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you described it as the “ideal world.” there must be an acceptable time to talk about sex. guy 2 is jarring because its at an inappropriately early time. the earliness is what makes it easy to avoid. you at most have 1 negative interaction with guy 2 unless, assuming hes not criminal. 1 negative interaction on occasion shouldnt ruin guy 1, since guy 1 would be easily distinguishable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:35 AM
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i dont understand your point? arent you suggesting if everyone was like guy 1, it wouldnt be ruined? im saying that doesnt matter since theres no way to mistake guy 2 for guy 1 from the womans perspective. if she wants guy 1, she can easily avoid guy 2 and still find any guy 1s out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:57 AM
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not sure how its ruined. from the womans perspective, in this scenario with 2 different guys, guy 1 would make small talk, guy 2 would hit on her immediately. to her, she immediately knows which is which.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:00 AM
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in reality, both groups will be told by different people to keep their standards high, and to lower their standards. i think in the wild, women are told more often to lower their standards than men are, since the usual advice to men is something related to self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:18 PM
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Is it a situationship if you go on a family vacation?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:21 PM
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Neither are true in my experience and environment, but just because both appear to be equivalent in a vacuum, specific social norms could easily make one statement more true than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:34 PM
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why is it contradictory for someone who has had casual sex in the past to be unhappy that someone, or maybe multiple people wouldnt want anything except casual sex? also why are these people the liberal masses?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:45 PM
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who is doing this? prioritizing sex in a modern way is just baseline. its assumed by most of the public. maybe the people doing that shaming arent the liberal masses, but are outliers themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:10 PM
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the label is the worst part
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:42 PM
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its great but also the point when i realize mortality hits voices quicker than i thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:01 PM
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Whether its real or not, theres no way it can be considered a strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:37 PM
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You can argue in favor of something without going so far as to state it is an inalienable human right as far as the birth control is concerned. Like being able to have an abortion, or deny an abortion, is a human right to bodily autonomy. you can still have tons of opinions on how things should be as far as dating is concerned without thinking those opinions equate to someones right to bodily autonomy. Child support doesnt have to do with being a woman. You can get custody if you want and not pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:23 AM
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his what? 1900 years after he died, people who revere him as god still kept slaves
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 08:29 PM
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you can also pose the same question for looks. lots of people wont necessarily be able to accurately describe the exact features they find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 08:26 PM
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it doesnt have to only be because of sexism
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 08:24 PM
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how is that magic? its just bad advice. she doesnt even seem to give it all that much credit. shes not even close to the part of what a relationship entails. shes just at the finding dates stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:44 PM
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where are you getting magic from? she doesnt want to press, she wants to find someone immediately into her a lot. youve said you want similar things. im failing to see the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:40 PM
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Id say no. I dont get the point and I dont think being self deprecating like that is very fun. It seems like it might feel awkward for the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:05 PM
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Id counter with the fact that theres an unnecessary amount of concern over what color most circles are in the context of dating. Youre not looking for the bog standard human.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:02 PM
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the news article can decide what it suggests all it wants. thats not what the study parameters were. the parameters were facial features. my point is actually falsifying this is quite easy for your own life. the studies show a “small to medium” shift in aggregate if the news article about it is to be taken at face value. your life is not an aggregate. you are you, and your hypothetical partner is that person. in order to falsify this study as it applies to your own life, see if your partner whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:07 PM
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in your own news article, it doesnt mention violence or hyper aggression. its a “small to medium” shift in scent preferences between facially more symmetrical men and facially less symmetrical men… if youre concerned about this, just be with her a bit off of any type of hormonal brith control. see if she starts liking you less during ovulation or something to that effect. reading into these news articles, not even the studies themselves, to this degree really just sounds like youre looking for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:41 PM
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if women are struggling because of being too passive, theyd get similar advice. it might be slightly gender adjusted for social norms, but something along the lines of “put yourself out there” will definitely be one of the top line items. women just rarely struggle because they are too passive. its just a less frequent problem because plenty of men are not passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:19 PM
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yeah, lets do 40 eggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:26 AM
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You can barely know how serious the other person is in a year. They didnt ask anything about marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:38 PM
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How is it diabolical? I dont think it should ever be assumed that everything ends in marriage. Meeting each others families is pretty serious to me, but being that serious is not the same as being married which is much more serious. Personally, i dont think id make up my mind about the future either way. Id never say my goal is to be married or have kids; i never knew well enough to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:00 PM
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you imagining a friend or acquaintance doing it is kinda the same thing no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:32 PM
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kevin?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:37 AM
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explain how its incoherent? i already said im not having casual sex in order to get a committed relationship. that would be lacking the exact thing i said makes it interesting. your analogy doesnt fly. i like the superbowl because i dont know who will win. if i knew the result, it would be less interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:34 AM
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yes casual sex is sex outside of a relationship. its not by definition sex with no possibility of a relationship. the thing thats compelling, the thing that makes it different from sex in a relationship, is not knowing where its going. knowing where its going, despite knowing that to be the opposite of where sex in a relationship is going, does take something away from it. i dont see why you have to only appreciate something exactly for the things it is defined as in order to engage? i can like …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:10 AM
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it doesnt have to be like a hobby of mine in order to engage. if it was a means to an end, it wouldnt be casual. the end is unknown. im also not specifically thinking about an LTR. id argue the opposite; if you KNOW someone will never be an LTR, LTR is even more top of mind. NOT knowing anything is the best part about casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:06 AM
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you dont need to built in a specific way. you can just do it. its not the carrot, its the possibility. the lack of possibility, lack of mystery, is inherently less interesting, for anything, not just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:13 PM
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its not interesting when you know exactly where its going. casual sex doesnt have to be with people youve already planned to never go anywhere with. it could easily be more open ended.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:51 PM
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i cant relate since unconventional doesnt matter to me, and crazy freaks me the fuck out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:28 PM
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yes, of course, directly. not propping up the craziest clip you can find, then trying to incite some outrage over it. edit: this is not to say you cant find some third party clip and talk about it; its just not fair to compare that reaction to the reaction of an actual direct debate between 2 people that disagree. thats not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:36 PM
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im saying the thing the pillers say can be ragebait somewhere else. piling on them on another sub isnt the same as arguing with them directly here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:27 PM
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is casual sex even fun if you KNOW you wouldnt want to be in a relationship with this person? probably not…i mean that post nut clarity would certainly take things down a lot of pegs. casual sex is only fun when that possibility is there somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:20 PM
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if its a debate post, the person who came up with the topic actually holds an opinion. arguing something like that isnt the same as someone posting a link to what a 3rd party said, possibly using it as a strawman or some ragebait. the topic itself isnt what makes it a strawman. its falsely attributing it to something, some group or some person. none of what you mentioned is a strawman if someone says it and genuinely believes it. just speaking for myself, i tend to argue with the pill people her…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:15 PM
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is this the same person youve been hung up over for months? where are your plates?!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:35 PM
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arguing with someone directly who holds an opinion is not the same as piling on what appears to be a strawman. if you went to random normie sub and posted the funniest, dumbest, vilest pill take, there will be a mix of responses. some outrage, plenty of dismissive ridicule too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:34 PM
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i bet youll end up in a relationship with whoever that ends up being
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:29 PM
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thats true, if youre only going to be in a place temporarily, its not worth it. i do think for most people that would be an advantage. if theyre not planning to leave the area, you avoid the risk of being priced out of a neighborhood that you like or is convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:34 PM
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its generally very financially advantageous. your mortgage can only decrease, not increase, unlike rent. a good chunk of that mortgage is just paying yourself. youll have to replace stuff, but so does your landlord, you dont really avoid the cost by using a middleman, its just more spread out. maybe you could do more with the money with some other investment, but the security of fixing such a large expenditure while also attaining a large asset is pretty appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:22 PM
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that sanctity is the definition of a relationship. theres nothing inherent about it, you just happened to agree to it by being in a relationship. youre free to dump them and do whatever you want anytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:13 PM
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lol a feminist meeting? like some organized cult? if you walked around and asked women if theyre a feminist, like half of them would say yes. maybe more depending where you live. its not really that serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:13 PM
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imagine a world where that isnt the case. where someone who starts treating themselves and you like shit still hold some magical leash over you just because you liked them at some point. thats more brootal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:58 AM
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this topic is about what she says. but if we go with what she does, are you saying nearly all women hate the idea of making their significant other happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:08 PM
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theyll be justified in the opportunity costs. if rent around them is going up, theyll also charge more. i live in a state with a pretty convoluted real estate tax limit. a strict one wouldnt work since smaller, more sparse communities may need a higher rate to fund their services, and a loose one wouldnt do much. my state has a limit on the amount year over year taxes can increase, but in the inflation time everyone just had to vote on an exception. it doesnt end up doing much. maybe the rapidit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:06 PM
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You can make them feel good in all sorts of ways. Most people probably dont even enjoy be coddled. How common is it for women to say “i never want to make my man feel good. Ill mever do anything that makes him happy”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:10 PM
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lowering property taxes will only increases property prices though, which will then marginalize any rent decreases. lower property tax will allow an investor to borrow more money and make a bigger offer. thats not a savings that will get passed down to the rentor probably. property taxes are also very local so im not sure how thats going to work. i dont know the plan since im not from there, but even if increasing inventory takes time, i cant imagine theres a better solution long term. they cant…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:06 PM
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its not really up to an individual politician to hammer out details. thats going to be more collaborative. no matter how well thought out the plan, it wont happen as presented. too many other stakeholders have input. it is important to know where people stand. if they stand behind higher inventory, theyre putting their reputation behind a commitment. i think politicians like to hide their unpopular opinions behind details and logistics. the ones who try to be too technical in a political environ…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:05 PM
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thats the redpill in a nutshell. the entire concept of “bluepill” is basically a made-up strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:41 PM
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you were in a relationship for 5 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:38 PM
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how would enjoying coddling someone be any more loving a person for who they are? not enjoying, or enjoying the idea of coddling a hypothetical person just says what you yourself like. it says nothing about how you feel about a real person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:30 PM
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probably stop with the love and affection
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:14 PM
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are you in a relationship? some personal issue maybe?. i would suggest not prying immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:13 PM
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its not out of morality. theres nothing inherently moral about being monogamous. cheating is immoral because you agreed to be monogamous and lied. most people dont think fwbs are immoral.. monogamy is a mutual agreement. she also doesnt want you to have sex with other people. thats the romantic part.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:55 PM
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if masses of kids born in your country are intentionally rebelling despite already being adapted to the culture, ie assimilated, even moreso than their own parents, that’s probably a country issue. they’re not going to be more comfortable going to the other country is my point. ive never met children of immigrants who are. even if they decide to be extremist as an act of rebellion, there’s no way to get them to want to live some extremist life from the other country, go do an arranged marriage, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:00 PM
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youre xenophobic, with xenophilic policies, which is hypocritical. go all in, one way or the other. i understand this situation in general. ive lived through it. im constantly around it. id argue i have a much better perspective on the general idea of assimilation than you do. we are talking dresses slightly differently if youre banning hair or face covers. thats slightly different. if that slight difference makes them unsuitable to make any friends, like i said, thats not a them problem. if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:45 PM
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how are thugs foreign? being not assimilated means staying foreign. that is virtually impossible. its not just schools. its media, people. theyre still assimilated even if they dont like or agree with you. theyre more comfortable functioning daily in your country, more appropriate, make less social mistakes, communicate better. how is that not being a part of the culture? if youre so restrictive about “culture” here, meaning, they have to wear the exact pieces of clothing you are ok with, its re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:02 PM
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my point is the effort i spent for minimal results. not assimilating my kids would be absolutely impossible if i wanted to. there is no path to this outcome. political extremism is not a failure to assimilate. political extremism is one possibility for someone who has assimilated. someone is assimilated if the language is their primary one and if they are more comfortable (feel less foreign) interacting with people within the country theyre assimilating to vs the other one. unless your country h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:34 PM
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you want to be treated like a job?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:07 PM
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ive met hundreds of immigrants kids. i have 2 myself. not a single one speaks their parents language better than english past age 8 or 9. roughly half speak no language except english. banning veils is dumb. a stupid rule like that isnt what assimilates kids. show them bluey or something. ive spent thousands just to prevent my kids from being too assimilated. they had to go to a special daycare that was non-english speaking. my MIL came over to take care of them and reinforce that language. they…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:36 PM
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yeah, so just see if she does. it would be stupid to assume she doesnt because she happened to be on her period the first time you met.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:09 PM
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maybe she wouldnt make an exception? thats a dumb thing to assume WILL happen when the thing you actually want to know, whether she desires you or not, is observable directly. why make any assumption? just see if she desires you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:48 PM
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from experience, including being one myself, immigrant kids are 99/1. they all assimilate. basically none of them feel more comfortable in the other country. if they become extremists, thats part of assimilating. plenty of natives are extremists. even living in their micro community, they go to school outside their micro community. they watch media from outside their micro community. they speak better the language of the country they were born in than the one their parents were born in. if your …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:38 PM
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on her period. bad mood that day. she wanted to but wont for safety reasons that early (maybe she had sex more quickly when she was younger in a school environment because safety wasnt top of mind at the time). doesnt have a condom. not a convenient day, maybe she has some appointment early next day. hundreds of possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:38 AM
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immediacy isn't desire. desire is desire. don't use some surrogate to measure desire when you can just observe it directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:41 AM
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no irl
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:40 AM
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its not a kink for me. more like a hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:18 AM
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how could you miss the fact that she isnt into you? it would be obvious. you dont need to consider measuring up or whatever. if she is as into you as you like, then there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:16 AM
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use experience, empathy, general common sense. have you desired someone before? what does that look like? does she care about how you feel? does she initiate? talk frequently about sex? is she dtf all the time? does having sex change her mood and demeanor for a while?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:18 PM
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my girl was way easier as an infant, but has grown to be more of a pain in the ass. shes in elementary school and has horrible sleep hygiene. she just flops around for up to an hour before sleeping. she wakes up at random times. meanwhile my son sleeps easily, and wakes up early but at the same time every day. the girl also is such a pain in the ass in terms of food, and she wont walk too much so every activity has to specifically be planned around her special needs. the boy is more rambunctious…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:22 PM
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i mean, you can observe more than 1 data point yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:14 PM
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theyll never take over. the vast majority of the richer countries have more rights for women. the places with higher birth rates will be overrun with people with few opportunities. they will flock to the richer countries and assimilate. their kids will then have the same values as where they were raised. if their home country gets richer, they will also have fewer children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:41 PM
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you can know just by having sex. it doesnt matter how a relationship starts, if she desires you, she desires you. youre probably right in terms of likelihood, but who cares about likelihood when you can just have sex and know?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:37 PM
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wut? im pretty sure its the pill people who harp on how intelligence doesnt matter at all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:29 PM
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this may or may not be true, but even as a non-romantic man, youll probably be better off adhering to the social standards of romance than not. also being romantic doesnt mean your entire life revolves around her, or that shes even the most important thing to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:19 PM
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A good woman should also insult or belittle you, but fail to stay mad at you. Maybe she can be obedient, but not immediately. Thats no fun. You should at least have to endure a verbal lashing or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:01 PM
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I think morally, this makes perfect sense. But if we arent paying for universal health care, or a whole host of other social services that are probably more necessary than this, i dont really see how this would work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:57 PM
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Its more about the timing. I think its fine to say that after a few dates. But i agree its kinda stuffy if thats something they lead with unprompted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:24 AM
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its not at the point where theres no women is my point. theres plenty of women. theyre just older women. its as much on them as men to change things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:06 PM
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nah there are plenty of women. the overall gender gap in china isnt bad. its only younger women which are skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:00 PM
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a lot of people here say body count is some surrogate for likelihood to cheat, deadbedrooms, etc. if youre using clues, why clueception? why guess at a body count which then lets you guess something else? just use those same clues, and directly, and more accurately guess whats actually more important?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:21 PM
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the practice youre describing involves as many women propagating it as men. i dont see how you can associate this with how men treat women. its how everyone treats women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:12 PM
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if she has access it was probably with his consent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:09 PM
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does it really ruin relationships at some significant rate? i have a hard time seeing this as something more than a reddit problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:54 PM
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its about grief, particularly the more immediate effects of grief. both the brother and mother have an extreme inability to accept what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:52 PM
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any non-out-of-pocket payor has their prices for things and will just pay whatever they have already negotiated. they reserve the right to refuse to pay for certain things even now. if it was single payor, theyd have immense bargaining power for these negotiations. there is still room for fraud but there wouldnt be anything special about the american system there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:47 PM
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she has a creepy smile at the end. no way thats heroic. maybe triumphant in a very perverse and evil way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:10 AM
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pluribus, the main character is routinely worse than the others, many of which are men. shes usually portrayed as more self involved, dumber, and more hypocritical. severance, the most sympathetic character is the mc. most of the male antagonists are more redeemable seeming than the female ones. midsommar: i think youve totally misinterpreted the whole thing. of course a cheater doesnt deserve to die. the female mc couldnt stomach her life anymore, and committed the unforgivable. she joins the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:48 AM
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it will when you get older. even if your libido isnt totally dead, your enterprising nature of finding new people that often will definitely fade. if nothing lasts forever, if novelty fades, theres no reason this is an exception. its far more work, money, and time to have sex with new people all the time, so it stands to reason your appetite for that will be more limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:48 PM
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casual desire fades even faster. nothing lasts forever, but i dont see how casual desire lasts longer than a standard relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:21 PM
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im saying its not just hot guys. average guys have had casual sex at least once.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:29 PM
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most guys have had casual sex at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:56 PM
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i feel like it was easier to pretend like things didnt happen before
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:38 PM
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other types of broccoli are more bitter than the standard ones. like rapini or chinese broccoli. i dont think regular broccoli has changed since 2000
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:00 PM
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lots of those plots have one character having a relationship with a prostitute. but im saying youre earlier point about lower making casual sex better doesnt make sense. theyre all disgusting sluts regardless of number.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:07 PM
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so anyone that has casual sex with you is disgusting, basically equally disgusting considering what you suggested in the other post
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:34 PM
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i don’t think getting into a relationship with anyone who will agree is really what most people who want relationships want
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:19 AM
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that’s probably not the top priority if you’re looking for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:58 AM
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if you are also a sex addict, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:36 AM
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wouldn't a no compete clause be a human rights violation?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:13 AM
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you just said casual sex is the definition of slut
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:37 PM
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how does that make sense? no one can be pumped and dumped? its impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:38 PM
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if its gross why have sex with them at all? im saying the people who are ok with having sex with someone with a high n, but not ok wifing them up, while also being constantly fixated on n count, which to them would only be relevant for wifing, actually have no confidence in their own ability to maintain their own boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:37 PM
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why is something that you only care about for wifing purposes so top of mind when youre nowhere near wifing anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:20 PM
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someone with an n count of 2 could have had casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:17 PM
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People here often say you can get any girl youve had sex with to be in a relationship with you. If thats true, why would this be a lie? If she wanted a relationship with what ended up being a hookup, wouldnt this prompt her to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:00 PM
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lifting is as trivial as the next thing. whats not trivial really
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:40 AM
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not everyone who struggles is weak willed. it's safe to assume the younger ones are. in the case of dating, it's not about being self made or not. you're not really aiming that high. you're just getting some dates. it's about when you start to tilt. if you tilt after 30, you know, fair play, maybe average. if you're tilted at 22 that's definitely a sign of a weak will.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:17 AM
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engaging in victim olympics is dumb, but draft is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:04 AM
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yes. even if it is in aggregate some amount less, they would still do all of those things. castrated men had ambitions historically. celibate people have had ambitions, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:19 PM
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probably A is worse. i think failing to see someone would be poly is maybe more forgivable than failing to see someone was gay. if i was old enough though id just stick with A and we can just be platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:17 PM
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lol holy shit is this putting pussy on the ultimate pedestal
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:16 PM
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how old am i
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:09 PM
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did i respond to you or did you respond to me? did you start throwing insults or did i? please enlighten me. whats a crashout to you?!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:06 PM
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youre the one crashing out about words not meaning what they in fact do mean. i think you should be asking yourself whether thats necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:58 PM
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more than that, the dictionary understands it doesnt matter what some editor thinks sounds dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:52 PM
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hes probably not running in 28, and probably doesnt have much trust or responsibility in the administration
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:43 PM
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you sound stupid for not understanding how language works. feel free to keep “correcting” people for using words that every other person understands
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:43 PM
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he has so much free time he can work on himself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:33 PM
