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They’re still on the plantation, jumping through hoops to please women, just like the nice guys. The only way to break free is to go your own way, lift for yourself if you want, read the books you want to read. It’s weak and insecure to change your hobbies and personality just because you will score better in the dating game. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 02:04 AM
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Wow, some absolutely clueless answers here, and explains why so many women list their least attractive features on dating apps and proudly present themselves as some weathered and tattooed drunken sailor. So many here think it’s just physical and can’t fathom how masculine character traits can be extremely unattractive on a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:54 AM
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I’m very high IQ actually. My conclusion is precisely a result of logic and rationality not being overshadowed by irrational feelings and wishful thinking. Sure, women can be friends, especially with other women, but a woman in a relationship is more like an occasionally friendly adversary that puts demands on you. Better to be unattached and free. Come to think of it, women are often deceitful and demanding with their so-called friends, so maybe it’s difficult for them to understand how easy an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:09 AM
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You can get companionship from friends. Friends don’t nag and put performative and financial pressure on you. You can just be yourself and in peace. Most women provide the opposite of that in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:37 AM
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Since you are so smart about relationships, can you explain why a man would want a relationship with a modern woman? What’s in it for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:22 AM
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It’s not the same feeling being actually wanted as having to pay for sex. I was answering your suggestion that I should just have a regular prostitute. Many relationships have the same transactional vibe to them, which is offputting. Recurring sex with the same person that actually wants it is the best. No need to mix up belongings and argue who should do the dishes for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:52 AM
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Even a casual hookup is usually based on raw desire, which is what most men would prefer to being wanted for their bank account or material accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:13 PM
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Yeah, well I’m not really into cohabiting. I have tried it and never experienced the woman doing all the housework. If she does, she’s building up quiet resentment and collecting armaments to use in the next argument. There’s always some strings attached and a man can never just be relaxed and calm when cohabiting with a woman. There are other options between having casual hookups and living together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:10 PM
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That is not a legal option where I live. Also wouldn’t give the same feeling as someone wanting to have sex with you. I’m far from alone feeling like this. Just check out the dating and askmen subreddits. There is something badly broken in the relations between the sexes and only one of them is looking in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:30 AM
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For most men, a relationship is the cost of consistent access to sex. What other benefits do you think it brings to men? It’s also a consistent source of headache, drama, risk, needless expenditure, walking on egg shells, feeling pressured to perform in all aspects of life 24/7. Even sex in a relationship often becomes a chore, because men are expected to lead and perform all the time and can never just relax. Ultimately it’s a cost-benefit comparison between having to jump through the initial r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:19 AM
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The thing is, these demands are being imposed by women of all political stripes. I’ve been on and off dating apps for almost a decade, and women’s behavior and expectations are universally basically the same. They wait for the man to initiate, carry the conversation, lead into a date and pay for the date. Professed convictions about equality etc. are really just external camouflage and virtue signaling that mean nothing in the context of heterosexual male-female relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:55 AM
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Moral of the story: Men, don’t move in with women. As a divorced man, I couldn’t agree more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:40 PM
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By the time men realize this many will drop out of the work force or simply exert the bare minimum effort for survival. Most men don’t care about shiny new things or climbing the corporate ladder. They do it for women. Women give them purpose, but also want shiny new things and push them to further themselves in the rat race.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 06:46 PM
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“Liberal” women have conservative values when it comes to dating and attraction. They don’t want effeminate leftist men who treat them as equals, because polarity is attractive, they like to be approached, led etc. Conservative men have more masculine hobbies, interests etc. and look more athletic and masculine as a result. So they receive interest from these women and think they can work out the political differences later. Women also tend to be more accommodating when it comes to values and op…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:49 AM
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Modern women act like men in every other circumstance, except in the context of dating. Men have adapted to the new reality that women said they wanted. Time to catch up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:53 AM
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No, it’s not. Women used to choose professions where their nurturing qualities were appreciated. Besides, work is not be all end all of society. Emulating and competing with men has not really left women in a favorable position. They sacrifice femininity, marriage and motherhood so they can please a boss at a corporation that doesn’t care about them. They become like the men they want, but those men don’t want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:40 AM
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I don’t think the average man is even complimented much for his compentency. Most of us are just flawed humans like anyone else and work is just a way to earn a living, not something that gives us big meaning or purpose. It used to be a man’s worth and pride, but now that women are outperforming men in most educational and professional areas it’s not something that sets men apart. That said, it’s nice to be complemented by peers who know what you do, but in the context of dating it comes across …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:55 AM
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Female fallacy: I have a degree, a great career and generally have my sh*t together. I have travelled the world, seen everything, tried everything. I also have some very cool tattoos and am great at banter/fluent in sarcasm (my friends think I’m hilarious!). I should be a great catch for any man, but so few are worth my time. Where have all the good men gone? Male consensus: She has basically made herself into a mirror image of the man she wants, but he’s not attracted to men so he doesn’t find …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:09 PM
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So you only want to sleep with someone who looks down on you and is so embarrassed about having sex with you that he won’t tell anyone about it. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:48 AM
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I have a top level comment saying what I said above. If anything, it’s harder for men because we have to get and maintain an erection when we don’t really want to. No, we’re not all horny teenagers who get hard anytime. You seem to only want to read the comments that support your position and ignore the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:29 PM
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Why are you linking to the automod comment? Lots of comments that say yes, we men do duty sex. Getting “compensated” for sex is called being a prostitute. If you want that, you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:47 PM
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The answers to that post you linked had lots of examples of men doing sexual things out of duty. When a woman wants sex, she feels undesirable if a man she is seeing turns down sex. If it’s a new encounter it will ruin the chances of seeing her again, if it’s a partner it will stain the relationship. Reddit has lots of posts with women complaining about men’s physical performance that they have no control over, as if it’s a judgment on the woman. Should men get “compensated” for trying their bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:03 AM
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Of course, but I was talking about PIV.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:17 AM
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Not all women want that. They all want penetration or else it doesn’t count. Sometimes it’s easier said than done, but one tries ones best anyway because it’s what’s expected, a duty. Personally I would be happy just giving oral sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:53 AM
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Yes, both when with a partner and when going home with someone new. When with a new woman it is expected that the man will escalate towards sex, if the circumstances are right and there is an unspoken expectation from both sides. I may want to wait longer, but if it’s not happening she will probably never see me again, so there’s a duty to have sex. When having sex there’s also a duty to perform certain assertiveness, whether I feel like it or not. There’s a lot of unspoken duties that men have …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 10:46 PM
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I never call people dumb. Doing dumb things sometimes does not equate your whole being. I maybe correct the error, preferrably one-on-one not to humiliate in front of others, but more often than not I just pretend to not notice it like most people do. After all I don’t want to be accused of “mansplaining” or “patronizing” and receive an HR call because of that. In today’s culture it’s safest to minimize all interaction with women in the workplace. So I just let them do dumb things uninterrupted …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:30 PM
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Why is that such a sensitive topic though? Everybody does dumb things from time to time, but only women are never to be called out for it? I see so much dumbness and incompetency be overlooked and brushed over daily because of the V card. Being called out for it can be a learning experience that builds resilience and competency. But women are such fragile flowers that are never wrong and never do dumb things, to their own knowledge at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:58 AM
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I was married to a woman for years and she never once admitted she was wrong or apologized for anything she did or said. She’d turn it around to make me look like the bad guy and her the victim, rather than admitting that I won the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:47 AM
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The Counselor has some great lines, for example this: “Men are attracted to flawed women too of course, but their illusion is that they can fix them. Women don't want to fix anything. They just want to be entertained. The truth about women is you can do anything to them except bore them.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 02:33 PM
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Not exactly RP, so posting this here… TRP has now seeped into mainstream culture. Every other post on dating, relationship and sex subreddits reflects a redpilled understanding of the world. TRP was just earlier, saying things that men were not allowed to say in polite society, but reflect the experience of men worldwide. Are you happy that you learned the truth about Santa Claus? Would you like to go back and unlearn that? Ignorance is bliss, but knowledge is power. It doesn’t exactly bring hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 01:44 PM
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I guess what I’m saying is not exactly about changing my desires, but finding my actual wants and desires totally irrelevant in the dating market and doing the complete opposite because it’s the only thing women will accept. So in a way I’m forced and shamed by “society” to perform certain acts, that can be desirable to me — certainly more so than no action at all, but it’s not what I’m most naturally inclined to do. So I adjust my desires to what is available, rather than expecting women to adj…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:28 AM
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Nobody cares what men want really. We just have to perform this stereotyped role that women imagine and expect us to be. All the dating subs are flooded with men saying they don’t feel like doing all the work in dating, but nobody cares. Women make the rules and say it’s men’s nature to be the leaders and initiators, to absolve them of any responsibility for making these demands. Women have abandoned their natural role and men don’t feel like going through the motions anymore, but we don’t have …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:02 PM
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I have been more dominant during sex than I want, because that is what’s expected of me. I have also been more assertive in dating than feels natural or comfortable for me, because that is the only way anything happens most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:26 AM
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Are you sure about that blue pill tag?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:04 AM
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Someone here said that men are socialized to be sexually assertive. Maybe in a far gone past, but men today are not socialized to be sexually assertive. OP is talking about how men are actually socialized, with fear and shame and little to no rewards, to be sexually timid and always on the lookout not to be called a creep. Yet, nothing happens if a man doesn’t take the initiative at some point. The always polite gentleman goes home alone, leaving the woman to the reckless man of action and initi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:23 PM
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I met a long term partner at that time. It didn’t work out, but I know what dating was like then and it was a completely different world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:43 PM
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Or just average or even above average. Women think they have more options but are actually on rotation between the same guys, who have access to more women now with dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:18 PM
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Men can spot an abusive asshole miles away. Women could too, but that would make them have to confront the idea that they find bad guys attractive and make them responsible for their own risk taking choices, and we wouldn’t want that to happen, because women are wonderful and nothing can challenge that axiom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:53 AM
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Hot take — They don’t actually disagree on any of these, they just have varying degrees of honesty about it. Unattractive women want to be approached more. Attractive women want to be able to go about their day without constant male attention. In reality both are completely fine if an attractive mind reader approaches them. They just want unattractive men to be mind readers also and stay in their lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:44 AM
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First hand experience. Those guys just gain popularity because they say the quiet part out loud and it resonates with the lived experience of men universally. I’m just meaning TRP influencers in general — Tate is a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:40 AM
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No there wasn’t. It was a completely different era. Dating has been in the shitter since the advent of dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:36 AM
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Only thing that apps improve is that at least I know some women like the way I look. Before the apps I had never had a woman indicate that in any way that I noticed. But talking to them is like talking to a wall. Less than 50% chance of ever getting a response, and of those 90% fizzle out quickly unless I carry the conversation all by myself. It’s so draining and boring. I hate the way dating works today and how the burden of not making it dry and totally uninteresting is all on the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:41 AM
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Do you recognize the struggles men face in the modern world? Do you want to do anything about it? Didn’t think so. We’re done with appeasing the demands to change the whole of society just because some individuals have problems. Fix your own problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:47 PM
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I don’t live any type of lifestyle or look any different from the next man. I’m a thinking, creative man who works out regularly and looks strong. My mind just goes blank when certain topics such as sports come up and I really have to push myself to be assertive or competitive, because I have no inherent drive for it. I don’t care about status or power at all, but I understand why men would seek that just to live up to women’s expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:33 AM
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That’s great that you have a partnership that works. If you are Gen X like me we come from a different world where women were allowed to be tomboys and still be women. I also didn’t feel as rigidly pushed into a certain role as a man in my 20s. Now the message is that you’re either the rigidly stereotypical man or you should have your penis cut off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:18 AM
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Being the wrong type of man makes it painfully obvious what works and what does not. I’m not opposed to masculine presenting women at all. I just recognize that I’m not normal. I believe it’s a mixture of nature and nurture. Nurture should aim to induce the person to emulate the ideals, the divine masculine or feminine etc. I myself was always passive and non-assertive and not interested in sports etc. and no amount of nurture could change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:07 AM
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Yes, I believe that’s the way for balance and happiness. To appreciate the different qualities in the opposite sex and reach a balance together.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:54 AM
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As every woman I have ever met, yes, I am a gender essentialist, in the sense that I observe how the vast majority of people function. Personally I like assertive, smart women, but they tend to like even more assertive and smart men. The polarity doesn’t work the other way around, and Yang-Yang relations are practically homosexual in this archetypal sense. I wish women were less dictated by their nature, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:46 AM
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I’m explaining what you didn’t understand previously in the language of emojis
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:35 AM
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I’m not talking about what we as a society value. I’m talking about what men as men are drawn to in women. These are sexual archetypes and polarity. Women as the Yin to men’s Yang. This has been so for millenia and will survive feminism. Women want men to be assertive/active. Being passive is the feminine energy that invites and inspires the active energy. Women don’t want men to change their sexual energy, but they themselves have emulated men’s sexual energy and expect men’s incentives to stay…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:31 AM
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Some women a child free by choice or circumstances. That’s a exception to the rule. Most women start thinking very carefully about securing resources for their children by the age of 30. That’s when dates become like job interviews for men and being fun and spontanious matters less if it’s not coupled with secure finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:16 AM
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🎯
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:06 AM
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Are you childless?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:37 PM
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Women are more generous, open-minded and explorative when they have not set their mind on settling down and building a nest for a baby. That’s when the internal conservatism kicks in, coupled with external progressivism for bluff and virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:47 PM
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✅
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:43 PM
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No, it’s not the same for women. Passivity is a foundational feminine attribute. You are projecting. Is this why gender relations are in such a bad shape? Women adopting core masculine characteristics and wondering why men don’t treat them like they used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:40 PM
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You must be in your 20s. By the time the biological clock starts ticking loudly, (almost) all women march in the same direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:31 PM
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You asked how and why
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:10 PM
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BTW here is my answer to your post, as I understood it: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/8ufwO79T90
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:08 PM
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BTW here is my answer to your post, as I understood it: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/8ufwO79T90
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:07 PM
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Can you read the above? If these are the conditions then this is a stupid debate. If you are strictly asking about some weird condition of woman-phobia then you you can disregard all the answers. You’re not going to find anyone here with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:58 PM
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This is a very narrow interpretation of your disclaimer. Of course women can’t be avoided completely, but we can keep interactions down to the bare minimum to get a job done, do a transaction etc. No unnecessary offering to help, smiling, small talking, joking etc. These are interactions that should be normal in a sane world, but now pose a risk to men’s wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:34 PM
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I’m only generalizing about women’s attraction to status, power and wealth, which no honest person can deny. The general trend is that a woman with a sense of humor is attractive, meaning that she laughs at his jokes. Women who are actually funny are more rare, but not unheard of. Usually they don’t make a business out of it, which men are forced to do to transform it into success and $$$.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:59 AM
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We can observe a general trend and compare books worldwide and throughout history. Exceptions do not disprove the general trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:29 AM
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But only a certain kind. Men are also attracted to women who keep a low profile and don’t flaunt their charisma or humor with others. The underlying criteria for women is always whether it can be translated to actual status hierarchies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:18 AM
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What do you mean by personalities? Women are concerned with literal hierarchies in power, status and wealth. Personality might play a part in that, but only a certain kind of personality that can be utilized for the accumulation of power, status or wealth. Charisma and humour is attractive, if it can be used to command attention and increase your status. If it’s only in private or self-deprecating but hilarious, it’s still useless. A sense of style is attractive. Uniforms are often attractive to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:10 AM
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Easy. I don’t want to get accused of sexual harrassment. I’m not unattractive and women are often interested, from a distance at least. I remember MeToo. I have seen the sites and facebook groups where women post supposedly private conversations for all to see. I have seen the gym candid cameras where women call men creeps for looking in their general direction, while they themselves are wearing outfits that leave nothing to the imagination, exposing their ass and the outline of their vagina. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:45 AM
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Men who don’t inherently get it need some guidance to grasp the terrible truth of it. You realize that those who do get it intuitively think the same way as TRP, they just have the sense to not speak about it or have no moral qualms about it. Is that in some way better?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:42 PM
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TRP is shocking, infuriating for most normal men when they first encounter it. It’s like learning that the protagonist you identified with in a movie is actually the antagonist and vice versa. Nobody wants that to be true. But then it correlates with the lived experience of men all over globe, basically everywhere where women have their own agency in mate selection. And there is no compelling counter-theory, only efforts to silence and shut down the sharing of this information.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:03 PM
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Because they already get it. TRP is for those who were naive enough to believe the official script.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:30 PM
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Wow I read that the opposite way. He said he was lonely and she said she was not going to visit him. Still all his fault. Not very clearly worded.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:05 AM
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I talk mostly to women who match me on dating apps. They seem to deem me in their league, physically at least. It usually doesn’t go anywhere because 1) they never respond or 2) I don’t chase or pretend to be more assertive than I am. The experience that dating apps have given us men, with research samples counting in thousands, does indeed indicate that women are a monolith regarding their expectations of male behavior in the context of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 05:27 PM
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It’s not just my experience. It is what it is. Since you are interested in the topic you could do some research. Just look at groups lile Available Cuckolds on FL — desperate men posting personals with no responses. The only remotely similar group for women is Alpha Female Cuckoldresses for Alpha Male Cucks. It’s mostly scammers and women advertising their OF page or “findom” services.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:18 PM
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As the name implies, I would like to be a cuckold, but it’s impossible to find a woman who wants that from the start. It usually happens when people are already in a relationship, and then the woman is not all dominant because she gets her submissive needs met by others. But it sure is a type of FLR. In the freak cases where single women are seeking such an arrangement, they have a long list of how “alpha” and confident and successful the potential cuck should be, so it’s not really any differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 10:04 AM
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If it’s never said out in the open it’s not so common, is it? Men are not born with an internal manual of how to navigate life. They may be born with instincts, but are then told all their life by parents, teachers, role models etc. to go against their instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:48 AM
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Yes, that’s why these men need to change if they want to date. “Be yourself” only works if you already fit inside the narrow definition of how women want men to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:44 AM
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I don’t get the impression that OP hates himself or wants to be someone else. He wants men who are not confident or dominant to just be themselves and women to adapt to it, even embrace it. In some alternative universe maybe, but it’s not going to happen in this one. “Be yourself” as an advice to these men mainly serves as a way to keep them out of the dating pool. It serves women’s purpose of genetic gatekeeping, but doesn’t help these men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:57 AM
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As a middle aged submissive/switch I can say with some certainty that the availability of this option is definitely not the case. These women are maybe one in a million. They can’t be found even on the most popular kink platform, and if they do, there’s almost always some cuckolding involved, or money exchange. These women either need dominance on the side or they treat it like a job — it’s almost never their first choice. If you manage to find a woman who is strictly dominant, monogamous and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:39 AM
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No one else is saying it, so it deserves some credit. TBP is saying “be nice and supportive, be yourself, listen to her, go to therapy, take anxiety drugs instead of working out, don’t say what you want, ask for permission, support all these weird causes women are into,…” Everyone else is just working against men’s interests, so it’s no wonder men are drawn to the honesty and real-world applicability of TRP, flawed as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:30 AM
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Alice isn't a confrontational go-getter. She wants to date someone who is. 99.99% of women want the same thing. Bob should realize that he either learns to swim or he sinks - at least in this area of life. Maybe he learns to be happy alone or starts to wonder if he is gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:28 AM
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Why do you think we have the trans agenda? "Either be a real alpha man or be a woman" is the message from mainstream culture. Nothing in between, no gray area. In the past there was a recognition of diversity of male and female characteristics within the heterosexual framework. Women could be tomboys and still be women. Men could be sophisticated gentlemen and still be men. The agenda of DEI does not foster human diversity at all. They are the wolves in sheep's clothing, pretending to be friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:16 AM
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No, I oppose racists and fascists. As the modern left, they are the enemies of the liberal values that are the foundation of western civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:51 AM
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Yeah, lots of grown men are not in their right mind. I think you can read just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:57 PM
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If this is a thing…same reason they don’t want to date men who wear dresses. Deep down they know their professed voting habits are silly virtue signaling and posturing and no grown man in his right mind would vote like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:34 PM
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All true. No one said it should be easy. The hardest part for a woman is to resist the tricks. The hardest part for a man is to become the trickster. Men are not rewarded in any way whatsoever for being nice and honest, which is often their default mode. Women are rewarded for being nice, honest, modest and not actively destroying their body with obesity, tattoos, weird haircuts or septum rings that no male in the known universe finds attractive — yet so many can’t resist the urge to do just tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:48 PM
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She has the power to not say yes to every “high value” man who approaches her. She also has the choice to not get tattoos or weird piercings. Most of what lowers women’s value are things she chooses for herself, experiences had or damage done to her body or soul. Women are not cars, but as an analogy, every mileage on a car lowers its value. Women value experience in men up to a point — it’s not vice versa. Women seem to value more a car that has been to interesting places or won a race. Men don…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:56 AM
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Most men want a madonna who is “whore” internally, but only for him. Nobody wants to date an actual whore/sex worker. I like sluts that enjoy sex for its own sake, but doing it for money ruins the appeal, makes it fake and transactional. Sex is a sacred act to be enjoyed exclusively or freely — not monetized. The point is, madonnas who have a healthy appetite for sex are much more appealing to most men than sluts/whores, both regarding sex and relationships. BB or “nice guys” are not sexually ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:22 AM
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This is a great reply, and very revealing. Please share your emotions and vulnerabilities, but be aware that everything you say may be used against you in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:46 PM
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It’s the same as with height. I have never heard a man say about a woman “wow, she is so small” but I have heard women express extreme admiration of a tall man, as if it’s a great accomplishment to be born a certain way. However, men usually steer away from taller women, not because they are “intimidated” by them or find them unattractive, but because they know women overwhelmingly prefer someone taller than themselves. Same with income, status, power, assertiveness etc. Whatever of these qualit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:27 PM
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Too much truth in this post, hence the downvotes. Women don’t like when their poker cards are revealed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 11:02 PM
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I think he’s saying it’s not the “bare minimum” when it doesn’t seem to factor into attraction at all. Your response is just an excuse to make women seem more ethical. The “bad boy” seems genuinely more attractive to women. He also takes initiative and can be entirely blamed if something goes wrong. The woman can always say “I thought he was good, which is a bare minimum for me” and be free from any responsibility for her choices. Being with a “bad man” removes responsibility and agency from the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:43 AM
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I get what you’re saying, but cheating on your girlfriend is not the answer to her witholding sex and affection from you. Instead you should withold romantic gestures, big life plans, relationship stuff. Men are the gatekeepers of relationship commitment. All the boring “boyfriend material” duties, meeting her grandmother, buying furniture together or whatever, are the actions that only a boyfriend can provide and she values highly. Anyone can provide her with sex, but you get the “privilege” of…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 07:37 AM
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If you removed sex and intimacy from the world completely Then the world would simply fall apart. Everything people do is because of sex, the promise of sex or the results of sex. People who think otherwise are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:57 PM
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I know, if you consider a need only what is absolutely necessary for subsisting. If you want to increase human flourishing in the world you might want to include sex as an important factor in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:47 PM
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I guess you could just as well say that freedom, human dignity and social relations are not needs. Food beyond oat meal or bugs is not an actual necessity. Not being in chains or having any say over how the hours of your life are spent is not necessary for survival. It may be necessary for the continuation of your genes, for a sense of fulfillment in life, but so is sex for most people, and sex is not a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:02 AM
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Are most men really that good at picking flowers? I have an eye for visual things, but I’d rather pick from the already assembled bouquets. There are people who are specialized experts in this, and most of them are women or gay men. Why is it a straight man’s duty to do something he’s really not good at, like picking flowers, jewelry or even restaurants? Usually it’s this weird guessing game where a man tries to figure out something the woman already has a perfect conception of in her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:15 AM
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The majority of men are, by definition, average, and thus struggle to get any matches. They are not trying to limit their options any more than they already are, so they cast as wide a net as possible. The criteria for a right swipe is “would”, based solely on the pictures. Some will even swipe right on every profile without looking. The simultaneous cause and effect of this is that women are drowning and men are starving. Which is also why it would make sense for a woman to want to limit her op…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:53 AM
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Why on Earth would a straight man take salsa classes if not for the purpose of meeting women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:18 AM
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It’s a good way to weed out the men that would take dating advice from women. Same with women encouraging men to talk about their feelings, to go gay, go trans etc. Less weak and undesirable men in the dating pool, so they can focus on the men who won’t let women control them and actually go after what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:19 PM
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Many men don’t give a sh**t about career advancement and wealth accumulation, beyond the bare necessities, if there is no reward for it in the form of sex and relationships. They do it for women. As women advance in career accomplishments and status they expect men to advance even more. No man asked for that and most are not capable of that. We are being expected to have superhuman capabilities. It’s not sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:52 PM
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I’m gen X and it’s sarcastic with a grain of truth in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:30 AM
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I said there is this one old guy who does it, out of dozens I meet every week in the locker room, and everybody feels weird about it, especially gen z. He probably doesn’t get much action at home and is trying to compensate for it, or has some personal problems. It’s just pathetic and weak to be unable to keep quiet about something that is supposed to be private and confidential, such as your personal sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:17 AM
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Yeah, I’m older, but if I have to recall anyone it’s mostly this one older guy who has no filter and makes everyone uncomfortable, especially the gen z guys. Locker rooms are where men can let their guard down and stop putting on an act and play tough like they do in front of women. It’s more likely that they would share some struggles or complement one another than talk about sex. Women need to get over themselves. The world doesn’t revolve around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:07 PM
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“Male locker room talk” is mostly a myth, a projection that women make to excuse their utter lack of discretion when sharing intimate details of their sex life with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:59 PM
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You don’t get it. The guys are looking for the same thing, a one night stand. They have a different type that they prefer. The women all prefer the same type. That is the observation OP is pointing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:31 AM
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So I guess we mostly agree? Women seem to be happier staying single rather than pairing with anyone less than ideal. They also have a good safety net and support from other women and society at large. A large majority of men will have to adapt to the reality of being unwanted by women, now that monogamy is not “forced” upon them. These men will have to find something else to devote their energy to and form better support networks with other men.
/r/MensRights17/07/24 12:12 PM
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You’re not very good at reading between the lines are you? IMO feminism is doomed from the start because 50% of humanity is unwilling and unable to change the most fundamental source of inequality in the world; the female desire to mate with the strongest, most badass male who dominates his social environment and crushes all the competition. Men are perfectly able to devise and maintain a relatively egalitarian civilization, and did for a long time, until hypergamy was unleashed, ruining the soc…
/r/MensRights17/07/24 09:52 AM
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I didn’t say anyone should be forced to change, just that men are more adaptable and able to change. Women also change, mostly for the worse from men’s perspective, but not in anything related to reproduction. No judgment here, just an observation. Women will never change into not being repulsed by men showing weakness and vulnerability.
/r/MensRights17/07/24 09:12 AM
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No, I think men are more able to rise above their nature. Feminism would work perfectly if men were in charge of it. Hypergamy ruins everything.
/r/MensRights17/07/24 08:34 AM
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That’s one of the differences between men and women. Men build civilizations and aspire to the stars. Women are inherently tied to nature through the process of reproduction, menstrual cycles etc. Nature can be chaotic and turbulent, so they need men to be strong, ordered and stoic to help them navigate through it.
/r/MensRights17/07/24 01:25 AM
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If you realize this, then why did you insist towards the end of the OP that this is something wrong with society or culture that needs to be changed? This is nature right here and it will never be changed.
