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Because love is consuming, and stability is desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:43 PM
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That is exactly what I’m doing — disagreeing that women put in no effort, and I provided a major sociological study to prove it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:45 PM
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It doesn’t need to It just needs to change in the way women want it to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:51 PM
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It has and is changing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:23 PM
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Universal means all, not most
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:19 PM
1

It’s not a shared decision, it’s individual That is why its not universal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:18 PM
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No, a majority is a percentage A collective is a group with the same purpose Leadership positions are individual, not collective
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:05 PM
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Majority/most doesn’t mean collective These decisions are individual
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:41 PM
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Those decisions are individual, not collective
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:12 PM
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And that’s fine
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:43 PM
1

Doesn’t change existence and increasing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:35 PM
1

And yet we do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:33 PM
1

So? They still exist, and are increasing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:39 PM
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There doesn’t need to be
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:39 PM
1

There has already been a dramatic change and people can do what they want in a free society
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:40 PM
1

Female leaders and breadwinners exist in large numbers and are increasing, contrary to your assertion
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:38 PM
1

So? Female leaders and breadwinners exist
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:36 PM
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I’m afraid reality disagrees
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:36 PM
1

And we do, which is why women are leaders and breadwinners
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:39 AM
1

No, we don’t have to, just like we don’t have to live and die like cavemen
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:38 AM
1

I can interrogate your stance and opinions, that’s the whole point of a debate post
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:38 AM
1

No, we aren’t and don’t have to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:31 AM
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All of history denies that things are the same
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:30 AM
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Not as rich as today, because we have more people who work longer and more efficiently due to education, communication, and technology There’s no evidence that it will revert back, nor any reason for it to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:12 AM
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We don’t need to change the leadership ratio We just need to let people do what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:08 AM
1

Families and couples are wealthier and have higher social status than singles, regardless of your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:10 AM
1

Nah, no reason to do that, especially since things are better than before
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:08 AM
1

Earnings doesn’t equal submission, neither does intelligence, height, age, etc My dad earned slightly more, but my mom had the supervisor position and ran the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:07 AM
-1

It’s not really enjoyable to hear masturbatory ego talk
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:52 AM
1

Yes, so?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 03:52 PM
1

Most do, that’s what the study indicates It’s fine if women never become more than 50% of leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 03:50 PM
-1

One doesn’t have to be a non-blonde to realize that talking and pontificating isn’t doing or effecting change
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:40 PM
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That is not what that study says
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:35 PM
1

Reality isn’t the same as ideals
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:35 PM
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Prefer doesn’t mean all. And what women (and men) actually prefer is equality, not submission https://news.utexas.edu/2015/01/20/majority-of-young-women-and-men-prefer-egalitarian-relationships-study-shows/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:17 AM
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Prefer doesn’t mean all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:10 AM
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Prefer doesn’t mean all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:09 AM
1

So? “Prefer” doesn’t mean “all”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:08 AM
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The data does not agree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:45 AM
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I don’t agree that it will remain the same
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:44 AM
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Not all, and the divorce stat was for older women, as evidenced by the increase in female providers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:44 AM
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I don’t have to. If women want to have subordinate positions or have a provider, they can easily do so
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:19 AM
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I expect the outcome to be what the data and reality show — women doing what they want If a woman doesn’t want to be a leader or provider, she can be a subordinate or find a simp/provider. There are plenty of both around
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:17 AM
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You didn’t link them so I can neither agree nor disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:55 AM
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I don’t see that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:53 AM
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I don’t see that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:53 AM
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It’s not, because the number of female leaders and breadwinners is increasing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:48 AM
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They aren’t. Female leaders and breadwinners are increasing, because that’s what women want
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:45 AM
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It could. That’s fine, if that’s what women want
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:43 AM
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I don’t believe women are lazy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:42 AM
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Women can want to be leaders and become leaders There’s no set requirement for how many
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:41 AM
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Nope And most women aren’t lazy and don’t play video games
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:39 AM
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Sure. And you can want to be a leader, and be a leader Which is good
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:36 AM
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If they want to do it, that’s good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:36 AM
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Because female leaders and breadwinners exist and are increasing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:32 AM
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I don’t see an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:32 AM
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The data does not agree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:28 AM
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Nevertheless, they exist and are increasing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:28 AM
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And yet, female leaders and breadwinners exist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:05 AM
1

and yet female leaders and breadwinners exist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:03 AM
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And incorrectly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:14 PM
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The data does not agree
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:13 PM
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So? Doesn’t change who has leadership positions and wins the bread
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:13 PM
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All the evidence says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:05 PM
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No sign of that happening
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:05 PM
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Ah, ah, ah — did you just assume ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:04 PM
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Some do
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:18 AM
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Yup If what matters is use, you’re a user Pretty simple
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:17 AM
1

Relationships that don’t involve cohabitation or marriage are not that important
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:59 AM
1

And yet, women are leaders and expect more from men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:58 AM
1

It’s not. Women are still leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:58 AM
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We already know women and men are different. Men are thirsty and women are not
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:06 AM
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They could but they do not, because desperation and indiscriminacy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:10 PM
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And what topics are worthy, in your humble opinion? What good do deep thoughts do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:07 PM
1

Then they will be alone Or will they ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:06 PM
1

Why shouldn’t the most desirable women think they’re desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 07:20 PM
3

Shows masculinity or something
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 07:10 PM
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I see no links or study titles
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:16 PM
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Of course. But they’re not desperate or indiscriminate. They have standards and boundaries of their own
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:16 PM
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Doesn’t change current reality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:15 PM
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Heresy!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:15 PM
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Yes, that’s the catch. Full submission demands full dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:15 PM
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If “the first” is your concern, you’re not a good man. You’re a user
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:14 PM
1

Nope. Men can choose to not be sluts, I promise
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:01 PM
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Of course. Because rape and economic dependence are no longer common
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:00 PM
1

You have illustrated my point perfectly Red pill = self improvement + women bad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:57 PM
1

The only difference between a simp and a good guy is the observer who decides what they should be getting in return for the behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:56 PM
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Nope Being good/yourself is only bad if you want something in return for it and will get angry if you don’t get it, aka entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:53 PM
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There’s roughly equal numbers of men and women. If women have more options, it’s only because someone is freely giving them out. I wonder who is doing that? Tree frogs?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:03 AM
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Do female incels exist ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:00 AM
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Yes. Anything is indiscriminate. Actual good men don’t have to be
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:00 AM
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They will get older too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:59 AM
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Sure. Recent data about old marriages from 1970-1989. Recent marriages, aka 1990 and after, do not show that trend It’s not an oversimplification. Once anti discrimination laws were passed, female employment more than doubled, and female breadwinners tripled in number Dating dynamics do not affect leadership rates. They continue to increase
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:58 AM
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With forever girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:02 AM
2

It certainly is for women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:59 PM
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Men don’t seem in a hurry to change diapers and commit either
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:58 PM
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I assure you that is normal behavior for young people of both genders. Well, at least 10-20 years ago it was Maybe you guys don’t YOLO anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:57 PM
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You’re honest, but not kindhearted, moral or good
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:56 PM
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“Anything” meaning “no low is too low”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:55 PM
2

For you, maybe Other men like stability and feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:53 PM
2

Because they’re male sluts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:51 PM
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Immoral men ok, immoral women not ok
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:50 PM
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Yes, most people like to get laid. Usually not competitively or excessively, though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:48 PM
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More people like being social with nice people than assholes, criminals and sociopaths But, again, if other people aren’t your bag, I can see why it doesn’t appeal to you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:46 PM
0

That’s what most young, dumb people of both genders are doing. Well, excepting the heels
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:38 PM
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Other people Yes, what a concept
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:38 PM
1

They already know that They just don’t wanna They’re as helpless as rats
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:09 PM
-1

We all know men will fuck anything, even the poorly socialized or just plain poor
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:01 PM
2

Why? Males horny, that’s why
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:58 PM
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No, unless you state your romantic interest, you are not owed anything Plausible deniability works both ways. If you can’t be rejected, neither can you expect obligation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:55 PM
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Uh, yeah, that’s the point “Society bad, self interest good” is the whole point of the red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:06 PM
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No they don’t, lol Men are assumed to be rapey murderous abusers who won’t change, so it’s up to women to avoid, deter, pacify and defend against them. Thus, they are at fault for allowing men the opportunity to victimize them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:00 PM
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Normal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:58 PM
1

The constraints
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:47 PM
1

Everything beneficial has a cost. Power, dominance, sex, respect, inclusion — there’s no such thing as a free lunch
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:41 PM
-1

*normal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:28 PM
0

Whatever behavior the woman is complaining about that prompts “choose better”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:02 PM
4

Everyone knows that promiscuity is the best and most virtuous character trait
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:48 PM
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Actual good men who like monogamy are going to have fewer partners than promiscuous sociopaths It’s a feature, not a bug
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:46 PM
5

Actual nice guys wouldn’t be doing anything to get laid, and would have fewer sex partners than scum
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:45 PM
0

It’s placing responsibility for the man’s behavior on his partner. “Choose better” instead of “wow, what a shit thing to do to the person you claim to love”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:38 PM
0

Yes, and men certainly choose their behaviors. Which the woman is then blamed for
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:37 PM
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It’s not. A single woman cannot sleep with that many men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:36 PM
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They don’t have to do anything. Because it’s women’s responsibility, not theirs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:35 PM
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It’s brought up all the time, because it is the only logical argument
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:34 PM
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There is one aspect that they do have a point about — we do not trust or show platonic affection to men as much as women. But that’s because men see platonic affection, and even just interaction, as sexual interest, so it’s justified and correct
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:34 PM
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Of course they are, for civilization and not raping and enslaving women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:28 PM
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But blaming women for men’s health is good for men, in the short term And so it will continue
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:25 PM
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Yes, that would be the vast majority of men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:23 PM
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Nope. Acting like sex only involves one person is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:22 PM
2

Nope, it means it’s the woman’s fault, not the man’s fault, for the man’s behavior Just like the rationale behind the veil and sex segregation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:20 PM
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Of course you can do promiscuity or nonmonogamy ethically. That doesn’t make it “good” or “positive” or “ideal for monogamy”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:09 PM
2

Now, why should good men be getting more sex than bad ones ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:00 PM
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Good men aren’t trying to fuck everything and anything Of course they’re going to be having less sex than bad ones
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:59 PM
12

You’re honest about your disdain for women. That doesn’t make you good
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:58 PM
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Manipulative, awful men should get more pussy. Because “good” men are supposed to be monogamous and chaste
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:54 PM
-1

“Choose better” Means “Men aren’t responsible for their own behavior”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:52 PM
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Your baggage is part of you. Including your experiences, thoughts and opinions. If all “true” male friendship amounts to is just “existing in each other’s presence” and being incurious of or even avoidant of all other information, it’s no surprise that many men don’t have friends. If the relationship is dependent on what you do rather than who it’s with, it’s an easily replaceable relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:46 PM
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And why should “good” guys want and chase tons of pussy? Isn’t the point of being good that you don’t want or do that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:33 PM
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Uh huh, that’s why women are coddled whiners that should cry less, riiiiiiiiight?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:27 PM
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That’s what we find interesting and cool about our friends. So it’s weird that men don’t seem to care We don’t have to want or care about the same things that you do
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:25 PM
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No, everyone just gets older and more tired
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:10 PM
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If you believe, why don’t you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:09 PM
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No, we call those fake or false friends, not NiceGuys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:01 PM
1

