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I’m entitled to block you… so that’s what i’ll be doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:18 PM
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Wouldn’t this make landlords entitled as well? What gives them the right to maximize profits? Is it a necessity?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:16 PM
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weird comment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:14 PM
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i think this is the healthiest comment i’ve seen in a while on this sub!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:12 PM
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homeless shelters often don’t have the space or resources to actually house the amount of homeless people needing a shelter, hence why you probably see many on the streets depending on where you live. Many homeless can only stay temporarily in shelters as well, for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:09 PM
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people mostly are complaining about barely even being able to afford these tiny apartments as time go on, which can cause a rise in homelessness
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:36 PM
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Yes, a lot more men were dying in wars than today. Also, the numbers will never fully be even when it comes to reproduction. As a woman, i could decide to sleep with 100 men and will only reproduce with 1 of them & will carry for 9 months. Being able to reproduce doesn’t mean sex/relationship wasn’t present. Especially if we also go into the topic of how pregnancy loss and infant death was common prior to modern medicine. This means many people reproduced but never actually had children that liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:18 PM
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I think a lot of men are overestimating the amount of online attention women get. Like most girls don’t have that many followers & people DM’ing them. I think men see women, like IG “baddies” talk a certain way about men that slide in their DM and assume its the same for most women but it’s really a specific type.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:11 PM
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I am from Canada and lots of homeless people die in the winter due to lack of housing. It is a necessity, especially since the government won’t allow people to just build their own tents and place them where there’s free space, or small home, everything is owned/controlled by the government too, who we pay taxes to… That’s why people complain. It’s a really bad example, and it does not compare whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:37 PM
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i mean… if we’re basing things off the amount of surgeries people get… women have been getting surgeries since forever & do all kinds of fillers/procedures to remain appealing. It just sounds like a pressure that was already felt by women is now felt by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:24 PM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:40 AM
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The fact that you’re sitting here telling me, a woman, that women don’t like sex tells me all i need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:04 AM
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thanks for being honest here… Your first paragraph is literally what i was implying. I’m not sure why there’s so much pushback. I am sure a complete lack of sex does push a lot of men to watch it more, but i also know for a fact men who are having sex, and who don’t struggle in that area.. Also watch it. The original comment didn’t seem logical to me for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:29 AM
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Most normal couples aren’t in dead bedrooms and aren’t ignored by their women, women also like sex. If the issue is men not being satisfied despite having access to women & sex, then you shouldn’t call is “being invisible to women”. It’s like telling someone you’ve been starved because you only got 2 plates of food instead of 3. Disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:22 AM
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i clearly said sexually active
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:14 AM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:13 AM
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they just said “men” meaning they generalized and i commented based off that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:42 AM
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yeah got it for the ted bundy thing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:37 AM
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i can agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:36 AM
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interesting, i will read on it thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:10 AM
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Regardless, these men aren’t invisible to women like the original commenter said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:10 AM
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so you read minds now
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:09 AM
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That would mean men in relationships wouldn’t watch porn, or men that are sexually active in general. That’s not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:37 PM
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right, as a woman most of my instagram activity is just looking at clothes, nails or outfits to wear. Other than interacting with friends ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:36 PM
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Not really, it’s the opposite from what i’ve heard. I see a lot of men in this comment say what you’ve said but i wonder if there is any actual research or study behind that? genuinely wondering. And a personal thought: I think it shows more men what they cant have in real life too which can be a negative thing. Same way instagram girls flaunt their surgeries, rich lifestyle and make younger women more depressed about their looks and in return spend more money on their looks. I think something s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:33 PM
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I straight-up wouldn’t have gotten into a relationship with my now wife 16 years ago if she had played the “let’s wait” game with me. If she hadn’t shown interest and intention sexually, I would’ve moved on. I mean that’s fine?! You & your wife are compatible & see things similarly. I just don’t get why you’re assuming there’s any type of “game” behind what i am saying as if it’s a manipulative thing to do. Being someone with less experience & who’s only had one sexual partner before - i was spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:03 AM
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I didn’t blame anyone. I just don’t believe that these men are necessarily having a huge amount of casual sex with that many women or even most women - It doesn’t keep them from trying and telling women that’s what they want. There’s a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:54 PM
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The percentage that has it with men. which is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:35 PM
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OP said “hook up” so that’s what’s implied by “casual relationship” - it is not defined by any type of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:33 PM
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I don’t think that was the point of the post though. OP specifically talked about men who wanted a casual relationship. It wasn’t about the timeline in which men & women have sex while starting a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:53 PM
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what is the % of the female population you think has casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:45 PM
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Then again, you could say the opposite. Good sex or sexual compatibility doesn’t mean that two people are a good fit relationship wise either. For some people it can make things more complicated or cloud their judgement. Plus, sex is something people can work on. The first few times may not be amazing but with communication the sex can improve and be great. But i think OP is speaking on men who strictly want to hook up. Not necessarily upfront sex with the intent of potentially starting a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:39 PM
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right, there’s definitely a good chunk of those too which makes things worse 💀 I can at least respect honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:32 PM
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Unless i become a famous historical figure, i will be forgotten so will everyone else. I do hope for marriage & children but i’m not concerned with legacy. I just love kids and would prefer for them to grow in a household with both parents. Marriage is still pretty important in my culture so if i have children with a man, i want that as well. The idea of “legacy” seems rooted in ego. In reality, most people won’t really have much legacy - apart maybe a few pictures and stories about who they wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:21 PM
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Your initial comment made it seem like you were accusing OP of generalizing all men when realistically, the men in this sub are clearly part of a specific demographic which represents a tiny and minuscule part of the male population who share similar traits & opinions. There’s a huge difference, that’s why you received some pushback. Don’t act obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:08 PM
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Ok, so if i go on a sub about virgin and say “most men on here are virgins” wouldn’t it be an accurate generalization? If i go on a feminist sub and say “most women in here have feminist ideologies “ wouldn’t that be an accurate generalization? If i got to a church and say “most men in here are christian “ wouldn’t that be an ok generalization? I think you’re smart enough to understand the nuances here. You can call it a generalization but would be accurate by the single fact that it attracts th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:30 PM
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« Most men on here » don’t even represent 0.1% of the male population… bffr
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:36 AM
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same, literally… funerals and that’s about it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:48 PM
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perhaps those are the women you date
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:31 PM
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Can you outline the link between matriarchal societies & cheating in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:27 PM
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I’m not… It’s weird. You’re weird for trying to claim a woman having fears around dating = mental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:46 PM
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Seriously… it’s insane. They will find a way to belittle and criticize women no matter what it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:44 PM
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Reports from different decades and different institutions consistently show that men have and still have more of a tendency to cheat. They explain that in the article too. Regardless of whether each study 100% accurate or not, it at least gives us tool to measure tendencies each genders have. That’s much better than assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:42 PM
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1) there’s no link to an actual study or i could not see it 2) there’s also zero data on men & doesn’t address if they have some or not so we can’t really use this to compare both genders. It’s also more proof that you are biased, there are studies out there comparing both genders and that’s what should be used. 3) Even if we were to consider this data, which doesn’t give any type of information on men - This means they don’t have a plan B but still cheat more? How is that good/better?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:58 PM
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The study isn’t based on who gets caught more… It just sounds like you are extremely biased at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:32 PM
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And how are they doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:29 PM
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Capacity doesn’t necessarily correlate with action. Statistics show that men cheat more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:24 PM
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That’s not true at all. Men will boost each other up to cheat and can do the same - but it’s true that it’s in both cases it’s more about the people you surround yourself with. It’s not a question of gender. I’ve seen it in both ways. I’m still in my 20s so i’m not sure if it’s younger dudes that are more prone to this, but it’s common. Generally, if the people around you normalize something - it will be easier for you to normalize that behaviour too. I also think (some) men think of a man cheat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:11 PM
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going through people’s post history just to criticize them and assume they have mental issues is crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:51 PM
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The point of going to therapy is to resolve the mental issues you have, not to provide your therapist with a stable income. Where did this person mention going to therapy? Being a virgin because you had near pathological fear of dates for the first 20 years of your life is not an achievement. You’re putting words in people’s mouths with your “Pathological fear of dates”. She mentioned “i started dating again” meaning… she probably started dating and stopped. Meaning, she did not deal with for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:49 PM
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If she overcame that then clearly it’s not an “underlying mental issue” . Things can just be more intimidating if you’ve never done it before or have bad experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:05 PM
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LMAO ok then.. Pearl is ugly. I think an average woman is slightly less than the woman you showed. Don’t forget that average also technically means a bit overweight in America. And Megan is quite hot, even in her 30s, she could have had a wealthy man even if she was not a celebrity. I genuinely think so. But maybe that’s a matter of opinion & arguing details.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:18 AM
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A generic looking 25 y/o female has more options than an old woman who looks like Megan Fox. I doubt it. Megan fox is above average. Take a look at a woman like Pearl who is average (the RP female influencer)… You’re telling me she has more options than megan fox? Do you think MGK would have proposed to Pearl over megan fox? On the other hand, a handsome 40 year old guy has way more options than a generic looking 25 year old If that man is handsome at 40 - chances are he was handsome at 25 thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:57 AM
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So you think a bald man and megan fox have the same amount of options?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:33 AM
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who cares? Men will still pursue and simp on Megan fox anyway. She can still find a boyfriend easily. Plus, she already had kids so she’s fulfilled in that area & can just happily focus on them if she’s no longer dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:08 AM
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literally so many people i know are traumatized in some way by their fathers… daddy issues are so common amongst men and women. So im not sure how true that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:06 AM
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that’s a good point… even as someone who’s never been married but dated men - they don’t break up a lot of times… They will just treat you a certain way until you decide to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:03 AM
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do you have sex with them to know that or?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:45 AM
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Okay, so if he had a house or a penthouse apartment, what would change?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:42 AM
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what’s wrong with a one bedroom apartment exactly? they’re expensive nowadays. Wish i had that over a roommate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:44 AM
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The mistrust could be due to things that go beyond wanting casual sex at some point in your life. To be fair, i’ve been with one man sexually but i’ve still felt that way. I’ve been harassed sexually since 12, had men play with my feelings & try to take advantage of my naivety/lack of experience. There’s not one single scenario that causes women to mistrust men, it’s usually many different ones accumulated in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:54 AM
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Women are doing fine in their careers because they are making less children and having them later in life. It’s not about leave, it’s about actual pregnancy which men don’t experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:33 AM
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I think the act of sex is biologically linked to procreation. Same way a cat in heat wants to get around the block. That’s the reason we don’t go extinct. I think commitment and exclusivity serve a purpose for sure. I just don’t see the act of wanting sex; or having sex as something inherently linked to commitment & exclusivity. That’s not to say it’s not best for it to happen in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:39 PM
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Not necessarily. My point is - you are assuming that the women who have casual sex were somehow hoping to get commitment when they might have wanted just that - sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:29 PM
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No, it’s based on the idea that women also experience sexual attraction and feel horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:20 PM
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I mean, what you’re explaining is highly anecdotal. Plenty of people, including women, have casual relationships before they settle down and it doesn’t mean they were lying to themselves or will end up depressed. And my point wasn’t to say that either one is good - I was just saying that this behaviour isn’t exclusive to women. Men do these things as well. Seems like we agree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:17 PM
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I spent my 20s discovering myself and only lost my virginity at 26. I know that’s more uncommon but i also think many women’s definition of discovering themselves have little to do with being promiscuous. I feel like this is typically a projection from men based on their own desires. I’m glad i started dating while i was mature and learned how to be on my own. I don’t struggle to leave shitty men for that reason. I think any woman should learn how to be single. Personally- I travelled a lot. I’d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:08 PM
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To be fair, i’ve pulled back from men but it was never due to dealing with other men. I wanted that person back because i realized my immaturity and was still interested. I didn’t even date/sleep with other men. I literally left just to be on my own & that allowed me to see what i was missing. I think assuming that is a little bit immature, especially when you can literally communicate and make an assessment based on that. OP seems to have created a story in his head rather than just asking that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:55 PM
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Why don’t you ask that person? You’re assuming a lot of things here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:49 PM
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Well, to have a lot of children as woman means you probably have to sacrifice your career or at least pause it for a moment so this makes sense if career women are both less common, or don’t have many or any children if they do. Men have the advantage of being able to have both things thriving at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:42 PM
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Women don’t have to date or have sex just for the purpose of commitment. Just a reminder.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:39 PM
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People fucking other races & settling down isn’t gender exclusive. If anything, i’ve seen men do that way more often… Especially if they come from a culture where religion is a big part of it. They will fuck around with whatever and whoever they can and go find some submissive wife from their own culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:36 PM
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Your point has nothing to do with mine then. The conversation is about regular women, not influencers, models or OF girls.. getting chased by elite men - aka athletes, actors, celebrities, etc. I am speaking on the second to last paragraph in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:26 PM
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What does that have to do with my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:35 PM
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This is just a video showing that a conventionally attractive white man gets attention from women which is common knowledge. It doesn’t prove that your everyday, regular woman is being pursued by “elite men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:15 PM
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That other commenter is clearly speaking out of emotion and is too stuck in their victim mentality to ever have the self awareness to admit any of this. Common amongst RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:56 PM
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I think so. Plus, the internet makes it seem like there are so many of them when realistically they represent a very small minority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:32 PM
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There are 8,9 and 10s that are “regular” - the women being pursued by these men are typically influencers or work in an industry where they are around these men. Regular does not mean average in looks in this case. It just means women that aren’t in the group i specified in my initial comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:27 PM
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usually when speaking of age gap relationships… we mean 5-10 years. That’s why many on here say that a woman’s peak is early 20s and a man’s starts in their 30s - they are implying that women prefer that larger age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:56 PM
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definitely… especially dudes on here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:53 PM
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exactly 🤣 why tf do they think regular women are all somehow being pursued by “elite men”. They watch a few podcasts with influencers and OF models & think that represents most women. That’s literally delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:51 PM
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where did i mention feminism? Big fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:19 AM
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You’re acting as if without redpill - Men cannot develop boundaries, speak for themselves and have a genuinely healthy/good relationship. It sounds like indoctrination.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:21 AM
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There are female dating influencers and women who say the exact same thing RP men say - just in reverse. You’re just not familiar with it because you’re a man and it’s not geared towards you. I mean, im honestly not that invested in this conversation - you are a redpill so obviously you will defend that into oblivion. I was stating my opinion on it, you have yours. Whether men relate to it or not - I think 90% of these “influencers” are full of it and know what to say to attract certain crowds, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:02 AM
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ok? same thing can be said about the same type of content women are seeing. I don’t really get the point here. Most of that content are just influencers profiting off people’s pain let’s be real. That’s why there’s always some course they sell, or statements made to go viral. Most are just too blind to realize this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:03 AM
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Yes - as a woman i will start receiving “men are trash” type of content and have to actively be aware of it and remove it from whatever platform im seeing it in order not to be bombarded with that type of content. And many men have told me they get redpill, andrew tate/fresh n fit type of content (aka women are trash content) pushed on their social platforms without even looking for it. Idk about being pilled, but they will definitely be negatively influenced by the content. I feel like most peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:02 PM
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okay
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:52 PM
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I think attraction is more important than looks. Lots of men are technically “objectively attractive” but i feel nothing towards them. But attraction would be like 10/10 it matters a lot because that will make me want to get to know a man romantically. I don’t like too muscular, or too much beard. Skinny/lean is what i prefer, and a nice smile. I’m 5.5 and the last man i had sex with was 5’6 or 5’7 at most. But his face was easily a 8-9/10, amazing smile. Plus good style and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:44 PM
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Yes - these people typically lack any type of self awareness and never really see their own faults therefore they will always be perpetual victims. Redpill men are part of that crowd but can’t recognize their own victims mentality because they are caught up with the superficial aspects of “self improvement”. I rarely see them actually having better relationships and the men who do find a good relationship typically leave RP alone & move on with their lives. And as a woman, i refuse to be part of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:33 PM
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At some point most men do end up wanting a relationship. He might still be open to sex while finding that person - but the point remains is that he will look for certain traits and have requirements in order to be in a relationship with a woman vs just a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 06:26 PM
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And then what is written at the start of the next paragraph?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 06:06 PM
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Do you really want to convice me that a woman would not want a man that is good looking, "respect her boundaries" and is sexual skilled for a LTR? For real? I literally never said that, can you read? Also, im not paying or subscribing to that website just to read that article.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 06:02 PM
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1)There are women in dead bedrooms who don’t want to be FYI. That sub isn’t just men, two first 2 posts i saw were literally by women. And typically people in this position have shit loads of other relationship issues that are affecting their sex lives… Not the other way around. To use some random subreddit as proof that all women are not sexually attracted to men they end up in relationships is quite ridiculous. There are subs out there about sex with tons of couples who have completely differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:56 PM
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Same, i’ve had sex with one dude, but dated a redpill guy before my first boyfriend… He was 100% like this guy commenting and i just left him because i knew i was never going to have sex, or start a relationship with a guy like that. 💀 It’s such a turn off. They don’t actually see sex as anything valuable, sacred, intimate etc… the way a lot of women who are virgins are - It’s just about their ego and negative feelings towards women in general. No thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:29 PM
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what? If one is in a relationship… of course they want to hook up. Completely physically platonic relationships between two adults are very rare and it’s usually due to religious beliefs if two people that are dating aren’t having sex. But there is more to a relationship than sex, whereas hookups are just based on having sex. People looking for more than just sex are not looking for the exact same things people looking for a relationship and that’s OP’s point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:24 PM
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huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:06 PM
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there’s billions of average men in the world who have that… get off the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:50 PM
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and you got this from where?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:05 AM
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but at the very least they are attracted to the things in a women that are indelible parts of her Not really. Men attracted to youth and beauty, which both fade. That’s why redpillers love dangling the wall theory in women’s faces all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:49 AM
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Intimacy (emotional/physical), a life partner, consistent sex, potential children that will carry your name (a legacy), creating a home, companionship… I mean the list goes on. There tons of things a man could gain from a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:40 AM
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So now even women who split everything 50/50 are gold diggers?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:29 AM
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What does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:25 AM
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Exactly 🤣 If we look at the world before feminism , it’s clear that this was always the case… which is why feminism even started.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:22 AM
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I think you view it that way because you’re a man lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:12 AM
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Who cares about the collapse of civilization? Human beings are shitty, pollute the earth and start wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:08 PM
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I mean, even if the word definition is different - what does that change? I explained what i meant and why that is a reason i prefer celibacy. I’m not sure i understand why you have a problem with wanting to make sure the person i have sex with likes more for more than just the physical? Why the back & forth? And regarding your link… It didn’t show any actual condition linked to celibacy. Just that sex is good for your health. Many things can “lead to” and “help with” health, but that’s very dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:58 AM
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Nobody has sex with another person they don't like at all. You have to like something about her. It was obvious from my comment that i was explaining that they would do these things in order to have sex - obviously they are sexually attracted. But that does not mean they like you as a person, im surprised you couldn’t connect simple dots. Liking someone typically means you like their presence, personality, spending time together, etc. And we use the term sexually attracted for those who seek to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:32 AM
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Sure, i believe you… But i’ve also seen men openly say they would have sex with certain women they don’t like at all just because they are physically attractive. I even saw this influencer Sneako argue with a woman, saying he hates her, then saying he wanted to fuck her within minutes. I’ve dated men who i knew did not like me as a person pursue me in hopes to have sex too… but of course they can only pretend for so long, and i was even told what they said about me while actively acting like the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:04 AM
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Sure, there are always some exceptions. Not that much of an exception. Men on here like to think most women are promiscuous when in reality those are just the insta and OF girls most of them pay attention to. One sexual partner is low but most women i know are not promiscuous but those that are get way more attention from men. That’s just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:53 AM
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preach
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:39 PM
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Not really, i’ve slept with one guy & feel that way. If anything im glad i was a late bloomer and realized that valuing singleness is good because it kept me from sleeping/dating lots of men who i might have had a negative impact on my mental and emotional health. I think more women should do this. I also think it’s ridiculous to come to that conclusion because the point is to not sleep or date men unless we see qualities we like - so these women aren’t being promiscuous. The promiscuous women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:33 PM
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exactly… you always have to be mindful of the fact that the man may be saying and acting a certain way just to get laid or even get validation. Men can date/have sex with women they don’t even like & will do what it takes to pursue them… that’s a scary thing to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:24 PM
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I was having this conversation yesterday… like… men on here saying this don’t realize it just makes men look like awful people who are only “good” if they have no choice. It’s also basically judging men based on looks but in favour of ugly men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:20 PM
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I feel that way and it’s not necessarily a lack of hope. It’s more about being OK with singleness to avoid getting attached and dealing with shitty men since they are out there. I’ll take my time while dating and if i do happen to meet a good man, who also shares goals, values and all the other things that are important in a relationship - great! I will consider myself lucky. But if not, being completely celibate/single is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:16 PM
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The point is that it’s not necessarily a man repellent. If a woman is pretty/hot she can still get attention while bald.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:19 PM
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This article simply gives information on attacks and does not confirm the gender of any of the people that are orchestrating it or that support it. Besides, how exactly does that relate to you? Have you personally done anything in this conflict? You’re using foreign countries political issues (a country under dictatorship on top of it) as if that prevents you from going out of your house and supporting a male centred cause. The topic could be men’s homelessness , mental health, domestic violence…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:25 PM
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It’s not about forming just any group…. I think you lack understanding here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:28 PM
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What is there to support exactly? If i am supporting a specific cause that means it was already created by said group. And it also ignores that men constitute of 50% of the population therefore even if it most men take action - it would count for a big portion of the population. What we see is just men writing paragraphs online but not really doing anything in reality. The government officials that make most of these decisions are also male so i would imagine it’s important for other men to be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:15 PM
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Well then that comment does not apply to you. I was simply making the point that men lack organization when it comes to creating spaces, organizations and marches to help other men - it could be about anything. It’s just a rare occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:09 PM
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You’re just making more excuses as to why you are too lazy to do any real work to help men. Plus, war isn’t the only place/area where men need help. It’s all across the board - Men lack organization & don’t typically take action to help other men in the real world. It’s a rare occurrence. You could change that but for some reason you’d rather find excuses & the same conversation over and over without any real action plan behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:04 PM
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Ok, so if you believe that women shouldn’t go to war then you’re obviously not going to be doing anything for men in that aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:56 PM
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Some of these things happened over 100 years ago, or not even in your lifetime. And it happened when women themselves had very little rights. That’s a ridiculous excuse. You could literally go out there tomorrow, and start a charity, support groups, organize marches , create petitions… etc. Men overwhelmingly lack organization in that aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:41 PM
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So do men care about being drafted or not? If so, why not organize marches, events, social groups in order to fight that? I always see the argument of men wanting women to somehow riot and fight for them, when men do very little - in real life - to help their own cause. Women can support you, but i am not sure why we’re expected to fight. Gay people marched for themselves and others joined, black people did the same, women did the same. If men face certain types of oppression they can put that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:02 PM
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if the woman has a pretty face & good body men will like it. I have bald friends and they get attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:21 AM
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Or what visa they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:28 AM
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I mean… if its important to them that’s whatever but i don’t get why they believe that entitles them to a good woman. A good woman will look for values in a man that go beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:55 AM
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What evidence do you have that male loneliness and dating problems are less worse in places where it’s legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:19 AM
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If it is then these countries wouldn’t have the same problems when it comes to loneliness of men, dating, etc… but it’s all pretty much the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:58 AM
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they aren’t necessarily worse, but not better. If the issue is socialization, relationships, intimacy then prostitution won’t solve that. Sex with a prostitute doesn’t give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:44 AM
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Needing sex and needing relationships/socialization are two separate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:43 AM
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That’s what he explained in the comments and that’s what my comments were based on lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:38 AM
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I think that is why more women are slowly accepting & educating themselves on being childless. That or they chose to have children and are OK being single mothers rather than force a relationship with men who will devalue them once they age anyway. If children are what brings happiness then there are way to have them without marriage. I think men repeating these things as an attempt to belittle women will just make women go down these routes more. If women’s only value is looks and how young the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:27 AM
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Exactly.. there is zero self awareness there. He’s already created single parent households and divorces so she is just more likely to end up in that position if she gives him a chance. There’s literally no reason for a good woman to be with a man like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:16 AM
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Yet… many men do it. You can’t claim that it’s none because these types of marriages exist…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:10 AM
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OP’s premise was that the guy had to have kids in order to access his own inheritance despite never wanting ant relationship, commitment, marriage, or family. So it’s basically having a child in order to have access to X amount of money despite not wanting a family life - so yes that context it is selfish. He could just build his own life and wealth & just spare the kid. Like you said, kids deserve their parents love & someone’s incentive to have children should be to give love to those kids - n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:07 AM
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Sounds like you took it personal 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:18 PM
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Does he? Multiple baby mamas and ex wives, never been single for more than two weeks (according to OP) … This man might be financially stable but he doesn’t sound like he has his shit together mentally/emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:15 PM
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He wrote in another comment that he’s never been single for more than two weeks, has multiple baby mamas and ex wives. Perhaps women see that as a red flag and that’s why he cannot find a good woman… because good women probably won’t go for a man like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:11 PM
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He wrote in another comment that he’s never been single for more than two weeks, has multiple baby mamas and ex wives. Perhaps women see that as a red flag and that’s why he cannot find a “decent” woman… because decent women probably won’t go for a man like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:11 PM
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Marriage was never natural. It was a contract between families to inherit goods, and fortune. that’s why it’s still a very legal thing in today’s world. Love wasn’t a thing that men or women cared about when it came to marriage, it was a duty. relationships are natural. But they come and go and solely survive based on people’s feelings which can change at any time. Marriage is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:03 PM
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So your examples are from videos with actors in them? Are you serious? lol And i never said attractive men are less likely to cheat. I said that cheating itself has more to do with character. Ugly men are not better people & if they want to cheat at some point, they will find a way to do it. I’ve seen many girls be appalled when they gave the ugly guy a chance and still got played. It’s naive to think that being ugly makes you more virtuous or have better values. You don’t seem to grasp this con…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:52 PM
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They want it yet it’s not happening? Is there a wave of men having surrogates and choosing to become single fathers? It’s very rare. Older rich dudes get married to hot young women who have allowances every day. I think a lot of you fail to realize many men in these positions don’t want their equal in women (older, less attractive) and will 100% a gold digger if she fits a certain standard of beauty and does her girlfriend/wife duties. They know what the deal is and are ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:29 PM
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Sure… but all of that, purposely bringing a child on this earth, in order for the help to raise them so you can secure your daddy money … sounds incredibly selfish. It sounds like that child is some sort of pawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:24 PM
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My last paragraph wasn’t about being ok with one parent households but more so that if a woman is THAT concerned about their fertility and desperately wants a child then it’s not like she can’t find a man that will give her that. Plenty of dudes will have kids without commitment. I don’t personally think it’s good or ideal at all. I was simply making a point. Also, i think that’s why i would personally go for adoption or fostering because at least you’re helping children that have no households …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:17 PM
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Bingo! He sounds like a mess of a man to be honest. Leaving all these kids & women behind to do god knows what to more women over there… hopefully not have more baby mamas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:23 PM
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The initial statement was “women would pick a cheater over a man with zero options” which isn’t accurate. Most women would prefer singleness over the two options and just have casual sex whenever they want or even a fwb. An attractive person who is loyal is also more attractive than a person with zero options. That’s probably what most people want, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:07 PM
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that statement wasn’t about you specifically but the sentiments/opinions men in this sub carry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:44 PM
