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Get. Mental. Help. Now. I'm begging you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 04:42 PM
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I'm not trying to shame you, I really think you should seek mental help...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 03:08 AM
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Valenti is great and you are clearly paranoid and mentally ill. Nothing is skewed against "hapless" men, all of the men I know are doing quite well, are successful, well adjusted, attractive, happy... The common denominator in your life's troubles is YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 07:13 PM
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Keep backtracking and hamstering, its obvious you're an unwanted loser. I can even send you a picture showing that I'm not a fat neckbeard or pics of more guys who aren't. In fact, can send you pics starting from high school up to now, if anything I wasn't that bad looking even then - but still no luck. We don't get laid, only in LTR. The common (or BP) advice didn't help at all. Only with relationships - and still not so much. Not to mention, that some people not in relationships get more sex (…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:54 PM
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I've taken graduate level courses on philosophy of science. No philosopher of science would agree with you and I'd love to see you find one who would. Pretty sure you don't really seem to have any idea what YOU'RE talking about. gay men are defective men. I don't mind though, you seem to be a homophobic, misogynistic psycho so I'm not super interested in your opinion anyways. Your comment history reads like the hamstering of an unwanted male. it is possible that you just aren't attractive? I mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 10:20 PM
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But its par for the course around here. Its somewhere in the thread. But I'm sure these assholes aren't discriminating against women in real life eyeroll Time to leave these monsters to rot in their own delusions/paranoia/bad science.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 02:58 PM
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Yeahhh neuroscience is biology. I can tell you're not a scientist. Nor are you very bright. You're probably an engineer or something. Which btw is not a science.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 02:54 PM
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That is exactly what I am asking from you, the supposed expert. Specifics for what? You guys talk about claims that no scientists have made, and ideas without any evidence. I can mostly just say that TRP theory is baseless. They aren't as large as you might think, and there's lots of overlap between the abilities and inclinations of men and women This is supported by lots of empirical evidence. For example average male and female IQs are identical. This is well established. There you go, I gave …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:00 AM
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I'm not asking for protection, I don't need it - but if you're not going to respond to dickish comments don't criticize me for defending myself, that's all. But I guess I'm wondering why you're directing that comment at me and not men who are being condescending to me because I'm a woman? Actually, you argue about "science" like an emotional female. For example, wtf is that? Think about it for a minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 06:53 AM
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They ALWAYS go "lol women". Always. Calling us emotional, saying we're "hamstering", AWALT, etc. I'm bombarded with that in this sub. It's impossible to have a reasonable debate with these people. In any case I do not condone baseless attacks on women, or men; I condone calling out shitty behaviour of all humans as and when I see it. Prove it - start responding to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 06:29 AM
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Yup thats a solid argument. Calling a woman "emotional". Never heard that one before. Impressive argument bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 06:26 AM
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Eh a lot of what I do day to day is molecular neuroscience and I can tell you a lot of it is kinda sketchy. Believing that a science has rigor just means you haven't worked in that field yet in my experience. And I mean, psychology isn't "humanities". What? Nobody is claiming the humanities are sciences...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 06:25 AM
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What about it? Give specifics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 06:21 AM
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I'm not sure that gets very far with these types. And out of curiosity, why aren't you telling him to avoid ad homeniem attacks? I do feel like those kinds of comments get directed towards the women around here and the RP men do it with impunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 08:11 PM
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Its an interesting idea (the ovulating stripper thing) but most people I know don't buy the conclusions and I doubt it could be replicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 08:10 PM
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Special snowflake ideology sounds very scientific.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 08:09 PM
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I definitely think lack of access to mates is distressing to men, I'm just not sure there's a lot of evidence that there is "pain associated with a frustrated reproductive urge" that is "coded into our DNA", whatever that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 08:09 PM
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Example?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 08:08 PM
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Show me the source. I'm not saying it COULDN'T be possible, I'm saying there's no experimental evidence for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 06:03 PM
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Doubtful
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 05:49 PM
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I'm confused, you think I study human sex drives? I don't. I think most arousal studies are garbage. I love David Buss. You aren't discussing his research, though. He has never said a damn thing about the "pain associated with a frustrated reproductive urge" being coded into our DNA. You must not have actually understood what you were reading, or you didn't read much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 05:49 PM
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Poor, bipolar, angry, and unattractive - I hope you're not representative of your average redpiller or else it must be a really sad bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 05:46 PM
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For humans? I dunno, self report, arousal measures? That's kind of a vague concept. Are we talking about partner sex or masturbation? Etc etc I work with animals mostly though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 05:38 PM
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From the photos you've posted of yourself, I can see why you have such issues with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 05:36 PM
