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Exactly. The elites love using the actions of some males that are deranged to trample on everyone's rights. Perfect example is the Patriot Act after 9/11.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:42 PM
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If you think women could do those things, they don't really depend on men then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:34 PM
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So men solve problems that men are more likely to create.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:43 PM
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Not necessarily. Countries with the lowest crime rates tend to be the ones that don't have death penalty or rarely use it. They also tend to have gentler cops that aren't known for brutality, like Korea and many nordic countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:39 PM
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that all men lose the ability to be considered protectors because some men are perpetrators. I didn't say they lose the ability to be protectors because of that. But for men, "those men over there" is a bigger issue than violent women. Dangerous women are not even a factor in these conversations. The point about natural disasters and fires is fair. But men don't have to be half the population to carry out those tasks. Most men don't do jobs in that field even at 50% of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:54 PM
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I'm mentally ill, but you can't even use logic to say why it's wrong. You resort to ad hominem because you can't defend your worldview. It's not my fault your worldview is incoherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:36 PM
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I wasn't making any should statements based on what I personally believe, I was just using their own logic against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:33 PM
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Right. Women can't survive on their own without men. Just like children can't survive without adults, and special needs adults can't survive without caretakers. Yet men still wanna screw them. In what universe is that not creepy at best?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:21 PM
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So women depend on men like children. Kinda creepy to wanna screw someone who's in that position, not noble.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:14 PM
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who gets taken more seriously could easily be culturally enforced.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:39 PM
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Anyone can merely threaten violence though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:33 PM
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it's not the media, it's literally repeating what men themselves say lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:03 PM
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if women can be just as ruthless as men, they can fend for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:00 PM
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More violence is always better? Do you think cultures with higher crime rates are "better at violence" and have better cultures too?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:59 PM
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ok. if women are ruthless and evil, they can find some way to fend for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:57 PM
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If men are "better" (nice cope lmao) at committing violence than women, it means men are a serious impediment to peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:55 PM
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Well, you did admit you don't think women are the problem, so you weren't even arguing against my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:59 PM
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You missed the point of me only addressing the ones who think women are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:48 PM
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Read carefully next time instead of trying to save face after the fact. My post: "I noticed some men online will use lesbian domestic violence stats and lesbian divorce stats to say women are the problem in relationships."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:37 PM
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Maybe learn to not respond to posts that aren't even addressing your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:10 PM
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So you don't think women are the problem? Then why respond to the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:24 PM
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Build structures like make men be the ones to raise kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:17 PM
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Do the older women who don't have kids stay liberal? I also hear about a lot of women who claim MAGA but get called out by other conservatives for still being feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:29 PM
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Aren't conservative women more likely to choose to have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:39 PM
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Well, the elites are definitely preparing for climate change if you pay attention. It's embarrassing if anyone thinks their plan to break down the federal government and create autonomous city states has nothing to do with climate change.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:35 PM
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What data?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:31 PM
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The part about Russian fathers giving their son-in-law a whip to beat their daughter with is what I read.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:51 PM
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I literally read that in a book written by an acclaimed journalist...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:36 PM
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Civilization is going to fall soon anyway due to climate change and global warming.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:33 PM
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But men said the same things about women hundreds of years ago when women were adhering to traditional gender roles. They were still considered the problem. There were even stories about Russian men giving their son-in-law a whip to beat the future wife in case she got out of line. Women were seen as constant irritants to be kept in line, even back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:30 PM
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Why do they have to? Especially if you view them that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:26 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:24 PM
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The reasons they give for women being bad partners would make them bad parents too. Why would anyone want a parent of any sex that's more illogical or crazy from monthly hormonal fluctuations? Or that doesn't wanna take accountability for anything? And part of 4B is not giving birth, so that does end a cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:22 PM
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"A straw man argument is a logical fallacy where someone distorts, exaggerates, or oversimplifies an opponent's actual stance." No, I'm not debating a particular opponent or mentioning anyone by name. I'm saying "IF you think X and Y, here is my question to you." That's not strawman. It's selecting for people who believe something, not assuming anyone's beliefs. A strawman would be: Person A: Abortion is wrong Person B: You think women should get the death penalty for abortion. That's strawman. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:13 PM
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I love how I go from incel to 4B feminist in the same sub. Nuance legend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:07 PM
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It's not strawman because I'm only speaking to the ones who think women are mentally and emotionally inferior and also want the birth rate to increase in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:59 PM
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I didn't mention communism. I agree all states have flaws because of eventual alienation. That wasn't my point though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:39 AM
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I believe the ways the system get gamed are less catastrophic in some systems. If the same people will always game the system, humans are always going to follow the greediest and most selfish to extinction. I wouldn't call that a system that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:32 AM
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Define "same." Are you saying the current people at the top have a certain bloodline and are upholding some ancient covenant that will always rule over the rest of the species?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:24 AM
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I think there's a spectrum, and some systems are closer to rewarding degeneracy than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:55 AM
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So first he was 6ft, now he's probably not 6ft? You're officially an unreliable narrator.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:20 PM
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Most guys were 6ft?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:15 PM
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You don't think him being 6ft puts him near the top genetically? What percentage of men do you think are 6ft?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:24 AM
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Dark triad traits are more common in more successful people with leadership positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:18 PM
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So women are too dumb to pick proper mates? They might as well not be allowed to consent like minors. Until they're maybe 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:33 PM
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One post I'm an incel, another post I'm a feminazi.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:17 PM
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I don't think showing signs of preselection means being an asshole. That's an extreme take.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:57 PM
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I've heard straight women say the same about men. That bending over backwards for a man means he won't value you and will cheat. And that being a bitch is the way to get a man to be all over you. Either way, this shows how cooked heterosexuality is on both ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:41 PM
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A man inheriting power from a female relative is also an example of preselection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:29 PM
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That's not a contradiction. You think women who sleep with assholes are high-quality to most people?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:13 PM
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They have hybristophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:51 PM
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Exactly. How is he gonna cheat when you're the guard?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:49 PM
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I'd say that's a more psychological thing where they know he's not going anywhere and isn't cheating on her with other women. Another reason is the idea of a tough guy that can protect her (even though it's delusional).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:44 PM
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My OP is talking about a hypothetical where only women exist and their ability to survive without men on the planet. A world of only people with 40 IQ would not turn out well. Would you say the same about a world of only women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:09 PM
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Why is protection necessary? And are women not smart enough to maintain infrastructure?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:30 PM
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So men are needed to fight wars? But war only exists because of men, and WW3 could kill everyone. Even framed like that, you make men sound like more of a burden than a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:21 PM
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Pretty much every woman with a job survived just fine before meeting their bf/husband. And these same people would say women can only do these jobs because of men. Yeah, it's most likely throughout history women in general relied on men in general for survival, hunting, and protecting the civilizations that were formed. That's not what I mean. I mean if women are so dumb compared to men that they'd die without them, it's unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:48 PM
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Being dependent on someone because they're way smarter and more skilled is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:20 PM
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That's not similar to the scenario in the OP. The person dating the wealthy person survived just fine before meeting them and during their time together. But some people claim women can't survive without men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:29 PM
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Some kids also don't think they need adults for anything, but it's still a material power imbalance if they date one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:56 AM
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Women have no bodily autonomy in a world where they die/starve without men, and men require sex. Just like humans would no longer have bodily autonomy if aliens sucked up all the oxygen from the Earth and started requiring humans suck *ahem* other things to have their monthly oxygen subscription filled. It's kinda like a fetus depending on a woman. What real autonomy does that fetus have if it dies when it splits from the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:44 PM
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So times have changed. Those same people can use that logic to justify putting women equal to men then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:28 PM
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You can find ways to survive with no job. Some people claim women can't survive without men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:26 PM
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It still means it's easy for men to trick them into having sex, theoretically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:57 PM
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Neither. If women starve without men, is the consent really that strong if it even exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:47 PM
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And you love non sequiturs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:46 PM
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Biology that causes mental insufficiency.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:44 PM
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It depends on how much dumber the person thinks women are than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:44 PM
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If women can't eat without men, I don't see how it's better. A kiddo isn't eating unless an adult brings home the bacon either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 05:06 PM
