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Yikes again
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:39 PM
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like a child who doesn't understand what is going in. Perhaps this is out of your league I'm not trying to insult anyone. You’re even more confused than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:37 PM
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Considering that you have to keep secretly editing your comments in a desperate attempt to get them to make any sense, you’re not in a position to insult others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:30 PM
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What was your goal in making this post? Unless your goal was to sound ridiculous, every comment has proven that you failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:22 PM
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This entire post is an error.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:17 PM
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Stealth editing comments is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:15 PM
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When a male mammal insists on sex with a female mammal and succeeds Whether the female or other males are able to stop you or not is the entire matter. Accurately identifying rape isn’t an “emotional response.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:11 PM
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Er, sounds like the rape part is what OP considers “strength”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:04 PM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 10:58 PM
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I prefer How is that relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 05:22 PM
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why is marriage so repulsive to men now but still desirable for women? False premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 02:48 PM
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It sounds like you’re describing teenagers? It’s still normal for most adult relationships to end after a few months, because that’s when you have enough information about someone to make a relatively informed decision about whether to get more invested (or not). It has nothing to do with soulmates or social media, but compatibility and peoples character.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:44 PM
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Are you just talking about sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:50 PM
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The part that really trips me up: the same women who are so antisocial at a bar are the ones I regularly go out with on dating apps. Why is that surprising? Being on a dating app doesn’t mean you’d drop anything you’re doing to talk to a random stranger that you know nothing about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 08:17 PM
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No it doesn’t. Many people get legally married without any of those intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:50 PM
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Why is love a reason to get legally married??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:29 PM
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multiple studies show that women believe roughly 85% of the men they view on the apps are average or below average attractiveness wise When I see studies about men’s ratings about women’s attractiveness, I interpret them as “would I fuck this woman?” Most guys would fuck most women, and have an orgasm doing it. When I read studies of women rating mens attractiveness ONLINE, I interpret them as ratings of men’s PROFILES, not limited to physical attractiveness. A large number of men’s profiles do …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:00 PM
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Also many women marry to get money or for finantial security rather than the legitimate reason which is love There’s zero reason to get legally married if you’re not looking for security. That’s what legal marriage is for. Anyone can have a ceremony for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:50 PM
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The standards I had when I was younger allowed me to be in relationships that made my life worse than being single. The standards I have now ensure that I’m single… except when a relationship would make my life better than being single. Lowering my standards would mean I’m never single, but would make my life worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:28 PM
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And these characteristics apply to your friends, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 04:08 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:08 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 09:36 PM
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Love = dying?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 09:00 PM
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So, you didn’t preserve yourself? Like, are you dead?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:09 PM
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realizing that a woman self preservation comes first before her love for the man, As opposed to…?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:07 PM
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It sounds like you equate masculinity with a lack of social skills? People tell joke they think other people will enjoy because that’s what jokes are for. People don’t talk about their sexual desires with everyone (like coworkers, acquaintances), because it’s an inappropriate overshare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:57 PM
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It seems like you are equating effort with head games? Of course people in healthy relationships put in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:05 PM
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I know you’ve written on it- you’ve written two completely contradictory things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:15 AM
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What you said is exactly what you are now saying that you did not say. Either you think that women ask about jobs for just one reason, or you know better. It can’t be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:13 AM
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But what ARE you saying??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:09 AM
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I’m not following you. Are you saying that because some women on Reddit ask about job to determine financials, it must be true that everyone you go on dates with is doing that and only that? It can’t be true that any women ask about someone’s job on a date to find out anything else about them? Like what they’re passionate about or what kind of life they have?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:01 AM
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but to me it's a very thinly veiled way of asking what I bring to the table as a man strictly from a socio-economic standpoint. Why do you think that? Strictly? There are so many ways that someone’s job impacts their partner besides financial. Being on-call or working variable hours. Working third shift. Traveling a lot for work. Having a stressful job.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 11:56 PM
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The same reasons anyone would choose to be single/date casually for a certain time in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:01 PM
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Depends what “expect” means. It it just means that someone is only interested in dating people that pay for dates, then no. There are plenty of gay people who want to pay on dates and plenty of gay people who want to be paid for on dates. A preferred role in romantic relationships in not necessarily a gendered role. Wanting a certain type of partner doesn’t become a sexist act just because you have certain genitals/gender expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:22 PM
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Is it okay for women to lie about being on birth control? About STDs?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:01 PM
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I assumed you referenced the definition of extrapolate because you still think that’s what you mean? If you don’t know what you mean, you can’t expect me to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:53 PM
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That you don’t know what extrapolate means? I think that because you keep using it incorrectly in a situation where there is no data to extrapolate from. It’s like telling something to drink when they don’t have a beverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:19 PM
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And yet, you’re unable to reference “the stats.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:48 PM
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Exactly- what known data am I extrapolating from?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:40 PM
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I don’t think you know what extrapolate means?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:24 PM
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One of the top reasons for divorce being financial reasons just means the man didn't make enough That is a bizarre and baseless assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:26 PM
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How serious were the relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:22 PM
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essentially believe the economic world is completely rigged against them, which is basically what incels seem to believe about the dating world There’s a massive difference between a system having unequal or even unfair outcomes, and a system being “rigged” against people. Imagine a short person wanting to play basketball and but not being selected for a team. Now imagine a person not being picked for a team because the coach took a bribe to pick someone else. Those are not the same situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:14 PM
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How many serious relationships have you been in, and were they with people you knew before or strangers (from apps, etc)?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:45 PM
