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| 2 | Why is relationship a womans job?Again this is just denying what is inherent to human interactions. You do not randomly fall in love. You won’t fall in love with a man who is homeless anymore than I would randomly fall in love with a woman I don’t find attractive. It’s transactional because both partners need to be satisfied by a quality that you possess. It’s rational because that’s literally how most of society actually functions anyway. Romance is not random. It’s not a unique allocated person who randomly pops up in your li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 12:51 PM |
| 4 | Why is relationship a womans job?I am willing to bet all the money I have that your partner made enough money for you to consider him in the first place. And I bet who your partner is, is a person with high/higher income than you. You will never admit to that but his financial background was a key factor. Love is just economics. we fool ourselves but we love people who can be positive benefits for us. We love people of the same class, of the same educational background etc etc. it’s not random at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 10:18 PM |
| 5 | Why is relationship a womans job?Ur so close to getting it. Love is transactional and rational. A woman who loves you just means you already passed her financial requirements. Women famously do not like broke men lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 09:59 PM |
| 7 | Why is relationship a womans job?I hate to break it to u big dawg but all woman care about money. prime athletes have zero difficulty getting models, even the ugly athletes lol. the only question is how much do they care about it as a percentage but most women probably base 40% of your "package" value on ur money. if ur tall, handsome, rich and kind then we are cooking at like a near 100% package value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 09:41 PM |
| 5 | Why is relationship a womans job?when a woman thinks she is better than her partner she just leaves. like that is literally the advice women give to other women lol. "omg dump his ass u can do so much better" on repeat lmao. so yeah on a psychological level women need to somehow believe the man they are dating is much better than them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 09:28 PM |
| 5 | Continuing a “Friendship” with a woman is not a good idea.yh kinda crazy that a lot of women are framing this as some sort "you don't see women as people" vibe. bro the limerence stage is crazy it will create a weird strong emotional bond to someone who only sees you as a friend. why the hell would you be comfortable watching the person you love sleep with other people, especially after rejecting you?? this would hurt everyone, men and women, straight and gay!! like I get that the other party is not at fault, but its still a sucky situation for sure lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Continuing a “Friendship” with a woman is not a good idea.yes I agree, I would say men should not engage in friendship with women they find attractive at all and just frame your advance as one straight away. Don't try the friendship route its weird for everyone and does not work. Also don't rely on women holding your hand and terminating the friendship for you. Just do it yourself and get on with it, and learn your lesson. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming.just wanted to come back to this because I actually saw a statistic that I thought was hilarious. the number of relationships where the woman is the primary breadwinner and the man is a stay at home dad is generally rounded to 0% of the population loool. genuinely in tears. https://preview.redd.it/zh0jnmijc9fh1.png?width=1506&format=png&auto=webp&s=056fa7452035c8bd952251139fdce13cc09a0a07 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 10:56 PM |
| 2 | Passport broing is unfairly demonizedoverall that is a benefit though. her quality of life standards has shot through the roof, and he has found a woman that is happy with their relationship. or she could remain poor, and he could remain single and frustrated. passport bros should be a feminist's ideal solution. you're getting rid of men you don't like basically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 06:48 PM |
| 3 | Passport broing is unfairly demonizedyes but your life now is too comfortable that you need a very high income to impress you whilst you still maintain that he needs to impress you financially; a catch 22. he can either get frustrated with that impossible dynamic or go elsewhere | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.your argument falls flat in that there is discrimination goes on. you cannot say "ew short men" and then say "but I have treated them kindly". other women know there is a value attachment here, and they are just as less likely not to approach short men simply because you said "ew short men". so there is penalisation even if you are claiming preferences exist outside the norms. the other issue still exists in that you are still cherrypicking these things. if men were to go back and force "low bod… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 04:09 PM |
| 2 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.if you abolish the standards that restrict you, whilst maintaining the ones that restrict me, that is hypocritical. when fat women say the way men behave in dating and in the corporate world is fat phobic, that is exclusion and ostracisation. there is a standard that is being applied to them, and if they do not fit, they are ostracised out of these spaces. I mean men can say it is just preferences, but there is definitely an element of punishment that goes far beyond preference. its the same dyn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 03:30 PM |
