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Yes, the internet gives activists a stronger voice and a wider outreach. This extends to extremists as well. But, any major religion is anti-woman, and for thousands of years nobody thought that was an issue. Many still don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:18 AM
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That is one way of putting it. Another way would be they are fighting back against systems and cultures that have historically relegated women to be second class citizens, expected to be subservient to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:13 AM
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Your post has been removed for being a rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:10 AM
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I don’t think it’s so sudden. You’re just starting to be more aware of it. There’s been a sort of gender Cold War going on since before women got the vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:46 PM
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And in junior high I thought all I needed to do to become pretty and popular was to replace my nerd glasses with contact lenses. 8th grade was certainly a disappointment - and a learning experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:46 PM
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One might suggest you sought attention by posting this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:44 PM
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And I was deceived into believing there are squirrels living at the bottom of the ocean!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:44 PM
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I usually don’t like the “pumpkin spice” trendiness but pumpkin spice cinnamon rolls sound amazing. Do you use a cream cheese frosting or drizzle? I think it sounds like it would pair well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:44 AM
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Thank you! I’ve missed this place, honestly. It’s one of the few subs that feels like a real community, at least one that I would want to spend, oh, hours a day with while working from home (ahem).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:42 AM
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I didn’t actually want to know, you realize. I just wanted to grouse about using condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:26 AM
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I know, I feel bad about missing so much around here but we lost our director and our office manager (we work from home so they should change this name) over the summer, plus 2 other staff, and I was the next senior staff person left. So basically I had to impersonate those 2 roles plus do my actual job while also recruiting and hiring my future supervisors. Not to mention the usual life and family business - aging parents, husband, kid, etc. We finally have a director and it looks like we are c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:18 AM
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Sure, and others of us are allergic to latex as well. Sure, you can buy polyurethane condoms instead, but they are less effective and also more likely to break. Well, nobody ever said life is risk free.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:08 AM
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Women on Reddit don’t even always agree with each other in lockstep, why would you think we would be representative of women as a whole? We aren’t even representative of each other in all cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:42 AM
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Yes. My extended family is its own peculiar brand of Irish Catholic family values and staunch liberalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:36 AM
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Different from whom? My 30 year old cousin is also a feminist with 4 kids - twins that came prematurely and were inadvertently born at home, and 2 singletons, normal births, no problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:33 AM
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For most of human history women died almost routinely from childbirth so at least medical technology has gotten better - till Republicans find ways to legislate those advances away, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:30 AM
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My mom actually had 3 but one passed at birth. He was a boy. Placenta previa. The same thing happened with my birth but they managed to keep me alive. My sister is 2 years younger and her birth had no such issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:22 AM
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How have you been?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:17 AM
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But you did say they “don’t want kids”, not “are putting off having kids.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:16 AM
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My mother and her 3 sisters are all feminists. My mom and her middle sister had 2 kids a piece, eldest had 3 and youngest has 4. I just have the one kid, but not for lack of trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:15 AM
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Ooh, fun! I’ve always wanted to go to Salem MA.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:12 AM
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If you really, really don’t want kids, which is how I phrased it, why would you want to reverse it? Edit: I had an IUD for 7 years. I loved it. No periods, no fuss, no muss. Until the little sucker got loose and meandered up into my uterus and had to be removed in a horribly painful procedure that made me pass out, piss myself, and throw up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:07 AM
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❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:47 AM
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And there are a dozen or more methods of preventing babies besides condoms. Half the fun of an LTR is not having to use condoms anymore. If you are having casual sex, sure, condoms make sense. In a marriage, I’d rather go bareback and use something longer lasting like an IUD or an implant. And if you really, really never want kids, there are tubal ligations and vasectomies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:42 AM
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What even is the point of getting married if you still have to use condoms every time?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:27 AM
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Carving a pumpkin, buying candy “for trick-or-treaters” and then eating it myself because we never get any trick-or-treaters in our gated building, mortifying my dog by dressing him up and walking him around the neighborhood checking out all the decorations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:24 AM
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Hello, my darlings! How are things with the purple folk? Getting ready for Halloween? Started your Christmas shopping yet? Picked out your turkey for Thanksgiving? Anything exciting happening around these parts?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:22 AM
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Nobody has ever argued that looks don’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:13 AM
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Actors sometimes receive death threats and often attract stalkers. A few have been killed by their stalkers. I would not be so quick to dismiss the danger in their shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:47 PM
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Not bullshit. The same thing happened with the kid who played Joffrey on Game of Thrones. Rabid fans will rabid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:41 PM
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Usually the inverse tropes are the hot but dumb wife or the plain and angry shrew wife, not the inconsiderate jerk wife. Maybe you should write a screenplay and invent a new sub-genre.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:40 PM
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90% of the time I don't find them particularly attractive. And even on the rare occasion I do find them attractive, they are strictly off limits. Even if they happen to break up, I would be inclined to steer clear of my friends' exes, since I like my friends and would like to keep them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:26 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:39 PM
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Children are killed by their own fathers in slightly greater numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:39 PM
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I would and I am with a partner that makes less money than me. I would not intentionally get into a relationship with someone who is unemployed unless he has some other means of supporting himself other than expecting me to do it. That said, at times over the last 10 years he has been on disability or unemployment. I took on the bulk of our expenses during those times because that is what you do for each other in a marriage. If he just didn’t want to work though, it would be over.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:41 AM
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I’d love to make us both 20 years younger but otherwise no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:52 AM
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Adjusted for age, I would say yes. Probably one of the people I have had sex with that I would say is out of my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:17 AM
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I feel like that about pizza. I used to love it. When I had children in my house all the time we had pizza probably once a week. After I became an empty nester pizza kind of dropped off my radar - I think I was finally sick of pizza. Yesterday I had it for the first time in probably a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:43 PM
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I don't know if I would say "not loving you enough". Your parents can love you wholeheartedly but just not have the means to give you college and a down payment. I think it's more the guidance, care, and emotional support you received from them than the financial backing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:40 PM
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How is that relevant? Yeah, if someone was an asshole to another person I would probably tell them not to be one. And I would console the recipient of the insult with pretty much what I said, perhaps a little softer in person than on an anonymous forum but the basic message. Don’t let the shitty remarks made by an asshole make you feel bad about yourself. I get insulted on PPD all the time. And you people can’t even see me, but I’m apparently a Karen, a land whale, old and out of touch, a blue h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:48 PM
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Toys are great for that. And these days you don’t need to walk into, or be seen walking into a seedy sex shop to buy them like you did when I was in my 20s. You can just order them online. If you have Amazon Prime they will arrive the next day in discreet packaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:46 AM
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No they don’t. They signify pessimism and often, a lack of interest in self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:53 PM
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They are all too young for me, but #3 is probably closest my age so probably that one if I had to pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:49 PM
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Not so much lie, but there are things I have not mentioned that are objectively true but it would serve no purpose to tell him except to hurt him or antagonize him. So I don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:31 PM
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Insults are never polite. They are meant to hurt you, not to validate you. You cam shrug them off, laugh at them because they inaccurate, or fully embrace them and agree (which is what I do when someone calls me a bitch). But you should not let them feed your insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:41 PM
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Hopefully that is all it was. I would hate to never be able to go to that liquor store again because I creeped him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:56 PM
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I thought I was being selective. He was not someone I would realistically hit on, he is younger than my kid. But then I started thinking that maybe he does not know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:53 PM
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I'm trying to be better at it. As much as I can't shut up on PPD, I'm pretty quiet in person. I'm often busy listening to my internal monologue and am oblivious to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:56 PM
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He knows me, kinda. Not by name or anything but he works at the liquor store where my husband buys his cigarettes. His dad owns the store, and the owner and my husband are friends, of a sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:42 PM
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Just wondering about it. He seemed caught off guard but said thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:39 PM
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My job is work from home, not work from fishing boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:02 PM
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Me. I’ve been busy and not on the sub much this weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:00 PM
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Men complain on here that women never compliment men so yesterday I complimented a guy on his long curly hair. It really was great hair. But afterwards I had to wonder if this 22-25 year old was appreciative of being complimented or if he was creeped out that some middle aged lady was hitting on him. I wasn’t, mind you. But a lot of men do think a woman complimenting him is hitting on them. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:59 PM
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Yes. Sometimes I will read him headlines or excerpts. He calls it “the place AstronautLoveShack goes to argue with people.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:55 PM
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I used to when I was single. I had a dog so I wasn’t too worried about being bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:20 AM
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I sort by new on PPD and I sort by rising on the main Reddit page.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 06:40 PM
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Military and police are on my list too. And bartenders. A lot of them are raging alcoholics, they are surrounded by drunk members of the opposite sex, and they often get tipped in drugs. Despite all this I did marry a bartender, but only after he could no longer drink due to illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 06:14 PM
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Unpossible. I am a figment of your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 04:38 PM
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They know who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 04:06 PM
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Perhaps your lack of interest in her orgasm and desire for sex to be done in 5 minutes is a contributing factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:57 PM
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Haven't lost interest in mine, but he cares if I get off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:37 PM
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So you don’t enjoy having sex and want it done as quickly as possible? As a woman who enjoys sex and has no issues with orgasming, that sounds boring. And disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:39 PM
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Not fashion trends, but they would know what is appropriate for certain occasions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:04 PM
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It's their job to teach you proper hygiene, proper etiquette, how to dress and style yourself presentably. Those things may not technically how to attract a partner, but they are components of attracting a partner nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:56 PM
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I would not be with a man who abandoned his own children. A stepfather, or an adoptive or foster father (assuming the foster father is in it because he cares and not for the money which some people really do), is generally someone who cares about children, or at least the children under his care. How could you not prefer that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:37 PM
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A lot of manchildren also believed they needed a PS5. I don’t care, it’s their money, but it was eye roll inducing when many of them bitched online about how hard it was to get one and how the PS5 should be reserved for “serious” players only (which apparently excludes female gamers).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:58 AM
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I think she’s just so pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:54 AM
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Is he sitting in an old gum tree?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:54 AM
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Most of my male friends are average men and all of them are married or in serious relationships. There are 3 men in my unit at work - one is married and the other 2 have girlfriends. The ones that I know that are single are mostly single by design, and the ones that aren’t are mostly over 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:41 PM
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No but you should have seen the amazing rat’s nest on my head that I woke up to yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:50 PM
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I haven't the foggiest idea. I conceived the usual way. Other than the cost of the alcohol that night, it was free.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:32 PM
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You actually can have kids at 40. You can conceive naturally, or do IVF, or freeze your eggs to use later. I know a lot of women who conceived 40-47 years of age. I personally would not want to have babies that late, but I had mine at 22 and was done with childrearing by 40ish. It was nice to finally relax and also to still have the energy to go out and have fun, which I may not have had if I became an empty nester at 60+.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:28 PM
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People are having children later in general. And in this current economy I absolutely do not blame them. In 1992 I rented a 2-story duplex for $600. Studios where I live are now between 1200-1500.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:31 PM
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Knowing what a clitoris is and how it works will put you worlds above a hefty percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:40 PM
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Most women want love and children. It's more difficult and more expensive to be a single mom than a partnered one. Since the window of fertility is shorter for women, they want the commitment (symbolic of the love) so they can get to the children part.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:32 PM
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It is in fact harder to get a woman off than a man, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:29 PM
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To be good in bed, but you still need to know how to kiss. The kissing is what she will need to get turned on enough to want you anywhere near her clitoris.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:04 PM
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Serviceable is not the same as great. But kissing is a very important part of being physically intimate with your partner so yeah, that helps a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:55 PM
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All that is required for a man to be good in bed is knowing where the clitoris is, and not being afraid to touch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:30 PM
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My standards for looks were never that high to begin with, because I am able to differentiate between movie stars, fictional characters, and regular people. Also, while I've been told I'm cute or pretty, realistically I was never going to be Homecoming Queen or Miss America, and I'm all too aware of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:04 PM
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I’m sexually liberated enough. I’ve had a pretty great sex life overall. I tend to be nonjudgmental about kinks and such, even if they aren’t kinks I share or understand. However, some things are just impossible not to judge. Pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia all deserve to be judged. The scat fetishes I judge. Extreme sadomasochism with permanent scarring. Stuff like that I will judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:56 PM
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Hitting on women is not creepy in and of itself. Black pill will say that women only call unattractive men creepy but this is definitely not the case. Look at Armie Hammer. Dude is creepy. It’s how you hit on them that can be creepy - maybe you make overly sexual remarks, maybe you invade her personal space, maybe when talking to her you gaze at her breasts instead of looking at her face, maybe you touch her inappropriately. Or send her cannibalistic messages like our good friend Armie.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:52 PM
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I think it is a combination. Men can cum pretty easily comparatively speaking from PIV or BJs whereas women are more likely to cum from clitoral stimulation. So part physiological. Many woman also have to be in the right headspace for sex, so that part is psychological. All that said, men are often inclined to skip foreplay and get right to the sexxing. Doing so ignores the physiological and psychological needs of women. As we have already discussed, many women don’t cum from PIV the way most me…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:43 PM
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Sure, anybody can claim to be anything they want on Reddit. Wish I’d thought of it before admitting to being me. I could have told people I was a wealthy 20 year old Stacy or something instead of copping to being a 50 year old middle class dweeb.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:13 PM
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We have a chaise lounge kind of thing in the bedroom that I sit on for those purposes. It puts me right at the right level, and doesn’t hurt my knees as much as kneeling on a hardwood floor would.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:59 AM
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Our proposal took place at a sushi restaurant at lunch time. And then I had to do back to work. He had paid off the ring on layaway that morning and didn’t want to wait. There was no kneeling. But we got free celebratory cocktails from the staff.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:53 AM
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Some of these dudes think having to leave their house is dancing like a monkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:25 AM
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I think a year counts as long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:22 AM
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I went in 1998. I was disinclined to return.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:22 AM
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If you do get more copies, you can always set them aside and regift them at someone else’s baby shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:02 AM
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Have you read What to Expect When You’re Expecting? At least 3 people will gift your copies of it in the next 9 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:50 PM
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Mine’s avoidant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:15 PM
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So did I.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:15 PM
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Right? My girl child had License to Ill and Hello Nasty when she was 4 or 5. I don’t know what was up with that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:08 PM
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A bigger bathroom, bigger kitchen, and a dishwasher.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:42 AM
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The most important meal of the week!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:55 AM
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Thank you! And you as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:39 AM
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Ooookay, Creepy McCreeperson.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:23 AM
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My mom would buy me wine coolers to drink during Miami Vice in high school and she bought me a bottle of champagne for my 16th birthday. I had to share my champagne with the rest of the family though. She didn't care if we drank as long as we weren't stupid about it and as long as we didn't lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:11 AM
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I would rather go out for brunch than dinner any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:00 AM
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Frownie face. We just went to a nice restaurant, had brunch and got a little fucked up, then went to my dad's to drop him off and get a little more fucked up. Nothing creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:59 AM
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What do you drink with your mama?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:54 AM
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Kids are great! I'm biased toward oldest kids too, having been one... your kids sounds awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:54 AM
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Runner's high is the best. I can't run these days. I hope a horror movie villain never chases me, I'd be dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:46 AM
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Aw, thanks! I wish I could have done better by her, but she is a stellar adult and I would be proud and honored to know her, even if she were not my kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:44 AM
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Yes. Instead of wishing I had other children, I like to think I got it right the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:35 AM
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It was! Mimosas with my only child are never a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:34 AM
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I assume #1, but often there are nonverbal clues that a man is looking for more than just an innocent conversation. In those cases it depends on (a) if I am in a relationship or single, and (b) assuming I'm single, it will depend if I am attracted to him. If I am not interested, I pretend he wants an innocent conversation even if I am picking up signs that he wants more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:32 AM
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I feel like I did do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:17 AM
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People all downvoting my motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:16 AM
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Just got home from brunch and an epic "after party" with my dad and daughter. I'm a little drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:15 AM
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Sexually, Pros: youngish and very little refractory period. Cons: Wanted to try all the stuff in porn and thought women could squirt on demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 11:51 PM
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My husband and I both sleep with our dog. He’s only 10 lbs though so no need for any creepy bestiality thoughts thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 11:46 PM
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Yes. I was 22. She is 29 now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 11:45 PM
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I was single and had been celibate 4 years. One day around 40, a 30-year old asked me out. I wasn’t that attracted but it was flattering to my middle aged ego and it had been so long since I went on dates, let alone had sex. So I gave it a whirl. Didn’t work out. I felt more like his mother than his girlfriend. I had a career and a nearly adult child; he was still in college and lived with his mother. He didn’t get my culture references. He did not appreciate my music. He had never heard of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 11:41 PM
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I remember when the Stacy’s Mom video came out and my own dad saying repeatedly, “what’s wrong with that kid? Stacy’s a knockout!” and I’ve looked at him side eyed ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:59 PM
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The attraction doesn’t crash and burn. The relationship does. If the relationship crashes and burns, I’m not interested in another at this point in my life so bring on the boxed wine and cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:19 PM
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Wat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:01 AM
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Working out great for me. And most of my girl friends too!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:48 AM
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🤷‍♀️ You call it a temper tantrum, I call it standing firm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:33 AM
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Have half of it boxed when you order. Take it home and eat it for lunch the next day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:03 AM
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I hate hubby. It doesn’t even make sense. Husby would make more sense, but it is stupid too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:02 AM
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I would explain that I turned him down for saying “sweet candy cavern.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:29 AM
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Imprinting on a newborn that isn’t your own is kind of creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:27 AM
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No, I just sing along to music fitting my mood at the top of my lungs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:23 PM
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Not a lot of money in it either, if you are a farm worker and not the owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:18 PM
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Does she want to go live in a trailer and be a farmer? We can set them up. I should add that the trailer does not have running water or electricity but there is a shower in the barn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:27 PM
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I think you were married to my first husband’s female alter ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:25 PM
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Makes sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:12 PM
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Resentment, frustration, constant fighting. The usual suspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:14 PM
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I probably would, yeah. I still find men who look like my first husband to be attractive as well, but H1 and H2 look completely different. H2 is objectively hotter though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:06 PM
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I’m 52 and I have no recollection of that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:52 PM
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I can’t speak for other women but I was sexually attracted to my partners, up until the relationship started to crash and burn and I no longer wanted them to touch me. And I am definitely sexually attracted to my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:48 PM
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Parties, gatherings, bars, and the like. But I’ve also met men at school, at work (not the band), a Mexican restaurant, the dog park. Or you can just do online dating if all that sounds like too much work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:26 PM
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I'm going to guess liberal man and conservative woman. It worked out for James Carville and Mary Matalin after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:54 PM
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I'ma upvote you but I disagree with you on the khakis.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:07 PM
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Yes, or at least to me it does. There is a place for basketball shorts and a graphic tee in a man's wardrobe, of course. But a man who is a snappy dresser is one that will catch my eye. Even a man who is not conventionally attractive will elevate his status in a well tailored suit, or a sharp looking button down shirt, well fitting pants or jeans, and don't forget great shoes!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:57 PM
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Nobody says that and marriage adds protections for the husband too. My husband for example benefits from being on my health, dental and vision plan at work, he is entitled to my life insurance, and if I die before he does he will get my retirement. If he had not married me all that money would go to my daughter instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:32 PM
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Stop telling me what I can and can't put in my own comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:30 PM
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Like any 19 year old wants to fuck a 50 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:10 PM
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Yes, as a matter of fact. Every man I dated between 1989 to 2013 was within a year of my own age. My husband is 7 years older, but I was 42 by then and nobody cares what 42 year olds do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:59 PM
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It's not my problem, per se, but I have empathy and a daughter of my own, so I can't help feeling some kind of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:52 PM
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Legally, yes, they are adults. If you have ever actually lived with a 19-year old as a 40 year old (which I have), it's clear that they still have some growing up to do. Are those 18-21 year olds doing it of their own free will, or were they encouraged by much older boyfriends? Let's take the example of 17 year old Dorothy Stratten, who was wooed by 26 year old Paul Snider. He hired a photographer to take nudes of her, which he sent off to Playboy. At 18 years of age she became Playmate of the y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:44 PM
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I find it an issue because I've seen girls being fucked over by much older men, and I've been made uncomfortable by much older men who think they were entitled to my company. A 19 year old is barely an adult. Probably living with her parents or in a college dorm. She does not have the experience romantically or life-wise of a 40 year old and many of those 40 year olds admit that her lack of maturity is the draw. Having been the mother of a 19-year old, this makes me concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:15 PM
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There is no contradiction. I don't care if men don't want to date me, for my age or for any other reason. Probably the majority of men wouldn't, and that's valid. A select few have been interested and that has been more than enough for me. I do care if a 40 year old takes advantage of a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:05 PM
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That's a lot of words to say "I'm afraid of being divorce raped and I don't love my partner enough to marry her and make sure she has protections in the event of my death."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:58 PM
