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You are an old school feminist. Modern ones want the control. That is what my original point was about.
/r/MensRights29/04/26 03:59 PM
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Modern feminism is definitely not about equality and is a supremacy movement. Don't be fooled into thinking words and definitions don't change because they do.
/r/MensRights29/04/26 03:43 PM
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Because you 2 are talking about 2 different versions of feminism. 1, old school we want equal rights. 2, modern women's supremacy movement designed to put women ahead of men.
/r/MensRights29/04/26 03:27 PM
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You really don't understand the zeitgeist in the west. I've watched them stand in my parliament and demand a curfew on men. I've watched them break their own rules about hiring practices (put in place to help get 50/50 gender balance) pay the fines, change the rules and then laugh about it. There is plenty of examples out there you are refusing to see. And this isn't a few bad apples this is now how most women think and act, the "get your bag" types. You only have to go through this sub and see …
/r/MensRights29/04/26 03:22 PM
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Yes I’m sure you know what “the feminists really think” with all the exposure you actually have with them. I have plenty of exposure to them, I've been paying attention to them for a decade now.
/r/MensRights27/04/26 04:41 PM
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I'm not talking about 1980's feminists but today's feminists, it is not an equality movement but a dominance movement.
/r/MensRights26/04/26 06:26 PM
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i really suggest you go pay attention to how modern feminists are portraying things and what they are pushing for. You seem to think that modern feminism is just the basic "women deserve equal rights" and that is just not true.
/r/MensRights26/04/26 06:24 PM
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How feminism is defined V how it is used in the modern world by real people is different. Gender roles exist because of the fundamental differences between men and women. You can't erase them because at our core they are based around our own desires and skills. No one has helped men out from their gender roles (most women today still expect men to be men) men are still looked at with suspicion when they are in caring roles (especially if its kids)
/r/MensRights20/04/26 03:25 PM
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Who aren't? Plenty of women out there demonizing other women over their choices.
/r/MensRights20/04/26 03:21 PM
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When will you learn that a definition in a dictionary and how it is used in the real world are different and how it is used is far more important than how it was defined.
/r/MensRights20/04/26 03:20 PM
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I don't disagree. But women are the only ones who can give birth and as such should be encouraged not demonised for wanting to be a mother.
/r/MensRights19/04/26 08:45 PM
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Then you're not paying attention. Plenty of feminists (and remember feminist is a loose term encompassing all type of feminism) talk about not being trapped by a man and men just want us pregnant and barefoot. They talk about how only an education and a career can set you free from the oppressive patriarchy and make your life worth living.
/r/MensRights19/04/26 08:43 PM
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1 extreme doesn't negate the other extreme.
/r/MensRights19/04/26 07:01 PM
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Except here in Europe we have the same problems and Dr's have the freedom to take action, have plenty of safety nets including free lunches. Feminists brainwashing women into thinking they are only worth anything if they have a career has caused the problems.
/r/MensRights19/04/26 01:34 PM
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She gets 9% advantage and still loses. Enough said.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 07:09 PM
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women tended to give cats more attention, were usually better at assessing cat emotions, and were more likely to mimic cat vocalizations too. I bet it's because men are more likely when getting home to do certain things before seeing to the cat while women delt with the cat first.
/r/MensRights14/12/25 04:38 PM
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"It is therefore possible that male caregivers require more explicit vocalizations to notice and respond to the needs of their cats, which in turn reinforces cats' tendency to use more directed and frequent vocal behavior to attract their attention," write the researchers. So cats have figured out what women are yet too. Men need proper direct communication to respond, and we aren't, you know, mind readers.
/r/MensRights14/12/25 03:48 PM
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u/ok_entertainer4482 Do you want a conversation or keeping deleting your posts? as a reply to your last one. And why would I keep my comments up when I know that other men in this sub would see those comments in future and start threatening me again?? Because you have to communicate with people no matter if some of them send you threats because nothing will change if you don't. Yeah, because your experiences are a self fulfilling prophecy. Decent people wouldn't interact with you as they're repu…
/r/MensRights30/11/25 04:30 PM
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And here in you show the problem. you got some men sending you threats, but did I? no, you have thrown your dummy out and just labeled all men here as monsters. You didn't argue against anything I said did you? I've had threats in DM's from feminists but do I throw my dummy out and refuse to engage with feminists ever again? no, I gave you my point of view based on my learning and observations of over a decade and you just call me stupid. I bet you are young (I've had this type of interaction so…
/r/MensRights30/11/25 03:59 PM
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u/Ok_Entertainer4482 Ah yes because intelligent people delete all their replies and run away instead of making an argument! one day you will grow up and realise how the world works.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 03:11 PM
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Says the one with no argument. I've studied all this for over a decade and watched the shift in societal opinions. If it continues as is, women will lose more and more of their rights until they learn to fulfil their side of the social contract.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 02:33 PM
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Don't be stupid. It's right there in the name. It is a movement focused solely on the betterment of the female side of the species even to the detriment of the male side. They don't fight for anything that benefits men (as that would be bad for women). This post about femicide is a good example, despite women killing men at only slightly lower rates the whole focus of society is to focus on how women are victims. There is no such thing as "toxic masculinity" as what gets described as that is not…
/r/MensRights30/11/25 02:19 PM
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Because feminism is anti mens rights.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 01:44 PM
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It's about time someone sued the government for sexual discrimination. Edit- Also to add It later emerged her concerns about the app had been "unfounded". So another women with mental issues who shouldn't be on the streets.
/r/MensRights06/10/25 11:43 AM
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Yes it was made by a man.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 06:08 PM
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r/leapoardsatemyface
/r/MensRights25/07/25 05:40 PM
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London is only 13% of the population. Only 1% of the US female population have downloaded the app and they have easy access to it. The current play store (50% of users in the uk are android) rating for it is trash with many women complaining about it. Unless they release this in the UK it is not anything to be concerned about as people are to lazy to jump through hoops to install it and those that do will find nothing of value in it at the moment.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 09:42 AM
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And how many women are going to do that? And of those that do how many will stay using the app? Because it relies on other users to post things about men in their area. There will be nothing there to keep these women on the app. Think mate.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 07:20 AM
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And women in the UK can access it also, just so UK Men are aware. No they can't. It is US only for now.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 07:11 AM
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It doesn't have to be a sausage fest. A club will have a capacity and they can have events ticket only meaning a 50/50 split and charge the same for everyone.
/r/MensRights05/07/25 08:46 PM
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I'm a single dad, and yes it doesn't take this long but it takes more time now than when I was in a relationship doing 50/50. This means the average is pushed up by more single men doing all chores.
/r/MensRights05/07/25 07:00 AM
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More single men today.
/r/MensRights04/07/25 07:12 AM
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And yet you posted a comment 4hr ago about feminism being egalitarian. Ill tell you now it is not, it is a female advocacy movement that has morphed into a female supremacy movement. You are young and naive (I get it I was your age once and one of the things you learn as you get older is that when you were younger you didn't know shit even though you thought you did.)
/r/MensRights18/05/25 12:28 PM
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Married men learn to shut their brain off from all the nagging 🤣
/r/MensRights04/04/25 11:06 AM
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For whom? Who does this benefit? It's part of freedom to be attracted to what you are attracted. It does not need to be brought back in line, most women aren't complaining about their attractions, men are. Society. The basis of a stable society is pairing people up as much as possible, our ancestors have known this for a long time. I am sure most would rather be alone than to be with someone they are not attracted too but if they changed their attraction triggers they would find more men attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:33 PM
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I'm not redefining the word. It is to exchange things with others (produce for money, Ideas, Values etc) I am giving things to another in the expectation they are going to give the things I want to me. Just because it's main use is the "exchange of goods or services for money" doesn't mean it doesn't have other uses. This is the only reason people don't like the idea of using the word in this context because they immediately think "prostitution"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:30 PM
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Transaction is just a swapping of one thing for another with someone. I expect my partner to do A,B,C in the relationship and they expect me to do X,Y,Z. If either of us don't do the things the other wants then the relationship doesn't work. This is a transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:18 PM
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I found where u/TermAggravating8043 got her education :) https://np.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1j41r1a/this_page_in_my_students_textbook/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:11 PM
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Attraction is not static. It can and does change. Women's attraction has shifted with the advent of social media and dating apps and it needs to be brought back in line.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:04 PM
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Uh no, the journey counts. It counts for a lot. And those women couldn't get the man they wanted when they were young AND they were being pumped and dumped then too so nothing has changed for them. So they end up in the same miserable place. You act like the life of an unattractive 20 year old is different than the life of an unattractive 30 year old and you couldn't be more wrong. Who said anything about attractiveness? This is about attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:42 PM
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Both lead to the same place. My demographic is 30+ women, they are by and large fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:55 PM
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And those dates either are with men you don't want or men just looking to fuck (this is why women moan about these 2 things) Unless you can get the commitment from a man you want it doesn't mean shit how many dates you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:06 PM
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People who are not interested in careers usually date other people who are not interested in careers, Not true. Go talk to the women 30+ who are working in dead end jobs and 9/10 times her partner has a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:03 PM
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Of course they are cherry picked, the whole idea was to show men the shitty entitlement of some women. This doesn't mean they aren't real, hell go make a profile and go look at the women available in your area, you will still find plenty of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:33 AM
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But I have seen them say, "You need to lower your standards". To which I disagree. I actually think we should RAISE our standards and stop settling for the bare minimum This just shows you still don't understand what is being spoken about (like lots of women on here) (This applies to average and below women, as these are the ones complaining) When men are talking about lowering your standards its about looks (why do you need a man who is 6'? why not a man who is 5'10"?) Women should raise their …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:23 AM
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I've seen more men complaining about women complaining that there's no good men, than women actually complaining that there's no good men That is just indicative of the spaces you visit. 5-10 years ago it was the bread and butter of manosphere videos to show dating profiles and such of the ridiculous requirements of women. Men now know so they aren't really done that much now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:12 AM
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Respect women’s wishes, and stop bothering them with their lives. Why? So what do men do? What they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:58 PM
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It's all to do with your value in terms of a long term mate, your married so have no value to them as you're not available. Imagine your a man and you have all your shit together, good job, own a home etc etc. You want a wife and a family, 2 or more kids etc. There is time in-between "meet woman" and "having kids". A 30+ yo woman will have shorter time available to her to get from A to B. Younger women have more time. That is why they are more valuable in this market (add in the fact men find yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:06 PM
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Google found it was paying men less.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 02:05 PM
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Of course it does, her facebook is looked at and liked by her friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:03 PM
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So you agree. It's mean spirited vindictiveness by bitter and angry men who think women rate themselves too highly. Who are you to determine what someone thinks of themselves? Your OPINION is worthless in determining what a woman thinks of herself. The entitlement is insane. I think you need to learn there is a difference between your sexual worth and your worth as a person, if you think your sexual value is your hu8man value then you have problems you need to fix. It's not in women's best inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:51 PM
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You need to learn what the "royal you" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:06 PM
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I have hobbies thanks. Maybe you should come up with some better comments and argue against the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:30 PM
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This is ironic. Isn't it red pill men that derive smv (hate that disgusting term) a marker of evolutionary psychology? That if your not attracting women it's biology telling you you're not fit to mate? Which is extrinsically talking about your value as a person? SMV is how hot you are hence the "sexual" part of it. It doesn't denote anything more, you could be the hottest person on the planet and have a hitler attitude, your smv might be 10 but you would be a garbage person. Having realistic sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:29 PM
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No that's not how it works. They'll still neg you as a way to demean you and yourself worth. It's never enough. And why would a woman call herself mid? Or ugly? Not what I have seen on the whatever show, they just move on and pick on the women who say 10. Why shouldn't people rate themselves properly? just because I think I am a 6 doesn't mean I don't have a healthy self esteem, because the rating is about SMV not your value as a person. What is that supposed to for her? And her life? It's self …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:39 AM
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So then the best move would be to rate yourself accurately as they would then just move on as they have no rage bait of a woman claiming to be a 10
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:28 AM
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Valid. You would be fucked without a society as well though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:04 PM
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And as if by magic what I was talking about is trying to become reality. https://np.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1ixbj2w/but_what_rights_are_they_taking_away/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:09 PM
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I’m fine with sending them to die. That’s how we used to handle low status men. It wasn't just low status men, men of all levels used to die in wars. Oh wait, you think only WOMEN will be losing their rights? lmao. You think the men if threatened with losing their rights wont rebel? like that is the reason for most civil wars. Stripping women's rights is a lot easier to do and means these men then will get a woman and continue voting for the oppressor. Yeah and a whole fuck ton of people are lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:13 PM
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Trouble is they are not just going to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:08 PM
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.. What I'm arguing about was your implication that it was "USA meddling" that makes the middle east unstable And it does, we have been fighting the Islamic states for centuries and any that don't work with us keep getting prodded (you know In 1980, Saddam Hussein was given the key to Detroit by Mayor Coleman Young as a token of appreciation for a $250,000 donation to the Sacred Heart Chaldean Church, then when he no longer worked with us we waged war and had him killed) As part of your larger i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:07 PM
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And women have full rights in the west and we are as much or more stable. No we aren't. Stable means control, it means shit doesn't change and there isn't different groups infighting, the west isn't very stable. but I’m fine with you giving up YOUR rights for social stability. You can live as a non-voting serf working in one of Elon’s sweat shops Demonstrating we are not stable. he’ll let you marry someone he picks out - maybe. She may be fat and ugly. And you can’t divorce her. And oh you can’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:58 PM
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As someone who used to speak Arabic and also studied the Middle Eastern history from 610 to 1453, I’d like to think I have more knowledge on average but far far less than an expert, the Middle East has been subject to waves of invasion forever and not just from the west. Of course they have (like lots of places) but they are the place (because of religion) that has held significant meaning, things like the crusades of Europeans are an example. In more modern times this has continued with geo pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:53 PM
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Most people marry - that includes men - so most people pair up. I really don’t see it as a pressing social need to make sure toxic people at the tail end of the bell curves do marry. Not anymore. Marriage rates have been falling for a long time, people cohabitate now without marriage. We are coming to the end of certain older demographics and as they die off the stats change, not to mention 40% of them marriages end. My sister is thin athletic chick that has been at a 7 all her life. Seriously. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:46 PM
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Doesn't work on it's own you have to make women reliant on men at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:41 PM
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I have more faith in men than that. Then you are going to be disappointed. I absolutely believe we can recalibrate the message to be the best you can be FOR YOU and not for the idea of a woman Only through some bio engineering of men (reduce T levels, but women wouldn't like that either as they like masculine men) I know its nature, but that doesn't suddenly mean every woman wants every man and vice versa, I'm not saying everyone wants everyone, but 99% of people want someone and women want a sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:33 PM
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Nah, you can't just blame all of that on "the west." And UAE isn't as bad as the rest, but you absolutely can't say that it's actually equal. Marital rape is legal and honor punishments aren't illegal, nor is gender-based employment discrimination. Women require permission to marry and divorce, and men don't. And a lot of laws aren't enforced anyway, they're there to make UAE look good What do you think we are arguing about here? Women do not have much rights in the UAE and it is a stable place.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:28 PM
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Women want relationships on their terms. This isn't the past when we NEEDED a man for survival and I don't even get why that's a time looked back on so fondly when most women back then probably also wouldn't want to be in those relationships if it didn't hold her literal survival captive. Not arguing against that just pointing out there is a relation between how society functions and how relationships function. I find it wild that men have been conditioned into the carrot and stick model but wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:09 PM
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Lol yes, which is why the most stable societies are in the middle east, as we can all clearly see 🤣 Ah yes, a place where the west have forever been pocking with a stick. The UAE is very stable but also supported the US over the years, funny how that works. Men didn't oppress women to "stabilize society" and never have, they did it because they wanted to and could Men followed religion which was invented as a control measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:58 PM
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Because when women do, men don’t believe us. Because the women who do are always saying "I don't care about height" and such things despite it being very obvious by the data that women very much do care about height. I have never seen a woman say " I want a man who is 6'+, fit, dresses well, treats me right and has some money" get shouted at as a liar. There isn’t one cookie-cutter kind of man we find attractive "Tall, Dark and handsome" is a cookie cutter description that leaves room for interp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:34 PM
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Vast majority of men and women want a relationship. If one side only finds a small % attractive then this will leave a lot out of that experience and we end up with the incels we see today. Our ancestors figured out that the best way to stabilise society is to pair up as many as possible, killing of enough men via war to make them a commodity by also making women dependant on men for survival. Having a lot of excess men in a society with no chance is not good for said society and you end up with…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:25 PM
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Are you using a different definition of "date" To me you have to "date" to get to know someone to see if you want a relationship. So I would date a lot of the women I see because they are attractive enough. Women don't find most men attractive enough to consider even going on a date with them, that is where the general problem comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:29 PM
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Finally, a man admits that men have access to both beauty standards and mirrors. What do you mean by that? Men know if they are attractive or not, for Christ’s sake. Yes, men learn by how much attention they get from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:22 AM
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Where did I say it doesn't happen? I've been there and done that (and used to be like them) then I learned that it's just a waste of time and to pull yourself together and get the work done.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:21 AM
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Yes throwing fits would be one way. "crying" in this context is that over emotional response where you break down (sometimes to the point of shedding tears), many people have this reaction (men punching walls or women shedding tears for instance) Acting appropriately would be responding to adversity in the correct manner, you can feel frustration but you shouldn't break down because of it, you should be using that energy to solve the problem in front of you, because at the end of the day breakin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:14 PM
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Just because it is normal doesn't make it good. It’s okay to have big feelings as long as it doesn’t affect the way you treat people. No, as long as it doesn't stop you from acting appropriately.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:49 PM
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Crying over say the loss of a loved one is healthy, crying over being frustrated isn't. But I wasn't using the word to mean shed tears but the "crying" as in the over emotional moaning people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:32 PM
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Good job I don't get upset like that. Master your emotions and use them to solve your problems and don't cry about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:19 PM
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But some of those women on that list are even regarded as beautiful among gay men and straight women. And doesn't factor in sexual attraction. Because they see the symmetrical features but that isn't the whole thing for what is considered beautiful like I said. But those are some of the top women in world. When it comes to rating the rest of the population you need to have sexual attraction to them to be able to put them in a ranking. Men are better at it because we have a wider gamete of what w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:10 PM
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Nah. I don't think so. Bc men aren't a good judge of beauty. They see giant breasts or ass and it automatically makes a woman beautiful. LMAO. Men are better at it than women that is why men's ratings make a nice even bell curve and women don't. I think women and or gay men are a genuine good benchmark for women's beauty bc it's not necessarily based in sex or sexual attraction. Nope, if you are not sexually attracted to the target you can't rate based on sexual markers which are a massive part …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:53 PM
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Oh I have no intention of having an LTR again I'll stay having FWB's and STR's thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:44 PM
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Eh. Bc even beautiful women I have seen been call mid or okay despite being literal supermodels. Ah yes, men wanting to take women down a peg or too by trying to shit on the one thing they have a lot of investment in, just like women calling men incels or virgins. And what men find attractive isn't necessarily what women find attractive. Even for beauty standards for men or for women. Men determine what they find attractive in women (and visa versa) and so set beauty standards for the other sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:43 PM
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I had a conversation with a 22yo woman the other week about dating etc. I asked why she had lip filler, and her instance response was men like it. I asked if she had ever heard a man saying he likes it. Guess what her reply was?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:56 PM
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The basics of attraction are not subjective (face symmetry) If beauty was subjective there wouldn't be beauty standards. While you will get outliers most women like very similar thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:54 PM
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Not the kind of problems the OP is talking about (and if this "problem" is only there because the situation is making you feel bad then it ain't a problem but a lack of emotional regulation.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:36 PM
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I can feel frustration over problem, acknowledge it and then move on to solving said problem. What I don't need is third party acknowledgment over it or an hours conversation over why I feel like I do. Still doesn't change that the problem needs solving and no amount of talking about feelz is going to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:05 PM
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Facts don't care about your feelz. Problems don't care about your feelz. Problems need to be solved otherwise we would still be living in caves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:52 PM
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The argument is that this data doesn't negate the data in the other graph.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:16 PM
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you claim that the bar is in hell for attractive men so women are more biased towards them OP's claim not mine, I was injecting the 1 piece of important info he was missing. if a fat ugly woman came up to you and started saying things like “oh you’re so sexy” you would deffo feel creeped out No I don't, I feel a bit of respect for the effort as most women are too cowedly to shoot their shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:06 PM
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Sure, I'm not the one who doesn't know the rule (that would be OP) so then there are men out there who doesn't understand it, this maybe because women will not actually directly say what physical attributes they find attractive and is always some fluff like they don't even understand what they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:46 PM
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Why does it need to be stated? Ask the OP. RP guys know the golden rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:43 PM
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Then that makes sense and doesn't take away from the other persons graph. Women notoriously don't message first. So the ones who do will be the bottom end of the attractiveness scale as men are not messaging them. Most men on dating apps are after a quick hook up so they are going to try with the most attractive they think they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:37 PM
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Where did I claim that attractive men are treated better?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:33 PM
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Is that data set by who messages first?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:31 PM
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Of course I want a woman I'm attracted too. Point is that men say they want an attractive woman while women always leave this part out when they talk about what they want. The other point is that the % of women men find attractive is wider than what women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:20 PM
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"Bar for Attractive men is in hell, most women just want a guy who treats them like a human being" You forgot the golden rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:09 PM
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There is no "attractive" men at those events.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:37 AM
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Being a nice guy has nothing to do with looks. They are timid, polite and not sexually aggressive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:02 PM
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For real things. Just because men take this piss it is based on real things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:56 PM
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You do know you said that "No one is leading or following in western relationships" At no point did I say the whole world is doing it. There are plenty of relationships with the follower/leader dynamic. It might be said in a jokey way but the intent behind it is quite clear "man your whipped"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:26 PM
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Yes I say so. And I say so because I can point to loads of the relationships I have had and them of my friends and family have where one is clearly the leader. That is why when women are the leader the man will be called "hen pecked" or made fun of by people saying "she wears the trousers in your house"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 07:55 PM
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That's simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 07:39 PM
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I like you don't seem to understand what % are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:57 PM
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All you are saying here is that it's not ok for a man to expect you to do anything but fine for you to expect the man to do everything. Plain old hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:39 PM
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No I didn't. There is a difference between "men with option are more likely to cheat" and "Men with options will cheat"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:22 PM
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No I am not. Women are looking to date single men. Men with options are attractive so women want to date these men. Some of these men will not be single and are cheating and some of them will be single and want to remain so, so they will use women to get their rocks off. These men when they want to settle down will do so with an attractive woman. Most of these women complaining are not in the attractive category and thus are being used. Statistically men with options will be cheating more as you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:29 PM
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If that is your proof then you are just wrong plain and simple. That means you do need to post proof so we can decide if to just ignore you or not when you post one of your rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:16 PM
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It's completely reasonable to assume that the type of person with options is less inclined towards loyalty than the ones with fewer.” And that quote (as it stands) is correct. Men with options exorcise those options. This quote has nothing to do with your claim that men with no options are better partners. Ill quote my reply in that thread. "The pick better refers to picking personality over looks. The chad v average man is about average women trying to get chad instead of mr average hence chad …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:11 PM
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But if you want to argue against whatever it is you need to provide examples or you get what you got of people asking where you saw it. Too many people in here post shit with nothing to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:07 PM
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There is it. You wanna be Chad. Why the fuck would that make you a chad? getting a date with a top 50% of women within a week or so is not chad behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:05 PM
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this post is in reply to certain users claiming that women could have dated men with no options and be worshipped by them. There will be men like this, maybe even the men saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:03 PM
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Post the examples in your OP when making these kinds of posts it would do us all a favour.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:54 PM
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Honestly, almost none of these posts are ever inviting good faith discussion. It's a psy op. Make enough noise about the strawman and it becomes a "known" issue they can keep bringing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:06 PM
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Lol, no it isn't, you just can't argue against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:17 PM
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Why are you ignoring the top comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:56 PM
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wow! 161 students, what a sample. The old okcupid study at least had thousands and showed pretty well women have a worse sense of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:07 AM
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His biology forced him to seek a mate. Men present themselves and women choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 11:12 PM
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He still isn't choosing he is hoping to be chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:51 PM
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The man knocked on as many gates as he could looking for that one chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:27 PM
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Not once have you mentioned a mans personality or character. Very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:26 PM
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Lol, I'm not talking about me, Really? I'm an attractive woman, and these guys are always trying to get my attention, so I know that I'm attractive. There is no need to try to humble me here. I can tell who is in my league and who is not. Maybe you are/do but the odds are against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:39 PM
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Some of these men will be in your league. Men have a better sense of relative attractiveness than women do. Just because you don't find them attractive doesn't mean they are not in your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:37 PM
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Yeah, but there is no correlation between looks and personality. No one said there was. The problem is AVERAGE women trying to get and thinking they deserve hot guys. The hot men will use the AVERAGE women for sex, this is why they moan about them all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:57 PM
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A few delusional men doesn't mean they all are. Most men know their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:55 PM
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But average guys do the same thing, they will go for the hottest women as well instead of dating women who are on their level aka average women. And they get a brutal reality check when the get no action. And someone's personality says nothing about their looks. Never said I did. This conversation is about average looking women who cry about getting used and treated like shit by the attractive men. If you are average looking don't go looking for the hot people as they are not going to settle wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:39 PM
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This isn't proof, this is your opinion, thoughts, and feelings It's nice you think so highly about yourself though No, anyone with eyes looking at the dating market, looking at studies and trends can see this. That, again, was never a part of anything I said Again it doesn't matter it is all linked as its all psychology. No, it's not dude Yes it is. I see you didn't even understand what I wrote with the rest of your drivel. I was talking about competing to get older people but YOUNGER. I add stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:36 PM
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I see where you're going with that. I believe if I was to force my finger in to a woman it would fall under the definition of rape so I agree it should count as rape if a woman envelopes a man.