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As long as you remain transparent and communicative about your expectations, most women will respect your honesty. When men get criticized, it’s usually because he made it seem like that was not a big deal then switched up on her when he realized she was serious about that boundary … which isn’t a rare occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:43 PM
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Ugly men can cheat. If he was able to bag me then he can eventually do the same thing again with another woman. Maybe he’ll have to put effort in… but he can still cheat. Being attractive or ugly has nothing to do with cheating - that is character trait. I don’t know one man who is dating an ugly woman just for the sake of not being cheated on. It’s typically due to a lack of options and not being able to secure an at least average/decent looking woman. Don’t lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:30 PM
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and men are not different. The woman that has no man interested in her is not attractive at all and most men, if given the choice, would still pick the attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:19 PM
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Most women would not pick a cheater. It’s just that in order to cheat you have to be attractive in some way. But attractiveness does not equal being a cheater. I could say the same and claim that men prefer a woman that cheats than a woman that has zero men interested in her because the reasons why no man wants her is also the reason why you probably won’t want her. You picking the woman that has qualities men want doesn’t mean you prefer cheaters. It’s a very bad comparison. Any man that is som…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:17 PM
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I mean, its still selfish. He wants money & that’s his only reason for having a child. He could go out there and build a life for himself & create his own wealth if he wants freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:52 PM
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Sure, but men don’t want that… Or else they would do it. They want a wife/girlfriend that will do all those things for them. Plus, having your children raised by nannies and people you’ve paid is not really ideal for a child’s development. It is likely for those types of kids to have resentment towards their parents. Lastly, being rich does not mean you can work less - especially if you want to keep a certain lifestyle and give your children that lifestyle & a secure future like sending them to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:50 PM
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So he doesn’t want any commitment, or relationship and his only reason to bring a human being to this earth is to make sure his “assets” are kept by offsprings. Why does that matter? He’s dead by that time anyway. It sounds like he just selfishly wants to keep his wealth to himself and using the offsprings as some sort of tool for that which is literally only for his ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:40 PM
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Most men don’t want surrogates lol. They want a woman that will be there to take care of said child. Especially if he’s successful and rich - he is busy and will need that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:34 PM
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I mean.. if actually like a guy i will also plan dates/activities. Do nice things for him & care for him. Plus, they get the same thing anyone in relationships get: intimacy (emotional, physical), companionship, etc… I think the key here is to actually date or pursue women who also show a certain level of intimacy by interest or reciprocity. Also if we’re talking traditional relationships i think men get wayyy more for that investment they make in the beginning. If a woman is a homemaker - this …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:28 PM
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Yeah, as a woman if i am being pursued i dont really care for fancy dates but i do care that a guy shows interest and is thoughtful. I’ve been on picnic dates that were incredibly romantic and cute and also very cheap, coffee/ice cream dates where we talked for our hours and had chemistry. I appreciate the act of planning something for us to spend time together and most women i know are the same. If a girl is too superficial then it’s probably a red flag and the man should move on. I feel like s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:20 PM
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Women are still aware and know that 47 is incredibly rare and carries more risk when it comes to pregnancy. However, as a woman in her late 20s i also know many women who aren’t necessarily bothered by being childfree and unmarried - there is much less stigma around this (amongst women) nowadays. Personally, i’ve always wanted to be a mom but if i don’t find a partner i don’t see it as the end of the world, i am open to fostering/adoption. I would want to be in a healthy relationship at some poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:01 PM
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I genuinely think they just dislike/hate women so they enjoy reminding them of “the wall”. It’s more so to validate their own feelings towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:52 PM
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someone not wanting to have sex right away =/= entitled to commitment. You are such a weirdo for having this mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:38 PM
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Exactly lol… they contradict themselves. One day its “withholding sex is bad” the next its “we want women with low body counts” …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:36 PM
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those are two separate double standards and can be addressed separately. Thanks for not actually answering my question directly. I’ll just move on from this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:27 AM
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I think your explanation is fair, i understand it better now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:25 AM
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I mean, like i said, im not promiscuous myself and think its best for both parties to be that way. My questioning is specifically related to the double standard of men engaging in casual sex being applauded & women being seen as lacking self respect. So i can answer your questions but there’s no double standard or ways i see things differently for men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:21 AM
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That is an insane story 🤣😅 Yeah, no thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:33 PM
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the more likely it is that she gave low quality men who did not fully respect her boundaries access to her body. men who in many cases didn't value her at all. Yeah, i think that goes back to one of the questions i asked. It sounds like it’s mostly because of how men view women they have casual relationships with. They don’t respect them therefore that must mean that woman does not respect herself. women often feel used after a hook up, why do you think that is? Because of what i said earlier. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:31 PM
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What about engaging in gifting money with a gender you are sexually attracted to inherently correlates to a lack of self respect when it comes to men? these men are paying to access porn - not to actually engage with anyone. There’s a difference. If he’s donated X amount of money to women he was genuinely into - who respected his boundaries & all. How is that a form of disrespect to himself? I wouldn’t call it disrespect to themselves… I would just see him as sexually thirsty (especially if he h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:11 PM
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Completely agree with this take
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:54 PM
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I’ve always been curious about this. What about engaging in sexual activities with a gender you are sexually attracted to inherently correlates to a lack of self respect when it comes to women? If she’s had sex with X amount of men she was genuinely into - who respected her boundaries & all. How is that a form of disrespect to herself? Or is it because men don’t respect women they engage with sexually (casual sex) that it becomes a lack of self respect? I am genuinely asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:25 PM
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What is a high body count to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:21 PM
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This is all just rooted in ego
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:20 PM
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I think it’s highly related so any forms of social media. Not any type of social hierarchy. First type of social media is obviously dating apps, which are overwhelmingly male & where it’s way harder for them to get matches which ultimately fucks up their self esteem in the long run. Or the content that is online to remind men of all the things they should feel insecure about. That specific thing is something that isn’t talked about enough in my opinion & men don’t seem to realize how much toxici…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 11:55 PM
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Oh well… that sucks for the girl then :/ I’ve heard these stories and always thought some men were just kind of assholes but told myself if that’s how they feel whatever… but now this explains it lol but point remains.. just because you feel euphoric after doesn’t mean women enjoyed the act any less. I feel like it’s a weird assumption to make considering the way we orgasm and experience sex is completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 12:14 PM
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I think men who genuinely believe most women only fantasize about celebs and think they are “top tier” because of some “high status man” gave her attention isn’t any more rooted in reality…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:42 AM
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Maybe the looks part.. because physical attraction is pretty much what attracts two people at first. But the money/status thing isn’t. I think if you have it , it helps, but if you don’t, you’re not doomed and it would be stupid to automatically assume it. I think the only time it can hinder you is if you really don’t do anything with your life which isn’t attractive. But then again, the term hobosexual exists and that’s the proof that even broke homeless dudes get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:38 AM
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Damn, that’s really it… No reason to be moral if they are not rewarded with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:34 AM
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ok even the person you’ve been on 30 dates with isn’t down to hang out because they have a migraine , how is that an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 12:53 AM
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Honestly i’ve head men say they get really “turned off” after sex and just need time alone or are low energy. Plus, women can have back to back orgasms and men can’t.. that’s for a reason. You take more time to get past that feeling but the woman could probably keep going for hours. I don’t think what happens after define anything. If she is able to get off, then she probably really likes it. Our bodies are just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:21 PM
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This is a really weird take. If i go on a first date or seeing someone new i want to be at my best. Not necessarily “instagramable” but not sick, ill or mentally overwhelmed. Every time ive decided to see guys while feeling that way the energy was off & they didn’t like it. Not wanting to be around a man while being physically in pain has nothing to do with vulnerability either. I don’t think any man who sees things like this would be in a healthy relationship either. Boundaries are a thing and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:14 PM
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Maybe they are just being honest and you’re overthinking it? If they follow through and see you that means they like you. Sometimes you just don’t want to go on dates or be potentially intimate with someone because you’re tired, having a bad week or having allergies (im guessing feeling somewhat sick)… That all makes sense to me. I’m not sure why my potential soul mate would disappear because im feeling bad one week and want some time alone. Most people want to show up as their best self when fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:09 PM
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“Hypergamic behaviour” isn’t really something the general public discusses, even less older generations… But i agree with the whole abuse thing. I feel like a lot of people say boys are easier to raise but it really just means “i have to worry less” as if boys/men cannot be victimized, which then creates more men who are dealing with trauma and don’t know how to process it. It’s harmful. But i have a question… Why is your question framed towards mothers specifically? Do fathers talk about this? …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:54 PM
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What do you mean by “Putting themselves on display”? For what and who?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:30 PM
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And i am saying that on average, they haven’t been able to if were speaking on a societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:08 AM
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Nope. I think men are great and masculinity is something i love as a woman. But history is history and i don’t sugarcoat things. What i say is not false. Women are becoming more educated and starting to be in more leadership positions and that’s because equality exists. That’s literally it. 100 years from now even more women will be in these positions. That doesn’t mean men are less capable or worse leaders, but it’s true that certain factors related to oppression were the biggest reasons why wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:04 AM
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You’re the one implying that women can’t be leaders, i never said men can’t be leaders because i don’t have any contempt towards men. I simply explained the reason women weren’t able to have advancement/leadership positions. You specifically said that men being the pursuers is the very reason why , and only added the “bigger more violent” part after i mentioned that men have a biological advantage in that regards. You’re clearly aren’t arguing in good faith here. You never said so in your origin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:51 AM
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Now that women can, they do it though. If women couldn’t or didn’t want to there would be zero women leaders or CEOs but clearly that’s false.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:44 AM
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Yes that. And also that there is a link between romantic pursuit and leadership of society and businesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:43 AM
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Nope, men being bigger and more violent literally explains all the advantages they’ve had in history. It’s the same reason why most of these men in charge are also white, it’s because they had ways of oppressing and keeping other groups down while they made the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:42 AM
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Provide specific sources please
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:40 AM
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And you can go back to my first comment which explains why!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:39 AM
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You’re just making things up because they make sense in your own head, not because they hold any truth. There are so many other things that explain why men have held most positions of power (such as discrimination, control, lack of human rights towards women). How can you prove 100% that those things don’t hold more power and provide more of an explanation than men pursuing women romantically? Think critically & not based on the emotions of contempt you have towards women. Be logical and answer …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:39 AM
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No, most men are leaders because they are able to control women physically and kept them from having rights for most of history and women are just now catching up. It’s not because they have so many wonderful qualities and women lack these specific qualities. Men have a biological advantage where they are able to oppress and control women in a way women can’t do to men and men have taken advantage of it for most of history. That’s literally it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:33 AM
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Based on which scientific research?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:30 AM
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The idea of pursuing is highly sociological. Plenty of businesses & companies are being lead by women and women are growing in the fields everyday. The only thing that has kept women from doing so, where a lack of rights. Like i said in a previous comment, the very company youre speaking on was founded by a woman. For you not to even take this has an hint that maybe your argument is flawed just shows you’re biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:28 AM
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Not really, your point consists of relating two points that aren’t necessarily related. The person who is making those policy changes and in charge of the company is a woman. So this alone proves that your point is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:26 AM
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You think it’s brave. I simply look at it as a decision that has repercussions. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:27 PM
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Okay, and the Kardashian are also from the US, yet it was ok to use them as an example? Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:20 PM
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Huh, many of them do. Some of my guy friends literally don’t make the first move just because women come up to them all the time. It would take some supermodel for them to want to make a move. And they still get pretty girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:35 PM
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If it was so bad, the company wouldn’t have ever become what it is today. All apps and websites change their policies and how it works based on what makes them more money. These dating apps are also overwhelmingly male therefore allowing them to interact more with women probably makes more sense from a business perspective. They will spend more time on there and swipe because they can actually talk to their matches immediately rather than the woman who probably has 100s of men waiting for her to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:31 PM
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The idea of pursuing is very much a societal construct. Our animal brains just seeks sex and procreation. Women would seek sex just as much if that wasn’t so frowned upon. They may seek it with specific men, but still. Pursuing, courting, and all that crap, is definitely societal. If anything, my theory is that romance and courting was created so that the “top” men wouldn’t be the only ones getting women. Then we had marriages which helped create financial ties between families, and dowries, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:22 PM
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Women are passive in dating because they can be. Men aren’t because they can’t. One group seeks sex more than the other which creates these dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:19 PM
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Considering less than 100 years ago women couldn’t open their own bank accounts, it’s kind of normal. But plenty of businesses have been created since and women are more educated than ever. They’re catching up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:15 PM
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Did you know that the founder of bumble is a woman? One of the most popular and successful dating apps ever. Sounds like women can be great leaders and CEOs if they can create such successful businesses. That feature was probably changed because dating apps are overwhelmingly male and it probably screws up the amount of likes or messages men get resulting in lower amounts. But that’s just because women probably just have too many options. Allowing men to message first will probably allow for mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:12 PM
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“therefore to get one makes them brave” were never in my comments. The fact that you have to lie is pitiful. Doing something emotionally/physically painful isn’t inherently heroic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:57 PM
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Non sequitur
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:48 PM
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I was speaking of online influencers. The Kardashians are not influencers… they are hollywood celebrities. They got famous of having an actual TV show. I am speaking of actual influencers, who do youtube, instagram; etc… Such as Monet Mcmichael, Alix Earle, Hudda Katthan, Whitney Simmons.. They mostly do fashion, makeup, lifestyle or fitness content. My point was that, the OF girls aren’t famous because of women. Most women don’t follow or know these girls, they follow women who make content aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:27 PM
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I hate when people make exaggerated statements. Women who abort aren’t considered heros and it is a traumatic and very emotionally painful thing for women to go through. You sound ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:10 PM
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Re-read my comments again and stop pretending you’re too dense to get the point. Clearly youre doing iton purpose so i’ll move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:18 AM
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They should. Currently if women give birth to a baby but didn’t consent to sex, they would still be responsible for the child and with laws around abortion changing then it’s also a conversation to have. But 100% yes to answer your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:22 PM
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I simply said that as an adult, there are consequences and the best thing to do is abstain from it if you want zero consequences. If the main post was about women, i would say the same thing. The topic was focused on men so i gave my stance on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:47 PM
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I am saying there isn’t a double standard on what men or women are told which is what you were arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:30 PM
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Women have always and still are criticized, it’s still OK for people to tell them that because it happens all the time. We are now just also telling men the same thing… but generally speaking, men are still allowed to be more reckless sexually without much criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:10 PM
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which ever works best for them. But i would advise him that if he wants children and a family with that woman he will have to allow her to work less to do the childbearing and he should still be financially stable for that reason, at least for that timeframe she is pregnant/giving birth. However, in both cases, if she’s a good woman i have no say in how they handle their finances as long as they are both satisfied. Obviously the first one. Looks fade, personality doesn’t. That all depends on if …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:47 PM
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Millions of men don’t pay it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:39 PM
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Women are generally encouraged to abstain more, remain sexually pure or are told that their value as a person typically revolves around that. So this idea that telling men not to ejaculate in a woman is somehow a double standard is laughable. If anything, the woman will always get criticized the most in all of this. Whether she aborts or ends up a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:36 PM
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Unless they were married or he signed a birth certificate, then no, probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:10 PM
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I mean… Like i said, the surgeon could just walk away and chose not the be in the child’s life like millions of men already do. It’s already a thing that happens. Some men take responsibility and will look after the child but many don’t. Im not sure what is your point. It’s not like men are forced to be in children’s lives. Most of the time they would have to sign the birth certificate to be responsible which means they consented and recognized it was their child while the pregnancy was going on…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:52 PM
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Women carry. Whether she has an abortion or keeps it, she’ll suffer the consequences. Both experiences affect women. Abortions can be pretty traumatic for lots of women even if they don’t speak about it. Telling a man “don’t ejaculate in her” or “abstain if you really don’t want kids” is just logical if it’s really a situation you want to avoid. You don’t carry and won’t suffer the same level of consequences. Women inherently do because the fetus grows inside of them. Besides, like i said, deadb…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:48 PM
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People tell women that everyday. That’s why the topic of female sexuality, slut shaming, virginity have always been hot topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:36 PM
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I don’t understand your last paragraph at all. A doctor knocks up a girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:34 PM
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Why are you acting like there aren’t millions of deadbeat fathers who know nothing about their kids and don’t want to be in their lives? This is already common. I personally think that if you are an adult and having sex, you know the consequences of this and that there is always a chance of getting someone pregnant & they may keep it. Abstinence is a thing if you really don’t want to end in that position.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:48 PM
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Just shut up if you can’t take questioning after making a statement. This is a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:02 PM
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They are though, thin women ARE the beauty standard and are the ones who are mostly pursued by men. Younger women also are more pursued by men. Feminine/submissive women get married more often. These things all prove men are free and do act on their standards every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:26 AM
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Literally i’ve never had that conversation or stated that. Maybe those women aren’t being as serious as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:23 AM
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But what about being a man causes envy? I am a woman, i am just curious to understand this perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:06 AM
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Romantic relationships are highly personal and anyone is free to have any standard they wish including men. It’s ridiculous to call someone a “narcissistic individualist” for acknowledging something so logical. This term is just thrown around for anything nowadays… Like men are completely free to act on their standards just like women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:05 AM
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That’s true lol… Most of my friends that are now married and moms weren’t the good, nice, agreeable girls. They are women that explored, had their wild phase and dated a lot. That’s how they found their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:42 AM
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in 2024… lots of “whores” actually end up in long term relationships and marriages lol. Plenty of adult film stars are for example. Just a thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:36 AM
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I am not blinding myself to the answer, i simply see things differently. I don’t have to value what you do or agree with your point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:32 AM
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Just because you believe certain traits are enviable traits doesn’t mean other people envy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:36 PM
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Every toxic couples that i’ve personally seen where the woman endured a lot of shitty things, weren’t with above average men, like at all… I’ve dated mostly attractive men and never experienced any of this. I also never got the feeling they expected me to endure a certain treatment because they were attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:30 PM
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I envy anyone that’s rich, whether a man or woman lol… but is that really exclusive to women? You think most men don’t envy the top 1%?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:20 PM
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What do they envy specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:19 PM
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What parts?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:19 PM
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No, their life expectancy is just longer because they are healthier. They are less sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:18 PM
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I specified what type of laws, you can read the comments again if you are confused. I feel like you’re purposely derailing the conversation so i’ll move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:06 PM
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I mean if you take not having laws that prohibit violence against a certain group of people and not having human rights as somehow being something that benefits said women then i have a hard time understanding your logic. There isn’t any punishment in such case. Maybe outrage from other countries but that’s meaningless to the people actually living through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:25 PM
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But how are women thinking men owe them money just for existing? Is there some system in place where random men are forced to send women money? Also, child soldiers are mostly recruited by older male soldiers and militant groups. I am from a country where this has happened in the past. It’s not the child brides, or women that have any say or influence on such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:20 PM
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I don’t think feminist necessarily speak out because they inherently don’t like being women or would rather be men, they just may not like specific things in society that happen to them because they are women which is different. For example: Im black and i love being black, i like being African and my culture and wouldn’t want to be european… Doesn’t mean i can’t speak on how i don’t like how the world views black people or africans compared to white people or europeans. I don’t see how one thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:16 PM
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Why do you reduce it to “poor”? These countries are not inherently poor, they have specific laws that prohibits women from having certain rights and refuse to criminalize violence made against them. You would want to live in a country where you are the subject of this? Can you explain the logic behind it if so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:02 PM
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But you wouldn’t want to be woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:54 PM
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I mean, as a woman, i can agree that i don’t. I don’t really think feminism distorted my view on anything. The only thing about men that i possibly envy is that they can have a biological child without having to give birth.. kinda scares me, but i guess its part of life. But that’s about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:53 PM
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When you say having option not to work, are you referring to being a stay at home wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:51 PM
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You’re speaking as if there are places in the world where women have rights still, child brides exist, and femicides are high. There definitely is a high amount of genuine hatred for women in the world. Statement like “Women think men owe them just for existing” doesn’t prove hate, you’re just speaking of emotions. Although, there definitely are areas and conversations to have about different ways women harm men, most of your comment just comes off emotionally driven because of how exaggerated t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:50 PM
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where did you get this info?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:41 PM
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Yes, more like when it comes to having romantic/sexual options.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:38 PM
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So you think the average woman envies men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:35 PM
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are you a straight man?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:25 PM
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interesting because statistically speaking, married men do get more promotions and advance more in their career. They also are generally healthier and live longer. Maybe they get Dad bods or something but it doesn’t necessarily mean they are less healthy than single men their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:16 PM
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Apples and oranges. No one said having preferences on who you date is toxic masculinity. You’re still mixing up every topic together as if they are related. Truly traditional men date traditional women every day. I don’t see anyone complaining or encouraging those couples to break up. You’re exaggerating. Go date a traditional woman if it’s your preference, no one will stop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:07 PM
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Fresh N fit are calculated the same way reality TV is calculated. Their point is to gain attention through controversy, same as reality stars. You’re thinking very literally instead of looking at the big picture here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:02 PM
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People just don’t become successful out of thin air is what he’s saying… You have to understand how to hook people and get them talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 06:28 AM
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This isn’t a question of liberation. Men have rights. A woman having a specific dating standard doesn’t affect your rights as a man or human being. You’re mixing every issue together when they have nothing to do with each other. Women needed liberation because of voting, having bank accounts or credit cards were not possible. It wasn’t a question of standard. If you think traditional standards are objectifying then you are free not to live a traditional lifestyle, that’s called freedom of choice…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 06:22 AM
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I don’t have to change my post for you. You can move along.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 05:01 AM
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Most refreshing comment in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:32 AM
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Can you give examples of the effort you speak of? (genuine question)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:29 AM
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So women don’t work?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:21 AM
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I feel like that’s more american culture than anything tbh, especially in specific cities
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:14 AM
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Influencers that are truly popular amongst women don’t do OF, or sex work in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:13 AM
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None of this contradicts her comment. they can stop. They can cut their wifi, or credit cards and not buy that content. OF is very knew and most men in humanity did not need it for survival or to live fulfilling lives. Yall need to realize there’s a world outside of this. Caring so much about OF is such a first world problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:07 AM
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What about any of this is a moral concern though? I couldn’t care less if a man has specific expectations. As a matter of fact, most men i’ve dated did vet me & had expectations for me which is fine. You’re allowed to do that. Expectations and standards are personal so i’m not sure what i should hold another woman accountable for and tell her she needs to go for someone who doesn’t show behaviour she likes? And why does that mean anything about my own character? Doesn’t make sense to me. I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:59 AM
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Men just have different needs to be met. There’s a reason why they are more likely to cheat when their wives are pregnant, get older or get sick… These differences don’t necessarily mean men love more genuinely which is the delusion many men believe in nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:40 AM
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right… he sounds a bit delusional and probably spends too much time online.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:43 PM
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Clubs can be harmful for other reasons (alcohol, drug spiking, safety) but for cheating? Not really. Most women i know who have cheated weren’t clubbing. If you don’t like the lifestyle and want a partner who’s the same that’s perfectly fine… But if you think forbidding clubbing will prevent a cheater from cheating you are seriously wrong. I’d say if you’re with someone who likes clubbing then they shouldn’t have issues going together with you, but if they persist on never going out with you the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:38 PM
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thats more of a personality thing though... plenty of people do enjoy these things and go out for that reason
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:30 PM
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Not talk… get a cute outfit on, take pics, dance, get tipsy, have a good time and maybe finesse some free drinks. I personally wouldn’t feel comfortable going home with some random guy but clubbing can be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:24 PM
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In my opinion, most men probably do. Some women probably do but most don’t. I’ve gone clubbing countless times, im now in my late 20s and not once went home with a guy or even started a relationship that way. I’ve also always gone out and went home with my friends, meaning none of us leave with men to hook up. But i know other women are also different. I like going out to dance, getting tipsy and having a good time but i wouldn’t feel comfortable hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:21 PM
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mhmmm… men have groups where they share and expose nudes of their wives/gf. I’ve seen men on here give advice to other men to be physically violent with their women in order to remain in control in the relationship (it was the seduction sub). One of the most popular male influencers of today is literally a pimp who’s suspected of trafficking women and admitted scamming them and encouraged other young men to follow his steps by selling his courses (andrew tate). And he’s admired by millions of me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:04 PM
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basically RP men in a nutshell
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:49 PM
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Paternity fraud implies that you could potentially have a baby with a bear…. where is the logic? The premise of the question is that both can cause physical danger, if you have any reason to fear women physically, whether it’s due to SA, or anything else, then sure … You can answer a woman. The rest is just illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:11 PM
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This isn’t really a simp (the video & guy you’re describing) this is a man that’s just pandering in order to get in women’s pants lol “Simp” has a very negative connotation but also is used to describe men who simply do nice things for their girlfriends. I think as long as he respects himself, being sweet and kind, is attractive. But if you’re insecure and a pushover, then of course it’s unattractive and you’ll most likely attract women who’ll take advantage of those flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:55 AM
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how? You’re talking about women needing to be saved …from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:47 AM
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When women say this it isn’t about being eaten… It’s because a bear can’t SA you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:46 AM
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Or they would never even be in a position to be “saved” if men never existed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:30 AM
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You’re funny
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:30 AM
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Im pretty sure we equally know nothing about this, unless you work in that field.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:12 PM
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And who robbed it in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:09 PM
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i forgot about that part 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:31 PM
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Thank you for bringing OP back to reality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:01 PM
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I’m not American so…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:59 PM
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Sure, it’s an argument because it’s true. I’ve seen the consequences. That doesn’t mean there aren’t more important reasons not to implement those rules which you’ve given.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:55 PM
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You are downplaying what is said in male spaces big time and also exaggerating what is being said about men… Unless we’re talking about Jeffrey Dahmer; i’ve never seen anyone say the quote “Men will eat you alive”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:53 PM
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Women haven’t been left alone because men will never leave women alone. Even if it’s strictly for sex… Men will make sure to have women around them. It’s not because women wouldn’t want to be on their own or because they couldn’t survive on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:48 PM
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And who exactly are stripping these Afghanistan women of their rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:40 PM
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Sure, that’s your opinion & it wasn’t like i was fighting for it to become the law or something… I personally experienced a teacher getting this type of content leaked to the school when i was in highschool and things get very messy. I wouldn’t even suggest a teacher doing it for themselves because it will ultimately affect the relationship with your students once they’ve seen you in that context & unfortunately OF is pretty popular & there’s no way to truly “use due diligence” when something is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:32 PM
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Right, they are annoyed by women lumping all men together yet do the same every time. It’s unbearable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:38 PM
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Honestly, the answers you have would not be considered rude, or condescending to me. It’s perfectly fine. Those aren’t the comment i’m talking about. I’ve seen: they are ghetto, loud, argumentative, masculine, that dark skin is not attractive, etc… Personally, i’ve dated interracially myself and would never judge a man for it. We live in a culture that’s diverse so it’s bound to happen. I was just explaining that some of these insecurities don’t necessarily come from thin air. People definitely …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:07 PM
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Exactly… So that’s why i said that. I don’t think doing OF is wrong but i know that in the event students find it - Even the teacher’s relationship with their students change. It’s definitely something to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:48 PM
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Not really, it’s their business. But how can you really make sure it’s never found?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:45 PM
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I think schools should just have rules for their employees for this. If you sign a work contract then you cannot do this ___. To avoid these things in the first place. Unfortunately, since kids have access to internet, i don’t think it’s appropriate for a teacher to have this type of content. If one student finds it, the whole school will know pretty quickly and that’s going to cause further issues. This happened when i was in highschool, they were just nude photos, but it was a big scandal and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:39 PM
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There aren’t “passport sisters” tho… im specifically talking about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:27 PM
