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Well duh, why would she stay with him? He's missing a kidney!
/r/TheRedPill20/01/22 12:56 AM
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Significant. Hence the celebrity. If it wasn't typical there'd be no way to agree and form a consensus on beauty.
/r/BlackPillScience10/01/22 04:28 PM
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This is a grossly innacurate framing of beauty. This is PREFERENCE, not beauty. Beauty is who the most people agree is attractive. God this stuff gets so me so irritated. Like how do these people spend so much time kvetching on this stuff and not just accepting reality and framing around it. Guess what they'd find if they calculated the face that "looks the most similar to the most number of people?" Facepalm. Like who do you want to be, the person who is facially similar to an incel "beautiful"…
/r/BlackPillScience11/11/21 10:19 PM
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🤣🏆🤡🌏
/r/PussyPass01/11/21 05:03 PM
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This is measuring what the most number of people would agree on which is objectively the most attractive.
/r/BlackPillScience21/10/21 05:29 AM
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Not a naysayer at all This sub has been starting to lean blue pill for a while since it's gotten invaded by literal blue pills, so just obnoxiously guarded. A lot of people lately want to be spoonfed information and then if it doesn't fit what they want use unreasonable standards of their burdon of proof or expect you to start serving them citations. Yeah that makes sense. For what it's worth, you don't have to be a statistic. Especially if your wife (assuming you're married) and you have open c…
/r/BlackPillScience19/10/21 06:02 PM
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This is the consistently happy category, I don't think it's related to the limerance couples (a subset of the happy category). My personal read on that is it's probably one part "patriachial" systems (female is naive) and another part biological compatibility (enough AF traits). I would expect as female N increases, the number of these couples decreases. Both consistently happy and the limerance couples. But forecasting that stuff is always way harder than you'd think. Especially considering how…
/r/BlackPillScience19/10/21 03:59 PM
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Consistently happy does not mean in limerance though. That was a seperate study that I put some time into digging up again but just gave up. I don't really care about satisfying every single naysayer. But if you want the true picture of relationships, that's it. I went in expecting numbers much lower which I feel like is always a good sign you have good data. All in all, it shows that it's pretty much a crapshoot but there's no small number of people happy in their marriages. Another surprising …
/r/BlackPillScience19/10/21 03:55 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/7t8pb9/oc_first_marriage_positive_vs_negative_outcome/ I spent a lot of time looking into this, it's not bullshit but you're free to be as angry as you want that some people actually remain in love. Thought I was jaded, lol.
/r/BlackPillScience19/10/21 02:24 AM
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Yeah. I'm saying the limerance period for them lasts forever. They did brainscans and everything.
/r/BlackPillScience18/10/21 10:28 PM
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Mostly true but there is a small subset of relationships (about 7%) that actually are forever.
/r/BlackPillScience18/10/21 09:14 PM
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That's the entire point of the posts I've made about AF\BB about how high-betas create these coping mechanisms to describe themselves as "Chads." The very nature of being the man that offers her commitment firmly places said man into the BB category. So you take a guy who would otherwise be a "Chad" and the moment he actually promises to stick by his woman, he's instantly betafied himself. And then the guy that was a notch or two below him, now suddenly has the allure of the guy who "wouldn't co…
/r/BlackPillScience18/10/21 09:13 PM
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I would say it's more accurate to say none of the studies are reliable in areas that are politically or emotionally charged. You can come to pretty bias free conclusions about people's feelings about corndogs when asked before breakfast or dinner, but once you start challenging the disney fantasy (TM), then well... I guess you "can't prrooooove she actually wants to fuck Chads, I even asked her!"
/r/BlackPillScience12/10/21 06:29 AM
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Yeah for women trying to disprove red pill men, but certainly not men who are sexually active lol.
/r/BlackPillScience12/10/21 06:27 AM
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Lol if you believe this.
/r/BlackPillScience12/10/21 03:16 AM
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Inform us then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:13 PM
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Doesn't actually dispute my point at all. Point is merely occupying the spot of the eternal skeptic that refutes anything that is impossible to otherwise refute as the exact basis of a claim is impossible outside of mathematics and a few points in hard sciences. Many claims that underpin the basis of science itself, e.g. gravity, relativity etc. Are basically just assumed true and your claims of skepticism of their basis of truth within the understanding of how the world works would be equally "…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:31 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Susana_Field_Laboratory BTW the sort of "logic" you're implying is why these children are suffering through all sorts of abnormal cancers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:48 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxhKrtb3XsE&ab_channel=Key%26Peele
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:29 PM
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So what is your position then? lol. You literally have no position at all. Can't tell if troll or stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:59 PM
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That's not even a reply... if you think there's a misread of the studies then point out what you think is incorrect. The studies are literally about cads vs dads, I'm not editorializing it. Those are the terms they use to describe the preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:08 PM
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That's what the meta studies were for. Look up the "cads vs dads" papers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:59 PM
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Literally AF\BB Cads vs Dads, Chads vs Brads... and you are surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:58 PM
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Start a CMV then, lay your position out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:56 PM
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https://onlinepethealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Dunning-Kruger.jpg You're on the left hand side of the graph.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:27 PM
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I like how you think by saying nothing at all you look smart. People in this debate have been at it for years, you're here showing 95 level knowledge. We call it "irrational skepticism." Maybe just a badly programmed bot I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:11 PM
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You think that women who aren't asexual or lesbians aren't constrained by evolution? lol. You don't believe in evolution at all then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:41 PM
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lol at not thinking evolution is female mate choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:36 PM
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Do you think a woman's sexual preferences are evolutionary?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:34 PM
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Guy, even women on here straight up admit they have two different mate preferences and readily admit they marry Brads and prefer Chads. It's not even controversial in these chambers. So I'm not sure what your position even is here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:15 PM
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Women like alpha males who are simps only to her, that was what I thought. This is the preferred LTR, the female version of "lady in the streets, freak in the sheets." But women find this trait unattractive. Again, being a good dad is a femine quality. It's "good on paper."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 07:43 PM
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You can have a happy married life like that and not feel bad. You do you. Men find motherly qualities attractive for LTRs. Sure, but it's not like you see a woman who is a good mother and think she's less sexy. Because her being a good mother means she still equally as feminine. But you being a "good dad" means you're less masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:19 PM
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Who cares about political backlash, a lot of it is just coping. Imagine you're John T Sciencedork researching this, how readily are you going to admit that your entire worldview on women is fundamentally incorrect? It's easier and more comforting to explain the results away. And a lot of guys have to go through this process on their own, so being a scientist doesn't change anything. Being skeptical doesn't change anything. It's just a difficult thing to process because it destroys any semblance …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 05:58 PM
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You're confusing the sub the blue pill and what red pillers call being blue pill. The sub blue pill is anti-red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 05:53 PM
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When it comes to arguments, blue-pilled people tend to believe in studies based on self-reported surveys Not even. They'll disregard all surveys that don't fit the narrative. It's why you can't even get them to admit that a woman's sexual choice is evolutionarily influenced. Even though they'll claim they use "science" to make decisions when presented with the most obvious point which would require some commentary by the science body they'll just go into denial. As if a woman's pussy gets wet fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 05:45 PM
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The delusion scale is where that website becomes bitter and bullshit, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:50 PM
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“Stability” is relative. Scrapyard guy probably has an explosive temper and two or three OOW kids and an arrest record but he is not currently in prison, so I guess if your standard for alpha is “currently in prison” then yeah okay she is settling for BB. Well yeah it's relative. But it's not that literal. It's down to what is his purpose. Why has she selected him? Is he her best option "for a relationship" or does she feel she has the man who she believes she deserves. That's what this thread i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 01:08 AM
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If she's with him for stability and settling for him, then he is beta. If she's with him because she's very attracted to him, and doesn't care that he's a loser otherwise, he's AF. If she settled with him because he's attractive but still pines\wants the lawyer Chad then he's BB. Penultimately if she's with him for stability he's BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 12:41 AM
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Mobile typo, corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 12:38 AM
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tl;dr AF\BB doesn't exist and my mother's family has women who actually are happy with betabucks. k.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 11:08 PM
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Yes, she's settling for the other guy. Also, most of them have told themselves some reason why they actually deserve this guy. Not to mention a good number of them have slept with these guys, and then use "all men are assholes" to bridge the gap on why they're not in a relationship with them. You're blind to this because your expectations and market are in parity. And a good majority of the women at PPD are afluent, so they're arguing from within their bubble. The vast majority of ppd women I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 11:01 PM
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No shit... welcome to 095 level on this topic. The entire point of discussion is centered around median women who think their minimum is a 6', in shape man with a good income and education. That 50% women are looking at 1% men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 10:51 PM
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Are married men in their 80s part of the US population? You've got your stats backwards. e.g. relative vs absolute risk reduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 10:10 PM
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Doesn't address the reply I made.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:18 PM
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Are you of median attraction level, intellect and income\education? e.g. a fat woman with a 100iq and a HSD?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 08:06 PM
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I looked into this before and was suprised to see someone actually publish what I was working on before. The association between the variables is actually much lower than you think. e.g. even though taller men usually have higher incomes, it's not markedly so. And there are negative correlations too, e.g. men who are educated are often less physically attractive (education is a mechanism men use to try and obtain partners who can't otherwise compete). So in the end, those differences aren't actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 08:05 PM
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Nothing about it is misleading except for your own implications. It's like people who read stats about crime and think it's "racist."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 08:02 PM
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They're laughing at the implication that they mean anything to real-world daters. It's targetted at median women with upper percentile taste. e.g. fat women with a HSD trying to date chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 08:00 PM
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The tool isn't designed for women who are dating in the top percentiles of available mates. It's for median women to understand where they stand. e.g. A woman without a degree who is overweight That is a median woman. A hairdresser who is 5'4" and fat. If you have a HSD and are fat then we want to hear about your stategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 07:59 PM
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They're facts, you just think the context is poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 07:57 PM
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Not how it works. The woman my dad married at 65 years old had permanent alimony from a husband like 20-30 years before they met, and like 10-15 before the guy before. So she was dating men for 20-30 years and only married my dad shortly before it was to expire as a hard limit at age 65 because of retirement age. It actually could have been 40 or more years. Whatever it was, it was pretty insane and they both concealed the story in the way and lineage of how they told the story. She even had a k…
/r/PussyPass23/07/21 01:12 AM
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There are shit women. Don’t fall into the other mistake that Uber frame makes them behave proper. Truth is a lot of blue pill guys select awful women and MRP won’t tell them that. Two states . Bad man, bad woman. Both are in high supply.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/21 06:48 AM
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Sure I’m just saying the allure fades. The first time I saw a Dodge Viper was at an auto show with the 93 concept car. It was the most incredible thing I had ever seen in my life up until that day as a child. Now I see a Ferrari F50 and go NEAT. Difference between liking pussy and putting it on a pedestal.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/21 04:13 AM
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I'm not a big fan of mental schemas with this stuff. All I can say is if you have enough really hot women, by whatever way is possible, it will absolutely zap the entire pull of it away and you will be free. For me,and it may not be universal to all men, I was consumed by thoughts of the ever hotter woman. Even if my college girlfriend who I'm still with and have kids with was "very hot." If she was a 7 or 8, what about the 9 or 10? Truth of the matter is the delta between that 7 or 10 or whatev…
/r/TheRedPill22/04/21 01:47 AM
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Reality 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/BlackPillScience02/04/21 03:25 PM
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You can get the other number through genealogy studies.
/r/BlackPillScience02/04/21 03:24 PM
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This just in, average male chooses the beta male lifestyle.
/r/BlackPillScience31/03/21 02:46 PM
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It's more like 3%. The distribution of men who test is much higher because there is an in group bias.
/r/BlackPillScience31/03/21 02:46 PM
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I don't see how you or OP disagree TBH. I think we all agree that men who offer commitment to older women are low value men. I guess you'll have to expound out so I can address your concerns.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/21 06:55 PM
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Because OP actually understands the motivations of men vs women, and explains why it would be foolish to commit to this woman. In terms of the wall, for women, it is focused around obtaining high betas. These are men who typically harbor actual and real beta views. They are looking to start families etc. This coincides with Rollo's overservations of women nearing the wall. Now within this view, it is mostly about a woman's maternity window closing. But more or less, these are all the same thing.…
/r/TheRedPill29/03/21 05:57 PM
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+1
/r/TheRedPill29/03/21 04:45 PM
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So what? Do you fuck men?
/r/TheRedPill18/03/21 06:16 AM
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And? It gives them deeper insight into the problem. Doesn't mean it's related to getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 06:05 AM
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Black and red pill aren't voting things. You understand the argument I've fleshed out involves the state not sexual markets right? Two pronged like I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:33 AM
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There's two prongs to the issue. On the prong you're discussing, it's partly correct. I won't really bother arguing further because I wasn't talking about that. What I was discussing is more about society itself. A large number of men at TRP are so dissillusioned because they fundamentally can only view America through a paternal, patriarchial lens. They see the erosion of voting for national interest and see people voting against the nation itself, as merely occupants of the host country. I sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 12:43 AM
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I am. Women aren't built to handle the problem, that's why this issue doesn't have a common ground. It's why many people become nationalists who think women shouldn't vote after a while at TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 04:09 PM
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Men in general are oriented in a society building way. Women aren't built that way, it's a struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 03:53 PM
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Dangerously based
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 03:51 PM
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They're family oriented 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 03:18 PM
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divorce is heavily stigmatized thanks to cHuRCh. Yeah, she said she is talking about stable men to start a family with. k-selection stuff. These are men that are oriented around nuclear families and have other people who will enforce moral behavior or excommunicate them. very well may https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 03:06 AM
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Semantics. The absense of poor behavior is devoid of the need for control. Doesn't matter what the method is. Much higher SMV, status, government regulation, fear. The only possible last resort is overt control. At that point you've already lost. Modern men have been mostly brainwashed so they think they can reason with women\arousal\evolution. But regardless, marrying the same or higher income woman is the proper response.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 03:04 AM
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Not entirely true. Kids in families where their parents openly fight fair worse, all else equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 01:28 AM
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nothing is prohibiting the latter from doing so, other than their self-imposed requirements. Right, which you're actually debating right now. From what I understand, you're bothered that middle class women aren't being given the same number of opportunities to marry doctors and the like anymore and this is somehow men's fault? There is no shortage of middle class men who want kids. This already played out in Europe. It's women who don't want to have kids with middle class men, not men who don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 12:15 AM
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OP seems to be washing high income with the word "stable."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 12:11 AM
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rather than any kind of causative mechanism. No one is saying that it is a causative mechanism, instead, n is a reflection of LTR stability. This is another K vs R debate thing. The logic is pretty simple. The kind of person who has sex with 100 people is extremely unlikely not to have sex with many more after that. Or "previous history predicts future behavior." It's why jobs want to know if you've been fired before, if you have a criminal history etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 12:10 AM
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Absolutely 100% true. Reaching fully developed male sexual mindset will turn you into a woman. True abundance mentality is actually what OP posted. OP says he gets attention but it's not "crazy" but he is probably top 5% and doesn't realize or understand it. Being top 20% still has subjectivity at play, so top 20% women don't all want him, but 1/4 of them are competing for him. Great post to pick apart here, nice job OP. To OP : Time to start a family and find a stable woman, you have bargaining…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:51 PM
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Lower class women marry middle class men all the time. It's not unusual at all. I think you're concealing the fact that you are mostly concerned with the fact that men who make 6 figures rarely marry women who don't anymore. That seems to be your actual axe to grind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:38 PM
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No it isn't. In modern America, poor men, women and children are all overweight. It sounds like what your CMV is, resembles something to the effect of "women of lower classes want to live like they're in higher classes so xyz..." If you define stable within the confines of a family, that simply means a man who is willing to stick around her and the kids for the right reason. That he loves her and his kids. That is exceedingly simple to find. For a start, putting a profile on Match.com is a start…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:36 PM
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Middle class men? Sure. Doctors, lawyers, CEOs and the like? They all know someone who lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in a divorce. I mean maybe indirectly it leads to a general consciousness that marrying across class is bad, but I don't think a doctor or whatever is sitting there thinking "I'd totally marry that hot secretary if it weren't for those pesky divorce laws", you know? Well that's exactly what used to happen, so draw your own conclusion. In fact it was much more common for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:30 PM
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Absolutely nothing is stopping middle class people from having more children other than middle class people want them less than previous generations. Your claim that some women "can't find men to have children with" is proposterous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:28 PM
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Yeah because of no-fault divorce laws. It used to be if your secretary wife wanted to leave you, it meant she lost her lifestyle. Now it means she gets half. So high value men marry moderate to high income women so when or if she leaves, they take half of what they put in. And since you look very new to this, prenuptual agreements are mostly worthless. So is trusting a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:27 PM
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Do you even bother researching anything in even a rudamentary way before starting a CMV like this? Even mediocre women have an abundance of men who are stable who throw themselves at women. Since you have class here as one of your metrics, are you trying to define stable as moderate to high income? In terms of keeping a family together, you're simply talking about R vs K selection for men. K selection = Beta male. These men are in extreme abundance across class and attractiveness levels. Take yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:25 PM
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It's something like NPD men are more committed to controlling women and are naturally more driven to dominate them, forcing them to learn from other equally as driven men. Blue pill men just don't have the courage, even if such courage is a function of disorder, to break through to the other side and start manipulating women (even though women de facto manipulate men). It's not a diss on TRP really, just pointing out a likely truth. It doesn't make what they're saying wrong, although I will poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:08 PM
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Huge negative. When you say "society" that implies marriage, family units etc. I mean I don't even need to type out the response here, everyone knows what's happening. Everyone. In 10-20 years when whites have the same number of single mothers as blacks and hispanics, and only asians avoided the trap, I'm eager to see the optics that develop from that. Going to be a lot of crime in the future and a lot of broken men and women. Letting women vote was a huge mistake. I think that single action alm…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:17 AM
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I mean this is just straight math. Take the number of men who aren't short, who have degrees and good jobs and what do you think that percent of the population is alone? How open are you to interracial dating? What about DUIs and or Felonies? Now what percent of those men have good faces, and then what percent don't have kids already, how many of them are good natured? Now what percentage of those men do you get along with? Which ones have "the spark?" This is the mathematical basis of the moder…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 01:28 AM
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It doesn't matter, because he's mathematically more rare so he has the pick of the litter. That's why this man is called "Mr. Dreamy." We call him a blue pill alpha male. Having the physical traits and the masculinity, but still being blue pilled. It's like the thin big tittied virgin that wants to be a stay at home wife. She decides who she wants to be her husband, she'll have an almost infinite number of serious suitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 01:20 AM
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Yeah but what's the selling point to the good natured masculine man after you've made all of the "mistakes?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 01:07 AM
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Well yeah, that's the "red pill." That's why this stuff is so divisive. Imagine you're billy beta and you learn this about your wife, who by now they know a few ex-boyfriends and now they start to connect the dots that they're just the safe choice. The guy that won't cheat, but not the guy that she's wild about. These men are raised to believe their good traits are "attractive." Which obviously is rediculous. That's what they call being "blue pill" on here. Guys who think their good nature trait…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 12:21 AM
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I'll give anal to youuuuuu and your best friend tooooooo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 11:30 PM
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conflict with their conscious self-images This is well written, I've always said they are "well meaning." They always have an excuse why their situation is slightly different. When in reality it's always the same, pass on the good guy who isn't attractive, fuck the masculine man, tell men to be like the good guy. What weirds me out is when they have some sort of group reflection on it and then instantly snap back into the false delusion they're different and it's not like that. Makes me believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 11:29 PM
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It's not that simple. Beta males actually believe what women tell them. And women believe this in sort of a convoluted way too. Basically it's something like "yeah I know I like guys who treat me awful and don't care about me, but those guys were just jerks and I made some mistakes, they all hurt my feelings, if I could do it all over again I'd be able to see that Billy Beta actually is a great guy, I guess my situation is different." So both of these camps for the most part believe it when they…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 11:23 PM
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That's because it's unrelated to marriage failure, which is what the OP is examining. The primary mechanism of failure of these women's marriages is the elevation of their arousal floor, at least that's my long standing hypothosis on the matter. A man's arousal floor doesn't change because men and women have different evolutionary purposes. Men can become more jaded, less idealistic and more pragmatic and stay in a marriage. Because what is involved to get a man aroused and bring him to orgasm i…
/r/BlackPillScience24/02/21 09:16 PM
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Why is it just women’s sexual encounters that matter and not men? It's not. Both men and women's romantic pairbonding is damaged by high partner counts. Both become more jaded, more pragmatic and less idealistic.
/r/BlackPillScience24/02/21 09:05 PM
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Let's be real here. No study is going to be acceptable to you. Even though the most basic analysis is that women who have high numbers of partners are unlikely to stop, because that simply put is their lifestyle. It doesn't matter what your lifestyle is, it's difficult for people to stop. If they eat too much, it's rare they stop eating so much. If they love traveling, it's rare they stop traveling entirely. Also I think it's cringey that someone who says they have a "soul mate" is offended by t…
/r/BlackPillScience24/02/21 08:20 PM
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No, because you're neurotic.
/r/BlackPillScience24/02/21 08:16 PM
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does not mean i am submissive to him in life I legit feel sorry for this guy.
/r/BlackPillScience24/02/21 08:07 PM
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Did he cite a study with 100%, or 80%? So you're 1 in 5.... so far.
/r/BlackPillScience24/02/21 08:06 PM
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TBH there's barely any information on this because it's very controversial. You can look into the governments 83IQ cutoff to glean some information. Sorry was wrong at 85, 83. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-Ur71ZnNVk
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:26 PM
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Explain
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 03:23 PM
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This doesn't mean that "attractive people have a higher IQ." It actually means unattractive people have a lower IQ. The mean IQ of a complete sample is supposed to be 100. The fact that they have barely a blip higher for attractive, and almost a full deviation below, shows that being unattractive is correlated to lower IQ, but not the reverse. 5 IQ points above 100 is indiscernable, and I don't think IQ can even truly claim to measure this difference (observable only in aggregate), only record i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:22 PM
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No it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 11:55 AM
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Yeah because those mother fuckin' widows peaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 11:07 PM
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These women don't have a mom-mode. They're type-a neurotics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 11:06 PM
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should Okay, how do you think women should act? TRP is based on how women do act. TRP's quisi pro-life stance is based on how men want women to behave, and their actions are based on how women do behave. At TRP this is known as "enjoy the decline." Besides, birth control isn't a male problem, it's a female one. Yadda yadda child support. "Men just want women to suffer for being sexually free." Yeah something like that. Men don't see a way for a society to flurish otherwise, that's what you can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:39 PM
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We're talking about sexual relationships, not strictly romantic ones. Most people (99.X%) on this forum define relationships within the context of having a sexually intimate relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 06:57 PM
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At least some of y’all advise to seek some form of therapeutic outlet at least Sure we do. Hobbies, gym, exercise, etc etc. Often called "monk mode." Suffer in silence is another way it's put. It's a lesson all men learn sooner or later, unless they want to be the betafag that women pity. It's a strong moment of growth when men realize that when they are weak that women don't want to help them, that instead they pity them. From a masculine perspective, it's lower than being hated. Women think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 05:35 PM
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All part of masculine growth. Reborn harder. ✌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 03:37 PM
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Men consider showing vulnerability and being weak the same thing. Men don't consider being strong and anything with that showing vulnerability. There's a small exception for family deaths, but even still, men often report trouble grieving over the death of their mother or father. This idea of the strong man showing weakness is like men imagining the Virgin whore. A strong man sharing whatever problem he is facing is weak man. There's literally zero upside for a man to share any problem with a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 02:37 AM
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You have a view of this that is understandable and not all that bad, but I've spent a lot of years sussing this out and obsessing over this very point. What breaks this point for you is there is some degree of agency that women seem to argue here that really can't exist. You don't choose to be attracted to someone or not. What you're arguing about is essentually the manifestation of arousal or a lack of it. If you're right, then MRP as a system would evaporate, it wouldn't work. But it does, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 09:34 PM
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I mean to be honest, there's no practical difference here if you just say "the spark is lost" and dump him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 08:48 PM
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Just post hoc rationalizing poor behavior. The learned experiance of BOTH blue and red pilled men, is women will leave you if you show weakness more often than not. This isn't even a point blue pill men tend to disagree with us on and there's loads of reddit threads with blue pill guys sharing their "I let my guard down and she squashed me like a bug" story.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 08:46 PM
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Yeah but four hands and two mouths are just better than two and one. It's math. Trust the science... biggot.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/21 09:06 PM
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I don't disagree at all. It's the basis of this entire debate. TRP is a support group for (mostly NPD) men who get cPTSD when they realize their conception of reality is shockingly off base. The first step is denial, and they do that by ascribing blame to their (often cluster-b) "unicorn." BP men and women (who live the cave) then try to gaslight them back into their false truth. Regardless, my point being is that people do it. Even if they're unplugged. I would argue that the further someone ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 10:01 PM
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aphantasia I think you should understand that people who don't have this do spend a considerable amount of time speculating in their own minds how things will "play out." So when people fantasize, they do literally imagine an ideal scenario. Also so this literal battle between WASPs and da juice has been playing out since the dawn of civ ey?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 08:11 PM
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None of it matters except she is motivated to please and submissive. If both of things aren't true, then she'd need to be unusually attractive in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:49 PM
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In all fairness I believe you've stated you lack the mind's eye or whatever it's called.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:45 PM
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This is one of those things where you bend concepts into whatever you want them to be which makes debating you pointless. e.g. Men don't "submit" to their mothers, they respect them. It's a cornerstone of patriarchial families that women submit to their men, and children are subservient to both the mother and father. When children disrespect their mother, their father deals with it. The last thing any of my kids want to hear is me thundering down the house after one of them has disrespected thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 01:20 AM
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The use of the word jaded denotes "no longer idealizing their partners." So rather than thinking prince charming is around the corner, knowing your choices are asshole or beta. Rather than knowing the female unicorn is around the corner, knowing all women are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 01:08 AM
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Doesn't matter. Women still registered as happier relative to men. They've been tracking it for a while and it's only gotten worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 01:07 AM
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OP doesn't seem to understand difference between LTR and STR markets and also can't seem to see a more reasonable explanation. That he's not a Chad or a "high beta." He's just... a beta. If I had to take a guess, I'd say his primary issue is mentality. He doesn't have enough balls to compete in the STR market and he's treating LTR mates like STRs, who aren't interested. On a world scale, Japan lays waste to this theory. WGTOW AND men work themselves to death. Now that being said, mathematically,…
/r/TheRedPill28/01/21 06:54 PM
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What men? High value white men? Midwits in those countries aren't getting the pick of the litter. They're living at home or dying of alcoholism. There's literally a subreddit here entirely dedicated to asian men complaining about white men scooping up all the women in Asia. And Russia is marginally better, but not "pick of the litter." And that is mostly to do with gender ratios.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/21 12:38 AM
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Fatal flaw in reasoning... Women aren't men. You will be surprised by changes in expectations and how reality changes beyond your wildest comprehension. You literally can't even imagine how much worse it will get because you're still thinking like a man.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/21 07:53 AM
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Do these teams have any men in them at all?
/r/BlackPillScience19/01/21 05:18 PM
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TBH I think if the roles were reversed it would look even more stupid and innocuous. She's basically ridiculing men more than being sexually aggressive.
/r/PussyPass17/01/21 07:10 PM
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I'm mostly talking about the layups you blew for whatever reason. The girl that wanted to show you her stamp collection and you said you weren't into stamps and you were going to go home and play Mario Kart. Or in this case the girl that for whatever reason is rubbing you the wrong way that requires 5% shift in mentality to add it to the notch count.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/21 05:02 PM
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Unless this girl is ugly, you should absolutely fuck her. You will almost certainly regret most if not all missed opportunities as you get older. Especially the missed hints. What most men usually feel guilty over is leading women on about a relationship. You should not feel guilty leading her on about this. Just like you shouldn't feel good about getting a good deal on a car. Her job is to convince you that it's worth it, and she will trade sex for it. Her mistake is usually to think that alone…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/21 05:11 AM
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No. This is only true for men. Women find men near to their own age the most attractive. A man's attractive ideal is fixed, a woman's is dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 05:26 PM
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C's for Bs.
/r/BlackPillScience07/01/21 04:40 PM
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You got good facial asthetics though and you look cocky AF lol. So I'm sure you're doing alright.
/r/BlackPillScience07/01/21 03:23 PM
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How do these studies always manage to say something simple, in a rediculous way? Study confirms confidence is attractive.
/r/BlackPillScience07/01/21 03:22 PM
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This was never about girls anyway. This was always about making yourself a better man. Nah it was about sex. And you just stopped idealizing it.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/21 09:52 PM
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I agree with another poster with something like too much bullshit here. Short hand is YES. There are a TON of entanglements when a woman has a child with another man. Women who have children with other men are for sex and dating only, so long as you don't take it seriously. Are you cuckolding your own first born son, by resorting to having a child with a woman whose already known birth by prior relations? No, but you are shortchanging him and showing him that you don't have enough sway to be a f…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/21 09:50 PM
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As a side point, I don't think that men think tall women are less attractive. But since height is such a strong predictor of the ability to be able to get her attracted to you, it just simply doesn't make sense to hit on women taller than you. And at 6' you're 2" taller than most men. IRL, I have seen that tall women struggle. But some women make it work for them. I know every woman who is tall makes claims like "height doesn't matter" but I find it unusual that it matters for women who are of n…
/r/BlackPillScience31/12/20 12:01 AM
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Marriedness isn't an indicator of male attractiveness, it's an indicator of male long term mate idealism. This is the "cads vs dads" debate, or AF\BB or "mr right vs mr wrong." As soon as dudes who list 5'5" in their Tinder profile are slaying as easily as 6'4" the point remains. None of your hamstering will discredit reality.
/r/BlackPillScience30/12/20 11:58 PM
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Supermodels are chosen because they are distinct. Sometimes they are both distinct, and conventionally attractive, but it's rare. Also, they're driven by social trends\preferences. e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin_chic
/r/BlackPillScience30/12/20 11:55 PM
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They're saying that income can't be used as a trade-off to the attractiveness of shortness.
/r/BlackPillScience30/12/20 10:46 PM
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This is more backwards logic. Man.... I am getting really sick of reading stuff like this. https://external-preview.redd.it/ENc86v9cGKwxBpiNSFlE4t7yNu65qjEAmz-V2q5aVD0.png?auto=webp&s=d24ee076763c6ef6f7d07225edaaa8266c0d4433 What kind of prick words their conclusions as anything other than the penalties for being short are drastic? Literally the height income tradeoff for being 2" shorter than the median for a man is ADDITIONAL $138k a year, not even adjusted for inflation. Yes, the "benefit" fo…
/r/BlackPillScience30/12/20 06:01 PM
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The red pill warned you about liberals.
/r/MGTOW230/12/20 06:06 AM
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Although certain characteristics of human faces are broadly considered more attractive (e.g. symmetry, averageness), people also routinely disagree with each other on the relative attractiveness of faces. This is a straight smoothbrain way to say that subjectivity exists. "Although certain characteristics of ice cream are broadly considered better (e.g. sweetness, creamy), people also routinely disagree with each other on the best flavor of ice cream. We find that these preferences also are not …
/r/BlackPillScience27/12/20 10:57 PM
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It's da troof though. When guys get red pilled they finally get to relax and understand all the trouble they went through. When women get red pilled, they have to live in reality, which they hate. Guys just want to know what's up.
/r/PussyPass27/12/20 08:35 PM
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Was just a flippant post, chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:15 AM
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It doesn't, was just a random question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:14 AM
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There's an EXTREMELY high correlation between early loss of virginity, large partner counts, divorce and suicide for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 10:18 PM
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I'm stealing that, that's gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 10:15 PM
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They're trying to make people like you extinct so you hate exactly the kind of men you married.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 10:10 PM
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At 5 or so it's basically game over.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 10:09 PM
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Right? There's some poster in here hating so hard on it and like I've eaten at michelin star rated places and yeah no issues having a good meal there. I feel like it's just an all around good analogy to SMV5 man. He may be overweight, he may not have a college education, but man, when he pulls out all 5.5" and gives you a pretty standard lay and kisses you on the forehead afterwards and says he loves you. It's pretttyyyy okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 10:07 PM
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They call it EQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 10:04 PM
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Literally nobody understands "sophisticated" to mean "likes casual sex". That's the point. It's why when you post an ad in the paper for a job you say "must be able to lift 120lbs" even if you sell crackers so that women don't apply. Because everything you don't want is within that word. The attitude, the lifestyle, the mode of thinking, everything they are in a person. Is all in that word. Modern woman, believes she is sophisticated, and that she does that by consuming and sleeping around. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 09:52 PM
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Women aren’t squirming, lol, and that’s why RP men are so mad. RP guys don't care. You're talking about MGTOW\BP\Black pill. What women want is mathematically impossible. Women are openly hostile to average men, therefor, it is impossible for them to be married en masse to what they want. What are you going to threaten RP guys with, sleeping with guys? Literally a woman with a 200 body count on here will tell you we give guys the goods in that department. even virgin women know there’s better me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 09:21 PM
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She understand the gist\heart of the argument and the purpose. And in fact, she even lends credibility to the argument because she has engaged in casual sex but rejects the archetype. Which is why I want to hear more from her to see if I can add any additional scrutiny to it. But it seems to be pretty air tight. I suppose another way to address this is more or less you would probably claim women that save their virginity for a man after college, for non-religious reasons are damaged or something…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 09:06 PM
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You sound kinda like a big city food snob looking down on flyover country and thinking they haven’t had any really good food so they don’t know any better— and no, they generally do. I grew up in the midwest and have eaten at great places across the world including Michlin star locations. And even still, Olive Garden's food is good. That doesn't make me a snob, it makes your argument false. Twist all you want. I would absolutely enjoy sitting down and eating an average, good, fetticini alfredo w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 08:51 PM
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Wasn't directed her, she's not median anything. But Atlas has great info. Curious because I don't understand jews at all. I literally know nothing about their world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 08:33 PM
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DM is fine. I don't know was a comopolitian girl is? It's the girls you don't get along with, "city girls." Modern girls. However you want to put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 08:32 PM
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Sure, but check out the link I gave you. Another female user understands it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 08:31 PM
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Well you have to consider the time, the 40s. Anyways... this should help. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/kgvjew/rpers_when_looking_for_a_ltr_what_do_you_look_for/ggicjbk/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 08:26 PM
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You are the edge case I mentioned, I'd be interested in you expounding out on your life if you feel comfortable. How it unravelled, what worked, what didn't, where you feel you're going. Because sophistication is sometimes correlated with feminity Well.. in what definition of the term feminity? I would imagine if you define it, what you're going to define is actually the cosmopolitan girl, not feminine in the traditional sense. https://www.greatness.coach/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Feminine-masc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 08:23 PM
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How does the polish gentile get the median jewess? And on topic, what is attractive\unattractive about it? I haven't been using pornography for a couple years. But I've been on and off collecting it in a merely objectifying sense. I mean in the past 3 years or so, I've probably jerked off... idk 10 times? And from what I gather, women hate that needy self degredation. Of not just using her for that outlet, even if they complain about frequency it's still just more natural to use her for that out…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 08:14 PM
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Right that's the purpose of the analogy. It's an SMV5 man. No college, overweight, just an average guy. Not the best, not bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 08:08 PM
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Olive Garden is a good food to those who aren't disserning. Your average American would not dispute that Olive Garden is "good food." Again, average man is 5'10", SMV5, no college and makes $33k a year. The analogy is about an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 08:06 PM
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So you think women align sophistication by the amount of men she slept with or experiences she has had, therefore her feeling superior or "sophistication" derives from her figuring out her worth? Then In figuring out her worth this ends up becoming a part of her personality that she plays upon and boasts when finding a suitable partner for her needs? More or less, yes. When she gets to the point of feeling jaded from her past experiences - this is where you feel she no longer seeks love or relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 08:02 PM
1