No, men do have to deal with older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:57 PM
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Of course they do. Why do you think there are so many men pissed about women’s brains and what you have to do to interact with them ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:55 PM
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We do. Because of the way the man acts after not getting what he wants If he doesn’t act like an entitled baby, he’s not a NiceGuy It’s very simple
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:47 PM
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Sorry, that comment was getting away from me, so I deleted it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:37 PM
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Of course not, unless we’re talking about the law. But you can feel like you are, or at least believe there are rules and expectations And there still are rules and expectations, which are enforced by social judgements
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:34 PM
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Nope. It’s normal, and that’s what men have to deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:33 PM
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We can’t withhold what doesn’t exist. If I don’t like you or want to fuck you, I just don’t. We can fake it, of course, but what’s the incentive to do something unpleasant like that? What can be withheld is access to our bodies, if one believes that men are owed it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:24 PM
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Sure. Affection is like money; it can be given as a means of exchange for services rendered. Just ask any sex worker
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:19 PM
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I don’t think so. Getting old is very common. One might even say inevitable
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:16 PM
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No, I’m just old and tired and weak. I’m put out to pasture now
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:10 PM
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If you’re not dating, no If you are dating, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:09 PM
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That’s the definition of a NiceGuyTM A man who wants sex/relationships for being nice, and gets pissy or sulky when he doesn’t get it If that’s not you, congrats! You’re not a NiceGuyTM.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:04 PM
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1) where’s the money for education going to come from? 2) can she study if he’s harassing her, verbally abusing her and making her life miserable at home 3) who’s going to watch her kids
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:59 PM
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Both My days of clubbing, murdering every brain and liver cell possible via chemicals, not sleeping, stealing shit, starting fights, eating crap food, lying on terrible or nonexistent mattresses, and wearing crazy heels are over. I cannot physically survive that stuff anymore. Thus, marriage sounded better and better
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:49 PM
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Feeling used is the logical result of not getting the thing that use should get you, aka entitlement This is ok for women, because dating is for relationships, not sex. But not men, because friendship and niceness is for friendship and niceness, not sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:47 PM
0

I’m afraid laws and policies do actually exist
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:44 PM
0

They fear loss of power. Having to care about what someone else thinks means you’re submissive. Real men do what they want and don’t give a shit about anyone else. It’s good to be the king, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:25 PM
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That’s the old data. The new data shows only a 4% difference, due to changing attitudes and societal norms https://cde.wisc.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/839/2023/05/More-Wives-Now-Outearn-Their-Husbands.-They-Also-Stay-Together-Longer.-WSJ.pdf Dating doesn’t affect leadership increases, as the data clearly shows
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:15 PM
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Misogyny tends to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:02 PM
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Not envy. Fear
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:02 PM
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I don’t have to believe that I just know what the data says
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:12 PM
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There’s no men in the red pill equation, just Chads and simps
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:17 PM
1

Men have never cared if women wanted to fuck them, by and large What do you think marriage/sex was about for most of human existence, and even today? Mutual desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:15 PM
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And yet women are the ones who can’t love or be loyal And men’s behaviors and attitudes of course have no effect on women. Nope, it’s a mystery why women behave the way they do towards men. It must be biology, can’t explain it!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:02 PM
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The red pill has been around for more than a decade The point of red pill isn’t self improvement The point is using misogyny, sexism and resentment to motivate self improvement. Otherwise, we’d just call red pill “self improvement”, instead of a cure for societal “lies”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:57 PM
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Being perved on and simped for I can trust interaction more, and I get less of it too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:51 PM
1

You can want the same things. But to get priority, you have to be superior. That’s why guys love to talk about hierarchy, rank and power. They know the ugly truth, and lots of women don’t want to face that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:49 PM
0

An honest man, I am shocked
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:47 PM
1

Sex and service, obviously. How can you demand either on your terms from someone who’s your equal ? No, to get what you want, when you want from another person, they have to be your inferior. Isn’t that right, kings?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:47 PM
2

And plenty of men would call you a cuck, simp or pussy for that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:45 PM
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She’s also his mommy, maid and personal assistant Those are not egalitarian relationships, that’s unpaid servitude
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:43 PM
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Of course we do. We do way more of the domestic effort even when we earn the same https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ And we’re willing to put way more effort into divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:42 PM
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Of course they are, by a 5 to 1 ratio Men have the means, and the motive, that women do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:37 PM
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Yup. Corruption exists. Sexism in law enforcement exists. Monetary influence exists. Kids exist. Violence exists. Murder exists. You can talk to anyone in law enforcement, family law, social work, the education system, the healthcare system, etc, to see how effectively and efficiently society really protects victims, especially children
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:34 PM
1

Uh huh, sure; the world and humans are just, logical and functional
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:31 PM
1

Intimacy and connection means different things to men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:05 PM
1

No, I don’t agree that it won’t last. We don’t have to become men to be leaders. It’s not all or nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:04 PM
1

Still doesn’t change the fact that female leaders, managers, supervisors, judges, executives, representatives, breadwinners, etc., exist
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:41 AM
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This appears to be a personal issue https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/5kcYDdbzlC https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/7YRjaIbEvH https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/RQHHiTGvnS https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/LCJIw68Npp
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:50 AM
1

Why? Men confess to dumpster diving all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:44 AM
2

Men are the ones who say that sex is the most important thing in the world and their reason for doing everything Not women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:43 AM
1

If women are uninteresting to you, that’s your problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:42 AM
3

It’s much better
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:42 AM
1

Sorry, female leaders and breadwinners exist
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:41 AM
1

But they do
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:07 AM
1

I find women’s sports very entertaining. Just as much as men’s I watch men’s sports because they are also entertaining, but also to keep my men company
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:49 AM
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We are. Just not as much as men Women’s tennis, golf, soccer, gymnastics and figure skating has decent numbers and fandom
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:21 AM
1

Liking our vaginas, wombs and labor isn’t liking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:15 AM
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He’s horny and I’m convenient Everyone dumpster dives once in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:13 AM
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I’m not very desirable now, so yes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:12 AM
2

Not being interested in people’s thoughts and experiences is pretty telling
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:11 AM
1

Aren’t men responsible for their interests ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:43 PM
1

I’m afraid women do watch men’s sports. But are men watching RH?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:30 PM
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It just shows we don’t interest you, apart from our bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:28 PM
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Finding love for yourself is not virtuous It’s selfish Not caring about others is not virtuous It’s lazy Virtue is giving friendship, loyalty and love Without expecting anything back And you are not doing this Even for your friend You do things because you like the way she makes you feel. That is not virtuous, that is selfish It’s shouldn’t matter that you like her You should just care and give her things anyway That Is virtuous
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:13 PM
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Lots of us do. But we also watch men’s sports too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:01 PM
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Nope. The information is out there. You guys complain about it all the time (standards! Expectations! Nagging!) so you’re all well aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:54 PM
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Of course. I’m not denying that. And lots of their fans are female. We’ll watch, read, listen to and buy your stuff, but you won’t watch/read/listen to/buy ours — unless it’s sexxxxxay. Any sports broadcaster or media executive knows this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:50 PM
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Not at all. Women’s soccer, tennis, golf, ice skating and gymnastics make money And lots of men’s sports do not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:43 PM
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I do. Plenty of people do. Just not enough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:39 PM
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If you were virtuous. You’d just do nice things. Instead of not caring. You’d be giving out dollars without expecting any back. You don’t have to do it until you’re broke. You just don’t expect anything in return. That’s virtue. Also. I’m not arguing that reciprocity is virtuous. I’m just saying that’s what most people expect. And desire. Including. Yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:38 PM
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Men say they don’t care about our jobs, education, politics, interests and achievements They won’t buy or consume our content (sports, books, movies, music, tv or media) Our platonic friendship is unsatisfactory or insulting Our bodies and vaginas, on the other hand — you’ll pay lots of money and attention to those So why wouldn’t women think men don’t like us, just our bodies ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:23 PM
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Again, who knows ? Some women might find it acceptable if a guy hits her as long as he says “I love you”. Many men will put up with a shallow user as long as she’s hot and sucks their dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:16 PM
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I thought we were supposed to “choose better”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:56 PM
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If you don’t like us (not our bodies), why should we like you ? If you only care about yourselves (and our bodies), why should we care about you? If you’re not nice to us, why should we be nice to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:44 PM
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Women tell men all the time. Men either don’t listen, don’t care, or say that Chad doesn’t have to, so why should they ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:43 PM
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Nope We’re talking about standards, not behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:13 PM
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If you don’t like us (not our bodies), why should we like you ? If you only care about yourselves (and our bodies), why should we care about you? If you’re not nice to us, why should we be nice to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:01 PM
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*because they can’t handle being celibate It’s also the same for women, except what they can’t handle is being alone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:00 PM
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*because they can’t handle being celibate It’s also the same for women, except what they can’t handle is being alone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:42 PM
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They’re not trying to get laid. They just want to feel better about themselves by being jerks and getting a reaction. So I don’t give it to them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:39 PM
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How, if they’re not on a jury ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:38 PM
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There’s plenty of basis to define it. You just have to know the answer to the question: why doesn’t this person want to fuck/date/marry/reproduce with me? And if you want to know in a general context, you have to have many women answer this question about men in general
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:36 PM
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Those common responses are not misogynist Of course all women don’t like attractive criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:18 PM
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It’s not a paradox, it’s simply a requirement. Initiating doesn’t matter, it’s the response that matters And if they don’t respond, you don’t have reciprocation, or a relationship. What’s so hard about that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:13 PM
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If you were truly virtuous, you wouldn’t need a reason. You would just be virtuous. But you aren’t There’s no paradox. Either you initiate or you don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:55 PM
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Your OP is all about kids, it’s a very common issue on this sub and in the real world, but we’re supposed to read your mind when you aren’t clear about things? What entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:45 PM
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It’s not a fallacy, just a standard many people have, myself included
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:40 PM
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Yes, that’s true No, women can and do lead men on all levels
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:38 PM
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Men have to lead for some women. Not all If it were that difficult to lead, fewer women would do it Women don’t date men based general trends. Leadership isn’t collective
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:27 PM
1