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If they continuously do then yes, they have poor boundaries and should learn from it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:15 PM
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The man in the friendzone for a year just has poor boundaries and may be a people pleaser. If someone rejects you can walk away instead of pretending to be their friend in hopes to sleep with them. That’s called having ulterior motives then playing the victim card.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:28 PM
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I don’t know if that’s super true or justifies certain comments. I’m lighter skinned and heard black men put down dark skin women as a way to compliment me unprovoked many times. They do volunteer the answer from what i’ve seen. And even if they do get asked, there is a way to be respectful, don’t you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:46 PM
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okay then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:20 AM
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anway
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:32 AM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:31 AM
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really? I thought this was like… informative information that support men or talk about their issues lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:49 AM
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The thing is… Women aren’t interested in being wives to men who will still engage with those women despite looking down on them. As a woman who has a low body count and waited for a long time to be with a man sexually, I’ve realized most of these opinions are rooted in ego rather than truly seeing sex as something intimate or sacred. Men both value promiscuous women and non-promiscuous women - just in different ways, both just have different roles in order to serve men’s needs. That’s why many w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:45 AM
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I’ll check it out thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:16 AM
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Cardi B didn’t rape anyone, or was accused of rape by anyone, and i’ve definitely seen people call her out for what she said about stealing from men. It’s wrong. And i provided you an example, you are free to read bell hooks or do real research for different authors. You sound extremely biased and seem to have your mind made up. I gave you examples, if your only response is “NO” then the back and forth is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:13 AM
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Im not sure where you got this from. There’s sooo many different type of feminists, branches of it and all of them criticize each other and many call out each other too. Heck, im black and although i do read feminist literature, and enjoy certain documentaries, i know there’s a lot of racism in the history of feminism which i can’t support. The first book i read that was about feminism was by bell hooks and was about men and talked about how women harm men & dismiss/abandon them when they are vu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:04 AM
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That’s sad… But i feel like this means men also are learning what feminism & men’s issues from those same platforms which isn’t better. Those same things (books, documentaries, etc) exists for men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:55 AM
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But you’re not a woman and you don’t know what type of advice we get lol. You’re assuming that talking points that are mostly relevant in RP spaces or manosphere is most of the advice we get. Personally, i’ve never ever been asked by any man i’ve ever dated my body count so they would never know whether or not i a slept around. Like i said… Most people believe adults who are consenting can do what they want. I know women who have slept around and are married and happy, i know women who haven’t t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:50 AM
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Is it hard though? because if a man is only there for that it will probably be obvious.. men aren’t good at faking genuine interest (for long). I think it’s more of a “if she’s down cool.. but if she walks away i don’t really care cause at least i got sex” which is different than having difficulty walking away. It’s more of an indifference. Also, as a woman i don’t necessarily see sex as something easy to walk away from because many men might want to sleep with me. If anything, if i get there wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:31 AM
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Right… I hate that feminist = misandrist. They are not the same. I’ve read a few books by feminists like Bell hooks and they actually helped me a lot have better relationships with men & understand them more because it called out how women harm men too. This whole argument sounds very black & white and that type of thinking just fuels ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:22 AM
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There’s feminist literature, documentaries, books, films… I mean the list goes on? Tiktok and podcasts is quite literally the laziest way to learn anything and i doubt women who truly are feminists learned much from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:19 AM
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and OP basically experienced the same thing but male version. I think good sex just keeps people around longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:11 AM
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how come being told not to sleep around, for instance, doesn't lead to not sleeping around, Because it’s 2024 & we live in a much more “sex positive” society? The average person just believes if two grown adults are consenting then it’s their business how much they have sex. Not everyone sees sex the same & every woman doesn’t have the same sexual habits. You don’t know whether or not she’s sleeping around - this is her experience not a statement from all women. She might very well not sleep aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:59 PM
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I think you’re not understanding - shed been told that MEN should pursue and went against that,approached and pursued, and realized that the statement is true due to her experience. In this case, she DIDN’T do what she was told. And cool.. Men and Women typically get different dating advice so you may have heard different things than her. Doesn’t mean it’s not true. Personally, i don’t mind paying for things or showing interest first but i do think letting a man pursue you is a good way to vet w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:40 PM
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I don’t think it’s just that people are saying its bad but that her experience told her that men don’t necessarily value that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:45 PM
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It’s okay to show interest but don’t be super vulnerable too soon. I totally relate. One time this guy told me how good & wanted i made him feel but would lie to me and be super passive aggressive with me from that point on. He would take my niceness and interest for him for granted and got comfortable. I think keeping boundaries as you’re getting to know them and being transparent is important. I still show interest though (flirting, compliments, etc) but being super open with my feelings and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:30 PM
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You think this is some kind of crazy coincidence? I literally never said such thing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:02 PM
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Doctors are wrong all the time yet you’re using terms they created to make statements on disorders they researched and know the ins and out of? What exactly proves that you’d know more about this than trained professionals other than delusion? Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:37 PM
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Or you can give me examples…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:27 AM
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All men who marry other cultures and go live abroad aren’t passport bros. We’re speaking of a very specific group of men here, and they are indeed online, advertising themselves going to foreign countries sleeping with tons of different women. That commenter was correct. Normal men who find genuine relationships abroad do not act, speak, or think like them. Im a foreign woman so i know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:20 AM
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He provided real data… you provided some random anecdotal story that cant be fact checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:14 AM
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That’s cause they think paying for the first date means the whole relationship will be transactional and the woman is a completely entitled brat who will never contribute to anything. Most couples i know split bills on income and have equal relationships but these men probably haven’t gotten to that point yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:12 AM
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I don’t think people have issues with interracial, intercultural relationships. Millions of men are in them and nobody cares. However, passport bros deliberately degrade western women and constantly criticize them and parade foreign women on the internet to further push their narrative. Obviously, people will not respond well to that. Receiving backlash in this case isn’t jealousy. They are looking for those reactions which is why they make their presence known online. But in real life… So many …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:39 AM
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where is the research that proves this? Also if everyone has it, it just means both men and women are equally guilty of whatever OP said… but i’ll wait for your proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:26 AM
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Which feminist organization push this specific narrative exactly? I’d like to know. PUAs and male gurus make millions of single men. They constantly make bait content to sell some course, it’s pretty popular amongst younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:24 AM
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What do you think the logical answer is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:22 AM
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Right, im not sure where the delusion comes from… these women are probably just as, if not more interested in their money. Maybe they just say things these men like to hear but they definitely have their own motives when going for these dudes. Also, lots of these guys have a preference for asian women which have nothing to do with “valuing intelligence” lol, they just find them hot/exotic.. and the girl has her own benefits so it works. That’s literally it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:09 PM
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There are lots that do it but i think they are realizing it’s frowned upon by women. I personally do go through a man’s following list if i’m seeing/talking to him romantically. If it’s all girls that post suggestive photos or even adult film stars, i will immediately be turned off and most likely end things. And yes - typically the girls will have a specific look, safe to assume its their type.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:02 PM
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Your messed up relationship is just your messed up relationship.. not the whole world. Both men and women can be narcissistic or have BPD. Most people don’t have these personality disorders and mental illnesses. Please touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:56 PM
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Men thinking they aren’t hive-minded themselves and pointing the finger is what’s actually funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:48 PM
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Not really, PUAs and tons of male dating advice basically encourage men to do this. Typically men who do this ghost, don’t communicate and exhibit other behaviours that can be viewed as toxic. I wouldn’t say it’s most men though.. Def not 85%. That’s extreme, but it’s a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:29 PM
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Those are just tik toks I’ve seen lol but i think that question was purposely created to start unnecessary arguments online and divide men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:03 PM
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I mean… there’s tons and tons of spaces where black women are criticized and compared to other races of women by men, especially black men. I am a black woman, but canadian and i think this is very prevalent in american culture. Even being on socials, and having visited the states, having family there - itself pretty clear that black women deal with tons of stereotypes and criticism and these insecurities aren’t just made up but most likely a result of observation and personal experiences. Here …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:53 PM
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Men are great for survival and as a woman i’d probably pick a man too, for their strength….. But men are indeed more impulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:17 PM
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alright then
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:53 PM
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I was replying to the previous comment. And personally, i don’t think it’s either of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:49 PM
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even the ones i don’t want still want to just hook up sir… tons of those too… youre funny
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:49 PM
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Right, same for me! I dont get how out of touch men on here are 😭 like there’s definitely girls that jump from relationship to relationship but i wouldn’t say it’s the majority of women. I’ll easily go 6+ months without dates and only put myself out there when i genuinely want someone.. even then im not going to just hook up with random guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:40 PM
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the ones who just want to fool around or hook up are present at a higher rate though…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:26 PM
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I think a lot of men are projecting when they think like you. You would never be single and always sleep around if you had options therefore you think that’s what most women are doing. That’s literally it. Going 6+ months without men isn’t hard & most likely safer than always engaging with random men from apps or elsewhere. You can also be affectionate with your family and close friends which is something men can do if they want. Women typically are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:04 PM
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You don’t really need to be a master manipulator to cheat, and sure, the slip ups is usually how you find out you’re being cheated on or lied to but generally not being cheated on is really about trust. You can only trust that person not to do it. Avoiding red flags and vetting is important before you give someone that trust but you’d be surprised by the amount of seemingly good caring partners cheat. Anyways, i don’t think we completely disagree on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:19 AM
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What my point is… Even if the pro athlete has more opportunity, it doesn’t absolve the average man from cheating which they already do. Do you disagree with that? And since most women will not date or marry these rich athletes, it’s not that relevant. The successful men around me are like guys who studied hard and have good jobs, not pro athletes and celebs. Many women who date these uber successful and rich dudes trade the unfaithfulness in order to have a lifestyle and aren’t on here complaini…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:17 PM
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That has nothing to do with attraction. Children are most likely to be abused (in that way) by someone they know… does that mean they are attracted to them? What a weird argument. That’s only a thing because abusers seek familiarity in order to get away with what they do, not because the victim of that abuse somehow wanted it. This is such an odd thing to agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:49 PM
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I mean, bears are afraid of fire and loud noises and are less smart. I also know id have to just hide my food to make sure they don’t try and steal it or attack me for it. That’s what you do when you go camping. I don’t think it’s that men are all dangerous at all, but if by any chance he is, there’s virtually no way for me, a small woman, to defend myself, plus he’s smart so i cannot use certain tactics like id use on an animals. That’s the way i see it. If i could pick the man, i would choose …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:41 PM
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Honestly, i’ve seen countless videos of men being asked if their daughters or wives were stuck in the woods with a bear or man they still chose the bear. Are they also irrational and misandrist? It’s also a man that designed the question… I guess as a rage bait, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:32 PM
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It’s not disingenuous. There will always be opportunities to cheat - even the guy that works at target, in his 2, 5 or 10 year relationship will most likely have opportunities to cheat. As someone who dates men, i think this is a very silly argument that doesn’t prove much. I’ve only dated average dudes, so have my friends, and many of us got cheated on. Most women also aren’t meeting men like tiger woods everyday unlike this sub seems to think. OP’s argument was that even average men cheat whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:19 PM
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emphasis on projection
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:54 PM
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I don’t necessarily think this is true for every man. But i think the resentment you speak of for some other guys might be towards women in general. Like he’s mad that he had to do that in order to find a girl so he dislikes women in general because of it - which ultimately means he’ll resent or treat the girl he is with bad at some point. Again, i dont think it’s true for all men but i have dated men who exhibited this behaviour. If a man resents women in general it’s usually a red flag bc it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:36 PM
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Sure, but let’s be real… are cheaters usually honest? The whole premise of cheating is lying and manipulating another person in order to have their own needs met so most will just lie. Sure, some make it more obvious than others and it’s important to be aware… but i don’t think there’s a way to ever be sure or fully confident about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:18 PM
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The guy at target can cheat with his cute coworker.. tiger woods can cheat with a beautiful model. But ultimately, the result is the same. Cheating is cheating. Plenty of regular dudes, with regular jobs cheat every day. There’s not really a way to prevent that. I think she’s saying that men often say that if given the opportunity, they would cheat bc of their sex drive, so realistically speaking - unless you take a man with zero qualities - you can be cheated on. Maybe his status will allow him…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:58 PM
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As a woman… If an “unattractive” guy was able to get with me, chances are he can get another woman. He’s probably not completely undesirable as a person. So if he wants to cheat, he’ll eventually be able to. It all comes down to will, and who he is. I don’t think attractiveness plays that much of a role… plenty of unattractive men cheat as soon as they have the chance. No need for prostitutes either. I think that whole argument is a bit stupid. I’ve met attractive men that were nowhere near fboy…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:53 PM
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i don’t think it’s that they care less about sexual attraction - they just care less about sexual attention. There’s a difference. A girl could seem modest and be completely different behind closed doors & really promiscuous and/or sexual. She might choose to wear certain things because she doesn’t want to be viewed a certain way. She could still 100% attract most men she wants to sexually anyway - it’s just that she will be perceived differently in public. Another may wear more revealing clothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:44 PM
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Yes women ovulate & their libido is higher during that time (i am a woman so i know) but i’ve never heard that women wear more revealing clothing during that time in order to have more male attention. Do you have any proof or link to a study on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:34 PM
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these men are delusional 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:31 PM
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Not really, there are plenty of reconstructed families who are happy and live better with the spouse they met outside of their previous relationship where they had a child. I don’t think single mother = doesn’t value the importance of two parent household. There could be so many reasons why someone would have to separate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:07 PM
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i really enjoyed reading this exchange, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 09:36 PM
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To each their own, i’m sorry you had a bad experience. But statistically speaking, most people benefit from it and the amount of people who get worse from it is very small & could be due to malpractice/negligence or bad service - which can happen in any field. You mentioned a priest, and how many people have had terrible experiences with those? Some people have had serious complications and injuries from chiropractors too. By your logic, these wouldn’t these be scams too? Anyway, perhaps we just…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:59 PM
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Have you been to therapy? If so how long? And i’m christian, i’ve also gotten so much better because of the gym & my faith. I don’t discredit the benefit of other practices. I just think therapy can help people too. I never called therapy medicine either. It’s just a tool that can provide guidance & help while working through different types of issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:59 PM
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No… actually i was saying that their therapist telling them to focus more on others wasn’t necessarily a bad advice and many people with anxiety need to focus less on themselves in order to be less self conscious. I think therapy is good, not all therapist are good but that’s with any profession. I personally went through things like war in my childhood, seeing family become addicts because of it, experienced grief, etc… and therapy is something that truly helped me. I am more self aware and can…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:37 PM
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love this comment! They do not practice self awareness at all and some of these guys just become wildly misogynistic & terrible and somehow we have to empathize with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:15 PM
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eh… if you have things like social anxiety for example you are indeed a bit too focused on yourself - it’s extreme self consciousness. People don’t think about you as much and if you focus on things like “how can i connect to this person” rather than “do they hate me? Am i weird? “ etc it might help. I don’t know what the conversation was.. But i don’t necessarily think it’s bad advice. It really depends on how it’s explained but i have anxiety and being less in my own head and constantly focuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:09 PM
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If by “fixing” you mean - having good mental health, hobbies, friends and life outside a relationship. Yes! If it’s a “become Chad and or you will never deserve love or women”… no! As a woman, i’ve also felt the need to “fix” myself because i realized i needed certain qualities myself to find a quality partner. My past experiences were slightly toxic and i have enough self awareness to understand my own faults in them. I think men should only try to “fix” themselves in that way if that’s somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:03 PM
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I specified Sardinia
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 12:58 AM
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I know that Sardinia (italy) was one of them, the study was by Stanford.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 12:24 AM
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Which episode is that specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:52 PM
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Yes, men in countries where community is valued and where it’s normal for them to seek emotional support actually live longer! But you say that on here and they will attack you & say you’re dismissing their issues. I got this from a podcast called man enough which is actually a podcast that encourages actual growth and understanding when it comes to men’s issues… But somehow they prefer Andrew Tate & all these other toxic influencers that they tell them they need to make money and become Chad or…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:32 PM
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Right… like making online subgroups and podcasts only will get you so far. I think all of this is mostly useless and will only lead them to more frustration and resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:25 PM
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i don’t think it’s an excuse. How can you speak on rights if you support someone who proudly pimps out women? Who sold courses to encourage other men to do what he did and basically extort the women on top of that. That’s besides the potential human trafficking he’s allegedly being accused of. Don’t you see the irony? I completely agree with most men’s view on current dating dynamics … However where i’m lost is why is it that most are worshipping men who clearly degrade women? It makes me questi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:19 PM
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Please show a scientific article that shows lack of sex is a cause of death or affects life expectancy. I am not saying it doesn’t matter - but it’s true that it is not needed to live. Like at all. OP’s comment wasn’t incorrect. What you’re describing is the mindset around sex - that is what is affecting their mental health. Monks and incels are different because they view sex differently - not because the lack of sex itself causes any of the issues you previously mentioned. Btw: period cramps a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:05 PM
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I think intimacy and community help you live longer which marriage can give you. But more women priority those connections with other women rather than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:57 PM
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What do you mean by “something that man actually need and can’t get elsewhere?” could you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:32 PM
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That doesn’t take into account that women are becoming less interested in motherhood or marriage. There are movements like 4b spreading and many women prefer that lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:28 PM
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you can have intimacy without sex. Most people need community and emotional intimacy in order to have better mental health - sex itself has no correlation to this. Men lack emotional connection & community but think all their problems are rooted in sex. You can survive without it. If that was true, Monks & religiously celibate men would all die of depression & ptsd… But they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:25 PM
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Agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:57 PM
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okay
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 01:33 AM
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sounds like you’re not in the position to criticize anyone who doesn’t care then
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:26 AM
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no cause when i heard this i was like… finally! This is what we needed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:13 AM
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The age doesn’t really matter, point is still the same. Who is pinnacle to you? Please give me an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:11 AM
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Disabled women get taken advantage of by men every single day… but of course you don’t care about that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 11:36 PM
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You’re clearly speaking out of anger and emotion rather than from a place of knowledge and understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 11:32 PM
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Women actually mask more though, it’s a real thing. Even for other disorders like ADHD, there are more women who are diagnosed later in life because they mask a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 11:29 PM
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You’re delusional. I have a job & never made any man pay for all my expenses. Being a provider doesn’t mean you’re all alone and the woman doesn’t contribute anything at all financially to the relationship - statistically, that’s not the case for the average couple. And if a woman is dating you & genuinely likes you then she obviously will want to return the favour - if she doesn’t she should get dumped. You’re just thinking in extremes here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:36 PM
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right.. these people don’t understand feminism lol.. It’s about choice and freedom. Not forcing everyone to act the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:28 PM
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men don’t necessarily take accountability that much.. i really don’t see how they are so different in that aspect - you literally agreed with her point too which confirms men also lack some form of accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:21 PM
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That’s ridiculous lol Men approach women based solely on their looks. If she’s not physically attractive , he won’t consider her other qualities and will ignore her. Does it mean men only care about looks? Not necessarily. He will still get to know her as a person to see if they can date. If women care about men courting or even be a provider by paying for dates, it doesn’t mean she only cares about using him. She will still get to know him as a person and see if they can date. They’re not two m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 06:58 PM
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I’d rather clock in tbh… If a woman genuinely wants to depend on a man and live the stay at home life she can also still probably find that if she dates with intention. I’m not sure of what consequences you speak of… Education and Financial freedom are privileges in this world. Many people don’t have it whether it’s because of their government, their gender, instability/war, or whatever else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 06:39 PM
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I’ve always said that. Men on here are the male equivalent of the very women they criticize. It’s two sides of the same coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 06:36 PM
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Even the most beautiful women get cheated on though. I’m not sure if you genuinely think cheating is dependent on physical beauty? Even women like Candice Swanepoel, Halle Berry, Adriana Lima, the list goes on… they all got cheated on. Do you really believe what you say or are you ignorant to how men behave in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:00 PM
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Yes, i wish more men here realized this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:36 PM
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Not me, most women i know either worry about cheating or any form of mistreatment from a man. Thinking you are too pretty to get cheated on is where you become delusional… if that man was able to bag you, why would he not be able to bag another girl? I’m decently attractive not a supermodel, but i take good care of myself and been called above average by men many times & this is mostly how i view it. Especially because men aren’t only judged by their looks - if he is average, makes a good income…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:17 PM
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i completely agree with this, it is a red flag for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:05 PM
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not really, people can be completely different in real life than how they portray themselves to be online or through texts. It requires less effort/commitment and you can craft very specific responses that aren’t necessarily responses you would give in real life. To me, it should mainly just be used if there is no way to meet or in between hang outs/dates to catch up/meet up when you first start seeing someone. It can create a false sense of connection and later disappointment because real life …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 03:58 PM
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preference means, you like something compared to another thing… But you don’t mind either. Like, “i prefer brunettes over blondes, but i might date a blonde regardless if she’s attractive.” It’s usually not something that will cause very negative feelings like bitterness, or resentment. Standards are what’s present in order to avoid these negative feelings/experiences and have a good relationship. Now some people have good standards, some people have ridiculous ones … But generally those are sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 03:51 PM
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Money - I date guys who are doing something with their life. If they have a job and are responsible, then that’s good for me. I’ve never asked a guy how much he makes but i’ve noticed that men talk about it upfront. Maybe because they think i am assessing that. I’d say realistically in my city , making 60-70K is ideal at the minimum. Even if a guy is not making that much, i’d want him to at least work towards it. It’s pretty doable if you know how to find the right opportunities. I’d probably as…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:31 AM
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They are still choosing not to date, the reasons would dependent on each individual. The fact remains… Younger men are less likely to want to find a relationship therefore they will be in less relationships. That’s exactly what i’ve explained all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 11:33 PM
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Bianca Lawson, she’s 44… except she’s a natural beauty
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 11:23 PM
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Depends on if they are looking though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 11:21 PM
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Sure, you could say that but most 50 year old men aren’t necessarily appealing to most women either so i don’t think the difference is super drastic. I think men overestimate what an average, 50 year old man looks like or how appealing they are… Most of you think the rich ones that are in the 1% who can buy relationships with young women. That’s not most men. I personally have seen my mom and grandmother find partners in their 50s or 60s & they are super happy.. plenty of older men that are reti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 11:16 PM
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emotional detachment and emotional unavailability are two different things
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 11:07 PM
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this article literally says young men are less likely to look for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:59 PM
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I am getting it from pew research, what about you? For men 18-30 goes down to around 50% ; men older 70%. Also, do women run out of options or are younger men under 30 less likely to seek long term commitment & mariage? Use your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:52 PM
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Do you think women with commitment issues don’t exist? Or women with avoidant attachment style?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:47 PM
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Eh… Not really. Situationships typically involve more than just sex or FWB behaviour. It’s usually messy and sometimes they will do things that people in relationships do (dates, meeting friends/family, etc) just without label. I personally never been in either of these scenarios but there’s a clear difference in my head. Most people have long term situationships as well, the girl isn’t necessarily a slut - she just has feelings for a man who doesn’t want to commit or leads her on. I see it more…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:33 PM
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I’m from Canada & no they don’t care at all, they are usually very welcoming! As long as you respect them of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:11 PM
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Not really… Passport Bros are basically sex tourists which is quite different than young people who travel to discover the world, such as backpacking trips, or travelling with friends. Those are actually valuable experience that you can carry with you for life & that teach you so much about yourself and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:03 PM
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70% of adult men are in relationships. Out of that 30% there are some that are single by choice ( after divorce, widow, or wants to live as a bachelor) - The small percentage of men who remain perpetually single through adulthood represent a small minority and that could easily indicate that they have deeper problems that causes this. Im not sure how this is good advice to women… Plus there’s is roughly an equal amount of single women (adult) so it’s probably the case that both groups have indiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:00 PM
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Where did i claim infidelity was the only reason? And no, i don’t agree that most are self entitled reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:38 PM
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Eh… Not really. Im pretty feminine and men typically love it. The way i dress, my manners, etc… There’s that first level of feminine that is pretty upfront, more superficial that men really like. Now when it comes to feminine traits in relationships i won’t just be caring and nurturing to random men. Neither will i do it to men who i get to know who don’t make me feel safe - which to me basically means: is a good guy, doesn’t lie, cheat, manipulate, etc. I’ve been with those types and that’s whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:04 AM
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Yup, i think most men that watch that type of content would be better off if they simply got off those apps/websites and just travelled & gained life experience. It’s so much healthier than whatever BS there is on social media nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:01 AM
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Mhmm… why are you’re acting like there aren’t reasons why divorce are initiated sir
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:27 AM
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exactly 🤣 all this tells most women is that men will eventually stop “loving” us and that we probably shouldn’t rely on them in the first place. If all they care about is youth and beauty and both of those things are extremely temporary then why should we care about being with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:52 PM
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It’s the same thought.. just with better explanation i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:35 PM
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Dude, that’s fine. I live in the real world too. I went through war as a child and saw the most fucked up parts of humanity. You’re not teaching me anything. I’ve known life was brutal from childhood. I don’t think any of what you’re speaking of - the red pill, manosphere content, or all this crap is actually helping the dating scene. It’s just dividing people and making them focus on their insecurities and how invaluable they are. Most dudes on here could benefit from shutting their accounts do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:30 PM
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Bingo! Like i wonder if these men are aware of this. Most of their favorite influencers are simply looking for money, and profit off them being lonely & insecure. How else will they sell their courses? Even fitness influencers buy into all of this because that allows them to get more men to watch their fitness content in hopes to finally become an “alpha”. I’m in a lot of self improvement subs and so many guys talk about how they were doing fine before their algorithms started showing them redpi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:23 PM
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I think we’re too obsessed with equating to dating and “who’s the best mate” rather than actually focusing on real valuable things like: community, integrity, compassion. Like an elderly person is not a less valuable human being, a woman that’s infertile is not a less valuable being, a man with a low income is not a less valuable being. We never talk about how we can add value to each other’s lives in any way outside of superficial aspects - even romantically. What exactly will we teach our kids…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:15 PM
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Which studies exactly? I also think there are probably people that are happily married and others that are unhappily married considering the divorce rates, their happiness levels probably drastically change. In my opinion it’s probably: happily married > single > unhappily married. And rates of loneliness are increasing sure, but i think people are lonelier even outside of romantic relationships. It’s not like we live in a culture that values community, we are highly individualistic & this bring…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:07 PM
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thank you… this generation is so cooked with this whole “value” thing. They have it all wrong. You don’t become invaluable just because of your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 09:13 PM
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how do you know it’s related to singleness?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 09:10 PM
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I feel like more and more women are just fine being single though… Look at the 4b movement in Korea. The idea of mariage is just not as appealing to many.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 09:10 PM
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Most women are completely aware of their ability to procreate and at which ages it decreases. I’m not sure why you’re acting so ignorant. Most of us have gynaecologist and know our bodies very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 09:09 PM
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Most 20-25 year old women don’t want to get married & those who do get married at that age have like a 90% rate of divorce. Just putting that out there first and foremost. I’m 27 now and it’s a lot easier to find men that are serious as well. Men who don’t get all their dating advice from TRP/male influencers online and seek a mature, level-headed woman will most likely go for a woman that’s like in her late 20s or early 30s. Tons of people get married around these ages and start families, it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 09:02 PM
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Right… at this point most girls i know who are somewhat aware of what redpill is legit run away at the first sign a man is into that. Me included.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:47 PM
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They exist in some places like Paris! There’s also plenty of female focused events in my own city, mostly in queer spaces. I’m straight and i go, it’s always good vibes. I think it’ll become more popular overtime, hopefully. I genuinely like going out to dance and have a good time.. I couldn’t care less about a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:44 PM
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I completely agree with this! I think community can only benefit us and help us reinstate those types of values. Unfortunately, i think with social media and the way most people have been raised in the west.. It will be very hard for that to become a reality. People can text each other every moment of the day and it makes people more lazy when it comes to social interactions. Before, if you wanted to speak to someone, you had to go see them. You had to go out to do anything, now we don’t even ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:38 PM
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I don’t necessarily think it’s a dangerous experiment. I think the nuclear family is especially perfect for a more capitalist society where people value individualism rather than community. I agree with that monogamy is important but not necessarily the idea of a nuclear family. I think at this point we’re going in the direction where the lack of community is causing us more issues than anything which also affects our ability to even find partners and monogamous relationships. I prefer the conce…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:19 PM
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That specific pattern of thinking/behaviour is mostly an avoidant attachment style or fearful-avoidant attachment. You can just type in those words on youtube and google and find many channels/books on it. A creator i like is Heidi Priebe, or School of life on youtube. The main book would be ‘Attached by Amir Levine & Rachel Keller.’ It touches all attachment styles though - some people respond differently to pain/suffering by clinging on to people or being codependent for example. It talks abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:03 PM
