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Emotionally cheating. Worse than physically cheating, imo -- betrayal is that much worse. Any kind of abuse -- physical, gaslighting, belittling me, dissing my friends and fam in an attempt to isolate me, insulting my appearance, making me feel 'insecure' on purpose, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 04:13 AM
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Yeah, but then idk why you would respond to me and say, ''I clearly don't understand the appeal of...'' I'm talking about sports that involve doing a lot of weight training with your own body, throughout. Ballet, contemp dance, pole, yoga -- they will all give you a nice back.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 04:09 AM
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It's not that unusual. I have friends who do 0 exercise -- just walk places -- and only eat ''relatively well'' who have abs. It's genetic, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 04:05 AM
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I wasn't saying you could model traditionally. Life modelling is not traditional modelling. It's modelling poses for artists. I used to do a class that focused on nudes -- 5'10 dudes of all body types definitely allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 03:55 AM
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If you mean any kind of resistance, fine. But if you mean weights specifically, no. There's heaps of ''resistance'' provided by lifting your own body in sports like pole, dance etc. This is why when people say, ''but lifting is the only way!'' (usually meaning lifting in the gym) I lol. Go and tell all the parkour people they don't have nice backs because they didn't weight lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 03:53 AM
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"I had no clue that men want to be desired by their sex partners until lolly was good enough to tell me about it" That's not what the point of any of my posts were. Everybody knows this to be the case. The point of my posts was that incels think their issues are about ''sex''. Their issues are not about ''sex'' -- their issues are about feeling wanted, desired and accepted. You're making this about me ''educating'' people about ''what men want'' when it's patently not. You need to learn to read …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 03:47 AM
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Correlation does not = causation. And why are you certain, aren't you the dude who's all about falsification? Is there any hard evidence for that? (Honestly, I doubt your statement to be true. Incels seem very risk-averse as a whole and sexually satisfied people do not).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 03:45 AM
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?? Where did you get this impression. Priests definitely interact with people of all ages (including children, hence the constant scandals in the Catholic church)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 03:43 AM
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I am describing what they believe to be the root of their disenfranchisement with a note of irony, there. It's like how when I say, "you think you're so great. Your reading skills are so good" I'm not making any statements I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 03:42 AM
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I didn't call his post racist. I said it was whining about the experiences of racists while dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 03:38 AM
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Difference being that they CHOSE to be celibate. Yes. That is the difference. So the issue is not ''sex'' -- the issue is being such a Have Not in society that you can't make a decision about whether or not you have it. That is not true. I know many monks who live in the community (my last psych was a monk, for example). You are missing nuance No, you are. I AM NOT SAYING INCELS SHOULD BE HAPPY. I am saying the root of their dissatisfaction is not ''sex'' -- it's being perceived as bottom of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 03:38 AM
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Terpers want the plates to desire them, at least sexually. Not the point. ''Emotionless'' there referred to the terpers themselves. Not all sex is an emotionally connected experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 03:36 AM
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No, she's just not skinny fat at all. There's no ''fat'' on her -- skinny fat refers to people who look slim in clothes but are actually chubby beneath them. Girl has definition (line in the center of her belly) -- she's just not ''muscular'' but she's fit. She's not ''middle class'' by any means. She is extremely attractive, most likely a model. This is just a dude thinking that his individual boner dictates beauty standards and that anything his boner doesn't like is fat. No need to over compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 03:34 AM
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Lifting = not the only way to get a strong upper back. Also, yes, you all have your lifting fetish, it's okay. Let's move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 03:30 AM
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There is a reason this is one of the most upvoted posts on this thread. It's because a lot of people agreed with me. Sorry dude, I am not alone. I did not ''read sex literally''. I understood what people ''meant'' by sex (love! relationshippy gorgeous sex where I am accepted!!). But that's not what ''sex'' generally means (esp not here, with all these RP men emotionlessly spinning plates). I pointed out that people were interested in something other than the physical act of sex and were pinning …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 04:42 PM
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of lack of non-transactional sex Why does this matter? BECAUSE THE DUDE WANTS TO FEEL DESIRED. It is not about the physical act of sex. It is about feeling wanted by the opposite sex. If they had no desire for sex that met the above requirements, the dissatisfaction would be nonexistent. I agree. If men did not want to have sex that made them feel desired and validated as people, the dissatisfaction would be nonexistent. If they were interested in the purely physical act of sex, the dissatisfact…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 04:39 PM
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Why the hairsplitting? It's not hairsplitting. It's literally people pretending the issue is sex when the issue is NOT sex. The issue is love, feeling desired and wanted. The issue is attention and validation, not sex. when men say they're suffering for lack of sex, that always means a lack of sex with willing human non-prostitutes. The fucking point is, if the issue were sex, there wouldn't be all of these bizarre requirements. The issue is not sex, it's feeling desired enough that a woman will…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 04:35 PM
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obviously severely autistic, so it's a bit silly to use him for a population of people who are mostly neurotypical. What makes you think incels are 'mostly neurotypical'? I would wager otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 04:25 PM
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, rather than strength. Your own source is making my argument, lol Okay, let's go to the second one: I TOO, thought my powerlifting background would give me an advantage in boxing. If lifting weights made me a more powerful lifter, shouldn’t it make me a more powerful puncher as well? I heard about old school boxers staying away from weights but I refused to give up my self-proclaimed “advantage”. When comparing myself to other beginners, I could see that I was stronger than all of them. My boxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 07:37 AM
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a sour old cat lady hates men??? ... amazing!! Inaccurate. My friends' mothers all liked men (certainly more than my married mother!), no one had cats (allergies), no one was bitter. Some people are meant to be bachelorettes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 07:24 AM
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That is plastic surgery, FYI.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 07:18 AM
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Bow down to your Amused Master, bitches :P
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 07:17 AM
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Deadlifts will definitely help you pick up your groceries - very functional. Yes, sure. I brought that dude up because I'd already linked him and couldn't be bothered linking something new -- shouldn't have confused the issue. The point, however, was that lifting in and of itself does not necessarily lead to an increase in functional strength. Pretty sure there'll be a ton of reddit threads where people talk about this phenom, too. Olympic weightlifting does not decrease the quality of your musc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 07:13 AM
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y more "functional" than picking up heavy grocery bags? You do not use the same motion (or muscles) you use in lifting (bodybuilder style) when you pick up heavy grocery bags, generally speaking. Other forms of sport ''train'' you to lift grocery bags, just as well as bodybuilding. it's a valid training style for anyone interested in strength training. I'm not saying it's invalid. I never was. It works, but it does reduce the quality of your muscle, so if ''function'' is your priority (strength)…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 06:42 AM
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but a bodybuilder is still going to be far stronger than an average untrained guy. Read the article I posted -- the first one. The research shows that this is not as clear cut as you might think. But sure, people who train every day are going to be stronger than people who do not. That wasn't the original goalpoast. It was ''people who do this sport'' vs ''people who do this other sport''. In terms of functional strength (fights, manual labour etc), I would not pick a body builder over a smaller…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 06:25 AM
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Did you read the articles I posted? One is from a powerlifter talking about how his ability to throw a punch was negatively impacted by weightlifting. He got stronger, but only in relation to lifting weights. It's not 'functional' strength in many ways. Besides, Olympic weightlifters specifically do not ''bulk'' or seek to meet the aesthetic ''ideal'' that people here always talk about. They're not generally jacked. Just very, very strong -- it's a different kind of lifting than classic gym bro …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 06:06 AM
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Or you could just lift without the goal of getting 'big'? Lift functionally? I'm talking about the way a lot of gym bros lift -- read more closely, you'll see that I said I lift, myself. It's not even everyone at the gym, but this has always been the vast majority at gyms I've been around bar crossfit. Muscle achieved via hypertrophy, looks big, doesn't work. 'Sports' other than weightlifting do increase strength. Especially if they involve functional lifting using one's own body. What's this co…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:58 AM
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I use the Socratic method all the time. I have noticed this, haha. I use both, though -- sometimes people need a bit of a nudge and then they can think critically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:53 AM
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This doesn't happen. Many of my friends were raised by single mothers (divorced etc). They're all about the single life -- they got to see that their mothers weren't devastated and didn't need relationships. (I think there are a lottttt of women who would actually prefer to be single if society eased up on the pressure to couple up a bit. So many women -- to me anyway -- seem high disgust, very into their own space/way etc and that's not conducive for a relationship that's sexual.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:47 AM
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12, mostly because I love numbers and patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:40 AM
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Not sure if the difference is that big from the male perspective tbh. The consensus at AskMen is that you're a weirdo. Ask the dudes of PPD if they feel the same way about sex with their wives and gfs and soulmates as they do with 'some chick'. Go ahead. The difference is huge for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:36 AM
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Yeah it's not functional, generally speaking. It's why we focus only on a certain kind of weight lifting in dance -- so as not to tear the muscle and make it grow (which does 0 for strength) via hypertrophy Most people who are bulking are purposely developing muscle that is purely aesthetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:35 AM
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I tend to think of argument via a string of questions as useful at times. Socratic method and all that jazz -- it's easier to get someone to change their minds if they do the critical thinking and work at the answer themselves instead of reading it. I've never felt like any wall-of-text discussion posts I've had around here have led to consensus. But questions (mostly open-ended and a few leading) have sometimes yielded this result.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:28 AM
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yes, I am obviously floridly manic and am also currently in the throes of PTSD triggered by the sight of a client's micropenis. Classic bipolar hooker lyf. Too wyld to be trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:16 AM
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https://theconversation.com/why-bigger-isnt-always-better-in-the-world-of-muscle-building-47870 https://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-training/boxing-workouts/why-lifting-weights-wont-increase-punching-power Why? It's not true. Weight lifting often creates 'big' muscle that isn't usable -- too dense, not flexible enough. It's peacocking and classic hypertrophy for heaps of dudes. It does not markedly increase your strength if you're aiming for size gains which many lifters are. You'll look good, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:04 AM
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skinny fat is kinda eh. She's not skinny fat at all. 0 fat. Light muscle definition. This was what we used to call 'willowy' back in the day before everybody got into reverse-PC-edgy body shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 04:28 AM
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Wtf. They're both amazing in terms of figure. That 'too much' woman would blow your mind in a dress in real life, guaranteed. She's so curvy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 04:26 AM
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Shoulda done life modelling. You woulda picked up in a snap. The ladies in my classes have always liked a good chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 04:25 AM
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Nah, 100% serious, fam. There was also a tea party with my mother's friends where I got my bag of tricks out and pegged them one by one with an 8 inch dildo. My teen years were wyld.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 04:22 AM
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Yes they do if they want that butt thunder Nah. Just dance. Do pole. All those body lifts in heels = way better for your arse and thighs than lifting. Lifting, ime, creates a kind of muscle that is very compact and not flexible (this is why there's a difference in the way that gym bros look and ballet dancers look). This is attractive (esp if you're starting from overweight) but is not ideal. For aesthetic reasons and because it's not actually usable/practical muscle. Like the kind of 'lifting' …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 04:19 AM
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People are attracted to who they're attracted to. Yeah but there's 0 need for disdain. When you feel the need to ''broadcast'' how superior you and your chosen ones are -- racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 12:38 AM
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Legit tho. I am actually an alien sugar faery succubus. Idk how RP got this so wrong. Child snorts
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 12:31 AM
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Have you ever had sex with someone you love? Ever had sex with someone you don't really care about? Notice the difference? Sex and intimacy do not always come together. defining all the aspects of sex that make it a need Well, ''all the aspects'' are -- ''a relationship, love''. "I want to fall in love with someone and I want them to love me back'' (sex is implicitly part of that). The ''key'' shit is the emotional aspect here. I'm just reframing, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 12:28 AM
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'm kind of getting annoyed at the seperation of sex from all the intimate bonding that inevitably takes place hwen youre getting it regularly Why? If you were to say ''lack of meaningful relationships and bonding'' were the issue, I would agree. You're framing it in terms of sex (acting as if the physical is the ''thing'' and not the ''emotional'' -- because hey, that's not manly to admit, is it?). think it's obvius to most people that i fyoure having sex youre also getting fulfilled in other wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 12:25 AM
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Yes. I think ''intimacy'' and ''connection'' of some kind (friendship, romantic, familial etc) is a need. We are social creatures. But sex, especially casual sex, is not really about ''connection'' or ''intimacy'' for most people. It's about getting their rocks off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 12:21 AM
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"squat for a nice ass" instead. It works for me sans weights, but not with. Lifting fucks with my proportions, esp if it's heavy. (I know, internet blasphemy)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 12:18 AM
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No judgement -- everybody's body will do what it does and everybody's going to have to tailor their fitness 'regime' (I no longer have one apart from walking places and yoga, lol). But whenever you see lifting on reddit and someone reccing it to a woman it's in the context of how great it is for weight loss, particularly rapid weight loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 12:15 AM
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i'ts very likely youre not getting the needed physical interaction you need from the opoosite sex. T Well, no. Because you don't necessarily get intimacy from the opposite sex. When I'm not in a relationship, all of my ''intimacy'' comes from my female friends. That quiet closeness, the conversations that are ''srs'', the light physical contact. Men don't touch each other. This is why they feel like sex and intimacy are the same. They are not. , if a man isn't geting sex, it goes without saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 12:14 AM
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lifting would actually benefit a lot of women. Contrary to the popular myth, they won't get too bulky due to the lack of testosterone. Some people even argue that lifting + dieting is superior to cardio for weight loss even for women. I think everyone here who lifts is too weight loss focused. Lifting is great for weight loss, yep. Not all of us are trying to lose weight. What I did (dancing) is all about strength and flexibility, while also throwing in some cardio. Lifting is not the only way t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 12:07 AM
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Yes, and all my high school teachers. Obvi.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 11:57 PM
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Everything is different if you have build a foundation in your teens. I started dancing when I was 5, so yeah. It's very different as a foundation to what most people have. I don't think lifting weights is entirely necessary for women, though. You can do a lot of ''weight lifting'' with your body (yoga tones me like crazy). Also idk I would rather go to the local kids' park and do pull-ups than go to the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 11:54 PM
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Priests do not exclusively hang with other priests. There's a whole congregation and choir.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 11:51 PM
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If not getting sex and intimacy fucks up your psychological state IF. If is the key word, there. INTIMACY is another key word there. Intimacy and sex are not one and the same. You can get intimacy from non-sexual relationships. Sex is great. It is not a ''need'' (beyond the urge for release, which yes, is satisfied by masturbation). The ''need'' is intimacy -- love, validation, affirmation of desirability. It's not lack of sex that fucks people up. It's lack of intimacy and constant rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 11:47 PM
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Yes. That's why I was fit as a teenager. Because for a 6 month period in my twenties I would escort. You got me all figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 11:45 PM
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Well, yes, it does match OP. I have read it in its entirety. That does not make either of them credible. My point was never that they didn't match -- it was that Freud had been debunked and that this thread was shallow in its understanding of the causes of political extremism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:35 PM
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Well, it seemed like the main thing to respond to, because really, how the fuck can we have a discussion about how it's ''political reasons'' that have led to Freud being debunked. It's just a wild assertion of yours -- a feeling. I can't argue with that. But Lacan basically deconstructed Freud while claiming to ''interpret'' him. The unconscious is no longer a ''cave'' that underlies our being in psychiatry. It's a language. But fuck offfffff. I didn't respond to enough of your points. Ah, well…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:28 PM
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he's the one who defined it as we know it today and who incorporated it into therapy. No he is not. Lacan and Jung are. Freudian concept of the unconscious is outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:22 PM
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$300/hour doing upscale escorting? $800. 60/40 split between me and the agency. Is that just a sheltered/naive view of what (upscale) escorting is Probably, yes. it seems like it's incredibly good money, sometimes they even wine/dine you and so on, the guys aren't that gross (maybe even attractive), the sex isn't that bad, and you can get filthy rich... Even for me, and I had a great time overall, sometimes the guys are gross and unattractive (rare, but it happened, usually caus old). Sometimes …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:21 PM
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Wouldn't anyone finding themselves at the bottom of the barrel not be very happy about it? Yes. But can you not understand why nobody wants to hear it on repeat. Vent, but don't just vent. Do something else, too, that's all. If you look at my posts, you'll see that I'm not generally telling incels to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:16 PM
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are still used to explain the cognitive development during out entire life. By who? Who uncritically uses Piaget? Answer: no one -- because everybody knows the theory is flawed. Again, just because something is ''used'' does not mean it has not been debunked. It's just still sometimes useful as a concept. The theory of ''unconscious'' or subconscious mind does not belong to Freud, btw. It was in wide usage by a number of philosophers/poets/psychoanalysts (like Binet) in the 19th century. Idk why…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:13 PM
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Men and women do different kinds of exercise. Men need to ''lift'' more to get an ideal physique, so they need the weight machines and go to the gym heaps. Women do not need to do this. I was fitter than the vast majority of gym bros in my teens and early twenties, probably still beat a large % of em now. Never set foot in a gym -- I was a dancer. I played sports (which included doing weights and HIIT as part of practice, but not at the gym). Also, female only gyms. I went to the gym a few times…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:07 PM
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Oh, ffs, I didn't say he was no longer influential, I said he had been ''debunked''. Descartes is still influential even though the consensus today is that dualism is a flawed theory. Flawed theories stay with us sometimes, because they tap a nerve. Also Evolutionary Psychology is a field full of weeds and very few flowers. You're not making me think highly of Freud by pulling that card ''he was the predecessor of Kanazawa!!'' is hardly impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:59 PM
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as if she has any fucking clue what it's like to be a sexless man, it goes beyond just sexual frustration by itself - it's almost like a fundamental flaw of you as a person that derails your social capital. Well, m8 that is actually what I was trying to say. It's not about the sex itself, it's about the feeling of disenfranchisement and lost social capital. This is not about ''sex''. It's about validation and desirability, haves and have nots. If it were about sex and release, you would indeed b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:54 PM
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sex isn't just a want, it's a need. It's not a need, it's an urge and a desire. You don't die if you don't fuck. It's not like food or water or air. Even when I'm hypersexual, I won't die if I want to have sex and I can't find someone. I'll be okay with getting myself off. It's more like drugs, alcohol or smoking, tbh, and no one would say you ''need'' drugs to survive (although there is an emerging field of intoxicology). An urge and a desire. You take it once, the first time it's not that grea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:48 PM
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: What did you mean by "escorting?" Escorting = high-end prostitution, generally of the outcall variety. 2: And what did you mean by "women are also relatively easy? I like women sexually. Bi. They're also easy, but not as easy as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:44 PM
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the only way a sexless male human is likely to be happy is if almost everybody in the peer group is also celibate. This just is not historically true. It's not even true in my peer group. I have friends who haven't had sex in months and they're fine hanging out with all the dudes with gfs. It's not ''sex'' that these people are craving -- it's validation of their desirability, tbh. That's the thing that drives em nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:41 PM
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Yes, that's what I said. You didn't go on a weird tirade about how hard it is to date as a racist because there aren't enough racist women. You just talked about how much you like free markets. Uhuh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:40 PM
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if you think a man entering his late teens and early-mid 20s with limited to no sex isn't enough to fuck his mind up, This was standard not so long ago. People got married as virgins. They were not fucking everyone in their teens. It did not ''fuck people's minds up''. It made them horny. I shoudln't haveto spell out that some people aren't just looking to pay for sex. Yes, and this proves the issue is not about sex. It's about being validated as ''desirable'' like all the other ''normal'' men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:39 PM
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hat there are some exceptional individuals that cna rise above it all? They are not exceptional. There have been celibate people since the dark ages. People who elect to be monks etc. you are not respecting the biological importance of a healthy sex life. What is the biological importance of having casual sex 10x a year or whatever else you think is healthy? Tell me more & tell me why people in conservative cultures aren't dead. Biological shit re: sex is all orgasm and happy hormones that come …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:37 PM
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I mean, even then, Belle du Jour seemed pretty genuine with her clients (bit of a gloss on the whole thing, that one. No drugs). I think they just want to feel bad for themselves/like they have no viable options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:31 PM
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They also believe they are disenfranchised, tho. It's absolutely the same. They are 'extreme' because hegemonic, patriarchal structures have done them down. Duh. (and their complaint is more legit than dudes' imho)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:29 PM
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Well, yeah, it costs heaps. It's a lot of hours of her time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:27 PM
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If I wanted to pull one of these socialist ladies, I'd have to couch some of my rhetoric carefully - but it's totally doable. Cry me a river. Couching your racist rhetoric to score with fake socialist ladies?! These challenges. This SMP is just so rough for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 06:16 PM
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the only way a sexless male human is likely to be happy is if almost everybody in the peer group is also celibate. This is not true. Kant, for example. Priests, historically. Many people ''choose'' celibacy because they find it invigorates them (despite having a sex drive). My point is that if you deprive humans of anything they've decided they ''want want want'' (money, power, sex) they will become politically extreme. The dissatisfaction is key, the sex is not. (also it's not sex. Sex is more …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 06:13 PM
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Lmao. Fraud is really the only acceptable misspelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 06:08 PM
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Keeping it going is the hard part. I think this is p. normal. Obviously because I am a mega weirdo, I'm the opposite. The hardest part for me is ''letting'' the relationship happen because of my commitment issues. Once I get to the ''accept'' stage, everything is pretty much smooth sailing (comparatively, still work involved) and almost guaranteed to turn into a LTR. I've only really ever broken up with people because I wasn't ready to get married yet b/c of my personal shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 06:04 PM
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Freud has been thoroughly debunked, just FYI. Interesting ideas, but not many that stand up to close examination over time. Sex is not some great catharsis that saves us from neuroses. Sexual compulsion -- dat strength of libido -- and ease of gratification often create neuroses, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:55 PM
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What is leading to ''sexual dissatisfaction'' that creates such malcontent, though? It's not just lack of sex (monks = peaceable and no sex, nuns etc). If it were just sex -- there are more options available to you today than ever before to slake that thirst. It is more socially acceptable than ever before for you to do so. Watch some very realistic porn and get yourself off, book an escort, post on Craigslist etc. You are missing complexity. This is not about sex itself. It is about dissatisfac…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:53 PM
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I always assumed that amused mastery is what any human does when somebody is getting all worked up over nothing. Yeah, this! It's just the edgelord descriptors that throw people off, as per usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:48 PM
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Yeah, forreal, the whole sexbots solution is ridiculous. Everyone will know you ordered SailorXena Waifu 2.0 and mock the shit out of you for it. Nothing will change. Also if the experience is as real as dudes are claiming it will get, there will be no sex bots. AI with a consciousness will not be sold as sex slaves. That's ethically fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:47 PM
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Some people ARE bottom of the barrel because they are less than decent human beings. Lots of them, actually. Some people are there through no fault of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:44 PM
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Tbh, it's not really like this with most clients. Unless you are totally foul in every way or she's in the industry for the wrong reasons, there will be something 'human' there (not love, though, generally speaking) I genuinely liked the majority of my clients as people. Even the douchey ones had redeeming qualities and I had some great sex with clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:43 PM
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prostitutes will never ever play house wife Sure they will. Heaps of escorts do this. Sometimes for extended periods of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:40 PM
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Except...it kind of does mean that you're judged less harshly/that the standard is more lenient. Because it's not the ''be all/end all'' factor. If you're an ugly man, get rich, be cool, some hot chick will bite. If you're an ugly woman...good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:36 PM
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wuuuuuutttttttttt
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:35 PM
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Yes, but sex work is also highly risky and is female-dominated. This is more about the gendered nature of the work. This is facile. The kind of risks required to be a miner and the kind of risks required to be 0.01% rich are quite different, imo. As for bungee jumping, no idea, but I suspect it's on par for skydiving based on the times I've done it, if not female-dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:33 PM
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This still does not make the housework itself "communication" about housework. Communication issues themselves are, often, the biggest issue/dispute in a relationship. If you can't resolve conflict properly, you're doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 10:23 AM
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This is true in all contexts except for casual sex, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:06 AM
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Okayyyy. This still has 0 bearing on communication re: issues and disputes in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:04 AM
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What does this have to do with communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:18 AM
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Whatever he means by it -- he said they tolerate his bad behaviour. There's a difference between cutting a longterm partner some slack and putting up with their intentional, shitty behaviour. Sounds like cheating in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:15 AM
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a guy should recognize he's an equal participant in the social situation... it's perfectly acceptable for him to get his way sometimes and for her to get her way sometimes. Mutual. You are worthy of telling someone what you want. I don't think it's that women like to be lead around more than it's women like men who know they're worthy enough to lead. Yessss, this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 07:35 AM
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Everything -- but I don't like to get into details about the pain involved in the dissolution of my prior engagement b/c he gets jealous. Not because I'm not willing to share. I don't really let people help me with my 'problems', though. My shit is my shit. So if I have an issue that's ongoing and not historical, I will be absolutely quiet about it until it's resolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 07:26 AM
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I think you're mostly supposed to use amused mastery in bantery type situations, no? Like during the actual 'pick up' or dating phase, when she gives you a 'shit test' (not really a test, just standard banter). Amused mastery is just laughing at other people when they playfully tease you. Bizarre name for something perfectly normal, tbh -- RPers being very dramatique. (In relationship context, I think it's standard to use it to de-escalate stupid arguments. Like my ex-fiancee and I used to fight…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 07:24 AM
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Therapy. Get thee to it. This is a very broken worldview and your behaviour does not sound conducive to finding the 'acceptance/homecoming' that it's clear you actually want in a relationship. No, not every woman cheats. This is patently obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 07:17 AM
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assuming that a woman tolerating my bad behavior was about love for me, rather than just because she didn't have any better at that time and place. Dumb af, tbh. Quality people don't put up with bullshit. If you want to attract a quality partner, do not go for someone who 'tolerates bad behaviour'. It just means they're a desperado, 90% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 07:11 AM
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It reek of confirmation bias, or you just making things up, tbh. I've never seen any attractive guy actually be annoyed by it. It's just what I've seen and what I've been told. shrug YMMV. Could be a cultural thing -- idk I mostly hang out with very attractive people and the guys don't like being pursued as a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 07:07 AM
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All other things being equal the richest 1% of this society will be dominated by Y-types. And the poorest 20% will also be mostly Y-types. Yes, for sure. I think a lot of young men are more cautious than young women these days, though. Would actually like to see info on this for risk-taking behaviour (I know things are changing in terms of driving -- insurers are making people pay the same amount because, turns out, women have become equally risky). Anyway, regardless, this theory does not expla…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 07:05 AM
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The men too, ime. Just so many attractive people in that country -- something in the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 07:01 AM
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Do it, haha. I think for people whom it suits it is really the best style. Also gives you a bit of a sexy femme fatale edge, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 06:49 AM
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No. Someone is always going to be the bottom of the barrel. The bottom of the barrel isn't good (esp because we measure comparatively, generally -- so even if they get sex robots or whatever, they'll be like, 'why can't I get this without paying for a robot like everyone else??')
