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Debatehakunaa-matataa/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:10 AM
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This is hugely culturally dependent. In Europe, nudity (like nude beaches) is a lot more normalized than in the United States. Ultimately I don’t care how a man dresses. I see men outside all of the time in bikers shorts and no top on, jogging, and I manage to keep my eyes to myself. If you don’t want to be with a woman who wears revealing clothing, literally just. Don’t date women who wear revealing clothing. It’s that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:57 PM
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I can’t say. As an individual, I feel sympathy for men who struggle with dating or feel they are so undesirable that they could never be loved in a romantic sense. That sounds incredibly hard to grapple with. I can’t ever really “understand” it in the sense that that will never be my reality because I’m not a man. What I don’t feel sympathy for is the demands that women change themselves to suit men’s needs better. I hate it when women lament that the men they go on dates with aren’t fit enough,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:54 PM
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This is SUCH a good point, and I think it explains so much regarding how men and women view one another. I think social media has warped our perception of the other sex so much, and so we begin to only focus on the attributes of those who force themselves into the limelight. Unfortunately, people who do that typically (not all the time) are not the most virtuous people on the planet. So then we get obnoxious men like Andrew Tate or obnoxious women like the girls who go “dOnT tAlK tO mE iF uR bEl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:06 PM
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Where are you getting this statistic that women only pick “the same top 10% of men”? Or are “sexually repulsed” by most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:39 PM
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If you don’t want to date a fat woman no one is forcing you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:48 AM
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You are objectively correct but I’m still not into it 😭 Same with young Leonardo DiCaprio
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:52 PM
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Don’t date fat women. Easy done 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:44 PM
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I know a good chunk of men really think Brad Pitt is the pinnacle of male beauty, where as I personally could not be less aroused by him. Don’t get me wrong, he’s objectively attractive and way out of my league, but he doesn’t do anything for my lady bits. He’s good looking, but I don’t feel any “lust/desire” for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:43 PM
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I hate to answer “bIoLoGy”, but I do think that is a core element of it, honestly. Don’t get me wrong — I love being with my partner because of the emotional closeness and vulnerability. But in terms of “don’t you get that from your friends and masturbation”, I think there’s a primal instinct there to just. Mate and procreate. Even if you don’t actually WANT children. The hormones are still driving you to do so even if logically you don’t want children. Maybe I’m wrong though, that’s totally a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:52 PM
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I definitely didn’t think of it that way, but I can also see that point. I’ve seen that before too and it’s really messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:25 PM
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She’s literally an adult, what are these people on about 😭 Unfortunately that sounds about right. Can’t make everyone happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:20 PM
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I’ve seen this happen before from both sexes, and it SUCKS. I used to do my ex’s taxes because he thought it was too hard. Meanwhile he would chastise me about living with my parents for 6 months after grad school while I started paying off my loans. (Not at all saying all men are like this or that women are incapable of doing this, just sharing my personal experience)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:12 PM
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I think that’s a better start than funding more AI girlfriends (a resource that is free).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:28 PM
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Can’t we just use that money to instill more into education, young boys groups, and research for male mental health instead of. Funding an already free resource? Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against legalized sex work (with the obvious caveats) or men dating AI if that makes them feel desired. But when we’re talking about “funding” stuff, I’d rather put that money into resources that would benefit the overall wellbeing of men collectively as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:04 PM
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Why would ancient China value very, VERY small feet (to the point of breaking them) and incredibly slender waists in women while the ancient Greeks appreciated a bit of body fat? You cannot tell me men are immune to beauty standards. That’s not even a bad thing, it’s just how society works.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:26 PM
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Ohhhhh I see what you’re saying. Yeah, I definitely wouldn’t be giving up my eggs for that lmao. Especially if one of the risks was having a daughter be either orphaned or killed (I’m just guessing, I’m not sure what OP’s solution to that would be).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:05 AM
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I feel like my only concern would be not allowing differing opinions. In a state where only one ideology is allowed to prevail and all others are criminalized, I think we’re setting the stage for an authoritarian regimen. To make myself clear — I don’t think the idea of “a male only society” in and of itself is inherently wrong if it’s entirely voluntary. I think the potential for corruption comes from forcing only one ideology from these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:03 AM
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He addressed it a little later on with either surrogates or artificial wombs. However I have a follow up question regarding how any unwanted daughters would be handled? It sounds like a legal nightmare if artificial wombs are used, because the child will technically have no “birthright citizenship”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:31 AM
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But if they can leave at any time, how will you force them to go to a labor camp? I’m not trying to be pedantic, I’m genuinely curious. How would the morals of the men in the country be monitored? You said screening would stop most of it, but if someone were to “change their mind” so to speak would that be something that would be addressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:15 AM
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I think the whole “this entire subset of people should take accountability for the actions of a few” stupid. Individual accountability for someone’s own actions is important. But it feels like people asking men/women to “take accountability” are more so just people asking men/women to recognize their own innate biases and being willing to challenge them. That’s not the same as “taking accountability”. It’s just weaponized therapy speech used to sound morally superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:25 PM
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That’s a fair point. I haven’t really considered that before, but I do think that having my issues constantly shat on by society as a whole would make me unlikely to want to bring them up lol. Of course not saying that that’s acceptable and we shouldn’t challenge the status quo, but it could definitely be a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:18 AM
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That’s fair! I’m sure there’s a lot of nuance to it and research I haven’t really delved into. I’m also sure that it varies between the genders of the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:06 AM
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Shared custody is such a good one. Men can be just as caring and nurturing as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:51 AM
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• Men’s mental health needs a lot more awareness. • The inclusion of solely men in the draft is stupid (either get rid of it or include women). • We should be encouraging more boy-only groups for young boys to grow up with male role models. • We need to stop putting men’s worth on their financial success and sexual prowess. • Male victims of rape/emotional/sexual abuse need their voices lifted and heard. • More resources for male victims of domestic violence. My issue is whenever I hear these is…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:50 AM
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I think you’re taking a REALLY extremist “black or white” view on something that’s filled with nuance depending on the individual person. I think there are a lot of reasons women get “dolled up”. It’s a form of self-care/grooming, it usually gets more positive reactions from people, there’s a component of wanting to feel attractive to the opposite sex, etc etc. For some people it’s purely enjoyable/a hobby, some people do it to conform to society standards, some people do it to attract a “mate” …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:16 PM
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Sounds about accurate for both sexes. People comply to traditional beauty standards and get praised for it. I’m not saying it’s inherently right or wrong, but it does seem to be a common thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:07 PM
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Seconded. I find that people who are the most verbal about how much they “hate the opposite sex” tend to be the most reliant on the opposite sex’s approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:21 PM
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Yeah you sound like you Really love your partner, with her “making you miserable” and her “needy nesting instinct” 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:01 PM
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I just said I’d be fine with it. I just want it communicated to me ahead of time so I understand that’s a value/expectation of my partner rather than just “I didn’t want to tell you sooner because I was afraid you’d leave me”.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:35 PM
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He should just tell me that it’s a non-negotiable for him. If I disagree, we aren’t compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:29 PM
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For sure! I’m here for all different perspectives. Yeah, I definitely agree with that. Less focus on men as the “dirty, sex craving monster” gender and also less focus on “how many women you can sleep with is directly tied to your worth as a human” would be beneficial. I also just need TikTok influencers to Stop Talking lmao. They make my skin crawl as much as the rage bait “alpha podcasters” do
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:13 PM
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I don’t have a problem with a guy wanting a paternity test, my issue would be with him asking WHILE we’re in the hospital. That would make me feel like it’s this festering suspicion that’s been brewing for 9 months, rather than just a “trust but verify” thing. Talk to me like an adult that you want to verify that you’re the father after I’ve announced my pregnancy — or better yet, just tell me in our dating phase “if you get pregnant, I want to verify that I’m the father”. I don’t have any qualm…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:53 PM
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I hear what you’re saying, and I’m genuinely asking to understand your view point — what do you think a good solution would be? A way that both doesn’t make men feel demonized/undesired but also preserves women’s autonomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:09 PM
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I’d be thrilled if my husband was cool with that, but ultimately it’s not really a hill I feel strongly enough about to die on. Hyphenating would be fine but I wouldn’t want to give my poor kids a ridiculously long last name lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:23 AM
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I don’t think it’s “anti feminist” to NOT want to take your husbands last name. If that’s important to you as a couple, have at it. The ability to choose is the feminism. For me personally, I refuse to drop my last name to take on my husbands. I don’t like the idea of becoming “one” with his family because it makes me feel like my family is “losing” me. I love my last name, I love what it means and the people/history it’s attached to. The biggest reason though is because I worked my BUTT off to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:16 PM
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If that’s how someone wants to live their life, they’re more than welcome to. But they’ll only make themselves miserable. I can only help someone who is willing to/wants to be helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:23 PM
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I feel like that’s a very black and white way to think about this sort of topic, though. It shouldn’t be a binary of either “you let me treat you like a therapist” or “I refuse to open up”. There’s plenty of middle ground of expecting emotional support from your partner while also being willing to put in effort to move to a better emotional place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:18 PM
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Good lord, good riddance to both those people. I’m sorry for your loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:40 PM
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I think a huge thing that differentiates what people will and won’t put up with in terms of emotional vulnerability in a relationship is their partners willingness to change their situation to the best of their ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:27 PM
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Do I think some woman say they want emotionally availability but react poorly to it? Of course. Do I think this is representative of the majority of women? No. I’d say lack of vulnerability is the deal breaker. If I feel like my partner is constantly putting on a “face”, I’m going to have trouble believing he trusts me. If we’re going to be physically intimate I need you (royal you) to be emotionally intimate with me. I personally haven’t seen a man receive backlash for expressing emotions, BUT,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:24 PM
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I definitely agree. I genuinely believe one very helpful way to combat this would be the implementation of more resources for male mental health. So maybe more representation of close male friendships in media, more encouragement by parents of letting their sons open up about tough emotions, more emphasis on male role models (idk how I unfortunately don’t have all the answers). There’s clearly a lot of body dysmorphia in this sub alone, and a lot of men explaining how they feel like they aren’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:24 PM
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Since OP is conveniently dodging any question asking for a source — I actually found one. A new study showed that men who perceived themselves as very attractive or very unattractive were the most likely to be misogynistic. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/sjop.13062
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:26 PM
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I’m a little curious to know what your source on that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 08:32 PM
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I would say from mentally well women, yes. I’m excluding TikTok women or those who think their presence is a gift. But as an individual and as for the women I personally know, yes, equality in the form of paying 50/50, surprising the man with gifts/flowers, emotional support, etc etc and so on and so forth
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:01 PM
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How does that relate to anything I just said
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:08 AM
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There’s actually a pretty interesting article on this: https://www.populationmedia.org/the-latest/unmasking-the-patriarchy-its-origins-impact-and-the-path-to-equality#:~:text=The%20shift%20from%20nomadic%20hunter,now%20Iraq%2C%20Syria%20and%20Turkey. To sum it up — men are, on average, biologically physically stronger. So not only could the men of the past quite literally beat/rape the women of the past into submission, but they were also valued more highly in agricultural contexts due to their …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:42 AM
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Because the men back then didn’t allow those women to own land, have our own bank accounts, or learn how to read or write. Fathers didn’t let their daughters go to school. And if they were wealthy and somehow did, they got married off at a young age to an even wealthier family. If the woman rebelled, she’d be cut off from financial resources — and so she couldn’t afford basic necessities except for by maybe prostitution, which was dangerous in and of itself. It’s hard to have the “gusto” to buil…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 12:37 AM
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Pretty much. If anything, this sub has made me appreciate men a lot more lol. Not the small group who want to “tax single women higher for being a net negative on society” or whatever — but the vast majority of men who seem eager to participate in a healthy, nuanced conversation about gender roles and ways the patriarchy treats both sexes unfairly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 11:11 PM
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I don’t think that’s a fair argument, though. We go into a “chicken or the egg” argument. Did having testosterone make those men more capable of inventing? Were there less women involved because women are “inherently less intelligent” (not saying you’re saying that), or because they weren’t allowed to participate in the science field until recently? How many inventions/advancements in society have we missed out on because we excluded women in the field of science for so long? I can appreciate th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 11:08 PM
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Take my diet reward. 🥇🥇🥇 100% agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:55 PM
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I haven’t heard that before. Do you have a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:34 PM
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Eating fast food in moderation is fine. Eating it in excess is considered an addictive behavior. Having tattoos is a form of self expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:54 PM
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I think it’s hard to equate “having tattoos” with “doing drugs and watching porn all day”. We’re talking self expression vs. addictive behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:34 PM
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But my issue with that thought process is why are we immediately assuming that if a guy says “I’ve never slept with a woman before” that the woman is immediately going to get icked out. And it depends on the context. If a guy and I are going on a second date and he’s telling me about his insecurities regarding his virginity, that’s too much too soon (I’m not saying that’s what you’re saying I’m just trying to paint a picture). But if we’re friends or have been exclusive for a few weeks, sure, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:10 AM
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It’s a debate sub, I’m not personally attacking you. I’m just asking a follow up question. I don’t understand how me asking “how would anyone know your sexual status without you explicitly telling them” could possibly be misconstrued as me saying “fuck your insecurities”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:45 AM
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lol jinx
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:34 PM
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But again, how would anyone know whether or not you’re a virgin unless you explicitly tell them? I don’t tell anyone my sexual status except for my friends/potential partners a few dates in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:34 PM
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My only question with this is how would anyone know if someone is a virgin or not unless they’re talking about it. I don’t assume the sex status of anyone around me — honestly it doesn’t even come into my mind. So I’m not sure how people could treat a virgin man differently than a non virgin man if they don’t know if someone is a virgin/isn’t a virgin to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:49 PM
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Oh man this is my time to shine lol. I have a coworker who is doing this to me right now as we speak. • Inviting me to his apartment while barely knowing me. • Continuing to flirt pretty aggressively after I’ve said I’m not interested/not looking for anything • Saying how “all women are inferior” to me. Putting me on a pedestal while barely knowing me. Help me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:32 PM
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Marijuana once a month > Maybe, but no more than that. i have no issue with him doing it recreationally/socially, but anymore than that would likely make us incompatible. Devout christian > Sure, but again, it depends. I’m a Christian, but I won’t date anyone who uses God as an excuse to be homophobic/transphobic. Plus, I don’t subscribe to “the man has the final word because he’s the closest to God”. Dislikes Exercise > No. I like exercising. Gay marriage shouldn’t be legal > No. Abortion shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:04 PM
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I mean, I think a certain amount of vetting is necessary. I think both sex’s should do it, honestly. If a random guy cold approaches me, asks me out, and I accept — I’d hope both of us would do some minor research so he can be assured I’m not a lunatic and vice versa. I’m not saying dig through the dark webs to get their social security number, but if y’all have mutual friends or you want to look at their Instagram to make sure they’re not married or something, I don’t see why not. Great way to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:44 PM
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This is giving me the same energy as high schoolers asking my lesbian friend if she got “turned on” by looking at herself in the mirror
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:47 PM
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Okay, three things. One, these women suck. No one who is secure in themselves makes fun of other people’s heights/things they can’t control. These women likely have deep insecurities. Report their posts for body shaming. Two, you keep moving the goal posts. I said the “millions of likes” are likely to be comprised of a lot of bots, not individual women. How did that turn into comments — which, by the way, the creator can delete/hide ones who disagree with her/call her out. “Obvisiyah” and “allis…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:33 AM
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Quite literally yes, they could be. Look, I’m not saying “any woman who is a bitch online is a bot”. But to call them a monolith and use TikTok likes as evidence is just straight up incorrect, because bots exist on the internet. Don’t you ever get followed by random women on Instagram with 0 posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:45 PM
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Bots like random content to avoid getting detected/marked as bots, to garner traffic towards something they may be trying to advertise, to collect data, etc etc. Look up “dead internet” theory. Seriously, look through the likes of the next post you see of “I hate short men” or whatever. So, so many of the likes are from “wkdjjkdsklz” with no avatar and whose account was created yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:46 PM
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People can buy likes from bots. It’s incredibly common. https://www.digitaljournal.com/social-media/is-it-really-going-up-not-all-tiktok-like-count-are-real/article?utm_source=chatgpt.com
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:19 PM
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How do you know? You can only speak for yourself, and plenty of men (a group) are chiming in with their own experience that opposes yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:10 PM
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Your entire opinion/post is based on personal anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:56 PM
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I’m fine with that, but I’d like to see the same energy for the small group of men on here who insist that every/the majority of the time they approach a woman, they’re called a creep/the woman acts less than politely. Or if they’re struggling to get dates, maybe they’re the common denominator. Instead we get these swaths of men saying that women only want XYZ and they’re such a nice guy why won’t women/females love them and that must be the sole reason they can’t get dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:08 PM
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<image> Holy benevolent(?) sexism…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 07:10 PM
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Absolutely not. A preference is a preference, live your best life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:29 AM
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I think the issue with some of the components of the “benefits” of this pill is that we’re assuming that gay men act exactly like straight men. Which could be more or less true (I have zero idea, I’m a straight woman), but I’ve found that gay men can have a tendency to socialize more often around women (in comparison to straight men), so I’m wondering if that wouldn’t impact the way they act/carry themselves in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:26 AM
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😂😂😂 Hey man I used to wear skinny jeans, flats, and a graphic tee in middle school. So you definitely weren’t alone in questionable fashion choices lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 09:01 PM
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✨fashion✨ Why do some guys wear their pants so low that you can see their boxer briefs? ✨fashion✨
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:55 PM
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No, of course not. Prejudice against men is unacceptable. I do have to wonder though, why is it that we see a small group of men coming to this subreddit to ask all women if they find these extreme views to be okay, but never women asking all men if they find incel.is to be okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:39 PM
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What is your source for this other than “trust me bro”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:44 AM
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Well I feel like I’m missing context. If a woman says “we didn’t date long because he was intimidated by my intelligence/money/whatever”, I’d want to ask her why she thinks that. Don’t get me wrong — I’m not saying because she’s a woman there is absolutely no way she can be incorrect. She, like any human being, could be misreading the situation. But I think we’re downplaying how often it happens that (a small amount of) men feel intimidated by a woman if they don’t feel like they can provide for…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:42 AM
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No, that’s pretty much the point I was trying to make. Again, I think it’s a very small group of men who do that. But I do think that it happens. I do agree that money is more attractive to women than men. But I’m not sure why we’re assuming that either sex would feel “contention” about a woman having a high degree of education/high paying salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:45 PM
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I work with a lot of surgeons, and there’s one surgeon who calls all the male surgeons “Dr. [Last Name]” and exclusively calls all the female surgeons “[First Name]” despite being asked not to. So that’s super cool and not condescending at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:25 PM
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When people say “men are intimated by smart and successful women”, I don’t think it’s that men suddenly view these women as competition. It’s that this (very small minority of) men place all of their value on how much money they can make. So when a woman they desire makes more than them, I think this small group of men feel like they can no longer appeal to that woman because they aren’t a necessity in “providing” for her. So they insult her intelligence or downplay her achievements in hopes tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:18 PM
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I’m not gonna argue whether or not female privilege exists, but I will say that I agree. If men are only “””allowing””” us rights, then none of the privileges that are inherent to women are privileges. If someone else is controlling our autonomy and agency, we cannot be privileged. That’s why I find it a bit ironic that it seems to be the same very small group of men who are spouting that they are only “allowing” women to have equal rights while also complaining about “female privilege”. If you …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:24 PM
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Disagreement is not equivalent to being triggered. It’s just inherent to being on a debate sub where people argue/defend their points.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:22 PM
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Okay. So don’t fuck women you think are below your “league”. Easy, done.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:03 PM
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Absolutely. I agree with that. I’d like to see more effort put towards men’s mental health, advocating for more fair sentencing between the sexes (not necessarily making woman’s sentencing longer or men’s shorter), either including women in the draft or abolishing the draft to begin with, more advocacy for male victims of abuse, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:14 AM
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I added in my first paragraph that men’s issues should be taken seriously. Again, I’m specifically addressing the commenters who say “women better feel sorry for men or we’re going to take their rights away”.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:58 AM
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AWW YEAH we’re back
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:20 AM
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Yeah, I don’t agree with the woman. She’s making it sound like it’s a man’s responsibility to “center” his partners “emotional fit” or whatever the wording was. I am responsible for my own emotions, no one else is. It’s fine (and necessary) to communicate your needs to your partner/express feelings of insecurity — and that will look different for every couple — but acting like it’s “femininity to live in the now” or whatever because “women emotional, men logical” just seems like a really great b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:18 AM
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LITERALLY 💀 It’s like that quote says “when all you’ve ever known is privilege, equality feels like oppression”. (And to any lurkers, no I’m not saying that men’s issues don’t exist or shouldn’t be taken seriously). Honestly, look up Kohlberg’s Theory of Moral Development. I’ve brought it up so many times on this sub but it genuinely seems like a small chunk of people haven’t made it past stage 2 (9 year olds are at this stage). Stage 2 is “what is right and wrong is determined by what brings re…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:54 AM
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Hell yeah I would. As long as it isn’t Rob from Love Is Blind USA (dude drives me insane)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:46 AM
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It is a little funny to me how at least daily we get some guy going “women better feel really sorry for us or we’re gonna take their rights away”. Unfortunately for them, the vast majority of the men and women here have the moral judgement skills above a literal 9 year old. 🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:01 AM
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I believe that the definition of human rights is “fundamental freedoms that are inherent to individuals by merit of being human”. Yes, obviously, the strongest person can take away someone’s rights at any time. But that doesn’t mean that that person is just “allowing” everyone else to have rights. You (royal you) “allowing” everyone the right to live by not going on a stabbing spree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:51 PM
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I think we have very different definitions of what constitutes as a human right. So, again, agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:28 PM
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Then by that logic, no one but the strongest and richest have any rights. At any time those who wield all the money and appropriate weapons could just demolish everyone else and insist they never had any “rights” to begin with (see: North Korea).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:22 PM
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How would that apply to young boys being forced into the draft or young black men being forced into slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:12 PM
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We’ll have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:11 PM
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No. That’s some made up standard/thinly veiled threat, not a “rule” about human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:03 PM
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Oh no, people not conforming to traditional gender roles reading to my young, impressionable children who might decide to NOT partake in traditional gender roles (literally half of what people complain about on this sub) … the HORROR!!!!! 🤪🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:51 PM
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No. You cannot “give” someone a human right. Modern men do not get to pat themselves on the back for “giving” women something that should’ve intrinsically belonged to them for all of civilization. Just like white people don’t get to pat themselves on the back for “giving” black people the right to vote and have citizenship. It was never ours (I’m a white person, I’m not directly referencing you since I don’t know your race) to take to begin with. If a burglar comes into your house and takes some…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:47 PM
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“Instead they only listen to Chads. Unlike me, a nice guy, who clearly respects females.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:17 PM
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LMAO There’s definitely a loud minority of guys on here who think women need to thank men for “giving” them equal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:06 PM
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Mmm that’s fair. I definitely agree with that. I am definitely not immune to not thinking with logically when feeling emotional
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 07:11 PM
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LMAO I’m glad to be of service 😂😂 The universal experience of somehow ending up as someone’s interim therapist…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 07:09 PM
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Fair enough, I definitely know I do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 07:07 PM
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For sure, but I’m asking if he thinks the same applies to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:42 PM
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I mean, by that logic women should be allowed to vastly generalize men because “they’re the ones dating men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:15 PM
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I’m a little curious to know if you think that men also have subdued logic due to an emotionally charged state (I’m mainly referencing this subreddit, but I guess it could apply in other aspects).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:11 PM
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I’d like to see a total reform of the education system, personally. It seems ridiculous to me that nothing has changed over the past few centuries. “I Sued the School System” by Prince Ea I think is an incredible summary of this. I do get concerned for young boys. I have to wonder if part of the reason ADHD diagnosis are going up in young boys is because young boys tend to be more focused on large motor skills, which can be seen as “disruptive”, so they are quite literally drugged up on Methamph…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:25 PM
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Sure. Doesn’t make it okay, but I see where it’s originating from.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:33 PM
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But why is the only solution for “men have less options so are they are forced to date single mothers” to berate single mothers online.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:27 PM
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Sure, but I still think it’s worth noting that I see far more men obsessing over single mothers and degrading them than I see women degrading single fathers. Granted that could be sample size bias but I still think it’s worth pointing out that single mothers are demonized, likely more often than single fathers, in the context of “which sex is judged”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:19 PM
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Not according to the men on here. How many times do you see a single mother on here called “used goods” or a “bitter old hag” versus a single father.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:50 PM
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<image> ok girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:38 PM
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I’m so sorry that happened to them. I hope they’re safer now and those girls get locked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:01 PM
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I can see why she’s an ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:57 PM
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LMAO TRUE 💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:27 PM
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Who in their right mind is blaming men for being victims of physical/emotional abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:30 PM
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The comment on pay is super interesting to me (as more women join the field, pay goes down, etc.) — would you mind expanding on it more?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:50 PM
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I’d disagree. Any woman who solely utilizes her partner as a therapist is guilty of the same things I mentioned above. It doesn’t make it okay because a “woman does it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:03 PM
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Wouldn’t the same logic be applied to women, though? I’m lost on why it’s only men that should be discouraged from being monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:19 AM
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Oh thank you!! Obviously you have nothing to apologize for but I appreciate the sentiment nonetheless. 🥹 That’s fair. I’m sorry you had to go through that, I can’t imagine how disheartening that was. I honestly think that’s the problem with internet advice in general, is that since no one knows one another all we can really do is make these sweeping generalizations about one another. But I don’t say that to discredit your experience, just that people seem to hear one persons experience and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:31 AM
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Sure, I can see instances of that. I’d need a specific example but in general I don’t think that’s an unrealistic take.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:27 AM
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MY GOD….. what can I say, quantum physics is sexy! 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:44 AM
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The interesting thing to me too is that I’ve seen quite a few couples on the internet where the woman is able bodied and the man is disabled (and was disabled before they started dating). Shane Burcaw, Menecesisandbrody, The Clements, Nick and Nicola Chisholm, Catalin and Maria Peter, etc etc. So it’s a little silly to me that a small group of men on here are pointing their lack of success to “women only want 666” when men who have had a really challenging life medically still don’t let that sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:38 AM
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DATE A 4’10” MAN OR BEND TO THE GYNARCHY (I’m kidding lmao) (absolutely nothing wrong with 4’10” men either they are just not particularly common)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:27 AM
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Colleges are becoming so insanely expensive that a lot of people are opting out of them for more viable options, like trade schools. Sure, maybe Yale only has so many spots, but I guarantee that your 4 year public university will let anyone with a passing GPA in. As far as I can tell, men and women typically don’t desire the same jobs. In metro areas, sure there may be more competition for entry level positions. But I think I’d like to see some research that suggests that men are getting less po…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:12 AM
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Three things. One: all of those things you listed, men can still do. They have access to those things. Equal access. No one is stopping a man from enrolling in college, owning a home, or voting. Two: women having those preferences is not “empowerment”. They can have all the standards they want, just don’t date these women if your values are incompatible with theirs. Three: 10/10 fanfic I loved it. I want Greta Gerwig to direct the movie adaption.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:50 PM
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It’s. Really Not. I am not a “passenger” in a man’s life. Sorry to disappoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:10 PM
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Different financial values. I valued saving more, he valued spending more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:05 PM
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He broke up with me (amicable break up), but we were together for 6 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:02 PM
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Okay, so my boyfriend cried in front of me and I still found him sexy. If not more for being able to recognize he needed to let out some emotions in a healthy manner. You’re saying these things like they’re an objective fact when I, and many people, have lived experiences that directly contradict them. What’s your supporting evidence to your claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:59 PM
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I’m not saying there are no women like this, but do you earnestly believe this is the vast majority of women? I have to be skeptical of these posts, honestly. How are we defining “emotionally available”? Are you (royal you) crying after a hard day of work, or are you (royal you) expecting someone to take on the entire emotional burden of your being instead of just. Going to therapy/getting professional help? I want my partner to cry in front of me, to feel anger and grief and disappointment and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:55 PM
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Of course not. But bringing anecdotal, unfalsifiable claims to a debate space with no scientific evidence to back it up and also doubling down on it when presented with evidence to the contrary seems to be people’s version of “voicing criticism”. Men or women, all over the internet. I have been sexually assaulted in my only romantic relationship. I have several friends who are women who have been raped by men. But I do not believe all or even most men are rapists or inherently dangerous, because…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:42 PM
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Yes, but with a caveat. I do believe that women, in this subreddit specifically, are far more subject to being vilified. I think a lot of frustrated men on here have spent so much time trying to “hack” women’s brains that they’ve instead attributed their lack of luck in the dating sphere to “women’s actions and words don’t line up” — which of course they don’t, because women aren’t one voice. We’re 4 billion voices. Any group is going to contradict itself if it has more than 1 person in it. I al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:40 PM
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I think the problem with arranged marriages is that they’d likely be for financial gain and nothing else. It’s not like these are guaranteed happy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:20 PM
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Oh thank you, this was so sweet and validating to read 😭💕 I definitely agree. It’ll probably get worse before it gets better, but I’m hopeful that there’s enough people who don’t live in internet echo chambers where we can have helpful, uplifting discussions about how we can make both men and women’s lives better without. Denouncing human rights lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:51 PM
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Unfortunately that’s a tale as old as time. I don’t say that to discredit your feelings — they’re valid. I’ve felt similarly. But any time there’s a big movement, there will always be valid criticism, and then criticism that swings the pendulum the other way. Unfortunately the louder party is pretty much always the latter. Human nature just sucks like that sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:13 PM
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Sure. As long as we can agree that a man will choose the hottest woman 9 times out of 10. My issue with the whole “women only want the richest man possible” shtick (and the “men only want the perfect body”) is that it looks at being rich as if some guys were just handed it. While there’s likely some privilege involved, you have to work very hard to be able to make over six figures a year with good job security and room to grow, especially in today’s market. I think a lot of guys make this out to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:09 PM
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Thank you for your service!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 07:24 PM
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But if women are objects to men, why would men care what women have to say about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:27 PM
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I’d argue a single mother, according to this sub, is a pretty good “equivalent”. In real life not so much. But I also don’t know any minimum wage basement dwellers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:16 PM