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youre the one crashing out saying it doesnt mean what the dictionary says it means, and saying people are stupid for not following what you think it means. why are you so triggered by such a common phrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:30 PM
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/could-couldnt-care-less
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:14 PM
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Youre the one dying on bring the sole arbiter of english?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:07 PM
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Youre the embodiment of “ well ACKTUALLY” and youre accusing other people of looking stupid? Words mean what they mean. Theyre not wrong just because you think it shouldnt mean what it means to countless other people. I cant say “bet can only mean a gamble. Any other meaning is wrong and stupid.” That would only make me look stupid for not understanding the concept of language.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:03 PM
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You failed to recognize a widely recognizable phrase. Why do you think anything you didnt recognize or dont understand is automatically wrong or stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:27 PM
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Its a specific accent or dialect in english, that has its own rules. You understand it and its consistent isnt it? This isnt a dialect or pronunciation thing. Youre the one who failed to understand a common phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:36 PM
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it is english, since its used in english by english speakers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:06 PM
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you can try to do a phd program. it might not cost money but the living costs will be expensive. could also take forever
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:48 PM
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google understands both. youre going to nitpick english for making or not making sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:32 PM
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its said both ways colloquially
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:06 PM
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ive always felt good will. i dont think id even notice extra empathy or sweetness. i could care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:28 PM
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feeling resentful stems from a lack of empathy. would you want someone you thought was unattractive? what is there to resent if other people feel the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:26 PM
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what about in general and not this specific woman? is it substantively different from “relationship material?”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:32 PM
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what if the woman said instead “i want to have children with you?” insult or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:09 PM
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feeling something is better than feeling nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:40 AM
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its weird that interviews are the analogy here. youre not gods gift to women, but the thing that got you the job is often, and could easily be, your personality. if standards arent as high as the moon, that doesnt really tell you what did it specifically for you. despite the requirements not being all that special, the coincidence of this person who coincidentally also passed your interview, where both of you were looking to interview at the same time, in the same general place isnt exactly some…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:58 AM
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The vast majority of “high status” people arent specifically redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:25 PM
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I dont think feeling you are the victim of some grand conspiracy is an attractive quality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:36 PM
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People here usually don't say "never have sex with someone with a high n count." it's always about not wifing them up. being so fixated on something you really only care about for wifing purposes suggests you don't have any confidence in your ability to have any boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:13 PM
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“likes me” is in a weird spot
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:34 PM
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the irony though is that the pill people are the ones who are fixated on women. like their brains cant comprehend anything unless its from the perspective of something related to women. every social ill is because of feminism. anyone who doesnt actively insult women as a whole must be trying to white knight to get into their pants. nothing can simply just not be related to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:32 PM
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she could be letting you down easy. you can do the same. agree, but dont actually go on a date. text her like once a month maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:34 PM
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yeah, i just dont think the mainstream is getting close to caring about this. andrew tate was EXCEPTIONALLY weird. this is kinda boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:20 PM
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just sounds like someone jaded complaining, then confirmation biasing their own views. its so common it’s really hard to even notice. it would take a lot for something like this to climb out of being in one ear, out the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:43 AM
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youre a few days off
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:40 AM
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theres lots of things to care about. some are just not that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:39 AM
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why would that need explaining? it can, in some instances, doesnt mean it always does. im also not sure the exact nature of that attraction is that important. do you really believe a person is only attracted to you because of some deep cosmic bond that was fated? can there not be any relativity or familiarity in there? some luck, some proximity?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:11 PM
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For your own sake, you should hope not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:20 PM
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being able to spend all the money youve ever had the exact way you want isnt a human right
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:58 AM
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just like not remotely like
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:23 AM
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sure. everyone can pile on someone for getting an abortion if they want. but not letting them, forcing them to go through a whole pregnancy is a human rights violation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:33 AM
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i think its good to have safe places like that on reddit. it reduces the trolls and lets people say what they really feel. its not really different from the TRP sub. i saw one a bit ago where the woman was kinda jealous of her friends husband who sounded like a slave from her perspective. regardless of whether she was wrong about their dynamic or not, her pining for it was telling and funny, since she seemed to view him as a kinda glorified slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:26 AM
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if you think its an oxymoron, your definition of “progress” is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:14 PM
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how old is recorded human history? what % of that time has feminism been even vaguely widespread? what areas does it tend to be widespread?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:09 PM
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you threw in a random third option there thats not like the others lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:03 PM
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is it funny that societal progress always leads to feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:01 PM
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id always assume there is at least something within my control. id never have that low an opinion of myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:59 PM
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lol wtf are normies here?! arent they usually the leftist mob? when they turn into homeless haters and rape apologists wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:11 PM
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why did dating go to wifing that quick
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:58 PM
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i think you should recognize a bit of the skewed perspective you have, but ultimately, who cares how it breaks down? are 55% of men bad partners and 45% of women bad partners? who cares if it’s not 100% equal? you can only focus on yourself, and your own goals. How can you see a larger percentage of the men who would be good partners to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:26 AM
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its kinda ironic that “decentering men” is such a joke here…considering how many people could stand to decenter women a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:10 AM
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this is a kind of pussy on a pedestal mindset. other things exist, good and bad. men with families have killed themselves too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:08 AM
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he routinely has crushes on random people iirc. i think that guidance is going to be a long journey
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:45 PM
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what deep conversations are there to be had? in the end, theres no great purpose, payoff, or meaning. you just have your own little brain and your own experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:43 PM
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i mean you also dont have to invest in every guy you have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:12 PM
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probably not generally, but there are numerous cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:12 PM
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how do you know the paid ones wont be woman haters
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:09 PM
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but y tho. id rather just have unprotected sex with the one person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:27 PM
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the best kinda girlfriend is one who has that disdain, isnt capable of hiding it, but also isnt able to apply it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:21 PM
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iunno be more assertive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:47 AM
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thats the less important thing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 01:02 PM
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You never explained how being fixated on something less important over something more important makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:55 AM
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It doesnt. If there are any conditions at all, there is something more important. Focusing on the less important thing doesnt make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:00 PM
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It doesnt. If there are any conditions at all, there is something more important. Focusing on the less important thing doesnt make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:38 PM
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I didnt bring up the commonness of any kinks. Whatever the kink is, for the vast majority of people, vanilla sex will still be more important. I did carve out an exception for people with no conditions. You carved out another exception thats irrelevant to what im confused about. It explains nothing and is just semantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:08 PM
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it could be the most common kink, and the answer wouldnt change. i dont need to make that carve out as its just semantics. the answer is obvious if there are any conditions. not seeing the obvious doesnt make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:54 PM
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where does the common-ness of the kinks come in? thats irrelevant. is the kink more important? or the amount, frequency and ease of sex? conditional desire or conditional sacrifice is not relevant for that question. if any conditions exist, the answer is obvious. in my OP i already carved out an exception for people this wouldnt apply to. you should have understood it then. it looks like you finally do. congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:44 PM
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i didnt tho. i said those people exist, and thats who what i said applies to. i even specifically outlined how what i said doesnt apply to people with no conditions. how could i have said everyone has conditional desire and also, some people have no conditions at the same time? they are not meaningfully different, so youre not addressing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:30 PM
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if they exist, thats who im saying has it. i specifically said not everyone who is fixated on this has conditional desire, and specifically outlined people this wouldnt apply to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:07 PM
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who? i never referred to anyone specifically. those people exist, and im referring to them. are you saying they dont exist? they arent meaningfully different with regards to confusion. it makes no more sense to be fixated on something less important over something more important. doesnt matter the nature of the conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:45 PM
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you distinguished between the two when i said that. i didnt. i didnt say “im not referring to those who are willing to conditionally sacrifice” did i? because those are the same people to me. i still dont think theyre meaningfully different for this discussion. that difference doesnt make it make more sense. regardless of whether there are conditions to desiring it or sacrificing it, for both people, there are much more important things. hence why the lack of fixation in the more important thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:24 PM
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its not an assessment. “im referring to” is indicating who this point applies to. it’s not assessing the nature of the conditions. the people i described exist, and the point applies to them. for the purposes of the point, conditionally desiring something and conditionally sacrificing it is only a semantic difference. i didn’t make that distinction. you thought it was important. i don’t. since i never made that distinction, i also never claimed anything about the exact nature of those conditions…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:40 PM
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i would because i don’t care to distinguish anyone with any conditions. conditionally desire and conditionally sacrifice are more or less the same to me. i do think most people have conditions. you decided to differentiate them. i never had any opinion on how the conditions broke down. you’re also misquoting me since i never described desire with “mainly.” i said i’m “mainly referring” to a group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:53 AM
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I said im mainly REFERRING to men who desire it conditionally, as in, my point mainly applies to them. when i said that, i didn’t care to distinguish desiring it conditionally or sacrificing it conditionally. you can feel free but my point applies to both anyway. i think most people do have conditions, and aren’t singularly fixated. i didn’t even distinguish the people who have conditions, so i couldn’t have suggested whether they mainly conditionally desired it or conditionally were willing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:30 AM
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that’s exactly what i said. i made an exception for people who are singularly fixated on that kink, and won’t do without it for any reason. for anyone who has any conditions, it’s confusing because it’s much less important than the amount and frequency of regular sex, thus making it a much less reasonable thing to focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:17 AM
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how does that make it make more sense? my argument is if there are any conditions at all, frequency, amount and ease of sex are vastly more important than the kink. since its vastly more important, there should be vastly more emphasis on that. it doesnt matter if the conditions are for sacrificing or desiring, either way, it wont make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:05 AM
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and i explained that difference is just semantic when it comes to my point. both the people who have conditional desire and willingness to sacrifice that desire are the same to me for the purposes of this point, and this point applies to both of them. both people also exist. im not getting what youre not understanding. are you suggesting its impossible for anyone to conditionally desire kinky stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:50 AM
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i didn't emphasize that. in my original post, i said the sex act isn't as important as frequency and ease of sex. i then clarified this APPLIED to people with conditional desire. it's still just a semantic difference conditional desire vs conditional willingness to abandon that desire, but it doesn't matter, since both people exist, and what i said applies to both people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:30 AM
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the meta is still meet in school when you're both probably poor. how can it be the meta if so few people do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:27 AM
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and? they exist, and it applies to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:18 AM
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I did mean to include them. It does apply to them. I never mentioned any opinion about how many people are in that group, and I clearly noted that group doesnt include everyone, so “some people” is implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:16 AM
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You cant run valorant? Damn what makes that mid? Valorant runs on potatoes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:00 AM
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Like i said, if mimetic desire exists, some people will conditionally desire it. The breakdown doesnt matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:58 AM
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Yes. Then you insisted i discuss the ones who conditionally will forgo it. Which i did. I dont know or care how many people are in each group, as it is irrelevant to my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:37 AM
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Some of them do, i never discussed how many
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:57 AM
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Some people somewhere probably are. If mimetic desire is a thing people have, why wouldnt this exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:33 PM
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I didnt make any claim to how many people were in that group. Theyre just among the people my point is relevant to
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:38 PM
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how is that a point? thats an inclusion criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:45 PM
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someone, somewhere probably does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:17 PM
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yeah, im saying kinky is way less important here than the other things
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:43 PM
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im sure some do. anyone who has any conditions is who the point applies to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:57 AM
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it was. the point doesnt apply to everyone. men who only desire it conditionally are amongst the people it does apply to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:42 AM
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theyre included in who the point applies to
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:29 AM
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there was only one point: ease and amount of sex is more important than whether someone wants to do a specific sex act with you. this point doesnt apply to: people who are only interested in that sex act. those people also wont care whether she did it with anyone else before. this point doesnt apply apply to: everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:24 AM
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iunno. at some point you are who you are, and you dont need to take accountability for every single issue that involved you. but if you are taking accountability, i think it extends to something more than just remorse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:21 AM
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im also referring to the ones who conditionally will forgo it. its applies to both.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:51 AM
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that wasn't a point. thats who i said my point applied to. it doesn't apply to people who have no conditions and will not accept anyone who isn't into what they're into. but for those people, it wouldn't matter whether she did it with anyone else. whether the condition is for wanting it, or for forgoing it, it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:45 AM
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it didn't matter to my original point. it's both.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:42 AM
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i guess that's on them but i don't think an apology alone is accountability. it should be paired with some type of action. i don't think feeling guilt or regret over it is the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:41 AM
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mm no. since it applies to people who conditionally will forgo it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:31 AM
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making an effort to minimize whatever it was they needed to take accountability for
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:27 AM
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it doesn't...since my point applies to either. if you're willing to sacrifice it for attraction, you need to look for signs of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:25 AM
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Like i said, that's just semantics. if you're willing to sacrifice it at all, then my point applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:07 AM
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unless youre just utterly fixated on some kink That was my only point. If there's any conditions to it at all, if you're willing to give it up for some measure of attractions, my point applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:56 AM
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yes, my point is everything i listed is a better indicator of whether she is attracted to you than anal sex. she could be unwilling despite trying with others, but constantly wants to have sex with you, will do it any time, anywhere. or, she could be willing to do anal sex, but is frequently not in the mood. which is better? who is more attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:30 AM
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but you said yourself the willingness to sacrifice is there if there is something more important. im saying focus on the more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:25 AM
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its just semantics then. its worth sacrificing for the things i listed. all the things i mentioned are better indications of attraction to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:14 AM
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you made that up in your head tho, which js what implied you were upset. you have no idea what they look like, or why shes getting ghosted. she could be mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:41 AM
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why is this upsetting? arent you someone who ugly women would fawn over but you wouldnt give them a second thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:10 AM
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the ones im mainly referring to are the ones who only conditionally desire it, if she was willing to do it with someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:53 PM
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i think thats a symptom of diabetes?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:21 PM
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im fine with it being low
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:15 PM
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there you go
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:14 PM
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maybe not day 1, but you probably should mention it at some point…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:14 PM
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evenso, it would be more relevant to compare amount of sex, spontaneity, or frequency, than whether she is willing to do butt stuff or not. even if you want to compare yourself to the other guys, compare on the more relevant points.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:11 PM
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its categorically different
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:02 PM
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i dont know why theres such an emphasis on the importance of kinky stuff that the person will or wont do, or has or hasnt done. thats just not going to be as relevant to most people as the vanilla stuff. unless youre just utterly fixated on some kink, chances are, the vast majority of the sex you will have is going to be mostly vanilla. can you have it often? do you have it spontaneously? with minimal, or more likely. 0 planning? can you have sex as a guest somewhere? can you do it quietly? can …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:00 PM
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my point is its perfectly reasonable to criticize my priorities, despite the desire itself being normal. sure if my dream is a beach house in some vague future time thats far away, why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:42 PM
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validity in what sense? like i want a house on the beach now. people who have houses on the beach enjoy them. but its perfectly reasonable to criticize my desire for a beach house when i cant even afford a new car which i actually need.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:25 PM
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a million dollars isnt actually much money any more unless youre really young; depending on where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:41 PM
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How do you square that with looks being the only or most important thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:17 PM
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Unprotected piv sex only is how it should be
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:00 PM
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So when you do it, its not cringe, but when she does something that would be indistinguishable to a 3rd party it is cringe?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:55 AM
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The heirarchy is the thing keeping everyone sane. How can everyone be walking around thinking nothing matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:59 AM
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Theres something about your 20s. Its like colors are brighter, everything is more interesting. All my favorite things are things i favored in my 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:54 AM
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No i mean before you posted this. You are happy to rate peoples attractiveness in a similar manner, and you always seem to tie it back to your own. How is she exceptionally different?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:52 AM
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Shes like a female version of you. I dont see exactly why everyone should be triggered
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:11 AM
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you like people like her?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:41 PM
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i don’t get why people would attack atheism as a concept by bringing up how atheists seem bitter or unhappy. i know that already…how is that a convincing argument for the existence of a very specific religious belief? like i’m dying for a sign, for divine guidance. i already know being an atheist sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:53 AM
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is being such a snowflake that a black character in a game is triggering a point of pride?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:32 AM
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no, but in this regard, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:13 AM
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the gop ran with literal nazi salutes lol where have you been?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:11 AM
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wtf is happening. how are they exclusive but not dating wtf is going on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:04 AM
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2 dates is ideal. if youre friends first i dont count any of that time really.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:01 AM
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I need the honeymoon period to build an emotional bond. I really cant connect with anyone where its working the other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:36 PM
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i dont care too much about waiting for sex, whatever, different people have different boundaries. but i cant stand a long “talking phase.” why do you need to “talk” for so long? the honeymoon period is one of the best things about a relationship. if thats not happening immediately, its probably not going anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:33 PM
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ok youre probably right then. or the guy maybe already has dates planned with other people and if they fall through he will ask you at some point after 2 days.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:25 PM
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unless you met with some pretense of dating thats way too short.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:02 PM
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wouldnt they be ignorant of their options and unable to answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:47 PM
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i dont know exactly how many people can sense it. im almost certain a lot of people can though. you can sense that about someone just as you can sense any number of things about them. with questionable accuracy, but undeniably better than randomly guessing. its not like violent tendencies is some unique blind spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:52 PM
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its my hypothetical…. but i guess i can roll with yours. so lets assume the % of men who would throw women down stairs is much, much less than 30%. so 3/10 is a buttload better than randomly guessing. does it work or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:40 PM
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if 7/10 people could sense it, and 3/10 people couldnt, does it work or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 01:54 PM
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400 kids die a year from heat in europe. 3000 kids die a year from guns in usa. europe is much more populated than usa, so theres no per capita here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 01:46 PM
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ive been triggered by one person
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 01:25 AM
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Just off yourself once youve found it? Or wallow away thereafter? Thats kinda sad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:31 PM
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Im more sad that there probably isnt a god, almost certainly not a super benevolent one as most religions describe anyway. Like what am i doing out here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:26 PM
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its pretty meandering even before the last season
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:30 PM
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Doesnt it generate an auto reply when its removed?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 07:51 PM
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lesbians appear in porn aimed at men. also who is thinking women dont want tall good looking billionaires?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:43 AM
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“always remember, just be yourself bro.” “COPE COPE COPE” Is that how it goes?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:38 AM
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how about a specific example? tall? good looking? funny? like what is individually less shallow? its too common to be that specific a code word. you don’t think girl bosses also say that? they’d probably be good with someone as ambitious as them, or maybe even slightly less.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:10 AM
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normal thing to say. as long as theyre not into someone incredibly cutthroat thats fine. its not especially shallow. not sure what else you could be into thats significantly less shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:44 AM
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So real she did nothing about it until her husband died?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:44 PM
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of all the crazies here, i think the person with the worst perspective on men is a female user.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:26 AM
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most women shouldnt even know youre inexperienced. do you just broadcast that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:23 AM
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an expensive wedding is a weird luxury people insist on having…for what.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:22 AM
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why not? female abusers arent unicorns to such a degree that some therapists cant have a client pool where theyre equal or even predominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 01:29 AM