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Because men don't read romance novels, so what would be the point of writing one? But you do watch porn, and there are plenty of examples of a power dynamic relationship between a submissive man and a dominant woman who is a teacher, or his boss, or whatever. So don't act like it doesn't happen, because it absolutely does - in a different medium.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:40 PM
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Yes. Absolutely. Women find attractive men attractive. How naive would you have to be to assume otherwise? But again, we don’t actually expect to marry a billionaire. Most of us do not know any billionaires. And we certainly don’t know any vampires or werewolves. There is also the fantasy of having this rich, powerful, dangerous (insert your adjective of choice) man falling madly in love with you because you are just that sexy/desirable/lovable. Like men, women also want validation via our roman…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:53 PM
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Yes. Absolutely. Women find attractive men attractive. How naive would you have to be to assume otherwise? But again, we don’t actually expect to marry a billionaire. Most of us do not know any billionaires. And we certainly don’t know any vampires or werewolves. There is also the fantasy is having this rich, powerful, dangerous (insert your adjective of choice) man falling madly in love with you because you are just that sexy/desirable/lovable. Like men, women also want validation via our roman…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:52 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:46 PM
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When you watch porn is it fat 55 year old women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:45 PM
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No they don’t. I’ve read Gone with the Wind about 50 times but it didn’t make me want to move to Georgia, own slaves, or moon over a married man while married to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:40 PM
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I mean, people read romantic literature to fantasize. They aren’t self help books or tech manuals. So why would you not optimize the fantasy and imagine being prettier, or more desirable, or pursued by a billionaire? Or a vampire or werewolf for that matter? Women in general understand that is highly unlikely that they will ever catch the fancy of a billionaire, let alone a vampire or werewolf. When you watch porn do you decide to take a job as a pizza delivery boy in hopes of having women open …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:37 PM
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I’m 52. Women raise their standards because as you mature you get a better sense of self, you are more aware of what you want, and you are more aware of what red flags are out there. I never shamed any man for not wanting to date me in particular, for my age or any other reason. I want someone who is attracted to me and wants to be with me of their own free will, after all. I do think dating much younger women as a much older man can be detrimental to those women, so that is when I might shame t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:26 PM
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Yeah. Dating is inherently unfair. Life is inherently unfair. You aren’t going to get a participation trophy for existing. You’ll have to make something of yourself and other people will have that same stuff come easier to them because of better genes or more money or whatever. You can accept that, do the best with what you have, and work hard to improve your circumstances. Or you can whine like a 6 year old who has been told he can’t have candy before dinner. Your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:56 AM
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I would not. I prefer to meet people in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:15 AM
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Ask the men who shame women for having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:40 AM
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I met him in 2013 not 1983 when I would have been 12. We married in 2020.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:23 AM
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Isn’t it obvious? Nuns don’t have sex, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:11 AM
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I never really dated any fuckbois. I have self respect. My relationships tend to be long lasting and even my casual sex has been with guys I trusted who I already knew. Posted too soon. My husband would probably have been considered a fuckboi in his younger days. By the time I met him he was past all that. But he also was only meant to be casual so that is why I gave him a whirl. As it turns out husband and I are both sexual freaks with some shared kinks. We’re over 50, 10 years in and still can…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:54 AM
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Not really. First off, very few women sleep with 100 guys, and would you consider dating her long term if she did? The average is 5-7. Maybe one of those guys will be memorable. It’s not difficult to make that memorable guy, you. Just make her pleasure as important as your own and that small step will make you better than most. As far as the emotional connection it is definitely deepened by great sex. My husband is a good lover and a good partner but like most couples we occasionally fall into a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:11 AM
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I was trying to point out that Chad or an alpha is not the dude she can’t forget. It’s the guy who gives her the best sex of her life, be that Chad, Brad, or Poindexter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:17 AM
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That is the best position for me. It hits all the right spots.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:43 PM
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Foreplay is vitally important to me. Otherwise, how am I supposed to get turned on? Oral is honestly not that important to me, because it often makes me feel exposed and self-conscious if all the focus is on me. But I do enjoy it and if I had a partner who wanted blow jobs but was not interested in returning the favor, I would be resentful. Yes, good sex absolutely makes me more attracted to a man. More than that, it makes me more attached to him. PPD men think that women get alpha widowed by Ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:42 PM
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By talking to him. If the conversation is deeper than just small talk and chit chat, and I feel safe being myself around him and I feel like he "gets" me, I am probably on the way to becoming emotionally attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:49 PM
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"I'm married." Pre-marriage, if I knew him I would pretend I didn't notice he was interested unless he was direct. Most men are not direct, so playing dumb will work for a while. If the conversation becomes inevitable, I would gently but firmly tell him that while I think he's a great guy and all, I can't go out with him. Having a daughter was convenient for this because I could say she was my priority and I wasn't able to date at this time. It wasn't entirely a lie, either - at various points i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:35 PM
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I choose the one that I feel more emotionally attached to, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:28 PM
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Of course! I know a lot of such folks. They seem to have fun with it and the couples are for the most part intact, but occasionally drama arises among the friends group. I mostly hear about it secondhand though, so it doesn't impact me much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:25 PM
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Touche.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:24 PM
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I'm 52 and mine are still like clockwork. I may or may not resent this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:23 PM
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There's a 60% chance that they are still together. Not 100% of first time married couples stay together, but a majority do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:22 PM
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Exactly. It isn't. But they still fume about her a decade later.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:20 PM
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Could be!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:19 PM
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If they are very young or if they are very immature, they may be experimenting. Testing their "womanly wiles" so to speak. Oh, this guy is paying attention to me, I'll flirt with him. Oh wait, he actually likes me? Better put the breaks on before something happens I'm not ready for! Oh wait, he stopped paying attention to me, what happens if I start flirting again?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:17 PM
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Depends on where you live in this wide world!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:07 PM
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But I like wine and cats. I'm married and I still have wine and cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:07 PM
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If it sounds very alien, it is because most PPD men insist it's only our youth and beauty they value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:06 PM
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My 2 longest relationships started at 29 (9 years) and 42 (10 and counting), respectively. Sure, maybe they settled for a post wall hag when they really wanted a hot bodied 20 year old, but I must not have been looking like Aughra in the Dark Crystal if my husband actually wanted to marry me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:05 PM
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Superficial hot Stacy graduated high school, joined a sorority, and married a frat boy and has 2 kids with him by 30. She is oblivious to those guys, as she should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:00 PM
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I've had some of these guys tell me that I'm going to leave my husband for Chad or divorce rape him (despite making more money), so they don't only make statements about single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:58 PM
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The hottest cheerleader in high school who they never had the courage to ask out and then have spent the rest of their lives fuming that she dated the high school quarterback, instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:57 PM
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Your mom. /sorry, couldn't resist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:56 PM
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They don't care, it's a revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:55 PM
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"Society will collapse if I don't get my dick wet on demand!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:55 PM
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Do you want mine? I have no further use for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:54 PM
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That first sentence is quite the visual.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:54 PM
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To hear them tell it, a lot of them are indeed unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:53 PM
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Don't forget the boxed wine!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:53 PM
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Except their predictions are generally wrong. But since that is also the case with regular fortunate tellers, nobody would be able to tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:53 PM
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My mother is 74 and retired but she still goes into the office every day (she owns the business), and she has a ton of side projects such as acting in local theatre and local commercials. She's like a shark, if she stops moving she'll die. Anyway, those are the standards I have to live up to, aside from just not wanting to be poor, so I do expect to work until retirement age or until I die, whichever comes first.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:51 PM
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That aren't that high. Or at least mine aren't. I haven't had a ton of casual sex but when I have, it has been with long time male friends that weren't necessarily lookers but I felt safe and affectionate with them, and they happened to be there at the end of the night.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:47 PM
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I am often jealous of my girl friends' fancy and multiple tattoos. I have 4 smallish ones, but when I have the money I usually have other things to spend it on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:45 PM
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Yay, for once in my life I'm the coolest!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:43 PM
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Locking down the right woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:39 PM
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Congrats! Of course it doesn't matter if it's a boy or a girl, as long as your lil family are all healthy and happy. I always thought I wanted a son until I got pregnant. Knew it was going to be a girl almost as soon as I found out (not literally, but intuitively). I'm sure a boy would have been lovely too, but since I ended up raising her alone it's probably for the best she was a girl. I would not have known what to do with a boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:39 PM
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Happy Friday, all! https://youtu.be/kfVsfOSbJY0?si=CfzW-BMlVFWxHqgt
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:35 PM
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It was probably indicative of me being a huge dweeb, but I always loved the first day of school. New backpack, new school supplies, my mom would buy us new fall clothes, seeing all my friends again - it was almost like September Christmas.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:31 PM
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Consider that a feature, not a bug. If you lock down the woman of your dreams, do you want her to be attracted to a wide range of men, leer at them in public, DM them in private, and cheat on you on every opportunity? That is what women face thanks to men's wider range of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:26 PM
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If she is settling or gold digging, it's by definition not a happy marriage, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:23 PM
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I've never seen you so I can't judge your appearance, but for what it is worth from an old married lady, I do appreciate your intellect and accomplishments as expressed on PPD, as well as your pride in your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:22 PM
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How is back to school going for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:59 PM
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I hyphenated with my first husband, dropped his name after the divorce, and kept my name with my 2nd husband. Women don’t take their husband’s names in his home country so it was not a big deal. Also I was 49 when I got remarried and we aren’t having children obviously, so what would be the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:48 PM
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I adore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:43 PM
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Electric.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:43 PM
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TIL I am an artificial woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:42 PM
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That’s too much sanity for this sub. Anyway the subtext of those statements is often just “why isn’t my preferred gender attracted to me, specifically. There must be something wrong with them and it can’t possibly be my fault because my mom said I’m handsome/my dad thinks I’m pretty.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 08:36 AM
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There was no whataboutism. I, and others, pointed out that “what do you bring to the table” is a trite question that is rarely well intentioned, is intended to put the receiver on the defensive, and is posted here in various iterations on a regular basis. 3 times now this week alone. That’s not including references to the table in deleted posts and the Daily Chat, or course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:47 AM
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I’m quoting those men, not stating my personal belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:38 AM
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“Men built society!” is usually the rallying cry from men who never built anything outside of Minecraft.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:28 AM
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At this house it’s how we just celebrated the latest Trump arrest! <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:40 AM
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The kiss is perfect, but if the date was especially magical the best way to end it would be after brunch the next morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:32 AM
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11 or so when it became noticeable. I had my period at 9 and I had C cups by middle school. I was 10 the first time a friend’s 18 year old brother propositioned me during a sleepover. The nicest thing I can say about incident is that he was polite about it and took the “no” respectfully. But he should not have asked a 10 year old in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:20 AM
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It is posted here incessantly along with age gap relationships, body count, and why won’t women date short guys. Please, come up with something new to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:48 AM
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It’s been posted twice already in the last 3 days. See my other comment as well as u/CustomerSeparate949’s reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:34 AM
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I assure you, if men disappeared tomorrow, women would keep things going. That’s traditionally been the case during wars when men go off to fight. Never heard of Rosie the Riveter?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:26 AM
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Didn’t exclude relationships either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:21 AM
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I was referring to not needing be in a relationship with a man. Not the oft-ballyhooed “men run society” that so many men who don’t run shit like to spout.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:16 AM
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It was literally posted 3 days ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/15xr2fz/discussion_what_do_you_bring_to_the_table/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:56 PM
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Or a bottle of vodka.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:50 PM
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I have been here since 2017 and this question is asked at least once a week if not more. It is a cliche at this point and if you don’t believe the answers that were given the last 300+ times this question was asked, nothing any woman says will change your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:44 PM
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So block those accounts and follow higher quality people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:40 PM
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I’m not going to bother defending women to someone who is clearly hostile to them. It would be a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:39 PM
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Get to know a woman and determine for yourself if she brings anything to the table that you find valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:37 PM
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My point exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:36 PM
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No, I’m saying it is a question intended to put women on the defensive. If you can’t get to know a woman and determine if she is someone you want to spend time with without treating her to a business interview instead of a date, you should probably give up dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:36 PM
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I don’t. But I’m a tall and willowy 5’2 1/2.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:33 PM
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I typed up a nice reply and Reddit ate it. If I see a man who makes the effort to dress well, wears great shoes, takes time with hair and such, I will notice and think better of the kind of person he is. It would definitely raise his SMV/RMV and I would not be thinking scornfully of his height or looks. But my husband is 5’8” and dresses sharply when the occasion dictates. The “people” who get offended when a less attractive woman uses makeup or dresses well are largely men. Women would likely j…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:32 PM
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Nothing, to anybody who has to ask that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:25 PM
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Yes, I agree. It is a lie that women need a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:12 PM
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I don’t NEED a man, I lived for many years without one, but my husband improves my quality of life. No, not because of money and resources; because we have fun together, are best friends, and saucy lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:01 PM
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Does he call me/text me/DM/chat me? If I do those things, does he seem happy to hear from me? Does he respond within a reasonable time frame or do I hear from him a week later? Does he suggest dates or hangouts? If I suggest dates or hangouts does he seem enthusiastic? During a date/hangout does he seem engaged and interested? Is he flirtatious? I don’t demand or expect physical affection or sex on the first date but is the promise of affection/sex in the near future there? Is he happy to be aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:14 PM
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My pet peeve is the men with necks wider than their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:03 PM
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If he isn’t acting interested, then I assume he isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:02 PM
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I did that for 4 years. After the initial breakup angst, I had a pretty nice little life and I didn't really think much about all the sex I wasn't having. Eventually though, I did have it again. Now I'm in my 50s though, and if something happens and my husband and I are no longer together, I am not particularly interested in dating or trying to replace him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:17 PM
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They want the casual sex for the validation and the sex, not for the loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:03 PM
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I would resent my husband if he tried to take over the more challenging decisions. I deserve to have input into my own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:46 AM
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A lot of women might be glorified children, but the rest of us can handle responsibilities and are used to running their households. Even as children, girls often help their mothers with chores and cooking and baking and taking care of the younger kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:45 AM
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Yeah, no to all of this. First of all, that is not what RP means when they say treat women like children and it is disingenuous to pretend otherwise. Second, calling a romantic partner Daddy makes my skin crawl. I do not want to think of my father during sex. We are a team. Partners. Not father and child. I pay the bills and do the paperwork. He does contribute his fair share, but I am just better at it. He does the car stuff because he is better at it. And I have handled major responsibilities …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:09 AM
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My daughter’s dad is bipolar but I did not know that until our kid was almost 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:35 AM
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I don't think anybody thinks about their partners in this way. I think PPD men complicate emotions to an absurd degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:50 AM
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He claimed to be the supreme gentleman! I actually read that whole manifesto.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:41 PM
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And why are you leaving out this bit: "he said he didn’t fancy me any more" Are you intentionally leaving out the part that doesn't support your premise?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:34 PM
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Why is it scary to ask what makes them male spaces? Men here bitch and complain about how women won't take jobs traditionally for men - now here are you complaining about men invading "male spaces." Men complain about not knowing how to meet women but also don't want them in "male spaces." What makes them male spaces? Why are they off-limits to women? As far as I can tell, locker rooms and restrooms are still segregated, you can still be naked with other men without women present.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:27 PM
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I suspect he has ED and is defending himself by being insulting because he can't perform. By insulting her, he pushes the responsibility for his inability to get it up on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:22 PM
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I didn't get shit in my divorce. Didn't ask for anything but custody, which was easily granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:20 PM
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...Kinda?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:17 PM
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Nobody said she was an angel or that there are never fights in relationships. From what it sounds like, he had arthritis and cancer and she thought he was not interested in sex. So then he had to tell her that she was old and wrinkled and he didn't find her attractive? Like he is some Adonis? Again, she would be better off with boxed wine and cats than with someone who belittles her and mocks her looks and age, especially since, you know, he is the same age. Maybe he's going senile.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:12 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:09 PM
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How do you know what she did or didn't say? Were you there?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:47 PM
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There is nothing wrong with not wanting to date one, particularly if you don't want children or aren't ready to. But yeah, disparaging them with no information is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:46 PM
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What makes them "male" spaces, specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:29 PM
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She should divorce him. She'd be happier with boxed wine and cats rather than a man who insults a wife who has been by his side for over 3 decades and supported him through cancer. My dad is single...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:29 PM
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My parents - dad, mom, stepdad, are all coffee drinkers. And smokers. And have terrible teeth. My sister is also a coffee drinker and smoker and has problem teeth. My daughter does not drink coffee or smoke but she's had cavities. So I know it's not genetic, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:26 PM
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I like my teeth looking white and shiny. I’ve also never had a cavity so I must be doing something right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:14 PM
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I loved every minute of it. I might have liked it better with more money though. I was a single mom because I was divorced, so PPD men don't bother telling me about how all single moms are degenerate. I won't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:55 PM
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I drink tea and the rare cup of coffee with straws because the liquid bypasses your teeth and doesn't stain them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:53 PM
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Or they just do it without making it legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:52 PM
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My bully committed suicide. I feel no glee over this, only sadness. In retrospect I imagine his bullying behavior was reflective of his home life. His brother committed suicide as well. Ex-partners - Well, one of my high school boyfriends lives in SF now and makes music. I have not seen him even though he's less than 2 hours away. But we keep in touch on Facebook. Another one lives in Maryland and has a wife, 4 dogs, and a cat. We are pretty close and I got to see him and his wife a few years ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:11 PM
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I don’t think of it that way either, I just… do it. We’re married, so it all goes into and out of the same pot one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:36 PM
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Yeah, I don’t complain nearly as much about paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:16 PM
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That’s true!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:11 PM
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Personally I have my doubts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:10 PM
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I guess I’m just old school and like the occasion of getting together. Or maybe I am slowly going feral from working from home the last 3 years and am starved for human companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:06 PM
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So not a larper?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:03 PM
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It’s been a while since I played but sitting at a table with friends and drinks and dice and books vs sitting alone in your bedroom or living room talking to people with a headset would be a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:01 PM
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See my flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:32 PM
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Even in college I avoided the beer pong guys and went for the music guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:18 PM
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You haven’t seen him naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:16 PM
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I love me some Dungeons&Dragons, though I haven’t played in decades. Nobody to play with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:15 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:15 PM
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Nothing wrong with finding someone attractive, even if they are objectively out of your league. Making your attraction her problem would be an issue, by which I mean if you asked her out and she said no and then you kept pestering her. But just being attracted or even going so far as to ask her out is nothing to feel guilty about. But you seem to have a better rapport with her friend. What is up with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:14 PM
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Speak for yourself. I would LOVE to split costs 50/50. I make more, so I pay more. He contributes and doesn’t allow himself to be a financial burden, but I like little luxuries like not having to cook every night, so I am willing to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:09 PM
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If all he wants to do is sit on the couch and watch hours of sports or play hours of video games, has nothing interesting to talk about, has no hobbies that involve not sitting in front of the tv. I like TV and video games too, but not at the exclusion of having a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:02 PM
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Succubi are female. The male version is an incubus.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:29 AM
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Not a bit. I lost mine with another virgin, but we did not stay together. After that I did not care if he was a virgin. Neither did the men I slept with care if I was one. And not in a “sure he’ll sleep with you but he won’t commit” way. I’ve cohabitated 3 times and been married twice. Those relationships lasted 6-10 years. My other relationships have lasted 1-3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:37 AM
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I am not, since I did not sacrifice my own happiness just to be in a relationship with somebody, anybody. But there are people that do. They frequently admit that here on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:29 AM
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You left out the context - that you accepted the relationship despite actually not being interested in that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:41 AM
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Oh then I apologize. My main character syndrome must have kicked in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:40 AM
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Wanting a relationship is normal. Accepting a relationship with someone because they are the first available option even though you are not attracted to them and/or don’t really like them is desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:27 AM
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I might run with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:09 AM
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Taught my kid to read before she started school. A friend asked me “Aren’t you afraid she will be bored when she gets to school?” Short answer, no. Long answer, nooo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:39 AM
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According to Google it is in fact a myth. So much of my childhood was a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:00 AM
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Didn’t they feed men saltpeter in institutional situations to achieve a similar effect? Or was that a myth?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:50 AM
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I’m not sure! Willow would probably know. Here they are with their Mama. I call her Sterling. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:33 AM
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I know what you’re talking about, I just don’t always agree or I think there are other sides to examine. I do agree with you on George Harrison though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:29 AM
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<image> Baby duck friends. What should I name them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:25 AM
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His brother looks just like him but fat. Looking at his brother is like looking at him but in a fun house mirror. So weird. He's diabetic and vacillates between too thin and normal weight. He can also eat an entire carton of ice cream before bed 2-3 times a week and not gain a pound, which he should not do because of the diabetes but also I am very jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:14 AM
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Is 2x in the room with us right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:03 AM
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It’s already free, I thought. At least I never had to pay an entrance fee.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:39 PM
2