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Hate right there
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 05:32 PM
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Sorry what's your background again?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 05:31 PM
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Edited to add that Rushton and Kanazawa's research is actually pretty bad too, they know nothing about genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:57 PM
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PhD in behavioural neuroendocrinology. http://sbn.org/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:52 PM
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I know all about him. I'm doing a PhD in neuroscience. What's your claim to knowledge?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:45 PM
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I'm bored with you now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:44 PM
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Well that's simply bullshit. Feminists/gender studies reject, for spurious reasons or none at all, the evidence that has been gathered, by real scholars. Yeah, I study reproduction. Show me a study that supports this. Any academic study.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:44 PM
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Give me three specific examples. It's not about the concepts, its about the way scientists conduct research these days in general. From P hacking to outright fudging numbers, all life scientists are getting desperate to publish.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:40 PM
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Yes but WHAT WOULD THE COMPARISON BE BETWEEN LACK OF REPRODUCIBILITY IN PSYCH VS. OTHER SCIENCES. That's my point. Jesus. How many different ways do I need to explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:36 PM
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Actually, you argue about "science" like an emotional female. And here we go everybody, the tired old canard that women are emotional. My point is that I have authority on the subject because its my research, partially. What do you do again?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:35 PM
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I mean that's what psychologists do, they operationalize complex variables and study them. You seem to have a bit of an anger issue. Are you always this emotional?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:15 PM
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Seconded, would like to hear an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:12 PM
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So you don't like facts you disagree with then? Sounds childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:10 PM
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Most SCIENCE is not reproducible. No reason to pick on psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:09 PM
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Some of the studies stink, but others are OK. Its a new field.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:08 PM
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yup, this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:07 PM
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A lot of the research supports what Spike said. That men and women and similar levels of intelligence and abilities but perhaps a difference in interests. Besides, there's a difference between cognitive ability and social behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:06 PM
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Seconded. IQ tests predict life outcomes pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:03 PM
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So i've been called a bitch in this thread and told that because I'm a woman I should be treated like a child. If we scroll back through one of those user's histories we see this: I would disagree. PPD is a waste of time FOR WOMEN. their constant clucking here consistently fails to change the minds of men, and only serves to satisfy their own need for outrage porn like TBP. Women literally NEED to feel these feelings, its like a drug for them that reinforces the need for girl power and feminism.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:01 PM
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Interesting argument in the context of predicting experiments but still doesn't really justify dismissing a field you have no intimate knowledge of.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:59 PM
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We were talking about reproducibility in psychology as a whole, not evo psych.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:58 PM
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His response to my evidence was "HAHAHHA". Does he have a real counterargument?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:57 PM
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I mean the people you name are on the fringe of the field and nobody likes them. The general feeling is that they're attention whores, not scientists. I know some social psychologists who have pretty terrible ideas about certain things, but I think the sexy nature of evo psych research, and the fact that it appeals to the media, draws in certain kinds of personalities. I don't think its that evo psychology and feminism are incompatible, because as I said most evo biologists and psychologists I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:55 PM
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The pain associated with a frustrated reproductive urge is coded into our DNA. There's no evidence for this. The urge to be in a monogamous relationship, in contrast, is not determined by biology. There actually IS evidence for a biological basis to our mating system, monogamy. I mean that's certainly how it works in other animal species. Not having sex feels bad for all heterosexual male mammals, because it's a biological universal. This isn't really true. Sex is rewarding for mammals, and we k…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:47 PM
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That's a good question, I don't know. Maybe its impossible, maybe we'll get there someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:46 PM
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No, it wasn't just an example. This is definitely childish. There you go again. And I was the one making the point about not judging individuals by their group membership. You are the one telling me we need to treat women differently. Its interesting because I suspect I'm more intelligent and more educated than you, and many women likely are. But that's alright, keep thinking we're dumb little children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:40 PM
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the level of stupidity here...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 06:33 AM
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So you're basically shitting on your own field then you jackass. I'm a PhD in neuroscience too and I really can't believe you think those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 06:32 AM
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You're out of your goddamn mind if you are comparing interacting with women to interacting with a child. I mean there's nothing more to be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 06:31 AM
