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DiscussionBandit174/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:33 PM
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YASS KWEENS!!💅Bandit174/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:05 PM
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PURGE WEEKBandit174/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:15 PM
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Purge week!Bandit174/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:24 PM
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apparently mods still get to see people's post histories tho
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:20 PM

I miss when reddit allowed you to just see people's post histories. You could find some juicy stuff without even searching that far back. It also let's you know how seriously to take them if aren't familiar with their username yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:12 PM

Its basically the worst of both worlds if you aren't casual sex material. You get all of the negatives of traditional dating in that you still have to earn more money, pay for the dates and wait a while before she sleeps with you. But you dont get a modest woman, you get a woman who had sex immediately with the guys who were hot enough to have casual sex. A lot of women even multidate now and have a fwbs on the side while they are making the non-casual sex guys pay to take her on dates. So you e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:17 PM

Thats true but the guys who have lots of casual sex are also the least likely to end up in deadbedroom marriages. They get to have their pick of the litter and are pretty much garanteed a woman who finds him physically attractive. For other guys, marriage isn't as good of a deal necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:13 PM
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were they tall tall or just barely 6ft
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:04 AM
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were the guys you dated who you didn't find attractive sub 5s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:51 AM
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I thought you were black pill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:39 AM
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Sure but we know women find most men unattractive so theres going to be more women in marriages with unattractive men than women in marriages with attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:32 AM
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oh, I thought it would have come up during "girl talk"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:55 AM
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proof deadbedroom = woman not attracted to partner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:54 AM
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What would be a more suitable sub? If I had a free use arrangement, ppd would be the first sub I'd want to talk about it on
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:53 AM
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Do you think thats common among other high sex drive women? I was having a convo with some friends about this topic and I was asked my ideal frequency and I basically said the same as you (1 - 2 times per day on avg) and they acted like I was crazy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:52 AM
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what's your ideal frequency?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:46 AM
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This feels like a humble brag
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:42 AM
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You're the one who first brought up grandparents lol Again I feel very confident if you posted a question on AskMen most men would say they are not ok seriously pursuing a woman who has a fwbs on the side. And youre the one who ended up in a marriage where your husband made you feel sexually rejected for 10+ years so all your expertise on relationships didn't seem to do you much good 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:36 AM
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k next time I see my mom I'll ask her if it was normal for women in her day to have a fwbs on the side while going out with other guys. And to use your competition analogy, if a woman is dating multiple guys and she's sleeping with one of them and that one shes sleeping with is not me, then Ive already lost that competition. Any additional effort or money I spend on her is a waste and only to her benefit not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:53 AM

He could still find tall white guys to bang him
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:43 AM
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Dating has always worked where women have a fuckbuddy on the side while going on dates with other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:07 AM
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There's a difference between her going on other dates and having someone she's already sleeping with. Most men are not going to knowingly keep pursuing a woman and paying for dates if she's fucking someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:35 AM
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You're delusional if you think that. The vast majority of men are not going to knowingly pay for dates and seriously pursue a woman whiles shes actively sleeping with another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:09 AM
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I dont understand the guys who insist on paying. If the woman pays and sleeps with you thats like a double win
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:01 AM
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its the OG shit test
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:57 AM
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as a test to see if wed prove our devotion to him
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:56 AM
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Well Icy_Ad_4544 seems to think its unreasonable to care about that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:55 AM
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Im maybe a bit more nuanced than op. I think there is a difference between ugly and beautiful women. However I think the difference between attractive and non-attractive men is greater. I also think the thresholds for being deemed ugly vs attractive are drastically different too. A woman needs to have serious genetic defects to be viewed as ugly meanwhile a man only needs to be around average or just slightly below for women to view him as ugly. Similarly most women can qualify as beautiful but …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:06 AM
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What do you mean towards asian women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:02 AM
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A guy doesn't need to be ugly to not have a roster. If you ran a poll on ask men or some other male sub do you honestly think most guys are ok paying for dates and pursuing a woman with an active fuckbuddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:57 PM
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True I messed it up. Your example doesn't really fit the point I was trying to make either tho. It would need to be a scenario where the 30 yo has reason to question whether he actually prefers her vs just settling because he couldn't lock down the 20 yo. Welp I was too young to experience this supposed world where women actually cared what men think
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:50 PM
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Because you said If she went for Jacob after Tom it would also be seen negatively. Because if those were the only two data points it probably would. I can't deny that claim. Switch height for old/young. If a 30 year old man fucks a 30 year old woman and then marries a 20 yo women will judge it. Similarly if he marries a 30 yo then they break up and then he goes for a 20 yo. If those are the only two data points women are definitely going to judge. Now if he had a variety of partners of different…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:41 PM
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The point is women assume every guy is able to have a roster with a fwbs on the side like they do. Its not calling dibs its just wanting the girl to be properly single. If Im paying for dates while shes getting railed by a fwbs on the side Id rather A) Spend my money dating a different girl who isn't doing that or B) Try to be the fwbs guy and avoid that whole traditional guy pays to take woman on serious date bs altogether I really doubt my opinion on this is unpopular among guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:31 PM
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So what are tall guys meant to do then just assume their shit don’t stink? Cause that’s wrong. I mean they kind of are the prize. They have a trait that the vast majority or women want but only a minority of men have. If you poll a bunch of random women on what physical traits they find attractive "tall" will almost always be among the first three traits they list. Tall guys get dumped and passed over every day. That is true but a key distinction is when they are dumped/passed over it usually no…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:24 PM
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Its just how it is. We see how women talk about short and tall guys. We see how they prioritize tall guys and give them special treatment. We cant just look at it in a vacume. Going from tall to short is a downgrade and from short to tall is an upgrade per womens own admission. This isn't something we just made up out of thin air.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:10 PM
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You're proving my point lol also this further highlights why its best to be the fwbs guy vs the guy paying to take her on dates while shes getting railed by someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:07 PM
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same
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:42 PM

exactly my point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:35 PM
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I dont think his point was that high iq men do better in dating. I think his point was just like theres more men at the extremes for iq theres also more men at the extremes for sexual success i.e the most promiscuous people are men and the most hopelessly alone people are also men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:30 PM
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I agree. The other day I saw a post on a different sub where a guy was complaining how the girl he went on a date with had a fwbs on the side and was going on dinner dates with 2 other guys in addition to him and all the women in the comments were like "this is normal all guys are multidating with a fwbs on the side too"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:27 PM
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So you think majority of women have never had a fwbs/situationship or one night stand?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:07 PM
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darn, I should have had you proofread it before posting 😓
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:05 PM
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How are you defining casual sex when you say most women haven't had it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:32 PM
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Among your social circle most of the women have never used dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:28 PM

Just because some men on a reddit thread said they wouldn't swipe on her doesn't mean she wouldn't get matches on the apps. Theres been plenty of dating experiments with fake profiles of fat women showing that even fat women get lots of likes and matches. And the woman you are talking about is supposedly curvey not full blown obese. But to answer your root question... The difference between men and women is primarily down to 2 things Men's attractiveness is rooted more in immutable characteristi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:06 PM
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Jacob is definitely the AF and Tom is the BB in this scenario. You either see it or you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:39 PM
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If a woman simply sleeping with a man before getting with another This is leaving out context tho. It isn't just sleeping with a man. Its specifically sleeping with a 6'5 fuckboy type guy when younger and then going for the short less attractive guy afterwards
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:25 PM
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Instead of it being binary I'd phrase it more as luke warm attraction or more of an emotional attraction rather than physical. So she's not disgusted by her boyfriend but shes also not as passionately attracted to his physical appearance as she was to her more conventionaly attractive casual sex partners. Id say most women fall under this umbrella. Basically any woman who is in a relationship with a guy that isn't at least a 7/10 per womens standards and as we know women rate most men as below a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:22 PM
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Isn't up to men to decide if it is or isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:18 PM
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I really dont think getting rid of porn changes that. Most of those views comes from personal experiences and social media not porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:07 PM
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If you're choosing someone just for sex you'll be more picky on looks than when you are choosing someone to live with and raise a family with Also its easier for women to find a tall hot guy to have casual sex with them than it is to find a tall hot guy who wants to commit to them. Thats why most women have had casual sex with tall hot guys but only a small minority of women end up married to a tall hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:57 PM
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lol I agree it would be perceived bad in reverse too. My point was just she's just as redpilling as the Sydney Sweeney example meanwhile you seem to think redpillers should view her as an ideal woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:50 PM
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lol yeah back in their day hoes had to take low res pics on a polaroid and then wait weeks for them to be developed before walking up an icy hill to hand the picture to the guy in person 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:30 PM

Does it? I thought it often involves lack of clarity/ambiguous lines. Thats why women often ask the cliche questions "how do I know what we are", "how do I get my situationship to want more" ect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:24 PM
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Idk it still seems kinda like the whole hookup vs boyfriend scenario where the 6'5 guy is the one she had casual fling with and then the shorter guy is the one she goes to after the taller guy wouldn't commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:21 PM
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For a relationship they are pickier on things like character and wealth and investment. However for casual sex I think they are pickier on looks/raw sex appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:18 PM

I think part of the issue is the term itself does sound like it happens in a narrow timeline. Like if I was comming into this blind and asked what I thought it meant I'd think it referred to a one night stand or maybe really short fling. Something lasting months is more situationship. That said I agree that all count as casual sex in that the guy usually doesn't intend to take them seriously in any of these situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:16 PM
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Porn restrictions are because of dumb religious boomers and tech companies looking for excuses to track us even more than they already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:58 PM
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tbf zendaya got railed by that 6'5 Jacob Elordi so she's not exactly any less redpilling than Sydney Sweeney. Im of the opinion that most celebrities make shitty spouses hence why virtually none of their marriages last
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:56 PM
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I agree there needs to be similarities and there are. Like I said they are all examples of sexual choices made in someones past that cause potential partners to feel an ick and look at you differently. Its not apples to horses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:51 PM
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no worries, honest mistake 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:48 PM
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Thats part of the point. Women are pickier about casual sex than men are so the men she does have casual sex with had to pass a higher threshold on his physical traits in order to be worth having casual sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:47 PM
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Things dont have to be litterally identical in order for them to be comparable. You're just doing that classic feminist thing where conveniently all of women's preferences are justified but when it comes to men's well then it doesn't count
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:45 PM
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Im not wrong. Its common sense that looks impact arousal and studies have shown women orgasm more with facially attractive men. Same with dick size, bigger is usually rated more favorably. If it didn't matter women wouldn't even have preferences on it or talk about it like they do. Women can easily have sex with tall hot well endowed men for casual sex but only a fraction of those women get married to a similar caliber guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:42 PM
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They are comparable in that they are both aspects of a persons sexual past that if known often cause potential partners to change how they see and feel about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:36 PM
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First Im talking about in general. There's always exceptions. It would be like if I say "humans have 5 fingers on each hand" and then someone replies "you're wrong I have 6" Secondly Im not only referring to face. When I say physically Im including height, physique and dick size. So my point was more if a guy is not noticeably above average on any of those traits then hes incredibly unlikely to be better than the guys his wife/gf had access to for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:33 PM
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I agree which is why it's probably more valuable to find out if shes had casual sex or not instead of the overall n count. Also if she can honestly say shes never had fwbs, one night stands, situationships ect then her number is unlikely to be high anways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:27 PM

I mean, would women actually find it more flattering to be referred to as hookup material?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:48 PM
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It litterally takes less than 30 seconds to lookup so sure you bothered me enough to spend 30 seconds lol Either way, your husband basically got the redpill fantasy scenario: high bodycount man and then just so happens to pick a less experienced woman when its time to settle down 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:46 PM
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I think the better scenario if hes trying to appeal to women is if her bf had slept with prostitutes and/or was bisexual and slept with men those are scenarios that often causes the ick in women similar to how women's past often causea an ick in men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:42 PM
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likewise
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:39 PM
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I mean its easy to no be insecure when hes in a winning position lol If I had a high bodycount and married a woman with a low one Id be confident about her past too also in your post you said " On top of the years of betrayal (porn, webcam sex, meetups that he swears he never went through with) "
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:38 PM
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lol, This response makes so much more sense now 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:35 PM
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The casual sex guys will often have a lot more experience and likely be better looking ect.. Are u still in the discord group? I am, yes :) I don't recognize your username. Is there a different one I would remember
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:30 PM
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It matters because youre talking a big game about how great your husband is for supposedly not caring about bodycount meanwhile he just so happens to have a high one and married and cheated on a woman with a low bodycount
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:28 PM
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Neither? Once a woman has a high bodycount the damage is already done so it doesn't really matter if she stops or not. Or is it to have sex with the men they reject? I don't think any guy believes women will start having sex with guys they reject as a result of shaming their bodycount. When women shame men for not meeting their standards is there necessarily a goal? or are they just expressing their preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:25 PM
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Why wouldn't you want to be your partners best? I agree its unrealistic tho because any guy who is physically average basically has zero chance of being better than the guys his wife had access to for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:21 PM
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Is he the type who has slept around a lot? iirc youve posted about him cheating on you, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:13 PM
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so your current husband wouldn't have cared at all if you had group sex prior?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:02 PM
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Dating app stats pretty consistently show a small % of men getting the lions share of all the matches. This suggests quite a bit of overlap in what different women are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:55 PM
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So if a woman doesn't want to date a man because of his bodycount its just a preference and completely ok but if a man doesn't want to date a woman because of her bodycount its "basing someone's humanity on bodycount" and wrong ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:52 PM
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They can but are not as likely to. The point isn't that its impossible for women to get fed up with an attractive guy, its that the threshold for what makes her fed up is completely different so a guy shes not attracted to will have to work significantly harder to avoid her getting bored/annoyed with him in marriage than an attractive guy would.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:29 PM
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I mean its good for the woman I guess but sucks for the man who gets stuck wifing her up. Its basically classic AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:23 PM
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into a strategic macroeconomic move is even more hilarious Is it not logical? If you're in a competition that you aren't equipped to compete in it makes sense to switch to a different league where you're more adapted. Notice how passport bro flight itineraries always map to developing nations rather than countries with a comparable or higher GDP, proving it's less about finding a soulmate and more about the fact that you can't find women who want you so you gotta look for women who need you I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:17 PM
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Why does it matter if it was just for short term dating? The implications of that are arguably worse than if those are the longterm standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:49 PM
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Depends on reasoning. Not every virgin is waiting until marriage. Ive seen plenty of women on the r /dating subreddit where they were a late bloomer and ended up losing it to an experienced guy Also it does not have to be the extreme of virgin. There are women with a bodycount of like 3 who never had casual sex before who still end up with men who did have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:10 PM
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n the context of me finding my husband desirable It's not whether you find him desirable. Its whether he would have been good looking enough for you to have chosen for casual sex to which youve still yet to say yes. Yes, the RP is wrong is everything But youve just aknowleged some women do view it differently so at minimum red pill is accurate with respect for those women even if you refuse to aknowlege it being right for you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:08 PM
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Sure, but which guy would the woman rather date? A guy who was attractive enough to have casual sex and did have it. or A guy who wasn't attractive enough to have it but shows appreciation towards his partner in the ways you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:52 PM
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If a man only has a low partner count because he lacked the opportunity for casual sex, he hasn't necessarily tested his restraint I don't disagree but without having those opportunities he'll never truely be able to test them. Women never even believe them. Like if a guy who isn't conventionally attractive enough for casual sex says he finds it immoral he usually gets clowned on by women. At the end of the day all that matters is how attractive you are. The guys who are attractive enough to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:17 PM
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Its more than what you have given. All you have is your own perspective. I have given examples of other women who also acknowledge the dynamic I described. And you don't even seem to disagree with my perspective just how we frame it. Its likely true that your husband lacks the looks to have been casual sex material for you. The only disagreement is that you think that makes him the winner while redpillers think that makes him the loser. Thats the only part you actually disagree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:12 PM
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Do you disagree with women who admit to it? https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:01 PM
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ok, two questions How does he show restraint towards something he has no access to anyways? What difference does it make? Either way he's probably going to get stuck choosing between staying single or getting married to a woman who has had casual sex before.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:10 PM
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That's not how casual sex works. Sometimes it is yes. Even women themselves will post about how they don't usually have casual sex but gave in because the guy was really attractive. But I agree that's not always how it plays out. However, what we do think is that just like with men there are different standards for casual sex and for relationships and that the minimum threshold for being hot enough to have casual sex with is higher than the minimum threshold to be in a relationship with. Thats t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:46 PM
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which scenario is this in reference to? the guy who doesn't have casual sex because he can't ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:33 PM
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Why is that so difficult to grasp? Because the question was "would he have been physically attractive enough to have met your standards for casual sex?" and you seem unable to just say "yes he is physically attractive enough that he would have passed my threshold for a casual partner" instead you're like "I would want a relationship instead" Like in the hypothetical of a woman asking her boyfriend "would you have cheated on me if you had the chance?" the correct answer she is looking for is "no,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:31 PM
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But they specify that preference because they want commitment and lower chance of cheating which applies to them as well I actually don't agree thats the whole reason. That's an extra justification on top of it but the root reason really just boils down to "it gives me an ick" just like a short woman often feels an ick towards the idea of having sex with a short man. She can give extra reasons on top like "he cant protect me, he'll be too insecure ect" but at the end of the day she got the ick. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:24 PM
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preference is hypocritical Perhaps but in practice it doesn't matter. You dont need to have a certain trait in order to want that trait in partner. We don't apply that restriction to any other preference. The dynamic on the male side is that of winner take all. The guys who are desirable enough to have casual sex consitently will still get a lower body count woman if that is what they want. It's very different when somoeone doesn't have casual sex because they couldn't vs they wouldn't I mean ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:55 PM
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You're still dancing around the answer just like a politician does when they refuse to answer direct questions. Youve essentially already admitted your husband doesnt have the physical appearance to have met your casual sex standards. I agree not every guy wants casual sex but even the guys who dont want casual sex often dont want a woman who views him as not attractive enough to have met her casual sex standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:38 PM
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That is true but that applies assuming women who don't have casual sex or are even virgins will have better sex life which isn't true Lower bodycounts do corelate with higher marriage satisfaction and lower divorce rates. And especially if the comparison is to a woman who had casual sex and then marries a guy who is a downgrade compared to her casual sex partners. and he might say that wants the more pure woman but she won't satisfy him the way he wants It's an inherently more solvable problem. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:22 PM
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Then why is it always assumed that men can naturally adapt to whichever scenario Im not sure if I follow what you mean by this. I'll just answer from a more general perspective on adaptability. Its a common talking point that women are harder to please in basically all aspects of life not just sexually. And think of that meme of men being fine with an empty room with a TV and couch while women need tons of furniture a decorations. And women are usually the ones to initiate most breakups because …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:34 PM
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Women have a similar fantasy, but again its inverted. Womens fantasy is bad boy who can be good just for her. Also my point wasn't necessary that men expect the ideal of good girl who is bad just for him. I think lots of guys are content with a woman who doesn't have casual sex with him but also never had casual sex with other men either. I think other guys are content with a woman who did have casual sex with other men but has casual sex with him too. Its just the worst of both worlds scenario …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:18 PM
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I don't totally agree. Relationship, she gets gifts affection and the validation knowing she is preffered and won compared to whatever women he had casual sex with if he was even able to have casual sex. For the guy, if he is only relationship material he doesn't get validated in the way he wants. He is giving gifts affection, time investment for a woman who views his as less sexually desirable than the guys who got to have sex with her without giving her gifts or affection or time. It's the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:06 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:50 PM
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Yes, but its inverted where men have higher standards on looks for a long-term partner than for a short term partner. And women find it more validating to be viewed as girlfriend material than hookup material.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:43 PM
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lol it seems like you are just avoiding the answer because he wouldn't have been physically attractive enough to meet your hookup standards. Like if a woman asks a guy "would you have cheated on me if given the chance" . And instead of just giving a firm "no" he has to dance around it by saying "I wouldn't have had the chance" lmao Also, you mean hypothetical yes, it was an autocomplete error
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:48 AM

ok let's try this hypothetical imagine if your husband had a different personality where you didn't want a relationship so would a guy with the same looks as your husband but a worse personality have been attractive enough to have casual sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:04 AM
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male doctors?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:57 PM
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True. There's definitely a rich get richer sort of dynamic where even women who don't typically go for casual sex still make exceptions for the same super experienced guys that all the other women are making their exceptions for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:57 PM
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The point is nurses have a reputation for being more gossipy and toxic than the general population. Which is especially disappointing since people are often vulnerable when going through medical issues so knowing that the medical field attracts the worst types of women is a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:43 PM

Imo its not necessarily about virgin / not virgin. Its would you have found your husband attractive enough to hookup with had you met him during your promiscuous phase and does he have similar physical traits compared to the guys you were sleeping with in your promiscuous phase if you can't easily answer yes to both questions then I think the people who say your husband wasn't your first choice have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:32 PM

the memes are good too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:27 PM

lol Not in those exact words but sometimes yes they will essentially admit to it just indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:26 PM
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are you practicing or are you one of the r/exmuslim women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:25 PM
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that was my second guess :(
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:50 PM

Mormon?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:47 PM

ikr lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:43 PM

Sometimes women do talk about their sexual past here so its not that crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:42 PM

incels cant win create women hating sub: get made fun of create wizard larping sub: still gets made fun of
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:34 PM

No, I mean did the person who said your husband wasn't your first choice know anything about your sexual history?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:32 PM

I think they have a point if she had a hoe phase and the husband doesn't have similar physical traits to the guys she had casual sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:29 PM

So he said it without anything about your sexual history being known?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:28 PM

