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Discussionholyskillet/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:21 PM
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i am not obligated to entertain every retard, whomstdve I consider you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:55 PM
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your community whines about women "not settling" all the time, what the hell do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:47 PM
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"eh, excuse-me, You strawmanned my steelman and threw the red herring down the slippery slope into the poisoned well" So soy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:31 PM
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Don't you have a 21-year-old sexy girlfriend, while being 35 and looking like shit, you hypergamous bitch? Go settle for your looksmatch, delusional female. Or did you make all of this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:30 PM
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The same way you treat women differently depending on whether they are good-looking or not. Stop the outrage circus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:27 PM
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You think you should be treated like 10s when you are 6s on the best day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:26 PM
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you have a low IQ. Stop wasting people's time on debate subs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:20 PM
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How are so many of you ass mad about men being treated differently depending on what they look like? Delusional behavior. What, you wanted the equality of outcome for a 5 and a 10?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:18 AM
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I am not here to defend conservative men, or any men, or any pearl clutching. I think I've made my position crystal clear and everybody except for you seemed to understand perfectly what I am saying and where I am coming from. Walk around naked for all I care.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:16 AM
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Yeah it's a huge problem for everybody if it's not just verbal. I am not here to defend sexual assault. And even if it actually is just verbal. In many places catcalling is legally regarded as harassment which is punishable Which places? But this shouldn't reach them, or change your sympathy when someone harrases them. It's not going to reach them because I am not trying to shitstir. when it comes to empathy - I am not obligated to feel sorry for every single retard. Most people think like me: t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:08 AM
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Yeah, yoga pants are not the problem, because context matters. If your clothing blends in with other people's clothing, this is not provocative irrespective of specific items that you wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:50 AM
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What does this have to do with the subject matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:33 PM
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Lol. I can say with perfect utility: if someone harasses you verbally or gives you attention or catcalls, just walk away, girl. If they are not trying to touch you or hold you - which most people won't, what's the problem? Tell them "not interested" and they'll fuck off. Also, people will turn around, but OP is ass mad that someone dares to disrespect a grown woman who is incapable of selecting an outfit that matches the occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:32 PM
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girl, what at the beach and noted that no one gave a shit that women wear thongs or unlined bikinis. AT THE BEACH, you lemon. No one is outraged over yoga pants either, unless you go to your corporate job wearing yoga pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:29 PM
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I like my wife to dress in a risqué fashion specifically FOR the attention she receives. Yes, we have to be honest about the intent, and so many people like to obfuscate and pretend like they are more socially autistic then they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:03 AM
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This outfit will of course stand out if she runs to her local Walgreens or a post office. Men should not just offer women dick no matter what. It's classless. That being said, I am not going to be outraged on her behalf if some weirdo (a weirdo like her) gives her unwanted attention, because she opted out of this social contract, and not for a good reason. Nor do I think that we are entitled to the same amount of respect irrespective of our self-presentation - this is just foolish. You have to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:34 AM
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OP, what about your treatment of the rest of us? I, and many people, and many people with children, might not want to see half of some girl's ass, or her breasts, or her coochie in the broad daylight, as much as I don't want to see some guy's package, bitch tits or beer guts. If you want respect and if you want to complain about people exercising their - by the way! - freedom of speech by making inappropriate offers, respect people back by dressing so that it's clear what you are after.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:14 PM
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we are all aging quickly out of desirability, and I am not an exception. What are you even trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:48 PM
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Spit his cum out of your mouth and go read a source or two, not by Tim Pool and not by Tucker Carlsen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:49 PM
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It's a combination of being in the right place and in the right time - Putin won his jackpot when Sobchak hired him - and being a yes-man to oligarchs. If I earn your appeal by swallowing your cum every morning, then there is that, but none of it has to do with "exceptional competence" or "emotional intelligence".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:30 PM

then, everything except for this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:24 PM
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that's why I said "should be". You people either have a reading problem or yall are intentionally being obtuse
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:22 PM
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that's why I typed "should be" you lemon
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:18 PM
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"black people making racist comments against white people should be absolutely socially acceptable because white people have more power" the men who get shamed also pursue whoever they want anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:03 PM
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red-pilled man is having a normal one - he deleted his comment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:30 PM

I understand that everyone in this comment section is comfortable with the idea of having some poor person glued to them and bound by obligation to flush their life down the toiler no matter how much you guys fuck up, but... Hot take: a cheater is not necessarily in the wrong just because they committed an act of infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:57 PM
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pardon me, random cuck on the internet? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:48 PM
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Eh, excuse me, nobody's sexual desires are approved of socially. There are countless comments and posts on this sub about women treating men differently depending on how men look, as if it was some scientific discovery. Constant whorebashing, by your community too. Not to make it about women, I am just saying, you are not a unique snowflake who is being shamed out of fun experiences, it's EVERYBODY.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:45 PM
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and on the other side we see "these stupid sluts bounce on Chad's dick and don't give a chance to an average guy" and "I like me a woman below the age of 25 because their bodies are tighter". people get ass mad so in general it's just better not ask questions you don't wanna know the answer to and not volunteer any responses if someone asks these questions :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:41 PM
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success is about making money and having influence in something other that gratification of the lowest of impulses :/ The problem with OF is that anybody can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:37 PM
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i'm talking about the OG Russian oligarchs. source - 5hr interview with ex-adviser of Yeltsin and Putin, who defected Russia and got citizenship in France. The guys name is Sergei Pugachev. The interview is on Youtube and is in Russian, meaning that you probably can't take advantage of this particular source unless you happen to be fluent. But, honestly, any couple of documentaries on political and social changes during the perestroika era will be useful
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:34 PM
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thank you for entertaining this, I'll check this book out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 12:44 AM
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Interesting stuff. So where did the $100 million go, just to Putin's personal bank account or was it for his oligarch friends? How do you steal in such amounts and not get fired by the mayor? Did he physically steal a bunch of paper money? This is something along the lines of a bank clerk stealing my credit card info, why would he think he would not get caught red handed :/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:29 PM
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You got it figured out. We all hang out on this debate sub because we are too dumb to grasp the TRUF
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:59 PM
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And look where that got him Yes, that's the core of the problem! You got there! It's one of Russia's issues that a person qualified to be a random bureaucrat does something his mind is not equipped to do. Mhm, sure thing. I'm sure you have a lot to show for in comparison to him. I am not a president of Russia, you soulless troglodyte. I don't need to be as qualified as a president of Russia, but even if we were to judge people by "Do yOu HaVe A DeGrEe" - every random bitch has a degree, myself a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:58 PM
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Assistant to the mayor. Dude was basically a front desk girl making coffee for his boss. Why expect another coup from specifically KGB thugs rather than military personnel or high-ranking criminals? Did the KGB have any direct authority over anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:47 PM
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He is not one of the most influential people. The influential people are the people who appointed him - and even these people are not in their positions due to exceptional level of competency or emotional intelligence, which happens to be exactly why they are no longer influential. You don't know anything about anything. Have you studied the subject before dropping by and inserting your five cents?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:28 PM
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the charismatic and hot ones. You don't attract women JUST by being an alcoholic
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:01 PM
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you are delusional. there are a ton of 50-60 year old dilfs who look better that this mess of a person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:01 PM
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Excuse me, you lack necessary background knowledge to have this debate with me. Even the things you are saying expose you as just some random guy with an opinion, not based upon any serious foundation. You are extremely delusional if you think the hierarchy of Russian junta is based on "exceptional levels of competency" and "emotional intelligence" - the two qualities that none of the people in this government structure have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:59 PM
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Because he looks like shit, has average intelligence, and does not know anything about anything and lacks taste, which he exposes every time he talks. Who the fuck do you think KGB workers are - crazy-competent-400-IQ-assasins? These people were bureaucrats, devoid of any talent but one: making lives of others more complicated than they need to be. On top of it, even in the hierarchy of KGB, he was a shit KGB apparatchik. Fun fact, local bum Tyron has 8 baby mamas. Also, fun fact, we all speak m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:51 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:35 PM
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many of these people are born to perfectly normal households with what y'all call "a strong father figure"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:29 PM
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Eh... What were you hoping for? No, sorry, this is insane to assume that your freedom to live your life however you please constitutes an obligation on us to make sacrifices to reinforce your choice. I am open-minded about lesbian relationships but I don't want to be in one, I believe in the freedom of practicing your religion but I am not going to marry a Muslim man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:36 PM
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the word for this is "skinny fat" what the hell did you tell #1 when she called you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:23 PM
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Dude picked up a high school/early college kid, deflowered and dumped. Amazin'. Of course I care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:20 PM
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Name? I am not even sure that someone who has enough drive to become a "footballer" will be a virgin loser if he does not make it. Not to get totally blue-pilled, but there are, in fact, a lot of personality that goes into crafting a career of a professional athlete, and it can be attractive to this gorgeous model on top of wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:59 PM
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But I mean you have a right to walk by and not intervene for whatever reason, it makes sense for you to have this right because the situation might be very much not in your favor. I would not expect any of my family members to be heroes for someone else. Setting that aside, Women encounter situations in which they are sexually harassed or told they owe someone sex much more often than you'd find yourself in this scenario. You are essentially equating girls taking everyday sacrifices and changing…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:54 PM
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OP, it just depends. Sometimes it just makes sense to ignore a guy and walk away from direct confrontation then shut him down and be a bitch. If he is intelligent, advances are very often phrased in a way where he has plausible deniability, same goes for sexual harassment and inappropriate offers by the way: you can't really shut it down because nothing wrong, let alone illegal, is happening. "He is just joking". But it's also dumb to sit on a guy's lap with no intention to take things further. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:39 PM
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Not sure about celebrities, but here is a hot political take. If Putin did not get very, very lucky he'd be driving taxis now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:26 PM
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I'm trying to illustrate, that statistical norms do not apply well to individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:21 PM
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People wanting to fuck you is called being a (not even necessarily young or attractive) woman. Just because people find you sexy, it does not mean: a. they are willing to take on a commitment in relationship to you. b. that it's optima for you to accept their commitment c. that you are special. How do you call yourself red pill and make this blunder of a statement. You of all people almost should know better than fuck up like this :/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:17 PM
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just without any conversations? How did she explain it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:11 PM
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What happened the day that you got married?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:45 AM
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everything you outlined in the first paragraph could be true, and if you are super financially successful you can always find a young woman anywhere, if it sweetens the pill. It's just that your older age as a tradeoff for something that you provide, not a positive trait. Lastly, even if he did meet her in Brazil, how are her options limited if she can date other Brazilian men? That's true of all women everywhere. No reason to assume any young woman in their prime has limited options unless you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:31 AM
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In comparison with this same woman - or even any average woman - in a more stable economic environment. At what point in her life will her options be greater than they currently are? At no point. Her options will only go down. If you are a girl in a second-world country, the best time to cash out your "house" was yesterday, and the next best time is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:11 PM
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or at least not the obese ones
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:56 PM
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You can still have kids with a 30 to 40 year old woman, in fact, it's only going to become more common from this point forward
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:55 PM
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ok XD
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:53 PM
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Who are you quoting and why are you quoting these people? Yourself? Most people (yourself included) don't even know themselves enough to tell you who they'll choose and why they'll choose them, because the reality does not work out by the red-pilled textbook. People have a certain stereotype of a "woman in her 40s": overweight, naggy like their mother, outdated haircut, church Karen... Whenever we say "older woman" they have a schema that pops up in their head, and whenever we say "younger woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:09 PM
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Nope, whoever files for divorce are at fault and a demon, corrupted by too much freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:01 PM
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because every single woman around you is just as 21 and just as hot, dude, which coincidentally happens to be the reason why so many people got smart and go to places like Brazil. it's really not a hot take if you think about it for longer than 15 seconds. "Hot and in her prime" is a low IQ analysis of her situation. Even intuitively you understand that: if you own a multi-million dollar home but it's 2008 outside, you don't just get to liquidate the asset and be on top of the mountain. WelL WhY…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:00 PM
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Nothing trumps everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:30 PM
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not even women in 1924
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:45 PM
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no I mean what does one need to do to deserve a dinner date
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:30 PM
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Who you'll go for depends on an individual aunt and individual college girl. Not all college girls are hot. Not all of them are fun. Unless the whole idea of a girl being 20 is hot and fun to you by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:28 PM
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Well women are born with different inputs: some are overweight, some are beautiful, some are dumb bimbos. A naturally beautiful woman at 40 who works to preserve it can compete with an overweight 20-year-old. Most college girls are objectively not that hot, unless your only requirement is that she must be <30 (25,22...18?) years of age. I think you meant to say "older women can't compete with their own younger selves"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:26 PM
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I think men prefer younger women visually, or sexually, but it gets more complicated if we are talking about long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:15 PM
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your Brazilian girlfriend already deals with a limited dating pool
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:11 PM
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I'll tell you more. You don't even have to wash your asshole - just make enough money to pay the (young) escorts/gold diggers/women from third-world countries, boom, problem solved. Why be attractive to a young woman, if you can be not attractive to anybody and still get the young woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:09 PM
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Yes, it's super cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:54 PM
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You are attracted to 50% of women in the 20-30 age bracket, but it's already a minority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:42 PM
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Statistically, you have 1.9 arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:39 PM
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I deserve a dinner date. Do you deserve a dinner date? edit; wait actually how do you deserve a dinner date
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:08 PM
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You should be able to answer this question without pussyfooting around it, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:03 PM
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The truf. Go hang out with other virgins who agree with you, then :/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:43 PM

how many women do you think do hookups in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:41 PM

Yes, apart from all the time that it does. What are you even saying: that there are women motivated by security and women motivated by fun? suddenly disappears when it's a good looking man that's taking liberties and seeing if he can take her home You are upset that attractive men get more attention than unattractive men? holy shit I can only imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:36 PM

I am not above making this personal. Why make a debate post, if you are just repeating the same stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:23 PM

where is the source on what constitutes this ideal for women, you lemon?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:21 PM
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Why is there one community that has the general, default and true experience and the other ones we can just dismiss, Because some communities are more desirable to be in than others?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:18 PM
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no. It's not extremely rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:44 PM
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How on earth do you know so much about what these women do? Where is the source of this great knowledge OP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:44 PM
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no, not necessarily in one person. Hence, madonna-whore complex. A bunch of people can only deal with one side of feminine nature at a time. A bunch of men prefer quantity vs. quality. And average woman will not commit to a below-average guy. Who are you even talking to, nobody disputes that people date across much more so than up or down. "views you as a betabuxxer" - you are the one who views you as a betabuxxer. But even in your world, do you even have the money to be a betabuxxer? A house, r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:41 PM
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You just don't understand women. Like, at all. First, fun does not win over security for a person high in neurosis. Second, there is nothing preventing anybody from finding both qualities in one guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:31 PM
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I am saying, "dual mating strategy" is red-pilled fanfiction. Women want everything they want in one guy. The whole part with giving someone who don't give a fuck her youth is something you read on a forum - nobody is out there moving mountains for anyone who is not ready to match the energy. People will cry for a couple week max, and then they'll move on and live their lives because nobody is a special snowflake. You view marriage as a punishment for not being hot enough, and you view a relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:24 AM
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They are valid for this specific environment, they are just not something to extract a general rule of thumb from. Unless one aspires to become or remain a part of this community.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:03 AM
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Women want fun and security, but there is 0 reliable evidence that women seek out two different men to fulfill each one of these two needs as their prime strategy. The reason why there is 0 reliable evidence is because women want both of these things in one guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:00 AM
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No, my message is in a totally separate universe from bimbos chasing himbos. I'm talking about completely different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:55 AM
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and then men have the nerve to file for divorce, and the kids have to grow up in single mother households. Smh, destruction of family unit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:27 PM
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I'm saying, you are the one who is complaining, which is why I am giving you a controversial, but functional toolbox for sorting out this whole "degeneracy" pet peeve. Circling back to virginity, the fact that you are so laser focused on the "get laid" part as oppose to "only commit to low n-count women or virgins" is exhibit A for why I said what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:25 PM
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Just to sidestep this whole conversation about virgins, you guys are the hoe epidemic. If you want to get rid of degeneracy, there are very straightforward ways to do so, mentioning which will get me banned on reddit. Just a footnote.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:14 PM
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Women search for both masculine and feminine qualities in one man. OP is out there just writing fanfiction
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:05 PM
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And then committing to someone who does not see it casually, "literally".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:56 PM
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Uh, some environments are more preferable than others
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:51 PM
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wdym "i observed nation wide", and can we stop using what women say as a source
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:26 PM

if it happens, I agree it's pretty cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:08 AM
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maybe you can't. What does this experience have to do with half of humanity?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:00 AM
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If you did not notice most women send their daughters to college telling them to invest in their brain. You live in some hood or something, idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:57 AM
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Then, I guess, OF girls are the new definition of success too - money, freedom, clout.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:53 AM
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Because I am not an autistic virgin and because I am conventionally attractive, I know that. I used to be an unattractive teen tho - guys just don't talk to you. There is nothing that could be misinterpreted for friendliness in the first place. edit: you are trying really hard to pigeonhole other people's narratives into your matrix - why talk to me in the first place? just go rub dicks in communities of men who for sure for sure know what it's like to be a mid woman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:48 AM
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This is just stupid. One of the advantages of being a man is that you can work around your mediocre looks and be on top of the mating hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:42 AM
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You don't know what RP is. You don't understand RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:40 AM
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For evolutionary dead ends, I am sure it's preferable, not that anybody rushes to accommodate this preference
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:39 AM
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Excuse me, I am not even arguing with you. I am putting this forward as a fact - you are wrong. You can manifest all you want, but, no offense, this has nothing to do with the objective reality. Let me know if you need me to restate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:37 AM
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wdym bro this woman is your future, if you plan to live long enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:35 AM
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You are wrong. Not any woman gets approached, and of those that do it certainly does not happen everywhere. Especially if she lives OP's lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:14 AM
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I am so curious about organisms like you, that run purely on gratification of bimbos and himbos, do you understand that at some point you will be old, ill and outdominated by younger stronger men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:07 AM
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We see what we see, and what we see is some - not all - RP men holding virginity as the ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:59 AM
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Depends on how good-looking she is. If she is pretty, people will let her know that they are available.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:08 PM
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OP, she'll lose respect for you and cheat because you are so obsessed with your self-image and her opinion, in spite of all this manifesting about holding frame and disappointing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:48 PM
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To maintain a relationship with a woman you have to maintain a level of attraction. And to maintain a high level of attraction, you need to continue being the guy she fell in love with. in one breath you tell people how important it is to disappoint women, then you turn around and go "well actually you need to sustain the image of perfection that she fell for". you are just manifesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:46 PM
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The using someone for something part is mutual here if you did not notice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:34 PM
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depending on what you look like, this might make you more delusional than any beta-male-etc or any woman. The person who lusts after you might literally not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:32 PM
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cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:30 PM
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because some of you talk about it all the time, what do you mean "why"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:28 PM
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We can't check what it is because there is no such experiment, but because I am a good person I'm granting you that maybe about half the time a woman makes her final decision just by looking at a guy. Regarding traumatized kweens. First of all, we don't have to jump to scenarios like "she was raped in the past" because there are a lot of benign circumstances where she might be disinterested at the moment for innocuous reasons. Second of all, who fucking knows how many women become promiscuous vs…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:06 PM
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Just want to make this clear: this is your personal take on just world fallacy, the other guy is a little bit confused. Yeah, if a guy is noticeably autistic, he is unlucky and general advice on a subreddit does not apply to him. Most men are not autistic. If this shuts down the rational part of your brain, it's a little different for girls, but here is an equivalent. Most women who complain about being pumped and dumped/guys being non-committal are not ugly beyond comprehension, their problem i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:18 PM
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The dual mating hypothesis is somewhere between palmistry and horoscopes - we know that female libido fluctuates, but we have no evidence that women prefer two different men. I don't even have to disprove it, as the truthfulness of it is yet to be established in the first place. It's your job to prove it because you are the one who is making an assertion. Disprove to me that God looks like Pepe the frog, dipshit. It’s like if I said “most of the time it’s more humid before it rains and then the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:09 PM
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if he's [arbitary number of years old] and never had a relationship there must be something wrong with him well, he was, in fact, screeching just world fallacy at an implication that something must be wrong with a guy who can't get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:52 PM
1