Sure they do “Why won’t someone rape me?” “Where was she when I was in school?”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:25 PM
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Not at all. I often didn’t get, so I dumped
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:24 PM
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I assure you that they knew, because I told them. And because everyone knows that cheating isn’t cool
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:23 PM
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No, men can do the same thing if they want. Leadership isn’t special, it’s just work
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:06 PM
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We don’t have to, no
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:03 PM
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Sure they do. See the comments on any article about a female criminal, especially teachers who fuck boys
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:59 PM
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Not at all. One person initiates, the other responds. That’s reciprocity I became friends with people because one of us wanted to hang out and the other one agreed. Or, reciprocity can be assumed. Most of us in relationships assume there will be loyalty And you can stop relationships at any item if they are not reciprocated
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:57 PM
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Of course they do for looks. Hot women can get away with anything, even abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:54 PM
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Yes, this isn’t a gender specific phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:40 PM
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Yes. Still doesn’t make it common or routine
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:34 PM
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We already have a substantial societal leadership It’s not handed to us. It’s just no longer withheld from us
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:33 PM
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I do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:22 PM
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Of course we can. We are picking and choosing now, and we have skills now. Just like men can and do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:22 PM
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Yes, abnormal things are worth reporting on Normal things are not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:16 PM
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Not for long Men like that will also get bored too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:08 PM
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Yes, but I already answered your question If men go to war, women will go to war. Including me What I’m not going to do is sacrifice while men don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:04 PM
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No evidence of that happening
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:01 PM
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More like stop cheating, sucking in bed and treating me like a maid
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:00 PM
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I don’t expect to have equal leadership
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:52 PM
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It would be easier for me to get a dick thrown at me regardless of venue Irl interactions have some advantages, or they wouldn’t exist at all
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:50 PM
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The OP was about kids, women are always being nagged about the birth rate, and you haven’t provided a reasonable alternative, so….its about kids by default
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:45 PM
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I’m afraid the data disagrees
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:41 PM
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So? It doesn’t preclude meeting people by other means
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:39 PM
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Of course it’s about kids. You said so yourself Denying it is disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:32 PM
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I’m not making it personal “You” can be plural or general; you can replace it with “men” if you’re confused My answer is the latter. They don’t even have to do it first; we can do it together. If you’re talking politics, men clearly aren’t going to help us out, and it’s also not only men fucking things up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:19 PM
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Good thing we’re leaders then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:18 PM
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Of course you can know. I know why I broke up with every guy who wasn’t better
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:18 PM
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Why should we when men won’t? Why do we always have to sacrifice and suffer? We’ll do it when you do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:32 PM
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We’ll see about that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:24 PM
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Why should we have to fuck/take care of men we don’t want? Why can’t men be better ? Why should we when you won’t ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:23 PM
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Why do we have to “give up some of our own time/effort”, aka fuck/take care of men we don’t want and have/take care of babies we don’t want ? Why can’t men “be better”? Because if men won’t, machines definitely will
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:22 PM
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Women don’t have to care about what men value so much anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:19 PM
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Hey, William, how’s it going ? I see you’re “just asking questions” again
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:17 PM
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No, because not everyone has kids based on OLD Unless you see all the same people, it’s not a monopoly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:11 PM
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Does sharing and commenting on nudes of your SO count? Because a lot of men do that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:10 PM
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I would say “you get what you give”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:08 PM
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That’s not up to us to decide, and I wouldn’t presume to tell men what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:05 PM
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Whatever the man puts up with
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:01 PM
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That’s not necessary; I’m not in a confined space or hanging around encampments
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:57 PM
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Possible, sure Likely, no
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:55 PM
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You do know that lots of men are cowards and only do it when other men aren’t around, right? Although I have never experienced it in some places, like East Asia, Scandinavia and the Caribbean
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:45 PM
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Most is not all
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:25 PM
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Captain save a ho is mocked for this very reason, so you’re preaching to the choir
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:14 AM
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Reality and history disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:12 AM
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It will, because not oppressing women is better than oppressing them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:53 AM
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No, but it does limit your options, to zero apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:06 AM
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Right, but why do you consider it sexy, if you aren’t actually sexually attracted to yourself. Or are you ? I don’t get turned on by my own body, no. I get turned on by my partners body, and other men’s bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:04 AM
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Why do you think your body is “hot”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:56 AM
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It’s so sad you are forced to stay there, forever. Society truly is oppressive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:55 AM
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You feel good about your body because it looks nice. And who does it look nice to, primarily?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:50 AM
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Oh, you mean the average height of the Asian/Hispanic men in my family, who are all married (some to white women)?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:47 AM
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Yes. It’s the implication/potential Unless you want to fuck yourself, which I kinda doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:44 AM
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It’s a smaller city with a homeless problem, although maybe not nationally famous for it. There are many of those, unfortunately, especially since the opioid epidemic and widening income divide I’m not afraid of these rude interjections, but they’re still not pleasant
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:41 AM
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Not anymore. That trend was based on older marriages; the newer study did not show it Nope, I’m afraid things are different now than they were 100 and even 50 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:39 AM
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Female breadwinners are increasing, so this isn’t true either Marriage rates are low because men aren’t great partners, whether leading or not leading I have no problem with men being the majority of leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:13 AM
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If you’re dressing sexy, it’s to validate yourself via men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:06 AM
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We do it for women because it gets a reaction from men. There’s no reason for straight women to dress sexy for women, other than to prove that they can attract men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:01 AM
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I’m afraid reality, where women are leaders, begs to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:56 AM
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Luckily, that’s not the primary argument against it. But bad sex is still a good argument. Sex based on use is more likely to be unpleasant for the used. And we all know the user doesn’t care about them, only themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:31 AM
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Homeless men and jerks catcalling/harassing me — frequently, because I live in a city. This is what they do to all women, however If I’m by myself at a bar, waiting, occasionally When I was young, rarely, I would get a guy trying to talk to me on public transport, or at stores.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:20 AM
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If your social circle repels women, or at least your type of woman, no
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:08 AM
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A lot of abusers keep their partners by pretending to be weak, helpless, ill, suicidal, addicted and dependent
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:21 AM
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“This does come at the cost of the woman’s freedom, sanity and general happiness” “All at the expense of, evidently, the woman and her freedom”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:20 AM
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You do know that the people I date are men, not women, right ? So it obviously works for men too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:19 AM
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A gaping wound that can only be sutured up with the thread of female oppression?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:43 PM
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Because that’s the context that the sub is meant to discuss. If you mean in general, this isn’t really the place to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:18 PM
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Yes. Because we have entertainment and comfort very cheap, and lots of tech
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:17 PM
1

Why would the routine be remarkable?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:08 PM
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Are women part of “society”?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:08 PM
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If it was common, it wouldn’t be worth commenting on
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 10:49 PM
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Work was where I found the majority of my friends and partners. Even later in life
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 10:35 PM
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I don’t think that based on lack of success on dating apps. I think it based on the fact that they say they don’t and don’t want to socialize I think it doesn’t matter how many friends you have on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 10:19 PM
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Because not having friends or social interaction is a turn off
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 09:40 PM
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Most young couples I know met at school or work
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 09:40 PM
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You got to give it to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 09:11 PM
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Yes, and it provided 3 explanations for the discrepancy. Inflation was only one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 09:07 PM
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No, we didn’t We got the inflation from assuming that a commenters random numbers were real And they aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:57 PM
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I didn’t see you do anything except add inflation to the survey results
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:54 PM
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It can I don’t give out guarantees
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:53 PM
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Who said it was good?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:51 PM
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Nope. It just helps, because it’s normal
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:32 PM
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Because it works, obviously Same reason men do it to women, women do it to women, and men do it to men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:27 PM
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You got your numbers, which were different from the survey results, by assuming inflation, so it doesn’t disprove anything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:23 PM
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Because they often ask how they are supposed to get friends and socialize, since it’s so important, and dating apps/cold approaching/doing nothing aren’t working for them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:19 PM
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The men who come here complaining about women often do not And it’s often the reason they are not successful with women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:17 PM
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What’s considered “perfect” will depend on the beholder, aka the woman the man is interested in If the point is to get a relationship or sex, I mean And if it’s not, I believe your post is off topic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:16 PM
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Their claim that women have higher body counts is not supported by either survey
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:38 PM
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I didn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:33 PM
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Depends on the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:33 PM
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Because I disagree that it’s a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:58 PM
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I don’t. But they still can, because the risk and the rewards are well known The military can be a good decision. It depends on the person Just like a large age gap can. I and many people just believe that such relationships are extremely rare and not optimal
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:57 PM
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Nowhere did I do any of that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:54 PM
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How? By applying, doing and succeeding on an individual level. Leadership isn’t collective by gender Reality disagrees that every woman is subordinate to every man, in every way The scales are no longer tipped in men’s favor, which is why many female leaders, managers, executives, politicians, supervisors and breadwinners exist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:50 PM
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I’m afraid most people and society do not define morality and virtue that way. That is why most people will not agree with you, and not behave like you say you do And you did expect reciprocity. That’s why you consider it a “game” and rage quit when you didn’t get it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:45 PM
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But you did. “In your second study we look at median (which is actually what we're after, we're talking about the average female vs the average male, not the average of all females vs the average of all males), and we see men at 6.3 vs women at 4.3, but if we now account for the 2x inflation we get men at 3.15 instead, compared to women at 4.3.” Women only have a higher count if you cut the male number in half for no reason reason
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:42 PM
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I’m not. I’m asking why men don’t follow their own logic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:35 PM
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Yes, so why don’t men do this regularly? You know, since it’s so good for your sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:25 PM
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I have no idea what you’re trying to say. All I’m saying is that most complainers are dramatic candy-asses who would never put in the effort to do what they threaten
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:42 PM
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We don’t have to assume inflation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:39 PM
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I didn’t In both surveys, male body count was higher
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:22 PM
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And again, I wasn’t talking about you What narcissism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:21 PM
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Just because you can doesn’t mean you should And its better to enter the military young — both for the recruit and the institution
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:14 PM
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Do unto others works pretty well for 99% of situations
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:12 PM
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Below average on both
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:11 PM
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No more than clothes are deceptive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:08 PM
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If women really were masochists, most men would be in prison to get gfs and wives
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:07 PM
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Just because apps exist doesn’t mean they are mandatory
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:02 PM
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The mean doesn’t have to be identical, because people don’t have the same number of partners. And the inflation isn’t assumed to be 2x or 3x or none.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:32 PM
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The mean doesn’t have to be identical, because people don’t have the same number of partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:29 PM
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Do unto others, aka reciprocity, is the basis of morality, so I and most people do not agree And I bet that most people aren’t attacking you, they’re just disagreeing with your values. We don’t have to agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:27 PM
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Yes, and it’s the same for men and women, and doesn’t affect the men and women who do want to lead
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:13 PM
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And I also don’t believe people are lying that much. I just gave the inflation that has to happen for the data to match the claim
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:11 PM
1

Depends on if you think yourself dependent on people Once I realized I wasn’t, everything was much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:08 PM
1

He said 20 for women and 6 for men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:06 PM
1

You can, and most people will think you’re weird, because how would you know? And why would you care? You can see a fat person is fat; anything about their genitals is speculation, and weirdly sexual at that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:04 PM
1

I’ve been prepared to be alone forever; it’s very freeing once you don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:01 PM
1

Not to dismiss your personal situation, but I’ve heard the majority of people make comments like “I’d kill myself if I ever ended up like that” or “I’m gonna take all the drugs and die having sex with hot hookers instead of hooked up to machines like him” As a former healthcare worker, that’s all a bunch of lazy chestbeating, and super annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:57 PM
1

Are they? How can randos know a strangers dick size?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:51 PM
1

It all depends on if you think the numbers that user threw out are reality I do not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:50 PM
2

Depends on how old you are. When I was younger it was normal to use those insults to a man’s face, or use “fat” as someone’s normal name. I’m glad it’s no longer common
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:48 PM
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Leadership is common. It’s not rare. I didn’t say it was easy; I didn’t find it so. It just had to be done, and I committed to doing it for the money and advantages
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:33 AM
1

Sure they do. They can decline to lead and live with the result. But it’s not difficult to lead, since I and many women have done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:18 AM
1

No, it sounds like doing what you want. Which is the point of modern western society
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:06 AM
1

There is no evidence of that, so I do not agree
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:59 AM
1

It isn’t all or nothing. Women are leaders now without being the majority of leaders, sorry to inform you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:55 AM
1

And they don’t have to for women to be leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:46 AM
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Female leaders exist. They don’t have to be a majority of leaders to exist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:42 AM
1

There’s no societal push. There’s just no longer barriers and oppression. And even when there were, women still were leaders, just less so than today
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:28 AM
1

They would match every other dating/social phenomenon if so
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:01 AM
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I assume you wouldn’t want your ONS to lie to you about being a biological female, healthy, not a minor, attractive, sober, alone, unarmed, law abiding, sane….
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:52 PM
3

Good relationships = no drama No drama = boring Having said that, Morticia and Gomez Addams, Marge and Norm (Fargo), Carl and Ellie (Up), the parents in Spy kids are healthy And Annie hall for relationships that don’t work out
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:48 PM
1

Good relationships = no drama No drama = boring
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:19 PM
1

Would “same guy” say he was single or in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:12 PM
6

My relationship wouldn’t change who I believe. I’ve had family members molest me, and acquaintances/friends assault and attempt rape, as have friends of both genders With the evidence given, the dude raped her, although I doubt it’s enough to convict him, even in a plea deal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 09:22 PM
1

So Chad/fuckboys are all cheaters who are in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 09:13 PM
1

So you’re basically out of the casual sex market anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 09:12 PM
1

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6579508/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 09:00 PM
2

How so? There is a problem, and I am applying the solution we apply to many other problems
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:59 PM
1

So you do not value that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:58 PM
1

And the 30% who weren’t looking? Not Chad ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:57 PM
3

What was wrong with my reasoning ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:57 PM
7