It honestly makes me laugh that you guys think that good-looking men getting the lions share of women’s attention is somehow a new thing. Its not new but dating apps likely makes it more severe than in the past. Also, plenty of women still try to deny and gaslight men about this reality. Whenever the manosphere talks about women sleeping with the same minority of conventionally attractive guys, women seem incapable of aknowleging it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:56 PM

Being an ugly guy that a woman settles for and dead-bedrooms after spending her 20s having sex with men she was actually attracted to isnt the happy ending women try to make it out to be
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:52 PM

but it is very common to see a beautiful woman with an ugly man Part of that is just that women rate most men as ugly and most wommen as attractive. A fat woman with a fat man will be viewed as an attractive woman with an ugly guy. A skinny woman and a skinny man again will be viewed as a attractive woman with an ugly man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:49 PM

On the apps, just on height alone women probably reject 40 - 60% of men. You're doing the same thing you are accusing me of doing just in reverse. You think Im exaggerating how high womens standards are. You're exaggerating how low they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:46 PM

And maybe just maybe they are desperate because no one finds them physically attractive enough to have sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:42 PM
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I don't think it would be any different in real life. I still think a guy expressing a preference towards a lower bodycount would get more shame irl than a woman would for being promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:37 PM
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I was referring to the stereotype that they have shallow/ toxic/gossipy personalities and yes the promiscuity/infidelity stereotype too That one is usually born out in the data since nurses consistently rank high in the professions with highest rates of infidelity lists
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:35 PM

Its because women want to maintain the narrative that beauty standards are harsher for women than for men and they also don't want to admit guys from the manosphere are correct when they say the rise in singleness is because of women's standards on men's looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:31 PM
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lol this makes so much sense the stereotypes about nurses really are true
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:25 PM

You're probably leaving out context from the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:24 PM
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even ugly women would likely have it worse being an ugly man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:22 PM

just highlights how much easier it is for women to be viewed as attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:13 PM

There's way more overlap than there is disagreement. If women really had such diverse tastes the dating app stats wouldn't look like they do and there wouldn't be that "some men drown while others die of thirst" dynamic with dating. There are very clearly sets of traits women almost universally like and other traits women almost universally dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:11 PM
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On the first, I think its just that women have an ungodly amount of choice in the dating market so if they are complaining about being mistreated by assholes thats entirely on them. And then for simps, it's annoying seeing guys ignoring their self interest and giving women treatment they dont deserve. Women do the exact same thing with pickmes. They are shaming other women for giving special treatment to men who other women view as undeserving of that treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:07 PM
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see so its a non-issue
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:28 PM
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do you actually think the typical man has similar quality and quantity of options for casual sex to what women have access to? Pretty much all sex work (prostitution, onlyfans ect) is women selling to men not men selling to women. If men actually had the same options women do for sex, we wouldn't see that discrepancy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:06 PM
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Women are far more picky than men are especially for casual sex. So the end result will be that the % of men who meet a given woman's standards for casual sex will be significantly lower than the percentage of women who meet a given mans standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:02 PM
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I think its probably accurate to say that nowadays men are shamed more for even caring about a woman's bodycount than woman are for having a high bodycount.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:41 PM
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Part of that is likely that the women those guys date put ultimatums on the relationship that they want to be married within x number of years. Meanwhile women who get divorced and want to just fuck no strings attached will have no problem finding men who are ok with that arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:27 PM
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Also most women online claim that no one even asks them about their bodycounts irl. Women want to have it both ways where they are supposedly shamed for their sexual past but also where they've never actually been rejected for it irl. They also want to have it both ways where beauty standards are supposedly so much harsher and unrealistic for women meanwhile they all go on about how less than 5% of men meet their standards for physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:15 PM
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The difference is most women do offer that fantasy to certain men so when a man gets into a relationship he has to not only accept he never got to experience that fantasy but also that his wife/gf enabled those fantasies for other men. Meanwhile the woman probably isn't going to be with a guy who flew his exes out to exotic locations and worshiped them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:31 AM

Male attractiveness is heavily ruled by the hierarchy of bigger is better so tall, wide shoulders, big dick are what's viewed as masculine. Asian men are stereotyped as being shorter, having smaller dicks and narrower frames so they get cast in the submissive roles more often. Same thing happens in straight porn too you'll find way more vids of white guys fucking asian women than asian guys fucking white women. You'll also find more black guys fucking white women than white guys fucking black wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:30 PM

It's that it's only a top 5% experience for men meanwhile every abled bodied woman is able to have those experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:13 PM
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It sounds to me like men who feel similar to what you are describing view sex as something women use to incentivize men to agree to a committed relationship Not necessarily and even when it does happen I dont think its usually a conscious plan. What I think men like me believe is just that women sleep with guys because they find them hot and then often (but not 100%) develop feelings afterwards. In contrast to the beta scenario where it feels like the emotional connection is a prerequisite to ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:44 AM
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Lose the idea that it’s your dick, because so many women prefer other types of sex to PIV But wouldn't a guy who can give oral orgasms AND piv orgasms be better than one who can only give oral orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:46 PM
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Do you agree that if both guys have skill and erotica maturity then the one with the bigger dick will usually be better?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:16 PM
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I dont get why the assumption is that guys with big dicks lack or cant aquire sexual skill and erotica maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:46 PM
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but I think we are talking over each other and somehow our ideas are not connecting Yeah I think so too but Im having trouble identifying the root of the disconnect. > but that women don’t use the concept of sex to determine how much we value a man Not intentionally/consciously. I dont believe women value/desire the hookup man more because she had casual sex with him. I think its the inverse, that she offers him casual sex as a result/consequence of him being more desirable/valuable. I agree tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:37 PM
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Which part have I not responded to? here is the study I am thinking of: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26193479/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:09 PM
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All else being similar it equals better sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:04 PM
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ok, yes I do believe that but thats not really what I mean by the conclusion. Im refering more to the conclusion of this thread i.e that the men who have easy access to casual sex are more attractive than the men who only get offers for ltrs. I'm not seeing how what you said necessarily disproved that, you are seemingly just giving different labels to things like "neutral impact" & "negative impact" instead of chad and beta bux. Either way it still seems to imply different tiers of guys just wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:14 PM
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Could you say what you think my conclusion is?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:12 PM
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I mean even if I accept this phrasing, Im still not understanding how it changes the conclusions we make. Like at the end of the day the implications are the same/similar even if the premises are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:40 PM
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Relative to the guys who are in the negative impact bucket it does increase it. An attractive man + non horny women = no sex and Im not even sure I believe that. It seems pretty common online for there to be a hot guy or celebrity picture/video on toktok and women to respond with some variation of "omg my ovaries" or "raw, next question" ect lol So it does seem women can become reactively horny based on visual stimuli just like men. The only difference is women require a higher caliber of visual…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:24 PM
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Does that distinction meaningfully change anything? Like even if there is just two tiers neutral impact and negative impact it still implies, there is a bar a man's looks has to pass to be in the neutral category and that men who pass that bar will disproportionately be the ones chosen for casual sex and also the ones who give women the most orgasms. And per those dating app studies women presumably rate most men's physical appearances in the negative impact tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:01 PM
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The disconnect is two fold. You may disagree but my observation and the observation of men that share my opinion on this is that the guys we have seen/known who have had easy access to casual sex usually <not always> had easy access to relationships as well. Often enough <not always> we also see women complain about falling for/wanting more from a situationship/ friends with benefits. You and the other women seemingly want to push this narrative that the men who get chosen for casual sex are los…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:45 PM
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I can't relate to this "pool of casual sex" business anyway. Might be different for you vs a woman who only has casual sex occasionally. I do think the women who have casual sex on more of an exception basis are more likely to have different thresholds between casual/longterm than the women like yourself who have more of a consistent streak of casual sex. I think the women who are sluts are just consistently equally picky on looks for both casual and long-term. And that still is besides my point…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:44 AM
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Hard to say since I wasn't alive back then. I think modern men probably glorify the past but also that modern women possibly exaggerate how bad it was. I guess I also don't find it interesting/valuable to judge the past by modern standards/speculate on who had it worse 200 years ago. I also really can't accept the premise that men today have it worse than women under patriarchy. Is that even a common debate? I think its more "do men today have it worse than women today"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:35 AM
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First because that only means you care about validation from a small amount of women. Most women have had casual sex at least a couple times. i have not so big pool of relationship partly because men don't offer them idk that just comes across like "I choose you for a relationship because so few men are willing to offer me that" versus for casual sex its "I have countless options to choose from and picked you out of all of them" "other guys have to pay for dates and wait but Im willing to sleep …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:23 AM
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There's no point at which a woman can't "afford" to reject a man for sex or a relationship in the Western world I feel like this is just nitpicking the use of the word afford but I will rephrase. If the casual market is more lopsided in womens favor then women will have a larger pool of men to choose from than she would for a relationship and will have access to hotter guys for casual sex than she would for a relationship. And when given a larger/better pool it seems natural to raise the minimum…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:16 AM
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ok and thats why red pill men rightfully view it as more flattering/validating to meet a womans casual standards than to only meet her longterm ones
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:00 AM
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There's no reason why men should be able to "get casual sex easily" when the ratio of demand for casual sex vs the supply of casual sex is so extraordinarily lopsided. If we acknowledge that its exordinarily lopsided wouldn't it follow that women can afford to be way more picky about who they choose to have casual sex with? If the casual sex market is more lopsided in womens favor than the relationship market it would make sense that women are able to be more picky about who they have casual sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:31 AM
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I also think its likely also a compatibility thing where everyone has different tolerances for mess/clutter ranging from full blown horder to ocd neat freak and everything in between. And either people need to pair off with someone in a similar band to themselves or be willing to meet somewhere in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:15 AM
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I think its also just good because then you "have it in writing" and reduces the opening for arguments because the expectations are clearly defined and easily checked if they were met or not. I suspect with a lot of these chore arguments its a lot of he said she said, one side having a higher expectation/standard than the other and not having it properly communicated/agreed upon. Having a written log/chart cuts through all the bullshit and arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:06 AM
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I'm not saying all attractive men have casual sex. I'm just saying of the men who do have casual sex they will typically be above average attractiveness. And an attractive guy who is shy would still have women willing to have casual sex with him, he's just choosing not to pursue it. there has always been a surplus of men who have nothing to offer to women, at least in terms of long term relational status And the men who have nothing to offer in terms of relationship status usually end up being c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:53 AM
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I didn't say always. I use often,typically, usually. I think the bar on how physically attractive a man need to be to get sex outside a relationship is higher than to get a longterm relationship. So usually a guy who doesn't have casual sex will be less physically attractive than the men who do. Ans in the scenario where the husband is better looking I'd say he's probably husband material AND hookup material. He just chooses not to make use of his casual sex options. In a different comment you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:44 PM
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Women are often so afraid of fumbling the relationship guys that they will be on their best behaviour. they have attributes that are specifically attractive to women + above average attributes that make them attractive in a relationship. I just dont agree. Most guys get into a relationship eventually. Most guys are not above average. I think the real reason women wait is that they just are not physically attracted enough to those guys to have sex outside of a relationship. Regarding the face vs …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:40 AM
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they don’t seem to understand that the person has changed as a result of time, age, maturity, experiences, etc. I mean its still frustrating/depressing especially if its a pattern where you only ever get the person AFTER they changed and never get to experience being the person who gets the special treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:21 AM
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I don't get why the men who are in demand for relationships are above. Men who are in demand for both. Guys who are in demand for both have all the traits of the relationship only guys in addition to the positive traits required to be casual sex material. I also don't think its that common for guys to be in demand only for hookups. I'm not saying it doesn't happen at all, but in my experience all the guys I've known who were in demand for casual sex were also highly in demand for relationships t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:47 AM
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Most of the guys I know who had easy access to casual sex also managed to get married just fine :/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:29 AM
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Ok that seems fine then. Some of the women I've asked that question to were not able to say that their husband/boyfriend would have met their casual sex standards. Those are more the scenarios that I think are bad for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:08 AM
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I thought you said some of the women you had sex on the first date with did turn into relationships? So wouldn't that mean you were both hookup and relationship material to those women. Also just in general, there are certain stereotypical gendered complaints. Men for example are more likely than women to complain about being "friend zoned". Similarly women more often than men seem to have complaints about falling for a fwbs or situationship who didn't want more. Point being its not uncommon for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:52 AM
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Ok, let's say hypothetically he didn't have as interesting of a personality but looked the same. Would you have then found him attractive enough to hookup with ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:46 AM
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Its not that it's easy to get a relationship its just easier relative to casual sex. Thats why the men who can't get girlfriends are usually just completely sexless. Because if you can't even jump over the 1 foot hurdle (get a gf) you obviously can't jump over the 3 foot hurdle (have a fwbs).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:43 AM
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If you didn't make him wait then why are you arguing against us? Your scenario is the ideal where the woman finds him hot enough to fuck immediately and also wants to have a relationship with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:36 AM
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women if we actually like your personality we won’t want to have sex immediately because we want to get to know you better But how do you know that you actually like his personality if you haven't gotten to know him yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:33 AM
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Im not sure how that refutes what I said. You seem to have had plenty of opportunities for both casual sex and relationships. Some of the women you had sex with right away didn't turn into relationships, some did.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:26 AM
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It’s hard to relate because a guy being willing to sleep with me earlier versus later doesn’t really work as a difference. Yeah I understand that. Yall have the opposite scenario where you're constantly getting sexualized and offered sex so a guy wanting to wait to know you better first will understandably feel more validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:34 PM
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There are always people better looking. Oh well. That’s life. True but there's a difference between 1. Your partner is aware of better looking people Your partner actually slept with better looking people and deems you not good looking enough to receive the same treatment she offered them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:04 PM
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Sure, but isn't that the point of the thread? That being hookup material is better/more validating from the man's perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:01 PM
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So with this analogy are you acknowledging that the fwbs material guys are often more physically attractive than the husband material guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:20 PM
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I still think there's more guys who are able to get married than there are men who are able to be fuckboys. Even women here say "just look outside theres plenty of nerdy non attractive guys in relationships/marriages". I don't think those nerdy mediocre looking guy in relationships/marriages were getting picked for casual sex tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:18 PM
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The guys who are capable of having casual sex easily typically dont struggle getting women who want relationships either. So they usually get the best of both worlds. There are however men who can get relationships but are not attractive/charismatic enough for casual sex. Thats the reason the focus is often on hookup material because theres more men who cant get casual sex than there are men who get casual sex but cant get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:05 PM
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The stats on male sexlessness don't align with the claim that the vast majority of men are fuckboys
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:00 PM
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He still wins relative to the guys who don't get picked for casual sex. He still wins relative to the guys who have to wait and pay for dates before that same woman sleeps with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:58 PM
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Sure, but the reason the focus is on hookup material is because thats the part more men struggle with. There's way more guys who can get married but never got much casual play than there are men who had plentiful options for casual sex but couldn't find a woman willing to marry him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:56 PM
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Most guys are able to eventually get married. I don't think most guys can become fuckboys. Husbands are not more rare than hookup guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:54 PM

are you willing to say what your old username was?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:42 AM

I don't really go on this subreddit much anymore. It finally clicked in my brain that I was wasting time and hurting my mental health by having the same arguments day after day with the same pink/blue pill women and I gradually started comming here less and less. I also ended up joining a discord with some of the less toxic ppd reddit users who used to be active back when I was and I enjoy spending time there more than on the reddit. Im still single and still on the blackpill side but I don't wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 01:47 AM
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I dont see how it's any weirder than any of the other things people frequently reject eachother for. Also do you genuinely not care at all about a guys body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:24 PM
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How is it incompatible if you don't even have a high count yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:57 PM
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I think women just cherry pick when they want something to be egalitarian. Bill Burr made a joke once where women view it kinda like a buffet and they want to keep traditions that benefit them while removing only the ones they don't like and I think that comparison is pretty spot on. Your acceptance of enforced military conscription only for men is a perfect example of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:44 PM
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The % of MGTOW or Redpill guys who go on to be mass shooters is probably less than a fraction of a percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:40 PM
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I think it does but I also think it usually comes as a result of prior success or validation that's why the people with desirable traits tend to be confident while those without them are less likely to be so. Everything else being equal its better to be confident than not. Like even as a blackpiller I'll admit a confident ugly guy will have better odds of being successful than an insecure ugly guy. I just don't know if you can just will confidence into existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:33 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:28 AM
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Well for starters my pill related beliefs. Also feminists typically seem to view everything through the lens of patriarchy theory and everything bad that happens to men and women just get attributed to that while personally I'm more inclined to think a lot of it comes down to nature and society just reinforces/mirrors that. I think that's too fundamental of a disagreement in world view for a feminist to accept in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:26 AM
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Why tf does it matter??? I think this is always the disconnect for women but for me and guys who think similarly to me it matters immensely. I genuinely wouldn't mind waiting and taking things slow, but only if I knew she was consistently like that. However if she's had casual sex before then I'd prefer her to see me as casual sex material first and want a relationship after. So in my ideal world I would be able to look at a woman and instantly know her sexual history and react accordingly. Sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:21 AM
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I'm not inherently oposed but I think we'd be incompatible. Our world views would be too conflicting I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:14 AM
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it is funny how much height drives it women like passport sising to the taller countries while men go to the shorter ones lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:11 AM
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that makes sense for women that and the Netherlands
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:10 AM
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burnt attraction pill
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:00 AM
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It's one of the least understandable fetishes. With most fetishes even if it doesn't appeal to me I can at least grasp the idea of someone liking it but with that one it just makes no sense lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:59 AM
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Again how is he supposed to know? Women say men shouldnt ask about their past so all we can do is assume. And realistically the vast majority of women have had casual sex before so assuming she has will be correct more often than assuming she's the rare unicorn that has never done it before and always makes the guy wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:57 AM
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then for you it is a compliment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:54 AM
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Not really. It kinda gives off the same impression as that "you have a good personality" meme complement where it's kind of just a fallback complement when you know you dont like their looks and are grasping at straws for something positive to say. The only good compliment for a dick is that it's big because thats what women actually gush over and brag to their friends about. Realistically unless you're over seven inches you know youre not big so "cool dick" just seems like a fallback placeholde…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:52 AM
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Could be he has a pay pig fetish. Could be he's not physically attractive and over compensating. Could be he was raised that way and views it as a sort of moral/religious obligation even if it is to his own detriment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:44 AM
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If she has genuinely never had casual sex before and genuinely can't experience immediate lust that is fine and would be looked at differently. However, how can we know that ? We aren't allowed to ask about her past and we're expected to give every woman the benefit of doubt and assume "oh shes making me wait because she's one of the rare women that has genuinely never had casual sex" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:42 AM
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and women killed it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:36 AM
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You even admitted we are right about the casual sex guys being hotter in your most resent post. There's only disagreement is you think guys should feel complemented by it. I think a good place to start is to clarify that, for most women, men fall into three categories: unattractive, neutral, and attractive. Women who okay with casual sex will typically pick men who fall into the attractive category, because all they typically require of a casual sex partner is that they inspire lust. Women who n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:15 AM
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I didn't say you only considered looks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:10 AM
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Sure but that ain't happening. Any changes would only be for future generations. For men currently in the dating market the damage has already been done and theres no going back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:34 AM
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I don't believe you but we can agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:20 AM
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As a 5'9 guy with a good job I really dont want to marry a woman who spent her 20s getting railed by 6'1 guys with mediocre jobs but then "lowers her standards" to marry me. Aside from the hit to my ego it really just sounds like a recipe for divorce or a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:01 AM
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I disagree. As a short guy I don't want a woman who has been ran through by tall guys to lower her standards for me. I'd rather never get married at all than marry such a woman. A woman who is accustomed to a certain caliber of guys is never going to be able to be loyal and treat a guy she settles for well. It'll just end in divorce infidelity or a dead bedroom. Women should just keep doing what they're doing. If they manage to hit the lotto and get commitment from a tall hot guy then good for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:55 AM
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does getting raped by corporate America count?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:35 AM
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I think the issue always boils down to the fact women only experience raw attraction towards a small % of men and every woman says "I have high standards and have no problem meeting the men who meet my standards" so for a lot of men it's just not going to be feasible to get what you suggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:33 AM
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Comming from a woman with the tag "I hate people"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:30 AM
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I can believe that attractive guys are pickier than average guys but are attractive guys equally as picky as women? (for casual hookups)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:08 AM
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Pretty often. I don't necessarily think all women have bodycounts in the 100s but I do think most women have had phases of casual sex and generally choose the same exactly guys for their hookups that the really promiscuous women pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:43 AM
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So if you want to actually help society then the only feasible solution is to make men more attractive. Feasible in our lifetime?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:41 AM
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The dodge thing is ridiculous. Rather than accountants he's got a 19 year old coder named bigballs who was caught leaking confidential information information at his last company. And on top of the Elons got way too many conflicts of interest for him to be an unbiased party.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:36 AM
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I have answered before and I still don't see how it contradicts anything I've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 10:59 PM
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you've asked me this gotcha question before
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:39 PM
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So? You'd never make the same kind of post with genders reversed encouraging women to try to understand struggling or lonely men. So why should we need be charitable towards womens circumstances knowing the same courtesy is never going to go the other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:33 PM
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Again I see women do the same all the time towards men. They don't care how a guy ended up in a situation or what his background is they just stereotype him insult him and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:21 PM
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I don't get what point you're trying to make? It seems like you're agreeing that women go for the hottest guys for casual sex. I don't see how your prostitute analogy refutes what I said in my comment. It is true that if and when they do settle down, their picks are women who have also fucked around. Like attracts like, always. I disagree that they are only picking their equal. I know several fuckboy guys who married women significantly less promiscuous than them. Sure they didn't marry virgins …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:10 PM
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The reason behind it doesn't change anything. Rather than acknowledging that may be all she knows is toxic behavior yall just say she needs to pick better . I almost never see women afford any charitability to men who have struggled or are struggling with dating so why are we expected to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:00 PM
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Fuckboys can still get off on taking a girls virginity lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:47 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:46 PM
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The extremely slutty women are just going to choose the hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:44 PM
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Yours is negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:12 PM
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Even if you want to maintain that view it still is a limitation that is only on men. The bar for men to have access to hookup culture is lower than it is for women. To have casual sex a woman does not need to be exceptionally hot or charismatic or confident. She doesnt need to go out to parties or have a big friend group or be popular. She only needs to go one her phone, set her filter to 6ft+ or 5'10+ if she's feeling generous and then start swiping.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:10 PM
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Again its not 100% but more often than men, yes. Even if we ignore evo psych theories about women getting attached more through sex we can just look at it like this: People become more enamored and fall harder for people that they find to be very physically attractive In order to have casual sex and man typically needs to be hot and confident A woman does not need to be hot or confident to have casual sex Therefore in any casual sex encounter it's more likely that the woman finds the man hotter …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:03 PM
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I think womens preferences are way more alike than different. If women truely had very diverse preferences then on the male side there shouldn't be this feast or famine dynamic we see where some dudes have an abundance of women wanting to fuck them, while the typical guy is getting very little interest from women in person or on the apps. Most guys can eventually get a girlfriend or wife but for casual sex it seems it's only a specific archetype of guy women consistently choose for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:50 PM
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Sure but the extra bit of context that matters is that a man's looks restricts his sexual options way more than it does for women. Women don't have to be hot to have casual sex. Men generally do. Women can easily have sex with men who are more attractive than herself and more attractive than the man she will marry. Most men do not have that same capability. So yes good looking people have more options but the discrepancy between an average man and a hot man's options and experiences is larger th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:44 PM
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If a man wants casual sex but still goes after women who don't, that seems like a failure on his end. The vast majority of women have had casual sex. Only a minority pursue it consistently but they all are picking the same types of guys. I really dont believe the women who have casual sex consistently are choosing different guys than the women who only have casual sex occasionally. Both groups of women are choosing the really hot guy who have really high bodycounts. It isn't a matter of pursuing…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:32 PM
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Ok, fair maybe I shouldn't have used that phrasing. I don't think any guy litterally has a 100% success rate. My view is more: Generally speaking women will have unrequitted feelings for a casual sex partners more often than men just like men are more likely to have unrequited feelings for platonic friends than women are Casual sex guys will have a high (50 - 60%) rate of converting casual sex partners to relationships if he so chooses Even in the event where a specific woman doesn't want more h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:27 PM
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That sounds more like someone who doesn't regularly have casual sex but made an exception. Well that's realistically most women. Most women probably only have short phases of casual sex rather than consistently pursuing it. Personally, the looks threshold is the same for me. Hypothetically if the men you had casual sex with were lined up next to the men you seriously dated, do you think other women would rate the two groups of men as similarly attractive? If you ARE going to fuck someone who you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:11 PM
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it's okay but not effective
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:05 PM
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do you think her husband knows about her past?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:59 PM
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I thought you even aknowleged women will obviously go for the hottest guys for casual sex. And we also know men have a lower threshold for casual sex so it's makes sense that the hottest guy a woman is capable of having sex with will often be hotter than the hottest guy she is capable of securing commitment from. If the fuckable threshold was lower than datable then average men should commonly find it easier to find casual sex than a girlfriend but it seems like: the guys who can't get relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:55 PM
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damn that's brutal do you know if she got married and what kinda of guy she ended up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:50 PM
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Yes there's different categories but the argument is that the fuckable threshold is higher and that the hottest guy women can get for casual will often be hotter than the hottest guy she can get for commitment and as a result women are more likely than men to fall for and want more from their casual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:47 PM
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oh true my bad I misinterpreted
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:39 PM
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Isn't this knowledge out in the open now? Women regularly talk about how "men will fuck anything" and "dick is low value and abundant" I don't see how they still get played
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:38 PM
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You said men underestimate how many men lie implying that women get fooled by these lies. My point is that it should be obvious that the hot fun guy that every woman wants probably isn't going to commit and the women who delude themselves into thinking he will are gullible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:33 PM
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Are women really that gullible? It's not like this is hidden knowledge that the hot guys that every other woman wants probably isnt going to commit to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:26 PM