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I knew Rushton, he was a bit of a nutter but he wasn't exactly well regarded in the field and neither is Kanazawa.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 06:30 AM
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no, nobody has that expectation for behavioural science
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 06:29 AM
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Yes, I do actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 06:17 AM
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Right, I mean, you're not. You don't have any authority on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:47 AM
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So its not a science because you say its not a science without having intimate knowledge of the field. You know for a fact every single paper in the field is bunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:46 AM
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I mean, that's your opinion I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:45 AM
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I never claimed to know their individual personality. So on what basis do you think its right to treat men and women differently if you don't KNOW them? sure, we all sleep and eat. But in every culture there are gendered behaviors based on biology. You're exaggerating. laughing at extremist nurture over nature? yup. Were you an English major or something? Jesus. And yes, it is a small field. But I'm talking about the sample of people I've met.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:45 AM
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How bout Tooby and Cosmides? I'm also confused on whose side you're even on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:43 AM
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So in other words you don't have a real response because you don't know what any of those things are and you don't have a background in science.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:42 AM
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See my other comment. I assume you are not a scientist let alone a psychologist. I have spent my entire adult life studying human behaviour and I promise you you don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:31 AM
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Spoken like a true lay person. If you think all psych studies are correlational, or can't "explain" anything, you're wrong. Did you forget about things like transcranial magnetic stimulation? Studies of brain damaged patients? Studies where people administer intranasal oxytocin? All experimental or quasi experimental. Not to mention the ENTIRE FIELD of comparative psychology full of people poking at animal's brains. Give me a fucking break.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:30 AM
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The "brain" is highly malleable. This is a statement so vague its not even worth addressing. Preferences/mating strategies can change due to temporal conditions. Sure, this is true, and might be adaptive in and of itself. The vast majority of it is bunk, dependent on "surveys" of undergrad Western college students in a post 1960s environment. I mean I'm not going to defend every evo psych study, like the ovulating strippers one for example, but in principle I think the human brain evolved and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:26 AM
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I can tell you've never worked in a medical science lab. Do you know what its like to process tissue, stain it with an antibody, then quantify the number of stained cells under a microscope? Do you have any idea how similar that activity is to reading tea leaves? I mean there is so much room for interpretation with IHC, with western blotting, etc. Lying about the animals' genotypes. Fudging little things here and there. There is so much room for bullshitting and fraud. You would be absolutely sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:24 AM
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Never heard of her
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:14 AM
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So then you can't say eating meat is good when we can live without it just because we "evolved" to do it. if 2 things are different, you treat them differently. Tell me about how you use a vacuum cleaner as a hammer. This is the dumbest analogy I've ever heard. You can't tell what a person is like based on their gender given how much tremendous overlap there is for the behaviour of men and women. that is why the scene was so funny. Tell me what you know about Dr. Anne Campbell. No, that's exactl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:13 AM
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No, a correct psychological model does NOT need to be able to predict human behaviour. It just needs to be able to explain it. You are like 100 years behind on the philosophy of science.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:10 AM
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Give me a concrete example, please. So do you not believe the human brain evolved? How about evolutionary cognitive psychology?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:09 AM
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Well I'm a bit farther along than you on the academic track and I assure you the reproducibility crisis is not limited to psychological science.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:09 AM
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Gee, I wonder how that compares to the medical sciences? There is far more fraud there, I suspect the numbers would be the same if not worse. The reproducibility crisis in science is due to the incentive structure in academia, it doesn't really say much about the field itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:08 AM
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I think there are some good evo psych studies out there, but red pillers don't have the sense or science background to interpret them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 12:50 AM
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Added my 2c. As a vegetarian I'm unimpressed... ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 12:43 AM
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The unfortunate truth is that human interactions are too complex to be put into a theory or a model. Listen, I'm a feminist but this is absurdly and demonstrably false. So you think the ENTIRE FIELD of psychology is bullshit then? Because that's what psychologists do - they study human behaviour scientifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 12:42 AM
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I personally don't have trouble with vegetarians who do so because of political or religious reasons, even though I may disagree with them. But I absolutely cannot stand vegans, because their absolute denial of our evolution means that we cannot even share pizza together, or scrambled eggs, or cereal. I believe that men especially need meat in their diet more than women. So this is really dumb. For example, RAPE is probably an evolutionary adaptation and we don't say its good. This is a super ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 12:39 AM
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There has to be something else going on with all the paranoia.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 08:50 PM
