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Instigated-/r/ExRedPill01/07/26 10:16 AM
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I’m not going to watch a RP video. I sincerely doubt he had the relationship or people skills to communicate effectively, he likely asked unreasonable things and didn’t listen or empathise with her, and his story would have been biased. Perhaps look at parenting videos? Trying to get kids to do what you want when they don’t listen, but that yelling at them isn’t actually effective either. When you feel like you have to yell to get someone to take you “seriously” there is actually something else …
/r/ExRedPill24/07/26 05:21 AM
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Porn is clearly an influence because this stuff was not even a thought until it got spread by porn. Now tell me, when was the last time a teenager listened to parents and teachers telling them not to do something, let alone took advice about sex? While I have confidence my offspring isn’t going to run around non consensually choking other people, I clearly don’t have any influence over other people’s sprog. We do know that hardcore porn has an influence (there have been studies on it), as well a…
/r/ExRedPill23/07/26 04:00 PM
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How do you explain the increase in people choking people during sex? Parents, teachers, and non-fictional media are responsible for educating the public on how to have safe, consensual, satisfying sex and relationships. Are you claiming that parents, teachers and non fictional media are currently teaching people to choke (how else would they learn to do this?)?
/r/ExRedPill23/07/26 07:25 AM
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People have been in a car many times before they learn how to drive. Many things in life we watch as part of our learning experience. People do not see normal sex before they do it. So this makes them more influenced by what they have heard from their peers, seen on tv, and porn. Someone who is sensible and decent human being might be able to work out the difference, however since porn became as accessible as it is now, and hardcore, choking is an idea more people have been exposed to and consid…
/r/ExRedPill23/07/26 01:20 AM

No, you are using a fictional movie to suggest something is true in real life. You should check out the movie “Alien”. It proves there are aliens. And the storyline of Career Opportunities doesn’t really track with your argument anyway. Josie is born into a wealthy family, with an abusive father, steals some money and runs away; Jim screws up every job by goofing off, yet his father lines him up opportunity after opportunity (yes he is a teenager and it is a shitty minimum wage iob like most of …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:45 AM
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what is up with choking when there is no communication nor indication someone is into it? is that a generational thing from seeing too much porn? Yes and no. As I understand it choking has come from porn influence. Not my personal experience because I am of the generation before all of this, however young people today have grown up watching quite extreme porn and things like choking increasingly normalised even though it is extremely dangerous and is the opposite of providing safety, trust, and …
/r/ExRedPill22/07/26 06:20 AM

If that were true in real life, then women would be running the world wouldn’t they? All the CEOs, prime ministers, presidents would consist of beautiful women instead of decrepit old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:55 AM
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Get the fuck out of there. Controlling, unempatheic, dangerous. He choked you, during the first time you had sex, without getting your consent that you were ok with this, let alone checking if your enjoy it and feel safe. You asked if you could go on top, and his response was to put you in doggy. No care for your pleasure, desire, or sense of safety. The bar should not be “I didn’t necessarily dislike it”. The bar should be: did you feel safe, respected, and enjoy it? (It is ok if there is a con…
/r/ExRedPill22/07/26 04:29 AM
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manosphere has arisen due to the move away from “traditional values” (including marital values where women were property), without hegemonic masculinity changing much. Sorry but I don’t think you’re right, you’ve got cause and effect mixed up. Manosphere is actively rebuilding hegemonic masculinity as central to its ideology. It sounds like you are under the influence of RP. I say this as a middle age woman who has seen the progress that feminism and social change brought not just in women’s rig…
/r/ExRedPill22/07/26 01:31 AM
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Well “man”, I clearly disagree with people who are fixated on body count, which is a useless and immature thing to make a requirement for yourself or others. And I challenge BS “reasons” people make up to justify their belief about high/low body count. Like in this thread someone claiming that deadbedroom is caused by women who can’t orgasm because they are so insecure and inexperienced from not having a high enough “body count”. These are the words of someone making shit up, yet you seem to pre…
/r/ExRedPill21/07/26 05:11 AM
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“Dude”, I’m in a long term relationship of over 20yrs, most people I know are in long term relationships. We’ve been through the many stages of life and ups and downs in relationships and have a decent amount of perspective. In contrast the only people who get fixated on “body count” (whether considering it too high or too low) are immature minds who have little experience or understanding of long term relationships. They are the ones who need to get outside and touch grass.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/26 03:52 AM
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I don't think it is healthy to marry someone with low experience. You are all but guaranteeing they will eventually start to wonder if they are missing something. My perspective anyways. Nah, cheaters have heaps of experience, it doesn’t stop them from straying. And let’s not get started on the portion of the population who are serial divorcées. ALSO this is what causes dead bedrooms. Women with less experience often are the same women who never experience an orgasm. I actually think those women…
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 05:29 PM
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I think you’ve stumbled on the wrong sub. You need to take your trash talk to a RP sub, not an ex RP sub.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 04:56 PM
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Actually most women would rather not be accosted with dick pics, insults, and grubby comments - and that is why there are fewer women using the apps. Many women find it isn’t worth their time or mental health to deal with that shit.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 04:54 PM
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Have you come here just to argue? You seem to be going out of your way to miss the point. Obviously I had a much longer conversation and didn’t repeat it verbatim here on reddit. No we didn’t just talk about the apps. That was the entry point to the conversation. When men talk about “high value” and “low value” men and a 10 point scale they are not just talking about apps, they apply it to their entire world view - as did the man I was speaking to.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 04:50 PM
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These guys aren’t just talking about the apps, they think this is how attraction in the whole world works and that that their attractiveness is a number on a scale which means the odds are against them and they have little to no chance of forming a relationship. And that isn’t true. They also make the mistake of thinking women getting more interest makes it “easy” for women. They don’t understand the difference between quantity and quality and that a heap of “interest” that women receive is spam…
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 04:25 PM
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Perhaps you should go back to school when you don’t know what evidence is.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 04:05 PM
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Haven’t heard of/watched jubilee before. I’m a tail end gen x woman and only recently realised how manosphere has gone mainstream, which made me go look at it more to understand why and how. The trigger for me to learn more was I spoke to a young man (20s) who I would consider smart, personable, capable. I mentioned I’m glad I’m of the era who dated prior to apps because they just seem completely toxic. He then said it’s easy though for women, they get plenty of interest. But only men if they ar…
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 01:11 AM
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Women are having more sex and less children Less than whom or when? Where is your evidence? Like quality scientific research, not RP dogma.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 12:05 AM
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Yeah, the number is would be closer to 50/50 because that is the gender make up of the world. There are just as many female virgins and women not having sex as men, and absolutely no evidence to suggest otherwise. The argument that men get less sex while nonetheless using sex workers proves the 80/20 claim is RP BS and that men have avenues they can use if they are “sexually frustrated”. But RP men seem to think all women should be sex slaves. Why are you in this sub if you’re pushing RP ideolog…
/r/ExRedPill18/07/26 12:32 PM
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Instead of RP content, why not start looking at feminist content. See what women are saying about dating today. You’ll see a lot of women are not happy about the dating scene either. It is not just men who are unhappy. That adult men are having less sex,and more and more adult men remain virgins Less compared to when? Since the 1950s or 1990s… or …? I’m going to assume we are talking about western counties here, though there are cultural variances. The rate of sex in long term relationships hasn…
/r/ExRedPill18/07/26 02:31 AM
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He said that he discovered that if you ask a girl out they'll usually say yes. Confirming that when I (woman) was young, I said yes to a date with most guys who actually asked me out. Like you said, I would give a guy a shot as long as they seemed nice and safe (and I was available). There were also numerous confusing flirtations with friends who never explicitly asked me on a date, light flirtation, or possibly kissed or held hands at some point, but they never asked me out so I moved on. It wa…
/r/ExRedPill18/07/26 12:49 AM
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Men who don't give a shit about women are fucking them. Women are not passive objects that men can just fuck. guys who don't give a shit about women have no qualms with approaching, pushing boundaries, pressuring and not taking no for an answer with any and every woman he finds attractive. The word for that is rapist. Your argument is that women get more sex than men because they are all being raped? They'll just say the most sexual or explicit things to everyone until he finds some horny enough…