| 3 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.no. you are playing the "I should be free to not conform to my ideals, while punishing you for not conforming to yours" this is just hypocritical and you are simply chancing. you are causing harm thats the whole issue lol. you are excluding people who do not conform to traditional roles whilst arguing that you do not need to conform to your traditional roles. progressive opinion should be "I hate gender norms because they are restrictive and therefore I am against gender norms for both women & m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 03:11 PM |
| 2 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.we are so close my friend haha. I have to be honest though you completely lost me with the workplace analogy. I have no idea what you are saying anymore. The boss (woman) in this case has said do not be racist in an interview or I will not hire you. your friend goes into the interview and is racist. he gets hired. you go into the same interview, are not racist, and do not get hired. the boss in this case is being a little disingenuous. racism is not a real factor for your hiring and there was no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 03:06 PM |
| 2 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.literally for thousands of years its "high born, high status, wealthy men" get women. if you read Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice it starts off with "Mr Darcy has an inheritance of 10k british pounds and he is now looking for a wife, so they arrange a ball for him" if you read Ovid's Ars Amatoria, it is a manual written from the perspective of a wealthy, eligible Roman man on how to attract and win a wife/mistress, with the underlying assumption that women (and their families) are angling to c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:56 PM |
| 2 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.yes it is literally this simple lol. you cannot just cherry pick gender norms and be called progressive. you're just an opportunist otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:45 PM |
| 2 | Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming.many is doing insane heavy lifting lol. maybe like 1:1000 theyre really not interested in stay at home guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:40 PM |
| 3 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.I agree with most of this dude, but u are still wrong on why red pill exists lol. "People said I shouldn't make racist remarks in a job interview, but I still didn't get a job! Clearly making racist remarks doesn't make a difference!" no see this is why I'm sure you are not getting it. its more like "if you make racist remarks you won't get hired" and then your friend goes in, makes a very racist remark, and still gets hired. you go in, do everything right in an interview, and you still do not g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:37 PM |
| 2 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.so you do not punish men who are short in the dating market, independent of anything else? I mean we can both play the game. Red pill says men only want women who are thin. You have to be thin. liberal means individuals can have preferences but it's not prescriptive that women need to be thin. this is just word salad. the dating market will reflect that men are more interested in thin women by like a crazy factor of 1000 or something. sure we can play word games but again, using the word prefere… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:46 PM |
| 2 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.you picked one part of red pill theory which is evidently garbage. again that is not why TRP exists and has some level of popularity. "to demand that women defend men's indiscriminate swiping while simultaneously demonozing them for being selective." it's also insane that this is your issue with TRP hahaha. this is just a subset of dating which is online. TRP would posit that online dating itself is useless, and that indiscriminate swiping is the only way of trying to succeed. I mean you can go … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:39 PM |
| 6 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.it just so happens to be that your preferences are basically the exact same list TRP have lol. great semantics. calling gender norms "preferences" is not a clever way of avoiding the obvious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:09 PM |
| 1 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.yeah its ridiculous. if u did not ascribe to conservative beauty standards borne out of social gender norms of a conservative era, height would be as relevant as mean circumference of head. but it is not lol, and it is a remnant of conservative beauty standards. also you hate traditional "female" roles. you still think men should approach you, be confident, have high paying jobs with status, be tall etc. but you don't like the idea of being held to a female standard that includes homemaking and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:06 PM |
| 7 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.they want to keep the dating preferences that exist from a traditional conservative world in their favour while simultaneously try and push men to choose more liberal preferences via exclusionary models. what's insane is that they would still pick some of "the worst men on earth per the liberal model" just because he fulfils their conservative criteria. Then they get weirded out that men believe there is a conservative criteria and it's the only criteria that actually matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:06 AM |