/r/MensRights09/02/25 11:14 PM
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Yes run away because you have nothing of value to say just another angry troll on here like so many others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:07 PM
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What proof did you give me that what we find attractive is based on what we think about ourselves? We all want the best yet we manage to sort ourselves by looks and when we settle for something we are thinking we have gotten someone who is below what we think we deserve, this is evidence we use ourselves as a benchmark. Your age changing and the age you're attracted to changing with it is natural on both ends. It is a demonstration of what we are attracted too changes. That's not conditioning yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:06 PM
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The hysterics from the most "logical sex" is hysterical. Calm down Ken this is cringe behaviour... You're a lying hypocrite as you know full well men like you give zero fucks about a shining personality over a hot prospect. Stop projecting. Men when looking for an LTR will very much be looking at her personality. The crazy hot index is a good demonstration of this. Also your personality is a not attractive so you better have other things going for you. You can not negotiate attraction and that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:54 PM
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You have no proof of any of this, so agree to disagree. I've given you proof. What my argument was: "there's no reason to believe what we're sexually attracted to is a result of how we see ourselves" (the basis of your repeated "delusional" claims) and as I said, the fact people pair up within their leagues shows we recognise where we fall in the league, and as I said we all want the best that is why hot people are universally seen as hot. What my argument wasn't: "there's no external influences…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:50 PM
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WTF are you screaming about? Personality is a valued asset for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:40 PM
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The OP is about men conflating looks with moral character, and why this is a pervasive belief in the manosphere. I said in my post in a previous reply to you, read it. You want to talk about women, that's fine, but that wasn't the point of contention I had with your comment. It was your assertion that character and looks are mutually exclusive, like these are traits of a video game character and we can only select one. No it wasn't. The comment you didn't like just said that women will pick a sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:22 PM
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No, whataboutism isn't a rebuttal. Feel free to actually address this. Its not whataboutism, womens averageness is part of the discussion. That's not how sexual attraction works, doesn't even make any sense, and you have no evidence for any of this Attraction isn't set, it is fluid. Plenty of average women find average men attractive, it's the average women with the delusion of thinking they are hot that cause the problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:59 PM
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Do you think the average man today looks the same as the average man a few decades ago? Is he as fit, does he dress himself as well? Do average women? Many average men could be attractive if they were physically active and put more effort into their appearance. This guy is attractive because of his effort. Yes, he's slim, and I have no idea how tall he is (but seems about average), but he's not broad-shouldered and his face is pretty average. But he presents attractively. So could average women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:53 PM
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I'm pretty sure ignoring looks is also part of Beta Bucking. Beta buxing is about not finding the man attractive except for his money. nothing stopping women finding the average man attractive except her delusion. Who said anything about "expect?" Who said anything about "hot?" You just said "personality over looks." It's all part of the whole post. Many women pick the hot man over the mentally sound man because he gives her the tingles, men with options are far more likely to act on them option…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:38 PM
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This is Beta Bucking. "He's nice, kind, respectful, and supports me" Only if there is a large wage discrepancy. Why can't we select for both? Why does one need to be chosen over the other? If you (royal you before you get offended) are not hot then don't expect a hot man. Average women need to be content with average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:26 PM
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The pick better refers to picking personality over looks. The chad v average man is about average women trying to get chad instead of mr average hence chad uses mrs average and wont commit because he will commit to stacy. Problem is lots of women think they are a stacy when they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:43 PM
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She took the "strong independent boss babe pill" and now realises it backfired.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:15 AM
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The wall is undefeated and comes for us all. Some sooner than others. The wall for women is mostly about her ability to have kids. When men talk about it it is in the context of a woman's ability to have a family. Why take the 35yo who is more likely to struggle to have a family (and if you want many kids this is also a factor) when the 25yo has a much better ability to have kids. A woman who wants a family has a much better chance at finding the higher value men to pair up with at 25 than at 35…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:10 PM
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if the loneliness epidemic is so dire as the redpill presents it? Not all men in here are RP (only a few of us) TRP doesn't concern itself with male loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:52 PM
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Hunting's most important part is not the calories it brought in but the proteins and other nutrients to fuel our brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:33 PM
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Can you not extrapolate from the data I gave you. You will never get the levels of kerfuffle over Pokémon cards as society does about sex. Pokémon cards will NEVER be a need, they are not part of our DNA like sex is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 08:54 PM
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Because this whole post is about needs. In this context socialization as to regard to need is about friends etc and not random strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 08:52 PM
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The kerfuffle around them pales in comparison to sex. You still clearly don't understand the human condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:52 PM
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Socialization as being part of a need is very much NOT just talking to a store clerk. The function of belonging is what makes it a need. This is why people can be around others but be lonely, because it isn't just being around others that is the need but being accepted as part of the group that is important. You can be around people who are making fun of you (that would fit the general socialization definition) but you are not getting your social need met. This is what a psychological need is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:49 PM
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Variety in food is a want not a need. I grew up with poor parents in the rural south. Variety of food wasn’t plentiful. Even despite this, I still grew up to be tall, muscular and healthy. Because I didn’t need’variety in order to survive, develop or thrive. You didn't eat the same bland slop everyday. There’s always a lot of Kerfuffle over the latest Pokémon cards and related video games. Are those suddenly “needs”? There is far far more over sex. Wars have happened because of sex. If you don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:44 PM
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It is psychological need. Think about this. The nutrients in food are a need to keep our bodies going. Now, if we got scientists to create a food stuff that had all the nutrients you need to survive and they could make it bland and boring, how many days of eating only that do you think you could survive before it caused psychological damage and you flipped out or broke down? So, is verity of food a need? If sex wasn't a need there wouldn't be so much kerfuffle over it would there?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:32 PM
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Except sex is a wired part of our structure, it is an ingrained biological imperative. Fighting to get the latest pokamon cards or nike trainers isn't. Sex, relationships friends and general socialization are psychological needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:18 PM
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Talking to the clerk is not socialising. Socializing is getting positive feedback and the feeling of belonging you get from being part of a social group. These are friends It's why gangs and things like sports teams fandom is so popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:15 PM
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Sorry forgot you had jumped in to this conversation (the person I replied to said that.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:13 PM
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That doesn’t make sex a need on an individual level tho Yes it does! We are all fighting to get our needs met (whatever they may be) and sexual selection is part of that fight, just because some get excluded for not being up to par doesn't mean they don't suffer from not participating in it. You are conflating species wide requirements with individual. All the male chimps want access to the female but only one gets it, doesn't mean the other chimps go "well I lost never mind" no, they plot to tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:01 PM
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Sex (reproduction) is the driving force behind all life on this planet and 1 of only 2 things we share with all life (the other being the need to get resources.) You can certainly be well adjusted without it but that doesn't mean it isn't causing distress to some extent which is causing psychological damage, this can vary depending on the person. Asexuals will feel no need for it but someone with a strong libido will feel a very strong need for it and so will suffer more psychological damage fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:36 PM
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Friends and socialization are the same. They come from the same aspects. You can't be social if people are not friendly around you. You said socialization is a need like water and food.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:26 PM
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No. What people don't understand around here is the difference between a physical need and a psychological need. Air water and food are physical needs that cause physical damage to the body if you don't get them (die) Socialization, relationships, friends, intimacy and sex are (for most people) psychological needs, that without them can cause psychological damage. Humans are social animals and that is why the vast majority of people seek out friends and relationships. Life is about experiences a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:21 PM
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Socialization falls under the psychological needs like friends, relationships, intimacy and sex. You don't need it to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:09 PM
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Because I am not and never was advocating for rapey behaviour. I was pointing out that there are plenty of women who want men to push and chase. This leads to lots of men not taking a no seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:51 PM
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Socialization and friends aren’t the same. A child who never socializes with other humans doesn’t develop language. You don't need language. (according to their definition) Psychological needs are still needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:15 PM
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Friends aren't a need either, I didn't claim that so it's not really a gotcha. So this? Needs are things you need to survive, food, water, shelter, medical care, socialization and little else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:24 AM
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No means no, dude. It doesn't mean "keep pushing". Yes. You're sounding kinda rapey right now. Only because you (like the other morons who downvoted the comment) don't understand what has been written.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:04 AM
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Blame the women who don't want their "no" to be taken as the final answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:27 PM
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Men and women haven’t changed. They are biologically the same now as they were when I was dating. We might all have the same bits and bobs but society has changed along with the views and attitudes. Social media has had massive effects on the social fabric.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:20 PM
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That depends on the degree. Plenty of bullshit degrees that mean nothing available.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:52 PM
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We are not talking about 2 different things, you just don't seem to understand the conversation. Primary earner earns between 60 and 99% of household income (with sole earning 100%) Someone working P/T can be earning any % of household income. 60-40 is both working full time but his salary is slightly higher. Again it isn't slightly higher it is 50% more than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:22 AM
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I’m in the US, and admittedly wealthier than most - but I’ve had way too many patients crying in my office over an unexpected $80 invoice from a provider to believe you that they could lose 40% of their household income without it being a disaster. You do know that almost 40% of this country doesn’t have enough cash on hand to cover a $400 emergency, right? I think you’re being highly unrealistic 🤷‍♀️ Again you are talking about an effective 3rd world country. 3/4 of the US are effectively poor …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:10 PM
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No just below you like an object Explain how you manage to come to the conclusion that if someone is below you socially they are an object? Oh Hun, if you can't even see a partner as equal then you will always be lonely. Babe, if you think everyone is equal you're in for a rough time. And loneliness is a feeling that can be caused by different things and I don't feel lonely so I'm in fact not lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:55 PM
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Again I haven't said anyone was an object. Not everyone is equal, it's that simple. I'm not lonely, that is just you trying to project something to console yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:40 PM
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I don't know what it's like in your 3rd world country but here the working class (while things are tight) the lower one losing their income (below 40% of household) is not catastrophic. The middle class still argue over the chores (most people on this sub are middle class and its an argument that happens often enough) Kids exuberate things because women over estimate how much they actually do, the amount of women who moan about this and that and yet chores have never been easier and looking afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:26 PM
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All life is about hierarchy. You're just demonstrating again that women do not think about money properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:04 PM
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No. If the lower earners pay is an inconvenience to lose then you are the primary. If the higher earnings are lost and it is catastrophic they are the primary. Losing 60% or more of the household income is catastrophic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:03 PM
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At no point did I say they see them as property. If you don't understand how hierarchies work just say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:56 PM
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Okay, I see what you’ve done, but that is even more tortured and even less useful. When you have to beat the shit out of the data like that to reach your desired outcome, it doesn’t have any applicability to real world situations. Lol, I haven't "beaten" the data it is just how it is. Kids complicate everything, but even pre kids - if you’ve got spouse 1 working full time as a software developer bringing in 60% of the household income, and spouse 2 working full time as a 7th grade teacher bringi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:54 PM
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Except it's how it works in a lot of other countries How what works? In every country the higher earner (of enough) is the one above the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:47 PM
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And it doesn't take away from what I said. You can add bonuses etc to totals and if one is out earning by a margin then they are above the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:39 PM
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That is a very tortured and not particularly useful way of calculating, lol. And your numbers aren’t even correct (50% of 60k would be 30k, not 40k.) Holy shit do you read anything? He earns 50% more. 50% of 40k is 20k = 60k FWIW? This is a very common source of discord in dual income marriages where both spouses work full time. He makes a bit more than her, but nowhere ENOUGH more that they could afford for her to cut down to part time. That’s exactly the situation where chores and childcare be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:35 PM
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It's 60% of household income (if you bothered to read that link) man = 60k woman = 40k = 100k Man is earning 60% and it is 50% more than her. Primary is earning 60% or more of the household income.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:15 PM
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better insurance, retirement etc. Such an American thing lol. In the civilized world the first thing isn't a consideration and the second the higher earner will have a better one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:10 PM
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60% is 50% more than the other person. To me that is a very generous cut off. To be egalitarian it should be closer to 10-15% more max.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:05 PM
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2 people can be in the same class but one is still above the other. A man earning 100k and a woman earning 60k can still be in the same class but she is still dating up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:03 PM
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So she spends $71.42 a month per child? Yeah I call BS. A mans child support should cover half the needs of a child (she is responsible for the other half) Edit- Her account is skits/satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:49 PM
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Because they are not robots. The complexity of a robot and its need to facilitate its independence means making it self cleaning will be a must.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:48 AM
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There isn't significant change. Fashion might make things look different but bone structure is the same. The more symmetrical the face the higher it ranks in beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:00 PM
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I know plenty of women who are happy single and aren't looking for a man. They would happily take a male robot that can cook, clean, kill spiders and be able to give her all the orgasms she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:55 PM
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Human attraction is subjective and can't be put on an objective list If that were true there would be no such thing as beauty standards
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:52 PM
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In a robot with a power sauce cleaning wont be a problem. Hook it to a tap and some liquid soap and a self flush system will take care of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:43 PM
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The title is fine and makes sense (everyone else understood it) "might makes right" is the object in that sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:53 PM
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Some women are and some women like the bad boy to try and tame.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 06:43 PM
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Women's hypergamy means all sorts of men are "thirsted" over. This is because you only have to be above her to illicit some attraction. A 3 woman can "thirst" over a 6 man because she is out of her league. And what do you mean "you red pillers" your flair is TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 06:42 PM
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That's what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 06:39 PM
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Women are still attracted to tall, fit, successful, confident men. It still works.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:05 AM
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Women in here have all got stories of men they say were arseholes and yet they dated them and as women post rationalize a break up to absolve themselves of fault found them attractive when they were being arseholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:04 AM
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Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:01 AM
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That's why you vet people to find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:00 AM
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No it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 06:59 AM
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You need to let go of the idea of women "drooling" or "thirsting" over men. Go watch any of them trash shows (here in the UK they were done by the likes of Jeremy Kyle) plenty of below average men getting multiple women pregnant or in poly relationships or caught cheating. look at any men in power and they are plenty of arseholes on show who have no troubles and there are average men who also don't have any problems. I would bet my bottom dollar the problem a lot of these men have is they don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:12 PM
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For the successful ones you can't say for certain but it also happens at other levels. Women in here have all got stories of men they say were arseholes and yet they dated them and as women post rationalize a break up to absolve themselves of fault found them attractive when they were being arseholes. Plenty of women like the arsehole personality traits because these men are confident and "bad boys"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:41 PM
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Ok lets take the personal anecdotes out of the equation to stop this argument so we can't accuse each other of making shit up. Read my last tip. Plenty of arseholes in successful positions throughout the spectrum do not have problems getting women. This is an objective fact. And no I'm not lying, for info.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:26 PM
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Where do you even see these men? In spaces where successful men are. If you really was RP you would be in these spaces too. No one said just be an average ass, you need to put some work in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:22 PM
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lol. You know nothing. Go out and look at the men out there with women, you will see all sorts including arseholes. Tip, lots of men in positions of power from successful but small business owners up to and including the elites are full of arseholes, non of them had trouble getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:30 PM
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Not really. Plenty of average arseholes out there getting with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:21 PM
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Who invented that word? and how do you know? It's been around since at least the 80's (first time I heard it)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:20 PM
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Arrogant, selfish, difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:15 PM
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Some men just don't have it in them. They maybe RP in their knowledge but there actions betray them (or maybe they are just Black Pill larpers)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:14 PM
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It does work, but you have to, er, you know do what it says. Lots of men out there not putting in the work and just bitchin online.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:32 PM
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This is just you (and the rest of the blue pill lot) projecting your hopes that we are wrong. Well we aren't. I was at my most active when being an arsehole, plenty of women love men like that (and no they aren't all mentally ill) There are women who like normal men but they are fewer than before (or maybe its always been fewer and women being free to choose now just shows their true colors.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:29 PM
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lol no! They wouldn't make me a mod as I would ban half the people in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:27 PM
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Why would I let a stranger know all my accounts? If they have your name (and they should) then they should be able to find a bit about you anyway so giving them your socials isn't a big deal (this happens after some time texting/talking.) Thats not hard to do for someone hiding a kid whatsoever. Whats not hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:14 PM
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Are you making the assertion that only, or mostly, women go after looks? No. Most people* probably first get interested in someone because of their looks or some superficial part of their personality, because how is it even practical to start with who someone is deep inside? Presumably you have to start by getting to know someone first, and why then would you not choose someone who attracts you from the start? There is nothing wrong in finding someone attractive. The point of all this is that ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:25 PM
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Clearly you didn't. I wasn't justifying the idea and even said how stupid it was. If someone uses a stupid argument expect a over the top response to show how stupid it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:13 PM
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I suggest you re read this interaction and see why I brought that up. Because its clear from this response you didn't bother reading any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:05 PM
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I didn't imply any of that, i just said your solutions wont work because people are animals. Women are always going to take status into consideration. See how stupid that is? You implied it by using the animal argument, and it does work as plenty of people don't date arseholes. As to your second point, maybe read my comment better because that's what i said You said arsehole behaviour comes from fake confidence when this is not true. Arsehole behaviour comes from people who don't tend to care ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:02 PM
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One of the things all people should do (if looking for an ltr) is share their socials, this in todays society is a major red flag if they refuse. Spending more than 1 or 2 nights texting is needed to do proper vetting, having a kid is a big part of your life and hiding it is not simple . I bet this guy didn't even ask if she had kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:42 PM
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Do you understand you cant know everything about a person before the first date? With cold approaching and online dating, its two strangers meeting up. Have you never heard of people finding things out during a date that wasnt established prior? Never had you ever heard of it? You are demonstrating your lack of ability to vet. Cold approach is rare as fuck. and online dating gives you all the time you need to vet. Texting, talking on the phone or video chats are all great ways to vet people, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:27 PM
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People are animals, so no lol You want to go down the animal argument? Ok why don't we let the right strip women's rights as women can't do anything about it and it's only natural men use their physical advantage to dominate women? See how stupid that is? Women consider status because it correlates strongly with competence and confidence. Asshole behavior (such as narcissism) is a fake type of confidence, that's why it works. No it doesn't. Arsehole behavior comes more often from men who are com…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:13 PM
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So do you guys not understand that part of early dating is VETTING? Because guys here whine about choosing better even when women talk about bad first dates. Do you understand that VETTING starts before the first date? Vast majority of first dates are not with a complete stranger, they are with co workers or people in your social sphere, they are with people you matched with on dating apps. This gives you plenty of vetting opportunity before even going on that first date. (and no most people are…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:00 PM
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There are plenty of them out there (men and women) doesn't mean you have to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:34 PM
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This sub really struggles to understand good looks doesn't mean bad personality and bad/average looks does not mean good man. The sub understands it. What doesn't seem to get through to people is that "choose better" means start with their character (find the genuine good men) and stop focusing on looks and status (most women) Funny how y'all say "well I gave an unattractive man a chance and he was still an arsehole" yet don't see you are still picking an arsehole. Stop dating/fucking the arseho…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:29 PM
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Why have you posted this here? There is no mention of fathers in the article. These women probably don't know who the father even is, they are the broken in society (nearly 600k births that year and only 3000 of these cases) councils don't jump to remove babies without good reason. "In a recent research paper for the European Journal of Midwifery, De Backer argued that these mothers had usually experienced ­considerable trauma in their lives, and losing their baby often triggered an “acute ­cris…
/r/MensRights27/01/25 10:26 AM
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Both. Men didn't want to get shouted at by a very aggressive woman. Take a look at the comments on the video, they are all agreeing with us on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:26 PM
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Men bond over doing things together. In the UK there is an organisation called Men's sheds who work to bring men together (though they really struggle for funding)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:19 PM
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And that is perfectly fine to want. It doesn't take away from the fact most men also want a non promiscuous woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:03 PM
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You have chosen the easy targets that you can just throw the "you're a man and so if you don't agree that means I'm right" I don't need to provide anything, others (including the women you wont argue against) have told you this women is not smart and confident but dumb and arrogant. Her friends are gas lighting her, she doesn't get men because she is simply a fat arrogant loudmouth that men are not attracted too. This is a great example of how women lie to fit in to a group, men would have told …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:01 PM
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lol, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:56 PM
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Then you are simply an idiot. You might not like the term or limits set in place by it, it doesn't change the fact she is classed as obese, she is objectively excessively fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:44 PM
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i assume a healthy normal guy really wouldn’t get insecure about it. You assume wrong. Most men don't like promiscuous women (for LTR they are fine for fun) that is why terms like "the town bike" exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:42 PM
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You don't get to redefine an already established fact. She is obese, end of.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:38 PM
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obese already has a definition and she fits it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:16 PM
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Why are you not arguing with the woman who currently has the top post who is saying the same thing? ((she posted before you posted this) Oh yeah its because you are a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:58 PM
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You shouldn't be fucking and having a kid with a druggy, abusive felon. And if you do you deserve all the shaming society can throw at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:34 PM
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Every sub-demographic had women working more total hours (paid+unpaid combined). Unpaid work isn't work. That's just total bullshit tho. I'd much rather sit on my fat ass in an office than run around after kids whilst also finding time to juggle cleaning, laundry, cooking, and god knows what else. Then you are lazy fuck, I've worked in offices and if you are actually doing your job it is a lot more mentally tiring, I've looked after my kid while she was at work and done the chores, it is a piece…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:32 PM
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If you was prioritizing a child then the first priority would be to be with a man who sticks around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:08 PM
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No it doesn't. How about you understand what I wrote before posting shit. Men work more hours than women Your link states. || || |Dif|1:20:30| Men work more than women. working a job is far more work and tiring than doing housework. And if you don't believe me think about the fact so many people happily and easily live alone doing 40+ hours of paid work, still do all their chores and have the time to do their leisure activities. And when it comes to having kids, women are far more likely to work…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:04 PM
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Men work more hours than women. and yes even single women with no children.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 08:08 PM
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The second shift is alive and well, it seems. How best can we men tackle this issue? There is no issue to tackle.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 07:25 PM
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Your whole stance is that women don't discuss sex truthfully with eachother, No, my stance is that there are some women out there who are not honest. but you can't even say that since you're a man. they're going to lie because YOU are there. I can say it because I was the one who has had sex with them and know what they are like in bed, so they wouldn't need to lie because I'm there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:14 AM
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60%
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:07 PM
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lol your so reaching for anything to try and not admit your wrong. Friends sit around drink and chat, you would know that if you had any.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:35 PM
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Haha more shaming tactics. I was the one who fucked some of them while they are telling their girlfriends they are pretty vanilla in the bedroom. So no lying to me. You don't even know what a good fucking is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:06 PM
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I definitely know you don't fuck if you think it can only be done with a penis. your poor partners, they've been begging you to find the clit and here you are hammering away LOL Typical feminine reply, try and shame. You can make love and you can have sexual relations but you cannot fuck. also you really don't understand women if you dont think we talk EXPLICITLY about our sexual exploits lol lol, I have sat next to many women I know are dirty in the bedroom and they are trying to portray themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:26 PM
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Well you need a penis to fuck a woman so. No, women talk shit all the time, they lie about shit all the time too. So no, women no doubt talk about how "yes we practice safe sex" to come across as a good girl to her friends while she secretly likes getting cream pied.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:08 PM
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Oh you have a penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:57 PM
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Doubt it all you want, you don't fuck women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:44 PM
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I bet it's closer than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:37 PM
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There are a lot of women out there who don't need to orgasm to enjoy sex. Me and my friends have had women who got mardy that we wanted to use a condom. Women don't like them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:28 PM
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I'm in the UK and get the same error.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:18 PM
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You would be surprised how many women also want to go raw.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:16 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:08 PM
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But not better leaders than women eho also have their shit together. Yes better even than them, as women with their shit together find and marry these types of men and submit to them. And yes I’ve known women who put the spending curbs on their husbands. Ah the "yes dear" men, weak willed and under the thumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:03 PM
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They have to be broken of their blue pill beliefs. Men have been risen in feminist spheres and taught to serve women's needs. Once you set them straight they have the natural characteristics to lead. Leadership entails masculine traits. They still have more rationality than women even in this state.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:01 PM
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I’m woman enough to admit when I don’t know something. That’s what helps me to learn. Fair enough. I like the idea of men and boys being able to build value and character in a caring supported context. The bigotry of low expectations has done a number of many boys in public schools. Trouble is you have to break them of their blue pill beliefs which entail hard realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:57 PM
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Yes, lots of incels disguised as RP. OG RP is like you mention, and men like that make better leaders and women are drawn to them and willingly submit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:56 PM
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I don’t know the answer to that, I’ll be honest. Yet you present as a purple pill? To boil it down, it says for men to get their shit together and to build value. TRP has gotten the wider perspective as it wasn't built by one man but thousands of men inputting their experiences and in the end is an amalgamation of all that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:58 AM
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Some men are not adequate leaders, other men are great family leaders. Correct. Now using the context of the OP who is directing this at RP, what Does TRP say for men to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:46 AM
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Do they necessarily handle things better than the women would though? Yes, I know men who keep their wives spending habits under control, I don't know any women who have to do that for their men (I know women who are good with money) I am just pushing back against the idea that men should be leaders because they're so much more rational and good with finances. Men who have their shit together (any RP guy should have his shit together) is more rational, has better control of his finances and make…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:37 AM
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And there are plenty of concrete examples of men who are the breadwinners and handle everything just fine. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:25 AM
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She is aromantic and asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:44 PM
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The projection is strong here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:53 PM
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Nothing can ensure someone reads what you’ve written. I didn't say ensure (people can ignore whatever) but it does work to draw peoples eyes in and increases the chance of not only reading but comprehending what is written. When highlighting your text, it’s to emphasise the emotion behind it so your reader can understand the seriousness No it isn't. Google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:53 AM
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It is true, it is shown on here on a daily basis. It's not emotional or selfish to highlight specific parts of your writing to make sure it is read.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:33 AM
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No it isn't. It is to draw the readers eye, because most people don't read things properly and so bolding draws the readers eye in to make sure they read that part properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:27 AM
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, and he confirmed it in a reply. Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:25 AM
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Only thing that I would question is the welding career. Some welders make lots of money because they are away a lot and this would reduce time together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:37 PM
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Depends on looks and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:25 PM
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aromantic, asexual Well that explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:06 PM
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Married in 2014 when he was already a manager and she would have known how much time and effort he would have to put into it.
