing that you could be them. There’s tons of women in the west not living this crazy lifestyle, but you’ll never see them because the only women you will ever have eyes for are the ones you’re const…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/26 11:34 PM
3	Women hypocritically dismiss men complaining about not having sex, yet get angry if a pro life person tells them not to have sex. You are so deep in your own aggrieved victimhood, it’s pretty wild. You are still playing the martyr. Totally baffling.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/26 11:22 PM
3	Women hypocritically dismiss men complaining about not having sex, yet get angry if a pro life person tells them not to have sex. I read the question and quoted it. I cannot even begin to guess what possible reason you think answering it would get you banned other than the reasons I stated. It’s not a comprehension problem on my part. The issue is you either desperately playing the victim over nothing or just being flat out dishonest. Could be both.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/26 11:06 PM
1	Women hypocritically dismiss men complaining about not having sex, yet get angry if a pro life person tells them not to have sex. The original question that was posed was “ How is allowing women to have abortion taking away your bodily autonomy?” You claimed that answering the question would get you banned. The only answer to that question I can guess that you would give that would actually get you banned from Reddit is a direct threat of violence. If you mean banning from this sub, then you could also get banned for something like race baiting or virulent personal attacks as an answer. I’ll take that as an acknowledgement…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/26 08:53 PM
3	Women hypocritically dismiss men complaining about not having sex, yet get angry if a pro life person tells them not to have sex. You are the one saying that you would be banned from Reddit for responding with your honest opinion. “I don’t like abortion” is not a bannable offense here. Neither is “I think abortion is murder”. Neither is disagreement in general. There’s even a poster on this very sub who posts that pretty regularly and isn’t banned. The thing that is bannable is threats of killing the speaker you disagree with. Talk about playing the victim— nobody is persecuting you here for not liking someone else’s words…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/26 08:19 PM
4	“I like to take things slow” usually means she’s not that into you Straight men view hetero sex as something wonderful and beautiful. A lot of straight men view hetero sex as something wonderful and beautiful for him… and disgusting degenerate and devaluing for her. They view women as damaged, gross, disgusting and unworthy of love or affection depending on how much sex she has had. Like seriously, how many men describe women as “sluts”, “for the streets”, “used up”, “a ho”, a “304”, “not wife material” etc for having sex? Lotta men don’t view sex as something …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/26 06:04 PM
-1	Women hypocritically dismiss men complaining about not having sex, yet get angry if a pro life person tells them not to have sex. I think he’s trying to say that he wants to threaten you with deadly violence, but he would get banned if he did.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/26 11:51 AM
–	What position do you hold that you genuinely can't understand why the opposite gender pushes back on? If you believe stealthing is wrong and is a crime you should believe lying about bc is wrong and should be a criminal offense. Yet again, you really clearly do not understand the argument I am making. I am not claiming it’s moral to lie about paterity, and we weren’t even talking about birth control at all— that’s you changing the discussion totally. The discussion was about mandatory universal paternity testing, not about the morality of birth control. I agree it’s immoral to lie about birth co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/26 07:59 PM
–	What position do you hold that you genuinely can't understand why the opposite gender pushes back on? I read the whole thing. That is exactly why I think it is very clear you do not understand my argument: because you are still totally wrong about what I am arguing, You made arguments against my individual points, some of which were simply dismissive, and some of which were essentially “oh yeah well you’re a woman and some other women say this. Those did not indicate good understanding at all. No. You made arguments against it, some of which were simply dismissive, and some of which were essenti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/26 05:41 PM
–	What position do you hold that you genuinely can't understand why the opposite gender pushes back on? In general I do believe that someone can have a difference of opinion on something not because of gender. But So that’s actually a “no”. In general you think it is possible for people to disagree with you… but not on this particular issue. You do not have any capacity to understand anybody disagreeing with you when it comes to your desire to have the government force something that you can easily and freely already choose to do on your own. Why is it so critically important that the government f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/26 02:53 PM
2	What position do you hold that you genuinely can't understand why the opposite gender pushes back on? And sorry, not to spam your inbox… but I have this question for you in response to your OP: You stated that you genuinely cannot understand why any woman would hold a different opinion from you. Do you still genuinely fail to understand how I hold a different opinion than you on this particular topic? Do you think I am simply stupid for disagreeing with your view? Or are you open to understanding that sometimes people do really genuinely disagree on a topic for real reasons, and it isn’t just be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/26 12:49 AM
2	What position do you hold that you genuinely can't understand why the opposite gender pushes back on? The rate of a false positive or negative is 0. 001 or something like that are 0.01. Where did you get this stat? The study I found shows a false negative rate on modern paternity tests (“related identified as being unrelated”) of around 0.058%. Small… but performed as a mandatory test, that’s 2000 families every year. Thats not trivial no matter how much you want to believe it is. You are safer trusting of paternity test than you are a condom. Very interesting comparison, considering condoms are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 07:37 PM
1	Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle men You're ignoring the cost of what you're advocating. Some disputes between worker and business are zero-sum. What the worker gains, the business loses. Owners and customers can wind up worse off for making the workers' lives better. I am not ignoring the costs, I simply did not add them in here. Nowhere did I argue that companies should give every employee everything they desire. I addressed your specific scenario: of a workplace where men work very long hours and their concerns are ignored. That…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 06:56 PM
1	What position do you hold that you genuinely can't understand why the opposite gender pushes back on? The only person who loses here is someone whose story wouldn't survive verification. The same infrastructure expansion would also processes rape kits faster. I actually do oppose mandatory testing for a bunch of real reasons (none of which are about protecting a cheating bitch!): You say the only ones who lose are those whose “story wouldn’t survive verification”, but that is factually wrong. All tests have a risk of running a false positive or a false negative. There is no perfect test and dna …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 05:26 PM
2	Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle men Men are not precluded from having feminine ideas You did not say at first that you means feminine ideas, you argued that bringing women would change a job that didn’t need to be changed. You said “women”, not “feminine ideas” like safety precautions and listening to the workers. You are changing goal posts. And if wanting fair wages and reasonable work hours is “feminine”, then more men need to be feminine instead of working themselves into an early grave as wage slaves for nothing. Your notion …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 04:32 PM
2	Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle men Yes, that is the labor movement I am talking about too. The one where men themselves objected to the very working conditions (long hours, no days off, low pay, lack of safety, and lack of concern for workers’ wellbeing). Men fought in and led the labor movement— men do not actually want the working conditions you say imply don’t need to be changed. The labor movement did involve women, and some women were important in the movement… but the labor movement and unions most certainly were not forced…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 04:03 PM
3	Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle men The women’s movement has been ongoing for over 175 years. It has been contemporaneous with an awful lot of events and movements. There was some connection, yes — the triangle shirtwaist fire and the radium girls were important the labor movement. But likewise, entirely male working environments also led the labor movement. For example, the Battle of Blair Mountain, the largest armed uprising in the US since the civil war, was part of the cow wars, a series of labor “disputes” and violent uprisin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 02:31 PM
1	Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle men I feel like I’ve heard that men in China on 9-9-6 aren’t actually super thrilled with being wage slaves. It’s funny that you describe a male-dominated work environment as being pretty similar to the miserable exhausting unaccomodating toil that the labor movement fought against in the late 1800s. Men in this very sub sneer and shame women for being “wage slaves” if the woman so much as leaves the fucking kitchen. I don’t think most men actually want to waste their lives slaving in the mines. Why…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 12:12 PM
1	Would you be a Single Father Since I can't breastfeed Formula has saved the lives of a lot of babies whose mothers cannot breastfeed. Some women have illnesses or injuries or need medications that prevent them breastfeeding, and sometimes they just cannot produce enough for the baby to thrive. Sometimes the mother dies in childbirth or after. Lots of babies are raised on formula, and they are very healthy. Modern formula is good enough that some women can breastfeed but simply choose not, and doctors don’t worry about it. T…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 11:38 AM
2	Women need to embrace, modernity all the way. The manosphere content they’ve been consuming is a contributor of that but that time will pass very soon. Ok, I see zero evidence evidence that the manosphere, which has been very active for well over 20 years and hasn’t actually evaporated like you think. But by the same logic, the weird princess content these women you criticize have been consuming is the same kind of contributor that last just as long, Why are you foisting all the blame on this niche demographic of women while dismissing a fa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 05:38 PM
2	Women need to embrace, modernity all the way. Again you blame a particular group of women for watching romance movies (?), and paint men as the only people fighting gender expectations. So seriously, if men do not like such women, why do men (like you) pay so much attention to them and ignore women who are more progressive? And I certainly do not see evidence that more and more men are interested in dismissing female beauty standards or even traditional roles— there seems to be quite a resurgence of young men expecting women to be tradition…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 03:41 PM
5	Women need to embrace, modernity all the way. Ok. And my point is that A) being progressive and B) being consistent didn’t get me any male interest. As for C), you put everything on women. I genuinely dislike chivalry… some men performing chivalry are doing it as a covert contract or are condescending with it, and I very honestly don’t like it. You blame women 100% for these gender roles, yet I have had men literally get offended at me when I opened the door for them. What I have seen is a lot of men angry when women are not appreciative en…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 02:57 PM
6	Women need to embrace, modernity all the way. Men in 2026 don’t approach as much, prefer to split bills 50/50, don’t bring flowers on first dates, and don’t serenade as often—not because we don’t care, but because the culture around these things has simply shifted Sure. And the way I found out that I had to approach is that men strongly preferred to approach other women than me. I didn’t expect the man to pay or (lol) buy me flowers, but they also really didn’t seem interested in me at all. Nobody is forcing you to buy women flowers and all…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 02:20 PM
8	Men confuse their desire as effort Men generally don’t want the woman who is willing to fuck any man in the city who’ll have her. They have lots of very insulting terms for such women. It shouldn’t be too complicated to recognize that women also don’t want to be a man’s ten-thousandth backup beta choice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 02:09 PM
3	Women have no choice but to be privileged in dating, at least eventually. This would make sense if the nuclear family were natural. But it is not. Humans have always been social and had extended families. It wasn’t one man and woman against the world. I agree, and I didn’t say it was. But humans are not a species where the father’s participation in parenting is totally irrelevant. For example, very often in humans, marriage/relationships were exogamous— the woman was moved away from her own family and taken to be with his. This is common in hunter gatherer tribes. It …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 11:27 PM
