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I completely agree with that, however when one partner has a consistently lower libido/interest in sex, repeated asking or pressure can make sex feel like a chore, obligation, or “debt” that needs to be paid so they’ll stop nagging you. r/deadbedrooms is a wonderland for that sort of issue
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 08:27 PM
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Not the person you replied to, but perhaps it’s because many consider marriage to be a “contract.” I mean, it legally *is*, but to those who believe it to be so in daily life may believe there are obligations or duties in a marriage that must be fulfilled wether they like it or not. Example: breadwinner really wants a new car, but must support the household with their income. They’re obligated to give their paycheck to the household, as it’s their duty. The household is “owed” that money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 05:32 PM
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Pls enjoy the surprise of a man not knowing how to cohabitate and making your life miserable bc he leaves piss on the seat or whatever 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:24 PM
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OP, your title and body do not match each other OR what you’re debating in the comments. Please correct your post and repost accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:35 PM
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Men want slaves pt 4838274
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:56 PM
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Happy to provide sources, but your post addressed psychological impact of this so please address that in your reply to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:39 PM
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Psychologically optimal? Let me get this straight: I get to deal with constant judgement from others about my relationship. My spouse will likely be dead before I’m even retired. I’m either part of the minority of women attracted to men their dad’s age, or I just have to deal with not being attracted to my life partner. If I have children with him, I get to raise them alone once he dies (likely when they’re teens) and they will never know their father as adults. All of this in exchange for some …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:23 PM
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> sex isnt on the table Seems pretty straightforward. Someone can be really into foreplay but know they don’t want to have sex, and it definitely comes off as pressuring to ask again after someone states sex isn’t on the table. At that point, it’d be on her to initiate sex without being asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:04 PM
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Thanks to feminist progress in society, I no longer have to marry a man in order to have a roof over my head and food on the table, and I don’t need his signature on my bank account. I want a man in my life. My incentive is mutual love, joy, and a life well lived shared with someone I care about. Average or “lame” is fine, as long as I enjoy being around him and he makes my life better overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:14 PM
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I do not see children through the fallacy that a switch randomly flips one day and they are suddenly able to understand everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:00 PM
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You seem to be missing the nuance of my comment. I agree with you that children can make decisions. Good decisions require life experience and understanding of the world that children and teens don’t have. Once you are able to understand the choice you have capacity to consent. 5-8 year olds would do nothing but eat candy and never clean their room if given the choice. Those are decisions, but they lack an awareness of their best interests (healthy body, clean space) that drives them to act sole…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:38 PM
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So unrealistic and vague, except I’ve experienced it myself? It’s easy to understand consent under duress once you’ve been in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:18 PM
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The concept of consent does not apply to someone who lacks the cognitive ability to understand consent or what they’re consenting to. Someone in a vegetative state cannot consent to having their ass wiped by their caretaker. By your logic, that’s a problem. By my logic, that’s simply how it is because they don’t have the ability to consent, but their best interests are being prioritized. A parent has their children’s best interests in mind. The child doesn’t even understand their own interests i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:16 PM
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What does that mean? I’m assuming you mean she appears to be happier or more receptive to your suggestions?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:11 PM
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Hm, then it seems every parent ever should be in prison. That logic totally makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:10 PM
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We’re talking about homework and clean rooms, not sex. When someone lacks the capacity to consent (to get vaccines, or clean their rooms, etc) a trusted guardian is the one that “consents” for them. A key component of child development is learning to understand the concept consent and apply it in graduating stages (don’t kiss me please, I don’t want to eat that, etc). Adults have capacity and understand consent. The OP is about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:09 PM
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The whole point of this sub is attempting to debate while speaking in generalizations. Don’t engage in contentless rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:03 PM
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I accept that answer. Do you have any other examples besides growing closer/developing a stronger bond?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:02 PM
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Can you provide specific examples of “change” you’ve seen that prompted you to ask for sex again after someone told you no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:57 PM
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Consent under duress is about violation of bodily autonomy. Children are not consenting under duress when their parent asks them to clean their room or their teacher asks them to do their homework. If we’re getting specific, society has largely decided that children are not capable of informed consent because they don’t have the cognitive ability to be informed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:56 PM
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I had a “sexually adventurous” phase before my current LTR. My values never changed, but my goals have. Initially, I wanted to explore and understand what I want out of my physical relationships and what habits/values of potential partners work for me. I was very open to a LTR, but that’s harder to find when you don’t know your own criteria. I made lots of “mistakes,” which sucked in the moment but ultimately taught me a lot about my own boundaries and what I want out of a partner. Eventually, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:21 PM
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Pasted directly from the wiki on lookism: Invalidation of arguments not about looks by responding "they would or would not do something for Chad/attractive person" or "it's only because they were attractive/unattractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:05 PM
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Woof. Couldn’t be me. I had a hookup phase shortly after I graduated college and had zero tolerance for disrespect. Some people let horniness cloud their judgement in dangerous ways
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:00 PM
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> many people I think you mean men, if we’re speaking in generalizations. > hypersexualized social environment What does this mean to you? As someone who touches grass (ie socializes a lot in public third spaces), I do not connect at all with the idea that most or even many social environments are hypersexualized. Dating and flirting does happen in most third spaces, but it hasn’t “taken over” in any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:52 PM
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Removing feelings ≠ removing respect. Hookup oriented people largely still care about being respected but are obviously uninterested in feelings/a desire for meaningful connection. Just my 2¢
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:47 PM
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Men that don’t see women as people haven’t seemed to notice. They can stay that way, as long as it’s not around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:43 PM
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Your post seems to explain general social disconnect in highly urbanized areas due to less “community” in the traditional sense, which I could agree with. However, urban areas are getting much better about creating and centering third spaces where new kinds of community are emerging—adults tied together not by children or religion, but by shared interests and belief systems. Hobby groups, workout groups, and the kink community all come to mind. In addition, I fail to see how a lack of traditiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:39 PM
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Dating gets easier when men see women as people, not objects to use/discard/ignore or conquests to pursue doggedly. Grass is green, sky is blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:31 PM
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This will inevitably devolve into shrieking about no true scotsman. But I cannot believe men waste their precious days on this earth with a woman that actually believes “my money is mine and your money is ours” regardless if she identifies as a feminist. THAT is borderline financial abuse but maybe my financial planner tendencies are coloring my perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:31 PM
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This post was removed because OP is unable to engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:50 PM
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“Critique my theory” posts are not allowed. Please read the sidebar for what you can post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:26 PM
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Feminist related posts are against the rules when not related to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:08 PM
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Did you even read the study you linked? You linked something stating that women are more stressed out by debt than men after controlling for debt level and other relevant factors. It has very little information on the amount of debt held by each gender, because it wasn’t the focus of the study. Also, *you’re
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:25 PM
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This is a personal theory, but I think approaching men makes them think I am much more willing to quickly escalate sexually than I really am. They (falsely) assume that I’m looking for a hookup or am an easy lay just because I approached, and suddenly they treat me very differently from a woman they had to approach themselves. They think they’ve passed the “test” and are in the home stretch to get puss, and drop all manners and pretenses and suddenly I’m being assaulted. Idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:15 PM
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Some of them were, most of them weren’t. Someone I already knew sexually assaulted me, then tried to claim I wanted it. Just to clarify, are you blaming me for my own assault if I had cold-approached?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:59 PM
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My experience is extremely common. I can and do tell other women to not follow in my footsteps. I only approach men because I’m very confident in my boundaries, ability to say no, and can defend myself well if needed, which makes my experience safer than the average woman’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:45 PM
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No it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:42 PM
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I can see that it would be better for men and I concede that point. As a woman that does approach men, I have had my approach bite me in the ass several times: - man assumes I want to sleep with him immediately, and I was sexually assaulted within 30 seconds of greeting him. - man says something insane that turns me off, he proceeds to get belligerent or aggressive when I try to nope out of the interaction. - I did not see man was with woman, woman runs over screaming at me and ready to fight. -…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:51 PM
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From the wiki on which posts get removed: Feminism related posts where they are not directly related to RP and Relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:31 PM
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From the wiki on posts that will be removed: “Feminism related posts where they are not directly related to RP and Relationships.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:26 PM
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Modmail us if you are interested in posting a survey for academic research.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:28 PM
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Blue piller, I imagine?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:08 PM
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Perfect! As long as we agree that physically abusing kids under the guise of “consequences” isn’t a valid option, raise your kids however you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:59 PM
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Literal street justice is not a normal consequence for “bad” behavior as an adult. Adults don’t hit each other to enforce rules. We’re a civilized society. There is *absolutely* still a large middle ground between hitting your fucking kids and being neglectful, what on earth are you talking about? Coddling (ie permissive parenting) is falling out of favor again, but other forms of parenting are not considered neglectful/abusive unless there are actual elements of neglect or abuse. Y’know, stuff …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:32 PM
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This is rude as hell. Do you treat customer service workers poorly because you think them to be beneath you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:52 PM
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The consequences for being bad when you’re an adult aren’t being beaten, hit, slapped, or spanked. Why do you think hurting children is an acceptable way to teach “consequences” instead of creating more situationally appropriate consequences (or in some cases, allowing natural consequences to occur)? There is a middle ground between physical abuse and permissive parenting. Good fucking god.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:49 PM
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I could agree that MOST folks with unrealistic standards are being influenced by social media, but this is a tale as old as time tbh. I have spoken to lots of “single by choice” folks that (when pressed) admit they know they’ll never find a partner that will meet their impossibly high standards so they don’t even bother dating. There can be a degree of self awareness that exists outside of being blindly brainwashed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:02 PM
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So? They can choose singleness over having a partner most would consider “out of their league.” I would prefer they remain single over making a partner they don’t truly like miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:55 PM
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Undesirable people can have unrealistic standards. Even desirable people can have unrealistic standards. Grass is green, sky is blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:46 PM
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I see nuance is hard for you. I know it’s difficult to learn new things, but feel free to research each wave’s very different goals and methods and get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:58 PM
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….nope. Google is free and it’s quite easy to research the different branches/waves of feminism, each with their own ideas of what the “problem” is and how to fix it. Not sure how you reached that conclusion about my feminist beliefs, but I wish you well in your gender studies!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:35 PM
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I’m not supporting or advocating for shit. I made a comment under the off-topic automod about how problems in relationships caused by power imbalances can be addressed with proactive communication and pointed out how kinksters (objectively weird people) do it well all the time. What are *you* talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:29 PM
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Cannot share those details, but it’s been dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:54 PM
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The purpose of communicating about it is to create a plan (boundaries, goals, guardrails, systems for conflict management) to mitigate the potential harm of the power imbalance. Just talking about it and acknowledging it is step one—there are more steps afterwards to actually address it. If someone is mentally impaired to the point where they are unable to understand or negotiate boundaries, it is unethical to date them. Same thing with age gaps, which is why being under 25 and dating with a hug…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:52 PM
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Feminist here—not true? There are different kinds of feminism and each kind has their own opinion on what’s oppressive AND how to meet that challenge/deal with it. My brand of feminism recognizes power imbalances as potentially oppressive, but the harms of it can be mitigated by discussing it and putting in boundaries or making changes to the relationship to make it healthier for all parties involved. Yknow, like grown fucking adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:50 PM
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Report the thread for OP abandonment next time and we can deal with it, we’re not constantly monitoring every debate thread for OP engagement. I only saw this because saying “mod” flagged your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:18 PM
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The point I’m drawing from kink is communicate when you identify potential issues that could cause issues long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:08 PM
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Sure, but my point is “acknowledge and communicate” and then you can have a power imbalance in a relationship that won’t poison it over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:08 PM
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Don’t bring other threads into the daily thread please.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:25 PM
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I know this subreddit is focused on vanilla heterosexual dating dynamics, but it would really blow some fucking minds when yall find out what’s going on in the BDSM/kink scene. Folks deliberately seek out power exchange/authority transfer (PEAT) relationships. They’re (usually) well negotiated and have failsafes to make sure everyone feels safe and has logistical protection but it’s a deeply rewarding experience for many when done right In vanilla relationships, acknowledge the elephant in the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:50 PM
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She’s been banned bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:42 PM
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No, we’re not doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:44 PM
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No. Isn’t there a whole TV show based on this premise, Love Is Blind or something? Seems like a recipe for disaster and unmet expectations when attraction is an important part of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:41 PM
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Divorce is quite a leap, as is accusing your partner of infidelity with no clear proof by questioning paternity. We can agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:45 PM
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Not for me, no. If you think you have the “capacity to be wrong” in trusting me not to pass off another man’s child as yours, we’re not compatible. If you’re sure you want a paternity test for every child you have, I would have that conversation alongside the “do we wanna have kids together” conversation super early on. Make sure expectations are clear and everyone is on the same page long before a human child exists and suffers the consequences of their father’s insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:35 PM
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OP is asking what I think the punishment should be. In the hypothetical scenario where my husband thinks I cheated on him and tried to pass off another man’s child as his, the trust is so far gone I don’t want to attempt repair. It is so beyond disrespectful to assume that of me that I clearly have made a mistake in marrying the man. He’s either started drinking right-wing koolaid or is cheating himself and projecting onto me. So yes, if he questions paternity it’s over no matter what’s actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:20 PM
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He gets to be single and pay child support. Yay for blowing up families due to your own insecurities!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:48 PM
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Perhaps you should work on your standards for who you’re going on dates with, otherwise I think you’re getting a little tinfoil hat-ish about how quickly women want to marry you for your money. And no, not everyone is a gold digger for the right price.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:13 PM
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I don’t think that being starry-eyed means they’re ready to get married after a single date. I think you’re correctly reading their interest in your stability/success. That being said, unless you’re dating profoundly damaged, desperate, or mentally ill women, nobody is ready for marriage at the end of date 1 (or anywhere near it). Making good money doesn’t accelerate timelines unless you’re with a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:57 PM
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Pressure to have “consensual” sex often results in coercion and consent under duress, which means it stops being fully consensual. I wouldn’t go as far as calling that marital rape but it sure as shit isn’t healthy or fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:52 PM
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What do signs of that look like? Is it literally talking about marriage or pushing specifically to marry you, or something else? Are you regularly getting marriage proposals when someone finds out how wealthy you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:22 PM
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It seems like you’re trying to make the task seem less labor intensive than it is. There’s more steps than just “put dirty clothes in”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:15 PM
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Both of you quit it or you’ll both be temp banned. Engage with folks in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:36 PM
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I’m glad I’m not crazy. Their messages are not showing up and we’re being accused of deliberately ignoring it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:58 PM
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Nope. Can’t see it, as I mentioned before. Stop pinging individual moderators.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:45 PM
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You cannot ping individual mods to flag their attention. This is like, basic etiquette. I’m an internet janitor and I will give the same amount of time and urgency to incessant inappropriate pings as I receive pay :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:45 PM
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I’m on mobile and these mails did not show up for me when I searched for them. I am trying to help you while at work, unfortunately some folks do have lives and other obligations to care for. I encourage you to try to engage with people in good faith especially when you expect them to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:30 PM
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There are no modmails from your username.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:50 PM
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Do NOT individually ping the mod team. If you feel you are being harassed, report the comment or send a modmail. If you do this again you will be temp banned
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:45 PM
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If someone is harassing you, report the comment or modmail with more information
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:42 PM
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You said: I’m not well-versed in the details of prenups For the third time, that is why I suggest you stop having opinions on things you don’t know anything about. believe all women This is a slogan to support women making sexual assault allegations, not alimony. Quite a strawman, there!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:59 PM
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You are either misinterpreting me or misunderstanding me. I’m preferring to American prenups, which you have already admitted to knowing almost nothing about. I am not referring to any moral or value system, I’m talking about simple financial common sense to not burn free money because of pride or whatever other nonsense men come up with. It’s dumb to reject free money unless you already have too much, in which case you would not be getting alimony in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:16 PM
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Nope, but the law was still written without gendered language and applies to both sexes just the same. Men get alimony these days too now, yay!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:59 PM
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Do not call me sister, thanks. It doesn’t really make sense to have a take if you don’t even understand what prenups do—how do you know if a prenup is relevant when you don’t know what situations they’re meant for? You do not sound American based on your comment, you should probably stop having opinions on legal documents that don’t exist in your culture/country of origin that you know little about. > a man will typically not request to take alimony …source? Genuinely, where is that information …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:57 PM
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Oh. Well, if you don’t know how prenups work then I recommend against having strong opinions on them. There are lots of online resources that can teach you what they accomplish and who they protect. If men reject alimony, that’s…on them. I can’t imagine why someone would set court awarded money on fire, unless they’re stupid and their pride gets the better of them in most life situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:05 PM
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Alimony and divorce laws are meant to protect the non-breadwinning spouse from destitution while they get back on their feet. Thanks to the patriarchy (wonder who came up with that), it’s been *men* who are the breadwinners and thus are not in need of financial protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:02 PM
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If the amount of the assets isn’t higher than the cost of lawyers for two people for the duration of prenup negotiations, a prenup isn’t relevant. How big of a wage difference is enough to warrant a prenup in your opinion? In the event of a divorce, a prenup with a significant wage difference would have carve outs to protect the *lower* earning spouse, not the other way around. > not socially acceptable The courts don’t take that into consideration. It’s based on who worked during a marriage and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:58 PM
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This is true in community property states, which there are only 9 of. In community property states, spouses are equal co-owners of all assets and income earned. This does not inherently prevent a husband from controlling access to banking accounts. In equitable distribution states (the other 41), whoever’s name is on the paycheck is who controls the funds even if both spouses have the same obligation to support their household. In these states, it’s culturally more common to have “your money, my…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:16 PM
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That sounds constructive and like a great use of your time. That being said, I was moreso referring to what solutions blackpillers propose on a macro level.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:35 PM
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This post makes no sense. Please modmail the mods to explain this post, or re-write it so that the title and body match each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:36 PM
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At its core, blackpill is a profoundly anti-social ideology that would sow distrust, resentment, and fear amongst society if spread widely. The social contract breaks down when people assume the worst of each other. Also, what is the end-goal of blackpillers? In my experience they’ve suggested things like government mandated girlfriends, prison time for perceived injustices, or simply murdering women that wrong them. They don’t seem to have great ideas for how to fix what they think is wrong wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:20 PM
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Stop pinging users in comments
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:29 PM
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Cannot post advice or personal anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:27 PM
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IMO (un)fortunately OP posted a word salad only a human could make. I barely understand their point. So unless others disagree it’ll stay up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:24 PM
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OP didn’t even use possessive apostrophes correctly, are we sure it’s AI generated?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:20 PM
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No No Absolutely not No
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:58 PM
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Women feel immense pressure to conform to what is expected of them sexually. In a conservative society, it makes sense they internalize some shame about their normal sexual behavior the same way men do about their dick size. Less to do with “impressing” anyone and more to do with avoiding perceived shame or being a social outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:23 PM
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I don’t lie about my body count because I don’t care what anyone thinks of it, but (shocker) nobody ever asks me. None of my boyfriends have ever asked, because my answer doesn’t matter to them either. My values dictate who we are as people and how we treat others indicate character more than how many dicks and vaginas someone has interacted with. Women courting more conservative men may feel the need to misrepresent their past experiences in an attempt to meet his values of purity and piousness…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:12 PM
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Oh no, what ever will I do. Enjoy having the cops called on you when you try it!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:55 PM
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The man that showed up to my home uninvited was conventionally attractive. That didn’t make his behavior any less unsafe and scary for me. I don’t care how attractive you are, don’t show up at my place without asking me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:31 PM
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Women that are rejecting Nice Guys because they’re noticing manipulative or pushy behavior don’t generally want to be friends with them, either. In my experience, the only time I “friend zoned” a Nice Guy was because I felt unsafe telling him off or removing him from my life. I had to gently decline, be evasive, and slow fade so he wouldn’t show up outside my house a second time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:33 PM
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Holy generalization, Batman. women sell the idea of romance Women are also genuinely romantic people and care about love as much as men do, broadly speaking men fall for it, as they are the more romantic sex Men are also genuinely romantic people and care about love as much as women do. If they “fell for” an act that’s supposedly obvious, what are you saying about men’s intelligence here? relationships are transactional to women Incorrect generalization, but a great example of projection ;) some…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:10 PM
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That is not what prostitution is. It’s a guaranteed transactional exchange. By this logic, people who are gambling at casinos are already winners! It’s about intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:05 PM
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Sugar babies, hookers and call girls are sex workers/“prostitutes.” If someone is not guaranteed money for their transactional service, then it is not a transaction and they are not a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:22 PM
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hopes for Uhhh, no. A prostitute doesn’t invite a John over “hoping” for financial gain. Money, or no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:30 PM
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I have no idea where you got that from what I said. It’s lame to flash wealth, it’s lame to fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:29 PM
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Prostitution is transactional, does not involve romantic feelings, and is inherently temporary intimacy. Both parties are aware it is a transaction and have boundaries to protect themselves. You seem to be confusing shitty relationship behaviors/preferences with sex work. gold digging This is forming a relationship with someone for the sole purpose of extracting money from them. Maybe it overlaps with prostitution, though it is understood as universally gross behavior. sugar baby Yes, this is se…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:49 PM
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Screaming with laughter at the idea that most women get satisfying orgasms the first time they fuck a new dude and the dude gets “nothing”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:25 PM
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Be C i v i l.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:22 PM
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Be civil, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:21 PM
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Dawg chill it’s 9am for me im working on it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 02:07 PM
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It’s gross because you said it to a stranger, with zero warmup or chemistry. You wanting sex isn’t gross, you skipping steps 1 through 6 of getting to know someone and build chemistry before propositioning someone is gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:06 PM
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It is, the way men and women are socialized is the “social construct” part of it where we are literally trained from infancy to want different things and behave differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 12:54 PM
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Um…any proof it is 95%+ of women? The burden of proof is on you here, if you’re making the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 01:19 PM
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This sounds like a problem of “I only befriend women would fuck”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:51 AM
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You can enter a marriage through love and leave it because the love didn’t last. Marriage being a reversible union doesnt make it “not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:36 PM
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Source? That’s a wild claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:22 PM
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Assuming you’ll be banned from a gym or public space for politely attempting interaction is not rational and not a common outcome. It doesn’t happen, even. Men that get that consequence are not being polite or tactful. “Sexual harassment baiting” is not a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 01:24 PM
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This is a level of paranoia, fear, and social anxiety that needs medication and therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 11:26 AM
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The world isn’t black and white, part of why people hate mods is because we sometimes have to make subjective judgments about when someone’s harsh language crosses a line. Comparing your conversation with them to a middle schooler’s capacity for intellectual conversation is not constructive or kind, but is it worth nuking your whole comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 11:24 AM
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Your comments didn’t cross into full on incivility but you’re riding the line really hard and it doesn’t add much to your ideas. Please be chill
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:39 AM
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For me, mouth-to-genital contact or genital-to-genital counts as sex as a rule. There are other things that def count like pegging and strap-on sex that don’t happen as often
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:13 AM
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Identifying with incel ideology is not the same thing as being a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 01:32 AM
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OP was banned for admitting he is an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:54 PM
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OP was banned for admitting he is an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:53 PM
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I want to provide a rule clarification that while this dude is being annoying, there is no “contentless rhetoric” on daily threads since there’s no focused conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:48 PM
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Just wanted to let you know the OP was removed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:45 PM
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This is one of the issues we’re consistently good about dealing with quickly. We don’t like when people decide to cut debates off that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:29 PM
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I understand this is hot gay woman privilege in action, but one of my favorite dates ever came from me asking someone out at the central branch of my library. Browsing the same section = meet cute. Literary nerds have fantasies about this exact thing lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:56 PM
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Please be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:59 PM
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How about no. I would like to choose my own partner, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:38 PM
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We can all agree anyone claiming women are all the same in some sense aren’t credible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:38 PM
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Women have gripes with men making sweeping statements about “this is the Right way to get laid.” I don’t care if you have a defined strategy as long as you’re not being insane about it by telling the women you’re dating or claiming it’s the “One True Way”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:37 PM
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I don’t like to deal in stereotypes, especially ones that are extremely gender essentialist. This goes back to the stop fucking assuming women are all the same I’m fucking BEGGING you. You’re all banging your heads on the wall trying to figure out a formula to make woman make sex come out. We’re all different people with different wants and priorities and personality traits, even if we fit into “boxes” dictated by interests
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:35 PM
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Her not wanting to be approached in those spaces doesn’t mean she’s incompatible with you. In my experience, those women want to be friends with men before the chance of anything else is there. My original point stands—women aren’t a monolith and it’s a losing strategy to assume they all want the same thing or to be approached/not be approached in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:32 PM
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I have to accept I’m a genetic dead end Yes. Welcome to the real world. Mary the Minge And I hope Ms. Mary makes you miserable, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:29 PM
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It has absolutely nothing to do with “fault” and everything to do with being an ethical parent and being able to understand the life you want slipped from your fingers. purchase a mate Sounds like long term prostitution and surrogacy, not love. Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:17 PM
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I will not “adapt” by being with someone I don’t like or agree with or want to hang out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:15 PM
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Nobody is “forcing” you to have children, it’s entirely on the man’s inability to refocus his goals to be more age-appropriate. When women don’t get to have kids, they simply miss out and move on from that stage of their lives. How are men unable to do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:47 PM
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Arcades. Libraries. Book clubs. Movie theaters. Conventions. Women that enjoy those hobbies and frequent those spaces exist (I’m one of them). The “there’s no women who like the same stuff as me” argument just doesn’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:39 PM
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Dating apps don’t represent real life. I thought we all agreed on that. It doesn’t represent who people are or what they really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:36 PM
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I would prefer to die alone than be with someone I have nothing in common with, much less someone whose values didn’t align with mine. magical museum example Yes, actually, that’s how all of humanity met (outside of arranged marriages) before dating apps ruined everything. Chance encounters and meet cutes. And it’s working well for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:34 PM
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It’s almost like…women aren’t a monolith and there is no One True Way to attract them. What makes one woman happy will offend another. What one woman seeks in a partner is a red flag to another. Think about your values and habits and what your ideal woman’s values and habits are—craft your strategy around that. If you’re a gym head, hitting on women at the gym might actually be a good strategy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:56 PM
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For me, no. Big difference between masturbating to specifically sexual content of someone you don’t know and masturbating to sfw photos of people you know and like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:52 PM
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Yes. It’s not vulnerability I care about (in fact, I need that in a partner), it’s that he did something that goes against my values.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:51 PM
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I would be single after that revelation. I don’t care if we ended up together, jacking off to pictures of people you don’t know like that doesn’t align with my values and I don’t trust he isn’t doing it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:11 AM
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Cry harder? Go somewhere else? Can’t help you. Our rules are super clear. There are many unmoderated online spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:31 PM
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Your comment lacked consideration, tact, and courtesy, violating the insults and civility rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:25 PM
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I went from being 5’5” 135lb “skinnyfat” to 125lb and developed a ton of muscle from pole dancing and rock climbing (I regularly get asked if I’m a pro lifter). My standards did not change. I’m still with the same man (who is 5’7”). His body didn’t change, in fact he’s gained ten pounds since we met and is in solid “dad bod” mode. I think it’s hot, he’s hot and men that look like him are hot. My self perceived level of attractiveness doesn’t impact who or what body types I’m into or go after. I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:06 PM
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Please be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:45 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:40 PM
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I think we will have to agree to disagree that the peace of mind of the father and the health of the child are not equally important and we have very different ideas about what a baby needs at birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:32 PM
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I don’t think this conversation is about why paternity tests are a waste of money and should not be mandatory anymore. I’m disengaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:28 PM
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“Yup, the baby can’t hear” is a much different test from “what sounds can’t they hear? What pitches, volumes, frequencies?”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:25 PM
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Hearing issues and deafness are huge and life changing health issues. It is not a waste to understand the extent an infant has hearing loss. Wow. Adding an extra blood panel test and drawing the father’s blood adds non-negligible costs to an already expensive medical procedure (birth).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:12 PM
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You seemed to be leaning towards the point that a paternity test can help identify health issues in an infant, it doesn’t and I want to be sure we agree on that. Health testing is never a waste, I feel that’s obvious even for “non fatal things” like lifelong deafness. I think OP has a point that an extra test that doesn’t do anything for the infant of the health adds unnecessary costs to birth. They should be freely available imo, but not mandatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:58 PM
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The birth defects listed are either extremely obvious upon birth or are easily caught with other testing. None of those birth defects require a paternity test. The article you linked states what tests are needed and none of them are genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:51 PM
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Genetic health testing is already done by this point. That’s a common test during pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:43 PM
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Those all sound like solely health related tests to ensure the infant doesn’t need follow up care. Do any mandatory tests exist that aren’t specifically to measure the health of the infant?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:33 PM
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I’ve long abandoned this debate and resigned myself to quiet schadenfreude when men run into this wall with most women they meet. You don’t have to agree with us, you can either be by yourself or premeditate an act of betrayal against the woman you claim you love most by doing it behind her back. I hope that works out for yall.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:25 PM
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There are objective and subjective traits that are deeply unappealing. Having an addiction issue and being so shy you can’t hold a conversation are objective barriers to social connection. Being an asshole conservative or being too tall (in my case) are unappealing subjective traits that some women would love. Focus on fixing objective barriers first
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:38 PM
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No they don’t because adult women don’t look like kids, but it’s still a striking difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:49 AM
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I’m a kinkster, so not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:49 AM
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I wouldn’t be a very good moderator or contributor if I wasn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:11 AM
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My hot take is that women do fetishize height. It’s a nonsexual trait they’ve sexualized and pursue with a strange frenzy. I’m not one of them, but yeah, it’s a fetish to only be attracted to a very specific physical attribute. Race fetishes, disability fetishes, hair fetishes all play into this, people are just ashamed to label it as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:10 AM
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Find someone who is attracted to shorter men exclusively? You’re entering fetish territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:06 AM
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I’d just like to add my two cents that I have never dated a man taller than 5’8. I prefer my short kings. Build > height any day of the week
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:02 AM
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…should I be taking notes?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:27 PM
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lol it’s been kinky gay sex, I think the kink part comes from me blindfolding and spanking them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:04 PM
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I think speaking in absolutes is a little silly. I’ve enjoyed expanding my sexual and intellectual horizons among people well versed in consent and alternative lifestyle etiquette, but people gonna kink shame no matter what
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:52 PM
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Correct. Have you never heard “don’t judge a book by its cover?”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:32 PM
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I mean, I’m enjoying copious amounts of lesbian sex so I may not be touching grass but I’m living life to the fullest
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:30 PM
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I’m autistic and miss social cues and sarcasm frequently. I know what being an idiot looks like—it’s bumbling, it’s making bad jokes, it’s awkward silences. I’ve got secondhand embarrassment and the older sister in me wants to take them aside and be like “dude, just so you know…” A creep has a palpable aura of horniness, entitlement, and deliberate ignorance to social cues (like me leaning away). I can see them evaluating other targets in the space and watch them get bounced from the group. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:28 PM
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It makes me wonder what some of these men think “love” is. It appears to be a spontaneous emotion that arrives and exits with erections.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:23 PM
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This sentence doesn’t make sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:19 PM
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3 and 4. If we have nothing in common there’s no point for me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:19 PM
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I’ve been gone so long I got to touch grass and join the kink scene. Life is good, hope yall are well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:05 PM
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because he actually loves you He doesn’t love me, he doesn’t know me. He saw what he liked and wanted more of me, whatever that may be for him. If he thinks he loves me before even speaking to me, that’s significantly worse. Being hit on by a creepy guy feels like danger. The hair on the back of my neck stands up. I feel his eyes on intimate parts of my body as he’s asking my name and if I come here often. I shudder when he touches the small of my back in an overfamiliar way. I lean away, and he…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:58 PM
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You are more likely to be struck by lightning than you are to be falsely accused of rape. 1/3 of women experience a sexual assault in their lives. A bit of a false equivalency, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:36 PM
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You don’t “use” your dentist, or your doctor or your masseuse or your physical therapist. You visit someone that provides a service. You use an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:41 PM
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You don’t get to ignore the extremely negative outcomes that are (VERY) possible when seeking out sex as a woman. It’s well known that a huge percentage of women experience sexual assault or rape in their lives. I don’t think that outweighs the “privilege” of men wanting to fuck us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:31 PM
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She said that women are being used by men as a means to an end for their own pleasure. It’s not a privilege to want to be fucked by someone that doesn’t make us feel good (theoretically the main thing that casual sex should offer)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:28 PM
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In women’s case, drinking our unlimited supply of carrot juice exposes us to the following risks: unwanted pregnancy STI meeting a partner that does not care about our ability to stop drinking carrot juice meeting a partner that does not care about making us feel good while drinking carrot juice, thus ruining the experience even if we enjoy carrot juice shame from society about drinking our unlimited supply We have to balance a lot of risk in order to access this endlessly wonderful “resource” (…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:15 PM
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The OG study is gone when you follow the link
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:58 PM
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I’m would not sleep with a virgin as a 24 year old and can’t ever see an exception to that rule. I’m very concerned he would have an “I want to sleep around and get experience” moment at some point which is fair but I have no interest in setting myself up for that outcome. I don’t want there to be any resentment about my body count which seems to be inevitable in these cases. I don’t want to have to teach verbal/nonverbal consent, foreplay, pacing, positions, the whole nine yards. It’s exhaustin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:05 PM
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Hahahahahhahahahahah no men don’t think that logically. Half of the sub participants are literally proud to be spinning plates and refusing to commit because they’re bitter and emotionally stunted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:49 PM
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Yep, hence why I don’t argue anymore when they try to pay for me. I’m not going to split the bill when you’re lying to my face
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:16 PM
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As long as the man I’m dating is being upfront about his intentions and doesn’t plan on a pump and dump, I’m all for it. I have split in the past by default and it upset my dates, who thought I was disinterested and I had to clarify.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:27 PM
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They’ll still happen and/or society will collapse. You don’t get to have pro life policies AND live in stable late stage capitalism
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:37 AM
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Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:14 AM
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Okay so anyways trump is a rapist in the eyes of a federal United States court and no amount of your hysterics will change that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:53 PM
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So if a legal entity that decides what trump actually did doesn’t have the authority to decide what rape is, who does? You! Lmfao. Yes, sexual assault and rape are equally bad. They’re not equally severe but I don’t want a man who does either as president and this conversation is actually fucking insane goodbye
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:48 PM
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A judge decided what the definition of rape is, that’s why I quoted it. Feel free to ignore facts but it does make you seem very emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:40 PM
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It’s comically evil to downplay what being sexually assaulted is like, consider saying that to your mom and see what she thinks. “Ass cupping” isn’t what happened to Jean Carroll. It was much worse. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll_v._Donald_J._Trump
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:33 PM
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The law doesn’t define morality is my point. Abortion is an amoral medical procedure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:41 PM
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The law is infamously not to be equated with morality. We legally burned witches at the stake and lynched black men. Women have always used abortion as birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:31 PM
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Nvidia, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:28 PM
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Abortion is an old, old medical procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:28 PM
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Adoption does not consider the trauma of pregnancy and risk of death at birth. Pregnancy and birth are not a trivial temporary inconvenience, it is life and death to us. It’s okay if you think women are just incubators, you can say that. willingly put in a position of dependence No I didn’t. I didn’t willingly do shit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:26 PM
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“Real” victim here! He is a rapist
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:24 PM
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To me sexual assault and rape are the same thing with the same outcome. Rapist is a fine word to use to me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:24 PM
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Because a sexual assaulter, fraud, known liar is…better than rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:32 PM
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Seems the human race will die out if men don’t figure it out then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:20 PM
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How does this apply to childfree people like me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:15 PM
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I’m 24 but would happily die surrounded by friends instead of a life partner I resented. Settling is the worst of both worlds
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:12 PM
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The gap between genders in terms of political compatibility is getting wider. Women have standards, men seem to have none if they feel they have no options
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:07 PM
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possible reasons Also known as hypothetical, aka you made it up. He made a series of terrible choices and she’s not responsible for any of it. She’s 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:54 PM
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Grateful every day that I’m surgically sterile and volunteer in abortion networks. I can’t imagine the sick pleasure you get out of inflicting an unwanted child on a woman because it’s her “responsibility.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:52 PM
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You are projecting so much onto this situation it’s wild. You’re making up reasons for him to be justified in his emotional response, and nothing can justify this level of rage and hatred towards a woman that told him no
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:48 PM
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If you genuinely believed abortion was murder you wouldn’t be in favor of exceptions. The source you linked acknowledges that the biological definition of life doesn’t answer the ethical question of the value society places on a fetus. For me and millions of other women it’s fucking none and you have no right to tell me what I have to do with my body. Women have been self aborting since the dawn of time (if nothing else to remove miscarried fetuses) and the practice must continue if you would li…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:43 PM
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Ah no not quite, you made stuff up to derail a conversation about how men as a whole lack empathy and commit most violent crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:35 PM
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Is this a justification of attempted murder? Not sure how else to interpret your comment. Even if all of that is true and worse, I’m not sure the punishment is death.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:34 PM
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I don’t know why you’d be hysterical and deny facts if you aren’t being emotional. I made a sound point and you made it about men inventing stuff. Wild lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:28 PM
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People drive with seatbelts every day and still get badly hurt. We don’t deny them care just because they engaged in an activity that has risk. murder of an innocent third party Fetuses are not alive, cannot develop without literally leeching life from its host, and do not have rights. Hope this helps!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:23 PM
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accomplishes literally nothing Well now you’re just being emotional. Facts don’t care about your feelings lol, violence and the distrust we hold for each other is definitely slowly destroying our society and men cause most of the violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:21 PM
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It’s so so funny to me that “men invented everything” is the only gotcha men seem to have in conversations like these. I appreciate men’s intellect…obviously? But violence and lack of compassion is quite literally the death of civilization. We stop being humans when we tear each other apart (physically and mentally) like animals. Have some nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:16 PM
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Making more money is always good. You don’t make less by moving into a higher tax bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:14 PM
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I’m childfree and I don’t care what happens to our species. My personal opinion is that men’s lack of empathy and propensity for violence has held us down as a species and will be our downfall.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:41 PM
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I call my girl friends my girlfriends because that’s what they are and I have called all of my past partners (of any gender) my partner
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:37 PM
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This is so comically incorrect? Do you know what property taxes and marginal income tax brackets are and how they work?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:34 PM
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Im not fucking reading all that lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:31 PM
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Feminists don’t belittle or harass people, there are some women who belittle and harass people that happen to be feminists. If we’re straw manning, I also don’t want to date a man that thinks my greatest aspiration in life is to be pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen. I agree that values, namely treating human beings with empathy and compassion makes or breaks a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:29 PM
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Yes? Do you need help understanding words?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:27 PM
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You wasted an ungodly amount of money investing in a “the world is ending” asset when you could have almost tripled your return by just investing in the s&p from early 2020, and that generously includes the skyrocketing value of gold in 2020. But whatever helps you sleep at night. Your risk tolerance makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:26 PM
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it’s only ever made a long term profit Woah, one of the most critical and precious asset types in the world is profitable? Warren buffet could learn something from you Enjoy your insane capital gains tax on your portfolio that is definitely not actually in the black rn lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:17 PM
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Gold and silver, notorious for being the safety asset when the stock market tanks, would not be jumping in value rn. Dunno why that surprises you. What is your return? Asset allocation? Are you aware crypto trading is literal gambling?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:11 PM
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I know, I have a finance and econ degree. I’m waiting to see what magic this stock monkey thinks he’s working
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:09 PM
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Internally cringing at all the women saying this matters and they won’t compromise and all the men going “I don’t give a shit unless she’s a shrill feminazi” god our species is fucking doomed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:08 PM
2