How come cars take gasoline if you don't want them to explode?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 07:35 PM
1

I never said there aren't women who act masculine. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 07:31 PM
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Right, it's why I mention that she "doesn't consider herself sophistocated." Because that is analogus to the self destructive cynicism you describe after they "find themselves."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 07:27 PM
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A woman "finds herself" before she considers herself sophisticated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 07:24 PM
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I think you need to know that if you have to blame testosterone for failing relationships, you're probably the issue. Never made this claim. Just said men in general don't like women who act masculine, which is true. Then explained why these traits are more commonly associated with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 07:20 PM
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To a large degree that would be true and or "traditionally feminine." HOWEVER, this does leave introverted women who have been westernized who are smart enough not to be offended by the question. From a more autistic point of view, the argument would be wanting a woman who "is a virgin." But this is really as close as you can get in modern times. From here you'd have to suss things out. But I suspect, even an introverted, humble woman who has slept around enough to feel this way would merely ans…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 07:16 PM
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I don't care if she's smart or cultured. It's not relavent. But if she sees herself as "sophisticated" almost certainly this means that she believes she is superior to many women and that she's had sex with enough men to make that statement to feel that way. It's a barometer of sorts. Having sex with a variety of men is literally one of the metrics modern women use to decide if they are. It's an analog to a woman who is in the process or has "found herself." It's an advertisement of her self ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 07:07 PM
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Because men have 12 times as much testosterone as you, so you're simply mimicking natural male behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:53 PM
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I never said that, and I never said a woman sees herself as "unsophisticated." I said she does not see herself as sophistocated. These aren't the same things. But you provide a good example to take apart. Mary has a young adult life in which she no doubt feels very sophistocated in. She has already gone to college and gotten a job. She is cosmopolitain, she is and has been dating. If you were to ask her during this period if she was, she'd likely believe it to be true and think very highly of he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:51 PM
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No. Being cultured is fine. Again, it is the woman's perception of HERSELF. If SHE think's she's sophistocated, she's a hypergamous cosmopolitan. It literally has nothing to do with if she is cultured or not. It's a matter of self perception. If you have grabbed the word “sophisticated” as shorthand for a type of character and perspective that you find unattractive, that’s fine, but you can’t expect other to immediately buy into a construct that exists solely in your own head. I don't find it at…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:32 PM
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Nothing, you just danced around the point so I brought it home. It doesn't really matter what you think of this or that or whatever. No one is saying masculine women can't find a man to love them etc. Just that men prefer feminine women, and that image is a list of traits associated with those words.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:26 PM
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Why, you'll just claim it's methodologically invalid or claim replication crisis. Giving sources to liberal women is a waste of time for the naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:25 PM
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You are a masculine woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:16 PM
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I was asking you. Because they've studied the topic and attractive rich and fit is a predictor of orgasm frequency and intensity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:16 PM
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You're masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:15 PM
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She's not unsophisticated at all. Again, not what we're talking about at all. It's how she sees herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:14 PM
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I agree. But it's the state of competing for women who have hypergamy as a self identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:14 PM
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It's weird that being a productive partner equates to masculinity though. https://www.greatness.coach/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Feminine-masculine-traits-table.001.png
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:59 PM
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Doesn't matter because male arousal window is very wide.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:59 PM
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The average man is 5'10", SMV5, no college degree and overweight. If N=0 he has a high likelyhood his marriage will not fail. That's the Olive Garden analogy. It's not sad, it's reality. Virginity and marriage were systems designed to subvert evolution to build societies on top of.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:58 PM
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What's your point? Again, My concern is with seeing herself as. I've traveled the world with my other half, she's smart, knowledgeable on a lot of topics, but if I asked her that she'd laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:56 PM
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I... think... this is sarcasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:55 PM
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The purpose of imposing these constraints is because monogamy does have constraints. e.g. If you are 6' tall, that means you can't also be 6'7". If you're white, that means you can't also be black. If you're an accountant, it's unlikely you'll also be an oil driller. If you're good at 30 tasks and talents, you aren't going to be good at 30 different tasks and talents. The difference is the frame of reference ultimately. Again, as she becomes more cultured, her expectations increase, and his chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:53 PM
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I gave you a rough example. I told you very clearly, the examples that truly fit this ideal would be faceless. They're literally the opposite of high status wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:50 PM
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It turns out from looking into this most guys actually can. I don't think this sub is too far off the median. Something you should consider is the average man is about 5'10", makes like $33k a year, is overweight and SMV5 and doesn't have a college degree. And most of those guys can please a woman with N=0. Few of those guys are going to do it when N=5 unless he's packin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:49 PM
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I mean that's better than a masculine woman who is unpleasant of considers herself sophistocated and doesn't like making other people happy. But if you liked making people happy it wouldn't matter anyways. It used to be called "having a pleasing orientation."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:46 PM
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Tehe I'm so different. UGGGHHHHHH
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:45 PM
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Most men. e.g. Doesn't even have a college degree, is overweight and is 5'10", SMV5 and works for $40k a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:44 PM
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Because they misplayed their cards. Atlas actually has laid it out before and she's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:43 PM
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That's what she's been told. It's the blue pill lie, but for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:41 PM
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No. The word choice of "doesn't see herself as sophistocated" was very deliberate and carefully chosen. Women who are smart, worldly and cultured are fine. It is women who believe themselves to be sophistocated that are the issue. Because women who believe themselves to be, have an identity that is a hypergamous cosmopolitain. Anyone woman who "believes herself to be sophistocated" literally sees herself as a woman molded after "Sex in the City." She may scoff at that, but if you asked her to de…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:39 PM
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Can you provide exemplars of such traditionally feminine women? This is difficult because if I gather this correctly you're asking not for the conceptual example, but some "well known." Which means they'd be public facing, which means they're "sophistocated" and or cosmopolitain. I think the greatest examples off the top of my head are most of the wives of politicians if they are not in the spotlight. Same goes for the few wives of celebrities who are barely even known by name, or even what they…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:31 PM
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Sure, his constraints are that his supply chain is an average Italian chain. He doesn't have any aged steak, literally zero Thai flavors, his chairs have wheels on them. Hopefully she never looks at the wheels and laughs. Or remembers that time she had Thai on that trip she took and misses the lemonglass flavor which over time has been consuming her mind. And well... I know eating steak is man's thing. Why didn't I try it that one time? Everyone was raaaaving about it. Maybe I'll just sneak a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:17 PM
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Actually the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:12 PM
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They're not entirely wrong. Which is why I've so carefully penned this. Because I do exactly understand the nature of women and the games they play. It's also why the use of this word makes modern liberal women seeth. It strikes at the core of their perceived being. Which is that of hypergamous cosmopolitan. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/kgvjew/rpers_when_looking_for_a_ltr_what_do_you_look_for/gghqh8o/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:36 PM
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It means that modern conceptions of the female identity and hypergamy are inexorable. That's the truth. But it does not mean that women must be this way. That's why having a woman who is naive for a wife is so important. Because otherwise your wife is just some random hypergamous woman who "isn't yours, just your turn."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:34 PM
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I don't care what men find attractive, I only care that the man I fancy makes me feel so. Right, because the concept of a pleasing orientation, being pleasant, feminine are concepts that "sophisticated" women are averse to. Which makes them poor wives from a traditional romantic male perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:31 PM
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Feeling sophisticated, being sophisticated is the nature of a female. It is the nature of cosmopolitan women, who make poor wives. Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:20 PM
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I don't want a problem, I'll tell you that. And the opposite of this is a problem. Which is A masculine women who is unpleasant, who considers herself sophistocated and doesn't like making other people happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:12 PM
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Yeah but now she has a frame of reference and you've removed a lot of the mysticism. I've used food as the example here because it is most relateable. When you're 13, you go to Olive Garden as a nice place as a date. Or at least you used to, I don't know how Yelp\Internet has changed this. But let's put it this way, your understanding of what a good place to eat at was very limited. The chances you are dissapointed by this meal, is pretty low. In fact, most young people if they don't have parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:06 PM
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Take your pick. I would sooner look down on any guy taking care of another man's child. When you're in your 20s you might catch shit for banging hookers, but in your 30s\40s when you're drilling 18 year olds the only guys giving you shit are blue pill faggots.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 03:47 PM
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I mean it's literally zero. If you want to the traditional fairtail Disney fantasy you're basically trying to trick\subvert evolution. The way you do that is by giving her no frame of reference and completely blowing away expectations (Evidence shows that most men can actually do that, which from a system's standpoint is good). By about n=5 the chance is basically zero. The game of courtship, preserving virginity ect was a gambit developed over the course of civilization to game evolution. The a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 03:45 PM
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Why would these guys not just sleep with college prostitutes instead? It's not like these women are going to love him anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 03:40 PM
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Mathematically impossible for all women. Never outdated. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 03:39 PM
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A traditionally feminine woman who is genuinely pleasant, who doesn't consider herself sophistocated who enjoys making other people happy. To be fair, I have a family already. But it's what I've crafted over the years. If by LTR you mean marriage...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 03:37 PM
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No. I'm trying to get you to understand your claim that your short family members aren't persistently single doesn't address the fact that mate choice is primarily driven by born traits and those are the winners of the STR market. (Which again doesn't mean that they get zero partners) If facial symmetry refers to things like cheek bones, forehead size, etc yea that stuff does matter...but great facial symmetry doesn’t come from “scent”. That’s like saying a painting looks nice because it smells …
/r/BlackPillScience20/12/20 03:19 AM
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No, facial symmetry is much more complex than that. You're using weird logic where it makes sense in a strictly logical sense but doesn't translate into the real world. Obviously there is some more natural threshold understanding, because pictures with 100% symmetry don't work in the favor of said male. And it is not a disqualification\binary attribute. The measurements are essentially "to what degree." More or less, without symmetry equalling 1, is a shorthand to some degree of facial preferenc…
/r/BlackPillScience20/12/20 01:38 AM
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It was a meta study that looked at a bunch of mate selection studies. I actually didn't use it for their intended study goal at all, I was just interested in what criteria they determined was consistent within mate selection and what strength they had. So this is consistent across a variety of different studies of different purposes. But to be clear, like I mentioned to the other user, the one that has the most strength is scent cues to facial symmetry by far.
/r/BlackPillScience19/12/20 10:50 PM
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Well you're somewhat one the right path, ALL of them are exagerated to a certain extent outside of facial symmetry by scent. It's the strongest by orders of magnitude. So to a larger degree than most people, even very cynical people realize, attraction is determined at birth.
/r/BlackPillScience19/12/20 10:47 PM
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For LTR selection primarily. It's used to make the decision but it's low on the pecking order for STR mate selection. Scent indicating facial symmetry (chemistry & beauty) Physical dimorphism (height disparity) Gate (swager) Vocal masculinity Jawline Strength* Scent cues to dominance (likely a signal of confidence) Status SMV rank (called intrasexual competitiveness) Arrogance Literally bottom tier trait to invest in if you're looking for women to be attracted to you. But there's not really a do…
/r/BlackPillScience19/12/20 09:54 PM
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No, it's a cultural issue. That's not uneducated, that's a literal fact.
/r/askTRP02/12/20 05:55 PM
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lol who gives a shit. The point is either you expect women are going to engage in fuckery or get blindsided by it. Happened to me once, other people I knew too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 01:25 AM
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What's your point? Guys either figure it out or they don't. If this is an academic persuit, you're correct. We're only concerned with pragmatics at TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:06 PM
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FBI has investigated and studied it. Their estimates vary widely. But there seems to be some concensus on the more honest studies up to 40% of cases are fabricated. Actual rape is extremely rare, but women decide ex post facto that it was rape is extremely common. Almost every guy has a story or knows someone who got drunk and had sex, and the next day or week word got around that he was a date rapist. That is "rape culture." It honestly depends on the perspective of who studies and or litigates…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 07:55 AM
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All you can do is show the counter evidence compellingly. Even our 8 year old knows that BLM protestors are insane. Your kids have to trust your views from you being right a thousand times and them being wrong a thousand times. Also, you can make her put her money where her mouth is. Tell her to donate her laptop and games to black kids because they don't go to school as much as white kids do. When she asks why, tell her you don't know but they choose not to etc. Explain that women are cognative…
/r/askTRP28/11/20 12:06 AM
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Well yes and no. To be frank, white families aren't really setup for this. That's why BLM rallied against the nuclear family. Because in black communities, they're already setup for this type of thing and see being oriented towards the nuclear family as some sort of anti-cultural move. Being single mothers supported by their family is literally part of their culture at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 04:31 PM
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Right, but pull it up by race. I'm not doing it for you but I've summarized what it looks like. Again the black rate is NOT increasing, because it already peaked. Asians aren't, because they somehow avoided the cultural decay. Hispanics are rising but not alarmingly so. It's really white culture that is in actual true decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:48 PM
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How in the fuck is that casual? That's basically surviving. Get outa here with that kikery.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:46 PM
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The only kinds of people who type this stuff are radfems and moronic men. Every woman understands how much work a child is, that's why they need men to help. Even if they take some of the guys paycheck after he bounces she'll be underwater basically forever. These women like every other generation will settle. The only Q is how many women are dumb enough to think when she "settles down" at 40 it's going to work. A LOT of women are clueless about this somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:45 PM
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More children are born out of wedlock each year at a increasing pace in all ethnic groups Not true, Asians are not having that. And it does look like Hispanics mostly have it under control. Blacks already peaked (close to 70%). It is mainly whites that are new to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:43 PM
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Yeah because you were and are dead to her.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/20 09:18 PM
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Of course it's an awful idea. If she wants anything to do with you she'll give you at the very least an excuse. (You left the wrapper of your snickers bar at my house)
/r/TheRedPill16/11/20 08:24 PM
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That's a good one because you can always play it off in both directions. You can make an actual red pill point about it and get everyone worked up and then say something like "and then we don't need to worry about them selling motorcycle helmets in pink, it'll be a man's world again!" Classic AA. Debating anything seriously and or political around women is just a complete fail, so don't take anything seriously. And if she's some radfem nutjob that insists on talking politics she's a liability an…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/20 07:42 PM
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The usual reason for that is that they find someone who is more viscerally attractive but they get pumped and dumped. Women can easily find other men that are more attractive to screw them (It is innate to SMV pairing and competition mechanics), it is difficult to replace long term partners they're attracted to, they have connections with etc. It's fine to take one back, but permanently demote her to plate. Tell her she's a girlfriend or whatever but treat her like a plate. Exactly what she's do…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/20 07:38 PM
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Here's the thing. There's no "winning." That's why TRP is formulated in the way it's formulated. If you were more accomodating, then she'd just hamster that "well... he's been sort of smothering me and something is just off..." What probably happened is she vented to her backups, someone swooped in and she slept with someone she had some connection with. Doesn't even need to be better, just different and a connection. She broke it off because the relationship was truly over at that point and she…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/20 07:31 PM
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There are some misrepresentations IMO. I have mentioned before I am not married for legal business reasons and it doesn't have anything to do with forever girlfriends. We even represent ourselves as married as I mentioned. Secondly, these men do want to get married and have families. The problem they have is that they understand "she's not yours." I think it's important you understand the mentality of men who come to the red pill and understand that very few of them come to it and get these view…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 04:52 PM
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This is one of those studies where you either buy into their picture of the world, or you know deep down in your soul that this is exactly why you became red pilled. Imagine believing this kind of stuff your entire life and dying without ever knowing or seeing the real truth.
/r/BlackPillScience11/11/20 08:54 PM
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This is a peak into the future of the US.
/r/BlackPillScience10/11/20 04:44 PM
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No. Fuck YOU. She made this break because she's under someone else's frame. Women vote their husband's politics. So who is her husband then? Or are you just dead to her?
/r/TheRedPill03/11/20 11:46 PM
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I don't think OP is talking about in a micro sense. You're talking about dominantion and submission. What he's talking about is more akin to outcome independence and "she's not yours, it's just your turn."
/r/TheRedPill03/11/20 02:41 AM
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+1 Short, well formatted and to the point. Not to mention, correct. This post is the entire reason for the design of TRP as a system and spinning plates. If you could control her you could still be a blue pill dope.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/20 09:02 PM
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Study happiness, but don't measure satisaction with your life, promote the idea to students that "having kids makes you less happy" be surprised when they don't want to have kids or treat them like burdens when they oopsie.
/r/BlackPillScience25/10/20 05:10 PM
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I don't typically come into posts with the intention to completely shut a post down, but this post is entirely incorrect IMO\IME. This is true for a very small subset of people, essentially enlightened men and women who lack the will or ability to fully unplug. But the vast majority simply do not believe this. They have idealistic interpretations of themselves and the world. When women divorce their well meaning, meak husbands, they do so with the best intentions. They actually believe their hus…
/r/TheRedPill23/10/20 04:16 PM
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Study aside, getting tattoes is like decorating your house very radically. The people who dig your sense of style are going to like your house a lot, but most people are going to see it unfavorably. What percentage see this favorably, I have no idea, but I suspect it's probably no higher than 20-30% of the population. So I would take that in mind while you think abou this topic.
/r/BlackPillScience22/10/20 05:36 PM
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Yeah I think it's important to structure a "date" in which paying isn't really even a discussion just an expectation. I think that's why beer gardens and similar setups work well too. Just buy your beer and nachos or whatever, let it play out. At the end of the day I'm not 100% anti buying whatever because again, you do you and if you want to buy, that's more authentic than not buying because you don't think you should. At the end of the day buying or not buying isn't going to make a difference …
/r/TheRedPill22/10/20 05:23 PM
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lol, build a better beta is here.
/r/BlackPillScience22/10/20 05:18 PM
2