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I personally think that sleeping with your professor for grades is absolute lowest of the low level behavior Given that you’re not concerned about a man using his professional leverage to have sex with women who he has authority over… This post is a perfect example of men’s immorality being ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:17 PM
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How does that answer my question? You’re telling me I have plenty of time because you have plenty of time, then switching to telling me it’s about your magical hypothetical scenario having plenty of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:12 PM
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Then how is your current life relevant??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:06 PM
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Sorry, you’re saying women would get what they want because they’d be indoctrinated to think more casual sex was the norm? Men get fully satisfied by getting what they actually want, and women would be “fully satisfied” by being told to want what they get? Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:05 PM
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YOU have a lot of free time, therefore WE aren’t running out of time? Excuse me?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 09:14 PM
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But what are you saying that women want. You’re claiming that this will make both men and women “fully satisfied.” How did you come to the conclusion that women would be satisfied?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 09:12 PM
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I’m not following.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:18 PM
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Again: Which women’s expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:55 PM
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Which women’s expectations? Opposed to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:01 PM
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this really stems from a scarcity mindset. Time is only really that crucial if you are late and are also in scarcity of something. for my advice to work the situation would have to be something very post scarcity There is no post-scarcity for time. We’re mortal. We’re all going to die. My time is scarce. My boyfriend’s time is scarce. It always will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:50 AM
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You’ve made multiple comments intentionally lying about what I said. You went back and stealth edited out comment. All because you -don’t take this seriously. Sure…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:42 AM
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Lol, stealth editing the comment to make it more rational after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:27 AM
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Yep, that’s where I said almost no one buys a house with someone they’re not in a romantic relationship with. Why did you think that meant no one buys houses?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:21 AM
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You said: no one ever buys a house I very literally did not say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:12 AM
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You are the only person who has brought up roommates. I have no idea why, and apparently you refuse to tell me when I ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:09 AM
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The only way both men and women can both be fully satisfied How are women “fully” satisfied in this scenario? It sounds like men get everything they want. Women just get less risk, and the expectation they’ll do things they don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:07 AM
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What about roommates? How is that relevant? Not every couple is buying a house and having kids together. And therefore…?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:04 AM
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You act like time has no value. I could go out and get a second job to make money to give that money to strangers who approach me on the street. The same reasons I don’t are the reasons I’m not going to have sex with people I don’t want to have sex with. Even though it makes them feel good. And I don’t want my boyfriend to get a second job either, because I don’t want him to spend less time with me. And I don’t want either of us raising other peoples’ kids. We don’t have kids because we don’t wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:51 AM
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Tell us you’ve never had a FWB or never had a romantic relationship without telling us you’ve never had a FWB or a romantic relationship… I agree with you that platonic relationships are undervalued. But there’s a reason that almost no one ever buys a house or decides to raise a kid with someone they don’t have a romantic connection to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:36 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 03:51 AM
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70% of men in their 20s had sex last year. How selective can women be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 03:25 AM
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OLD was simply a response to people staying home more I think OLD was originally a way to find more compatible matches than the folks you might run into naturally. OKCupid had so many quizzes to help you find a particular kind of match. But as more people joined, for the reasons you reference, it became more of a meat market.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 08:07 PM
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The happiest couples married young and stayed together. Don’t most people who get married under 25 get divorced??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 12:24 AM
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Even if true, how does that apply here??
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:37 AM
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I’m sure you’ll tell people I strung you along.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:59 PM
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I’m not the one coming up with conspiracy theories to explain people not wanting date me when they’ve never expressed any interest in dating me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:53 PM
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all the while giving off the illusion that he wants a romantic relationship with her. Again, how is he doing that. Fucking someone does not imply that you are going to have kids with them or take them home for Christmas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:48 PM
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Extremely weird that you say she thought she was in a relationship. The title is literally “I was talking to this guy,” which is not a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:41 PM
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a man who feigns for relationship with a woman and strings her along How?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:34 PM
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Before when he was actively and intentionally hiding that he was interested in her and not flirting?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:16 PM
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But you say that when the man actually expresses his interest, that she turns him down. That is the opposite of stringing someone along.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:09 PM
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That’s what you just described: Men acting like a friend and not flirting, or expressing any romantic or sexual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:48 PM
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If you’re pretending to be someone’s friend, you’re stringing yourself along.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:39 PM
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Men also shouldn't be shamed if they want to capitalize and string along 30+ women for relationships because let's face it, those same women were doing the same thing in their 20s to men. Who are women stringing along in their 20s?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:07 PM
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What does this have to do with women “understanding” men’s experience? How does this relate to the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:11 AM
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Breaking up with someone who wants a paternity test =/= being against paternity testing. I’m for paternity tests the same way I’m for children support payments. Sounds like a great way to manage liabilities between two people who aren’t partners. If you think women who break up because of paternity testing demands are manipulative cheaters… you should want to break up too! You shouldn’t want them to have your kids in the first place!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:18 AM
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Do you find it hard to shut down or ignore unsolicited advice? Most of the advice I see women give men is explicitly solicited. Post after post on dating subs of men asking women for advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:06 AM
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But why do men need women to understand? Doesn’t 50% of the population understand “the problem?” Why isn’t that enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:03 AM
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So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 09:37 PM
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Plus, I see girls love taking photos around all the time. What is your point here? Do you believe that all women are the same? If you see some girls taking selfies, it can’t be true that a lot of women don’t enjoy it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 09:31 PM
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A lot women don’t enjoy it either. But it does show a lot about personality- that you’re willing to put in effort and communicate, even when it doesn’t come naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 09:18 PM
