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Three is a good number - it tells you everything you need to know.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/08/21 08:09 AM
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She looks like a guy in drag.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/05/21 11:53 PM
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It should be mandatory for any woman claiming to have more than one kid to disclose how many babydaddies they represent.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/05/21 11:51 PM
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Good point - the ring finger seems to be longer than the index finger, which suggests masculinisation. Also notice how fat the index finger is compared to the others (particularly toward the bottom).
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/04/21 09:19 AM
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100 $ I can hire two young Romanian prostitutes with tits the size of my head God damn that's a good deal. Just saying.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/21 03:37 PM
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career or the cock carousel "Or"?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/21 05:07 PM
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Can you guess where I'm from originally? Given that you're a single mother, I'm guessing the answer is "the ghetto"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/01/21 08:35 AM
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I'd have to say the problem is lack of sexual attraction, not past trauma. This is precisely the reason why I brush off female claims of "trauma", "abuse", etc, etc - they're usually cover stories for lack of sexual arousal.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/21 07:39 PM
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It's heartwarming posts like this that keep me coming back here. From the first post: All I'm looking for is a guy who is honest, loyal, respectful and supportive. First, if you actually did want a guy like this, you would have found one by now. If you're 42yo, you've had a quarter-century to find a man. Second, everyone and their dog knows full well that if you actually did find someone like this, you either wouldn't be interested, or would get bored and cheat and/or dump him very quickly.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/21 08:59 AM
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The shoe is well and truly on the other foot now. Not really. A woman who gets platezoned is still getting sex from a high-status guy. A guy who gets friendzoned is getting nothing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/21 05:37 PM
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Where have all the cowboys gone??? The song is, depending on your interpretation, either a critique of women's unrealistic standards for men or a woman complaining about being ignored by her husband (inter maxima alia; the song admits to multiple interpretations). I don't think she quite thought the remark through.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/20 08:14 AM
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They all have, um, how do I put this diplomatically... distinctly "British" faces. Some of these complaints are ridiculous: ‘The men out there are delusional. I went out with a guy who lied about his age, saying he was 47 when he was 50, who then had the gall to tell me he wanted a younger woman so he, as he put it, “could breed”. Oh no! He wants to have a kid! That's terrible! And this is just bizarre: Men’s relationships frequently overlap; they won’t leave one partner until they find another,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/12/20 09:27 AM
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I didn't know there were any social media sites that tell you who visited your page. I don't internet, so can someone elaborate as to whether this is true?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/12/20 08:05 AM
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The guy had two full sleeve tattoos, so he's going to be attracting the sort of low-rent women who like that sort of thing. Hence his experiment is probably not a statistically random sample of women on online dating (although we already know women on online dating are mostly trash).
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/12/20 04:42 PM
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If you look up the tweet, you find the author is "Director of Cybersecurity @EFF" and "Tech advisor at @freedomofpress". Apparently she's all for tech freedom and freedom of the press - except for this, for some unexplained reason.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/12/20 03:58 AM
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It's not like a shadow cabal was pulling every string but groups of similar thinkers and similar backgrounds tend to share the same dislikes ESR coined the term "prospiracy" for precisely this.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/12/20 03:18 AM
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I live in Australia. The "people" here are worthless. I have no idea why anyone thinks "#2 THE PEOPLE" is a pro of living here.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/12/20 02:56 AM
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The problem isn't just, or even primarily, that they're infantilising women - the problem is that they're implying women are the victims of promiscuity, when we all know women encourage and reward it (if they didn't, there wouldn't be any such thing as promiscuity, for straight people at least). At any rate, there's no arguing with the fact that as female power rises, promiscuity rises, and as female power falls, promiscuity falls. History is very clear on this point.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/20 03:59 PM
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Well, the time for any of them was either ~1 decade ago, or almost 4 decades ago. ... If I wasn't good enough for her then, what did she expect now? This. "If they wanted me, the time to have gotten me was n decade(s) ago."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/20 03:54 PM
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Is one gender more likely to know their “league” in dating than the other? Good question. Is it the sex that has to do all the approaching and deal with endless rejection, or the sex who doesn't figure out until their thirties that being able to get sex with a guy of a certain level doesn't mean you can marry a guy of that level? Gorsh, I guess we'll never figure out the answer to this one. “Women know where they stand on dating totem pole more than men. They are much more likely to know their l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 01:49 PM
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Basically, it's because in modern western culture, it's considered polite and good manners to support female promiscuity (and rude and bad manners to oppose it). So when you meet people IRL, they'll smile and nod and tell you that it's a good thing for women to be "experienced", and hence a bad thing to not be so. This is just politeness, though; everyone is disgusted by female promiscuity (although women are very favourably disposed toward male promiscuity). Online, where people are pseudonymou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 01:40 PM
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The problem here is your midwitted cluelessness about the term "hypergamy" (to be fair, most people who use the term can't use it properly either, so you're not alone). "Hypergamy" doesn't mean "getting the best deal you can" or "maximising your options". "Hypergamy" means something like "marrying up" or "statusosexual". This is why men aren't "hypergamous": because they don't care what their woman's social status is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 08:37 AM
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I was idly wondering how many babydaddies she has (my inner cynic is guessing at least two)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/12/20 07:45 AM
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Scrolled down to see if anyone else was wondering about that.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/12/20 07:44 AM
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FDS is hilarious - it's like the ghetto hood rat version of RPW.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/12/19 10:00 AM
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I remember the guy, he was good. I think I have a photo of him somewhere
/r/TheRedPill27/04/19 09:56 PM
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In other words, "intelligence" means knowing when to avoid talking about anything intelligent. Got it. (Why is it so difficult to admit women don't like intelligent men? Why do supposedly "red pill" guys keep inventing elaborate rationales to pretend that, no, really, women REALLY like "intelligent" guys, when it's statistically clear that women avoid high-IQ men?)
/r/TheRedPill13/03/19 10:57 PM
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All you've done there is redefine "intelligence" to mean something akin to "emotional intelligence" or "social intelligence". Women avoid high-IQ men, as statistics show.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/19 10:54 PM
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Vasalgel is a scam. (They've been plugging it for nearly a decade and they still have nothing to show for it - if that's not a scam, then what is?)
/r/askTRP14/01/19 03:17 AM
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Because they look trashy (duh - what a stupid question).
/r/askTRP05/01/19 11:07 AM
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Lustig is too pro-fruit to be considered reliable.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/18 06:48 PM
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I just read the entire wiki entry on him Wow, what could possibly go wrong It seems that his research has more or less been validated Hilarious. Give yourself an uppercut
/r/TheRedPill06/09/18 06:47 PM
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Keys doesn't get anywhere near enough shit. He should be dug up and hung in chains.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/18 06:45 PM
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I don’t like blow jobs because they feel like the submissive act to me nothing says "dominant" quite like having a dick in your mouth
/r/askTRP26/08/18 03:34 PM
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"I used to be. What can I help you with?"
/r/askTRP21/07/18 04:54 AM
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Indeed. I don't even read TRP anymore; I just read Whisper's comments, which is how I found this post.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/18 08:06 PM
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Great post. One quibble: They're not offering to save society for you. They're demanding you save it for their kids. By "kids", I would have said "daughters". I've never seen a tradcon care about sons.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/18 07:49 PM
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Rollo answered this question a while ago: On many an occasion I’ve fielded the question, “Well Rollo, if there’s a Feminine Imperative, there must be a Masculine Imperative.” People don’t usually like the answer, but from a strictly evolutionary and biological perspective, the Masculine (or male) Imperative is Unlimited Access to Unlimited Sexuality.
/r/RedPillWomen09/06/18 06:17 AM
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They do matter, in the sense that higher is better, ie. more appealing to women. (When I saw the title of the post my first thought was to wonder if the guy's count wasn't high enough.)
/r/RedPillWomen05/06/18 09:18 AM
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Commerce and sex are only barely tolerated individually; combined, the objections are too much. The real reason why prostitution is banned is because it's competition. It really is no more complicated that that. It's banned because women want it banned (I really wish someone like Rollo would give this the once-over, if he hasn't already). For further elaboration, see this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:58 PM
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So after painstakingly searching the Internet, I finally found a PDF of the study he referenced. Sheesh, it was on the Wayback Machine, hope you didn't waste too much time
/r/TheRedPill16/01/18 09:53 PM
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The point is that women wanted these rules, now they should get soundly fucked by them.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/18 04:56 PM
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This was probably scripted Have you asked yourself why they might have done that?
/r/TheRedPill11/01/18 08:05 AM
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I always thought "lesbian trapped in a man's body" was just a punchline.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/18 08:02 AM
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Google Images reverse search reveals that the article is this: http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php Virginity in women tells us their ability to resist offers of sex, virginity in men tells us their ability to get sex. So the high probability of virginity for high-IQ women tells us that high-IQ women are better at resisting offers of sex; the high probability of virginity for high-IQ men tells us that high-IQ men are poor at attracting women for sex (assuming sex dri…
/r/TheRedPill10/01/18 06:25 PM
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That, more or less, has always been my thinking on the subject: game wasn't invented by stupid guys, so clearly intelligence is an advantage in picking up women. The value of intelligence when it comes to game is in using it to figure out what women want and how to give it to them. Intelligence helps you figure out women the same way it helps you figure out anything else. The value of intelligence is not in women being sexually aroused or otherwise attracted to intelligence, which is the blue-pi…
/r/TheRedPill10/01/18 05:26 AM
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Making yourself desirable for women doesn't involve inventing anything. It mostly involves getting a criminal record and spending a lot of time at the gym. If anything, invention shows intelligence, which is a statistically-demonstrated woman repellant.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/18 08:33 PM
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The ideologies can definitely coexist How? Liberalism is egalitarian (could anyone construct a version that isn't?), RP is definitely not egalitarian.
/r/askTRP21/12/17 10:19 PM
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To be blunt, the answer is no. You can't actually seriously believe all that egalitarian progressive bullshit and simultaneously believe RP principles. You can have liberal stated preference (ie. mouthing progressive platitudes), but not liberal revealed preference, no. TRP is a revealed preference against egalitarian norms - and if you're anti-egalitarian, you can't seriously call yourself "liberal" in any meaningful sense.
/r/askTRP21/12/17 10:18 PM
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"Net Neutrality" has nothing to do with internet censorship. Christ, the amount of bullshit you retards believe is shocking.
/r/TheRedPill02/12/17 10:12 AM
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But pussy has no alternative uses. Its only use, for men, is to satiate the sex drive. And the male sex drive has no alternative fulfillments. It's chicks or nothing. So the rules of economics don't apply. At the risk of nitpicking: if vaginas have no alternative uses (ie. the opportunity cost of a vagina is zero), that means that all income derived from vagina-having is economic rent (economic rent being calculated as the difference between the best and second-best offers for a factor). So the …
/r/TheRedPill19/11/17 04:53 PM
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Because women attack and shame that which goes against their gynocentric best interests, and they ignore the facts while doing so. Not committing to women? Not marrying them? Having casual sex? Not providing for women? SEXIST! For example, women will whine incessantly about how supposedly unjust marriage is to women - but if you were to suggest that men should (say) erect billboards ordering men to stop oppressing women with marriage, women would lose their shit.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/17 04:12 PM
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Apparently a lot of the business at Swiss DNA paternity labs comes from France and Germany, where casual paternity testing is banned.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/17 04:55 PM
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A female’s right to date/sleep with whoever she pleases without being shamed or judged (if she wants to) Nope. You don't get to decide what I think or say about you. If you're free to do what you like, then I'm free to say and think whatever I like about it.
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/17 06:00 AM
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Spolsky is a shit-stabber, so his motive probably isn't conventional white-knighting. The gay motive for SJW behaviour strikes me as just being mutual support from one SJW client demographic (fags) to another ("women in tech", ie. women trying to colonise male spaces). At least, that's the simplest explanation that occurs to me.
/r/TheRedPill06/10/17 05:21 PM
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Spolsky is a literal fag, so a conventional beta-supplication explanation probably doesn't work. He was a big Obama supporter back in the day and from his surname I'm guessing he's Jewish, so there's another SJW red flag. He cofounded Stackoverflow, I think.
/r/TheRedPill06/10/17 05:18 PM
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There's an old joke that goes something like "economists have predicted ten of the last three recessions." Anyway, outlandish economic predictions get more eyeballs. It's clickbait.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/17 08:15 AM
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The bailouts were profitable.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/17 02:33 PM
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Is promiscuity actually rising for men? I find it much easier to believe that male promiscuity is being ground down by ever-widening SMP inequality. Every now and again you see articles that claim that promiscuity among the young is falling (eg. here's one I saw today), but (big surprise) they never provide separate figures for men and women.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/17 11:41 PM
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I don't think you're supposed to put actual numbers into the formula. It's like the Drake equation, it's just to illustrate which variables amplify the output and which variables antagonise each other.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/17 07:45 PM
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Yup. The reason why I asked is because I tried looking there and I couldn't find it either. If you ever come across it again, let me know.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/17 05:45 PM
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It was just revealed about 10 days ago on rscience that companies are intentionally not providing men's contraceptives Do you have a link for this?
/r/TheRedPill09/09/17 06:30 AM
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It'll only change anything if it gets developed - and we all know why it hasn't been developed yet, despite the profusion of potential chemical targets for a male oral contraceptive and huge potential market.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/17 06:27 AM
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It's not that hard to figure out - women are just trying to nag men away from the competition, ie. younger women.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/17 06:24 AM
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A "scab" is a strikebreaker - an interesting admission!
/r/TheRedPill31/08/17 09:24 PM
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Gee, how brave of you to shit talk your competition.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/17 05:53 PM
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And, in every situation, you're paying with your time Yup. A guy who says that a man should never pay for sex is implicitly admitting that the opportunity cost of his time is zero.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/17 05:53 PM
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hookers are the last resort of a man who has given up must be why there's so many high-end escorts
/r/TheRedPill31/08/17 03:04 PM
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A great comment from last year: "Anyway, the lesson that I learned is not that you should neccessarily fuck prostitutes (although I have), but rather that you need to clean your mind of the social stigma AGAINST fucking prostitutes. That socail stigma exists to enslave you." Basically, if you're not into hookers, that's fine, you don't have to do that if it's not your thing. What you should do, though, is purge yourself of the social conditioning (ie. female stigma) against prostitution, which i…
/r/TheRedPill31/08/17 02:47 PM
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New Zealand Here's an HK MP5A3 for sale at the "WORLD'S LARGEST GUN STORE", bet you can't buy that anywhere else
/r/TheRedPill31/08/17 02:41 PM
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The article goes to great length to avoid stating the obvious:as women make it clear they will give it away for free, more and more men realize they would have to be chumps to pay. Huh. I just realised from that comment that paying for a woman on a date is actually a form of economic rent to the woman, because it doesn't change her decision as to whether or not she's going to fuck you.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 06:48 AM
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The practice of a man paying on a heterosexual date has proved more resistant to change than other gendered norms Oh look. The "gendered norms" that benefit women and/or disadvantage men just coincidentally happen to be the ones "more resistant to change". I bet that's just a coincidence (eyes roll out of head)
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 06:46 AM
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We predicted this - eventually, they were going to outlaw pre-emptive defensive measures. Also relevant: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/05/14/legal_group_weighs_radical_expansion_of_sex_crimes_130557.html
/r/TheRedPill23/06/17 07:44 AM
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A plate is a slut. Do not marry a slut. To be fair, she sounds better than the average woman, although that says more about the average woman than about her.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/17 04:42 PM
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Reminds me of Gamergate - that redpilled a huge number of people, and in more or less the same way.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/17 06:13 PM
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It's extremely difficult to get men to take their own side.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/17 06:03 PM
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The difference is that women are only "conservative" about things that transfer rights and privileges to them and transfer obligations and responsibilities to men. As soon as being "conservative" requires something of her, she starts complaining about it.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/17 01:49 AM
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2) is the main reason why. I'm fond of that Youtube video, I've linked it here a few times.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/17 12:29 AM
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The fact that such a revolutionary development - one that's hardly speculative, but has already demonstrated its worth - is deprived of both private and public funding should tell you something. In other words, why does it have a chronic lack of funding?
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 08:01 PM
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Expect it in the next 2-3 years Vasalgel was originally supposed to be out in 2014-15 or so, I don't expect any other male contraceptive effort to do any better.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/17 05:02 PM
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Maybe a huge health benefit, but a huge sexual-strategy disbenefit.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/17 05:00 PM
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Women in my class responded that it should always be women who have the most control Exactly. The "drug companies are blocking male contraception" conspiracy theory is stupid, as nearly all conspiracy theories are. The "women are blocking male contraception" conspiracy theory makes sense, as you just found out for yourself.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/17 04:58 PM
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There is a lot of economic power that will be pushing for its availability. Wasn't this also true 10, 20, 50 years ago?
/r/TheRedPill21/04/17 04:53 PM
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Male contraception isn't being blocked by "drug companies" (why aren't governments stepping into the breach?). It's being blocked by women, who aren't keen on having men break the female monopoly on long-acting reversible contraceptives.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/17 04:52 PM
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So you want to date someone who shares your education level and ambition? Does anyone seriously think women take a guy's education level into account when deciding whether to fuck him? Women only care about "education level" as a proxy for beta/comfort/provision traits, and scoring highly on that is a great way to NOT get laid.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/17 05:00 PM
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Precisely what does this post tell us? You can buy sex for money? And? Why is that worth wasting a post on?
/r/TheRedPill07/04/17 12:57 PM
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It may as well be dead.
/r/MensRights03/04/17 10:26 PM
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You're thinking of the hormonal shot story from ~Nov last year, which is not this. And women didn't come out to "support" it, they came out to mock men about it.
/r/MensRights03/04/17 03:53 PM
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Precisely. It really is not much more complicated than that.
/r/MensRights02/04/17 07:35 PM
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Why are so few feminists speaking out in favour? I think we all know by now that women are never, ever, ever going to support a male contraceptive. The number of women worldwide who aren't violently opposed to a male contraceptive would fit into a phone booth.
/r/MensRights02/04/17 01:00 PM
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All the feminists I've talked with are totally for the male birth control pill. Of course women say that. What were you expecting them to say?
/r/TheRedPill26/03/17 04:35 AM
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Women have been asking for male birth control options Here at TRP, you're not supposed to take women's statements at face value.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/17 06:30 AM
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If a male contraceptive is going to happen anywhere, it's going to happen in the third world or developing countries, Indonesia being a good example. It's not going to happen in the first world, women have too much strategic acumen to allow a male contraceptive to happen and more than enough political power to keep it from ever happening.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/17 08:29 AM
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within the next two years That's plenty of time for female interference to dispatch it to the same graveyard that women have all potential male contraceptives dispatched to.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/17 03:58 AM
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If women are free to be promiscuous, then men are free to think whatever they like about it. What women want is a mind-control regime where women are free to be promiscuous, but men aren't allowed to mentally mark them down for it. Like all feminist "beliefs", it's self-serving.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/17 01:51 PM
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Australia uses it, it doesn't make much difference to the quality of governance. If anything, Australia is worse-run than the other English speaking countries with plurality voting in single-member electorates (UK, US, Canada).
/r/TheRedPill08/02/17 05:33 AM
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Roosh said on Twitter just after the election that he knew some of the guys who would be working at the WH. We need to get Roosh to pass the message on re developing a male contraceptive. This could be huge - if it ever happens, and the landscape of male contraception is so denuded that it looks like there's no alternative to government developing one.
/r/TheRedPill19/01/17 03:27 AM
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And, of course, the racial differences on either side is a drop in the bucket compared to the gulf between men and women. I'm convinced that the reason for the media's constant feigned concern about race differences in sentencing outcomes is simply to distract people from sex differences in sentencing outcomes.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/17 06:52 PM
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how many new pussies will you be able to get when you say you are working in GOOGLE? None. At best - if anything, a technical occupation will be negative for your sexual success, because women are turned off by high-IQ men.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/17 06:56 PM
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Not very high (apparently ~$55k USD, see http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/01/pf/taxes/top-income-tax/).
/r/TheRedPill07/01/17 09:44 PM
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Denmark's top bracket is around there.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/17 06:40 PM
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It blows your mind that women have rigged the law in their own favour?
/r/TheRedPill30/12/16 01:47 PM
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There's always 23andMe - if you get yourself and your kid tested, you can just use the Relative Finder as a makeshift paternity test (and you get a whole bunch of health reports in the bargain).
/r/TheRedPill28/12/16 03:13 PM
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And besides, it is kind of tough/how do you bring up to your girl that you want a paternity test? One of the great mysteries of red pill life is the indecipherable obsession guys have with clearing paternity testing with the woman first. JUST GET THE FUCKING PATERNITY TEST AND STFU ABOUT IT. NO-ONE NEEDS TO FUCKING KNOW ABOUT IT!!! First, do you all agree that every alleged father should get a paternity test? Yes (duh) Second, how can my generally Red Pill friend, who knows and talks about how o…
/r/TheRedPill27/12/16 09:34 PM
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BLM is a protest against the militarised police state known as "USA", Top kek. This is the likely-sounding cover story BLM and their water-carriers (eg. libertarians) tell naive whites. Take it away Akinokure: Although we do have an overgrown police presence that would ideally look more like it did on the Andy Griffith Show, the necessary changes may have to wait for awhile because in the current climate, the main impetus behind "boo police" is anti-white sentiment among blacks. In the minds of …
/r/TheRedPill16/10/16 08:17 AM
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"Smart guys are sexy!" falls into the same category.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 02:20 PM
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Having Male Friends is Sexy But of course - having female "friends" just makes you look like an orbiter.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 06:57 AM
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That should give you a clue as to what "poly" really means: it's just modern code-speak for the subordination of men's interests to women's. If "poly" really just meant "poly", they'd be just fine with harems.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 09:05 AM
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In fact, i'm flabbergasted that people can do that. I have no conceivable understanding of HOW someone can have a glass of wine, a shot and a beer, or whatever then just...stop. How the fuck do they do that? I have to drink until I literally am incapable of drinking anymore. Comments like this make me glad I don't drink.
/r/TheRedPill04/10/16 08:48 PM
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kill off that 70,000 men Sure, we'll start with you.
/r/TheRedPill04/10/16 08:08 PM
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Get Vasigel (male birth control) FDA-approved. That's possibly the only thing less likely to occur than bordellos being legalised.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/16 12:27 PM
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People want what they want, and that is just how it is. Yup. Never fall for the "my preferences are preferences, your preferences are stupid" try-on. Women who whine about being "judged" about their legions of dicks are the first to judge men for not being tall enough, rich enough, tattooed enough, etc.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/16 09:10 PM
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Great post. If you're an American male, you've heard it all concerning college: "Best 4 years of your life". Everybody tells it to you: parents, media, your friends, the internet, and heck even masculine communities to an extent. College is the NEW COOL in American culture. Can confirm. I live in Australia and even here, the OMG UNIVERSITY IS SO MUCH FUN propaganda is so pervasive even my parents subjected me to it. University is a boring, expensive waste of time. Only do if you need to do it fo…
/r/TheRedPill27/09/16 08:11 AM
5