Holy shit dude, what an original take.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:50 PM
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This is not mysterious, if you are not a virgin dipshit fuck. It's just an equation with multiple parameters, which can skew the initial decision due to factors or traits other than what you can demonstrate in a short exchange. Here. Your wife is hot, and 50 men before you wanted to date her. It was a definite yes. Then, they took her out, listened to this broad speak, and their preliminary yes to dating her degenerated into a "she is for good time only" (and then actualized). This is multi-fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:07 AM
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da fuck do you think it means to be "hot"? what do you think everybody tries to decipher on this sub, lil bro, when you have sexual attraction all figured out?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:42 AM
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maybe he can. I am just saying, this is not a bad advice in principle because it's an entry point to more complex dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:31 AM
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I don't think you understood my point. It's okay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:29 AM
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Then we have two valid anecdotes: women not thinking about sexual attraction because they are stressed, and you and your skank going at it because she finds it relaxing. None of this demonstrates that your original rule of thumb (which is "women decide in which box to place a guy in the first five seconds") is correct even half the time. If it's not stressing out, then it's something else that will make her say "no" in one instance, but "yes" in another. This is not anymore unstable than you say…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:28 AM
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I am triggered because you said something dumb, and we all are very unstable creatures. I don't know if you consider yourself a stoic warrior, willing to take dick 24/7, but most of us are not like this. I don't want to be better bro
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:35 AM

probably worse to be born the first son to inherit everything. Wait, I don't get it. Why is it worse to be the first son and inherit everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:24 AM
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Da fuck are you even saying edit: dude, you are just a retard and you said a bunch of stupid shit, which is why you are pissing yourself right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:17 AM
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Everybody is unstable. You are not saying anything right now. You'll be hangry in a couple of hours, and in three hours you'll want to sleep, and tomorrow around 1 o'clock you'll caffeine crash, and on Monday you will not get the promotion you were hoping for, and people in your radius of proximity will not get something out of you as a result of your mood. Aren't you an emotional bitch of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:08 AM
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I'm saying, you have to be capable to hold a basic friendly conversation with A woman before flirting with A woman. Not that you literally have to be friends with a specific woman before flirting with her. In general, you have to know how to do small talk before using more sophisticated styles of communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:57 AM
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why not though? it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:34 AM
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I'm not obfuscating. I'm successfully proving you wrong. I think you know you said something retarded and now we are pussyfooting around "welllll, I did not mean all the tiiiiiimee, of course there are circumstances...". Those are normal circumstances. It does not have to be a severe trauma; it can be as simple as she has a calculus test tomorrow that she is nervous about. 1. The degree of stress that she is experiencing is not allowing her to take interest in dick as such at a specific moment i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:33 AM
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the dual mating strategy “hey, if you’re a bit of a chump, get her after she’s ovulated because she’s looking for security” If she is in the wrong spot, she is not going to want to have sex with anybody. Does not matter if you are a chump, or a Chad, or a beta provider. Her hormonal background is not allowing to experience much sexual desire for anybody. Here is another example. If you try to dick down a girl who is in a state of emotional distress it does not matter if you are a Tom Cruise in h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:44 PM
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Most female sexual desire is a function of her monthly cycle much more than anything. If you catch her at the wrong time, nothing and nobody will arouse her. At all. If you catch her at the right time, she'll be much more open to flirting and sexual interactions. There will be a huge delta in how she treats the same guy depending on where her hormones are. No offense, but did you ever live with a girl or date one? Then, people have triggers for attraction that are not visual in nature. Many wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:10 PM
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you have to crawl before you can walk. If you can't sustain " friend vibes", how are you going to flirt?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:52 PM
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Question: what's so delightful about his personality? This is not me being mean, this is dry statistics: most of us are tolerable at best. Most average-looking guys are tolerable at best. What is it that the protagonist of your fanfic does on the daily basis that other people don't do? How exactly did he earn the right to be bitter?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:50 PM
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How dare are you assume that I don't have reading skills. This is just world fallacy in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:35 PM
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I'm quoting your take on the goal of the red pill community, then applying your logic to your take on the red pill community. If it's illogical to assume that a romantically unsuccessful man lacks social skills, it's illogical to assume that he has no game. Just take one step further and say that all self-improvement advice is fallacious - nobody is allowed to have any normative takes because normative takes are rooted in what you call just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:16 PM
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A red piller would argue that you can indeed improve your chances by hitting the game and improving your game. That's kinda the whole selling point of red pill. HoW dO yOU KnOw UnSuCcEsSfUl GuY HaS No GaMe. ThIs Is JuSt WoRlD fAllACy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:42 PM

Before fishing for sympathy, you have to make sense, and I think every character of your anecdote is dishonest: the escorts are dishonest, and so is the guy. I'll call bullshit on these conversations. If you just offer sex to rich older guys and want thousands of dollars in exchange, you are not going to be highly discriminatory. I bet many girls suck less-than-clean penises and tolerate weird fetishes or moods/attitudes too, it's just not glamourous to talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:20 PM

I'm saying, the people who talk most shit about "western women" are not exactly being noticed by women in the first place. So, their grievances fall on deaf ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:10 PM
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If women did care, passport bros would be drowning in pussy, come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:53 PM
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Who are these women who care about what passport bros do? The consensus is that women don't even notice their existence (which coincidentally happens to be the source of the problem) until they start talking unhinged shit on this sub or antagonize people online. It's not us who seeks out these interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:36 PM
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The women who dish out and the woman on the receiving end is not necessarily the same woman
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:30 PM
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"It does not happen because if it did that would be illegal" That, indeed, would be illegal. This also has nothing to do with women. If I make a threat to you I'll get banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:24 PM
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I call bullshit on the whole "sugar babies refuse to date me for money" thing. Lol. You need to be truly one of a kind disgusting character for a prostitute to refuse to sleep with a client for money, considering that most of her clientele is not exactly hot poolboys who meet her looks standard. Something is missing from the story because it does not stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:19 PM
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this is a male equivalent of girlboss bravado. Not only will they not reject a woman their age, they'll be on their knees if she is healthy BMI and good looking. And if she also pays her own bills, this is a cherry on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:23 PM
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Even if it's true, we are talking about the men to whom this definitely does not apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:14 PM
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I'm half slav btw. When I need a second opinion about which statements about my race - or your gender - I am and am not allowed to make, I'll get in touch with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:23 PM
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It's both.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:19 PM
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Which part of my rant confuses you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:16 PM
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oh, excuse me, who the fuck do you thing struggles in today's society? you thought it was high IQ disciplined men with goals in ambitions? Of course it's going to be people at the bottom of the distribution. Obviously. And when the society does not offer them any avenues or niches, they'll join some stupid military conflict and start fucking shit up. Obviously. None of this is controversial, y'all are just in your feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:13 PM
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I understand that some people are not there voluntarily. It's the minority of people. The majority of guys either went because of money, or volunteered because they are brainwashed. These people will defend their right to get their asschicks clapped and will call everybody who is anti draft in principle "a dumb, ungrateful bitch, who does not know what the fuck she is talking about". Can't you tell I've had these conversations. (the conscription is still mandatory. But, most men in Russia or Ukr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:11 PM
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When the war ends in Ukraine the women will clean house and the men will have nothing to show for it. I'm about to upset some people. most men - most of the ones who struggle with getting their GEDs and can't get jobs - are just stupid. It's important to move forward realizing that we are talking about the bottom of the IQ distribution here. Now, I do agree that we need to make some programs/affirmative action initiatives/extra education opportunities to get these people employed, or else they v…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 12:46 PM
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most women are not combative most of the time, what you are talking about is just neurosis and lack of emotional discipline - the very thing that you are venting about in your post. I am sorry but I have never heard a guy complain for having to support their girlfriend or date emotionally. Like ever. on this sub guys talk about it all the time in different ways, wdym. This is where "I don't want to be friends with women because she'll just use me as her emotional support simp" comes from, for ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:36 PM
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Men's emotions are just as strong as women's it depends on a man/woman, from Jordan Peterson's lobsters we know very well that women experience more unhappiness per unit of time In that case, I wish women, particularly those of a feminist bent, would stop claiming that they do more emotional labor than we do. Because people are sensitive to pressures that society applies to them and are oblivious to pressures that others experience. Women say this, because they are constantly shamed into an empa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:51 PM

I'm not fucking up by my own standards much more so than any American single mom. No offense, but chances are you are not marrying a local royalty, chances are you'll be married to some normal guy who does not have any resources to leave behind in the first place. If I was in this situation, I'd just abort the baby and not bother with raising the legacy of a guy who does not have anything to give me in exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:34 PM

I get your point, I disagree that your culture presents a much better alternative. Most people in your country are probably not doing that well economically. Most women are having children by middle class men, who don't have any assets or houses to leave behind. I can reverse the question: why get married, pop out children, forego a career or be forced into a job market for a man who does not have any resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:29 PM
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You are assuming everybody is searching for what you are searching for. It's not a one-way dynamic because there are people who seek out what you consider a character defect. We hear "I don't want to do continuous provisioning of emotional reinforcing for a girl" as often as "I don't want to be in a relationship with a masculine, combative, assertive woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:20 PM

OP, we can play this game both ways. Do you even see any inherent value in family? It sounds like you are looking at children through the prism of "this is what I need to do to get him to provide for me". But considering that most women in this whatever East Asian country you are from do not exactly live like royalty and probably continue to work, you guys are fucking up by your own standards much more so than any American single mom. Why are you having kids at all, in or outside of marriages?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:17 PM
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Because unfortunately women who are attracted to you also rely on you for stability and certainty, so their emotions are more important to them than your emotions. And it's scary to see you break down. It's true about some more than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:56 PM
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You are overthinking it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:49 PM
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The way she phrased it is just socially autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:46 PM
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No woman brings up hookups or FWB who didn’t engage in it before. That’s the signal. lol, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:43 PM
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I think OP raises a fair point: if you continuously encounter the same person, it's almost like life throws a bunch of yous at you. OP, you are kind of looking for a lot of qualities to overlap in one woman: she needs to be interesting, but also there is definitely some standards with regards to appearance, she needs to be at least a standard deviation ahead in terms of intelligence. Many men will find sex to be a good enough reason to be in a relationship with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:35 PM
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I know you're biased because you were obsessed with living in America, but most people think America is trash and don't want to live there if they have a choice. but they don't have any choice, so, there is that. When they do get a choice, it's a different story. Actually most Georgians are very negative about Georgia. I'm not ethnically Georgian (I'm Chinese) and I've actually lived in both the US and Georgia (and some other countries) so I know Georgia is a lot better then people like you and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:14 PM
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You are not a passport bro, dude, or at least not the version who people bully online. You are motivated by completely different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:03 PM
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For the people who want to move to an OECD country, the US is NOT most people's #1 choice. It's their backup option when #1 choice isn't available. I know, but it's not like an average person has an opportunity to pick whether he can go to UK or US. If a girl from your country is courted by an American the question is "you wanna go to the US or you wanna stay?" The rest of this is rant is just your subjective feelings - all Georgians have a lot of subjective feelings of patriotism with very litt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:58 PM
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reddit is not exclusive to americans ya know
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:39 PM
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These people are not passport bros, they are just foreigners with local women who prefer to live in Singapore. That's it. We are talking about different things. Not everyone who just has a preference for a certain ethnicity or culture is an oddball. Likewise, not everyone who likes Polish women is a passport bro, but a passport bro will exclusively stick to places like Poland, Romania, Ukraine, China, etc. His choices are not informed by a sexual preference, they are informed by degree of desper…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:56 PM

start giving birth to children
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:09 PM

OP does not understand the difference between equal rights and equal outcomes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:07 PM
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Because Moldova and Poland are much cheaper than the US, obviously. Lol, Singapore is not on the list of destinations for the same reason why Dubai or LA are not on the list of destinations. Average passport bro cannot afford these places.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:01 PM
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Leveraging wealth and their American passport is absolutely the motivation of most men who travel to Poland, because beautiful women in the USA are simply not accessible to these people. How can we be so delusional that we deny it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:45 PM
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I don't know if most, but many people in second/third world states want a green card. The reason why I know this is because I am not American. And I had a green card, before I got my citizenship. You are wrong. EDIT: the choices of these people are not "fuck off to Japan" or "move to the US". Their choices are "move to the US" or "stay home". When they imagine America with what you called "worst quality of life" (you've never seen how middle class lives anywhere in the world, have you?), they im…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:22 PM
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The difference is that male passport bros never target first world women who have enough economic leverage to say "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:19 PM
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you are just delusional if you think some broke guy overseas does not want to get a green card, and you are delusional if you think south asian sirens are aroused by 50 year olds from Alabama.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:05 PM
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outside debate subs. If you provoking arguments outside the space dedicated to provoking arguments, people will call you things much worse than weird
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:54 PM
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it's the MINORITY of people who populate debate subs, and even then, this MINORITY of people does not like to have debates at any random moment in time. THIS is the space where you go to take a mental dump. You DO NOT burden people with edgy takes unless you are willing to tolerate their name-calling and side-eyeing. If someone asks you for a controversial take, you DO NOT take this as an invitation to launch into geopolitical rants, you list niche pizza toppings and fuck off. EDIT: this especia…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:40 PM
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People find arguments draining.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:13 PM
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yeah, not very intelligent, are you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:05 PM
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What else should we ban because you are broke?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:30 PM
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Child support payments don't prevent you from being present in the picture. If I was shamed, I wouldn't be as likely to play a role. "I am rightfully shamed for not brushing my teeth, I am also not gonna wash my anus D:" Mmkay
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:41 AM
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the world is not interested in you and especially in - lol - your opinions, until you prove that you (with your opinions) are of value. Also, Santa does not exist. if it sweetens the red pills I'm dropping, nobody cares about baby mama either - she is a regent. A representative of the kid, because they are too small to argue on their own behalf. If baby mama leaves the child at your doorstep and takes off, you will be presumed the child's representative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:35 AM
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financial support = provisioning of material goods, or the money that can buy material goods. answer whether you think couples that can't afford kids should be allowed to have them. Yes, they should be allowed to have kids. To answer the other two questions - you are not solving the problem that you are trying to solve. Let's say I am a billionaire and I have a child out of wedlock. And you have a kid out wedlock too, except you are broke. Both of our kids are provided for by the government, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:13 AM
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Child Support existed because Abortion and Contraception didn't exist. For the last fucking time, child support is owed to the CHILD. Marriage between mommy and daddy is not always in the best interest of the kid (it depends on who the other parent is), that's why we no longer enforce it. Child support payment is always in his best interest, or, at least, it can't harm the kid. OP, you are confused. You just don't understand how irrelevant you and your feelings are (very irrelevant).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:26 AM
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No, sorry, men are far more obsessed with being a special snowflake than women, and I think that the only reason why you are adopting a more moderate stance right now is because I am not wording it in the red-pill way. But you guys talk about this yourselves on all your podcasts: there are many women who accept having to be a part of some desirable guy's harem. While a guy has almost a psychological necessity to be a #1 kween who always has a say, gets to deflower virgins, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:39 PM
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Hold up, if you believe that men and women are different, then those are fundamentally different asks. A guy can change into a more generous/socially oriented version of himself without losing his "value", and even if he loses it, he can regain it should this relationship end.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:52 PM
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how delusional do you need to be to look in the mirror and then think "I might be special"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:30 PM
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Excuse me, this is when you look in the mirror and get self-aware. Most guys who do this shit are not the right man anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:27 PM

Nope, you are the problem. I've asked one question and you word vomited three paragraphs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:08 PM

You are not opening up about your SA - you are trauma dumping and thriving on attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:57 PM

You yourself brought up your rape. You should not have an issue explaining what the fuck this situation even was.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:36 PM
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How the hell does a random friend keep raping you for years?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:10 PM
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This is like telling a fat person that they are beautiful and the world around them is discriminatory - not at all useful to anybody. You are either trying to help people or not, and none of this is helpful for Sarah in the technical sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:07 PM
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I... Why do I need this information? This is all self-deceit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:42 PM
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of course you do, you are arguing with me how attractive you are. My and other women's validation is your personalized oxygen tank.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:39 PM
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It's not even about fault or blaming, it's about prevention mechanisms. John is unethical for taking something from her and leaving, but John is not the one who will be crying in the morning - Sarah is. Your compassion only validates her stupid choices and strengthens her dependency on random people without improving her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:38 PM
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"how often does this 20 year old initiate sex with this 60 year old? does she really love him for the alpha man that he is or does she rely on him financially?" the rest of us are fascinated not with age gap relationships but with people's delusions about age gap relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:46 AM
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You are not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:02 PM
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Sarah does not only have an annoying voice, but she is also very, very, very stupid. To the point where I don't care if someone breaks her heart. It's very odd for Sarah to sleep with a stranger and put so much expectation into this encounter. You are either willing to give something up and not have a return on it or you are not, and if you are not, act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:39 PM
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Solving your issues with women by making them ready for you is... Not my problem. Idgaf if you live or die.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:20 PM
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It's not both. It's just the shitstirring part. There is nothing technically wrong with a good spectacle if you are willing to burn some bridges and derive pleasure from public freakouts, it's just not as noble or courageous of an act as people in this branch of comment section try to make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:15 PM
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Then keep fighting windmills but please don't whine about male loneliness epidemic, because you guys are giving people the template on how to get to the place that your community apparently tries to get people out of. You are confused. Being easy to provoke, being intolerant of other people's contradictory beliefs and delivering low blows is not a W, it's an L - it's objectively a defect of your character.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:03 PM
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No, you are shitstirring for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:50 PM
1

Of all the things you could do for your children you chose to bark at idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:18 PM
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I'm not saying it in a judgmental way :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:16 PM
1

lone wolf sigma grindset
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:16 PM
1

I mean, nothing prevents you from adopting the same strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:14 PM
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Bro. Chill the fuck out. Having money at 40 is not impressive - it's what you are supposed to have at 40. You barely reached to threshold for being considered a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:07 AM
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Yes, you retard, the perfect woman for you IS 19. She can't be older than 22. The second point is that she needs to be very impressed and very motivated by your 401k that you are so proud of. And the rest of her needs to revolve in a figure 8 around the two forementioned characteristics: hot, knows when to shut up, does not make you piss yourself in a debate (which is exactly what is happening to you right now). This is how we kicked this off, keep up ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:25 AM
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I don't even know what you call "keep quiet" and what you call "in-grouped", as if you are standing up against tyranny or commanding armies or shifting time horizons
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:12 AM
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You are competing with a 24 year old chick rn, just so you know. What else you gonna tell me, that you got a bigger dick than me? What's wrong with you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:00 AM
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No. But you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:53 AM
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Nope, this is not what convictions are. Convictions are the set of principles that you yourself follow. You are just generating drama for drama's sake. Not even generating it, but your see a potential spark of crazy and pour gasoline to start a fire for your amusement. None of it is an act of noble whistleblowing, and 100% of it is generated by boredom and a lack of personal project, which is precisely how the rest of us view what you call "having convictions". Call people out for bullying the v…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:46 AM
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Online. This is a cost-free exercise. When you are asking me why I don't shitstir in real life I can't help but wonder what your life even looks like
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:31 AM
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because your community kindly lectured me on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:28 AM

Let's forget her attraction for the moment and focus on the man. The guy who looks for a 19 year old virgin is one step ahead of the guy who looks for a 24-27 year old virgin, because 19 year old virgin actually exists. It's really not that rare. True, overwhelming majority of very young girls will not be happy with a large age gap. But there is no guarantee that a 24-27 year old virgin, after rejecting everybody, will suddenly settle on him either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:25 AM

Not even that. I'm just chronically above calling people out on their shit directly. Distinctly unique in this peculiar way. I don't have anything to gain by resolving what is technically your problems with girls by speaking sense into them, but there is a lot of shit that I am going to get cucked out of if I start calling out every single kween on her delusion. When you actually get married (I believe in you) and get a life outside pills of all colors, you'll start thinking like me: there is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:13 AM

Most women who vent about this stuff don't do it online, they do it in real life. And calling people out in real life is fucking awkward. It's annoying, I just can't do anything about it unless I'm totally willing to let shit burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:56 PM
0

You are allowed to have standards, and I think this woman is exactly the type of gal who meets them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:37 PM

I agree that it's unreasonable to expect a guy in his early twenties to be a provider. What's the point of disagreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:35 PM

irritated by idiocy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:59 PM

Your requirement is not "don't have promiscuous past", it's "don't have any type of sexual past by 24 while somehow considering children and family as your top priority". The traditional women who look good, who are interested in family and children have been doing exactly that - laying the groundwork. You are late to the party. These people are already engaged and fucking. I don't consider myself traditional, but I am exactly 24 and have been married for a year and a half. It's not sad, it's th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:51 PM
1

Ok, I see. I guess the control over your finances starts out as yours, but some women hijack it. Most of these programs are specifically targeted to women, not men. So this is not just for poor people. It's for poor women. One of the groups that is disproportionately likely to get government assistance is single moms. Because single moms are going to be the ones cleaning up the aftermath of unprotected sex. You can look at it as "I have to subsidize Tammy" but I look at it as "I have to pay for …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:53 PM
-6

Older well established men should not have a problem finding a 19-20 year old retard wiling to push the vacuum back and forth, you guys talk about this on your podcasts constantly in order for you to turn around and lecture me on how women prefer guys their own age. Women DO prefer guys their own age everything else being equal, but women also sometimes have to make tradeoffs if they want to get with a guy of a higher caliber, economically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:01 PM
-3

Why do you need a 24 year old virgin as oppose to a 19 year old virgin? It's rare, but because 18 through 24 is when you take your first shot at finding a life partner. What are you even saying? You are targeting the age group that has already been through the stage when people are going to look for a future spouse. They've already done that, these women are already pregnant or engaged. It's like complaining that by 27 most women can read and you can't find your 27 year-old illiterate tradwife.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:26 PM
9

"Just do it"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:52 PM
2

holy shit go get therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:51 PM
1

And I say that only 6'2" Chad with a lambo is good enough for me and then I gleefully bounce on dicks that are not attached to a person like that. Who cares about what you say in locker rooms, sugar pie? Most of it is bravado.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:36 PM
21

We can't have the world where we have freedom of choice with an outcome of a welfare state where everybody gets some. We either allow women to exercise their sexual strategies, or we don't. If we do, we sort of have to accept that many men will struggle to be attractive to women. If we start getting upset about some men being excluded, then we are not having a conversation about inclusivity - we are just pussyfooting around an uncomfortable conversation about women's free choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:31 PM
3

First of all, it's relatively rare that a man would find a woman repulsive in the first place. But if it happens- no. A man will never go out with a woman he finds repulsive, ever. A man does not even understand why he'd ever go out with a woman he finds repulsive. A man can only recommend this course of action to women who find him repulsive, because he believes that there is some obligation inherent to being a woman. But, exercise this strategy himself - excuse me, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:19 PM