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I think I see what you’re saying, but I, personally, feel like it’s a waste of time for either sex to label a set of characteristics as “good” or “bad” without context (with the exception of like. Rapists and stuff).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:00 PM
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Sure, but we gotta give that same energy to men. OP, I feel like our time would be better spent trying to dismantle the “minimum wage basement dweller” stereotype for men (which is misandrist AND classist, I’d argue) instead of just trying to “make” a female equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:57 PM
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I’d say pretty much anything that makes a guy unsuitable as a partner. — going on TikTok/Reddit/any social media and shitting on men/women going “where have all the good men gone?!1?!1?1” (if they’re being sincere). — Financially unstable — A felon — Refusal to reciprocate in relationship (taking a guy out on a date, getting him special gifts, doing things that make him feel valued) — Physically/financially/emotionally abusive (hitting, slapping, demeaning partner, using someone for their money/…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:24 PM
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“they’re usually single and posting TikTok’s” LMAOO literally though 💀 shits on men as a sex for 2 minutes and 30 seconds “where have all the good men gone?!?!” Geez girl I don’t know it’s a mystery… 😂 It’s not like you’re the common denominator or anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:47 PM
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THANK YOU. Maybe this small group of men are just unappreciative of the work women do put in to participate in relationships. In all my romantic relationships I have bought my partner gifts, flowers, taken him on dates with my money, held him while he cried, curated my affection to whatever love language he had, etc. A lot of women I know do the same. I’d argue most.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:40 PM
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But he should have budgeted for the tip and gas money as well. If you only have $80, you don’t have $80 for food alone. You have $80 for gas, tip, and food.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:27 PM
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Where did you get your information that Natalie Rupnow was a femcel? It looks like she had a boyfriend, was probably a neo-Nazi, and she cited in her manifesto that she committed the shooting because she was “born to the wrong family”. Don’t ask me how that correlates, she was clearly deeply disturbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:43 AM
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On an individual basis, I’m really not sure. I can only speak for myself and my friends experiences. I personally feel like, on average, the men I have been on dates with and I have put in equal effort. Agreeing on a place, both dressing up in a way that makes us feel nice, splitting the bill/swapping who pays. I assume that’s what you’re talking about? If you’re talking about long term relationships — I’m still not really sure. I felt like I put in a lot more effort than my ex did (all the cook…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:23 AM
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I’m a healthcare provider and see this play out in real time a lot. It’s pretty sad to see. That being said, I’ve also seen both sexes of the couple be by their partners side throughout the whole recovery process, so there’s definitely people who don’t fall into these statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:14 PM
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Jokes on you, my parents named me “.” (with a little bit of pee dribble down the leg)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:42 PM
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First of all, your friends sound horrible. Who in their right mind goes “you’re less than a man” to their friend. Good lord. Second of all, I don’t think most women share that sentiment. The issue isn’t that you don’t have a car — it’s that you don’t have a license (presumably, correct me if I’m wrong) and refuse to drive because of your mental health conditions. I would date a man who didn’t own a car. There’s plenty of reasons to not own one (living in an area where it wasn’t required, economi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:01 PM
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Sure, fair enough. I still disagree with OP deeply but I don’t have a lot of knowledge on escorts and still think alimony for government mandated sex is a wild take. Just sign a prenup
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:54 PM
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I don’t know about you but I just did that 5 times last week! 🤪 (/s, obviously)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:51 PM
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That’s why I think signing a prenup is the way to go. Alimony, I guess, made some sense when women couldn’t work for themselves. Now I don’t really feel like it makes sense anymore. (Please know I have a very surface level understanding of alimony lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:49 PM
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I’m not going to address the alimony thing since some other commenters already did — but you’re saying men would be fine with paying alimony if they got government mandated sex by their ex wives. Isn’t that just really expensive prostitution? (I mean fundamentally it’s rape but hiring a sex worker would be cheaper and, in some states, legal.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:56 PM
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I’ve seen people say that and then in the same breath say “they’re a nice guy”. Like yeah. Clearly lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:19 PM
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It’s definitely always bothered me the language people use around men taking care of their own children. It’s not “babysitting”, it’s childcare. That isn’t to say no one should be appreciative of a father taking care of his children, but I wish the same energy would be given to the mother rather than just “it’s her job”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:18 PM
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So what you’re saying is…. You would date your husband? 🤔🤔🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:55 PM
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I’m like. Confused. Like I don’t think his opinion is bad or anything but he said women should have penis’s too. But then. How would sex or childbearing work? It would just be a bunch of sword fighting and then the worst kidney stone known to man
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:51 PM
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lol thank you, I try. Sure. That sounds like a bias that I’ve experienced and I can agree with that. I still don’t agree that women do this disproportionally more than men but I can see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:20 PM
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Lmao, fair enough. I agree, I think there rating system is incredibly skewed and tends to show, what I’d consider to be pretty attractive people, as “average”. I guess the “point” of me bringing that up was to suggest that social media and the presence of celebrities who have had work done has probably skewed our perception of what the “average man/woman” looks like. I think the guy in your example looks solidly average, but when we have examples like Anthony Mackie being a solid 5 (I’d disagree…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:18 PM
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I think the only reason I got the salary thing right is because I have several guy friends who are pretty open about how much they make, so I took an average of their collective salaries. Yeah, I’d consider that guy average. I hear what you’re saying. Do you feel like r/truerateme ‘s scale of male and female attractiveness is relatively accurate or do you feel like it’s skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:14 PM
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I feel like we should establish an example of “male privilege” before we argue it, though. I personally have never noticed a woman earnestly say she’d “pick the bear”, but I’m also only one person. Uhhh. $50k, 5’9”. The height thing is a little unfair because I work in medicine, but I may be incorrectly estimating the height still.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:02 PM
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But there are instances, even in those minimum wage jobs, where sexism — against men or women — can come up. Again that’s a discussion for another post but managers can play into sexist stereotypes all the time. I would use the “80% of women go for 20% of men” thing as an example of men viewing unattractive women as invisible. There is no scientific data that shows that 80% of women are going for the hottest men. That is based entirely on subjective perception that I believe comes about because …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:57 AM
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Well you were the one who directly used the word “thing” in your post. To be fair, I don’t think men are dangerous, but I think women avoid men in public spaces because they don’t want to take the chances of getting killed in that 0.0001% chance or whatever it is if the man does decide to attack. That’s not because men are inherently violent, it’s because men, on average, are stronger. So women know they couldn’t take them in a fight (on average). Hence the avoiding. Sure, that’s fair. But it st…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:50 AM
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That’s fair, I can definitely see that. I’d agree though I don’t think this is a gendered thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:41 AM
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That’s where I’m lost, too. It’s bizarre to think that the majority of women view men as “things”. The cashier/Uber driver is a man who is working hard to pay his bills. He’s a human being. I’m not sure how else women are supposed to view them or prove that we view these men as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:24 AM
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Well the Boy Scouts had forced rebranding due to sexual assault allegations against men/young boys. That being said I’m still pro Young Men clubs. I do think male exclusive gyms would be fine. I’m not entirely sure how much traction they’d get but I don’t see an issue with them. I haven’t heard of the Carpentry incident before. I don’t understand how any of the issues you listed are caused by women as an entire sex. We’re going to have to agree to disagree. Women spearheaded the Women’s Right Mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:55 PM
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Huh, I didn’t realize that. Any better luck with r/MensLib? My main issue with Boy Scouts is that they were forced to re-identify/rebrand due to bankruptcy from several sexual assault allegations against men/young boys. Granted I’m pro either “new Boy Scouts” or accepting young boys into Girl Scouts. I didn’t see that thread, but I’ll keep looking for it. I probably missed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:45 PM
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But what male spaces are being shut down? I’ve listed several organizations that promote men’s rights. And as far as I can tell, women aren’t barging in to “guys nights” at every opportunity. I don’t take issue with men’s only spaces. I don’t know any woman who does. I don’t think the vast majority of women care about men’s only spaces. I can’t really comment on “low value men” because I don’t really think men have objective value in the same way produce does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:15 PM
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I’m going to need some sort of evidence or source for “men had their own spaces but women always barge in”. How many feminist foundations are “mainstream”, though? These organizations exist, but you’re mad because… you haven’t heard of them before? It feels like your argument is that women should fix these issues for men. That’s never going to happen, because women can’t speak on men’s behalf. We shouldn’t be allowed to. You have lives and experiences we will never experience, it wouldn’t be fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:10 PM
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I don’t think it’s that women don’t care (maybe some idiots on TikTok like making ragebait that they don’t), but it’s that women can only do half the work to help uplift men. Men’s mental health is incredibly important to tackle. I am a strong advocate for that. But I don’t see a lot of men making organizations that advocate for male mental health. If men want a space that focuses primarily on male mental health, it would only make sense for men to make those spaces. I don’t think suicide rate i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:45 PM
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So many of the issues in this sub seem to have bigger roots in classism than actual sexism. I am all for women either joining the draft or abolishing it all together, but men seem to blame women for not fighting hard enough to join the draft when in reality it’s the rich men/women that are benefiting from these young men fighting their wars for them, not every other woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:03 PM
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My ELO score is “Mr Blue Sky”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:26 PM
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Sort of, yeah. Insecurity is a lot easier to sniff out than someone who’s a douchebag, because the douchebag is normally good at acting charming and saying the right things until they get what they want. Insecurity comes out pretty much right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:26 AM
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It’s interesting to me because I’ve experienced the exact same, but two of my friends recently got divorced (they were high school sweethearts, were in our mid twenties). The girl initiated the divorce because her ex husband refused to get therapy (he unfortunately suffers from pretty bad mental illness), and it’s weird to see how drastically differently they’re coping. I don’t think they’re at all representative of the vast majority of couples, but my girl friend is doing relatively well (we’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:17 PM
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For sure. I think both sides are guilty of this. They don’t want to have their viewpoints altered but instead insult and demean anyone who disagree with them. I’m definitely guilty of coming into a conversation without an open mind. I think the issue is what everyone is saying. People act like experts on an entire sex based on anecdotal experiences and then generalize them (and vilify) them to hell and back. There also seems to be a heavy focus on who is “suffering more”, which is pretty counter…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:11 PM
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To be totally honest, I normally don’t see those TikToks since they don’t pop up on my feed, but I’m sure they exist. And no I don’t normally engage with them. Fair point. I don’t think being an asshole to anyone is the solution and I can understand the stereotype. But in my own life I don’t really see that stereotype play out. Granted I’m only one person, but I don’t avoid men who don’t fit conventional beauty standards on the basis that they. Don’t fit them. I only avoid them if they give me r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:14 AM
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I do genuinely believe nice, kind men exist. But I don’t think they’re the men posting long essays on this subreddit about how nice they are and how often they’re overlooked. Just like how women who would be good partners aren’t making three minute TikToks about “all men being trash”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:51 AM
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If men want to do that they can, but it won’t fix anything. Women will revolt (and men can decide if they value feeling right and killing women or having partners more) or kill themselves. That will be the natural consequence. Afghanistan is a great example of what would happen if men took away women’s rights. Never said women weren’t unhappy today either. Just said they weren’t happier back then when they had no rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:49 AM
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Okay. And taking away their rights isn’t going to fix that problem. Hence my entire second paragraph. These were issues an entire century ago, no one talked about it because women weren’t allowed to speak up on their issues. Women who suffered from mental illness were literally locked away. That, or if their husbands were pissed off at them for not cooking/cleaning/giving them children, these women could literally be admitted to a mental health asylum. Women weren’t happier back then, they just …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:44 AM
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That’s biological necessity. Not women marrying men out of financial necessity. But these relationships aren’t going to be good. That’s my point. This isn’t going to solve some “chronic male loneliness epidemic” because these women are most likely going to hate their husbands. They won’t listen to their problems, they won’t cook for them, they’ll likely refuse to give them children, etc etc. And whether or not you force women to do all those things somehow, it won’t last. Women will either A: re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:32 AM
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It is really disturbing the amount of people on here who think that the solution to singleness in either sex is — oppressing the opposite sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:22 AM
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How would forcing women into relationships against their will even benefit men, though. These men will know that unless the woman was desperate (which she will be if she has no rights), he wouldn’t have gotten a girlfriend/wife. She will likely not want (I’m not saying intentionally withhold, I’m saying want) sex with him, so unless he’s cool with raping his wife like she’s subhuman than I don’t see how this relationship is going to make a man feel fulfilled. It’s just beating women into submiss…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:21 AM
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Artificially, maybe. But it’s not like these are going to be happy, loving relationships. The women are going to be miserable and resent these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:57 PM
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Okay but what is the correlation here. How would taking away women’s right to vote, own land, and own a bank account help men raise their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:44 PM
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I love this subreddit. Small group of guys: “Why don’t women go for men like us, we’re the nice guys! We’d love women unconditionally!” Same group of guys: “Women need to start loving us or else we’re going to take away their rights.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:50 PM
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I’d be really skeptical of the source because I actually looked for research about height and intimate partner violence prior to making that comment because I like to fact check before I make claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:49 PM
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I’m failing to understand how women would need to lose rights in order for men to raise their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:45 PM
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Literally. This weird “struggle-ympics” isn’t going to get us anywhere productive. Some aspects of women’s lives suck, some aspects of men’s lives suck, screaming “I HAVE IT WORSE” is just so counterintuitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:13 PM
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Okay, so this study said physical size and violence. Which means a 6’2” 300 lb dude could probably sock a 5’7” 180lb person, yes. Because that’s how strength works. That’s talking about violence in general, between men, between women, etc and so on and so forth. I’m talking about a person being abusive in a relationship in correlation to their height or overall attractiveness. Show me a study that says “men who are over 6 foot are more likely to report being abusive/are more likely to have claim…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:07 PM
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You’re asking us to not judge someone by their appearance… by judging someone for their appearance. Just because someone is 6’2” doesn’t make them abusive. There is no scientific correlation to height, attractiveness, weight, etc. to being abusive. Anyone can be abusive, and painting one entire subsection of people as abusive/bad based on the way they look is something we’ve been trying to NOT do for the past century or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 06:23 PM
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I’ve never cheated. I don’t really feel like cheating is a gendered thing. Or maybe it is I haven’t looked up any stats so 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:29 AM
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It’s bizarre to me how many guys on this subreddit (albeit a small group of men in the total population) shit on motherhood, while still expecting to become fathers. It’s like they’re outing themselves as men who will lose interest in their “now fat, ugly wife who only pays attention to the kids and is therefore ‘hit the wall’” or whatever, and then expecting women to still want to sleep with them or “lower their standards”. My standards are very high. I will not date a man who does not particip…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 12:32 AM
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I think you’re forgetting that the Middle East is part of Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:37 PM
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I gotta disagree with your last statement. I don’t think “badness”/the ability to do bad acts is gender specific. Men are more likely to commit physically violence because they’re on average physically stronger than women and can hold them down/may be socialized to feel “entitled” to women’s bodies. But women have just as much capability to emotionally abuse. There aren’t any studies out there that prove that men do objectively worse things on average than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:52 PM
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The information itself isn’t creepy if done between trusted parties. If I know a man well enough (a guy friend, brother, boyfriend, whatever) I can probably use my judgement to infer if I trust him or not. As guys should do for women who are falsely accused of something. But if a guy drops that on me after like. Three times meeting, that’s creepy. If that makes me “part of his trauma”, ok. Rough. I wouldn’t expect people to immediately sympathize with me, a complete stranger, if I was accused of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:12 PM
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My biggest question with all of this is that the narrative on this sub (from a small group of men) seems to be that “if a woman is abused/gets into an abusive relationship, it’s her fault for not seeing the signs”. I don’t believe morally sound women are going around throwing out rape accusations willy nilly. So I don’t understand why that same “it’s your fault for getting into an abusive relationship” isn’t used for false accusations, since the women doing these false accusations are probably p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:01 PM
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No. That’s bizarre. If you want to share your trauma, there should be a certain amount of trust between both parties first, and you probably shouldn’t bring it up when you’re in a physically vulnerable situation. It would be mega creepy for someone to go “I was falsely accused of murder” when standing in a shed full of gardening supplies that could be used as weapons.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:12 PM
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And telling us to “lower our standards or else” 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:20 AM
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I feel like just dumping them would be way easier. Giving someone the “cold shoulder” feels like it would just invite unnecessary drama and work for yourself. Unless you mean “cold shoulder” as blocking and moving on, in which case yeah fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:25 PM
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Well you said “loving someone for their looks”, which I interpret as being different than “being attracted to someone’s looks”. Being attracted to someone physically is an important part of a relationship for a lot of people, loving someone BECAUSE they’re hot is far less stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:00 PM
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Okay but if you think a woman is with you primarily for your money, why would you willingly get married to her? If a woman refuses to sign a prenup and that’s something that is important to you, maybe that’s a sign you two are incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:20 PM
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Well not if you sign a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:22 PM
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Bodies can change, just like money can.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:20 PM
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Agreed. I think the vast majority of criticisms you could have towards men, you could have towards women — and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:18 PM
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I agree with this, but I’m sort of interested to know if you could elaborate on that point? As in, what are the things that are done once a relationship is achieved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:33 PM
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Huh, interesting. I’ll take a closer look when I have the time but I appreciate the source. I will say, with the HPV prevalence specifically, we’ve recently developed an HPV vaccine that may completely disregard the medical argument for male circumcision to prevent HPV spread.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:27 AM
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Were you trying to link me to something specific that debated the article I posted? I’m not saying you’re wrong I’m just interested in educating myself to learn your viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:04 AM
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For sure. Again, I’m not a man so I don’t get a say in what men do with their bodies. Although I am a little curious regarding your thoughts on vaccinations if you’re comfortable sharing them. I know a lot of people argue that they take away minors bodily autonomy, which I can see that viewpoint. I’m not arguing for circumcision, I just know a common argument for it is the reduction of penile cancer rates and reduction of HPV spread. So while breast removal would reduce breast cancer in individu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:00 AM
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Specifically in regards to “why is it legal to circumcise a boy but not a girl” — I do want to say that the medical community believes there are health benefits to doing so. Granted male circumcision has its roots in religion, but there are a few studies that state that male circumcision in infants reduces the risk of penile cancer. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3139859/ That being said, science is always changing. I’m not a man so I don’t get a choice in what men do with their bodies…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 12:20 AM
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Sure, that’s fair. I personally feel like I have seen the same amount of “small tit” jokes as “small dick” jokes specifically on MEDIA, but I may be looking through a biased lens. That, and both are in poor taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:51 PM
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But I would argue that the vast majority of people in this subreddit grew up on these examples, when our prefrontal cortex was the most susceptible. That, and I still can’t find examples of the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:39 PM
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They’re not “rock solid abs and 6’2”, though. To add a few more examples: Philip Banks from ‘Fresh Prince of Bel-Aire, his wife Vivian is thin and conventionally attractive. Doug Heffernan from ‘The King of Queens’, his wife Carrie is thin and conventionally attractive. Fred Flinstone from ‘The Flinstones’, his wife Wilma is thin and conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:35 PM
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But they’re not. Peter was probably a bad example, but Mike and Leonard are consistently shown in a positive light. I agree the fat jokes need to stop and I’m not pointing this out to say “men have no right to feel self conscious”, but rather to demonstrate that I think heavier set men are more represented as protagonists in media, but their partners are always thin despite having 3+ kids (excluding Penny). Fat women are nearly always solely comedic relief.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:29 PM
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I think you may have misread my comment, or I’m misinterpreting yours. Expecting a serial cheater to not cheat on you is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:27 PM
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But there’s also positive representation in there. Maybe Lois and Peter are a bad example, but Penny and Leonard or Mike and Vanessa have a lot of episodes where it demonstrates they clearly love one another. My point isn’t that “henceforth, men have no right to feel poorly about their body”, but more so that media still conveys men who are heavier as heroes/protagonists. I don’t see the same done for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:26 PM
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Sure, I’m not saying they’re treated in an ideal light. I guess my bigger point was that overweight men are still represented in media as protagonists. Often times, fat women are normally comedic side characters. That’s not to say “SEE LOOK WOMEN HAVE IT WORSE” but I’m just pointing out that, in my personal opinion, society seems to view men of a greater variety of weights as more relatable, where as women are pretty much thin across the board (in media).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:23 PM
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I also want to add, like I did in an earlier thread, that overweight representation of men is more mainstream in media than that of women. Peter Griffin in Family Guy, Mike Baxter in Last Man Standing — I’ll add Leonard from Big Bang Theory with the obvious caveat that he is in no way “overweight” but does have more of a belly to him in the show. And all of these men have hot, conventionally attractive thin partners. Being overweight does not bare a man the ability to be the protagonist/hero/get…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:15 PM
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Oh that was someone else lol Sure, but a lot of women do give the soft spoken guy a chance. I am specifically attracted to softer, more quiet guys. I think the issue is that the women who do prefer more extroverted, loud, confident guys are typically extroverted themselves and therefore their opinions are amplified.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:07 PM
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I think it depends. A person expecting a serial cheater to not cheat on them is a little ridiculous. But narcissists, for example, are a lot harder to detect, especially if you don’t have any frame of reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:59 PM
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I’d be pissed off if they insulted anyone’s appearance. “Small dick energy” “land whale” whatever is going to make someone, no matter how physically attractive, mad ugly in my eyes. No one who is secure in themselves as a person needs to shit on other people’s appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:50 PM
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I really dislike the term “high value man” because it seems to suggest that there’s no like. Subjectiveness in dating. That being said, I’d consider someone who is more likely to be successful in dating to probably be open with their emotions (don’t shove things down but also don’t break down sobbing at inappropriate times), takes responsibility for their health and wellbeing (eating in a relatively healthy sense, working out/doing active hobbies, therapy if that’s something they feel they’d ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:41 PM
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I honestly feel like the only thing the populations “standards” need to be kept in check with is media/social media. Men should realize (and most do) that the vast majority of women don’t SOLELY find 9 inch dicks pistoning into her the best way to make her orgasm. Women should realize (and most do) that the vast majority of men cannot become as ripped as Henry Cavill did in Superman without EXTREME dieting and exercising, to the point of being unhealthy. But overall, yeah I think this “women nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:00 PM
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“because age of consent exists… men have to pursue chad widows” That REALLY sounds like you’re blaming age of consent, which is. Super creepy. And even if the age of consent was lowered, those girls would still sleep with the same men (“Chads” in your example), not magically decide to sleep with you. Also what “authority”. Our bodily autonomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:21 AM
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For sure! Here they are. Both pretty interesting reads! https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0310835 — Showed that men tend to overestimate how “masculine” they think women want their face to appear, and vice versa for women with feminine features. https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/bjop.12451 — Showed that men overestimate how muscular women want them to be, and women overestimate how thin men want them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:23 PM
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I think if you try to question any one group, you’re going to get an INCREDIBLY muddled answer. I think that’s why a lot of men feel frustrated with women’s “standards”, because they’re listening to 4 billion different women. And so one woman will say she likes dad bods, another woman will get a boyfriend with a six pack, and sometimes the same women does that, and sometimes they’ll do the opposite, and blah blah blah so on and so forth. I think women do something similar. “No man wants to commi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:56 PM
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True, just a clarification I wanted to make. WHR is controllable to a certain extent. I’d argue that weight loss/exercise for a more “curvy” WHR is similar to posture correction for height. It’ll help a bit but it can’t change things genetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:49 PM
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Yeah that’s a good point too. Actually I think there was a paper about how both men and women think that the opposite sex wants more hypermasculine/feminine features than they actually do. I’ll have to find it when I have access to more stable internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:48 PM
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I just have to make this abundantly clear because I think a lot of people will refute this argument because “well WHR=weight and weight is controllable”: waist-to-hip ratio is controllable to an extent. Even at a perfectly healthy weight with a toned abdomen, not every woman will achieve a 0.7 WHR. Some are more naturally boxy versus “hourglass”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:27 PM
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Us rn <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:11 PM
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I am an educated ✨woman in STEM✨ (trauma surgery provider) with two very conservative parents and I STILL didn’t vote for Trump. Also, a little ironic to shit on journalists while using a source that was written by a political journalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:01 PM
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She’s using etymology to explain her points. You’re using vague insults. If you truly believe your point, you should be able to stand behind it without going “women 🤣🤣🤣”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:57 PM
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Sure. I can see why the desire to do that would be there. I guess what I’m trying to say is that the women who are thirsting over murderers are outliers (just like men who rape are outliers). So I feel like to say “why do women want to date serial killers over nice men” is sort of an oversimplication of the issue, just like saying “why do men want to rape women/other men instead of asking for consensual sex”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:34 PM
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But I think there’s an important distinction between “damaged person” and “child/animal/inanimate object”. I know you’re not saying that those are the same but in my earlier comment that’s what I’m clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:19 PM
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For sure. Sorry, that’s what I meant to say — but it came out wrong. Sherri Panini I think is a great example of hybristophilia in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:34 PM
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Well some women do like dad bods. Now I can’t say that the women who like that figure are women who you individually would be attracted to but they do absolutely exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:27 PM
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DAMN 🥇🥇🥇🥇 take my fake award lol. This is so true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:12 PM
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Literally. We gotta stop making this a gendered issue. We keep grabbing for these weird outliers for both men and women and then using it via confirmation bias as proof that “all men do this” and “all women do that”. There’s a huge difference between being wary around strangers (I think both men and women should have a healthy mindset of skepticism for survival) and actively deciding that “this person with clear mental health issues is representative of every other person of that same sex becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:07 PM
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Sherri Papini somehow still got a boyfriend/fiance after she LITERALLY faked her own kidnapping and then tried to accuse her ex husband of abusing their children by literally. Abusing them herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:00 PM
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I’m not sure where you’re getting that statistic. I would argue Wade is an outlier. The more famous you are, the greater likelihood that you’ll attract insane women who want to sleep with murderers. It’s the same logic behind why women are wary around men they don’t know. The greater the sample size, the higher the likelihood of running into someone who has bad intentions despite the fact that the vast majority don’t have bad intentions. I also don’t think these women are desirable. The women fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:50 PM
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Most, no. But women can certainly have issues. Hybristophilia is likely seen a lot more commonly in women because men are more likely to be sentenced for violent crimes (whether that be biology, unfair judgement of the judicial system, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:42 PM
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Asian people can be racist against other Asians. It’s a form of self-hatred. Same with white people, black people, etc. Again, I think it’s a numbers game. It’s not that more women are fundamentally more attracted to that, it’s that he’s putting himself out there and therefore getting more attention. I’m sure he gets just as much, if not more, hate mail from women. I also think a lot of women, specifically Asian women, may be messaging him as a method of self-preservation. If they insult/fetishi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:58 AM
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Because that guy has a “huge” online presence. The larger your audience, the more likely you are to be pursued by people/hated by people/whatever it is. I also think it’s important to note that the women who are drawn to that type of blog are likely racist themselves, so they find a “safe place” in that blog. But they still don’t represent all women. If we’re arguing “numbers don’t matter”, wouldn’t it only be fair for me to say “incels want to kill women” because of the small number of men who …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:50 AM
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That’s honestly a phenomenon I’ve seen before and have had to be super cautious of myself in fiction specifically. I’ve caught myself being annoyed with a female character (not weight obviously. I’m talking personality traits) and the way she acts, but then I’ll LOVE a male character for doing the exact same thing. It’s this super weird innate bias that I think a lot of society holds where like. A man being aloof and mean is “sexy” and “mysterious” but a woman being the exact same makes her “bit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:47 AM
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OH MY GOD I had a high elf Druid!!! Druids with Astarion is so good because he disapproves of literally Everything we do lmao No no it’s just rivals to lovers 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:43 AM
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me reading the 77th comment today from the same 3 dudes about the “inevitable male uprising” because women. have rights or smthn idk <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:41 AM
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I also think it’s important to mention that overweight men get mainstream representation in media, overweight women don’t. Peter Griffin and the husband Last Man Standing come to mind, where their wives are very slim and conventionally attractive. One of my favorite examples of body positivity in media was Thor in Avengers End Game. His weight wasn’t the problem (he’s a God so we’re gonna ignore obvious health stuff for a second), what mattered was that he was coming back into himself. I can’t i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:02 AM
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I have nothing to add but I really enjoy your takes on this. They’re really nuanced and I always find myself considering a point I hadn’t before!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:20 PM
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This. I could not have worded it better myself. I can sympathize with “I feel like no woman finds me attractive and not getting any dates is really hurting me”, not “I feel like no woman finds me attractive. This is because women’s standards are too high”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:55 PM
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I COULDNT it hurt me too bad BUT one of my friends did both. She said ascension physically hurt her but it was also so worth it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:25 PM
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Thank you. Seriously, reading this shit is horrifying. “Chronic sexlessness may lead to ‘bad outcomes for women’” is a deeply disturbing sentiment. I believe a lot of women would rather face mass suicide far before any of those “outcomes” could happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:10 PM
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BOTH. Astarion was my first but honestly every single one of the romance options are peak
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:01 PM
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No wonder this sub is dying 💀 “I’m right and you’re wrong and no amount of “”studies”” will prove otherwise” is not a promising debate lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:17 AM
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You may just be more introverted than some of your friends. I’m similar. I sort of just go in with the mindset that I probably can’t lower my chances by going out, so might as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:48 AM
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<image> I seriously feel like the OKCupid study suggests otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:43 AM
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If she’s a 6.5, I’d LOVE to know who you think a 8/9/10 is
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 12:23 AM
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IM CRYING
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 12:18 AM
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“and that’s why you’re single and gonna be single for a while” Really constructive to this debate. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:42 PM
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That’s so incredibly true. To be fair, I think there have always been ways to avoid self accountability throughout all of human history, but with mental health become more mainstream we’re finally talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:57 PM
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You’re totally right. It is an insane example of self-victimization.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:55 PM
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Are you trying to have a debate or give an example of textbook gaslighting. You have no clue what she’s heard because you haven’t lived her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:53 PM
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Wow. What a terrible day to be literate 😀
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:22 PM
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I think the inherent issue with your argument is the assumption that love being conditional is a gendered thing, and not a human thing. I don’t think men or women are more likely to leave based on their sex, but on their individual personalities. For example, I have a friend whose brother is now paralyzed and mute from a stroke in his late twenties. The girl who he was seeing for 3 months prior to that has stuck by his side for over a year now. On the contrary, there was a girl in my family whos…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:21 PM
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😭😂 You’ll find your girl!! Keep searching, I guarantee she’s out there 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:03 PM
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Oh perfect!! Lmao that would great for me. For sure! That’s sort of what I’m planning on doing. Husband keeps his, I keep mine. Our kids (if we have any) can have his name as long as my last name can be their second middle name.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:50 PM
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I definitely fit more of the factual things (childless, works out, doesn’t drink, etc) and I value my independence (although I do want to keep my last name which may be a deal breaker for some men, understandably lol). I’d like to think I’m honest, respectful, and reciprocal. At least I do my best to be those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:38 PM
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The original video HAS to be ragebait. “I need to be catcalled in public to feel good about myself” damn girl. Sounds like a you problem, leave the men alone tf