| 4 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.women hate the red pill theory, everyone knows this. its not exactly news. but what the red pill purports to do is that it gives you the fundamental truth about women's behaviours in the dating market and how to deal with that. some of it is definitely defeatist attitudes for sure. but the reason why red pill theory is popular is because a lot of women also do not engage in good faith with dating issues. if we truly followed red pill all the time, and did not give ourselves some delusion and hop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:02 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Many men are genuinely intimidated by successful women because it disrupts traditional relationship dynamics.Honestly, a lot of answers to this thread but one thing I haven't seen mentioned is that women do genuinely value you less if you do not have a typical provider role. It will be something they deny in words but evident in behaviour. You get into an argument with this "high powered career woman" once and she's calling you a filthy bum in 16 different languages. They definitely see you as less than, in ways you would only pick up if you had experience with other women. These women like to talk a b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:31 AM |
| 8 | Older men don't understand how undesirable they are to younger womenok let me rephrase then. you and your friends are being had lol. this is an arrangement, and a song and dance as old as time. the fact you don't understand it is insane and you should probably stop dating older men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:17 AM |
| 3 | Older men don't understand how undesirable they are to younger womentbf I think both you and him have missed the point. typical "old men, young women" relationships are neither here nor there. they are both aware what is happening is not real love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:13 AM |
| 2 | Older men don't understand how undesirable they are to younger womena dead bedroom is definitely not how these "old guy, young women" typically work. old guy, young woman is a transactional relationship in which both sides know their role and what they "bring to the table". Young women probably work hard to maintain a balance between the benefits she receives or the "sugar" and actually just how much time she has to spend with the old guy, but there is no chance there is a "dead bedroom" in these relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:11 AM |
| 9 | Older men don't understand how undesirable they are to younger womenI think you are being had lol. they are not shocked. they are limit testing you. if you ask for nails and they act shocked, you won't exactly ask for a car now. you will just keep asking for nails, believing thats their limit. their limit is when they leave you, which is highly unlikely because they benefit heavily from this arrangement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:07 AM |
| 50 | Older men don't understand how undesirable they are to younger womenyeah I think you misunderstand older men lol. they know they aint handsome and they know their status is the reason why youre there. they are enjoying the benefit their status brings. Besides, especially for rich old men, the chances are, whoever youre with is probably going to hate you. Donald Trump's first wife hates him, and so does the second and third. DJT isnt too worried about melania's body language because she's still there and she is much hotter than anyone his age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:09 PM |
| – | Why specifically would you dislike the blackpill going mainstream? It's getting more popular.there were no rejected men in the past though, in the way we think of rejection today. arranged marriages could easily happen, and if one family refused, another would be delighted. they were not based on the woman not fancying the guy at all. now if a guy is rejected once, he is likely to be rejected over and over, because the source of his rejection is women themselves who probably do not like him for any number of reasons. the rejection is chronic, and probably has no way of resolving on its … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:02 PM |
| – | Why specifically would you dislike the blackpill going mainstream? It's getting more popular.im not even disagreeing with you, im just saying we are having this particular problem for likely the first time in human history. there will be an outcome for this change, but right now we have no idea what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 09:58 PM |
| – | It is the government’s job to fix the male loneliness issueunfortunately, whether you believe it to be their job or not, I suspect governments around the world will push for such a crazy backsliding on feminist rights in the next 50 years because that is cheaper than doing whatever you're proposing to do. sexist societies do 2 things very well; have a lot of children cheaply, keep the men tinkering on, which for like 70% of countries outside of the global north, are important policy objectives. I dont think we will see sports programmes or free mental h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 09:50 PM |
| – | Why specifically would you dislike the blackpill going mainstream? It's getting more popular.whilst I am not a black piller at all, this is like insanely false. men have never been rejected to this level before in history. pretty much every society prior to our modern one had men playing at such an advantage that even those who were not necessarily of high class/birth/status would be able to get married etc. this is the first time in history where men have been rejected to this level, and the data supports this lol. Gen Z men on average is the least sexually active generation of like th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 09:41 PM |