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disney has historically been all about love at first sight. did no one watch little mermaid? i dont think disney influenced my views on love much. mostly my parents and friends parents. i was pretty sure i never wanted to get married most of my childhood and adolescence. i was more wishywashy in my 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 01:18 AM
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i dont know who they is, but sex isnt the basis of relationships that last a long time. its more like a glue. the basis has to be something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 01:16 AM
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have you never had one?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:28 AM
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or ignore it. or leave. addressing it in a calculated way without being direct is just what being passive aggressive is. you can do it, but i dont know why youd want to change around definitions of words. doing it wont change how she treats you 99% of the time…lol i dont know why youd think its some hack. if it works AT ALL it is likely momentary, just a reaction to a suggestion, which you can also get just by being direct.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:44 PM
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that by definition is passive aggressive. i dont think its necessarily manipulative though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:35 PM
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the decision to get married maybe. if that cant be separated from the whole relationship then the relationship as a whole could easily not be a failure
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:05 PM
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free cake. always eat free cake
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:38 AM
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youve basically said all the most likely scenarios are fine. in the only situation where its not fine, theres not a chance in hell this is the only, or first thing thats not fine. this is just a bizarre thing to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:57 PM
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it doesnt apply. he doesnt do housework and wont ever work in a stable job, take it or leave it. that would be an equivalent. the take it or leave it mentality definitely works here. is anyone advocating she try to change him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:17 PM
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its not the same as the specific examples you provided
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:10 PM
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Are you asking women to take or leave being straight? Cuz for the men theyre taking or leaving specific matches or relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:02 PM
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Id probably try to negotiate not paying support directly to her. Id take on a larger chunk of the expenses and go 50/50 for custody. If she was a good parent shed probably take that. Depends on their age though. If one is very very young id pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:58 PM
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This sounds creepy. Like the beginning of a thriller movie. Someone getting maimed at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:29 PM
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millenials had fewer partners than the last 2 generations, with no covid, so that characterization doesnt make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:28 PM
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no…but i was usually the more drunk one. ive always had a borderline alcohol problem
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:37 PM
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or if the mother isnt capable, or if he doesnt want to pay money and it logistically works for his schedule, or because he wants to be the favorite parent, or because he wants to make it harder for the mom to move and take even more custody, or any number of reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:08 PM
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didnt she say men are blameless as a whole? it seems like the accountability is for the specific situation shes referring to where someone complains about dating to then go on and blame all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:15 PM
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i dont know how extreme it is. just think, is someone actively turned on by abuse someone you like? or not? do you want to attract that? or not? and the common idea that it is table stakes is pretty consistent with this? the point is its not supposed to get you anywhere. its just called being a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:14 PM
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are you saying be nice, or be an asshole? i don’t get the ultimate point here. if you’re taking what they say as gospel, you should be as much of an asshole as possible. if people like them give you the ick, maybe don’t be an asshole so as not to draw people like that to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:57 AM
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this is so bluepill. dont all the bluepill people here say alcohol is more responsible for casual sex than some predetermined dual mating strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:09 AM
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if they dont use social media at all maybe. but if they make any posts, i think trip pictures are the lowest common denominator that everyone posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:44 PM
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or they just went on a trip
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:44 PM
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you typically tell hypothetical women to choose better. but anyone who claims theyre in a happy relationship also didnt choose well because he must be a betabuxx. what is choosing better?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:48 PM
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theyve dive bombed me to make me drop food
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:46 PM
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thats a possibility. so is being in a relationship with someone who desires you more than anyone has before. you can just know based on how much youre desired, rather than your relationship status.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:37 PM
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you know by being desired? you can have casual sex with someone who desires you much less than someone youre in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:20 AM
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the og one is quarantined. not banned. im not referring to the guy. that quote describes the nature of a womans love. which wouldnt fit the OPs scenario either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:47 PM
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at least 70% of them. the other 30% might require a very specific relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:45 PM
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So he finds a woman, who says and shows him that she loves him, but not in the manner he’s had all this time in his head. Her love is based on qualifications and is far more conditional than what he’d been led to believe, or convinced himself, love should be between them. Her love seems duplicitous, ambiguous, and seemingly, too easily lost this is from a link in the red pill sub thats pinned as required
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:37 PM
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why would this arbitrary timeline not be worth compromising for not going a betabuxx route? honestly, i think the deck is stacked against you in the west if you want a betabuxx. the average length of a relationship before marriage is pretty long.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:58 AM
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the bar just moves as soon as something is shown to not make sense. a true consensus would be great
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:55 AM
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i dont see how its their fault. they had too many kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:58 PM
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i was with a virgin who said she had a boyfriend before. she was like 21 or 22 at the time so pretty old.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:34 PM
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how is allowing less people to vote putting more faith in democracy? that makes no sense. no one specifically knows your mom. but if anyone who reads too much facebook cant vote, thats going to reduce peoples faith in democracy. the more restrictions to voting, the less legitimate. children dont have a right to represent their interests in any way. why would that extend to voting? things now are working way better than like 160 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:33 PM
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legitimacy is in the eyes of the people. if less people are allowed to vote, the leader is by nature less legitimate. fewer people had the opportunity to decide. less legitimacy probably means less peace. accountability should be to everyone, not a select group. people are supposed to vote their own interests. even if youre a little dumb, at least you have the opportunity to represent your interests by voting. if you cant vote, your interests go unrepresented. this also ties back to legitimacy. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:20 PM
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voting is an indication you were chosen. if youre only chosen by 1/3 of the people, thats not very legitimate. someone else could potentially come in and say “you werent chosen by the people, you just rigged who could vote.” if any adult can vote, its much harder to say that. same for accountability. voting is the ability to fire a leader. if you are only accountable to a sliver of the population, youre not going to have the interests of the country as a whole at heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:03 PM
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voting is about accountability and legitimacy. not some intelligence bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:58 PM
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anytime someone is certain about someone elses inner thoughts, its projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:56 PM
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so does the redpill idea that women only love what you do for them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:24 PM
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this is purely about money. you can be with the same person and work. the human element doesnt factor in.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:26 AM
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Ive initiated most dates, but most go nowhere. ive “chased” women but only when i was a teenager. of the more successful relationships, its more 50/50 who initiated it. even if i was the one who initiated, the connection was pretty quick. some women want a kind of ceremonial chase? but they generally are already clearly into you if thats the case. i dont know why you would chase someone not into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:23 AM
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forget relationships. in any situation where your livelihood depends on another person, that is a huge disadvantage unless they have some equivalent dependency on you. just because being provided for is worse than not, that doesnt mean it cant be worth the disadvantage. if you are provided for by jeff beezos for 2 years, that could be worth a career. or if youre really poor, maybe it could be worth being provided for by some upper middle class person. but that doesnt change the fact that being p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:08 AM
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it is nothing but a pure disadvantage. if it was your kid, youd advise that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:44 AM
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your social circle is what gets you opportunities to meet new people. new people can end up being romantic partners. a person who is happy single is what another single person would want. not someone needy or desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:17 AM
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there is no purple pill. if youre not an adherent to black or red pill, youre really not anything. the bluepill is a strawman that is propped up as some counterpoint, but the strawman got way too insane to the point where no actual people fit them anymore, so they just needed some more realistic descriptors that could encompass actual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:19 PM
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why does so much advice hinge on you knowing the exact nature of her past relationships? why not just find someone who is as clingy as you prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:32 AM
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where is the “far?” the system already discriminates against people who cant pad their resumes with dumb meaningless bullshit that wealthy people can buy. theres a reason institutions wanted to opt in and keep opting in, so they wouldnt be chock full of bullshitters and could actually find talent more efficiently.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:28 AM
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that meme has more irony in it than what would make sense here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:22 AM
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this is what im sure some idiot said about affirmative action like 30 years ago and black people. howd that work out?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:43 PM
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theres a game in there thats usually not resolved in 6 hours. lets say before meeting, its mostly ambiguous when you might have sex. your chats havent been that explicit. you as the guy maybe could have sex with her on the first date, but youd rather wait 2-3 more dates than put her off. you may decide to hold off before going for it to be safe. there could be logistical issues, especially for younger people who maybe live with their parents or in school. imo theres not going to be a real differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:13 PM
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you wrote a novel, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:52 PM
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im not advocating doing the opposite of that advice, but the issue here is “Never” “or else she WILL.” Do what makes sense for you, for the other person, in that specific scenario. there is no purple pill. purple pill is really just blue pill people who were too normal to fit the idea of a strawman propped up by the more dogmatic pill people. whelp, theyre not actual children who believe in disney movies, i guess we have to call them something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:51 PM
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probably in a fleeting moment here and there
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:45 PM
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When you look at childhood pictures of yourself, and notice how much you look like your kids, it kinda makes you love yourself a little more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:38 PM
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I love how this is your criteria for a president of your own country.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:36 PM
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This would be far more expansive than simply red pill stuff and lonely young men. Also women are significantly higher than men in that poll, so focusing on the statistic would actually necessitate focusing more on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:35 PM
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Is it convenient? A shocking number of young men are so fucked up theyve joined some cult or community that is solely based on being misogynistic and trying to get a shred of pussy. Would that not be alarming? It really doesnt have much to do with the loneliness i feel. Other than the pandemic blip, people have been and dealt with loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:04 PM
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why is the blissful space so limited and small? that kinda suggests god is pretty powerful, but not omnipotent. you dont really “believe” in science. its fallible. you have to be ready to abandon your assumptions, because assumptions are all youll ever have. you can never truly know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:49 PM
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i think its still an issue if god is omnipotent. its not like the only horrible things are free will related. another issue is if god exists, you and god both think god is god, how can either you or god know that god wasnt created by some higher god?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:45 PM
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right, so the womans version of “in shape” should have more forgiveness. but it would still be a failing for a woman to be out of a womans version of in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:50 PM
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i dont think this makes sense unless being out of shape for a woman is also a moral failing. its easier to be in shape as a man. not infinitely easier. so to whatever degree its easier is the only degree to which it would be forgivable for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:17 PM
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if manosphere advice worked it wouldnt be a weird, cultish niche supported by a few influencers at the top. ironically, manosphere advice pedestalizes women much more. youre supposed to change the entirety of your personality for a little taste of pussy? the most bluepill advice out there is “just be yourself.” basically, “do whatever you want, im sure youll be fine.” compare that to: you always need to keep her on her toes, you need to hold frame, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:27 PM
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what are the feelings? like just a thought that shes really attractive? or like you want to be around her, stay in touch with her etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:53 AM
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babies are nice. they cant move around on their own. you can dump them somewhere and know theyre fine until they cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:37 PM
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Pa kimchi is the green onion one? Whats the rice flour for?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 11:27 PM
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we both started dating other people at some point. i cant speak for her, but the woman i got into a relationship with was very attractive, and just my type, so i did not hesitate to just end that. we stayed friends though. i went to her wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:05 PM
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she was a fwb for a reason. i wasnt particularly into her. she didnt seem especially into me either. we would see each other once a week or less, drink, watch netflix and have sex. we never really did anything sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:01 PM
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i had a fwb for a little while
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:57 PM
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where did anyone say its not common? its arbitrary in where the exact line is, and you just described exactly how its constructed. why cant something constructed encompass a lot of people? it can be well constructed, but still constructed. i dont see how you can be essentialist if people exist where they are easily identifiable by other people as acting, and/or looking like a gender that isnt the same as their sex at birth. if the broader world can identify this mismatch, it must be constructed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:58 PM
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you failed to describe 10% of people. not an insignificant number. and your idea about the portrayals SUPPORTS the concept of gender constructivism, and hurts the idea of essentialism. portrayals are social.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:49 PM
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How is it possible to deny gender constructivism? The proof is in the pudding, people already do not identify or comport with the norms of a gender in a way that is clearly observable and identifiable to people around them. even young kids can recognize it. so how is it possible that it doesnt exist? no label changes the chromosomes in their DNA, but outside observers clearly have an understanding of those labels, and can clearly see how certain people wont fit those labels. why would you just d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:46 PM
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Heterosexuality isnt inconsistent with gender constructivism. It doesnt have to be essentialist. A gender constructivist would think some people could be at the extreme end, and only liking people at the extreme end isnt inconsistent with acknowledging other people arent at the extreme end. I dunno where the crashouts are but the top comments didnt seem to be crashouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:37 PM
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i dont get your understanding of what that means here. i dont go to that sub so i have no idea, but do you think they hate anyone identifying as a single gender? like they think no one can see themselves at an extreme end of the spectrum? if thats not what you think they mean, why wouldnt that be consistent with the concept of heterosexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:24 PM
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typically trying to find someone desperate is a bad idea
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:46 AM
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dude, how can they be clapped out at 25? youre so fucked if thats the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:28 AM
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dunno what your definition is but in some sense it has to exist. how can the world be understood without causality? even if by some strict definition, it doesnt exist, wed still need some presumption of causality just for the sake of our brains being able to understand anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:50 PM
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even if theyre pillow princesses by nature, i feel like it should still be obvious, just based on the small things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:55 PM
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this seems like a wholly unnecessary precaution. the chance shes even trying to deceive you is slim. the chance she can do it even once is even slimmer, and the chance she can do it more than once is basically negligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:52 PM
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Shouldnt it be fairly self evident how sexually desired you are when youre actually doing the sex? you dont need to calculate any market values, and it doesnt really matter whether she wanted a pricey dinner first, or if you netflix and chilled, it doesnt matter if she wanted commitment or if youre poly. even if shes able to deceive you once, and put on an oscar winning performance (i mean, y tho?), you think shes gonna be able to keep that up for a very long time?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:04 PM
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Even if its not wrong, i dont get it from an emotional standpoint. How do you volunteer for that shit? Like how can you stomach the ball of flesh that just popped out of your coochi being cut like that? Its either tired as fuck and sleeping or mouthing like youre going to breast feed it, instead you violate it?!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:56 AM
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The expectation that either the whole gender should monolithically do the same things, or that individual hypocrisy shouldnt exist in women is born from the exact “women are wonderful” expectation that pill people think everyone else operates with. As for watching what they do, what does this mean specifically? Is it watching what woman A does, and attributing those actions to woman B? Or is it watching woman A, and judging woman A by her actions? If its the latter, youd need to watch for a whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:50 AM
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are you expecting women to never be hypocrites? isnt this the same “women are wonderful” effect that the pill people say is deluding everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:57 PM
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i get not thinking about the implications, or not thinking its wrong. i just don’t get how when its time to violate the baby in your hands that you went through a torturous day to pop out you would’t do a double take and be like “wait, is this ABSOLUTELY necessary? maybe we can put the knife down?”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:57 AM
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what possesses someone to mutilate their newborns right at birth? like, how? i couldnt even bear to poke the first one for a hep b vaccine right away and delayed that for a week. crazy that people will choose to just do an elective surgical procedure for no benefit. i ask my daughter if she wants earrings, she still says no despite being obsessed with adorning herself with all kinds of random shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:01 AM
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lol. what? have you ever been hired for a job? DEI basically doesn’t exist. DEI programs in the vast majority of cases are some stupid ppt a mid level manager is forced to complete once a year, that he/she probably just skips through.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:16 PM
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is this your proxy for happiness? if its not, im sure you could easily surpass it shortly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:33 PM
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most men and women i would guess have been with the type of partner they truly desire, at least once or twice. anyone who has had a honeymoon phase should fall into this camp. its probably hard for most people to have everything else work out and be able to healthily stay with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:31 AM
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not much during sex, its usually hugging or squeezing outside of tits or cock. i think we touch each other a lot if we are alone, so i wouldnt even really consider it foreplay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:01 AM
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no. cant imagine how thats even possible. men somewhere must have not cheated before. what i can absolutely promise is that very few men will cheat on you on and off for the entire duration of your relationship of 8 years. thats insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:56 PM
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they sexually respond to back rubs. ive never given a backrub and not had sex soon after.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:28 PM
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im assuming that wouldnt be a date lol. its not so much about knowing someone. more about having some sort of feelings for someone at least. im not even confident i wont absolutely hate this person. i dont feel i should be giving someone flowers right upon meeting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:14 PM
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its more, but thats at least after the date. this is the moment you meet you roll up with flowers which is awkward. id have no problem with this, and have done this myself, if i had met the person before, and had at least a little familiarity with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:08 PM
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its just awkward. its too affectionate a gesture for that situation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 03:30 PM
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if its a dating app you havent even met before
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 03:03 PM
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i think cheating doesnt have to be an n. you can cheat without getting that far
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 12:31 PM
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unprotected piv only
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 03:59 PM
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none of these personality things are particularly useful. there arent going to be logical ways to group people into personality types, then also accurately attribute some series of behaviors to your arbitrarily segmented personality groupings. theres just no way to accurately study people in this fashion. its way too nebulous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 11:54 PM
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that must be a weird definition of “better”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:04 PM
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caipirinhas (sp?) are so great
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:19 PM
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omg shes like thirst trap tier?!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:46 PM
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its your aunt though, how often can this happen? are you with her all the time for some reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:31 PM
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youre a human. theyre humans. thats like, 95% of the frame of reference. how do you empathize with a person of a different race? a different culture? a different age? wheres your frame of reference for those differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:28 PM
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its easy to make this claim when “high status” is such a vague and moving bar
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:13 PM
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can you not say the same for sex with men? love is like a glue. it bonds you through some bad times. but there is and should be a limit. ultimately, you still have to look out for yourself. not doing so, staying with someone abusive, or a drug addict, would be considered unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:10 AM
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anytime i read about passport bros these days im always reminded of this scene from white lotus https://youtu.be/QSITUpElxso?si=EGgtvTLbtq_Wum70
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:13 PM
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if marriage is just for comfort that youll do eventually when youre old, and you want to maximize your prime years, you could exclusively go out there, enter the jungle every day, and try to find something casual, or you could spend at least a portion of that time with one person who you know you like, in an arrangement that is conducive to having more sex more often, due to sheer convenience, that could also save a bit of money by sharing expenses? it seems like option 2 is at least good enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:56 PM
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casual sex also wont last. if nothing lasts, would you rather have comfort or no comfort?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:50 PM
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if theyre hopeless anyway, id like to learn about how they got that way, what they perseverate on, so i can maybe, if needed, save one one day. not necessarily just from the red pill or manosphere, but any dogmatic cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:57 PM
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its worked pretty great for a long time. most of the oldest continuous governments are democracies. you gotta let people blame someone, or theyll start murdering. trump is bad, but as long as people can get some carthasis for booting him or his hand picked successor, the country probably wont descend into chaos. how many opportunities could you have possibly given it to work? id say for most people, not nearly enough to uproot your whole personality and do all the things you never wanted to do b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:51 PM
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society also works as it does because of our base instincts. it accounts for it, and is built around maximizing some parts of it. capitalism attempts to allow maximalist indulgence in greed, democracy indulges our desire for accountability or scapegoating, etc. why fight this one? this is one of the ones you should indulge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:38 PM
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does being that hyper vigilant all the time sound better? it sounds worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:09 PM
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oofy doofy is derogatory, but it almost feels like its out of jealousy. isnt that the dream? to be an oofy doofy that goes around saying “just be yourself” entirely unironically, who doesnt need to dread game, spin lots of plates, think about whos turn it is, or calculate their own and all their dates market values like a walking redfin estimator? if youre that oofy doofy at heart, which i think anyone who has a “i was once bluepilled” villain origin story is, why fight it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:01 PM
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That or literal robbers
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:46 PM
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Probably some groups of them are advised. A fair amount of them are predators themselves. Non ppb tourists are often advised to be wary of the predators there too. Theres always going to be advice to stay away from predators. This situation is just a recipe for predators on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:39 PM
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lol. give it a shot. see how it turns out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:08 PM
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you cant compare it to food or oxygen…its not something you will die without. the options with food are eat, or die. if youre going to make analogy to material goods, it would have to be something where you wouldnt literally die shortly after not having it. a luxury item, a car, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:49 PM
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they dont ever ask for the smashes and theyre the best imo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:22 PM
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you have bad taste. you dont like tsunderes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:15 PM
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Canadian dollars, or new york, or a lot of alcohol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:59 PM
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Its unfair that antisemetism tropes are so absurdly generic. Any sort of implication that someone is pulling the strings can be seen as antisemetic which is stupid since this trope is routinely used for anyone with power. I think we need to all agree that the actually racist stuff has to be way more specific with more telltale imagery.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:49 PM
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Its probably harder overall. An Fwb is just an ONS that agrees to do it again so it can only be harder imo. but its still a dumb way to measure “desirable”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:41 PM
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that condition is the act of “having” it. if they cant have it, theyre not ok being constantly reminded of the fact that they cant have it. the one who desired the thing less would be more ok with occasionally getting to use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:57 PM