I thought the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:36 PM
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Most of the normal women I know have been assaulted, including my mother. I have not been, but I have been cornered in a public restroom by a drunk business executive who thought the secretaries were fair game.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:35 PM
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I'm older, I'm not stupid. I've had perfectly sober sex too. You don't need to drink to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:20 PM
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And they are welcome to do so! I myself will not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:14 PM
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Not just finding someone you actually want to have sex with - they actually want to have sex with you too. Guys in the top 5-20% have standards after all, because they can. Despite the hysteria on PPD, most top tier men are not having sex with average girls. They are having sex with top tier girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:53 PM
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Getting sex is easy. I could probably walk outside and get someone to have sex with me right now. They'd probably be a smelly old bum, but hey, beggars can't be choosers, right? The point is, acquiring sex is the easy part. Finding someone you want to have it with, who also wants to have it with you, is the hard part.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:20 PM
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I've dated men with intact families who were fucked up anyway because they had complex relationships with their fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:13 PM
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When I left my first husband my daughter and I stayed at a friend's apartment while she stayed with her boyfriend at his house. My ex told everybody that I was living with a bunch of lesbians and we were all sleeping together. Fortunately, people understood he was undergoing some mental health issues so nobody believed him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:09 PM
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I agree with you on wife goggles (and women get husband goggles too!). But I don't agree that you need to marry young to get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:18 PM
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I have never left a man for another man, personally, though I've left them for not being good partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:16 PM
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She shouldn't marry young because it increases your likelihood of divorce. On the other hand, if you have children young and the relationship breaks up, you'll also be broke! They are banking on that, so you can't leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:15 PM
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Yes. I said in another comment "depending where you live."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:44 PM
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Yes, I have met someone who was the right person at the wrong time. Perhaps there was a clear attraction between us but we were both in other relationships. Or I met them at a time when we would have been LDR if we tried to make it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:42 PM
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Number 2 might be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:25 PM
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I do understand men wanting to be careful about not being accused of rape. Establishing consent should handle most of that. That said: 1 - Why not just have sex with women who are not drunk, instead of having sex with drunk women and taking pains to pretend to be drunk "just in case"? Sounds predatory. 2 - Sounds creepy. I don't want anyone recording my sexcapades, even just audio. Also depending on where you live wouldn't recording someone without their knowledge be a crime in and of itself? 3 …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:18 PM
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I know 2 couples that broke up during the lockdown but there were big problems in those relationships preceding the lockdown. We had a great time during the lockdown. I'd make a delicious breakfast and pack a lunch, and then we'd go hiking. We got to explore trails further out than we would normally go. Then we'd come home and I'd make something fabulous for dinner. We watched Tiger King and streamed the various benefit shows and had sex whenever we wanted to because what else was there to do? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:08 PM
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Lamb is my favorite. Fool is also very good. A Dirty Job is also great. I got to meet him at a book signing once. I already owned Lamb, but the book store had a copy that resembled a bible that I was thinking about buying. A guy standing nearby with a backpack and a hat encouraged me to buy it, so I did. Then the author was introduced - it was the same guy who encouraged me to buy the book. I hadn’t recognized him. He was delightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:19 PM
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I don’t feel that way, as it happens, but a lot of women don’t cum from PIV and a lot of men won’t do oral, so my money is on the orgasm gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 09:06 AM
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A miniature pinscher.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:41 AM
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Women usually cooked the food that’s on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:40 AM
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I love charcuterie. It has “cute” right there in the name!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:39 AM
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I like the first 3. I love a good trilogy. Do you like Christopher Moore?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:01 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:59 AM
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Tiiiiin roof Rusted
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:59 AM
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He does that now… with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:57 AM
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God forbid that people who had shitty childhoods be given a shot at a happy adulthood. Let’s needlessly stigmatize people who had no say over how they were raised, instead!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:56 AM
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I like all of those authors too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:49 AM
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His eyebrows, musical ability, and joie de vivre.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:48 AM
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Skateboarders are hot. What do you like to read? Top 3 recs? Not hitting on you because old and married, just offering feedback and also curious about a fellow reader.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:45 AM
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You sound potentially desirable on paper. What do you do for fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:34 AM
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More often.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:13 AM
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I’ll take 5 out of 6 please.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:13 AM
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No he would have been miserable and thought “divorce rape” and “be stoic” any time he met a woman and had a chance at happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:12 AM
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I’ve watched it 3 times in the last 2 days.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:10 AM
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I think this is one of the more, er, interesting takes I’ve heard here in a long time and that is truly saying something. Nobody is forcing you to be a ditch digger or a cattle herder (not “herder”). Women working does not relegate men to menial jobs. Get an education and build a career. Lord knows most CEOs are male already, a few more won’t kill us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:00 AM
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I like 2X, actually. I don’t agree with everything expressed there (or here, or anywhere), but I can relate to many of the experiences other women have shared. I am less embracing of FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:56 AM
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My love for Jack Black is eternal and oft repeated but regardless of that I wish I would have been at this party. https://youtu.be/vSIPRCZa_vk
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:47 AM
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Share that recipe! I just replace oil with canna butter in a boxed mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:34 AM
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You win.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:34 AM
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The chairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:48 AM
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Borrow one of my husband’s Trazadone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:32 AM
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That is not Matt Bomer so I reject your premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:31 AM
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My husband is 5’8” and I don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:30 AM
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I love that movie, but I love anything with music.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:29 AM
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Why would be dating be important? So I could meet someone I care about. Why would going out be important? For one, it’s a neutral environment that neither of you can claim. For two, it’s fun! For three, it’s not really fair to expect to order in your girlfriend like she’s DoorDash.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:27 AM
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You have men on this very sub confessing that they have or would mislead women about their intentions in order to get laid, so I am sure you are wrong at least in a shit ton of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:18 AM
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They can’t communicate honestly, they might not get laid. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:14 AM
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Thank God my husband never discovered the manosphere. He might have ended up very unhappy because manosphere assholes informed him that men lose in marriage and he might have believed it. And then he would have spent the last 10 years bitter, ill and suffering alone instead of having someone who cares about him by his side.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:06 AM
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There are few things I hate more than men suggesting that women don’t love men but the idea of men, but that is the justification my ex-fiancé used to explain away his cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:01 AM
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He could see shapes and movements, from what I recall, so he was not 100% blind. Back then he still lived with his parents but that was when we were both young and living with parents would have been standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:47 AM
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I am! Edit: he looked a little like Robbie Benson back in the day. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:31 AM
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I know for a fact I would date a blind guy so I can envision dating a mute guy under the right circumstances. I’ll be honest though, it’s never come up, unlike the blind guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:48 PM
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I don't think I've ever been confronted with a micropenis. At least not noticeably so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:46 PM
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Used to know this guy who was like heroin chic thin (the aesthetic, not the usage) and not particularly tall but he was rumored by friends to be well endowed. I had a boyfriend at the time so I have no personal knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:45 PM
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American right-wing political commentator ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:20 PM
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They say there is a correlation between foot/hand size and penis size. I don't know if it's true, but why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:18 PM
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I'll take the first two.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:48 PM
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I don't think so per se, but women tend to be attracted to men within a few years of their own age. So an 18-22 year old might like the K-Pop guys, a 22-30 year old might be attracted to a Timothee Chalamet or a Tom Holland, a 30-40 year old might like a Hemsworth or Zak Efron, and so on down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:48 PM
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Not really that difficult tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:05 PM
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Also not if she wants her own children and he is done having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:00 PM
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Not preferable is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:58 PM
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They can be, if they're a good and engaged father and not a father in name only. The caveats being - dealing with the ex-wife/girlfriend/baby mama, and whether the kid(s) are open to their father dating or if they are hostile. I also have a friend whose wife divorced him because when he lost his job she was expected to pay child support on his 4 kids. She was a cashier at a grocery store and made nowhere near enough to support 4 kids that weren't hers. I lived with and was engaged to a single fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:56 PM
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He showed up but with another of our friends (male) so yeah, it took a minute for him to get it. I don't remember all the details because it was 30 years ago but eventually the friend left and he ended up spending the night (no sex though the first night). We were together 6 years, married 4. One bebe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:21 PM
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I mean, I have a job and I make more money than he does. So him paying the bills and me not earning an income does not apply here. But yes, I do expect birthday and Christmas presents. It's not about how much money he spends on the gifts either, it's more about the thought he puts into it. At the very least, make me dinner and bake me a cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:33 PM
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I met my ex-husand because we both worked at the same summer resort. I worked in the gift shop, he worked in the ice cream parlor. During our off hours we ran with the same crowd and so I got to know him socially. I had an inkling he might like me because he quoted the Princess Bride at me during our interactions. Anyway, he never made a move so I arranged for my roommate to be out one night and I invited him over after work to smoke weed and drink Boones Farm. (It was sold at the small general …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:54 PM
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I’m an introvert with social anxiety. I still have male friends and though I don’t go out much nowadays, I did go out quite a bit when I was younger. Now we’re all old and going out equals hitting a happy hour, or gathering at one of our friends’ houses to eat cheese and drink wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:47 PM
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/Complement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:01 PM
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<image>
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:58 AM
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Very often hobosexual men target women with low self esteem and not much experience. So not that attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:47 AM
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But you can whine and listening to whining about dry dicks all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:44 AM
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There’s lots, but neither will listen and both are adults. They will just need to make their own mistakes. My empathy though is to the 19 year old being exploited, not the 35 year old trying to cling desperately to his youth or make up for the sex he didn’t have in his 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:43 AM
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About oppression, sure. I could listen all day. About not being able to get your dick wet but also not being willing to talk to girls? Well, despite frequent exposure here it gets old fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:34 AM
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This is the wrong tree and you are barking up it. My husband is 7 years older. Nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:33 AM
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They do actually but they don’t call it that. Hobosexual men will often find themselves girlfriends who pay the bills and keep a roof over his head.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:32 AM
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Oh, look, more whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:25 AM
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I feel like a lot of the women I know are stronger than a lot of the men I know - not physically (though this can also be true) but in terms of resilience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:24 AM
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I do pay or split. But I am not on this sub every day whining about being a beta bucks either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:22 AM
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No but it’s always nice to have it codified!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:21 AM
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In my country they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:10 AM
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More excuses. Nobody is going to save you, dude. Put on your big boy panties and learn how to talk to girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:06 AM
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We all feel entitled to sympathy at some point in our lives. Half this sub is men feeling entitled to sympathy because they can’t get laid at will despite not wanting to approach women, make a move, or God forbid pay for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:56 AM
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I was thinking more about if the woman is insecure about them but sure, that works too!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:26 AM
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We had the worst cat when mine was 3. It was almost feral. You could not pet her or hold her… unless you were a toddler. My daughter could carry that thing around like it was a doll and it would be docile in her arms. At bed time it would stand next to her door and mreow until I let it in. Kitty eventually mellowed out and we had that cat 16 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:25 AM
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They give you the best drugs in an epidural. It doesn’t necessarily mask all the pain but you’ll be too high to care. I do have stretch marks but the boobs stayed fairly perky for their size. And certainly it was not always easy financially but I would not say it had a negative impact on my career. If anything it gave me an imperative to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:19 AM
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The impact of motherhood on dating and sex is greatly exaggerated ime. Even with the stretch marks. Just throw on a saucy lil nightie.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:15 AM
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If you don’t want kids by all means don’t have them. I loved being a mom to a little and I love being a mom to a 20-something. Does being a mom lower your SMV or RMV? Who cares. I’ve definitely regretted some of the men I’ve dated. I’ve only got the one kid but I’ve never regretted having her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:38 AM
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Good points all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:15 AM
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Dark hair Dark eyes Taller than me (I’m 5’2 and change) Not picky Don’t care as long as he can support himself. See# 5 More than 0 More than 0 Agnostic or atheist is preferred but I can date a believer as long as they do not want to convert me. Don’t care as long as they enjoy having sex with me. Within 5 years in either direction, for my husband I allowed 7 years. Liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:29 AM
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Everything I know about special k I learned from Party Monster and the book it’s based on. Is it all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:16 AM
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I’d vote for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:10 AM
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Oscar Isaac I think, but then I switched him out for Pedro Pascal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 11:42 PM
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Even though he was legally of age, being my friend’s son and just a few years older than my kid ruled him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 11:33 PM
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He was the youngest person on my laminated card but I had to boot him for someone else after he assaulted someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:51 PM
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I find 3 of those men attractive and none of them are Leo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:34 PM
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You are running the risk of being banned for sexualizing minors. Just forewarning you!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:01 PM
1