That interpretation is missing context. They want women to lower their standards earlier in life rather than get ran through by super hot fuckboys in their early 20s and only lower standards for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:14 PM

Discord has custom server emojis and bots. Also the conversations end up being better than on reddit because its a closer nit group. Are you interested in joining?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:39 AM

Yeah, really not a fan of Trump and Elon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:58 AM

It's funny how women in their own way do kinda agree with manoshphere takes ie all women are chasing the same guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:56 AM

It's an online private chat forum popular within the gaming community but I've also joined a few that originated off ppd. Would you be interested in joining? idk if you remember e2-butene but he's there and he said he misses arguing with you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:51 AM

how do you feel about discord?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:31 AM
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Hispanic community, and I see PLENTY of short men paired up, married with kids. Most of them are also fat Are you really going to deny that most women prefer tall men? I'm also not talking about simply getting married. My point is that there is essentially only one archetype for men that is considered conventionally attractive while for women there are multiple and each of those archetypes of women can seemingly easily attract the conventionally attractive men. Fat men don't get to easily date/s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:21 PM
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I really dont think that's true. Both men and women vary equally in terms of height and width both of which are related to bone structure. Width being rib cage width and collar bones. I could flip your statement and say Most women are the same shape... round/hourglass. rectangle if you're flat and triangle if you work out. Who are the skinny, skinny fat and fat men matched with? Who is their female equivalent? According to you fat women match with muscular body builders and male models. And obvi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:44 PM
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You're not really proving any points here. My point is that there is a wider range of body types and body fat %s that are considered attractive for women than for men and that even women who do not match the conventional ideal still easily get men who do match the male conventional ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:29 PM
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Fat men are are not easily attracting female models and gym bunny girls. Meanwhile you while fat said you had no problem getting muscular men and male models. Either you're lying about your past or the standards for women are lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:44 PM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:36 PM
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Would you say only women who have big boobs/ass are worthy of tall fit men? I really doubt you believe that. Women's bodies are considered attractive/good just for not being fat but mens bodies are only attractive if they are tall and muscular. You yourself have posted here that you used to get bodybuilders and male models even when you were fat. So it seems like: skinny women = fit men fat women = fit men fit women = fit men but only fit tall men get to be considered attractive. So yes it absol…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:18 PM
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doesn't this kind of validate their view then that the looks standards are higher for men to be considered attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:53 PM

congrats 🎉!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:18 AM

It seems like you also scored HPV cervical cancer tho
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:11 AM

Basically every woman thinks she's average or above
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:56 AM

Eh I'd definitely take life on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:50 AM

lol let me guess, a woman wrote that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:48 AM

His point is thats its unlikely the guy a woman settles down with will be the best across all relevant categories. Even if those guys exist there's simply not enough supply to match the demand so a decent number of women will either have to stay single or settle with a guy who is a downgrade compared to some of her exes especially if she's had a lot of casual sex. Going back to his comment: One ex earned more, one was taller, one was better looking, etc For instance maybe: * ex1 was 6'5 college …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:18 AM
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I feel weird about almost everything Elon says/does. I don't get the cult worship he receives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:21 AM
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It's not really quantified tho like it is for dicks. Women will give exact numbers for what they consider good/bad. The same isn't true for vaginas and realistically what guys refer to as tight is probably just the average vaginal tightness. Women also have the benefit of being able to do kegals. I just dont think women struggle to get men off or get rejected on the basis of their vaginal size often enough for it to really be comparable to what men experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:47 PM
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also I'm kinda curious what do you consider a matching work ethic/ambition? Is it related to level of education, certain salary threshold, having side hustles?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:52 PM
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drug use history with casual sex irresponsible spending habbits
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:37 PM
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You must have qualities that men want and offer something that makes higher value men want to meet your standards, this still falls in line with my logic. Most women are mid and not exceptional by definition but still want to compete for the guys most other women want. This is where the issue remains. I don't even think that's necessarily true. I think there's diminishing returns after a woman is like a 7/10. I don't think a woman with a high value man is the same value as him. The guy almost al…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:33 PM
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Labia preferences are more comparable to women prefering circumcised or uncircumcised. Penis size is worse because there's an actual functional impact to not meeting the preference rather than simply visual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:21 PM
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There's two disconnects imo. The importance/weight of physical attraction and the threshold someone has to meet to qualify as physically attractive. 1.There has been and continues to be a narrative that men are the more shallow sex and that women value personality more than looks. I don't anyone believed looks didn't matter at all but I do think a lot bought into the idea that they were less important than they actually are and that women were less shallow than men. However I think with the incr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:02 PM

Could you elaborate on why you were unimpressed with the app?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:42 AM
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So you "take issue with how grifters and other unsuccessful red pilled cultists train one another to fail" but are not trying to persuade them otherwise and also indirectly confirm what a lot of them say to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:37 AM

Are you hot? I feel like you'd need one of those 3 things (rich, famous, hot) lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:28 AM
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Did he hookup with other women attractive the company aside from you? Do you know if he's married now? I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make from it. I'm not trying to make a point atm, there's just things that pop out sometimes that I get curious about to see how closely it maps onto my worldview but I'm not trying to argue with you about those things. We’ve gotten somewhat off topic of what I responded to initially Sorry. I do appreciate the respectful detailed and responses. I have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:27 AM
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Do you think guys on ppd ever come away from conversations with you having a more positive view of women than before they interacted with you? Guys going down the redpill rabbit hole is not solely a result of grifters/cultists. It doesn't happen with also being confirmed by what they observe women saying and doing. When I read through the women's responses on this sub they are often not actually disagreeing with the core aspects of red/blackpill. They only really push back on how men feel about/…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:02 AM
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Can you say how much older the chad was? Also when you say chad do you mean your personal definition of chad or would he likely be considered chad by conventional standards too?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:37 AM

Thank you for the detailed response. I have a couple more follow-up questions... Hypothetically, would your husband have met your looks threshold for when you were in your fwb phase? Like imagine the personality of the chad but with your husbands appearance. How did you end up meeting the chad? and do you think you are stacy tier?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:12 AM

Ok that's fair that you view both scenarios the same. Follow-up question. Would you say the guys you had sex with quickly and the guys you took things slow with were roughly equivalent in terms of physical attraction? Or to put it another way, hypothetically if you had met your current guy PRIOR to you having been burned would he have met your threshold to sleep with him quickly?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:29 AM
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Again, it seems like you do agree with the red/black pill narrative about women and casual sex. You really only seem to take issue with how guys feel about that dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:19 AM

But you seem to be saying unless you are Brad Pitt/Henry Cavil level attractive then you need to stay in your lane and accept you are not going to be chosen for casual sex or sex on the first date. And as a result you also have to accept that is the caliber of men your wife did have sex on the first date with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:39 AM

You're just confirming what we say. You are not physically attractive to the guys you make wait for sex. The guys you do sleep with casually are the ones you are really attracted to. Really the only part you disagree with is how men should react to it. You think men should just willingly accept that he should marry a woman who doesnt find him physically attractive and overlook her sexual history because he's not worthy of wanting better for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:26 AM

lol, how convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:22 AM

Maybe a different woman would vibe better with his personality. Maybe she's a height queen and he's not tall enough to meet her "climb like a tree" on the first date threshold. In either case if he wants to vet for a woman who feels sexual chemistry for him he's probably better off moving on and either finding a different woman, working on self improvement or some combination thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:14 AM

Is it illogical for women to vet men based on whether they pay for dates and how expensive the dates are as a barometer of the man's interest/investment?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:10 AM

I'm not referring to feelings necessarily. I'm referring to physical attraction/sexual chemistry. It's no different than women assuming men who are willing to pay for the date are more interested in them than men who want to split the bill. Women don't seem to find that assumption illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:56 AM
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Ok, I will concede that there doesn't seem to be concrete evidence for hair texture/color being sexually dimorphic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:48 AM
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I agree that a average height guy with a hot face can be prefered over an ugly face guy who is tall. My point is more that Peter's problem is not his height it's his face. When women reject Peter it's not because "eew he's too tall" it's because "eew is face is gross". A 6'8 Jamie Vardy would be more desirable than the 5'10 Jamie Vardy just as the 6'8 Peter Crouch is better off than a 5'10 Peter Crouch would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:45 AM

How is that perception wrong tho? I could understand how it's not ideal in theory but in practice does it not kind of play out like that? Why is essentially all sex work women selling to men? Why do women talk about how they are the table and men need to pay for dates prove their worthiness/interest? Why do women often admit that "off course the guys we have sex with immediately are hotter you'd do the same if you had the options we do"? It seems pretty logical if a woman is spreading her legs o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:39 AM

I don't understand their logic that a woman who has sex on the first date is going to be "low n count" That's not really the logic. The logic is that the typical woman has a medium bodycount, some of whom she slept with early on some of who she took it slow with and the ideal is to be in the half she was most excited to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:32 AM
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Do you think he'd be considered more or less attractive at 5'10 ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:27 AM
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I'm trying to give an analogous scenario to the woman having casual sex with really hot guys and then marrying a less attractive guy. If you have a better analogy I'm open to hearing it. The vast majority of prositution happens in good hotels, often with guest relations making the arrangements. What about brothels? or is that only a minority of all prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:26 AM
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He married a model.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:19 AM
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Doesn't make them desirable I agreed that rarity on its own does not make something desirable. I'm just saying rarity is an additional factor on top of whatever made it desirable enhancing its value. honestly I think you didn't even bother to Google yourself, I just think you thought I'd take your word for it I did Google it but relied on the Google Gemini summary which said: "Yes, to a certain extent, hair color can be considered sexually dimorphic, meaning there are noticeable differences in h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:43 PM
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Does that not make sense to you? Men praise/envy him because he has achieved something most men can’t. Women give it a pass because usually the guys capable of doing that are physically desirable men. Also from the womans perspective , dick is "low value and abundant" so all his exes got that which women view as low value and abundant while she gets what women view as the prize (commitment from a highly desirable man that other women wanted but couldn't get) So through that lens it makes sense w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:36 PM
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I think I'm in the middle actually. I agree that rareness on its own doesn't necessarily make something desirable but it is often a component of it. Hair texture and color have nothing to do with sexual dimorphism anyway I could see texture having some relation to it. In fact if you Google search "hair texture sexual dimorphism" and "hair color sexual dimorphism" there does seem to be articles suggesting there is some relation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:30 PM
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The latter isn’t praised for being scammed sure Ok so when you said "men do this and get praised" were you talking about the former scenario (men who are hot enough to have a lot of casual sex naturally) ? No one would care about the woman he married or claim that he’s some kind if bad person for it If his past was known do you really think other women in her social circle wouldn't be blasting him or saying she deserves better??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:21 PM
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Well there's good rare and bad rare. A 6'8 man and a 5'0 man are probably equally rare but it's obvious which one is more desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:06 PM
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Is your thought process that Lizzo is the hottest within her niche while Margot Robbie is more mid within a generic but popular category (skinny blonde blue eyes) ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:01 PM
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What are you referring to here? Guys who have a lot of casual sex and then settle down with a more modest woman? or Guys who got scammed out of money from hot chicks? The former is sometimes praised. The latter, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:50 PM
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Isn't the risk low still? IIRC it goes from 10/1100 to 15/1100 or something like that. So yeah it's a big increase in relative terms but in absolute terms the odds of an autistic child are still really low. I feel like the root reason women don't want to date an older man is just that his looks give her the ick and everything else is post hoc rationalization. It's kinda the same with the bodycount discussion guys will write paragraphs about why they don't want to date high n women and will cite …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:44 PM
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Do you believe sexuality is a choice? On paper, if I could choose my sexuality I would rather be gay or bi because like you said gay dating seems more accessible and easier compared to dating women. I hate how much of a winner take all dynamic there is to straight dating and how much more leverage the typical woman has compared to the typical man. Gay dating seems more even in that if you're an average looking gay man, your match is also an average looking gay man and you both in theory have the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:11 PM
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The scenario I'm thinking of is a guy who is a repeat customer to either a prostitute or an OnlyFans creator and over time spends $1000s of dollars on them. Then wants to go on cheap coffee dates and have a cheap wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:56 PM
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The cool thing about height is just how exact it is and how virtually unanimous it is. Compare that to something like a nose job or chin implant, there's not going to be widespread agreement that your new nose/chin is more attractive than your old one and you're certainly not going to have any quantifiable measure for it With height it's practically unanimous that everything else being equal a taller man is more desirable. So the taller version of you is essentially garanteed to be more desirabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:28 PM

I don't see how that conflicts with my viewpoint. I agree body language matters but I'd still categorize that under appearance/how you present visually.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:54 PM
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Probably based on attraction, cost, vibe. Now answer mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:01 PM
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I was thinking in terms of him being cheap on the dates and not buying an expensive ring. I think its definitely possible a guy could spend more on a prostitutes or onlyfans creator than his wife if he was a repeat customer. Is it common? no I'm just trying to give an analogous scenario to women having casual sex with really hot guys who she gave more of herself sexually to and than marrying a less attractive guy who she isn't giving as much to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 06:59 PM
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So hypothetically if a man had spent a lot of money to sleep with a bunch of extremely hot prostitutes then marries a less attractive woman who he doesnt spend as much money on should the woman be ok with it since it's the same as her prioritizing really hot men for casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:35 PM

It still seems like the visuals are both the root and most influential factor. The "vibe" is usually just how your mind is perceiving the visuals and filling in the blanks. And in a way guys do the same thing. Guys often create scenarios in their head and make assumptions about a womans personality based on their appearance too and can be disappointed if the reality doesn't match the fantasy but it's still the looks driving it all in both cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:21 PM
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Can someone women do it? Sure. We're talking about in general tho. Which gender complains more about "feeling used for sex" and having trouble getting commitment? I'd say that's a way more common complaint from women than men. Men are more likely to complain they can't get laid or that they have to jump through hoops to get laid. This is also another example of men ruining things for other men. Devaluing women who enjoy fucking men and taking them for granted It really doesn't. The root problem …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:10 PM
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Does it have the same issues that people complain about with the other apps like the guys being fuckboys and women being flakey?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:01 PM

Did you prefer it over the less exclusive dating apps? What counts as a 'cool' profession? I know the obvious ones like athlete, musician, actress, influencer ect. Yeah I've read they do vet for follower count.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:33 PM

You said they met on Raya tho. I thought you needed to be rich and famous to get invited?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:35 PM

I dont think its uncommon for women to be capable of being aroused by men purely based on looks. To me the main difference between men and women is just how high quality the looks need to be in order to illicit those feelings. Absolutely men experience attraction based on looks far easier and to a wider variety of women but to say that most women can't experience arrousal based on looks I dony think is accurate. It's just that most men are not physically masculine enough to meet the threshold re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:34 PM

Are your friends celebrities? He managed to sexually turn them both off. I think there are two different parts here. Can women become sexually aroused by a guy purely based on looks? and Are women more prone than men to losing attraction to an otherwise hot person if his personality doesn't match his hot exterior? I'd say yes to both.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:29 PM