It’s not about only abortion anymore it’s pretty obviously about a man making decisions of all sorts over a woman he thinks he’s entitled to control. How the fuck else are we supposed to interpret “my choice”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:03 PM
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It’s a little worse when teenage girls are coming home from school crying that boys are shouting that phrase at them. It’s the new catchphrase for men who don’t get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:02 PM
2

What’s your return and how has it changed since the results came in
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:58 PM
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do you think that person (man) is out there Yes do you expect to meet them Yes, I’m pretty confident given my life circumstances and location would you settle No. Not for political beliefs, not for looks, not for anything. Settling is accepting the death of your relationship before it even begins and I’m in no rush to find my person
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:56 PM
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It’s whataboutism which is a very basic logical fallacy. It’s exhausting because you’re playing whack a mole and can’t finish a particular argument or point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:11 AM
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Human beings don’t expire until they die hope this helps
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:51 AM
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He was found liable for defaming her by claiming she was lying, hence the court found the truth that he more likely than not did rape/commit SA. I’m ngl, rape or sexual assault are behaviors I look for in elected officials so I don’t particularly care what language is used to describe his actions. You’re correct he wasn’t convicted for rape. You’d have to be an extremely deranged single issue voter for this to actually have swayed your vote. What is this, the anti feminist false accusation phobi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:26 PM
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It was proved to be true in a civil court. I know preponderance of evidence is a lower threshold of proof than beyond a reasonable doubt, but a court decided it was more likely than not true that trump did rape at least one person. Trump won for a variety of reasons, I don’t think this is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:14 PM
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Maybe this is just a skill issue, but I work a 9-5 office job, have an active social life, and have a hobby that takes up most of my weekday evenings and I still find time to engage with politics the same way we’re both on a gender debate subreddit. You make time for things you care about–if you got hot and suddenly stopped caring about something that impacts you directly, that’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:37 PM
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This is insanely out of touch bordering on narcissistic lmfao. I also pull and politics still matter to me a lot, as it does to my hot friends. “Too busy being hot” is literally flair worthy derangement
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:30 PM
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make their entire identity about a few issues My understanding is that the people in question are being upfront about their values (which is an important aspect of identity), not taking a stand for the sake of it. I’m not really friends with “apolitical” people because I think they’ve got a single brain cell pinging around like a pinball but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:12 PM
3

This is why I love drunkenly grilling the men that want to hook up with me on their beliefs. Conservatives can’t reason their way out of a paper bag especially when they’re thinking with their dick. Not all women care as much as I do though and that’s their prerogative
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:08 PM
3

The elderly are far and away the most vulnerable and genuinely exploited group online. They also tend to have the most to lose and have lost some of their capacity to reason in addition to just not understanding modern tech. It’s infantalizing to claim men are somehow more vulnerable than people who don’t know how to use the internet and are in cognitive decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:06 PM
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Maybe this is just the circles I run in, but my extremely hot alt friends are pretty strict about filtering out conservatives both on apps and irl. I can’t imagine anyone with two brain cells to rub together think political compatibility doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:56 PM
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It’s never made sense to me either but people love to bitch about reaping what they’ve sewn. Values inform political beliefs and I would never date someone or even have a ONS with a man that thinks I don’t deserve to have autonomy over my own body (among other things).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:51 PM
3

Is the takeaway here that hot people are shallow and out of touch with their own values or that mid and below people are overly obsessed with filtering out those that have incompatible values
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:50 PM
1

My father was an amazing single dad. He and my mother had an extremely messy divorce and it took a toll on him, but he spent all of his time and energy on making sure we had everything I needed. By the time I (the oldest) was a senior in high school he introduced us to his now wonderful second wife, who also has children. They’re happy, their kids are happy, I had the support I needed as teenager while my mom drank herself into liver failure. Are you telling me he should have stayed with someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:15 PM
1

We are entirely off topic from the original post, if he was going to gotcha all the replies with this question he should have made a separate post. You can usually tell even with a post op trans woman. Ask me how I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:10 AM
1

Many things can be passed through a variety of orifices despite a condom. You’re being ridiculous if you’re trying to argue you’re not putting your partner at risk by cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 10:03 PM
1

I think cheating especially serial cheating is a form of abuse—at the bare minimum, you’re exposing your partner to someone else’s body (and they clearly don’t care about boundaries). You’re welcome to disagree but that’s a line for me
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:05 PM
2

That sounds like he was cheating on her if she was under the impression they were exclusive. Then your question becomes “is cheating abuse”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:05 PM
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Yes, but your post is about men and not trans women so I’m not sure why that’s relevant. Also, it becomes pretty obvious she lied once the clothes come off—in the hypothetical you posed that isn’t possible. This is just a language suggestion for clarity: “if a trans woman lies about her transition status then…” Transness isn’t a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:03 PM
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It’s not sexual violence or abuse. It’s a massive violation of consent and shows a deep, intrinsic disrespect/disregard for the person he is sleeping with. I would argue he’s a bad person. Unfortunately this has happened to enough people I know that I actually make dudes show me their ID and we have to be connected on social media to reasonably prove singleness. It’s not surefire but it helps, and I’ve never been told no. Edit: I just saw the context of your post. If a man is lying about wanting…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:00 PM
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Completely understandable. Your choice has no impact on me and you have every right to sit back. As long as you truly understand women (mostly) don’t approach and you’ll probably remain single, go for it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:50 PM
2

Your mentality is hugely different in that you don’t think being cheated on is inevitable/a universal fact of dating a woman. Your attitude that there’s nothing you can do is correct and healthy as long as you aren’t resigned to it and simply leave if it happened
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:28 PM
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Seek therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:55 PM
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I stand by this being a bullshit premise. For how conservative ppd men are they really seem to advocate for policies that create higher taxes and more government involvement in the lives of families.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:49 PM
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Keep your cuck kink out of my discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 11:46 PM
6

If this is how you really feel then why even bother with dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:06 PM
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Nobody can really expect a perfect partner but that’s very different from demanding they change a significant part of who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:05 PM
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I’m 24, solidly genz. Being short is not a death sentence, I promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:51 PM
2

Sounds like you should buy a lottery ticket because it’s a goddamned epidemic Jealous of your penis I guess lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:07 PM
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STD speedrun any %
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:01 PM
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Yuck. I don’t know how someone can feel so self important that he’d impose himself on someone he knows is taken. Who in their right mind would in that moment dump their partner in the middle of their workplace and go with him lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:50 PM
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Persistent = has consent and boundary issues imo
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:48 PM
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5’5, we met on tinder. He had his height in his bio because he was so used to being rejected after matching and chatting for a while and it was wasting his time. I think it’s how most view us honestly I know it’s true and it’s infuriating to me. Some of the best, most attractive, kindest, funniest men I’ve ever had the pleasure of knowing were quite short (again under 5’8) and I think women as a whole are missing out on a lot of great potential partners. My contribution to solving this problem i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:46 PM
1

🤝🏻🤝🏻 you get me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:40 PM
1

Well, I was quite rude to him so I hope he’s discouraged from doing it in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:38 PM
1

I was hoping there could be literally any other explanation but it seems not. Gross
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:37 PM
1

We exist. I’ve met several other women IRL who feel the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:37 PM
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LMAOOOOOOOOO no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:35 PM
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Not that much taller? 5’8-9? Fwiw I’ve never dated a man taller than 5’8 I highly prefer short kings
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:15 PM
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Ohhh okay I’ve heard of the concept I didn’t realize it had a term. I was quite mean to the guy because I’m confident he knew he was intruding on my relationship, I just don’t get why he did it in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:11 PM
2

Slightly taller than me (5ft 6), very alt tattooed dark eyes dark hair, muscular
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:09 PM
1

Could you explain what that is? Not familiar with the term
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:08 PM
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I don’t know about you but I was happy with my status before I entered a relationship and I don’t need “consistent dick,” nor do most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:07 PM
3