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I don't think women need men way more. I was just basing my argument on that assumption. I also don't agree it's not in men's nature to inflict pain on others. They literally have an evolutionary desire to impregnate women. Even if they don't want kids, it's subconscious bias to think of procreation. Pregnancy and childbirth are very painful. So they basically can't be straight without wanting to indirectly inflict pain on women. But to be fair, women who want to be pregnant and/or participate i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 05:05 PM
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Women are also mentally insufficient if they need men way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 04:40 PM
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Don't know. Don't ask me. I don't agree with the idea that women need men more than men need women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 04:13 PM
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And I'm sure lots of 12 year olds and adults that need caretakers due to inferior cognitive ability have adult celeb crushes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 04:12 PM
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Assuming women would all die without men is wild conjecture too!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:56 PM
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Yeah but if women can't survive without men, they're not really fully autonomous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:37 PM
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That it's unethical to screw someone who is so dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:26 PM
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What reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:23 PM
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Chill, I don't believe all heterosexual sex is rape. I only made that assumption based on the condition that women are feeble-minded compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:22 PM
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Some minors and special needs people also claim to want both of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:04 PM
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Women are not expected to have sex with family members obviously. But collectively if women need men to survive, they know they'll be cut off if they don't give them sex. Women would not get social or government support if no woman was putting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:03 PM
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Sex isn't a need. In the scenario, they're dependent on men like children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:35 PM
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Yeah, same thing that gets teachers thrown in jail for statutory rape despite some students being physically larger.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:02 PM
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Companionship and loyalty, things that kids can offer adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:45 PM
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There's nothing else women can offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:40 PM
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Do you think it's rape if someone is like "suck it or you don't get any food"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:38 PM
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I don't believe all heterosexual sex is rape because I don't believe men are mentally superior to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:37 PM
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So accept rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:28 PM
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Men should be blamed if they prey on people, not biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:30 PM
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I don't know why you keep comparing it to women wanting a man with money. That's nowhere near as disgusting as being a pedophile.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:50 PM
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So "evolution" affects a small minority of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:34 PM
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If most men aren't pedos, why would you bring up girls having their first baby at age 15 in the past? How is that relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:15 PM
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Blaming men for that isn't anti-male bigotry, it's being anti-pedo, which is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:56 PM
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Not liking pedos is anti-male bigotry now lol. That's a billion times more man-hating than anything I ever said in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:37 PM
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You already proved my point in the OP, so not much to say here. If aliens came down and said "we have a natural urge to have sex with your children," humans would want them all executed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:33 PM
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Ok. If you claim men are wired to be pedos, don't be surprised when people treat them like wild animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:19 PM
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That doesn't retroactively make all men throughout history pedophiles Under 18 is a child. That is pedophilia. You're doing the thing I talk about in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:25 PM
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For men, it goes way beyond biology having an influence. They claim they're wired to be a certain way because they're male. I've also never seen a person be victim blamed for dying in a mass shooting. But women get victim-blamed for rape as if men are animals and can't control themselves. There are whole religions created by men that blame women for tempting men as if men are wild animals. It's coming straight from the horse's mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:23 PM
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It's not one to one because green people never blame biology. Never seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:19 PM
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It's not my fear. I never said I'd pick bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:46 PM
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It is proof when that same text has stories punishing underage rape victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:26 PM
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They don't collect data on that, but anyone can observe it's quite rare. Just like you don't have to count each individual star to know there are tons of them up there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:20 PM
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It'd have to be just as rare as a person being victim blamed for being murdered in a mass shooting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:02 PM
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Enough have to oppose them to make victim-blaming an extremely rare occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:57 PM
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And the religious texts billions of people follow cancel that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:55 PM
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It's pervasive enough that most people who've been SA'd have experience with being blamed for it if a guy did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:53 PM
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I've heard religious people say this about men liking fertility, and most people in the world are religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:47 PM
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If men are wired to go after youth and fertility, underage is also better as long as she is fertile.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:37 PM
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They went crazy putting words in my mouth. The conclusion is literally just "stop blaming biology for men's fuckups" and I still got people trying to argue. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:09 PM
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So you agree that men are constantly saying younger is better?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:22 PM
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You need links proving men saying they're wired to like youth and fertility? Are you serious? You never heard that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:13 PM
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After all, some of those males questioned would have been Green. I never seen a green person blame their race for attraction to minors. I've only seen them blame men's desire for youth and fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:12 PM
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We're getting away from the point of the post. The point is that I've never seen a racial minority blame biology. But I have seen men blame biology. It doesn't have to be every single man for the conditions to be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:28 PM
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I've heard plenty. Especially red pillers, which is where I first heard the talking point I addressed in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:08 AM
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Based on religions men created and follow to this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:40 AM
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Men generalized themselves first by claiming it's women's fault for tempting them. Others are repeating a narrative they created.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:31 AM
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Men are the ones who invite more intense bigotry by blaming their flaws on biology. They use biology to justify statutory rape in particular by claiming men like youth and fertility, no matter how old he is. And that they're more likely to have age-gap relationships due to biology. Minors can be young and fertile too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:04 AM
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I said nothing about hate. And stop pretending to care about black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:49 PM
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But leftists never blame biology. They blame conditions that can be changed. Here's a number: Child marriage is legal in over 30 states, and most child marriage is adult male and underage female. There are elected officials using biology to justify impregnating minors. This one who says teens are biologically ripe and fertile to justify child marriage. https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-lawmaker-arguing-against-raising-marriage-age-says-teens-are-ripe-fertile-5607449 Men say they're naturally at…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:45 PM
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The answer is no. They don't blame biology, so that has nothing to do with the point I was making in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:36 PM
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Have you ever seen one of them blame biology for it like some men blame biology for attraction to minors?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:28 PM
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I did answer it. Reread the response.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:24 PM
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I've never seen robbing and stealing be blamed on biology by anybody in a minority group. But some men blame biology for attraction to minors.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:21 PM
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Yep, confirms men commit more crime than women of all races.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:20 PM
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As long as they're separate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:07 PM
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Do they claim it's a biological reason that's always existed?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:06 PM
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When sexes are separate data categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:01 PM
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It wouldn't be good data because green people includes males.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:53 PM
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It's wrong when there are no green people that are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:48 PM
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The reason racism is a stronger moral offense in society is because many men think biology is an excuse for misogyny, similar to the point I was getting at in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:47 PM
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Green people can be male too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:44 PM
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Where'd you get 0.02% from?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:10 PM
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Those types don't even see discrimination against men as a real problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:04 PM
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underprivileged people in society People who think it's considered ok to discriminate against men but not other groups do see men as underprivileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:49 PM
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You have stated nothing Then what did you read just then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:37 PM
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I just stated a solution, but you dismissed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:03 PM
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I don't know the exact number.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:59 PM
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That was the main point of my post though: "People who insert other groups into the "man vs bear" argument are inconsistent"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:56 PM
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Many people don't even know what rape is. The culture of blaming the victim will be less prevalent if people have a clear idea of boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:55 PM
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The evopsych redpillers tend to be the main ones that drag minority groups down with them in the man vs bear thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:49 PM
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https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/millions-of-men-would-sexually-abuse-children-if-secrecy-was-sure-ncf9lx5v7?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqdMw8ZTpaGwWf8KyALXhG_WPk0iKteLGM0DhTq2Pp_b-4FztYisS0mt7_Y3QlI%3D&gaa_ts=69a32991&gaa_sig=omQvsfjCwigX0n3aTQ62mG8iCSywqcnP2SOia46ZmBaR2I6JoIQdTkuLP8_iD1W1STijupwLV3LUMf5Ch57xtQ%3D%3D
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:30 PM
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It's not a small group of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:23 PM
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You could reread the comment then. We said two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:20 PM
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I don't agree with comparing men to wild animals. But I agree that there are enough men who portray themselves that way for it to make sense for some women. I don't agree that it's a small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:20 PM
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I answered it. I don't know what more you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:18 PM
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That's not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:14 PM
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When victim-blaming SA victims is no longer prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:13 PM
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Because they wouldn't compare men to wild animals if there weren't so many men who blame biology for being sexual predators. They started it, so call them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:08 PM