You just described my husband too!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:57 PM
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I'd 2nd that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:01 PM
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No. He's already a good 6 inches taller than me, which means I can wear heels if I want to, which I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:00 PM
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We need a PPD girls' night out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:52 PM
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I once spent 20 minutes chatting with a bearded man with a receding hairline. He was attractive and interesting and had soulful brown eyes and a thoughtful demeanor. He was also drinking a beer. Came to find out he was the 19 year old son of my host. I was 37. I excused myself to freshen my drink and find someone more age appropriate to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:44 PM
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Welcome to the fold, fellow hippie!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:38 PM
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You can send the hot 45-60 year old bearded and tattooed men my way. Not really, since I'm married (to a 58 year old with a beard and tattoos.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:34 PM
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I don't care about the gym so much as long as he is active - the tats and beard are cool but what is a viking hairstyle exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:32 PM
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It's because of his dachshund. Every woman loves a man with a good wiener.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:31 PM
1

Everyone lies to some extent. If they tell you they never lie, they are lying. In terms of OLD, if you are just looking for a hookup it probably does not matter much. If you want something more serious, or meet someone with whom something more serious is a desired possibility, it will screw your chances if your lies are obvious, frequent, or easily disprovable. I don’t think exact or height measurements are necessary, the person has eyes and can tell if you are attractive to them or not. And wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:43 PM
1

I’m good with taller than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:25 PM
3

I like to direct it right out my vagina and have it hit a bullseye I have set up on the wall across from the bed. It goes “Ding!”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:23 PM
1

Being dumb. Making stupid decisions and then acting like the world is treating you unfairly because you are suffering the consequences of your own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:10 AM
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In a relationship I typically have a higher libido than my partner. I don’t think sex is unimportant and I would be just as unhappy in a sexless bedroom as he would. But that is in an established relationship. When not in a relationship I can go years without it, and have. In the very early stages of a relationship I can get to know someone before having sex with them. I can, within a relationship, go without sex because he is out of town or is sick or whatever. So I still believe sex is not a n…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:08 AM
3

After taxes, rent/mortgage, bills and court ordered child support, sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:00 AM
3

No, but those babies are entitled to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:58 AM
1

Men provide the sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:57 AM
2

No, because bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 01:56 AM
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Is this the male accountability we hear so much about around here? You don’t want to take preventative measures like wearing condoms and then you want other people to raise the babies you willingly made?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 01:35 AM
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Because we do not need the average Joe equivalent of Nick Cannon making dozens of babies and then expecting other people to pay for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 01:33 AM
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I also would not like to meet my financial obligations but there would be consequences if I just stopped paying my bills. As there should be for men who expect others to pick up the tab for the babies they made.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 12:08 AM
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Why would they not pay child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 12:01 AM
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This sounds like bullshit to me. Like the guys who want women to blow them on demand because men built the railroads or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:59 PM
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No. If you create a child, you should contribute to its upbringing. My taxes should not go up, nor should YOUR child starve, because you didn’t want to wear a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:53 PM
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How is money rooted in biology? Other than, you know, not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:51 PM
2

That’s not why. It’s because they don’t want to raise taxes to cover welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:45 PM
4

So you don’t believe fathers have a responsibility to the children they spawn?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:43 PM
0

Yes, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:42 PM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:41 PM
3

I don’t hate them, though I am not fond of the idea of them exploiting women for sex. On the other hand, that exploitation probably supports her immediate family. It’s a conundrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:08 PM
1

I’ve always just split or taken turns.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:06 PM
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I’ve kept my husband fooled for 10 years. Or maybe he just thinks my true succubus form is sexually arousing. One of the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:35 PM
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I wear the amulet that hides my true succubus form on every date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:29 PM
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To be fair, we don't have hurricanes here as a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:55 PM
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I don't really count drinks from friends, do you? But random men offering to buy women drinks just doesn't really happen to the extent they seem to believe. I don't know if it's generational or where they live or maybe I just hang around the wrong men, idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:53 PM
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Not even when it's on fire. We seem to have gotten better with earthquakes though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:51 PM
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I 2nd this, it would be hilarious to see the fuming when she bans someone for not being civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:49 PM
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We had an untraditional amount of rain in January 2023 and we lost a shit ton of trees. There are still trees down from those storms in our neighborhood park that were never taken care of, and houses taken out by fallen trees that haven't been rebuilt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:47 PM
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Norcal checking in, no rain expected for the next 10 days. But thank you, and tots and pears to my southern brethren.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:40 PM
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Sure, I've both accepted rounds or paid for rounds, but I haven't often had dudes ply me with drink in the hopes of getting laid. My husband frequently comped me margaritas in our early days (and even now) but he's a bartender so it's not like he paid for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:32 PM
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Well, obviously the cheating, since I already mentioned it. What I care about is if I feel like he "gets" me and is one of my people, and if I have a kind of connection with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:29 PM
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I look amazing after sex. The dilated eyes, the glistening skin, the tousled bedroom hair...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:10 PM
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I outearn my husband. We also fuck. The good stuff too, not just missionary and a blow job on his birthday.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:02 PM
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I'm stealing delulu.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:01 PM
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In the real world outside of PPD, men don't really care that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:59 PM
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Is she still around?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:56 PM
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As far as I know. One's got a kid and is a single mom. Her mom is one of the first of my friends to be a grandma.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:53 PM
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Heroin seems to be mostly people lying around half comatose. Doesn't look so fun to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:51 PM
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How is the Umbrella Academy? I haven't read or seen it yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:50 PM
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You don't just have sex for validation. You have it because it's fun and it feels good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:37 PM
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I guess? I can think of at least 5 friends whose 20something kids either still live with them or who moved back during Covid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:33 PM
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A lot of the lesbians I know had kids with men before they figured out they were lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:30 PM
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What if he doesn't want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:28 PM
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Samples from my playlist this morning. https://youtu.be/ipvEIZMMILA https://youtu.be/esA4keoRoQ0 https://youtu.be/LeHlvXvG6vA https://youtu.be/BdrNvQ4YCng What do you have that I need to add?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:26 PM
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I'm Gen X and it wasn't a big thing when I was younger. Unless I'm just hideously ugly, which I am no Margot Robbie but I don't think I'm grotesque either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:16 PM
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Until PPD I didn't realize that men buying women drinks was such a big thing anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:10 PM
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Yes, the handful of women you have had grudging sex with are symbolic of the millions of women who don't want to be touched when they dislike a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:08 PM
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I am still shy and awkward. Less so after a margarita or two. Since he was bartending when I met him, he got to see post-margarita Astro and not shy and awkard Astro. Technically he got to see before and after margarita Astro.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:42 PM
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That's ridiculous. Random Brad is having way more kids than Chad. Chad doesn't particularly want them. To be brutally honest in an era where most couples divorce anyway, it's not like she can expect either Chad or Brad to stick around, but Chad is a lot less likely to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:39 PM
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Children hating their parents is hardly revolutionary. You'll grow out of it when you need babysitters for your own kids though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:35 PM
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Black Parade era Gerard Way was a pretty pretty man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:33 PM
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Not always, no. Very often girls were shipped off by their families to homes for unwed mothers or the parents "had late in life babies" and the baby was raised as a younger sibling to its mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:26 PM
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I got to know him, talked to him, flirted with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:11 PM
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Yes! It’s why after 3-4 of months of gradual flirting, my husband and I had sex not only on the first date, but on the way to the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:10 PM
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In 1953 the teen birth rate was 88.2 per 1000 girls 15-19. In 2018 it was 17.4. Yes, birth control accounts for the drop but just the numbers show that teens in the 50s were fucking. https://www.everycrsreport.com/files/20200513_R45184_3b5a5f05a7993f7442fa74f587535c564018e60f.html
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:08 PM
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You’ve never heard of beatnicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:00 PM
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And affording them how?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:52 PM
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My dog thinks he’s a cat. He was raised by 2 cats. Instead of doing the puppy bow his dumb ass will walk up to another dog and rub up against him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:41 PM
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Aw, that’s sweet!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:40 PM
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You can have sexual compatibility without fucking at the earliest opportunity. Let it simmer a couple of dates. The first time will be hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:38 PM
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What about 2 examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:37 PM
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I knew my husband 3-4 months before our first date. I was not DTF during that time. I was, however, DTF on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:36 PM
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I love mine too!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:35 PM
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Young US women like young US men can barely afford rent and many are moving back in with their parents or never moving out in the first place - how are they going to have babies in this economy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:34 PM
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The last breakup I had was because he cheated. Not because I was not physically attracted. And with my first husband it was because he was engaging in mentally unwell behavior. I didn’t lose physical attraction to him either. In both cases I no longer wanted to have sex with them, but for emotional reasons not lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:32 PM
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I lived in a quaint little town along the Mason Dixon line where everybody went to church and the Unitarian Universalists were considered Satanists. And many girls had babies or even got married before they graduated HS, including my little sister who did both. There was the AIDS epidemic but it was still considered a gay disease at first, especially in Small Town USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:22 PM
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He’s 5’8”. That’s taller than Tom Cruise, James McAvoy, his Spider-Man twin Tom Holland. I used to think Toby McGuire, Daniel Radcliffe and Elijah Wood were interchangeable but apparently Toby is the tall one. Daniel is 5’5” and Elijah is 5’6”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:12 PM
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Thank you for saying that. I wasn’t particularly happy with her for sleeping with him behind my back either, so I did not end up with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:02 PM
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Is Toby MCGuire what we are calling average now? But the fact is I do not care about any of that and it would not move the needle. Editing to say I do care about the cheating. Just nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:37 AM
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I probably would not notice tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:25 AM
2

I’m still fanatical about condoms for casual, but my mother kindly took me to see her friend in the hospital a few days before he died of AIDS in my formative years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:17 AM
2

Experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:37 AM
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It don’t know, it was 2012.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:09 AM
2

No, I’m sorry. I hope you find what you are looking for though!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:37 AM
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I was not particularly looking for men young enough to be my sons, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:28 AM
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Yes. Thank you. A voice of reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:59 AM
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Had to be. I met my husband in 2013 and my foray into OLD was a year before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:22 AM
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Just wait until she holds your hand during your first prostate exam.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:16 AM
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Oh, what happened? You’re in one of the fire zones? You okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:10 AM
7

True enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:06 AM
20

And men have the right to be arrested for harassing random women on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:54 PM
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“Run, Simba! Run away, and never return!” I think you’re awesome but this place is toxic. You deserve better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:32 PM
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I’ll give you No. 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:29 PM
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Go ahead and fuck with your health and possible future fertility. Hard pass from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:21 PM
2

Nobody has to do it. But I already said in my own comment to this thread (and elsewhere on this sub) that you can approach. Just be chill if you're rejected. Too many men aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:15 PM
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That was over 10 years ago, maybe they've gotten smoother. Idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:14 PM
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Um, no. Please stop lying, Syphilis and gonorrhea have made comebacks and chlamydia is rampant. Especially among koala bears but that's another story. Some of the biggest hotbeds of STD outbreaks are nursing homes and retirement centers, where people assume they don't need checked because they are too old to get pregnant or impregnate someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:39 PM
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Yes! They led with "I am a 22 (or 24, or 26) year old virgin looking for a caring, older woman to teach me about sex." Or words to that effect. Edit: For reference, I was 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:34 PM
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A man is allowed to want intimacy with a woman he just randomly approached but a woman is not allowed to want a husband and save her intimacy for that husband, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:33 PM
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If you think sex is bad, then you're having it wrong. As are most of the men who just want to use women as a masturbatory aid rather than as a partner they give a shit about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:31 PM
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Did you forget STDs?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:29 PM
5

Why would you assume a younger man would be pleasurable?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:28 PM
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When I was OLDing I got a barrage of incels younger virgin men looking for an older woman to have sex with them. I rejected each one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:27 PM
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Lots of recently divorced / separated women looking for rebound fun Sure You get points as a guy simply for being a bit younger than them. It's big validation for women to hookup with much younger guys For some. For the rest of us it is cringy. I tried once and broke up with him because it felt like I was dating my son. They aren't insecure about seeking casual sex, and offer guidance in what they want. Yes, very often. They have more conscious view of time , less likely to be flaky Depends. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:25 PM
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Wanting a happy relationship is different than wanting to use someone as a fleshlight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:18 PM
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I don't have a problem with that as long as you are mindful of her possible discomfort and move on amiably instead of being acting like an ass because she either didn't want you or didn't have the time or interest to deal with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:17 PM
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During the 3some? Yes. Because that was the boundary we set - we both needed to be there. NOT, go behind my back and sleep with her without me and hide it and lie about it. It would have been absolutely no better if I had gone behind his back and slept with her, because that is not what we agreed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:03 PM
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It is NOT earning sex. Nobody said anything about earning sex. It's not like a gold star you get on your assignment in kindergarten. It is the point that if you want your partner to want to have sex with you, she actually has to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:59 PM
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Sorry, if I resent you for being a manchild who expects me to clean up after him. I already have a job and it's not being your maid. So I'm not going to want to have sex with you. You not talking to me is not going to make me think "oh what have I done" and throw myself at you. It's going to make me think that my instincts were correct and you are in fact a manchild who would rather be petulant than just grow up and pick up after himself. And yes, it will eventually fail and I will be better off…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:20 PM
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Thank you for your a straight answer. Sounds like she wanted kids and you didn't, which is a perfectly valid incompatibility with no real fault to assign. If the emotional side of the relationship was lacking, then it also makes sense that the sex was lacking. Cheating on her rather than just breaking up with her was not right, but we won't quibble.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:16 PM
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And that's fine. If you don't want to pick up after yourself and they don't want to have sex with you because you are a poor partner and then you get mad and stop talking to them instead of throwing your socks in the hamper, you should probably just break up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:12 PM
10

Did it end because you wouldn't clean up after yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:07 PM
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Nobody is saying you need to negotiate desire. They are saying that you lose desire when you resent your partner. They aren't attempting to bargain with you for sex - they just don't want it, period, when you are not being an adult in your marriage/relationship. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:06 PM
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It's not implied, you are projecting. The one doing the enticing is the one who wants to have the sex. If the man is not getting the sex he wants and he doesn't pick up after himself, he might draw a correlation. But apparently that would require too much self awareness for some men on PPD. Of course nothing is going to be 100% perfect. Nobody is looking for 100% perfect. If you occasionally leave your dishes in the sink, nobody cares. If you're a pig who never cleans up after yourself and expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:00 PM
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No, being a slob means you are neglecting your partner, and your home.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:46 PM
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Men will have sex with women they are unattracted to and actively don’t like. Women’s sexuality is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:44 PM
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"Way too extreme" is an understatement. Nobody said it is your spouse's sole responsibility. What they did say is that a man who is a good partner is more sexually enticing than one who is not. A man who doesn't sit around letting his wife taking care of everything and is proactive about stuff, is going to have a happier wife and won't be fighting with her for a crumb of sex. That seems pretty obvious to me. I don't understand why you would think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:10 PM
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It's more like, over a few months or years resentments will start to form because you are not helping her with your house and family and she will be less inclined to want to have sex with you because of all of that festering irritation from your lack of interest in being a partner. So we're talking a history of you being a slob, not just a singular instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:02 PM
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If my husband weren't banging me just because I expected him to put his dirty socks in the hamper instead of on the floor, I'd leave him and good riddance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:46 PM
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Nobody said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:44 PM
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Do you have a problem with men being good fathers and husbands? It repulses you that a man would take care of his toddler? I got the ick from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:33 PM
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It depends on how old he is. Up to mid20s, being a virgin is common and doesn't really detract from attractiveness. At age 40, more than 0 is sufficient. Were your 2 partners within solid long term relationships? If so, all the better. LTR sex is way better than casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:01 PM
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Of course! I also sometimes see things on TV and ruminate upon it in terms of PPD, just haven't written a post about any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 04:54 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 04:51 PM
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I feel like we literally just had this post three days ago. And lo and behold, we did! So I'll just cut and pasted what I said way back then: There is no "should." There is what works best for the couple. I make more, by quite a bit. I also work more hours. I also do more housework. The reason I do more is because I work all my hours from home. So I can do a load of laundry or clean the kitchen when I have a few minutes throughout the day. He does not have that luxury. However you decide to divv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 04:47 PM
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That's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 04:37 PM
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If I'm in a relationship, it's with the expectation that we will be having regular sex. 90% of the time I am correct. There are situations that I will not want to have sex and that should be acceptable to my partner too. Not as in a dead bedroom, but maybe I'm exhausted or I'm feeling sick or I have some basic female reproductive organ issues. I'm not a 24/7 sex robot. Likewise, sometimes my husband worked a double or doesn't feel well or any number of reasons why he might not feel up to it. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 04:36 PM
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I don't know if I'd hang my hopes on Hank Hill in particular but yes, I agree there is nothing wrong with being an average man with an average life, an average partner, average children. There's a lot of happiness to be had there, if you can appreciate what you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 04:24 PM
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I’ve always dated men my own age, this one happened to be an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:21 PM
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I’m fortunate I guess. I’ve always looked younger than I am, even now. I also married someone 7 years older so that adds to me looking younger by comparison, because I am. I’m not getting younger though, and it is starting to show. Ladies, wear your sunblock! Wear it now, before you’re frantically trying to catch up with all the time you spent neglecting yourself! Men should probably do it too. My dad has has a number of precancerous lesions removed. And if you are balding or your hair is thinni…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:09 PM
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I suppose it would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:03 PM
4

