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Rapists technically get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 05:08 AM
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It just reinforces my belief that "there is no point in bothering with this." Red or Blue, most women are dull, entitled cunts when you boil it down (they're the gatekeepers and they're used to men pretending that they're interesting people with legitimate thoughts just to get in their pants but without questioning), and pussy is the only thing you can get from women that you can't get anywhere else if you're a man. Oh well. Being a loser is better than being a beta bucks loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 03:04 PM
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They dont want to elevate anyone up. Why support a system if it doesn't benefit you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 11:42 AM
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Y'all's who demonized incels to the point where the white knights who run reddit galloped to m'lady's rescue. Mean boys are scary, can't let them talk to each other
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 10:59 PM
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Y'all's banned r/incels and pretended like it was a nuke and just all exploded with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 10:48 PM
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Stacey out here talking about nuance as if she actually knows what that word means. Go back to dickriding Chad, THOT thoughts are just whining about nothing until she gets what she wants, there's no real point to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 10:46 PM
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Pumping and dumping isn't "HA, I made you feel bad" revenge (that would require women having feelings in the first place, instead of being opportunistic predators). It's "HA, I'm not going to be the beta bucks loser who props your life up in exchange for getting the worst part of you, I'm going to win by getting the best part of you for free and then leaving afterwards." It's revenge on the system that treats men as disposable wallets by not being one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 04:35 AM
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They benefit from it. People hate giving up their benefits for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 04:32 AM
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The stereotype goes that sex is better with them because they try harder.
/r/MGTOW31/03/19 02:35 AM
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Hopefully drop dead in public, because no one's finding me for awhile otherwise
/r/MGTOW31/03/19 02:34 AM
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This is the first time I've seen it mentioned since probably around when it was announced to be launching
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:14 AM
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I don't use Tinder either, but I know it's still going strong. I didn't know if Bumble even existed anymore because I never see anyone mention it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:10 AM
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Honey, it would serve you well to be a little more positive. Actually it didn't. You sound so paranoid. I feel sorry for you. It's not paranoia if you're not an attractive guy. If I tried reallllll hard I'd max out at beta bucks, and that's a sad situation to be in to only be wanted for stability and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:50 PM
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Thank goodness a real answer. Do you think we should rephrase it? Or that men should claim the word so it doesn’t get taken out of context? Too many people benefit from it and women are attracted to toxically masculine men. Stop rewarding it and it goes away.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:45 PM
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And yet....men still marry and have kids. Or raise someone else's without knowing it. It’s almost like there is more than one way to live! Wow. Yeah, and the betas generally lose out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:35 PM
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Is it a success if I have to google to see if it still exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:35 PM
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No, incels and neckbeards are the least intimidating Up until they go lone wolf and take 40 people with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:33 PM
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Beta bucks. The toughest/manliest/masculine men don't stick around. Testosterone drops in men after they have children for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:32 PM
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Least intimidating people out there is what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:13 PM
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"College" counts college kids
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:08 PM
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It happened a decent amount in college. college The true face of courage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:02 PM
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Without male backup guaranteeing their safety, they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:57 PM
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A quiet room full of people awkwardly looking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:54 PM
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You can always fight a dude or tell him to fuck off if he tries to call you a pussy. The real problem with it is that women prefer those toughest/manliest/masculine men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:52 PM
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I thought I said, doesn't bumble help you weed out men more? Like you have to list your earnings and etc? If you have more information and more options, you'll hold out for more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:45 PM
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It might also be that women with more options to weed men out only settle for 9s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:35 PM
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Getting matches, starting conversations, and getting in-person dates is not really a difficult thing for me. How does this go against what I said? If you were a 5 or a 6, you would barely be getting any of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:26 PM
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I'm a fairly attractive guy What's "fairly attractive" mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:00 PM
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They throw themselves at truly attractive men, so I'm not so sure about that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:55 PM
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Never forget Women don't like video games, they only tolerate video games because they know that if given the choice, men will choose them over women every time.
/r/MGTOW30/03/19 09:42 PM
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If this was a crime, they'd lock me in the deepest, dankest level of supermax and throw away the key.
/r/MGTOW30/03/19 09:36 PM
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But if more men are virgins, that means men can claim neglect-rape
/r/MGTOW30/03/19 09:33 PM
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It destroys credibility to be celebrating something you claim to be against. Otherwise, go for it, THOT
/r/MGTOW30/03/19 09:30 PM
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That probably sounded better in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:01 PM
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It's whatever system that forces men to push down their emotions and just take something that wouldn't be considered okay in any other situation. Men do it to men in order to compete and show themselves as tougher than the others. Women do it to men because they want men to keep them safe and emotional men won't kill another man to protect you. Society sees men as disposable and it's a way to instill useful disposability into them, just shut the fuck up and keep doing things that benefit everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:51 PM
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Feminism is crybabying, but men want the pussy so they listen
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:33 PM
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Didn't bumble fail because men didn't care about signing up to something that made it easy to weed them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:31 PM