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Not that all or even most men would sexually assault a woman. But some men still claim that most men have to suppress the urge to SA and thirst over minors due to biology, even if they don't actually do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 04:42 PM
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Thanks for explaining without pretending to care about minorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 04:38 PM
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There is a nonzero chance of overlap because people have logically inconsistent positions all the time. I first heard this talking point on a redpill podcast, and they love using evopsych to justify men's behavior. The idea of SA being the victim's fault for tempting the perpetrator is widespread throughout society. I never heard of an individual majority-group person being grilled on what they wore or "why they were in that part of town anyway" before they got mugged or carjacked by a minority-…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 04:33 PM
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That would be really concerning if it were a shameless lie. It was posted on History.com and Sage. Like I said, take it up with them for posting woke propaganda, not me. They have way bigger platforms and responsibilities than me. Moving on. The Montgomery case was not about paternity fraud, so I'm not sure what this is. Intent to cause harm When people abort, the intent isn't to cause harm. It's to not be pregnant anymore. Women who induced FASD/FAS by accident are a minority of a minority of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:44 PM
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random dead soldiers link out of nowhere What? this warrants even more lengthy sentence Any lawyer worth anything would just use the trauma from the alleged rape as an excuse for her to not report. The alleged rape trauma would probably also be used to explain "erratic behavior" and shorten the sentence to probation. As restraining pregnant women and bossing them around is not among my fetishes to fixate on this thought Because you don't think abortion is actually a violent crime. If someone bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:23 PM
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There are plenty of important people in history who went unnamed. She knew she fucked someone other than her husband without sufficient contraception in a manner that can result in pregnancy It'd still be pointless to pursue. You think a person who'd do that is somehow above lying about the real father being a rapist to avoid accountability/serving a lengthy prison sentence? The potential explosion in false rape allegations alone would make that a nightmare for the courts. Are you putting aborti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:23 PM
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You should probably expose this mainstream history site for woke racist "we wuz kangz" propaganda in the title then. It's above me now. You might even win a lawsuit against them in this political climate. Source for Akan women (same tribe Onesimus was likely from) sharing knowledge about this practice. Akan women laboring in the Caribbean instructed plantation owners that variolation was a medical technique used on the Gold Coast (modern Ghana) to inoculate children with infectious matter from y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:54 PM
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The enslaved man (Onesimus) learned it from his elders as a kid. He never specified the sex of those elders. But in Africa and the Ottoman Empire, the practice of variolation was associated with women healers. Claiming women 100% had nothing to do with that is a hasty assumption. I ignored the paternity fraud number because there's no reason to throw anyone in prison for that when hospitals could just do DNA tests at birth to prevent the potential "crime" from happening in the first place. It wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:08 AM
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It was elder female healers in the Ottoman empire who gave them the idea to create the smallpox vaccine. So no, it wasn't just men. Even with that increase, it still doesn't outnumber the male prison population. Again, avoiding my questions because you can't justify your worldview. It's not about giving women free shit. You can't even make up reasons to consider women abominable criminals at the same rate as men. Men would still be at least 75% of the worst criminals, even in your scenario. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:41 AM
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So that would be an extra 26,000-30,000 women being punished for direct damage to a fetus a year. Is that increase high enough for women to be the new majority of the prison population? No, especially when many of them are only doing a month or two of correctional labor. It wasn't just men involved in eradicating smallpox according to Google. Lady Mary Wortley Montagu (1689–1762) played a pivotal role in introducing smallpox inoculation to Western medicine after witnessing the practice in the Ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:59 PM
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Most women vaguely claim feminist. There's a difference. And "somewhat well" (42%) makes up a much bigger chunk of those so-called feminists in that link, like I suspected. I bet the same amount wouldn't say being against racism or child rape describes them only "somewhat." Should abortion have any real punishment, since you don't think it's murder? Or do you think men's actions are way more harmful and actually worth throwing them in prison over? You think women drain the system, destroy societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:11 PM
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Most women are not feminist, and it's good you admit you don't know. Abortion is the government's purview too, and you brought that up. If a man's wife tries gets an abortion against his wishes, do you think he should be able to use force to defend his "kid"? Deadly force?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:39 PM
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You admit physical harm is worse? And that men are more likely to do the worse kind of harm to you? I asked what you think, not people who read and write feminist theory. And one more reason some people would think males are worse. Where do the tears come from? The government doesn't consider abortion equal to homicide either, so why bring up the government now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:57 PM
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Why did you ignore non-physical harm? Do you really think women being harassed by lesbians is better? If it's just as bad as being harassed by a man, safety alone isn't a good reason to not let adult men share a bathroom with little girls as well. The "seeing anyone in tears" part makes it seem like you think men do more emotional harm to women than vice versa. Abortion is murder by your standard. By your logic the death penalty can include abortion in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:19 PM
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Do you think women have an equal chance of harming you (and any man) without outside intervention in general? If so, do you think males and females should share the same bathrooms and locker rooms? So you think abortion is just as bad as homicide? Does that mean you think any woman who gets an abortion should get the death penalty?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:33 PM
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You're the one who brought up abortion first. How many abortions do you think is worth one homicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:45 AM
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More than half when you add surgical abortions performed by women. I said it varied depending on the study in a previous comment. Men don't have a 100% chance of paying taxes they didn't consent to if 13.6% of them are out of employment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:30 AM
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85% of 60% would be about half. It could be an equal split depending on region. Do women not also pay taxes they didn't consent to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:44 AM
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It is definitely clear that no one actually thinks women are just as bad, even the ones who say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:04 PM
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A large chunk of abortion doctors (ranging from 39%-74% depending on the study) are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:48 PM
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Sounds like it balances out. You kinda proved my point then: "Most people who claim women are just as bad as men do not navigate society as if they actually believe it." It doesn't seem like you navigate the world as if men and women have an equal chance of killing you without outside intervention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:40 PM
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I've seen some take a pro-life stance just so they can claim women are more violent via abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:40 PM
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That's your measuring stick, but people conveniently shift what "dangerous" means in these debates to protect their own egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:36 PM
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Where in the table does it show dollar-for-dollar benefit overcontribution by men? And how do you know men fund those specific categories? And that women's contributions don't cover their benefits? What calculations are you using? Yes, weakness isn't virtue. But a woman can still do damage on her own using weapons, no institution or simps needed. A gun is enough. Both men and women can carry various weapons. That's why it's interesting you brought up men in the woman's example when a woman can g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:33 PM
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I'd say money and the state's guns are pretty neat measurable standard. What unit are you using? Yes, I recognize the existence of simps. If I see a woman, I don't know if she is going to leverage her institutional power and summon her simps to make my life worse. If I see a man, I don't know if he is a simp. Thus, I am wary of both Institutional power=benevolent patriarchy. Simp=male. Even when claiming women are equally threatening, the scenario you used for the woman requires men acting on he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:31 AM
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Yeah, but I never said all men thought like that. Just certain types.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:38 PM
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Ok. Thanks for proving my point that it stems from jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:06 PM
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So you don't think some men are jealous that "women have more of a choice"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:13 PM
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Ok. This stance is still a sign of jealousy though, so it doesn't go against my main point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:21 PM
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So it's just as bad when men knock them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:44 AM
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Two people make a child, not one. The only exception is rape. Consenting adults know the risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:44 AM
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A man can choose to only have sex with women he'd have a baby with. Or choose to not have sex at all. Or freeze sperm and get snipped. Those are choices. It's not force unless there was rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:51 PM
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No, a man is not forced into whatever decision. He has options. He can use a condom and spermicide. He can also freeze his sperm and then get a vasectomy. There are options.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:20 AM
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Ok. Then those men aren't jealous then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:30 PM
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Sexuality is all over the place, so power can't be the only non-physical thing to turn someone on. But do these men call the men who do knock up a bunch of women the reason why society is going downhill too?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:07 PM
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So that means looks is not the only factor in male arousal. They are jealous if they don't judge men just as much for the same behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:05 PM
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How many men actually have harems? Most want to but can't. That's where the vagina envy comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:20 PM
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She still has to look good enough to make his dick hard. *Laughs in men raping women they consider subhuman.* I'm still sticking to the point that it's much easier for a woman to punch way up in looks and status in her sexual encounters than for a man to do the same thing. Which they envy. Although I admit I exaggerated in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:17 PM
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Meaning the men who knocked her up are just as bad? They don't say it, but they often do just that when they're in a position to. They do this by having harems or being sperm donors.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:10 PM
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According to redpillers, men are willing to lower physical and social standards to get laid. And sometimes they lower standards for placeholder girlfriends and chicks they're just casually dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:07 PM
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Getting called both simp and incel in the span of a few weeks is peak nuance and a sign of enlightenment. Thanks for the compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:01 PM
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There are cases where they already had relationships or even marriages but it didn't work out. Men want multiple mothers for their kids too. That's why so many (95%) get rejected for sperm donation. It's much harder for men to spread their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:11 PM
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Men assume that themselves when they claim women can easily get knocked up by Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:07 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:07 PM
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Would you say the men who knock them up are failures too?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:07 PM
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I said disproportionately. Do you judge those women more than the men who knock them up?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:05 PM
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First study: I don't see any numbers. Study linked in second link: doesn't specify female vs male subjects in the videos they watch and doesn't compare concordance to men's. Third study: This link has numbers and specifies more. But your point was that women's concordance was closer to the level of men's when using different measures. How am I supposed to compare women's concordance of .55 (when using temperature) when they don't provide an equivalent number (genital temp) for males? Fourth: No …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 10:10 PM
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Men would still bang women who are not models because they actually have way more inherent attraction to women's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:33 PM
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If the attraction was equal, they'd be ok having sex with orbiters and wouldn't need to pick the hottest guys to bang.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:14 PM