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As opposed to what? Letting her think you want to be friends when you don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:49 PM
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being humble is generally the action of a good and kind person. Being humble is not an action at all, much less an act of kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:26 PM
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Misrepresentation is wrong, but you can get divorced. A woman can’t un-birth a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:23 PM
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And many women would choose not to have children in a relationship without trust. If you’re suspicious of your partner, giver her a chance to leave before having your kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:22 PM
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It’s not decided by the woman either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:20 PM
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Great, share your source.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:28 PM
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aggressive unhinged men and more often than not they’re showing that aggression towards women Towards women instead of men? Why would you think that? Men are much more likely to be assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:26 PM
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Sacrifice how?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:17 PM
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Only about 10% of divorces award alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:56 AM
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The vast majority of this post has nothing to do with love. This is the only part that’s relevant: In relationships,Men aren’t loved they are only loved for what they can give . But the only “proof” you have is that you’re “pretty sure” women wouldn’t help a partner in an attack?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:36 PM
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I'm just questioning whether illegality is good or bad for women. Depends on the woman, obviously. An only wife benefits from inheritance not being split.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:26 PM
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Caring about the environment is caring about humanity and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:20 PM
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Most couples who meet "online" aren't necessarily using "dating apps". Are you saying it’s a fact that they aren’t? Or just that it might be a fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:29 PM
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Why is he partnered with a manipulative woman? Why is he having kids with a manipulative woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:27 PM
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If you want your partner to be more committed to you, propose. It’s completely illogical to expect someone you’re just dating to treat you like someone they’ve made a huge commitment to. Anyone who is seriously commitment-minded is dating to decide whether to make a commitment, not to act like they already have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:00 PM
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But if your friend goes on a date with someone and rapes them, you stop being friends with them because there was no consent, right? You don’t say, “that’s that person’s problem for going on a date with a rapist.” So why are you OK with someone who violates consent to trick someone into a relationship they didn’t agree to and expose them to STDs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:35 PM
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Then they should be completely honest with their partner, and their partner can decide if they are OK with it. I personally would not choose to marry or have a child with someone who needed medical evidence that I wasn’t tricking them into raising someone else’s kid. Others would.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:20 PM
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But in all cases, telling someone you need risk-mitigation because they are untrustworthy now is completely different than awareness that they may become untrustworthy in the future. If someone tells me they have a go-bag because I might hit them today, we should break up today. If someone tells me they need a paternity tests because they think I’m lying today, we should break up today.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:12 PM
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Telling someone who is risking their life to have your kid that your relationship is not solid is not the same as asking for a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:01 PM
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What does that have to do with this conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:56 PM
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You don’t understand the difference between currently thinking your partner is mentally ill (but still having a kid with them) and understanding there’s a chance they may become mentally ill?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:55 PM
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Obviously. What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:53 PM
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Let’s be real here, the paternity test thing isn’t about medical disorders for the guys who argue for it here on this sub. You’re not understanding this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:51 PM
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I know people who have been upstanding and trustworthy their entire life, then developed Bipolar disorder. There is every reason to be prepared for the worst in your partner, regardless of their past or current behavior. No one should “trust” another person not to develop a medical disorder. That’s not a personal failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:44 PM
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But someone is in a relationship they did not consent to. They did not consent to be in an open relationship, but they are in a one-sided open relationship. They did not consent to new exposure to potential STDs, but they are potentially being exposed to STDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:40 PM
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These are completely different issues. Prenups and go-bags are to prepare for the chance that someone might become a risk in the future. This is not personal. Most adults know a relative or acquaintance who developed a serious mental illness that presented a threat to their family. There are many factors that could lead even the best person to become unstable, through no fault of their own. Paternity tests are to cope with the fact that you think your partner is untrustworthy NOW, and was likely…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:35 PM
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A lot of relationships start online. So, a lot of men and women find partners online and commit to them. But then they are no longer online. The men and women online most often are people who explicitly do not want to commit, or think they want to commit (but actually do not). When you log on, this is mostly who you see. People who only want to get serious with people who do not want to get serious… aren’t actually interested in getting serious. Online dating is full of avoidant people, because …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:50 AM
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Everyone is so “me, me, me,” these days, when they should be focused on working extra hours to increase corporate profits! People should have kids so they’re too afraid too have any boundaries whatsoever!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:44 AM
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Creating kids because you can’t be bothered to wear a condom isn’t a fucking selfless act either. I have no clue how any of these observations led to you making this ridiculous post. You’re just describing the most selfish irresponsible behavior and saying it’s great because it makes people feel better about going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:31 AM
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At least with kids you’re working hard to give them a good childhood and all that Again, you’re saying that the purpose of kids is to make grown people feel better about being wage slaves. It’s a disgusting position.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:23 AM
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Lolololol… you’re saying that people should have kids as a self-harm prevention mechanism, and calling that prioritizing someone else. You are describing incredibly self-centered and selfish behavior, and pretending it’s a sacrifice. Give me a fucking break. Kids aren’t a living stress ball for your desk.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:14 AM
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What? You are saying that parents put up with more misery and bullshit because they are desperate to feed their kids… But also that single people are more miserable because they put up with less bullshit because they’re not desperate to feed their kids? How does this make even the smallest amount of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:03 AM
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Historically it did work out for women though Why do you believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:52 AM
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If you have kids, you’re more likely to accept the bullshit and put up with the misery life often throws at you WHY. IS. THAT. GOOD. You keep saying the same thing over and over again. Yes, we agree that parents put up with more bullshit and misery than people living just for themselves. Tell me why that’s a good thing. Why is that an argument for having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:48 AM
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And I’m asking you why that is a good thing. Why is it a good thing that people put up with abusive employers or work harder to potentially make the world a worse place?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:18 AM
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And you don’t care about human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:14 AM