Yeah man I don't really understand how anyone can settle down with a city girl. Don't get me wrong, no matter where you find them, they're hypergamous, but there seems to be an unbridgeable culture issue difference between the two environments. The city girl phenominon is basically naked AF\BB. Are you ready to be my simp now that I've bouced around NYC?
/r/TheRedPill21/10/20 02:41 PM
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I much prefer a more authentic approach but YMMV. I pretty much ignore the fascad of men and women being friends and stick to a no female friends, no men in her life setup and occasionally sleep with other women but respect and honor the no feelings rule. And well, if you know women that isn't hard. Remember, women will share for the right man. They are primarily concerned with the emotional aspect and treat emotional attachments to other women, intentional or not, the same as you would if she s…
/r/TheRedPill17/10/20 11:06 PM
3

Read old parenting books. Ignore 90% of modern writing on parenting. Mostly focus on maintaining attraction and ensuring your wife takes to mothering tasks.
/r/askTRP15/10/20 06:20 PM
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This makes a lot of sense why women are seemingly against their own interest wanting to normalize promiscuity. Then they can shame the one who is or still upholds the game to appear to be chaste and faithful while they do nothing of the sort. The question then is whether or not men will on the whole "invest" or whether they will treat most or all women as damaged goods only worthy of short term orientation investment.
/r/BlackPillScience12/10/20 09:06 PM
12

Height is a disqualifier and has been measured, it's a HUGE hit.
/r/BlackPillScience12/10/20 02:14 AM
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There's a lot of male projection here. This is sort of like the idea that "women love the fact they can fuck men on demand." No. Women don't appreciate things they have that others don't, this is a human universal. When you pick up a 70lb bag of sand and sling it on your shoulder fairly effortlessly, you don't think "fuck I love being a man, specifically." She doesn't think like that. She just thinks "I am the shit." And this is because men overinvest in women. You ascribe this power dichotomy t…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/20 06:29 PM
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Of course. A 3/10 landwhale has it better in terms of sexual access and overall life security.
/r/BlackPillScience10/10/20 01:44 AM
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Unnacounted for dynamic : Masculinity and feminity Asian males (more feminine), low masculinity, black female more masculine (less feminine). Asian females opposite, black men opposite.
/r/BlackPillScience09/10/20 10:00 PM
1

It's an unoriginal thought. Though I'm glad people are enjoying the read and it's keeping them red.
/r/TheRedPill04/10/20 08:02 AM
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Basically Uncle V is talking about a man's proclivity in modern society to be uber homo number 1 dad. Look at your friends on facebook, 80% of men strive to be this guy, easy to see. He's talking about what poison that is for women, the mindset, the behavior. I agree, 100%. It's the father version of simping. He's saying more or less, most men are father simps, and he's right.
/r/TheRedPill04/10/20 07:59 AM
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You have to be devoid of covert contracts. You have them because you want them. The choice to provide after a relationship ends is a man's own. But I think it's worth noting some things here. There's an interesting way to decouple fact from fiction and ego vs reality at least at a group level. Peterson was very clever about this. He used the bible as a way to reverse engineer what the human spirit was in his estimation, what meaning we had in our lives. So you must ask yourself what exactly is t…
/r/TheRedPill04/10/20 07:55 AM
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Implying your kids won't survive if you're not there. This isn't the stone age, man. Kids in poor families are fat. I understand some women drown their kids and all that, but it's insanely rare.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 10:40 PM
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"The post is efficient in putting across what it needs to."
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 10:39 PM
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Not really. AF is focussed around sexual desirability and male sexual selection power. Children exist as a point outside of that. e.g. Bill gates could father a bunch of children but that doesn't make him AF. It just makes him a high value provider.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 09:34 PM
-3

"World War II was fundamentally about a conflict between the axis countries centered around the bombing of Pearl Harbor and Hitler's final solution. Germany lost."
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 09:22 PM
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1950s attitude in 2020, good luck in the grinder of life.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 09:20 PM
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If you're strong enough she'll reject it too. She's rejecting it right now. We've got BLM seaping into our elementary schools and she's against it. Remember, it is typical that women vote their husband's politics when the household is in order.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 08:58 PM
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The good news if you put your kids before your sex life, the mother won't be in your life anymore anyways. So even if you can't or won't do the surrogate route, you can always be a blue pill doofus anyways.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 08:55 PM
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Good observation, poor post. If this was well written I'd have pointed you. Consider expanding it.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 08:30 PM
1

You can do it yourself. I had mine take hers out for our 3rd.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 06:45 PM
9

Not having kids is absolutely blue pill. Literally the entire history of the world is in your lineage and if it ends at you, that means you're a catostraphic failure in the real game of life. Like no matter what you do, if your wife has a kid that is a different color than you, failure is the outcome of all your work. These situations where reality absolutely destroys the frame of any counter argument. People who have succeded in the micro-game of society, who are in the history books but never …
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 06:38 PM
12

It's basically an unaddressed blue pill reality that requires its own unplugging. What you've done is made a single post that honestly requires an entire series.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 05:56 PM
1

OOF
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 05:25 PM
-9

This is exactly the backwards attitude the post is warning against. Your friend literally tattoed "I will always provide for you no matter what you do to me" on his body. Admirable, but weak.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 05:22 PM
9

"Baby über Alles" Hilarious and true.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 05:20 PM
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This is a controversial post but I can personally attest to this. I rarely have shared my background but my background is absolutely becoming a dufus dad (the creshendo of my blue pill arc) leading to the imminant collapse of my family. I don't have time to type up the reply warranted of this very worthy post, but let me summurize it as quick as possible.... "Nothing changes" "Baby comes first" These two statements are at odds with eachother but it'll make sense when you have kids if you're not …
/r/TheRedPill03/10/20 04:45 PM
3

On the other hand I had men who couldn't stop joking around when I was trying to have a deep talk. Both sexes are guilty of this. Did you mean to type women?
/r/BlackPillScience02/10/20 03:07 AM
9

You're either a bisexual man or a woman so your opinion is worthless here.
/r/BlackPillScience02/10/20 03:00 AM
13

lol
/r/BlackPillScience02/10/20 02:58 AM
29

I have 3 kids with a woman with a PHD. This thread is accurate. I've learned not to explain things in detail. Treating smart women like smart men is always a bad idea.
/r/BlackPillScience01/10/20 09:46 PM
15

Wrong reply.
/r/BlackPillScience01/10/20 09:45 PM
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It's worse than that. Raw intellegence is negatively correlated to both LTR and STR selection. Competency is positively correlated. Intelligence without competence is just useless vanity. tldr; Women want to fuck a roofer and are repulsed by a PHD in roofing materials.
/r/BlackPillScience01/10/20 05:22 PM
3

Literature already exists for these biological triggers. That's what cads vs dad's measures. My AF/BB post is straight from a meta study.
/r/BlackPillScience25/09/20 04:55 PM
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So, if you are RIGHT that this is "hardware" that women use from pre-agriculture times, then the relationship between "physical attractiveness" and "reproductive success" should be clear and evident across all human time and space. It is not. The cads even pre pill do not outdo the dads. Right, because you're talking post aggrecultural. There's little distinction between pre and post pill here outside of the casual sex shift. Also known as the "sexual revolution." What exactly is the point of th…
/r/BlackPillScience24/09/20 05:25 PM
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If you get thrown out of every SMP community as being a moron, who is the moron? Women absolutely choose AF as their preferred mate, because it is sexually arousing. I'm not sure why this needs to be explained to you. Women have access to birth control. Women can sleep with more than one man at one time. Most women don't want to have children with the most attractive man they have sexual access. (in a practical, not spiritual sense) The outcome of these facts is AF\BB theory. In the ideal sense,…
/r/BlackPillScience24/09/20 04:23 PM
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I don't think a lot of you are understanding this is about births, not SMV. It's basically saying "anyone can get some woman pregnant" in study format. Despite there being a casual sex shift, it's not likly this is going to change dramatically in current times. Whatever percentage of women that decide not to have kids will change, but AF men aren't going to stick around so they're still going to look for providers to rope and dope. So take this study, adjust for childlessness expectations and I …
/r/BlackPillScience23/09/20 10:42 PM
2

We were looking for thirds and she didn't even post a picture (since we'd be driving the convo and don't want coworkers etc seeing) and still got messages from real, actual, desperate men. The lesson is that the possibility of sleeping with a woman, is more valuable than the average man's profile (who gets no interest he doesn't farm himself). Edit : Should probably clarify were weren't even looking for men, straight up posted as bisexual interested in women only. Just realized this might look l…
/r/TheRedPill22/09/20 04:11 PM
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That's a brutal red pill right there. Not even joking, you can put up a picture of a bag of rocks and guys will still contact thinking they can get in early.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/20 04:11 PM
5

You post is easily disproven with itself. Woman are hypergamous and love opportunistically. Therefor if a woman loves a man enough, she'll do anything for him, regardless if it actually pays off for her. Simping at its core is just giving attention to someone in a way that doesn't have a positive return for you. Women provide sex to men who don't care about them all the time and actually believe they'll get something out of it. That's what makes it simping.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/20 04:01 PM
2

It's more simple. Male is dominant in any way shape or form. Prove me wrong.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/20 04:51 PM
2

You should learn how to be funny. Every situation that would have been a physical altercation in my life turned out making it physical the loser move. When everyone's laughing and someone wants to make it physical, it just makes them a loser. I've almost gotten punched a couple times but other people have always cooled them down with the understanding "he's cool."
/r/TheRedPill12/09/20 08:04 PM
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Sometimes I wonder how many of them actually believe this stuff though. Like Bill was a master chameleon, so it's doubtful. His "wife" too. Makes you wonder if they were just high IQ enough to realize it was easier to pander to the naive than it would be to try and strongarm the GP into reality. In the long run the GOP doesn't stand a chance. I agree that the USA is a failed state, it just hasn't come to fruition yet, it's merely a matter of time by way of breeding norms. It gets deep though, be…
/r/TheRedPill10/09/20 12:46 AM
1

https://i.huffpost.com/gen/2054856/original.jpg
/r/BlackPillScience09/09/20 09:19 PM
23

Not even. The Karen's were selfish but coherent. It is now jammed full of anti objectivist pedantics. It got so pointless even I left. Even when they pretend to be objective they're just trying to build more of their ever thinner walls to protect their own wanted conception of the world to survive. It's the exact opposite of how men think and achieve greatness. The deeper you get in the post truth world the more your soul suffers.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/20 08:03 PM
10

Except it won't always been $1000 which is the point they were making to you. The economics here are simple, perfect competition drives markets with low barriers to entry to zero. Right now, first world women are competing with women who are being given internet in literal third world shitholes like Medellin. There are literally ethot scouts out in these countries looking for beautiful poor women. Basically any amount of money these women can make is orders of magnitudes more than they could oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 07:04 PM
1

TBH a lot of this is cope. Most attraction seems to indicate in race preference. e.g. Black women are most attracted to black men, white to white men etc. Asians and Indians are the ones that have to worry, which have women that seem to prefer other races to their own.
/r/BlackPillScience09/09/20 06:46 PM
3

She makes more than you and lets you do your own thing. Does as she's told, mostly. You have kids with her.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/20 02:22 PM
3

How is this even a question? Cheating on your spouse has absolutely no impact on the distribution of assets in all but the most outlandish cases. In 99.9% of cases here's the impact it will have on the judge. "Huh... interesting. Did you turn in your bank statements and W2s?" The only things that matter are whether its a community property state, whether you have a prenuptual agreement and how the judge is feeling that day about you.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/20 02:19 PM
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Is he... involunarily.... celebate? And if she's the dead end, could he get someone to replace her? If the answer is Yes and No, then he's an incel. If the answer is No, and Yes. Then he's not. Someone in a dead marriage that could be getting sex with other women is voluntarily celebate.
/r/BlackPillScience08/09/20 02:14 PM
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Well they used to be, that's a more complex question in the last couple years.
/r/BlackPillScience07/09/20 11:30 PM
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Incels never play into the mix because they're outliers. A more likely interpretation is competition is innate to male mating and so the increase or decrease of competitive position doesn't change things besides increase the SMV of obtainable mates. Where as women see a decrease in SMV they can obtain and must compete for very high value mates.
/r/BlackPillScience07/09/20 05:40 PM
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Is attractiveness linked to BPD somehow then? No, this is a market function. 9\10s that can't get 9\10 men because they act like complete basketcases so they have to punch down. Guys in that attractiveness bracket actually have stronger market positions than women in that bracket. So very attractive women that have issues are probably in the worst possible SMV position. I mean they don't have trouble finding men, but they're much less likely to find men who are their "best." A woman who is a 7 a…
/r/TheRedPill05/09/20 09:52 PM
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so she wants a beta guy that wont ever leave, i dont understand what you mean with: mr dependable or mr exploitable? She was looking for her supply, and remember BPDs thrive on a conscious fear of abandonment, and a subconcious desire for it. So "on paper" she's looking for a beta male, in some capacity. An omega male (mr dependanble) would meet her need to look for someone who won't leave and a high beta (mr exploitable) would meet a similar need with higher SMV. In the OP, she had OP pinned as…
/r/TheRedPill05/09/20 06:06 PM
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Now I know why. As you said its the abandonment plus the being accepted. It's your distance. They are fundamentally fearful-avoid attachment style oriented. The quickest way to lose a BPD woman is to love her and get very close to her. More or less BPD forms when a child's subconcious is forming an understanding on what "love" is. It's thought to be one part nature, one part nurter. Being that one, they are predisposed to it, and two, they are exposed to unloving or smothering behavior. Having n…
/r/TheRedPill05/09/20 04:14 AM
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Of course she's not normal, I just typed a thousand chars about her having BPD. She's probably cluster-b, maybe more than one. She's just not a psychopath. That being said, BPD and psychopathy are somewhat similar. BPDs have been called transient psychopaths.
/r/TheRedPill05/09/20 03:52 AM
8

100% Look at the thead and read the responses of these men and never forget what it was like when you thought like them. Freedom!
/r/TheRedPill05/09/20 01:39 AM
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Not a psycho, but typical fearful-avoidant attachment style behavior which is typical in women with BPD. e.g. Close enough to play the game, but not close enough to be vulnerable. Crazy? Probably? Psychotic? Doubtful. This is also how BPD women look for codependant\controllable\beta\blue men. You passed the attraction threshold but failed the controllability tests. What she was looking for is a guy who would "pass" an endless number of shit tests, showing her that you have no boundaries. Naive "…
/r/TheRedPill05/09/20 01:35 AM
19

One small step for man, and women shouldn't have ever been allowed to vote.
/r/TheRedPill28/08/20 11:27 PM
3

There is a lot of truth to that comment. Short term mating strategy is anti-social. That's changed somewhat recently, but you have to be careful about how you present yourself.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/20 04:16 PM
1

There are a lot of truths in this post, but also I think a lot being misconstrued. A lot of what you're saying could be something to the effect of "no high status man can be an island." And this is mostly true, outside of someone like a trust-fund kid, you have to earn your place in the world. But in terms of what TRP is about, short term mating, women aren't all that concerned with status, it's primarily looks driven. So, in a way, this is somewhat a blue pill post. No one should eschew status …
/r/TheRedPill04/08/20 04:14 PM
3

Think? It is. What move do you have in your deck of cards that leads to 32 counts and breaks up a family?
/r/PussyPass29/07/20 03:19 AM
8

tldr losers are unhappy
/r/BlackPillScience22/07/20 07:41 PM
2

Hairy arms are a tell
/r/TheRedPill15/07/20 10:16 PM
1

That's pretty crazy. I'm not versed in any of that, but it would be terrifying to learn that trauma is passed down. But it's tough to look at it that way, because at least for BPD, it is passed by behavior. You can give anyone BPD by treating them poorly as a child, and a large number inherit it, even if their childhoods are good. And you'd think "well, do BPD women mistreat their children?" Well even if they aren't neglected, they can be smothered which produces the same outcome apparently. Way…
/r/TheRedPill15/07/20 07:08 PM
1

I don't think we're talking about the same thing. These women are certified nutcases and a lot of them probably have HIV. It can't be any higher than the distribution of BPDs and that's 1.5%. I've long held the theory that this is a forum of mostly NPD men who have had a lot of run ins with BPD's. And even still, this subforum full of 1%ers, are only running into a handful of these women. Maybe they might increase from .00 whatever percent to .5% or 1%, but there is no possible way. I honestly b…
/r/TheRedPill15/07/20 06:32 PM
1

That was county.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/20 06:22 PM
1

Right, but again, I think it makes more sense to just call this woman a basket-case. There's maybe a hundred or less of these women in each county. The vast majority of sex workers share something in common. That is they place a low value on both the sex itself and romance. The types we're talking about often have a high value on both. More or less male sex drive, female sexuality. From a male perspective, simply realizing you're not up to cut is enough in terms of management. And red flags are …
/r/TheRedPill15/07/20 06:11 PM
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What you're describing is just an alpha widow TBH. But I do agree there is a sort of "uber tier" alpha widow here, but IMO it's less a result of culture and choice and more biology. There are some women who are very high T or have physical issues (e.g. PGAD) or any variety of mental problems (BPD) who have sex drives and thresh holds that exceed almost all male sex drive\supply. Lars Von Trier wrote around this in Nymphomaniac, which I advise anyone to watch. It's got a lot of great red pills in…
/r/TheRedPill15/07/20 03:52 PM
2

A victim of who, or what? And if she's mentally ill, what fate would have she had in 1950? How do you end up at this end without culture shepherding her there?
/r/TheRedPill10/07/20 10:57 PM
11

Invest in suicide booths, cats and alcohol.
/r/BlackPillScience10/07/20 02:51 AM
3

Most electricians don't learn their trade from another electrician. They learn the applied science after studying the topic and THEN learning as an apprentice under a skilled electrician. Almost like having a wingman. Don't hate on the guy writing about how electricity works or modern design practices for electrical work. I've seen this point posted a lot around here. I get it, you want all wingman posts. Fine, just shitcan me and GLO or whoever. Just stop railing the same point if you're not go…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/20 05:32 PM
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Liberal politics and predominant western culture can be used interchangeably. So if it is less offensive, reframe the point as "current cultural norms." e.g. Current cultural norms would excuse this self destructive spiral as "mental illness." People are trend more conservative, would view this self destructive behavior as a symptom of a problem with the culture itself.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/20 03:41 AM
2

Ok, before the feminist revolution, paint me a picture to this woman’s death. Just a thought exercise 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/TheRedPill08/07/20 11:17 PM
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Again, I'd like to hear the lifestyle progression a generation ago and how it would have ended up like this. I doubt it. And in that case, i have trouble buying into the idea that it was "mental illness" and at best you could argue that "this culture is making women mentally ill."
/r/TheRedPill08/07/20 10:54 PM
4

Why is this here? Right in the flaire, red pill example. AF\BB Hypoagency Alpha widow Solipsism Rules for betas Women share high value men etc etc etc
/r/TheRedPill08/07/20 10:42 PM
4

I used to think this way too. Had a couple revelations recently and had to call GLO and apologize. I was wrong, you're wrong.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/20 10:08 PM
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I'm not paid for this. If I wrote it, it's because I think it'd be helpful for men to read and because I enjoyed writing it. I'm not even judging her, this post was written to show a light on liberal culture and the impact of alpha widowhood on women when they aren't masculine enough to thrive within the transactional culture left in the death of god (figuratively). I don't usually respond to comments but I wanted to throw in a couple so people understand the post wasn't vindictive. I know some …
/r/TheRedPill08/07/20 09:47 PM
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It's a bit unfair to blame culture on her actions. I have trouble imagining a generation ago this woman killing herself. I'd be interested in someone to imagine this scenario before she was "empowered."
/r/TheRedPill08/07/20 09:23 PM
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You mean besides the fact it's literal in this case? She wrote a suicide note almost entirely dedicated to the fact the dude wouldn't commit to her and couldn't be assed to care about her. Alpha widow is a good concept to learn and understand in these parts, mainly so you can avoid ever getting suckered into a LTR\marriage with someone like this. It's not a phrase though, it's a concept. A woman who has a higher arousal (STR\AF) threshold than she can get in a LTR.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/20 09:16 PM
2

Interesting fact. Discussions with the police can not be used in your favor. They are considered "hearsay."
/r/TheRedPill07/07/20 05:31 PM
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What the fuck is anyone supposed to do when a mob surrounds your car these days? That's the Q I have.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/20 04:34 AM
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There's a proclivity to focus on how to prevent such a thing, and there's ample writing about this. But the truth of the matter, is the vast majority of these issues are mostly related to one point. DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE The vast majority of false rape cases involve men talking to the police and establishing a lot of legal reasons why you could be a rapist, and that's what a court decides. Your goal, of course, is to never see a court room. And to do that, there needs to be little to no basi…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/20 04:10 PM
3

Degeneracy is the top of hedonism mountain. Please prepare the chocolate for my candy enema Butler boy.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/20 02:23 AM
0

Who cares if a lay is “toxic?” This sub is short term sexual strategy.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/20 02:18 AM
1

I knew it. White women are the key to resolving this.
/r/PussyPass24/06/20 09:48 PM
1

Are you insinuating that men and women are more or less the same?
/r/TheRedPill17/06/20 06:07 PM
7

It's more accurate to say that people are compelled to their evolutionary goal. To your question, it's more accurate to say "would all men cheat if they were constantly given opportunities to achieve their evolutionary goal?" Most would. Just that men aren't handed those opportunities. Where as women always have a line of suitors waiting for their turn. It just takes a while before she comes up with a compelling narrative why he's wrong and deserves to be dumped\cheated on. Ultimately at the end…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/20 05:44 PM
1

How is this related to your post?
/r/TheRedPill17/06/20 05:34 PM
6

Your post : Some women aren't beholden to biology or evolution. That stuff will buy a guy time if she's naive enough, but ultimately this is where a woman's hamster comes into play. You honestly think big daddy evolution didn't put a backdoor in for that pesky feeling of guilt?
/r/TheRedPill17/06/20 05:24 PM
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I have a hypothesis. So we already know that competence is held in high regard by women in the mating market. This is, for all intents and purposes applied intelligence. What I think is happening here is an in-congruence between raw intelligence and competence. In other words, women have an innate attraction to men who can do things which are useful for her survival and demonstrate it. e.g. a male who can build a roof vs men who are simply knowledgeable, but not competent in an applied fashion. …
/r/BlackPillScience16/06/20 07:19 PM
1

None of this has anything to do with racism at all. It just shows that trying to help a neighbor is worthless. Call the police anonymously and move on with your day. Why do you think they want to "defund the police?" Because when the police show up and say "is this your fuckin house?" They either answer, get arrested, or chimp out and end up on a YouTube police shooting video. The mistake these people made was involving themselves instead of just calling the police.
/r/PussyPass16/06/20 06:40 PM
1

CC and "n-count" are unrelated concepts. The CC is serial monogamy\dating. But in terms of how quickly women become "westernized?" By their first non-marital partner they're already vastly different than n=0. By 5, most are fully westernized. After about 15 or so, you might as well be married to a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 03:32 PM
1

Yes it does. That's how a lot of guys end up an incels\blackpill. They get stuck in the trap of thinking as if the world is a study. Guess what your world view will be then? Wishy washy horseshit that can't\won't admit the basics. e.g. How long have we been studying evo? Find me a study that conclusively\concretely states that {female arousal is an evolutionary mechanic} more or less. You won't find it. Because science won't speculate, it won't stick its neck out. (Even though this is clear as d…
/r/BlackPillScience08/06/20 03:27 PM
1

I'm not an autistic reddit sperg. Studies will help you understand things, but there are absolute limits to studies, and framing PD women in a bad light is something studies will never do. For that, you gotta find guys with experience in that domain.
/r/BlackPillScience08/06/20 02:49 PM
2

I have no idea what you're blathering on about. I'm commenting about a subject I have a lot of experience and knowledge in. It's not specifically about the study. I'm addressing the specific mechanisms that are important considerations in understanding how BPD women operate. Namely that they can not pair bond to stable men. If they can, they do not have BPD. Borderlines, specifically, deal with attachment issues formed at childhood and have ill formed attachments, which is why they most often pa…
/r/BlackPillScience08/06/20 01:49 AM
1