I've definitely seen women become aroused over men based on physical appearance without knowing anything else about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:26 PM
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Are men ok with being unhappy in a relationship as long as she made all her exes unhappy too? That's so weird That can be the case sometimes. However it's not necessarily that they were unhappy previously. It's the comparison and realization that she willingly offered/did more for the ex than for him that causes the unhappiness in a lot of cases. I could see the same concept happening in a work scenario like maybe someone is currently happy with their salary but then find out a coworker/friend m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:39 PM
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It's a combination of them believing women have it worse and that men are the oppressors/cause of all their problems so it pisses them off to see men complain about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:27 AM
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Why you ask? Because it increases their chances of being "the best she's ever had". I think that's a big factor but on some level I think just the mental image of a lot of men sleeping with their girl triggers a strong "ick" response even if all the guys were hypothetically inferior to him. But yeah the assumption usually is that womens casual sex standards for looks are higher so if a woman has a high bodycount she was likely hooking up with highly physically attractive/masculine men. A lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:04 AM
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Correct and it didn't work in 2016 either. The women made the same sex ban threats back then too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:57 AM
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I don't get it either. It's not like the sex ban resets their bodycounts. So basically a sex ban equates to the women who are non virgins and dabbled in casual sex are now going to make the husband material guys wait until marriage for what the other dudes got on the first date. Not seeing how this is a desirable outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:56 AM
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They're going to make exceptions for certain guys like they always have. It's a running joke how the same women that say "no hookups" in her bio are often the most likely to fuck on the first date as long as the guy is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:50 AM
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I'd say the inverse tbh. They'll continue putting out for the fuckboys but make the average men wait longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:41 AM
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Thanks! I hope things are well with you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:16 AM
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I'm fine, thanks for asking. I just haven't been as active on this sub lately but I'm still on the discord. I dont recognize most of the names here anymore but I occasionally check in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 01:37 AM
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we'd figure it out by just copying the women and buying 7" dildos and 10000 rpm vibrators
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:17 PM
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Probably a lot of lesbian orgies
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:49 PM
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None of this scales. The top 20% best looking guys are not rich enough to support children for all the women. And the remaining 80% of men aren't going to put effort into society if they have no families. If all the women reproduce all the womens shit genes still pass on to the next generation. Sub 6ft men will always exist as long as short women continue to pass on their mid tier genes. More realistic option is just lean in on genetic engineering/designer babies and that way you can filter BOTH…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:28 PM
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most inspirational story I have heard in a long time thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:24 PM
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If all women reproduce shitty genes will still be passed on to the next generation. A lot of guys who are under 6ft have a tall father who mated with a short woman which caused him to be under 6ft. It's got to go both ways if you really want to maximize the quality of the gene pool
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:17 PM
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I agree with that distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:57 AM
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Personally, I'd find that very suspicious but if you're happy then good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 02:21 PM
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PPD women will sometimes say that a high n man cant expect a low n woman. This anecdote simply shows that they absolutely can. I'm not claiming that 100% of low n women are ok with high n men just that there's enough that the high n men can still land a low n woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 02:06 PM
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Did she ever prefer virgins when she was younger and having casual sex or did she only suddenly prefer virgins when it was time to find someone to settle down with?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 02:04 PM
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early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:04 AM
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Just saw another post on r/Dating where a woman is posting about how she wants to lose her virginity to a fwbs who is a lot more experienced than her. It highlights how full of shit ppd women are when they try to claim a guy needs to have a low n count in order to want/get a low n woman. If anything the promiscuous guys have the best odds of getting to date a virgin or low n woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:54 PM
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yeah he's got a husband
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:30 PM
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I think he's gay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:12 AM
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youd have to find someone who used to be hot but was disfigured in an accident
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:08 AM
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It'll probably be easier for manufacturers to make the bots for women because you'll all order the same thing (6'6 8 inches, fit) just with different hair/eye color combinations. Sex bots for men will likely be more difficult because they'll have to accommodate a wider variety of types.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:40 PM
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They do care about looks. All this proves is that in some cases if a guy is tall and playing a fantasy character in a show/movie wheee hes in an unnatural position of power/influence sometimes they can find non-model men attractive. However, most of the time the lead guy in women's romance novels/shows are very stereotypicallly attractive ie Twilight, 50 Shades of Grey, Bridgerton ect
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:18 PM
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No they'll probably be a subscription model so you have to pay a monthly fee
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:11 PM
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I said I'd get it IF it was cheaper and less risky. And please show me where I shamed women for getting fake tits? I'll wait ...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:09 PM
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For sure. If they could get the price to maybe 15k and the recovery wasn't 6+ months of relearning how to walk I'd be down for sure. I'd love to be able to widen my collar bones too since broad shoulders are the other thing women almost unanimously prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:01 PM
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Ultimately I think advancements in limb lengthening surgery to make it more affordable and less risky would be the ideal solution here. I think women typically prefer a guy to be at least 8 inches taller than her and you're never going to change womens preferences so the next best thing is to change yourself to match what is actually wanted/desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:37 PM
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alright lock in my answer for that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:35 PM
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ok I guess which ever ones hotter then
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:28 PM
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Says deleted
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:25 PM
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lol yeah that's pretty unhinged. I think the best thing for a guy to do is just disengage and ghost/block before she does. It just pathetic to not only get blocked first but then to get new phones just to try to tell them off further.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:24 PM
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are nice girls an option
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:20 PM
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It's a balancing act probably where you cant be too low effort but on the flip side for most men women are kinda like slot machines so you can't afford to be overly invested in the outcome in the early stages. Women swipe left on the vast majority of guys and then ghost a good percentage of thr guys they do swipe right on They are extremely flakely and get the "ick" at the drop of a dime. It doesn't make sense to be high effort when the likelihood of any given interaction going anywhere is in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:36 PM
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Its all semantics. It's like the definition of racism, some define it as "discrimination/prejudice against a person/group on the basis of their race" but others tack on the "done by a person from a racial background that that was historically in power" qualifier to make it so the definition doesn't count racism against white people as valid. Similarly feminists will usually tailor the definition of patriarchy, sexism, rape culture ect to match their desired outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:31 PM
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It's the whole package but yeah his face definitely matters a lot here. Same height with an average face and half those girls would have swiped left on him
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:08 AM
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he's what women are talking about when they say they like "average" guys
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:41 AM
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I mean if that's your response then he kinda did gotcha lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:15 AM
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Like unless you are Quasimodo looking or really deformed. You are someone's type I don't agree with the idea that a guy needs to be a perfect 6'4 gigchad to get girls but I also disagree with what you wrote. A guy can be non deformed and still have virtually no women find him attractive. So basically I don't think the bar is as high as some men say it is but it's not as low as women try to say it is either. I think a guy needs to be like a 6 or 7/10 for women to find him attractive. Anything 5 a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:39 AM
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I agree that not everyone agrees on how attractive someone is but I do think there is still a certain level of concenus or bar one needs to pass to be in the running Like I've seen women disagree on certain celebrities where one might say Jason Momoa is ugly and that she prefers Henry Cavilwhile another thinks Cavil is mid but Momoa is hot. So a guy can be conventionally hot and still have some women think hes mid/ugly. However I don't think women find truely average men hot. So the keyboard pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:31 AM
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Sure but everything else being similar you're going to prefer 6ft+ , no? And even if we just are talking faces, doesnt having a nice face imply above average?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:33 AM
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6ft with attractive face is not exactly average tho
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:31 PM
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Because I would say the men I have met on apps were average? But I thought your top level post was saying that when presented with the 6ft attractive guy on the apps then obviously yall are going to pick that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:08 PM
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The best dating coach will be a guy with similar traits to those they are trying to help. A woman has never had to attract women as a man and a 6'2 facially handsome guy has never had to attract women as an average Joe
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:31 PM
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I agree. It's usually just an involuntary ick and all the other stuff is just extra justifications on top of that. Like I can say they're more likely to cheat/divorce which is true but even if I could see the future and know the high n woman would never cheat I still would feel gross commiting to one. Same thing if a man sees a prostitute, women will claim the reason it's a deal breaker is because the woman might have been trafficked or because it's illegal buy even if the guy could prove it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:09 PM
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Were the guys they had casual sex with also average?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:43 PM
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It will vary based on the type of guy she ends up with. If the guy she marries is just as tall hot and endowed as the men she had casual sex with then shell probably be just as slutty with them as she was with her casual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:26 PM
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It doesn't have to be like that. Just like some women get to have their cake and eat it too there are men who also get to have the best of both worlds and get a low n partner who is fun to have sex with ie the lady in the streets freak in the sheets. And conversely lots of men end up with the worst of both worlds where his partner is high n and was slutty and easy to get for for the better looking fuckboy guys but then is more reserved and vanilla with him the husband/boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:02 PM
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no worries I write a lot too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:56 AM
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But I still don’t agree though that biology automatically makes men less emotional about sex, attraction being equal.I really think that is a socialized phenomenon In what way do you think its been socialized? I think it makes sense that the sex that risks pregnancy from having sex might be predisposed to become more emotionally attached afterwards . Strongly disagree. If that were true, then men posting thirst traps would be enough for women to want casual sex. Thirst traps are usually cringe t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:53 AM
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There's two sets of options: A. members of the opposite sex that we find acceptable B. members of the opposite sex that fund us acceptable and then our "final options" are the intersections of A and B. Womens options are almost always bottlenecked or limited by (A) Men's options are almost always limited or bottlenecked by (B) Men and women may have the same complaint but it's for polar opposite reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:00 AM
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But what I’m saying is that men and women are equally prone to developing feelings, all else being equal All else isn't equal though. I don't think it's misandrist to say men are on average better at separating sex and emotions probably due to biology. I also dont think it's unreasonable to say both genders are more prone to developing feelings towards people who are exceptionally hot/charismatic. However since being exceptionally hot and charismatic is a prerequisite for men to have casual sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:41 AM
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I know that's why I specified (assuming a normal distribution) but if the distribution is not normal then you're right that it might not be 50% above/below
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:30 PM
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I disagree that men develop feelings for their fuckgirls as often as women do.I don't think there's this huge pool of men having that problem but holding back for fear of judgment. Its not really the point tho. Do you agree or disagree that women can be and often are more picky on looks for a casual sex partner than for a relationship while men are more likely to fuck down for casual sex but be more picky on looks for a relationship? Secondly.. What do you think is more common? A. Men who can ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:13 PM
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Women would prefer to marry a guy who is equally as hot as the guys they have casual sex with. Women do end up developing feelings for those guys quite often. That's why womens top complaint about dating is fuckboys and men not wanting to commit. The female equivalent of the friendzone is a situationship. I think I’m realizing that men and women probably both settle for each other in marriage at near equal rates Women settle harder though because the guy they marry is less attractive than the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:35 PM
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or "no neck ed"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:51 PM
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no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:49 PM
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Because they have more things on their wishlists so naturally the group that has a longer list of preferences will be the one settling more. Also women tend to be able to fuck across and upwards for casual sex while men fuck across and down. So it's more likely that the woman views her spouse as a downgrade simply because men can't typically have casual sex with hotter women than they can date
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:45 PM
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I think it typically goes like this... Woman complains about her experiences with men which is usually something to the effect of "all men are fuckboys" , "all the men I dated cheated on me" , "they keep using me for sex", "my partner walked out on me and now I'm a single mom" ect and then men respond "well you should have chosen better" I don't think men just say it unprompted it's usually in response to a woman venting/blaming men for negative experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:31 PM
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I'd in theory go for it if she was really attractive and low bodycount. Then I'd be getting something rare in exchange for that arrangement. Otherwise it definitely seems like a raw deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:26 PM
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It's generally just used in response to when women complain about being mistreated, cheated, used ect by the men they've gone for. Women have all the cards and a level of choice men could only dream of so yes if a woman has a pattern of ending up with guys who treat her poorly she needs to choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:20 PM
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I'm retarded don't be abelist
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:17 PM
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You are seriously suggesting all married women have previously slept with someone taller than her husband? Not all but I do think most women have had at least a couple casual flings with tall guys so any woman who is married to a guy under 6ft ft has fucked someone taller than her husband. The only women who haven't are the ones married go tall men. Same with dick size. Most women will admit that they had at least one ex with a huge dick so any woman married to a man with an average dick has had…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:30 PM
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why do you get called a pickme?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:26 PM
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rip short guys ⎧ᴿᴵᴾ⎫◟◟◟◟◟◟◟◟ ❀◟(ó ̯ ò, )
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:22 PM
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lol don't give in so easily It's weird af imo when people post private pictures of their friends/family on unhinged reddit forums
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:54 PM
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who do you typically expect them to end up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:52 PM
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should change your flair to "Pickme for Chad"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:50 PM
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Do you think the physical attraction threshold a guy needs to pass to meet a womans casual sex standards is higher/lower or the same as a womans relationship standards? The majority of even attractive men aren't going to pull a wife just by being a pretty face I'm not saying the guy has to meet a womans marriage standards just based on his face. I'm saying if a woman is married to a guy who she wouldn't have found attractive enough to have had casual sex with then he's the bb. Its about meeting …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:43 PM
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If the average is 30 (assuming normal distribution) that means half are getting married later than 30. And iirc the average time dating prior to marriage is 2 -5 years so maybe starting dating 27 would be more realistic if we want to pick a number in the middle. Howecer even if we go with your example of them starting to date at 25, that does not mean he's the first pick. My viewpoint doesnt hinge on the age they get married. My point is more about casual sex vs marriage and that women can fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:31 PM
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Sure everyone wants that but women dont need to be hot to have casual sex. Like you said they have all the power can sleep with hot guys and then the nonhot guys they end up married to are the last pick. A guy also doesn't need to be rich to be a betabux. Betabux just means he isn't attractive enough based on his looks alone for women to want to have sex with. He is only worth having sex under the condition that he is commiting and providing. Providing doesn't have to be a millionaire or anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:55 PM
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It's funny how many men and women with blue/purple flairs end up saying things that are almost indistinguishable from what blackpillers say
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:38 PM
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Also AF/BB kind of ridiculous. Don't you think? Aren't you basically agreeing with it in your post? Rhat of course women fuck the hottest guys and then settle it's only natural because they hold all the cards. That's more or less what you said and doesn't in any way conflict with af/bb Do you think AF/BB applies to men to? No, if anything men fuck down for casual so the women they end up in relationships with are more attractive and get better treatment than he gave to the short term women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:35 PM
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I think its way more common for women to gossip than to cheat lots of women never cheat but very few women can avoid girl talk sessions with their friends
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:46 AM
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Should probably just assume her friends know everything you tell her plus how big your dick is and how long you last in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:36 AM
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I'm so confused How is his comment in any way related to you??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:31 AM
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I think most women are just not all that excited about or into their partners. The women who are will do a lot for him but generally the guy needs to be hotter than her for that to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:16 AM
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does God put out?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:21 AM
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Women can shame them but they're not going to want to pass up a chance with a 6'5 pretty boy. It's not necessarily the difficulty it's that the men who sleep around are above average because a man needs to be above average to fuck lots of women. A woman doesn't need to be special in any way to fuck lots of men. A fat medeocre women can rack up a high bodycount as easily as a hot woman so there's less incentive for men to overlook it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:29 PM
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Ultimately men decide what is desirable in women and women decide what is desirable in men. There's litterally nothing preventing women from avoiding promiscuous men and prioritizing low bodycount men but yall dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:25 PM
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Can just only consider marrying women who agree to start off casual first and/or make sure to ask about sexual history before getting married to them. the whole idea that someone doesn’t want to hook up because they don’t find you attractive enough to have casual sex with is a concept that’s made up in your head You even admitted further up in the convo that women have higher attraction standards for casual sex than for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:34 AM
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I think a lot of women are drawn to sociopaths/psychopaths actually the worst thing you can be personality-wise is boring and passive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:52 PM
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If they exclusively sought them out perhaps but if they just happened to hit it off with one I dont think it would get much push back in a world where looks were equalized across age brackets. And I could see women being more willing to pursue the older guys as they'd have much more money to spoil them but the same looks and stamina as guys their age. It also hits on the vampire fantasy which seems to be a common trope in women's sexual fiction. The vampire has the physical appearance of an attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:46 PM
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I think a lot of it just boils down to the "ick factor". A young person signing a contract is not going to illicit the same "ick" as them getting the mental image of an older guy having sex with a early to mid 20s woman. I bet if we ever find a way to halt aging such that a 30 or 40 yo man has the same skin and hair quality as a 20 year old man then age gaps won't be as stigmatized as they are now. Will some still take issue, sure but I still think most of it comes down to the looks. All this st…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:53 PM
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SMV - probably a 2 or 3 since Im only 5'8, slightly below average face, introverted, not overweight but not muscular and only average dick. So needless to say I'm not what women look for in a casual sex partner. RMV - probably a 4 or 5 since I make 6 figures, have no drug or alcohol problems, no debt, have above average savings and investment. I'd maybe be viewed as medeocre in LA or NYC since apparently everyone there makes 500k but in my state I'm doing OK. I think I'm a decent communicator to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:58 PM
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I guess if it still looks good
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:16 PM
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It still sounds like "attractive enough" for casual sex is a higher threshold than attractive enough for a relationship tho. You’re making it sound like women are dating ugly guys because they can’t get with the hot guys I think there is an element of that yes. I'm not saying women fall in love with every guy they have casual sex with but women complaining about situationships or feeling used from casual sex does seem pretty common. And from my anecdotal experience the guys I know who are fuckbo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:14 PM
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Why not as common as I think. You and a couple and a lot of the other women here do seem to aknowlege that a guy needs to be exceptionally attractive in order for yall to want to have casual sex with them implying the looks threshold a guy must pass is noticably higher for hookups than for relationships. This also aligns with what red and blackpillers say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:24 PM
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For those that think it is deceptive, do you think women shouldn’t do it? I think they can do it but I think men should be able to wear shoes with lifts and hide their hairlines without stigma. I’ve also heard people say it’s unfair women get to improve their appearance through makeup and men don’t really have an equivalent. I’d disagree because the use of makeup increases the “average” beauty standards. Maybe but it also helps women below a certain threshold raise their attractiveness to where …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:55 PM
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But aren't the guys women match with on the apps more physically attractive than the ones they meet irl? And what you said about feeling the pressure to have sex sooner with the app guys but taking things slow with the irl guys sounds like another win for the app guys if you actually went through with sleeping with them right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:50 PM
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It’s only a negative if the guy just wants casual. If someone is looking for a relationship then they’d be happy the person they’re into is also looking for a relationship and is not interested in something casual. There's lots of guys that would think differently. If a guy knows a woman only thinks he's attractive enough to date but not attractive enough that she would have had casual sex with him a lot will take issue with that. That's one of the main pillars of redpill. Being viewed as relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:47 PM
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It's no more neurotic than womens laundry list of expectations. A woman who has had casual sex but doesn't view her husband as attractive enough for casual sex is just the worst of both worlds options. It's all the negatives of the sex positive girl and all the negatives of the traditional girl but without any of the positives from either bucket. It's not crazy to want to avoid the worst of both worlds option lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:07 AM
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that's it? of the 100s of emojis on the keyboard we only get 2?? wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:21 AM
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such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:14 AM
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draw a picture of her with microsoft paint
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:07 AM
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My view is more, I either want a woman who never had casual sex or if she has had casual sex that I would meet her standards for casual sex too. So she can have past partners as long as one of those two conditions are met.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:03 AM
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they should have used tretinoin
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:58 AM
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are you tall and/or have a good face?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:58 AM
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Any emojis? and even if he's tall and attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:56 AM
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do guys use emojis more than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:50 AM
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It would be better if it was to their face so men could make more informed decisions on who to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:45 AM
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I agree. I've seen lots of women here talk about how they love guys who wine and dine them but unless it actually pays off for the guy it's advice that only benefits them at the expense of those men. Especially since those same women have engaged in casual sex with men who never did the things they claim men ought to do. It goes back to the classic watch what they do not what they say. Who are the guys they are actually sleeping with and whenever theres a disconnect where those men don't have or…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:25 AM
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is it mostly women in the group?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:04 AM
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do you think its possible for there to be a dating app where women swiped right on a similar percentage of men as men do women? if so what would that app look like in structure
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:46 AM
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you could try low dose oral minoxidil first or in addition to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:38 AM
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I'm a very conflicted person. It's definitely not ideal and I do have reservations over it but I could see myself eventually succumbing. Also women don't give a rats ass about what their future husband might feel about their past so I don't know if I should care about how a potential future wife might feel about mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:37 AM
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could you rephrase the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:23 AM
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There are exceptions to everything. I'm saying generally if a guy can easily get casual sex he usually won't struggle for relationships. And we can also just look at what women vs men complain about. Womens equivalent of the friendzone seems to be situationships/fuckzone where they have feelings for a guy they are casually fucking. Again not 100% of the time but it happens at least as often as men having unrequited feelings for a friend. Or let's put it this way... What do you think is more comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:22 AM
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ooh Did you wait to long to try the actual pills?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:16 AM
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I'd pay for a early 20s sugar baby to explore my sexuality with. It gives me sexual experience and if god forbid I ever get married I could have the satisfaction of knowing I spent more money on that girl than I will on my wife's engagement ring just like women will give special treatment to the exceptionally hot guys they have casual sex with but claim not to care about. Then all would be balanced
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:15 AM
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they affect hormone levels and some people have mood and sexual side effects from them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:11 AM
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if they do have them slide into my dms
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:08 AM
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See that's kinda the point. It's a prerequisite for the guy to be hot to be hookup material but men can get relationships without being hot. Sure women aren't going to fall in love with 100% of the guys they have casual sex with but it happens often enough that the guys who can get casual sex easily usually can get relationships easily too. However there are lots of guys who end up married or in relationships with women who never would have given them a chance for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:05 AM
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Basically blackpill but they think lookism mainly or disproportionately affects women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:56 PM
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I guess my root opinion is that the gender ratio is not really the main reason apps suck for me. I think even if the apps have 50/50 it'll still result in women swiping left on over 90% like they di now. So with red pill and west4b becoming more mainstream I wonder if even more women will ditch dating apps and dating in general. I have seen articles saying the apps are struggling financially so maybe lol Although that will be more to do with men as women probably never spent as much on in app pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:12 PM
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I mean if it helps, women don't really prefer average dicks either. Unless you're 7+ inches you kinda have to accept whatever girl you date has had bigger than you and likely preferred it. So most men are in the same bucket as far as that is concerned until ai finds a way for there to be a safe method of penis enlargement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 09:27 PM
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Am I shilling the apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:39 PM
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The point is that women typically handwave men's complaints about the apps away by saying something to the effect of "women dont even use the apps of course you aren't getting matches". However if it's the case that similar percentages of women use the apps as men but just aren't active as long because they can match with guys super quickly and then leave then I think a lot of men's dating app complaints still stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:34 PM
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That's a reach and even uf she was I don't think autistic women typically prefer autistic men. Just like short women don't prefer short men. Anxious women dont prefer anxious men. Fat women don't prefer fat men...ect
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:22 PM
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Do the females in those species have long difficult pregnancies ? So it seems to be a testosterone thing rather than a gender thing. Do we know if high testosterone women find a higher percentage of men attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:27 PM
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There's always the choice to just do serial monogamy but never marry
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:23 PM
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in what species are the men the choosers?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:13 PM
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Let's say a man used to subscribe to a womans onlyfans account and spent 10s of thousands of dollars on her but then when he gets in a relationship he ends up spending less on the girlfriend than he did on the OF girl and his mentality is "well duh obviously I'm going to spend more on her shes way hotter than you its only natural I give special treatment to the hotter girls" Would a woman not feel resentmentful or lose interest in a guy for that? they need to learn how to take accountability for…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:59 PM
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There's a balance between the two. I don't think women need to marry at 21 necessarily but I also don't see a woman sleeping with guys that are significantly hotter than her future husband in her 20s is going to lead to a successful marriage either. And again guys are increasingly becoming more resentful with women having that mentality of "I'm going to explore my sexuality and have my gutts rearranged by chads and leave the guys on my level on the backburner" . Yall have the right to do that ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:54 PM
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I don't think that's how it pans out nor do I think most guys will view it that way. Can't we just do away with marriage. I think those women would be better off just continuing to pine for those 6'2 athletic guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:41 PM
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A woman who has had her share of dating experiences and built a picture of what she wants in a man over the course of 15 years of dating. The disconnect is that most women can have casual sex easily in their 20s but only a subset of men have those same options. So there's not enough men who had lots of casual experiences for those women to all pair off woth their equivalents. And some of those experienced guys will end up marrying less experienced women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:39 PM
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But as a man, your clock ticked as well. You missed out on dating that hot 20 year old sorority girl when you were in your early-mid 20s. I don't expect the hot sorority girl. I'd be fine with an average looking woman. What I don't want is an average woman who was in situationships and having flings with athletes and fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:33 PM
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I'd say it leaves less potential for resentment and dissatisfaction on both sides. If you're going to spend your 20s getting railed by 6'2 athletic guys with 7 inch dicks and then promise to be exclusive to a guy who is average then the odds of deadbedroom, cheating/divorce are likely higher. This dynamic is a large part of redpill and guys like Andrew Tate gaining popularity so there's a decent enough pool of men who clearly feel resentment over how women move in thr dating market which drives …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:06 PM
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lol you're such a condescending fuck. Yours wasn't any better. A guy wanting to spin plates and being frustrated with women pushing for commitment isn't even contradictory. And yes very often the same women who claim that marriage is a worse deal for women still end up wanting their partners to propose and dislike the idea of being "forever girlfriends".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:49 PM
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ok makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:44 PM
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How tall are you and what's your face & hairline like?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:53 PM
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There's no shot she would have been interested in a guy like Elon if he wasn't rich. She's certainly not a personality digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:52 PM
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Women : In general women have more to lose in terms of independence when they get married than men do. Also women: Ugh my boyfriend is dragging his feet and making me a forever girlfriend 😭. I want that ring. I'm going to break up if he doesn't marry me😡
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:46 PM
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Most women are average/unremarkable in most qualities too. It's also funny how yall will swear men are the more shallow gender but you seem to be admitting that unless a guy is above average in every quality women cant be satisfied with him. Honestly we need to just do away with marriage. Women can let themselves be fucktoys for the small percentage of 666 guys and share them. I don't get why yall push for marriage so much when basically you view and treat most men exactly the way redpillers and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:42 PM
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They'll be like "you can't judge me on my past everyone has casual sex" and then "teehee obviously we only have casual sex woth the exceptionally hot guys and that privilege is only for some guys" so basically the husband/relationship only guy gets all the negatives of the trad girls plus all the negative of the slut but litterally none of the positives from either side
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:29 AM
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Yeah I've heard it from late 20s early 30s women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:21 AM
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The timing matters a lot actually. Scenario A she lowers her standards and Billy gets to marry her before she's had a hoe ohase and been railed by by fuckboys. Scenario B she spends her early 30s getting railed by fuckboys and then after she's failed to lock any of them down lowers her standards and marries Billy. Scenario A is way better than Scenario B.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:09 AM
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In general women have more to lose in terms of independence when they get married than men do. Why is it that women seem to be the ones that push for marriage more than men do then? I have never heard of a man lament over being a "forever boyfriend" or how his gf is "dragging her feet on marriage" but I have seen it with women. They'll even put ultimatums like "if he doesn't propose by x date I'm leaving him". If marriage was a much better deal for men than for women shouldn't it be the opposite…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:05 AM
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Not really. Very few women are too ugly for relationships. Most women get to have their cake and eat it too where they can fuck guys that are hotter than them and then marry a guy on their level. Meanwhile the only men who get to have their cake and eat it too are the guys like the one you had your fling with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:42 AM
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Its not one or the other. From what I've observed guys who can have casual sex can usually get relationships & marriage too. However there are lots of guys who can get relationships but don't have many opportunities to have casual sex since as you said the looks standards are higher. So basically the super hot fuckboy guys get the best of both worlds. They get to easily and effortlessly stick their dicks in the future wive's of men less attractive than them and then when they are ready to settle…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:31 AM
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That's true, there is no good that can come from telling ones partner they fucked someone significantly hotter in the past That being said, I think the dynamics you described do kinda validate what redpill call AF/BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:16 AM
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Ok perfect that answer that question. Next question... Is it the same for your husband? Does he think a woman needs to be exceptionally hot in order to have flings with? And did he have flings with women significantly hotter than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:48 AM
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This is a different question. I understand he's less attractive than the hookup guy. What I'm asking is even though he's less attractive would he have been attractive enough to hookup with ? or are your hookup standards higher such that your finance is too ugly for your casual sex standards
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:22 AM
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Ok let's swap it... Imagine the fling guys personality in your husbands body and your husbands personality in the fling guys body Would you have had a fling with a guy who had your husbands looks but the fling guys personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:11 AM
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I'd agree it is hypocritical to criticize having two different standards when men have two different standards. However the complaint isn't necessarily that women have two different standards. It's about how those standards manifest and how women gaslight men about it. It would be like if guys spent lots of money on their casual sex partners but then were more stingy with their gf and then tried to convince the relationship women "oh I'm more stingy with you because I like your personality more …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:09 AM
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So you wouldn't have considered your fiance good-looking enough to have a fling with?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:41 PM
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If the standards are only lowered after she's been ran through by taller hotter guys then I agree it's better she keep her standards where they are at. Lowering standards is only beneficial for men if she does it for casual sex and/or does it before being ran through.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:39 PM
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Sure both sexes have different standards. The difference is for women it's better to meet a man's long-term standards than his short-term. For men it's better to meet a womans short-term standards than her long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:22 PM
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Enter the casual fling, who I would’ve never dated for real because he was dumber than a box of bricks The more important question is when you have a long-term partner would they have been attractive enough for you to have chosen for a fling?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:20 PM
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I'd almost say the opposite ie guys who are decent looking but not quit model caliber will get a big improvement Guys who are below average looking will still be below average just with nicer clothes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:06 PM
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Are men the cause of women being weak? And do men actually complain frequently about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:08 PM