Just visited my partner at his job and as I was leaving (after kissing him openly) another man approached me asking for my number (he definitely saw the kiss). PPD men explain this
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:02 PM
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This is narcissistic mental illness: assuming an entire sex, billions of peoples behavior is for the sake of men. Insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:01 PM
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Proof that men don’t see women as people and simply a means to an end—status and consistent pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:57 PM
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If you think most taken women are being regularly pressured into cheating on their partner in the club you are being paranoid to the point of mental illness. 99% of single women are very supportive of their friends’ relationships and would never even encourage cheating behavior, much less pressure it. Someone who thinks this clearly doesn’t go dancing often.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:55 PM
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Allow me to correct your perspective since I am actually a queer woman: it’s because who we are and how we dress is not a constant advertisement for the “next best fuck.” Gay women understand this. Anyways, what you said is so wildly homophobic we are done here! Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:27 PM
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your average guy can’t Skill issue lmao, makes sense that he’s average. Whatever men say about gatekeeping access to relationships, I’ve never had to beg or convince or change myself to get the relationship I want. Be worth dating and people who want to date you will find you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:25 PM
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It’s impossible to convince some men that the world doesn’t revolve around them and that women don’t exist to appease or appeal to them. I promise you women don’t give a shit what you think, we live lives outside of your little world. I think your head would blow off your shoulders trying to explain why lesbians also dress in flattering clothes and go clubbing and post on instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:18 PM
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That’s exactly my point. If a man doesn’t like how I behave, I wouldn’t waste my valuable time convincing him I’m worth dating anyways. I want a man (and have one) who is content with who I am and how I behave now. If he started dating me knowing exactly who I am and then expected me to change, he would be single faster than he could get the words out. If you, as a man, don’t like women who do xyz abc 123, don’t date them when you see them display those behaviors or personality traits. Find your…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:11 PM
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You assume that everything women do is for attention. We wear flattering clothes and post on instagram and go clubbing because we like it, not because we want to show off for men and we’re so desperately hoping he will pick us 🥺🥺🥺 Yall are delusional. Women don’t care what you think and we won’t date men that insist we change who we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:07 PM
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The act of dating other people cannot be compared to lifestyle choices and personality traits. Going to a bar is not the same thing as bouncing on dick. Wearing a tank top is not the same thing as hitting on guys. Hanging out with friends is not the same thing as seeing sex workers. Hope this helps!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:59 PM
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The replies are going about as poorly as I expected. Of course PPD men expect women to change who they are/who they hang out with/how they spend their time/how they dress once they enter a relationship—relationships are about control to them. I have zero friends that changed their lives once they got a man and their relationships are all stable and happy. Wonder what makes yall so insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:55 PM
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It is impossible to convince IQ obsessed freaks that intelligence takes many forms and can be measured more or less accurately based on many factors including your background and communication style, so I’m not going to bother with that. It can provide a general idea of someone’s cognitive abilities, but it should not be used as a status symbol or define what you can do with your life. Science as an institution only relies on numbers because it’s difficult to assess someone’s overall intelligenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:50 PM
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The law discriminates against people capable of carrying—functionally this means human females. It is discrimination against a specific sex by denying them access to a specific kind of birth control. If you think this law won’t make women’s lives worse, you’ve got your head in the sand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:21 PM
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there are no laws in western nations that discriminate against women Not sure where you live, but in the US women just explicitly had their right to reproductive care taken from them at a federal level. That’s pretty obvious discrimination a woman just has to move states Not every woman can afford that That fact doesn’t mean the law isn’t explicitly discriminatory
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:54 PM
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Sorry, are you genuinely arguing that the only thing standing between our society and true anarchism are liberal feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:53 PM
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Completely agree, I appreciate you being able to articulate the nuance I couldn’t. It’s hard to watch a “high IQ” man in conversation miss an empathetic angle because he never learned how to reframe problems in an emotional capacity
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:44 PM
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What’s great about self love and self acceptance is that it’s entirely internal. It doesn’t matter what other people say or think about you or loving yourself or being happy with who you are, all that matters is how you feel. Constantly externalizing our self worth is one of the great modern pitfalls and it’s our responsibility to control the things we can—how we treat ourselves. If you’ve ever had any therapy, you would know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:37 PM
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Disclaimer: I think IQ is a deeply flawed (arguably completely broken) metric of intelligence and I only use “IQ” to describe a person’s overall ability to think critically, reason, problem solve and retain information. IQ is useless without social intelligence and EQ in the context of dating. Some people may specifically value the trait of intelligence, but I don’t think it matters how many advanced mathematical concepts you understand or how many languages you speak if you can’t carry a conver…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:23 PM
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You’ve completely missed what OP is talking about. Like, not even close. This is about loving and liking yourself, even if others aren’t falling over themselves to take you out. Self worth and self image can and should be entirely independent of the validation you receive from others. This serves two purposes: Your self worth is entirely self generated and cannot be damaged by others not showing interest You aren’t shoeboxing yourself into the life or partner you think you deserve based on your …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:11 PM
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“Wah, women don’t want to be on birth control anymore.” “Wah, condoms can get holes poked in them on purpose” You are paranoid to the point of mental illness. If you can’t find one of the millions and millions of women that use condoms or hormonal birth control, perhaps you were just not meant to have sex. Bummer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:52 PM
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You already shot down condoms, pill birth control, and vasectomies. It seems if you don’t want kids you need to keep it in your pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:43 PM
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They’re called fallopian tubes. I’d recommend understanding our anatomy if you’re going to try to speak authoritatively on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:03 PM
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Then close your legs? Not sure why you wanting kids in the future is your current partners problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:02 PM
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I was raised to only ever rely on myself. I’m very independent and pay for all my own bills, and some of my partners’ needs as well. I love being a provider/“wearing the pants”/making decisions for the both of us—he’s happy to contribute as needed and loves the dynamic. Type A/provider women are out there, but in my experience many men strongly dislike my desire to lead and either fight me on it or leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:01 PM
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2017 was 7 years ago, before a significant inflationary period during the pandemic. if you think $460/mo is enough to cover an absent father you are the bullshitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 11:19 AM
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The only guy I’ve made wait was an age gap situation. I was 22 and he was 28 and I wanted to sus out his intentions and vibe. It paid off and I had a pretty good short term relationship (~6 months) with him. Every other guy I’ve either stopped seeing them as soon as I realized I didn’t want to continue or escalated within 2-3 dates to great success.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:03 PM
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Every day we edge closer to state mandated girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:49 PM
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A fetus is not a child and is not alive, it has no rights. Hope this helps!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:48 PM
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That’s punishing the child, not the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:41 PM
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We have a very different definition of “life.” If my dad was laying on his couch and wasn’t breathing, could not feed himself, speak, sleep, or move, I would assume he’s dead. Human development begins at conception, but until a fetus can survive without using the resources of its mother’s body it makes no sense to call it “living” in any practical sense. they could have chosen adoption I find it incredible you’re arguing that one of the most poorly funded, overworked, overcrowded and abusive sys…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:31 PM
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I think this system would only make sense in a world where the government had all men’s genetic data, such that if a man was proven to not be the father then the real father is immediately identified and on the hook for CS. Realistically, I think it’s reasonable for the test to be freely available at birth but not mandatory. Couples have the choice to customize their birth experience in radical ways, why is the only mandatory birth practice a paternity test?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:23 PM
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I’m talking about children—they are alive and are actively suffering from parents that never wanted them and had no other choice. Pro forced birth women are generally much more concerned with their welfare, whereas pro forced birth men literally gloat about how miserable the new moms life is with a child “because she couldn’t keep her legs shut.” Fetuses are not children and have no rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:15 PM
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I think you underestimate how expensive it is to feed, clothe, house, educate, provide healthcare, and raise millions of children for their entire childhood. The average cost to raise an American child to adulthood is $250,000. We can barely care for our elders, what on earth makes you think our social systems can handle the 14.7 million children currently living in households receiving child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:49 PM
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A) loaded question, there is no response I can give that you would accept. You have already decided what my opinion is it seems. B) men’s child support is not included in the state budget, I have no idea what you’re saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:41 PM
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This dude called me a cum guzzler and murder mommy and you’re concerned about me making a masturbation joke? Maybe you should take “recovering” out of your recovering incel flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:39 PM
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This is the adult equivalent of pounding your fists on the ground and screaming “YOU CANT MAKE ME!!” and frankly it’s fucking embarrassing. Yes, we can make you and we will. Be responsible for your own spawn or the government will take your money and give it to your ex partner by force.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:38 PM
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Our society and workforce has changed a lot since the 60s. It was structured to revolve around men, now it’s largely egalitarian and there are much more equal workforce participation rates. If all the fertile women slowly disappeared from the workforce over the next decade due to falling pregnant and having to care for children it would be economically devastating—who will fill the jobs women left open? There aren’t enough men to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:36 PM
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Innate biological differences have created this problem. I support a woman’s right to choose an abortion or to carry the child—I support a man’s right to have at least some opinion in the matter and support his right to abort his parental rights. However, financial abortion is unfeasible without straining our social safety nets. It’s more unfair to the child to deny them financial safety than it is unfair to the father to force him to provide financially for said child. If men could carry and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:08 PM
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It is not controlling a man’s bodily autonomy to require him to care for the children he created.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:05 PM
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Fathers must pay additional taxes to the government if he is not already paying child support. The government is run with our money, it only makes sense that the parents of the spawn are financially responsible for them. they are not entitled to be treated equally by their father Yes they are, both in the eyes of the law and in the eyes of Western values. I’m sorry your dad didn’t love you or whatever but that doesn’t mean our society should operate that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:52 PM
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If a woman wants to keep the child, she would be responsible for part of the financial burden and all of the childcare. I don’t see how that is opting out of all responsibility, in fact quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:37 PM
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This is quite literally medieval. All this would do is dramatically increase single parenthood, child food and housing insecurity, child mortality, overall crime rates, and strain the social safety nets to their breaking point. Children are entitled to food, housing, quality schooling and healthcare. Why bother with civilized society if we refuse to protect our most vulnerable? So men can get their nut?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:36 PM
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You’re confusing their reasoning. These men think abortion is wrong in all cases and want women to be responsible for preventing pregnancy by “closing their legs.” I think men should be allowed to opt out of parenthood, but not out of financial responsibility for their care. Children don’t deserve to suffer because their father wasn’t ready to be a dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:21 PM
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That would not be a society, we would be no better than animals at that point. Children are completely defenseless and to punish them for the perceived sins of their parents is inhuman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:19 PM
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Gawddamn, I’ve never seen such a bold faced acknowledgment that men are soulless, unempathetic opportunists that see children as expendable/disposable property and tools to manipulate the women around you. Most honest redpiller tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:08 PM
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Tell that to the forced birthers agreeing with you in the rest of the comments, lol. You’re appealing to a group of men that want to take absolutely zero responsibility for creating children while reaping the benefits of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:41 PM
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Men scream about how women won’t fuck them but will turn around and continue screaming when we do have sex. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. I am so grateful I cannot physically have children and get to guzzle all the cum I want. At the end of the day, you’re the one with your dick in your hand posting hateful shit on Reddit lol You’ve inspired me to change my fair to murder mommy that’s objectively fucking hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:40 PM
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You brought up that voters elect elected officials, I’m just pointing out that our electoral system is fundamentally skewed towards a party that consistently loses the popular vote. You can’t claim that most people want conservative politicians because it’s objectively untrue, even if they have occasionally “won” elections.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:39 PM
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This is my own personal experience interacting with conservative men and women directly. The women I’ve interacted with were often mothers themselves and understand the importance of treating children like the valuable gift they are—men have no qualms with treating them like a divine punishment to women who dare enjoy a natural human activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:37 PM
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If you didn’t think sex was shameful, you wouldn’t be telling women to keep their legs closed, end of story. Of any non economic issue the liberal platform could have picked up, I’m glad it was reproductive care. The other side of the aisles’ culture war issues boil down to immigrants eating pets and getting upset about the gender of high school athletes, so at least we have an issue of actual relevancy to our constituents. Democrats can care about abortion and other issues at the same time, I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:35 PM
2

