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Looks like OP is considering giving it to him though.
/r/RedPillWomen19/06/26 07:56 PM
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"Petty" because you are punishing him for not wanting children? I don't know if that'd work because even if he say yes to you now, there is no guarantee that he'd go through with it after marriage. I think you should leave him because sounds like you might regret not having children.
/r/RedPillWomen01/05/26 10:17 PM
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>he told me he’s only been with 2 girls and only wants intimacy if it’s with a view of a long term relationship. Hmmm he talked about sexual stuff before he even met you in person. He asked you if you "wanted more" on your first date. So he just knew you were "long term" material sight unseen? If so, then he clearly has really bad judgment because here you are thinking about cutting him.
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/26 07:24 PM
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If you want to be a SAHM, then it's fair and right that he puts his career first. And if that means Texas, that's the trade you are asking for. However, if moving to TX is so distraught to you, then you absolutely have the right to demand commitment before you move with him. If it were me, I would demand marriage before moving to TX. There is no excuse, you've been together a decade. If you decide to marry him, know that you are marrying someone who does not have a "provider" mentality.
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/26 05:03 PM
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You are 100% playing games. No matter how busy, one can always acknowledge a call either right then and there or as soon as possible. I would never accept that excuse from my husband.
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/26 09:50 PM
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So he is very clear -- he does not want anything serious or long term with you, OP.
/r/RedPillWomen29/01/26 06:03 PM
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I am not sure I understand what you are asking so disregard what I am about to say if I've misunderstood your post. The RP men you are referring to believe that they can raise their status if they are constantly seen with different women. These men aren't "high value men" and they know not to be too picky about the women they are seen with. Any woman who is average looking or above has that resource to give to these men, if they choose to. So you too can be one of those women. Just understand th…
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/26 06:20 AM
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>one time right when I ended things with him he showed me an acceptance letter to CIA that he got years ago, when I asked him why are you showing me this he said well you said you're moving on so I had to give you something to keep you stuck on me. He is a coward. He cuts things off so that he can be remembered as a perfect bf instead of continuing the relationship and risking showing his true self. He lacks honesty and he hates himself. He is portraying an image for your consumption because he …
/r/RedPillWomen22/12/25 06:33 PM
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They've only been dating for one month. OP should have put that in her first post.
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/25 02:47 AM
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My daughter (25) grew up dreaming of becoming a doctor. She changed her mind her senior year in college, after completing all premed required courses plus hundreds of hours of volunteering, TA, research and published papers. The reason ? She wanted a family more. More than the number of years required, it was the fact that she’d have very little control over her location that deterred her. So instead she got a job working for a big healthcare company. It’s been 3.5 years and no regrets. She make…
/r/RedPillWomen04/12/25 03:13 AM
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IMO it's the other way around. Women are the ones choosing older men. If a woman wants children, then her 20s are her most valuable years. Most men in the same age range are not yet financially established. This is why young women date older men: because they want to start a family with someone who can provide. And that, in most cases, would be an older man. That said, men in their 20s do settle if they fall in love, especially if they have a good job.
/r/RedPillWomen18/11/25 08:24 PM
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Your challenge is that there aren't many men who can provide comfortably for a family on his own income. My daughter got herself one, both 25. Her bf has a very strong provider mindset and makes multiple times what she makes (she makes low $100K.) She found him at one of his frat's parties at their tier-1 university when they were both seniors. So you have to be where these men are. For you, if you want someone who is close to your age and who has that kind of income potential, your chances incr…
/r/RedPillWomen11/11/25 10:58 PM
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This is the right place for you, OP. I am a feminist who raised two feminist daughters who also sometimes feel judged for their desire for traditional marriages. Competition is intense for the type of men you want, especially if you add college degree, income above $100k and 6'+. So you need to be realistic. But they do exist. My daughter's bf, both 25, is all that plus strong traditional values having grown up on a farm. But here's the thing, you need a career. Not only because divorce is a thi…
/r/RedPillWomen03/11/25 04:48 PM
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He's toying with you.
/r/RedPillWomen21/10/25 01:36 AM
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He wants to appear single online. So yes, almost 2 yrs in and he is not sure you are "the one" and wants to keep his options open.
/r/RedPillWomen17/10/25 02:27 PM
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My read is that it is a dealbreaker. He is just not ready to cut OP loose because they are still in their honeymoon phase. Wait until 2 years when he is no longer so enthralled with OP, then he'll end it. Or OP can cut him loose today. After all it's only been 2 months.
/r/RedPillWomen15/10/25 07:46 PM
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My daughter and her bf (both 25) met at their Ivy League. They first met in club swimming and later when she became a "sweetheart" of his frat. They are both traditional and believe it is the man's job to provide. She works in business strategy for a big healthcare company and makes low $100K. She is very ambitious. But, in the long term, she wants the option to be a SAHM and she dates with this in mind. While she is not "submissive and deferential", she certainly respects her bf a lot. Her bf m…
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/25 01:36 AM
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> the ones who seem socially effortless and non-judgemental The men who are players and don't care about your past are not interested in you for the long haul. So if you want commitment, you need to choose differently. >How much is my self-esteem/anxious attachment playing a part Probably significantly. If you are clingy, controlling and full of drama, many men will not think of you as "wife material" especially if they have options. I don't think it's your attractiveness since you are getting i…
/r/RedPillWomen02/09/25 02:44 PM
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>I think politics reflect values Or a hierarchy of values. For ex, for myself, I am extremely liberal on social issues but will always vote national security first. My daughter's bf grew up on rural farmland and is what you'd think of as a traditional values gun rights conservative man but he votes climate change foremost. "Politics" is too broad, I think you can drill down and find out what his values are that are driving his politics. You may find your own mind expanded.
/r/RedPillWomen06/08/25 03:59 PM
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I don't think you are going to get that reassurance since you weren't even in a relationship. If you think he is really worth it, move at your own risk and see what happens. In the meantime, try to control your "anxiously attached" and keep your expectations low. To answer your question -- my daughter and her bf (both 25) had a 2-yr LD. She moved to his city a year ago when she was approved for WFH along with a promotion. She makes low $100k and he makes multiple times that. They met at uni (clu…
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/25 07:19 PM
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Your idea is solid, if you can find a job to support yourself. IMO, at your age, it's more important to invest in your future (eg. partner) than it is to save money. My husband and I are subsidizing our daughter's (new grad) expenses in Boston. She doesn't really need it but Boston is expensive and we want her to have fun.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/25 01:14 PM
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You asked for take away, so here is mine, if I were you: I ignored red flags during my relationship. People simply don't change that dramatically. You clearly misjudged his character and his level of commitment towards you. Just because he proposed (or even married you) does not mean that he felt truly committed to you. He likely went along with what you wanted (eg. engagement) because he was not ready to cut you off until 2 months ago. If I were you, I'd look back and identify the red flags and…
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/25 04:15 PM
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Why would you invite the government in with a "prenup" then? Besides, what you are talking about isn't a "prenup" if you aren't legally married. It's just a "contract". If you both sign it, it becomes a legal document which, obviously, means that the government is automatically involved. Don't sign anything if you want to keep the government out. And definitely don't have children! As soon as you have a child, the government is intrusively involved! The only way around this is, as someone else s…
/r/RedPillWomen17/04/25 02:43 PM
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No I like men who don't think about fashion.
/r/RedPillWomen16/04/25 09:04 PM
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>"so when's my wifey coming over to cuddle?" OP, your vetting skills need improvement. Why would you even get to the point of exchanging messages with this loser? And, on top of that, you actually responded to this message instead of immediate block! Unlike some posters here, I do think OLD is a reasonable place to meet men. Everyone is on dating sites, losers as well as men who are truly looking for a partner. But you need better vetting skills in order to not waste too much time. Look for onli…
/r/RedPillWomen14/04/25 02:26 PM
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"Never been brought up" -- because you never brought it up? Why not?
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/25 02:09 PM
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Almost 70% fall within the 1st standard deviation of the bell curve. If you include the effect of make up, hair, skin care, flattering clothes, I don't think it's a stretch to say 80% meet the standard you gave: "treshold of beauty that is tolerable to the majority."
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/25 12:05 AM
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>& that kidness and traditional mindset and femininity help only when you pass the treshold of beauty that is tolerable to the majority. So 80% of women pass that threshold. That's why what we discuss here is so important.
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/25 05:50 PM
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He doesn't love you nor even want you around. Block him everywhere and move on with your life.
/r/RedPillWomen28/03/25 02:33 PM
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Plenty of studies have shown the answer is "yes". But obviously not everyone is the same.
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/25 02:56 AM
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It's because a lot of new members aren't actually red pilled.
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/25 02:40 PM
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It's not weird to me. My daughter's bf is what these influencers would love to land -- 25yo, Ivy League grad, prestige job and income, 6'2, great body and can fix anything from plumbing to computer software issues. He is also very private and discreet. He checks his insta when she tells him she's tagged him and wants him to like her post. Her insta is private. Having his relationship blasted on social media for the world to see would be his ultimate nightmare. No matter how complimentary the pos…
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/25 02:32 PM
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No.
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/25 04:21 AM
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So he's only met his bestie once, served as her best man at her wedding, and claims to have had 5 online relationships. Your friend has been talking to this man online "for months" and has never met irl. What is with all these young people wasting their real lives on online fantasies? Anyway getting back to your question: I think there's a high probability that this man won't be able to handle a real life relationship with a rl woman who looks like a real human woman and does rl human being thin…
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/25 05:27 PM
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Yes I assumed that was what you meant. I was asking for specific examples.
/r/RedPillWomen04/03/25 05:06 AM
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>while being able to fully trust that he’ll always take care of you and your family and be a good partner? What makes you think this?
/r/RedPillWomen04/03/25 03:25 AM
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OP isn't being offered a position of "wife".
/r/RedPillWomen04/03/25 03:24 AM
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Yea I wouldn't hitch my wagon to a man who can't control his need to play the hero in frivolous situations, especially if my wagon contains children. The other issue - that he does this for attractive women - means that he is always open to be seduced. So that's a no for me too.
/r/RedPillWomen03/03/25 03:15 PM
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Most jobs are in line with RPW. Regardless of how much you make, you can choose to quit at anytime to be a SAHW. My daughter makes low $100K right now but she and her boyfriend (both 24) agree that she'll be a SAHM. She is in business strategy for a F50. She plans to transition to being an artist after they marry in about 2 years time. But luckily she won't be doing it for money but for passion. I would say bartending isn't a particularly RPW friendly job. The work hours are not conducive to fam…
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/25 05:26 PM
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I am ok with my kids making their own mistakes in a controlled environment under my watch. Don't worry though, they've had great dating trajectory since high school.
/r/RedPillWomen23/02/25 05:48 PM
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I tell my daughters that once they graduated from high school, they should only date men they can see a future with. I was ok with them dating the boy who got kicked out of his boarding school for drug dealing or the boy who had a known penchant for dating multiple girls at the same time. But once they hit college, I expect them to date men who share similar values and are serious about them. Relationships can take several years to lead to marriage, if at all, so idk what the point would be to n…
/r/RedPillWomen23/02/25 04:28 PM
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Yes, definitely go for the less competitive specialty for a better chance at a more urban area. They say a woman can have it all but that's not really the case irl. My daughter (24) gave up on med school in her senior yr in college precisely because of the uncertainty surrounding locations. Best of luck to you, OP.
/r/RedPillWomen15/02/25 05:17 PM
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I think you are in a difficult situation. Your location is the problem. Your standards are not unreasonable and I don't think you should wait until your late 20s to start dating, especially if you want children. Are you within 2hrs of a city or college town? Do you visit your family and are they located in a city? What are the chances of your residency being in an urban area?
/r/RedPillWomen15/02/25 06:14 AM
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He doesn't want to give you money. I don't blame him, I wouldn't either.
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/25 06:06 PM
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Our finances are combined since back when we were bf/gf. Both of our names are on all assets and we are each other's primary beneficiary. I don't understand keeping finances separate after marriage because don't most state laws consider them marital assets if there is a divorce anyway? OP, for guns and botox type things, I would put an annual limit or an amount/item over which you need the consent of the other partner.
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/25 03:48 PM
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As the mother of two young women (21 and 24), the biggest mistake I see young women make is staying in a relationship with men who aren't really into them. The quality you listed "willingness to take action rather than just talk" is a sign of a man who is not into you. A man who is excited about you will take action before you even think of it. If you ever notice that you have to push hard for him to do simple things for you (ie. hang a painting for you, pick you up from wherever, take out the t…
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/25 03:39 PM
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It's crazy that he expects a guest to scrub his toilet, in addition to cooking for him and cleaning his kitchen. It's a miracle he's not charging you for utilities. At 40, he is the way he is. He will always be a miserly person who sees you as a drain on his resources without considering all that he gets in return and all that you put in (ie. driving time and gas, for starters). If you get married, he will make you go 50-50 regardless of your income and age differences. He may be forced into tak…
/r/RedPillWomen11/01/25 06:38 PM
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It's very uncouth and clueless, like the up poster said. It actually does tell me something about him, but it's not a compliment. I can easily gauge/google/chat his salary range and career upside if he has a linkedin. I can gauge his family wealth if I know his hometown. And if I am looking for trust fund babies, I can look at which private or boarding high school he went to and which sports he plays/played in high school or college.
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/25 07:30 PM
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How did he "took advantage of her"? To me it sounds like he was indeed "dating for marriage". But, as he got to know OP better and as OP showed him her red flags, he decided he is no longer interested. Sex doesn't mean he is obligated to find OP to be his "the one". This is his right, as it is hers.
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/24 05:31 PM
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Not who you asked but, in this case, "accountability" means it's up to OP to enforce her own words "dating for marriage".
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/24 05:19 PM
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Personally I would limit the number of trips I take to see him. He is just a boyfriend, a new boyfriend at that. Why are you straining yourself so much for him? He summons, you come. When he's done with you, he just kicks you out. So convenient for him. Not only is he not the one driving, he also doesn't pay gas. And on top of it all, he's now complaining that you are not a good enough maid!
/r/RedPillWomen13/12/24 01:28 AM
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So I don't get it, you'd throw out a 6 yr relationship for a wedding?
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/24 08:21 PM
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That's it? He'd marry you today if you forgo a wedding?
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/24 08:16 PM
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Your friend's fiancé does not like her.
/r/RedPillWomen09/11/24 02:57 AM
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Lol so belligerent! OP said she likes these people.
/r/RedPillWomen02/10/24 07:46 PM
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I've never requested to look at my husband's phone. But if he is skittish about letting me handle his phone when he is showing me something on his phone, then yes, I would take that as a red flag.
/r/RedPillWomen26/09/24 03:03 PM
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Yes and especially if your university has more women than men. As another poster pointed out that it's code for "you would be a lot of work", and why would they want that when there are so many options at the university? I would recommend you date men who are 2-4 years out of college. Real life is different than university -- there are more men than women looking for partners.
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/24 05:57 PM
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Stay at your Big Law for 2 years and switch to In-house counsel. My daughter (24) works a business strategy role at a F100, makes low $100K, fully remote. Like you, she was an overachiever and went to an Ivy League. She planned to go to med school, which is another decade of commitment post undergrad here in the US, but changed her mind when she realized she wanted children more. In this day and age, I think it's too risky to rely on one person's career. I know your partner wants to provide, but…
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/24 03:48 PM
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The concept of "alpha male" has evolved with time and is different depending on a woman's own socio economic status. For ex, we are upper middle class, my daughters went/go to tier-1 universities and neither has shown any interest in seriously dating someone in the military because of future income potential. Older daughter (24) makes low $100K but her boyfriend (24), a university classmate, makes multiple times what she makes. She was initially attracted to him because he was tall and handsome …
/r/RedPillWomen08/09/24 03:48 PM
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Sometimes when men call you "intimidating", they mean you exude masculine energy. So qualities like argumentative, rude, dull, take things the wrong way, easy to offend, etc.
/r/RedPillWomen01/08/24 08:41 PM
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Take advantage of your college years to make friends. Join clubs, volunteer groups, etc. You'll likely never again be in an environment where you are surrounded by hundreds of people your age.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/24 04:18 PM
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ok
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/24 04:08 PM
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ok
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/24 04:08 PM
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Yes. See above.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/24 04:04 PM
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Refer to my previous post from this point on. Lol
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/24 04:04 PM
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And you too! Enjoying being simple and cruel.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/24 04:03 PM
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Lol
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/24 04:02 PM
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You too. Enjoy being simple and cruel.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/24 03:56 PM
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No employer would ghost you. Lol
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/24 03:55 PM
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And you too. Enjoy being cruel.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/24 03:53 PM
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Use my words to hurt her more as I dump her? You do know that she'd want to know why I am dumping her right? So I'd be forced to explain to her how she's been a shit friend. No matter how nicely I put things, she'd be hurt. Like when your boss is firing you and tells you that you'd make a great worker... just not here. Except this is a personal relationship, so I'd be forced to dig into specific incidents. She'd argue and, in this particular case, highly likely that she'd beg for another chance.…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/24 02:15 PM
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Good point! Thank you.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/24 01:54 PM
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Yes, ghost her and block her everywhere. Why go through so much aggravation for someone you dislike so much? She sounds horrible.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/24 04:30 AM
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Why are you "coping"? You are too young to settle for someone who's lost enthusiasm for life.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/24 04:58 PM
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What do you mean? I assume if OP goes through with med school and residency, she'd become a doctor, make doctor money and pay off her own debt. Did I miss something else she said elsewhere?
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/24 08:09 PM
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His concerns are the main reason my daughter (23) dropped med school in her senior year after surviving her school's insanely rigorous weed out process. It's another decade of school/residency post undergrad during which you have little control over your location. You are essentially trading your 20s for future career and income. For a woman who wants a family, this is a difficult and uncertain path. He sounds like a serious man. There is no point in getting to exclusivity and beyond if you are …
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/24 07:25 PM
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I am not pretending. I would never EVER read another person's journal (except when someone's life is in danger). I have even stopped a couple of friends from sharing too many intimate details too soon. I just know that they would end up regretting telling me too much even if I stay loyal and keep their secret. Yes, for some reason, people have the tendency to trust me too soon. It's like another poster said "play stupid games, win stupid prizes". Most of the time people don't even really mean wh…
/r/RedPillWomen03/07/24 03:00 PM
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Haha yes, my daughter used to insist on splitting the bill with her boyfriend (both 24). Then about a year into their relationship, she realized that he felt "proud" to pay for her so she stopped offering. She just thanks him now. Smart girl.
/r/RedPillWomen02/07/24 01:20 PM
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Your post makes him sound like a fast-talking scam artist. He has you thinking that giving him your sexual and emotional exclusivity without requiring the same of him is somehow "reasonable". Moving to another house and taking better care of oneself are not the kind of obstacles that would keep a man from committing to a woman. He is not committing to you because he doesn't think you are "the one".
/r/RedPillWomen01/07/24 06:54 PM
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First he invaded your privacy (literally nothing is more private than our thoughts that we choose to keep to ourselves). Then he displayed extreme immaturity for not being able to either keep his bad act to himself or understanding that there is a reason why we keep some thoughts to ourselves. How old is he? If he is 18 or 19, I would consider giving him another chance. Otherwise, I would move on. PS. keep your journals hidden!
/r/RedPillWomen01/07/24 02:25 PM
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Why would you buy a house with someone who clearly doesn't want to marry you? After 4years, he knows all there's to know about you and he is not convinced that you are "the one". Always believe actions over words. If you buy a house together, consider what will happen if you decide to split. What if the market is bad and neither of you can afford to move out? What if he wants to move in his new girlfriend when you are still living there? You'll end up making a bad financial decision just to get …
/r/RedPillWomen26/06/24 02:51 PM
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True.
/r/RedPillWomen25/06/24 01:30 PM
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My daughter's bf (24) works 12+hr days as a R&D engineer for a very high profile private transportation company and makes multiple times what she makes (and she makes low $100K!) Her best friend told her that she (bestie) would never tolerate that kind of work schedule and strongly suggested that daughter move on. The fact that he gives daughter all his limited free time and puts in so much effort makes no difference to the bestie's opinion of their relationship. I can't tell if it's malicious o…
/r/RedPillWomen25/06/24 01:17 PM
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You should have given up when he first broke up with you. But still, better today than tomorrow. He doesn't want to marry you and he is not husband material anyway.
/r/RedPillWomen17/06/24 03:02 AM
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What about the "manic" part? I'm clearly not familiar with this type, but I had assumed that MPDGs have significant mental health issues/trauma, hence the "manic".
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/24 09:15 PM
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No amount of strategy, RPW or otherwise, will ever turn a narcissist into a HVM. As humans, we can talk ourselves into believing literally anything. Your vetting process is only as good as your willingness to be honest with yourself. My guess is that, during your vetting process, you talked every red flag into some sort of "leadership" quality. Not only does this not help you see your reality, it actually has the opposite effect -- you talk yourself into believing your own spin about him, hence …
/r/RedPillWomen12/03/24 03:37 PM
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If you asked him "are we bf/gf?" I think he'd say no. He clearly treats you like a fwb. Just for sex, not for taking out to restaurants, to meet family and friends, to spoil with thoughtful gifts, to exert himself fixing your car, etc. You are only hurting yourself by letting him use you like this.
/r/RedPillWomen02/03/24 04:33 AM
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If he can tell that it's a gift you can't afford, then it's not great. Plus the fact that it's not a special occasion and you've been together for just a few months. The best gifts are ones where the recipient didn't know he wanted until he saw it. Things that show you've been paying attention to him. For ex, my 20yo gave her now ex-bf a set of packing cubes for his backpack because she noticed he was using plastic bags. My 23yo made her bf a poster with locations of significance to them. Anyway…
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/24 04:29 PM
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Need more context. Are you bf/gf? How long have you been dating? What's the occasion for giving this gift? What is the gift? How old are y'all?
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/24 04:03 AM
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Why are you being downvoted for telling the truth in rpw? Yes OP, I think, in the realm of qualities we look for in a partner, it is on the shallow side because being "taller than you" doesn't serve any real life purpose. Unlike, for ex, "a good income/career" which makes raising a family easier. Or "not missing arms/legs/etc" or "good mental health" which make life easier in general. Or "body count" which says something about the person's character and/or mental health.
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/24 04:29 PM
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How so? I looked briefly and all I see is that she has a sexual kink. I don't see how that is contradictory to having traditional values. People can do whatever consenting sexual acts but if she's a loyal partner and believes in marriage, gender roles, etc., I don't see how that makes her "the farthest thing from traditional"? But maybe further down, she reveals that she is promiscuous?
/r/RedPillWomen14/02/24 03:13 PM
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"I have become so jaded that I have this insatiable desire to just reject people before they reject me in horribly mean ways." This is extremely unattractive in a person but especially in women. The opposite of "wife material". As a matter of fact, this attitude is a turnoff not just for men, but also for women. My daughter (23 )recently cut off a hs friend because the friend bragged about being so mean that she sent an ex to a hospital. Like another poster said, HVM value a woman's social capit…
/r/RedPillWomen11/02/24 04:13 PM
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The way describe your marriage and the way you feel, something is going to happen, either now or later. Something should have happened a long time ago, but it's pointless to look back. The best you can do now is to either choose to act now/starting a plan now or choose to let bad things continue to happen to you. It will obviously not be easy. The first thing you need to figure out is a way to financially care for yourself and your baby. Don't do anything rash until you have that figured out.
/r/RedPillWomen09/02/24 02:49 PM
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No, this is a change in behavior. OP said they used to talk daily. Something is up.
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/24 03:45 PM
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I came upon it while scrolling reddit and just thought the RPW accurately describes how the world works.
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/24 02:16 PM
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Why are you expecting him to text or call you? You broke up with him.
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/24 07:27 PM
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I think it's a good idea to give him the list because it'll give you crystal clear clarity on where you stand with him. The low effort tells me that he is not committed to you. Him telling you that he is a "slow mover" tells me that he is not planning on committing to you either. But I think it's fair for you to press the issue before moving on. Where most women fail is in accepting a verbal agreement as commitment. The reality is that, unless he backs it up with actions, it's just another tacti…
/r/RedPillWomen24/01/24 01:48 PM
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I think, depending on how much he enjoys wilderness and the outdoors, yes, this could be a deal breaker. Men in intellectual/prestigious careers tend to value efficiency. Doing a favorite activity with his love is an efficient way to maximize his leisure time. Why are you so opposed to trying a beginner version of his wilderness hikes? Laying out on a beach all day might be a step too far for your man, but I think you could interest him in romantic cities. From Paris to Hong Kong to Rio, literal…
/r/RedPillWomen19/01/24 06:47 PM
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Are you missing educated? If so, you are in luck. I read that 40% of people who are married met their partners in college. And obviously, the more selective your college is, the higher the concentration of HVM and future HVM. My daughter met her HVM (both 23) at her Ivy League. He made almost $400K his first year out of college. Speaking from both personal and daughters' experiences, what these guys tend to look for, in addition to what I've already listed are: intellectual compatibility, sense …
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/24 02:27 PM
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Is he married? Is he not going to acknowledge your baby as his? If he is, then of course he should provide for your living expenses when you are pregnant and in need.
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/24 04:29 AM
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What do you bring to the table? Are you beautiful, educated, sweet, nurturing, high income, upper middle class, talented, etc.?
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/24 04:02 AM
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Selection bias. People who come here to ask for advice are the ones struggling. Happily coupled people aren't here asking for advice.
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/24 08:06 PM
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I'm one of those moms. Why are you surprised?
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/24 06:28 PM
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Tickets and itinerary to a vintage car show.
/r/RedPillWomen10/01/24 08:31 PM
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Good luck OP! I am so glad I commented lol.
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/24 11:46 PM
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My friend's daughter (28) signed up for The League and within a short time (3-4 months) was in a serious relationship with a man of her same caliber. I think it's pretty expensive and they require that you go on a certain number of dates/mo or they kick you out. As the name implies, you have to be a graduate of tier-1 universities (Ivies, Georgetown, Chicago, etc.) and your job matters too. There's a waiting list.
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/24 11:24 PM
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What's his definition of "worth it"? Sex?
/r/RedPillWomen19/12/23 08:16 PM
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No, plenty of traditional women in non religious countries (i.e. China).