/r/MensRights18/01/25 02:02 PM
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Women who're not mothers now outearn both their male peers and their female peers who do have children. No they don't. Men without kids out earn women without kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:36 PM
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but most people lack the intelligence to actually spot it or actively ignore it to begin with because they aren't abusive to them (yet). Most people don't even recognise abuse, they think of it as beatings or shouting like a lunatic. The sly comments and using people while putting on a smile is abuse but most don't recognise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 10:11 PM
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but most people lack the intelligence to actually spot it or actively ignore it to begin with because they aren't abusive to them (yet).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:24 PM
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Yeah you seem to think people who are abusers advertise that. They really don’t No they really do. They are abusive to family, they are abusive to service workers and other people in public. This is because they are, in general, shitty people, they are not that hard to spot but most people lack the intelligence to actually spot it or actively ignore it to begin with because they aren't abusive to them (yet).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 07:54 PM
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That is for sexual arousal, we are talking about selecting partners. The one being more picky is more visual.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:15 PM
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Gold diggers like money. Normal women are picky for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:33 PM
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The motivation for the analogy is TO FIND A PARTNER. It doesn't matter what other things are being sought after. Women are pickier than men over the looks of their potential partner so therefore are more visual. Men looking for a partner have a wider range and are less picky, therefore looks play less of a roll.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:03 PM
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You find someone attractive or you don't, it is a binary choice. Just because you can point at some and say "damn they ugly" doesn't make 3 types. Women in here have stated they literally find a small % of men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:37 PM
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I have, re read the thread. Men and women WHO ARE LOOKING FOR A RELATIONSHIP do have the same motivation TO FIND A PARTNER. Men willing to fuck anything means they are not bothered by looks and if women weren't bothered by looks they would date most men, but they don't, because they have a higher threshold for looks than men so are more visual sensitive which is being more visual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:04 PM
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I addressed your reasoning you are just not reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:56 PM
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I’ve already explained my reasoning and you’ve presented nothing to disprove me. That means your explanation fails, by definition. I've shown how your reasoning fails and that is because you are only looking at this from the "men are more horny" perspective. I have explained that when both the man and woman are on the same page (looking for a partner) she has more demands on the visual level than the man, making her more visual. Neither the OP nor I were talking about magical individuals who hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:50 PM
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You’ve explained why and your explanation fails. No it doesn't. A woman being more sensitive to looks is a product of them being less visually inclined, No, it makes them more visually inclined, if you are only interested in a tiny proportion compared to the other sex who has a wider gamut for attraction, then you are more visually inclined. You’ve done nothing to make me disbelieve this, and your explanation really only serves to prove my point bc it relies on the man and woman being equally mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:32 PM
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My analogy works perfectly, No it doesn't, and I've explained why. Men wanting sex more has nothing to do with being visual or not. When a man and a woman both want a partner the woman is more sensitive to looks than the man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:23 PM
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Your analogy doesn't work. Both the man and the woman are "looking" for a partner, in your analogy one is hungry the other isn't (hunger being the motivation like "looking" for a partner) For your analogy to work it would need to be the same motivation. A man and a woman are not hungry but they are offered some skittles, both accept the idea of taking a skittle. The man isn't bothered about the colour of the skittle and take one at random while the woman only finds the yellow ones attractive to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 07:44 PM
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being less visual and needing very strong visual markers for attraction That would make them more visual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:57 PM
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Why should women learn not to care? Because it is good for them. That would only take away their advantage and put them on an equal footing with men. Hmmm, wanting their cake and eat it, what a shocker, women have wanted equality for a long time and that comes with some down sides too. Good luck convincing a woman to choose an average guy over a handsome, wealthy man who is already into her. Yeah, let her get used by these men, not enough women moaning about these types of men /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:32 PM
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Yes. It's called allomedication. https://www.sapiens.org/biology/chimpanzees-self-medication-wound/ Chimps do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:37 PM
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Except they don't (not the numbers needed) this is why the right are winning, they are having more babies than the left. It is something the left have not thought about, they are so busy with equality and social justice that they forgot they need to bread the new generation in to take their place to carry on their work. Women still want a family (with a husband) as its hard as fuck to have and raise 2.1 children on your own. All the women moaning about there not being enough men (who they deem w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:55 PM
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Hence why I asked about Jack, he as charisma and definitely doesn't have the looks. So Jack or Chris?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:22 PM
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Except if they don't we end up with more and more single people and a birth rate that will result in being taken over by people who do want to limit women's rights (see trump et el) You, me and everyone else is not "free", we are at the ultimate mercy of those in power. People need to realize this and act in accordance with what kind of society they want to leave for future generations. If you want a world that is as equal as we can get it then you have to accept the things you might not complet…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:21 PM
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I am judging women who ONLY date better. Despite earning her own money she still wants more. Women have fought long and hard for their rights and now they have them they have to accept the drawbacks as well, this includes the fact they now have to date men who earn the same or lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:54 PM
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Doubt you know if Chris has it either. Plenty of men with the same charisma and being fun like your husband but also has the looks of Chris. So who would you pick?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:39 PM
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Yep (not sure who is downvoting my first comment, morons)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:37 PM
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The fact I would date someone more beautiful doesn't negate the argument being made in this thread. I would also date someone on my level. Lots of women ONLY date men who earn more than them, it is a requirement despite her ability to earn the same (I don't have the ability to be as beautiful as most women) This is why your gotcha isn't a gotcha, learn to read and understand what is being talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:36 PM
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Desire for medicine when sick is not a trait we share with other animals. Other animals are unaware of the concept of medicine I think you will find many animals knowingly use plants and insects for medication.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:43 PM
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Keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile, the fact that women's beauty standards exist proves you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:39 PM
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You prefer jack black over Chris Hemsworth?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:36 PM
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beauty cant be measured so. Yes it can. Mathematically the closer to symmetrical a face is the more beautiful it is. Women are more beautiful than men. I don't have the ability to change my facial structure so no I can't get close. You are trying to use a gotcha that isn't relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:10 PM
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I can't Women are more beautiful than men, so without the option to be as beautiful as women it is an irrelevant question.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:54 AM
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But I don't have the choice to be as beautiful as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 11:13 PM
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1/3rd of American marriages the woman is the breadwinner Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:55 AM
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I see a lot of virtue signalling in the future here 🍿
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:56 PM
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Link?
/r/MensRights05/01/25 08:39 PM
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Out of 18m. It was a sample. There is only 4m teachers in the US TOTAL. This source says mothers face a much larger pay gap than women without kids and doesn’t give the number for childless women at all, only mothers and then all women. Yes mothers do no one is arguing that. Sorry wrong link I had several open https://www.hrdive.com/news/parenthood-gender-pay-gap/708247/#:~:text=Working%20mothers%20make%20a%20median,January%202022%20and%20January%202024. Here in the UK it is a similar rate at 9%…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:57 PM
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Ok so teacher and associated roles, still only 4.2m of the 75m working women. Most women are not forward thinking about kids that it makes them pick a job solely based on that fact, they just aren't. That is from denmark. In the us https://www.aauw.org/resources/article/fast-facts-pay-gap/ Women without kids earn less than men without kids. And again, women do not need to be told this. As they have been starting to earn more money relative to men more of them outearn their husbands. This is alre…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:40 PM
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There is only 4m teachers in the US so don't know where they get 4.5m women. And looking at your link there is 1.8m female teachers. The women having kids beforehand doesn’t negate my point at all, it strengthens it, women pick these jobs for the flexibility in childrearing It doesn't strengthen your position lol. Women are picking their career before having kids, then they change roles when they have kids (like my SIL did). Women without kids still earn less than men, so women are choosing to n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:12 PM
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There are about 75m working women in the US, 3m is not anywhere near "most women" it doesn't matter what the rest are the % of women in teaching (nursing doesn't have the benefits as the shifts and work loads are brutal) I bet most women in them other jobs you mention already have kids and so picked them jobs afterwards, and not because of future potential time off. Women's choices not only about the job they pick it is also they don't do the overtime men do, they don't push for promotions and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:58 PM
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I'm not saying it would it make them swoon, it was a simple way of showing how ridiculous the 60% household income number they use is. The extra 50% will make women accept a man or not though. It can be the make or break for lots of women when assessing a man for LTR. It also means the idea that 45% of relationships are a sign of women accepting men earning similar or less is a red herring. I don't know the figures but I bet at least half of that 29% are men earning over 25% more than the woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:41 PM
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We both have only anecdotes, I am going to continue to believe the one that reflects the experience I have, and reflects what the women around me say. I don't believe they are saying "I picked this job because of my future ambitions to have kids and the benefits it brings" It's at best is a bonus, but it isn't close to the main reason. And with all this said, these careers (teachers/looking after kids in some way) only have a fraction of the women who work in them in total. So most women are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:35 PM
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Well nearly all the women I know picked their careers for the benefits related to children, and I work in a woman dominated field that is slightly higher paying than the norm (autism care), so something tells me I interface with more women than you do. I bet your wrong. My business has me interacting with hundreds of women (from owners to employees) a month. Not once have I heard any of them say about the childcare/leave as being the reason they do the work they do. It's all "I like to work with…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:58 PM
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Maybe women could hypothetically earn the same in a vacuum where women and men had the exact same social expectations for decades, but due to pressures primarily from pregnancy and child rearing, women had to consider different choices in job selection That's cope. Not a single woman I know pick there careers for the benefits when having kids, they have all done it because the job itself appeals to them. You only have to look at countries in Europe to see women wont reach that 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:03 PM
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Some women do, but more women than used to are choosing to date men that earn the same or less, and there is no reason to think this trend would just stop Yes some do. Women have been able to earn the same as men for a few decades now and yet we are only at 16% for female breadwinners, it should be close to 50% by now but as women still want to have their cake and eat it too we have the shit going on now. Also, my source doesn’t even go into this, who is to say that the women choosing higher ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:32 PM
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Yeah, because men don't care. Women need to learn not to care either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:27 PM
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29% are roughly egalitarian. Their definition is bad. 60% is not Egalitarian, the man earning 60k and the woman earning 40k is classed as egalitarian but that is 50% more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:20 PM
5

And yet today women can earn the same as men but still choose men who earn more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:15 PM
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The top and bottom of the IQ curve is men. So when talking about being the best you are going to find it's men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:30 AM
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I believe the division of gender in things like chess, math, spelling bees, science-based competitions etc. should be stopped as mental agility is on equal grounds and female,male, and all members in the LGBTQ2S+ have equal chance in being victorious. While with the average man and women there isn't any difference at the top end there is. In chess they separate it as the top female chess players never win anything as the top men are better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:03 AM
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If your evidence that men are providing more protection than women is “media depictions of gender roles,” why do you believe these media are accurately depicting actual human behavior and not simply teaching you how you should feel about yourself, your role in a relationship, and the categories to which we assign men and women’s actions? Because it happened before media, media just reinforced those roles. Goes back to my “baby shit” example: women are “scared” of spiders, but men are “something …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:10 PM
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You claimed that “only men” perform the role of walking on the road-side of the pavement, and for evidence you cited your own experience and the experience of them men you know. Because it is only men that get taught it, its part of the whole gender role thing. Do you know all men, or even some substantial fraction of men? You don't need to talk to everyone to produce a survey of reasonable results, this isn't just my experience it is a gender role given to men, you can see it in media and liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 10:46 PM
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They are not feelings mistaken for facts. Its a lived experience of men. Women do not realise how much men provide protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 10:35 PM
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Yes, known.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 10:17 PM
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I'm not the one laughing at the idea of someone with a psychological disability. So get your head out your ass and grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 10:06 PM
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46 years of my life and all the men I know. I am not aware of any research into this (and why would the bother) because everyone but you (and maybe some butt hurt feminists) know men do more protecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 10:04 PM
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Walking on the road-side of the pavement Only men perform this role. Dealing with “creepy crawlies” Far more women than men are scared of creepy crawlies. Going to check for noises downstairs You think women do that more? Not everyone has kids and most dads nowadays do nappy changes and clean up sick so they aren't protecting them dads. So yeah men do more protecting than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 10:01 PM
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Not dramatic, an appropriate reply to someone being an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 09:56 PM
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Nice ableist reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 09:52 PM
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You really think women provide more? Things that a lot of women aren't even aware of like walking on the road side of the pavement is a form of protection or making sure they are in-between anyone who seems a threat. Far more women are scared of creepy crawlies than men. Men are the ones sent down stairs to see what the noise is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 09:52 PM
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No one is arguing a woman can't protect a man, the conversation was about how men protect women. Men provide more protection (both individually and societally) than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 09:38 PM
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Maybe they are to some degree. Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 09:29 PM
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Irish girls are a different breed 🤣 They'll fight anyone. But yeah, women's shit stinks as bad as men's but some don't want to acknowledge that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:35 PM
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You should see someone about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:15 PM
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Only in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:12 PM
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Psychological protection yeah. I can't count the number of times I have had to remove something that is freaking a woman out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:10 PM
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Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:07 PM
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Most women are scared of some creepy crawly of some description so it isn't niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:02 PM
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I'm not going through your very large comment history looking for the one comment I remember from months back. I remember it because it was quite funny (but still bullying)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:01 PM
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What does it matter? you asked for an example of protection that isn't physical and I gave it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:58 PM
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I've seen you shit on a blue pill woman who didn't insult you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:57 PM
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Some yes (ex's mostly) but I did have one friend who seemed to enjoy starting shit then expected me to pick up the pieces.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:55 PM
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You could be a entomophobe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:53 PM
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No it wouldn't. Some shitty little spider can't physically hurt you but it sure causes mental anguish to someone who suffers from arachnophobia.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:46 PM
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Pubs. And no.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:44 PM
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No it isn't Yes it is. How? Removing a spider from the presences of someone with arachnophobia would be psychological protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:34 PM
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Not by much. So your claim is bullshit. What else is it about? It can be psychological as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:30 PM
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Because it isn't just men that are the problem. I have protected women from men and women (it's harder to protect from a female attacker)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:22 PM
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Men work more hours because they do less childcare. Men work more hours in all categories. Spiders? Really? Depends if you live in Australia I suppose, but protection isn't only about physical safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:18 PM
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I've seen you shit on people with no prior attack on you, so yeah, that makes you a bully.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 06:56 PM
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Other people being bullies doesn't take away the fact you are also a bully.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 06:24 PM
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She (like him) has a duty to him to make him happy. Yeah that is why I said this. Notice you didn't answer the question though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:53 AM
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How obligated is a wife to offer her body as a sex toy? She (like him) has a duty to him to make him happy. Do you not think you have a duty to your man to try and make him happy? And how do men get any enjoyment out of fucking an unresponsive, dry body? I don't know (lube? or maybe they do get wet, I remember reading something about rape victims still getting wet, you can't tell me they got turned on by being raped.) If a boyfriend was too tired, stressed, or coming down with something, I just …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 11:21 PM
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Doesn't just have to hormones, she could just not have much of a sex drive. Women have a lower drive than men. That is why to a man bad sex is better than no sex but isn't for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 11:03 PM
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I think it’s bizarre to monopolize her body for what is clearly bad and one-sided sexual gratification, otherwise she’d be doing it. You are determined this is the fact. While it could be the case (and if it is he would have been shit before they got married) the other possibility is she doesn't have much of a sex drive (could be lots of reasons for this)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 10:45 PM
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The example given happens with women so whats the excuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 06:18 PM
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What's a matter of safety?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:43 PM
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In other words, the 80-20 rule only applies to casual sex. That was its original meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 09:11 AM
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There isn't any evidence of women hunting. Someone found a buried female with some items that can be used for hunting and the feminists screeched "see women hunted too"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:47 PM
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Not just mods. I had a comment (with 3 replies on it) nuked by a reddit admin, not deleted but completely gone with no trace of them. didn't even mention race, just commented that some stats someone posted were the result of a "certain demographic"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:53 AM
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LMAO. OK, lets do this. Disingenuous, slightly dishonest, or not speaking the complete truth. You (like a lot of feminists) will use statistics in a way that while it is correct, it is in a context to make it seem worse for women. So your stat might be correct, in the context of the conversation it is misleading. Going to the substance, first, why do only US women matter? The vast majority of women aren't in the US. Because our conversations are about the west (and I was granting you the worst s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:45 AM
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Holy statistics batman! First off, using worldwide figures is disingenuous, the rate in the US is about 22 per 100,000 Second a woman is far far FAR more likely to die in a car crash on the way to the hospital to give birth than to die giving birth. So no it isn't "extraordinarily dangerous"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:32 AM
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And any preference you have means you see them as better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:04 PM
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women care about the top 20% in looks and status. Men care about the top 30% in looks. No. This is because most people understand on some level the idea of "leagues" the 4 woman knows she is very unlikely to find a man who is tall, rich, good looking etc and most men know they aren't going to get the hot woman. Tell a mid girl about AF/BB and she will be like I’ve done one hot buff guy, and went on a date with a couple guys who had bunch of money. She probably not know what your on about, but yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:01 PM
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People are looking for the "best" partner. IF you say "I only date people with a degree" you are saying that you find those with one better than those without.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:53 PM
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It isn't all about the top % of men and women. For the 4/10 woman, a 7 man is her alpha while the 4 man is her BB. Women of all levels are the same at base.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:31 PM
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TRP isn't about making you a 1% man so you can date the top 15% of women. It's for any man whatever level to know whats going on and the best ways to find success. Plenty of average men going after average women and TRP still holds for women of any level.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:57 PM
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LOL. That's it run off. You think if someone wants to eat a shit ton of cake it wont have any negative effects? So yes it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:58 AM
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It does you just lack the ability to think. Just because we might want something doesn't mean it is good for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:14 AM
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RP men don't expect to have the same level as women, they inspire to be the man that has plenty of options (still not as many as women have though)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:13 AM
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Men evolved to impregnate as many women as they could. Men evolved to try and secure paternity. Women evolved to secure the best genes possible. Women evolved to sucker men in who aren't the best but provide other benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:11 AM
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Yes. Men are designed to be competitive and that means for there to be a winner you have to have a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:11 AM
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Lots of people want to eats lots of sugar and fat, doesn't mean they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:10 AM
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Men evolved to impregnate as many women as they could. Men evolved to try and secure paternity. Women evolved to secure the best genes possible. Women evolved to sucker men in who aren't the best but provide other benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:09 AM
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Men evolved to try and secure paternity best way of doing that is with a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:05 AM
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Who said women don't like sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:28 PM
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What statement you can use this with that men don't agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:28 PM
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You can have a fuck ton of sex in an LTR with 1 person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:24 PM
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Yes women enjoy sex. What has that got to do with whether its with 1 man or many men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:24 PM
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Because men and women are different and we evolved differently over the millennia.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:14 PM
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There are more 25-40 yo than all other ages combined according to the survey results. Plenty of older men in here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:25 PM
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Because around that age women tend to leave the workforce at a higher rate, and cut back on hours a lot more, while men do the opposite. Married men work more hours every week, while married women work less. So men earn more. Because men tend to be in higher paying careers that bring the averages up a ton. Averages don't tell nearly the whole picture. The average guy is likely making a pretty similar income to the average woman, especially in cities. The average is about the same as we have esta…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:21 PM
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So your reply to the other person didn't address the points raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:14 PM
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It is for young people but once you get to 30 the gap starts to widen. And men have higher rates of neet and unemployment which means the men working are having to earn more to bring the average up, so a man who is working and a woman who is working means the man is probably earning more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 07:01 PM
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In collage, yeah no shit most kids don't have money. Try putting that on your dating profile when you're 25+ (unless you're hot of course then it don't matter.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:48 PM
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Eh, not really. Forbes shows the adjusted wage gap based on occupation is 99-100, While true that isn't what is being spoken about. That is when you look at same job, experience etc etc. Men work more hours, chase higher paying jobs etc that is why men earn more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:38 PM
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That statistic is massively caused by one demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:17 PM
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That statistic is massively caused by one demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:22 PM
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It's a group of beliefs and a way of seeing the world that leads to a specific model of relationships. No. It is a praxeology. It can lead you in all sorts of directions dependant on what you want. Trads want the trad style you mention. Those who want to spin plates spin plates. Those that look at it and go "to much work for little pay off" go MGTOW It doesn't box you in to anything but allows you to make the best decision for you and your circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:02 PM
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That isn't RP it's tradpill. Y'all need to learn what TRP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:22 AM
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God you guys are thick. The irony here. Go reread his comment and try and use some of them braincells.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 01:34 PM
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Then you don't know how uber works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:07 PM
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The guy isn't there to save the girl just to get the guy out of HIS car. I don't know where you live but you can't just hijack an uber you have to be the one who ordered it. So yea, sit back don't get involved and the guy will fuck off eventually and then the girl can get her uber and go home. This woman sticking her nose in to a situation it doesn't need to be in is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:00 AM
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That post shows how stupid people are. There was no reason to try and get the guy out the uber. Just stand back and let the driver deal with his drunk ass (not his uber after all) and wait with the woman until its dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:40 AM
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Yes seriously. Disagreeing with someone isn't throwing a tantrum or getting upset. Appeal to Tradition, and irrelevant to my point Not irrelevant, it is a powerful tool used through the ages so yes it will change peoples minds and help them with their goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 11:20 PM
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You are throwing a tantrum. No I'm not, pointing out men prefer thin women and that women who struggle to find someone because of their weight is not throwing a tantrum. Women are not missing out by not dating or fucking men who simply don't like her cause she's not skinny. Thays absurd. Except all the women who do moan about not being able to have the men they want because those men don't want a fat woman. We already see that men have preferences for all types of women. So miss me with that BS.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 11:18 PM
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My point is many of yall are entirely selfish and greedy Just like women. If women said, "oh there's not enough rich men. Yall can change your income. If you want us to date you, and fuck you starting working harder and longer because finding a good man who makes good money is hard. Yall would be mad as hell Women do say that, it's why it's part of TRP. What makes dating harder for some men is their attitude and entitlement. Rich coming from a woman. You want women to look skinny just so more of…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:21 PM
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Who's upset? Throwing social shame about has been a thing forever. No one is throwing tantrums.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:57 PM
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But fat shaming women so that there are more women who physically appeal to a man's gaze isn't the way to go about improving a man's numbers. How does getting people to change so they match your requirements not lead to more raw numbers? What you said is completely based on a scarcity mindset. Yes, most men have this because for most men they are not drowning in options. I think men collectively know a majority of them desire smaller women, but there isn't enough to go around so that scares some…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:54 PM