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Honestly i really enjoy these topics and anything to do with psychology so i get it from many places! But if you want to start maybe look up the attachment theory and attachment styles. That really helped me understand my myself and others. There’s a a few books on it & lots of youtube content about it. There’s also some spiritual books that also really help understand these concepts. To accept that pain and suffering are part of life but what defines or prolongs that suffering is often times ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:40 PM
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What stats exactly? Mine are from pewresearch - not made up in my mind & actually pretty recent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:14 PM
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No, it goes down to around 50% for 18-30 years olds and many of these young men choose to be single and aren’t interested in long term commitment which is completely normal for that age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:42 PM
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Yes, i feel like more people should learn from queer folks in that sense. They really value community and friendships!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:18 PM
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she never said that it was
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:13 PM
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Because realistically, that need to avoid attachment typically comes from going through pain or trauma. It’s a form of numbness that’s created in order to avoid going through those things again. I’ve personally been through this and it’s incredibly lonely and entirely based on fear. Anything that’s done out of fear will most likely cause suffering because you’re assuming that all your experiences will be negative when realistically it could be incredibly positive and fulfilling. That mindset wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:01 PM
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70% of adult men are in relationships. Most men can find fulfilling relationships, the ones who are perpetually single represent a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:45 AM
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People can still look better than others shaved. People could still have better bodies than others. I mean, i think it would still be the same thing we see play out in real life. They would still find ways to categorize and size people up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:43 AM
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Monogamy is what helped shape society. Nuclear families & marriage are mostly useful for society as a whole. It’s helped our civilization evolve to what it is today. Marriages were essentially contracts between families and it still is a contract today. I think wanting a long term relationship is completely normal if two people enjoy each other and attachment is a completely normal human need because we are social animals and that has also helped us. If attachment didn’t exist, people wouldn’t h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:32 AM
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Yup that’s such a good point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:30 AM
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Many men like BBWs behind closed doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:30 AM
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Hehhh… Gypsy Rose Blanchard receive over 250+ love letters and was able to get married from prison. She’s not a beauty queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:18 AM
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exactly LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:14 AM
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Are you serious? 🤣 Porn IS different from masturbating. That’s like saying watching TV is no different than imagining a movie in your head. If porn was the exact same than masturbating with your imagination then why do people even watch porn? Why is it the most searched thing on the internet and a billion dollar industry? I am not against masturbation at all. I am not against sex & i’m actually pretty sex positive. I couldn’t care less if a man masturbated because realistically that has never im…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:10 AM
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Matt rife aint that cute tho
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:55 PM
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I’m just saying, women tend to be more obsessed with celebrities in general. Like even female celebrities, their fanbases are full of women obsessed with them. I was not thinking of sex lol. And i mean… yes, men would do just as much if not more if they think they had a chance. Possible it’s just because male celebrities will sleep with lots of fans. I’ve never really heard of the opposite happening which goes back to your point so i guess we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:53 PM
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Porn addiction is a real thing… that can cause erectile disfunction and cause so many issues with real sex mentally or physically. We live in the first generation where young people as young as 10-11 years old can have access to the most hardcore porn all from a small device in their pockets & it’s silently brainwashing sooo many people. You don’t sound educated on the subject - so many dudes would be way more free if they weren’t dependent on that thing. It actually makes so many men constantly…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:39 PM
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I don’t think it’s because of that. Women are more concerned with celebrities period. Whether it’s female celebrities like taylor swift, beyonce, kim k or males like Justin Bieber, or Harry styles. Men typically just “fangirl” over sports players or very stereotypically male figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:07 PM
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Not really - I think attraction is the main concern, then security is. We’re still driven by our sexual attraction which is dictated by our need for the “strongest suiter” (aka attractive male) - but since we know their capabilities, we prefer establishing a minimum amount of contact to make sure they are safe (aka that we survive). It’s really that simple. And i don’t know… I think lots of these requests from women are highly sociological rather than embedded in us through evolution. That’s not…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:03 PM
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Oh my god… You are the male equivalent of the “all men are trash” women. You sound the exact same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:08 AM
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You honestly just sound jaded from going on dates and having to pay lol Most women love conversations, are willing to split bills or pay things for their partners, or do other things because they love their boyfriends and are whole human beings with interests and hobbies. If you haven’t met that type of woman just say that instead of stereotyping all women. If you’re mostly dating online though, that probably doesn’t help.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:55 AM
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I think it’s mostly for security. Men are stronger and we cannot defend ourselves easily against them - safety makes us have that need to get to know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:46 AM
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And how are men so different from one another? I am failing to see how men are these diverse beings compared to women. And if you walk outside - and go places, travel, go volunteer, participate in events around the city, they are pretty much everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:45 AM
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Not really. There are women out there that are educated, have hobbies, don’t wear makeup or just stick to the minimum. You don’t pay attention to them and that is why you view all women this way. Women aren’t monolith and all have different values, personalities, and interests. If you go for the wrong ones than don’t blame the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:35 AM
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I mean sure it diminishes but i think this idea of the wall is over exaggerated.. Most people who are older and fail to find stable relationships usually have other issues that keep them from doing so. I don’t think a woman that takes care of herself and has good qualities will struggle that much even in her 40s or even 50s… Plenty of older men, who have children, or are retired, would date them. The pool is definitely smaller but it’s not like they are doomed. My mom and grandmother both found …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:22 AM
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this is another level though 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:09 AM
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Are you okay?? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:08 AM
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Personally i love having a guys hoodie and it smells like them… i love sleeping in it and just smell him 😭🩷 Im super single now so i hate thinking about this LOL but it’s a very comforting feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:04 AM
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As if there aren’t younger women who complain about not finding good men… the phrase “men are trash” was literally coined by this younger generation of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:54 AM
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Yes; i’ve noticed guys that are like this and it really turns me off. I prefer when men just want a genuine conversation, no need for games.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:51 AM
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So you believe most women have sex for the purpose of acquiring a relationship? And how is that related to evolution? Evolution just dictates what type of man we’re most attracted to (mostly physically if we’re speaking of sex) but i think relationships are very much a sociological phenomenon. It makes society work and evolve. Sex is different and i don’t think women are necessarily wired to seek relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 12:30 AM
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If she had plenty of one night stands she probably was not hoping for a relationship A girl who is genuinely wanting something serious will likely not engage in one night stands. I think those are two different types of women & i think that it’s true that many women who engage in lots of casual/ONS are seeking validation but it’s probably more about getting many different men to want you in that sense which excites/validates them. It’s not rooted in long term goals. I know girls who have had “ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:17 PM
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Nope - even fuckboys have to actually be nice & develop personality to women to get them in their bed. I don’t think the women who would sleep with someone that’s rude and condescending to them represent a majority. Your self esteem would have to be extremely low to accept that when in reality plenty of men will do way more for you. But like i said - it’s bare minimum. Attractiveness is a plus, depending on what level you are it will be easier to attract more people, for sure. I don’t think blue…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:56 PM
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If an average man calls himself a 10 i wouldn’t give two fucks honestly. I don’t have a problem with people having confidence in themselves even if it seems delusional on a superficial level. It changes nothing in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:23 PM
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Thank you - i don’t get this obsession with wanting women to humble themselves. Most of us just see through that crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:22 PM
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hmmm CHILL. This woman just knows nothing about fitness clearly 🤣 that’s not how most of us think. That’s a random reddit comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:06 PM
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this is what i’m currently working on as a people pleaser :’) i love those types of women too!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:02 PM
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Right… I don’t online date and i’m private on all social media platforms and still get a good amount of attention from men. It would be there regardless. I think social media just made men more aware of those dynamics or of how much attention women can get - but for women it’s always a thing whether or not social media is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:58 PM
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As a woman, i don’t think most women can get simps like that either. There’s a difference between being used for sex and a man actually simping. Most men reserve that treatment for very attractive women, and i think that’s regardless of it that woman is 20 or 40s. Sure the type of man can change, but it’s never really gone if she takes care of herself as she ages. And let’s not act like younger men don’t chase older women either; most of the time the woman declines. I just don’t think it’s that …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:44 PM
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Why are you assuming i am being dishonest and biased just because i don’t agree with you? I didn’t say she was ugly by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:34 PM
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a 6-7 is still above average and can probably attract lots of people, especially if they go to the gym and develop a good physique. But if we’re speaking rating and what it really consists of … an 8+ would fall in the category i spoke of earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:31 PM
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It’s not personal bias - i would not rate her an 8 personally, then again i am not attracted to women so perhaps my standards are different. I would consider an 8/9 a girl that could easily model and has pretty facial features. I think she looks a bit basic and more on the average side.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:26 PM
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You didn’t answer my question though Besides… a hot 42 year old can get things from plenty of men, younger, older… etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:16 PM
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Again, i think many women just view how a lot of PUAs and RP men speak and come to this conclusion rather than it being a way to cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:15 PM
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Depends, if you’re dating a more traditional woman who’s willing to have that role in a relationship and then split bills she probably will just look for a man who sees things the way she does. Besides, men are extremely superficial too and probably invited that woman on said date for superficial reasons - aka she’s hot. Most men’s entire motivation behind pursuing a woman is based on her looks yet women are superficial. Mhmm okay. Personally, i’ve never had an issue splitting certain things or …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:02 PM
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Right, it also depends on the platform. Instagram comment for example, are typically more negative & people get judged on looks a lot more. The comments would probably be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:00 PM
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Some men have great physique but will never fall under the 8-10 category. I’d argue that most people who can would be attractive even with less muscle or given that they aren’t overweight. Most truly above average people have great facial features. The right hair or physique just boosts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:58 PM
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she’s more attractive sure, but not 8-9. Most 8-9s are models or have very beautiful facial features. I think the blonde hair helps her and that’s about it. She’s in the 5-6 range too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:53 PM
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I think it’s because she rated herself highly and put another woman down. i don’t think she’s an 8.5 or 9 whatsoever. It’s the “better than” attitude than women don’t like. She’s not not that much better looking than that brunette realistically speaking, her facial features are not particularly stunning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:49 PM
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You don’t actually know what they are thinking - those are assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:42 PM
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I guess this would mostly go for attractive women then. It’s not every 22 yr old that can get anything or any guy just from looks. A hot 42 year old VS ugly 22 year old.. which one do you think will most likely get a rich husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:32 PM
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eh… i’ve seen redpill podcasters admit that plenty of women 25-30 are just as hot, if not better looking - because they present themselves better, have more confidence etc… But they will still go for an 18 year old because they are “malleable”. I’ve honestly heard terrible shit from many hugely popular male influencers and most of their “techniques” revolve around manipulation & targeting women who would fall for it. It’s not really just a “coping” thing for women - cause most of us can still at…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:21 PM
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People who stay in friendships with people who made it clear they were not into them romantically/sexually need to just develop some boundaries. No one is stringing them along, they themselves are doing things specifically to have a certain outcome - to make it seem like the other party is somewhat manipulative is just projection. It’s the same for girls who continuously sleep with men who they want a relationship with but the man made it clear he doesn’t want a relationship. At some point you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:11 PM
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Sprinkle sprinkle ✨
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:49 PM
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if you’re on here complaining that being a certain way didn’t help, than that means you had an ulterior motive & it didn’t happen “spontaneously”. You had this expectation in the back of your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:46 PM
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Treating women like human beings & having a good personality is like the bare minimum. That doesn’t mean someone will want to sleep with you automatically, or want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:28 PM
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Sure , but that’s not to the level of dating apps where you can get 100+ swipes in like an hour. Women will always be pursued whether it’s online or real life but dating apps are garbage - and that’s coming from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 10:48 PM
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Yeah i feel like men do care about face, even more than the body. Most men i know have said (when asked) that if a girl is pretty/beautiful but has smaller boobs/butt than it doesn’t matter that much compared to the opposite. Even if they are guy that are crazy about those body parts. As a woman i am pretty much the same, i also don’t care for height for example, a handsome guy is always going to be attractive despite that. However, some girls i know care more about height and can take a guy les…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 10:45 PM
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I’m african dummy. I just explained it. I’ve probably visited more countries in the continent than you ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 10:38 PM
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I’m literally African and was born in raised in Canada. So yes, you do sound incredibly ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:48 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 11:27 AM
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You sound ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 11:26 AM
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Most people back then lived in cities or near them… not super remote areas. Those towns are very far out and aren’t necessarily the best places to find stable jobs either. Commuting for hours when you have a family isn’t ideal so that’s another reason to avoid it all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:26 AM
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What do people usually buy before having children? A home. I’m not sure where you live but these prices aren’t at all what they were in our grandparents time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:56 AM
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You make no sense. We’re speaking of couples who chose not to have children. Wtf does your comment have to do with unattractive single men who aren’t having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:22 AM
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I think this issue mainly exists because of our economy. It’s just simply become way too expensive & stressful to have children so most people just say fuck it, get pets and travel. It’ll eventually be really bad for the economy though because there will be a shortage of labour in the upcoming decades so they’ll have to find a way to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 11:32 PM
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If you read my post a few more times you'd see that I am making the argument that for every sacrifice a woman makes, there is an equal or greater sacrifice a man makes, and then you come and turn it into a pissing contest of who's the most deprived of freedom. You’re the only one taking this some as sort of contest here. I never said men make no sacrifice but there is a reason why decency is a problem for some women. It was definitely not a strawman as i quite literally said “both men and women …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 10:44 PM
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I know lots of people who went on dates and became platonic friends. I guess it depends on personalities. But of course since the premise is too have a romantic/sexual relationship then it’ll be harder to achieve that and people will most likely end it if that doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 09:21 PM
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You think slaving away for 40-60 hours a week for another person's dream is freedom? Men are robbed off freedom more because at least the woman can spend time with the kids and watch them grow up much more than a man can. First, i just want to remind you that stay at home wives do work. Cooking , baby sitting, cleaning are all jobs you can get employed for. Please don’t minimize what work these women do, especially if you essentially want that type of woman or you want women to value that work m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:28 PM
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So either way she’s the problem. It’s not really about men denying her or her denying them. It’s just about having many partners period.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:24 PM
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I think it’s both capitalism and social media. If we didn’t have social media we’d be more inclined to seek socialization in person. And since most things now are expensive and we constantly work - we can’t even make time for community even if we want to. It’s all tied together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:06 PM
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Feminism fought for constitutional rights.. not who asks on dates. And it does work. Most men i know who have dated me or have had successful relationships are very upfront and will ask you on a date. I do think as a woman it’s important to show signals and interest as men won’t do this if they think they have no chance. If you show a man you like them, then he’ll be more than happy to pursue if he actually likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:58 PM
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I feel like either way you just have to be the guy’s type. I know plenty of couples where the man initiated but still didn’t see the woman as a future wife or considered commitment. Some men are also more timid than others so showing interest can help. Just don’t pursue the guy. If he likes you he’ll take the initiative once he knows you’re also into him. He’ll text you first, invite you on dates, etc… A lot of women get pursued, then once the guy got what he wanted & shows less interest they wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:54 PM
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do you flirt or show interest in guys you find attractive? I am a girl and sometimes i think men are timid or if they don’t think they have a chance they won’t try.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:46 PM
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I think he just knows codependent women. I am not like that and do fairly well single so do my friends. I actually really dislike women that are the way he describes, they are exhausting to be friends with. I will say though, i need people - whether it’s friends or family. I need to call people, hug them, hang out. Or else i tend to feel really lonely so i’ll do all of that to avoid it. I think women are closer to their emotions and that may explain why we feel this way more often. To me lonely …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:35 PM
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Again, a white man can probably get away with way more than a black woman does. That’s on top of not being taken seriously when victims of crimes too. Sex traffickers have admitted they target black women cause they can usually get away with it. I would argue that the criminal justice system a lot more discriminatory towards race rather than gender. Class is also a huge component. I am not saying men don’t ever experience any discrimination but it’s way more nuanced than this and some men are co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:19 PM
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I never said women don’t do these things. I am well aware they do. We’re speaking of the number of occurrences and statistics. Show me statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:14 PM
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Can you show me statistics/proof on that? I think maybe for specific crimes, but overall - men commit more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:11 PM
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I think you not seeing the problem with that decency just means you’re not really realistic about what that can imply for a woman. Like yes, in a perfect world, having a man who provides is ideal and i don’t think any woman is ever against the idea of that. But the reality is that nothing in this world is free. You’re giving away your freedom. You not working and having your livelihood dependent on another person means if that person doesn’t want you eat, you won’t. If you want something, it’s e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:04 PM
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It honestly sounds to me like women are just encouraged to do what men have always done. Plus this advice is like common TRP advice for men, date multiple, don’t give the other power, etc… It’s all the same thing. Neither party likes when the other does all of that.. But they kind of encourage their own group to do so. With that being said, i think a lot of men and women also aren’t like this and won’t follow this advice. I personally would never, i don’t have the energy or any interest in enter…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:50 PM
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No women don’t commit as much men. Let’s not lie. And there are women of color who also get charged or falsely of more crimes compared to white women and men. Not really just an issue of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:46 PM
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Why are you speaking of HR? Are you dumb? That is work. No one is having these convos at work. If you hang out with people and socialize outside of those spaces, yes, they tend to talk about different stuff. Almost every guy i know has had that phase, even my brothers or men i’ve dated. It may not be RP, could be andrew tate, or other male influencers that carry similar sentiments about women… But this type of speech has become extremely mainstream amongst men, especially under 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:36 PM
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so it’s just talking just to talk, got it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:57 PM
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You’re king of delusional for saying this. There are men every day who criticize women who they deem “not wife/girlfriend material”. I’ve seen it in real life since forever. Plus things like TRP are almost mainstream - there’s so many men who are comfortable spewing what they see online.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:28 PM
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and by criticizing women is that that you expect women as a whole to have control over each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:20 PM
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But you do realize women get 400 matches because of what the original comment said right? Like the buffet exists because men swipe to any woman. There’s not much women can do stop that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:13 PM
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LMAO, yet you have two women here telling you the exact opposite. You don’t actually listen to women, miss me with that. There’s not a hoard of women saying “i dated this short man and i settled bc he’s short” these are assumptions you’re making because of your preconceived ideas. Chances are, if a woman is dating a short man… She just doesn’t care that he’s short. That’s really it. Stop acting like you know how all women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:04 PM
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im dating a short man and don’t feel like i settled in any way 💀 some women aren’t prioritizing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:04 PM
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mhmm… i don’t personally date online. I’m 5’5 and my boyfriend is 5’6… met him in real life. Can’t speak for apps, i hate them personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:01 PM
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I think you guys are being dramatic with the statement i made. Black women may get less swipes online but that doesn’t mean they are entirely rejected or getting played by men. I’ve personally never had any issues being approached and courted by men. I don’t date online bc i don’t feel like i need to. I am aware of the beauty standards but it doesn’t keep me from having a dating life. There are nuances to this. I was just saying that men also have preferences and aren’t all that different. I am …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:38 PM
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He doesn’t know. He is just assuming that because if he doesn’t… all of his arguments and worldview won’t make sense anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:34 PM
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We’re speaking of preferences. Men have preferences and they aren’t that diverse. Plenty of women also date average men & not just conventionally attractive guys. 70% of adult men are in relationships - that’s plenty of average men right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:28 PM
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Short men are in relationships and reproduce every day. Even if it’s a conventionally attractive trait to be tall doesn’t mean there are people out there that aren’t with short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:24 PM
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Yikes… i dont vouch for this at all. Your advocating using black women for personal gain which is a really awful & dehumanizing statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:19 PM
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That doesn’t happen as much as men on here make it seem. Chances are she probably got to know the guy & did not like him for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:57 AM
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i had a man try this with me and he got blocked so fast✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:52 AM
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Nobody manipulated you. Men paying on dates is a very common occurrence that has always existed and if it’s not your thing you don’t have to go out of your way to invite a woman out and pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:48 AM
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right.. we don’t talk about the friendship aspect of relationships enough. It’s important.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:41 AM
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the male fantasy is to be seen as a hero here… not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:38 AM
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Right, it’s so fascinating to see men on here act like men as a whole are these loving beings 💀 9 times out of 10 they are just lustful and confuse their lack of opportunity to being better people. Most men aren’t concerned with love.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:37 AM
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Again; i don’t think this is how most women in dead bedroom view it. There’s usually underlying issues and the lack of sex is a result of that. These people rarely have “perfect” relationships outside of the sex. Also.. like i said, there are men who cause dead bedrooms. Why do you think a man would not want sex with their wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:45 PM
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i see men post memes like that too lol it’s mostly just jokes And as a woman, i’m not abusive at all.. But i will be honest and say i’ve had red flags in the past. Mainly minor things though. Some guys would literally tell me they see red flags and still pursue. I’m not proud of it, but to think this is something only women do is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:27 PM
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Please show me where you got this number for one…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:23 PM
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Some women might have social anxiety, lack of experience, past trauma.. you name it. And that doesn’t mean they are these highly picky individuals or willing to lead some guy on out of desperation bc it’s not genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:03 PM
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dead bedroom is usually a symptom of other problems in the relationship… Not some cynical plan by the woman to ruin their husbands lives or because they couldn’t care less about him. There’s also plenty of women who experience dead bedroom at the hands of their husband which i don’t get why is ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:01 PM
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i know men that have lists 💀 I even know a guy that has an excel sheet for his ideal woman. Men will fuck almost anything if they are thirsty enough… But are more picky with who they chose to commit to. Women are more commitment oriented so they just immediately look at those aspects instead of entertaining someone who they know won’t have long term potential. Men can be with girls they have no intentions marrying or committing to just for sex. So that alone will skew all those statistics. But i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:55 PM
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Yes, there is such things as being conventionally attractive and those types of men typically can attract many or most women. Just like conventionally attractive women can attract many or most men. There are people who don’t fit in that beauty standard that still can find partners. I think what people mean when they say “different” is that: Some might like black guys, some like white. Some like pretty boys, and some like more manly features. Some girls like skinny guys, some girls like Dad bods.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:41 PM
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These guys will use any argument to justify the mistreatment of women. It doesn’t matter the context. If she hadn’t learned from it she’d be criticized, if she did… She’s still somehow wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:31 PM
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Then we have yet to see these numbers change... I don’t think they will, i think men benefit a lot from marriage and will always remarry more than women. Maybe the numbers will lower, but i think women provide a lot of unrecognized labour in marriage which is why they don’t care to do it again. Men benefit from marriage. You speak of divorce but for men so still go through the risk of divorce in order to experience mariage again then there must be benefits. I think it’s deeper than just “they co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:20 PM
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It is wrong. Most couples aren’t in abusive relationships meaning there’s tons of women that prefer normal, non abusive men. You all are just mentally perverted and will find any excuse to justify the mistreatment of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:02 PM
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read my last paragraph again
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:55 AM
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Yes but until you actually get to that point you won’t know. Relationships teach us and show us aspects of ourselves we never knew we had. I was also a late bloomer too and i think you probably want to experience your “firsts” with someone and for it to have meaning… But don’t think you’ll always feel like this. The novelty wears off, you start getting to know certain aspects of them you may like or dislike. You really have to make it work. You learn about yourself over time and what stated abov…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:47 AM
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Your whole comment feels icky to me sorry… You’re supposedly wealthy, older, rich and can have beautiful women. Why exactly are you talking about “clans of God” aren’t you technically one of them? Or are you average? Something is off. It sounds like you have a serious problem vetting women, it’s clearly not the lack of choice if you’re telling the truth. You also sounds like you just want to be a victim with that last paragraph. If you have that many issues then you most likely are not average, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:35 AM
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you’re a weirdo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:31 AM
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As someone who also has less relationship experience, it’s possible you have avoidant attachment style meaning you might want a relationship but deep down you’re not emotionally available. Now knowing i’m like this - i avoid dating apps. If i meet a guy in real life i am way more down to go on dates and seeing them long term. Online i can’t connect and kind of just wait to get matches but it never leads to anything. Perhaps you should try to get out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:40 AM
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That can never happen to the vast majority of men when 70% of men are single. That’s not accurate at all. For younger men it’s close to 50% ; and over 30 year old it’s more like 70% of men that are in relationships. These numbers are from pew research. Most men aren’t actually single. What i said happens everyday. Even in those 30% of men who are sought after, only 5-10% will receive enough attention to merit equal monetary contribution. Again, that’s completely false and not reflective of reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:17 AM
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i think if you tolerate abusive from men you love than that’s your own issue to unpack
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:10 AM
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tbh i’m decently attractive and have split bills and paid for dates… i feel like you’re either chronically online or don’t have that much dating experience. Most girls i know will buy gifts for their boyfriends and spoil them too. We want to take care of men we like/love. I’ve never paid for a first date even if i’ve asked to split. I think men probably do this because they don’t want to ruin their chances. They usually will say something like “i asked you on this date so i’ll pay”. I think it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:50 AM
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here we go… the true colors of red pill men. Abusive assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:39 AM
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wait you’re a woman promoting this? 🤮bottom of the barrel
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:38 AM
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Why are you assuming that i am intentionally trying to misunderstand you? Maybe you are genuinely being unclear and unnecessarily negative. And can you give me examples of places adult women can hang out and not interact with men who could potentially show interest? Please give me examples because i am still confused. And no… I’m not doing it purposely, i am genuinely asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:47 PM
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Not really… this doesn’t make sense. You’ve generalized women in a negative light as if men cannot be mediocre at this thing too. You clearly have a strong, negative sentiment towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:35 PM
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No, it was my genuine perception of your thread of comment. It’s surprising that you now claim that your friendships with women are some of your most fruitful friendships. That goes against your argument. To me it just sounds like it’s a case of high risk , high reward. You might not find that many women to befriend with.. which may be normal because most men and women have different interests… But the ones you did find were worth it. I’m not sure why you’re so negative and talk as if women cann…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:30 PM
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That’s so sad to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:22 PM
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You can reproduce with a non broke loser (or winner if you will) and still end up in that situation.. especially if you were a stay at home mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:21 PM
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Why are divorced men more likely to remarry if it’s so bad? It’s women that chose to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:16 PM
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married men are more likely to get promotions and taken seriously in the workplace. So having a wife does benefit a man financially and career wise. That’s why politicians and very high positioned men are always married… it’s good for business.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:08 PM
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the jokes honestly write themselves. These men are so self centred and can’t see past their own bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:07 PM
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Why are you equating women spending time with friends to seeking validation from the opposite sex? That’s so toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:05 PM
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Love this comment!!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:03 PM
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only misogynistic men hold this opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:00 PM
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You talk like someone who clearly has never had any healthy platonic relationship with a woman. Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 10:58 PM
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Saying good people don’t stay single for long is icky. Singleness is completely fine, some people don’t jump from relationships to relationships. Some people date occasionally. Some people have a lack of experience… Doesn’t make them less “good”. It’s a very toxic way of thinking that pushes people to codependency. Plus, plenty of shitty people are in toxic relationships and are never single. It really doesn’t mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 10:54 PM
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How do men have all the responsibilities? This is quite unrealistic of what marriage actually is. Most women nowadays give birth to children, are the primary caretakers at home on top of also working. That’s quite a few responsibilities. And very important ones. There’s a lot of sacrifices that come with that too. It goes both ways. I think maybe men seeing marriage in the way you see it is the first issue here. It’s a self centred way of viewing marriage. Also you are mainly speaking of the los…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 10:40 PM
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it’s not most women though. I never said it didn’t happen, but no, plenty of women don’t center men or sex. The only reason men think this way is bc they project their sexual desires onto women. It’s ridiculous to assume that just because a girl travels, she’s promiscuous or is having sex with random men. For a lot of us, that’s unsafe and not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:51 AM
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Dark secrets? Sex is not something dark lmao. Who tf cares. I’m in my late 20s and it’s not like i have zero friends who have been promiscuous, cheated, or entertaining multiple men. Like if that is the case, we talk about it and i never really cared what another woman does. I also know some girls that have been on vacations and have “hoe stories” but it’s really not the majority at all. I know 2-3 girls who had a phase and did that when they were like 18-19 & traveling. I know a girl that went …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:08 AM
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As a woman who’s travelled plenty of times in her life… No.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:35 AM
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A big misunderstanding between people is thinking that just cause your friends you “know” them. It’s just as likely that your friends simply don’t tell you, because the vibe in your group is that you guys don’t do that. As if people don’t hide shit from each other. If we’re together on vacations, go to the same place, share the same hotel, how tf will they hide that from me? It’s impossible to just leave with some guy as a woman and hide it, we worry about safety too much to be doing stuff like …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:32 AM