This isn't a discussion on neurotypical women, we're talking about borderline personality disorder. It's an attachment disorder.
/r/BlackPillScience07/06/20 11:59 PM
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It's not that simple. Borderlines DO NOT love men they believe won't leave them. They NEED men that make them feel they will be left by. That is the only way they feel love. To find a man she believes won't leave is to find a man she does not love.
/r/BlackPillScience07/06/20 11:29 PM
3

IDK man, kind of hard to hate on this as long as he knows the rules of the game. Throw in a hall pass and this is fat wife material.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/20 03:46 PM
0

"I aM sMaRtER tHan THe DA"
/r/PussyPass04/06/20 04:45 PM
0

No, they carry it for chaos, not necessarily murder. I mean unless she had facebook messages saying she was going to "go kill some cops with a molotov cocktail" it'd be difficult to prove.
/r/PussyPass03/06/20 10:31 PM
0

No, they carry it for chaos, not necessarily murder. I mean unless she had facebook messages saying she was going to "go kill some cops with a molotov cocktail" it'd be difficult to prove.
/r/PussyPass03/06/20 10:31 PM
-1

Sure, and a lot of jurors would sympathise with some idea that it Wasn't premeditated (instead heat of the moment) She didn't intend to hurt anyone (just damage property) She's a woman This is an easy open and shut case where no one will feel sorry for convicting her for damage to police property.
/r/PussyPass03/06/20 06:55 PM
6

Right, it's a slam dunk case. DA is actually doing everyone a favor and prosecuting a case that the only possible way it won't stick is jury nullification. The long term sentence to this is she'll be an unemployable street prostitute.
/r/PussyPass03/06/20 06:08 PM
12

This was a smart move on their part. An attempted murder charge was unlikely to stick.
/r/PussyPass03/06/20 03:36 PM
0

Put down the thesaurus, borus.
/r/PussyPass02/06/20 05:32 AM
0

What was?
/r/PussyPass02/06/20 04:21 AM
2

So don't. That's what I'm saying. You're just in the transition phase. When you smack a bitch when necessary you're on the other side and you won't care anymore. You just care too much right now.
/r/PussyPass02/06/20 04:20 AM
1

I feel like my time here is done. The children want to be blackpill mgtows, so be it. I really reached my limit with the thread about the imaginary beta pill for women. The users in PPD right now are so stupid they can't understand a basic thought experiment. And the mods get up your ass about stupid bullshit. It hasn't even stagnated, it's just literally annoying to read. Even a basic thought experiment is impossible for these nutards to understand. "Oh that would be drugging someone!" It wasn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:18 AM
2

I'm not sure how you got that from that. I have 3 kids. But if she decides she wants to go explore herself or wants an egalitarian relationship she can go find someone else to raise them.
/r/PussyPass02/06/20 04:12 AM
-1

There you go acting like a fag
/r/PussyPass02/06/20 04:11 AM
-3

I was drawing a parallel you autistic retard.
/r/PussyPass01/06/20 08:47 PM
14

Why do you think "silence is racism" is a thing? The end game is you just ignore women who don't bring value to your life and cultivate a circle of women who value you and by extension provide value to you. What you learn is women talk a strong game but at the end of the day they want and need attention from both masculine men and men to assist in raising children. Make it clear your participation is voluntary and be willing to defend your boundaries. Don't forget you're mentally and physically …
/r/PussyPass01/06/20 07:58 PM
2

Just far too high to take this place seriously anymore. Too many tards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:34 PM
2

You honestly think your family or friends would accept your interpretation of "So I got drugged last night at the bar...." simply being encouraged to drink? Stop lyin
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:34 PM
6

So now that this place has a 60% incel overlap, I think we can all agree this debate isn't moving anywhere good. I'll miss a couple of you. Even still, I maintain the true poison are uber tier black pill feminist shitposters. They make autists look like savants in comparison. All of the black and white thinking, none of the logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:58 AM
2

I only had a major incident once and the teacher was from the middle east and had an axe to grind because she had experienced whatever and now it was time to flip the script. Didn't really make much of a difference. All in all, most teachers keep their head down and don't want to be divisive. Ratemyprof and all that factor into how a lot of teachers teach. Getting a super hardass prof is way worse than one who hates men. The one who hates men will dock you from a b\a to a b- or whatever but a ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:34 AM
4

How is this even a question. If you've ever known a woman even in the top 5-10% they don't have to do jack shit. The world literally comes to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 12:47 AM
1

Did you read the OP? There's no "drugging" involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 12:33 AM
1

Sounds like fun, Ima do it. Got any links, I'd like to see onset time etc. Throw in some acid\x and we got a parrty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 09:36 PM
2

Right, that's what I was trying to tell you. I'm not even thinking about the implications of the drug. I think you should start a thread on it. It'd be an interesting discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 09:16 PM
0

It could probably be somewhat approximated by this in combination with malicious T therapy\estrogen replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 09:10 PM
2

Why are you saying this to me? I'd roll you back 50 years if it were up to me. I'm only discussing what's sitting on my plate. I would think that this would make a great open ended discussion on the implications of this to the world at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 09:00 PM
2

Settling is a thing for 50-80% of women shrug
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:51 PM
3

You should probably check your baggage at the door before replying to posts like this. Most men would not become hostile towards women who just want to boost their libido. It would save a lot of marriages. Nearly all of them IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:51 PM
1

Right, that's the OP. We agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:50 PM
5

They both accomplish the same end. Cialis absolutely lowers inhibitions and increases arousal. What the hell do you think your brain does when you become 9-10/10 aroused? You think guys are sitting there with rock hard dicks and perfectly calm?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:48 PM
0

Do you think there are ethical considerations outside of safety and efficacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:47 PM
1

Would men (even with propaganda) want to take a drug that does that. It seems like a drug that would permanently impede someone's judgement. Yes, I take cialis recreationally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:43 PM
1

Who is forcing her to take it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:42 PM
0

Chicken egg. If it's not yet approved by the FDA, should it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:41 PM
-3

Where do you get this idea that women are being "drugged" from the post? Can you quote from the OP where women are "drugged?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:28 PM
4

Why would it be unethical?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:19 PM
2

Did you even read the post? I'm going to go with no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:18 PM
0

Did you even read the post? I'm going to go with no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:18 PM
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That drug would be one of the most profitable in the world. It would basically be viagra for women in marriages with beta males. It's not unethical at all. Is it unethical to give men erections that wouldn't otherwise be hard? I take cialis recreationally. I'll be a diamonds pound machine for however long I want or need to, I'll be in rage fuck mode. Is that unethical that I might instead be just lukewarm and not that into it otherwise? I struggle to see how this is any different than viagra or …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:11 PM
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Right, well that comes from the realization of how women make these selections. More or less women select sex partners strictly based on arousal, and then they select against certain traits they find arousing, but poor for stability. A lot of it comes from that. A lot of that comes from how women treat men in LTRs and how they treat men they STR. E.g. telling their husband they don't like giving blowjobs and then finding out they had anal sex in a bar bathroom with her ex etc. Then you get "yadd…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 06:02 AM
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Well yeah, it is a bad deal for most men. We just have to coach them through their ego. Most men have done the nAWALT thing and think they have their unicorn. Once she shows her mane, he'll either double down that he "chose wrong" or see the light. What he chooses to do after that is up to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 05:51 AM
1

Do you understand that AF\BB means STR\LTR mate?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 05:39 AM
1

Chicken egg as far as I'm concerned. In 10-20 years white guys and asians will be shooting each other for macho points.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 05:13 AM
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Right, we're just speculating. Science will never comment on causation, just publish the numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 04:11 AM
1

Kind of unnecessary when the statistics are published.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 04:05 AM
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What do you think is already happening in the black community that is causing single motherhood that we will start seeing more of in everyone? Open hypergamy\Rejecting male provisioning as the basis of pairing and openly signalling raw masculinity as the basis of mate selection, resulting in the collapse of the beta male value system and eventually the family unit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 03:46 AM
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Read again, I said they're trending towards 70%. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Nonmarital_Birth_Rates_in_the_United_States%2C_1940-2014.png/500px-Nonmarital_Birth_Rates_in_the_United_States%2C_1940-2014.png My position is simply that black women are leading the pack and the resting rate when you remove social constraints will likely be somewhere around 70% give or take 5-10% in the future. Black women have a 20 year head start.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 03:22 AM
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If given the financial ability and freedom from stigma from both sides would more women choose to be a mom and wife then today? Probably. Oh they're making the decision to be mothers, just not wives. All races are trending towards 70% single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 02:13 AM
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There's considerable evidence for it. In the female happiness paradox, studies on arranged marriage, n-count studies, anecdotal etc. I think it's paradoxical, but true. I think we've enabled a widespread tyranny of the minority where a few very strong willed women have decided to usher in an era where women pretend to be men. I think both women and men are happier the closer they are to their gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:23 PM
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I would like to ask how women in the middle should act. After putting in my 10k hours, they should pick a very masculine man with a good family and strong work ethic to marry/have children with and lose their virginity to him. There is a larger likelihood they will be happier in this arrangement than the "freedom" we've convinced women they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:56 PM
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No. But there is no reason why it wasn't possible that it couldn't have turned out awful. Literally any bit of hesitation or beta faggotry on his part could have turned that into legal sexual assault. Which is preposterous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:45 PM
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The difference is that you can't possibly rape someone on accident. There's too many steps to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:43 PM
1

The entire reason why it was hot is because he didn't ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:37 PM
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The "ask" would completely ruin that video. At this point I'm starting to be convinced that an arranged marriage is more romantic than western dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:34 PM
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What's their to debate, it's observable reality. You're just at the doorstep of the n-count debate. Which is where women claim it doesn't matter and find all sorts of ways to avoid the takeaway here... Which is that women can have men above their attractiveness threshold for STRs but not for LTRs, which means women as a rule settle for their husbands. The logic you want to apply is faulty. It's why insurance companies don't care how good of a person you are if you get one DUI. They already know …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:27 PM
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Because the world needs thicker skin, not more broad laws IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:24 PM
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Gross, shouldn't be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:18 PM
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I'm talking about laws that are written like dogshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:15 PM
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IRL dude would be shamed, she would be consoled. Law doesn't need to be written in a way which facilitates some women to file assault charges. The idea that we've codified such a thing to be considered sexual assault should she decide to file charges, is absurd. Obviously there are limits here, but a spontaneous kiss shouldn't be. This is exactly the horseshit you get with kids getting charged with possession of childporn because they took photos of themselves, or "rape" charges for young\old re…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:09 PM
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Disclaimer: this is a super generalization and the analysis only works on a mass population level. There are many many anecdotes that buck the general trend. tldr you claim that no widely observed generalizations can be made and then observe downward pressure in the STR market. I've literally been saying this for years and it's foundation sexual economics in AF\BB. This is literally the reason why you don't want to be in an LTR right now. Because your wife has been ran through by a bunch of guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:01 PM
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Right, that's exactly what we're debating. Everyone who is red says "so what" and people who live in imaginary land are opening up their legal textbooks in an effort for normal people to care, which we don't. Why it "matters" is the law and nutjob left opinions on the matter aren't congruent with reality. Which is that sex is spontaneous and isn't orderly. And laws that attempt to codify it are overly broad and formal. This is just a good way to see and highlight how absurd it all is. An absolut…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 09:57 PM
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I fuck less women than I thought I would. But wouldn't have it any other way. Would not be in a mutually open relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 09:53 PM
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It's only sexual assault if she doesn't like you or decides she didn't want it after all Him : It doesn't matter if she doesn't complain. If she does, it's sexual assault. what does it matter if ANYTHING is assault if the "Victim" doesn't prosecute or complain? You : It isn't sexual assault if she doesn't complain. Both of you : It isn't sexual assault if she doesn't complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 09:46 PM
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sol·ip·sism /ˈsäləpˌsizəm/ noun the view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 09:43 PM
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All races are trending to 70%.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 09:25 PM
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Bury_your_head_in_the_sand.jpg/1200px-Bury_your_head_in_the_sand.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 09:24 PM
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Here's a crazy idea. Let's just imagine she didn't like it. And then lets imagine it's just as we witness. How crazy of a thing this is to talk about. So complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 09:19 PM
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Huh? What data is necessary here. The debate is how ridiculous the concept of "consent" is when it comes to spontaneous sexuality. Obviously there is some limit, but it's not binary like these Twitter tards think. That's the ultimate point being debates here, whether or not consent is\should be binary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 09:17 PM
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Doesn't really change the point at all. If he was completely random and the same outcome arrived, same debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:56 PM
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You're both saying the same thing from different sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:55 PM
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lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:55 PM
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Fuckin' wow dude, that was beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:55 PM
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If only.
/r/PussyPass26/05/20 06:17 PM
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Nice. What do they considered genetic traits disposed to infidelity?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:26 PM
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This pretty much summarizes my grievance with people who think they're going to use "science" to get a world view. Given a plainly observable thing that could be commented on, most won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:24 PM
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Culture follows natural. e.g. Doctors, lawyers and business owners used to hold a lot more masculine of an image, but now that these positions are being taken by less masculine men, they're considered less masculine. Almost all of the traits women select for in short term partners are physically associated (or involve physicality in some way, e.g. dominance). e.g. What is smoking associated with? Masculine men. If overnight smoking was only done by incels it would be seen are repulsive and unmas…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 05:33 PM
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Well it's because we've normalized casual sex and also disguised it as serial monogamy. Or "dating."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 05:32 PM
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It's more the fact that a normal dating life is considered being a slut by many guys. I saw I guy say 10 partners at 30 was too high. If you start having sex at 18 ; 10 partners at 30 averages out to less than 1 a year. Well good luck on your 10+ partner wife, I'm sure it'll go well just like it has for all the guys that find out their wives had active previous sex lives to them. I'm sure this pattern of men finding this stuff out when their marriages exploding is all just coincidental. And all …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 05:29 PM
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It's hyperbole. Most of those women who "go to school and come home and watch netflix" have personal lives, to which you may or may not be privy. The vast majority of men at MRP had wives who they believed were your "number 2" and found out over time, they were CC riders. Even if we accept your view at face value, good luck reconciling that with an entire generation of women fighting for "the right" to be socially accepted sluts. Because of 1-4, ALL women are LIKE that. Good luck on your nAWALT …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 05:08 PM
1

?? What's the benefit of being inhibited?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:06 AM
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Why would I care? All we're saying is women enforce these norms. Women aren't en masse on tinder looking for non-masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 12:01 AM
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Then why don't you address me and OP as we're addressing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 12:00 AM
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We aren't talking about "most people." We're talking about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:54 PM
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So you think most women are very tolerant to men being emotional?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:51 PM
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Holy cow, you mean to tell me you're not masculine and you're in a LTR as a bux? Color me shocked!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:49 PM
1

Drop them, you'll be happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:46 PM
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If you change your bazaar "not all" arguments and address "most women" is this reply necessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:43 PM
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What are you here for as a woman? Until you can answer that question all you're here for is sophistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:42 PM
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Every convert says the same thing. I say it all the time... now it's your turn. TRP ______ __ _____ Preach!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:37 PM
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So you just want to get into a semantic argument. That's why I asked, because I'm not going to get into a semantic argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:35 PM
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Yeah, OP asked who polices gender more. I gave you a clear cut, observable reality, which you're trying to handwave. WOMEN DON'T WANT TO FUCK MEN WHO DON'T CONFORM TO GENDER ROLES You are creating an argument that is trying to excise this out while giving the illusion of answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:34 PM
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Right, because I asked your motives for this post and why you're here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:31 PM
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Don't talk about our patron saint that way cockboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:31 PM
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Show me a woman with a million beta orbiters and no attractive men that will fuck her and I'll show you a mental breakdown on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:29 PM
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Get reading https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C48&q=%22short+term%22+%22long+term%22+mating&btnG= See you in a couple years
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:26 PM
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What percentage of men do you think actually improved themselves and experienced sexual abundance or even a better dating life after finding TRP? Abundance, few. Abundance mentality, significant percentage. Improved their lives drastically, most. Success, absolutely. It's out there, guys know it, it's reached into the mainstream. Just through telephone and all that. Turns out the new generation of men are too fragile for it to continue though, which is why MGTOW and blackpill are on the rise. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:24 PM
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It's a strawman, you're finding ways to give women outs for policing to prop up your numbers. Reality? Women don't want to fuck men who don't conform to gender roles, so women are the biggest policers of gender roles. If women started fucking feminine betamales en masse, over night every guy would put down their protein shakes and start chugging soy lattes. Your argument is weak, reality crushes all of this sophistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:21 PM
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Do you think women in the Middle Ages were on average happy with their low life expectancy, hard living and dangerous childbirths? Ok lady
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:20 PM
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I have no idea what the real numbers are, but I will address the actual question. There is nowhere else where men get answers to what they're doing wrong, that actually work out. At other subreddits, they'll tell men to improve, but the men coming for help still don't know how they get from point A to point B. Because those answers are not easy ones. They're answers that most men and most women don't want to confront. We dress ourselves in a veneer of propriety, and no one wants to admit that de…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:18 PM
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Ok, well good luck on your circlejerk fest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:57 PM
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Thousands of N in the studies that I've referenced. But not going to waste my time on butthurt women or autists treating this as an academic exercise. Do you have a point to all this or are you just gonna sit in the spot between soft and hard science and pretend you're doing anything at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:45 PM
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Again, what exactly is the point of this post and your arguments here? What I gather is you're a woman who is bothered by the fact that men don't like women who settle later in life, that we've given it a name. Be transparent, because right now you're just wasting time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:38 PM
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What exactly are you trying to convince yourself of?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:31 PM
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Ehh she's not yours and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:17 PM
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This is easy to understand from a math perspective. 99% of women will treat unmasculine men as unfuckable friends who maybe someday will find someone else. So you could say it's easily more women. Is that "policing?" Sure, not actively though. Maybe 20-30% of men will make an attempt to take a non-masculine man and let him know he's behaving like a moron. That's active. Does the math matter? No. Basically unmasculine men get the message from all sides, they just choose to ignore it and cling to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:16 PM
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Sure, some women will police women's behavior (re: FDS and 'pickmeshias'), but they're not policing it from the lenses of gneder, ie, in the context their behaivor making them more or less woman-like. Strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:12 PM
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That doesn't really mean anything. Models are chosen to be distinct not necessarily traditional attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:53 PM
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You're independently realizing that which strategy a male chooses ends up painting him. AF = STR oriented male\Male with STR advantageous traits. e.g. jawline, height, strength, facial symmetry BB = LTR oriented, comfort traits (many of these are negatively correlated to female arousal) Men with strong jawlines and other AF traits who choose to be LTR oriented are female unicorns, we call them "naturals." Another way to call them is "blue pill alpha male." A Chad is a red pill alpha male. So it …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:46 PM
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Yes, this is a textbook example. Calling it an epiphany is so literal I'd dare to say this was written by a man. Women don't care and frequently aren't even able to analyze their progress through time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:41 PM
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Agree. Sans some really really unattractive or very attractive women. In which it chances to can\can and want\want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:40 PM
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It works as a great cautionary tale to help dudes swallow the pill and realize the work they need to put in to pull tail, but that's it. Coast mode
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:08 PM
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Coast mode
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:54 PM
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That's fine, the problem is Women have sex with who they can then Women marry who they can. This is bad for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:29 PM
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Right, and that's where those first world nations balanced out. They still had very high exit barriers and other barriers that made most women embrace part time working lifestyles with fulltime households. The only debate we're having is which should be your primary focus. And I think you should see how laughable the idea would be that your primary focus should be "STEM" and secondary would be your child.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:27 PM
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lol at meme face dude in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:06 PM
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If you placed me there now I'd probably kill myself. But I also know that my maternal instincts are HUGE and I turn into a puddle when I see a baby or animal or anyone sad/vulnerable/hurting and I just wanna drop everything and hold them and take care of them. Doubtful. Chances are you'd be mad, accept it and then eventually eschew your old lifestyle, just like mine. Which is why I mention exit barriers. The sad part is you're here essentially excusing something that not too long ago was accepte…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:03 PM
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Looking at reality we’ve all been duped, pill content creators spend all day creating hateful rhetoric towards the opposite sex but mostly keep their personal lives anonymous. I haven't attempted to monetize even one cent posting my content. We remain mostly anonymous so we don't have our jobs called by nutjob feminists randomly, obviously. BUT everyday there are heterosexual couples thriving despite the current events. I'm not exactly sure what you're dog whistling here. Is your grievance that …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 04:45 PM
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But they dont. And both anecdotal evidence and data goes against this claim. Oh they do, just not in the study snapshot you used. That's what is at issue here. Which measure you find more compelling. The one where you ask women about their divorce, or their overall happiness level. That's why it's paradoxical. I don't think most women actually know what they want, just what they think they want. I think this is a harder topic for you because I think you're atypical. You have essentially a male d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 04:11 PM
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Universally? Probably the top 1-2%. Most women would agree men in the top 5% are attractive but maybe not their type. Men in the top 20% (but not 5%) are "average." Still husband material. Men in the top 50% (but not 20% are "below average" Betabux bread and butter Men below the 50% mark are invisible and or "fugly." Incel\MGTOW\Blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 03:57 PM
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But you started talking about how the female happiness paradox is about women’s happiness relative to men’s. And women’s happiness relative to men’s is higher post divorce. Sure, in that snapshot. But in aggregate, men are still happier than women. It's been a while, Id don't remember if women were happier than men in the high barrier countries or just that they didn't decline in relative happiness. That’s fine and that’s your opinion but what we’ve been discussing is you saying that there are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 03:42 PM
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I was socially outgoing but personally inhibited before. But I'm completely uninhibited now. If yes, how did you manage it and what were the results? It's a natural outcome from realizing most of the reasons you remained inhibited were because you thought it would make you happier for whatever reason(s). Inhibition is a prison you build for yourself. Women don't respect it, and it's not enjoyable. Put the mask on when you're around groups of high betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 03:34 PM
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Okay so if we’re only looking at female happiness relative to male’s, how is that proof that spouses that wanted to get divorced but couldn’t are both happier than they would have been if they had gotten divorced? If we also take the studies that say that women are happier post divorce than men, then women’s relative happiness to men’s would increase if they got divorced. The man’s happiness would be higher if he stays married. So it’s men that bump up the happiness of those couples that stay to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 03:18 PM
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It depends on what type of man you're talking about. Blue pill men can fall "in love" before even touching her. Some red pill men won't fall in love at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 03:07 PM
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You have to control for the "definition" of happiness. Contentedness is what Europeans use in that context. The female happiness paradox interests itself only in relative happiness (to men). This controls for "overall happiness." So even if we say that these countries are happier, women would be happier than men (and thus happier) otherwise. Put another way, I'm fairly certain these countries could meet both definitions of happiness and either improve a woman's relative happiness or make them ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 02:57 PM
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What other conclusion can you come to if divorce rates go up and happiness decreases, and countries that maintain high exit barriers have lower divorces and happier women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 02:48 PM
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There is a studied linear correlation between strength and female arousal. Face is stronger but it's multivariat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 02:43 PM
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So you acknowledge then that in some countries there is a high degree of information asymmetry, unlike a place like Brazil for instance?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 02:39 PM
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It is an area of ongoing study. e.g. Cads vs dads. Related : Norwegian job paradox. Science never really speculates, but it seems pretty clear that men and women are happier when they conform to their gender roles. It seems empowering women to make masculine choices or abandon their feminine duties isn't making them happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 02:38 PM
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I don't see how the first points follow the rest of your reply. I'm pointing out these men aren't actually angry at Chad's.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 04:55 AM
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Female happiness paradox
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 01:31 AM
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You missed the actual point. This isn't a thing that happens in Brazil...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 01:05 AM
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And that makes them mad because....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 12:39 AM
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Most men are angry at the conditioning and inaccurate information they were given from women and unsuccessful men in their lives. In cultures where women aren't put on a pedestal and are seen as basically just human fleshlights men don't overinvest in comfort traits and lash out at Chads\Stacies. There's no "redpill" in Brazil because it's all out on display.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 11:24 PM
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I didn't notice that, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 10:44 PM
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Yeah but how is that debating his OP? He's saying it shouldn't be smooth and here you are saying "hey OP, we got it nice and painless now, just hit the eject button!" He could quote you as an example of how things have gone wrong in his OP and it would change nothing IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 10:37 PM
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He does acknowledge it in his reply. We're both saying there shouldn't be an easy button.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 10:26 PM
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In America. There are at fault, high exit barrier first world countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 10:23 PM
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You're proving OPs point. They shouldn't be smooth divorces. In countries with high exit barriers, many of those divorces end up being families that stay together and are actually happier having done so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 10:18 PM
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Only for the fully unplugged. So not for incels or most MGTOWs. Also just looking at this dude is enough to know you shouldn't take him seriously. Finally, I really don't think the vast majority of guys even understand that hookers have their own bullshit. Armed robberies, cash and dash, STDs, mechanical sessions, catfishing, 20 year old pictures etc etc etc. TRP is not wrong, period. There is no way to get out of the work. You have to work on a funnel\bitch management. There's no way out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 10:07 PM
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So, I read an article that performed a small study on the desire for futuristic sex robots. They found that men were excited by the prospect where women were not really as excited by it. As far as I understand, cat lady women are sexually deactivated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:00 PM
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NEVER SAY NEVER
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:22 AM
0

So basically all the guys that land at TRP. This is just the standard high beta program. It does nothing, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:44 AM
0