Well, you brought it up. If a federally elected president didn’t nominate pro forced birth judges, the senate wouldn’t be able to confirm them. Our electoral system is rigged by gerrymandering, because conservatives know their policies are unpopular and won’t win without manipulating district boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:58 PM
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People aren’t going to stop having sex because you think it’s shameful. This has been proven over and over and over throughout all kinds of societies throughout all of human history—you cannot scare or shame most humans into not doing something that feels good and we’re hardwired to do. Modern medicine has made it easier than ever to make choices about when to have children and how to build families, and embracing that will only have good outcomes for women, wives, and families everywhere. No, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:48 PM
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This is unfortunately accurate. I have seen many people of both genders but men in particular consider a child to be a “punishment” for women that had sex. I feel terrible for the child that will be born into immense poverty and suffering because it was never wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:39 PM
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Republicans have lost the popular vote in nearly every federal election this century. If your argument is that most Americans voted for the republicans in office that are reducing access to abortion via legislative action and judicial appointments, you’re wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:38 PM
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I’m not just talking about the casual dating scene, this applies just as much or more to steady/long term relationships. Most women accessing abortion services already have at least one child. unwanted pregnancy is entirely preventable No it’s not and it’s laughable you even tried to claim that is true. Typical use rates for most contraceptives are about 90% successful at best. In addition, thanks to recent fuckass conservative policy changes there are a couple major private insurers that are al…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:33 PM
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Women having the ability to choose when they have children is a pretty critical component of a successful industrialized society. If women lose access to that, our workforce and societal structure would be decimated within a decade. Also, this is just as much about men being able to fuck whenever they want. If women know they can’t get an abortion if needed, many will stop having sex and you’re going to bitch and whine about that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:20 PM
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I’m 100% honest if asked but don’t volunteer the information, nor would I ever ask. My rule is as long as you’re STD free and have never cheated/been an accessory to cheating, your past doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:26 PM
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Depending on the wave of feminism, each had their own goal. I would say first wave (legal and political rights for women in the 19th and early 20th centuries) was pretty successful in Western societies. Almost every wave after has only partially accomplished its goals and success varies hugely depending on the religious and cultural background of the society in question. My definition of the goal of feminism is “true equity and equality for women of all creeds and backgrounds, enabling them to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:19 PM
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None, because patriarchy and capitalism are deeply interconnected systems of controlling/suppressing the population. Any society that has a capitalist economic system will struggle badly to eradicate all types of identity based oppression, because capitalism thrives on inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:03 PM
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Mental illness is a normal human experience. That doesn’t mean it shouldnt be challenged and addressed. Valuing sheer volume of attention over something that would actually be good for you is a sign you have thought patterns that need to be addressed. Cognitive behavioral therapy is a great start for that. it isn’t our fault Take a look at who created this system. If you’re going to bring up whose “fault” this is (which I don’t care about but you seem to) then you need to look in the mirror. Edi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:39 PM
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All I can think of after reading this post is one of my best friends who was raped by her own father from the age of 6-10. I’m wracking my brain as to how that was somehow her fault and keep coming back to OP just hates women and wants men to escape responsibility for causing their suffering. Comically, diabolically evil
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:35 PM
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Men post shit like this and then wonder why they’re dying alone in droves
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:22 PM
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You’ve described insecurity and mental illness. I’m not surprised men as a whole aren’t finding life partners if all they care about is tons of low quality attention
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:21 PM
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How is this even a debate? I’m there to find a life partner, not reassurance that tons of men want me. Better quality all the way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:47 PM
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Hell no. I wish my parents had divorced way earlier and my late childhood/early adolescence really suffered for it. Being shuffled between homes and the messiness of the divorce sucked, but it was better than watching my parents scream and throw dishes at each other and hit us when they were frustrated. Their divorce also forced us into court mandated therapy, which did wonders for their communication and emotional regulation skills and gave me the space I needed to process the trauma of witness…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:03 PM
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Unemployed, goes out every weekend, having kids with someone else, having an improperly calibrated “dark sense of humor” (read the fucking room sometimes), wanting kids someday, and gets into fights are all immediate dealbreakers. Some of them aren’t red flags necessarily, but it would make them incompatible with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:53 PM
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I don’t think there’s any one “correct” way to show love to each other. I would find a love note flattering and romantic, but I would consider a freshly drawn bath and a new candle just as flattering and romantic. Love languages are mostly debunked but acts of service (both giving and receiving) really resonates with me. My partner knows he is loved and vice versa—so what if we’ve never exchanged love letters?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:17 PM
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My personal belief is your partner should be one of your best friends. I treat him like a friend and he does the same, but we thrive with an even deeper connection. Thoughtfulness and compassion are the basis of any relationship, romantic or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 09:00 PM
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When I ask my partner to be romantic, I’m asking him to do/say something thoughtful that appeals to my love languages (yes they’re fake but they’re a helpful starting point) and shows he cares for me. Examples: grab me my favorite candy bar on the way home from work, do a chore of mine that I’ve been dreading, offer me a back massage, ask me to game with him for the evening. Romantic gestures take many forms, but it’s the thoughtfulness and attention that matters. If my partner tried to take me …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:15 PM
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4 is the main reason I stop myself in certain situations, especially when alcohol is involved. Otherwise I’ve had great success approaching men and getting quality dates once we’ve had a good in person conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:12 PM
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I’m a 50/50 gal and I’m the breadwinner by a long shot in my current relationship. Happy to practice what I preach but I’ve never been one for “traditional” relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:24 AM
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I prefer a man who has been in therapy and I’d see it as a green flag. It’s not a guarantee he’s a good partner, but he’d hopefully have some important communication and self regulation tools. I would not date a man that needs therapy but refuses it, or a man consistently dumping his issues on me to the point where I feel like his therapist. I want my partner to be open with me and talk about his problems, but there’s a line (this goes both ways)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 11:30 PM
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True, but I make great money on my own and want to set a 50/50 precedent early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 11:17 PM
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There’s a way to be emotionally supportive while also making it clear it doesn’t matter. Treat them the way you would want to be treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 09:10 PM
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If you genuinely believe that all women’s standards are superficial and none care about a man’s social or emotional intelligence, we can’t move forward because we’re not in the same reality. I and every other woman I know cares deeply about a man’s ability to emotionally connect and care for her and the things she cares about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 09:00 PM
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Dealbreaker. I dress well, I expect the same out of my partner. I’ve also noticed men who put very little effort into their appearance don’t have the same standards for the women they want to date in addition to looking out of place in most social situations. I wouldn’t be caught dead with a dri-fit dude in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:29 PM
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Ok grandpa, let’s get you back to bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:22 PM
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“People should ignore what they experience and instead listen to entitled men on Reddit” Sounds like something an entitled man on Reddit would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:21 PM
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I never consumed whatever liberal propaganda you think is being pumped into universities. Bro, do you forget what you comment as soon as you hit post? You have the memory of a goldfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:18 PM
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I have a finance degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:16 PM
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People can experience different benefits and takeaways from the same experience. People who drive to the top of the mountain don’t always want to lie that they hiked it, maybe they just wanted to enjoy the view without doing much work. Oftentimes the value in seeing an escort is sex with a very clear price and very clear boundaries, not pretending you actually bagged a hot woman and faking a confidence boost from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:08 PM
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I have a friend who’s still a virgin at 25 and she treats it like a dark secret because every single time she’s told a man she’s dating about it, he gets obsessive and creepy about “taking her.” She’s desired, but not in the way she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:05 PM
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This just in: people having lives is being brainwashed. LMAOOOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:02 PM
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Again, even more selection bias. People in happy relationships don’t feel the need to post on forums about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:01 PM
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Systemic oppression and privilege are real concepts used to describe people’s true lived experiences. The fact that you can only point to a single woman who literally won the Nobel prize as proof that systemic oppression doesn’t exist is hilarious. 99.999% of women didn’t live like her, hence she’s the only example. What’s next, Annie Oakley? Bonnie from Bonnie and Clyde? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:27 PM
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I prefer to split on the first date anyways because I don’t like a man expecting something from me because he paid for my $5 drink. This scenario sounds absolutely perfect to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:20 PM
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Ok if you’re going to be deliberately obtuse and strawman everything I say then you’re clearly the propagandist. Cheers mate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:17 PM
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The place where people are struggling go to get help? Yeah, of course there will be a higher incidence of abusive and unhealthy dynamics in those posts. Most relationships are not like the ones in relationship subs. Selection bias, extremely simple statistics concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:16 PM
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If every woman disappeared the exact same thing would happen. Losing half the population would devastate any society. Your hypothetical makes no sense and you didn’t address anything I said about those “hard jobs,” either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:11 PM
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literally everything You listed like half a dozen jobs. Yes they’re important and yes they’re dangerous, but: Women still work those jobs, and the gender gap in those fields continues to narrow with every census. Women were traditionally LEGALLY BARRED from working in those jobs, of course it will take time to make it less imbalanced It’s a biological truth that men are stronger and have better reaction times than women. Of course they will take jobs that suit their strengths. The hazards of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:07 PM
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I completely disagree that men with abusive/antisocial tendencies are more successful with women. That’s genuinely an insane take. You didn’t even understand my point. Men only needed money in the past to get a wife because women couldn’t work or be financially independent, thus they had no reason to grow as a person and treat their spouse well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:01 PM
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I wish you would elaborate even once on what “propaganda” you’re referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:57 PM
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My point is the average man is not up to scratch compared to the average woman. Men in the past only needed money to get a wife, now you actually have to be a person worth dating. “Average men” in my opinion are generally not as emotionally or socially intelligent as the average woman (all else being held equal). That’s why average women would prefer to die alone rather than stay with a man that doesn’t meet her needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:56 PM
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why are they undesirable? Because they are bad people? Yes. We’re going in circles now, that’s literally the point of my first comment lmao. being single has 0 reflection on how you are as a person I agree that being single vs taken has no bearing on your moral character, but if you are of poor moral character then you’re more likely to be single. You seem to be deliberately misinterpreting me so I’m done here. Cheers
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:53 PM
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Mmm, so everything I say is propaganda and you have the privilege to say I’m wrong, provide no details or evidence, and bounce. Sounds about right. Gosh, some men are so emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:49 PM
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Elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:46 PM
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“I’m the same gender as my god therefore I deserve all the pussy I want” is the most peak ppd take
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:46 PM
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Are you denying the systemic oppression of women since the dawn of time? I wish I lived in whatever alternate reality you’re in where women have always been equal and never experienced more intimate partner violence and fewer opportunities in life than their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:44 PM
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the number of bad men in relationships hasn’t changed Yes it has, it’s most of the ones screaming about how no women give them the time of day despite having zero social awareness. Objectively fewer men (especially younger ones) are in relationships now because they’re undesirable. Some garbage people will always end up in relationships for whatever reason (being wealthy, wildly attractive, their partner having codependency issues, etc) but it’s pretty obvious that’s no longer the norm because w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:43 PM
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God isn’t real and fortunately you aren’t God either and also you sound insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:39 PM
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If every generalization someone made here had to be true for 100% of the population, everyone would be wrong. Human beings aren’t a monolith, of course some shitty men still get laid and shitty women still get their lives paid for. My point is that overall, women can have higher standards because we don’t have to marry the first man that pays us any attention in order to survive. Ignorant men bitch about how much harder dating is now compared to “the good old days,” back when women had no choice…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:32 PM
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What the fuck does this even mean LMFAOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:26 PM
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Reminder: it’s been less than 3 generations since women couldn’t even have their own bank account. It’s been less than 50 years since women no longer had to rely on men for everything to function and be successful in life. Men have gotten away with being shitty, abusive, neglectful, unkind, lazy partners for nearly all of human history. Ofc NAMALT but we can agree women’s social independence and choice to have actual standards is a relatively new concept. Having to put in more work than previous…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:16 PM
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When someone you care about is killed by a drunk driver, I hope you will understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:44 PM
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Smartest alcoholic lmao. Embarrassing take, this is why everyone thinks Americans are fucking stupid. Hurr durr drunk driving is fine it’s like shoplifting 🤪 driving is so important I should be able to endanger others with impunity 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:15 AM
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DUIs are a huge deal just like driving distracted or tired, they should be a single strike and your license is revoked. Play with other people’s lives and you lose the privilege to drive. Giant metal tanks are not toys
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:39 AM
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Will not be trying that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:28 AM
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Yea, it’s been super helpful giving me tools to manage my anxiety and improve self compassion. It’s free through insurance once I hit my deductible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:33 PM
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Wait drop the sub please? I’m curious now (I love big noses)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:53 PM
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What’re yalls go to snacks? Mostly looking for a midday energy boost and lots of protein. Bonus if vegetarian
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:45 PM
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Is this what’s going through the minds of “alpha” men when they act stupid in public and think women are swooning? LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:28 PM
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How do you suggest that we, as a society, help men be more present fathers when you acknowledged that men abandon their children out of shame when they feel like their “usefulness” as monetary providers isn’t enough? men face problems Men deliberately choosing to abandon their children isn’t a problem society has created, that is an individual choice due to a lack of emotional intelligence and usually feelings of resentment towards the mother of their children. My solution: Men on an individual …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:24 PM
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I would not be me Then don’t do it. Acting extra masculine might attract more of a certain type of woman, but she’ll be able to see/feel your inauthenticity and bounce. Most other women are turned off by men who feel they’re above the rules and assert themselves obnoxiously in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:40 PM
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I agree this is likely a significant driver of fathers abandoning their children, but I don’t think women are at fault for this. Men can fix this by working on their emotional intelligence and taking on more of the emotional work when raising children. Be there to celebrate their achievements and progress, show up to their games, help them with homework. My dad had a rough time adjusting to being our sole caregiver when my mom lost custody of us, but instead of giving up he worked at it and we h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:18 PM
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I have never once thought to care about what wives of athletes are posting. I think posting pictures of minors is in extremely poor taste and dangerous, although I’m at a loss for how to regulate that. personal embarrassing stories of them online as national news That’s a little hyperbolic, don’t you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:28 AM
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That would be true if men’s sole purpose in life was to get laid. Thankfully men are three dimensional human beings capable of self actualization and self respect, so receiving compliments without the intention of getting sex is good for you. I see men all the time talking online about how meaningful the rare compliment from a stranger is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:00 PM
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if you are born a man, everything MUST be for sex Skill issue lmao. Giving and receiving compliments for the sake of kindness and appreciating someone’s physical or mental traits out loud does so much for the human psyche
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:34 PM
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We have a gym in my city that’s sorta explicitly for fitness influencers? There are literally stands for phones already set up and they hold networking sessions for influencers and people looking to film and post workouts. I think there should be more gyms like that, or at least a recording section of normal gyms so people who simply must post their gainz can do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:32 PM
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We were in the middle of the worst recessions in decades in 2009. I think many people’s choice to be pickier is economically driven. Cost of living is up and wages are not keeping up—we can’t take any more financial strain.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:14 PM
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All of my fingers, some of my toes, my ankles and my hips. Occasionally my knee pops
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:09 PM
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I’m not sure how much this will apply to you based on your race and the specific problem you’re trying to solve, but my guy is white and is managing a receding hairline/thinning at the top. He leaves the front alone mostly but he dusts this powder substance through a spray attachment thingy and makes his hair look much fuller. It comes out with every shampoo so every other day? Ngl I imagine this would be hard to apply consistently well on facial hair or really hard lines. It’ll look like dark a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:04 PM
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The guy I’m dating uses this and it works great. Highly recommend
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:41 PM
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I don’t think women expect men they’ve rejected to stay friends. I know a lot are open to it but you’re tilting at windmills here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:55 PM
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I’m not sure what you mean? Do you think women want to be persistently bothered after she rejects someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:31 AM
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This is accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:13 PM
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Dunno if this helps but presentation isn’t always closely tied to gender identity for “gender nonconforming people” (that’s the term). It’s possible for them to enjoy dressing feminine while not internally identifying with womanhood. I respect it but they have to be prepared to get misgendered sometimes and not get upset about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:12 PM
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Bait used to be believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 11:49 AM
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Are you hearing yourself rn? “Silly woman, leave the seducing women to the men. You have no idea what’s good for you.” LMAOOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 01:22 PM
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But you’re just talking out of your ass, since you don’t have any experience. What a silly way to ruin other men’s chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:51 PM
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There is no surefire way to prevent the friend zone. You seem to treat not getting the exact woman you want to like you exactly how you want her to as an injustice the universe must correct. “Waiting too long” is way less of an issue compared to the actual fucking scourge of men who blast you with his shitty lines and uncomfortable touching within minutes of meeting him. It’s easy to tell he has little interest in getting to know me—he has already decided what my value is to him and is now focus…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:43 PM
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If you have no horse in this race what the fuck are you doing dispensing wisdom such as “your advice won’t work” and “it’s better to be rejected quickly”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:13 PM
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Feel free to ignore my advice. I think it is better to be rejected after having made an actual effort and practiced talking to women instead of immediately ruining your chances with the exact shit women say they hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:03 PM
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If you are friendzoned she probably never thought of you that way in the first place. Again, the answer to possibly being friendzoned is not to escalate quickly—you will be rejected altogether. We don’t always get what/who we want, it’s part of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:51 AM
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Middle aged folks are gen X, which are the direct descendants of boomers or are just 5-10 years younger than the last boomers. It makes sense that a lot of the cultural issues of boomers rubbed off on them. Women still had to marry to make it in the “real world”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:48 AM
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Oh nooo, a woman wants to be friends with me instead of bending over for me, the horror! If you are friendzoned, chances are she never thought of you in that way from the jump. I think being friends with a woman is a better outcome than being perceived as a creepy, oversexualized asshole and being publicly rejected. Being friends with women is the main way to improve your social skills anyways, I don’t understand why you think that’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:40 AM
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Please don’t forget that prior to the 70s, women needed men to do something as simple as opening up a bank account, obtaining a credit card, or getting a loan, much less buying a home. Women were institutionally required to depend on men to survive in the adult world. We had to marry whether we liked it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:33 AM
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Get to know a woman without trying anything risky until you have a better sense of who she is and what she may be receptive to. Escalating too quickly is one of the most common mistakes men make, she will be far more forgiving if she actually likes you before you make a silly mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:24 AM
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This post is about how to help socially unskilled men and somehow we’ve taken it back around to how women are the real problem? Not particularly helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:19 AM
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There are some women who are not open to being approached at all, and that’s the risk you take when you approach strangers. This post is about how to help men who are still doing weird shit, so I’m not sure how your response is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:18 AM
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You’re pretty spot on for everything you said. A man’s bruised ego can be an extremely dangerous thing depending on mental health issues and level of intoxication. The most comfortable answer for everyone so far seems to be men learn by watching and try things slowly, women have to kindly put up with some awkward shit but will bail immediately if he gets genuinely creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 11:50 PM
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I’ve never been to a strip club, and most of my fellow students work 9-5s/have never been sex workers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 11:48 PM
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Yes to all of those for me! I’m the strongest I’ve ever been in my life, my shoulders are HUGE and I have a six pack (I didn’t even know I was capable of that). The community is also incredible, I’ve made so many great friends. It’s 98% women but men come too on occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:50 PM
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That was one of my initial concerns but now that I’m an intermediate-advanced level (I can do moves like this or this) I’ve realized I have access to hundreds of moves and variations!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:47 PM
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At least I’m a ripped hoe. Silver linings
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:40 PM
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Q4A: when someone says they pole dance for fun, do you have any preconceived notions or opinions on pole as a sport/art? Asking for myself because I have no idea if people think I’m a harlot for recreationally training in pole
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:33 PM
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Yes, but counter question: when a man does something inappropriate or creepy, how do you suggest we phrase our boundaries or redirection without it coming off as a full rejection? I’ve done this before with a man I thought was cute at a bar and he was clearly nervous and he broke the touch barrier way too early and intensely by caressing my neck. I said (word for word) “hey man let’s slow it down, you’re cute but that was a lot” and he got embarrassed and defensive. It seems men who are socially…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:29 PM
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All of my long term relationships started off as hookups. Honestly, the hookups I wasn’t as attracted to got dropped pretty quickly (in conjunction with other behavior or traits I disliked). I’ve never been more attracted to anyone than the man I’m with now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:46 PM
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I have been sentenced to life for writing in full sentences and paragraphs. Save me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:44 PM
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TIL: Disagreeing with someone you don’t like is bullying and also genocide
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:37 PM
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I just saw him yesterday, but don’t jinx it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:33 PM
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We’ve been cursed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:32 PM
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Tight spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:51 PM
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Saying I preferred my guy friends in HS because girls were too much drama. Yuck
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:10 PM
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I have a joint grocery list in Notes for this reason. Put what you want on it before I go at the scheduled time or I’m not getting it. In this case, it sucks to be you but I’m not responsible for shaking you out of your workflow!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:07 PM
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So you think the average ppd user is less empathetic than the general population?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:04 PM
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For the third time, you made the claim thus the burden of proof is on you. If your next reply isn’t some math showing me that it’s cheaper to paternity test all babies than it is to litigate paternity fraud then I’m done replying
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:04 PM
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Having an agenda/point to prove isn’t necessarily correlated with the ability to empathize with others
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:57 PM
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His reputation and ability to make money has been destroyed. His ego has been bruised beyond recognition and now he schizoposts on X. That is justice to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:55 PM
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But is the cost savings of limiting litigation greater than the costs of paternity testing 4 million babies a year? Because that’s what you claimed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:54 PM
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Q4A: Do you think the average PPD participant struggles with empathy more than the general population?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:50 PM