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Babies don't know what they are doing, they will smack you in the face with a rattle and laugh. Female meerkats force their kids across a road to see if its safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:02 PM
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Right. So if it's a choice to be overweight, abd men are not attracted to overweight women, I don't understand why pay mind to those women if they have a lifestyle and body type you don't agree with when it comes to dating and mate selection. Because dating for men is hard and if you remove a whole bunch of possible women from the dating pool for something they can control it makes it even harder. For men dating is a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:45 PM
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You didn't name MY standards. I don't use insta or even look at it. I didn't name any celebs and Margot clearly falls into the attractive category. I don't know if you are arguing against someone else but you aren't arguing against me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:36 AM
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You realize that ig models are less than 5% of the population right? Yes, and? I'm not talking about them. If I look at my friend group they are all except 1 in a relationship with women who are good looking or ugly. And you also realize most women are not the blonde, double d, small waist models you look at in porn or on instagram? If that is your standard for good looking then you need to look at your own standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:40 PM
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There are 3 types of women. 1, the good looking ones. 2, the ugly ones 3, the meh ones (your plain janes) Most women fall into cat 1 or 2 and 3 are the minority. They are the minority because our society seems to be split mostly between the women who look after themselves and make an effort and the ones who don't want to conform or try leaving only a small % of women who are just meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:27 PM
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In your world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 03:03 PM
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I was referring to that post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:47 PM
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My point is that average is not defined as plain jane it is dependant on the population you are looking at.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:45 PM
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This is what I’ve seen all around me, but I live in EE. And that’s probably part of the reason why I feel so strongly about this. So none of what you wrote applies to the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:22 PM
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Average is a measured metric. If the vast majority of a population are thin and pretty then the average will be thin and pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:14 PM
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That's not what average is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:50 AM
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If you wont engage with those you disagree with they will never change. Just like in anything, like politics where the red and blue throw shit at each other, no dialogue is used and things just keep getting worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:29 PM
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They might not but you don't know if you don't try. standing up for what you believe and to educate others should be what everyone does.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:48 PM
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Then say something intelligent. Throwing your dummy out because people say things you don't like don't go away just because you ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:46 PM
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"Racists can just not be racist" Pure stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:36 PM
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The stupidity in here is astounding. If you can't discuss these things with people how are you going to change their view?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:04 PM
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The stupidity in here is astounding. If you can't discuss these things with people how are you going to change their view?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:04 PM
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I’m not open minded to such low IQ dehumanization of others And that is why all of the arguments get nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:38 PM
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The name at the top doesn't mean much nowadays. How did you find something so stupid funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:27 PM
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I don't know who wrote that but they are idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:47 PM
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So I had to google that. Not sure hat your beef is but it doesn't appear to have anything to do with this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:43 PM
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You're a woman, what earth have you to rant about that would get you banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:27 PM
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I am saying that women can stop it (same as men can) but choose not to. This means women can stop it but don't. This isn't gendered but you said it isn't women's problem when it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:43 PM
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Honestly we are going round in circles and this is pointless, you have your view I have mine let's mileage it here as apparently you will go round in circles all night as you can't grasp or admit women where the ones impacted by gender bias, but you do you. I admitted earlier women were impacted by gender bias. What you are not understanding is what rights are and how they are set because rights are not inherent you are at the mercy of whatever country you live in and your rights can and do chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:40 PM
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So, for the last time, are they a thing women didn't get till after men, or do they not exist as you go round in circles to suit your narrative. Do you understand how rights are set out? Men did not have a "right" to a bank account (banks could and did stop some men from having them for any reason the bank wanted to give) Married women needed their husband permission due to the laws that made men responsible for the wives debts. Single and divorced women could have an account if they went to a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:00 PM
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As it is all to do with the wishes of the parents as babies can't consent or make choices it is to do with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:54 PM
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Yes, both genders suffer from the "men are disposable" problem. Still doesn't mean women have no part in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:32 PM
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People do (men and women) but as not enough people are against it it doesn't get the traction needed. It is another example of male disposability.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:23 PM
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And this is only boys, aka males that go through it, so by default, it's their issue, No. Woman also went through FGM and that was made illegal but they wouldn't fight to have it banned against boys. It is something that happens to babies who don't get a say (omen get a say if they have sex) Sure men should be also fighting to stop it but women has more say (more single mothers than single fathers) but they don't want to stop it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:17 PM
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Oh, so human rights are a thing that exist like I said, cool shame women didn't get them early. Rights only exist in what the law says they do they are not inherent. Correct, the ATM was introduced prior to the law stopping women from getting bank accounts as stated. I'm so glad we are agreeing. There never was a law stopping women from having bank accounts. This has nothing to do with the discussion over how many people did or didn't have bank accounts. Oh so you don't believe in free speech od…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:14 PM
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Because it is something only women have to go through, this is why more responsibility gets placed on women for it. Cutting your baby boys dick up is 100% on the parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:03 PM
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It also it takes both parents' consent, So she has the power to not consent and not have it done, but the truth is that lots of women in the US love a cut dick so they are happy to do it to their sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:52 PM
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If you don't have human rights, the government would do worse than say stuff. Come on now. This is balanced by the democratic system in place that means they hunt for voters, it's why they have got away with the abortion issue in the US, because they had the votes. Why were ATMs introduced if no one had a bank account? I didn't say no one, but there were lots. The first atm was in 1967 in london. Most people got their wages in little brown envelopes with cash (I'm old enough to remember that) so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:50 PM
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No it didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:36 PM
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If there's no such thing as human rights, then being told the bar is so low is the least of men's issues, lol. Explain that further. Correct about the law, but only women who denied accounts are the whole impact thing. It was harder but not impossible for women to get accounts (and unlike today they weren't really needed as people didn't have the money anyway, lots of men didn't have them either) This might come as a shock, but people can think things you don't agree with the world does not revo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:32 PM
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Women can prevent it, they all have mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:28 PM
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An actual example of inequality. It is against the law to perform FGM but not MGM.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:16 PM
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infringement of human rights No such thing as human rights. Rights are given by governments to their population and can be changed. Grand so women did not have equal access to banks, glad we agreed, until after 1975. But it wasn't a right for either gender before that, it was up to the individual bank to decide who it would deal with. Why can't women hold that idea, why do they have to hold an idea that suits OP? Because it is clearly not true, holding an idea that isn't true is delusional (like…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:13 PM
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So why are there posts about women not being in relationships, or the 4B movement not being OK, etc. What are you on about? hat does this have to do with the conversation? If you need a law to stop it, it's happening. Otherwise, the law would not exist. Murder wasn't made a crime until the 1750s, but it still happened. Yes, no one is denying that women were discriminated against by banks, but there was no law that stated "women are not allowed a bank account" OP doesn't want women being able to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:08 PM
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Death happens when abortions are refused is also pretty unreverisable. If only we had some way to freeze sperm reliably first or something. Not having sex is a sure fire way to stop unwanted pregnancy and is equally available to both men and women. In the UK, women could not hold a bank in their own name until 1975, which was the year The Sex Discrimination Act passed that prevented this. That law stopped any bank from denying an account on the basis of them being a woman, there was no law that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:55 PM
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It has the same outcome but better. With a vasectomy. Prevention at the source. That stops them from having kids at all (no most cant be reversed) Women could not hold an account without a male co-signer this could not hold an account on their own. Are you OK? Yes they could, they had to find a bank that allowed it (this is not a law just bank preference) my mother had an account, owned her own house and wasn't married in 1964. Inequality in rights is when people are not given equal opportunitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:45 PM
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Would enforced vasectomies not stop pregnancies? (Obviously, I don't think this should happen) That is not equivalent. As stated, those were all 40 years ago, yes, that is not the 60 years ago you stated. This demonstrates that we often forget our own Mother's couldn't hold a bank account without their husbands. There has never been a law that states "women are not allowed a bank account" https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/socialbusinesshub/2021/11/15/why-we-should-still-be-concerned-about-gender-inequalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:31 PM
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Please tell me which medical procedure for men is regulated and refused after a time period? Nothing to do with equality as men do not have an equivalent. Also, Google, when women could hold a bank account or get credit, these were all 40 years ago. No law against women having a bank account etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:15 PM
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But that's not what I'm saying. Then you are saying it wrong. Men do not operate in the "I'll just float along and make random friends and see what happens" they are more focused on things. If a man is looking for a relationship he is looking for women to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:12 PM
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Starting out as platonic friends is a good strategy for a romantic relationship Your whole starting point is to try and get into someone's pants. You even give an example So guys, next time you see a drop dead gorgeous woman try to be just friends instead of going immediately for the relationship. You will set yourself apart from the other guys immediately going in for the kill This translates to "I want to date her but I will try and be friends first and see if that works" You have to just try …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:18 PM
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DISCLAIMER: when I say friends, I'm talking about REAL FRIENDS. Not I'm-pretending-to-be-friends to get in her pants But if you are starting form the point you suggest then you are only trying to be friends to get in her pants. Nothing wrong starting from a platonic point but you need a large friend group who interact with other friend groups to maximize your chances of meeting someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:53 PM
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I wasn't exaggerating, I was using simple numbers to demonstrate the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:01 PM
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I wasn't exaggerating, I was using simple numbers to demonstrate the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:01 PM
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Women know all this stuff. The ones who don’t do it still know it would greatly broaden their appeal they just don’t do it for various reasons. Some men seem to think they shouldn’t make themselves appealing and women should be wooed by their personality or some Disney shit. And them women still expect to get a man who has put all the work in. This is the inherent problem in dating, both these men and women who haven't put the work in are in the same league and should date each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:35 PM
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just because more men remarry doesn't mean they have it easy. 1 man remarrying out of 100 is more than 0 out of 100 women remarrying. But if the other 99 of men want to get remarried while the 100 women don't then it is harder for men to remarry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:17 PM
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That has no relation to what he was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:47 AM
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Because of what counts as homeless. People in emergency or temporary housing are still classed as homeless. As people with kids (far more single moms) are prioritized for emergency homes you end up with more women classed as homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:22 AM
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Women’s preferences for height in a partner and wanting them to be tall goes back centuries. This isn’t new. Ok lets take that at face value and expand on it. The average height of humans as increased over the years. So if women found men attractive 100+ years ago who were 5'7" why do they not find them generally attractive today? could it be because what women find attractive is based off of conditions that pit men against each other and so women want the above averages? What this is describing…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:06 AM
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not risk-averse, This could be bad as it will include things like driving like a nutter or gambling. forgot about emotionally guarded but that is not always negative, it's fine to be cautious as to when and where to let your guard down. Considering how many women bang on about wanting an emotionally available man (and how many men realize that is not the way to go) it can go either way. "bad" traits have to be bad like violence, possessiveness, etc, read my other comment No they don't. "bad" is …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:37 PM
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They aren't all good traits. "Self-centered" = selfish "Emotionally guarded" - not willing to be vulnerable These traits also usually come with a side of asshole behaviour, things like throwing their dummy out when they don't get their way or being arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:30 PM
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You really don't understand any of this. YOU DO NOT HAVE FULL BODY AUTONOMY. The law is not clear, that is why there is such an argument over abortion. Ethics isn't clear as no matter what you think it is a life inside. In your example it is the racist part (the true reason) that is equivalent to not wanting to be a parent, are you stupid? how do you not understand how them 2 things are the same part of an analogy??? A woman who is legit afraid of pregnancy and a woman that wants to abort becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:18 PM
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The second reason is enough. It doesn't matter what the main reason is, or the true reason is. Of course the main reason is important, you can make any excuse you want but at the heart of the issue is first and foremost "I don't want a kid" and that is why it isn't a body autonomy issue. Take you racist analogy, the racist reason is equivalent to the not wanting to be a parent, and that is the important part when discussing why someone doesn't want to date someone of another race. The reasons ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:10 PM
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Wrong. Most abortions are for financial/not ready to be a parent. Yes they prefer not to have to go through with the whole process, doesn't change the reasoning behind it and it still doesn't make it a body autonomy issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:03 PM
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You do not have body autonomy as you cannot do anything you want with it, you only have partial.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:01 PM
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It’s funny how more actually means less in your world what on earth does that mean? You guys can keep telling yourselves that things are fair. It is fair, just because you don't understand the statistics doesn't mean it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:31 AM
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No, that is just not wanting to through the experience when there is no need. It's a red herring as you and me don't have full body autonomy, for example you cannot sell your organs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:17 AM
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omg how do you not understand this point. If a man does 10 hrs more paid work than the woman and the woman does 10 hrs of unpaid work more than the man, then the 5hrs of "extra" leisure time are being spent by the woman on other things that don't fall into either of them things. Women are the ones who want men to earn money to give her the life she wants. Men do their fair share.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:15 AM
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If the time is exchanged then it is equal. So where does the extra 5 hours of leisure time come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:32 PM
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And help themselves to about 5 more hours of leisure time per week because of it If the chores are done and the bills are paid what are women wasting their 5 hours on? And if your contributions are primarily financial, you can be easily replaced by a check Women pick men who earn more, doesn't change the fact men do their fair share.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:23 PM
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Abortion is not about parenthood, but bodily autonomy Red herring. Most abortions are performed for women wanting to opt out of being a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:31 PM
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Another "problem" solved by tech.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:22 PM
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Yeah the tech we have now has made it all a lot easier. I can do a full days work for my grandma in the 90 minutes after I get home from work. Where are other women finding all this extra “work”? Either they overdo the work that needs doing (common) or they overestimate how much work they actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:06 PM
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In mine it's the sub 25's
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:57 PM
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Yep, and she thinks I'm trying to gaslight her lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:46 PM
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Not gaslighting you. Go check the American time use survey, men do about 25min more a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:45 PM
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Men do do more. Men do a lot more than men 50 years ago and now do slightly more contribution to the household than the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:39 PM
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That's an artificial system. We are talking about nature and our comparison with chimps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:53 PM
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I'm talking about consensual sex. If you consider raping someone to be successful that says a great deal. success is determined by your ability to reproduce in a naturalistic sense. Our modern ethical mating systems are not natural to humans. The majority of rapists in war are also ordinary people who do terrible things, most of the Russians and Germans and Americans who did this in and after WW2 had normal lives. Which is more horrifying than them being wholly monsters really a demonstration of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:32 PM
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Being a good fighter and/or socially dominant has virtually no correlation with sexual success Except of all that pesky rapey behaviour of the fighters of winning armies throughout human history including today.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:19 PM
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I don't know, just this user was adamant that it was a hook up app.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:01 PM
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Just like any of the other dating apps. There are people looking for all sorts from hooking up to finding a life long partner and anything in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:44 PM
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Just like any of the other dating apps. There are people looking for all sorts from hooking up to finding a life long partner and anything in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:44 PM
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True. Someone didn't believe me when I said that in the UK tinder isn't just some hook up app.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:29 PM
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I don't see any evidence to the contrary. The last one is true, it's true in lots of animals especially mammals. I suggest watching the documentary I linked, it shows how when one of the females came on heat it is what started the leadership challenge on the alpha, how he formed an alliance with an older old alpha, nearly died but came back and had a baby with the female.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:26 PM
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Chimps are more like us than bonobos. Conflict resolution - both use violence. Group dynamics - both form friendships and allies and are sociable creatures, both form hierarchies. Sexuality - Males fight over leadership of the troupe and the one in charge gets to fuck the female that has come on heat, only difference here is that human females have hidden ovulation and they will have sex with different men as she see's fit to form bonds like bonobos.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:05 PM
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LOL No argument so try and insult instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:27 AM
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No, even just sex the top men dominate that. The power women have over other men is only there because it was given to them to generate a better society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:06 AM
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Women aren't though. The top men are the dominant ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:51 AM
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A study was done that used the term alpha and was wrong. The term itself was used before that. Humans are a mixture between chimps and bonobos (not surprizing as we share a common ancestor)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:46 AM
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Because mate pressures cause men to compete (women don't need too use resources to compete) The more resources you have the greater the chance of finding a mate because women are looking for better than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:41 AM
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One original Red Piller stated women by default are generally red pill. They just don’t admit it They are more excepting when the language used is more flattering, they really just don't like the blunt language used by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:00 AM
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The problem is that lots of women do think that (and lots of men think like the other example given)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:56 PM
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Alphas exist in chimps and if you want to argue that go do it with David Attenborough https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasties_(2018_TV_series) Episode 1
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:52 PM
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Most men out earn their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:37 PM
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The vast majority of women marry men better than them. They marry men who earn more and have a higher social standing. This is basic hypergamy, social classes like working/middle/higher are constructs concocted to have the plebs fight amongst themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:47 PM
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Underlying sexual strategies are seen across cultures. Women for instance are hypergamous. Men are opportunistic. Gender roles didn't appear due to society but society was built the way it was because of the natural differences between males and females.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:38 PM
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Maybe you don't (I don't know you) but most men do its how evolution shaped humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:28 PM
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The vast majority of women run on the same software.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:13 PM
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Except you don't. TRP is information, what you do with it is up to you, you can chase sluts or try and find a virgin or just date around, it isn't prescriptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:10 PM
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No, I see you are also someone who doesn't know what that fallacy is. TRP is information. It doesn't tell you to chase sluts or marry virgins, just how women behave and there mating strategies for you to know how to deal with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:08 PM
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Define promiscuous, because I see it as having sex without proper commitment and most women have sex outside of marriage and have it early on in any relationship. Sluts are very promiscuous but normal women are to a degree too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 07:30 PM
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I see you're another that doesn't know what TRP is so all you have to say is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 07:24 PM
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Why do people keep bringing up the wolves? Alphas are seen in other animals including our closest relatives chimps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 07:11 PM
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You realise other people view these threads yeah?? Including women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 10:36 PM
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She is supposed to come to realize the problem by introspecting about her dating practices, Which women frequently fail to do, it's one of the biggest gripes of men that women fail to understand some basic things about how dating works. This is completely brain dead. The conclusion that everyone else is coming to is that it means the woman is at fault and need to be responsible for choosing who she is dating. Ah yes all them people who are men who know the problem already. If you cannot understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:57 PM
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They are distinct categories with different reasonings behind them that are important distinctions for women to understand. They are important as women really don't seem to get the problem that they themselves are creating. Women reading what you wrote will read it as its a problem caused by them picking men with a fault (the fault being they don't want a relationship) instead of the fault being with the women (picking men out of her league)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:08 PM
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You shouldn't be writing from the POV of anyone. The conversation is about why women have trouble dating and so you should write from the general view.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:40 PM
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Saying. "these men are not looking for LTR" And "These men are not looking for an LTR with these women" Are 2 different things. The difference is, one is finding non committed men and the other is shooting out her league.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:02 PM
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The end result is the same - “they are somehow selecting for men (PLURAL) that don’t want long term relationships” - and within this category are men outside of their SMV or a man that comes with a lot of pre-commitment sexual risk Not really. The way you wrote it, it comes across as these men don't want an LTR at all, but if they are chasing men outside their SMV then it would mean these men are maybe looking for an LTR but just not with these women. There is a subtle distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:22 AM
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You might see him as a loser but he is winning form his perspective, and that's what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:50 PM
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There is an alfa chimp in the troop. It doesn't apply to all creatures but it certainly exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:49 PM
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Lots of them in the tech world earning good money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:47 PM
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Single motherhood and criminality is really only a problem in the lower socioeconomic class, so I am not sure why people focus on this like it is rampant across all demographics. Because they make up the biggest demographic. If your biggest demographic is the biggest contributor to your birth rate and they are producing the worst outcomes then society as a whole is going to suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:56 AM
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Female mammals have always chosen who will procreate. No they haven't. In lots of species the males fight and the winner gets to breed with all the females.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:48 AM
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I don't see any PPD women complaining that they can't get LTR with Chad though. they might not talk about it on here (they don't want to give men any ammunition) but the women on here have a big overlap with places like FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:34 PM
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We have had our right wing in power for 14 years until starmer, they put them up in nice hotels (who then get to charge the tax payer for the renovation afterwards)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:21 PM
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tbf if you mention "CIS" it gets flagged.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:19 PM
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which is that oftentimes men will be vague about what they actually want, which is why the advice they receive from women about how to get women seems off to them. Their advice doesn't work for either finding casual sex or a relationship, so what the man wants is irrelevant as it doesn't work either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:08 PM
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The second chart? the one that shows how it was steadily rising over that decade? that one? and then somehow it drops back down when they change the way they do it. yeah not buying it, especially when my friends now have kids in that age range and the men are not doing well compared to the women. I think what you are referring to is the inflation rate which stabilized last year while unemployment went down AND wages went up. No, I'm talking about the general state of the economy, wages have been…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:09 PM
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You can try and brush off the data but what no one’s been able to do? Show any current data that contradicts it. Because we need more years and more data to analyse it, one year where the data swings when they change of the data is collected is not a good way to do science. The economy actually isn’t shit (in the US at least) And again: 13.1 percent of guys. Like don’t you notice how about 85 percent of dudes under are pulling in the data I showed and your stat of 13.1 percent could drop right i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:41 PM
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Under 25 year old men are getting laid at like an over 80 percent clip. That is shitty data. Not only did they change how the data was formed but they had 229 respondents and this magically made the rate drop. Add to this that getting laid once in a 12 moth period is not the sex life men want. And while getting laid is a part of the reason young boys work hard to become young men: it’s isn’t the only reason. Having your own money to buy your own things, live in your own place, and taking ownersh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:21 PM
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What about men with 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:49 PM
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I’m not sure who lied to young men and told them finding the ONE person they want to share their life with would be an easy task without any struggle, but come on man: what great thing that’s worth it doesn’t require a challenge and work?! No one here said about finding the one, we are talking about the sub 25yo men who are far more likely to be just looking for sex not looking for the love of their life. It's this drive that sets men on the path of improving themselves to be able to attract wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:33 PM