What year is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:40 AM
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but during that time the BP part of me resented that women didn’t appreciate the “kinder, gentler” version of myself It's still fuel brother. When you start feeling soft and you think back and go oh yeah, that was fuckin' awful...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 02:40 AM
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tldr; When a woman doesn't act with your long term interests in mind, she's a plate. She's a plate. Not that complex. She knows what it means to go out for coffee with another dude, you know what it means, it's only how you respond to it that matters. Liberal men get sucked into that stupid game, guys that know what's up know that when the game starts that the long term relationship is over. Also to be clear I'm also calling out the men at MRP that play this game with their wives.
/r/TheRedPill18/05/20 06:18 PM
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How it plays out IRL : 20% of women stick with him and don't even flinch, generally strong families with low-n. 80% of women start consciously or subconsciously leaving her door open have an affair or many, blame it on him, turn remaining friends against him and start over with little to no worries as she actually believes it is his fault. Given a long enough time frame the answer is 95-99% of women. HOWEVER You've neglected the strongest variable, masculinity. Women will stay with men who have …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 06:04 PM
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Right, you're understanding my point but you're still not getting it. Why would you want to be the guy she selects for the very traits she finds unarousing in a man? She finds those negative traits sexually arousing. Beta males are "good on paper." They're selected for the reasons that are practical but unattractive. E.g. men with nurturing disposition are good future "dads" but that's something selected against for STRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:52 PM
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Have had the GTR and attractive wife. The wrong women care about the GTR, guys like the GTR, also want to bang your wife. What is more covetted than both of these in my experience is an attractive (not necessarily hot), feminine wife with a pleasing disposition. The first wife you are "proud to have." The second simply makes you proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:49 PM
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I understand that. The main takeaway is you have to look at short term traits first. Those are the true arousal traits. And guess what, a lot of long term selection traits are negatively correlated to STR selection. That's the point I'm making. You really want to be the guy she chooses to stay with because you're stable even though the traits she's selecting on are unarousing to her? My post was assembled from a meta study on both.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:44 PM
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Thats something that flies in the face of both research and what women say they want. No, it doesn't. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7ptnb5/protectors_vs_providers_afbb_killing_the_blue/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:38 PM
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I've done and do just fine. We've been in the top 5% for household before. Still building a sandcastle in a beach with turds everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:28 PM
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Not sure how sex drives relate here. So you think a woman's sex drive doesn't have an evolutionary basis? Sex is a want. It’s not a need. What's your point? Men "want" it 12 times more than women. Wanting something 12 times more than women and it being a need are analogous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:25 PM
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Red pill tactics work great for short term mating when you as a man desire women high in cluster B personality traits and neuroticism. This is true for both cluster-b and normal women. That is also studied. It generally doesn't work outside of that. Unfortunately, not true. I think the 'ideal' for women is a man with both alpha and beta traits. Male projection. Women settle for long term men, and long term traits are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:23 PM
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I'm not talking about the SMP. I'm talking about our country and its culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 08:15 AM
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Of course, because settling is innate to female dating in a post casual sex world for women in the bottom 80% of SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:51 AM
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Yeah my point is we need about 50 years of ever increasing right wing leaders to fix this place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:46 AM
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One thing that all these men have in common is the women who pull this shit on them believe they won't do jack shit about it. When's the last time you heard Tyrone getting locked up on bogus charges?
/r/PussyPass18/05/20 07:25 AM
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I will never look at liberals the same after this fiasco. We have really fucked up this country the last couple decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:21 AM
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Oh jesus, I thought you were into like... thick girls. Fuck man... what happened to you while you were a kid that got you into this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:04 AM
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That's why I'm saying you're wrong. You've mistaken the two. Also, ASPD is a socio\psychopath. ASPD is the modern diagnosis for it. The two terms socio and psychopath are old terms that are mostly no longer used in clinical practice. They're all in the "cluster-b" so they share overlap. But ASPD is considered much more severe. NPD also has a severe classification that is closer to ASPD called "malignant narcissism." Going through TRP might also take some "low functioning" NPDs and make them "hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 06:58 AM
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Who cares about fairness?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 06:55 AM
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As normal or barely different. I wasn't even close and I'm fuckin' awful. Gotta remember they setup all this psych stuff so just being a shitty person doesn't give you a diagnosis. Part of the reason there's no "sex addict" classification, because half the Karens divorcing their button up beta husbands would probably be diagnosed. One of the primary reasons used to classify whether someone is disordered is whether it negatively impacts their life goals. If your life goal is to branch swing on yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 06:53 AM
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They may think they want someone who is a broken mess, especially since it then re-confirms their ideas about who TRP thinks women are. That they have sex drives that are evolutionary in nature? makes men think all they want is pussy at any cost so they think they’re winning. It’s an empty pursuit. Depends who you ask. Lowering and focusing my expectations has been life changing. I can do away with romance, I can't with pussy, so it's a more stable strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 06:18 AM
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Probably because most guys have gotten let down enough to realize it makes more sense to shift their priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 06:16 AM
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I don't really bother with the kinds of people who need those links. I learned that lesson writing my content over a year or so. A lot of my content is written at those people and it was enough to get my head out of my own ass, and it's up to them to make that journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:46 AM
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Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:45 AM
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https://external-preview.redd.it/ENc86v9cGKwxBpiNSFlE4t7yNu65qjEAmz-V2q5aVD0.png?auto=webp&s=d24ee076763c6ef6f7d07225edaaa8266c0d4433
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:06 PM
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Right, I'm just replying to autistic weirdos who can't understand this basic semantic structure that everyone else gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:04 PM
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Even if that was true, it doesn't matter. It gets men what they want by working on the product (the male). Men at TRP don't want what you're selling unless you're "jaded" or "compromised." That's not true either though. Female short term preferences are studied, TRP had it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:02 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/gl2twv/is_there_any_science_in_the_solipsism_argument/fqvl9og/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:00 PM
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MGTOW = healthy 20 year olds afraid to leave the house right now
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 03:47 AM
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Yeah but not pretending you don't want\need sex. If a man has his sex life under control, being "MGTOW" is entirely superfluous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 03:29 AM
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TRP is similar to PUA but focuses more on understanding women in totality, PUA can be thought of as a great add on or entry to TRP. Think of TRP as improving the product and PUA as marketing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 03:25 AM
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Both. People that believe the red pill is wrong or false produce satire\criticize the red pill. But it's also a real belief system. Here's a good way to recognize the different belief systems and understand it. At TRP we have saying "AWALT." That is, ALL women are like that. Basically this means that all women have an evolutionary drive that men have no control over, ultimately, and from that a lot of concepts are born. Someone at BP would argue that all women are different. This is true in a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 03:23 AM
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It wouldn't be fair for me to answer that question since I'm an endorsed poster at TRP. But our view of BP is that its naive men and entitled women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:56 AM
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TRP is male sexual strategy for short term relationships that don't involve subversion to female wants\needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:46 AM
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A bit, but there's too much female apologetics to take it seriously as a science. A lot of blindingly obvious shit that they are tripping over themselves to excuse, this would be one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:34 AM
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I mean what better example can you use other than excusing criminality? Oh you killed your kids because being a mom is hard? Hmmm... let's call that postpartum depression. You know what they call that when you're a man? Murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:27 AM
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The easiest way to quantify WAW is jail terms for crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:03 AM
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Because that is mostly a PUA concept. TRP is enjoy the decline and all that. TRP is listed as straight up amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 01:55 AM
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I'm not going to bother arguing with someone who has a victimhood complex other than pointing it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 01:41 AM
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PUA is not red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 01:39 AM
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TheRedPill insist there is a clear definition of what constitutes an attractive man's behavior, or "alpha behavior". They believe there is a series of attitudes and personal traits that make a man universally desired by everyone at the same time. Yes, it's studied but there's still subjectivity. You can assemble a man that the most number of women find attractive but not one all prefer. We tell men how to be the man the most number of women will find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 11:32 PM
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Yes, I get where you're coming from, but it doesn't apply in the same way for me. If it was my wife/gf going out with her ex for a coffee, she's going to cheat eventually if she wants to based on whether or not she's actively trying. If I deny her an express meeting with him and she wanted things to happen, she'd meet him in secret. Not really much of a point in trying to corral a wild horse back into a pen. If it wants to leave, it will. If this is your wife, you've chosen wrong. Not because sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 11:21 PM
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You're being pretty daft here. I'm not commenting about you specifically. I'm just explaining to you why many people see these things are disrespectful, because it can often lead to these "oops" events. And so the very act itself becomes an act of disrespect. Because even if you specifically wouldn't, other people could or would, and so refraining from what is likely not necessary is seen as the more respectful move. That even though you could go out for coffee with an ex, and you wouldn't do an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 11:05 PM
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That's the liberal tell. I assume you also think an ex-wife\girlfriend is okay to "go out for coffee" with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:58 PM
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Right, that's my point. The fact that she allowed someone she was attracted to come to her house, while her partner was away and get drunk early into the morning was disrespectful to her boyfriend. Again, this is literally the setup to "oops." Nothing to do with you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:45 PM
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From a biological standpoint, yes. But it is greatly exacerbated by men and society enabling women with both the "wonder are wonderful" effect and men just giving women a pass to try to get it in. So solipsism as a concept is more related to this whole "package" that is not anywhere near the same as men. When men try to be solipsistic, if it doesn't stand up to reality no one is going to support that. When a women starts thinking just about herself and distorting reality, people will support tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:35 PM
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You are pretty clueless not to see what was happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:31 PM
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"Becky, I'm not interested in being exclusive." Congratulations, you're now "poly."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:39 PM
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About 5% of the population is seriously mentally ill, so they're somewhere in that. Not enough to matter. School shootings, mass shootings etc aren't new. In a perfect world I think the number of shootings would be roughly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:01 PM
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It's basically just a bad idea in general to engage with blackpill\incel\fds. Let them spend time in their padded room.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:53 PM
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Oh yeah, your issue with blackpill\FDS\incel communities is they're all communities with people who have complexes. They're fatalistic, no use in trying to get them to not be autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:52 PM
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Doesn't matter. SMV is all about access and appearance. If it becomes even remotely apparent that a woman sleeps around she'll have way more willing than she can handle or would want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:50 PM
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We don't understand your argument because TRP and this forum already agrees with you. They're called naturals\blue pill alpha males. Alpha males have a set of traits, they can choose to use them suboptimally. You can be given a million dollars and choose to donate it all to charity instead of invest\save it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:45 PM
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They'll be hit by divorce but won't have a problem meeting other women their age or that's when they'll start reading the red pill. Right, what is your point? Some of those guys got divorced two or three times before they found TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:39 PM
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Red pill male means a man who understands female strategy who practices short term oriented strategy without being subverted by the female imperative by focusing on STR\alpha attributes and strategy. So you have no nuance here. No one cares if dudes fuck fat chicks, that's preference. Getting married? K-fed red pilled marriage to that extent. Rappers fucking strippers? That's STR oriented. We don't consider men being submissive red pilled. At all. It's not masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:38 PM
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You aren't explaining yourself at all. We don't discuss gays at all, not important. What do you mean "being married?" What do you mean chubby chasers? I don't understand what your point is, these are just random things you're mentioning. You're asking how does Chad get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:21 PM
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There is no stable way to raise children in a mutually open relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:19 PM
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None of this matters. Worrying about whether or not prostitution is legal is pointless. If you can't figure out how to send a message to a pro and get her to come to your hotel room without subjecting yourself to legal risk maybe you deserve to be a virgin. I can sympathise with the idea that average and normal men not getting laid means something is wrong. I can't sympathise with the idea that complete retards need sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:17 PM
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Alternatives What has changed in the last 10 years? Basically nothing except tinder\OLD. Before she had to choose between the guys in her circle and whatever was on the party circuit and being alone. Now the party circuit in the surrounding 50 miles comes to her. So rather than settling with a mediocre boyfriend and cheating on him occasionally, she can just be a willing plate for her ideal STR partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:14 PM
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Give us your random organic scenario that doesn't "fit in the box" then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:12 PM
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Glad you got the confirmation you're looking for. But if you're actually looking to understand the whole thing more, we do know this. We call these guys naturals. They're the guys that get hit the hardest with divorces usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:11 PM
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I mean she disrespected her boyfriend by hanging out with someone she was attracted to and getting drunk at 1 in the morning with them. This is literally the setup to "tehehe I don't know how this happened." She was more interested in having a good time and flirting with the idea of you making a move than respecting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:08 PM
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After 5 it makes no difference. It barely makes a difference after 1. But by five, most women are fairly acclimated\westernized.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 03:13 AM
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I'm making the argument that only individuals have rights, not governments Why are you making stupid semantic arguments like this rather than having an actual conversation? If you don't give a government the right to have authority it can't govern. It's the literal basis of governance. And with that, a requirement to exercise authority with the use of force, to pass laws etc. With even those most minimal government rights, it means that the individual is bound by laws. And those laws are passed …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 11:29 PM
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Are you ultimately just making an argument for direct democracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:01 PM
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Whoa whoa whoa buddy... adjudicate international disputes? Sounds like suddenly you want there to be sovereignty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:51 PM
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So you're not a man... interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:14 PM
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Not literally, but figuratively yes. You can use fear, power and brutality to trigger it at a primal level, but not in a "I feel sexy" type of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:13 PM
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Ok great, so tell me how you solve the Palestine issue with your brilliant unipolar world without impeding on freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:05 PM
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Nation-states can exist. They just can't violate the right to individual liberty. Your argument is incoherent. Sovereignty is literally the right to exercise absolute authority over the individual. Globalism is inexorable and the countries that realize this first will be the determining powers of the remainder of the 21st century. Trade, sure. Good luck recognizing one government. Just as a thought experiment, type out your one government world and see how far you get before you realize how laug…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:15 PM
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You're making an argument about freedom when instead your beef is with sovereignty. You're arguing as if nation states can't, don't or shouldn't exist. And you will literally, never, in a million years see that world. So no matter what argument you can come up with, it's pointless intellectual masterbation. Again, countries learned this lesson a long time ago. When people freely enter your country it does a lot of damage, in a very small amount of time. Sometimes countries forget this, get optim…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:09 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about because I literally just told you that countries don't need to "enforce culture." If a culture appropriates values from another, that's fine and it happens all the time. Again, having strict border controls is enough to ensure that a country's culture remains healthy and they aren't subjected to all the negative effects of emigration. Also, brain draining other countries is actually great for the economies of countries like the USA that (used to) attract …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:02 PM
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No one enforces strict migration "for culture." They do it because open borders does literally nothing positive for a country unless you need to increase your birthrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:53 PM
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Who is talking about cultural enforcement? No one. We're talking about emigration and the negative effects of it. People who emigrate don't "change" culture, they bring their own. The prevailing culture can at best respond to elements it agrees with and "appropriate" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:42 PM
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Who said you should care? I'm explaining to you why all people care when their country's culture changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:32 PM
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You have to delineate that to these morons. You're arguing like a liberal, and this concerns me. "Not all...."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:56 PM
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Liberals : What? I love crime and widespread poverty. This is great. Can't wait for UBI and the welfare state to save us all. The future if you look at the graphs is 70% of kids will be born to single mothers. Good luck with that society. I'm sure it will be functional.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:54 PM
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You know why daycare is so much more expensive? Because fewer kids are going into daycare because fewer are being born. Prices go up per kid because these companies still have to make some profit and need to pay their employees. This is absolutely false. Daycares don't\can't use economies of scale. They are regulated in the number of children they can watch per worker (and will always maximize this). Daycare costs are a function of three things. Affluent women will pay more for the prestige and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:51 PM
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Yeah, everyone loves people coming over to their culture and changing it, coming over with little to no skills, speaking different languages. "Racism." There's a reason why most countries have very high requirements to migrate into them. They've all learned the same lesson, regardless of who borders your country.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:48 PM
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Deserved it? What kind of bullshit is that? Worst thing that ever happened to the internet was letting normies like you on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:17 AM
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It's not typical, you're projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:06 AM
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Ok well, those are the facts. If you want to come up with a reason to cling to a different statistic, no one can stop you. There's a decent amount of discussion in the thread. I don't remember because it's a couple years old but it's from the US Government. It took a day or two to assemble, it wasn't thrown together. And frankly it was more optimistic than I thought it would be. So if you read that and think that's doom and gloom, you're pretty far off base.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:18 AM
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I wrote it, it's from USG stats for macro, it's all noted in the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:44 AM
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No, it's not. https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/7t8pb9/oc_first_marriage_positive_vs_negative_outcome/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:15 AM
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Status
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:53 AM
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She's retarded
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:51 AM
1

So.... average male.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:17 AM
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Male translation : Average male
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 09:03 PM
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Male translation : Virgin\Incel
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 09:03 PM
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The successful Gen Z kids who are slaying arent here; they're on instagram sliding into hot girls' DMs. Right, but that has nothing to do with your logic arc. Those same arguments are made for TRP. Truth of the matter is you take these men from these generations and they end up in different spots. social media skills is a new frontier of social skills that young guys now have to learn on top of being outgoing in real life. For what? There's an almost zero ROI. No woman isn't going to fuck you be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:17 PM
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I agree with your shift but I haven't seen black pill guys represented in the way you've touted it. They're all fatalistic. e.g. "I'm not 20%, therefor I'll LDAR\vidya\mgtow\incel" Where as TRP was "I must stop being a faggot and take charge of my life." I fail to see your point of how blackpills see this as "marketing?" As far as I see it, they see themselves as failed products. The blackpill is basically their explanation\rationalization for their own failure which comes down to this isn't fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:05 PM
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Never go full retard... man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:42 AM
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Either you hate women or you think they're inferior, your choice. I mean I still think women generally act like low value men, but this still isn't true. Women are different. The whole thing is backwards and stupid. Men and women are physically, mentally and emotionally different. Jobs are not uniformly staffed by genders for a reason, and whenever they control for FOMO, women and men sort themselves into typical positions. Female police officers suck, why would you want them on the frontline? B…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:11 AM
0

So who are these red pillers on the news? I looked briefly and they were either incels or white nationalists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:01 PM
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You have to not understand who they are for it to have appeal outside of pure physique. These girls are total retards. I mean, I get it, some of these girls are making money doing it... but they are literally no different than sugar babies, strippers, camgirls etc. Lots of these ethots do straight pay for play on the DL. They're sexworkers. So the Q is, what is your opinion on sex workers? They're retards who are selling their soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:25 PM
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The only arguments left against it are so retarded, why bother? Here... I'll forecast the next thread from some of our favorite feminists. MISINTERPRETATION OF A CONCEPT I'VE READ AT FACE VALUE MEANS MY STRAWMAN. Then proceed to either prove the concept, squable about the difference between breeds of apples or just abandon the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:06 PM
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Pretty sure you're conflating the red pill with white nationalists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:04 PM
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Yes, because men and women have different optimization goals. Men are looking for women who will remain loyal (e.g. not be hypergamous). There are no women who aren't hypergamous. Evolution applies to all women. This means that trying to find a unicorn, a woman who is not hypergamous, is a fool's errand. This does not mean that "all women cheat." It means that you can't find a woman who the rules don't apply to. The very reason why men come to TRP is innate to your experience as a woman and leav…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 02:44 PM
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Not only that, I've started to see some 40 year old (and even a close to 50 year old) women as fully fuckable. My best friend's friend, who is 48, is so fucking hot it's insane. You just now realized how wide your arousal window is? Man, that never changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 02:25 PM
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That is a huge difference, this isn't even a stats 101 problem you have here. This is high school math level confusion. I don't understand what your goal is to try and convince yourself that women aren't much more picky than men, but this is concerning to read and watch. Accept the truth and move on. Just because this obvious fact is true doesn't mean you have to accept the entire ball of wax, but you do need to accept this truth because it is reality. I don't know how you could possibly look at…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:56 AM
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What do you mean twice as picky vs 9%? 9% can be huge. e.g. the difference between unemployment right now and next year will be about 9%.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:59 AM
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even that didnt provide evidence for most of the definitions of 80/20 Does it satisfy the definition of women are much, much more picky than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:34 AM
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You're picking one of the worst points to dispute because it's been proven on multiple different websites and there's even been studies that have talked about the disparity. This is one of those concepts if you're not willing to accept the general basis of it and move on, then you're more interested in defending your cognitive dissonance than you are finding truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:36 PM
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My position on the matter is if you had control over your sex life, the need to "go your own way" would be moot. Having control over your sex literally IS your own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 08:00 PM
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Information transparency is just accelerating the threat response process. This is fine and actually good, but you have to make decisions that are grounded in actual reality. The main issue is that a lot of the ways to address these issues aren't realistic. e.g. Women who decide they "don't ever want to get married and have kids." True for only a very small number of women, ultimately, but many women are "choosing" this route. They are planning their lives around this decision, rather than looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:35 PM
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Added 5 for you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:32 PM
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Female happiness paradox is the biggest example of this in history, but you still argue for female rights and job access.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:23 PM
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Correlation doesn't equal causation, when causation is actually sufficient for risk mitigation. Need for scientific consensus for observable and obvious concepts. Being unable to understand the point and not debating it. Arguing with their ego. MEN DO IT TOO Examples "High N doesn't cause women to be less reliable partners." Who cares? Simply knowing that is enough for men to steer clear. "We don't know 100.00% for sure that female arousal is related to evolution... it hasn't been proven yet." W…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:23 PM
1

Because /r/BattleOfTheSexes has to take off before you can leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:17 PM
10

The best way to dry up a woman is to actually believe that she's special and let her pick up on it. Which isn't the same as making her feel special. Basically PUA 301, make her feel like she's different (even though she's approach #3 of the day or whatever). But if you legit did treat her as if she's special, she'd hate it. So your OP suggests she wants a man who thinks she's special, but this isn't correct. She actually wants to feel like she's literally special, as in better\different than oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:10 PM
2

I think your question is poorly worded. No I don't think it's possible in a spiritual sense. But I think it's literally possible. I think "attracted to" is a higher thresh hold than "capable of being aroused by." A woman who is a 3 or 4 who would otherwise be ugly is capable of putting on a good enough show that she takes the place of a 5 for the night. In this case she's "not attractive" and he's "not attracted to her" but she may have "attractive features" (e.g. capable of being aroused by) an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 03:20 PM
3

Please find me any post at TRP that says you should post videos online without someone's consent or sell them. I will have them removed. This is not something we'd ever advocate for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:37 AM
13

Because when you write an article about women cheating in their marriages they're "exploring themselves" or "breaking free." Men are just cheating. It'd make a hilarious OP ed to take one of these female exploration articles and just insert the name James. "James felt limited by the confines of marriage, so he set out to explore himself by finding someone to have an affair with."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 12:39 AM
3

In what way? RMV or SMV? Gang members have high SMV but zero RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 10:32 PM
2

serving time for doing things he learned from his weird little cult. lol whut?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 10:31 PM
1

There isn’t really a community that shows women how to get “alphas” or otherwise top tier men for more than a romp. That is what RPW is for, women finding high betas to groom and go long with. It's strategy for conservative women. For liberal women, they use FDS to look for betas suckers. For liberal women who want hire tier men without the FDS control issues there's female looks maxing subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 10:30 PM
1

Ok Larry David.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 10:21 PM
0

I am skeptical you have any realistic idea of what "weird" is. That's my critique. This sort of thinking is actually a lot more risky than you're leading on. Those small "cheats" are a big deal if they are unravelled and it'd happen faster and easier than you think. So you go out with your 2" heels and a friend has no shoes in the house policy? What now? Make an excuse and leave? Argue that "women do it?" I mean this is sort of the delusional weirdo thinking that got incels where they are. the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:41 PM
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Right, and I'm asking what the purpose of this thought is? The world isn't fair, and standards aren't uniform. Men buying lifts offers poor ROI because it probably would be spotted by someone and would be an easy way to gather social capital in a group setting by pointing out such an obvious gaffe. Men are already doing this, as I pointed out. That's why you see Redwings on so many really short guys. https://embed.widencdn.net/img/redwing/g8gfilhja5/600x600px/RW01907C_MUL_N1_1115?position=S&crop…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:11 PM
1

I'm merely making an obvious comment, which is that normal people do not sit and think out equivalencies and say "well women do it, so I don't care if Max wore 2" heels." Pretty basic social stuff, which is why I'm confused at what your goal is here. This isn't how people work. Is this just ultimately a rant about how human beings socialize?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:56 PM
1

If people did find out that a guy was wearing shoe lifts and frown upon him, so be it, why should he care? Because his social capital will be zero'd out and he'll forever be "short guy that wears heels." He'll literally be a laughing stock in every circle he is in, outside of some weirdo autist circle if he found like minded people. But again, this isn't how neurotypical people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:38 PM
-2

Right, they buy that as a dishonest way of presenting as an honest shoe purchase. You want men to do something overtly that is frowned upon. If you want to boil the argument all the way down, your argument is essentially why aren't human beings more rational? Because most people aren't autistic. This how autistic people think, not how normal people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:23 PM
1

It makes perfect sense. The extra height on cork soles is for comfort, mileage and function of the shoe\boot. Extra height for a man's shoe is a vanity function. Vanity is not a masculine trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:14 PM
0

baubles TIL neat
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:59 PM
6

Serial dating men who you don't intend to marry and having casual sex partners several times a year are indecipherable from a body count perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:58 PM
2

Redwing cork shows\boots are the most acceptable way a guy can do this. They give like a half or .75". Anything more than that you'd get laughed at. But I've noticed really short dudes wear cork sole shoes a lot more than I otherwise see men wear them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:55 PM
1

We do get naturals that have beta slid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:52 PM
2

We absolutely get male naturals that have beta slid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:52 PM
1

Af bb
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 10:12 AM
1

You are trying to paddle upstream with your hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:26 AM
5

No. Basically the worst times. It turns out what makes marriages work is something like male to female power differential, gender roles and high exit barriers. Right now it's covert female power, "no gender roles" with negative exit barriers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:23 AM
2

Bodybuilding girls The girls that are hooking up with gym rats? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:22 AM
4

lol no. They'll do that in a literal fashion then cheat on him when "there was no chemistry." Masculine women basically need sociopaths to keep them in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:21 AM
2

Thank you dirty_hooker
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:19 AM
1

My woman's
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:52 AM
1

It's worse than that. When we put up hers trolling for other women we used a potato as a picture while writing the profile and still got a couple messages a day from ACTUAL and fairly average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:31 AM
1