/r/RedPillWomen15/12/23 07:49 PM
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I feel this is causing some power dynamic shifts in our relationship, and I may be left with a feminine man if it keeps up. Not sure what you mean by "this one". But whatever "this one" is, it clearly is very important if you think it could potentially change your power dynamics enough to turn him into a "feminine man".
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/23 03:06 AM
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You should keep looking. You don't see him as your leader.
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/23 12:12 AM
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I vetted effort, moral character, and generosity. Excellent list. Congrats!
/r/RedPillWomen13/12/23 05:08 PM
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You are right to be cautious. Besides, there is no reason you can't both hold a job and be feminine. They are not mutually exclusive.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/23 11:36 PM
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Is this a masculinity issue? I think the problem is that he doesn't love and cherish you. I would dump him. No need to go back in time.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/23 03:08 PM
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In early 20s, they are in tier-1 universities in the country and are snatched up by their beautiful and equally accomplished classmates.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/23 02:50 PM
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Ugh this is such an unattractive attitude.
/r/RedPillWomen10/12/23 11:21 PM
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Is he stingy towards you? Because there can be other reasons why someone is reluctant to upgrade still functioning things. For ex, I am reluctant to replace still functioning appliances for environmental reasons, unless I know the new technology has much improved energy efficiency. I am a bit more willing to upgrade furniture because I don't want my house to look decrepit.
/r/RedPillWomen10/12/23 05:51 PM
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My daughter and her bf are both 23, young like you guys. She feels loved when he assembles her furniture, changes her lightbulbs, hangs up her artwork, reconfigures her wifi, builds her a small table for her balcony, etc. Just things to make her life more comfortable, especially if they are things she hadn't thought of. She also really appreciates when he makes a special effort to be engaging (he is an introvert) and helpful to her friends and family. He also gives her expensive gifts but I feel…
/r/RedPillWomen06/12/23 04:53 PM
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Meh just live and let live. Why create drama when you don't have to? We all can get along with a much wider range of people if we just give up imposing our views on others. Their loss anyway.
/r/RedPillWomen06/12/23 03:39 PM
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"Long skirt or dresses over pants" and docs -- is your style goth/emo? Maybe your bf is asking you to dress more sundress-feminine or basic-feminine. Or, as someone else pointed out, less shapeless and frumpy.
/r/RedPillWomen20/11/23 07:01 PM
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I hate to tell you this but you are still in the "breaking up and making up" stage. All the bs about him judging you "not ready for marriage" is to keep you as a placeholder while he looks for someone he wants to marry. You've wasted 4 years on this man and, if you really want to marry and children, you should cut your losses.
/r/RedPillWomen08/11/23 02:48 PM
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Yes I too have trouble with the standard recommendation here re paying for bills. I definitely think that if a young woman is dating someone older and established, then yes, he should pay, at least most of the time. But this is not realistic when both make around the same or when they are still students. Personally, I favor taking turns instead of splitting everything 50-50 down to the penny.
/r/RedPillWomen30/10/23 01:28 PM
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You didn't do anything wrong imo, just laying out the truth -- time is money and he took your time under false pretenses. But you should know that what you are doing with this arrangement is that you are giving him a second chance. Is it a good idea? No one knows. On the one hand, he has shown himself to be not trustworthy but, on the other hand, he seems genuinely regretful. I personally don't subscribe to "once a cheater, always a cheater". I would advice you to proceed with caution and, obvio…
/r/RedPillWomen25/10/23 02:25 PM
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The fact that he is lying about his own count tells you that he cares a lot about it. And if he cares about it for men, then he definitely cares about it for women. So you definitely risk driving him away if you tell him the truth. But, if you don't, you can expect him to try his best to find out. And if you lie, you'll have to make sure that he never meets anyone who knows you.
/r/RedPillWomen20/10/23 02:54 PM
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Excellent linked post. Thanks!
/r/RedPillWomen17/10/23 01:13 AM
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I think it's accurate for the population as a whole but, depending on where you personally fall as a women, you may not see it. For example, I would say almost every single man in my daughters' sphere is over 6 ft and is either still in college or making $100k+.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/23 02:20 AM
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He's not serious about you. It's only been two months, you haven't even had sex yet and he already can't be bothered to hide his natural rude, immature, and arrogant self.
/r/RedPillWomen15/10/23 06:27 PM
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Talk is cheap. He can say he misses you all he wants, his lack of action tells you exactly how he feels. My daughter is also in a LDR (both 23). Her bf's job is intense and long hours whereas her job is WFH, so she flies to him mostly, but he pays for her tickets. And, for special occasions like her bday or their anniversary, he flies to her even if he can only stay <48hrs. OP, you deserve someone who is into you.
/r/RedPillWomen13/10/23 05:46 PM
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Why did you go back to your ex? What did he offer you that he did not when you broke up? Unless I am misreading, it sounds like you are getting even less this time than you had when you broke up. Right now, you aren't his official girlfriend, you don't even have his exclusivity, both of which, I assume, you had when you broke up. He is not making plans which can only mean that he is not eager to see you. I am sorry but you are wasting your time with this man.
/r/RedPillWomen12/10/23 09:37 PM
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Upon seeing you for the first time, he didn't feel attracted to you and did not want to date you. Later, he would occasionally swipe on you when he's bored, between girls. But he's very popular and would inevitably meet someone else between the time he swiped on you and when you responded. So then he ignores you. Repeat whenever he's bored and sees you on dating apps.
/r/RedPillWomen08/10/23 08:22 AM
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For men, it's "If it's not "hell yes!" then it's a no." If you can't make him fall in love with you in the first year of your courtship, you can't make him fall in love with you. Time to cut your loses.
/r/RedPillWomen01/10/23 03:08 PM
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He is locking you in a bedroom with no way to get out except for him to open it. What happens if he doesn't come back for a few days? You need to figure out a way to safely leave asap. You are not safe right now.
/r/RedPillWomen30/09/23 01:58 PM
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If he sets you up with an internship, it probably means that he is buddies with your internship boss. This means that he'll have access to you and worse, if you spurn him, would that affect your working relationship with your boss? This has drama written all over it. I would try and find an internship myself.
/r/RedPillWomen29/09/23 07:09 PM
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You being you (beautiful and a provider) is hurting his pride. And instead of bettering himself, he is whiny and unpleasant. But he's got a point though -- why are you with him?
/r/RedPillWomen20/09/23 12:21 AM
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You can stop doing all that you are doing -- don't call, don't text, don't say "I love you", don't plan, etc. -- and see if he sticks around. That's how you reset your expectations with him. Just be prepared that he'll just let you fade away. But it's a good exercise no matter the result. Men in love don't act the way he does. You deserve someone who is into you.
/r/RedPillWomen19/09/23 04:15 PM
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They are one and the same. I've never fallen in love with anyone who isn't capable, intelligent and ambitious.
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 03:36 PM
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You are misunderstanding the feedback people give you. For ex: "Shallow/materialistic" does not refer to wearing feminine outfits. It refers to your attitude, that you care a lot about things that signal you have money. For ex, do you care more about how expensive a restaurant is vs. how good the food is or whether a restaurant has sentimental value to your bf? When your bf gives you gift, do you appreciate it more if it's expensive? Basically, you don't know the value of something (a gift or a …
/r/RedPillWomen16/09/23 01:27 PM
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I think you two really are incompatible. I don't think him being an atheist was necessarily the problem as much as the type of spirituality you are into vs. a standard religion. Atheists are intellectuals, so as such, he would see and respect Judaism/Christianity/Buddhism/etc. as more of a culture rather than a religious belief. But tarot cards, he would see as juvenile and, as someone else pointed out, uneducated, especially if you make it a significant part of your personality and/or take it s…
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/23 01:50 PM
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Link? I'd like to check the year. I feel like the pandemic has changed some things.
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/23 09:19 PM
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Is there's recent data that shows couples are less likely to marry each other if they lived together prior to marriage? If not, then the "risk" is the same as living with a roommate.
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/23 04:12 PM
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This is correct. I am surrounded by Ivy leaguers (husband, in-laws, brother, children, cousins, nephews/nieces, and their friends) and not one of them is married to a woman without a college degree and a career. Although they don't tend to care how lucrative her career is. It just needs to be a career (not a min wage job).
/r/RedPillWomen05/09/23 11:45 PM
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He and his family are all still in the drug business. That is how he makes his very nice living. As long as he stays in the same town he grew up in, that's what he'll be doing. Even if he tries to leave in good faith, they'll pull him back because some cousin who's like a brother will always need him to save them.
/r/RedPillWomen30/08/23 01:15 PM
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Excellent point. OP gave a pass to her bf but took the nuclear option on the waitress for something minor. Idk what country they are from, but if it's a country that doesn't send many people to OP's country, then it's perfectly understandable that the waitress would be excited to see a fellow countryman.
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/23 09:59 PM
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I apologize, I just threw out a number I saw a while ago either here or some other subreddit. But I just googled and it seems that the number is 28% from 2013. Not sure if there are newer studies but here's a writeup from 2013 https://www.businessinsider.com/28-people-marry-attended-same-college-2013-10
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/23 02:33 PM
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You rent about crappy women getting used by crappy men. Their relationships dont last because it never meant to be a long term relationship for these guys in the first place. This is a cope. Sure not all college relationships work out but that's exactly what dating is for. But in the end, about 40% of people who went to college marry someone from their college.
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/23 01:30 PM
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Lol I don't know either. I am very happy for you though!
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/23 10:09 PM
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100% agree with you. The blanket rule that I think can be counterproductive for the modern woman is "don't ever ask a man out". The landscape for men in the #metoo era can discourage some men from being proactive. This is on top of the fact that most men are just not good at picking up your hints. So I think a woman can miss out if she unbendingly sticks to this rule. That said, I do agree that even today's men like a chase, so yes, after you ask him out that first time, let him do the chasing.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/23 03:33 PM
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I have two gen z daughters and 3 gen z nieces so I feel like I know girls that age pretty well. I know this is controversial but my theory is that many young women retrofit what they say they want based on what they can land. For ex, my nieces, all three of them came out as bi/them in hs. I've watched them grow up and not once did they ever shown preference for boy hobbies. They danced, made art, played house, baked and cooked and wore girly dresses. I see the same with some childhood friends of…
/r/RedPillWomen02/08/23 01:57 PM
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Is his girlfriend ugly, fat and masculine? Even then, your chances are extremely slim. Why would he want to raise someone else's child with a woman who had already shown him disloyalty?
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/23 05:29 AM
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How are you not giving him "peace"?
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/23 10:26 PM
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"Hey do you want children? I want 3 myself, ideally." It's never "desperate" or "weird" to want to avoid wasting time. If his answer to the above question is not a match with yours, you save yourself (and him) a wasted second date.
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/23 03:45 AM
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You are 29 so you should get over being weirded out by straight talk about family. My daughter, 23 yo, grew up in the NYC metro area. She and her bf, whom she met at her tier-1 uni in the east coast, began talking about family, kids, etc. on their first date (she brought it up). There is no point wasting your time with someone who is not looking for the same thing. As to your guy, maybe you didn't come across to him like you really want to be a mother. The fact that he brought up his bestie and …
/r/RedPillWomen27/07/23 06:29 PM
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From what you described, do you act physically "big and alert" -- standing, feet spread, lots of arm movements, etc. -- when you are in a group situation? Sometimes, our physicality influences our emotions. If this is you, maybe try to calm down physically -- relax your arms and sit quietly. Hopefully this physical position can help you listen better and deeper, which is what female relationship is all about.
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/23 12:35 PM
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What worked for me was to minimize temptations -- no "bad" food in your environment. This starts with very disciplined grocery shopping. Make a list and stick to it. Obviously nothing bad for your diet goes on that list. Also make sure you are full(ish) when you go grocery shopping. Studies show (and I personally can attest) that shopping hungry makes junk food feel irresistible. Sometimes I get cravings for junk, but the thought of having to put on a jacket and drive to the store... I always en…
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/23 03:05 PM
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Have you met? How often do you see each other? Do you have plans to close the distance?
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/23 04:50 PM
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He felt emasculated by you.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/23 03:58 PM
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Have you considered freezing your eggs? That could take some pressure off of your relationship. It's costly, I know.
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/23 04:19 PM
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I don't see a problem.
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/23 02:48 PM
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Personally, I would have talked about these issues before I moved in w him. I wouldn't want to waste my time unless we can agree on the timeline of marriage and kids. The prenup also needs to be talked about.
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/23 08:20 PM
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A female doctor posted here a while ago and said, among other things, that male doctors and residents have women throw themselves at them. She said something like "you really have to see it to believe it" Lol I guess it's true.
/r/RedPillWomen05/07/23 07:02 PM
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There are so many men on dating apps, why waste time on these desperate losers?
/r/RedPillWomen05/07/23 04:11 PM
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Universities and online dating apps are still your best bet. I know you are frustrated w OLD but you need to just block the dumbasses who send you sexual messages and keep moving. Takes you one second per dumbass. You can't just expect a prince to land in your lap without putting in the effort. And keep looking in your uni. They are there. Look for guys who grew up outside of NYC and/or come from intact happy families. I live in a wealthy suburb of NYC and personally know many men in their early…
/r/RedPillWomen04/07/23 04:51 PM
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I am not Muslim. 20% is not realistic. Unless he suffers a life-changing injury, the chances of him taking a second wife is almost 100%. Also, for me as a mother, my jealousy have been triggered, not for myself, but on behalf of my children. I don't think I would be able to handle if my husband were to show preference for a child who is not mine.
/r/RedPillWomen01/07/23 03:53 PM
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Holding firm boundaries is neither masculine nor feminine. Like another poster suggested, you should read the wiki. Re. your recent guy -- don't date toxic controlling men. Do not ever cut off your family and friends. They are your resources. In fact, if a man sees you as a LTR prospect, he'll also see your people as potential resources for him -- for you both in the future.
/r/RedPillWomen30/06/23 03:46 PM
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Haha yes.
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/23 01:49 PM
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You are offended because he reduced you to one body part. On top of it, he sexualized/trivialized that body part. All done in public. Of course you were embarrassed. Sure, you can "learn to let loose" or he can learn to respect you in public.
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/23 01:36 PM
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Your bf is abusive. Why are you letting him isolate you socially? When he starts to abuse you physically, you'll have no one to turn to for help because you've ghosted all your friends. Do you have family?
/r/RedPillWomen24/06/23 03:43 PM
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Wear dresses (look up Mia Farrow in Rosemary's Baby) and go on a diet. Acknowledge that your mom is on a different path and refuse to eat more than you intend. This time next year, you'll be a girlypop.
/r/RedPillWomen13/06/23 01:57 PM
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Like he said, if he could he would. He can't afford a non-working partner. If you want to be with him, you'll have to help bring in the bacon. If your priority is to be taken care of financially then he is not your guy. A man who can easily afford a SAH gf has a lot of options, so you need to ask yourself if you have what they are looking for.
/r/RedPillWomen11/06/23 12:50 PM
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I didn't know I was a RPW until I happened on this sub. To me, it's just how things are/work irl.
/r/RedPillWomen10/06/23 04:14 PM
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Why do you have to quit your job in order to move in with him?
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/23 04:25 PM
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Don't fret. If your young cousins and nieces are on tiktok, they are getting more modern feminist, anti-men, anti-SAHM messages often from glamorous women idolized by young women.
/r/RedPillWomen07/06/23 06:00 PM
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How was she "super clingy"?
/r/RedPillWomen04/06/23 09:16 PM
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Idk why you are being downvoted. You are 100% correct -- men from conservative wealthy families do not want to marry girls with careers that are based on them showing off their physical beauty. They'll enthusiastically date them though... and waste their time.
/r/RedPillWomen03/06/23 04:28 PM
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two points I want to make: The unofficial "retirement age" of non brand name models is 23 for the kind of models who are valued for their beauty (vs. fit models or body part models etc). Do you already have an agent? If not, like someone said, you'll have to be realistic. I follow an influencer, Katy Bellotte, whose podcasts follow her dating life in NYC. In a recent episode, a date told her that she'd be perfect if not for her influencing. Sent her on a spiral, questioning her whole career. My …
/r/RedPillWomen03/06/23 04:17 PM
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I agree with you that you are in a Charles/Diana/Camilla situation. And you know well what happened to Diana. And to Camilla! You don't have to accept it.
/r/RedPillWomen02/06/23 08:42 PM
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Man who truly stay single and own it, Wait, have we moved on from the man who "orders up women like pizzas"? Or are you saying: man who orders up women like pizzas = man who truly stay single and own it?
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/23 07:40 PM
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Yea, I don't know for sure either. I am mostly going by the common wisdom that "past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior" and that's why in job interviews they ask how you've tackled challenging situations in past jobs. Also, on this sub, I've read several times that the reason why men reject high-count women is because these women are more likely to cheat (I think there may be some data on this?) I am extrapolating that to men, but I also wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't happ…
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/23 05:57 PM
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If your goal is long-term/forever marriage then a man who "orders women up like pizzas" wouldn't be your HVM since men like that are more likely to abandon the marriage. The fact that they have so many options, coupled with their habit/desire to "order women up like pizzas", can actually make them less desirable for women of this mindset.
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/23 05:06 PM
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Lol I am also confused. OP already has a child with her bf but, now that he's healthier and trying to make things right, she wants to play hard to get?
/r/RedPillWomen22/05/23 02:05 PM
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Thank you for the illuminative stats! People might be tempted to conclude that, based on these stats, women have the upper hand in dating up until age 50. I would just remind everyone that women are way more selective than men, both because we are naturally wired to do so but also for practical reason especially if we want children. So how many of the 63% (single men 18-19 age range) actually meet most women's criteria? Maybe 20%? So the competition for this group of men is fierce despite women'…
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/23 04:32 PM
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Not true for anyone who is not 100% superficially driven. My daughter's bf (22) said in response to her question about what he thought about "love at first sight": "Of course I don't believe in it. How insulting."
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/23 03:49 PM
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I think you may be what men call "too clingy". Are you available all the time, any time, to him? Do you have an active social life of your own when you are dating him? Do you have a job that requires business travel, attending certain functions, zoom calls with colleagues in Asia, etc? Do you go with him when he hangs out or go away on a trip with his "bros"? Do you "forbid" him from hanging out or even just chatting with his female friends or coworkers? It's hard to know where the line is, but …
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/23 01:28 PM
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I am not a psychiatrist, but I think if people can heal enough from serious childhood trauma to lead productive lives , then I don't see why you can't heal from this kind of damage. My understanding is that people who engage in casual sex tend to suffer from low self esteem, depression and other trauma. So these have to be addressed as well. A good therapist can help you. As a basic first step, I would start by treating my body as the temple it was meant to be. You are young, it's not too late a…
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/23 08:36 PM
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My understanding on how women can be damaged through casual sex is that eventually sex loses meaning for them. The problem with sex not being associated with deep meaning is that it makes you less likely to fall in love, less satisfied/happy with your monogamous (boring?) relationship, and therefore, more likely to be tempted and ultimately, more likely to cheat. There's research to back this up but, for some reason, men seem to instinctively know this.
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/23 04:53 PM
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Taking 10 months to figure this out is a sign of serious immaturity. No, it's actually a sign of maturity. He was falling for OP and trying to convince himself that he's ok with her past. It's him trying to know OP well enough to weigh all of her vs. her n count. I can't believe anyone would think 10 months is too long to get to know someone well enough to know if you want to spend the rest of your life with them.
/r/RedPillWomen10/05/23 06:58 PM
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Is letting you skip functions with his family an option?
/r/RedPillWomen10/05/23 06:06 PM
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Maybe an older divorced man who has grown children and don't want more?
/r/RedPillWomen02/05/23 03:46 PM
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Here the thing, in modern society, a SAHM is a luxury most men can't afford. Those who can afford, also have many options when it comes to potential partners. If your goal is to live in relative comfort as a SAHM, then you need to ask yourself if you have the qualities such a man look for in a partner. I would say, being in college and have a career helps you attract the right type of men.
/r/RedPillWomen30/04/23 06:13 PM
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You are doing wrong by your ex. The more you text him, the more he is going to believe that there's hope of getting back with you. You judged the situation incorrectly -- he wasn't "indifferent". Let him go, let him heal without being constantly given false hopes by you. Once he's blocked, he'll no longer be a secret and you can tell your current bf about this mistake you made and corrected.
/r/RedPillWomen28/04/23 07:47 PM
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You are just 22, so you have time and can afford to pass on him and continue to look. It's ok to have superficial standards as well as more substantive ones. Like my daughter (also 22) likes to say "por que no los dos?" You can afford to do so for a few more years. That said, another poster made an excellent point -- you mentioned other guys from college you wished you had dated -- so why didn't you? Was it because they weren't interested in you? You can have any standards you want but, if you a…
/r/RedPillWomen28/04/23 07:38 PM
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High achieving men care. Not necessarily about your income, but they care if you are at their level of intelligence and have a direction in life. My husband cared that I, like him, went to a prestigious university and had a career. That was 30 yrs ago, but it's still true today. My daughter's bf (both 22) cares that she is also a tier-1 college grad and has a management track job at a Fortune 50. He makes 5X what she makes, pays for everything and knows that she may want to be a SAHM one day. Sh…
/r/RedPillWomen28/04/23 07:00 PM
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Effort is the clearest indication of his interest in you. The bigger the effort, the more his interest. Be careful how you judge "effort" -- for a man with a lot of money, buying you stuff isn't necessarily an indication of effort, unless the stuff is specific to your wants and interests. Taking you on a trip is not "effort" if it's a business trip for him. But, if a man who works stressful, 13 hr days spends 3 hrs researching something to give you or improve your life, that is "effort" regardle…
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/23 01:20 PM
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he didn’t think it would be that bad of a drive since there are times he sits and works all day. What does he do for a living? Are you sure he isn't living paycheck to paycheck? I mean why else would he choose to spend 40 hours driving instead of spending them with you? He does not have his shit together if he doesn't have a job that pays enough to afford a domestic flight and pay for management of his depression.
/r/RedPillWomen25/04/23 02:35 PM
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Based on what you said and his age, it sounds like this whole RPM thing might be a phase. He's talking with all the bravado of a young man who hasn't been humbled by life yet. I expect him to soften his rhetoric around #1-#9 after a more meaningful setback and he comes to rely on you emotionally. #10 though, imo, is worrisome. Which conspiracy theories are we talking about here? Some are fun speculations like strange events that have no satisfactory explanations, but if it's things like the holo…
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/23 06:21 PM
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I would give him a chance then, based on your clarification here.
/r/RedPillWomen21/04/23 06:46 PM
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Ok I am not going to dismiss your concerns. They are valid. I think you can lower your criteria in terms of his looks and his education/career/income and that'll help open up your dating pool. However, I don't think you should lower your standards in terms of how much he wants to be with you. Daily life, 24/7, with a man who doesn't love and appreciate you will drain your spirit. A man who is not into you, who may be looking to leave you for someone else, will never make you happy. So my advice …
/r/RedPillWomen11/04/23 03:07 AM
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You are very low maintenance and that's ok. But I don't think you should accept a man who isn't proud to be seen with you in public. If a man loves you, he'd naturally be excited about you and would -- naturally -- want to show you off to his friends and family. If he doesn't do this, he is not in love with you. I am guessing that your parents are immigrants or are from a very conservative culture where public display of affection is discouraged. But if a young man treated you the way your paren…
/r/RedPillWomen11/04/23 02:24 AM
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She is a great listener, is very emotionally mature, has a growth mindset and is always improving herself, and has a good heart. You are pretty much describing anyone who is capable of being a good friend. So you are definitely looking for more than that, otherwise you wouldn't be having such difficulty. How do you think women who have those qualities look/dress like?
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/23 07:01 PM
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then he asked me how many guys i’ve kissed - i said 3. Girl, you gotta keep your answers consistent! No wonder your bf keeps pressing you for the truth.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/23 05:10 PM
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So those are significant value differences. Compromising on them is a short term solution. I think you should keep looking. Centrist men aren't that rare.
/r/RedPillWomen27/03/23 06:29 PM
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This is comparing apples to oranges. He is asking you to give up one source of your income vs. you asking him to give up one source of his entertainment. He is asking wayyy too much in exchange for giving up porn. Lol he just doesn't want to and probably won't.
/r/RedPillWomen27/03/23 01:32 PM
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It's not "narrow", it's "advanced". Think of RPW as Chem 301. We are done learning about the periodic table and basic chemical reactions. Your points are too basic. Seriously, go debate them at r/PurplePillDebate
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/23 11:58 PM
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No it's a waste of time. We are beyond that. We aren't interested in debating whether a truth is good or bad. We are only interested in helping each other find ways to make that truth work for us.
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/23 11:43 PM
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I tried but also didn't understand what OP was saying.
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/23 11:38 PM
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Yes, as in everything in life, there are exceptions. But r/innsecurity is right, OP's options have shrunken vs. what her options would have been had she been a 19 yo young woman without a child.
/r/RedPillWomen23/03/23 02:59 PM
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I wonder what would have happened if I had been vigilant about her losing weight and been patient and trying different angles Meh you can't change people. They have to want to change and she didn't want to. Also, taking care of someone with chronic illnesses is not for everyone so I wouldn't feel bad about it.
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/23 02:48 PM
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I hope knowing that he is an inconsiderate person will help you get over him. Sorry this happened.
/r/RedPillWomen21/03/23 08:04 PM
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He is saying that, if you want to be with him, you have to accept that he has the right to freely express his disdain for you. This is not good.
/r/RedPillWomen15/03/23 01:37 AM
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It's totally normal to like one person more out of a group of friends. But I wouldn't confront her about her friends. She won't choose you over all her friends. You can can invite her to hang out, just the two of you.
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/23 06:13 PM
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Sorry for characterizing your reaction that way. It's just that, if I knew you took your tinder account off because of a generic tinder joke I made, I would feel like I do have to "walk on egg shells" around you because the last thing I want is for a friend/coworker to think that I am making them "the butt of my jokes".
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/23 05:37 PM
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OP, you have a very defensive and negative attitude which is the opposite of the light, fun and caring attitude encouraged by RPW. Running away from the old man who made a light hearted joke, sudden ghosting of someone because he is handsome, taking personal offense to a coworker's joke about tinder (ppl do joke about tinder you know) are all examples of your negativity and propensity to think the worst of people. People, not just men, must walk on egg shells around you.
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/23 05:13 PM
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Hmmm I think you are the one who's portraying himself as a "victim" here. But, as usual, the devil is in the details. Show me the exchange and I'll tell you why I think that happened.
/r/RedPillWomen07/03/23 04:38 AM
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Like this? You: nice ass! She: leaves you on read You: you c&*t who do you think you are?? And your question is why wouldn't she just politely ask you to leave her alone PLEASE instead of screenshotting and posting it? Lol
/r/RedPillWomen07/03/23 04:22 AM
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So problem resolved, right? You never have to interact with him again.
/r/RedPillWomen05/03/23 03:21 AM
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"he neglected me after the break up" Were you expecting him to help you move on to a new bf after you broke up with him? What insanity is this?
/r/RedPillWomen02/03/23 06:19 PM