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If they don’t have a choice they are already the minority of those who perpetually struggle. We already have those. It’s a niche. Most men struggle, just because they find someone eventually doesn't mean they didn't struggle, now give them an easy option that satisfies their needs enough that it makes them not bother to put the effort in to be attractive and you get a larger portion of the population who just exist in this situation. Re read what you wrote “they go for the whole experience”. Yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:36 PM
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I think most people when given the choice between real or ai will go with real. If they have a choice, lots don't and lots don't like their available choices. After all, how man people go to concerts to see their favorite groups live even tho they know it’s not going to sound as good as the studio recordings? They go for the whole experience not just to listen to "good" sound. Still doesn't change the simple facts that humans will pick the least resistance. I'll go a step further and say women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:43 PM
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My question was simply: in a culture that doesn’t demonize it, how much different are they than let’s say the US? Is it culturally that different? Or is it how most the people there say: it’s a niche and doesn’t make a difference You can't say if it does or doesn't because there is a lot more stuff going on than the sex work in their culture. The two types you described: we have those types now. Will it make a big difference that they are AIing it instead of escort/onlyfans/fleshlighting? But it…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:18 PM
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That other poster wasn't on about how it effects dating but your claim about how many men use a service in a society that doesn't demonize it. Back to your op. Your concert/sport event analogy is a good example why it will take off. These events are expensive and hard to get into, and the vast majority of fans don't get to experience the real thing so settle for the substitution of virtual experience. If these robots come to be then plenty of men will take them up. You have 2 types of men who wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:05 PM
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Like they said, it is in countries it is normal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascha_(brothel)#:~:text=The%20Pascha%2C%20one%20of%20the,to%201%2C000%20customers%20per%20day.#:~:text=The%20Pascha%2C%20one%20of%20the,to%201%2C000%20customers%20per%20day) Germany has lots.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:48 AM
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I wonder if there’s an underlying reason behind this trend beyond the obvious motive of easy rage-bait. Or, do you believe the reactions to these videos are justified? Are the criticisms directed at the women fair? Do you understand these people have expectations on how women should behave? Women who don't behave how they think women should will be criticized. That first vid has no context about being mormon, just shows a bunch of women who have used pregnancy tests and then randomly pulling the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:02 AM
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Is this actually an issue for people? And if so, what's the issue? That she has an ex or that he's huge? I'm guessing she is trying to play on the insecurities some men have over a woman having an "alpha" ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:10 PM
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I knew you would say that. Abortion laws are not about equality (they can't be as men have no equivalent) The vast majority of abortions are wanted by women due to them not wanting a baby due to financial/being ready (choosing to be a parent). Removing them doesn't set women back against men and in fact moves them in line with men's ability to to choose if they are a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:52 PM
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What rights are being removed from women in the west?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:37 PM
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Without what? feminism? Nothing, the west rolls on as it has done, if all feminists disappeared/stopped advocating we would continue as we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:07 PM
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Not anymore. It's about getting power. There is not a right I have that the woman next door doesn't have, so in the west feminism isn't needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:02 PM
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And it isn't limited to the UK or Italy. Go look at tables 5 and 6 and see it happens all over. Now if feminism was about equality it would want to bring boys up to women's level, but they don't they still want to bang on about a long debunked wage gap and how more women should be in power.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:58 PM
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You do realise you have made yourself look stupid. My 3rd link you refuse to look at is in fact the data link from my second link which shows you didn't read it properly. But like so many feminists you aren't interested in reading the data and working towards equality you just want to shit on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:53 PM
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Typical feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:27 PM
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Yes I made a mistake picking out a link from a quick google search, sue me. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/985236/6781_TA_exam_LitRev_FINAL.pdf Look through that. In England it found there was bias Page 7 is about "Evidence from national curriculum in england" And it says after the tables "What can we conclude from Tables 2-4? On gender, divergence in favour of girls or against boys was the more common finding," Table 5 shows findi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:18 PM
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Not the bit I quoted. Page 7 is about "Evidence from national curriculum in england" And it says after the tables "What can we conclude from Tables 2-4? On gender, divergence in favour of girls or against boys was the more common finding,"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:58 PM
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What you quoted is just an ass covering statement. Feminists would have loved to produce a report that it was all bollocks but they can't because it isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:48 PM
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The very next paragraph "With respect to teacher assessment, evidence of teacher bias in relation to gender is mixed, but a slight bias in favour of girls (or against boys) is a common finding." what your bit is talking about is teacher prediction and test results. The bias comes in when we are talking about teacher predictions and course work. Tests are graded independently and coursework is graded by the teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:45 PM
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You really trying to find anything to discredit this idea aren't you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:40 PM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/teacher-assessments-bias-boys-ofqual-b1849704.html It has been studied quite a bit in different countries and all find similar results.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:28 PM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/teacher-assessments-bias-boys-ofqual-b1849704.html
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:26 PM
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Happens in the UK too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:09 PM
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Happens in the UK too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:08 PM
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I haven't got a problem with them having it but it doesn't matter in the end either way it just changes how to play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:52 PM
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You're a feminist. I know it can have loaded meanings depending on the type but it doesn't change what you are. You can want what you want but there is always consequences for actions. The modern times have created more competition in dating with clear winners and losers. Men will find ways to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:45 PM
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You don't believe in women having equal rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:25 PM
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Why do you keep going on about jan6? This wont come about via force but voting in bad people. Do you think the Germans wanted what Hitler brought? No, he promised prosperity and brought chaos. Not all these types are internet heavy users, you can see there types on any platform though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:23 PM
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They have been growing that is why the authorities have started keeping an eye on them. they have moved away from mainstream social media (as they have been generally been banned from it) and are on their own sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:07 PM
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They have been, it's about numbers, these type of men will keep growing in number just like they have over the last 14 years. It wont be one of these men that get power but a politician who will appeal to these types to get them to vote for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:55 PM
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It isn't about "rioting" but the laws they will enact.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:39 PM
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You think 14 years is a long time? it might take another 20 years (doubt it if trump wins this time) but if things continue the way they are going it will happen at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:28 PM
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"You're not intelligent because you didn't read my mind when I used language that most people consider to be insulting." You didn't need to read my mind just understand the words written. I love the west and I don't want it to be in trouble. I bet you do, as it allows stupid people to not only to survive but thrive. Guys like you share the blame for the decline of the west because the red pillers act and speak like neanderthals and then wonder why woke feminists are horrified and doubling down o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:17 PM
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You think this is gonna happen in a day or a year? They don't need to go out and riot, they will be the ones voting for nutters like trump and so get to "own" the women by having people like trump remove rights from women. The more this goes on the more men will lean this way and at some point you tilt things too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:13 PM
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Bruh if dudes require an OUTRAISE force to get a girls then those guys are a lost cause. Doesn't matter if they are a lost cause if they can fuck things up for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:06 PM
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No it doesn't. The fact that women face more risks around pregnancy has no relevance to what the man is up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:00 PM
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The conversation is about the woman facing risks. So what the man is up to has nothing to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:31 PM
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"You need to moderate your language for stupid people" This is why the west is in trouble, making everything run to the lowest common denomination. It only seemed "callous" and "insulting" because you weren't intelligent enough to understand what is being spoken about (like a lot of people on here) and so took it the wrong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:46 PM
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Prove what?? You think what the man is up to has any impact on whether the woman is facing any risks?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:42 PM
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What the man is or isn't up to is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:57 PM
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Giving birth has risks, she has risks either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:54 PM
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Just because you (and others on here) don't understand context and what words means is not my fault. Context- The OP is about submissiveness (and as such means the other party being in charge). You talked about women wanting to be equal in a partnership and then I pointed out women pick men who are above them. "Better" has synonyms such as, superior, fitter, more suitable and more valuable to name a few. So with the context being about who would be in the dominant position of the relationship (t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:51 PM
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We are talking about the values needed to be in the leadership role of the relationship. The one who is more intelligent, earns more and has a higher social status is the one who is going to be the dominant one as they have more valuable characteristics for leading the relationship. Women choose men with higher stats so they are going to be leading the relationship. This has nothing to do with your value as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:52 PM
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What's that got to do with the price of tea in china? You said they settle down 2-3 years after their education and yet the average age of marriage is 32 a near decade after collage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:49 PM
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A man isn't better than a woman because he's smarter than her or has more money than her or has more social status than her or is a better leader than her, etc It literally does in terms of a relationship, if he has all higher stats then he is more valuable and therefore better. So a woman picking a man of higher value is by default under him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:04 PM
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And yet most women pick men that are better than them. You can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:13 PM
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Men most certainly notice unattractive women, we see all women as we rate them as we go. This is why our frame of reference is better than women's. The men who are not up to standard (most men) are just an NPC to be ignored by women, while men will debate whether a woman is at least fuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:31 AM
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The average first time marriage age for men in the US is 32.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:20 AM
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It's because you as a woman don't know what an average man looks like. You think these men are unattractive but they will be average at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:42 AM
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An American slang term for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:06 AM
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Oh dear. Talk about red pill propaganda! First thing out of your mouth isn’t true at all. That line of thinking only serves men who want to claim ALL women aren’t hard-working or deserving of their income. I’m not saying ALL women are perfect hard-working angels that deserve it but your line of thinking is extremely negative about women. No wonder all you have to say is “women bad”. My first line is 100% true (men would prefer a cushy well paid white collar job too) and feminists always bring up…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:58 PM
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Women want high paying cushy office jobs (this is why its always talk of CEO's) Women can't do a lot of them because of biology, women can't regulate their body temp like men can and they don't have the strength and stamina of men (lots and lots of these jobs don't use any tech and still rely on physical man power) Rape and SA in work place is incredibly rare (teaching was male dominated and women took over that, there are more female lawyers now and that was also male dominated) and rude jokes …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:32 PM
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Typical feminist propaganda. Women do not want to do the hard dirty jobs. Women physically can't do a lot of these jobs either. What women see as "Bullying" is just normal male banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:01 PM
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Feminists often use the box analogy when talking about equality, but only in the things they deem they deserve (CEO positions) and never things they don't want (Welders).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:18 PM
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I ain't stalking you. If you want a stalker go right ahead but lets hope you don't end up as a news headline.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:03 AM
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What the actual fuck did I just read!! You first agree papa was a stalker and then say your mom raised you to have her standards? Standards that include putting up with a stalker who will pester you until you say yes, very healthy. You say you are more humble than your mom but the paragraph before and the following sentence go on about how magnificent you are!! You aren't the whole package, you sound like a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:45 AM
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The duality of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:17 AM
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Papa sounds like he would have been arrested as a stalker.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:16 AM
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Evolution doesn't care about anything but reproduction. Evolution will still have meant men would have got the same coping ability women did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:52 PM
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Cite for what? You are replying in the wrong conversation. FYI my OP was "Because they would have evolved to do it just like women have." This conversation was about how evolution would have made men capable of dealing with pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:45 PM
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Oh so your just another troll gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:22 PM
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If you read this can you reply with "I got it"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:33 PM
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Are you replying to the wrong conversation? What has any of this to do with if men got pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:20 PM
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What has that got to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:36 PM
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It's funny to post random irrelevant things? Whatever floats your boat but don't be surprised you get pulled up on your shit posting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:15 PM
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Then don't participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:13 PM
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Then there wouldn't be men and women just humans and we would all be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:09 PM
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Well that was the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:09 PM
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So how are lots of women unknowingly paying for kids that aren't theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:58 PM
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What's all that got to do with "men getting pregnant"? Women would be the same as men now if they were put in to the same position. All that would happen is men would be women and women would be men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:57 PM
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Do lots of babies get swapped at birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:51 PM
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Because they would have evolved to do it just like women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:42 PM
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ThoughI can see a stigma around the use of sex robots.. There has to be a better term the marketing research departments will come up with. You make them as maids first. People will accept a maid robot that cleans for you then you add the sex upgrade to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:26 AM
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"Anything that makes feminists look bad is rage bait" LMAO you lot crack me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:35 PM
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Didn't say you did, but a hell of a lot of feminists have an issue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:25 PM
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Personally? Yeah the world isn’t going to mourn the lack of an abuser. Hell of a lot of women would fall into that category. Legally? No you would need a legal standard of how much danger justifies self-defense. So back to your very first comment, yes there can be abuse with no danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:37 PM
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Hitting someone can be morally and legally wrong Correct. without it being the product of an abusive relationship. It's still abuse and an abusive act. You only have to commit one act of abuse to be charged with domestic violence. You do not need prolonged time line for it to count as domestic abuse. Now answer my other scenario. And to take this back to the original point, if the abuse (lets use your definition of prolonged time line) is verbal, is someone justified in killing the abuser?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:28 PM
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Try writing that again it makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:17 PM
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You have made up a definition. The definition of abuse when applied to people is exactly what I said. I'll show you why you are wrong. If we take your definition then there has to be some amount of abuse that doesn't count as domestic abuse. Where is that line? Can I abuse my partner once a year? 3 times? once a month? And to take this back to the original point, if the abuse (lets use your definition of prolonged time line) is verbal, is someone justified in killing the abuser?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:05 PM
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Yes it can, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:52 PM
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That is the definition of abuse. You can't make your own definition up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:39 PM
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Abuse is when one person uses manipulation and intimidation/threats/violence to control another person over a period of time. No it isn't. Abuse is to treat someone or something with cruelty or violence. If I walked up to you and called you every name under the sun in an aggressive manner and walked off I would have been abusive to you. If I did that to my partner would they be justified to kill me?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:16 PM
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What don't you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:33 PM
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Sure there are some men who aren't bothered about marriage but I think most men are hence why there is over 2m marriages a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:29 PM
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Don't know I haven't seen her for ages. I think the last bit is only for high value men, for the vast majority of normal men they have to convince women to date them and marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:06 PM
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Mate, your language screams it. No it doesn't. You are projecting your deep feelings about abortion (likely through your own experience) and putting it onto my words. Also the fact you won't learn anything about it suggests you don't want to know whether this is true, false, good or bad etc I don't need to know (as a man who isn't going to go through it) what the exact procedure is for an abortion, my knowledge of IF its before X weeks you can take a pill and after you will need an operation to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:51 AM
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There might be some. But you do get I was being hyperbolic and you can sub that for any short time (say 3 months) when a man could very well know he wants to marry the woman he is with but she would still need more time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:43 AM
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or me begging would be her saying no and me having to convince her. It is the end of the convincing phase. If you asked her after your first date she would have said no. So you spent the time between the first date and you proposing convincing her. Begging is probably to strong a word for this but it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:18 AM
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I never said it was a bad thing to recognise you can't look after a kid, you're making shit up. I'm not proud of ignorance because you do not need to know how an abortion is formed to know whether X is Y. Now you're just trolling, no one needs to know how bread is made to make a personal judgment whether they find the loaf good or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:01 AM
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You don't need to know how the bread is made to know whether the loaf is good or not. Having a child is far more responsibility than having a medical procedure, this is why people have abortions, the top 2 reasons for abortions are "financial" and "not ready". The list of responsibility is far to long to list out for having to raise a child but you know that. Baby = lots of responsibility, Abortion = removal of baby. That means that abortion is a way of removing responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:40 AM
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Yes, because we are not discussing the "mechanics" of pregnancy and abortion. Do you not understand what we are talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:12 AM
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My education or level of knowledge on it does not matter. We are not discussing the intricacy of how abortions are done but whether having one constitutes avoiding a responsibility. The fact is they are used to avoid the responsibility of having to have and raise a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:50 AM
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I know enough (women on here have described their experiences) It still isn't relevant as to whether it is an escape route or not. Do you understand how the process goes? Have sex, get pregnant, have baby. The having baby part is the consequence of the action of having sex so getting an abortion is removing the consequence from the action.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:25 AM
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Don't need to know much about abortion to know it is an escape route from a situation you have found yourself in. So no, knowing about abortion in this context is not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:24 AM
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Abortions aren't easy but they are easier than having a kid and it is that that women are dodging the responsibility of.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:53 PM
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Can you explain how that is relevant to the conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:25 PM
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2 things can be true at the same time. It might be the right choice but it is also a way of not taking responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 06:49 PM
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Agreed. It doesn't however change the fact it is still a get out of jail free card to dodge the responsibility of having a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 06:38 PM
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No it isn't It's an escape route from the responsibility of having a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 06:15 PM
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NO I DIDN'T SAY THAT. How many more times do you need telling the difference between to things. Saying women age is not saying they expire. Please get it through your thick little head. I don't give a fuck if it's uncivil, stop acting like an idiot and people wont call you one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:40 PM
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Can you go pick her out a man as well as a new outfit as it sounds she isn't good at either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:38 PM
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Ok you are going to have to quote where I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:24 PM
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Part of looking after your partner is to do things they like. "Dressing up" in some nice outfit doesn't have to cost much and everyone should have at least one outfit they can use that looks nice. My ex was frugal, I can count the number of times in 11 years she wore makeup etc on one hand. but she did put a little effort into appearance when it mattered as everyone should but like your friend 99% of the pictures of us is jeans and a tee. There's being frugal then there is being a miserable tigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:24 PM
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What are you on? I never said men didn't want the kids. Learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:12 PM
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I don't give a shit, plenty of rules get broken on here everyday. I didn't say that and you thinking I did shows I'm right and your an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:10 PM
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You are the one who interjected themselves into this conversation. Saying women age is not saying women expire, women still don't have an issue finding men to go on dates with at nearly any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:09 PM
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Nah man, at least where I am from. These women are single because they don’t do the work to make themselves look attractive. Men actually do care about looks. They care about how their partner looks next to them. Beyond basic hygiene. They cannot be lower than a 1 and as such a 1 man would date them. These women have normal jobs making between 45-70k a year. Finding a partner that makes the same isn’t the issue. The issue is they are extremely cheap, hard to deal with and according to ones last …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:07 PM
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I am not arguing that there are women who do it not when 100% but there are women who 100% want to have sex and they still don't want it more than the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:01 PM
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Because very frugal women tend to not spend the money even in keeping up themselves. Try again (unless they don't do basic hygiene then that would explain it) men are more than happy to date women who don't do all the fake shit. But hey, at least she won’t clean you out in a divorce. She probably wouldn’t even want to get a divorce because of the cost. They would still get a divorce, because they would still want a man who earns more and so they would still benefit from the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:00 PM
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You aren't saying what I said they are not the same. You are clearly a troll no go find someone else to bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:58 PM
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At no point have I said the man wasn't 100% into having kids. You can want something more than someone else but both want that thing. Women really do seem to have trouble with this concept. Its the same as sex drive in men and women, women want sex but men really want sex both 100% want to have sex but the feelings of the man are more intense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:54 PM
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And if there are children he got a hell of a bargain for 18+ years of child care. She didn't do all 18years on her own and half of that effort was her half. But did he not live in the house? Did he eat the food? Was he the only one that cooked? She will also have the buy out his portion of the house if she wants it. He will have done his fair share. No she will get half of it as it is a marital asset.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:51 PM
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God you are fucking stupid. None of them comments say either of them things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:49 PM
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The comments you linked are descriptive in the purpose I identify with RP. What you think RP is and what it actually is are 2 different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:49 PM
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Yep. So begs the question why OP cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:48 PM
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INCELS go on about women expiring not RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:40 PM
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You don’t have to be married to have kids. Yes I know (I am one such man) but most women want to get married. And even most men I know (even well off ones) aren’t well-off though to fully fund their partners life. Their partners still HAVE to work No one said fully fund. And I also said you could marry a cheap and frugal woman. I know plenty of them. All except one are single. And why are they single? (it won't be because they are cheap and frugal plenty of men would love that)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:39 PM
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All of them comments are factual statements regarding how women age. (except number 3 thats a song lyric) at no point do they say women expire or that older men are entitled to younger women. You aren't parroting what RP men say because you think the incels you interact with are RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:36 PM
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What are you on about, all of them things are marital assists and as such are divided equally. Dividing the assets 50/50 means he has paid in 400k more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:30 PM
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IF all men did that the human race would go extinct (it wouldn't the powers that be would make women have kids but we don't want that either)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:27 PM
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No it doesn't. I don't know where you got your RP ideas but RP is only about the truth of how men and women behave in the mating game. You ain't tagging me in any thread on reddit as RP is gone due to it being taken over by incels. You are proving you are some femcel acting like you know what's going on. After an analysis of your account you are a woman who posts shit in femcel subs like inceltears and blatantmisogyny and 2 of your top words in your word cloud are incel and virgin. Get the fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:26 PM
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If that's all true then lets end this experiment now and drop the nukes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:19 PM
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Now you're getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:13 PM
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They are still stupid and it still has nothing to do with the division of household financial responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:11 PM
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What are you talking about? How is it reckless for a woman to want kids more? And you haven't answered the question about non kids marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:09 PM
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How? Most men out earn their wives so lets go with the top end of the "egalitarian stats" of 60%/40% (this isn't egalitarian but whatever) man earns 60k woman earns 40k. 20 years later they divorce and takes half of everything. He has put 400k more into that relationship than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:08 PM
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Hypergamy is not about looks but social status. Men go for hot women and land on what they land, that man will know he got lucky. There is no evidence to what them men where you are sounding like a femcel and wouldn't you know it the next comment I read on that thread was from you spouting more femcel shit https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1frja31/comment/lpe1h08/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:06 PM
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It is not RP. they don’t have sex right away with me and they are less attractive than they were 20 years ago That is some femcel moaning you are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:02 PM
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This wasn’t about the levels of men. This was that men only messaged the top ranked women. And if that 66% of men were the chadliest of chads they would be entitled to message the top women, so yes the level of them men matters. He’s still ugly. He has a beard. Also he is poorer. Not that finances matter. He still is old and ugly. You might find him ugly, but for 49 (she is 39) he is not bad looking and I certainly have friends who look a lot worse than him. And he is neither good looking NOR ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:00 PM