I’ve dated a few short men and it sometimes has seemed that nobody hates short men more than other, slightly taller short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:41 PM
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I thought it was more about gender relations than dating woes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:39 PM
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Everyone has insecurities, yes. I certainly have plenty of my own. I think it’s fine to have insecurities. What is not fine is to have a chip on your shoulder about your insecurities. Or to go into every interaction like Eeyore assuming nobody is going to like you. Or to put the weight of your insecurities on your partner to fix - needing a little reassurance is fine but it gets tiring as the partner to have to do all the time. Or assuming that all your failures in life are determined by the thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:36 PM
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Nobody wants you to be a dancing monkey. Just be fun and interesting to talk to. If that is being a dancing monkey to you, you must be very boring indeed. Just ask questions and listen thoughtfully to the answers, and have stories of your own to tell, be witty if you can. Be flirty, and escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:22 PM
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Maybe I’ve been fortunate but I don’t think this is true. I’ve been and am loved by men throughout my life. Platonically, romantically, and sexually. I am submissive in the bedroom but not so much outside of it. I’ve cohabitated with 3 men in my life (not including parents) and none of them have been leaders or providers, but partners. On another note, my parents divorced in the 70s and my mom’s been remarried for 40-odd years but my father is still in love with her. When he was in the hospital …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:14 PM
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I don’t exactly break out a ruler, do I? I honestly don’t know. I imagine it would be easier to deep throat 3 than 7 though. Not to mention anal…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:02 PM
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That’s what men here say they do, quite frankly, so I am just quoting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:57 PM
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Sounds like she’d be better off without him regardless. He’s not taking care of them already.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:56 PM
1

Only to myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:55 PM
1

Aw, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:54 PM
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Generally speaking by the time I am ready to see him naked, I already like him well enough that it isn’t going to make much of a difference. I’ve never been disappointed by a man’s size. I’m not that hung up on height either though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:05 AM
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It’s not approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:33 AM
1

You don’t have to approach anyone these days. There is online dating. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:48 AM
1

But can those masculine manly teenagers croon love songs while performing synchronized dancing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:09 AM
2

I grew up with a lot of craftsman type guys and I think that is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:07 AM
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Teenagers don’t want masculine and manly, they want other teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:54 AM
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They are young girls and they like young looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:51 AM
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Are you going to tell a 16 year old that he is doomed to a life of single hood and sexlessness? You don’t even know him. I think that shows very little faith in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:33 AM
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Politics, legislation, education, hiking, swimming, reading, books, collecting books, foreign languages, collecting useless trivia factoids particularly about animals, bugs, and birds, music, a small selection of online games, history, cooking, baking, and doing salacious things with my husband. I’m a liberal atheist with an interest in religions and spirituality but I equate it more to folk lore than a belief system. I primarily wear black, I enjoy edibles, I don’t drink beer or hard liquor but…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:22 AM
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It does happen. You can deny it happens, but then you would be as wrong as the Vegetable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:09 AM
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I know people that met that way too but most of the couples I know have either been together for hundreds of years or met either socially or through work. Especially in the food and beverage industry, a lot of people meet though work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:09 AM
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I asked out my first husband. We are no longer together though. Probably another reason for me, in particular, not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:06 AM
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30.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:05 AM
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It’s getting there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:04 AM
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Please tell our Vegetable friend that. He denies it ever happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:03 AM
1

Approaching is a waste of time anyway. Just meet people socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:02 AM
1

And we do! I’ve asked men out before. More often, I’ve not needed to ask, but I’ve made it very clear I was interested. They usually pick up on that pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:02 AM
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Without knowing you I couldn’t say. But I can tell you my daughter had her first boyfriend at 21, and nephew had his at 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:59 PM
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Sure it is! Men can’t be trusted to turn down a woman who they aren’t interested in, if sex is on the table. They will take the sex first and then reject. They willingly admit that here every day, so I don’t know why you are so resistant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:57 PM
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Maybe because you're 16?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:12 PM
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Even the 00s were better. The internet was still relatively ad-free.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:00 PM
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Yep. If you aren't a completely antisocial loner, all things are possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:59 PM
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Nope. Men are more likely to have them than women. https://www.datingadvice.com/studies/5om3o https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2017/06/157756/one-night-stand-casual-sex-facts ​ .
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:49 PM
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No, they're all interested in sex. But at least if a guy approaches, you know he's making an effort instead of taking the free pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:18 PM
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When I was a teen girls weren't even supposed to call boys. And all we had was a land line. Now everyone has phones in their pockets and text each other all day. And nobody care if the girl calls/texts first.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:15 PM
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I'm not even at my own comment yet and everyone so far is saying the same thing - that women don't approach because men will take advantage of them. And yet you refuse to believe it. Why do you suppose that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:13 PM
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It's THE reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:11 PM
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Not wrong. Women will flirt, make excuses to talk to you, play with their hair, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:11 PM
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I didn't shift any blame. There's not really blame to shift, in a hypothetical. I offered scenarios as to why things can be "off" in a couple. It's not always all women. It's not always all men. There are often other elements at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:06 PM
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No, we aren't afraid they will reject us. We are afraid that they will pump and dump us.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:01 PM
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Women tend not to make the first move because we'd end up being used for sex by men who aren't interested in actually dating us but figure we'd be an easy lay. Whereas if a woman isn't interested in a man, she'll probably just say no. That said, plenty of women do make the first move and ask for dates. And plenty of us also pay for half on dates - I've been doing so since I started dating, way back in the 80s. Or taking turns paying for dates, which is what my husband and I did. And no, I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:37 PM
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Perhaps instead of assuming that women just automatically lose attraction for their husbands, we can look at other possibilities in play. Like maybe he has stopped treating her like a romantic partner and started treating her more like a servant he can have sex with. Or maybe she has untreated depression and needs to be seen by a doctor. Or maybe after the prerequisite 2.5 children she is uncomfortable about her body. Or maybe he's let himself go. Many of these things can be solved, if the coupl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:32 PM
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Women tend to be more social than men in general, but sure. My daughter is in her 20s and until recently spent more time on video games than with people her own age. That's changed in the post-Covid era, for which I am grateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:02 PM
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I've been with my husband 10 years, living together 6. When does it decrease, because apparently I'm way behind on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:59 PM
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They are, but people care less about women not having sex. It's considered a virtue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:45 PM
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Ok, but why is that the case? Because parents are not allowed to send our kids outside to play because they'll get arrested for child neglect. Or because they are afraid of their kids being molested, kidnapped, murdered and the like. Sure, some parents can afford after school programs and extracurricular activities. Many others can't. So they stick Junior in front of the TV and hand him a controller to keep him entertained. Weird thing to say. No it isn't. People are addicted to their technology…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:35 PM
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Because at least 2 generations of men have been raised mostly indoors in front of screens and don't know how to turn it off and go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:43 PM
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I've had men urge me to squirt. I'm not a squirter but I don't think it works on demand like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:06 PM
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Women do not come into dating thinking they have the upper hand. First off, women don't think about dating like that at all. Also, self esteem issues impact a lot of women and will certainly not make them feel like they have the upper hand. We also have been raised to not trust men, quite frankly, so we're not going to be running off behind the bushes with most of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:03 PM
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It's not true that women are only attracted to 20% of men and they should stop saying that. 20% of men got identified as attractive from just a still photo. That's all that study says. It also mentions that women were messaging men in the 80% too, but that gets conveniently left out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:00 PM
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You're not giving answers. You're saying "we tried." But you haven't. I want to hear some actual reason why its so important to you that you hold the power in dating and relationships, instead of wanting something more egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:56 PM
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I don't think so, or she would not have been giving in to his threats and having sex with him. She would have been unperturbed and unflappable in her refusals.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:39 PM
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You haven't tried the other way. You just want power over women because you lack it in your lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:37 PM
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I’ll say Attraction isn’t rational, and it goes down, not up, as a relationship goes on. I disagree. We all get older and lose our youthful good looks, but you don't see that when you're looking at the person you love. Or maybe it's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:29 PM
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1-2 months is a considerable amount of time to you? For some couples, opening up the relationship in that situation is practical. For others it is abhorrent. I've never voluntarily refused sex for a month or two from a committed partner. Only reason I can think of other than medical would be if I had to be out of town for work or to see family, and no, I would not be willing to open up the relationship for that. He can use his hand, like an adult. If I simply didn't want to have sex with my part…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:19 PM
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It doesn't answer why PPD men yammer on about being head of the household or needing "the power."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:08 PM
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I married him because we love each other and have a great life together. We also have a pretty active bedroom for a couple of old farts. But getting married does not mean that my husband can demand sex and I must give it to him no matter how I am feeling. Nor can I demand it from him. We both have to want it. Fortunately for us, we do, much more often than we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:07 PM
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Me neither. It's a lot more fun to have sex with someone willingly than to be forced or coerced into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:03 PM
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They did break up. And she remarried. And is having lots of sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:33 PM
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Her new husband enjoys all the sucking the first husband wasn't getting, I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:32 PM
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I also enjoy sex, but that doesn't mean I owe it to anyone I don't want to give it to. Even my husband. I very rarely turn him down and when I do it's because of illness or something. Or if we're arguing, I don't want him touching me. And that is my right, not to be touched. Now if it happened all the time, that becomes a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:31 PM
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That's not clear from what she wrote, that she wanted someone else. It's only clear that she is happier with her 2nd husband than with the 1st.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:27 PM
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It's hard to say because you don't know WHY she lost her desire for sex. It doesn't clarify what "all the time" means either - every day? Multiple times a day? That would be hard for some women. If it was once or twice a week though, something else is in play. She has small children and lord knows she could have been touched out at the end of the day. She could have resentments. She does have resentments, actually, clearly about the sex but could be other things too. She claims he was threatenin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:25 PM
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No! They have miserable girlfriends/wives who will eventually get disgusted and leave them. Then those men will end up here talking about the hypergamy of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:14 PM
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Maybe. Or he's 18-22 and LARPing as a bitter old married man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:09 PM
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There are all kinds of online resources to learn about upcoming technologies. Actually using them is better than just reading about them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:07 PM
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Regardless, she's entitled to accept Jack's advances and refuse Bill's. Or Bob's. Or Susan's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:02 PM
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My husband doesn't yammer on about being head of the household or needing "the power."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:59 PM
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Yeah but it's the puppy that makes the sale. Dudes with muscles are a dime a dozen - dudes with adorable puppies are irresistible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:58 PM
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You just kind of do it, yeah? I work from home so my job is dependent on my ability to keep up with technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:11 AM
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A man treating a puppy with kindness does. There is a reason they make those calendars of firemen or whatever holding cute puppies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:48 AM
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I met my core group of girl friends when I was 22-25 and I am 52 now. There are 9 of us. 3 of them have known each other since high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:35 AM
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And she truly loves him and is sexually attracted to him right? It’s not because of the money? (It’s because of the money.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:21 AM
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Sure there is. I would rather be single than with a shitty partner. But if I didn’t want to be single (which I would), I could go online and probably find someone. He wouldn’t be Chad, of course, but maybe Chad’s dad is divorced or his dashing uncle is still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:15 AM
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First time was 2014. He would have been 49 and I was 42. Worst time was 2020. Most recently, 2022, he was 58 and I was 51.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 01:44 AM
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Of course he has earned my respect. And while there are ways he could lose it, occasionally showing weakness is not one of them. Unless we’re talking he is too weak to avoid infidelity. That would end my respect right quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:57 AM
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Why would you only socialize with the person you find attractive? Sounds rather lonely to me, and unfair to that person to put the burden of your socialization all on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:40 PM
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Yes, and that same study showed that women still messaged men in the 80%. They weren’t holding out for the 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:28 PM
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You have to understand that I did not meet him via OLD or in a potential hookup or dating situation. We met at his work where I was a customer. I didn’t notice he was attractive, because I was not looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:26 PM
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The data does not say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:19 PM
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Kindness can make you feel warm and affectionate to a person, which DOES create sexual attraction. You want to be closer to them. Watching them with children and puppies may make you imagine what it would be like to have a family with them, which makes your ovaries explode and you want to make babies with them right away, if only figuratively (i.e., baby making activity rather than actually having a baby). It's clear you don't understand how sexual attraction works for women. It's not "women lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:05 PM
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Women are attracted to average men. Go outside and look around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:57 PM
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No, she's trying to get you to empathize with the person who is not cheating but whose partner doesn't trust her anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:55 PM
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My ex is more enlightened and deeply respects me, and women in general. I genuinely like him as a human being, but he has mental health issues that make him not such an easy person to live with. I don't know much about this other person, except he dislikes women and he dislikes me. So not my ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:52 PM
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She's talking about the reverse situation - where the man is the jerk, not the woman. And yes, that happens too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:48 PM
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I've seen my husband in the hospital as weak you can get. He still get lots of sex and affection, and I don't cheat or disrespect him, because I'm happy he's still alive. Which is not to say you don't need boundaries, you do. But the talk of power like you're He-Man or something is just annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:47 PM
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Thank you, kind internet stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:44 PM
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Men can also be gatekeepers of sex! You don't have to have sex with anyone you don't want to, married or in a relationship or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:42 PM
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He seems to not like me very much, but I don't think he's blocked me yet. Just downvotes everything I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:41 PM
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I don't understand why men talk about relationships in terms of "power." "The power in dating", "being head of the household", any of that. Can't you just enjoy sex and relationships without needing to be in charge?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:42 PM
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I didn't say nice. Anyone can pretend to be nice. I said authentically kind. Perhaps you don't understand the difference. Many people don't. Someone who is authentically kind, good with kids, deferential to the elderly, gentle with animals, courteous to the servers at restaurants are 1000% more fuckable than men who are not. Maybe you would marry someone you are not sexually attracted to. I myself would not. It takes more than sexual attraction for a marriage to last though. Compatibility, value…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:38 PM
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No, I don't think all it takes is to be nice. He also doesn't even have to be objectively good looking (I'll send you pics of my ex). Being authentically kind, can elevate a man to another level and can increase your interest in him. The first thing I noticed about my husband was not his looks but his manners. That led me to getting to know him better, which lead me to notice that he is actually pretty attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:17 PM
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I know couples that counseling has worked for. The trajectory of a marriage can be long and fraught with difficulties. Sometimes having an objective 3rd party present to help you navigate those issues will be helpful. I've also known couples that failed despite it. My experience with marital counseling taught me that if only one of you wants to save the relationship, it's not worth trying to save it. The other person might still go to counseling, just to maintain the status quo, but they won't d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:03 PM
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I guess it would depend on the woman, and the way you presented it. A woman who is morally opposed to hookups might be horrified that you had one at all and more so that you did it just for experience. Another woman might listen and understand how that can be, because she has regrets of her own. I've had some pretty frank discussions with my husband about his past and while I wouldn't exactly call the details a turn on, I wasn't possessed by the fatal "ick" either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:38 PM
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I'm not online dating and I've been with someone for 10 years. But my 2 cents below: 1 - No, I am more into character than pretty. Probably not pretty enough myself to care about pretty. 2 - Adults should be mindful that everyone has jobs, responsibilities and needs to sleep so a little delay between texts is understandable. The longer and/or more frequent the delay, the quicker I am to assume he's just not into me and I will just move on. 3 - I don't agree. A man who is deferential and kind on …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:24 PM
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No it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:54 PM
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Humans don't pair bond. We're serial monogamists, not lifelong monogamists. And some humans don't even want to be that constrained.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:48 PM
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Summer reading for you. https://www.amazon.com/Ethical-Slut-Practical-Relationships-Adventures/dp/1587613379
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:33 PM
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If you want to look like an antisocial weirdo, sure. It would be better if you fostered congenial but professional relationships with coworkers of either gender and of course, "don't shit where you eat."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:16 PM
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Violent does not in any way equal masculinity or attractiveness and it's extremely alarming that you think it does. 80% of men are not at the bottom or average. It's more like top 25, 50% average, bottom 25. Most men are not hideous. They just don't stand out in a crowd. They can make themselves stand out in a crowd by being interesting, and many do find ways to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:50 PM
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Generally when a couple enters into an agreement to have 3somes or engage in nonmonogamous activity, they discuss boundaries and ground rules. One of our boundaries was that both of us needed to be there when sexual activity occurred. He proceeded to go behind my back and have sex with her without me present and without even telling me about it. That is the big deal. That ended our foray into 3somes, as far as I was concerned, and was the beginning of the end of the relationship in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:19 PM
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4 years was the longest. I focused on getting my kid graduated from high school and into college, adopted some pets, grew an herb garden. Spent time with friends. Went to some concerts and musicals, went camping, took my kid to Disneyland and Monterey and Pismo Beach and Santa Cruz. By the third year I wasn't even masturbating anymore. Just didn't care. Then I had sex again and had my modest hoe phase. I was making up for the lost time I guess. Then I met my husband and that brings us up to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:09 PM
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Hundreds and thousands of men are being rejected for not being violent? GTFOH with that. No, you're supposed to accept that different people have different experiences and that since you don't know other people's experiences it would be idiotic to say that all people of a particular gender experience the same thing. That's just, you know, logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:58 PM
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I see you enjoy breaking Rule 12. Do you think people are hopping in and out of each other's beds on a daily basis? How much sex do you think people are having? I'm married, and while we have a good sex life we aren't having it every day. During times when I was single I have gone 3, 4 years without sex. I didn't start spewing nonsense about men or declaring all men only date Stacies while good and nerdy women don't get laid though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:55 PM
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Of course not all women are like that. You'd be stupid to think that all women were like that, not to mention uncharitable toward your own mother, grandmother, etc. I've never dated anyone who has behaved violent toward me. None of my friends' husbands or boyfriends are violent toward them, either. Why don't our experiences count? Women's experiences only count to you if you can use those experiences against her, is that what's going on?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:43 PM
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Claiming that almost no good men get sex is wrong. Most men, good or bad, get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:39 PM
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It doesn't matter what your experiences are. Because your experiences are with only a few women. Not all women. Moreover, your experiences are not shared by all men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:36 PM
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No we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:33 PM
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Almost all violent and problematic men get sex because they are willing to resort to being violent and problemetic to get it. I would not call that a win though. And it's absolutely not true that almost no good and working men "get women" gross way of putting it). Most men do in fact get relationships and sex. I know very few single men and most of those men are still getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:32 PM
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I didn't say anywhere that generalization is okay. Why are you making up definitions to words? I said if someone has been raped, or hurt, it's dismissive to focus on defending men rather than, you know, acknowledging that they've been raped or hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:26 PM
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But you aren’t doing that at all. You are looking at what some women do, and extrapolating that because those women make certain choices, all women make the same choices. But you honestly would have no idea, would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:10 PM
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When those men tell you what you are attracted to, it’s usually coming from a place of bitterness. They believe you would not be attracted to them, in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:06 PM
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What part don’t you get?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:13 PM
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100% of women have either experienced it personally or know someone close to them who has. That’s not including just mild harassment like being catcalled and hit on by grown ass men when we’re 12.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:09 PM
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They already do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:07 PM
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How about instead of blaming women for being victimized, you blame the perpetrators? That might go a long way toward women maybe not thinking AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:05 PM
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Are you acknowledging the hurt they faced and saying “not all men” in the same sentence? Maybe don’t do that. It’s dismissive. “Sorry you got raped but not all men rape!” Yeah, that’s not a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:03 PM
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My ex-fiancé cheated on me with our 3some partner. Does that explain how a woman who has had them may not want to continue having them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:56 PM
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Legislative Affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:36 AM
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I was talking about your seamless switch from girls not dating men who are immigrants and working under the table, to girls refusing to date rich men because of their height. I nearly got whiplash.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:00 AM
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Well the women aren’t going to waste their post child rearing years waiting around for dick. So they will probably decline the offer into be sexually loyal to someone who isn’t fucking them every night.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:54 AM
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The theory didn’t mention men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:16 AM
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I didn’t see the hole and stepped into it while walking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:14 AM
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I didn’t see the hole and one foot kind of went into it and I face planted. I didn’t get hurt (that time) but he’s been with me through 2 broken ankles and a broken wrist so he knows I am a klutz.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:12 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:07 AM
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When my husband tells me to be quiet it’s because he’s afraid the neighbors might hear us during sexy times. Which to be honest is a little hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:03 AM
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What if it’s 2 girls not 2 guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:57 AM
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I saw some goats today and they reminded me of you!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:55 AM
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Library, hot tub, an excellent sound system, mood lighting, lots of candles, comfy sofas and squashy arm chairs, my various collectibles, and a kitchenette with wine and snacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:54 AM
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I disagree. There is life and sex to be had after raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:51 AM
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I had an edible and let him carry my backpack and the camp chairs back from the river. I think he thought I would do something dumb like fall in a ground squirrel hole,not like that’s ever happened to me earlier this summer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:49 AM
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I wish you guys would make up your minds and come to a consensus on women. How can we be both gold diggers who want to use men as beta bucks and yet refuse to date men with money because they aren’t tall enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:37 AM
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Men don't need to be attractive. They can be valued for their skill, talent, intellect, work ethic. Women are valued for their beauty and the other stuff is negligible. That's probably why.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:03 PM
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I always offer to split and if I don't plan on a 2nd date, I will insist. If he refuses the offer to split, I will offer to buy after-dinner drinks or pay for the next date. My husband paid for our first, I paid for our 2nd, and so on and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:26 PM
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Nobody cares what 30, 40, 50 year olds do in terms of dating. We expect you to be able to handle your shit by then in ways that an 18-22 year old who hasn’t finished school and whose brain hasn’t fully formed yet, may not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:49 PM
1