By the way. The guys who recommend this to women are welcome to pair up and assblast each other, so that they "don't die alone" and give the chances they say they want to one another. As far as birth rate, who knows where science is at in 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:13 PM

Yes, for 5 years. I made about 60% of the income and major spending decisions where joint. I think we made on 2 of those choices in 5 years. The rest of the money she spent on whatever she wanted... and she was not a frugal person. She's a lot better now, but as a young woman her father just gave her a credit card and let her do whatever. I grew up very poor and so I usually put my money into investments. How does your wife get (got) to waste a part of your paycheck on her luxuries without you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 05:43 PM

All it means is that our social institutions are built primarily by men, and are based on a masculine ethos. We don't have to make it any more complicated than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 04:51 PM

If women decide that new clothes are more important to children than food, Let's roll it all the way back. Have you ever been married? The second piece here is that the majority of voters are women, and that has a massive policy impact. I think that the reality is the government works primarily to empower a female dominated bureaucracy first, then the interests of wealthy merchants, and women in general are always given something to keep them placated. Men as a group are entirely ignored. You re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 04:15 PM
5

Young, hot, low IQ, unemployed, and, dare I say, single-digit n-count because she does not give it up for free, does not care about the fact that you are short, smiles and shuts up, what do you not like? That's the dream girl you guys are simping after. The girl who will carry herself financially - don't even look at her, she embodies everything you guys say you despise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:47 PM
4

I don't think many people even in the red pilled corner of the internet seriously argue that young women should marry old men without taking his financial situation into account. Everyone knows what's up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:41 PM

When your mom makes you go buy milk and gives you five bucks, you are not the one who is controlling the money - your mother is. The women who control 80% of spending power are not buying balenciaga bags, they are just running chores on behalf of the family. You realize you are not saying anything when you are citing this stat?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:38 PM

It's of course a thing, and it's not necessarily a bad thing. The word "patriarchy" just breaks your brain so you have to be outraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:34 PM

The problem with this argument is that you yourself are a beneficiary of men's protection. Who is it that you are talking to? Is it a dear diary moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:08 AM
2

But saying that they understand something they don't understand is running defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:31 PM
5

they are the simps they complain about. The amount of obsession with 18 year olds and the amount of self-worth that is dependent on opinions of teenagers
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:03 PM
2

They don't know it, and you don't know it either by the way. If they knew it their advice would not be to "spin plates" or "hold frame" - and if you knew it, you would not be running defense for these retards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:01 PM
1

For example, the guys in the red-pilled corner of the internet who spit the truf that women don't want to admit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:23 PM
5

*specific men. How can you guys talk so much about how selective women are and then turn around and omit this important asterix?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:11 PM
10

Bro realized that all dating dynamics are reinforced by both sexes. Hm, we are making progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:09 PM
1

Other adults need to not just teach media literacy to kids, but good teaching must use examples by picking apart and criticizing said examples. Critical thinking is a skill you have to practice and develop. It’s like exercise. Then, this is no longer a critique of ballerina farm the content creator - it turns into an analysis of SAHMotherhood with upsides and downsides. For example, let's take gymnastics. When little girls watch someone do backflips, they want to become an athlete. Most professi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:07 PM
1

It's not misleading if it was never meant to lead anyone's children anywhere in the first place. I think there is some confusion with regards to what aesthetical vlogging is there for. Vloggers are not there to be a mom or a dad, to help little girls choose a path in life, and they are certainly not there to be role models - they have one job only, which is to perform for our amusement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:31 AM

You don't see it happening a lot, because people on Tinder are a minority to begin with. Most 4/10 women are going to be with 4/10 guys because 7/10 guy is dating a 7/10 girl. Most people gravitate towards relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:43 AM
1

The implication is not that she is free of criticism because she is Mormon. The implication is that it's hard to make this criticism substantive, because her Mormon lifestyle is consistent with her Mormon values, which do not seem to be too culty and dogmatic in Hannah's case. When you say everyone can critique anyone, it's true. But "can" does not mean "should". Opinions differ in value, and some are just pointless white noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:25 AM
2

This critique is not actually saying anything because you described every person who makes living off of social media
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:43 AM
1

She is one of the most unproblematic people on the internet, what's there to critique her for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:19 AM

My thoughts are... Obviously people are graded on the curve. And that's fine. Nobody owes a 4 the same type of treatment as they give a 10, and anybody who thinks otherwise is just delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:47 PM
2

Chances are you are not sitting across the table from her in the restaurant and telling her "I am not promising you anything" (because this is the part where she stands up and walks away, of course). Chances are that you are being subtle enough to keep her in your orbit but give her enough token cues that she does not have anyone to blame but herself. And chances are, the question that you are asking, is not a question but an invitation to affirm the worldview that you are trying to build, where…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:34 AM

actually, I totally concede: wealthy men are very smart and stoic warriors when it comes to selecting life partners, hence women who divorce rape them and taking the kids or just ruin their existence are the product of them secretly wanting such outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:52 PM

You are assuming that smart people are efficient across the board. No. Smart people have weak spots and negative traits just like dumb people: they can fall victim to ideology, lust after someone or have a gambling addiction. Keeping away from temptation is not a function of intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:38 PM
2

for the same reason why rejecting a man because of his appearance makes women shallow. trust me, you don't want women to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:52 PM

It only makes us as shallow as men who approach us because we look a certain way, I've never considered myself a part of the "who is a better person" contest. I am frankly not trying to be a good person when I reject someone, I just try to not do unnecessary damage to their self-esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:22 PM

Trusting me about what? Have we established any trust?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:21 PM
9

well, then don't be surprised when people search for an upside and walk away after not finding it. I don't want to do anything if the only thing that follows is consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:33 PM
5

First of all, your standards are just as shitty, the woman you are approaching just happens to meet them. That's first of all. I don't know why you are over here firing shots at people. Second of all. I don't want to tell the truth to reveal to other people who they really are in my eyes. In my head, I know who is ugly and who is not, and I'm completely comfortable with putting people in these categories. Who are you even talking to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:08 PM
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^ Exhibit A. If you have so much to say about women not telling you the truf, you are precisely the reason why the rest of men don't get to hear it either. Remember everybody, everything that people do in dating is a response to a response to a reaction, etc. There is no such thing is a gender collectively just deciding to do something for no reason other than sadistic joy. And the craziest thing is that it's not normal guys and gals who set standards that the rest of us are supposed to abide by…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:12 PM
-2

A certain % of population is nuts, and these people are exactly who sets social norms in dating/courting. politeness is super important, because we are dealing with limited upside (nothing to gain) and huge downside if the person on the other end of this exchange chooses to overreact
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:50 PM
1

All you needed is for a random chick to tell you to limit the stream of idiocies to one thing at a time?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:48 AM
1

let's not pull AKSHUALLY cards, especially if our understanding of logical fallacies is murky, okay? Let's wreck you in one department at a time. I am not writing a research paper, I am debating with a red-pill man on reddit and my phrasing is totally fine and appropriate for what we are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:41 AM
1

correlated with
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:25 AM
1

I don't know, OP, why are you over here making prescriptions to people? this shit is super loaded with assumptions and you are trying to sell it as a rule of thumb
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:09 AM
1

We are already talking, which is interesting, considering that I'm almost 25 and outpace you in terms of mental faculties (in your world). You used the word "mature", which happens to be linked to being "wise" and "reasonable", and which happens to be the goal of personal "development". I don't see how I'm putting words in your mouth, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:49 AM
1

Right and wrong. that's why I'm talking geomaxxing: a 6/10 woman with a shitty starting situation in life has many options, but what you guys always miss is - guess what? - all her options are exactly like this 4/10 guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:16 AM
1

Not even that, if you are a four you just go search for someone who is not in the position to negotiate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:47 AM
-4

I have very low tolerance for retards and I'm above civil discourse
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:28 AM
0

Again, you can probably already find someone 6/10 in a shitty situation and offer them (or fake offer) a way out. Take the very big number of girls stuck in poverty somewhere in Latin America or Philippines and divide this number by two - those are your options. Even in America you can probably geomax by going to some very poor communities, show off some generosity and have women be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:26 AM
-3

I want to talk down to you/am getting triggered because you are trying to use state intervention to solve problems that you can easily solve yourself. You don't need to enforce nation-wide mandates to ensure your skank does not have a baby by someone else, there are far less invasive means to ensure loyalty in the relationship. This is like burning down the house to cook some bacon. If he's the father, no harm no foul, it was required anyway and she doesn't spend the rest of their relationship r…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:17 AM
1

Which women six women? Just any six women? You technically already have unlimited dating options, just go after someone much more desperate than you. Don't have to be rich. Move to some shithole and date very poor women, if there is no additional requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:41 PM
-2

Why is your paternity my issue and why do you guys have so much problems with solving simple issues by basic steps? Can you not read and follow simple instructions? I don't understand. If you don't want a girl to baby trap you and be liable for child support, pull out or wear a condom. If you doubt paternity, you have a right to test it. What do you want the rest of us to do - hold your hand and state mandate something that you can do on your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:02 PM
1

Well no. Girls should not be a joke at 18. They are or at least should be and often are way more mature and need someone on their level. It's okay, I can engage in the red-pilled game of pussyfooting about. Someone on their level would be a man at least 10 years older, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:56 PM
1

where did you go? why did the red pill man piss himself and disappear?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:01 PM
1

I did quote you. How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:40 PM
1

I know, I'm superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:40 PM
1

You... Said that. You said that adult males are on the same level of development as 18 year old girls. Wait.. How old are you? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:37 PM
1

Well no. Girls should not be a joke at 18. They are or at least should be and often are way more mature and need someone on their level. This is how you admitted that adult males are retards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:31 PM
1

now we are playing the game of pussyfooting around logical conclusions of your premises, dude
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:28 PM
1

You probably look like neither, and what's your complaint? Your complaint is dumb. Show me who does not want someone who looks good and fucks good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:17 PM
2

No, that's what you think, probably because you blurted out something stupid before you realized you made an argument for matriarchy and justified all of feminism better than anyone else could Generally, the 35 year old men that I've met are a lot more reasonable and wise than I am, I don't know which retards you hang around that it takes them 35 years to reach the level of development of an english lit student or a random Taylor Swift fan, which coincidentally happens to be an accurate average …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:13 PM
6

35 year old men are equal in terms of their mental capacity to 18 year old girls? Fucking glue-eaters lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:07 AM
2

Well yeah, but it matters who is doing that. People want the Ken to do the fucking, not a Santa Claus looking sir. I understand that to you, it might not matter tho :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:05 AM
3

ty :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:04 AM
2

yes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:12 PM
4

If you are too dumb at 18 to take out thousands of dollars as student loans we should take your vote away. In fact, if you are too young and naive to make any decision (drink/smoke/get a bitch pregnant/drive), we should just take your rights one by one until you are of age to do this totally unrelated thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:33 PM
1

omfg, chill. Who specifically are you talking to and what are you trying to accomplish - the biggest hypocrites are super not going to hang out on this sub. You are selecting for a percentage of a percentage of population. So, it's honestly more of a rant then anything solution-oriented IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:27 PM
1

It's also true: a ton of men are self-aware, but are held hostage to social expectations that prevent them from adopting a more successful strategy. I get it, but this still is not a mark of pride. It's just an unfortunate circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:21 PM
1

A random chick on tiktok is not making her insecurities your problem. She does not even care whether you exist. When it comes to controlling behavior, it can quickly cross the line of reason and become violating. It's the "you are violating someone else" aspect of you spreading your insecurities around and making them someone else's issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:18 PM
5

It's okay, everybody is hypocritical. so when you say "women are hypocritical" I am not sure you understand that you are not actually saying anything of substance unless you can show that XX chromosomes make someone uniquely hypocritical
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:06 PM
1

Well, people SHOULD be insecure. Some amount of insecurity is a sign of mental health. For example, the makeup thing you mentioned. You should be insecure about your probably less-than-perfect face. Guys having the confidence to not use any makeup is not the W you think it is, it's lack of self-awareness. So when some slob shows up and prides himself on exposing his acne scars, that's how normal people see him: a self-unaware weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:02 PM
10

No, they don't suck. They are just 18. But that's okay, because your daughter is also a joke at 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:53 PM
5

Yeah, as oppose to tolerating some 40 year old guy with a couple of divorces and ton of baggage - we can play this game both ways. If you don't like the process of exploring the world you are welcome to marry an older guy and get assfucked on the daily yourself, otherwise it's hard to take this comment seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:48 PM
1

Yeah, because... women like men that are successful and confident, their old age is just the cost of getting someone successful and confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:44 PM
3

average age gap is 2.5 years - most women will not even date or marry someone 5 years older. Just saying, broadly speaking, people are correct when they say women don't like older men. Now, a woman can like a very specific older man - I find some 50 something yos attractive, but I do not like "older men" as a species.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:42 PM
3

average age gap is 2.5 years: if I wanted to date an older guy, I simply would. Your feelings are a little bit off here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:37 PM
0

holy shit, I thought I was the only one distracted by how small his face is. looks like someone grabbed the lasso tool in photoshop, selected the face and scaled it way down. which meme tho? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:40 AM
5

i think the post is addressed to people who "just really care about women" (for some reason Charlie Kirk comes to mind)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:38 AM
1

no, I am not trolling. The reason why you think I am trolling is because there is some level of entitlement that goes along with your standard :/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:35 AM
1

then... you are excluding men, some of who would want to go out with you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:58 PM
1

I'm married :D do you ask women or men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:54 PM
1

Do you ever ask people out?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:13 PM
1

Can we exclude someone morbidly obese?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:07 PM
1

Right, I did not read your post as an invitation to keep track of every single thing in the relationship. My question is more like, is there anything that we can judge people on - for example, appearance? How is excluding people based on looks any less toxic towards someone who was born with a disadvantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:49 PM
1

if nobody knows about anything, hey, it's a non-issue. Let's just not ask questions that we don't want to find out the answer to
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:34 PM
1

Is there any 100/0 that standard that is not toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:14 PM
2

what is the example of a standard that is not "toxic"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:09 PM
1

So, obviously, nobody holds out for prince Charming, because most girls have actual boyfriends. Because most women have enough sense to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:07 PM

his output is a baby mama with a fatherless kid? No offense but anyone who starts relationship coaching, especially if it goes along with a ton of antagonistic energy, better have a stellar record, or normal people will have a hard time taking this seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:58 PM
1

But right now we Are being asked to play build-a-Chad. If you were to play build-a-Stacey, you'd statistically be even more exclusionary than me with your alt/goth preference for weird haircuts
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:40 PM
1

I am not sure what you want women to do - like his lack of hair because he 1. does not have 10k to fix it 2. does not feel like he should be expected to fix it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:35 PM
1

Then he is going to do much worse than he could've, ultimately you are stepping on your own dicks by not washing your asses, not getting hair transplants, not grooming your beard, not working out. Live with a 4, who does not waste any money to be a 6. Not doing anything with your genetic disadvantages is not a flex, it's a defect. I am not sure why dudes always use what is essentially laziness and lack of financial means as a mark of pride.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:51 AM
1

"Ideal traits" - who the fuck are we supposed to be building, and most importantly, why are you over here masochistically reading responses to a question that is exclusionary by its design? And thirdly, you told someone else that you like shaved temples or some viking shit - was it you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:44 AM
1

People who spit truf at strangers are not really interested in truth. They are just shit stirring. And the reason why I know this is because people like KS dish out much more of this truth than they can take, it's always a one-way street, and not just because it's his show. I'll give the devil his due, I admire Kevin's aggressive capitalism, I more so have questions to adults who call into his show: how do you need to live 30+ years of your life in order to ask Kevin Samuels for a dating advice?…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:40 AM
1

Because most men can't afford to be selective. This is not a W, it's an L.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:17 AM
1

you would worry about the hair color if bitch has no fucking hair. Bitch put some rosemary oil on that shit, get a transplant, why are you just walking around bald yelling at people to accept you in this unacceptable state??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:13 AM
1

cute, high intelligence and something like emotional independence. I can't respect men who depend on approval of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:09 AM
2

Women always worked. Victorian women were working in coalmines, pushing the carts and doing whatever job they physically could do, soviet women worked in factories, women in medieval Europe farmed, helped men run businesses/shops, others worked in wealthy people's houses. Everybody worked because you'd piss yourself if you saw how poor everybody was. Having a woman stay at home is a luxury that XX century Americans could afford, and even then 30% of women worked outside the house before the inve…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:46 PM
2

Which cultures are you talking about and what are the core disagreements that you think you have with these people?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:28 PM
1

you can't qualify yourself with things other than physique or status for casual sex. You fundamentally misunderstand women and respectfully I have no patience for this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:23 PM
2

social justice warrior
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:55 PM
1

You think an average beta male orbiter can do anything to qualify himself to a woman if she is not attracted to him? Cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:55 PM
-3

Yeah, social autism is very very sad... It's okay that you don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:54 PM
1

I bet she understands the principle of sex being hard to get for guys in general, she does not think this principle applies to him, because she projects her sexual interest in him on every other woman. Previous commenter kind of assumed that lady is socially obtuse and is oblivious to male experience, but it's completely normal to think "a guy who I find attractive probably drowns in poon".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:46 PM

Your need for X does not constitute an obligation on my part to provide you with X.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:52 PM
-1

Did you read the post? She fucked the guy, so she does not consider him unsuccessful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:42 PM
15

that's a SJW point. "Because I don't have enough power I get to be shitty, but you ought to be responsible because people actually listen to you". Also. It's not even true, anti-woman sentiments existed forever but they are so engrained in our social life that you don't even notice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:34 PM
2

For example, this dude is frustrated with a female game of "I am trying to indicate sexual interest in you without indicating that I'm ready to sleep with you". A girl tries to keep him interested in her, but is not willing to take things in the sexual direction. The game itself is not dumb, because she is trying to filter out impatient men, but some girls just suck at playing it. They'll not be ready to sleep with a guy, but they'll invite him to their place, they'll be reluctant to set hard li…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:42 PM

Let's try this again: I am saying it does not work. It can be an enhancer on a reasonably attractive dude who already can get female attention, it's not saving grace for anybody maidenless, and it especially looks sloppy on men who are overweight or have some other very visible undesirable physical traits - which coincidentally happens to be the kind of person who is most likely to search for self-improvement advice online.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:11 PM

If you guys were honest and quit blowing smoke up each others behinds, you'd just say that some people should drop out of the race if your selling point to an attractive woman is... Tattoos? "Tattoos" specifically needs to be flagged as an advice for a guy who wants to go from 7 to 8, not as a blanket prescription of what can make any man more successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:02 PM

No one cares about your emotional detachment if they barely notice your existence in the first place. Tattoos or beard can either make you look attractive or sloppy depending on what you look like, this is not even a good blanket prescription
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 08:51 PM

Well yeah, not every genetic makeup can be drastically improved through physical exercise if nature fucked you up hard enough. Putin is probably a king of MMA and fitness, still looks like shit. Life is unfair, Santa don't exist, everybody has a ceiling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 08:46 PM
1

I'll explain. Most people are not just looking to make life needlessly difficult for the opposite sex for no reason other than their sadistic enjoyment. Smart women and smart men play them with each other, because they are easy filtering mechanisms for undesirable partners. That's what's up. If you treat games with contempt, then you are precisely the reason why the rest of us have to engage in them, and I'll just leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:58 PM
3

This is only as confusing as all social interactions/dynamics in general. I can't imagine the world where I'd be asking people on which date I should sleep with a guy - the answer depends on the context, depends on the guy, depends on where I live, who I ask, how much he likes me and what I am hoping to get. There are too many variables to give you a perfect formula. Learn to read the room, and even then, be prepared to be wrong at times. It's that OR the alternative is men/women need a mom and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:49 PM
4

You don't need to be BFFs with her or anything. We don't need to jump to extremes, it's very good idea to both maintain distance so you don't get emotionally involved with someone who did not make a romantic commitment, and yet make space for a potential connection by having them in your social orbit. All about balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:37 PM
2

Tomorrow a brick can fall on your head but you are not prescribing for every man to walk around in a helmet
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:50 PM
11

-"which divorce laws are fair?" -"paternity fraud". You do get 50/50 custody in family court unless there is a significant reason why dad should not see his kids, but the burden of proof falls on the woman. Not to say that this can't be misused by crazy women with financial means, but most women have it in their interest to get you to participate in raising the consequence of you going raw. Raising a child on your own is exhausting. Besides, overwhelming majority of people do not have the money …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:51 PM
0

cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 01:59 PM
0

What's the purpose in even responding kween
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 01:58 PM
0

probably both. Some just say shit, some had really rough experiences with men and no experience with bears
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:53 PM
1

They don't because most of them do not understand what they are talking about when they choose a bear. It's not even in insult, they just don't, so it's super hard to take it seriously when some 20 year old bimbos (no offense) are awkwardly trying to make points about male-on-female sexual violence. Let someone else do it in a more intelligent way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:35 PM
0

Yeah, this is a dumb fucking point and I have 0 patience to hear it from people who grew up in like US suburbia. You are not outrunning the bear, you are not outclimbing the bear, you are not even going to overpower the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:32 PM
0

This does not make sense at least because some men will be gentlemen and strangle you before raping, and some bears will start by eating your face or chewing on your arm. Bears are just like men, but they are way stronger, way faster, and give way less fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:54 AM
-1

like you would rather be stuck with a bear? Wait till you actually see a bear, let alone get stuck with him, and report back how bears make you feel. I guarantee you all moral dilemmas will get resolved in favor of human males i think this is "i'd rather have a dog than a wife" level of dumb shit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:43 AM
0