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Can you show studies saying women's concordance is similar to men's when using clitoral data? Because ChatGPT fact check said otherwise: 4. Claim: Women are as concordant as men if clitoral arousal is measured Not conclusively supported. Sexual concordance — the correlation between genital signs and subjective arousal — tends to be higher in men than in women on average when using standard measures of genital response. PubMed Some research suggests that certain genital measures (including those …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:52 AM
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But wife beating was more common and more accepted when men were more "traditionally masculine."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:30 PM
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It was deregulated before patriarchy too, when humans were hunter/gather nomads.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:05 PM
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It would increase men's attraction but indirectly. Women with more resources can afford better maintenance and can afford to do things to make themselves more physically attractive. There's a reason women who live in upscale neighborhoods look better than women who live in a trailer park or ghetto. Also, the female celebs who are considered very hot not because of status only but the beauty rituals that status gives them access to. You could argue that most cultural beauty standards for women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:45 PM
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Do you know the difference between prescriptive and descriptive?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:01 PM
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I didn't think anyone who could read would take away from this post that it's women's fault they inherently don't experience sexuality the way men do....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:47 PM
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Women would compete for status or power if attraction was equal though. That would make men more hypergamous because they could demand more. How does that explain so many so-called straight women liking lesbian porn though? And women are only more affected by those qualities because of the inherent lack of interest in men's actual bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:39 PM
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You know you're a based realist when you keep getting called incel and feminazi in the same exact subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:38 PM
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Try rereading the post if you're confused. I don't know what else to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:30 PM
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If women found most men hot enough to bend over backwards like that, there would be fewer complaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:29 PM
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Because they put the blame on feminism and not biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:21 PM
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No, women's lack of attraction to men is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:16 PM
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True, younger women have more freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:14 PM
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Because feminism wouldn't even be a thing if men never spend thousands of years brutalizing women via patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:12 PM
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Good point, but it could change the dynamic and make poly relationships way more common on both sides. There would be fewer hurt feelings and jealousy because both can get a lot of action on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:11 PM
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For black men, they can lean on exotic foreigner with money thing and the BBC stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:06 PM
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They complain because patriarchy suppressed women's ability to pick for so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:59 PM
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Being a billionaire in a high-level politician's ear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:56 PM
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How can a society be gynocentric if women are under authoritarian control? Who enforces that authoritarian control? What are those psychological differences that are incompatible with social feminism? Which ones do men on social media complain about? If men and women had equal sexual attraction to each other, do you think they would operate more similarly before and after sex? Do you think there'd be more of a mutual understanding since both want the same thing in a similar time frame?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:52 PM
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No, but I study them as a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:40 PM
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I used that wording because it describes how elites probably see women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:30 PM
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I never said it was *objectively bad*. Something can be bad to others but not in general. I wasn't debating what we're supposed to say to these men, but I think it's best to educate young people of both sexes about how men and women experience attraction differently. It should be done in a delicate way without blaming anybody. The fact that this research is so hidden to begin with is doing everyone a disservice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:29 PM
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I never said it was bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:20 PM
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But before, women could use the excuse of patriarchy being much more oppressive as the reason for the lack of attraction. Now that we still have patriarchy but it's become much more benevolent, the reasoning just looks more like sheer lack of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:15 PM
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I doubt men who get cooch thrown at them constantly care about this either. They either don't care or they can find women who desire them enough to pick one side because he demands it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:10 PM
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No, I didn't say that in my post at all. I just said freedom just exposed that women and men aren't equally attracted to each other and never were.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:54 PM
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But in both cases, gays and lesbians are dating/behaving like they do have same-sex soulmates. So the result is the same: same-sex relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:08 PM
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Anyone who would skip over lesbians to compare gay sons to thot daughters instead likely thinks gay is worse for males.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:48 PM
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It is homophobic, but it can be judgmental of letting males smash outside of family-building too. Two things can be true at once. But why do you think a son being gay is worse than a daughter being gay to these guys if it's solely about homophobia?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:16 PM
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It is homophobic, but it can be judgmental of letting males smash outside of family-building too. Two things can be true at once. But why do you think a same-sex soulmate is worse for a man than a woman to these guys if it's solely about homophobia?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:09 PM
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A man having to "earn" something a woman gets by existing makes the man inferior in a sexual context specifically (not necessarily overall).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:37 PM
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That still implies men are inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:22 PM
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I said mostly though, not always. Your list doesn't cover most genocides that ever happened in history. It's mostly white people, and most people in the world aren't white.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:13 PM
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How is asking a question ahistorical though? I wasn't making a falsifiable statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:09 PM
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Social or religious norms, both of which see men as disposable and capable of tainting someone's value according to patriarchal conditioning. Thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:07 PM
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What's ahistorical about what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:02 PM
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I don't know because I haven't had sex with all groups listed. So if disowning is racist for that reason, why is disowning your kid for having non-procreative sex with males not sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:00 PM
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I didn't want a whole essay, just a brief explanation. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:58 PM
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Do you think it's racist if a parent disowns their kids for having sex with black people?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:53 PM
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What genocides did they start? And what role did they play in starting them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:51 PM
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If it were only about uncommitted sex being bad, why not compare thot son and thot daughter?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:48 PM
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The reason why they think sex with men is bad is because they see men as inferior. So inferior that non-procreative sex with them ruins a person's value so much that they see their own child as worthless if they're a thot or gay male.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:47 PM
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Name the women whose idea it was to exterminate these groups and their ideological influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:42 PM
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My post did not address monogamy. It answered a question you asked about patriarchy, not monogamy. And you couldn't debunk anything I said in my post, so you pivoted to something else. You could have just thanked me for educating you. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 04:42 PM
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*Cracks knuckles* Time to school you. Organized patriarchy springing up all over the world doesn't mean it's a sign of any underlying biological wiring. It means that's how humans' cultures reacted to changes in their material conditions. Before the neolithic revolution, when nomadic hunter/gather lifestyles were dominant, women and men contributed a roughly equal percentage to the food supply in most tribes. Men did do big game hunting using their strength, but it was infrequent and not enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 12:29 AM
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So consenting to sex is not an action? So the majority of men see it that way, meaning the majority look down on women when having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:54 PM
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"Can get pregnant" unless they get their tubes burnt and freeze their eggs. Or use multiple forms of birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:46 PM
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So a man risking child support and having raw sex just because a woman has huge boobs and hershey kiss nips may be considered too easy to some people too. A lot of women get raped by men they date, so that may explain celibacy journeys. For no sex before marriage, that's usually driven by religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:30 PM
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That's pretty much saying men are parasites.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:20 PM
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There are differences. One difference is men are more disgusted by members of the same sex than women are. That's why so much genocide, war, and torture of other groups was driven by men. The hate men have for each other goes deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:19 PM
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It's not always no strings attached though. Sometimes they end up owing child support, so men being easy is pretty life-altering too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:15 PM
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Organized patriarchy where women's bodies were restricted only existed for a small percentage (around 5%) of human history though. So it wasn't hundreds of thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:13 PM
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A woman wanting a certain income doesn't mean she thinks other women are gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:10 PM
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False equivalence. The felon, cop, and lawyer roles are all choices. A person's decisions led them to that route. A person cannot choose their race or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:04 PM
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So men are inferior because they're easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:01 PM
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No, consensual sex is active for both parties. Both people involved choose to have sex. If humans look down on submission and you see women having sex as inherently submissive, doesn't that mean any woman a man fucks (virgin or not), he'll look down on her?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:53 PM
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But there's proof you're wrong on Amazon lol: https://www.amazon.com/AffinityDNA-Paternity-DNA-Testing-Kit/dp/B00577WBBW
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:45 PM
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So by that logic, men are inferior to women because they require way less effort to fuck than women on average?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:41 PM
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Why is fucking a bunch of people not poor impulse control for both sexes? And using that same logic, wouldn't women's potential to be more promiscuous make them superior to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:40 PM
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Aren't some up to 100% accurate?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:28 PM
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The DNA test can confirm it's your kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:21 PM
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Just overall misanthropy from not feeling loved and accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:16 PM
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Men do have paternal certainty now that DNA tests exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:14 PM
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Yes they can. If you're worried the baby isn't yours and you married a bop, all you have to do is take a paternity test. All the anxiety goes away with knowledge. Plus, thots get locked down by wealthy men all the time these days. So there are many "high-value" men who don't have that instinct anymore. That's because they're rational enough to trust modern medicine over caveman instincts. They didn't get rich by being dummies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:11 PM
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Birth control is also new.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:07 PM
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If the person is voicing those preferences based on the thoughts in my OP, there is logic behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:01 PM
2