Since I split bills on first dates and pay more of the bills since I make more money in my marriage, is it fair to me to make assumptions about how bigoted European men are about American women? Or is it just certain men, such as yourself, making those assumptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:45 PM
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I could have told him that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:38 PM
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Then God is 7!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:36 PM
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If man is 5, if man is 5, if man is 5 then the Devil is 6
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:34 PM
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My husband has a urologist appointment. It's routine and not a big deal. I just mention it because I noticed that the appointment is with the Gender Affirming Care Clinic. It makes it sound a little like he is getting a sex change not just having the plumbing checked, yes? Or maybe it's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:28 PM
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Because just because a guy is interested in a girl, does not mean she automatically belongs to him and/or is not single. She is free to not return his interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:22 PM
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Yeah but at least at Walmart the unattractive people are clothed. Marginally, some of them, but still. And you don't have to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:21 PM
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This is exactly the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:12 PM
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I don't think this is true, at least not for me. I've been approached and while I'm not always amenable, I'm not generally offended by it. My preference is to date people I know socially. Not "guys that have to approach." Not "guys that don't have to approach because they are soooooo attractive" either. My preference is guys I know IRl, that I met organically, and that I've had time to develop a crush on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:11 PM
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I don't think that's true. I think when PPD men say "women are never single" what they actually mean is that women often have someone interested in or orbiting them - whether or not she returns the interest. That doesn't mean she cheats and it doesn't mean she isn't single, just that the opportunity to not be single is there. At least, I think that is what they are trying to say. I think it's dumb logic, but they seem fond of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:06 PM
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Promiscuity is in the eye of the beholder. For most people it just means "has had more sex than me." I'm a serial monogamist as are most of the people I have dated. I got married (and divorced) and had a baby pretty young, so I wasn't spending my 20s riding that alleged cock carousel. I had other priorities. I've had a few casual experiences, but not until I was older and pretty much had closed the door on relationships and marriage. My husband on the other hand was a party star who went to club…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:56 PM
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Thank you! At least someone here gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:31 PM
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I'm speaking hypothetically, or thinking back to past experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:31 PM
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Sure he can shoot his shot. He should anticipate that some women will reject him and not get offended when it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:29 PM
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I said that, right? Nobody cares about an age gap at 40 the way they would at 20? On a long enough timeline though, a reasonable age gap ceases to matter. On the other hand if you're 20 and dating a 50 year old, you can reasonably expect to be cleaning bedpans and changing his diapers by the time you're 50 yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:04 PM
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Maybe it's just me but if I saw a guy dancing and flirting with a girl at a club and they seemed into each other, I would strike him off my list of potentials for the night.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:02 PM
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Apparently we are anomalies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:00 PM
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Would they? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:35 PM
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A woman is not encouraging a free-for-all by accepting the advances of one man. Did Bill not notice her dancing and flirting with Jack? What made him think her dancing and flirting with Jack means she will want to dance and flirt with him too?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:32 PM
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Have you seen some of the men People Magazine has named Sexiest Man Alive? I think there can be a lot of disagreement on who is attractive and who is not. I will never understand the love for Channing Tatum as long as I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:24 PM
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Sorry, not going to lie and pretend all ugly men are nice or all handsome men are narcissists or whatever “nuanced” take in particular you were hoping for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:20 PM
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Most of them do not earn enough money for what they risk to make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:19 PM
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She’s too old to be Gen Z. Gen Z starts ~ 1997. And she has been playing video games for almost as long as she’s been alive. She has the PS5. She has the VR headset. She has a Switch and whatever else. Don’t act like you know more about a woman you have literally never met than her own mother does. You’re gatekeeping video games as a passion for men only, and you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:16 PM
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If I am attracted it will certainly influence my behavior. I get more quiet and a little more shy, usually. If I can tell they are attracted (and sometimes I can) I may perceive that it is influencing their behavior too - maybe flirtier, or more attentive, or finding my lame jokes funnier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:12 PM
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I don’t see how that is bashing men. It’s dumb and it makes women look dumb, and does not really say anything about men at all. Sick boots though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:08 PM
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Did he say he was asexual or autistic, or are you merely attributing those traits to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:06 PM
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I hate a thick military neck. I dislike it when a man’s neck is wider than his head. I don’t particularly have a type and have dated a variety of men. Different races, nationalities, hair/eyes, etc. I do like them to be intelligent, sensitive, and funny. None of them have been gymbros, a few have been on the chubbier side and a few very lean but most are just average build. The shortest was 5’4” and the tallest, 6’4”. So what is it about them that attracted me? Hard to say, right? But I know. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:03 PM
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“Other people let alone a woman” can be considered offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:44 PM
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I like to be alone in the woods too. Well, not alone exactly, since I usually take my dog 🐶. I have not seen the post and he may or may not have been autistic, I don’t know. I think the term has been co-opted by the antisocial and some of the people claiming to be autistic have never been diagnosed. It’s a little like the people who claim they are gluten free for health reasons but really they just jumped onto the latest dietary fad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:39 PM
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I don’t care how old they were when they discovered it as long as they STFU about the alleged immaturity of an adult woman who pays her own damned bills, raised a kid on her own (divorce, not single motherhood), and probably makes more than they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:38 PM
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It’s not only conservative dudes. It’s often men who simply have no idea how menstruation or pregnancy works. Ignorance can be appalling but it can also be funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:35 PM
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Not to mention the possibility of CTE! Also I like being home, so all the constant traveling a professional athlete has to do would get to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:31 PM
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Not always. It depends on the age that you were in the relationship and the width of the gap. My husband is 7 years older but we met in our 40s. Nobody cares about a 7-year gap at 40. It would have been different if I were in my teens and he in his 20s. Or if I were 18 and he had been 30 or 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:29 PM
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Some guys who are very attractive can be narcissistic and full of themselves. Others can be sweet and kind. Most are in between. Some guys who are very unattractive can be bitter and have chips on their shoulders. Others can be good natured and fun to be around. Some so so guys can be pretty cool and interesting. Others can be boring and tepid. And of course, they all probably have their own views of how attractive I am or am not. So that will modify the interactions too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:25 PM
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I’ve heard it quite frequently over the years, often by men who still live with their parents at 25-30 while I’ve been taking care of myself since I was 18 and started raising a kid at 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:18 PM
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They understand humor just fine. Is it by chance possible that you get upset by criticisms of men by women, even if those men aren’t you and/or those men said or believed something ridiculous?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:04 PM
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Oh, I am not clueless and they do say that. Perhaps you are the one who is clueless about what Red Pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:58 PM
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Ick, why would you work as a prostitute if you can’t make more than you would at Walmart?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:57 PM
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The fuck? Yes, you should take your evidence to the police. My husband is into some kinky shit but with other consenting adult humans. He also had to go through an extensive federal background check to become a citizen, which was 6 years into our relationship and a year before our marriage. So I am pretty confident that he is trustworthy and not hiding anything egregious from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:55 PM
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More like Kate McKinnon but sure, Amy can be funny too!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:50 PM
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I think it’s hilarious. And it’s not misandrist to use a man’s own post or comment to note his complete lack of understanding on basic biology. All men aren’t that particularly stupid, right? Right? So by definition not misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:48 PM
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The thought exercise is to imagine a world entirely made up of RP men. The OP literally encourages the reader to make shit up. But as it happens, RP does say that women are the oldest child/oldest teen in the house. I would not date a man who does not respect me. A man who thinks I am a child does not respect me. So I would definitely be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:32 AM
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The average prostitute is not making bank, you realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:24 AM
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Yeah but much older gay men might be happy to pay for much younger ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:23 AM
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I tend to agree with you. It wasn’t the intent but it was effective nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:21 AM
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Would they have the same amount of sex with the same number and caliber of men for free? Probably not, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:15 AM
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The majority of them are definitely doing it for the money, not for funsies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:13 AM
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You can do the exact same thing women do and sell your body. Yeah you’d probably be selling your body to other men, but you aren’t having sex with them out of love or for the joy of sex. You’re doing it for the cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:33 AM
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I don’t think for most women it’s the easy, carefree career these men envision.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:31 AM
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Lesbianism and prostitution are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:18 AM
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I’ve never claimed to be entirely straight. Anyway, maybe you can just let the Johns pay you to blow you. You wouldn’t have to do anything gay yourself, if you didn’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:58 AM
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Women are hilarious. Maybe not in the slapstick fart and poop and testicle punching genres that men enjoy, but there are a ton of funny women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:55 AM
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It sounds like they don’t care about your opinion or do not believe they are doing anything wrong. I tend not to bring up my sexploits unless asked. I will sometimes talk about my first husband but in relation to our mutual kid, not our sex life. But it’s more because one’s sex life not really a polite dinner conversation subject than due to any shame of having had a sex life. My husband and I are pretty open about our pasts, but I still keep it pretty general and not offer extensive details unl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:42 AM
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The average woman does not want to be a sex worker and frankly would not get wealthy from it even if she did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:26 AM
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🤷‍♀️ I’d rather fuck a cute girl than an ugly guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:24 AM
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Why wouldn’t a woman resort to prostitution? Because some of us find it distasteful to sell our bodies to men that we would not otherwise have sex with, and we would rather keep our day jobs. Because we don’t want to risk pregnancy or STDs or risk rape, violence or being murdered to pay the bills. Because some of us have families we would not want to disappoint. Because a lot of women don’t choose sex work but are groomed or trafficked into it. But you don’t need to be jealous and bitter. Just g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:20 AM
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Not necessarily. Gossip offers some snarky opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:14 AM
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Men can also do it, you realize. Sure you’d likely have to have sex with other men, but female prostitutes aren’t exactly going to be getting the cream of the crop of men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:04 AM
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I am a woman and I have never done sex work, but neither do I see sex work as something to be jealous and bitter about. Are you really mad that you don’t have to sell your body to strangers to survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:24 AM
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She’s a millennial and she was into video games before she ever knew nerd culture existed. Possibly even before you were born. She had a PS1 and a Gameboy before she even started kindergarten and has had every console since.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:12 AM
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Never been on IncelTear or NotHowGirlsWork? Women also make fun of people who hate us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:49 AM
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I think for some of them it is still the belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:43 AM
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More like "some men want casual sex with as little effort as humanly possible, and others want a relationship so they won't be alone." And some want both, at different times in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:12 PM
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So a little like AWALT but for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:35 PM
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There's probably a survey or something. Or you could start one!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:16 PM
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A mere hug can do all of those things! If the hug is long, lingering, and close.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:11 PM
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I've even read comments supporting government funded prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:06 PM
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Sure they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:02 PM
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Your headline implies they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:00 PM
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You know, both kinds of men exist - the ones advocating for free sex AND the ones hoping for a greater chance and ability to get a relationship so they won't be alone. And both types can and do frequent PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:59 PM
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It's a first date, so a hug seems appropriate. It's a coffee shop, not a love hotel. Edit: Not saying that a kiss would be completely out of line, depending.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:52 PM
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Not a swinger but have been to a few of the parties. They are generally (but not always) wives (or girlfriends), not escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:49 PM
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I don't think it's as common these days as it used to be, when marriage and children were the expectation rather than an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:11 PM
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It's not insane or hard to navigate. I thought OP walked the line pretty well with the hug, as I mentioned. I want a partner who is interested in me and with whom I have chemistry. But, I don't want to be a pump and dump. What's so difficult to understand about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:03 PM
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It depends on the date, and it depends on the guy. If there is no touching at all, I'm going to assume that we have no chemistry. If he is too touchy - as in too sexual - I'm going to assume he just wants to get laid. Which if that is all I want too, would not necessarily be a bad thing... I think the hug was a good way to start and end a first date, for the record.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:24 PM
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My mother is a Scorpio. She is terrifying. Fiercely loyal, very loving, and hilarious, but terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:33 PM
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I'm married to a man who does not think I'm inferior or a child, so you probably do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:05 PM
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I would be single in such a world, since I will not date or commit to a man who thinks I'm inferior or that I'm the oldest child in the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:53 PM
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Um yeah, they are into that sort of thing. My kid has been playing video games since she was 4. She's in her late 20s now and has had all the video game consoles. She's not just into the aesthetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:50 PM
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Are they? They seem to be prevalent around here. The Comicons are always packed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:47 PM
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Not if you date women who are into that sort of thing. My daughter and her friends are all into that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:26 PM
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Enjoy your syphilis, I guess.
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/23 03:19 PM
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True! Purple Possum for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:09 PM
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She sounds a little superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:07 PM
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They are not disadvantaged by their N count, or their lack of one. There are all kinds of men out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:03 PM
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I don’t get your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:36 PM
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It’s not selfish, it’s healthy. Obviously you need to prioritize your relationships too, but not to your own detriment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:33 PM
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I wouldn’t, and I haven’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:14 PM
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Brunch is my favorite meal of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:14 PM
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Not being selfish per se, but prioritizing themselves yes. Women should also do this. Works wonders.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:13 PM
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A little vanity is a good thing. You should want to look and appear your best.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:10 PM
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Not usually. There is one of our friends who is more likely than the others to pick up the tab, but his family owns that particular bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:00 PM
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Well that is alarming. Did someone send him a Reddit care package?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 07:37 PM
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If you are fortunate and have good taste you can introduce your partner to good music and it will stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 07:36 PM
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https://youtu.be/9PnXcP8ZI7M
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 07:16 PM
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No, I am saying that a man who would lose his head for a 19 year old insta model and behave like the doormat the way you describe would be a little pathetic and he is welcome to pursue her instead of me, but she probably won’t respect him any more than I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 07:14 PM
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Oh, I do love older stuff. Led Zeppelin. The Beatles. The Doors. 80s music too. Just... not Christopher Cross.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:57 PM
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Boobs are awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:55 PM
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If he's having unprotected sex with others, I would prefer the condom, thank you. If there is no sex nor desire for any, then we should both go our own ways. I'm good with 50/50 or taking turns. I don't want a man leveraging what he pays for sex. I'm not a hooker. And I would frankly find him a little pathetic if he was spending a bunch of money on a woman who won't even have sex with him (see bullet 2). I also think Valentine's Day is commercial bullshit. I'm not a 15 year old girl. I would not…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:54 PM
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Neither am I, but that is how my relationship works.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:48 PM
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That's Styx and I'm ashamed that I know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:41 PM
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As the wife of a Mexican immigrant, I also end up listening to a lot of Vicente Fernandez and such. I would prefer that to the Christopher Cross.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:39 PM
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I'm unwillingly listening to 80s easy listening music (think Air Supply) right now, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:36 PM
1