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What's your definition of "accountability"? If you mean good old social skills (i.e. if you made a mistake, you apologize), then you should generally distance yourself from people (partner, friends, coworkers, etc) who lack the ability to be introspective and/or are too proud to ever apologize. If you are talking specifically about hetero relationships, then I would say, outside of the above generic social skills, women are already burdened with the accountability for the ultimate result of a re…
/r/RedPillWomen02/03/23 03:11 PM
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Stop being friends with an ex. And block them on all sm and irl. Out of sight, out of mind is real.
/r/RedPillWomen01/03/23 03:04 PM
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they care immensely about their partner's education and career (though not specifically about money.) let me direct you to my previous post -- the post you are responding to.
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/23 05:45 PM
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Ok, again, we have different definition "socio-economic status" -- you are ignoring the "socio-" part. I'm from a family Ivy Leaguers and both of my daughters went/go to a tier-1 universities on the east coast. I talk to their classmates and to the men in my extended family, and yes -- they care immensely about their partner's education and career (though not specifically about money.)
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/23 05:30 PM
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90 percent of men would take a girl with no education over one with an education any day, aside from sugar momma situations. source? Why do I feel like I am talking to an incel... I had to double check that I am on RPW.
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/23 05:20 PM
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high earning men commonly seek out women well below their bracket, hell, even settling for women living in third world countries. I don't want to be disrespectful, so I'll just say that we have different definition of "high earning". Edit: also don't forget the "socio-" part of "socio-economic" status.
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/23 04:55 PM
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Just remember most people marry within their own socio-econ and educational background. So if you are a high school grad, you'll likely marry someone who's also a high school grad. If you are lucky, you might catch the interest of someone who has a college degree and work a low level white collar jobs or a blue collar worker. Chances are you'll have to work, likely a min wage job given your education, to contribute to your household expenses.
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/23 05:05 AM
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When my daughter (22yo) started seeing her bf about a yr ago, one of her besties would constantly "feel bad" for my daughter for things her bf would do. Things like driving her to class, closing the shades if she's still sleeping, sending her his schedule so she can plan around it, lying on the roof instead of partying, etc. Bestie was basically saying that daughter's bf was controlling. It upset my daughter. But was it worth breaking up with the bestie? Eventually when bestie realized bf was he…
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/23 04:13 AM
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In college libraries, gyms, study areas, certain clubs, etc. Sometimes even at frat parties, but she's not the drunk one making out with random boys. Online dating. If you write a good profile with details, you'll be more likely to be selected by women who are looking for LTR. In everyday life, sitting in coffee shops, volunteering at animal shelters or public parks, taking art/dance classes, grocery stores, waiting at the train station, etc. The key is learning to recognize the girly girl vibes…
/r/RedPillWomen20/02/23 06:18 PM
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" my country where the men value women that are bigger, more promiscuous, loud and aggressive bla bla bla." What country is that? I am an extremely well travelled person who has lived in the continents of Asia, Latin America, Africa, Europe and North America and I can't think of one country like the one you describe.
/r/RedPillWomen20/02/23 06:03 PM
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You are SO young, OP, you can overcome this. You don't have to accept a life without sex or a life with an asexual man or a man who loves you as a friend. Like others have said, sex is more than just sex for most men. Sex helps men attach/bond to their partner. A relationship with this kind of deep attachment is really worth striving for because it's an essential source of happiness for most women. I really hope you fight tooth and nail for your own full recovery. Sending you internet strength, …
/r/RedPillWomen20/02/23 03:03 AM
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Oh I see. Please don't listen to these people. You are not faking being a woman, you ARE a woman. Period.
/r/RedPillWomen19/02/23 11:02 PM
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"I used to feed into the trap that feminism told me about needing to be trans or some sexuality to matter " OP, what does this mean? I am in my 50s and I am confused. Are you saying that you feel encouraged by society to be trans? And how old are you if you don't mind.
/r/RedPillWomen19/02/23 10:23 PM
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Sure, if that's all one asks of life and OP were the only option in town. Edit: what I mean is that the chances of ^^^^ are infinitesimal -- a man who wants companionship without sex ever, either from OP or from anyone else, AND that there's not another woman who can give him companionship plus more (ie. less psychological damage than OP offers, for example)
/r/RedPillWomen18/02/23 05:48 PM
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TBH, OP, you really have nothing to offer that a man couldn't find in a friend or buy in the market and they wouldn't have to deal with your cons, which are substantial. Unless, are you wealthy? That'd be the only reason a man would even consider your no-sex-ever and no side piece either requirements.
/r/RedPillWomen18/02/23 03:48 PM
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Your bf's reasons for wanting to wait is not unusual for certain type of men. My daughter's bf (both 22) thinks an engagement ring is $20K, so he clearly isn't in a position to propose to her anytime soon lol. Do you believe he sincerely believes his reasons? That he isn't just saying that to get you off his back? If so, I wouldn't worry too much about it. And like someone else said, dating since 14 is different than dating for 9 yrs as an adult.
/r/RedPillWomen17/02/23 02:20 PM
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I'd just let her be a colleague, like any random colleague I see at work. I wouldn't talk to her about the snapchat thing and I wouldn't remove her from my snapchat either. Just let her do whatever and I'll just try to be cordial at work.
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/23 05:35 PM
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OP, you don't seem to understand what red pill is. Here's a short explanation from r/jenneapolis: The red pill is about seeing the truth, seeing things how they are, not how you want them to be. The goal here is for us to be strategic about getting what we want out of life and relationships. All OP is doing by obsessing over this is getting in her own way with this man or someone else. The expectations are unrealistic. Feelings aren’t facts.
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/23 02:44 PM
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yet a year later they're out and about on a dating app or meeting people at bars cuz "we have to move on in life"... That’s not true love, neither being loyal. Ah I see. Your concept of "true love/loyalty" is a willingness to bury oneself along with the partner who died or left. Clearly, your ex is not willing to do that. Not for you anyway. So you need to move on. End of the story.
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/23 02:39 PM
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You aren't doing anything wrong. But if you feel anxious, you can try taking concrete actions, for ex online dating. My daughter's roommate (also 23) went to a big 10 uni, so she will often go to sports bars in their city where alums from her uni congregate to cheer their sports team whenever there's a big game on TV. If you currently live in the suburb, you can think about moving to a city where there are more young professionals.
/r/RedPillWomen15/02/23 11:13 PM
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Because most men like casual no-strings-attached sex, at least once in a while.
/r/RedPillWomen15/02/23 04:58 PM
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I need more info -- does he know you? Or are you a fan he's never met?
/r/RedPillWomen15/02/23 01:56 PM
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You've been living in your own fantasy. You and him weren't together, therefore, there's no such a thing as "loyalty", much less "true loyalty", whatever that means. It's not "yes but men are men" at all. I am a woman and I would never deny myself sex-wise on account of a childhood boyfriend who I have lost contact with for 5 years.
/r/RedPillWomen14/02/23 04:58 PM
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He doesn't have time. It's very clear to me, from your OP that he is in a hurry.
/r/RedPillWomen14/02/23 04:48 PM
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I don't get it, why do you want to continue to "deal" with him?
/r/RedPillWomen14/02/23 04:46 PM
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I don't want to upset you, but this sounds like he still doesn't love you even after you've dropped 100 lbs and become very feminine. He isn't going to "meet your emotional needs" because he just doesn't care enough about you to put in the efforts. Men aren't complicated, they don't try to play games. If they loved you, you'd know. I knew it with my husband. I see the efforts my daughter's boyfriend puts into their relationship despite working 12 hr days. I am sorry OP.
/r/RedPillWomen14/02/23 02:23 AM
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It's very obvious. He puts in zero effort for you. He had you in a situationship for two years. He doesn't even want you around all that much. You have improved yourself so much, including losing 100 lbs. You can do better.
/r/RedPillWomen14/02/23 02:03 AM
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He's not masculine enough for you. You feel like you'd be "settling" if you end up with him. Sounds like you "love" him as a dear friend, not as a partner. And I see that you resent him for being who he is. So my advice is to let him go. That he also doesn't seem "feminine" is irrelevant. He doesn't have to be feminine in order to not be masculine enough for you.
/r/RedPillWomen13/02/23 04:30 PM
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What's been your track record? Are your previous relationships with men who meet your ideal standards? What do you think were some reasons why they didn't work out? IMO, at 30, you may have to be a little more flexible, if you want children. I know the 0.1% is probably technically true but I think it depends on your circle. I feel like my 22 yo daughter is surrounded by men who meet the criteria you listed. Her bf certainly does. And I agree with you that men of this caliber do care that you hav…
/r/RedPillWomen10/02/23 03:04 AM
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You "shouldn't have to" but you could. You can't promise a number, but you could commit to a reasonable range. I would have him make the same promise. IMO the main reason to do this is to keep each other accountable to stay healthy. Being overweight is the source of some of the most common and debilitating chronic illnesses.
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/23 02:15 PM
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I can only think of one way for you to "make peace with your husband's decision" and that is for you to accept that you are a mother who facilitates the rape of her own children.
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/23 03:52 AM
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Whatever he told you back then is superseded by what he just told you -- that you two are NOT in a relationship. You are single and free to date whoever.
/r/RedPillWomen02/02/23 02:44 AM
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You are not in a relationship, so there is no one to be "loyal" to. As a single woman looking for a LTR, you should go on dates.
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/23 10:18 PM
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You know by the efforts he puts into you and your relationship. Low effort examples: he gives you an Amazon or Target gift card for Christmas, he has no curiosity about people in your life or your hobbies, doesn't make plans, shows up late or cancels last minute a dinner plan with your dad who is visiting your city, etc. High effort examples: thoughtful gifts that shows he knows what you like or remembers something you mentioned about yourself, always punctual and clean dressed when meeting your…
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/23 10:04 PM
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Wow $10k in speeding tickets! Imagine the level of indifference and irresponsibility in order to rack up that kind of fines. I wouldn't.
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/23 12:47 AM
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Hmm I'm definitely not familiar with your culture but I am going to assume you guys are exclusive, not courting other people. So, you are right. He's not interested in you as a person. He may be interested in you as the future mother of his children, hence the one year of courting. But he is definitely not interested in who you are, what you like, what you think, etc. I am guessing here, maybe he is satisfied that you tick off his requirements for his future wife and that's all he cares about? H…
/r/RedPillWomen26/01/23 01:21 AM
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I need clarification -- what does "speaking" mean? Are you guys bf and gf and exclusive?
/r/RedPillWomen26/01/23 12:43 AM
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Well then, since you've had two adult LT relationships both lasting 3+ years, I think we can safely conclude that the attractiveness of your face won't stand in your way. You just have to find a man who shares your vision and can afford it.
/r/RedPillWomen24/01/23 01:02 AM
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You are 25, so let's start with your track record. What kind of men have you dated in the past? What did they say when you told them about your goal of being a sahw?
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/23 11:57 PM
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Taylor swift
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/23 11:32 PM
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Power and status are incredibly attractive in a man. With power and status come a whole set of other very attractive attributes such as confidence, intelligence, knowledge, worldliness, culture, taste, etc. on top of the resources and connections they have access to. Often, these men also take very good care of themselves health-wise, even if they don't spend 4hrs/day in the gym power lifting and building up a thick neck. I challenge you to name another attribute that's more or even equally attr…
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/23 05:21 PM
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Just because someone is more capable does not mean that he makes a better partner for you. Personalities, values, socio-economic/educational background, etc. are all real. It takes a while (months - years) to vet them enough to know whether or not he's the one with whom you can build the kind of future you envision. Realistically, you've probably got 10 good years to do this before you age out or become too embittered to attract the type of men you want.
/r/RedPillWomen19/01/23 02:46 PM
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There are so many people hating when you improve. I've heard so many stories about formerly-obese women who lost friends after they achieved their weight goals.
/r/RedPillWomen18/01/23 04:16 PM
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I don't support the concept of "proving" anything to anyone, not even to oneself. Oh yea, those are low-qual men.
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/23 04:36 PM
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I don't understand why any grown adult without disabilities would allow anyone to track them.
/r/RedPillWomen15/01/23 07:24 PM
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What examples do you have where women are disadvantaged by their body count as compared to men? So, my opinion is formed from observing the dynamics of dating in my daughters' age group (19 and 22 yo). We are atheists and we raised our daughters in a progressive suburb of NYC. They attend/graduated from tier-1 universities in the East coast. I tell you this so you know that I am indeed talking about "today's society" and definitely not religious. The examples are all the same. Usually a young ma…
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/23 06:08 PM
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Trust me.... I have the same harsh thoughts for the slutty Chads as I do the Slutty Sallys I do too, but I am not "society". High count is not celebrated, not even in today's society, and especially not for women.
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/23 04:48 PM
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I agree that people with high count, men and women alike, are unstable as LTR partners. But, I do think that women with high count are, in general, more damaged psychologically than men with high count. Women understand that there are harsh social consequences associated with high count. I think it takes a level of emotional alienation for a woman to actively not care and potentially damage her future irreparably. Whereas for men, the social consequences are nowhere near as severe, if any at all…
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/23 04:25 PM
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Exactly. Men in professional fields and in corporate America care a great deal about being with a woman who, at the very least, don't embarrass them, and who preferably, elevate them. While a woman can be smart without having attended college, just the fact of her not having that college degree can be embarrassing to a high achieving man. This is not even considering the fact that many women find their HVM in college, especially in prestigious universities.
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/23 04:07 PM
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Amazing. At least you got 7 kids out of it. Still sucks, I know.
/r/RedPillWomen11/01/23 07:28 PM
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Finding out your wife has been having an affair with her travel agent BF your entire marriage I am sure you've considered this already but are you sure all your kids are yours biologically? I am very sorry you had to go through that.
/r/RedPillWomen11/01/23 07:13 PM
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I'm sure he has all the qualities to adapt and show more assertiveness if only she makes it clear to him. Don't know about that. IMO that's a fundamental personality trait.
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/23 03:50 PM
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"Confront him" about what?
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/23 02:07 PM
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Why do you think your bf has so much trouble with that one specific sex partner you had?
/r/RedPillWomen05/01/23 01:44 AM
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Yes, pretty much what you said. It's "duh" for me as well, but if you go to some other subs and proclaim your life ambition to "do my thing, find a husband, have kids, quit my job and become a SAHM", you'll get a lot of put downs, especially from women. So this sub is a safe space for women to talk about strategies to achieve that vision. It's a belief that the traditional marriage serves best the biological needs/inclinations of both men and women. This is my understanding, but I am not an expe…
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 11:16 PM
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the RP narrative is almost totally based on a biological perspective of sex dynamics, So true. It's too bad that so many scientifically minded women are too socially intimidated to support it publicly. To me, the RP philosophy makes perfect logical sense.
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 03:16 PM
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So my daughters (22 and 19 yo) and I subscribe to most of the RP relationship philosophy on this sub (not 100% but 85-90%). I have a graduate degree from one of the most prestigious universities in the US. My 22yo is a recent grad of an Ivy League and in a LTR with a fellow Ivy Leaguer. My 19yo is currently a sophomore at a non-Ivy, tier-1 university majoring in Econ and Theology. My husband is a double Ivy-Leaguer (undergrad and grad) who specialized in history and English lit. I think our conv…
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 03:02 PM
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Wow that's insane that he cancelled the wedding because his teen had the flu! Sounds to me like he got cold feet and didn't want to marry you. Crying and sorry don't cut it. Did he at least offer to pay for all the expenses? Sorry you wasted two years.
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/23 08:11 PM
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This is not very clear to me... you put sick in quotes -- are you saying his daughter isn't really sick and that he's using that as an excuse to postpone your wedding? And after that, he just physically disappeared? So, have you talked to him about the postponement at all?
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/23 07:50 PM
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I am sorry things didn't go as you hoped for. I have questions and hope you can answer them, but it's totally ok if you don't want to. How long were you with each bf? And while you were doing all these nice things for them, what did they do for you? Also, did either of your ex bfs marry someone else?
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/22 04:21 AM
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So what do you do/suggest for 2nd dates? 3rd dates?
/r/RedPillWomen30/12/22 10:30 PM
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Right. That's what I thought you meant. As I said, we don't know.
/r/RedPillWomen30/12/22 02:51 PM
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Idk OP's bf's n-count nor this imaginary hook-up's n-count, so I can't tell you if I would consider their level of promiscuity equivalent, given their respective gender.
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/22 06:19 AM
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Well then, I guess she deserves to be with a promiscuous man like OP's boyfriend!
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/22 10:58 PM
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You too have a lovely day. And yes, agreed -- men and women are definitely different in many ways.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/22 07:50 PM
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Why would he fall in love with a promiscuous woman he slept with for a night when he has a faithful, committed woman at home? Just because he is promiscuous doesn't mean she is. She is his "hook up" but he may what she considers a real potential long term partner, especially if he didn't tell her about OP. u/dressedindignity
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/22 07:50 PM
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How do you know that him hooking up with others is just "hooking up"? If he is a normal human being with normal human feelings, then he is just as likely to fall in love with a "hook up" as he was with you. It's a matter of time before he meets the right "hook up", especially since you've given him no reason to exercise whatever little self control he has (which, btw, as someone pointed out, is an important trait of a HVM.)
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/22 03:52 PM
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You are just 26, you can start over. Your 8 year struggle to get him close to marriage is unusual. Now that you have learned from your mistakes, your next relationship will progress much faster towards your goal. My daughter (22yo) told me that she and her friends think the "talking stage" of a relationship should last no more than 3 months. If he doesn't formalize your relationship by then, it means he's not that into you. She asked her bf how long it takes a man to know he wants to be in a LTR…
/r/RedPillWomen26/12/22 04:56 AM
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You can stop hinting and go ask him out. Lol
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/22 03:14 PM
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It's internalized misogyny, this idea that domestic work is demeaning.
/r/RedPillWomen06/12/22 11:54 PM
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All the things you mentioned he asked you to do are things that average SAHM do. You can't compare yourself to your mom because she was the breadwinner, like your husband. If you are not happy being a SAHM, you should go look for a job.
/r/RedPillWomen06/12/22 10:38 PM
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He's into kinks that he knows you are not into and does not expect it from you. The sex you two have is vanilla sex for him. If you can accept that, you two can still have a beautiful future.
/r/RedPillWomen06/12/22 09:46 PM
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Hugs OP. Sending you internet strength to do the right thing for yourself.
/r/RedPillWomen02/12/22 02:25 PM
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What makes you think you deserve to be punished by this man? When you had all those sexual partners, you didn't even know him. It's not like you had sex with other people in order to hurt him. So why should you accept him punishing you? He couldn't accept 8, so he'll never accept 14. You know this right? He won't leave you until he must (eg. when he meet the low-count woman he wants to marry.) Right now he is enjoying abusing you without having to commit to you. So you can choose to continue to …
/r/RedPillWomen02/12/22 02:52 AM
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took you 2 months to come up with this? lmao edit: since you turned off reply , i had put it here lmao https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/ypz27v/comment/ixl26ay/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 02:35 PM
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Would it be better if he lied and said she's low value, He should have spent two seconds and think of something specific. "Perfect gf material" is lazy and is an insult. "Not ready for a relationship" is similar -- a generic and lazy cop out, not a thoughtful evaluation of the relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen23/11/22 07:33 PM
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"Perfect gf material" is an insult. Oh you are perfect... for people who have lower standards than me. Edit: It's an insult for one more reason -- it's such a LAZY faux-compliment. Like couldn't he have spent a few seconds to think of a less generic compliment for someone he says he considers a "friend"?
/r/RedPillWomen23/11/22 03:44 PM
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What a disaster of an immature and manipulative man. Idk why any woman would want to put up with that. Also he's not going to marry you. If he loses his job again, he might marry you, very reluctantly. Regardless of your marital status, if you stay with him, you can count on him to continue to date other women and to bully you.
/r/RedPillWomen19/11/22 04:56 PM
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An extremely insecure man who can't own up to his own mistakes is not a leader. He's overly emotional and throws tantrums... like a child. Those are low values in any person.
/r/RedPillWomen18/11/22 02:54 AM
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Wait, are you saying there are people who frown on souvenirs from the guest's home country? Who, what kind of people are you talking about?
/r/RedPillWomen17/11/22 04:07 PM
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I mean, at this rate, he'd be in his 50s by the time he has his own house... if he manages to keep steady employment even if it's min wage and continues to live in mom's basement rent free until he has enough down payment for a house.
/r/RedPillWomen17/11/22 01:32 AM
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Is this in a western society? Sounds like he doesn't want to be seen with you.
/r/RedPillWomen16/11/22 08:55 PM
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You have a one-dimensional understanding of people. Most people's personalities aren't just "I don't do casual sex" or "I want to be doctor/engineer/IB/etc." At your uni, if you open your mind, you'll notice you are surrounded by people who party and are on premed track, who drink and are honor engineering students, who have sex and volunteer 10hrs/wk at the local women's shelter, etc. If you can only be friends with people who are exactly like you, then yes, you'll continue to lead a boring lif…
/r/RedPillWomen14/11/22 04:55 PM
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Hey, my daughter (22 yo) likes to say "por que no los dos?" You don't have to choose... until you have to! For now, proceed with both paths. At some point in the future, the right path will become clear. A couple weeks ago, my daughter told me, in the same breath, her aspirations to shoot for the CEO position of her current company (a Fortune 25) as well as potentially quitting and becoming a SAHM on account of her bf's equity stake in a high profile pre-IPO company. I suggest that you proceed a…
/r/RedPillWomen14/11/22 05:02 AM
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I think you should tell him the truth. He thinks he is gaining something by saying stuff like that, so I would tell him that he isn't. So, maybe something like, "That really hurts my feelings. It makes me feel like I should also be scoping out other men because maybe I am not enough for you. But I don't want to because I want to be with you."
/r/RedPillWomen11/11/22 09:55 PM
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I start with very controlled grocery shopping. No sugary snacks or chips. If they are not in my environment, I can't snack on them. Don't go grocery shopping when you are hungry or you'll end up buying too much "bad" stuff. I also walk almost everyday. I only diet at home. When I go out on weekends, I order whatever I want and always get dessert. This is how I am able to stay on my diet long term.
/r/RedPillWomen10/11/22 05:56 PM
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If it's social stigma you are worried about, then just don't tell people. It's no one's business anyway. Besides, your future husband won't see it as a negative. If you feel that you might be "missing out", then just lose it. Doesn't have to be to your forever partner, just someone you kinda like and trust. There's no reason to make sex into such an overwhelmingly big deal. As far as "insipid" people, do you find women and men insipid in roughly equal proportions? If yes, you should try to expan…
/r/RedPillWomen10/11/22 04:19 PM
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Breaking up is hard. One day at a time. One day you'll suddenly realize you haven't thought about him for a whole week. Sending you internet strength OP.
/r/RedPillWomen06/11/22 04:07 PM
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I don't think your telling him something he already knows (it's your fault) is going to make him want to rekindle with you.
/r/RedPillWomen06/11/22 03:08 PM
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Because sex, without feelings, is not something I enjoy. So why not just tell him this next time he wants sex? Tell him your feelings for him aren't at that level yet. He needs to put in more work to get your feelings up to the level where you can love sex with him.
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/22 05:20 PM
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Well then Idk either. In any case, doesn't sound like he's willing to change anything.
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/22 07:04 PM
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Sounds like he thinks you have wife potential but he has no sexual passion for you, which doesn't seem to bother him. Have you guys had sex? Does he initiate sex with you?
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/22 05:47 PM
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He never saw you as his gf, just a regular friend. That's why he didn't make romantic efforts while you were together and now he continues to invite you out as if you didn't break up with him. If you stick around, he may eventually propose and marry you. But he'll likely never feel for you the way a man in love feels for his woman.
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/22 04:45 PM
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If you want bio children, then settling for your current bf seems to be your best bet. Dropping him and starting from scratch at 36 seems risky. Especially given your lack of success in the last 4 years in attracting men of your ex's caliber.
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/22 03:58 AM
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Same. Have a good day!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:24 PM
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Many women are so convinced that their status is THAT important to men, that finding out the truth is hilarious. Oh that's not what I was saying at all. What I mean is that a man's status is THAT important to a woman. For marriage, not for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:22 PM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:18 PM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:18 PM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:17 PM
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I suppose I’m forced to admit that these men must exist, assuming you have daughters via your husband and not adoption. Haha yes, they do exist. You'd be surprised how much "moral realism matters" come up in regular convo. My daughter's bf once sent out a dinner invitation worded something like "a gathering of beautiful minds... to reflect on...and contemplate.." But getting back to the OP, that's why it makes sense that most people prefer to marry within their own class.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:50 PM
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..and call yourself "successful"!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:26 PM
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A god damn headache to deal with, as apposed to the sweet Southern girl who served me coffee this morning. Exactly. You are the kind of "successful man" who values ^^ over intellectual and philosophical compatibility -- the bases for true companionship to share and grow with on the road of life. My daughters did not go to Ivy League colleges to end up being appreciated for their abilities to serve coffee. Lol different competitive set.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:24 PM
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"Women can get all benefits of a husband by just having sex with a guy... money, protection, company, etc." ^^ this is why you don't get it. Because ^^ is incorrect. When a man only wants you for sex, he is not giving you shit. Definitely no companionship (eg. when you need him), no "protection" (I don't know what that is). You get money only if you are a professional. Therefore, if a woman wants companionship and to give her love to someone, she needs commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:10 PM
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But if he is introduced to someone perceived as better then she will jump on it. Obviously. While I know you are obsessed with "hypergamy", it is not the topic under discussion based on the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:58 PM
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Yup, that's what I am saying -- the kind of "successful man" I want my girls to date would never consider someone who supports herself doing shift work at McD for more than a quickie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:54 PM
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If you are seriously dating an adult woman who supports herself working shifts at a MacDonalds (not corporate office, that is), then I am sure I wouldn't consider you the type "successful" I want my daughters to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:47 PM
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She may be dating a guy in her class right now but is yearning for better. And that is exactly what u/januaryphilosopher said -- that people date within their class. Idk why some people here insist on reading disagreement into agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:40 PM
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Oh I was specifically talking to OP. Of course it's not your fault that men don't compliment you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:56 AM
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No "issue'. She just told you that she solved the problem by simply never complimenting men. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:26 AM
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90%+ of compliments I receive are from women. So how is it not men's "fault" that they don't compliment each other the way women do each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:19 AM
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The way OP defines "love" works the same for all human beings -- you lose the initial excitement after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:23 AM
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Yea, happens to human beings, not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:59 PM
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Nah, it's a fair guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:53 PM
1