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your analogy is misplaced. the one who drools over it would be less ok with not having it. if you had it, and offered to allow them to borrow it for a day or 2 a month, the one who wants it LESS would think thats cool. the one who wants it more doesnt want to borrow it, they need ti have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:36 PM
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the one who chooses not to engage is the one who desired him more is what im saying, provided she wanted that relationship, and asked for it. this is true in most cases, with one exception. i dont think its important to make a distinction between when this comes up. they may have had sex already once, twice, or 0 times. the person who is happy continuing to have sex desires the guy less. the person who cant stomach the idea that he will have sex with other people and leaves desired him more. lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:10 PM
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the OP contrasts casual sex with a relationship. the main difference between those things, the only change that would occur were you to move to a relationship from something casual, is agreeing not to fuck other people. im not sure most women want that before having sex, most could want it after, dunno, but wanting it, at whatever point, indicates more desire than not wanting it at that same point. wanting it more indicates more desire than just kinda wanting it but being ok either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:56 PM
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its also desire for the person in general. if you want to have more sex with 1 person, youd want them to have less sex with other people. that takes up their time, and one of those other people may be more inclined to try to propose exclusivity, which would entirely cut you out. you need to get in front of that. if you yourself have to give up having sex with other people for this, why not? small price to pay since you just want to have sex with that 1 person anyways. thats a stronger indication…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:41 PM
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its literally not though. if netflix has an exclusive deal to distribute a movie, does it then own that movie? no…the movie can be distributed by anyone else after the deal expires. in the case of relationships, there isnt even a duration. its at-will, meaning whenever 1 person says its over, its over. that doesnt resemble ownership in the slightest. im not arguing why you should or shouldnt expect exclusivity. im saying wanting that exclusivity indicates more desire than not wanting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:23 PM
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it makes you feel special when they openly complain about you in some way, or insult you in some way, but they just cannot manage to be too mad at you and you can easily win them over with a phrase, a shrug, or a smile, something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:03 PM
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your nationalism is more akin to rabies imo. iran is more like a cornered dog. theyre grasping at straws, lashing out in ways they can. youre just randomly lashing out, in random places, about random stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:29 PM
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maybe dark souls 3? or half life 2?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:25 PM
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why does looking like them make you want to die for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:50 PM
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being better than the other 3d fallout games is a low bar to me. fallout 3 was also very uncreative with how it handled the central narrative and choice. you got to choose to do some heinous stuff, but youd still basically end up shoehorned into the same last few story beats in a very dissonant way. the witcher 3 was basically the only major AAA game that had moral choices and didnt feel like it had no idea how to deal with that at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:46 PM
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they cant do nothing. they also get drafted. everyone not actively raising young children: drafted
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:39 PM
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velen was awesome. fallout 3 was way more of a slog.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:38 PM
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im not missing the point; its not really proof is my point. why would someone who doesnt really care if you sleep around be seen as desiring you more than someone who cant stand to imagine it? women cant secure anything. if they ask, all they want is a verbal agreement that you both acknowledge can be broken at any time. even if its a “requirement” its basically just a sign of their intentions. that intention indicates more desire than not having that intention, or being happy without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:37 PM
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it was like the only playable one at the time to me. open world games are such a slog usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:27 PM
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they definitely should, and do. your proposed method of fixing birth rates is just missing some elements
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:23 PM
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by this logic, single dads should be inelligible to be drafted, and childless women above a certain age should be drafted. if youre not contributing to kids, get drafted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:11 PM
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a huge percentage of relationships started with sex before there was commitment, if not most. plenty more where they had sex and 1 side wanted commitment, but the other didnt, so its not particularly rare to have sex, then either start a relationship after, or split because one person wanted a relationship. i think the arrangements where both people are happy keeping it casual for extended periods are pretty rare, but despite it being rare, its actually an indication of lower desire. being “sele…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:27 AM
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those chinese restaurants are very common, for poor people. rich chinese people go to the restaurants where youre welcomed by like 6 people all bowing at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:12 AM
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it doesnt have to be ONS. it could be an fwb. anything thats not exclusive indicates less desire. theres no exceptions. im talking about feelings, not rules. if she just slightly prefers going on a date rather than being in a situationship, but is overall happy with everything, thats a lot less desire than someone who is wrecked by this situationship, constantly feels jealousy and is constantly doingnher best to get you to commit and is devastated that you dont. at some point, the vast majority …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:05 AM
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the op contrasted casual sex with a relationship, so im highlighting how the wanting of the relationship indicates more desire, all else being equal. if a woman is just ok with a casual arrangement, it indicates she desires you less than if she is not. assume all else is equal. if you already had sex once, then its the same in both cases. if you havent had sex yet its still the same. the case where she is not ok indicates more desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:49 AM
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not caring is an indication of lower desire, not higher
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:29 AM
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No explanation. No opinion. My point is WANTING that relationship is more an indication of desire than not wanting that relationship. Whether its a requirement or not for that particular woman isnt that important for this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:03 AM
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Wanting them to exclusively have sex with you for an indefinite duration on an at-will basis is also not the same as being property. I thought you were making an analogy lol. If a relationship is private ownership, then casual is community property.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:42 PM
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wanting you as private property is a stronger indication of desire than letting you be community property.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:35 PM
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in this case it applies to both. is she MORE attracted to you if shes ok with you fucking other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:27 PM
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im just saying wanting that monogamy means she probably desires you more than if she didnt want that monogamy. the more she wants it, the stronger the indicator. im not commenting on how toxic it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:18 PM
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a relationship is usually more, but at the point of forming one, thats all it is. dont fuck other people, make our arrangement known to everyone. thats it really. youre assuming the absolute worst case for a relationship and the absolute best case for casual sex when neither are those things by definition. two lazy ass homebodies can be in a relationship. very little date planning or whatever. you could court someone for months and end up with a one night stand because she was a little drunk and…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:11 PM
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my b, lol he did say that, but the actual fact is courting has nothing to do with the question at hand. you may have to court for casual sex. you may not have to court for a relationship. the only actual difference is promising to not fuck other people. wanting that promise is more an indicator of desire than not. plenty of other factors can also be independent indicators themselves. like were you forced to court for a month?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:20 PM
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no where does he talk about courting. you definitely have more responsibility in a relationship, but theres really only a couple at first. dont fuck other people. let other people know we are a thing. thats really it. does asking for you to be responsible for those 2 things mean she likes you LESS? that doesnt make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:03 PM
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the only IOU is dont fuck other people. the line is open for future agreements certainly, but none of that is owed at that point. theyd be more hurt if they kept you around. all youre giving them is a promise. and id agree with you if they gave the ultimatum as a bluff, you called it, they had sex with you anyway, and would just be toxic and jealous the whole time, and would constantly try to get you to change your mind. that doesnt sound fun, but maybe that would be a strong indicator of desire…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:59 PM
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sure, that possible, but my question stands, someone suing a celebrity for child support is genuine desire? even if you think money is a factor in desire, which it sounds like the OP is strictly disagreeing with, how can someone who is only targeting someone for money be considered true desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:49 PM
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none of that is stipulated. a man can spend no time courting her, and she could ask for a relationship. a man can spend weeks courting someone, and they could have an inebriated one time hookup. the question is about casual vs not casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:46 PM
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whats the important commonality with those people? theyre rich. all those women genuinely desired those guys? or did many of them just want a baby and some child support? im not sure what youre arguing at this point lol. someone suing a celebrity for child support is genuine desire now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:25 PM
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a relationship, at the point someone is asking for “commitment” is not much more than that. i feel like that supports my point. theyd rather get invested and be hurt, than never get invested at all if they really liked someone (usually).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:21 PM
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you said Because she likes you so much she’s ok with sharing you that implies the more you like someone, the more ok you are sharing which doesnt make sense. lets ignore red pill or whatever theories. if someone is more ok sharing you, you think that is an indicator they desired you more? theyre more ok with the fact that you could be with other women, one of whom may end up monopolizing your penis? This just doesnt make sense on a very basic level. if you want to have more sex with a particular…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:17 PM
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how? even in your own world view, its only fucked when she stops initiating. so when she stops initiating, she stops “desiring” you in the OPs words. dump her at that point. that has nothing to do with whether she desires you and how much she desires you at the point of wanting a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:07 PM
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it does as that is the point of the post. he wants to feel that the woman is experiencing desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:52 PM
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which is mutually exclusive with “casual”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:50 PM
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a “relationship” is just temporary monogamy. your entire point only makes sense if shes demanding a wedding ring
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:49 PM
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that doesnt make sense. you want to share the things you treasure MORE?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:47 PM
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im just summarizing the intent of someone that wants a “relationship” at that specific point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:44 PM
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thats basically what a relationship entails at first. not much else but that. so if she is asking for a relationship, at that moment, this is basically what shes asking of you. “please call me your girlfriend when we are out. please tell people you know about me. please be seen with me publicly in such a way that other people know youre not single, and please dont fuck other people.” thats basically the ask at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:12 PM
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why would asking you to never fuck other people because it would hurt her so bad mean she likes you less
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:57 PM
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your track record is interesting…so maybe something different from what youve done before.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:30 PM
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pretty much 100% of people posting on reddit about their relationship issues at like 3 months should break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:38 PM
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moral is practical. morality is usually in large part agreed upon, with some disagreements here and there. conforming to it is practical. this is just in general, not just in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:04 AM
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easy to go down the wrong path when you think god told you to go down that path. just generally easy to go down the wrong path
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:29 PM
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how is provocative clothing manipulative? its not manipulative simply because its attractive, that wouldnt make sense. its like the opposite of manipulative lol, since you can see more. makeup has the potential to be, but that only makes sense if its not clear makeup is being used, which is basically never the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:25 PM
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when i google, i see modis approval is like 70%. if its parliamentary and they form a coalition, vague “support” from an indian american wouldnt be analagous to a vote for that party alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:02 PM
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sure, whatever demo youre getting that 60% from. thats LOWER in india?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:56 PM
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whats that compared to india? are you only looking at hindu speaking indians in america? compare thst to the same in india
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:50 PM
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funding could easily be a small number of people. i highly doubt the average indian in america is more supportive of anti muslim policies than the average indian. like you said, theyre overwhelming democrat. theyre less likely to be able to segregate themselves from muslims, and they knew that before coming, but came anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:38 PM
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you mean theyre doing it in america? or are you saying the same “type” of person in india is supportive? my point is the decision to even come is its own filter. someone that strongly cared about anti muslim policy wouldnt even come. plenty of rich people stay in india too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:22 PM
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much less likely than the average indian
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:14 PM
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thyere more liberal than conservative. theyre also not likely to be radical leftists. but theyre typically liberal. maybe theyre socially conservative moreso than the average democrat, but they probably dont really care about culture wars. if they did, they wouldnt have come. they came for money, living conditions, education, kids, theyre just extremely more likely to weigh those more heavily.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:04 PM
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you dont test their brains…you look at their external circumstances. highly educated, middle to upper middle class, WANTING to go to a liberal country despite risks and hardships, bonus points if from a country with a relatively newly repressive regime.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:57 PM
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what are the factors that make anyone, anywhere, very likely to be liberal? theyre not that hard to screen for. indians in america for instance are going to be a very specific slice of the demographics in india.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:51 PM
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thats why you take the liberal ones
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:47 PM
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china and korea are only a rat race amongst the elite. this is also true in western countries. they are just different in terms of how they go about the rat race. and if thats the cause rather than the effect of the low birth rate, it still shows the west is way less sensitive than other areas to the exact things you think will destroy society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:43 AM
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maybe you have a point about the cost of living in japan, but the other 2 dont seem higher than western countries. the western countries also let women work in offices. it is also a rat race. the focus of the activities is different but raising kids is a huge rat race. but the richer asian countries are somehow MUCH worse in terms of birth rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:30 AM
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ok, but why not 7? its the same reason other people dont want 3
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:23 AM
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my parents each had 5 siblings, they were cared for. you can do it. make those sacrifices.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:21 AM
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those poors do? you can do what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:17 AM
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going to your birth rate thing, it sure seems asian countries have a far lower tolerance for feminism and cost of living than the west. japan, china, korea, none of them are exactly super progressive feminist societies. the cost of living isnt even that bad by western standards, low-middle of the pack maybe, yet their birth rate is cratered, way worse than western countries that are far more feminist and expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:16 AM
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you can be one of those poors, and have 7 kids too. you have that ability
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:11 AM
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ok, some areas are even more expensive, where the social pressure on your labor per child is even higher. the same reason you don’t want 7 kids is the same reason lots of people dont want 3 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:04 AM
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is the not-west better?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:58 AM
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why not 7 kids
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:57 AM
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it works real good on me too. love the mean ones
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:56 AM
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dunno, but if negging isnt the kind of playful banter thats just mildly insulting, i dont see how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:55 AM
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only someone in your imagination disagrees with everything. we didnt suddenly stumble upon esoteric knowledge the instant someone saw the matrix and decided that applied to dating. its not that revolutionary, or novel. lots of red piller “claims” are old. the most special thing about the red pill is the meta framing, that somehow the world conspired against you to keep you from this knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:26 AM
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i think negging almost never works as a way to devalue someone, or lower their self esteem. cant imagine attacking someones insecurities ever works. it works best when you attack something you know theyre confident about, so theyll know youre kidding. IMO its such a prevalent strategy because it allows you to be very complimentary overall, but the neg here and there helps prevent it from being overly saccharine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:19 AM
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your “blue piller” is just a convenient straw man. the whole idea of a purple piller only exists because your strawman got too crazy. so blue pillers have whatever logical merit you say; you made that character.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:07 AM
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is he super relevant here? cuz hes brought up so much, but the topic is always drugs…he just sounds like another douchey celeb with a drug problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:05 AM
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so a woman can just be horny? wouldnt that suggest men also dont need to lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:04 AM
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its a euphemism for i dont like you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 08:42 PM
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the way you approach this question is kinda dishonest. “can someone rationalize what i already know to be true?”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 08:36 PM
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anyone who wants to GTOW should actually GTOW. nothing disrupts the market more than bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:51 PM
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How does them having simps change how they feel about non-simps? Something that is completely not an option and not interesting to you has little effect on what youre actually interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:53 PM
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you mostly tell your employer what to withhold
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:16 PM
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they walk behind you to set it up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:15 PM
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If women can lose the ability to pair bond because they fucked you, they must also not have completely made up their mind about you and how attractive you are the moment they saw you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:06 PM
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i dont get how this is possible without it being incredibly obvious. “ok wear this night gown, stand outside. open the door in 5 seconds so i can be on my laptop.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:43 PM
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maybe this should be a shit test guys do
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:36 PM
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people with higher n probably do struggle more on average, than people with lower n. its probably not because of the n itself. older people struggle more, divorcees struggle more, etc. i bet if you controlled for age it would be not very different at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:23 PM
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ironically, all the pill people need to avoid that app. cant be settled for afterall
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:19 PM
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i swear ive seen that picture before
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:17 PM
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First, whats a simp? my understanding is it is someone who never gets anything from the woman but tries to give gifts or compliments to somehow change her mind, which will never happen. going by that definition, i dont see how that affects anything at all. If youre intent on buying supreme clothes, would the sales that gap offers really affect your opinion on supreme? no. if youre definition of simp is simply a guy who in your opinion does too much for a woman who really likes him, whatever he i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:15 PM
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politicians are slimier and can pivot better in such a way to form the appropriate coalition to not lose a landslide. even though there are fewer landslides, each cycle has a different set of battlegrounds so shifts are still happening
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:41 PM
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i dont see how revisualizing the same info changes anything. other info was collected in the same blog post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:39 PM
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they respond to uggos more
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:37 PM
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in this same study, the distribution of messages from women to men was much more evenly spread out across all attractiveness, but the messages from men to women were much less evenly spread and were overwhelmingly toward the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:56 PM
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the amount of schizophrenia in this short a timeframe has to be a new record
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:52 PM
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i think a little objectification during the sex itself is often appreciated
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:12 PM
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rough sequence of events regarding trump and iranian oil unsanctions iranian oil and let them sell whats on tankers already to keep prices manageable say the strait of hormuz isnt actually important to the US tell other allies to get their own oil from the strait threaten genocide if the strait isnt open blockade the strait himself so that no one can sell oil how does this make sense…you let them sell oil to keep prices down, now you dont let anyone sell oil. you tell other allies to get the str…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:59 PM
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i like the ones where the girl is mean tho
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:58 PM
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i feel like not being here would probably make dating a little more enjoyable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:49 PM
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it wouldnt be someone
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:47 PM
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studies be clickbait
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:13 AM
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this study doesnt make a lot of sense. they state they desensitized the language in the survey to get more open and honest answers. they then characterize all the responses as “forcing” women to have sex. except most the listed strategies, if not stated with the context of forcing someone unwilling to have sex, will not be interpreted by a normal respondent as forcing someone to have sex. like one of them is having a female friend bring someone over…if shes not even over, how do you know she nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:08 AM
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the halo effect means liking 1 part of you bleeds into liking other parts. like a woman will think youre funny if she thinks youre attractive. this would suggest women are incredibly bad at compartmentalizing anything, making them easy to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:43 AM
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how is there a “halo effect” as is frequently said here if everything is perfectly compartmentalized?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:26 AM
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thats incredibly easy…does she think highly of you? there you go… instead of just using your common sense to figure that out, youre instead going to map every guy she had sex with and calculate vectors about their similarity to you somehow, despite never trusting a word she says about those guys? so some women are honest? thats more or less true. whats also true is that most women are readable. most women, most humans, arent master manipulators. with a little time, it is incredibly easy to answe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:20 AM
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first define ruined. then look for signs of ruin. you cant trust women in any way, yet youll just take for gospel what she says about this one thing? how does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:11 AM
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its easier to just tell if shes ruined than to know her true thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 12:23 AM
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why are there so many theories about the quality and quantity of n and whether they ruin a woman or not? by the time you have intimate, possibly inaccurate knowledge of the quality and quantity of n, you could just determine if shes ruined or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 11:56 PM
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you know this how?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:16 PM
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an n count isn’t just someone you slept with consistently for a month or 2 though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:10 PM
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And he got jd vance…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:22 PM
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wtf was jd vance doing there. hope u win
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:07 PM
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maybe intelligent life but it seems like once life exists, its pretty resilient. still hope theres life somewhere in the solar system
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:02 PM
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ive already achieved all my admittedly unambitious goals. i dont have any new ones really. maybe meeting or at least learning about alien life. i doubt ill acieve that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:09 PM
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I feel like its quite easy to avoid this dynamic if its not what you want. Some nerd out there might be happy his stacy wife is writing this. You can easily not be that nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:27 PM
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You hate women…but youre pining for one just one post below. You are so fucked. Can you even imagine being not fucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:24 PM
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This only makes sense if you assume the average person is doing the seeking. Cults and grifters are experts at targeting marginalized people who are clueless as to what is and isnt off base.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:16 PM
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the whole point is youre NOT attractive. money can come later, thats what makes it a goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:15 PM
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where is the be a sugar momma option
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:57 PM
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except all the ways its different, its exactly the same
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:56 PM
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plenty of non-western people like gun control. and the deep south is western…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:29 PM
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No. I mostly see people i totally forgot. I kept in touch with the people i remember. My class was pretty big.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:50 PM
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whats unforgivable? people be getting the death penalty for slurs against gays somewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:19 PM
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its still pegged, but theyve both loosened it and let it increase in relative value, it used to be 0.12 or less, which indicates there is interest in letting the currency increase in value. china already has a trade deficit with most countries, and its surplus is just like loaded mostly with the US. I also dont think an independent central bank is critical, since the US central bank isnt wholly independent, and has printed money during war/borrowing time. maybe the euro is a better candidate, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:59 PM
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“men are just as bad as women”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:14 PM
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the opposite is also controversial apparently, so not that crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:12 PM
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what kind of job is this where her family is still in the philipines
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:11 PM
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thats not necessarily true, you dont really know individual circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:11 PM