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He did not say anything about cost. You made claims about costs. Prove your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:45 PM
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Low empathy take, cya
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:44 PM
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You’re correct, but that will change soon given he’s admitted to it multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:41 PM
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The man interviewed is Carnell Smith, a private citizen. He did say limiting court claims was a reason to support this law, but did not state it would be cheaper than litigating paternity fraud cases. You appear to have made that up yourself if this video was your source.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:40 PM
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People make poor decisions all the time. For example, the elderly are very trusting and frequently fall for scams. That doesn’t mean the scammers should be allowed to fuck with the elderly—it’s entirely on the scammer for causing this problem in the first place. People who do dumb shit don’t deserve to be victims of crime. Arguing otherwise is psychopathic and low empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:37 PM
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That’s my point, you made the claim so you must prove it. This is how debate works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:34 PM
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It is bullying and genocide when mods ask me to use standard formatting and also I am the biggest victim of ppd
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:33 PM
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Yet another man proving the core of his argument is “it’s women’s fault when they get abused”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:31 PM
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They source a well respected nonprofit Polaris and Tate himself. Tate has already openly admitted it, this will be open and shut for him. I am not defending him Then I would suggest you stop defending him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:29 PM
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You claimed paternity testing all children is cheaper to the taxpayer than it is to litigate claims of paternity fraud. Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:26 PM
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The government of Romania begs to differ, and I assume they have more information than either of us. Anyways, I look forward to him spending many years in prison!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:24 PM
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“It’s the women’s fault she got abused” always ends up being the core of y’all’s argument lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:14 PM
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Link the interview.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:12 PM
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Those are two accounts out of dozens of women that clearly stated to law enforcement an experience that aligns with the Romeo sex abuse strategy. In publicity for his online courses, in manipulating and exploiting women, Andrew Tate said: “I’ve been running a web-cam studio for over a decade… Over 50% of my employees were actually my girlfriends at the time and, of all my girlfriends, NONE were in the adult entertainment industry before they met me.” He describes his job as “to meet a girl, go o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:10 PM
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If it is bullying to require you to actually make sense and format your shit in proper English when you debate, then send me to the principal’s office. Debate with the wall
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:08 PM
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I too enjoy reading misogynistic content in slam poetry format.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:06 PM
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I would appreciate your sources and calculations proving that the paternity testing the 4 million babies born annually is cheaper than the court costs associated with determining paternity for 3.7% of those babies. Also, courts and lawyers are usually paid privately by the people suing each other. Having to pay for court costs is a common punishment when you lose a case. Paternity testing the whole population mandatorily would have to be administered by the government at extreme costs to taxpaye…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:05 PM
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their actions fall directly in line with a common tactic used by traffickers to recruit victims. “Romeo pimping” is when a person “purposefully, intentionally, and fraudulently creates a romantic relationship with another person for the purposes of human trafficking,” Caren Benjamin, the Chief of External Affairs at Polaris, a U.S.-based anti-human trafficking non-profit organization, told Jezebel. “The real reason that this relationship has been created and maintained is so that the trafficker …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:01 PM
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The scale of the problem absolutely informs the urgency and type of solution society would accept. Paternity fraud is not “rampant.” Claiming the general population is experiencing paternity fraud at a rate of 30% is disingenuous. 3-4% makes much more sense. Those men deserve justice (I believe laws with mandatory child support if you’re on the birth certificate should be changed), but the answer is not to subject the entire population to mandatory paternity testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:54 PM
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You linked a ridiculously uncredible website. The article within the site didn’t link the study they referenced for the 30% number. Hmmm, wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:45 PM
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Absolutely. His own curriculum in “Tate university” pretty explicitly outlines a Romeo sex abuse strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:39 PM
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god bless the mod team for finally asking 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 single sentence paragraph guy to fix his fucking formatting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:35 PM
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god bless the mod team for finally asking 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 single sentence paragraph guy to fix his fucking formatting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:34 PM
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That last part sums up the issue. I would argue sentence and paragraph structure is part of good grammar but you know what I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:26 AM
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It has to be. I can’t wait for the internet to be 90% garbage AI bots interacting with each other
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:12 AM
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My work rec kickball team won our first game tonight is this what living feels like
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:08 AM
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Hopefully reading a grammar book.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:05 AM
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Excellent American b8
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:00 AM
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I just wanted to say OP I’m so glad you’re in a better relationship and unlearning unhealthy ideas about obligation sex. It’s such a miserable and exhausting experience to constantly feel pressured and not feel listened to by your partner. Cheers :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:43 PM
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This is wildly disrespectful, I don’t think this is funny at all. There are so many other ways you can plaster “I’m a fan of yours” on a poster board (already kinda cringe) besides joking you’d blow up your marriage for them. Lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:36 PM
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Can you be real with me for a second? Do you genuinely, truly believe that 40% of children are currently being raised by a man that isn’t their father?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:19 PM
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You continue to expose regressive values and ideas while masquerading as an egalitarian. I’ll call that out until the cows come home, I don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:07 AM
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a woman’s petty feelings What a way to characterize your hypothetical wife. You keep telling on yourself, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:48 AM
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If you say no women would date a man who will paternity test no matter what (by your own admission) then it sounds like we’ve established a norm that paternity testing is inappropriate outside of specific concrete accusations of cheating. Men who want to paternity test by default are not the norm and thus the onus is on them to say something. Again. You literally admitted no woman wants a man who needs “confirmation” their wife and mother of their child isn’t a cheating wh*re. Insecure men are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:47 PM
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I totally would have that conversation early on in a serious relationship, that’s not the gotcha you think it is. Find someone with compatible values or don’t be surprised when she leaves you for this behavior. Thankfully I don’t personally have to deal with any of this shit, as I’m childfree and sterile by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:19 PM
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It’s “sabotage” to be upfront about your values and fundamental beliefs, because no woman would want you when you’re honest about it? Way to tell on yourself, holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:03 PM
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I am childfree and sterile by choice, but I assume this will please you since women’s greatest value to you is their ability to pump out your offspring. It is unhealthy pathological insecurity enabled with modern technology. It is not normal to lack such basic trust in your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:01 PM
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Men who feel this way would ask their hypothetical future wives for these tests. They (and you as well, it seems) have such bad trust issues that you don’t trust someone you haven’t even met. I can’t imagine lacking that kind of basic trust in someone you want to marry and procreate with. It’s unhealthy pathological insecurity, end of story. Every man prior to the invention of paternity tests has had to get the fuck over themselves, I would suggest you follow suit. Alternatively as suggested ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:16 PM
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Are you secretly a terrorist? Despite that being phrased as a question, what you’re being asked about is so far removed from your value system and so unlike you that it ends up coming off as an accusation (and an offensive one at that).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:17 PM
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Thinking my partner is cheating ≠ “I care about this relationship.” I can’t imagine liking being accused of cheating unless it was a trauma response from an abusive relationship. It’s giving “I like when he hits me it means he really cares 🥺”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:59 PM
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It’s more likely she was unfaithful and it’s not even close. These tests are about discovering infidelity and it’s disingenuous to claim low probability events are why men ask for paternity tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:39 PM
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I would hope these RPers are extremely honest with their partners long before pregnancy is on the table about their intent to test paternity. This “problem” is easily avoided if men were honest about their insecurity early on in the relationship and is dating a woman that’s okay with reassuring him with a paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:36 PM
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He’s trying to justify men paternity testing their children with the “I just want to be sure and it’s not fair for my partner to feel betrayed by it” argument. There are multiple posts about it every week and it seems impossible to convince these men that it is in fact rude to implicitly accuse your partner of cheating and paternity fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:33 PM
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No. While I admire the sad attempt to gender swap the paternity fraud issue, I wouldn’t test my partners faithfulness unless I had a concrete reason to be suspicious. It would be hurtful to my partner and I have no desire to “just make sure” if I feel my relationship is strong and stable (as it should be on the verge of marriage).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:31 PM
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“Equality” doesn’t mean every man who wants an ideal girlfriend gets one. You have fundamentally misunderstood what fairness is. You aren’t owed a hot, young, thin girlfriend that meets all of your needs without compromise—just as this TikTok freak influencer isn’t owed a hot jacked liberal boyfriend. Women don’t need to collectively lower their standards to make it “fair” for men, fairness has no relevance to this conversation. Also, it’s comically evil to compare you being lonely to women bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:29 PM
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Women not wanting to date you on an individual level because they have unrealistic standards is not a “men’s issue” what kind of fucking delusion is going on here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:29 PM
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This is horrifying if true. I’m American and have thankfully never experienced a man questioning the “seriousness”/validity of my current relationship but the question would offend me on principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:19 PM
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I want to go to pole classes more than ever and keep working on my shoulder strength and overall flexibility. I want more pole outfits too. I also want to finish my education portion of my professional designation so I can be ready for the exam next year
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:16 PM
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Meh, having lived in rec states and fully illegal states I think it’s a relatively small % that are actually snoop dog level stoners. Those people are usually homebodies and bums with little career prospects or social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:23 PM
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As a (highly functioning) stoner myself, this is a cold take. Almost nobody finds chronic drug dependency attractive. I only do it at night to manage anxiety. What really grosses me out is people who smoke inside, it’s disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:18 PM
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Interjecting here but I think her point may be that you won’t find a happy relationship if you aren’t happy and enjoying life on your own. Idk abt you, but I can tell when men I’m dating hate themselves/are unhappy with their life circumstances or don’t treat themselves well. It’s ugly and sad and I’ve never continued seeing them because 1. Desperation isn’t a good look and 2. I’m confident that when our relationship isn’t the picture perfect thing they were imagining, they’re going to treat me …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:07 PM
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r/menandfemales
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:03 PM
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Black and brown yea, zip and turtleneck nay. Cream/white is adorable but so impractical for most of daily life. Brown sweater is my favorite
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:01 PM
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Agree. This is how I’ve always been able to tell if someone (romantic prospect or friend) shows they have problems maintaining long term healthy friendships. It could be personality, a deeper pattern of mood instability, or being high conflict. Barring circumstances like starting life over and moving somewhere else, I think it’s unhealthy for an independent adult to lack a platonic social support network, no matter how small.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:00 AM
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Then the analogy should follow that people can own guns, but it would be illegal to shoot them without a license/insirance, and it is the use of these objects that is dangerous. Your point seems to be “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” which I agree with. There are many other ways you can stay safe and defend yourself besides guns. Guns are one of the leading killers of Americans (and one of the only first world industrial societies to be experiencing this issue) and their risk to own …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:48 PM
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Wow, that’s shocking. I’d been reading abt it recently and wanted to hear some anecdotes. Thank you for sharing!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:41 PM
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Thank you for sharing. I was reading about the gambling epidemic down there and wanted to hear some anecdotes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:40 PM
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All guns are extremely powerful weapons. I think fewer people should have guns, not that no people should have guns. I believe owning a gun should be something you have to be trained and certified in (like a drivers license) and carry insurance for (like driving a car). The risk people pose by owning and using weapons should be reflected in the cost of owning them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:38 PM
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No, I don’t have a strong opinion on gun control beyond being more fucking careful about who’s allowed to have them. Criminals not having extremely powerful weapons is a great start imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:15 PM
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Theoretically banning rifles should help stop children from being murdered in their classrooms and reduce the number of attempts on the lives of presidential candidates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:18 PM
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That conflict was what, 60 years ago? Tech has changed a lot since then and I think you’re comparing apples to oranges. Your second point I could agree with more, but you’re also operating off the assumptions that: military families haven’t already been evacuated soldiers are directly involved in warfare as opposed to a few high ranking officers and a bunch of drones warfare is occurring in the areas where military families live
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:49 PM
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I think you mean “immoral.” Amoral means being unconcerned whether something is moral or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:33 PM
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No, I think we don’t stand a chance as civilians against the most well funded and dangerous military in the world. Gun freaks just come off as unhinged larpers to me, yall would get mowed down instantaneously. This is coming from someone who shoots recreationally.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:32 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:28 PM
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Entirely unrelated to the topic at hand, but as an Australian can I ask what your experience is with gambling? Do you/your family/friends do it a lot? Is it a social thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:28 PM
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This is a very interesting perspective I hadn’t considered. I’m a staunch atheist and have been that way all my life, I’m also childfree and medically sterile by choice. Figuring out one’s purpose in life is difficult and can often lead to an existential crisis (or multiple throughout your life), but ultimately I consider it a worthy goal. Religion is the easy way out—why shy away from a challenge you have your whole life to figure out? As long as they have a social support network, it’s worth i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:25 PM
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“She has to be thin/fit but she’s not allowed to have exercise and sports as a hobby or passion” is a wild fucking set of criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:32 AM
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American women don’t have that tolerance for oppression. It seems we agree society will collapse without contraception, it’s just a matter of how quickly that will happen. The way things are going, we’ll get to see who is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:33 PM
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Yes? Also, that society never really had access to contraception and abortion the way western society has now—we’ve adjusted to it as a basic human right and core component of our lifestyle. Without it, I think the US as we know it would collapse almost immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:51 PM
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Women being forced backwards into a time where they don’t have a choice over whether or not they have children will absolutely lead to mass unrest and worse. Without contraception, more than 80% of sexually active women would fall pregnant within one year. It would be catastrophic to our economy and larger society. People likely would starve in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:45 PM
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If we need to “bribe” women/families by providing them with a solid baseline quality of life, I’m all for it. Other countries are already trying the same thing. A contraception ban will only lead to widespread civil unrest and death.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:01 PM
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We live in a capitalist system, and it influences the choices we make in every realm of our lives. If the supply is low and demand is high, the “price” women get for having children should naturally rise. That isn’t happening, so “suppliers” of children (women) are leaving the “market.” Society needs to do something about it that isn’t forcing women into childbearing slavery. “It simply must be done” isn’t going to convince women to throw away their financial, physical and emotional well-being.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:27 PM
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I really appreciate how many men are actually great self starters and are very determined to meet their goals through the power of only their own body and brain. I know this stems from a lack of feeling supported (which I feel bad for), but I admire their independence and drive to achieve
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:51 PM
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Then the answer (in your view) appears to be don’t ever marry or commit, because you don’t trust women to put out whenever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:38 PM
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So if it’s cheating for her to not put out as often as he wants (but that’s not okay), then he’s allowed to cheat on her (somehow okay)? Make this make sense. I thought black/red pillers care about the “sanctity of marriage” or some horseshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:57 PM
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It’s insane how the post went from “cheating is bad and when my wife won’t fuck me it’s cheating” to “don’t be mad when I cheat on you because you deserve it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:39 PM
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What do you think this is? A picnic? The seriousness of the proceedings have nothing to do with what the proceedings actually are. Read the link. Courts, which are run by judges, do way more than trials. Judges can do lots of things (like simple divorces and restraining orders) that don’t involve a jury, and thus aren’t trials. A trial is by definition only with a jury. Pleading guilty means you never experience a jury that judges you as guilty and and you are immediately sentenced, often with r…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:04 AM
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not semantics, given it’s a core qualification for you believing victims. so, you don’t need a trial to believe victims then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:59 AM
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a judge being involved doesn’t make it a trial. “If you accept a plea agreement, a judge will sentence you without a trial.“ not a trial. by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:56 AM
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read the link i just added? taking a plea deal specifically avoids trial. it’s a core component of how our justice system works—remove the hard work on the prosecutor by admitting guilt and avoid a harsh jury punishment altogether. i see reading is hard for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:53 AM
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no, taking a plea deal is not going to trial. a jury never appears when someone pleads guilty or takes a deal. i beg of you, a simple google search would do you wonders. https://www.lawinfo.com/resources/criminal-defense/criminal-procedure/what-happens-when-you-accept-a-plea-deal.html#:~:text=If%20you%20want%20to%20fight,you%20agree%20to%20plead%20guilty. i did go to the police and got a rape kit. did you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:48 AM
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taking a plea deal is not going to trial. you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. given that my rapist admitted to it, i’m not sure what else could be done in my situation to convince the average redpill caveman. best of luck with your critical thinking skills. https://www.lawinfo.com/resources/criminal-defense/criminal-procedure/what-happens-when-you-accept-a-plea-deal.html#:~:text=If%20you%20want%20to%20fight,you%20agree%20to%20plead%20guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:47 AM
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on todays episode of “what object are women,” it’s a bed this time! points for creativity. this seems like you have a madonna wh*re complex. women are more than their sexual value or ability to bear children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:18 PM
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that’s what’s amazing! you don’t know which celebrities and tech billionaires and successful businesspeople with loving families have high N counts because it has no impact on your ability to have a happy life and family. this is purely your own values that make you incompatible with people who choose to engage in casual sex—there’s no need to project your insecurity onto everyone else and label yourself as a “real man” (extremely embarrassing, btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:16 PM
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this “real men” business you’ve referred to a few times means absolutely nothing to me. many high n count people live happy lives in committed relationships with great success and it’s silly to deny that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:19 PM
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you have no idea how many men and women with high body counts have created an incredible lasting legacy. this might shock and appall you, but sl*ts run among us and they’re just like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 08:45 PM
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if the greatest value your partner brings is her lack of sexual experience, your standards must be very low. you use extremely degrading language to describe this hypothetical woman’s life choices, as opposed to the woman you want that you’re literally describing putting on a pedestal and worshipping. why do you consider marriage as “paying” for access to sex with her? have you ever heard of the madonna wh*re complex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 08:42 PM
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i could agree with that. i’m surgically sterile and childfree by choice so being mutually tested is the only thing theoretically holding me back from having all the raw sex i want. i’m monogamous with someone who makes me very happy right now so it’s a nonissue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 08:37 PM
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i (kinda) agree with your first two but not the third. i think the three statements are coming from a variety of people and i don’t think many are saying all three things at once, especially the last one. my values state that as long as you have never cheated in a relationship and had safe sex, having “a past” is a normal and healthy way to live life. i believe that men with different values from mine are not compatible partners in a relationship and thus i would never date them. my personal exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:52 PM
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https://www.humboldt.edu/supporting-survivors/educational-resources/statistics#:~:text=An%20estimated%2091%25%20of%20victims,(1)%20This%20US%20Dept. easily verifiable information. you’re the same guy who doesn’t believe victims unless they report it to police and get a conviction. so if your argument is that men don’t report female rapists, then following your logic you don’t believe they were even raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:28 PM
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i was looking for this comment. based
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:29 PM
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are you aware that most crimes, including sex crimes, never go to trial? do you not believe victims whose assailants took a plea deal/pled guilty? in addition, do you not believe that the justice and policing system makes it difficult for women to report their crimes and have it accurately recorded? this is anecdotal, but i was raped in 2016. my rape kit was never tested and found to have been thrown away along with hundreds of others in one of the larger scandals of my police department of all …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:17 PM
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question for you: how would you like women to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to you specifically of their claims of assault? what can she say or show you that would make you believe her?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:44 PM
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men commit well over 90% of sex crimes, it would be logically unsound to assume OP isnt talking about your date being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:38 PM
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risk is far too high to see past it. i would thank him for his honesty and end the date, depending on exactly what he says. why is this being brought up on a first date, or any early date? why do you feel the need to bring it up? the dating pool is large enough to have plenty of men that haven’t been accused of sexual assault and i don’t need to waste my time investing in someone who has.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:37 PM
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in addition to what everyone else has already said, it’s likely that regulars are recognizing you as a regular as well and see you as a fixture there now. your consistency is probably being noticed at least a little!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:30 PM
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this is the one time i will respond to you directly. you are literally repeating yourself over and over again line by line. it’s bizarre. your poor grammar, incomplete sentences and weird spacing aren’t related to the amount of effort your posts have, which i would also argue is low. you are the only person ive ever seen that speaks this way and its genuinely distracting from the points you’re trying to make (ive SEEN other commenters get confused by what you’re trying to say). either speak in f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:13 PM
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i never engage with OP because i can’t stand how he types. i don’t want to read a middle school girl’s contemporary poem every time i respond to a comment. paragraphs are a thing and ESL isn’t an excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:34 PM
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why are you asking? i don’t even really know how to answer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:31 AM
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you genuinely think some of the perpetrators in this case were misled into thinking it was consensual? delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:13 AM
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absolutely untrue in my and many of my friends’ anecdotal experiences. imo the type of men who approach are on the extreme ends of the socialization spectrum. they’re either a great conversationalist, conventionally attractive and pull easily or an absolute arrogant or socially inept mess. having a dude attempt to neg you irl is an insane experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:08 AM
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he’s extremely conventionally attractive in a fratty way. 9/10 but personally i’m extremely turned off by his vibe
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:05 AM
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what does that even mean good, socially inept men will stop bothering me. good, men will stop bothering me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:02 AM
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then explain it to me. i’m not convinced men not dating as middle or high schoolers impacts their ability to form and maintain relationships in adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:59 PM
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not sure what the cope is, i dated in high school and it felt more like a teenage drama show than an adult relationship. it really doesn’t matter if you dated when you were a child or teenager, not sure what even needs to be redeemed in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:09 PM
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i would hope most people understand that 99% of middle and high school relationships don’t matter at all and are more akin to practice runs of relationship dynamics and conflict resolution than it is a real relationship with real consequences. also, i’m not sure where you went to school but tons of gangly, goofy looking classmates of mine absolutely dated a lot. being interesting and having a lot in common is far more important than looks at that age. prom king and queen is the exception, not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:08 PM
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i completely disagree with you. i’m optimistic that the takeaway will be “i don’t have to be a male model to please a woman in bed and i should work on my bedroom skills when given the opportunity.” 90% of this is just listening and doing what she asks. only average men with blown up egos will struggle with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:34 PM
3