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You're still obsessed and owned by women. You don't change anything by staying quiet. Feminism taught us that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:15 PM
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Edited it in
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:12 PM
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I'm not the person who posted this thread, and this is a thing where women absolutely lie to say the "right thing" "lol fuck women's perspectives" I mean, women lying about their perspective is why TRP exists in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:10 PM
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I posted under the automoderator ;) Also, I mean in purple pill debate. Women win whether a man is blue or red either way. Any woman debating this shit is just doing it for attention
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:05 PM
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Why are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:02 PM
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Feminists somehow have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:25 PM
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Imagine this thread being hooked up to a lie detector test and just hearing one loud, unending beep.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:09 PM
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Funny enough, the above video above indicator that women do not like virgin men. Just lie. They don't deserve the truth either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:07 PM
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Men only go to red pill once they find out that women are lying, opportunistic branch-swingers. So what's good for the goose, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:03 PM
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Must mean that women are the emotionless, careless predators. That's some kind of projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:01 PM
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How do you not understand the difference between "wanting to fuck a person" and "wanting to marry a person" and that different factors are taken into account for those two things? How are you not understanding that the foundation of your attraction is entirely based on what you can get from him? If he doesn't have those things, you don't want him anymore. You don't have to go after rich guys to be considered a gold digger. He didn't even know those things about me when we first started sleeping …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 06:58 PM
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Being capable of getting laid doesn't make you an attractive man. One or two women finding you attractive, it could easily make you beta bucks. I mean literally, an attractive man who is choosing porn over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 06:56 PM
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I've been attracted to drug addicts and scumbags. I didn't date them because it wouldn't be wise to do so They can give you excitement, drugs (if you're into that thing), money (in some ways). It's still based on what you can get from them. I do deny that it's the "foundation of my attraction" but I can tell there's no point in arguing about it further. Exactly why I kept bringing it up. You deny it's the foundation when you wouldn't marry him if he didn't have things you could get from him. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:43 PM
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Those aren't actual examples, just theoretical or hypothetical ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:41 PM
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You don't even have one example of an attractive man choosing porn over women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:33 PM
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No it's not, because if he didn't have money, you wouldn't consider him at all. The foundation of your attraction is based on what you can get from him. Also because I didn't see your edit When I met my husband he was stocking shelves at Best Buy. I'm not a golddigger, but I'm not going to date someone who's destitute. This is meaningless. Women do treat men like investors treat stocks, if he's in college or she sees money in his future, she'll bet on him too. I won't apologize for taking pragma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:31 PM
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No, because "attractive" to me actually means "attractive." Women want attractive men and treat them differently than they do normal men. Your definition of "attractive", whatever it is, doesn't align with that at all. Women make themselves easy and available for attractive men, and if they don't, that means you're not "attractive."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:25 PM
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I may be classifying "attractive" as more than just "above average."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:22 PM
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My point was that you don't have any track record of success with women, and you don't know what it's like to be an attractive man. Your opinion is missing some critical data points. I also have eyes. Women push attractive men in multiple ways, up to and including being straight-up obvious about it. An attractive man gets that convenience and freedom that porn offers from women themselves. Even awkward attractive guys are just considered "cute" because they're "shy." They get every excuse pre-ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:07 PM
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That's ad-hominem and not really addressing the point here. "Millions" of attractive guys are not choosing porn over women, because attractive guys get interest from women all the time. That's what makes them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:54 PM
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Women throw themselves at attractive men, so no, that's not a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:50 PM
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Right. Because women are too much work and porn isn't. If women stop being too much work, then men won't use the porn instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:49 PM
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and plenty of attractive men settling for internet porn instead of real women. Literally find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:47 PM
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Your looksmatch will cheat on you and fuck the men above you on the pecking order. No one wants to be a loser and being beta bucks makes you a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:47 PM
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I really don't get women complaining about players. You can smell players from miles away... Women are legitimately dumb when it comes to men they find attractive. They'll make every excuse for them and automatically assume good things about them because they're attractive. Most men recognize a player a mile away, but women assume the man is just jealous and she sees the real him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:44 PM
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Then your attraction is based on what you can get from him, not who he is as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:28 PM
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Weight verification feature?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:41 AM
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cultivated That would be in line with the "time and money" thing I mentioned in my original post. In this case, "time" (and work)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:40 AM
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Which makes you a Chad and arguing against the exact thing you were arguing for before. A smiley face at the end doesn't mean you actually have a point ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:35 AM
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Chad fucks women for free. The party douchebro is the easiest stereotype but not the only one. Having multiple girlfriends at once is not normal, and usually reserved only for Chad-types. Women don't want share or fight over an average or below average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:26 AM
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With your multiple-girlfriends-at-once like every normal average guy has? :p
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:18 AM
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Or just stop pretending to be humble, Chad :p
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:10 AM