Good for you. Stay where you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:25 PM
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on strong for several centuries so atleast some of my ancestors have to have gotten laid. Lol a culture that is stuck in time. I am sure the women in your culture appreciate your incel ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:56 PM
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Men on this sub vehemently disagree with me, but I blame video games. I have two young adult daughters (22 and 19). I saw their boy classmates, through middle and high school, fold and retreat to the comfort of video games at the first rejection by a girl. Sometimes, a vicarious rejection (of a friend) was all it took. I can't tell you how many boys from my daughters' classes decided to play video games instead of going to the prom. I used to feel bad for the girls because it was so hard to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:52 PM
1

Again, are you an incel? Because roommate rules aren't the same as relationship rules. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:40 PM
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The macro level is too hard to predict. Right now in the US women are losing their rights. Abortion is gone, next will be birth control. Next may be doing away with the concept of marital rape or even acquaintance rape (like in some muslim countries). Coupled with fewer social services for children and women, we could be going back to the olden days where women were entirely dependent on their husbands and kept on having babies. So maybe it's too premature to worry about declining birth rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:19 AM
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As a woman, I agree with you 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:29 AM
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I wouldn't worry about it on a macro level. Fewer humans isn't necessarily bad for the planet anyway. On a micro level, well, I guess your only option is to play the game. You need to make sure you are among the 50% or 70% of men who get to date women. The way to do that is to improve yourself. The worst thing you can do is to disqualify yourself by becoming a woman-hater. This seems obvious, but incels here have trouble understanding -- most people don't want to date people who hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:24 AM
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if anything the average woman sees me as below her. That's exactly what I am saying! The "average woman" has judged what you have to offer as "below her". Therefore, if you want to be in a relationship with a woman, you need to lower your standards and date below average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:17 AM
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what makes you think me and other men in my situation have high standards ? Because you are not in relationship. According to you, most women are in relationships with men. Therefore, something must be keeping you from being part of "most men" who date "most women". And people are guessing that it's because your standards are too high, relative to what you have to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 01:27 AM
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LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:27 PM
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A man who hires prostitutes isn't automatically disqualified by most women as a potential husband. A woman who was a prostitute is automatically disqualified by most men as a potential wife. Sexism, plain and simple. To quote you, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:31 PM
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I say more "strategic ambiguity" and less muscle mass adding! Everyone is ambiguous, strategic or not, because no one knows if they want a LTR until they realize they've met the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:36 AM
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But we’ve been home probably less than half of the last year. Doesn't your 13 yo have school? Children really thrive on routines. I can't imagine how stressful your life is. Is it possible for your husband to travel on his own for a while? Does his job always involve so much traveling with people he has to please or is this a once in a while thing? I am also trying to picture you with your baby and toddlers trying to "entertain" your husband's colleagues and their wives while on a spontaneous ou…
/r/RedPillWomen30/10/22 02:37 PM
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Really? What does your girlfriend or wife say about this pov?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:32 AM
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I don't understand it either. Just read another one on pdd that I also did not understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:23 AM
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Yup that's why a self-respecting man should never marry a woman (aka a leech).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:05 PM
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She made sure we knew that, too. This is not right... no child should ever know that.
/r/RedPillWomen28/10/22 10:52 PM
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I feel like each child deserves the best care we can give them. So, for me, I'd only have however many I can afford in terms of money, time and effort. I was a SAHM and I still just had two. I've enjoyed every second of motherhood. Still do, even though they are young adults now. I actually admire the women who are self-aware enough to know they don't want to be mothers. I never understood why people accuse them of being "selfish". I think true selfish are the people who bring children to the wo…
/r/RedPillWomen28/10/22 06:56 PM
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But what really baffles me is that there are so many resources for men to become more desirable to women. ^^ is what makes me lose sympathy for the incels here. Like man, do something to help yourself! This whole "women-hater" personality is not helping you get what you want!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:14 PM
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My daughter (22yo) recently asked me for advice regarding the same issue you brought up here. Her bf of 8 months told her that her being so "low maintenance" is freaking him out and that he'd like to do more for her. I told her to not fight him on this and learn to be an appreciative and enthusiastic receiver of favors and gifts. If he wants to send her flowers for no reason, let him (she thinks it's wasteful), if he wants to drive her to work/school, let him (she prefers to walk), if he wants t…
/r/RedPillWomen28/10/22 04:31 PM
5