Good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:07 PM

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:05 PM

I don't think that is necessarily the case. There are common tropes about non-white and white women alike focusing their hate on "straight white males" specifically and I don't think it's far fetched that changing the race in the bear hypothetical would change people's answers. To continue with the Palestine example, there seemed to be a surprising amount of people doubting the claims that hamas sexually assaulted/raped women during and after the Oct 7 attack even though it is something that is …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:42 PM

Just because they didn't specify race doesn't mean race wouldn't influence their answer. Let's be real for a second, everyone on this reddit is constantly trying to find "gotchas" to use against the other side. It's what we do here and you are no different. Let's not pretend you are anymore good faith than the redpillers you hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:36 PM

enlighten me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:53 PM

My point is that I think the man/bear statement is political and they are imagining a white man when they make that statement because it's socially acceptable to bash white men especially. If you specify Palestinian man I think a lot of those women would swap their answers or refuse to answer because they don't want to imply they view a Palestinian man as a threat to women. It think there's a lot of overlap between women who are staunchly pro Palestine and defend hamas and women who bash men onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:36 PM

It definitely is more of a political men suck statement. I'd be super curious if the question had specified a certain type of man like Would you rather be stuck in the forest woth a bear or a Palestinian man if they'd swap their answers and say the man instead of the bear. And then obviously if its a white man they'll all pick the bear
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:22 PM
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Yeah that and shes also a gaslighter. Should have been obvious by "feminist" in her flair lol https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1cri1as/comment/l3yfuui/?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:47 PM
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and yes more replaceable is accurate if you ever do get a chad I garantee he is more rare among the general population than you are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:13 AM
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Because women are literally built for storing fat and men are built for building muscles That's irrelevant. It would be like if I said the sky is blue and then you reply "the sky is blue because blue light is scattered more than the other colors because it travels as shorter, smaller waves" and that's true but you aren't actually disagreeing with me saying the sky is blue The standards of fitness for a woman to have an attractive body are lower and more carried. Yes women are built for storing f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:10 AM
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It's not even that big of a deal. Even at 40, the typical 40 year old woman still will have an easier time dating than the average 20 year old man would. There's no age where a genetically average woman will do worse than a genetically average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:06 AM
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Because men are busy pointing out a woman's age. Women judge men's age in addition to height. Fat women are considered attractive? News to me. As if we all don't know about the notorious hips to waist ratio. More so than fat men. A woman can get away with much more body fat than men can. And even for fit, the standards for man to be considered fit are much higher than for women My point isn't that 100% of women will be considered attractive. I'm just saying the range of traits that can be attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:02 AM
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Yeah 100% If it's not her kid then we're both technically raising a kid that isn't ours biologically. That's completely different from her raising her biological kid while I'm raising the kid from her ex who is probably some tall chad who cheated on her and is off fucking other women while I'm raising his sin for him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:56 AM
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That wouldn't be a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:53 AM
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Y'all would go crazy or smtg after knowing the difference So are you now agreeing with my earlier point that there is a massive difference and it's not just "heightsexuals" that prioritize tall men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:50 AM
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Most women get to experience being attractive but it's temporary. Very few men ever get to experience being attractive. How is the latter better. And women absolutely judge men on age too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:48 AM
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Average height for a man is 5'9. Everything you stated is below average. I know. I was talking about female heights. 5'4 is average for women so my point was women can be average (5'4), below average (5'2) or above average (5'7) and gave it make little to no difference on her perceived attractiveness/desirability. Meanwhile for men the difference between average (5'9) , below average or above average plays a massive role in his desirability where even 5'9 will be deemed short by a ton of women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:45 AM
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This is how women judge men. You're really going to deny that women judge men's height much more strictly than we judge yours? do you really think a skinnyfat guy has same sex appeal as a skinny fat woman? or a skinny man vs skinny woman? there legitimately are a wider range of "attractive traits" for women than for men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:18 AM
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The standards to be attractive are higher for men. Height is a perfect example. What range of heights are attractive for women vs what range of heights are attractive for men? Is a 5'2 woman vs 5'4 vs 5'7 significantly less desirable or feminine relative to eachother? is one less stacy than the other on the basis of height. Same with body types. A woman can be viewed as attractive as skinny, skinny fat, chuby and fit. Skinny guys are ick. Skinny fat guys are ugly Chubby guys are ugly. Only fit g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:14 AM
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Men don't view ugly women positively but men find way more women attractive than women do men. There's a wider variety of heights, body types that can be considered stacy than there are that can be considered chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:07 AM
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For every 1 woman like her there's 100 "if he doesn't pay for the first date there's not going to be a second date" type women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:02 AM
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I don't believe women actually want that. They have access to higher caliber guys via OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:59 AM
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I've seen plenty of women say 7" is ideal too. And the guys who are well endowed often report how women react quite favorably to them. Sometimes they even get referral sex where another woman wants to fuck them after learning about him having a big dick. That litterally never happens for small/average endowed guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:58 AM
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Again he didn't choose a woman the same age as him to marry so he's not even a great example for this age gap convo lol If he settled down sooner he would have gotten an early 20s woman. At the age he did settle down it makes sense he married someone like her. I consider women passed a certain age used/ran through but if I was marrying for the first time at 50 then a 30 year old would be fine. That's still a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:56 AM
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out of curiosity are you bald or balding where it's heavily thinned but you refuse to shave it? also whats your physique like?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:47 AM
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women view non chads as useless trash so it's even
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:46 AM
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He's smart because at his age there would be too much public blow back to marry a 20 year old. There are limits to everything and at his age he missed the ideal window to marry a 20 year old woman. 17 years is still pretty good and I bet her n count is way lower than his so he still won in that he got an attractive woman 17 years younger than him who probably wasn't a whore in her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:44 AM
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kinda creepy that women he probably doesn't even recognize are gossiping about him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:40 AM
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Too small becomes a problem way sooner than too big. Unless a guy is like 9 inches he's not going to be too big. There's a reason why virtually none of the well endowed guys wish their dick was smaller while pretty much all the guys who are under 7" would make theirs bigger if they could. The well endowed guys are almost always fetishished and prioritized especially for casual sex. Women will settle for average guys and give them that line about how "average is good as long as he makes up for it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:38 AM
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based you deserve a chad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:30 AM
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positive like he's hung like a horse and rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:29 AM
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I mean if you're bald and ugly then yeah that will counteract the benefits of being tall but tall is always a good thing. Virtually every woman on the planet prefers tall but of course if you suck in every other category then tall on its own won't necessarily be enough
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:28 AM
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Didn't want the backlash probably. Prior to her he supposedly did sleep with lots of early 20s women so it's not like he's opposed to age gaps lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:25 AM
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IKR! They're expecting us to voluntarily put ourselves on a watch list all for a 25% chance of a $15 gift card lmao maybe if it was a 25% chance that one of the female research assistants will blow us it would be a more compelling offer
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:22 AM
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It can't be any more rare than guys who are 6'2, making 6 figures and packing 7 inches that so many women claim to be able land.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:14 AM
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hmm possibly if the ai takes over all virtual sex/porn then the only thing real women could offer to compete would be in person services
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:52 AM
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probably the 20 year old For most traits there's a good and bad end of the spectrum young is desirable old is undesirable tall is desirable short is undesirable rich is desirable poor is undesirable big dick is desirable small dick is undesirable it's no different than if you ask women if they'd rather fuck a guy who is 6'4 over a 5'8 guy they're all are going to pick the 6'4 guy ask women if they'd rather have a guy with a 7 inch dick or a 5 inch dick and theyll all say 7 ask them if they'd rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:31 AM
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I'm not saying women have to uplift/protect men I'm just saying you can't complain about men developing insecurities that you create and intentionally weaponize. I'm not seeing how your example is analogous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:22 AM
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The other user said "They like insulting things men cant change to hit on insecurities. " I mentioned fragile masculinity because women often laugh about masculinity being fragile regarding men feeling insecure about their height, income or dick size. I find it ironic to simultaneously judge and insult men on characteristics they have little control over while also calling the fragile for developing insecurities you helped create and intentionally poke at.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:33 PM
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Are you asking in good faith or are you just just being snarky and/or looking for a gotcha moment? If it's the latter I'd rather not waste time responding to you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:12 PM
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If men want non-promiscuous women, then stop engaging in promiscuomity yourselves. It doesn't play out like that. Dating for men is winner take all so if a guy is desirable enough to consistent fuck women without having to commit to them and hr wants a low bodycount women then he absolutely can have his cake and eat it too. I'm inexperienced and I have never heard women talk about inexperience in a possible light. Experienced women don't want inexperienced guys and neither do inexperienced women…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:21 PM
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oh boy a $15 gift card 😮
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:44 PM
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I think its just men are easier to satisfy. If anything attractive men have the advantage from a supply and demand perspective. The % of men that women consider attractive is way smaller than the % of women that men consider as attractive so attractive men are more rare. Just take height as an example. You draw the line at 5'9 so 50% of men are too short to be attractive and your standards are lenient compared to a lot of women who set it at 6ft+ It would be like if men said any woman under 5'4 …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:47 PM
1

Even the attractive men are not as picky as attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:20 PM
1

That most women find most men unattractive and prefer tall men with big dicks is a core foundation of most of their viewpoints. Everything else extends from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:20 PM
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You agree on all of their premises just not how they react to the premises.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:08 PM
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lol no they are not Women have way more standards and are much more picky than men on basically everything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:07 PM
1

Ok, so again you do actually agree quite a bit with red/black pill rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:06 PM
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Yes because from a supply & demand perspective its not possible for every woman to end up exclusively married to a 6ft guy with a 7+ inch dick but most women have had casual sex and flings with guys like that. Women just settle for what they can get for marriage which is why redpillers always argue its way more flattering for a woman to see you as hookup material than marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:03 PM
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If a below average overweight man was saying he wants a woman who is fit, attractive with a tight pussy and at least c cup, you and the women on incel tears would rake him over the coals and you know it. And yes women ARE mostly the same regarding their preferences. Some women may eventually settle for less but in terms of what traits they give preferential treatment to you pretty much all do give preferential treatment to tall guys with big dicks. There is virtually zero variance on womens pref…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:42 PM
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See so women were fine with it because he was hot. Men were weird about it probably because of jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:27 PM
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It doesn't matter. Women still prefer men more experienced than them even if the divorce risk is theoretically higher for those men. As an inexperienced guy Ive paid attention to how women talk about inexperience in men and its almost never in a positive light.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:22 PM
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Could say the same about age gap relationships. Very often that woman isnt complaining but other women will complain on behalf. Or another example when you see women posting on tiktok about cooking for their husband or being traditional very often other women will be offended on her behalf in the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:03 PM
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I think its mostly based on how hot and wealthy the guy is. If thr guy is successful and looks young for his age far fewer women will have an issue with it than if he's balding, overweight and mid
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:39 PM
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You can have whatever standards you want but it's disingenuous when yall gaslight incels by claiming women aren't as picky/superficial as incels think when in actuality they're pretty spot on with what they say. And furthermore you're 5'2 160lbs but insist on a guy who is tall, handsome and 7 inches. Again you can want whatever you want but it confirms what incels say about how even women who are below average expect and have access to guys who are above average. The male equivalent of you would…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:14 PM
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I already explained that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:55 PM
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Specifically their beliefs about what women find attractive and what their standards are yes you do agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:43 PM
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You only disagree with their attitudes not their premises about women and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:40 PM
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What good advice does BP give?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:32 PM
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It's also ironic to me because those are the same women who will often laugh about how "fragile masculinity is" but they are the first ones to jump at an opportunity to hit at a guys insecurities
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:26 PM
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If she's Asuan but lives in America and had a lot of casual sex she's probably not going to think 6 is big. The thing you really want to filter on is bodycount and whether she's had casual sex or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:12 PM
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Ok fair. If you take attraction out of it then yes you're probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:09 PM
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Seems antagonistic/hypocritical to make fun of someone's beliefs when you yourself essentially affirm most of what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:05 PM
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I dont get how you post on inceltears when your standards are like 100% in line with what incels say about women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:51 PM
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iirc the average height difference women prefer when polled is like 6 to 8 inches
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:50 PM
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There was a female streamer who recently admitted to keeping a spreadsheet of the men shes had sex with ranking them on size and performance. Also if a woman can't even remember her number then it's probably safe to assume its too high for the guys who care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:20 AM
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Is it because you want a MFM threesome?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:17 AM
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I don't think you need to justify your preferences. Women could fill a book with all their deal-breakers and rarely justify any of them beyond "that's what I want". Most of the women who judge men for having preferences based on their sexual history also judge men based on their sexual histories. They often don't want virgins men, men who have seen sex workers or men who have sexually experimented with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:35 PM
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They'll only find her gross if she's a virgin due to being ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:31 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:06 PM
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it's different datasets you're referring to OK Cupid data from the early 2000's. I'm talking about more recent data from Bumble, Hinge, Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:42 AM
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Is she attractive overall or just more attractive than him?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:36 AM
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More recent numbers show women swipe no on 95% of men. Men swipe yes on around 50% of women. https://thebolditalic.com/the-two-worlds-of-tinder-f1c34e800db4
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:35 AM
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What about him makes him ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:23 AM
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If most men are rated as unattractive and most women are rated as ok then of course it's going to show that men are messaging women more attractive than them based on hose different the distributions are. That's fine too, but they both show that men and women ideally want the best. Obviously everyone wants the best but I'm not agreeing that men and women are equally as picky of that's what you are tying to imply. Womens definition of "the best" is way more stringent than men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:21 AM
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also isn't your bf 6'5 ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:03 AM
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not hard to find them on the apps and even easier if you're in LA or NYC
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:01 AM
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Once she gets fat perhaps but I think in the beginning of marriage men have more attraction to their wives than women do to their husbands. It's repeatedly ben shown that men rate women's attractiveness according do a bell curve while women rate the vast majority of men as unattractive per their standards. So even if both sexes arguably settle, an average woman is going to be way less satisfied with an average man than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:00 AM
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Are you saying he views his wife as shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:54 AM
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I agree that face beats height and but most guys under 6ft are not going to have pretty boy caliber faces. And tall guys with pretty faces will still be women's top choice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:53 AM
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Sure but the wife will still be superior compared to what he's had before. Meanwhile he's a downgrade compared to the men his wife had access to for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:51 AM
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Not ideal but still way better than scenario 1 where she was more uninhibited for the ex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:48 AM
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If a man gets married he's not husband material to that woman? and what's your point with this comment? but those men wouldn't have chosen the women they're with either
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:46 AM
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I mean even caring about n count at all is viewed as odd to most women. If anything women tend to prefer men with higher n counts so a lot of things are just different between men and women. Women care very much about how tall men are and how much money they make, men don't care as much about those things in women. It would be so flattering that I'm the one who got her to break the streak. 100 girls and then I'm the first dude. I'd feel super lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:44 AM
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Most hookup material guys can also be husband material but husband material guys can't always be hookup material. If a guy is hot he can easily be both husband material and hookup material. Lots of guys who end up married would never have been chosen by their wives when she was in her hoe phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:38 AM
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yeah probably
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:35 AM
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They can get relationships but they get the sloppy seconds of the tall fuckboy guys
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:34 AM
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I think if a guy has an exceptional face he can have casual sex in spite of being under 6ft If he's under 6ft with an average faces he's probably not having casual sex unless he's going for short ugly girls
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:33 AM
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women only abandon the apps AFTER they've been blown out by a couple tall chads
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:30 AM
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girls don't count 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:24 AM
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I don't have an exact formula but I'd in theory compromise on n count vs how she treats me relative to exes. In the following hypothetical Girl A has n count of 1 but it was a 6'5 athlete and she had threesomes and fucked him like a pornstar, but now she wants me to wait a few months and pay for all the dates and then she only has vanilla sex with me Girl B n count of 10, made them all wait but I'm the first guy she wants to fuck immediately and she wants to do things in bed with me she never di…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:19 AM
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It's not only the women who make 6 figures who want that in a guy and I'd wager the vast majority of women swipe 6ft+ on the dating apps. Sure maybe most will eventually settle for a sub 6ft guy after they've hooked up with the tall guys on the apps but it's not much of a consolation for under 6ft guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:12 AM
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I just clicked on her profile and skimmed the most recent posts. I do that with most people, sometimes it gives me additional context, things to laugh about or just a warning that they aren't worth engaging with seriously. In this case it gave me context that she lost her virginity to a man whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:09 AM
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I've never known of a guy who is capable of having lots of casual sex who couldn't also get relationships very easily. On the flip side there are lots of men who can get relationships who wouldn't have ever been chosen for casual sex not even by their girlfriend. It's very clear that the casual sex standards are higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:56 AM