/r/MensRights12/07/24 01:58 AM
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How do you get a job if you haven’t had a job before? Confidence in what you have to offer. Fake it till you make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 07:18 AM
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That’s the point of NOT swiping right on someone you don’t want to talk to. It’s already there in all the dating apps, yet women complain that they get unwanted messages from men that they themselves matched with by swiping right.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/05/24 05:18 PM
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As women have gained more equality in society they increasingly crave more extreme forms of inequality and subjugation in the bedroom. It’s the taboo factor. As a conservative who knows and accepts the natural differences between the sexes, I find female domination of the male incredibly sexy, so I understand the dynamic from another perspective. Transgressing what we profess to believe outwardly, with a trusted partner in a safe and controlled environment, is arousing. But I’ll agree with you i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:31 PM
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This pretty much nails it for me. There is also post-nut-clarity. You find out after you had sex that there is something really annoying about her personality, she doesn't look that great naked, didn't bother to shave her legs, has warts or whatever. People reveal their vulnerabilities when they have sex, both physical and personality wise. I have very seldom had sex with the intention of never seeing her again, but the clarity of not seeing her through horny goggles combined with the proximity …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 10:59 PM
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I’m interested, and have had some, but it’s hard to find women who can be really casual and sincere about it. It’s like you still have to match on so many levels other than the physical, even if neither of us wants anything more. It’s just too much hard work, too much beating around the bush, having to take all the initiative but not too strongly, having to prove your worth in other aspects of life that are completely irrelevant to a casual encounter. The juice is generally not worth the squeeze…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:15 PM
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Are dating apps really to blame? They just give you a perspective that you wouldn’t otherwise get. The sheer quantity of it just makes you realize how everybody is almost exactly the same.
/r/Divorce_Men09/04/24 06:36 PM
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Because men care about big picture civilization stuff, not only their own selfish ass. Now the real question is why is that so hard to comprehend for so many women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:46 AM
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Friendships with women outside your family should be only when necessary, for example in a work or academic environment, and strictly professional. I’m self-aware enough to know that if I keep contact with a woman who is not a relative or colleague, it’s because I want sex with her. And I know these relations come and go, some will keep in contact when in a relationship, some will not. It’s not a big deal, since I know the nature of these relationships and would do the same if they made it clear…
/r/MensRights23/03/24 07:31 AM
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Fair enough. If the OP was about polyromantic relationships, you are correct, but the broad definition of polyamory is “the practice of multiple romantic or sexual relationships with the knowledge and consent of all partners”. Countless couples disagree with you and claim that wives in cuckold relationships do in fact love their husbands. They may also develop feelings for the extramarital sexual partner, which I would agree is treading on thin ice, but usually he is only providing sexual thrill…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:03 AM
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I don’t know anyone who is happy or successful on dating apps. I get lots of matches myself, but it always fades out because the women don’t engage enough and I’m not motivated enough to be the sole pursuer. Photos don’t do enough to spark that initial flame, unless they are exactly my type, in which case they are usually distracted by too many suitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:40 PM
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But if she is doing that, how is she pretending? Isn’t AF/BB just the natural way? The unstable but sexy alpha fucks, the stable but unsexy beta is cucked. The BB gets a nice sexy wife who is his personal pornstar and sometimes allows him oral or sloppy seconds. The AF gets premium access to sex with her with no strings attached. She gets best of both worlds. Everybody wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:12 PM
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Are you sure “emotionally unavailable” is the correct phrase here? A man who is not overly emotional himself is more available to listen to a woman yap about her own emotions, which is all that really matters to her. It’s about the woman’s emotions and how the man can be useful for her and how he can make her feel. She doesn’t want him to whine about his own emotions — she wants him to be a rock that doesn’t break when she gets all emotional and chaotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:09 PM
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She’s just playing mind games. Probably had rebound sex herself soon after the divorce. She’s just doing this as part of the scorched earth strategy and doesn’t want you to be able to be happy again. If she hurts you you can heal and come back stronger and hold her accountable. If she destroys you completely you can’t. That’s what she’s currently trying.
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/24 07:55 AM
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I just told you what I meant. Most humans can understand figurative language, not just the literal. An engagement rings means the promise of marriage. A wedding ring means marriage. To clarify for the literalists, I meant a wedding ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:39 PM
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You know what I mean. Ring = marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:30 PM
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It’s a trap. As soon as she gets that ring her true character shines through and the libido for her ltr partner plummets. Women need variety and novelty more than most men would think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:25 AM
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I wouldn’t say she put me through hell, but it was pretty bad. Come to think of it, I don’t think she has ever apologized for anything she has ever said or done, and she’s been in the wrong a lot of times.
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/24 07:10 AM
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Seeing an ex wife turn cold and calculating overnight and rewrite the whole history of the relationship was the most sobering and heartbreaking experience of my life. Time heals but more than a decade in I’m still not sure I can ever trust again.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 12:58 AM
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This is exactly my experience. The ones who fall for me often get a crush before even meeting me. Then they mistake the surface persona for the real person, the generic masculine frame that I present to the world to shield myself, mixed with their own projection and imagination. Once they get to know the real person behind the surface, the archetype, the projection, they usually fall out of love. Women don’t want men to be flawed humans of flesh and blood, unless those flaws conform to their pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:05 AM
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Imagine being an adult and trying to improve and be better than you were last year. No one is talking about Nice Guy syndrome here, just an adult with no angst or neurotism, trying to live life with positive karma and a clean conscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:45 AM
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I don’t really have it in me anymore, but it’s easier with someone I really don’t care about or find slightly annoying. They’re also the ones who get most attached, until I take off the asshole mask and show them how kind and considerate I really am. These are the tools for attraction and repulsion that have never failed throughout my dating life. You could think of it as the + and - side of a magnet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:37 AM
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No. I have personally experienced this countless times. Not long ago I met again a woman who I hooked up with about 5 years ago. I remembered being kind of an asshole last time we met, so I wanted to make a better impression this time. Apparently she had cherished our previous encounter and wanted to rekindle the flame. Nothing has changed about me, except I genuinely aim to be better and treat people with more kindness. She told me to my face that I was a changed man, like there was something s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:51 PM
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Isn’t that what OP is saying? Women equate genuinely kind and wholesome with boring. That is a counter-intuitive observation for most men and thus valuable information, because those are exactly the characteristics they seek in a long term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:48 AM
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Same
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:35 AM
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I think women motivate men to go further and beyond in the rat race. As a single man who is not looking for validation from women, I don’t really care about climbing the corporate ladder. I don’t push for a promotion and have no interest in managing others. I just do a good enough job to get by and care more about team success than pushing myself ahead of others. I imagine that if I were trying to impress a new woman it would be different. If I were in a relationship with a woman who wanted more…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:44 AM
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I guess they feel similar, but the visuals make a difference, as well as how turned on and adventurous she is in bed. Some pussies are just prettier to look at. A pretty face, sexy hourglass body and a big round ass really heightens the experience for me. The level of wetness also makes a big difference. It’s never happened to me, but I’ve heard some women need to artificially lubricate before sex, and that would be a real turn off. So, as long as she’s wet, the physical sensation is not that di…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:23 PM
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But it is a power thing with an ulterior motive. But women seem to like those kind of things. It seems so shallow to most men, but they play along because they don’t seem to have much of a choice. We would much rather be liked for who we are, not for what we do or external possessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:54 AM
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Not being able to pay for your own food puts you in a position of passivity and dependence, like you are a recipient of charity, which most people experience as somewhat humiliating. It does not make sense for most men that someone who insists on always being in that position would also insist on being considered an equal at the same time. Growing up around girls/women who had all the same opportunities as boys/men it took me years to wrap my head around this. It’s still weird, and also the comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:29 AM
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I have better things to do than be an ATM, handyman and emotional punchbag for some overstressed, overworked woman who doesn’t add much of value to my life. Except sex. The irony of the modern woman is that she has been reduced to that. Everything else we can get better on ourselves or from male friends. Women need to do some navel gazing too. Why should we do all that is traditionally expected from men and even up the ante to get less in return, more baggage, a lame transactional friendship, na…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/24 12:43 AM
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Yeah, I’m considering stopping it.
/r/ExRedPill09/01/24 01:36 PM
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Why are we supposed to catch up? What do the women bring to the table? Your mid career doesn’t impress us. We don’t need more nagging and whining in our lives. Men make better and more reliable friends who we can relax and be ourselves around. The article is correct about that point. What’s in it for men? I would posit that it’s men who have cought up with the times more than women have. If you have your own career and can independently support yourself, it makes no sense that a man should pay f…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/24 11:57 AM
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Usually the sex and the quality of the relationship goes downhill from day one. The woman is incentivized to divorce, because unless she is a drug addict or billionaire (in which case she has a prenup), she gets to decide about the kids and gets half of everything plus alimony. Now what are the benefits for the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:13 AM
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Benefits for the woman. There’s not really any benefit for the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:43 AM
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Why not do both at the same time? Pillow talk is a great way to get to know someone, deeper than the surface persona they present in polite company. Also, a woman will usually lose interest if the man doesn’t at least initiate some touch and kiss within the second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:40 PM
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Just imagine what happens when average women have actual casual sex with 9-10s, enabled by the dating apps. Of course those men want nothing serious with them, but for the woman the standard is set to more attractive men than she can ever get into a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:11 AM
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No, I haven’t noticed that. They all want me to be assertive (to a varying degree) in the bedroom, for example. The interactions on the apps are always the same — if I don’t take the lead, nothing happens. There really are less surprises as I get older and gain more experience, it’s all pretty predictable and frankly a bit boring. If you go to the online dating subs you will see a lot of posts from people who are experiencing the same lukewarm interactions and boring repetitions. I don’t think h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:42 AM
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Yeah, it’s only my limited experience of talking to hundreds of women across the world. Also 100% of the ones I have been intimate with want the man to be assertive or dominant in the bedroom, but some think it’s a big secret that makes them feel unique. The vast amount of interactions on social media and dating apps shows us that the human experience is not as unique as we might have thought before.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:52 PM
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IME women’s preferences are pretty much the same across the board. Someone taller, stronger, assertive, decisive and able to provide and protect. He should lead the conversation from start, take initiative, entertain, pull her out of her shell and get to know her real self, but no one asks or cares what his preferences are, because it’s already assumed that the male archetype is always the same and he should just fit the mold.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:44 PM
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I didn’t start out like that, but after talking with hundreds of women IRL and on the apps, from all stripes of life, one gains perspective. They basically all want the same thing. They also assume men are all the same. So much so that they have little interest in finding out ones individual characteristics. The talking stage is basically about testing whether you fit their preconceived ideas of how a man should be. But the idea that men are all the same couldn’t be further from the truth, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 08:19 AM
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It makes sense that a woman would want someone who provides for her, protects her and remains stoic in the face of hardships, mostly her own emotional outbursts, IF she intends on having children with him. If she gets pregnant it’s a biological reality that her work power will be diminished during pregnancy and the first few years. She will also be emotionally vulnerable due to stress and hormonal fluctuations, so she needs someone who stays strong and grounded through it all. She wants the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 12:35 AM
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And? It’s called pursuing or courting. The alternative for most of these men is to not go on dates at all. No woman is going to show up out of nowhere and show them appreciation. If they don’t do all the work on dating apps their inbox will be empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 10:29 PM
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Yes, but “alpha” women tend to be attracted to even more “alpha” men. Men are more culturally pliable and have actually adjusted their desires more to the changing cultural landscape after feminism and women entering the workforce. It’s women who make their own dating life impossible because with their increased wealth and status their demands only go higher regarding wealth and status. Women are also flourishing in various activities, network more and have a busier social schedule, yet expect m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:03 PM
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The difference is I've never met a tall fit woman who wants this type of dude. They're basically all chasing a small pool of even taller fitter dudes so they can feel feminine for once. This rings true, but it’s so weird. It’s like the most feminine sissy man would demand only the most feminine woman, when in actual life she is of course going for the opposite. Opposites attract, but for most women it only goes in one direction, along their biological hardwiring to seek the strongest alpha male.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:50 PM
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Yeah, I don’t look or act feminine in any way, but my internal functioning and drive is not like what is expected of “natural” men. All women expect me to want to initiate, chase and take the lead in the context of dating. When I say all women I’m not meaning most women, women with traditional morals or submissive women, but ALL women, blonde, brunette, purple haired — from the most conservative to the radical feminist. They expect me to express a characteristic that doesn’t exist at all within …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 02:17 AM
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Women just want to work out. They dress up in tight gray yoga pants just because they are so comfy. OMG that creep is looking at me, better plaster it all over social media! Yikes, he’s sliding in my DMs, better screenshot it and post it on the socials too! In a bar/club setting women are just having fun with their friends. Don’t be a creep and harass a woman who is just going about her day/night, enjoying herself with herself and her friends. So what if she spent hours putting on makeup and cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:25 PM
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This 👆When a woman throws the D word she has already made up her mind a long time ago. She’s probably been laying the groundwork for months, telling her friends and family how horrible you are and even undermining you to your own family members, so she can paint herself as a victim when it finally happens. Now she just needs to add the “we tried therapy but he wouldn’t change” card. Get a lawyer.
/r/Divorce_Men10/12/23 10:21 AM
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Women say it themselves on dating profiles today. What they leave out is the baseline to actually attract them in the first place, which can be to be tall, assertive, aggressive, successful, a leader etc. Being nice is an icing on the cake, to be able to blend in at social events and be presentable to her family, friends and colleagues. It’s a kind of fake facade on top of a more rugged masculine core personality, which would cause trouble in these settings if unmasked, but is actually what attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:02 PM
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Partnered men get more sex. Women are happy being single because they can still get sex anytime they want, often with more attractive men than the ones that would want a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:00 AM
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Elusive? You seem to be talking about submissive during everyday life, i.e. outside the bedroom. Bedroom submission is not elusive at all. 99.999% of women are submissive inside the bedroom, but men get confused when that doesn’t translate to other parts of life. The majority of women also want men to iniate and lead all romantic activities, putting all the pressure on the man to perform, make decisions and risk going too far or making a fool of himself. In reality very few people, men or women,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:12 AM
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Yes, the woman in the picture is pretty close to my ideal body type. I don’t have a fat fetish, i’m not a feeder. I’m just not as attracted to skinny women as I am to women that are just about right, like the woman in the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:24 AM
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Modern women are high maintenance with diminishing ROI. Not worth the effort. Women before were more reasonable and valued traits such as loyalty, industriousness and protectiveness. They also possessed traits that are attractive to men and improve their lives. Now it’s all about looks and being a dominant asshole in the bedroom, while paying lip service to the most recent woke idiocy outside the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 03:21 PM
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Bro, do you even lift? Conservatism is life on default mode. Socialism wants to change nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:47 PM
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Sounds pretty right wing / conservative. Normalcy is conservative. Left wing is a revolt against nature and normalcy, especially so with the Woke variant. Conservatives generally don’t concern themselves with politics until their whole world and sense of normalcy is under attack, as has been the case since socialists arrived and with accelerating madness in the last few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:41 AM
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Women have been doing that at least since the 60s. “A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:46 AM
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Women don’t love someone because they are “special” or “one of the best people”. Yes, they can’t control who they love, but yes, men can absolutely control it by pressing the right buttons. Pressing the right buttons has nothing to do with kindness or respect for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:19 AM
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Would be curious to know why exactly women think men would get into relationships. What is the incentive? Seriously. Sure, many young men want a family almost as much as women, but beyond that, why? Let’s say a man already has all the kids he wants to have. Why should he enter a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 01:58 AM
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This correlates 100% with my experience. If she’s witholding sex or being a prude, but has been wilder with others previously, she’s just not that into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:42 AM
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I think it’s more a matter of how outgoing and how connected to her own sexuality a woman is. Strangely, in this day and age of total debauchery and moral decay, a lot of women are still conditioned to hide and not act on their sexual urges. There are also more factors at play, even when women are financially independent, that factor into who she chooses to have a relationship with. She has to evaluate a suitor’s character in terms of how friendly, emotionally supportive, protective and helpful …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:56 PM
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The danger is that you might rise up from your designated place in the hierarchy. 50% of humanity want men to stay in their lane and not try to trick nature. Life might also lose a bit of its luster when you learn how mechanical and predictable attraction really is. Again, 50% want it to stay dark and mysterious, so only the naturals who were born with RP instincts get to mate and procreate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:06 PM
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Yes. People change, evolve, devolve. It’s all make-believe. Alphas and betas don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:30 PM
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LOL, been in the real world longer than you and on both sides of the AFBB fence. It is true, no matter how much it makes women angry when pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:58 AM
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The truth is that she’s just not as attracted to man No. 2. He makes up for it with beta provider qualities and may end up as her husband, but man No. 1 owns her pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:58 AM
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A lot of improvement could be made not by doing anything at all, but by decidedly not doing a lot of things modern women do, apparently to intentionally make themselves unattractive to most men. Don’t dye your hair in unnatural colors, don’t get huge tattoos, don’t get weird piercings in the face, don’t become obese, don’t develop a drinking problem, don’t adopt toxic man-hating ideologies and don’t sleep around with a lot of men. In short, keep your mind, body and soul unspoiled by the forces t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:42 PM
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Are you new here? Here is the sidebar with the basic terms used in this subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/wiki/terms
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:51 AM
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“Not getting it” is intentionally vague, because women don’t want to spell out what it actually means. Some don’t understand it themselves, but only recognize the feeling when someone “gets it”. It’s basically the knowledge common among TRP, that a man has to be strong/dominant/assertive in some way, in order to turn a woman on. He also has to be vague enough about it to leave a benefit of doubt, so she doesn’t have to face the embarrassing reality of the situation. Women hate TRP because they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:59 AM
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Women make the mistake of comparing themselves to “the best”. Most men don’t even swipe right on these model tier women, knowing that they will be extremely high maintenance and probably not a lot of fun. Men are not hypergamic, so they don’t generally aim for absolute “best of the best”. Men do however have preferences regarding looks, but different men have different preferences and different types, even when they generally agree who the objectively best looking ones are. So yes, make the most…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:34 PM
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What you post publicly on Reddit is hidden behind a username but your post history is not private. Setting unattainable requirements is more black pill than red pill in my opinion. Red pill is about improving yourself using the cards that you are given. You can’t change your genetics so there’s no point in beating yourself up about that. You can however improve your body and mind with training and education, you can improve your wardrobe, income, status etc. Women have the privilege of getting t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:26 AM
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Women make it pretty clear when they talk about why marriage is still relevant for them in 2022. 90% will mention life insurance. It’s mostly men who still have romantic notions about marriage, propped up by the media and entertainment industry, and by women not being honest about how practical and business-like most of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:36 AM
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TRP is telling you what your female therapist doesn’t have the nerve or self-reflection to tell you. Yes, men are not good enough for women just by being born and having a penis. We need to work on ourselves and make ourselves valuable, if we want to pursue relationships with women, be that short term or long term. A woman doesn’t care how you feel, how good of a person you are to strangers or any other internal quality that doesn’t affect her - all she cares about is how you make her feel and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:18 AM
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Tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:59 AM
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Women don’t know what they do, much less why, when they are shit testing. Your theory sounds like you have been listening to women’s rationalizations too much. Shit testing is strength testing, to test how you react when you get “shit” thrown at you, whether you keep your composure and signal that you are of higher value than her. It has nothing to do with valuing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:57 AM
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What would you suggest he should do instead? Most women who get married are using the man for security and comfort, and are not really sexually attracted to the man in the way he would like her to be. Most men can’t get regular sex easily without being in a relationship, as most women can’t get beta bucks services with no strings attached. It’s a business arrangement, where love is a nice addition but not a necessary part.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:52 AM
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What you are describing is called a cuckold relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:51 AM
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A younger, more desirable woman has more options and is therefore more likely to divorce. It´s no mystery and needs no statistical proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:32 AM
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What are you doing, if not “enjoying the decline”, OP? Is your entire point that it’s not a decline, but the pinnacle of civilization, and the only downside is those pesky impostors who should not be allowed to partipate in this enlightening and fulfilling experience that is laying on your back with strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:51 AM
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And yet they know deep down that this is exactly what entitles them to act as if they don’t have to do anything to get everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:29 AM
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I longed for that interest too, but turned out that women were only interested in money, power and other displays of dominance. Most people are shit, no matter which way you look at it. Unsurprisingly, interest in cats and dogs increases in direct proportion to prolonged exposure to the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:08 AM
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So many people here don’t understand the difference between equivalent and equal. Men and women are different. Not being promiscuous is something that demands discipline and effort from the woman. A man needs to exert a lot of effort and be disciplined to be sexually successful with women. So the equivalent to a promiscuous woman is not a promiscuous man, but an involuntarily celibate man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:01 AM
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Were those terms ever made clear to you during the build-up to the marriage? Did the marriage vows contain a promise to be athletic and make a lot of money? Men are so idealistic and naive, especially in more egalitarian societies, to the real terms of marriage, thinking love is all it takes. It’s a cold-hearted contract that exists for the woman and is all in favor of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 07:37 AM
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Sounds like a guy who only sees women as a utility and never had any illusions about a deeper connection. I know there are plenty of men who find a new trophy wife or servant wife, but that’s a totally different situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 07:20 AM
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[Self] love and attachment [to financial security].