| – | Why specifically would you dislike the blackpill going mainstream? It's getting more popular.yes thats the issue with all these pills is they probably contain kernels of truth within them. they are not entirely fantasies as your looks will impact you in life in so many ways. its hard to dismiss that, probably better to reframe it as whilst that may be true, you can still put your best foot forward and try other things that may compensate for your looks which can work. the issue is that people do not engage with the cruz of the problem in this way, and they dismiss it out of hand, leadin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 09:36 PM |
| 3 | In liberation, wouldn't women end up with more cultural power on the macro level than men?feels like his actual question title has nothing to do with the main body lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 09:32 PM |
| 3 | If you have to use Money or Status to attract a Women she just doesnt like you that much.fairs you know. a real classist, now that's something I can get behind lol haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 04:23 AM |
| 0 | “Pair bonding™️” feels like a self-serving male fantasy about how men wished women attached to menalpha fucks, beta bucks. means women will sleep with men they find attractive for very little in return, but only get with average guys if they have the money for her (i..e safe, normal, good paying job etc) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 03:23 AM |
| 3 | If you have to use Money or Status to attract a Women she just doesnt like you that much.if thats true then bum losers can also interact with you positively? so why have you ruled out bum losers lol? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 03:18 AM |
| 0 | Mongolia shows that traditional masculinity and relatively high gender equality can coexist.tbf not many people argue for the removal of masculinity, not least of all women, who definitely prefer masculinity to other forms. the issue is that, at least for Mongolia, they have set the norms and it's stable. neither women nor men would probably be very successful in upsetting the general vibe/culture. For us, the norms are not stable, and they are very much up for negotiation. we are in the negotiation phase, but the new norms being introduced tend to only benefit women. the old ones that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 08:30 PM |
| – | If you were born male, do you think you'd be doing better than other men in areas that you criticize men for?wtf are u talking about dude im crying | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Question for men: How many women did you approach in 2026?26, 20+ forgot to count lol. dating websites do not count for me around 50% hard rejection on the spot 25% is a soft rejection "oh sorry I'm busy maybe some other time" 2 vocal "ew". Very tough to bounce from but its more their problem than mine lol. 3 early (less than 2 month) relationships that did not go anywhere about 5 ish dates in total. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 07:29 PM |
| – | If you were born male, do you think you'd be doing better than other men in areas that you criticize men for?bro you would suck ass as a dude lmaooo. genuinely life will body slam you like a motherfucker if you think its "if I am kind and hardworking, it will work out for me" lmaoooo. its not true for women and its not true for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGive had this discussion with another person on this exact thread earlier lol. I do not necessarily disagree, but I think that you have chosen sex as a "personal super private information" not in arbitrary manner. if your partner was arrested for drug smuggling in 2015, it was still be socially required of him to disclose that info even he has already paid the time etc because relationships are built on foundational honesty. you do not want to reveal sexual info precisely because you are worried … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 06:38 PM |
| 1 | If you were born male, do you think you'd be doing better than other men in areas that you criticize men for?hate to burst your bubble big dawg but sex is gonna come into the picture at some point in relationships lol. just having a load of women friends is not success either lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGyeah but you kind of just choose which situations suit you, which I've shown using hyperbole that they are not consistent. you're either honest or you're not. choosing situations also benefit me fyi, they're just not great foundations for a relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 06:14 PM |
| 1 | If you were born male, do you think you'd be doing better than other men in areas that you criticize men for?bro I do everything you said including career lol and I can assure you the grass is not greener on the other side haha. I think I am kind, optimistic etc just as personality traits though not for the sole purpose of attracting women lol. I still find it difficult lol but I think maybe ive just been unlucky lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGI am choosing hyperbolic examples because they make the situation clearer. it is actually necessary to disclose this type of info out of respect to your partner and their context. asymmetric information is unjust in a loving relationship. obviously if you do not actually like your partner then yeah you can tell them whatever you like lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGhmm would you really not be upset that your partner tried prostate simulation with someone else but not you? like no part of your mind fills in the blanks for you. he doesn't want to do it because he feels it's special between him and someone else? he doesn't want to do it because he doesn't want to try and put more effort into the bedroom with you, you're his solid watch tv relationship with, not his crazy good sex relationship. I know I'm projecting but I am giving you why some might not feel … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 09:16 AM |