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Didn't say men didn't want them but that women want them more And again, the marriages with no kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:57 PM
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Women are hypergamous meaning the women who are lower on the scale will marry those further up, so a 2 will marry a 4 and be really happy about that as she knows that is probably the best she is going to do. The truth about female sexuality is that she has to see you as better than her and that she has managed to snag someone as I up as she can. The modern problem of women fucking the top men is they think this means they can snag one but can't, in the old days when I was a lad women did not hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:56 PM
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Having a baby is more for the women than the man and as I said tough shit on the biology. And again this still holds true without kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:50 PM
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You are not RP, you are spouting femcel 2X shit. Mentally damaged people are everywhere, lots happen to be older women who have been jaded by life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:49 PM
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In the OKCupid study, 66% of men ONLY messaged the top 33% of women. And how are you going to measure the level of the men? Considering how many men are insisting that Lana Del Rey is looksmatched to her new husband, the definition of “in her league” is skewed Not that far off, he is 10 years older This is Lana Del Rey and her husband. Men here, red pill men here, are insisting that they are looksmatched. So no, men don’t want their looksmatch. They want someone much hotter. Hate to burst your b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:47 PM
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You just proved point 4
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:40 PM
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And the men put more in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:39 PM
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You like so many on here don't understand what TRP is. 50 % of young women overlook their non-sexual response to the dude and marrying them anyway. At best, they are friends. Thats whats going on here. source?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:39 PM
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I'm sure average people can get together and have a happily platonic marriage. Lol, its not platonic. Men should stop blaming women for how they are made. Women should stop complaining men run everything, its how nature made us.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:25 PM
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It isn't fantasy it is reality. You really think there aren't women who use sex to try and lock a man down?? lmao I have a bridge to sell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:24 PM
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Men's labour already benefits the woman whether there is kids or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:23 PM
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See points 3 and 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:22 PM
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You got a bad case of 2X. Their attitudes are of "men are shit" "I deserve X" "I don't have to do anything for you" Lots of older women are so mentally damaged it is not worth getting involved with them (as well as having kids that makes trying to date them practically impossible because they don't want to make the sacrifices they need to make)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:18 PM
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Usually average looking women are more than delighted with an average looking man. Well known women don't want their looks match. It’s usually old middle aged and up men who are nasty about dating women their own age. It's a few shitty men who have been hurt. However, average looking women still want to be treated well. This enrages average looking men, who are not only resentful about having to settle for their looksmatch (or be a passport bro) but also having to treat their looksmatch well. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:16 PM
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some do but it's not much to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:12 PM
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This is what I'm disputing. I hear men say all the time, we dont like certain men because "weve had Chad" before and it boosts our ego. If women are treating you like crap, they just dont like you and have poor character. Our perception of ourselves dosent change what we want, a good looking guy that treats us well for the most part. Its just that 99 percent of men are gross to us...its biology. I think many men just dont want to admit this as well, thats all. And yet there are women who get wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:11 PM
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My son is in school. How do you think single moms and dads do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:02 PM
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Oh it's you again. None of that is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:01 PM
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Why can’t you answer it? It’s obvious to me. Answer what? 40 year old men are hypergamous by nature. They DESPISE 40 year old women. They consider them old, post wall, and unattractive. I'm 46 and have dated older women. problem with a lot of older women is their attitudes are terrible. I also don't expect any of that, you're just being pissy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:00 PM
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Nope, using your own special metric. “Just change who you’re attracted to, bro”. You make it sound easy, so you do it. I never said it was easy, and why should I change mine when it is perfectly reasonable as it is. Use her for what? Women are adults who enjoy sex, they aren’t being used. Most women do like sex but most they don't like casual sex and want it in the confines of a relationship so these women are being used by men who they think they can get commitment from but can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:55 PM
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I fit it all around my work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:48 PM
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Are you dense? The man has already put more into the lifestyle than the women before the kid and he is maintaining that during this period. Most women don't breastfeed when they go back to work. It doesn't compound over their life because most women work shitty jobs earning shitty pay and don't get out of that, taking 6 months to a year (most women) doesn't impact there earnings very much, and here in the UK it impacts them nothing. If you want to keep everything separated, then men should get n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:47 PM
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Okay, so men can date obese women and single mothers then. Problem solved. you're one step away form the "just be gay bro". It's not men with the over inflated sense of self worth it's women, they are the ones who need to reign in their attitudes. You mean without any means of gaining independence, like I said. You want women to be once again forced to marry men. No, you're making shit up. being raised properly would instil the ability to be self assured and to be able to go get an education and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:43 PM
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No one "deserves" anything, to be clear. Cool, now go tell all these women that. What are you talking about when you say how they behave, I feel some wires have been crossed. The other person and me are on about how women behave in general with their attitude to how they see themselves and what that then makes them "want" not about how these women treat men they don't want to date. You still not answered my question though. can you explain why very average looking women think they deserve a top …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:36 PM
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Attraction is subjective. This isn’t debatable, there is no method of forcing or coercing women to feel attraction for men they don’t. Attraction is fluid and is affected by outside sources. Them women being raised differently would have changed their attraction triggers. The fact that women ran towards a forty hour workweek and divorce court at top speed should tell you everything you need to know about how women felt about their husbands in the past. Yeah it tells me they fell for the propagan…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:30 PM
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How is he going to work and raise his children from infancy to adulthood? Who is going to raise the children, teach them, feed them, run all their errands, get them to every school day and function on time, facilitate their social lives, nurse them when they are sick, ensure they hit all their milestones, launder all their clothing, buy all their clothing in the right sizes, help with homework, help them with their hobbies and teach them how to take care of themselve, wake up with them at night …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:26 PM
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Of course men care, your assertation that these women don't find these men attractive and so wouldn't marry them is based on you thinking attraction is static. It isn't static and if we could have given the freedom they have now without the feminism BS then they wouldn't have gone down the road of "I deserve the best" and might have realised that they still need men and they aren't the hottest think to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:23 PM
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They do by paying her bills and giving her a lifestyle. Most women don't lose a lot in earnings as they were not going to make ceo anyway (women don't get promotions much because they don't push for or want them) most women want to go part time/reduce hours after having a baby. And non of that changes the fact that in marriages with no kids the man has still paid in more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:21 PM
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If you have a point make it, stop dancing around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:14 PM
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Attraction isn't static. Women have convinced themselves they are 10's and deserve the best men. women have lost touch with reality and it will bite society in its ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:14 PM
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nothing he can do it himself. But if he needed some help you can get people to come over once or twice a week to clean for not much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:09 PM
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Feminism destroyed the nuclear family, it made a lot of women insufferable and entitled. Some men said fuck this I'm out because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:08 PM
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I never claimed that, maybe you should reread it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:06 PM
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Those goal posts just grow legs, huh. They haven't moved an inch. How many men have a non-working wife who does not raise the kids or take care of domestic duties? Not many I would bet but they exist. And of those men who pay a woman to inhabit their house and do nothing, which of them are stupid? All of them. What is your point to these questions? They have nothing to do with the splitting of financial responsibility of a household.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:04 PM
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Why would I want to adopt or use a surrogate? and what would be the fucking point of marrying a woman who does nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:01 PM
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Nice sentiment and if you can manage it then good for you but the reality is that, 1, men out earn women and so statistically you are more likely to meet a woman who earns less. 2, If you find one who earns the same it will likely only be until a kid comes a long and then she wants to scale back her earnings potential. 3, women strongly favour wanting a man who earns more. 4, men do not have the options to be that picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:00 PM
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I see men assume this a lot. Can you explain how these women behave? Why do you expect plain women to be eager for any guy that comes around? Ok, lets take out that as an assumption. can you explain why very average looking women think they deserve a top tier man? Do you ask the men why they become that way? Nothing happens in a vacume Because women are extremely entitled, they feel that its the mans job to provide her with everything she wants. If he can't live up to her expectations she will d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:56 PM
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No he wouldn't. If he had a wife and she didn't do anything and he needed to hire people to do the things he would expect from a wife then she would need to pay for half of it as well, on top of paying half of everything else. He would then keep the extra he makes for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:45 PM
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No. How do you come to that conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:40 PM
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In marriages with no kids there is no "women's labour" yet still she gets half. With kids who is paying for her during that short period she can't work? And if you are talking about the actual being pregnant and giving birth, tough shit can't change biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:32 PM
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Men out earn women in most marriages. A marriage that lasts 20 years before divorce the likelihood is the man has paid a lot more into the relationship than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 05:57 PM
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Nothing to do with kids. Men out earn women in most marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 05:56 PM
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mgtow wouldn't exist without feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 05:52 PM
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Reality. Assets gained within a marriage are paid for mostly by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 05:47 PM
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It's not about the shitty men but the good men who get fucked over.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:20 AM
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Translation. When women are in need help them When men need protecting fuck em. I'm from the UK btw so we have the same single mother problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:33 PM
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How is that the state's problem ? How is it the states problem when women get knocked up by shitty men? But yes, there is a procedure to cancel paternity. At least that's something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:58 AM
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Mistakes happen. What about the men who do trust their wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:59 PM
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We are slaves to our biology, those hormones running around your body are making decisions for you all the time. Rape and fighting are not nearly the same as not wanting to raise another mans kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:58 PM
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There is always more to something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:51 PM
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Making them mandatory has several benefits. Women will cheat less. More jobs created as more labs are needed. The competition from more labs means the price goes down. The price going down and having more capacity means rape kits could then be processed. Children who know who their dad is will have better medical futures.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:23 PM
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I'm sure humans have done that in the past too (and maybe still do somewhere) But what's your point? It doesn't change the fact that men in general don't like raising other men's kids especially if they where lied too about being the dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:18 PM
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And the men who aren't fine with it but have been cucked? If you suspect women, you should doubt and test And yet men in France can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 07:19 PM
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And the men who don't have doubt but have been hoodwinked, what should they do? No, the parental relationship is also an issue, which is the point How does that relate to medical privacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:54 PM
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Only privacy being taken here is the babies and they can't consent to anything hence why the parents make the decisions, so if a man is being told he is the dad then he has right to order a test for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:28 PM
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You are still taking a risk after date 3, 10 or 50, all life is risk. Not having sex on a first date is either. Don't trust you Don't find you sexually attractive enough. Have mental hang up over it (like being thought of as a slut etc) Looking to take advantage of you And to your main point, Knowing someone more IS about trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:27 PM
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I didn’t add that in after the fact. It was there when you replied. I know, I ignored it because its BS. Trust isn't binary, you can know someone for a along time and not fully trust them. But you need to trust someone to a certain degree before sleeping with them, this can be garnered in a few hours in person or hours of talking on the phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:18 PM
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If you can't monitor someone 24/7 then there is ample opportunity to go cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:03 PM
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Yes, you adding the "because they fully trust each other" is BS, sex for women is about trust, if they don't trust you they don't want you near them let alone sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:02 PM
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I live in the UK with the NHS, that doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:00 PM
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So then shouldn't a man be able to go get a test to make sure its his. Can a man (if he has already declared himself the dad) change his mind if he finds out its not his?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:00 PM
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Why not doing it for the purpose of avoiding a baby swap since it's more common ? Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:39 PM
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This is presumptive that the man has some doubt. The mandatory testing argument is actually about the men who raise kids who aren't theirs unknowingly. If it was mandatory then these men wouldn't get scammed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:35 PM
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no one has sex on a first date (when it’s a true first meeting) because they fully trust the person. Lots of people have sex after first meet, it can be after long commination via text etc or just a one night stand of someone you met in the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:33 PM
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The whole point of all life on the planet is to reproduce. There is a strong bias towards ones own seed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:26 PM
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The law doesn't require for a man to be a child's genitor in order to declare him a father. How does that work? Are you saying a court can declare a man the farther of a child whether it is his or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:22 PM
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Because you don't have the time to monitor someone 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:08 PM
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It was an example of how it is already (to a degree) out there being discussed in the halls of power. How about you engage a few brain cells and learn to read what is being written.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:06 PM
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Non of that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:05 PM
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not any more stupid than men who aren't responsible with their sperm and knock women up It is more stupid as women suffer more from it than men. children cost more than medical costs. how are you going to feed a baby with no bottles? where will it sleep? what will it wear? where will it shit? They are the cost of doing business, you can't by a bmw then moan about servicing costs. some men will, but you can't assume that just having a man means a woman is going to be financially supported. The va…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:05 AM
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in the us they do I know, that is why I said it depends where you live. which is different than "It costs nothing to be pregnant and give birth" If you are doing it without a man you are stupid full stop, but those costs are like the "costs" of buying a car, you don't need a car and you don't need to have a baby it's just the cost of doing business. The actual costs of the medical side of things is 100% free. how? Because he will support her? Women in the US who don't earn loads seem to have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:59 PM
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You said "there is no way to have kids for a woman without making a huge financial sacrifice that compounds over time for the rest of your life unless you are very wealthy from the start." women here do not suffer huge financial loses from having a kid. If a woman is having a kid without the man around it will cost her some money (supplies etc) but she pays nothing for any medical care of any kind. Having a man means she suffers no quality of life adjustments (besides being pregnant) Long term o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:40 PM
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It costs nothing to be pregnant and give birth and they get maternity leave and pay. They are guaranteed their job after their leave ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:25 PM
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UK (probably other parts of Europe too)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:34 PM
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that depends where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:44 PM
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The answer is it depends on the man, some stay and some leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:39 PM
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That depends on the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:25 PM
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Sure I do, but men don't. See: women's reproductive health. Correction, see tradcons, men understand it just fine. His ability to provide for the family he's legally and morally bound to is negatively affected by cheating. It might be but not always. So is cheating. Your very argument renders the fidelity test obsolete. It isn't about infidelity at its core but paying for a child that isn't yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:20 PM
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He could still cheat and non of your ideas would mean you would find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:27 PM
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It happens and has happened a hell of a lot. Things like this happen a lot Obviously no signs he picked up on
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:26 PM
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Yeah, so.. So it isn't fully a fidelity test. Do you understand there are biological difference that can't be "balanced" out? There is no genetic test which proves male fidelity, And when a man cheats (even getting another women pregnant) he isn't making you pay for a child that isn't yours. Hiding whatever he has looked at online is easy so if that was a thing you still wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:23 PM
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Which is the "constant invasion of privacy" I mentioned, still doesn't stop him cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:17 PM
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You're the one saying she would have to be an actual idiot, the fact is lots of women do cheat and get pregnant and try and pass the baby off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:15 PM
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Paternity testing is fidelity testing, and women are owed the same consideration. Not fully it isn't as you can cheat without getting pregnant. Mandatory testing should be done for the men who do trust their partner (but obviously shouldn't have) who then raise a kid or 3 that isn't his. The men are "recoiling" at the ridiculousness of the proposition in the OP, there is a difference between being open and having the ability to check his phone and the constant invasion of privacy, which also doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:12 PM
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There wouldn't be a start like that it would just be that everyone at once gets it like other civilized countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:03 PM
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Where did I say it was? That all you got some strawman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:01 PM
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A dna test isn't invasive. A dna test can save the mans or babies life later down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:00 PM
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Yep. But maybe that would get the people to agree to socialized healthcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:59 PM
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My issue with this is that a woman would have to be a literal idiot Plenty of them about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:47 PM
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It can't consent to vaccines or other medical procedures, should we not do anything??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:33 PM
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That is far more likely how mandatory paternity testing gets to be made law tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:29 PM
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And that is why it is discussed be us plebs before hand so if we as the people decide "yes this would actually be a good thing" then the politicians would then get it sorted. Tennessee already flaunted with the idea to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:29 PM
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Don't for a second think women are any better in this situation. Women also settle and they pull the trigger on divorce because they have a perspective of "there is all these other men out there who seem better than the dud I married" It's because people want the best (blame social media showing people living a lie to get clicks)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:46 PM
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I think a lot did without realising it, it was just better than being alone. Scarcity mentality drives people to make decisions they wouldn't make otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:58 PM
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There isn't sexless dork or chad mc'chadman. Lots of the men I have known over the years didn't have lots of options and settled with the first or second woman to look their way. The average N of men is what? 7? and we know there are men who have massive N and so there must be a whole load of 1/2/3 N men to balance it out. Most men do not have the options.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:44 PM
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True, but talk to enough men and you will see most didn't have many options before settling down with whoever they are with. We know its the top % of men with the most options, then comes the next % with some options then a big chunk of not many options and then the rest of no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:28 PM
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Just because a man is in a relationship doesn't mean he had options.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:10 PM
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If your not attracted to someone it doesn't count as an option Attraction isn't static for a start. People are influenced by outside forces. People today are far more self obsessed. Just because you don't like any given option doesn't mean they are not an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:08 PM
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Why should the one who invested more unpaid labor into the relationship get less out ... It isn't unpaid. They are getting their needs met by the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:42 PM
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This is country dependant but all should have unemployment, disability and medical covered for everyone. Savings and pensions are a different matter. Why should the one who paid more into the relationship get less out when the other decides they want to divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:30 AM
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I see trolls as pointless and no fun as they know they are full of shit. Feminists are fun because they believe the shit they say and pointing out how they are wrong and getting them mad is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:43 AM
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Everything is replaceable in value terms, so no one is bringing anything important.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:40 AM
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I think the rule should be that after... 21, you should no longer say a woman looks how old she is, otherwise it's rude like in the clip. You should say younger So you want men to help women live in their delusion. Men you all have big dicks and if a woman say's otherwise she is rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:37 AM
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Plenty of trolls in here to avoid. Feminists are easy to deal with as most of them hold standards in dating that are against feminism and pointing them out usually gets them mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:33 AM
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So girl porn. Hope you told her to go watch "debby does dallas" and take inspiration from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:20 AM
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Any examples? I don't watch a lot but what I have seen in clips etc, when a woman thinks she has made a good point and a gotcha she really hasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:18 AM
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Takes two questions, and you can make them speechless and look like morons. Which questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:57 AM
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I would have made them go outside and interact with their peers. Problem is they wouldn't find their peers outside because they wouldn't want/parents wouldn't allow them to go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:43 AM
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That isn't the context for accountability men are on about stop with the strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:01 AM
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It is in the context here. The women are saying they would have failed as a parent if they had caleb which means they are only looking at it as a "I failed" to raise someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:40 AM
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LMAO, plenty of young male teachers who get harassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:48 PM
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Teenage girls also harass their male teachers, whats your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:45 PM
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Yeah because it isn't like there is another female teacher every week having been caught having sex with teenage boys is there? smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:31 PM
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So now you agree? Agree to what? Also how are you able to google the definition of callousness but the definition of grok Because I have never heard the word grok and presumed you had had a fat fingers moment and misspelled something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:23 AM
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1, whats "grok" 2, callousness is intentionally causing hurt to someone. What you wrote in quotes is how you feel about not providing care (because apparently you have no agency to??) It represents the male experience, besides maybe our mother (if we were lucky to have a good one) or one of the rare women you might date/marry, no one else really cares about us unless we provide some benefit for them. Add in the fact that you are always in a competition and men learn to just keep their feelings t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:29 PM
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No wonder women get labeled as over reactor's, it is not callousness (insensitive and cruel disregard for others.) but an attitude of "well I can't do anything for you and it does suck you are going through that, hope you figure it out"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:08 PM
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It's not callousness, it's more of a guarded situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:31 PM
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Why don’t men provide mutual care for one another? They do, to a degree, but we are built to compete. This leads to how we can't be seen as weak and having problems you can't overcome is seen as a sign of weakness. It seems like even a lot of men with male friends act as though they’re not getting care from their friends. Because it's only surface level care from our male friends, a "well that sucks" is common response to any issue we might talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:39 PM
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It's not surprising, people don't give a shit about men unless they are providing something, so they are just giving the same energy back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:19 PM
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I don't think you understand the argument here. Religion has helped science at times, not arguing against that. But science has at times been held back by religion plenty of times. Despite this science prevailed. So my original comment of "Science succeeded despite religion not because of it." is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:02 PM
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I read it and proved your wrong Well maybe you should read it again. Here "Plenty of scientists were religious but had to be careful about how they practiced science unless they upset those in charge, that is holding back science." You haven't proven anything but your inability to think clearly. Religion has to be organized because it is made up, this is why we say there are different religions even those that are based on the same book are classed as different. This is because religion is it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:55 PM
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Again wrong, Galileo was religious yet he still got house arrested by the church Did you not read what I wrote? No matter what you say religion is its church as that give it it's authority over the population, so religion is the religious institution.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:52 PM
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Religion never held science back but instead it was ignorance from religious institutions Religious institutions are religion, it is they who say what is right or wrong within their remit. Plenty of scientists were religious but had to be careful about how they practiced science unless they upset those in charge, that is holding back science.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:20 PM
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Plenty of times through history that religion held science back. Science succeeded despite religion not because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:57 PM
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Mind readers, they want men to be mind readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:32 PM
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400 lbs nikocados Have you seen that guy now?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:37 PM
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Wouldn't that just show who was serious on the app? Could cut down on the people who are there for validation/browsing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:14 AM
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I get where you're coming from as my dad was a waste of oxygen. But I took that experience and said "Well I know what not to do" and decided I would put actual effort and care into my kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:38 PM