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I actually don't have much of a problem with the quote in this article. I think its been taken somewhat out of context. The point is that you appear to be a mentally ill man who is letting those messages bother you way more than they should. I think you could benefit from talking some of these issues out with a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:20 PM
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Who cares? This was 30-40 years ago, why are you still bitching about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:16 PM
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I honestly think you have a level of paranoia about the world that seems to be influencing your ability to be happy. If you can't get over your hang ups about abortion and some radfem from 40 years ago then its your own fault you've ruined your life and ended up a 40something year old virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:15 PM
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No, I actually am a scientist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 12:40 AM
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Its OK that you're jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:10 PM
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It is painfully obvious that you are not a scientist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:10 PM
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The rape stuff is all over his history. And you don't think its possible to have a wife and not respect women? What about men who beat their wives, surely you must accept that THEY hate women to some degree, or don't respect them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:54 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:49 PM
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Its not really a gut instinct, I'm basing my feelings on this person off of what he SAID, and the fact that he clearly hates women (and I am a woman)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:49 PM
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Sorry, still doesn't even come close.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:44 PM
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Well he does seem like a rape apologist
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:43 PM
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Real life evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:43 PM
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Yes, and "your" not a software dev making even a measly 80k/year.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:42 PM
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Another post from him: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3wxbwy/trp_doesnt_give_men_what_they_want_it_just/cxzsi1z?context=3 This is wrong. The pendulum has swung back the other way and scientists now accept that groups selection happens under a limited set of circumstances. Don't take your advice from some asshole who read the selfish gene once and now thinks he's an evo biologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:17 PM
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Yeah TheGreasyPole is definitely not a scientist after looking through his posts. I definitely wouldn't call him a smartypants. For example: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3wxbwy/trp_doesnt_give_men_what_they_want_it_just/cy058x7?context=3 This is not how a scientist would respond. He's not totally wrong, but the post is wrong enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:16 PM
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More redpill pseudoscience imo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:15 PM
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Nobody wants you dead for being born male. Nobody is saying being a Christian makes you a misogynist. Stop with the straw men. I don't know if your autism is preventing you from having a meaningful relationship, but it does seem like there is something a little off there. You definitely appear to have some mental health issues. This is not women's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:08 PM
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Yeaaaaah that was a long time ago, I think you need to let that go for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:03 PM
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you're just precious aren't you!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:03 PM
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I wasn't alive then so I can't really speak to the culture back then, but I'm a militant atheist who thinks abortion is great so I can't really relate. If you're a religious man I can see why the possibility of an unplanned pregnancy would put you off sex, though. But that isn't really anybody else's fault, is it? It certainly doesn't mean the world is against you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:46 AM
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No, we mock redpillers and PUAs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:32 AM
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But for a relationship matching is what happens. YUPPP exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:31 AM
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I forgive you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:30 AM
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You realize I'm taking the piss out of this guy, right? But the sexy sons hypothesis actually has nothing to do with hypergamy, "marrying up", cuckoldry or anything of the sort in the context of evolutionary biology. The closest thing you might be able to relate it to is mate choice copying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:25 AM
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I don't know what EMPIRICAL evidence you have to suggest that women can obtain casual sex, commitment, protection and provision from men with ease. At any rate, the point is that women should not HAVE to rely on men for a roof over their heads if they CHOOSE to work. Surely no sane person would disagree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:23 AM
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You can absolutely be a fool with marketing and still be competent in certain IT related areas
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:20 AM
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Evolutionary biology is simply not physics and chemistry. They are different sciences. And philosophers of science have let go of the old idea that explanations in the life sciences can be explained in terms of chemistry which can be explained in terms of physics which can then be explained in terms of pure math. That is just not how scientists think anymore. You can't use metaphors and analogies from physics to explain human behaviour, you need actual empirical evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:15 AM
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I think I absolutely sound like it when I'm not exasperated by TRP stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:12 AM
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You're pretty determined to believe that, aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 09:53 PM
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LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Does it bother you so much that a woman has a higher level of education than you? I guess it must
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 08:47 PM