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 06:47 AM
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Why? How is that difference created by the presence of testosterone?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 06:44 AM
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Why should anyone be remorseful if they're under or over, either? There is no shame in being a virgin or sleeping around, especially if it's something you wanted to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 02:52 AM
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I think it's a bit diff with millenials. I think there's like 33% of people who will have 1 partner -- married early crowd, pushing back against the ''raunch'' culture that everyone else is into. 33% doing what you've described and another 33% getting really, really into raunch and poly lifestyles and swinging and all that stuff. 1% outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 02:51 AM
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If I see strong evidence that blood flow to the penis rises whevever a single woman under the age of 50 appears, then I can't deny it. Why, though? Because she has to present herself in the right light to trigger your subconscious attraction and maybe she just hasn't done that yet. You're probably also subconsciously into dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 02:33 AM
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Yeah I got the most attention from dudes when I shaved all my hair off. Spoke to hubby about it and he was like, ''duh, the contrast was sexy, because you look so hyperfeminine otherwise''. I think short works on soft looking women and bald on women with cheekbones/defined bone structure and softish features.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 02:28 AM
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Idk about American Jews, but Israeli women are all beautiful, imo. I have never seen so many pretty people than when I was in Israel (bar Scandinavia).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 02:20 AM
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8ish. But I'm exotic looking so depends on your preferences. Some people think I am a 10, other people think I am a 6, it's whatever. I've made a lot of money out of my appearance directly (promo work, insta, escorting). I suspect it's had both positive and negative effects in terms of my 'proper' career -- people tend to think I've slept with people I haven't to get where I am, if I'm not super friendly I get called a bitch, but if I am super friendly I get called a flirt. Lots of dudes at Uni …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 02:16 AM
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Ffs, what is wrong with you that you think incest is a 'subtle brag'. Twisted. In b4, 'girl, relaxxxx, I'm just a cunt it's aight' response.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 02:10 AM
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What does strength have to do with competition, though? The idea that women are less competitive than men is daft -- just look at the stereotypical high school 'mean girls' who put boys to shame with their Machiavellian power struggles. Women are just more veiled about it. And as diplomacy becomes more and more important in the workplace and "direct aggression" ceases to be rewarded (it loses you clients and business, tbh, a lot of the time -- veiled communication that is still assertive works b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 02:06 AM
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Well, I don't think testosterone does make men more competitive. More aggressive, perhaps. But competition and ambition are channeled aggression -- a positive spin on aggression if you will. Way too cerebral a quality to be predicated by a hormone. Heaps of dudes just don't channel that aggression, heaps of women channel what they have better and are more calculated with their risks because they're 'calmer'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 02:01 AM
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At the lightest I was dropped at 110 lbs and it's various things from tripping to just general carelessness that I've been dumped on my head. Woman. Who are you dating?! Don't care if he can't do it, but then just don't try. Dropping her is def not cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 01:46 AM
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Don't care, but it has never happened and I doubt it ever will. I don't like dudes carrying me around, tbh -- don't go gaga for it at all. I think bigger/taller women go in for this a lot because it helps them to feel ''light'' and ''petite''. I don't have any trouble with that, so it just annoys me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 01:42 AM
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That doesn't mean its government run that you claimed. It does. It is a government initiative. The Department of Social Services is paying for it. This is a ''government run program'' even if it is implemented by another organisation. Most ''government run programs'' are implemented by other bodies. Almost nothing is a ''government run program'' by your idiotic definition. The executive is not extensive enough for this -- we cannot implement our programs ourselves. It absolutely does assist male…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 12:28 PM
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certain "types of brains" But what is the ''type''? A ''blend''? There don't seem to be clearly identifiable types. There is no clear ''male structure'' or ''female structure''. We're all mutts. x which as I understand is pretty much what Baron Cohen argues for his autism research and "extreme male brain theory" Extreme male brain theory has, at its core, the idea that there is a ''male brain structure'' and a ''female brain structure''. The research I linked is aimed at debunking this theory an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 12:10 PM
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Much like you cared about me "putting words" in your mouth despite doing the same to me several times, but I never made an issue over it. Because I didn't make up things that you said. I didn't say, ''omg why are you saying that women are neanderthals?!'' which is the equivalent of what you were doing. It's stupid. I have said that men have issues multiple times and you continue to tell me that I am saying that they don't. On what fucking basis? I do not think disadvantages and issues are the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:53 AM
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The government created it and handed off to a private organization. Do you understand that when the government outsources/pays a private corporation to do something, it does not cease to be a government initiative. It is still a government program -- the government has just outsourced its implementation. On Line ''manages'' the implementation of the hot line imagined by the government. The Department of Social Services is paying them to do so, get it? That's what makes it a ''government initiati…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:46 AM
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That's just another empty statement from you. No, I think if you're looking at law comparative to IT, Cravath is mid-tier. You presented it as high-tier. It's ''white shoe" but it is not as ''elite'' as UK Mag. Circle, which I would describe as the legal equivalent of Google, Facebook et al. (Reason being that Cravath, for all its clout, is still rather 'provincial' in that it's very NY-focused. Firms that have global networks outclass it, although NYers will think it's high-tier, just as Aussie…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:30 AM
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Three I am not an MRA. Maybe if you stop talking like an MRA and using their talking points and rhetoric I won't call you one. I don't give a fuck if you call me a feminist. Stop using it like a dirty word -- it's not. Just because I am ''not a feminist'' and have issues with the movement, doesn't mean it's The Worst Thing Eva. Your perception of ''the female superiority'' that is emerging is way off, so idgaf about what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:28 AM
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Posting on my phone, soz.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:26 AM
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Women who get hit on all the time also complain the most about getting hit on. What's your big point? My 'big point' is about the way that men complain about it. They say, ''I don't want a woman to hit on me, it feels too aggressive'' or ''I want to be the one who pursues'' or ''it makes me think she's desperate''. Women say, ''I am sick of being hit on by men, it happens too often and it's exhausting''. It's completely different. My point is that an ''active'' woman, even if she's just ''asking…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:25 AM
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MensLine Australia is managed by On the Line, Australia's leading professional telephone and online counselling and training provider. This unique, dedicated service for men is an initiative of the Commonwealth Department of Social Services. It was launched in September 2001. Read. The. Sentence. After. This is where you go ''I am wrong''. https://www.mensline.org.au/about-us/about-mensline-australia
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:19 AM
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Okay, so you think men want waitresses and are choosing doctors. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:14 AM
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Yes. There are statistical differences, but the study referred to in the article I linked (which is the most comprehensive one thus far in terms of sample size) indicates that only 8% have what could be categorised as a stereotypically ''male'' brain structure or a ''female'' brain structure. In other words, our brains are complex and a little bit gender fluid. There's a lot of overlap. Neuroscience has been hampered a ton by taking a ''male brain'' and a ''female brain'' as a foregone conclusio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:48 AM
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I think there's just a different name for it in the US. Pharmacists, doctors etc are all also Justices of the Peace, here. ''High status'' professions that serve the community.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:41 AM
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where are you getting the idea that RPs are equating 'low level IT' to 'JD lawyers' ? From where they all thought 100k was an extremely high salary in multiple threads. it only makes sense to compare similar paying jobs or jobs that require comparable education. Yes, which is why IT guys here need to stop assuming that they're 'elites'. The senior on-site tech guys (hardware) have internal job grades which indicate a pay level around 6 figures at the large asset management firm where I work. Rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:37 AM
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Might as well just leave, you can't try and dismantle my argument by moving goalposts. You're bad at this. No. I have always also been talking about roles. That is what I was saying above. Jesus fuck, learn to read. The passenger isn't actually doing anything to the driver, he's requesting that the driver does something to him. No. He is requesting that the driver do something for him -- not to him. Is a man who asks a woman to make him a sammich passive because she's the one making the sandwich…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:23 AM
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I am glad you are capable of appreciating hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:22 AM
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Right, so men give a fuck. Women who are fucking these dudes don't. No need to ask a ONS about their political orientation or their chauvinism. Just get your kicks and go.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:22 AM
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Your bias is clearly out of date. There are tons of huge tech firms in San Francisco (Cisco, Riverbed, Salesforce, Adobe), Seattle (Microsoft, Google, Amazon), and Austin (Dell, IBM, Oracle), just to name a few. Sure. This is not ''tons'' of ''huge tech firms''. It is a few -- the ones you named and then mid-tiers. There aren't tons of huge tech firms anywhere and Silicon Valley still has more firms then the places you mentioned. Elite IT roles at tech start-ups are rare (they're a tiny % of rol…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:21 AM
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So you recognize there are inherent differences in men and women that are not the fault of anyone, right? Yes. Men are physically larger, faster, stronger, more likely to take risks, dominant. Women are smaller, weaker, generally reserved, submissive. No. Agree with ''men are physically larger''. Men are, however, slower (esp in terms of thought process, men are less adaptable), less flexible, and more likely to take poorly calculated risks in order to assert dominance, and more likely to be 'st…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:16 AM
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Yes, many IT people have PhDs (many of those PhDs are not in comp sci, however). But the vast majority of techies do not. I am talking about status generally, not status in relation to SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:12 AM
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No, it does. It is a hotline for both abusers and victims. Read the page, legit. There's an info sheet on how to know whether you're being abused. Google. I have given you names. I cbf linking (esp when you provided a link already). On-line is a govt Corp and Men'sline is an initiative of The Commonwealth Dept of Social and Security services... Stop talking out of your ass about my country. You are dead wrong. And stop accusing me of being a feminist like it's some trump card -- it's not. I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 06:14 AM
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We were talking about lawyers, though. Not the legal industry. Paralegals and clerks are not lawyers. So no, you cannot do that. Yawn. My contention was never that the legal industry is higher status than the tech industry. It was that lawyers are higher status than IT professionals (and that is a broader designation, accounting for lower end roles. Paralegals are still legal professionals, for example. That said, a career paralegals can easily make over 6 figures. The same can't be said for a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 06:03 AM
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It wasn't a bragging attempt. If you accuse me of whining when I've got no reason to whine, I will tell you that. No you're comparing top tech to mid tier plus law, without even realising it. Silicon Valley is one place and an anomaly. Most of the tech jobs are contract or outsourced to foreign labourers these days. It's not really an amazing industry to be in, apart from at the apex. There are more jobs in law but also stronger competition for them (more grads). If you're tenacious, you'll succ…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:55 AM
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Mate that first link is about a service for specifically male victims in WA. Read it. It's called the 'Men's Domestic Violence Hotline'. Nationally there is a crisis line called 'Mensline'. SAMSSA in the ACT and parts of NSW. Open your fucking eyes. The lack of specific services you are going on about is not real -- not in Aus, anyway. You can be privileged and have issues. It happens all the time. Some issues are created by privilege itself (ennui, high expectations). These issues are not disad…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:49 AM
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Well, I mean I likely outearn many of the techies at PPD and I'm 24, so I'm not whining. Status and education are tied together. How hard it is to do something determines how much respect it accrues. If you have to work for 7 years, bare minimum, to work in a field, it's going to be high status. If there are few formal barriers to entry to a field, it will not be viewed as high status until you are at the apex and have proven yourself. You keep comparing silicon Valley tech with general law and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:39 AM
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Wtf. I have seen plenty of hot cleaners. Many women would prefer to clean than to strip PR waitress -- less degrading in terms of customer interaction, even if more 'gross'. Again, even re: waitresses, there's a Cafe or two at most hospitals. Why are the doctor's not wifing up these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:34 AM
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Yes, of course attractiveness and proximity matter. But pointing to Drs and nurses as an example of men not caring about education is off point. Would a hot cleaner and a hot nurse be regarded equally? I doubt it. Lots of cleaners at hospitals -- how come the health professionals aren't marrying them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:25 AM
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For me it was how I dealt with my rape trauma. I wanted to punish all men. It was a phase -- lasted about 6 months -- and then I stopped. Lots of carnage, though. Very needy. About me satisfying my urge for destruction and venting. No, I did not seem predatory, for the most part. I was soft and feminine and caring. Nurturing but unavailable (you don't have to ask a man for his time when you're like this. They give you their time, willingly). The point of it is that they can't tell. I seemed unca…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:23 AM
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There are state govt hotline for DV and male victims of sexual assault here. I don't know where you got that from. Source, please? It is inaccpurate, however. Again, no. I am not and have never been saying men don't have issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:13 AM
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It's not statistically accurate (esp because most doctors don't work at hospitals for long periods, so the ones who don't do that won't be as visible). Besides which, nurses are educated women. Less educated than doctors, but still, they have degrees etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:11 AM
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If you are comparing the apex, sure. But just general 'IT' people? No. Your average techie does not enjoy that status. I have friends who work at Google sans degreee and my father worked in software engineering for many years with degrees in pure maths, not computer science. I know what I am talking about. You do not need a specialised degree for this stuff -- just skill. Again, the fact that you need to compare the apex (post masters tech!) to the norm for law (they all have post graduate quals…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:08 AM
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Well, no. It's not. Tech is not mentioned in the same breath as medicine and law and you're a bit foolish if you can't see that. You don't even need a degree to be a coder! Masters, lmao. IT isn't really something you need to go to uni for and start ups get this -- that's why they hire based on skill. Wealth is more objectively measure, yes. That does not make it one and the same with status. The wealthy owner of a taxi fleet enjoys less status than a doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:56 AM
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Sounds to brazen to be intentional to me. Bit needy, if anything? I mean, I was manipulative myself, so I have encountered it. I used to do my utmost to make people fall in love (I was better at it than these girls tbh) and then ghost. Interestingly, I kind of wound up doing the same thing even when it wasn't intentional because to an extent that is just how I am. I like to get to know people and I like my space.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:52 AM
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Google/Facebook is the cream of the IT crop. There are way more people in corporate and policy positions that are viewed with the same amount of status. That is not even a super, super prestigious firm. So you're looking at all of top tier and some of mid tier being the same as the very apex of IT. Honestly I don't doubt the work culture is better (Big Law is atrocious), but the prestige has little to do with that. I do doubt the money is the same/better, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:44 AM
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Dem judges awarding 100% of a man's salary to his wife. Happens every day. Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:41 AM
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Money, though. The Times would pay well. I've seen it a lot -- experts producing clickbait. It's a bit sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:40 AM
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Ooft. Burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:33 AM
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Doctors do not en masses marry nurses. In fact, given exposure, this happens incredibly rarely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:30 AM
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Yes, absolutely. A lawyer earning 80k and an IT professional earning 80k have different status (esp public defenders -- these are coveted roles, tbh). It's because, again, there is a perceived pedigree to a legal education. It takes longer to acquire (post graduate quals generally). There are more duties to the community. RPers don't get status. They think it's 100% about wealth and it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:29 AM
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...he didn't say lawyers had to be making 500k/year to enjoy that status. You get a lot out of the 'pedigreee' of your education in terms of status. IT and law are not viewed in the same way, that's all. And no one makes that kind of money in IT unless they are an entrepreneur. That's nobody's salary after a few promotions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:26 AM
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Or is a migrant establishing herself in a new place before moving on to a less transient form of labour! But absolutely, yeah (barring career hospitality waitstaff at high end restaurants - this is a bit different in Aus tho, because ppl make good money doing that here and I'm not sure the same can be said stateside)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:22 AM
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Well, that's basically what this thread is. You've seen the stats. You've heard other people talk about their preferences. But your preferences are still obviously universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:20 AM
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No, he is wrong. You are wrong, too. Source: I have been a woman unable to access benefits when I needed them (health), I fucking pay tax, too and my $$ are funding social welfare programs every bit as much as men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:19 AM
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In terms of status, they are not at all the same thing, even if they are in terms of income. Status and income are not related as thoroughly as RPers think. Law requires a higher level of education, generally speaking (JD), lawyers are automatically Justices of the Peace, owe certain duties to the community etc in the same way that Doctors do. This is not true for people in IT.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:14 AM
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Okay. Are you a victim of the Duluth model? I've worked in DV, with Duluth as a blueprint, it's not used the way MRAs claim it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:02 AM
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Yep. Birds of a feather.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:00 AM
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So you like dumb chicks and therefore think everyone does? Sounds about right
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:00 AM
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Yeah this. All these idiots talking about how they'd rather date a carefree waitress are exhausting. Waitressing is every bit as stressful as law. The guys on this sub are IT dudes who think they are the equivalent of doctors/lawyers etc. They're not, really, and it's why they're so willing to 'marry down'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:58 AM
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Most guys say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:54 AM
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Men have choices, too. It is not similar to employment. And if it were men would be the employers because they tend to be the one 'paying' for women's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:53 AM
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Men have choices, too. It is not similar to employment. And if it were men would be the employers because they tend to be the one 'paying' for women's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:53 AM
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Men have choices, too. It is not similar to employment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:53 AM
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It is a blueprint. No one is applying it in its 70s incarnation. Tbh the part of it that has kept it around is the focus on getting the victim out of a dangerous situation stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:43 AM
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Therefore, as with yet another of these issues (just like custody) -- men don't want a 'privilege' women have, because they can see how it's not actually an advantaged position to be in and dislike childcare. MRAs. No idea what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:41 AM
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It's because compulsory paternity leave is the obvious answer to workplace inequality, tbh. If men and women both take the same amount of time off to spend with their kids (and they should! Fathers are important to kids and the burden of labour should not fall squarely on the woman) then employers lose a lot of their reason for discriminating against women (she might have a baby and take time off etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:38 AM
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Dis alpha submission. Laaadiessss. Submit to men, it's how to really be a badass!! Really. Ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:25 AM
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Are you genuinely calling the US Census unreliable data? Because tbh, at that point, what would be reliable data for you? On what falsifiable, airtight evidence are you staking your assertions about 'women in poverty mostly being a phenomenon in rural India'? Is it as comprehensive as the Census? Does it contradict the census numbers? It's fun to nitpick, but sugary honey glazed bunny man of mine, your attempt to dismiss real, solid data here is misguided unless you have a source (as reliable an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:13 AM
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Lmao whut. Are you fucking serious with this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:10 AM
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That wasn't the point. The point was that they get the most annoyed about women initiating. And yeah, I'd have thought it was obvious, but the whole 'real men can handle a woman approaching them!' thing is bull unless you're in specific alt scenes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:10 AM
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Attracted by and aroused by can be used interchangeably in a sexual context, tbh. I understand what you are saying. A man can find a woman very attractive and not be aroused by her if he doesn't feel manly in his interactions with her. It's the same thing. I am saying this happens because she fucks up girl game. Because yes, there is stuff we do to make men feel manly. They don't get there all by themselves, no women are not entirely passive, you've just overlooked what they're doing as most men…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:03 AM
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Um, no. Canada addresses both women's issues and native people's issues far better than the US. Look at your own country's track record with indigenous people. The US pays lip service to women's issues but does little to enforce them or legislate in relation to them (American women are probably the only women in the 1st world with such a rough time accessing abortion and birth control, for example). No. It is not akin to that at all. I am saying men have unique issues. These issues are not disad…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 12:55 AM
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Well anyone who sees a psych or goes to rehab is in a database, private or public. The point isn't about what gets recorded. It's about people's access to care. Drugs and alcohol are not a problem unless they are ruining you, tbh, and a big part of that ruin is the financial destitution not just the 'addiction' itself. The 'ennui' created by having too many opportunities and the stress of being expected to achieve are not really diasadvantages as such. They do not create depression etc (the stud…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 12:48 AM
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Well that's a nice way for you to take it, but it's not what I said. Nor is any of the tosh you're spouting what I said. So. Continue to argue with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 12:45 AM
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Lmao. Mystery solved. (also you are obviously a feminist SJW, because all women with blue hair are).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:21 PM
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Scroll. The link has been posted multiple times in this thread, sugar tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:17 PM
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Not more prone to taking risks, more likely to accept additional risk for a financial benefit. We're talking about jobs here. Well I gave you examples where men are not ''accepting additional risk for financial benefit'' and are still dying or being sued at higher %s (male drivers, male doctors and lawyers). Men are more prone to risk-taking behaviour. Combine this with a dangerous workplace environment and more men will die than women. Seems obvious to me. Women's work is equally dangerous, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 07:00 PM
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Well, yeah, I said ''intentional'' for a reason. No one is trying to do anything in those situations -- everyone's just doing them, for the most part. : After the sex "yeah...and my boyfriend is such a moron, ugh and I'm such a good loyal girlfriend to him." [just found out she had a boyfriend, just found out she thinks that she's a good loyal girlfriend to him] This is just dumb, not manipulative, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:55 PM
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otherwise you're reducing my definition of 'passive' to unconscious, or dead, No, I am not. An agent performs an action or exerts power. In the scenario you are describing, both the driver and the passenger are agents. Neither are passive. Breathing has nothing to do with anything. That is a strawman. I'm talking about roles, one is active and one is passive. Y So am I. Neither is passive. Both are active. (If anything, I would say that the driver is more passive -- exerts less power in the inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:52 PM
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'The Alpha Female's Guide to Men & Marriage' tells women to reject feminism, and be "more soft, feminine and receptive to rougher male energy." Sounds alpha to me. The docile alpha, makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:40 PM
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because it's like 'oh you want to keep things casual, I'll keep it real fucken casual, chica...' But that's probably me in my own head. Right. No, this is exactly what it reads like & it reads like a ''game'' and is also an unreliable lay. Too much exhaustion (from uncertainty, trying to work out what is and isn't acceptable to say etc). The whole interaction is way too indirect. This one is for the ladies with commitment issues so bad they tell everyone they just want to keep things casual even…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:35 PM
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Men are incredibly shallow. Women aren't really even people unless they're attractive. Still don't quite believe it wholesale.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:28 PM
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You're just talking about deaths, though. Injury rates are the same or similar (at least where I am). I am saying that it is likely down to men being more prone to taking risks. This is borne out everywhere (men more likely to die on the roads, men more likely to die in bar fights with other men, men more likely to get sued for misconduct/malpractice if in medicine or law etc etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:24 PM
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he's already attracted to me, we have history, and we're already drunk together...can't lose. 60% of the time it works every time. This girl likes you, though. She doesn't just want to fuck. Come on, no girl who genuinely just wants to fuck is putting up with 5 weeks of radio silence (if he's going to be a fuckbuddy, he'd better be reliable). I can see someone being ''excited'' rather than annoyed by this if they're a little bit into the guy. 'what the fuck kind of graceless, ham-fisted, manipul…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:21 PM
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A woman looks at a man and thinks that she wants to be fucked by him, I...don't think this is true. I get what you're saying, but this is not true. Women don't look at men and think that they want to be ''fucked by them'' unless they are extreme outliers. They think they'd like to see him naked/worshipping them etc. They think they'd like to kiss him. They're not thinking in terms of passivity. This is projection abt women's minds on your part. he smiles hoping that she'll accept that smile so t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:10 PM
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Yeah, for sure, I said that before I knew it was just a general company.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:53 PM
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Nurses in psych wards. Housekeeping at large hotels (esp those that go late night). Social workers (esp those working with the homeless and low SES populations). I've worked in ''high risk'' positions myself (worked with junkies and the homeless as a volunteer paralegal). I'm not sure what the point you're trying to make with that is. High risk is not just construction work and mining, tbh. Women do heaps of dangerous work. workplace accident and death statistics. I'll bet everything I own that …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:51 PM
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Yeah, well, I've yet to encounter any attractive ones (bar the one that I mentioned), so. The guys who want to get asked out are very shy, awkward types, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:48 PM
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If you see each other often enough at social events where alcohol is involved... I am hanging out with my friends. I am going dancing. I'm not just going to get drunk and go home with some dude who's not even putting in the effort to try and schedule a time for us to meet -- there are like 4 other dudes who will do that, why bother? Seems exhausting and unreliable to me. "We should be friends!" "Can you hold me?" "This is just friends." "Can you stay a little while longer and tell me more about …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:42 PM
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Sex work is dangerous because it's illegal. It is not illegal where I live. It is still dangerous. Go figure. The illegality certainly makes it more dangerous, but is not entirely why it is dangerous. They're also much less likely to be charged in the first place. Stat please? Men are very unlikely to get charged for crimes like rape and as we've seen via Brock Turner, often get very light sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:33 PM
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WHERE IN THE WORLD ARE YOU GETTING THIS? Should we do a Q4Men here about whether they like women to make the first move? Everyone I have ever met in real life. Men on reddit are not representative. I know one dude who likes this who is not an awkward, nerdy type that nobody wants to fuck IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:30 PM
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The woman is the object (the passive one) and the man is the subject (the active one). But why? The man is also the ''object'' (of the woman's desire). She's dressing up and moving in an attractive way so that the man becomes attracted to her and acts. This doesn't negate her agency. He's moving towards her and smiling so that she'll become attracted to him and react. Each person is triggering a reaction in the other. A woman can be a completely passive object and just look nice and a guy will s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:25 PM
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Alpha. I am high dominance myself, I need a dominant partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:10 PM
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UK Legislation allows for Women's Only services and spaces. If it's a Women's Only service, makes sense that the board would be all women. No suit for discrimination would be successful in that context. (so think a Women's Legal Centre etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:09 PM
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Was it for a women's organisation? Because yeah, if the organisation is for women's shelters or is a a domestic violence or rape crisis hotline aimed at women (there are ones aimed at men!), then that will be a positive, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:06 PM
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I'm glad you're capable of laughing at yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:04 PM
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I am married. It's all g. I don't care if he's RPed, but I'm Aussie, so he didn't vote for Trump. (also who gives a fuck if it's a ONS).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:01 PM
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we just don't like it when morons with an agenda try to redefine words to suit their needs. So....you don't like yourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:00 PM
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While I agree there are hormonal (obvious, major!), physical differences, I'm iffy as to whether there is actually a ''male brain'' and a ''female brain'' as such (esp given neuroplasticity and gender fluidity -- seems like a complex Q to me). https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28582-scans-prove-theres-no-such-thing-as-a-male-or-female-brain/ So definitely not into ''blank slate'' theory, but would potentially make the ''no inherent difference'' between a male and female brain claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:57 PM
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Well, no one is saying men and women are the same. But how could we know that this isn't a result of socialisation? Surely the emerging ''cougar'' trends speak to this theory to some extent?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:54 PM
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The point is, not everyone would prefer Chez Paul over McDonald's.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:51 PM
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[other gay stuff females say xD]" suggests rarity to me. Men say these things too, ime! I think people tend to fall in love with ''impressions'' of each other -- not lists of qualities. The love thing is ''rarity'' but it's not about anything concrete my husband has done, you know. It's definitely not supply/demand. Idk. There are a load of dudes out there who are adorable who I could fall in love with, but for some reason, I didn't. I fell in love with this dude, so shrug. So what? If she's chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:49 PM
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Lolwhut. Makes no sense. If it's a choice between being pumped and dumped by you (RPers aren't offering commitment, right? The nerdy dudes have rebelled) and being pumped and dumped by Chad, why shouldn't she choose Chad? You're all fuckboys, might as well go for the hottest one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:43 PM
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The man is still the active one in the dynamic, the woman is just being proactive in rendering herself as a more attractive object. I really don't get this. Dude is standing still, looking. Woman is dressed up, moving in a suggestive way & dude is the active one? He's not. You're forcing a situation to fit a foregone conclusion, tbh. She is active at this stage, he is passive. That switches when he approaches and she becomes the ''respondent''. The woman doesn't actually need to seduce the man f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:39 PM
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ou should see them light up. They absolutely LOVE guys spending $100 a plate on them (even if they won't fuck that guy later). So they like the money not the food? Even as someone who has grown up with fine dining, sometimes I prefer fast food in terms of taste. Not everyone is ''down'' for goat's yoghurt and shiso for dessert or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:25 PM
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It's because we're all blue-haired outliers, doncha know, AtlasB? Also lying to keep the ''nice guys'' from understanding who they need to look like to get puss. Obviously. Outliers & female conspiracists, the lot of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:21 PM
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Nah, I don't think that's necessarily true. Not a problem if it is for me, though, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:17 PM
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it just sounds like work wear to me. Yeah. Semi-formal office workwear. Business casual! Haha, is that mostly exciting because the guys are on a motorcycle, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:17 PM
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Well, yeah, for sure. I'm just saying as someone who always brings this up (god, I'm terrifying) -- it hasn't been something most dudes have been interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:15 PM
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but all dick isn't equally valuable, o Yeah, sure. I just think as a general principle, dick is not that valuable and it applies even to the more ''valuable'' dick. Pussy is not all equally valuable either. So assume that people are playing in ''leagues'' of a sort. yes, I think 'love' is just the function of 'wow this one is RARE, I better hang on.' It's not. Like I said, I don't think it's based on ''qualities'' it's based on inexplicable other shit. Like, I don't ''love'' my husband because h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:12 PM
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I mean, idk, I'd peg a dude -- but not that many of my male partners have asked me to do that to them. It seems to be a hard limit/no fo most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:01 PM
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Don't get hung up too much on the idea of active being somehow superior to passive. I'm not. I'm just saying -- who is really ''active'' and who is ''passive'' in that situation? If you don't approach it with ''gender roles'' blinders on it's fairly obvious that the woman is the active one and the man is the passive one. Try and think of it in an abstract way. It's about the man turning on the woman enough for her to have sex with him, that's all I'm meaning by seduction. Woman is doing the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:01 PM
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I've tagged some bodacious babes in my day but I'm not so unrealistic to say 'yeah, and one just as good as you in about a week will come my way if I try.' Now, given a longer period of time...? Yeah, sure. I ballparked several weeks! Haha. There was timeframe. But again -- dick is abundant and low value. Pussy isn't (sorry --men just find women more essential than women find men & are more easily swayed by the lure of sex with a partner). And so, you are in a different position to me. If it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:48 PM
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Well, it should. Menshealth should tell its readers to dump people who don't do the sex things they want to. (might this be because men care less about sex toy use in the bedroom than women? I think it might be...)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:43 PM
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I think there's a presumption that it matters to the woman in question, tbh. Not many people who give no fucks about vibrators are gonna be finding their way to that article.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:29 PM
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Trump is pretty dismissive of women's issues (eg pay gap), so again, I don't think this is true. In his official position as a member of government.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:29 PM
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That is poorly worded. Srry. But the point stands. Do you clutch your keys when walking late at night due to fear of sexual assault? Compassionate there, also sources? Cbf. Look it up yourself (it's even in posts here, so scroll). But yes, comparative to the no. of people living in poverty, the no. of people who are homeless is small. Substance abuse is often a cause of homelessness. Addictive disorders disrupt relationships with family and friends and often cause people to lose their jobs. For …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:27 PM
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That is poorly worded. Srry. But the point stands. Do you clutch your keys when walking late at night due to fear of sexual assault? Compassionate there, also sources? Cbf. Look it up yourself (it's even in posts here, so scroll). But yes, comparative to the no. of people living in poverty, the no. of people who are homeless is small. Substance abuse is often a cause of homelessness. Addictive disorders disrupt relationships with family and friends and often cause people to lose their jobs. For …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:27 PM
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mega fat slob Judgemental af. Why do you need to speak about her like this, even if she is unhealthy and morbidly obese? Just move on. You don't have to like everything you see. Your boner is not the dictator of aesthetic and style. Get over it. Your condemnation of the average man is EVEN MORE telling How?! Mate, it's hardly like I'm Tess Holliday. You can't be ''excessively hypergamous'' tho. If you can get it, you can get it. It's not ''excessive'' -- it just is. Women don't have to fuck you …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:18 PM
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Cool, so don't make that about female arousal, then (which you did initially. I largely agree with you about actual fucking, but arousal is different). from what you described as first being noticed to putting on the final moves Lol, men noticing women in sexy outfits is hardly male seduction. Come, now. She puts on a skimpy dress and struts around in front of you, you look and you call yourself the 'seducer'? How do you slice this? Regardless how abstract you get this is weird. She is seducing …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:13 PM