what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:54 PM
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Honestly, you don't have to worry about a "gotcha" unless you are a HVM. Unplanned babies destroy an avg woman's life way more than it does a LVM's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:49 PM
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i call people out for talking shit all the damned time, the fuck are you going on about? Then do that. No need for the faux politeness of "oh sorryyy do you think it's appropriate or not that they blah blah blah" Fucking FAKE
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:35 AM
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https://www.britannica.com/topic/prostitution But who cares? I like that you are calling all the incels here "prostitutes"!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:12 AM
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just not for a particular group of people You mean men? Or a subset of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:49 AM
4

Oh good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:48 AM
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Nah, just you girl. But don't fret, it's ok to die a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:37 AM
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Really? So all the incels here who whine about women not giving them casual sex are just prostitutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:28 AM
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Women don't give a shit about sex. Clearly not with you. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:20 AM
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Sure, if you are already having so much success, why bother with a bio?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:05 AM
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So what are you going to do about it if you don't think it's appropriate?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:01 AM
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When you are "real and thoughtful and tried to build a real connection", you show the real you, which is women "...make me sick... fragile...flimsy...rooted in a childlike dreamworld... so self blatantly disgusting in it's drive to FUCK abstract "value"...terrible" Oh and what you call "concrete respect" is what I call "bragging about stupid things" like "my dick is 0.001 inch longer than yours. I WIN" In other words, losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:53 PM
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Yea no, the average man knows what he's up against, If anything, most men overestimate the challenges he faces in the dating market. You underestimate your gender. AND overestimate your own intellect. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:39 PM
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You cheat, it's your fault, you pay. With fault-divorce, she either gets to keep her husband or she gets a bigger divorce settlement. A win-win for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:59 PM
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I didn't read your long OP but just wanted to let you know that I myself enjoy porn (though I am not an addict).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:05 PM
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Bring on the fault-divorce! I almost killed myself trying to lose the 65lbs I gained after each pregnancy. If it were 'fault-divorce", I'd have stayed fat and happy. Also, maybe I would have quit my job after my first baby... my husband made enough for our lifestyle, but because I made twice as much as him at that point, it would have been hard to quit... I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:03 PM
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Women will feel free to stay fat after giving birth because their husbands won't dare to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 03:52 PM
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What makes you think that you are going to find an abundance of virgins in libraries and animal shelters? A lot of animal lovers love people and love to touch them too, including men. And libraries? These days I see mostly old people, moms and her kids, and homeless people in public libraries. You want girls? Then you need to go to university libraries... but then they aren't mostly virgins you know. Religious places, yes. But what are you going to do? Convert and attend church regularly so you …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 01:12 PM
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Oh I wasn't comparing to beer bellies. I like soccer players level of muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 03:39 AM
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To me, soccer players have the perfect bodies. Swimmers hit the upper limit of what I consider very attractive. Football players and wrestlers are too muscular, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 03:38 AM
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I don't like bodies that are too bulky/muscular. I like men who are intellectual, curious, and have a sense of adventure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 10:24 PM
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Excellent summary of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 12:54 PM
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Oh it's not about the lying. Lol she doesn't care. Lots of men shorter than 6' and girls taller than 5'8" fudge their height. She's 5'7 plus 2-3" heels, so as long as she can be eye-level with him, that's all she cares about height-wise. And that's why you and your friend are both right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:52 PM
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she won’t know the difference between 5’10”-6’ You'd be surprised. Many women who played a sport in high school can tell. And if they are not sure, they find a way to know because it's important to them. My daughter and her roommates stick pictures on their fridge at different height. The men who come to pick them up for dates walk past the fridge and that's how they know for sure. Edit: re. your OP, you are both right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 06:52 PM
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Idk about race... it's not exclusive to women. Asian men is the equivalent of black women according to dating data. Definitely age, because it affect men and women so differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:18 PM
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Ding ding ding
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:15 PM
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No. N count, you do it to yourself. 100% under your control. A man can't control his own height.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:15 PM
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I think there's a limit to the percentage of men who won't find partners. At the end of the day, the majority of women still want to be with a man. But I do agree that YMS is not an existential threat to society anymore because, as you said, technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:06 AM
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So you also agree that medical technology should be withheld from women and babies then. OP doesn't have to agree that withholding medical help is the way to go, but he can certainly believe that the same "natural forces" are at work here. Just like I can (and do) acknowledge OP's point re. natural selection without believing that 2/3 of men deserve to be forever alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:17 PM
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force change on women ^^^ learn to read full sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:09 PM
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Yea I think OP is just not knowledgeable and too lazy to actually read up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:37 PM
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The quality of their long term partners/husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:34 PM
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"Annoying" is definitely feedback. Lazy feedback, but feedback nonetheless.
/r/RedPillWomen24/10/22 03:16 PM
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But sitting in your basement, blaming and hating women will. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:11 PM
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It's hard to hide your misogyny when you think the solution to your involuntary celibacy is to force change on women instead of changing yourself. I don't think OP is talking about people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:19 PM
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You are just a normal guy. Incels are the ones who hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:03 PM
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what's a ballcell?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:00 PM
1

Well duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:20 PM
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Yea tell that to all the incels who get aggressive with rude women but not with rude normal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:40 PM
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"Men accounted for 80.4 percent of persons arrested for violent crime and 62.9 percent of those arrested for property crime." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States \<sup>\</sup>^ this is my point -- order of magnitude difference: perps are men in 80% of times a violent crime is committed. Therefore, women do have a logical reason to fear men (getting back to your comment which I responded to). Physically weak men (like most incels here) also have a reason to fear strong men, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:03 PM
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Yea I'd feel the same way as you if I were a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:19 PM
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Huh? Idk what you are saying. But no, I am not thinking about shooting, dying and first aid and bleeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:17 PM
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yet the number of recorded assaults are actually much higher in men than women. Yup men assault. Men assault men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:13 PM
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which means that they don't get a pass on this one. How would women "not get a pass on this one" manifest itself irl? Like do you think men will now feel justified to behave even more aggressively towards random rude women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 05:13 PM
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You literally used an anecdote to try to prove your point. Lol I think OP forgot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:17 PM
2

Yea ok. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:13 PM
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But why can't it be that women are so rude on average, that men perceive anything other than rudeness as a sign of interest? So? The end result is the same -- those naturally friendly women quickly learn they need to be ruder if they don't want to be approached for sex constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:12 PM
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I wouldn't care if most gay men wanted to have sex with me You are speaking out of inexperience -- you've never lived this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:09 PM
2

Wow I didn't know OP was a man. Lol that seems pretty obvious.
/r/RedPillWomen23/10/22 04:01 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/y8en7y/have_you_ever_turned_a_woman_down_for_her_body/it0s8x4/?context=3 Not sure I am doing this right, but the poster is h1shman or something like it. do you know why was this thread removed?
/r/RedPillWomen23/10/22 03:34 PM
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I think studies have shown a correlation between promiscuity and divorce, for both women and men. I always thought that women with high body count could just lie, if asked. But at another sub recently, someone posted a list of signs that indicate high body count in women. I have to say, his list was pretty accurate for the few high count women I know irl. So, if a man cares about body count and he can recognize the signs, he could choose to stay away from women with high count. Or not get into a…
/r/RedPillWomen22/10/22 09:24 PM
2