Not really. Nobody gave me hate or ridiculed me the way fat people, especially fat men, used to be openly mocked and insulted. Lardass, fatass, fatty and Fat (Name) used to be thrown around a lot, especially towards men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:54 PM
2

This is the place to discuss, not just describe, issues, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:51 PM
3

Don’t you care about men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:47 PM
3

I assure you that “me horny” and “fuck you, bitch” are very easy ideas to have all on your own And very easy to convey with a smartphone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:45 PM
3

Oh, so what should be done about this injustice then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:43 PM
1

80% of women wanna fuck 20% of men, riiiiiiight? If 40% of men are in relationships, and 30% of men are single by choice, then who’s in the remaining 30%?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:43 PM
0

I’m just following your logic to its practical conclusion Manipulation: bad Scamming/addiction: bad Solution: laws and prohibition of bad things
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:40 PM
1

How silly of them to expect that ! From men!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:35 PM
1

Then so is “all my exes cheated on me”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:34 PM
1

All compliments are manipulation, did you know? As are past experiences. Women shouldn’t learn from them! Also, they should choose better without learning
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:32 PM
3

This entire post is hilarious rationalization
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:32 PM
1

Not maliciously, selfishly As if they themselves aren’t doing the exact same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:30 PM
3

Whatever individual woman is being quoted in the OP She is all, and all are she. No exceptions!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:28 PM
2

Whatever individual woman is being quoted in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:27 PM
2

Whatever individual woman is being quoted in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:27 PM
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Solution: compliments are illegal, with heavy fines or incarceration
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:26 PM
1

Hostility or horny stupidity. There’s more than enough of both to go around, did you know ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:23 PM
18

Choice Just like a woman with insecurities I used to be insecure about my body and face, and now I no longer care. Because I’m kenough for me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:20 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/TC5Z1FAVWB Is this statement not always true, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:18 PM
1

Data is available
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:04 PM
1

Why is a relationship less effort than sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:01 PM
3

“All data are lies, except the ones I like”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:00 PM
1

That’s what everyone says. And then they move to begging their spouse or kids to risk prison to kill them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:58 PM
1

Well then it’s not always the same then, is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:56 PM
1

The data disagrees Also, you do know that there are roughly equal numbers of men and women, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:55 PM
1

So having casual sex requires equal effort to a committed relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:59 PM
1

“My feels” aren’t reality, no
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:58 PM
1

Then why is one better than the other ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:32 PM
1

Receipts needed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:41 PM
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Sex and relationships are different goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:40 PM
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Too late
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:40 PM
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Of course. Because extended families also sucked when they were mandatory. Mine does, which is why I no longer talk to them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:18 PM
3

Well, that is not the reality that other women faced in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:17 PM
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Some do. Some don’t. Some can’t Regardless, it still occurs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:15 PM
1

They don’t appear to be true for you, personally
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:14 PM
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I’d be wasting my time too, which I’m not fond of If being honest was better for me, I’d do it. It’s not, so I won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:14 PM
5

If that were true, you guys wouldn’t be whining about nobody fucking you If women wanted to have a gangbang everyday, we could. We just don’t wanna
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:11 PM
3

Did you think you had to marry or else you would starve, be a servant, or sell your body?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:10 PM
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It is in the nature of men to desire sex with as many women as possible. You do not have to chase them to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:22 PM
1

Sure they can. Women leaders and breadwinners are a sizable minority
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:18 PM
1

We currently are and have been for a century
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:10 PM
1

So what about your previous statements? Are they true or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:05 PM
1

So? Doesn’t mean we aren’t leaders Anti-discrimination laws, or rather lack thereof. This can also affect men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:47 PM
1

So then casual is not better than committed ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:41 PM
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But casual sex is better than monogamy because it’s less effort, right? You don’t have to care about, be mindful of and compromise with another person, you just get the sex and physical intimacy that is the most important thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:31 PM
1

There are women currently leading at every level It’s not difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:23 PM
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They don’t have to. We just have to prefer them to not having a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:14 PM
1

But what if you could get better ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:14 PM
1

Sure we can. No evidence that it’s stopping
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:13 PM
7

You guys are the ones who are acting like she is the hive mind, not us
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:13 PM
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Women having experiences, opinions and agency is oppressive, doncha know ? Robot gfs are the way
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:12 PM
1

Ah, so a relationship is worth less than casual sex? Why are you in a relationship then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:04 PM
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It’s funny how Chad suddenly disappears when it’s convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:03 PM
1

We can, because we’re still leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:02 PM
18

Smells like privilege and lack of empathy/imagination “America slaves were had more food, education and legal rights than Africans! Ergo, slavery is better than freedom!”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:02 PM
4

That’s a lot of words to describe settling/beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:00 PM
2

lol, you think social status via a man is a new thing? What do you think arranged marriages were all about ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:58 PM
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Women are servants to these men. Any personhood they have interferes with that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:44 PM
1

Online dating will not decline because it’s easy, convenient, and free
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:41 PM
4

“Guys, are wimmin b lyin?”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:34 PM
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Because now it’s a choice, not survival necessity I can’t believe this needs to be said
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:32 PM
1

Or, they’re doing the fucking around that men profess is the best way to live, especially when you have time, energy and lack of commitments
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:28 PM
1

I’m sure you’ll be singing the same tune if/when you become old, sick, injured or infirm
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:26 PM
1

Reality begs to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:24 PM
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That’s only if casual sex is better than a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:24 PM
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No, I don’t believe people are owed truth or honesty either. It’s nice to get it, but too many people react poorly to it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:23 PM
1

And yet we are
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:53 AM
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But it’s not the same result
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:10 AM
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We can and we are
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:09 AM
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No, that’s why there’s billions of us and the animals we eat and like, and way less of all the others
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:16 AM
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Being ‘interesting’ got you ridiculed and lectured, and worse back when they were teens I’m sure they’d all be happy if you snuck out of the house, got roofied at a bar and ended the night at a police station or hospital /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:50 PM
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Not if half of them aren’t looking for a relationship anyways, which is what they said
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:46 PM
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You can go be homeless or live in a warzone if civ is such a burden to you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:45 PM
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An unsheathed sword is an annoyance to everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:44 PM
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That tends to happen when you wipe out men but keep their women to rape and serve you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:41 PM
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How do you add 68% of women to 54% of men and get 56% for both genders? That would mean men vastly outnumber women in that generation
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:39 PM
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There are if you know how to do math
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:36 PM
5

There was never a time when cold approaching a stranger was the best way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:32 PM
2

If it’s so awful being alone and childless, you’ll do it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:59 PM
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Judging by your constant posting on this topic, I think this a personal opinion not supported by evidence https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/39AQ0kAnk0 https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/S9LrKDHBRA https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/wMISrGu6iu https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/VM8ZkfjziQ
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:25 PM
1

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:21 PM
1

So, waiting to make sure a man likes your brain and not your pussy is using a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:52 PM
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Oh rly? Why’s that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:23 PM
5

You don’t need a family to do things or have human interactions And if your life is meaningless without it that’s on you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:04 PM
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Calling people liars is a good way to protect your own worldview, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:04 PM
3

Are you…supposed to ignore your blood relatives? That’s pretty cold
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:03 PM
2

Btw he hasn’t stopped
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:00 PM
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Most people are friends because they like the other person’s company and the other person likes theirs. That’s the reward/incentive Same for loyalty and reciprocity
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:57 PM
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Suicide rates increase the older you get Suicide rates have been dropping in the young https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:52 PM
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Why wouldn’t they be? They can easily become married and childbearing if they’re unhappy, but married and childbearing women can’t easily undo what they have done
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:55 PM
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Finally. It’s funny how empathy and visualization can be effective, isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:20 PM
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Why do you only care about the menz? And what’s wrong with things changing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:08 PM
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And neither have a lot of Gen Z women. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:56 PM
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We can be leaders without being the majority of leaders Your statements are speculation and conjecture that are not supported by facts
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:53 PM
2

People feel love, loyalty and friendship for reasons and incentives They are not pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:51 PM
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It’s not objective You think effort and improvement are pointless without sex or kids as a goal And plenty of people do not
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:08 PM
5

She didn’t need to; the answer was right in her first comment, and you ignored it Typical
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:40 PM
0

You misspelled “laws and law enforcement”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:34 PM
1

In voluntary interactions, the standards that are not met are unreasonable, and the ones that are met are reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:26 PM
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Women and men struggle for the same reason: no one wants to give them what they want at the level they are willing to put in effort
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:25 PM
2

Pointless is in the eye of the beholder. Which, believe it or not, is not always you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:22 PM
2

Aw, that’s disappointing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:21 PM
3

Great, does that mean you’re not going to be around anymore? Because you’ve said you understand many times and yet keep coming back for attention
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:12 PM
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The opinions of other people are required for any type of insecurity There’s nothing special about women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:09 PM
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Yup And you’re exactly the type of man she’s talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:58 PM
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If that were true, you’d all have women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:57 PM
2

Not everyone wants or prioritizes those things. That is my answer to your question
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:54 PM
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We’re talking another what men say, not what women say
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:43 PM
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She just explained that in her comment, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:10 PM
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That he’s the male counterpart of women who do the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:05 PM
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When you’re not the one getting rules broken for, it’s wrong. If you are, it’s right
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:09 PM
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Of course we are, because you guys always complain about and want prizes for it And because we’re told that’s our purpose in life, to civilize men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:08 PM
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I don’t have to agree that something that hasn’t and shows no evidence of happening will happen
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:59 AM
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An explanation is not a purpose, obligation or requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:57 AM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/dataclysm-shows-men-are-attracted-to-women-in-their-20s-2014-10 https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.html https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whats-the-average-age-difference-in-a-couple/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/12/04/tying-the-knot-again-chances-are-theres-a-bigger-age-gap-than-the-first-time-around/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:33 AM
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Men’s bad behavior causes us to want better
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:45 AM
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Citations needed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:44 AM
3

You do know that most women want a husband, right? We just would like to choose him ourselves It’s weird that you can’t comprehend this. Like I said before, would you prefer to choose your job and be free to leave it whenever you like, or be assigned it for life ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:42 AM
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You can choose to, yes. But you don’t have to. For example, I don’t have to entertain a man’s napoleon complex or penis insecurity, and he is free to dump me for it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:42 AM
2

Why not? People who don’t have or want kids like to be cool, rich and admired. And sometimes have sex with other people See: rich or famous people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:40 AM
2

If that were true, things would be exactly the same
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:37 AM
3

Status/success/winning/ego is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:28 AM
0

You won’t die if you don’t reproduce, so no. And maintaining your own life is your choice; nature doesn’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:25 AM
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I guess you have the privilege of not understanding what lack of autonomy is Perhaps you wouldn’t mind someone else choosing who you marry or what job you will have or where and who you will live with
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:23 AM
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We don’t have to want or like or care about what you want or like or care about
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:21 AM
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It’s not my preferred activity. I’d probably be annoyed if my SO was a cinephile. My bff and her SO are concert junkies. I wouldn’t like that either
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:06 PM
-2

Red pill is the cause, not the effect
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:04 PM
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Machines are replacing humans, and we’re all for it Because human beings are unpredictable, expensive, lazy, irrational, lack durability, and selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:03 PM
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And women get fucked in the front end or the back end. Yay, equality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:02 PM
1

They’re bitter that Chad is fuckin but not them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 04:10 PM
5

“Choose better” “Nice guys finish last” “Daddy issues” “Princess”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:52 PM
-1

There is a norm, and if you’re below it, people will judge. This is not gender specific
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:47 PM
1

Only if it benefits me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:19 PM
2

People often meet through common interests, especially their jobs I often wish my partner and I shared more interests too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:18 PM
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Why would average women be landing chad? I thought Chad doesn’t give mids commitment Why do you assume Chads are gross, lazy asshats?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:05 AM
1

So, you get sex and gfs?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 05:54 AM
1