this is sending me rn thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:12 AM
4

i love a good hammering situationally, but if it’s our first hookup and you’ve got no skills it’s a hard pass from me. i totally agree every woman is a little different
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:11 PM
6

obnoxious jackhammering, calling me names without clearing it with me beforehand. the “foreplay” was him shredding my cooch with his long ass fingernails.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:49 PM
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i’m prepared to get accused of lying but the best sex i’ve ever had and continue to have is with a guy most people don’t find conventionally attractive. i’m wildly attracted to him and couldn’t imagine myself with anyone else. the one time i hooked up with a very conventionally attractive man, i stopped him halfway through because it was so fucking bad and made him leave. ego really does get in the way of a lot of hot men’s ability to please women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:27 PM
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you can’t be happy with insecurity running your life. you’ll never be able to stop yourself from wondering “is she really telling the truth?” and the answer is to simply not care. if she’s happy with you now that’s all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:25 PM
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you will truly never be happy if that’s your standard for a strong relationship. women do not want to date men who feel that way either. battling a man’s insecurity for him by constantly reassuring him he’s the best you’ve ever had is exhausting. you need to talk to someone about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:50 PM
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dunno how the fuck this applies to me, a very androgynous and muscular woman that enjoys being perceived as such but still doesn’t want to be used for my body. femininity is not the ideal or goal for all women so i don’t understand how it has to be applied to this particular issue. being used doesn’t make you less feminine, it doesn’t even have anything to do with you. it’s a choice made by your “partner” and the fault lies with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:47 PM
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i do not view relationships as transactionally as you do. i don’t care about what someone can offer me, it’s about if i’m happy with them and we can become better versions of ourselves together. enjoy your tit for tat relationships though!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:25 PM
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i would be open to being approached in any of the places he listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:34 PM
1

i make my own money and have a very high libido, this is not a concern for me. i’m glad you finally dropped the mask and made it clear you think monogamous heterosexual relationships are so transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:33 PM
1