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:32 PM
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Honestly, yeah. I think that’s what a lot of dating troubles come down to. If you’re searching for years with no luck, I’d venture to say that you’re (royal you) more likely the culprit than the entirety of men (or women). That obviously isn’t to say we can’t have discussions about each sex treats their partners but like you said, eventually reality sets in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:23 PM
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LMAO 😭😂 I hope your wives words finally gave her friend some sense. I get being somewhat selective but good lord
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:20 PM
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Damn, facts. I think (personally) it’s less of a gendered thing and more of a human being thing, but I do agree that I haven’t heard any of my guy friends express this sentiment. I have seen it expressed online, but everyone gets a voice online so who knows. 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:17 PM
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I had a friend who used to be like that. She treated her boyfriends like shit and then was surprised pikachu face when they didn’t kiss the very ground she walked on. She did NOT take kindly to me telling her she was the problem lmao 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:12 PM
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HELL YEAH honestly while we’re at it let’s just make it: “innie reproductive organs” and “outie reproductive organs”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:10 PM
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Changing my flair to ‘female’ as we speak 😔✊🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:08 PM
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That’s so bizarre to me when people do that. “I can’t find anyone to date because all men/women are trash” wow it’s not like you’re the common denominator or anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:07 PM
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Ohhhh silly me, how could I forget! 🤪 I’d be fine with it if OP called men “males” but they keep insisting on specifying women as “females” and men as “men”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:05 PM
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Bestie PLEASE just call us women 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:02 PM
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I guess I can’t really speak to that, I’m not a man so I’ve never noticed. Sure, that’s fair. You very well may have a point, and I’m not trying to argue that women always 100% put in more work than the man. My only issue with this particular study is how accurate of a representation it is. It’s entirely self reported, so we don’t know if people are rounding up/rounding down, or just totally guesstimating. I’m not saying that to disregard this survey or say it isn’t a valuable piece of informati…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:25 PM
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Oh man, I’m so sorry you had to go through that. That is a really interesting point, though. I wonder what happened. Social media? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:11 PM
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I think that’s simplifying the issue, though. It’s not that men having downtime is morally wrong. It’s that the men coming home from an 8 hour workday when the woman has also worked an 8 hour workday and expecting to have leisure time while the woman cares for the kids is being called into question. Women have started to enter the workforce but are still seen as the primary caretaker. I don’t have an issue with that if the woman is a SAHM or works part time, but if both partners are working equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:09 PM
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Literally. It’s not a gendered thing, it’s a human thing. But both sexes like to act like they’re the ones with the moral high ground who always take accountability, and things would be so much better if only the other sex did XYZ
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:02 PM
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I know, it’s pretty bad how nasty we are to one another 😭😅
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:58 PM
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Breastfeeding is changing. A lot of women pump and then store their milk so the husbands can deliver the milk. And that’s only a brief period of time when the child is breastfeeding, so it doesn’t account for the rest of the 17 years the child is with the parents. What source do you have that most research done in this area is done by “feminist researchers with an agenda”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:52 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:41 PM
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Do short men not have access to a barber and a clothing store? No amount of “dolling herself up” will change the body composition of an overweight woman, but she’ll look nicer than if she had just rolled out of bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:15 PM
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But I’ve literally never seen a single woman on here, in this subreddit, attest that “saying the looksmatch for fat women are fat men is bashing fat women”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:36 AM
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Yeah but that’s not scientists refusing to acknowledge that being fat can have vast negative impacts on your health. It’s a bunch of people avoiding the problem instead of doing what they can to promote a healthier lifestyle for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 11:11 PM
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Okay show me a study that says that. Show me tangible proof that says “we can’t do research that’s shows women in a bad light” other than “because I can’t find any”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 11:05 PM
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Looks matter. Personality matters too. How is that not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 11:00 PM
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You sure showed me!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:57 PM
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If you’re not going to believe anything I say what is the point in engaging with me? You’re just wasting your own time. Read my comment, roll your eyes, and move on with your day. If nothing I say is credible, then why engage with me at all. I’m probably just in a hysterical female state anyways 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:55 PM
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Ok so I said: “I will not hook up with a man, no matter how sexy he is, if he doesn’t not act respectfully towards me.” Your response was to tag a Reddit post saying you “don’t believe me” because a girl hooked up with a man who treated her fine. How does that disprove what I said. If anything it reinforces my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:26 PM
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Women are more picky, but I don’t believe they (in general) turn down men who are their looksmatch because they perceive themselves to be way hotter than they actually are. This doesn’t have to do with our discussion but it’s also sort of interesting. It’s a study that suggests that both men and women may be more accurate in assessing a woman’s attractiveness than men’s: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2022.884888/full?utm_source=chatgpt.com
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:25 PM
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She said they flirted a bit, he was probably listening to her and not talking over her. 6’5” Chads can be good listeners too. Crazy concept I know Edit: she LITERALLY added that he “kept checking in on her”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:20 PM
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Okay so then why did men look exclusively at womens photos where as women did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:58 PM
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I guess we’ll have to reevaluate in 50 years 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:58 PM
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Sure. And I can’t really provide any evidence that disproves that “women who think they’re hotter than they are are rejecting the men who are equally as hot as they are”, but I don’t think there’s been any research on it. Actually, a lot of studies have found that both men and women are pretty good at rating their own self attractiveness, and are pretty good at mating exclusively with their “looksmatch”. Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886924001909?via%3Dihub W…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:57 PM
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What? I never did one night stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:40 PM
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Okay my fourth source is literally just eye tracking movement to see what men and women look at in OLD profiles (photos, bio, job, political affiliations, etc). Women as a monolith are not going to fake their eye movements to skew some data.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:39 PM
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You’re going to tell me every single article I posted is objectively wrong because you disagree with it. I’m not even trying to paint women as “better” — I am showing they do value finances more than men do. This is biology. Men like appearance more because it represents health and fertility, women like finances more because it represents security.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:31 PM
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Sure, but I think we have to establish if we’re talking about long term or short term relationships, since I think women tend to approach those two things differently (valuing finances more in LTR, attractiveness more in STR). Women are absolutely more picky than men, but I’d argue that the majority of women’s standards aren’t necessarily “too high”. I’m not talking about the chicks breaking down on TikTok that “all men are trash” — that’s just misandry and delusion. But I don’t necessarily thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:30 PM
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I really don’t do one night stands, so nothing. If a REALLY hot guy walks up to me offering a one night stand, I’m still gonna turn him down since we clearly aren’t compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:25 PM
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If a woman is rejecting you solely because she thinks she’s “too hot” for you, then she’s likely shallow and vain. But there’s no scientific studies out there that insist that the SOLE reason women are rejecting men is because women have hyper-inflated sense of self and think they’re too hot for them. In reality, these men could be rejected for multiple reasons (and men can do the same for women, as they have the right to do). So it’s hard for me to take it at face value that “men are getting re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:22 PM
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I mean, to be fair, clubs are hot. Going in with a jacket that could potentially get stolen and having to carry it around all night sucks. And I have never seen a woman spend $300 on her hair SOLELY to go to the club. Having to fight what each sex “leans into” is likely going to take generations to fix, but I’ve seen some positive change in both sexes. Women are learning to not be as passive. So far I’d say it’s going pretty well with more women being taught to negotiate higher pay and getting i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:15 PM
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Pretty much. No one who feels confident in their own skin or likes the way they look would feel the need to “humble” other people. “If I make men/women feel bad enough about themselves, they’ll want to date me”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:07 PM
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I saw a video of “Disney princesses without makeup” AI video and they literally took away Elsa’s eyelashes and eyebrows. Like, not thin and blonde — they were GONE it was so fucking funny 😭😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:02 PM
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He thinks all women are angry because he’s angry. People project their inner feelings onto other people. Probably why he feels the need to “humble women” as well. No one who feels good about themselves cares how other people “rate” themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:59 PM
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Okay, one, women can be misogynistic. Two, literally why do you care. What is so fulfilling to you about “reminding women they’re not as pretty as they think they are” If it pisses you off so much, scroll past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:57 PM
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Agreed. Assortive mating and all that jazz
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:51 PM
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Yes. Oh my god they always have bro 😭😭😭 Why are you acting like she said “looks don’t matter”. She said “the way you carry yourself impacts how attractive you are as a potential partner”. I’m not gonna fuck 6’5” Chad if he can’t ask me a single question about myself or talks over me the whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:50 PM
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Being told that your personality impacts your ability to be desirable is not the same as men and women getting raped. Good lord dude, get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:46 PM
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How did we go from “not physically attracted to” to “hate”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:43 PM
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Literally the fanfics on here: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:40 PM
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“Women aren’t a monolith” proceeds to generalize all women I have literally never seen a woman on here who said “fat women should be able to get fit men”. There’s nothing wrong with not being attracted to fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:36 PM
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As a fit woman who has a medical degree, yeah listen to your PCP 😂 He’s not “wrong” that eating in a calorie surplus = overeating, but neither are you. Eating to the point of vomiting, no matter how skinny you are, is overeating. Overeating literally just means “eating too much”. Whether that’s over time in a calorie surplus or in one sitting doesn’t really matter when we’re simply using solely the term “overeating”. I think people in this subreddit seem to think “fat = gluttonous, skinny (withi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:26 PM
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That is factually not true. Like, scientifically provable. Men prefer appearance, women prefer finances. https://pureportal.strath.ac.uk/en/publications/are-sex-differences-in-preferences-for-physical-attractiveness-an: “Although women preferred mates with good earning capacity more than men did and men preferred physically attractive mates more than women did, we found little evidence that these sex differences were smaller in countries with greater gender equality.” https://business.columbia.e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:13 PM
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Yeah it’s weird how society keeps amplifying “big and beefy” over literally any other body type, especially considering that women do have varying preferences outside of solely “as muscular as humanely possible without being a body builder” (like #13 or #1, I’d argue). So it would be nice to see more lean physiques/higher body fat types presented. It would also make the movies more relatable to other audiences, like Asia who prefers leaner physiques on men. Yeah, body type on women seems to be p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:46 PM
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I always found it sort of weird how Hollywood fetishisizes this “uber buff masculine body” because that’s like. Nearly impossible to get without an insane amount of training and fasting (unless you’re Michael Phelps, and he was swimming like 12 hours a day and had to eat like. 12000 calories to keep up with his metabolism). It’s like expecting all women to be Victorias Secret models. It’s just not a realistic body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:06 PM
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Yeah, I’d turn him down. But what do you mean “incessantly complain”? Don’t follow these people on social media if you don’t want to listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:58 PM
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What is with so many males on here so offended at the sheer existence of fat women. Males don’t have to date them. They realize that, right. No one says males have to be attracted to fat women. A fat woman will post something on social media and the males who are so supposedly disgusted by it will, instead of simply scrolling, take the time out of their day to write essays on how “women having cellulite is disgusting”. And then bitch about why they’re single and how women have no empathy for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:34 AM
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Men and females are actually two entirely different species with completely different brain structures that work in total opposites of one another. Cool PPD Fact!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:31 AM
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posts an article based entirely on a survey that talks about how American women dont like how they’re being treated by society, then followed by a bunch of stuff that is literally saying women are emotionally resilient, likely due to their social support: LOOK HOW SAD YOU WOMEN ARE
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:24 AM
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Read your whole article before posting it. “Women generally report having more purpose in their lives compared to men, often attributed to engaging in more altruistic endeavors.” “But it was also noted that although women took a bigger hit to their wellbeing they were quicker to recover, which seems to indicate that woman are more emotionally resilient than men.” “One of the factors that may contribute towards women’s resilience is social connection. In one 2019 study, researchers found that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:21 AM
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I always roll my eyes after the unironic use of the word “females” 😭😂 It’s so cringey to refer to women as “females” unless you’re also referring to men as “males”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:14 AM
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I guess it’s less “approaching” and more so “gauging interest”/“willingness to engage in a convo” … shit you’re right 😂😂 Listen I’m trying to be as nuanced as possible here but you’re right that’s creepy as shit lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:38 PM
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But self reflection doesn’t mean “damn I’m a shit person”. It can be recognizing that the area you’re in is primarily full of middle aged couples so maybe you should drive to the city once a weekend, or that you could take your hobbies to third spaces if you want to meet someone organically. It doesn’t seem sensible that the ONLY conclusion people come to is this “women only want a small selection of men with these arbitrary traits” as if A: this is exclusive to women and men wouldn’t love a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:34 PM
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The issue is that you’re making these issues black and white, as if it’s that simple. Context matters. If it’s at work, yeah. Don’t approach her. If she looks busy, don’t approach her. But there’s nothing nefarious or malicious about seeing a cute girl in a coffee shop and asking her what she’s drinking or saying you like her shirt or whatever. That’s not creepy, and if she seems uninterested you can just disengage. A lot of women will find it creepy if you go up to a girl in a third space (excl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:13 PM
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Sure. But in hobby groups, it’s not just joining on day one and bee lining for every woman in the club (I’m not saying that’s what you’re doing this is just general advice). It’s enjoying something you’re genuinely passionate about and going there a few times. You’ll attract attention (male and female depending on the ratios) by virtue of simply being there and being willing to engage in small talk/talking about whatever interest the club is about. Running clubs, book clubs, improv, board games,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:06 PM
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You talk to women with similar interests. I promise you we’re not aliens
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:00 PM
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But why is that such a bad thing. Wouldn’t you rather have the thing that’s stopping you from getting dates being something you can self reflect on and change rather than just this weird conspiracy theory of “women only want 0.1% of men” or whatever the new number is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:58 PM
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It’s approaching a woman you already know/have some sort of relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:44 PM
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I genuinely think a lot of it is because a lot of these men haven’t experienced intimate partner abuse, so they can only view it from an outsiders perspective. It’s like asking someone who isn’t completely blind to describe what being completely blind is like. It may seem obvious to them, like “oh. You just see nothing”. But you can’t fathom what “nothing” is like. It’s not just closing your eyes and seeing darkness and calling that “nothing”. It’s like trying to see out of your elbows. Edit: I …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:34 PM
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Not to be dramatic but this was so validating to hear, and so true. I actually had a guy friend in my friend group who was abused by his girlfriend. We didn’t think she was abusive because she was pretty nice. It wasn’t until they had broken up that we heard that he had been suffering in silence for years from emotional abuse on her behalf (he has an incredibly supportive family and group of friends, he just has a tendency to be a little “toxically” optimistic. He could identify that the behavio…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:13 PM
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Of course, but they didn’t have it by virtue of being born with it. They got it by working (mainly jobs women weren’t allowed to have if we’re talking pre-1920’s). If we want to get super technical we can argue that no one owes anyone any money. But having money isn’t equivalent to access to someone’s sexual organs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:54 AM
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I said all the money. You’re saying men don’t owe women equal pay as if all of the money belongs inherently to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:45 AM
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Because men don’t own women’s jobs, all the money, all the public benefits, etc etc. Women own their sexual organs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:23 AM
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I think it’s worth mentioning that if we’re strictly talking about biology here (and taking any emotion out of it), those who had the optimal genes will be able to reproduce. Those who don’t, won’t. It may be biologically imprinted in us to desire to pass on our genes, but I think if we’re speaking in a biology sense then we should add that not all animals will succeed in passing on their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:20 AM
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I mainly do calisthenics and yoga/mat pilates
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:12 AM
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Ohh that makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me, this is really helpful information.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:11 AM
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That’s a really good point, I should’ve clarified that these are the extremists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:08 AM
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For sure. Porn, for the most part, is by men, for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:19 AM
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My biggest issue with (some, mainly on this sub, idk about the rest of RP men) red pillers is that it feels like their main strategy, instead of optimizing themselves as great mates (which is what I thought RP was about), just try to demonize and shit on women until the women feel bad enough about themselves to date them. “Women rate themselves way too high”, “women want Chads until they’ve hit their wall”, “fat women blah blah blah, single women blah blah blah” — none of this is inherently help…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:16 AM
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Don’t get me started on the “soulmate” stuff in fantasy romance. I hate it so much lmao. I think romance sets pretty unrealistic expectations for both sexes. Men have to be strong, buff superheroes who save the world (referencing Marvel), women have to be demure damsels who give up their dream job to settle down (referencing Hallmark), it’s a hot mess of gender roles. So yeah, I’m sure smut plays into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:10 AM
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That is a choice of a decor piece and I respect it so much lmao I wish I could say, honestly. One study says 4-6 inches (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25631708/), another says 7 inches (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224499.2023.2175193#d1e548), if I did an extra five seconds of research I’m sure I could find one that says 8-10.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:08 AM
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It really doesn’t, I agree. A lot of the time it just looks painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:01 AM
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Damn, that’s super interesting. Thank you for the article!! I learned something new today about both men and women lmao go figure
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:08 AM
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Are they? I haven’t heard that before. I’m not saying you’re wrong but I’d be interested if you have any sources on hand about that. I’ve always assumed men and women were at about equal risk for addiction, but men tend to be more disproportionately represented because male mental health is more focused on “suck it up”/“self medicate” where as female mental health is more focused on “cry it out”/“reach out for help”. I could totally be wrong though lol it’s been a while since I’ve done a deep di…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:03 AM
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That’s fair, I can see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:55 PM
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That makes sense. I’m sure women can suffer from this as well, I don’t think it’s strictly a man thing. But I’m also a woman so I really can’t speak for men lol. To be fair, though, I don’t really have a problem with your take. If a woman is uncomfortable with her man watching porn, I think it would be reasonable for that man to assert that he’d rather his partner didn’t read smut. Granted I haven’t ever encountered this issue as I don’t really read smut so I’m open for my mind to be changed sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:54 PM
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Okay but “she’ll do it for the right guy” is a huge leap. How many women do you know adamantly refused anal until she meet her “perfect man”, and then she was gung ho about anal? Suggesting that people will do things they’re uncomfortable with for the right partner is a really creepy thing to say. If I’m uncomfortable with “double penetration”, no amount of 6’5” finance bros is going to change that. Men and women shouldn’t be manipulated into thinking they’re withholding crazy sex acts because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:50 PM
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Yeah, pursue whatever makes you (royal you) feel happy and fulfilled. Nothing wrong with that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:42 PM
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I think, and I could be wrong, that porn tends to rub women (in particular) the wrong way because it can lead to men having unrealistic expectations about sex and women’s bodies. For example, I’ve encountered a few guys on this sub who insist that women like taking huge dicks exclusively because they take 12 inch dildos in porn and seem to be enjoying themselves. I’m sure women are susceptible to the same kind of thing but it doesn’t seem like women consume visual porn as often. As for smut, I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:37 PM
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Fair enough, I can’t argue with that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:27 PM
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But what about platonic love or familial love? There’s a lot more types of love outside of “romantic” love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:18 PM
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I am incredibly skeptical of that OKCupid study. For one, the guy who did it didn’t list his methodology. So we don’t know if he surveyed 20 people or 20,000 people. Second, a lot of men don’t take photos that do them justice. That isn’t to shit on them, it’s just that women will often spend a lot more time taking a lot more photos to put on the right angle. Combine that with makeup and doing their hair, women will do a lot more to appear more “attractive” in their photos. If you compare that to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:53 PM
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I can definitely agree with that. Some of my friends are engineers or computer people and they’ll say how more than half their day is spent doing housework 😂 Obviously they’re still getting paid but it is sort of funny how so many “tasks” feel like busy work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:39 PM
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I agree with you about assortive mating, but I’m unsure what you mean by women needing to lower their standards being “well documented”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:37 PM
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I feel like I’d need an example of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:02 PM
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Holy shit thank you for that. I was working during COVID and ventilators were literal LIFE savers. Better start popping out sons so they can do the important jobs for us 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:01 PM
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I would say a LOT of women have incredibly important jobs, as do men, depending on your definition of “important”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:00 PM
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Exactly. At least that’s what I personally think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:58 PM
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I so badly wish I had an award. So true 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:19 PM
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Changing my flair from “woman” to “wet hole”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:17 PM
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I am begging for a mere CRUMB of your emotional intelligence. 😩 (/genuine, not trying to be sarcastic lol). This is so true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:16 PM
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Me, a trauma surgery provider: wow I sure am useless because I have a ✨vagina✨
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:13 PM
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Where did she say she was mediocre. You’re getting offended by something she never said and then talking down to anyone who points out that you put words in her mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:40 PM
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Again, where.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:05 PM
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I’ve never seen these before. I’m sure they exist but I’d want to see an example since my algorithm has never shown me a post like that before. Regardless, I treat posts like that the same way I treat those stupid “street interview” ones — as rage bait. Either that or those small subsection of women are delusional but don’t represent the vast majority of women who aren’t making posts about being single and 40 because why would they. Reasonable takes are never seen or amplified on TikTok because …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:48 PM
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LMAO for real
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:43 PM
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I feel like the vast majority of men have a lot to offer, flaws and all. I think the small few who are complaining that women need to lower their standards are the ones who refuse to evaluate what they have to offer and if that’s mutually beneficial in a relationship. Same with women who complain “all men are trash”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:42 PM
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Literally where. Where will women say “I’m single and 40 because of misogyny.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:39 PM
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When did I say that was an extreme statement? Saying “women can be gold digging whores who are incapable of love” is not the same as “men/women can be abusive”. The latter statement is objectively true. The first one just uses insults to try to get a point across. If you want to say the first one in a venting setting or whatever, have at it. But saying that in a debate setting where you’re trying to have a constructive argument about gender is not going to wield the same results. If someone make…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:46 AM
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Well, yeah, because that’s an extreme way to put it. It comes across as bad faith becaude of how emotionally charged it is. “Some women/more often women than men care more about a man’s ability to financially provide for her lifestyle than the man himself”. comes off as less emotional and therefore easier to engage with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:53 PM
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I’m not denying that there’s definitely truth to parts of this, but I do want to challenge that looking for traits outside of physical appearance makes someone opportunistic. I think a good chunk of people decide physical appearance is less important to them because looks can and will fade, but personality (I’m gonna assume that’s what’s being talked about here, sorry if I interpreted that wrong) will relatively stay “consistent” (you can obviously change and morph your personality). I also thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:25 AM
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I consistently get asked to dinner, and I always turn it down for coffee (with the offer of me paying or splitting). If we aren’t compatible, why force ourselves to sit through a 2 hour uncomfortable conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:39 AM
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No you’re WRONG (ok now reject me next) (In all seriousness, definitely agree on this!)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:31 AM
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Generalizing an entire population with “all men” or “all women” is reductive and counter productive the end 🙂‍↕️ The world is so much more nuanced than that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:30 AM
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This guy gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:26 AM
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https://preview.redd.it/4fzth2xsuvxe1.jpeg?width=888&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=deb1cd4bf555616fc9d2a177d0619229e729b709
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:26 AM
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You definitely aren’t alone, but it does get easier! Oh sweet!! I know, finding a book club can be super frustrating. If you happen to have any friends who have book clubs, that can be a great place to start. Otherwise maybe just start advertising one at the club? 🤪 Best of both worlds! Nah, it’s not weird! You like what you like, nothing wrong with that. If you’re trying to pursue more FWB things I don’t think going to the bar/club is a bad idea, you definitely can’t LOWER your chances doing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:22 AM
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Oh man, I’m so sorry about your ex dude. You deserve a wonderful relationship! So I don’t actually “regularly” go out to bars/clubs, but I’m a woman so I’ll give it a shot. I don’t think bars/clubs are BAD places to meet someone, but I do think it depends on what type of relationship you’re looking for. I think bars/clubs give off very “I just want to have fun tonight” vibes, so even if you’re feeling up on a girl and get her number, the likelihood that she follows through is probably lower in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:12 AM
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LMAO 😭😂😂 we gotta start marketing that oh my god
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:37 AM
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I love that!! 🥹💕 Here’s to a lifetime of happiness for you and your hubby!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:37 AM
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Oh man. I’m really sorry that happened to you. That sounds really hard, I’m glad you’re in a better place now (and that some of the people who bullied you have experienced Character Growth lol). All in all, yeah I’d love to see reframing masculinity in a way that encourages men to be more vulnerable with one another, build support groups with other men, and to build one another up. I personally have seen a lot of really sweet male friend groups throughout my life. Lots of “ride or die brothers” …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:51 PM
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This is why I don’t answer the “question for women” stuff anymore unless it seems to be in good faith. If I don’t answer how they want, I’m lying. If I do answer how they want, it’s because all women are [insert some weird negative quality here]. And I don’t think that’s inherently specific to “question for women”. I just think that that one in particular is amplified because the group on this subreddit that seem to be asking these “gotcha” questions seems to be mainly doomsday/tate pilled men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:47 PM
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I mean I genuinely wouldn’t know since I’ve never hired a sex worker. I did some quick Googling though and it seems like sex workers (in legalized places) can go anywhere from $50-$300 an hour. Depending on how high an individual considers his libido to be, that could easily be the cost of gas, groceries, or more throughout the course of a week/month. It’ll add up fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:34 PM
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Men say that all of the time about themselves. “We’re simple creatures, we don’t need much, yada yada”. I don’t think men are simple because I don’t think humans are simple. I have literally never put on makeup with the intention of “sure can’t wait to make men think I’m sexier than I actually am so they’ll want to fuck me.” It enhances my features, it’s the same as choosing a shirt that you think makes your arms look big or bulky or whatever. I’m gonna be super for real with you, I have NEVER m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:32 PM
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I don’t have a problem with legalizing sex work, but don’t you think that would only grant sex to men who make enough money to be able to hire sex workers? You’d still end up with the same issue that only people above a certain tax bracket could afford sex workers regularly enough to satisfy their desire for sex (assuming they’re high libido) that they don’t feel the need to use OLD for hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:13 PM
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Wearing make up is not a secret what 😭 Do you think we get together on Saturdays and talk about the best ways to contour to “fool the men”? Just look on YouTube, there’s PLENTY of tutorials.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:03 PM
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I’m SOBBING. “Anne Hathaway and Scarlett Johnsen prove men’s diversity of preference” wow yeah two conventionally attractive white women. You got us, men are so diverse 🤪 (I do believe a lot of men have a variety of preferences I just think this the most ridiculous example to prove it)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:00 PM
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Oof, the truth. It hurts 🥲😩
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:01 PM
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I think your overall premise is pretty nuanced and brings up a lot of points I’ve never considered. I don’t necessarily 100% agree with it but I’m also not the sole authority on what is objectively right and true in the universe lol. I have limited time so I do want to ask — you mentioned that you felt like having a crush on a girl was harassment. Do you mind expanding on that? I’m interested in your perspective that led you to believe your feelings were inherently aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:20 AM
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😂😂😂 Hey you should start a podcast!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:48 AM
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Never said I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:47 AM
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Why’d you just copy and paste exactly what OP said
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:46 AM
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I glanced at her post history and OP seems to frequent a “submissive wife” subreddit that’s about a book all about. Being a submissive wife. These poor women are writing essays about “how to apologize to my husband for disagreeing with him and he’s been giving me the silent treatment for 2 days for ‘disrespecting him’.” Straight up I am not exaggerating that is one of the posts. And all the comments are “he’ll come around he’s just mad you disrupted his peace”. I would rather pluck out all of my…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:48 AM
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Fair point, I can see why that wouldn’t really solve the issue. I still think men should have high standards for women prior to entering into a relationship as women do for men but I also get there’s not a lot of incentive for that. Well on the bright side, some scientists predict that we’re reaching earths maximum carrying capacity so… yaaaaaaaay (???) lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:37 AM
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😂😂😂 Well of course, but you’re the only exception. Everyone else here needs to touch grass 🙂‍↕️ Besides me of course. I am also always 100% right and have never had a biased view on anything ever in my entire life
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:35 AM
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No, that’s due to financial autonomy of women, societal norms shifting (decrease in the amount of married couples raising children if we’re defining “single mothers” the same way the U.S. Census Bureau does, which is unmarried women with children), the reduction of the middle class (leading to a higher incidence of single mothers because they don’t want to get married to their partners as marriage can be a financial commitment and many couples want to wait to be financially stable prior to getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:34 AM
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Because people will make these absolutist claims that can easily be deferred by looking up 5 of your peers on Facebook. There’s no nuance in these claims, so they can easily be disproven.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:08 AM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:17 AM
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LITERALLY 😭😂 Oh god we’re all cooked…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:16 AM
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OHHHHH thank you that makes a LOT more sense 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:16 AM
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I may have totally missed this so I’m sorry if you explained this already, but would you mind defining “frame” for me? I’m sort of having a hard time following since I don’t have a definition to go off of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:43 PM
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Holy shit you’ve cracked the code
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:34 PM
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Lowkey a huge reason why I’m apprehensive about having kids myself. I’m a healthcare provider, I spend my entire day pouring myself into others (not attempting to garner sympathy/pity, I am incredibly happy and fulfilled by what I do), and the thought of having to do that while at home sounds exhausting. That being said, I am personally not about my husband being the “leader” in every aspect of our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:14 PM
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I get what you’re saying, but I’d argue it’s a lot more nuanced than that. Women have evolved to vet our potential partners more closely because we have greater risks with pregnancy. While men can have pretty much as many offspring as they want during their lifetimes, women can only have a few and are often left with the primary responsibility of raising them (from an evolutionary perspective). Furthermore, because women now have access to high income careers, financial incentive is a lot less i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:12 PM
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Mmm that’s a really good point, I didn’t even think about that. I wanna get a little more context from OP to understand what she means by letting her husband “lead” but I’m glad you brought this up, I didn’t even consider how that could alter her children’s perceptions of gender roles and their attitudes towards themselves/how they treat the other sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:27 PM
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I want to ask made you decide to embrace a softer side? You said you “resisted” and your husband “found you to be too intense”. Would you mind elaborating on that? I feel like there’s some missing context there. Edit: changed my comment a little to reflect an altered opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:17 PM
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You know a man and woman are meant to be if the man is flaccid to the point of inversion and the woman’s vagina is dehydrated 🙂‍↕️ (just trying to be silly, not attempting to shit on your post OP lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:07 PM
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I can agree with the overall sentiment that “if you want someone who is adventurous, you should also be adventurous”, but I think it’s a little silly to chastise either men or women for looking for qualities that they find attractive. A lot of people find humor and intelligence attractive, I don’t think men or women should just automatically vet those people out because they’re “too good for them”. I’ve seen a lot of successful examples of “opposites attract” (extroverted vs introverted, type A …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:57 PM