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Whoa, you aren’t sure whether restricting participation in the political process by age is a violation of human rights, but you are sure that restricting access to alcohol is? How does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:09 AM
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Is it a violation of human rights to not be able to drink until 21 or run for president until 35?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:03 AM
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People talk about how terrible it is to have kids, but I can speak from experience that the people who do have kids work a hell of a lot harder and have a reason to actually put up with their job. Why are you framing this as an absolute good? If I’m working harder in an industry that wreaks environmental destruction, is that a good outcome of me having kids? If I’m putting up with unsafe working conditions, is that a good outcome of me having kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:47 AM
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Just buy sex and food then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:43 AM
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The only men women find attractive at baseline are less than 1 in 10. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:48 PM
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Do you identify as a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:47 PM
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Do you think women wore makeup to go to Beyoncé concerts?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:23 AM
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What is the point of rating someone if you are attracted to their gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:20 AM
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How does that answer the question? If true, it may be a reason for women not to care about other women’s opinions. It’s not a reason for women not to have their own opinions of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:03 PM
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For men to take it into account how?? You think a man is going to think a woman is great for the “wrong” reasons unless you point it out to him? You need to remind men what they’re attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:56 PM
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I’m not sure why you believe that. But even if it were true… so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:29 PM
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What’s your motivation for sharing such intimate info with coworkers and acquaintances?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:56 PM
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But if your goal is to be understood, why would you seek that understanding from people who have not had the same experiences?? I understand wanting other people to be empathetic if you are seeking action on their part. I don’t understand the point of wanting it just for the sake of understanding, when you can get that from half the population already!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:39 PM
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“Just haven’t found the right woman.” Listing the traits of women that turn you off is a completely bizarre thing to do in a professional situation. I’m not surprised that it resulted in weird reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:34 PM
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Why are you reciting your list of dating disqualifications to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:05 PM
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By what “objective” standard could women be rated?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:54 PM
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Why is it better?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:27 PM
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Why would women rate themselves or other women in terms of what men like?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:06 PM
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So, men don’t have empathy for issues they personally experience… It seems unlikely that women would have empathy if men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:42 PM
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That’s not our point of disagreement. I’m fully aware that members of both genders lose interest in the person they’re dating all the time. But you seem to be saying that if women understand how lonely single men are, 1) they’ll stop losing interest, or 2) they’ll still lose interest but stay in the relationship anyway. And I have no idea why you think that. There’s no logical reason to imagine that would occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:17 PM
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Why in the world would empathy get a woman to date a man she doesn’t want to date or stay in a relationship she doesn’t want to stay in? What does empathy get men to do in their personal lives that is anywhere near equivalent to this huge sacrifice you expect from women? Give me an example: Men are so empathetic to _ they .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:33 PM
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When I commented asking how women should show empathy, that response I got was “blowjobs.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:14 PM
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But that’s what no one will explain. WHAT STEPS? What actual changes do you expect or want as a result of empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:08 PM
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How do your male coworkers react?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 01:24 PM
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Do something positive =/= don’t do something negative. This post is asking women to actively show empathy and kindness, not just be neutral or not negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 01:24 PM
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blame also to men instead of showing a little kindness or empathy. Show HOW? If this post is about the thoughts in women’s heads- why? If this post is about the ACTIONS you want to see women take, SAY WHAT THEY ARE.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:12 AM
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And therefore…? If you think someone is unattractive, lacking self-control, and lacking in personal responsibility, you should definitely break-up. Are you looking for arguments to stay with someone you feel this way about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:46 PM
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That’s a very… unique interpretation of that term.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:39 PM
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How is this about low-maintenance women? Nothing you reference has anything to do with someone being low-maintenance. How does not going to strip clubs make you a low-maintenance partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:26 PM
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The only person who is claiming to know anyone’s true nature is YOU. I don’t assume that the men I agree to date are standup guys. I didn’t say anything about knowing their character. I said I knew enough to be interested. You assume that every guy who bothers me on the street is a standup guy. I know for a fact that you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 11:21 PM
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Are you fucking kidding me? I just told you that many men who have cold approached me have screamed in my face for turning them down. I told you that some of them have threatened to murder me. Now I need to make an argument for why I don’t assume men who cold approach are standup guys??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 11:09 PM
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I can't see limiting yourself to the 10-20 people in your chess club or math club an effective strategy Neither can I, and I never suggested it. I meet people in all kinds of ways, but not cold approaches in public. You asked me to compare meeting someone in a club vs. a cold approach. It should be the other way around where you'd be open to meeting them wherever but the personality requirements go beyond "being nice to others at break time, etc" But I don’t know anything about the personality o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:55 PM
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So you disagree with OP that an abused wife is responsible for the failed marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:46 PM
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You're limiting your search much more narrowily than it needs to be find a solid connection Well, I’ve found good connections with my strategies. So it follows that doing anything more would expand my search more than necessary. you wont gain that much useful insight into someone's charecter in these very casual and surface level at this club That’s fine if it’s your experience, but it hasn’t been mine. The bar for screening is set very very low in those example. You seem to be vacillating betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:42 PM
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1% of the population is more people than I’d ever want to date in a lifetime. I’m not dating 99%+ of the population no matter what my dating strategy is. If I’m considering dating someone in the same club: We have at least one similar interest, yes I’ve had exchanges with them I’ve found respectful and enjoyable I’ve seen how they treat other people I’ve seen whether they show up on time, keep basic commitments I may know something by about compatibility (if they take smoke breaks, get obnoxious…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:16 PM
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And there are ample warnings that women leave men and file for alimony and custody of children. It’s common knowledge. If women are at fault for ignoring warnings… So if women have been warned so many times not to gamble yet they still do and lose, isn't it just their fault if they end up as single Why aren’t men to blame if they gamble and lose?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:44 PM
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Right, but if a man physically abuses his wife, he could have prevent that failed marriage in TWO ways: Not getting married Not abusing his wife So why is your post about blaming women for failed marriages?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:25 PM