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believe it or not, women can live happily without being concerned about “Chad”. Maybe they are just genuinely having fun and are happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:31 PM
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It’s not antisocial lmao… they are a group of college girls. There’s men around them, but they are obviously doing a choreography together. It’s also from a pretty popular tiktok account so chances are they did it for the person filming which is why they acknowledge the camera but it doesn’t come off as concern to me. You have a weird way of analyzing things. These girls probably have good healthy social lives just like any other college student.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:28 PM
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Yes, there’s 100% a racist vibes from these dudes. That’s a big part of why they are so upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:20 PM
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no seriously, i’ve been black out drunk & would go clubbing, travel, you name it … and was still a virgin. I’m glad i had fun too and i’m happy to see girls doing the same. These guys are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:19 PM
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that’s so ridiculous lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:14 PM
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to be fair… depends on the women. I’ve travelled a whole lot and never hooked up or had one night stands. Even in party focused cities like Miami or Ibiza. Me and my friends aren’t really interested in that & prefer to stick together. I still think it’s ridiculous to make such assumption just because a girl travels. Chances are, if she likes sleeping around, she’ll do it regardless of where she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:12 PM
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This is Louisiana, it’s the culture. Everyone dances like this… especially on mardi gras! Grown up, kids, men , women, white, black, you name it. I would love to visit one day. There young women aren’t doing wrong and just having fun. I feel like these dudes just want to find reasons to be upset. Plus they clearly lack cultural knowledge cause this isn’t new at all. Go on tiktok and type : @Mr.weatherall … that is the original account and you’ll see exactly what i mean. This is just people from …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:08 PM
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Sure, but after multiple pregnancies, let’s say 2-3 kids, your body won’t look the same. Whether it’s more stretch marks, loose skin, or whatever else. There’s more than just the number on the scale. And i’d argue that a lot of women’s husbands just don’t help them in that regards. Most women go back to work after kids and are still the primary caretakers at home. In order to maintain your body and lose weight , you need time to cook, workout and take care of your body and i don’t really see men…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:29 PM
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Do you mean BMI or body fat? Because a body fat percentage of 18 for women is good and that’s pretty much at the point where you can get visible abs. 18 BMI is a bit low and can cause a woman to lose her period and have tons of hormonal/fertility issues if it goes any lower. You wouldn’t want to go anything under 18.5-19. The two have different meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:23 PM
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I’m pretty petite and always been quite skinny. Obviously, men i’ve dated really like that. But i wonder how that would work long term, like after pregnancy (typically more than 1) some women never are able to get back to their size. I get very self conscious about that if i man is too into the fact that i’m petite/in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:14 PM
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Right; there are men out there who don’t want children, from personal decision or because they already have them. It’s more and more common so i’m not even sure why the whole argument of women being less fertile means they are automatically unappealing to most men. Men care about your attractiveness. If you’re a hot/attractive woman in your 20s/30s/40s/50s .. You can attract men. Plenty of older men also find certain traits of women in their 20s less appealing, such as maturity so men who look f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:04 PM
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Sure, i understand, i just think most of the points are very different than what i personally see in my own life as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:34 PM
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the point failed & doubt this would ever work long term
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:58 AM
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i would say for Chads if they want above average, or very attractive girls they do need game
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:49 AM
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I was not living in the past lol. I don’t know how men were. I was more speaking in the context of recent years - there’s tons of online content that influence men these days & i do think there’s shift in behaviour i noticed while dating. At least since the pandemic happened. If i can make a comparison it would be pre and post covid. However, on the women’s side it isn’t any better either. We also are influenced negatively in our own ways, i could make those same statements about women. Heck, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:47 AM
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I mean… They were still able to have conversations. We were still able to go on dates and have full blown conversations. I wouldn’t say they were anxious - but nervous. I think that’s more accurate. And no.. It was not a turn off at all. Anxiety is typically longer lasting and can come from unhealthy thought patterns. Nervousness is just an emotional response that goes away. They were nervous to approach me or talk to me at first - but it didn’t persist. That’s why i am saying you should probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:35 AM
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tbh i’ve had men be very anxious and nervous around me but i was still attracted cause i found them attractive. If anything, i was flattered & thought it was cute. It’s okay to be nervous - if she’s into you it won’t be a huge dealbreaker. I would say if you have extreme anxiety issues then get help for it. It’s not a death sentence, you can get past it. Also women are just flawed human beings like you or anyone else, no need for pedestals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:22 AM
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sprinkle sprinkle
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:15 AM
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sad
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:20 PM
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as a black woman, it gets tricky lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:42 PM
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To be honest, i wouldn’t want a committed relationship if it gives me more problems than i have but i want a partner i can travel with, have intimacy and that feels like my bestfriend. For me it’s about meeting the right person. If i don’t, im fine! But i do want that to happen. I think lots of men nowadays just have unhealthy ideas about women, always assume the worst or that you have ill intentions, want to control you, etc… I have zero interest in that and will leave at the first sign of this…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:38 PM
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It’s so exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:20 PM
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The last part of your comment!!! They look down on all the traits they seem to value. Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:19 PM
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Yikes… This is such a sad and low life post. Fastest way to get dumped by any healthy minded woman. You all don’t see women as people and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:08 PM
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I follow this barber on tiktok - docdami If you check his videos you’ll see what i mean. Proper grooming goes a long way. I’ve seen guys go from looking homeless to handsome in real life. Unless your bone structure is that bad, i think it can always help with your appearance for sure. Not saying that’s the only thing that matters either, but i think a lot of guys just don’t necessarily groom themselves the way it fits their face the most and that can help.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:35 PM
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i guess muscles goes into the frame part. But yes, face i would say is important. Good skin & having a good barber can go a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:27 PM
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that’s hilarious… I’ve been with one guy sexually but i don’t think i was “good” to every other guy i’ve dated. Men like you don’t see women as people and definitely don’t deserve women who are sexually disciplined… you don’t want them for the right reasons. It’s all about your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:15 PM
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okay , maybe it’s just your type or women in your area. There’s tons of normal girls out there, this is kind of a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:13 PM
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so most women are .. catfish?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:56 AM
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Attractiveness can mean different things for women not just physical - that’s the thing. There’s men out there short , ugly, and can still bag models because they have money. If you have zero attractive qualities then yes, it’ll be hard. For women that aren’t considered attractive physically it’s pretty much a done deal. They could never get their ideal type. But men can work towards it. Hope it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:53 AM
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not really, she’s right, women definitely look at the bigger picture & many different traits and can commit to a man depending on those whereas for a woman if he thinks you’re not cutting it physically he probably will never commit, maybe fuck if it’s dry for him, but no commitment. A girl for example can go for a guy that’s less physically attractive but has a good career wheras men won’t give two shits about the career part.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:47 AM
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idk i’ve seen plenty of men in this sub talking about how hard it is to get women only to later admit they want the “stacy” type. Plus men can indeed be quite picky for who they enter relationships with, they just aren’t picky when it comes to sex and can keep around a girl they aren’t that much into in order to keep the consistent sex. Most men still have an ideal type & put women into categories. I think most men who think like you just have very little experience but once that’s gone… yes, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:38 AM
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But who are you to know that it’s a facade? Can you give me practical example?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:19 AM
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If you want a “top” woman - by male standard then yes, you’ll have to be a top man yourself. But generally speaking, average men get into relationships everyday and most women aren’t looking for some rich chad. They date normal guys. Divorce is a whole different conversation in my opinion & doesn’t really have to do with this specific topic. Also, as a woman who’s pretty chaste and have only been with one partner. I’d say most men are looking for this type of woman for the wrong reason and aren’…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:27 PM
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right, most men in these spaces will admit that they actually want the “baddies” and the “stacey” aka the women that are the most sought after , i just gotta laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:06 PM
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most adult men are in relationships , it’s not just the top 10% that are so maybe go touch some grass for a start
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:03 PM
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yes that’s the sad part. Loving women genuinely is called simping these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:18 PM
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That’s true, i’ve dated men who so obviously got their dating advice from TRP & dating coaches. These men typically also don’t realize how toxic & unstable their own behaviour is. When you’re constantly playing games and pretending to be someone you’re not - don’t be surprised when healthy women don’t want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:09 PM
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no they don’t, especially not on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:00 PM
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yes i think it’s personality, and by “months” i wasn’t calculated the exact time… I was just typing a quick reply lol. But it could’ve been years - my point was that they visually looked a lot more muscular but still struggled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:37 PM
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months or years, i’ve seen both. Men that became visually more appealing and muscular still complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:32 PM
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I know the gym is great for that, it helped me too! But it might not be the only answer for some people is all im saying
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:27 PM
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You seem very involved in this case and i hope they find more evidence so you can live at peace
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:46 AM
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Is it a facade or did you just project your perception onto her?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:13 AM
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yes all women go through relationships and can experience heartbreak. They usually learn from that and are less naive or as you call it “innocent”… don’t see how that’s a negative. I will say, as an innocent woman who’s only had one partner… I don’t believe men in this space or TRP in general deserves that type of woman. They don’t truly value said women, they just idealize her. Put her in a box, the marriage box but can and will mistreat her in some way most times. Men who are obsessed with vir…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:05 AM
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So the only way a woman can be good is by being a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:56 AM
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so wait… if she had sex but didn’t get nutted in does it change? Is she worth marrying then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:53 AM
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i’m not familiar with the case but quickly read that she was a 15 yr old teenager when it happened and the man was 37 & involved in trafficking. i’m not sure how that’s related to metoo? Also.. nearly every murder cases consists of someone that cannot defend themselves… what exactly is that one case supposed to prove ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:32 AM
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No lol for one, there’s not nearly the same amount of men that approach women irl for that even be a possibility. It’s just unrealistic. And no again, in person men tend to look better, we can have conversations, see their personalities, asses things that just can’t be known by photos online. You get the full picture of someone. Those things can make someone more attractive. That’s personally why i don’t use online dating, it feels superficial & i don’t connect just based on looks & i’m not into…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:28 AM
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I didn’t say OLD isn’t real, i said there’s a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:21 AM
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thanks for this reality check, people on here need this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:15 AM
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there’s a big demographic of women who don’t use online apps though they won’t necessarily have the same thoughts and habits as women who do use them You won’t meet them online but irl, so yes there’s a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:13 AM
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exactly… which is why i will never understand their complaints. What if women were indeed willing to sleep with most men in any given place.?…They would just hate us for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:12 AM
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I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:45 AM
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if two people are socially awkward… how is it going to work? I feel like one has to be somewhat friendly or social for those two to get to know each other. Usually if it’s a couple that is socially awkward, it’s because they have similar interest/hobbies & met through that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:44 AM
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To a certain extent, there’s also a demographic of guys i’ve seen who are dumbfounded when they’ve spent months at the gym and improve their appearance & still can’t find a relationship. It’s really their personality … I would agree that looks gets you in, but in the case of someone with really bad social skills… they definitely need that improvement edit: you all are replying the same, so i’ll just add that it was years OR months. These men looked physically stronger and more muscular, their ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:50 AM
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i don’t think anyone thinks it’s easy but i’m not sure what you expect people to say ? Like yes it takes effort… But what is another person going to do about it? If the fact remains the same, they will just state that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:42 AM
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Yes, it’s obvious all of those things affect your personality but when people say they have a “good personality” it usually just means they are pleasant to be around and know how to converse in a pleasant manner. Anyone can learn how to do that. No matter you interests, flaws, hobbies.. You can always learn to have better social skills & relationship skills. Tons of people grow up in extremely traumatic, abusive, unfortunate environments and still manage to live great lives and have good relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:29 AM
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exactly, when men say “women get away with so much” im always like… yes … white women. Black women do not get the same treatment, it’s a more complex issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:59 PM
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Personally, i don’t date online - So i can’t really speak on what goes on there. However, i feel like men don’t necessarily treat the tradwife or loyal girl automatically better. Plenty of girls still deal with lies, being cheated on, manipulated, not being valued, etc. And men who at the core, have distain for women, are the ones who are more likely to do those things. I’ve seen guys have good gf, who only slept with them or had a low body count, were good to them, then start to listen to andre…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:52 PM
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The worst part is, relationships are already challenging without all of this BS. There’s a lot of emotional maturity that is required and can be a great tool to grow as a person but it feels like this generation is so stunted in that aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:43 PM
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Yes but find me a “high value” female content creator that even has a possible case or conviction open for trafficking or pimping men or even committing similar crimes against men. You can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:24 PM
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So talking about your own experience means you should receive threats like that? You are clearly arguing in bad faith here. If some men was saying they were happier single with no wife you wouldn’t have this type of distain for them and justify it. I am starting to think that it’s not that you don’t see the pushback and criticism some women get… It’s that it’s not enough for you. They should be punished even more. Because personally, even the women who push “high value” content are indeed critic…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:21 PM
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What the commenter said isn’t false. He may have given other advice but he definitely sold courses on how to be a pimp (& possibly has done sex trafficking) but men are completely okay with it & will even defend him to no ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:14 PM
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literally this whole sub is an example LOL plus they are not redpill at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:12 PM
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Mhmmm… I’d argue that race also plays into this. I doubt that a black woman for example would also get away with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:10 PM
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Most men and women today are two sides of the same coin. I’m a woman and i’ve noticed how many men just have a huge distrust for men, are quick to make assumptions & date as if they are getting all their advice from redpill/PUA content. They don’t even understand how much that actually affects their ability to connect. I don’t even date online either. It’s equally as annoying as a woman to be with men who have these beliefs yet don’t want women who generalize men. Social media is so toxic for al…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:05 PM
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They do get shamed, like everyday, on this sub and all over the manosphere lol I am so tired of this argument because it’s clear that today, most men are very vocal about their dislike for such women. It’s just that both genders haven’t realized they are two sides of the same coin
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:58 PM
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We have stats for single people and people in relationships which is not as drastic as numbers in Japan. Close to 50% of men in the US (in their 20s) are in relationships, which means the number of men that have been on dates is most likely way higher. Japan also has very specific issues around gender that can explain this issue. Women are way more targeted with things like hidden cameras and gender dynamics are quite different. I don’t think western men want to compare themselves to Japanese me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:55 PM
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Articles aren’t solid proof that the same things are currently happening here or a promise that they will. We have actual numbers and they are very different than what was mentioned in the comment i replied to. In the US, close to 50% of men in their 20s are in relationships, so that means the amount of men that have been on dates is most likely way higher. Some japanese men are also very predatory, women get filmed without their consent like crazy & there’s a huge hidden camera problem as well …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:45 PM
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that’s for Japan though… There’s a lot of cultural norms & gender dynamics that are not present in the west. It would be more valuable to asses the statistics from western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:20 PM
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i edited it lol, coping has a real definition and i didn’t know it was a swear word in this sub. I haven’t been notified by mods either so no need to be this dramatic, i think this is probably just a way to avoid facing the real argument but alas.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:04 PM
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maybe it’s the women you’ve been with lol, cause 6 months with no kiss isn’t even something any average woman would want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:23 PM
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yeah men who talk like this are a big 🚩 and probably have been hurt lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:21 PM
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exactly 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:20 PM
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As a woman with less sexual experiences, it’s definitely true . A lot of women like me take longer to get comfortable and have mental hang ups and i can definitely say i’ve frustrated men bc of it in the past even though they liked the idea of being with a low body count girl/virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:17 PM
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Damn… she sounds very immature and dramatic, but i wouldn’t say that’s something most women do. Was she young or had little experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:00 PM
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edit: apparently you got triggered by a word in my first sentence so i removed it just for you lol. Men will pursue women for months, take them out on dates, spend money, watch courses on how to pursue women, go to the gym just to make themselves more appealing to women and have sex with them. Maybe you don’t realize because you don’t do those things and you’re also not a woman who is at the receiving end of it. And as i said, for relationships and marriage being men ruined, those are due to add…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:57 PM
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I think you’re just chronically online if you genuinely think this is something women are afraid of. There’s millions of men out there that pursue women irl. Also women don’t like too much porn because men addicted to it can’t perform real sex properly. Their brain is fried up and causing them to have ED but it’s mostly the man that will suffer the consequences. For us it’s mostly a turn off that can cause a break up. A man jerking himself off to a screen all day is just unattractive and unappea…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:50 PM
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right, people on here have no grip on reality and need to touch grass for real
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:31 PM
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Exactly…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:31 PM
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because they express that most of the time. Also after interacting with men for a while it’s quite easy to spot the difference between a man that’s genuinely interested in a relationship VS sex. Unless he’s a major fboy who plays mind games and lies about his intentions, but most men aren’t like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:23 AM
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but in your comment you say that people are telling you that “it is using people for sex” , how exactly do you approach female friends when you are interested in them ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:21 AM
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this whole « league » and chad conversation is getting tiring. It also has nothing to do with this subject. People can date within their leagues and still not want to marry someone bc of their character traits or difference in opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:17 AM
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well….
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:14 AM
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But it’s not “labels” these are terms that have specific meaning. I just think it’s important to understand what we’re speaking of, you’re defining vulnerability in ways that aren’t actually related to vulnerability. I also never said that men need to indulge in emotion to the same extent as women either. Men who are capable of being vulnerable exist & they don’t behave like women at all. And stop saying it’s dangerous, there’s no real basis to that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:12 AM
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Yes but he also said that these people mention sex specifically so even if it’s not the woman herself, other people may view the situation the same way. And we also don’t know how OP presented himself and what he told these people… I think if your intentions are constantly misunderstood then perhaps you need to express yourself more effectively when you’re telling outsiders about said situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:08 AM
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Dwelling on emotion is not considered being vulnerable at all - it’s called ruminating. That’s my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:43 AM
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i think you should read my precious comment again, im not repeating the same thing. Im also done replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:38 AM
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exactly 🤣 it’s almost always about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:09 AM
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eh… to be fair, you guys are assuming that most guys break the friendship barrier because of romantic feelings but the truth is that it’s usually just to fuck and still friendzone you. That’s why women can get irritated & would prefer to know that this was something the guy wanted in the first place. If a man genuinely tells me he’s wants to date or ask me out on a date bc he has feelings, even if i don’t like him, i would not criticize him. I would be respectful about it. Especially if we’re ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:02 AM
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i think being friends first only works if you’re still in highschool or college, if you’re older than that, don’t think this advice is for you. Unless you genuinely just happen to be friends with a girl and it’s organic. Usually i’ve seen it happen when people have friend groups in common. But if you want to date women, just focus on dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:00 AM
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Being vulnerable doesn’t equate dwelling on emotion either. That’s called rumination and is also considered harmful in psychology. I think you have an inaccurate or outdated idea of what vulnerability is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:42 AM
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George and Amal where full blown adults when they started dating, she was in her 30s and had a successful career. That is nowhere near the 18 year old the OP speaks on. Wilmer and Demi where actually criticized a lot, even other men Ryan Seacrest (or wtv his name is) lowkey called him out and now Demi lovato is literally super vocal about how that relationship messed her up. But i think you need to understand the difference between people not agreeing with people dating teens who just got out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:40 AM
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George and Amal where full blown adults when they started dating, she was in her 30s and had a successful career. That is nowhere near the 18 year old the OP speaks on. Wilmer and Demi where actually criticized a lot, even other men Ryan Seacrest (or wtv his name is) lowkey called him out and now Demi lovato is literally super vocal about how that relationship messed her up. But i think you need to understand the difference between people not agreeing with people dating teens who just got out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:40 AM
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No, i think they were actually trying to show where YOUR mind is at lol. If being younger is the only indicative of value, why wouldn’t a 14 year be technically more appealing than an 18 year old? You didn’t answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:34 AM
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No it’s not lol I’m 27, i couldn’t careless if an 18 year old is considered of more value by a man. It’s probably not a man i would want to date anyway. Also, from personal experience, i have gotten pursued way more in my mid to late 20s than when i was 18-21. The men i date are better looking, more stable, and definitely are just more my type so i don’t really think this idea of “value” necessarily means every woman will be more successful because she older or younger. I think if you’re fairly …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:23 AM
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I think it’s probably cultural, same way that if western women go to muslim countries and dress or act the same, they will be criticized. I do think there’s no logic in encouraging women to make their own choices then vilifying a woman for wanting to be more modest. But I think a lot of people also assume this because of current events around the world and what is happening to many women from muslim countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:03 AM
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how? Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:57 AM
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It’s not a dumb game, i think you just can’t debate or read properly. No one said men don’t experience this - like whatsoever. If so… Please state where i, or the previous commenter said men don’t experience any type of discrimination. They were specifically replying to the statement “if a woman is in distress people will help you” , they showed you that the statement alone isn’t accurate. They added no other statement and said nothing about men’s experience. You then went off on some tangent an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:49 AM
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Yes please go heal. I think you need that because you’re not getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:08 PM
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definitely!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:23 PM
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Not really, this is just another comment about their revenge fantasy of women hitting the wall. It’s just another manipulative way of excusing the behaviour that was called out in the first comment. So i’m not even going to get into this. Again, yawwn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:22 PM
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even beyond that, plenty of slave owners and racist people even convinced themselves and slaves that their conditions where good. They were housed, fed, and that things could be worse for them. They were indoctrinated that way… Same way they want to convince women that being in a position that is less than a man is good and ultimately better than any other type of lifestyle they could ever choose. Also, the thought of being inherently different - in this case of lower status. TRP & tradcons thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:01 PM
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yawwwwnnnn … you all sound the same
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:51 PM
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Ok but you literally said, you can’t marry. You’ve made a decision, now have some balls and confront the issue like an adult. If she likes her new body good, if not & doesn’t seem to want to lose weight then you know what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:04 PM
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im so tired of these mind games lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:02 PM
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situationships and 5 year relationships where marriage is actually a real consideration is different. Men tend to be straightforward when it comes to these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:55 PM
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yawn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:53 PM
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their excuses is that women today are still on anti depressants and do drugs so it’s whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:48 PM
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tbh as a black woman, i see lots of similarities between how TRP/Manosphere men think and racists lol they really sounds the same, one is just more normalized than the other
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:47 PM
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right, it’s because of things like that that i think women should just do wtv they want as long as it doesn’t harm them or others. Men don’t truly value one type of woman. They can be just as superficial, fickle, and there for the wrong reasons despite being with a “good girl”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:42 PM
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No one is saying it’s not okay to get to know someone and change their minds, we’re saying voice that instead of stringing another person along. How is that hard to grasp?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:40 PM
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if he knows he won’t marry her it’s probably because his mind is made up regarding this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:39 PM
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bingo!! I feel like no one talks about this. No just excuse but even encouraged, especially in these spaces (TRP)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:35 PM
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yeah i saw another comment of hers complaining “why can’t a guy bump into me in a grocery store & help me pick up my oranges” or something like that… Life is not a movie lol that’s probably not going to happen. Even if… he’ll probably bump into you , say sorry and go about his day.. But if you think he’s cute, you can show interest, have a convo, and usually that’s more than enough if he’s attracted. It’s not super hard. OP’s issue is probably just shyness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:17 PM
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no one asked you to be Jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:12 PM
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i think it depends on the environment, promiscuous women usually hang out with each other. Women who cheat and play guys too. I’ve encountered them and have had some friends like that in the past but the friendships never really lasted. So you’re probably right but i think to assume that it’s the average woman, or most, is extreme. Plenty of women sleep with a few men and don’t have crazy numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:56 PM
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Yeah i’ve seen this happen and know men who are in relationships with women who they have zero intentions marrying. I feel like a lot of them also aren’t fully aware of how shitty that can be for a woman, especially if she’s good to him and genuinely sees a future. It goes deeper because we have a biological clock and 5 years in the wrong relationship can drastically affect our ability to even have a family. But that’s why women need to have boundaries and demand commitment before engaging thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:49 PM
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so you wouldn’t call her stupid lol, you’d help her.. but somehow when people try to extend understand to other women (which can help them) it’s wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:40 PM
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1 - Don’t get me wrong, i know how women can act but i don’t see it as “thirsty”. I only have brothers and around a lot of guys (cousins, family friends) many of them are attractive. Some of my friends call them cute and have crushes, they can get women, women tell them they are handsome, etc.. But it’s nothing that insane lol definitely not like “a horny man would approach a woman” i don’t see the same amount of persistence and energy. But everyone has different experiences, i’m not seeing you’…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:30 PM
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I don’t online date and i have found my partners by getting approached so yes they do - but it’s usually in social settings where people are talking to each other: Events, friend parties, hobbies, etc… I think men will approach if they deem that it’s an appropriate environment. Im also introverted but i push myself to go out. What activities do you do that are social? Do you go out with friends? What is your overall social life like? Also i’ve realized even though i’m quite friendly - i can stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:11 PM
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I don’t really know what her social life is like. I have a decent amount of friends and still force myself to get out and i know how to flirt or give signals. I’m not the best, but still, it’s enough. I would say attractiveness would play a part, but she says she goes to the gym frequently and is in good shape so i doubt it’s for that reason. I think it may be how she comes off or lack of social encounters since she doesn’t go out often. Men do approach but if it’s in the right context and if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:31 PM
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So because men refuse to report it , it means the sexual harassment women receive is less valid or that they should do the same? I’m not sure i understand the point here. Also sexual harassment does describe specific behaviours it’s not vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:01 PM
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i think it’s just an example to counter the argument that men love unconditionally when it comes to relationships. Not that it applies to all situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:59 PM
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You’re clearly biased and not open to a real conversation. Someone provides a valid counter argument that women in distress don’t always get help and suddenly it’s “part of life”. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:56 PM
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Children, pets, and women get abused every day and aren’t loved unconditionally. Also if you remove sex off the table… how many men will genuinely care about women or their relationships with women? Apart from maybe their family members. Men who say this are completely delusional and blinded by their shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:53 PM
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she says she’s introverted so i think it probably has more to do with that… Like as a woman, i can 100% it’s easier even doing the approaching. It’s simply saying hi and striking up a convo and the guy will probably make a move if he’s interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:50 PM
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as a woman i would say #2 is the accurate one… 1- isn’t accurate, to me, the men i’ve dated always approached me first and i found them very attractive. So if attractive men approach me i don’t really need to put much thought into doing the approaching. It may seem like i’m not attracted to most men but no, it’s cause the men that interest me are already available to me. I don’t even really notice my surroundings and check guys out at all. I met my ex at a party and he was extremely attractive b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:43 PM
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tbh that’s highly unlikely.. Women get cat called and groped in public, we won’t just report some guy bc he’s ugly and tried to talk to us. This is RP fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:33 PM
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touché
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:13 PM
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ok then perhaps that’s an issue within your relationship and not every other women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:10 PM
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Exactly, If it’s not your thing, that’s completely fine. Just find other things that make you comfortable.
/r/seduction30/01/24 04:54 PM
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would you call your daughter an idiot if she ends up in an abusive relationship? I’m curious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:45 PM
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gypsy rose blanchard literally got 250+ love letters from men all around the globe. You’re definitely correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:27 PM
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i think that’s too much of a simplistic way to think. You can marry your ideal type and 10 years down the road have marital issues that affect your sex life. You could go through disease, grief, hormonal issues (esp for the wife after kids), financial stress… the list goes on, that can affect your mental health and the health of the relationship which can cause a DB. Relationship upkeep is way more important. If they really married someone they settled with chances are there were probably sex is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:02 PM
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i think so too
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:51 PM
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There are men that stop sleeping with their wives too lol… why are you making assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:46 PM
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Absolutely! I have only brothers and would 100% tell them the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:03 PM
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As someone who dates men, men care a lot about what their friends think. Idk why men fool themselves to think they are so different…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:02 PM
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he’s 5’8
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:54 PM
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School shooters and extremist are more likely to be that way because they’ve repressed themselves for so long & are now exploding. That’s the opposite of emotional regulation, vulnerability actually helps regulate one’s emotions. I don’t think you understand human psychology…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:53 PM
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I mean if it’s that bad you can explore with your partner sexually. Bring people in, try new things, open things up sexually, etc… I still think there are more benefits to having a LTR (provided that it’s healthy) than none at all. Most people wouldn’t want to spend their whole lives alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:20 AM
3