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(Sorry!! I didn’t mean to reply to your comment — I agree whole heartedly.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:56 PM
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I have nothing useful to add other than this made me laugh so hard. “Sorry, this isn’t gonna work, you’re way funnier than me. I need my vag to be bone fucking dry to know we’re compatible and you’re not gonna leave me”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:45 PM
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The guy assumed she was “just wrong” without any argument even being present. He has no clue what stance she’s taking when she’s being accused of “gaslighting”, he’s just assuming she’s objectively wrong every time she’s being accused of gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:39 PM
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Yeah those women suck at debating too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:38 PM
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LMAO so that’s why they insult all women. 💀💀💀 But remember any woman who is happy being single is actually lying and coping because how dare anyone be happy when they’re miserable. The world revolves around them remember
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:21 PM
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It’s so funny to me. Both men and women will make egregious claims about the opposite sex that are so easily disprovable by simply. walking outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:14 PM
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Then they go “I’m not explaining the word to you since you clearly don’t know what it means” wow 10/10 argument you win 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:12 PM
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Immediately assumes you must always be wrong because you’re a woman 💀💀💀 Didn’t realize we were still in the 1900’s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:10 PM
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I used to be pretty dead set on having kids. Now (and with our economy lol help me) I’m not so sure after seeing what a lot of my peers (mid twenties) are already dealing with, along with women only ten years older than me? I really don’t think I want to sign up for that. I’ve heard so many horror stories of the marriage being perfectly equal until kids come along. I can’t do that to myself or my future children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:57 PM
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Also aren’t we like. Facing overpopulation? What is with everyone’s obsession with making more babies scientists have estimated we’re about to plateau in population because we are going to start running out of resources to provide for all our people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:46 PM
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I cannot wait until we get to an age in our society where men can simply choose to not date single women/fat women instead of ragging about them online for having the audacity to exist in their space and not look like Maddison Beer. 💀 And I’m saying this as a mid twenties woman with no plans for kids and who puts a lot of effort into maintaining a fit physique (I’m a healthcare provider so I feel like I should practice what I preach and I am fortunate enough to not have any comorbidities that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:25 PM
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Red Pill men will say anything to convince themselves they’re actually oppressed by “women” 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:47 PM
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Sure, but I don’t feel like women should have to lower their standards in order to make the world “more fair” for this small group of men. It’s not fair to the women nor to the men because no one wants to feel settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:25 PM
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I’m someone who prefers to take the high road, I guess. If a man refuses to take accountability, I cut things off with him or refuse to engage. Totally fine if you don’t agree with my approach but I stand by what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:48 PM
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Oh for sure not. I definitely wasn’t trying to insinuate that, I was more so alluding to different socialization. Men are just as capable as women as handling domestic duties. I’m not attempting to defend men, just approach the situation with as much nuance as I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:33 PM
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Fair enough, I can only really speak to my own experience so my narrative is definitely biased lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:25 AM
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I do want to add, in the second example the kid asked her after she got a boyfriend. In the screenshot he shared, he said “I know this is a bad time because you have a boyfriend now” (not an exact quote just paraphrasing). Obviously I’m not trying to defend her but I think that adds to the nuance of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:12 AM
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Not exactly. What I was going for in my example is that both of them are full time workers. Granted I should’ve specified that so that’s a fair assumption to make, my bad on being vague about that. Things get a lot different when one partner is SAH, but I’m talking about the more modern approach where it seems like both partners work full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:02 AM
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Sure, that’s fair. I think that’s a good point and something to be aware of. It’s like the female version of “staying late at work” when no work needs to get done (granted now women can pull that too but I’m speaking in broad terms right now lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:48 AM
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DAMN that’s honestly so true and something I hadn’t even considered. Yeah jealousy of pets is just. Super bizarre. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:41 AM
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I think you may have a warped view of how women treat their husbands during this time. I’m not saying that never happens, but both vaginal brith and cesarean sections are body-altering events. It takes months for the body to go back to normal. It’s not that women are withholding affection intentionally, they’re sleep deprived (like the men) and their bodies are getting back to pre-pregnancy body. These men aren’t superfluous, there’s many ways they can be involved in a newborn babies life. Wakin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:39 AM
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Yeah. I think society as a whole would benefit a lot more if we shifted the message from “what can others do for me/bring to the table for me” to “what do I contribute to a relationship as an individual”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:33 AM
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Oh man. I’m really sorry you had to go through that. Yeah, jealousy of pets and children just raises a lot of alarm bells for me. There’s a MASSIVE difference between “I feel like I’m being pushed to the wayside, what compromise can we reach where you feel like I’m doing my fair share of labor and supporting you and our common goal, and I feel like spending time with me is important to you,” and “My wife stopped having sex with me after our kid was born so now I’m entitled to an affair”. I’m bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:28 AM
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Good lord, that’s so sad and gross. I think this is what a lot of people mean when they say they’d rather be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:08 AM
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Which is fair. I mean at the end of the day I’m not really personally affected by “not all women but always a woman”, but I really can’t think of a scenario where “not all men but always a man” is literally. 100% true, if that makes any sense. I’ve met women who ghost, cheat, yada yada. I really can’t think of any type of negative (or positive) behavior that is SPECIFIC to either sex. Edit: I don’t know if you’ve checked out the thread recently for your second example, but the boy is getting a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:04 AM
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Dang, this is really nuanced and honestly something I haven’t considered in so much depth. I appreciate the perspective!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:57 AM
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Congrats on your wedding!!! 🥹💕💕 May you have a lifetime of happiness together!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:47 AM
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I don’t necessarily disagree with your premise. “If she wanted to, she would” sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Like another commenter said, it’s a great way to manage your expectations and not romanticize the actions of someone who may not reciprocate your feelings/isn’t willing to put in equal effort (AKA treating you as a backup option or whatever). I’m not a huge fan of the “not all men but always a man” sentiment only because it solely places blame on men as being perpetrators of poor beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:44 AM
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I would be so down for that honestly lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:36 AM
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I’ve actually thought about this quite a bit. What I think happens is that men and women are both socialized pretty differently when it comes to household chores. So a good chunk of them watch their mothers do the chores and cleaning (whether or not she’s working), and watch their father work quite a bit with overtime and all that fun jazz. Cool, pretty evenly split. So when they’re young children, they’re both taught to clean, until the young boys are taught to take on the outside chores. Becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:24 AM
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LMAO WHAT…. That’s. Real Bizarre. I love when people act like an entire group of people are basically just animals dressed up as humans and their behavior should be “studied” so it can be “manipulated”. So nice 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:50 PM
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If a guy has to call himself a “good guy” for “listening to women”, he’s not a good guy. I’m not a “good woman” for treating men as equals. I’m not a “good white woman” for treating people of color as equals. I’m not a “good cis hetero woman” for treating LGBTQ+ people as equals. I’m literally just doing what every normal human being on planet earth should be doing. You (royal you) don’t get a prize for being a kind person. There is no incentive, there is no prize money, there is no 47 virgins w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:00 PM
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Idk, carry pepper spray around? What are you trying to insinuate, that now all the “mean scary misogynistic men” are gonna come and rape women because all the women have “chased the good men away”? Why is women having boundaries and therefore politely rejecting some men in public such a horrific outcome for some men. I have literally seen Zero “good men” actually “listen to women and walk away” because the “good men” are not internalizing women wanting boundaries as some personal attack. They ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:54 PM
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An equal helping of looks and personality will get you WAYYYY farther than the whole “666” mantra will 😂 Heavy agree
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:39 PM
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Thank you!! Sure, and fair enough. I should’ve added more: I would consider it emotional cheating if you were A: romantically interested in the person to begin with and B: prioritizing time with them OVER your partner on a repeated basis. So going out to dinner with them instead of going home to help out with the kids or something. And even that is a case by case basis that requires context. Again, that’s just my opinion. I am not trying to insinuate I am some “moral authority” on this and anyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:09 PM
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It’s this “elusive perfect man” that apparently a small group of guys has decided 100% of all women solely desire and anything less is “us settling”. 6 foot tall (or more), 6 inch dick (or more), and makes over 6 figures a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:05 PM
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I think this is very dependent on every one’s individual relationships. As in there’s no “this is the EXACT definition of emotional cheating and the parameters of it”. Instead, it’s up to each couple to set boundaries and decide what, for them, constitutes as emotional cheating. That being said, for me personally I think emotional cheating is when you begin to priortize someone else over your partner in an emotional sense. For example, if you were to stay late to have one on one dinner with a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:00 PM
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Holy shit this was so insightful, this is a great comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:14 PM
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I never identified myself as a feminist, I was just explaining talking points I’ve heard them use. Okay. I’ve heard all of these be criticized by feminists since feminism is such a widespread group that even feminists don’t agree with other feminists. The Duluth Model in particular is stupid. The Istanbul Convention makes somewhat sense given their geographical connection to the Middle East. Anyone who thinks Amber Heard didn’t blatantly abuse Johnny Depp is engaging is misandry. I would argue t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:37 PM
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No, I’m asking for examples on how feminism has advocated against gender neutral approaches where the man is the sole perpetrator
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:11 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:56 PM
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Why are we equating people being single to “being unwanted trash”. Good lord. Stop putting your entire self worth in if you can get into a relationship or not. If we’re specifically talking about this sub, I have never seen a guy on here say “who would possibly want a loser like me” and not follow it up with “because women’s standards are too high”. Is the accountability in the room with us?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:56 AM
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Empathy can’t be demanded. I don’t feel empathy for a man who blames all of his dating struggles on “women’s hypergamy”, just like I don’t feel empathy for a woman who blames all her dating struggles on “men are trash”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:48 AM
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I’m not purposefully trying to be obtuse or talk down to you, but I think it’s important that I point out that I didn’t specify MAGA. I’ve included any and all major activist/political groups — democrats, republicans, liberals, conservatives, Christian’s, Scientologists, etc etc. I get what you’re saying (I think, correct me if I’m wrong), but that’s what happens with every and all groups. I’m not saying we should just wave it off or be purposefully obtuse to it, but this isn’t unique to feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:51 AM
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I’m not purposefully trying to be obtuse or talk down to you, but I think it’s important that I point out that I didn’t specify MAGA. I’ve included any and all major activist/political groups — democrats, republicans, liberals, conservatives, Christian’s, Scientologists, etc etc. I get what you’re saying (I think, correct me if I’m wrong), but that’s what happens with every and all groups. I’m not saying we should just wave it off or be purposefully obtuse to it, but this isn’t unique to feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:51 AM
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It can feel kind of frustrating that the advocation of men’s rights never feels like it’s brought up by men unless it’s in retaliation to women’s rights. A lot of the guys here that I see get so up in arms about, for example, lack of male teachers in schools don’t seem to be going to r/MensLib and discussing those things there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:28 AM
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Sure, fair point. 50% was probably pretty generous. But I still feel like my point stands — if you’ve ever listened to either Fox News or CNN (again, sorry for the American-centric examples), both political leaders of each side can be pretty condescending. It’s really infuriating, but it’s not a trait unique to either party. It’s just an unfortunate part of A: human nature and B: getting people riled up (either for or against whatever agenda is being pushed) via rage/anger is a great way to keep…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:12 AM
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Sure, I hear you. Again I can’t really comment because I don’t listen to CBC radio but I’m sure it’s possible. I think the big issue is a lot of feminists don’t agree with feminists. When you include 50% of the population into an activists right movement, you get a LOT of screaming and arguing, no matter how noble your cause. You sort of have to drown out a lot of noise and do your best to make informed decisions on what you feel is the best way to go about things. Being condescending about cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:02 AM
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I am so glad you loved my incoherent rambling 😂💕
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:45 AM
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Thank you!! 🥹💕
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:44 AM
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Do you have any examples? I’m not saying you’re wrong, I just don’t think I can actively participate in the conversation if I don’t have the same context you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:44 AM
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I’m not a man so I don’t feel like I really get a say, but that is certainly a discussion that can be had. I will say, circumcision has become significantly more widespread in part because it significantly reduces the likelihood of penile cancer (1). However, educating young boys on the importance of pulling their foreskin back and cleaning it may be just as efficient. 1: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3139859/#:~:text=We%20identified%20eight%20papers%20which,is%20available%20to%20auth…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:46 PM
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No worries! I’m missing quite a few (advocacy for men speaking out about being rape victims, etc etc.) but I feel like those are pretty pressing ones that should be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:26 PM
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Oh I love that!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:23 PM
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This feels very “gotcha”-ey but I’ll bite. Yes, of course. Focusing on only one sex’s equality while being purposefully obtuse to the others is just. Stupid. But there are absolutely ways in which feminism advocates for equality for both sexes. — inclusion of women in the draft, particular in combat (American Civil Liberties Union, Security Women, etc.) Or getting rid of the draft all together, take your pick — advocacy of male mental health — advocacy of reducing and calling out IPV against men…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:13 PM
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I mean, the “ideal” partnership is the one that feels the most fulfilling to you and your partner. There’s no “one size fits all” in romantic relationships. If being in a traditional gender roles partnership feels fulfilling to you, then hell yeah girl more power to you (and yes, I’d say the same thing to a man looking to pursue a traditional relationship). As long as you aren’t shoving it down other people’s throats that this is the only RIGHT relationship (yes I’d say the same thing to the opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 05:22 PM
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I don’t think you understand how abuse works. People don’t come out right out the gate dick swinging. Abuse builds up over time. Abusers find out what their victims will and won’t tolerate. It’s not a black and white thing, it takes a while. You punch your partner in the face nine months into the relationship, you feel horrible and say it was a one time thing, you’ll never do it again. You do it again. It keeps spiraling. Saying women shouldn’t get any sympathy is dangerous because men can be ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:41 PM
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I think what I might be missing here is does she continue to do those things despite you telling her “hey, cut it out, when you do that I feel embarrassed and infantilized” or whatever. Because if she does, that’s not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:23 PM
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OP: “take accountability where you can in your dating struggles.” This guy: “yeah fuck women’s shelters” Lmao what
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:20 PM
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Maybe I’m missing something super obvious here but I feel like if someone loved you, they wouldn’t disrespect you/they’d at least attempt to not disrespect you. What do you mean by disrespect?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:05 PM
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Genuinely all of this, 100%. Anyone who looks at relationships as “I am The Main Character” is bound to give their partner an unfulfilling relationship. Existing and being attractive is not enough for any mentally sound person. Car coming in for service 😭😭😂 That’s such a good analogy, and so true. I feel like the majority of people get the most pleasure from sex (specifically in LTR but maybe other areas too idk) when they’re both being pleasured and pleasuring their partner. It’s enjoyable to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 03:44 PM
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Ooo I love that, I’ll have to check that out! I am all for getting into a relationship with a guy and making him feel desired and pursued 🙂‍↕️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:54 PM
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I hate the “be treated like a queen” trend. I’ve only had it said to me by girls who thought that a blowjob was an acceptable birthday gift for their partner. I’m fine with “I want to be treated like a queen” IF there’s an addition of “and I am going to treat my man like a king”. The word “queen” to me signifies servitude from your partner. I don’t care how hot you are, NO one is all that and a bag of chips. So yeah, just a small vent on how I hate that saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:32 PM
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Yeesh. I’m sorry you went through that. I mean, sure, there’s obviously a possibility she was presenting two different “sides” to both of y’all. But I feel like your conclusion is missing some context. Applying this to all women based on your experience with one doesn’t seem entirely truthful. Maybe I’m the weird woman here, but I just don’t think I’ve ever personally experienced that or heard of other women doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:15 AM
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Idk when they started dating. Maybe he just got a raise. Maybe he just got a new job he’s been working super hard for. If they break up, it’s not his problem. How many women do you see in here begging him “no don’t break up with her, where will she go?!1?1!1?!1!11 🥺🥺🥺🥺” you’re the one making up that narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:05 AM
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For sure. I think this is true for the vast majority of people, regardless of sex. I can’t speak for men, but I can say that a good majority of my guy friends have expressed this exact same sentiment. I mean, I’m a lot more composed in front of my boss than I am in front of my close friends. Now I don’t really think it goes into extremes of “good girl” side vs “raw untamed” because that just sounds like. A mental illness. Or a girl who’s fucking with one of the guys. But demeanor can definitely …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:52 PM
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I thought we were both trolling. Either that or you’re doing some weird “gotcha” thing that isn’t working because the vast majority of women don’t date men for financial security.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:43 PM
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Sure do buddy! I fucking hate other women, golly gee wilikers!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:40 PM
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Very nice trolling effort, super impactful to the conversation. 10/10. OP, there’s nothing wrong with you. You’re well within your right to feel this way. It sounds like (I could be wrong) that the core of your issue is her lack of ambition and drive (I don’t know what her goals/ambitions are, I’m just going based on what you said). Especially if you worked hard to get where you are. While someone can be ambitious in other areas but not their career, it may be more attractive to you/more compati…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:31 PM
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I’m really sorry, that sounds incredibly tough and isolating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:28 PM
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Yeah, hence why I don’t really feel like it’s an issue in and of itself
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:36 PM
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At least it was on their terms and not what someone else wanted 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:35 PM
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They’re crying “misogynist” because you literally used the word “shame”. Why does a trad guy care about what some 30 year old does with her life if it’s not hurting him. It’s equally sexist if a trad woman tries to shame a man in his 30’s for doing those same things. There’s nothing inherently wrong with age gap relationships, it’s hard to make a blanket statement about them because each one is different. I would argue that the vast majority of age gap relationships are mutually beneficial and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:22 AM
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I thought it went without saying that each sex wants an attractive partner. We’re not going to say “yeah you can try being nice but you’re too ugly for anyone to want you,” because A: we don’t know how attractive you are and B: we assume you’re gonna end up with someone about the same “level” of attractiveness as you are. If you (Royal you) want Margot Robbie no amount of “being nice” is gonna do any good, but if you shoot within your “league” it can’t hurt your chances to be kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:06 AM
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I think because a lot of people assume you’re already doing that. Either that, or we get push back that the person can’t afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:03 AM
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Oh for sure. Women are just as bad in terms of the stuff they say about men, I was just bringing up this in particular because I thought it was relevant to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:46 AM
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Sure. Again, obvious caveat that I’m talking about a very small group of men who say this sort of stuff. I was more so poking fun at the dichotomy I see on here from this small group. Two from the same guy but both equally annoying generalizations: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/25hfxRqsA9 https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/rZPVBJk67C https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/8ZQBPyAIEV (which, btw, not true: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01602896990…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:18 AM
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Isn’t that their prerogative, though? I’m not gonna sit down with a guy I’m not attracted to and tell him “don’t even bother”. It’s not my business what he does
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:25 AM
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Why is it our job to tell ugly men whether or not they’re attractive to all women. Ask stupid questions, win stupid prizes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:56 PM
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You literally made a hyperbole up first lmao what 😂 no one’s telling a 5’4” dude he can be in the NBA
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:48 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/uswpo89kcvwe1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58cac4a821a49dc59bee26941631ead3d3be412b
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:39 PM
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(19-21), specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:36 PM
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I would consider myself a “successful” woman (I work as a provider in healthcare, I mainly do trauma surgery and emergency medicine), but I’ve never felt like men were “intimidated” by me. I don’t know why they would be, it’s just my career. That’s a small part of me, not the whole picture. The vast majority of men in real life have treated me as an equal. I (personally) feel like this is a media trope more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:15 PM
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They mean don’t make up fake interests and backstories to try to “sell” yourself. Don’t pretend you love painting if you secretly hate it, you’ll just end up with a chick who forces you to go to sip and paints all the time. Not literally “don’t try to be appealing”.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:03 PM
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My brother in Christ just date women you think are hot. If you hate them so much for being “ugly” you literally do NOT have to date them 😭😂 tf
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:01 PM
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No one’s saying “if you’re nice to women you’ll get an Instagram model” (or “NBA” in this example). We’re saying “be nice” because that’s the only thing you CAN do. It’s no one’s responsibility to tell you “sure, you can try being nice but you’re too short for anyone to consider you” because A: not our job and B: we literally cannot know that. We can’t speak for every single woman and what they’re attracted to. You may not be able to play in the NBA but no one’s gonna stop you from playing a rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:50 PM
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… because they’re kids. Little boys walk around in Spiderman suits, that doesn’t mean they’re being “conditioned” to be superheroes. It’s fun for kids to make believe and put themselves in fantasy worlds. When I was young, romance was the LEAST interesting part of princess movies to me. Why do you think Frozen and Moana are so popular right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:36 PM
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I have never wanted to award a comment so badly. Thank you. Literally all of this, 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:28 PM
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How did you get “don’t try to be appealing” from “listen actively and have ambitions”. That’s literally trying to be appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:24 PM
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LMAO LITERALLY. What I don’t understand is how in the world did women figure this out, but men didn’t. I knew from a pretty young age that a guy needed to be attracted to me before any amount of “niceness” would get me anywhere. (Some) Men in this sub: We are the mentally strong gender, we aren’t as weak willed and gullible as women. Also the same exact men: society gaswit me 🥺👉👈
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:22 PM
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How can you both want women romantically and also want all of them to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:41 PM
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Well I’d like to know what your response would be. What tangible advice could you give me, a total stranger, that isn’t “just be nice to men”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:33 PM
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I don’t think this is specific to women, though, I just think that there’s a lack of nuance. Yes, some women do not want to be approached. Those women will just turn you down, and you walk away, no harm no foul. If you literally just go up and say “hey, I like your jacket” or whatever and she responds by screaming at you and calling you a creep, she’s probably unhinged and is gonna look like the insane one. I think there’s a substantial portion of men who think approaching means “a pick up line”…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:23 PM
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What do you want women to say, though? There’s no “cheat code” to getting a woman to be attracted to you. If a man is asking for advice on how to get a woman to be into him, the ONLY tangible advice I can give him is “be nice” because I don’t know him, I don’t know the kinds of women he’s into, I don’t know his geographical location and how culture influences mating practices in his area — the only thing women can say to optimize the chance of a guy getting a chick is to be nice. That’s literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:12 PM
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THANK YOU holy shit this is so validating to read. It would be asinine to blame a man for getting abused by a woman because “wow looks like you suck at judging character huh lmao” so idk why there’s a small group of guys on here who love to do the reverse so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:05 PM
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I do agree with this, for the most part. I do think there a lot of toxic women who shit on men for emotions. I think women would be a lot more accepting of having an equally emotional partner if their partner put in the work for attain coping skills and work through emotions like a lot of women have. I see guys on this sub saying “women only want stoic men”, but it’s more so that we just don’t want to sign up to be a guys sole emotional support system.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:52 PM
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I get what you mean, I see it too. I didn’t mean to phrase it as “what’s wrong with men” as in it’s necessarily men’s fault, just that I think society as a whole has bullied men out of having emotions. That being said, I want to address that I think “mental health” is a lot more than just. Sitting in a therapists office once a week and having a good cry lol (I know you weren’t insinuating that I’m being dramatic for the example).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:50 PM
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Sure, but needing help isn’t a sign of weakness. I don’t think more discussions regarding men’s mental health and advocacy for letting men show sadness/whatever else would take away from men’s strength. If anything, I think it would greater strengthen them (if mental health help is something they personally need. Not everyone needs it but yeah)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:19 AM
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I do think one of the biggest issues modern men have today is the lack of advocacy for male mental health. Don’t get me wrong, there’s been plenty of studies using male subjects run by male scientists. But the whole socialization of men tends to focus entirely on “suck it up” rather than advocacy for them seeking mental health treatments, being encouraged to vocalize their emotions, etc. I think doing so would support men having stronger intrapersonal relationships and better self esteem that do…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:09 AM
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Noooo my fragile world view, I’m MELTIIIING Nah I’m kidding lmao. Yeah, humans crave connections — specifically healthy, mutually beneficial ones (both romantic and platonic). I do believe they’re are both men and women out there who have decided to forego romantic connections in pursuit of different goals in their lives, but yeah exceptions to every rule and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:03 AM
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Damn, this is a really nuanced reply. Thank you for this, this actually made me reconsider my stance on this sort of stuff because you brought it up in a way that doesn’t put down men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:56 AM
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I really agree with this. I’ve seen a lot of individuals (particularly men on this sub but I’m sure women say it too) that “they’d rather be in an abusive relationship than be single” which to me strikes me as someone who fundamentally does not understand the purpose of romantic relationships. Same with the very, very few people I’ve heard say that “we should have government mandated matches” or whatever. Getting into a relationship for the sole purpose of having a romantic partner isn’t going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:27 AM
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I don’t think you understand how biology works
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:18 AM
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Oh my god that poor guy?? I’ve had a few patients with bed bugs, I can’t even imagine how uncomfortable and gross that would feel 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:17 AM
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I think pigs are actually considered to be very clean animals (as opposed to like. Dogs). They cover themselves in mud because they lack sweat glands so that’s how they cool down Imagine evolving to not have sweat glands smh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:15 AM
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Out of curiosity just for the sake of conversation, what makes you feel like men sacrifice more? (I promise I’m genuinely asking and not trying to pick a fight, tone doesn’t translate well over text lmao)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:12 AM
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I go FERAL for men who are teachers. They are so unironically fine 😮‍💨 Dedicating your life to bettering the next generation? Damn son
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:09 AM
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I don’t have access to the article, it’s hidden behind a paywall.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:17 PM
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Shit you right. Sorry man looks like you’re gonna have to wear a blindfold to the gym 😔😔
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:56 PM
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See the key is to just stare up at the ceiling the whole time. Even if they approach you just keep looking DIRECTLY up. Not only do you not accidentally see old lady tits, you ALSO look super cool and normal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:04 PM
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For real. Girly focus on your workout it’s not that hard to just. NOT look at the dudes junk 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:45 PM
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Oh my god can we please drop this. Dude you post about this like every single week. Go get therapy, obsessing over your dick this much or how women view dicks is not healthy. Your size is way less relevant than how often you’re trying to force women to “”admit”” they only want big dicks. I’m a broken record at this point, I don’t care. If men wanna think women only want massive girthy tree dicks, they can have at it. I’m so over not being listened to about this because I’m “lying” jfc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:42 PM
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It quite literally is body dysmorphia at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:40 PM
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Clitoral stimulation dude. That’ll lead to orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:39 PM
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If you already “know the truth” then why are you asking us.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:38 PM
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Yeah, it would be interesting if someone could replicate this study with more control for the variables on either side. You very well could be right that women rate men lower, but I think this study is too all over the place (no methodology, no sample size listed) to draw any irrefutable conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:55 PM
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Where, though? I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but I haven’t seen it on this sub where women make posts or comments saying that “Chad/Stacy will just use you”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:49 PM
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But I don’t think that who rates who the most fairly matters is they are solely going for the most attractive people. If a bunch of men are at a bar, I don’t think it matters how fairly they rate the women there if they’re only approaching the hottest women, even if they’re well aware that there are 5’s around and acknowledge their existence/attractiveness. Even if the woman views them as unattractive, she’ll still approach. Actions lead to dating, not just being realistic about rating someone. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:31 PM
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OHHHHH. Damn that is both super nice and absolutely brutal at the same time lmao. It’s okay I’m also mid twenties so I might as well be an old widow. Guess life humbled me too hard smh 😔 Alright his number was before they had area codes tho good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:34 AM
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I am so stupid and don’t know how Grindr works but wouldn’t the 22 year old have to set an age range in his preferences that includes 26 to see you? 🤨 And then ALSO match with you? 🤨 Anyways my great grandpa is single,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:28 AM
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Probably at the gym go meet them there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:21 AM
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Alright we’re gonna have to agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:04 AM
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But you’re saying this as if women can control men. We can’t. A guy can up and leave whenever he wants to, how is that a woman’s failure. “She should have chosen better” assumes that men are somehow not in control of their own decisions. There are absolutely instances of men leaving their wives after their wives have children because the wife begins to cater towards the baby more during the infancy period. So instead of helping out with the kid and lifting some of the burden off the woman, these…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:56 AM
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Why are you equating a woman’s “best self” with her being young and fertile, though. Yeah that may be her physical prime, but she may be far more emotionally mature. You don’t have to fuck her/desire her, but it’s weird to insinuate that women are at their overall “best” when they’re young.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:50 AM
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Well if that’s the case then why do these fathers leave their wives then. If that’s “the only woman they got”? I’m fine with mutual accountability but what is with this obsession of “if the father leaves, it’s mostly the mother’s fault”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:45 AM
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Yeah that’s what I figured lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:39 AM
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What do you personally feel like women offered back then that men wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:04 AM
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Where did I say that. Seriously, tell me exactly where I said “women never use men”. Edit: wow no response. Shocking. 🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:39 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:32 AM
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I don’t think you’re wrong persay, but like I said earlier, I think this would be short term. I think after a while the constant “high” would sort of dull into nothingness. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to say “relationships are great because people SUCK”, but I think there’s a lot of people who find fulfillment in stepping outside of their comfort zone and growing through challenges. Romantic relationships just so happen to a small example of that. I think part of what makes romance and pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:26 AM
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God bless you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:55 AM
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I don’t think it would feel fulfilling for most people, though. You said “full emotional and sexual satisfaction”, but I think it would weigh on most people that this is not a real person. Maybe some people would be ecstatic by it, but I think if the majority didn’t need a real person for personal connection, then AI partners would be a lot larger right now. I can’t tell if you’re talking solely about sex or relationships, but I think you’re not giving the human brain enough credit. It may work …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:54 AM
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I give you: opening door for you You give me: sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:51 AM
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New couples costume idea. One persons a pickle the other person is balls
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:38 AM
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Woman: literally not bothering a single soul This guy:
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:37 AM
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The worst thing a woman can be: ✨BMI of 18 or 22✨
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:30 AM
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Can I have the pickleball guys I love pickleball
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:29 AM
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I mean, if both used “deception and manipulation” than they both equally suck. But if my partners past just naturally did not come up (I don’t tend to ask other than “who’d you date before hand and why’d y’all break up” out of. Curiosity ig? And to see if they blame ALL their part partners for the break ups), I really just would not care. It’s in the past, they didn’t work out for a reason (I understand there is nuance to this but that’s just my general take).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:28 AM
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Any woman who falsely accuses a man of rape needs to go behind bars. I firmly stand by that stance. However, I don’t think that this is NEARLY as big of an epidemic as red pill makes it out to be. If we discourage believing female rape victims, we inadvertently discourage believing male rape victims, too. 2-10% of rapes are falsely accused. That’s a lot. However, only 33% of rapes are reported. That means 0.033% of rapes that are brought to the police are falsely accused. Since 1989, only 52 men…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:21 AM
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Third gender unlocked!! Shitty….