Not sure why you’re so hysterical over a difference in opinion lol. Huh? Who's hysterical? "a difference in opinion"? I feel like I am agreeing with you... wrong thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 06:30 PM
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Your daughter’s boyfriend sounds controlling to me. You mean like the 48% of the men in the study OP posted? I mean I guess it's possible that men who want to pay are more controlling, but I haven't seen any data on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:59 PM
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I wouldn't have believed this a couple weeks ago, but now I think there's more truth to it than I thought. Last week my daughter (22yo) called me for advice. She was telling her bf of 8 months that she did not think it was right that the woman her guy friend was dating expected the guy to pay for everything. Long story short, daughter's bf told her that daughter being so "low maintenance" freaks him out and she needs to let him do/pay more for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:58 PM
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If your idea of relationship is "smashing", then you are right, the psychologist is full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:41 PM
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It's not immaturity, it's a legit problem. Raising children is a HUGE responsibility. Raising children who are not only not yours biologically, but could also disappear from your life if you don't end up with their mom, is an even a bigger problem that plenty of mature and logical men/women choose not to take on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:25 PM
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Some are. But many more are victims of their own refusal to accept that women think differently than men. Hence the difference OP noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:54 PM
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Incels here believe that unless you have "looks and six pack", you aren't getting any woman. And that's why they are incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:44 AM
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thanks didn't know... made an edit to my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:13 PM
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thanks didn't know... made an edit to my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:12 PM
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She invested everything she had in a start-up (ambitious, penniless upper-middle class and ugly Jeff). She deserves whatever her share of the start-up is worth today -- 25 years after she put everything she had (her person) into it. If her start-up crashed and burned, she gets nothing. If her start-up became Amazon, then she gets her share because she picked the right start-up. The financial risk she took 25 years ago paid off. Edit: lol didn't know Jeff was already successful when he married he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:18 PM
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maybe they are pros?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 04:09 AM
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I know a girl who hits all of these! And she had high body count, even as a high schooler. The last one about gratitude -- wasn't expecting that, but right on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:29 AM
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Unfortunately guys always thought I was making fun of them and got mad at me. Someone else on here said the same thing... unfortunately, incels can be very defensive, they find it hard to believe that a woman can actually be interested in them. I kinda understand... they've been hurt and now they expect the worst from people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:18 AM
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It's not BS, it's just that you were never a true incel. Your new girl found you at a friend's party. Parties are one of the places incels need to be at if they want to be approached by women. Congrats on breaking your dry spell, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:06 PM
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I know!! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:46 PM
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Yea supermarkets are not where a woman goes to make that first movie on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:01 PM
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Ok but you know that's not true right? I have two young adult daughters and they both do some direct approaching. Seems fine, I don't think they get shamed. They live in big cities in NE US.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:06 PM
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Women are told not to approach or else she’ll look desperate. Really? Maybe it depends on where you were raised
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:38 PM
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Lol very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:32 PM
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Good point! Incels are indeed hard to find irl!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:28 PM
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Yea if you are someone with a lot of options then it's definitely not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:07 PM
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You make a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:05 PM
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I was responding to your one comment. Lol I don't, actually never, go looking for a person's comment history before responding. But ok looks like we agree then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:05 PM
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Intro: Hey girl, what moral philosophy do you align yourself to Instantly unmatched. You assume or you've actually tried? I'd say if you tried that 100 times, you'd get at least a few responses. I am old, but I think my younger daughter might respond to something like this if she were on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:01 PM
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Exactly. 6 is literally above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:56 PM
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No. A woman's ability to bring in the bacon may not be the first thing on a man's list, but it is definitely not the last... unless you are a teenager who's not yet aware of how difficult it can be to make a consistent and comfortable living on one income.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:54 PM
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I do! I trust you! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:02 PM
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"Every woman has experienced the phenomena of finding a man physically unattractive at first and then suddenly finding him attractive once they get to know the guy and their perception changes. It’s not just that the guy’s personality overcomes his looks. It’s that their physical attractiveness quite literally changes in the woman’s eyes." Yup, happened to me and many women I know irl. Many incels here think this is urban legend though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:01 PM
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A man who sleeps with 100 2/10s is far less impressive than one that sleeps with 1 10/10. A woman who keeps a 10/10 man is more impressive than someone who kept a 2/10 one. I agree. But I guess a man would say that they don't care, they want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:54 AM
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You do you. Don't date women who are interested in knowing you better before having sex with you. Other men will. Don't fret.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:50 AM
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"I'm not from the area but I'm considering moving here." Or "I'm not ready for something serious right now." To me, these are very clear statements that he is not interested in a relationship. If a woman wants to be optimistic, that's her right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:07 AM
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The incel who didn't want to be "trapped" into telling the truth said that he's not implying that men should lie. So he is morally upstanding incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:01 AM
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Idk OP... are you ugly? have no social skill? poor? have no friends? bad hygiene? 4'10"? no job? live in your mom's basement? It's hard to diagnose why you are being rejected even by post-wall chicks without more info.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:55 PM
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Absolutely. That's why I tell my daughters to avoid men with high body count. It also predicts cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:38 PM
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If you gone-girl him, you make him the victim, especially since you've been married for 3 years. At least leave him a short note. "I left because I see you've started dating Z. You'll be hearing from my divorce lawyer."
/r/RedPillWomen18/10/22 06:10 PM
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I wasn't sexually interested on him yet, but that's why I wanted to spend some time together to see if I'd find him so. This is the problem. Men want sex now. The incel-ish men here don't want to put in the work to get to know you but it's your fault for not wanting sex right away. And that's why women like you are downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:38 PM
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You and me both.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:20 PM
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Why do women expect men to look past mutable traits that you can actually CONTROL, like weight and body count, and call men misogynistic for not doing so? Weight and body count are in different categories. Weight is a fair criticism. Men not wanting to date fat women is not misogynist because they hold the same distaste in fat men. Body count, on the other hand, is classic misogyny (prejudice against women). For the same count, you are a slut if you are a woman, a stud if you are a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:26 PM
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yea you do you incel self. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:57 PM
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oh ok I am not an expert on manosphere. For me, a man candy without the ability to do his share of providing is basically worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:18 AM
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I never argued women are affected mote than men. Then you are on the wrong thread. OP's point is that, in the future, women will be poorer than they are now, relative to men. People on this thread are debating which, if any, forces will affect women more than men, to such degree that women will become poorer than they are now, relative to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:14 AM
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well, like OP said, we just ignore them. But yea, if you feel so strongly about it, you go and put them away. Lol you go girl!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:06 AM
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Idk... this is such an incel thing to do... a total overreaction. I just don't see a problem to letting them incels roam around free...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:01 PM
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Bwahahahah..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:53 PM
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Would solve the problem What problem? I live in the US, as a woman, with a long, happy marriage to a wonderful man. I don't see a "problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:53 PM
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Yea me neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:46 PM
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Oh I didn't realize that a Chad is not a provider! Just a pretty boy then. If so then, yes, I am not interest in Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:45 PM
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Like I said, it's not the material, it's the person I am not interest in. Lol My profile is miserable? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:41 PM
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If you think that discussing the academic literature on womens financial behavior is “hating women” No I am saying that I don't care to discuss it with an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:40 PM
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Huh? Wrong thread? Wait, are you responding as an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:39 PM
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We have different definition then. To me -- no money/career, not a Chad. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:36 PM
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I’m saying that OP’s argument actually is somewhat in line with the relevant literature I responded already in the first post to you. That's all I care to say, as I do not care for "literature" on incelogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:35 PM
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Only to men who are unable to hide the fact that they hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:33 PM
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Very true. Agreed. Poor incels...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:16 PM
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I don’t think women are necessarily less “logical” or more “frivolous” than men This tells me that you are not stupid. Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:10 PM
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I’ll start this response by saying that this is just my speculation/opinion, ok, if you had said that from the start, we wouldn't have to be writing back and forth. I am not really interested in speculating the future. Too many factors, like climate change, come into play that I don't have deep knowledge on. I simply responded to the obvious mistake in analysis I saw in OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:09 PM
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Wouldn't that imply you are wasting his time and leading him on? Huh? I'd be equally honest with him of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:03 PM
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You are right, there are plenty of women who will take an women-hating incel (or faux-incel. I am not a scholar in the incelogy. I just feel the hate). It's like there are 30% of men who are not getting sex, so it's not so hard to imagine that there are also something like X% of women who want or need the protection provided by incels. And even a small percentage is a huge number irl. I am really just thinking from the pov of women in my life Ig.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:02 PM
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Agreed. But looks like OP's example is that of a Chad who has not trouble finding sexual partners and that's also why he is so honest about it. Billy, as you said, would be more likely to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:53 PM
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Yes, I would have more respect for him for not wasting my time. And I would immediately cut him off as a sexual partner. But if he proves to be entertaining in non sexual ways and we hit it off, I can definitely be friends with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:50 PM
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Again, if you are going to say that "lifestyle creep" will potentially make women poor in the future, you need to show data that it affects women more than men. Idk but your analytical skills are really astounding if you are telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:45 PM
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In the US, a woman can divorce her husband without abandoning her children. Edit: Idk where you live but, you are correct, in some countries, like North Korea, that's not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:33 PM
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Over 70% of men aged 18-24 are having sex. And the other 30% are here, hating on women, not realizing that as soon as they fall prey to incel-ogy, they've condemned themselves to a lifetime of celibacy/loneliness. Like what woman wants to be with a women-hating man? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:27 PM
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Sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:54 PM
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While I get what you are saying, "lifestyle creep" is not a women-only problem and therefore, has zero effect on a women's wealth relative to that of men. Are you a student? Think about taking an econ or stat or financial analysis class.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:21 PM
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show me data that this affects women more than men again, data. "Is that (DEI) enough?" Is a better job and income enough to keep women at the same level of poverty/wealth at they are now? What do you think? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:21 PM
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OP's post, is as pointed out by another poster, yet another "revenge fantasy" so many of the women-hating men here indulge in. Always the same -- I am having trouble getting dates, this means the future of humanity is at risk. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:26 AM
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Will it make them “poor”? No. This is not a new spending trend. Women have been spending more v men since as far as you can remember. So, women will be as poor/wealthy in the future as they are now because their spending habits have not changed. One thing that is new is all the DEI efforts by Fortune 500 companies. So, women are/will be hired and promoted at a rate closer to that of men. This also means that women will be making closer to what men make at the same job level. So even if they cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:22 AM
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I think being arrested for reporting domestic violence to the police is pretty repressive. Where? Data? I don't accept your strong feelings as facts. Lol Also, no, not repressive in the big scheme of "repression". Read up on what they do to women in Iran and Saudi Arabia.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:04 AM
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Yes but that's for us, people who are normal and don't live in repressive regimes like Iran or Saudi Arabia.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:56 AM
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No, you shouldn't at all since you live in Iran or Saudi Arabia. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:48 AM
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No, reason to trust gov. stats, especially when they contradict with your own strong feelings. You are right, men are more likely than women to be victims of domestic violence. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:37 AM
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This is big generalizing, but I think men tend to be more generous, both in spirit and in money, than women. They say what they mean and are more earnest. They fall in love faster and deeper. They are protective and very helpful to strangers. *applies only to non-incel men. "Hate women" is the single most unattractive quality a man can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:28 AM
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What? Are you a teenager? How do you not know that IQ affects EVERYTHING we do??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:54 AM
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That's what I read too. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:38 AM
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Huh? Wrong thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:36 AM
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so I guess women can treat all men badly, but men can't do the same? Don't fret, men do the same and worse to women ALL the time. Just look at who commit domestic violence crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 10:32 PM
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this woman thought we were asking to buy drugs. so obviously women ignore people to the point where they wouldn't know what these guys were saying or doing. Yes, that happens. This is because most victims of sexual crimes are women, so we've been taught since early age to be careful of random men approaching us.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:33 PM
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Good luck OP. You'll definitely have more of a community in a university.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:27 PM
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Some of us would like to get women who are actually into us There you go -- that's your answer. That's why average men continue to approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:25 PM
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But she did answer your question! You ask why would you approach a woman and she said you don't have to if you want to die celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:21 PM
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OP, since you don't have difficulty talking to women, why don't you just ask your women friends in your college? That'd be more accurate than social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:17 PM
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So? I don't ignore people who ask me for directions either. Edit: again, that's not what OP is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:07 PM
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but then if he pushes for sex, there’s a lot of pressure for her not to be a “prude” and reject someone she idolizes. An adult has to the responsibility to protect herself. She is free to regret a bad decision of course, but that doesn't take away her own responsibility for making that bad decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:25 PM
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OP, don't fret, women don't have lower IQ than men, so they will adjust accordingly whatever the future brings. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:09 PM
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Ok different topic. OP is not talking about some kind man alerting her to her dropped item.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:02 PM
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Any response is usually taken as an encouragement to continue to talk. That's why most women choose to ignore completely. But again, do you also feel entitled to a random man's attention as you would your dad's? Or do you only expect attention from female strangers, not your mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:29 PM
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So... what's the "negative effects" you mentioned in the title of your post?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:14 PM
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But that's what OP is talking about -- men who act on their aggression -- but only on women, because they know they can get away with it. They wouldn't act on their anger with other men because they risk getting into a physical situation. We are calling out the cowards who act out on women, but are too scared to act out men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:03 PM
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I agree with you, OP. But good luck trying to explain "internalized misogyny" to any woman, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:33 PM
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Just flip it around. Imagine you approached anyone (man or women) greeted them and they just straight faced ignored you. Imagine you approached a man and he ignores you. Is your next step to get angry and call him a cow or a bitch?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:15 PM
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But how is this relevant? OP or a random woman on the street is not your mom who owes you her attention, no? Or do you mean that you feel entitled to the attention of any woman? And do you feel the same with random men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:03 PM
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Is there any data that shows that HVM cheats more than LVM? Or is this just another attempt to shame/discourage female hypergamy? I've only seen data that shows correlation between promiscuity and cheating, for both men and women alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:23 PM
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ok I like your advice. But, what does OP do if her husband wants to have date with other women but stay married to her? Should she say yes for the short term or should she just divorce him?
/r/RedPillWomen15/10/22 10:49 PM
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Yea no easy solution. I really feel for young people who are dating. Someone posted a video here about the disappearance of "third places" -- community places that are not the home of either person where people meet by chance in low pressure situation -- as a contributing cause of more people remaining single today.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:43 PM
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yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:34 PM
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that they prefer older men How much older?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:15 PM
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Tbh your work schedule doesn't sound all that impossible. But if you are feeling so much mental exhaustion that it keeps you from going out even on weekends, then maybe you have low level depression? There are a lot of meds out there and are very well tolerated by most people, if you are interested. Your point regarding making a certain amount of money makes a lot of instinctive sense to me, especially for men. But idk if there's research re this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:57 PM
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Yup, that's yet one more reason why women leave online dating -- the constant ghosting by men. So it's possible that women have lower tolerance than men for ghosting and rejections.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:02 PM
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Mostly wrong, OP. Women in general have stronger relationships with their families and friends. So even if they stay single, they still have stronger social network than men. Single women find fulfillment in volunteering to help others and enjoy being the "cool aunt" to their nieces and nephews. They also tend to take better care of themselves in terms of health. Women are natural care takers (not all women, but more women than men).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:00 PM
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Agree with you OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:54 PM
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Because they get dick pics and harassment. From a women-hating man's pov, being rejected for aggressive sexual messages is the woman having standards that are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:52 PM
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There are more things a woman can do to "upgrade" her attractiveness (make up, fashion, cosmetic surgeries, hair, etc.) So, after spending all that effort in upgrading herself, it is understandable that she wants to shoot for above avg men. But I personally find men more naturally attractive than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:28 PM
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Same, OP. I've never met anyone like the women-hating PPD men irl. I've been happily married for almost 30 years and have two young adult daughters who've been dating steadily since high school. But yea, none of the young men I've met through my daughters and their friends hate women. They all seem to be "sane", to use your term.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:34 AM
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" should these people be restricted to dating those who are equally as mentally undeveloped as them? Ridiculous." I think this happens naturally irl. Whether it's income, physical beauty, IQ, or age, people do tend to marry partners of approximate level as themselves. Exceptions exist of course, but not enough to be an issue (besides, I agree with you, power imbalance isn't really an issue in and of itself, as long as everyone is a consenting adult.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:34 PM
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You are too prideful to acknowledge there are plenty of evidence to support my understanding of promiscuity for PDD virgin-loving men. You don't argue to understand, you argue to win. This is a character flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:55 AM
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Such bad faith arguing. As if you don't already have plenty of evidence of double standards in the definition of promiscuity right here on PPD in just the last week.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:46 AM
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But dear, who died and made you OP's defender? Or is he a virgin you are trying to bed? I am going to show OP the respect you are not showing him and let him speak for himself. I wouldn't want to equivocate you know. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:40 AM
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And you are not OP. Edit: Dear Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:21 AM
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If you think OP's opinion represents what I referred to as "plenty of men here", then you can go ask him yourself. Btw, your attempt to separate a word from the context in which it is used and to define a point in its narrowest are bush league tactics, not deserving of someone who uses "equivocate" Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:08 AM
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I agree with you. They should both be called promiscuous. If you read the MANY posts from men here on PPD who want virgins, you'd know they think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:55 AM
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No, the word is not the problem it is your perception of a different standard of application from the person. So you're calling someone a misogynist because you think they are a misogynist because you expect misogyny. You are either new here or you are arguing to win. If you are arguing in good faith, you'd know that plenty of men here have different standards for promiscuity for women v men. "Equivocate" ... I see what you are doing here... sorry not impressed Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:49 AM
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Really? This is what I responded to the other man and it works for you as well: Ooooo but there's plenty of moral judgement that goes into the word "promiscuous" considering how the number that makes a woman "promiscuous" does not make a man so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:37 AM
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Promiscuous is a neutral term that relates to one's number of sexual partners. Ooooo but there's plenty of moral judgement that goes into the word "promiscuous" considering how the number that makes a woman "promiscuous" does not make a man so. Also what does "One shouldn't equivocate to such a degree." mean? You didn't answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:35 AM
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One shouldn't equivocate to such a degree. What does this mean? Those are words I've read here on PPD by men who want virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:09 AM
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Good. Stay virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:03 AM
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sorry to hear.
/r/RedPillWomen13/10/22 09:01 AM
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Why are you so offended women call you misogynist when you call them promiscuous/used/dirty/etc.? Why so precious?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:57 AM
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I think people confuse alimony with child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:43 AM
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Times haven't changed as much as you think they have. I mean, I grew up in the 70s and they were definitely VERY different than the early 2000s.
/r/RedPillWomen13/10/22 07:40 AM
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This would definitely have been a workable idea back in the olden days when I was growing up. By the time my kids were growing up (early 2000s), you would not dare to insinuate to anyone that maybe they should consider telling their kids to calm down. Some locations are worse than others. I was raising my kids in a upper middle class, progressive suburb of NYC, so that didn't help. But if OP lives in a small town and considers the other mom as her own sister (ie. they fight and they make up cons…
/r/RedPillWomen13/10/22 03:19 AM
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My apologies then.
/r/RedPillWomen13/10/22 03:08 AM
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Only because OP is the wife. But maybe I am wrong.
/r/RedPillWomen12/10/22 10:13 PM
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Re read the thread. I am shaming a virgin-lover. I have no idea if OP is or isn't a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:12 PM
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Soon your babies will be toddlers and they'll start fighting with each other. Your mama bear instincts will kick in and you'll start fighting with the other mom. Then you'll both try to get your own husbands involved. Soon the husbands will be forced to abandon their special and deep friendship due to this foolhardy adventure dreamed up by their wives. The end.
/r/RedPillWomen12/10/22 10:00 PM
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Exercise your power and refuse to date women. Boom! Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:06 PM
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Yup you are right. But I guess if watching women being humiliated keeps some incels from going on a shooting rampage, it's ok-ish? Although I also wonder if being in an echo chamber of incels actually encourage them to be violent towards women irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:57 PM
1

if you think its okay for you to shame who you want, then you think its alrigth for anyone to shame anyone. Yes, indeed. Each individual is responsible for their own acts and the consequences of their acts. Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:37 PM
10

Good. Don't touch women irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:35 PM
5

is murder objectively unfair to the victim yes or no? LMAO!!! I can't...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:34 PM
1

"no one" = "DaoMark" Lol SOOO angry Lol Edit: no one cares what little "dao" thinks. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:24 AM
12

Who died and made you God? Let her future husband decide for himself if her past is fair or unfair to him! Sheesh, are you 15?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:57 AM
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Since "virtually all woman at some point at least when they were younger" engaged in casual sex, so "Why should any sane man take a woman who behaves in a way that is unfair to men"? Great question, OP. Which is why the end of humanity is near. Lol Plus, also why you are not dating. At least not women, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:52 AM
5

Yea I didn't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:40 AM
3

You need to improve your reading comprehension. I am fine with deciding for myself who I want or don't want to shame. Idc if they are named or nameless. And YOU are the one who wants to shame gay people. Edit: Yes, I have zero empathy for men who value virginity in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:01 AM
4