unfortunately some feel special when men tell them this… The root of it is typically insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:24 AM
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As a woman, this is terrible and makes no sense lol Why would i share a real intimate moment like sex with someone i can’t even go on a date on? You got things backwards here. I’ve never felt like being invited on a date meant i felt like a whore. I take it as a nice gesture from a man who’s interested in me & plenty don’t pressure for sex whatsoever. I haven’t slept with many people and i think generally that’s what dictates if a woman will sleep with you early on, except if she’s playing some …
/r/seduction30/01/24 02:15 AM
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i feel like you’re overthinking it… I’ve literally only been invited on dinner (or lunch) dates as first dates & typically the guy even plans something afterwards like an activity or going somewhere scenic. I really appreciate those types of dates tbh - i’ve been on one coffee date and it was super awkward, but i think it was the guy & lack of chemistry rather than what we were doing. Also: I don’t date online and only meet men in real life, through friends, hobbies or events… So i think that pl…
/r/seduction30/01/24 01:56 AM
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can you provide sources for the statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:39 AM
1

I think some men actually want a romantic partner and not just sex. They want love, affection, to live life with someone by their side, companionship & the emotional/physical intimacy of a romantic partner. I think maybe men who haven’t had the chance to explore sexuality the way they’ve wanted to may seek FWB relationships or casual fling more but even players get tired and eventually find value in having a partner - even without necessarily wanting kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:34 AM
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also mentioning only tall celebrities isn’t an argument because plenty of short male celebrities are also considered attractive; Zac Efron, Bruno Mars, Tom Holland, Kit Harrington, Oscar Isaac I mean the list could be long. You’re cherry picking specific people that fit your argument but the reality is that there are plenty of short kings that get love too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:19 AM
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To be fair, i grew up in the era when One Direction was the thing so perhaps my affinity for Harry Styles comes from that. I think he’s pretty handsome but i wouldn’t assume he’s everyone’s type that’s why i didn’t mention him in my initial comment and mentioned more objectively attractive men. He also makes music so plenty of people are attracted to that side of him, i wouldn’t use that as an argument to say women base their attraction solely on “trends” even within ALL the men mentioned - whet…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:57 PM
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harry style is handsome yes… the other ones meh… they are hyped online sure, but don’t really know women in real life that fawn over them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:41 PM
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to be fair i was a virgin and have felt that way before. There’s just shit you experience from men from a very young age as a woman that can make you have those types of opinions. The guy first guy i dated was quite the opposite and genuinely kind & made me feel safe but i had to get out of that mindset first.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:45 PM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:38 PM
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i agree… now i couldn’t careless how a guy treats me specifically… He needs to have genuine respect for women and just people in general. I don’t want to be the only woman you’ve ever treated well, it’s a huge red flag. At some point that novelty will wear off or he may see flaws he doesn’t like and boom… He’ll treat you the same. No thanks. I need someone consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:37 PM
9