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moving in less materialistic and status-obsessed circles. Those circles don't exist when it comes to LTRs. Women are repulsed by men who don't have career aspirations/money etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:03 AM
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Ok, a few cups of coffee then. Most girls are not going to LTR you off of a few cups of coffee, and anyone who's fucking you is definitely not doing it because you took them out on a few coffee dates. That's Chad shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:59 AM
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That's one date, not all of them, and not how much you need for her to actually take you seriously. Only Chad-types get it for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:54 AM
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You do if you're serious about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:51 AM
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Why wouldn't you complain if prices are artificially high? What you've got isn't worth the time and money you think it takes to get it, and Chad gets to ride for free anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 05:15 AM
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I don't understand the difference between these two things. If a dude was poor but otherwise the same, that's who he is. All the other things are what you can get from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:54 AM
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over half of jobless guys aren't in a relationship; Yeah, because women expect to cash in on men, they don't want who's lesser than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:51 AM
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Women aren't competing. They're still expecting men to compete for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:50 AM
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for these guys who sit in front of a screen all day and can’t hold an actual conversation or be fun to save their lives. Part if it was what you find fun too. Most of y'all's a boring people (especially women), and I have more fun with the screen than I do trying to pretend like I'm not wasting my time with a real person. Women in particular expect men to provide them with fun, because they themselves are so boring that they don't know how to do it for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:49 AM
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I mean, the value of what women are offering has dropped because there's cheaper alternatives. You're not gonna pay exorbitant prices in time and money to get something that Chad gets for free when you could just smack it to porn and then do something else with your money instead
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:46 AM
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I think teens and young adults pay attention to that stuff and react to it with hating on them whereas when you get older, you don't follow thing as much anymore and you're not around people who follow it as deep either. I knew who the Backstreet Boys were and what their songs sounded like because every girl my age is listening to them. Outside of school, you're rarely around people your own age all the time. I didn't know who Bieber was until a few years into him being mega-famous, and then whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:51 AM
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Was working the garden in the front yard, girl with a thicccc ass in leggings walked on by. Once she passed, never took my eyes off her until she was out of sight. I was never going to do anything, so it really doesn't matter to me either way if she's uncomfortable or not (she dressed herself after all) or of it's okay or not. Not a crime to look.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:42 AM
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Adults complain about things young people do and like because they're old and out of touch and hate being reminded of it. There's a point when adults stop paying attention to new things and just try to keep things recognizable. Seeing boys getting fawned over by girls for things that in their day would've gotten them hated on, beat up or considered unattractive is one aspect of that. how men stay attracted to teenagers for their whole lives while women's preferences keep evolving as they age It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:31 AM
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Not enough beta bux to go around. Hard to earn money when those same women are taking all the jobs from men in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 01:43 AM
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They totally do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:23 AM
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Not physically, but women care about money than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 12:17 PM
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It's not a myth. Men have more money when they're older and women collectively care more about men's money than anything else by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 11:51 PM
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In a way, that arguably means taht women don't care about how good of a person you are, just how you look, which is generally the second biggest criticism women have about men (the first being the whole "sexual misconduct" thing but that's a minority of men)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 11:49 PM
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Fair enough, but UMC still has a lot of advantages of parents opening doors for them instead of them having to actually do it on merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 11:03 PM
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but having grown up around UMC and UC people, ambition and success are expected of them. Their families put enormous pressure on them. Their parents are just going to pay for their success anyways even if they're stunningly mediocre human beings, so I'm not sure what they're worried about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 10:50 PM
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how a place looks, For me, it's "who are you trying to impress?" Like most human beings are absolute 100% nobodies. You actually have to be impressive to be worth impressing in the first place. I don't really care how my place looks because I'm not worried about what you think because I don't think you think at all in the first place, and even if you happen to rub two brain cells together and get a spark of a thought, this is my sanctuary away from the outside world that I live in while you're n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 10:47 PM
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Natural loner in unfamiliar surrounding, I prefer women. Easier to look at, and less threat from not wanting to be part of the larger group.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 06:40 AM
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"M'lady" behaviour. You might find it romantic and chivalrous, but that shit's just nice-guy stuff now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 06:36 AM
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I always find education interesting because there seems to be two flows: educated people who recognize their education as a detailed skillset but also recognize they don't know what they don't know (I summed up one friend's entire thesis in a sentence, it gave them a lol and they lamented on how much bullshit they had to write to pad it out and prove it, I can hang a bit). And there's the type who seems to buy into the flowery, excessive smarter-than-thou language of higher learning and that rub…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 11:33 PM
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I have found in my experience that being a highly educated woman is actually a handicap in the dating scene. In what ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 11:18 PM
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Um lol yes they do. They very much care that a woman has a pussy (preferably attached to a young and hot body), so that they can utilize it for sex. Yeah, I meant that more in the material sense, bad wording in my case. Neither does your body. It’s buried in the ground and decays and rots until it’s absorbed into the soil. If people’s bodies went with them when they died, people would just “poof” disappear once their hearts stop beating. Your looks don't recycled or moved to someone else after y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:37 PM