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 07:16 AM
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I know women do this all the time. Also spend a long time undermining the soon-to-be-ex to friends and family, even his own. It’s one of the main reasons divorced men are often turned off from marriage for life. Normal men are not capable of this kind of coldness, but it seems normal for women. Experiencing this is like looking into an abyss and seeing the abyss look back. It changes you and you can never again see the world with the same naivety as you did before.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:48 PM
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How can you move on while still pretending to be in a relationship? This behavior is so cold and calculating, verging on psychopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:36 PM
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There is a basic, biologically-instilled gender asymmetry with respect to promiscuity levels, and this is felt by women as much by men, if women are honest. Yes And if men don't have to worry, why should they? I understood your asymmetry comment as referring to this. Women are attracted to sexually successful men, while men are attracted to sexy women who don’t have an extensive sexual history. Most men have to put in a lot of effort to get sexual opportunity, while most women have to put in a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:55 PM
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Tattoos, weird piercings and annoying politics/feminism. All self-inflicted damage to the body or mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:26 AM
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Marriage takes the uncertainty and excitement out of a relationship. It’s a done deal and they have nothing to accomplish or prove to the partner anymore. It’s like the difference between the productivity of a government or private sector worker. The government worker becomes lazy and entitled precisely because it’s extremely difficult to fire him/her from the job. Divorce is the end goal of marriages nowadays, but many men are very naive regarding the meaning of marriage and perceive it as bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:29 AM
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If men had a lower libido they would stop trying to date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:12 AM
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All women are sexually submissive. The ones who call themselves dommes do it for money or on the side in a polyamorous arrangement or while waiting for someone to properly dominate them. The ones who are never submissive are trapped in a financial arrangement but secretly resent their partner. (Spoiler alert) It was even the core conclusion of the man who first formulated the concept of male submission/masochism, Leopold von Sacher-Masoch, through the words of his protagonist: She can only be hi…
/r/seduction06/08/22 12:11 AM
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Because deep down they think that sex is the only thing they have to offer in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:06 PM
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Maybe. I´m average height and probably not ugly, but I thought I was until I started lifting, because I received zero IOIs from women before that. Turned out being handsome and smart didn´t matter at all like I was led to believe. Adding muscle changed everything, for me at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:12 PM
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Looking attractive is the baseline, the bare minimum to get your foot in the door. No amount of personality will make up for not taking care of your appearance. But guys will make up a lot of excuses and self-sabotaging fatalism instead just going to the fu*king gym and lifting those weights. No, you can’t change your height, but you can go from 0 to 8 if you stop being a lazy fat slob. Dating will be a 100 times easier because you will notice women actually gazing at you and giving you clear si…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:41 AM
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Reading the answers I see it’s obviously very simple. Just be someone else. Someone who has a big social circle and gets invited to social gatherings. If you can’t swap bodies with someone more sociable just invent a time machine and go back to college or high school where most lifetime friendships are formed. When you arrive just change your personality to someone who is popular, has normal hobbies and is not socially awkward at all. Make sure that your friends are popular too but don’t get hit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:10 AM
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This wasn’t supposed to be about me personally. Modern women in general see men in general as an adversary, for example on this subreddit. My theory was that women are seeking later in life an energy that men have already spent on earlier relationships, i.e. romantic energy and willingness for a deep connection. This is a naivety in young men that wears out and never comes back, for example when they go through a hard breakup or a divorce. Women seem to want this even more after their epiphany, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 08:18 AM
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I have sometimes expressed similar sentiments and I’m very old and experienced. When I was young and naive I had more romantic notions, thinking that I would find a woman with a personality that matched or complemented mine. I found one and connected on a “deeper” level, we would talk about everything and nothing and really try to understand each other. We would also argue from time to time when we found that our perspectives were entirely different on a subject. Maybe this is one of those thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 09:13 PM
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What do you call bringing food on the table, i.e. hard earned cash, worrying about not providing enough, worrying about her reckless spending or making plans to earn more? Women often choose jobs that are purposeful but pay less, such as being a teacher or a nurse, while men sacrifice their dreams to do something that pays more but is less fulfilling, such as being an engineer or an accountant, because in order to have a family they are expected to be providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:49 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 06:41 PM
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The best sex for men is recurring casual sex. Friends with benefits. You learn each other’s kinks and build up trust, but it’s sporadic enough so that you don’t become bored because of familiarity or annoyed because of how they act outside the bedroom. No social obligations, emotional dumping etc. If it happens you can leave and come back when you have forgotten about it and are both horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 06:39 PM
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I believe what you’re describing is called mental labor or mental load. Women do more of mental labor that has to do with social obligations, while men usually handle the practical, financial and emotional labor, which often consists of being an emotional pillow/punching bag for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 06:10 PM
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These things “don’t matter” because they are only the minimum requirements to get the foot in the door. Then she can choose from the pool of men who meet these requirements, based on personality, his “sweet side”, “emotional maturity” or whatever. The baseline is tall, masculine, assertive, rich etc. but women don’t deem it worth mentioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:45 AM
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Women just aren't interested in most men, Then why do they swipe right on them? Would be much better if they did not swipe right on men they have no intention of talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:08 AM
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You say it like it’s only men who need to improve themselves. Women’s idea of improving themselves is becoming more like a man. It’s not sexy to most men and won’t inspire them to put effort into pursuing these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:57 AM
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Always was.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:40 AM
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How can he both be a fat slob who can’t wipe his ass and also a high earner who can support a whole family with a stay-at-home mom? And also bang a hot secretary/assistant? Something does not add up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:16 AM
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Yeah, why don’t they all become workaholics, take up day drinking, have a burnout before 40, adopt 10 cats and spend the rest of their days trying to convince themselves and others that they made all the right choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:07 AM
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Men swipe on women they would bang. Niche alt culture is something for teens and young adults and says nothing about personality. Women nearing 30 basically all want the same things and swipe on the same guys. I look fairly masculine, have a normie haircut, dress in normie clothes, no tattoos or piercings or any of that. I get swipes from blondes, brunettes and blue-haired freaks alike, business women, goths, artists, yoga teachers, CEOs, nurses, doctors, hairdressers, retail workers etc. The wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:40 AM
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He’s always on boats, isn’t he? I wonder if he does the “king of the world” shtick with all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:08 AM
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These men were probably circling between the available women, i.e. all the women having sex with the same <10% of men. Winner takes it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:34 PM
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Settle down young is the time tested way ;) Choose your partner wisely, have lots of great sex with your husband, be a swinger couple or whatever. You don’t get many shots at successful monogamy and it might evade you if you wait too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:44 PM
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Of course not. But might be a problem for a significant portion of the female population, who want to settle down and start a family at some point. They might have waited too long or not thought through how their lifestyle choices have consequences later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:36 PM
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Yes, the majority of men who did not have a “hoe phase” in their 20s. The ones who did, like OP, are a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:30 PM
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Yes, the end result of this lifestyle might be big age gaps, where women in their 30s settle down with men in their 40s, many of them divorced fathers and not overly enthusiastic to start again from scratch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:26 PM
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But they have the same lived experience as the women and may be ready to settle down. Still leaves out a lot of women who were not picked as number 1 from the carousel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:23 PM
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Yes, women leave a lot of eligible men out during their wild years. Men peak later. They might not be the sexy bad boy in their 20s, but have advanced in their career and worked on their exercise routine and wardrobe in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:09 PM
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Most men are not having lots of sex in their 20s. That is where the difference lies. So in their 30s all of a sudden they are more desirable to women, but women their age have finished their slut phase and now want to settle down. The difference in lived experience makes them incompatible. Why should he settle down now that he has the same opportunities she had 10 years ago but were denied him? He has a lot of catching up to after these gap years in his sexual history. That the sexual freedom is…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:23 PM
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I have been taking some time off from PPD. I can partly relate to that view because I remember being full of hormones in my 20s, so I don’t judge. I also remember being more romantically inclined at that time. With age I know better what I want sexually and many conventionally pretty women just don’t do it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:28 PM
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About Stacy and Becky. There are more women than these two, right? Taking the silver medal is not meaningless. Becky is still attractive, even if she is not model-tier attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:26 PM
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If he doesn’t want to go out with you to a popular place, doesn’t want you to meet his friends and family, he probably doesn’t see you as being in his league and doesn’t want anything more than sex. The woman should be the prize and be more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:20 PM
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He’s so out of her league that he doesn’t want his neighbors to see her?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:11 PM
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But he was counting commute in the 3 hours left after work, gym and sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:57 PM
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Everybody has a type. Maybe it’s my age showing, but I won’t strike up a conversation with a woman unless she has something special about her. Tits are for babies 😝
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:55 PM
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How does it do that? Any examples? I have never in my adult life felt coddled or entitled to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:46 PM
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men will give compliments they don't mean just to get laid. This means that they find her sexually desirable. That is not meaningless. Most men don’t get that much, some not even from their own wives. There are a lot of women I would not try to get laid with, knowing that my penis would simply not cooperate if she isn’t sexually arousing to me, even if she is conventionally beautiful by society’s standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:32 PM
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To your first point. I get that not all women constantly get compliments, but find it hard to believe that most women don’t get compliments some of the time. For men compliments like this are reserved for the exceptionally handsome and athletic only. Average men get no validation for just existing, like average women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:20 PM
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Can you imagine the opposite? Never receiving a compliment or any indication that you might be desirable in someone’s eyes? That’s how life is for most men. Men probably overestimate women’s interest because: 1. Women usually don’t talk to them or smile at them, so any interaction is taken as indicator of interest. 2. Men in general are less neurotic - because of biology, not socialization. Natural selection favors the brave. If socialization was such a big thing men would have every reason to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:12 PM
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Is that socialization though? Sounds more internally driven. Almost as if women in general score higher in neuroticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:13 PM
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My ex. We were not very compatible relationship-wise and had very different core values, but once we focused on sex instead it was the best. I doubt I’ll ever again have sex as good. Yes, no question about that. Yes, although I’m trying to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 11:22 AM
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Working 12 hours a day is insane. Work less and work smarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 11:12 AM
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How is that true, when women get 100 times more compliments than men? At least for their looks and attractiveness. The problem is more likely that women have too high esteem in their value as a friend. Thinking men talk to them because they are so interesting, intelligent, funny etc. when 99% just want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:54 AM
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No, but the man doesn’t owe her a fourth date either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:57 AM
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Telling men to be nice and be sensitive to women’s struggles might be beneficial to the natural alpha, to soften the edges of a rough and rugged masculine core. These men already have the baseline masculine energy that is the main reason for their attractiveness, but need a little polishing to fit better into polite society, family gatherings etc. Being nice and respectful is absolutely useless as an advice or strategy for the man who is timid and indecisive at the core. It doesn’t add anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:40 PM
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When they changed the rhetoric from equality to equity, they changed the goal from equal rights to looting and oppressing those who they believe have more advantages in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:36 AM
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Solid logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:24 AM
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Why don’t you just stop doing these things and see what happens? Women that end up doing all of that are too conscientious (an attribute of neuroticism) and too focused on boring practical things. The world doesn’t fall apart if you slack off once in a while and try to have some fun. This is also a problem in the modern workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:21 AM
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Accepting that everybody is flawed and there is no such thing as perfection is a part of life. Only a man would say that. Women fall in love with an archetype, a fantasy projection. Once she finds out the man is just a flawed human being like her, that becomes an escalating problem until she falls back out of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:07 AM
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Even the try-hards, pickmes or whatever you call them these days - a woman who falls in love with a man, will do so for superficial reasons and love an idealized image she has projected on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 12:12 AM
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Lack of options does not a personality make. She’s just more desperate and plays the deception game harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 12:07 AM
1

You mean your ex wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 12:02 AM
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If you think status, power and physical dominance are “important stuff”. Something tells me that these traits are not deemed so in progressive circles. Women are not more virtuous than men in their sexual selection. So much so that it could make one depressed about the fact that full equality will never be possible, for the sole reason that women will always pit men against each other to compete for status/power and consequently female attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:15 PM
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Because women don’t need a relationship to have a sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:05 PM
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Men don’t show emotions because women are judgmental as hell. Their public announcements as well as private speech indicate that they want men to show emotions more, but their actions speak otherwise. Every normal man starts life with love and support from his mother and thinking other women can provide that kind of support and understanding to some extent. Every man who has ever been in a sexual relationship with a woman knows that expressing negative emotions (except anger) spells doom for tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 10:11 AM
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I love my mother and she loves me. Probably made me start off blue pilled and naive about women’s ability to love. What is your hypothesis? I would rather look into relationships with fathers. Single moms and absent or distant fathers create the type of man who is not equipped to take on the world and deal with women, thus has to seek external advice and learn formalized theory about how the real world functions. Men with entirely normal upbringing are just as red pilled, they just don’t know th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:12 AM
0

Red flag or not, I think tattoos are ugly and no, I don’t have any tattoos. I don’t care about promiscuity. In fact, I love sluts and would like to marry one. Tattoos can be tolerated depending on size and level of ugliness, but I can’t see any positive aspect of having them. It’s like a bodily deformity or personality flaw, but one that could be entirely avoided by simply not getting a tattoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:02 AM
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Yeah, it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:55 AM
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Yeah, that’s why divorces happen a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:18 PM
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No, I’m not saying that. Just that the husband makes more money than her. It’s not because of a “gender gap” but because of women’s preferences. She needs to be able to take some time away from work for childbearing, or she wants to focus on being a IG lifestyle influencer or doing pottery or whatever. Women choose higher earners for status, security or a leisurely lifestyle. Welfare states replace this to some extent, but women are still biologically wired to choose higher earners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:16 PM
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In other words, marriage makes the sex life go whack. She gets the financial security she wanted, he doesn’t get the sexual security he hoped for, because there is no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:46 AM
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Familiarity and security breeds resentment. Women like the element of surprise and not being in control. They are attracted to men who are more powerful than them (hypergamy) and when she has the ring she knows she owns him and holds the power to destroy his life. 99.99% of women are not sexually attracted to men they can fully control. Don’t get married. It’s a trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 01:24 AM
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Many of those men don’t know what it feels like to have someone physically attracted to them, so they just assume that’s how it is, that women are not as sexual and need to be compensated for any sexual act. They don’t know any better. For me it’s the only thing that matters in sexual relations. I didn’t experience it until mid-twenties and it has only increased with age, not because of increasing worldly status/wealth (I’m not socially powerful or rich), but because I take good care of my body …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:43 AM
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I waste no opportunity to advise young men to avoid marriage at all cost. It will most likely drive away all the excitement and perks that they enjoyed when the relationship was in the earlier, more casual and less secure stage. Women want the certainty of steady cash inflow, but marriage doesn’t really secure anything for the man. The security of commitment makes the man less sexually exciting for the woman, which leads to sex happening less frequently and less enthusiastically. It’s good for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:38 AM
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Yes, but they strongly want sex, and most can’t have sex without a LTR, a LTR comes to an end without marriage. Not having sex makes men feel like losers in life, and casual sex is not available to many men, so they need marriage as a lesser of two evils. Sex -> LTR -> Marriage Comprendo? Men control their actions but the sex drive is so strong that most don’t have a choice. They just have to play their cards according to the options available, and women don’t give them any other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:08 PM
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It’s the woman who demands marriage as the only way to secure her long term sexual loyalty (the female version of commitment). Surely you have heard countless women lament about “forever girlfriend” status, which men would be fine with if it was enough for women. The long term girlfriend usually gives the man an ultimatum at some point, of either leaving him or him proposing marriage. The demand for men to propose and not the other way around might be a way for the woman to evade responsibility,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:44 AM
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Do I have to spell it out? No marriage, no kids. Men who want a traditional family would have an incentive to marry, if the woman insists on it. Marrying for the promise of “happily ever after” or “endless supply of sex” are delusional reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:40 AM
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I think your username answers your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:30 AM
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Don’t know about bad, but it sounds like you are not his friend. So no, you don’t have to be a friend to someone who you are not a friend to. If you consider yourself his friend, then you are the one who’s weak in this situation. Anyone can be played by a woman. It’s a part of living and learning. Next time it might be you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:00 AM
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$$$
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 11:24 PM
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They went where all the good women went, to the trash dumps of history. Modern women are not a good fit for good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:25 AM
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These men you describe are just trained monkeys putting on a show, desperate for women’s approval. Men follow their own will and don’t care what others think about them. Men have an emotional and a spiritual side. They can be vulnerable too. But women don’t want three dimensional men, so these boys maximize their masculine facade, pay lip service to whatever irrational fears women and feminine men are conjuring up at any given time, but never look within to find their own manhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:55 AM
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Can’t think of any totally non-sexual reasons. Modern women have already ruled out what I used to think relationships would provide, such as someone to stand by me when things get rough, someone to confide in, someone who takes pleasure in doing things I don’t like such as planning social events, buying gifts etc. Modern women consider it all “emotional labor” and want no part in it. So I can’t have a true friend or a confidant, I can’t have a clear division of labor that makes everyday life les…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:31 PM
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Good observation, but I disagree with the “connect emotionally with women” part. A man can never let his guard down with a woman, thus he can never really “open up” emotionally, unless it’s only his positive feelings about victory and conquest. Never about defeat, vulnerability, insecurities, which all humans experience from time to time. Men and women really should not cohabitate. Women should dump their feelings on their girlfriends or therapists, and men should bond with their male friends. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:31 PM
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Women like the idea of men, the archetype, but don’t want to be exposed to their mere humanity. My solution is to avoid 24/7 relationships, cohabitation etc. Give them the act, the illusion they want, for the duration of a night or weekend at the most, then go home or meet friends and family who can actually appreciate you as a whole person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:26 AM
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I don’t really care if they think they are feminists. If it defines who they are, so much so that they put it first on their profile, I don’t think we would be compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:34 PM
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Fish and gym selfie pics has been a common pet peeve of women for years. Everybody who is not deaf or dumb knows about that. But you don’t hear often how bad women’s profiles usually are. No bio is the rule for women rather than the exception, so I wouldn’t put that in instant left swipe category. Just wanted to put that out there, especially for those who judge men for the same. Too much alcohol in pics or listed as a hobby Any filters Weird piercings in the face, esp. those horrible septum rin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:02 PM
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Just preaching the gospel. It’s the future of most relationships in the West if the current trajectory continues. It keeps rising as one of the most searched terms on pornhub, women keep on having a “slut phase” that permanently changes them, while average men are having less and less sex every year. They will learn to enjoy the asymmetry in sexual experience, the denial and humiliation, porn teaches them to be a spectator and admire more virile men. Women just need to get on board and see the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:26 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:03 PM
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Emotional masochism, tease and denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:14 PM
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You are all a bunch of prudes. Why all the hate on cuckolding though? It’s the perfect solution for the “reformed” slut. Alpha still fucks, beta bucks, is cucked and loves it. Win win win for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:10 PM
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What do you think the women have been doing most of the time while you were at home dreaming about miss special? Don’t believe what they say, watch what they do. A woman will not complete you and will not care for you like a mother would. Young men need to eradicate their delusions about women and love and not fall into the marriage trap. Women are tough and will try and test whether you are tougher. If she decides that you are a doormat she will walk right over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:13 PM
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If the genders were reversed we would have been married; Have you thought about going transgender? It’s right there in the title too: you [would] much rather be a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:04 PM
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I kept my purity wanting a special someone You mean you have been unemployed your whole adult life and are now seeking a top position. Your analogy is good, but that’s what it entails. You should have been working your way up to the top position, gaining experience and skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:59 PM
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He probably wouldn’t have got you attracted to him in the first place had he never read that RP stuff. Think about that. If you wouldn’t have snooped on his internet history you might be married now, oblivious to the tactics he used. A fisherman isn’t going to ask or tell the fish about the methods he uses to catch fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:39 AM
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Oh I mean someone with low self esteem is likely to tolerate being strung along, treated like shit, cheated and viewed as being barely human. Wrong. PPD women keep reiterating this nonesense. These tactics work especially well on women who think they poop rainbows. Very attractive women get compliments all the time and perceive that as men acting subservient to them, i.e. not attractive. When they are put down a peg they are finally in a position to feel attracted to someone who doesn’t seem bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:28 AM
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Men want the horny stuff, nobody wants to be the safe and boring rational choice. Yet women consistently give that shitty advice when asked what kind of men they like. But not you. More women should be like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:18 PM
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What you said were nice words to describe the kind of ego-inflated jerk who negs women with “banter” and “humor” to pull them down a peg. This is what the PUA division of TRP have been saying for decades. Very honest and true, not compatible with wanting an “equal partner”, as so many dishonest women claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:54 PM
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Confidence, humor, charisma, assertiveness, and playful banter is what emotionally appeals to women. A.k.a. Confidence, humor, confidence, confidence and negging. Thanks for the honesty and confirming TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:27 PM
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Yeah, I don’t believe that for a second. Women only reveal their sexual weirdness in a trusted non-judgmental environment. It also appears to be more mechanical, less emotionally attached than most men are ready to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:27 PM
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Are you asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:31 PM
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Haha, true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:29 PM
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I wasn’t disagreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:20 PM
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Uh...are you new here? The myth of men being sex obsessed pervs is because women can’t stand being the less virtuous in comparison. There have been made scientific experiments measuring arousal when watching porn and women were literally aroused by anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:09 PM
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Women Are Wonderful
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:02 PM
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Projection. Women are pervs but because of WAW men have to be labelled as more perv.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:45 PM
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Flair checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:11 PM
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Here we go again
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:07 PM
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Yeah, with my dick inside her. It wasn’t my orgasm so I didn’t experience it first hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:06 PM
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It’s purge week isn’t it? I read your post as saying that no woman could orgasm without direct clitoral stimulation. You are perfect just the way you are 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:03 PM
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I don’t want to live in that place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:15 AM
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You mean the entire world, where all women and men cover their faces with dirty rags, because sCiEnCe?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:11 AM
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Ok, good for you. Then you are one example of what OP was asking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:55 AM
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Are you abstaining from masturbation? Vibrators, dildos and suction machines can be just as damaging to vaginas as porn/fap is to dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:52 AM
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I am doing nofap. What are you doing to save the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:34 AM
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You can’t achieve orgasm through penetration? Tell us that there is something wrong with your vagina without telling us there is something wrong with your vagina. Or you have only met pencil dicks. I’ve witnessed this too many times to believe this bs propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:27 AM
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Good point. It looks like a demonstration of fairness in the creation, that the sex that is more prone to cruelty and harsh judgment was made weaker. Or maybe cruelty is an attribute of weakness, as can be seen by observing leftist soy boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:21 AM
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Are they doing any of that to any woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:16 AM
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Try posting on reddit the simple fact that the window of child birth closes around 40 and you will be guaranteed that our PPD ladies will go on hamster overdrive with anecdotal evidence that some woman had a kid at 50 or something. Just as most people don’t want to acknowledge their mortality women don’t want to admit this simple fact of life. With menopause many of them also lose all sexual desire. But yeah, keep convincing yourself that 40+ women are winning kweenz and any man would be lucky t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:13 AM
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No, women are too sensual and selfish. I know the trope is that men are sex obsessed pigs, but it’s actually just a projection because women always want to look more virtuous in comparison. They may go through a period where they abstain from sex, but they double down on masturbation instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:33 AM
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Yes, I love sluts and she doesn’t have to stop being a slut. If she is an ex-slut she can rekindle her sluttiness with my full encouragement, as long as there is honest open communication about it and I get to plan, watch and take part in her slut adventures. My comments here are usually just expressing the thoughts and concerns of normal men, who are not weirdos like me and don’t like sluts. However, I do not believe a slut can truly become an ex-slut and leave that all behind to become chaste …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:18 AM
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Survive but not thrive, similar to a prisoner in confinement who gets the bare necessities to physically survive but breaks down psychologically. What doesn’t thrive decays more quickly and dies prematurely.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:24 PM
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Women are genetically hardwired to reward leaders with sex and babies. If it were the other way around, then women would be the leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:15 PM
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Therefore why the fuck the men in charge? They are motivated to succeed and gain power because of the rewards of power: sex. More power = more quantity and better quality. Why are women such suckers for powerful men if they are so angelic and evolved that they don’t need sex as a motivator? Neither is very dignified, when you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:57 PM
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How do men simultaneously consider themselves dumb animals and also think they should be in charge of anything? Because humans are simultaneously dumb animals and intelligent beings. It’s the tragedy of life. You can’t expect the majority of people to become saints that rise above their animal nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:43 PM
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Men die of suicide without it because life becomes worthless. I’m not talking about myself, saints or creative geniuses like Tesla etc. but the average man. Of course there are exceptions, but for most men all accomplishments and improvements are not worth striving for if there is no carrot at the end of the line, and that carrot is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:17 PM
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Most men on PPD would be happy if women ignored all other “male issues” if they simply acknowledged that getting laid as a man is fucking hard and going without this basic male (I would say human but women claim sex is not a need) need for years does more harm to men than any other issues they might face.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:54 AM
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Women’s behavior and preferences are the only reason TRP exists. Nobody wants TRP to be true. It just happens to be the most accurate model of the reality of dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:44 AM
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It’s an AI but more of an interactive erotic story generator than something physical. A robot that oozes high status and bosses them around. Somewhat similar to a cat but with a human voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:29 AM
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They are going to be talking to romantic/erotic AI bots and flicking away with the Womanizer or whatever plastic toy is in vogue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:25 AM
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What am I whitewashing? I never said all men have this power, just that women are attracted to men that do and/or act like they do. PUA tactics are all basically about signalling power to women, negging to push her down to a less powerful position, acting aloof to signal that you have power to choose from a variety of women, being assertive and confident with others to show that you have the social power to assert your will unashamedly, having frame to show that you have power over your emotions…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:58 AM
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Scrolled through your recent post history and have to say I feel your pain, man. How can we be true to ourselves and value kindness above all else, when all experience tells us that women value and reward the opposite of that? You are already physically strong and say you have leadership skills, which you can use to your benefit in relations with women. Find your strengths and use them for good. Women are not attracted to weak men who claim their only redeeming quality is how kind or nice they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:32 AM
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I absolutely hate having power over anyone and hate when anyone has power over me I share your sentiments. The hardest pill to swallow for me has been this understanding of how women’s sexuality works. Men of the past wanted to elevate women to their level as free individuals, but didn’t foresee that women would use their new freedom to seek out the fiercest and most brutish among men. But that does really explain why girls ask me out. Girls want relationships with me. But almost never have any …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:52 AM
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Women’s need for security and social cohesion has most of them parroting other people’s ideas from the news or classroom. I like exchanging ideas with people who can think an original thought and form their own opinion independently. That rules out many men too, sadly, but almost all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:33 AM
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No, I can never be totally relaxed around women. You must have a personality and opinions that align more with women if that is the case for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:06 AM
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It basically boils down to power, whether that is physical, mental, intellectual, social, political or financial power. You may call it strength or dominance too, but at the core it’s assymmetric power where the man has more of it than the woman. “Power is the greatest aphrodisiac” for women. That’s why there will never be full equality of outcomes. Women make sure of that with their mating instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:04 AM
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Why would I? I want to discuss ideas with friends in an open and free manner that I don’t think a woman would appreciate. Women have a tendency to take everything personally and be easily offended. With friends I want to be able to relax and be myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:17 PM
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Just family and coworkers, but none outside of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:38 AM
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You may still cash in on intelligence because you are young and some women may recognize a potential for making practical use of it. In general very high intelligence is worthless to women unless you can monetize it in a successful career, gaining wealth, status and power at least within your field. It’s all about power in one way or another; financial, social or intellectual. Intelligence in and of itself doesn’t mean shit to women if it goes unrecognized by society at large. I’d say that of al…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:20 AM
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Cuckolding is the future. A modern woman needs at least two men in her life at any given time; 1) an alpha Bull who visits occasionally, fucks her properly and inseminates her with strong genes and 2) a beta cuck who stays loyal to her, gives her comfort and emotional support and raises the kid with her. The alpha can be exchangable for different needs at different times, or he can even be more involved when a more masculine presence is needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:10 AM
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Exchange of money and other resources for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:52 AM
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He was always looking for a life partner, wanting to bond and get to know the woman and her interests. As a result, sex just kind of fell into his lap. Been there, done that. Very convincing acting on her part, right until I didn’t serve her purpose anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 07:27 PM
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Don’t wear makeup then and pretend to be passive and docile in the beginning stages of a relationship, when all you want is to gain control of a man’s life and livelihood. Happens all the time also that women pretend to be “the cool girl” and to be into wild sex all the time, right until they have the man locked up in marriage. The average woman manipulates much more than the average man. In fact that’s why women are so against it, they want a monopoly on manipulation and to always have the uppe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:08 PM
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Dating for relationships is for men who have too much trouble finding hookups. You pay with your freedom, integrity and life’s work for sex as a subscription service. It’s better than the one time transaction (prostitution) but worse than being able to have hookups with no strings attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:11 PM
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It’s exhausting to have to play the homogeneous type that women are attracted to, to appear confident, to appear like you have options, just to get your foot in the door, although 90% of men have no options and go sexless for months or years. To pretend that you are doing all of this for any other reason than to have sex. It’s exhausting to have to play a guessing game, hide and seek, push and pull, with someone who can never give a straight honest answer to anything, let alone initiate or drive…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:59 PM