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I don't need too as biology does for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:07 PM
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All life is. Its why it has survived for billions of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:04 PM
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As opposed to the people who need nurses to wipe their ass because they can’t any longer? Life is selfish and it puts up with the shittest of conditions just to carry on its existence. Red-pillers have no business demanding others seek psychiatric care. Lmao Says the blooper who thinks he should leave all women alone. That is not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:01 PM
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Anyone who wants to end their own existence is broken. Go seek help.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:51 PM
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That wasn't my argument at all and shows you can neither read or understand biology. My argument is. The default position of life is to survive, any that want to end their existence early are broken, it is still all biological. As the vast vast majority of humans hold the default position of "wanting to live" then unless you are part the small minority of broken people (at which point get help) you will want to live when you are old.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:46 PM
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You haven't disproven anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:37 PM
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Its still biology, again I suggest you go learn some.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:31 PM
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They were mentally ill. Bro, if you are mentally ill I suggest you go seek help. For mentally healthy people the thought of death terrifies them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:27 PM
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Its not mind reading, its biology, maybe you should go learn some.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:20 PM
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You don't understand the human condition, we have this instinct to survive even at the shittiest of times, so yes, you are likely to not have the same sentiment when you are old. You really need to go out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:13 PM
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And they don’t want any man to chase them, they want to be left alone. If that were true then no one would be in a relationship, tell your other brain cell to wake up. I would rather be put down than be unable to look after myself. You wont feel that way when you get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:05 PM
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Women actively do not want to be chased. Correction "women only want to be chased by men they want to chase them" No one is entitled to being looked after. Hope you keep that same energy when you are old and frail. But I never said they were entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:54 PM
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Oh look, another person who didn't understand the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:48 PM
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But life isn’t about always getting what you want I didn't say it was, it is about chasing what you want. Not having sex is hardly “a living hell” Living in a world with no younger generations to look after you is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:47 PM
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Life is all about what people want, that is our drives. Following your idea though means there will be no people so there wont be any wants, but just before there is no people those that are a live will be in living hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:39 PM
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That would certainly solve it in the long run, but not a world people will want to live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:27 PM
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Or... those women could "lower their standards" to men's levels and take on all comers. Is that what you want? Do you bloopers ever read what people write? At no point are we talking about women taking all comers. Men have always said understand your own level and date the men who are at that level. Pick a lane. Do men want women who are prudent and cautious with their bodies, or women who behave as men and fuck 80% of the men who would have them? These aren't 2 different lanes, they are 2 diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:51 PM
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Do you get it now? Get what? you haven't made any point. My point you are failing to grasp is simple. The more women get used to seeing attractive guys on places like OLD the more it will affect their decision making IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:43 PM
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Just say "desperate and indiscriminate". It's fine, women know this about men. Oh there are those type of men for sure, but even the normal men find more women attractive than the normal women find men attractive. Now admit that men don't want to date desperate and indiscriminate women, do they? DO YOU? The only women who are like that are bottom of the barrel, so no I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:36 PM
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This difference is how many fit the bill. Far more women are found attractive than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:27 PM
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See, this is one of the primary reasons the red pill is dogshit. Why disqualify yourself and others with this rhetoric? No man has any idea how his presence and attention will be received by any individual woman in other circumstances. I see you didn't understand a word of what I wrote. I'm not disqualifying anyone, those that use online apps will take their experience of judging people off of looks and apply it to their real life interactions, this is your subconscious at work. Absolutely no on…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:16 PM
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Neither speed dating nor OLD reflect typical interactions between men and women. And if those types of method weren't the way lots and lots of people go about trying to find dates then it wouldn't matter. The problem is they are, and this then bleeds into real life. If you are used to selecting based on physical appearance you will carry that into your real life situations and dismiss someone because they don't fit the aesthetic you are used too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:35 PM
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But the women still tend to want to get married and thus take advantage of the benefits of it while also having the benefits of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:27 PM
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If you are only considering the attractive person dating a lesser attractive person. What if they are both attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:39 PM
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No argument so just insult them. How typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:05 PM
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Yeah, but they always neglect to say what type of personality they are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:59 PM
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They aren't tricked, they know he is a piece of shit, they know he slapped his last ex or has a drug problem or an assault charge before they get into bed with him. They WANT the hot guy, the guy who makes their knees wobble and they convince themselves "I can change him" and when he ends up slapping her and she leaves, half the time she will go back for round 2/3/4
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:56 PM
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The “ info is out there” Cause before that no one ever told a dude to lift weights or work hard? That isn't all TRP is. It doesn’t matter what I believe. The lack of results speak for themselves. If Rp “info” was so great then it would actually have something to show for it. Other than a long list of grifting “influencers” and an a banner message board AGAIN there are a lot of men enjoying their success (I am one) just because we don't go around bragging about it doesn't mean it isn't real. Like…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:53 PM
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Its lying or mental illness. You choose. Either way they are full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:44 PM
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Rp will work in the real world because, politics? Another demonstration of your lack of ability to read. Number of people going to TRP doesn't matter. its info is already out there. You don't want to believe it, fine up to you, but the proof is all the men who have gotten what they want from life by going through the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:40 PM
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I'm am talking about the same thing just to a different degree. The men who will assault a women will not care what you are wearing. Men who will shout shit at you some will only do it when you are dressed in revealing clothes and some will do it to any women they see. Men who notice you and hit on you, most will be based on how you are dressed. Hence why it does matter what you wear and it will effect how much attention you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:24 PM
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RP in the real world does work. I hate to burst that little bubble you live in but its true. You are a small minded person who can't admit the truth when presented, this is why you are arguing so much and using memes as a defence mechanism. There are only a few RP guys on PPD, you can see it by the way they write and the advise they give, and how when they speak they rarely get replies from the person they are talking too as there is no argument against it. I don't know how long you have been he…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:21 PM
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No, I still see lots of people out and about but I don't really notice who they are. In the summer lots an lots of women are walking around in tight revealing clothes, and as a man it is what attracts my attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:03 PM
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Brings me right back to the start “if you were actually able to BE Redpill, you would have never needed TRP in the first place.” Because you still don't understand it, most men (go look outside) are not making bank and looking their best and they certainly don't understand women. Your average chump can get to the stage he can get casual sex if he puts the work in (just most men are lazy so don't want to) and that is what TRP can do for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:02 PM
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“The Red pill is- “ A group of men who got together and workshopped on why women act the way they do and then came up with ways to tip the scales in their favour using what they learned. Or as I have said Some info you then use to work on yourself to live the life you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:51 PM
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I notice far far more women in the summer V the winter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:49 PM
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It is defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:39 PM
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Translation: even you can’t actually break down the analogy because it’s just talking points Dude the analogy is plain as day, it is you who hasn't understood it ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:19 PM
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Ok, you are clearly to blinded to see what has been written. It is there if you want to learn. Laters.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:15 PM
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Last attempt to try and make you understand what it is. An analogy. A car mechanic instruction book is information but without putting in the work and practice you wont be a mechanic. You can read it and understand the truth in it and you can make videos about how shit this engine is or how stupid the placement of a switch is but unless you go and get your hands dirty you are not a mechanic. So you can be red pilled (know the information) but you are not going to get any success with it until yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:57 PM
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It isn't being pitched by influencers. Do you have mental health issues or are just stupid? I have told you why it is how it is. Most people are lazy as fuck and don't want to put the work in, that is why they are "happy" to sit and watch "shit on women" videos all day. It has success, just because it isn't being paraded around like the Stanley cup doesn't mean it isn't successful. Bitcoin went crazy exactly because people are lazy and saw a way to try and make a quick buck. TRP doesn't work ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:40 PM
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I have defined it you just possess blinkers made by your biased attitude. RP is info, what you do with it is up to you but if you want to come out of it better you need to take responsibility and work on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:26 PM
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You are just showing you don't understand all this. RP isn't a movement, it doesn't recruit, it doesn't advertise. Men in the past found it by searching the internet for "why do women do X" or some such usually after a break up. Today the internet is full of "look how shitty women are" blogs and videos, that is why there is so much of it as angry men lap it up. The anger is natural and we all went through it, but today they don't get out of it because they are stuck on that type of content inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:21 PM
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It hasn't stagnated and died. It isn't a movement, it is just information.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:23 PM
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So is joker I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:59 AM
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You do realize most RP men don't go to the forum, I haven't been there in years. We have already took the lessons it teaches and moved on. People over here know exactly what it is: No they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:05 AM
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Please read the thread you have replied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:25 PM
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RP in 24 is quite and doing it's own thing (they are on their own website away from the normal social media), a few of us on here arguing with bluepilled idiots. The grifters on social media aren't RP, they are just manospherians screaming into the void. People on here everyday show they don't know what TRP is and are actually moaning about either trads or incels who say the stupidest of shit. Talk to the few of us who remain on here to see successful RP men. Talk to older men who have been arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:23 PM
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It's a more dignified state than pretending to be in a different sexual orientation or being attracted to anime characters. And non of them 2 things were topics of discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:15 PM
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There's nothing wrong with going your own way. Only if you WANT to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:10 PM
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citation missing- You're clutching at straws, you seriously think I am going to list out all the ex pro's who can't coach for shit and all the poor players who make great coaches? Wow, I don't think I have read so much drivel in my life. RP isn't "alt right" it does promote "rape culture" or "gender roles" typical propaganda from a society that needs men as servants and promotes women over men. And what is wrong with that man creating a space on reddit that existed on scattered forums? I guess h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:54 PM
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It's not a movement. "this football coach used to be a shit player so we shouldn't listen to what they are saying" This is what you sound like, many a shit player makes an amazing coach, and plenty of amazing players can't coach for shit. JP isn't RP. Have you seen what rollo looks like? he obviously didn't want to put the work in to get the results, he was a theorist that plenty of men have proven true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:11 PM
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Do you understand the concept that people can teach but can't do?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:46 PM
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I know who it is about but what do you think it means?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:36 PM
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We need to know what the other half are up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:32 PM
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And what is that pick supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:07 PM
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I've seen it with my own eyes more times then I can count. Unattractive men who act weird get called creeps because they send a shiver (in the wrong way) down the spine of women with the hot guys acting shitty will be called pigs or jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:37 AM
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The fast majority of people will label a hot guy who completely acts like a pig as a creep. No they don't. "Creep" today is based on looks, the hot guy acting as a pig will be called a pig and then one of her friends will say "but he is hot though"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:18 AM
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Because most non RP people around here don't know what TRP actually is. Happens everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:11 AM
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The women complaining of not being able to find a guy are only interested in men with degree's. As there are more women earning them (no matter how poor of a future they might generate) than men you will get an imbalance. As men are more likely to pick a degree that is actually useful in finding a good paying job and men can also do more high paying blue collar jobs they will still out pace women..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:13 PM
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???????????
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:21 AM
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But what you are describing is different. The words “ugly” and “mid” are intentionally derogatory. No they aren't, women perceive them as such because they pin so much value on their looks. And there is also a large minority of men who want an 8/10+ 18 year old virgin nympho. Delusional people are not the majority of the dating market. They are not worth worrying about when you are actually looking for a date. You have to go out of your way to be affected by these delusional oddballs because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:24 PM
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Are you ok? Seems like you are responding to the wrong comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:15 PM
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If if calling the woman you’re fucking ugly is “being real” then yes, you’re describing exactly the kind of men women shouldn’t be dating. Yes, I agree that average women should stay the fuck away from men who call them “mid” and “ugly”— these are exactly the men who are pumping and dumping women. Any man who is dating a women who is mid and below will admit they are not the most beautiful women around because men are realists and have eyes. Sorry to burst your bubble but any man you're dating t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:47 PM
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Errr, they do trust them, that's part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:36 PM
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Come on mods. 15 day account with negative karma Troll is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:17 PM
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Have you replied to the wrong conversation? Non of that has to do with relationships being more effort than being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:07 PM
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mobility wise we are definitely not compatible, but she is a very understanding close friend that lets me gripe about issues whenever i want. among other things that you do with friends. Do you know any normal people? why the extreme? do you not love someone who doesn't have some kind of medical problem? But in this she still gives you something in return (an ear to bend) and I presume is a good friend who treats you well. Would you love someone who only took form you and never gave you anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:57 AM
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At no point was the question limited to very old people with dementia. Apply it to someone your age. love is complicated. but it's never going to be 100% equal transactional. it's all context dependent. Correct, but we all want something from our partners and it is fair to say "if you don't want to give me what I want then we are not compatible." eg what if lady is pregnant/ post-partum? injured? etc. in those cases sex is definitely off the table based on advice from doctors Yes temporary event…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:44 AM
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Personal responsibility, dodging it like neo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:23 AM
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paternity test should be mandatory. Financial abortion should be an option. Women should be allowed to have abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:43 AM
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Except that is exactly how men get bamboozled into raising a cuck baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:33 AM
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ie. i look after my grandma with dementia. will she appreciate my gesture? probably not since she has dementia. but i do it because i love her And that is still effort. if you look at all relationships like a quid pro quo, it's clear you don't love the other person Would you do everything for a person you love with receiving nothing in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:42 AM
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LOL, some lawyers in canada?? Men earn more than women and this isn't because of a wage gap but an earning gap. The earning gap has a few reasons behind it and one of them is that women work less hours, this applies across all groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:23 AM
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LOL, some lawyers in canada?? Men earn more than women and this isn't because of a wage gap but an earning gap. The earning gap has a few reasons behind it and one of them is that women work less hours, this applies across all groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:22 AM
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Women most men are not interested in for a relationship anyways. If men are actually attracted to a woman, they don’t call her “ugly” or “mid”. It is awesome watching men call women they claim to be attracted to “ugly”, lol. How valuable is a man’s “attraction” to a woman he thinks is “mid” or downright “ugly”, lol. See now you don't know men. Men have this ability called being real, we are attracted women who are "mid" and know she is "mid" because we can see hot women and know the woman we are…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:19 AM
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The goalposts haven’t moved. Original goalposts "as well as the majority of on the job deaths." Your response "Women make up the majority of deaths due to maternal mortality." My response "in 2021 1205 women died from childbirth related issues while 4741 men died of workplace issues." Your goalpost move "How many men suffered lifelong reproductive and abdominal issues post birth, " We were talking about deaths not suffering lifelong effects of things. Raising your fucking children for 18-50 year…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:54 PM
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Oh. How many men suffered lifelong reproductive and abdominal issues post birth don't move the goal posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:17 PM
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in 2021 1205 women died from childbirth related issues while 4741 men died of workplace issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:49 PM
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You can believe that if you want but at least I both looked at and discussed the source you provided. You didn’t do that for mine And then when shown the raw data you want to ignore it. Why would I discuss your poor links. This is just about how women are more likely to work part time and men to do overtime due to different roles in the family unit and has nothing to do with the original point of men do more paid+unpaid work than women. the gender pay gap, this isn't real as it is caused by wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:40 PM
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I understand you want to get bogged down on this Reddit post and the stat website but the overall data supports what I believe including the website that the Reddit post you linked provided a source for No it doesn't. The data shows men do slightly more total work than women. It’s ok. I gained a lot from this conversation and feel like i understand my position more thoroughly. It’s thanks to you challenging my ideas that I was able to do this so just like I said "I can't argue against facts so I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:29 PM
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Thanks for the debate but we are going to have to agree to disagree. You can't agree to disagree on raw data. The issue is not being able to have a family without being economically and socially penalized. That is the way of the world. To do it the other way would mean disadvantaging those who don't want a family. We have to value all humans’ rights to both gainful employment and family investment. You don't have a right to either of these things and you can't give people rights to these things …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:19 PM
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There is no imbalance, men do their fair share nowadays. Men are now judged by women on their ability to keep house. I followed the link and compared house work and working hours individually and it didn’t back up what you said. Men work per day 4.36 women 3.12 Men household activities per day 1.55 women 2.39 Men caring and helping household members 0.39 women 0.64 totals Men 6.3 women 6.15
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:57 PM
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haha, yeah, I can't image it's great but still better then the alternative back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:30 PM
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Interesting. I wasn't trying to be right just my thought of what I would use in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:23 PM
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No, I'm sorry but there is information on this that doesn't rely on reddit surveys. It doesn't rely on reddit surveys I suggest you read it all properly. It uses the ATUS, the biggest survey of people that is done in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:16 PM
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I always thought some kind of moss or natural absorbent wrapped in cloth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:03 PM
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Childless women don't work less hours. Yes they do, men work more hours at all levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:01 PM
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I have often wondered this. Local to me there are posters in the men's bathroom for a charity that gets period products to women in india. What did women do for 100's of thousands of years before we invented the tampon?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:44 PM
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You could have just searched for it. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1ejrblm/short_version_men_are_not_slobs_fathers_are_not/ Someone 21 days ago did a big post that includes it but it has been posted loads of times over the years. It is the american time use survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:33 PM
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Do men contribute equally to care work yes or no? If both men and women are participating in the workforce but then there is an imbalance when it comes to home life, that means women work MORE. How long have you been on this sub because that has been put to bed. When paid and unpaid work are added up men do slightly more in total (men do more paid and women do more unpaid) so men are doing more than their fair share. We don't account for this in a workplace by assuming that women, like men, have…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:18 PM
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Based on the opinions of women they interviewed. There is no evidence in it that women get less time to heal, it shows that women don't like the loss of being a serious injury might bring and place a lot of pressure onto themselves that they don't need too. Take this extract. "Nicole: I’m a mum, you know my partner and my kids need me and you know I can’t let my kids down and say because I’m injured it’s the end of the world type of thing. … I think it’s just the normal natural thing for all mum…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:08 PM
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Nope. Plenty of hot AF women get nowhere near being a celeb. plenty of celebs are ugly AF. Plenty of celebs use so much make up/cosmetic surgery/other shit to hide their ugly asses
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:56 PM
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No it says women take longer to recover because of the cultural expectations of care work. Men get to recover fully from surgery is because they aren't expected to maintain care work during that recovery process. This is part of the problem with assuming women's efforts in the home are worthless, assuming this means we are not compensating for them appropriately which has real effects in the bigger economic and societal picture It is an opinion piece with no data. Men suffer the pressure of gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:28 PM
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No it says women take longer to recover because of the cultural expectations of care work. Men get to recover fully from surgery is because they aren't expected to maintain care work during that recovery process. This is part of the problem with assuming women's efforts in the home are worthless, assuming this means we are not compensating for them appropriately which has real effects in the bigger economic and societal picture It is an opinion piece with no data. Men suffer the pressure of gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:28 PM
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And… that’s what you just argued young women should do— have low self esteem so they won’t reject men anymore. That’s how you get attractive women dating shitty men, and you want more of that. Good grief. No I didn't, your lack of reading comprehension is truly astounding. Young slender women are absolutely at the peak of desirability according to what men of all ages find most desirable. The 20 year old non-obese women you guys call a 4 are actually still in the top 20%… you just don’t recogniz…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:23 PM
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argue with me all you want about the military thing but its widely recognized. I am well aware there are issues with men's equipment being the default and in some cases there are genuine problems (like body armor) but when it comes to injuries most of it is caused by the female body not being as robust as the male one. Ya I was hoping you would actually read through it this time. It talks about cultural barriers. I did read it, it is an article about how women FEEL and no data on it being real, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:12 PM
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Female soldiers are far more likely to fracture their pelvis than males, as a result of the biased design of military boots, course requirements and backpacks. This isn't a design issue but a women are not designed to carry heavy loads while doing strenuous activities, no shit they will get more pelvic fractures when 1, their pelvises are not as strong as men's, 2, they are not designed to put so much pressure on them to begin with, they are designed for you to just be able to push a babies head…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:15 PM
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While I appreciate you speedy and concise explanation, there is in fact already research on this and it points to design inequality between the genders That link doesn't work but yes I remember seeing their supposed explanations about the way seat belts are designed causing more hip injuries etc, except that stems from women's bodies being weaker. You would have to completely redesign a car just for women to make it more safe (you couldn't make one that would make it as safe as a man's due to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:57 PM
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Why are women 47% more likely to get injured in car accidents (17% more likely to die) despite causing less accidents? Because women's bodies are more fragile. Why are women on average less likely to get adequate recover time for procedures and surgery? Source? What is the leading cause of workplace death for women? Homicide, as they are more likely to work as a cashier and shot. men are 10 times more likely to die at work than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:24 PM
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Oh yeah celebs, the real world.....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:05 PM
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This is not how women’s attraction works. This is how everyone's attraction works. Young women think they are ugly and awkward and have incredibly low confidence in their looks and datability all the time, And they date shitty men because they think they are not worth more, this is why you see people saying "she has low self esteem" in these situations. yet always strongly prefer hot men over ugly fat old men. Everyone prefers "hot" people over ugly people. What you don't get is that there is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:56 PM
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Why do you argue to claim women’s desire for men needs to shift and accommodate, when you claim your own never will? I didn't claim mine never will because I know mine has over the years. If women are required to find attraction to men they are not attracted to, then men too should try to find attraction in men they are not attracted to. You need to realize that women's attraction levels are linked to their own sense of worth, in today's world most women think they are higher on the attractivene…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:30 PM
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Attraction isn't set in stone. It shifts and changes and is linked to your own sense of self.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:58 PM
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It's not a free market, men are not allowed to flex their power nature gave them (for good reason) but women are. So when you have one side that is being hamstrung you will get complaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:00 PM
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Desperate people do desperate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:56 PM
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Does your body and mind scream at you for that million dollars?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:42 PM
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Doesn't matter you're still parreting the same excuse the yanks do and it has been shown that they are not the reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:19 PM
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Americans always think its "costs" or whatever and don't realize we have all that in europe and we are no better off on birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:13 PM
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"all TRP men here say they are not like X" then calls TRP like X. You can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:18 PM
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Your error seems to be thinking they are thought leaders for TRP when they are in fact thought leaders for incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 06:47 PM
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Red pill males on PPD all the time talk about how women have it easier dating - because we get a few more matches than they do. But what if all of them are low quality? For example: 1, Its not a "few" its a lot more. 2, No way they are all poor options unless your standards are unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 06:52 AM
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Also look at nature, male animals do not spend 20 minutes fucking a female they are done in a very short time period. Nature has some weird shit up it's sleeve. The male pigs orgasm lasts on average 30 mins and can last for upto 90 mins
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:11 PM
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Yeah, that's why I said it begs the question. Maybe the age gap difference is caused by other age groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:26 PM