0	Women have no choice but to be privileged in dating, at least eventually. How similar in birds for example males make the nest. Depends on the bird species. In some, the males start a nest and the female finishes (wrens and weaver birds). Many birds don’t make nests (penguins) or make meme-worthy jokes of nests (rock doves aka city pigeons), in some species it’s a joint effort (barn swallows and bluebirds), and in others (robins, mallards) it’s female led or a solo female activity. Simple fact society cares much less of what women offer The breakdown of gender roles i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 03:49 PM
5	Women have no choice but to be privileged in dating, at least eventually. Its flipped cause we rely on tools and clothes to survive. Thats why its flipped and mostly men take care of building and tools It’s weird you mention that humans rely on tools and clothes to survive, but then turn around and immediately say it’s basically only men that worked. For the bad majority of cultures and most of history, women were the ones who manufactured textiles. It’s almost universal. Even today, most clothing and textiles manufacturing work (by hand and by machine) is performed b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 12:53 PM
2	Women have no choice but to be privileged in dating, at least eventually. Its more of an exception and weird quirk of humans. It’s not a weird quirk, it’s a direct result of male selection and female competition. Human babies and children are the most profoundly difficult and time-consuming to raise of all animals in the animal kingdom. Attracting a man and keeping him around to help with that is extremely advantageous for human women, so female sexual competition for better mates has always been important. Humans are not polar beare where the male fucks a mate and th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 11:45 AM
4	Women have no choice but to be privileged in dating, at least eventually. Because at the end of the day, several hundred times more matches are several hundred times more matches. Never having to initiate, being able to afford to be shyer and still date, even men doing small gestures for you. These things are rooted in biology. All these comments are evidence that you think only top 10% Stacies are real women, and disregard all average and below average women. I never saw any of that shit you claim I got. I was ordinary (no, not fat) and mostly ignored. Your belief is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 11:40 AM
3	If women want to be hit on less, they should care about good deliberate dating outlets existing. No, that works once in a blue moon. Basically the same for men making cold approaches. It’s an extremely low success rate. And the most effective at it are usually running a con.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 12:40 AM
1	CMV: "meeting women IRL" doesn’t magically bypass women’s standards in 2026 and people should stop acting like it does I keep seeing this idea that "just meeting a woman in person" somehow “overrides” online preferences and everything that happens on dating apps. I don’t really buy that. It could provide her additional qualities she could be attracted to that cannot be experienced through an app For example, the sound of your voice, the way you smell, the way you move, the way you smile, the way you feel (e.g. dancing together), the way you interact together. Your charm. Your timing. Your wit. Chemistry. Spark. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/26 07:03 PM
–	Men on here are contradictory So you… live your life as a non-criminal “good guy” while hating on and avoiding the women who want non-criminal men. You want pussy and head, yet avoid those ugly boring women who have pussies... clever plan, dude. Some men cannot be helped. 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 09:23 PM
3	Men on here are contradictory Hypergamy, duh! I mean doh!	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 09:12 PM
–	Men on here are contradictory Always funny watching guys like you goon after the dumbest, worst fucking women alive while shitting endlessly on the nice girls you claim to prefer. Seriously, if you’re sad a hot criminal chaser doesn’t want you, you are exactly the same as the women you are criticizing: you want the bad girls.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 09:10 PM
7	If women want to be hit on less, they should care about good deliberate dating outlets existing. Many people do buy things from salespeople too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:19 AM
14	If women want to be hit on less, they should care about good deliberate dating outlets existing. Hmm. Most people (you included) don’t like being cold called by telemarketers. So maybe we should create some spaces where you volunteer to be hit up by telemarketers. A telemarketer safe space, if you will, where you can go to have your phone blown up. How many people will want to sign up for this? And do you think that will actually end the telemarketing calls outside of the “safe space”? Why or why not?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 12:08 AM
1	Women should not be taken seriously and there is a reason for it It wasn’t. Don’t worry so much. The OP was not a debate post at all. It’s just a “hey, aren’t women all a useless pile of shit? High five me bros if you agree” post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 12:03 AM
1	Men dont being anything to the table Look, I am not talking about "you" you. I don't care what your experience was. You are just a single person. And yet, if you establish some policy to “change the family structure” or whatever, it still affects my life. And also, I don’t particularly find your claim here appealing: saying “women women women women!… oh, but not you specifically. you don’t really count as a woman”. And I don't want you to have more sex. This is not what I mean by equality. If no one has sex at all, this is pretty e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 12:01 AM
6	Women should not be taken seriously and there is a reason for it True I didn’t waste time trying to convince a bigot with logic There is nothing I, as a lowly, dumb inherently inferior female, can do that he will take seriously, remember. There’s no point in wasting the effort on something so useless as arguing that I’m worthy of the respect of someone who is so unworthy of respect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 10:42 PM
–	Thirsty Men undercutting other Men that have principles, destroyed the value off Men, and we wont recover from this. Hardest Dating Market off all time by far No. It is estimated, based on genetic studies, that you have roughly twice the number of female ancestors as male. In other words, women were twice as likely to reproduce as men. Around 4,000 to 8,000 years ago, there was an extreme bottleneck where it is estimated that only around 1 man reproduced for every 17 women. I’m sure those 16/17 men had it harder than you. The Reason why a Top 50% Women, can easily marry a Top 15% Guy today Polygamy isn’t legal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 04:56 PM
–	Women should not be taken seriously and there is a reason for it One of the biggest hurdles for me is that it feels like most women rarely have an opinion that is truly their own. Meanwhile you regurgitate this, one of the oldest and least original boomer claims around. Old pedophile codgers in Ancient Greece said the same shit too, lol. You yourself aren’t having an original thought here either. You’re just religiously chanting some ancient bigoted feelings as your own. Can’t really take you seriously, either, lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 04:49 PM
2	Men dont being anything to the table I don't, you did not ask. Then I am asking right now. You say it is absolutely horrible that we fought a war to end slavery, and that we use government but do not do… something’s specified… to ensure men have “fair”dating compared to women. So what is the “something” you want done? Again, all the analogies you used involve the use of government force. Women did not fight a war against men for their right. There was no Great LGBT Revolution. There are different ways to fight for equality. Women m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 04:37 PM
2	Men dont being anything to the table No, plenty of men are awesome and they bring plenty to the table. As for inherently, maybe you’re just not straight or a woman? Some men look good, smell good, sound good, move good. It is pretty nice to enjoy the body of a guy you are actually attracted to. And I don’t want to be valued for just my body— I am so much more than just a pair of tits and an ass. Besides… your body doesn’t stay hot and pretty for all that long. I only want to be with someone who would still value me past my “peak fe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 02:53 PM
–	Men dont being anything to the table People who had slaves thought of them as lesser beings, this was normal thing for them. Do you think slavery is a reasonable analogy for your dating complaints? In the US, we fought a war to end slavery. Hundreds of thousands of me died for that practice to end… and yet slavery also continues on internationally to this day. And in the US, there’s still a bunch of people who are kinda mad about that civil war and think it was super unfair. “The war of northern aggression”. So by analogy, are you …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 02:34 PM
5	Men dont being anything to the table There are quota hiring In the US, quotas are absolutely and totally illegal. You are required to consider candidates of different sex, race, and other protected classes, but you are actually forbidden to use quotas. women representations in jobs is an important statisitc nowadays It is tracked and it is talked about… same way marriage statistics are also tracked and talked about. There is absolutely zero legal requirement for any individual to “do their part” to change those statistics. You are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 12:36 PM
5	Men dont being anything to the table Hiring isn’t “fair” either. You can be 100% perfectly qualified for the job and not get picked. Anybody who has applied for a job knows life isn’t fair. And actually, you also already have equal right to date men. You are perfectly free (now) to offer the “job” of dating you to men as well. To actually make dating fair in the same way as non-discrimination employment laws, that would mean requiring, by law, for straight men to equally consider dating other men. And I’m really really sure that’s …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 12:03 PM
2	Men dont being anything to the table It is already 100% legal (at least in the US) to be discriminatory and not hire a particular sex whenever the sex of the employee is relevant to their job. For a really clear example, Hollywood casting for the part of a new James Bond can ask for male actors only and does not have to consider any women if they don’t want. Likewise, if you are hiring for a male stripper club, you don’t have to interview any women period— they are not fit for the role “man taking off his clothes for an audience”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 11:33 AM
1	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization I have literally been having seven different arguments today. Believe what you want. I don’t care. You are still responsible for your words and your false accusations, even if you don’t want to have any accountability. You’ve exploded more than a dozen comments at me. It is still the truth that you blamed me for shit I didn’t say, a now you’re refusing to own your own fucked up lies. You put your dishonest lies in my mouth and bitched at me calling me a “misandrist” over bullshit you made up, an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 11:45 PM
1	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization I said most of you, not you yourself. You called me myself a misandrist. Now quote or stfu. You do not get to run away from your actual words. You said it, now back it up. my intentions are pure. Nonsense. You literally just tried a “you people” attack at me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 11:39 PM
1	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization No not really. It’s a real life distinction— I can easily identify, at a substantial distance, whether a bear is a panda or a grizzly. I can also tell you which kind of bear you will likely encounter based on mere geography. That is all impossible for men— there is no way to predict whether a man is dangerous at a glance based on either a brief glance at a distance or based on what part of the continent you’re in. It’s actually a relevant part to the question: you can know instantly what kind of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 09:43 PM
0	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization and several of you have already slipped up into denigrating men as a whole. You’re making the accusation that I said something to denigrate men because some other woman said it. Quote where you think I denigrated men. You can’t, because you are deliberately lying to make a false accusation. Absolutely profound dishonesty. Not a surprise you identify yourself with a dishonest criminal character, really. Gross.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 09:38 PM
1	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization and several of you have already slipped up and started denigrating men as a whole. “Several of you”— quote where I did that! It’s bullshit. You blame me for the words of “several of you” as if I’m part of some collective and I’m somehow responsible for the words of others. I did not say the shit you claim I did. You made that up. Quote exactly where you think I said what you claimed. Not what some other woman said that you blame me for. Me. You can’t, because I didn’t denigrate men. At all. You …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 09:35 PM
0	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization So no apologies for your lies or for calling all women dishonest manipulators. Or for insulting me personally for crap you made up about me. Misogyny with zero self awareness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 08:15 PM