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you can still devalue your currency as you please. america did that during the iraq war. china is already less reliant on exports than before and has growing debt. the rmb has grown in value vs the dollar in the last 20 years when in the past they fixed it to the dollar. being the primary currency wouldnt be a problem for them in the near future. theyre already moving in that direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:08 PM
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the US economy will be fucked if we lose our control over the global currency. there goes our little debt cheat. trust in us is one of our biggest assets, which these dummies are happy to piss away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:19 PM
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lol of course israel ruins it. cant even give trump a day to parade a “victory.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:11 PM
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depending on how you define glorified, thats what kids are. i dont know what kind of threshold you think makes sense to qualify as actually wanting kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:59 PM
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would the cops do anything? it sounds kinda like a non-police issue if thats the case. maybe they could have sent him to therapy or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:57 PM
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we still have sex more than enough to reproduce. the kids just need so much more shit and time just to be a non outcast.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:36 PM
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it is hard. why would it be easy? if they said “men are wired to never be able to hold relationships. men cant love women the way women love men. the only way to keep a man interested is to constantly let them know you can have sex with other men any time you want if he steps out of line” that response would be pretty fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:16 PM
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does being selective mean you make people circus monkeys? Lets say on average, women play 5 games, and men play 3 games. how does that mean you were made to jump through hoops? the complete idiot is the one that always frames interactions with women as if they themselves never have any agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:07 PM
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they dont convey the ideas very well. hoops and friendzone are both constantly moving targets. the definitions change for the convenience of the speaker to make themselves seem more victimized.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:51 AM
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if you dont like chasing, why would you be around someone who insists you chase? youre never going to provide the chase she wants thinking of it as a chore. everyone has hoops. its on you if theyre obvious, honest, you hate them YET you chose to try anyway. its the terminology that just sounds pathetic. same with the friendzone. you cant be friendzoned if shes leading you on. theres no clear zone if shes leading you on. you can only be friendzoned if she says she thinks of you only as friends. “…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:09 AM
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or woman to woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:35 AM
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pretty sure everyone has this talk. even if the word “exclusivity” isnt used, theres some sort of talk. i dont think anyone walks around assuming you can call someone your boyfriend or girlfriend when you introduce them. i do think not giving someone you like the benefit of the doubt and putting other people on hold is in bad taste, but you cant know the other person really feels the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:34 AM
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if its a pattern, that would make sense. but many of the same people who say that wont even look for a pattern, just the one lone action, thats probably happening before there is much of a pattern to even observe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:24 AM
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the one you quoted
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:55 AM
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i dont get how the same people who say “dont listen to what she says, watch what she does” can be so judgemental when it comes to a singular action? the whole point of that is to not simply take things at face value. forming all your opinions based on a singular action, like having or not having sex on x numbered date, is really no better than listening to what she says. it really doesnt make sense to just watch one thing does, then close your eyes and forget about everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:50 AM
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to illustrate that point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:42 AM
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what are these hoops? anytime i hear people talk about it, it sounds really whiny. every relationship of every type has some hoops. you need to jump through hoops for friends, family, anyone. if youre not willing to, just dont form any relationships. only associate with any other human on a strict, one time basis, with pre-agreed upon terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:32 AM
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isnt it a common saying here that if she isnt into you right away, shes just not into you? she avoided someone she wasnt into
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:25 AM
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theyre both better off really
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:09 PM
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its not appropriate in most settings. but privately, i would not mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:04 PM
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i judge people who are really into kinks, especially elaborate ones. like need them, do them all the time. it feels wrong. if youre not mixing in vanilla just for simple convenience there could be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:35 AM
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never romantic. one girl i was friends with for years really wanted to have sex all of a sudden.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:30 AM
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a little prudish, afraid of new things sometimes, possibly overly single minded with women; sits on/clings to crushes for a long time before saying anything. i find it hard to believe that many women gravitate towards you but NEVER see you sexually. even if youre below average, you must have caught someone in a moment, at some point, but just missed something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:23 AM
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more people misuse the just world fallacy. it may be true that bad things happening to you means youre a bad person is a fallacy. its not a fallacy that doing certain things increases the likelihood of good and bad things happening to you. saying being nice, and reasonably polite will be better for you than being rude and malicious is not a just world fallacy, thats just basic social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:40 PM
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begining of a trippy lovecraftian horror movie. she copies your mannerisms, and somehow her voice starts changing to sound more and more like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 05:29 AM
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this is not easy. most positions need education that licensing boards are picky about, so getting it from your home country may not count, or only counts if you also practiced for x number of years, which is time consuming. you may have to do some like internship related hours before being fully licensed, which can be hard to get sponsorships for, but at the same time, you cant legally do it without a sponsorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:08 PM
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i think that was maybe temporary? or was it just your country that is no longer allowed? i see its still a thing that exists https://www.usa.gov/green-card-lottery
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:04 PM
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is the greencard lottery a thing for people from your country?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:58 PM
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what youre seeing could just be representation. if youre just looking here, which group is more likely simply to just buy into dogmatic views without questioning? just because theres lets say 2 schools of dogma, leading to apparent diversity, it doesnt mean the actual wiring has much individuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:57 PM
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the non-immigrants in government that trump appointed are amazing? does the fact that the appointees are immigrants actually make them worse automatically? even if it does, id gamble on that than the wackadoos we know trump has and will appoint. it honestly doesnt matter who he appoints, trump could just as easily appoint an immigrant. he doesnt actually care. he cares that you do exactly what he wants. if you at all care about competence over obedience, youre jerome powell.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:41 PM
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yes. if the guy is doing all the child care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:49 PM
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How is someone THAT horny also that in need of the kink? Youd think a horny person would just take it any which way, even if the kink was her preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:32 PM
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maybe its just me and my type, but if someone said that to me, id be convinced shes into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:07 PM
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yikes. i wonder what you think of phantom thread
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:29 PM
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im really glad trump has to deal with the consequences of pulling out of the iran nuclear deal in his first term for basically no reason. even if he thought he could have gotten more, pulling out clearly had 0 benefit, what with them IMMINENTLY having nuclear weapons, if his own words are to be believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:25 PM
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you would rather not be dumped?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:08 PM
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today?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:49 PM
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thats kinda the presidents job, dont be influenced by insignificant shit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:58 PM
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i would argue vaginas differ more than dicks do by a significant amount. its significantly more anatomically complex than a dick. theres much more things that can be different. being able to comfortably take something isnt the end point you care about is it? its “satisfaction.” its not logical to assume male anatomy is so important to satisfaction, and female anatomy is just irrelevant. its also not logical to run with certain subjective preferences, but simply dismiss other peoples, just becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:47 PM
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thats not very logical. theres no way bigger is always better. there must be a max. what makes womens anatomies all the same, but men different? womens differences are easily dismissed but penis size is so variable and so important? people here have stated a varying degree of ideals, why do you simply trust some, and dismiss others?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:37 PM
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putting aside the subjectivity of “truly satisfying,” what here is the objective fact? are you saying most women have reported not being satisfied with an average penis? or that no woman can physically possibly be satisfied with an average penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:26 PM
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“being enough” is subjective. there is not even a way of measuring “enough” objectively. so personal anecdotes from other people count?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:17 PM
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how can a subjective experience ever be anything but personal?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:06 PM
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what else are you using
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:05 PM
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with your singular dick and like a few subjects, theres no logical way to arrive at an ideal size.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:02 PM
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so how does someone get to dickpill affirmation with their singular dick and what, a handful of subjects?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:58 PM
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how does one become dickpill affirming? have you experimented by somehow using different sized dicks on the same subjects?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:55 PM
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i know i have a replacement for this ideology. this ideology doesnt actually resolve, or even seek to resolve your listed reasons for it existing. a replacement thats better is easy. the only question is communicating it effectively, which im working out now. i dont follow gender wars or think of it as a gender war. just a manosphere loose kind of cult. im also primarily interested in this on an individual level, im not really concerned with social change. in that sense, id advocate for focusing…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:32 AM
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i think the highest upside choice is to treat her like a normal friend. do favors for her as a normal friend would. but people are emotional creatures so a little distance could be good too. edit: you said block her number lol. how is that not straight up cutting off contact
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:12 AM
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the best way to approach this is to not even think of the friendzone. there is no friendzone. you got rejected by a friend. you can: simp and hope she changes her mind stay friends. maybe meet another girl through her. have another person in your circle. cut off contact. the choice with the most upside is 2. 3 is ok but could have social consequences. 1 is pretty insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:04 AM
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i took one like freshman year. ill never understand the male gaze as a concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:53 AM
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omg dorohedoro is back after so many years
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:21 PM
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talking to for 6 months???! i also like that honeymoon phase so its kinda just an irresistible urge also if i like her, so to be perfectly honest, its not really some logical reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:19 PM
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i know if i like someone quickly. promising not to meet other people for the purpose of fucking is also quite easy since i dont like the process of getting that first date anyway. youre not really committing anything material, just a verbal promise that can be cancelled at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:07 PM
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allies already were reticent to even help the US do the work for them, like using their air bases. clearly, they see the US as toxic. threatening to not help wont do anything, when they refused help. if they decide to act themselves, it will be in a way thats as distant from the us as possible, so pretending to leave wont change anything, but actually leaving might. bluffing the markets gives iran more leverage, makes no sense. they know they can hurt you just by not unconditionally surrendering…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 06:40 PM
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how is pretending to surrender bluffing? the opposite is a bluff. iunno how pretending to give up helps, other than insider trading
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:46 PM
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trade or acting school lol wtf, how are those two next to each other
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:58 PM
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thats also a platitude that is made fun of, either way. its not for others; it cant be for others, thats the point. it just throws in the idea that someone who is happy with themselves is easier to love than someone who is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:55 PM
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youre not wrong that its not totally necessary, but it is basically what youre suggesting lol. the phrase isnt “once you love yourself, someone will be guaranteed to love you.” clearly, the important part is the just love yourself part.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:38 PM
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I feel like the pills really just reword and rehash the very memes they make fun of. “you need to love yourself before you can be loved by someone else.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:23 PM
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Even then i don’t see how your first and last example make sense. In 1, the man is probably a virgin, or someone with a low n count. Yet he still prefers hookups. The last one seems to specifically be about whether virginity matters, or hookup-virginity matters, so by nature, the conclusion isn’t self evident.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:57 PM
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I don’t see how referencing what people say here makes it self evident. this place isn’t exactly representative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:48 PM
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Its weird because it takes a certain amount of insight and self awareness to make a joke about it… why not just do it at that point? I should just focus on myself and my own life. This jadedness is just not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:03 PM
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ive never met anyone irl like this. its easier to make makeup look magical when you control the exact angle and lighting in which you are seen. in the wild a lot of the magic wont work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:49 AM
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sounds freudian
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:12 AM
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in hindsight, even that angela merkel seizure looking reaction to his shoulder rub seems charming. thats where were at.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:53 PM
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https://youtu.be/RVvrNJHiuj8 pinnacle of rizz
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:35 PM
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GW Bush, not the most popular president around the world, probably below average statesman as far as presidents go, got tony blair to commit political suicide to join in on the war on iraq for no easily apparent short term reason. now we can’t even convince allied countries to please let us land a few planes to help with an effort to open a trade route that they themselves desperately need, just because being too buddy buddy with us may be toxic. how great is america now?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:21 PM
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pete hegseth is like a standard corpo c suite guy who spins everything as success and perseverates on some largely pointless kpis, crossed with a cartoon villain that gushes about killing and death.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:09 PM
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i mean, worth a shot i guess. why not. go try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:02 PM
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most accurate in what sense? compared to what? like what are comparable data points that its better than? i imagine any list of comparable data points all suck at actually predicting anything. just because the zip code is better than lets say, the race of the parents, it can still be shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:56 PM
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we can barely guess outcomes accurately with much more information than that. think of how much data sports teams have when drafting players. they still arent amazing at predicting success. just because something is more prevalent in a certain population, doesnt mean you can use that information with much predictive certainty. that generic at a glance stuff isnt very useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:41 PM
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free will can exist with biases. no one makes choices from a point of perfect neutrality, but they can still choose, and on any given day, the same person can easily make different choices when presented with a similar situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:07 PM
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i have both but before that son, mainly because of fear of the unknown, and scary stories about other peoples teen or preteen girls
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:05 PM
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not what i was expecting, but i only meant to suggest maybe youre barking up the wrong tree
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:48 PM
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u looking for friends here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:42 PM
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there could be plenty of internal stuff going on, but i just chose things that were easy to see for an outsider. i would guess someone similar, who actively avoids women to the point of looking like disdain, and never gets along with any women has some misogynistic stuff going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:41 PM
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i think so. its not really reasonable at that point. plus she never seems to like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:10 PM
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ok but just in terms of semantics, if an exclusionist is discriminatory, why would a male exclusionist not just be included in “misandry?” why does a term that describes something discriminatory not exist when you acknowledge the discrimination does?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:26 AM
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would an asian exclusionist not be racist
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:19 AM
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its both. but common basically means socially acceptable. if its common, you get fewer questions, more simple acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:15 AM
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how much weirder would a couple with a woman 20 years older be than a man 20 years older? how much more off putting? how much more questionable? its relevant to Society loves peddling the lie society peddles the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:13 AM
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i think an older woman with a younger man is the less socially acceptable age gap relationship by miles.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:05 AM
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how would you describe someone who doesnt like to associate with men. will always choose female doctors, dentists, or teachers for themselves and any family members and always seems to be either annoyed with or scared of their male coworkers?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:02 AM
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i hate how its whimsical or fateful when its convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:30 PM
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millenials had fewer sexual partners than previous generations tho
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:27 PM
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would it be reasonable for someone to look at your posts, and say “see, this is why i hate indians?”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:42 PM
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anyone can do it. its not a woman thing. people can judge other people, usually much more accurately than random guessing. that doesnt mean its 100% accurate, or that it can be done at a glance. i dont know what specifics you’re looking for, but when making similar judgements about other traits in people, you would probably need at least several observations before you could be confident. Its never taken me a horribly long time to figure out someone was racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:33 AM
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cant you batch it to some degree. do you have to cook every night
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:54 AM
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Do it at his house. What is meal prepping for you? Just chopping some raw venison?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:42 PM
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it doesn’t have NOTHING to do with being nice or sweet, that’s like, a potential route. it doesn’t hinge on it, but i don’t see how that’s some lie you’ve been fed. my point is that you can read that even in its name, in its origin, in its rhetoric, it was always some version of “you stand no chance unless…” defeatist, victim, butthurt kind of idea. its just slightly more defeatist and butthurt now than it used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:51 AM
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what would learning charisma have to do with swallowing some grossly uncomfortable truth that the whole world is an illusion or a lie? that’s where the “red pill” name comes from
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:10 AM
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anything related to fate, or destiny. anything related to letting stuff come to you i mostly disagree with. its good not to be desperate but you should be working to put yourself in a good position.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 07:02 PM
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why would a feminist Reddit sub be reflective of how most people would understand the term? its not because women as individuals are powerless or blameless. the general people out there, not those feminists subs, arent seeking to portray women as victims. theyre just not thinking about femininity at all. its because being feminine is seen as unimportant. femininity only exists as a contrast to masculinity, but the opposite isnt true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:22 PM
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i dont think its a clear cut example. if your grandpa said it, people would say thats toxic masculinity? the context matters. if its said to appear more masculine sure. the equivalent example you have would probably be called a pick me. your grandma saying it, would similarly not be called that, but someone younger might. id argue its NOT called toxic femininity because theres no focus on femininity. its just not important. being toxic to appear masculine is called toxic masculinity, but being t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:04 PM
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yeah… they use different terms…just like how women being toxic also has different terms. if the implied cause is some gender based thing in society, it would make sense that terms used for both men and women are similar, since we live in the same society. misogyny, patriarchy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:42 PM
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its dead enough already though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:34 PM
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why would casual sex need to be used as a proxy for those things…just say someone confident, attractive and charismatic will be successful? men who are less than all of those things have had casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:31 PM
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that used definition doesnt reflect how most people use it. just some weird sub group that most people arent listening to, which my example illustrates. even though violent crime is more masculine than feminine, no one would say violent crime in general is toxic masculinity. it should be one of the easiest things to call that if most people actually used it as a proxy for men bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:27 PM
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what if one of your girlfriends worshipped you. adored you, wanted to rip your clothes off all the time, would you still be unsuccessful?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:07 PM
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i think thats generally how its used. i didnt look up a dictionary definition. specific people may take a much more blaming tone but i dont think that reflects what most people mean. men commit more violent crime than women. it would be pretty weird to describe violent crime generally as toxic masculinity, unless there is some really special context.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:05 PM
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i honestly dont know exactly what toxic masculinity is, but it seems to be less about masculine stuff being inherently toxic, and more about how the need to appear masculine results in toxicity. women can easily be equally toxic, but probably not in this specific way. you could say both the womens behavior you described AND toxic masculinity is the result of the same internalized misogyny or social pressure or whatever. its hard to imagine theyre not directly related.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:40 PM
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i dont see how this results in hypergamy as its used here. if you replace “cool impressive stuff” with generic masculine traits that wouldnt be hypergamous. cool and impressive here would be subjectively defined by women. women are more into masculine traits than men are, so cool and impressive here could easily be things men tend to do more than women. depending on how youre looking at cool and impressive, this could easily be the same as saying women are more attracted to male tendencies than …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:04 PM
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i think in hindsight, theyll be perfectly fine doing a few more puzzles by themselves, or with siblings, a couple fewer with you. young kids are extremely overwhelming though. grandparents can be huge too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:51 PM
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If they get married, that’s also her credit card debt
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:47 PM
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a wife is just a long term fwb
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 09:28 PM
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never, no one requested
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 07:29 PM
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im having trouble understanding anything here…you mean better late than never? how is 20s late?! do you mean 30s or 40s?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 05:40 PM
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dunno what youre talking about. but i posted before about similar topics, and some people did casually dismiss really liking someone in a relationship without any sexual attraction as easy; this person could just enjoy you as a person. i just want to know how far it can go to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 05:37 PM
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if we know this other person isnt your child, and youre not related? would it be more likely than not theres also a physical relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:35 PM
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dogs are genetically bred, artificially selected to behave that way. would a person who treats someone else like a dog treats their owner not be more likely to have something physical happening? it sounds kinky at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:34 PM
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For people who believe you can be really loved in a relationship without much sexual attraction, how independent is it? If someone fawns over you, cherishes any gifts you give, even cards, and easily accepts any olive branch you extend during disagreements, is that at least a strong sign that theres also sexual attraction? or are they entirely independent, and she can like you that much without any sexual attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:15 PM
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invoking destiny or fate for relationships is terrifying. if i happen to want to break up, im defying god, defying the universe? thats too much pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:38 PM
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iunno how this can be the majority, something is going very wrong lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:38 PM
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huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:26 PM
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are you suggesting the former view is mostly held by men? i feel like thats not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:52 PM
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those are also symptoms of having no purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:38 AM
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if you wanted to take out a loan for any reason, but lets say an investment, like another house, a house will serve as better collateral than almost any other asset. you can borrow more, and at a lower rate. you may not need it, but its uniquely valuable in that sense. property tax increases arent as arbitrary as rent increases. most local governments have a lot of rules about how that can increase, and they dont increase within an FY, similar to the term of a lease. but between leases, and betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:38 AM
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According to banks you do. So they’ll let you use it as collateral for lower interest loans than other assets used as collateral. You also pay property taxes when you pay rent, basically, but rather than ending up without an asset if you fail to pay, you’re guaranteed to end up without an asset no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:14 PM
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i think its funny that bluepill is the emotional thing here? not the pill that thinks the world has lied to them their entire lives, that an entire gender is incapable of love? the red pill screams “who hurt you bro?”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:17 PM
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that is literally the implication. theres no other way to read those words. its even more annoying when they then run away from the implication, while clearly implying it. shouting out fathers while posting randos who may not be fathers is incongruent. as a father, i know this post wasn’t made by a father, with an agenda that has nothing really to do with fathers. so despite me being the subject of that post (i dont work construction but did go through some crazy conditions during covid), i thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:12 PM
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you would never give the same grace to the opposite statement. its phrased stupidly. i wouldnt. but at least include some implication theyre actually mothers. like posting a picture of a random woman in an office isnt going to connect the dots. everyone works. parents work AND are parents. this is the unique feature worth noting, doing both. even as a STAP, at least when the kids are very young.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:34 PM