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I didn't mean it like that, they are the only options. What I meant was more their attitudes. And it's interesting there is a 10% difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:10 PM
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So wouldn't that beg the question , what are the other 50% of women upto then and now?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:59 PM
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ask them how is it possible for women to have low n count but expected to put out for them on the first date and watch them seeth. Thats young trads, they are looking for marriage, I'm old RP and couldn't give a shit about N because I'm not looking for LTR. press them enough and they'll just flat out say "i want her to bend the rules for me and only me" as if that make sense. Makes perfect sense, they want to be so desirable that a woman will break her rules for him like so many women do for ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:59 PM
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2/3 of those surveyed on here class as middle/uppermiddle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:20 PM
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Not a lot you can do about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:20 PM
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Not as hard as trying to get casual. Women have different hardships, they have to try and dodge the men just looking to use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:49 PM
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Men have to work more for sex but women want relationships too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:36 PM
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They don't find the men who find them attractive as attractive because they view themselves as more attractive than they are. Plenty of "unattractive" women are with "unattractive" men because they have a solid grasp of their own market value. How many times have you heard of an attractive woman who is with some unattractive man because she has low self esteem? Attraction is based on our own perception of ourselves, the unattractive but egotistical guy who thinks hes gods gift but gets nothing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:51 PM
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Is that due to intelligence differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:43 AM
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He thinks like that because its generally true. Yes women have always liked hot guys and been picky to a degree, with the invention of the internet it has been turned up to 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:42 AM
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I suppose the first thing is women need to accept there is a mate value system in place. Then they need to be honest with themselves where they fall on it. For you I would ask what don't you like about most people?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:35 AM
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That’s not changing. Wouldn't be sure of that if the orange buffoon gets in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:16 PM
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My question is what do you expect women to do. Some introspection. Date men they don't like? This is always said around here but people don't seem to realise that attraction isn't static and is affected by your own perceptions due to your environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:12 PM
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So any woman 40+ is not going to be on the radar of the vast majority of men that age for a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:46 AM
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What is the target demographic of men you are talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:25 AM
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You clearly don't know what "baggage" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:20 AM
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It has nothing to do with it accept they have no other intelligent reply to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:09 PM
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RP males like traditional women, right? Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 05:51 PM
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I see it's time for the daily crazy from flower.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:57 PM
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So you think that excuses you to not hold them accountable, I don't need to because society will do it for me. but only people in places like this will hold her accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:20 PM
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Because society will hold that man accountable while only people in spaces like this will try and hold her accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:55 PM
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Sure, but what's that got to do with the conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:20 PM
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She wouldn't. But there is no test for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:55 PM
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Why do you need assurance when you’re the only one fucking the woman and she tells you youre the only one who creampied her? Because women lie? women cheat you know, even when married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:36 PM
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He wouldn't, but why would you be friends with them unless you are like them? But why go straight to the extreme, there is plenty of normal men in friendzones who would make a good BF.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:15 PM
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While it was better before 2008 it was still lopsided because of how men and women behave. The changes were brought on first by the invention and proliferation of social media and OLD giving women access to far more men than they would ever be able to have access to before and then secondly womens hypergamous nature to take advantage of this new system to up their requirements. The third effect this has had is people are less social nowadays, when I was a young man you had to go out to meet wome…
/r/MensRights23/07/24 04:33 PM
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Link 1, What are you trying to prove with that? it shows that those who are put in the position to pursue report less pickiness, yet men outscore women in all the categories. Link 2, Did you read it? it looks at the variability of sexual desire over time, not who has the stronger drive. Mens drive is more constant than womens which is affected by her situation. Link 3, you definitely didn't read this one, this was bunk when it was posted and did the rounds by feminists who also didn't read it as…
/r/MensRights23/07/24 07:32 AM
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Worldwide, gender is 50/50, Irrelevant because we are talking about dating IE younger people and there are more men than women at younger ages. In western economies, women, if we remove the slim top 10th percentile of earners from both genders, women far outearn men Wrong, men out earn women. Women & men ACTUALLY share nearly identical sex drives, and contraception eliminates risk from one side at the base level wrong again, men have a higher sex drive (a drive is something inherent in you to pu…
/r/MensRights22/07/24 06:38 PM
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"their parenting skills suck". This. Lots of parents have no clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:25 PM
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Not as bad as average can Average v median
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:44 PM
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Yes they are not the same, but average is skewed by the outliers while the median is not and gives a better picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:24 PM
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The average salary for men in the us is like 45K the average salary for women is around 30K. Full time median is M=63k F=53k FYI
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:12 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1733152/ a 1-2% rates seems likely Not just years, it would be almost a decade just to get over a million worldwide. Yes at that very conservative rate it would take nearly a decade and? that's still millions of men currently alive who have suffered it, if it is 1-2% it is millions of men a year. There's societal costs to a lot of things the government stays out of. Why should this be any different? Because we should be trying to fix as much as possib…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:39 PM
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Yes. I really hope you didn't just assume that was true without any kind of data to back it up because that would be weird. Plenty of times people have posted the stats about (some single digit rate) it, if we drop it down to 0.1% of births per year that will add up over the years to millions of men, you are reaching if you think this isn't a problem. I'm speaking to something specific, you're talking vaguely about something subjective. You need to narrow it down if you want to argue that the go…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:32 PM
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First off do you have a source for this? Source? you doubting there have been millions of men all around the world who have suffered this indignity? the government has no ground to ensure men have a reason to trust their wives or vice versa. Never said they did, but they have a duty of care over it's citizens. I could just as easily say the government should mandate social workers to visit every married couple once a month to see if there's any domestic violence because there's millions of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:04 PM
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Why does it need to be mandatory? Because there are millions of men who 100% trust their wife that shouldn't have. When you are married or in a LTR there is a level of trust that you don't even think this person would do something like this so people don't bother. Make it mandatory when the child is born with all the other tests they do and its done.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:27 PM
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You may have pointed out it was an advert for work purposes, but I was pointing out that the substance of the advert is poor, not that it didn't count as work. Just because you are talking about one aspect of something doesn't mean others can't point out another aspect of it, this is how conversations work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:52 PM
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I replied to that comment with It's a very poor advert then. At no point have I made comment about if it is fun or work. i was criticizing how it is a poor advert.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:43 PM
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That link gives me a certification error but is it a link to where you said https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9Mb4_LK5kZ/ This is a skincare advertisement. Not just fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:37 PM
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At no point have I said it's not work so I don't know why you're banging on about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:15 PM
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Hopefully it gets approved as sounds better than this garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:13 PM
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The problem here is the word "dream" it isn't supposed to be your dream man the op just copied the same mistake windmill did yesterday with her post. The whole thing is pointless tbh, a better way of doing this would be to create a list for men and one for women where average is 0 points and you go up/down in points as you move away from that average. Then you can say to people to find their points from their sex list and then they have that many points to build their equivalent partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:57 PM
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Yes and the average is higher than 32k
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:42 PM
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lol yeah that would be unlikely. but if you pick 8 baby mamas you could then pick him to have 1m net worth to balance it. If you wanted to be a gold digger you could pick, Short +1 Obese: +2 8 baby mama +5 Eats glue: +4 Socially awkward +3 Slightly older than you +1 Got hit in the face with a truck: +4 =20 + original 5 = 25, that means you could then pick the 50m net worth and just spend all his money :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:42 PM
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Questions like this (and the one for men yesterday) tend to be shit. The point though is that if you pick the 8 baby mamas one you get the points to spend on the other better things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:25 AM
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32k is for newly qualified brickies, with some experience 40k is easy. Brick layers are paid based on their ability to lay 1000 bricks and can get paid between £650-£1750 per 1000 https://www.checkatrade.com/blog/trade/grow-business/how-much-do-bricklayers-earn/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:22 AM
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Paperclip? What was that supposed to be? What about net worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:14 AM
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You have 5 points in your initial budget. You can have excess points at the end, but you cannot have a negative balance. You need to do it within the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:41 AM
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Ok, now let’s do it properly: then proceeds to not do it properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:32 AM
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and it brought a bunch of eyes onto a business many haven’t heard of. And most people who watch that video still wont know what the fuck its for, as the only bit is an insta handle. The vast majority of people who see this will scroll on by after watching it because there is no grab, they are missing the last panel of the skit to make it effective. I say this as someone who owns an advertising business.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:44 AM
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Whether I like or not doesn't matter, it's still a poor advert from an advertising perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:33 AM
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It's a very poor advert then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:18 AM
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I suspect the Gaurdian are doing their usual thing of mis representing data (hence they don't link it). In 2016 men earn't more than women in all age groups (Go to section 10) Your article states "PA analysed the comparative earnings of men and women between 2006 and 2013." I suspect the word "comparative" is doing some heavy lifting here in that they have pulled only certain stats to get the result they wanted, like the american one did when they declared "young women now out earn young men" an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:10 PM
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An old article. https://www.forbes.com/uk/advisor/business/average-uk-salary-by-age/ Men earn more at all ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:32 PM
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In the uk the average teacher wage is £35k while a bricky is £52k
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:25 PM
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Men know what it's like for women. You have a lot of chaff to shift through and the higher your bar is for looks the more chaff you are going to get. But you have shown how easy it is for women to get matches (you will see the opposite when you do one for your BF) So half want casual straight up and lets say half of whats left is lying, that leaves a lot of guys still for you to date. This is why men say women have it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:09 PM
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Marriage is different from both an ltr and fwb Yes that is why we don't need anything else to seperate it as if you are in a marriage then there is no need for you to have the option to get out of being a parent as a man. You're proposing making irrational legislation that affects all fertile women, but yet the second a fertile woman says "I'd just nope tf out" it's wrong because it doesn't support your narrative. What I said isn't unreasonable either, there would be a fair few women who would t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:59 PM
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You calling out the incels? Most men care about looks to a certain extent (and weight is about looks) On a thread you explicitly say looks matter, now it’s “well of course looks matter… but it matters more to women. Duh!” I didn't say that, how about you learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:51 PM
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Okay draft me some legislation that makes a fair but firm line between an ltr and long term fwb There is no need to seperate them we have marriage. Never said it was, I made one comment about women in relationships to which you get offended because you personally want to see every woman as a cheap slut. lol, I didn't get offended I was having a conversation about the general way it can be sorted and you had to go and bring yourself into it, and I don't see all women as cheap sluts, how about you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:57 AM
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You can't have separate laws for people who are married vs ltrs vs casual sex. Of course you can. My last comment was in regards to what I would do. It's not possible to get pregnant if you're not having sex and I wouldn't be having sex outside of a relationship This whole thing isn't just about you. If you don't want an accidental pregnancy with someone you can just not have sex with them. Much easier than putting stupid overly complex laws in place. People like to fuck, they will fuck. so laws…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:08 AM
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in the real world, a woman won’t date guys with such obvious red flags. Josh has no problem getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:44 AM
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Honestly if by some madness a law that put preference on an opt out for a man in an established relationship Why are you only thinking in terms of an "established relationships"? There are lots of things that would need to be sorted for this kind of thing to work, for instance if you are married then you don't have this option of opting out. Most of this is about casual where a woman gets pregnant by accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:30 AM
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Under any law that gave the man an option to opt out women would be wanting assurances if he says he will stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:55 AM
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The contract is a point against your "men will say they want to be a parent but then don't" concern. so it is the women enforcing the signing of the contract not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:48 AM
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Where have men said they don't care about looks? The argument made is that women care more about looks than they admit. Everyone knows men care about looks, that's why there is a multi billion dollar industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:44 AM
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The vast vast majority of sex doesn't lead to a ruined life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:35 AM
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Doesn't make it less true that people should be taking responsibility for the consequences of their actions. And the first port of call on the responsibility ship is who you choose to fuck. Come on bud, you really can't see the parallel between an argument of did he really agree to be a parent and did she really consent to sex? Consenting to sex is not the same as being responsible for another human, in the scenario it's about guaranteeing the man takes his responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:25 AM
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Yes, abortion should be rare. Ideally it would be but that isn't the case. Should women also have to sign a contract in order to agree to sex? why would she need to?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:12 AM
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Men take the risk of becoming a parent when they have sex, just like women do. That is the same argument people use against abortion. Most women find out they are pregnant later than 5 weeks and it's mostly women who are trying to get pregnant who find out early, it's not particularly uncommon for women to find out around or even after the 10 week mark. So if she has to give the farther 12 weeks to decide after finding out herself at 10 weeks she is unable to have an abortion in some places (idk…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:06 AM
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You can't make someone happy all the time. Happiness isn't a permanent state. If you are only together because they make you "happy" the happiness will wear off and you will break up, you need something more underlying the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:30 PM
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It seems more likely to me that Reddit was getting ready to ban the sub No it doesn't, that sub was not under any type of threat until the mod wanted to make money from it. why else would they kill their revenue source by ending the community side of the subreddit? It wasn't killing their revenue source, it was getting people who were being scared into believing the sub would get shut down and so "quick quick come here look we can keep this going, oh and if you want to help us please sub to our …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:01 PM
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I don’t think this is true, because I don’t think there is a conspiracy between the FDS mods and the admins. You have shown no evidence that there was such a conspiracy. There is no other reason to remove all them posts at the exact time they are trying to go to their own website when it appears they don't break the supposed content breach. I don’t think this policy makes sense, people can obviously say fairly vile things about men as a group and removing that content should be part of their pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:33 PM
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How would a mod get Reddit to remove posts? “Removed by Reddit” only appears if an admin removes a post. Lots of these mods are mods of other subs/have alt accounts/have friends in reddit mods structure, I can't see how they would be removed by reddit as they wouldn't be against the TOS for linking to a external site (still plenty up after all) Edit: It clearly was under threat before, the mods had a massive chip on their shoulder about admins, which only appears after the admins threaten mods. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:26 PM
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I smell a rat. All them posts are links to their podcast and posted by the same person who has everything else currently still up and yet they were removed for a content policy infringement and all around the same time. That sub (before the monetisation started) was just as toxic as after and was under no threat before. Me thinks this mod was trying to stir up shit to make it look like they were under threat to push things to the website (why would people go pay when they can get it for free?) T…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:59 PM
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Yes I saw your link, lots of subs get things removed by reddit, this does not mean the whole sub is under threat (lots get removed from this sub but it isn't under threat) As it was deleted I can't see why it was removed but from the comments it might be they called for him to remove himself from the gene pool which is deffo going to get removed from reddit if reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:29 PM
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Ok 2 years (time sure flies) Still wasn't under actual threat from reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:19 PM
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Admins banned some subs which freaked them out and they went into conspiratorial rants about how their sub was threatened by the woman-hating admins Just because they felt threatened doesn't mean they were. That was 4 years ago and they only went to their new home a year ago. The truth is they were never under threat from reddit as reddit does not see any shit talk of men a problem. What are you trying to say with your edit link? Brigading is against the reddit TOS.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:57 PM
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No it wasn't. It was always about trying to monetise the user base. Reddit didn't give a shit about any reports on that sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:24 PM
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That's because they have taken it off reddit to their own website to try and make money off it. All the posts left are adverts to their website and patreon. Reddit still never banned or quarantined it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:16 PM
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You are not obligated to feed a starving person or house a homeless person either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:25 PM
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if you google "majority of women over 30 will be single and childless by 20XX" you see all the results from all over the net say the same thing 45% will be. You sure guys say "the majority" or you making stuff up?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:22 PM
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Still to demonstrate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 08:32 AM
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Typical BP BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:23 PM
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HAHAHA you have nothing. Of course its about women as its all about men's sexual strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:42 PM
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LMAO. A Guardian article by some numpty calling them "boys". RP was started by men, men who had gone through the meat grinder. This guy has no masculinity, "And then you’re taking your daughters to the science center and a gorgeous woman walks by, and you look at your friend, and your friend looks at you, and you don’t have to say a thing. I’m not saying this is the way it should be. Frankly, it’s humiliating for everybody involved." I can feel the simpyness in him through how he writes. But whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:17 PM
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Demonstrate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:30 PM
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LOL, it's not about controlling women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:26 PM
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It is reality. It isn't based on a film. You really should learn RP if you want to argue about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:48 PM
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It's not delusional when it's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:48 AM
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LOL. No they didn't. They didn't start to talk about it being an allegory until over a year after its release (and why would they as they ripped the story from elsewhere).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:15 AM
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I suggest you do. The whole story was ripped mostly from the invisibles and other works, hell total recall used the "pill" idea 9 years before it. There is nothing trans about it (if they wanted to represent trans they would have had a character be male in the matrix and female in the real world or visa versa)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:03 AM
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It was. Listen to what the directors said about it. A year after it came out when others had suggested it could have been. but living your life by some secret code is delusional It's not a secret code.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:00 AM
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It is real as it has been made real. The film isn't unique and is based on other works mostly the invisibles. It wasn't based or about trans either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:28 AM
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Whats the lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:46 AM
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If a woman can smash more than five guys and is seen as non committal, likely to cheat, and likely has BPD- what makes a “promiscuous” man not likely to be the same ? Evolution. Men and women are not the same, we look for different things and what are determined as valuable assets in our mate choice are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:34 AM
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I'm not saying it's 60/40 most of the time in mens favour. I am saying there will be a significant number where the man earns more than 10% of his wife's wage (beyond this you are getting out of the egalitarian range) It could be anything but we don't know because they have lumped all the data together as "egalitarian"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:52 PM
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See my other reply about data.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:50 PM
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But it goes both ways. In some of these 59/41 couples the wife is the higher earner. Yes but I bet there are more men than women in that set. And the more I think about it it might have been even less of a difference if the numbers were averaged out. The average should be similar if the data is not being shown in a dishonest way, that is why I would like to see the average because if you get a big difference between average and median in a data set that already has narrow parameters then you kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:42 PM
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Generally median is what is used for salaries because it is less likely to be thrown off by extremes. But why would it be an issue for this situation? Because it is the extremes we are interested in, those at the far end that are on the cusp but actually are not egalitarian. 1.5 is too much, I can create a data set that gets women to 60k and men to 62k that is skewed to men earning more than women in each couple by a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:59 PM
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Generally median is what is used for salaries because it is less likely to be thrown off by extremes. But why would it be an issue for this situation? Because it is the extremes we are interested in, those at the far end that are on the cusp but actually are not egalitarian. 1.5 is too much, I can create a data set that gets women to 60k and men to 62k that is skewed to men earning more than women in each couple by a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:59 PM
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Wait whose lumping all into the same category? And what does that have to do with the subset of “egalitarian couples”? Lumping those couples where the difference is 59/41 with those that are 51/49, the former is not egalitarian. We have the data. It shows the income for wives in these unions vs husbands in these unions. You’re right that men earn more in these unions but not by much. Wives earn 97% what their husbands earn in egalitarian unions We have median data, that doesn't tell you exactly …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:28 PM
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Median when doing something like this can skew the results so that you can hide data. median takes the middle number so you can skew the results to make it look better than it is for women if the average puts them too low (and inversely for men make it look worse)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:13 PM
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My assumption is that in most couples the man earns more and this is from the fact that on average men do earn more than women. Lumping all the into the same category allows them to hide plenty of couples where the man earns a significant amount more than the woman. And your 35k v 65k shows that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 06:33 PM
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What methodology and terminology would you use? I would have broken it down to 5% increments to created a graph so that you could show how the men or woman earns more and by how much in the egalitarian section rather than lumping it all together where you have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 06:28 PM
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Again that is median. The presumption that the man earns more is because more often the man does earn more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 06:24 PM
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It’s almost like there’s a reason they chose the 40%-60% range… Exactly, so talking about those at the 200k range is pointless. If they lost 40% of their income long term it would absolutely change their lifestyle and financial choices. Losing 40% of 200k+ income should have a lot less impact than losing 40% of sub 100k And the point of Pew measuring this at all is to track the growing share of marriages in which both spouses seriously work, not ones where the husband works a 9-5 and the wife is…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:13 PM
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We are discussing income only.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:10 PM
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That is the median not the average (though I wonder what the average is and how far it is different) That is a very close salary especially compared to the general average of wives making 35k compared to husbands 65k on average. Iss that median or average?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:09 PM
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It can have an effect at different levels but 40-60 is the average. Your example wouldn't make a difference at them earning levels unless they were spending all they make which is bad financial judgment. The point of the word egalitarian is "equal" and so you need to be earning about the same to be considered it, otherwise someone is putting more money into a relationship than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:48 PM
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And if I took 60% of yours who would be hurting more? Both are shit but one is worse than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:09 PM
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You are going to be in bigger trouble if the 60 person lose their job than the 40 one. Remember this is about being considered egalitarian which means to be roughly equal and earning 50% more is not that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:36 PM
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Well it's clearly BS, just because some research entity say its so doesn't mean it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:30 PM
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taking the rejection and analysing/complaining about it afterwards are 2 different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:29 PM
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So someone earning 50% more than the other is considered about the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:53 PM
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We are talking about earnings though and what is to be considered an egalitarian setup regarding earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:55 AM
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Which goes back to my first point, if they’re both working around 40 hours a week (as most do), why does most of the housework fall on women just because they earn less? Why should a man be paying more into a relationship? it is not true that paid/unpaid work added up, men do more, Yes they do, time use survey shows it. we also consistently see men having more weekly free leisure time than women Because what is considered free time is different and men are more efficient at things because men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:26 AM
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The point of the OP is only about when the men earn more so women who earn more are not in this argument. Only a small amount of women outearn their partner (and most of them are because he is ill/disabled) When all working (paid/unpaid) is added up men do about an hour more a week, so yes men do their fair share. Not only this but a study (wish I had saved it) showed both men and women over estimate how much time they spend on chores (both about 50%) and so if you take this into account, becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:50 AM
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Nope, my reading comprehension is just fine. He didn't take the rejection badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 06:48 AM
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What? a 60/40 split is 50% more (40k - 60k is the higher earner earning 50% more)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 06:46 AM
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You got depression from feeling disrespected? Who disrespected you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:15 PM
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That is not taking the rejection badly. Being disappointed or suspicious of being used (depending on the ending and future possibility) is not taking it badly. Again learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:14 PM
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