She says she feels "empty", "devastated" stuck photos of her sex parties on the walls of the apartment If she's putting up reminders on the wall, she's not "devastated" in the slightest.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/16 11:21 AM
1

Interesting article indeed - women are already nervously pretending to be pro-Vasalgel (although I doubt that'll stop them from pushing to have it banned).
/r/TheRedPill21/09/16 02:47 PM
1

It's always a man's fault. Women will never blame themselves or feminism for anything. And why would they? Feminism (ie. female sociosexual rentseeking) might have costs, but it delivers economic rents as well. The optimal strategy for women, therefore, is to support feminism (while disavowing any allegiance to feminism, "I'm not a feminist", etc) to get the benefits of it while shifting the costs (and blame) to men.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/16 04:44 AM
3

I really want a year off work As I've pointed out here before, maternity leave has a lot more to do with the leave than with the maternity.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/16 04:40 AM
2

If big pharma were the problem, then government would be researching it. But government isn't researching it. Something else is getting in the way.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/16 04:27 AM
3

Good luck getting a male contraceptive past the FDA.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/16 02:57 AM
4

This sort of low-effort shitposting is why I don't bother reading this shitty forum anymore. Hey everyone, did you know the brands I like are really cool and the brands I don't like are totally lame? Fuck this, and fuck the mods who approve this shit.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/16 04:08 PM
2

You mean the same conservatives who were powerless to stop every other liberal initiative just magically happen to regain their powers when it comes to prostitution? They also fight against abortion if you didn't notice. So why are they so successful at fighting prostitution, and yet so unsuccessful at fighting abortion rights? You have no answer for this.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/16 11:35 AM
2

Abortion was pried open by judicial fiat in the US over 40 years ago (not "recently"). Every other western country is similar. Yet surprisingly (to retards), prostitution is just as illegal as it always was - and again, most western countries are similar. The real reason why prostitution is illegal has nothing to do with the "conservative" (top kek) culture of the US (why did Canada just strengthen its laws against prostitution a few years ago?), and everything to do with women banning competiti…
/r/TheRedPill17/09/16 04:00 AM
40

Why do people get so offended over JOKES? She's not sincerely offended. She's trying to shake them down for something.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/16 10:00 AM
1

I can't parse your comment.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/16 09:55 AM
5

prostitution is cracked down in the US because its an attack on the market There are retards here who still haven't figured this out.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/16 04:07 AM
1

How do you explain why abortion is legal, but prostitution is illegal?
/r/TheRedPill16/09/16 04:06 AM
2

Governments will just do what women want them to do - remember, women are big government's biggest client group - and what women want is for the competition to be banned. No sexbots (we've had threads here on this in the past), no prostitution, no foreign wives, "porn is for losers": no competition, period.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 07:21 AM
2

You should probably mention dutasteride (Avodart) too. Dutasteride takes longer than finasteride to clear from the bloodstream and so it gives a more steady serum profile. Side effects are more or less similar, but pretty rare. The US patent on dutasteride expired in November last year, so generics should be available by now. Useful links: Dutasteride is significantly more powerful than finasteride 0.1 mg dutasteride daily is about as useful as 5mg/day finasteride A comparison between identical …
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 02:41 AM
12

I'm inclined to agree - it's probably just the hamster talking.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/16 02:34 AM
10

Is it really that hard to figure out that women oppose prostitution because it's competition?
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 09:33 PM
41

Women hate prostitution because it's competition, duh. Is there any "red pill" guy who seriously doubts this? (If so, give yourself an uppercut.) Gay men aren't competition and hence their usage of prostitution isn't a threat.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 09:31 PM
1

This sounds a lot more likely. Women are never, ever going to allow competition to be legalised in the US or Canada.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/16 09:58 PM
1

also give it a little time and it will be legal in the same manner in other first world nations. People were probably saying the same thing 20 years ago.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/16 09:58 PM
21

Good post. The refugee crisis in Europe, for example, is just women importing millions of foreign men to increase the supply of alphas. Does anyone really think it's a coincidence that the "refugees" are overwhelmingly young males from violent parts of the world? (Thought experiment: Does anyone really think that Europe would have a "refugee crisis" if there were millions of hot refugee chicks flooding in? Women would have slammed Europe's doors shut long ago if there were so much as a sniff of …
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 08:25 PM
1

Why don't they just repeal their ban on paternity testing? I mean, this is good too, but it strikes me as being at cross-purposes with the ban on paternity testing.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 06:22 PM
11

Good points. Gives me an opportunity to plug this article again: It’s obvious that women want to work rather than procreate, but this is not because (most*) women particularly like working or because they prefer work to marriage and family. It’s not because housework is drudgery, most women who work do something similar to housework in their jobs. The reason women want to work is because working is high status.** The reason women don’t have children is because having children is low status, and …
/r/TheRedPill26/08/16 05:35 AM
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But now that I'm older and wiser, I've noticed that nobody actual believes ultra-liberal ideologies. They just pretend to as some kind of status symbol. Indeed. They're "virtue signals", not "virtue beliefs". Their adaptive use is as status markers.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/16 03:59 PM
10

How do you have a vote to stop a product? You don't need to. These things get blocked behind the scenes. Ever wonder why male contraceptive research never attracts much research or funding? No-one voted on that, either.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/16 09:30 PM
7

Stay the hell out of debt! Dont buy stupid shit, fancy cars, etc. This is the most important advice. I've never figured out why people buy new cars or smartphones - buy one a few years old and save half the price (if not more).
/r/TheRedPill10/08/16 01:11 PM
5

"Sigma" is the RP equivalent of those custom genders SJWs create.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/16 06:54 PM
1

Silicon Valley gives us fag rights and all the other progressive bullshit, but oh no, you can't have a prostitution app. (The astute observer will infer something from this.)
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 06:09 PM
2

Good work. Best of luck with it.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 11:53 AM
19

We need an "Uber for prostitution" app. This one isn't it, from the looks of it. We need to make ordering a hooker to be no bigger a deal than ordering a pizza. Uber has been massively successful in breaking down the taxi cartel - we need to borrow this model to break down the sex cartel.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 09:47 AM
0

Might want to add the Grant Neal case to the list
/r/TheRedPill17/07/16 04:43 PM
1

Most women are not feminists. I don't see what difference it makes. Women can free-ride on the benefits of feminism regardless of self-identification. So the optimal strategy is to harvest the benefits while disclaiming any allegiance to feminism, if asked. If we define "feminism" as "rentseeking behaviour designed to enhance the female sociosexual strategy", then most women are feminists.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/16 01:44 PM
3

https://twitter.com/periodink/status/743538690018807808 "Passing the ERA? Yes. More women in government? Yes. Signing up for draft? No. Not equality #feminism #women #draft"
/r/TheRedPill16/06/16 09:44 PM
2

last time it was used the correct way was WW2 (What could that possibly mean?) But I think that this is the first step in its abolishment. Because once pretty little girls are at risk of being sent off to war more people will care and call for the end of the draft. Women intuitively view the draft as a form of, or at least sign of, male duty to women. They're not going to draft women (regardless of what the law actually says, even if a draft occurs, they're going to find some excuse to not draft…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/16 09:15 PM
8

It'll happen at approximately the same time the US and Canada legalise prostitution and a male contraceptive is released. That is to say, never.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/16 01:06 PM
12

Also, this whole fat acceptance, curvy bullshit is about fat women, not men. This needs to be stressed: "fat acceptance" is for women, not men. Basically, all progressive cultural mores are for women, not men, because "progress" is just the PR cover story for "things women want".
/r/TheRedPill09/06/16 09:54 AM
12

"Equality" is just a motte-and-bailey argument. It's the PR cover story for campaigns to increase female privileges and increase male burdens.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/16 08:09 AM
2

Men are more reluctant these days to get married, so sure enough, the cuntocracy superstate starts defining marriage downward, to the ludicrous extent that in BC, just cohabiting for two years makes you "married", for some indecipherable reason. As usual, this is enabled by women voting in the interests of women, and fathers voting in the interests of their daughters. The rest of us get screwed.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/16 04:22 PM
5

Thanks to the magic of ONLINE DATING! and SOCIAL MEDIA! A woman now: A) Has access to every single eligible male in a 25 mile radius AND B) Can advertise her wares to a GLOBAL marketplace of men, and maybe catch the eye of some wealthy suitor in an exotic location. One of the key achievements of the manosphere is in using economic logic (eg. "SMV", "SMP") to analyse relationships. This above is another insight in that vein: female attractiveness is a factor of production in the sexual economy, a…
/r/TheRedPill31/05/16 01:11 PM
55

"Utility zone" needs to catch on.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/16 06:06 AM
2

You should probably mention dutasteride (Avodart) too. Dutasteride takes longer than finasteride to clear from the bloodstream and so it gives a more steady serum profile. The US patent on dutasteride expired in November last year, so generics should be available by now. Useful links: Dutasteride is significantly more powerful than finasteride 0.1 mg dutasteride daily is about as useful as 5mg/day finasteride A comparison between identical twins - one on 1x 0.5mg dut daily, and the other who did…
/r/TheRedPill24/05/16 07:56 AM
2

pragmatic solution You don't seem to have grasped the power politics of the whole transfag thing. The point of it is we run this place, and we're going to prove it by ordering you to do utterly retarded things like calling a guy in drag a woman.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/16 07:40 AM
3

Putting reproductive control into the hands of men would be a huge political issue. As another user said, I don't fancy my name being on a list as a supporter of such a hot button issue. I agree. Widespread uptake of a male contraceptive would be like widespread uptake of DNA paternity testing. Women aren't going to surrender control of reproduction without a fight. Male contraception (particularly a long-acting, set-and-forget one like Vasalgel) would be a powerful tool against ambush pregnanci…
/r/TheRedPill22/05/16 05:37 AM
19

Trusting women with contraception has proven to be a disaster.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/16 04:17 PM
13

Flying under the media radar is probably a good thing - you don't want women finding out about this, otherwise they'll pull the strings at the FDA to have it banned (we can't have men escaping the spectre of ambush pregnancies, can we).
/r/TheRedPill21/05/16 04:12 PM
11

The Gates Foundation, like all arms of the cuntocracy superstate, is only interested in "family planning" for women. Pre-sales for a medical product sounds like a legal nightmare.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/16 04:11 PM
8

It's not supposed to make money. Good luck getting investors for a non-profit.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/16 04:09 PM
2

The latest email update (~7pm Friday UTC) said it's about 33% there ($41400 out of $127k).
/r/TheRedPill21/05/16 08:48 AM
16

Women know to be be liberal for women's privileges, and conservative for his responsibilities.
/r/TheRedPill16/05/16 03:41 AM
51

Much as a I expected, all the whining by women about maternity leave had much more to do with the "leave" than the "maternity".
/r/TheRedPill15/05/16 02:28 PM
5

Wouldn't a DNA test make more sense?
/r/TheRedPill15/05/16 09:31 AM
6

The social climate as regards male contraception isn't ever going to improve - so it's now or never.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/16 02:49 AM
36

Can this post be pinned? We need to signal boost this. Donate to the war effort, guys!
/r/TheRedPill13/05/16 09:00 PM
10

RISUG is still in trials in India.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/16 09:12 AM
9

Not to worry, I'm sure women will bravely pull the strings behind the scenes at the FDA to have Vasalgel banned.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/16 05:28 AM
4

Not to mention that married men have to make more money, because they now have a giant expense-generator holding them at threatpoint.
/r/TheRedPill10/05/16 09:27 AM
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Basically, men aren't allowed to opt out of providing value to women. Either they provide alpha value (tingles) or beta value (resources), but providing no value at all is verboten.
/r/TheRedPill07/05/16 04:55 AM
7

No - look at gambling or prostitution for example. A crime is anything the government wants to be a crime (which may or may not overlap with what the law says is a crime). In this case, I imagine they'll invent or repurpose an existing "incitement" type crime. "Inciting hatred against women" - enjoy 15 years in the clink for "hate crimes".
/r/TheRedPill07/05/16 04:39 AM
2

The best way to understand it, and I'm stealing this from some long forgotten TRP poster, is to realize that women see men the way that men see jobs. I think it's this post (read it, it's great).
/r/TheRedPill25/04/16 09:12 PM
17

Exactly. Childbearing isn't fashionable - careers are. The reason why, I suspect, is because careers take time and effort, but shitting out kids? Any welfare loser can do that. Free Northerner says something similar: It’s obvious that women want to work rather than procreate, but this is not because (most*) women particularly like working or because they prefer work to marriage and family. It’s not because housework is drudgery, most women who work do something similar to housework in their jobs…
/r/TheRedPill23/04/16 09:14 PM
1

You mean packaged fruit drinks that pose as fruit juice and contain heaps of added sugar and other stuff, right? Your liver can't tell the difference between "added" sugar and naturally occurring sugar.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/16 10:03 PM
3

When women make that argument, I think what they're doing is taking their own bad habit of getting pregnant without the man's consent, and just switching the sexes on it. In other words, they're modelling a hypothetical enemy on themselves.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/16 08:01 AM
1

Using that logic, we'd have underground RISUG clinics right now.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/16 07:59 AM
2

I seriously doubt there is any danger of Vasagel being stopped because of feminists. I guess we'll find out - if we find in a few years time that Vasalgel keeps mysteriously running into inexplicable roadblocks at the FDA, we'll know who's behind it.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/16 08:09 PM
15

The way I see it, there are two main female constituencies against male contraception: 1) Women who are planning an ambush pregnancy 2) Women who want to keep open the option of an ambush pregnancy At any given time, 1) is only a very small percentage of women - but 2) would be a much more substantial fraction. Male contraception does nothing, absolutely nothing at all of any value for the female sociosexual strategy - so expect pushback.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/16 07:31 PM
13

Their argument doesn't have to be good, because vagina. Seriously, the most likely-sounding argument against it is that men can lie about using it and impregnate unsuspecting women (see this for example). Therefore, as a matter of public policy, male contraception must be banned. At any rate, they don't need a public argument to ban male contraception - their first line of attack would actually just be getting the FDA to silently bury it behind the scenes.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/16 07:28 PM
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This is the biggest female nightmare since DNA paternity testing. Female bungholes all over the world will be clenching in horror as their nightmare of a male contraceptive moves toward reality. They're going to need the mother of all favours from the FDA to bury this one.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/16 04:26 PM
5

Regardless, feedback is pivotal to changing the leverage women have over us in terms of birth control and child support. Developing the contraceptive is easy - the real problem is getting it through the multiple layers of female interference and opposition that have buried every other male contraceptive.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/16 03:57 AM
2

Well, people aren't going to stop fucking, so the first thing we need is a long-acting, reversible male contraceptive, so men can prevent impregnating welfare-seeking women. In other words, let's stop the problem becoming any worse. So, you can expect welfare-seeking women to be on the front lines of resistance to male contraception (and, by extension, the political beneficiaries of those women and their welfare brats).
/r/TheRedPill15/03/16 04:20 AM
23

IQ is a turn-off to women, but they pretend to like it because they know that it delivers the beta bucks. I think this is why women pretend to like "nerds", but actual nerds aren't getting any.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/16 05:21 AM
1

Yes, it was Westpac. From the looks of it they still offer it, although with a $1000 limit these days.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/16 07:20 PM
4

My first credit card (back in about late 2002 or so) was a "student" Visa card with a $300 monthly credit limit. So they did exist, here in Australia at least.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/16 04:24 PM
1

All over the world, women are doing work they’re not getting paid for. In rich countries, it might be folding the laundry or staying home to take care of a sick child. 1) If you do work for yourself that you're not getting paid for, you earn what's called an "imputed wage", ie. the money you save from not having to hire someone to do it. 2) All over the world, men are also doing work (probably more physically arduous than caring for sick kids or folding laundry) they're not getting paid for. The…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/16 09:52 PM
1

So, what's the difference between hiring an escort, shooting porn, and compensated dating in the eyes of the law? The difference is the amount of threat each poses to the female betabux extraction strategy. Porn is not much threat, "compensated dating" is something all women do (it's a betabux-to-women transfer process), but prostitutes? Hoo boy, that's competition, and we can't have that.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/16 02:42 PM
12