I like boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:36 PM
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If I had sex with every man who wanted it, it would be a full time job with overtime. No thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:34 PM
1

Adele looked good after losing weight. Unlike my aforementioned example of Rebel Wilson.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:33 PM
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Maybe she honestly doesn't think she looks as good skinny. I feel like that about Rebel Wilson. I'm happy for her, but I think she looked better chubby. And I'm not jealous of Rebel Wilson (well, maybe of her money). I just found her attractive chubby and now I don't. And I say this as a bi woman, not a straight one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:31 PM
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What did he do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:30 PM
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I hate golf, but I love my husband. I *tolerate* him playing golf and watching golf, because he likes it, but I will never adapt to liking golf, because golf is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:29 PM
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You don't need to be feminine. Just compatible. Like if you love video game, don't try to date someone who hates video games. If you like hunting, don't date a vegan. And so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:28 PM
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I almost never watch porn but when I do it's generally girls with big boobs. I don't really care that much about the guy. I'm bi with a preference for men, but not when it comes to porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:26 PM
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I've never heard "fappernick" but it's amusing. I may steal it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:24 PM
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One of the things they never warn you about age gap relationships is that there will be jockeying for position over control over the musical selection. My beloved is currently listening to Christopher Cross. Just why.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:23 PM
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Whenever I go to pool parties it's married people with kids and none of them are particularly gym rats.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:18 PM
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I do have a dog! But I also have a husband. He loves me and he puts up with a lot of my quirks that are probably annoying. He would probably not do so if I crossed certain boundaries, like cheating on him or sending nudes to other men. So I do not do those things. Well, I would not send nudes in any case, but you get the gist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:27 PM
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No, men do not love women unconditionally either. As the last few days of PPD have proven, men do not even want to be friends with women they can't have sex with, let alone love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:58 PM
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Unconditional love does not exist unless you're a child or a dog. My adult child I would say I love unconditionally, but would I love her unconditionally if she was abusive or stole from me? Probably not as much. Which is not to say that I agree that love must necessarily be transactional either. Rather it should be reciprocal. You should both be holding up your ends of the relationship. I want my husband to help me keep our lil family chugging along. A one sided relationship would not be stable…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:52 PM
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I don’t find that to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:17 PM
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The Roma also sell underage girls into marriage so I'm not sure I would support a lot of their wedding traditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:07 PM
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I said I would not rule out misogyny in a person who has seen prostitutes, yes. I also said they were not automatically misogynists either. What is it I should make more clear? I’m not trying to be confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:35 AM
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I didn’t say they were more misogynist. Go back and read what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:27 AM
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Because some men who visit prostitutes are in fact misogynist. But that doesn’t mean every man who visits prostitutes is misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:23 AM
7

Why would you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:19 AM
39

It wouldn’t automatically make you one but it wouldn’t rule you out either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:11 AM
1

There are some here who would say that Ciara was a 4 or something equally silly, so I wanted to clarify.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:01 AM
1

Forgiven him for what? I thought it was funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:50 AM
2

Could you get Ciara?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:43 AM
2

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:37 AM
2

It went on for 8 more years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:27 AM
1

No, it means she’ll peruse maybe a few profiles at a time and pick one of those. Most of them will be average.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:25 PM
1

That's an interesting story. Did she know him? When I get random messages from men I don't know I delete them. Sometimes on Reddit I'll entertain conversing with them if I'm bored enough, but I would not go so far as to share personal details, photos, or meet them. There are a couple of PPD dudes that I sometimes chat with though, they are very nice, and not at all disrespectful to a middle aged married lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:24 PM
3

No they don't. They just don't rate them as "attractive."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:11 PM
5

I was talking about the abstract, conceptual you. Not you, specifically. Any man who only wants to be friends with women to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:42 PM
4

I can only speak for myself. I don't think OLD is the best way to meet people because you have no idea what they look like in real time and what interacting with them in person will be like. But I gave it a whirl. I looked for the ones with similar hobbies and interests. Dismissed the ones that had shirtless photos, flashy sportscars, or looked like media influencers. Rejected the ones that looked too old, too young, or too fake. If he was too attractive, he was obviously a scammer. Weeded out a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:35 PM
1

Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:27 PM
7

I don't need yours. I have plenty of other friends, even male ones, who don't demand sex as tribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:20 PM
6

She only needs one good partner or a few temporary ones. 75% of participants on online dating are male. She can't entertain all of them. She'd have to quit her day job to even find the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:19 PM
2

PPD men are strange about social media and seem to think the only reason a woman would have it is to look for men. It's important to refute that paranoid stereotype whenever possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:09 PM
2

Hard to say, really. Maybe she doesn't think he is compatible with her? Maybe he's holding a beer and she doesn't drink? Maybe he's holding a fish he just caught but she is a vegetarian? Maybe he's smoking a cig and she doesn't smoke?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:07 PM
1

I use "husband" and "partner" interchangeably. Pre-marriage, boyfriend just seemed like a childish way for a 40+ year old woman to describe her 50+ year old paramour, so I didn't use it much. I have have a lot of friends and huge, tumultuous, widespread family. I'm on the West Coast. my mother is on the East Coast. My sister is in Europe. Not to mention all the cousins and aunts and uncles. Social media is a convenient, centralized place for me to communicate with them, and for us to communicate…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:49 PM
1

Probably because men are mostly looking for sex and women are looking for something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:43 PM
3

There wasn't one. If a man who I think is above my league approaches me, I will be skeptical of his motives. I will assume he wants an easy lay. If that's all I want too, then no harm, no foul. But I am not going to fool myself into believing that he's ever going to commit to me, and since commitment is the goal of many women, that would rule our Chad friend here out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:38 PM
4

The average man is already attractive to the average woman. Most people are not delusional about their league and will gravitate toward who they think is achievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:16 PM
1

You don’t want to bat your eyes at men like that, they will think it’s flirting. But I have absolutely lost attraction to men for creepy behavior, steering conversations into gross directions, and for trying to touch me before I was ready to be touched.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:11 PM
1

Chemo and surgery. I could not be with him for all of it due to Covid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:08 PM
1

Sure. Also long haired skinny musicians.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:06 PM
1

Thank you! I’m happy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:00 PM
1

My husband went through a period of ED during cancer treatment. Of course I didn’t leave him. We did other things, when he was feeling up to it. He’s in remission now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:55 PM
8

I would not date someone who demanded I delete my social media. I want a partner, not a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:51 PM
-3

By wanting to be friends with them but not wanting to have sex with them, apparently that counts as abuse these days. In my day it was just called platonic friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:49 PM
2

And you’re not entitled to sex from women who you pretended to be friends with to try to get sex from.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:45 PM
2

Yes! We should start one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:38 PM
1

Even the medical reasons, there can be work arounds to achieve physical intimacy if not actual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:37 PM
1

I wouldn’t want that as my norm but I enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:31 PM
1

Sounds like a traumatic experience all around. I kinda don’t blame her for being shook by it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:30 PM
1

They should sell sex toys too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:08 PM
2

Those aren’t my favorite types of books but i would check it out!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:57 PM
1

No, I just don’t find football players to be attractive. I’m allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:47 PM
1

I can’t date everyone. There’s only so much of me to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:41 PM
2

Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:40 PM
8

Husband just got a promotion at work! Well, technically he won’t be promoted till September, but they informed him of his upcoming new role.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:30 PM
2

Good luck to you and your family on everything. You’re a good son.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:28 PM
1

I dated the chess club president AND the D&D club president.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:26 PM
1

Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:25 PM
2

That is commendable that you would be willing to do that. My dad would be difficult to live with beyond just his health problems due to addiction issues and hoarding tendencies. But I hope your dad comes around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:23 PM
1

I most certainly have not been shitting upon unattractive men at all. You seem hung up upon them though. I only mentioned your self esteem because every single comment you have made has referenced unattractive men, as if there are not countless other reasons to reject someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:18 PM
2

I won’t do it because I have long standing relationships with these people based on mutual respect. I am married. They are married. You want me to threaten multiple marriages and my friendships to prove an internet point and I do not care enough to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:14 PM
2

One of my dad’s best friends just died and he is bereft. He’s elderly and wheelchair bound and doesn’t get out much these days and it’s clear he is pretty lonely. I see him a few times a week but he doesn’t live close enough for me to see him every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:10 PM
1

What is your name? What is your quest? What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:08 PM
1

How are we supposed to stay virgins while also giving them the sex they demand on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:05 PM
3

You’re not supposed to enjoy sex, but you’re supposed to have it on the first date or he will think you are not attracted enough, but you should also be a virgin, but also be willing to have anal or he will think you are not in love with him. Does that make sense? (No, no it doesn’t!)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:04 PM
3

I don’t think that’s true. Just looking at my dad I can tell it isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:01 PM
1

But what mistake did you not make as a teenager?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:58 PM
1

Oh I had the trench coat!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:57 PM
1

Where do I shit on unattractive men? Unconventional looking men are my bread and butter for dating, more so than Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:46 PM
1

Husband’s 5’8”. He’s definitely not fat and not ugly though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:38 PM
1

Were you at the wedding too, or just saying that because you love him and find him that attractive? (Either is fine!)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:36 PM
4

Your entire focus is unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:33 PM
1

Entrance to my sacred ladygarden requires reciprocation not transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:32 PM
3

I’m always a little perturbed when they talk about wanting “the power” and “the upper hand” in dating. I’m not thinking about how to get as many men as possible either. I’m never thinking about that. I’m generally more thinking how can I get that one guy I like, to like me back. And as a married person it’s now that I have him how can I keep him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:31 PM
2

Sign me up for brunch! Maybe if churches offered bottomless mimosas they would really have something to draw in the masses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:27 PM
2

I’m an atheist and a skeptic and I don’t believe in religion or astrology or any of the spiritual woo woo stuff, but I still enjoy learning about it and I know my sun sign and all that. Those appear to be my people IRL - the loosely affiliated spiritualists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:06 PM
1

No, no it isn’t what women believe these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:02 PM
2

So you only want to talk about ugly men and not any of the other reasons why a woman would not be interested in someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:49 PM
3

Sure it is. That is what creepiness entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:39 PM
2

Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:38 PM
5

Do I want to know what CNC is?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:24 PM
8

Is it shit talking if it’s true though?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:07 PM
7

I didn’t get pregnant!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:06 PM
7

Well, despite your insistence that women not be allowed to talk to each other about men, we still do so. If this sort of thing happens often enough with a particular guy that it gets talked about, you can recognize a pattern with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:58 PM
7

Yeah, I think they probably are aiming at every woman who gives them the time of day, and then stomping off angrily when those women aren’t interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:52 PM
1

Speaking for cute nerdy girls, no, we don’t want the quarterback. We’re probably interested in the Yearbook Club captain or chess club president. Or maybe they was just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:50 PM
7

Personally I like the bookish and intellectual types. That describes most of the men I’ve dated. My husband is more athletic but he is also into books and had more books than furniture when I met him. And there are a lot of women who prefer these types over the loud obnoxious types. You are probably trying to date the cheerleaders and Stacies and sorority girls and club thots, so you haven’t noticed the quiet girls dating the quiet boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:47 PM
8

You mean they give a shit about the possibility of fucking, not about the girl they are trying to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:38 PM
8

It does not apply only to unattractive men. It applies to men who behave in an offputting manner, get sexual too fast, invade a woman’s body space, touch her without her consent, ask way too personal questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:37 PM
4

I don’t know about dehumanizing, but he is definitely acting like an entitled putz if he can’t have friendships with women that do not involve sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:33 PM
2

That has happened exactly never. But once I was walking with an actual boyfriend and a dog suddenly started barking behind a fence and bf got scared and jumped behind me, effectively putting me between himself and perceived danger. I didn’t lose attraction for him but I never let him live it down either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:31 PM
4

I wouldn’t call a work colleague names, what the heck is wrong with you? Do you think I want to get fired?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:23 PM
1

🤷‍♀️ My mama taught me you can’t rely on anybody to pay for you and your kids except yourself. As long as my partner can cover his own share of the bills, I’m good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:34 AM
40

If this has ever happened to me, I haven’t noticed. I have a lot of platonic male friends. If a man did let slip that he didn’t want to be my friend because sex is off the table, I probably would not much want to be his friend either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:27 AM
1

You are welcome to tell people they are hideous if you like. I likely will continue not being needlessly cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:49 PM
1

I can name quite a few, going all the way back to the 80s, but not this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:09 PM
3

Telling people they are ugly is rude and uncalled for, that's why people tend not to do that. Telling someone you are not attracted to them in a romantic fashion should suffice without being offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:08 PM
5

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:05 PM
1

I understand how that can be! Good luck with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:53 PM
3

I don't think some "alpha males" know the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:51 PM
-1

Sure you do. It would be stupid not to. That's what this sub kind of is, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:51 PM
7

I do not want a healthy alpha male. I imagine anybody who describes himself as such as beating his own chest like a gorilla.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:47 PM
1

All that and I still don't know who the fuck he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:43 PM
1

I didn't know her well enough or long enough to get a full background but you do have to wonder where her parents were in all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:20 PM
1

She was in HS. He was not. So I did consider her groomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:06 PM
0

So 2/3 of women do not do that, but let's not let that get in the way of the rage hard on for women around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:04 PM
1

It's presumed that if someone is interested in you, they find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:59 PM
4

I'm not going to fuck a guy just because he likes me. I have to like him too. And I am going to need a little time to figure out if he likes me and if I like him. But the often part, I have down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:04 PM
1

I was talking about men here on PPD. They give terrible and conflicting advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:59 PM
2

In most healthy marriages, his money and her money combine to make our money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:57 PM
2

Men's advice is a weird mobius strip of "don't have sex because men don't like sluts" and "have sex with men right away so he knows you're attracted". Who can even make sense of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:39 PM
2

Nobody gives a shit about your resources. We don't want men to think they have a chance if we aren't interested in them. Some women (and I've been guilty of this) don't want to hurt your feelings though and won't tell you straight up that your looks are why they aren't into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:36 PM
1

I'm married to a man who makes less, but I certainly wasn't desperate. But my mom was the breadwinner when I was growing up so I guess I'm just used to that dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:24 PM
1

I met one, once, that I was aware of. Her boyfriend got her into it when she was still in high school. She was still very young when I met her. I thought it was sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:22 PM
1

Good kissing turns me on, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:17 PM
1

Do you ever represent hookers in your line of work? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:16 PM
1

It definitely does. It's not only attractive, it's a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:13 PM
1

He does have to be able to do all those things and he also needs to be attractive to her. That last bit is the part men hate to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:12 PM
3

That's true, and I'll have to keep it in mind when reading some of their posts and comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:10 PM
1

For mine, he's taller. That's about it. I guess he's more extroverted than me as well, but I have a wider social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:09 PM
1