OP nobody actually will pick a bear, no need to be all debate-brained "you threw a red herring down the slippery slope into the poison well". The women who think it's a better idea to be stuck with a bear than a man are so goofy, but I don't think they mean what they say
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:40 AM
1

you really don't have to smash random girls to be confident in your ability to smash random girls. It does not necessarily follow. And, you become what you train yourself to be, if you act like a person who gets laid long enough it becomes the reality. It does not mean acting disrespectful, and it does not mean acting like a volatile bitch, god forbid
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:14 PM
1

I essentially sold you the blue-pilled idea of "be confident", "work on your self-presentation" and "don't be creepy", but I made it sound red-pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:06 PM
2

he has to have sex with multiple women in order to carry himself like he can obtain sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:09 AM
-2

It's okay. You are okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:55 AM
2

no one wants to work hard anymore, smh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:54 AM
1

The truf
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:53 AM
5

nope, it's the reddest of pills. I am blue-pilled because I went so far into the matrix-defying direction that I horseshoed back into the place where no one is doomed, things are improvable and should be improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:52 AM
1

The best I can do is some drunk weirdos trying to fuck me in the bar, preferably without commitment, but maybe with commitment (though reluctantly). There are men like that orbiting you too and I don't see you spinning on their dick like a disco ball OP
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:06 AM
2

You don't have to use anybody. You can just bluff and present yourself as if you have the options (that you might or might not have in real life). Without explicitly talking about other girls, because this can just come across as disrespectful and nobody wants to feel disrespected. You probably know the drill Intimacy is something both people have to work their way up to, and it's how it should be :/ I know we all want to be accepted even when we give mediocre performances, but these moments are…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:00 AM
13

Nope, the women have no idea what's up. He figured out how to crack the code and we are impressed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:23 PM
14

Unpopular take: little white lies on a date are basic hygiene. It's like brushing your teeth or washing your anus - there is no moral superiority in the kind of honesty which reveals more of your true self than people really want, especially if you couple it with bitch-made cries about how everybody is fake (very blue-pilled attitude). If your truth is that you don't get bitches and you do desperately need her approval, come back with a different truth. It will make you a little more tolerable. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:13 PM

feelz before realz smh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:07 PM
1

Yeah, I actually concede, it's def a masculine trait now that I think about it. I'd say it's related to being predatory or even result-oriented: you are so focused on a single goal that you are forced to do mental gymnastics to brush aside everything that does not conform to your frame of reference. It can be good when you are a smart person focused on the right thing, and it can be bad when you are a dumb person focused on the wrong thing. Aggression is exhibited by two types of people: bitch-m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:25 PM
3

The term you are searching for is perhaps competitive, that you already mentioned in the other bullet point. "Aggressive" is just a sloppy word choice, both by this study that you linked and by you. EDIT: status-driven, or dominant, if you will
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:04 PM
1

They are not staying single forever. Choosing to be alone is also a serious commitment that very few people will make, I'd say more serious than marriage or kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:00 PM
0

And then the movement transformed and you failed to keep up
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:34 PM
5

in the environments where aggression is rewarded. You are not beating the shit out of your colleagues if you are a masculine hedge fund bro in New York, you are fucking up your inmates if you are a in a prison or crushing their skulls if you are a monkey. But all of this is instrumental for obtaining status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:33 PM
5

I'm so grateful that mom and dad explained this to me: no matter how beautiful you are, nobody has an interest in tolerating your shit 24/7, because 1. you are not getting younger, 2. there is always a girl with a better attitude just around the corner. Now I have much fewer complaints and questions about people wanting my good traits and not wanting the bad traits that go along with it. Edit: testosterone does not make you aggressive or assumptive. This is very important for you to understand. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:43 PM
0

You don't understand TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:33 PM
1

Of course they do. Ugly women date ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:32 PM
4

*TRP is what I say it is*
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:31 PM
1

especially funny to read comments of masculine providers that are red pilled men who constantly moan about wanting feminine traditional women and how the West is circling the drain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:28 PM
-1

that's the perfect woman for you: jobless, skilless, does not have money to pay her check, difficult to fuck, wants to be courted. The women which your community calls feminists and sluts? They are unfit for relationships, don't even look at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:23 PM
4

In the red pilled world you are trying to convince someone to trade in a part of their value for a relationship with you, isn't it what you are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:18 PM
1

how many fat 4s do you actually see dating Greek gods dude
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:41 PM

Stop being an emotional bitch, and take my healthy criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:31 PM
2

when they sexualize you, they see you as a sexual object. When the objectify you, they only see you as a sexual object.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:27 PM
1

No, I'm saying, this is my argument: all of that looks like obsession with other people's lives and lack of some meaningful project in yours tbh, hence the moral lecture on the downfall of society. For example, I don't care about bitter women, and I especially don't care about depressed men. I don't have an opinion on these people. It's pretty weird that you have an opinion on them :/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:24 PM
2

These women's standards are absurd, but that's why dating apps super suck: if you are making a profile on hinge you are competing with a lot of dudes for a very small pool of women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:09 AM
1

no. You are trying to compare warm and soft. Those are different things. Testosterone makes you want to pursue status and increases your sex drive. They'll sexualize women, but this is not the same as objectifying them. And it's definitely not the same as acting upon an impulse. And genetic success is not even the greatest goal of every person, usually successful people have something other than this to sustain them. For example, your greatest genetic success will be ensured if you get married t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:54 AM
1

The bar is not in hell, it's exactly where it should be. Some individual women are aiming too high, but overall, as a class, women are doing exactly what they are designed to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:34 AM
1

Nope, women are built for sexual selection. If nobody picks you, it's because you suck even more than the men they pick. There is no other way around this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:32 AM
1

then we can put you in a matriarchy where I can take full responsibility for your moods, since you are unable to do it for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:29 AM
1

I mean, the fact that women will settle just proves my point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:28 AM
1

most men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:27 AM
1

no offense, but moral lectures about grand societal trends from some random dude are a whatever sandwich. Man, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:24 AM
6

The issue is that we don't know who we are talking to and where she lives and who is around her. there are plenty of men like what she described, so many of them. but need to put yourself in a right location: competitive university, good job, nice gym, nice area with whole foods, etc. If this girl works a $10/hr job in fast food, yeah, she can't expect this type of person to be near her enough for chemistry to happen. But that's the blue-pilled advice, in the red pilled world hygenic men with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:34 PM
5

considering that most women are coupled, the standards are not unrealistic. It's just unrealistic for you to meet them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:29 PM
14

every one of us is responsible for our own mental states. If some woman shoots for Chad and fails - this is her choice and her responsibility. If some random loser gets depressed because of that - it's also his choice and his brainchild.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:27 PM
2

social constructs go BRR
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:21 PM
2

I disagree with the premises. Looking at tradcon influencers online, the reason why they can tolerate their very masculine husbands is because they themselves are very masculine: argumentative, assertive, career-driven, take no bullshit, etc. Feminine women just want someone slightly more masculine than them, not someone so far away on the spectrum that they can't understand each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:07 PM
1

Blue-pillers are gonna call me insecure and say that I shouldn't have to change for anyone when it's just wishful thinking. I mean it depends on whether the situation repeats itself constantly from woman to woman. I don't know, I was not chilling at the table next to yours. Your alternative is to constantly sigma grind to captivate every woman who floats through space time and even then you will never impress every single woman :/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:19 PM
2

let's say you find out you don't live up to some random standard of masculinity that is very important to her, what's steps two and three?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:21 PM
2

What money? If this guy has money, why is any of this even a question
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:55 PM
2

In the blue-pill world we call giving a worse treatment to someone "everything is perfect on paper, but there is just no chemistry, and I don't know why". In the red-pilled world you guys don't believe in sparks, so your alternative is to autistically overanalyze every detail. If our character is who he thinks he is - a handsome man with his shit together - why waste so much energy on thinking about that, he can just move on to someone who is more receptive/interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:50 PM
2

I don't date women obviously and I would not know, but it sounds kinda silly that being a 10 across the board will make a woman think you are a beta. Seeing a guy like that makes me feel super insecure and inadequate, actually. Most women are not that strategic and calculating anyways, if they meet someone they want to be their boyfriend - they sleep with them. It's all emotion based.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:42 PM
4

how many attractive 20 year olds are hitting you up and what data points to you have to claim that this will magically change once you are a 35 yo version of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:10 PM
3

You can probably get a mediocre 20 year-old no problem as an average 35 yo if your standard is that the girl must be 20 and that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:05 PM
11

being both handsome + having your shit together will get women to place you in the bf category where she'll make you wait. Yes, you have to be a mess to get laid. Being handsome and put together will make women treat you like shit - this is a very typical experience for these men. Why ask us if you already have your opinion formed?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:47 PM
1

My point is, you just saw girls that you thought were good prospects, which might or might not be reflective of the reality. We don't know. We don't have any data points to claim that you are good at picking a potential wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:29 PM

Then... Why are you arguing with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:43 PM

Look, men's problems in relationships are either the result of: their wrongdoing, meaning 80% of red pill is just whiny people whining the woman's wrongdoing, meaning you guys pick wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:42 PM
1

the mate that they want, this is what everybody is missing. yall can't in one breath say most men are invisible to women and then turn around present a list of requirements co-signed by average Joe as some sort of word of Chad, because most women will go "Joe who?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:38 PM

You have no idea who these people are until you at least start living with them, or, in some cases, until put a ring on these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:35 PM
-4

what is this even supposed to mean
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 12:49 AM
3

Do you have a daughter or something I'm also asking how did yours work that you are speaking with so much conviction
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:26 PM
3

What, you were listening to your parents through your teenagehood? If no, why are you operating in could, should and would. If yes, it kinda makes you a beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:51 PM
5

This solid idea is supposed to somehow appear in her brain at 19, preferably without any unorthodox experiences with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:40 PM
9

When a 50 yo unmarried guy with no children starts lecturing 30-something year olds (with children and past marriages) on having ridiculous standards, there is something self-unaware about that. KS arguments cannot be presented by a boss babe like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:36 PM
4

The point is that TRP specifically does not want the women who think for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:28 PM
2

I'm annoyed by him because he insists that his outlook on what is and is not valuable must be interesting to the rest of us, but most women super don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:27 PM
-5

If I line up 1000 women before you and task you with choosing one as your wife, you'll probably fuck up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:05 PM
1

true. all family-oriented men have already had children and the ones who did not are weird/undesirable to her OR have other women to choose from. Tolerating attitude from a spoiled 21 year old piece of ass bimbo is one thing, but it really don't look cute if you are older. The funniest thing is if these people saw a man with this profile they'd absolutely swipe left, who wants that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 08:01 PM
10

This whole thing gives off who hurt you energy. Not to mention that this profile fails to accomplish what it's set to accomplish. The people who these girls are trying to attract super don't care that she will reject a 55 yo wannabe father, but the 55 yo will slide into her dms because this type of person, including rapey/pushy/creepy people, tend to lack in self-awareness and disregard boundaries. Why say it? if you really want to be edgy and controversial just list weird pizza toppings and que…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:43 AM
2

people don't use evo psych for better understanding of broad tendencies, it's used as an argument to rub something in people's faces. People can improve, I agree, but... That's a blue-pilled world. If your claim is that everybody can improve with a little effort, we are leaving the red-pilled territory, because in the red-pilled territory only one person can be a king.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:35 PM
2

I'm kinda losing my patience. You think societies before were ruled by Steven Hawkings of the world?? Who do you think was the king - the smartest guy in the room? First of all, we are talking about evo pilled society. Not middle of 20th century. Evo pilled society does not give a damn about you being a genius renaissance painter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:31 PM
2

That's why I said paternity fraud is natural
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:22 PM
2

Why care about optics? That's not a very red-pilled attitude if you ask me. Don't these kinds of people pride themselves on being willing to pay the cost of appearing dislikeable for the sake of intellectual consistency?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:56 PM
1

I don't care how average guy would die and who would kill him, my bigger point is that he ain't reproducing because nobody has an incentive to allow him to have a whole woman to himself. He can kill her, but someone else can just kill him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:49 PM
3

Oh! Perfect! The IQ argument! The time and place where high IQ men have the most opportunities to use their intelligence as a card and capitalize on it, is today, right now, right here in the western hemisphere. If a guy can't use intelligence to his advantage in our meritocratic complex society, what makes you people think that you would be able to capitalize on it in some other time and place?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:45 PM
2

Who knows about Chad's deeper motivations - today a guy kills his cheating wife, tomorrow someone kills him because they don't like his face and think he is bitch-made. Law of the jungle. My point is, the majority of guys in your community should just stop using evo psych as a talking point because it's not the world they'll ever succeed it, no matter how you define "succeed".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:31 PM
1

Ummm... Now, how the fuck do you know all that :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:21 PM
3

Because people outside scientific environment use descriptive statements to pussy foot around prescriptives, without having to take responsibility for obvious advice that follows a series of facts that they lay out. Questionable prescriptive is what annoys people on my side of the fence (besides refusal to take responsibility for it). To continue OP's example. There are only two reasons to tell a woman that men find women most attractive between ages of 18 and 24: 1. to rush her into making a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:20 PM
3

no, the rest of the society is bought into checking up on the dozens of women he impregnated and will punish a man who breaches status quo on Chad's behalf. Nobody wants a ton of fatherless kid running around, we all find it convenient to keep every kid attached to a man even if he is not the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 10:51 PM
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I don't believe that, or, more precisely, I don't believe that "natural" is a conversation worth having/arguments worth making.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 10:24 PM
2

of course he cares, he wants to further his genes through other man's effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 10:22 PM
5

The biggest mistake an average man can make is thinking that there is a scenario where evo psych world will work in his favor. Because it's natural to have this guy's head smashed into a pancake by Chad, who is very unhappy that our rebellious beta male is no longer providing for his kids and killed their mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:35 PM
5

Lol. IDK why people are downvoting me, that's very blue-pilled attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:26 PM
7

"you strawmanned my steelman and slid down the slippery slope into the poisoned well". How am I strawmanning your point? I am agreeing with your point. Where is the strawman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:12 PM
10

paternity fraud and 80% of men not reproducing is natural
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:05 PM
9

Because the types of people who sprinkle "uncomfortable truths" left and right dish more of those than they can take. Edit: These convos are rarely about dry evo psych facts, they very quickly deteriorate into prescriptions, or start out as prescriptions in the nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:58 PM
1

how do some of y'all live with so much internal bitchood, neurosis and paranoia about every single thing. OP, if you are dating a reasonably attractive woman - which you are not, but this is why we are doing this exercise, this "experiment" will happen all the time independent of whether you request it or not. There is always someone who can offer her a better deal. There is always someone richer and hotter than you. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:55 PM
2

this can't be real, in most gay couples I saw both parties are flamboyant
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:55 PM
1

did you not read my question
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:54 PM
2

with some trade-offs? what trade-offs are we talking
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:53 PM
9

Who is expected to bottom in gay couples? How is it first brought up?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:58 PM
1

I'm asking about the ones who stay - if they have other skills and don't like their dangerous and undesirable jobs, which feminists are preventing men from becoming marine biologists or breakdancers?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:18 PM
2

oh no please come back and date me. Will you date me?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:14 PM
5

well, your position in dating market today, without half of population needing you as a partner so they don't starve to death, is an accurate reflection of how sexually attractive you truly are. Humanity does not owe you 1950s just so you can get your participation trophy girlfriend and reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:13 AM
2

Men still occupy the vast majority of undesîrable and dangèrous jobs necessary to keep society running. Are these men capable of doing anything that can get them a desirable job?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:09 AM
2

this does not even logically follow, because how you keep your virginity is by avoiding RP men and by not being easy to manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:40 PM
3

I think the other part of the reasoning is that a woman who kept her virginity through adulthood is less likely to be sexual and exiting, not because she lacks technical skills, but because she is not that much into it in the first place OR her standards for what makes her wet are much higher than your average woman. Obviously, high standards and low sex drive is how you keep your virginity in the world where virginity does not matter anymore. I guess there are conservative women who keep it out…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:39 PM
2

Also, what I’m really trying to get at is: why is having a social circle valued so much if that person’s worst traits could easily have been influenced by whoever they were hanging with? if you have a social circle, that's one data point. And the data point is "someone is willing to tolerate his company in the medium or long term". And you could have a social circle consisting of junkies, but if you don't have friends you are just as likely, if not more, to be a junkie. I don't know if I "prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:26 PM
1

This is something that some women do ones they are over the guy and ready to leave him. Though no, not everybody is an oversharer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:17 PM
1

I meant women face pressure to remain mediocre in terms of personality or intelligence, regarding virginity and looks - of course every man wants to reach up. I don't know what "on my level" or "out of their league" means in your world. "On my level" in terms of what? To some people, a 20 year old bimbo and a 45 year old CEO are on the same level. To some people, 45 CEO and 40 y.o. female lawyer are on the same level. Also, not to trigger you, and it's completely fine in my book and all, and no …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:59 AM
1

Men and women co-evolved. There is no "men that, women this...". While men experience pressure to cultivate positive traits, women don't just "get to" be mediocre - they face pressure to remain mediocre. This means any woman who jumps above her perceived caliber will be and is penalized, especially in the context of dating market. And even RP guys talk about this all the time too on their podcast when they complain nobody wants to submit and stay home.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:19 AM
1

Personality IS important, everything is important. Looks give a headstart. The problem with personality is that A LOT of people kid themselves into thinking that they have it, and the only basis for that is... That they do not have anything else, so they resort to "personality", idk. When you watch people do open mics and most of them bomb - those are all the guys who for some reason believe they are funny
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:54 AM
1

Everyone knows bro. I don't know how people need to live their lives in order to be RP unaware. Maybe if you are a 10 and exceptionally dumb, otherwise reality kinda punches you in the face
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:45 AM
1

I don't think attractive people get more attention is a core message, nor do I think that self-improvement is a core message. For self-improvement people are better off logging off and doing anything other than watching talking heads or rubbing dicks in weird communities. The core message is something like "you've been lied to"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:42 AM
1

women desire high value men None of these statements are coined by the red-pilled community, dude. "Desirable men are desirable". No kidding. No one heard this one before 2013! The problem with red-pill is not that it's based on falsehoods, the problem is that it's based on true statements from which people jump to incorrect conclusions via bad thought processes. But that's just what i've observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:38 AM
1

As opposed to seriously engage in the conversation about women being whores and me being secretly red-pill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:17 AM
1

If this stuff was not shocking to someone, people would not have formed a community around it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:15 AM
1

i did not realize people in the red pilled corner of the internet are incapable of making original points
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:10 AM
1

What makes people uninteresting as interlocutors, is not if they make "red-pilled" or "blue-pilled" points. It's when their frame of reference starts and ends entirely in red pill/whatever pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:09 AM
1

"just to be an asshole" - well yeah, freedom of speech, god bless america bro
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:02 AM
1

you are just throwing at me random thought salad about some whores who you allegedly fucked and who you don't want to commit to and how I'm not supposed to make red-pilled points (because this falls outside of your system of coordinates), what do you want me to do? I can't lock you down to any specific topic of conversation, so I'm making a conclusion you just want to yap and ramble. For that, people go to therapy. This falls outside of my qualifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:58 AM
2

Bro I am not your therapist
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:51 AM
1

:D
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:50 AM
1

What else do you want me to say? Please, don't go. Please, commit. The sky will fall if you refuse to bear your masculine burden of committing to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:39 AM
1

I just don't find it stimulating to go back and forth on the same 2.5 talking points. I'm blue-pilled but I'm not detached from mother earth (which is flat as per my our other conversation). The stuff that you guys are making shocked pikachu faces about is just common sense to most adults. "You have to attract a woman before you get to reject her" is not novel, nor is it originated by black-red-purple-whatever pilled community.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:36 AM
1

no offense but you can't offer anything at all, I don't know why you are firing shots at people who only offer sex. Vagina is kind of a big deal, even to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:14 AM
2

I'll black pill you even more: women don't have "disdain", they are just indifferent
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:09 PM
2

I masturbate to male loneliness. All women do. The world looks at you through the blinds of your bedroom wanting to oppress you. Problems are imposed on you by powerful coalition of women and jews. There is a reptile in the oval office. The earth is flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 10:59 PM
1

I'm not interested in talking to someone whose life experience boils down to RP content
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 10:56 PM
2

Matriarchy, that's what I'm talking
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 10:40 PM
1

How did you age all the way - I don't know how old you are - through puberty and still have an attitude about: 1. pretty guys being treated differently 2. nobody stating this overtly. Right, this experience is unimaginable to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 10:31 PM
2

So, regarding women who are not celibate: a woman can enjoy sex in general and not enjoy it with a specific person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:41 AM
2

Well, but... What the hell, that's red pill, the shit you've been studying. You are not gonna get a 10 star treatment when you are a 4. Who told you rules are supposed to be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:39 AM
2

No, it's like saying: I am not going to eat fast food, I am going to only eat good meals. The woman in the scenario never claims to have "principles", just standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:35 AM
2

Your average guy might not have any choice to begin with. I am not being mean, but before not committing to a woman he needs to attract one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:34 AM
1

being attractive IS a standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:32 AM
0

you are autistic if you need people to humiliate you with their honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:31 AM
1

Do you want to fuck everybody, or?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:30 AM
0

Hey if men aren't aware of it, you are the delusional ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:29 AM
0

I don't think I intended for my comment to you to come across as rude but I apologize that it came across this way
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:04 PM
-1