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Women who want to rely on men for provision and protection can still do it, if men are willing. I don't see what the problem is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:57 PM
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Women are a bit - but only a bit - more likely to live in low-income households than men: 21% compared with 19%. Excluding couples, single women are still a bit - but only a bit - more likely to live in low-income households than single men: 28% compared with 25%. Pretty close I'd say. source I'm sure it varies by country
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:52 PM
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Lol yes, the analogy you just made up MUST apply to evolution because it makes sense in your own head. No empirical science to see here, folks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:49 PM
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No, have you never heard of the sexy sons hypothesis? What women find attractive is what will benefit their SONS in the mating game. Its adaptive. If women don't like short men on the whole, you might as WELL be a leper or obese or have huntingtons, because your mate quality is reduced. That is what "survival of the fittest" really means - reproductive success, not "good genes" in some worthless sense of being "healthy". What good is health if no one wants to mate with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:48 PM
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Just trying to point out that you're not really that much of a catch. Feel free to look through my post history. I think it should be pretty clear that I know quite a bit about my subject. But I'm flattered that you're so impressed by a PhD
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:44 PM
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Its not about health, its about whether you are attractive or not. Ever think maybe being short signifies having shitty genes just as much as being overweight does? Why would a woman want to pass your genes on to her son if you're unattractive? That's just as bad as being unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:25 PM
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not surprising
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:23 PM
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Ever think maybe the "land whales" are actually on your level? Maybe you can't accept that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:21 PM
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So you're ugly and you're an asshole. Winning combo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:19 PM
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Sorry but some guys do. The fact that you don't value women for anything but sex is why you're having so much trouble. Full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:16 PM
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That's pretty fucked up if you think a relationship is something men do so women will give them sex. That's YOU, not everybody else
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:11 PM
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Its not that most guys can't get laid, its that you and your red pill buddies can't get laid. There's a massive selection bias going on in your sub
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:06 PM
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sure, believe what you want so in other words you make less than 100k
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:03 PM
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You have no right to take your sexual frustration out on women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:00 PM
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But then that's just too bad for you if you're not good enough to meet the threshold for casual sex - why is that anybody else's problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:52 PM
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post yours
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:52 PM
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Not sure what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:39 PM
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I mean that's a shame.. But honestly please don't listen to the "science" on TRP. If you just wanna say, "from my observations, I think women suck and I hate them" I'd almost be more OK with that than misusing and abusing evolutionary biology to make a point. I love science too much to see that happen
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:38 PM
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I have no loans. Wealthy parents. Plus my PhD program pays me. And since I said PhD, I obviously don't mean MD Your silence on the first part of my comment tells me I'm right
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:36 PM
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Here is the thing - if I had difficulty finding a partner, I would look inwards and think about what it is about me that is not attractive to men. Maybe their personalities suck?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:35 PM
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I think you're going to come to some wrong conclusions and a pretty messed up worldview if you keep doing that, as redpillers have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:28 PM
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I've heard of Models before. But that's a PUA book - he is not a scientist. This is like playing broken telephone with research. I mean, I just explained the genital arousal thing. Rape adaptation. Reading up on the evolution of rape happens to be one of my big pet topics. Nothing to do with narcissism, and no scientists I know think that. I would go ahead and say that Manson made up his own interpretation of that finding and totally twisted it around to suit his purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:27 PM
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So basically you make 100k/yr and you think that makes you rich I'm a PhD student, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:22 PM
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But hypergamy is a nonsense concept the way redpillers envision it. Its just not a scientifically accepted concept the way you guys talk about it. Here, I'll apply parental investment theory to humans right now: Humans are mostly monogamous. Therefore, humans males and females should have similar mating strategies, perhaps with slight differences. And no, but polyamory is different from polygamy...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:21 PM
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I really think you need to stop speculating, though. That is my whole complaint about TRP... Way too much baseless speculation. No, it would not be correct to say that that is why partners become distrusting of third parties. That is not what they mean by outgroup. It would be way more accurate to apply this to say, a different ethnic group or sports team.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:18 PM
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I'm not necessarily saying that's true for every redpiller, but I certainly think for a majority of them my knowledge would fall on deaf ears
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:16 PM
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sure
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:15 PM
1