I feel like so many men on PDD would say stuff like that. The men who insist that women's body count is of paramount importance, that all women are evil, that it should be illegal for women (not men) to cheat, etc. For some crazy reason these men think that they'd have more success if they let women know how much they hate women. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:28 AM
2

So you've been successful using "just ask" as your bio?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:21 AM
3

YOU do it since it's YOUR cause! Lol, expecting others to do YOUR dirty job... grow up!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:06 AM
1

Surprisingly sometimes you just need to ask and they will tell you. Yup, I don't lie about my body count if the man who's asking is one I am not interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:11 PM
1

You are the type of "desperate and insecure men" OP is referring to in the sentence I quoted from the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:08 PM
2

Lol as if I don't already...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:07 PM
1

who post and talk about it being okay to value ideals when the primary reason they cling to them reeks of desperation and insecurity. You. Lol good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:30 PM
1

What country do you live in? Also, how would you know about her body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:28 PM
4

people should be = allowed to have their preferences without being shamed. I'll shame whoever I want. Oh, and have sex with whoever I want and however many I want. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:25 PM
1

The older you get, the more confident you become in what you want. ... as your assets diminish in value. Lol but you are right, that's how some attractive women end up partner-less.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:46 PM
1

I don't think we're talking about men who are set apart by their careers here No career, not a Chad. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:44 PM
2

There's no info about KEY chad stat -- income and job. Instead there's tattoos...???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:43 PM
4

tattoos, gym rat These are chad requirements? Also, you forgot to include income and job title/company.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:40 PM
9

Are you saying that older women are more forgiving of your subpar personality because these women are running out of time and options? I think that makes perfect sense, OP. Older women are running out of time (for babies) so they settle for the dented cans like yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:46 AM
2

Unfortunately it's like 80% genetics for a woman. Unlike an unattractive man, an unattractive woman has basically no options. No amount of education, income, intelligence, etc. will make up for her lack of physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:05 PM
-1

I wanna know just exactly how men make it harder than it needs to be. By seeing all women as evil, as the enemy. And all the self-defeating things you say and do as a result of such attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:14 PM
1

Very well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:59 PM
3

My 22yo daughter tells me that she and her girlfriends feel that, generally speaking, women decide when to go from dating to sex and men decide when to take a situationship to a gf/bf relationship. So that's where men have power/advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:26 PM
1

6'2 is perfect. Anything above 6'4 just makes you look like you are always hovering (or maybe they are just hunched over) , not too mention so inconvenient. You hit your head on doorways in countries where people are shorter, you are extremely uncomfortable flying and in smaller cars, beds don't fit, your boss might resent you just for being tall, you can't get away with shit because people always remember the tall guy did it, etc. Idk why these guys are so proud but I don't think irl giants fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:00 PM
-2

Because men like you come here and post stuff like your OP, asking for challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:20 AM
3

No one cares who you want to date or not date. Just don't come here to try to justify your preferences with some sort of moral-ish reason because when you do that, people respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:42 AM
1

I’m continually baffled by women’s instance that this is some kind of display of “fragile” or “toxic masculinity”. Wait I didn't know OP was female! u/Worth_Student Ok then, what's your theory then? I am here to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:44 AM
1

This is sad and is what I would have guessed based on what I see irl. I think your A) is a big part of it. It's not necessarily that men don't have good friends, I think men just don't really talk to each other the way women do. It's hard to open up with their friends like that when they've never done it before. Idk what's the solution but we really need to encourage men to seek help.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:03 AM
1

Hidden score Lol of course. Anyway, your failure with women is still not a existential crisis for humanity. But I am cutting you off now. Bye good luck with women. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:50 PM
1

"I have a feeling women of PPD are so apathetic to men’s suffering that they will not propose any meaningful changes that involve women having to change behaviors/cultural-norms." \^\^ You've clearly already made up your mind that PDD women have nothing to offer. This is a trolling question. Not a trolling question, you say? Ok, how about this one tip -- don't send dick pics. Oh wait, lemme rephrase that -- women, start liking dick pics! That's how we can show OP that we are not "apathetic to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:39 PM
0

Indeed. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:33 PM
0

In short your failure with women is not an existential crisis for humanity. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:40 AM
1

I understand that it is IMPOSSIBLE that your personal failure with women will cause the end of humanity. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:05 AM
0

No need to apologize. I forgive you. All the same, your personal failure does not constitute an existential crisis for humanity. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:52 AM
0

Yea nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:34 AM
3

Great we disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:33 AM
2

"whenever I’m on another anonymous app, if the post even slightly hints that I’m a female, I’m immediately sent an unreasonable amount of dick pics." Men, has the "dick pics strategy" helped you get into relationships with women? This is definitely new for this generation. Back in the day, you'd have to send your dick pic through the USPS. Lmao but I think that's actually a federal crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:54 PM
5

Covid made it worse, for sure. But the issues started with widespread video games. The first time a boy gets rejected by a girl, he retreats to the comfort of video games. In past generations, this same boy would have gotten upset, learned from his experience and tried again soon after. He'd have grown up to be an avg man who knows how to talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:40 PM
0

I’m sorry you don’t understand demography Lmao. Your personal failure to find dates is an issue for HUMANITY. Bwahahah... I can't....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:41 PM
1

I like to CONFIRM you. You are most welcome. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:38 PM
0

There are no children being born basically so that does mean humanity ends. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:08 AM
0

You are most welcome. You make it easy. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:07 AM
0

yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 12:14 AM
1

OMG, it's the end of humanity!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:58 PM
2

Barely anyone knows what red pill is - let alone blue pill or any pills, So true. I really don't understand any of these pills. I just react to what is said. But yes, I do mean young men in their 20s and above. Anyway, you can believe what you want. If you are doing as well with women as you want/hope to, then you have nothing to learn or change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:35 PM
3

That's something you'll never know. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:31 PM
1

You seem to be creating a straw man about what a “nice guy” is. Speaking as a woman -- no, not a strawman. The type of self-proclaimed "nice guy" OP speaks of is everywhere. They are more obvious here because it's anonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 05:54 PM
1

Is it a form of self-justification? Yes. What else are you supposed to do, blame yourself? I'm joking, but also not joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 05:33 PM
0

Not partners that they are attracted to. They choose men that are willing to cover most/all of her expenses. Those men are nothing but ATMs and sperm donors to those women. LMAO. No wonder you are here complaining about your own lack of success with women lol. Edit: also sorry you don't make enough to afford an ATM. But again, dropping out is always an option. Lol https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/blame For you, again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 04:03 PM
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Then don't give it to them. They feel "entitled" all they want, if YOU don't give it to them, they still won't have it. YOU decide if they get their "entitled feelings" met. So exercise YOUR power and deny them! Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 02:20 PM
1

Agreed. Face tattoos definitely hold one back in the job market.
/r/RedPillWomen02/10/22 02:12 PM
1

Lol. Always interesting to see what makes a "nice guy" think he's "nice"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 02:10 PM
0

Women ridiculous requirements have priced most men out of the market. Women, like they have historically, are finding partners. So, if you are this angry about their "ridiculous requirements", then just drop out. Rest assured you won't be missed. PS. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/blame
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 02:06 PM
1

Funny how women always want to blame video games and/or porn. "Blame" suggests that I am dissatisfied with the current men-women situation. Nothing could be further from the truth. I myself married very well and my daughters are doing very well in the boyfriend market. The world, as it currently is, is just perfect for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:27 AM
5

When they say they are a "nice guy" -- major red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:24 PM
-2

Hmmm I don't think anyone is denying that a woman's n count matters to SOME men. Personally I am just here to learn how some men become bitter incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:22 PM
0

Nah, your OP is extremely misleading. You are talking to about the 1/1MM person. LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:15 PM
0

Then you should reword your OP. LMAO!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 03:59 PM
1

LMAO! https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key\_statistics/n-keystat.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 03:55 PM
1

Re read my post. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 03:00 PM
13

And it's logical for women to marry the best looking and richest man she can pull. Nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:20 PM
1

Thank you for explaining.
/r/RedPillWomen30/09/22 02:53 AM
0

Why are face tattoos a red flag? Genuine question.
/r/RedPillWomen29/09/22 01:15 PM
2

Because you are paranoid. Or your reality is the truth -- that multiple women see no other redeeming qualities in you except for your paycheck (which tbh isn't even impressive for someone hitting 30, especially if you are in the bay area)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 12:58 PM
5

Too much video games growing up, no incentive to take chances with rl women/girls. More and more common these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 12:43 PM
3

A self-proclaimed Chad ... who dedicated minutes of his Chad time to teach his incel bros how to spot and reject all those evil high count women!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:15 AM
3

Ain't ya a lucky one, to have so many options!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:45 AM
2

If you hate women so much, just don't approach/talk/look at them. No need to get so worked up. I am sure they won't miss you. Beside, who cares if a woman feels "entitled" to your liking her? She doesn't control YOUR feelings. YOU do! So don't give her YOUR like. Problem solved. No need to get so bent out of shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 12:45 AM
1

Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 12:09 AM
1

Well that's good news then. Single moms, as much as I admire them, are not good for kids. Raising children is a 2-people job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:01 PM
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Agreed. I guess the pro-"forced monogamy" men here don't really think that deep. All they want is to control women who they blame for initiating divorces. That, and they think that women cheat more than men in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:36 PM
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Eh that's on women for not being honest. Duh of course! I am just saying your estimates can go from "off" to "WAY off". But good luck. An exercise in futility. Though a great one for self righteousness! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:53 PM
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I mean, this isn't exactly new news. The problem has always been how do you really know her body count? I can see if you and her both stayed in your hometown, then you can presumably assume that from her high school reputation. But so many people move around so much these days or meet through dating apps, there's really not a reliable and easy way to screen out high count women. Edit: even reputation is hardly foolproof. I remember a NYT interview with Megan Fox a million years ago where she com…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:53 PM
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Imagine what he could do to you if you ever try to do something he disagrees with... I think you should try to get out of this relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen28/09/22 02:15 AM
3

Have you ever been pregnant? I have. It's hard to lose the baby weight. But no worries, if the piece of shit husband cheats, there's always divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:21 AM
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how bout we just stop trying to control what people do behind closed doors with consenting partners? 100% agree with you. My post of /s, in response to OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:20 AM
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The idea that women are victims is total BS! Agreed. Women file 70-80% of all divorces so they are definitely not wallowing in victimhood. In any case, enforcing monogamy would solve the problem, whether you go by your own personal data or collective government data.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:18 AM
1

Huh? I took OP's numbers, but if you disagree, you can go argue with him. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:14 PM
2

"Should"? Trust me, we KNOW. Doesn't change the wisdom of OP's proposal to enforce "monogamy". Then men won't cheat even if their wives get fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:12 PM
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Wonder how that's working out. According to OP, women initiate 70-80% of all divorces. So that's how it's working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:38 PM
2

Those men were HOT!! These days my girls think Harry Styles and Tom Holland are hot. Sheesh...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:24 PM
8

Yes, and add into your fanfic the part about all the women stay in shape out of "respect" for their men. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:17 PM
16

Nah, just criminalize cheating, like OP suggests. Problem solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 06:23 PM
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As a middle age woman, I support your idea of "forced monogamy". I know so many women whose husbands cheated on them after they've become fat and old or just fat after giving birth. Yes, force those men to stay monogamous! Give it some teeth -- make it criminal for husbands (and wives) to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:44 PM
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So you are good enough to f*ck but not good enough to date. So insulting. I'd cut him off already. Also, no way the sex is that good if he doesn't even find you attractive.
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/22 03:13 PM
0

Flippant and angry? Or just angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:20 PM
2

It is what it is, like I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:18 PM
-1

Women initiate ~70-80% of divorces as well. Clearly, women are not choosing very well. Their husbands end up cheating when they lose their physical attractiveness after giving birth. Men will always have more options vs women of same age, past 30s. Generally speaking, women have more options in their 20s and early 30s, men have more options in their 30s and on. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:49 PM
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I mean, it is what it is. You can choose to whine and even martyr yourself to take a stand against women's "hypocrisy" or you can spend your energy figuring out how to thrive in this competitive environment. Women are always going to be more choosey than men when it comes to sex simply because getting pregnant comes at a HUGE cost to women. Not only does she risk being a single mom, even in the best scenario where her partner stays, being pregnant and raising children often delays and reduces he…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:25 PM
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as long as your looks were up to par So, not all women have "inherent value" then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 06:29 PM
2

Bwahahahahah...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:48 PM
2

A tiny portion of women already participate in wars irl. So I guess, when and if a woman starts a war irl, the numbers will begin to work out after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:26 AM
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Men should only fight the wars they start, not the ones women start.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:58 AM
1

people consider extraverted men to be more masculine Wow I've never heard of that! I always thought "the strong, silent type" as the most masculine. But maybe things have changed as I am old.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:24 PM
-1

as long as they are honest about it. I am always honest about it (as far as you know).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:05 PM
1

using methods like enforcing monogamous relationships and marriage I just read the other day that stoning women to death for showing her ankles is still a thing in Saudi Arabia. But it's not just men who do the stoning, women do it too! That tells me that it's not just a political thing, it's cultural. But I don't see it happening in the west in our lifetime, so maybe emigration is an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:30 PM
6

to battle your way into the top 20% It's actually top 50%, a number I have seen in many places. Here's one https://www.statista.com/statistics/242030/marital-status-of-the-us-population-by-sex/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:19 PM
2

Idk man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 12:45 PM
4

I generally like to understand people and stay on top of societal trends. Also I think I am pretty knowledgeable on this subject seeing as I had successfully gotten myself a high quality husband. Why do you think this sub is for single people? Do you find dates here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:10 AM
1

I hope not, I just upvoted r/cocobabeinnyc123's post. I agree with her 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:05 AM
1

Girl, I am only interested in reflecting on your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:14 PM
1

Sure, but I was only talking about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:11 PM
1

Right, there are many more countries outside of what you call the "developed world"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:10 PM
1

Yes? Doesn't change anything I said. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:07 PM
1

He angry, women have been meanie to him lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:49 PM
4

Because OP is an American man. And who wouldn't want to date OP??? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:41 PM
1

Erm Idk where you got this but the quality of food in other countries aren't better. People just eat less, way less. Literally the only point OP got right is the fact that American women are really fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:38 PM
1

"He then said he had felt trapped in the relationship because he didn’t want to break up with me for fear that I’d commit suicide because I indeed was suicidal." I find it difficult to be kind to you, OP. My brother's wife, like you, threatens (both specifically and implied) to hurt herself and their children if he does something she doesn't like. Also, like you, anything, no matter how minor, can set her off. He walks on eggshell. He has felt trapped for many years and sucks it up because he re…
/r/RedPillWomen16/09/22 02:20 PM
7

Huh? He doesn't get dates because he's "too good"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:58 AM
3

Hobbies are for you, yourself, to enjoy. Aside from that, hobbies help you relate to more people (men and women) easier, faster and deeper. If your hobbies are not helping you do that, then you are not using them to your advantage. No one cares that you play the guitar unless somehow your skills help you understand/feel what I enjoy/struggle with/feel strongly about/etc. Or, if you are lucky enough to have the same hobby, then you should have a lot to talk about and can plan an outing around you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:53 AM
1

I would just say 2. He's your second and most important one. It's not your fault he insists on something that is none of his business and gets a lie. Eventually, if/when you break up and you want to piss him off, you can tell him the truth plus a few for impact.
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/22 11:37 PM
23

You are right -- raising children is a 2-people job. Men need to be made to be responsible for their share. "Up and leaving" should be criminalized more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:50 PM
7

Yes, it can happen. For example, this is what happens when you fall for a long time friend who you did not think of in that way, for years sometimes.
/r/RedPillWomen14/09/22 05:10 PM
8

He is a braggart who is also fragile. So annoying. I'd stop seeing him now or it'll be even more awkward with the friend group the longer this thing drags out.
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/22 01:50 PM
0

What does a "satisfying social life" look like for him?
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/22 01:35 PM
3

No one is happy to be forever alone. But men are more unhappy than women. This is because most women have stronger emotional connections with their friends and families.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:30 PM
2

Your relationship is going backwards.
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/22 04:05 PM
1

We are going to have to agree to disagree then. I definitely do not define "assholelery" as "being fun, exciting, courageous, adventurous". But good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:42 PM
3

My OP is agreeing with the OP of this subthread that "being fun, exciting, courageous, adventurous," is what women want, not being treated like shit by assholes. But you do you. Good luck. ^^ is what I said to another poster, but applies to you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:24 PM
3

be an asshole for moral reasons. Lol. I am going to be an asshole to gain access to Heaven! My OP is agreeing with the OP of this subthread that "being fun, exciting, courageous, adventurous," is what women want, not being treated like shit by assholes. But you do you. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:22 PM
2

I wouldn’t date a man who allows himself to be used by women in that manner. This implies that he knew he was being used -- in other words, that he himself got nothing out of having sex with her... is that even possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:08 PM
5

Lol, too funny!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:56 PM
5

which is why nice women date genuine assholes sometimes. Of course! That's why half of marriages end in divorce. My point wasn't to say that women are perfect. I was just pointing out that adding "assholelery" to your repertoire isn't helpful to most men who are initially unsuccessful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:16 PM
2

idk what 80/20 is, but we don't need to poop on other people's aesthetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:09 PM
12

It has little to do with being a jerk or an asshole, and everything to do with being fun, exciting, courageous, adventurous, and even more importantly not being weak, submissive, and fragile. Exactly. So many unsuccessful men mis-categorize their fragility and submissiveness as them being "too nice" and therefore, the fix is to act like an asshole. Then they are surprised when women don't take to them any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:52 AM
1

It's extremely important. You don't have to adhere to every rule but you need to buy in enough in order to feel that you belong. At the end of the day, humans are social animals and no one wants to be excluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:10 AM
3

Jim Carrey is very good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:35 PM
2

Matt Damon is definitely below average in the looks dpt. John Legend is avg. "Sexiest man alive" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:33 PM
1

Meh, don't bother feeling bad for her. I am sure she didn't think of your roommate as her "forever boyfriend" either. That's just how most kids are in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:23 PM
1

lol i don't care about you or your relationship, Same. Couldn't give a shit. Am I done? You are talking and I am responding. I guess I'll be done when you are done talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:14 AM
1

which is exactly what i did haha This is what you said. I had high n count and my relationship has been awesome too. So we are in the same happy place! Great!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:07 AM
1

Are you a man or a woman? Either way, sounds like your relationship ended badly, and I am very sorry. I hope at least your partner was hot and you had some good times together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:03 AM
3

Ooh I have plenty of regrets, none of which is of the "wish I was a virgin when I married my husband" variety. "sexual ignorance" is such a teeny tiny insignificant thing, it never even came up irl in my marriage. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:59 AM
1

of course it won't happen to you, because you're a woman. there's no risk. courts generally reward child custody, alimony, and usually the house to the woman. Then you should do as I do -- chose a partner wisely, not one who is going to abandon you just because you have a high n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:54 AM
3