| 1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGI mean we do agree on the fundamentals but im just wary that this approach does a lot more harm than good. I think it is much better for you to tell your future partners that, yes you slept with x and tried multiple things, some of which you didn't like and your current opinion on your own sexuality. its much better than the alternative, which is me, either intentionally or not, omitting key information that may be of importance to you. I am a bit prude so I actually don't want to talk about ana… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 08:48 AM |
| 1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGHow?? how well can you know me if I do not tell you I slept with your sister!!! at what point is it my responsibility to tell and not you guessing it through my manners or behaviour?? I think a major part of not disclosing your sexual life seriously is because you are worried about being judged. but in that case that is precisely what you want. you want the person to be compatible and the only way you can do that is if you tell them. if you tell them and they are not happy, then u were not meant… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 08:10 AM |
| 1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGYESSS YOU ARE SO CLOSE TO AGREEING WITH ME HAHAH. My whole point is that you cannot actually decide whether dump him or stay with him UNLESS you receive that information in the first place. This is why we have a social and romantic duty to be upfront about who we are as people when talking about relationships. your approach gives a LOOOT of agency to the partner in a relationship with asymmetric information. They decide IF they tell, WHO they tell (maybe I tell your best friend that I, in fact a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 07:59 AM |
| 1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGusing your corporate example since I lost track of who in your family I slept with hahah, assume I fucked everyone in your office, ranging from important to not important. how would you want me to disclose this information. honey btw everyone in your office? yeah I slept with. (that would mean by default I have to disclose every relationship ive had, even the non important ones. say the lady who makes the coffee, and it was a one off fling and it was not important. I would effectively disclose h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 07:51 AM |
| 1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGhaha I feel like we are having multiple discussions here but you do raise good points. however, I feel the main hang up we have is the duty of candour/disclosure which to you is very consequential. your version of candour in relationships is magically based on information you already have, which I am arguing that you would not have that information unless I was forthcoming with you in the first place because of my duty of candour. take your example of the cooking/skin condition. there are two wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 07:38 AM |
| 1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGFair enough but the example was intended to be outrageous to underscore the point that what is not important to me can be very important to you. I do not care about your dad, I may have not even enjoyed the sex in this case lol. he may have been entirely underwhelming and I have completely forgotten him. I meet you, and we have a whirlwind romance, you introduce me to ur dad and now I have a choice to make. either tell you or withhold that info. now sure its obvious to the average person what to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 07:28 AM |
| 1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGYou've changed the situation to one you do not care about, which changes the whole crux of my argument. I particularly chose dad to land the fact that I may not find your dad important in my life, but he is important to you. What I decide is important to disclose can be incomplete and therefore deceptive to you. you do not know how many or their names because you do not care. but if your boyfriend slept with your best friend it is important to disclose that information suddenly? Why do I have th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 07:15 AM |
| 1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGIf you found out your partner used to cook and clean for his ex, but now seems much more 50/50 about the roles, and does not extend that privilege to you, you would feel hurt about it regardless of how that information came about. I agree that it should not exist in a public forum, but there is a reason why people feel this way about changing relationship boundaries. if they are concerned about your number of partners, then yes for sure you guys are not compatible. that is my entire point, I don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 07:10 AM |