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To be fair, he said “immortal” behavior, whatever that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:39 PM
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If ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise. True
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:20 PM
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What should we call it? The heart carousel? After a certain age it becomes harder, for me at least, to experience any romantic feelings or willingness to commit to a woman. It’s like a scientist repeating the same laboratory experiment for 10, 100, 1000 times and becoming increasingly convinced that water is in fact wet. You have to have a certain untarnished naivety to be able to be convinced of anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:32 AM
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Reality is everywhere! The horror! TRP exists everywhere, under different names, because its main tenets are confirmed by the actions and reactions of women every day, all over the world. If you want its axioms to stop being true, you have to change female nature, which is of course not possible. If you want men to be ignorant of female nature, I suggest you look in more impoverished parts of the world, preferrably without an internet connection and low levels of literacy. Chances are the sage o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:20 AM
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Yet many men have to teach themselves to be less nice and more assertive than society would have them be, if they don’t want to remain lifelong virgins. Entire generations of men grow up repressed and domesticated before they enter the dating market, which is convenient for society at large and women who don’t want to be involved with them, but doesn’t trigger attraction in women or even men - nice guys have trouble making friends too. It’s a sink or swim situation. Men are made or self made - n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 01:08 PM
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Then why would they get married to someone they’re not attracted to? Can they be happy and sexually frustrated at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:48 AM
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Women are not more sexually fluid than men. It’s just judged more harshly when men are. Men can ruin any future chances with women if they have any gay/bisexual experience, so unless they are 100% convinced they are 100% gay, they keep it under wraps. As usually, it’s women’s judgment that keeps masculinity rigid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:33 AM
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Because marriage in the 21st century sucks for men. Men don’t want to pick up the leftovers when she has given her fun years to others. Surely you must have heard of the AF/BB dichotomy, where the BB is clearly the loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:31 AM
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They just want to take, take, take all the benefits from conservatism as well as feminism and give nothing in return. All liberal feminists are in effect like this when the clock starts ticking, FDSers are just more honest about it under the mask of anonymity. Radical feminists are a dying breed. I almost miss those perpetually frustrated furry-legged man-hating creatures, spouting Dworkin quotes left and right and claiming that marriage is slavery and all heterosexual sex is rape. Almost.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:21 AM
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Yes, that is the most hurtful part.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:31 PM
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You can’t find the clit? Have you ever seen a picture of a vagina? It’s not that hard to notice. Sounds like you not only don’t like the smell of pussy but also don’t like the sight of it. Are you sure you’re on the right path?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:20 AM
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This post and the answers got me thinking. As a man, I have been “put on pedestal” more than once. I have felt attractive just because of some physical traits that I was either born with or are the result of countless hours at the gym, or professional accomplishments that are just a way to stay afloat in this cruel world. I don’t identify with any of that and would quit my job as soon as I won the lottery or got an offer to be a SAHD. I value my intellect and intuition as my main contribution to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 12:05 AM
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Intimate kissing is also normal in public. Nothing sexual about that either?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 11:37 PM
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Or afterplay. Physical intimacy between partners in a sexual relationship. Doesn’t even have to be in a committed relationship. FWBs and ONSs cuddle too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 11:32 PM
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If I want to get a non-sexual massage I can always go to a massage therapist. And yes, friends hug.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:54 PM
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No, because that counts as sexual touch, sometimes foreplay that leads to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:53 PM
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Romance without sex is friendship, and bromance is better for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:47 PM
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You don’t really know if you haven’t experienced it yourself. First of all, would he even be your husband if he didn’t have a job?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 07:28 AM
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Those marriages don’t last long, not because no men want to be SAHDs, but because women lose respect for them when they are actually in this situation, whatever their ideology tells them. The woman will of course hamster any other reason that makes her look like the victim when she files for divorce, and she may not even understand consciously why she stopped loving her husband, but that’s generally how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 12:44 AM
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When men teach other men something, and shaming and bullying is also a way of teaching, its underlying purpose is to prepare them for even harder tests, humiliation and cruelty, which for the most part is the judgment and cruelty of women. If they miss these lessons early on, all their interactions with girls and women from puberty onwards will serve to teach them one lesson; whatever you do, if you want any success with women, don’t be like a woman. Is it because women don’t actually like women…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 11:08 PM
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They also have high stakes in deluding themselves about this. They don’t want to face the possibility that their partner might just be with them because they’ve been on a long desert walk and are desperate for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 12:38 AM
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It has been my experience, both personally and as an observer. Most relationships are transactional. Women have much to gain to keep the myth of romantic love alive, but it can all be thrown away in a heartbeat. It’s a powerful illusion, but an illusion nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:58 PM
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Would they tell me that they only like me for external reasons, how I perform and provide, but not the real me?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:58 PM
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That would be the main purpose. I don’t see many other benefits of it at this point. Maybe if I was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:36 PM
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Then a relationship is the way towards the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:18 PM
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I’m surprised when modern women DO want acts of chivalry, because of how patronizing it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:23 AM
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The basic assumption behind holding doors for women is that they are too weak or fragile to do it themselves. That’s why I am always surprised to hear modern women lament that “chivalry is dead” or when educated professional women expect the man to pay for everything on dates. It was meant for the poor things that didn’t have a job and aspired to be full time housewives, not modern career women who claim to be strong and independent. In today’s world, opening doors for someone or giving them you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:01 AM
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She kind of approved your point though, in the way she interpreted the word ‘cocky’. Men and women really don’t think alike. Up is down and down is up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:46 AM
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Emotionally distant mothers, absent fathers and the culture of feminism in general. The nice guy, as a people pleaser, tries to be how women publicly say they want men to be, which is of course far from the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:35 AM
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Sure, would be nice if being a passive heterosexual man was accepted as part of reality, but that would require a change in women’s attitudes and expectations, which is never going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:30 PM
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If you need an eye opener as to which gender is the passive one, all you need is to log on to Tinder as a man. “Butch” lesbians probably know what I’m talking about too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:18 PM
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Excellent point. They had already tried it so they knew exactly what kind of psy-op was needed to destabilize the West and bring it to its knees.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:04 PM
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No, they lack masculinity and probably masculine role models. Maybe you think the problem can be solved, at least for women, by encouraging them to be gay or trans. But less masculinity will not turn them into healthy hetero men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:00 PM
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Sure, there are other reasons, but if sex is not one of them I don’t see a point in going on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:46 PM
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Same. Can’t imagine any other reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:51 PM
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Why do they ask them out on dates 2/10 times?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:43 PM
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We could call it ‘masculated’ and it’s something that modern women are very proud to achieve. They wear the pants, make twice as much money and deepen their voice to appear more masculine in the professional setting. They reserve the right to point their fingers at men and call them pussies, while enjoying their immunity from all criticism, solely because they are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 01:41 PM
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I don’t agree with everything but I like the premise of this post. First of all, people have to take back their inalienable right to go outside and breathe freely, stop complying to the budding big-tech-pharma fascist state. Then they can starve the big bad dating app beast. No need for centralized action to do that. People are universally but individually starting to be fed up with this whole situation. Be the change you want to see in the world, delete the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:08 PM
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Earrings are a cultural norm everywhere. That goes without saying. It’s baffling how women pretend to not understand the difference between an earring and a septum ring, which I believe is abhorred by men almost universally. Also funny how women have to go through painful procedures of violating their body to become unattractive, visiting seedy tattoo parlours, choosing tacky images they would never put up in their living room, requesting weird piercings that would make the aboriginals of Papua …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:01 PM
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Your analysis is correct. I would add to it that most women don’t really understand what their body and emotions want, what makes them attracted to a man. A man wants to reach those depths, to be viscerally uncontrollably attractive to his woman, just like she is to him. No one wants to be chosen as a result of a rational excel sheet cost-benefit analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:29 PM
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Sounds all good in theory, but my personal experience tells a different story. I’m old and being myself has never led to success with women. Putting on a fake asshole persona has. It’s ultimately a choice between staying alone or betraying your true self.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:43 AM
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That’s it, that’s your answer? Sure, these beta traits score you comfort points, which might help if she genuinely suspects you of being an antisocial nutjob. Being polite is good to avoid publicly embarrassing her in front of coworkers or when meeting her family, but what it does to her is the opposite of attraction. You need to make up for it with some asshole moves to keep the spark burning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:04 AM
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These traits don't get you lots of women. Why? Because these traits don't instantly spark sexual attraction. More like: These traits instantly spark sexual repulsion. HVW don’t stay with men because of these traits, if they do it’s despite of them, with gradually lower attraction. Men are generally good natured, so these traits gradually seep through the cracks of the alpha mask. The magic of keeping the spark alive is to never shed entirely the traits that attracted her in the beginning. The mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 10:39 AM
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Now you’re acting in bad spirit. Obviously piercings does not include normal earrings. It’s piercings on the nose, mouth, nipples, tunnels in the ears and those horrible, horrible septum rings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 02:01 AM
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Slightly hyperbolic to get the point across.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:54 PM
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Every man wants to be the single men who have casual sex. Married men shame them because they are jealous and to get a pat on the head by their matriarchy overlords. Women see them as a threatening influence on their men and try to undermine their friendships, but secretly desire such untamed men. Note that I’m obviously not talking about incels, nobody wants to be them or be with them, but men who evade or break free from the marriage prison and manage to have a sex life as single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:27 PM
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A man will not date down for a relationship, unless he has low self-esteem and/or doesn’t know his worth. Men will however date down for casual sex. Women seem to have a problem knowing the difference and are upset when the men who are using them temporarily for sex won’t put a ring on it. That’s why FDS exists, I guess. It’s a pity that this platform isn’t used to educate women on these simple facts of life, instead of making the readers more delusional about what they can expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:32 AM
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Sounds more like the bottom 15%. The majority of the men in the OP picture would describe themselves as feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:49 PM
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Did he make concrete plans though? Maybe he wanted you to reciprocate and help with the planning, but wasn’t feeling the interest from you. That’s what usually stops me from going on dates in the first place. I hate being the sole planner. I don’t know how your schedule is, what kind of food you like, whether you drink coffee or beer. Just talk to me like a normal person with your own wants and desires and your own agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:12 PM
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I was talking about literal beta cuckolds, not just betas. Men who are married to women who have sex with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:46 AM
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only beta cucks lie Wrong. Beta cucks are the most honest about their lack of sexual success and their promiscuous wives’ superiority in that matter. It’s the players, who actually attract women, who do that by lying and fabricating a fake persona. Very few men are actually what women want them to be. It’s all make-believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:24 AM
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Do you know how averages work? I never said it was impossible, just less likely. Why would a man who wants children take a risk with a post wall woman? Do more math.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:12 AM
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Ok, I think this example has a better chance of succeeding than, say, a famous actress and an equally famous actor. The man is valued for his general success and the woman for her beauty and other qualities that may be conducive to homemaking and family life. She will be a wife first and foremost, maybe a trophy wife to show off at events, but she will not try to overshadow him professionally. The “power dynamics” example was referring to a woman who is professionally successful and famous becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:38 AM
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I don’t get your point. Men are not attracted to a woman because some other dude pumped her and gave her platform. Women are simply attractive because they are naturally physically attractive and take good care of themselves and others. Only women care about the social status of a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:17 AM
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They may be attractive for sex or as a fantasy, but not for a committed relationship. The power dynamic would be too weird for any normal guy, and a more successful man would want someone who supports him and doesn’t try to overshadow him. Just look at the trainwreck of celebrity marriages. The only male celebs who stay happily married are married to non-celebrity Plain Janes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:49 AM
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Chad p n d’s women of all smv so this isn’t true. Where is the logic? He pnd’s mostly women below his level. Everybody knows that. Being super attractive doesn’t mean you’ll get commitment and you know it. Look at all those famous women. Fame is not attractive in a woman. Her hypergamic nature will raise her standards and sense of entitlement through the roof. She’ll live a busy, stressful life and contribute very little of the qualities that men value in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:31 AM
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With women who get used by Chads there is likely a correlation between the woman’s attractiveness and her likelyhood of having hookups. No gal attractive enough to get a relationship is having them. Most of the gals engaging in this behaviour, even if they lie about it after, their value is low as it was before they had them. Men of all smv levels can buy hoes. Depending on smv before buying a hoe, you can still be high value again by simply lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:59 PM
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52...or 42. It varies individually. For all we know, a 40+ woman is less likely to be able to reproduce. Even a 35 year old, if she is still childless. There is no magic number that you can rely on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:46 PM
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They have no value to you. He said reproductive value. It’s biology, not subjective value. Women enter menopause at 40+
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:46 PM
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It’s RP 101. Always have her believe you have an abundance of options. I believe it’s also part of the “inner game” lesson, to gain more confidence and be less needy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:57 PM
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What checks and balances does society use to control men's urge? Women are highly selective of who gets to partake in the secret world of casual sex. Men are publicly shamed by women and jealous men for being “fuckboys”. Men are urged to “man up” and commit to a woman they knock up, regardless of whether her pregnancy was with his consent. Just a few off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:31 PM
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It’s not hypocrisy. It’s a problem when the majority of women emulate a destructive behavior of a small minority of men and justify it implying that all men are like that. Even if all men wanted that, society has checks and balances to control this urge in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 07:15 AM
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It has become the norm for women in some parts of the world, at least the feminist hellhole I live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:53 PM
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Sure, until you hit the Wall and the 5% don’t want to pass you around anymore. That’s when you start posting all the “Where have all the good men gone?” posts and frantically lock down some desperate schmuck. Isn’t that what most women are doing anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:30 PM
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Of course we have to make you believe that, because women want to tie down a cad and not be settled for out of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:25 PM
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It has the same effect. Those men still have less sexual history than the average woman, hence the argument that “men do it too” does not hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:37 AM
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That’s easy for most men since they don’t have casual sex, but those who do get rewarded by women for their past sexual conquests. Maybe women should take a hard look in the mirror and question their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:56 AM
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Yes, mostly. If most men had the opportunity to “fuck around” they wouldn’t get entangled in relationships at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:45 AM
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No, women say “men do this too” when it’s literally less than 5% of men. Most men couldn’t “fuck around” to save their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:42 AM
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Men always think of sex as sex. It's like taking a piss for us. Speak for yourself. I’m a man and I don’t support this message. Even taking a piss during sex can be a highly intimate bonding experience. In my experience it’s women of the “sex positive” generations who think like this. They detach emotion from sex in a way that none but the most douchy of men can relate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:53 PM
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Who says it’s ok for men to fuck around, other than the women who enable them? Most men don’t fuck at all outside of commited relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:43 PM
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Does anyone even say they like a woman who is driven or ambitious? I’m a weirdo who likes a woman to be dominant, but I would never use the words ‘driven’ or ‘ambitious’ in the context of attractiveness. These are entirely women’s fixations and usually code words for something less socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:39 PM
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How so? He won’t get robbed of half his money if he stays out of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:12 PM
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Newsflash: They don’t. Why would women want to be “the solution” for men they don’t want to sleep with? Are you going to mandate it by law?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:31 PM
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here's a simple solution: women have sex with more men. Fixed it for you. This has been tried by the Millenial generation of women with horrible results. They just go on faster rotation between the same guys. Gen Z is allegedly more sexually conservative, which gives hope for the future of humanity. Gen X and Millenials can just enjoy the great cuckening for what it’s worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:11 PM
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If that is true then Gen Z is our great hope for the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:29 PM
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Maybe men should stop throwing themselves towards women. I agree with you about that. Men should stop doing that, but then again it’s the only thing that works because women are so passive in the dating market. But maybe that would change if men stopped simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:37 AM
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Using statistics to measure the effectiveness of a drug or a vaccine is oversimplifying, because it may have adverse or no effect on 0.01% percent of the population, but does that mean we should not use it? Approximate generalization is how progress is made in any science that concerns humans. There are always deviations on the normal curve but that doesn’t invalidate its existence. In fact that’s what makes it a normal curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:45 AM
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Interesting news. Do you have any data to back that up? Genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:51 AM
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They don’t count the flings as partners. Being single for a modern woman means abundance of sex, while for a man it means he has to work his ass off if he wants to ever have sex again. Do you have any female friends over the age of 25 that have only had 7 sexual partners? That number is just skewed by the ones who get married young. It’s a different universe for a woman who stays “single” for an extended time. That’s when the numbers go up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:45 AM
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The woman who makes more money has probably lost respect for the man and thus her attraction to him. A dead bedroom situation then leads him to seek sex outside of the marriage. It’s really simple. Why do researchers always have to twist the logic to fit the dominant narrative of women-are-wonderful?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:28 AM
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The ones who fuck in club bathrooms might wear their promiscuity on the sleeve, but the shy ones just go on tinder and order dick home-delivered like pizza. Expect them to be the ones you least expect. Women in 2021 get so much dick thrown at them that it’s hard work not to become a slut, while the majority of men work hard to get their dick wet once or twice a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:16 AM
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Men have been fooled into marriage for centuries, lied to and manipulated to sacrifice their freedom and resources for someone who doesn’t really love or desire them. They were made to believe that women desired gentler love, that they weren’t as interested in sex, that love developed slowly for women. All of it was a manipulation to get men to give them what they wanted. Of course women shift blame to a Patriarchy, as if any man would willingly sacrifice his hard work for a loveless marriage bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:43 PM
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Then you know why men are like this in the present time. Being forward/assertive to stranger women in this cultural environment is more of an indicator of psychopathy than anything else. This removes all the conscientious men from the dating pool, while the reckless potential harrassers and rapists keep on doing whatever they were doing before, not caring about the potential consequences of their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:02 PM
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Did you create the metoo movement? I’m talking about the general cultural atmosphere in first world countries. Men are walking on eggshells and rightly so. If they send the wrong DM it can have dire consequences. Better to play it “cool” and wait for obvious IOIs or her direct advancement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:36 PM
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Men are hesitant to “reach out” because if they do they run the risk of rejection, ridicule, accusation of harrassment or a combination of all, having their messages screenshot and plastered all over the internet or in a worst case scenario getting a metoo accusation, resulting in loss of reputation, loss of job etc. Women create an environment where it is extremely risky for men to make an advancement and then whine when men behave accordingly in this dangerous new territory. My new approach is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:28 PM
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A traditional woman is kind, nurturing, LTR oriented, family oriented, religious, a homemaker, doesn’t drink too much, has never done hookups/ONS, supports and encourages her man instead of competing with him or other men. She has a consistent history of same behavior with the end goal of marriage and family life in mind, but doesn’t just switch gears when the baby clock starts ticking loudly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 01:45 AM
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When women are traditional again this will be tenable. Whole generations of women are ruined by feminism. It’s too late to change track when you see that Wall approaching. Gen X and millenial women who end up alone drinking wine with their cats can preach to the younger generations about their mistakes and the toxic lies feminism told them, and most importantly that if women want this to happen they need to cultivate classic feminine virtues from the start. Modern women are not worthy of courtsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:57 AM
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What do you mean you hear the inverse? Does any man say this outside of anonymous forums like this? Men are not allowed to publicly state their opinions or preferences on these matters anywhere I know. If they do so they are socially ostracized, cancelled in the media, verbally and physically attacked, lose their job etc. Famous psychologists and writers who have talked about men’s issues have had to fear for their life and livelihood.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:20 AM
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Men are still expected to provide, protect, build and fix things. Additionally they are expected to have an impeccable body on OLD and have the mischievous/adventurous/assertive personality of a Casanova. Women are allowed to make all kinds of performative demands of men, while men are not allowed to express a preference for any skills or personality traits of women, god forbid criticize them. You want a kind a nurturing woman? She’s not your mother or therapist, you misogynist. A physically fit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:55 AM
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Men have lost their purpose. We are still required to be traditionally masculine, while women have changed entirely, and it is suffocating. Women are not traditionally feminine anymore and not worth the hard work it takes to play this role that is forced on us. I would do it for a traditional woman but not a modern one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 11:53 PM
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Women like power, men like beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:38 AM
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You mean feminists? Their penis envy is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 12:20 AM
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She is an adult with equal rights and the responsibilities that come with it. If she would have been married and divorced him after 6 years and 2 kids it would be “as if he never existed”, “just a baby daddy” who gets to see his kids occasionally if he’s lucky/ she allows it, but still has to pay child support and maybe alimony, regardless of who was the higher earner. Marriage is a shit deal for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:11 AM
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I would have thought it goes without saying that anything without consent or with a person under the age of consent is forbidden. Men do not hand over “their daughter’s hand”. Women have their own agency and give their own consent. Your whole language sounds like you are not familiar with the modern world. That there exist some sexual morals in the modern world does not mean that it’s chivalrous or that chivalry is something one should aspire to in relation to women. Women laugh at men who use t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:15 PM
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This trope was ridiculing something that maybe existed in older generations, paving the way for the new era of boundless female empowerment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 10:10 AM
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Are you a time traveller or trolling us? No such thing as ‘civilized dating’ in the western world. “All is fair in love and war” has been a saying for a long time. Being chivalric can be admirable, but you do it for your own integrity and/or the good of society. The last one to be impressed by it is the woman you are being chivalric towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:13 AM
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Women in the West are not attracted to chivalry. I’d say they are actively repulsed by most of it. Except paying for dates, the petty benefit of free meals somehow outweighs how patronizing it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 07:46 AM
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Uh, you think these problems are new? You must be very young. Feminism is not new, but it has never been this widespread. Civil rights activists such as Martin Luther King appealed to liberal values and the equality of humanity regardless of skin color. Woke-ism is anti-liberal (in the classical sense) and racist. Identity politics is a relatively new phenomenon and it divides people into antagonistic groups rather than seeking harmony and common ground. You're a few characters away from blaming…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 12:24 AM
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The mental health part can largely be blamed on the boomers showering them with doom and gloom propaganda about imaginary problems, as well as creating new social problems with pitting women against men, race against race, feelings against reason. It may appear that young people are preoccupied with new problems, but if you follow the money you will find a bunch of boomers in their 60s and 70s fuelling the fear and anger and laughing all the way to the bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 08:24 AM
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Men are generally more interested in generic rather than specific advice, because they likely have to cast a wide net and wade through a lot of rejection before they find one that sticks around. Also women are generally attracted to the same physical and sociosexual traits, i.e. height, athleticism, good grooming, confidence, charisma, status etc. What seperates women in terms of what they are attracted to is just details within their particular niche, when the man has all the most important par…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:55 AM
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Did men have an easier time telling you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:30 AM
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How do men give bad advice to women? Genuinely curious because I haven’t seen this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:24 AM
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For the woman of course. It’s like insurance except she doesn’t have to pay cash money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:53 PM
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There are plenty of women who will say there are plenty of women willing to do this or that, but it’s never the woman currently speaking. It’s a great way to evade the question without challenging the women-are-wonderful trope. Better to send one clueless guy on a mission to waste his life searching for a unicorn woman, than admit that perhaps it’s a better approach in general to not expect any emotional support from a female romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 05:07 PM
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Why date them then? I’ve been asking myself the same question for a year or so. The initial stages of dating are all about holding frame, pretending to not be a flawed human with problems of my own. I don’t think I can bring myself to play this pretending game once again. People who require you to hide your humanity can’t really be considered friends or allies, can they?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:40 AM
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If you confide your emotional problems to a woman there's a good chance she'll lose some attraction to you, or give you advice that will do little for your current situation. She might even pick the side of the toxic colleague and suggest there was something wrong with how you handled the situation. Modern women are not allies with men, except when they are winning on all fronts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 07:38 AM
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These men aren’t necessarily looking for casual sex only, but might accept some easy casual sex along the way to their true goal of finding a woman they deem worthy of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:47 PM
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Sexting or flirting sexually with strangers on instant messaging. Anything you say in private messages between two people could be screenshot and made public on social media. Also any dominant or degrading acts towards a woman that she requests. I don’t trust her to not change her mind later and use it against me. It’s not worth the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 10:01 AM
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Human nature is the same everywhere, especially women’s hypergamic nature. It’s more obvious where women are less repressed, but the same underlying principles apply universally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 02:10 AM
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Interesting points, but I think feminism was first, making women incompatible with men. Sexual thirst is the only thing that still keeps young men interested, but beyond that most modern women are just not that interesting or pleasurable to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:09 AM
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Oh, I thought the opposite was one of the benefits. Made a series of mistakes in your life? No problem, just throw a tantrum and blame some man, the “patriarchy” or society as a whole. Demand that big daddy government coddles you and puts the blame on anyone except yourself. Feminists and “conservative” white knights will march in lock step to your rescue, because of course you were just a victim of circumstances or a fragile emotional woman who can’t take responsibilty for her own choices. Eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:19 AM
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A cheaper, more compliant workforce that thinks slaving away for heartless corporations makes them free. Children left to institutions where they are indoctrinated for the coming times, where they learn a complete reversal of liberal values. Compliance to rulers is critical thinking. Slavery is liberty. Erosion of families and communities and atomization of the individual. More workers, more consumers, people turned into a pliable herd that will obey anything their overlords command them. It’s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:54 AM
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Our culture tells us that we should like that. It also programs men to be submissive and women to be dominant. Women, however, can’t be programmed to change what they are sexually attracted to, and it’s not male submission or even equality. Because women are socialized to outwardly desire equality, and women hate to stand out against the cultural norm, it’s best to keep it a silent agreement that she knows that he knows that she knows that they are in fact not equal, or else she would never be w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 10:26 PM
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Or they don’t actually believe that and it’s better not to talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:19 PM
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Maybe these men are submissive and you give out a dominant vibe. It’s not common for normal men to be attracted to strong career women. I say that as a hopeless submissive who has tried to find dominant non-prostitutes, with zero luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:16 PM
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Loki is the antichrist in Old Norse mythology. In the movie he commands the people to kneel before him and announces that he has come to free them from freedom. He is the antithesis of everything good in all systems of morality and spirituality, but especially the moral values that America was founded on. But hey, I’m not judging. Women are the yin to men’s yang. Light needs darkness to shine. It’s just funny to see it expressed so obviously in movie crushes. Gets more scary when you think about…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 11:24 PM
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Trying to balance the blood-thirsty villains with goody-two-shoes borderline asexuals Captain America and Superman. I see what you did there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 11:10 PM
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Men are usually not attracted to pure evil. Loki is literally the devil. Uber bimbos and girls next door are not known for enslaving all humanity and working towards obliterating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 11:02 PM
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Wouldn't going prudish again repress male sexuality? I would argue that men’s sexuality has never been as repressed as it is now. When women have more sexual freedom their preferences become clear; and they are more uniform and rigid than men could ever imagine. Zero tolerance for any variety in gender expressions of heterosexual men or any display of affection between them. Men are also barred from making sexual advances with women in more and more places, thanks to metoo etc. Sure, the gays an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:15 PM
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It’s dick-in-partner’s-orifice-phobia, same as most men feel viscerally about promiscuous women. That’s what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:58 AM
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There is no difference between the kind of positive interactions that you mention and women’s so-called IOIs. The risk is greater than the reward for most men to act on these subtle IOIs that are indistinguishable from normal polite interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:50 AM
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I’m so tired of literally all women acting like they are these passive wallflowers who only speak when they are spoken to and have no agency of their own - when in fact the majority of them are more assertive and outgoing than I will ever be - that I have stopped initiating conversations with the women I match with on dating apps. I guess they could see that as rejection, in the caveman worldview they choose to operate within when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:37 AM
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Yeah, the recent PPD bi thread revealed that women of PPD understand perfectly why most men are disgusted by sluts. They don’t want to be with someone who has had a lot of dicks in them. Women feel the same and are just feigning ignorance when they blame it on men’s “insecurity”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 08:33 AM
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All women are unique and all women are exactly the same. A woman can’t seperate herself from other women because they’re exactly the same. You can’t generalize about women because all women are unique. Feeling confused? You should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:53 PM
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It’s so weird to seek “emotional intimacy” from women when you should know that the very same thing will bring the end of your relationship. Maybe these heartless b*tches are correct to suggest therapy, but I doubt the efficacy of that. You are looking for your mom, not a sexual relationship with a woman. A woman only cares about emotions that benefit her and make her feel secure and protected in your hands. Any vulnerability revealed will make you less likely to be able to protect her and endur…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:24 PM
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The lesson of this thread is that women, at least our fair women of PPD, are extremely rigid on gender roles when it comes to men. They care much more about stereotypical masculinity than they would have us believe when they are virtue signalling their wokeness. They desperately want to believe that [toxic] masculinity is innate in men, but something they should be ashamed of, to further increase the sexual leverage that women hold over men. Once men decode the plot (TRP) or are not dependent on…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 09:03 PM
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Early Christian theology and ethics were heavily influenced by Plato and Aristotle (Plato’s student). Aristotle taught Alexander the Great, who was rumored to have been bisexual, which was pretty much the norm in those days. But as a philosophical conservative you surely must know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 08:14 PM
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YW. It may be mostly about religious belief, but he touches on confidence and relationships too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 12:05 PM
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Most women are not looking to dupe and divorce rape men, if you act as if your partner will then how can you love, trust and rely on it? I think men commonly mistake the mutual love they feel for their mother for something that can be replicated in a female partner. A woman will never love a man like that, but it benefits her to get his total devotion, trust and reliability, so she pretends to reciprocate that. I don’t believe any woman can be trusted and relied on when things go downhill, you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 10:48 AM
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This here 👆 When women point at men and call them insecure, objectifying, sexist etc. they are usually pointing at a mirror. They know how they themselves think and a man thinking or behaving slightly like a woman is the most despicable thing they can imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 08:31 AM
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Men’s tastes vary more than women’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 06:54 AM