We have DNA tests now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:01 PM
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Many redpillers use language like ran through and used up. Basically saying they're gross for dealing with many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:00 PM
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The post addresses individuals with these conflicting beliefs. I wasn't commenting on what women like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:56 PM
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Refreshing honesty, whether you're joking or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:55 PM
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Depends on the logic behind those preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:55 PM
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People imply women are dirty or gross for screwing a bunch of men all the time. That means men are dirty by proxy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:52 PM
0

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:50 PM
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JP Rushton claimed black people have higher sex drives. Dog person isn't a bad stereotype. And black people are stereotyped for being obnoxious and tough. Also, rough living? Ever heard mudhut jokes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:35 PM
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JP Rushton claimed black people have higher sex drives. Dog person isn't a bad stereotype. Black people are stereotyped for toughness and obnoxious behavior by racists too. Living rough? Ever heard the mudhut and tribe jokes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:31 PM
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All of those have been blamed on a person being black before.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:28 PM
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Racists claim black people have higher sex drives, which includes both of those things. I hear racists say BW are cheaters and promiscuous all the time. Look up Jezebel stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:27 PM
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why does the majority of women, who were probably victims of sexual abuse, still engage in any kind of sex? They engage in non-PIV sex that feels pleasurable. The PIV is "payment" for that pleasure so the man gets something in return. But the reason for PIV not being pleasurable could be based on society seeing women as pieces of meat/fleshlights. Also, sperm has mood-influencing chemicals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:22 PM
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I know, but one person thinking they're in a committed relationship while the other person doesn't see it that way is another version of loneliness. Men enjoying oral/manual sex and orgasming from it are two different things. The consensual relationship often includes unsatisfying PIV, which is what men crave the most. Maybe if more women worked on their sexual trauma or had less of it, they'd find a way to enjoy such a key part of heterosexual relationships (PIV) more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:45 PM
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That sounds like most women think they're in a relationship but are being pumped and dumped in one-sided situationships. Basically a different version of a loneliness epidemic. Nah, P in the V is the evolutionary force that drives men's thirst. Meanwhile, only around 20% of women c*m primarily from penetration. Women's clits experience way more sensation than PIV. At best, it feels ok or good enough compared to clitoral stimulation but not orgasm-inducing (so basically blue ovaries). At worst, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:17 PM
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If most straight women are in relationships, that means most straight men are also in relationships. So does that mean there's no male loneliness epidemic? I don't know if that means they desire penetrative sex with men. How often do women c*m from penetrative sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:22 PM
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Enough pearl-clutching. Rape and sex trafficking are both caused by lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:56 AM
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"Many people" kek Sure, the few people who replied. This post has way less engagement than usual for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:25 PM
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"with no threat of violence" isn't in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:17 PM
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I mean, I didn't lose since no one is data-driven in their response like I suggested. Just giving their personal opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:18 PM
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Remember you also have a lot of other privileges that come along with being desirable. Do you have any data indicating that most women even feel lucky to be desirable or even orgasm from the type of sex men seek from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:16 PM
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So were female slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:14 PM
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There were different levels to the analogies. I thought it was a decent amount of diversity. *shrugs* Women online say their attention peaked in middle school or high school all the time. Plus, SA is alarmingly common.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:39 AM
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"which goes beyond the discussion of sexual attention." No it doesn't because there are cases where lust is used as an excuse to rob someone of their safety and freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:11 AM
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I said people who hate you, not undesirable people. Both undesirable and desirable people can hate-rape someone. Ted Bundy was considered conventionally attractive and raped and killed his victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:53 PM
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You can't be that rational because if you were, you wouldn't waste all this time typing up a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 09:23 PM
1