Its too bad those refugees arent female otherwise European men would be drowning in pussy right now. I've always figured that if the European crisis was hot refugee chicks publicly harassing men for marriage, European women would have had refugee flows stopped a long, long time ago.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/16 10:02 AM
1

Those are factor costs, not transaction costs or taxes.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/16 03:26 PM
1

Divorce is a giant contingent liability, so there's that.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/16 12:38 PM
16

At least with prostitution they're doing something useful in return.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/16 10:46 AM
90

I get the feeling that it goes something like this: if a man improves after divorce, that's implicitly a criticism of the wife, as if she was holding him back in some way.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 03:38 PM
2

Like I always say when this topic arises: women aren't going to allow competition in the SMP and that's that. No prostitution, no bordellos, no foreign wives (legal for now, but eventually they're going to crack down on it if the competition rises from its current near-zero level), other women, all of it is competition and must be shut down, stat.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/16 01:38 PM
8

If you think you are an "ex-repiller", you simply never were one in the first place. Yup. I think I've posted this quote before, but it's worth repeating: "What is it to red pill, or as I will now refer to it, redpill? What is entailed by redpilling is not merely the learning of new information, but information situated and arranged such that one experiences a quasi-traumatic shift in one’s interpretation of the world. It is not merely knowledge, but knowledge of a kind which introduces a previo…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/16 06:23 AM
10

Vox.Com: only mainstream media outlet that figured out Roosh is relying on the "Streisand effect" The link doesn't mention the Streisand effect. Roosh is clearly, plainly and obviously using the "Streisand effect": something is eaten alive in the mainstream media, and people get curious about it, "what about it is so bad?", they go to the site, find out what's its about, and for some number of men, they have a moment where they say (as I did once, when I found this sub-red) "that makes sense, ev…
/r/TheRedPill07/02/16 11:50 AM
1

SJWs have never doxxed or some down hard on female hookers. It's always the Johns and no one else. Has this already started? I thought you were being hypothetical.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/16 05:52 PM
1

The term you're looking for is "haploid", not "RNA".
/r/TheRedPill06/02/16 08:56 AM
-4

Peter Criss said in his autobiography that Kiss concerts were giant sausage fests until about 1976 or so. Having a male fanbase is essential to get anywhere, unless you're Michael Bolton I guess. Women go where the alphas and attention are, so they naturally follow alphas around.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/16 04:30 AM
2

From what I can tell, technology seems to be displacing moderate to low-skilled manual jobs (eg. labourers, manufacturing workers, etc) that are mostly filled by men, and clerical/secretarial/administrative type jobs that are mostly done by women. Overall it seems to be somewhat favouring (or less-disfavouring) women (just a guess). The skilled trades are cyclical (see: construction bust) but are generally safe (although I did see a story about a bricklaying machine a few months ago...)
/r/TheRedPill05/02/16 01:31 PM
1

I was thinking the same thing (they'll dox the johns), but the most paranoid competition-suppressors will want a full-spectrum assault, ie. buyers AND sellers. Privacy laws might have to be strengthened to deal with this. Of course the governments of the world are on the SJWs' side and it's not like the average dumpy middle-aged woman is going to object to SJWs cracking down on her competition.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/16 07:35 AM
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I'm sure the pussy cartel will crack down on this shocking instance of competition very soon. Whether hard power (send in cops) or soft power (shaming, ridicule), the pussy cartel will not tolerate competition, period.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/16 05:05 AM
10

Brightly coloured hair is the female equivalent of a fedora. (I forget where I read that, but it's stuck with me ever since.)
/r/TheRedPill29/01/16 06:44 PM
27

I'm sure you'll be able to get SJW barbie in a decade or so Look at the first picture again - it's already got blue hair.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/16 03:41 AM
8

I was thinking the same thing - "contracting" and "freelancing" are two ways of describing the same thing, more or less. The OP should have described marriage as sex on the instalment plan - without the sex, of course.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 08:03 AM
4

Yup. This is why there'll never be a "bachelor tax": because there already is one.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 03:31 AM
1

Vasalgel isn't a drug, so it'll probably go through the medical devices approval procedure (guessing).
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 11:18 AM
1

Do you have any links to newspaper articles or any other information about what Bucaresky said?
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 11:11 AM
5

Is there a male bc pill yet? Why the fuck not? 1) No-one cares about men 2) Female pushback (women view contraception as a privilege for women, ie. not for men) 3) It's difficult (developing a male contraceptive pill - this point doesn't apply to Vasalgel, though)
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 08:51 AM
0

It's not generally available - it's still in trials last I checked.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 08:48 AM
2

No, it's because human trials haven't been started yet. Feminist interference through the FDA is therefore still a year or two off. If they manage to ship Vasalgel on time without/despite feminist pushback I'll be impressed.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 08:47 AM
9

"Feminism" is a combination motte-and-bailey argument and shit-test designed to transfer rights, privileges and benefits to women while transferring obligations, costs and disadvantages to men. I'm sure there's a thousand different ways of describing it, like the blind men examining an elephant.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 08:18 AM
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I want to date WOMEN who were born WOMEN and have a vagina. That's my preference. But no, that makes me a bigot. Fuck me, right? It's just the old "my preferences are preferences, your preferences are bigotry" scam. Like how women wanting tall guys is a perfectly legitimate preferences, but men wanting slim women is reprehensible? Same thing.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/16 05:05 PM
5

This indicates that men are most likely to be the abandoning party when their partner develops cancer. The obvious circumstantial problem with this finding is that it invites us to believe that women file the majority of divorces, except where a spouse has cancer, whereupon the reverse suddenly and mysteriously becomes the case.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/16 05:00 AM
11

I went to the men's room and a couple drunk wall-adjacent girls barged in Er, why were they in the men's room?
/r/TheRedPill17/01/16 04:43 AM
6

SMP in the US at least is one pf the most free markets there is If prostitution ever becomes both legal Can you see a problem here?
/r/TheRedPill16/01/16 09:31 AM
2

Prostitution isn't going away and maintaining the status quo really ONLY benefits the organized criminals that provide the service (often with trafficked women). It also benefits millions of women who don't want more competition in the SMP.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/16 05:47 PM
27

Prostitution involves sex, unlike marriage.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/16 05:18 PM
5

I'm not sure I see how this relates to 'red pill' Just as well there's a woman who can set us straight on these things! and the suggestion of increasing the supply of prostitutes for the goal of lowering the cost is rather disturbing Oh, how convenient: you're "disturbed". This is just the old hamster rentseeking trick of defining pro-competitive reforms as "immoral". I think it's rather stupid to criminalize consenting activities between consenting adults just because it's got something to do w…
/r/TheRedPill10/01/16 05:09 PM
1

As far as the sticker price goes, I suppose we'd need a study to look at if it really does become cheaper, but what legalisation does is lower the contingent costs of prostitution - you don't have to worry about being charged with anything, nor does the girl. Also, there are other costs like convenience - if brothels are legal, you'll probably get more brothels.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/16 05:04 PM
5

We need to replace these women by relaxing fiance visa regulations and simultaneously make sex readily available for ALL men by legalizing prostitution. Women aren't going to allow increases in competition, whether in the marriage or sexual markets, period. The only way you could do this is by seizing political power and forcibly suppressing female rent-seeking behaviour.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/16 04:58 PM
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Here's a comment I found at Sailer's: I spent 5 months in Europe for a study abroad program. While walking through city streets in Germany and the Netherlands, I was cat-called by Arabic and North African men, never the European men. A friend of mine was groped by a Turkish Muslim man in the streets of the Hague. Yes, I know it is disrespectful and against everything I’ve been taught and believe, but it’s really hot. When men act like men are a little scary….I have to be honest…huge turn on. I k…
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 11:46 AM
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My guess is that promoting to FWB is sort of like a testing/proving ground for an LTR. Because you wouldn't LTR a single mother, the FWB stage is therefore pointless and no single mother need be promoted to it.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/16 05:13 PM
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as long as you dont marry or impregnate them, a woman has zero leverage on you I suspect this is one of the reasons for rape hysteria etc these days: women trying to create new leverage fulcrums because the traditional fulcrums of children and marriage are evaporating.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 11:51 PM
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Yup. Male and female hamsters have the same purpose: rationalising bad female behaviour. The only difference is that the female hamster is inbuilt, whereas the male hamster is inculcated by blue-pill social conditioning.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 08:45 AM
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he made it through a 30 year rock career with no drug habit (40+ years) The guy is notoriously straight-edge. There's a story in Peter's autobiography about how Gene flipped out when he ate some hash brownies: "Peter, my face is melting"
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 07:21 AM
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1) When I saw the headline, my first thought was that you were talking about Paul Stanley, because he actually has a divorce in his past 2) In his autobiography, Paul says that Gene had a habit of paying out on marriage - smart man I saw Kiss in October - Gene sounded great.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 07:19 AM
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The dream of a man owning his family has been replaced with men being legally responsible for providing for someone else's. Further evidence of women's vice-like grip on society's standards-setting apparatus.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/15 04:22 PM
2

How do you have to bench to read Ron Paul's old newsletters?
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 06:17 PM
1

While those factual statistics do not address partner count they indirectly imply that a younger bride ostensibly with a lower partner count actually increases, not decreases the risk of divorce. So the link between partner count and bonding ability does not appear to be reflected in actual marriage statistics. I think what you might be detecting here is just an epiphenomenon of the fact that divorce rates are a function of a woman's options - the more options she has, the more likely she is to …
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 02:45 PM
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Yup. Supporting themselves makes women more progressive, because the government funds their welfare, make-work government jobs, academic sinecures, etc. Being supported by a man typically makes women more conservative, because the government goes from being the thing that funds her to the thing that taxes her husband/betabux/whatever, which means less money for her.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/15 07:42 AM
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Attractive women love being involved with politics, though they tend to lean right for some reason. Ugly women are a grievance group, hot women aren't. Hence, you'd expect ugly women to be to the left of hot women. So it's not that attractive women lean right, it's that ugly women lean left.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/15 07:35 AM
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"... but by 2025 this had disappeared because of the wide availability and rapid uptake of Vasalgel."
/r/TheRedPill07/12/15 09:03 AM
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both of you will have to leave This is the curious comment that tripped my bullshit radar.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/15 10:00 AM
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As recently as a decade ago (possibly less - maybe five years ago?), it was still acceptable to oppose affirmative action for women. What we're seeing now is that the social licence to oppose affirmative action for women is being withdrawn. All this has happened in 10-15 years or less, ie. since the start of the century. Equal opportunity didn't deliver enough economic rents to women, so now they're taking stronger action.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/15 05:58 AM
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The uterus is the greatest rent-extraction device of all time.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/15 05:54 AM
8

Indeed. This seems to be a failure mode of men: for some reason, men are very susceptible to moral abuse by women. Viewed from another angle, men seem to collectively assume that women have some sort of superior moral authority to men, and this allows women to appoint themselves as society's moral rule-makers without encountering any resistance or questioning from men. But why? I don't see any reason why women should be considered the default arbiters of morality. Maybe it's a reflexive thing be…
/r/TheRedPill03/12/15 09:33 PM
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Why are we letting grown ass adult women off the hook from responsibilities towards their actions towards men? Basically, the reason why is because women control society's moral standards (a position to which women appointed themselves). Not surprisingly, they've used that power to exempt themselves from those standards. This is why society has two sets of rules, a strict one that applies to men and a suspiciously relaxed one that applies to women. Women made it like that.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/15 07:08 PM
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Redittor's feminist friend dates a "racist sexist asshole" because he's attractive. In other words, your sociopolitical views have minimal impact on your attractiveness.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/15 12:06 PM
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I know that - I'm just saying that a society's that 1% men isn't going to be sustainable in terms of provision, because every man is going to have ~99 women to provide for (and that's before counting kids). By comparison, a society that's 99% men would survive because of its massive resource surplus, it just wouldn't reproduce very fast.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/15 05:27 AM
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A society's that only ~1% men would collapse - who'd do the work?
/r/TheRedPill02/12/15 06:52 PM
47

TLDR: "Chemistry" is just a euphemism for tingles, ie. sexual arousal.
/r/TheRedPill01/12/15 03:57 PM
2

Yup. Nothing good ever comes out of these trashy hoodrat women.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/15 06:46 PM
1

I suspect this was a trial balloon to see if the Overton window had shifted far enough to permit further criminalisation of men (yet another example of women using the law to buttress their sociosexual strategy). As it turned out, the Overton window hadn't shifted enough (or maybe the election got in the way - the bill would have lapsed). Expect something like this to return when the Overton window has shifted a bit further.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/15 01:52 PM
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Women, of course, also have reason to grow weary of patriarchy, particularly when men themselves are no longer upholding their patriarchal duties. Historian Suzanne Cross notes that during the decades of Rome’s civil wars, Roman women of all classes had to learn how to do without men for prolonged periods, and accordingly developed a new sense of individuality and independence. 1) So men fail to "uphold their patriarchal duties" when they go to war. Reminds me of that apocryphal comment about wo…
/r/TheRedPill30/11/15 06:14 AM
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Meanwhile, women are getting beheaded for witchcraft in Saudi Arabia. Not even the hashtag, the lance of the slacktivist, is used in their defense. GamerGate? quick, make 3000 sites and campaigns. Horrible violence against women in the shit parts of the world? meh, who cares. This is as good a sign as any that they're not sincerely concerned about women. They're doing something else. Another example is the way SJWs are paranoid about the supposed epidemic of rapes on university campuses, while r…
/r/TheRedPill29/11/15 02:11 PM
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Women were only ever strategically sex-positive. Sex positivity (for lack of a better term) was used as bait to get men to support the female sociosexual strategy. Basically it was a covert contract from women that went something like "you [men] support the female sociosexual strategy and in return you'll get laid heaps" (of course, none of the betas who fell for it ever got laid out of it, but I digress). Now that women have won everything they wanted, the bribe is no longer necessary and is be…
/r/TheRedPill29/11/15 08:44 AM
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I bet she'll be a big fan of Vasalgel.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/15 04:16 PM
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"Experience new things" is one of the standard euphemisms for "I need more Chad cock". I suppose the guy could just reapply to Google, try again. Hope he gets there.
/r/TheRedPill24/11/15 10:21 AM
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Why isn't the entire world working for it? Surrogacy is cheaper and simpler. Then again, artificial wombs would be a good backup plan in case women start strategically restricting access to surrogacy.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/15 07:12 PM
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Women are about 51% of the vote Women have higher turnout rates, lower incarceration rates, and the male age distribution is younger than the female age distribution (ie. the percentage of men old enough to be eligible to vote is smaller than that of women). Add them all up and women would surely average higher than 51% of votes cast.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/15 06:12 PM
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Excellent post. This is good advice in general - the usage of suspense to intimidate and browbeat is abusive behaviour, whoever it comes from. "We need to talk" is, in itself, a red flag. If someone "needs to talk", you're being psychologically shit tested.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/15 05:41 PM
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So economists define 'real wage' in a way that includes the price of goods and then pretend that tax increases aren't passed on to the consumer but are instead impacting wages. Taxes decrease your income - duh. This is ideological nonsense designed to shift the perceived impact of taxes. Higher taxes result in higher prices of goods. Not necessarily - tax incidence depends on the elasticities of supply and demand for a good. You can't guess the incidence of a tax without knowing what the tax is,…
/r/TheRedPill17/11/15 05:18 PM
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And this is why I keep saying that feminism is a rent-seeking movement: they seek to artificially externalise women's costs, and artificially internalise men's income.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/15 03:59 AM
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AKA: Sexual Strategy is Amoral. This is more like "sexual strategy is unfair". To say that sexual strategy is "amoral" means that TRP doesn't tell you whether a certain behaviour is right or wrong; it simply tells you what results you can expect from it.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/15 03:58 AM
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When the tax on the sale of gasoline increases so do the prices, the workers' wages don't go down. In economics, the "real wage" is defined as R = W/P, ie. the real wage is the nominal wage divided by the price level. When prices increase, real wages fall unless there's an offsetting increase in nominal wages. The real wage is just your purchasing power. If the price of fuel goes up without my nominal wage increasing, my real wage, expressed in gallons of fuel, has fallen. If you've got a landli…
/r/TheRedPill17/11/15 03:39 AM
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Businesses like Microsoft simply 'headquarter' a small facility in a low-tax state and boom, barely any taxes for the giants. That's not how state corporate tax works - if you do business in a state, you have to pay taxes on income earned in that state (and register your business with that state's government to do so). The fact that your headquarters or registered office might notionally be in, say, Nevada (no corporate tax) makes no difference. For example, see the third paragraph here. Corpora…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 06:52 PM
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GE is carrying forward losses from the recession. That's where you get this Buzzfeedish crap about GE not paying taxes - the fact that when GE carries their losses from the recession forward, they don't pay much tax in this year or that. Corporations in the US cough up a few percent of GDP each year in federal income tax alone, and that's before state income taxes are included.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 03:56 PM
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GE is carrying GE Capital's losses forward from the recession.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 03:34 PM
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Feminists want equality of outcome No they don't. They just want free money.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 02:31 PM
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The economic incidence of corporate income tax falls on wages, not consumer prices. That is to say, you're correct in saying that corporate taxes are "passed on", but they're passed on through lower wages, not higher prices. Input and output prices are mostly market-determined, and therefore profits are as well (companies being mostly price-takers for inputs and outputs). So corporate tax collections are a function of margins, and aren't "passed on" to consumers. They're passed onto workers. And…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 02:16 PM
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The federal corporate tax burden in the US has been fairly stable over the past 35-odd years.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 02:08 PM
2