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Her physical self is a material good as his financial status is his. No it's not, because it can't be removed from her and given to someone else. My argument is that even if finances are the main factor to women like looks are to men, you still need a personality that vibes with her for her to actually commit. And that personality is completely secondary to how much money he makes, because unless he's a rare case, his personality is not going to overcome that. (Unless you're super attractive as …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:36 PM
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Cultural differences could play into it, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:28 PM
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Um, yes you can. You can throw acid on her face or disfigure her in some way and she becomes ugly again. And then do the makeover for another one. And the man’s interest will follow the attractiveness. "Generally" means "not involving a crime." Plus a significant number of women lose interest in sex after a while, and a lot of guys start looking outside for sex. Another example of the guys interest following where sex is provided. Some even leave their wives for it, because just as women are mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:27 PM
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Of the (male) doctors and such I work with, they are almost al married to similarly high/earning women, usually other doctors. How much of that is because divorce court incentivizes well-earning men to not marry down, and also with how the lifestyle puts them on-call 24/7 and the only people who really understand that are people in other 24/7 style jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:15 PM
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Which means she has $200k per year. $50k is not chump change, families can live off of that being a primary breadwinner with some extra attached to it. If you're referring to someone working a cashiers line or flipping burgers, yea, I don't see that. I don't see high-earning men marrying women who work shit jobs either. Right, even though it was absolutely fine for men to do the same for women for decades. Hence the hypocrisy of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:04 PM
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I have a pharmacist co-worker who makes north of $150k. Her husband is a coal-miner. They have a couple kids and have been married for 10 years or so. Coal Miners don't make chump change either, though. A lot of coal miners can be the primary breadwinner of their families, that doesn't make him a "low earning man", that just makes him "lower earning than her." There is a huge difference between the two. Also his money is still getting added to hers and if he was making significantly less or not …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:02 PM
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My point was that money can be a contributing factor to attraction, but it is not the only factor. And mine is that it's mostly the major one, because it's so rare for a man to be so attractive that she doesn't think about money first. Also, way back up to your comparison of money to a chick’s hotness is “you are only worth your looks” not just as dehumanizing as “you are only worth your financial contribution,” because I feel that even if money is the main factor in a woman’s attraction (I don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:00 PM
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Define "many", or what low-earning compared to their earnings are? Also either way, those situations are in the minority or otherwise rare compared to how things generally work. Exceptions don't disprove rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 05:52 PM
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I find the whole double-standard a little hypocritical. For decades, men support women as the primary and/or sole breadwinners and everything's fine. And now suddenly women earn money and especially have options to earn significant money and yet how much the man makes still matters to her because "what happens if I have to support him? No way, that's a bad deal!" A rose by any other name is still a rose, except at this point it's just personal greed. Women are resource whirlpools, they're most c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 05:34 PM
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I think that process of dehumanization starts when they're judging someone by their wallet instead of them as a person, and when their desire to be interested in that person changes completely based on the size or the perceived future size of that wallet. And you're sort of agreeing with me in saying that women can learn to feel emotions for someone after she's already decided she likes what she can get from him. That's the root of it. You can try to put pretty thoughts and feelings behind it, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 05:24 PM
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When I say household management, I don’t mean just cleanliness, yes women tend to have a higher standard, but that’s also a societal dictation. I’m talking about things like remembering to buy food, toilet paper, and taking care of any children the couple has mostly on her own. Men without women do that stuff just fine too. In fact, I don’t even know if it’s “this dude is waaay too emotional” that is unattractive (to an extent, yes, and women get a larger pass) but there is also the effect of be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 05:07 PM
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*and, generally, her household management (especially if she doesn’t work.) There 100% is a double standard to financial contribution in a household, however there also exists a double standard in household management. If she all of the suddenly stops doing all the chores while the man is still working all day, you bet he’ll have a problem with it. It’d still be “her” she’d just no longer be contributing to their current lifestyle and routine. So yeah, sorta about the money, also about large cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 04:16 PM
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I don't think morals and values ignite attraction in women, no. TRP and Dark Triad traits kind of prove that women will fuck awful people because they're attracted to them regardless, and I'm of the opinion that it's the majority of women this applies to, not a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 03:55 PM
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that right there is a change in his personality and a change in lifestyle. My contention is that it's the latter that matters to the woman, not the former. "Her" lifestyle, what she gets provided or partly provided from him, which she's relying on him to provide for her. Things he has, not the person himself. Most people go into a relationship because they like the person as they currently are, and a change like that is a big deal even outside of money. It's entirely about money. People get tire…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 03:52 PM
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The thing I’ve neglected to talk about is that women also have standards for how a guy looks so if it were the same guy but hotter the same result could happen. Yeah, but women find less men attractive enough for that than the other way around, so it's a much rarer case where a woman lets other things fly because he's physically attractive enough. Somebody with no aspirations is damn boring in my opinion, so I might befriend them, but I’d never date them because that part of their personality do…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 03:24 PM
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but I just find your generalization unfair. I'm just boiling it down to the absolute basics. Like if you think I'm cool, like my schtick and otherwise think I'm worth "connecting to" but I have no career aspirations, you're not gonna do it and not gonna view me the same way as if I was the same guy but then suddenly won the lottery. Most women are not gonna give me the time of day, some of them might see me as an interesting friend but not someone to emotionally connect with. There may be rare i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 03:07 PM
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but actually building a relationship is normally based on an emotional connection. That gets created after the fact. It's again the difference between a guy having $10 and $1mil. She's not gonna bother thinking about the guy with $10 for an "emotional connection" as much, but if the same guy has $1 mil, she's much more likely to consider him. The difference here is that you can't remove the hot chick's hot chickness and give it to someone else, it's hers either way. If she dies tomorrow, the hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:57 PM
1