Then that means predators are everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 09:11 PM
1

Do the data say people get raped more by strangers or people they already know?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:58 PM
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The assumption was some people lust normally and others hate lust. For example, the sex trafficking victim could have received healthy attention before being trapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:54 PM
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In this hypothetical, both are being framed as confirmed experiences. Sorry if you misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:42 PM
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A person can get bad sexual attention anywhere in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:38 PM
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That makes no sense. One is a possibility, and the other is a confirmed experience. It makes more sense to compare two experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:33 PM
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It doesn't assume that. I never said that. I also addressed that in my post: I know many will counter this by saying, "But the good sexual attention usually outweighs the bad sexual attention, so these people people should feel happy and are privileged."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:25 PM
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You sound like a delusional obese chick from Tumblr. Not being fat or sloppy and being a healthy weight and toned is not genetics. It can be done by most people if you put down the oreos and McDonalds and hit the gym. Are you American?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:32 PM
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Being fat or out of shape and having a terrible haircut are not genetics. Improving your appearance yields much better results than staying chubby and having the same hair from the 4th grade. If 40% of women are obese, then just approach them if you want to stay fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:22 PM
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Facially, not necessarily. A nice body and great hair can make up for it, things men can fix. 40% of American men are obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:11 PM
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That can help if she's actually open to being approached by someone trying to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:02 PM
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Unless they're obviously visibly homeless, you don't know someone's status from a brief interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:17 PM
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Do you think most men are lower portion men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:11 PM
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How do you know the men are lower portion to women when you don't even know what women like?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:02 PM
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Better how?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:59 PM
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What do you think makes them lower portion men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:51 PM
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Too bad that's not most of the men approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:49 PM
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It is true that men who are way older, out of shape, or insult women for rejecting them are the lower portion of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:10 PM
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Men find most women ugly too. They called most women who got exposed on the Tea app ugly, but they were just average chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:29 PM
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Yes, there is. If a 21 year old dates a 30 year old, there is an imbalance because one can run for senate and the other can't. Even an 18 yo and 21 yo have an imbalance because one can legally drink and the other cant. I don't get how the second point is relevant to morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:45 AM
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Yes, but what makes it morally wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:50 PM
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Quote where I said rich people get alimony. But do you disagree with the title? If so, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:08 PM
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It sounds like you don't even disagree with the title of the post and are just triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:02 PM
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I was using Bezos' wealth as an example, not his ex taking half. Reread what I said. I said they had the money to do that IF they wanted to, not that they all do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 03:50 PM
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Not everyone can predict abuse. Sometimes it takes longer to spot patterns, so it's better to wait and observe them before moving in.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 03:38 PM
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You didn't address any of my points. I never said women only date wealthy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 03:37 PM
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Not liking age gap is blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 02:50 PM
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The word hypergamy existed long before RPD, late 1800s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 02:18 PM
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And most people don't date with huge age gaps or partake in drastic hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:43 PM
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Yes, that does sound suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:19 PM
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It's their choice either way, so I don't see anything morally wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:13 PM
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Divorces require lawyers on both sides, and sometimes custody is involved. There are probably plenty of ways they get out of paying alimony. I wouldn't know personally because I'm not wealthy enough to afford those kind of lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:53 PM
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If they're close in age, there are more people who see her as someone who sought him out for his wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:46 PM
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It did happen outside the U.S., so there were different laws. But ruining an ex-spouse with lengthy legal battles that only one side can afford is legal, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:39 PM
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Good luck being broke or even middle class "negotiating and navigating" with a senior portfolio manager or spoiled kid of a billionaire who's used to getting what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:37 PM
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But there are still cases where rich people will hide their assets or put it in someone else's name to avoid paying; a famous soccer player did this by sending his money and assets to his mom to prepare for a divorce in the future. The ex got nothing. Another tactic they use is making the divorce as expensive as possible and wearing down the other person's resources with legal fees until they eventually give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:29 PM
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Depends on their expenses and lifestyle. I don't think I can put a number on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:25 PM
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If a good chunk of the ones who don't pay are rich, the fact that it's only 10% just shows how good rich people are at outsmarting their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:19 PM
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And a broke person doesn't know how to protect himself/herself in a relationship with someone who could easily sue them into debt or blackball them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:10 PM
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Statistically, abuse in general is less common when you don't live with someone, no matter what type of relationship it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:08 PM
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why would you want a friend who's main interest with you is... Wanting sex out of the relationship? I don't. It's not a stretch that the type of man who would fake friendship and make a mockery out of a woman's attempts to bond would largely find women uninteresting and annoying when they don't get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 05:45 PM
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You are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:37 PM
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I get it from friendzone memes made by guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:13 PM
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For men who complain about being friendzoned, they probably see sex as a need. If the "need" is being met, they probably don't even consider it being friendzoned, even if there's no relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 10:33 PM
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In the OP, I was talking about guys who already put in work to fake friendship. That's actual friendzoning. Rejecting a man and asking to be friends upfront actually gives you a choice of whether you want to be in the friendzone. If a guy has been friends with a chick for a while and realizes he's not getting laid, then that makes her annoying to these guys who complain about being FZ.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 06:06 PM
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I said boring and annoying in the original post, so it's still a case of a man finding a woman annoying if he isn't rewarded with sex. Is it not annoying in this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:56 PM
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Exactly, and he doesn't want to be friends because he doesn't see it as worth it if no sex is involved. Both things can be true at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:38 PM
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Sure, people can do what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:29 PM
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Romantic relationships are more than sex, but sex is a key component. Hardly any people would date a person they don't find sexually appealing. On the flip side, how many of these men who complain about being friendzoned would turn down a simple FWB opportunity with no strings? Probably zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:24 PM
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Right, and in his case, he sees the investment (spending time with a female) as worth it if sex is involved. Again, I never said anyone is entitled to anything. This post is meant to be descriptive, not prescriptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:21 PM
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Yes. He can choose to invest less by only being around her in groups and not one-on-one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:11 PM
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I wouldn't say it's always manipulative or dishonest because there could be some things going on that he's not consciously aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:51 PM
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Did you mean to reply to this particular comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:39 PM
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The only solutions are to get to the root of why these emotions exist or get a relationship. My post is just attempting to explain the root.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:37 PM
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I agree no one owes anyone anything. I didn't generalize men in general, just the ones who complain about the friendzone. You're the one generalizing all men by assuming they all complain about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:05 PM
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The man's mental toll is being factored in. They like hanging out with the woman as long as sex could happen at the end. If it doesn't, it's considered a waste of time because he doesn't think she's smart or interesting like his male friends. If men can control their emotions so well like redpillers say, they should be able to handle friendship with a woman if they see her as more than just a hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:39 PM
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I agree neither owe each other anything. But if he sees it as a loss, that means he sees the friendship as an investment on his end and not something both enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:06 PM
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A person can be hurt and entitled at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:33 PM
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I'm not making a statement about what anybody should do. I'm just telling it how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:20 PM
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Yeah, being around that person may be difficult because you're not getting something you subconsciously think you deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:46 PM
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If you spend time with someone and eventually expect sex as a reward, that's entitlement, even if you don't start the friendship with that intent
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:42 PM
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You're not obligated to be her friend or the same type of friend if that feels wrong. True, but that doesn't make it less entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:36 PM
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A woman can respect a man without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:32 PM