I wonder if they ask women's husbands before they do tubal ligation on married women?
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 12:44 PM
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They will loudly scream that they have the 'right' to know if their partner is on vasalgel. Can't control reproduction if men can turn it off. Expect endless stories about women being 'lied to' by their partner because they never told them they were on vasalgel. This is a really good point. I think that women won't try to block the introduction of Vasalgel, not least of all because a lot of women genuinely want to see it (look at the comments women leave on Vasalgel's facebook page, for instance…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 09:17 AM
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If corporations controlled the government, why does corporate tax still exist?
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 09:12 AM
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You're not reading between the lines. Women like female contraceptives, but male contraceptives are redundant at best. You can't ignore the political implications of a convenient male contraceptive. Women tolerate condoms because they're useful against diseases, but a non-prophylactic male contraceptive like Vasalgel is worthless to them, because it heralds the end of ambush pregnancies - and that is a political act.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 08:51 AM
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Who engineered it isn't as important as who benefits from it. The reason why feminism still exists is because it transfers resources and benefits from men to women and obligations and responsibilities from women to men. Regardless of who engineered feminism, it wouldn't exist if it didn't provide a product people wanted, and women sure as hell like the increased benefits and decreased responsibilities that feminism provides. Now pay up.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 02:07 AM
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Excellent post, particularly the last couple of paragraphs. If you want to extend the discussion, consider examining how women use covert contracts. For example, putting the sex coins in and then getting butthurt over not getting any commitment out sounds suspiciously like a covert contract. Another example of a covert contract is the way women entice men into supporting female rentseeking: give us sociopolitical support and we'll reward you with sex (hence leading to the creation of that most l…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/15 05:10 PM
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Women only complain about "sexism" when they can see some sociopolitical, virtue-signalling, or financial benefit from it. The rest of the time, women don't complain about it at all.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/15 02:58 AM
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So, ironically, for all their fanatical feminist flag-waving and sanctimonious puritanical moral posturing about saving women from sexual slavery and exploitation, the real reason women hate prostitutes is precisely because women are prostitutes. Like any other class of commercial trader, they just don’t like the competition. As I've said here about a billion times before, women don't like prostitution because it's competition. Laws against prostitution, and the stigmatisation of men who have se…
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 10:20 PM
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Courts are still allowed to order paternity tests in France. I also don't see what any of this has to do with my point, which applies to women universally.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 04:49 AM
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It's basically what happens when men abdicate the role of moral guardians of society to women - that is to say, a bunch of rent-seekers who promptly use their moral-guardian status to advance the female sociosexual strategy (or "FI", as Rollo calls it). If this happened to women, it would have been fixed long ago (assuming it even became a problem in the first place). No-one cares about men. This is proof.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 01:00 AM
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Fuck me this shit is horrifying. This is proof that no-one cares about men: if anyone did, this wouldn't be a thing.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 12:55 AM
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Sounds about right. Smart women don't end up as single mothers, so you can use the kid's IQ as a rough proxy of his or her parents' relationship status.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 12:34 AM
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My guess is that it's because intelligence is negatively correlated with things women find arousing - violence, thuggishness and propensity to commit violent crimes decline with IQ (how many IQ 130 guys have convictions for assault?) Women are probably willing to overlook IQ, but you need to hide it with the usual things women find attractive - game, mostly. Also, it just occurred to me: if a woman finds out you have high IQ (or something collinear to it - a physics or engineering degree, or you…
/r/askTRP05/11/15 12:23 AM
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To the extent that you can achieve any success like that, sure. Remember Alinsky's fourth rule: hold the enemy to their own book of rules. So, by all means, hold them to their publicly professed principles. Just don't expect to have much success.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/15 12:39 AM
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Meanwhile, if you do take her out for dinner you're automatically pegged as a beta and cast aside. This is why dating is a bad idea - it's intrinsically a beta frame. When a woman is looking for sex, she goes down to the bar and chooses the most alpha guy she can find. What she doesn't do is go on a "date". A "date" is just an audition for being a betabux, where the guy demonstrates his betabuxal qualities by spending money on her. Avoid "dating". If you have to "date" to have sex, you're doing …
/r/TheRedPill02/11/15 10:34 PM
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MRAs fail the "win by your actions, not through argument" law of power. They need to stop complaining about unfairness and start finding ways to route around unfairness. I don't begrudge them any political successes they might have, but I doubt they'll ever have any.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/15 10:30 PM
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I was thinking the same thing - if you're just going to be spinning plates, why does it matter if they're gold diggers? As long as they can't actually dig any of your gold, go right ahead. And to the extent that a nice car makes it easier to find/get/keep plates, so much the better.
/r/askTRP02/11/15 08:46 PM
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1) Good god. Why should anyone accept moral pestering from a slut? Why should anyone take seriously the moral outrage of an immoral person? 2) "Again". LOL. Reminds me of that HIV+ guy from Quebec in the 1980s who infected some other fag and the other fag confronted him - and had sex with him again. 3) "You need to beg God for forgiveness". Oh lord, my sides. 4) "My significant other has encouraged me to". Um, why hasn't he dumped you for cheating on him? Thanks for posting it though, it was hil…
/r/TheRedPill28/10/15 11:36 PM
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TRP is non-aligned, not "apolitical". TRP is extremely political (I don't see how it could possibly be said that divorce rape and ambush pregnancies aren't political). And even leaving aside matters of electoral politics, TRP is a forum for discussion of sexual realpolitik. I remember gamergaters making the same solecism, describing their movement as "apolitical" (how could fighting SJWs be "apolitical"?) when the term they were looking for was "non-aligned".
/r/TheRedPill27/10/15 08:37 PM
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Exactly. They have all sorts of protections in maternity wards to make sure each baby goes home with the right mother (security cameras, multiple name tags, etc), because society (that is to say, women, because women appointed themselves as the moral arbiters of society) takes correct maternity seriously, but correct paternity? Aw nah, "the father is the person who loves the kid", and all that other bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/15 02:00 PM
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Let me guess: the guy from this "polyamorous" couple doesn't get to enjoy much polyamory. "I never put too much stock into paternity." Gorsh, you mean you don't care about something that doesn't affect you? Imagine a guy saying something like "I never put too much stock in female contraception".
/r/TheRedPill25/10/15 01:45 PM
2

In a few years or more you will be able to run a whole genome at home from a drop of saliva or a single hair. I've been wondering for a while now about the potential for gadgets like this to negate regulation of DNA technology/services. Of course I suppose government could just restrict access/purchase of those devices.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/15 11:35 PM
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Exactly. This is a good example of Alinsky's rule #4 - make them live up to their own book of rules.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/15 12:26 PM
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This shows us that the intuitive understanding women have of spousal support is that it's something that's supposed to flow from men to women, not the other way around. This is another example of women determining society's moral standards - which, of course, they rig to favour themselves.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/15 10:17 AM
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using it exactly how it was intended? He's not. Spousal support was never intended to direct money from women to men.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/15 10:14 AM
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So I was reading this story about how siblings take 23andMe gene tests I remember reading a story years ago in the 23andMe forums about someone finding out about her mother's infidelity. The lady had done a 23andMe test and she quite liked it so she bought some tests for her parents. Anyway she finds out that she mysteriously has no relationship to her "dad" (must not have shown up in her relative finder), she confronts her mother, who fesses up. This is probably a good time to remind everyone: …
/r/TheRedPill22/10/15 09:46 PM
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How this isn't illegal is beyond me. Women control society's morality. Not surprisingly, they use their power to exempt themselves from it. This is why society steadily becomes trashier and more undignified as female sociopolitical power increases: the more power women have, the more power they have to exempt themselves from the rules. Men don't do that, which is why societies with low levels of female sociopolitical power have much more decorum and dignity than societies with high levels of fem…
/r/TheRedPill22/10/15 09:16 AM
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I believe that, fundamentally, the goals of each gender are irreconcilable. Correct. There's a quote from Rollo I keep coming back to: The Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies For one sex’s sexual strategy to become realized, the other sex’s strategy must be compromised or abandoned entirely. Women and men can't both win, they can only compromise. You also point out that AF and BB are negatively correlated with other, which is something else Rollo has written about before, and I'm inclined to agre…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 04:02 PM
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That's a good summary. Basically, the perpetual dilemma of women throughout all of humanity's existence is "how do I extract the beta's resources without having to fuck him?"
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 11:36 AM
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Irresponsible guys are assholes. Irresponsible girls need sympathy. Does anyone need any more proof that women manipulate society's morals and standards for their own benefit?
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 11:18 AM
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while first protecting himself by saying the theory is "controversial" This is another female squid-inking trick - gratuitously controversialising things that are blindingly obvious. People learn to avoid those issues, and hence learn to avoid thinking about them. (Fnording much?) Women's skills of thought control are actually rather impressive: they got society to not think about elephants by saying “don’t think about elephants.” (ETA: Or at least, "thinking about elephants is immoral".)
/r/TheRedPill20/10/15 03:23 PM
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Here's the list I was looking at: https://cdn.rawgit.com/anonymous/ac664b0e4559d41fda6c/raw/b9289b1aa3d10d783f1f746e1a06624b16ee9931/maxims.html I think someone posted it here a while back.
/r/TheRedPill19/10/15 07:19 PM
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Great exposition (have an upvote). It basically boils down to one of Roissy/Heartiste's maxims: "CR Maxim #57: Never trust a woman’s advice on how to please women. Her advice is designed for alpha men she already finds attractive and from whom she seeks signals of attainability and commitment."
/r/TheRedPill19/10/15 09:55 AM
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Good points. You should turn that into a post. (This is the sort of quality stuff that used to be common here before this place got turned into a hovel of shitposting midwits.)
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 04:15 PM
12

What's with all these guys dating older women all of a sudden? Any advice on how to test her for alpha widowness? Why bother? She's older than you. Dump her and find someone more age-appropriate, ie. younger than you.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 03:23 PM
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Eh. One a month will get you up to 60 in five years. It simply isn't that hard for women to accumulate massive counts.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/15 04:01 PM
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Indeed. I'm consistently shocked when I come here and read supposedly "red pill" guys who downplay the importance of N count on LTR worthiness.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 04:15 PM
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17 is probably below average for a 29yo woman.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 04:00 PM
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I think the problem here is the distinction between what women want and what actually happens. In civilisation, 80/20 is restrained. Women don't like it (which is what I suppose you're trying to say), but it's entirely possible to restrain it. Where you don't restrain it, you don't have civilisation. Civilisation (which is what I suppose you mean by "society") wasn't forged by 80/20, it was forged by keeping it under control. Civilisation didn't start until men had the opportunity to reproduce a…
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 06:13 AM
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So that's what it is. Women only deploy it strategically/tactically though, ie. they're strangely unconcerned when it's Chad "objectifying" them.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/15 06:17 PM
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I figured the whole "objectification" thing was just a meta-level shit test.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/15 06:15 PM
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Sounds like an evolutionary adaptation - they're changing their camouflage because of changes in the environment.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/15 03:07 PM
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That's an interesting anecdote - what it shows us is that women are so inundated with attention that they can afford to burn it, like plutocrats lighting cigars with $100 banknotes.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/15 10:06 AM
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"Objectification" is meaningless feminist mumbo-jumbo anyway. What does it even mean in the first place?
/r/TheRedPill08/10/15 10:04 AM
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80/20 exists because it's what's natural to women No. Wanting 80/20 is natural. Allowing it to happen, however, is not natural: it can only happen with female economic emancipation, which is an entirely fake phenomenon where men create make-work jobs for women. Lmfao. Because it's spineless to have consensual sex with lots of hot women I was referring to manginas and white knights who collude with women. They should be sending them back to the kitchen.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 10:02 PM
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Those two are legit hilarious.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 05:43 PM
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Society managed to keep 80/20 at bay for years; I'm sure they can do it again. It required no great feats of particle physics to keep it at bay. 80/20 only exists because of the extensive edifice of make-work jobs, favouritism, and other privileges extended to women so they can pretend be economically independent of men (and we all know that because women don't work in primary or secondary industry, that they aren't ever going to be independent of men). 80/20 isnt' a "solution"; it's what women …
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 10:22 AM
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I'm just saying why the killings are occurring: 80/20 is why. Until society fixes it, the killings will continue. Society fixed it in the past and it came unfixed somehow. How can something inherently natural be the problem? Natural things are problematic all the time. Your logic is the appeal to nature.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 03:40 AM
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In history, the lowest value men have always been the ones murdering people senselessly. ... He was raised by a single mom, a textbook modern woman's omega son. If you take a look through other recent mass murderers, especially ones at colleges and workplaces, they are typically caused by male sexual angst clashing against blue pill conditioning. In those cases, the decision to commit the atrocity of murder is the boil over of bottled-up masculine energy. For the men who commit these crimes, yea…
/r/TheRedPill06/10/15 08:16 PM
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So many things I could say, but the comments have covered most of it, so I'll just say this: I think what's happening is that women want male demand for marriage to be higher than female demand for marriage, so as to shift pricing power to the female. This is why women are simultaneously complaining about the marriage strike, while simultaneously not wanting to get married either: women WANT men to want marriage.
/r/TheRedPill06/10/15 05:02 PM
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All of the time, energy, and resources you invest into women are not money in the bank. They are food you bought for her. That is to say, resources spent on women should be thought of as operating expenditure, not capital expenditure.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/15 09:51 PM
6

By "needs", I suppose you mean "endless list of wants".
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 03:19 PM
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bored one night I hit the random button and I come upon this subreddit On such closely-run things do the fates of men depend.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 08:03 AM
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Marxist sociology works reasonably well for describing the SMP. if you look at the SMP, you can see Marxist mumbo-jumbo to the letter: class struggle (proletarian betas vs. a bourgeoisie of women), alienation (betas and omegas being bummed out by the fact that they're not alphas and hence becoming hostile to healthy, natural things like wanting a wife and kids), false consciousness (the society-wide blue-pill propaganda machine), immiseration of the proletariat (80/20, sexual inequality, technol…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/15 11:37 AM
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6.75 inches is ~17.1 cm. Let's see what percentage of men are that big.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/15 09:36 AM
2

High-Availability Mental System Tenaciously Ejecting Rationales
/r/TheRedPill28/09/15 02:21 PM
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"Intelligent and well spoken individuals" are the demographic most vulnerable to virtue-signalling behaviours and ideologies.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/15 01:47 PM
2

My guess is that it's to increase women's confidence that alphas are genuine. The logic is that if a guy manages to evade female betafication efforts, he MUST be genuine.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/15 09:31 AM
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1) The word "plate" has now entered the public vocab. 2) Dude fucked up twice. He fucked up by getting unmasked, and he fucked up by recanting.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/15 11:44 AM
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You are not considering that women will also be a large customer base for the sexbot market. Nope. Sexbots don't provide provision or social proof. The only thing sexbots could provide is sex, and female sex toys already do that. That's why I don't expect any great female demand for sexbots. If a woman just wants sex, she can dildo herself or go down to a bar and get a real guy. Sexbots are pointlessly superfluous to dildos/vibrators and real men.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 11:43 AM
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The past few decades of unrestrained female promiscuity hasn't done much for betas, so I wouldn't expect future decades of unrestrained female promiscuity to do anything, either. Promiscuity only increases the amount of sex for alphas.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 11:00 AM
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Interesting theory - I wonder if opposition to prostitution matches that template, ie. older women == more perceived threat == anti-prostitution, younger women == less perceived threat == indifferent or at least less anti-prostitution.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 08:00 PM
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Your "two-pronged attack" is an elaboration of what I said the other day about "hard bans" (ie. laws against it) and "soft bans" (social shaming). Soft bans are inevitable for anything that competes with women (which is why prostitution will never be considered acceptable, regardless of its legal status), but hard bans are up in the air (even a perma-cynic like I am has trouble believing that sexbots will be made illegal, although I certainly don't dismiss the possibility).
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 07:54 PM
2

Maybe not the world, but individual jurisdictions might. That's probably why redpillbanana specified "CA, NY, Toronto, and Sweden".
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 07:50 PM
1

Excellent point, but I don't see why the two can't both be correct.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 04:27 PM
2

Doubt it, that'll probably fall under the existing bans on bordellos.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 12:43 PM
1

Made its way to Slashdot: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/09/16/0327227/robotics-researcher-starts-campaign-to-ban-development-of-sexbots
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 11:52 AM
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Sexbots will be for the betas who are not in the top 20% and are not getting sex. Nobody cares about these people (not even themselves) so the feminists looking to legally ban sexbots will either win or make it social suicide for men to have one. Anything that competes with the sex cartel/pussy monopoly/etc is subject to either a "hard ban" (ie. illegal to do/have) or, at a minimum, a "soft ban" (socially unacceptable). The obvious example of a hard ban is brothels, which will never be further l…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 03:49 PM
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I think it's just a shit test (that he's failing). It's basically a test of his level of scarcity mentality: if he has a scarcity mentality, he'll put up with it. So it's a shit test and he's failing it.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 03:37 PM
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What I absolutely would hate would be a hypocritical lopsided ban where beta men don't get sexbots but women are allowed everything they desire. This is the most probable thing I expect to see though, as women and betas-who-seek-to-appease-them are the majority of the population, and we are in a democracy, so they will give votes to whoever bans it. ^ This. Only weirdos have sex with machines that look human. This is the sort of view that changes with society though. This is a majority opinion n…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 02:34 PM
5

Related: visit the link and find out which sex is more strongly opposed to legalising prostitution. You'll be shocked (not): https://today.yougov.com/news/2012/03/23/legalization-of-prostitution/
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 01:41 PM
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Feminism is at its core a movement to maximize female sexual strategy. Yup. That's all it is and all it ever was. Owning a dozen vibrators isn't just socially acceptable, it's the mark of an empowered woman. Owning a fleshlight is social suicide. Such social perceptions aren't accidental. Everything women want gets steadily more and more liberalised, everything men want gets steadily more and more anathematised (eg. in Iceland you can buy vibrators at the supermarket but strip clubs are illegal)…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 01:30 PM
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It's the cartel coming in to protect their interests. Did anyone seriously think that the pussy cartel wasn't going to crack down on this particular green shoot of competition?
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 01:22 PM
2

Yeah. You have to be an above-average guy to get an average woman, an average guy can only get a below-average woman, and a below-average guy... eek.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 07:50 PM
10

We avoid using meaningless euphemisms like "real women" to begin with.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/15 10:17 PM
1

I didn't say they were. I just said that your comments are useless as a metric of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 02:25 PM
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My point is that your anecdotes are totally and utterly useless as a metric of the population's median views. If you really have never met a woman who didn't support legalizing prostitution, then your sample group is extraordinarily unrepresentative of the population mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 02:14 PM
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everyone i know is a libertarian In other words, your sample is grossly biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:34 AM
2

Here in Australia they typically charge extra for that. Not sure what it's like in other countries.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/15 08:40 AM
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"Winning a girl over" is for losers. Indeed. "Winning a girl over" is when betabuxes engage in all sorts of cringeworthy fedora shit in order to demonstrate their betabuxal qualities to women looking for a mealticket. Don't let it happen to you: "winning" the woman is implicitly falling into her frame: if the man "wins" her, that implies she's the more valuable one.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 10:22 PM
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It's fine to disagree with what we've researched and learned, what the sidebar proposes, and what we advocate, but why the direct, personal attacks? What's to gain? From men, it's just white-knighting. From women, it's because they're trying to shame men out of learning anything about how women work. Remember Rollo's cardinal rule of sexual strategies: For one sex’s sexual strategy to become realized, the other sex’s strategy must be compromised or abandoned entirely. Basically, anything that in…
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 05:24 PM
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What is it with the kink/bdsm/polyamory lifestyle that attracts obese sluts? Heartiste once described polyamory as "ugly people rationalizing their romantic worthlessness", which sounds about right.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 06:45 AM
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Used GIS data to pinpoint my marketing based on census surveys and consumer spending habits. Take note guys: when people talk about "big data", this is precisely the sort of thing they're talking about.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/15 07:16 AM
2

I felt my balls shrivelling up as I read it. 1) His [28M] gf [30F] is older than he is. There's your first sign there's something wrong (who LTRs an older woman?) 2) Not dumping a woman for cheating is scarcity behaviour. Scarcity behaviour is not a turn-on to women. 3) Get the hint: she's not into you. If she were, she... wouldn't be cheating on you.
/r/TheRedPill05/09/15 08:05 AM
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I remember reading it in ninth grade English. It's shit.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/15 07:58 PM
2

The statistics for kids raised by single mothers shows all manner of dysfunction (poverty, mental illness, crime) for kids raised by single mothers, but not widows. Can you link us some of these stats? That stuff would be dynamite.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/15 10:13 PM
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This shit is just yet another negative externality of betas: betas don't stand up to the moronic virtue-signalling behaviour of women. The obvious guess as to why is because they're trying to buy female approval/affection/sex by going along with their every stupid idea.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 05:55 PM
4

Sounds like the David Reimer case.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 05:52 PM
8

The average teenage girl isn't literate enough to use a word like "sociopathic".
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 04:25 AM
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there is absolutely no such thing as a “slut.” We'll be the judge of that, not you.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/15 08:03 PM
1

Plan the breakup. Do this at her place or somewhere you can leave. This a thousand times. I'd actually generalise the principle - don't get into arguments (or situations that could potentially lead to arguments, even) where you can't just get up and leave. Otherwise, they'll be following you around all day, whining and nagging and arguing endlessly. Arguing, apologising, explanations, justifications are all non-dominant (read: beta) behaviour. Alphas don't do this. They do their thing and bounce…
/r/TheRedPill28/08/15 07:27 PM
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A ratchet hoe's crack withdrawed, pure bs acccustations, hold more weight than a never arrested sober doctor. Reminds me of the Duke lacrosse hoax - the word of one crack-smoking stripper/hooker was worth more than the word of four clean-cut college guys with their shit together. (Your neighbour needs to stop inviting ho-bag hookers around.)
/r/TheRedPill28/08/15 08:05 AM
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I suspect this is another one of those cases where women support team woman and parents support team daughter. Combined, they're a solid majority of just about any country.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/15 07:32 PM
3