Only if you're willing to roll over and get your cheeks spread. If not it's cool. If you are "I'd do anything for my kids, even if she leaves" then you're fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:42 AM
3

a. Well that's why they measure it relative to men. b. wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:54 PM
1

If you want to take the point seriously, you'd have to analyze the incentives and motives of the average male and think about what that world might be like. That's what they're driving at. They think it will collapse, an outright rejection would be pretty low effort but it's speculation. What isn't is that female happiness lagged happiness once they started getting more rights and male jobs. That's the female happiness paradox. So your post fails on that leg IMO. There is an assumption (which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:29 AM
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Right. But what they said to you is that it's the epitome of conceit to think western society is above collapse. I mean you'd have to be pretty historically ignorant not to understand that statement. No advanced civilization or country that has collapsed obviously saw the mistakes in their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:18 AM
3

Your OP is wrong because of the female happiness paradox. Women now lag men in happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:07 AM
4

What does that have to do with the point made to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:06 AM
11

Male projection, women don't really care in the same way. Men get disgusted at the thought of another dude's jizz inside of her. Women aren't thinking about a dude's dick that way unless her friend is dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 08:04 PM
2

One of the best books ever written on outcome independence and frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:05 PM
1

There is a lot of "male energy" in these videos while women usually are just treated as toys. Ok, yes this is how it be. I was affected by this too, and when I got into my first relationship I was pretty much lost in bed. It is so important to listen to the female side, to listen to what turns them on, and what they want because otherwise, you will get a one-sided bias not just in the way you shape your active part, but also what you expect and demand from your partner. You spent all this time r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:01 PM
0

Yes. But not to the level preached by pua.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:13 AM
1

S W E D E N
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:41 AM
2

30 year olds freaking out that "I don't want to die" are pussies. Literally FUD.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:18 AM
2

You say potato and all that. My read is the US pop is a bigger bunch of pussies than I thought and I had low opinions out the gate. Swedes magnificent balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:15 AM
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Sweden has social distancing in place... and well that's pretty much about it. They're threatening bars and restaurants that aren't following the rules, but otherwise there's no drastic stay at home, shut down the economy response. I'm saying people are "rolling over" rather than saying "fuck you, there's no reason why I shouldn't be able to get on my boat." That level of control should be dictated by the declaration of martial law. It's absurd. I think Sweden has it right is my opinion. The goa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:49 AM
1

tldr; Sweden
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:00 AM
1

No, I think the policies are tone deaf. e.g. harassing people in boats on water when it'd be totally kosher for them to be 4 feet from someone in a store. If some of these governors or mayors want people to stop everything, then they need to declare martial law is my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:02 PM
1

Working class women or those born as low class did not enjoy the same priviledge. What is your point? I'm not saying that women need to be Emily Dickinson. I'm saying women think they need to be Emily Dickinson.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:13 PM
1

What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:03 PM
-2

You typed all that and said nothing. What are we missing out on?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:52 PM
1

More like "how would America be worse?" I don't need to rewind time with my statement. I'm saying how would it be worse? The only people it would affect is some hyper minority of women. All the neurotic women who were unhappy then are still unhappy today. The kinds of women that this empowers didn't let anything stop them before. And the ones that didn't want a husband or kids were already doing the same stuff. I don't see any advantage here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:41 PM
1

Watching everyone interact after this virus broke out, it's pretty clear to me we're completely fucked. I had no idea people would roll over this easy. Welp is was a nice country before we let women vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:19 PM
1

I'm super duper independent. So you're a bitch. k.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:09 PM
5

You mean to tell me at TRP we're not here to support covert male servitude. Color me surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:06 PM
4

Ok, well read the actual reply. Again, just because a Geo Metro is a piece of shit, that doesn't mean a Camry is "wonderful."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:45 PM
3

I am another EC that agrees with the notion that the "anger stage" doesn't necessarily need to completely resolve itself, because men actually don't like women. In the way that women state that argument, I agree. Hypergamy goes against the male desire to own women. That's why "she's not yours" is a rule, and one that men don't like. But your OP is poor, putting it politely, as usual. Our entire ethos as a sub, as mods, ECs, admins in the group etc. Is to smash men down to nothing and rebuild the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:41 PM
1

Doing things to please a man, specifically and also enjoying that labor. Making him look good around others. It should be noted though I think, the more important thing here is to control for "showing emotions." Women do this, no matter how male brained they are. It's not a big deal to men. Another user posted about farting. That kind of stuff I can agree with. Not in a "women never fart" type of insanity where you have couples who never leave the door open. I'm talking about women who actively …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:28 PM
3

+1
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:23 PM
1

So after factoring out the general basis of this, you are left with outlier men. Your statistical prowess knows no limit. Constrained only by your olympic mental hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:22 PM
2

This is simply much less common 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 03:56 PM
1

OOF
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:57 PM
1

Right, always my thought when I see one begging for money. I just think this bitch must be insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:57 PM
10

Yet I don’t see fat women Complaining it’s men fault they can’t get dates. Because they're being pumped and dumped, so they're still in the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:44 PM
1

Being diagnosed and "women being better at socializing" aren't inversely correlated. I'm saying women aren't better at socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:44 PM
-2

Personally, I think its because women are better at socializing than men. Yeah easy mode, what do you expect. Literally go do anything you want where men are present and be pleasant. Get approached. Don't say anything insane. Repeat to taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:21 PM
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Actually entirely agree with your title for once then you threw this into the mix... In fact, women are more likely to care about a man's personality, hobbies and achievements. No, not at all. The entire reason why your thread is actually true for once is why this is false. Men like women as a person, but they do not like women. You are correct, they fall in love with the idealized version of "women." The basis of how beta males fall in love is predicated on the fact that "this woman is not like…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 03:11 AM
5

The difference is a dog doesn't think it's my better or equal. It doesn't even have a conceptualization of such a thing. Probably why I find bimbos so appealing I guess.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/20 04:41 PM
2

You can be #5 without "looking for a way out." It's called being jaded. And no one has ever crafted me an argument of why women aren't simply low value men. Call it "anger stage" or whatever. My tl;dr for men and TRP, is that women are low value men without duty or honor. So much to love and respect.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/20 04:20 PM
1

Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:47 PM
2

Anyone with any critical thinking skills sees this stuff and the fact that it's moderated out of existence is contributing to the fall of SJW culture. I'm on an unmoderated local facebook group in a very liberal area and about 80% of posters are straight shitting on their stuff all day long. These habit of websites mainly run\moderated by young liberal tech guys to suppress these narratives has resulted in a large percentage of the population outright rejecting their narratives. People outright …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 05:19 PM
2

Right. Because they would diagnose men with ASPD and diagnose women who would have otherwise been ASPD as BPD. It bolsters my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 07:00 PM
2

They have a literal basket diagnosis that is "different than other people and doesn't care to conform." I read the description and it's literally most of the guys on reddit. They seem to use "animal" a lot in the description but it's pretty clear if you inserted videogames there, most of reddit could probably get diagnosed. Of course they'll use semantics to try to create authority to the argument. But truth be told, I think it's pretty hilarious to categorize these people as "mentally ill." Esp…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:27 PM
1

That's hilarious, it more or less confirms the exact thing me and other poster were talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:19 PM
2

Right, but what's the sense in literally "you are different" as a entire discipline? They dress the part of something to take serious, but when you dress it down, it's like... okay, that's sort of a load of shit. It becomes even more obvious when you look at the whole "homosexuals are mentally ill" and now we're enshrining "trans" children to transition. They can't help themselves. They've made a mockery of it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:13 PM
1

I can't tell if this is satire or serious. Can you expand or put a /s?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:11 PM
1

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/07/world/asia/islamic-state-tajikistan-bike-attack.html Pretty much a microcosm of your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:10 PM
1

Exactly my point. Women would prefer to be conquered. And so a country that runs on female value systems will be conquered.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:03 PM
2

Their thinking is distorted Right. But to who? I've been thinking about this for a while and to be honest, while I think they've got some really great insight... you look into stuff like BPD and you gotta give it to them. I don't even understand how they figured that stuff out, it's really, really complex. But then you start to realize also, it's basically a racket. It's just a collection of behavioral habits that liberal women don't like. I think both of these things are true. It is useful and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:01 PM
1

I think it's funny you say men are "irrationational" when you get things like the Google incident which shows exactly what female work culture is like. If we had feminine modern work culture during the industrial revolution, I doubt we'd be the world's superpower. We'd be some middle of the pack nation like France.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:54 PM
1

Best I can do is making the world more feminine is a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:44 PM
4

It's studied and it's an unattractive trait. It might be a preferred trait in a partner, but it's not attractive. Like income on for a woman. May be what you look for in a wife, but her income isn't going to get you hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:21 PM
1

That's a weird way to frame "men vote less liberal." Seems to support the argument that all voting did is create issues with hypergamy and make the world more liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:20 PM
1

High SMV is high SMV, but women have absolutely crashed prices. Literally and figuratively.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:19 PM
1

Women shouldn't vote is the flip side to hypergamy. I can see the merit to the argument. Do you have an argument outside of "we should be equal?" As in, how is it going to better the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:59 PM
3

I can agree with this. I used to regularly read it to see if anything I submitted got poked at. Only once did my content land on there and it was for being too wordy, which I can agree with in hindsight. I've seen some mild objections to amorality, but mostly they seem to focus on delusional content and also some hypocritical stuff. So in that regard TBP is alright. The whole "debunked" angle is ridiculous though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:57 PM
4

Being agreeable is an unattractive trait in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:55 PM
1

Self worth is not at all the correct word for me. None. But I do spend considerable effort to ensure these things. Just that none of my self worth is derived from it because once you understand women, why would you get wound up by that? When you're a young beta you're competing with men and when women reject you they're saying "you're not good enough." It hurts because they're inadvertently attacking your own male value systems. When they select you or prop you up, you do get that ego boost that…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:53 PM
9

This is pretty interesting because I had an epiphany the other day. That "anti-social personality disorder" when you remove the actual negative elements (e.g. harming others) seems to simply just be people who don't care about status. The basic idea is that our self-esteem is a gauge for how well we are connected to others or how likeable/desirable we are to others. Which links back to this. Where by there is some "requirement" that the esteem of the individual is status derived else they are "a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:47 PM
1

So loan out your girlfriend then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 10:15 PM
3

Women respect men to the degree it benefits them. They respect men with high-n who are high SMV and play into their interests. Internet is littered with hilarious stories of women excusing men with high-n behavior and absolutely crushing low smv men with low-ns for mild transgressions. Or as we say "rules as for betas." Which is roughly correlated to "rules are for low-n men."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:05 PM
3

"Men that are respected by society" It's almost as if you've independently discovered gynocentrism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:25 PM
2

Men don't think men with high-n are pathetic as a rule. Because it is difficult and most men want to have more and better sex than they're having. Like I said, testosterone is the constraint here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:13 PM
3

Are you changing your OP now to a matter of respect from pathetic?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:07 PM
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In the same way a guy with a high n count is pathetic. He spend so much time getting laid, for what gain? Okay, so you're a woman any value outside of the initial validation and dopamine hit. Okay, so your post is worthless. Men have something like 12 times as much testosterone. They want sex 12 times as much as you, and some men get it as much as they want. Which is 12 times more than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 06:49 PM
1

They're just banging for roof now. It's pretty much impossible to fuck up being a woman so long as male T to supply is like 12:1 at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 04:58 AM
3

+1 on this mofo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:08 AM
3

Learning women are basically low value men gives it a pass 🤷🏻‍♂️ Just because "this is how women are" doesn't mean men need to respect or resonate with it. At least anger stage dudes get it and will turn that energy into something. Hopefully not mgtow/black pill etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 12:26 AM
3

Right. Which invalidates this whole argument. You've argued in a full circle why trp exists and merely been projecting the whole time like I said. The number of men who understand the red pill truths is probably less than 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:04 PM
4

They were unintentionally and grossly misled because of their agreeableness and desire to treat women as equals more than their desire for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:35 PM
2

Projection
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:27 PM
3

Yeah but what is a blue pill with a spine? Just a high beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:24 PM
1

Almost no one that beats their wife goes to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:23 PM
2

Your not addressing the messages that were sold to these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:21 PM
1

Lol at literally posting correlation equals causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:19 PM
1

Actually studied 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:17 PM
0

Show me what you think is a four and I'll let you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:08 AM
0

That’s just like your opinion, mam.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:30 PM
2

Does anyone understand what SEXUAL market value is here?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 09:31 PM
5

This is literally all RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 09:30 PM
4

But hey, we saved your fuckin' life, right? Every guy goes through the same process of institutionalized gaslighting and eventual self induced insanity. All because what? You just wanted to do right by her. It's crazy man. Such a trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 08:42 PM
0

Ignoring a woman's happiness and being unmasculine are the same thing. When I'm saying "be more masculine" I mean to increase her level of arousal towards him by actually being more masculine. Ignoring a woman by itself is not masculine. Weebo vidya kids can do that, doesn't make them masculine or arousing. I understand there are very neurotic women who will leave men they're very aroused by. But they are exceptions to the rule and they are marriages men shouldn't want to be in anyways. At MRP\T…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:45 PM
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It's honestly a really sad problem because I would say most of the men who get into this bind actually want their wives to be happy. So they get stuck in this bad feedback loop where they ask their wife what is wrong, and then try to solve that problem but their wives actually have no idea why they're unhappy. It's easy to say it's because the house is a mess or because we "don't go on enough dates" or whatever. It's a lot harder to admit there's no attraction. When that department turns around …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:43 PM
2

95% of therapists are incapable of telling men the real problem. Not being masculine enough. And even if they told them, they won't be able to assist them. Therapy is a racket and was even in less blue pill times. Again, we agree these men aren't fixing their problems. I'm only disagreeing with how they fix them in this exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:08 PM
3

What women on here think "the average man's" sex life is like." What men think "Chad's" life is like is top 1-5%. Even celebrities need to put some effort in, get shut down and mocked by women etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:03 PM
1

Right, MRP you learn what the problem is. Not being masculine enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:56 PM
3