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In the OP, I mention how men get especially pissed if they already put in the "work" of faking a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:31 PM
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I have ideas on how to construct a world where militaries are not needed. Unfortunately, whether most people will accept those ideas is questionable. 50/50 men/women military isn't the plan that's gonna work. The point is I don't believe biology is the reason why patriarchy will always exist because that's not the only path.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:00 AM
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Those politicians still have a patriarchal mindset when it comes to the military because they're up against traditional patriarchies that are much less benevolent. No politician with tact would ever say this out loud, but they know full well a 80% female army (instead of 80% male) would not be scary enough to anyone in the more traditional regions like Russia, MENA, parts of Asia, etc. No, I don't think that'll ever happen. But that's not the only way to create the material conditions for matria…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:56 PM
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It's not simply power, but it's the most important kind in this non-peaceful world. Notice how the countries with the biggest, best militaries can exert their will on others more than countries with weaker militaries. I don't agree we'll always live in a patriarchy for that reason, so no, it's not biological essentialism. If it were that, I wouldn't acknowledge the fact that patriarchy is a creation and not something that's always existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:28 PM
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A patriarchy is a society where men have the most power. And in this world, the people with the most guns and weapons have the most power. Simple logic. List the entire chain of command for launching nukes, from start to finish.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:10 PM
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It's influenced by facts, which is why you never said I was wrong about the slavery-gun example. I said it depends because there's a whole chain of command involved in sending nukes. The public probably doesn't even have a full list of names (for common sense reasons) of people involved in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:37 PM
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I'm not saying it's the whole system; it's the most crucial part that separates peace from chaos (ethnic cleansing and sex slaves). They have more power than anyone simply because of the grade of weapons they have and their training. That's how military coups can happen in the first place. It's the same logic behind why the person with the most guns throughout history got the most slaves. Nothing new under the sun. ...? I did engage and said they were dominated by females. Depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:08 PM
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But it's not about what "cops say". It's about the local and national/federal legislation put in place, that are voted on by mostly women. They don't tell you random orders because they're men. But I mean I guess the police in the US is a bit crazy, but it's also because the American voter is very attached to private citizens owning guns imo. The law would still have no teeth without citizens having to submit to these men. An abstract concept cannot enforce itself, so there's no choice but to su…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:54 PM
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Obviously, I don't mean in that ridiculous sense. If you don't do what cops say, bad things happen to you. You have to submit to them if you want your time in society to go well. And sometimes the military does get involved and has direct authority over citizens, like during martial law or disasters. Does that mean they're not a patriarchy then? Would your whole theory crumble if a woman had access to the nuclear codes? Would the world suddenly switch to a matriarchy? Do you know if it's not act…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:25 PM
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OK? I sound "woke" because an armed woman could obviously overpower me? Please tell me you're not one of those Americans brainbroken about "woke" and "anti-woke" nonsense. I'm just surprised someone would have such a based take while not believing patriarchy exists. They don't. You might say the military act as a "deterrent" against foreign forces but that doesn't mean they "literally hold society together". Because my locked front door and my alarm system deters thieves doesn't mean that my ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:22 PM
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Of course, I've met several female cops. Law enforcement and military are respectively over 80% male though. Talking about being overpowered by a female soldier makes you sound like one of the "woke" people who claim patriarchy is real. I'm "obsessed" because cops and military literally hold society together and enforce everything. If the ones who do that being mostly male isn't patriarchy, I don't know what is. Part of the reason why some matrilineal and matrilocal settlements were able to exis…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:50 PM
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Theoretically, my country could be invaded by Belgians and i could have my rights taken away by Belgians. False equivalence. Belgians can't even tell you what to do under normal circumstances. It's not in the realm of someone who already has authority and power going rogue. Once again, male cops and male soldiers have authority that women in the same society don't, and it's the most important kind. if the army would start a literal war on women, you can be sure it would be closer to a civil war …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:04 PM
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You're saying that because it could be a patriarchy. Therefore, it is? No, I'm saying those men being in the position to take away women's rights by force (and ignoring what elected officials want) makes it a patriarchy. If history taught us anything, it's that force overrides everything. Which gender is in the position to force stuff? If all women decided to walk away, a gender bloodbath (not even war because women would be cooked) would happen because guess who controls the security-related st…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:20 PM
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They're unable to in the material world
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:16 PM
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Yes because the soul exists outside a fully functioning brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:47 AM
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The soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:58 AM
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Biology isn't the reason for everything. People still have agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:13 AM
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I got called a feminist and a misogynist in the same post. I guess I'm the epitome of a based realist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:49 AM
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This post was referring to social differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:47 AM
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How do women force men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:47 PM
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A lot is not most, but yes those women contribute to how this patriarchy functions as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:29 PM
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It does exist. Most people who control all the heavy machinery and military/police grade weapons that keep the masses in line are male. Most of the police and military is male. You may be confused and think patriarchy is no longer a thing because women have rights and can make good incomes, but the mostly male military/police force is holding it together. This means those same men can theoretically snatch it away if they want. How is that not patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:27 PM
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Not really. There's a really big spectrum between ruthless exploitation and women getting a few perks based on stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:22 PM
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Who created the society and circumstances that grant women this advantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:21 PM
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So that would mean what you said isn't really a privilege but a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 04:21 AM
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So you think women are naturally superior to men in that sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 04:09 AM
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The fact that you, just by the fact that you are a woman, get advantages or access to things that men do not have simply by virtue of them being men Are any of these things as inherent as having legs? Do any of them NOT come from living in a society men control?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 03:47 AM
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The rest of this has nothing to do with what I said, but men can be the object of benevolent sexism too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 03:44 AM
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No. I think the men who actively sign up to maintain order in society have to think the same for society to function in one piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:53 AM
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Why would they want to when they enforce it? The military and law enforcement are mostly male, and average men join those organizations all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:46 PM
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I'm not saying every single one would do it, but theoretically, nothing would stop them because there's no way women could win a war against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:41 PM
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The threat of force still lingers and can override what you call FP at any time. If they don't get what they want, nothing is stopping them rounding women up in white vans at putting them in tradwife re-education centers and brothels. And if other countries stepped in, that would still be relying on the patriarchal institution of a foreign military.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:59 PM
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Because many are still getting laid despite underperforming in life, so they don't care. And even some of the ones not getting laid are too distracted by OnlyFans, AI, and other copes to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:46 PM
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You brought up something I wasn't even debating. The point of the post is whose fault it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:33 PM
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You asked why bears don't enslave humans, not other bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:18 PM
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All these things are enforced by patriarchal institutions. Men can decide to cut all this off tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:17 PM
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Men don't care enough about that to use their mostly male law enforcement to take care of this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:58 PM
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Because bears can't get humans pregnant and use humans' innate desire to keep their half-human half-bear offspring safe to manipulate them into submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:53 PM
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Everyone has opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:11 PM
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If white women were trapped on an island with any other non-white race of men who were bigger and stronger, there'd be no more white privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:09 PM
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I admit that some people perceive it as female privilege. Others perceive it as benevolent sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:05 PM
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If you can expect a better outcome in a given situation because of the way you were born This makes it seem like the privilege is inherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 07:56 PM
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I didn't admit that; I put it in quotes for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 07:42 PM
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Right, they're no better than the people they're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:55 PM
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women who say men only want one thing and then date that sort of guy on purpose over and over. So you mean the ones who get used? There's more to that than the men being shallow. She might be ignoring signs that he doesn't see her as relationship worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:04 PM
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The type of people who think true love conquers all probably shouldn't care about shallow people anyway. If that type of person refuses to see you for who you are, it's not fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:57 PM
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You'd have a point if I were debating morality and ethics, but I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:50 PM
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That doesn't really explain how there are so many barely average (often below average) women with ridiculously high standards. Or how there are also quite many below average men who have similarly ridiculously high standards. For women, DMs and comments from a bunch of thirsty men online. For men, the media and women trying to save face by lying about women not caring about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:04 PM
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I don't think anything in dating is "bad," as long as both people are consenting adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:31 PM
1