Texas is probably one of the states.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/15 05:29 AM
1

The first is the "love" angle. I can't count the times I've read "Men love Women, Women love Children, Children love puppies" in the manosphere, and this research directly questions that assumption. I've never believed it. AFAICT, men love women and children, women love women and maybe children to some extent depending on her personal circumstances (eg. single mothers hate their children for getting in the way of their carouselling).
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 03:51 PM
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Remember: men have no reproductive rights.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 03:44 PM
1

That is because women will give a bazillion chances, and will try and try and be patient...but once we're done? We are DONE. Really really done. So after Chad cheats (or whatever) on you, you give him a bazillion chances before you move onto your Chad-in-waiting. Gorsh, how noble of her.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 04:30 AM
4

The only way anyone would think to set up a satire sub in the first place is if they felt threatened by TRP. Now, why would they feel threatened?
/r/TheRedPill23/08/15 11:12 AM
1

The problem is that White Knight virtue signalling doesn't actually get the girl. This is a major error for Feminism because if you create a system that promotes certain behavior it needs rewards to keep it going. Sure, that makes sense, but they have another thing: an endless supply of blue-pill guys constantly coming on stream to replace guys who age out the other end. So even if individual guys get to age 25 (35, 45...) and turn redpill, that's manageable, because there's an endless stream of…
/r/TheRedPill22/08/15 05:02 PM
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They don't just (or even primarily) hate how we say it, they hate that we know it at all in the first place. That's the more important thing of the two. Women can't afford for men to develop antibodies to the female strategy.
/r/TheRedPill21/08/15 05:16 AM
1

Getting a new identity is a lot harder and more expensive than it was even 25 years ago. As recently as the 1980s, it was pretty easy in the US (and probably other countries) to make a new identity (eg. this lady made it look simple). These days, it takes a lot more time and money to create a whole new identity (eg. stricter rules on ID documents, biometric passports, etc).
/r/TheRedPill20/08/15 08:40 AM
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Why does no one else in the manosphere seem to understand how radical a social upheaval that is? I've often thought the same thing: why does hardly anyone here realise the massive potential for disruption Vasalgel poses? Most people here seem to be like, "cool, convenient male contraception at last". They don't seem to think through the huge potential it has for finally giving men some say over pregnancy (apart from the useless, disingenuous 'say' of not having sex in the first place). Technolog…
/r/TheRedPill19/08/15 12:27 PM
3

it primarily benefits white privledged females Which is a pretty good sign that it's never going to go away.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/15 08:33 PM
6

The problem I have with Briffault's law is that it's a redundant statement of the obvious. It boils down to if a trade isn't mutually beneficial, it doesn't happen. Duh. Does that really need to be pointed out?
/r/TheRedPill18/08/15 08:28 PM
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Or a 3 into an 8
/r/TheRedPill18/08/15 05:22 PM
4

If it's illegally recorded, then it'll be inadmissible in court, and hence can't save you from anything.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/15 01:16 PM
14

Women are protected because they are weak Women are protected because they're the limiting factor in the reproductive rate of the species. Lose all but one of the men of the tribe, the tribe could still continue - the one guy just knocks up all the women. By contrast, for every fertile-age woman you lose, you lose that much reproductive capacity. Other than that, good list.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/15 01:04 PM
3

I imagine they'll push for all-party consent laws to shut off this line of defence.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/15 12:47 PM
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There's a lot of possible answers, but the one that comes to mind most readily for me is that this is what happens when you have a society full of BP manginas who defer to women, which in turn is probably a result of the insidious cultural assumption that women are better and more moral people than men. Society defers to women because women and men alike prefer women to men, eg. by the cultural assumption I just mentioned. Women use this privilege to rentseek on behalf of their own sociosexual s…
/r/TheRedPill14/08/15 12:16 PM
1

Women will go along with YMY because there's no downside: either it benefits them, or it's neutral at worst. Men will go along with YMY because the average man is a pussybeggaring beta cuck who will go along with even the stupidest ideas of women in an attempt to supplicate their way into getting laid (I wonder if it works). You don't need "fear" to sell YMY, natural human rent-seeking behaviour (women) and natural beta behaviour (men) are enough to get popular support for it.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/15 02:50 AM
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The title is correct but your explanation is an overintellectualisation. Your explanation might be a side benefit of YMY, but it's not the primary reason for its existence. The primary reason for YMY is because there's no legal remedy for getting pumped and dumped: there's no tort or crime a woman can file against a man for pumping and dumping her. In other words, there's no guaranteed return on investment: she puts the sex coins in and commitment may or may not come out. YMY creates a legal rem…
/r/TheRedPill09/08/15 02:47 AM
1

It's not supposed to be clear, because if it were clear, then a man could just escape potential legal liability by taking those clear measures. The point of YMY is to create legal leverage over men who won't commit, and hence it's supposed to be vague and broad (so as to maximise the number of sexual encounters it can apply to).
/r/TheRedPill09/08/15 02:40 AM
1

Universities, in practice, are just government departments, with all the immutability and Brezhnevian stagnation it implies. They won't go away for the same reason government departments don't go away: the government subsidises their existence.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/15 02:37 AM
1

Yup. YMY on college campuses is a trial balloon for imposing it everywhere.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/15 02:36 AM
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The "war on drugs", as some comments here elaborate, is a rent-extraction movement: it's good for law enforcement budgets, but at the expense of taxpayers. That's why it persists, because rent-seeking behaviour is profitable. Problem is, people like drugs and would like to see an end to the "war on drugs" so they can consume drugs in peace. Hence, there's a big demographic opposed to drug laws and the enforcement thereof: an anti-rentseeking movement, I guess you could consider it. Feminism is a…
/r/TheRedPill09/08/15 02:33 AM
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A lot of guys overestimate how good looking they are. I imagine they're looking solely for women within the league of perfection that they think they're in when they are not in fact actually in that league. Basically, they think they deserve a certain kind of women who is (somehow unbeknownst to them) out of their league. These answers aren't as insightful as you make them out to be. They amount to little more than blaming the victim. Look at this crap, for example: Meanwhile, they ignore the at…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 02:55 PM
2

Good post - the second-last paragraph is the most important one. AF used to imply BB, ie. the strongest and most dominant guy was the best provider (eg. the strongest guy would be a good hunter, the most dominant guy would stand a better chance of extracting resources from others, etc). That was a long time ago and since then things have changed: things that used to be good provision traits have since been eclipsed by things that are neutral at best to female arousal: intellect, work ethic, etc.…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 04:56 AM
9

"There is also evidence that exposure to BS leads to increased support for the status quo" is my favourite line from the thesis.
/r/TheRedPill03/08/15 03:08 AM
9

Why is it that women tend to HATE generalizations They don't. Women only hate "generalisations" when the generalisations don't benefit them. Women love "generalisations" when the generalisations benefit them. Women simply support things that benefit them, and oppose things that don't benefit them. The idea of supporting or opposing something on principle is totally foreign to women.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/15 06:54 AM
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Let's not ban alimony, let's just do away with marriage in the first place. That'll just spur the extension of palimony laws. They're not going to let the divorce jackpot slip through their fingers without a fight.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/15 02:47 AM
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She keeps using fuck buddies and trying to shame both them and me. Jeez lady, for someone that hopped on fifty dicks with very little commitment to show for it, you sure don't have the higher moral ground. Guffaw. Women are shameless like this.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/15 06:25 PM
1

Increased beta thirst requires legal countermeasures to ensure that the thirsty betas dont rape the Chad-seeking sorority slutz. The people who suggested the affirmative-consent laws want you to think that it's just an anti-rape law. But, as redpillers, we know better.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/15 07:51 PM
1

Betas are getting thirstier, sure - but that's just another way of observing that the higher-beta demographic is being hollowed out, and omegas/lower-betas are a greater share of the male population than they used to be. Second, my point isn't that women are becoming more aware of game. It's that women are becoming more aware that men are becoming more aware of game, and they need some way of distinguishing naturals from guys who had to learn game. Hence, legal countermeasures that essentially s…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/15 07:17 PM
1

Well, it could be that the middle is emptying out: more omegas and lower betas, more alphas, fewer higher betas in the middle. The hollowing out of the middle of the sociosexual distribution parallels the hollowing out of the middle of the socioeconomic distribution: the economy isn't the only winner-take-all contest these days. At any rate, there needs to be some way of explaining why fitness testing is now being legislated, eg. affirmative consent laws. The simplest answer I can think of is th…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/15 05:52 PM
4

Women hate "fake" alphas. They want natruals. Yup. Because of the increase in knowledge flow, more and more men are starting to learn how to act as alphas. As a result, women are increasing the filtering threshold, making the tests for alphahood more stringent. The best example of late is affirmative consent laws - it filters out law-abiding, future-oriented men, who are a high-risk fake-alpha demographic.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 04:11 PM
15

If he does, the press will reliably inform us that the guy was an MRA.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 04:57 PM
17

It makes her sad. Just not, you know, sad enough to fuck a beta.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 02:53 PM
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1) Upvoted just based on the title, the content didn't disappoint 2) This is the sort of quality post that used to be commonplace here a year ago before this place got overrun with shitposting 3) My rule of thumb on this is: the sluttier a woman is, the LESS likely she is to have sex with a beta (or "fuck down", or whatever you want to call it): a woman who can't control her promiscuity probably can't control her hypergamy, either. Anyway, great post.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 02:46 PM
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I think what might be happening is that it's not that women are less likely to convict than men, it's that men are more likely to convict than women (if you get what I'm trying to say). That is to say, I think it might just be a case of white knighting by men: men supplicating to women by privileging women as plaintiffs.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 06:47 PM
21

my children are asleep in their room Er, might want to get them paternity tested. Just a thought.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/15 06:22 PM
3

Feminism is a motte-and-bailey argument, and "equality" is the motte.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/15 10:27 PM
17

That's not a "shaming tactic", it's a logical flaw in her spiel. A shaming tactic is something like "you have a small dick" or "you can't get laid". This, by contrast, is pointing out an inconsistency in her logic: dick is abundant and low value, and yet despite that, for some reason, she can't get a non-malodorous boyfriend.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/15 01:38 PM
5

Try this: http://web.archive.org/web/20130328142453/http://laurentia.jfbs.net/index.php?showtopic=69 Basically, "progressivism" is a non-theistic Christian sect (specifically, continental Protestant) that dropped overtly religious features (God, theology, worship, prayer etc) as an adaptive mutation to get around separation of church and state.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/15 08:30 AM
1

I just searched Moldbug's archives. Moldbug doesn't mention Evola at all, and mentions Spengler in one piece. This is because Evola and Spengler are irrelevant to 21st century reactionary thought. Evola made a handful of interesting observations, and so did Spengler. Moldbugs, however, they ain't.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/15 08:26 AM
6

The Germans capitalize their nouns. And? Is this piece written in German?
/r/TheRedPill14/07/15 08:22 AM
2

Most people don't get that single moms actually resent their children and that it usually leads to some form of abusive behavior. ^ this. Single mothers resent their kids (usually the result of carouselling behaviour) because it restricts their carouselling behaviour. They cover it up by feigning this exaggerated love of their kids (as if a ho-bag carousel reject could love anyone).
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 01:42 PM
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This is precisely the sort of situation for which affirmative consent laws were conceived. Remember, the point of affirmative consent laws is to give women legal leverage against being platezoned: "commit to me or I go to the cops and say you raped me".
/r/TheRedPill02/07/15 03:59 PM
22

Women's privileges trump men's rights, that's why.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/15 08:34 PM
6

Not surprised - apparently there are labs in Switzerland that get some huge percentage of their business from France. Wouldn't be surprised to find out Germans send their tests there too.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/15 08:33 PM
4

Good points. 1) We need to make a bigger deal about r/K selection, because it clearly influences mate selection. (I was about to write "female mate selection", but that's redundant, for primates at least.) K-selected society and patriarchy are, for all practical intents and purposes, the same thing. 2) IQ contraindicates things women find attractive, like violence, criminality and impulsiveness, so IQ serves as a proxy variable with which to filter out undesirable (ie. high-IQ) men. Women typica…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/15 04:53 PM
1

Summary: From a logical perspective, wouldn't TRP'ers want the majority beta population to stay ignorant of TRP? Bluepillism has significant negative externalities, so no.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/15 06:57 AM
2

Feminism was necessary to balance the excesses of American puritanism and weird protestant zealotry Feminism, like all of progressivism, was always a Protestant movement to begin with.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/15 07:33 AM
1

I remember reading that years ago: apparently Justice Crennan was cheating on her husband. I didn't know she married the real father though.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/15 12:13 PM
6

There was the Liam Magill case in Australia, but that was reversed on appeal (surprise).
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 09:29 PM
3

Not if it was done under false pretences, surely?
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 10:50 AM
13

Exactly. It's a straightforward case of fraud. Most Commonwealth jurisdictions have a crime called "obtaining money by deception" or similar, don't know about the States but this sounds like it could qualify - if there's an equivalent crime in Iowa, this might qualify.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 10:47 AM
1

The exponential rate of degeneracy coming up in the next few decades is going to speed our decline. Brothels will still be illegal all over the US though.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 08:14 AM
2

I predicted this a while ago.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 08:08 AM
1

Let me guess: this doctrine somehow won't apply to concealed carry licences.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 08:07 AM
2

And as stated below, polygamy is usually one man, many women. To most women, that'll do - women would rather have part of a winner than all of a loser.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 08:03 AM
5

They're subconsciously (or possibly even consciously) recognising that the results of such investigations threaten to reveal truth and drop hints to BPers, and truth is what women desperately have to suppress to keep BPers in the dark. Can't let those BPers catch any unwanted hints about how women really work.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/15 06:55 PM
2

Microeconomic modelling describes the SMP well, but it's not that free a market. It's more like a crony-capitalist system where the government (inter alia) subsidises the rich, or you could view it instead as a regressive welfare scheme where the people with the highest "income" - ie. women - get income redistributed to them from the "poor", ie. betas and omegas.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/15 11:06 AM
3

You feel sorry for the welfare losers you're paying for?
/r/TheRedPill24/06/15 05:58 PM
8

I've never understood this "sexually compatible" thing. It's one of those relationship-advice-column type things that women and BP manlets care about. I suspect that "sexual incompatibility" is just hamsterese for "he's a pussy-drying beta".
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 07:59 AM
1

Men have a natural inclination toward brownnosing women. It's a way of begging for approval and sex from women.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/15 07:02 PM
95

Women telling you that you need a woman to be happy is like a car company telling you that you need a car to be happy: duh, of course they're going to say that. They're just talking their own book.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/15 06:49 PM
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If you are a man, you are part of rape culture. I know … that sounds rough. You’re not a rapist, necessarily. But you do perpetuate the attitudes and behaviors commonly referred to as rape culture. "If you are a woman, you are part of paternity-fraud culture. I know … that sounds rough. You’re not a paternity fraudster, necessarily. But you do perpetuate the attitudes and behaviors commonly referred to as paternity-fraud culture." The benefit of my rephrasing is that it's far closer to the truth…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/15 08:09 AM
1

Women see men as simply devices to provide resources and social status. Anything you do that isn't related to raising your resource-providing ability or social status will be seen by women as a waste of time. This is why male hobbies and pastimes are anathematised and ridiculed by women.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/15 09:30 PM
4

Notice that this article is in the "women's health" section of the Telegraph website. Seems more like a warning to women than a good news story for men. So I wasn't the only person who noticed. Interesting Freudian slip, isn't it? As for male contraception: we've been hearing these male oral-contraceptive stories for years now. Never gets anywhere.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/15 10:38 AM
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"People need to find their own way into love and relationships" Women (even prostitutes, evidently) resent men availing themselves of prostitutes: they view it as a form of cheating, as if the guy is doing an end run around the "proper" way of getting sex. "need to find their own way" is hamsterese for "he's breaking the rules and I don't like it".
/r/TheRedPill18/06/15 10:26 PM
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I think they want it to be more clear to them which men are risk taking alphas who won't fail the feminism shit test. Also, they're trying to stop the traditional female problem of getting platezoned, by giving women legal leverage against it ("commit to me or I accuse you of raping me"). So affirmative consent is, in essence, a way of weeding out betas and forcing alphas to commit.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/15 06:26 AM
3

First cousin, I think. Simon has some famous siblings though.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/15 05:09 PM
14

why do women get so much credit for being empathic? ~50 per cent of the population is women: is it really that surprising that at least half of the population talks up women? It's just women giving women credit (of course they'd do that), and manginas tagging along with it for female approval. Women plus manginas is a majority of the population - and so you get a majority of the population in awe of female "empathy". Women talk up women, and men gamely tag along with it, hoping for some scraps o…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/15 05:07 PM
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The bandsaw whine of constant complaint from women is a way of increasing their political power, which they can then parlay into transferring more benefits and privileges to women and transferring more obligations and duties to men. You can consider it the bootloader for the rentseeking machine.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/15 04:59 PM
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Women don't care if their country gets overrun with foreigners. All women care about is getting into the harems of the top guys, whether they're locals or foreign conquerors. As far as women are concerned, one is as good as the other. Patriotism is a guy thing.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 04:09 PM
23

Drive a German car and compare it to any other country's cars, that's probably why people like German engineering.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 04:01 PM
1

I work in a genetics testing lab half of the staff is female Er, they're lab technicians, not scientists.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 01:29 PM
59

Female criticisms of men invariably boil down to "he's not a sexy alpha thug".
/r/TheRedPill10/06/15 06:24 PM
3

The minimum rating should be 0, not 1.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/15 07:53 AM
9

Female prison employee may have helped murderers escape Headline you'll never see: "Female prison employee may have helped computer criminals escape"
/r/TheRedPill09/06/15 08:34 PM
99

And their mates are going to call them "hardon"
/r/TheRedPill07/06/15 12:35 PM
16

Women go along with this crap because they're herd animals obsessed with social status. Men go along with women because the average guy, as redpillers should know, is a pussybeggaring mangina who hopes his brownnosing will help him get lucky.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/15 11:05 AM
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Sure - they'll use it as an excuse to hector us some more about how we're not tolerant enough of these freaks.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/15 06:29 AM
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Are you using the pronoun "she" unironically?
/r/TheRedPill03/06/15 01:43 PM
5

I'll never understand why women try to buy men over with this tactic. But telling them what they find hot and that they have a chance is obviously a ploy. You answer your own question: But obviously the beta boys who want a girl more than anything will be happy to lend a hand to these fempsychos so long as they say that the betas have a shot. This ploy serves two purposes: first, it causes men to enlist themselves voluntarily in the service of women/feminists, and second, it serves as a good heu…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/15 10:04 AM
37

"Waaaaah, betas are looking at me!"
/r/TheRedPill31/05/15 06:27 PM
3

We used to discuss that one all the time a decade ago or so at Mancoat.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/15 12:11 PM
92

1) She calls her husband her "SO" (significant other). She can't even bring herself to use the word "husband". (We know they're married, because she refers to her "sister-in-law".) 2) Money toward a tattoo? Oh gag. (Furthermore, a spouse can't "give" the other spouse money: moving money from one spousal pocket to another doesn't change the consolidated position of the couple. It just struck me as odd.) 3) "Myself and my sister-in-law". Why can't people use pronouns properly? Needs to brush up on…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/15 09:47 PM
33