/r/ExRedPill18/07/26 12:27 AM
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the theory has always been that 80% of women are banging 20% of men, and while this is certainly not true, You know this is not true, so why repeat it? Virtually any woman can get dick However most women do not want “dick” and find the way RP men approach women just to get “pussy” as scary, dangerous, repulsive. Most women want a partner who is a good match and cares for them; if/when they have sex they want to do it with someone who is safe and cares about their pleasure - yet this is not what …
/r/ExRedPill18/07/26 12:10 AM
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It’s really great how you’ve over time been able to see through the BS into an healthier place. I would build on that some more. When you talk of charisma, social magnetism and “value”, it sounds like you’re still thinking there is a universal quality that you should cultivate that will then make you attractive to women. However every woman is different. What is attractive to one woman can be repulsive to another. Same as men have different preferences. Ultimately there is only one of you, you d…
/r/ExRedPill17/07/26 02:49 AM
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I feel like I'm a naturally quiet person. It is fine to be a naturally quiet person. You aren’t the only one. I'm so bad at group conversations. Or trying to insert myself into group conversations. You can get better at this over time. You can also notice patterns and find strategies that help. For example, in a group of oblivious extroverts I am likely going to be quiet because it is too competitive and feels like no one is listening, however in a group of introverts or people with very strong …
/r/ExRedPill17/07/26 02:04 AM
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Redpill and manosphere is just the modern misogyny movement that has spread by social media. When men start looking online for content about how to get fit, how to be a man, how to make money, how to get a girlfriend, they find content that at first glance seems to be about that stuff but is deeply rooted in misogyny . The algorithms then show them similar content that takes them further and further into extreme redpill content. If a boy or man viewing this doesn’t already have a strong healthy …
/r/ExRedPill17/07/26 01:44 AM
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Different women are into different things. Some women are into shy and awkward and some aren’t. The main impediment to being shy and awkward isn’t “attractiveness” it’s that if you don’t put yourself out there socially, meet people, talk to people, that you aren’t in a position to have opportunities to connect with someone. I was also shy and awkward, no doubt undiagnosed social anxiety, however pushed myself outside my comfort zone to be more social and develop my social skills. Within about 10…
/r/ExRedPill17/07/26 01:21 AM
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Yeah, the problem is he is treating relationships transactionally and seems unable to view women as people or be empathetic or understanding to consider their experience of things. The ghosting after 3 dates shows immaturity and lack of respect or care for fellow humans. A bit scorched earth, burning bridges. You can end in a respectful way. I mean, it might not be working right now, but you never know if a year later you both might be in a different place and if you ended it respectfully you co…
/r/ExRedPill14/07/26 07:35 AM
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1) Clearly Tom Leykis didn’t practice what he preached as he chose to get married 4 times. His opinion is biased because his marriages didn’t work out, but only 30-40% of first marriages end in divorce (the other 60-70% work out). People who have been married long term without divorce would clearly have a different opinion to Tom - they are building their life with a partner who they will grow old with. Tom has never experienced that so he doesn’t have a clue of the benefits. If your plan is to …
/r/ExRedPill14/07/26 06:45 AM
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Don’t know Tom Leykis. Perhaps if you post what his core beliefs and arguments were then we can debunk. However if your reason is that you want to help your relatives move away from believing him, debunking as a technique doesn’t tend to be effective. People are believing because they want to, regardless of evidence you put forth. They like the guy and feel loyal to him. You could instead say, ok you’ve followed his advice, and you’re still struggling with relationships, so maybe his advice wasn…
/r/ExRedPill14/07/26 03:55 AM
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It is confusing because it is something no one knows, they are just trying and working it out, and sometimes it is a hit and sometimes it is a miss. It can’t be taught or explained like a math equation. When you go out to bars, clubs, etc. For the next while maybe do it like an anthropologist and just sit/stand quietly and watch people as the evening unfolds. See who people arrive with, how they look at and engage with people inside and outside their initial grouping, can you tell by looking who…
/r/ExRedPill14/07/26 03:44 AM
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A couple things it sounds like you are getting wrong: wrong place and wrong mindset. Hot yoga is not a social group or community. Most people go to yoga for exercise, health, for personal well being - they are not going there to meet new people - so you’re potentially looking in the wrong spot. Hot yoga studios are businesses not a community. (Though I have seen a few people make friends at yoga studios, however when they have been going every day for years and also go to the retreats and full o…
/r/ExRedPill14/07/26 03:28 AM
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About half of adults are in relationships, so it is a bit crazy to whinge about it being too difficult and rejecting advice from people who are in relationships. The way you talk about it is as if you are hunting and need instant gratification. You sound impatient. And no doubt that comes across to others, that you are angling for something. If your spammy cold approach technique was working, you wouldn’t be coming here to post. You’d already be in a relationship, wouldn’t you? But it isn’t work…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/26 06:06 PM
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I’ll try one more time. When beggars approach you on the street when you are busy on your way somewhere, and they are all up in your face trying to get you to look at them and asking for money : how does that make you feel? Does it make you want to stop and give them your time and money? Or do you look away, rush away, and after having an unpleasant experience you are wary of beggars and avoid places they hang out, cross the road avoid walking past them? What about a busker who is doing their ow…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/26 05:23 PM
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It can be difficult for anyone to find “the one”, however you are missing the point. Cold approaches are low quality spamming. You are not being selective. Most women will not be responsive to this approach, they will be turned off, and the minority who do might respond not actually be a good match and perhaps only working because they are insecure vulnerable women. Women who might have otherwise been interested see that you are spamming and get turned off. This approach also poisons the well (i…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/26 04:54 PM
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Because cold approach and game are precursors of redpill and part of the toxic manosphere. They are ways of harassing women rather than treating women with respect and empathy. What is the point of “volume” when you are only 1 person? You only need to find one person who is a match. “Volume” tactics are quantity over quality, and poisoning the well while you are at it by making women feel more unsafe and wary.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/26 07:24 AM
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So what? What is it you want? To vent about it? The world isn’t fair or even playing field. This is true about wealth/poverty, class, ableism, intelligence, and many different factors. You just have to focus on what is in your control and find your people who like you for who you are.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/26 04:53 AM
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Examples? It gives a small bonus margin, however isn’t going to be across the board or excuse everything. For example there is some research recently following people who were obese who then took GLP-1 medication and lost a lot of weight. There was a massive difference for women in their ability to find a job and date once they were slimmer, but less of a difference for men. So clearly there is a significant penalty for fat women that doesn’t exist as much for men or skinny women. https://www.bu…
/r/ExRedPill12/07/26 03:41 AM
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It is totally up to you, there is no “right” or “wrong”. Obviously you have to protect yourself as a top priority. Did you ever feel negatively impacted by him, and if you didn’t know he was “no-simp” would it be an issue? Now you know that he is “no-simp” do you realise there were redflags you ignored, that he was pushing something you were oblivious to? It’s not your job to fix him. As you used to be redpill yourself, it is possible he might change, however that has to be on him. If you feel c…
/r/ExRedPill12/07/26 03:25 AM
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Further to the irony, his self hatred meant he believed no woman would be interested in who he was, so he changed his personality to attract the kind of women who would want someone else (who he was pretending to be), rather than trying to find a woman who would value him for who he truly was. Even when “popular” (by his claim) with women, he still had no one who would really want to be with him.
/r/ExRedPill11/07/26 12:29 AM
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It’s good you’ve found your way out. There is little point dwelling too much on the past mistakes, as you can’t change them. You have learned your lesson. Your focus now should be on the present and future, which is redpill free. If you said or did something to hurt someone you could reach out and apologise. You may be able to mend those friendships now you are no longer in redpill. However even if they do not want that, you may feel better for having apologised, and it may bring some closure so…
/r/ExRedPill11/07/26 12:17 AM
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Is his family conservative Catholic? As he has spent this time with family and mentioned religion and not wanting to go out drinking or have sex it sounds more like they are having an influence on him than necessarily redpill. Probably questioning him on his relationship and if it aligns to their values etc.