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But the marriages failed whether he gets physically abused or not, whether he’s financially impacted or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:05 PM
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Can’t men prevent failed marriages the same way? Why aren’t men and women equally responsible for getting married?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:57 PM
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I’m primarily involved in volunteer and professional organizations. But other friends met their partners in running clubs, clubs that organize bike rides, at jiu-jitsu, and on ultimate frisbee teams. Even though I’m not in any of those groups, I’ve socialized with them enough to get to know some folks through my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:49 AM
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But the suburbs are places with men. The suburbs are also Compton, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 11:46 PM
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Why won’t you explain it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 11:14 PM
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Dangerous areas? Dangerous how?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:55 PM
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you shouldn't be responsible for someone else's misconceptions but that doesn't change what the outcome could be What outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 09:25 PM
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Explain the metaphor. Car = what? Quality of car = what? Windows down = what? Key in ignition = what? Stealing = what? Compton = what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 09:18 PM
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People on this sub talk so much about how women look down on men. But no one thinks less of men than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:50 PM
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I KNOW you think women are responsible for the thoughts and behavior of men they’ve never met. I’m asking you WHY.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:43 PM
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Again, the questions you didn’t answer: What do the misconceptions of other people have to do with your relationship? Why is a woman responsible for a stranger’s incorrect beliefs about her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:38 PM
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And I’m asking you why it’s my problem that men I don’t know say stupid shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:37 PM
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Whoa! Are you saying that being aware then men might be attracted to you = being “ripe for the picking??” WTF?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:35 PM
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For the guys it is like they are advertising to the world that they are ripe for the picking. What do the misconceptions of other people have to do with your relationship? Why is a woman responsible for a stranger’s incorrect beliefs about her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:29 PM
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But you think she would have been honest about her weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:33 PM
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No. If you can’t look at someone’s photos and tell if their body size is acceptable to you, weight isn’t going to help you. Height is a static measurement that you can’t see from photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:10 PM
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Of course people go on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:56 PM
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If someone I didn’t know asked me out while I was at a bar I’d consider if I liked them. But I don’t like them. I don’t like them because I know absolutely nothing about them other than their physical appearance. So by this method, I would say no 100%, which is what I actually do. isn’t this basically a cold approach required at some point Again, speaking to a stranger about a shared interest is not a cold approach for dating, because the ask doesn’t happen the first time. If I’m at a gallery op…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:44 PM
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For the first paragraph, it sounds like you’re looking for an explanation of how people can speak to anyone about anything other than dating? As an example: I joined a local volunteer organization. I offered to help with board activities. I met a lot of strangers because we were all working on something together. I saw them repeatedly, because we all went to the same meetings. If anyone had asked me out, I would have considered it. It would not have been a cold approach. People see acquaintances…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:12 PM
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There’s a difference between cold approaching a stranger for a date, and meeting a stranger through shared interests or friends, then running into them repeatedly until they become an acquaintance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:01 PM
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How is this an answer to my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:00 AM
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Why childless people? Let’s think of two examples: Person A: Childless, saved a significant amount for retirement, continues to contribute towards taxes and the economy. Person B: Penniless, has one child who goes to prison, has a second child who becomes a drug addict. Why would Person A be the one you send away?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:52 AM
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I feel like this must just be a misunderstanding based on geography and lifestyle. A lot of people still leave the house and participate in all kinds of social events. They’re part of clubs and organizations where they meet people and keep interacting with them. They meet friends at the bar where they are introduced to friends of friends. There are SO many ways to meet people that don’t involve a cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:34 PM
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If you can’t be bothered to engage in the discussion you started, I certainly can’t be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:43 PM
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So why do you keep defining empathy as words and actions? Worse if being empathetic towards others is your default (with words or by action) it becomes the bare minimum they expect from you Why do you characterize acting “fairly” as “getting fucked over?”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:38 PM
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Approaching a interaction in good faith assumes that this person will treat you fairly and so you must treat them fairly too. That’s not empathy. None of this is empathy. What do you actually think empathy means?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:30 PM
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How in the world do you think this plays out in real life?? You imagine that the other person wants to fuck you over, so you let them fuck you over? You think that’s what empathy means?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:08 PM
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But specifically not family? What do they not want from forever girlfriends that would be family? Do they not want their forever girlfriends to take care of them when they’re seriously ill?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:37 PM
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Just as access to sex, or as family?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:29 PM
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I think it's mainly women who want families and kids a lot of men would be perfectly fine with being a forever boyfriend How is wanting a forever girlfriend not wanting a family?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:26 PM
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Teens are having less sex than grandpas in puritan times Because teens used to get married. even when open sexuality is praised and welcomed Sexuality = having sex. Boundaries and consent are praised and welcomed by many too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:56 PM
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This isn’t about online dating vs. meeting people offline. This is about dating strangers vs. people you have already gotten to know. If you meet a stranger offline, you deal with all the same issues- randomness, limited information, high pressure on early interactions. Dating strangers is not for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:17 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:25 PM
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I disagree that these are equivalent. Our first responsibility is to not actively do harm to our partner, way before our responsibility to support our partner. If one person is not doing their share of responsibilities, it places an unfair burden in the other person. The first priority is always to remove the negatives, before addressing the absence of something positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:47 AM
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Choosing to cling to someone you do not yet know shows poor judgment. Healthy adults are evaluating whether someone is a good and trustworthy person before attaching themselves. Also, being overly close or adhering yourself to someone limits them. If you object to someone doing anything without you, they will be making huge sacrifices and making their life smaller to accommodate your clinginess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:29 AM
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What in the world are you talking about? If I’m fixing the garbage disposal, I test the garbage disposal to see if I fixed it. I don’t throw a whole bunch of food down the drain before I know if my fix worked. If you’re doing something to improve someone else’s well-being, the most logical thing in the world is to CHECK AND SEE IF IT’S WORKING. Assuming that you fixed a problem without evidence is emotional, not logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:46 AM