The dilemma here for women is how to create a narrative that legitimises female infidelity while not legitimising male infidelity. I'm sure they'll think of something eventually.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/15 08:17 PM
1

SJWs (who are actually Protestants) dislike religion for the same reason women dislike prostitution and businesses dislike other businesses: they're competition.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/15 03:03 PM
1

Female friends can be good for social proof I don't believe this. The only social proof you get from a woman is when 1) she's high value and 2) you're fucking her.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/15 11:43 AM
3

Why are you even bothering? What's the point of worrying about the opinions of unimportant people?
/r/TheRedPill29/05/15 07:24 PM
2

"Rent-seeking" is a term from economics. Basically, rent-seeking behaviour (I'm going to simplify slightly) is when you change the distribution of income without increasing the amount of income. That, essentially, is what feminism boils down to: trying to redistribute men's income toward women. But you can see the same logic play out in non-economic fields as well. For example, banning brothels is a form of rent-seeking by women - they're trying to outlaw the competition. Clamping down on foreig…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/15 03:00 PM
1

The problem with terms like "feminism" and "leftism" is that they provide opportunities for people to play stupid and play no-true-Scotsman type semantic games with you. (The problem with "neoliberalism", by contrast, is that it doesn't even mean anything to begin with.) This is why I recommend using a term like "female rentseeking" instead of "feminism". Not only does it more precisely identify the behaviour, it doesn't leave any room for semantic game-playing.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/15 10:45 AM
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Well, if women were lying about the acceptability of one, why wouldn't they lie about the acceptability of the other? However true your reservations might be, they don't explain why people have more liberal views on abortion than on pornography (figures broken down by sex would be even more helpful). Are you saying that people are more likely to lie about one than the other? The point I was trying to make is that women self-servingly support or oppose things based on how helpful/unhelpful they a…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/15 08:49 AM
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Yup. 1) As I explained here a while ago, the push for gay "marriage" is a stalking horse for what women really want - socially accepted polygamy. 2) If you look at the second list at that link (acceptable/wrong), you notice something unusual: pornography is less acceptable than abortion. Abortion is 45/45, whereas porn is 34/62 against. That means at least 11% of the survey population thinks that abortion is fine, but porn isn't? How does the logic there work? (That's a rhetorical question - as …
/r/TheRedPill29/05/15 05:58 AM
11

All women, regardless of attractiveness, will gladly help themselves to the bounty of feminist rentseeking - but only the uggos will actually self-identify as "feminists". The uggos need feminism, it's the only sociosexual strategy they have. The better-looking women, however, don't need to - hence allowing them to harvest the benefits of beining non-feminist or even "anti-feminist", while still enjoying the benefits/rents/privileges extracted by feminism: attractive women win coming and going. …
/r/TheRedPill28/05/15 06:48 AM
5

Like everything else women say and do, "strong independent woman" is just a tactic: they don't actually believe it. If the tactic works, they use it; if it doesn't, they discard it. There's no sincere belief or principle there.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/15 05:50 PM
2

putsch80 is right - the poor sociometric outcomes for kids of "single parent" households are mostly because of single mothers (something like 70+ percent of single parents are women, depending on the country). This is why single mothers draw more flak from sane people than single fathers: the typical single mother is a loser (insert long list of TRP stereotypes here, all true), whereas the typical single father is probably not all that much different to the average guy. Also bear in mind the abu…
/r/TheRedPill26/05/15 07:19 PM
2

What isn't abundant is male commitment. It's still more abundant than it needs to be.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/15 09:08 AM
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They're not wasting time debating morality like some of you are. This could be the TRP tagline. Women don't sit around asking themselves "gosh, is it morally permissible to mislead men about the female sociosexual strategy?" They just do it without batting an eyelid and never have any qualms about it.
/r/TheRedPill20/05/15 04:42 PM
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MSM reports on reality AFTER it happens. Naturally, it lags. The media leads society, but lags academia. Basically, the way consent is manufactured in the west these days is this: academia/universities create the moral hysterias (eg. global warming, gay rights, etc), the media/entertainment industries disseminate the hysteria and propagandise on their behalf, and the government enforces the result.
/r/TheRedPill20/05/15 06:14 AM
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1) Maybe someone got traction with a "legalise it for the benefit of the hookers" argument. 2) There's an older strain of pro-prostitution thought in feminism, back when their primary enemy was Christians rather than non-alpha men. That might have been what legalisers were acting on. "Support feminism and we'll legalise brothels" would have sounded like a good bribe to a naive beta. Now that Christianity has been mostly eliminated as a threat to the female sociosexual strategy, they're now remov…
/r/TheRedPill19/05/15 07:36 PM
2

Those are just exceptions to the rule. "Certain cities"? Why aren't brothels legal everywhere in the west?
/r/TheRedPill19/05/15 05:23 PM
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"Women engage in indirect aggression and slut-shaming, even in clinical research studies. Why?" Well duh. Women are always trying to shut down and ban competition - porn, prostitution, foreign wives, other women...
/r/TheRedPill19/05/15 08:30 AM
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The human mind is indeed known to subconsciously work like that. It's insincere, but it's not consciously insincere. They really believe what the hamster shits out.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/15 06:40 AM
0

I don't think there'd ever be a case of a woman pining for her ex's kids in the first place. Pining for someone else's kids seems to be exclusively a guy thing. Women are too mercenary to care much about other people's kids anyway. Men have to care about the whole tribe, women only have to care about their own.
/r/TheRedPill16/05/15 08:08 PM
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Sure, it's emotive all right. I was just pointing out that their emotiveness isn't sincere.
/r/TheRedPill16/05/15 03:28 PM
8

That sounds like a motte-and-bailey argument. Specifically, the motte is the definition you give, whereas the bailey is the definition down_with_whomever gives. BPers use the latter, but when challenged, they retreat to the former definition ("no, I'm only talking about those weirdos"). What they really have in mind, though, is the guys in down_with_whomever's definition - guys who don't get it. That's who they really mean by "nice guys", and they only retreat to the autistic-weirdo definition w…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/15 03:15 PM
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You're being naive if you think it's genuinely an "emotive" subject. That's just women feigning concern. The real goal is to minimise competition (no prostitution, no foreign wives) by any means necessary - laws, social mores, shaming tactics, etc.
/r/TheRedPill16/05/15 03:03 PM
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Oh, absolutely. She looks like a dyke. I don't particularly care what she has to say, I was just pointing out an example of manipulative shaming language.
/r/TheRedPill16/05/15 12:55 PM
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The second picture you linked to is another example of the "nice guys are the REAL assholes" talking point (which, not surprisingly, has an "assholes are the REAL nice guys" corollary). She does the "I like confidence, not asshole-ness" thing, which conveniently fails to identify what the distinction is. The reason why is because the real distinction is social status. A guy with high social status is "confident", a guy without social status is an "asshole", creep, loser, etc. It's astonishing th…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/15 12:32 PM
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I'm just left wondering how can anyone on Reddit (or anywhere) read something like that, and still act like the "CC" and "AF/BB" doesn't exist. No-one (well, no woman... BP guys are a different story) sincerely believes the carousel and AFBB don't exist. Women just strategically deny RP because playing stupid is part of the strategy. Part of the AFBB strategy is pretending that there is no AFBB strategy. (I mean, think about it. Suppose every woman woke up tomorrow and started telling people, "g…
/r/TheRedPill14/05/15 05:14 PM
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Ahaha. There's a comment there that includes this gem: I have a few other odd theories. It seems to me that women under 30 are really bad at picking decent men to date, and it takes them until their mid-30s to smarten up and start looking at men who are stable rather than "cool" men who can't even support themselves and sponge off of her. However, by that time they're now saddled with a bunch of kids from the loser(s). And that's the attractive women; the unattractive ones (which is the majority…
/r/TheRedPill14/05/15 05:04 PM
27

And she comes pre-cuckolded too. What a bargain... not.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/15 03:26 PM
2

Education doesn't do much for a guy's SMV either. It's more of a heuristic women use ("how will this education increase his income/status") rather than status-raising in itself. Women don't look for intelligence in men, I doubt formal education is much different.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/15 08:28 AM
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Women self-servingly confound the two in order to sell their promiscuity as a plus ("I'm really experienced!").
/r/TheRedPill09/05/15 07:05 PM
1

TRP is not a reaction or counter to feminism. They are simply two competing systems of thought that overlap in the sphere of gender and sexual dynamics. Yup. "Feminism" is just that set of beliefs, views and actions that further the female sociosexual strategy. Analogously TRP is the set of beliefs, views and actions that further the male strategy.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/15 07:24 AM
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Instead, the perverted definition seems closer to "anything that exposes what we really think, feel, or do, which isn't complimentary to us entirely." Of course, as applied to the social and sexual strategies of feminism. Women don't want men to understand them (specifically, female sociosexual strategy), because the more a man understands about the female strategy, the more he can evade female strategy and further his own. Naturally, women don't like that. So, not surprisingly, women define att…
/r/TheRedPill02/05/15 07:07 AM
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The main use case of "egalitarianism" is in black-knighting, eg. using "equality" type arguments to stick women with the consequences of their actions. It's a countermeasure to female rentseeking. Egalitarianism is just a tactic: you're not actually supposed to believe it. Some MRAs get this, some don't.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/15 06:30 AM
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It would be an interesting study that investigated women's attitudes to sociosexual strategy based on whether they had had daughters, sons, both, or neither. What you're arguing is that if a woman has one or more sons, she'll be less favourably disposed toward female sociosexual strategy than a woman who doesn't have sons. Intuitively this is a reasonable guess, but one of the things I've noticed over the years is women's blithe disregard for their sons' welfare and sociosexual strategy.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/15 06:03 PM
11

That's precisely why "social acceptance" (read: female acceptance) of it will never occur. Just settle for legalisation.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/15 03:09 PM
12

That's actually the whole point of Vasalgel: stupid people can't "forget" to take it (unlike using condoms or the pill), you get it once and it's done, there's no need to "use" it constantly.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/15 07:42 PM
16

After all the bitching from women about how they have to bear all the responsibility for contraception, they should be thrilled by Vasalgel and donating lots of money to it, right?
/r/TheRedPill29/04/15 06:31 PM
6

Male contraception should help reverse dysgenic trends by reducing the fertility of stupid guys. I doubt male contraception would make much difference to the fertility of smart guys.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/15 06:27 PM
12

All this would vanish in an instant if white knights would stop being white knights.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 03:26 PM
1

Perhaps intelligent, socially adept males don't have the sexual impediment you think they do. I'm operating under the assumption that the stereotype about nerds striking out with women is true. Maybe the stereotype is false, but age of first sexual activity rises with IQ, which would at least corroborate it. I simply can't imagine that the "turn-off" supposedly caused by high intelligence offsets the tremendous boost given by greater wealth. Oh, absolutely. No argument from me on that one. At wo…
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 09:01 AM
1

When I say intelligence I'm not referring to Mr. Pocket Protector, intellectuals (those who trade in ideas), or the super-educated, I'm referring to g. All those groups have high g, so it's not obvious what the difference should be. It's entirely possible that your individual experience has lead you to the conclusion that highly intelligent people are mostly socially inept and involuntarily celibate, but let me profess that this simply isn't true.. The argument I was trying to make is that high-…
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 08:44 AM
1

Good point (at least, your hypothesis sounds convincing). So, if intelligence is collinear to social status, and women are attracted to social status, then the more intelligent a man is, the easier time he should have finding women... which is the exact opposite of what we find. Hence, there's something about intelligence that repulses women.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 03:53 AM
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How did the world ugliest man salman rushdie attract Lakshmi? There are numerous brilliant men who attract very high SMV women. That's because they're high-status, not because they're intelligent.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 03:50 AM
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There might be a reason for women to be turned off by a feature collinear to intelligence, but I don't see any evidence that high-IQ males are necessarily more beta than lower-IQ males. For example, it could be that (say) intelligence is collinear to risk aversion, and risk aversion is unattractive to women (high-status men can afford to take risks). But risk aversion isn't "beta" or "alpha" behaviour, it's simply rational or irrational. Another potential hypothesis (you hear this one from women…
/r/TheRedPill27/04/15 10:38 AM
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Yup. That's what's usually called "wit". When women talk about how they like "smart" guys, what they usually mean is "witty" or "has high verbal facility".
/r/TheRedPill27/04/15 07:34 AM
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Women don't care about intellect. If they did, nerds would be inundated with women. Intellect is a turn-off to women.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/15 06:39 AM
3

Yup, exactly. It was feigned outrage.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/15 04:21 AM
10

Why do I feel like my self-worth is determined by how many girls I bang, or am banging? Possibly because that's the main heuristic women use to estimate a man's value: you might have internalised the system by which women assess the value of men.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/15 01:20 AM
1

I can't see it being all that difficult just to get sperm once vasalgel is introduced. Yeah, but you can't put an innocent betabux on the hook for 18 years of mommy support like that. The point of male contraception is to prevent spermjacking, not artificial insemination.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/15 02:43 PM
1

I'd also be interested in any such links you have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JymN5yu-K_o is a good one in that vein.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/15 02:41 PM
2

The widespread suspended fertility of the male gender completely and utterly demolishes the AF/BB strategy. No baby is born without the permission of a man, and that is also a good thing! The first sentence is wrong, the second is right. I doubt contraception will do anything about the AF/BB strategy; what it will do is greatly cut down on spermjacking and "accidental" pregnancies. Overall, good post though. We need to have a LOT more discussion about the sociopolitical aspects of scientific/tec…
/r/TheRedPill20/04/15 02:00 AM
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Historically, the main use case of polygamy has been polygyny, ie. one guy having multiple wives. One woman having multiple husbands in the manner you suggest (alpha for sex, beta for provision) openly is something that can only occur when you have brainwashed cucks like the guy in the OP's link. You'd have to brainwash a guy to stick around with a "wife" they don't get to have sex with. Hence you'd expect most men in such a situation to leave. So polygamy will necessarily be mostly polygyny (on…
/r/TheRedPill14/04/15 10:45 PM
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The other comment in this thread is that poly marriages should be legalised. I predicted this years ago. Women support fag "marriage" not because they actually care about fags (the social status benefits of supporting gay causes are nice, but purely a side benefit), but because they're actually aiming for state-sanctioned polygamy (basically, they want social approval of 80/20, and it manifests itself as a desire for official sanction of polygamy), and fag marriage is their way of softening soci…
/r/TheRedPill14/04/15 07:21 PM
2

No, I see sexual strategy as a zero-sum game. From Rollo: The Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies: For one gender’s sexual strategy to succeed the other gender must compromise or abandon their own. The male and female strategies conflict, and hence they can't both succeed simultaneously.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 05:04 AM
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BP men are trying to convince themselves because of their heavy investment in BP nonsense. BP women, by contrast, are just trying to sabotage male strategising in order to facilitate their own strategy (always remember Rollo's cardinal rule of strategy: for one sex's strategy to win, the other has to lose). Sabotaging the other side's strategising is itself a strategy (or meta-strategy, I suppose - a strategy to make it easier to implement your sociosexual strategy).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 10:18 PM
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Interesting, because most women dislike intelligent men Can confirm. What's worse is that people can accurately judge a guy's intelligence from looking at his face, so being a high-IQ guy is basically a life sentence of walking around with "omega" written into your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 09:59 PM
1

It doesn't have to mean anything on its own - it just has to be a useful heuristic for inferential purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 10:44 PM
2

Attention whore with common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 10:42 PM
1

If you don't care about the answer, why do you keep repeating the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 03:26 PM
2

What is positive about men who have a high partner count? Maybe you should ask the women who chase them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 03:08 PM
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Why? Because, as Rollo's cardinal rule of sexual strategies says, for one sex’s sexual strategy to succeed, the other sex must compromise or abandon their own. Women are simply talking their own book: it's immoral for men to learn how to optimise their strategy. Women cynically feign oh-so-great concern about how immoral RP is (eg. see picture linked in the OP), but it's just self-interested rentseeking by women, who will adopt whatever tactic works. It's their genetic legacy at stake - anything…
/r/TheRedPill05/04/15 05:16 PM
2

This is more like a corollary than a law, but nitpicking aside, very interesting.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/15 02:49 PM
11

Maternity wards are like high security prisons, modern facilities are built so parents can see their baby at all times and most procedures are done in the same room. Society takes maternity very, very seriously. By contrast, paternity is "socially constructed". How convenient.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/15 05:28 PM
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It seems like there is an overwhelming amount of people on reddit who don't understand metaphors. Ability to grasp metaphor is an intelligence trait (this is why IQ tests include questions about metaphors). Most people are too stupid to understand metaphors.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/15 05:23 PM
3

It's partially for the government's benefit: a birth certificate is a legal document, it HAS to be accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 07:36 AM
1

yeah it will be great if we knew the father of every child The point of paternity testing at birth isn't so much to figure out who the father is, but to ensure that the person who's named on the birth certificate as the father really is the father. it would ruin a lot of relationships So do you "agree with the concept" or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 07:35 AM
1

Life outcomes are mostly a function of IQ, not "upbringing".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 07:31 AM
8

Feigning concern over the cost of paternity testing is one of the things the pro-paternity-fraud crowd invariably do when the notion of compulsory paternity testing at birth comes up: suddenly, all these taxeating women magically turn into small-government types instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 07:26 AM
1

So was I at first. I was imagining one house of the legislature elected by women and the other elected by men. The latter would be perpetually passing bills to legalise brothels and the former would be passing bills to ban foreign competition in the marriage market.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 11:23 AM
2

Fascinating post, but i don't know why this is so complicated to people. NAWALT is two things: First, it's a shit test: are you alpha enough to see through my protestations? If not, you don't get it, and hence you're a beta. Second, it's designed to get you on the defensive: the more time and effort you waste bogged down in apologias for your position, the less time and effort you have to spare to spread RP crimethink. So: never act defensive when you AWALT, and treat NAWALT like you'd treat any…
/r/TheRedPill18/03/15 10:23 PM
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Why is it that the more women become "empowered", the less responsibility for their own choices they seem to have? Simple: the more sociopolitical power women have (ie. the more "empowered" women are), the more benefits they divert to themselves and the more responsibilities they divert to men. Basically, they're using their sociopolitical power to free themselves from responsibility.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/15 12:31 PM
10

"Equality" was only ever a motte for the bailey of rentseeking. Feminism is just a gigantic motte-and-bailey argument.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 04:33 PM
7

Exactly. This is why I keep asking: what do you think women prefer, 2am feedings or 2am alpha cock?
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 08:46 AM
35

bigotry Women have nothing but hatred for anyone who blows the whistle on female sociosexual strategy, and they'll feign the existence of as much moral turpitude on our part as necessary to stop the truth getting out. Remember Rollo's cardinal rule: sociosexual strategy is a zero-sum game, and women will stop at nothing to make sure they win, ie. men lose. Accusations of moral turpitude are just one more tactic in their toolbox.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 06:05 PM
1

Oh, it's just a hunch. It's probably one of those fake things the TRP high command beamed into my brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 05:07 PM
2