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Reread what I wrote, I did not say that. Really?! If you thought I was being serious in a post where I used the word ''factoids'' you really are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:11 PM
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How the fuck does this: 'I still don't think men are experiencing disadvantage' Mean this: 'a rich woman and a poor woman are equally privileged' What the actual fuck?! These are complete unrelated statements, bro. Please stop putting words in my mouth based on your bizarre extrapolations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:44 PM
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What you said above is just not true. There are clear links between mental illness and poverty. Many mental illnesses are created by situation. People living in poverty have more reasons to be anxious, depressed etc. Where is your quote?! You have not quoted me saying otherwise because I didn't. You've just been unable to follow the distinctions I'm making and are upset about nothing. The rich have fewer unchecked issues with addiction due to access to care and rehab. And the thing which makes a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:42 PM
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I don't think 'seduction' and initiation are the same thing. Besides, my point is that female arousal is independent of male seduction. It's fairly diffuse (women get turned on by a greater range of stimuli than men, research has borne this out). It's got little to do with what actually results in fucking. I would maintain that passivity is largely about not wanting to be seen as a slut (from what I have seen and heard and what I do myself). Female sexuality is reactive in many ways -- but it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:36 PM
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People laugh about sexual assault all the time. Not gone in a second. Trump is president of the US. Joked about sexual assault. Not sure your argument holds water.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:33 PM
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Idk how all of these people aren't winding up single because their wives and gfs died from rolling their eyes too hard. It is the greatest mystery of RP to me, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:31 PM
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What do you think is the major cultural difference between Canada and the US? Out of curiosity. Why is it that you think women could plausibly be invisibly homeless in Canada but not in the US? Please show me exactly where I said women had no power. Because I didn't. I'm not going to bother to engage with you if you continually put words in my mouth -- you may as well argue with yourself, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:27 PM
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Yeah but if it's important to you, it's important to you. Imagine if a woman wouldn't give you blow jobs -- for some women, this might feel exactly like that. No one's asking for 100%, but if there's an act you can't live without and your partner won't do it, walk. It's the obvious thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:25 PM
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Yes. You have sourced factoids about how delusional I am. Fo sure. You are such a rational male.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:23 PM
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As far as women go they are far from being invisible. If anything they are more visible than that of men are. No, I am talking about the women that you can't see, because they don't go to ''shelters'' and aren't on the streets. Women are absolutely the invisible homeless. No one would think women are homeless at the rates they are. http://homelesshub.ca/resource/43-making-invisible-visible-canadian-women-homelessness-and-health-outside-big-city http://www.newsday.com/news/region-state/gillibrand…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:54 AM
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In parentheses. So what. This is literally black and white thinking and that the all s No, it's not black and white thinking. It's about tracing a cause to its root. The wealth is not the cause for the mental illness. The mental illness is the cause of the disadvantage, not the wealth. You do not have to needlessly conflate things to not think in black and white. I would have said one that is wealth isn't disadvantage because of their wealth but are disadvantaged because they are mentally ill. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:44 AM
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If that was the case she would never get fired, nor would any CEO would be. No, this doesn't follow. Just because you can get fired, does not mean that you do not have a powerful voice. Again, Presidents etc. Your position doesn't have to be perennial for you to be in a position of power. Doesn't mean CEO's have major voice on the board. Generally it does. The person who ''leads'' the conversation usually shapes it. This means that they control who talks and when, the structure of the meeting et…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:39 AM
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Broken nose (hawt), lack of grooming (but not hygiene), smoker (this is not a flaw, but people online always say it's a dealbreaker, so), scars, skinny, little bit of chub (''bear'' type body). I fucking love skinny dudes as long as there's some wire to them. It's actually my preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:24 AM
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Whatta flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:21 AM
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we don't have the same definitions for each term. Truth. To be fair, though, this is because RP has decided to use bizarrely melodramatic language for perfectly normal things a lot of the time. Like why must we call ''being normal and not irrationally emo'' ''holding frame''? Why?! It's just confusing!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:20 AM
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if a guy is nice and is rejected by women, he must actually be a manipulator or have ill-intentions. well no, it's not identical at all, because that guy isn't actually nice. If a guy is nice and is rejected by women, then I'll assume that he's unattractive in some way that is making women reject him. But I do think the majority of dudes claiming to be ''nice'' on the internet and IRL are not actually nice. This is just my experience. They're awful people who ''supplicate'' because they feel lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:18 AM
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And if you didn't want to & that was important to him, it would be totally legit grounds for walking! Idk why people around here think you should stay with partners who don't like what you like sexually. It's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:10 AM
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People also buy it to laugh at it and to perv on hot new styles etc. It's like, men aren't buying Playboy for the quality articles (altho maybe they should be because Playboy has quite a few).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:08 AM
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It is definitely a Thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:07 AM
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, you're likely incompatible and it's probably best to go your own ways. i think this is true for most sexual situations/relationships, if not all. someone feeling truly threatened by a vibrator or toy like that is also a red flag, IMO. Yep. The ''vibrator'' title is just clickbait.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:07 AM
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No, lol. Cosmo sex advice has always been mocked for being off-base among the women I know, even when I was a teen. Altho, tbf, if a woman wants to use a vibe during sex and a guy doesn't, that could be cause for a dumping. It's a sign that they're incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:07 AM
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20yos are women. How old are you?!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:04 AM
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Do you wish you had married the first person you had sex with? No, because I am happy that I married the person I married. If you had, what do you think your relationship would be like now? Lovely. If we had worked through the intense roadblocks we experienced (my sexual assault, his financial insecurity, my bipolar disorder emerging in my twenties etc) we would have had a pretty great marriage. We were in fact engaged and very much planning to be married when I had graduated Uni & we were both …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:52 AM
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the bloopy guys I see here are just jeans and a T-shirt. Where? It's not like you can ''see'' people on the internet? Hubby used to dress like a 'dirty hipster' -- very fashionable, although he never thought it was. A jacket, slacks and a collared shirt is as boring as jeans and a t-shirt, it's just more ''professional''. Most of my friends switch between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:23 AM
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We don't even have anything remotely accurate of a count on homeless people. Kids alone make up 1.4 Million to 2.5 Million of the homeless. And that is of the kids that can be counted for. Yes, so adult men are not the ''whole'' of the homeless as you have bizarrely been trying to assert here. Women are the ''invisible'' homeless (shunted between friends, often living in shelters, hiding during the day), on top of this. I was leaving well alone with that claim, but the whole ''men are the majori…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:16 AM
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Doesn't prove there is more mental illness amongst the wealthy than the homeless. I said some types of mental illness. Can you read? I didn't say that there was more mental illness amongst the wealthy than amongst the homeless overall. My god. Congrats you just contradicted yourself. HOW? You seem to really struggle with the idea that someone can be advantaged and disadvantaged at once. It is possible. Me saying ''the mentally ill as a group are disadvantaged'' ''the wealthy as a group are not d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:04 AM
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Why am I not surprised? If you actually look at economics you would see otherwise. Doubt it. Addiction is a huge reason for homelessness in the US and other Western countries. Stats bear this out. But please, enlighten me as to the true 'economic' reason for homelessness. Clearly they aren't disadvantage at all, but a woman in poverty is clearly is. Well, given the fact that the majority of those women are in single mother households + seem to have a partner who pays little alimony, seems to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:04 AM
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You think Marissa Mayer can tell what the board of directors what is up and dictate things? lol. No. This does not mean she does not hold significant sway. Not really. Yes, really. Have you ever been in a board meeting? They are literally lead by the CEO. And guess what is happening in the US as we speak? Nothing that suggests the President doesn't have power. One I do get that, I think your the one that doesn't. No, I am not. You don't understand corporate governance and structures -- this is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:00 AM
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Do you even have any clue what a CEO does or do? Honestly do you? Because yes, a CEO is going to have a lot of say in what direction the media takes. Not all of the say. But they are a major voice on the board, they tend to have lobbying power etc. Saying a CEO has no power in a company because they don't make decisions unilaterally is like saying the President of the US has no power because hey, the Senate exists and so do voters. CEOs are usually viewed as representative of the company (legall…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 07:18 AM
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oliticians, male or female, are overwhelmingly biased towards women, They do not pander towards women. They pander towards their electorate. Men (paternalistic types) are very much a part of this pandering. Also, please show me stats about how politicians don't have ''in-group bias'' that are in any way reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 07:15 AM
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have it easier in a number of wa This is not what privilege is. The fundamental issue here is that you dudes just refuse to understand what privilege is. This is why no one says children are ''privileged'' even tho they have it easier than adults. Or why no one says ''welfare recipients'' are privileged, even though they have it 'easier' then people who work in some senses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 07:14 AM
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No, because by the time you hit about 25 you stop being super impressionable. It'd be easier to do this to a 16yo than a 20yo. That's why age differences in dating cease to matter when both parties are older. A 25yo and a 45yo is whatever, but a 19yo and a 40yo will raise eyebrows. I am cool tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 07:10 AM
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I've read the article it links too, and in no way does it show that women control most wealth. It says it's true and then moves on. Every other source I look at shows that women make less money and have less wealth then men. How do women control more wealth then men? It's because women spend their husbands' money. Like, women do the vast majority of the grocery shopping, book drs appts for kids etc and this study equates this 'spending' with ''control''. It's laughable. No, women do not ''contro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 07:07 AM
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Id wonder how many of that percentage are the stay at home component of a poor household. The vast majority of households in poverty in the US are households headed by single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 07:06 AM
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Lmao. I am the only person here who has ever been involved in assisting the homeless, would wager. I care about homelessness. It's an issue that is tied up, inextricably, with addiction. It's not about ''being a man'' or a uniquely male disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 07:04 AM
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Maybe that's true in rural India, but in the west, the poorer you are, the less likely you are to be female. Not according to the US Census, babe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 07:03 AM
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No, I think homelessness amongst men is often the result of addiction issues. And I'm not sure that can be characterised as ''disadvantage''. (although it is a tragedy and an issue that needs to be addressed). A rich women has more privilege than a poor woman does. I Yes, obviously. I've said nothing to contradict this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 07:01 AM
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You only think that because you live in MRA la la land. Delusional people tend to call other people delusional. (Do you see how idiotic this form of arguing is? I hope you do, mate -- if you don't you're probably just psychotic. Get thee to some seroquel, stat!).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 07:00 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15500299 -- bipolar disorder is well-known to be more prevalent among the wealthy. Esp in its ''lithium responsive'' form (ie the form where it is clearly neurobiological and not overlapping with borderline personality disorder or other situational issues, generally bipolar disorder type 1). Because even when you have mental issues you aren't disadvantage Well, yes, you are. The world is set up to be navigated by people without mental illnesses. You are at a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:56 AM
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Because psychological manipulation always works better on young people (who don't know their own worth and are 'inexperienced' re what's normal). Give me a 20yo man or woman and, even at 24, I will easily be able to screw with their heads should I want to. Both will be desperate for my approval as I'm 'cooler' and 'older'.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:50 AM
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Flirting with other ppl is natural and can't be helped. Flirting with other people specifically to elicit a certain reaction from your spouse? Manipulative af. And there'll be a difference between the ''level'' of flirtation and how disrespectful it is. There's a difference between just pleasantly bantering with a waitress vs saying, ''my god, you are so beautiful!'' to her in front of your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:47 AM
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Nah, this isn't true. BPers just think ''shit tests'' are normal banter (they are! Wtf, all of these things I've seen described as shit tests are just standard conversation, except for the bizarre manipulative ''am I pretty tho?'' stuff). Dread game in its innocuous form = just working out and having a life, which BPers tend to be cool with. Holding frame = just having a moral centre and not being overly desperate to please. These things don't ''exist'' as described by RP. Why the fuck have peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:45 AM
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Lmao, so you have had relationships that lasted 3 weeks-ish and a relationship that lasted 6 months and are now presuming to know what works in a LTR? 6 months is still the honeymoon phase, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:42 AM
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manosphere bitchfits Perfect description of these dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:41 AM
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Lol, despite me explicitly saying they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:36 AM
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Yeah, whatever, of course -- anyone is justified in opting out of love and relationships. Just don't expect anyone else to care because they won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:52 AM
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Well, it's not. Because everyone is looking relative to them, right? So when another woman says, ''I can catch a dick anytime'' she's talking in relation to her own standard (which is not mine). The thing is, if you can attract one high quality man, you can likely attract another. This is just true, it's not some bizarre ''women are being up themselves'' thing. The same goes for men -- if you can get one hot lady, you can probably get another. (also I do not run in social circles of the 'elite' …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:47 AM
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Far more men are homeless than women in poverty least US wise. Stats. This is bullshit. Way fewer people are homeless than live in poverty in the US. Women have more economic power Bullshit again. Consumer power does not = control. Why you keep pretending this, I don't know. Your black and white thinking is laughable. I bet you're going to tell me again that ''women spend their husbands' money, therefore women have economic control'' which is...uhuh. Yep, children spend the pocket money their pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:43 AM
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Men are more likely to be homeless But why? Is it because they're men? There's more mental illness (of some kinds) amongst the wealthy. This is not because they are wealthy and does not speak to a wealth disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:40 AM
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I was being sarcastic in that first sentence. Shoulda but 'disadvantaged' in quotation marks. All rich people are privileged. ''Wealth'' is not a disadvantaged position, however. Of course, intersectionality (so a mentally ill/disabled rich person might experience disadvantage down that axis. But not because they're wealthy).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:39 AM
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I think they've got issues. Unique challenges. Not disadvantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:37 AM
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A CEO has less agency than that of a welfare recipient. A CEO is held accountable for the whole company (a lot of companies are public). As such they answer to the board and that the stockholders. They also have to watch their public image as well as one wrong thing and its online and under the lime light. Just look at what happen to the now ex CEO of Uber with the video that went viral. A welfare recipient has none of that and at best is accountable to the state/government and even then the ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:37 AM
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DV is the leading cause of death for young women in my country. 1 woman a week is killed by a male partner. Men experience sexual assault with far greater frequency. When you're walking at night, do you clutch your keys/card, worried that someone is going to sexually assault you? -- that's male privilege. homelessness less Women live in poverty in far greater numbers than men. Homelessness rates are teeny tiny, and usually the result of addiction -- we do need to ask why more men are ''risk-take…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:31 AM
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women don't like the active role in ordinary sex This has nothing to do with taking the ''active role'' in ordinary sex. You've absolutely misunderstood what I've said. This has to do with taking the passive role in ordinary sex -- ie transforming oneself into an object of desire. But that has little to do with ''seduction'' and the turn-on is about the positioning of the self, not the actions of the man. It's like...girls can turn themselves on by wearing short skirts and waltzing around night …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:26 AM
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i'm not the one making delusional claims. But you are tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:23 AM
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Idk. Tess Holliday isn't 'normal' imo but she is beautiful (facial aesthetics). Shit tons of men are into fat ladies (as a preference), and this is not the same re: women and fat men. Also idk why people need to call her ''morbidly obese'' and unhealthy and diss her. Not your cup of tea, just move on. I've never seen ''fit'' guys get devalued, but your use of ''average/fit'' is telling. The average guy is not fit or attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:23 AM
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Dangerous professions? Do you mean mining & construction? Because sex work is overwhelmingly female, a huge industry and very dangerous. It always gets overlooked in these conversations. The % of the homeless vs the % of those living in poverty is pretty radically different (way more people living in poverty than homeless), but of course, men choose to always focus on the poverty aspect. Men commit more violent crime than women. This has always been true. I'm not sure why % of each gender in pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:20 AM
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And why is that? What part of the definition of "privilege" excludes dating life? Privilege is about structures of power. Your dating life is rarely about structures of power. It can be -- but it's not for the most part. Yeah and the fact that the biggest thing feminists complain about is manspreading is also telling. I am not a feminist & I also think this is telling and stupid. You don't have the power of choice, you only have... the power to choose the best option out of everything available.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:18 AM
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The US Census -- look it up. I've linked it multiple times here, I'm tired of doing it when it is a so easily sourced stat. In 2015, 12.2 percent of males were in poverty, down from 13.4 percent in 2014. About 14.8 percent of females were in poverty in 2015, down from 16.1 percent in 2014. (See Table 3 in the report.) Gender differences in poverty rates were more pronounced for those ages 18 to 64. The poverty rate for women ages 18 to 64 was 14.2 percent while the poverty rate for men ages 18 t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:00 AM
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Lmao, what. No this is not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:28 AM
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Lmao, what. No this is not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:28 AM
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Omg no, mate, this is also a sign of crazy ime (with men and women!). It's a normal thing to think but not a normal thing to say -- fishing for compliments, insecure etc You like crazies so you're going to get this, but I don't think normal dudes are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:26 AM
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No you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:21 AM
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I thought it was that classic 'I'm famous now and I dream of fucked up famous people things, look at me' thing that musicians do. Idk if I believe that you're not interesting. You're a total bizarro (I say this affectionately!) even at PPD, so. I mean I get it. I like having people obsessed with me, just not if I have to deal with them up close.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:20 AM
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Explain why you think they are not and I will engage. Too many MRAs rely on skewed evidence or focus on an overly narrow set of issues. Women remain in poverty in far greater numbers than men. Men remain dominant in all power positions (legislature, judiciary). Men on the internet talk about the 'privilege' experienced by women who marry and divorce, stay at home mother's etc (basically domestic angel archetype) -- but that is not 'all women' and is a limited, contingent privilege anyway. Most w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:15 AM
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Nah, I'm familiar with all of the arguments and I don't deny that there are issues but re: privilege and disadvantage, still don't think men are experiencing disadvantage. The issues seem to stem from an abundance of privilege (as with rich people and mental health -- it's literally the same thing for men: 'too many expectations')
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:12 AM
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Well privilege is not about people's personal dating life, tbh. The fact that this is the greatest struggle of men's lives is telling. 'explain to me how being groomed by society to feel as if you do not have the power of choice and can only 'take the best option you can get' is privileged' A position of agency is a position of privilege, even if it feels like harder work. A welfare recipient is not more privileged than a CEO just because one does more than the other. Assumed passivity is one of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:09 AM
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Yes, but if you are for the most part 'privileged' and the downsides of your position stem from an abundance of privilege (ie too much of a good thing) it's difficult to call that 'disadvantage'. Rich people and men often have mental health issues for the same reason (the expectations are just too high!) -- but that reason is not indicative of disadvantage. It's not a poor position to be in, to be fed a narrative of yourself as someone who will, naturally, achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:05 AM
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No because the love is inexplicable and not based on qualities my husband has. It just is. That's why I said if you take that out of the equation and focus on concrete things. I could find someone with the same qualities who would want to date me within a few weeks, tho. (I'm a bit bizarre re: love, it's very tough for me to love someone). Applying statistics to this is nuts, idk why people do it. It's about your social circle and what is common for you. So, to demonstrate, my husband is 6'3, sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:00 AM
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Men are overrepresented in all positions of power (legislature, judiciary etc) and are, overwhelmingly, not the people living in poverty. 2 solid markers of privilege right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:47 AM
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Yes, but that's not what ''privilege'' is about. It's not about people having ''their own struggles''. It's about structures that advantage some and not others. You can be incredibly ''privileged'' and still experience struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:41 AM
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they need to be turned on before they can really have sex, which requires the guy to seduce her. It doesn't. There are a bizarre number of things that turn women on. And tons (tons!) of women are turned on by the thought of themselves as an ''object of desire''. This kind of thing doesn't necessarily involve what is typically thought of as ''seduction''. Women just like ''seduction'' shit so they don't feel like sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:33 AM
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Tbh, when women say they ''can catch a dick anytime'' they mean they can catch one of the dicks they want anytime. Dick is abundant and low value. Even specific kinds of dick. Most men are replaceable (like god, I adore my husband, but if there weren't that special ''love'' thing going on between us, I could definitely nab someone similar to him in a couple of weeks. And the only reason it would take a couple of weeks is because my husband is pretty incredible and there aren't too many men who f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:30 AM
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To say all rich people are privileged would mean there is no rich person disadvantaged or struggling in life, which isn't true. Rich people have greater prevalence of bipolar disorder, for example. Greater prevalence of certain kinds of addiction. Greater familial dysfunction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:21 AM
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But that is not because of the ''privileges'' available to these people -- more their ability to capitalise on those. This is like how there are a fuckton of poor white people, but that doesn't mean that white people are disadvantaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:18 AM
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No, they are. They are enjoying ''male privilege'' AKA they are more privileged than poor women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:17 AM
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I want to see MRAs complain about toxic masculinity, and protest in skirts burning their ties or something. This would be beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 04:13 PM
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They are the privileged group -- outside of MRA lala land, that is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 04:11 PM
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It's like how there are unique ''issues'' that come with being rich (alienation, greater mental health problems, less strong family structure, higher degree of nihilism). Or how there are unique ''issues'' that come with being beautiful. But I wouldn't really call those issues ''disadvantages''.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 04:05 PM
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Yeah, of course there are 'disadvantages' (I would not phrase like this, because in terms of 'privilege' men still have all of those concrete markers of it -- unique ''issues'' perhaps?) to being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 04:01 PM
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Suicidal != bad boy tho. Damaged, troubled etc. There's a reason My Chemical Romance was so popular when I was n high school. Not sure what you're referring to. I'm quoting the Drunk in Love remix I was quoting the lyrics: ''All I want to do is go on tour and drop albums'' -- always thought everything that followed up to ''models passed out in the shower'' was a fucked up aspiration. But what you said is also a possibility, lol (also not mutually exclusive -- I think he's showing off abt his biz…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 03:59 PM
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You cannot change this because it is your skeletal structure that defines this. I don't agree that you can't change it at all -- I do agree that it is significantly harder for people with that skeletal structure to look ''built'' and that it will not be a worthwhile endeavour for them. But lean muscle on a dude? Definitely hot. As hot as being ''built'' -- it's much hotter to me, personally, than barrel-chested type looks. Try telling that to people around here. I did, once. I made a comment abt…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 03:52 PM
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Women don't tend to have that saviour complex many men do. So for me it only works on crazy girls. No, they totes do! Naive ladies who want to heal the bad boy are a trope, ffs. Nah fam my dick is MDMA. Lmao. The guys who think their dick is MDMA/super-turbo-charged superpowers are a whole different kettle of fish and are almost always crazy. "my tongue made out of magic, my dick got superpowers." I always thought this was part of his ''dream'' world signalled by ''all I want to do...'' When a B…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 03:42 PM
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You can be a leanly muscled ectomorph, tho, which is pretty much as good as being ''well-built''.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 03:30 PM
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<3 Perfect response.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 03:21 PM
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Agree -- bizarrely celebratory (woo bitchesssss!) stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 03:20 PM
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Someone who can't relate to any kind of mental illness will simply not know how to respond to things like that, whereas someone who does can relate on some level and that's why it works. See, I feel like this actually works on ''naive'' men more than anything else. Men who want to ''save'' me from myself by making me happy via their dick. Because dicks are basically SSRIs according to some dudes. But the crazy people are definitely more likely to be drawn to: insomnia, mania, tales of the psych …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 03:18 PM
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I know how to seduce them (in one case talking about how I used to be suicidal legit worked as a chat up line), Well, to be fair, this works on heaps of people, even if not totally nuts. Even for women. Especially if you are frighteningly dispassionate about it. People are intrigued. it'd be pretty difficult for me to find normie girls to date tbh. I mean normie girls don't date guys like me. Self-limiting belief? Anyway, like I said, I think there are different ''kinds'' of crazy. I don't date …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 03:02 PM
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You must be endlessly patient. I like crazy people, too. But not that kind of crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 02:53 PM
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Augh. Why? It sounds exhausting. (and I kind of get the kinky thing, but I also kind of don't, because I'm fairly kinky myself and have had mad luck finding men to abuse/be abused by me IRL).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 02:44 PM
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holy fuck. your life, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 09:38 AM
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Frenemies girl is usually more subtle. She pretends to love everyone, but "this one friend, I love her but like..." (and you realise, eventually, that all of her friends, including you, are 'this one friend').
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:01 AM
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Lmao? I cry after sex if I come too much. It's a purely physical thing and is about exhaustion and joy, not trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 07:58 AM
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Yeah but there is a difference btwn the girl with a tramp stamp and the girl with her fave Disney character on her calf, tbh. Most people read these women differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 07:56 AM
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I say that I approach sex somewhat like a man just to let dudes know that I'm not going to get clingy, this doesn't mean anything and it's a-okay for them to stop panicking about me being madly in love with them and relax. It's meant kindly (also to ward against 'but will you be my girlfriend now!' situations). It's also not some statement about how awesome and shitty I am, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 07:51 AM
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No, you are. Most men are very aware that women can get someone else's dick in a snap.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 07:46 AM
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Not unless he was using it and specifically the harmful parts of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 07:44 AM
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Yeah, that's fine. But there's no need to imply that everyone who does this is just getting off on the drama. Different strokes for different folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 07:43 AM
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The man is disgusting looking. Not disgusting, imo. He's like...not amazing, but was reasonably babing before the drugs destroyed him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:59 PM
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this isn't too different than understanding situational alphas for example. Well, no, it's completely different. Because it's not like ''nice hands'' are a status marker where u/TheWalkingMenu is and that's why she likes him. This is about personal quirks in attraction, when it comes down to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:55 PM
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I do this, too. Hands and forearms. There is a certain kind of forearm on a dude that just slays me every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:54 PM
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Don't care -- why would I? I would be very surprised, though, because dude has no moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:52 PM
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Well, it's not like that's unclear when you're FWB. You know -- you are not dating that person. I think you've got ''undefined casual sex'' confused with FWB (they get used a lot interchangeably on reddit, so fair) -- the defining element of FWB is that things are properly defined. You're not dating. You are friends and you are fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:51 PM
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Do you think women are only having sex with you for validation? That your dick is this magical validation tool? This is so weird to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:49 PM
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You can think someone is ''healthy'' or that their body is ''nice'' without wanting to sleep with them. Sexual desire is specific. There's no obligation for people to fuck anyone at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:44 PM
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It really depends, I think. I mean you always have ''feelings'' for your friends. And if you're best friends, those are intense feelings. If you'd also have sex, the thing that stops you from being in a relationship is compatibility not ''lack of feelings'' or ''desire''. If you can keep sight of that compatibility issue (like me and my female best friend), then all is well. If you can't, then you shouldn't have sex even if you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:42 PM
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It doesn't have to be, though. You can define the parameters of what you want with 0 ambiguity. Situations that involve ambiguity are usually not ''FWB" -- they're casual sex that might turn into something more but neither party has made up their mind yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:39 PM
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This is true for people who probably shouldn't be having casual sex or sex with their friends (people whom they like & whom it is easy to catch feelings for). I've had a few FWB relationships where everything was amicable, altho for the most part mine have gotten a bit pushy re: exclusivity and commitment (not a big deal, though, I'd just say ''no'' and stop fucking them and we'd go back to being friends). I never did this with my male best friend b/c we both felt like it would get too intense e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:37 PM
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I am talking about trophy wives -- ie people who are called trophy wives by other people. The big distinction bt/wn 'upper class woman' and 'trophy wife' is how hot she is. My own mother gets referred to as a trophy wife fairly often, but she's not perceived that way in my parents' relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 01:53 PM
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Nah, shows how much snark I bring to the sub and that's about it. I was ironically reading you super obtusely -- the same way you did me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 01:50 PM
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Might explain it! Still think there are going to be a fair few women who are just marrying rich dudes because they want that 'traditional family' thing and places like LA are pricey. Cali is actually one of the few places in the US that is comparable to Sydney b/c of general wealth, expensive lifestyle etc. One of my best friends is from LA. Her mum is a ''trophy wife'' in some senses, but it's also very much a love thing for her parents. Think of it like this: a man can marry a very beautiful w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 11:30 PM
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Eyes, mostly I think and facial structure (obv dude already has to be good looking to get either label, so we're talking about a good looking guy here). A good looking guy who has eyes that look like they're melting or star bright (this is a thing, people who just have really soft eyes or really engaged eyes) = cutie. A good looking guy who has eyes that are a little bit...relaxed? and a strong jaw will be described as ''hot'' in the classic sense. My ''hot'' is sleepy eyes or tilted eyes, very …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 11:26 PM
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Aren't you also Aussie or do I have you confused with someone else? Well, I think you are likely seeing people's lives from the outside and missing a ton of nuance. ''Taking away the scripted drama'' is a huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 11:20 PM
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I think 2 of them given your story -- my armchair is very cushy, lmao. Tbh if you hadn't said you'd seen her manic, I would be like, 'um but is she even bipolar tho?' Triggers my factitious disorders crazy ppl warning bells if it all comes out in 5 mins -- bipolar, esp 1, is a label that smart girls with factious disorders issues really, really like to nab ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 11:01 PM
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I said 'lol' IIRC. I was laughing at the idea of all drug enthusiasts having an 'extreme substance abuse' problem, not you, anyway. That's cool. I'm not really interested in discussing neurologically based behavioural problems with someone who obviously has no idea. I get hypersexual sometimes, so I do find it pretty hilarious that someone would think a woman going to a club and picking out a dude to fuck, consistently, every weekend is 'hypersexual'. Like, fuck, if only that were the extent of …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 10:38 PM
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Yeah but like, wtf was that?! I'd say there's another diagnosis in that behaviour. It's the easy armchair diagnosis, lmao. Manic periods were basically the only periods I was motivated to date and fuck in when I was young. I think I'd still be a virgin if not for the magic of mania.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 10:32 PM
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I didn't laugh at you. But tbh I find your tendency to get dramatique about standard behaviour tiresome and difficult to respect. You're just always spinning things into more than they are: 'my wife accounts for my feelings and tastes' becomes 'my wife is under my total control, she does nothing until I tell her to' 'i know this girl who takes cocaine occasionally, goes home with dudes from clubs most weekends and otherwise seems fine' becomes 'i know this hypersexual girl with an extreme substa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 10:23 PM
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Prove them wrong in the sense that I'm not worthy of their love. That's how fucked the mindfuckery is lol. Like, I need their love. Not to give mine, but to take theirs. Lmao. I think you just described a lot of my relationships with men back when I wasn't as carefully kind. It's a weird dynamic because I'm always like: 'dude stop dis cray, you don't actually even care that much. This is just your ego.' Dudes get a bit crazy if you don't love them sometimes. Sounds like it works well for your mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 10:16 PM
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Well, yeah. If someone does a study and says they want policy to be determined as a result, then sure. No one does this, though. Jurisprudence and legislation is determined largely with regard to philosophy and morality, not science. This has always been the case, it's really weird to me that you don't understand that questions about the evolution of the law cannot be determined scientifically. Can you explain to me how you would use the scientific method to solve the following policy problems: …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 10:09 PM
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What culture differences? Tbh, I think it might just be because I grew up with this. I know a ton of women like this and they're often not gold diggers (some are, some aren't). Some are just super hot, like the traditional family model and want to give all their time to their kids + have the pragmatism to realise that kind of life is not pleasant unless you are very wealthy or live in a place where everything is cheap. The shows are very, very far from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:54 PM
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I wasn't implying that it doesn't happen at all, obviously. Just that it happens at a much slower rate and is not likely to make you cold. If I get my boobs out on a freezing street, I'll be super cold in a minute or two. My legs? It'll be a lot longer before I get uncomfortable. Short skirt + stockings + jacket + knit shirt or top with sweater + scarf = not cold. Thanks for the paper from 1925, tho, lol. I wish you'd found something from 1850 -- I've heard that's when papers were mostly likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:51 PM