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Nah, it’s just 50% of society, i.e. women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 11:31 PM
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I’m philosophically conservative so those types of lifestyles turn me off. You mean like Ancient Greek philosopher Plato who wrote extensively and favorably about homosexual love/sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 11:26 PM
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TRP is about a shortcut to the finish line, they are jumping steps. Everyone needs to do the hard work, not just write the final answer and hope the steps write themselves. Internal game, eating healthy and lifting weights is not a shortcut. It’s fucking hard and it changes you for good if you keep at it. TRP is not an easy pill that you just swallow and are good to go. Living in blue pill illusion is the easy way for your fragile sense of a just world. Women appear complex and unpredictable, se…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:17 PM
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Yes, forgot to write under automod.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 06:00 AM
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How many love songs do you know that are written by a woman for a man? There are a lot of breakup songs, jealousy songs, happier-without-you songs, I-deserve-better songs, better-put-a-ring-on-it songs, wish-I-was-man songs, wet-ass-pussy songs etc. But love songs?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:46 PM
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Weird theory. A simpler explanation is that most lesbians are hostile towards men, have obnoxious (feminist) opinions and women in general don’t make particularly good or trustworthy friends. Also, some men like to goof around with their friends and throw insults and inappropriate jokes at each other. Women are easily offended, even lesbians, especially if they consider themselves feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:44 PM
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Yeah, well women also claim that they don’t like “fuckboys”, yet proceed to fuck them. The best approach is to take everything women say with a ton of salt and watch what they do and respond to instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:38 AM
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Go hunting. Go fishing. Women have also made it known that they hate “fish photos” on dating profiles. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:26 AM
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“I’m a feminist” Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:26 PM
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Women should swipe right on the 1% or less, not 5%. The most frustrating thing is when you match with lots of women but only 1% of them will respond enthusiastically if at all. It made me stop putting any effort into it and just wait for them to initiate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 07:37 AM
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Men are perfectly capable of splitting roles with women. Women and men can work equally and take care of a household equally. Yes, men are capable of that. Women are not capable of pairing up with a man who is not higher status and a higher earner, hence works more. The problem lies in your mating choice, that is probably biologically hardwired and the reason why feminist pipe dreams will always fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:46 AM
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No one is expecting the average woman to gain muscle. Women don’t have to exercise as much as men to maintain an attractive feminine physique. Just eat healhy. Frankly, your whole list of expectations is non-existent in any first world country. Modern women have made it clear that men can’t expect anything specifically feminine of them, except maybe having a functional vagina. Maybe. Are we even allowed to talk about women anymore? Person with ovaries? We live in an insane culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:38 AM
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Women don’t like that men got their relationship innocence ruined by some other woman and are now hesitant to be romantic and emotional. Men don’t like that women got their sexual experience with some other man and now don’t want to do some of the things they did before. The solution for both is to marry when you are young and naive. You don’t get that many shots at making it work. Every new partner that you break up with makes it less likely that you will ever be able to pair-bond successfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:56 PM
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Generally the left is intolerant of any opposing viewpoints and wants them out of sight. The right is used to having their views disregarded and caricatured in public discussion, education, the media etc. so the expectations for pure agreement are not high.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:07 AM
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I get sleepy and lose interest in sex, at least for a few minutes or half an hour. An orgasm depletes energy from men while women usually get more energetic after an orgasm and can have more orgasms, unless it’s a huge one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:10 AM
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Bold of you to assume that men on PPD have sex. Continuing to work on her right after an orgasm is generally not physically possible, so it’s best to make her come first, which is what I always try to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:56 AM
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Evolutionarily, only the men they choose to have sex with matter. There is no guarantee that BB even pass on their genes, unless they get a dna test, which is not so common. Women were discouraged from acting on their urges in the past because promiscuity was frowned upon, contraceptives were not available and the man needed to be able to provide too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:25 AM
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No, that is creepy. But who knows - One day he might become the president of the most powerful country in the world and all the people who call his hair sniffing habit creepy will be shut down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:42 AM
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Nah, women are wonderfull and as such, they are clearly the victims of bad bad men. Crucial to tackling compulsive behaviours around sex and porn is a robust, expansive sex education, taught from an early age. It will be a vital step in stamping out the shame that so many women are still made to feel around sex. See, it was the bad bad men of the pAtRiArChY that made them do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:53 AM
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You didn't answer my question about obese people. Most diseases that take up hospital space can be prevented with a healthy lifestyle. Should lung cancer patients be denied treatment because they smoke cigarettes against their better knowledge?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:47 PM
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No, women overvalue their cognitive abilities to understand what they are attracted to. Most of the time the truth would make them look shallow or weak, so they gaslight themselves and everyone else that their preferences are noble and virtuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:16 PM
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MrsDrgree: Automod please. QueenB: Get lost foreigner. Muh Amerikah.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:58 PM
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Also women of PPD summed up in a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:50 PM
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I see. So the doctors should forget about their Hippocratic oath just because it suits your Us vs. Them narrative? What about obese people who chose to eat more junk food even if they knew it would put them at risk for various diseases, including respiratory viruses? Should they be put on low priority also? This pandemic is proving the entire medical, political, media and academic establishment to be morally bankrupt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:33 PM
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It doesn't even have to be the thing that is working for them. It's easy to pay lip service to feminism when you are a naturally dominant womanizer. It's working despite the system, or the system takes the edge off of otherwise almost dangerous personality traits. So it might even be helping them, but only because they are already attractive and naturally dominant, which is the state that TRP-ers are trying to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:32 PM
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The world is a village post internet. The sexual revolution only revealed the true nature of gender relations when uninhibited by sexual morality and financial necessity. Human nature is the same everywhere on the planet. Maybe these Indians or whatever are seeing the same developments unfold with increasing westernization of their culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:22 PM
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Nah, husbands care about not being sexually boycotted Lysistrata style and not being cuckolded. Everybody cares about their daughters and sons not being subjected to violence and traumatic experiences. That's not gender specific. You keep going on about 'foreign men'. The internet is international last time I checked. This is not a specifically American forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:08 PM
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Why should we care about women’s issues when it’s not our experience? Sexual harrassment? Never happened to me = not a problem according to your “logic”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:35 AM
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Ever heard about hypergamy? The sole predictor of a woman’s attraction to a man is the power imbalance between them. Bigger, stronger, richer, older, wiser, more powerful, higher status ... it’s all a predator/prey dynamic and needs to be shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:30 AM
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The right is bodily autonomy You mean like the right to not get vaccinated? Your peers, the medical establishment and the president sure love that right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:01 AM
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You deserve an Oscar too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 08:15 PM
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Men are not valued for their work. Why should women be? The reason that women are not expected to put any effort into dating except to look good, sit back and wait for suitors, is that they have inherent reproductive value. Take that away and no one really cares for them, just like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:23 AM
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Do you realize that women who were in their sexual prime in 1970 are over 75 years old now? I think it has more to do with the universal, or at least western, acceptance of women as dominant go-getters in their everyday lives, as well as the taboo of women submitting to men. When you suppress a part of your nature you push it into the subconscious, where from it emerges again in the form of uncontrollable urges, if not neurosis or psychosis. Tl;Dr; Feminism is to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 07:20 PM
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Reading through your list of bluepill points, it became apparent to me that they all basically say the same thing: Men should think and act like women and hope for the best outcome. Heterosexual women are generally not sexually attracted to other women, so the bluepill is basically a blueprint for sexual failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 05:57 PM
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Why do women hate on the most beautiful woman in a social setting, call her a slut, call her stupid etc.? Because she has something they don’t have and they want to eliminate the competition. A slut deflates the price of sex. A beautiful woman makes other women seem bland in comparison. A pickme might lower men’s tolerance for the crap that average women throw at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 01:52 AM
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Boring but reliable source of income and workpower. It’s an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:21 AM
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This rings true for me. The juice is not worth the squeeze. I don’t like starting conversations with strangers and going through the same topics over and over again. Being expected to carry the whole weight of the interaction, when I don’t even like the process and feel like I’m lying to myself and others when I pretend to be this outgoing driven person that I have to be for any progress to be made. OLD is especially hard because I don’t have the chemistry or physical cues to go by. If it wasn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:44 AM
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Who's talking about slut shaming? It’s right there in OP. But men shouldn't be shamed for their life choices. Shaming is just exercising free speech. You’re free to shame the shamer too, but no one has a right to not be offended. It’s actually what usually happens, men who have the wrong opinions are smeared with words like “toxic masculinity”, “incel” etc. Negative talk usually has a way of boomeranging back to the speaker, but somehow the woke mob gets a free pass for the time being. They can …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:31 PM
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IME the reality is exactly the opposite. What people lump into the general term ‘female sexuality’ is actually more often the female drive to secure resources for their offspring. When women are seeking sex only they are more animalistic and emotionally detached than most men, because men more often equate sex with love and see relationships as a subscription to the sex they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:18 PM
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Slut shaming is not limiting anyone’s rights. Men are shamed for being sexless, for watching porn or hiring prostitutes where that is legal. Does anyone see that as limiting their rights? Shaming is cultural, not political.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:11 PM
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No, it’s not a good thing, but the only rational thing to do when women have abandoned their part of the deal. Trying to patch up something that is broken will only slow down the inevitable collapse of a civilization the relies on strong family units.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:15 PM
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Obviously there are men with dubious intentions who promote it as a divide and conquer strategy. Divide people by their gender, race, sexuality etc. pit them against each other and they won’t point fingers on the real exploiters. Feminism would never have happened if powerful men didn’t allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:34 AM
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What is the ideology being taught in all higher education institutions and regurgitated through popular media, entertainment and social media platforms? It’s woke culture and feminism is a subset of that. Men in general are less conformist, although many have definitely overdosed on the soy beans, but in general they tend to value freedom and independent thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 11:42 PM
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Feminism is simply the dominant ideology today and women are conformist. If religious fundamentalism was the dominant ideology these young beautiful women would be totally into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 11:19 PM
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You can either 1) be a traditional woman who gets provided for or 2) be a modern career woman who buys her own food/things and splits the bill. I have no problem with either choice, but you can’t choose both to earn your own money and get a free meal every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 06:12 PM
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No, they are hypocritical and have double standards. Gen X were more egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:33 AM
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I don't do it and have never invited strangers out to dinner. It was never expected by the women my age either, who were raised very egalitarian in the 80s and 90s. They would have seen it as demeaning and patronizing to them, which it is. But the cognitive dissonance is very strong with the millenial libfems. They demand strict adherence to their woke beliefs while expecting men to act out a role that has been outdated for at least 50 years. Modern women are very different from the women our fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:50 PM
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He doesn't have to, but usually men do, unless they choose woman less attractive than themselves, which they don't. These are the old rules. Seeing a few holiday photos on a dating app doesn't inspire enough interest to go the extra mile, at least not for me. If I have already met her and felt some chemistry then that's different. I'm as ambivalent as I believe a woman would be when going on a first date after just chatting on an app. I don't think women understand the effect online dating has h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:04 PM
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What is the meaning? Men everywhere are getting disgruntled with this stupid tradition. It's only women who want to uphold it, because it benefits them. But they don't see how demeaning it is to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 10:55 PM
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He doesn't even know you. Why should he like you any more than you like him? If you want it to be on equal grounding it should be 50/50. You are both taking a chance and spending time and effort to see if you like each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 10:40 PM
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Women in general don’t like to be held accountable for anything negative that “happens” in their lives. They always find a way to blame someone else for their wrongdoings. If a husband cheats it’s his fault. If a wife cheats it’s also his fault
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 06:40 PM
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I would be genuinely turned on by it, and then work with her to realize the fantasies she turns to porn to fulfill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 05:45 PM
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Women care as much if not more about conforming to societal norms than “having a backbone”. Do you think the majority of women today are turned on if you “have a backbone” against the ridiculous mandates that governments all over the world have been dishing out for the last 1.5+ years? Think again. Women will be first in line to persecute the one that points out that the emperor has no clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 06:27 AM
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Being confident is attractive in individuals, arrogance is not Most women can’t see the difference. Watch what they do, not what they say. Women get fooled by confident men who are full of shit every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:13 AM
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What is interesting to me is a lot of men here who seem to dislike hypergamy also sort of insult the "modern career woman", but if a woman creates her own success is that not what you complain about other women for not doing? It’s because the career woman doesn’t ease her hypergamic demands at all, but demands an even more successful man, pushing towards a superhuman ideal. This hypergamic arms race is not sustainable when women are also competing with men in the job market/career.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:55 PM
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The sexes aren’t exactly the same either, so different things are equivalent. Women’s heavy use of vibrators can be equated to “the death grip” because they need increasing stimulation to get off when the clitoris becomes numb to normal human stimulation. Dildo use can be great for simulating cuckold inadequacy, but most men are not looking for the experience of being “on the same team” with other dudes/toys when having sex with their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 07:49 AM
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It doesn’t even need to be porn. Women get mad if their man looks at clothed models on instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 07:32 AM
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Have you tried being a man on dating apps? Once you have seen thousands of profiles and talked to hudreds you start to get perspective and notice patterns. Women from all walks of life, blonde or blue haired, basically enjoy the same things when it comes to dating and sex. That there might exist a one in a million exception to the rule doesn’t prove anything. I have talked to radfems. They have obnoxious views on gender relations, but still want to make an exception in the bedroom. It’s even mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:16 PM
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Hi 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:47 PM
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The radfems are also submissive in bed. Basic submission, wanting the man to lead in the bedroom, is the baseline for women of any predisposition. As a pickme you would stand out more by being dominant in the bedroom once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:01 AM
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You’re asking the wrong question. Do you believe any woman genuinely wants to be dominant? I have searched for this for a long time and I can’t find a woman who genuinely wants to be dominant exclusively and is not doing it for money. The kinky women who say they are dominant are usually a) in a poly situation where one of her lovers is dominant or b) doing it for money. It’s so naturally ingrained in women to be submissive in the bedroom, vanilla or kinky, that no amount of social conditioning …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:49 AM
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No, women seem to put a higher emphasis on education as some sort of proof that they are smart and are entitled to talk down to others. I’ve seen this too many times to be a fluke. Liberal arts education used to teach people methods to think for themselves and search for truth. Now it’s more like an indoctrination center for leftist propaganda. The smartest innovators are often college dropouts who taught themselves to think outside the box. Smart men recognize other smart people regardless of e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:16 AM
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It’s because of $$$ Everything else is gaslighting. Men are the fools who believe in fairy tales.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:51 AM
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Why? Because you think they are more feminine than straight men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:58 PM
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Men are generally less judgmental of men than women are. Most of “toxic masculinity” can be attributed to women’s judgment and expectations of men they are personally involved with. The remaining % is men warning other men because they are in the know and care about them thriving in this cruel world. It all boils down to women’s preferences and incentives. If you want a gentle world without war and strife, change who you are attracted to and who you reward with sex. Can’t change who you are attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:16 PM
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Sure, they get along better when they are allowed to follow their natural purpose. Men have lost their purpose and women refuse to do their part. Cohabitation or monogamy are not necessarily natural though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 07:27 AM
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A small percentage of women wait until their 30s to marry, staying busy in their 20s with education, work and casual flings in between? Following the advice of prominent female business “role models” to hook up with all the bad boys while they’re young and only later settle down with a nice provider type? Not in my experience and I’m sure statistics back that up. AF/BB are different sexual strategies that women usually divide between two different periods of their adult lives: AF=20-30, BB=30-40…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:11 AM
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She is probably just more of a wife material (for the well adjusted normal guy). More feminine, more loyal, has a less promiscuous past (which can be traumatizing as stated by OP), more family oriented etc. Contrary to what many modern women believe, men don’t want to marry one-of-the-guys dudettes who can drink men under the table and have tried everything under the sun. Or it’s simply that she is prettier, the prettiest he believes he can catch, which can allow her to bypass some of the other …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:36 PM
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Many men have never had a woman expressing interest/desire in them. Many men only get interest for their beta bucks qualities, which is not real desire and as validating as having a hooker showing interest in your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:06 AM
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Women would make a wise choice if they’d marry up and coming promising young men, instead of waiting at the finishing line to throw themselves at the winner. There will be much more competition for the successful men later in life, and they will want a younger less spoiled wife rather than the ones who have been on the carousel for years and finally want to settle down. The choice is 1) skip the slut phase and marry the most promising man you can get while young or 2) have “fun” for 10 years and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 12:05 PM
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This is just a strawman composed of everything you think is bad. I’m not a part of any sphere, but I would like to see more honesty and integrity in the current sexual morals. Modern women should either 1) not hold men to traditional expectations in the dating realm or 2) be traditional themselves. Currently they want to abandon their traditional responsibilities while men should keep all of theirs. But if one side of the equation changes the other side changes too. It makes no sense to play an …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 01:14 AM
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1) men in general prefer to be the pursuer (which I agree with) What about the ones that don’t? What if I told you it’s mostly women who repeat this BS because it makes life easier for them. Women want to be pursued. An increasing number of men want to feel desired too, and when first contact is usually made on apps, with no physical proximity to assess chemistry etc., men are not motivated enough to carry the whole weight of the conversation from A to Z. 2) when men make the first move they’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:21 PM
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The male equivalent would be a man who offers every woman he likes his total commitment and access to all his resources. What do women think about a man like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:01 PM
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So? And you wonder why men judge women who give it out easily?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 02:19 PM
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I see what you did there. Sex is the difference between romantic love and friendship. Women require sex too, but their list of requirements is longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 01:17 PM
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Women look for other cues than physical attractiveness, such as ability to provide resources and status, which is irrelevant when men evaluate attractiveness. Younger women tend to care about status within niche subcultures if they belong to those, but become more uniform in their preferences as the clock starts ticking louder.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 12:08 PM
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don't expect to meet good women in trashy clubs. If only clubs and bars were not closed due to mass hysteria. Where do you suggest I meet “good women”? Work?On the street? In the gym? Oops, they have all been cancelled because of MeToo and because women want to be left alone when going about their day. Dating apps? Women are passive and boring AF on dating apps when you are not escalating / pushing their boundaries, which is risky AH in this day and age, because of aforementioned reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 11:41 AM
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No, I don’t think so. What are the benefits? Most people want to be loved for who they really are. Men who swallowed TRP have found out at some point that they need to play a certain role for women to “love” them. Finding out that you can be loved when you are not yourself is even more damaging than not being loved when you are yourself. As a good looking introverted man I can easily attract women if I LARP as someone I would personally despise, but it’s not worth it in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:03 AM
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A woman loves the way a man makes her feel. As soon as he doesn’t provide whatever makes her feel that way, she stops loving. It’s a selfish and self-directed kind of love. Modern women are so hostile towards men I’m not sure they are even capable of this limited and transactional kind of love. With all their male-posturing and female chauvinism they are not very lovable themselves either. Uncontrollable horniness is the only reason some single men still pursue women, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 01:28 AM
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Just like how I'm settling for the "beta" woman if I marry someone less attractive than the hottest woman I hooked up with in my 20s. This is not how it works. Men lower their standards in their 20s, but in their 30s their RMV has usually increased while women in the same age range have lowered in RMV and SMV. You should be able to settle down with a woman in your 30s who was unavailable to you in your 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:27 AM
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When you say “leave them alone” did you mean not talk to them or interact with them at all? I thought you were talking about criminal actions, such as sexual harrassment or rape. If your logic works on that it should work on theft and murder too. Let’s demand a complete overhaul of human nature (and other species) and hope for the best. I refuse to lock my house, burglars should just stop stealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 01:42 PM
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Just tell her you are not her body guard. You don’t have to do anything you don’t want to do. If she needed protection she should have thought about that before and brought someone with her to protect her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:51 AM
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Great idea! If criminals could just stop doing crime then we would have a crimeless world! Mindboggling how no one thought of that before. Turns out there is a simple solution to end crime, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:34 AM
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“Be yourself” is a good way to weed out undesirables. Women don’t want men to rise up and improve themselves. It’s genetic and social class fatalism. If everyone follows the “Be yourself” advice it’s easier to spot the naturally and socially privileged and the rest will weed themselves out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:56 AM
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men like women That’s a sweeping generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 08:50 AM
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Most people are sleepwalkers and just repeat what they are told. Being like that is called being “woke” nowadays, just the latest example of leftist authoritarians hijacking a concept of liberty and turning it on its head. If the language doesn’t allow you to conceptualize free thought then you can’t have any free thoughts. They are really clever in their evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 08:23 AM
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but nobody goes to prison for telling their children something about biology and or anti-feministic... Are you sure about that? Maybe not prison, but the children will be ostracised in school by the teachers and kids. Word would get around and the parents would be socially rejected and humiliated by SJW bullies and probably lose their jobs. The children might even turn on their parents and deliberately report them to the authorities for wrongthink. Being prisoned for having the wrong opinions is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 08:00 AM
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Robots could be programmed to care about men in ways women can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 07:20 AM
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OP, forget about all the other pills. This is the Truth Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 01:05 AM
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No, but it’s the reason less successful men have relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:53 AM
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They are in for a huge disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:49 AM
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Oh, I see what you mean. No disagreement here. Except what you see as a parasitic relationship is what many women see as an ideal romantic relationship. They have coded the language about it to appear virtuous at all times, but once you stop seeing it through rose colored glasses that’s all it boils down to: All your resources in exchange for semi-regular sex (enthusiasm not guaranteed) and family life. Of course this kind of a deal demands a certain level of naivety on the male side, and nice g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 06:05 PM
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Agree with almost all you said, except the last paragraph. A promiscuous woman is the equivalent of the AF, good for short term casual sex but not long term. The nice guy/beta is the equivalent of the chaste, loyal woman who is better suited for LTR. The difference today is that most women have tried both roles while most men are not capable of being AF. Thus they marry what comes closest to a “madonna” but with traces of “whore” in her history. This history may cause her to yearn for the lost e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:04 PM
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For most men promiscuity in women is arousing when looking for short term / casual sex but revolting when looking for a long term relationship with the intention of starting a family. It’s probably a biological mechanism to secure the paternity of the children you spend most of your resources on. Men select for loyalty and “chastity” in long term partners, less so today of course, but it’s deeply ingrained in our instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 01:07 PM
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It’s what they had to do to get access to men’s resources and gain security for their offspring. Doesn’t mean some didn’t make an exception for a sneaky alpha visiting town. Monogamy was a way for men to safeguard the paternity of their children, but women may have evolved expertise in manipulation and deception to be able to secure better genes for their children. Read about “sexy son” hypothesis. Women who cheat usually do it unnoticed and with no remorse, while men often screw up their relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:31 AM
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She’s most likely going to cheat. Not necessarily, but it’s always a possibility. Always has been, but it’s easier now than ever, with OLD, social media a contraceptives. Most guys hate the idea of being the sexual loser who is settled for because of his long term prospectives. Open cuckoldry is one way to adapt to the reality of modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 10:43 AM
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AF/BB is very real in female psychology. They want both, but for a different purpose and for a different period in their lives. To be the AF you have to be top level in genetic quality, be masculine and offer her a fun time where she can discreetly let loose sexually without other women, current or future partner knowing about it. Women also want BB, but for financial provision, emotional support and the boring day to day stuff. He needs to be gentle, stoic and tolerant to be able to put up with…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:03 AM
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I do that too, but I’m boring and unambitious and they are more logical than the typical woman. The kind of ambitious, risk seeking types that certain businesses depend on thrive best in boys club environments where they can think and speak freely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 03:46 PM
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That’s why I think future workplaces should be as professional as possible. It protects from this sort of thing happening to anybody. Men are already opting out of the rat race en masse. Making the workplace a total borefest will not increase it’s attractiveness to men. Business connections will be lost and performance will lag behind those with more relaxed cultures. Another solution would be gender segregation in the workplace or male only and female only companies. Would be interesting to see…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 02:32 PM
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Joking around and not being a total bore is a part of connecting with people, networking, which is very important in many professions and crucial for moving upward in the hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 02:14 PM
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This is what ignoring means. Women will also complain about being left out. I’m sure they will classify it as some sort of bullying or “glass ceiling”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:05 AM
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She chooses to spend her life with a man she deep down resents. The hot guy pumps and dumps and never wastes a second of his life thinking about this woman again, much less seeing her every day. It takes deception to a much grander scale to spend your whole adult life living a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 01:32 AM
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Having another adult around 24/7 makes things much easier. 24/7? More like having a room mate who comes home all stressed out after work and has to unwind all her irritations on you as you “diplomatically” discuss who picks up the kids from daycare/school, who goes grocery shopping and who cooks dinner. Of course you have to tread lightly on this minefield because it’s EVIL PATRIARCHY to expect women to do anything in the home and she is PROUD that she only knows how to cook one dish and does it…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 01:23 AM
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Yeah, but men do not only talk about work at work. Women will be left out of the casual conversations and in-jokes. Then they will complain that men are conspiring to leave them out of the inner circle. It’s a never ending cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 01:02 AM
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No one asks a complete stranger out to dinner. First you talk and get to know them, maybe a coffee or drink, but not dinner. I’ll explain what I mean by integrity. If you think of yourself as an egalitarian person, you don’t make exceptions when you go on a date and act like it’s the 19th century. If you expect the man to lead the whole interaction and pay for it also, you are sending out the signal that you are a fragile flower that needs a man’s guidance, protection and provision. Every school…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:03 PM
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Not really surprised that you don’t understand what integrity means. No, when a friend invites me to dinner he/she is already a friend. I don’t invite complete strangers to dinner and neither would they.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:29 PM
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Yes, paying for dinner on a first date is bad if the woman is non-traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:25 PM
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They don’t want a traditional relationship but 99% of women on the dating market still expect men to play their traditional role when dating. They exchange their integrity for a free meal. Some make the excuse that it’s because men are turned off when the tables are turned or more equal. Guess what, the entire lifestyle of the modern woman is a turnoff to a lot of men who would want a more traditional deal. But it’s not our choice, women made the decision to go this route, so you’d better do it …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 08:30 AM
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Exactly, she’s worth the price of a meal. Why don’t women see how demeaning this is? Wouldn’t it be better to take money entirely out of the picture than to price yourself so low? It’s better to be a cheap hooker than no hooker at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 08:11 AM
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If your studies’ results are a medium of these countries then I’m not surprised that you think women do more housework on average. There’s a vast difference between Brazil, Turkey and USA. Some European countries have a lot of immigrants that would schew the average too with their imported traditionalism. Westerners who are fully immersed in feminist anti-culture paint a different picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 08:00 AM
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Depends on where you live, I guess. In every couple I see, apart from people old enough to be grandparents, the man does 50% or more and gets treated as a personal emotional punching bag as a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:41 AM
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Do any men want housewives? [...] Should the man make more in a relationship? Should a woman be submissive? Should the man be dominant? The real question is: Do modern women want or provide any of this? Not in my experience. They wanted equality and shirk their traditional responsibilities. Why should we keep our end of the deal when all we get in return is a stressed out, entitled career woman? It’s just stupid to keep on doing what clearly isn’t working when you get the opposite of what you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:58 AM
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Do you understand that woman do the majority of childcare and house work still If only that were true. Modern women think these things are below them and make a point of being bad at it. Why should we stick to our end of the deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:51 AM
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Not me. It’s a matter of principle and respect for the egalitarianism that modern women claim to adhere to. Theoretically I would provide for a woman who provides traditional femininity, but since such women are practically non-existent in the developed world I treat them as they present themselves, as equal, strong and independent women who can pay for their own meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:45 AM
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Where is the validation if it’s predicated on opening your wallet?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:49 PM
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The ideology seems to stem from the belief that alot of men feel we are moving towards gender and dating egalitarianism when it benefits women, but strict traditionalism, such as the man paying for dates if it benefits women. This 👆I can’t take a woman’s claim to equality seriously if she wants me to behave like it’s the 19th century when we go on a date. Make up your mind if you want equality or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:24 PM
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If you can’t describe it, are you sure it exists? Women may associate feeling secure and protected with romantic notions, but there is no reciprocity in that for the man. From the man’s perspective, the best we can hope for is a somewhat loyal, not too annoying companion/friend, who has more complex needs than other friends, but may make up for it by having sex with us fairly regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:46 AM
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You guys may be able to find sexual attraction to virtually any woman, but that’s not how we work. No, we don’t. I’m extremely picky about looks but have no expectations really about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 01:01 AM
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What does that even mean? No such thing as romance without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:46 AM
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You can want to have sex with someone and not be in love with them, yes? Yes, but can you love a woman and not want to have sex with her? Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:33 AM
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Have you heard about the madonna-whore complex? Women don’t really like that, even though they engage in a dual mating strategy themselves. A man should be horny in the instant (AF) or horny and waiting/providing/jumping hoops (BB). A man who doesn’t think about her sexually is not suitable for either role.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:30 AM
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Beyond the T&A I’m not sure anymore. Women’s personal characteristics have continuously proven to be a disappointment to me and a chimera to disguise transactional material needs. What I valued as a naive young man doesn’t seem to exist in modern women, if it ever existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:57 AM
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If you're maintaining a masculine or feminine "persona", you're making a rod for your own back and also deceiving your partner. What’s the alternative for men? Accept that you will be invisible to women for your whole life? Women can do whatever they want. Men who want heterosexual sex/relationships have to maintain a persona if they don’t fit the prescribed mold naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:30 PM
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In other words, the woman just has to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:46 AM
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Tends to be like that in the majority of relationships. Relationships like above inevitably end because the woman doesn’t want to “mother” the man. No shortage of woman looking for a man to be a father figure though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:43 AM
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It’s true that modern feminists don’t like it, they love it! But only in the bedroom and no one can know about it. It goes against everything they believe to be right == very sexy and exciting, for them. For tradcons who accept human biology as it is, it’s boring and predictable. Literally 99.99% of women are into being sexually submissive with the right guy. If the guy is slightly masculine, they’ll want that, even self-proclaimed “dommes”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 12:42 AM
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If people teach that it’s because they have learned from experience and have his best interest in mind. There is literally nothing to gain from being vulnerable with a woman. She will lose respect for him and she can’t love someone she doesn’t respect. It’s not a moral judgment on women, just biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 01:07 PM