| 1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGYes but now I have all the agency in the world to either tell you or not tell you that I slept with your best friend and decide whether it is important enough to affect future future relationships. Your reaction to it is only retrospective of my conscious decision to withhold that info from you. You sleeping with 100x men does affect the future of our relationship in the same way I slept with your best friend does. You don't get to decide if it's important or not. the only thing that is importan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 07:05 AM |
| -1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGyes in a committed relationship is a fair enough position to be forthcoming about previous relationships. I wouldn't expect you to be fully forthcoming on a first date. I think my issue with the second paragraph is that another woman has just commented it is "not anyones business what my sexual history is"; implying that even if I was conservative, I would not have the decency of the truth. This is deception surely, and not justified in the slightest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 06:45 AM |
| -1 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGbut again this is just a position you have chosen to be moral in your favour. I can say a number of things that would sound great in principle: "Your partner is not entitled to your financial history" "Your partner is not entitled to your job history" But if we are talking seriously and you decline to mention that you were imprisoned in 2015 and you used to work as a drug mule, then you are effectively lying and is not a great start to a relationship. It does not matter how serious or unserious … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 06:41 AM |
| -3 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGbut this is just a position you have chosen, its not actually consistent with what a lie is. selective omission of the truth is lying. if we are talking, and you deliberately choose to conceal sexual history then I would feel lied to. if we are at an early stage and you offer "oh just a few flings" is fine. if we are serious and that's still your answer, you are lying. sexual history is an important part of every relationship; a bit weird that you get to frame what is right and wrong however it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 05:55 AM |
| -2 | Women won't tolerate a male version of AWDTSGso if asked about your sexual history, and you did not give an honest answer, that does not count as lying to you? and if it truly does not matter, why would you not give the truthful answer straight away? no interest in engaging with OP's line of thought, but your position seems inconsistent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 05:41 AM |
| 1 | What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience?but again that is not true and not what happened and is happening. feminism did not fight for freedom of preferences alone. Feminism explicitly fought for women to be able to challenge gender norms and structurally change dating/marriage norms. You've conflated preferences to gender norms which we've debated for a while now; they are not the same thing. men traditionally had preferences for meek, docile women who would bear children and take care of household labour duties. Feminism explicitly r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 05:33 AM |
| 1 | What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience?I mean I make it pretty clear that the date is just an example of structural gaps in gender norms as the original question was. You can swap out date with the military and we would have the same discussion. Also if you continue reading the discussion I had with someone else, you are basically living proof how men would be ostracised if they aimed to change gender norms that are harmful to them. a) you've called me a weirdo and b) you've externalised the cost of changing gender norms so only I pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 08:11 PM |
| 2 | What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience?I thought feminism was the belief that your value is more than your gender. and if thats true then man's value to a woman should not depend on how well he performs masculinity. He can be valuable through genuine partnership; intellectual compatibility, emotional honesty, shared commitment, mutual respect. Those things don't require him to be traditionally masculine, and they don't require him to perform femininity either. They require him to be present and genuine. The issue with your framing is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 08:09 PM |
| 2 | What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience?I disagree. I appreciate the freedom to choose, but you're describing a system by feminists where: Women were told they could opt out of femininity and still be valued as people (which is true and good). Men are told they can opt out of masculinity and still be valued as people (which is also true) But then, and this is the part that creates the asymmetry, women are not being asked to examine whether their attraction to masculinity should change in light of feminist principles, while men are imp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 06:32 PM |
| 2 | What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience?im ngl the last bit made me laugh fair enough. I think you misread the crux of my argument though. I do not care about paying for the date haha but I will continue using it as an example. You are right that we both perform gender all the time, including in dates. However, feminism has done a lot to fight for the permissibility of opting out of gender performance for women. "I don't have to perform femininity for male approval" is a coherent feminist belief. Feminists have decided some gender rol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 05:26 PM |