I'll grant you historic cultural differences then. It's more of a historical double-standard in western-capitalist countries (all I really know about Russia is that apparently women have a hard time even finding husband material because they're in gangs or drunk or drugs or some shit)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:48 PM
1

Suddenly? Both sexes can suddenly lose their job. You ignored the other part of that, where men have lived with that while supporting women for decades and it was fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:42 PM
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Despite the rhetoric, most men aren't harassers. The ones at the top, the ones who can get away with and the ones who are criminals anyways tend to be. Mainstream feminist movements only concern themselves with these people while most of the other men are invisible. The world's a horrifying place if you only pay attention to the horrifying things. (Controlling for culture too, one culture's idea of a man approaching a woman might be harassment for a woman in a meeker culture, but a woman in that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:41 PM
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Not just that. There's an interesting double-standard where women are worried about "what would happen to them if they suddenly lost their job" or if they decide that it's time to get pregnant and be mom for awhile, however those worries never existed a few decades ago when men were the primary breadwinners earning money for the both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:33 PM
1

That must mean I'm right, because autistic people don't judge by the bullshit that people spin emotionally, just judge based on actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:32 PM
1

Which means that men only love women for the sex that they can provide for him. And all that has to do with her physical self. If she's a hot, sex hungry vixen, you can't remove that from her and give to someone else. If a guy has $1 mil and you remove it from him and give it to another guy, the women's interest follows the money, not the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:31 PM
0

Ambition and drive is part of a man. The fruits of your labor are a part of you, because you were the one that got them. No they're not. Men don't care about what women have, just them as a whole as an example. A human being isn’t just a constellation of physical parts. Your personality is just as much a part of you as your leg is. But your material goods aren't. If you die tomorrow, those things don't go with you. And men want her pussy to be given to him for his utilization. Just like the woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:30 PM
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No, entertainment/excitement is BB not AF. That's the beta court jester role. No, it's like creepiness. If she's not attracted to you, it's court jester, if she is, it's alpha. After sex we like to talk music and filns, make meals etc Uh, that's still providing entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:29 AM
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Some women like to talk with men. It's not a thing men have. It's a part of their personalities. Providing entertainment. A large amount of women have boring personalities, because they've never had any reason to develop personalities (people in fucked up situations, with mental illness or who have nothing tend to develop personalities more than people who don't want for much), so they need someone else to provide it for them. And solely bucks often are not enough. For young women, yeah, but as …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:27 AM
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Nope. Wrong. Women see beta men as a means to an end. Again, the Pareto/power law is being blurred. I did list "entertainment/excitement" as part of what they can get from you. You're still being used as means to an end, but your entry fee costs a lot less.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:22 AM
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And men do that either. They want women to provide them with pussies. The difference being, that's still part of themselves. Like that's a physical part of a woman, attached to her body, part of herself as a human being. What they generally want from men is something that isn't actually part of the man at all, but something he can transfer from himself to her. The man doesn't matter, the thing he has does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:21 AM
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but only if she is seen as a woman, not a mannequin with pussy. I'm not so sure about that. Men who get a lot have a better state of men than men who don't Desire for validation is such a silly desire. If I saved the world and was called Satan later, I'd not give a fuck. So's judging someone else solely by what they can provide you, but that's how women operate all the time Asexual men? A good catch. Rarer than asexual women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:08 AM
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They are interested in pussies, not in women. One is attached to the other. I mean, what's the point of dating merely for sex? I've been told that nothing compares. Also it is extremely difficult to get a woman to give it up, to have enough traits or money or whatever else prebuilt into you to make her actually feel like it's a good idea. It's one of the strongest forms of validation a man can get. Asexual women simply do not want sex, they still might be interested in other things. Asexual men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:01 AM
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How many men see women just as means to stick their dick somewhere. Which doesn't invalidate that they are more interested in women than women are in men. Most men are not interested in asexual women. True, but asexual women are equally not as interested in men in that situation, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 09:55 AM
2