This has nothing to do with you! This obviously does not apply to a 21 year old dating an 18 year old! This entire convo my comments included is aimed at an antirely different demographic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:22 PM
3

obviously it's not a 25 year old going after a 20 year old that makes people uncomfortable, but you see american feminists everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:20 PM
2

because it's not someone in your age bracket that people are questioning, obviously. This has nothing to do with you. Just take yourself out of this equation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:19 PM
0

"well yeah it's true that we post it all the time but - hi-hi ha-ha! - you are bad faith for saying that we do so and are just trying to bash us". If you find 18 year olds hotter than 28 year olds - you are the one who is weird
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:17 PM
3

If you do not have an age consideration it's different from deliberately going after women in the 18-22 year old range or something. Of course people are concerned that it starts far earlier than 18
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:15 PM
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i've noticed that the men who are most terrified with baggage are the reason why at 30 this 18 year old will have baggage
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:25 PM
1

they just so happen to think that at 18 a girl magically turns into developed woman overnight riiiiight
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:24 PM
9

you've never seen countless posts on men lecturing women how 18-20 yos are hotter than 30 yos??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:23 PM
1

he was complaining you troglodyte
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:09 PM
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his specific pet peeve is that "a woman would not treat an unattractive dude this way" So the problem of this commenter is who the woman is flirting with in the presence of her partner, not that she is flirting in the presence of her partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:09 PM
1

I am not trained as an ancient Greek philosopher :/ No, I think I got the gist: the Jordan Peterson approach where two people just sit around agreeing with one another having a civil discourse. This has similar vibes to a long game of golf.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:37 PM
1

I am not trained as a therapist :/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:18 PM
1

that's not the point. how are you finding an issue with the fact that a 2 is not getting a 10 treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:11 PM
1

?? what would be a correct way to debate you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:08 PM
2

none of this disputes or contradicts what we are talking about, and most importantly, I do not see why we are reluctant to put a percentage (or a range) on the number of women who'll have some level of attraction for a specific 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:00 PM
2

so if you as a guy is a 9, can we say 90% of women are attracted on some level?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:51 PM
8

absolutely an example of someone throwing away the pieces they do not like and only counting data they want to count, hence - speaking in absolutes about topics that are highly abstract
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:44 PM
4

If a guy is an 8, a 9 and a ten, what percentage of women are attracted to him (percentage for 8, percentage for 9, percentage for 10)?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:42 PM
4

You've never seen a woman who talks to a man without indicating attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:34 PM
9

You've never seen a woman NOT flirt with an attractive man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:21 PM
10

men are infamous when it comes to poor impulse control
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:05 PM
3

It's so insane to hear people complain about not being treated as a 10 when they are not a 10
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:02 PM
1

some elements of that are true, but why is it such a huge problem if she flirts with someone other than you and makes an effort to show herself as attractive. I love to see some guys flip-flopping between unapologetic masculinity and neurotic clinginess, some of y'all seriously require some poor woman glue herself to you 24/7 and provide your self-esteem with emotional reinforcement and only then you'll stop riding her ass and feel confident. Holy shit if I was so obsessed and paranoid I'd just …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:59 PM
1

It's a little different and complex today, but marriage imposes obligations on men that too heavy to lift for someone who is not ready to even ask a girl to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:07 PM
1

you were confronted with logic and common sense and then you bitched out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:37 PM
1

I mean, my girl did not just have an affair because she was horny, she monkey branched
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:36 PM
1

in that case, yeah, it's dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:35 PM
0

I don't care if she cares, but this is what happens when you think you are too cool for the seal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:34 PM
1

do you remember when you were praising yourself on treating women well or something yesterday, screeching that we ruined the society, but it did not take long for you to start meangirling on me and matching the energy. Just saying, if you were better you'd just walk away from this interaction, but here you are rolling around in mud
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:08 PM
3

You don't get to not commit to people, put them in fourteen year long limbos, and bitch that they are showing their true colors when they don't give you their commitment back. It's juvenile and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:06 PM
0

I was not born yesterday
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:48 PM
1

In "reality" you'd be on your knees agreeing with everything I say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:47 PM
1

"everybody who disagrees with me lacks thinking ability lmao"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:46 PM
-2

you never wifed her up. This is a part of the game when you don't fully commit to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:06 PM
0

Okay, that's shitty. I don't refuse to imagine other scenarios, I am telling you the experience of someone on the receiving end of the complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:02 PM
1

"everybody who disagrees with me is woke REEE"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:00 PM
1

funny how you are imagining yourself as a gladiator in a coliseum, but in reality you are as much of a spineless keyboard warrior as I am. Just not as good in this craft as I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:59 PM
-3

they did not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:56 PM
1

Chances are you are woker than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:55 PM
1

show me who isn't obsessed with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:55 PM
-1

yet you wrote three paragraphs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:54 PM
2

Ill play with your mom's cat
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:36 AM
7

If in your world your woman necessarily has to cheat on you, which I totally respect if it's the case, it is indeed better that you get to step out too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:36 AM
2

I am not above ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:34 AM
2

Because mine is different, mkay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:33 AM
2

What would you do, punch a hole in the wall? it's your own fault you are dragging someone who is verbally quick than you in a debate, what did you think was going to happen when you started off-topic rants. And as far as your “question” - what makes me BETTER THAN YOU is I do not gauge the opposite sex based off of what it is she can for ME. Probably because you are not attractive enough to get away with it. Dude please go niceguy elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:29 AM
9

we're cynical for pointing out that women in one-way open relationships are not sitting around ironing his shirts all day?? I like how Chad is the one with a harem, Stacy is the one stepping out, but I am the one who is cynical. Amazin'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:20 AM
2

I would not say it to your face because I don't have conversations with less than very attractive men, remember. Bro come on stop bitching out of my question
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:18 AM
2

Apparently you and your whore mother. I don't want to talk about Chad's dick, I only asked you what makes you different from degenerates like myself, and then you did not respond, or ran off once I started asking inconvenient questions
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:12 AM
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btw most of these arrangements are going to be two-side open relationships without the dude knowing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:10 AM
2

what happened, you wanted to talk about Chad's thick throbbing cock so much and won't stand tall on any one of your opinions once pushed a little. That's a very blue-pilled attitude :/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:08 AM
2

by the way, it's untrue, you are obsessed with my - and every other woman's - opinion on you and it shows. Like, a lot. Right now I'm practically deciding your bedtime.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:04 AM
1

How are you any different from the rest of us degenerates
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:59 AM
47

Women don't subconsciously crave polyamory with a small number of men - polyamory is a byproduct of women being selective and a cost associated with going for someone who can exercise options (if you can't get them to be monogamous with you). Nobody wants it because it's humiliating, but a lot of people are willing to tolerate it for money. The key word is tolerate. The other key word is for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:49 AM
1

Duh, show me who isn't. right now I'm rating the quality of this conversation as low irrespective of what you look like, because you are trying to drag me into a debate on a stupid subject. If you think you are deep af and don't rate women on their looks or some other shallow metric, this is just delusional, and none of it is interesting to me frankly because it's all cheap dunks on people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:43 AM
1

I am not above flippant metaphors
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:36 AM
2

What does it have to do with the subject of conversation? Holy shit yall are haunted by the ghost of Chad's dick more than your mother save moral lectures for someone who is interested
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:32 AM
-4

You are acting like a 14 year old girl who was told not to eat too much junk food by her parents. "Then I'll starve myself to death REE".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:59 AM
0

That we like Chad's dick? Pretty stupid to frame it like as a complaint. Show me who does not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:56 AM
-6

Sorry, I think this is bullshit and I think you know it. If I got all vulnerable to a guy and started listing all the things past boyfriends did wrong, and how this one guy I hooked up with in the second year of college treated me poorly and told the entire dorm, and then sprinkled all my daddy issues on top, most guys would think that I could have found a better audience. You don't get any credit for not being autistic and outsourcing different types of complaints and rants to the correct indiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:54 AM
0

because convo has nothing to do with Chad's dick
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:48 AM
-9

Oh no... The people who say dumb crap in drunken psychosis or some other hysterical seizure, and then they deflect and get mad at you because their words left a sour aftertaste in your mouth. "you hold my words against me" is the code phrase for "I regularly blurt out stupid shit that I can't defend so I want to have massive allowances to accommodate this habit". What else can it mean? If your woman tells you she wants to fuck your best friend, are you not going to hold this against her? Wtf, do…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:24 AM
0

You do realize you are the most bitter woman on sub with the most emotional baggage. How did you manage to make this about women fucking Chad and not you. How do we do that every single time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:13 AM
0

I don't know whether you are low IQ or pretending to be obtuse
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:11 AM
1

who the fuck even are you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:09 AM
1

I don't care, this is irrelevant to my argument
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:54 PM
0

your comment radiates who hurt you energy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:54 PM
1

I really think it's a mother to daughter type conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:53 PM
1

It's all true, and... at least someone agreed to fuck me for free. No matter which way you spin it my value is still higher than yours even after Chad. OP never said "spiteful". Maybe learn to read. That's a huge fucking difference, right. What are you 16 to pull akshuallys on people - shut the fuck up
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:51 PM
1

Western women are not spiteful, we just treat you as what you are: evolutionary dead end. This does not make us spiteful. This makes us grounded in reality and logical. Chad is hot and rich, and you are ugly and broke. And because you are ugly and broke, you don't get to determine which women are low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:58 AM
1

western women are not awful to everybody tho, I bend over backwards to please Chad. The issue is you (and OP) being bitch-made. No shit this is your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:14 AM
1

In terms of body type, maybe. The difference between you and Leo is that you are not fucking or marrying anybody, dependent or independent. What you seem not to comprehend, is before you get to call a woman unmarriageable, you need to be able to actually fuck this woman, which you are not. For now, you are discriminating against the options you do not have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 12:12 AM
1

They don't want to be married to you. There is no difference between women you fuck and you marry, because you don't fuck or marry anybody, and you don't get a vote on who is fuckable and who is marriageable, because you need to attract them first before your voice counts. But it's a you issue. I listed a couple of men who do not have a problem with women trying to be independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:46 PM
1

she just has no reason to tolerate you for food dude. Leo Di Caprio still slays, Jason Momoa does not have this issue with women wanting to be independent - it's just you who women act this way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:35 PM
1

by propaganda this guy means women got their own paycheck and no longer entertain him for food and shelter
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:34 PM
1

who hurt you energy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:32 PM

That's what I say to every random loser who complains women don't respect him, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:34 PM
24

IMO dads are obsessed with their daughters' sexuality in a very weird way, I'm not sure why you need mothers to mirror this behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:31 PM
-1

You seem to think that every woman's validation is the same in value - but women do not think this way, and we are right not to think this way. A nineteen year old bimbo from Andrew Tate's harem is not my equal, so who she fucks has approximately 0 bearing on women outside of very weird online spaces. So, it depends on who you are trying to attract and who you surround yourself with and the level of respect person A has for people in group B
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:10 PM
1

Christianity flip flops between barbaric cruelty to everybody and mercy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:48 PM
10

dude either respond normally or don't respond at all, what's the point in dropping the gif
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:48 PM
10

this behavior is only promoted in your corner of the internet. Nobody else tells anybody to be cruel to their girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:27 PM

hope you understand you are outing yourself as bottom tier genetic material, if you are opting in for the world where women give you participation trophies instead of letting reality slap you in the face
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 08:50 PM

what's there for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 08:45 PM
1

Regarding pick-mes, it's more sinister than just masochism. I'll never believe that guys who pander to women like to be treated poorly - they, in fact, are after king treatment without having what it takes to be attractive. Same way a self described man-hater might think men are dangerous around children and not hire a male baby sitter. That is true even if they know nothing about that man. I think it's true for some radfems who have been through traumatic situations, but... Radicals don't even …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:04 PM
1

So bitch-made. You can't stand tall on your red pill shit to a woman. I mean, in my defense, you started dropping f-bombs and acting like a hysterical bitch first, so maybe you should change your flair to red pill chick. I am not adopting parts of your position, once again, let's gather all your effeminate brain cells and process this statement: you are contradicting yourself. That's my point. I am not committing to either one of these positions. I don't have an opinion either than you are illog…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:18 PM
1

Chill the fuck out and quit being emotional, we are just talking. My argument is specifically against you: you cannot be both red pilled and state that it's within reason to want something similar to where you stand in metric X. people might agree with OP, but you are not one of these people, because you are applying the logic that you (probably) don't apply anywhere else when you analyze relationship dynamic or dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:22 AM
1

I don't know if the last sentence is true - a lot of mysoginists treat pickmes pretty well, because pickmes don't trigger their self-defense mechanism
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:35 PM
1

it's a pretty rare person who will fuck you up if you are nice and friendly to them. It happens, but it's rare
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:33 PM
1

but you believe this, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:32 PM
7

When radical feminists say they hate men, it's usually some specific pattern of behavior that triggers this hatred - they would not hate you personally just because you exist and breath air.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:31 PM
5

No, my point is: if women tell you your question is dumb, maybe it's because... Your question is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:00 PM
0

Oh but that's because men and women are different. I genuinely don't understand why a red pill man is over here in the comments talking about "reasonable" as if it was synonymous to "equal in the criteria X". In fact, if I am 35, and I expect to be able to attract a 35 year old man, the word that you guys like to use for that is not reasonable but "delusional". Math ain't mathing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:56 PM
2

I genuinely don't get why you are so combative, but okay, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:51 PM
2

ok
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:49 PM
2

what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:49 PM
5

For CASUAL sex. You can get dicked down too if you want, I really don't understand the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:45 PM

it's nobody's fault that you are asking dumb questions dude. It's the internet, what you want us to coddle you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:42 PM
-2

If nobody is willing to pay hundreds of dollars per session to hear it, it ain't shit anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:06 AM
6

I think the reason why they need to stop asking women for advice is because we don't know male experience enough to recommend anything of substance - I don't fucking know what average guys are supposed to be doing if they can't get matches on Tinder. In fairness, women are not obligated to give men or other women honest advice or objective feedback. It's socially awkward and nobody wants to be someone's therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:58 PM
2

Your subjective feeling that women do it more is not representative of the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:48 PM
3

why are big cities lacking young men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 04:46 PM
3

I always thought it would be vice versa: in suburbia there is a limited dating pool as most people already settled down and there is not really any hang out spots for local youth. In NYC and LA girls are infinitely more attractive than in smaller cities IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 04:44 PM
3

bro I barely know you exist I don't "want" or "not want" you to do anything. I super don't care who you listen to, my point is that I don't really want to listen to you if you are a fucking virgin (and that others should not). If I met Andrew Tate in real life, I could hypothetically have a conversation with him I guess, but you don't become Andrew Tate if you just repeat his 2.5 talking points on the loop btw it's insane to watch you guys flip flop between unapologetic masculinity "don't tell m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 03:58 PM
1

1200s go brrr. This is Jordan Peterson cope. "There are complex biological reasons -". There are complex biological reasons to everything. There are reasons for taking away most men's rights and throwing them in the coalmine, there are complex biological reasons for paternity fraud and ass cancer. What is this supposed to prove and how is this a sufficient argumentation for anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 03:48 PM
7

Contortionism. "the boundaries of masculinity are broad enough to include every mating strategy exercised by men, but the definition of feminine behavior just so happens to be narrow enough to exclude the group of people I have a problem with"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:26 AM
5

Continue the thought. If wanting casual sex makes a woman masculine, then not wanting casual sex makes these men [insert blank].
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:49 AM
2

We are playing this little game where we are attributing all self-serving things about being a human to masculinity. Show me a person who does not want a lot of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:42 PM
1

I do, I left a comment for OP to consider because I think OP is sensible, before you started dragging me like a harpy into specifically the type of debate that I said I find pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:20 PM
4

you are asking me to explain calculus to a bunch of people who failed algebra 1 AND they are smug and argumentative on top of it. $100/hour, seriously, I have a life and I have problems too. I enjoy some conversations with some experienced people here, but not every point is worth addressing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:12 PM
0

listen to flying pasta monster for all I care :/ some people just have this need to break their face
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:04 PM
14

because most people who talk about men cheating/exercising options never touched a girl's vagina in their lives, why are we over here trying to reason with men who don't have a backlog of life experiences to even participate in the conversation on ethics of polygyny. When children tell you a bunch of delusional ideas of how the society is supposed to work, do you reason with them? Most people just smirk and move on with their day
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:52 PM
3

Every ideology is based on a few semi-correct tenets.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:23 PM
11

for the same reason why kids who grew up in free countries get crazy over some utopian project. I think it's a little bit more than just dysfunction of your environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:49 PM
1

I don't know. I don't think any AI can scratch the itch, for one because you know it's AI.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:33 PM
2

A woman who has to scream about not needing anybody is... Exactly the type of person who needs someone :D Very cringe. I don't know if it's sufficient. It's effectively an experience machine thought problem: if you were offered to spend your entire life hooked to a piece of equipment that generates a simulated reality for you, would you take the deal. With AI partners, you also know that this is an AI, not a living person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:31 PM
12

I am hearing there are a lot of otherwise functional and intelligent men with girlfriends who got sucked in balls deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:25 PM

I mean she can compare you with the best she never had too. How is this post different from saying you are paranoid about not being the most desirable person to her. Bad news is you will not be the most desirable person to anybody for extended periods of time, good news is it's true about all of us, your girl included.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:12 PM
1

but romantic solitude is a symptom
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:53 PM
3

Because resorting to AI when you are unattractive to women is like drinking hot lemon water when you are dying of AIDS - it's an ineffective solution to a difficult problem. Maybe going to AI is the only thing some people can do, but parading it around is very weird and stinks of self-deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:46 PM
15

I can't tell if it's a self-dunk, or...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:41 PM
6

Genders talked shit about one another forever
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:40 PM
1

Sorry, it's a bit too late of a response. I don't think that relationships should not have elements of emotional investment. What I am trying to say is every single element that we "require" of somebody does nothing but setting us back, because people see it as tiresome to live up to someone's bar for them. When I read rants about body count, or about wanting to be #1, or about wanting women or men to prove something, I get an impression that not very many people understand deeply how little eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:36 PM
1

Why do I need all these information? This sounds so silly to anyone above the age of 20, and on top of silly, you chose to be a little condescending when you took it upon yourself to project your anxieties on half of humanity and present it to me as a valuable data point. The idea that someone will want to prove anything to you, or meet the standard that you set for them, or will compete for the honor to become this source of constant validation that you require, is utopian. I'm sorry, it's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 11:02 PM
2

You are the one who is asking for criticisms because you flaired your post "debate". I have 0 obligation to expose my identity, and I am not saying anything that would require disclosing my identity to prove the validity of my claims, because I have enough sense not to bombard you with anecdotes about my 500 exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 11:55 AM
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I don't need you to verify your assertion that these random 300 women are indeed your friends or that the earth is flat, or that reptiles are dicking around in the oval office - these to me are claims of the same magnitude. Super uninterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 11:35 AM
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what, lol? why would you care so much to impress me, what's wrong with you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 11:15 AM
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I honestly don't think you've learnt everything about anybody, and I don't think you are socially savvy - your thought process and ability to recognize nuance is of a sixteen year old edgelord. You have 300 female friends (nobody has 300 friends) and the only thing you learned about dating is that girls fuck Chad, don't fuck average guy, and this knowledge is supposed to be, what again, unique and valuable to adults on this sub? Right, we did not hear this take before, you are such a scholar
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 11:08 AM
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between Stacy and Becky who puts an effort you are choosing the one with the best tits, men are infamous for prioritizing looks and puttting everything else second. And, honestly, everybody is infamous for prioritizing looks and putting everything else second. But like I am not shaking my finger at men for treating 10s and 5s differently and giving out free shit to 10s. Why are you over here firing shots at people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:55 AM
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I think their point is that these men are still going to be swiping right on everybody and will downgrade their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:27 AM
5

this is for casual sex tho in the environment where the majority of customers are male of course women feel like they can shop around under these conditions because supply-demand
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:26 AM
1

it came down from allah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:25 AM
6

yes. one sure way to become uninteresting is to radiate the air of neurotic desperation to get someone to commit to you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:56 AM
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It's not even random conservative men, it's the same forces that dictate you need to go to college if you are from upper middle class household. Nobody sits you down and tells you "listen kiddo, you need to go to school". You just grow up knowing that you'll get university education. If you grow up in the conservative environment with religious influence, you just know that there is an expectation for you to follow the footsteps of other women from your circle and you'll be considered a failure …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:53 AM
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people who say this shit either project a ton "I can't be the only spineless simp, women probably bend over backwards to please attractive men too!", or their experience is very limited to where they saw a girl flirting with their hot friend at a party and this defined their whole life philosophy. Nobody is going to put their life at the altar of someone else's ambitions or standards, or become a fucking astronaut. Nobody wants to "tame" anybody's son or solve someone's daughter's enigmas. Peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:39 PM

"Women with jobs are masculine thots" "If I bring the check I get to cheat on you and demand complliance"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:20 PM
1

Let's say we have person A, who is only hot and confident, and person B, who is only confident. When A has a lot of self-respect, I understand that this is a product of society reinforcing certain beliefs in them, and I also understand that their strategy at least works on short distances (because people will recognize it as shallow as you said). When person B has a lot of self-respect, I don't understand who has been reinforcing this idea, and I also see that it does not work even on short dist…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 09:42 PM
2

So the problem is not some, pardon me, frat dick in her pussy five years ago that disturbs OP and makes him foam at the mouth, the problem is this big mismatch in lifestyles and amount of stimuli that each person requires per unit of time, and especially predatory attitude on her side. I am getting the impression that our character is pissed because of this underlying issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:06 PM
3