bingo!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:27 PM
21

right.. like that’s pretty much the beauty standard now and always has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:25 PM
5

Yes he’s so talented and is so good at playing evil/mean characters is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:24 PM
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Jacob Elordi is actually handsome though? like he is a good looking white man who is an actor and that’s always been appealing to women no matter the decade. You can take a look at timothy chalamet, he’s not tall but he has charm and a good looking white man who is an actor and girls go crazy over him. They are also both incredibly talented and i’ve found them even more attractive after watching their movies/shows. Once you actually watch them on screen it’s easy to understand why girls find the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:12 PM
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Your examples don’t really include all of what he says about women in general, promiscuity and dating. Plenty of men are successful yet awful people who shouldn’t be role models… I am just saying that men who like him and adore him have quite literally zero problem with every problematic thing he says or does, the hedonistic lifestyle he lives yet want women to be the complete opposite. All of that is just flawed ideas around gender essentialism and hypocrisy. His business of pimping women exist…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:11 PM
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He’s not even a husband and has never been. I’m pretty sure he just has children out of wedlock, he’s not traditional by any means. It’s really sad how anybody gets called a “role model” these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:02 PM
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being emotionally vulnerable: accepting & expressing emotions whether it’s difficult, scary thing to do. Willingness to accept the risks that come with it as well. Recognizing things like shame, fear, anxiety, loneliness, anger and being willing to open and honest about that with your partner. It’s definitely earned through trust but i think having a mistrust of women as a whole in the first place would be counterproductive in the context of a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:05 AM
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i wouldn’t say that because plenty of super young men, as young as 11-12 are being shaped by these online spaces. They don’t have experiences but they follow famous manosphere influencers who teach them those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:24 AM
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Honestly losing mine very late (late 20s) did make me feel very alienated from other women’s experiences. I find that men are more judgmental and many don’t want to deal with a virgin, especially after a certain age. ORRR some of them put you on a weird pedestal and assume that that’s all it takes for you to be a good partner when in reality - i don’t really know how to be one as i have limited experience. Also my limited experience means i won’t necessarily be the best in bed & that’s something…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:12 AM
1

so do you equate vulnerability to being unable to regulate your emotions? Also do you think showing emotion is being vulnerable?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:05 AM
1

do you think all women are toxic and playing games?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:03 AM
2

right! As a woman i’ve struggled being vulnerable and know so many other women who have. I think women may show emotion more, but aren’t necessarily vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:00 AM
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tbh i’ve never ever pressured a man to be vulnerable with me, however, the ones who are overly cautious about it are hard to be in relationships with (esp TRP men). There’s only so much you can hide and sometimes being honest about what you go through is essential to a good functioning relationship because it will always come out - cause you’re a person not a robot. And the feelings of distrust towards me as a person, because of your past experiences with women, also shows. This is just from my …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:58 AM
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I think it’s more so that tate and their followers hold women to a certain standard but then will not only disregard whether or not tate himself is a “moral” person based on those standards. He himself is pimping women and needed promiscuous women to become rich, encourages and showed men how to do it but then want women to have these amazing values in order to be considered for a relationship. Most of tate followers would realistically hate for their young daughter to run into or fall for a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:12 AM
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tbh all women i know who got an abortion where in relationships but did not want a child for different reasons & their partners wanted it too. I’m not sure why there is an assumption that it’s a “304” thing. There are probably women in your life that you love/respect and know aren’t promiscuous that have had abortions they just won’t talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:56 AM
2

i’m also curious
/r/seduction29/01/24 01:14 AM
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Please don’t listen to this BS. Dont just try and “control” your emotions because it will be seen as less masculine by a woman - you’re still letting someone outside of yourself dictate your actions & emotions - and this time it’s just paired with shame around being a man. What you’re actually experiencing sounds like limerance, or some form of attachment issue. You should be able to date someone without feeling this way and there’s lots of information out there that can help. It’s something bot…
/r/seduction27/01/24 05:17 AM
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sounds like every other toxic dating coach on the internet… Yawn.
/r/seduction27/01/24 05:12 AM
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do you realize other hormones affects oxytocin? Like testosterone is one of them. Women have more oxytocin in general. It’s not accurate because you are all not looking at our full bodily functions and how other hormones are present in the body.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:57 PM
3

the commenter called you damaged
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:53 PM
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you actually did in another comment though…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:47 PM
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this is exactly what i was thinking but could not put into words
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:36 PM
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that’s exactly it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:35 PM
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No but like, he probably has zero experience even kissing or something bc this is too much 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:30 PM
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Body releasing certain hormones does not mean women don’t like or enjoy sex though, or even worse.. that it has anything to do with love. Women release certain hormones that make them more relaxed which helps the vagina loosen for penetration. Our bodies serves functions, men may release oxytocin but it’s not a translation of “love”… because post nut clarity (according to men) is very real and many of them can feel completely different after they orgasm. Those hormones are simply evolutionary tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:51 PM
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Well you’re comparing two extremes, i’m sure most men would rather have a girl who’s confident and healthy minded. If her self-esteem is too low it might cause some issues in the relationship so i don’t see how anyone, esp with any type of dating experience with such person would want that. Having insecurities is different than a low self esteem, low self esteem isn’t something that can be fixed by anyone but yourself. Also, i find that low self esteem women can easily be manipulated unfortunate…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:32 PM
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that’s the part he doesn’t want to mention lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:15 PM
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😭😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:05 PM
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LOLLLL this is funny, he’s gonna get mad you for clicking on his profile and calling him out too 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:36 PM
2

alright buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:35 PM
5

bingo!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:34 PM
1

✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:32 PM
0

I wasn’t even commenting at you in the first place lmao… you’re 12
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:31 PM
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dude… you’re the one who sounds triggered at this point. Clicking on someone’s profile on an app isn’t a crazy thing. This sounds like projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:30 PM
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yes, to say NO 🧢 meaning i’m not lying. I never spoke about you. If anything i was talking to another commenter. you sound so childish 😂😩
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:28 PM
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Well, if i click on your profile that’s what appears. But my point remains anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:27 PM
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I never said you were lying about anything
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:23 PM
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I mean sure, you don’t care because you had your own motives but it doesn’t really apply to my specific comment here that’s all i am saying. I’m not triggered, it took 2 seconds to see lol But anyway, the way you talk and type about this “foreign model” tell me everything i need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:21 PM
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from your comments it seems like you had to go elsewhere and find a foreign woman… i’d argue that these women have other motives when it comes to relationships with american/western men. Your argument doesn’t really makes sense in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:10 PM
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Did you make a point tell them how many girls you had before them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:05 PM
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heh… not really. Most couples have shared values, at least the ones in healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:59 PM
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That’s whatever. I never said you have to tell them either, you do what you want. Plenty of girls don’t tell guys it’s their first time as well. Just don’t tell me i am lying or 🧢 when i state my own opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:58 PM
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Good for you. But this isn't about just you. Most women wouldn't take him that's my point It is about me though, because OP asked women to answer, and i stated my opinion. Yeah because listening to women have produced so much good results over the years when guys didn't question it huh? Listen, if you find a girl that you like - listen to what she wants and needs, especially if she’s a virgin since most adult women aren’t in the first place. When you date one girl, you don’t date most women so a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:50 PM
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yuppppp
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:43 PM
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anyone can choose who they want honestly… but this is a debate sub & if you always want to be so loud about those things then expect feedback from people. But literally anyone can have any standards, no matter how ridiculous or hypocritical they are, men or women. People can only say their opinions if you talk about it to them, that’s life. Keep quiet & date who you want to date if it’s such an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:38 PM
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even 2 digits.. if you fucked 60 people and i kept it for myself my whole life then clearly were very different people…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:32 PM
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Why do you think you can tell someone what they would and wouldn’t want? You’re weird. I’m over 21, a virgin, so i’m not going to judge a man who’s the same. If i just wanted a hot guy to have sex with would’ve had that a long time ago… If you want to convince yourself otherwise because it makes you feel better then that’s your problem. You people will theorize all day about specific types of women without actually listening to them, i can guess that’s one of the reasons you’re unappealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:29 PM
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I don’t understand. If i’m not attracted to you why would i want to have sex with you? Attraction matters. No one said you have to be “so attractive”, you just have to be attractive to me… which is completely normal in a romantic relationship. The fact that he’s a virgin won’t bother me at all, if anything it’s a plus because we can both explore something for the first time together.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:18 PM
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the things is, virgin women are virgin because they have a certain set of values & standards for a partner - a promiscuous man most likely doesn’t have those values or else he wouldn’t be promiscuous. It’s just not appealing to virgin women. Also, i don’t think people have a problem with a man wanting a virgin specifically, but the hypocrisy behind why they want a virgin woman. It’s not because they hold themselves to a certain standard or have values (as i stated). It’s usually rooted in misogy…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:58 PM
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it’s cap. I am one, i don’t care. In other comments he’s speaking on being unattractive, chances are, that’s the real issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:27 AM
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thanks but no ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:24 AM
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🧢
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:38 AM
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I didn’t, like i said… assuming.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:35 AM
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Did i say it’s not a valid concern? I was simply stating a fact. I’m not saying it’s not important or that male victims should be dismissed, they shouldn’t at all… you’re assuming things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:39 AM
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I don’t mind cause i am one myself, although i’ve done the kissing and dated a few people. He does have to be physically attractive though (to me) and we’d have to have a good connection, but those are normal things to want in a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:30 AM
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And that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:26 AM
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the commenter above yours(daniiiuiiil)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:25 AM
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yeah, but you’d rather take information from someone with a personality disorder. Those people do also do well in very successful high positions too, it’s because they are manipulative, masters at it even. That’s why he’s also successful with women. He probably doesn’t actually know how to act “normal” because he cannot feel many normal human emotions. Your bias is extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:40 PM
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well that’s also because of men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:35 PM
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It’s interesting that you view men & women exhibiting similar behaviour, yet view women as having “impure mating behaviour” but only some men as just individuals with no morals or desperate. Especially when nearly all commenters affirm the opposite of your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:31 PM
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Sure, but it’s almost non-issue due to technology these days. If you want to know or have serious doubts of paternity then there’s an actual way to know. And i’m skeptical about this evolutionary theory, i’d like some scientific evidence of this. I think this need came from creating the nuclear family, which is a social construct. We developed traits that help us mate as much as possible, sure, but the issue of paternity and not wanting resources to go to the wrong child is more sociological. We…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:20 PM
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It happens more than you think. He didn’t make a move in front of the guy i was dating either (obviously). They were both men who could get women too lol, not really simps… the guy just didn’t care because he thought i was attractive. Your point about men doing this because “women lie about having boyfriends” is completely false… plenty of men will still hit on and pursue women that are taken even with proof. You just seem out of touch and willing to find any excuse to avoid the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:31 AM
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i can guarantee he was not lol… The guy waited until he left to make a move as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:27 AM
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👏👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:53 AM
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I’ve literally had men SEE me with the guy i was dating, and still try to pursue me. Men are definitely not completely turned off by such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:50 AM
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Sure, but she can still cheat whether or not she was promiscuous before you. The only real way to know such thing is do a test.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:45 AM
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It’s 2022, you can know your paternity pretty early on in the pregnancy if it’s a concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:16 AM
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I wouldn’t say high value. I dated a redpill guy and he was more so a good manipulator, liar. He knew what to say to get what he wants, he likely learned those things from RP as well. Those men are just good at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:15 AM
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How are men who are promiscuous not desperate for attention/partners? They both are doing the same thing, which is sleeping with a bunch of randoms. I think promiscuity is just a red flag either way. A woman who keeps herself doesn’t want a man who spent years chasing pussy, those types of men have a whole league of red flags of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:12 AM
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Women are generally lazy, entitled, and blind to their own privilege. I really don't give a damn about your perspectives. Ok so this tell me everything i need to know. If you didn’t care about that perspective then you could’ve scrolled past the comment. I think men like you should indeed start gay relationships instead & adopt, it’s a great alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:02 AM
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The average married and cohabitating mother does only 20 hours of paid work a week. Serious question: And how many hours do you believe child care/cooking/home care takes? Especially considering there’s no clocking out. And that is without counting the fact that pregnancy and childbirth most likely affects women’s careers and abilities to advance the way men do. They’ve most likely sacrificed many career opportunities, pay raises & other opportunities ultimately impacting their income. 20k is qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:37 PM
1

Again… it doesn’t equate jealousy as it is emplied on PPD. I’ve seen more men here being jealous of young, pretty women so perhaps that is projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:44 PM
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and? Women spend money on their looks because society has always told women that their value is based on those things, so women of all ages, even teen girls, are hyper conscious of their looks. It’s only a result of that and it’s not just about age, it’s everything that has to do with the physical. This does not mean they are hostile or resentful towards young women because of their age/looks which is what jealousy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:59 PM
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yawn
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:03 PM
1

No they are not. None of the things you mentioned means jealousy, even younger women spend tons of money of their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:02 PM
1

You sound bitter 😂 go take a nap
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:27 PM
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Well, statistically speaking and historically speaking those types of relationships caused harm for both men and women. What you’ve personally seen is one thing, what happens on a global scale is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:25 PM
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Like i said, we do not have to define those roles based on the society that harms us. There’s a difference here. I am not saying partnership has no roles - but the way that these roles have been assigned, defined and forced upon us historically clearly oppressed both men and women in their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:19 PM
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No one is arguing whether or not younger people look better. We are speaking on whether or not older women are jealous of young women because of it. Most are not. This is just an assumption misogynistic men make when being criticized. Use your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:16 PM
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this is what your last two brain cells are telling you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:14 PM
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No, you clearly don’t really listen to women when they describe being in relationships with men. Men may do more things than before, but women are most of the time the primary caretakers as well as providing financially in the home. Wives/Mothers/Girlfriends still have a certain set of expectations and many women just find it extremely exhausting long term and i think many men are fully conscious of this because it’s simply expected. Of course, this is definitely not all men or counts for all re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:07 PM
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This is very true, a lot of my “aunts” are actually my mom’s friends from university, they remained close and now we treat each other like relatives. They are even closer now that they all have children that are out of the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:01 PM
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Maybe let’s start viewing relationships as a partnership instead of defining ourselves by roles predefined by the very society that harms us
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:56 PM
1

I’d suggest you read my original comment again
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:50 PM
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revenge fantasy because they are misogynistic. They don’t like women, they believe women have it too easy and the thought of them “hitting the wall” and becoming miserable after a certain age gives them a sense of satisfaction. This is what they are referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:33 PM
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but what’s with this obsession with thinking older women must be jealous? I am younger and never felt jealousy from older women. If speaking on men they simply give good advice that comes from experience. Of course there will be individuals that are bitter & jealous, but that’s not exclusive to one group. This idea that they are jealous is grossly overrated and just used to dismiss their often very valid criticism but that is not surprising coming from men who believe in “the wall” (not saying i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:29 PM
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I did make a point and the fact that you look at women having casual sex equals them deserving any “consequence” literally proves it right… You need to think before you type. It’s cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:49 PM
1

you didn’t make any point…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:28 PM
1

no, you’re actually super dense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:53 PM
1

completely missed the point
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:53 PM
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I didn’t shift anything, you didn’t understand. I am saying for example they may do things like rejecting gold diggers because their goal is to get casual sex with the least amount of effort/investment… but this has nothing to do with their actual view of women. These are just actions they do in order to have what they want. And i clearly said this is a different conversation recognizing that this isn’t related to what i am speaking on in my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:20 AM
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My comment isn’t exclusive to TRP, and like i said, i do believe many of those men do have those beliefs. They may have certain goals and look for certain traits in order to have those needs met… it seems that’s what you’re describing but that is a different conversation in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:33 AM
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Like i said in my comment it’s not all men. There’s definitely plenty of men who look for those things so you are not wrong at all. However, if we look at men who are in the manosphere, RPers and other similar minded men - my comment becomes pretty accurate. And those same men will not be shy about stating what i say, saying they do not care about a woman’s financial stability and other things.. They mostly care about her looks and sexual history. This how they assign value to women. She can hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:37 AM
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I swear! Btw thanks for the award ❤️☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:47 PM
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I don’t believe it’s that uncommon. But if that specific phrase bothered you, you can skip over. My point remains the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:43 PM
3

You’re extremely dense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:33 PM
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Ok and i just explained why women don’t find it beneficial, use your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:06 PM
4