/r/ExRedPill09/07/26 09:22 PM
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There is one specific redpill argument I strongly disagree with Only one thing? It’s all rubbish. My criticism is that a lot of the manosphere uses this ambiguity whenever it suits the argument. I agree. Manosphere is also not concerned by contradictions, lies, misinformation or fantastical claims. When they want to portray the average man as desperate, “option” means almost any form of female access. But when they want to devalue male faithfulness, “option” suddenly seems to mean an abundance o…
/r/ExRedPill09/07/26 01:25 AM
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The way you are explaining things men should be mind readers at all times to accomodate women. Not at all. I merely pointed out that there are no “universal standards” for men or women, we all have to work things out, in all areas of relationships and life. It isn’t a hardship just endured by men and dating. Social skills are heavily reliant on all of us trying to understand one another. Empathy, listening, not “mind reading”. I find it weird how you think men's whole existence should revolve ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:59 PM
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Why don't women have to accomodate how men feel tho? What do you mean? How is your comment relevant to anything I wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:20 PM
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Yeah, I didn’t say men can’t do invisible or emotional labor, we just know statistically there is a gender gap there. Some men are very good and absolutely reciprocate, or may even be better than some women at it. However a lot of men aren’t doing their share of it. Do you really think all these redpill guys are doing their bit? Being “stoic” is often the opposite of showing emotional IQ, especially in how it is idealised in the manosphere. A man pretending he doesn’t feel anything, or repressin…
/r/ExRedPill07/07/26 06:34 AM
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Start filling your mind with good thoughts. Learn about happiness and well-being and start doing the things that will make you feel better. https://online.yale.edu/courses/science-well-being The Science of Well-Being | Yale Online Watch documentaries or read popular psychology self help books about how the mind works, happiness, self esteem. Be kinder to yourself, be a friend to yourself (you wouldn’t say these nasty things to a friend, would you?). What advice would you give a friend in the sam…
/r/ExRedPill07/07/26 05:18 AM
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It’s not your responsibility. However if you want to maintain friendship can you do things with him that aren’t political or opinionated? Maybe activities instead of discussion? Sport, woodworking, gardening, cooking, odd jobs, make homebrew beer, hiking, etc. Visit art gallery or museum? See live music. Some autistic people get a bit fixated on an interest, and it seems he is doing this in all the wrong places without any critical thinking skills. What is a wholesome interest you could encourag…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/26 05:08 PM
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Sorry for weird formatting. I had issues posting my response so copy pasted my draft into a text editor, and then pasted it back. But also now can’t edit it for some reason.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/26 07:25 AM
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Feminism The premise of feminism was always equality. For women to have the same rights and opportunities in life as men. Look at history to see the full horror of what life was like without feminism. As society has progressed the discussion has at times progressed to consider “inequity” rather than just “inequality”. - Equality means we all get the same thing: we get identical “one size fits all” t-shirts that don’t fit either of us very well - Equity means we have our needs equally met: we bot…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/26 07:20 AM

Some of redpill beliefs have jumped into mainstream, however it is a spectrum how much has crossed over. For example, a lot of young men are now believing there is some kind of 1-10 attraction ranking system, which means the odds are against them. However that doesn’t mean the more misogynistic behaviour has tainted them all. And plenty of guys are smart enough to work out redpill is BS and have very healthy relationships. The guy you’re dating now is obviously inexperienced and playing games. N…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/26 04:42 AM
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I agree. Forget the “incel” bit and find communities orientated around the thing you are interested in. r/Dating r/incelExit Look for local niche speed dating, singles events, or social groups that cater to introverts or interests.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 04:56 PM
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More rare for bachelorette parties to have/see a stripper compared to bachelor parties. I’d also say in the cases that women see a stripper it is more tame, like the Chippendales. Besides opinions look for evidence. Do a search in your local area for male strippers versus female strippers, and who local strip clubs are catering to. That is a clear indicator of the market. (Though also noting some male strippers would be catering to gay men).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:31 AM
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My argument is about incentives and perception, not frequency. Sure, however someone who “perceives” something that is irrational can’t expect others to agree with their perception. Someone who has OCD and has to flick the light switch 9 times before leaving the room to avoid the sense that something bad will happen, will not have others support their belief. And they have a choice if they want to be controlled by an irrational perception or will seek treatment to change their perception. We wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:24 AM
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The problem is that the line isn't always obvious. What one person considers an appropriate place to start a conversation, another may see as intrusive. I agree there is no universal standard and this makes things tricky at times. However that is universal for men and woman and not just about dating, any social interactions have grey space. At the moment you’re so hung up about the approach you don’t seem to realise that forming and maintaining a relationship with any person, but especially an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:54 AM
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The behavior is almost identical, yet you're deciding whether the man is virtuous or pathetic based entirely on the motive you assign to him. So we are giving him the benefit of the doubt, in assuming he gave space to her out of consideration? And that is a problem? If I am a woman walking alone on a dark quiet street and am aware of a man walking behind me… and he slows down or crosses the street to give me space… me and my body can relax regardless of his motives. If the only reason you are go…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:30 AM
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Your two examples do not contradict, they are on different topics. men have nothing to worry about when it comes to false allegations. Here your concern is for male protection against a perceived threat of false allegations made by women. This is statistically very unlikely. What percentage of men have been falsely accused? Negligible. When a man is falsely accused what are the consequences? Not much. I mean we live in a world where even guilty men who have done terrible things often have very f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:03 AM
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The scenario given of a male psychiatrist falling in love with a patient is called malpractice. The difference in this scenario is a woman performing her job professionally, while the man is not. Men and women both have choices in how they conduct themselves. If it would be inappropriate for us to be in a romantic relationship with someone, we can avoid developing feelings for them either by not entertaining that as a possibility or by removing ourselves from the situation. If a psychiatrist fin…
/r/ExRedPill02/07/26 11:42 PM
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I repeat, why is a woman telling you that she has a boyfriend an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:11 PM
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Well you must be doing something wrong. I’ve had countless conversations with men, in appropriate circumstances, and the only way I would ever have possibly felt the need to pointedly say “umm, I have a boyfriend” is if the guy had fumbled it. Rather than approaching to make friends and get to know me, he made me feel uncomfortable. However is a woman telling you she has a boyfriend so terrible?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:04 PM

Certainly it depends on whether you’re talking about people in committed relationships or casual hookups, and which study you reference. This is the study that says it is 65% https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28213723/ Differences in Orgasm Frequency Among Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Heterosexual Men and Women in a U.S. National Sample - PubMed In one study of college students only 10% orgasm during casual hookups compared to 68% in committed relationships. “Both men and women reported that men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:41 PM
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No, AWDTSG is about women doing shit like labeling a man creepy because he wouldn't pay for her half of the meal. Did this actually happen to you, because that sounds like a reach. If a woman thought that a man paying for her meal was important, and cared about it enough to complain, that would be her complaint “he doesn’t pay for the meal”. It would only put off someone if they shared her belief. And that would save the guy the trouble of dating women who expect him to pay. Dating is especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:08 PM
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Dating risks for women: revenge porn, stalking, drugged, abused, raped, beaten, tortured, kidnapped, murdered. Dating risks for men: being called weird, creepy, gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:31 PM
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Every individual is different, so I am not going to comment on your specific situation (any individual, whether male or female, is allowed to not want sex). However if we look at the research at the statistics at a population level, if it were “biological” based on our gender then we’d expect to see no difference between straight and gay people. However lesbians climax 86% of the time and straight women only 65% of the time. Same biology, different experience. Straight men climax 95% of the time…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:14 PM
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That would suggest behavioural rather than biological, as women could orgasm more if sex was approached differently. Eg lesbians on average have better quality sex than straight women (not an issue of biology).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:56 PM
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Well put. I would say a few more things for clarity for those who aren’t aware: It’s not just an “orgasm” gap but a satisfaction/pleasure gap. Sex doesn’t have to culminate in an orgasm to be pleasurable and satisfying, however the gender gap remains. And the real kicker it isn’t just a “gender gap” but also there is ranking considering different relationship types. In order of who on average get most sexual pleasure: 1) straight men having sex with women (95% climax rate) 2) gay men having sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:52 PM

I mean the group that only featured men because it happened to be a group of men who wanted to do comedy together. They also cast actors beyond their group. There is nothing restricting a group of friends doing comedy together, to write, product, act, whether they limit it to characters they play or also bring in others to play some of the characters. However when a key part of a gag is “isn’t it funny when men dress as female characters”, and it wouldn’t work if a woman was playing the female c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:26 AM
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I haven’t ever looked at these groups so don’t know. What I DO know is that they arose because there are very real safety issues for women, and when most male abusers get away with it, and even those who are caught and prosecuted get off with light sentences and are back on the streets, women have no choice but to try find ways to survive. What I don’t understand is why you are more angry/upset at a statistically insignificant portion of women who might post false claims than you are about the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:09 AM

So basically movies that pander women and feminism? As opposed to films that pander to men and sexism? Pretty sure they already watch enough of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:55 AM

A couple more for those who can handle challenging films (and out of the others I mentioned The Color purple is in this category too) Shame (1988) - dark psychological thriller, main character rides into an australian country town and challenges corrupt police and coverup culture around a teen girl who was gang raped. Black Rock (1997) - dark psychological thriller, main character is a teen boy who is torn when a female friend is discovered raped and murdered and he thinks one of his friends did…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:52 AM

I wouldn’t phase this as “I wish men would watch” however suggestions that might expand men’s insight into diversity amongst women in experiences, thoughts, feelings, relationships, hoping to foster greater understanding and empathy. (Women already are raised consuming a lot of books, movies, tv made by, for, and about men so we understand the diversity, however men often are not as exposed or open to women orientated content and some perhaps come to believe women are 2 dimensional simply becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:35 AM
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You mean the group that didn’t include any women, because it is so much funnier for men to dress up as women? Don’t get me wrong Month python is funny, irreverent, absurd, brilliant in many ways, however men who struggle to understand or empathise with women aren’t going to gain any new insights from it. I think a key issue is most men rarely read/watch stories about or by women, while women do of men. It creates an empathy and understanding imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:53 AM
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Great list! Some of these are amongst my favourites, and others I’ll have to check out. On the subject of Pride & Prejudice, also check out the new tv series The Other Bennett Sister (it’s Mary’s story, told in same style, from a modern writer). A profound addition, because she was considered the plain socially awkward embarrassment of the family, and this is kind of an ugly ducking story where she only finds her power by finding her people outside of the family she grew up with. She is raised b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:47 AM
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What you described is not a male version of AWDTSG. (I had to google it because we don’t all know what it is). Are We Dating The Same Guy. It’s to prevent being conned by a man who claims he is single and monogamous when he is actually already involved. It’s broadened to allow women to warn others of abusive and violent men. All is about safety from abusers. Why is it that women have to worry about this? Because there is a segment of the male population who treat women terribly. Whereas you want…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:22 AM
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Some good points. I remember studies where the question: "Are you looking for a partner?" found the gap between men and women to be around 20%. I suspect the devil is in the details here - do you have links to the research? It’s certainly the case that more men are on dating apps. It’s also the case there are way more men interested in casual hookups/sex. But that is not new - women on average are not as interested in casual sex as men. However I believe that when it comes to people open to seri…
/r/ExRedPill30/06/26 08:44 AM
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That’s interesting, lots of good points. We don't have a better model than the red pill at the moment, that's why it fails. By this do you mean that in past generations unhappy men might have gotten involved in Marxism, labor movements, or other rights movement, where the blame for unhappiness and lack of opportunity would be aimed at those with wealth and power? Or the "make love not war" peace counterculture of the 70s? When it comes to romantic relationships, as long as there are just as many…
/r/ExRedPill30/06/26 02:24 AM
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80% of men are invisible to you. Describe the man who gave you coffee today at Starbucks. You won't be able to because you don't remember him The last person who served me in a store was a young man of colour, brown hair and eyes, spoke with a broad kiwi accent using some slang, was friendly and polite. He has served me a number of times when I visit that small local supermarket where they still have check out staff . However I am not going to remember anyone male or female who serves me at a fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:51 PM
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I never said they were the “biggest threat”, I responded to the false claim that incels are not dangerous. Incels are a hate group, and any hate group is dangerous. Incels are misogynistic men, who are dangerous to women. PUA, MRA, redpill, manosphere are all misogynistic movements consisting of men who pose a threat to women. Tigers are also dangerous. All of these can be true without saying that one is the “biggest threat”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:32 PM
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Has your degree touched on how to deprogram people from distorted beliefs like RP?