| 1 | What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience?I like your take on this and I agree with a lot of it. I do have a few gripes though. "'Feminism did good work in the past but there is more that still needs to be done' is a perfectly coherent opinion that doesn't take an anti-feminist stance. In fact, it's a stance many feminists hold." Okay with the first half, not happy with the second. I don't believe feminists will actually move away from a rational "maximising women's benefit" approach to including men for a long time. So the "more that n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 09:17 PM |
| 2 | Women will never be stuck alone.what are they doing then enlighten me lol. I stand by the fact handsome men's lives are a loooooot closer to the average man than a beautiful woman is to the average woman. bro I know women in my life who got married to oil barons. not one handsome dude ik has been successfully retired by a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 07:04 PM |
| 5 | Women will never be stuck alone.yeah by other dudes. women are not flying out men brochacho no chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 07:02 PM |
| – | Women will never be stuck alone.lol its also why you see handsome men having to continue working but beautiful women really do not lol. I have never seen a handsome man get flown out lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 06:57 PM |
| 4 | What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience?Yes but you are the one with the political ideology and the belief that things must change. Remember the status quo is fine with me. 1950's version of me doesn't mind paying for the date because I would be the one with financial leverage. Now we both work, and I am confused why I have to pay dates every time. You want me to do your job for you (argue for feminism), and you want me to take on all the cost of doing so in the meantime. That's why feminism is the boogyman for a lot of men. It just s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 06:37 PM |
| 5 | What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience?yes but it needs to be feminists who do it. who are not going to do it. because it benefits you still. if I do it, I gain nothing from it. not a single woman will choose to pay on a date. not one lol. and I will now be called all sorts of slurs. so yes I lose. its clear that its not important to you, and other feminists at large, so why would I risk "enduring discomfort" which can go so far as job loss, harassment etc. and if feminism really was about equality for all, then it should be somethin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 06:14 PM |
| 10 | What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience?No because if I argue I will lose still haha. I will just get called brokie. anonymous debates on reddit will not move no needle in the real world we both know that. also feminists do not care about this at all they believe it is trivial and will always compare it to something more egregious like domestic abuse rates. so it will just be me saying hey we should split the bill; I get clowned for being a brokie, no woman is convinced she actually needs to do this, and feminists will argue there are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 04:43 PM |
| 10 | What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience?because as is, feminism has not actually set out the case for men to find it beneficial too. We do not like the old gender roles because YOU don't like the old gender roles, not because they were detrimental to us. That's fine. Yeah the old gender roles were terrible to women; we can agree on that. But the new gender roles add absolutely nothing of value to men and are actually very costly if you attempt to crystallise it. And the cost is entirely borne on men who are willing to go for it. now y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 03:53 PM |
| -7 | What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience?so what you have said so far is you got on the "last chopper out of Nam" and you are confused why anyone would have a different opinion to you lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 11:56 AM |
| 1 | Men have no sympathy towards womenthis "argument" is very weak. I mean substitute man into black man or any race you like and you see why it doesn't work out. it's punishing based on an unchangeable characteristic. No one is saying that you do not have valid reasons, but it is frustrating that it is applied to everyone equally as it feels like a) women are still unhappy at the current state of affairs and b) men are also unhappy at the current state of affairs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 11:29 AM |
| 1 | If women cannot be at peace with being the more sexually valuable gender, heterosexual dating can't become better.True however the correlation youre making doesn't make sense. you're suggesting that because women experience sexual harassment, that then translates to higher dislike of men. however, the older the cohorts get the higher the approval rate for men get. women above the age of 50 have the highest approval rate of average men despite probably experiencing significantly worse sexual harassment in their time. also, they stratified them by working class and professional class. professional "middle cla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 11:52 PM |
| 1 | If women cannot be at peace with being the more sexually valuable gender, heterosexual dating can't become better.I can guess what you suggest men can do and it's going to be some mix of "more confidence and better grooming". every bit of data shows this is really not the issue hahaha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 11:39 PM |