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A. It’s a dumb claim. It’s NEVER less? B. A fairly irrelevant image? Do they all even have kids?! There’s nothing inherently fatherly about working. Non fathers also work. Like why not use one of those Olympic dads crying or squirming watching their kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:14 PM
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im specifically saying for dating it doesnt, if you look at it long term. it is front loaded, that doesnt make it inherently more important. you can be a dumbass regardless of how many people think youre good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:52 PM
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yeah, they can coexist, im just saying it doesnt trump other traits that you could be blessed with or not outright. its not worth the singular focus people here put on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:11 PM
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ew
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:37 AM
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so you get rich as a country, people are both culturally and monetarily wealthy, expected to have lots of schooling, activities, travel, etc, so it becomes very expensive to have kids, and now you may have a population crisis. but ergggg, the ethnic purity, how can we be ethnically pure, but also not let immigrants in to fill in the literal first world problems? such a toughie. edit: is this some indian psyop to stop the brain drain lol? get people in wealthy countries to hate immigrants?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:09 PM
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why should they care about your opinion? by extension, why should anyone say anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:24 PM
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if you look at it from a solipsistic perspective, your legacy is basically only your own knowledge and experiences, youre going to die anyway, but youll have a much greater wealth of experiences and knowledge if you die later.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:18 PM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:11 PM
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these privileges are a bit overblown. having clear goals, a good eye while being average probably gets better results than having no clear goals, poorer judgement, while being extremely attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:24 AM
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why get married
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:59 PM
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have an impact isn’t the same as entirely determined by
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:04 AM
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tf, the lexapro killed her libido, but she is having all of this experimental sex, has tried “everything” and enjoys watching him masturbate in just 4 months? having long conversations about sex at that point is very bad, but i think everyone should appreciate her determination for that creampie.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:58 AM
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It’s satire, and the audience are the bad guys
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:28 AM
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It’s not a psyop, it’s the point of marriage. MAD. If you put someone through school, or if you move to some random place quitting your nice job, just for this person, you better hope their life gets wrecked if they dump you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:49 AM
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The idea of marriage in general. Dunno their situation but may apply and may be the reason she isn’t just leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:10 AM
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Mutually assured destruction. (I mean, there should be mutual benefit in there too)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:24 PM
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It’s more MAD than sunk cost
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:10 PM
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i thought jimmy carter would die anyday for like 3 years before he actually died
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:24 PM
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if you take away the petulant undertone, i think a lot of the advice related to before a relationship really gets anywhere is good. but there is one extremely detrimental suggestion about how you need to assume women are just using you as a monkey bar, and you have to essentially deceive them at a consistent cadence that you are in fact the best monkey bar. as soon as you drop the charade, she goes byebye. this is horrible advice, and is really not a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:08 PM
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the analogy is too good now. it was all fun and games until they made linkedin. now you have to post a bunch of stupid bullshit on linkedin to land an interview. before, you did have to reduce yourself to an elevator pitch at a conference, and a page or 2 of text in your resume. now youre reduced even further to the letters next to your name and your pfp.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:36 PM
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i dont think men barge into grandmas too often
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:04 PM
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what do you mean “see?” like date? or be pleasant coworkers or friends with? i think most men can be pleasant coworkers with people who would be unfuckable to them. lets say, someone who is married already, or a much older woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:57 PM
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not everyone can be fuckable, so people wont be trying to fuck the ones they dont think are fuckable? isnt that just how fucking works? are you saying those men will refuse to interact with unfuckable women whatsoever? i feel like thats not that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:52 PM
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why is the “invisible” group misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:38 PM
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the tablet is probably less loud than the kid would be
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:38 PM
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i never said 6 or 7. lets say 4. 4 people in 3 years isnt insane. maybe its more than average? but its not outside the realm of normal. the important part is that it was “free.” they werent defined relationships. so her total n at 23 before meeting you is 5, which seems well within normal. what makes it stupid or baggage inducing? she acted in a way that made sense given her goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:32 PM
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saying breeding is a kink is kinda like saying eating is an addiction
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:40 AM
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that seemed less obvious to me. i thought it was about capitalism but i only watched it once and it wasnt as memorable to me as american psycho
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:08 AM
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the movie is quite obvious though. he has a conniption from the texture of business cards lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:32 PM
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dunno, but it seems like the group that treats SMV and RMV like an established theory with predictive value, talks about a pussy cartel, and considers being in a relationship as submitting a “payment” should probably not be saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:29 PM
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if you voted for him, you are at least a tiny bit responsible, since you do have some agency there. you cant be entirely a product of your environment. on a moment to moment level, you must be able to do things that better or worsen yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:42 PM
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you qualified the relationship guy with “normal looking” which isnt a compliment. you qualified the hookup guy with compliments. if you switched up those qualifiers, which one sounds more complimentary?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:28 PM
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youre right, i dont care. no amount of youtube comments would be enough, certainly. i would care, if i felt it was important. no documentaries need to be made about this. documentaries are made about males suffering abuse, and other, more worthy topics about men though. its just funny thats not the type of thing people who cry about misandry care about, actual misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:29 PM
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ragebait is the video itself. getting attention by being intentionally inflammatory. she even acknowledges it in a tongue in cheek way at the beginning when she says shes being accused of only caring about money, she calls it ridiculous with a little camera zoom, then reads a sponsor thing. youtube comments are full of crazy shit is my point. if i looked at the world and judged it based on the youtube comments i see, i would think most people are some form of genocidal. ethnic cleansing must be …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:13 PM
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crazy shit exists on the internet. do you think its actually widespread? do you routinely hear people saying male suicide rate should be higher actually, or men serve no purpose other than to die alone? i think those were 2 quotes from posts in the video. i also dont get why the obvious rage bait requires so much backlash, but someone here posting how little boys are horrible, sexually aggressive, and how all teachers know this, gets no reaction in this place which you would think has a high con…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:52 PM
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holy shit 2 sets of twins. that is like the nightmare for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:38 PM
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ok you are the man in the hypothetical though. you cant know if youre worse or not. would you assume youre worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:34 PM
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im talking about my hypothetical, at 23. youre talking about random reddit posts. why would a 23 year old settle for less? theres no reason to assume that. if i were to guess which period of life she settled more for, id guess 18-21, not 21-now. if a woman didnt want kids, but had the same history as this one in the hypothetical, but instead of only wanting relationships at 23, she doesnt want a relationship at all. only wants something casual since she just got out of a relationship. would she …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:26 PM
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where did anyone say shes with worse men. what are you reading?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:07 PM
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theres 0 reason to believe thats happening, since she’s 23 and has plenty of time. she is now only interested in relationships, and nothing casual. she hasn’t said anything about how that changes any of her other standards. if anything, shes probably adopting more standards now, whereas before, she knew she was never having kids at that age, and could settle for less, be less picky, and just fall into convenience more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:35 PM
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where is that anywhere in my post. shes 23, why would she turn up with an uggo?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:26 PM
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i have seen all of these things, and it’s a predictable mob reaction to each of these topics. someone talks about how little boys are sexually aggressive, how they’re cruel and need girls to do well in school, and no one makes a peep. i don’t think the tax money transfer is a logical way to look at it if you’re talking about welfare, since for single parents, the money is for the child. you could look at it in reverse; child support is underpaid more often than not, which would mean your tax dol…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:14 PM
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in my example do you mean 18-21? she was in an ltr at 21. i don’t see why she can’t find someone she has genuine attraction for at 23, compared to 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:05 PM
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the man could be doing the same. even here, i think the man probably benefits more socially from being in a relationship than a woman. i don’t think your example here applies because that is about marriage, which is much, much, much, MUCH higher in terms of commitment. any old relationship is mostly promising not to have sex with others and getting along. since a relationship is such a low degree of commitment, and one of the only commitments is monogamy, if women have casual sex and its so easy…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:02 PM
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dont people here routinely defend this same double standard, just backwards?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:06 PM
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ive never implied anything about women in general
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:43 AM
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i don’t get the misandry awareness gang here. you’re triggered by the remote possibility of a draft, or some random lilith post, but someone casually talks about how little boys are sexually aggressive and cruel, at least in part by their very nature, how every credible person they know also knows these facts, and it’s just crickets.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:40 AM
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i know we cant compete with pad grapao, khao mun gai or laab, but at least the expresso martini looks good
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:51 PM
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https://youtu.be/4ydTXGLOeU8?t=481&si=bXULHqupkENYL80T i had a thought at one point. like what if the neocons are actually right about iran? what if it turns out it would actually be worth regime change because there was no other way to prevent a nuclear iran and that ended up being the end of the world? then i listen to john boltons plan and i snap out of it immediately. the magical thinking is hilarious, and they never learn a single thing. were going to bomb iran into hating each other, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:38 PM
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you cant determine. guys are different from each other. how do you know which one she preferred? she cant meet better guys at a later time? but for this excercise, youll never meet them, you just vaguely know they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:10 PM
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she may not be settling, she gave herself plenty of time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:48 PM
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its still a good reference. think of it as a museum then. the other pills have no reference. especially bluepill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:30 PM
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how far does the “well, she did it for free for someone else” logic extend? lets say there is a woman who has always wanted kids. she knew she didnt want to have those kids at a very young age, so between 18-21 or so she kinda just did whatever. had some casual sex, situationships, nothing really stuck. at 21 she got into an ltr but it ended by 23, didnt work out, their goals in life werent compatible, whatever. so youre meeting her at 23. she has no interest in casual relationships, due to her …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:29 PM
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the red pill has a sub. i think everything else is kinda bogus and strawman of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:17 PM
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its at least as much about the quality as it is the quantity. nothing gets my blood boiling like when they eat nothing but white rice and refuse everything else, then want ice cream or chips. im convinced anyone who doesnt share my feelings must have little angel kids who just eat so well all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 06:15 PM
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theyre skinny as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 06:13 PM
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i know next to nothing about you, so obviously take what i say with a grain of salt. maybe the anxiety is an issue but i dont think the awkwardness is crippling, people can easily get away with that. if youre able to have girlfriends, i honestly dont think casual sex is that different. i would guess that a ton of relationships, if not most, start with sex before there is any indication of it being casual or not. maybe if you didnt fixate on the casual vs not casual aspect, it would help? just do…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:54 PM
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doesnt let you have sex in general? or casual sex? if its just casual sex, and youre decent looking, a lot of it is just circumstance. is every woman you know super well adjusted, and always in a relationship? thats not conducive to having casual sex, but also, no knock on you as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:41 PM
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i think you have this fixation over casual sex thats misplaced. people much, much, much worse looking than the guy you posted have been “chosen” for casual sex. i dont think its what you think it is. you can just be someone decent, unoffensive, available, easy, convenient, at a specific time and that could be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:37 PM
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nothing in this world affects my mood the way kids eating or not eating does. there is no feeling of relief stronger when theyre stuffing their face, and no sense of dread greater when they say theyre not hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:13 PM
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youd think the sexiest women then would be the ones with like a 6mo - 1yr old. i dont think it makes sense for a woman that will finally be able to have a baby like 1 or more years down the line to look really hot to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:05 PM
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ive never hit on a pregnant woman, but i think theres something really eye catching literally full of life about it; they look quite good. they look kinda dead when the baby is like 1 month old though. edit: also from a biological reproduction standpoint it makes 0 sense. since they cant get pregnant while pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:26 PM
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you can start before that though, why wait
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:22 PM
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congratulations
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:42 PM
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your whole life was a lie thats what i mean. most people dont view the world not being exactly as disney said like that. we all find out disney isnt real life. edit: also the “bluepill” here is the original strawman, so its kinda funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:31 PM
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im sure a good % of women who say they want kids are the same. you cant know what its like until it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:17 PM
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the redpill still sounds butthurt about it though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:15 PM
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naruto
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:41 PM
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no the main male characters all dont get korra, their initial interest. the handsome guy doesnt even get his next girl lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:40 PM
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legend of korra?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:36 PM
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Pretty sure this is ragebait, but i thinkoverall, chinese people date with a lot of pragmatism and materialism relative to westerners. id imagine caring that the guy owns a house in shanghai and a car would mean they care at least a little less about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:15 PM
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actually, its very not sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:11 PM
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you are basically them. the pot calling the kettle black.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:33 AM
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Where is cheney tho. Also pretty much everyone wanted to bomb them at that time. Invading Iraq was very popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:03 AM
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Tbf, very few people in the world manage weight as strictly as he has to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 11:10 PM
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why is this unrealistic? they already generate frames and upscale in real time using ai.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:48 PM
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doesnt matter, had sex. still counts. i just had sexxxxxx.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:40 PM
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her intent matters, since the question is about whether she finds you attractive. if we are following the “watch what she does, not what she says” rule, employing a strategy to have more sex would at least indicate a higher level of attraction than barely caring if you never have sex again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:20 PM
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how is usa crime free. we are the crimiest developed country. even developing countries think usa can be dangerous, like china.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:16 PM
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gen x divorced at higher rates than millenials. maybe early for gen z but it seems like the trend is staying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:15 PM
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a pinky promise that will allow her to have more sex with you. its a gambit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:08 PM
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commitment here is just a pinky promise to not have sex with someone else before telling her. what about that sounds unhappy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:58 PM
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i dont see why thats a problem, pretty sure thats not reflective of an average relationship. tbh my guess is that average relationships start where the 2 people have sex before any kind of verbal commitment, so i think i made woman b more prudish than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:56 PM
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its not unquestionable. its pretty self evident. that was the intent. where does it say shes not happily having sex with you? as far as you can tell they enjoy sex with you equally. b also cares to prevent you from not having sex with her, whereas a doesnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:44 PM
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why does having an opinion on my own hypothetical make it worthless? pretty sure anyone that poses one starts with an opinion. it isnt the only way to measure how attracted someone is. its a very good and self explanatory one though. if attraction is how much they want to have sex with you, how often they happily have sex with you, and the effort they put in to continue to have sex with you at a very high frequency is a good indicator of that. if you think there is a better way to represent how …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:20 PM
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I posted this hypothetical yesterday and asked which woman found you more attractive. the answers were 50/50, but i think it should be fairly obvious its woman B. Woman A was happy to keep it casual, and didnt need commitment. she doesnt ask about your sex life outside of her, but knows you are at least trying to have sex with other people, if you arent currently. She meets you occasionally, and despite knowing you could be having sex with other women, shes perfectly able to enjoy a movie or oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:38 PM
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im gonna choose not to believe it for now
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:35 AM
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how far have you gotten?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:34 AM
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they cant be totally different. if there is a halo effect, like people here say, shes much more likely to like spending time with you if she is attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:53 AM
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yeah, to her, its a huge contract. shes trying to spend all this time with you. shes vetting each of your female friends, and shes curating her social media in a way that prominently features you (with the clear implication that youre happy with her). shes deeply invested, and applies those restrictions to protect that investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:56 AM
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she is asking more of you, but does that mean she finds you LESS attractive? the social proof is her way of making sure fewer people see you as an option, and making sure youre in an awkward situation if you happen to have sex with someone else without breaking it off with her first. would someone who found you LESS attractive put this effort in? do you think she wants to spend more time with you because shes LESS attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:36 AM
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relationships end up being more than that, but you initially committing to labeling the relationship is basically just that. not having sex with others was the only condition to her having sex with you. she wants more from you than that eventually, but at that point youve had sex countless times already. i dont agree that its a zero sum game in terms of conditions; if youre a promoter, your most valued clients arent always on the least restrictive contracts. sports teams try to sign their best p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:27 AM
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the condition for sex is mostly exclusive rights to use you for sex. other requirements like going to fancy restaurants on rare occasion and posting on social media are mostly to broadcast that claim. wouldnt you think someone who wants to deny every other woman the opportunity to have sex with you found you more attractive than someone who booty calls you from time to time?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:03 AM
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why A more than B?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 12:53 AM
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based on the logic of this thread, its unlikely that you can convince a promiscuous woman to commit just by having sex with her. promiscuous women are size queens, quick to deadbedroom you, or are otherwise more likely to be very unimpressed by you, and not be attached to you, supposedly. or if shes somehow does agree to a relationship, she will just dump you shortly after. if she us promiscuous, her time spent being faithful to you, even if short, was worth more to her than your time spent bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 12:28 AM
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lets say youve had sex with these 2 women at different points in your life. Woman A was happy to keep it casual, and didnt need commitment. she doesnt ask about your sex life outside of her, but knows you are at least trying to have sex with other people, if you arent currently. She meets you occasionally, and despite knowing you could be having sex with other women, shes perfectly able to enjoy a movie or other inexpensive activities before/between/after having sex. She only hits you up sometim…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 12:05 AM
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youre maybe in less danger of murder, but the underlying problem of women caring infinitely more about the kid they popped out vs the kid that popped out of some other coochie is gonna be the same. youre also taking away the king level of resources…which makes the cohesion even worse. less violence, but more discord. you definitely have to worry about being backstabbed. if you devote your resources to helping a newborn and the mom, while you have a 4 yr old, youre siphoning money from your own k…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:41 PM
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but like i said, its harder now than ever before. humans are way more saturated. raising a child is more expensive than ever. harems are rife with murder and other backstabby actions. you were probably safer as a random child of a 1 wife couple than the child of a concubine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:16 PM
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maybe thats possible if it was well coordinated, and the women were deeply committed to their friends, willing to sacrifice a huge portion of their time and money for other kids, but we arent built like that. im guessing kings with a harem had fewer concubines helping each others kids than hurting or killing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:07 PM
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i dont get how this works from a gay guy. if males are dogs to be leashed, and youre holding his leash, who holds yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:59 PM
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its more purposeful than ever. its exceedingly difficult to raise human kids. their female friends raising kids for them means they themselves wont be able to have kids as easily. old people cant retire anymore so they cant help that much. alternatively, they can get state help, which comes from your pocket.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:56 PM
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I’m looking at it from the pov of many people here, who complain how easy it is for women to have sex whenever they want. If that’s true, she’s giving up way more than you just by promising not to fuck other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:57 PM
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would a slut give up her being a slut, given thats her baseline preference, for someone she was more or less attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:36 PM
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your opinion on american schools is from propaganda about something you have no first or even second hand knowledge of. your critique isnt even something tangible, just purely emotional. what would you call that if not brainwashing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:50 PM
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lol…2021 you mean?! you really have no clue what youre saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:46 PM
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youre some guy in india accusing american schools of teaching kids to be feminine or some shit. where is this brainwashing coming from if all these spaces are “alt-left?” youre obviously not getting these opinions from your own knowledge on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:42 PM
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something is very wrong with your timeline lol wtf https://thehill.com/homenews/news/526461-hhs-scraps-celebrity-covid-19-ad-campaign-aimed-at-defeating-despair/ https://lamag.com/pop-culture/psa-trump-billie-eilish/ trump wasted an ass load of money because he couldnt find enough celebrities that didnt like obama and were against gay rights…for a covid mask related psa…lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:38 PM
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3-4. maybe 2 if we knew each other to some degree before.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:06 PM
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i tended to ask to label the relationship as boyfriend/girlfriend pretty fast, but to me, thats not particularly serious. thats still a step away from meeting friends, which is like miles away from meeting parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:00 PM
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so if its much easier for women to have casual sex whenever they want, how is being in a relationship with a woman not a higher indication of her attraction towards you? for a relationship, she is giving up non-monagamy, and you are giving up non-monogamy. except her non-monagamy is worth more because she is a woman. in order to be in a relationship with you, she has to give up something of much greater value than you do. for this idea, lets say almost everything else is the same. in the relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:31 PM
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what if she is your age? is there any allowance for age related differences between her first boyfriend at 20?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:57 PM
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i think this should be aspirational
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:58 AM
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just put in the appropriate amount of effort. i dont see how thats a reason to skip a screening. if you like him you can even surprise him for the next presumably non-coffee date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:17 AM
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a lot of redpill advice isnt funtionally different from the “bluepill” cliches they make fun of. dont put pussy on a pedestal = treat women like people. i think this equivalence is particularly ironic because by focusing on female nature, and taking a red pill ala the matrix, shattering your world view in order to comport your behavior to female nature is putting pussy on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:11 AM
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i think only around the time theyre born. that was some traumatic shit. give them a few hours or a day and they look much nicer imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:29 PM
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is she like 30? she doesnt have some super extensive history of chastity. more recent behavior is always going to be more relevant than behavior in the deep past, so given how easy it is, and her already having done it, we can guess she will do it again. any girl who routinely has casual sex was a virgin at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:10 PM
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its likely true because youre somehow having casual sex with that virgin. shes not your average virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:49 PM
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its a matter of (short) time before she has sex with others because its so easy, and youre having casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:16 PM
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in every scenario ive mentioned she sexually desires you. she willingly has sex with you, and youre not paying her or offering her anything nearly significant enough to be some quid pro quo thing. but its casual so shes not loyal. in that case, you either can do none of the things i mentioned above and have sex with her more than once, or only have sex with her once, or else youve been cucked? thats just an extremely strict definition of casual lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:03 AM
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so to not get cucked during casual sex you have to be exactly like platonic friends except the sex. you cant have pillow talk. you cant be making breakfast for them. you cant text them any more than a regular friend unless its about sex. you cant have them stay over, cant loan them your clothes, etc. cuz platonic friends wouldnt do that? if you do any of that, youre cucked. its over,