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Well you just made the point you seem to hate so much seem valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:42 PM
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Well, tbh, you guys are idiots for going outside in your winter. It's fucking -8 degrees Celsius stay the fuck at home the club will wait for summer, you know? At that point, who is anyone to judge, because you're all fools. I've gone out in -2 degree ish weather tho and I maintain that a short skirt and sheer stockings is generally warmer than jeans.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:41 PM
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It's not a problem if it doesn't effect your life significantly or have a mental hold over you and it's definitely not 'extreme' lol. I know tons of people who casually 'abuse' drugs. There's nothing wrong with them. It's not some extreme problem that renders them undateable. I feel like this is the kind of thing that really sheltered ppl describe as an 'extreme substance abuse problem' -- I have seen a lot of those and it's yeah...not the same at all. Well, no, it's not a behavioural problem. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:37 PM
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I bet you did see her in her manic phases if she was fucking you, lol. People who spill all of their trauma in 5 min are a huge red flag for me. It's a really strange thing to do and the BP doesn't really explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:27 PM
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Well, unless they're getting royalties from blow jobs past or something...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:22 PM
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The shows are hyperreal, tho. Sigh. My mother is often referred to as a trophy wife in semi-jest. She loves my father very deeply. Money was important, but not the only thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:21 PM
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Why would you think someone is stupid or irresponsible because they don't trust coat check at a night club? It's not the most secure of things. Shit goes missing from those places -- I've seen it happen a million times. You check your shit, go back to get it and boom it's gone. I've accidentally left with someone else's coat from a club before realising and running back, lmao. And what if it's the kind of venue that doesn't have that facility (warehouse party, rave etc. I am not wearing a coat b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:18 PM
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Well that's really different -- they might be hitting a club later or planning to dance. Only an idiot rugs up for that kind of environment regardless of the weather outside & taking a coat to a night club is a heap of hassle. Makes it hard to dance & if you check it there's a higher chance it'll get lost. Would rather be cold for a few minutes between the door of the club and my Uber than lose an item of clothing that's $300+ Context is key. Idk why you think her standing out in a bad way is re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 03:32 PM
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White men aren't arch-villains just because they are the group most privileged by the current system. Stop trying to turn feminism into a video game, mate. All this melodrama, my God. Evil conspiracies, arch-villains! (no one thinks false rape accusations aren't immoral. Receipts, please.) And no, ffs, women aren't 'window dressing' when it comes to reinforcing the patriarchy. Ironic. Even women's role in cementing their own oppression is made invisible -- errbody knows women can't be anything b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 03:25 PM
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Something can be both a choice and a mistake. A mistake is just a choice you make in error. Think of a multiple choice exam -- Bob chooses D, but the answer is A. It is patently obvious that some choices women make about their dating life were made in error. These are mistakes. If you are unhappy that a woman is refusing to repeat her mistakes with you, date someone else. She's not obliged to have shower sex, anal etc with you. If you think a woman isn't over her ex (checking his fb etc) just do…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 03:09 PM
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Well yeah if you're not wearing a jacket, you'll be cold. But there is v little difference between wearing a miniskirt and having your legs covered even when it's very cold. Esp if you're wearing stockings, which entrap heat better than heavier fabrics like denim. Also there are drunk hoes at your grocery store? How strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:57 PM
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Oh, you're not the first. I was a virgin slut back in the day, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:48 PM
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Player has just come to mean a dude who sleeps around lots. You can do that without being sexist, for sure. It's just hedonism pure and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:45 PM
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He might not be, though. Why would any woman bother being paranoid about how her SO treats people? If he's lovely to other people when I'm around, I'll assume he's generally like that. Groce looking dudes can also be assholes when you're not looking. You'll really never know so why obsess.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:44 PM
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Yep. 'Good feminists sleep with uggos' doesn't really follow from 'avoid genital contact with assholes at all costs'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:40 PM
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Well, the thing is, most of us have bullied someone at some point in our lives, even if unintentionally. The guy who locked Evan in the locker room is probably no longer an ass (although Even is entitled to think he is forever, obv). Unless Evan was a close friend of the woman's or something why would she care? Also sex is not something women 'reward' men with and thinking of it that way is fucked up. It's a shared experience, not a treat for men when they tow the line. Annnd many women who repe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:37 PM
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Well, my point still stands -- is this girl really a slut or is she just trying to seem 'cool' within her peer group by peacocking abt her knowledge of the new, cool thing. Is this a 'slut tell' or is it just a thing you don't like? Men don't really talk about sexual exploits in gory detail with each other, either (women are a lot more explicit with their bffs about sexual encounters, though). Esp after the age of 20 or so and I feel like before that a lot of them are exaggerating or embellishin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:22 PM
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Whut. Do you actually think, 'hmm, this girl can give me a blow job but she has not yet proved impressive enough to experience the privilege of my dick'?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:08 PM
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Yeah, this seems about right in terms of my observations, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:04 PM
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Are you talking about femininity and masculinity in terms of appearance, here? And what do you mean by 'prove them wrong'?! In terms of what? Am curious about what missions these girls needle you with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:02 PM
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Idk about the US but in many places in Aus not radically. There's a bit of a difference between working at strip clubs vs parties with men doing more hens' nights/private events. The women generally feel less able to be open about their work, the guys are like, 'yeah I'm stripping, it's fun but I make less money if I don't wax my chest also old women/men are pervs I never knew'. For my burlesque friends, weirdly, that's reversed -- the dudes get a ton of flack, the women are very open and everyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:55 PM
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Well, actually, it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:49 PM
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Doesn't sound like it. Sounds like she just likes sex. Idk do most BPD women come across as 'cool'? I would think 'intense' or 'interesting' moreso than cool, tbh. They're not laidback people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:39 PM
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Ime, women like this usually just went to all girls' schools, usually religious. They treat men and women the same because they never learned to do otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:37 PM
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You don't really lose heat through your legs. Short skirt does not = cold. Nor do high heels, depending on type.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:34 PM
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He said 'some women have dude brains'. He's not talking about men and women generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:31 PM
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Well that's your fault, isn't it? Learn to complain better m8 :P
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:28 PM
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Why do you think this is the case? I think people who brag about their sexual experience in gory detail often only have a few partners and are eager to seem 'sexually mature' (overcompensating for inexperience basically). I noticed this as a trend among my friends post losing their virginity. Sex was a huge deal for a while -- the big thing. And everyone wanted to pretend that they 'got it' and were good in the bedroom. No one talked about it in detail after that. Same with drinking. People only…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:27 PM
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Lmao. I also mysteriously disappear when that particular group of friends decides to play that game.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:18 PM
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For sleep issues during depression?! Dafuq. Did they try all of the other insomnia treatments first? Melatonin, temazepam, other benzo combos? Nuts to give someone Seroquel for insomnia, imo. The drug makes you feel as bad if not worse than lack of sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:13 PM
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No, it does not. This is a common misconception of Dudes on the Internet. Women contribute to and maintain the patriarchy, too. It's not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:07 PM
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Tbh, I'm always surprised that they don't try lithium before going for antipsychotics. People with unipolar depression who don't respond well to antidepressants can often successfully be treated with very low doses of lithium (idk. It's really a lot like Seroquel in terms of effect a high doses, but b/c you can apply that lower quantity you can scale about and avoid the vegetable effect).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:51 PM
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Aughhhhh. No. I really feel like no one should be on Seroquel as a long term treatment. The side effects almost always outweigh any benefits. Such a dumb trend, esp when something milder like Valium or another benzo would be way better suited to treating anxiety. (Also fear of being forced to take Seroquel and other anti-psychs makes a lot of people avoid hospital even when they need it. The number of times I have met ppl who just choose to self-medicate after a Seroquel experience is nuts).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:42 PM
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What 'privileges' do 6.5 women get? I was under the impression that it was a myth that all women were getting free things on a daily basis. The downside is being considered less capable and intelligent by default. The downside is people always wanting and expecting your time and attention etc. The downside is people thinking that your success can largely be attributed to your beauty. I don't know why everyone reduces beauty and its downsides to street harassment. There's a lot more going on. (an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:36 PM
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Because I know heaps of trophy wives and this just isn't true. Lots of women who don't marry wealthy men are in it for the money (some money is better than none!). Lots of women who marry wealthy men and live a certain kind of lifestyle are not in it for the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:27 PM
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Yes, but rights aren't defined in negation. 'the right to bodily autonomy' is obviously a right. 'the right to not have your genitalia mutilated' not so much. (although the implementation of the right to bodily autonomy will mean that people don't have the genitalia 'mutilated'. Of course what bodily autonomy means in diff societies is going to mean that might not always be the case. Circumcision in the West can be compared to young girls getting their ears pierced etc -- at that age, parents ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:21 PM
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Well, tangents are allowed. It's aight. Outta curiosity, was she manic when she met you? The 'all of the personal info in 5 mins' sorta suggests it to me. If so was all of the stuff true?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:18 PM
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What is the relevance of the language used by feminists re: behaviours? Could you directly answer my questions -- I would be curious to see your reply. Patriarchy is not 'conspiracy of men' -- you are misunderstanding the term. It describes a social structure that is oppressive, not the behaviour of men working as part of an anti-women network.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:15 PM
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So anthropology needs to be falsifiable according to you? The idea that anything that describes the real world (esp culture and its progression, which is often intangible) needs to be 'scientific' is bizarre. Policy questions cannot be answered using the scientific method, fairly often. It's multidisciplinary. Feminism and RP are not science. Falsification is irrelevant, here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:09 PM
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How can someone be engaging in extreme substance abuse and still be cool, hot, smart etc -- tends to effect people's behaviour. Do you just mean she binge drinks occasionally? Banging new dudes is not really a behavioural problem (unless she isn't happy with her decision to do so).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 11:27 AM
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Well, everyone marries for a transactional reason by this account. Most of us tend to account for both suitability and love (which is what these people do).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 10:28 AM
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Yep! Lithium works for me and it's still in wide use for 'classic' manifestations of BP 1 from what I've seen (called like lots of diff names at the pharmacy tho). It's tricky because what you're given kind of depends on what your manifestation is -- I trend toward being manic (like my baseline mood is just shy of hypomania if I'm not clinically depressed) so some of the newer treatments that are more suitable for ppl who trend toward depression when 'normal' (like lamictal) don't work for me. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 10:25 AM
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Yes, but that doesn't mean they're just marrying for money. It's a bit different in terms of its motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 10:00 AM
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What facts are trumping her 'fair'? She's not wrong. ASD has a diff manifestation in girls due to socialisation. It is often missed or misdiagnosed as a result and the women suffer untreated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:36 AM
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What privileges does an attractive woman get that an attractive man does not? There are downsides to beauty for women that are not as pronounced for men, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:34 AM
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Men don't want to participate equally in childcare. Women pay more to raise children post-divorce because they remain the primary carer. 70% of people living in poverty in the US are women. Colleges are using a system of affirmative action for men (despite the fact that they face no tangible hurdles, historical or present). Lots of handwringing here and one or two decent points obscured by the ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:32 AM
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Apart from reproductive rights, none of these are 'rights' per se (legal, inalienable privileges).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:26 AM
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Why are you invoking the language of human rights to discuss gender inequality? Do you not think there can be non rights-based inequality? (income-based inequality, for example) Why are you discussing a 'grand conspiracy'? Is this the only way that you think inequality can come to be? (structural oppression down race, class, gender axes is all unreal for you? You think all the -isms either don't occur or occur because the cool kids are conspiring on Wednesdays or something? You really may as wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:20 AM
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What are these 'behavioural problems'?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:08 AM
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Why for life, tho? It's a job, she can quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:02 AM
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My very conservative (very insecure) friends from HS once decided to have everyone go around the table and discuss their n-count. It's because they were all still at 0 and were trying to gauge normalcy in a roundabout way. I mysteriously disappeared for a cigarette break to avoid the table looking like 0-0-0-50/countless. Seemed like an awkward, unnecessary thing for them to know about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:00 AM
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??? What is this dehydration business you speak of? I have BP type 1 and have been on and off lithium and I assure you, I am normally a-okay with hydrating myself either way. Again, the periods where you are so manic that you forget to eat or drink because of all your fascinating thoughts is verrrrry brief. And sometimes, even during a florid mania, it doesn't happen (with water for me anyway). Also re: delusion that could fit with paranoid mania, hypomania, OR standard mood. People get that lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 07:45 AM
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Once I went home with a guy I'd been dating from a club, planning to consummate things. Wound up playing pool with his housemates instead. No regrets. Idk prob not the same as what you're talking about because I've never gone home with someone that I wasn't interested in as a human? I like experiencing the person in whatever way and the frisson of wondering if/when the sex is going to happen can be satisfying in itself for me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 07:28 AM
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But you are casually offering randoms sex? (I didn't think you were) Idk. Am trying to understand the reasoning here. I love giving blow jobs -- it feels like a power position to me so I sometimes do it to feel dominant. Usually I do this b/c I want to have sex but am not feeling PIV (period, unconvinced dude will have good rhythm, UTI etc). I don't let dudes eat me out unless I actually like and trust them (bc it can go wrong so easily, so many dudes are shit at it), so I don't demand reciproca…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 07:18 AM
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Somewhere between 50-60 (or maybe 40 if you don't count all of the group in the group sex where not everyone made genital contact). I don't think it really "should" be anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 07:11 AM
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I have lots and they are all radically different. I am also one. Low fear, high empathy (ENFP), prestigious education, conservative culture. 'Lusty' personality. I don't just want sex, really -- I want everything (food, wine, books, music, people's life stories) and that is apparent. My best friend is Asian, conservative background, super hawt, prestigious education, a bit lower on empathy but not by much. Hedonistic but also neurotic. We've had threesomes with ppl occasionally just because we c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 07:08 AM
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Yeah, this. I am damaged. I like sex. I do not like sex because I am damaged and the sex does not damage me. A good way to tell with this is to look at how in 'control' someone is. Can they avoid risky partners (for ex. Boss, friend's boyfriends, siblings husbands etc) is a key thing to look at imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:53 AM
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Commenting to ask why you think Bipolar Type 1 is the 'worst'? I really disagree based on experiences with tons of bipolar people + general reading. Type II seems to generally be more manifest as a never-ending cycle of mania and depression (often with a lot more depression) and is not as responsive to lithium. 1 may involve fully-fledged mania, but cycles are slower/less frequent and the mood tends to be 'normal' most of the time. Idk. 2 is deadlier than 1, too, in terms of suicidality etc. 1 m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:39 AM
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Lolwhut. You are obviously not from any place where the weather is warm. Everybody went through a booty shorts phase when I was in HS. Only 2 ppl in my year group had lost their virginity by graduation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:33 AM
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Um. I am not putting down Popper. I don't think that everything is a science and that a theory of science has no worth due to lack of falsifiability. I am asking you why you think falsification should be applied to theories (of science, behaviour, gender) that are not scientific. Specifically, RP and feminism. If you think falsification should apply to theories, then it follows that you would also apply it to itself, imo. Unless you've got other reasons for applying it to specific theories (like…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:20 AM
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No, I don't. That's why I asked him the questions I did above. I don't think anybody working a ton of hours (man or woman) is necessarily indicative of them not loving their spouse as much as their job If you read the rest of the comments you'll see that I pretty much explained exactly what you did here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:10 AM
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Trophy wives. Women that men marry because they are trophies. The kind of wife who is appealing because she increases your status among your colleagues etc (gold diggers don't usually do this). Patrician, of similar age to her partner, involved on charity/community boards, educated enough that she could have her own career (but she and hubby both prefer her to be a trophy wife).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:08 AM
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Okay. So why do you want feminism and RP to be scientific? Neither are, really. I can see how RP in particular sometimes leans on evo psych as a means of justification, but it's by no means always scientific. Feminism, too, does not seem to have its primary claims rooted in science to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:05 AM
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I'm not arguing with you (I honestly couldn't tell if you were speculating re: why other people use dread or explaining why you use it). You asked me a question and I responded, even though it was supposed to be rhetorical because I hate it when people gloss over their own inconsistencies with 'whatever' or 'who cares tho' instead of examining their exaggeration and dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 12:42 AM
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People who don't appreciate others puffing themselves up by pretending to be badass manipulative bros and then having the gall to call their ego-stroking narrative 'cynicism'. People who think it's obnoxious to aspire to manipulation and making women angry. Also lol women by and large don't care if you call going to the gym and wearing deo dread. Women (and men) are just going to laugh at you if you say this outside RP. This is another selfsoothing narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 12:27 AM
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There is a medical procedure men can undergo if they really 100% don't want kids, too -- chemical castration. Choice. It is yours. (what's that? You maybe want kids in the future and you don't want to undergo a medical procedure that might be complicated? You think that's unnatural and it just doesn't sit right with you and isn't really a choice? Don't care. It's still on the table and if you really wanted to fuck with impunity and an insurance policy you'd take it) Responsibility? Use protectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 12:04 AM
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He fucked her. He made that choice. If men could get pregnant, they too would have the choice to get abortions (hopefully someone can make this happen one day so that men, too, can experience the important privileges of labour and abortion. Equality, yo). Alas, they do not. So they have to think about the pregnancy issue. There is a social interest in you contributing, at the very least financially, to your child's upbringing. Can women do it alone? Yes. Is it ideal? Not unless you are wealthy a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 11:58 PM
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Because it's all abt social behaviour and universal human nature. Applying falsifiability to sociality is often a task in futility. There's no 'controlled' way to study people's behaviour at s dinner party, for example. This is especially true of sociosexual behaviour. Do you think all philosophy is useless, too. 'Fuck off, Hobbes, you can't falsify leviathan!!!' If so, why are you using a philosophy abt falsifiability that cannot, itself, be falsified? Strange complaint and it's kind of missing…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 11:33 PM
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Because it's all abt social behaviour and universal human nature. Applying falsifiability to sociality is often a task in futility. There's no 'controlled' way to study people's behaviour at s dinner party, for example. This is especially true of sociosrcusl behaviour. Do you think all philosophy is useless, too. 'Fuck off, Hobbes, you can't falsify leviathan!!!' Strange complaint and it's kind of missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 11:33 PM
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This has nothing to do with cynicism. If there's no dread involved I honestly don't get why you would call something dread. It's not cynical, it's just inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 11:25 PM
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What's the goal? The goal of dread in a relationship is to get her to feel like she has to put out or you'll use one of your 'options'. To use jealousy to make her attracted to you. Makes sense in a monogamous relationship (gross but makes sense. Monogamy ends when people exercise options). But in a friendship you're already exercising your other options and if you self-improve radically you might just outgrow the friendship. That happens -- it's not something most people feel dread about. So, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 11:08 PM
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I don't care about my friends' hobbies at all -- shared hobbies are a perk, but many of my best friends don't share my interests (values, outlook, humour, good conversation, loyalty are my friendship things not 'do you play guitar and do jiu jitsu?!'). Many of my friends have hobbies that would not 'count' by Reddit standards. Don't care. Wouldn't be friends with someone who didn't have social skills that I found adequate already. How would we have become friends?! And I don't really blow my fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 11:01 PM
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That is not dread. That is a combination of envy, insecurity and ambition. It's not like you're fucking them s they won't outclass you, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 03:49 PM
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This. Stop being manipulative. Stop dating manipulative people. I don't know why people find this so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 03:44 PM
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Omg your emoticon usage here was amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 03:24 PM
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It's weird that you take your perceptions to be facts. This is how I feel about everyone I have ever loved (including friends and fam, tbh? I don't think appreciating all of the little things about someone is necessarily romantic. Isn't this how everyone appreciates everyone?)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 03:18 PM
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It's a power position, tho. Having all of the women in the room suddenly become sexually 'off' is a disorienting experience for the poor fellows. (This is not serious at all, I'm just making Dad jokes, lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 03:11 PM
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Yes. Women in high powered careers always age badly. That is why Amal Clooney looks like such a piece of shit. Classic 'bond-hag' really! Also trading is way, way more stressful than menial jobs where people also work long hours and make no money, so also have to deal with financial instability. Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 03:01 PM
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It depends on the people and I think there's sometimes overlap. But I think women's metric is a bit different, generally. People who have 6 figure jobs tend to think everyone else wants that -- but the blue-haired hairdresser the IT guy approached is probably more drawn to lifestyle factors than money when it comes to career (hospitality people tend to think corporate jobs are lame is another example of this). The Lit major in the example might value 'creativity' and engagement over stability an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 02:37 PM
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I've not seen a pic of Atlas, either, but she described herself for me briefly when I said I imagined she looked like Brooke Logan from The Bold and the Beautiful -- I was way off, haha. I could probably still get $$$ if I sent a cease and desist for copyright infringement, but I can't really be bothered and I still wish the dude involved well. He's talented and I don't want to do him reputational damage for money I don't need. It wasn't the situation where you would draw up a contract! We were …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 02:28 PM
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I don't disagree that it's relevant to attraction but it's not a measure of 'capability' or 'superiority' if it doesn't actually lead to greater competence in any situation where it matters. Esp because it's only a marker of attractiveness for men. Again. This comes back to metrics. This is kind of the equivalent of a woman saying her wide hips are superior because they make her attractive. The relationship between strength and ability to fight (esp not in a controlled context like MMA, which te…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 07:20 AM
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Yah totes, the men in my yoga class always grimace when we get to warrior position.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 07:09 AM
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How does that matter and what does it even mean? Surely she's not actually impulsive if she represses the behaviour because it upsets you? That's self control in action. Sounds like she might just make calculated choices that others wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 06:55 AM
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The joke is on you, not your wife and it's fairly light-hearted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 06:48 AM
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I mean it was more about career creating value than what you find sexy (accountants?! Well, there's no accounting for taste, haha). This is also kind of a poor example because the women both have well remunerated careers and most men don't want to date actresses and models because the attention they get is overwhelming and unless you are also in that social sphere you're bound to feel a touch inadequate. It's like...Between the men I know IRL and Jay-Z, Jay-Z doesn't really signify as more attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 06:42 AM
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Lmao, so she's just generally low FTO? How odd. I thought RP men hated women like that. What do you mean by 'handle it'? Surely it's just a thing she does and nothing you really can do anything about? (barring if your bank accounts are shared, I suppose).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 06:31 AM
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I agree with the majority of this. I also want a partner who is (largely) tranquil. Funnily, I think that what you are saying sounds a lot like 'stoicism' in a woman -- a calm mood, little extreme emotionality or visible stress. I guess I just don't understand the perspective that the stresses, problems and dramas disappear when you have more free time. People with little structure and engagement tend to seek small conflicts in their interpersonal sphere to keep life interesting, imo. It's why c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 06:25 AM
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Don't women have better hand eye coordination and better general vision than men? I could be wrong. And what do you mean by fighting ability? That seems trained + not innate or gendered to me? I don't feel like I have an inferior ability to manipulate non-me things in the world in my daily life (no bar fights and I'm not a removalist or involved in physical labour), but I occasionally pretend that this is the case because it seems to make men happy, lol. Is it really superiority if there's no pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 06:08 AM
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And Stacey just couldn't imagine a future without Chad. Inability to resist strong impulses to engage in risky behaviour that involves completely reordering your life strikes me as textbook low FTO. (but I get that it's complex and people can be willing to take risks and still be goal-focused and reasonably stable otherwise. Also that sometimes fall powerfully in love and it just clicks and becomes worthwhile). Out of curiosity: knowing your SO up close, what do you think about this scenario. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 05:54 AM
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By physical capability do you just mean strength? Because I can pop out babies, do backflips and pretzel my body into weird positions. But my hubby is stronger than me and can get places faster because he's got a good foot of height on me (idk how he doesn't kill me when we go hiking together, I slow him down so much just by virtue of leg length differences, lol). Again, metrics of capability. This is often 'complex' it's not really 'men are more physically capable because they are stronger ' or…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 05:32 AM
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I completely disagree. One could not 'perform' being Nigella Lawson -- a wealthy trophy wife who can cook, who is unabashedly feminine and sexy, dresses a very particular way, has a very particular accent and features that are somewhat patrician due to a combo of maintenance and cosmetics -- and be poor. Go to a poor neighbourhood and try to find a Nigella Lawson type, you'll struggle. Her success has come from combining 50s housewife and modern trophy wife sensibilities and then adding a rarely…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 05:00 AM
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Yes, but a man being 'smarter, wealthier' does not mean that he cares more about his career than his wife. I actually can think of many women who would like the same dynamic you like but gender reversed and I always ask them the same questions I'm asking you -- I genuinely cannot fathom my career being more important than my most valued interpersonal relationships & I am reasonably highly powered/on my way to getting there. Men do not actively say that they are attracted to those who are 'dumber…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 04:41 AM
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Also girls do that bizarre falling in love 'at' someone instead of with them thing, too. This is just a thing that dreamy, neurotic people who project their own imaginative fantasies onto others do intuitively. They 'believe' their feelings inspired by their impressions and spin narratives about personality traits etc after to justify their 'love'. This is why 14yos are wildly in love with Bieber etc. He's basically just saying that men act like fangirls around women they like and is calling the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 04:25 AM
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So you think loving a thing is not about appreciating the thing itself, but is actually just about you and your feelings? This is unintuitive. Knowledge is surely part of a deep, lasting love, too. There is a distinction (in terms of human relationships, let's leave our fishy friends behind) between limmerence and love and true knowledge is it. Loving the object as is rather than loving the object as sculpted by the mind's eye, which is usually inspired by the feelings 'impressionistic' versions…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 04:21 AM
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Legit tho. I can't believe PPD has devolved to the point where we're sharing lessons abt loving your goldfish that should be listicles: 4 Ways to Show Your Goldfish You Love Her Even Though She'll Probably Die Next Tuesday'. This is a new low, even for us, hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 04:15 AM
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What is a thing if not it's form, it's function, the sensory and mental experience of engaging with it? The point of this aphorism is that we love things in relation to how we experience them. That our means of 'knowing' a thing is necessarily related to and limited by our own perspective, by the language we use to filter our perspective etc. It's not 'you don't actually give a fuck about fish you just like to eat them!!' Too simplistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 04:12 AM
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Yeah. Even for a Mrs Degree, that's not really graduating summa cum laude, lol. Rpers want girls with high FTO, right, totally? Lol. Having a ONS is so irresponsible and should result in a fatwah. But dropping out suddenly and moving halfway around the world to live with some guy? Very smart. Classic sign of a lady whose priorities are in order
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 04:06 AM
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But why does creating value in you create value in your marriage? I think this outlook is admirable (if balanced) but what you're saying does not follow & if it does, it should follow not only for you but for your female equivalent. 'Creating value in the world does add value to my marriage because it creates value in me' = also for women, yes? Unless you are saying that you think women's contributions of value to the world don't create value in them? (so Nigella Lawson's ability to delight ppl …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 04:00 AM
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I dunno. I've seen the managing partners of big law firms with their families, grandchildren etc. Lots of people seem capable of stripping the office off entirely when they are outside of it. I think it's an essential skill for people who want to raise a family and have that kind of career. Also, do you think it's fair to be a 'storm' in your relationship? I feel like it's (largely) my job to make sure I'm tranquil -- my partner is not a soothing agent he's a value add like a cloudless sky or wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 03:53 AM
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Do you think that because of your hours you would care about your job more than your wife? If so, do you think there'd be a power asymmetry in the relationship that would be kind of...unfair and likely to be hurtful to her? (I can't really imagine being with someone who cares about their job more than me, family, close friends, so I get where you're coming from re: wanting that. But it sounds like you think people who work a lot can't have that kind of values system and you work like that so I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 03:47 AM
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Well, no man is an island. But that's why it's a bit disingenuous to present as a one-man act when someone is heavily involved in your editing. Idk. I know the story of how it happened and I think it's kind of a douchey move on Tefsaye's part, although very him and still likeable, haha. Idk. I'm a bit...I wrote a song (lyrics exclusively, I can't compose to save my life) for someone while we were mucking around and he kept it and is making reasonable $$ from those lyrics now and it makes me angr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 03:20 AM
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No but they pay people under licences that specify that they can't take credit, which doesn't seem to have happened here. A lot of artists have way more control than you would think, tho. Most rappers write their own lyrics or collab on them -- I've seen less of a trend to ghost and songwriters for rap that is not total bubblegum pop. The music seems like the most organic in the mainstream. Outside of the mainstream, artists tend to write their own music. It's rare for people to get into product…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 01:57 AM
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That's because Jay does a lot of the actual sampling, credits 'ft' when others do and makes music that is almost entirely about the rap lyrics themselves. I agree that he is a machine and not a man tho -- I tend to see huge pop idols like Jay-Z differently. Anyway. It's one thing to have people remastering your tracks it's another to have someone essentially composing them, imo. Bring it back to a different genre -- the difference is two guys writing 20% of the notes on an original score vs some…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 07:09 PM
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Yeah, for sure. When you're dissecting lyrics and marvelling at how aptly they capture something you prob relate OR aspire. I think this is more impressionistic with music for many as opposed to rooted exclusively in the lyrics, though. For example, with Pumped Up Kicks, the story that unfolds in my head (Salvatore Ferragamo pumps, sun, a bit too much champagne and some giddy shoplifting). Idk. I also tend to 'find myself' in music even if I don't relate. Like I relate to the sleepy desire under…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 07:04 PM
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You do if production is a huge part of the actual music. The Weeknd's sampling of indie rock = what gives the RnB that unique hipster slant. Denying that the person who does that is 'part of the group' is strange, imo. Like saying the bassist isn't part of a band. I think the best way to think of this is to look at Jay Z's Black Album and the way DJ Dangermouse spliced it with the Beatles to give it new tone. Saying that '99 Problems' is the same on The Black Album vs The Grey Album and that Jay…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 06:50 PM
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That's one reason, sure. People also tend to use art for escapist purposes or to explore new scenarios and music is really no different. And with music there's the sound itself to consider and the way it stirs you. I'm not listening to Bach fugues because I relate to them, or Nina Simone. I'm def def def not listening to Alan Vega because I relate to him. I'm not listening to Robert Gasper, Erykah Badu, Vince Staples, Earl Sweatshirt, Marty Robbins because I 'see myself' in their music. I'm list…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 06:41 PM
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Yeah I am talking abt the same thing. I consider the producers and collaborators on the tracks that I mentioned above ad part of the group. Tbh this was a whole 'thing' ages ago. Are they or are they not part of The Weeknd re: the producers who also seem to collaborate. Lots of people getting unnecessarily angry. I'm surprised you haven't heard of them? I refer to basically all groups of musicians bar orchestra as 'bands' including 'solo artists' who collab (like Bright Eyes). Srry for not using…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 06:25 PM
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Why did I tell him? (mostly because it's an open secret among my close friends and I didn't want him to hear it from anyone else)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 04:45 PM
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Nah. Most people are flawed but functional. I think people are too quick to label standard behaviour 'dysfunctional' tbh. Agree with the sentiment that no one is perfect, we've all got damage etc. I don't know why you'd think I would be suggesting otherwise. My point above was not primarily abt dysfunction. It was an pi T
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 04:42 PM
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Autocorrect (I've been writing most of my posts via smartphone, sorry) + I count McKinney and Illangelo, but understand most ppl don't. Honestly I would just tell you if I didn't like them or know the music, but I do. Shrug. Is it my favourite? No (my favourite music is way more fucked up, tbh, tho), but I think it's clever. I love the dudes themselves, esp Tefsaye who is delightfully unselfaware (and hot, yeah it helps). Try not to get too 'true fan' on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 04:38 PM
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I only disagree with like 30-40% of it (usually the stuff about female sexuality. It's where RP gets way off base. The description of the male experience is usually at least somewhat apt). It's an important 30-40% tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:49 AM
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Or a female Uber driver. Lots of hubbub about those. (adding this bc some guy is inevitably going yo be like 'what about equality outside of professional spheres?! What abt women in construction?!')