How does TRP account for all the "averages"? By using the alpha-beta-omega spectrum. You're assuming all guys are alpha or omega, and ignoring the ~70%+ in the middle. And yet, how does TRP account for the millions upon millions of guys who aren't buff, rich, big swinging Alpha dicks yet still succeed in the sexual marketplace? I'm talking about average guys who are able to secure mates (long or short term) with some regularity. They get settled for when their women don't get what they really wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 11:46 AM
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Rationing sex is the premier bargaining chip for western wives today. They aren't going to give up that power easily. They'll probably try banning VR sex. Given that women incessantly try to restrict and ban competition, do you think virtual sex is somehow going to get overlooked?
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 05:12 PM
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Women use their sociopolitical power to legitimise their sociosexual strategy and delegitimise the male sociosexual strategy. No surprises there. Basically, they approve of themselves and disapprove of the opposition. This is why I keep describing female sociosexual strategy as a form of rentseeking, because women are forever trying to use society and the law to benefit themselves and disbenefit their opponents.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 07:45 AM
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The problem is very simple: women don't want to get married in their 20s because the carousel is too much fun. Women only want to get married when they see their SMV declining and they want to lock in the best prospect they can before their SMV declines much further. So it doesn't matter how marriageable 20-something men are: women of appropriate age simply aren't interested in getting married and forgoing the fun of the carousel. Marriage is dead for 20-somethings because women simply aren't in…
/r/TheRedPill10/03/15 12:24 PM
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spoke at a professional conference where 2 dozen men in the audience shout-chanted for her to take her shirt off Professional conference? Plenty of witnesses then. Have any come forward to date?
/r/TheRedPill09/03/15 02:50 PM
2

The Reichstag fires are being lit in the tech industry.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/15 12:33 PM
5

make sure that the woman knows you can and will insist on a paternity test for every child you two make. You don't even have to call it a paternity test. Just get tested by 23andMe and show your woman how the Relative Finder feature works ("look at all my distant cousins!"). Then tell her that when you have a kid, you're going to get it tested at 23andMe (errr, for the DNA health results). She'll get the hint.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 09:21 PM
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Problem is, parents vote in the interests of their daughters, not their sons. Sons - men - are simply expected to get by. Mothers vote for team woman and fathers vote for team daughter. Sons get screwed. Team woman vote + team daughter vote == a solid majority of the population. Democracy will never deliver anything but more rentseeking that benefits women.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 07:20 PM
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Women are forever trying to outlaw men's options while maximising their own. You can buy vibrators at the supermarket but oh no, don't you dare try buying sex or going to a strip joint. Could it be any more obvious what they're trying to do? The basic template is: they're extremely liberal when it comes to female options (hence maximising female options) and extremely conservative when it comes to male options (hence minimising male options). I guess there's not really much "conservative" or "li…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 07:13 PM
3

Yup. Homemaking has traditionally been a female job only because of comparative advantage.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/15 08:29 AM
6

This post might help: http://www.justfourguys.com/do-women-pursue-sex-with-alphas-for-the-commitment-or-for-the-sex/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 04:56 PM
1

They aren’t just well-meaning folks who want you to avoid the hate-trap of TRP. They want to make sure you never fall into the understanding behind why these things work. That a million times. All the feigned blue/purple concern about "hate" is just a shaming tactic to shame men out of discovering the truth about female sociosexual strategy.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:07 PM
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Makes you wonder whether there's a connection between being really smart and being vulnerable to beta propaganda. Sure - look at Scott Aaronson for example. Jim Donald mentioned the same thing just recently: Smart people have a tendency to deal with girls on the basis of what they are taught, rather than instinct, hence, the blue pill generates men who are very bad at women. The smarter you are, the better you are at absorbing and accepting misinformation. Read that last sentence and burn it int…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 03:54 PM
1

My point is that if the people who are offended by videogames are also offended by 50SOG (and hence the people who aren't offended by one are also un-offended by the other), then you'd expect videogames and 50SOG to have similar rates of female disapproval.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 08:11 AM
1

from my perception I would say that the same people who label videogames as being sexist are also offended by "50 Shades..." If that were true, then video games and 50SOG would have similar rates of female disapproval. But they don't.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 07:48 AM
14

Anyone who thinks status can't overcome a lack of looks seriously needs to look at that guy's hideous mug.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 11:43 AM
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I don't get it when people say men are going through a midlife crisis because they are fucking someone younger See babydocnorman's comment below. They're just trying to shame you out of going for the competition. Just ignore it. The "midlife crisis" is one of the social conventions in place to salve middle-aged women's butthurtness at not being as attractive as the younger competition. Women are forever trying to rig the SMP/MMP in their favour.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 04:24 AM
2

Why not try to change things to be more fair for everyone? Because you won't succeed, and so it's a waste of time.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 08:01 PM
1

"Dehumanize" is meaningless mumbo-jumbo used for the purposes of emotional manipulation (so, not surprisingly, women do it a lot).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 10:35 AM
2

Some of these points are sooo stupid: Part I: What are America’s young, unmarried women looking for in a mate? A steady job. So women want their betabux to, you know, have actual bux? Wow, no shit Sherlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 05:24 PM
4

This is the feminist rentseeking machine, gentlemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 05:19 PM
3

Neither have I. Strongalfalfa reads like the feminist Kay Hymowitz. She reads like every TRP cliche combined. No wonder people think she's a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 05:18 PM
2

Of course there's a deficit of "marriageable men" - men have finally ginned up the confidence to say no to the AFBB scam, and are instead spinning plates, running game, or just ignoring the whole betabux exploitation complex altogether, all of which are sensible things to do under the circumstances. Get married to some used-up ex-slut fresh off the carousel? Yeah nah I think I might spend my money on myself thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 05:17 PM
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Like I keep saying: women will never approve of RP thinking because women will never approve of men finding out the truth about female sociosexual strategy. The less men know about female sociosexual strategy, the easier it is for women to optimise their strategy. (Remember Rollo's cardinal rule of sexual strategies: for one side to win, the other side has to lose. Sociosexual strategy is zero-sum.) Hence, it's in women's interest to make sure men don't find out the truth, ie. RP. To this end, w…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/15 03:21 PM
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This is why prostitution, brothels etc will never be socially acceptable: women are never going to approve of competition. Just settle for legality, I suppose.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 07:58 AM
3

And here I was hoping you really did have a VN commodore
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 04:35 PM
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scared sh*tless of any woman with half a brain. A great example of narcissistic self-flattery.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 07:27 PM
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Breaking news: women still trying to outlaw competition in the SMP. (Incidentally, this probably explains why SJWs are the ones most opposed to prostitution - as they're mostly fat ugly obeasts, they're the ones who have the most to lose from legalised prostitution/brothels, etc. The more attractive a woman is, the less worried she'll be by competition, not to mention the potential lure of working as a prostitute.)
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 04:04 PM
2

Are you a native English speaker? If you're not, the connotations of "double standard" might be lost on you.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 06:23 AM
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Males are not the same as females. Indeed. That's why they have different standards. The term "double" standards implies that the same standard should be applied to both.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/15 08:34 AM
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Yes. It's a double standard. Different standards for different people in different circumstances is not "double" standards. I have no idea why supposedly redpill guys keep repeating this feminist boilerplate.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/15 07:22 AM
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More evidence that women REALLY hate the idea of men paying for sex.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 10:27 AM
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I'm far more comfortable with a physical connection than I am with a mental/emotional one. Translation from hamsterese into English: Physical connection == hawt, fun, and exciting; mental/emotional connection == boring, lame, and faggy.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/15 02:54 PM
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1) Luxury goods are superior goods, eg. Bentleys. 2) Lesser-looking women "afford" high-SMV men by not getting commitment from them. 3) Alphas are a typical Veblen good - preselection causes increased female demand for alphas, which shows up as the demand schedule for alphas moving upward and outward (see the right graph at the link).
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 04:04 PM
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What you're describing is more like a Veblen good than a Giffen good. The key difference is that Giffen goods are inferior goods (the standard textbook example is potatoes during the Irish famine), and alphas are by definition are not inferior goods (an inferior good is one where demand falls as income rises - and "income" in this context is female attractiveness). By contrast, Veblen goods are superior goods (ie. the percentage of your income spent on them increases as your income increases). T…
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 04:40 AM
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I guess it depends on how you define "ego". When women talk about the "fragile male ego", I doubt they're referring to men being too emotionally vulnerable; they're just marshalling some psychobabble to bash men.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 08:40 AM
1

Before anyone else fucks this up: wanting to upgrade to a hotter girl is not "hypergamy". Hypergamy is when social status is a turn-on. Men don't get off to their woman's social status, hence men aren't hypergamous.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 04:35 AM
1

The "fragile male ego" is hamsterese.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 04:32 AM
3

Women's persecution complex has a strange habit of diverting more and more privileges and income to women, and more and more obligations and costs to men. Not surprisingly, women have a huge persecution complex. As a result, women self-servingly anathematise anything that threatens to work against female sociosexual strategy. It will always happen - it's simply a rent-seeking move - and it will always work to a greater or lesser extent, because people simply assume women are good people. What el…
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 06:28 PM
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This is apropos (https://anarchopapist.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/redpilling/): What is it to red pill, or as I will now refer to it, redpill? What is entailed by redpilling is not merely the learning of new information, but information situated and arranged such that one experiences a quasi-traumatic shift in one’s interpretation of the world. It is not merely knowledge, but knowledge of a kind which introduces a previously unknown hermeneutic. After redpilling, one cannot go back. One is “unplug…
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 02:29 PM
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Exactly. It just goes to show how utterly ingrained shit-testing is into the female firmware. They do it automatically, all the time, without ever noticing it.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 06:46 AM
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The "WeHuntedTheMammoth" blog run by that fat retard David Futrelle actually used to have banner ads for PUAhate. They've done their best to hope that you forget this and have been trying to distance themselves from that website. O_O (honestly lol'ing so hard) I wonder if you you can find any on Archive.org's wayback machine?
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 06:45 AM
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Feminists are getting behind the "Swedish model" of prostitution, where selling sex is legal but buying it is illegal.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/15 10:59 AM
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Oh, I see what you mean. I'm inclined to agree - RP thinking is a massive untapped market, because we have the truth, or at least something reasonably approximating it. The BP world has nothing that works, nothing that makes sense, and is bound for disruption like any other fat lazy monopoly.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/15 04:07 PM
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Maybe it did, that's beside the point. My point is that these hit pieces are coordinated by journalists working behind the scenes, so don't be surprised to see more anti-manosphere propaganda.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/15 03:10 PM
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Gamergate showed us that sympathetic journalists coordinate these things behind the scenes. Remember the rash of "gamers are dead" articles a few months ago? That wasn't a coincidence - they coordinate the party line beforehand. So, don't be surprised if you see more articles like this in the near future.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/15 08:43 AM
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That's exactly the comment I was thinking of, incidentally. Because it can't be repeated often enough: The goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/15 05:12 PM
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Women simply don't like men having options. Simple as that.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/15 09:42 AM
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The proper way to establish an LTR is to promote a plate whose actions have inspired emotional investment. The problem with this is that the sort of woman who would be a plate/FWB is not the sort of woman who has the sort of values compatible with an LTR.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/15 06:48 PM
6

Two different standards for two different groups in two different sets of circumstances is not "double" standards.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/15 07:56 AM
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People, particularly women, only push for equality when it results in privileges or economic rents being transferred to them, not from them. This is, for example, why there's vast amounts of government propaganda about promoting women into high-powered professional jobs that men have dominated to date, but surprisingly little government propaganda about promoting women into ditch-digger, garbo, or other unskilled manual jobs that men have also dominated to date.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/15 05:14 AM
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Men and women are different, therefore must have different standards. Correct - but that's not "double standards".
/r/TheRedPill25/01/15 05:11 AM
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Heck, 75% of women don't identify as feminists because they disagree with it I doubt it. Women don't need to identify as "feminists" in order to benefit from feminist rentseeking. They'll benefit the same either way. So, by not self-identifying as feminist, women gain any benefits from denying "feminist" thede affiliation, while still having access to the benefits of feminist rentseeking.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/15 12:49 PM
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Could it be that society is finally coming to its senses? Half of society is women, hence half of society will never warm up to RP thinking. RP is, inter alia, a scammer-avoidance consumer protection program. Needless to say, the scammers don't like the consumers becoming better informed. Scammers don't want the marks finding out about the scam.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/15 12:44 PM
3

The point is to make peace-of-mind testing illegal.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/15 11:22 AM
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Society's morality is (very noisily and sanctimoniously) determined by women. Who, invariably, use this moral-arbiter role to approve of things that benefit the female sociosexual strategy, and disapprove of things that disbenefit the female sociosexual strategy. It's rentseeking (ban opponents, subsidise yourself) all the way down, people.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 08:06 PM
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Since when is a plate equal to a slut? This is a good example of "a distinction without a difference".
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 12:46 PM
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but sexual freedom produces a fitter and more successful society. The problem is that "evolutionarily fitter" and "good for civilisation" do not necessarily coincide. In fact, with women, they mostly don't overlap. If you allow women to have untrammelled sexuality, you get... what you have now: a society with massive SMP inequality, women breeding IQs into the ground by thugfucking, etc, etc, etc. Is that good for maintaining civilisation? No. Second, even "fitter" is questionable: people's evol…
/r/TheRedPill19/01/15 12:44 PM
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I doubt women much like the idea of getting dealt out of the process by surrogacy. (I suspect the only thing keeping surrogacy for men legal is the fact that women can use it too, and it would be too obviously a rentseeking move to ban it for one sex without banning it for the other.)
/r/TheRedPill17/01/15 05:13 PM
3

Just more female rentseeking.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/15 08:55 AM
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That's exactly what I was going to say (figured I'd skim the comments first to see if anyone beat me to it). Basically, it's sunk cost fallacy stuff: if you've spent your entire life labouring under blue-pill/beta delusions, you're at risk of continuing to do so because the pain of admitting you were wrong ("omg, I wasted all that time and effort and money, shit") is so high. So, bluepillers form a psychological schema that justifies their BP investment. Here's a post by Rollo on "ego investment…
/r/TheRedPill16/01/15 05:04 PM
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Because women are only interested in the top ~20% of men, that means that ANY number of men is an "oversupply". There has to be a bottom 80% for there to be a top 20%.
/r/TheRedPill13/01/15 07:15 PM
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There's no alpha female. There's no beta female either. Women don't naturally provide for or protect men. There are high SMV women, and they are attractive and feminine. Exactly. The male social dominance hierarchy doesn't apply to women. Hence, there is no such thing as an "alpha female" (or "beta", etc).
/r/TheRedPill13/01/15 08:33 AM
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Yup. Hypergamy is maladaptive in modern civilisation. It might have been evolutionarily sensible tens of thousands of years ago on the African savannah, but it's counterproductive now.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/15 06:30 PM
4

I remember a case in Texas years ago where a pregnant junkie saw some guy in the paper giving a donation to a school, and just decided to put that guy's name on the birth certificate when she had her kid (probably figured he had money). Anyway she winds up in prison a few years later and the state comes after the "father" on the birth certificate. A DNA test fixed it but the experience cost a lot and wasn't very enjoyable, and the birth certificate can't be amended, apparently.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/15 05:50 AM
1

So, a guy asks a girl, "What do you want in a man?" She replies, "Truthfulness, kindness, intelligence, humor and a good work ethic." Or some such. Words like "like" and "want" are ambiguous, because they can be interpreted in an arousal/alpha or provider/beta context. Women exploit this ambiguity by giving beta traits when asked what they "want" in a guy, what features they "like" in men, etc. Men then eagerly adopt these beta traits, and not surprisingly get nowhere with women.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 06:28 PM
1

'sober monitors' at all fraternity parties Gee, they'll be handy for keeping betas away.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 05:30 PM
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they want some traditions when it benefits them, but not the traditions that don't. This is why I keep saying: "feminism" is just a rent-seeking strategy.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 08:57 AM
5

if you could, would you pick some random hot chick or Megan Fox? I'd pick whichever one is hotter.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 07:15 AM
1

What, you haven't found a pony in that pile yet? Keep looking, I'm sure one of those horse piles will just love to settle down with you when she's "found herself", etc. My understanding is: Anglosphere - shit tier Continental western Europe - marginally better Central, Eastern Europe - better still Latin America - varies; generally OK Developed Asia (eg. Singapore, Japan) - slightly better than Anglosphere, but generally avoid Developing Asia (eg. Philippines, Thailand) - varies; generally OK Af…
/r/TheRedPill07/01/15 03:02 PM
1

Indeed. Add to that disruptions like widespread TRP/MGTOW (with consequent widespread understanding of AFBB, hypergamy, etc), male contraceptive advances, the mainstreaming of game, and increasing foreign marriage rates. The future is going to look really interesting.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/15 08:20 AM
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Women instinctively dislike anything that threatens their beta bux, so they generally dislike the idea of prenups. In this case though it sounds like you just ran into someone who simply doesn't grasp the necessities of the modern marriage market.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/15 07:46 PM
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Refusing a prenup is a pretty good red flag, one would think.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/15 07:43 PM
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She told me I should wait till I'm 30+, then girls will want to settle down with me. I confronted her about that saying, "what, you're saying I should wait till girls want to 'settle' for me, for security??" and she said yes. She saw absolutely nothing wrong with it. It's consistently shocking to me how little concern women have for the welfare of their sons.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/15 07:34 PM
1

Or they'll effectively implement a bachelor's tax to force men into relationships. I doubt there'll ever be a formalised bachelor tax - it's simply too obvious. Anyway, are women really all that interested in relationships? Seems to me that they mostly just want alpha hookups and if they turn into a relationship, great, if they don't, at least she's got something to brag/bragplain about to the other hens. I can see exit taxes being imposed/raised, though. Or forbid foreign brides so that America…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/15 03:10 PM
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Gaslighting was the first thing that struck me, too.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/15 07:30 PM
1

Indeed. The only time a guy can actually be friends with a woman is if she wants to fuck him, but he doesn't want to fuck her (an extremely rare situation). If he wants to fuck her and she doesn't want to fuck him (a far, far more common situation) that's orbiting, not "friendship".
/r/TheRedPill03/01/15 10:14 AM
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Yeah, to be honest, I don't even know how this happens to adults. How and why men waste their time being friends with women is one of those mysteries of life I'll never solve. Even here in TRP, there are hordes of supposed "redpill" guys with female friends. Someone here once said something like "either a woman wants to fuck you or use you, comport yourself accordingly". If she's not fucking you, she's using you. I think you can get a good handle on how red-pillable a guy is by seeing if he thin…
/r/TheRedPill03/01/15 05:54 AM
14

Another way of debunking the "double standard" myth is to point out that men's opinions of women go down with increased n count for women, but women's opinions of men go down with decreased n count for men. In other words, there's a double standard in both directions, ie. there's no double standard. Slut shaming of women is a thing (and for good reason, and there's nowhere near enough of it), but so is virgin shaming of men (for much more mysterious reasons).
/r/TheRedPill03/01/15 05:15 AM
2

The urge to mate and bear children is a very strong one, possibly the strongest in women moreso than men. This is what I don't believe. The urge to mate is a very strong one, I agree with that, but I don't think women have much urge to bear children. Women have children for other reasons - to try to lock in a guy, for welfare money, to get out of a cubicle job they can't be bothered with anymore, etc.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/15 05:43 AM
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Imagine being a woman. What would you rather have, 2am feedings or the all-you-can-fuck alpha cock buffet? No wonder women don't want kids. This is why patriarchy is necessary if you don't want your society to die out. You have to force women to have kids, because if you give women the option of not having kids, they... stop having kids. Men want someone to carry on their line, women just want alpha cock. It's men, not women, who want kids.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 08:29 PM
4

It's not you. It was a flippant comment and the OP shouldn't have made it.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 04:00 PM
8

(Which show was it?) See? Like I keep saying, women intuitively know that convenient male birth control is bad for female sociosexual strategy.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 05:57 AM
0

Women don't want to see your junk.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/14 06:11 AM
5