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:20 PM
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Any man who doesn’t want to raise a child that isn’t theirs is 100% valid. But any guy who self-describes himself as a “nice guy” and who “treats women well”, and then follows it up with “when life humbled her” because she had a kid/chose “the wrong guy” fundamentally is NOT a nice guy. Just don’t date these women. If they come crawling back after blowing you off, just drop them. It’s literally not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:09 PM
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THANK YOU. Men who truly respect women don’t go around saying they hate single women. (And yes same goes for women saying they hate men but at least they aren’t acting like martyrs about it)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:57 PM
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What is so funny to me about these men is they’ll characterize themselves as the “nice guys”. They “listen to women” and “offer a shoulder to cry on” and whatever. And then the second a woman has a baby and the man leaves her, life has “humbled her”. Just. Don’t. Date. These. Women. Why is this such a hard concept to understand. You don’t HAVE to father a child you didn’t sign up for. But spending your precious time and energy on hating these women points to a deep psychological issue with you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:56 PM
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But how do the majority of men think the hottest women will reply to them if it’s a “known thing” that women rate most men relatively low? I don’t think it’s fair to say men’s standards aren’t higher when they’re disproportionately going for the most attractive women in dating apps. That’s like me saying “women aren’t rating men low because they’re ugly, it’s just girls being girls.” If we’re going to acknowledge the data for one group, we need to acknowledge it for both. I’m a woman on dating a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:46 PM
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And that single mothers are at fault for not raising their sons right instead of the baby daddies for. You know. Not sticking around. I know we’re supposed to be the “passive aggressive” gender but I’m starting to think we need to step up our game to match some of these PPD men! 🥴 (yes I know this was passive aggressive that was the point). (To be fair the vast majority of men on this sub have actually just increased my faith in humanity. Most of you are all wonderful beings and I’m very gratefu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:13 PM
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I’m the same as your friend. I make well over 6 figures, my only “criteria” for men is that they have some sort of stable job that required some amount of entry point effort. I wouldn’t date a McDonalds cashier (nothing wrong with them, but I don’t think I’d be compatible with a man over the age of 25 who is a cashier) but I’d date a teacher or a blue collar (I know blue collar men make good money I’m just trying to include everyone lmao) man. So yeah, I think both men and women can have a tende…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:10 PM
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<image> I already posted this a few comments up but everytime someone brings up this argument that “oh men are so much more realistic about attractiveness”, they somehow conveniently forget the second part of the study that says that men were only messaging the hottest women. Women were sending messages along their curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:59 PM
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That exact same study shows that while women rated men more harshly, they *actually messaged the “lower attractiveness” guys. They were messaging pretty much along the curve they set. Men were primarily only messaging the hottest girls. So sure, men may “rate” women more fairly, but women are a LOT more realistic about what they can get. https://preview.redd.it/ptfecjtlggwe1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=3a6c0c1e3c6e44c157760ff7d566c7876e922924
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:35 PM
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The issue with being entitled to procreation is that procreation requires two consenting parties, not just one. You’re doing exactly what he’s criticizing, though. “Reserved and reasonable” = unattractive. “Whore-esque” = attractive. Henry Cavill is in a committed relationship with a baby on the way (or born), is he whore-esque? He seems very reasonable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:04 PM
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I get what you mean, but I think men “chasing” women has its roots in biology. That doesn’t mean we can’t be critical of it, but it wasn’t because men wanted to put their lives on the line for some chick/provide for her. They wanted to reproduce, and because men can father hundreds of kids while women can only mother a few, it makes evolutionary sense that the men have to “””seduce””” the women so she’s like “okay, I’d be willing to mother this guys kids.” (I’m not saying this is how it should b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:09 PM
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Women raised the children, so I wouldn’t call that “putting all the responsibility of providing for the tribe on the men”. And actually, a lot of hunter gatherer tribes had women hunt alongside the men. So the women weren’t just kicking back and letting the men do all the hard work. Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/07/01/1184749528/men-are-hunters-women-are-gatherers-that-was-the-assumption-a-new-study-upends-i#:~:text=Their%20findings%20—%20published%20in%20the,it's%20righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:23 AM
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Okay! (:
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:15 AM
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Me, in my previous reply: “I’d be fine with covering the tip as long as he doesn’t try to talk me out of it,” You: “Go tip them yourself” 🤨 Take 2 more seconds to read what I said brother
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:08 AM
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I’m gonna make a post with the flair “ask men/women/BP/RP” that states “why do none of y’all like chocolate” and then tell everyone who disagrees with me that they’re either lying, coping, or an outlier I am so good at this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:54 PM
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Why do I approach? I dunno, might as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:23 PM
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Babe wake up new “women cannot possibly tell the truth about their experiences or preferences and therefore are all lying” post just dropped
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:21 PM
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I can’t speak for ALL men and ALL women but I personally enjoy approaching as a woman, I’ve started to do so recently and have had a good ratio of success and rejection. Plus since I’m the one initiating it’s on me to pay, so it’s a good way to weed out the very small population of men who are emasculated by me paying/approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:27 PM
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Because when men say “I prefer small/large” breasts, then women believe them and carry on with their lives. If women say “I literally don’t care, it’s not size it’s how you use it,” suddenly women are all liars and master manipulators (while also simultaneously being weak-willed and gullible so don’t ask me how that works lmao)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:16 PM
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THANK YOU “every woman says I’m huge and I’m X+ inches”. Wow that’s crazy it’s almost like they’re stroking your ego to enhance your pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:05 PM
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But why is it “women have other preferences” when we say 6 is too big, but “women are lying” when women say that dick size does not correlate to good sex for them. It’s gotta be one or the other we can’t both be a monolith and also individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:04 PM
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Huge = 9 inches. “Huge” for most women I would argue is 6+ inches, not 9. 9 is WAY too huge for some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:00 PM
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We are fighting for our LIVES out here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:57 PM
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This guy gets it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:57 PM
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I’m starting to think a lot of men just don’t believe women period. inb4: “all women lie though” wow you’re right why didn’t I think of that please explain to me how me, a woman, works that’ll be super productive for both of us
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:56 PM
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Fair enough! I’m sure you’ll find your girl
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:13 PM
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Do a picnic then. There are ways around it. I’m not trying to shit on you or tell you you’re a bad person, I get why you have your rationale. But I’m just answering your question that women where tipping is the norm are likely not going to be thrilled about a guy refusing to tip (of course I can’t speak for all women, I’m sure there’s plenty of women who disagree with me despite being from America/Canada as well).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:08 PM
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I mean, by that logic why shouldn’t you just donate your money to those same organizations rather than spend money on going out to eat to begin with? Servers rely on tips because employers don’t pay them minimum wage, but way below it. No one’s forcing these servers to take these jobs, but no one’s forcing you to go out to eat, either. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending the system — I think employers need to pay their servers an adequate wage so we don’t need to tip but can do so at our discr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:02 PM
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I can see the argument for that, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:59 AM
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I think the bigger issue I’d have with it is what’s his reasoning behind it? If it’s “well it should be covered by employers”, while I do agree, not tipping isn’t going to make the employers pay their servers more. It’s just hurting the servers with zero repercussions to the employer. I’d be fine with covering the tip as long as he doesn’t try to talk me out of it, but I do think it would be inappropriate for him to refuse to tip in a culture that promotes tipping, just like it would be inapprop…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:48 AM
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Yeesh, I’m sorry both your brother and his girlfriend have to go through that. If they’re happy together, who cares? I wish them a happy and long relationship 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:33 AM
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Sure. I haven’t personally seen that but that doesn’t mean it isn’t true. I do think assortive mating/looksmatching is a thing, but I think a man “being with an uglier woman” isn’t the result of the man being “deficient in personality/masculinity or something.” I think they’re just outliers, or maybe the guy knew the woman since childhood or something, or whatever. I know of women who have dated “uglier men”, I don’t think it’s because that guy was just SUPER masculine or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:03 AM
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I mean I don’t think I’ve seen a woman on here deny that assortive mating is a thing. My understanding is that’s pretty much the more “biological term” for looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:54 AM
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100% agree. Women and men are both shallow (that’s not necessarily even a bad thing unless you’re making attractiveness the SOLE reason you pursue someone), but neither is attracted to ONE type of person. I’d like to reach a point where women aren’t called “liars” for not being interested in conventionally attractive men/being impartial to them. I don’t see nearly as many men having to justify/defend themselves for being attracted to a “fat woman” or something, at least not by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:43 AM
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I would LOVE to see women socialized to be better “risk takers” (socially. Please don’t jump off a cliff lmao)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:17 AM
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That’s why I love r/MensLib and r/Healthygamergg 🙂‍↕️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:10 AM
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You said “women younger than 25 are more likely to cheat.” You were presented with evidence showing the opposite. Now percentages “don’t count”. Ok. 17% of people under the age of 29 are married in the U.S. That’s not insignificant. Cool, where’s your source. “What I see” is not a source. To be clear, I’m not arguing that men cheat more. I’m arguing men and women cheat the same amount and both equally suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:02 AM
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Also more women ages 18-29 are married than men ages 18-29. Also the same article says men are more likely to cheat. Hmmmmmm….. 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:53 PM
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If getting rejected is damaging someone’s psyche, I would heavily recommend taking a break from dating or pursuing self-care methods like therapy. I can feel bad for them and admit it exists, but this guy is citing getting rejected as a reason for “women must not like men”. I’m not saying “fuck you dude suck it up”, I’m saying “getting rejected by women does not mean women are not attracted men. Rejection is a part of life.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:35 PM
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I’m not saying I don’t feel bad, it sucks for sure, but what do you expect people to do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:24 PM
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Aww, thank you!! I appreciate that a lot! 🥹💕 Unfortunately I don’t, but I really enjoy reading both r/AskFeminists and r/MensLib + r/Healthygamergg to get a good understanding of both grievances/struggles each sex faces. That and the understanding that almost every situation has a lot more nuance/is not nearly as black as white as people make it out to seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:06 PM
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I mean, yeah. That’s life. Getting rejected. That’s unfortunately a pretty a big part of dating. Well I’m a woman who is very much so attracted to men so I think we’ll have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:03 PM
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lol what
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:55 PM
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I seriously don’t think there’s a surplus of “hot, adventurous, avoidant men” that ALL women are going for that. Look at your female peers in relationships. I’m not talking about TikTok influencers, I mean your female friends in a relationship. Are they all passing up the “kind guy” for “hot adventurous men”? I have seen this once in my entire life among my peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:39 PM
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Seconded. None of that sex from either party would be consensual if it was government mandated. Men and women would just be in a perpetual state of raping each other. That sounds horrific.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:25 PM
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Hell yeah agreement 🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:25 PM
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Yeah, I agree with OP. I was just adding my perspective to the discussion but I don’t think anything I said directly contradicts OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:23 PM
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To be fair, I actually agree with you on that lol. But I think that’s an economic problem more so than a sexism problem. Again, I think the wage gap is more of an economic issue than it is a “man vs woman” thing. Now take my opinion on that with a grain of salt since I don’t have economics training, but yeah the problem of the wage gap is nuanced. So is pretty much every single issue brought up in this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:15 PM
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That’s fair, I agree. When it comes to childcare, men are often put in a position of “must prove worth of raising children” whereas women are automatically suspected to be fit to raise children. I think that’s a remnant of a society that benefited from women staying at home to raise the children while the men worked. Now that that’s changing, I do agree that our judicial system should reflect that. And that brings me back to my point that we should stop assuming that as soon as a couple had a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:02 PM
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Okay, sweet. Let’s discuss them. I can’t really comment super intellectually on daycare as I’m not a parent but from my perspective, but Freakonomics did a good podcast episode on it. They essentially said that government mandated staff to child ratios mixed with the fact that there isn’t a lot of government funding towards daycare makes it really hard for the work to be A: profitable and B: affordable. Teachers and nurses should be getting paid more. Granted there’s nuance to the conversation s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:58 PM
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Are you asking “how do I want to keep day care affordable while providing decent salaries to teachers/nurses”? I’m not trying to act obtuse, I’m just confused what those two things have to do with one another. Seriously I promise I am genuinely asking, I’m not trying to shut your comment down/act like the question is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:47 PM
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I do agree that women harm men and are not held accountable, but I think it goes the same way for men and women. I actually don’t think this is a gendered issue, I think both parties of each sex are harmful towards the other and are not often held accountable. “Look at the problem of rapists causing women to be afraid of men and hold misandrist views.” I don’t necessarily believe that women being afraid of getting harmed by men is a misandrist viewpoint, just as I don’t believe that men being wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:43 PM
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I’m a little confused on the point you’re trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:37 PM
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Alright well uh. Good luck with getting the majority of society to agree with you on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:09 PM
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Breeding facility and government forced monogamy both sound like a one way trip to a dystopian society that make both men and women miserable. Would you seriously be fulfilled in a relationship with a woman you knew was government mandated to be with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:05 PM
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Tracking them down, too. Seriously, check out some of the nasty shit they say on incels.is. They’re talking in great detail on how they want to mutilate women. Unfortunately that’s gonna get attention from authority figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:04 PM
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No, I just want to know what you mean by “revenge”. Walking away? A manosphere movement? Violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:01 PM
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Can you expand on “having their revenge on women”?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:51 PM
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… confirm what I said? Yeah, I know. I know the vast majority of men will go their own way. I do not think “all men are going to gang up on women and murder them because men are stinky poopooheads”. Most men are sane. But I also think a very small group of men with extremist views on women are going to kill women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:50 PM
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I’ll respond my “conditions” or whatever after we come to an agreement. comparing privileges is wrong. Agreed. Not Patriarchy but Post-Patriarchy. In the Western world, agreed. Reproductive coercion is wrong. I agree that women who baby trap men need to be held accountable and doing so (baby trapping) is a form of rape. I do think something that would greatly help this is if men got birth control. A lot of male birth control is actually in development right now and may be available very soon. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:44 PM
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I agree that the vast majority of men will walk away, but I do think that there is a small group of men who will take advantage of this shift and hurt women. Incel.is is full of men who explain in pretty great detail how they want to rape and murder women, to the point where “incels” are getting some attention from the FBI.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:12 PM
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Good lord dude I’m just clarifying if men can be included in the conversation I didn’t light OP on fire
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:06 AM
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If we want to build bridges why are only targeting this as a question towards women. Shouldn’t men be included in this discussion, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:23 AM
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My issue about that though is what do you expect anyone to be able to do about these women? In my friend group I will absolutely call a friend out if they’re persistently chasing men with red flags but then going “why are all men I’m into so toxic? 🥺”. But on a large scale, what are women like me going to do about it? We can’t help what these women are attracted to any more than men can help these elusive “Chads” or whoever from discarding these women like trash when they’re done with them. I ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:10 AM
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You absolutely can and there’s nothing wrong with that, but I do want to give you a fair warning that if you feel like you struggle socially, you may not have much better luck on dates. I understand being introverted and that it can be incredibly exhausting, but even pushing yourself out once a week (or once every month, baby steps) can really help. You also may meet a friend who introduces you to his cute sister or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 11:53 PM
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This so perfectly puts into words how I feel. Players and “bad boys” exist, but what do I care? They’re assholes, I don’t even give them the time of day. I’ve had them attempt to hit on me/“booty call” me or whatever you want to call it, but I’m just not interested. So it seems odd to me to be so deeply offended by the actions of women who are likely incompatible with these men anyways. And that’s fine, no one’s saying these guys have to date these women if they don’t agree with their actions/pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 11:44 PM
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But you don’t have to date these women. Women outside of this one experience exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:53 PM
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I think so too. I personally am not someone who has had a lot of past relationships with “bad boys” or “chads” or whoever, nor are my friends. I have met women who will turn down a guy for being “too boring”, but those women 9/10 times were already neurotic in one way or another. They weren’t the product of bad relationships, they sought out bad relationships because that’s what felt normal to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:58 PM
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I feel like her argument rests on “we are products of our society”. Which, like, yeah. Of course. But her argument comes off as “ALL men WILL sexually assault women” which is just. Grossly incorrect. Don’t get me wrong, it’s valid for women to be wary of men they don’t know. I am. But her argument feels poorly worded to me. It lacks nuance. I hate it when people say “ALL women want XYZ”, so I think it would be hypocritical of me to say “all men XYZ”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:30 AM
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I don’t think any amount of logic can convince these men otherwise that their sexual partners are satisfied with their size. I do think that it can become a form of body dysmorphia for a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:58 AM
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That’s where I’m at. I understand her sentiment of “it is every person because we’re all a product of society”, but I think her viewpoint is very black and white. It’s lacking nuance. I am a firm believer of “not all men”, just like I am of “not all women”. I think using this “all or nothing” language detracts from the problem at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:52 AM
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Ok not at all the point I was trying to make. Men are stronger on average but saying “women are weak and need protection” is definitely. A jump
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:32 AM
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I guess psychological would be a way better word for it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:27 AM
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Honestly I can see the appeal, I don’t think it looks BAD. I’m definitely aware I’m in the minority on this 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:13 PM
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From a purely biological perspective: • Men are conditioned to not scream when in danger (media, adult modeling behaviors, etc.) • Women may unconsciously do so as a way to “warn” others of danger/signal that they’re in danger. And I think men don’t because point 1 Obviously I’m talking about averages, though. I work in the ER and have absolutely heard men scream out of sheer emotion/feeling of helplessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:06 PM
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Oh no I’m so sorry 😭 Hot hand packs are the only thing that helps me personally. RIP cold hand gang 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:39 PM
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<image> I think you mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:38 PM
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I have HORRIBLE Raynaud’s so I do end up inadvertently doing this too but the insane version where I just ball my entire hand inside my sleeve 🥲 And then I get called into surgery and have to scrub in with freezing cold water 😭 In other words, ✨wah my life is so hard wah✨
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:33 PM
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For the sake of staying silly goofy it is hilarious of me to think of these mass hysteria events happening because one woman started to have a mental breakdown and then all the other women around her just ✨felt so bad✨ that they ALSO had mental breakdowns lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:32 PM
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KAJDJSJ that is incredibly valid of you. Please take my hating with a grain of salt I think it’s because I’m jealous it doesn’t look cute on me. That and because I think some subconscious part of me remembers kids in my elementary school wearing their sleeves like this and then sucking on them 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:28 PM
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Damn well I tried 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:24 PM
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<image> I freaking hate the trend of people walking around with half their hand inside their sleeve. It gives me unironic “🥺👉👈” vibes. And yes I am a hater thank you for asking
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:19 PM
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Okay but like. Have you considered that the people saying that this is “mass hysteria” are doing so due to bias that “a bunch of women said something? Must be hysteria!”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:15 PM
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No worries, it happens to me too. Thank you for the respectful debate 🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:04 PM
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I’m not sure why you lashed out at me, though. I put in there multiple times that men can be the victim and women can be the perpetrators of sexual coercion/manipulation. I’m a huge advocate that sexual violence against men by women needs to be destigmatized/reduced to “well you’re a man so you must have wanted it”. I agree with you, women aren’t owed anything by men, men aren’t owed anything by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:00 PM
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You said those girls are “begging to be victimized”. They should be taught that calling an attractive stranger “daddy” is inappropriate and objectification, not that they deserve to be victimized if the guy decides to do something to them. Same with young boys who try to hit on their hot teacher. They should be educated on why that’s inappropriate, not told “well you shouldn’t have hit on her” if the female teacher decides to be a monster. Not entirely sure what your second paragraph has to do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:48 PM
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What a great debate. Glad that you think underage victims of sexual coercion/manipulation have a “skill issue” just because you personally didn’t experience it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:41 PM
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Those underage girls don’t understand consent yet. The “hot men” doing that need to be held accountable. Just like older women should be held accountable for preying on young boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:13 PM
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Just because you’re willing to recount your trauma doesn’t mean everyone is. Asking someone to tell the story of their trauma for you in a debate setting is freaking weird, dude. If your point is so strong, you should be able to stand by your point without needing to judge her experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:05 PM
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But I said earlier, men are more likely to have the physical strength to disarm their attacker. I’m not saying men shouldn’t be wary of other men. I’m just answering your question — why are women so afraid of men versus men not being as afraid?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:55 PM
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Goodbye, goalposts… How did your argument go from “why aren’t men equally as afraid of other men as women are” to “an unarmed person is at a disadvantage to an armed person”. Obviously??? How does that disprove what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:41 PM
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Sure, I don’t think that’s impossible. But women being wary around men isn’t a new thing. It’s predated the existence of movies and books about male sexual violence. And I think my point still stands that it is more likely that men are portrayed in a positive light in most other movies as 75% of protagonists in movies 1996-2024 were men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:38 PM
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Okay. My point still stands. Women are afraid of men because, on average, they don’t have the strength to defend themselves more so than another man will. Does this mean male on male violence shouldn’t get attention? Absolutely not. But when talking about “why are women afraid of men”, that’s why. Come on, you can have a grown up debate without devolving into “women’s privilege”, can’t you? Or are we just gonna keep chasing goal posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:35 PM
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There goes the goalposts! WHEEEEE You were talking about men and women so I assumed we were talking about adults. When did children come into this? How often are young kids wandering the streets and getting jumped by adults? A man being armed doesn’t disprove my point. Women are less likely to have the physical strength to disarm a man than another man will.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:32 PM
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Yeah you put it WAY better than I did 😂 I second this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:20 PM
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That’s fair. I don’t think that disproves the point I made earlier, though, which is that men are also depicted as heroes in a lot of media. That being said, I am not naive enough to insist that media can’t influence the way we perceive the world. I am just saying from my own personal experience (I don’t watch horror movies) that I am wary around men regardless of how they’re presented in media because of my friends and my personal experiences. Does this mean all men? Of course not, the vast maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:18 PM
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Because men are more likely (on average) to be able to have the strength to defend themselves. Women are typically smaller in build and can’t achieve the same strength (on average) that men can, hence the wariness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:14 PM
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I work out pretty consistently, so I have a pretty lean/slim build when combined with a relatively good diet (working on making it better lol). I’d like someone to have a healthy physique, whatever that means for his genetics (as some people have naturally more body fat than others, etc). So whatever body he gets from staying active and eating in a way that best fuels his body and keeps him healthy. If I had to choose? Toned, athletic type. I can’t really reference any movie because the vast maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:07 PM
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I get what you’re saying, but for me personally, no. I don’t really watch a lot of media where men are presented as the perpetrators of sexual violence, but I’m still wary that statistically a man is more likely to rape me than another woman, mostly because men are on average stronger than women and therefore a man is going to be able to hold me down a lot more easily than another woman can. Rape is also often portrayed as this dramatic thing in movies, where as in real life, it’s often insidiou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:01 PM
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Look at those ✨rippling pectorals✨
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:41 PM
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That’s a fair point. I can’t really argue against it since I’ve never been to couples therapy nor do I have any friends who have, but I can’t prove you wrong. I’m sure you’re right about it being more of a grey area, though. I get what you mean. It’s not presenting things in a succinct manner, it’s just adding a lot of emotional hyperbole to a point that didn’t need it. I do see that a lot. The only thing I want to challenge about therapists wanting to keep the women happy is that I’m not entire…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:38 PM
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You very well could be right that men are more likely to be dismissed in therapy, and I definitely don’t have any sources to the contrary. I’m willing to admit it happens for sure, but I don’t think it’s the norm like OP claims. I do think that either way, mens mental health needs to be more researched and given more attention. Oh my god thank you, right?? 😂 People (men and women) will do this all the time and make vast generalizations about an entire group of people like it’s fact with nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:54 PM
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Sure, that’s fair. I’m sure what OP is claiming has happened before, but I’m also sure it’s happened in the reverse of sexes. And I’m also sure there’s couples therapists out there who held both parties accountable. I just can’t argue with a claim that is entirely “I think this happens most times a couple goes into couples therapy” because how in the world would OP know without any supporting evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:36 PM
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I’m asking you to provide sources to back up your claim that couples therapy doesn’t work because women will abuse their husbands. You’re making a claim about an entire population with no evidence. That’s different from “this one person did something to me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:32 PM
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You’re the one who made the post. Provide sources for your argument if you feel so strongly about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:26 AM
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I’m not even sure how we’re supposed to debate something based sheerly off. What. Vibes? There’s no sources backing ANY of this up. I’m not sure where OP got all this “information” from.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:16 AM