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:47 AM
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Affirmative action is about righting an imbalance either to redress a historical inequality OR for the greater social good. Where I am, rural kids receive affirmative action and women and people of colour do not. This is not a sign that the country is coming for us suburbanites or a sign of rural people asserting their superiority. I don't think you understand affirmative action. You maybe don't even understand 'equality'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:45 AM
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Okay. I concede. You are the arbiter of black culture and its norms, internet random. No narcissism to see here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:42 AM
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The concept of 'frame' is literally just not behaving like an insecure nitwit or someone without any values system.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:36 AM
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What did I say that implied that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:34 AM
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Like less of a neurotic mess. People who are hiding things often comes across as very inconsistent and emotionally unstable, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:32 AM
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I am not white, also not black. There is no 'black' way of handling things. Different black areas have different methods of doing things. Majority black areas also tend to be poor. And poor areas tend to be more violent. Hmmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:25 AM
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You gotta be conventionally attractive for this, tho, surely?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:05 AM
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They only find a certain type of woman attractive. Very conventional women. They're not going to fuck girls with heaps of piercings etc for the most part because 'ew slut'
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:04 AM
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Well. That's the kind of attitude that sees the police needlessly criminalising black men. But you do you. It's okay to typecast a group of people as sexy thugs because they're sexy and it's 'dope'. (Also it's not reality. Black men are just men. Some of them are dangerous and some of them aren't).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 01:59 AM
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I usually agree with you, but I think this comment is off-base a bit. I don't think rap and hip hop artists are displaying a world that is any more 'glossed' 'unreal' or 'larger' than the worlds depicted in other types of music. It's just that these artists tend to come from radically different backgrounds to, say, popstars. Jay-Z was a dealer in the hood, you know, he's going to have a different perspective than Taylor Swift. Re: women who love rap I also don't think that's true. I love rap (an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 01:55 AM
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Who said anything about mainstream? That said, rock is still very explicit in the mainstream poppy iterations. See: Arctic Monkeys, Cobra Starship etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 01:16 AM
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I have! I just don't think there's enough force behind that kind of thinking in mainstream feminism. I don't want to identify as a feminist when I think the majority of it is 'problematic' you know? That said, I will not say that I am not a feminist in the majority of contentious conversations people have about this in real life. People too often lump me in with the other detractors who are RP style and my critique is coming from an entirely different space.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 01:12 AM
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Nope. It comes from the interpretation of biology (ie biology and it's implications as perceived not as they are) and culture. Siri Hustvedt who is both a scientist and humanitarian scholar by training has great perspectives on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 01:09 AM
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Yeah, I think in a capitalist society you should look to class first and then examine the way all of the other '-isms' intersect with that. There is no doubt in my mind that I am more privileged than poor white men from the middle of nowhere. This is a big part of my critique of 'intersectionality'. The women of colour entering feminist spaces are, by and large, like me. Very UMC, very Westernised. I would appreciate seeing more women from working class backgrounds speaking in feminist spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 01:07 AM
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Sexual equality would be achieved in a snap.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 01:02 AM
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Not okay. I didn't disclose having been raped to my husband for a long time, though. I just feel like it casts an unnecessary pall over any sexual relationship you have esp when there's love involved. Men inevitably begin to treat you like fine China and it's not fun. I obviously eventually told him, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 01:00 AM
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I responded to you in the other thread but for me it's about universalisation vs capturing a subjective experience. I love reading TS Eliot but I wouldn't want to hang out with someone who argued that level of disaffection was universal all the time. I love Fight Club but I hate people who take Fight Club too seriously. If I had written a song during my incredibly destructive phase it would have read like I was saying sociopathy = natural behaviour. But it was all contextual and there was very l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 12:57 AM
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Agree. This reeks of fetishization of the dangerous black male. It's Kanye West as Othello.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 12:54 AM
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Rap and hip hop are historically black spaces tho. Just as jazz was once mostly black. Acknowledging that is not racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 12:53 AM
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Rock music is also full of aggressive expressions of male sexuality, tho. So is 'pop' which overlaps with all these genres.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 12:52 AM
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I'm going to respond, I swear! I've just been super busy and unable to give this the thought and attention it deserves. Imo, the music is about dysfunctional people being dysfunctional, not 'human nature' tho and that's the key difference. I fucking love hearing about people's dysfunction (I legit should be a therapist idk why I got into law) -- but I don't like when they try to universalise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 12:47 AM
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Sounds like Snezana (her real name!) from one Aussie season of The Bachelor. He picked her over all of the other non-single mothers because she was hot af. I think this is going to depend on the woman and the man's position in life. Can't see men in their early twenties getting on board -- late twenties plus is a different story, though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 12:41 AM
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I am pretty sure I count as a youth and I've been using that phrase my whole life. Might be an area dependent thing!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 12:39 AM
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Oh, I know they exist. It's just that I never encountered one as a domina. All highly powered men. I wonder if that's partially to do with the context in which I've tended to be dominant -- my actual relationships are for the most part 'normal' or 'vanilla' sex and I tend toward passion more than power play unless I am in specific moods, so idk about relationships outside of work where this power dynamic is constant. I have encountered men who like to top from the bottom. I put them in their pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 12:36 AM
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Unattractive, obviously. What is attractive about what I described? This is obviously a turn off: It's a pretty dead giveaway that a guy's read some bullshit on the internet if he's trying to ''lead'' all of his interactions or is joking in certain ways that infantilise you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 05:20 PM
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All of them. Except for the one about women liking abs. But please do go ahead and explain me to me, SetConsumes. You're the expert on me after all. If you think I don't ''defy'' any RP principles, then I must be a walking example of AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 05:16 PM
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It's really obvious, tbh, the vast majority of the time. Little things give it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 05:13 PM
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No, that's not true. Lying by omission is a thing. If your partner doesn't ask, ''are you cheating?" and you just never tell her about your mistress, you're still lying, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 05:11 PM
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Bruno Mars isn't RP he's just irritating. Most hip hop, rap, trap is rp as fuck, and so is much pop too. Nah, not pop. I think this depends on how you interpret it. You see what you want to identify with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 05:07 PM
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you're also a walking example of so many rp principles too lol. Lol, like what. Keen to hear a SetConsumes breakdown -- always good for a laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 05:05 PM
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Yeah, or he may as well be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 05:04 PM
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But it's hard to discuss this when you haven't listened to at least one full album to get idea of the themes that run through all his music. I have tho! I really like The Weekend, haha. We can have our Weekend argument later, though, because I'm about to go to bed. I think Kanye West is really RP sometimes, esp in his takes on single mothers, but not my babies The Weekend. I've not seen anything saying "plates" (hate that term, too autistic) have to be monogamous so I dunno where you get that fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 05:03 PM
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Thanks for that non sequitur, Captain Obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:56 PM
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This place is not representative of humanity, dw. Keep on trucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:55 PM
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it seems pretty obvious that the reason they're not candid about it is that people perceive you differently if you go around blaring about how you had to do Red Pill stuff for a year or two in order to turn yourself into a socially successful dude. I'm talking about the behaviours themselves as opposed to talking about the behaviours, to clarify. It's obvious why someone wouldn't talk about many of these behaviours -- but if you're employing them regularly, people should be able to develop a gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:54 PM
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I didn't want to engage with it at all but yeah, this 100%. Honestly, wtf. Who doesn't run for the hills the second a potential ONS says, ''oh, btw, I'm a virgin!!'' No clingers for ONS, ty very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:50 PM
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Depends on the extent to which he does it. It's a pretty dead giveaway that a guy's read some bullshit on the internet if he's trying to ''lead'' all of his interactions or is joking in certain ways that infantilise you. It's not necessarily RP, but I don't think that matters too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:46 PM
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grabbing genitals as violent while seeing mugging as nonviolent. I don't see mugging as nonviolent, to clarify. But I don't think the purpose of mugging is the violence. I do with grabbing people's genitals. You think this is comp. to mugging b/c you think the purpose of grabbing people's genitals is ''sex''. A lot of people don't see eye to eye with you on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:44 PM
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. Listen to The Weeknd and tell me his lyrics are not basically RP. I...don't see it at all? There's nothing RP specific there, imo. abundance mentality and dread game These two can be fine, but I think a lot of autistic RPers apply dread game in a way that sounds abusive. So I'm wary of it. Abundance mentality is one of the best RP concepts. I don't think the specific ones I mentioned -- AWALT, soft harem building & oldest teenager in the house -- can be explained in a way that isn't unattracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:42 PM
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Leading, maintaining ''frame'' all the time, being stoic etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:33 PM
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he thing is though women respond to aggressive sexual gestures, they even like being objectified,guy taking the lead etc. No one likes being objectified. If, as many conservatively raised men around here seem to, you think ''objectifying'' a woman means treating her at all sexually, you don't understand what women mean when they say ''I don't like being objectified''. This is a communication issue. I do not often meet women who enjoy men taking the lead, generally. I know I get super annoyed whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:32 PM
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I hate Dworkin. I'm pretty obviously all about sex, as if I'd like Andrea Dworkin who thinks all sex is rape on some level? Firestone is a nutcase who seems to find the female experience inherently distasteful. Her opinions abt pregnancy, motherhood etc are disgusting. Again, ideology is far too narrow. I feel this way about most ''radical'' feminists from the 70s. Gay is cool, although I don't always agree with her. Bad Feminist was insightful in some ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:28 PM
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Yeah. See, we agree. You're a RP man who actually isn't ashamed & is at the very least internally consistent in his beliefs (still disagree with you, but your behaviour makes sense). I can tell when guys are using PUA (guys on here always insist that women can't tell and I'm like, ''lolololololol'') and PUA and RP are actually kind of similar, but RP is more about leading. I hate men who try to lead me in every day situations, but am also v. conscious about the need to ''manage'' them when I hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:21 PM
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Camile Paglia type stuff? No. Not at all. I like moderate, interdisciplinary thinkers, not ''radicals''. I do appreciate things abt Paglia, like her willingness to call out figures like Clinton etc. But. I think her ideological frame is very similar to that of Greer et al and I hate that ideological frame. It's way too limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:17 PM
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'm pretty open about what I believe though so she's aware of all of it. I'm talking about this more than I am about using specific language like AF/BB. So many RP dudes are like, ''you couldn't tell if you met me!!'' and I'm like, ''Doesn't that mean you're doing it wrong/not really behaving RP at all?'' I think we are agreeing. There's a first for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:15 PM
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I think if you take the base ideas of RP, which is different to the attitude of TRP the subreddit, and apply them IRL correctly, then there is no difference. Honestly AWALT, oldest teenager in the house, soft harem building? I think there's a big difference there. And the bitter attitude, imo, is baked into the base ideas (hypergamy, Chad etc). There's useful stuff there, but I do think there would still be a signif difference between a natural and someone who had to bolster their confidence usi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:11 PM
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I can't seem to respect women into self degradation, the ones who want to be treated like sub humans during sex. Its not easy to just dissociate that aspect of hers from day to day life. Eh, you should get over that. People like lots of things during sex that say little about them outside the bedroom. If I assumed every guy who wanted me to swallow or submit in other ways was a misogynist who was into degrading women, I'd have missed out on a lot of great people. Probably a maturity issue & mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:08 PM
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ot discussing RP does not mean not acting RP. A million threads. All the people who say shit like, ''No one can spot RPers in the wild!'' ''The women of PPD wouldn't know us for RPers if they met us in person''. Because if you're not hiding the behaviours, yes, absolutely people will be able to spot you. If you're obviously acting RP, people should be able to tell. And yet lots of people claim no one would be able to and seem to be proud of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:07 PM
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she is unambiguously signalling anti-RP. and he is a perfect example of RP, whether consciously or not. his physique is what makes him attractive. I don't disagree. But I have dated many men with abs who were not ''a perfect example of RP''. This is bullshit. Many fit men aren't at all RP in their mentality -- nothing about that physique indicates that he: thinks women are the oldest teenager in the house thinks AWALT thinks he should never get married and should instead build a soft harem. etc …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:04 PM
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Being RP is attractive I am talking about actively exhibiting the behaviours, not just explaining about it. If you don't want people to know that you have RP values/think it's better if people can't detect your RP values and behaviours, then we're no longer talking about behind the scenes. It's a false equivalence. I'm also talking about claims that I've seen here: RP behaviours (which, imo, includes the process stuff) are attractive. I conceal my RP behaviours. No one claims that sausage making…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:01 PM
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Admitting you had to learn social skills off the internet = unattractive. Social skills = attractive. Do you think there is no difference between the skills, attitude and values of a ''natural'' and a RPer? I do not think they have at all the same kind of philosophy and approach (and this isn't just b/c I hate learned social skills. I think some PUA are decently close to ''naturals'' in outlook etc just not RP).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:59 PM
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What does that have to do with picking a girl for an one night stands? What does bitterness have to do with it, and why would bitterness prevent it from happening? Bitter people are unattractive and the RP is a hivemind full of bitter people. It's also people who struggle trying to teach other people who struggle. It's like a whole bunch of angry blind people trying to teach other angry blind people how to see. There is probably a more optimal way to alleviate (but not fix) the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:53 PM
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I can't say the pleasure was mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:51 PM
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First of all, they are fairly represented. It's just not in a good way. Yes. And everyone outside RP thinks that RP is being fairly represented. You're missing the point. There are a lot of threads about n-count happening at the moment, let's not turn this into one of them, they're just tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:48 PM
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I'm on board with that. I just get confused when people say ''RP behaviour is attractive''. It's obviously not -- everyone would not be striving to hide the fact that they engage in it if they were. I think, from this thread, I've deduced that they mean ''alpha behaviour'' and are living in a land of wishful thinking where ''alpha'' and ''RP'' are synonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:48 PM
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well, for a start.... He's not identifying as RP, though. Why do you think a man who identifies as the captain of a football team is RP? Why do you think that women are being ''hypocritical'' if they date physically attractive men? these are my terms - anything unsaid cannot be assumed - you are free to leave any moment and i will help you do so and respect the finality of that decision. But this isn't making it obvious that you're RP. None of what you just said about women proving their value t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:45 PM
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Because I'm in under a lot of pressure to be perfect and if I'm not perfect as a man I'm not worth much, if anything at all. So I'm sensitive. So. That has nothing to do with some dude on the internet being overly sensitive and claiming someone is shaming him when they aren't. why doesn't it work? :(( Because it's too bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:42 PM
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I know what it is. I'm not throwing it around. That was a false equivalence. If you want to explain why they're equal, go right ahead with that Herculanean task. Otherwise, mate, your cryptic comments are useless, just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:41 PM
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Idk. I only called him cupcake because he called me cupcake. I was mocking him for using that language more than anything else, lol. ''Cupcake'' isn't really my kind of condescension, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:40 PM
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I think wanting to be dominated is rather embarrassing to accept isn't it? Especially when the whole empowerment movement is in full swing? Not really, no. Especially not if it's in the bedroom. I think most women want to be dominated in the bedroom (but only mildly) and most women understand that sex & activism aren't necessarily related. Maybe some 19yo girls who are super pretentious at Uni have trouble with this -- beyond that, don't think this is a huge thing that people have trouble reconc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:37 PM
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But I still feel hurt. Why do you feel hurt because I told somebody who was obviously overreacting to not be so sensitive? Then what is RP if not the process to get men to become successful with women? A sexual strategy that doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:31 PM
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I am talking about making sure people can't pick up on the behaviours, though. ''People can't tell I have RP values! Why do BPers think we all talk like spergs?!'' If the values & behaviours were attractive, you would want people to pick up on them. Everyone likes steak. Everyone can clearly identify that they like steak -- chefs aren't desperately trying to make steak look and sound like lamb.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:30 PM
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Right. Because the women in question think their partners will find it unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:28 PM
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Wow. Just because we are guys it doesn't mean we don't have feeelings. Mate, did you read his post? He was fairly rude to me and I responded in kind. I don't believe in coddling people of either gender. the process of making a Chad is unattractive if the man isn't a natural and women abhor Chads who aren't naturals. I don't think this is true nor do I think RP is really a process that turns men into Chad (I thought you agreed with me on this! If I'm wrong, explain your position etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:26 PM
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No. But sexual assault and mugging can't be compared. Do you think a murderer who only kills black people can be compared to a mugger who only robs white people? Not all crimes are comparable. Mugging isn't really about violence. That's not the end. It's about money. There's a reason why the vast majority of people (men and women) don't get off on sexually assaulting others. It's not about ''sex'' per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:22 PM
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I don't have any orbiters. Pls stop trying to explain my life to me because you're mad I called you cupcake back. Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:18 PM
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I don't imagine him doing it to strangers on the street Right. So all I'm saying is that what other people are imagining based on that comment and what you are imagining is different. Personally, I think your interpretation is strange, because ''grab'' implies lack of consent to me. I don't assume a woman is consenting if she is ''grabbed''. I also very much think that it is inflicting pain on someone to sexually assault them, which is what this amounts to the way many people interpret it. Again…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:15 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:12 PM
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celebrity behaviour and just simply watching those around me. Which celebrity has outed themselves as an RPer? Well no. The truth gets you ostracised. So, that doesn't mean you're not lying. I don't think it's necessarily bad to be dishonest, but the fact that you're not telling the truth to avoid ostracisation doesn't make you honest. Good justification doesn't erase dishonesty. ''I'm lying to my wife about cheating because otherwise she'll divorce me!" does not = ah, what an honest man, he can…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:10 PM
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Nah, I'm not -- it's become a really deep-seated critique esp with regards to the commodification and consumer aspects of feminism. I'm not anti-capitalist, but I'm very, very anti consumer-based activism. I just find too much feminism gross. Some of it is lovely, but just like I'm not willing to say I'm a fan of Country & Western because I like one or two Marty Robbins ballads, not willing to say I'm a feminist because I like a few strands of feminist thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:08 PM
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econd I'm having trouble imagining it as a violent act - it's uncomfortably invasive as worst - and still is not enough to say that he (or a dick-grabber) hates an entire gender. If I were walking down the street and somebody grabbed me by the pussy I would find that violent. I'm not trying to tell you what you should find violent, personally. That varies between people. I'm just trying to explain why people find this hateful -- it's because they think it's violent & when you commit violence aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:05 PM
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Sluts are unfairly represented therefore sluts should just pretend they're virgins and nab unsuspecting men. Aren't you making the equivalent of this argument, here? If so, sure. But don't we generally agree that sluttiness or perceived sluttiness is unattractive to men, here? Your position is ''RP is unattractive but it works as a strategy and if no one knows I do it then it might not harm me''. That makes sense to me. If you're trying to say something else, please clarify!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:01 PM
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Fair enough! This is not an attitude I've seen from you (I disagree with you, but I find that you generally make sense/seem to hold positions that aren't super contradictory), tbh. But I have seen a lot of RPers indicate that they're hiding their attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 02:59 PM
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if this was your conclusion, you're either obtuse, or subtly being a bitch about it. It's just what I've seen people say. It's not some bizarre conclusion I'm drawing. If you can't see people saying that on the reg all over this sub, you're stupid. Cupcake. it may explain why some people end up being openly hostile to you socially I am well and truly adored socially, but thanks for trying to explain things in my life that aren't an issue to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 02:56 PM
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omen are ashamed of the personality traits they are attracted to but they can't help it. Like what? I'm not ashamed about anything I'm attracted to & I am attracted to many ''alpha traits''. But I am not attracted to RP behaviour and I don't believe myself to be submissive (apart from in the bedroom and even then, sometimes I just want to tie a dude up).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 02:55 PM
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I think the disagreement between people here is the idea that this is how you get sexual pleasure vs this being an act of violence. I would gain no sexual pleasure from assaulting random men by grabbing their dicks (in the sense of assault). Very few men gain sexual pleasure from grabbing women's pussies (again in the context of assault). There is no sexual release or thrill in this for most people. The people who do gain pleasure from this are people who get off on violence & many of those peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 02:53 PM
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To be fair, you didn't reply to his "fake boobs" point, which I think is a good parallel. To be fair, he must have edited his comment to add it -- there was 0 about boobs to begin with. I'll go back and read in a sec. Many men like breasts, but they don't like knowing that this feature has been faked on a woman. I have never met a woman who lied about her boob job. Women tend to boast about them and show them off afterwards and the vast majority of boob jobs (even subtle ones) are obvious. If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 02:49 PM
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1) an increase in sexual partners and satisfaction What are you basing this on? it's society that lacks honesty - not RP. Well, no. If the RP men are lying to everyone around them, then they are lacking in honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 02:45 PM
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I tend to think that assault is motivated by hatred (or anger or contempt, which both fall under the umbrella of hatred). The desire to do violence to someone is generally motivated by a kind of hatred, especially if you're doing violence to someone because they're a certain kind of person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 02:44 PM
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Right. I would get it if RP men just wanted to keep quiet around violent feminazis. But why the seeming need to conceal your agenda from all women when (based on what you claim) women find your agenda incredibly attractive? The sperg comment might be on to something. But then you have to ask yourself: is a values system that mostly appeals to spergs an attractive values system to most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 02:41 PM
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though 8/10 on the shaming There's no shaming in this post. It's me asking a question about why people hold two thoughts that seem incongruous, that's it. You want shaming? Stop being so fucking sensitive. no one wants to know how the sausage is made. That's because the process of making a sausage is unattractive. False equivalence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 02:39 PM
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u want fish to know your a fisherman? You would if fish were attracted to being caught by fisherman. That's essentially what RP is claiming, ''Women are attracted to us -- but if they find out we're using them or have this value system, they'll run away''. It doesn't make sense. What you've said makes it sound like RP is unattractive to women but it works if you entrap and lure them properly. I think that makes sense as a position.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 02:36 PM
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Chiming to say that ''grab'' indicates a move so sudden that you are not giving your conquest time to be willing. ''Grab the situation by the balls'' etc means you are not letting the situation say no to you (in this case the situation is hot guy). I think it's that connotation that makes people read that remark as inherently hateful -- and yeah, I'd read it as hateful if gender-reversed, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 02:21 PM
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Yeah, this. Holy shit, those leaps in logic were large.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 02:17 PM
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Choose my choice feminism sometimes seems wishy washy to me. Of course agency is important, but not every choice a woman makes has to be considered on this bizarre dichotomy of ''empowering'' or ''degrading''. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes a choice is just a choice. Fuck off with this pressure re: my choices please, feminism, it's not conducive to me actually making them in a way that is solely for me. A lot of figures who are highly prominent in mainstream ''pop'' feminist discou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 02:08 PM
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Yeah. Now that I think about it, I definitely ask people about their sexual history/experiences out of curiosity. It's possible I just haven't asked about numbers because all the guys I've gotten serious with bar one obviously don't really know anymore, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:56 PM
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True both for guys and girls. Sleeping around is totally normal, and if you are in a relationship, cheating is not cheating as long as noone finds out. If they do, well, everyone does that, so no big deal. Yeah this is kind of true. Bohemian lifestyle etc. A lot of them are explicit about it and into poly structures now because they can be -- so there's a bit less cheating and then asserting that it's okay because artiste. I have no idea what RPers are picturing when they think ''artist'' but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:51 PM
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The motivation to get into that field often seems to stem from having a bit of baggage. ''A desire to look after others in the way that I wasn't looked after'' is the way that one friend put it. This is also why psychologists and psychiatrists tend to have a fuckton of mental health issues, a lot of sex therapists were once sex addicts etc. It probably has v. little to do with female dominated (imo) because the other female dominated professions don't seem to have similar issues (kindergarten te…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:47 PM
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Totally agree, but would add that I think a lot of ppl think they would like to stay at home in theory (the idea is nice), but get extremely restless when they're actually in that situation. Source: my mother, reading about 50s housewives and the prozac craze, watching Mad Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:39 PM
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The psychic freight sex carries is contextual, yes. But sex always has meaning of some kind. Same as conversations, meals etc. Not every one is important but they all meant something. If you think it means ''nothing'' and are totally mindless about it then you probably have an issue. Same as people who just mindlessly eat have an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:36 PM
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Right, that makes sense. Curiosity as opposed to vetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:33 PM
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It's not uniquely female. This is something people who can't admit that they've made a mistake or are wrong do -- of both genders. Ime, because men have more ego issues (due to the way we're gendered, I don't think this is biological) men hamster more. Women are told that they will fuck up/don't have to be the perfect ''leader'' of a situation more often and are therefore better able to handle being wrong. Women can redirect and adapt their thought processes more easily -- there's less rigidity …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:28 PM
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To be completely honest her face has fuck all to do with it. Most male comedians are ugly -- that should be a non-issue. You know your attitude is fucked up when you can only ''bear'' women who look right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:17 PM
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Yeah I agree with this, but it's not what RP men say. They often say they will not wife up anyone too hot because she's likely to cheat etc. Makes it sound like they're having ONS with Sasha Grey and then trying to wife the girl next door even tho they're still daydreaming about Sasha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:16 PM
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N-count and sluttiness = not the same thing, necessarily, although there is significant overlap. Between a woman who's fucked 3 dudes and a hooters waitress who's fucked 0, most men will assume the waitress is the sluttier. The actual n-count is irrelevant. The male perception of the n-count is what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:14 PM
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That's a fair point. I can imagine more women than men asking this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:14 PM
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I'm talking about what I observe and what I see. Not what her interior life and motivations are. Are you a gimp, Lewis? Because otherwise, this is not based on observation. It's based on guesswork.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:09 AM
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Yep. Absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:08 AM
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When a woman spends a long time on the carousel, fucking hot guys she likes fucking, she gives those hot guys her best. She serves them six-course gourmet meals of sex. Then when she marries, she gives her husband leftover table scraps. This is stupid. I have better sex with the men I'm in relationships with than the men I casually fuck unless it's a super long, ongoing FWB thing. There is way more emotional intimacy and the physical intimacy is heightened in relationships. This is a massive pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:07 AM
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but Rihanna would come on, I would be into the music and the champs and it was all very magical at the party / club😭. I know this feeling well. Champagne bubbles on the inside and the outside. If I'm going To be honest I'm sort of "make out" widowed? Lmao. This is actually hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:57 AM
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Which male ones do you like? I'll try and taste-match you as best I can. I am a fan of really understated, dry humour, so people like Shappi Khorsandi really appeal to me. I like a lot of Brits, am less a fan of American humour in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:28 AM
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Yeah, tons! Just not Amy Schumer. I actually find her painful to listen to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:25 AM
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I do have a few friends who like her. WHY? Please explain to me, I want to understand these people. I have never met anyone who has openly admitted to liking her, haha. She's just so boring it's unbearable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:21 AM
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No. Amy Schumer is very, very un-funny, boring and can't use shock value at all effectively. She's the female equivalent of Tosh or Dane Cook. I am slutty as all hell & know a lot of slutty women. No one likes Amy Schumer. She's just a drop kick. I thought her crowd was chubby, narcissistic white girls who were super young?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:19 AM
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This results in extreme generosity and a habit of having earnest, serious talks with people I hardly know about how awesome I think they are. Me, to a tee, in my late teens/early twenties. I have since become extremely outgoing/lost most of my inhibitions, but yep, I know this behaviour so well. So many people I deeply bonded with and then never had the guts to talk to again -- but also so many friendships forged via drunken D&Ms, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:16 AM
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OP is pretty clearly saying that the men she is talking about are not successful, that those who succeed are exceptions and not representative of TRP men. Disagree with this. RP is a values system, essentially. It offers men a new set of values with which to approach relationships. Most people's values are apparent when you first meet them, even if they don't explicitly state them. For instance, it is fairly obvious when you first meet me that I'm progressive, even though I tend to dress conserv…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:12 AM
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Agree. If these ''beta men'' really see the world this way, they should attack the actual cause of their problems -- ''alpha males''. They just go after women because they're too weak/afraid of/in awe of the alpha males. There's something weirdly homoerotic about RP's focus on Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:06 AM
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Nothing! I made a version of thread before & the most anyone could do to CMV was say that ''men find this behaviour less hurtful''. Well, duh, the behaviour is not directed at men. Women, OTOH, find this behaviour very hurtful. ''Yeah, I fucked all of these gorgeous women that I really desired when I was young, but I don't think Hawt Stacies make good wives, so I decided to settle for you even though I think you are markedly less physically attractive.'' Same thing. Sexual version of AF/BB. Prio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:04 AM
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Besides how is a female a real woman when she isn't even 5 feet tall? Short people are also adults. My mother is under 5 feet and is in her 50s. Woman. Not child. 18 year old girls are babies. They're immature, irresponsible, their brains are still developing and they can't be responsible for what they do. Do you also think 18yo boys are babies? I think they are immature adults. Young adults. They are absolutely cognitively developed enough to be responsible for what they do, although perhaps sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:01 AM
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I'm a gregarious drunk. I don't change too much, but I order everyone rounds and then look at my bank balance in the morning and groan. I wish I'd had a punny drinking name. That sounds hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:59 AM
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Yes, haha! There is this insane photo of me (not on social media anywhere, thank god) wearing a beer helmet, holding shots and wearing a bralette top. I didn't even drink any of the alcohol -- it was just the costuming for a particular party/vibe we were going for. Oh, to be 18 again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:58 AM
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And we are pretty explicit. We don't just mention "I've had 6 bfs" We mention everything. The bfs. The flings. The one time with your best friend. Etc. Yeah. Women are neurotic everything counts. By RPers' standards I've slept with way less people than I have by my own (only PIV seems to count for them & I have slept with a fair few women so I don't know how that works, haha). I used to lie ''up'' when I had a low n-count. I used to say 2 when it was actually 1, 1 when it was 0 in conversations …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:55 AM
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18yos are adults. 18yos are women. Don't infantilise women, ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:50 AM
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Yeah, but for RP men what is the point of that? If you want to avoid dating sluts surely you have to ask before you commit? I have never explicitly asked someone this. I've had many men tell me of their own accord, presumably because they wanted to know how many people I had slept with, but I've never asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:49 AM
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Outside of TRP thinking/world there are guys that would care about dating a woman that slept around. Yes, but as men can't know whether a woman has slept around and formulate their judgement of whether or not a woman is a ''slut'' based on her clothes, this is less about a woman's sexual behaviour itself than how she projects her presence and is perceived. No one is saying men don't care about sluttiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:48 AM
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I just find that weird. Why bother asking after 2 months? I only know what my husbands is because other people have asked him about it in front of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:46 AM
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I'm talking about people's behaviour, not their thoughts. I'm claiming to know what you think based on your words with which you were articulating your thoughts. I have asked you to clarify at several points. You have been unable to and have instead taken to ad hominem attacks, ''you were a hooker, tho!'' ''you need therapy tho!'' ''your meds aren't working, tho!'' Mate. Come on, you're 46, you should be better than this by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:42 AM
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Not their thoughts. Their behaviour. The women that I see clean up with men tend to be cute, hot and sexy all at once aka beautiful. Not sure why you think this has anything to with men's thoughts or why you think I care about men's thoughts. People's thoughts and behaviour are often misaligned. Some guy can think he likes ''cute'' women best till the cow's come home, but if he continually fucks and dates women who aren't cute...well, you see my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:39 AM
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So you have seen women under 5'7?! Why were you saying that you hadn't earlier?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:38 AM
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I actually have dated not hooked so I have a bit of experience​ here Lololololol. I have more dating experience than you, guarantee it. I was a sex worker for 6 months and was already dating the guy I am now married to when I entered the industry. I've never dated as a ''hooker'' and I've never dated clients. Typically within two months of going steady the girl will start to want to know your n count. You date insane people. No one normal asks this directly. This is not necessarily a bad thing -…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:38 AM
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Why? It's not ''joke's on them'' in any way, shape or form. It's literally just that I don't care -- I answered the question posed in the OP. What do you want me to do? Pretend that I give a fuck to stroke your ego?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:36 AM
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Pam Anderson is not sexy in that photo or hot. She's just fake. Young Pam Anderson, OTOH -- like Babe Watch era Pam = both hot and sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:50 AM
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she was a 10/10 in minuature lol, the shortest girl I have ever seen in my entire life. So, 5'7?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:49 AM
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Because it's reddit. Selection bias. Men in the real world are not more into ''cute'' than hot or sexy, imo, and beautiful (striking, a combination of all three) wins out every day. Watch cute girls vs sexy girls at night clubs, for instance -- cute girls are definitely losing. What is more attractive is highly dependent on context. Cute reigns supreme on reddit because cute is not threatening and attainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:47 AM
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He cannot unless she wants him to. That's the honest to god truth. The girl in your picture could wear something different, say she had an n-count of 3 and voila you would all of a sudden believe her. Honestly. Men's judgements about n-count are superficial, arbitrary and constantly shifting. It's fine that you make them (no one cares!) -- just stop trying to claim that there's some objective truth to them or that they matter at all for anything in the world except your dick, your ego and their …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:45 AM
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19 only has two syllables, so I guess that feels low? Lmao, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:42 AM
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Not a helpful answer to the question. Perhaps. But it's the only answer that's going to be truthful. There's no objectivity here, tbh. People are not hamburgers and even so that analogy doesn't really hold up because the burger is only ''better'' by a very particular metric (culturally sanctioned), which you are for some reason claiming is ''objective''. It's not objective. It may be hegemonic or normative in our culture but that doesn't make it objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:39 AM
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Yeah, eyebrows on fleek is probably the most critical part of my Bad Bitch game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:33 AM
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You hear from one person that one of them had three sexual partners in his life, and you also hear that the other is a 20-year-old virgin. Which description of essentially the same guy is more attractive? Both are unattractive to me now. I would have considered both as an option at 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:29 AM
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I'm curious about this, too! It's so oddly specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:25 AM
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Holy shit! It's almost like that thing women in this sub have been saying forever is true?! What. Incidentally, some girl at work drinks was recently talking about the casual sex she has via Tinder and she looked at me, flipped her hair and covered her mouth and went, ''Oh, I bet I'm scandalising lolly. The idea of something like tinder has probably never even occurred to her.'' Hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:24 AM
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I dressed more like that when I was a virgin than I do now. I had a weird thing for crop tops when I went out when I was eighteen. Didn't really get drunk, though -- tucked into bed by 11 because I was too shy to dance with all the other kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:21 AM
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Girls tell you. That's how. They straight up tell you. Every time. What?! Who the fuck are you dating? No one is ever like, ''Oh, I've slept with X many people, btw'' just casually on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:19 AM
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You first. I bet you think you ''held frame'' nicely in this interaction. Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:13 AM
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Worked out fine for me! But I was a traditional escort not a sugar baby and I entered the industry with my partner's knowledge + gave him veto power -- very particular set of circumstances. Anecdotally, most of the escorts I know are married to ''good'' men depending on what you mean by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:10 AM
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Lol are you sure this woman isn't just manipulating you into thinking she's mentally 6 so she can fuck you over?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:08 AM
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Sure. That's kind of irrelevant to the point I was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:08 AM
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I think a lot of liberals just don't state that preference because its socially unacceptable I think the vast majority of people don't state the preference because it's socially unacceptable. But I think in very liberal areas (note, not where people vote liberal, but where people are progressive in terms of attitudes. Like, where I grew up, everyone votes for the conservative party because money reasons, but everyone fucks everyone and no one cares) it's often actually a non-issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:07 AM
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things like 'lack of self control' sounds like bizarre bullshit but to psychologist who devote their lives to human behavior it's pretty straight forward. I have interacted with many pschologists. This is not a thing. They are very aware of the difference between sex addiction and promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:05 AM
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I've introduced her to essentially everything she knows. You married a woman who didn't go to school or have parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 07:23 PM
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Yeah there are jesus dildos and buttplugs. Enough said, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 07:19 PM
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Gross gross gross. Shocks as punishment is disgusting. I can't believe that's still happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 07:16 PM