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To be clear, is that picking women with their dick or their brain?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:37 AM
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What do you mean there’s nothing to support it? If you know someone has been unhappy, and don’t ask if they are still unhappy, it’s completely reasonable to conclude you don’t care whether they’re unhappy. If you only ask about getting something from them, it’s completely reasonable to conclude you only care about getting something from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:35 AM
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Lol, I doubt men are approaching strange women on the street that they aren’t attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:39 PM
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Not wanting to pull your weight in a partnership and not caring about the well-being of your partner isn’t how a man operates, it’s how an asshole operates.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:25 PM
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I’ve been in this situation as a woman (who had a partner who was “too stressed” for sex, among many other things). I would never have revisited such a conversation by talking about sex, and think you have to be really selfish to do so. If someone you care about says they’re too stressed and exhausted to enjoy activities they used to like, you try to help, then…. …Ask the person you supposedly care about how they are doing! Ask if they are doing better! Ask if any changes have helped! If you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:14 PM
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There is no basis for your conclusion. There’s no reason to interpret effort as approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:27 PM
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Not knowing why you are uncomfortable and just acting apon it is literally how racism and subjugation workes in the past... Are you fucking for real? If I’m uncomfortable going on a date with someone because I’m RACIST, you think the right thing to do is DATE the person I’m racist against?? There are a lot of good reasons to get to know different kinds of people and explore our automatic reactions to others. Dating is not an appropriate context to do that, because of the chances you could harm a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:23 PM
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Why in the world would anyone go one a date with someone they have a bad gut feeling about??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:11 PM
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But why would there be a kid if you don’t trust the woman? Definitely get a paternity test if you’re not sure the kid is yours. But why marry, have unprotected sex, or consider raising a kid with someone you suspect is untrustworthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:59 AM
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Do you have access to a dictionary?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:36 AM
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What do you imagine the word “usury” means??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:31 AM
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I still don’t understand our last exchange, so let’s not start another one. Someone who is not in a relationship with you can be cheating on you, and also it’s usury…,
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:21 AM
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What does that have to do with marrying someone you already distrust enough to divorce??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:20 AM
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Sorry, you’re saying you’d marry someone you knew you didn’t trust, then divorce them because you didn’t trust them? I’m not following. But I also have no idea why you think I would know the answer of why you wouldn’t do something?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:07 AM
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You didn’t answer my first question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:48 AM
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Why would you marry someone if you’re scared she’s going to trick you into raising someone else’s child? If that fear happened after marriage, why not divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:41 AM
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I asked you for a single example of your claim happening anywhere in the universe, and you changed the subject. I’m not the one full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:38 AM
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Sorry, are you standing by the bullshit claim you just made? Or acknowledging that it was bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:15 AM
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Usury?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:04 AM
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How can it be cheating if there was no relationship? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:58 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:57 PM
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Tell me a government in the world that will issue a court order for a man to take a paternity test AND require him to pay child support if it’s negative. Give me one real-world example. Are there governments that force husbands to support kids born in their marriage? Even if they aren’t theirs biologically? Absolutely. But they don’t require testing in those cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:48 PM
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I trust the neighborhood kid who waters my plants “with many other things” too. That’s not what marriage is about. but asymmetry of info means this will always be uncertain. And the asymmetry of childbirth means a woman doesn’t know if she’s risking her health for the right man until it’s too late. But she has to decide whether to take a leap of faith. I prefer to see it as golden opportunity to take the relationship to the next level of trust. How kind of you to take your relationship to the ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:38 PM
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That’s not what we’re discussing. You said ONLY whe govern only do it to benefit the woman or the children You are absolutely incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:25 PM
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Right, but if a man thinks that women as a group are untrustworthy, I think it’s unethical to get married and make a dishonest claim that he trusts a woman. Again, it’s fine to say “I will never trust you.” But it’s also fine to dump someone who will never trust you, waaaay before you have his children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:06 PM
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You do realize that many men ask for paternity testing to get custody?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:03 PM
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How does a government-required paternity test not benefit a man if he’s not the father??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:54 PM
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Why did you address this post to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:51 PM
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Yeah, so weird that a woman alone on night shift doesn’t want her coworker telling her how cute she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:53 PM
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The government orders paternity testing regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:38 PM
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Do men not support each others go fund mes? Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:34 PM
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Your claim was “never been an issue.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:05 PM
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Trust is certainly an issue. If a pregnant woman is unconscious and being rushed into emergency surgery, her husband is making life or death decisions about her. She’s trusted her husband enough to risk her life and health by getting pregnant. It’s reasonable to only want to trust someone with your life if they trust you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:00 PM
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It’s totally reasonable to say, “I’ll never trust a woman not to cheat on me and trick me into raising someone else’s child.” It’s also reasonable for women not to have a kid with anyone who feels that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:53 PM
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Of course they can. Knowing that is what makes trust meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:46 PM
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Like anyone, we can only reliably speak to what works for us. My female friendships have been critical to improving and maintaining my mental health. Being open and vulnerable in supportive same-sex friendships has been a life-saver. So it’s tempting to recommend that to men too, but it seems like men have chosen not to support those connections. I’m not in a position to say why, or what would be helpful instead. I know when I hear about breast-cancer awareness month (for example), it’s from wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:44 PM
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What would it change? Like the majority of women, I’ve always voted for parties and candidates advocating for the expansion of healthcare services, including mental health services. I’ve supported parties and candidates concerned with income inequality, housing affordability, and benefits for seniors. I have not voted for parties and candidates that advocate for the expansion of military interventions, a huge contributor to men’s mental health issues. I’ve encouraged people in my life to adopt h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:28 PM
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Depends on the demographics of the dating pool. Are there a lot of single people in the area? Are people less commitment-minded and/or religions/conservative? Are there a lot of people with demanding jobs and/or kids from previous relationships, who might not want something serious? Are a lot of people there temporarily, for work, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:11 PM
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Woosh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:56 PM