/r/ExRedPill29/06/26 05:25 PM
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That’s a good point. Why does just about every tv show or movie have a romance subplot?
/r/ExRedPill29/06/26 05:24 PM
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Do you think CBT psychologists currently know enough about red pill and how to help men deprogram, or do you think they need some information/training to give guidance? Do you think many RP men would seek this out in a conventional form, or would the CBT need to be built into something else like men’s sheds or wilderness adventures?
/r/ExRedPill29/06/26 05:22 PM
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Most violence against women is committed by their intimate partners. Most doesn’t mean all. And there are other ways to hurt a person that aren’t just physical violence. Gotta love it when people ignore the linked evidence of harm being done. I’m guessing you’d also argue an incel can’t rape someone because the act of the rape would mean they are no longer celibate, never mind that the incel ideology right up until that moment has done the harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:36 AM
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Men rank women 1 through 10. We will be intimate with any woman who is 5 and above. No, only immature men think this way, plenty don’t. There is more to life and people than this reductive bullshit that encourages sexual promiscuity without real emotional connection. Women rank every man with numbers as well but they only use two numbers. Zero or one. No, most women don’t think this way. We are looking for a match. There is only one of us, we can’t be with everyone, most only want one man as a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:32 AM
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Sure, incels are harmless. - incel mass shooters/murderers who left misogynistic manifestos aligned to incel ideology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Incel-related_violence Category:Incel-related violence - Wikipedia deepfake porn of school girls created by male class mates https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/13/australia/australia-boy-arrested-deepfakes-schoolgirls-intl-hnk Teenager questioned after explicit AI deepfakes of dozens of schoolgirls shared online | CNN revenge porn websites targeti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:15 AM
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I haven’t watched obsession or 50 shades because the subject turns me off both of them, however you made points here that I can debate It doesn't fit the archetype of rape IRL: Rapists are all kinds of people. If there were a particular set of characteristics that made it clear who was and wasn’t a rapist, it would be easier for women to avoid rapists and easier to convict them. Screen: there are all kinds of depictions of rape in film and tv, by all kinds of men, including nerdy guys. Go look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:51 AM
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I agree that some moderate advice on self improvement and looking your best for a date can be helpful. However it also feels to me like this term “self improvement” has been used in RP circles to focus primarily on superficial external stuff, where previously self improvement would include being a nice person, improving social skills, improving mental health, etc. What do you think?
/r/ExRedPill29/06/26 05:38 AM
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While I agree with part of what you say - there are some people who bring zilch to the table - I have a different perspective on what is being valued. Relationships at different ages and stages will value things differently, however it’s always about a “match” between the two people. In this conversation you’re focused on romantic/sexual relationships, though loneliness is also about platonic relationships, however I will stick with discussing romantic relationships No car, no money, obese, bad …
/r/ExRedPill29/06/26 05:32 AM
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Great response, I agree with most of it 2) I would add that even though woman have been under societal pressure longer to look a certain way, they are not immune at all. Women on average put way more time, effort, money and resources into their appearances from a young age. It is common for women to remove body hair, wear makeup, spend more for their time and money on haircuts, hair styling, skin care, nail care, scents, clothing and accessories, to diet from a young age, wear impractical clothi…
/r/ExRedPill29/06/26 05:12 AM
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Increase in loneliness for both men and women, but women are maybe more likely to seek useful help than men. Redpill/manosphere doesn’t necessarily create the loneliness (many men are already lonely before they seek out content) however absolutely accelerates it as it sends so many negative nihilistic messages, often the advice makes people more isolated, more insecure, more self hatred, it punches down, discourages men addressing their feelings or mental health etc Society isn’t working for mos…
/r/ExRedPill28/06/26 08:19 PM
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Then I take it you have enough friends & people who love you, such that you aren't in a place where you need to find new connections. More the case that if I want to meet new people i seek out spaces where others also want to meet new people, so interaction is consensual. Social groups, hobbies, conferences, networking. And if you want to meet new people to date, you either go to dating/singles related events OR you start by making new friends and see if any of those develop to romance. Actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:49 AM
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I can’t find it now but I read an article that mentioned that there aren’t really any strong social influencers countering the manosphere because (a) the people dedicated to supporting healthy masculinity generally find more value in in-person interactions. (By comparison RP influencers are often grifters who want fame and use their influence to sell ethically questionable products). (b) those who do actively try to counter it usually take a “debunking” approach that isn’t very effective in meet…
/r/ExRedPill28/06/26 04:12 AM
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I’m not playing ignorant, it seems a problem that some men say they have issue X related to women, yet when women give them advice, they don’t really listen, miss the point, argue about something trivial. If you want a new best friend, there is a process to get that, right? You don’t approach a stranger with that proposition. You might go out to actively meet new people, some become friends, over time one might click better and it’s mutual etc. And presumably you’d have many many conversations a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:35 AM
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I don’t have a problem just talking to a woman in a trivial and regular sense. But that’s not what we are here to debate about. Your debate topic is literally “talking to women is impossible” Are you now agreeing with me that it is NOT impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:48 AM
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I don't think that's really addressing his point. Talking to strangers in general isn't the same thing as trying to create romantic opportunities. The debate topic is “Talking to women is impossible”, and OP acknowledges that this is the first step to have multiple interactions to get to know someone prior to dating. He then uses an example of wanting to approach a stranger in a cafe. Of course creating romantic opportunities is somewhat different to just general conversation, however if OP thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:41 AM
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Probably mean that grandparents had deeper connected social networks. (There is probably a better word for this) Nowdays we have many shallow connections - people we call “friends” on social media, people we know only in one context, people we haven’t known for long, transitional connections. In the past social networks would be deeper with many cross connections; people they’d known for years, with friends in common, a few friends who would really be there for each other through life’s ups and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:58 AM
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Your thesis is that talking to women is impossible. From this brief interaction, it seems you are more interested in arguing over trivial details and doubling down on opinionated statements rather than in trying to understand another viewpoint, find common ground, or connecting with a person. As a woman, I can tell you that men have no problem talking to me. I don’t mean cold approaches or dating, just having real conversations like normal people you meet or know (work, networking events, confer…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:48 AM
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Being fair we both know the dynamics of a random encounter is different when it’s man to woman instead of woman to woman. Why do you think it is different? Where I am standing, it would never cross my mind to want to talk to a stranger in a cafe based on the t-shirt they are wearing. If I as a woman walked up to a woman I didn’t know out of the blue and started talking to her, that would be weird. It could make her uncomfortable for any number of reasons. (Who is this strange lady talking to me,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:28 PM
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Feminists always say that men have trouble expressing their feelings Um, actually I think you’ll find it’s not “feminists” so much as scientific research showing that men on average tend to be more emotionally repressed. https://www.the-well.com/editorial/mens-emotional-health Why Guys Still Struggle With Expressing Emotions | THE WELL Some might show only a narrow range of emotions they feel is acceptable as a man - like anger - however “anger” might be what they express whenever they feel anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:07 PM
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Tell me, how do you talk to men who you don’t already know? Because talking to women you don’t know isn’t really any different. It’s not impossible. I think what you really mean is that you want to meet and date women, but at a conceptual level, without actually getting to know any women. And that isn’t very realistic. Instead of trying to talk to women romantically, do some activities that get you mixing with men and women socially so you can realise that women are just people too. Are there an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:00 PM
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I’d say a “cold approach” in the way that pick up artists and manosphere encourages is a hard no in almost all situations. When is it ok? When it is consensual. Let’s pretend it was missionaries trying to convert people to their faith. If someone came to the church, or approached a religious stall, and showed interested, that would be ok. However if they accost people as they are going about their life without any sign of interest then it’s non consensual. That is harassment. Let’s translate tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:37 PM
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Slow down and get to know a person before rushing into physical intimacy or love. watch a movie together than involves relationships or friendships between men and women and discuss it afterwards and how it does or doesn’t relate to life, to tease out beliefs and attitudes ask about his upbringing, what his parents relationship is like, and what he’d want to do the same or different (tease out attitudes to gender roles, relationships, lifestyle, child rearing) Observe his behaviour and how he tr…
/r/ExRedPill27/06/26 08:42 AM
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Semantics don’t matter. Whether it is redpill, manosphere, misogyny, sexism, or something else… you are picking up on some wrong headed thinking that aligns to redpill so are concerned. First thing to ask yourself is if this relationship with him is worth it. Do you want to be with someone who has these beliefs, how it impacts you? Is he the kind of person who will listen to you and learn and adjust his beliefs or is he more inclined to be stuck in his ways and double down? If he is open to lear…