Relationship advice from a woman tends to be of one of two types: 1) Advice to turn you into a provider beta so she has another BB backup plan when she gets off the carousel. 2) Attraction-killing blue-pill crap. In other words, 1) is cynically self-interested blue-pill crap, 2) is genuine heartfelt blue-pill crap.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/14 01:25 PM
2

One thing I don't understand is why anything red pill has to conflict with feminism? Then you're not looking very hard. Two main reasons: 1) Feminism is a rent-seeking movement that aims to maximise privileges for women and burdens for men, and minimise privileges for men and burdens for women. It scarcely needs explaining why that's opposed by RPers. Feminism is nothing without rent-extraction. Feminism is fundamentally a rent-seeking movement. Any definition of "feminism" that explicitly discl…
/r/TheRedPill26/12/14 09:18 AM
2

There is a questionably large gap between feminists' proclaimed LOVE LOVE LOVE of birth control and this fantastic prospect of male birth control. They are remarkably restrained for such an important development.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/14 08:27 PM
3

Juat another avenue for attractive women to woo top 10% men. Yup. The ever-increasing sluttification of society is actually just competition by women for high-SMV men. As a result, you get this arms race of ever-increasing competition by women - more revealing clothing, the mainstreaming of porn culture, etc. And breastfeeding (Dalrock posted on it just a few weeks ago) is just the latest iteration of it. Of course, the problem to women is that all men (not just the top 10% alpha thugs they're i…
/r/TheRedPill22/12/14 08:24 PM
1

The comments display a total lack of enthusiasm for convenient male birth control. You'd think they'd be more enthusiastic, no?
/r/TheRedPill22/12/14 08:12 PM
1

I'm using sneer quotes on "moderate" to say that neither type actually is moderate.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/14 08:10 PM
0

What I meant is that there's another sort of "moderate" feminist, ie. the sort who isn't actually a feminist in any meaningful sense. The sort of "moderate" feminist you're talking about is just a PR flack for regular (ie. rent-seeking and/or radical) feminism.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/14 07:13 PM
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Not to mention Dunham's actual rape story, where she fessed up to molesting her sister and got precisely zero criticism for it.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/14 07:04 PM
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Some of the "moderate" feminists aren't actually feminists in any meaningful sense, eg. I'm pretty sure by now that Christina Hoff Sommers just calls herself a "feminist" for lulz/trolling purposes.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/14 07:01 PM
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You think a government would fund anything that would prevent spermjacking?
/r/TheRedPill22/12/14 06:56 PM
1

I keep hearing/reading this, but I've never seen any evidence of it. See this tweet from Rollo: https://twitter.com/RationalMale/status/433400249902563328 It links to this story: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/03/male-birth-control-reversible_n_1400708.html Read the comments to the story. What do you notice about the comments?
/r/TheRedPill22/12/14 06:48 PM
5

I'm convinced by now that, from women, denying RP is actually just a shit test: can you see through my denial? If not, you're obviously not alpha, because an alpha would, by definition, be able to see through it.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 12:07 PM
1

Exactly. I forget who said it (it's somewhere in my comments file), but there was a comment here a while ago that said something like "if TRP is false, then women can demonstrate that it's false by acting as though it's false". Of course women don't hate TRP for being lies. They hate it for being true. They don't want this information getting out.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 06:26 AM
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I think you're being naive in taking their criticisms at face value. Women hate TRP for the entirely obvious, entirely self-serving reason that they don't want men finding out about their sociosexual strategy. Talk of "misogyny" and "abuse" (etc, etc, etc) are just a thin moral veneer so they can hamster away the idea that men have the right to learn about female sociosexual strategy.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 07:56 AM
2

How exactly does one "treat women as people" in this mythical sense? How is flirting and expressing a healthy heterosexual interest in an attractive woman dehumanizing? Only in a beta/feminist's mind are the two concepts mutually exclusive. You're taking it too seriously. It's not supposed to make any sense. They're "fnording" (can't think of a better term) the whole idea of male-female relations in order to make men disreputable by default and women reputable by default. This makes hypergamic o…
/r/TheRedPill18/12/14 02:33 PM
3

If you oppose male permission being required for an abortion, then logically you have to oppose female permission being required for a paternity test.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/14 02:25 PM
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Yup. Basically the bottom line is "progressivism for her rights, conservatism for his responsibilities".
/r/TheRedPill17/12/14 06:00 PM
63

Always remember Heartiste's maxim: "The goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality." Feminism, properly apprehended, is just a strategy to maximise female rights and privileges while minimising male rights and privileges, and likewise minimising female responsibilities, duties and obligations while maximising male responsibilities, duties and obligations. It's just a rent-seeking strategy, in other words.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/14 07:03 AM
19

And furthermore, she'll never be happy with a beta, because she's fucked so many alphas that her standards would be stratospheric by now.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/14 04:57 PM
2

High-investment behaviours only make sense when given to high-value women, ie. not the median western female.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/14 08:13 AM
2

It's just more corroborating evidence of Heartiste's maxim: "The goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality." That's the "double standard" you're seeing: women approving of removing constraints on female sexuality, and women approving of increasing constraints on male sexuality.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/14 04:11 PM
12

his wife had a previous relationship and a kid from it wifing up a single mother? hardly redpill
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 03:52 PM
9

I think "equality" is good as a talking point, though (see Alinsky's rule #4 - make the enemy live up to their own book of rules). If strategically feigning concern about "equality" works for us, we should use it; if it doesn't, dump it.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 02:47 PM
7

I met this hella nice guy Women don't describe guys they're aroused by as "nice guys". She's just hamstering to try to convince herself that she's really into the guy.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 07:12 AM
3

women like that (ambitious, smart, driven, hot) will want more as they age than they did when you locked them down at 23-24. Their perspective changes. They want things they never thought they would want, because they become different people. Meanwhile, their value is declining as they head toward the wall.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 08:42 AM
3

you might be thinking of "assortative mating"
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 08:40 AM
1

The success of the "Swedish model" in Europe shows that prostitution is actually becoming less, not more, socially accepted, at least over there. Which was entirely predictable: when women gain any sort of social power, the first thing they do is outlaw the competition.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 08:52 AM
1

Is there any need to tell her?
/r/TheRedPill03/12/14 06:15 PM
31

Notice the ultra-strong frame of the question - "right to choose the father", you know, as if that's even a thing for a married woman.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/14 02:06 PM
10

Has anyone else noticed how modern feminism (or whatever you want to call it - Rollo calls it the "feminine imperative", for example) has become very anti-sex over the past decade or so? As recently as a few years ago you'd never hear about this sort of thing happening. I think what's happening is this: feminism pretended to be pro-sex (pro-porn, etc) as a bribe, to get men onto their side. Now that feminism has won everything it wants, it's taking the bribe away, in order to reduce men's option…
/r/TheRedPill02/12/14 05:42 PM
1

Who marries a woman three years older?
/r/TheRedPill25/11/14 10:24 AM
2

Samantha Armytage: what I know about men a) can fit on the back of one of my small assortment of neurons b) is statistically indistingushable from zero c) must be dug for d) is undetectable even under assay (do I win anything?)
/r/TheRedPill23/11/14 11:06 AM
3

In the case of getting an escort, you relax at home/your hotel, they show up, you pay your money, no bullshit, you fuck them and they leave and you go back to doing whatever it is you want to do. ^ that. Women are only "free" if your time is worth nothing.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 08:27 AM
1

Not to mention hunting. Surely hunting is older than hooking.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 08:27 AM
38

fat girl butthurt... bad text game my first thought was depression quest
/r/TheRedPill08/11/14 06:55 PM
2

IMBRA disproves this hypothesis
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 02:36 PM
13

Doubt it - the Victorian police are Australia's biggest softcocks.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 02:32 PM
6

I've always wondered why women are so obsessed with kitchens, appliances, granite countertops etc etc etc. How many women can cook?
/r/TheRedPill05/11/14 05:19 AM
2

An orbiter is still a potentially great guy, he just needs to take RP. A slut, however, is psychologically damaged and is extremely unlikely to make a good wife. So it's not a double standard. It's a case of treating different things differently.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 04:34 AM
4

Well, tell us, True Scotsman, what feminism is then.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 02:11 PM
4

RP normally views women as legally-empowered predators (eg. frivorce/alimony, affirmative consent laws, beneficiaries of social conventions) and men as the hapless victims of a brutal, ultra-deregulated sexual marketplace.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 01:49 PM
5

Here's what you missed: 1) As other people here point out, women only want real alphas, naturals, not betas/omegas faking alpha. To the extent that RP (or any other men's movement) allows non-alphas to simulate alphas, then that makes female sexual strategy (distinguishing between alphas and non-alphas) harder, and hence women will oppose it. 2) Feminism, as Heartiste puts it, is just a mechanism for increasing social controls/responsibilities/obligations on men while reducing the same on women.…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 01:47 PM
1

What's an "agenda question"?
/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 02:20 PM
2

The solution is less state / less regulation / less intervention / less power to femin-izm. How would that work? You'd just get women voting for more state, more regulation, more intervention etc. What you want is not less state, but less democracy.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 09:52 AM
1

Excellent list. I'd add "Changing lanes", ie. a woman switching from an AF strategy to a BB strategy (or vice-versa when she gets back on the carousel). Usually happens near the wall.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 09:06 AM
5

Yeah, I thought this was an odd post: who cares about a plate's n count? It's not like you're going to marry her.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/14 10:41 PM
1

That's a conspiracy theory? I thought it was obvious common sense!
/r/TheRedPill01/10/14 10:36 PM
-1

"Confidence" is just another powertalk weasel word.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 07:30 AM
23

"Sexist" is just a synonym for "asshole". And we all know what that means.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 07:19 PM
3

The people commenting are retarded. What, even by Huffpo standards?
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 03:48 AM
8

When someone says that all blacks are criminals, they're wrong. When someone says that all women are hypergamous, they're right. The two are therefore not comparable. Is this not obvious?
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 11:12 PM
3

Easy solution: don't tell anyone that you have sex with prostitutes
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 11:03 PM
8

Keep us posted on this one. The "no friends" angle is fascinating, because it's hard to believe that a hot chick could have no friends - like, not even one beta orbiter? You're not wrong when you call it strange - this could be a good RP case study in... something, just need to figure out what's going on.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 03:05 PM
10

It is true I find this issue a conundrum, one that tests my own moral boundaries and ethics. As a feminist, I agree I should be supporting young women to live their lives the way they wish; reinforcing the idea that it is their bodies and their choices. I wouldn't give her too much credit for that bit of self-awareness. Basically what she's saying is "gee, if women keep up this sluttery the BB won't be waiting around for them when they get off the carousel". She's just complaining that women mig…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 01:56 AM
2

Too bad there's no comments to the article, it'd be interesting seeing what the SMH's (last remaining) demographic of 40-60yo public servants thinks. We all know what that demographic thinks about guys like us (lmao).
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 01:44 AM
47

Probably the greatest public service redpillers can perform is hammering this explanation of what "marriage material" really means into the public consciousness (in particular, men under 40). (This would have the side benefit of getting the rest of society to hate us even more than they already do, lol)
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 10:22 PM
5

Try asking them what they think of guys who have sex with prostitutes.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 11:37 AM
20

The thought of prostitution being socially unacceptable is just so fucking weird to me. You aren't being cynical enough. Women bitterly despise the idea of men cutting the pussy Gordian knot, for what should be obvious self-interest reasons (women don't want competition in the pussy market).
/r/TheRedPill24/06/14 11:22 PM
0

"Career" (etc, etc) is just hamsterese for "I wanna get on the cock carousel".
/r/TheRedPill24/06/14 05:15 PM
1

There's also the possibility of social proofing - women think Meeks is hot because lots of other women think Meeks is hot.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/14 09:07 PM
1

I don't know if it's against the rules to post links to Facebook, so I won't. The linking guidelines here are unspeakably tedious.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 10:37 AM
23

Women can't possibly be that stupid (and aren't women supposed to be the more socially-attuned sex?). I think what's actually happening is that women are reluctant to admit that low-value men are flirting with them, because it would imply that she's in their league, or at least within reach.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 03:58 PM
8

1) As Rollo has pointed out before, RP returns a measure of control of a woman's hypergamy to the man, and women have a primal need to maintain control of their hypergamy (hey, it's their genetic legacy, after all). 2) As I've pointed out here before, AFBB is nothing more than a scam, and scammers don't want their marks finding out about the scam. RP threatens to cut off the BB, supplication, free shit, orbiters, female privilege, etc. (You said "aside from women and feminists", and the above po…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 11:15 PM
1

If you have Adblock installed, try using that to block the background image.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 10:06 AM
1

That's what I'm trying to say. If a man rejected a high-value wife, then that signals even higher value on his part. A divorced man should want to show that his wife was high-value, but lower-value than he is.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 03:49 PM
1

I never thought of this, but now I think about it, this makes sense (here, have an upvote). I guess the status dynamic will hinge on the woman's assessment of who rejected who: did the woman reject the man (low status, beta, avoid) or did the man reject the woman (high status, has options, alpha)? Female questioning, if any, about the divorce and its circumstances are probably thus an attempt to assess the status dynamic, who rejected who, etc. The impression a man would logically want to give i…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 02:45 PM
19

Kwon is a parody account: 1) "She" (probably a guy, lol) can't spell: she's from "San Fransico" 2) Here's her pic (thanks Google Images reverse search): http://www.123rf.com/photo_3942407_korean-woman-portrait.html While I'm at it, this tweet is hilarious: https://twitter.com/marisJ_s/status/477536727134117888
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 09:02 PM
-3

Manginas are negative externalities.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/14 05:31 PM
13

By "we", I suppose you mean "women". Men didn't choose this in any great numbers.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/14 05:23 PM
4

Should the wifey material girls be jealous of all the action the sluts are getting Of course not - getting laid is like falling off a log for women. Why would something so facile be a source of jealousy?
/r/TheRedPill10/06/14 01:41 PM
79

One of the most infuriating myths that people (parents, society at large, etc) peddle is that being the BB is "winning in the end". What utter horseshit. Being the BB is being a sucker. Being the BB is failure.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 09:19 PM
1

What do you think's going on at the lake? Maybe she's just really into boating or feeding the ducks?
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 01:47 PM
10

1) Surely this has already been posted 2) Why is she obsessed with the lake? (hint: she's cheating on him) 3) The guy's constant nattering is inane 4) She either has very low IQ, or a very short attention span, or a personality disorder (tantrums are common to all). Her weird stretching and contortions are consistent behaviour 5) She has no tattoos (far as I can tell from the video), which is unusual for someone who's probably very trashy
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 11:42 AM
3

Not to mention the mani/pedi and jewellery and hairdo. The amount of fat chicks with nice hair I see is bizarre.
/r/TheRedPill08/06/14 09:24 PM
5

Feminism is really nothing more than women’s way of waging war on this construct for their own benefit. Absolutely. But they never actually "win". All women can do is move around the time structure of the benefits. So what you get now is women burning up all their SMV on the carousel, and then being alone and miserable (or married to a beta and miserable) for years, as opposed to what we used to have, which was women having their carouselling restricted by early marriage, which must have felt to…
/r/TheRedPill08/06/14 08:04 PM
18

No amount of daycare facilities, no amount of maternity leave, no amount of encouraging people to have babies will make your country have a higher than 2.1 birthrate if women have to make the choice between having a career versus starting a family. I'd actually go further - I don't see any particularly compelling evidence that women even want kids in the first place, "career" or no. What's more fun, 2am feedings or 2am alpha cock? I suspect that's the real reason why women don't have kids: raisi…
/r/TheRedPill08/06/14 07:31 PM
46

Why are all these women even his own sister trying to bring him down? I could figure other women trying to de-RP the guy, to make sure there's an adequate supply of BP betas to provide a soft landing when they get off the carousel. But this is the guy's own fucking sister for shit's sake, and she's trying to turn him into a miserable beta. In other words, the sister wants to sacrifice the happiness of her own frigging brother in favour of the happiness of women she isn't related to and doesn't e…
/r/TheRedPill07/06/14 09:48 PM
2

CreepAcceptance is right - you totally boned that (the rest of the post is great). A woman's association with high-SMV men isn't intended to boost her own SMV (although many women might very well erroneously think that it does), it's to boost her own status among women.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/14 05:20 PM
47

LOL, there's some dickhead in the comments bragging that he married a 39yo. Enjoy paying for your sloppy fiftieths.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/14 03:51 PM
4

You see something similar in the churches, who are trying to muddy the RP waters with their "a REAL alpha male is something who [insert long list of attraction-killing beta-bucks crap here]!" schtick.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/14 12:19 PM
14

In other words, if consent is uncertain, they'll assume it was given. but suddenly "changed" when the act had been going on for five or six minutes I thought consent could be withdrawn at any time?
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 04:36 PM
40

Outstanding summary. The one thing I'd add would be ever-increasing government coercion of income producers, to support the women and their bastards, pay for their welfare, etc. Bachelor taxes are one example.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 02:47 PM
1

I actually did originally write "mutually exclusive", now that you mention it.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 08:55 AM
26

Imagine, a guide that was feminist approved, anti-patriarchy, and helped guys. How do I put this diplomatically... the set of things that turn women on and the set of things that feminists approve of are disjoint sets.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 07:27 PM
28

What makes you think they're not being rational? The rational female response to RP knowledge is to scream and bitch and call in the manginas and white knights to stop it. Why? Because women don't want RP knowledge being mainstream. Women don't want their sexual strategy being made public, and for obvious reasons: the scammer does not want their potential victims finding out about the scam. If RP (or PUA, or MRA, or MGTOW, or any of these other loosely-connected manosphere things) goes mainstrea…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 07:23 PM
5

You're such a nice guy. I wish all guys were like you.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 05:16 PM
2

Pretentious, try-hard atheism. Apparently (I just googled) the term isn't as widespread as I thought.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 11:36 AM
2

Clearly, religion serves some other purpose in their lives. I imagine what they're doing is using their religion as a mimic or false branding in order to deceive other people. Modern religions don't restrain hypergamy much. This is because it requires society to restrain hypergamy, and society usually has to rely on some external source of authority, eg. religions, to justify it. And this will always be the case, because women won't accept any restrictions on hypergamy, period. Restrictions on h…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 11:35 AM
4

If you don't want to believe something, then don't. If you want to do fedoratheism, then you might want to go to r/atheism or something.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 11:30 AM
6

Religions just adapt themselves to the times. Christianity preaches restrictions on female hypergamy, women don't like restrictions on hypergamy, ergo women are always looking for a variety of Christianity (or whatever your local creed is) that doesn't restrict her hypergamy. The difference between the average hypergamy-optimised western matriarchy and the average non-matriarchal country is that the latter don't have manginas, feminism, white-knightism, democracy, welfare states, or any of the o…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 11:25 AM
5

God is not your girlfriend. Patterns of behaviour that are bad for one relationship might be good for another relationship.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 11:20 AM
21

It was painful to read. Anyone who doubts that men have hamsters should read that post.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 05:51 PM
67

Christ. BP "men" (sic) of the world, get this through your thick fucking skulls: none of this threesome, swinger, polyamory, "open relationship" shit will benefit you the slightest. fucking. bit. Geddit? All this alternative (read: bizarre) relationship shit does is create opportunities for the woman while fucking you (in the bad sense).
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 03:57 PM
16

Any of this sound familiar? Women are perfect examples of the prisoner's dilemma. Remember, in the prisoner's dilemma, the optimal outcome is for everyone else to cooperate on doing the right thing, while you defect by doing what benefits you at their expense. Your observation about how women compete is a perfect example of it - exploiting and bending the rules for themselves is defecting, calling out anyone doing the same thing is an attempt to shame everyone else into cooperating.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 07:42 PM
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