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"men generally but not universally have an aversion to sluts for LTRs" In which case I agree, but not in particularly liberal places and circles. I would add that the aversion is generally to women who appear to be slutty (ie read trashy) or have openly fucked a shit ton of people in his social circle. Not to women who actually just have a lot of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 07:14 PM
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There's another guy who is an actual altrighter who believes in shit like planet x, Lol random, but my mum believes in Planet X and she's not even an altrighter or on meth. That's really interesting to hear about -- all of my experiences of psych wards have been in my twenties and I've never stayed for too long. I can't really imagine growing up in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 07:13 PM
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Yeah that sounds like a system that's bound to disservice people to me :(
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 07:11 PM
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The question remains: what ''age and demographic' (young, college aged) other than the one I am discussing is relevant to this thread? If you want to talk about them and your experiences with them, let's have that conversation. This one has been pointless. This is you all but admitting that you are disagreeing with me based on your experiences of 46yos: Me: Well, you're 46. I'm talking about my generation You: Hence why my reply several comments ago was "Well, maybe for your age and location dem…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 07:03 PM
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Ah, okay. That seems really unfair to me -- there's a formal structure shutting certain kids out of higher education?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:59 PM
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'm talking about kids who lived in residential psych wards from ages 12-18 or were in juvenile hall. Sure, but these people aren't the only people who take acid. And it's not as if the world is split into ''straight A preps'' and ''people who had to grow up in psych wards''.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:57 PM
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of our strong IEPs that barred us from even taking classes with the normal kids. What's an IEP? This is so weird to me. Everyone I know just did acid on the sly. It wasn't some huge deal. I'm not talking about straight A preps who drop the occasional molly. I like that, too. So I guess 1 nerd stereotype is holding true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:54 PM
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zero people i hangout with have straight a's plus drop acid and have illicit sex. these are mutually exclusive in my social group. Eh. All the people I dropped acid with were smart cookies who got the equivalent of straight As. Most of them have gone into academia. Did you know that the guys who invented the human genome (rlly smart scientists!) were dosing themselves on acid daily for the creativity boost? Acid is not exclusively some stupid musician drug. This isn't the type of person i'm talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:50 PM
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they're not the same as the ppl who are paired at 24 who also normally get ace on their school tests - the paired at 24 are true "white beta" types. I got married at 24 and my husband is also mid-twenties. PPD already knows just how much of a goody 2 shoes I am, but he is a musician & former avid festival-goer and LSD-dropper etc who used to have threesomes in vans all the time. We both aced all of our tests at school and graduated summa cum laude. s maybe not a full blown mental illness but som…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:46 PM
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No, I haven't. You said it was different outside of my age and demographic (young, college-aged) and then made reference to your own experiences (the experiences of a 46yo) to back this up. So you're either needlessly talking about what things were like 20 years ago or 46yo party girls. Either way, I concede your point. I just think it's irrelevant. If you meant something else, please do explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:35 PM
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Well, maybe for your age and location demographic, but I think that's an overly-broad claim that you can't possibly back up" This thread is legit about feminists on college campuses today. It's not about twenty years ago. I don't know why you're trying to make this about 46yo party girls. But I concede -- things are likely different among 46yo party girls and ravers. That's a very particular crowd, indeed. you're the one who made an assertion that someone was a feminist based on a picture solely…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:31 PM
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casual sex isn't validating at all, but knowing I was desirable was. Yes, same for the most part. Sex is sometimes cathartic and I have used it for emotional purposes in the past but not for validation. when I was younger, the attention felt powerful. It gets old quickly for most women, I think. It's such a shallow kind of power and you get resentful re: how much attention people pay toward your body/appearance pretty fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:30 PM
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Genera universal, yes There is no such thing as a general universal. This is a huge oxymoron. And imo, this one is not even a general trend in a lot of places and circles. It depends on where you are and the kind of crowd you are in. My ''sleeping around'' only made me seem more valuable in the circles I was in, tbh. It was like an, ''everybody wants her!'' kind of thing. The slutty, hedonistic people all just date each other. We don't ''get'' people who don't sleep around -- it's a different mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:26 PM
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I legit said, ''You do you, no one cares''. So I'm asking you why you bothered to tell me this, given that I'd already said that I didn't care in my original comment. I think you might have meant to reply to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:22 PM
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Well, you're 46. I'm talking about my generation. I'd believe that this was different over 20 years ago, of course. Really, because actual data disagrees. Restrict it to college campuses, tho. We are talking about a certain social sphere -- middle class, reasonably affluent, sex positive, educated. These women tend to be feminists ime. I mean, weren't you a hooker at some point? That alone sort of puts you into the "not standard life experience" bucket. Yes. This does not change the fact that I …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:19 PM
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100% this -- so fucking spot on. Men don't seem to get that you don't need to be fucking people to get validation & attention for your body -- I think because this doesn't happen for very many men. And honestly, why fuck people for validation all the time? I feel like this one is commonly touted but a bit off-base. Fucking people to salve emotional issues/to escape via temporary high, feel a bit less lonely, I absolutely buy. But for additional validation? Most women are just going to wear somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:14 PM
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My own fault for directly asking. I think it's a stupid thing to ask, but if it's important for you to know, how else are you going to get this info?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:11 PM
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I think that preference is universal, it's just not the top priorit Disagree. Lots of guys are into their partner sleeping with multiple people -- it's a fetish because some people like it that much. This is patently untrue on the face of it. (And I am not trying to say that most guys who ''don't care'' have this fetish -- the fetish just disproves what you said pretty thoroughly). When it comes to human sexuality there really aren't any universals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:07 PM
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How old are you? I have partied in a lot of places (Singapore, South Africa, NYC, Belgrade, every Australian city etc). This honestly seems to hold true across most cities. You'd be hard pressed to find many women of the current generation who don't identify as feminists, tbh. If you mean did I have detailed discourse about gender politics with many demographics of students? Yes I did. No. I mean -- did you specifically ask party girls at night clubs about their feminism? Because, you know, surp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:03 PM
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They stay single, obviously. I honestly don't think I would have cared if I never found someone suitable to marry. Single life was great.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:59 PM
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Have never ever seen anyone argue with bald preference -- unless bald preference is universalised and that universalisation is projected onto specific people & their relationships. And then, yeah, obviously people argue. For example, in the thread about sociopathic fake flirting high n-count people, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:57 PM
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Omg that is amazing, hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:51 PM
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Yeah. It's weird. This generation is a bit too risk averse for its own good, generally speaking (going by stats. I never meet the risk-averse people in person, apart from 1 or 2 old high school friends).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:50 PM
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It's how the "easy party girls" Yeah. And these people are often feminists. Sex positive + into drugs = feminist, 85% of the time. The ''easy party girls'' and the feminists are often the same people. Were you asking these girls about their feminism? I don't think I ever spoke to a single guy at a nightclub/rave/bush doof about feminism -- it wasn't what I was there to do. And I was very much an activist in college (altho not strictly speaking a ''feminist'' due to various theoretical angstings …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:47 PM
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Yes. Same photo. Shouldn't have said ''shirt'' -- that style of bralette top. It screams campus feminist to me. This was how the feminists on my campus dressed at parties. shrug
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:42 PM
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im sure theres 1 billion men of types i dont care for any way who would have avoided me because of it, but that left the other billion men who didnt care). that being said i am from a different generation that came up during a different, more exploratory phase of the sexual revolution, i think a lot of more hesitant millenials are the aftermath It's the same in the party/club scene today. Millenials are a weird generation, imo. It's like 10% of us who are having all of the sex and doing all of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:41 PM
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he only men that care about n-count are either unattractive or have crippling insecurity; so not men that they care about in the first place. Either this or from a conservative background. Can be attractive, but definitely not for me if you're from a conservative background, even remotely religious etc. So I don't care. I know very few people who aren't conservative or religious who are super ''emotional'' about sex and view it as this grand bonding experience that can only be shared with people…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:37 PM
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The problem is with the stupid rationalizations they offer for why. When you give reasons, especially ones that involve simple nonsense speculations about the interior lives of or actual experiences of women, it lends itself to being argued with. You don't need reasons and justifications for why. Just say "ew, no high n count women for me ty" Yeah, it's the bizarre bullshit about ''lack of self control'' etc that makes people argue. Like, mate, no, I self-controlled myself all the way into Chad'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:30 PM
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Nah, I got married. Fingers crossed your friend also comes into some wits, soon, so he doesn't need you to try and solicit for him via PPD, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:27 PM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:26 PM
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The way her hair is styled and her choice of shirt. She reminds me of one of the biggest feminists on my campus -- they're legit basically doppelgangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:26 PM
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No because with a switch (which is what I am), it's part of their sexuality and something they actively desire. With these guys, they're just letting me do my switchy thing because I enjoy it and they like to see me happy. This is like the difference between a girl who's naturally submissive and a girl who will enjoy acting submissive on occasion/faking to please her boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:25 PM
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I'm not sure why you've bothered to tell me this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:24 PM
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But it reminds me of how women often enough will look at the last 1-3 months at best to judge how something is or what pattern to be expected. What someone's used to as you're putting it. So while in a relationship then, the last 1-3 months is full of having sex regularly, so going a week feels like a dry spell, while outside of a relationship not having sex regularly over the last 1-3 months makes a week not feel like a dry spell. A lot of us have been in relationships for years on end. It's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 01:23 PM
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Hahaha, omg, what.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 01:21 PM
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I think they usually just feel strongly about the shit they're ''white-knighting'' about. I feel like RPers think any man who gives a fuck about women's issues is a white knight & this is not true. For people who are actually speaking up because they think women are delicate little flowers who need to be ''protected'' by white knights -- benevolent sexism, duh. It's just a different kind of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 01:18 PM
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Lol I would just find crying at Jane Austen quirky. ''Dude, you get really overwhelmed by the beautiful irony of the scene where Elizabeth harshly rejects Darcy?!" Wouldn't be something I'd break up with someone over (altho it isn't something I can really even imagine a real person doing).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 01:16 PM
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Assuming she did want the study to prove that sexism exists, she would've had an incentive to work harder, to project a bit more confidence and certainty, to interact differently with clients, to do SOMETHING differently and better than she did as part of her usual routine. Because that would lead to the desired evidence: people taking her more seriously. And she didn't have the incentive to do things differently when her boss was harrying her and her job was on the line? The motivation provided…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 01:11 PM
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I've never felt super attractive (I know I am attractive, but I don't ''feel'' super cognizant of this all the time). Probably 21 or 24 (now), I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 01:06 PM
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No one cares, just do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 01:04 PM
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No. This is bizarre. All sex is the result of ''seduction''. If your ''seduction'' involves violating someone's consent, then yes, I would consider it rape. Suppose a woman initially says "no". The man seduces the women into later nullifying that "no" and have sex with her. On the face of it, the answer to this is of course not. But what method of ''seduction'' did he use to get her to change her mind? For example, was his idea of seduction chilling out with her for a few more hours, lightly esc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 01:03 PM
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2 weeks when not in a relationship. In a relationship 24hrs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 01:00 PM
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Most of the party girls I hung out with in college were feminists. Sorry, this is just not true. The girl in that first photo in particular looks like she'd be a feminist to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 12:59 PM
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Perhaps part of it is is you valuing love in general. These men love you, even if no longer romantically, and that's not very easy to replace, it has worth. Yes. Probably. Deep love is not easy to replace. That is probably also why they value me being in their lives. Is there an ex you still have contact with that is more of a threat that your man isn't friends with? Yep. Old FWB where things got very blurry. Probably more ''dangerous'' because we never really got a chance to see where things we…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 12:58 PM
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Yes. Acknowledging that everyone is not an Edgelord Automaton who has read Fight Club too many times is ''Blue Pill denial''. Have all the RP cookies!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 12:57 PM
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I just disagree. Look, re: penis size a whole range can be encountered and is within the range of normal. If I were going based on my own experiences, I would say that most men are 7.5 inches + and that's obviously not true or normal. (And no, I'm not some idiot who can't estimate properly. I always burn through magnum and XXL condoms -- gotta use the right size to keep that safe sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 12:55 PM
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Not pencil dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 12:52 PM
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f you agreed to hook up with a guy you knew beforehand was strictly a male dominant (in the bdsm sense) what are the odds that he would gladly allow himself to be handcuffed or restrained in any way? I hook up with these guys all the time (I am into dominating men, but also into getting dominated). They're my faves. They always let me tie them up at some point, usually smiling and laughing at how ''cute'' I am. It's fun. They're very much like, ''let the little tiger play. This is fun/enjoyable'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 12:51 PM
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Nope nope nope. Are they all equally powerful? Probably not, but ex-fiancee is definitely not the most ''powerful'' in terms of the most threatening. Equals offer better opportunities in general and are who you practice game with. Don't worry about it, sure, you act because of it regardless. You just don't make any sense. Such determination to make everything bleak. Kudos, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:45 PM
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13 inch dicks don't exist either. Lol. Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:26 PM
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Do you honestly think that everyone with a huge dick is going to put it on record & that massive dicks therefore ''don't exist''? Lmao. Anyway, this guy: http://theinterrobang.com/guy-actually-worlds-largest-penis/ 8 inches is not the upper end of normal, in fact it's in the top 1 That's still normal. Just like 3.5 is still ''normal'' (the lower end of normal). Being with a guy with a dick that big was frankly extremely unpleasant (nothing like being with a guy with an 8 inch or 9 inch dick). He…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:16 PM
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Yes, yes and yes. Glad to see you trying to keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:03 PM
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Btw 14 inch dicks don't exist Lol no they do. I know the internet told you this, but it's not true. Was she talking about this in front of her partner? ''Huge dick'' often means like 8 inches for a woman. That's not ''huge'' imo. It's the upper end of normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:03 PM
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It isn't a downgrade? I thought the hierarchy went I tend to just think of those relationships as ''different''. If anyone viewed themselves as having been ''downgraded'' then a friendship would be impossible. Ex & I just view things as ''different'' now. It would remind my of old sweet feelings, which only gets in the way of the new relationship. It's just nostalgia for me. Doesn't make the feelings reoccur or distract any more than any other pleasant memory. I was well and truly done with that…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:02 PM
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It's amazing how you must be power aware, but still try to act like you're not. Lol. I tend to just play with equals so I don't have to worry about that. Yes but this isn't mutually exclusive with what I said. It kind of is. Because if my husband were befriending my ex-fiancee to try and ''neutralise'' the threat then he would be doing that with everyone I'm friends with & have fucked or expressed attraction to. Which is a lot of people. Including my female best friend and his ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:59 PM
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Because for women, huge dick does not = better sex. It's legit like saying, ''my ex had blue eyes''. I have told people that my Not Boyfriend in high school had a 14inch dick and this was, probably, part of why we never managed to consummate things (in addition to me being very confused about my sexuality in general). I have not said this as some kind of, ''omg I miss his huge cock!'' statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:53 PM
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do you navigate a relationship with someone that was downgraded from lover to friend? It all seems very awkward to me. I don't view it as a downgrade and neither does he. It was hard at first emotionally -- he didn't want our engagement to end, I did, it wasn't great. We took some no contact time (like a month or something) and then reconnected. We've been fabulous friends ever since. It would be difficult for me to fully focus on my new partner, if I still paid attention to the previous one. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:47 PM
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Lol, no, this doesn't work. Every sane woman knows that when a man says he wants to hear about your past exploits, he doesn't really. He wants to hear about what you wish you'd done in the past so that he can do it in the future with you. Even if she is open with you about it, she's never going to say, ''Oh, btw, that sex I had with Larry blew my mind so much more than the sex I have with you!" She'll link everything back to how fantastic your sex in the present is going to be. (This is honestly…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:43 PM
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By befriending a man below you that wants your woman you mostly neutralize the chance of him being a threat. Gross. The idea of people thinking of each other as ''below'' and ''above'' each other in social interactions is kind of disgusting. This is not what's happening with my ex & my husband -- they just genuinely like each other. My husband is not friends with another close friend of mine (former FWB) because he doesn't like him that much. It's not that weird. It's people being friends with w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:39 PM
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Yes, they do. Welcome to the real world where everyone is not an automaton or an Edgelord who's read Fight Club too many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:35 PM
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If you needed something you could count on them to help you, especially if it was truly important. He gets the same thing from me, lol. What benefit does he see in keeping you around? We're very close friends. The same benefit you get from keeping any close friend around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:34 PM
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Well. I started dating someone new a few months after ex-fiancee and I broke up. I slept with someone new fairly soon after, too. In the sense that you are talking about ''replacement'' I do replace them -- I mean, I am married now. But I don't ever lose contact. That person's presence in my life is irreplaceable. I'll value & treasure them forever. I don't stop loving them once the relationship is over -- the love just changes form as I said earlier. I was dumped, they cut contact and replace m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:33 PM
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What if they are stupid for to structural oppression and economic disenfranchisement? Sounds more like ignorance. because of shit genetics that they couldn't choose? I'm not using stupid to mean low IQ, obviously. I'm using it to mean exasperating & possibly brutish. This is generally not a genetic affliction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:29 PM
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Once the relationship is over, he can be replaced. I don't think he's replaceable. I don't think of any of my exes as replaceable (altho I am not close to the other, we're just on friendly terms. He finds keeping up with me painful). This attitude is bizarre to me. How could you view someone you love/d as replaceable?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:24 PM
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No, I love the men, not what they ''offer'' me (which is what? Friendship?). Stop being ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:22 PM
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Keeping the men she's hooked throughout her life keeps her opportunities and options open. wtf? what options do I have as a result of this?! lmao. Classic SetConsumes. You know, my ex-fiancee (man) clearly also sees the benefit in keeping me (ex-lover) around. This sort of doesn't work at all if both men and women don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:20 PM
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Nah, I don't think you get it -- I haven't (generally) been dating my friends. But my lovers become my friends after the relationship is done. I don't like going no contact. I don't know what's so hard to understand about this/why you're still acting like I can't let go, or this is ''risky''. It's not. It's just not what you do. All good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:19 PM
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I only hate stupid ones. I do not think AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:17 PM
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Because they are my friends. The merits are the same as keeping in contact with any friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 04:11 PM
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You still deal with that pain when you let go of them and keep them in your life. They get moved into a different capacity. It's not like I'm still pining for my ex. I just don't get not maintaining contact with someone who was that much a part of your life, whom you loved. YMMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 04:02 PM
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Don't get it -- implies to me that your bond with your previous partners was kind of ''weak''. I'd get it if you were too hurt to remain friends, but the whole, ''I loved you, but now I'm just moving on and I don't care'' screams to me that you didn't actually love the person very much. I am the same with romantic partners I've loved as I am with friends & family. Vice-like grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:55 PM
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Idk. I don't think that's how it works. A person with a high IQ still has a high IQ even if they don't use it. A guy with a Masters degree is still educated even if he works waiting tables etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:52 PM
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I never, ever let go of people I love. I'm vice-like. If I love you, it's there permanently -- it's like energy, it can take on new forms but will never be destroyed -- and you will always be in my life in some capacity. My love for my exes is totally platonic now, but it's still there, so particularly with my ex-fiancee, we are close friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:51 PM
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Right, so, it's not that he's not top 20% its, ''Dude, you're top 20% and you still can't get laid? What's up with that?!'' I said nothing abt top tier physique or money. Just reasonably fit & young.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:43 PM
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Keeping exes around as friends...I don't want to worry my future partners, or create unnecessary temptation. My husband is not worried. He goes rock climbing with my ex -- they're friends, too. I am not ''tempted'' in any way by my ex, haha. Been there, done that. He's engaged, his partner is also friends with me. I meant the sentiment, not literal ghosts. I was being flippant, but what I meant was that there is no need to bring ''ghosts from the relationship'' into the present if you continue b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:42 PM
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Why? Doesn't that just mean he should be getting laid and we have to question what else is wrong with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:39 PM
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Keeping up with her wouldn't be conducive to any future relationships. Nor is keeping up with any of my friends, tho. Of course I also use my LTRs as ''lessons learned'' -- I just am also still close friends with the dude. I don't bring ghosts into future relationships. Lol, neither do I. My ex is alive, dw, I didn't kill him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:37 PM
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7.5 to 8.5 is my ideal. I don't really like 9+. 5.5+ is more than acceptable. I dated a guy with a micropenis once and it's not something I'd care to repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:34 PM
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lollll.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:33 PM
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Well, tbh, just being physically fit basically puts you in the top 20% given that everyone in the US is fat. Also being young? Done. Probably more like top 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:32 PM
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What do you think the requirements are?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:17 PM
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No, I mostly figure out as quickly as possible whether this person is fit for marriage, and then either end it or proceed slowly. Most of my relationships are STR - otherwise I'm wasting time. So you've never had a LTR? I got engaged to my first boyfriend and de facto married, lived with my next and got married to my third. I thought they were all marriageable at various points in time and then changed my mind because priorities were not aligned or changed. It would be weird for me to never talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:17 PM
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Have you had many LTRs? People come up in important stories etc. If I were to never, ever mention my exes, I would have to elide four formative years of my life and/or tell a whole bunch of stories really strangely. I don't really talk about exes in terms of lessons, toxicity etc. I think that's not a great practice, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:03 PM
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IMO approximately 80% of guys have deluded themselves into thinking that they fall into this category and exclusively pursue the most attractive upper percentiles of women, all while complaining that those women only want to date guys as attractive as they are. Yep, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:45 PM
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The problem is that unattractive men complain that giving an attractive woman any attention at all (just looking at her, saying hi, etc.) is perceived as creepy. Yeah, the thing is, it can be. If a guy in his sixties stares at a hot, young girl then yeah, that's going to be creepy 90% of the time -- it's unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:41 PM
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Usually one considers it courtesy to never speak about exes - treat 'em like they're dead. Not in a LTR, ime. Most people talk about their exes a little -- not extensively. But to avoid all mention would be weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:39 PM
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Yeah, he looks really masculine in the photos where he doesn't look gay. liberal activist men, but not especially for women's right. So what were they activists for? MRAs aren't liberal, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 12:58 PM
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o femsplain my motivations to me. IDGAF about what motivates your hatred. Just that it's there. Your prejudice is clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 12:54 PM
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<3 Oh, incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 12:52 PM
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Rest of the thread doesn't explain your answer. Why don't you just answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 12:52 PM
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I would view this guy as more fuckable, not less fuckable, for that post. I don't know men being activists for women's right that aren't huge white knights incels. Maybe because you don't know many liberal men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 10:28 AM
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And they don't. The UK does not approve applications for asylum status from economic migrants. Why are you so riled up about economic migrants?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 10:21 AM
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I do validate and comfort my wife, but at first I did not come up as a friend or an emotional help. I used to do it but I learned it the hard way that it's not going to work. Yeah but the strategy of trying to be friends with someone in order to get in their pants and ''white knighting'' via political activism aren't the same thing. I'm not sure why you're conflating them. It's truly bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 10:16 AM
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Not really. Are you running for you life or are you hopping to whichever country has the best benefits system? Right. But a lot of people get called ''economic migrants'' when they really are not & so there's a perception that the majority of refugees are economic migrants when this isn't the case. Economic migrants usually have asylum claims rejected & don't wind up living in the community. France is hella racist, tbh. It ghettoises communities and there are a lot of barriers re: freedom of rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 10:11 AM
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The problem with white knight is that they behave like women, they validate and comfort women How is this the case? What about taking a political stance, going to a march & lambasting a gross dude on social media (white knight behaviour as described by you) = acting like a woman? I don't want a partner who doesn't validate or comfort me. Wtf. Why would anyone want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 10:08 AM
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you see a man as lesser when he tries to be like a woman/to be your friend... And by lesser I mean you just don't see him as a potential sexual partner, not that you think he's garbage and subhuman. No, I don't. I see men who share my beliefs as the only viable sexual partners, tbh. I don't think a man going to a woman's march is trying ''to be like a woman''. Why would I willingly fuck someone who was pro-life? I wouldn't. I find pro-lifers gross. for women to tell me they will never see their …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:59 AM
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Because the UK has the resources to do both, frankly. I don't think that the homeless should be prioritised lower than refugees & I'm not sure many people on the left would take that position. Refugee policy & open borders is complex -- there are countries in Europe that absolutely should not have open borders because they cannot cope with their current population's poverty (Greece, for example). The UK is not one of those countries. If you were to be a multimillionaire who spoke very loudly abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:57 AM
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To an extent, yes. But attention from an attractive man can also be unwanted and perceived as creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:52 AM
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Yes, but that is a huge part of what they do. It's always been one of their major campaigns. It would be strange to work for Amnesty and be opposed to their refugee policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:46 AM
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Surely if these people are so kind and helpless she can spare a few rooms in her mansions for them? Do you also think everyone who advocates for there being more adequate/affordable housing for the homeless needs to house homeless people themselves? I find this stance odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:43 AM
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especially if this was in the 80's that was before we were even in the EU so there were no open borders. Yeah, Amnesty International has always, always supported open borders and political asylum. Rowling's opinions re: refugees and human rights seem to stem from her experiences working at Amnesty. Idk how anyone who didn't believe in open borders for refugees could work for Amnesty considering that this is a huge part of what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:42 AM
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the fact he's a beta white knight that will be considered a lesser man by the women he seeks validation from, he's basically trying to be one of them. Okay. I've literally never, ever seen a man as ''lesser'' because he's pro-choice etc. This is bizarre to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:40 AM
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Eh, I think whether or not you're comfortable having people in your home is a personal decision. Not sure she necessarily has to open her home for her political opinions to be valid. I just take exception to the idea that all of the ''lefties'' who say we should be more open re: refugees are unwilling to do this. Perhaps it's because I know many people who benefited from open refugee policy in Aus following Vietnam and human rights atrocities in China, but I know a lot of people who would do thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:39 AM
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She's got a wider platform now, but yeah she worked for Amnesty International in the 80s as a researcher & Amnesty International works pretty hard on the refugee integration & humanitarian fronts (it's in keeping with International Human Rights Law). Pretty safe to assume this has always been her stance, tbh and that she's always been fairly left/fairly SJW.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:36 AM
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For real tho if all these virtue signalling luvvies really care so much, they need to pool their money together and fucking do something about it instead of expecting the taxpayer to fork out. I have provided halfway housing to people in need in the past (a homeless woman, a gay teen who'd been kicked out of home and yes, a refugee -- Afghani, lol). Dunno why people think no one is willing to do this -- this doesn't seem like a big deal to me, tbh. I'd gladly put my money where my mouth is again…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:19 AM
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'preaching from the ivory tower''. Yes, but she's been preaching the same thing since the 80s -- back when she was poor as fuck and would have had to encounter these people daily. This has been consistent for her. I'm not sure you can call this ''preaching from the ivory tower''. Or that you can really say a woman who grew up in a housing commission, went on to be an unemployed single mother etc is that incapable of identifying with common people. "Probably." Lol. Well idk how charities use thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:16 AM
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No woman is going to tell you that you're worse in bed than a previous lover, especially if you ask. No one will want to hurt your feelings or enter that landmine emotional space.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:14 AM
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you need to market yourself. You don't need to think that everyone thinks exactly like you in order to market yourself. This doesn't follow. In the sense that I load my sentences with "IMO" and such things and don't really often force things as general truth? In the sense that your language is not concrete. This is not about qualifiers -- it's about the way that things follow. Your connections are very ''vague''. I don't get what it means :( Don't care about women and children generally unless t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:07 AM
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is she funding the refugee accommodation She is funding refugee accommodation, probably. She gives a lot of money to charities that are involved with refugees & charities that are involved with homelessness. Both seem to be issues she cares about. Idk. She used to work for Amnesty International -- I would assume she's had plenty of firsthand experience with people seeking political asylum. I'm not sure it's fair to call this one ''preaching from the ivory tower''.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:03 AM
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Yes. So if you're in the top 20 of the top 20 (AKA the top 4% overall) then this is what can happen for you. That is what I said above, except I said top 5%, so I've been a bit more lenient than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:55 AM
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The average woman I interact with daily = my friends & my colleagues. Colleagues are all super-well educated, slim to the point of being skinny, styled very corporate (lots of black, lots of designer). One or two of my older colleagues are overweight and dress frumpily, but that's not the norm. My friends are all 20-30, most have been involved in some kind of modelling so they're all reasonably hot, have artistic pursuits, dress in very particular ways, hipster, liberal, degree + education or in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:52 AM
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Have concrete examples? I am curious. The way you talk is a lot less forceful than the way the majority talk. You exhibit lower ''protection'' instincts than the majority. You think very differently about fitness. You are in STEM. Women regularly bump into you on the street. You gotta have that mentality to succeed in life :p I have never met anyone remotely successful who had this mentality. , I just wanted us to agree that it had to do with what is perceived in his message. Well wtf else would…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:46 AM
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Yeah, that doesn't make what I said above incorrect. Just being in the ''top 20% of men'' isn't getting you sex with heaps of different babes within an hour of meeting them, that's an absurd suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:41 AM
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hat is this? Piece of shit. There's necessarily a white knight interest. Source: I'm a stereotypical man. Ahahahaha, no you're not. You don't sound anything like the majority of men I've encountered in my life. Why do you think that the way you think is universal? Solipsism. I am saying that people that feel hate and disgust will write articulate messages loaded with hate and disgust. Yep. All those world leaders delivering calm speeches in response to terrorist attacks = not really feeling hatr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:35 AM
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Why does the thought process have to be ''only value''? My thought process has always been: ''These guys all want to fuck me. Therefore sex is one of my values/power cards. I can use that to my advantage sometimes''. Admittedly, I didn't use Tinder for long and I sort of leaned more toward 3 on Tinder b/c Tinder attentions seems crazy worthless -- but in real life, yeah, the thought process of 1 but amended & dependent on context.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:24 AM
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When you are average and act like hot shit, that generally gets you more success than acting like you are average. This is true for women in a lot of situations, too -- but they're not socialised to behave like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:21 AM
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The fact his message is not loaded with feelings strongly makes me think he is attention whoring, therefore probably a beta white knight and not a gay. Why? When I want to make a point persuasively and effectively, I tend to deliver it in a way that isn't ''emotional meltdown!''. This is dumb. Of course he's looking for ''attention'' -- he wants attention to be drawn to how much of a POS this guy is. He wants people to pay attention and block/unfriend etc so that there are consequences for the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:17 AM
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It depends on what it suits RP to say in that particular moment. They will tell you ''no'' here and then claim that anyone who can get casual sex is a top 20%er in other threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:13 AM
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being a part of the sexual elite means one would be able to sleep with a variety of different women, perhaps within the very hour of first meeting them. This is not the top 20%. This is the top 5%. The top 20% is just a dude who's youngish, not overweight, doesn't have acne, dresses decently and has a job. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:12 AM
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There's just no hint that he's gay, it's way more likely that this man is a white knight and it does really look like it. Eh, he seems super bi to me -- from his uses of ''we''. That's obviously not something I can know for sure, but its an inkling. His message is measured, it doesn't look like something you write out of disgust or hate. He seems pretty disgusted to me. a gay person would talk more emotionally than he did. Dafuq?? You ever meet any gay people. Watch Brokeback Mountain. Not all g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:05 AM
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Creepiness = nebulous term = unwanted attention. I agree with this, but I don't think ''unwanted attention'' is that nebulous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:04 AM
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There's nothing misogynistic about expressing desire. Wtf. I would personally be like, ''No, nice try'' to this guy on tinder & then move on. I'd treat everyone I matched with the same (b/c I wouldn't match with guys I didn't want to fuck, what would be the point?). Yes, this kind of thing becomes ''creepy'' from ugly men because it is often unwanted and the unwanted part is what makes it creepy (not the fact that they're ugly, but the fact that they're ''forcing'' sexual attention you don't wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:02 AM
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I think any Asian person would be disgusted by the comments re: Chinks. Also from the way that he uses ''we'' in his posts, I strongly suspect that he's not a straight man, so this is kind of a bullshit argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:54 AM
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How do you know that this is the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:52 AM
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not metaphorically, like, they made off with their money and/or posessions. bad times all around. Lmao. Hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:51 AM
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I've discussed other men with most of my partners -- not in a vindictive way & I'd never be like, ''omg, your cock could never compare to X's monstercock!'' cause tbh, no one does that. It seems weird to me to pretend that no one's come before/that previous people haven't shaped you/been important in your life. I would find it really weird if my husband never spoke about his significant exes, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:51 AM
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Then I'd probably tell her about when I boned a slimmer girl than her with a tighter pussy. Then Id work out if it would be worth sticking around long enough for her to wreck herself with paranoia about that. Why are you such a vindictive person? Why do you want to harm your partner to ''get even''?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:49 AM
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The Goldicock Zone is a thing. Aha, love it. Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:48 AM
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the average woman, a coke dealer and a very handsome Green Peace executive are equally desirable and to be deferred to, with no moral nuance in play. What's so bad about coke dealers? What's so good about Greenpeace execs? (whatta faffy organisation, tbh).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:47 AM
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misandrist, it's pretty clear cut. Probably cause guys don't overuse words as shaming language. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:44 AM
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Denoting hostile actions motivated by intense dislike or prejudice This is one of the definitions of hate. Your prejudice is causing you to treat women as inferiors & to be hostile towards them via defining them as property, deciding what they ''need'' in terms of decision, treating them as if they are useless apart from as baby-makers. Congratulations. You are misogynistic -- you just didn't understand what hate means.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:43 AM
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This is true but disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:38 AM
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I really don't get how people still think college isn't an orgy. Dating is dead (in college). It's not an orgy except for the people that it was an orgy for. It was an orgy for me towards the end. Before that, I was in a committed relationship, engaged and not fucking around. Think about it. Did you actually fuck everyone at your campus at the parties you went to?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:36 AM
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People shouldn't be on the internet then if they're that easily offended by some random dude online. This was text messaging a woman he actually knew and had been on a date with. This is textbook harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:32 AM
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this fucker Kevin KTran supreme beta white knight? Eh. He was probably just disgusted that he knew someone so disgusting. Making a facebook post doesn't take a ton of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:32 AM
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Not commenting on this guy's douchiness (he deserves whatever he's getting though, frankly). Re: not being able to get a date if you don't have social media -- no, not a thing! I have never googled someone before a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:30 AM
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I didn't see anything in those texts that demonstrated he was 'threatening towards women' or had a 'baseless superiority complex'. Really?!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:28 AM
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Not white, not ''upper class'' (depending on how you define that).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:23 AM
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I am also a non-existent person. Woo, snowflake status achieved!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:16 AM
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Hahahaha -- you lucky thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:13 AM
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Apparently there are 39 men in the whole of the US for me. It's a wonder I'm married, haha. Entered hubby's stats. Apparently there are 2 dudes like him in the US. Lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:08 AM
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I've seen good reviews for that model.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:01 AM
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Me too! Do not see how someone could get 11 on this and be in a perfectly standard, healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:01 AM
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This is why they think ''average guys'' can't get ''average girls''. Average girls are super successful models. Average guys are milquetoast white dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:56 AM
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I'm going with what people are telling me. I've had men tell me routinely that fear of being perceived as gay, particularly by women/their female partners = why they have never experimented in that way. I don't understand how anyone can get penetrated Your prostate, tho. Male g-spot. Do you think all women hate sex? Haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:55 AM