The privileged rarely do appreciate their privileges
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 09:34 AM
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No. I think women see men as a means to an end (children, comfortable life, luxury, excitement and entertainment, or any other end you can think of that a woman wants to see) and if you can't provide that end, they're not really interested in you at all. If you took a man with $10 in his bank account and added a million dollars to it right now, the amount of women suddenly interested in him would shoot up exponentially. There's nothing different about him, just what they can get from him, that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 09:34 AM
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they can respect individuals or have morals and still get women But women don't need the respect or the morality to want to fuck someone, so they're really the problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 09:29 AM
3

I don't hate it, I just wish it wasn't true because I do find it pretty disgusting. TBP rewards good people for being good people, TRP doesn't exclude bad people from the reward cycle and actually are more likely to reward them than not, and leaves the good people to clean up the disgusting mess left behind at their own cost like cucks. I have no interest in helping women succeed and propping up a system that helps them in life just to be a cuck just so they can be as sloppy and disgusting as th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 10:54 PM
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or silent sam but yah being friendly and pleasant is actually going to get a second look. A second look for the friend zone :p
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 07:16 PM
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EXACTLY. This is what I am saying. No, you're saying that it's a primary factor. It's not. Women's entitled demands has not adjusted to this new world (or really, an actual world where "equality" also means that female privileges have to go too), and complaining about high prices for low quality is completely within reason. And not one person would care except for the fact that all of the incels spend time whining on the internet that it’s unfair and totally not our fault and it’s to do with all…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 05:19 PM
2

It makes it easier, but it wasn't exactly hard (pun intended) to find magazines and things of that like back in the day, just less socially acceptable. If anything, it's also liberated us from having to deal with such excessive bullshit for such little reward. Just like oil, the value and prices have dropped but the seller wants them back up. I quite seriously have better things to do with my time than waste it just to get a below-average response.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 04:46 PM
1

Nah, I think they're just looking for equality of treatment. If a woman complains about societal problems or people owe them something, everyone gallops out of the woodwork to reassure them ("NO WE DON'T, WE TREAT WOMEN THE SAME" everyone PPD will suddenly reply with, but it's straight not true), you-go-girl them and point out all the societial issues that men have caused women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 04:40 PM
3

If I told you there was a diamond in an ocean of shit and just keep trying and maybe you'll eventually find the diamond if you're lucky, you're more likely to not bother because that's a lot of shit to sift through. In my case, it's not an enjoyable process in the least, I don't value the things that women find attractive in men and the majority or the rewards that I can realistically gain aren't the rewards I actually want, especially for such a large waste of time and money that I wouldn't oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 04:29 PM
1

Two things to say that: 1) Rejection comes in more forms that just outright asking someone if they're interested in you or not. Social rejection can start very early and women are nothing if not tuned to care more about social status than anything. 2) "I’m not the Chad they want, so why bother?” doesn't actually invalidate that it's more worthwhile to just play video games instead. There is a point where the work you put into it isn't worth what you're getting out of it, and especially if women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 03:39 PM
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To view these girls as so worth it they put the controller down and go outside and approach these girls. Actually, I'd say it's this. When you strike out enough with girls, eventually the controller is actually more worth the time and money spent on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 03:24 PM
3

More rich men migrate to big cities and more attractive women looking to score a rich man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 03:22 PM
1

More a dislike and distrust of other human beings. Leaving the home is easy and I do it all the time, I just don't want to if I can help it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 01:13 PM
1

That still doesn't make it any less of a sanctuary away from the outside world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 08:59 AM
2

It's really not healthy, tbh. It's not healthy for extroverts, but it's just fine for introverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 06:30 AM
1

It's all about energy. Extroverts create energy being around other people and lose energy when they're by themselves, introverts are the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 06:29 AM
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It's a sanctuary away from the outside world that no one else is allowed into unless you say so. You don't get that at a concert or out in public, only entirely in private.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 06:28 AM
1

It was said facetiously because height on women not a problem I really experience (it's hard to have problems with people you don't interact with at all), but I have actually met two girls in my lifetime who have been taller than me or just as tall and it didn't detract in any way from attractiveness, mostly because anyone who would think of me as emasculated for being with a woman taller than me is most likely shorter than both of us anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 09:15 PM
1

Hope she likes it short and sweet, because that's all I'm packing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 07:34 PM
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He's an introvert. A man that rarely goes out to bars/restaurants (doesn't drink/eats homecooked food), doesn't go to movies/concerts/sporting events, and doesn't travel. As a fellow introvert, none of this sounds fun at all, just loud and stressful and filled with people I don't care about and away from the place I actually want to be, my home.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 07:33 PM
2

6'4" man here. 6'7" ladies, where are ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 07:31 PM
3

Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 04:08 PM
2

Like height surgeries and penis enlargement are aimed at men. Isn't that just a stripper or porn-star thing? Didn't that millionaire just die during his penis enlargement surgery? I didn't hear about this, need a source
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 04:03 PM
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Same goes for beautiful women. We percieve them as genetically superior although they necessarily aren't. There's billion dollar industries built around making women more beautiful than they actually are. Can't really fake height (unless there's some horrifying surgeries I don't know about).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 03:52 PM
2

I've seen it, yes it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 08:45 AM
2