0	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization Pandas are irrelevant I don’t recall the hypothetical saying I’m blind? Pandas are bears and easily identifiable at a distance, unlike dangerous men. The answer just depends on the kind of bear. 🤷‍♀️ Seriously, I point out that panda bears are pretty unlikely to kill you, and you threw a fucking hissy fit screaming “misandry!!!” at me. Like, maybe just chill and take a minor pedantic comment with a little less freaking out?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 07:51 PM
1	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization I genuinely thought you were a man. My gender is irrelevant to the discussion. You brought up that you thought I was a man… and then immediately contrasted that with how you see being a woman as a huge negative. “I thought you were a man, but you’re actually bad” is a pretty simple to understand English sentence structure. Saying bears are less dangerous than men does suggest misandry, and your inability to argue in good faith reinforces it. I did not say all bears are less dangerous than men. I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 04:21 PM
1	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization What are you talking about???😂 Your comment above: I genuinely thought you're a man, but thanks for demonstrating how women attempt to mislead and weaponize perceived victimhood. When you tried to act like being called a man is a compliment and being called a woman is shit. Lemme paraphrase: “At first I genuinely thought you were a man, but then I realized you’re a woman and women are all lying manipulative bitches”. Pretty clear you don’t like women, since you treat women as default lying, fake…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 02:48 PM
1	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization I did specify one: pandas, which have not any recorded human kills. And that made you go so fucking insane you told me to go cuddle a grizzly bear. I even already agreed that a grizzly bear or a polar bear is far more dangerous than most men… and your response to agreeing with you was to turn around to tell me to go die and then tried to pretend it was all a cutesy little “joke”. Deeply dishonest. And if being mauled to death by a bear is nothing but a joke to you, then why are you so completely…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 02:40 PM
0	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization It was a joke about "cuddling" with the bear that was so safe. What’s the joke? What’s the punchline? You were red hot mad and told me to go “cuddle” a grizzly. Like “haha I want you to go die getting attacked by a bear” isn’t a joke. Even when I had already stated that I know that a man would be safer than a grizzly… you still got so mad you wanted to tell me to go die a horrible death. Not nice. Not safe. Not mature.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 02:32 PM
1	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization I am not deleting anything, that bear is objectively safer than a man. (Right???) Most bears, sure, and most men, sure. I literally already said I would choose a man over a bear for most species of bear. But here you are trying to play like you’re some kind of put-upon abused victim because… I don’t immediately cuddle every strange man I see? Good grief, are you a sensitive little snowflake. But again, I think I am also 100% correct to say that seeing a panda bear in some bamboo forest is safer …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 02:04 PM
1	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization The question was seeing someone in the woods, not about cuddling. The fact that you think a random woman in the woods is obligated to “cuddle” you is exactly why women should avoid men like you. But yep, you did inadvertently answer my question: the reason you’re so mad is that you think women are supposed to spread their legs for any guy she sees in the woods, and it upsets you when they won’t fuck on command. You’re exactly the kind of man women’s fathers warn them about— the kind of guy who w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 12:56 PM
7	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization Just a few extremely powerful and/or influential men Martin Luther: “God created man with a broad chest, not broad hips, so that in that part of him he can be wise; but that part out of which filth comes is small. In a woman this is reversed. That is why she has much filth and little wisdom.” “when women speak well, it is not praiseworthy. It befits them to stammer and not be able to speak well; that adorns them much better. ” Napoleon: “In France, women are considered too [much], they shouldn't…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 12:52 PM
1	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization Good lord you are so fucking worked up that women don’t automatically assume a strange man is safe. I made a cheeky comment about how yeah, actually pandas never killed a person and no, pandas do not have “the worst bite of all bears”, and you respond to that with a huge wild rant written out of massive offense that women are cautious of men they don’t know. Good grief, I wasn’t gonna pick the bear in general… but I’d pick a bear over someone showing obvious signs of insanity if that were the qu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 11:56 AM
3	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization Pandas bite in captivity when the person is right up next to them. Pandas do not chase humans down to harm them. And lol, that’s complete nonsense you made up to be a little contrarian. Polar bear bites are fatal. There are almost no panda bites to compare to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 12:31 AM
10	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization Who says they didn't? Your misandrist professor? The words those men wrote themselves if their own free will. Religion writings. Political rights for women. You don’t need any made up misandrist straw-puppet brainwashing professor to just read how men write about women before the modern era. Read some historical writings from men about how they felt about the women. There’s a lot more historical writings declaring women inferior and subordinate to men than there are writings declaring women to b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 12:28 AM
2	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization Or pandas. There’s apparently zero cases of a panda killing a human. Can’t say the same for humans…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 09:35 PM
9	"Man or Bear" argument is a striking example of women's tendency towards in-group sensationalism and overdramatization but I don't think that "modern" women even understand what idyllic femininity actually is to a man. So what? If it was so important to men, then historically, they’d have treated women as real equals, instead of regarding women as inferiors. Pretty clear it doesn’t mean all that much to men. 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 09:32 PM
6	There is no benefits to having kids as a women Lol thats like saying there is no benefit for a men providing for a women. Most men today are not providers and many who are do not want to be and deeply resent it. So not really a great argument to her post. Men usually want to be a provider specifically for the benefits, and they think they’re getting cheated if they don’t get loads of benefits.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 06:27 PM
3	Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less" Yeah, it’s a mix of both. It having no public accountability and no clear universal measure of success does make it less noticeable… But likewise, there’s a thousand professional jobs like that that have no obvious direct metric of success. Why is raising the future of our civilization the one job where we just culturally shrug our collective shoulders and way “eh, it’s too impossible for anyone to see the value in it, better not try”? (Not you… but definitely 100% all the dudes who think “how d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 05:40 PM
4	Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less" The modern trad dudes are definitely a weird contradiction: “Women! You neeeeeeeed to stay home and raise the children and do the chores!!1! Oh but also if you do, then you’re inferior and don’t deserve any protections or a safety net, and we will never respect you because all that feminine work is worthless compared to my important man work building civilization all my myself”. 🙄 Of course, I’m not sure it was any different in the past either. It’s not like most men historically thought of thei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 05:20 PM
1	Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less" And frankly, it would be kinda fucked up if they didn’t Seems rather fucked up to me that so many men scold women for something they would never do themselves. Funny how you scold women if they do exactly the thing so many men pride themselves on: being a wage slave. 🤷‍♀️ though women who don’t want to be home with their kids are typically covertly acknowledging they reproduced with the wrong dude No, she’s reproduced with the wrong dude if he prioritizes his paycheck over family time and shits …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 05:11 PM
13	Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less" I don’t think that’s a good argument for this invisibility. That entropy is exactly the same in a ton of jobs— lots and lots of paid work is “business as usual” jobs that “keep the lights on”, in corporate speak. They are not noticeable unless they observe you… which they always do! The work is exactly the same as usual, and yet it is always still observed, judged, and tracked in a job. I would also point out that innovation work is far from the majority of work that gets paid and done. Then on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 11:28 AM
1	Women hate arranged marriages because it brutally proves they are incompetent children who get better results when others choose for them. I’m a nice man who says nice things to nice ladies. I don’t care. I have told you twice it is rude: you continuing to blast me with it is deliberately insulting. And don’t make up lies: you do not think I’m a “nice lady”. You literally spent multiple comments screaming at me calling me a racist in a dishonest little emotional tantrum. Most women practically melt with gratitude when I call them sweetheart I don’t care? I told you I don’t like it and consider it insulting, and I found out you don’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/26 11:21 PM
–	Women hate arranged marriages because it brutally proves they are incompetent children who get better results when others choose for them. Nah, sweetheart, oh wait, that’s the exact endearment my uncles and cousins have used for their wives and daughters for generations in our ethnic community. Totally disingenuous. You are not my family, and in most conservative cultures, it is extremely offensive to treat a strange woman like she is family. You know this. You are instead using overly familiar terms to try to put me in my place as a woman, who you see as beneath you. You are not my husband or my uncles or my father or my brothers—…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/26 11:53 AM
2	Women hate arranged marriages because it brutally proves they are incompetent children who get better results when others choose for them. Sweetheart, that’s precious. This is condescending, sexist and pointlessly rude, so I don’t buy one second of your false accusations of “racism” that you’re actually offended, lol. I really don’t care what race you are— telling you to go back to where your values actually align is not racist. It’s culturalist, and I’m telling you to do that precisely because you are so deeply unhappy with the cultural values you’re bitching about. suddenly it’s “just culture, bro.” You’re the one calling western…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 11:28 PM
3	Women hate arranged marriages because it brutally proves they are incompetent children who get better results when others choose for them. Real liberal of you and totally not racist. I don’t care about your little shaming tactics, because you are quite wrong. Nothing I said has anything to do with race, only culture. It is not racist to tell you that your desire for arranged marriage is not western at all, and has not been a practice in western countries for millennia. It is also not racist to tell you that if it upsets you so much that western women don’t like arranged marriages, then you would be much much happier living somewher…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 09:29 PM
2	What's the most annoying debate tactic you see from the opposite gender on this sub? Feminist means “woman I don’t like” to some folks. Guys like that think feminists are everywhere— because they don’t like any women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 04:16 PM
1	What's the most annoying debate tactic you see from the opposite gender on this sub? One I’ve seen here frequently: Woman: makes an argument Dude: (gets angry) why are you so emotional!?! Proceeds to argue exclusively about how he thinks the woman feels instead of actually addressing the point. It’s so annoying and so ancient. Like, it’s such a stupid Victorian era dismissal, yet it is still used sometimes by modern young men. Edit to add: Also (and this is specific to the pillosphere): circular logic and logical inconsistency… often while also ironically insisting men are inh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 04:15 PM
3	Women hate arranged marriages because it brutally proves they are incompetent children who get better results when others choose for them. Arranged marriages are culturally extremely foreign, and have been for millenia in western culture. Like seriously, women in the west don’t hate them because “it’s so much better”, 🤣. They literally do not see any successful happy arranged marriages ever, at all. Is reason they hate arranged marriages is the same reason they hate wearing a burka— it’s weird tribal unfamiliar oppressive alien cultural stuff they think is stupid and backwards and controlling. Western men and women also just don’t …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 02:55 PM
3	Egalitarian relationships are inherently skewed in favour of women No kidding. He’s literally taking pride in the idea of disrespecting whoever he’s with, then blames women for his perverse obsession with treating her like shit. Like… 😒. Eughgh. Sounds like he built his whole life philosophy out of some weird free online degradation porn shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 02:33 PM