LOLLLL you must be an engineer
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:15 PM
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This is a long article that I don't really have time to read right now, so I'm just skimming it - but the basic idea in the beginning of the article is that women have genital arousal in response to more nonspecific stimuli. This is not new research really, and it could mean any number of things. I'm not clear on what TRP is taking from this? I should add that I personally think that the nonspecific genital arousal thing is a rape adaptation mechanism to avoid physical damage during rape. Lots o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:13 PM
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OK, if this is what they believe I'm going to have to say that this isn't accurate scientifically. Men have just as much incentive to engage in extra-pair copulations. Human males clearly evolved to provide a TREMENDOUS amount of parental care - humans are mostly monogamous, MAYBE slightly polygamous but that is kind of up for debate. So men should form close bonds with their offspring, too. And a man would have just as much evolutionary incentive to save his child before his wife. His genetical…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:01 PM
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Please elaborate on how oxytocin relates primarily to social cognition, and less so to pair bonding. I'm not going to give an exhaustive account on the research on social cognition and oxytocin in humans because I have actual work to do, but basically intranasal oxytocin is an effective delivery method to the brain, and studies using this method have claimed that OT increases trust in humans in a laboratory setting. There was a nature paper on it in 2005. How reliable is it for us to found claim…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:55 PM
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TRP is allergic to science, so what's the point? So a bunch of men can tell me I don't know my business because I'm a woman and they know better? You actually think these people will listen to a woman scientist?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:39 PM
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Hi buddy, I am a PhD student who works on sexual selection. I know lots about evolution and as with every single other red piller I've met here, you are spouting nonsense from your own head, not science
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:38 PM
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AKA tax paying men LOLOL what country do you live in??? Half of the people on the lowest end of the income distribution are men. They're relying on the government, too. And half the work force is women. I keep forgetting that TRP is allergic to evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:36 PM
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Doubtful. And I'm not single but THANKS
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:33 PM
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Yeaaaahh thats not really true. The life sciences are dominated by women. Everything but comp sci and engineering is close to 50%, even math.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:31 PM
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doubtful
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:15 PM
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I'm sure she's a real prize if she's dating you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:20 AM
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suuure
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:17 AM
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many women have STEM degrees, asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 06:35 AM
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Also, why would a financially successful male in his 30s ever marry a woman in her 30s? That would be illogical unless she was very wealthy and/or a previous supermodel. Uhh because the 20 year olds don't want to date him? How bout that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 06:17 AM
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Focusing on them does not mean they're getting them. And I think the issue here might be that you think you're average when in reality you are far below average, or your standards are too high
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 06:14 AM
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you are one sick sad puppy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 06:06 AM
4