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Yes. It is well-documented. https://www.cnet.com/news/men-think-theyre-smarter-than-they-so-they-study-science-says-researcher/ https://theconversation.com/shes-just-not-that-into-you-but-you-probably-think-she-is-4779 (not a big fan of evo psych in that last link, but really, there have been countless studies on this).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:53 AM
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It's not a stance that gets a lot of love in the text of any Abrahamic religion. But theory and practice are divorced for a substantial no. of people which is what makes these conversations tricky. There are parts of the Bible that suggest we put people to death for adultery, too. The vast majority of Christians don't hold this position. While it is true that more Muslims hold this position than Christians, the vast majority still don't. Saudi Arabia is exceptionally heinous, even in the Muslim …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:50 AM
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They just struck me as being way too tame. I think pegging, assplay, rimming etc is where a lot of guys start to get squeamish and even that seems more about fear of being perceived as/feeling gay than fear of being dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:47 PM
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There isn't always Stacys around There is if you're Chad, though. Pretty people all hang out with each other. They don't encounter uggos very often. I think cheating still happens in relationships, even long-term ones. Yes, but not every relationship and it's usually not b/c of Chad Thundercock.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:46 PM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:45 PM
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Eh, I think Chad is up for almost anything Ever met Chad? It's not true. If you can have Stacey why take a 2/10? Those can still happen with Chad even after marriage Whut? Stop reading RP. It will warp you and you haven't even been in a relationship yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:34 PM
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You can disagree with her, but it seems pointless to get mad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:33 PM
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women are more socialized to follow their emotions, and moreeee.... apt to allowing themselves to get swept up in it while laying blame at the feet of Chad? No. Women are more socialised not to follow their emotions, tbh. We get called ''crazy'' all the time. This is why there are fewer female stalkers, women who kill their partners, women who commit murder suicide and take their children with them. Women are very ''not crazy'' about sex. They're just perceived as being such. Have never met a gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:24 PM
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: compared with men who have higher levels of global self-esteem (“I am a smart man”), women develop self-worth based on feedback from others (“they like my cooking so I must be a good cook”). Yep. This is why women are better at self-assessment and don't over-inflate their self-worth. It's usually men who do that, tbh -- think they're hot shit when they're really average or below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:10 PM
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I think Stacy is easier to rebuff than Chad would be to a woman. I'd be more worried about Chad moving in on me if I was Hubby. Yeah and wife is more worried about Stacey. It's solipsism to think it's any different. ''Chad'' in the sense that he is described by RP is very, very easy to rebuff. He's the guy you want to have a ONS with, not the guy you want to settle down with. then again, no one's ever looked at me to be either, so it's probably worrying about nothing in the first place. Sorry. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:07 PM
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You realise this is exactly what women think about Chad vs Hubby? Chad is hotter, physically, sure, but hubby is the one who makes you melt because he's a really caring person, you want to go out of your way to nurture him etc because of the way he treats you. Chad is just for fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:01 PM
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Lol <3
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 01:58 PM
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Yes, yes, yes! Some of the most narcissistic, awful, disgusting men I've met have been classic betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 01:55 PM
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guy might be okay with a girl on top but being actually tied down would be too much and he'd nope out of it I've slept with a lottttt of men and maybe like 3 or 4 would have had a problem with me occasionally putting them in handcuffs or using light restraints (usually b/c they had been sexually assaulted in the past). I've never, ever met a guy who had a problem with me being on top. Is that even dominant? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 01:54 PM
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It's mainstream islamic doctrine that the wives should have separate dwellings; Ehhhh, whether it's separate ''dwellings'' or quarters is very unclear. I've always read that to mean their own space in the same house, which is what most Sultan's wives etc actually had. Most Egyptians believe in the death penalty for apostates from Islam but believe in religious freedom for non-Muslims. Class, lol. Google Farag Foda n Naguib Mahfouz. I am familiar with Naguib Mahfouz. Idk have you ever been to Egy…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 01:50 PM
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Low effort, dull snark directed at me Lmao. Hypocrite. Low effort, dull snark directed at me won't make you less of an incel. And I have Mommy Issues, thank you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 01:49 PM
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I promise you secretly want to get whipped and assfucked. All RPers really want a cock up the ass, it's the god given truth & everybody knows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 01:43 PM
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Bull. Shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:41 AM
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Well, then, he's non-alpha in her book. That's okay. This is her definition of what makes a guy alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:40 AM
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Most super dominant men I've been with will occasionally let me go to town when I want to. They find the role reversal hot. I'm not into pegging, especially, but I love dominating guys mentally & physically (restraints, commands).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:39 AM
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Lies. I love dominating the shit out of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:36 AM
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you're crazy if you don't think she's a 10/10 imo Yeah what is up with these guys continually saying this girl is 8/10. Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:30 AM
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With ease. Also, this is dumb. My disgust with Trump and many other political leaders does not mean I have a victim complex. I hate Clinton, too. Is that because I have a victim complex? No, it's because she's shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:18 AM
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What makes their interpretation less valid than yours? The fact that everyone else disagrees with them? Hardly any other nation interprets Sharia like the Saudis do. A number of prominent Islamic jurists have condemned the Saudis. (also the fact that they ignore the actual text a fair bit of the time). Cba to repeat myself for the billionth time, you know already this is not relevant to my argument. I honestly have no idea what your argument is. If it's ''religion is bad'' (which is the place yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:55 AM
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No. Are you just illiterate now? Poor baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:33 AM
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t. Some white woman whose spoken to some bedouin women (far removed from how most ppl, even in Muslim countries, live) isn't going to convince me that it's sunshine n daisies. I am not white. People in this conversation need to stop telling me I'm white, lol. Half of my family is Muslim. I have lived in Egypt for significant periods of time. Islam n most Islamic cultures actually explicitly discourage the wives all living under one roof. Where is this done in Islam? This is cultural, it's not in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:32 AM
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"oh but all this shit Saudi Arabia does isn't actually Sharia." It's how they interpret Sharia -- it's not just Sharia. Sharia is fucked up but not as fucked up as Saudi Arabia interprets it to be. You'll notice I've not been arguing in favour of Christianity either for this exact reason. Fair enough. However... Saudi Arabia does. Yeah, but a lot of the Muslim world doesn't. Saudi Arabia is like...a more intense version of the Vatican. It's unique in terms of what it does/the way it binds religi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:16 AM
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Ehhhh, a lot of my family are Bahai, a lot are standard Muslims. The Muslims consider the Bahai ones to be Muslim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:13 AM
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Bahai, babe. Look it up. They don't rely on any of the Suras, lol. & while many Muslims don't think of them (and the Sufis) as Muslims, they're still drawing on Islamic faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 07:08 AM
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I know. You poor thing. Guys like you cry every time someone disagrees with them on the internet. There, there <3
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 07:01 AM
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heard that from so many photographers who have no self awareness Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 02:19 AM
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but I'm highly confident I could make something very similar if you gave me 1 week to iron out the kinks and about 3 or 4 hours to do the final piece Do you know how big Blue Poles is? It's big. Besides, it's technically complex to get paint to splatter in the way that Pollock did. I've seen a lot of amateur & pro artists try to ''rip it off'' -- nothing ever compares the original.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 02:18 AM
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There is. The distinction you are making is just irrelevant to the point I was making, so I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 02:14 AM
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whenever she visited, much older men would be grabbing her and shit, one even took her phone and put his number in. Honestly I find this so weird. Men mostly just look at me in Egypt, they never touch me. Occasionally they propose or offer to fly me to strange places (it's bizarre. Arab men trying to get you to have sex with them = absolutely ridiculous, ime. Almost as hilarious as men in certain parts of Africa and the offers to buy you cows, lol), but it's mostly just verbal crap. I've had a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 02:12 AM
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I am simply pointing out how fucked up the belief system itself is. It's not, though. There's nothing in the belief system itself about punishing women for rape & there's nothing about ''being in cars with men'' (the Qu'ran was written before there were cars, think abt it). The adultery thing is really common among religious people (we used to ''punish'' people for it when divorce cases came up and still do to an extent. It's why there's a diff bt/wn fault and no fault divorce). Imo, the issue w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 02:03 AM
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I suspect much depends on class just as it does in the West. Yes. Like, I've lived in Egypt, so I'm just sitting here laughing at the way people are portraying it in these comments. It's not like that, although it might be among the very dregs of society. Things have gotten worse since I last spent a signif amount of time there, but I still doubt it's anything like these people are making it out to be ''gang rape on the streets! Common!'' = no. Alcohol is haram but they can smoke weed erryday. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 01:40 AM
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Salty. That wasn't meant argumentatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 01:35 AM
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It doesn't matter because it's still a ridiculous position to hold. I don't really care about your semantic distinctions -- they make no difference in terms of the point I am trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 01:34 AM
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. Again, not a system that's viable unless women are subjugated which is why it comes hand in hand with violent tribal cultures n is non-existent in cultures where women aren't at the mercy of men. Eh, no. It works well in agrarian communities. It's not a terrible evil & I have spoken to many women in these communities, not just read internet forums. It's preferable b/c there is more of a community to work on the land/deal with shared child-rearing responsibilities. Their experiences are differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 01:32 AM
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What does POL mean? I am too unintellectual to understand your obscure internet lingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 01:09 AM
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If he's going with IQ, this is not necessarily the case. I've dated some super smart dudes who weren't educated but were probably IQ 131+ Agree that it seems like this question means ''educated'', tho/a certain kind of ''smart'' (reddit's idea of smart).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 01:07 AM
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I have a real knack for anything creative... so I'm probably biased about how easy it would be. Honestly it sounds like you are overestimating your skill level a lot. The fact that you are saying this & you can't imagine yourself selling a photo for 10k says a lot to me. t's nowhere nearly as difficult to make crazy abstract art as it is to paint a realistic scene. As someone who can paint a realistic scene with ease, you are wrong. I can paint a landscape, portrait etc with incredible detail in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 01:01 AM
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If you genuinely don't understand that America is a ''Christian country'' in the same sense that many of the Muslim countries being discussed here are, I can see why no one has ever fucked you. And lawl, most of the men I've ''known'' have been desperate for me to stay with them to the tune of paying me thousands to tens of thousands of dollars to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 12:54 AM
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Mate, I've lived in Egypt for over a year. I was never assaulted -- I never saw anyone getting assaulted by a gang. I never heard of anyone getting assaulted by a gang. I saw it in the news maybe once or twice. Did you see this happening in Egypt? On what basis are you making this claim? Also, please, getting brutally raped is not a ''cake walk'' whether or not there is one assailant or many. Don't try and defend the position that you took earlier. (Women are gang-raped by good old American and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 12:51 AM
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I never said there was anything wrong with the guys. I just said that they wouldn't be able to see Zadie Smith's beauty, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 12:44 AM
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What a distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 12:43 AM
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Lololol, omg, really? I've never seen him say that. Too hilarious, these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:57 AM
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he's like "but they are Muslims and so are Saudi Arabians so why are you defending them stoning women?" and I just wonder why he can't understand this basic nuance Sounds like it's personal b/c he's had bad experiences with his family. I've got a lot of family like this who hate Muslims b/c they had bad experiences with Islam growing up/saw a terrible side of it. I suspect I would feel the same except I was exposed to both progressive Islam & weird, oppressive Islam.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:56 AM
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First generations actively fight integration and try to prevent their children from integrating. After that, future generations become more moderate. But see here we are talking about immigrants. Go to an actual Muslim country and that strict attitude prevails because, guess what, that is their culture. I am talking about Muslims in North Africa. Not immigrants. My family is...diverse, haha. I actually found that the converts & immigrants were stricter and more fucked up than the born-and-bred M…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:51 AM
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no specific law that bans rape. No it does, because there is a specific law in Sharia that bans rape. Codification (statute) is not required for there to be a specific law banning rape. This is like the difference btwn common law and statute -- it's just that there whole system is common law. You may as well say, ''Saudi Arabia has no laws!'' not actually a crime in Saudi Arabia. No, see above. It is actually a crime. you know what actually is codified in their laws? Prosecuting women for adulte…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:48 AM
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Devout, practicing Muslim women hate it like nothing else. It's a system that can't exist without the subjugation of women. This is not what the ethnography would suggest (not universally anyway & I have never made the claim that polygyny is universally great in practice. There is a difference bt/wn agricultural communities where it has benefits & urban communities etc). http://www.pnas.org/content/112/45/13827.full.pdf Men can also divorce unilaterally literally by just uttering 3 sentences, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:32 AM
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Lmao. Yes, all of the Muslims are waging ''holy war''. Do you even know what jihad means? It means ''struggle''. The sweeping presence of ''jihad'' in Islam does not = they're SAH war-centric comparatively. America has bombed more nations & killed more people than any Islamic country. It is highly influenced by Christianity in terms of its laws etc. Christ, it's like arguing with a parrot with daddy issues. It's like arguing with a fuckwit! Also daddy issues, really? Lmao. Poor little incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:14 AM
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This has happened multiple times in America, lol. This is the actual law in America (common law) -- there is precedent to imprison mentally ill people during trials.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:12 AM
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''But I can't comprehend that all of the Abrahamic religions stem from similar texts and believe in the same God!!'' - incel fag on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 03:21 AM
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Being brought up in a Muslim household is harsh and backwards and isolating. I've seen it with my own eyes. And half my family is Muslim & I've seen both. Harsh, backwards and isolating & perfectly normal. What's your point? My upbringing was arguably harsh & backwards & isolating and there was 0 Islam (or any religion for that matter) involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 03:20 AM
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"Keep in mind, my student, that virtue is not so simple as black and white. There are shades of gray, just as there are shades of repulsiveness in that ancient Arabian war-centric culture." - some hooker on the internet All of the Abrahamic religions are war-centric. What's your fucking point? some hooker on the internet God. You guys will never learn that you can't hurt me by referring to the fact that I was a hooker. Whatever. It is hilarious that you are trying to attack me on the basis of my…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 03:14 AM
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please explain what an edgelord is before i kick you in the cunt Lmao. Just look in the mirror, babe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:24 AM
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You're just another hot mess of white guilt and whataboutism using moral outrage as a salve for your own ridiculous ego. Lol. Muslim women aren't going to defend you from their marauding husbands because you were courageous enough to say that Muslims are people, too, guys, on a website for progressive losers. I've never said anything in support of regressive practices. This is bizarre. The fact that I want to recognise Muslim plurality and not lump every single Muslim nation in with Saudi Arabia…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:24 AM
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Abstract and improv type art may be beautiful but if it's not impressively detailed and hard to achieve, it shouldn't be worth a load of money I think. It is hard to achieve. I have watched many people try and fail to create compelling abstract art. I hope these are photos of extremelty rare or dangerous places lol No, they're conceptually brilliant. Same as Bill Henson (although he's also a bit of a pedo), Mapplethorpe, Andreas Gursky etc Do you not understand the conceptual value of art at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:21 AM
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It's not weird because it's SetConsumes. He also doesn't know any smart women, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:13 AM
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Most of my humor comes from taking things out of context. Whut.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:13 AM
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Yeah all my lady friends are hilarious. Dudes, not so much. That's basically just my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:12 AM
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Capable, Handsome. Who cares if he's a genius as long as he's baseline intelligent I'm good to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:11 AM
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When I was a POW, I didn't mind being forced to sleep naked in a cold cement dungeon and drag my genitals through the hard dirt because it was just how things were. No one was bothered by it. It was normal. Yes. Women wearing a lot of clothing vs no clothing is comparable to being a POW. Of course. You've missed the point. This is not a ''that's just how things are!'' comment, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:07 AM
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People would have a more favorable view of feminism, and there would be more pressure on those countries to do away their laws. Look, I really disagree with this. It's possible that the first is true (more favourable view of feminism), but there wouldn't be more pressure on those countries b/c Saudi Arabia gives no fucks about what the readership of Jezebel thinks, tbh. You're not allowed to talk about certain topics that are actually central to human rights. So that puts a lot of limits on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:05 AM
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Lol I know -- idk why we did this to ourselves. Terrible life decisions all around. See my other reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 01:29 AM
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In Saudi Arabia at least there is no law that specifically makes rape illegal. Marital rape and statutory rape are also A-OK in Saudi. This is not true. Saudi Arabia has no codified legislation (which is where I think people get this idea from), but it follows Sharia law and rape is a crime under Sharia law. Arguably, so is marital rape, but that is obviously not how the law is applied in Saudi Arabia because Saudi Arabia is fucked up. Defend that one, go on. Idk why you think I am a champion of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 01:27 AM
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You're doing it right bloody now! I am advocating for complexity and acknowledgement of plurality. It's straight up stupid to conflate all of this shit and people insist on doing it. I am not defending human rights abuses in particular countries (Saudi Arabia is the worse offender). You cited Christianity not Judaism. Nah, I didn't. The Old Testament is Judaism -- it is otherwise known as the Torah. Christianity = New Testament. Either way, what's the argument here? "These guys also do bad stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 01:17 AM
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That case is a direct result of the law in the UAE which in turn is heavily influenced by Islam I am not claiming otherwise. I am claiming that under Sharia law sexual assault is still illegal. the law is literally that adultery is illegal so even if you're reporting a rape they will put the charges on you. The only reason that particular story even made it to Western news outlets is because it involved a British tourist. They treat their own people the same or worse all the time and we just nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 01:07 AM
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maybe if the "mainstream" feminists pick up those actual issues more, they'll be more effective?? More effective at reporting on them or more effective at mobilising their audiences? Honestly, jurisprudence in the developing world is complex. I'm not sure the ''average feminist'' needs to be weighing in on this. A lot of countries have blasphemy laws anyway. And we have defamation laws. And in Germany you can't talk about the holocaust in certain ways -- people still generally have freedom of po…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:57 AM
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Islam is still doing barbaric shit today and feminists don't bat an eyelid. They do! They absolutely do! I don't know why people keep saying this. I am also not denying that Islam is still doing barbaric shit today, I just do not think this is as widely spread as people make it out to be. but which is still practised today? Yeah, absolutely it is. Halakhah still operates in certain elements of the Israeli legal system (like the divorce law is a bit fucked for women, for example). If you're, say,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:40 AM
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It is still illegal under Sharia Law, tho. That's just fucked up application of the law/interference created by a different law against adultery. It's like saying murder is no longer illegal in the US because OJ got off. (The most direct parallel is actually what happens in a lot of jurisdictions when escorts try to report sexual assault and their work is illegal so they get charged). Note: not arguing that Dubai is great with sexual assault, but I think it is almost equally absurd to argue that…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:28 AM
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His stats are never actually well-sourced -- it's a pattern. I'm a cynic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:21 AM
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Abstract and improv type art may be beautiful but if it's not impressively detailed and hard to achieve, i Why do you think this? Do you think Blue Poles was ''easy'' to achieve, for example? There is something to be said for concept as well, in art. Though I honestly could have painted a very similar painting with very little experience and less than an hours actual labour... Perhaps. But I see people say they can recreate Blue Poles all the time -- they can't. I drive longer than that to take …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:20 AM
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Well, I'm not about making Islam look good. I think it's fucked up in a lot of places. I just don't think it is en masse as bad as people make it out to be/is actually quite complex in all of its variations. That said, c'mon have you read the Old Testament? There's fucked up shit in every religious text.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:17 AM
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But those are not covered all that much in the feminist outlets. This is probably for the best. Mainstream feminists will fuck up coverage of these issues and do more harm than good & I'm frankly not seeing your avg Jezebel reader mobilising on these issues. She has criticized the country but often turns into apologist mode when it comes to the religion. Well, I don't see what's so bad about that. You yourself have said that the religion is not at issue -- it's the way that the law is being appl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:13 AM
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Happy to see well-sourced stats from other people -- just not that particular poster. He will argue into the ground abt something when he is obviously wrong. He also enjoys getting mad at me for holding positions that I don't (ie Marxist, feminist etc) & has already demonstrated himself to lack the ability to think complexly about this topic (read his posts carefully, they contradict each other).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:01 AM
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So on the abortion point I think this denial "En masse & to a greater extent than they are in the West? Yes, I would deny that." is inappropriate. No. I don't think you can make the claim that this is the case ''en masse and to a greater extent than in the West'' when I listed a large number of Muslim majority countries where abortion is available. Your argument ''well they're secular'' doesn't hold up. They are still Muslim majority countries. If your contention is ''women in the West are gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:56 PM
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I was raped by a stranger around twilight, once, while on my way to meet my boyfriend. Dude was a meth head. He broke my ribs and all kinds of other fucked up shit. I was in hospital for over a week following. Your idea of a cakewalk?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:49 PM
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even stark naked, the men aren't going to form a 50-man strong throng and gang-grope you. Ahahaha, I've been groped in public multiple times in Aus, starting from when I was a teenager. he other male onlookers will use violence to protect you 9 times out of 10. No one ever did anything. This is how anomie works -- bystander syndrome is intensified in big cities. In Egypt, that will happen 0 times out of 100. Have you ever been to Egypt? I have -- there was 0 sense that anyone was ever going to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:30 PM
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It's not, tho. They rely on different sections of the text + the Hadith as a supplementary source. Bahai people have a whole set of sacred texts of their own (not the Qu'ran) and they are still considered Muslim. Key text is The Most Holy Book. Also this is a facile argument. Protestants and Catholics are not the same just because it's ''the same Bible'' ffs. That's why they've been killing each other since forever, same with Sunni and Shiite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:29 PM
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they are all the same religion, They aren't, tho. There are types of Islam, just as there are types of Christianity. http://www.dummies.com/religion/islam/muslims-adhere-to-different-islamic-sects/ Comparing sufis and bahai to shiites is absolutely idiotic. Even within sects, comparing Modern Muslims with Orthodox Muslims is stupid (same as with Jews vs Orthodox Jews).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:23 PM
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When you go to Muslim countries and see how the men there behave towards modestly-dressed western women This is stupid. It's about standards of dress & what people are used to, not men being barbarians. If I wear a bikini out in public (outside of my beachside suburb, so if I go into the city in my bikini) dudes are going to harass me. It's less clothing than they are used to & so they react. In my suburb, no one cares, because that is normalised.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:21 PM
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You made unfair accusations of a man, and you're getting called out on it, you're not the victim here, you're the perp. Wtf. No one is a victim here. It's a fucking conversation on the internet. Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:18 PM
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Love, you replied to me so I assumed you wanted to engage with me. if you'd rather I didn't refute silly statements, you always have the option of refraining from them. I just find your streams of effusive codswallop and strawmanning irritating. You can refute me if you want, but I'm not engaging with you anymore. You're too nutty and ill-informed for me, sorry. It was funny at first, but then I got bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:13 PM
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The original intent was to point out feminists' lack of proportionality when it comes to abuses in the muslim world and in the west. I just do not agree with you on this. There is a ton of outrage about the situation for women in Saudi Arabia, for example, where the jurisprudence is genuinely shit. There is a ton of outrage about the situation in Nigeria etc The prosecutor's justification was based on trying to convict the serial rapist, rather than trying to punish the rape victim. Yeah, there …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:10 PM
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Most of those are secular states. How does this change the fact that they are Muslim majority countries? I thought we were talking about how ''Muslim culture'' = ''treating women poorly''? On average, muslim-majority countries have fewer abortion rights compared to the west. This could be said of non-Muslim majority countries outside of the West, too, tho. You're not seeing how the developing world coming to modernity later than the West has an impact here? Which countries? There's a difference …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:02 PM
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A very large proportion of Muslim men treat women like dogshit and this is an absolute empirical fact. I've got any amount of well-sourced stats to bury you with if you want to dispute this well-known fact. Please argue with other people. I'm bored of you & your ''well-sourced stats''.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:49 PM
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because the treatment is precedented and normalized in the justice system, whereas the US case was seen as outrageous. Why do you think this is the case? And why are you talking about the Islamic legal system as a whole? There was a lot of support for that prosecutor, tbh. Including from the parents of the woman involved. It was all kinds of fucked up. I think any sane person sees a blatant disproportionality in the UN's treatment of human rights issues. UNWomen had to end Wonder Woman as UN amb…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:44 PM
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Abortion is legal in Tunisia, Albania, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Kazakhstan, Tajikstan, Uzbekistan, Turkey etc. Donald Trump wants to make abortion illegal. There are states in the US have ''trigger laws'' that will make abortion illegal immediately should Roe v Wade be overturned. This is a scary possibility for American women at the moment. Women's testimony: Look at the list of countries where women's testimony is unequal to men compared to those where women's testimony is equal: While not formall…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:31 PM
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, harmless banter and were able to still elect him luckily Lolololol. If he'd been Muslim, tho. White men get all the passes when it comes to sexual assault. They're just harmlessly bantering and harmlessly groping and grabbing. It's aight. They're white. They can do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:15 PM
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at the feminist coverage of women's issues in the muslim-majority countries and less serious issues in the west. Do you think it's proportionate? It depends on the country. We cherry-pick the most egregious instances from non-Western countries and use them to paint an image of barbarism. A lot of Sharia jurists view the things you are talking abt as ''law enforcement misconduct'', too (and they are correct -- there is nothing in the law itself that supports these effed up practices re: rape. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:06 PM
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I only take on creative work if it's something I will enjoy. I don't do weddings for example. And mostly I'm just out making awesome pictures happen by myself. But for clients I have done video work, created logos, assisted with visual displays... It's hard to define in one category what I do. If you are doing work for clients it's ''commercial'' regardless of whether you enjoy it. But it is pretty. It's beautiful especially when the aesthetic of the painting matches the setting where it's being…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:57 PM
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Hahahaha, yes, what he actually meant was don't grab women by the pussy. Just gently pull them by the pussy -- way better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:50 PM
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He's in his 30s, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:43 PM
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Who could not be kind of in love with Arwen, tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:39 PM
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Yes, you made that clear a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:33 PM
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ou need two male witnesses to corroborate the woman's claim under sharia. You do not in many jurisdictions. That is for adultery not rape. ETA: the reason why it's a feminist issue is that the law is blatantly disregarded. When the President of the US is talking abt how it's cool to grab women by the pussy you can assume that there's a cultural problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:26 PM
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I have never, ever seen it here. Acquaintance? Yes. Established friend? No no no.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:25 PM
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Oh, feminists bat eyelids. Come, now. Also women are jailed for being raped in America too: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/23/us/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says.html?_r=0
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:24 PM
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Oh, no -- don't self-flagellate about it, please. It wasn't even that self-pitying! I only raised it because I found it funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:17 PM
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Have you never, ever seen anyone as ugly as you with a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:11 PM
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Last I checked it is still illegal to grab a random woman by the pussy under Sharia law. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:08 PM
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I don't know, mate! I don't know you, I can't say. What do you think's going on?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:06 PM
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you said it you hear it is a girl and thats fine, but that's still not common to hear it in public, No. I hear it in public. Just because I am a girl, does not mean all of my interactions occur in private spaces, lol. in public is still rare, you're agreeing with me. No. In groups of men. Not necessarily in public. Groups of men in private also have this problem. This has happened in public, gender neutral spaces multiple times. Including classes etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:05 PM
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Maybe it's not for you, personally, but there are lots of unattractive but socially skilled people who get laid. In addition to Louis CK, Daniel Kitson comes to mind as being quite the uggo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:59 PM
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Getting grabbed by the pussy? Yes, among other things. Why do you think this is funny? Is it okay when Muslim men grab Muslim women by the pussy or is this treating them like cattle?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:57 PM
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o many women, even here, proclaiming that attraction develops over time so you should get to know her and be friends first before making your move. :sigh: I have never seen anyone here advocating the ''be friends first'' strategy. Ever. It's a dumb strategy. Ask her out. There is also a difference between a new friend and an est. member of your social circle, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:51 PM
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I'm just saying that I'm generally one of the funnier people in any given room, and I'm also invariably unsuccessful with women, so I'm highly skeptical of the notion that being funny is enough to make one attractive. It's usually not one factor in isolation that makes someone successful. Nothing alone will make you successful. You have to be a double threat, preferably a triple, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:51 PM
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Are you denying that women are treated like second-class citizens in Islamist countries? And are you capable of understanding when someone is using hyperbole? En masse & to a greater extent than they are in the West? Yes, I would deny that. This is a statement that is made very often by people on the alt-right, so it does not come across as ''hyperbolic''. my whole point is that you should not make assumptions. You can make assumptions based on what people say. It is ridiculous to say, ''If some…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:44 PM
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why does there seem to be very little feminist effort or activity in Africa? There is a fuckton of feminist activity and advocacy in Africa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_feminism Chimamanda Ngozie Adichie is a fairly well-known name in the US, right? (Because she was quoted in a Beyonce vid). She is an African feminist/literary activist. Look up Osai Ojibo, Minna Salammi etc as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:34 PM
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Lmao. I think all of my picks are women that most men would love. But being a lesbian in a man's body doesn't sound too bad, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:12 PM
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Arundhati Roy is another one -- I had the same reaction. (Also someone recently linked to the thread where you talk about being a writer and achieving no success with the ladies and I loled. I think I have slept with one or two men just because their writing was that good so it totally is a thing, haha.).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:03 PM
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I hear this over and over from women, and have even been treated as such when I made a woman uncomfortable just by making an unreciprocated overture Eh. I have turned down heaps of people drama-free. It's no biggie if he approaches right. That especially happens inside social circles ('Can you believe that so-and-so hit on me? I thought we were friends!1!1!! Why would he do that? It's just so weird now, and I can't be around him anymore. What am I going to do?') Tbf, this is a real weird positio…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:58 PM
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OP has no clue what the other poster's experiences are or whether they have any Muslim friends. I think that can reasonably be assumed from the statement made, which is patently ridiculous: They're a culture that literally treats women like cattle Again, come on? You're going to assume that this person has several Muslim friends and is all up to date on the issues? I'm not & tbh it doesn't even matter if this poster does have Muslim friends -- they're still ignorant. It's not about not sharing '…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:54 PM
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It's partially why Jemima Kirke is my top pick, too (I enjoy her painting a fair bit and the way she speaks about art is just so intelligent).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:51 PM
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, a person who doesn't care about anyone else but themselves This + actively harmful is how I define asshole. Just not knowing how to interact, no. Not all people with aspergers are auto assholes, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:46 PM
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It's not what he was trying to convey, though. He was trying to convey that people who have not met many Muslim people & have instead swallowed media tropes abt Muslim people often have a shallow understanding of these issues. Given what was written in the initial comment, the condescension was totally warranted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:40 PM
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dread game. Dread game is low key emotional abuse, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:35 PM
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What? How do I lie in a cuddle? or I cuddle or I don't. Yes. Once I passionately made out with a guy I didn't like at all. It was totally ingenuous and didn't give him the wrong impression at all. After all, I didn't tell him that I liked him. Weird fucker for thinking I might've. I understood exactly what you meant, but reddit is a gender neutral space so what I'm saying still applies. What you were saying in response to me didn't make sense. It made it sound like you thought I was agreeing wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:32 PM
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Reproductive rights, sexual assault, wage gap, intersectionality etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:29 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Modernism Read. It is not all bad. People are trying to reconcile European values with Islam to create a new model for modernity. It looks like it will be somewhat successful. Azerbaijan, Turkey etc are fairly forward thinking nations. Afghanistan before we fucked it up during the Cold War.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:26 PM
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Oh, come on. The original poster legit wrote, ''They're a culture that literally treats women like cattle''. The condescension was well and truly earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:19 PM
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We have plenty of our own awful shit going on in the West. It's not the ''most important'' topic in Western feminism by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:18 PM
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like you're takign it personally because of the fact that I do not enjoy to cuddle as much in casual sex relationsh I'm not taking it personally, lol. I just disagree with you, that's all. I don't care that you don't like to cuddle during casual sex -- you do you, frankly. I've never told you not to. Casual sex clearly implied that. They're obviously not aware of your terms, though, or they wouldn't be feeling used -- you said they were, dude, not me. That you had to ''lie'' during the interacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:14 PM
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Infinite variation, imo. Things combine in different ways all the time, even if the basics are ''simple''. People are large. They tend to contain multitudes as per Whitman etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 06:56 PM
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Well of course photography is/can be an art form. No one is saying Robert Mapplethorpe is not an artist. However, if you are producing for largely commercial purposes (ie business clients) you are not an artist in the traditional sense (which calls to mind fine arts). It's a bit bizarre to describe yourself as ''one of the most famous artists in your city'' given what you are actually doing, tbh. By what metric are you ''famous'' as an ''artist''? considering what passes for modern art these day…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 06:46 PM
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I don't think the former denotes asshole at all. I think people are socially retarded all the time without thinking they're assholes. I just feel sorry for them, lol. I was obviously being hyperbolic with the pepper spray, haha, dw, I don't think everyone is trying to violently attack assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 06:37 PM
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'Rude' can be applied to, say, someone you don't think should be interested in you, for whatever reason, hitting on you (again, this is what I've heard over and over from women). I agree that this is a thing. The male version of it is ''desperate'' (when a chick he thinks is too ugly hits on him). I was going to have to risk looking like a rude 'asshole' if I was ever going to make a romantic/sexual connection happen. Whyyy?? I really don't get this. All the guys I know who are really successful…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 06:36 PM
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I'm nice enough to cuddle so she doesnt feel like shit, but that somehow makes me manipulative. You know she's going to feel like shit b/c you're using her for sex, so you pretend in the moment that you're not ''by giving her what she wants''. This is manipulative. If you know that girls don't want to feel ''used'' by you/have sex on the terms you do, don't lie to them -- just don't have sex with them. Find people who do want to have sex on the same terms as you. it feels more like you're disagr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 06:33 PM
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Imo, it really helps that not only is she super beautiful she is super brilliant. I have a lot of author crushes like this (Jhumpa Lahiri, Arundhati Roy, Marisha Pessl, Michael Chabon), but Zadie Smith just takes the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 06:23 PM
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I'm one of the most famous artists in my city... Mate, how do you square this with what you wrote below about your practice: Well right now it's photography... but I call it art because I put like 1000% more effort into it than anybody else I've met. And I enhance my photos with certain techniques and I can get really in depth with my creativity when trying to help a client achieve a certain look for their business or whatever it is. It sounds like you are more a ''creative'' photographer than a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 06:14 PM
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Okay, I'm probably abt to blow your mind, but I also do not identify as a feminist. So stop throwing your anti-feminist bullcrap at me. I love comedy, including problematic shit like Ricky Gervais, so bite me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:24 PM
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Yes, I understood what you were saying, don't worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:14 PM
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I think the hypothetical is more abt whether your bf or you should be the one with the money. I would prefer to sit pretty on 150k and avoid all the stress of 200k, myself, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:13 PM
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come from a tradcon family, but my mother hammered it into my head that I MUST support myself and whatever child I had. Yes, same. My mother is a SAHM for the most part/classic trophy wife, but she hammered it into my head over and over again that I needed to be financially independent, that freedom comes with financial independence & that you can't rely on men for anything/that my father was an outlier, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:10 PM
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Would rather make the 200k/year myself. Have never ever thought of relying on a boyfriend for money. Being financially independent is really important to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:08 PM
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I also don't think someone's political beliefs have all that much to do with their sexual preferences. Yeah this is important. I like some very kinky crap in the bedroom -- doesn't mean I am less about gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:58 PM
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I just think it's weird to look at supporting someone in a relationship, however it's done, as "dominant" behavior. In a healthy relationship it's something both partners will do at various junctures. Yes! This is so perfectly articulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:56 PM
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THIS. This whole fucking comment. This is not dominant behaviour. This is partnership. Have been ''provider'' at many points during various relationships. Not dominance, support.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:53 PM
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That is generally to do with those people being rude as well, though. Like. When a guy approaches you and is sexually aggressive, he usually also invades your space, or asks something stupidly inappropriate. He's not just like, ''Can we have sex? I am DTF, pretty lady'' (this kind of approach sans rudeness has happened to me like...twice? I didn't think they were assholes, just bizarre. The rude ones were assholes).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:51 PM
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No not at all. They look super chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:44 PM
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I tend to just think guys who do this are socially retarded, not assholes, tbh. I'm more like, ''What is wrong with you?! Where did you learn to communicate like this?!" than ''YOU ASSSHOLE! Coming at you with my pepper spray!!''