1	Why do you think women are hypergamous? Lol, you want me to find a man so rare he is genuinely below average in every possible way? Just as it is incredibly rare to find a person who is above average in every single possible way… it is equally rare to find someone who is truly below average in every single possible way! Just look at what your premise is here: if the man is merely above average in 1 way, no matter how many negative traits he has, then she is hypergamous and he is superior to her. And yet on the flip side, no matter how…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 12:57 PM
0	Why do you think women are hypergamous? Nobody gives a shit about effort— a dude who works his aas off and gets nowhere is not admired. Only results matter. Women don’t give a shit about your vain gym routine, and neither does anyone else. And likewise, many feminine traits do require quite a lot of effort: being nurturing, kind, agreeable, graceful, and gentle all require effort. Yet you do not ever consider these worthy of counting as “marrying up” for a man, becasue you do not actualy admire or respect these traits either in themse…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 11:44 AM
3	Why do you think women are hypergamous? It’s hypergamy to them because masculine traits are good and worthy of admiration to them, and feminine traits are dull and inferior. You being attracted to strength must mean strength is superior because (according to them) women are always hypergamous, so anything women are attracted to must prove superiority. In contrast, anything a man is attracted to is nothing of importance. A man being attracted to bigger breasts doesn’t mean anything, because men don’t value something like that. If a wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/26 07:43 PM
6	Why do you think women are hypergamous? They insist on it as a core part of their “a man should be in charge and his woman should be submissive to his direction” world view. Believing a man is automatically superior, somehow, is critical to their desire for a woman who is subordinate to the man’s choices and flatters him with admiration and praise. In other words, it is emotionally very important to red pill men to not respect their girlfriends/wives, and to view her as automatically lesser. Their belief in female hypergamy is entirel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/26 07:38 PM
3	Men don't want the average women When men say they find 80% or more of women attractive, they are absolutely ignoring the fact that way more than 20% of women are old and/or very fat. 18% of the US population is 65 or older, and that’s not counting any other reasons men find a woman unattractive. None of the young men here claiming they are attracted to almost all women is actually being accurate. So yeah, they are subconsciously trimming out women they find unattractive, or virtue signaling. And nothing I said has anything to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/26 04:01 PM
8	Men don't want the average women I’m fairly sure at least some men don’t consider unattractive women to actually be women. When they say they want the average woman, it’s because they don’t consider most women to be “real women”. Youre only really a woman if you’re hot. (Even though I already specified this is just some men, I will clarify once more that it is not all men by any means. But it is likely all the ones who claim they are attracted to almost all the women they see. They’re either virtue signaling or de-feminizing wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/26 01:21 PM
–	Social Skills are underrated as a Man, and every man that claims its not that relevant has never seen a really charismatic man. Yep. I don’t know what “it” is, but your girlfriend’s got it, lol. I say this as a woman who definitely doesn’t have “it”. I do think people can somewhat cultivate “it”… but only to some extent. There are some people who just instinctively are irresistible. I know I will never ever, no matter how much I practice or train, have “it”. There’s some people who are just so incredibly naturally magnetic, and lol, I know I’m not one of them. I’m definitely naturally on the other side of it— naturally u…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/26 01:16 PM
–	Social Skills are underrated as a Man, and every man that claims its not that relevant has never seen a really charismatic man. Part of the reason guys don’t recognize the value of charisma in men is that they attribute it purely to looks, especially when the charismatic person is a woman. There are some really charismatic women who just really absolutely draw men to them well out of proportion to their raw appearance… and men drawn to her will mistakenly believe it was just all looks. But if that same woman had a boring demeanor or was aloof or frigid or dull or reserved (not cute flirty bashful shy, which is what they …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/26 11:32 AM
0	Feminists will pick and choose whenever they see men as a colletive. Yes, these “men built society all by themselves” guys do not respect any of the work done by women at all. Ever. They view women as cute pets and nothing more. Certainly not as people capable of anything of worth. What they want from women is endless praise and adoration (see also their obsession with calling women “hypergamous”), and what they want to give to women in return is nothing but control, disrespect, and degradation. It’s 100% about praising themselves and shitting on women. Edit: to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 04:33 PM
5	cmv: Woman are naturally hypergamous, and society is structured in such a way to subvert this natural state with laws that benefit men and woman, or, Remember the Walrus Right, but Epstein and his ilk are also a weird diversion from the subject at hand. Not really. They are powerful me who use their power to round up women for their personal harems. Similarly, Elon pays women lots and lots of money to bear his children— women have to be paid a lot of money to do this. If it were inherent and natural for women to be hypergamously drawn to be part of a high status man’s “harem”, the richest man on earth wouldn’t have to pay them to do it. Likewise, you ignored the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 04:27 PM
8	cmv: Woman are naturally hypergamous, and society is structured in such a way to subvert this natural state with laws that benefit men and woman, or, Remember the Walrus Why would you focus on the actual practice of harems? Why? it’s just one of many examples I gave. Did you stop reading after the first sentence? Non-monogamy is how men have frequently used their power, and still often do today. Epstein is pretty modern— lots of those disgusting, evil old ~men~ child rapists are still alive. I know a guy who slept with over a 100 women. Sounds a whole lot like a man who doesn’t like monogamy and wants to fuck around, same as the women he fucked. And I bet most o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 02:59 PM
18	cmv: Woman are naturally hypergamous, and society is structured in such a way to subvert this natural state with laws that benefit men and woman, or, Remember the Walrus So many woman, one man, a common pattern. The most common cases of harems are strictly enforced by men. Actual harems had women in cages under armed eunuch guards. Traditional momon polygamy involved the religious elders forcing out the actualy attractive young men that young women actualy wanted so they could force 13 year old girls to be their wife-servants. Polygamy globally today usually involves forced marriage and child rape. And then you run your mouth off claiming it’s *women being “hype…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 02:53 AM
2	So how do you know that a guy is not a fuckboy? Yeah, sorry, typo or autocorrect. It should read: ‘ Slutty men are usually proud of fucking around and assume women will find it impressive and attractive if he says he is “experienced”. ‘	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 02:45 AM
14	So how do you know that a guy is not a fuckboy? How do you know that a man just wants you for sex? What are the signals? What were your experiences? I have never in my life dated (or had sex with) a man who just wanted me for sex. The guys who just wanted sex just somehow coincidentally pursued women who are hotter, dressed sexier, were more flirtatious, and acted more sexually alluring than me. Fuckbois didn’t even bother trying even a first date with someone as boring and plain as me, lol. I probably also put out really strong vibes that I’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 07:58 PM
3	If women treated men like men treat women we would love it. You’re cherry picking specific behaviors. Like yeah, you’d love it if hot women simped for you the way some men simp for hot women. But a whole lot of men absolutely fucking hate it when any woman shows him the same lack of respect he has for women. It’s even in the red pill side bar for men to want deferential respect from women and for men not to give her respect in return. Men who don’t get the respect they feel they deserve often get violent. I won’t claim that’s all men, but a whole lot of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 11:55 AM
1	Why is it that young women are so into kinky sex? I'm white. Yes white women are shaming themselves all over the world. I cannot imagine you seriously believe white men are not capable of being racist, dude. Hahahahah! The fact that you hate white women as well as black men is all just standard racism. You being white does not absolve you of your abhorrent beliefs. You still sit around deciding which women deserve to be hated based on empty associations— basic racism. I am ashamed on your behalf. By association I am not ashamed because unlike y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 08:57 PM
1	Why is it that young women are so into kinky sex? Exactly as I expected— you’re a racist eager to paint some women as “good” of she’s from your homeland, while painting any other women as deserving your horrible mistreatment and slander. And you blame women for your own gluttonous consumption of this gonzo porn you love so much. Typical— absolutely zero accountability of your own behavior: no self control, constant sin and blame someone else. Absolutely disgusting. Like I said, your thoughts are the same as the rapists who look for women they c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 06:25 PM
3	Why is it that young women are so into kinky sex? I just said that I only blame certain women, learn to read. Ah, that’s true, you just said it’s all “western” women. You blame all of us for your bizarre obsession with sex and the city, or whatever. It is unfortunately too common for certain men of poor morals to claim “women of not my culture are all sexually degenerate” so they can justify abusing them whenever they see them, and then blaming the woman herself for his hateful, evil behavior. Your logic is exactly the logic used by rape apolog…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 05:46 PM
3	Why is it that young women are so into kinky sex? I do praise good women. I love them. I know how hard it is to be a good women Nonsense, you jut spent your entire last comment blaming women. All women. Here you do it again: when all of female western sexual culture is smacking you in the face over and over And yet again: I hate women who are corrupting other women, brainwashing them with their group think. Here you are blaming all of us, claiming we are nothing but stupid group think dumbdumbs who are 100% responsible for all your own bad choi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 02:48 PM
5	Why is it that young women are so into kinky sex? So you blame women exclusively for any choice a man makes in dating. Is an example that “male accountability” that red pillers keep bragging about? I’m certainly not impressed. No, women don’t “control” the sexual market place. Men and women both make their own individual decisions on who to date and how to act around each other. But nice try at deflecting all responsibility for your own foolish choices. And do you hold me personally responsible for the choices of other men and women? If a man i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 12:49 PM
3	Why is it that young women are so into kinky sex? Yeah I’d agree there, then. Just like phone screens have made porn infinitely accessible (and more “out there”).	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 12:30 PM
6	Why is it that young women are so into kinky sex? Nobody claimed all women are perfect, and it’s silly for you to expect every woman to consistently make good life choices or else you won’t respect any of them. Like… women are the equals of men. A lot of men are fucking stupid or completely fuckin nuts, right? So why are you so shocked not all women are sane and smart?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 12:29 PM
6	Why is it that young women are so into kinky sex? It’s very likely it doesn’t mean she is asking you to nearly kill her. Squeezing someone’s neck in any way can result in very serious damage, even if you think you know what you’re doing. Doubly so if it’s a dude who doesn’t know his own strength and women’s necks’ anatomy and strength and doesn’t know how weak the hyoid bone is or how quickly you can cause brain damage by applying pressure the wrong way to the neck. And even if he thinks he can do it all just right… how well does he moderate hi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 12:42 AM
19	Why is it that young women are so into kinky sex? I dunno, bodice ripper romance novels have been around for decades. They weren’t called “bodice rippers” because the dudes in them were just so respectful. I just don’t think the weird twisted dark smut is all that new.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/26 11:24 PM
2	We will never get true gender equality in society. Because whenever equality shows up, a lot of women see it as misogynistic. It is also a lie that “80%” of men get statistically 0.001 messages from women per week and nothing else for their entire lives. Most men are nowhere near “essentially nothing” in the bigger picture. You are incredibly misinformed about the statistics if you think 80% of men have never touched and will never touch a woman in their whole lives. Stop stewing yourself up about online dating stats where there are many times as many men as women and actually look at statistics beyond “what percent of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 11:22 PM