LOL WHAT YOU JUST SAID Oh god you don't even get it do you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 06:04 AM
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And he's racist too, ladies!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:57 AM
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I see, so you'd like to roll back the clock on women's lib and send us all back to the kitchen so we have no choice but to trade sex for security from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:52 AM
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First of all your numbers just don't work out. How is it possible that the majority of women are getting the "cream of the crop"? Also the guys on forever alone are WAAAAYYYYYYYY less than a 6 lets be honest. PS sex is not a commodity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:50 AM
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:( poor guy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:41 AM
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Yes, a fair representation. And I should add that I'd give him the benefit of the doubt if he said he'd been raped (i.e. was past the line where he couldn't reasonably say no)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:38 AM
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It really depends on how drunk. I think you can definitely be a little drunk and still be able to consent. But assuming the woman and man in this hypothetical scenario are both equally drunk, then yes I would be equally as likely to say that they've been raped. If my boyfriend was blackout drunk and a woman took advantage of him I'd feel absolutely terrible for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:32 AM
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Its all one big feminist conspiracy isn't it???????????? But actually do you not think this line of thinking is paranoid
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:26 AM
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LOL I'm dying with how bad that second article is. This is literally my field. "Teenage girls flooded with estrogen", oh dear. women's hormones, based on the evolution of their brains, tell them the way to safety is to gather in a group And Progesterone.A hormone that works in conjunction with estrogen - sometimes mellowing; sometimes the opposite. Nope Estrogen.A hormone found in much greater abundance in women than in men that enhances female brain circuits helping women master nuanced social …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:05 AM
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See this is the problem, people taking their information on evolutionary biology from non experts. And yes, I'm very familiar with Haselton and the entire UCLA evo psych research group. I'm honestly not really sure what you're talking about though. Again, TRP philosophy is not really well connected with actual science. What "data" would this be? And yes, I know her, and I don't know what paper you're referring to but I can only imagine its been misinterpreted as well... A TIME article isn't exac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:56 AM
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Ummm yes? There's no science behind this. First of all nobody does research on "love" in humans in regards to oxytocin. Second, if you think "oxytocin makes people fall in love" that tells me you don't know jack shit about oxytocin. Most of the research on oxytocin in humans has been done in the context of social cognition, NOT pair bonding. A lot of the pair bonding literature on oxytocin has been done in voles, through comparative studies trying to understand the evolution of different mating …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:45 AM
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Um I'm not sure you understand what IT entails?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:26 AM
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Doable but unlikely. Average age gap for married couples is 2 years. If you prize youth, I'm not sure why you don't think women prize youth as well. Moreover marriages with age gaps so large are less likely to be successful (and presumably happy)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:37 PM
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For IT positions? What the fucking fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 06:09 AM
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LOL no 20something is going to marry you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 06:03 AM
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My PhD is on the neuroscience of sex differences and sexual selection. I don't usually work with humans but for a side project I'm working on that maybe has some evo psych implications, but I'm very familiar with the literature. The problem with making an OP here is that the men all think they know better when it comes to the science, because they read some account of an account of an account of some evolutionary psychology paper that someone with no science background misinterpreted. Reading wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:01 PM
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Well what do you usually try to read about? There are lots of great books on sex differences, evolutionary psychology, etc. Its my PhD work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:22 PM
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If you had the background to understand it, I'd say original sources are good (i.e. a pubmed search or even going on google scholar). Unfortunately most of those articles are behind a paywall and you can't read them unless you have institutional access. Looking at some open source journals might be OK, but again, you might not be able to understand the jargon. Maybe blogs of individual scientists? Well written science books by well-regarded researchers?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:16 PM
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"bio truths"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:15 PM
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No, you're saying we should have to think about why you hate us. Its much more similar to my example
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 02:45 AM
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It's hard to debate in good faith with a group of men who think I am subhuman. It's not a journal. I'd maybe call it a magazine. I would recommend against getting your science info from there because I find the science reporting to be somewhat inaccurate. It is definitely not an academic source, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 02:44 AM
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LOLOLOL at you thinking psychology today is an academic source
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 02:19 AM
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That's like saying black people should worry about why white supremacists don't like them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 02:17 AM
1