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OUR NAMES WONT BE FORGOTTEN IF WE DIE LIKE TRAMPLED FLOWERS I REFUSE TO BE FORGOTTEN WRITTEN OFF AS LESS THAN WORTHLESS
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:13 AM
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OH CONGRATS!!! That’s so exciting, I hope you two have fun!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:11 AM
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Then don’t insult women and teachers. “stupid female teacher” “some loudmouth female teacher opens her big mouth” “it’s a place for mediocre losers to go who can’t hack it in the real world.” “only a loser male would work such a low paying job.” And the other 50 times you’ve insinuated women are inherently stupid. You’re acting like a bully and then getting upset when someone dishes it back out to you. You’re either a troll or incredibly bad at debating. And before you assume, no, I am not a tea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:47 AM
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Are you able to have a debate using your big boy words or do you have to resort to “stupid women with big mouths working for slave wages” every other sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:32 AM
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I care about my son learning to view women as equals and not “gullible simpletons”. If that means he is taught by an adequate and equally paid female teacher, then so be it. Besides, there’s so many other ways to incorporate positive male role models into young mens lives. Extra curriculars, family, family friends. Hell, I’m for altering current educational standards to better foster young boys. More recess time, stop diagnosing every fidgety 7 year old boy with ADHD and pumping him full of meth…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:26 AM
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OP: How DARE you not care that young boys get an equal amount of male teachers that young girls get to female teachers!! The BLASPHEMY!! Also OP: fuckin dumbass women will work for slave wages lmao stupid bitches get what they deserve. now what did my stupid ass mom make for dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:12 AM
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You can’t whine that women have an advantage and call it “unfair” but then give men financially advantage and call it a “trade off”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:06 AM
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But only the male teachers. We can’t have the stupid female teachers thinking they’re important lest they poison the young boys minds with their ✨estrogen✨
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:57 AM
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Oh trust me the wage gap exists I know this. But why would I WILLINGLY perpetuate it. And again. If this is so important, why do men need to be incentivized to do it and the women should just “suck it up and take it”?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:55 AM
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So… making things more grossly unfair solves it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:49 AM
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I dunno man calling a “female” teacher stupid feels pretty uncivil to me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:43 AM
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I’ve got a better idea. Let’s just make a country for men whose entire identity relies on “TESTOSTERONE!!!” and then just let them hang out through their pubescence. That way they don’t have to be worried about girls “cooties” or whatever In all seriousness, I’m all for men getting better and more male role models. I think it’s a very valid thing. But then let’s just pay everyone more. I get the whole “finite resources” thing but I mean you either get to redistribute pay equally for both genders…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:37 AM
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I had a guy in my university who had dwarfism. It was a public university so nobody was super rich, but holy cow did this man always have some cute girl on his arm lmao. He was a super sincere and sweet guy, so I definitely got it. That was years ago, I think him and his (get this: slender) wife are expecting kids this fall 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 12:10 AM
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Oh my god I’m such a dumbass lmao. Can you tell I’m gullible 🥴 LMAO damn at least this site sucks. But I agree, the premise of this is creepy as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 12:07 AM
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I’m telling you, confidence is one hell of an attractor
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 11:59 PM
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But the difference between Bundy pre murder spree versus post murder spree is pre murder, he had a really good façade. A lot of psychologists think he had Psychopathy. Psychopaths are incredibly good at coming off as charming. It’s relatively likely you’ve met a few in your lifetime without even noticing it, given that they’re ~1-2% of the population. Post murder, I couldn’t tell you. The women who are attracted to him are not representative of the majority of women, though. Some women have Hybr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 11:43 PM
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In short term mating. If you only want short term relationships, then sure why not. But not long term. In long term mating, women don’t value aggression nearly as much as men think they do. If anything, a lot of women seem to prefer less aggressive men for long term commitments: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/147470491301100122#:~:text=Conclusion,may%20be%20the%20better%20option.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 11:27 PM
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Yeah I really don’t understand the obsession with Ted Bundy. He’s just a regular looking dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 11:24 PM
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I mean, some women don’t like coffee dates so fair enough. I personally really enjoy them. It’s low stakes, either party can dip whenever if they are getting bad vibes, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 06:01 PM
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Why would I ask other men on something they have no experience on. I’d rather ask women how they make friends with other women rather than ask a man how he thinks women become friends with other women. The world becomes such a better place when you stop assuming you know what an entire sex is thinking and the reasoning behind their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:05 AM
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I mean. That’s great I’m happy for your friends but I don’t understand how that correlates to “women mostly make friends with other women based on looks”. Believe it or not, women do make friends with women based on similar interests and senses of humor. Just like men do. Having more estrogen doesn’t suddenly make us unable to make friends based on anything other than “omg ur so pretty!!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:53 AM
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I’m in no way insinuating that women are superior but where did you get the idea that we “mostly” click based on looks?? I mean unless you yourself are a woman making friends with other woman how could you possibly know the basis on which women make friends with other women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:48 AM
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I work in healthcare and I fuckin love fart jokes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:27 AM
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I go to a lot of stand up comedy shows and I would say I’ve never personally noticed a difference in how funny any gender is, or at least I’ve never consciously correlated it. I will say though, I went to an open mic the other night and one guys entire bit was like. Fingering a hole in the wall. Like there was a little hole in the wall he just kept fingering and talking about how “if women had pussies these shallow we wouldn’t have to bomb each other anymore”. I had no clue what he was on but ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:26 AM
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This feels pretty nihilistic, though. I don’t want to get “revenge” on men, because the vast majority of men haven’t done anything to me. It’s not their fault they were born with certain privileges that I’ll never see, and vice versa. We just want to dismantle a system that doesn’t see men and women as equals until it does (and yes, that means abolishing the draft or including women it, having women pursue more, yada yada blah blah gender roles).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:36 AM
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Yeah dudes like this entire identity relies on being “MANLY MAN!!1!1!1! Better than FEEBLE WOMEN!!!!” Nothing says emotional intelligence than investing your entire identity on being “better” than a whole entire sex 🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:59 PM
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Oh man dude that does sound rough 😂 Hey on the bright side you’re gonna have some RIPPED looking forearms
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:44 PM
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I’M CRYING LAUGHING 😂😂😂 Hell yeah man get it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:52 PM
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Look, you’re the man here speaking on behalf of all women, I just wanted to know what your sources were. Really solid argument skills, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:23 PM
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It’s really bizarre how these guys who want a relationship so badly are often the same ones who are so eager to make sure a woman’s self esteem is lowered. Hmmmmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:10 PM
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Every time I see a guy say “all women only want chads” I’m like. Oh, so you’re projecting got it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:06 PM
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I see you replied but your comment isn’t loading. Would you mind posting it again, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:47 PM
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Sure, but that’s why I put the disclaimer that some women/men/whoever are just quick to judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:44 PM
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No that’s actually insane of her. I’m fine with both sexes doing a check to ensure neither party is like. A registered sex offender or like. Married. But outside of that, that’s INSANELY weird. I get “vetting”, but that’s breaching your privacy. I’m really sorry you went through that. Edit: jk I’m just stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:40 PM
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Have you tried telling her to grow more nerves there? 🤨 I’m kidding lmao. Yeah maybe try to hold off on toys for a while. Fingering (specifically hitting her G-spot) in the mean time should be fine if that’s something she’s into!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:37 PM
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Trust me, I know. 🥲 I was more so referencing his previous comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:07 PM
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Well it sounded like you were saying “women use mens money to look pretty”, which I don’t think is true for the majority of women. I agree with you that absolutely there are men who are financially providing for women, but that number is dwindling. Many women financially support themselves now and invest in their beauty with their own money. I know I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:05 PM
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Trust me, I know. 🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:02 PM
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If men are “mainly responsible for providing money” then why are so many women single and perfectly happy/fulfilled being single. Clearly they’re not getting their money from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:57 PM
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He’s saying “denial of mens dating struggles”. Which are absolutely real, but it seems like the only discussion we get on PPD is that somehow it’s all entirely women’s fault. So women’s empathy (or at least mine) is drying out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:56 PM
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I will never go on a date with a man who thinks he is “owed a relationship”. I don’t care if he’s the alleged “6/6/6 Chad” or whoever. If a man thinks I am a “prize” for all his hard work “being nice to women”, then I am not interested. This small percentage of men and women are operating at a 9 year olds understanding of morality. I’m not saying that to be condescending or infantalizing, I mean that genuinely. Men (and women) who believe that women “owe them a relationship” are functioning at S…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:48 PM
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I want to see photos of the women that these men want. Something tells me they’re shooting DRASTICALLY out of their league if all the women they want are somehow scoring “Chads”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:34 PM
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“Women are on here saying “men don’t automatically deserve a relationship” completely ignore dozens of scientific studies that being in a healthy relationship drastically lowers depression and anxiety in men”. But this is still putting the problem on women. It’s not women’s job as a whole to give men relationships because “if we don’t these men are going to be depressed”. It’s a man’s job to take care of his mental health, not women’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:32 PM
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This is so true. A lot of guys I think are getting frustrated because they feel like they’re getting labelled as creepy for simply approaching, but I want to know how they’re approaching. Are they making any attempt to connect with the woman on a base level to see if there’s something worth exploring? Are they messaging her on multiple platforms (which IS overbearing)? There’s a skill to cold approaching, and I find it hard to believe that the ONLY reason these guys are getting labelled as creep…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:22 PM
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Based on what sources. “What I see” is not a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:19 PM
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I honestly think that’s why the ratio of single women and single men age 21-29 is so different. Single women that age are normally looking more so for men who are willing to be equals in a relationship, and those men tend to be 30+ (on average from what I’ve seen).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:12 PM
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I’ll say this with the obvious caveat of “not all men”, but I was in a relationship with a guy who had a part time desk job. We lived together, and I was working part time while going to school, so I’d be gone ~12+ hours every day. I was still expected to cook and clean. If I didn’t want to cook, we just. Literally did not eat, or he’d ask me to go out and pick up food. Obviously this was just a crummy relationship and not representative of all men, but I do think it’s interesting that a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:40 PM
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I genuinely think this is so true. I think the manosphere preys so heavily on vulnerable, lonely men. And because society already shuns/deprioritizes men’s mental health, this small portion of men finally feel like they have a community that understands them and listens to them — but instead of lifting these men up and encouraging them to set higher standards for potential girlfriends, invest time in what makes them feel good, and building a support system, they perpetuate their insecurities all…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:21 PM
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I can sympathize over the fact that it’s gotta be incredibly frustrating to have a smaller penis when it seems like society glorifies larger penises (porn, people, etc). But I think this needs to be treated as a form of body dysmorphia if it’s beginning to affect the way a person views themselves. It seems like there’s a small percentage of men who obsess over the size of their penis and have convinced themselves that they will never be good lovers because they internalize what media/some toxic …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:26 PM
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Men have always lived shorter lives than women. This isn’t something that’s new because “feminism”. This has been going on since the 1900’s. Source: https://u.demog.berkeley.edu/~andrew/1918/figure2.html It’s still an important conversation to have, but it’s not because of feminism. Gonna need a source that men receive less healthcare than women. Here’s a source that says the opposite: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0091743521003480 Still agree with you that men getting d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:39 PM
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I’m a little curious to know, in your opinion, how you think men being kind to women/treating them as equals is putting them at risk?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:19 PM
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But that’s not average men being gracious, that’s average men choosing to treat women like human beings. I’m not saying the average man should be held accountable for mistakes a bunch of men a hundred years ago made. But it is not “gracious” for the average man to treat a woman with respect. Saying “gracious” implies that women getting treated as equal to men is a privilege, not a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:10 PM
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I work with patients who have both breast and prostate cancer. Prostate cancer doesn’t receive less funding because “men get it so who cares”, it’s because prostate cancer is incredibly slow growing. We can normally remove the prostate before it causes any real problems. Also, cismen can get breast cancer. The “hormonal fluctuation” thing is true, but it’s not a good defense for excluding women from clinical trials. If we don’t test these drugs and see how they interact with women’s hormones, ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:07 PM
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That’s where I’ve landed. Should people be allowed to buy this? Sure. I just wouldn’t want to interact with anyone who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:29 AM
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And how did you get your girlfriend. Was it: A, being kind to her, or B, telling every woman who disagreed with you that she’s wrong or in the minority
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:01 AM
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OP, what do you think is gonna get you a girlfriend. Going out there and being a kind person, OR bitching on Reddit that women’s standards are too high. HMMMM….
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:49 AM
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This guy gets it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:39 AM
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Yeah tell this to most of the women in the middle eastern and the eastern world. They’ll LOVE this lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:50 PM
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I tried this once. My “inner foid” programming wouldn’t let me disagree with other women, though. 😔 When will a Chad save me from this fate and think for me so I don’t have to use my silly woman brain anymore….
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:42 PM
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Speak for yourself 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:37 PM
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Yes. I have access to a ruler, and I do surgery as part of my job so I’m well acquainted with A: measuring specimen and B: how long the average vaginal canal is. Do you have research that proves that women are “spitballing”? Or are you just assuming you know better than these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:35 PM
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You’re not, though. That small group of men are assholes. Again: you are not a hero for treating women like people. That is basic human decency. Women aren’t heroes for treating men like people. I don’t know where you got your information of “I’ll give you a moment to laugh at women raising up men’s problems”. I think a lot of women in this subreddit realize men struggle with a lot of things women don’t understand and should be more sympathetic towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:32 PM
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Like I said earlier, anything over 4 inches is negligible for me. Yes, some women have a size kink. I have a smaller vaginal canal, so I prefer a smaller size. Anything over 6 inches becomes painful for me. A lot of women in this thread are agreeing with me that penis size is negligible to how a man performs during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:29 PM
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Okay, but did you read those studies? I’d encourage you to read them, because neither of them say ANYTHING about “women like bigger dicks”. Brody and Costa conclusion says: “The results are consistent with evidence that specifically PVI frequency, rather than other sexual activities, is associated with sexual satisfaction, health, and well-being. Inverse associations between satisfaction and masturbation are not due simply to insufficient PVI.” This is talking about frequency of vaginal sex and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:26 PM
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Where’s your different research? No, you aren’t listening. You’re asking women a question, how does us answering honestly translate to us “not listening”? Seriously, I want to know. Why would women listen to “research” being shoved down our throats about things that aren’t accurate to what we believe. Would you listen to me shoving studies of “all men actually want woman with D cup breasts” and accusing any man who disagrees with me as “lying” or “not listening”?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:22 PM
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We’re gonna have to agree to disagree. If men didn’t decide they were above women to begin with thousands of years ago, they wouldn’t have to “graciously give things up”. The women in Afghanistan who are not allowed to speak in public are not suffering because men haven’t decided to be “gracious” yet, it’s because a small group of men decided that women deserved to be treated like property over people. You’re not a hero for treating women like people rather than property.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:18 PM
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I mean I’m not dismissing the research. I think Mautz and Prause have a point, I just think Prause specifically is victim of a poor sample size of women in the same demographic, so it’s not demonstrative of all women. Also, you definitely used AI to generate this lmao. I’m not gonna have a debate with a chat bot. You aren’t quoting “multiple studies”. You’re repeating the same 3 studies 2-3 different times.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:15 PM
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I also think either way, women are damned if we do, damned if we don’t. If a woman says she personally prefers a larger dick, she’s accused of being shallow/“proving the guys point”. If a woman says she doesn’t care, she’s accused of lying. These “question for women” posts are so obviously baiting women into either confirming a worldview or bashing women for “gaslighting”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:08 PM
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Okay, but my issue is that it’s not “gracious” of someone to end something if they’re part of what perpetuated it to begin with. If someone is abusing someone else, that person isn’t suddenly “gracious” for stopping that abuse. They’re still an abusive asshole. So it’s not “gracious” of men/white people/those black slave owners to stop perpetuating sexism/racism because that shouldn’t have been a problem to begin with. We just went back to equal rights, not “you’re welcome for viewing you as a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:05 PM
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And that woman is objectively wrong. These people need to grow up and break up, not cheat and go “you FORCED me into cheating 🥺🥺🥺”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:03 PM
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Then why did you include the same articles that just repeated exactly what the first 3 said as if they’re new/different articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:00 PM
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It’s so exhausting. This small group of men ask women questions, we answer honestly, and they say we’re “gaslighting” them because. Somehow we benefit from doing that? Edit: I need these same men to stop saying “no, THIS is what you think”. Because 10/10 it’s literally NOT what I think and these guys are just projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:57 PM
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I’m just gonna copy and paste what I said in this thread yesterday. “Okay well for one, over half your studies you cited were just repeats of the first two studies you cited just on different platforms. So really you only cited 3 studies, not 8. Penis size influences male attractiveness and is as important as height Brian Mautz et al. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS), 2013 > “Males with a larger penis were rated as being relatively more attractive. This relationship is nonl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:51 PM
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What women are going around saying “I need tall men to protect me”. I don’t feel any more or less safe around a 5’7” guy versus a 6’2” guy. They’re both guys. You used the term “good income” first. To me, good income means stable job.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:45 PM
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What woman (or man, honestly) has ever said that. Cheating is incredibly selfish. If you want to date someone else, just break up with your current partner. It’s literally that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:39 PM
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But she had to genuinely want this too. 🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:37 PM
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Because sexual dimorphism/some women have that preference (and yes, men are allowed to not want to date fat women) and “good income” just means a stable job. I don’t expect a man to make more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:18 PM
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Well white people were the ones owning the slaves to begin with, so it’s not super “gracious” of us to. Not dehumanize black people anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:13 PM
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I had a discussion where someone said that women “solely want stoic men, so emotional men are put to the wayside and not given a chance or have to pretend to be stoic just to get a girlfriend”. So I suggested that men raise their standards and not pretend to be stoic just for the sake of a relationship, but that wasn’t an okay recommendation because then these men wouldn’t get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:04 PM
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I hear you, and I’m genuinely sorry you had to deal with that. I had this same discussion with another man earlier, so I’ll sort of just repeat what I said to him: I do encourage you to challenge your worldview that because you dated some really shitty women means that all women must be the same. I mean, if women said “I was hit by two ex boyfriends and so were some of my friends, therefore the majority of men will hit their girlfriends” that wouldn’t really be a fair assessment of all men. Obvi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:48 AM
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So, I’m a little curious on what you define as emotionally vulnerability. To me, emotional vulnerability means someone who is willing to cry in front of someone, take accountability, share and enforce their boundaries, and express their needs. I think those are all features the men I have dated have. I’m wondering if your definition is different than mine. Sure, some women may prefer stoic men in general or for one night stands alone, but I think that a lot of women deeply desire their partners …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:35 AM
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That’s pretty fair. If it’s any help, your life doesn’t stop after college. It does become harder to meet people, but it looks like you’re already taking steps to participate socially in the real world (bar trivia and all that). Obviously your fear is valid, but I hope knowing that will at least ease your anxiety a bit. Absolutely — thank you for doing the same for me. Cheers! 🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:46 AM
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I mean, sure, but I feel like that’s just perpetuating the issue then. If the issue is “women only choose men with XYZ qualities and therefore, men will pretend to have XYZ qualities for sex”, then how is anything ever supposed to change? I think if this is an issue that truly bothers men, yes we can make women aware of it but nothing will change if men won’t stand up for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:43 AM
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Sure, that’s fair. I see your point of view. I think we’re just going to have to agree to disagree. I appreciate your perspective on this, I think it gave me some insight into things I haven’t considered before. I sincerely hope you’re able to get into a healthy and loving relationship in the future, I’m glad you’re away from those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:58 AM
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But it sounds like the options these men have are to either be miserable and single, or miserable and in a relationship. I’d feel like if you’re miserable and single, at least you’re keeping yourself open to the opportunity of finding someone who doesn’t treat you poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:45 AM
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I’ll agree with you that the “ick” thing is stupid when people use it as a way to degrade men for showing emotion. I’ve seen that done and it’s really gross and derogatory. I get what you’re saying, but for the sake of argument — do you think it would be better to encourage these men to raise their standards? You point out that women are the choosers in these relationships, but I’d really like to encourage men to put themselves first when they feel like they’re being emotionally dismissed. I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:38 AM
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Sure. I mean to be fair, I don’t think women “sacrifice more” in a relationship, either. I’m definitely not trying to argue the position of “well ACTUALLY, women are worse off in relationships!!” because that would be. Really untrue lol I get what you’re saying, but I’d really encourage you to think that the women you were in relationships with in the past are not representative of all women. It sounds like the women you dated were just shitty people if they wanted to distance you from your frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:34 AM
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I do think a lot of it depends on how old you are. If you’re getting blocked/ghosted a lot, I’m going to imagine that a lot of the women you’re matching with are just not emotionally mature enough to handle confrontation (not confrontation in that you’re doing something wrong, confrontation in that “I’m sorry, I’m not interested”) yet. Which sucks. That isn’t your fault. I’m saying this entirely in good faith: but if you truly believe that it would be better to be dead or in an abusive relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:27 AM
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I do think a lot of it depends on how old you are. If you’re getting blocked/ghosted a lot, I’m going to imagine that a lot of the women you’re matching with are just not emotionally mature enough to handle confrontation (not confrontation in that you’re doing something wrong, confrontation in that “I’m sorry, I’m not interested”) yet. Which sucks. That isn’t your fault. I’m saying this entirely in good faith: but if you truly believe that it would be better to be dead or in an abusive relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:26 AM
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I do agree that women are raised to validate their emotions, and men are encouraged to shove their emotions down. But I don’t think that means they “sacrifice” more for women/care more about women’s internal world. I just think whoever happens to have the more complicit personality gets walked all over. I’ve been in relationships where I was walked all over by my ex because I was the people pleaser and hated conflict. I don’t think this is a man vs woman thing. I just think this is unequal relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:03 AM
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No don’t worry about it! I appreciate when people share their experiences, it gives more insight into the lives of both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:07 AM
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I said one guy did this. One. Where did I say “all men do this”. Don’t condescend me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:06 AM
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I mean, yeah I’m sorry she blocked you dude, that sucks. But it’s hard for me to say if you really are doing things wrong or right because the example you gave based SOLELY on the information you gave could come across as pushy. Liking a girl on Hinge and then commenting on her TikTok saying you know her would probably freak me out, too. I’m not saying that to shit on you or say “you should feel ASHAMED!!!”, I’m just saying that I can’t really say whether or not the way you’re going about it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:05 AM
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The guy who went “men are only getting red pilled because WOMEN make them do it!!!” is literally such an insane abuse tactic. “I’m only hitting you because you MADE me hit you!!!” I’m also sorry that happened to you, justdontsashay. I’m glad you’re safe now!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:53 AM
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I really think you need therapy, dude. I don’t say that to dismiss your experience — but a lot of your comments here just sound like you feel like you have no worth, which isn’t healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:46 PM
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But that’s that woman’s problem, then, not yours. If you leave her alone after she says no and she calls you a creep for being respectful, I’d say you dodged a bullet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:14 PM
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I can see that point of view, sure. I don’t necessarily agree, but I can’t speak for all women and I can’t find any studies that disprove either of our points. Out of curiosity — do you have a “solution” to this? I’m not trying to bait you into a “gotcha”, I’m genuinely curious as to what you personally think a more equal world would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:38 PM
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Oooo I love this question lol. First, I’d get a ton of men and women into a room together. I’m not trying to be condescending I genuinely mean that I don’t think I alone could solve gender roles issues, I need men to express their side and opinion on things since I’m only one woman. I think focusing more on men’s mental health and encouraging them to be vulnerable/express their emotions rather than this whole “man up” mantra could be beneficial. I think a lot of men have put up with a lot of shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:31 PM
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Getting sort of aggressive for no reason. I’m happy to engage in a respectful, adult conversation with you about this if you’re willing to participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:24 PM
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This guy flirts with women. 👑🙂‍↕️ I agree through. I’ve been cold approached by some very cute men, and it’s always been really flattering. I’ve been doing some cold approaching myself. It’s only ever “creepy” when a guy won’t take no for an answer/corners me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:20 PM
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Do I think women care more about financial status than men do? Yes. I think men are more focused on looks and women are more focused on financial earning ability. Not earning more than them, but I do think women care more about a man’s financially stability prior to entering a relationship. But I still don’t think that “women earning more means they don’t like men anymore because hypergamy”. For one, men still earn more than women. That’s not because men are sexist pigs, it’s because society is …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:16 PM
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Well I may have misunderstood your previous question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:07 PM
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Well it depends on what field they’re in. If she’s a teacher and he’s a doctor, sure. But I’m a Physician Assistant and I’ll date anyone from teachers to engineers. I am financially stable enough that what a man makes doesn’t matter to me as long as he is working. And just in case the next argument is going to be “well why are women choosing lower paying jobs then”. A: Why are these jobs lower paying, B: that’s why there’s several initiatives out there to encourage young women to join STEM relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:04 PM