Sorry to hear you have such a big life regret. Unfortunately I don't have a time machine for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:51 AM
1

having your kids and house ripped away from you? Huh? That happened to you? Because that'll never happen to me because of my n count. Or my partner's n count. I chose my partner wisely. Edit: you clearly haven't met a woman who has a corporate job. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:48 AM
6

Sorry to hear that you don't take your own advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:46 AM
1

Noticeable lack of real world consequences with your analogy You are kidding right? You think my period blood soaking through my pants while I am giving a presentation at work isn't a "real world consequence"?? Have you ever met a woman irl? Lol You know what has a total "lack of real world consequence" for me? That's right -- my partner's n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:44 AM
3

Well then, congrats to your wife for being the one to take your virginity. I am sure she appreciates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:36 AM
0

He hasn't changed, but you have. Now that you've lost weight, you've discovered that you actually like to be appreciated for your physical beauty. That's fine but you shouldn't marry him. He didn't care about it when you met, still doesn't, and probably never will.
/r/RedPillWomen11/09/22 03:24 AM
4

OP, I support your goal to lose your virginity to your future wife. Don't let anyone tell you that's not a worthy goal. Stay strong!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:14 AM
1

Huh? No, there is no difference. My "store brand pads are less absorbent than Always pads" is the perfect analogy of your "a hoe is less likely than a virgin to be a good housewife". My store brand pad affects my relationship with my period just like your hoe affects your relationship with your sanctimonious self-image. I gave you a perfect analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:06 AM
-2

Ok. Good luck finding your "good woman". Lol. Edit: don't get me wrong, I do appreciate that you are a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 12:44 AM
3

Wrong. I take the exact same issue with both situations -- I wouldn't call you a sociopath for lying about your feelings to get sex even though I don't like being lied to. In fact, I totally get it. Just like I get why a woman would lie about her n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 12:43 AM
2

Do you take issue with men lying about their personality and feelings in order to get sex ? Of course I do! But that's never happened nor will it ever happen to me. Either I didn't know he was lying or I didn't care at the time because, I too, wanted to have sex. And if I discovered later that he was lying (in the moment when he said it to me), then I can only blame myself for failing to read him better. Then again, I doubt I'd be too upset because, you know, I enjoyed myself too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:47 PM
4

It's sociopathic to lie about their body count. It's as sociopathic as me lying about me using Always sanitary pads when in fact I use store brands. But good luck finding a non-sociopathic woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:31 PM
-2

I'm curious if women actually think that it's all fine and no harm is done by lying about it. Yup, no harm no foul. This is my unpopular opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:15 PM
3

I mean I am not your mom, but maybe because, when you were growing up, you played too much video games and watched too much porn instead of talking and socialize with real life girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 07:37 PM
3

Because data says so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 07:35 PM
17

You find this hard to believe because you don't know women. You think you do (they are all sluts), but you are wrong. That's what the data is showing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:02 PM
4

Salad with veggies and beans. Throw a piece of seasoned meat or fish in the air fryer for the husband.
/r/RedPillWomen10/09/22 03:45 PM
2

Data? I don't see a difference in daughter's graduating class of 2022.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:33 AM
1

You’re contradicting yourself. He is not. Read slowly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:48 PM
-2

100%. Agree with OP too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:23 PM
3

Ok... so? What's it to you if some women end up alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:00 PM
-3

Sounds perfect!
/r/RedPillWomen08/09/22 05:45 PM
10

Making other arrangements just shows a lack of self control. That or she doesn't like Jack enough to want to control herself. Either way, not a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:05 PM
1

I don't know the women's motivations as I can't read their minds. But I live in a wealthy suburb of NYC so I know A LOT of women who are SAHM, including myself. And I think I personally have a "normal relationship" ...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:10 PM
2

I don't understand... what have you missed that you are regretful of? Don't you think you've been doing both career and marriage all along and the only difference is that you've just become woke to the red pill? My daughter (22yo), who has no idea of the RP, told me recently, all in one breath, that she is aiming for the C-suite of her Fortune 25 company while considering becoming a SAHM if she marries her current boyfriend who is sitting on a pile of equity of a high profile company that recent…
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/22 04:03 PM
3

American women are definitely not overrated lol. They are known all over the world as being really fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:12 PM
16

Idk, I think there's a whole segment of women who would put "career/financial success/prospect" ahead of looks, and maybe even personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:10 PM
8

I am SO sorry, OP! You are too young to have gone through all that. I have a daughter your age and it would break my heart if these things had happened to her. You should choose more carefully and take it slower next time. Also, don't take money from men, if you can help it. And don't lend them money either!
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/22 03:07 AM
20

He's not into you, but you are useful to him sometimes. Maybe he'll call you when he needs you to go to another event to take notes or something.
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/22 01:58 AM
10

and well respected in the community, But you don't have a community now? Like no one he can talk to, other than you? What happened? Did you all move and lost your community?
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/22 03:42 PM
0

Nah I don't care to communicate with aliens.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 11:32 PM
0

Nope, the disconnect is on YOUR end.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 11:16 PM
-1

I have never met a human being who is not reading through their own "bias". But maybe you meant to communicate with aliens. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 11:14 PM
10

party is over, scramble to get what you can get. Yup exactly. That's how, in the end, the majority of men do end up with a partner and the segment of men who failed to get a partner will stay relatively small.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 11:13 PM
-2

Well then, you just won't get it then. Just like some men don't get how some men seem to get so much interest from women. We can't all have excellent communications skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:05 PM
-1

Not wrong, but definitely "biased" as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:01 PM
0

"Expecting" doesn't equal "hoping for." I know what I read. Tip: communication happens above and beyond the exact written words. No one is saying it's not relevant to think about. I just had a whole discussion yesterday here about the impact of video games on men's ability to socialize. I have been noticing and thinking about this since my kids were toddlers. I simply did not care for the tone of this OP's first post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:54 PM
-1

I re read your OP and I got what was communicated to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:47 PM
-1

I will live to see society decline or the scale swing back towards men one way or the other. Maybe, if you even notice it. 100% not the "violent revolution" you are hoping for. Either way, you won't benefit from the "swing back" even if does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:29 PM
8

It has happened before and will happen again if things get bad enough. Maybe, maybe not. Either way, you won't be around to witness it, much less benefit from it. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:58 PM
6

They have their shit together which is super attractive to me. I don’t, which i known is bad. Do their girlfriends have their shit together more than you? I know people here like to claim that guys don't care, but it really depends on what type of guys. If you are, like someone here said, a 6-7, then looks shouldn't be the problem. But young men who "have their shit together" and are "nerdy" might be going for an "equal" in their partner (think a young Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckeberg). Sounds like …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:53 PM
7

They will even propose Fwb but fwb is ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:37 PM
4

they are typically struggling in life Everyone is, one way or another. In other words -- average.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:13 PM
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large segment of the male population I don't see it getting large enough to lead to violent revolution. At the end of the day, women still want men and majority of men still find mates. At most, there's a slightly larger minority of losers. Although they do be loud these days. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:11 PM
1

You did what 25 yrs ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:24 AM
2

I took up solitary solo hobbies initially because I was shunned socially. I read that more young men today suffer from loneliness than young men of previous generations. So I am thinking that, prior to the ubiquity of video games, when young men encounter rejection initially, many of them regroup and try again at a later date. They improve their social skills and they eventually succeed. However, since video games became so available, more young men just turn to the solace of video games (to use…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:40 PM
4

It's really sad to watch. My kids are 22 and 19 and many of their classmates growing up, boys especially, were always glued to video games. They skipped school dances, including the prom, because socializing is hard and video games are so easy and fun and comforting. Yes, many of them are scared to talk to women now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 05:48 PM
2

Maybe in your manual, but not everyone else's. Obviously.
/r/RedPillWomen30/08/22 05:25 PM
1

Sadly, our modern society neglects to actually instill those skills to kids when they need it most. Kids are busy playing video games these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 05:02 PM
7

What's a straight answer and are you implying an ultimatum? I'm not who you asked, but to me, examples of "straight answer" are: "I enjoy spending time with you, but I don't see us LT." "I don't want to see you dating other men. I am ready to make our relationship official." And Yes, these types of conversations should always imply an ultimatum. You don't hear what you need to hear, you walk away. 3 months is definitely enough time to tell if you want a LT relationship with the other person.
/r/RedPillWomen30/08/22 04:44 PM
2

and that those who are conscious of it (and oppose it) are generally derided as failing in some way. Idk "derided", but certainly less successful with modern women. But that's always been the case. Things change, cultural norms change, and those who resist the change have historically been left behind. That said, I do feel bad for men today. The landscape is so different and filled with dangers that didn't exist before. As a woman with two young adult daughters, I am very happy for these changes…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:28 PM
1

oh ok. I was just confused by your use of the word "value". I thought maybe you subscribe to traditional ways of meeting men and don't believe in technology.
/r/RedPillWomen29/08/22 05:58 PM
3

Agree with what you say women are attracted to. But you are exaggerating the difficulties of meeting these "requirements" of modern masculinity. As always, moderation is key. Plenty of men meet these requirement just by being themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 05:55 PM
2

Huh? What country do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 05:37 PM
1

What "important value" of yours does online dating violate but that hitting up or being hit up by a man at a bar does not violate?
/r/RedPillWomen29/08/22 05:20 PM
1

2 weeks is definitely to have done something to let one think that one might get fired. In most cases, it's not as big of a deal as one makes it, but I understand why your fiance might be stressed. Being impatient with you is definitely part of him being worried about his job. What strikes me the most is why he hasn't shared with you what had happened to give him the idea that his job might be in danger. If something like this were to happen to my husband, I would be the first one he discusses t…
/r/RedPillWomen29/08/22 05:09 PM
4

I've never been dumped, so I think I'm doing OK overall. "Never been dumped" is only brag-worthy for immature teens. Or immature/insecure adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:26 PM
0

Mother of two daughters (22 and 19) here. First, I would make sure to tell my hypothetical son to stay on the right side of what's legal. Familiarize yourself with what's acceptable legally in your state/country, but also culturally in your town/country. No girl is worth ruining your son's future for. Second, I would help my son understand what types of things would NEVER attract the kind of girl I want my son to date. For example, don't ever send dick pics. There are also other super cringy thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 08:24 PM
5

So, my "need for interaction with other men" is now called a "fetish" and is something my husband should work at/accommodate me for?? Lol this is one fetish I can get behind!!
/r/RedPillWomen28/08/22 05:12 PM
0

Yes, parents who love their children would worry and feel sad about their children's lack of dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:15 AM
2

Why do you think your boys will struggle?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:03 AM
9

Can you give a couple examples of the "humble brag" you mentioned? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 01:19 AM
5

Ladies also, you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 02:21 PM
0

Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:09 AM
2

Aww, you poor thing. It hurts to be rejected by "Chad's leftovers".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:26 AM
1

Clearly you are already convinced of your own "rightness" and don't want to hear other people's opinions. Please modify your OP and remove the false "debate" label.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:18 AM
2

It's true that some women don't want kids. This is not a lie. But I think it's extremely rare for a woman to not want a partner. There are several subreddits that cater to women who are "forever alone" and they are not happy. They see their social circle shrink as more of their friends pair up and begin to socialize as couples. Ultimately though, friends aren't a substitute for a partner who comes to pick you up when your car is broken down on the side of the road, who takes care of you when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:53 AM
1

Jealousy is preventing some men here from accepting your successful "chad" Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 08:45 PM
3

If we are talking about successful and educated men in their 20s and 30s, then aside from compatible personalities, they marry their intellectual and class equal. Many find their partner in college or grad school. If we are talking older men, after a divorce or two, then they are looking for young and pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 08:15 PM
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the fact that he said nothing at all in those two weeks + telling me he would be busy for 1.5 months + getting sick just then and not offering an alternative = not that into you. Yup, you are right, he's not that into you. So, this is your "closure", move on.
/r/RedPillWomen24/08/22 02:06 PM
2

The constant search for a new high is a red flag for sure. Agreed, and applies to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:26 PM
3

Your suggestion is way more interesting than OP's.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:21 AM
6

Lol, I call them "dilusional". But maybe you are right, a lot of people seem to be using entitled instead of dilusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:34 PM
1

That is a little weird... I'd say let this go especially since you didn't feel it. But don't string him along, tell him no, gently.
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/22 03:22 PM
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I guess I don't understand the word "entitled" when used in this context. Like, who do these women think are obligated to give them what you say they feel "entitled" to have? I mean, I can see how kids feel "entitled" to have their own car -- in this context, the person they expect to satisfy what they feel they are "entitled" to is their parent. So who do these women you speak of think are the people who they expect to satisfy their "entitled" feeling?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:11 PM
-1

I can see this as a genuine mistake though. Do you not believe this is a genuine mistake? Or are you bothered by the fact that he let you split the bill on a date?
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/22 02:44 PM
-1

I don't understand the "restaurant issue". Are you complaining that he ordered more food but split the bill down the middle? Or did he order take-away food but let you pay for half of that too?
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/22 01:21 PM
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No one is "demanding and feeling entitled" to anything. Women, like men, are just putting themselves out there and trying to get the best they can with what they got. Your post drips with animosity towards women. It's a turn off, a very unattractive attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:16 PM
1

Idk, I think u/Sad_Top1743 has the correct answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:48 AM
2

I agree!! I think about the "popular" girls in my daughters' high school and they all go to schools like CU Boulder, Penn State, Indiana, etc. and major in Psych or communications!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:47 AM
3

which ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:59 PM
1

Would Trump be with Melania if she were ugly and fat? Would JayZ be with Beyonce if she were ugly and fat? Would Tom Brady be with Gisele if she were ugly and fat? NO.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:25 PM
10

You disagree? You don't think the people in your link are cunts?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:33 PM
1

As my daughter would, and did, say: "Por que no los dos?" Fyi, the part about being a study horse and high IQ, that isn't really anything until they translate into actual prestigious jobs with high pay and incredible upside.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:11 PM
1

Depends on how you define "best interest". Many reasonable people see "experiencing life to its fullest" as their "best interest" and some of these people categorize "sex with many partners" as part of "experiencing life to its fullest". So to them, being chaste is NOT in their "best interest". Now, it sounds like your definition of "best interest" for a woman is to "find a partner who will appreciate my lack of sexual experience". If so, you are 100% correct. Like I always say "live and let liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:22 PM
2

Yes, my daughters are 22 and 19. Their generation grew up playing Fifa, fortnite, micraft, etc. So these guys are in their 20s- early 30s, I'd say. I know SO many boys who chose to play video games with their friends instead of going to their senior prom. That's one example early in their dating lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:12 PM
1

Maybe it's both. But the point is that, in the past when video games weren't that prevalent, these guys who were initially unsuccessful would learn and try again. Now, they just retreat into video games because it's easier and it's there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:06 PM
3

Maybe try texting him during the day and see how he responds? I feel like men often don't know how much communication they want from their gf. They also change their minds as the relationship progresses and they get more attached. My daughter (22) and her bf have been in a LDR for the last 3 months. At first he rejected daughter's suggestion of 30 min of facetiming every 2 or 3 days. But then, within a couple weeks, they were talking every single night. And a few days ago, daughter told me that …
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/22 01:30 AM
2

I blame video games. That's what I see all boys do, day and night. They don't socialize with girls, barely even with boys unless it's while playing video games. These boys grow into men who are scared of women and don't know how to approach them like normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 12:09 AM
2

Huh? Which "women"? I can only speak for myself. I didn't "sleep around and then yada yada" so I can't answer your question. But again, it's a free country so just do whatever and she too can do whatever she wants. Peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:57 PM
3

Nah, the most interesting conversations always start with a show/movie and lead to discussions of personal philosophy/values/ambitions/etc. just general understanding of the world. You don't need to spend money on rare hobbies or go on adventurous trips to be interesting. Just Netflix.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:43 PM
2

I got it the first time you said it -- cheating on her is not a big deal for YOU. I'd have to talk to HER to know her take. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:38 PM
6

Yes, she CAN do all of those because it's a free country. You don't like it, you are free to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:45 PM
5

Then you are just playing dumb. Edit: or maybe really dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:44 PM
1

Can you "be happy" for them when they find their partner? Because that's what being "friends" mean -- you are happy for them when good things happen to them.
/r/RedPillWomen18/08/22 09:07 PM
1

I wouldn't judge teens too harshly, or those under 25 Lol I wouldn't even judge a 55 yo for this! It's a spectrum anyway and they may not have encountered an opportunity before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:00 PM
3

Yes but his cheating isn't a big deal. Not to YOU. She may have other ideas. You may call her a hypocrite or whatnot, but again, it's a free country and she's free to not be a virgin and not accept a cheating husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:58 PM
3

If you are not joking, check title of this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:54 PM
5

So please don't be misconceived that there are men out there that would care more. We don't. Right, you speak for 4 billion people. Lol Besides, just stay away from hoes, if you don't like them. What's the big deal? Why so angry? Live and let live, you know, chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:01 PM
7

Nah it's not on HIM to make sure SHE can deal with the consequences of HIS cheating. She can always walk if she can't deal. It's a free country.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:54 PM
5

Zero downsides for men here. You mean -- zero downsides for YOU. Lol you must be young (and angry) if you think men don't care about having a nice little family with a pretty wife and the lovely 2.5 kids and a family dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:54 PM
4

How about just make sure she can deal with these consequences. What consequences? But regardless, if she can't deal, she can just divorce him. It's a free country.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:50 PM
1

It is not true that most women who claim to be bi are not bisexual. For almost all of them it does not bear out that it is just a "phase" or a fashion accessory like you claim. My daughters (22 and 19) have told me that some of their girl friends call themselves "bi" because it makes them feel "special". Or sometimes, it's because they've not gotten much notice from boys and often their moms/relative would ask if they are gay. I guess eventually they say yes to either get the mom off their backs…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:44 PM
5

Live and let live, OP. Let it go because, like you said, you ain't convincing anyone here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:24 PM
8

If a guys wife rejects him for sex, he should cheat on her. Yes, just make sure he can deal with the consequences. Or he can also try to get her permission to indulge in hedonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:57 PM
6

Who says they can't? Plenty do indulge in post-marriage hedonism. Of course the downside is, if you are caught, you may lose a nice little family/life you worked hard to build.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:55 PM
2

He doesn't love you, OP. If he did, he would NOT be ok with you having sex with other men.
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/22 11:37 PM
5

I think I’m scared no one will ever actually love me after I turn 30. So break up with him NOW! Today is the youngest you'll ever be. Do it now.
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/22 11:33 PM
1

Enjoy your schadenfreude then. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:52 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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