If you look at the math of it, women find a much smaller percentage of men actually attractive. So while they may make themselves more attractive than average, they may not be attractive enough to pull in and keep the small percentage of men they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 04:42 AM
1

Just let it be no holds barred. This isn't some high-society hold-your-pinkies-up university debate among intellectuals, it's the internet. You should be able to tell someone they're wrong and call them gutter-scum at the same time, especially because people pill-debates means people stand for things that actually set you back in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 04:39 AM
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It's easy to find friends, it's much harder to find a woman who will fuck you for free
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 04:30 AM
1

The point I was making is that I'm not a cuckold
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 04:17 AM
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Ain't nothing wrong with pettiness ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 04:16 AM
1

If you keep thinking like that you sure as shit will never know. Yep. You’re like a woman that spends all of her time worrying about if she can ever orgasm and then is puzzled that she can’t. Thank goodness for Japanese waifus I feel for you. I bet it frustrates the hell out of you. Nope, I'm in the revenge phase now. Making the world a little more negative for the rest of y'all because it makes no difference to me. But, when you approach something such as a relationship, romantic or otherwise f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 06:23 PM
1

The hypothetical Chad isn't just looks, but looks do cause women to throw themselves at men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 03:12 PM
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Being in good shape Is also boring as absolute fuck. I've been in shape, it's a huge waste of time. and having some charm is quite easy Not if you don't care about social shit in the least. So you're a whining big bitch then White-knighting while RP, that's cute. At no point was I acting tough. Simply if you're entitled to think women are entitled cunts, I'm entitled to think you're a self defeating whiner That's fine, you're an anonymous internet nobody, your opinion doesn't matter in the least…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 02:47 PM
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That taking my ball and going home attitude. Attractive shit right there I'm not trying to be attractive, and I'm entitled to both have an opinion and share it with whoever I want. If I think you're an entitled cunt, you're an entitled cunt. Deal with it. It benefits you from having bitches on your dick and consequently having true confidence. No, it only benefits them. I don't get to do other things that I want to because I'm too busy doing other bullshit just to attract women. So by extension …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 02:27 PM
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Women are entitled to fuck who they want. That's nice, but I can also trash them for it if I want to. perhaps try to make yourself into a person women wanna fuck Except that just benefits them, not me. Fuck would I do that for?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 02:17 PM
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Nope, a "Chad" is attractive enough that women approach him. Slide into his DMs, gravitate towards him etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 02:15 PM
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Disagree. Women more or less throw themselves at that kind of guy regardless if he actually notices them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 12:27 PM
0

Don't know, haven't ever felt it. I found with crushes that was mostly just idealizing someone without information to back it up. I haven't had a crush on anyone in probably 10+ years now. And TBH, I don't think most women actually love men, just the things they can get from them, so I doubt I'll ever actually know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 12:22 PM
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Right, but he doesn't have to approach, because they're already approaching him
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 10:13 AM
2

You think the hypothetical Chad isn't getting women throwing themselves at him all the time? Remember what Chad means too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 09:10 AM
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I think most men don't cold-approach. They approach people in their own social circles or attached to their social-circles (friend of a friend etc). I'm not even sure the hypothetical Chad does much cold approaching, women go to him instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 09:03 AM
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When I did try, they didn't want it. So why am I going to try harder for people who act like rude and entitled cunts?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 08:55 AM
5

Stacy is not giving most men the time of day, nevermind doing anything with them when they're younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 07:24 AM
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Because there is a shortage of good men. That’s why. If there was an abundance of misunderstood, lonely, good quality men out there, then they wouldn’t be able to be so picky. Risk-reward for marriage and child-bearing is almost entirely put on the man's shoulders and the internet's let us all in on women cheating with Chad and how divorce courts are tilted entirely in the women's favour. Who works hard to qualify to just be a loser? We'd either rather be the Chad who gets cheated with (he gets …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 07:21 AM
2

Would you buy a car, pay for it to be tuned up, pay for insurance, and then let random strangers drive it? Fuck no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 07:14 AM
1

I have balls, I just find it more efficient to play with them and then do something else instead of try to attract rude, entitled cunts
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 07:12 AM
1

There's less of a divide, but still a clear divide between those who are born into a class and those who are just visiting it. A college degree does not raise you up a class unless you have something to show for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 06:55 PM
1

You mentioned black people, they used the feminine plan too. Only other option is to violently take it back, because no one gives a fuck about men in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 06:59 AM
1