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Of course you would find a way to blame men for women’s lack of support. Most men have tried to open up about real problems with a woman they are involved with, and felt the dire consequences. It’s a mistake you don’t want to repeat too often, so we shut up and play tough. It’s not something men learn from parents, peers or teachers, but from their early experiences with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:47 PM
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What kind of support do you feel is lacking? It’s “Aww your team lost? I’ll give you a hug, big man” but “Your boss keeps bullying you? Grow a backbone, loser” ... or if she avoids direct confrontation “I’m just not feeling it today/I have a headache”. She’ll give support on trivial issues but not the real ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:16 PM
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Men are expected to be “a rock” in the relationship and “have their shit together”. This support thing is mostly the woman venting about her day and various problems she comes up with. Modern women are not providing much support for their partners when they need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:01 PM
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If your partner is having issues with stress you help them out. That’s the whole point of a relationship. Do you honestly think that’s the point of a relationship from a man’s perspective? For most men, if they are having issues with stress, that is the point in the timeline of the relationship where it ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:04 AM
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Yes, but people still manage to get horny when they are single, even and maybe especially those who live a busy and stressful life. A single parent has the same chores to do as a coupled one and no one to share the workload with. The uncomfortable truth is that familiarity breeds contempt, a married “low libido” woman would rather be having sex with someone other than her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:52 AM
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Me personally? I may be, but most men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:18 AM
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Interesting theory about testosterone in women. That would explain why there are no single 30+ moms on Tinder looking for hookups. They have no libido after finishing all the chores. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 10:40 PM
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women's sexuality outside of being teenagers and early twenties is far more complicated that just being sexually attracted to a juiced up "chad" Women keep coming up with novel ways to be difficult. Difficult to approach, difficult to please, difficult to maintain. When is the point where men collectively just stop to care and go their own way? Maybe the sexes are just not meant to cohabit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 08:05 PM
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Sounds like an internal thought loop is constantly setting yourself up for disappointment. I hope you work it out dude. It may sound like that, but I’m happy with myself. I just don’t want to pretend and perform. If anything I am setting myself up for their disappointment, because of their preconceived notions of how I should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:38 AM
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This will lead men to try to subjugate and repress female sexuality because it is such a threat to most men's sense of self and ego. It’s more like a threat to men’s sense of justice and righteousness. A world where violent criminals run the show is just evil and a collapse of civilization. Women also like to deceive with the “women are wonderful” trope and tend to openly vouch for non-threatening men, so they are not entirely blameless for the misconception that their gender is not largely on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:26 AM
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what “show” is this you’re referring to specifically? Just the whole rules of the game. Having to lead, be interesting, be confident, make friendly “banter”, be assertive but not too much etc. None of that comes naturally to me, but it’s the only approach that has ever worked for me. I get tons of matches on OLD so I must be all right in the looks department. It’s just the social part of it that feels disingenuine. I feel like I’m always expected to be someone I’m not, and that makes me less int…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:06 AM
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Yes, I’m older than 35. I fit your criteria of experienced men who can go on dates. I like older women as friends/colleagues, just not in the context of dating where I have to put on a show because they all have the same requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:49 AM
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I’m long past the rebound phase. The divorce was many years ago and I have dated many women since then. I could go on a date any day of the week but I just don’t find it worth it. I’m fine with being a hermit. But my standards for physical beauty have increased in proportion with my disappointment in the character/personality of women as I get to know more of them. That’s all I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:30 AM
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I thought I had found it too. I guess these guys haven’t experienced divorce yet. The more women I meet after that, the more they all seem the same. You can’t really get back the naivity necessary to think someone stands out from the rest personality wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:17 AM
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When I was young and naive I believed I could find a woman who was a companion, a confidant, an ally, even a soulmate. I didn’t have a list a requirements as to how she should look, but of course I had to be attracted to her. As I got older and more experienced I’ve found that this woman does not exist, women’s objectives are fundamentally opposed to men’s and especially mine. They think of men in terms of utility and are unable to love on a deeper level. The juice is not worth the squeeze for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:40 PM
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Wow, you may be on to something. No idea what it will result in but keep working on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:07 PM
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Are you sure about that? Maybe men are getting less and less interested in getting to know strange women. I know I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 08:18 AM
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Probably not. That’s not the point. They probably thought no woman really liked sex, but at least the hookers were available and affordable. Men today have female sexuality and promiscuity on display all day, but many get left out and become angry at the people who are having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 11:45 AM
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Those men thought non-hooker women didn’t like sex. Now we know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 11:33 AM
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You’re probably right. Women are incredibly self-centered.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:45 AM
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So are you saying that most women are so ugly that they need to paint a pretty picture on their face to hide it? Nothing wrong with taking care of yourself, eating healthy, staying fit, skin care, hair products etc. Men do that too. But this face painting is just deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:54 AM
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Did you not notice some of the bad behaviors she listed, including one threatening to rape her? Yes, I was responding to the first part, not the part about the rapey threats, which were disgusting obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:35 AM
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You noticed him because he made a performance that pleased you. He might as well have a superior mind, be an enlightened being or the kindest person alive, but if he has no utility to a woman he remains invisible to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:01 AM
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It's because men like the respect and admiration so that is what women give. Are you sure about that? I like to be valued for qualities that I really possess, not the perceived idealized qualities that exist mostly in women's imagination. Women are disappointed when they find out that men are flawed humans, just like them. I have no problem with being put on a pedestal. Sign me up. You'll think that until you experience it yourself. I don't like being put on a pedestal either or have huge expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:50 AM
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I’m not buying it. I think it’s hard-wired into women to lose respect and perception for (they become invisible) men who they don’t perceive as being superior in one way or another. It’s coded into the Bible just to pass on the knowledge of hypergamy from generation to generation. If a woman does not look up to a man she will not stay long in any kind of arrangement with him, be that a work relationship or a romantic/sexual one. Men don’t understand this intuitively, because we have the opposite…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:48 AM
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She was raised conservative Christian, like me. We are taught from a young age the men are superior and natural leaders and that we should accept their superiority and submit. Wow, didn’t know that existed in the western world anymore. Where I’m from nobody is taught anything like that. Yet women hold men to superhuman standards and expect us all to want to lead, and are massively disappointed when our mere humanity becomes apparent. I think it’s more like a biological predisposition of women th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:30 AM
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Wow, you discovered that men are people. Too bad it only made you jaded, but didn’t make you empathize with them, you know...as people. If women could stop holding men to superhuman standards and somehow get over it, it might improve the relations between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:15 AM
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I don’t. Maybe that’s why I don’t like soulless women with a bottomless hunger for other people’s vital energy/resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:58 PM
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So you like vampires? Vampires are also insatiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:44 PM
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All materialistic desire is insatiable and leads to suffering. Being overtly materialistic shows that the woman has not grasped what is truly important in life, such as human connection, love, inner peace etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:42 AM
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You can dress to look nice without paying more than half the price just for a prominent brand logo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:26 AM
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Have you tried being more brash and vulgar when you go out? True, pretending to be an asshole generally helps genuinely nice guys, but has a high chance of backfiring in the form of #metoo accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:58 AM
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This is the answer 👆 Enthusiasm is negatively correlated with experience. The “thousand cock stare” is real. More experience means less enthusiasm not just for sex, but all of life’s experiences that you want to share with a partner. Men are generally expected to entertain women, to possess drive and an adventurous spirit. What fun is it to explore the world with someone who has seen it all and done it all before? Men are generally expected to lead when interacting with a woman of romantic inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:26 AM
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No, it means that one guy has 10 women on rotation while 9 guys get nothing. Market anarchy in the SMP leads to an animalistic state where the leaders of the pack get everything and the rest get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:57 AM
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There's this parroted idea on this sub that most men would apparently drop their girlfriends in a second if it meant they could have casual sex elsewhere, implying that they aren't truly romantically attracted to her to begin with. What does that even mean, to be romantically attracted, if you take sex out of the picture? And not to mention that women do get into LTRs even after having casual sex. If men are inclined to "want what they can have" then why would you have a problem with LTRing a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:00 AM
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You’re right. Envy is the word I was looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:53 AM
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My premise is that these men explicitly want casual sex. Fucking multiple women uncommittedly and whatnot. Most men can’t have that, and men are more inclined to want what they can have instead of making impossible demands. Your premise is comparable to advising poor people to just become filthy rich and thus solve their problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:51 AM
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If you want casual sex with women, yet don't want women to have casual sex, then you're advocating for a sitaution that makes it even harder to get casual sex. If no one was having casual sex, then everybody would be looking to get into relationships and have sex within the relationship. More men would stand a chance and sex would be more evenly distributed in one-to-one pairings instead of one-to-many. No contradiction there. I get jealous of people more attractive than me. My response to that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 08:53 AM
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It’s called jealousy envy (edit). Women who hate on “instathots” and the most beautiful woman at a party are doing the same. They don’t hate her because they hate beauty, but because they have less of it themselves. It’s a very human emotion, but sexual jealousy/envy is an especially male thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 08:39 AM
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Some men are more ambitious, but for the most part, men did it because that’s what they had to do to be socially rewarded with a wife and a family. Now men are punished for just existing and providers are laughed at. Ambition and drive is pointless for most men if there is no carrot at the end of the stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 08:08 AM
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Who cares? Are young women particularly concerned with looking reputable? Doesn’t seem so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:28 PM
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a straight man who is viscerally attracted to their female partner, is going to go extra lengths for the woman than the straight woman who only sees her as a friend, Fair enough. Love makes us do stupid things for someone who would never return the favor. But it gets harder to fall into that mindset with age and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:14 AM
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because men and women are socialized to be so different right now. On what planet is that true? Women are socialized to be like men in western societies, but mostly do a mediocre job at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 01:34 AM
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What’s so special about a dick? A strapon dildo can do the job better than most dicks. Modern women have rendered men useless and should just own it. Women look better, smell better and understand you better. They can strap on a dildo and play dominant in the bedroom. Most men do it as a performance anyway. Outside of the bedroom they are just like your girlfriends, only uglier, smellier and less caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:56 PM
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But why are they interested in dating men? A man will never understand or empathize with a woman the way a woman does, and if he reaches that level of understanding he will probably not want to date women anymore. Is that maybe the reason? Women know women too well and can’t be manipulated the way men can? I think women want to date a mythical male archetype, that no man can really live up to be, but the best actor wins the game. Until he shows his true flawed nature and she either leaves or rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:50 PM
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You have written an excellent guide for men who want to know how to die alone and unhappy. The masses are starving and have no bread. Let them eat cake!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:33 AM
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What does yoga and going to art museums have to do with feminism? Most successful artists in the history of the world have been men. Your view of masculinity is very limited, but then you say it’s not about being feminine but being feminist? Again, where’s the correlation? Men who are deep into yoga philosophy are usually pretty based and traditionlist. When you know your inner spiritual core you are less moved by the BS narratives that are floating around. Feminism is a revolt against the laws …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:07 AM
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you can't make something transgressive or forbidden when it obviously isn't, as is the case these days. I like your line of thinking. Feminists may be the new puritanical hypocrites. They insist on equality and female subjugation of men in all areas of life except sex, where they are overwhelmingly into male domination and daddy complexes. On the flip side, female domination is transgressive and exciting for conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 06:44 AM
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Yes, and that’s not the same thing? They want to be a woman’s best, maybe because they know that a woman will only want the best she can get or forever regret losing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:55 AM
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Are you saying women were never manipulative in history, never pretended to be virtuous and monogamous, emotionally attached and enthusiastic about one man only, while they cheated behind his back with someone more genetically appealing? There was no way to find out, if she kept her mask of innocence and lied without blinking. Women are masters of deception, always have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 08:11 AM
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Didn’t say that, but suggested it as an underlying reason behind teaching women to be chaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:57 AM
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You occasionally wonder how you were satisfied with past partners. Just wait until you wonder how you settled with your future partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 01:30 AM
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It’s actually the other way around. Women were taught in the past to withold sex until they found someone special and long term, because men bond through sex and are inherently repulsed by promiscuity. Women were said to be the emotional, romantic ones, maybe in an attempt to convince women rather than men. The “fairer sex” is actually a bluff for the manipulative and detached sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 01:24 AM
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still had to show that he had resources and that he had a way to provide for her . Why is that any different or why should that be any different today?!?! Because women don’t need to be provided for, and men have less incentive to make the sacrifices necessary to provide for someone who doesn’t value it. Modern women are successful at being men, not at being women. Men who were providers before got a wife who took care of the home and children and made the husband feel valued at home after a lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 08:33 AM
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You didn’t understand any of what I said. I’m talking about human nature, not my personal views on marriage. In fact, you can be married and sleep with other people with your spouse’s approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 07:23 AM
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I know, and that is a problem. Wasn’t always the reality. It’s a specific idea that was marketed to women through media, Sex and the City, Cosmopolitan etc. It’s not a natural law that young people are incapable of conducting their lives responsibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:16 PM
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It also seems that there is a sacrifice to be made by a guy who wants to be a woman's best - the higher level of woman a guy strives for, the less likely it is that he will be her "best". That’s why people should marry as young as possible, when the men has demonstrated a high probability for success and the woman looks her best and has not been ruined by too much experience with other men. It’s always a risk and a sacrifice for both, but not as much trying to find love in your 30s or 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:12 PM
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions. People strive to overcome obstacles, to get what they don’t have, but once they have it it often becomes an obstacle itself. Marriage is an obstacle to sleeping with other people, which makes it ever more exciting. If you want to stay with someone for your whole life it might be better achieved if it is against all odds, without any vows or commitment, so you have to choose this person every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:51 PM
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That equilibrium will only be reached after mass depopulation, which coincides with what the elites of mass media and big tech want anyway, so it’s a win-win for them. The old division of labor within marriage has been destroyed by feminism and women entering the work force. The concept of love has been deconstructed by the entertainment industry and porn. We all know too much about the other sex and we know that they are horrible. There are some remaining women who are essentially looking for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:28 PM
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They’re just projecting their own thoughts and feelings. Same with old feminist concepts such as “objectification” and “the male gaze”. They can’t see men as more than useful objects and can’t empathize with men, therefore men must think and feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:15 PM
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No, they want a sexually and socially dominant man who happens to simp for her only, but mostly when other people are watching. In the bedroom he has to be dominant. That’s one of the reasons I’m less interested in being sexually dominant as I age. It doesn’t feel transgressive or naughty at all anymore, but feels more like a role that is imposed on us men whether we like it or not. Just a part of the monkey dance. The more women you know intimately, the more obvious it becomes that they all wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:51 PM
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Everybody dies alone. But the husband’s death is in fact an important benefit of marriage for the woman. Just count how many in this thread mention “tax benefits” or “insurance”. There is nothing abstract or romantic about marriage for women, and young men need to snap out of the disney fairy tale they have been indoctrinated with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:04 AM
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Ok and you, a woman, are best fitted to speak about the lived experience of the vast majority of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:50 AM
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Have you seen a normal curve? “Chad” is one or two standard deviations away from normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:48 AM
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Clearly the purpose of marriage is divorce or death, but you already ruled out divorce. They changed the vows to erase all benefits for men, but they didn’t erase that. It’s a big insurance scam perpetrated against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:43 AM
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Oh, I thought you were looking for quality men that take years of sorting through to find. That’s not normal. Normal is 68% of the men you see every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:37 AM
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Appreciate the support for my comment, but that woman is called your mother. Or anyone’s mother. Any other woman doesn’t care about men’s problems. They don’t even want to know that they have them, or that these men exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:29 AM
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I meant men. No man can actually live up to the ridiculous expectation women have of them. It’s all make-believe. There’s no big daddy on a white/black horse who is going to save you and knows all the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:24 AM
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Where do they live then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:49 PM
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Hint: Everybody is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:48 PM
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You live in a world too alien for the vast majority of men to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:07 PM
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And then they fall for the best pretender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:05 PM
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Fair enough. But you can’t equate men being alone with women being alone. There is no “you go guy!” movement for men. MGTOWs who support each other are frowned upon, ridiculed, vilified by the rest of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:59 PM
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you shouldn't shame women that choose to be by themselves. You don’t get what he was saying. Women are never really alone. They still meet their girlfriends regularly, whether they are single or not, and single non-hideous women still get plenty of sexual attention and validation. Men above a certain age tend to disappear into relationships/marriage and stop meeting their friends. There’s no such thing as “guys’ night out” for married men or straight men meeting their friends for brunch, happy h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:31 PM
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Not everyone agrees on that. It’s in the middle of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. Some countries provide government paid prostitutes for the disabled.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 09:11 PM
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Sounds like you might be asexual. The actions you describe should be arousing to someone with an average libido, even without experience. Just looking at it or thinking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:42 PM
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Females of all species may certainly enjoy sex, and I am quite sure they do, but first and foremost, sex must be useful to them. That enjoyment is useful in and of itself. A modern woman will order attractive men like pizza on tinder, without anyone’s knowledge (no status upgrade), with no other utilitarian gain than the bodily pleasure. What she doesn’t know, if she is not a PPD regular, is that it decreases her value for LTR minded men, who are left out of this exchange and never get to experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:20 PM
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You forgot the fourth category which is very common: Guys who they will have casual sex with and want a relationship with. Usually these men are out of their league and don’t want a relationship, but many women think they can change that. If they are in the same league it’s no problem, but as you said, men date up lookswise but sex down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:51 PM
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When you put it like this, it becomes obvious that women have been making men slave away for them for centuries. It’s one of the greatest scams in history how man-hating lesbians (early feminists) and later corporations managed to convince women that they were the ones being oppressed, that they needed to join the plantation to be free. But you are mistaken if you think women don’t need sex as much as men. However most can easily get sex casually or in various forms of situationships, without gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:30 PM
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Men don’t grow out of red pill truths. You either internalize it permanently or fail at relationships with women and end up on square one, having to learn it again. TRP existed long before Reddit and the internet. Its truths are spoken of in classic literature, religious texts and philosophy. The chaos of women was contained by the moral structures of civilization built up for millenia, but destroyed in one century, so it’s more important now than ever to teach men what they are dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:12 PM
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0-15 if she wants to be monogamous with me. I’ll accept a much larger number if she agrees to keep on being a slut and cuckold me. I don’t believe in reformed sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:44 AM
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Exactly. Cucks learn to love their biggest fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:36 PM
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It’s a twist on Dr. Strangelove’s secondary title
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:30 PM
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Not all men. Cucks love that talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:08 PM
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There more I learn about how women actually think when they are not censoring themselves, the more I want to stay away from all relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 11:09 PM
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Why did Gen X women like Leo DiCaprio in Titanic and Johnny Depp when he usually starred as an emo crybaby? Because they were younger then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 07:30 AM
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The woman I invest in and commit to is the prettiest I can catch, who is also presentable to friends and family. She is feminine enough and doesn’t have an annoying personality or obnoxious views that she has to impose on everyone around her. I don’t really care about n count if she can behave respectably when she is expected to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 10:32 PM
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There are a lot more men that like dominant women than women who like submissive men. Truly dominant men are very few and far between. My guess is that a lot of men pretend to be dominant because that’s what the vast majority of women like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 12:06 AM
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Why do women match with men on OLD who they are not going to respond to? I get hundreds of matches but I’ve stopped sending the first message because 1) I don’t know which one is going to respond and 2) it would literally take all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:55 PM
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I believe it’s pretty universal that women test men for strength by throwing all kinds of attitude, problems and random shit in their general direction to see how they react. It’s mostly unconscious behavior. Even female animals do it. I’m sorry to hear about your boyfriend and his porn problem, but I don’t think it’s related to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:12 PM
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any type of game between people in a relationship nullifies the relationship in my eyes so good luck with those ppl. So men should stop being attractive and keeping the flame alive once they are in a relationship? More than 90% of men would just be nice if that’s what worked and was reciprocated. It would be life on easy mode. Unfortunately women can’t control what they are attracted to, they never stop shit testing and see niceness as weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:30 AM
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OP is about men being nice to women. It doesn’t translate well to women. Men want women to be nice. If he has to hide his niceness in order to get that kindness and compassion from her, then that’s what he has to do. It’s a fucked up dynamic, but if he flips the script and is all nice every day, she gets cold and leaves. Men being nice to women to get romantic affection is the equivalent of sending dick pics to strangers. They would want pussy pics in their inbox so they figure women want the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:08 AM
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And where does that lead you? You’re here craving his affection. Maybe you wouldn’t even be with him anymore if he was always nice to you. I don’t know about your relationship, but some men use dread game to keep the woman on her toes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:44 AM
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I think you need to work on your reading comprehension. I said women should be nice to their men, by all means. It’s attractive. Experience teaches men however that women don’t respond very well to men being nice to them, become cold, distant etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:16 AM
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How so? Are you a dude? Men try to be nice to women because they want women to be nice to them. We have to learn by trial and error that being nice to women is a net negative, even when we look attractive. It makes no sense, but it is what it is. For women the opposite is true, but somehow it becomes incredibly complicated in the woman brain to simultaneously not be a bitch and not be obese, so they focus on makeup or fashion or other minor things that men hardly notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 12:48 AM
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Then why are y'all still complaining about male sexlessness? Because sex is the only valuable contribution a modern woman can still make to a man’s life? It’s not worth the hassle of a relationship, but the sex drive is a strong urge that makes men do stupid things and inflict suffering on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:54 AM
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Did you read what I wrote? No problem with it if she is consistent about her standards. It’s the double strategy (AF/BB) that frustrates men who are not 1) in the AF category or 2) literally cucks who get off on humilation. Our mothers and grandmothers did not wait until their 30s to find a suitable husband after riding the CC, so their suitors weren’t fools when they adhered to the standards they set. The current generation of women has been sold a lie, that they can slut it through their 20s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:39 AM
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Wining and dining is OK is that’s her standard for every man. If he knows that a 2 am “wyd?” was enough for someone else to get in her pants, he feels like a fool having to jump through those hoops. Why is it so hard to understand? It’s literally spelled out in every other discussion on this sub by multiple different men with different motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:25 PM
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Feminism changed women in such a way that pursuing a relationship with them is no longer worth the effort. Men were never asked if they wanted to pick up half or more of women’s traditional duties. Hint: They didn’t. Women decided on their own that they wanted to be overworked, overstressed careerists. Now they reap the “benefits”. Their dating pool has dwindled and men don’t bother to keep up with their ridiculous expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:15 PM
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But isn’t hooking up with them also just adding to the issue? A master key is worthless if the lock is broken and opens up with any other key. Keys don’t like to feel worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:56 PM
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When the majority of women have a history of doing sex work for money there is no one left to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:32 AM
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Buying a product is not the same as producing it. Should I get my liver checked if I listen to a Rolling Stones album? For the record, I have never paid for porn or sex, but I don’t want to make this personal. I even like women with a slutty past, but getting paid for it makes it somehow more sleazy and offputting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:03 PM
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I see you found your unicorn. His name is very fitting too. Absolutely nobody doesn’t watch porn ever. So your whole point is that you want men to judge actual pornstars as harshly as they judge the girl next door doing an OF? This is childish and ridiculous. Are you even old enough to be on this forum?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:48 PM
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No I don’t. Why do you have to make it personal?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:38 PM
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You seem to have a lot of negative feelings associated with sex and the sex drive of men, which is very visual. Women watch almost as much porn as men. I’m not saying it’s all healthy, but the acts performed are mostly the same as any sexually healthy couple would perform from time to time, when they are feeling explorative. If you’re an asexual or a victim of trauma or abuse, don’t you think it’s unfair to project your negative views on people who are just expressing or finding release for thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:33 PM
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Should men only take women seriously who have never read a romantic novel? I can enjoy the music and art from people who have fried their brain with hard drugs, but wouldn’t want to date them. People in the sex industry are not compatible with people who want a normal family life. Doesn’t mean you can’t indulge in their products occasionally, or that you have to judge them harshly for making different life choices. They’re just not compatible. The problem with OF is the normalization and blurrin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:20 PM
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I’m not angry. Just answering your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:33 PM
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if we can make money off of men’s obsession with our bodies why wouldn’t we? Because it ruins your reputation and no one (except cucks) will want you for a LTR. You’ll have a hard time finding a respectable job too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:14 PM
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Because they are mostly normal girls/women from normal homes. They are someone who could be in our dating pool, but instead show up in our porn search, which means they have ruined their chances of ever becoming LTR material to most men. Porn stars are professionals who forego their chance of living a normal life in exchange for some riches (if they’re lucky). OF porn creators want to eat the cake and have it too, go the forbidden path that makes them untouchables to most men, while demanding it…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 08:21 AM
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I present to you the article that says otherwise. It has link to a peer-reviewed sociological research paper: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/magazine/does-a-more-equal-marriage-mean-less-sex.amp.html Where is your evidence? And yes, before you ask, if a woman “respects” a man but won’t have sex with him, that kind of “respect” is worthless to any man in a sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 05:25 PM
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Statistics show that an increase in women in the paid workforce has not meant that men contribute fairly to housekeeping and childcare, Why should it mean that? When were men asked if they wanted that? What benefit is there for a man to make sacrifices just so that an entitled woman can lose her respect for him? I.e. doing less of what makes him attractive to her (his career) to make time for doing what she deep down considers women’s work and thus not attractive in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 04:00 PM
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Women married younger. They didn’t all have a 5-10 year long slut phase before settling down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 11:09 PM
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Well...men feel exhausted and tired after sex, with added emptyness and self-resentment after masturbation, while women are often ready for another go right after and feel more sexual and energized after an orgasm. At least that’s what women report. It doesn’t need a rocket scientist to find out what it’s like for men at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 10:16 AM
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It’s just the old “man bad, woman good” trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 09:34 AM
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Makes sense that it would be the same for women. But women often make a point of saying a man is as replaceable or even less enjoyable than a dildo/vibrator. Women are also energized by sex, while men deplete energy and more so by masturbation since it doesn’t release oxytocin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 09:25 AM
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If no one else is able to say it, then it’s not basic. Most of the “basic” stuff is not allowed to be talked about on normal dating forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 08:49 AM
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Having sex everyday with your partner is the same as masturbating everyday. No, it’s not that same. At least for men, it’s very different and releases different chemicals.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 04:49 AM
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I would say a woman's FWB is like a man's STR/LTR that is below his league and he isn't all that into This is right. I would add that it can be a woman that the man is really into but she isn’t that much into him or likes him only for the friendship and sex. He may not share her values, not be ambitious/rich enough etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 12:35 AM
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What? Men in relationships are listening to whining and nagging from women every day, even wasting mental energy on trying to solve their problems, but the clever ones have learned that women just need to vent and don’t want solutions. Same women have zero tolerance for listening to men talk about their problems, so they have to keep it to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:32 AM
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Your Russian examples are like Western Europe and the US 30 years ago. We are like a warning from the future, if your government allows feminism to spread its poison like it did in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:27 AM
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Modern women do not provide supportive human relationships to men. Haven’t you heard about emotional labor and the dreaded mental load? It’s basically a crime against womanhood to expect any of that nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:21 AM
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It’s all right. The guy may be talking to other women also and she may not be at the top of his mind. But a woman who shows interest proactively is a refreshing change for most men. If he doesn’t respond positively he probably has no interest and may be out of her league.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:14 AM
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Because women like being cogs in a machine? They think work alone, almost any work, gives them purpose. I have yet to meet one woman on OLD who doesn’t say she loves her job.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:41 AM
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Based on whose authority? Exactly. Swallowing hook, line and sinker what authorities want you to worry about is not a good way of approaching truth. When the validity of scientific theories is measured by public opinion polls, and the public is spoon fed exactly the information that benefits the powers that be, something fishy is going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:27 AM
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When I ask men their hobbies or whats important to them they usually say "idk" Do you think most men on this sub would answer like that? On second thought, maybe they would, because what is important to non-brainwashed men is not allowed to be talked about openly. Climate change, plastic waste and covid are diversions for simps. We care a lot about the world and where it's going. Men also care about nerdy things such as sci-fi and video games which are not considered cool or sexy, but often cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:55 PM
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Yes, pretty much. Also, by entering the work force and often outpacing men, while at the time only dating men who earn equal or more, women are pushing the bar to unattainable heights for most men. And for what? A woman who loves her career more than her family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:16 PM
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By all the other “you go girl” queens. Women care way more about status than men. Men care about it because of what it entails, or used to entail. The juice is not worth the squeeze when men are aware what a shit deal being beta bux to a modern woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:05 PM
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Women are applauded for doing mediocre paper pushing or middle management jobs, while men who are not in the top positions are told whatever they do is just the bare minimum. A lot of jobs that need to be done are not worth being excited or ambitious about when there is no external incentive, such as a loving wife at home who values and respects her husband for his hard work. Women seem to really love their career for its own worth, not as a means to an end. Of course there are also men who love…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:47 PM
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Most men who have a mediocre office job are not overly enthusiastic about it or talk about it as if it’s the most important thing in their life. They value their free time, passions/hobbies and time spent with friends and family. I think OP is referring to that difference. I know many women who waste way too much mental energy on their job, which goes mostly unnoticed by their managers, and stress about it at home too. I’m not a surgeon or an executive and I don’t need to take my job with me whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:20 PM
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It’s like prison sex in the cultural prison of feminism. Everybody has a mixture of masculine and feminine attributes. The ones who are weaker or more feminine assume the feminine role in the absence of women, or in this case when women are only attracted to a small percentage of men. Sexuality is more fluid and situational than most would have you believe. Probably very few of those sissies or femboys hold any beliefs that they were born in the wrong body. It’s just that women, when given the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:49 AM