/r/ExRedPill27/06/26 08:24 AM
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I agree with you. H1. In conservative cultures and points in history female virginity was expected/valued and women waited until marriage. Also tended to marry young. Eg many religions, purity culture, highly patriarchal cultures Religion perspective is that sex out of marriage is a sin, women should be pure, etc Historically was often linked to wanting to being sure of parentage of children, as property and titles passed down from father to son, no dna tests back then. It it also tightly linked…
/r/ExRedPill27/06/26 07:41 AM
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I think that is a stereotype and the studies don’t show it to be true. Women are as logical as men. However we all also use emotions and intuition. Men may simply less likely to admit it. When a man is instantly attracted to a woman based on her looks, that is emotional, not logical. Many of our core beliefs and values are not logical, they are intuitive (often based on our upbringing, culture, or indoctrination), and these influence how we see the world and the decisions we make. It's been show…
/r/ExRedPill26/06/26 05:31 AM
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Emotions are natural for men and women. Humans evolved over millions of years to have complex emotions, so it must serve an evolutionary benefit/purpose. These emotions help us connect and work with other humans, which has allowed our species to achieve great things that no single person could do without collaboration. However sometimes our evolutionary instincts are out of whack with modern life. The hit of adrenaline that would have been helpful in prehistoric times to help us fight or escape …
/r/ExRedPill26/06/26 05:15 AM
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He sounds very ignorant and lacking in empathy. We don’t know your situation whether he would actually listen to you or simply thinks he knows best. Because you could put the most robust and well researched argument to a person who just isn’t going to listen or agree no matter what. If you think he will listen, and really want to have this conversation with him again… Maybe start with examples that are more black and white. When someone has been drugged. When someone is unconscious. When a knife…
/r/ExRedPill25/06/26 05:39 PM
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Actually the only time I’ve seen men talk about it is when they get it totally wrong. Like they think virgin = tight pussy and large pussy = slut, which is BS. Women come in all different shapes and sizes naturally, just like men’s penises Vaginas can tighten and loosen during sexual arousal at different stages. Foreplay and arousal loosens it up. Orgasm triggers a series of contractions. Some women have a condition where stress/anxiety tightens their vagina closed to the point they can’t insert…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:52 AM
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The largest study of 50,000 participants found that 14% of women were unsatisfied with partners who had an average size, That means 85% are satisfied with an average size. Why would you selectively fixate on the minority rather than the vast majority? It only studies women already dating So you’re telling me that even the 14% who were unsatisfied with average penis size were happy to date Ultimately the question wasn’t about people’s preferences but “does it matter”. If men on average prefer lar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:38 PM
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I’m not sure why you’ve labelled this as a question for women, as most women in this sub don’t date women, and won’t really know what mistakes men make around this. Regardless of dating men or women you’re looking for a good match. Someone you connect with, feel comfortable with, enjoy their company, are treated with care and respect. Similar values, beliefs, goals especially related to relationships and the life you want together. So a redflag would be someone that is not compatible with that. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:18 PM
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Many women don’t care about height. I think men are more likely to care. Some men don’t want to date a woman taller than them, because they want to feel “bigger” and link it to their sense of masculinity. However for those who are influenced by height, they can see that at a glance. People don’t know a man’s penis size until after they have formed a connection, in which case even if they had a preference they are unlikely to be superficial enough to be influenced by it unless there is a serious …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:17 PM
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Of course all the women you have been with have told you what you want to hear, because obviously your ego couldn’t handle it if they were to tell you otherwise. It’s basically the duty of women to stroke men’s ego. So if a guy has a big penis you tell him you love the size of his dick. If he has a medium penis you tell him you love the size of his dick. And if he has a little penis you tell him you love the size of his dick. Because most men are overly fixated on their penis and want reassuranc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:45 AM

What you need to do: 1) take your ego out of it. It does not belong in your bedroom or relationship. Right now it sounds like you care more about your ego than her actual pleasure. This is why some women fake their orgasms. Because what is worse than missing out on an orgasm? Dealing with a man who makes it all about him, who takes your orgasm (or lack of it) personally, and then requires you spend the night soothing his hurt feelings. Your ego is putting pressure on her to orgasm on demand, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:04 AM
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a man can easily feel interest in a woman as long as he finds her physically attractive. What I don’t understand is why many women seem to need some kind of feedback, attention, or validation before they can develop even a minimal level of interest. It might be the case for you that attraction is 100% based on physical aesthetics of a partner. However that is not true for many people (men and women, but especially women). Maybe physical attraction is 50% of the mix, but then there are pluses and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:11 AM
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Consider this: the world is full of people, and half of them are men. Which one of these men should I as a woman be attracted or interested in? I have limited time and attention, so if a man shows interest, it makes me look his way and take notice. He now stands out from the crowd for a moment. I will observe him, his behaviour, what he says, to see if it aligns to my own interests - or if it’s a redflag that sends me running. I would add that for me personally, there is an element of “reciproca…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:35 AM
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there are things that women say here but they don't track irl. This is a debate sub, between people who hold redpill and non-redpill beliefs, so there are a range of beliefs, not a single set of beliefs that all “women” agree with. In life there is even greater diversity. I was doing a part time job while studying masters. I had some female colleagues. one day (as westerners are open about sex), they were asking about me and then asked what I like to do in sex acted surprised and called me a lia…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:08 AM

A proportion of the population cares about status, and they are made up of both men and women. Women who are status oriented will match with men who are status oriented. However the world is a diverse place with plenty of people (men and women) not caring about status. We are primarily driven by connection. People who we feel good around. Furthermore there is no universal “status” ranking. Life is not a game you level up in. Someone could be a world champion wrestler with status in the wrestling…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:27 AM
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I’d guess Yup, you can “guess” whatever you like, however that doesn’t make it true. There are a lot of men who come into this or similar subs wanting to talk about penis size. What I never see is any talk about vagina size. Surely a big penis needs a big pussy? And a tiny penis would do better in a tiny pussy? So the “ideal” penis size is completely relative to the vagina size. However women do not care about this, except in extremely rare situations where there is a significant mismatch betwee…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:11 AM
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The chadfishing experiment disproves that point. Show me a chadfishing experiment that proves your point. All I’ve seen is biased redpill entertainment content that is not at all scientific or rigorous in its approach. It’s click bait. These guys can be misogynistic and the women do not care. How do you know women don’t care? They never seem to ask women what they honestly thjnk, and the setup doesn’t provide emotional safety for a woman to necessarily say what she actually thinks. So a guy tell…
/r/ExRedPill23/06/26 01:20 PM
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How are you defining chadfishing? As I understand it it came out of the incel community to appear to be someone they are not on a dating site and then to stand women up or reject them - with the intention of humiliating women. Is that what you want? There are so many contradictions in redpill and incel thinking. Redpill complains they don’t get as much interest as they’d like on dating sites, but they behave in ways that drive women off using dating sites. RP complain when women don’t appreciate…
/r/ExRedPill23/06/26 05:21 AM
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I don’t think you’re thinking clearly. the famous people teenagers might pin up on their walls and drool over isn’t the full extent of who they find attractive. studies show men are more driven/influenced by visual appearance of partners than women are. Yes women will noticed attractive men just as men notice attractive women, however women regularly preference the connection they feel for a partner over what he looks like. Who he is as a person, how he treats her, how he makes her feel. those “…
/r/ExRedPill22/06/26 05:07 PM
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If you believe that, you are delusional. It’s interesting that out of everything I said, the only part you’re interested in is defending Grok. Firstly, the biases these ai models have are not intentional, it is due to training them on biased materials without having the sufficient ethics, wisdom or foresight to put in place appropriate safeguards. All the models are biased to some extent. Some more so than others. Secondly all AI models have been trained to be compliant, so they very much reflec…
/r/ExRedPill22/06/26 09:22 AM
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Do you have a link to the actual study or summary? Instead of directing us to X account
/r/ExRedPill22/06/26 05:30 AM
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Are you getting help with your mental health from a psychologist? When you are depressed or anxious you are more likely to listen to unhealthy negative messaging in a way you wouldn’t if you were feeling better. I can give you logical reasons not to listen to bad advice, however you probably won’t listen or take it on if underlying mental health is not taken care of. You may have body dysmorphia (very few people would have any need for micro needling or lasers). Worrying about aging at 21yr s is…
/r/ExRedPill22/06/26 05:17 AM
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On the topic of grok: As others said, AI has no wisdom or true “intelligence”, it is predictive to give answers most likely to be accurate based on its training material and user… but it’s training material is all the stuff on the internet including reddit which also includes ignorant, misinformed, deceitful people. And it will almost never disagree with the user, so if it interprets that you want a particular answer it will give it to you regardless of truth. AI doesn’t know the difference betw…
/r/ExRedPill22/06/26 04:38 AM
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Do you have any recommendations of the documentaries you found useful?