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If you’re saying “I think you might have put someone else’s penis in your vagina,” that’s obviously personal. If you’re saying, “Other women on the planet have cheated, and I can’t tell the difference between them and you,” that’s personal… to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:55 PM
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If it didn’t, it wouldn’t be faith… I don’t need to trust my boyfriend not to turn into King Kong, because I’m 100% certain he won’t. The only things I trust my boyfriend not to do are things he could possibly do. If you need 100% certainly, don’t pretend you have trust or faith. Because trust and faith mean you’ve decided you’re already certain.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:42 PM
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Why would an accusation of cheating be the only think not ok? “I want you to have my children, but I think you’re the type of person who might cheat on me, so I’ll need paternity tests” would not be ok with me. I wouldn’t want to trust my health, future, and children to someone who didn’t trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:27 PM
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Of course? An accusation is about a something that may have occurred, not something that might happen in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:22 PM
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If I’m saying you “could” possibly do something, it’s literally not an accusation by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:20 PM
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Accusing the guy who sexually assaulted me?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:17 PM
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You’re saying I’m accusing someone of being a rapist for sexually assaulting me on a first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:17 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:13 PM
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Then I won’t go on a second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:12 PM
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Because I have no idea whether someone is a great guy or a terrible guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:11 PM
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“I don’t know you” is an accusation? “I don’t know whether you’re a rapist or not” is an accusation? Maybe you don’t know what accusation means.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:07 PM
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Glad you think the top comment is great, because that’s also me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:05 PM
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Who said they’re not a rapist? I have no idea if some random guy is or isn’t a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:02 PM
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You: “Change my view” Also you: “Why are people talking to me”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:00 PM
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No, it’s saying I don’t trust a stranger not to be a rapist. “I don’t know this stranger” =/= “I know this stranger is a rapist.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:59 PM
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Cooking fish is a mitigation strategy. You don’t understand that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:57 PM
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Sorry, are you saying the date analogy is throughout a relationship? You think there are a lot of women only seeing their long-term boyfriends in public because they’re worried about being raped by them in private?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:55 PM
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You can't avoid ALL risks in life, if there are risks you can mitigate, then you should So you’d agree that no one should play football, ride motorcycles, eat sushi, drink alcohol…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:52 PM
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If a woman believes that asking for a paternity test is an accusation of cheating, then the same women should never propose to a man a date in public considering it is incredibly rude to accused someone of being a sex offender/rapist. The idea is that you don’t trust a stranger until you get to know them and build trust. You’re equating trusting a stranger with trusting a wife, implying that a man has proposed and impregnated a woman even though they have not built any trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:49 PM
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a NON-ZERO chance of happening. And thus, everyone should get a test to make it a ZERO percent chance, even if in reality the chance of the child not being yours is probably 0.01%. Anyone this risk averse would not be in a committed relationship or have a kid at all. If you’re only this risk averse in this particular area of life, explain why.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:44 PM
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State Assisted Suicide… “4.2 Gender, Average Age and Age Range of Individuals Who Received MAID In 2021, across Canada, a greater proportion of men (52.3%) than women (47.7%) received MAID. This result is consistent with 2020 (51.9% men vs 48.1% of women) and 2019 (50.9% men vs 49.1% women)” Did you read any of your sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:13 PM
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“In men, [depression] manifests often as tiredness, irritability, and anger. They may show more reckless behavior and abuse drugs and alcohol. They also tend to not recognize that they are depressed and fail to seek help.” “Lower levels of formal labor market participation, lower wages, the unequal burden of care work and women’s longer life expectancies lead to more economic insecurity among women than men in old age.” Women always screwing up. Recognizing their mental health issues and seeking…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:07 PM
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Most well-adjusted middle-class people “want” relationships and kids only under specific conditions, because they’re also fine without those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:39 PM
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A medical test forced by the government? Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 02:13 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:55 AM
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Faulty premise. I believe, take the same dude 2 times, same looks, same personality, everything is the same. Just one dude is a goal chaser and the other is a chiller. This IS a personality difference. You can’t separate out someone’s level of ambition from their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:37 AM
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Invest in general social skills and friendship. If you’re unable to make conversation with a stranger, you’re probably not going to do well on a date. If you’re unable to maintain a healthy friendship, you’re probably not going to be able to maintain a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:17 PM
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Women often pick men because they know that they don't have other options. Where are you getting this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:34 PM
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In my experience, more attractive people have more experience rejecting people setting boundaries. The guys who were never in demand are the ones who don’t know how to handle situations. Also, they may never have “chosen” you, and may have gotten into a relationship out of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:33 PM
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The reasons have nothing to do with the child's life. You are wrong. Being in a relationship with damaged trust is one thing, when the only people impacted are two adults who choose it. Raising a child in that environment is another thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:41 PM
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Not married!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:39 PM
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Health care benefits, social security benefits, military retirement benefits…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:04 PM
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Then you wouldn’t sign the birth certificate. Paternity would be established by the court.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:50 PM
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If you don’t trust a woman, do not impregnate her!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:54 PM
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So why is it relevant that these men aren’t aggressive towards you?? You aren’t a romantic prospect who is rejecting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:50 AM
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You’re dating these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:40 AM
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Why “should” they though? Why is someone’s self-improvement the responsibility of a near-stranger? I understand how it is nice and helpful. I don’t understand why it’s a responsibility. If women actually thought this was a responsibility, they would be even pickier, turning down first dates with anyone they weren’t already comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:03 AM
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We’re well aware that women are more likely to be murdered by a boyfriend or spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:56 PM
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This is not a “female friend” issue. I’m a woman with a lot of female friends. I’ve never said this, and none of the women I’ve chosen to be friends with have said this. A small subsection if women believe this is a big issue and interpret their experiences this way. You are choosing to be friends with these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:36 PM
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Your post does not match your title. Someone complimenting your t-shirt isn’t a “friendship bond.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:43 PM
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Would 1mm be worth any less in retirement? 800k? You’re asking me if $1 million or $800k is less that $1.2 million….