–	We will never get true gender equality in society. Because whenever equality shows up, a lot of women see it as misogynistic. You exact words were: for 80 percentiles worth of males, they get nothing. Your words. Not mine. And insulting me personally (calling me “a manipulative woman”) for your unwillingness to own your own words is ironically very manipulative of you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 04:44 PM
3	We will never get true gender equality in society. Because whenever equality shows up, a lot of women see it as misogynistic. These countries and cultures didn't magically implement this form of female subjugation because men en masse wanted to enslave women. This is irrelevant: the outcome is exactly the same. You claimed it was impossible for men to organize and subjugate women, and yet it clearly is possible because it has happened. It comes from regressive moral belief systems And 100% male-controlled organized religions operating in 100% male governments that that demand complete obedience and groveling submission…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 04:40 PM
3	We will never get true gender equality in society. Because whenever equality shows up, a lot of women see it as misogynistic. The co founder of ok Cupid wrote that 80% of men are kissless touchless virgins? Ok, then he is also wrong. And no one cares that you disagree because you are both wrong. Stop basing your entire life on data apps stats: the apps themselves are overwhelmingly male. Yeah, of course only 20% of men are gonna get attention on an app where men outnumber women on the app 5 to 1. What do you expect, exactly, for every woman on the app to run a train with 5 men to make things “fair”? All so then you cou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 03:08 PM
-1	We will never get true gender equality in society. Because whenever equality shows up, a lot of women see it as misogynistic. A biased perspective… is that some women have actually been enslaved? Are you familiar with history or current events at all? Are you allergic to facts? It’s not biased to acknowledge that, for example, women in Afghanistan today legally cannot leave their homes without a male master and are legally prohibited from speaking in public. You claim what has actually happened in reality is impossible. The real reason you’re “not going to bother” is because you don’t want to acknowledge any men anywhe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 03:02 PM
3	Q4W: Where Should A Man Actually Go To Meet You? Just once. I hit on someone because of misreading signals, next thing I knew I had a shit reputation in my uni group and only my loyal male friends were ok to hang out with me. Sorry, that does suck. I will agree people can be unreasonable— I had a friend who had to switch universities because everyone she knew (friends there included) turned on her when she dumped her abusive boyfriend. (And before anyone jumps in a claims it was a false accusation, I met the guy later when she considered getti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 02:52 PM
1	We will never get true gender equality in society. Because whenever equality shows up, a lot of women see it as misogynistic. the data actually shows that men show interest linearly according to attractiveness percentile. With an exception at high percentile women. So men are actually very reasonable here. Men are not “reasonable” about their attraction, lol. Attraction is not built on reason, period. Not for men and not for women. You have never once spoken to a woman and decided she was attractive based on logic 🤣 But yes, I am aware that a whole lot of men would gladly fuck anyone vaguely female shaped any time, if …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 02:38 PM
2	Q4W: Where Should A Man Actually Go To Meet You? a lot of women apparently get very sour or just scared when a man approaches and it falls short. The man is directly labelled a creep. Then move on and try someone else friendlier another time. A lot of women don’t get terrified any time a man talks to her, so hopefully that’s the kind of woman you talk with next time. Some girl being sour or even calling you a “creep” doesn’t really mean anything. The police aren’t gonna throw you in the clink overnight for walking up to a woman and saying “hi”…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 12:48 PM
1	We will never get true gender equality in society. Because whenever equality shows up, a lot of women see it as misogynistic. It would never ever happen… except for all the times it already did happen. Men did actually enslave women (including their own wives and daughters) in some parts of the world today and in history. Sooo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 12:08 PM
2	We will never get true gender equality in society. Because whenever equality shows up, a lot of women see it as misogynistic. or if it will continue to be a form of glorified modern chivalry And yet so often it is men who are the ones who bring up chivalry to try to put women in their place. Why is it always men who expect me to be soooo grateful for such minor stuff I never asked for? I can open doors for myself. Stop trying to act like you opening a door for someone is some great heroic act that I’m supposed to grovel and worship men for. I’ll say a quick thanks and open the door for the next person, no condescending…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 11:50 AM
1	We will never get true gender equality in society. Because whenever equality shows up, a lot of women see it as misogynistic. Just another example of dudes only ever noticing the very hottest 10% of women. Nobody bought me shit or “lavished me with gifts” for just existing, lol, and it’s just fine. Really honestly! You are unfortunately too completely obsessed with Instagram baddies and models and porn stars to notice the actual equality staring you in the face: the looks match women you ignore completely. I’m pretty happy with equality here, though. Cannot believe you’re whining that you’re not a spoiled little prince…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 11:46 AM
3	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. Any western woman who wants to have casual sex can just go do it. And most don’t want to. But even if she doesn’t, you will still assume she did anyways. That’s why you need casual sex to be forbidden for women— because you assume all western women are sluts. That is nonsensical. It is what you have already assumed above, that almost all western women are sluts and it’s too hard for you to find one who isn’t. That’s not paranoia, it’s just the underlying premise of your comment. Can't be a ball …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 02:55 PM
3	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. You’d still assume in your head she always wanted casual sex and doesn’t really “genuinely” desire you. Hell, you will still assume your girlfriend is having casual sex, regardless of facts. And likewise… how is she supposed to cope with the fact that what he really really want is casual sex, and he is only settling for her because he can’t get the pumping and dumping he really wants? I can’t imagine wanting to be the old “ball and chain” to a dude whose only true desire in life is to fuck rando…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/26 11:17 AM
1	The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argument Of course it would be, because it's on paper. The second law of thermodynamics is not violated by paper, lol. Entropy in a closed system always increases. Paper does not bypass the laws of physics. Ok good, if her bodily autonomy includes the pregnancy, then it's only logical that she goes first declaring her intentions. Thats not logic, thats your feelings. It is obviously more logical for each person to declare their decision at the last moment they have the ability to change their actual acti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 07:42 PM
1	Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain about I was disagreeing with your initial claim. No. My initial claim was that it is easier to lie convincingly in a text. I absolutely did not claim reading body language could “factually discern a lie”— that is a dull strawman you made up. You are being deliberately obtuse and making up things I did not say at all. If lies like that are how you treat people on dating platforms, then it is not surprising you think you’re so good at sussing out lies in text: it’s confirmation bias. You just make up th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 11:49 AM
2	The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argument You can't actually undo abortion, but you can actually undo a paper abortion. It is actually very easy to undo. Why would it be? Legally scrapping your parental rights is a permanent action. Birth parents have zero rights to their child after they give them up for adoption. Same with sperm donors. Since her bodily autonomy is supposedly more important - she is the one who informs him. Hers isnt “more important”. It is simply that her bodily autonomy includes the pregnancy inside her body., where…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 09:50 AM
1	Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain about Body language factually can’t inform you of how the person actually feels or thinks or if they’re lying. Neither can texts. There are no 100% guarantees in anything in life except that everyone will die. If you need to have a guarantee that everything be 100% perfectly proven all the time, then why are you dating at all? Nothing can ever factually enable you to read someone’s mind. Least of all text messages. But talking in person is a lot better at that than text at discerning honesty, actually…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 08:55 AM
1	Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain about No, body language communicates a lot. Text communicates only a fraction of what the spoken word does. I’m not trying to get personal at you, but are you autistic? Because “body language doesn’t mean anything” is simply not true to most neurotypical people in the least. Humans evolved to be actually very good at reading and responding to bodily gestures, facial expressions etc. Messaging in the app is what is meaningless. Again, it’s way easier to lie or even just fake entirely and have ChatGPT d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 01:12 AM
2	Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain about Yep. That is another good point. And there’s kind of an unspoken obligation to stick around and be polite (even if it’s going horribly!) if the date is expensive, from both sides. If it’s a coffee date or a bagel date or a beer or an ice cream— just something casual— then it’s so much easier for both of you to cut it short with no hard feelings. And if it’s going well, it’s also much easier to do more from there, where both of you can clearly signal “I like you” by extending the date or setting …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 01:04 AM
0	You’re not a good person just because you proclaim so. You underestimate men in their capability to want almost any woman’s No, you underestimate men in your profound misandry. Most normal non-criminal men are not willing to marry just any trashy bizarre criminal-seeking missile. You included. Sure, a lot more of them genuinely don’t care at all if it’s just sex, but for a relationship, her personality does usually matter for the vast majority of men. Men who actually don’t care at all and would eagerly marry any creature with a vagina are the excep…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 12:57 AM
0	You’re not a good person just because you proclaim so. The chances that you find someone that wants you and you want in return increase the higher the number of people that are interested in you is. Not if you appeal to lots and lots of people you don’t want and fail to appeal to the people you do want. For example, if you do somehow do get swamped with tons of attention from serial killer chasers, and no other women, that doesn’t actually increase your chances. You are making the mistake of viewing women as interchangeable and women’s interest as t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 08:34 PM
1	You’re not a good person just because you proclaim so. No, if you want an actual relationship, the number of women interested doesn’t matter at all as long as there is exactly one who you want who also wants you in return. The number of women interested only matters if you want a harem. Bitterness that the genuinely awful, insane women who write letters to famous serial killers don’t know you and don’t want a non-famous, non-serial killer is really odd if what you want is a stable relationship. Many good men who you would respect and who are not ser…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 05:39 PM
1	Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain about Disagree entirely. The app communicates almost nothing. It’s sterile boring still photos plus maybe a few lines of awkward stilted texting. It’s also way easier to lie via text because you have zero read on their body language. Hell, folks today probably even just use chat gpt to handle the task. Modern dating apps give even less information on real compatibility than they used to. So no you cannot suss out compatibility beyond a very very few things on a dating app. And meeting in person is the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 05:28 PM
5	Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain about Yes. I’m a huge fan of the coffee date or the “let’s meet for a beer” date. It makes sense that neither of you is “invested” in each other yet. It’s a quick, low-stakes way to see how you like each other in person. Requiringit to be some expensive, involved thing also means raising the stakes and the pressure. I am way more a fan of low-pressure meetings where there were no future expectations. I didn’t want the kind of pressure that comes with a big involved event.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 05:24 PM