The problem isn't that you need "therapy." It's what men learn at MRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:56 PM
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That “nagging” that so many dudes complain about and tune out in LTRs means she’s not happy MRP\TRP have never denied this. Just that the reason she states this is wrong. Increase masculinity, rest to taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:05 PM
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I am an EC that had an axe to grind like this with TRP and hoped to change the content etc. You can't do anything. There's literally a hundred reasons why and I can't type all day. But here's the easy ones that come to mind why none of this matters. Irrational skepticism Denial (takes time) Have different belief systems which TRP conflicts with (even if it were true they wouldn't want it) You could convert it into a single video format and I doubt it would make much of a difference because 1-3 s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:56 PM
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Therapy is bullshit though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:50 PM
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WOOSH
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:28 PM
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Your cats?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:11 PM
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Why would any difference matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:53 PM
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Great, doesn't follow your conclusion. Follows what you just observed, that women may be more kind. Has almost zero to do with your conclusion. The math on this is laughable too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:30 PM
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If autism was genetically common we'd have died out as a species. You have it backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:11 PM
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You mean like incels and dudes with assburgers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:09 PM
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That's one way to look at it incorrectly. Take note everyone else. There's a joke on r/wallstreetbets to "inverse" anything that becomes well known on the sub. I think this strategy applies to posts like this. Invert it and you've found the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:00 PM
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td;dr If you had to choose between a sweet old grandma that makes 30% more than you and definitely wouldn't cheat on you and a 19 year old girl with a drug problem, probably will cheat on you, is couchsurfing who looks good, which of those two choices is going to end in sex? Grandma : Yeah but I'm actually really nice and stable!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:59 PM
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The leap between these links, even if you took them on face value and the proposed conclusion isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:55 PM
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Emotional intelligence is more powerful than any laundry list Chad qualities, and men who deny this are too afraid to go to therapy and face themselves. Nope. Studied.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:48 PM
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I've made a whorepost before, userbase doesn't care. TRP brass doesn't care, is apolitical and amoral to it. So if you want to, go for it. I mean 100% you should be improving yourself, not converting one effort into cash and changing commodities markets. But regardless, it IS more efficient a lot of times. It's actually pretty insane how many college girls do this stuff. The markets not even saturated yet either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 08:19 PM
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We use the terms as jargon. They’re unrelated to social hierarchies. And even if they were it doesn’t dispute what I wrote. It reinforces it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 07:21 PM
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I am stating that it's impossible to get an accurate correlation from this thus should not be used to draw any conclusions from. On what basis? You're wrong. This is a basic correlation study. There's literally nothing more simplistic you could put together in a study. They are claiming it to be science - When analysing data both correlation and the cause of this data should be taken into account. FOR WHAT REASON? Causation isn't important unless you have a reason or desire to prove it. Correlat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 04:06 PM
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I agree with your premise but I think you've framed it wrong. This is where I've spent a lot of time, take it as you will. Men don't care what women find attractive physically. No shit women don't find other women attractive. So men aren't really surprised they find things like forearm muscles attractive. It might be like "oh, that's weird... neet." But men aren't by in large having hard to swallow moments here with this stuff. Even when they learn women like Chads, straight up. Okay, strong jaw…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 03:56 PM
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What are you talking about? They didn't even bother getting into causation because it's entirely unnecessary. Literally claiming tattoos are causative here would be retarded. Finding causation is pointless. They've made the correlative claim and nothing more and speculated on causative factors (e.g. risk tolerance).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 03:34 PM
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If you need science to prove things which are plainly observable you're going to have a bad time at life. This is 100% one of these things that you shouldn't need someone to "prove" to you.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/20 03:32 PM
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Go cherry pick us "life is better as a man" from a FTM then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 03:05 AM
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Sure, but the concept of women as children explains it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 01:44 AM
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They're not incahoots. You're just witnessing female obliviousness at scale. They actually believe what they peddle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:40 AM
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It's not common, it's just not uncommon. My observations is it tends to mostly be women that are looking for men who aren't low SMV but they have a power diff over. Basically no different than 30\40 year olds dudes trying to groom a 20 year old girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:39 AM
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but that’s not how I’m wired. No normal women are, you were just honest with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:22 AM
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You've misunderstood the concept of hypergamy. Restated in your language, it's that "women have an evolutionary sexual arousal drive." It's always there, it influences how she mates and dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:35 PM
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No way man, as a member of the old RooshV forums Roosh was as red pilled as they came. What gives you that mindset?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:24 PM
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You can confirm AF\BB by looking into most female mate selection studies. They call AF "short term mate preferences" and BB "long term mate preferences."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:23 PM
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and the women are always over the top sluts who proud of it. Yeah maybe in content that predates 2008 or so. Manic pixie dream girl trope has been a slut since then. Tehehe Eric, I've slept with everyone that has appeared on screen so far in this movie, interested in being the next? Catch me if you can tehehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:14 PM
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Evolution is blind, or as we say it "hypergamy doesn't care."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 08:36 PM
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If men hate women who have high body counts then ur would be logical for them to date conservative women. Yeah, that's exactly the point. This is what men do. Sleep with sluts and find a "good girl" to raise a family with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 05:50 PM
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I think they're more marginalized than you'd think. go somewhere and talk to a woman are going to start forming roaming gangs? No, they shoot up schools and run over crowds of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:40 AM
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I mean I am making the same argument. But I've never said that the black community is this way because of "criminal tendencies." I just think a natural outcome to disturbing prosocial incentives is for any culture to devolve into that. Take away jobs for the average man, give them to women, have them start competing for genetics alone, have them decry "men aint shit" and rub this in men's faces long enough and they'll get the point. Right now we're in a period of male hysteria so I literally don…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:22 PM
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It'll get a lot worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 09:34 PM
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Widespread decriminalization and cultural acceptance of prostitution. A lot of tension stems from unequal access to sex. Women get sex on demand while men have to jump through hoops and dance like monkeys. This will completely devalue the power of pussy and destroy the female monopolistic stranglehold on sex and dating markets. FYI this plays a non-important role in this. I looked into this a while ago and talked to some people from different cultures. I doesn't change dating leverage at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:48 PM
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Nothing, sexual competition is innate to the species and a manifestation of evolution. This has already played out in different cultures. We have never seen this reverse, I have no idea how it possibly could.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:47 PM
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Depends on the world you want. If you think that Brazil is a great place and would live there so that women are happier, then more power to you. You make a good point, but these objections are more about society than men. Obviously men adapt when you deprioritize society (men). That's what is meant by "there will be consequences." Yeah, large groups of marginalized men turn into financial drains and violent criminals to give themselves a place in the SMP and "society." Vs large amounts of margin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:44 PM
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AWALT Affluent women just spin their trashiness. A trashy woman cheating on her husband is magically converted into "finding herself." This post means nothing. Said uncle has like 10 baby mamas now and always living at a girlfriend’s house. Friend said every 4 years, they hear about another cousin or 3 being born. I can assure you plenty of these women are accountants, lawyers, admins etc. Just another affluenza post. This is another reason I was shrug off the “Sexlessness epidemic”. I dont thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:18 PM
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Yeah, for headcases.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:00 PM
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You've got it backwards. These are headcases that are fucked up, who have fucked up sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:51 PM
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Put together a coparenting agreement, pay your child support, see your kid, NuCuck
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:49 PM
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Well that's a lesson you'll have to learn on your own that we call "AWALT" but it's better than wasting your time learning that lesson with people you have even less in common with. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:45 PM
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You are probably an ideal candidate for dating in church I'd assume then. Discover all this stuff together with your future wife. Why bother trying to bring yourself up to western dating standards when they aren't even value systems you agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:39 PM
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And well, am I right? Did he\she tell you that your thoughts aren't all that abnormal? Get out there, go fail man. You haven't truly lived as a man until a hot woman has disappointed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:30 PM
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Interesting counterpoint. My gut right now is saying this is going to be a nothingburger and if Sweden's infection rate is similar, then it'll be clear this was just liberal hysteria and the safe age will end abruptly and we'll usher in 10 years of hard right. If Sweden stays open and has the same curve liberals are fucked. Everyone watching their 401ks tank, their jobs at risk etc will turn on these worry warts and want their head on a platter. It'll be a turning point in American history. We a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:04 PM
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stuck in an adult's body with disgusting and frightening urges See a therapist. Most of what is going on in your head is probably a fabrication of your own design. e.g. Your urges are probably normalish and what isn't won't be news to whoever you talk to. I talked to a pysch once who opened up and he told me in no uncertain terms that the world is full of crazy shit. You are probably blinded by your own affluence and have no idea how much shit is going on around you. We are more animal than we a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:57 PM
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It's just a natural extension of the proportion of infected people. The greater percentage infected, the more chances that someone who interacts with a quarantined person will infect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:53 PM
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Right, but when you do the math on instantly infecting the under 50 population and how many over 50 will get it how quickly, then you get like 500k+ old dead people and hospital systems all at literally 100.00% util. I'm not saying this is the answer, I'm just saying this is complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:44 PM
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Nah man. Learning how women operate is just a disappointment. I'm not going to creep your post history further than you list yourself as male and christian. You might literally be 10-20 years behind the curve and might not discover how this game actually works until your 2nd or third divorce. Or maybe you never learn and you just sit in blissful ignorance. I assume at this point you still think there are some women who "aren't like the others." (NAWALT)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:10 PM
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The best thing to do would be to quarantine the elderly and those with compromised immune systems while the rest of us live our normal lives. Hospital system\ventilators is the constraint here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:59 PM
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Is there anything wrong with men listing weight preferences? Yeah, it's autistic. You're not looking to exclude fat chicks you're looking for women with "an active lifestyle." You think Hamela is going to read that and not get the point? Just like you can't say "don't be a high maintenance bitch", you say something like you're looking for a woman who "isn't sophisticated."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:44 PM
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Pretty disappointing it took me 10 years to realize you go back for her and then spank her for misbehaving. It's the only win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:30 PM
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This woman is barely literate.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen08/04/20 02:57 PM
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I think most of it has to do with how bureaucratic it all is. I had an an ex-1099 file unemployment and it brought an audit with it. I learned this was a thing from friends that work construction, I was totally oblivious this is a thing low level workers do. Everybody was pleasant, but there was an undertone of "we could fuck you if we wanted to" that came with it along with a tone deafness that is hard to compare to anything else in the world. "Oh well... where's your 6777G-2?" HUH? The fact th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:52 PM
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Because society is beta. Don't worry though, it's only going to get worse. Right now the "fathers" are responsible for that payment, in 10-20 years it'll just be part of your taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:44 PM
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You know that friend that fucks up everything in their life, because that's just what they are, despite the fact they in their heart of hearts want it to turn out right? Are they "wrong?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:22 PM
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lol at never having been in this position. tldr ; It's not about chores. Every woman complaining about this is fundamentally complaining about their husband not being masculine enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:18 PM
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More like realizing the company is a MLM for most guys. It might be true for maybe 5% of guys, but as we've already said a hundred times, for the other 95%, it's just because we don't like her. "I'm intimidating" is woman speak for being a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:44 PM
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There's new holes daily. https://imgflip.com/i/3vt3f8 When are they going to accept it and take their medicine?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:36 AM
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lol how are people this in denial this shit is not going to absolutely buttfuck the economy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:16 AM
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I don't see how this is different from OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:14 AM
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You're not addressing my actual point. OP isn't talking about alpha males. Invariably as they explain what they offer they're going to explain the high beta life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:12 AM
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You gotta understand that most people have no idea what an alpha male is. Which is more of the gas station robbing, cheat on every woman they've ever been with type. Most people on here project their own affluence. They don't factor this because they wall off their life from this reality. https://new.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7ukku8/the_true_alpha_on_male_virtue/ This may be a tough read.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:09 AM
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You're speaking about a subset of males, beta males. Super high-t, high conflict, risk loving type men won't care what your gambit is. You're not unique. But I agree your post applies to most men, some 85% of them. But I can assure you the kind of guy that has knocked someone's teeth out doesn't care about whatever you think you offer. Because you're just hole 33 or "the red head girl that worked downtown and gives good head" or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:53 AM
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edit : mods are gay, what now?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:50 AM
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Then I can't read your word salad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:49 AM
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Sorry, your affluenza is showing. It's just not true. You really think the kind of dudes that slap women around are "commitment minded?" I mean I generally agree with you, but you could have just said men in general or something. There's a reason why alpha males are alpha males and it isn't because they haven't run into you. It's because they run through women like you all the time. You're basically only pointing out scarcity mentality in high betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:47 AM
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tldr; I stand behind RPs content, I think blue pill users are idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:44 AM
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I always mention I'd have chosen easy mode when this comes up. You'd have to be retarded not to. I mean assuming you're at least SMV5 and are willing to use makeup and not be a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:40 AM
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Sorry but I think blue pills are legitimately autistic retards and I spent a lot of time looking for holes in RP content. I didn't really find it. Just minor shit. I would be surprised and welcome any content that would prove anything I've looked into wrong. I think Rollo sees group behavior incorrectly (when he should recognize he's seeing self interest instead) and addressed the semantics of AWALT with my own content. Otherwise no issues. This forum I think is mostly reconciled with STR=TRP, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:37 AM
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I was addressing the fact that blue pills always double down on being skeptical, it's their defense mechanism. Only a moron would disagree with this at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:32 AM
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Or course.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:26 AM
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Well do you have AIDS?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:22 AM
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That's RPW's place in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 12:18 AM
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Lying by omission, also known as a continuing misrepresentation or quote mining, occurs when an important fact is left out in order to foster a misconception. Lying by omission includes the failure to correct pre-existing misconceptions. For example, when the seller of a car declares it has been serviced regularly, but does not mention that a fault was reported during the last service, the seller lies by omission. It may be compared to dissimulation. An omission is when a person tells most of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 12:09 AM
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Are you in a monogamous relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 12:02 AM
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So what you're saying is she's he's not yours? And AWALT AMALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 12:01 AM
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It's what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:46 PM
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You've discovered the female duty of performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:45 PM
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I just thought it's weird enough for outsiders to let them know it's a concept
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:43 PM
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Literally the first question I asked you is if you think women are undervalued in the household. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/fwp711/men_who_want_marriageare_married_what_role_do_you/fmpl9ra/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:50 PM
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So you lied to me then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:41 PM
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I didn't see your name. Yes I understand perfectly, femcels get treated exactly like most men who are rejected. I sympathise with your plight. And as someone who understands your plight well, I would say tread carefully. My analysis of the femcel movement is that there are a large number of women who have complexes. e.g. The one who recently posted a "face reveal." the asian girl. Make sure you're not that girl before you get too far down the rabbit hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:38 PM
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It's not about you at all, honestly. That's what actually happens to these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:30 PM
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Well yeah, because that marriage probably represents 20%-50% of marriages and maybe 1% or less are actually aroused by men weaker than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:11 PM
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But now I have more questions lol. Why isn’t having a pleasing orientation within the husbands role, as long as he has solid boundaries and never acts against the family’s interests? It's unrelated in my opinion. Women are happiest when they are with masculine men and absolutely will not tolerate men who aren't. When you see very liberal women with men who aren't masculine, the relationship will only survive as long as she is delusional and you will always see them change them out for more mascu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:00 PM
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Is it explicitly a dynamic where you’re her authority figure, or is a softer form of leadership, where you’re the high-level game maker but she’s basically free to do whatever within bounds and if her duties are met? (The latter is a dynamic that I think MOST women actually have but tell their friends that their partnership is “equal”...) Even my kids who have no idea what power dynamics are understand that "dad is the boss" and I have to counsel them not to say that to people when they ask what…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:51 PM
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First, pleasing orientation is not a servant orientation. There is a mindset difference here. That is, is it strictly the woman’s role to have a servants heart towards men and children and men serve in a more high level way, or should men reciprocate and have a servants heart towards their wife where appropriate? That's what provisioning, household management and masculinity is. For men, we call this the duty of performance. Men are already servants to women. It's just that many men aren't smart…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:41 PM
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There is literally no legal or practical downside to it for me so it's fine. No timeline. If any man is willing to fight for that position in a marriage I don't see why not. We had a back office discussion about it at TRP and I agree with Whisper's position that most users are too stupid to understand the strategy\nuance that would be given to them so the sub is better positioned as strictly don't. The kind of men who it would apply to would figure it out themselves anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:38 PM
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Not yet...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:30 PM
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elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:30 PM
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Men should seek to maximize their masculinity and work to protect and provide, women should seek to maximize feminine behavior, be pleasant and submissive with a pleasing orientation. A woman's goal is to manage her family (children) and a man's is to manage his household (house & wife). Both optimise their skill sets for such and learn to build on strengths and weaknesses. Women should defer leadership. This should run similar to a company and a woman's ultimate veto is to vote him out of offic…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:26 PM
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There's a funny meta joke here that makes this all clear. A guy you know stops fucking his wife, so you tell yours that you're going to get his wife pregnant. She says "don't you dare, I'm going to tell her that you're a monster! That you want to get her pregnant like some kind of cretan!" He laughs. "Go right ahead, tell her how awful I am, how I only care about sex and I am a terrible husband.... the worst! A real piece of shit!" It dawns on her that this might not work as she thought, so then…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:19 PM
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No, that's what people like you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:08 PM
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Your strategy isn't effective for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:08 PM
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Can you reveal what your actual concern is? This list of questions is too comprehensive and you obviously have some greater concern at play here. e.g. Do you think women are undervalued in the household? edit : User is a liar, disregard my politeness in responses to them while I played into their orchestration of their own victimhood. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/fwlvdl/harvard_study_expectations_of_wives_homemaking/fmpw8gq/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:07 PM
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Worry about that stuff is blue pill in itself. ultra woke gender queer feminist probably wouldn't want to date an MRA Yeah but that has nothing to do with politics, it's because MRA are blue pill simps. These types date red pilled men all the time. The issue isn't politics its masculinity. The issue isn't politics its attractiveness. Unless you are literally a nazi sympathizer, 98% of women aren't going to care. Unless you're a radfem, 99.99999999% men aren't going to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:05 PM
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Literally not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:02 PM
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I think it's more accurate to look at most advice in regards to the SMP as being institutionalized gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:59 PM
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tldr : Richie is a fag.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:55 PM
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I feel like in the future when we have an all knowing machine that can answer questions like this, blue pills are going to need to literally be put into padded rooms. This shit is so obvious to anyone who isn't liberal to a fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:54 PM
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I don't believe men don't have the exact same thing. I think the equivalent is believing that masculinity is something that women don't want, because you accept a woman's word at face value. Then as you get deeper into that delusion you start to believe what masculine traits you have should be minimized. Have you felt selfish for wanting to ask girls out, or desiring companionship? e.g. Being direct with women would be rude, women should be treated with respect. I'll be honest, this process is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:51 PM
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Yeah but that's the high beta route.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:47 PM
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Right into a reality distortion feedback loop straight into literal insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:46 PM
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Easy mode
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:57 PM
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Why would men tolerate such a state? Because most men actually believe that women are true egalitarians.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:46 PM
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https://brucegerencser.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/peanut-gallery.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:22 AM
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It'll take a while but you'll convert fully. I was exactly you a while ago. I understand you're being careful from a logical standpoint but eventually you'll see that being skeptical isn't the same thing you're doing. but you didn't want to listen. You just wanted to be right. That exactly how we feel. Fuck the bluepillers, fuck the redpillers, blackpillers, pinkpillers, hell, fuck a lot of the purplepillers too -- all of you should be ideologically purged, cleansed of your idolatry. You're not …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:45 AM
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OP was not about women wanting to fuck men. It's about an economy that doesn't need laborers anymore. She's not wrong about that. Uneducated muscleheads aren't going to find their limited skillset in demand anytime soon. Will always be attractive until it's bred out of the human genome in maybe 100,000 years if we're even still here we won't even comprehend the world as it will exist. You can only think like maybe a thousand years into the future, and even then it's pretty hard. Like they knew t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:13 AM
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There is no compromise because you're actually witnessing grouping by value system\worldview. e.g. blue pills value cooperation, being cautious, skeptical, orderly, men want romance, women want egalitarianism. Have naive expectations. red pills consider cooperation to be a fool's errand, are goal\results oriented, pragmatic, more chaos tolerant, want sex. You have different values systems than these groups, so you won't fall into either camp. Having been in your shoes, you're going to eventually…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:59 AM
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lol this is literally my background. That would be fine. This isn't a discussion about economics at all. I spent the last 3 weeks analyzing the housing market, this is a thread from a mentally ill femcel pretending that women will want to fuck betas in the robot future. No amount of technology will make women want to have sex with genetically inferior men who act in genetically inferior ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:53 AM
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Yeah, so women will still fuck violent robot mechanics and marry and cheat on robot programmers who are super duper sweethearts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:51 AM
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Doesn't change my point at all. Gonna fuck robots, dudes who work on robots, or dudes who program robots?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:50 AM
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If I had a proper father figure I would have led a totally different life. Which I've decided to live now. A long time ago I remember someone talking about a family friend who "went crazy" and just went to another state and told his wife she could come with if she wanted to (I think she stayed behind if I remember right). It took me a long time to realize what actually happened. He got sick of her shit and wasn't a fag about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:47 AM
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huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:41 AM
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Right, so why do you care what we're talking about? You're in the locker room saying our basketball strategy isn't conclusive and we're out here trading our strategies. You say "you don't need to talk about basketball to learn in" and we say doesn't matter we like it this way. Choosing to sit out isn't a critique at all. It'd be one thing to say "well, I think the way you view defense downplays how important it is in the game, even if doesn't mean you are scoring with it" but it's another thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:01 AM
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This isn't what the article said at all lol. I can assure you S&M enthusiasts ARE NOT less neurotic. You're conflating natural sex dynamics with organized fetish culture. These two things are MILES away. On here we're talking about organized bdsm\fetish culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 12:50 AM
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"tehehe I'm not like other girls" -Girl who is ALWAYS like other girls Fell for that mother fucker for a long time. You really need a good father figure to get out of that loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 12:48 AM
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Because men thought women weren't shallow. It's a manifestation of disappointment. Like why did I invest my life into being a better person and something valuable in the world when I could have just spent time in the gym? Why did I respect women when they don't appreciate it? etc. It's like showing up to work on time every day, knocking it out of the park and then the job you're supposed to get goes to your VP's slacker son who never even went to college. Reality check, all the work you put in w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 12:46 AM
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Do you know what the blue pill is?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 12:43 AM
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Literally pick a TRP topic you disagree with on a fundamental point. e.g. I think hypergamy is wrong because...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 12:40 AM
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On paper sure. But evolution doesn't care. My body doesn't care if you draw women in cartoon form, it still gives me an erection. Your body doesn't care if it is "obsolete" and will still respond to masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 12:30 AM
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So you literally don't have one point you can make that isn't surface level debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 12:28 AM
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Just more pedantic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 11:15 PM
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But since many RP ideas are so blatantly backward on their face, and so fundamentally coming from a tribalist/shitty place, you couldn't have outsiders or "others" among the randomly selected because they would all sniff out the dumb in an instant. Ok, well throw a jab then. Something that isn't just semantics, garden variety skepticism, tone policing. Actually issue with the content\point that also isn't "you don't need TRP to learn...."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 11:13 PM
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I seriously want to know, I'm not insulting him\her. But if they aren't able to ascertain subtle nuances because of cognitive issues, they should let us know. Guess they reported it, felt attacked, so I'm going to assume user is autistic and refrain from debate with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 11:12 PM
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How can I ask someone this question in good faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 11:07 PM
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Lots of things are inconclusive and you seem to have trouble with this. Right, we don't feel that way because we're most risk tolerant than you. We have reason to believe we are correct so we soldier on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 11:06 PM
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But you're not. You guys don't even have juries of randomly selected peers. So you mean we can't convict people... huh.. guess we'll just go back to pooning.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 11:05 PM
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Stop being pedantic then. You honestly think that someone having a beer in a bar would only be able to understand the term legally? Come on man... Reasonable doubt, these words have meaning in themselves. Reasonable... and doubt. As in, you believe, beyond, a reasonable doubt, that a woman's arousal mechanisms are evolutionary mechanics. So do we. And so we say things scientists are unwilling to say because our goal is to get men to better empower their lives, not to worry that we might be wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:27 PM
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Science's superordinate value then is not being wrong, and ours is being useful and beneficial to men who don't want to live blue pill lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:24 PM
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No, it's not "bad testimonies." It's just a consensus of the group. ou def played yourself with this comment. You just admitted you only care about your own points and scrutiny doesn't matter. As long as there's "two kids saying" something, you'll believe it. Sounds gullible and childish to me, but then again, I'm a fully grown adult male. No, I was trying to get you to understand that even though I informally used the words "beyond a reasonable doubt" that we're still more scrutinous than the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:22 PM
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No, I'm saying a lot of scientists write word salads that ultimate could be said in one informal sentence. e.g. "We think that women orgasm to pairbond." And not have the balls to say anything because you "suggest that" and say "we can't say for certain." TRP : "Women pairbond with men they orgasm with." You : "That isn't proven science yet, so I remain agnostic!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:19 PM
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Example of informal word usage... You are a potato (as you reply that you aren't actually a starchy vegetable) You are being pedantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:17 PM
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I haven't been saying "science sucks" You guys just don't understand what soft science is and constantly try to take hard science positions with stuff that isn't even soft science. It would be laughable to walk into an automotive garage and start telling mechanics they're practicing pseudoscience, but that's more or less what your types do in here. If you were a mechanic, you'd probably be fired from every garage you worked at because instead of chasing down issues you'd be working millimeter by…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:14 PM
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"Science." Dude... lol. Science has its place, and it's not in this debate. It's incapable of even the most basic observations. Well we can't say for certain, anything Right, there's science for you in this debate. Intellectual cowards with no balls. People willing to make well reasoned pragmatic or philosophical arguments are more respectable than people who create a fustian word salad that ultimately has nothing to really say. Talk shit all you want, we have a hypothesis and we stick to it. We…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:09 PM
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Do you have any idea how low the burden of proof is for a conviction in the US? It's basically a couple children saying they saw you do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:03 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:56 PM
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We're not talking about a court of law, that burdon is even lower than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:55 PM
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To me what burden of proof? Scientific or beyond a reasonable doubt?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:55 PM
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Beyond a reasonable doubt, as in, you ask 100 people with a 115 or higher IQ and most people agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:50 PM
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since they are inconclusive. The statement I've been making isn't. It's an obvious fact that sits in a nice spot that shows science's weak spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:50 PM
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No scientist will claim this because the starting assumption is always an evolutionary basis. No it's not, which is why they use so many weasel words. It's "very likely" etc. They refuse to treat an obvious fact as such and instead treat it as a "very likely truth." It's literally institutionalized autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:48 PM
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The burden of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt for the men who read it, no more, no less. there would be no reason for this sub. Sure there is. I used to be you many years ago. I spent two years attacking TRP and gave up, they were right. PPD exists for men and women who are in various states of naivety, bargaining and denial. To which most resistance is focused on things like irrational skepticism, tone policing, terminology etc. Few people care to debate the actual points being made and most…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:46 PM
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I've told this guy no less than 3 times it was written tongue in cheek to troll people like you two and kept it up but it's really making me rethink that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:43 PM
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Most BPs I've seen are delusional. They post hoc rationalize their settling as their own choice. What they call "bargaining with yourself." Sure, on the one hand it's 100% realistic to do so. But to not admit to it shows their lack of introspection. Like yeah, I would like a 9 with a DDDs and a submissive attitude who loves me for who I really am. But I settle for reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:41 PM
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Right, like I said. Science might start making red pill statements in a hundred years. In the mean time, we'll use a reasonable doubt as the threshold for the burden of proof. Which isn't unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:09 PM
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The claim that "female arousal mechanisms have an evolutionary basis" passes the burden of beyond a reasonable doubt. It's just irrational skeptics that aren't able to digest this, because they're unable to separate scientific facts from reality and insist that any gap between these two they must be "agnostic" to. There is a limit to the usefulness of skepticism, as you can obviously see. Since you're unwilling to concede that science will not make these statements, even though they've obviously…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 08:54 PM
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May We suggest Could be related So, won't say it. Gotchya. Science is unable to make statements about basic, observable reality, like female arousal mechanics are evolutionarily in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 08:50 PM
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I understand how it works, which is why I'm ridiculing you and people who are irrational skeptics. When confronted with obvious truths, you are unable to accept them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 08:48 PM
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Look at you, pushing more pseudoscience on me. In this paper, I will argue that intense sexual pleasure, especially orgasm,can be understood as a primary reinforcer shaped by evolution to reinforce behavior that facilitates reproductive success You can look all you want, no one will make the claim concretely. You just discovered the Burden of Proof Yeah, your burden of proof is scientific law\fact. And ours is "beyond a reasonable doubt."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:57 PM
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This is woman speak for being a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:49 PM
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Ok, here's a pretty clear point. Female arousal mechanisms have an evolutionary basis. No scientist will say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:48 PM
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Most markets are considered "inefficient" because of what you observe. But when you look at them top down, they look less imperfect and have patterns. What you're commenting on is that the relationship is nonlinear. Very few things on earth are like this. e.g. the relationship between daily calorie intake, BMI and future weight is linear. The relationship between macros and future weight, is correlated. Plus you forgot the part that changes the game here big time... settling. Only "gig stacies" …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:36 PM
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Sure, then why bother bringing in such absurdity as calling this stuff "pseudoscience." But then you come right back into breaching a scientific approach to it. When you say "contextually" you mean bayesian inference, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:30 PM
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which still requires a) a probability value, b) assessing your priors. To be scientifically valid. Who the fuck is exchanging notes on the best way to get pussy and worried about peer review. It's vaginal inference.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:15 PM
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You won't be able to find a study that states this with certainty. That's the truth. So your view of "science" here isn't really congruent to these debates. You insinuate there is a "right" way to view the science here, but science doesn't even care to speculate. You have a view that will take 1-200 years if ever to change, and evidence indicates like handwashing that guys at TRP are more right than wrong. Many years ago you'd have claimed the same thing about handwashing and claims about smokin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:48 PM
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Irrationally skeptical. It's perfectly fine to be skeptical, but if the burden of proof is established scientific consensus, I'm not sure how you would expect to be able to make decisions in life. The vast majority of decisions require quick assessment with little to no ability to test your hypothesis or gut read. e.g. Which asset strategy you're going to choose right now is the perfect example. Cash, going to inflate. Housing market, uncertain. Stock market, uncertain. Bond market, uncertain. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:44 PM
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I don't even care about it, I just linked the reason why people assume the generation will be conservative. My point with you stands. You're not interested in any point that's being made, you're an irrational skeptic. You're not capable of making any assessment that requires speculation. You're a passenger in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:28 PM
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Evoscience won't even admit that female arousal is conclusively the result of evolutionary forces.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:44 PM
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And then they came up with evidence, over many decades. Exactly my point. When someone makes a claim like, "Smoking causes cancer," then those claims are proven right over and over again, that is not pseudoscience. That someone like you would have been one of the people who dismissed these things as pseudoscience for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:42 PM
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You are saying I would have made claims. Right, because they're logically consistent. It's not like these people had hard evidence to prove such a thing, just an observable phenomenon with a logical basis. So what you call "pseudoscience."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:24 PM