Rate yourself, then, and justify the rating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 05:53 AM
0

Red pill is self improvement motivated by misogyny. Without the misogyny, it’s just self improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 05:50 AM
2

Of course there’s mutual attraction, especially between attractive people
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 05:48 AM
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Men who want to date a gender instead of an individual with experiences should avoid dating sexual assault victims, whatever their sexual orientation FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:23 AM
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Groping is sexual assault. So is attempted penetration, with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:20 AM
7

You can’t assume OP thinks that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:19 AM
-2

Is it a woman’s responsibility to turn a man on?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:18 AM
1

Too many women have had the same experience
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:52 AM
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All types. All I can conclude is that if a man feels comfortable enough to vent about loneliness to you, he’s comfortable enough to ask for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 09:17 PM
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I’m just reporting my experience Any time a man said he was lonely to me, he meant sexless. Because he would try to fuck me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:18 PM
1

It’s facts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:15 PM
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No, because we live in reality, not a hypothetical
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:15 PM
1

In my experience, men say lonely when they really mean sexless
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:59 PM
3

The original commenter didn’t, because they used the word “uniform” instead of “predictable”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:43 PM
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It’s a euphemism for sex vs money
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:04 PM
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How they think, obviously. Doing is only part of it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:01 PM
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No, all you have to do is understand that “predictable” doesn’t mean “uniform” or “universal”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:00 PM
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If women were uniform, married and single women would vote the same And men wouldn’t be confused and asking what women want and mean
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:44 PM
1

There’s only so many hours in a day
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:43 PM
1

There’s always a human limit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:32 PM
1

I promise you that no one has an issue with legal red pill actions. The attitude and premise, not so much
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:29 PM
3

Plenty of men claim it is, and even more prevalent Don’t you believe men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:25 PM
1

You were the one who changed the subject. Which was extortion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:19 PM
1

Yes, I don’t have to do what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:16 PM
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My experience is that love is a feeling Which is backed up by evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:16 PM
1

I don’t need to address it; you just butted in and demanded I do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:12 PM
2

You just brought it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:08 PM
5

I agree with the first sentence but not the second. The fact that they don’t really pressure their members is the reason they’re not so visible anymore. Sure, they insult “beta cucks”, but there’s no way for them to actually police followers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:06 PM
3

The reasoning behind self improvement is red pill, not the self improvement And that stuff is the bitter, misogynist part
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:04 PM
1

So complaining and unhappiness can’t get worse ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:00 PM
2

That’s not the claim the top commenter was making
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:59 PM
2

Yeah, so we’re not there yet
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:48 PM
1

That’s not the scenario the top commenter described He says that women will fuck men because men invented the internet and other things
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:46 PM
2

They’ll sleep with men because men invented the internet ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:44 PM
1

I thought men were way thirstier than women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:41 PM
8

So you’re having casual sex and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:41 PM
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20-30% is significant
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:40 PM
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Great; no problem then
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:25 PM
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Date short or similar height women, like all the short guys I know do. Also, you do know ethnicities other than “white” exist, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:13 PM
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I don’t have time to worship a man, I have my own shit to maintain and take care of
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:11 PM
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No, your Reddit history indicates you have BPD That is a serious condition if untreated And people are more likely to use other people to fulfill them when their own lives aren’t fulfilling, busy, interesting, or productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:54 PM
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Normally I would agree, but in your case, your OP is based on the assumption that you are attractive People who are attractive get sex and relationships https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/w4jiwZs35r https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/SAr30GhGO7 https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/vyMGoKiDGl https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/2uzgvYGzm8 https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/iTFLhf0PG9
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:43 PM
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Hey loop! Changed it up a bit; congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:39 PM
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Sure, if you get your own life And treatment for your mental issues
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:37 PM
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Emotions aren’t that big a deal, lol. Everyone has them Just don’t make them other people’s problem and no one will care Also, most people aren’t a big weepy mess of brain chemicals The emotions I feel most often are happiness, surprise/amusement, annoyance, stress and frustration, and everyone is allowed to express those
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:32 PM
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But that’s facts. You don’t like facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:29 PM
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Love is not feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:12 PM
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I’m talking about now, not 1970
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:36 PM
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If it’s not shallow, it’s short-lived
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:34 PM
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The actual solution is women giving men reason to step their game up through deprivation. But women are too weak and needy to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:31 PM
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Love is positive feeling brain chemicals associated with an individual human. The trigger for release of these chemicals varies widely. The person who inspires the trigger does not have to reciprocate, although reciprocity is desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:29 PM
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Extortion is effective?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:26 PM
4

If your ideas and fun are offensive, perverted and inappropriate to more than half of humanity, they’re not interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:26 PM
2

If every woman was unhappy and complained, you’d know
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:22 PM
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Unfortunately, “fuck me or no interwebs” is not a effective strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:21 PM
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“A case for a conservative rich daughter marrying a rich man so she doesn’t have to work as much”, more like I’m confused; is beta bux actually the RP goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:15 PM
5

You really can’t imagine why women respond better to restrained politeness than desperate thirst?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:14 PM
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When they don’t complain, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:12 PM
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And yet, hetero couples meet at work all the time And “hetero” means men, did you know ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:06 PM
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When they’re happy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:00 AM
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Most women are not housewives, and even for those that are, being an involved and above average parent of multiple kids with multiple activities, plus doing almost all of the domestic upkeep, is a part time job at least
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:59 AM
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I’m not trying to convince women. I’m just showcasing common conflicting advice that men here dispense
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:56 AM
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If they knew, they wouldn’t complain
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:54 AM
5

Settling is in the eye of the settler, not other people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:48 AM
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Then why are women complaining if they never settle?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:39 AM
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And how do you know their husbands think they’re better? Cuz if you’re married to a fattie, how good can you really be?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:38 AM
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So, they’re married to Chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:31 AM
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Of course they do, they don’t get rich chads
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:28 AM
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Woman: my husband doesn’t pull his weight PPD: shoulda chosen better Woman: divorces PPD: no, not like that! marriage is a scam!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:03 AM
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They do. And then you guys complain about “divorce rape”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:01 AM
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Luckily, most people are not addicted, just like most people are not alcoholics
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:18 AM
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Porn is often easier and more interesting than real sex. All entertainment is designed to be better or more interesting than most of real life. Otherwise we wouldn’t watch it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:15 AM
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When women fuck, they’re usually fucking a man, did you know? Because non-straights are less than 10% of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:11 AM
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The unsuccessful do complain, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:35 PM
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Of course. Just like there are men who expect to be treated like Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:30 PM
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Did you know that if it works for a woman, it also works for a man, because most relationships are heterosexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:28 PM
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In the US…yes. Btw, you will need to take time off work if your hours are 9-5. And most people have more than one kid
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:57 PM
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I’m saying that women don’t like that. None of this was about you, ya narcissist
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:53 PM
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There are things in between tiger mom and Disney dad
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:52 PM
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Of course it is. Bros hang out all the time, and usually bring their partners if they’re not trying to fuck other women You can suggest other places, did you know? In any case, I’m sure whatever I say, you’ll have an excuse for why it’s not feasible
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:51 PM
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I’m just saying what worked for me and many others
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:49 PM
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Bro, good luck getting your kids into college if they’re not extremely self motivated
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:20 PM
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I know, I read your comments
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:19 PM
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You, too, can create gatherings. I did all the time, using alcohol and food
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:14 PM
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We’re not just talking about chores, but also giving a shit, especially regarding the children that men claim to want
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:12 PM
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Not at all. Men here are always complaining about women thinking that men care about things other than their body and service https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/D6mpT0FEVG https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/uVN6ff5BLZ https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/g14ABP4pYo https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/ljlxLrRt6b https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/sXtyQ754PR https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/muzJ8l9tG9 https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/LtDoYfF…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:07 PM
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To use someone’s body? Yes, it’s expensive, but you’re paying for them to go away after too Might as well stick to porn
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:06 PM
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If you want to make it about money, you’re certainly welcome to
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:04 PM
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Almost all, but I’m middle class. That’s the class where that’s most likely to happen Housewives are either in the top or bottom income brackets
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:01 PM
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Ok. You do know that men can be social, right? Sometimes even involving women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:55 PM
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I’m not the one saying “Can’t fuck a degree/career” Men are Don’t you believe men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:52 PM
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Yes, maybe. But for most couples where this is an issue, that’s usually not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:50 PM
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He specifically said he wanted friends to introduce him to available women. If he’s a shit friend that won’t happen
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:49 PM
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Because men just don’t care about it Just like they don’t care about our jobs, education, status, politics, achievements, interests, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:47 PM
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You’re gonna have a great time finding a partner then, if that’s what you think raising a family entails
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:41 PM
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Women like it when men don’t try and fuck every woman in their vicinity
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:40 PM
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Then you need a hooker, not a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:38 PM
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You can edit too Or delete
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:35 PM
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Then you must have colleagues The commercial area nearest to me has a community org, and they plan stuff, gossip, look out for each other, and hold/sponsor events weekly I’ve met all my local merchants at block parties and community events, as well as many neighbors
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:31 PM
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Because it works to mens advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:25 PM
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Among marginals? Sure Among gen pop women ? Naw
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:22 PM
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I hope you have 1 child who obeys you perfectly, has no disabilities or conditions, gets straight As at public school, never gets sick, does no activities and has no friends, a kick ass concierge health service, a partner that loves being the only one shopping, cleaning and cooking, and an on call babysitter (doesn’t exist) or family member Oh, and no social circle of your own Or, have a housewife Because that’s the level of effort you seem to anticipate putting in
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:45 PM
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Maybe if you’re married to a housewife If both partners work, both partners are supposed to do this. And many men don’t, and then are blindsided by divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:41 PM
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I mean anyone — family, work, community, friends If men want to socialize only with single, childless men, their way is usually fine. It’s just extremely exclusive and narrow And I see men complaining all the time that they “lose touch” with these friends that they don’t talk to. They are often supplanted by family and work Yes, social events. Where you socialize. I thought men were lonely or something; guess that’s not true
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:26 PM
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It’s generally not, but the truth is not palatable to either gender, which is why it’s blamed
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:21 PM
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Yah. Keep in mind that I am mid, not feminine, not nice, and have very little interest in my and my partner’s appearance Beggars can’t be picky choosers
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:03 PM
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Caring about and taking care of other people, especially with regard to socializing — scheduling, researching, planning, supplying, cleaning, procuring, coordinating, organizing, communicating, accommodating, managing, maintaining Because it is “not in the job title”, aka extra effort, lots of men just don’t do it. And then complain about not being cared for, invited, included, or considered, or having burned out, annoyed women in their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:51 PM
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Work has always been my primary social group, both past and present
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:50 PM
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I am including women, that’s why I listed “social media”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:45 PM
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I don’t date men based on sex. I date them based on company And my standard for company is “not repulsive to me”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:28 PM
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That’s what people who broadcast their personal opinions are
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:25 PM
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We nag/lecture men enough for what they do to us. Let them handle their own dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:05 PM
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It can be, but it doesn’t matter — voluntary personal labors of love are considered a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:52 PM
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I know you didn’t. But that’s what attention seekers want
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:50 PM
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That’s what casual sex and breaking rules is about
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:40 PM
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We don’t need to excuse your laziness or lack of motivation. We should, however, just move on instead of complaining about it, since it’s your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:35 PM
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1) then men can change hypergamy just as easily as women 2) yes, because 1)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:34 PM
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Yes, it doesn’t mean “stop chasing the same guy”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:32 PM
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When most of your free time is spent on video games, social media and porn, this is the natural result
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:15 PM
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Lovely, deliberate obtuseness
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:46 PM
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If all you care about is sex, why would you care about “ending up” with them ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:20 PM
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I promise you that you treating a person thusly will not go well
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:16 PM
1