She can constantly compare you with her future Chad, or Chad at work, or Chad from nursing school, or Chad-the pool boy. A delusional girl will compare you with anybody, including the image of her father (nothing sexual), Jesus (if she happens to be religious), or her fantasy of a perfect man (that she dreamt of ever since she started her period and that no alive man can match). Lack of Chad in the past does not prevent her from treating you like a compromise between her unicorn world and realit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:28 PM
1

Yeah, but then the problem is different values. Low n-count people don't pair up based on the number itself, they pair up based on upbringing, goals, vision and other stuff. Likewise, high n-count people will end up together because they are more liberal, have more exploratory lifestyles, live in the same area and do the same things on the weekend. There are plenty of attractive, young people with low n counts though. They might be abundant, but. No offense, but for most people this crowd of att…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:15 PM
2

two things: nobody holds you at the highest value and nobody will move mountains to be with you, especially if they are desirable, and especially if they happened to be very sexually selective up until adulthood. your standards are not a hinderance to anybody but you. There is nothing more emotional and self-sabotaging than meeting a good-looking person willing to be with you and complaining that they did not make themselves ready for you or don't see you as the light in the end of the tunnel (n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:05 PM
1

If you are ugly but useful confidence will probably not look foolish on you, I thought I conceded that to another person. But if you have nothing going for you besides this baseless sense of self-respect, it just does not look cute to anybody older than 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:49 PM
2

sometimes people pretend that they changed, Yes, they do sometimes pretend to be wholesome because it's convenient, but again, in this case it's not the body count that is an issue, it's kind of an indicator of a potential incompatibility, though a bad one. You can say it's a valid reason to be skeptical and I'll actually agree, but your average person finding and issue with n-count is not skeptical of the woman's character - he does not give a fuck about woman's character. He just gets an "ick"…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:47 PM
1

But it does not matter, because when you see someone useless and confident, you act like the woman from the comic too, and fair enough - nobody cares about some random fuck being wrong and smug. Or you are useless and confident yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:27 PM
1

What you are talking about is people using n-count as a proxy for different values, in which case people are misaligned on a whole bunch of other shit. It's not the n-count itself that causes problems in this scenario, it's different perspectives. Most of the time when people talk about n-counts, they do not use them as a proxy: they are finding problems with the number itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:22 PM
1

I am saying a guy caring about the girl's n-count throws a lot of objectively good options out of his dating pool, does he have a right to do it? Yeah. Weird right, of course, but he has it. And many women too are just coping when they say they have a problem with men who ran through a lot of women. Most people are not going to have an option to just reject reformed sluts or some ex-fuckboy out of principle, and if they do, they are just hurting themselves in the end of the day. But that's my op…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:56 PM
2

Because they don't just chill and do their homeless people things, in my area they'll be walking straight into the traffic, asking people for cash and screaming at the air next to them. I don't know what the fuck they are shooting but this shit is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:40 PM
1

you are just paying more attention to people doing the minimizing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:17 PM
1

because so many people feel at heart like they are special and the world cares, the world thinks about them, is looking through the blinds of their kitchen...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:05 PM
1

You are proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:02 PM
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It's recognized as a whole-ass crime as much as it is minimized, you are just paying more attention to people doing the minimizing and disregarding every guy who is enforcing social etiquette and rules of sexual interaction, because every cop, every judge and every FBI agent is irrelevant to the thing that you are paranoid about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:01 PM
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No, it's not about being some heroic jackass or whatever, it's about these little every day choices that men and women make. Like I said, the big one that I noticed is crazy homeless people. For many men it does not even register as a big deal to walk by a few tents - I regularly see them biking/walking through what I'd consider a dangerous area. I have to drive to work even though I live in the downtown walking distance away, because I find it scary, even though I never had any experience with …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:50 PM
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Justice for what? You are giving me bits and pieces of some very specific situation that I don't know anything about
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:42 PM
1

no, I did not forget the /s, when some mouthbreathers talk shit on their podcasts, there is a bunch of male content creators willing to slap them around. One thing I hate is when some girl starts acting unreasonable, because if you tell her to shut it - you are going to be the one bearing reputational costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:33 PM
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Well this just does not follow at all considering that most gender relations problems are not really about fault or accountability, they are about differences in temperament and perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:27 PM
0

men will put themselves in dangerous situations much more, and the only way how this can be explained is that men genuinely have a higher tolerance for threat and physical violence
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:26 PM
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This does not hold true once they start feeling like they are in danger, but this threshold does seem to be high enough in many men to where they don't feel threatened if they step into a conflict. Men are really, really good at holding other men accountable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:59 PM
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I think in terms of psychology and analysis, n-counts are just horoscopes for boys (and girls). Most of the time any attempts at justifying preferences and icks related to body count are full of holes and assumptions, and the only coherent arguments are put forward by people who essentially just tell you "I want what I want, and I am not obligated to explain myself". Which is true, but in this case it's unclear what exactly they are trying to obtain by creating this extra layer of selectivity an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:55 PM
-1

Average man does not feel as much danger from some other (probably, average) man. When I walk by homeless people, I am scared even if they don't do anything, but men don't seem to read it as threatening irrespective of the physique. But relying on men stepping in to de-escalate is kind of short-sighted, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:33 PM
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Aand, this is the hill that I'd actually fight for: confidence of itself is not valuable. Confidence is a proxy for value. I do buy that many women take this marker and mistake it for the thing that they are actually searching for, but I disagree that confidence is their end goal. If you are wrong AND on top of it you are stubborn and assertive in how you execute your incorrect strategies, you become much more of a hinderance to everybody than if you had some self-doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:11 PM
0

eh maybe? I'm not that invested in this take to be honest. I think the thing is they have something other than just confidence. "Just confidence" looks foolish on somebody who can't back it up with anything of value. But, I could be wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:52 PM
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confidence on an ugly guy is called lack of self awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:15 PM
1

I just see you in every thread
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:08 PM

you told me that I am mad or salty just because I criticized your take in the "debate" flaired post, but here you are being emotional and unhinged. "LeFtOvErS" - chill the fuck out, we are just talking
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:03 PM
1

I mean, you are clearly the one who is pissed off, I don't know why you have to pretend it's me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 01:50 PM
2

You are the one revenge tripping, I am just telling you what other people's side of story looks like. You can take it, or you can keep being emotional and cry that you are special or something
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:08 AM
2

Yes, OP, you are just another hole, not a special snowflake. No one cares I promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:01 AM
1

OP if sex was crap for you, it was probably crap for her, if you walk on her, all is going to happen is she'll shrug and move on to someone else. You read too much hentai or something. None of us are main characters and nobody cares enough to move mountains and really be invested in us. Your bitches' story is probably that you acted like a princess and they genuinely lost interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:44 PM
2

Who would give men backlash for wanking off in front of the mirror?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:39 PM
1

Yes, says me and every other woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:20 PM
1

Average woman is not hot. Average woman is an overweight 40 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:38 AM

Why use safeguards if you can give men wonderful and working dating advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:28 AM

I don't care, you can have it your way. Then it makes me even more right: I hold all the cards, so all this talk about not paying for food and expecting sex is just cope and horseshit. If you don't pay for her food, the tallest, hottest dude will, because men are disposable to us. You arguing against your own post right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:23 AM

No, I have no idea about the price of gas or nice clothes, I levitate around naked. All bitches levitate around naked. Yeah, nobody cares about your time or the cost of toothpaste in a local dollar tree - that's the kind of stuff that everybody already expects everybody to do. Brushing your teeth and washing your anus does not guarantee sex, it just makes you a little more tolerable than the true version of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:20 AM
1

your attention alone is not enough for anybody, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:12 AM

Oi, this ain't call of duty lobby. I also don't understand WTF your "investment" in her is if you're splitting checks. You aren't even logically consistent. Answer her criticism and stand tall on your bullshit, what the hell are you wasting our valuable time with this "debate" post for
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:57 AM

Bitch you be manifesting. OP, just because you stare in the mirror enough and tell yourself that your time is valuable, and someone should want to have sex with you, and you should not pick up the check, none of it becomes the reality. It's like, yeah... But people don't value your time, or don't want to have sex with you, especially if your numero uno step is to not invest a single dime, which they WILL expect you to do if you want anything out of them None of this is interesting or substantive…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:50 AM
1

The first step is to remember that your time is as valuable as anyone else's, even if you don't have much to offer in the dating market. Your time is only as valuable as people decide it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:40 AM
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The average woman will not have her time, for one because your time and sexual appetite are finite and beautiful women are abundant, and secondly when you say young men get bored - you are humble bragging. You are not as bored of the idea of fucking a hot woman over and over as you claim you are. You are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:23 AM
2

The issue is how he wants to get there: not by having the things others would want, but to mentally handicap women around him into the state where they start giving out sex to everybody and their dog. If we were talking financial situations, my dream world is where I succeed in the capitalist society, my mind does not go to a socialist utopia where I get handouts. This guy deliberately wants to continue being an evolutionary dead end but to have everybody act like he is genghis khan.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:36 PM
1

Women lusting after average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:28 PM
3

It's not the assumption I am making, if all women start offering themselves to average men which ones do you think he will fuck through
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:27 PM
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He said "average man". This is especially delusional if we factor in the fact that many women who this guy wants to lust after "average man" are not average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:25 AM
2

Demand for sex is greater than supply, so guys who don't have anything to offer will always try to find another way in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:24 AM
1

do you see it happening in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:23 AM
6

yeah, this one, we can both agree, is kind of stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:19 AM
0

oh, I see. It's a very strange thing to want to change considering that the men who bend over backwards to please women are not the men who get their way - women put them in the discard pile as soon as they figure out this guy has no backbone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:16 AM
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Yeah, if your dream is not for you to look better, but for people act like you don't look like shit, you are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:10 AM
1

Men will not stop simping because of supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:05 AM
3

You have reproductive rights when the baby is inside your ballsack, what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:03 AM
1

Well attractiveness will solve the problem in the first place: people will not act like judgmental dicks scrutinizing every element of their existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:12 AM
2

I don't know what it is but the ones who complain about not getting laid the most don't look good. You never see a good-looking guy with 0 female attention. But occasionally you'll see a 5 who'll pull mad poon because he exceeds in some other metric... Who knows. I don't think very far into it, I leave it to countless podcasts that they watch to investigate nuances.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 11:08 PM
2

She probably is in love with someone else. What does it have to do with blue-pill? You realize that in the red-pilled marriage the woman will despise the guy even faster?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:22 PM
3

Yes, it's their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:17 PM
1

Oh, hold on, sorry, this is not me being mad at somebody. I am putting this forward as a fact - these people are hypocrites. Where you go with this knowledge is up to you, but they are what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:08 PM
1

Oh, hold on, sorry, this is not me being mad at somebody. I am putting this forward as a fact - these people are hypocrites. Where you go with this knowledge is up to you, but they are what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:08 PM
1

Not just someone, but a person who is stronger than you. What's going to happen is they'll push you away - and this is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:16 AM
0

ok, I understand now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:37 PM
1

I don't disregard it. I don't need anybody to sit me down and explain who does and who does not want to have sex, because this is obvious to me in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:37 PM
0

It's very hard for me to imagine asking someone who enthusiastically goes through the motions of foreplay if they truly want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:29 PM
-1

Can high or very drunk men get an erection?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:27 PM
0

This is statutory rape in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:26 PM
1

Would he be like drunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:02 PM
0

I don't think it's okay to abuse a lion, I am asking how the fuck is it possible to abuse a lion in the first place and yall are screaming in my face like a bunch of unhinged feminists. I could not force anybody into sex even if I wanted to
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:01 PM
1

If you are coercing someone, it's pointless to ask for consent, because in your mind their consent is already irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:59 PM
-1

But what does it even look like - drugging him and forcefully riding the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:57 PM
-6

how is it possible to sexually victimize or rape someone who can kill you with one punch unless you drug them and tie them up?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:30 PM
-6

Let's not be so open-minded that our brain falls out. In 99% of the cases man is the pursuer of sex, it would be autistic and weird if we started asking them if they really want the thing they are trying to get us to do. Secondly, a man is stronger than a woman, so if they really don't want sexual interaction it's a non-issue to stand up for themselves in the first place. The very problem that leads to conversation about consent is absent. We can pretend that issue of agreement to have sex is oh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:23 PM
1

I am not interested in looping on the same shit all over again
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:20 PM
1

Lock/key analogy has nothing to do with the supply of locks or keys, it has to do with their function.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:15 PM
-1

No, it super depends on how this information is conveyed and whether there is a dissonance between words and actions
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:11 PM
2

OP, they watch porn about fucking stepmoms and sisters, but in real life most of them will be repulsed by this turn of events.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:59 PM
-3

It depends on how she told him, we weren't flies on the wall listening to these conversations. If a girl giggles like an idiot or whines a little bit, it might give him an impression that everything she is saying is just her mood swings and should be discarded as generic complaining. For her words to get through there needs to be a degree of insistence and preparation to have a fight, and her actions need to support her words: you can't keep allowing him to get his way after these chats. Ideally…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:56 PM
6

Yes because stimulating your snatch and seeing you enjoy it raises their self-esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:51 PM
4

Explain to your boyfriend that you are glad that he is having a good time, and you want to have a good time too, and tell him what exactly you wanted touched, sucked and fucked and in which order, and stop providing him with positive reinforcement for his selfishness. His behavior is pretty out of the ordinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:51 PM
1

Sure. Free country.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:32 PM
1

They do care, and it's just as unsubstantiated and emotional as men caring about it. Body count is somewhere between horoscopes and palmistry in terms of people analysis. If you are not trying to game anybody and the only reason they don't want to date you is because of the body count, but otherwise you two are aligned, that's stupid and whoever is doing the rejecting is objectively shooting themselves in the foot due to weird principles. If it ended in a friendship, it ended well in this situat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:58 PM
1

But what are you gaining besides this subjective sense of pride?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:18 PM
1

If the only problem she had with you is your body count gave her a quote-unquote ick, I don't know why we are jumping to "she is not for me" or "I am not for her". I don't see why you can't just say "I had two girlfriends in the past" so that she does not have an ick instead of dumping your hookup list on someone's daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:43 PM
0

Not to be mean, but here is some actual red pills. The guys who are laughing the most are precisely the guys who commit to obese or overweight fours with attitude issues. Did you see average American and his wife? It's insane to me that these people feel morally justified to have any opinions on anybody's sexual behavior. Like I said, you can, in theory, in the world where Lana Rhoades or some OF girl is interested in you, reject her because random not-millionaire and not-playboy Jeremiah has a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:19 PM
1

No, I'll press you on this jordan peterson shit. The Ann Frank situation is precisely where your life philosophy is tested though, and if it does not work in this circumstance, that's one data point that we've established. What evidence do you have than it works in the context of dating as intended?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:52 PM
1

No, hold up, do you see my flair? Nobody is justified in crucifying people or imposing their mode of existence on others whether they are promiscuous or not, stopped or not. And nobody is justified in littering but requesting that the city around them is clean. We can throw both of these out the door because my brain is not smooth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:17 PM
1

you can't control every single person, even if you live by this rule you might end up in the situation where gestapo knocks on the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:42 PM
1

Now with that said, I do think that many guys have a limit to that Sure?... Though it's hard to say how many will actually turn down Lana Rhoades. We can't sit here and say with a straight face that most men struggle to attract women today and that men will turn down a woman who otherwise meets their criteria, because of her OF in the same paragraph, and if we do - then it's just self-inflicted misery that nobody else cares about
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:31 AM
1

Shorter than what? Who's the point of comparison - the non-existent nothings that were not born in the first place? You are getting blocked because you are a certified retard and I have no patience for how much dumb shit you say per unit of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:20 AM
2

And you want to take participation trophies from women and award them to men. You are acting like a woman. You and feminists are the same people to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:18 AM
2

We can question the sincerity of both people, but it does not matter, there are two substantial differences: women in this scenario don't typically require that their partner is low n-count women in this scenario will typically stop engaging in the behavior before searching for something else. My argument is simple: if you complain about your city being dirty but you litter - you are a retard and a hypocrite. You are jumping through hoops trying to eat your cake and eat it too - nope, there is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:17 AM
2

This statement implies the following series of events: the first person chooses to act (engage in casual sex). They meet second person. The second person has preference for a non-promisuous partner. If this is the situation, I don't have any issue with this sequence of events because the second person is not helping the first person translate decision into action. An individual non-promiscuous man is not, of course, to blame for the decision of a promiscuous woman to be promiscuous. What I have …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:17 PM
1

You owe it to the child. Their liking is not the point either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:59 PM
2

I am not following. What are you trying to prove?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:11 PM
2

One person's actions influence whether the other person is able to meet the first person's preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:57 PM
1

the male collective would not exist if she did not reproduce, because you need roughly 2 kids out of every woman for civilization to survive in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:51 PM
1

A woman who is mating with a man who is tall is making her offsprings taller than they could have been in the scenario where she mates with short men. The height of the offspring is not a (mom+dad)/2, it's not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:44 PM
3

again this is false. women taking advantage of a mans resources actively creates men with less resources Yes, that's part of the reason why it's not okay to use tinder for free food, I guess, if you are going to be the one complaining same goes for all women who work , cause they are taking away positions that men could do, so they are lowering mens salaries by lowering collective salaries. Women don't want the men to who we give participation prizes because they are unable to thrive in the cond…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:40 PM
2

No, not to promiscuous women - every person has an obligation to themselves to not be a hypocrite, and every person is treated as if they have this obligation. Promiscuous men generate the duty of care once they express the desire to be with the opposite of what they are creating, and once they reject this duty of care - they become a hypocrite. And you can say "I don't care if I am a hypocrite", but then my question is what are you doing on the debate sub in the first place, because every attem…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:30 PM
2

As much as we can blame the men capitalizing on access to women, which in my world is 0 because neither men nor women owe a duty of care to incels in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:22 PM
2

By fucking them You need to prove that promiscuous behaviours in women wouldn’t exist without these men at all. Who would they be promiscuous with? female desires is predicated on male behaviours female behaviors are predicated on male behaviors and vice versa Both women and men hold 50% of the promiscuity stock, this is the only logical conclusion to make, and everything else is just dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:15 PM
1

short women reproducing with tall men creates short men. The whole point of short women reproducing with tall men which fall under "alpha fucks" category even under the red-pill paradigm, is so that they can get genetically superior children. In your world, the humanity would eventually get short like the bus you are probably riding right now :) Sorry. I don't know whether you are being sarcastic or not, but this is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:11 PM
2

and despite what you are trying to do, women can't blame men for it either. I never said that women should blame men for their promiscuity, I said that men should blame themselves for female promiscuity if they are the ones expressing the preference for women to be less promiscuous :D Holy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:04 PM
2

Both things are true simultaneously: are women making themselves promiscuous? Yes. Are men making women promiscuous? Yes. You can't have promiscuity without two genders participating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:57 PM
2

Make a counterargument using full sentences. I don't understand what the answers to these two questions are supposed prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:51 PM
2

Yes, they do. What the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:43 PM
1

But nobody cares about what you or your woman care about, you both are irrelevant. Stop using the personal pronoun. You had your say when you put a baby in her domain. From this point on, a woman does not owe you an abortion and the state does not owe you some standard of care for your feelingz.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:42 PM
5

He used poor woman wanting a wealthy man as an analogy for promiscuous man wanting a non-promiscuous woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:19 PM
1

Promiscuous men necessarily co-participate in making promiscuous women promiscuous, and women's participation in this does not disprove any of my arguments and does not support any of your analogies. Because women are not the ones expressing the preference for women to be more sexually conservative - you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:18 PM
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Duh, we all know that, but this person speaks on behalf of a man who has both high body count & the opposite standard for a woman. He signed up to be his lawyer when he started providing apologetic analogies, so now he is getting demolished :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:09 PM
1

No, that's not what I said. Again, your analogy only stands if this woman actively makes men shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:05 PM
-4

What if gestapo knocks on your door and you have ann frank in the basement
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:03 PM
5

I only said that your initial set of justifications does not stand and is illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:55 PM
-1

Radical solution: women need to shut up about their adventures and guys need to fake their resume a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:47 PM
0

It does not matter for our argument, don't pollute the conversation. It's okay, I'll explain again: your analogy is invalid. You are comparing somebody who prefers someone better in metric X, to somebody who prefers somebody better in metric X while making people worse in metric X.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:45 PM
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On behalf of remaining 45%, you don't get to say "this is my preference" and have everybody else respect it on the debate sub or accommodate it in real life, man or woman. The preference of a Jeffrey Dahmer is to drug you and fuck you in the ass, but this is unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:39 PM
2

You are picking and choosing whatever analogy benefits your story: I may as well use the clean ear/dirty q-tip analogy and slap "men and women are different" next to bullshit of my choice, and this statement will be no worse in terms of facts and logic than your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:33 PM
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This argument only stands if a woman goes around making men bankrupt and then claims she wants a rich guy. The problem with men wanting a low n-count woman while being high count is not that they are high count, it's that they make women high-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:30 PM
4

People be manifesting but in reality they'll accept a woman with a promiscuous past even without all her partners being unattractive. All of this talk about n-count is just bravado and a desire to be more selective than you can afford to be
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:26 PM
3

Feelz before realz, OP, right? Child support is not there to make you feel good or bad, or morally justified, or reimbursed - child support is there for one purpose only: to support the child that you've created.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:18 PM
4