sex differences in likelihood of believing false statements, or manipulative media claims, could easily get published in a psych journal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 02:15 AM
1

Is it? It seems like those sentiments are pretty much everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 02:12 AM
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Mostly the parts where men openly say that women are stupid, emotional, and that they hate them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 02:09 AM
1

Oh give me a break, I publish controversial research in academia. It's not that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 02:08 AM
1

that women are more easily "brainwashed" by buzzwords. a scientific source
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 01:41 AM
1

what points, your anecdotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 01:40 AM
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Source, please
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 01:36 AM
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Dude, you are so far down the rabbit hole of TRP crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 01:33 AM
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It's not groundless, there's a relationship between misogynistic attitudes and use of sexually coercive tactics/rape
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 12:14 AM
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Yeah, I think you might have been sheltered.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 09:49 PM
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Here's hoping you stay an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 08:32 PM
1

You know, lots of women don't like "highly muscular" men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 07:40 PM
1

I'm very sorry to hear that you were sexually abused, that must have been very difficult to overcome. It sounds like through a confluence of some less than wise decisions and bad circumstances you haven't had much luck in love. Maybe you've put some unnecessary and artificial limitations on your choices, like waiting to have sex and date. I don't think sitting around reading anti-feminist nonsense is going to help you, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 07:39 PM
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Well I don't hate you, but the Christian anti-abortion thing is a bit of a turn off. I really don't think anything is skewed against you for your penis. Can't you imagine what it would be like to be a woman in a world where many men still don't think we should even have the vote? I imagine having autism makes things harder socially, which is probably why you feel persecuted. But having shitty social skills would make anyone's life harder. People want attractive, social partners with great person…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:26 PM
1

no but for real, you have mental issues
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:44 PM
1

........? yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:40 PM
1

lolol im dying
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:34 PM
1

Read it, not even a fraction
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:31 PM
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Your condescension is suuuuuuuuper cute too. I do the negging, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:21 PM
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Kidding of course, the worst offender was a total stranger. He tried to neg me, I excoriated him, and as his friend was dying of laughter he explained to me that the guy was using PUA techniques, which I had never heard of at the time. No idea why he thought that'd make him more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:00 PM
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He's not facing jail time because he's a man. He's facing jail time because someone accused him of harassment, which he may or may not have done. He doesn't seem like a good dude, so I wouldn't be surprised by much. And this is reddit, not a court of law. We don't even know his identity so don't give me that "rape victims are unreliable" bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:55 PM
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No as in, you're writing word salad. Your writing is not comprehensible. At any rate, if the accusations of being creepy/being a rapist keep piling up for you, maybe its time to look inward.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:53 PM
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Hardly a contemporary example, and she did not say she wanted to massacre 90% of the male population. She hated trans women, too, and was not receptive to the concerns of feminists of colour. Not exactly well liked among feminists. How about you show me a sub on reddit that has even a fraction of the hate for men that the red pill does for women? It doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:49 PM
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You're getting down voted because you're a raging misogynist, buddy Ugh, I'd dump you too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:41 PM
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Harassment, not rape. And?? First of all, he's an unreliable narrator. How do we know he didn't harass her? Second, even if he didn't, a false accusation from one crazy girlfriend justifies him saying this: Women are disloyal, immoral, selfish, and arguably worst of all, oblivious. ?????? As I said, maybe there's a reason his relationships don't work out. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:38 PM
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nahh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 08:16 AM
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So basically you're ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 08:05 AM
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Bahahahahhaah I'll have to find him and let him know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 07:57 AM
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I've been hit on by guys using these techniques. Did not work. I found out later, as I was reading The Game, what exactly they were doing. Honestly I was skeeved out by the guys that tried to pull PUA tricks. I think they were quite embarrassed at how miserably they failed. I don't know any women who have fallen for PUAs, but then again I have smart friends. I don't think its a common occurrence. On another note, do you think guys who read PUA materials know how impressionable and gullible they …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 07:39 AM
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We say "All cis men must die." mmm no one is saying that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 07:35 AM
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Most men burned through no fault of their own don't take those experiences and use them as fuel for their extreme misogyny. Men who are good people don't, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:34 AM
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So he's bitter from a few bad experiences, possibly deserved since he seems like such a fucking PRIZE, and you think its cool to hate all women as a result? Makes total sense to meeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:28 AM
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I find them to be psychotic women haters
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:01 AM
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For the record, after looking through his posts, if he's not quite and FA he might as well be. Definitely not successful with women.. Wonder why? Maybe women don't like hooking up with men who LOATHE women??? hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 03:56 AM
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omg THANKSSSSS for for shattering my delusions
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 03:52 AM
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You have to be an FA right? There's no way you aren't. Disturbing to see that you're a teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:35 AM
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yup
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:23 AM
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Men with misogynistic attitudes towards women are more likely to be rapists. I think the red pill fits the bill nicely
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 03:55 PM
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Soon funny omg lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 03:50 PM
-2

What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 03:50 PM
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Ditto.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 04:52 AM
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Of course its easier at 18. Ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 04:52 AM
-8

Let's be honest, many RPers probably ARE rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 04:51 AM
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