Women can have whatever standards they want. I'm 5'9 and I'd hate for a woman that's been passed around like a fucktoy by a bunch of 6ft+ men to lower her standards and settle for me only after she failed to get commitment from the men she gave her all for. She should keep chasing the 6ft men or die trying as far as I'm concerned. They’ll say things like “I only want the bare minimum.” “It’s so hard to meet a good man.” I agree that it's very disingenuous when they say that and that they should …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:51 AM
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There's always an underlying reason. Those reasons are often luck based but There's anyways a reason. I don't think there are any men that where unexplainable why they suck with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:47 AM
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lol, nice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:14 AM
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I think its location dependent. I'd imagine if a guy lives in LA it's probably not that rare to run into a girl with an onlyfans.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:07 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:06 AM
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are you in the 6 figure club now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:05 AM
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I don't see how that relates nor do I see why it would be hard to understand why watching porn would mean you have to be ok dating someone who does porn lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:01 AM
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I'd rather just ask about her thoughts on casual sex. A woman who can honestly say she's never had casual sex or been in a situationship probably doesn't have a low bodycount.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:59 AM
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I used to be adjusted to it but since I've been working from home for the last couple years it would probably be hard to go back to commuting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:52 AM
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and bodycount
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:50 AM
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Most women don't and I'm not convinced you do either. You posted that you lost your virginity to a man whore and feel special because he was desirable enough that he could have anyone but chose you. He doesn't sound like an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:49 AM
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Your comment sounds like it does when a man tries to convince women they shouldn't chase tall wealthy men over average men with average salaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:37 AM
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omg I just clicked on the sub and saw this title "Almost 8 years and no ring in sight" and then fucking lots it 🤣😂🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:43 AM
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Why is she okay with a penis that has been in another vagina but not a dildo Not sure. It seems inconsistent to me lol I mean it's not only a shower, a vagina cleans itself. I'd bet on the detergent and hot water doing a better job What if she had sex before but no one ever ejaculated in her? Preferable compared to a woman who has been ejaculated in but less desirable than a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:33 AM
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I don't think that's always the case. I think they post guys they haven't slept with yet and then the women on the forum just nitpick every little thing about him. I'm not outraged exactly, I just brought it up in response to the post about guys filling lawsuits against those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:13 AM
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what about with regard to housing prices?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:09 AM
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When you "dated around" and magically stopped starfishing were the men you dated more physically attractive than your first husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:08 AM
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worse from what context?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:04 AM
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I don't think women are only gossiping about the hot guys running through women. There's a lot of average guys they shit talk on the forums too. In fact I think they are probably more likely to shit talk the regular guys than they are to shit talk the attractive fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:03 AM
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I think you have to do it before hand. If you've already married a woman who settled for you then you already lost. If you identify that you're betabux material and accept women will only ever view you as the stable guy to settle down with after they've been ran through by hotter guys then you can try to maximize the transaction and aim for as hot of a woman as your money allows you to get. Either that or just never marry and make them a "forever girlfriend" and then when they dump you after get…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:00 AM
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I've seen people post screenshots of what it's like and it's not as noble as you make it out to be
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:55 PM
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I think its worth breaking it down by looks tiers. The typical man is never lusted after regardless of age so its neutral. He's just as unremarkable at 40 as he was at 20. The few men who qualify as physically attractive can make it last longer because the traits that make a man attractive are more rooted in bone structure which don't go away. For women being attractive is common but more temporary because it's rooted in youthfulness and soft tissue features like breats, fat tissues, skin textur…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:52 PM
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They're there because they are bitter about about prior experiences with men and want to post his information to other women with similar baggage to gossip and trash his appearance, profile ect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:48 PM
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The women are there out of spite too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:44 PM
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but a guy doing the same would not be a normy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:41 PM
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do you think the women on those forums are abnormal?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:36 PM
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I think its just women seek out the well endowed guys so guys with big dicks end up overrepresented in most women's sexual histories
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:36 PM
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What part is unclear?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:32 PM
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I'm just saying if women are going to normalize them posting mens dating app profiles on Facebook for other women to shit talk then I think men should do the same to them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:30 PM
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On a spectrum of 1 being hijab and 10 being a woman who is a nudist I'd prefer a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:27 PM
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lol, no she'll either cheat on him or deadbedroom him while shit talking him to her female friends about how he's not as attractive or endowed as the athletes she got passed around by in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:25 PM
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it's not imaginary women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:22 PM
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I'm taking about what women in general think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:21 PM
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those are the best kinds of rants
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:19 PM
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I think women tend to view anything under 5'10 as short
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:16 PM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:15 PM
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To the extent that they have the same # of members and activity?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:14 PM
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And my point is that rather than filing lawsuits or trying to get womens forums taken down the best reaction is to fight fire with fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:10 PM
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She'll say yes. I wanted to give an example where women might say no ie a used dildo. Even if it's been washed most women will view it as tainted. Similarly even if a woman showers, she can still be seen as tainted if other men have ejaculated in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:09 PM
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I could see there being demand for it in retaliation. If women are going to be posting pics of their dating app matches online for random women to shit talk and gossip over then men should do the same to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:07 PM
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The best solution to the "AreWeDatingTheSameGuy" forums is just for guys to create the gender flipped version and get them to match the popularity of the women's forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:00 PM
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There's a market for everything. My point is even if it's extensively cleaned most people are going to have reservations about buying one. They won't truly view it as clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:47 PM
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I'll pass lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:46 PM
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how so
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:45 PM
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I find it funny how women try to downplay size but somehow every woman claims to have fucked guys 7 inches or larger. And if you're going to go the girth route I could just adapt my original comment to "a woman who has fucked coke can dicks is going to be mentally ruined and never satisfied with normal dicks"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:44 PM
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In some instances they even have an advantage when there are quotas to fill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:07 PM
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lol you really are the Paris Hilton of PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:06 PM
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we got a model over here 😮
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:01 PM
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would you buy a pre-owned dildo? soap and water exist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:00 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:57 PM
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They'd find it less unsatisfying than an experienced woman. A woman who been banged out by 6'4 athletes with 8 inch dicks will be way less accepting of an average dude than a virgin would be. Obviously the 5'2 guys with micro penises are screwed regardless tho
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:56 PM
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Most of the popular male tiktokers are attractive too. Good looks pay well in general. Arguably being good looking is the best blessing you can have male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:01 PM
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I somehow doubt women have the same reaction when rejected by a tall guy. It's the same with treatment. If a short guy treats a woman badly in a relationship Ive seen them say "and after that I never dated another short guy and have been much happier" However if a tall guy mistreats them they are more than happy to give tall guys a chance again. If a short guy is an asshole it's "short man syndrome. If a tall guy is an asshole, its just a fluke.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:49 PM
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It's enough of a discrepancy that it indicates that they probably are more often than not. There's no shot that if the stat was men initiate divorce 70% of the time that they'd be given the same charitability than women are right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:45 PM
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It's the same if a guy marries a younger more attractive woman and then she takes him for everything he has. How many women are going to be sympathetic to his complaints?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:34 PM
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If what you said is true then women wouldn't have preferences on size at all because a finger is good enough but in actuality most women will say they don't want under 6" and that 7+ feels better. I've even seen women on reddit say once they had a big one they didnt want to go back
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:29 PM

It's mentally not physically. The guy won't notice a difference in tighness but she'll definitely notice the difference in size between an average dick and one the size of her forearm lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:22 PM
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Men cheat slightly more but no where near enough to explain the 70/30 split for who initiates divorces
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:20 PM

After she's been sexually ruined for normal sized guys. Interesting. Normally the guys with the huge dicks get around more. Thats why it's so common for women to have an ex with a huge dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:17 PM

Not without valid reasons. Even if they don't know it's still an L for the guys who get her after. Let me guess, does that ex with the huge dick happen to be a fuckboy that has slept with lots of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:08 PM

damn rip to your future boyfriends ⎧ᴿᴵᴾ⎫◟◟◟◟◟◟◟◟ ❀◟(ó ̯ ò, )
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:01 PM

omg that's brutal what was your breaking point that got you to finally end it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:57 PM
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and women will swear that they are judged by harsher beauty standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:06 PM
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Do you think the men who are 6s are having casual sex with fellow sixes or are they having to fuck down to get casual play?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:59 PM
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I'm always skeptical whenever a woman talks about mid men doing well especially since women have been shown to rate most mens appearances as being unattractive. So a mid man by women's standards is probably above average objective standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:46 PM
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got it yeah I'd rather have a harem
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:00 AM
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Sure but the point remains, on the apps most women are being passed around by a small pool of exceptionally attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:58 AM
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I agree with the root message not necessarily the specific ratio. So I believe that women do rate most men as physically unattractive and that the distribution of casual sex is probably more skewed for men than for women. Is it exactly 80/20 perhaps not but I also don't think it's 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:55 AM
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oooh
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:50 AM
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I don't think there's a difference. All heights of women prefer tall men it just stands out more when short women prefer them too because short men deluded themselves into thinking short women would be different
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:41 AM
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I thought a harem meant they are exclusive to me why are there "brother husbands" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:40 AM
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Do the guys you know skew towards being fuckboys? Regardless, if what you're saying is true that it's the norm to have sex early on and women don't make certain guys wait then my point I was making to the other commenter still stands. Why would a guy want to wait and pay for dates if the norm is that women put out early without expecting commitment first.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:25 PM
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From my perspective, men have made it very clear that they don't love commitment and would prefer to go without it and instead have NSA sex with women with as little financial expense on their part as possible. Well part of it is that women divide guys into two categories, guys they are willing to have NSA sex with and guys who they are only willing to have sex with after commitment and paying for dates. It kind of cheapens things and makes guys not want to be in that second category.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:25 PM
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I think it either helps or at least doesnt hurt. Growing up, the guys who were bullies got the most girls. So either it was a turn on for the girls or the positives were enough that they overlooked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:20 PM
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The median salary for women is not over 60k so if that's mediocre then most women are mediocre
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:16 PM
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you should just use ya'll to eliminate confusion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:27 PM

I'd pay for her to get laser hair removal
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:54 PM
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Whatever number I give you, you’re not going to be happy with. See! More reason to just tell me the number since I'll be unhappy regardless. Besides, since when do you really care about what I think? 😂 Have we spoken before?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:52 PM
4

Why even bring up the concept of a good salary if you're unwilling to elaborate on what you define it as
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:55 PM
1

let me guess 250k?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:28 PM
3

what do you consider the minimum for a "good salary"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:21 PM
7

Women are mediocre too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:21 PM
1

Your opinions are the same type of ones that are expressed on this sub and the same type of opinions that the AHS mods would view as hateful
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:26 PM
3

I think the standards for a man's face to be considered as attractive are just higher so the men's whose faces are attractive will have better faces than the women with attractive faces because they had to pass a higher threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:50 PM
1

That doesn't make sense tho. You seem to have a lot of the same redpill beliefs that are expressed here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:41 PM
3

So the guys with six packs are being taken off the market by fat women? Sounds great to me. Less competition for the non-fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:35 PM
1

Have the AHS mods looked through your comment history? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:31 PM
2

Who the fuck are you to be making these demands?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:57 PM
7

Its not mainstream enough if the OP from that post still went through with marrying her
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 04:45 PM
8

What's the problem? If you're going to be used for money why not get a better deal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 04:39 PM
6

I think another factor is just that beauty standards for women allow for more fat than for men. A woman can be petite, fit, skinny fat or curvy and be considered attractive but a man's body is mainly inly attractive if he's fit. Like women here have said a man wanting a non-fat woman is expecting an above average women. However we know those women are not going to view a non-fat man as being above average. Just being normal weight is not enough to be above average as a man. You need to be fit an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:57 PM
8

do women feel silly calling themselves kweens, boss babes, and bad bitches
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:23 PM
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Its more that their lived experience has shown them they've had no chance with women and then red pill validates and offers explanations/strategies for their situation. Red/Black pill are the only groups that actually listen to men. The mainstream just shits on them and labels any man that voices any frustration over dating as an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:11 PM
7

if youre attractive enough you can date and sleep with women without spending any money on them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 03:45 PM
7

It helps explain those stats where most men under 30 are single while most women are not. They absolutely are being tossed around by the same guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 03:43 PM
5

Both face a stigma but obviously it gets worse with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 03:28 PM
6

They are mostly saying that a guy who admits to being a virgin is a red flag and to be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 03:25 PM
1

It just seems one sided if hes hotter, makes more money and cooks for her. She's definitely getting the better end of that deal is all I'm saying. Also some people are with their partners for who they are not because of the services they... lol women absolutely judge men based on what they are getting out of him financially and otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:55 PM
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This makes sense and is why women are more likely to give promiscuous men a pass. You're getting a guy who is above average desirability and is giving you what women find difficult to get from men (commitment and exclusivity. All the other women just got sex which women view as "low value and abundant" while you get what the other women wanted but failed to get. It doesn't work in reverse tho. A promiscuous woman who then turns around and makes the husband guy wait for sex and lay for dates is g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:33 PM
1

It wouldn't make a difference because it's about the overall difficulty on a population level not on an individual basis. Secondly the difficulty aspect is being taken too litterally. The difficulty isn't the direct cause of why men view promiscuous women worse
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:25 PM
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Isnt that op's point? He's saying most women view virgin men as weird and undatable so those guys are better off lying about their experience and getting practice girlfriends to catch up. Meanwhile women are like "no be honest so we can reject you mkre easily and you can stay in your current predicament indefinitely like we want you to"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:21 PM
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Depends on what you mean by promiscuous. I dont think most women are wracking up 20+ body counts. However what happens is even the women with low to average bodycounts still have casual sex on a per exception basis and when they make those exceptions they are generally doing it for the same type of guys every other woman is making exceptions for. So a woman might have a bodycount of 5 where 1 was a fwbs but that fwbs was probably a chad or fuckboy or athlete.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:17 PM
3

height has a normal distribution so around half will be under the average
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:07 PM
1

If he's hot, a breadwinner and cooks for the girl then what exactly is he getting out of the arrangement?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:04 PM
1

you ever going to come back to the server?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:07 AM
1

?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:44 PM
1

low n tattoo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:10 AM
1

are we talking about the same thing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:27 PM
1

lmao if the genders were reversed and a woman left her by for his hotter friend you'd cheer it on
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:10 PM
1

Actually that pretty accurately describes me. I'm in favor of equal rights, access to abortion ect but I do tend to view them as shallow cunts lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:17 PM
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It's not just exclusive to short guys tbh. Even most average height men will end up with women who had their backs blown out by 6ft+ guys. Like if you were to poll most women youll find that pretty much all of them have had at least one fling or fuckbuddy that was over 6ft and hung like a pornstar. It's not that every woman is sleeping with 100s of men, it's that even the women that only have casual sex on a per exception basis are making those exceptions for the same type of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:41 PM
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I think we'll have genetic engineering and/or better cosmetic surgery so that the diversity in physical attractiveness becomes a lot less pronounced than it is now. Every guy will be 6'2+ with a perfect hairline, broad shoulders and 8" dick like women want and then personality will take the spotlight of importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:22 PM
1

I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:05 PM
1

you say that now oh that's plenty young enough for most guys here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:12 PM
1

But you're forgetting that you'll be pairbonded to the auction winner afterwards so it's a 2 for 1 deal. How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:26 PM
2

Obviously there's exceptions but overall that's probably accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:24 AM
4

is it by being the highest bidder on your auction?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:58 AM
1

I'd prefer a centrist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:56 AM
2

instead of droping napalm on our enemies we should have been raining women's tears on the battlefield
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:37 AM
4

I'd get canceled for cultural appropriation if I got that style
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:18 AM
1

do we really need to be dunked on more than we already have been?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:39 AM
1

That's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:33 AM
1

Oh lol I should have known it was an attempt to dunk on incels. But regardless I agree vr or sexbots won't truely alleviate the pain of being alone, unwanted and sexless. It's just an additional distraction /c*ping mechanism
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:22 AM
1

same concept applies to how quickly women have sex with different guys
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:12 AM
1

So your view is that VR should be more popular than sexbots?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:07 AM
1

I suppose but they haven't done that yet as far as I'm aware. What's the point you're trying to make just that vr > chatbot?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:04 AM
1

more dynamic conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:13 AM
1

oof, rookie mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:11 AM
2

the c-word?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:40 AM
2

That would be a deal-breaker I think. It's actually worse than bodycount. Like If I had to choose between a girl with n count of 8 who isn't firends with any of her exes and a girl with n count of 3 who is close with one or mor of them then I'd prefer the first girl. The past isn't actually in the past if both me and my girlfriend regularly see/hang out with men she's had sex with in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:48 AM

lmao your post history shows you posting on r/onlineaffairs and youre critizing people for having boundaries/reservations about a partner being close to their exes > I’ve been waiting for you. Desiring. I met too young, and settled too early. But I don’t want to settle anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:40 AM
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It said 1 inch of height so 6ft to 5'11 not 6ft to 5'1 And passing through 36% of mens filters is still probably higher than the match rate for any race of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:23 AM
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Some people's eyes could be more sensitive. Also could be you experience more of the emptiness side of depression but not as much of the sadness/emotional aches. The latter can lead to crying more than the former imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:20 AM

My guess is she would think dating an average guy would be dating down
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:09 AM

I said generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:30 AM

Generally if the man is going to like you more than you like him you'd be dating down in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:18 AM

I'd be pretty happy just to have a non overweight girl who hasn't had casual sex with chad and likes to play videos 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:28 AM

I sometimes forget yall are on the sub still
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:26 AM

Probably should listen. It only becomes harder to make friends the older you get so enjoy your youth while you still have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:24 AM

my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:19 AM

That's the highest?? I could have sworn it was at 1.5 billion once
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:06 AM

I think they hate her largely because of her fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:00 AM

Can confirm it sucks. If my mom wasn't still alive I probably would have ended it years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:59 AM

I think it would level out and height would just cease to be a factor. Like at a certain point nature comes in where being passed a certain height starts to have health impacts. I think we'd mostly level out at 6'4 or 6'5
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:57 AM
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Makes sense. Just like a lot of men would rather be the guy women want to fuck immediately and are sexually uninhibited with vs the guy who was to wait and pay to take her on dates first.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:35 AM
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Yeah Obviously there needs to be some base level of attraction but beyond that yeah I'd give leeway to a virgin woman on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:29 AM
1

West Elm Caleb?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:39 PM
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The only problem is it's not easy to find them. If we could just look at a woman and be able to see her bodycount like a physical trait I think way more guys would select on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:50 PM
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exactly they're so catty and condescending
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:24 AM
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same but in addition to that feel like I'm less masculine for it too since men are expected to be strong and unphazed by their environment
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:15 AM
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lol can relate but with stable diffusion
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:12 AM
1

do they ever actually kill the specific people that bullied them? it seems like it's always just random people that get killed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:31 AM
1

Learn something new every day lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:30 AM
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how does that even work, did he weld a dildo on to the end of his chair and just move it back and forth with the joystick
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 01:02 AM
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I think they can be attractive but they also make me think she probably sleeps around
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 12:58 AM
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I think maybe if they manage to land a guy who is more attractive/alpha than the guys she got ran through by.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 12:13 AM
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I remember being in elementary school at recess and we'd stomp in the slush with our boots good times
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:13 PM
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iirc it's not as good of an option for people with blond hair or dark skin
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:09 PM
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a lot just trim
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:09 PM
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combo of snow and rain
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:07 PM
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So would he have also met your casual sex standards if you met him back then? As was mine. If it's true that the most desirable men pair off with promiscous women why wouldn't that be good for the guys who are not interested in promiscous women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:58 PM
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By how much were you more promiscuous? Is he similar in terms of physical appearance to the guys you did have casual sex with? You say that as if your original comment wasn't also backhanded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:52 PM

Well firstly do they actually know your past? There's a difference between accepting a girls past because he doesn't know it and accepting it because he knows and genuinely doesn't care. Secondly, how promiscuous were you relative to him? If your count is 20 and his is 100 you're still modest relative to him. Thirdly I genuinely think it's great if the most desirable men are going for the promiscuous women as that reduces the competition for the non promiscuous woman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:17 AM