1	Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain about Men might have encouraged it …. But so have women. And likewise, making a dude pay a bunch of money on a first date is not the only way (or the best way) to evaluate whether a guy is just a fuckboy or interested in a real relationship. There’s plenty of deceptive men who will be willing to just shell out some cash like you’re hooker so he can get quick sex. Him spending money is sometimes possibly a signal he’s interested, but it’s no guarantee, and it also means he might view you as high mainte…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 05:17 PM
4	Men falsely claim that women lie about their preferences because they believe men are great. It’s an extreme example, that exactly demonstrates the truth of what I said. Almost nobody thinks they are actually the villain, not even mass murderers. A man thinking he is a good guy is completely meaningless— it’s just how nearly all people think. And unfortunately, the men online here saying “women are all such rotten shallow bitches because they women always choose the bad guy instead of a good guy like me” are actually demonstrating clear signs that they are not good guys at all. Wouldn’t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 02:55 PM
6	Men falsely claim that women lie about their preferences because they believe men are great. Even the most evil, horrible people don’t think they’re a “bad person”. Some of the guys who say they’re a “good guy”and are mad that women don’t go for the “good guy” are not actually good guys at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 01:00 PM
4	The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argument Ah ok, so rules for thee but not for me. Nope, a permanent committed decision you make just before the last actual action you can physically take and cannot actually undo. There is no difference of consequence for him whether he has to decide before sex or waits and waits until after she’s knocked up— but there is a real difference in her being able to decide whether to avoid getting pregnant by avoiding sex with all the information at hand. The pregnancy affects her and not him at all. Wym if h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 12:50 PM
3	Do you offer to pay for your own food and drinks in the early stages of dating? I always did (and I meant it!). I paid for both of us on some cases (I invited the guy out, or it was my turn on date 2 or whatever). Aside from just being fair and polite, it also has the side benefit of accurately communicating to the guy that I’m not interested in fulfilling trad roles and being a stay at home wife. If the guy gets offended or is excessively pushy about him paying the bill, or if he never lets me pay, then he’s inflexible and not compatible with someone like me, who likes to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 08:46 AM
5	The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argument No, because she is the only one with any consequences in this scenario, so no, she can still change her mind. There is no take-backs in abortion, and so there would be no take-backs on a “paper abortion” for a man either. If he signs up to have 0 responsibility for any consequences of sex then the responsibility for a child is 100% on the woman anyways from that moment on. He wanted to walk away and wants nothing to do with her or her possible children— neither she nor any children she has are l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 08:08 AM
5	The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argument Wait, WHAT?! Are these men raping these women? Nobody said anything about rape except you. What kind of person are you that you think that being honest about your willingness to support a child is rape? Why do you trivialize rape like this? The women are choosing to have sex with men ALSO!! Yes they are. And both parties should be fully informed. If you are insisting all of the consequences and responsibility for sex should lie 100% on the woman alone, then it is only fair that she be enabled to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 08:00 AM
13	The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argument No, not before the abortion window closes. They should formally forfeit their rights before having sexual contact with the woman. The woman should be 100% informed that he will guaranteed bail before there is any risk of pregnancy whatsoever— and he cannot change his mind or ever see the kid if she decides to have the child either. That is the closest to actually being fair that is possible. But the guys here arguing for “paper abortions” won’t accept that kind of fairness because they don’t wan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 02:36 AM
12	Why are women so much more concerned with the idea of “doing better” than men are? If one of the guys in my friend group brought a fat, ugly, smelly woman that has a shitty job, or no job at all, we wouldnt judge him. My guy friends discussed then set up a gentle 1:1 “you deserve better, and we’re here for you if you need us” intervention with another guy friend when he was dating a girl who wasn’t good enough. (Her being fat wasn’t the core issue… but she was mean and a mooch and controlling). Whereas women judge their friends partners much more harshly. Ok, that’s your opini…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/26 04:22 PM
3	Men try to gatekeep standards Have you heard of prostitution before? Some women will accept payment to do things that “make them look crappy”. And some men, like you, cannot want to believe a pretty girl could ever possibly be like that because of the halo effect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/26 03:01 PM
2	Why are men obsessed with “submissive”women? They hone in on the descriptive word "submissive" because that is what the end product looks like. You think they don’t know what the word “submit” means at all? I suppose that’s a fair possibility: there are a lot of people who don’t know what the words they use mean. See also “literally”. But they also fight tooth and nail to use the word submissive anyways when challenged with its actual definition. Like the definition is really easy to look up. It also doesn't help that modern women are not …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/26 11:55 AM
2	If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options. You are getting angrier and more defensive No. You are making up fantasies about me in your head. I am not angry, you are projecting. Men done did you wrong No. Stop making personal attacks. so you decided to trash talk men as a group No. I trash talked the annoying men in this sub who say looks are all that matters. It is not my fault you decided to take offense and play the victim. You're now in full-blown toddler tantrum mode because your glass house just got hit. Uh... no? You seem to be ver…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/26 02:43 AM
2	Some men think that deconstruction of gender norms means that they should be attractive no matter what. I dont care what feminists say or stop saying. Yeah I know. Your comment that I replied to was nothing but hostile trolling. U thought I was a guy and start going hostile in me and then u call me hostile. I never cared if you were a man or a woman. Your comment I responded to was sneering, trolling, condescending, and totally ridiculous. I treated it with the snark it deserved, and now you’re playing the victim and acting all hurt and pissy about it. You expect nice treatment while being mean— t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 08:45 PM
–	Men often demand unconditional admiration while making women earn basic treatment Well also the problem that a lot of guys here think “asshole” means “tall”. This sub is so weird, lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 03:16 PM
–	Men often demand unconditional admiration while making women earn basic treatment That’s 100% the case for all the “men built society and protect you, so you lowly females should worship me” breed of perpetually online dweebs. And there’s some element of this in other men, particularly some trad religious men, who expect some form of gratitude and admiration from women for merely being born male. I don’t think it’s universal though. Lots of men are also capable of treating women like individuals and don’t expect bowed heads and a submissive groveling apologetic tone before th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 01:29 PM
2	Why are men obsessed with “submissive”women? No accountability for your own words and usage, it’s all just “everything is all women’s fault”. If submissive really only meant respectful and non-quarrelsome to you, then you’d know that good women also prefer cooperative, competent, non-quarrelsome, respectful men as long as he’s also attractive looking enough (which men require in a woman too, before you complain about that). If you think you have to be a bad person to get women, it’s because you’re obsessed with bad and criminal women, not …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 11:50 AM
2	Some men think that deconstruction of gender norms means that they should be attractive no matter what. Considering your only response is to directly insult me, I agree you should bow out. First thing you’ve said that’s accurate here: you’re way too angry to discuss anything rationally.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 11:39 AM
–	Why do men “neg” women? outdated I will admit I have noticed the red pill overall has mostly stopped pushing some of their older problematic shit. Like, it’s been a while since I’ve seen red pillers push negging, “last minute resistance” (that one was troubling!), captain/first mate… they’ve also mostly dropped some of their really cringey catch phrases (“shit eating grin”, “maintain frame”, Granted, they’ve traded some of those for new garbage (even deeper obsession with Chad, black pill lookism, hyperfocus on Tinder,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 04:36 PM
–	Typical workday hours are just as bad for men as they are for women I have literally never seen anyone argue this: “8-5 is not suitable for women because they have 28 day cycles instead of 24 hour cycles.“ It sounds about as logically sound as the much more popular claim that Hillary Clinton (a post-menopausal woman during the election) would have been a bad president because her periods would make her launch a nuke 🙄. Idiots will throw any soggy spaghetti claims at the wall to see what sticks. This argument that women are hormonally incapable of working sounds …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 04:12 PM
2	If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options. You seem angry and defensive. 🙄 I don’t care the feelings you project on me. Your feelings about what you assume are my feelings are totally irrelevant always. I just turned your group's collective You got pissy that I generalized about what a lot of men on this sub say about themselves, and decided to lash out and slut shame me and all other women. You were not being reasonable, you were being mean on purpose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 02:21 PM
7	Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when dating I sure as hell didn’t post the honest truth when I was a virgin on dating apps! Lol, what an awful idea. My inbox would have been full of nasty shit if I had: either men like you calling me a lying slut or creepy virgin fetish slut dudes who had their fun and now want to conquer a virgin for the bragging rights. The real truth is that men will think what they want about you and decide they are right regardless of the truth. Short hair? Slut! Not married at 25? Slut! Cleavage visible? Slut! Lotta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 12:47 PM
10	Men are right to believe their prime is later than women Yep. And in prior eras, it was still other young pretty men they preferred: NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Justin Bieber, etc. And it’s not a new thing: Elvis was 21 when he became a massive superstar and girls were fainting in the audience. When young women were screaming for the Beatles, those men were in their 20s (they split up before they even turned 30). Young women seem to prefer young men. Not 35 year olds like red pillers keep wishfully claiming.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 09:10 AM
7	Men are right to believe their prime is later than women Amazing that’s how much you view A women for merely being the same age as the “sexiest men alive”, lol. Seriously, you should never marry or have children: no matter how young and beautiful a woman is when you get with her, you’ll absolutely despise her within a few short years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 08:59 AM
3	If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options. You don’t know me, but I didn’t fuck any Chads when I was young if that’s what you’re trying to imply. But likewise it wouldn’t have mattered either way— my male peers didn’t seem to be attracted to me when I was “in my prime”. Maybe go be mad at someone hotter than me instead?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 11:43 PM
1	If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options. I’m not interested in complying with your dispute for me to shut up, thanks. If you don’t people to debate in a debate sub, then why are you even here?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 07:07 PM
21	Men are right to believe their prime is later than women Take for instance the men selected for the sexiest man alive covers. Notice how almost all the men are in their 30's to 50's. And lol, who do you think is the audience of People Magazine? Their key audience is 45 year old soccer moms in the waiting room at the pediatrician’s office, not the hot 18 year olds you guys want. The magazine is written and catered to the audience of middle-aged women who are very into celebrity gossip. Congrats on winning so big with the women you don’t consider an “op…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 05:48 PM
2	If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options. I agree with that. I disagree with your claim that the “women” are all out fucking Chad just as I also disagree with the notion that all men care only about looks. But when addressing men in this sub (as I was in my original comment)… surely you can agree that men strongly prioritizing looks and hating on any woman over a certain age is more than rare in this sub?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 05:32 PM