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:43 AM
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you said the thing that makes you a cuck in a relationship is that youre feeding her. so in a relationship where youre the one being fed, where youre being given much more, you cant get cucked under any circumstance?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:28 AM
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so you cant get cucked if youre in a relationship, but youre taking more than you give? youre the one being fed. its impossible. even if she cheats on you, has sex with a guy the same day she has sex with you (she has more enthusiastic sex with the other guy) youre not getting cucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:14 AM
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casual sex with a virgin is kinda crazy, but lets say you find it. its still super easy for her to have sex with other people so…youre getting cucked in short order? or do you virgin hop and just have sex casually with them once each?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:09 AM
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no. but its no less difficult for women to get what they want, ultimately. happily ever after doesnt exist, and trying to find something youre truly content with isnt easy for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:05 AM
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the contradiction is whats funny. no one is saying casual sex is getting cucked. but thats the natural conclusion of their other beliefs. is the word “casual” just some magic label that can wash cuckery away?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:04 AM
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MANY people here believe a person youre having sex with having sex with someone else is you getting cucked. if you phrase it exactly like that. if you ask “is casual sex the same as getting cucked?” ofc theyd say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:49 AM
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I feel like a good amount of people here believe all of the following: sex is very easy for women to obtain, whenever they please. the game is rigged. having sex with a non-virgin is cuck adjacent. someone youre having sex with also having sex with other men is outright cuckholding. having casual sex as a man is the best way to know youre attractive, and men must do it or theyre destined to be betabuxxed. but if all these things were true, your ideal lifestyle is getting cucked with decent frequ…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:13 AM
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this is not the definition of a gold digger. a gold digger is hunting the biggest pot of gold possible. wanting to trad wife it isnt the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:19 AM
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a coffee date is most definitely a screening. i dont get why some women would rather skip the screening. this is the best way to not waste time. its literally less time than a meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:16 AM
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suni lee, lots of filipinos.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:51 AM
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to me its more about attention. always needing compliments, assurances, gestures, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:49 AM
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Do you ever eat fries with no goopy stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:43 PM
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pretty sure most men have at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 07:26 PM
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You being desirable doesn’t have to do with whether your arrangement with someone is casual or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 07:05 PM
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What if she was frequently in the mood and it didn’t suck?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:58 PM
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Don’t marry a trophy wife
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:50 AM
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you have crushes? isnt that the opposite of plates?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:06 PM
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you never really know…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:30 PM
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you are so unredpill wtf lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:30 PM
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why would they be there to be compassionate? i dont know why that would be the default expectation. theres so many possibilities between showing theyre one of the good ones and being deeply compassionate. and men playing the victim are more meaningful to me than women doing the same. i have no real connection to a womans experience. i would like to avoid women who constantly complain, but what they say doesnt mean much to me. but i do have a connection with mens experiences. i have been lonely, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:28 PM
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and what would being not ok entail?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:36 PM
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they dont do worse in assessments. they dont score worse on gmat, lsat, sat…why would boys do worse just because there are less girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:35 PM
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its the same universe. its the same planet. just fly on a plane.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:11 PM
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being more competitive and violent in a relative sense does not make them lord of the flies cruel. and none of this is related to academic performance. the most absurd claim is that somehow the presence of some girls tempers whatever innate differences there are, which is crazy. despite these differences, men arent dumber than women, in aggregate. why would you expect boys to be dumber than girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:10 PM
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they exist. i even mentioned one. girls are better at reading. they dont exist as you define them. boys arent lord of the flies cruel while girls arent. girls dont check boys behavior and improve their performance academically, just by virtue of being nicer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:58 PM
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thats more convincing somehow? a few random ppd dudes who dont even talk about performance? what exactly are the trends youre talking about? you mention boys are lord of flies cruel, yes, i disagree with that lol. i disagree that whatever differences exist in academics are significantly affected by the presence of another gender in some behavior related way. if theyre affected at all, its just exposure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:54 PM
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like i said, your anecdotes are the teachers you know? that random post? how is that different?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:46 PM
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like i said, if you talk about being lonely, sans the victimhood, very few people will be defining that experience. and if like 5 people do, who cares? most of the readers of your post probably didnt care about that part of it. it didnt look like any response addressed that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:33 PM
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What is with your fixation on performative males…this has nothing to do with that? Would it be weird if that comment was written by a woman? I mean it easily could have been. I think some of the content in that post could get compassion across the board. But where he puts the blame, and how he frames the issue kills it. For anyone, males, females, performative, not performative whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:22 PM
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We aren’t seeing this. Maybe we see a few of the same facts, but your interpretation of those facts are totally different. Your interpretation of the truth is probably the issue. In your post you suggest men need sex more, but you also say being expected to take initiative is a problem. This makes no sense. You frame the whole issue around women defining your experience, who is doing that? If they are, who cares? How is that remotely relevant compared to the actual feeling of being lonely itself…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:18 PM
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my point is you with your post brought it upon yourself, and that its not just leftists who would feel the same way. maybe he shouldnt have called you an incel because that could have been a leap? but the general emotional reaction is just from your content. i highlighted it because thats what you asked. if i comprehend why the mainstream hates these ideas. and i do. you maybe are unjustly lumped in with other people because of the pill things, but even if they didnt exist, people would still pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:52 PM
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i promise if someone posts on reddit about being a wife beater, the hate will be universal. even criminals hate wife beaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:33 PM
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we are not on the same page. the thing that reminds people of incels isnt egalitarianism. if you just say “men shouldnt pay for first dates all the time” that would not be reminiscent of incels. the thing that reminds people of incels is the search for victimhood. like your post there already frames you as the victim of other people defining your experience. youre the victim of some sexual dynamic. at one point you say men desire sex more, but then lament the fact that you have to take initiativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:31 PM
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i dont hate you personally. i can see how pilled incels as a group get a lot of hate. they want empathy, but are unemapthetic to women to an extreme degree. they say women cant love men in some pure way, but then discuss SMV as if it were some mechanical fact of life. the hypocrisy is very eyerolly. an unfortunate feature of a place like reddit where you just read what someone writes is that if what you say reminds someone of what some group says, you lump them into that group. kinda like what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:11 PM
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why is this guy the face of “mainstream progressive?” im pretty sure hating incels is more unified than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:57 PM
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yes, so am i? i just know my kids the best so included them. but they learn in school, with both boy and girl classmates who i also know. i know their classmates from private classes, also both boys and girls. some of their classes are predominantly boys, and some are predominantly girls. I’m not seeing a significant learning environment difference in private classes with skewed genders. my sons worst scores are from comprehension in fictional literature. if he went to a school with mostly girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:46 PM
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He’s annoying and compulsive but neither of those things
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:56 PM
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Your link only compares mixed sex schools. I don’t see any consensus that all boys school kids do worse than boys at mixed schools. If anything, they do better, but it difficult to account for the biases there. Your conclusion to environment based whatever on your link is crazy though. The thing is about reading scores. Girls do better at reading. The easiest explanation is that with more girls, the teachers can advance reading faster, dragging the remaining boys up. The boys who are naturally b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:55 PM
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you used anecdotal accounts, pretty much entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:33 PM
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…why do you have it in for boys? im not seeing anything that says boys schools kids do worse. anecdotally my friends from all boys high schools when i was in college were fine, better than average, but private school and catholicism are other variables there. also my girl child is significantly more destructive than the boy. hes more disruptive, but she just is happy to break stuff she knows someone else worked hard on. the boy would never respect the shell in lord of the flies, and the girl is …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:18 PM
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iunno, sounded like they were friends. who is worried about a stranger being cold to them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:57 AM
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its not necessarily a bad thing, the jury is still out. but its not dating and not a relationship. if youre happy with AI, you probably should never get into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:58 AM
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Wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:26 PM
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How are you red pilled but getting friendzoned
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:22 PM
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Probably not, but even that isn’t an mmf threesome. Would you settle for cheating on a woman instead of that ffm threesome?!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:21 PM
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So basically most men would do an mmf threesome?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:59 PM
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How is that related to an mmf threesome lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:52 PM
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What’s a beta here? How is a beta and cuckhold the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:09 PM
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what tier of man would settle for an mmf threesome occasionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:36 PM
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y not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:14 PM
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steak tartare isnt super primal? its got all this finely chopped shit in it, and pickles. what kinda caveman minces shallots to that degree?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:32 PM
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i gave examples of equivalent things that men probably want from women. i extended the same favorable interpretation, one many people probably agree with here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:21 PM
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would you at least believe if thats the top thing they said they wanted, they want it more than someone who doesnt mention it? wouldnt seeing that be better than not seeing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:20 PM
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If youre just you in every way except youre either funny or not funny, being funny will definitely attract more women than being not funny. what are women triggered by? being calm and peaceful? if you met a woman who was triggered by the fact that any man could want that, would you think thats a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:03 PM
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like if they said the top thing they wanted in a guy was a great sense of humor. if you thought your humor was your saving grace, that you depended on it to keep attention, wouldnt this sound good to you? like you have a better shot than average?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:51 PM
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so its just the semantics of it, and the funniness has nothing to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:50 PM
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can you elaborate? theres a post just a few down that seems extremely triggered by the phrase “make me laugh.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:45 PM
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right but if they specifically SAID they were looking for that, why wouldnt your eyes light up? why would you be triggered?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:40 PM
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whether youre funny or not really depends on the listener, but thats not the point. what is so triggering about someone wanting one extremely mundane quality?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:39 PM
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i get 1 and 3, but i dont get why they make it sound like its so demeaning. someone wanting something from a partner doesnt reduce to them to only that thing. for 2, i think you really only need someone to laugh. they dont have to be funny themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:36 PM
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i dont get your point. you seem to be saying being a jester is your last best hope, so i dont get why you would be triggered. if being a jester is in my view my only hope, id be glad someone is looking for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:32 PM
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why are people so triggered by having to be funny? are you a jester because someone wants a funny partner? are you a therapist if someone wants someone calming? are you a sexdoll if someone wants sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:27 PM
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lol to the guy who thought bombing iran would scare russia and china. taiwans pants covered in shit right now. https://www.newsweek.com/iran-war-us-forced-take-thaad-defenses-asia-11652200 also china was VERY angry at the missile defense system being in south korea in the first place. they couldn’t be happier now. https://eastasiaforum.org/2022/11/18/thaad-bad-seoul-beijing-relations-under-moon/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:27 PM
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this isnt real life. in one way or another. it either doesnt represent reality because this guy is such a special case, or its an outright lie by the poster or the guy to the poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:56 AM
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What are you smoking
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:03 PM
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relationships are basically just exclusive fwbs. theres no real difference in commitment. do you want your fwb to fuck other people? no? congratulations, youre in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:16 PM
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have you not watched fox news? the media reflects the division in the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:25 PM
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i hate when people criticize something for being inherently political, when they themselves have made it a political issue. if you didnt make it political, their alignments would be more diverse. but you made their identity a political issue, which kinda narrows their choices by a lot. then you criticize their monolithic choices…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:07 PM
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cuckholds. they can be cuckholds knowing most people arent cuckholds
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:18 PM
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they are cucks, but most bluepillers arent. why would they subscribe to some AWALT idea, given that fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:45 PM
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i hate the idea of dating apps, and how much you have to sell yourself as a commodity. i guess its always to some extent been this way, but its never been worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:38 PM
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i dont get your claim here? are you saying most bluepillers ARE cucks or that they would hate being cucks? your original post suggested the latter. people can live in all kinds of relationships. calling a doomer a loser for being a doomer about some people living in those relationships isnt any kind of dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:34 PM
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i dont get this fear, you need to be a willing participant. your kid not being yours i get, but this makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:25 PM
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i dont understand your point? most bluepillers would die in that situation, but the people who practice it seem normal? wheres the dissonance? people can be fucked up in one way, and not in others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:23 PM
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the place where people talk about the destructive power of female nature, how women cant love other people, only what they do for them? i wonder why more 19-21 bmi women dont come here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:57 PM
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thats weird. i do think you have yourself to blame here for not showing your interest sooner, not out of obligation for her, but just for yourself not wasting the time. but thats pretty weird that you were apparently very close for six months and she didnt mention a boyfriend at all. you obviously arent obligated to stay friends with her; just do whats best for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:51 PM
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did you not know for that long she had a boyfriend the whole time or did she get one recently? if she got one recently, she probably has less time anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 05:52 PM
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before it was a pick up artist thing, it was a regular person thing. they got it from regular people doing the same things. if you are looking at all interactions from the perspective of the person on the receiving end, not knowing the exact intent, the majority of flirtatious insults, backhanded compliments, and things like that wouldn’t be emotional manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:51 PM
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describing it as emotional manipulation is a stretch. while that’s possible, i highly doubt that’s whats happening most of the time. i definitely think it “works.” i feel like most couples are able to poke fun at their significant others shortcomings. i find it romantic. it not only shows a degree of observation and attention that you can pick out an amusing shortcoming, but its an acceptance of that shortcoming also.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:30 PM
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Why can’t a 25 year old just do what he wants rather than follow some prescriptive order of operations before knowing his self worth? What a loser mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:33 PM
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if it was when you were 25, that doesnt mean it will be when youre 45, a bit overweight, maybe diabetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:16 PM
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why does it have to be in that order? probably better the other way around, since youd have more established personal boundaries, and youd know better when to bail, when youve maybe found someone else, or when maybe it should stop being casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:14 PM
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i dont see the hypocrisy. if someone suggests for someone to be confident, it doesnt mean the person suggesting that will automatically connect with any confident person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:08 PM
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theres no one social script. for any given person, you would have to follow what theyre comfortable with. a confident person wouldnt worry about the fact that one person didnt vibe with them and rejected them. there will be others.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:39 PM
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I don’t think therapy is bad, but I’m not a fan of doing an intervention like that unless you have a diagnosable issue. Like don’t just go cuz of mommy issues. I think most people are probably in that camp but it really seems like some are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:18 AM
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Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind Punch drunk love Pans labyrinth
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 12:35 AM
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in this case it is. knowing only the variable tells you much less than the observations you are using.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 02:09 AM
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yeah…meaning those are more important things to observe. whatever you observed is more important than actually knowing the n count. if you made those observations and came away with an impression, that impression would be more accurate than not making those observations, but knowing with absolute certainty the n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 02:05 AM
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what do you mean? being observant means you can judge someone without actually knowing their n count? hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:57 AM
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the earlier you try, the more likely you will not be told or just get lied to
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:30 AM
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in your own analogy, you cant know which ticket is which though in terms of n count. not only that, you actually can buy other tickets, where you can know the actual odds. you have the budget for a number of tickets. would you rather buy tickets with more knowable odds or less?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:25 AM
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if it doesnt make sense in retrospect, how would it make sense prospectively? if you can find some without regard to whether science says this one trait is good or bad, how would it save you time? on top of that, its not something you can know quickly, or at all really.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:54 PM
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relationships are bilaterally at will. you dont need to consent to being dumped, or rejected. just like for most jobs, your boss doesnt need to consent to you quitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:37 PM
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i hope he celebrates
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:19 PM
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the guy who thinks we should blindly follow israel in attacking iran with no actual succession plan, and israel threatening to kill all successors, essentially, with no end in sight, “more often” and thinks this somehow scares russia, who is actually in a war currently, against a country we could just support, but doing that would scare them less? or weakening a defensive alliance specifically meant to counter USSR, which has subsequently expanded to several russia border states isnt going to ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:13 PM
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do this one or two more times and taiwan will go byebye. it doesn’t scare china to be preoccupied. russia has already won with regards to america, since NATO is weakening and support for ukraine is fading, so i have no idea what you’re talking about. trump didn’t want to be world police, so he decided to be israels bitch instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:52 PM
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How is being fired or getting fined coercing, but withholding social aid only when having kids not? Most people can’t support themselves without a job. Most people can’t support themselves and a baby at the same time with no other help. Both equate to making your life hell for having a baby, just in different scenarios. The woman presumably has the husbands support in china, but will lose her job, maybe her husband will lose his too, making it impossible to support a child. A single parent not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:32 AM
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How is being fired or getting fined coercing, but withholding social aid only when having kids not? Most people can’t support themselves without a job. Most people can’t support themselves and a baby at the same time with no other help. Both equate to making your life hell for having a baby, just in different scenarios. The woman presumably has the husbands support in china, but will lose her job, maybe her husband will lose his too, making it impossible to support a child. A single parent not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:31 AM
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They used that, as well as seizure of property, denial of basic social services, all of the above. Nowhere in the definition of coercion is physical required. Prejudice against minorities motivates some of the forced abortions in China under the two-child policy, but far from all of them. The coercive policy also affects many members of the majority ethnicity. For example, the Wall Street Journal reported that in 2018 a high school teacher with two children, surnamed Sun, in Hebei province, abor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:09 AM
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everyone gets assistance, because anyone could need it, but its withheld for having a baby, which almost anyone who has a baby would need. how is that not coercion? like i said, just look at china. those were pretty widely agreed upon as coerced abortions because very necessary and basic social services are withheld after having more than 1 child. its the definition of coercion. sure, they have a “choice.” thats perfectly within the bounds of the concept of coercion. withholding a need would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:46 AM
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how is it not coercion if a normal person, man or woman, would be unable to do something with no assistance, and you as a society offer similar assistance to ANYONE in need of it, EXCEPT a baby, which almost everyone would be in need of?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:08 AM
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it doesnt have to be. i just said it could be the states. but if not that, then both people who made the baby. either way, it needs funding. forcing the man to fund the child (to the best of their ability, child support depends on income) is much less bad than coercing an abortion or forcing childbirth. its not a realistic choice if most people cant do it. not allowing someone to control how a pregnancy goes is the human rights violation. coerced abortion vs forced childbirth is the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:27 AM
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just as it was their “choice” in china. if you can expect a social safety net for yourself, not offering it for a child is tantamount to a coerced abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:12 AM
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i dont see how one persons opinion is all that relevant. one issue is a gross human rights violation that we dont impose on criminals, the other is like a family law issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 11:47 PM
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forcing an abortion for financial reasons is equally bad. not many people were defending chinas “forced” abortions for financial reasons. so if the state were to provide that support without sacrificing more important social safety nets, then that would make work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 11:45 PM
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Most people do not realistically have the ability to support a newborn on their own. You can work and pay for daycare, but daycare is expensive and you’re left with not enough for rent and food. I’d be willing to support this option if the state were capable of supporting the kids without sacrificing more important social safety nets. That’s just not what we currently have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:35 PM
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how is it not? if you take custody of the child she has to pay child support
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:38 PM
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im saying tying them together js gross. id rather not be violating a fundamental human right ASAP. id also only support it in a much more ideal world, and would not support it now, in the USA. i think taking money for a childs well being is infinitely more acceptable than taking a persons body.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:06 PM
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maybe they should, but them not being able to do that isnt grossly violating a fundamental human right that is extended even to prisoners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:51 PM
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child support is a % of your income, just like taxes. you are forced to pay any tax that is not income tax, regardless of your income
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:50 PM
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absolute, perfect, full equality shouldnt be necessary to eliminate a gross human rights violation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:53 PM
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its not though. taxes arent an issue of bodily autonomy, and neither is child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:27 PM
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america is obligated to attack israel if it attacks turkey
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:56 PM
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one initiative is an interesting cultural/social setup, the other is a violation of a basic human right to bodily autonomy. i dont see why you need one to have the other make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:15 PM
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that the n count doesnt actually matter and is impossible to actually use effectively. you cant always practically use science. if you isolate 1 trait, and find theres a small difference between people with and without it, it doesnt mean making decisions based on that is actually possible, or smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:36 PM
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so if it was shown that high n women are “better” your wife is still the right choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:29 PM
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so you are deciding based on studies. if there was a positive result, you would seek out people with high body counts?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:32 PM
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the debate is whether high or low n counts are better in a vacuum? why would the practicality of using n counts factor in, given that this is a debate sub about dating and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:43 PM
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what exactly would a positive study do? make you want to select for people specifically with higher n counts?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:28 PM
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i don’t get how this can be relevant into perpetuity when executives change
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:19 PM
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So NATO is a disaster, it’s horrible, gets us into so much trouble, but our alliance with Israel is just the best. best alliance ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:54 PM
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the regime falling is what would ensure a longer war. the regime at least has some semblance of stability. the regime falling isnt going to be the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:16 AM