It's possible that expectations have risen with social media but I also think it's accurate that salaries have not increased proportional to the increase in housing costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:43 AM

Idk I just thought they would have heard through the grape vine that straights don't fuck as much :/ Yeah gays are a peek into how great things could have been 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:31 AM

I can get the feeling of satisfaction of earning success financially but I don't see the appeal as much for dating. I'd much rather be a natural at it. Even in movies, anime ect I've always found the gifted prodigy like characters more enviable than than ones that take forever to build themselves up and sometimes still fall short of the gifted ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:29 AM

I feel this community is a valuable resource 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:24 AM

Do you actually believe this ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:21 AM

He really assumed straights and lesbians were having 10+ new partners a week and regular orgies. Are they really that in the dark about what it's like for heterosexuals? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:20 AM

your clit will turn into a micro penis
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:18 AM

misogyny That one always makes me chuckle. Now to be clear I don't think all ugly guys are nice and all hot guys are assholes but I think the idea that misogyny will ever prevent a guy from getting laid is equally as retarded. Whether or not you are nice has zero correlation with sexual success. If you are hot and extroverted you will be able to fuck lots of women regardless of whether you are misogynistic and if you are not hot and not extroverted you will not fuck lots of women even if you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:16 AM

That one hits deep. Like I know arguing with the people here is a waste of time and bad for my emotional health. I don't think I have ever come away from arguing with a ppd woman and thought "gee I'm glad I spent the last 10+ minutes arguing her and have a better outlook on life as a result" However, in spite of how logically I recognize these realities I still keep coming back for more. There's definitely something wrong with me. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:12 AM

I haven't gotten bored of jerking off so assuming actual sex is at least as good or better then I can't imagine it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:09 AM

are we really not allowed to say Islam is the most batshit crazy religion because it very clearly is it's like whenever another religion has some stupid aspect to it Islam is like "hold my beer we can be even more psychotic than that"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:16 AM

Lmao at his PR disclaimer at the bottom Also, this does not in any way mean to paint Islam or muslims in a bad light. Islam is a beautiful and amazing religion that everyone should look into
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:15 AM

I agree with a lot of this actually but with a couple adjustments... I don't think women are actually sexually attracted to those level 7 money men. Very few men will ever get that level of money There's also a lower looks threshold where if a man falls beneath it nothing else will make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:03 AM

damn straight you tell em it's leviosa not leviosaaa
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:58 AM

did you feel dirty typing that on a smartphone?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:56 AM

neither I want the ability to plug our consciousness into a virtual reality that feels lifelike and live whatever lives we want
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:26 AM

in a way it's not as strict in the sense that every woman is 19 at one point so he prefers a trait that every woman has had meanwhile women prefer traits that most men will never posess so who is really the shallow one? Poor aceofspadegymbro being attacked unwarranted
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:40 AM

maybe both women have 6 ft 6 figures 6 inches. men have 19 yo, 19bmi, 19" cup circumference
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:35 AM

There's a woman here who said she used a red solo cup as her profile pic and still got a lot of matches. So technically women don't even need a face to get matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:24 AM

similarly women want a man with experience but you can't gain experience if women don't want to fuck inexperienced guys women think it's hypocritical for experienced men to want inexperienced women but if an inexperienced man wants an inexperienced woman then they say "lol why would an inexperienced woman want to lose it to a guy who doesn't know what he's doing 🤣🤣🤣🤡💅🏿"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:48 AM

I never thought looks didn't matter but I did used to think women evaluated it similar to men. I didn't think they were as picky as they are or that they found so few men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:42 AM

lol you don't actually believe that The swipe data is just an aggregate of how often each gender swipes left vs right. It doesn’t have the reason. However, at the time of swiping you aren’t really going to know how interesting or boring they are. Additionally ok cupid did try to answer that by comparing bio text vs picture attractiveness to see which better predicted matches and their summary was something to the effect of "your looks are worth that fabled thousand words while your actually word…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:39 AM

toast
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:33 AM

I'm referring to https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/format:webp/1*s8j1k7YlKN8Bqbw5oTQdPw.png
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:32 AM

Nah they just dont imitate it properly. If they did there would be less complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:28 AM

hyper chadflation we need to tighten the interest rates on chad cock immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:23 AM

I said harshER. There's definitely a wider range that can be desired for women than for men on most traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:22 AM

damn boring and ugly I can't catch a break 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:21 AM

atlas probably agrees with that for her
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:18 AM

Lol the specific number isn't important the point is they by their own admission and as shown in swipe data find most men physically unattractive 10 vs 15 vs 20% doesn’t substantially change things here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:18 AM

I'll bid $21
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:16 AM

They only prioritize it for casual sex and gaslight men about how the beauty standards for women are harsher than for men despite them finding less than 10% of men physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:14 AM

🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:49 PM

she killed it by continuing to cheat on us with any server or forum that spreads its channels open for her 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:34 PM

😭
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:30 PM

rare to see you round these parts
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:28 PM

What's the SMV match for a virgin man with excessive iron who doesn't leave the house and has a beanie baby and funko collection? asking for a friend
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:26 PM
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Lol it's not that crazy I love looking into peoples post history before responding. It gives me context on if they are a troll, what they think, if they are a furry ect. Nothings wrong with me wanting a passionate lover who will go hard and deep inside me, because aye! I'm just a human who likes sex, just like a lot other humans. I didn't say it's wrong. I'm just saying a guys dick size does impact how good women will perceive the sex as being while for women there is no equivalent. It's easier …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:23 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:11 PM
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Isn't it the norm for women to care about that especially for a hookup. Even in your recent post history you mention only being able to come if the guy can go deep enough. My point is just its an additional thing men are judged on that women are not in determining whether sex is good. Regarding men being lazy, I presuming you're talking about guys not doing oral? If so I think part of that is for casual encounters there's no exclusivity so there's no garantee a different guy hadn't cum in her re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:05 PM

those are basic af I'd be more interested if they were beanie babies or aurora
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 10:54 PM

I liked Pizza huts cheese stuffed crust pizza but I like dominoes think crust. Pizza Hut never delivered to me so I've had dominoes way more than Pizza Hut. Neither compare to the non-chain local pizzerias
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 10:50 PM
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It's not necessarily that men are selfish it's that women require a lot more in order to deem the encounter good. The level of looks, dick size, skill in bed ect that is expected of men for women to deem the encounter good is just all around higher than what men expect from women. Arguably men already put in more effort into the sexual encounter than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 10:44 PM
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I'm talking about most men not just the attractive ones that have lots of sex. Do you think the typical guy in his 20s is more confident than the typical woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 10:17 PM
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Do you think men are physically and sexually confident in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:51 PM
1

I don't get it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:28 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:27 PM
4

most cut and Jubilee videos do confirm a lot of red/blackpill talking points
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:17 PM
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I guess but this is also why guys often feel resentment over the paying for dates. Like it's insult to injury if you're paying for dates meanwhile she's dating and fucking other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:15 PM
3

yes especially if didn't fuck me too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:12 PM
1

Do you think this same logic applies to women ie 25 year old women are significantly better in bed than 30 year old women? and fit women > non fit women in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:07 PM
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I still find it hard to believe those 2 extra years make that significant of a difference that the women would be able to accurately guess the age range at above 50% accuracy. Is your assumption that the 25 year olds are all built like athletes and the 32 year olds are all out of shape?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 08:53 PM
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gently...but if you want access to what is probably the body part that sticks out the most on me (my ass), you need inches. So the majority of men who approach me in the first place are well endowed men. Lol, that does make sense from a structural standpoint for sure. I'm with right now and he's 6'2. However, he's Scandinavian and tells me that he's considered short/average where he's from. Even in the Netherlands I think the average is 5'11.5 so he'd still be above average. I know you want thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 08:41 PM
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It's also funny cause they'll complain its wrong for an experienced guy to want a less experienced woman but when an inexperienced guy wants an inexperienced woman then they say inexperienced women want men with experience
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:00 PM
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I think it depends on the age. An early 20s guy who is inexperienced could still realistically get an early 20s woman who is also inexperienced. An older inexperienced guy is probably better doing what you said and gaining experience with more experienced women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:36 PM
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Anyone who goes against the hivemind gets piled on or made fun of for their preferences. can you elaborate on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:11 PM
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The issues come in when they believe this then gives them the right to be awful and disparaging about anyone who doesn't fit their ideal. I mean thats a fair criticism but I also don't think that's a gender specific thing. I see women do it to men all the time as well especially on this sub. They will also insult and mock undesirable men that want a conventionally desirable women just as men mock the conventionally undesirable women that expect desirable men. (We can even see it on this thread).…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:09 PM
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Perhaps but the anatomy/biology results in higher requirements for the encounter to meet the good threshold
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:49 PM
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Would you say men are more in need of encouragement if that's the idea they push
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:26 PM
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Is it supposed to be surprising that the gender with the higher standards and expectations is satisfied less often
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:22 PM
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It's not the norm but it's not incredibly rare either. Keep in mind I'm referring to early 30s not 40s plus. I agree that 40+ men are going to have a much harder time. You've claimed you're a plus-sized woman with an extensive sexual past that bagged a tall big dicked man who significantly outearns you and encourage women they too can beat the odds and do the same. Why can't men too try to beat the odds and end up with women with conventionally desirable traits. Also - going for dick for the sak…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:12 PM
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When I say short term preferences, that is AF, and long term is BB. The point I want to make is that those are not opposing categories so much as they are groups of traits. I agree that the ideal is a man who scores high in both long and short-term traits. What happens tho is for short-term women are more willing to compromise on the comfort traits in favor of raw attraction and long-term they are more willing to compromise on the raw attraction in favor of the comfort traits. No woman prefers t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:00 PM
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Ok fair, I agree 40+ is a bit too old but I disagree that most interpret a bit on the older side the same. Lot of the women here think even early 30s is too old. Do you encourage men to aim high too?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:56 PM
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As do women with regards their laundry list of standards. If women can decide they'd rather be single than settle for a non 6ft 6 figure earning big dick chad who litterally every other woman on the planet also wants then men too can set their standards high and stay single if they are not met.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:29 PM

who?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:37 AM

lol I'm going to need a miracle
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:57 AM

He looks tall and has a friendly smile
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:56 AM

ah that's cool congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:54 AM

🤬
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:54 AM

Were the others from the server local too or was it just coincidence that you and him were nearby
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:53 AM

Did you and your guy live close to eachother?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:51 AM

lower taxes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:48 AM

How big was the discord server?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:47 AM
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You're ignoring the part where I said "I'm not arguing he should ignore women his own age". I'm just saying it benefits him to include younger women IN ADDITION TO women his own age. there aren’t that many young looking millennials who are single and don’t have a body count below 30. Yes I think that the women over 30 with low bodycounts will generally be off the market already.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:46 AM
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Not being a catch doesn't stop undesirable women from having high standards. The women in your community are prime examples of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:57 AM
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Doesn't need most just needs one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:44 AM
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How is that condemning? All I said was that most attractive women with a low bodycount over 30 will already be in relationships so if a guy wants one he will need to also look at younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:43 AM
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Saggy nuts lol How old are you thinking here? Here you seem to be advocating for women to date older just not more than 10 years. This allows for the possibility than an early 30s man can get an early to mid 20s woman who is closer to him in experience. If you're thinking of an inexperienced 40+ guy then I agree those guys are fucked. If you are a young woman and want a serious relationship and a family - aim for an older man. No more than 10 years. This goes for women of all ages. After your 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:03 AM
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That would require him to be able to have casual sex which women are typically pickier about. Also the % of women his age who are single and open to casual sex is likely smaller than the % of younger women who are single and open to casual sex. So even with the "try to gain experience to catch up" strat it still be limited by his ability to attract a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:54 PM
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It's the combination, looks young, still single, hasn't slept around. That's going to be a very narrow pool to find. I'm not arguing men should ignore women his age just that he's making it a lot harder if he restricts himself to only looking for women his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:50 PM
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I disagree and even if I accepted that premise, is your logic basically two wrongs make it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:42 PM
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The likelihood of a woman his age looking young still being single and not having a high bodycount is slim to none.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:41 PM
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So most women care about dicks more than looks and wealth? When I was single and looking for a great lay for the sake of it, a young, hot and fit 27 year old was just the ticket, each time and every time. so you condemn men going for younger women while admitting you yourself sought out younger men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:59 PM
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I don't think see how it's wrong or immoral. A lot of it really just comes down to looks. If he looks young he should be able to get a younger woman. If he's heavily balding and took poor care of his skin that's the real driver of the ick towards age gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:49 PM
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I could see socialism working if we get to the point where most everything is automated by machines and ai. Prior to that I can't conceptualize it working.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 09:40 PM
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I'm not unto overweight women so from that perspective I guess I want above average but I'm not super picky about face or boob size. I also don't think a hot woman would be a good match for me. I think things work out better when couples are relatively looksmatched. Significant differences usually lead to resentment and infidelity. A hot woman who is used to dating 6'2 model/athlete looking guys and then marries an average guy is just a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 05:46 PM
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I know men lower their standards for casual sex so the inverse to that is that women are able to be more picky when selecting a casual sex parter. I have even seen women admit that "of course for casual sex the standards on looks are higher. If I just want sex he needs to be super hot". It makes sense that the level of attractiveness required for a woman to want sex with a guy who she doesn't know well and who isn't going to commit or invest in her is going to be higher. Of course there will be …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:32 AM
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It's gained popularity because increased loneliness Tiktok had it easy for Andrew tate to spread but also has a lot of female creators who say things that confirm the stuff red and blackpillers say
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:21 AM
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Height is just an easy example because of how objective it is. I agree that most women want a guy with broad shoulders and a good face in addition to height. It's holistic so guys need to pass a certain threshold on every trait. Being tall with an meh face cancels out just like having a great face but being 5'4 would.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:38 PM
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Ok sort of but I would phrase it differently. It's more jealous that they were able to receive the sexual treatment and experiences from her that we are not hot enough to elicit I'm her. For him to be worth having sex with he just had to exist. For us to be worth having sex with we need to check off all these additional boxes (Need to outearn her, need to pay for dates, need to be willing to wait weeks or months for sex ect). And then on top of that knowing that by conventional standards of phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:53 PM
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No that's not what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:27 PM
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I think there are likely ups and downs. Usually the guy is hot and fun so women enjoy it from that angle, they just don't enjoy the aftermath.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:16 PM
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The men who are attractive and extroverted enough to pass womens casual sex standards get to enjoy having sex with the future wives of less desirable men while the women are in their early 20s. What other men might have to earn via paying for dates, waiting and investing emotional energy they get freely offered to them on a silver platter. It obviously doesn't benefit all men but the ones who have the desire for it and the requisite traits to act upon those desires definitely benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:15 PM
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It's not necessarily about deserve or not deserve. People get whatever they get and typically women have more leverage so if a woman wants to do what you said she'll probably be successful at it. I just think it's a raw deal for the guy meanwhile the woman effectively gets to have her cake and eat it to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:10 PM
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I feel the same. Also I do believe in assortive mating in that whenever there's a big looks discrepancy there's usually more transactional element to the relationship and its more prone to fail. The 7/10 woman typically dates 7/10 men and can probably get casual sex from 8s and 9s. Since I'm not above a 7 it just wouldn't work out from that perspective anyways. That being said I don't think there's a strong correlation between a womans looks and her bodycount. An average and even below average l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:07 PM
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my hypothesis is that much of that relates to an increase in the population at low wealth levels, for whom the legal benefits of marriage are less likely to feel relevant. Could you elaborate on that? I could be mistaken but I thought I read that not getting married hurts the lower class more than the upperclass and that getting married is one of the best ways for them to help their offspring rise to higher levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:36 AM
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Not only is your height compared to hers such that you need to be sufficiently taller than her you also have to be taller than the other men in her pool. I really don't think men do that. We don't just unamously prefer whatever the boob equivalent of 6'5 is and we aren't going to think the biggest boobed woman in the room is inherently the most attractive/feminine. So much of male beauty standards seem to just revole around bigger is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:29 AM
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It mainly makes us mad that they don't apply that advice consistently. If a woman stuck with that advice from the get go I applaud it. If they only apply it AFTER they've offered themselves up freely and easily to fuckboys, jocks and frat boys then it's less admirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:40 AM

There are ppd discord servers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 12:25 AM
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or a short guy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:11 PM

You'd have better luck predicting the winning lottery numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:58 PM
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I can't help but think that sounds kinda like a BB dynamic where he deviates significantly from the types of men you'd be attracted to in a short-term perspective but because he's ambition and successful you married him. Not getting married is always available option, but so is digging into where that insecurity comes from. What is there to dig into? Isn't it fairly obvious and logical how that dynamic would lead to feelings of insecurity? Both among men and women the people who are having the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:48 PM
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If we're talking pure intelligence I'd think the subject matters more than the level of educational attainment. For example I'd suspect someone with just a Bachelors in engineering or physics is more intelligent than someone with a Masters in Business or Marketing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:10 PM
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I don't think intelligence has ever mattered for casual sex. What's changed is that since we marry later there's now a longer casual dating phase before people pair off. So it takes longer before intelligence matters and really intelligence only benefits you in long-term dating to the extent it has made you financially stable. If you're MENSA but haven't done fuckall with it and have an average job it's not going to do you any favors for long-term dating either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:05 PM
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I am also not completely my partners "type" and we jave had more than a couple of heartfelt conversations about how its not a great feeling Which of you deviates further from their partners type? just because youre not top 20% in looks as a guy doesnt mean youre going to be forever alone. No, but being the "husband material guy" still doesn't sound that great. And it always seems like the caricature of the men women choose for casual flings is the stereotypical tall, fit, big dick ,sharp jawline…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:53 PM
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I'd still say for men its ideal if he can meet both her initial attraction standards and the long-term ones. Meeting only the longterm ones doesn't feel great especially if she did have casual sex in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:44 PM
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For casual sex did you tend to stick more closely to your type?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:54 AM

if shes fucking other guys just dont kiss her or go down on her
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:30 AM

There's less commitment and less expectations with the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:25 AM
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I don't think there's anything preventing there being dating content where women give opinions that don't conform to manosphere content. And it's not even just manosphere content, even female content creators on tiktok or women on ppd or even women in my social circles often confirm a lot of the manosphere talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:23 AM

So you prefer bear mode guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:44 AM
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Where's the content about women who are not like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:43 AM

Depends on how coarse/desnse the hair is. So you'd prefer they just let it grow?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:41 AM

Could be prefernce. I still shave it and trim my other body hair even though I'm an incel and no one's seeing me naked. Just feels cleaner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:40 AM

maybe he had a small dick
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:36 AM

Why shouldn't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:29 AM
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The stat was "not looking". That's not the same as "never had". And it just doesn’t make sense. I'm not saying every woman has slept with the football team but this claim that most women have never had casual sex or sent nudes is equally as far-fetched to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:56 PM
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Not looking for casual sex != hasn't had casual sex. It's a common trope among guys who have a lot of casual sex on the apps that most of the girls with "no hookups" in their bios ended up putting out quick
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:35 PM

Do women not complain about men during girl talk and say stuff they wouldn't say to the guys face. Women are notorious for gossiping to their friends even about their own partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:12 PM
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That still seems crazy low to me. However wouldn't that imply that the women who DO use apps are outliers and disproportionately more likely to be the type of woman who has had casual sex and sent nudes so back to my point if I'm talking to a woman off a dating app my original assumptions are likely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:10 PM

I think it really just boils down to women viewing most men as physically unattractive and the apps being picture focused. Then it just becomes cause and effect/ supply and demand. The few guys that women find attractive get a lot of matches. The ones who want relationships are taken off the market quickly leaving the attractive guys that just want to fuck around and all the men that women are not attracted to. Then the women bitch about being used for sex and leave the apps further skewing the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:04 PM

it also wouldn’t be among their most commonly listed fetishes/fantasies
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:00 PM

is this a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:00 PM
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The overall is brought down by the 40+ age demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:58 PM

I don't think any future Spider-Man movie will top William Defoe's green goblin
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:52 PM
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Where are you getting that only 30% have ever used apps? And aren't there also stats showing online is the most common method that new relationships originate from?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:49 PM
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A guy that is tall not balding and successful is unlikely to be a late bloomer therefore like we said the late bloomer women see the late bloomer men as not up to their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:47 PM

do you say the same about women who think any man that isn't willing to pay for the first date doesn't truly want her and that if he did he would pay? Is that her own personal insecurities/assumptions too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:46 PM

What percent of single women(25+) do you think have never sent nudes outside of a relationship and never had casual sex off a dating app?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:39 PM

I think more often then not it does. These rules/restrictions are disproportionately applied to men that are mid or under while the guys women actually are attracted to don't get made to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:32 PM

Its why I have zero sympathy for the ones who do manage to fuck up their lives and fail. It's like they had over a decade on easy mode with cheats enabled and still managed to fuck things up, wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:30 PM

Most women have so I can reasonably assume any woman I'm talking to has had at least one prior sexual partner where she made herself sexually available to him really early one. Of course there might be the exception here and there but like 9 times out if 10 it will be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:24 PM

Still better than being a guy where there's no point where we have the advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:22 PM

ikr they can even put a countdown on it accurate within 5 minutes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:21 PM

If shes done it before for other hotter men then yes it is indicative of that. Sorry but if a woman will send nudes and/or fuck a guy off an app she just met but then with me it's like "bandit I'm not really sure we're a good match I need you to sell me on yourself more" then yeah she's definitely not as into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:19 PM
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But even from the womanshe perspective isn't it just mutual exchange? Like for me to think I'm using someone I would have to think I'm getting the better end of the arrangement to their deficit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:16 PM