1	Why are men obsessed with “submissive”women? I did a few days ago right here in this sub. Here’s a whole chain: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1rdh0hy/comment/o7aorde/ The sub is mostly men, and a lot of them really hate women, so I disagree with a lot of men on this sub. But I disagree with random women too. I’ve also chewed out a couple for being too mean to men, although search on Reddit is bad potatoes so I’ll never find specific comments. So now… where is your last comment in this sub ripping apart another man? I be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 04:47 PM
5	Why are men obsessed with “submissive”women? Submissiveness, at least in my definition, is also a form of trust. The man in question also have to be a sufficient enough of a leader to lead the household but anyone who is a leader before will also know, it is better to have less or no followers than to have followers that nitpick everything you do. So a man who wants submission from a woman, but expects to lead… is a man who does not trust her at all. Good to see it confirmed so clearly that trust is a one-way street for men who want submis…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 04:31 PM
6	Why are men obsessed with “submissive”women? Men rate as more disagreeable in general. Men are also more variable than women, no? So there are many more men on the extremes than women. It's not a flaw in a subset of men. Being unusually disagreeable is a perfectly clear reason why some particular men will fail to find peace. If a man wants “submission” because he’s a combative disagreeable cuss, then it is his own problem that he can’t find any women doormat enough to pacify his constant need to pick fights and assert dominance I get that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 04:22 PM
9	Why are men obsessed with “submissive”women? If a man is constantly experiencing everything as a “battleground” it is because he himself is combative and difficult. A mature, cooperative person will not struggle this much to have a peaceful home. If he needs “submission” to have a peaceful home, it’s because he’s a disagreeable bitch who cannot solve problems and automatically views any disagreement as a challenge to his entitled authority. Like… normal people cooperate just fine all the time in lots of contexts and solve conflicts through…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 12:33 PM
7	Why are men obsessed with “submissive”women? These guys can’t because they are ego-driven, combative, and difficult. They want an obedient woman who just quietly does whatever he says because they are not capable of being cooperative or reasonable. The whole reason they think they keep running into “unreasonable” bitchy women is because they men like this are extremely disagreeable and combative. They automatically turn everything into a fight and then blame the woman for not being docile and groveling. A guy who expects women to be “submi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 12:25 PM
29	Why are men obsessed with “submissive”women? But if it means “not quarrelsome”, then why not just say “peaceful” or “cooperative”? Why don’t you also call good men “submissive”? Good women don’t want a bitch quarrelsome man in her house either. It’s likely because you do actually mean something quite a lot more than just polite and not quarrelsome. If someone called you “submissive”, you’d feel insulted, no? I also think men tend to use the word “respect” rather differently than women. For women, the word respect usually means just decent …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 11:42 AM
2	If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options. I agree some men are more thoughtful… but likewise, more than just official Red Pill TM men care about looks first. I agree lots of men care about personality and values. But it’s not the overwhelming majority of men… and in this sub, it’s a minority only. And sorry, but you can’t claim that men everywhere are all universally picking their wives and girlfriends wisely and with incredible consideration for their personality and value with no thought for their looks… … and then immediately turn ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 11:35 AM
1	If women need men to survive, all heterosexual sex is unethical No you invented that bullshit and repeating it over and over doesn't make it my idea…. No. You are the one saying that the reason women need men is because men are so dangerous. I think men and women need each other… but not because men are horrible and women are feeble helpless constant victims you want us to be so you can demand the gratitude you think you deserve for being born male, lol. That’s your position, not mine. The bad ones do what they do, and what security you do have is largely du…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 12:32 AM
1	If women need men to survive, all heterosexual sex is unethical That's not my argument at all. Nobody benefits from anyone being terrible lol. It is the claim in your comments for why women need men. Women don’t need men it bad men aren’t around. If you want women to “need men”… then bad men have to hurt some women so that they will need men. You're basically saying the good and bad men are in some kind of kahoots lol. That's ridiculous. No, it isn’t “basically saying that” at all. The protector men do not need to tell bad men to do anything for protector me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 10:55 PM
1	If women need men to survive, all heterosexual sex is unethical That's like saying all men are some kind of cadre or evil organization. No, not at all. I’m saying that your argument is that men who get to be needed by women benefit from other men being terrible, and some of those good men even use those bad acting men as a proxy threat to convince women to do something they want (praise them, date them, acknowledge them, something). It is a very typical push around here: if you women don’t conform and praise some men, then those men will stop protecting you …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 08:33 PM
9	If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options. Men have this attitude about women "past their prime" because women in that age group have serious emotional baggage from their poor choices in men. No, loads of men, as they happily and capably state for themselves in their own words, strongly prefer younger women because younger women are prettier and men care about looks first. But even going with your statement here… ok, then what I said still holds perfectly true: wasting time with a scummy scammer who dislikes her and is just using her for…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 06:55 PM
3	If women need men to survive, all heterosexual sex is unethical Yeah but that doesn't mean men would turn against women. It just means they are needed for that protection. Can you clarify what you think women need protection from if it’s not from men? Funny you forget that in bragging about how women need men for protection, you’re actually framing it all as a protection racket. Basically, women need men… because men will hurt them. Do men want violent dangerous men around so they can feel more needed?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 06:27 PM
3	If women need men to survive, all heterosexual sex is unethical Where are dispatchers asking to be paid millions of dollars a year. Duh, you made it up. Typical black pill dishonesty 🙄. But lol, of course you think finance bros deserve high pay in spite of contributing nothing to the world. Haha, finance bros are a bunch of pampered princesses doing nothing of value, but here you are ready to fellate them all so you can shit on the person directing you to put pressure on the wound so you don’t bleed out. Pretty easy to dismiss your opinions as unimportant an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 06:18 PM
19	If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options. Something that steals your time and ruins your chances of getting what you actually want is not a prize, it’s just a scam. People who loose all their life savings in a sophisticated scam are getting “options” in the exact same way. They had an “option” they thought was real, but harmed them deeply and irreparably. You do not want this kind of “option” either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 05:17 PM
1	If women need men to survive, all heterosexual sex is unethical K. Dump on the critical work that is desperately needed in order for the cops to do anything at all. Doesn’t make them any less important for law enforcement to function. Someone’s gotta do the job even if you think you’re too good for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 05:14 PM
1	The redpill want women who “say they want a good man but dont mean it”. Your words: "As a very direct comparison, men are naturally a lot stronger and faster than women, so being good in sports is vastly harder for women than for men…" “Good” does not mean “the very best top 10”. It means reasonably capable or tolerably competent. Loads of very ordinary high school boys are considered “good in sports” without being “top 10”. Maybe this is a language thing? But in English, “good” does not imply absolute perfection. It’s often just “satisfactory”. It's not because, as…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 04:05 PM
13	If women need men to survive, all heterosexual sex is unethical Lawyers and judges and people who file paperwork for law enforcement also count. Don’t forget that dispatch is actually majority female. Call 911, and the person taking the emergency call and directing law enforcement on where to go in an emergency while helping the caller is more likely to be a woman. Women make up nearly 2/3 of dispatchers. Dispatch is a vital link in the law enforcement chain, but somehow they’re often forgotten about. I get the feeling that it’s a hard, stressful job, even t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 02:02 PM
31	If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options. I don’t want the option of a dude who wants my body but only pretends to like me so he can use my holes, lol. You wildly misunderstand women if you think having a boyfriend who hates you for who you really are is some kind of prize. Seriously, a man like this is a huge waste of her limited time. Aren’t you guys always going on about how women’s prime is only just a few short years and then she’s just a worthless withered old post-wall hag? Then it is a huge detriment to her to be fooled by a man…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 12:56 PM
1	The redpill want women who “say they want a good man but dont mean it”. You're premise was that it was harder for women to be top tiers athlete than for men. So please be consistent. No my premise is that it is harder for all women to get anywhere in athletics. Regular women are also far weaker than men. And men mock them for it, rather than praising them for their meager performance. Women’s performance in physical activity is how men insult each other: “you run like a girl”. And likewise, when a woman goes above and beyond in physical performance, she is also insu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 12:51 PM
1	The redpill want women who “say they want a good man but dont mean it”. You missunderstood. Yeah, sorry I did misread. I thought you were saying my revulsion towards slutty women was weird, but you were actually saying that women who don’t care about that are weird. The women who are not repulsed likely don’t share your views on sex. Because doing an achievement in sport is hard for men to... It's not an easy thing to do... You misread here— I very specifically said average men. Who yes, are not working early as hard as the elite-tier female athletes. Yes, it is not…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 12:12 AM
–	Feminist indoctrination of men is failing due to evolutionary psychology. Donnie is the one actually sending American men to go die in war right now today. I wasn’t aware he was a feminist icon? Lol. A pampered rich draft dodger with no skin in the game, a man who would always have bribed his way out and would never ever have to fight in his life war, is the one sending men to die, not “feminists”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/26 07:34 PM
–	Feminist indoctrination of men is failing due to evolutionary psychology. Your original claim is that feminism fails because of male inherent instincts… but now you dropped that argument to just claim feminism fails because women don’t glorify and praise men for not beating them. It’s really pretty obvious your actual goal is just to complain that feminism isn’t centered around praising men as superior honorable beings if they do stuff women are expected to do by default (be peaceful instead of committing murder). My argument above is that your claim, that men are inh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/26 07:31 PM
–	Feminist indoctrination of men is failing due to evolutionary psychology. That’s not a response to my comment at all. You didn’t even try.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/26 06:10 PM
–	Feminist indoctrination of men is failing due to evolutionary psychology. Yes I know that’s your argument. I would argue instead that your own beliefs in “natural” male domination and the idea that male-violence drives everything in society is itself an I doctrination. One that is also false— patriarchies are dying everywhere precisely because men obsessively brutalizing their women into silent submission is not natural. It is a behavior (and belief system) that has historically been brainwashed into young men by manipulative old men trying to collect harems for thems…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/26 06:04 PM
–	Feminist indoctrination of men is failing due to evolutionary psychology. So your argument is that men are inherently and biologically the enemies of men, and that men’s core biological drive is to conquer and rape them. Surely that’s an argument in favor of feminism, then? Why should women want to peacefully coexist and cooperate with such violent cruel people who only want to dominate and brutalize them? Sorry, I don’t buy your claim that “evolutionary psychology” proves your belief that men aren’t natural enemy. Men are quite capable of cooperation and persuasion a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/26 05:22 PM