What about my post is hateful?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:30 PM
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I don't want to get into semantics. The point is they would have the same "unpleasant preference" if they were in a more privileged person's shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:27 PM
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Never said they're not allowed, but it's better to have self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:17 PM
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Shallow and picky get conflated by the whiners though. If a woman is only attracted to a small percentage of men (6'2 and up) and only dates that group, she'll still get called shallow even though she can't control what she's attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:16 PM
1

You could say every desire boils down to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:20 PM
2

It's equivalent because both are one of the first things that gets noticed and are very unlikely to change without surgery. A woman notices height before she notices a V taper.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:14 PM
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There's no way it's shoulder to hip ratio. I never see women vocalize a preference related to that like they do height.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:47 PM
1

True, I should have said "not being fat" instead of physical fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:46 PM
1

Not being fat is a priority for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:43 PM
1

Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:39 PM
3

You think an ideal body type is not physically fit?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:36 PM
4

You can only change WHR with surgery. Just like you can only change height with surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:23 PM
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Male and female weight are already equivalent. Both sexes prefer physical fitness about equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:21 PM
1

So you think black people are genetically inferior because they get fewer matches?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:23 AM
1

What? Marriage means a lot for men because it literally adds years to their lives. And it's not all outdated data because AM's marriage rates actually haven't dropped since 1990 like those of other races. This is an impressive stat, but you care more about how many random drunk chicks wanna make out with you at a bar?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:28 PM
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I never said they should do anything. It just doesn't make sense to complain about racial preferences if you don't even want your own race. I know they're the minority, but Asians still get married despite being a racial minority. In fact, Asian men have the highest marriage rates. White men mostly prefer white women, so they're not taking all these WOC. There are plenty of non-white women left.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:06 PM
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If minorities of both sexes are single because they want white people instead of their own race, they kinda have no room to whine about racial preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:44 PM
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But you just said in your last post most people settle down with their own race. So why would it matter if you're a minority if you stick to your own race?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:31 PM
1

None of what you said makes it not a social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:47 PM
1

Being romantically ignored by people who care that much about a social construct isn't even a bad thing IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:45 PM
1

That's based more on a social construct of what "Asian" and "Black" means in America than the genes of Asian men and Black women. These groups are not less fit to pass their genes on than white people are. If that were the case, Asians and Black people wouldn't outbreed white people so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:02 PM
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Being at the bottom of a socially constructed racial hierarchy does not mean your race is objectively undesirable and unfit to pass on its genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:58 PM
1

Sounds more like a self-loathing experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:59 PM
1

Any approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:22 PM
1

"undesirable race" sounds Hitlerly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:49 AM
1

So a married homeless person would be out of a handsome, single billionaire's league?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:17 AM
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If you wouldn't seriously date them, that would be below your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:14 AM
1

That must mean you understand why more women don't want children at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:18 PM
1

Sure, but people fall out of love all the time. That's when the preference for younger women starts to kick in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:01 PM
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That's a lot of iffy conditions to be much better than staying single or dating at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:43 PM
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The type of men who whine about baggage as if they have none themselves tend to fit into this category.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:16 PM
0

For some women, a slowed metabolism and weight gain is part of hitting the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:14 PM
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Unlike the concept of a soulmate or fate, feelings can be just as fleeting as attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:26 AM
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Most but not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:25 AM
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In both cases, there's still a small amount of men (a minority if single vs. one husband) who are still attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:20 AM
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In both cases, a person can still lose physical attraction despite still liking them as a person. For women, childbirth is another factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:19 AM
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Married women can have baggage that's too much to handle too. This explains the men who leave their sick wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:38 PM
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I was speaking in general, not making an assumption about every single case. Again, the point was how common it can be for people to objectify others or normalize that behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:31 PM
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Those interactions influence how people carry themselves in future relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:26 PM
1

With online dating, it's pretty easy to interact with hundreds of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:18 PM
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So older married women lose their charm too?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:14 PM
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1.5% is quite a lot, especially since most people have multiple relationships that impact even more people. When people have trouble relating to others, it can lead to objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:12 PM
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ASPD isn't the only personality disorder that's cluster B.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:06 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/cluster-b#:\~:text=Cluster%20B%20disorders%20are%20marked,disorder%2C%20and%20narcissistic%20personality%20disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:01 PM
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Sure, if you're lucky enough to not fall for a cluster B.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:55 PM
3

Do you also think personality alone is enough to get a man laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:53 PM
2

The first probably explains why rich people get married more and divorce less frequently: fewer burnt out wives. They can pay someone else to do draining domestic labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 01:23 AM
1

It's both. Like taking a "GMO product" package off something is unveiling and hiding at the same time. Permanent makeup also exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:10 PM
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But waxing is promoted mostly for health reasons? Or to look like a pornstar? I never even heard of that reasoning before now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:22 PM
1

That wasn't the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:21 PM
1

A woman is unrecognizable after shaving a full beard too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:57 PM
1

Lots meaning "most"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:55 PM
1

Hypocrisy noted, nothing else to say really.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:43 PM
1

Most women don't have the skills to look completely different, so going from 2 to 10 is rare. A woman having a beard is rare too. But you never answered. Would a woman shaving her beard be lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:29 PM
0

Removing something is still hiding though. A woman can be Chewbacca hairy genetically and keep doing hair removal to hide it. You could be passing super hairy genes to your kids and you'd never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:08 PM
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You may know who she is, but her body looks completely different to most men if she doesn't remove body hair. There are also some women with abnormal facial hair who look completely different after removing it. Is this lying like makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:05 PM
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They may not look completely different to you, but it makes a huge difference for a lot of men. A lot of men won't even look twice at a woman with hairy pits or a hairy crotch but will thirst over the same chick without those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:51 PM
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Most men aren't expected to shave their pits, legs, happy trails, arms, and pubes like women are. A woman shaving her legs is hiding how hairy she can get. So that's hiding something too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:43 PM
1

That's fine, but it's all deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:42 PM
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Some people look completely different based on what they do with facial hair too. And a woman who's super hairy completely transforms with waxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:40 PM
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They are different, but the point is all cosmetic enhancement is some form of deception, so the cutoff at makeup is arbitrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:40 PM
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An electric razor is way more unnatural. Requires way more fossil fuel to make than tweezers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:37 PM
2

Do you think taking an expiration date label (showing expiration) off of a piece of fruit is somehow less deceptive than putting a fake, much later expiration date label on a piece of fruit?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:31 AM
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All cosmetics are on some spectrum of deception. The cutoff is what's subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:27 AM
1

I'll grant that lack of body hair is a tactile thing, but what about shaving a unibrow? You can barely feel that when kissing someone. Is shaving a unibrow mimicry like natural makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:01 AM
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Getting a hair cut is not the same because trimming ends promotes healthy hair by preventing split ends. Shaving or waxing isn't promoted for health reasons like regular haircuts. A woman with surgery also looks the same in the pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:16 AM
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A bald coochie isn't a woman's default natural state either. And a woman can be "fresh faced" and ready for bed but have lip filler, a nose job, fake boobs, dyed hair, etc. That's not real either but he wakes up to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:18 PM
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Fake boobs, a bbl, and a nose job can be bare skin too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:16 PM
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Hair removal can be subtle as well. Like a woman could trim her pubes to make it look like she's naturally not that hairy and leave some hair while hiding a whole wolf down there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:39 PM
1

You didn't say that so I could get my dopamine hit, you said that because you can't properly address my argument. But thanks anyway, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:35 PM
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Huh? You can't even provide a good response, so you resort to ad hominem; I'm the dumb one? If it's so dumb, debunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:31 PM
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Showering is different because there's no drastic change in appearance. Same with combing your hair because you still have the same type of hair after combing it. Hair cuts are not deceptive, but drastic chemical changes are (like perms). I think hair dye is deception as well. Clothes are deceptive IF they make your body look completely different from how it looks naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:24 PM
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That probably wouldn't look much better unless a person only had a few hairs on their upper lip to begin with. Then it'd be like a white lie as opposed to a big fat one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:19 PM
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Yes you are because that's not how your hair actually grows out of your face. And some men are good at shaping their jawlines with their facial hair as well. Maybe not you, but others I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:17 PM
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Losing weight isn't deceptive. Wearing a mask can be on a case-by-case basis. Depends on a person's intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:06 PM
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Nah, pick a better test. Hair dye is kinda similar to makeup and hair removal. And it lasts longer like waxing does. It can make a really dramatic difference and even make some people look like a different race, and it won't just come off in the shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:04 PM
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Sure, but it'd be no better visually than letting the hair grow anyway because it'd look disgusting and infected.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:58 PM
8

But plastic surgery doesn't "fail" that test or count as cheating, and that's even more of a lie than makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:53 PM
8

The stuff used to remove hair is also artificial. There's nothing natural about the ingredients used for razors and waxing material. It's a lie because the person is lying about not having body hair. I don't think bathing is the same as makeup because it doesn't visually deceive people about anything. Same with weight loss. But clothing items that make you LOOK slimmer are deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:52 PM
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The women who do that are. They get told by the media and friends they can't be a "baddie" with hairy pits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:44 PM
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You buy razors and every other type of hair removal item from a store too. And none of those are made with natural ingredients. Have you seen the chemicals put in that stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:41 PM
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