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My views are changed by evidence. So I would have been agnostic until the evidence changed my mind. That is exactly my point. You would have called those claims pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:20 PM
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You didn't address my point at all. Those "mountains of evidence" appeared decades after they were "pseudoscience." The lack of hard science doesn't make something pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 04:53 PM
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You're making a false dichotomy of a woman with lower hip bust ratios who has a lower BMI and a woman who has a higher BMI with a higher hip bust ratio. If you poll'd men with a low bmi woman with the same ratios it wouldn't be as confusing. That being said, the idea that men "only like skinny women" isn't supported IRL\with science. It's mostly about ratios, face\body for women and being under median male height. A woman with a 30BMI or under with good facial symmetry at or below male median he…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 04:45 PM
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You would have been one of the people who thought that smoking causing long term health issues was a conspiracy theory, same with handwashing helping reduce disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 04:39 PM
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tldr you don't think soft science is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 04:34 PM
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mate selection\patterns I see two general patterns. Women who are too risk tolerant who associate with men who are violent, and women who play fast and loose with "consent" and label men for their unwillingness to be direct and take control over their sexual agency. Do you think maybe engaging with these women serves a point that you might be able to convince them out of their view? No, as I said no one can convince them because they are victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 01:34 AM
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But why do they need to be median? Wouldn't a victim have a better understanding of a rape case and be more qualified to judge it? No, they're a better person to provide a victim impact statement along with an expert who would explain other relevant circumstances. My issue is primarily with the attitude with which they're treated, especially those who are asked - like when a woman is expressing very negative views on men and someone uses "lol I bet you were raped" as a kind of gotcha thing. It m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 11:58 PM
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Yes, because they aren't valid representations of median views. If they were on a jury for a sexual assault or rape or a case focusing on the SMP, they'd be removed. And for good reason. Same applies here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 10:48 PM
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The reason why you're wrong is why TRP\rollo even exists. It's all content that is written to our former selves that had come up with plans to deal with the SMP. They were poor plans. Rollo, TRP, me etc are explaining to men why those plans were poor so they can reorient themselves into more durable positions. This is what I wrote to you before you went on this unhinged rant for some reason. It's the most relatable, and systematic approach for men to understand the SMP that is strictly oriented …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 10:45 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theory
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:50 PM
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You didn't address my point at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:49 PM
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The reason why you're wrong is why TRP\rollo even exists. It's all content that is written to our former selves that had come up with plans to deal with the SMP. They were poor plans. Rollo, TRP, me etc are explaining to men why those plans were poor so they can reorient themselves into more durable positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:15 PM
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sweat kissing and holding and squeezing You've already described something that is intimate, so that's why you're confused. Sex for men isn't inherently intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 04:35 AM
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Depends on how neurotic they are. If they're just naturally high-t, low disgust types, they'll sleep with whoever. If they're neurotic, they'll get involved in the fetish scene and become "poly" etc. You'd have to more or less determine why she acts masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 08:05 PM
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The only advantage I can possibly imagine is that outsiders have an easier way to observe behavior. Like when you get SMV8 women in here or SMV8 males that were naturally just always good looking and behaved in attractive ways because of natural abundance it's pretty obvious how oblivious they are. SMV5 males understand this. Men that used to be SMV5 or shed their beta mindsets are able to see this. Men\Women who have never have scarcity literally are unable to see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 07:47 PM
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Because beta males and women think "men and women are the same" and project.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 07:44 PM
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Cluster-b, low disgust, non-secure attachment, high-t, lowish smv and non-romantic, high-n (as in, they fuck their way out of settling down), delusional and think they'll have children in their 40s, "child free" Pretty much any one of these things are a slut tell. e.g. If a woman is seeing someone because she has NPD, she has casual sex (because she's so awesome). Low disgust, she has casual sex because it's an easy risk\reward on the pleasure center, non-secure types use it as a way to feel lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 06:45 PM
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Huh? Are you really this delusional that you think this is related to the SMP? Georgia, Detroit, Florida, California and New York are all high growth areas, not to mention Spain and Italy. What kind of insanity are you going to concoct that these are "low hypergamy areas." There's basically a 1:1 relation between how quickly areas responded, how severe the changes were, how dense the areas are and how much of the population complied. Not to mention access to hospital beds and ventilators. And yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 06:38 PM
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Alpha-widows
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 06:34 PM
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http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/spin
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 06:33 PM
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It's projection. Women don't need to seek out someone for reliable sex, they always have a pool of suitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 06:18 PM
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Well good luck on your path to insanity, looks like you've arrived at its doorstep.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:52 PM
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If a man’s getting married for the sole purpose of sex What exactly do you think would happen to the best relationship you know of if the woman in the relationship stopped having sex with her husband? You say potato, I say potato and all that. Who cares if he really believes he married her because she's the most beautiful human being he ever met. If she stops fucking him, it'll sow the seeds of discontent. So whether or not you want to believe it, sex is the defacto foundation of the relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:07 PM
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For what you're saying to be true the "women are wonderful effect" can't exist. But it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:22 PM
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Yeah when you ignore every guy saying that sluts are awesome, just that they make awful LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:21 PM
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It makes sense that PC wouldn't work, but I also think there's a middle ground exposition of this that just about no one has properly struck yet This is actually the area I tried to "mine." It took me a while to understand and admit I was wrong in this approach. There's no middle ground way to discuss how to convince a woman to get an abortion when she doesn't want to or have a threesome if she isn't receptive. What do you get when you format dating advice in a way that is tolerable for women an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:18 PM
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I tried doing this with my content. People don't really care about tone, it's a locker room. Invariably, once you start running into topics like "facta non verba" where you ignore what women say your true issues are going to come into play (you're liberal) The problem you have is you're too liberal to read worthwhile dating advice because you overvalue women. Why is there no normal but useful dating advice for men? Because useful dating advice runs against the grain for how women think they date…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:35 AM
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It's when she decides to "try dating again." Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:31 AM
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Of course it is, which is why we advise men who are given "rules" not to get emotionally invested. Mark Manson also has the "fuck yes or fuck no" rule as well. Everything is about making sure that you're occupying the top spot in a woman's mind and being treated that way. It's a huge threat to any man to get involved with a woman who is settling for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 07:33 PM
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Yes, because women who are lonely and decide to reenter the dating market always tell men they've decided to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 07:23 PM
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No. Let's pretend you change it to the exact wording you want. How does that change anything for men? All you're suggesting is a word change or for men to acknowledge why. This doesn't change anything. It's just a broad acknowledgement that this happens to women and that they're high maintenance. Rename it to "The Twiteena Phenomenon" and it changes nothing from the male perspective. e.g. "What should I do about a woman I suspect as having the Twiteena phenomenon?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 07:14 PM
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How would this change the implications of the concept at all to men? As in, how would it change how they deal with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 04:17 PM
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I think this is a good point. Get bolt ons to get over him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 04:14 PM
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There was a poster that literally admitted to being an alpha widow in the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 04:13 PM
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Alpha WIDOW Did you miss the second part of the concept? The concept is the guy is so great she becomes a figurative widow, which you literally just admitted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 04:11 PM
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No, it has nothing to do with what the alpha-widow chooses. It's merely describing the state where a woman has a new high water mark that she isn't capable or doesn't want to replace.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 03:48 PM
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This is actually really clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 05:25 AM
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Usually until we get them to understand AWALT and all that. Unplugging is more or less "emotionally detaching" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 05:25 AM
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An alpha-widow.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 05:22 AM
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Not at all, he doesn't think that evolution applies to all women. That's the only take away from nAWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 05:01 AM
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Okay, start by describing a man that women want. Body stats, fitness, education, height etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 04:58 AM
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Then you purposefully decided not to understand the book. The entire book is written as a way to suggest that humans should be more like bonobos.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 04:57 AM
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I thought I was in a different thread. I don't know how to quantify that. I thought I was replying to the number of women who won't get their "best." That is 50% or higher. I don't know how many end up getting complexes from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 02:29 AM
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Absolutely 100%. Happens to men and women already.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 02:23 AM
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This is my jam. I don't really care or get into humiliation unless I'm being annoyed or disrespected. This sort of naturally pairs if she's a "brat." (women who like to be punished for misbehaving) I would prefer she does it as an act of love and trust. And would only form a serious LTR with a woman who tolerates this sort of thing. I don't really understand the point of a monogamous relationship anymore outside of family and I already have kids. I wouldn't really care or mind doing it as you've…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 02:19 AM
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I mean it's pretty easy to see. There are some women who aren't there yet and some women who are. What you're claiming is something like "there's no such thing as an alcoholic." "Look at all the women who drink responsibly, am I supposed to believe the one person who said they're an alcoholic and the one person talking about his mom?" They're both valid. There are women in here who are with their "best." By definition, not an alpha widow. There are women in here who can't find this guy again. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 01:55 AM
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You're telling people to avoid the socratic method? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 01:46 AM
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Read the other one written by a woman in here then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 01:42 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/fsmm4z/are_alphawidowed_women_screwed/fm2j88p/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 01:22 AM
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I've seen that before.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 01:21 AM
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Same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 01:16 AM
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Kind of. She can keep screwing her way to a match and maybe she gets lucky. I mean at some point her high water mark is basically not going to move anymore. e.g. Once you've been to a couple countries and traveled enough you'll go "hey, this is sorta like..." It really comes down to whether or not this woman gets over the high, because that's pretty much over.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 01:15 AM
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It's the socratic method... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method Are you actually serious you don't understand this is a normal part of debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 01:08 AM
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So you think evolution doesn't apply to some women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 01:03 AM
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You're taking about PUA
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 09:57 PM
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Are you the kind of person who thinks that college "is a scam?"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 09:56 PM
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Npd
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 09:54 PM
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Every woman thinks she’s a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 09:50 PM
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No shit, I just explained that to you. You ARE right, it's for male oriented, conservative, sex nerds. It's just like the female fetish community. It's just like a hobby community or any other "nerd" community. It takes a topic that most people understand at a surface level and picks it apart and analyses the minutia. Like here, let me explain how this is an analog to guitar forums. Your average guitar player would walk into a store and say "I want my amp to sound more like ZZ Top." The sales pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 06:11 PM
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In what way? If a guy uses it to get more pussy, how is that "dampening the blow of rejection?" I think what you're talking about is MGTOW\incels. Those are forums dedicated to actually telling those guys it's not their fault and to give up. TRP\MRP literally tell men the only way they'll be able to change their lives is to change themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 06:01 PM
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I mean you're actually not wrong in a way. The fetish scene is basically female sex nerds, and this is basically the male version of it. It's similar to any other hobby community I'm in. Guitar, cars etc. It's a deep dive on pooning. And just like guitar, where I've gotten the tone, style and people to network with from the community. Or cars, where I've gotten the advice on the best mods, or meetups... Red pill offers the same. If you want X, you need Y. But I'm not exactly sure how you plan on…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:34 PM
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Scum you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:27 AM
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alpha just means short term mate or partner. A woman's alpha is the man she chooses to have sex with, and requiring no relationship. A male alpha is just a man who chooses to have casual sex with women, not long term relationships. This guy is the average alpha male. The average alpha male isn't a guy in the top 5% of looks banging 8s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 11:35 PM
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I used the wrong word, more like "surface level" or even pedantic. Let me go back to that later. I'll have to think about it. I think ultimately women have innate systems which actively seek to destroy attraction between couples which only very masculine men can subvert. I think this is almost word for word what Esther Vilar wrote. So she I think observed the same things, but wrote about it differently. I don't think this is conscious for women, and I think it extends beyond the "message" and is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 11:28 PM
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love it, lol. I mean I get what you're saying now. And I'll have to think about that. Because within your context communication I think can mean a lot. e.g. Actually changing behavior is a change in communication, somehow. (Since she becomes receptive because you've changed how you send the message).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 11:22 PM
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Right. That's why the solution is to offer all possibilities, but to still promote the systems which provide the most happiness. That's what Germany did. Go on, do STEM if you want. Have a single child if you want, we want appload you for it. Do whatever you want. But if you get married, you are expected to take that commitment seriously, it's not easy to get divorced and we won't make life as a single mother easy. If that doesn't work for you, then don't get married or have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 11:19 PM
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Why not the opposite?, give men more relationship mobility. So everything can equalize. Well we have, just not for betas. If you want to see men and women with maximized relationship mobility, again, look at the black community. It's not necessarily a good thing. True, but do people actually want that? Yes. There's well founded logic on it to. It actually creates a hostile competitive environment for biological women. So it deprives women, who do not want to take testosterone, or who weren't bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:44 PM
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A lot of this seems to fall somewhat into semantics. Maybe saying "it is evolution" is overly broad and crass. But let's put it this way. I believe hypergamy is a set of behaviors that are the manifestation of evolutionary forces. Sit on it for a while and we can circle back to that, but that's really what it comes down to. My understanding, again, I know this bothers you, but my understanding is that you believe a woman's word. If she says she's not in the mood because he doesn't dust enough or…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:34 PM
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This is how betas view women and sex. Your point is true, but your analysis of your friend is not. If a man is SMV8, that means he can bag 8s (more or less). Some 9 might think he's a 9 because of subjectivity, but more or less that's his SMV. If your friend can only sleep with SMV5 women, then he's SMV5. But your friend does what alpha males do and that's sleep with whoever, whenever because it feels good. He's a poon hound. He's a SMV5 alpha male.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:13 PM
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Simply put, I think "your" lifestyles only make up a small fraction of women. I think most women believe they will be happier the more "free" they are, but there is evidence (depending on your perspective) that women are happier with less freedom and living gender typical lifestyles. e.g. In other countries that are more progressive, women have started repopulating gender typical jobs. That is they stopped pursuing STEM degrees as much and started become nurses and teachers again. It's very coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:07 PM
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care for the future or children I don't agree. I see where you're coming from but you have to understand that being prosocial is part of their very being. They fight it tooth and nail. The exact reason why these guys are so angry about this, why they believe they deserve this, because otherwise they'd just be out for themselves. So it's "priced into" their decision. It's something like "I'm here to work together, to help you, to work for you, why don't you appreciate me for it?" So I think you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 09:31 PM
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You weren't very clear so I was trying to understand. I can understand the case for it. So you should expand specifically on that the problems, pros and cons you see. Because that absence of forced monogamy, active or defacto (I would call a third world country forced, and tradcon days defacto) isn't necessarily "better" for women. It's only better for the childfree type of women. Urban black communities don't have forced or even expected monogamy. Educated black women usually end up dating outs…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 09:18 PM
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But who would want to date someone with crazy parents? That's me, not having a father around to be like "eyy guy, that's a bad fuckin' idea, k?" And being raised by a single mother so you just think "well, her parents are crazy, but she's special and unique, a perfect unicorn woman who isn't like the other girls." We're on the other side of the country now, but her mom tried playing some power games before we left. It was all pretty stupid because her mom didn't really do anything we asked her t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 09:11 PM
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They try to present being a beta as a positive. I mean it is, for society, just women don't care. You are risking yourself to be manipulated. Explain. No one knows what's going on in your head, explain in detail. I'm not really talking about efficiency. Explain how everyone would act in your perfect marketplace. I'm like 95% sure you're thinking in a really naive way, where you think everyone just follows "the rules." Like any time a relationship stops working, are you saying they should just pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:53 PM
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Please describe what you're staying. They do what? Like what is this marketplace you see where it is perfectly efficient? What exactly is inefficient in the market\manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:40 PM
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If you are happy with your life then you shouldn't have any regrets. I don't. I was saying I already accept what comes with it. It's like BASE jumping. The risk of death is accepted up front. They "signed their deal with the devil." I think both men and women should exercise their bargaining power Then what are you grinding on about? I don't get how it follows to the next? but let's be honest, beta males can't compete, so they will try to manipulate both men and women so they can get a better de…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:30 PM
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No one is forcing you to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:06 PM
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I already did the "best for me" life routine, remember? Make no mistake, I already signed my deal with the devil. I'm not naive. I just don't understand why you try to chide beta males and then you're sitting here moralizing on me. You were the one that pointed out the one with the power dictates the terms, remember? Or was it that you think power should only manifest itself in moral ways? I think you're being intellectually dishonest. I think the only thing you care about is that women are the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 07:57 PM
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Dude... what are you talking about. None of this makes any sense. I'm not part of any "cultural movement." Those are MRAs etc. People make choices at an individual level that only appear to be made with a consensus when you look top down. Beta males don't have any "collective power." They are in the position you claim. Which is they make choices based on their level of power. Men don't have any power at all they don't take into their own individual hands. Women select and they have the assistanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 07:48 PM
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Is your whole argument basically that men should just do what women want? I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 07:35 PM
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True, so you can't keep protecting a concept like traditional marriage if its already dead. Who said we are? TRP says "enjoy the decline." Here it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 07:15 PM
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Why liberals? And why women? Do you believe that several countries have a liberal bias? Wouldn't it make more sense to say that liberals adopt whatever the experts say? Not the other way around? Same thing. If you allow for everybody to be sexuality liberated, then everybody will allow you to be sexually liberated too, it's mutual liberation, everybody wins, even you, you get access to more women without destroying the marriage by cheating. Feminists killed marriage 1.0, so there's nothing to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:59 PM
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This is basically RP's "don't move in together" on hardmode. Rather than having distance to foster attraction this is going to burn out a lot of couples. Unless a couple has already gone through the MRP stuff and resolved itself I do see this causing a lot of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:41 PM
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No because we've all been on the other side, it's just the experience of dating. You're doing fine, you got "your girl" and then all of a sudden, there's a disturbance... something is wrong. She's distant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aofoBrFNdg https://pics.me.me/you-vs-the-guy-she-told-you-not-to-worry-42949232.png
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:37 PM
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The only way that makes sense is if you believe liberal women control the neurological-medical community in several countries. That just sounds too far fetch to me. It doesn't have to be as conspiracy oriented as you frame it. First of all, this is somewhat true. Second of all, the only thing that needs to be true here is that there is an institutional bias. What is "neurotypical behavior" need only be more or less indecipherable from what a liberal woman perceives as neurotypical. Which in my e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:19 PM
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I do wonder, if the correlation is so strong why isn't it included in the DSM5? Like promiscuity = mental case? Because the DSM is basically a collection of behaviors that liberal women find unnerving. There's some really legitimate stuff in there, but when that conflicts with this, it will be excluded. e.g. homosexuality used to be in there. It was removed. It was only in there because it was unnerving to liberal women at one time. Sexual addiction is not because they can't define it in a way t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:00 PM
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What makes you say that? Because it's true. There's some weirdo outlier women who don't fit in this box, but they're usually cluster-b headcases or sexual assault survivors. This isn't a moral judgement, it's a fact of nature. There isn't anything that would make any man with options and that has any amount of alpha traits choose the arrangement you are describing. There are plenty of men with one side open relationships, myself included. There is no benefit to a man being in a mutually open rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:53 PM
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This is such a standard trope around here I started a subreddit /r/BluePillWifeBeaters So that I could say that blue pill men beat their wives. It's such a stupid argument too. Like some men want women to wear high heels and step on their balls. Some people actively try to get infected with HIV\AIDS, they're called bug chasers. But do you really need to say "not everyone doesn't want to get AIDS?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:31 PM
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Why do other women don't threaten your relational stability? That's the most important question. It's not about the out of wedlock sex, is about men's egos. Because it's inseparable from status. When a woman sleeps with other men it's because they're better than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:14 PM
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How is this demeaning? It's reality. You can't on one hand talk about "what child birth does to a woman" and then blame men for "ruining a woman's body" and actively ignore what a teenage woman's body looks like compared to a 30 year old woman's. I didn't come here to brag, but she looks great for 30. She's aged outstanding. I tell her I think she's beautiful all the time and that's how I truly feel. We also own some older "niche" cars. Cars that other people don't generally find that remarkable…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:11 PM
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Because those dudes missed the boat. I'd be disgusted to have to date 30 year old women and treat it like I hit the jackpot. I scooped mine up formally at 19, we had a few dates going back to teenage years but I'm in my late 30s now. It's what makes the hard work, conflict and sacrifice worth it. You can tolerate A LOT by getting paid "up front." If I had met her at 30, and she was "ready to settle down" that deal is absolutely stomach turning to me. Do I miss her 19 year old body? Sure. In the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 03:16 PM
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they're not gonna act on fleeting instincts The vast majority of women would say this until they're stuck in a marriage with a husband they don't want to fuck. That's why MRP exists. Because you can't negotiate attraction. It's what the 7 year itch is. It's evolution coming in to give your wife a push. All you're doing is separating the trainwrecks from neurotypical women. So what if the first one gets divorced because she gets pinched in a drug deal and the second one gets divorced because "you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 03:03 PM
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95% of the time it's just lazy and semi related. e.g. You can say that AF\BB applied to men is stripper vs karen or something like that. But it misses all the important details. e.g. That men who are in the BB paradigm aren't viscerally attractive like men in the AF paradigm, generally. So what? The stripper is a lot hotter than becky\karen, right? Yeah, sure, but men aren't as discerning (wide arousal windows). This is how ALL of these topics shake out when you go "yeah but X do it too." It ALW…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 03:00 PM
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I wonder, If you let your girlfriend/wife fuck other women, are you weak? I've been trying to get mine to do it for 15 years. Also something I sought out with women, but in general most openly bisexual women are low FTO, low status, usually mentally ill etc. That's reality, you don't want to believe it, but it's true. Fetlife and all those types of places are jammed with women with attachment issues and cluster-b types. NPD, BPD, HPD. Normal women aren't engaging in this type of stuff. These are…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 02:51 PM
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This is the same NAWALT this post is based on. There aren't women who aren't hypergamous. That's the point I was making, which is fundamental, rule 1 RP stuff. It's why it's my flare. If you think there are women who are different, you're not red pilled. The reason why most guys even land at TRP is because they start to realize most women aren't different (all women are like that). And then we start to get them to understand why. (hypergamy)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 02:47 PM
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You're just stuffing words in my mouth. It's pretty much the most annoying thing about you. You make some bizarre cryptic assumption about what I think and rather than ask or confirm you just assert it and abandon the discussion. I'm tired of trying to correct you. What have I abandoned? Evolution isn't even a thing that has anything to gain or to lose. It's like saying temperature cares about molecular kinetics. Or that entropy cares about disorder. It's completely backwardsthink. Nothing more …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 02:45 PM
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Depends on what you mean. If good judgement means "finding the right woman, who is NAWALT" then no. I don't buy the idea that any sizeable number of men, who aren't either players or very high SMV are naturally red pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 02:33 PM
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This is sort of hilarious. But I can assure you, the vast majority of men who show up at TRP do so because they weren't pursuing shallow relationships. It's because they were the guy getting dumped and cheated on and finally had enough of "just be yourself." They knew something didn't smell right. The reason why "choking on the pill" is a thing is because most of these men don't want what we're selling them. They don't understand there is no silver bullet. That's why they hate things like She's …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 02:20 PM
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Destroys your social standing, makes paternity ultra uncertain, shows you're weak and feminine the list goes on forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:06 AM
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Therefore we have no need to control men's sexuality Mmmhmm. So women don't worry about men cheating now. Don't mind sharing. Aren't worried about sluts and don't slut shame. k.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:01 AM
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Well I don't think people start LTR hating each other and I also don't think the hating each other is caused by female biology. Right, well if that was the case then gay men would have the same frequency level of deadbedrooms. They don't. There IS some sort of communication argument, but it's a reach. You can say "well, men don't understand subcommunication." But that's a reach in itself. I have little sympathy for people who aren't capable or willing to state clearly their problem. TBH I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 03:41 AM
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I'm just speaking about the phenomenon, not the community, but that's great. But it doesn't stand to RP scrutiny. Women absolutely hate men and fuck them all the time. The functions aren't related, just only feels that way to men who don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 03:13 AM
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Actually, I've said explicitly the opposite. They say they're doing what she asks, but their actions show that they are in fact ignoring their wives. There's tons of men who will do that, it makes no difference. Whether or not you do the dishes or stop some idiosyncratic concern is irrelevant. The issue is always deeper. What does a woman actually expect in return for duty sex? It's not fidelity or a workaholic. I think we need to create a seperate term for what I'm talking about, because I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:37 PM
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Same thing, fuck those guys. If you're not in the game, get lost. If you're in the game, and men\women are shit because of XYZ, so be it. Love is war and all that. But fuck these keyboard warrior femcel, incel, mgtow whatevers. You're not in the game, your opinion shouldn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:01 PM
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I'm not using anything of his, these are conclusions we've come to independent. I literally could not get through the book he wrote, it was awful. True, but generally speaking attraction existed at some point in the relationship. Right, but don't handwave this. First it was men being the issue, now you don't want address it happening to lesbians. Gays have libido mismatches, but rarely if ever is there a "dead bedroom." You can rebrand and reframe it all you want. But men don't generally have pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:55 PM
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No, the failure point is poor communication and conflict resolution skills. Come on, man. You can't negotiate attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:58 PM
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If your view of men as being "idiots" was correct lesbian bed death wouldn't be a thing. Because women would already know exactly what men are doing wrong and intrinsically do the right thing. The failure point is A woman's biology (fickle arousal\narrow arousal window) A woman's lack of ability to introspectively understand this (which I believe is by design) So you can completely remove men from the equation and the same thing happens. It's also why naturals get put through the grinder too. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:55 PM
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Same. I mean we live together, I don't see how this would change if you're having the amount of sex you actually want to have. But then again she's "essential" so that probably plays into it. IDK, it would probably only change when. Twice a day is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:16 PM
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Who cares? Men and women aren't the same, you trying to make this a "logic" gotchya or something? Either she's ugly not attractive enough or he's a beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:15 PM
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Right, rules are for betas. It means something more like “attracted to one (bb), VERY attracted to the other (af). And it’s definitely not just a female “strategy”. It's not conscious. It's more like "he's not viable for a relationship." It's just like most men are smart enough not to wife up a stripper, even though she's more "AF." And those that are do the same thing, they make exceptions on the rules. They let her sleep around, bring home STDs, drag his name through the mud etc. Are you new h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:54 PM
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But I have a question for you: Let's assume your transactional framework is reality and that women think swapping duty sex for a man's fidelity is an even exchange. What does she get in exchange for her own fidelity? I'm not saying it's an even exchange. I'm pointing out she enters this covert contract with good intentions. I'm pointing out these men follow their wives direction, with good intentions. This is easy on men, hard on women. You say women do this to grow closer, I agree. But there's …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:28 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28gvMM8KXm4 RIP PATRICE
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:48 PM
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Who cares, a vessel doesn't change the point Atlas made.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:44 PM
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You say potato....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:30 PM
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I think you're missing the bigger take away I was really trying to drive home. Which is that duty sex for a woman is a much larger sacrifice. I mean for you, monogamy is almost zero sacrifice. I think the sacrifice difference between hypergamy not being satisfied is a larger sacrifice. And I think relationship conflict shows that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:29 PM
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where they're like "fine I guess I'll just kill myself" Why would you ever base your feelings, life or thoughts off of mentally ill incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 12:24 AM
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Why don't you think women can be sexually satiated? I do. That's not the same as "the best" though. From what I can understand, that is a similar feeling to our wandering eye. Does the wandering eye mean you're destined to cheat? No. But where I do think there are differences is how easy it is to maintain the position of "good enough" for a woman. Divorce stats and relationship forums in general seem to corroborate that. That's all MRP is, it's basically hypergamy management. So the question is,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 12:21 AM
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Men and women aren't the same. Women don't have wide arousal windows.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:11 PM
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It more or less comes down to this. Both will be preoccupied by these realities. Men wanting to be with other women constantly, women wanting the best constantly. But for men, it's an easy trade off. Which is he gets a steady supply of one woman. His body barely cares, even if his mind tries to motivate him. And since men don't have women beating their door down, much less of an issue. Whereas how do women feel about being with a guy who is just average? There's a lot to unwind here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:00 PM
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My point is beside all that. It is that we are meat machines, no matter which way you look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:12 PM
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Do women really tolerate men who don't satisfy their hypergamous instincts at all though? How many women tolerate a man incapable of arousing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:39 PM
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Now you move on to the compromise. It's my personal opinion that men can more easily make that compromise (since from their body's perspective, having a LTR is something like a boring harem). Where as a woman can't really compromise here at all. It's more like she "tolerates" it. But I agree in a way and should find a way to state that better and account for these things. The argument is made for male readers and can use finesse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:38 PM
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I mean we know enough that you can end it, lending credibility to crudely calling it a meat machine. Put your hands around someone's neck and it turns off. That's as far as anyone saying this is thinking. The same can be true whether you think there's a higher power or not. All you're commenting on is whether the physical body has an influence from some higher power, or their presence within their body is the result of randomness and evolution (big bang, evolution etc). Does dispute a god giving…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:36 PM
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Sure, all time time. I'd call it the irrational worship of another person. I find the idea of love and pedestalizing someone inseparable. I fall easy and let myself enjoy it but I know it's just a false illusion my body is selling me. Not really any different than a movie. You sit in the chair and enjoy the story unfolding, then your phone vibrates in your pocket and for 5 seconds you remember that none of this is real and then 5 seconds later you're riding a magic carpet through the ruins of Ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 06:04 PM
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Dealing with women is like holding sand in your hand, if you try too hard you start to lose it. Why buy the cow when you can have the milk for free? Not an anology but I think it's important for men to understand, something I call "the deal." When men form relationships with women and agree to be monogamous, they agree to forgo their sexual prerogative (polygamy). But she can't ever not be hypergamous. Women enter this "deal" with good intentions and accept the "check" and it only bounces when h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:52 PM
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Incorrectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:33 PM
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Why do you take a sports car for "beat run" if you don't want to own one? Understand? Lol High mileage is use. One owner, used lots. Why do you do stuff like this? No one is talking about it this way. Just you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:23 PM
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like jordan peterson's books are pretty derivative So you didn't read any of them, gotchya.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:03 PM
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You're right about playing the game, wrong about the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:03 PM
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Oh god, you are serious. Well, that's not what men are talking about. They're talking about baggage and becoming high maintenance. Just like a high mileage vehicle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:51 PM
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huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:35 PM
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Mileage = baggage
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:35 PM
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It's not literal, are you serious...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:32 PM
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I'm not sure what this post is about because actually talking about body count is forbidden in dating. You have to ask these things in roundabout ways. e.g. "I'm looking for a woman who is more traditional."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:30 PM
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"Oh there's no way a bunch of people will come in here and admit that..." HOLY SHIT PEEPS
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:15 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:15 PM
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I haven’t come across a man better than my last partner so I’ve been happily celibate. Right, that's what we call an alpha widow. It just usually happens after a higher N. You just got alpha widowed early.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:07 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/yqn40sq.png Nope. It's a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:29 AM
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These women talk a strong game until they have a kid or even need to really think about it. What they're neglecting to mention is they'd want both sides of the equation. Meaning they'd want the bio to invest time and resources into the kid, while also "not being too invested." Honestly any woman is free to get pregnant with my load, have the kid and never contact me again. No need to "shame" me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:25 AM
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I think you're misunderstanding the process. When people arrive at a worldview, they've already had the debate you want to have. e.g. There's nothing you can say to me that's going to make me bluepill. I've already been blue pill. I went through a process of not wanting to be red pill, trying to disprove it. Went through the process of accepting it and hating its truths. Then accepted it and the truths. Then accepting it and enjoying being red pilled. (not wanting to be blue pill ever again) You…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:01 AM
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I mean straight up, the system can't work for very attractive high value men, they're too rare. They're like 1-5% of the population, they have too much market power. It's like formulating a plan to control a SMV8 Stacey. Impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:52 AM
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No. I'm saying these groups have what's called a world view. I suppose what bothers me the most is how they vilify eachother. There seems to be real hatred between some of these groups I assume this is some sort of affluenza. The human spirit has a lot of nastiness in it. We've done some great things, but most greatness is built on top of the enormous wealth and abundance we have. Third world nations are more indicative of what we are underneath it all. Animals, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:49 AM
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Finally giving an evolutionary reason as to why men would seek to control females. To be clear, it has a hypothesis. How do you think it affects rp? It doesn't at all. We already know women whore around and you need to control them or lower your investment. That's why we have rules like "she's not yours." Why I tell men to leave their kids if she wants a divorce instead of putting time and money into a failed nuclear family. OF COURSE there's a prosocial benefit to controlling women. That's why …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:44 AM
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