| – | If women cannot be at peace with being the more sexually valuable gender, heterosexual dating can't become better.even if you 1:1 dating apps, the data still holds. majority of young women also generally do not like men lol so its not that useful a statement "Just 35 per cent of British women under the age of 25 hold a positive view of men, according to a new poll." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 11:37 PM |
| – | If women cannot be at peace with being the more sexually valuable gender, heterosexual dating can't become better."in the long run we are all dead." I work in economics and this is a quote by John Maynard Keynes. This was in response to another economist suggesting that in the long run things fix themselves so there is no need for intervention. This was in the 1930's at the height of a Great Depression. the reason why I type this up is that actually we are going to need an intervention of some type. as you said, it is not going to fix itself before it has very negative ramifications, and those ramifications… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 11:33 PM |
| 1 | Men Love Objectification, When it Benefits Themnot sure why thats the conclusion of this discussion but best of luck to you miss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 11:22 PM |
| – | If women cannot be at peace with being the more sexually valuable gender, heterosexual dating can't become better.haha I know, its hard to explain that this doesnt make sense on an individual level because obviously everyone deserves autonomy but at a large scale it does have really negative ramifications for everyone involved. and yes risk averse attitude towards dating is a negative factor even though the risk aversion is very helpful from a safety perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Men Love Objectification, When it Benefits Themand yet feminism absolutely demands that of you. either feminism is equality for all or I can also say I must continue to objectify women because for 1000's of years thats the only way to survive in a patriarchal society. your argument doesn't make sense. the whole point is to create a new fairer society. if your claim is that you cannot let go of the past, then why should I, especially since morally speaking they are of equal weight. how come I have to not objectify you, but you can objectify m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 11:18 PM |
| – | If women cannot be at peace with being the more sexually valuable gender, heterosexual dating can't become better.I mean both men and women probably have a ceiling in dating. I could not attract Anne Hathaway no matter how confident I am lol. I dont like using the word deserve because it's a weird moral additive here and it leads to all sorts of bad takes. I have not decreed what women deserve or not deserve, im just saying women are increasingly not interested in dating unless it's a standout option. there are not many standout options. you do the math. every dating app that releases its data shows this. a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 11:15 PM |
| 0 | Men Love Objectification, When it Benefits ThemI dont even understand how what you said relates to what I said lol. objectification did not start at banning women from personal finance. I mean yeah sexism started there but the modern discourse on objectification did not. it literally started like 10+ years ago where women said we do not like being desired solely for our looks. this is a hang up from a sexist patriarchal society. ok fine that is a correct interpretation, but then the majority of women did not stop objectifying men based on we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 11:10 PM |
| – | If women cannot be at peace with being the more sexually valuable gender, heterosexual dating can't become better.the problem I'd wager is that women are not even dating guys who are at their level or slightly better/worse. they're holding out for an insane catch, because they can and that is holding up the entire dating scene. if dating is seen as a market, (and it is in abstract terms), then men are buying/selling and women are also buying/selling. the market needs to clear to be optimal. women and men can just wait in perpetuity to try and "buy" a great catch but in response that means there is someone w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Men Love Objectification, When it Benefits ThemI know you are replying in jest to the other post but the history of objectification started off with women saying we do not want to be dissed solely for our looks, but we retain the right to desire men solely for their wallet. thats why the other post exists in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 10:52 PM |
| 0 | There are plenty of single and childless men who are just as happy as single and childless women, we just don’t see it advertised as muchridiculous. single men in our current generation absolutely get it a lot worse than single women do. ur called all sorts of slurs from creep/incel/weirdo etc which single women do not, even if you placed out of the dating scene for a while. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 10:48 PM |
| 11 | There are plenty of single and childless men who are just as happy as single and childless women, we just don’t see it advertised as muchyeah its not the same at all. also single men after like mid 20s get hit with a loooooooot of "guesses" why they are single and they are all bad, which do not compare to women who probably just get called "difficult" or something socially acceptable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 10:46 PM |
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