That just means that being rich is important, not that being thief makes you rich
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:32 AM
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No idea, because I’m not a gold digger, and I don’t know any gold diggers But I do assume that there will be scavengers at every level
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:23 AM
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Unlike a sociopath or criminal, corporations actually do provide a desired product
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:20 AM
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Well, that’s a shame. You should tell OP that crime doesn’t pay, because he certainly seems to think it does
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:18 AM
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Who said this guy was paying? Sounds more like he was a pimp or something
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:57 AM
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Right, sometimes it’s more about status, and we call that social climbing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:56 AM
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Isn’t pussy worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:55 AM
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You can welcome your new Chinese and European overlords then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:39 AM
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It does if you have something else to offer, like power, money or status
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:37 AM
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That’s the range I found off a google search. Different studies, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:35 AM
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Yes. So, be like ‘shawn?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:34 AM
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No, that’s what women are always told when they aren’t happy with their partner’s actions and behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:34 AM
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If you’re going to frame hypergamy as universal, then everyone is looking for the “best deal”. “The best deal” just tends to differ between genders, and also individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:24 AM
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In your experience, are these numbers true? Percentage of autistic adults living independently: 5-20% Percentage of autistic adults that have some sort of job: 15-40%
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:49 AM
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Things have been changing for a century
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:21 AM
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It’s called golddigging. Of course we know it exists What we don’t agree with is the claim that we’re all golddiggers
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:11 AM
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Not at all. OP is a married man who apparently cares about what people think about his coffee or running habits. Doesn’t seem normal Edit: whoops, not op; I meant the top commenter
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:02 AM
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I don’t expect women to lead equally, I expect them to do what they want Leading isn’t difficult, especially at the lower levels. I’ve been a manager and leader, and also a breadwinner. It’s not hard
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:00 AM
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I’m afraid women are still leaders despite not being the majority of leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:48 AM
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And you don’t either, because there is no evidence of female leadership decreasing There used to be a societal push for men to lead. By making it law that women couldn’t own property, sign contracts, get an education or get a job. Now that that push is gone, women have increased their leadership participation
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:26 AM
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And yet women are 30% of leaders, managers, and breadwinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:18 AM
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Really? Married men like OP aren’t infamous for becoming complacent and lazy? Men never get old and set in their ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:17 AM
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It’s not challenging. Women are just not interested or already in a relationship. And they’re not interested because they’re not as horny Marriage was about duty — to your god, your community and your family. Women are and can be leaders at all levels. There’s no rule currently saying we have to be a certain percentage of leaders to be leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:51 AM
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Then who are they messaging?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:34 PM
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People don’t stay first gen forever
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:47 PM
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Be immoral
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:33 PM
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I dunno, the rich people I know are pretty weird, although insanely busy/have ants in the pants
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:32 PM
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I thought only women lied?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:31 PM
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😂🤣😝
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:30 PM
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Sadly, time flows, and only in one direction
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:29 PM
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You can report them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:27 PM
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He’s not going anywhere. The will of the/enough people is that he gets away with it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:26 PM
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You will until your first tooth abscess or kidney stone. Or bad winter
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:24 PM
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What about businesses and corporations? Or institutions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:23 PM
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So if reputation matters to you, why would you do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:22 PM
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Ok, if it’s more effective, why aren’t you doing it ? And you certainly aren’t the first to conclude this, so why does this matter anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:19 PM
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What does it say then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:17 PM
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You don’t have “evidence”, just reasoning, which I am questioning And you’ve dodged confirming whether you even follow the view that you prescribe, ie, sociopathy is better
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:00 PM
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Your question wasn’t about men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:58 PM
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If you need hyperbole to make your point, your point is weak
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:57 PM
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Doing “whatever you want” is what toddlers, infants and dictators/tyrants do For us adult normies who do not possess mandated authority, there are consequences for doing “whatever I want” I bet you actually don’t do “whatever I want” if there are actual consequences, like getting fired after telling the boss that they are a moron
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:40 PM
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Why choose someone who tests you, doesn’t take things seriously, and doesn’t take accountability (which is what jokes are) ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:37 PM
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You don’t need to be a sociopath to approach women a lot. Are salespeople and beggars sociopaths? So are you going to become a rapist/criminal/sociopath, since not being one hasn’t gotten you what you want ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:34 PM
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So there’s no reason to lie about being red pill when you aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:32 PM
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“What if he says he's 'Red Pill' but that totally just doesn't seem like him based on who he is and how he treats you.” What would be the advantage of thinking a man is lying in the situation you described?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:48 PM
2

Telling women you are RP will get you more casual sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:33 PM
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It is. Because you were falsely accusing me of prescribing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:14 PM
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Prescribing is using “should” I have not done that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:08 PM
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If that were true, rapists, criminals and sociopaths would have the most sexual success, and most men would strive to emulate them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:04 PM
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That’s basic adulting and partnership, ie, not being selfish or self-centered, sorry to inform you Or would it be ok if it was their job or pet or child or parent that was doing the “whipping”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:03 PM
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The same reason so many women are Because both controlling and weak people exist
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:01 PM
1

Describing isn’t prescribing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:56 PM
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Initiating and approaching is not hard to do. Women just don’t have to, because men are thirsty Dating is less than a century old, and still isn’t practiced everywhere Leadership and dominance by men only isn’t natural or inevitable, because men had to put in laws and social pressures to make it so Procreation isn’t obligated. You won’t die if you don’t reproduce
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:45 PM
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I’m not, I’m explaining
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:21 PM
1

So? Dating is a very small part of our existence
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:18 PM
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Yes he was, that was the point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:09 PM
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I feel no pressure to drink my coffee a certain way or run half marathons. And I’m part of the Female HivemindTM; how can this be?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:07 PM
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“Choose better” “No, not like that “
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:05 PM
1

And yet they complain
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:03 PM
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Initiating doesn’t make money. Paying for premium access does. And that’s what women weren’t doing And doesn’t change the growing number of female breadwinners and leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:02 PM
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Yes, many men complain about not getting what they want, and having to give what women want And why would you do that, if the person doesn’t want to give it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:59 PM
1

Men do complain about paying, initiating, and interacting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:58 PM
3

No, I just have and desire voluntary, not involuntary, relationships and interactions
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:57 PM
1

Paying for more matches is obeying and submitting, and women did not want to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:56 PM
1

Demand that women give them money and attention? It happens —- or rather, they complain about the lack of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:49 PM
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The dynamic is changed, that’s why a lot of men are unhappy. Because women won’t obey
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:46 PM
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Only if they demand it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:45 PM
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It’s funny that men want stupid, shallow, whiny women so bad. You know, the ones who get fucked by users and abusers I don’t get mad that simps, drug dealers, fuckboys, and jerks don’t want me because….I don’t want them either
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:42 PM
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If you don’t act like a person is a thing, you won’t be entitled, at least as far as relationships and sex are concerned. Pretty simple
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:32 PM
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There doesn’t have to be “enough women”, whatever that means Bumble is still around
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:31 PM
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I don’t need to know about my partners previous sex stuff, unless it was criminal or affects me/other people
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:11 PM
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Acting like a person is a thing, for starters
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:06 PM
2

RP thinks that RP is just the actions It’s not. It’s the reasoning behind the actions that’s RP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:04 PM
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Why would a man lie about being RP? Why would I want to keep dating a man who lied or joked about being RP? Aren’t women supposed to be “choosing better”, aka not men who hold sexist or misogynistic views, or who think they are funny/unserious?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:59 PM
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Men are so unserious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:47 PM
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Men who are moderately to severely autistic probably aren’t capable of complaining anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:40 PM
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No one said it was, just that we don’t bother as many people with it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:39 PM
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Some are, some aren’t. Just enough to cause confusion. And lots of men certainly are confused
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:39 PM
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And plenty of men and women don’t fall into those stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:35 PM
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No, the question asked about previous partners
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:34 PM
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If you don’t ask, why should she? Do you feel guilty about not answering questions that aren’t asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:08 AM
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I didn’t. Societies don’t always view male-female relationships and interactions as leader-follower. Individual women and men don’t always view it that way either, especially in romantic relationships. Women have always been leaders, just not as much as they are now Leadership is neither uncommon nor difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:06 AM
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I did rebut your points
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:48 AM
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I didn’t. I just don’t agree with it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:36 AM
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I don’t have to agree with you, no. Especially when the evidence doesn’t either
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:29 AM
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We don’t need to care about non-mainstream content Men will pay for female bodies. Female minds and experiences, not so much. This is consistent with the devaluation of those things in a partner, both sexual and romantic I don’t care about equality of outcome, just the truth. Which money clarifies very effectively I don’t consider women victims of men in this case. They’re just simply not of interest or relevance to men, outside of their bodies, as men themselves tell us
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:28 AM
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There have been women leaders throughout history, when society was even more hostile to their authority. Gender relations are also often portrayed as partnerships, not as leader/follower, particular in monogamy And again, “most” doesn’t mean “all”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:22 AM
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So, that’s a made up number. Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:25 AM
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Why do we need to discourage them, if they’re not being rude or pushy? What if women want to approach men ? Should no one be able to sell things to strangers, invite them to events or activities, or ask them for help?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:24 AM
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And that number comes from?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:21 AM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:15 AM
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Initiating is not leading. Dating is mostly supplication to women, who have the final say on most interactions Again, “most” doesn’t mean “all”, and “fewer” doesn’t mean “none”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:11 AM
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It been over a decade, so I think things are fine
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:05 AM
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Of course they do. They are bosses, teachers, trainers, instructors, breadwinners, managers, parental figures, heads of households, primary caretakers, executives, elected officials, appointed officials, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:03 AM
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The data does not agree
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:58 AM
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I’ve been in a relationship for many years, as has pretty much everyone in my social circle You get priority when you give priority; to do otherwise is to risk exploitation
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:57 AM
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It’s pretty close to a third, if not a third. That’s a sizeable minority Everybody has to lead. I’ve been in management for many years; it ain’t that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:56 AM
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So? It doesn’t have to be equal to exist
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:52 AM
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And yet, many don’t. The mom, parenting, relationship, divorce and abuse subs are full of partners who suck Or, I could just look at the relationships in my own life, where women are doing most of the management, support and childcare, despite also working full time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:51 AM
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I don’t think so, because men like comfort, entertainment, convenience, freedom, wealth and not dying just as much as women. And societies that have all those things will always win
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:49 AM
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Sure, they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:46 AM
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Hasn’t happened yet. It’s only been increasing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:42 AM
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Of course they will. We currently lead way more than in the past, which was near zero
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:40 AM
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I don’t expect women to lead in equal or greater numbers than men It would be fine if it happens, but it doesn’t need to for women to continue to be leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:34 AM
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That is why lying, usually by omission, exists. You think I and most women interrogate our partners about who they fucked and what they did ? Unless you make it my problem, I don’t care or want to know
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:17 AM
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It does because about 30% of leaders and breadwinners are women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:15 AM
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No, because the genders prioritize sex and relationships differently and in opposition No woman has to date to get sex, while men insist that they have to
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:15 AM
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It has to be about money, because that’s why men’s content is mainstream. Because women will pay for male authors, actors, musicians, comedians, athletes, YouTubers, etc., but men will not do the same for women This lack of interest in women’s content is unsurprising if you assume that 1) masculinity is often defined as being “antifemale”, 2) the subordinate/unprivileged have an interest in understanding the dominant/privileged, but not vice versa. This is also supported by the repeated assertio…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:11 AM
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Yes, that’s why a lot of relationships begin in social groups. All of mine did
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:20 AM
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Of course they can Female breadwinners and male caretakers are increasing every year. And the easiest way to loosen gender norms is with money. Men used to be teachers, secretaries and assistants; women used to be the professional cooks and “computers”. What changed? Money
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:18 AM
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Rejection, vulnerability, humiliation, submission, etc But I’m not afraid you’ll say no. I’m afraid you’ll say yes, and then waste my time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:09 AM
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Because it’s logical. Men are less picky, women are more picky. Men want sex more, women want relationships more And whoever cares less usually wins
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:07 AM
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The opposite of your assertion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:58 PM
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We can see which intelligent ambitious men prioritize looks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:58 PM
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It gets you worse relationships, or none at all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:57 PM
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And we can tell who with our eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:54 PM
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Yes, that’s due to thirst And we’re not as thirsty
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:51 PM
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Not in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:51 PM
2