You can say that agencies are not catching enough bad mothers, but if we use your logic, the courts are not beating enough money out of deadbeat fathers either: everybody is fucking up. You can't squeeze the sense of responsibility out of people who don't give a fuck. Who are you going to hold accountable and what are you suggesting: there is only so many children that the foster care system can take.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:14 PM
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What are you suggesting - that men have an option to force a woman through an abortion? If that's not your suggestion, then I'll repeat what others have said: child support is not there to make either parent feel good. It's there for the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:05 PM
2

"your extrimism is nonsense, my extrimism is not extremist, it's based, moderate, wholesome and grounded in reality" Yeah, these things about younger women and athleticism are not where red pill stops, you guys are going to places that are so much worse than where you could go... Saying that red pillers are "just stating that younger women are hotter" is the same as pretending that feminism starts and stops at equality of opportunity between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:25 PM

yes, all of them are dating the women they say you should avoid - every single one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:17 PM
4

Then quit whining
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:25 AM
15

Then date dudes. Lubricate your asshole and go stroke egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:11 AM
1

I am not watching a jack shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:10 AM
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OP, are you yourself willing to dedicate every hour of your life to taking care of a child, without having even a thousand dollars to your name in the end of this journey? It's really a yes or no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:08 AM
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It's relatively new. The previous generation grew up in homes where dad does not deal with mom's, or anyone's emotions: dad fucks off to his mancave and watches TV because at 5 o'clock his contribution to the family unit stops.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:00 AM
1

why are you so emotional. tell me what upset you in my comment so much that you decided to get personal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 11:38 PM
1

no, but to be fair, if we took an average across the board older guy, he would be closer to a bum under the bridge than to Henry Cavil, on every metric. Not to say it's reasonable to be paranoid about older men, I am saying your example is just as much intellectually dishonest as this girl's response is hyperbolic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 11:10 PM
0

You are not in a better shape than you were at 29, you are in a "good shape for your age". And, congrats, but I bet the things that eventually made you successful at 39 were visible at 25. I don't think people change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:43 PM
2

Wishful thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:39 PM
0

woman stuck in some marriage with a 100 IQ moron and some shitty kids with no career is hardly a good alternative. If you are trying to market me this existence, so far the marketing campaign and horror stories of husbands who don't want non-related babies are not working. Who cares? Find a new husband with kids and be a stepmom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:38 PM
1

I disagree. A man with some money in his thirties can barely compete with his broke 20s version. A man with a lot more money than average person can compete with his broke 20s version. But you don't get from 0 to "a lot of money" by slow and consistent progress, you only get to the place that you are expected to get and it's nothing remarkable - it's what adults do. When I think of older men, I already take it for granted that they are able to afford a reasonable lifestyle, have a decent amount …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:32 PM
1

someone is huuurt :D
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:27 PM
7

You are wrong, because meeting your preference is not the best way to get you hooked. The best way is the variable reward schedule. This stuff is researched up, down, backwards, and forwards, and it's constantly implemented by people whose entire business models rest on your vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:24 AM
1

that's why we all are obsessed with making money - it objectively solves a lot of life's problems
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:19 AM
10

When people say stuff like this, it's usually some very specific sort of older guy that they are paranoid about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:16 AM
8

You picking out a random outlier does not contradict the overall trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:13 AM
3

40-45 yo men are the target market for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:08 AM
8

if you get off of heroine for a couple of months and shoot that shit again it's gonna hit different rather than if you do it every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:06 AM
1

We all are grinding, the grinding is just there to keep up with effects of aging and inflation. Grinding is not changing your life trajectory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:05 AM
7

honestly if you are the type of guy who makes a bet that he'll somehow be successful in his 30s after not being successful in his 20s - you are coping hard, and you'll most likely continue being where you are now, you'll just get older. There is no reason to assume that a stock will take off if it's been going sideways for the last 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:03 AM
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it's not uncommon anymore, and it's going to become more and more normal from this point on with all the technology. Y'all need to update your mental maps and keep up a little more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:59 AM
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Oh, yeah, none of it is about building a family or love. OP is searching for someone who has problems and I have 0 issues helping him find it. Some people just need to break their face
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:51 AM
14

It works like magic on men, I am not sure why you think you are a special snowflake.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:49 AM
48

The most effective strategy is alternating between being distant and lovebombing. Play stupid games win stupid prizes tho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:15 PM
2

Who is trying to trap you? Bro most of yall are lucky if anybody wants to trap you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:06 PM

even if we don't make a distinction between necessities and luxuries, if I refuse to give up technology the only possible conclusion is that I don't care enough about slavery to give up technology. In my eyes, me wanting technology supercedes someone's poor work environment, clearly. And in your eyes, your desire for casual sex supercedes whatever moral positions you say you have. In the core, it's still my desire for cheap technology and your sexual desire that are driving forces for slavery an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:34 PM

You seriously think that internal conflict is somehow a symptom of female irrationality. That's interesting news for a guy who wants a traditional woman, but parties with promiscuous girls all the time. That's also interesting news for anybody who wants to make money but does not want to work. It's just a dumb evidence that does not prove anything. Whereas men typically need to talk less Bro you won't shut up. How are you talking about accurate perception of the reality if you don't even have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:22 PM
1

It does in your eyes. I asked you a question: So what's your point: that you are not doing anything wrong reducing women to sex, or that you don't care if you are doing something wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:53 AM
2

So what's your point: that you are not doing anything wrong reducing women to sex, or that you don't care if you are doing something wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:31 AM
3

it's a very interesting response, considering that you are the one hitting up women :/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:30 AM
3

Then be prepared to be told to fuck off in a very rude way, and you don't have a moral leg to complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:08 AM
2

The woman you are approaching is not complicit in you viewing her as a sexual object until she gives you a reason to think otherwise, and a car mechanic usually tells you that he is a car mechanic. You don't approach random coomers asking them if they are fucking mechanics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:07 AM
1

You seriously don't feel the difference between something that both of us can experience, and something that only I can experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:31 PM
-3

No, it's not a cop out, you haven't married anybody yet, let's start with this fact and end with this fact and not bring in any subjective emotions. Yes, it does, because you are not the decision maker on what constitutes red-pilled content. If others associate an individual with the movement, your personal disagreement on some talking points is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:56 PM
0

I do, because my look at the community is scientific, and yours is partisan and emotional, which is coincidentally why you'd already know how having a period feels :) Sorry, couldn't help myself. But most importantly, none of the corners of the internet where you hang out is a secret knowledge, it's pretty much mainstream at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:52 PM
-4

As my people say, "to give a promise to marry is not the same as to marry." But even then, you as an individual are irrelevant: let's look at the spokespeople of the movement and we will get an accurate cross-section of what average follower of your movement (who never touched a girl's vagina before) wants to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:47 PM
-1

That's a convenient excuse for all whiny bitches and hypocrites: "I don't want something to be done, but once it's done, I'll take advantage of it". This way you get to a. take advantage of something, b. still somehow remain in the right and pretend to be better than everyone else engaged in this something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:39 PM
0

Classic rp soyout: "this is not what the redpill says! Only I decide what the redpill says!!". No, you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:35 PM
-1

It's the same thing. Brace yourself for a high IQ point. If you call yourself a socialist but buy soy latte from Starbucks, you are as complicit in the poor working conditions or lack of unions for baristas as the executive branch. Your convictions are tested when they become expensive to you personally, and if you are not willing to trade in luxuries to contribute to the cause that you say you believe in - respectfully, you are just an uninteresting and irrelevant whiner, who is by no means rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:34 PM
1

You are the ultimate feminine woman and a slave of the matrix, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:21 PM
-3

Let's start with redpill men do not want to commit their life or raise a family with anybody. How do I know it? Because they are not committing their lives or starting families with anybody. Or nobody wants to do it with them. It's one or the other, brotha.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:18 PM

It's like you people are unable to have a sophisticated grasp of big pictures. Your point loses significance when it comes to dry facts of the bigger picture, where, as I repeat, the average age gap is 2 years. This is the big trend - women choose men who are same age or a little bit older, but not too much older. Overwhelmingly. Sorry. You are operating on assumptions, emotions and wishful thinking right now. I am grounded in statistic. I seriously do not know what else to tell you - you'll age…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:15 PM

Women prefer men who are same age, or slightly (<4 years) older than them. Average age gap is 2 years. You are coping hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:25 PM
1

Bro I don't care who you've dated it's like you are incapable of engaging on the level more sophisticated than anecdotal experience. A 39 year old "girl" is called a "woman"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:38 AM
1

I agree. Sugar babies are not prostitutes because they genuinely crave sex with older men to feel confident and try out new things, they just happen to take a lot of money for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:30 AM
1

why are you trying to prove this to me so hard and flexing your anecdotal experience? I told you my opinion, data (average age gap is 2 years or something) backs it up. It's like your self-respect is staked on being attractive to 20 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:27 AM
1

And the fact that some men want a therapy session and cuddles after sex makes sugar babies very different from prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:10 AM
1

Most girls in Miami who date men in their 40s are not struggling through helping this man get his career off the ground, or being a supportive partner cooking him chicken soup when he is sick. Also, some girls just see a guy and want him, they aren’t thinking well he’s not the optimal age for a guy so I guess I won’t be attracted. I never said that women as "not the optimal age", I am saying you objectively look worse to them than a guy in a 27-35 age range. I haven't even started bringing up th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:07 AM
1

You did not finish your sentence, but I got the gist. Women who have sugar daddies are not prostitutes, and I am ignorant and rigid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:51 AM
1

You are really invested in this conversation. Firstly, you are limiting options to two older men, secondly you are neither Ironman nor Captain America, and not even one of the actors who played them. You are just some guy in Miami, who was attractive to more women seven years ago, and who has a shelf life like all of us. What do you want me to do, tell you that at 44 you'll pull as many 23-year old girls as a successful 30 year old? And I'll be in your shoes too one day, but got forbid I try to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:49 AM
1

Every woman who has a sugar daddy is a prostitute. I am telling you how things are, and you are choosing to keep pushing me for a different answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:31 AM
1

you are overthinking it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:29 AM
3

You know it when you see it: lashes, nails, fake tan, tattoos in bad taste, extra weight, loudness and inability to shut the fuck up. It's not even about body count or lack of it, it's how you present yourself to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:07 AM
2

We don't. It's you guys who don't take no for an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:59 PM
6

looks cheap, bad manners, vulgar
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:54 PM
1

I explained to you how most women are, and you keep arguing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:47 PM
1

some do. And those who do prefer older men - honestly, it's like a guy in the 30-35 range when she is 20. It's still a young guy, he is just older from her point of view. Men will peak around 30-33, women will peak at 23-25, nobody is at their sexual prime past this point. To argue otherwise is just dishonest and delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:39 PM
1

Those are prostitutes and their clients. These women are not having sex with these men for free. We can pretty much end the argument at that. Most of you are not celebrities. Celebrities of both genders are hot. Young boys having a crush on Jenn Aniston is not a good evidence for "men are attracted to older women". You are saying some dumb shit for a 24 yo. Men are "obsessed" with this topic because most dudes in highschool can remember women swooning over a senior outright dating him or, dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:31 PM
2

I think we can all agree that "a few grades higher" is not considered "dating an older guy". What is it, 3 year difference? This is not what anyone cares about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:28 PM

Oh, but like, if they consent, this is not rape. They are just too delusional to consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:21 PM

I know this part of the dialog tree. their argument is me taking money is a one-sided transaction, while women get something out of sex too, but that's not true either: you only get something out of sex if you want to have the sex. Nobody uses "sex is universally valued no matter who you have it with" as an argument for why gay dudes should be able to fuck them in the ass. Pardon my language. Then they'll say "oh no, it's only universally valuable if we restrict it to gender you are attracted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 06:37 PM

No-no, I am willing to take their financial resource without giving them my reproductive time, of course. Aren't I a woman with healthy standards unlike those delusional men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:40 PM

yes, but the post is not about you specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:35 PM

their weak argument is that they are willing to consume sexual resource from much more women than top 5%. It's like, no shit, I'm willing to take money from 100% of men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:25 PM
1

There was a post yesterday where guys shared how women throw themselves at their physically attractive friends and how effortless it is for them to fuck girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:54 PM

yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:56 PM
0

"all men who seek casual sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:55 PM

good. Can we also add the membership fee. I think people are tired of being lectured about what to do with their attractiveness by people who don't have the attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:47 PM
9

Hot take... It's true about all men who seek casual sex, the average guy is just not hot enough for people to tolerate his shit so he has to parade his orientation towards commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:39 PM
2

You have to come into dating with long-term being your goal, if you go on dates with different people - that's fine, but there has to be and endgoal in mind for something stable to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:28 PM

I want a separate sub for attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:24 PM

I don't know, I'm not obsessed with feminists or G20 and don't listen to things they say. France is irrelevant to my situation. It's irrelevant to your situation too because feminists in America don't hold much political power to enforce their views. Look at who represents your justice system, look at who makes your laws: it's ladies with big hair and guys who believe in God and can't tell two cells apart from a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:17 PM
3

I do want to debate, that's why I keep replying, I'm just not as passionate about this particular topic because I'm not obsessed with either younger women or older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:01 PM

I don't know, and you don't know, yet you are the one introducing a niche subject of French legal norms into the conversation and polluting the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:55 PM

Why compare at all if the other scenario does not apply to you in principle? You are looking for things to get mad about IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:42 PM
2

some young women want to date some older men, it's honestly a whatever sandwich. I do think it's weird and short-sighted among other things to step into serious relationships with a 20 yo, but that's my take. Have you noticed how you are the one who cares about my opinion and drags me into this debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:39 PM

For the same reason why I don't want to pay for anybody's abortion or birth control. Why do I have to pay for your inability to settle baby mama drama on your own? Adult enough to have sex = adult enough to finance the aftermath of your decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:33 PM

How are you different from white upper middle class college girls in America complaining about Taliban?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:30 PM
10

You guys really, really try to impose yourselves and you are obsessed with young women. Writing endless posts about evil older women trying to keep the younger women away from you, the wishful thinking like in this post, the not comparing your fantasy with the actual brutal results (which state that most people will have an insignificant age gap), inventing some attraction that girls allegedly experience. Look in the mirror objectively, look at your lives: who is attracted to that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:19 PM
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Because young women are not nearly as infatuated with "older men", or, honestly, any men as you want to believe? If we lived in the world where younger women chase older men your reasoning would be true. But we live in the world where older men impose themselves on young women and complain about real or fictional feminists giving them weird looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:40 PM
31

Andrew Tate followers, or guys obsessed with OF girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:36 PM
-1

Snaky nice guys are worse than bullies and narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:12 PM
1

No, because of her nosejob and lip fillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:10 PM
2

what's "win" in this context? I am not a native speaker I can't tell if it's a typo or not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:44 AM
1

If you can tell it's plastic surgery, it cheapens your look. The plastic surgery that does not, is the one that you cannot see.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:58 AM
1

I do not. Because I agree. Water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:55 AM
2

I suspect your real goal is to gain enjoyment from making women angry and combative. It would be strange if women in their 20s were eager to settle down. I don't see what the problem is. The problem is that Chad wants a woman in her 20s and she does not want to start a family?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:31 AM
4

"Men adapt to women's needs therefore women are the problem" Non-sequitur, this does not follow at all. Depending on who you are the problem could be men, because they are the ones choosing to adapt to women's needs. Now, I suspect the problem is 50/50...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:25 AM
1

Yes, if factually untrue - he will have legal and moral ground to sue these women. See, you did your homework and are asking intelligent questions now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:11 AM
11

what an original, what a controversial take...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:01 AM
1

too much plastic surgery, huge lashes, lip filler?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:56 AM
1

I did not ask whether this makes her one. What makes a woman look cheap?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:47 AM
1

I'll help. What do you think makes a woman look like a cheap thot (god bless your mother)?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:36 AM
1

Fake lashes and botched nose job? Hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:27 AM
3

I am jelaous of a woman pregnant with fresh's baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 11:20 PM
1

But that's the issue: I think women made it pretty clear that we would not want to be evaluated just on the basis of looking a certain way and making babies. Who wants that? This is partially why women are not lining up to give birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:38 PM
2

We do, by you bully us for having too many degrees and making too much money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:35 PM

You gain advantages if I peg you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:16 PM
2

I am not sure what you mean by this comment. If you can't tell this girl is on the hustly-escorty end of the spectrum from the moment you see her face, this is your own lack of common sense and insight into women, and people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:16 PM
1

how come?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:34 PM
1

Hence my comment - I get to put fingers in your butt, I get to do some dick and ball torture and satisfy my sadistic impulse in other creative ways, and you don't have any grounds to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:20 PM
2

How do you know what he says then? She is a sex worker for purposes of this conversation because she looks like one, talks like one and behaves like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:19 PM
1

Because every girl appreciates Johnny Depp
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:15 PM
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Marriage.... why do I care if her family is wealthy? You don't care if the family is wealthy, but you specifically want someone poor as fuck, so you do care and just have the opposite preference unless somebody gives you dowry in the world where you are already a trillionaire? Her money still matters for you. These red-pilled clowns can't write two paragraphs without tripping over their own belief system. Not to mention that you don't need to be a trillionaire to get with a girl like that. You j…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:59 AM
1

You can't be sexually exploited, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:49 AM
3

If his life theory is correct, why is he broke and why is his life outcome a pregnant sex worker and legal trouble?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:28 AM
1

That's the spirit. And that's why I wanna hear nothing when I sit on your face OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:00 AM
4

Do you know what the word "cucked" means? I think you don't know what it means. And are you intentionally missing the part where Walter will still be held financially responsible?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:50 AM
4

Why are male strangers asking you this? wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:37 PM
1

But this is why you need propaganda - because otherwise (and even with it) women are acutely aware of their age and appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:27 PM
1

I actually do believe this all be fabricated, but your reason for believing this is because your daddy Myron told you so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:55 PM
1

What's going to happen is Walter will pay child support without a relationship with his kid - someone else will get all the perks of parenting while our boy is stuck with all the downsides. What's good about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:51 PM
2

Both parties were playing a game. Her game was, "I want money", his game was "I want to nut in this pussy raw". Because Walter is unintelligent and Daisy is a little bit smarter, he lost. He is not innocent, just dumb. All of it is just a fuck around and find out situation to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:44 PM
2

Things like fulfillment. Being married for 40 years is not an accomplishment, as it can be reached through laziness, indecisiveness and inertia
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:39 PM
1

bro discovered the halo effect
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:34 PM
2

You think you are the first person ever telling us that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:32 PM
10

You don't understand female reality well enough. Being single is a better option for a woman than god forbid getting pregnant by someone she does not want to be her mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:30 PM
2

Whatever makes them likeable/unlikeable as a person makes them attractive or unattractive. One thing I dislike in men is inability to take responsibility for their own behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:58 PM
4

How can I change your mind if you don't care about anecdotal experience? Drop you a study?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:54 PM
1

What about all the people who got fired from twitter after Elon took over? The folks who were remote during covid and collected their checks?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:53 PM
1

You never saw people who dodge their responsibilities and stay in their role?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:26 PM
0

Because there are levels to natural learning ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:14 PM
-4

Stay-at-home parent is a harder job because you can't bullshit your way through. If you don't make dinner and don't clean and don't parent, then your family is falling apart. You'll be surprised how many smart and lazy people get their degree in STEM, slide past the filter into some corporation and contribute absolutely nothing or very little while playing social 4d chess. They are not becoming vice presidents, but they do get good money. Just saying, if your goal is survival, once you are hired…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:49 AM
1

I like these movies. Chill out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:51 AM

What do you mean by "cancelled" and how does "cancellation" of Andrew Tate violate Andrew Tate's freedom of speech?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:59 PM

This... Is still libel if you really want to get into the weeds. Yes, others said that, and you are still committing a wrongdoing by repeating and spreading false information if I am experiencing negative consequences as a result of you running your mouth. But none of this even applies in this case. I briefly looked over an article that you linked, and I did not see anything pointing towards the fact that women lied. If they did - that's a whole another story, but if the guy really fucked and gh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:40 PM

And by the way, your complaint is so invalid, that here is some other food for thought. this delusion that you are entitled to clean reputation when you are doing something wrong is absurd. If you go around kicking puppies and are worried that if your employer finds out you'll have problems, the obvious answer is - don't kick puppies, or at least the burden is on you to do so without anyone finding out. Obviously. Realizing this is called being an accountable adult - something that you cry women…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:35 PM

Freedom of speech does not mean you can say whatever you want about whoever you want. knew that Libel was illegal ~50 years before the Constitution was even drafted. huh, I did not know that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:15 PM

How about this: freedom of speech means exactly that, until you hit one of its limitations, and the plaintiff in this lawsuit has the burden of proof. Defamation would not be the right vector of attack. It's not defamation if it's true. You can't just dick around and cry defamation when word about your misadventures spreads. Welcome to casual sex, people - yeah, someone can actually start talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:05 PM

This is a false statement, so I have a pretty good chance of winning this lawsuit. If it was a true statement - this would just be a freedom of speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:57 PM

True. "pretty", "ugly", "good", "evil", is not a false statement about facts, it's just an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:01 PM
6

yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:56 PM
3

I am not right-wing. I am not American. The limitations on freedom of speech that you are talking about are not found in your constitution, they are most likely a state law. Bro just thinks constitution defines everything in America beginning with rules of punctuation and ending with law of gravity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:40 PM
0