/r/ExRedPill20/06/26 01:49 PM
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These people are grifters. Why would anything they do or say be “fair”? Why is your biggest concern that they tie their misogyny to religion and “traditional values”? Myron Gaines beliefs would be fine with you if he wasn’t also Muslim? Why are you watching his content? Long before redpill there were plenty of religious figures preaching misogyny and selling it as Islam, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, etc and “traditional values”. All these religions were formed in an era where slavery was not unco…
/r/ExRedPill20/06/26 02:30 AM
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As a woman I don’t really think about masculinity. If a person (male or female) feels like masculinity is part of their self identify and that is helpful for them in however they choose to define it for themselves, that is fine. Perhaps trans people feel masculinity/femininity stronger than many others, as they feel something so strongly that doesn’t align to their birth body that they seek to transform the body to match how they feel. Personally I think it wouldn’t have mattered much if I was b…
/r/ExRedPill19/06/26 06:11 PM
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Thanks for sharing your story. It’s great that you found your way out of it.
/r/ExRedPill19/06/26 05:44 PM

Unfortunately it isn’t a practical discussion when the OP has already posted across multiple subs and ignored advice already given. There is nothing anyone can say that will change what is going on in his head, which is just his own insecurity. What indicates it might be fetish is his desire to keep posting about it. You know there are guys who literally pay onlyfans to talk about their dick. And a portion of guys who send unsolicited dick pics get off on women being disgusted by it. So here we …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:45 AM
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It is different, but for reasons you haven’t considered. A lot of the so called “interest” single women get from men isn’t legit. unsolicited dick pics requests for nude pics requests for no strings attached sex pick up artists who intentionally use manipulative techniques misogyny of red pill, incel & manosphere (male supremacists, hate towards women, etc) men spamming women (sending the same low effort message to dozens of women) drink spiking date rape sexual harassment groped abused controll…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:36 AM

Why are you posting this in multiple subs? I’m starting to think you just like talking about your penis and getting others to tangentially talk about it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:56 PM
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Haven’t read them, what I’ve heard about mars/Venus is crap - as you say reinforces gender stereotypes - unaware of the others but if recommended in the manosphere it is 99% likely to be terrible. What kind of information are you looking for (that is purported to be gained from these books)? Do you want alternative recommendations?
/r/ExRedPill17/06/26 11:42 PM
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lot of men are treated better by society if they have a wife or girlfriend Can you give me an example? I don’t think it is true. The only thing I can think of is that some guys who are into status symbols might treat having a wife or girlfriend as a status symbol. This is the same as why some redpill influencers fill their videos with status symbols - cigars, sports cars, luxury goods, mansions, sexy young women. In this case they want to signal their idea of “success” to other men. Is this what…
/r/ExRedPill17/06/26 04:07 PM
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Can a relationship actually work when two people have such fundamentally different views on gender roles, marriage, and children? Only if one or both are willing to compromise and change their position. It’s not simply a matter of having different “views”, it is a case of when it impacts behaviour and decisions. Dating is the easiest part of the relationship. It is harder once living together, sharing finances, get sick, have conflicting needs, or children. While you don’t want children, if you …
/r/ExRedPill17/06/26 03:19 PM
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When you say you “tried”, and he didn’t take the hint, it sounds like you feel like you need his agreement to end it? That isn’t how it works. You tell him it is over, and stop being with him. He doesn’t get any say in it.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/26 09:23 PM
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The only way he will possibly learn is through consequences - by you leaving him and making it clear that his behaviour and misogynistic beliefs are the reason why. He is showing controlling behaviour and is potentially a precursor to abuse (in fact controlling behaviour is considered domestic abuse in some countries). While it may seem like it has come on strong all of a sudden, you also say there were already issues beforehand… and the reality is abusive controlling men don’t usually show that…
/r/ExRedPill15/06/26 07:35 PM
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Can you introduce him to other things, where he might meet a range of people with healthier views and mixed gender? Does he have any old friends you can encourage to reconnect with so he has an alternative friendship group? Spend time with him just reinforcing the core connection without talking about triggering gender stuff (other than if he says something have a standard phrase like “that isn’t correct / don’t talk that way around me” and change the subject). The stronger his connection with y…
/r/ExRedPill10/06/26 02:27 PM
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I am genuinely curious to understand more of what you think is missing and why. Please don’t take any of my comments as “arguments”, they are investigations of ideas. What I noticed during that process: there was almost nowhere to go. No community, no programming, no support for men trying to find their way out. Just more ridicule from people who were supposedly on the right side. Not trying to be inflammatory, however curious to know are you implying that this sub isn’t a community of support f…
/r/ExRedPill10/06/26 01:40 PM
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Well done for identifying the issue you have and seeking support to change. I’d suggest that at the moment when you look around the world and analyse it you are unintentionally seeking out information to reinforce existing beliefs (as most people do) rather than seeking out information to counter those beliefs. Perhaps write down each of these beliefs when they come to you, and then interrogate it by actively trying to find the counterpoints, and then keep reminding yourself of the other perspec…
/r/ExRedPill06/06/26 08:17 AM
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I don’t think you are being honest with yourself about your relationship. I think redpill told you a lie that on some level you wanted to believe. To move forward, I think you need to dig into the truth, based on facts and evidence. I was dumped after a 3 years relationship. In my heartbreak, I was watching dating videos and trying to understand what went wrong It is normal to feel upset when someone breaks up with you and to reflect on it. It’s just a shame you watched redpill videos instead of…
/r/ExRedPill04/06/26 05:37 PM
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I suspect you feel bad because you hurt someone? Have you considered apologising or trying to make amends? This is what they do in Alcoholics Anonymous - before people can truly move forward they have to reflect and acknowledge what they did, apologise, etc. The show runner of the tv series community sexually harassed a female writer, and she accepted his apology and told people his apology was a masterclass in how to apologise the right way. https://allapologies.substack.com/p/dan-harmons-co-wr…
/r/ExRedPill03/06/26 05:42 PM
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Document any evidence you can, and report to the police. This is illegal in many countries: recording someone without their knowledge especially in intimate spaces; domestic abuse (controlling behaviour, psychological manipulation); following underage girls. Even if you don’t have enough evidence it can still be reported so if a previous girlfriend or someone in the future reports, it will all add up. If they get a warrant, they could check his devices to find out how he has been watching you, a…
/r/ExRedPill03/06/26 05:30 PM
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Why are you living together? His views and presence threaten to destabilise your own mental health and relationship with your wife and kids. You can not expect her to have to deal with that in her own home, where she should be able to relax and be herself rather than on guard with an opinionated redpiller. You should not want his influence on your kids. Maintaining a relationship with family members who have different views is difficult but nothing new. Setting boundaries is important, self care…
/r/ExRedPill02/06/26 03:18 AM
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It seems to me an odd phenomenon that so many young men today want external validation about looks compared to previous eras. When I was young, my female friends and I did not have much respect for men who spent too much time in the gym working out, checking themselves out in the mirrors. These men were focusing on the wrong things. Yes they had lots of muscles, but women care more about personality and how a man treats them and makes them feel. The men who spent hours in the gym working on thei…