Aren't these two sentences contradictory? This is exactly my point. Women think it grants them a higher social class, not realizing that without an actual outcome, they aren't a higher social class.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 06:57 AM
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Fuck no it doesn't. A social class doesn't let new people in, you're always going to be an outsider in that class. Only people born into that social class will pass through it naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 06:57 AM
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Being able to chameleon something doesn't make you something, you're born with it or you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 06:56 AM
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Don't ask them to listen, make them listen. Right, because men forcing women to listen is going to be taken as anything other than violent or misogynistic. Women don't care about tough-talk, they care about feelings, and they're not going to feel guilty about men in that way for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:34 AM
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A college educated art student with no money in the right city with the right values is higher class than a man who has prole values and a multimillion dollar plumbing company No, she thinks she's higher class because she's been rubber-stamped by an institution. If she can't even buy her way into the place where higher social classes congregate, she's not higher class. Social class is not taught to you by a university, you're born into it. Only your kids could get uplifted by a rich upbringing, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:31 AM
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It's not misogyny to have the conversation, but feminism and women run the ship right now. They don't want to give up their privileges in the name of equality, especially because they've been taught that they don't really have any privileges as women especially when compared to men. Convincing women they're wrong and they should give up some of their luxuries is not insurmountable, but they're not interested in listening. Also on a personal basis, by the time that happens I'm already gonna be ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:25 AM
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Women changed the system, African Americans changed the system, Guilt changed the system. Nobody feels guilty about anything that happens to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:16 AM
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What can they do if women are being selected over them? Changing the system would be considered misogynist and anti-woman, but changing the system is also the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:08 AM
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College education doesn't boost you up a social class. College education AND money does.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:08 AM
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Or perhaps its the outcome of the prioritization that men get left out to give spots to women just because they're women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 03:58 AM
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they dont "see" it as dating down, its LITERALLY dating down Not necessarily. Blue collar trades can and do out-earn non-STEM fields and women aren't exactly flooding STEM. Women treat education like a status indicator instead of a path to making money. No one gives a shit about a rubber-stamped education unless it actually pays for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 03:52 AM
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They wouldn't be abandoned, they would just be kept apart. Which tbh is something I'd rather have anyways. I like things compartmentalized, I don't like different elements of my life mixing together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 03:50 AM
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It's more that women care about men's maturity and men don't care either way. Men can make their own money and don't really care if women do or not, women care too much about it even though they can make their own money now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 11:10 PM
2

Why is there so much psychological resistance to these ideas and these dynamics among individuals? For me, it's because I'd rather be liked as a human being than more for the things I can potentially provide. Those things are mine (it's not like I have much anyways, but still) and I like my things more than I like human beings, I'd rather not give them away as payment to keep someone around who doesn't care about me either way. Also there's other men who get it for free and I don't really apprec…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 11:01 PM
1

I don't think there is a moral problem with sluts, it's more that they're high risk for those who want a long-term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 10:47 PM
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Nope. Women see it as nothing because they don't see sex as important (it's easy for them to get), for men is the ultimate reward. If you complain about sexism and then a guy is blatantly sexist to you and then you fuck him, you've just destroyed your credibility and don't stand for what you proclaim to at all, and you're making the problem worse by okaying the behaviour with the most positively reinforcing way of all. If you think deserve any credibility afterwards, you're straight up dumb, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 10:46 PM
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fucking isn't a seal of approval of someone's moral character. Yes it is. It's one of the biggest ways to activate someone's biological reward system. Men will literally risk death for vag, fucking a dude positively reinforces his behaviour. And again, completely destroys her credibility, because it proves she actually doesn't care all that much about sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 11:56 AM
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Maybe? I'm tall, autistically like uncool things and don't care too too much about my appearance so that probably work against me as a woman. But on the flipside, I can be timid and shy and that's a positive for women, my mind is dirty as fuck which is neutral for women (probably a positive but I can see where it isn't). Bullying involving girls and women sucks because you can't beat the shit out of them because it's unwomanly. Bleeding monthly is a negative and having to tell people that no, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 05:21 AM
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I'll grant some of that, but also at the same time, I think a lot of women wouldn't have problems finding a guy who's interested long-term, she just doesn't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 12:52 AM
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Men do as a whole. They have to work harder for longer to even qualify as halfway attractive, start at dead 0, are expected to do most of the pursuing and some of us never get to a point where women think well of us. Women on the whole start as valued and their work is more in figuring out how to maximize their looks with cosmetics and clothing, which is on the whole easier to learn to do and easier to do day-to-day, with probably the biggest issue being the day-to-day expenses of it all. Once y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 12:46 AM
1

TBH, I'm heading towards permavirgin status in my 30s and if someone was playing hard to get, I'd just leave
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 11:14 PM
3

Just so you know OP, I made the same point you did in one of the top comments and been downvoted to hell for it. Women really hate it when you hold them to their word.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 10:51 PM
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at no point did she say him being a pos got in the way of him being a good lay. But she did complain about sexists and then fucked a blatant sexist. You have to be dumber than rocks to believe that doesn't make you a hypocrite and doesn't destroy any credibility you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 10:28 PM
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She has no right to complain because she not only okay'ed the behaviour but positively reinforced it in one of the strongest ways you possibly can. Turning your ideology into a shit-test is the best way to destroy your credibility. I think the top comments are tied to that bizarre thing where women don't actually want to be held to their word because their feelings can change what their word means at any time. They want their cake to look at and eat it too. They want to be able to stand for some…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 09:01 AM
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