2 is not a requirement of monogamy and you’re welcome to agree to disagree on that. cheers
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:52 AM
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that would mean something very scary for our society, and i don’t think it’s true. it’s totally normal to enjoy fantasy that doesn’t reflect your real world desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:33 PM
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overall i agree with your point about being frustrated and feeling used for your emotional support, but i’d like to point out that domestic abuse situations are heavily connected to dependency and addictive personalities. she likely knows the situation isn’t great, but she’s addicted to a shitty guy and will keep going back until she wisens up or gets seriously hurt. i had a friend like that and stopped being friends with her the same way i wouldn’t be able to support a friend addicted to crack …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:11 PM
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you completely lost me at dancing classes being old women only, libraries being a “rich people only” space, and outdoorsy folks being on their phone. you need to do a better job of researching things to do and committing to frequenting a few places often.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:02 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/8fbxj7bmqx
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:56 PM
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i wish i could regulate my use like you do! i have to return to a baseline level of sobriety before i give it another swing though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:54 PM
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it definitely is the weed. i was a very different person before i became dependent on it to manage my anxiety
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:01 PM
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quitting weed cold turkey today. i’m tired of feeling so foggy and stupid all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:57 PM
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okay? that doesn’t mean they’re not monogamous anymore just because one party stops putting out. monogamy is a relationship style where you are only “with” one person in some capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:43 PM
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i know this post is just flipping the last nonsense bullshit post on its head, but damn i really wish we were all nicer to each other. it shocks me to my core that people can genuinely believe treating people as disposable toys won’t do damage to yourself and the people around you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:06 PM
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i am dating an autistic man and that’s a cruel thing to say to or about anyone. you have stopped making any sense at all so i’m going to stop trying. take care!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:17 PM
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i’m giving this post the exact amount of consideration it deserves, given how fucking ridiculous your premise is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:06 PM
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you asked if we should send bad men to jail for being pieces of shit, i’m simply flipping the genders in the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:41 PM
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i literally just flipped the argument you just made, it was your exact argument which means it’s not a straw man. how do you expect to control women if not by jail?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:41 PM
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yes? like, what’s the reverse of it? are we going to micromanage and control women by sending them to jail for wanting to fuck bad men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:35 PM
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i’m closer to agreeing with you than the other commenter, but i don’t agree that just because you aren’t having sex that it means you’ve “left a monogamous relationship.” you can be monogamous with someone and sexually abstinent at the same time—i imagine that’s how most asexual monogamous relationships work. again, words have meaning. it’s fine to call refusing sex a betrayal and it’s a good reason to end the relationship, but it’s not “leaving monogamy” or “cheating.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:38 PM
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i am a native english speaker so i’m happy to clarify: breach of agreement is NOT cheating. cheating is a very specific behavior that can’t be used as a catch all term for “my wife won’t fuck me.” betrayal is a fine word to use instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:33 PM
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abstinence isn’t cheating either? i’m not pro “women who stop having sex as soon as they get married”, but jesus yall words have meaning. you don’t need to label this behavior as infidelity to justify ending the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:31 PM
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even with your strict interpretation of what a marriage contract entails, violating it by denying sex doesn’t mean they’re “cheating.” cheating is a pretty specific act of choosing to sleep with someone you’re not in a relationship with. denying sex is manipulative and unfair (and worthy of divorce if it’s a pattern), but not cheating unless they’re fucking around with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:17 PM
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how is it cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:49 PM
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none needed. i’ve only ever dated men 5’8” or shorter. being funny and having great facial hair is always a huge plus for me though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:38 PM
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personally i have dropped a friend over her being a willing accessory to cheating (homewrecking) and i think my friends would all do the same with each other. it’s skeevy behavior i/we don’t want to be associated with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:55 PM
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i have never stated that nobody owes anyone anything. you must have me confused with some other faceless profile. i believe strongly in the social contract, not ghosting, helping people in need, mediating conflict. speaking in heavy generalities, i think when women say “women don’t owe you anything,” it’s in response to men who are pushing her boundaries and expecting things beyond what’s appropriate given the circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:57 PM
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i would probably end the relationship. i don’t want men who deliberately seek out younger partners and would never be able to shake off the concern of being traded in for a “newer model.” unless you can convince me of exactly why you thought dating a barely legal teenager was truly a good idea and benefitted you both, the streets can have you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:45 PM
3

then you don’t understand altruism despite being capable of it. i would consider personal growth
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:13 PM
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perfect, then you have the ability to understand the overall value of kindness for the sake of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:50 PM
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because normal people understand the long term value in helping others with no expectation of any immediate return. doing good things for the sake of it is a normal thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:57 PM
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it is antisocial behavior, yes. it’s unusual to expect nobody to help you and it’s even more unusual to refuse to help anyone else in need on principle. social behavior is not always about cost/benefit, it’s about relationships, community and doing things without expectation of reciprocation
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:41 PM
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it’s a straw man. no feminist stereotype OP has invented thinks calling 911 is emotional labor. OP is weaponizing faulty logic and following it to the “logical” conclusion that expecting people to call 911 for you if you need help is entitlement. it’s a deeply antisocial and malicious subversion of the universal social contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:17 PM
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this is a deeply antisocial and concerning thing to say. most people have some kind of internal drive to help those around them, even if it’s just calling 911. it’s not entitlement to expect the people around you to at least do that if you need help. great example of this was the teenagers who watched a man drown in a lake without calling 911. they received insane public backlash and i think caught some kind of criminal charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:10 PM
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“calling 911 is emotional labor” is not the brain dead take i was expecting to see when i opened reddit this morning
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:51 PM
1

ok so we went from “i bet she lied and the alpha dumped her” to “it doesn’t matter” and now the issue is that she is still able to remember her ex and thinks about him sometimes? it’s impossible to win with y’all. just order your virgin mail bride and sit down
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:03 PM
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if you’re going to question the truthfulness of her post why bother engaging with it in the first place. stories either fit your narrative or they’re lies lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:51 PM
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i don’t think she’s fantasizing at all in her post? she’s acknowledging an objective truth (that you would rage about if she didn’t) and then immediately turns around and says how happy she is with her man that happens to have a nickname that triggers your insecurities. get over yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:26 PM
2

muh freeze peach to larp about spreading muh superior seed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:44 PM
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can we fucking ban this guy please i’m tired of seeing his fetish content in threads it doesn’t belong in
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:39 PM
2

stop responding to this guy, he’s a fetishist. it’s gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:48 PM
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“yknow what will fix our broken foster care system bursting at the seams with children that desperately want homes and a loving family? reducing the pool of eligible adoptive parents.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:47 PM
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infidelity is not correlated to how collectivist a society is. i think rape statistics in the us are heavily underreported as well. people are generally very courteous to each other (save for the gropers on public transport) and keep their spaces clean and quiet. i’m in awe of common anecdotes of entirely silent subway cars and people picking up garbage that isn’t theirs off the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:27 PM
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flair checks out. i would genuinely rather live in a society like japan with a high degree of collectivism and respect for each other/their environment than a place like the US where public rapes and littering doesn’t draw a negative response from the people around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:27 PM
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“collaboration.” i can get all of my work done from home, arguably more efficiently than if im fending off people wanting to chat about nothing every 15 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:44 PM
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homie is collecting sociopathic traits like pokemon cards and bragging about it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:41 PM
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your sampling bias doesn’t change anything. statistically, most people (including men) aren’t armed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:37 PM
1

how does one enjoy being in the office? i’m on a 3 days wfh/2 days in office schedule and i can barely make myself do the office days
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:36 PM
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incorrect. at most, 40% of american men are armed and far fewer carry it in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:27 PM
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individualism is absolutely destroying our society. while i think OP is exaggerating the societal expectation that people step in to help someone in need, i think it should be the norm. a room full of people with a dog eat dog mindset are going to eat each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:05 PM
1