/r/ExRedPill02/06/26 02:33 AM
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The Guardian did a deep dive on how and why young men first get drawn into the content as well as what led them to leave https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ng-interactive/2025/oct/21/why-the-manosphere-clicked-for-young-men-a-visual-deep-dive?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
/r/ExRedPill01/06/26 06:47 PM
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I’m in a relationship of over 20yrs. My partner got my attention by being considerate, respectful, empathetic, caring - not confident or assertive. Red pill people are rarely able to get a relationship much less keep one going. This stuff contributes to why young men today on average get less sex than they did 20 years ago (before red pill), because red pill tactics have a high failure rate and put most women off. It’s not hard to spot most redpill once they open their mouth and start talking, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:52 AM
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So you agree that these techniques are not working then. Because if they were, according to you, women would all be aggressively pursuing men “insatiably”. Instead of triggering attraction, these techniques repulse most women as they are red flags the men are creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:23 AM
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Womans lust once triggered is insatiable You have clearly never met a real woman who you weren’t paying. If women were “insatiable” with lust then we would be the ones aggressively pursuing men. Yet that doesn’t happen, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:56 AM
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I agree with your general reasoning. (Though, ignoring intersex and trans, which suggest that gender maybe more of a spectrum than a duel category). By observation, I think those who defend traditional gender roles also often believe in hierarchy and patriarchy. This is a system that doesn’t just elevate men over women but also believes in order amongst men, with “masculine” men superior to “feminine” men. People who believe in physical domination. Often these people are not the sharpest tool in…
/r/ExRedPill01/06/26 02:28 AM
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Being respectful doesn't make you attracted to us if you're already not. You have a very limited understanding about attraction for women, because you keep listening to men’s theories about attraction rather than women’s actual experiences. The reality is there is no single model for attraction. It isn’t all “instant attraction at first sight”. If you listened to women about how they ended up with their partners you would realise different women value different things, and attraction is not fixe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:16 AM
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Here we see the catch 22 in action, where men are so arrogant and overconfident in believing that they are right (they shouldn’t listen to women) they refuse to listen to women to get the correct information. About 50% of men have sent unsolicited dick pics to women. The most common motivation for this is the belief that it will turn women on, and women will either send a naked photo in return or will signal interest in sex. However the vast majority of women consider unsolicited dick pics haras…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:26 AM
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Actually the problem is that men are listening to clueless insecure men tell them “what women want” rather than listening to actual women. Of course women are attracted to men who actually treat them with respect. Most women as a baseline need to feel physically and psychologically safe to want to be in a relationship or sexual encounter with a man, while a man who treats her disrespectfully will send off danger vibes and kill attraction. How do I know? I am a woman, and know more women than you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:32 PM
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If there has been a drop in partnering, marrying, and children, why would that fall squarely on women’s shoulders? It takes two to tango. It is odd that you are asking MEN what they think WOMEN are influenced by, rather than asking women directly. PARTNERING All the stats show men are slower to settle down than women, so they would be the ones dragging their feet more. (Though only by a few years) Men and women used to often aspire to marriage and a family, considering that a successful life. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:16 PM
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I turned out to be a cheating selfish m@soginist, i wonder maybe I would have been good beta if I had a volatile family situation Perhaps more because you grew up in an era where you were indoctrinated with “redpill”, and you haven’t yet realised what a crock of shit it is? Sexism, misogyny, infidelity is as old as time, but red pill/manosphere is relatively new and full of really bonkers ideas that aren’t even good for the men following this ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:54 PM
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Personally, I guess I experienced about the same thing as my dad did. He was on steroids so he would probably typically get fitter women than I do. I suspect it took him about 3 hours to kiss my mother, based on how a similar blonde woman as her would kiss me after a date from Tinder. It sounds like you haven’t actually asked your parents for what it was like for them, and I think your estimate is off. There was no Tinder in their day. It was a much more socially conservative era overwhelmingly …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:40 PM
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The average person has been on 1-15 dates in their lives with 15 being on the high end. 100 dates is far outside the norm. 11% of single people date once a month or more, which would fit with this woman having 100 dates in ten years. The “average” includes married people of all ages as well as young singles. That includes grandparents who married when they were 21yr old to their first boyfriend and have been together 60 years (a very common occurrence in that era). Nowadays most people don’t get…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/26 07:38 AM
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i saw a person on that sub who was 5 inches in girth/circumference who said in some women he still felt loose Some men are really ignorant. A vagina is not like a condom or a hand that is going to tightly wrap around a penis. Penises come in different sizes and shapes AND SO DO vaginas. Put a banana in a lunch box, does it fit perfectly? If a woman reaches orgasm, her pelvic floor will contract and release in quick succession which will create tightening and pulsation. Most men never get their f…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/26 05:31 AM
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How about the fact lesbians exist and yeah some of them just do oral or fingers lol. Great point. Also research into sexual satisfaction shows that lesbians are more likely to reach orgasm and enjoy their sexual experiences compared to heterosexual women. So men who want to be good lovers could maybe learn a technique or two from lesbians.
/r/ExRedPill31/05/26 05:08 AM
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ive heard and read so much shit about how women react to small dicks and treat men with them Have any women that you have dated actually reacted negatively to your penis when the two of you are involved in consensual sexual intimacy ? (Not unsolicited dick picks). That would be unlikely to occur to you in real life. Separate fact from fiction. and why are women constantly saying it doesnt matter? size definitely matters, yet they lie saying it doesnt and they downplay it to spare your feelings a…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/26 05:02 AM
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That is a lot [100 first dates] and makes me wonder if she had lied about her body count. How do you figure that? If she has spent the past 10 years primarily single and dating rather than in a long term relationship, that would average about 10 dates per year, or less than one a month. Most women are not into hook up culture, not actively trying to get a high “body count”. She has slept with 1 in 5 of the men she has dated. Why would you think she is lying about that? And why would you think it…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/26 04:57 PM
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You are at the age when it is easiest to date, because majority of people your age have not yet married. Majority of people also don’t have money at your age. That is normal. What most women want in a boyfriend is someone who likes them, treats them with care and respect, who they enjoy spending time with, and who they feel safe with (physically and psychologically). Do you think you can do that for a woman? (Ignore redpill bullshit. They give terrible advice that will turn many women off).