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this would guarantee a much longer war. the only hope for a short war is if the regime stays and agrees to cease fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:32 AM
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grandma doesnt get a registry thats insane. for the first child, youre probably very anal and will require preapproval of anything the baby touches, down to the fabric. other than that and the banner id encourage the wife to just indulge her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:32 PM
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1, or 2, either way, plus 3: work on himself such that he is less intimidated by women, and doesnt feel inadequate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:56 AM
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men typically have a higher n than women. women typically have a lower n than men. this doesnt mean in every relationship, the man will have a higher n than the woman. if you extrapolate this to every way men and women are different statistically, nearly every relationship will have had something go wrong, in your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:47 AM
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why would you need to respond in a way thats adherent to some made up dogma? say whatever you want
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:44 AM
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If we assume it is true that the dating market is a disaster, and attractive men are having unprecedented difficulty, this doesn’t prove or disprove the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:13 AM
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I hated that show with a passion since it replaced 97.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 03:07 AM
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You can’t have accountability without free speech
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 12:22 AM
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i feel like there are easier ways to tell if she genuinely desires you… also having had fwb has no bearing on whether some other person desires you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:41 PM
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the best way for that person to find someone genuinely interested is to try. go to therapy, go to the gym, and taking showers can all be included in trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:31 PM
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whats the tldr on this clavicular thing? making some assumptions and not knowing what was actually said: maybe you could do therapy, or maybe you dont need it at all. its not really on women to disprove generalizations. whether the generalizations are true or not, its on you to find someone you can be happy with. if 70% of women are bad, you just have to look for that 30%. no one is a match for everyone, and theres no reason to be jaded just because most women arent your cup of tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:24 PM
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ive also never heard it irl, but its all over the place here. i dont see how its possible youve never seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 06:41 PM
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what does this mean? shouldering the blame for your current predicament?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 04:34 PM
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date people with a mutual connection
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:25 PM
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like i said previously, how does it make sense to go out of your way to have sex with people you couldnt possibly like, or be butthurt about that not happening? Whats the difference, from the perspective of someone who doesnt have casual sex, between being in a relationship and having sex with them repeatedly casually? the only difference is promising not to fuck other people, but you arent doing that anyway. conversely, she maybe has before? the only one committing anything is her, which sounds…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:56 AM
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So youre not butthurt over not being able to have casual sex with people who have had casual sex before. that would have just been incidental, not worth going out of your way for. youre butthurt that you couldnt have casual sex with people who have never had casual sex before, since theyre the only potentially likable ones? That seems unreasonable in and of itself self, but not only that, because you feel butthurt about that, you now consider being with anyone who has had casual sex before an L,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 07:48 PM
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you said anyone who has had casual sex is a slut. i get preferring to be the first person to have casual sex with someone, but shes still a slut, according to you. its not incidental because you said by definition people who had casual sex were not possible to like. you want to have casual sex. thats specifically wanting to have sex with people who are unlikeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 05:46 PM
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who is dying to go out of their way to repeatedly fuck women they know they couldnt possibly like? that already sounds like its own independent L. You dont have to like everyone you have sex with. but repeatedly, intentionally, seeking specifically to have sex with people you couldnt possibly like, and feeling like the world wronged you because you couldnt do that, is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:35 PM
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you definitely don’t HAVE to like her. you could be drunk, you could be in a weird place. or you just don’t know them much at that point. but you’re pining for having sex with women who you KNOW you’d never like, repeatedly? how does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 03:54 PM
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that, combined with the slappy sounds
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 03:52 PM
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the sounds are the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 01:27 PM
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so in this scenario, you wanted to hookup with women, but find any prospective hookups impossible to like? how does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 12:32 PM
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you suggested it made no sense to ever like a girl who has had hookups. thinking thats impossible is what doesnt make sense, especially if you yourself wanted to have hookups. that would be like thinking anyone you would have hooked up with, and you yourself, are impossible to like. fixating on that is what is more likely to have you continue to stack Ls, upon the L you already took.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 05:54 AM
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you cant like a girl who has had hookups before? despite the fact you wanted to? that makes no sense. the w just becomes unrelated to hookups if youve already taken an L on that. dont keep taking Ls just cuz you took an L.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:54 PM
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Siddhartha by Herman Hesse for me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:16 PM
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just having a girlfriend you really like at that point is a w. compared to complaining about hookup culture and not having a girlfriend you actually like just because she (supposedly) has never hooked up, or maybe not having a girlfriend despite really wanting one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:15 PM
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id be willing to bet your “immunity” is flimsy as shit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:10 PM
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It doesnt make a ton of sense that people in relationships are here. Like cant we find better ways of passing time (clearly not). But it makes less sense for people who are desperately looking for relationships to come here, and post about how much they hate the very thing that they cant live without. This isnt really a dating sub; its more a whining sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:09 PM
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no one in my life is james harden enough
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:31 PM
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how would you know whether you were allowed to or not unless you wanted to? also why couldnt she be your girlfriend, but from what was initially a hookup?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:08 PM
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i dont think going on dates, and advice for that, is discussed as often as being in relationships here. times change, but some experience in a different time always beats no experience in any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:07 PM
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it is generally embarrassing. if it wasnt weirdly normalized for men, itd be embarrassing for men too, it still is unless its very planned out. the whole ritual is an embarrassing thing. most defacto proposals of marriage are probably made by women though, if you define a proposal as communicating that “i want to marry you.” so that doesnt seem embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:00 PM
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if you were locked out of hookup culture, and you didnt want to be, thats an L. after that point, whether your girlfriend participated or not doesnt really determine whether its an L or not. you already took that L.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:55 PM
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incels and women dont belong on different sides, its not apples to apples. im sure the women killers with male victims are also primarily relatives or partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:03 PM
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youre comparing a gender to a belief/cult/lifestyle? how does that make sense? in 2023, what % of homicides were male killers with female victims?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:16 AM
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its more conspiracy than hysteria
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:12 AM
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but young people are here, posting about deadbedrooms and divorce, which they wouldnt have the first clue about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:10 AM
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The snowflakes on the left get triggered when you make fun of them, or disrespect them in some way. The snowflakes on the right get triggered if you don’t bestow them with every privilege they’ve ever had.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:19 PM
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you want someone who has been on 3 dates with you to be devoted and unable to get over you, should you decide to dump them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:41 PM
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the opposite group of people here are coping. people who think people need to be virginal at marriage, and that devotion and everlasting desire must be instant, or else the other person must be a whore, are using an unreasonable and absurd standard to justify not doing what most people are doing. why is anyone going around evaluating the capacity for everlasting desire? if someone showed devotion and everlasting desire too early, itd creep me out. im not looking to marry everyone. If youre at a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:35 PM
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is n count a quality metric to decide whether someone will divorce or cheat? can you practically use this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:59 PM
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but everyone could go with just be authentic piece immediately. i cant say that about too many other things, maybe just a few. and to answer your question, probably not unless its not doing anything for you. if its still not working, try the other things. theres no need to change that much about yourself unless your goals arent being met.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:09 PM
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it would be more beneficial from a time and energy perspective to focus on a few things, rather than try to do everything poorly. which few things will be different depending on the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:05 PM
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Theres very few pieces of universal advice you could give to basically anyone without knowing them. “just be yourself” or “just be authentic” is one of those few, so i think it not being with tons of other advice if the context is a virtual stranger makes sense. While i think almost all of what you listed is good advice, no individual person would or should do all of it. it makes more sense just to adopt a few changes. everyone could go with the just be authentic piece though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:49 PM
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It means just what you said…you just rephrased it, very slightly. Without elaboration, it means no more or less than the sentence “just be authentic.” It’s the same thing. If you get more language to explain it sure it will make more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:56 PM
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i agree with most of what you said. some of it is a little too specific imo. like dont speak in monotone. you did include the cliched bluepill stuff though, like “just be yourself” “treat her like a human being” etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:43 PM
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Being so worried about someone being alpha widowed is really not giving enough credit to how resilient people are. People dust themselves off from much worse than one breakup, and remain capable of moving on and finding their own shred of happiness. Most people arent going to have their lives ruined just by that one breakup.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:53 AM
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Less messy on yourself at least
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:05 AM
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men descend from genetically passive women. this doesnt really make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:55 PM
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i imagine yes, but in a practical, non freudian way. no uti, less messy when peeing. the only downside is its a protruding thing that is easier to hurt on purpose or accidentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:53 PM
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id rather not be with someone who had to convince me long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:55 PM
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1 example can disprove something, it definitely cant prove anything, or even come remotely close. there are so many arguments here where someone points to 1 example to prove men or women are this or that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:52 PM
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look at the people trump appoints. do they strike you as people who can run an organization efficiently? more street shootings, fewer run of the mill deportations sounds basically like what we should have all expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:43 PM
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I wonder how the hardcore conservatives are processing the ICE shooting. Theyre usually libertarian when it comes to the 2nd amendment, authoritarian on military action, law enforcement, crime, presidential power, and a few other things. This must be breaking their brain. “The 2nd amendment! You should be allowed to carry a gun and he was basically killed just for having a gun legally and not reaching for it in any way. But he was protesting ICE! anyone dumb enough to protest armed police are st…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:16 PM
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lack of neuroticism intelligence, particularly in the social sense looks
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:53 PM
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just break up. at 21 how can you even know perfection. clearly not a match at this point, and im sure with all that time, she can find something she wants. how can this guy know she seriously wants to have sex with others and still want to move together somewhere? as a side note this is why n count doesnt matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:50 PM
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have a relationship like just ever? or are you stuck with this person? if im not stuck, id choose have a relationship. i trust myself enough to end it or not get too deep. dying a virgin is a fuck no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:37 PM
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no. thats trashy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:17 PM
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anecdotally people who demand that and/or receive that tend to be bad news.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:55 PM
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Not so much obnoxious but to get out of stuff they don’t want to go to/do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:26 AM
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I have no idea what youre talking about but A. those incel subs were going to get banned, for obvious reasons. one person saying they did it for some goofy reason is more just a little bit of self importance than actual fact. Theres 0 chance those subs were banned because of that one person thinking some people should be challenged more. The people that got the sub banned were the people active in it, its pretty simple. B. My point is it just sounds like youre desperately trying to have some jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:46 PM
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where did anyone say anything about that being criminal? i dont know why someone had that opinion, but none of what you said follows from 1 person having that opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:25 PM
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i dont get it. all women who challenge the stuff they write in incel subs are hateful? therefore men should hate women and women should shut up? theres a lot of stuff thats not following
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:18 PM
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so if a better partner is within her proximity, thats it, you need to break up?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:10 PM
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what does “all women are like that” mean in the context of cheating then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:11 AM
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you picked that quote to illustrate your point. that its water off a ducks back because, of course she would cheat. so why would you hope?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:40 AM
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if all women cheat, whats the point of hoping they wont cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:11 AM
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are all women like that or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:14 PM
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how does a general difference in what men and women prioritize indicate women cant love men? at best, it indicates they cant love those men, the same way men cant love certain women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:25 AM
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so they think youre cool, but you think they cant love men the way men love women, and only could love what you do for them, and/or they went through the cock carousel, participate in dual mating strategy, will look for a betabuxx, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:09 PM
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they can be reconciled. changing over time doesnt make it voluntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:00 PM
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so you need to get a dna test to tell if someone is a woman? this doesnt make sense in real life. important in medicine, but not for “sir” vs. “m’am”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:58 PM
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what makes you a woman? if someone had that, theyd be a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:43 PM
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dumb litmus test. how is that a core issue? also what is there to “believe?” they physically can change their appearance to comport with another gender. its not something that requires belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:35 PM
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Spiders are less icky than the stuff they eat
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:25 PM
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That implication doesnt actually change the reaction. A guy could easily begin a joke (or some short form entertainment like tikok) with “dating in your 30s is like going to a restaurant with your friends, and they all got their food. Youre sat there wondering, was it something i ordered?” There would be no reason what i posted is a very common routine, but whats above would he absolutely out of bounds. If making fun of others is normal in comedy, so is implying something taboo, like being entit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:36 PM
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reality of actual people isnt going to work like your step-by-step narrative. if you had simply said, purity culture contributes to poor sex lives, sure thats plenty plausible. not this heroes journey your hypothetical woman goes through.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:01 PM
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Shes clearly made this analogy with some entertainment value in mind. I dont see how this tiktok is materially different than a comedy show, its content meant to be consumed. Theres barely any implication she deserves anything? but im not going to find an exact copy of what she said in male form. here are some things he does that she doesnt: he makes generalizations about women, implies they have an exceeding amount of privilege. she never implies anything like that about men. the point is he ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:57 PM
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in the reddit comments? thats not real life. https://youtube.com/shorts/fOp3IOnKZsg?si=rYeETh2tG0G4w8Qm he compares dating women of different ages to weight classes in combat sports. AT LEAST as bad as your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 07:00 PM
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pretty sure similar things are said by men all the time, like comedians. Being single sucks, feels like some weird analogy. Dating in your 30s is like some weird analogy. pretty common. shes taking her own perspective of what her situation feels like, not saying men are all like this or that. the reaction would be laughter if its funny, an eyeroll if its not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:11 PM
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no. peace and prosperity is way better. but this is the cope. i chose a senile dictator, but thats exactly what i wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:29 PM
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how is a step by step narrative of someones love/sex life from childhood to divorce, including decision points and internal reasoning, not hyper specific? can you even imagine this being well studied? what study could possibly demonstrate this entire life path is extremely common?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:26 PM
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this hyper specific hypothetical scenario is well studied?! including their internal justifications and thoughts?! how? i know for certain something that specific could in no way be well studied, but it also just doesnt sound particularly common in the western world. most people dont delay sex. deadbedrooms are not typically due to shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:48 AM
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Im curious, do you think some baddie could wreck you like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:51 PM
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Says the person that believes in something that makes sweeping generalizations about all men and women based on “experience.” Im not sure where youre getting “vibes” from. I just said ive never hated a group to the point of learning about them for the express purpose of hating them more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:48 AM
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Ive never hated a group of people so much as to learn about their history to hate on them more
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:15 AM
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I think grace to the officer is still reasonable. He seems to have not done the right thing, but maybe not to the point of a crime. Dunno. It didnt look like she hit him, but i think its fairly obvious she didnt try to? He walked to the front of her car while she was backing up, she was not turning towards him at all. Maybe she didnt see him since you dont expect someone to be right in front of your car when you back up. Its just funny the doubling down on “domestic terrorism” thing when the vid…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:08 AM
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How are some of the feminist haters here so (apparently) knowledgeable about feminism? I see you arguing about the differences between 3rd or 5th or 9th wave feminism, all the denominations of feminism between liberal, or radical or whatever else. I wouldnt call myself a feminist but Id say my views are congruent with the feminist view points that make it to the mainstream. I took a women’s study class for gen ed credit. I just remember not following what the deal with the male gaze was. You guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:31 AM
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<image> Act of “classic” domestic terrorism
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:27 PM
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<image> Act of peaceful protest
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:26 PM
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pretty sure everytime someone gets shot, liberals say “why isnt there way more restrictions on who can buy guns?” not “dang, no wonder why men are virgins. they keep shooting people.” never heard that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:14 PM
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youre summoning the donor guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:05 PM
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iunno, i prefer not being lead on, but “im not interested” just sounds mean
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:00 PM
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Be a little presumptuous. I think its cool. Shows confidence, like this happens to you all the time. Plus the “i have a boyfriend rejection” is less awkward than any other one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:33 PM
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With full consideration of the implied interest. Yes would be im interested too. No would be im not interested. I always like the “i have a boyfriend” rejection. Who knows if they actually have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:49 PM
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Are you crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:41 PM
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Having sex for money would be quid pro quo. Wanting to marry a provider would not be quid pro quo. Only dating people who drive nice cars would not be quid pro quo. Having sex and then getting a car would. If you dont make that distinction, any healthy relationship is prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:03 PM
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girl toddlers shit in their pants then play with it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:30 PM
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A. of course its a big deal. would a prostitute settle for a 70% chance to get paid? B. Because there is no quid pro quo, there can (and pretty much always will) be more exchanged than just sex, most of which will be unclear. a woman looking for a provider could be raising kids, taking care of the house etc. The only listed arrangement that is actually clear is sugar daddy. Not distinguishing marrying a provider because you want to be a homemaker and a prostitute is just absurd. the word will me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:28 PM
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nothing i said was inaccurate. im not here to litigate exactly whether someone was murdered or whatever. i just think its hilarious that this same group of people will bend over backwards to call storming of the capitol a peaceful protest, while this woman who backs up her car slightly after waving people by is a terrorist. there is nothing bad faith about pointing out that contradiction. and its no more biased than your own objection to it which accuses me of “loosing people.” thats a biased ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:18 AM
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youve yet to point out how its inaccurate. im not sure what you were expecting in terms of bias? did i claim to be a journalist? my comparison is inherently biased. no more biased than you though, so not sure what the issue is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:55 AM
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you took issue with what i found to be an amusing contradiction. im not seeing anything thats invalidating that contradiction. slightly changing “random woman” would not make it less funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:07 AM
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no intelligence in the world could get to domestic terrorist. random woman is at minimum 100x more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:58 AM
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what about random woman is misleading? she is for all intents and purposes, a not notable person. is there a way you would describe her that would make her sound more like a domestic terrorist? i did not mention her even getting killed. so your video isnt relevant to my point. even if she was peacefully apprehended, my point would still stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:01 AM
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where did i backtrack? i got amused from charlie kirks shooting. im not going to crucify you for being amused at some woman shooting. i dont personally have anything to be amused by here, but if you find something, go ahead. why would finding some enjoyment from one shooting necessitate me finding the same for all of them? i just wouldnt fault you for it, since it happens so often. feel free to enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:14 PM
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yeah, i get enjoyment from them. charlie kirks death was ironic. it amused me a bit. i dont really have anything to enjoy with the minnesota woman, but if you enjoy seeing some ICE observer get her comeuppance, all power to you. i didnt say i can find enjoyment in ANY gun death. gun violence is just every day life. calling her a terrorist is hilarious though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:06 PM
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i didnt. you can feel free to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:02 PM
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whats not worth celebrating? like i said, its a pastime. clearly theres no regard for gun deaths. might as well enjoy them. calling her a domestic terrorist is peak though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:00 PM
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getting shot is an american pastime. no real outrage. just funny. its more ironic that the ONLY time gun toters ever find a shooting outrageous is charlie kirk. school shooting? in his own (paraphrased) words, its just the cost of freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:53 PM
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explain the bad faith? this is directly from the perspective of trump. a planned, rehearsed statement from his official calls her a domestic terrorist lol. is it fun to use “bad faith” to cover up your willful blindness?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:49 PM
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Storm the capitol with congressmen inside, purposefully breaking barricades set by capitol police, with zip ties, and intent to hurt police and other people in the building = peaceful protestors. random woman backing up a bit to do a tiny 3 point turn to get out when people with guns out approach without identifying themselves and yanking the door = domestic terrorist. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:08 PM
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thats not prostitution. thats obviously bad, but not prostitution. prostitution involves a clear exchange or else the word is broad to the point of being meaningless. prostitution isnt relative, thats the point. a prostitute can have more money than their client, that doesnt make them not a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:55 PM
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Quid pro quo can be implied but the exchange has to be clear. it is only clear for sugar daddies. If someone wanted to be with a partner who owned a house, theres no clear exchange. like you give me half the house, ill have sex with you for 10 years with the option to extend? thats not what happens. In most relationships, sex is provided. if either side has any material benefit it is prostitution? really doesnt make sense. Your own criteria dont even make sense with that broad definition. If a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:50 PM
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4 of those dont have a quid pro quo, and are not prostitution. otherwise all relationships where people have any kind of mutual benefit would be prostitution, which just makes the word meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:40 PM
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its not cheating. its probably worth breaking up over, but its not cheating. cheating would involve doing something about it while deceiving you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:14 PM
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i dont get your argument. the tone here is INTENTIONALLY inflammatory. why would it be surprising that people who dont even care about n count preferences care about the tone, when that was the intent?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:15 PM
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one charged a barricade of a federal building with congressmen inside, the other looked like she was waving cars past, when terrorist looking mfers stepped out of an unmarked car and walked up to the other one, she backed up her car a bit (not towards any one, the person who shot her stepped in front of her car), clearly looking to get away. no one should die when avoidable. one was much more avoidable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:09 PM
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yes, but i would be amused by it for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:33 PM
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the better advice is there is no universal advice. thinking youve stumbled upon something like that, taken a red pill and awoken to some truth nobody else sees, is ridiculous. there may be much more personal advice, but that would involve not thinking AWALT or AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:11 AM
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I ended up where i expected. It got dicey for a few years. In hindsight its kinda obvious what was wrong but wasnt sure what was going wrong at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:33 AM
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