Well, it is. That’s why we say we’re “working on ourselves”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:46 PM
2

Intelligent, ambitious men still want hot, and are more likely to get it due to said intelligence and ambition
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:42 PM
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“Belly full and balls empty” “I can’t fuck her degree/job”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:38 PM
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Because that’s what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:30 PM
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If you’re making posts on your own personal decisions you are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:30 PM
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That’s what men say. I believe them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:28 PM
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And I pointed out all the subs where men are capable of not being misogynist while discussing men’s issues And if you want to be misogynist, Twitter, Facebook, 4Chan, Parler, Telegram and Truthsocial would be happy to accommodate you, as would r/whereareallthegoodmen, r/pussypassdenied, r/conservative, r/redscarepod, r/jordanpeterson, and any of the numerous anti-woke subs
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:26 PM
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Because men don’t care about women’s job, skills, achievements, connections, status, education, or interests Just what she looks like
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:18 PM
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“They don’t think it be like it is, but it do”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:15 PM
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No, that’s what people are telling them to do
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:11 PM
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You don’t have to listen to self centered or misandrist women I certainly don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:06 PM
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We know why you don’t want to approach Just like I know why I don’t do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:58 PM
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Money is objective
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:56 PM
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You don’t understand that “not being in a relationship” isn’t the same as “giving up on relationships altogether”?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:56 PM
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Because frustration about difficulties in life regarding women are very easy to convert into anger and hostility
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:54 PM
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You asked the question, I answered The reason foreveralone, mensrights, askmen, oney, deadbedrooms leftwingmaleadvocates, are still around, while all the other male focused subs were banned or quarantined, is because they police misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:52 PM
1

Not to the money makers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:49 PM
0

“Choose better”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:48 PM
5

That’s not giving up
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:48 PM
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Being single, like lots of women are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:32 PM
5

No complaints heard, no advice given
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:31 PM
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Improve their standards? Sure And women are always aware that hotter is better. Even I was forced to do it, although more for professional than romantic reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:31 PM
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Better safe than sorry. Especially since they’ve given you a warning Because the red pill outlook is predicated on the assumption that 1) society is against men/favors women and 2) women are spoiled, entitled, selfish children
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:30 PM
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I had a much harder time than most of my friends dating because of the behaviors and choices I described. Attraction isn’t that hard, judging by the number of mids, fatties and uggos in relationships. And yes, I mean men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:28 PM
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People have to be told because lots of other people don’t reciprocate, and not just in romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:16 PM
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No. And, unlike women, men can use sex workers to gain experience
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:16 PM
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Date women who are willing to, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:09 PM
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You can’t, unless he says so or leaves evidence And plenty do
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:08 PM
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You’re told to self improve because you’re complaining about being alone or not treated like Chad Women are told to drop or raise their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:07 PM
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Of course it is. Not simping, being willing to walk away, and not counting on “niceness” are definite advantages that many men don’t employ, to their detriment It really is not hard to see what other people wear and how they style themselves and mimic it. That’s what my current partner does In my job, plenty of average dudes who aren’t particularly great at anything are just fine and in relationships. Ditto with my family and friends. Even the young people I know are not particularly notable in …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:04 PM
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Can I convince you that men are considered mainstream/default while women are gendered/minority? No, apparently not, even though all the marketers and producers know that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:54 PM
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If man is default, women is niche
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:46 PM
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An average-faced man can do “fine”. And I’m fine doing fine, aka settling. I don’t need to fuck a ton of hoes I can employ fashion and use cosmetics, I just don’t have the aesthetic interest and motivation that most women do. Male fashion is so basic that anyone can do it Of course those things, aka confidence, dominance, emotional reserve, bossiness, not simping and not being desperate, help you in dating. That’s masculine behavior, and what more women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:18 PM
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Nope. I have a pretty good body and below average face, and I’m not motivated to dress up either with cosmetics and fashion/style I’m also not charming or empathetic or emotional, and dump friends and partners easily. People do like my competence, skills and leadership, but find me brusque, blunt, harsh and too logical Which would make me a better man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:03 PM
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Being boss and masculine is only attractive if you’re also attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:00 PM
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Appearance wise too
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:43 PM
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Teach us how to be perfectly efficient, plant people!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:10 PM
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I know, that’s why I told her to beg for marriage OR praise you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:07 PM
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You wouldn’t be so confused about why people do things if you assumed this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:06 PM
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Plenty of people, especially successful ones, don’t need internet strangers to validate their decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:06 PM
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Yes, I know. All OP is pointing out is that previous stats only cared about who was abused, not who did the abusing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:05 PM
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https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/07/j-k-rowling-used-a-male-pseudonym-to-publish-the-cuckoo-s-calling-stop-hiding-j-k.html https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/jul/09/why-do-so-few-men-read-books-by-women https://drjarryd.medium.com/the-gender-play-gap-fdbf39d14c6a https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/smj.3575 https://www.mercurynews.com/2013/09/27/tv-producers-think-boys-wont-watch-girl-heroines/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:31 PM
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Pointing out your focus on my irrelevant experience is not bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:16 PM
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You’re the one deflecting from your own OP
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:01 PM
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We’re not talking about me, especially since I don’t look for support from men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:59 PM
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Yes, because much of masculinity involves misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:45 PM
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Cow, milk
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:44 PM
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So you get disease at equal rates regardless of measures and treatments? Wow, I guess we can throw modern medicine out the window. You first, though; I like my condoms, testing, screening, antivirals and antibiotics
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:41 PM
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Oh? So why do many diseases make comebacks ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:39 PM
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Plenty of places are supportive if you’re not hostile towards or resentful of women Which is hard to do, because women are the cause of male singledom And what about your bros, bro? Where are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:37 PM
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I assure you that I am neither pretty nor feminine, nor young
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:34 PM
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The data shows that men are more promiscuous, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:30 PM
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Women should date who they want, as long as they’re not hurting anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:19 PM
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Fine, as long as they aren’t a dick about it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:39 PM
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It’s ok to want a male if you aren’t male
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:39 PM
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I think that it is the opposite of the cultural narratives that marriage is a prison for men, and that true love with one person is the best thing ever
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:37 PM
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This is called settling, and is common knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:35 PM
1

Foreveralone seems to be doing just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:34 PM
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The birth rate is due to work culture, not the more recent gender divide The gender divide is also partially, if not mostly, due to conscription
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:33 PM
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I don’t, but it works Just like I don’t focus on my appearance, but I know it works
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:32 PM
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Same thing, did you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:30 PM
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Easier. I am bad at being feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:30 PM
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All love is conditional. Even that for kids
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:29 PM
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I like being around men I don’t like that this inevitably results in them hitting on me Thus, I am forced to avoid them, or at least markedly limit my interactions with them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:29 PM
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No, women don’t have to be the same as men for women to be leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:28 PM
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Yes, it can be earned. Women can be leaders, and are
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:50 AM
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So? Doesn’t change who’s doing the abusing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:18 AM
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I consider them the same
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:14 AM
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I don’t. Again, the point isn’t domination but freedom and choice
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:13 AM
1

So then it won’t increase marriage or baby production
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:10 AM
1

Your comment didn’t provide much evidence of that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:57 AM
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No reason to think that, when all the evidence says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:55 AM
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It’s already an improvement from the past, and continues to increase. I see no reason to change things if things are going in the right direction anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:31 AM
1

So such men have either given up, or erroneously think that such behavior is attractive But it is impossible that they do these things because they want to
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:30 AM
1

No one said we need to be equal leaders, including me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:25 AM
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No, we just decided that adultery wasn’t worth punishing We can hold different standards for different things
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:23 AM
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Anecdotes and feelings are often biased, and logic is not always correct. And I don’t see the logic behind women being more promiscuous
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:14 AM
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I don’t have to. You should be able to tell me why men do these things if they are unattractive to women, since you made the claim that everything men do is to attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:12 AM
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We don’t have to do those things, or do them to the same degree to be leaders The existence of female leaders and egalitarian/breadwinner women is evidence against only men being leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:09 AM
2

There’s a lot of other things besides X and Y
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:04 AM
2

I don’t think men would agree with you that everything they do is for pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:31 AM
1

There’s no proof that that’s the case
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:31 AM
1

If the only proof of that occurring that you have is bumble, I’m not convinced
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:29 AM
3

So anecdotes, feelings and logic are the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:29 AM
1

Money
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:28 AM
3

Where’s your data then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:18 AM
1

Receipts needed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:17 AM
1

Receipts not found
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:13 AM
1

Quotas are uncommon, and not enough to reverse leadership trends or earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:13 AM
1

So? Doesn’t mean you’ll go without if you have a robo girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:11 AM
1

Doesn’t mean they’re more promiscuous than millennial or gen X women And where’s your proof of that anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:10 AM
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Yes There’s no indication that female leadership is declining in any meaningful way Bumble is not a significant indicator
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:08 AM
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If two data points don’t conflict, I’d say that’s better than one
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:06 AM
1

So? All other, much more direct and important measures of leadership, like actual leader, show a continued increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:04 AM
2

I said that’s how it can agree with the data indicating that gen z is having less sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:03 AM
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They didn’t make money because women weren’t buying premium memberships like Tinder gold Because women didn’t need to
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:00 AM
4

Yes, so?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:58 AM
1

I’ve never heard of any man buying a more expensive car to get a woman. I have heard of them buying lots of gaming gear instead of socializing with women Are you saying that men buy household appliances to get women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:57 AM
1

Bumble isn’t about leadership, it’s about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:54 AM
2

So? You can have a smaller pool of encounters generate more infections if people aren’t taking measures against it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:53 AM
2

Why, if the reason people aren’t marrying or having kids isn’t addressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:51 AM
1

Hasn’t happened yet
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:50 AM
2

Diseases spread if not treated or prevented. Neither of which is tied to a certain number of sexual encounters
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:50 AM
0

Of course not. Experimentation is common, as is religiosity and peer pressure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:48 AM
5

More disease doesn’t mean more sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:43 AM
1

The short term hasn’t ended or reverted
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:42 AM
1

Probably less than that saved by producing, shipping and disposing of a robot
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:40 AM
-1

Yes, if you sort by partner gender, you can determine what type of relationship it is People can have relationships outside their preferred gender
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:38 AM
1

The data disagrees
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:36 AM
2

So no then
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:36 AM
6

Sexual orientation doesn’t change who is doing the abusing or what is considered abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:34 AM
2

Abuse doesn’t cease being abuse because of a sexual orientation
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:32 AM
5

No, her whole premise is that the data doesn’t support the claim
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:30 AM
1

That is not what noting that people can have relationships with their non-preferred gender is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:29 AM
4

The data says less
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:26 AM
1

Men don’t control the world, otherwise they would make women do what they want And leadership percentages are changing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:25 AM
1

Complaining is just words
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:17 AM
2

So men never do anything because they like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:16 AM
1

I don’t see any indication of that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:15 AM
1

So what? Nobody cares about that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:12 AM
2

What if you already have pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:10 AM
4

I didn’t say it was correct. And society now is different than it was when arranged marriages were prevalent
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:06 AM
2

So it wouldn’t fix the main reason the marriage and reproductive rates are down?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:02 AM
2

Not being well off, able to afford a home
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:48 AM
3

We can learn new things, no? And there’s choices, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:47 AM
2

So hashtag not all actions. What about bi/gay men ? Asexual men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:46 AM
1