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People have an issue with the wage gap because no one is addressing WHY men are being encouraged/pressured to work more and WHY women are being encouraged/pressured to stay at home. The motherhood penalty/fatherhood premium is a great example of that. The wage gap isn’t a “men are evil and mean and women are soft little baby angels”. It’s “why is society forcing men to work overtime and forcing women to stay home AKA forcing both parties to be shoved into gender roles”. Why aren’t women being en…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:56 PM
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Sure. If “bigger” is about 4 inches and after that it stops mattering unless women have a size kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:52 PM
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Are these women in the room with us right now? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:50 PM
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Everything we say is just “no you’re wrong because your opinion challenges my worldview”. Funny how that study from 1990 that shows that men believe that women participating in 30% of conversation is a woman “dominating” a conversation still rings true today… https://pure.mpg.de/rest/items/item_68785_7/component/file_506904/content
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:45 PM
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But isn’t it important that we understand fundamentally why? Why are men being pressured into working late/longer hours? And why are women being pressured to be the primary caretakers/take time off work for their children while their fathers aren’t expect to, but instead are expected to work more? I don’t think this is a man vs woman issue, I think this is a society vs shoving us into mandatory gender roles issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:43 PM
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I make more than the average American man. Because of this, I don’t want/need/vet for a man to financially provide for me. Hell, I’d be more than willing to be the breadwinner for a man and have him be a stay at home husband if I were financially able to. OP is talking about two different women and acting like they’re the same person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:41 PM
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Why are so many “question for women” posts just really poorly concealed gotcha’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:32 PM
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Okay well for one, over half your studies you cited were just repeats of the first two studies you cited just on different platforms. So really you only cited 3 studies, not 8. Penis size influences male attractiveness and is as important as height Brian Mautz et al. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS), 2013 > “Males with a larger penis were rated as being relatively more attractive. This relationship is nonlinear, however, indicating that the proportional increase in attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:30 PM
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YES OH MY GOD 😂😂 I love the videos making fun of fantasy novels where they’re like “she could hardly wrap her hands around his girth” and they have to grab like. A liter of soda to even get that. Noooo thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:34 PM
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If you’re gonna ask women a question why are you telling every woman who tells you otherwise that they’re wrong 😂😂 Women can shout it from the rooftops that clitoral stimulation along side any size penis is far better than “just a big dick pistoning” but you keep accusing women of lying. Don’t ask questions if you’re clearly going for an agenda here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:03 PM
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How do you think lesbians have sex without a dildo. All lesbian sex without penetration isn’t just automatically considered “bad sex”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:57 PM
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9-10 inches is not coming ANYWHERE near my vagina lmao. 6 inches is pushing it. Like. A lot. Ow lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:53 PM
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GASP! Women having pleasurable intercourse without a penis?! BLASPHEMOUS!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:49 PM
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Do you have any data that says that women think average men approaching them is creepy? Because I’ve never felt that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:33 PM
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I’m confused, are you advocating for people having preferences or not. Because you seem pretty upset over some women liking men taller than them…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:43 AM
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Well you’re shaming women for having multiple sexual partners by calling them “easy” so I’m not entirely sure you’re being as fair as you think you’re being.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:34 AM
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I didn’t realize we were assigning winners here! 😂 Well I don’t really know what you expected after making a vast generalization of “post wall women”. I wouldn’t expect men to engage with me in good faith if I said “men over the age of 40 don’t have looks or charm or ability to provide because there’s nothing for women to fall in love with”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:38 AM
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That’s not what that article said at all, what. 😂😭 It said 30 college aged straight guys felt less judged by their guy friends than their girlfriends. That’s not “girlbosses think men being friends with other men is a threat”, that’s “these dudes need better girlfriends”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:35 AM
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“All women act this way” “No they don’t” “It was a generalization you’re being childish” ^ Peak debate skills right here. I mean sure, you just sound like you prefer younger women. There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a little weird to say “women over X age offer nothing” but you’re right, I’m being SUPER immature. Must be my pre-wall mentality. 🤪 Hide what information from me, that you think women with careers are less sexy than women who “need men” like those can’t coexist? I just dissected f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:58 PM
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I’ve been in a relationship with someone who was narcissistic, and I’ve had successful LTR after that. Therapy can give coping skills so you aren’t dragging baggage along. And what does this have to do with your original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:27 PM
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Interact with. Not marry and settle down with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:21 PM
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I mean, sure, but if you date 100 people then your chances of dating someone with a Cluster B is 5/100 at worst, or 1/20. I’d still say that’s pretty solid odds, plus you can usually spot these traits relatively early on in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:15 PM
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I was so with you for the first two paragraphs. 😭 How in the world do “post wall women” offer nothing. Do all single women just lose their personalities at the age of 26 and become bitter and mean? I feel like I would’ve heard about this in biology class
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:12 PM
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But Cluster B personality disorders only make up around 1.5-5% of the population. Also, what does this have to do with your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:08 PM
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How are you gonna say this and then make a post saying “women’s body standards for men are completely unrealistic”. You’re literally contradicting yourself. Are we shallow or are we “actually super deep”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:26 PM
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The whole “women only want you to hit on them if you’re attractive” thing is true, but it’s not like the same isn’t true for men. Guys on here (a small minority, not all men) will lament on how they’re sick of having to initiate (which, fair enough), but then will say they don’t want “fat ugly girls” to approach them. But yeah to say a guy you’re not attracted to is harassing you is stupid. Unless he’s cornering you/not leaving when you say no, it’s not harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:10 PM
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I don’t think there’s anything inherently WRONG (morally) with hitting on a woman in public so long as she doesn’t look busy and you’re able to pick up cues that she is or is not interested. The only time me getting hit on in public bugs me is if the guy doesn’t get the hint. I’ve been cornered a few times which is really uncomfortable, and then these same guys seem offended when I tell them I’m not interested. But I’ve also been hit on by men who took my rejection really well/didn’t try to conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:32 PM
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Sure, which is fine. There’s nothing objectively WRONG with what you’re doing. I’m just explaining why your lack of career and earning potential earns you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 07:57 PM
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I’m not entirely sure what the question is here. Is the question that “is it possible for me to get a woman to date me?” Sure. There’s 4 billion women out there, there HAS to be someone. But I think your issue is what everyone else is mentioning. You’re 38, you live with your parents out of comfort, you have no plans to move out, and you don’t know what you want out of a relationship. I’m not saying that to shit on you, but I do think that would make dating exponentially harder for both men AND …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 07:49 PM
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And then being blown away that women don’t feel sympathy for them. I mean I don’t know about you but nothing is sexier to me than being called “used goods” for sleeping with more than one guy 😮‍💨
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 07:07 PM
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I’m not a man so I won’t respond to the main thread but my vote is yes 100% absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:59 PM
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Have red pill men support each other without mentioning women in a way that degrades them to their genitals challenge: impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:57 PM
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“Gotcha” question aside (and to answer it: no, I would not take the money and yes, my answer would still be the same if I had never gotten into a relationship/had sex before): the reason women have trouble empathizing with men who are single isn’t because these men are struggling. It’s only when a small selection of men start complaining about women being the reason they’re single. I have no issues with a guy saying “I’m single and it sucks”. Hell, I’d extend that to a guy saying, “I’m single an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:35 PM
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Why are you asking teenage girls in the r/AskTeenGirls sub this, leave them out of this tf lmao 💀 Mr “I want to repel the 19th amendment” 😭😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:49 PM
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I can name three women I know off the top of my head who would LOVE this deal lmao. OP, I think where your “gotcha” or whatever is failing is that you’re assuming that being in a sexless relationship versus being sexless in general are the exact same things. Yes, both deserve empathy. But they’re fundamentally different issues. Lacking sex in a romantic relationship to those whom it’s important to is an issue because both partners doubt their connection to one another (again, IF sex is something…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:33 PM
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Well if you don’t like women, you really don’t have to spend time around us. No one’s forcing you to. I’m sorry you’ve been treated poorly in the past by women, it’s not representative of all women but I don’t think anything I say is going to change your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:05 AM
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Yeah. And if a woman laughs at you, she’s a bitch. Girls are not this collective sphere of mean evil witches who are out to demolish men and stomp them into the ground with their own insecurities. “Meanness” isn’t gender specific. Some people are just assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:45 AM
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Okay, but sexual dimorphism is still indicative of features that are more attractive on one sex than the other. That’s why we evolved them. Larger eyes are going to look MORE attractive on a woman than on a man. You’re taking my examples to the extreme. I’m not saying “caveman brow ridges”, I’m saying “more prominent than women’s”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:35 AM
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That’s valid. Different strokes for different folks and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:21 AM
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Okay? They still look better on women than men. You can’t just ask “what features look better on women than men” and then go “well those don’t count because they’re naturally occurring.” They’re still MORE attractive on women than men. Also, agree to disagree on slimmer faces and soft jaws. And I said slimmer faces, not “extra slim”. But fine, I’ll keep going. Women look better with softer features than men, a less prominent brow ridge, rounder cheekbones, smaller and more narrow chin, larger ey…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:17 AM
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I don’t know, I’m a woman and I get flattered whenever a guy cold approaches me. I’ve done some cold approaching myself since the majority of my social circle is either women or men I’m not romantically interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:11 AM
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I have the humor of a 3rd grader but “punching tits” sounds HILARIOUS to me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:08 AM
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Okay but only 32% of women are single. So we can say a good majority of men who approach women aren’t ACTUALLY getting rejected because 68% of them are in relationships. So men have over a 2/3rds chance of accidentally hitting on a taken woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:06 AM
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Slimmer faces. Softer jaws. Plumper lips. More narrow eyebrows. Smaller philtrum. Smaller hip-to-waist ratio. Boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:43 AM
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This is super interesting, thanks for doing this!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:40 AM
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Okay, but you’re acting like women weren’t doing this stuff prior to feminism. If a woman gossips about you and rejects you rudely, that’s on her. But unfortunately rejection is a part of social interaction. I’ve cold approached men before, I’ve gotten rejected, hell maybe he told his guy friends that I was an ugly bitch. I’ll literally never know. But I put myself out there anyways because if he’s gonna be an asshole about it, that says WAY more about him than it does about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:20 AM
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You have taken the words RIGHT out of my mouth. This small selection of guys isn’t mad about women’s standards being too high, they’re worried about not being the type of the conventionally attractive women they’re attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:19 PM
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The whole “if good men were truly what women wanted, they’d be pursued” argument makes no sense to me. These good men ARE being pursued. It isn’t just “halo effect” or whatever buzzword they want to throw out. Women aren’t stupid, we WANT partners who have inherently “good” traits. Guys who post rants on Reddit about how women don’t deserve them probably aren’t a great example of these “good men”. But yes, seconded, men absolutely need to raise their standards. They deserve to be pursued and fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:10 PM
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I’m telling you. This small selection of men that are angry about women’s standards being “too high” and saying “all women go for Chads” are the ones going for Instagram Models, because these freakishly hot women can actually GET the “mythical Chad”. Stay in your league and you’ll have WAY more success.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:06 PM
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LMAO radio silence from OP. 💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:04 PM
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We literally cannot win.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:03 PM
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As you should, honestly. I’m not gonna act like all women prefer ONE THING, but I seriously think there’s something to all of the women who lost their minds over Oscar Isaac wearing a skirt, or Harry Styles wearing traditionally effeminate clothing. There is nothing sexier (to some women, other women may disagree and that’s fine) than a man who is so confident in who he is that he can wear literally anything. 😮‍💨 I know you didn’t mention clothing but that’s the best example I can think of lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:11 PM
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Just randomly yelling at me for small frustrations, mostly. Or randomly giving me the silent treatment. It was pretty out of character for him. He was really struggling, I felt bad for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:08 PM
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That’s amazing!! Hell yeah dude, therapy has been incredible for me too. Therapy pals 🤝 I agree. Which is interesting, because I wonder how much of this could be mitigated by just encouraging young boys/men to express their emotions the same way we do for young girls/women rather than shutting them down and telling them to “man up”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:58 PM
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Because people love to put words in my mouth let me make the disclaimer: women do this too. Women are not perfect. It is not “okay when women do this”. Women should be held accountable for their shitty actions. I genuinely think what a lot of this comes down to is that men don’t have encouragement to take care of their mental health the same way women do. I’m sure men have been told to “man up” where a woman is comforted. I do think men are taught from a very young age that their feelings don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:45 PM
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This is a really good point. I think it’s definitely an innate bias that I may be perpetuating as a woman without even noticing it, but now that I’m cognizant of it I can work on dispelling it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:28 PM
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That’s where I’m at. Are there women out there who would think less of a guy for expressing emotions? Absolutely. Those women suck and shouldn’t be in relationships lol. But I don’t surround myself with women who believe a man’s worth is determined by how little he cries/judges men for expressing normal human emotions, so I wouldn’t know 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:23 PM
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Don’t worry man that happens to me all the time. Thank god I have people here to correct me!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:20 PM
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Well first they get a scantron test of 100 true or false “manliness” questions that they must score over 93 on,
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:19 PM
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I’m sure these tall guys have great personalities too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:49 PM
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“I have noticed that women prefer men taller than them. Therefore, the only logical conclusion is that women ONLY care about height and nothing else.” ✨flawless science✨
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 09:46 PM
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That sounds like you’re with emotionally manipulative women, then. If a woman is constantly making you “prove” you love her by explaining it to her, she’s being toxic. Where did I say it was okay for women to do that. Women doing that is just as bad. You’re pushing this narrative that I’m saying “EVIL STINKY MEN MUST ACCEPT WE LOVE THEM but perfect angel women should be babied and coddled 🥺✨” I’m not saying that. You’re putting words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 09:35 PM
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How else do you want me to explain it. I can’t explain WHY someone is attracted to someone else. But see, that’s what the problem is. You’re (royal you) assuming a potential partners thought process and you shut down anything that doesn’t logically make sense to you because you aren’t your own type, so how could you be anyone’s type? That’s not actually listening to someone, that’s just waiting for confirmation bias. And then when they inevitably leave because they’re tired of trying to prove th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 09:07 PM
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You (using royal you) have emotionally qualities they want. They have similar values. They actually find you physically attractive even if you don’t fit what is considered “conventionally” attractive. Because the universe is random and weird. The sexual chemistry is off the charts. Who knows, it could be a million things. Not everything is as black and white as “I am physically attracted to you vs. I am not physically attracted to you”. Sure, maybe if you (again, royal you) aren’t conventionally…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:56 PM
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It’s been scientifically proven. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27789950/ Because people who do that are assuming that any man/woman who has interest in them is settling. That’s forcing your own insecurities on another person. I wouldn’t want to be in a relationship with someone who feels so poorly about themselves that they tell me “I know you’re only with me because there was no better options out there”. They’re assuming they know my thought process better than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:47 PM
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How am I propping women up as angels. If a woman said “I can only get men I’m not attracted to like me,” we’d tell her to lower her standards or look inwards. And rightfully so, because if she’s getting rejected by EVERY guy she goes after, she’s probably chasing the wrong dudes. So her options are to either A: be patient and wait for one of them to like her back or B: try a different approach. So why shouldn’t it be the same for guys. I am never going to understand people’s insistence on labeli…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:12 PM
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The majority of men I’ve met in my life have been incredibly wonderful individuals. I am very glad that I have never met this very tiny minority of men who blame women for all their problems lmao 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:54 PM
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LITERALLY. 😭😂 And tabs on their wives because holy cow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:52 PM
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It sort of astounds me that a lot of guys on here just REFUSE to do this stuff because “it won’t get them a ‘looksmatched’ woman.” Half of this stuff is about doing this for yourself. If you take care of yourself, you feel better, you present more confidently. This isn’t some “put in hygiene, get out sexy woman” thing. I think so many people in here say “well I work out and shower and treat women well and they STILL don’t want me” when like. Okay, because women aren’t all the same. We’re not rob…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:23 PM
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That’s because you’re putting nerdy guys into this weird box that nerdy = sexless, ugly loser. A ton of nerdy guys I know work out, eat healthy, and are generally kind people who have — you guessed it — “looksmatched” wives (meaning women who also work out, put effort into their appearance, yada yada). Nerdy guys are not this monolith of pathetic hermit crabs who lock themselves in their mom’s basement, that’s just a weird stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:02 PM
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A guy in this thread said that a woman lying about her body count was worse than murder 💀💀💀 But remember, women are the emotional ones lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:39 PM
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“… to satisfy a man’s sexual urge for variety” “… before [women] could run through an entire football team “sampling” this man and that man.” What’s the difference if a woman or a man wants variety? You’re shaming women for “sampling” but then saying “men need variety”. For all you know these women want “variety” too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:28 PM
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👏👏👏 THIS.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:57 AM
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Nope sorry it’s all gone now 😔😔
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:55 AM
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I get your frustration, trust me — but I don’t think the majority of men are like this. If the majority of your opinions of men are due to some bad faith actors in this sub, I don’t think that’s a fair representation of all men. I would say lots of men are genuinely trying to help women. They might say misogynistic shit sometimes, but that’s due to them being a result of their environment, just like women and misandrist stuff. That’s doesn’t excuse it or dismiss the pain it’s caused you, but I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:54 AM
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Sure, but so have you guys. Just because we had a patriarchal society didn’t mean men had NO problems. It shouldn’t be something you guys have to “compete” with because your problems aren’t less valid than ours. I mean, men have suffered in ways that I, a woman, can’t understand — being told to “man up”, less encouragement for mental health/social support, more pressure to balance financial betterment with family life, etc. — I’ll never be able to, I’m not a guy. That’s why I get a little nervou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:48 AM
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I honestly was in the camp of “all men are trash” for all of like. 4 months until my brother called me out on it. I was a lot younger then, but even still I was glad he pointed out what a harmful rhetoric that is before I ended up actually saying it in front of someone that wasn’t my girl friends or my brother. All in all, yeesh. I hope those women get a grip, that’s a really gross thing to say to another human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:32 AM
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I mean, I get what you mean. But I think it ends up being this continuous issue of “well YOU were sexist FIRST!”. I know you said it should be “fair game”, but I don’t think us being misandrist is going to make any men think to themselves, “hm, I REALLY don’t like when women think I am inherently stupider than them. I wonder how women feel when I think they’re all DEI hires….” or whatever. It’s just going to make them feel more alienated and less listened to. Now I DO think that both sexes have …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:28 AM
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Yes, that’s what I’m referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:17 AM
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Honestly? Fair enough. I don’t 100% agree with OP’s premise but I think your view point is fair to both parties and I can’t really disagree with it. Dumping some sperm in the sperm bank is also pretty genius lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:28 AM
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The less poor decision. But this isn’t a black and white thing. I think a better question would be “someone is faced with a decision where one outcome is better than the other. The better decision results in them having to potentially endure physical and emotional trauma for the rest of their lives. The worst decision is due to them forcing to take responsibility because of the actions of someone else.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:07 AM
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I’m not saying the child WILL have an optimal life, but neither do kids who lose their parents later in life, children who grow up in extreme poverty, children who have abusive parents, etc etc. No one is dealt a perfect hand in life. That isn’t to minimize the suffering children of single parents experience, but it seems pretty extreme to say “single parents should abort their children because of this”. Okay, but then why are we stopping there? Let’s go a step further and prevent women from hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:51 AM
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Are you going to have a discussion or keep correcting my grammar? Maybe reword your post if so many people are “misinterpreting” it. You never responded to my other comment, anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:49 AM
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I’m not saying the child WILL have an optimal life, but neither do kids who lose their parents later in life, children who grow up in extreme poverty, children who have abusive parents, etc etc. No one is dealt a perfect hand in life. That isn’t to minimize the suffering children of single parents experience, but it seems pretty extreme to say “single parents should abort their children because of this”. Okay, but then why are we stopping there? Let’s go a step further and prevent women from hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:47 AM
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You think it’s morally right. Just because everyone doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean “society has a problem”. Unfortunately, society is full of people who don’t agree with people. I don’t think it’s morally right to pressure women into how they control their body because the man isn’t interested in being a grown up and facing the consequences of his actions. If we want to do that, though, and pressure these women — fine. But if she’s doing it because the father won’t be active in the child’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:10 AM
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Get dat fetus, kill dat fetus https://preview.redd.it/0pm6tyydbwte1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c68d2531b9e1289b943ee771149dc53f92239ed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:42 PM
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But you’re forcing the entirety of the solution on women. Abortion is not an easy process on the body. The man should at the very least have to pay for the entirety of the abortion if HE is solely choosing to leave and the woman would carry to term if he didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:33 PM
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Thank you for telling me what I think. I obviously am just comforting myself at night while women sob in my arms over the psychological weight and physical stress that comes with abortion, whether desired or medically necessary. Could you also tell me my thoughts on the current political climate and what I want for dinner tonight? I would really appreciate that. I already explained to you what she said. OP is saying it is “unacceptable for children to grow up without a father. Therefore, the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:22 PM
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I help women through abortions as part of my job. It’s not murder. She’s asking where the line should be drawn. If you want to choose to intentionally misunderstand her, you are more than welcome to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:09 PM
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I seriously don’t think she’s pretending. OP’s post seems to be suggesting that “it is better for a child to be dead than to grow up without a father/with only a single parent”. So she’s asking where the line should be drawn. If the father/mother abandons when the child is 2 years old, would it be better for the child to be dead? <— I’m not saying I agree with that or am asking that I’m just explaining the point she’s trying to raise to OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:02 PM
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I’m definitely not going to argue that it isn’t dated. I’ve taken to doing some cold approaching myself since I’m a pretty outgoing person and would like to not limit my chances to just online dating. At the end of the day, I mean — do what you gotta do. If you dont want to cold approach, you really don’t have to. I’ve known plenty of men who have been successful without cold approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:55 PM
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I mean, I sort of figured “in all cases conception should not proceed to childbirth” was insisting but fine, I’m sorry, I used the wrong word. But even heavily suggesting that the woman should terminate the pregnancy is still extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:33 PM
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I think this is sort of an extreme take. Are there absent fathers/mothers out there? For sure. But I think insisting that the biological mother should terminate the pregnancy if the biological father chooses to walk away is sort of extreme. Every child deserves to be given the best possible environment to grow up in, but I don’t think the solution is “abort kids who won’t get this environment”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:19 PM
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It’s LITERALLY this <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:20 PM
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So these men are getting into relationships they feel enthusiastic about eventually it’s just taking a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:19 PM
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But then why don’t these men just. Wait until they pick someone they like. I know the argument is “well the alternative is not being in a relationship” but if these women “aren’t even in their top dozen/hundreds” then it sounds like these guys are just shooting themselves in the foot. Their options are either be sad and lonely or be sad and in a relationship with someone they feel like they settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:16 PM
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I mean, sure, okay. I think we’re gonna have to agree to disagree since I still think that it’s way more likely that 68% of women are in age gap relationships. Again, I agree that sure, some of these guys are dating multiple women at once, I’m not disputing that. I just don’t think it makes up the majority. I do appreciate us having a civil convo about this though, go us 🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:02 PM
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It’s because the “fEmAlEs ArE hIdInG tHe TrUtH, bUt NoW tHe MaSk iS sLiPpInG” <— something I have heard. So many times on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:56 PM
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I’m so confused. Is it “situationship” or is it dating. The point I’m trying to make is did the other women know about one another/that you were dating them. Because if they did know, then fine that’s fair enough, that’s on them. I applaud you for being able to date that many women at once. But if they didn’t know, then you didn’t give them enough information to make the conscious decision to go “I am going to date this man even though he is dating multiple other women”. You can’t prove that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:53 PM
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Truly they are the unsung heroes of our generation 😩😔
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:44 PM
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I mean, I can’t really say anything to disprove your anecdotal experience other than say mine is the exact opposite. The majority of my girl friends ages 25-29 are dating men ages 29-34. I am sure there are men out there who are juggling multiple women at once, fine, but even then I think this paints an unfair picture of men as serial cheaters. Just because you were willing to be polyamorous (I can’t assume if it was ethical or if you were cheating since you didn’t specify) doesn’t mean EVERY ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:43 PM
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And you know what? Good for them hell yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:38 PM
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Oh well that makes PERFECT sense then! 🤪 All sexless marriages are because the woman currently decides that she REALLY cares about height. 😂 Chad, Chad, where art thou Chad….