So are you pissed off that women use reputational attacks or are you pissed off that men don't get to? Also, wtf, that's freedom of speech. Do you not like freedom of speech?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:55 PM
1

comments like this are not only classless, but also pointless. Before not committing to someone you first have to attract this person and then you need to convince them that your commitment is valuable, otherwise... Who are you saying this to and what are you saying this for
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:30 PM
0

Man B any day
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:28 PM
-3

Make your own movie, smh - Joker, or Fight Club, or whatever. Why are women supposed to wipe asses of grown men and talk about your issues too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:58 PM
4

You: - Shouldn't be judged for creeping on 20 year olds while taking yourself as an adult Also you: - Calling women out on not dealing well with societal pushbacks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:54 PM
1

It's easier to get a relationship, but the penalty is heavier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:47 PM
-1

Classic whataboutism. Are you saying both are dumb, both are valid, or are you wrapping yourself in a pretzel to show that one is dumb and the other one is valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:42 PM
1

Women have standards, being submissive is not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:11 PM
1

No. What the fuck? Nobody wants this. Women call men them creeps if they start bending over backwards and niceguying their way through interactions with her. Have some spine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:25 PM
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Yeah, women can just spend hours at a time watching TV. There's no such thing as husband coming home and being hungry and tired or children. By the way, you'll be surprised how many people underperform at their tech jobs for six figures at organizations like Boeing, Amazon, Nasa, especially in remote jobs, and the entire incentive structure is there to keep it this way for a long time. Even if you are not a useless person, you do not work all the time in a 9 to 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:21 PM
6

Yes, unlike you, I realize that I've said stupid shit. Have you ever done housework and raised children?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:16 PM
1

Measuring the quality of a woman by how easily she caters to your whims.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:14 PM
3

I am not being funny, but you are on the same sub as I am. You are an older jaded woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:21 AM
-1

Because you are baiting people. You are standing on a public square like a town schizo punching the air, giving out fuck yous to fictional women. I did not come around and ask "What do you Johny think of western women and what can we learn from Chinese women to make ourselves ready for you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:17 AM
12

Hanging out by the water cooler all day is called "breadwinning"? We can play this game both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:02 AM
1

That's why people look at you funny. Freedom for you - freedom for all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:59 AM
9

You do your job from 9 to 5, but the woman has to parent and run household 24/7, and some of this time you are actively adding chores by not cleaning up after yourself. You are creating difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:55 AM
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Bro, you do realize that nobody in the West is going to notice that you fucked off to Ethiopia. Some people are so self-obsessed, they think the world is watching them, looking through the blinds of their bedroom to check whether Johny is buying airplane tickets... When you start acting unhinged towards women online - people might respond, when you post rants about wanting to move to third world country of your choice to fuck - I don't know, I personally think it's weird. But you don't have to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:47 AM
14

I am not a jaded older woman. Now you actually have to respond to people's criticisms
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:37 AM
4

Look, I am not saying he is searching for a good slave. But you listed all proxies for a good slave. Not to mention that foreign women are not more submissive. There is not such a thing as a person who will submit to you - they'll only fake it in exchange for something for some period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:34 AM
0

Mostly people who can't have sex. Religious people don't have an internal conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:09 PM
1

That's why I am making this distinction between men who jack theirs up and men who would like to jack theirs up but can't
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:08 PM
8

"That's cute and all, but why would I have sex with you rather than someone else now that we aren't dating?" - thinks your ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:44 PM
10

Correction: men would like to jack theirs up while simultaneously shaming women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:41 PM
24

How do you get 30 emails - emails! - a day asking you for coochie unless you give out your business card to random men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:39 PM
1

as the op post says, the claim is that folks ought be making the determinations of what they want based on a whole human rather than fragmented parts. Ok, I get your claim now. I don't even agree that this is happening. Who are these people that you are describing? Older men and their prostitutes have always existed and are not the majority of couples today. The only place where excessive pickiness around dumb shit would be true is dating apps. There, a lot of men search for casual arrangements …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 12:42 PM
1

No, none of that makes sense, all of it makes it sound like you are too concerned with your self-image to admit that you are sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:21 AM
5

No, none of that makes sense to me. Today people put their sense of individuality above all else, and they are supposed to put what above all else? Usually, the answer is either some biblical sci-fi or a social utopia of OP's choice, sprinkled with "family unit", "children" and other propaganda. Don't you even try to engage the rest of us in your passion project of a perfect pre-pill society. ​ The most obvious and somewhat boring one being financial independence, each individual is supposed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:15 AM
1

Got it, you hate your role but it does not make you sad to perform it. (?)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:06 AM
1

dang, I'm sorry. That's pretty blue-pilled and sad
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:15 AM
1

Okay :D
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 11:40 PM
1

You would never swap positions with her, because you like your role.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 11:38 PM
1

You might as well chop off her legs - isn't it fun when someone else pushes the wheelchair and you don't have to walk?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 10:45 PM
1

Also, even if everything goes as planned - you leave behind enough assets and money for her, you'll never get chronically ill, she will not be scammed out of the will and will not mismanage it, you will not get anybody else pregnant and will not lose your income, yall's children will not get in some kind of trouble - you do realize for many people these are very big ifs and when they happen so many women get screwed when it's finally necessary to become an adult and they've never practiced it be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 10:43 PM
1

I am not asking you to empathize
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 10:15 PM
2

And you are planning to be immortal like Putin and loyal like Hachiko? If so, you are delusional like your woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:05 PM
7

How does enabling a person to act like a child lead to a life on easy mode in the first place? It's so mindfucky and the penalty accrues the longer you offset it. I'm working with a girl like that, she was launched into the real world from the environment where everybody took care of her, and boy did she land face first. What a cruel thing to do to somebody, but so many men will argue this makes them good people till they're blue in the face, because, hey, they get to look good and they get to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:50 PM
5

OP, take it easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:20 PM
24

The men who struggle to find women are not necessarily writing ragebaits on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:10 PM
22

Oh no, OP! Please don't do it! Do you promise not to do it? Jk, It's like forcing a bottle up your rectum and hoping the rest of us, what again, punch walls in outrage? You are the one wasting your life on people you don't really like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:05 PM
2

maybe. Regardless, neurodivergent girl is not an accurate representation of women. I am not invested in this conversation, women and their scenarios to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:01 PM
12

Yeah, but most of us are not on the spectrum and look for more subtle clues without creating these fake scenarios. Strange post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:31 PM
1

I am not 19 and my husband is not 37.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:32 PM
1

yes, but frankly, I don't care what men or transpeople feel. People only care about how you act in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:26 PM
1

Because you are assumed to be the masculine leader and decision maker in the relationship that you guys brag you are in every other post? A relationship with a 19 year-old is where you take on the burden of masculinity and responsibility associated with this choice, not youtube comment section. That being said. We shame women for other types of poor romantic/sexual decisions a lot, even if most of us are intelligent enough to not do it overtly. There are things that I can't do or admit to somewh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:31 AM
1

If you are not passing as a gender you want to belong to, of course there are social costs - it's weird, and of course they are justified - people have cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:26 AM
1

Because it's fun
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:25 AM
1

That you are turning this sub into a personal diary, where you are arguing with yourself, trying to convince - yourself - that you don't care about people's opinions. Yet yesterday all of us determined your bedtime.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:24 AM
2

And it's people's choice to look at you weird and make conclusions about you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:23 AM
2

But it's true. I agree with second and third statements - you can't dress however you want and demand that others dismiss your self-presentation, and you can't fuck as many men as you want and argue that nobody has a right to look at you funny. I am not a sexual conservative, but I do believe that anything having to do with sex should either be kept completely private, or you should be ready to face judgment. I'll be a slut, you'll be a predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:52 AM
2

Ok, fair, but it's not that we are focused on opinions of men, it's that we are attacking their right to have an opinion :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:37 AM
10

No, it's people reacting to your dating choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:36 AM
4

Women have found ways to shame literally every sexual desire and impulse men have as “problematic and objectifying” at best and “predatory and rapey” at worst. I'm saying, it sounds like you have this idea that you should be allowed to date whoever you want, all while shielded from women's criticism. And on top of it, you sound very volatile and angry about my feedback as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:35 AM
1

Why would women "focus so much" on the opinions of right-wing thought leaders/politicians, or incels with tendencies to express violent thoughts about women, or men in general? We don't, this is why I did not read the rest of your rant and this is why so many young men are ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:19 AM
4

There are 20-year-olds who fuck "sirs" because "rent is expensive" and "daddy issues". Where are you people meeting 20 year olds girls willing to date some random guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:18 AM
12

It's a social cost of pursuing a 20-year-old.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:15 AM
3

The reality is that you people can't date who you want (in spite of them apparently being attracted to older men) and are misplacing your anger on some random feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:12 AM
2

You are either low IQ or bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:09 AM
2

otably, feminists try to portray men who date significantly younger women as being "predatory" and say that those who engage in that behavior should be shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:08 AM
1

You are purposefully acting obtuse. Of course the post is not about 22 yo woman screwing a 23 yo man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:06 AM
6

Bro graduated from hustler's university and found out that his romantic/sexual choices have very real social consequences. Sounds to me like someone is allergic to accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:04 AM
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No, men should ignore feminists and their rhetoric because it will make their lives better and happier. This is why you made a whole post about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:01 AM
2

Why are you calling random strangers "sweetheart", sugar pie?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:00 AM
0

​ However, it's just a fact that many women are attracted to older men and that being an attractive older man will make yourself appealing to a lot of women. Stop manifesting It's become very obvious that many feminists are pursuing an agenda to pressure men out of their few advantages in dating. Notably, feminists try to portray men who date significantly younger women as being "predatory" and say that those who engage in that behavior should be shamed. Well bro, what the hell? Social consequen…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:58 PM
1

Back on topic, how about you explain to me how I would be happier in a marriage where I'm settled for? i'm nearly not as invested in your life choices as you seem to think I am
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:30 AM
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You don't and you are capping, because nobody prefers that if they are not delusional and grasp the full scope of truths others could share about us. How many people write posts complaining that women call them creeps or side eye them, how many people in the red pilled corner of the internet insist that girls must "respect" them and "submit" to them, how many people can't even handle being told that a girl just wants to be friends, and it's not even a rude thing to say. I've never seen a woman a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 12:29 PM
2

I super don't think about what he is thinking about when he has sex with me. Maybe he even fantasizes about a BBC, who knows. Time to get paranoid about that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:49 PM
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​ It's not childish to want someone who wants you and doesn't think about someone else. Because people don't think about their top 5 people just the top1. I don't think that just because you find someone hotter you'll be thinking about them. Most beautiful women that you see - you just acknowledge that they are more beautiful and move on, and carry on with your day. If your ex was hotter, there is still a reason why she is an ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:21 PM
1

What is this romantic idiocy? Everybody you choose is only going to be the best option at the time, for one because your top choice is not available to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:14 PM
1

You will not last a day in the world where every woman tells you exactly what she thinks, in the terms that she thinks it. Also, doing the exact same thing as women (settling), but also going around town blurting out "truths" like a developmentally delayed child is hardly a more respectable alternative. Clue in a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:09 PM
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No, because the act of telling someone this information is indicative of some level of disrespect towards them. Again, it's not the sentiment itself. It's the act of announcing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:03 PM
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If we are talking chemistry and sexual attraction, I do see it as innocuous if she does not act upon it, whether it's people she dated or people she sees on the internet. I don't see the difference. Finding some random ex hotter does not necessarily translate to wanting to step back in the scenario, there is a reason why this person is an ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:01 PM
1

I am not convinced that people need physical contact in order to experience attraction to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:57 PM
0

The problem with cheating is not that it hurts the other person, if you are cheating on a girl and she finds out and is okay with it, you two are still in the wrong because you are ruining the relationship that you want to last in principle. In your hypothetical, he just should not cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:55 PM
4

"Would rather BE with his ex" is a whole lot different than "finds someone more attractive than you", don't do this sleight of hand, especially as a member of a community that constantly explains people how big the delta is between wanting to fuck someone and committing to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 11:38 PM
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The main thing is that you are among top 15 girls someone fucks, dear triggered person on the internet :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 11:18 PM
4

Oh, okay, I forgot I'm talking to guys. It does not mean we should announce it. Not everything that is true people need to hear or want to hear. For example, I don't want to know how many times you pooped today. Another example is - I don't want to know which number I am on my SO's hotness list.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:52 PM
3

I think the question is more directed at people who are obsessed with virginity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 08:09 PM
4

"I can't believe I got there first!"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 08:06 PM

You are permanently triggered, my dude. You are triggered by sluts, by porn, by anything that asks you to objectively take a look at yourself and your life. Just being this detective dipshit seeking out HyPoCrIsIeS everywhere with a microscope. Take it easy, we are just talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 08:03 PM
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No offense, but... Being married to some random guy is not an accomplishment that anybody envies. "I'm going to obtain a permanent membership from this poor girl" does not answer the question of why she'd be interested in this arrangement. Maybe you are not just some random guy and have a better response?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 08:00 PM
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Why would anybody be more attracted to anyone than to anyone else in the world where instagram and porn are a thing? This insistence on being #1 is juvenile.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:50 PM
38

this was the start of your disney villain arc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:48 PM
1

To be fair you are the one who thought you are witty enough to get personal, I'm just matching your energy, so if anybody acts like Karen, it's you. My question still stands: what are you going to school for and who told you calling your opponent "dumb as fuck" is a high IQ debate tactic?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:27 PM
3

Fine, if this guy is weird like you, we'll make sweet missionary love under blankets with a picture of jesus on the wall :D
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:54 AM
2

Da fuck am I supposed to do with compliments. I'll take the second option, and this will be brutal. I'll sit on his face, I'll make him eat my ass, I'll spit him in the face and I'll edge him. I want him to limp away from this interaction and tell everyone it was the worst sex of his life with every negative opinion about me confirmed, and he'll walk around me by a ten mile radius.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 10:18 PM
0

They deserve it but they don't get it :(
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 10:02 PM
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I am a LVW.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 10:01 PM
1

Sometimes I wonder who even are the people who write this shit, what do they look like, where they live, who hurt them, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:46 PM
2

fanfiction for boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:43 PM
0

I am not above ad hominem. What are you going to school for, and which gender science professor told you to act like a hysterical bitch to win a debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:33 PM
0

Well where do you think the alimony comes from - also rains down on predatory single mothers from the sky? You can't squeeze blood out of turnip. Counting on child support checks and alimony is such a poor life strategy, that every mother tells her daughter to go to college and learn a few skills :/ Nobody aspires to be dependent on their ex-husbands. ​ The person paying child support is the person paying the taxes on that amount. So if mommy receives $721 then daddy actually earned $1000. So if…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:09 PM
1

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/09/20/americans-see-men-as-the-financial-providers-even-as-womens-contributions-grow/ Why are you reading so much random shit about how people perceive you in the society, where you have the freedom to not give a fuck? Here is a thing. There is a ton of not very industrious dudes, who have no job, five baby mamas, and make money dealing weed to high schools in hopes of some day making it as a rapper. These people don't give two shits about others' opi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:55 PM
2

​ My tax money for example, funds female academics within gender studies to write bigoted articles about my gender. That's just one example, but there is something morally messed up about governments taking taxes from men while funding anti-male ideologies and programs with it. I don't understand why it is so hard to understand this. Your complaint is annoying because you are sitting here explaining to me that you disagree with things your government funds via taxes... Like you are seventeen and…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:15 PM
1

Society puts unique financial pressure on men You are polluting the conversation by using vague terminology like "society". "Society" does not care if you make money or not, the only people who are invested in your life outcomes are yourself and the woman who sleeps with you. Maybe your mom. Any other form of paranoia that you might experience is a megalomaniac teenage delusion. Moving on to political side of the question, which is how this was kicked off. Governments and individuals trying to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 01:50 AM
3

Religious fundamentalists. Dad works, mom studies the bible all day, mom yells at dad and dad fucks off to his man cave. The heaven of middle class suburbia. Female is pissed off all the time, male shuts down. I am talking about this in the past sense, but boyfriend stopped being boyfriend because we got married after all his family-inherited weirdness got out of his system.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 11:08 PM
2

Average child support check is $721 per child per month, and this is just people who do get child support. If you don't have anybody to babysit your kid, $721/month with a kid is a very, very fucked position to be in. You are not getting alimony, and you are not taking away crazy money from anybody if your dude picks up shifts at a local Burger King. But most importantly, child support does not just fall into your bank account as a donation from Jesus - if you have the kind of relationship with …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:52 PM
2

Yeah, but if you are experienced - this is character flaw and a problem. In this case, nobody just modeled what people act like in a relationship for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:33 PM
1

If you just step out and don't come back for a few hours and have your phone on silent - I don't know where you've been, I don't know who you've been with, and I don't know what's on your mind. You can't just randomly fuck off because you are upset and then act like nothing happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:31 PM
4

it's wild to watch how everybody and their dog jerks off to how important it is for women to perform their roles of mothers and wives, but when it comes to conversation about men sharing their taxes with everybody, women are denied credit for wasting their lives on taking care of the family
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:27 PM
2

The US government does not put any unique financial pressures on men - women do, specifically women in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:09 PM
1

ok, get a plastic surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:07 PM
12

Everybody who has money is exploited for their money, bro. What the fuck is this dumb argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:44 PM
14

So many people graduated from hustler's university and landed face first in the real world. First of all, women pay taxes too, and women pay for their children's shit considering that child support checks are laughable. Tyron does not pay thousands to Tammy because Tyron does not have a job, and Tammy is too legally illiterate to take him to court. So Tammy has to pick up some shifts at a local gas station. This is reality of single motherhood. But your statements read as if being single mom is …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:43 PM
7

dated someone with 0 relationship experience: everything needs to be explained. "You can't just demand sex and get upset that it is not happening", "you can't just walk away from the apartment after an argument and then expect that I wait for you", "No, I could not mindread that you wanted me to do this for you", etc. After all that, he stopped being weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:30 PM
1

you tell me about that, random person on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:21 PM

"What humans want if given all of the options" has exactly 0 relevance to most of the topics here, because, firstly, in the real world they are not given all of the options and, secondly, they don't know themselves enough to make a prediction on how they would act if the world was served to them on the silver platter. Most humans are full of delusions about themselves and the firmness of their principles. These comments in the "could, should and would" format are not just there as a standalone p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:39 AM

I think if they tell on themselves and especially if they use very charged language, it's safe to assume the person is on a vendetta against the world for not catering to their expectations. Everything they have to say can be safely discarded in this case. Could be a troll, but I personally don't see any comedic value in these complaint posts/comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:26 AM
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Everyone likes someone for something shallow. You only like women because they are hot and have vaginas, your love is not "the purest form of love there is".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:21 AM

Why do I need to be able to tell? They know who they are
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:18 AM
1

Making money is a much better life strategy then worrying about your appearance, especially as a dude. You do realize at some point we will all be ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:12 AM

You just read a few paragraphs that everybody else seemed to comprehend in order to ask me what the point of the post is? Everybody has wants/desires/standards How is this contradictory to anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:10 AM

shouldn't use them as arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:08 AM

Well, they could be, and to those who are lying/trolling my post does not apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:57 PM

If everybody knows it, why are so many people worried about becoming a betabucks and attracting a golddigger when their bank account is not even five digits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:55 PM

Not really, because people don't even bother to hide the fact that they are struggling. It's not like everybody on FDS says they bathe in eligible dick - people are open about not getting attention from somebody who meets their bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:52 PM

Some individuals out themselves by saying they barely get any shots at all with people they like or with just anybody. Others insist their dream person with X characteristic does not exist (around them, because, obviously, rarely can someone conceptualize something that does not exist).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:39 PM
1

Basically, your discriminatory opinions about the opposite sex are only as valuable as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 10:00 PM
1

Well, if whoever says it is not contributing anything - no offense, but this is their problem to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:46 PM

3) Men, and I'm assuming women, typically know if you're relationship material after 1-2 dates. Absolutely not, you can't find out what someone is as a person after having food with them twice. You need to watch them in other situations. Mine is not about dating per se: Until a guy starts bringing something to the table to match female sexuality his opinions about these women does not count.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:49 PM
1

Some might, but in this case resentment is just their own delusions regarding what they deserve. Not every sense of resentment is warranted
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:45 PM
1

Past a certain age (like 35f, 40m if you are lucky) your genetics is just going to deteriorate anyways, the only people who remain hot are not the ones who were born with a certain jawline, but the ones who eat good, work out and go to cosmetologist/dentist. If you look at fine looking people in the milf/dilf category, they are not even traditionally "beautiful". They just have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:00 PM
1

Average woman will have more experience than you if you are not meeting physical requirements. This is just reality. Or you have to make good money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:06 PM
1

But where is the competitive masculinity? Where is the redpilled energy? Every day a good girl with traditional values turns 18, and every day a new girl breaks up with a boyfriend. Why can't you become her first/her next?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:47 PM
0

You're essentially telling guys like that they should just shut up and be ok dying alone while most people get to experience a nice life. I told him to stop being bitch-made and go court the woman he says he deserves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:00 PM
1

yes. So low value men need low value women more than vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:54 PM
1

No, hold up, if she is interested enough she'll get over herself. If she does not get over herself - she is not interested enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:53 PM
1

but shit does not chase flies
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:52 PM
1

Her value is based on perception of high value men. Voices of people who women rejected first are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:52 PM

they enjoy sex but not with you bro "lmao".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:51 PM
1

And after that I've asked what you bring to match the little value that they do have. For now, this opinion remains an opinion of somebody who does not bring any value at all about somebody who at least brings something
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:16 PM
2

Some people want it from her, anyone wants it from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:55 PM
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