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If no then how do you expect guys who are unnattractive to learn how to flirt when any flirting they do is met with cold resistance. Agree with the women that they have no duty to teach you how to flirt. Practice on someone who is actually attracted to you. If you’re not attracted to her, think of it as a learning experience, practice. If no woman is attracted to you then you have other issues that need to be dealt with first. Hit the gym, update your wardrobe etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 07:49 AM
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Flawless logic. The modern woman is more comparable to a porn actress than a whore, hence the easy transition for normal middle class women into OF “modelling”. One must give liberal feminism credit where credit is due for this great accomplishment in shaping a generation. Andrea Dworkin must be turning in her grave.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 06:52 PM
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You are taking their words too literally. Most guys are in fact decent, normal and considerate. That’s exactly what’s wrong with their personality. If you want to understand female psychology, you have to turn your morality upside down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:51 PM
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Why do women have this enormous belief in the magic solution of therapy? Therapists mostly just sit and listen without saying a word, in between lecturing about their own personal world views. Psychologists are vastly overrated and many of them have deep issues themselves. Psychiatrists only prescribe drugs as a solution. Most psychological problems can be solved with a healthy diet, enough sleep and plenty of exercise. Men will not magically become happy and confident by talking to a therapist,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:20 PM
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What if both men and women are on the inside the complete opposite of what they present on the outside? Makes sense that something soft and sensitive would need a harder shell to protect it. Likewise something cold and ruthless would need to present itself as soft and caring on the outside, in order to not scare off the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:01 PM
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It’s sad how many women are gullible to the BS narratives that corporations and the media push on them, and mistake those narratives for values. It’s like they want men to be gullible followers of absolute bullcrap, yet somehow maintain their masculinity about it. Masculine men are overwhelmingly free spirits who value thinking for themselves, not being blind followers of whatever dogma is prevalent at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:52 AM
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But you couldn’t, because the “strong and independent” is all talk and no walk, when push comes to shove.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:30 AM
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The future is bright for generations of conservatives, when leftists have all self-selected out of the gene pool. Cats will enjoy a good life too, being spoiled by aging feminists who need some outlet for their nurturing side.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:26 AM
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Women want a man who can be funny. Men want a woman with a good sense of humor, i.e. who laughs at his jokes. That is the difference, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:06 AM
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I think it’s a great development that leftist women are remaining childfree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 06:53 AM
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Or maybe kind-heartedness is unattractive to women and they are just attracted to evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:59 AM
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If the woman looks and acts like she needs it, i.e. she is weaker and dependent on other people’s help and protection. If Titanic happened today on a cruise ship full of strong and independent women who are strangers to me, I would not give up my place in the life boat for one of those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:51 AM
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However, we don’t want to discourage otherwise potentially successful men from getting married. Yes we do. The reason men get married in the first place is that they are more naive than women and don’t know what marriage means nowadays, which is asolutely nothing. Men are the gender that is able to be loyal, chivalrous and love fully and beyond the grave. That’s why they actually believe the fairy tales they are sold in the culture. No one tells them that women are the complete opposite, are una…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:03 PM
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But when it's 50/50 she distances herself and isn't as affectionate. It's PUA 101. Push and pull, dread game, negging etc. All this is because of hypergamy. If she perceives herself as having equal standing, or a above him, she thinks she can do better and is on to the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 09:49 PM
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And when the love is gone it never returns. She was a chameleon. He was a performer. When he shows his flawed true self her love evaporates, because it was never for him but her image of him in her head and her feelings associated with that image.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:31 PM
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This is more often the case when the woman (or both) is younger and less experienced. Experience only adds baggage to a woman. Older women with obnoxious opinions and non-negotiable “values” indoctrinated by big media will call these women “pickmeishas”. Yet they all did the same at some point in their lives. While a man is supposed to keep his frame, be experienced and make an impression, a woman will adjust her values and even hobbies and music taste to a man she is infatuated with. Women abso…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 05:09 PM
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Not all women deserve to become mothers. Anyone can be an average corporate drone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:24 PM
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The manual work is easy. Being a great mother is not. It is an art of communicating love, instilling virtue and morals but also discipline. Great mothers are competent at many skills instead of being focused and expert on one skill, which men are more naturally inclined to. A great mother is a decent cook, baker, teacher, friend, moral authority, coach, pep talker, art instructor, planner etc. etc. Women are naturally inclined to juggle many tasks, manage time and do a decent job at all. It does…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 10:47 PM
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Misery loves company.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:55 PM
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What about the housewives who stashed money in coffee cans? Were they privileged? At least they didn’t have to go out every day and slave away for some stranger, often in dangerous situations. By robots do you mean a roomba? Yes, a roomba is a robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:03 AM
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It’s hypocritical to claim that you are strong, independent and equal, when you can’t wait to become weak, dependent and submissive when no one is watching. It’s a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. hyde way of living your life, the opposite of having integrity, being a full honest human who thinks, says and does what he means regardless of who is watching.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:52 PM
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Maximum hypocrisy is what they crave. A natural born asshole who pays lip service to feminism, but she knows that he knows that all know that it’s absolute bullcrap. But let’s play pretend while the neighbors are watching.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:40 PM
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Absolutely. I would accept this deal in a heartbeat. I would finish the household chores before noon and have the rest of the day to pursue my hobbies, read, work out etc. Housewives in the past had such a privileged life, especially after the invention of washing machines and dishwashers. Now there are even robots to vacuum and clean the floor. I’d oversee the machines and robots and have lots of easy, carefree time for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 10:23 PM
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She’s not pretty enough or not presentable to his friends and family. It may be because of her prior experience, n count, kids, tattoos, weight/size, social class, age etc. Lots of qualities that disqualify a woman from relationship status but not necessarily from sex, most of which are well known to the man before any sex happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:15 AM
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Yes, women overestimate men’s enthusiasm to talk about women in the few male only spaces that exist. Probably also projecting because when they get together with their girlfriends they gossip, violate trust and talk shit about men’s performance, dick size etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:01 AM
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It's the idea that sex demeans women what I find problematic with them. Women have the same view of men who like dicks. Just look at the recent discussion about bisexual men. Women predominantly have a visceral reaction to men being the receptive partner, think it’s demeaning and can’t sexually respect said men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:55 AM
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FYI I hold doors for anyone. It was just an example of chivalric behavior when on a date with a woman. Maybe not the best example. A better nuance would be to open the door to a restaurant or pull out her chair, like she isn’t perfectly capable of that. Some traditional acts of service look like a butler and a queen, but women feel demeaned if any act of service is wanted from them, or more specifically if it’s an act that the man values and not some gender-neutral act she chose herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:48 AM
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The old “I blame society” excuse. I’m talking exclusively about woke women raised in a feminist society, which is all there is where I’m from. They want all the benefits and none of the responsibilities of traditional gender relations. All take and no give.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:39 AM
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Women want men to do traditional acts of service for them. Why are men not allowed to want the same? Men who grew up in feminism expected things to be different. I never understood why I had to approach and do all the work when girls/women were supposedly equal. Why should I hold doors or pick up bags for entitled “strong and independent” loudmouths? Modern women can’t stop making demands and ordering people around, and I should be the assertive one? It doesn’t make sense to the male (rational) …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:23 AM
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Take a look at the top posts on r/bisexual or search for bicycle. I fall in love with a person not their genitals I take it that you are a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:49 PM
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I was including biological men who use other pronouns when I said “people”. Lesbians and bi women can have their own parade, as they did until recently in some countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:13 PM
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You are saying this anonymously here. Most women will not want their friends to know they dumped their boyfriend because they were bigoted, so they find any other annoyance and use that as a reason why they are “incompatible”, preferrably something that makes her look like a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:05 PM
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That is why a woman will find any other reason she can choose from (she always has an assortment) and stick to that to keep her virtuous image intact.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 06:13 PM
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I've never been in a relationship with a woman and thought "I want dick." I've never been in a relationship with a man and thought "I miss a womans touch." Are you being totally honest about that? Bisexuals frequently talk about cycling between wanting one more than the other, usually what they don’t have at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 06:10 PM
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She just had a visceral reaction of disgust. That’s why I keep saying (-L)GBT people should not make friends with feminists or most women, who outwardly pretend to support them while they are truly disgusted inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 06:01 PM
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Of course, but this is just the logical conclusion of the dating preference taken to its extreme. The preference to rather stay alone than accept equality says the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 12:47 AM
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This is actually true. The numbers don’t add up. If women are 50% of people and they all match up with men who make more money, the other 50%, then financial equality isn’t possible. Their dating preferences say they don’t actually want to be financially equal with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 12:36 AM
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Whi should he give the money to instead? What is a HVW in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 06:17 PM
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Not as many as women who expect lawyers to also be carpenters and car mechanics. Just pointing out the hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 06:10 PM
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Yes, the added baggage and CC “experience” adds so many interesting things to talk about. /s A 33 year old woman might still be glued to her phone, act like the oldest teenager in the house, shop impulsively and insist on something stupid like calling her partner “daddy”. Women grow up faster than men in their teens and 20s but after that their mental development is pretty much stunted or goes downhill from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 07:18 AM
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What feminine skills do you possess? The least you could do is sew your own clothes and cook perfect dinners while he is building you a house from ground up. But no, you have “masculine-leaning hobbies” as well as a stressful career. Why should a traditionally masculine man want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 07:02 AM
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Yes, will someone think about those poor souls doing the honorable work of spreading their legs on OF, making miserable men more miserable and pathetic by having to pay for it? If porn consumption went down they’d have to go back to working in retail or take a student loan like normal people. The horror!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:16 AM
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Not yet, but have some dates lined up. Has been a slow year with the pandemic and all that. Plus talking to women on PPD makes me never want to get into a LTR again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:44 PM
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Yeah, I agree it’s hard to quit. I decided to quit masturbating however and feel much better and more motivated to seek real sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:09 PM
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One of the few times I agree with a woman on this sub. Porn use is especially bad for men. We get highly stimulated by visuals and seek out perfection there that can seldomly be matched in reality. When a man reaches orgasm he empties his vital energy and needs some time to recharge. Women, having a reactive sexuality, react to energy directed at them and charge up from it. A woman who has an active sex life wants more and more sex, and can receive multiple orgasms in one session and feel more e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:07 PM
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Your porn use might be stopping you from going out of your comfort zone and finding a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 10:54 PM
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I laughed at the picture, because I imagined the woman as the women I see all around me, who work a mediocre office job, act entitled and arrogant, can’t cook and are lazy slobs at home. If she offered traditional homemaking skills then her offer would be great, but the typical modern woman is not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 09:36 AM
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I agree with OP. I had no idea how physically attractive I was before OLD and was pleasantly surprised. But that’s only getting the foot in the door. A lot of work is required to finish the deal and get a date, which is mentally exhausting for someone who is naturally introverted and was never aware of his level of attractiveness while growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:37 AM
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Most religions involve some self-negation and altruism regardless of personal gain or loss, at least for the most devout. The religious moral teachings for the masses are pretty RP though, compared to the moral vacuum of atheist culture, because they are the only remnants of traditional morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 02:26 AM
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You’re right, we seldom talk about the AF as he gets older. Many of them are “sexy losers” and become just losers in their later years, switching places with the BB or joining their ranks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 02:18 AM
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So it’s money for a hot body. I’m trying to remember what the correct term for that is... hmm...oh yes, prostitution. Why is good old fashioned love so hard to fathom for women? Didn’t Disney teach you anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 02:04 AM
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No, the point is that “sugar mamas” don’t exist. They just up their demands as their financial situation improves, like you explained in your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:46 PM
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Well put. If women didn’t cave in to their basest urges and have their slut phase in their 20s, as has always been the requirement for women to be considered marriage material, it wouldn’t be a problem at all. She resisted her urge to be a total slut as we resisted the urge to rape and pillage, because we care about the future and making the world a fairer place. It’s a fair deal. All humans are flawed but we have a choice to control out basest nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:42 PM
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If she makes good money she can provide that. Why is it impossible to reverse the situation? It’s women who are all hyped up about their education and profession nowadays. Most men just do it out of necessity and because it’s expected. I’m not excited to provide for a woman who doesn’t need providing for. I’d much rather be chasing my real passions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:21 PM
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And if the female makes good money, why cant she want a man who makes good money too? Why can’t she not require a man who makes equal or more money? It’s so sad that it has to be transactional even when she doesn’t need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 05:51 PM
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It’s just sad that women still want to be commodity to be bought and sold, even when they have their own money and all the same rights and freedoms. Such a disappointment and fucking depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 05:47 PM
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What is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 12:34 PM
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You make it sound like men are being feminized for the benefit of women. Feminine men can easily outdo the average modern woman in femininity. They could serve as the receptive partners for masculine men in a situational homosexuality much like prison sex, in the prison world of feminists and their techno-political enablers. Sounds like a sci-fi dystopia, but with the hopelessness in the current dating landscape it’s not so far from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:43 PM
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Maybe thet aren’t, so it’s not going anywhere. OLD doesn’t work as traditional dating, where there is the chemistry of physical presence involved. I’m not thirsty enough to chat up some pictures with generic bios.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:14 AM
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Yes, or I want them to put in equal or at least some amount of effort, them being equal, “strong and independent” and all that. OLD doesn’t arouse enough interest for me to carry the whole weight of the interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 10:56 AM
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Because it’s obviously a dating/sex problem. I want the sex and possibly dating, but hate the process leading up to it, the game, how ALL women expect the man to take all the steps leading up to it. When you have talked to a large number of women you start to notice a pattern and it leaves a feeling of melancholy and apathy. Blonde or blue haired, skinny or fat, educated or not, they all have the same expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 08:38 AM
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I have hundreds of matches on OLD, but can’t get motivated/interested enough to talk to any one of them and ask her out. The more I understand women, the less I want to get to know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 08:16 AM
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No, I’m actually serious. That is the cuckold mindset, getting off on the wife being a huge slut. I believe the AF/BB strategy will have to “evolve” into that if women don’t want to abandon it altogether, now that men are increasingly aware of how they are being duped. There is such a huge gap between the lived experiences of men and women in their 30s that men are not going to cope with it unless they adapt their desires to the reality of modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 02:29 PM
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No, many women are also lukewarm about men who they supposedly want to be with, reluctantly having sex with BB schmucks, then later crying metoo because it didn’t feel right, they weren’t physically attracted and felt pressured. At least these 3 billion men would be having consensual gay sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 02:12 PM
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Yeah, embrace the great cuckening. A cuck is grateful if he gets the sloppy seconds, knowing that he’ll never live up to the standards others set before him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 02:04 PM
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I honestly believe the dating/sexual market would be better without all the women who are lukewarm about the sex appeal of men. A lot less unwanted and regretted sex would happen and women wouldn’t perceive men’s sexual advances as dangerous or potentially abusive, if they actually liked men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:16 AM
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Buy a dildo. Lesbians use strap-ons too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:41 AM
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It’s typical western megalomania to think humans can control entire ecosystems. Playing God while virtue signalling on social media how morally superior you are, as a privileged westerner. It’s the new “cultural” supremacism in disguise. Nature has a way of finding balance herself. It may very well be that removing gullible “progressives” from the gene pool has a deeper purpose in nature’s path towards equilibrium. So by all means, go childfree and adopt as many cats as you can. But don’t expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 12:26 AM
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Concerns about “overpopulation” and “climate crisis” is precisely what your overlords want you to be worried about. Swallowing hook, line and sinker the BS narratives the media feeds them and taking those narratives over their natural purpose is a big part of what makes so many modern first world women unfeminine and unattractive as long term partners. Men make a selfless sacrifice when they give up their life of freedom and commit all their time, energy and resources to one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 11:24 PM
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Why wouldn’t being CF make a man unmasculine? Maybe it does if he really wants to be CF for life, but it’s more tied to the masculine identity to seek freedom while it’s the feminine role to lure the man into commitment and family life. Also, what about women who adopt kids or take them in for foster care? What about women who are nurturing and motherly to pets or stray animals? Ok, I guess it shows a little nurturing instinct, but why would she then refuse to have her own child? Sounds like she…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 02:37 PM
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I guess childless women generally have a selfish and unfeminine aura about them. They may be a bit “like” red pilled men, but heterosexual men are generally not seeking their likeness in a sex partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 02:19 PM
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Is that what I said? It’s a long tedious process with many parts that I listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 07:24 AM
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And the other 90% You are speaking from a position of the privileged few, not normalcy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 10:48 PM
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And another way people commonly used to meet was at work or they would meet people through their coworkers or people around at after work happy hours. And so many people are working from home now and things have been shut down that has stopped being a viable option. MeToo changed that permanently before covid. Asking a coworker out is now considered harassment. If the man is a manager or someone higher up in status, which let’s face it is what women are primarily attracted to, it’s straight out …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 08:58 AM
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Yet another “just be normal LOL” post. How many of those 15 hrs do you think are wasted on OLD, browsing, swiping, sending thoughtful messages, spamming copypasta, waiting for someone to respond, having the same conversations over and over with little to no effort on the other end, until it ends with ghosting, either because she wasn’t interested or killed all interest because she had the personality of a wall? Modern dating is hard soul-crushing work for the average guy, actually the normal guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 11:24 PM
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If only. At least half of what you listed is “emotional labor” or “mental load”, which is horrible, horrible abuse of a woman and practically a crime against humanity. We’re not supposed to expect any more of a woman than to be a little less competent buddy who happens to have a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 11:14 PM
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Interesting term, decision fatique. Dating advice for men says they have to lead, ask her out, pick the place, be funny and entertaining, be decisive, escalate, lean in for the kiss etc. Men have to make decisions from A to Z while the woman sits back and either approves or says no. It’s funny that men have to make these decisions, because more often than not, women know the dating places in and out, not only because they go on more dates, but they also go to restaurants and cafes with their fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:22 PM
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Inentional or unintentional...whatever benefits the woman at the moment and makes her look virtuous. Sometimes they are adults with their own agency, most of the time they are victims of circumstances and bad bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 11:55 PM
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TIL I was alive thousands of years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 06:51 PM
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Yes, men are not happy with the changes feminism has brought. Feminism is not going to fix that. Feminism is an assault on the natural male and female roles and nature seeks balance. If you design a society that makes men feel antagonized, unappreciated and unhappy, they are going to check out of it by the droves, in some way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 06:21 PM
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Women often let themselves go when married, yet divorce is usually initiated by the woman. Sure, a woman is expected to maintain her looks somewhat, basically not becoming obese. Men are not allowed to expect any sort of performance from a modern woman. She just has to be, he has to become and keep on becoming more than he was in the beginning. It never ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 06:00 PM
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Then this doesn’t apply to you. “Just be yourself” is useless advice for men who need any kind of advice on this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 10:45 AM
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Yeah, if I want to be sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 09:11 AM
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Exactly. You have to really be on your toes once you put a ring on it, keep on pursuing her, flirting, surprising, being exciting, or else it goes downhill. A man has to be on guard with his frame 24/7, whether he is in a relationship or pursuing casual sex. If anything, casual dating is easier because you can take breaks once in a while and just relax and be yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 01:35 AM
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Romance is reserved for the BB phase. He’s so lucky to get to take her out to expensive dinners and lavish her with gifts, just to get what others got for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 01:31 AM
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All right, but that’s a bit of an outlier. If a man is running into this with multiple different women it’s probably on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:45 PM
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What you just wrote is very red pilled. Women are red pilled by default. Men have to learn it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 09:50 PM
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If you had more young girls saying it, it'd be believable, but it seems to be something women only say when they realise their 30th birthday is rapidly approaching, so it doesn't look too wise. Just look at any NSFW subreddit. It’s all “daddy” this and “daddy” that. It’s cringy and nauseating. Even older women have these issues. What’s wrong with their heads?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 09:04 PM
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Wow, you sure are red pilled for a TRP hater.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 08:56 PM
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Never needed it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 08:38 PM
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It has never happened to the women I have had sex with. Lube is just for anal, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 06:44 PM
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I think you already answered your question. He had drive and she made a good bet. If he had failed to live up to his potential they would probably be divorced. It’s not as common, especially nowadays, for women to place their bets early, but it happens and in my opinion is the ideal time to meet a real life partner. He was already in college when they met so it wasn’t that much of a risk. It’s a nice story but doesn’t disprove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:44 PM
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Absolutely none of you can prove men are into romance than woman are. Who is insisting that men are into romance? Most men are into sex with one woman who has not been the town bicycle before she met him. Regular, crazy hot or boring old sex. Sex makes men feel loved, but when women give it away easily to every “chad” it depreciates in value. Men want a long term relationship with a woman who places value on sex and does it to express love. No one said anything about flowers and candle lights. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:21 AM
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And it’s an excellent observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 08:29 PM
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I think she did just do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 06:44 PM
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So, you essentially agree with my last statement and see moral men as “manchildren”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 06:37 PM
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Bullies don’t stop being bullies in high school. If they are not complete losers they continue to be bullies in high positions. They are at the top of the pecking order and women love it, regardless of morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 08:30 AM
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Never commit to a woman unless she shows that she won't just jump ship when you're struggling. = Never commit to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 12:27 AM
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OR is "Nice Guys Finish Last" all about sex, which I suspect is what it indirectly mean. Where the assholes are "winning" because they get the most sex partners and a normal guy having a loving girlfriend is "losing" because only one woman likes him. Of course it’s about sex. Everything is about sex, except sex, which is about power. The “normal guy” is not losing because only one woman likes him. If she is the only woman that likes him then she won’t be staying long. Also, women are horrible at…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 12:15 AM
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Nah, men are so used to flaky thots on OLD that they instantly forget about the one that didn’t message back and move over to the next. The old “playing hard to get” schtick doesn’t translate well over to today’s online dating environment. I only pursue women who reciprocate interest quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 11:54 PM
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Sure, he can have them on rotation for every day of the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:58 AM
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Seems you are looking for excuses to ride the CC. That’s what is expected of atheist women who abhor traditional morality. You don’t need our permission. Jump on the carousel, I’m sure you’ll like it and find lots of men with a similar moral outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:53 AM
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Very few men are “man whores” so that seems to be the demographic you are primarily going for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:49 AM
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Really beautiful women are just as beautiful without makeup. Average or above should theoretically be just as pretty without makeup, but then they skip makeup and you realize their skin is really bad because they have been covering it in chemicals and hiding from the sun for years or decades. Maybe they should have never started to wear makeup, or only do it a few times a year. It’s a big scam industry, making women think they have to paint over their face to be presentable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:12 AM
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The entire reason why Nice GuysTM exist is because they are projecting how they would like women to treat them. Most men are starving for someone for once being nice to them. If he doesn’t return the favour or treats her like she’s below him there is probably another reason for that, for example her looks or social class.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 09:21 PM
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But what if a woman has her eye on a man, let’s say in a bar, but he doesn’t even know she exists because he’s talking to his friends, is nearsighted, a little introverted or whatever. Should she wait for someone more bold and thirsty and pick from the ones that approach her, or should she walk up to the man she really wants and say hi? He either 1) says hi and continues what he was doing before or 2) notices how attractive she is and proceeds to actively pursue her. Of course there is a chance …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 08:57 PM
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Because they are [l]ow maintenance" and their boyfriends are only with them to brag about how much she did for him, and how much she wants him. Then she boosts his ego for the next woman. Honestly this has a grain of truth to it. But it’s not dependent on who asks who out first. It happens if he perceives her as below him. Might as well be him who initiates and asks her out on OLD, but then she looks nothing like her photos and they both know she’s more desperate. He proceeds to fuck her anyway …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 08:34 PM
1

Cuckolding solves this dual mating dilemma.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 01:48 PM
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Not if she wants to be a mother and housewife first, and doesn’t put her career on the top of her list of priorities. It’s women that focus most on their career and even want to be child free, but still have this requirement, that make us question their morality. So many modern women are just selfish hedonists and want a man to support their luxurious lifestyle. When it’s about securing a good life for her children then it has a completely different connotation and is admirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 12:17 PM
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Sounds like you are talking to guys who think you’re good (looking) enough for sex but not good enough for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 12:33 AM
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Haven’t wanked in months but thanks for the concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:25 PM
1

Do you TELL these women before getting physical that your attraction only extends to the bedroom and nothing more is on the cards -BEFORE? Now why should a man sabotage his own luck by doing that? The rest of your comment is on point. Women should vet out the fuckboys and “chads” by making them wait, because they’re too delusional to recognize by instinct which ones are in their league and will stick around. Men should also stop dumpster diving. It’s weak AF and shows little self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:56 PM
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Men wife up the best they can get. Women hook up with the best they can get, never to see him again and are forever alpha widowed. Nobody wants to be second after the one that got away.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:46 PM
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How about starting with pulling your head out of your arse and realizing there is nothing uniquely American about this? It’s the same all over the developed world. This sub reminds me of Jaywalking sometimes, when Jay Leno would send people out on the streets to interview people and show how little they knew outside of their own navel. It’s a big world. Hypergamy is universal. Tinder is everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:34 PM
1

A big dick isn’t enough to make a woman cum. Not on its own, but makes a big difference. Your vagina doesn’t get loose over time anymore than a penis becomes shorter from going into vaginas over time. I was wondering if women thought that. Women who do regular stretching with big dicks or objects get loose temporarily, but it contracts back if she’s healthy. Anuses can get permanently damaged though. The clit is the most important part of making a woman cum. Yes, but it’s not the only part. Wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:21 PM
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And you speak for all women? The clit is stimulated as well when the bodies rub together. Even men can get an orgasm from anal sex only with no penis stimulation. Are you saying women’s bodies are built to not derive pleasure from the most natural sexual act?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:46 AM
1

Yes, they have to have a big butt to be considered attractive by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:26 AM
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Not dating anyone, but I like chubby or even fat women if the fat is distributed right, in the butt and thighs and not all in the belly. It’s completely natural for women to have a higher fat percentage than men, and I question the heterosexuality of grownup men who prefer skinny women with flat butts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 12:23 AM
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I’m talking from personal experience, of course with some clitoral stimulation too. But I have seen a woman come just by riding a dildo, after getting aroused enough by other means. She has no reason to lie about a dildo giving her a faster orgasm than a real dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 12:11 AM
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Which is stupid, because a dildo will stay hard no matter what and make a woman cum faster than she’d imagined. Maybe they are concerned that it will make them loose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 12:05 AM
-1

Why would someone pay to ask strippers questions about their vapid lives? I can’t even be bothered to ask attractive matches on tinder about their lives. Couldn’t care less if they prefer pizza or taco or which rock they climbed last week.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 12:02 AM
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I’m sorry you have never had a big enough dick. Why would women buy dildos if they don’t enjoy being penetrated? You might be generalizing too much from your own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 11:54 PM
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If women don’t have sex because they enjoy it, men have no reason at all to pursue women for relationships. Why not be honest about it being tedious labor and name the price and subscription model? Men would be a little heartbroken for a while, but then feel a giant relief to never have to put up with the boatloads of crap women give them in the process leading up to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 11:29 PM
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I call BS on that too. Which gender made a shitty Twilight fanfic a no. 1 bestseller in all book stores, just because it featured an abusive asshole who was fixated on pain and anal beads?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 11:08 PM
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They don’t? I’ve heard too many women talk more fondly of their dildo/vibrator than their partner to buy this particular women-are-wonderful trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 10:52 PM
1

Wow, women are strange. Is it because of his height or preselection? His (delusional) confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:59 AM
1

I was not raised Catholic but I recognize it as one of the “love languages”. Are these expressions of love supposed to one sided, without any reciprocity? You just silently accept the act of service and go about your day? Our wonderful women of PPD have argued very convincingly that their love is always transactional, expecting something in return, such as steaming hot sex (AF) or provision (BB). Are you arguing against that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 02:00 AM
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Are you a mother yourself? Sure the miracle of birth and motherhood is admirable, but the modern woman hardly misses a day from work until after the birth, and tries to get back to it as soon as possible, because that’s where her priorities are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 01:43 AM
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Yeah but are you really "providing" when she's bringing in solid amount of the household wealth? I don’t really care about that. I would still have to work harder and push myself to be more ambitious than I really want to on my own. Even if you make more, if she's pulling in 40% and you're doing 60%, she's still the one birthing and breastfeeding, not you. Yes, for a few months. She would probably start working from home in the first month. What does becoming mlre masculine mean in this context?…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 01:24 AM
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Any modern Western woman. I don’t want to work my ass off to provide for some slightly less successful mirror image of myself. A woman who wants a traditional man should provide traditional feminine virtues, often the exact opposite but complimentary to what the man provides. I don’t even want that myself. I’m just illustrating how women’s demands are ridiculous, especially when they increase the demands in direct proportion to their becoming more masculine and thus less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 01:02 AM
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She is NOT traditional but she WANTS men to be traditional. She’s a hypocrite who has abandoned traditional femininity but expects traditional masculinity. How hard can it be to get this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:53 AM
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I'm not performing an act of service when I do my job for the money we agreed I would get paid. Yes you are. That’s literally what these words mean, assuming that your work (act/action) provides some valuable service that someone is willing to pay for. Charity is feeding the starving, giving shelter to the homeless, doing the charitable thing in face of adversity and receiving nothing but more adversity and even humiliation for it. Are you suggesting that men should approach relationships with w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:26 AM
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Modern women do not adhere to traditional femininity but want men to be traditional and provide them with everything their grandmothers, who were traditional, were provided with. Except modern women are more masculine and more ambitious, so men have to ramp up everything to ridiculous heights, with diminishing returns. Why should we do it? What’s the incentive?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:13 AM
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But here's the thing, I also would never give the time of day to a misogynist or a deadbeat. What would men like that add to my life? I can understand that. I say the same for feminists, careerists and other non-traditional women, because they still want someone higher up the ladder without providing anything in return but their pussy and obnoxious, entitled personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 11:51 PM