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:41 PM
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Yes, my god, she is widely considered a literary genius -- get on it, man! Her latest, Swing Time, is absolutely incredible. Her debut On Beauty is stunning. I am less a fan of White Teeth than many others, but it's still fantastic. I love her personal essay collection Changing My Mind, too. Brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:40 PM
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Very few women can get away with this, either. Guarantee you many men would feel weirded out if women just went up and went, ''Wan sum fuk?'' in public. It's bizarre conduct, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:37 PM
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Would you consider a guy to be an asshole if he just walked up to you and said 'Hey! I want to fuck you - whaddya say?'", That's because it's abrupt, not because of the directness via sex. I have never felt like a guy was an asshole because he directly asked if I wanted to have sex (after briefly getting to know me, because look, there needs to be a context for the request).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:36 PM
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Mate, it was a joke. I would absolutely make that joke to a woman, lol. When an opportunity for humour presents, I take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:31 PM
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And dat ability with language. Swooon. Total dreamboat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:20 PM
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No. I only want men to dominate me in the bedroom (and even then, sometimes I want to tie a dude up and go to town, so who really knows with me). Anyone who tries outside gets short shrift.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:16 PM
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<3 <3 <3 that you picked Zadie Smith. She is stunning, but the kind of stunning that guys around here would baulk at/be unable to see. Also brilliant. Would turn gay for Zadie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:12 PM
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How is this sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:09 PM
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I always imagine you to look like a dark-haired version of Brooke Logan from The Bold and the Beautiful. Idk how far off that is, but it's the image I've got of you, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:08 PM
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This was the nice version of my assessment. I didn't want to cast too many aspersions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:06 PM
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Honestly. Who would willingly self describe like this and not realise how bad it sounds? This place is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 03:59 PM
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It does not follow from the fact that people like casual sex with casual intimacy that people like causal intimacy by itself enough to pay for it. You need to work on your logic skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 03:54 PM
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Pretentious, judgemental, overly-confrontational and not very into sex by the sounds of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 03:08 PM
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per belly fat and lower belly fat, then lower belly fat and pubis fat It sounds like you are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 02:40 PM
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How clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 02:39 PM
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how your observations are facts and mine are wrong and my friends are just not upfront with me. They are not. But everyone's friends are not up front with them, that's just life. Because you think I'm shaming him for it, I'm not! Hamster. Calling a man ''low t'' ''reasonable to assume he's a woman'' and ''overly emotional'' is shaming, lmfao. You had sex as a job, of course you will feel more distant about sex or were you bonding with every client? So your view is a bit biased. Wtf does this hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 02:39 PM
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I have the 2 vertical abs line + a bit of the middle one, that's what abs definition is to you? Idk what that means. Generally ab definition means you have more than 2 split on a guy, though, so probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 02:23 PM
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Sex on MDMA for women, tho. For women it is amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 02:21 PM
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This is a bias from your standards or from your area. Or a misunderstanding of what ab definition is. I said 6 pack -- so I am not even talking abt just ''ab definition''. I know what ab definition is, lmao. I don't think this is a bias from my area -- many of the women & men here have spoken about how this is pretty normal in young dudes in the past. I'm one of the only small chubby dude of my circle. Okay. Well you agreed with me on this earlier, so idk what to think now. You are clearly not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:46 AM
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Straw man. Is it? He was called low T. People assumed that he was a woman. You said that assumption was not unreasonable. You then called him overly emotional. You then doubled down on that and said that this was not a ''normal'' male position and have continued to do so. This is not a strawman. And if you are calling it a strawman -- you are hamstering abt the meaning of your words. How is this a fact? It is not a fact. It is what I have observed with the vast majority of men I have encountered…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:42 AM
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you'll rarely accurately hit your daily needs or weekly needs No. I almost always do (this became apparent to me when I got My Fitness Pal). The only times I haven't have been medication induced weight loss or eating disordered times. I maintain exactly the same weight with ease, generally speaking. Most people who have always been thin are like this. ost engineers practice a sport or do work out, monitor what they eat, ect... we're 30, there are 3/4 people overweight, nobody is obese, even amon…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:30 AM
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And he's illiterate, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:24 AM
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How many people go on dates with people that they don't already kinda know? Like online dating, sure. But the vast majority of people I've gone on dates with were acquaintances that I'd seen around town/at various bars or events or whatever for a couple of months before we decided to exchange numbers and see what could happen. Isn't this how dating works? Like, who is just going on dates with some random who asked them out on the street?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:22 AM
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One, a woman. It was insecurity, not looks. She eliminated herself from consideration before other people could do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:14 AM
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I love that all the women of PPD are small and busty, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:13 AM
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No, the bottom 95% of women. Seriously, how many women naturally have boobs that big on a frame that tiny? Lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:12 AM
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She looks better when she wears less make-up, imo & you can see that she is gorgeoussss. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CG4XoKiUgAAyL_C.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:10 AM
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Omg :'( She is/was truly too beautiful, though. So striking -- there's something ''moving'' about that image of her. I feel like she'd be amazing in person/on video.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:04 AM
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Which is not possible if you're over eating, you'll just gain both. :p Yes. But you also don't have to calorie-restrict to maintain weight. 1kg is 1kg no matter what. Yes. 1kg is 1kg no matter what. But for a man to lose the same proportional amount of weight, he will have to expend more calories. A 1kg weight loss on me will look more dramatic than it will on you. you can't tone if you're not properly monitoring your kcal input, you TONE when you eat for a stationary weight. WHICH IS WHAT SKINN…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:03 AM
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those are the main reason I know of and see around me. Most of them, just don't want to play any games and want to get it over with. This is what they say. I am pointing out that there is a difference between what men tell other men re: what they're doing and how their interactions play out. Literally no dude you know is going to tell you, ''I see escorts because I feel like I can't be emotionally open with anyone else in my life.'' The logistics argument is bullshit, imo. It is hard to organise…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:48 AM
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Srsly. ''These women don't want to fuck roid-y gay-looking dudes! They must be fatsos!!!'' Oh, RP spergs. They never let me down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:45 AM
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. Fat lose is always 90% diet. Skinny fat people are not losing weight, though. They are toning themselves. Go to a restaurant, you'll be served as much as a normal man, no wonder a 160cm girl is going to put on weight with it. I am not talking about this. I am talking about metabolic differences, sigh. Give a 160cm man and 160cm girl the same meal -- the man will burn it off faster b/c he has a higher basal metabolic rate. Well I could argue that since I'm bigger I also spend more while walking…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:09 AM
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Overly emotional = too emotional. When you say someone is overly something, that usually carries negative connotations. ''Overly vain'' ''Overly unemotional'' ''Overly cold'' "Overly friendly'' etc. So I don't really think they go there looking for afection. So you think they just pay for sex, even though they have no trouble getting girls/getting laid, for no reason? If you can get sex without paying & yet you are paying for it, you are usually paying for something other than the sex. Many of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:03 AM
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Skinny fat is not harmful for women's SMV. Workout won't make that fat go away No. You are wroooonggggg. Skinny fat is absolutely harmful for women's SMV & working out is the best way to get rid of it. I have friends who weigh 45kg (same as me) who look sorta chubby. Women do put on weight faster because they eat more. Nah fam, this is to do with muscle mass and the way that people burn calories. I walk 1h a day just to go for work, climb lot of stairs and shit. walking is 200 kcal/h. Not if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:56 AM
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The women you're talking to are either post wall (with post wall taste) or overweight feminists that have learned helplessness around hot guys who they know will only pump and dump them and rationalize why the skinny beta no one wants but them and therefore won't cheat is hot. Am 24. BMI is 17 at the moment (I am trying to regain weight). But yes, continue with this bizarre rationalisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:45 AM
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there isn't a point where doubling down on these traits (okay, apart from height) isn't going to positively affect your dating prospects. No, not really. It would not improve my skinny hipster dude friends' dating prospects for them to get muscly. It would be detrimental, actually, imo (even for the ones who aren't slaying). And they would not be in that ''too muscly'' range -- their aesthetic would just be destroyed & they would stop attracting women due to charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:39 AM
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Lmao. I think I judged his body by his face & he has a chubby face, but hot bod. It's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:36 AM
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Women don't require that much muscles, therefore if you're already thin that is already good Nah. Skinny fat is a thing for women. And women have to work out to get slim -- women put on weight faster than men naturally/are softer naturally. my girlfriends, girl friends, and other women from entourage, are sedentary, practice no sport, are slim and curvy. It's just luck. It is likely not. Look at what they eat. Abs are made in the kitchen. Women eat 1000% better than men, ime. Also it depends on …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:35 AM
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however I think it's overly emotional to have to bond first in order to have sex. Why? Again, ime, the vast majority of people are like this even when it comes to casual sex. You form an emotional bond that is casual & then you fuck. Casual sex and casual intimacy. The user above is obviously talking about something more intense in terms of bond, but still. Why is this too emotional? What is bad about it? (100% bet my sample size of men I've fucked is bigger than any sample size of men you've ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:30 AM
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I think his body is slightly below average -- he's pretty chubby. I think only like 5-10% of guys were that chubby when I was in college. Maybe less. I think his face is well & truly below average. ETA: I take it back -- looked him up shirtless, yep. Average to slightly above average, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:26 AM
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Well, no because again that is not true. Parkour wasn't that guy's passion -- music was. He was an acclaimed pianist. Pretty sedentary shit. My husband is a rock climber. He has a great body. He's in fucking finance (before he left to do his PhD) and his day job = 0 to do with exercise. He also used to ride bikes everywhere when we were at Uni. There are lots of people who really like exercise/for whom it is not some massive constraint and is just a natural part of their lifestyle. I also know w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:16 AM
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I don't think that's comparable. Most of the skinny men I know are successful with women. Most of the men with questionable facial aesthetics I know are not. Would contend that money & height are nowhere near as important as RP makes them out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:12 AM
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don't mind dummies don't mind minor crims don't mind guys who don't get paid much don't mind guys who aren't super hot love someone who's had their heart ripped out/is a bit broken. These dudes were my catnip when I was young. hot druggies = yesss. don't mind lack of ''stable-mindedness'' (like for example hubby wants to move to Europe in 6 months, so we're moving to Europe, lol. So temperamental.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:10 AM
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She is an 18yo Insta model. And she is really hot when she dresses ''modern''.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:05 AM
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Lol what is minor criminal past? (drug offences? theft? assault?) Got a feeling I don't give a fuck about that one either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:01 AM
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If this were the whole explanation there would be a similarly prevalent idea that men love crazy bitches. Guys hate being dumped, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:58 AM
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Women are so privileged, right? Men have a much higher burden of performance, don't they? Sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:56 AM
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Yep. My shy lady friends would feel mega uncomfortable around my husband who is like sunshine-all-the-time levels of extroverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:55 AM
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I do not perceive being ''loudmouthed'' (aka talkative) as bad behaviour. Why do you think it is ''bad'' to be extroverted?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:53 AM
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Yeah, no. I know many men who have that body type who do not follow religious work out and diet regimens.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:49 AM
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lso that being muscular in general isn't that much of an advantage but entirely optional (no fuck it's not). I mean. I know a lot of guys who are very much skinny, unmuscular dudes who slay with women. The biggest manwhores I know are all skinny. how hot being cut and/or ripped is But I really don't care that much. Why would I say this when I don't mind too much?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:47 AM
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most of the muscular men have constraints on their diet, sleep, and have work out routines. Nope. My ex-fiancee was a parkour instructor. He had an insane body (abs for days, dat 8 pack) and he was not a gym bro & did not look like one. He detested gym bros. He ate like a normal human. He also had a job and was studying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:43 AM
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If your thinking, 'I'm going to do foreplay now' your already fighting an uphill battle. YES. This. It has to actually be organic. You cannot learn the ''rules'' of this and pull it off well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:38 AM
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Lol mate what I get dopey as fuck if I do a couple shots of tequila and maybe a bit sick. Gin & whiskey are the best for unwinding. Also cocaine, MDMA, shrooms etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:37 AM
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I think it is sometimes also an extreme self-consciousness about the body. Feeling like you have to stay ''still'' so he doesn't notice your flaws or getting so caught up in your head that you stop engaging. Turn the lights off. Tell her what you want. Don't make it feel like ''porn star'' shit -- it's sex, it's not meant to be like porn. Let it flow. Kiss, actually interact, don't treat her like an object. If you just want to ''fuck her'' then of course she's just going to lay there and let her…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:34 AM
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When I say ''lean'' I mean Andrew Van Wyngarden when MGMT was just starting to get popular. When I say muscular, I mean Sergei Polunin -- so still lean but shredded. I do not mean any of those dudes you posted above, most of whom look gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:28 AM
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Like this one Sergeiiiiii. He is my dream man. He looks super gay in that pic, but he does not the vast majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:22 AM
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Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:19 AM
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could everyone from TRP stop making me look at gay porn Legit, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:15 AM
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Do people ever get pissed off about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:10 AM
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if I found myself starting to think about a "backup person" that's not how this post defined backup person, tho. A backup person is simply any person that you know would be easy to get into a relationship with if your current relationship doesn't work out. This is so many men I know, haha. Doesn't mean I would get into a relationship with them -- just that it would be easy if I wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:09 AM
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Uh...as described, yes, I have loads of back up people. I do not think of any of them as ''back up people'' tho. It would be ''easy'' for me to get into a relationship with many acquaintance-level men in my social circle. It's fairly apparent that there are a few that are quite sexually attracted to me & think I'm adorable. Also former clients would be suuuuper easy. Not sure I would date any of them or that I would consider them a ''good choice'' should hubby and I get divorced. But it would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:07 AM
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it's an incredibly cheap outfit, and men will think it's flirty and feminine. Wtf, nah. A sizeable portion will think it's cheap. Men are weirdly fussy about women's clothes. This girl is in the fuck zone not the date zone and it's because her type of beauty is viewed as lesser.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:02 AM
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My point is that most of chicks listed are 6+. Yes. Except for 3 & 4, every single one of the women on this list has monetized her appearance. That in and of itself suggests above average. 1 = Insta Model 2 = Weather Girl & Model 5 = model 6 = plus-sized model 7 = playboy model 8 = plus-sized model. t if you're into black women, 9/10. Omg she's gorgeous 10/10. Who is she?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:59 AM
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Sheeran is so goofy looking. Would still bang because he's got the voice of an angel, but like, no way is he average physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:28 AM
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Jesus Christ, why do you think you should be able to dictate her reality in terms of her appearance to her? Mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:27 AM
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the guy in u/rufflesthefeathers post looks husky to me -- he's not a super-slim dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:26 AM
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they look 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:05 AM
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Agree with this wholeheartedly. Those ''avg dudes'' are super incel-y. Just white, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:02 AM
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I like that average guy, too. He's a cutie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:01 AM
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Yeah colourful sweater hipster is a winner. Such ease and influence in his posture = hawt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 06:59 AM
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Is your stand-up comedy funny tho? Bc women are like dying to fuck Louis CK and that guy is not a looker.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 06:58 AM
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I love all of his Chads. Would fuck them all any time. That's my type (for casual sex, definitely, anyway) over the wholesome All-American look.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 06:55 AM
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Lololol I was about to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 06:52 AM
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He's got really snub features. Way worse facial aesthetics than the avg dude, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 06:52 AM
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Lol really? Idk maybe my gender radar is just better than most -- have always thought you were a woman, have always thought he was a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:54 AM
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I usually just say something ridic like 2 or 7000, depending on my mood. But this is a great strategy -- I'm stealing it, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:53 AM
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Yeah, mate. I was an escort. I've been behind the scenes on this one. Men are all about saying, ''omg I don't need emotions, I just want to fuck!'' They're fulla shit in the vast majority of instances. ONS = not that fun for most men, tbh. But. Seriously. Answer the question I asked -- why do you think it is ''overly emotional'' to not want to fuck strangers? Wtf is your logic on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:49 AM
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Me too, tbh, haha. I wear Playboy bras in 30E and 30F most often. I'm probably fucking up my back, but it works somehow, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:48 AM
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I think it is specifically about the men here thinking that all men must want ONS. Ime, this is not true -- ONS are not a pinnacle sexual experience for the vast majority of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:46 AM
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1) not an escort anymore 2) that line of work is exactly why I understand this -- even when men are paying for it, the vast majority of them want casual intimacy, not anonymous sex. Casual intimacy requires an emotional bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:41 AM
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Yeah same & that's the case for most people I know who volunteer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 09:54 AM
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Why do you think it's ''overly emotional'' to not want to fuck strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 09:51 AM
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Um. Yeah. It is. If you like sex loads but prefer it in an emotional context, that does not mean you are ''low t'' or have a problem. Most men don't like ONS that much, tbh. Also I knew it was meant to be an insult -- I wanted to her the idiot justify himself for the lulz.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 07:00 AM
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Obv that was the problem. Not the angry bird thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 06:57 AM
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Eh. It is my personal opinion that at least 30% of dudes are suuuper into fat chicks for sex things, so even though it's not my thing, I rated them quite highly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 06:53 AM
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She is gorgeous -- I have a crush on her, for sure. But like. In that photo she looks like one of those girls who has drawn on their features/doesn't actually have a good face.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 06:47 AM
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Nah fam, I think Lindsey Pelas is gorgeous and would rate her 9.5/10 (I have a girl crush on her) -- but she doesn't look like herself in that photo. She looks like someone who's drawn on her bone structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 06:46 AM
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I'd bet she's at least a 28G. More than 28G, for sure -- I am a 28G properly sized, my boobs don't look that huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 06:42 AM
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Wtfffff why have you leapt from slut to meth addict.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 06:08 AM
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He does lots of drugs and is probably not husband material. Is he an addict? I have never met a guy who used lots of drugs whom women did not flock to, tbh, so this assessment surprises me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 06:01 AM
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Yeah totes. Triggered and everything. CGs, edgelord.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 05:57 AM
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It's how I racked up my numbers (much lower) so fast, which is why I always think of it! I went from 1 to 30ish in less than a year (like 6 months or something). Wasn't constantly fucking new dudes (was fucking the same dudes on the reg, for the most part) -- but I had a fair bit of group sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 12:12 AM
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My first time was pretty great sex (for a first time) and I knew it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 12:08 AM
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He coulda been involved in a lot of orgies when he was younger, too? One night and n-count = +10 sort of things?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 12:04 AM
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Also like how would you keep track at that point?! I lost track after 30, haha. Might be inadvertent overestimation, too, not estimation designed to impress.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 12:03 AM
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Nah man, this is the vast majority of men. Bloodhounds for ONS are rare outside of RP land.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 11:50 PM
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Cbf reading a long ass book abt this. & I don't think that book would answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 11:50 PM
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by saying "no offense" he's saying "I'm on your team, and I want to help make you better" Bullshit. He's saying, ''No offence but the way you express your sexuality isn't good enough. Fag!'' you must be a woman, because all guys instinctively know that insulting another man's manhood is an insult. I knew this. I wanted to hear him justify his fuckwittery.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 11:44 PM
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People who claim to be virtuous have no other option but kindness. Nope. I choose kindness. I have been ruthlessly destructive in the past -- it is something that I am well and truly capable of. It's just not something I choose to do anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 05:34 PM
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Yeah. Dead bitches are almost as bad as tinder sloots.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 05:32 PM
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Wow, haha. Your sweeping, shaky generalisations and the great authority with which you proffer them will never cease to fascinate me. You're a weird one, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 05:04 PM
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Sometimes. Sometimes the break-ups are messy and you end up with songs/poetry collections lambasting you out there in the world, haha. I think the 'simple' stuff is easier for this crowd to digest + the specific poetry & music that has been written for me is deeply personal, so I'm not sharing, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 05:02 PM
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Reminded me of the time a partner said that I was adorable like an angry bird and I got super pissed off, tbh, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:56 PM
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''You are a sleepy golden storm'' = one that I really enjoyed. It's a reference to a Leonard Cohen song. Hips luring like a lyre. Lips remind me of crushed petals. Sphinx-like smile. etc etc. I've dated a lot of poets and musicians so that's some of the more ''simple'' metaphorical stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:49 PM
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Sometimes. That doesn't mean I was inauthentic. If you are ''going through the motions'' to get to the good part, you are not being authentic. You are viewing her as having one purpose/function -- sex. She will view you as having one purpose/function in turn -- money. Seems obvious to me. If you want to have a relationship that is based on reducing your partner to a function, then you will only attract people who also want to do the same thing. That's why men go on dates. Not really, no. The way…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:39 PM
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Why did you feel the need to ''unoffensively'' tell him that he's low t?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:36 PM
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I have sex on the first date if it's a good first date -- I am famous for having excessively long first dates (usually at least 10 hrs. I think my longest was like...2 weeks long? I just moved in, basically). If it's not a ''good'' first date but it's decent, I'll give it a second and if I'm not dtf by then I'll bail. I've encountered a no. of guys who want to wait longer/until I'm up for commitment, so I have been the one ''waiting'' reasonably often.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:33 PM
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Lmao. Love how the assumption was that you are a woman because you don't just want to fuck anyone and everyone indiscriminately sans ''connection''.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:29 PM
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Yeah. Not killing people is usually a solid strategy for ongoing fun sexytimes. Idk why but killing people always seems to result in them never replying to your text messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:26 PM
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Men don't see it the same way you do. First off, the man is there because he wants to fuck you. He just wants to get through the formalities and the back and forth so he can get to the good part. Second, he doesn't give a shit who pays for what, just so he can get to the good part. Third, he could pay for it himself, but if you're offering, he'll take you up on it. Doesn't matter to him. You are a man, no? This is how you are when you go on dates, no? All of your ''attention'' and kindness = fal…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:24 PM
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"probably a bad faith post where anything people respond with will be told that is not real niceness" This does not make my post a bad faith post -- I am asking why people thought they were nice. I am not looking to affirm people. he spent his time bullying, stealing, being violent, selfish, making other people do all the work in group projects, stabbing people in the back and groping as many girls as he could get his hands on. This doesn't sound like a real person. Are you talking about Chad as…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:23 PM
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I'm not sure it has occurred to you or u/LewisCross, but it seems highly likely that women view him as a Walking Wallet, because he views them as walking Fleshlights. He doesn't care about them as people, in his own words -- he's just faking so he can laid. Disingenuousness begets disingenuous. If you approach an interaction in a dehumanising, transactional way, expect the other party to engage in the same dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:19 PM
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Good. I'm glad you haven't taken the edgelord roleplay too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:05 PM
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Username checks out. Thx for sharing your insights.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:03 PM
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the man is there because he wants to fuck you. He just wants to get through the formalities and the back and forth so he can get to the good part. This is not my experience. I have been on many dates with men who did not want to fuck me urgently & who really enjoyed the actual ''date'' part. Including men who were paying for my time. It sure seems to matter a whole hella lot to most women. I disagree. I tend to take it as a positive sign when a guy offers to pay for a first date (shows investmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:03 PM
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