Maybe dynamic was the wrong word. I do subscribe to the "if she wanted to she would" viewpoint or "if it's not a fuck yes its a no". Most women have met men for whom they made themselves sexually available to really quickly and those are the men they truly desired. So if a guy has been chatting with a girl and she's like "meh I'm not sure if I'm interested in you, you need to impress me more" then I don't blame the guy for checking out. It's not really leadership tho I just think for guys its id…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:14 PM

I mean its not that bad. He didn't insult you or throw a fit. He's just like "this dynamic isn't what I want therefore I'm out". Cutting your losses early and avoiding wasted effort is the right move.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:04 PM
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I disagree. Their views and bitterness aren't typically the original root cause of their singleness. Those developed overtime as a result of extended periods of loneliness and sexlessness. So even if you eliminated their incel attitudes with a magic wand, the traits that made them an incel in the first place are still present.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:58 PM
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I think a feeling of being taken advantage of is a core concept when people talk about being used. When someone says they feel “used” by someone it typically means the person feels their rights have either been violated or they have been taken advantage of in some way, says Meghan Marcum, PsyD, chief psychologist at AMFM Healthcare. https://www.verywellmind.com/how-to-recognize-when-you-re-being-used-5207959
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:47 PM

true, can't forget that detail
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:40 PM

He suffocated in a well endowed woman's bosom just like he always wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:37 PM
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More so than if they could change their looks but keep their personality the ame?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:36 PM
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Well the phrasing of "being used for" typically denotes a feeling of resentment or that you got screwed over or a raw deal. Like your mentality seems "well I got sex so it no complaints here" meanwhile when women say they felt used for sex they don't seem to have that same positive outcome on the situation. Also sex is something that many men either don't get at all or typically end up having to earn through time,effort and money invested so if you got that essentially free no strings attached i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:31 PM
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does your husband not match that type?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:27 PM
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I mostly agree. I do kinda subscribe to the idea sex is something women control and decide who gets access to it. That's how it is in nature and even in humans it's very clear that whenever sex has been comodified women are the sellers and men are the buyers. So from that perspective a man getting free no strings attached access to sex is never being used imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:24 PM
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On the surface "I want a partner who I'm attracted to" is totally fine. However when we get into the details of what traits a guy must possess to check that box and how women will simultaneously claim that women face harsher judgment on their looks or that men are more shallow, that's where the disagree comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:19 PM
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Not that I'm complaining Then were you actually used for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:16 PM
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were they correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:14 PM

Lol what's with you and repeatedly taking jabs at bald men. Did a bald man fuck you over or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:55 PM

Perhaps visually but psychologically I'd probably feel like I'm fucking a corpse. I'm too neurotic for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:52 PM

I mean at that point might as well get a sex doll lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:33 PM
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Deadbedroom and or the woman cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:32 PM

I would consider it success to either get a relationship with a low bodycount woman OR being a fuckboy that just doesn't commit. Ultimately I would like to avoid the redpill stereotype where she had a hoe phase and I only get her when she's looking for someone to settle down with. I think if you're going to date the type of woman who has had casual sex then it's imperative that you are the same type of guy that she would choose for casual sex. Any situation where she views you as only good enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:26 PM
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There was this plus sized model on the Whatever podcast recently bragging about fucking NFL players and bodybuilders. Yet women have the audacity to claim looks standards are higher for them than for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:35 PM
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Mewing only works if you are really young and your facial bones are more maliable. If hes gone through puberty he needs orthodontics and/or surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:01 PM
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Do you ever call out women for doing the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:58 PM
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because the guys in your country are likely taller as well
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:58 PM
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like better about yourself or that the attraction to the non tall guys just isn't strong enough
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:56 AM
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Why wouldn't you go back if you supposedly find them attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:47 AM

did you grow up in a low income area?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:41 AM
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You've been attracted to non fit guys?? So scrawny, skinny fat or chubby? and I'm pretty sure I've seen you say since dating a tall guy you'd never go back to short or average and that you were never really attracted to them like you are your tall partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:40 AM

You roll in some weird crowds
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:34 AM
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If you're only attracted to tall fit guys with hair of a certain race how is that not a pattern? Like do you actually think your standards are more diverse than the average woman's? Cause on paper it sounds like a carbon copy of every other woman's standards
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:33 AM

I think guys often cheat just for the variety but don't actually want to swap their current partner while w9men cheat to upgrade and do actually want to switch. Without wanting to swap its not actually monkey branching so because women more often then men want to swap their current partner for the affair partner that's why monkey branching is more applicable to women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:29 AM
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Then why say you don't have an ideal type and that you've found all types of guys attractive? If you're mainly into tall, fit guys with full heads of hair and conventionally attractive faces then you don't really have that varied of taste
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:25 AM
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ok but no to the others I mentioned?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:53 AM

Both can cheat but it's more so women that are always looking for a bigger stronger superior mate to swap to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:51 AM
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even fat guys? short guys? bald guys? nerdy looking guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:45 AM
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The difference is likely facial attractiveness. That's more important than height.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:23 AM
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they seem so much rarer
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:15 PM
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and why can't there be woman cucks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:07 PM
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I've wondered that too. Like are there actually people buying products/services they see there. I guess there must be otherwise they wouldn't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:06 PM
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this cheating story is brutal Ive noticed how pretty much every cheating story has some variation of the womans friends encouraging her to cheat on her parter. Kinda gives credence to the advice of looking at a womans friends as an indicator or her sexual morality. If her friends are sluts she's either one too or they will eventually encourage her into becoming one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:41 PM
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I gave it as an example. And even with an n count of 7 that still leaves room for the typical woman to have been pumped and dumped by a couple football players. I never said it didn't. Men's and women's imperatives are often inverted. Having casual sex with fuckboys and jocks and then making Billy beta wait serves womens interests and it makes sense why they operate that way. However that is not beneficial for men which is why redpill would advise men to not fall for that trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:54 PM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:51 PM
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Yes the frame is the key and arguably most important. I was talking about women in general and its about size not necessarily muscles.A guy can be large without muscles if he is tall and has a good frame. A guy that isnt tall and broad is viewed as less of a man and less desirable in the eyes of most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:38 PM
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I didnt say it did, I said it's what would be preferable over the alternative. Women have enough leverage that if they want to have train run on them by the football team and then make hubby wait until marriage she will be successful in finding guys willing to accept that arrangement. If it's casual sex then yeah the guys are usually hot. Especially when selected off dating apps. There will always be unhinged guys in these spaces. Most red/blackpill aren't going to be angry about a woman who was…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:35 PM
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Part of it is that not every guy has the height and frame to look like the guys in the pictures. So trying to compensate with extra muscle is the next best option. Women's attraction to men seems to revolve around the guy needing to be big otherwise yall don't feel protected or feminine and he's not a "real man" so yeah its not surprising guys become obsessed with trying to become as big as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:23 PM
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Because yall only ever implement that standard AFTER you've offered yourselves up on a silver platter freely and easily to the fuckboys. So yes if the choice is women stay consistently easy versus they were easy for the fuckboys but then conveniently become hard to get right before we get a turn then the former is obviously preferable over the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:19 PM
3

please do 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:16 PM
1

Even if a guy gets off the apps, the women he'd be trying to date likely still have a presence there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:05 PM
3

Has mrsdegree stepped down as mod?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:53 PM
3

They weren't that muscular. Most of what gives them broad shoulders is their skeletal frame. First dude she posted was a good example, he's skinny but still has broad shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:52 PM
1

Sure, but wouldn't it be preferable to find one who does consider you attractive enough to swipe right on? Like its basically admitting they have two standards "attractive enough on the apps" and "attractive enough irl" where the first standard is higher than the second and you only pass the second admittedly lower standard. And presumably there were guys that she DID swipe right on and have sex with who were able to meet that first standard. So she's basically admitting you are a downgrade comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 05:11 PM
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I lean towards no. I think its important to be the type of guy she would find attractive enough to swipe right on. Id be very curious to see the kind of guys she was swiping right on and matching with and if there's a big discrepancy between me and the guys she was hooking up with from the apps thats not a relationship that's going to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:49 PM
3

There's enough guys with high bodycounts who care for women to complain about it. If it was only low bodycount men who cared there would not be women complaining about men being hypocritical and judging them for their bodycount despite also having a high bodycount.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:23 PM
1

The guy who owns and writes the blog from the link you posted
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:53 PM

We dont know if that will be the case for gen z. The reproduction rate has been in a steady decline as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:19 PM

In the past perhaps but the current trajectory is that fewer and fewer people are getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:16 PM
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how is that a passing grade? She said "If I was single I would have accepted a date for entertainment's sake, but it probably wouldn't have gone any further than that" which basically translate to "I'd let him buy me dinner knowing that I have zero interest or intention of going on additional dates with him" How is that a win for the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:10 PM
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You can't have two studies that are supposedly accurate and representative with drastically different results for the same variable. If Alex posts one study where the average number of lifetime partners is 4 and another where its 14, they can't both be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:01 PM
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To my knowledge such a study has not been conducted before.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 12:07 PM
5

this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:13 AM
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Okcupid used to release stats and articles about trends on their site. One article examined how much picture vs bio matters in determining matches. Their findings? The punchline of the article was "Turns out your picture is worth that fabled thousand words while your actual words aren't worth much" And that was like 2010 OKCupid. I'd imagine 2023 tinder/Bumble is even more superficial. Even if all men had bios you'd still be left swiping like 90% of men based on height and looks like every other…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:49 AM
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Sure, I'm fine with that. It's usually women who oppose mandatory DNA tests, shocker right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:43 AM
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I actually prefer brunettes over blondes. And its not like only hot women go for Chad. There really isn't any correlation between a womans attractiveness and how promiscuous she is. If anything there was one study showing less attractive women had more sexual partners than the attractive women but it wasn't by a lot. It's not like women have a glowing number above their heads that let's guys easily know which women are the chad chasers who have had casual sex and which are the good girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:41 AM
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I actually don't think it's the apps fault. Even if they had the best intentions the outcome will be the same. Women only find a small % of men physically attractive especially when a picture is all they have to go on so there's never going to be a dating app where women don't swipe left on the majority of men they see.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:33 AM
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I disagree. I think it should either be mandatory at the hospital or the guy should do it discreetly behind his partners back with one of the store bought tests. There's no benefit to a guy telling a woman before they have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:30 AM
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That Alex guy is not even consistent. So there he's referencing the GSS where the average # of lifetime partners is like 4. However I've also seen him try to debunk redpill with a study comparing height and # of sexual partners where the average # of partners was 14. So two different studies that Alex posts as gospel with two completely different results for the number of lifetime partners. He also often just removes the outliers in his reporting but if we're trying to talk about men who are fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:13 AM
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Fuckability is not meritocratic. It isn't about "good enough." You either turn someone on or you don't. Women are not disgusted by most men, they're just not horny the way men are for women. It is tho. Their physical appearance is either good enough or not good enough to elicit sexual desire. They are disgustEd in the sense that the idea of having sex with or dating those men elicits a feeling of disgust. Dating apps are 70% male and even clubs often have "ladies nights" to prevent sausage fests…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 12:03 AM
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In a way yes. She's ruined for guys who are not as large/strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:57 PM
1

nope
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:00 PM
1

loyal, kind, hot, wealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:59 PM
1

physical: pale to olive complexion 5'0 to 5'7 height petite, skinny fat or curvy/toned brown or black straight to wavy hair cute/high trust facial features personality: modest, humble, playful, affectionate, faithful, no BPD political: centrist egalitarian other: body count < 3 ideally virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:58 PM
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if the guy in question is not fat then he's an above average man looking for an above average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:51 PM
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How is that not lesser? If there's a tier of guy who are good enough to have sex with and/or date and another tier of guy who the idea of having sex with or date is viscerally disgusting to women how is that second tier of guy not inferior/less compared to the first? Also, most women would not fuck a random hot guy off the street either. Litterally off the street, probably not. However a random hot guy at a club/party or via a dating app, that's a different story. So the few women that are willi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:45 PM
2

Between you and your 6'2 brother who has slept with more women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:26 PM
2

I'm shocked
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:04 PM

Lol the guys who dont even like virgins get to have sex with the most virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:49 PM

I mean even women kinda lean into wanting to be fucked agressively by a large strong man. Womens sexuality could be summarized as "bigger is better". They want big physique, big height, big dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:00 PM
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Huh? I've acknowledged that women find most men unattractive. The point of the analogy is that women have a much higher threshold for what they deem drinkable water/physically attractive. And women absolutely do want to fuck random men, as long as the guys are genetically gifted enough in terms of their physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:55 PM
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You're proving my point. Women find genetically average men disgusting while men find genetically average women reasonably attractive. Just like most men would be fine to drink the Dasani bottled water to stay alive while women view the Dasani bottled water as akin to drinking raw sewage and insist they need Fiji or Evian for the water to meet their threshold for drinkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:50 PM

I have an enemy of my enemy is my friend mentality about her. Like she's not a true ally but she's effective enough at pissing off the enemy without getting banned like a man would with her same talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:47 PM

Yeah, exactly. She gets a higher level of income than what the local men can provide and he gets a more attractive and hopefully less promiscuous woman than he would have gotten in his home country.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:46 PM
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Women concistently rate the majority of guys as being physically unattractive so yeah if a woman claims she hooked up with an average guy people are going to be skeptical
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:32 PM
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Men often overestimate how much muscles women want in a guy just like women overestimate how skinny men want them to be. But yes overall, Chad is a stand in term for a guy that is sufficiently above average in physical attraction and has many opportunities to have sex with women without having to commit or wait/pay for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:30 PM
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Even women regularly admit the guys they go for in their late 20s early 30s are often different they'll just say it's "a natural part of growing older and maturing" And evo pysch researchers also report that for casual sex/short term mating men lower their standards while women are more picky about physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:28 PM
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It's more like this Men are dying of thirst in the desert. Women are dying of thirst in a Dasani bottled water factory because they "have standards" and refuse to drink anything but Evian or Fiji water.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:48 PM
2

Women don't typically fuck down for casual so its not as common as pump & dumps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:45 PM
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Probably less than 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:42 PM
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lol yall always default to thinking every post is fake. It's a 4 year old account and she has a face pic. If it was a 4 day old account I'd be more inclined to agree its fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 01:33 AM
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how many guys over 6ft are you matching with?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:58 AM
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too far 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:34 AM
2

I don't even remember, was E actually a grade?? I thought it went ABCDF
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:32 AM
1

which pill affiliations were they?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:29 AM
2

women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:24 AM
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My issue is that it is predominantly women that push for marriage in the first place. Yall want that public "till death do us part" oath because otherwise you think you're a "forever girlfriend" and he's "dragging his feet" and "boy who is scared of commitment". But then yall will be the first to end the marriage at a rate of 80% of all divorces being initiated by you. So fine, don't stay and try to make relationships work when you're unhappy but also stop pushing for marriage and expecting that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:23 AM
1

voicemaxx
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:26 PM
1

don't ruin my fantasy 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:03 PM
1

true I guess only men care about exact measurements while women just judge visually on a binary big vs scale
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:55 PM
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I feel like he's me if I could draw 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:54 PM
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damn really? is it cause of the illustrations?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:54 PM
1

Then how do you know micro would be bad if you never had it? also you sure it was actually average? Generally average isn't viewed as good lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:43 PM
1

both men and women do that tbf Like women always give their preferences in terms of length so when you ask women what their preference is the answers will usually be some variation of "at least 6inches" or "around 7" ect Very few ever specify exact measurements for girth nor do they ever list a maximum size that is too big, only a minimum. So naturally I think men end up being more concerned with length.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:41 PM
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Eh I think identifying with it is probably asking to get mocked. The women's response is normally like "MGTOW more like men sent their own way 💁‍♀️🤡" and tbf I think it's probably somewhat accurate for a decent percentage of them. Like I don't think many of them are fielding options for sex and just turning them down but maybe I'm wrong. Anways I'd say I'm probably in practice MGTOW in the sense I just dont bother to date as I see it as pointless at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:38 PM
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Ah so average was kinda meh so you dont even want to think about what micro is like?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:34 PM
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Most women will say no and the women who do say yes absolutely do not want to be asked out by the shy insecure guys. They want to be asked out by the confident successful guys that are already asking women out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:31 PM
1

I did before out of curiosity and I agree it can be a pain. Waxing is definitely preferable if you want to stay smooth for am extended period.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:30 PM
1

So basically the logic is that since the standards to be viewed as attractive are lower for women they will do better as trans women than as cis men even accounting for the trans penalty. I think it could legitimately be true for some guys but obviously it depnds
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:25 PM
1

why is that your biggest fear? have you had one before?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:22 PM
1

lol true I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:19 PM
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they don't actually have to choose tho, most of them are able to hookup with guys who have both
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:19 PM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:58 PM
4

Lillth and daily reminders, name a more dynamic duo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:57 PM
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I dont think most say it's going to be a hostile takeover. It's more like, as more men check out of society and have less vested interest in it youll continue to see things like guys like Trump being elected, Andrww Tates of the world gaining prominance, abortion laws being appealed, fewer men willing to do the jobs no one wants to do ect. Also the declining reproduction rates falling below replacement levels will likely have negative impacts as well. Oh and higher rates og single moms and broke…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:56 PM

you're using the most extreme examples tho. Yes the most extreme insecure guy is maybe worse than the most extreme insecure woman but I don't think the average is that different
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:54 PM

Do you think the same applies in reverse to insecure women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:02 PM

ok, fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:00 PM

OLD still comprises of a decent chunk of the dating market/sex/relationships being had. So if we have one chunk that is severely biased in favor of one side I dont think we can handwave it like it doesnt matter at all. Speed dating events and in-person pickup experiments also show similar results where women are far more picky than men. So while those maybe aren't as skewed as OLD it's not like the in person methods are balanced for men either
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:40 PM

I think if it's deep, it's defitely a benefit where it makes your words perceived as more seductive charming and dominant than they otherwise would be. There are also several youtubers who come to mind where they have amassed a large following of female fans primarily based on their deep voices. And on the flip side if it's high pitched or nasally I think it hurts you causing your words to be perceived as more whiny and weak than they otherwise would. I also think it often triggers "the ick" in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:21 PM

damn really? I thought they mainly pegged extreme lookism stuff as blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:55 PM

Who women marry isn't the best representation of who they are dating and having sex with in their early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:54 PM

Yeah it seems women are given more leeway to exhibit either masculine or feminine traits while men still are largely funneled into a singular path. If a woman wants to be a stay at home mom or opt for a lower income career with more worklife balance she's still feminine and desirable However if she wants to climb the corporate ladder and be ambitious like men were typically expected to do she's still womanly but any man who is less ambitious/wealthy than her is written off as not a real man/less…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:51 PM

I think redpill agrees with that too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:30 PM

Yeah I dont think most people actually do. There's a lot of hooting the shit with coworkers, goofing off on phones ect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:29 PM
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I like videogames My favorite food is pizza I am a member of the PurplePillDebate subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:26 PM
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it's an online meeting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:25 PM
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it's not just socializing it's awkward forced socializing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:45 PM
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lol please link it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:43 PM
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Yeah like they constantly say "the men I know irl are normal and have no trouble with dating. Incels are an insufferable fridge minority" but then like you pointed out they purposely go out of their way to get involved in spaces where these men they can't stand congregate. They genuinely just enjoy laughing at and mocking the misfortune of others. I mean just look at the r/inceltears subreddit, I bet there's a big crossover between women who post on IT and the women who congregate here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:42 PM
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many of the OF girls also double as sugar babies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:39 PM
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also on the note of flairs, mods need to modify the black no pill flair to have a male and female variant I keep getting my comments removed by automod on the Q4M posts because the Black No Pill flair is not recognized as male. Automod keeps misgendering me😭
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:38 PM
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Probably not. There are too many variables that you can't directly influence as a parent. You can probably take efforts to reduce the likelihood but certainly not to the extent of 100% risk reduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:36 PM
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I know! Like does anyone actually like those mevenings? I dont want to project my antisocial tendencies on to others but in my heart of hearts I want to believe even the new hires find those meetings awkward and painful too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:35 PM
2

Ugh there's a new hire joining our team today and we're having an ice breaker type get to know eachother meeting. Please kill me 😫
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:00 PM
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That's a good compromise between the two but on principle I'd still find it more appealing if she offers to split.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:58 PM
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Palestine
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:41 PM
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Well naturally guys who struggle or have struggled at one point are going to be more likely to gravitate towards spaces like this. That much should be obvious imo. Also dating is complex and people's experiences can and often will be very different depending on the attributes they posses. We aren't all playing the game under the same starting parameters. One guy might say it's very easy to get women and just be yourself and women will naturally want to have sex with you while another might say i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:50 PM
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nightmare fuel 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:06 PM
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Not only that but the caliber of men they have access to for casual is often higher to so not only do men have to accept their wife had more casual sex than they did they also have to accept the men she had casual sex with were likely hotter and more sexually experienced than him too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:59 PM
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even if you make a point to qualify it with "most" or "generally" they'll still give you random anecdotal exceptions thinking it disproves the trend so it's pointless to even try
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:57 PM

It's also dumb cause it's within their power to change. If it turned out that guys who shaved their entire bodies got laid more as a result guys would do it in droves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:40 AM
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commenting here since automod misgendered me and removed my comment Yes but I would prefer they shave their legs. Although I'd be open to shaving mine if it genuinely made her more attractive to me but not if it's just a petty "If I shave mine then you have to shave yours" sort of deal
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:39 AM
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lol good point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:29 AM
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