I've heard good things about microneedling for acne scars. My rosacea calmed down when I stopped using soap, found the right cleanser and a good moisturizer that doesn't break me out. Anyway good luck. Yeah, a lot of that stuff is just snake oil, but the right combo of products can make a difference in your skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:08 PM
1

Nice! Looking forward to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:05 PM
3

Oh, I've seen it. A cancer diagnosis will do a number on a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:03 PM
5

My best friends in the world are 4 guys I went to school with from 6th grade on. I can't imagine my life without them, and surely they must find our friendship of value too or they wouldn't have stayed my friend for 40 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:01 PM
6

Sure he did. "men simply are choosing loneliness over doing free labor for women." "A lot of women feel awfully entitled to male company, friendship and protection, even without those men getting anything back". So he thinks being friends with women equals doing free labor, and he thinks you should, what, reciprocate with sex if a friend does something nice for you? I don't know about you but I don't reward my friends with sex. I reciprocate their gestures of friendships with my gestures of frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:54 PM
1

You could always just date and LTR women with jobs. Then you won't be as pressured to be a provider, because she already provides for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:49 PM
11

He also said that having friends is just providing free labor, so I'm not sure he understands friendships in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:38 PM
2

I have a lot of male friends and no, they aren't expected to do anything in particular for me. They do sometimes do things for me, but it's not an expectation and I do things for them as well, such as babysitting their kids or feeding their cat while they are away. I'm sorry you think having friends is humiliating and dehumanizing though. Most of us rather enjoy having friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:30 PM
1

That's the one! Huh, his father's name was Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:22 PM
8

No, but I get attached pretty easily when dating. On the other hand, my husband was not supposed to be a long term prospect. I didn't reject him, exactly, but I also maintained my independence from our situationship. Only went to see him on weekends, never let him come to my house (because my daughter still lived at mine), declined to move in with him for the first 4 years. It was not intended to make him chase me. The intention was not to get too involved while my kid still lived at home. But h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:20 PM
1

Just that autism wasn't as widespread in the 70s and 80s as it is now. Certainly it existed, but it wasn't as common a diagnosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:09 PM
1

I think I vaguely remember that story!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:59 PM
1

I certainly would not pay that much for dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:59 PM
2

SIGH. *I* have a daughter. She is in her 20s, and was a legal adult before I met my husband. My husband has no children. We have none together, and will not be having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:56 PM
1

And here I’ve spent the last 30 years with a day job like a sucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:00 AM
3

I don’t recall threatening you, but I do have a daughter. I don’t give a shit about her N count but she’s only had one boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:59 AM
2

You’ll get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:39 AM
5

Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:35 AM
3

I work from home and he works nights. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:35 AM
3

He could always go the yachting route. Lots of models and minor celebs do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:34 AM
1

I know how much my husband makes because I am the one who does our taxes. It’s less than I make.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:09 AM
6

My husband and I live together, are married, and will not be having children. Also I outearn him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:06 AM
8

Me neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:56 AM
19

Seems like a waste of money if you are allegedly this big time rapper. You should have groupies! I guess he’s not that big of a time rapper.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:49 AM
2

It may be a younger generation thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:41 AM
4

Thank you! I would have missed this crazy community too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:40 AM
7

Not the sneks!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:54 AM
4

I’m not high enough for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:52 AM
2

Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:50 AM
1

If I’m not already there please send to me too
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 12:15 AM
1

PPD was not an incel sub and did not allow incel content. But for the record, either IT has not noticed or does not care that PPD is gone.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 11:50 PM
1

Ooh, who? I always miss the good stuff.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 11:45 PM
2

I am bereft.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 11:38 PM
2

Hello, fellow refugee.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 11:33 PM
1

I did at one point but that might have been under a different user name.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 11:30 PM
2

I had signed off to go swimming and when I came back it was just gone!
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 11:29 PM
1

I know!
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 11:27 PM
1

Good point.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 11:23 PM
2

Here, I guess?
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 11:23 PM
1

Sob!
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 11:21 PM
27

Most women won't even know you are autistic unless you tell them so. To the untrained eye, you might just seem weird or socially awkward. So I'm not sure "ableist" quite fits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 08:28 PM
1

Harry Styles has worn some effeminate things and women still swoon. I watched Post Malone do an entire Nirvana set during early Covid wearing a floral frock. Edit: What Post Malone doing an entire Nirvana set during early Covid wearing a floral frock might look like: https://www.youtube.com/live/f7eaGcIyhPU?feature=share
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:20 PM
1

My dad was/is a hippy and is pretty damned liberal, but he's definitely from another era. The racism and sexism of his formative years certainly left residual evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:17 PM
1

I love a man who votes, but not one who votes conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:15 PM
0

So fewer men will reproduce? Probably for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:14 PM
3

Just SpongebobMaxx, bro! Although I think he looks more like Sideshow Bob.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:07 PM
2

I'd rather date a simp than a polygamist any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:05 PM
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We ARE called trash for absolutely no reason (sluts, whores, whatever your particular term of endearment is for women who will not fuck you), many women did voluntarily stay to fight in Ukraine (most of the rest of us don't live there), and 99% of those "100s of options" on OLD want to hit it and quit it, which is not what most women are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:55 PM
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They claim to be, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:38 PM
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Original take. We don't. We're the ones who end up doing all the drudgery, childcare, and elder care, which is not life on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:33 PM
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Women can't get justice, in most cases. There are backlogs of rape kits collecting dust. If women can't get justice, why would men find it any easier? But maybe, again, law enforcement and juries and judges will be more sympathetic to a raped man over a raped woman. I doubt it, but society never fails to disappoint me so it could be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:32 PM
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And how they insist that should not matter for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:27 PM
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As a political junkie myself, being active in politics can help you meet some people, many of whom would be sexually viable. But the struggling dudes tend to select their political opinions on what is the most offensive, rather than what young women would actually be into, which probably stands in their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:09 PM
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It says to treat them like the only teenager in the house, so yeah, it does say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:07 PM
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When will the PPD men who claim to be TP start taking charge and leadership of their lives, instead of just whining about how women's standards are too high and OLD has ruined dating? I do look forward to that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:05 PM
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Defining rape between two adults is already tricky when a woman is raped. Most cases are not even tried, and even fewer are convicted. I'm sorry to say that men likely won't find it much easier. But who knows - maybe law enforcement will be more likely to believe men when they don't believe women. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:54 PM
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Aren’t 75% of dating profiles male? Leaving 25% of them female, but probably even less than that because of scammers. Of course women are going to be more selective, there are more men to select from.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:10 AM
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I’m part of reality already. When guys say “women want men better than them” it makes me roll my eyes, because who wants to date someone who thinks he is better than the person he is dating? It’s narcissistic, that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:06 AM
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I would think they would be hurt or upset to ever learn that their partner only dated them because she had to lower her standards, but oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:41 AM
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They would not get pregnant in the first place, except for biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:32 AM
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Biology is why you need those choices in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:24 AM
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In particular in statutory rape case with the father being the underage parent, yes. I would agree. Defining rape between two adults may get a little trickier, but if it did happen and he can prove it, it make sense to waive his responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:07 AM
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Okay so if he was raped he is off the hook for child support but if they both entered into a sexual situation willingly, knowing that pregnancy is always a risk, he still should have to pay, yea? Sounds good to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:45 AM
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It’s a dumb take. You are sacrificing your freedom from an unwanted pregnancy and unwanted children for the opportunity to stick it to women. But yeah, okay. Have fun in family court.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:31 AM
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Women do not give a shit about that. No women ever thinks “I want a man better than me.” She thinks “I want a man worthy of me”, or “I’d love a man who is as great as my dad” or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:13 AM
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Yes, she needs some time to herself and they will also need some time alone as a couple sans kids. Those little buggers are adorable but they sure complicate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:10 AM
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She should do the majority of the housework, but he should pitch in when he can, or he should be on kid duty so she can focus on the chores for a bit. He helped make them, after all, so he should probably spend some time with them and get to know them. Be a good model of positive male behavior to them. Or at the very least, don’t neglect them so they wind up in therapy later.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:11 AM
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Men can and often do wear makeup, actually. Guy liner is hot and edgy. No, I don’t think that women OR men are dating people “worse than them.” What does that even mean? Better looking? Richer? Smarter? A more compassionate human being (probably not, this sub is pretty superficial). What if she’s the smart one and he’s the pretty one? Or he has more money but she is the more compassionate one? They’d even each other out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:58 AM
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I personally reserve the term love bombing for its use as manipulation and things of that nature. But sure, it’s not a bad thing for a couple to be overly affectionate. As long as they keep their clothes on in public (and even that is okay as long as you are discreet and careful).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:49 AM
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Someone who puts effort into their appearance is more attractive than someone who does not, yeah. That’s always been the case. But average women do not generally reject men who are 6 foot and make 6 figures, A man who is 6 foot and 6 figures is doing something wrong if someone still does not want to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:03 AM
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Yes, some people do that. Some couples do that. But that is not usually what therapists and domestic violence counselors and mental health professionals mean when they talk about love bombing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:56 PM
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They are likable and women like them. They show up at the parties and things and genuinely are friends with the women. Since they are already vetted, the women who are into hookups will hook up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:54 PM
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Love bombing can be very manipulative. And it's not the same thing as just being loving or affectionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 09:36 PM
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You probably can't comprehend it because you are a woman, but a woman looks different before you have sex with her compared to after. Her words start getting more annoying too, and she smells worse. Seems to imply that men feel that way and women don't get it. Yeah, it does make men seem untrustworthy when you're told that if you have sex with him he's going to start finding you annoying and smelly. Who wants to deal with all that? And no, we do not love men that we do not trust. The last man I …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 09:33 PM
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Younger people in general are more attractive than older folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:52 PM
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They aren't hideous, but I would not necessarily call them easy on the eyes either. One of them is probably 50 lbs overweight and balding, a little on the pasty side, and not particularly tall. But he is funny, intelligent and can switch easily from being a flirtatious charmer to being a thoughtful, interesting dude. I like him very much, and so do a lot of other women. (And yes, I have.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:56 PM
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Most of the guys I know are not model tier. They just know how to interact with women and do so frequently. And it's not that they are "nice." Nice is bland. Nice is forgettable. It's more that they fit in with our social circle, are fun to hang out with, and genuinely like us and would spend time with us with or without the promise of sex. They aren't looking to get laid, necessarily, but they invariably do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:33 PM
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Some probably are, sure. I've found though that a lot of the men who do well with women sexually also do well with them socially. They are not only attracted to women, but genuinely like women as people outside of just the sexual aspect. So they are welcome at parties and gatherings and social events, giving them access to more women and since the vetting is built in, they're the guys that get to go home with the cutest girls that night.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:33 PM
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I don't know where you live but I see average and even below average looking couples all the time. But I live in a more redneck area rather than a hip cool city. No, the men are not all 6 foot and buff. They can be 5'9" and chubby, or 5'7" and chubby, and wobble around Walmart with their 5'3" and chubby girlfriends or wives. They aren't rich. They aren't well dressed. They are not above average in attractiveness. Sorry. It's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:24 PM
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That’s what women prefer to do! But then you have PPD men saying if you don’t have sex on the first date you’re not attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:18 PM
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We don’t, actually, but you seem to be implying that no man can be trusted. How misandrist of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:13 PM
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Then what you are telling me is that you should not have sex with men because they can’t be trusted? I have not found that to be the case, but I’ll pass on the advice to the single gals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:32 AM
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Don’t get me wrong. Normal mother/son closeness is awesome. Mothers are great. And MILs are usually great caretakers for your kids when you want a date night, when you reach that point in your life. I get along great with my ex-MIL. My only negative experiences with a partner’s mother were more with someone else who had a weird relationship with his mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:30 AM
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Let your mother in law move in with you for a year and a half and tell me how that goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:15 AM
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Why would I bother? I’m 52, not 18. My husband knows my count and does not care, and his is much higher anyway. The time to lie about your sex life is when you are ashamed to have one. I’m not. It’s a healthy, enjoyable activity and I engage it in as often as I am able.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:13 AM
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Yeah, there is too close. If you are constantly appeasing your mother to the detriment of your relationship, that’s too close.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:44 AM
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Virtue signaling alert! It often is intentional, of course. Sure some men change their mind after subpar sex, but most of them were just after the subpar sex in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:42 AM
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I understand that calling someone a liar is easier for some people than to have their own biases challenged and actually having to consider someone else’s perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:39 AM
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No, I just don’t parrot your own perceptions of women back to you. Some PPD men do confuse that with lying, but it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:28 AM
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…drinking…marinara? Wat? But the imagery of a marinara volcano out of your nose is horrifically delightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:14 AM
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Being a little too close to his mom can be a valid ick. You want him to love and respect his mother, but you don’t want him to have Oedipal tendencies. Absent any weird sex things, you also don’t want him letting his mother commandeer your life as a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:11 AM
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He’s hypothetical so he can be rich and attractive or he can be the hottest dude in the trailer park. Schroedinger’s Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:03 AM
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No, it just shows that some men will cheat and lie or lie by omission to get laid. The other woman doesn’t know he has a wife/girlfriend after all, because he did not bother to tell her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:35 AM
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I don’t even know who I would ask these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:48 AM
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I used to love E.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:39 AM
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It gives me the ick but they are both legal adults so what do I know? My husband’s first wife was 9 years older but he was 30 so I don’t think it could be called grooming by that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:08 AM
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Either can be demeaning and degrading, depending on your experience with it. I’ve had relationships that ended disastrously and left me a hot mess for a bit. I have only ever had one bad casual experience, and that was because the guy was also having sex with 2 other people in my friends group that I did not know about. One of the girls was cool about it and understood that I simply didn’t know. The other one kind of lost her head a bit and tried to get revenge by sleeping with my ex-husband, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:01 AM
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Women not having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:30 AM
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Yes, it's why women decide to wait to have sex with a new partner. And guess what? Men hate that too! If you don't have sex with him in a bathroom stall within 5 minutes of meeting him, then you aren't attracted and he's just a beta bucks, I believe is how PPD men like to put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:02 AM
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I don't think many women will refuse to fuck a man because he is rich. But a lot of women will refuse to fuck a man just because he's rich. Attraction for women really isn't about how much money you have, it's about the connection you have. But if she's feeling a vibe and he just wants to hit it and quit it, some men will pretend to have that connection, get the sex, and then ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:47 PM
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She fucked him because he presented himself as something he is not and pretended to care about her. She is having 2nd thoughts because he is a liar and can't be trusted, not because he isn't rich. And it doesn't matter if she is having 2nd thoughts anyway, because he pumped and dumped her, remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:40 PM
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Being too into a woman *can* give her the ick, but if she's already into you it can can seal the deal. Lovebombing can also convince a different woman that you are totally into her and want a relationship (but you actually don't).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:30 PM
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Not really. If a man lies and deceives women to get laid, the fault lies with him as the liar, not on the woman who was deceived and lied to. Mind you, if she finds herself being deceived or lied to on a frequent basis, she needs to consider some things about herself. But he's still the asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:36 PM
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I'm not sure it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:46 PM
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I think for some PPD users, the discourse is helpful because it is a neutral place to discuss how men and women approach dating and to get the perspective of the other gender. And others are just here to fling poop at each other, which is definitely not helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:45 PM
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Because for some people sex is very intimate and something they only want to share within a relationship. If they care enough about you to have sex with you, that is meaningful to them. It sucks that it is not meaningful for the other person, but you live and you learn and that is why many women do not have sex right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:43 PM
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I'm in agreement. Neither gender are saints and we are all sinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:42 PM
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TIL I am a married man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:40 PM
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That's true, lying to make themselves look higher level than they actually are is not uncommon. Or leaving out other important details, like your arrest record.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:29 PM
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They were tricked though, since they would not have had the sex if the man in question had been upfront that he didn't want anything serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:50 PM
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Rape, stalking, murder. Edit: And those things can be a danger whether you are actually dating that man or not, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:41 PM
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Generally by lovebombing and making a woman feel that they are really into her, instead of just really into the prospect of sex with a new flavor of the week. Men who already have girlfriends or wives will also sometimes conveniently leave out that tiny detail in order to get the sex they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:35 PM
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It's certainly one component, though not the only component.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:00 PM
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I'd probably feel the same as you, but I also know that he wouldn't leave me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:32 PM
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Why would a man that is 10x more sexually valuable than you, stay with you if you become even less valuable? Uhhh, because they love each other? Everything isn't measured out in SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:30 PM
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That doesn't matter, plenty of men are more than happy to reserve their violent sides for the women they date or are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:11 PM
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Men's attention is more threatening to women than women's attention is to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:09 PM
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Sounds like you've both been through a lot. I hope your health is doing well now, and I'm happy for you that your spouse supported you through a rough time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:56 PM
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I disagree. Having been the caretaker of a spouse with cancer, it’s not easy to handle. I don’t blame anyone, man or woman, for not going into a relationship knowing that the burden will be on them. It’s different though when you’re already married. That’s the person you swore to love in sickness and in health. That you built a live with, maybe have kids with. I don’t know, it just seems selfish to me to bail when things get a little difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:01 PM
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I said I’ve never had trouble, not that I never felt troubled. I am not even sure what you mean by “felt troubled.” And I’m married. Not seeking ONS, though I have had a couple of them. And what is this bullshit about lack of integrity and disrespect among women and grandchildren? Were you drunk, or high, when you started spinning this scenario in your head?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:11 PM
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What even is the point of amateur porn. Nobody wants to watch ugly people have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:12 AM
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It IS dishonest. At least own it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:11 AM
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So date men. Nobody will judge you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:27 AM
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No, I’ve never had trouble getting commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:26 AM
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