You can get stats on who married by their own choice and who didn’t. And who was punished and who wasn’t If people are interested in collecting them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:01 AM
2

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:58 AM
2

Being cut off from and defamed by your family is a big deal in a poor country with a weak government
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:57 AM
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Of course, but still less by mass and complexity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:56 AM
1

They’re not, otherwise they could make women do what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:54 AM
3

It’s not hard The penalties for not getting an arranged marriage in places like India are quite clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:52 AM
2

Sure, but if that’s all you do, how does that help ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:50 AM
1

Men still want to marry women because they provide sex and service. Men can only offer money, and that’s not enough anymore. Men could offer sex and service, but most don’t care to, because that’s women’s work/beneath them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:39 AM
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I was talking about robots, lol. All machines are toxic to produce, and toxic to dispose of. Electrons are better
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:35 AM
2

How do the actions I listed get you pussy ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:34 AM
2

A dumb, restricted and obedient population will always get curb stomped by a innovative, educated and active one The only reason religious, misogynistic societies like Saudi, Iran and Dubai have any shiny things at all is because of oil And Russia is looking to join them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:31 AM
2

Yes, so how would arranged marriage fix that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:29 AM
4

Young men like fucking around, as half of them confirmed. That’s not new Just let them sow their wild oats, ya prude
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:27 AM
4

Especially in the upper classes, infidelity and prostitution was not taboo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:26 AM
1

Half or more of a career isn’t none at all
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:25 AM
5

All the richest per capita and most equal societies do dating
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:24 AM
1

Really? Actions such as staying in your room all day to play video games, not taking care of your health and eating to excess are meant to get sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:22 AM
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It benefits men in general, because they don’t need to like or care about their property.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:20 AM
5

It’s not arranged marriage that works. It’s lack of choices and freedoms, which is the case in the countries that still have widespread arranged marriages That’s how you get people to do things they don’t want to do, like fuck people they don’t want, and have babies they don’t want
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:17 AM
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No, they don’t have to tell me their views to treat me disrespectfully, unfairly, or as an inferior — I am able to read between the lines And some did anyways. Particularly my family, my classmates, my coworkers, and worst of all, my bosses
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:13 AM
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Thanks for putting this together
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:12 AM
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Yes, and that option exists and isn’t used much. I wonder why? Arranged marriage won’t help the falling birth rate if having and raising children continues to be an unequal and expensive slog
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:08 AM
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Because I do have to live with them. They’re my neighbors, customers, service providers, political representatives, producers, coworkers, bosses, subordinates, family members, etc. And they’re also here, whining
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:07 AM
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I never said it was acceptable or good. But I’m certainly not going to tell men how to take care of their own dicks, as long as it’s legal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:04 AM
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I am not going to blame or criticize my biology, and women are interesting to me If you give none, you’ll get none
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:02 AM
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I know. I am not against them, other than the waste of resources and pollution. I think AI/VR is a better, more responsible solution
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:01 AM
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Of course. Misogyny is logical, if not productive But aside from that, men just aren’t interested in women outside of our bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:02 PM
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Of course we have common interests — as long as they’re men’s. The people who make content know: you can get women to buy/see male content, but you can’t get men to buy/see female content, unless it’s sexualized to the point that it turns women off. That’s why JK Rowling had to pretend she was a man and make her character a male to have mass appeal. Male content is universal, female content is niche and gendered, or sexualized
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:00 PM
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If arranged marriages were that great, we wouldn’t have stopped doing them And you’re still free to have them, so I don’t see what the problem is
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:27 PM
10

That used to be the law. Do you think people stopped cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:26 PM
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Box office receipts and other indicators of time and money spent are quite clear
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:24 PM
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And why do you put up with that? For our bodies, not us
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:23 PM
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Edited
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:22 PM
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You like our bodies, sure. We don’t consider that “us”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:21 PM
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If men liked women, they wouldn’t complain about being their friends, having to censor themselves around women, and would actually be interested in women’s interests and content.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:23 PM
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That’s true if they’re dating/not dumping these men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:22 PM
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It’s not just us not doing what they want. They don’t like our interests, thoughts, traits, consideration and ways of interacting. They have to not be crude, rude, sexist, bigoted, insensitive, etc, around us, and find the things we like boring and uninteresting. That’s why women will watch male centered movies, watch male sports, listen to male musicians and read books by/about men, but men will not do the same for women produced content
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:32 PM
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I’ve never seen you say that you dislike women. But plenty of men do, and say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:29 PM
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Women Because we’re not complaining about male accountability Meanwhile, men deny their own involvement in their issues, particularly with regard to their thirst “Women have so many options! They think they’re better than they are!” Well, uh, exactly who is making them think they are better and have options? Elephants?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:24 PM
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Because they don’t like us, especially our autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:07 PM
6

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:06 PM
1

On the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:33 PM
1

Of course, but most people do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:33 PM
1

Doesn’t have anything to do with praise
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:32 PM
1

Not to me, to them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:53 PM
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Because generalizations are not individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:52 PM
2

Women do it because it works, sorry to inform you No demand, no supply
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:51 PM
1

Everyone likes praise, especially if they believe it’s true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:35 PM
1

It does to people who have feelings and care about people other than themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:34 PM
1

Uh huh, that’s why you’re here, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:33 PM
1

Yes Doing hobbies together involves very little And yet people still don’t wanna Doesn’t sound like such people actually like their partner
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:23 PM
6

The work is never done because men like you exist
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:13 PM
1

My thought is that, similar to the veil, women suffer because men can’t control themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:10 PM
1

Abusers are successful with women who accept their behavior out of desperation, trauma, familiarity or ego/investment They also don’t display abusive behavior in public, obviously If you are actually interested in the truth, you could peruse the abuse/dv subs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:07 PM
1

Nope, because we don’t have to
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:03 PM
3

I assure you that women do not want polygamy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:02 PM
3

That requires effort with no guarantees Unacceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:02 PM
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Women only have options because men voluntarily give them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:00 PM
1

We can see how men behave. It ain’t difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:18 PM
1

No, I’m pretty sure men prefer sex with women, given the choice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:15 PM
1

It’s a sticker, so none
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:10 PM
1

Emotionally they would
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:10 PM
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That’s a good point. Since men don’t actually seem to like women, there’d be more voluntary segregation and less socializing But the rest is really speculative. We don’t know how much sex motivates other things like morals, ethics, values
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:08 PM
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Of course it is — from the bottoms point of view
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:11 PM
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Actions are actions I didn’t say they were equal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:10 PM
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It’s not. It’s the whole point of words and language
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:46 PM
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It takes two to tango
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:44 PM
-2

Options don’t have to be easy Technically, we should all only have one anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:43 PM
1

Humans defined social, and humans fit the definition
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:42 PM
9

See: lesbians
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:40 PM
1

I’m afraid the definition of social isn’t changing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:38 PM
1

It’s not It’s quite common
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:32 PM
1

I’m afraid that humanity has defined itself as a social animal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:28 PM
1

Still involves interacting, which is social
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:13 PM
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Yes, that is social behavior, not solitary behavior. And why humans live in societies, not alone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:58 PM
1

Of course not, plenty of men let their partners do most or all of the housework, and are shitty/naggy/selfish in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:56 PM
1

Bangmaid is a valid description of a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:18 PM
2

Not relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:17 PM
2

That’s not emotional vulnerability
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:10 PM
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I love how thoughtful, careful and nuanced men become when put on the spot. They sound like women I should ask more questions here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:09 PM
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No worse than the ones we get given
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:07 PM
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Of course you’re not going to give an answer, just a monologue
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:07 PM
1

Very relevant. We use the term bangmaid because we don’t like it and will break up over it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:06 PM
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Men who treat women like bangmaids often get dumped or divorced. Not enough, but it happens
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:01 PM
1

Oh, I dumped nice supportive guys who didn’t do much supporting. Gave them lots of chances, which I will no longer do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:58 PM
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Totally relevant to divorces, dating and breakups
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:57 PM
4

That’s fair, and yet many men do choose the woman. Probably because most men don’t like fucking trees
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:54 PM
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And then they get mad when women refuse to answer the same question
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:52 PM
1

Men will no longer have to initiate when they don’t want sex more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:50 PM
1

I’ve met very few men who were willing and able to be supportive and competent partners, period. I’m not at all surprised that more and more women are choosing to go without
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:46 PM
1

So? That is progress from zero, and we’re more than halfway to 50. It doesn’t have to be 50 or over, but the possibility is there
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:31 PM
1

Nope. These are working men who treat us like bangmaids, until we divorce them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:29 PM
1

Everything is not staying the same. Women’s participation has been changing for a hundred years, which is why men are butthurt about it. There’s no reason to think it will stop after a century
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:28 PM
1

We don’t want submissive, scared and lazy, which is what men are now. We want caring and supportive, which men currently aren’t in large numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:20 PM
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We’re not paying for sperm We’re paying you to go away after We have it easier because men make it so, no other reason. Men could end female privilege any time they wanted to, but they won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:17 PM
1

Men aren’t good at being supportive and nurturing. When then become so, we’ll marry them more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:12 PM
1

Men don’t lead in all areas, lol. And so what? As long as we can do what we want, we’re fine
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:11 PM
2

Yet again, men are sane when asked directly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:18 PM
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Because they chose the partner, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:16 PM
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Sure they are That’s why we live socially, not solitarily
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:15 PM
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Of course they do, because every knows So much so that men have to lie extensively to get out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:15 PM
1

If sperm and sex were that valuable, women would be paying men And we don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:13 PM
1

We don’t need equal leadership, we need equal opportunities. And we have that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:12 PM
1

They do, that’s why their numbers are increasing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:11 PM
1

Yes, and children used to die at all ages from accidents
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:11 PM
1

We don’t need to, and there’s no evidence that it will change. Society is more efficient this way, so it will be hard to change it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:03 AM
1

Not if women can decline and men can adapt
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:01 AM
1

Nah, it’s because men make bad housewives
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:49 AM
1

If men don’t wanna, we can’t make em Hence, divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:37 AM
1

A majority doesn’t mean universal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:37 AM
1

It was an either/or question
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:37 AM
1

The recent data does not agree
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:34 AM
1

Lots of men want to lead but provide no compensation or benefit for it. Thus, we decline
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:33 AM
1

Fame is not about resources but social hierarchy and attention
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:30 AM
2

Of course. Because it’s all about sex, and also control — for men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:26 AM
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Companionship, money/breadwinning, social status and secondary parenting are still valuable And “not hot”/“acceptable” doesn’t equal “sexually repulsive”. Just ask men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:22 AM
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They’re young and actually have muscle tone And fame is about possession and attention, no matter how fleeting, not cocks and orgasms
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:18 AM
1

The steady increase indicates otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:15 AM
5

Again, are they lusting after his lack of muscle tone, or his yacht and investment portfolio?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:14 AM
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Yes, and women are doing most of it — so they aren’t cheating while married
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:13 AM
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Again, that is not a debate
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:11 AM
1

I am glad that he’s not going to
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:11 AM
0

And why is that? Is Chad’s sperm better, or are his face and body better than Billy Beta’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:09 AM
5

So? An old rich dude is a high status man, and no one wants his 80 year old wang, just his piles of cash
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:09 AM
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Plenty of people have unmutually enjoyable sex Usually women Because manchildren aren’t arousing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:07 AM
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Of course not, because marriage involves men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:06 AM
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They don’t want to fuck his piles of cash
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:13 AM
1

Of course But kids don’t understand the importance of rumpy pumpy; they just see humans who care for them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:11 AM
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We’re not men, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:11 AM
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It’s not sexual attraction, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:58 AM
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Letting your partner do all the work is not caring Wanting them to have sex on your terms is not caring
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:55 AM
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That’s a good story. Who knows how relevant it is All I know is the reasons women give for not leaving a shitty man
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:54 AM
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Why don’t women give men privileges then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:51 AM
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