/r/ExRedPill30/05/26 04:30 PM
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What if many people are trying to solve self-esteem issues, fear of rejection, or the need for approval through seduction techniques? Indeed. And they are looking for answers in the wrong places. A lot of red pill men seem to think they will feel better if they get laid or find a girlfriend, however if they don’t treat the root problem (self esteem) they won’t necessarily feel any better even if they reach that goal. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Many an insecure man has screwed up a pot…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/26 03:49 PM
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The real question is whether it helps them build a life that is actually worth living. I agree. If people actually look at the research on happiness, well-being, and success in life, the advice would pretty much be the opposite of the Red Pill. People like Andrew Tate have straight up said happiness is “overrated” (in his opinion), that men don’t need happiness - it is all about “winning”. When people think life is about competition and hierarchy, not only do they chase the carrot (fame, fortune…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/26 03:36 PM
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Did you read your own post? You clearly said you intend to harass women. If “most will feel comfortable”, then why do you need to approach women en mass? If you hit it off with a woman, the process moves into dating, not approaching more women. Why aren’t you having a conversation with your mother and sisters so they can give you better advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:58 AM
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I will add: because of reddit comments. Are you suggesting that insecure keyboard warriors who say vile things online are not as dangerous as misogynists in the physical world? What I have seen is a growth in online content indoctrinating young boys and men, giving them incorrect advice that does great harm to both men and women. Boys as young as 12 being told they are worthless “low status” and will never find love or a girlfriend unless they trick women or treat women badly to force or coerce …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:54 AM
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Your argument is built on several incorrect assumptions, false beliefs that are spouted in redpill circles, that are not true or believed by greater society: This concept of being a “high status” or “low status” man. The belief that this level of status determines whether women will be attracted to them. The belief that all of society (and dating) is ordered by hierarchy. That men are competing with other men to get a partner, and the more dominant man wins and the the less dominant man gets not…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:32 AM
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You are practicing the wrong skills. Only (potentially) going to gain confidence in being an arsehole who harasses women. If you truly come from a family of strong women who you respect, why don’t you run this idea by them, or ask them for advice on what actually works with women? Most relationships don’t come from “approaches”. Most people will meet through work or friends, they will get to know each other a bit first and read the signals before taking it further. You have been listening to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:14 AM

I have never at any point in time suggested that arranged marriage are the ideal - for some reason you keep overlooking the fact that I used arranged marriages as an example to prove to the OP that what he wants (women to have no other options) is less than ideal. However since you are so determined to discuss arranged marriages and yes you are being racist when you discuss them even if this is internalised racism and self hatred. Multiple cultures can have arranged marriages - Muslim, Jewish, E…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:32 AM
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You were insinuating that women being in relationships and having sex and being half the population meant that men were also participating at a similar rate. I gave an example thats statistically the same but where 9 out of 10 men and 0 out of 10 women are excluded. What I'm insinuating is that the stats you quote dont prove what you say. Your logic is incorrect. OP can’t claim “women” are having more sex than “men” and cycling through them. That is factually and statistically incorrect. If the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:53 PM
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Not if there's an imbalance between men and women in how many people of the opposite sex then can spend time with. If there are 10 men and 10 women, and 10 sexual encounters, that's not proof that each person is involved. That condition can be fulfilled with each woman having sex with the same man. Same goes for relationships. Who in this situation are you proposing is “cycling” through sexual experiences? Men or women? Statistically, it will be equal. If 1 man is having sex with all the women, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:38 PM
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The saying implies that you are the toy a woman is taking her turn on. This is not a saying. If it is something that redpill is saying, that does not make it a widespread saying let alone true. Not all men have options. By the same token, then “not all women have options”. Women, in the age of OLD and social media, live in a world of infinite options. Infinite options my arse. If women had infinite options, we would rule the world. Yet men overwhelmingly rule the world - own the most wealth, dom…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:09 PM
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If we were to poll progressives/feminists the question: “Do you believe men who do not stand up to public displays of misogyny but will confide in their best friend in private are doing enough to fight back against the system?" I think I'd be hard pressed to find double digit percentages that would answer positively to that question. I am curious to know why you believe this, and are so sure? Progressives and feminists have the same challenges as what you’re describing. There are many times WE c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:32 PM
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I believe that there are WAYYY more dl queer women. Based on what evidence? The statistics don’t really support your claim. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation Vast majority of men (93%) and women (87%) are entirely heterosexual. 5% of men and 12.5% are bisexual, however it is a spectrum so the vast majority of these (4% men, are 10% women) prefer heterosexual relationships. Only 1% of bisexual men and 1.5% of bisexual women are equally or more interested in the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:07 AM
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toxic parts of patriarchy when telling “good men” to stand up to “locker room talk” A person can stand up to locker room talk without using toxic patriarchy. Just like I, a white woman, can call out a friend for being racist. Or carefully select my words and tone and have a nuanced discussion about the inequities or harmful stereotypes to subtlety encourage them to be less racist. The worst thing I could do would be to laugh or smile at their racist joke. Letting it slide would be accepting that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:24 AM
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With the saying “She’s not yours, it’s just your turn” That isn’t a saying. Women are not a toy that you take a turn of. Women are human beings, same as men, same as you. All men and women have “options”. In this day and age i believe women live in a world of abundance. You clearly have no understanding or insight into women and their experience, and if you would like to have, then start educating yourself by actually listening to what women say. Learn what it is actually like to be a woman, fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:14 AM
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Men also have that option.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:46 AM
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I want to understand what a man needs in order to start dating someone, so that he doesn’t feel awkward or unprepared? Dating is somewhat awkward for everyone. It’s better to accept this is normal. It’s like going for a job interview but higher stakes and operating in the personal/emotional zone where it will be unpredictable and there is no clear right or wrong answer. It’s best to cultivate a mindset where you don’t put too much pressure on yourself or the date, lower the stakes to just want t…
/r/ExRedPill28/05/26 01:52 AM
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So you consider presidents, billionaires, famous scientists, A list actors, and Nobel prize winners to be “low status”? (A lot of them are married!). Sounds like you have a weird measure of success. Marriage has no impact on status (well, it might in some conservative cultures, where more esteem is placed on married men). situationship is way better both sex and ego wise How would you know? You post in incel and ugly subs, so it doesn’t sound like you have any experience in situationship or marr…
/r/ExRedPill28/05/26 12:53 AM
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This an ai post?
/r/ExRedPill27/05/26 11:56 PM
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why is that movement not more global and universal? Why didn’t it start 1000 years ago… or 10,000 years ago? The movements did start thousands of years ago, though our knowledge of it is largely limited to surviving written history which is more modern, and the the victors write history. Ancient Rome and Greece philosophers discussed ethics and had influence. Democracy was actually born as far as we know in Ancient Greece, though they defined it narrowly to only include eligible male citizens wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:18 PM
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why is that movement not more global and universal? Why didn’t it start 1000 years ago… or 10,000 years ago? The movements did start thousands of years ago, though our knowledge of it is largely limited to surviving written history which is more modern, and the the victors write history. Ancient Rome and Greece philosophers discussed ethics and had influence. Democracy was actually born as far as we know in Ancient Greece, though they defined it narrowly to only include eligible male citizens wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:07 PM
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It wasn’t a granting of rights, it was ongoing social progress and democracy. Women’s rights is just one part of the greater “equal rights” movement - all people created equal and deserving equal opportunities. - abolition of slavery - workers rights movements - anti-racism movements - First Nations rights movements - anti-classism - disability rights - animal rights Over 400 years ago slavery was considered ok. Massively unequal society where royals and upper class were often untouchable and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:32 AM
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I (23m) only self improve for the sake of getting my first girlfriend. Self improvement is really meant to be about improving yourself for yourself. Like maybe: - I don’t want to be so angry or sad, so I learn some breathing techniques that help me feel calm. - I care about feeling good in my body, so I eat healthy and get exercise. - I need to learn how to cook & clean because I want to move out of home and will need these life skills. - I want to be a good person with strong relationships so I…
/r/ExRedPill24/05/26 08:27 AM
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Who is narcissist, manipulative, bit psycho and sociopath. also I’m breaking up coz he is purposely choosing not to put effort, when he has acknowledged that he knows that he doesn’t put efforts, and begged me for second chance and he is still acting like that only, been a week of this bs, it’s draining. Which of these is the actual reason you’re breaking up? If you are genuinely concerned for your safety, that requires a different approach compared to if you’re using these terms loosely. You ar…
/r/ExRedPill24/05/26 07:35 AM
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I’m no expert, this is food for thought: 1) there is nothing inherently bad in trying to improve oneself and one’s circumstances. The question is what bar you’re using to measure yourself by, what you’re aspiring to, and if that is a worthy pursuit. For example redpill sees kindness as a weakness and measures people based on looks, wealth, getting laid, competitiveness against other people, which includes a lot of judgment and nastiness to others. While Jesus preached kindness, inclusiveness, se…
/r/ExRedPill22/05/26 05:03 AM
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Find data and evidence and quote it back to them. Maybe create some infographics (and always cite where the data came from so it’s clear you’re not making it up). Most countries have a regular census and keep data on things like marriage, as well as reputable research organisations. For example https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/13/8-facts-about-love-and-marriage/ 8 facts about love and marriage in America | Pew Research Center https://ourworldindata.org/marriages-and-divorces Marri…
/r/ExRedPill22/05/26 02:53 AM
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I would suggest learning about growth mindset. To use an analogy, if someone learned a foreign language in their 20s, yes they will be able to continue building on this in their 30s and improve. However if someone didn’t learn a foreign language in their 20s, that doesn’t prohibit them from learning in their 30s. They may even be dedicated and close the gap to have a decent enough skill in a few years. People are likely to live into their 80s, so there is plenty of opportunity to learn at any po…
/r/ExRedPill21/05/26 05:23 PM
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Friendships take time and repetition. To make new friends it is often better to get involved in person in a regular group, activity or community where you will see many of the same people each week or month, giving you time to get to know each other in a low stakes way. If you are religious, join a church group. If you’re musical join a choir. Dance, yoga, cooking, hiking, drawing, games, activism, politics, sports, bookclub, volunteering, gardening , industry groups - whatever your interest is …
/r/ExRedPill21/05/26 04:35 PM
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Are you saying you think it is rare to have a relationship? Presumably you both have parents who had a relationship? Aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents, neighbours, friends, in relationships? If relationships were rare the human population would not have grown to the size it is today. Humankind, men and women, have not totally transformed in one generation. Almost half the population are in serious long term relationships, though in young adults it’s a bit lower (about 30%). If he is involved …
/r/ExRedPill21/05/26 02:54 PM
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