–	The redpill want women who “say they want a good man but dont mean it”. Most are probably not impressed but are probably not repulsed either Women who like casual sex, and women who do not have values that reject casual sex are not repulsed. And yes, the women who agree with you that women who have casual sex are worthless lowlife whores, but the men who do that to them are great conquering studs will also probably be repulsed by it and I do think that's weird. Why do you think it’s weird that I don’t want anything to do with exactly the kinds of men most likely to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/26 05:14 PM
2	The redpill want women who “say they want a good man but dont mean it”. but I think it does apply in the case of the perseption of high body count between men and women. This is how men view it when they view sex as combative, as if a man having sex is “winning” and the woman is “losing”. Women generally are not impressed at all by a man being a slut. Like really think about it: why would women think it’s amazing that a man has to work super duper hard to do something that’s trivially easy for her? As a very direct comparison, men are naturally a lot stronger and fa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 09:15 PM
4	The redpill want women who “say they want a good man but dont mean it”. Racking up an high body count as a woman isn't something difficult, doing it as a man is an "achievement". No man end up with an high bodycount by accident. The mere difficulty of an act does not determine whether it’s worthy of praise or shame. It’s really easy to pour a bowl of cereal every morning instead of cooking a perfect french omelette… and you don’t call people who have milk and cereal “breakfast sluts” and shame them for it. Doing something easy is often praised for being more efficie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 01:39 PM
11	Why is it always semantics and not the argument itself? It seems far more common for men to throw accusations of being emotional at women than the reverse. I don’t see why you attribute this to women unless it’s simply that you see women as your opponents and rarely read men attacking women with “you sound angry” kinds of responses, rather than addressing the content. Men framing literally any argument a woman makes as being automatically emotional and default illogical is… basic internet 101. Men policing women’s tone for being not conciliatory and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 12:24 PM
2	Women defend lesbian relationship instability and it exposes the whole narrative Narratives are also almost never as universal of overwhelming as OP claims without a massive concerted social effort. Like the Catholic Church kind of effort. And before you cry that’s like feminism and that feminists rule the world… they can’t even keep abortion legal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/26 11:54 PM
4	Women defend lesbian relationship instability and it exposes the whole narrative Where do you live that you think the both sides natativr is a thing? With like, real adults and professionals in the US? Family members, friends, etc. Relationship discussion is a unikely female thing. You think women don’t discuss relationships? Ok, that makes it pretty clear you don’t really communicate much with women. Unfortunately men seem to do it when thrybget traumatized bto the pointnthat they congregate abd form redpill and blackpill based groups which is bad. So you confirm what I sai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/26 08:37 PM
6	Women defend lesbian relationship instability and it exposes the whole narrative You read all that and think you wrote a response that has nothing to do with what I said within 2 minutes of my comment posting. I do not buy you actually read anything I wrote or that you considered anything I said before slapping that random comment out on your keyboard. At most you just read the first sentence then rage-stroked out this meaningless “I can find studies and comments” response that had nothing to do with what I said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/26 08:24 PM
4	Women defend lesbian relationship instability and it exposes the whole narrative That's funny to assume I only talk to people online. I assume it because your take is so extreme and so one-sided and so black and white, like you’ve never even talked to a normal person at all. I can't tell you how many times hanging out with female friends they're like I hate men. Why are they hanging out with you then? This is also lesbians who say this as well. Lesbians say that their breakups are because of men? Like, they blame men for breakups in relationships with other women? Or are you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/26 08:17 PM
9	Women defend lesbian relationship instability and it exposes the whole narrative “Exposes the whole narrative”… ? Maybe get off the internet and slow down with the conspiracy wheeling. Normal people who have real people in real life they know do not have a “narrative” where “men are the sole source of relationship dysfunction”. The narrative of most normal people (i.e. who are not terminally online victims of TikTok brain rot) is “there are two sides to every story”… and on the other side, the people who are actually part of a dysfunctional relationship tend to blame the oth…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/26 08:03 PM
2	Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoes What is your goal in telling me that you think I’m bitter? Like, what specifically do you want me to do with the information that FemFemFem1444 doesn’t like my tone of voice?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/26 02:53 PM
2	Some men think that deconstruction of gender norms means that they should be attractive no matter what. Frankly, this is easy to say for you Ok. I wasn’t approached but go off with your lecture I guess. It's increasingly hard to approach in real life due to fewer third places How do you think third places exist in the first place? If nobody shows up to them, they stop existing. If what men want to do is spend their time inside swiping, that is the death of third spaces. People created third spaces for their own entertainment. I agree that corporations have effectively monetized and destroyed a lot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 10:00 PM
2	Most men who are struggling with dating have not exhausted all options You can turn it off… just like women do, sure. You do not force yourself to feel attraction based on logic, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 09:46 PM
2	Some men think that deconstruction of gender norms means that they should be attractive no matter what. And in person meets at bars and stuff after college It is weird you think the only way to meet men is in a bar or in college. Socializing in real life is possible if you go outside and go to places where people are. No, meeting outside college isn’t “dead”, it just requires a lot more effort. And the only way for it to not be “dead” is for people to actually try. If swiping for hours on an app is the only effort someone willing to put in at all, they are not trying very hard to meet people in pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 04:56 PM
2	why do men act as if women aren't capable of doing stuff by themselves ? You’re in Bible class, and it’s surprising to you that a man be well-meaning but think you’re inferior and need masculine leadership to function. Lol snort. Are you… new to the Bible?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 12:23 PM
–	Ladies, If you’re not attracted to 90-95% of men, that’s not a male problem.. thats a YOU problem Actually, no, your post is solipsism. You have a problem with women being more selective than men, so you assume that women also have a problem with the same thing. But really, most men don’t actually want women to be as sexually unselective as men. Men call unselective women very cruel names and say they would never ever marry one of those women. Plus, for red pill men… how could they ever feel validated and like they’re a superior specimen if all women were “the town bicycle”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 05:06 PM
2	Most men who are struggling with dating have not exhausted all options I’ve never met a man who used logic to decide which woman to be attracted to. It seems strange to claim it’s just a woman thing to care about emotion when it comes to romance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 09:37 AM
2	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise So yeah, you’re not here for a discussion, you’re just here to berate the women. Sorry, to berate American women specifically. No, the majority of American women are not these extreme delusional weirdos you’ve painted them as, holding out for a 6’5” supermodel billionaire, lol. If those are the actual majority of women you notice, it’s because you’re the on focusing on an extremely narrow subset of the population… most likely because you’re falling for some TikTok algorithm rage bait and some bl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 03:10 AM
3	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise Yes, and in this discussion, I am asking you to consider the hypothetical as well. You are asking about this extremely uncompromising hypothetical woman… and I am asking about men who are so concerned about her choices. I agree it is a discussion, so then why do you shut entirely down when I ask why you and other men are so deeply concerned with the choices of such an extreme woman. Most women are not even close to being this bonkers, so why so much focus on the kind of woman who… frankly doesn’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 02:09 AM
3	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise I agree you didn’t use that word. I didn’t say you did. But like… your whole point is that a woman holding out for a 6’5” supermodel billionaire is delusional, no? So again: why does it bother you that a woman you clearly believe is pie-in-the-sky impractical is also someone you’d want to date? Like, if a woman who failed out of high school told you she’s planning to be an astronaut, would you think she was good at managing her life and setting realistic goals? Or if a woman says her plan to pay…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 01:56 AM
4	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise You clearly think this woman is super duper dumb. Do you want to marry the kind of woman who thinks she can only be happy with a 6’5” billionaire supermodel rockstar? If so, why are you interested in a woman you clearly think is terminally stupid? Like you know intelligence is highly heritable… is she the kind of woman you want contributing half her genetics to your kids? And if you doubt her judgement this profoundly, and you think she is this completely silly about important things in her life…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 11:46 PM
2	What do you value? It really depends a lot on what you mean by “financially unstable”. Being with someone I don’t enjoy would be so awful, and being with someone unattractive would make it extremely difficult to connect romantically. So I’d gladly take attractive enough and personable… if “financial insecurity” just means basically any regular American these days. Everyone is financially insecure or just one medical bill away from struggling. I don’t insist of the dude being a 1%er, and I’m able to provide pretty …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 04:38 PM
2	Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoes Yes, exactly. I know I am not perceived as attractive. Thats what I was trying to tell you. I am not ugly, although I’m sure you’d decided in your head I’m a porridge-faced fat blob no matter what I say. But being the kind of woman who stays a virgin by personality (dressing more modestly, not being flirtatious, being sexually shy and reserved) is simply not attractive to men. Add in simply looking plain and I’m apparently pretty undesirable. Men are a lot pickier than you give them credit for— …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 12:45 PM
2	Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoes Yes. Never an overweight bmi. I was single my teens and 20s and ignored as a romantic option	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 12:39 PM
2	Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoes I was in shape and couldn’t. 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/26 09:20 PM
1	Some men think that deconstruction of gender norms means that they should be attractive no matter what. It obviously contributes to it but I think it'd still be brutal even with an equal gender balance. What is your evidence for thinking that the majority of men would never ever have a chance with any woman without that massive gender imbalance? Thats not how it was in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, or even the 00s. What specifically do you think has suddenly changed to make women suddenly refuse to date any average men… when they absolutely do still do that in offline dating? I don't really know ab…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/26 09:20 PM
1	Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoes it's not settling when men choose you over their other options. men who marry the good girl aren't necessarily bored with them (in fact the guys in my circles never seem to be) It is settling if he spent all his youth and effort chasing after the hot casual sex with women he genuinely desires, then you have to do chores and childcare and bring in half the pay to earn his attention. People don’t really change. If you aren’t like the women he spent his time and effort chasing, and you gotta simp f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/26 09:11 PM
1	Some men think that deconstruction of gender norms means that they should be attractive no matter what. Do you really believe that the only reason it's harder for men to get dates is because of the gender ratio of these apps? It is the overwhelming reason men struggle on apps. A 3 to 1 ratio is a very optimistic estimate that Tinder was wiling to state publically a few years ago… the reality is likely worse. 3:1 is a catastrophically bad ratio that will absolutely leave most men wanting. And the reality is a lot worse than 3:1, because of all the bots and women who are just there for a compliment,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/26 02:00 PM