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Act of service is not the same as charity. In any economy people exchange service for service or a symbolic token of it (money). Are you suggesting men should be emulating the life of Christ and die on a cross for the sake of women’s selfish wants? You people are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 11:42 PM
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Are you even answering me? Not my quote. Implication is there are other women who don't expect providers, but men don't want them. Where are these women? Even women seeking submissive men want them to be otherwise traditional and successful in life and work. This is just women evading the question. “Oh certainly not me, but there must be some other woman who doesn’t want a high status provider”. This is related to “You’re so nice, like a brother to me. You’ll be a great catch for some other woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 11:38 PM
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Who said it was a charity, other than you? Women are guaranteed provision and life insurance, men are not guaranteed anything of value. Familiarity breeds resentment, sex dries up, he loses his independence and freedom, she undermines his friendships. Marriage is a lose lose deal for the man in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 11:27 PM
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No, non-traditional women want men to stay traditional. It doesn’t work that way. If you disrupt one polarity of a system the other polarity will adapt into something completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 11:20 PM
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Are women less fortunate? No, they’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 11:17 PM
3

Thought experiment: What if you took every instance when a woman says she “likes” something about a man and replace it with “doesn’t like”, and vice versa? Which one would be closer to the unfiltered truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 11:01 PM
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Hypergamy, whether they act on it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 01:21 PM
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Yeah, being a bullying asshole sure impresses the girls. But doing it under the surface of being a charismatic do-gooder is even better, because then the women can plausibly deny that they like him for being an asshole and say that he’s just such a nice funny guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 09:14 AM
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It’s actually the other way around, women want men who are higher on the socioeconomic ladder. A man just wants a woman who is attracted to him. Same reason why men go for smaller women, because they know women have this weird thing for height. It’s women’s preferences that are more rigid and universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:25 PM
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He’s just a bully, but he does it in a sneaky cowardly way, with plausible deniability and non-confrontationally, because he’s a physically weak (despite his height) weasel.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:07 PM
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This is just a rationalization. It feels better for you to think there is something wrong with him than to consider that he didn’t think you were good enough for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:18 AM
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But he doesn’t hold self-paralyzing fatalistic beliefs about looks/genetics being everything. In fact, he thinks he’s the best, because of his farmer skills or machiavellian scheming or whatever. He is confident and oblivious as to how he comes across to other people. Maybe he’s just an unclassifiable weirdo, but I agree that he’s closer to TRP than TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:56 AM
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What makes you think league has anything to do with socioeconomic status? Is she pretty? Is she supportive and aggreeable? Is she good with kids? That’s the kind of things most men value in a long term partner. A less career oriented woman is more likely to care about a man’s success and be a good housewife and mother, given that she is also relationship oriented and not promiscuous. Career women compete with men, have feminist grievances and are more likely to have lived a Sex and the City life…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:29 AM
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Dwight is an aspie dork, an incel type, not TRP, at least not in the original sense of knowing how to get laid. Jim is a high functioning blue pilled beta. He’s kind of an asshole, but hides his dark triad traits behind sarcastic and passive aggressive remarks, all the while keeping up a virtuous facade, because he’a a wimp.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:19 AM
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Yes, single men don’t have as much sex with as many partners as single women. That’s why they put up with all the hassle of a relationship and jump through whatever stupid hoops that are in vogue. To get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:37 PM
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It’s not like that for most men, especially men who seek long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:28 PM
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Imagine a world controlled by women. It would be something akin to Brave New World at best, at worst ... I’m sure you can think of something. The GBT part of LGBT are very mistaken if they think they have an ally in feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 06:07 PM
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That’s just average. Bare minimum. The bar is too low.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:23 PM
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But but, the cost of makeup and skin care! Women have it so hard. It’s really difficult and expensive to not be obese and disease-ridden, so it makes perfect sense that men should always pay on dates./s I know, getting strong and ripped is fucking hard, time consuming and expensive, since time is money. Healthy food and food supplements are also expensive. Women don’t know how much effort goes into trying to look like these self abused film stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:59 AM
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Your loathsome apathy disgusts me and I’m not going to waste more time talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:17 AM
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Your opinion on any issue not directly affecting you and your close friends and family has no validity. You already said you don’t care about your neighbors so I don’t see why a randomly chosen geographical location makes any difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:02 AM
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It was a rhetorical question. You seem to take pride in your solipsism and lack of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:51 AM
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This happens in the majority of heterosexual relationships. Every man can nod their head and relate to this situation. It’s considered normal for women to commit emotional violence on men and nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:48 AM
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What about starving children in Africa? Don’t know, don’t care? You know there is a name for your outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:44 AM
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Yeah, makes sense. You didn’t know these people personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:41 AM
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Yeah, we don’t know what happened in that Weinstein hotel room. Why did these women have to drag the media into this and command our attention on their personal issues with this man? Couldn’t they just deal with it themselves? We don’t even know them. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:34 AM
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The hamster is strong. I applaud you for managing to turn logic on its head and shift the blame to men on this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:16 AM
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Yet women still require men to earn more than them and say “the bar is low” if they don’t magically possess the gendered skills of the silent generation, while rejecting any requirements for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:06 AM
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They don’t want to reward it. They want to weed out the weak and undesirable men so they can avoid them. Women can offer no help on this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:03 AM
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Yeah, feminists want to take weak and vulnerable men and make them even weaker. “Talk about your feelings”, “It’s ok to cry”, “Now wear lipstick”... The entire “help” that feminists offer to men, and also their support for lgbt issues, exists to weed undesirable men out of the dating pool and push them to the brink.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:43 AM
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Yep, double standard is an understatement. Somehow it’s always men’s fault, because women are wonderful and can do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:00 PM
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Yes, I buy takeaway sometimes when I’m too lazy or hungry to cook. I don’t repair the car, but of course basic maintenance and cleaning. If modern women would have kept their part of the deal maybe I would have bothered to learn more of these things. But they think they are entitled to go “the bar is too low” when all they do is show up and do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:09 PM
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Oh I forgot you have slaves to do the dirty work for you. I clean my “shit” and do everything around the house and don’t remember having ever received any praise for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:56 PM
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I don’t know any woman under 60 who can cook a decent meal. Your description sounds like an episode of Everybody Loves Raymond. Just old boomer cliches. Maybe you are more tradcon than you think you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:49 PM
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For example household maintenance. There’s a lot of tasks included under thar umbrella. There used to be a division of labor, where men took care of the car, the construction maintenance of the house, roof, plumbing, the lawn etc. Now they are expected to also cook and clean at least equally if not exclusively. Have women taken equal share in the household duties of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:44 PM
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Women were also held to expectations. It was a mutual deal. Feminism broke the social contract of gender relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:38 PM
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That’s a lot of equals and a lot of added responsibilities for men. What do men get out of following this script? Oh yeah, women opted out of all duties that used to belong to women. When did men sign up for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:28 PM
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We’re not more successful, just older. A young man doing good in college is going to be successful one day. His age match is just too greedy and lazy to wait for it and wants to go straight to the finishing line.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:15 PM
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I can’t relate to any of this. Sounds like the West about 30 years ago. You’re in Russia, right? Most men go though their life without a single praise or compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:07 PM
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Yes, I’ve experienced both, and the sex without long term commitment is actually more meaningful because she’s driven by her lust, not duty. Any unenthusiastic wife (given she’s not hideous), who’s had headaches for weeks to stave off her husband’s advancements, could go out on any given night and find a stranger to have more enthusiastic and meaningful sex with. That lingering fear that DB-ed husbands have is actually true. She could go on Tinder and instantly find men she would rather have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:17 PM
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I don’t know about other men, but I don’t care about things more than just enough to get by. The emphasis that women of my generation and younger put on career is beyond me. If I had the chance to marry a partner who could be the sole breadwinner (and she wasn’t sexually repulsed by the idea) I’d become a house-husband in a heartbeat. The whole rat race is pointless if men don’t get sexually rewarded for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:55 PM
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Yeah, the more I hear about women’s ideas about love and sex, the more convinced I am that they are unable to love in any meaningful way and see sex as just another meaningless physical activity. They make gullible men jump through endless hoops to get sex, all the while throwing shit tests at them left and right. They are constantly removing any duties that women used to have without replacing it with anything, while adding to men’s. Most recently being an emotional support and confidant is too…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:47 PM
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Nothing is stopping men from doing sex work, either. Nothing but dignity and self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:03 PM
1

So are men, average or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 12:58 PM
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That’s your 80/20 bias. You actually rate above average men as average.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 07:26 AM
4

So you’re now disagreeing with your previous comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 07:25 AM
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So you can become her beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 07:22 AM
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These women I’m talking about are often going through college/university and doing “sex work” as a side hustle. They have the same opportunities as young men in the same situation, but because they are greedy for luxurious things and too lazy to work for it they take the shortcut, dragging their family’s reputation through the mud instead of being grateful for their privileged position.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 10:40 PM
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These men don’t have much of a choice, do they? But if you don’t see the difference, that’s just testament to how desensitized people have become to the, dare I say, objectification of the most sacred. Fuck, I’m starting to sound like a radfem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 08:01 PM
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It was a hyperbole. It’s being normalized and normal girls from good homes are going into it. It’s ever more likely that I know someone whose daughter is a cam whore. It’s just sad that young women are so selfish, lazy and ungrateful for the opportunities they have been given. I have no resentment towards actual pornstars of yesterday, who found a way out of poverty, often from poor countries formerly in the Soviet Union, to raise their living standard through this dangerous route. They were act…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:49 PM
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So being okay with something means you're also participating? No, but it increases its occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:32 PM
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So you’re all for people being whores. But your issue is the generalization? That’s what I mean by normalization. Everyone and their grandmother is an OF cam whore nowadays, because it’s being normalized. Have you seen a normal curve? When it becomes completely normal that means 95% of people are ok with their daughter or sister being a whore. Now why are you offended by your quoted statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:14 PM
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The normalization of middle class women having a career in porn (OF) and prostitution (sugar dating) in the present time is not exactly helping your case. Someone posted here recently about all relationships essentially being a sex for money business agreement, and no woman protested it. If women don’t want to be seen as whores, stop acting like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:07 PM
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I’m aware that you don’t really care about morals, but it’s about the image.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 06:47 PM
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It means that women will rationalize whatever to appear virtuous. They don’t want to be seen as shallow, egotistic and materialistic. Men are interested in the raw lust that happens before the rationalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 06:43 PM
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Women’s minds usually don’t agree with their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 06:13 PM
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Yes, as everyone should know, women stop having sex as soon as they get married. It’s very common for the bride’s family to pool together and buy the groom an advanced sex doll as a wedding gift, in an effort to make up for his loss. He is usually oblivious about what he has been set up for, and shocked when he opens the gift, but learns to appreciate it a few weeks into the marriage. Wtf is this? Is it purge week yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 06:05 PM
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Exactly. AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:25 PM
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So the government decides who gets to have sex? This idea has had several proponents in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:49 PM
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Well, OP talks about the dreaded Patriarchy and experiences microaggressions in everyday interactions with men, although she didn’t use exactly that word. Feminism has cultural hegemony in all Western cultures, so women pay lip service to the ruling class and repeat what they were tought in universities. I think I know the kind of feminists you are talking about. They are not all as devoted to the cause as they pretend to be. I see you are in Australia. I like Australians. They have a Western cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:17 PM
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I see this more as a campaign to make people more informed about exactly what products they are buying and selling and the different value of those products. Women think their SMV gives them higher RMV, when in fact continued exposure to the SMP decreases their RMV. It’s about making both buyers and sellers aware of what the products are and how those two products are causally related but not interchangable, i.e. casual sex and relationships. The laws of supply and demand apply to these markets …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:49 PM
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Manspreading is this century’s bra burning. It’s almost as if they are testing how much bullshit society will tolerate before it puts its foot down. Feminism is a shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:32 PM
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Yes, I’m aware these women hardly exist in the present time. That’s why my initial advice was to stop bitching and take it like a man. But she implied she had a traditional upbringing, more so than me, so maybe the other route is possible for her. She can’t both be an angry woke feminist and expect special delicate flower treatment. That treatment belongs to another era and secluded religious communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 12:19 PM
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That’s what men find attractive in women, apart from looks. That’s why Nice Guys do what they do, misdirected as they are, because they assume women are attracted to the same things they are attracted to. Women have been doing a similar projection for the last 30+ years, being “badass”, sarcastic, “one of the guys”, for the same reason. A strong and independent woman doesn’t inspire men’s protective instinct. They assume she’s practically a man so she gets the same treatment. She can protect her…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 12:01 PM
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Sounds more like he abandoned the mother who wanted to kill the child before it was born. I don’t have time for an abortion debate. It never leads anywhere. Different moral foundations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 10:34 AM
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There are some excellent examples in the answers to this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/mt3h79/what_are_things_men_find_attractive/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:52 AM
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Well, not being killed is kind of necessary for existence. Taking a life is a lot worse than trusting someone else to care for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:08 AM
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I see you’re assuming the worst of the mother. More likely she just didn’t want it because of selfish reasons such as prolonging her party years or travelling around the world, not because she was in such a bad place that she couldn’t afford formula.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:59 AM
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Assuming she’s not a homeless meth addict, I don’t think starvation is a problem people in developed countries face. If her situation is so bad, adoption is also an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:45 AM
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No. I don’t know anyone who goes to church except for weddings and funerals etc. I wish I had a traditional background to fall back on, like you apparently do. The West is fucked without any religious and moral direction. Alternative spirituality might lead some to the same source, but this “anything goes” morality has to go. People care more about some CGI turtles in the sea than their fellow humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:36 AM
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That’s not how the story was.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:28 AM
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That man saved a baby’s life while the mother wanted to kill it. And he’s the bad guy? What a fucked up world we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:19 AM
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Well, I don’t know that because I’ve never seen a woman like that. Where I’m from they’re all promiscuous and repeat those same misandrist talking points they get spoon-fed from the media and educational institutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 02:19 AM
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If you refuse to play your part as a woman you won’t see the best of the male part. With your rhetoric you have already reduced your dating pool to male feminists, which might pay lip service to your talking points, but are weak, passive-aggressive, potentially violent bitch-boys who are out of touch with their masculine core and with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 11:40 PM
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Women hate male only spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 09:40 PM
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it feels like the opposite should be true. It is, but women won’t allow it, in the name of equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 09:04 PM
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I’m also fine not being around women. I’m not entirely sure mixed gender workplaces are a good idea, for example. As soon as a woman arrives the men become more hostile towards one another and less cooperative, in an effort to establish a hierarchy in front of the woman. The nagging, backstabbing and sucking up to superiors is also not conducive to good team morale.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 08:49 PM
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Then why do you expect men to treat you differently than they treat other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 08:38 PM
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Show some respect. You should show some gratefulness for the fact that men decided at some point that you were able to partake in this society they created as responsible adults, as equals, as opposed to being coddled like children, which is what you seem to be advocating for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 08:26 PM
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The first is mean, as in putting each other down to form a dominance hierarchy and impress women. The second is harsh, as in telling the truth with radical honesty. Men invented democracy and equal rights. Women’s groups usually have one dominant woman who dictates all decision making, while pretending there is a concensus. That’s your “patriarchy”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 07:58 PM
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TRP deals with women as they are, with no filters or restrictions from culture. At this basic level, women are the same everywhere and always have been. Hypergamy is even more true in more traditional cultures, they need to maximize on the best status and security provider but get it right on first try, because no one wants a divorcee in those cultures. Anyone who’s ever lived with a woman gets an occasional glimpse “under the hood”, even though her upbringing has trained her to restrict her sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:33 PM
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Yes, I agree on that too. How many yoga instructors, beauticians or professional travellers does the world really need? They are flooded with messages anyway, so they put zero effort into making the conversation interesting. I think they are mistaken in translating the “rules” of traditional dating to the OLD platform, where men are supposed to make all the moves from A to Z. Missing the physical presence, chemistry, kinetics, pheromones etc. there is a lot less to build on to ignite enough attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 01:23 PM
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Interesting perspective. Have you ever stopped to wonder why men have this harsh or mean communication style? How do women generally treat nice guys? Men are usually not as mean to each other when there is no woman around. What you perceive as harsh, men perceive as honesty and integrity, and it’s generally more helpful to the fellow man than empty platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 10:37 AM
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Reality isn’t a narrative. Narratives are unrealities that powerful people in business, media and academia try to force on the world. Reality is harsh and not widely accepted in the real world. Thankfully we can shed all the BS narratives on PPD. I upvoted your first comment BTW. Interesting perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 10:19 AM
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A lot of women don’t know how to present themselves either. Or men are so thirsty that they can allow themselves to be careless. Countless profiles have drunk photos, crappy snapchat filters, photos of things or nature instead of her, group photos where the prettiest one is not her, grimacing photos, bios stating obnoxious views, feminist slogans, junk food prefereces, WAATGM etc. Then there are these scary faceapp-modified humanoids who all look the same. WTF is that? Bots or foreign spies? Bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 10:11 AM
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I really wish you were right, and being raised in egalitarian dogma I always assumed that’s how it is, but I have yet to see it in real life. Women desperately seek external causes and solutions to their problems before taking individual responsibility. Their own actions are always someone else’s fault. I just figured, maybe they’re right, maybe expecting them to have their own agency and responsibility is too much to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 03:02 PM
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To continue with the water analogy, water can take many shapes but someone has to create the vessel for it to flow into. Men change the paradigm and women follow. The current iteration of women’s solipsism is only because men enabled it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:43 PM
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Violence is always wrong and women should receive that memo too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:33 PM
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Only men are able to change by their own willpower. Women are a force of nature. Water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:15 AM
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If by quality you mean he has equal or more “dolla bills” then he doesn’t need what you’re offering.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:02 AM
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Yes, and misogynist at the same time. If this is true then all men and women who pursue sex and relationships are nothing more than glorified johns and whores. The difference lies only in the price and subscription model.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:37 AM
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Yes, of course. I wasn’t in a relationship when traumatic events happened first, but it didn’t affect my libido. I became completely disillusioned with marriage after the divorce, and frankly relationships as we have been taught they should be. Everyone I see who is in a LTR is on a downward spiral.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 01:36 PM
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Frequent ant eater here has it all figured out. Who needs discussion and human empathy when you can form an opinion on someone by reading a username?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 08:46 AM
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Unfortunately the marriage contract doesn’t state anything about sex. Most women view it only as insurance, so she can get half his money at divorce or all at death. It doesn’t promise anything for the man, unless she is more well off financially, which is rarely the case. But I wish you all the best and hope your situation gets better. Hang in there. This will pass and she will get closer to her normal state. The burden of child birth is on women, but men are tested and expected to have superhu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 08:08 AM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 07:39 AM
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Yes, as a matter of fact. More than once. Divorce is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 01:41 AM
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You apply red pill artistry to get her on the hook, then enter a relationship, try to keep up appearances but slowly the mask peels off with her constant subconscious tests, familiarity breeds resentment, but you get married and have a kid anyway, obligations and stress breeds even more resentment, boom, you have a dead beadroom. Rinse, repeat, get back to the gym and start over again, or not and GYOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 01:38 AM
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Yes. Seems like sex with someone you know well and supposedly love is less desirable than sex with a complete stranger, when you are in a commited relationship. Most women of childbearing age today have had casual sex at some point, yet can’t muster up the will to have sex with their devoted husband. They have disproved the antiquated theory of need-for-romance with their previous lifestyle. The hard truth is that some random guy at a bar is more desirable at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 01:29 AM
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How come so many women have no problem having NSA sex with complete strangers then? Many women also have problems differentiating between the qualities of a male human being and a vibrating plastic stick, often stating that they prefer the stick to “get off”. Something about this romance-as-a-prerequisite-for-sex argument sounds fishy and anachronistic. The uncomfortable truth is probably more painful, that many women are just not that into their SO or not really into monogamy, but stick with it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 01:16 AM
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I think hypergamy is latent with all women, given the opportunity. Some aspects of TRP pickup artistry work better on attractive women however, such as negging, assuming the sale or being the prize. They are so used to being put on a pedestal and getting compliments, that the opposite poses a challenge and reverses their usual power dynamic, causing tingles. Less attractive women are so starved for attention and have less confidence, so simple TBP compliments will work just fine. If they have be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:03 AM
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Masturbation is no solution for a man. He craves this intimacy and expression of love with his wife. I’d say stop masturbating altogether. If possible, stop watching porn too. See if this hypothetical man notices a change in his relationship with his wife and her desire towards him. His “needs” might also change, perversions dissolve, and become more in tune with what nature intended. If that doesn’t work, go to a couples therapist before it’s too late. If that doesn’t work, divorce. This is no …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:44 AM
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They never had enthusiastic sex partners Not true. Marriage is the biggest ladyboner killer. Pro tip to men: Don’t get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 01:56 AM
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A woman demands expensive things that a man would never see the need for when living alone. Also, her money is her money and his money is their money. If she has more money to spend she will simply buy the more expensive brand of everything, shoes and handbags for the price of a car etc. All in all, it’s more expensive to live with a woman no matter how much she earns herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:55 PM
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It was intended for SabahRub, not your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 03:25 PM
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You’re going to be annoyed at your partner for not being horny 24/7 because some sexless guy on Reddit was whining? The poor guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 07:21 AM
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Most of the red and purple pilled men on this forum would not be able to express their opinions without anonymity, because of the shaming tactics and cancel culture used by mainstream society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 11:50 PM
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I mentioned three examples. People are publicly shamed for environmental and disease control wrongdoings. I’m not going into specifics but I believe it’s similar in all Western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:11 PM
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I don’t know. Are you on Facebook? People are bullied online for “incorrect” behavior all the time, sanctioned by the media and authorities when it’s on the “right” side of correct opinion. It’s the exact same behavior as angry church going mobs in previous times, just a different cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:08 PM
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People feel guilty because there is a risk of being publicly shamed. In today’s world we don’t have much shaming for sexual behaviors, but have lots of shaming and self-flagellation for using carbon fuels, throwing away plastics and most recently not displaying enough blind compliance with authorities in regards to the corona virus. There’s plenty of shaming around and it seems to be working fine. We just have a new secular Church behind most of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:01 PM
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Because the 8/10 man doesn’t want to be seen with her in public, but he might accept if she offers him an easy Netflix&Chill “date”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 12:47 PM
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This protective nature would be spot on if women actually played their part as women. But now they expect us to be hardwired to want to protect someone who comes off as hostile, strong and independent etc. Doesn’t work that way. Men adapt to nature/women as it changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 08:18 AM
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Oh I’m so funny. Femdom is taboo and therefore sexy for male chauvinists, just as The Patriarchy gets feminist panties wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 12:05 PM
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If you’re comfortable with yourself but no one seems to agree with you, you’re delusional. I already included that option.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:52 AM
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Saying that you like confidence is a “polite” way of saying that you like powerful and preselected men. Confidence is a product of previous success, not a feature that anyone is born with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:04 AM
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Developing a cuckold fetish is the only logical way to deal with the reality of modern women, if you don’t have a history of casual sex yourself. In the 30+ age range, they all have a history of casual sex and most have high numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:23 AM
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Confidence doesn’t grow on trees. It’s either created and reinforced by prior success or it’s delusional. They way women treat average guys is not conducive to building up confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:13 AM
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It’s hard for a normal man to keep up with the n-counts of the average woman nowadays. Their lifestyle has made them incompatible with the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 06:55 AM
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But, but...your pictures look like a femdom dream come true 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:00 PM
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She could: 1) Be open about being the kind of woman who has sex on the first date. If he likes it, cool. If he doesn’t, so be it. No deception. 2) Turn her life around completely and repent her former lifestyle, recognize it as wrong and ask God for forgiveness and strength to resist temptation. This way she can reinvent herself as someone else completely. Sort of like a recovering alcoholic. 3) Leave the guy alone if he has only been in monogamous relationships and wants only that. Promiscuous …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 05:11 PM
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Pretending to not be “that kind of woman” who has sex on the first date, when she has done that multiple times before and would do it again with someone else. Women like that are deceiving and not worth the time or effort they demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 08:03 AM
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Likewise, the hypothetical woman shouldn’t degrade the poor guy by lying and deceiving about her sociosexual character, or make him feel like he owes her the chaste lady treatment when that’s clearly not who she is. The point I’m trying to get across is that actions have consequences and reflect on the character of the actor. Modern women have been told their whole life that this is not so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 01:11 AM
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She may want that, but a man can also choose to not see her as relationship material. She may want to eat a cake and have it too, but it isn’t really possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:23 AM
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How about not having many sexual partners so they don’t have to lie and deceive? Just own who you are but don’t expect to be treated like someone else entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 11:06 PM
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9 is very low where I’m from. I wouldn’t call her a slut either. I’m specifically not talking about myself. I like sluts. I’m talking about all the other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:22 PM
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I wouldn't have sex with a man who thinks women who have a big libido are sluts in the first place. Slut word bad. Big libido woman good. To be fair and exact, I do not think having a big libido equals promiscuity, but that’s what’s often inferred by the word slut. Nothing wrong with being highly sexual with one person (or many), but most men don’t want a relationship with a promiscuous woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:03 PM
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You can’t change the way men think about promiscuous women by outlawing certain words. Do I need to explain this in simpler terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:51 PM
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Big-libido-woman, for example. Whatever you want to call it. The meaning stays the same. Men’s preferences are not going away even if you build safe spaces where they can’t be talked about. Just furthers the divide between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:44 PM
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Ok, you do you. We can invent a new word and the same meaning transfers to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:34 PM
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Did you read what I wrote? I think it’s safer to assume that all women are sluts/promiscuous/whatever you want to call it, unless they have been living under a rock or in a monastery. When did I talk about myself? Most women I go on a date with want to have sex on the first date, but I’ve stopped asking women out for the time being.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:27 PM
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Yes, it’s better and more statistically correct to assume that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 12:49 PM
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I don't do this, however I've spoken to plenty men who say things like they'd never get serious with a woman who gave it up on the first date. They can't respect her because she's just a slut etc. Do you think he sees her any differently when he finds out she did that with others and not him? That just adds insult to injury. Plus she’s not only a slut but a liar and manipulator too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 12:09 PM
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If you spent $250 on a first date with some other chick, does that mean I’m entitled to a $250 first date as well? Interesting question. How would you feel if you heard from friends that a guy usually spends at least $250 on a first date but then he asks you out to McDonald’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 11:59 AM
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Yes, it’s easy to upgrade if she turns out to be the full package. Women are dishing out sex easily so that should be a minimum requirement just to get her foot in the door, but men should evaluate carefully before giving relationship commitment. Now if women were consistently guarding sex and requiring commitment before, that would be a whole different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 11:51 AM
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Wrong. Men treat these women worse because they always considered them below them or the sex made them sure about that. If the sex is great and she’s also worthy of his time and presentable to his friends, parents etc. he’s hit the jackpot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:27 AM
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So you not only punish him by making him wait for sex but also deceive him about your past. Now why would anyone want to be a “full package guy” and get this awful treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:52 AM
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She’ll become greedy and have sex only with the men out of her league. That’s the whole point of 80/20. 80% are left out with nothing but a growing bitterness, yet should be ready for her when she’s no longer good enough for the 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:16 PM
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Personal experience. And yes, all religious traditions have emphasized the importance of either celibacy or monogamy, which often becomes a sort of celibacy with time. Contrary to women, men don’t usually talk about their masturbation practices, but there is a reason why the derogatory term ‘wanker’ exists. One of the benefits of marriage used to be that men could direct their energies to higher pursuits than chasing pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 11:57 AM
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Masturbation is bad for men, with or without porn. Leaves a feeling of emptiness and listlessness, depletes libido, creativity, spirituality, empathy and the lust for life. This has been known for thousands of years, but our modern secular culture decided to throw this timeless wisdom out the window along with religion. Women seem to be empowered by masturbation. Men just become as empty as their balls. Actual sex doesn’t have the same effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 09:30 AM
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See that microphone logo? ☝️That’s OP
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 08:13 AM
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I don’t know. It’s a fixation some men have. Personally I have zero attraction to skinny women with no fat on their body. Same goes for women with all the fat stored on the belly and thin legs and ass. Well distributed fat in the hips, thighs and breasts is the ideal feminine IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:52 AM
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Stop shaming virgins, normalize male masturbation and sex toys. So your solution is for a large part of the male population to give up all hope of ever having sex? How very feminine an advice. Masturbation is the biggest enemy of men’s success in sex and life in general. It works entirely different on men than with women. On the contrary, men should be made aware of the detrimental effects of porn and masturbation, but you don’t want men to succeed, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:24 AM
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So, if a woman wants as much sex as the average man... If a woman wants as much sex as the average man is having, she’ll have next to none. Top 20% is not average.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:12 AM
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This HVM of yours exists in your imagination only.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:18 AM
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It’s not love if it’s transactional. Just my 2 cents.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 12:32 AM
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The biggest red pill to swallow is actual experience with women. They want to throw dust in your eyes and make it all seem so mysterious, because the unfiltered truth doesn’t paint a favorable picture. TRP is just comparing of notes from millions of men all over the globe and trying to make sense of it. Most women are red pilled without knowing it, but they hate when it gets spelled out and formulated as theories and strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:43 PM
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That’s what they get when they spend all their days bashing masculinity. Underdeveloped men who are neither masculine nor anything at all. Just whining mommy’s boys who expect the government to fix their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 09:14 AM
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