well that explains why you aren’t getting laid lmao. sex is always better when everyone involved actually wants and enjoys it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:01 PM
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i will not date man that’s a virgin when i meet him. i have no issue with men who choose to seek sex workers on their own, but i won’t be a middleman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:01 PM
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i can’t imagine a western woman that would be willing to enter an arranged marriage put together by their family members. maybe in some deeply religious circles, but otherwise we’re back at the original issue of not even being able to force women to date some of these desperate men. moving in with a man i don’t know sounds like an actual horror movie plot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:19 PM
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alas, how much you can buy her off for has nothing to do with how much she’s enjoying the sex. i like good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:34 PM
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i don’t care at all. a study is only as good as the context it exists in. all i care about is that the man has an n count of greater than zero and has low dark triad traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:27 PM
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disclaimer: i know my opinion is uncommon i have almost always split equally or taken turns splitting with the person i’m dating, regardless of their gender. men who obnoxiously insist on paying every time seem to have something to prove or are trying to curry favor. in my experience, who pays for meals ends up having very little impact on what the dynamic of my relationship with them is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:17 PM
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it’s hard to ignore, but you’re right. i’m sorry to hear your family went through that. all we can do is be better than our older generations by building on their gains and never letting ourselves rely on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:43 PM
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curious follow up question: are you suggesting we ban being unemployed, or just the stay at home parent/stay at home spouse model? can you be unemployed at all if you’re married or only if you’re single?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:59 PM
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i’m a financial planner, so i’m happy to explain this since you’re struggling ;) if you choose to ignore the emotional significance of many major financial life decisions, you’re missing out on what makes those numbers important. 90% of parents would be wildly offended at the assertion that their children are nothing more than liabilities. the value of children cannot be reduced to numbers and most decent fathers would never see their kids that way. our judicial system operates the same way (see…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:50 PM
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“how can i frame this woman’s abuse as her fault? also, i don’t think ive kicked enough puppies today.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:44 PM
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i’m a financial planner and i can personally tell you that $300k doesn’t set you up for long. it’s a great start, but by no means is it a ticket to retirement. also, you’re insane for thinking you can buy “several properties” for $300k (or even getting a reasonable mortgage rn) and then actually collect enough rent to break even as a bona fide slumlord. dump whoever you’re getting your financial advice from.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:40 PM
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as long as you’re never having kids, that’s a fine attitude to have. but you don’t get to have that opinion about your own children especially if they were wanted. a financial liability ≠ bad/not worth having. this is coming from a sterile and childfree woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:31 PM
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if a husband/father sees his own children as a liability, he should never have had them in the first place. the cost of having and raising children is extremely high, but most people find it worth it for personal gratification/religious mandate/“need to spread your seed”/betterment of society/insert your higher purpose here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:24 PM
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i watched this happen to my mother. SAHM, 4 kids in 5 years, husband worked a traveling tech job and they divorced 12 years in. she had basically no work experience and couldn’t get a job in the field she got a degree in. child support helped but wasn’t enough to bridge the gap in the HCOL area. to this day (10 years after their divorce), she’s making a third of what she could have been making and struggling to make ends meet. women are objectively at huge financial risk when they agree to be “t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:53 PM
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mmm and now we are at the heart of the issue—women aren’t people and aren’t worth respecting to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:13 PM
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i know you’re being jokingly transphobic but i don’t really care who identifies as a woman as long as they’re forthcoming about their identity when dating. my main point is stop calling women females lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:12 PM
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i have absolutely no idea what you’re on about but r/menandfemales is calling your name lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:36 PM
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not sure what a rapist calling a woman by the correct word (woman = adult human female) has anything to do with you. using “woman” instead of “female” has nothing to do with rape. i’m mocking you for calling men what they are (men), but using a dehumanizing term instead of using the equivalent word for the other gender. there’s an entire sub making fun of men who do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:16 PM
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i can’t imagine how dry the women are that deal with men like this. sex is supposed to be enjoyable or something….
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:04 PM
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r/menandfemales
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:59 PM
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wahhh, a bad review. i don’t understand your point at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:37 PM
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i never mentioned a conspiracy and you sound a little off the wall. with elective procedures like the ones you mentioned (like plastic surgery), doctors are largely immune from prosecution just because the patient regretted it. doctors are also welcome to refuse to do procedures they aren’t comfortable with, i will simply take my money elsewhere and that’s exactly what i did.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:15 PM
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i’m very glad i had a doctor that trusted my desire to be sterile and performed the surgery without grilling me or asking me if i would regret it. there’s a spreadsheet on r/ childfree that has a list of doctors willing to perform no questions asked sterilizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:54 PM
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i don’t even date tall men. i think it’s weird to say someone deserves cruel treatment but i see your point
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:28 AM
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it’s more about your deeply hostile and unkind vibes than the downvotes. you seem angry at everything and everyone. again, good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:13 AM
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i love the reflexive downvote you gave me when i was trying to be kind and honest. good luck to you lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:59 AM
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besides being kind to yourself and remembering dating is a long term numbers game, no. i just wanted to make sure you’re aware of the expectations of sugar arrangements going in—99% of SB are there for the short term money only. i’ve only ever personally heard of one sugar relationship that turned into something long term, and he was footing the entire bill for her very expensive lifestyle and she ended up leaving him when she was 28 to find an “actual” relationship with a man she wanted a famil…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:55 AM
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if you’re looking for consistent quality company and sex from a young hot woman, your problems are gone. if you’re looking for love or a genuine attachment, good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:41 AM
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fun anecdote: my 5’10” sister dated a guy that’s 5’4” for two years. she only broke up with him bc he abused her and stole from her. she constantly defended their height difference when he was mocked on the street lesson: a lot of the hate comes from ppl with no stake in the relationship. also, dudes can’t be short and a piece of shit. you have to pick one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:38 AM
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a kitten sitting on an 8 ball, the artist got the circles perfect thankfully
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:33 AM
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getting tattooed rn i can’t wait for it to be over
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:18 AM
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i am specifically concerned with the external and internal and hormonal damage pregnancy does to female bodies, not just normal aging or letting oneself go.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:04 PM
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my reasons for being surgically sterilized when i was 22: pregnancy/birth is now finally being shown for what it is: a traumatizing, wildly painful experience that changes your body forever my own parents were not good models for marriage or parenthood and i don’t wish to continue the cycle of abuse and trauma (see also: genetic mood disorders) the environment and political climate of our world is rapidly degrading and i’m not comfortable bringing children into a world where i can’t guarantee th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:56 PM
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i have been the breadwinner in every relationship i’ve ever been in and would never sign a prenup. i would never date someone who didn’t believe in the same financial structure of marriage as i do (joint assets). i am also a financial planner so this realm of life/relationships is something i’ve always felt confident about. i don’t understand couples that don’t have this conversation extremely early on. finances are one of the primary reasons a relationship falls apart and you need to be aligned…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:00 PM
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i’m not indifferent to the relationships i enter and i have no idea what point you’re trying to make in the context of my comment. who i enter a relationship with is just as important as the “social contract” being signed when i do so. the reason many relationships fail is because the couple should never have been together in the first place so id argue it’s pretty fucking important
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:57 PM
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am bisexual, would prefer to date other bisexuals (monogamously). someone who understands my fluid sexuality so personally is a huge asset in my eyes. bi men are amazing and it’s genuinely saddening to me how many women (even bi women) that consider it a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:55 PM
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no, and that’s insane. the prison system itself needs reform, but not in a gendered way. for most nonviolent offenders, they desperately need rehabilitation and socialization not isolation in a literal cage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:52 PM
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i feel as if i’m being treated as much more immature than i really am. i would never reveal my n count in this shithole sub but i have “experience” and know exactly what i want and i only sleep with people who are also experienced enough that they can: tell me what they like accommodate my needs and give me what i want avoid hurting me respect my boundaries and communicate their own there are a lot of men (arguably most) in my age demo that fit that description and i would always choose that ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 12:43 PM
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disclaimer: this is my personal opinion i don’t want to take someone’s virginity at this point. you need to have an n count of at least 1 by my age (24) in order for me to consider us compatible. it’s not a red flag by any means, but basically teaching someone how to have sex/monitor boundaries/read body language is work im not willing to do. fixing it (again imo) is about finding someone who’s willing to go slowly or is also a virgin at that age. lying is the easiest way to sex obviously but yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:48 AM
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most normal ppd user
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:11 PM
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only 1 for me is concerning, all the rest are okay with me. i think it’s important a man knows how to keep platonic female company, even at an acquaintance or work level.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:59 PM
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i think you could be confusing women’s criticism of arrogant men with “being too confident.” the variable i would say most of us are concerned with is social grace and intelligence. is he confident or is he monopolizing the conversation? is he confident or is he hitting on every woman at the party? this is related to the problem of men getting shitty advice from socially inept corners of the manosphere (read: tate and PUAs)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:52 PM
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it’s giving kevin spacey’s character from house of cards. also, people in porn are overall not having a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:55 PM
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for me personally, that would come off as cute/charming/fine. she may have been gauging your reaction for interest in her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:57 AM
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i can’t think of any racial group that regularly approaches me and doesn’t take no for an answer and makes me feel unsafe. i can only think of one demographic that makes me feel that way with any frequency. you’re welcome to be upset, but that’s literally just my lived experience. also, massive lol at the implication that men are somehow a structurally oppressed minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:07 AM
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overall, if men were as afraid of women as women are afraid of men then nobody would ever approach anyone. i acknowledge the reverse can happen to men, but this is mostly a women’s issue. men commit violence against women far more than the other way around and that’s the reason women don’t approach men (which is the point of my OC). helpful note: if you’re regularly having weapons of self defense pointed at you, then women are perceiving you as a threat and you need to change something now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:40 PM
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if that’s what makes me sexist then i’ll wear that label proudly. i will always choose safety over a man’s feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:48 PM
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i understand this is a debate, and i’ve spent the last three comments trying to convince you of the lived experiences of millions of women. it is dangerous to approach men sometimes, full stop. it is not sexist to acknowledge that truth and behave accordingly. feel free to be insulted but i’m done engaging if you’re going to gaslight women collectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:16 PM
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you asked why women don’t approach and i told you. women do face real danger. you don’t have to accept that truth but you won’t have any answers to your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:08 PM
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i wouldn’t be concerned about it if it didn’t happen, but it does (and with much greater frequency than anyone wants to admit). even if it’s not a violent rape in an alley, she still has to experience fear and anxiety that her boundaries and autonomy won’t be respected the first time she says “no thanks.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:48 PM
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that’s silly, men have no fear of violence because they rejected a woman. i have been sexually assaulted by a man i approached and decided i didn’t like and tried to walk away. there’s real risk in giving a random stranger a chance if you’re a woman. OP asked why women don’t approach, i’m giving the answer that feminists have shared with me and sharing my own experiences. if you don’t like it i can’t help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:46 PM
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i literally just told you why women are afraid and how there is a worse outcome than rejection for women. men sometimes can’t take no for an answer and if you even hinted at being interested they’ll take that as far as they possibly can, including telling you exactly what they’d do to you and groping you while you try to walk away. ask me how i know. it is not sexist to be concerned a man won’t take no for an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:32 PM
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disclaimer: i am a woman who actively approaches men the main reason i’ve heard from feminist/forward thinking friends of mine on why they don’t approach is all of them have experienced an inability to disengage if things go sideways. they’ve described approaching a man they’re interested in and quickly determine they’re not interested/he’s socially inept/says something inappropriate/escalated way too quickly, but when they try to say “thanks nice talking to you take care,” the man gets angry or…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:22 PM
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oh nooooo we’ve reached the “ugly men might as well be black” stage of discourse
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:56 PM
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you are overgeneralizing pretty severely. the average well adjusted woman values open communication and is turned off by men being coy and playing the long game. the difference is being respectful, courteous, and tailoring your message to your audience when explaining what you’re looking for or making a move. going with a socially inept opening line or failing to read the mood is what makes women upset, not that you’re being straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:54 PM
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i don’t mean to come across as callous, but you’re presenting that information in a deeply manipulative way. are you genuinely expecting women to stay in marriages that make them miserable to prevent men from committing suicide (a deeply personal choice)? yes, of course divorce is emotionally devastating, why are women responsible for what their ex spouses choose to do? your example of getting a cat and then being mad at her husband for not “pulling his weight” is disingenuous and not a good exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:22 PM
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i look forward to completely avoiding this problem by simply not marrying a man that has a different messiness tolerance than i do. i divide chores explicitly and equitably early on with the men i live with and they need to care about cleaning/having a clean home as much as i do (which is a reasonable amount)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:09 PM
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mans is Don Quixote the way you’re tilting at windmills.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:05 PM
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i don’t blame men for “allowing” me to live my own life, work my own job, have my own apartment and enjoy what the world has to offer. i’m grateful my mother and her mother fought for what i have now and i wouldn’t dream of returning to an era where women are drugged up baby-machine housewives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:55 PM
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my desired outcome is a monogamous, physically and emotionally healthy relationship where both our needs are fully met. we’re able to openly communicate and work through issues. we make each other happy and feel comfortable in each others presence. we maintain or increase our individual and joint wealth. we marry when we feel the time is right and we use our money to travel and have nice things, no kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:58 PM
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would love to add here that most fit female athletes have a bmi over 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:01 PM
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i just want to point out there was an absolute rampage of disordered eating marketing and behavior in the 80s and 90s with the “fear of fatty foods” and heroin chic aesthetics. many women genuinely suffered and “effortlessly thin” is stretching it pretty far. i agree it was easier to be healthy back then before the wave of processed food and less exercise, but you’re missing some cultural context. genuinely, ask your mom what it was like. my mom (a child of the 80s and 90s) nearly died of anorex…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:59 PM
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it’s culture and stereotypes about who is supposed to play what role in relationships. i reject both perspectives as sexist in their own ways. i’m looking for an equal (or near equal) partner in both income and contributions to running the household, as are many women i know. choose social circles with similar values to your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:47 PM
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i’m glad you were able to eventually admit you are specifically advocating for the systemic rape, forced impregnation, and enslavement of women, but i refuse to engage with people like you. enjoy your delusional fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:08 PM
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i’m glad you were able to eventually admit you were talking about systemic rape and enslavement of women, but i refuse to engage with people like you. enjoy your delusional fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:05 PM
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women in general have a drive to seek partnership with invading males because nature cares not from where the seed flows that’s a really poetic way to say “all of the men in my community were systematically murdered and my only option is to submit to rape and forced marriage before i am killed myself.” women don’t seek partnership with those that kill their loved ones. have you been watching too much game of thrones? our men are weak shit no, in fact i frequently hear the opposite, that they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:18 PM
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i want whatever you’re smoking, i’d love to be that out of touch with reality. you’ve made a ton of huge logical leaps into “it’s fine if some women get raped and the others will get stockholm syndrome eventually!” your last paragraph makes no sense and you sound more like a foreign conquest/rape fantasizer than someone taking this issue seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:29 PM
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what on earth would “conquest” mean in this context if not rape? seriously, do explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:08 PM
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you mean rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:59 AM
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the stereotype of guys they’re using are stupid, short tempered dickheads. being aggressive and attempting to show dominance is both futile and a waste of time. disengage, distance, silence. violence should always be an absolute last resort. i’m turned off by men who don’t share my values around using your head before your fists, “divine masculine” energy be damned
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:06 PM
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god, no. you don’t sleep with men who don’t want to date you instead of attempting to emotionally abuse someone you have no emotional connection to. you’re just torturing yourself and giving the guy exactly what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:33 PM
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posture improved and more definition yep, but also more muscles. it’s great
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:41 PM
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aaaand there it is haha. i hope whatever tiny ego boost this gave you lasts until another woman gives you the time of day
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:04 PM
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i’m not a bodybuilder, i don’t obsess over weekly changes. i’m commenting on the overall changes i’ve seen while doing the sports i love over a period of months. it almost like…athletes aren’t a monolith 🤯 it’s fine to be intimidated, it seems most other men irl are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:59 AM
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my silhouette has changed a lot and my street/club clothes make my shoulders look even broader than they already are. a little muscle looks like a lot on a small frame and nothing else about me has changed so it can’t be anything else. also, what woman measures muscle gain in pounds unless they’re bodybuilding lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:44 AM
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it’s so interesting to me on this sub how much men are willing to lower their standards or radically change their behavior to attract women they don’t even like. at the risk of looking like a pick-me, men who engage in the obnoxious chivalry/benevolent sexism look like obvious manipulators. be a genuinely kind, empathetic and funny human and you’ll have a much easier time attracting friends and normal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:25 AM
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5’4. training for myself since my office job is killing my spine—climbing and pole dance (mostly upper body obv)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:19 AM
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based on your description alone that sounds exactly like what you should be doing. the women who are offended by being treated as an equal are not worth anyone’s time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:17 AM
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texas (save me from the cowboy freaks). i saw you didn’t have luck tonight, what club scene are you in?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:15 AM
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it’s a good thing weird is my niche
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:15 AM
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my shoulders are broad af, it’s honestly weird to look at myself in the mirror sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:14 AM
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i’ve loved getting noticeably muscular the last few months. men have stopped talking to me in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:58 AM
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genuine question, what makes a woman different from a person (i assume you mean man when you say person)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:57 AM
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ok awesome then my comment is not for you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:06 PM
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if we’re here to do more than simply complain and opine about the destruction of our society, i think there’s huge value in helping men as a whole improve on their emotional intelligence and awareness. they deserve the same tools women are socialized with from birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:40 PM
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i’m so glad you got to chime in with the incredibly insightful #notallmen, but this is prevalent enough of a problem that it strains marriages and fucks up the kids. tons of men are only interested in reproduction as far as it gives him the title of “father,” and the effort stops there. can we help these men emotionally confront this cognitive dissonance and clarify their goals before they become a shitty dad?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:54 PM
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i am childfree and sterile as of a couple of years ago despite being 24. i’ve always been deeply suspicious of most men’s willingness to step up as fathers once they’ve checked off the Life Script box of “jizz in a lady and create my legacy.” my last long term relationship ended because he was insistent he needed to give his father grandkids before he passed away. that logic terrifies me and i don’t think most of them understand the level of emotional commitment a child takes—it’s a lifelong lab…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:46 PM
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i have literally never once heard a woman judge a man for being single. i’ve heard “why is he single he’s so sexy/successful/etc” but never “he’s weird for being single.” i don’t recognize this as an issue, or something that’s women’s responsibility to make normal. the whole point of women celebrating being single is because in the past, being a spinster/cat lady was a bad thing and it’s taken a long time for women to collectively realize we don’t need men to survive anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:40 PM
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genuine question, why bother participating if it’s not in good faith and you’re not bothering to articulate what you mean when your idea is “i have a right to treat my wife poorly because she isn’t doing what i want”?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:09 PM
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has every right to neglect you christ on a bike, that approach to relationships sounds fucking miserable. tit for tat and sneaky manipulative behavior is a one way street to a lonely life, romantic or not. i am high libido so this particular issue doesn’t resonate with me, but if the husband isn’t getting his needs met after openly communicating he only thing he has a “right” to do is leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:14 PM
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the dead bedroom post you’re referencing is not coercive, but manipulative and arguably a form of abuse if it’s a pattern of behavior. if i knew my husband was deliberately ignoring/neglecting me in an effort to get what he wants, i would divorce him. you’re right that attention is one of the only currencies you have, but leveraging it to manipulate women will lead you to a lonely and miserable life. not to mention that this kind of manipulation is easy to identify and it’d be easy for her to tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:11 PM
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it’s not welfare fraud or tax fraud to ask for (or receive) a family loan. it’s bad practice to lend money to family but there’s nothing wrong with it legally
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:31 PM
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i think he’ll be fine since he’s getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:01 PM
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i’m so glad we’ll never meet!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:21 PM
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i think you projected that onto a situation you don’t know anything about! he’s getting physical intimacy and a person to go do shit with as a friend, which is exactly what im getting out of it. i’m just not used to this dynamic where we were friends before anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:56 PM
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i guess i expected him to wait until i felt ready to make the first move (in hindsight this is not how men work and i was being silly). i also don’t know how either of our feelings play into this development, he’s only been a friend for years and it’s hard to look at him as anything else. maybe irritated is the wrong word, how about “unsure” or “anxious”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:53 PM
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we had sex twice and he’s coming over again tomorrow so i’m not sure what about that is “absolutely nothing”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:48 PM
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enjoy being alone ✨ “female privilege” to easily access sex is a double edged sword lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:48 PM
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maybe? or he knew i would have sex with him if he came on a little stronger and decided to act on it this weekend. we’ve been actual friends for a long time so he wouldn’t move on completely, but he’d probably start barking up other trees
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:47 PM
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nah i’m worried about the opposite haha. i could see it turning into something but neither of us are very emotionally available atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:40 PM
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seethe harder
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:39 PM
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i could feel him getting somewhat impatient i suppose? we’re both very heartbroken from our respective relationships ending and sex has a lot of emotion for me so i guess i felt a little pushed to move on. the sex was great though so i think it was just anxiety
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:38 PM
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i’m sterile and childfree so thankfully not a problem. i could see it going somewhere, we’re compatible in a lot of ways but both of us are heartbroken rn. what’s so bad i guess nothing? it makes me feel bad a little bit, because he’s a good person and treats me so well. i appreciate the perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:37 PM
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in an effort to get over my ex i slept with a guy i’ve been friends with for a long time (6+ years). in hindsight he was clearly orbiting the last 4 months waiting for the opportunity. he’s been struggling with dating too and we’d been commiserating about how much the apps suck right now. im not sure if i should be grateful he made himself available or irritated he was waiting for “his turn.” as long as he lets me bitch about my ex i guess i can’t complain
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:15 PM
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this is exactly what i was thinking, and have been thinking for myself. fundamentally i know i don’t want kids, don’t want to center my life and goals around parenting, and i would be an objectively poor parent. im so glad ive been born in a time and place where i had the choice to say no and pursue something else instead (a career in finance). my mother and every mother before her never had that option.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 02:09 AM
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another PPD user struggling to differentiate fiction from reality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:59 PM
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i demand respect, as does every other woman i know without exception. like, hundreds of women i know personally would never dream of the situation you claim is universal. enjoy your delusional fantasy 🤩
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:55 PM
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this response makes no sense, it’s an “if, then” statement not a dichotomy. what wild lengths men go to to excuse themselves from seeing women as people and giving them the appropriate respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:46 PM
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yeah, banning contraceptives sounds satanic to me too. glad we agree on something
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:23 PM
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i wasn’t aware jesus was a modern Top G policymaker
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:19 PM
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dunno man, the OC i was replying to seems to think the premise of the show is a genuinely good idea. who in their right fucking mind would ban contraception?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:15 PM
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breaking news bulletin: fiction can no longer be used as an artistic medium to illustrate the consequences of misogynistic, fascistic or other dangerous ideas. in related news, forced impregnation porn searches skyrocket 9000%. more at six
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:13 PM
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female nature is better kept in check the hulu show handmaids tale called, they want their main plot points back.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:07 PM
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have you considered the selection/sampling bias you’re experiencing? 95% of women are not hardwired to not need respect in a relationship, that’s objectively ridiculous. you’re attracting women that feel/behave this way, or even worse, you’re misinterpreting other behavior as “this woman doesn’t want my respect, thus i have no need to give it to her.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:04 PM
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women are not hardwired to seek partners that don’t treat them with respect. it’s purely a result of socialization, lived experience, and trauma. if you prefer to stay in short lived abusive relationships (that what you’re doing, because not respecting your partner is the root of abuse) then feel free, but it’s not normal or healthy. in a world full of sick people, healthy people seem sick
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:34 PM
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it sounds like you’ve found your niche in women that gravitate towards cycles of abusive relationships where their partner doesn’t respect them. it’s a trauma response, not a preference. relationships NEED two way respect for them to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:21 PM
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you’re speaking in generalities and i’m speaking personally, but i expect the exact respect i give to my partner to be returned to me. i want respect and love for my relationship to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:38 PM
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