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:37 PM
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I am in TEARS 😭😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:31 PM
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“I’ve noticed that men that involve themselves with the manosphere typically don’t check off the “safe” category with women.” As a woman I can confirm this is true. It’s so buried in revenge fantasies for women and seeing them as the inferior gender that I’d sooner be alone for the rest of my life than date anyone who subscribes to the “manosphere”. There’s a huge difference between “holding women accountable” (which is valid and should be done) and straight up hating women for not sleeping with…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:55 PM
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31% of lesbian relationships at between the ages of 18-29 versus 21% of gay relationships in the same age range (1). So there are significantly more gay women in the age range we’re discussing that are in same sex relationships. How come the ONLY conclusion that can be drawn is that 14% of men are somehow juggling 68% of women. I’m not saying that that doesn’t account for ANY of those numbers but I don’t think it’s that large. Maybe men and women define relationships differently (a woman might t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:42 PM
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Literally 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:31 PM
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If boys were drilled to have less of a victim mentality then y’all wouldn’t be on here bitching about how women “only” want “chads”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:04 PM
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“I don’t have any friends because WOMEN!!!!” Perfect makes sense 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:01 PM
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That study doesn’t prove that the manosphere isn’t built entirely on in group bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:55 PM
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I believe a significant enough chunk are based on a lot of the posts on this sub. Also, part of the 68% is lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:51 PM
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I agree with this and the entire OP. I’d love to encourage men to be selective about the women they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:50 PM
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Based on what study. I want to see indisputable evidence that 68% of women are dating 14% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:47 PM
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I feel like it’s so bizarre that the immediate thing that a lot of people jump to on this sub is that “all women want a man over 6 foot”, as if we view ourselves as “settling” for anything less. 14.5% of men in the U.S. are over 6 feet tall. But 68% of women ages 18-29 are in a relationship. So, what, are the majority of these women “settling”?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:25 PM
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What is up with all of these “all women are the exact same” posts today? 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:08 AM
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But you’re making a conclusion of an entire sex based on a small sample size. Again, that isn’t to invalidate your experience. But I think it’s a huge generalization of 4 billion people to say “The women I asked out rejected me, therefore I know women truly do not want good guys”. There’s so many variables to consider. Women have been (rightfully) called out for saying “all men are sexually driven monsters” based on their experiences of a few men, because that’s objectively wrong of the women to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:01 AM
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Seriously. It’s really scary. This is beyond “I feel hurt and ostracized and I feel like I have a community here.” This is legitimate hatred. (And yes, to anyone reading, any feminist who were to allude that all men are inherently evil would be just as mentally ill.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:54 AM
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I in no way think I am a victim nor insinuated that I am one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:42 AM
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Okay, fair enough. I inherently agree with your first two points. Rejecting anyone in a cruel way makes you an asshole. I am also against depending on men financially for dates. I do think your last point is not nearly as common as you think it is, though. Maybe you’ve seen it a lot more than I have, but none of my girl friends have ever gone for the “bad boy”. They’re all dating pretty sweet men. I’m not saying that to invalidate your experience but I think a lot of people bring this up thinkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:37 AM
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But “ugly” women should know their place and not interact with “high value men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:56 AM
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How do all women exhibit red pilling behavior, though. What is this red pilling behavior we’re doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:30 AM
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Not trying to argue, genuinely trying to understand. Do you have examples of misandry that people do without realizing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:30 AM
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I am seriously concerned that some of these guys are going to seriously hurt someone on the basis of “those mean women made me do it”. Genuinely. Some of the stuff here is so beyond detached from reality that I’m a little concerned for their mental health. This is the same stuff the men and women who are getting convinced for murder tell me when they’re in the hospital for their health exams before they get sent back to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:17 AM
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Good lord, I’m so sorry you went through that. That’s incredibly fucked. Those women should be charged with assault. No one gets a free pass from abuse because “the victim should’ve been able to defend themselves”. I hope you’re in a safer place now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:14 PM
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I agree with this. I think it’s less that “male suffering/victimization in abusive relationships is becoming less acknowledged” and more so that “male suffering/victimization in abusive relationships has NEVER been acknowledged.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:11 PM
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So many men on here already express frustration about having to “pursue” women romantically. I really don’t think it’s a good idea to insinuate that women should force men to jump through hoops/do more to “prove their attraction”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:32 PM
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I’m debating OP. I quoted him in the first paragraph. Men are more than welcome to sleep with people they aren’t attracted to, but then they don’t get to act like martyrs over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:04 PM
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Okay but your post says that “women should know they’re not attractive for hot men” and that is somehow “she doesn’t care about his pleasure because he’s not attracted to her”. My point is, HOW are women “not completely innocent in this situation”. If that woman thought that this guy was just sleeping with her to get his rocks off and he resents her for not being as sexy as he wants, 9/10 she isn’t going to go through with it. If a man is “lowering his standards” to the point that he resents the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:59 PM
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Imagine thinking you’re so hot that you’re doing “ugly” people a “favor” by sleeping with them. 😂😂😂 I love the internet oh my god
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:32 PM
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But how are these women supposed to “just know” they’re ugly. Seriously. If a dude is trying to hookup with me on a dating app, I am going to assume he’s attracted to me on some level. I am not a mind reader. If you are sleeping with women you don’t find attractive, you aren’t a martyr for doing it. I don’t feel bad for you because no one is MAKING you sleep with these women. Besides, what do you think the solution for this is? “Ugly” women get off the apps so these hot dudes don’t have to suffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:22 PM
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No no, she had the AUDACITY to not be a super model. Thats why she doesn’t care about his pleasure. Come on keep up!! 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:15 PM
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He’s clearly not that attractive if he can’t get a woman he’s attracted to to sleep with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:12 PM
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“wHeN wIlL wOmEn TaKe AcCoUnTaBiLiTy”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:09 PM
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You’re again talking about 1’s and 10’s. I’m attracted to brunette men. If I go on a date with a blonde guy, I don’t get to bitch that I find him ugly and he should know he isn’t my type. You can’t expect unconventionally attractive women to know “no men will ever find her attractive” because there ARE conventionally attractive men who will find her attractive. Are they the minority? Sure. But if a dude is wasting his time on someone he isn’t interested in, that is HIS fault. He doesn’t have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:08 PM
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But how in the world is she supposed to know “nah, he’s probably not attracted to me”. People have different types. Someone’s 4 is another persons 6. No, I’m not saying 1’s and 10’s are gonna be mixed up but if a dude is wasting his time trying to get with me I’m gonna assume he’s attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:59 PM
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How in the world does that mean “women aren’t completely innocent”. No one is forcing this dude to sleep with her. And for the record, no I don’t believe women are always innocent. I just have no clue why you’re trying to act like it’s the woman’s fault that the dude chose to sleep with someone he isn’t attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:50 PM
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“Generally the dynamic is a man lowering his standards considerably to sleep with a woman he isn't really attracted to. Since he doesn't find her particularly attractive and might resent her on some level for taking advantage of a power dynamic to sleep with a guy much more attractive than herself, he probably isn't going to put much effort into her pleasure. Add to the fact that he sees her as easily replaceable and there are few consequences for putting in no effort into pleasing his partner a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:45 PM
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But isn’t that exactly what you’re doing right now? Accusing all women of identifying with radical feminists because you don’t hear us calling them out and holding them accountable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 05:31 PM
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Oh my god I remember that!! I had totally forgotten about that. Ugh, those poor families and women. Thank you for working during the pandemic 🥹💕
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:43 PM
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“Typical female.” “Why does no one love me?? Why won’t anyone invite me to hang out?? 🥺🥺🥺🥺 It’s probably because I’m so much SMARTER and EMOTIONALLY STABLE than everyone!!1!!1!1” lmao ok dude
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:40 AM
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My mom did the SAME THING 😂 My dad and I would go camping and give my mom some very much so deserved “introvert time” lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:32 AM
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You gotta stop calling yourself a “low value man”. That’s not a thing. You’re not a product. I don’t know what to tell you, dude. Maybe you’re ostracized from social circles because you spout shit like “those normie femcels would kill themselves if they had to do a day of what I go through LOL!!!! So glad they got a taste of their own medicine when millions of people fucking died!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:20 AM
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People were FORCED inside during COVID (to reduce the spread). You are not being forced inside. No one is making you stay inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:08 AM
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Dude, people died during the pandemic. People were terrified for their lives. I was a healthcare worker during COVID, I saw COUNTLESS people in excruciating pain, forced into medically induced comas, and forced to be alone during one of the most scary and vulnerable moments of their lives because of restrictions. Some people are still suffering from Long COVID. There is a HUGE difference between being stuck inside your house due to a viral pandemic and refusing to go outside. This is a low fucki…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:02 AM
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“Imaging being a kissless virgin” “Women are fragile hypocrites” Yeah dude it’s a mystery why you aren’t getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:58 AM
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😂😂😂 To be fair, I think they’re ACTUALLY parroting Jordan Peterson. But when you ask for data, that’s the study they give you. Here’s the study if you want to check it out. To be fair, I think it’s an INCREDIBLY flawed study. There’s no methodology in it so we have no idea how this guy even got this data other than he “looked at people’s inboxes” and “asked them to rate users”. https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:22 AM
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The 80/20 thing is so funny to me because people love to cite that OKCupid study and say “see? Women rated most men as below average” and then completely omit the part of the study that shows that men were disproportionately messaging the hottest women WAY more than the average looking ones, where as the women were messaging the men pretty much along the same curve that they rated them attractive. The call is coming from inside the house. But, anyways, yeah I don’t really think anyone needs to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:06 AM
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Oh sure, I agree with that. I should’ve left that adjective out, I was just referring to what I personally think it sounds like when people say “older women are more XYZ”. But you’re right, jaded wasn’t a good descriptor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:26 PM
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That’s why I really dislike the argument of “older women are inherently more stubborn/jaded/annoying/whatever”. I’m not trying to paint all older women as saints, but it feels like when people say this, they’re referring to the fact that older women have more boundaries and are more sure of who they are. I don’t understand why I never hear the same complaint about older men in the context of dating. And don’t get me wrong, I don’t think 100% of all age gap relationships fall into this. I’m sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 06:33 PM
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“Women will quite clearly lie. This is why I care about their opinion, which I will accuse them of lying about because all women are liars. This is a smart decision.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 06:28 PM
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But these people are getting broken up with when they become/reveal themselves to be violent/aggressive. They’re getting into relationships before they reveal that they’re violent/aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:41 AM
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Abusive men and women aren’t getting into relationships by BEING aggressive/violent right out the gate, though. They can (sometimes) be charming/charismatic early on (from what I’ve gathered from people who have been in abusive relationships).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:31 AM
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Maybe if you were a little less condescending I’d be inclined to answer. You have a good night!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:21 AM
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I said that because I was trying to point out the fault in his logic. That’s why I said “that’s LIKE me saying this”. “You saying you know women better because you date them is LIKE me saying I know men better because I date them”. Those are both objectively false statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:45 AM
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I know. That’s what I’m telling him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:35 AM
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If you don’t try to perform then WHY did you just spend the entire conversation saying “Me trying to make a girl laugh is effort and performance. Me deciding when and how I am supposed to tough a girl is effort and performance.” And then all of the sudden “well I didn’t actually mean me”. WHAT 😂😂😂 No you’re not good with women because you listen to what men THINK works on women over what WOMEN say works on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:50 AM
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Okay, but you’re the common denominator here. I’m not saying that to be an asshole, I’m just trying to point out — has it ever occurred to you that this “I must perform technique” isn’t working? You don’t have to date women you find “fat and ugly” what 😭😭 They don’t want men who think they’re “fat and ugly”. Save both yourselves the time and just don’t date. That’s what dating looks like for YOU. Again, I have dozens of guy friends and all of my brothers saying this isn’t what dating is like at …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:36 AM
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Then don’t date these women? There are women out there who will engage and start conversations first. ALL of my female friends engage equally in conversations. You don’t have to date women who act like dead fish on dates. You keep summarizing women as if “this is how ALL women act 100% of the time!!!!!”. It’s not. Several of my friends (women) are far chattier than their husbands. Three of them thought their boyfriends didn’t like them at first because they didn’t talk a whole lot on the first d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:26 AM
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We actually provide nothing I can’t wait for all women to die off so all the men can stop being burdened by our existence. Darn us and our sexy bodies!!!! (I’m being sarcastic if you couldn’t tell. 🤪)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:11 AM
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That’s a HUGE leap in logic. Why not just come as you are to a date rather than having to do this song and dance for women because “otherwise they won’t like you”? You’re A: going to exhaust yourself and B: you’re selling yourself short because the woman is gonna find out who you are when you’re not performing, anyways. There’s nothing fundamentally wrong with being “on” or being “on your best behavior”, that’s normal we all want to show our best sides. But I’m asking my guy friends and my broth…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:09 AM
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Me: Men shouldn’t perform for women, I don’t think you’re viewing women as equals if you think you need to “perform” for them. You: Then you have a Cluster B Personality Disorder. Perfect argument no notes. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:02 AM
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Him: brings home the bread Her: …… sets out the bread (?????)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:58 PM
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Could I not say literally the exact same thing about you. You’re the one saying “men must perform to please women”. 😭 But yes I’m so narcissistic. Me and my stupid woman brain daring to have autonomous thoughts! 🤪🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:55 PM
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Wow you really sound like you like women and view them as equals 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:50 PM
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Men are not zoo animals what 😭😭 If you think you need to be “on” the entire time you’re in a relationship you are setting yourself up for a miserable existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:48 PM
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Okay, well if YouTube is such a good argument then I saw a video saying all men want to kill all women, and you can’t refute that because I saw it on the internet, meaning it’s inherently true. I don’t think you’re an idiot, but you sound like you’re refusing to listen to women because YouTube told you otherwise. If I were to get all my information about men from YouTube and then told any man who told me otherwise they were wrong, would you not be suspect? I can’t go to Germany and say I know ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 07:25 PM
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I am literally a woman. You do not have more knowledge on women because you “date them”. That’s like me saying I know men better than you do because I date men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 07:07 PM
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Women telling you “that is not true” is a LOT more reliable than someone who is making content on YouTube who is ONLY concerned with getting views. Rage bait gets views. You are being propagandized to and you are falling for it hook line and sinker. A video showing a man “getting lots of respectful convos with women” isn’t going to get NEARLY as many views as “stupid angry bitches throw hissy fits when I ask them to give me $5 for their $200 meal1!!2!2!1!”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 03:20 PM
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Literally says who. I’m an American woman and I will almost always go dutch, or I pay for the date if I’m the one who asked the guy out. All of my girl friends do the same thing. If the girls you’re asking out are throwing “hissy fits” over this, they’re weeding themselves out for you but they don’t represent the majority. And “girls on TikTok” is not a source. That’s rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 03:17 PM
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But if you view dating only as a job interview, you’re setting yourself up for failure. Dating isn’t a “oh I hope I impress her enough to get into a relationship”, it’s “let’s see if there’s enough chemistry between us to make this a thing”. If there’s not, you can’t force it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 03:15 PM
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Girl what is this post. 😭 This is a WILD take based of a small selection. Are there guys who prefer younger women over literally anything else? Sure, fine, Leonardo DiCaprio is a fine example. But you’re treating all men as a monolith based on a minority of men. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Technology/story?id=98441&page=1 Dr. George Fieldman (evolutionary psychologist) found that men prefer older women when they perceive them as attractive. There’s a reason “MILFs” and “cougars” are a thing. Your…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 01:08 PM
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Not a man. OP please tell me you’re being satirical. What. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 01:42 AM
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Okay. Can you describe “women’s bs” to me? I want to hear your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 12:30 AM
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You bring up good points that are also examples of ways men are disadvantaged in society. I still stand by point 4. Are you gonna agree that women have any unfair disadvantages at all or am I just going to be arguing with a brick wall who believes men are the oppressed sex (To be clear, I do not believe women are oppressed anymore in most western 1st world countries).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:22 PM
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That’s so infuriating. I’m really sorry, I don’t blame you at all. Trying to carry a conversation with a ghost is a LOST cause. 🥲 I hope you have/sure you will have a partner who pursues you!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:19 PM
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Thank you. I’ve had to mute this thread because I’m no longer getting good faith arguments, just men (I am NOT saying all men do this or this is a behavior inherent to men, and I’m sure if there were more female Reddit users they’d be doing the exact same thing) pointing out their disadvantages that I missed, and that their privileges aren’t really privileges or are the byproduct of misandry. I’ve corrected myself a million times in this thread to try to avoid hurting their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:18 PM
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“I wish the fat women would stay in their own league.” “These fat women are not finding 8’s willing to call her his girlfriend.” “What I’m referring to is the delusion that these [fat] women are very attractive.” You’re calling fat women “low tier women” and expecting me to not find that hateful. If I start calling men the “low tier gender” would that not make me look misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:15 PM
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But you’re only giving me anecdotal evidence. You say “watch what woman do” but what I’m seeing is the exact opposite to what you’re describing. We can argue this all day and night but at the end of the day neither of us can prove we’re factually correct unless we have data to back us up. I have data. That “graph” from OKCupid that everyone loves to reference leaves out two things. One, even though women were “more harsh judges” of appearance, they were still more likely to message men that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:12 PM
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I’m asking this genuinely, I’m not trying to prove a point but I want to know: what do red pillers think the men that don’t subscribe to the red pill are doing to get into relationships? I’m not talking about the 10/10 giga-chads or whatever. I’m talking about your regular ol’ average joe, solid 5/10, median wage job. These guys are getting girlfriends too without subscribing to red pill. So what do red pillers think these men are doing differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 10:50 PM
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Well the way you talk about them isn’t really proving that you don’t hate them. Just don’t date them. If they ask you out, turn them down. No one’s holding you at gun point to date a fat woman, you’re allowed to only want to date thin woman there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s just bizarre that you’re on this thread bashing the fact that fat women even DARE think they have a chance with you. It’s nothing to be offended over. Fat guys like me, I just don’t swipe right. I don’t think they should …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 10:44 PM
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For a guy who hates fat women, he surely thinks about them a LOT… 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 09:20 PM
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Do you have information to back up that men are “far less picky”? Outside of anecdotal evidence. Because if all of the evidence is anecdotal, all of my anecdotal evidence says the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 09:00 PM
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For sure, I agree with both of what you said. At the end of the day it isn’t important who “suffers more” since shutting down one side is just going to build resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 08:53 PM
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Research shows that men tend to value appearance more than women do. “Consistent with this idea, a robust body of empirical research demonstrates that, when asked about their ideal mate, heterosexual men indicate a stronger preference for physical attractiveness than do heterosexual women.” Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4011637/#:~:text=Consistent%20with%20this%20idea%2C%20a,attractiveness%20than%20do%20heterosexual%20women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 08:30 PM
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I seriously feel like OP is spot on. The small minority of men that fall into this RP seem to have this weird revenge fantasy against women that they view as unattainable, and then they form their entire lives around… getting those women. And by the time they do achieve their goals and become an “alpha male”, the vast majority of women don’t want them because they genuinely view women as subhuman by this point. I find it funny how when I do encounter someone who has seriously taken the red pill/…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 07:36 PM
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I don’t think opinion pieces are inherently invalid as long as they’re sticking to anecdotal experiences and not trying to present as factually correct. That being said — that was a really interesting read and very eye opening. I do agree that psychology is female dominated though, 100%. I think I was trying to argue that I don’t feel like men are “shunned” from it so to speak, but that may be untrue. I can understand your point on “men lacking on this is mens fault” being incorrect. I think you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:34 PM
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I think you’re the one making the appeal to authority fallacy if the definition of the appeal to authority fallacy is “insisting that a claim is true ny citing the opinion of an authority figure”. I’m pointing out that this guys “common sense” doesn’t negate studies. I am more than happy to admit I’m wrong if I can see actual studies that prove otherwise. Banque de France’s study has several economists/economist professors who support my claim. Mark Perry is one economist professor who didn’t ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:20 PM
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Interesting studies, thank you. I think the Payscale one is true and more eloquently puts what I’m trying to say. I’m not saying you’re wrong but out of genuine curiosity — what section in the article did it say the wage gap sometimes favors women? Again, I’m sure your statement has merit I just want to close my potential knowledge gap. The Uber report is really interesting and makes sense. I’ve said this in a few other comments that I don’t believe the gender wage gap is because “men are evil s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:14 PM
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I definitely understand that, I don’t take it personally at all! I can see that. I guess my opinion is pretty mainstream but I should also be more aware and open that a lot of men struggle with this and their opinions on the matter are being shut down because “men have no problems” which is just. A seriously bad and wrong take lol. I’m glad you brought it up, though. I clearly need to educate myself more on infant male circumcision and how it affects men long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:07 PM
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No worries! Thank you for hearing me out. Yeah, I’m sorry about that lmao I just woke up after a really long shift so nothing I’m saying really makes any sense. Even reading it back I’m confusing myself. Unless you meant what I said in general in which case, still incredibly valid lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:53 PM
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Sure, I can see that. I genuinely haven’t done enough research on this to be able to disprove/affirm what you’re saying, but if that is true than I agree that doesn’t make any sense. I do also think it’s important that men are given voices to advocate for them feeling like part of their bodily autonomy was taken away because they couldn’t make an informed decision. Granted I do see an argument for male circumcision brought up a lot that it reduces the spread of HPV, but I A: have no sources to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:49 PM
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I think this is a good point that I missed when I pointed out the gender wage gap. I don’t think it’s due to inherent sexism of a bunch of men being like “we are going to pay women less than men because we’re sexist mwuahahahhaa!!!” But I do think it’s interesting to explore why women feel more pressure to provide more at home versus why men feel more pressured to provide financially if the playing field is even for us now. Why is it that men are working enough overtime and women are picking up …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:38 PM
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That’s fair. I’m not a man so I don’t think I get to say “what you’re saying is objectively incorrect” because that would dismiss your experience as a man. I do want to ask though for the sake of debate — I’ve seen a lot of studies that indicate that male circumcision is beneficial to men in that in reduces the risk of HPV. Has your research shown any merit behind that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:35 PM
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Okay, that’s fine, I very well may be wrong. But in order to be on the same page as you I need to see studies that show me the opposite. But why is that. This is not me trying to say “men are evil”. I want to understand why men are pushed to provide more financially, and women aren’t pushed to provide more childrearing duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:13 PM
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But you cited the American Enterprise Institute. That isn’t a study, that’s an opinion article. Men absolutely do experience more violence than women do. I am not arguing that. I just didn’t think to include it in a men vs women privilege difference since the male violence is mainly perpetuated by other men versus society as a whole. If you got 100 “likes” a day but it was all women you were unattracted to (completely different political alignment, overweight or underweight, etc.) would you cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:11 PM
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I think this is such a great take and explains perfectly what point I’m trying to get across in my post. I do firmly believe that a lot of men have not been given the ability to speak up in spaces where women have, and vice versa. I see a lot of “but when will THIS SEX take ACCOUNTABILITY!!” and I’m not going to say that sentiment NEVER has any merit. But I’ve learned a few things about the male experience that I hadn’t considered by being on this sub, and I’ve had my mind changed a few time. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:29 PM
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I think that’s a valid point. I personally believe that if we want to acknowledge privilege of one side we need to acknowledge how both sides experiences advantages, but at the end of the day you’re leveling the play field the same way so I don’t think your approach is inherently incorrect on that basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:08 PM
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Fair enough, I can see that. I do agree that men are more likely to build professional support networks. And I want to make an important distinction — I do not think that women are paid on average less because “men are evil and want all women to die and go home and make babies”. That’s not true. It’s a lot more nuanced than that. But I bring up the gender wage gap because I want to understand why women are not encouraged to join these groups, just like why men are not encouraged to join groups t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:06 PM
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Thank you! Do you want to elaborate on that at all? I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m here to be open minded and consider what you’re saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:59 PM
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Thank you! I’m sure there’s a lot of arguments that can be made against what I’ve stated because I’m operating under my own innate, subconscious biases — but I think for the most part everyone’s been pretty good at calling out my gaps of knowledge and adding in important caveats that I didn’t consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:59 PM
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It doesn’t entirely disappear, though. I am absolutely in agreement with you that women tend to take lower paying jobs (like another comment, nail tech vs underwater metal welder). And I do NOT think that the wage gap is perpetuated because “big mean stinky men wanna take away women’s rights”. But I think it’s important to understand why men are working more than women/feel more pressure to provide financially, and why women feel more pressure to be at home with the kids. And why does that still…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:57 PM
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My sources say otherwise. If you have sources that prove the opposite I’m happy to take a look, I could be wrong. But that’s what I found. I didn’t include that women are less likely to be the victim of a violent crime because the majority of violence against men is perpetuated by other men. It’s not a male vs female thing. I’d argue I made that point in number 2, but I think that “having a lot of romantic options” is vastly overestimated and doesn’t take into consideration that women are not in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:44 PM
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Can you provide some links? I’ve never seen this before.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:40 PM
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I think the important distinction in the study you linked is that 19% of women say that feminism describes them “very” well, while 42% say “somewhat” well. I’d argue that that means that 42% consider themselves feminist but do not adhere to every single believe of the feminist movement — such as the fact that women have no inherent privileges. I do agree that a lot of people on that sub seem to be resistant to the idea that women have inherent privileges in certain areas. I’m not an expert on fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:39 PM
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Sure, I can see that. I do agree that men are statistically much more likely to experience violence than women are. I think that gender roles come into play because the violence experienced by men is typically perpetuated by other men, versus the violence experienced by women is perpetuated by men in domestic settings. That doesn’t mean that men experiencing violence is not an issue that needs to be taken seriously just because “other men do it”. But that’s why I didn’t include it in my original…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:36 PM
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So I did take a look at your post and approached it with an unbiased mind. I will absolutely agree with you that being “made to penetrate” is rape and needs to be considered as such in statistical analysis. To not do so is misandry. However, I’d like to push back that being able to remember something that happened over 12 months ago doesn’t make the data faulty. If I include lifetime prevalence of rape (including being made to penetrate) by using your math: (219,000 + 1,692,000) + (1,715,000 + 6…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:31 PM
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Alright, you have a good night!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:31 AM
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But this isn’t a one scenario thing. This is across the board. If both men and women are getting hired and doing the exact same job but one sex is consistently getting paid less than the other despite everything else being equal, that’s cause for concern and discussion. WHY is the woman getting paid less than the man if she is working an equal amount of hours and started the same time he did? I don’t think it’s fair to tell said woman to “shut up and be grateful” because there’s clearly an under…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:28 AM
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I mean, a 30k difference is pretty huge if everything between both of them is 100% equal (same qualifications, same job, same firm, seniority, etc). I understand that she may be doing better than the majority of other people, but if she making less for the same amount of effort as her male counterpart, than I’d argue that would be an example of male privilege/female disadvantage against that woman. Now if this man has 20 years more experience than her? That’s an entirely different story. But the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:17 AM
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I can understand what you’re saying, but I want to raise a counterpoint that men do typically benefit from 4 and 5. 4 applies to all men if they’ve ever been a patient, and 5 applies in general. I’m not saying that to dismiss your problems as a man, but just to raise another view to what you’re saying. I can see your argument for 1, 2 and 3 though from the aspects of male privilege. I do also want to argue (not literally but you get what I mean) that 5 is less of an “every day” benefit for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:10 AM
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Honestly, I do agree with this to a certain extent (I only specify “certain extent” because there could be caveats that I’m not remembering off the top of my head). I do think a lot (not all, but a lot) of our respective privileges are tied a LOT more to biological differences than we give credit to. I’m still glad that we’re discussing it openly and criticizing these differences so that people don’t feel like they’re being shoved into boxes (man = strong = work! Woman = nurture = childcare!), b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:29 AM
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Trust me I agree with you. There’s no use even talking to this guy, I’m pretty sure he’s a troll. 🥴 I’m just ignoring him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:56 AM
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Being emotionally heard also really gets me fired up idk about you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:49 AM
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Wow, I’ve never even considered that before. I actually had a similar experience with my Dad (at a state fair), where he pointed out that people would move out of his way but wouldn’t move out of my way. I sort of just figured it was because I was younger or smaller, but what you’re saying could be equally true — maybe people just felt like they needed “more space” from him for some weird, subconscious biased reason. Or that they didn’t “need” to give me space. Or both lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:37 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:35 AM
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For sure. And like I said to another woman on here, I didn’t make this post to white knight men (or women), more so just to address that it feels like debates on here devolve into this weird “well actually I have it objectively worse because your sex is privileged in this insert niche area here” and I don’t feel like that’s conducive to a productive conversation (And yes I am aware I am being really naive to assume that all redditors argue in good faith lmao)/actually hearing out what anyone has…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:32 AM
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Damn. I hadn’t even considered that, but I can definitely see that. I think you bring up a really good point. I don’t even have anything else to add I just think you’re objectively correct 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:28 AM
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I think that’s a really good point and an important distinction. I also 100% agree on the “Dr. OldWhiteGuy and Woman [PhD]”, I’m a PA so I’ve never experienced that but the amount of times my female supervising doctors have told me that that’s happened to them. You just gotta laugh at it 😂 I agree with your sentiment. I didn’t make this post to try to white knight for either side, but more so because I find that each side seems to bring up “well YOUR (opposite) sex is so much more privileged tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:26 AM
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Hm, interesting. Fair enough though, I can see why that would be frustrating. I don’t add this to discount your experience but just to add to our discussion — I think a lot of women feel similarly regarding less emotional spaces. I’m talking political and job-related discussions. That isn’t to say men aren’t dismissed in emotion-based discussions because “one side has it worse”, but I think a lot of women feel similarly in the sense that they feel ignored when it comes to more logical discussion…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:17 AM
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Oh wow, I was missing a LOT of information huh lol. Thank you for educating me, I genuinely missed this stuff but you bring up really good points that I hadn’t considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:11 AM
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I hear what you’re saying, but I really haven’t experienced this personally. That isn’t to disregard your experience I just haven’t personally shared it. Do you have any examples of subs where this might be more prevalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:03 AM
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I really love this take, I experienced similar education for my medical training! Granted I don’t want to say “this is 100% true for all platforms” since I’m not a guy but I do appreciate that as a society we’re encouraging men to speak up more about their hardships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:54 AM
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Sure, I can agree with that. I also agree that women on average tend to choose jobs that pay less (I’ll throw out nail tech vs. underwater metal welder as a weird example). I believe that women not working as much overtime is likely due to still feeling like they need to be the primary child rearers, hence why they don’t work as often — but I don’t think that that’s because “all the big stinky men are making them do so”. I just think it’s a byproduct of a society that used to think “men go to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:41 AM
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Oh sure, I can understand that. Yeah I don’t really think that would benefit anyone to sideline mens issues while working for both sexes to get better conditions out of society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:19 AM
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Ohhh sure, I agree with that sentiment. My bad then lol I totally misread your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:19 AM
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I do think your advice has merit, but I don’t think it’s specific to men. I do think that anyone who believes they are entitled to a relationship needs to reconsider their priorities, and that no one should obsess so much over a romantic relationship that they hate the very sex they’re trying to pursue (this can apply to either sex/any gender). But I also think the vast majority of men who are actively pursuing relationships are not the ones who believe women’s standards are too high, just like …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:55 PM
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The reasons cited were that women couldn’t pass the physical aptitude test and that women were less likely to pull the trigger on a gun when faced with imminent danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:08 PM
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Yup that’s totally what I said. I said “you can only date people you have something in common with” word for word. 10/10 interpretation have a great day
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:05 PM
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I mean, fair enough. I have nothing to debate, you guys are both consenting adults and I’m sure you’re happy together. It’s not really my business outside of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:56 PM
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It’s so bizarre to me, seriously. If OP is truly so confident in his relationship, then why waste time online talking about “if you hate my relationship, you’re a jaded old woman!” I mean, sure I’m a little curious about what he has in common with a 19 year old woman just like how I am about 19 year old men dating 40 year old women, but if he truly believes his relationship is innocent, there’s no use trying to validate it to the internet and demonize anyone who dares question how wholesome it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:42 PM
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I’m not yelling, I’m having a discussion. And that’s not true. The factories women worked in were not cozy or easy. Childrearing is not cozy or easy. Nursing is not cozy or easy. The difficulty of jobs is not solely defined by how much physical strength is required to complete them. Edit: women began to fight for equality in the workplace in the nineteenth century. This was far before jobs became “cozy and easy”. They started long before then, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:21 PM
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This comment was so insightful for me, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:16 PM
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But who are you to say what women want? You’re giving an argument based entirely on what you THINK women want. Women are now provided equal opportunity to go into mining/sewer jobs. No one is forcing solely men to pick up these jobs. And these jobs pay very well, as they should. Furthermore, do you do any of these jobs? If not, you don’t get to ride on the coat tails of men who do these jobs just to prove that women are “lazy” or whatever. Besides, I could say the same thing about how most healt…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:10 PM
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Holy crap this is so well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:58 PM
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But how do you know this? Unless you’re a woman actively participating in these conversations, and even then that doesn’t account for ALL women. That’s like me saying “men say a lot of the right things, until they’re with their close friends where they say they want to beat and rape all women”. There’s no sense to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:57 PM
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PREACH. I think a huge thing that’s being missed here is men aren’t encouraged to cultivate male (and female) friendships at a young age. Maybe that’s because men are told to “man up” instead of express emotions, but I think it we could cultivate a world where our sons feel like they can be vulnerable to one another, we would diminish the amount that feel like their intrinsic value comes from being able to “get a woman”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:43 PM
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I can definitely empathize with the fact that there are struggles that men have that I inherently will never experience because I am a woman. Pressure to provide financially, Secret Service (we were SO CLOSE to including women in 2016. So close.), a higher risk of being accused of sexual assault when being innocent, lack of encouragement to join mental health spaces/receive mental health help, etc etc. I could go on forever but you get the point. I will also agree that we have swung the pendulum…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:34 PM
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They’re reducing themselves to sex objects. How is that not self-induced misandry to suggest that men’s “societal duty” is to provide sperm to women, and that it’s women’s fault for not wanting to sleep with them. The world is overpopulated right now, anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 12:04 AM
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I get that, but we do have better technology for that now. I work with rape victims in the ER — if they come in a timely manner we can do DNA testing to catch the culprit. This isn’t a foolproof method because it’s unlikely to be used in marital rape, but it’s better than it was 30 years ago. I do agree that we would only benefit from a society that ensures people can’t be accused of rape unfairly. But that doesn’t make manipulation okay or right. Just because a politician does it doesn’t mean t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 11:59 PM
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Okay. Well, we have two VERY different views of sexual assault and rape then. Unfortunately, your view point hurts and invalidates men who experience sexual assault too. Emotional manipulation can be present to force a man or woman into sex. I think a perfectly valid example of sexual assault is poking holes in a condom to “baby trap” someone. I would consider that rape against a man. If a woman feels pressured to have sex with a man because he keeps begging her/bugging her for it, that is not e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 11:27 PM
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I mean, sure, but it feels like the alternative would just be forcing women to engage in unenthusiastic sex with men against their will. I’ve never gotten sex for affirming that men experience disadvantages in today’s society (conscription, body image issues, higher likelihood to be accused of rape, less likelihood to receive custody over children, etc.), but I’d rather that than have men have pity sex with me. I’m not saying that’s what you’re suggesting but I’m not sure how else to interpret i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 11:23 PM
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