How is this equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:56 PM
3

well said!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:45 PM
4

Okay, and i literally wrote about this in my comment. You proved my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:43 PM
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I mentioned it because it’s an example of how men view women and sex, not because i think this term applies to casual sex relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:42 PM
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What makes you think i came to that conclusion because of such situation? That’s never happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:34 PM
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Of course, men seeing (casual) sex as something that decrease the other person’s value and increases their own value then it will never be an equal & satisfying exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:25 PM
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i completely agree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:19 PM
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As a younger woman, never felt that way about older women at all. I think they look out younger women a lot of times and give great advice. Men just assume because a woman is older and doesn’t agree with that they say, then she must be jealous. But i’ve never felt that jealousy from older women. I’ve personally even had men assume i’m older and bitter because i’ve disagreed with them (online), it’s just simply an assumption they make and a way to discredit the criticism they receive. And tbh, if…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:11 PM
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Let me tell you why as a woman: Casual sex is not beneficial for women because of men’s view of sex. As a woman, it’s very easy to realize that men want sex but ultimately believes a woman who has a lot of sex is unworthy of love/respect, all she is good for is that act, nothing else. She is deemed a slut, whore, etc… And that’s about it, it doesn’t matter if she did it 10 years ago, she’ll always be just that. And the woman who hasn’t, is worthy of love, wifey, etc…The madonna whore complex is …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:57 PM
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Hard to say how many men are actually in genuinely happy relationships with good sex and balanced contributions I think that’s rare regardless of gender honestly. Anyway, like i said… majority of men are still in relationships. The dynamics of relationships is not something we can really assume. If we’re speaking on singleness alone, we see that it’s a minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:37 PM
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Sure, but again, communication. If a partner states they want to wait then usually there’s a conversation about why, or you can simply ask. I feel like this “issue” is really a non-issue. People just prefer to assume and project instead of just having a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:50 PM
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Well that’s for the partner to decide. As long as they are honest there’s no reason to act like this is a huge issue and that someone is automatically dishonest and untrustworthy because of this. Sex is not owed, no matter what lifestyle they had previously. The only important thing is communication and honesty so that all parties can decide whether or not to go forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:12 PM
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Again, if they are being honest about their actions. How exactly does that make them less trustworthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:09 PM
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So this means 72% are in relationships and or having sex…? Which is a majority. The study is called “a profile of single americans” by pewresearch
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:08 PM
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So why are women underrepresented in OLD in the first place? because women can be single and still choose to avoid OLD as it is over saturated with men who want hook ups. It’s just simply not the ideal place for someone looking for a long term relationship which is what women prioritize. And shouldn’t both genders have equal “offline” pair up rates if the women not on OLD are in monogamous relationships? Well, in real life numbers are indeed much more balanced. If we just look at single rates fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:24 PM
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Honestly… people can choose to act differently as they wish. You don’t have the repeat the same patterns at all, i don’t get why so many people on here can’t comprehend this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:14 PM
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A man can have a higher sexual number than a woman and it doesn’t mean they have to fuck different girls every week or that they have to have “insane” numbers…. I’m not sure why you’re think in extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:21 PM
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I think the most attractive men would still get most of the attention of women. Just like the most attractive women get the most attention from men. But i don’t think 80/20 would really apply, more men would definitely get matches. Most women do not use apps because they aren’t interested in hook ups which is what most apps offer, they want long term. Women who look for hook ups have a vast majority of choice and since they can get the most conventionally attractive men they go for them, and i h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:11 PM
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we’re talking in circles you actually cannot get it 😭 When i said “they can’t “ it was because of your hypothetical situation example in your previous comment. I was saying the only way to avoid not putting time and effort and have sex is with sex work. There are men who still put time and effort towards multiple women because they have more of a sex drive. Men can be in relationships and seek sex work Men can be in relationships and put time and effort towards other women Men can remain single …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:58 PM
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most men are promiscuous and more horny on average than women. Ok so you answered the question. Men are more promiscuous so they will still seek out sex work of any form even in relationships. This is the whole point. Now I know you probably thinking I just proved your point Yup, you did. If most men could leave their house and see and exceptionally beautiful women and could easily pick her up and seduce her then he not need to pay for hookers nearly as much. Yeah.. and it does not happen so the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:10 PM
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you’re dense, i don’t agree, i’m just over the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:45 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:31 PM
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Like i said get a grip. Men who can get girls because of superficial traits aren’t inherently in healthy relationships… You sound very insecure deep down, no offence
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:18 PM
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get a grip… single adult men are a minority. Most men can find relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:10 PM
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You can look up marriage rates before women’s emancipation. It even went up to 90+ % in the 1920s. And you can also answer the question… Why was there still prostitution if most men had access to sex through their wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:08 PM
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yeah it’s based on tinder statistics on swipes… but tinder gender ratio is like 9:1 , there’s WAY more men than women on there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:44 AM
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do you think men who are able to get laid would go on these forums in numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:37 AM
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So true!! For me it’s not religious either, so i completely understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:55 AM
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Ok so why did prostitution exist when nearly all men had submissive wives at home (even marital rape was normal & fully legal too)?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:52 AM
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Ok, you can have flaws and be in a healthy relationship…. did you not know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:51 AM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:51 AM
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what does that have to do with finding a healthy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:52 PM
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going from one extreme to the other doesn’t mean you’ve discovered anything or that it is the truth… I find that many RP are not as awakened as they believe
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:15 PM
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not really
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:10 PM
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How? Prostitution is one of the oldest professions, even back when every man had a wife and women depended on them for survival there was still prostitution. If they had internet i’m sure porn would be no different. Also, 70% of adult men are in relationships, they don’t stop watching porn… one thing won’t necessarily impact the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:06 PM
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yep, completely agree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 05:24 PM
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Well because they seek it so often? Like at some point they achieve their goal of sleeping with women. Women work differently and many prefer LTRs over casual sex which would explain why.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 05:23 PM
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everyone has flaws… that’s not a realistic view of a healthy relationship at all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 05:06 PM
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I don’t really agree, this depends on what you look for in a relationship. I want a partnership, i’m not overly concerned with a man being above me. I can agree with income, but that is because i know i’m the only one who will eventually be pregnant, carry, give birth which will make it so that i cannot work myself. So me and my child (or multiple if we repeat the process) will rely on him & $ = survival. I think it’s reasonable considering we’re both making a sacrifice here. I am confident as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 05:05 PM
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but choice is important here, because access to sex isn’t the same for both parties. Many men are attracted to movements like RP just to be able to sleep with women, they clearly seek it way more. Personally, i know i can download an app and have sex with multiple men, i just don’t see the value in it. Many other women feel the same. That is why it’s important to try and meet women outside of apps and not base your entire view of women on things like tinder. Too many guys on here do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:57 PM
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Yes, i am one and i don’t tell men until i’ve gotten to know them because i’ve had guys manipulate me in the past. Luckily i have brothers who are caring and if i’m in a really bad situation i can go to them and they’ll be honest about what men do. This is a real problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:53 PM
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i agree. I’m a virgin and never understood that, but my friends who’ve slept with a lot of guys talk about this. I know i can have sex with hot guys & get attention but i genuinely want something more and don’t mind waiting. I don’t see hooking up as empowering personally, i just want a healthy relationship. I’ve travelled a lot, and experienced a lot of things outside of sex, to me not doing those things is missing out on life. Sex to me is something else, more personal and intimate i’d rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:48 PM
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I completely agree. My only problem with some men who hold this ideology is that they do not apply this to themselves. They genuinely believe men can sleep with tons of women and not be impacted and ultimately even cheat and it being justified because they “worked hard”. Especially when research even shows that pair bonding/sexual partners affects men too. I am a virgin at 25 and i really don’t see the appeal with men that are overly concerned with virgins, unless it’s because they are virgins t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:43 PM
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Real love does exist, but it’s not going to be the fairytale it’s often presented as. i think there’s a difference here. Healthy long term relationships exists - that is love and it’s has nothing to do with attachment which is what most consider “love”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:21 PM
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bingo! It’s crazy that they can see real studies, proof & still have this level of cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:06 PM
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because not every girl is “Stacey” who’s on tinder and talks to 5 guys at the same time. Most women i know are not like this & actually can go periods of time being celibate if they don’t meet a guy they can be in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:05 PM
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We’re not in the 1950s anymore…. women can drive, most women also financially participate in most households while being the main caretakers ( after carrying and giving birth, sometimes multiple times), if your confidence is being sacrificed then your relationship is just unhealthy and that’s not something exclusive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:56 PM
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This is spot on! I think there’s nothing wrong with getting advice from people that just have more experience in life. I also don’t do online dating, and even now, those apps always have way more men than women so i think those guys who strictly focus on that part of dating need to take a step back in that regards. It’s definitely not the only way to meet people at all and your advice really appreciated. People don’t realize that they can listen, take what resonates and let go of what doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:05 PM
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You gave an analogy, not an actual answer to the question. What was wrong in the specific comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:28 AM
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I’m in my 20s too. 40s a lot are older, sure, but “fucking old” is a stretch
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 03:25 AM
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so they are doing it cause it’s beneficial, yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:47 PM
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It does, i just you’re just not looking at the issue in a nuanced way and connecting the dots here. If marriage had no benefit for men they would not be the ones remarrying faster and more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:38 PM
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Just because it is beneficial does not mean it’s not forced. All rules were made in place for a reason. Mariage highly benefited men and allowed them to build the world we have today. Even today, if a man is in a successful marriage it is still highly beneficial. Divorce is what isn’t. But monogamy was created for the advancement of all of society which has been mainly ruled by men so far (historically), not just women. And i would argue that the reason there had to be a benefit for the woman, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:22 PM
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everyone is technically forced into monogamy, even women, it’s not a natural trait of the human specie. And the institution of marriage was created by men themselves btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:15 PM
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human beings aren’t naturally monogamous… money, or whatever social construct you say doesn’t matter. It’s not that it suddenly doesn’t work for them, it’s that they have more opportunities. But any person could potentially cheat at some point because we’re not meant to have marriage and lifelong commitments in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 07:48 PM
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Yes, i agree. I don’t think people should feel pressure or forced to do it either, marriage or relationships in general. It creates unhealthy dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 07:42 PM
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A good chunk, close to 30% and many do not do it because of poverty, and because of the US’ crappy parental support system. Those numbers are actually rising back up in the last few years. And a sacrifice is always a choice, not sure what you meant by that. I still want to know your answer about men, ofc not something extremely rare or hypothetical situations like the prior examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 06:27 PM
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🥱🥱🥱
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 06:19 PM
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But how is the titanic related to relationships? How many men you know today were in the titanic? Have you ever been in a shooting? I am speaking on relationships. Another sacrifice women also make is giving up their careers and independence to be caretakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 05:55 PM
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You sound 12
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 05:34 PM
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Giving birth is a sacrifice the woman makes in the relationship in order for them the create a family which is a shared goal is what i am saying, so the man is benefiting from this sacrifice. And you still haven’t proven your own theory about men… some random street interview isn’t proof of anything as i stated
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 05:26 PM
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Eve will pick whoever she wants because this is a fictional scenario made in your head & won’t actually prove anything. Like i said, you have deeper wounds it’s clear you cannot view this objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 05:22 PM
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mhmm… i see. It’s clear have a deeper wound so i’m not going to go back and forth but i’ll just say these are very emotional responses
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 05:02 PM
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these are street interviews about hypothetical scenarios which can also be heavily edited by the creator or the internet to push a specific narrative. Show me something men actually do in relationships - something comparable to my example of women giving birth - which actually happens often and can be backed by statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:53 PM
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That’s what i see in my parents, so a 40 year old bragging how amazing her relationship has been is not a surprise for me Well this isn’t even something our generation even has the opportunity to establish yet is my point. We haven’t existed for 40 years. Most of us are extremely young and just as lost and new to dating as the older generations were at our age. We just cannot compare those relationships until we get to their age and insulting them or dismissing them is ridiculous as we can actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:47 PM
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Well they are sacrificing their bodies to create a family with the man, aren’t they? Those children will carry his name and allow him to be a father, which is something many men want. It is a sacrifice. And what exactly do men sacrifice over women as a proof of true love?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:01 PM
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exactly… guys who are super conventionally attractive exhibit that behaviour, and that’s because they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:44 PM
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See, this is a logical & sensible train of thought. Refreshing to see here!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:43 PM
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ok so what about their comment was wrong exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:33 PM
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how? Break it down for me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:32 PM
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millions of women sacrifice their bodies and sometimes lives to populate this earth
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:31 PM
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what’s love to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:30 PM
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You think people who are abusers, who abondon people or betray them showcase themselves as that when first meeting or getting to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:28 PM
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Again, you’re 20… i’d suggest stirring away from this scene and trying to experience more of life. Travel, get involved in some cause, find your passions. You will meet people through those things that will be in tune with you. Don’t waste your youth on this mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:23 PM
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Mariage was created by men for the benefit of other men. Women were just the product exchange. However, overtime we sold them on this idea for a reason: many women feel as though mariage is the only secure way to really start a family with a man. If we look at single mothers for example and how they are criticized for having children without the commitment of a man and how it impacts society negatively it is just smarter for a woman to be with a man that can agree to that commitment - because we…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:51 PM
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Stop being so negative, this is exactly what OP is speaking of. Younger people haven’t had the time yet to be in these 20-30 year relationships. 40 isn’t “fucking old” either, you sound young and immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:31 PM
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because heterosexual relationships were created to be performative. When we used mariage as a way to trade, secure land/finances & used the women as the product of the exchange that’s when it went downhill…. Other forms of relationships do not have these types of obligations tied to them. Having a friend, or a family member isn’t part of a contract. Unfortunately, for couples it is usually something they eventually will have to do or think of doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:24 PM
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I don’t shame men sexually or romantically nor for being single so no you didn’t prove anything
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:58 PM
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We’re talking about friendship. Like i said, you’re just on here to victimize yourself it doesn’t really matter what i say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:08 PM
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Yeah ok… it’s a lot of victimization. You’re dedicated to that narrative no matter how nonsensical it may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 11:38 AM
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Yeah, and you respond to them by also complaining and being annoying… Like seriously who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 11:37 AM
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Not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 11:35 AM
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ok but thanks for proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:15 PM
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well that is not at all what i got from the comment lol… but thanks for clarifying
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:14 PM
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exactly 😂 i don’t understand how people genuinely get mad at others for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:11 PM
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You don’t seem to get it. I don’t think it’s wrong to be friends with the other gender. I don’t think it’s wrong to fall for your friend. It happens. What i don’t agree with is calling the other person a “user” because they don’t feel the same. They have every right to. Be friends with people you actually want to be FRIENDS with and understand that if one day one of you catches feelings it may end or change the relationship, there’s no bad guy shit just happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:13 PM
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You don’t seem to get it. I don’t think it’s wrong to be friends with the other gender. I don’t think it’s wrong to fall for your friend. It happens. What i don’t agree with is calling the other person a “user” because they don’t feel the same. They have every right to. Be friends with people you actually want to be FRIENDS with and understand that if one day one of you catches feelings it may end or change the relationship, there’s no bad guy shit just happens. And if you are a guy and know you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:12 PM
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they usually really love that person who will probably discard them like garbage and move to the next guy She will move on to someone who she is romantically interested in and she has every right to. She’s not discarding him, he felt different, she didn’t - what else is there to do other than move on? don’t give your attention to women without getting anything in return. Well if your only purpose of being “friends” wasn’t to just be that, but get sex or a relationship in return you were being ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:58 PM
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Men and women are different men can grow to love women over time while women friend zone. Women can too. That’s not the issue. The issue is not voicing those feelings then acting like the person “using” you and deceived you when they were just being a friend. It’s manipulative. The emotional support is just something that women naturally do in friendships, and that anyone should do. If you don’t like it or if the person doesn’t like you back. Take accountability for yourself and leave. A woman u…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:07 PM
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🥱
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:05 PM
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yawn like i said… slow
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:54 PM
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Ok and? i said that i think it’s perfectly fine to generalize an internet subculture. It is just not comparable to an entire gender. You’re slow…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:39 PM
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what do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:33 PM
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Then he can tell them that he is romantically interested and if she doesn’t feel the same move on? Or do like you and not have them as friends. No one is forcing him to consistently be in that position as he mentioned. No matter how you spin it, they are not using him - they are treating him as they treat other friends. If anything he’s being a fake friend & creating unnecessary resentment by continuing things and hiding his true intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:21 PM
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plenty of men want daughters, especially if they already have a son. I find that the ones that are overly concerned with having daughters feel that way bc of how they’ve treated women in their lives… they hate the idea of their own daughter being at the receiving end of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:18 PM
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Yeah, even Kevin Samuels (before his fame) admitted that if he wanted to become a hit, he’d just have to make this type of content and men would eat that shit up… and he did just that a few years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:02 PM
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You’re the one that started talking about men as whole and how they are generalized, i was never doing that or justified that, you derailed the conversation. You simply cannot compare an entire gender to an internet sub culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:43 PM
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It could be the case for some people, but he clearly mentioned that this is something that consistently happens to him. He is the common denominator in these friendships so it’s safe to say he is most likely the one who is not being upfront about his intentions/feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:54 PM
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The thing is, RP is a specific online sub-culture consisting of people who agree on the same topic and operate on the same rules. Women, are a group consisting of billions of individuals with completely different lives, cultures, views, habits, etc…. So yes, a specific internet sub-culture/movement can be generalized. I don’t generalize men as a whole because i recognize they are just as diverse as women are. It would be valid criticism if i was doing that, but i only mentioned RPers and made it…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:52 PM
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Edit: i went back to your initial comment, my bad i got confused with the other commenter. It does seem like we have the same point. Sorry about that!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:38 PM
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It does make sense, you’re just derailing here. My point is very clear and i’d just be repeating the same thing i wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:33 PM
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did you not read the second part of my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:32 PM
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Men openly say they’ve had sex with women they didn’t really find attractive just because they had a dry spell. Men are just willing to fuck all kinds of women if they feel as if they need to or if that’s all they can get. There’s a difference here. That is also why they are more likely to be in the type of relationship you mentioned, because they can get the sexual need met more often plus other benefits. How they really feel will always show up eventually, but that’s another story…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:09 PM
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he needs some milk
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:03 PM
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Just because they’re not your ideal type, doesn’t mean you don’t want them. I’d argue that men are a lot more likely to do this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:01 PM
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No one said that. Stay on topic instead of derailing. We’re on a pill forum and speaking on red pillers. This is what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:29 PM
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they’re not using you, they’re treating you like a friend. Women rely on each other for emotional support, so this is normal part of friendship for them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:20 PM
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Women that are 9 will not get the same treatment from men than women that are 6 or lower. Objectively attractive people have it better all across the board. That’s not exclusive to a gender. And it also has nothing to do with OP’s situation. If he is constantly in situations were women treat him as a friend, vent to him, etc… These women are not using him. Women’s friendship just consist of those things, it’s normal. If he does not want to be in that position than he needs to respect himself, ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:51 AM
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Exhibit A
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:46 AM
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That’s fair, your statement was just very general so i interpreted it a certain way
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:52 AM
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Humans aren’t naturally monogamous beings, male or female. Very little mammals actually are. Monogamy is simply a social construct which helped our society grow and evolve to what it is today. So men may need variety… but so do women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:46 AM
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It kind of is for many men. It could be as simple as liking the feeling of an attractive girl being into you - that is emotional validation. Kissing, flirting or even sex are actions which confirm/validate their interest and want for you in this case. It feels good (you FEEL more confident, happy, etc) and you want more of it. The more people, the better. The person is right, there’s always an emotional aspect to it. Men do not feel less emotion as well, i think people forget these things when v…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:26 AM
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This wouldn’t be a problem if men fucked women they actually liked… oh wait…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:21 AM
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This is not the same as building a whole friendship with someone and secretly wanting to fuck then acting like a victim because these women treated you as a exactly what you’ve presented yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:13 AM
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They’re not necessarily using him. If he presents himself as a friend who is there to listen and doesn’t make it clear he wants more, then this is on him. Women have these conversations with each other all the time so it is a normal part of friendship to them. This man is not a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:08 AM
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damn, what a great comment!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:06 AM
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everyone does everything, including men, we are billions of people - the problem relies in the gross generalizations that are used justify their misogyny. This is why no matter what angle, topic or subject… women will be viewed negatively and anyone who does not agree is simply asleep and hasn’t taken the infamous pill. They do not think as critically as they believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:47 AM
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It can mean a lot. But in this scenario i am referring to parents who have toxic relationships but insist on remaining with each other for whatever reason (kids, culture, etc…) This usually leaves those who grew up in such environment with a warped view of healthy relationships. (the other commenter has a great example)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:43 AM
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Thanks! I was just curious because i agree with your point, but i do think of those scenarios. Have a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:38 AM
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Not really, redpill men are a specific demographic of men who instead of healing, seeing both sides choose to become narcissistic and toxic. Not all men are like this luckily.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:36 AM
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Interesting point, i have a question. Would you remain in a loveless marriage? No abuse or infidelity but the two of you genuinely fell out of love. Tried many forms of healing (dates, couples therapy, etc). You have children, a house, etc… You just don’t feel romantically connected to them. How long would it take for you to move on? Or would you stay?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:40 PM
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not getting divorced doesn’t automatically mean stable loving home though…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:34 PM
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please heal…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:45 PM
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Yes, and weirdly, the same group of people (redpill) are known to make fun and shame women for remaining single and childless and almost use it as an insult. It’s another revenge fantasy thing. Either way, they will find something wrong with what the women are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:44 PM
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Because redpill loves using extremes and applying it to all women, because that’s the easiest way to justify their dislike for women. They will tell you in the comments that this only happens because women settle, that they don’t really love those men, etc… Truth is, they won’t ever be satisfied without somehow finding fault in what women do or don’t do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:43 AM
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women can only participate in hook up culture if men also participate, it’s a two way street. If you want to live in a culture where this doesn’t happen then raise everyone with those values.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:46 AM
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Honestly grooms do want that as well?! And the families too. One of the weddings i went to was actually a guy friend and he spent like an hour telling me about what they had planned and it was easily the best wedding i’ve ever been to. It’s a celebration like any other. Some people prefer small weddings, other big ones. The couples i know have been in healthy long term relationship for 3-6 years before the wedding so they already knew what they were in for as far as commitment. You’re assuming w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:22 AM
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I am in my mid 20s, the friends who got married are a little older (27-30)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:14 PM
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well maybe stay outside a little more so you can get a grip of reality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:13 PM
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I’ve been to like 3 weddings over the summer and most of my friends want it at some point. So for me, i know many; i am not just pulling this out of my ass. Women are taught this and depending on your upbringing they uphold these beliefs. Being taught of the reality of marriage is one thing, but it doesn’t mean someone doesn’t want it if they haven’t been taught about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:11 PM
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I think many of the people who create this sub are narcissistic themselves (ofc the complete opposite of what they want to be) which is why they have those beliefs as well. it’s unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:08 PM
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I hear many… as a matter of fact i’ve been to 3 weddings this summer. People who have the same views often hang out together, so perhaps this difference in experience is because of your entourage. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist or is that rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:07 PM
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made up scenarios… those are your favourites
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:04 PM
2

Yes real life is different, that’s exactly what i am saying. I feel sorry for you, go touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:03 PM
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And? Apps aren’t everything. Statistically speaking about 70% of adult men are in relationships, that is the reality. You experience may differ, but most men do find relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:32 PM
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you clearly don’t understand my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:25 PM
3

i’m sorry that’s your experience but it’s not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:23 PM
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Yup, i’m a virgin and don’t tell men unless i am getting serious with them. And most just assume i’m the complete opposite. I’m a typical girl in her 20s, i travel, have other hobbies, have a good social life, i dress like most women my age, attractive. I’ve just learned that men will assume what they want based on their perception of you. Especially any man in the manosphere…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:12 PM
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I am a virgin in my 20s, i completely agree. They want to believe that all they have to provide are materialistic things. They want women with “value” but don’t have values themselves. Makes no sense and these men aren’t as desirable as they believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:04 PM
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This statistic has been debunked, touch some grass. There are way more men in committed relationships. They just aren’t insecure and paranoid assuming these wild things so women actually want to be with them, you should try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:58 PM
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This isn’t true. Us women are taught about prince charming and living happily ever after since we were toddlers. Most of us seek that to some level. I have a feeling you just made this statistic up or you just don’t know women in real life (who are in relationships esp). I know so many girls literally waiting for their partners to propose & start a family with them. Plus, wanting marriage and wanting a long term commitment with one person are two different things. I am sure many women also fall …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:50 PM
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Some women feel used by it, thinking men will value them (even platonically) if they have a sexual relationship.. then they realize many of them don’t and it’s not what they want Some women are completely aware and OK with the dynamics and are satisfied by it Some women don’t participate at all Women aren’t a monolith
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:33 PM
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are you done?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:49 AM
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you’re so boring
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:27 AM
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yawn
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:21 AM
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use your imagination
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:07 AM
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Exactly, which is a lot less than the 80% stat men on here love to put out! Much more men are in committed relationships with women and it increases with age. At worst, we have the same amount of man single vs committed, at best, we have much more than half. So women aren’t making themselves unavailable to “most men” as that commenter tried to claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:26 AM
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most people in america are statistically overweight - and to be specific i am speaking of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:33 AM
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Well your point was that if women were available to men then men would start valuing them differently. I said that men have always valued women based on the same things because history shows that they did even when women were the most accessible to them. Even today, most women are still accessible to men (pewresearch shows good stats of relationships) so this line of thinking is inaccurate. I don’t see why you’re saying that some derogatory term exists for men. No one said it doesn’t. I was simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:47 AM
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I am not sure i understand your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:15 AM
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never did
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:12 AM
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People who go to the gym in general just look better. That’s what regular exercise does. Regardless of age and gender it’s attractive. An older woman who is fit can probably tons of younger guys to drool over her. My friend’s mom was like that and she literally had a better love/sex life than us younger girls. This doesn’t apply to most of the population though…. esp not in america.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:56 AM
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I don’t think they necessarily become more attractive - if they are unattractive to begin with they will just have the opportunity to be with a woman who will look past the physical because he can offer money. She will have sex with him because she is getting some form of financial benefit by being with him. There’s a difference. Also, the first part of your comment does not make sense. Even when women were marrying at a young age, they were very much still judged on their looks. It was normal f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:52 AM
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Men get fat, bald and start treating their wives as maids.. i don’t see why women should marry
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:41 AM
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sure
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:16 AM
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post history explains it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 11:56 PM
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You say you don’t have an ego, yet your title says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 11:53 PM
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I’m guessing they are getting singled out because we are on a pill related forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 11:40 PM
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i hope it is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 11:28 PM
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I did participate. I told you my perspective as a virgin, you just don’t like what i am saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 11:23 PM
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I don’t think they are using it as an insult. But clearly you don’t like women. I’d want a guy i can be best friends with, and for you to think that this means talking about crystals and astrology just shows your bias against women. Work on that misogyny and that ego issue before looking for a virgin. It’s not the real problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 11:17 PM
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I don’t judge you, i am just saying that as a virgin woman, you are not as desirable as you think. And @shadowcat1606 may also have a point… Maybe you should be with a tall intelligent muscular man if that’s who you prefer to be around with. That’s also fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 11:08 PM
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And men also wear the amount of women they’ve slept with as a badge of honour. While simultaneously, shaming women with certain body counts (aka those who sleep with them). So until then, i (also a virgin) will feel happy about not giving myself to a man that sees nothing more to me than sex. This is especially valid for men in the manosphere, i had an ex like that (redpiller) & although i felt naive for trusting him i am glad i never gave him “what he wanted” , which is my body. They are extrem…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 11:01 PM
2

Same for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 10:52 PM
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Now, as a virgin… I am just wondering why i would give myself to a man that only views me (a woman) as only good for sex, less desirable than him and not able to provide anything substantial to him and just there to make his ego feel good? You think i’ve rejected hundreds of men before you for that? You’re not that desirable to someone like me. I can drive, pay for my own shit and tbh i’m not looking for a comedian but a partner. Finding a man willing to provide materialistic things in order for…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 10:29 PM
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I do spend quite some time alone, i’m pretty introverted! I keep up with friends but i for sure need my alone time or else i feel completely drained. I like doing relaxing things at home like baking, editing portraits since i do photography or i’ll go to the gym. But for most of the other things i definitely prefer doing those with friends & exploring things with them.
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:58 PM
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Honestly, over the pandemic i’ve spent a lot more time inside and reddit became a good distraction - wasn’t on here before. I think it’s a good place to exchange, ask questions & things of that matter but i also discovered there’s so much negativity on here as well. Especially in subs relating to dating in general, i personally don’t have that much experience which is why i came here in the first place but i think it hindered me more than anything after continuously seeing negative comments.
/r/seduction22/07/22 02:36 PM
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I think i’m pretty conventionally attractive, i just have anxiety and shyness which gets in the way of a lot of things
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:01 AM
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Yeah, you’re exactly what i’m speaking of.
/r/seduction22/07/22 03:46 AM
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Yes, women really value socializing. I could do tons of different activities and not simply concentrate on one just because i want to be with friends and explore things with them. We’ll try new workouts, take dance classes, paint nights, etc… Maybe that’s why men on here have the impression we don’t do much but really we value exploring and socializing things together rather than having a specific thing to center our friendship around - like gaming, or a sport, as men do.
/r/seduction22/07/22 02:11 AM
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Yeah, it’s kind of sad to see these comments. I’m a woman in my 20s - super passionate about portrait photography, i go bouldering with friends, love hikes & kayaking in the summer and go to the gym regularly. Most of the women i surround myself with have their own passions, like music, writing, volunteering, etc… Tons of women my age have lives outside of “partying and bars”. I do think spending so much time on here does reinforce a lot of negative thinking, i personally plan on spending a lot …
/r/seduction22/07/22 02:05 AM
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It’s like a white person telling a black person that they don’t experience racism as much as they say they do because, as a white person, their lived experience gives them an authority on what other white people’s intentions are. Like no, that white person just isn’t the target for racism which is why they may not see or encounter racism as much. It doesn’t mean it’s rare or doesn’t happen. A white person probably won’t come to you and brag about their discriminating behaviour either. — Now this…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:44 AM
1

It’s like a white person telling a black person that they don’t experience racism as much as they say they do because, as a white person, their lived experience gives them an authority on what other white people’s intentions are. Like no, that white person just isn’t the target for racism which is why they may not see or encounter racism as much. It doesn’t mean it’s rare or doesn’t happen. A white person probably won’t come to you and brag about their discriminating behaviour either. — Now this…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:32 AM
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You are not at the receiving end of it is the point. You are one man and your dating sexual & habits will differ from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:55 AM
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I am in my mid 20s. Most of the people i hang out with are in healthy long term relationships, but some of those who date and are looking for partners have experienced this at some point. At the end of the day, your anecdotal evidence doesn’t really erase what i said. If you go on dating subs you’ll see that it does indeed happen to a lot of adults as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:21 AM
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In this case it’s not about manhood, it’s about women’s lived experiences as it relates to dating men. You haven’t experienced men as dating potential so your position is also limited in some way. I could argue that certain things men speak of about what it’s like to date women are lies, or over exaggerated, but at the end of the day i have an awareness that it is limited because i am not actually the one dating and experiencing women as romantic partners. Same concept for both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:09 AM
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Do you date men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:40 AM
0

typical
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:11 AM
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Those two things are not mutually exclusive and both situations can happen on their own. I’m not sure why my comment bugged you enough for you to try and be condescending, but it’s laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:10 AM
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“normie” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:07 AM
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🥱
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:42 AM
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That’s quite literally false, what you’re implying about women. A woman won’t inherently get subconscious emotional baggage from sex. You people love making things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:27 AM
1

yeah…miss me with that bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:12 AM
11

lmao anyway….
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:34 PM
2

good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:34 PM
15

Not, it’s definitely about ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:07 PM
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i hope you find peace within yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 10:59 PM
3

It was created by a group of elite white men to keep other elite white men in power. The closer you are to that ideal, the more “rights” and better treatment you have. This concords with history. Everyone who’s not an elite white male, would be loosing in some way, some just more than others. Of course now things are a lot more different and nearly everyone has constitutional rights. However, many of our current perception, societal norms, attitudes, etc… Do come from living in Patriarchy for so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:43 PM
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So has patriarchy ever existed in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:38 PM
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