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:50 AM
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you're making arguments that have nothing to do with what the article actually said. Of course I am, because I’m responding to your claims that have nothing to do with what the article actually said. An average difference of $4,000 does not imply a standard difference $4,000 per year starting at age 21, which is the basis of your argument,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:34 AM
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What is YOUR point? Because if men aren’t consistently saving $4,000 a year more from age 21, that missing $4,000 doesn’t add up to the retirement amount you claim. And all evidence suggests that no one is saving $4,000 at age 21, when they’re barely working. If the $4,000 doesn’t start at 21, the compound interest doesn’t start at 21, and your equation is trashed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:58 AM
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Exactly. You didn’t understand that the $4,000 is a reference to the source linked in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:41 PM
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I think you have severely misunderstood what the $4,000 is an average of.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:35 PM
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Less that 40% of 21 year-olds have a full-time job.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:11 PM
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Lol, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:46 PM
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Did you not read the article? Or are you unable to understand it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:45 PM
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New study shows that 5% of men sleep with 66% of young women. Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:30 PM
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more capable to create a stronger bond, to fight more for the relationship, to give more. That's based on my past experience. But… all your relationships ended…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:27 AM
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Just as much as what? You think OP is defending men’s bad behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:30 PM
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Let’s say a woman becomes so embittered that she despises and distrusts all men, am I supposed to just agree with her thesis or should I not state Why would you need to say anything? She’s not even expressing a “thesis.” “I was bitten by a pit bull, so now I don’t like dogs,” is not a thesis about whether all dogs bite. It doesn’t require your opinion. Her attitude of generalised contempt will guarantee that she will never have another healthy relationship with a man Her bad experiences did that…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:35 PM
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Her attitude of generalised contempt will guarantee that she will never have another healthy relationship with a man then she’s setting herself up for loneliness and perpetual dissatisfaction. Let’s say I am attacked by a pit bull. The attack leaves me traumatized and afraid of dogs. I never enjoy being around dogs again. Hearing that there are good dogs doesn’t make me capable of having a healthy relationship with a dog. Not having a dog as a pet isn’t missing out, because I don’t enjoy being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:32 PM
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Lol. I can recognize them from their behavior and actions! But also… I can recognize them from a photo! You should really ask yourself why you need to believe you’re so good at this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:14 PM
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You’re proving the point. Because you’ve never had a false positive, you incorrectly assume you’ve never had a false negative, with no basis. Everyone I think is a druggie is a druggie =/= Everyone I think is NOT a druggie is NOT a druggie. Every woman I think is a lesbian is a lesbian =/= Every woman I think is straight is straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:49 PM
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You’re not answering my question. How do you know they ALL “smell?” This is so naive. Everyone can recognize people who do drugs. It’s hubris to think you can recognize ALL people who do drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:56 PM
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But why do you believe that all men who rape women act like it? I’ve heard some men talk about shoplifting. I would never assume that all men who shoplift talk about shoplifting. I would not assume I knew who was a shoplifter just because some shoplifters were so obvious. So why did you come to the conclusion that because some rapists are obvious, all of them are?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:06 PM
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How could you possibly know that the men who seem off to you are the men who have raped women??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 07:35 AM
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the only ones who truly benefit, meaning whom gets to have all their desires met When have most people gotten all of their desires met.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 06:15 PM
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It’s disadvantageous to accept a coffee date =/= it was “disrespectful” to offer a coffee date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 09:45 AM
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What does this have to do with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:10 AM
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TikTok is not representative. But there are certainly a lot of young women who saw their mothers working full-time AND doing the majority of parenting/housework, who do not want to repeat the pattern. If women don’t feel confident that men will pull their weight in the “feminine” realm, their going to expect them to show up in the “masculine” realm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:02 AM
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That’s not an answer to the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:55 PM
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Oh cool, how did you find out what everyone’s body count is without believing anything anyone self-reported?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:48 PM
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Yep, I’m lucky enough to be able to read the post and this comment thread, and understand what they are about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:46 PM
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Then you have no clue what the average body count is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:26 PM
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Show us research that says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:22 PM
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So, not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:21 PM
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Again, how is that relevant to this post or conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:13 PM
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How is that relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:06 PM
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Let's say you're right that most people still are not leaving high school as virgins I never said anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:06 PM
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And this has absolutely no relevance to the data point you are trying to refute. Let’s say everyone in a random high school loses their virginity in senior year. 0% of kids would finish that high school as virgins AND over 75% of kids in that high school would be virgins. You are incorrectly using the second stat to try to disprove the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:16 PM
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Are you discussing FINISHING high school as a virgin, or switching the discussion to high schoolers being virgins? Because those are two very different stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:56 PM
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no feminism crap „i dont need a man“ bullshit, and more on the „i believe a man and women loving each other is beautiful.“ Extremely weird that you think these are opposites or mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:50 AM
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My question had nothing to do with whether insecurity HAS VALUE (is good/bad). My question was about whether insecurity is A VALUE (important principle) of OPs, and what that means to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:30 AM
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YOU said your insecurities are a value to you because they allow for growth and development. I am asking what YOU meant. You refuse to tell me, but have decided to make unrelated accusations because of something you’ve imagined in your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:20 PM
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What the fuck? I worded my question clearly, repeatedly. Answer it or don’t, but don’t make shit up about what I want you to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:10 PM
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Hope you experience a ton of growth and development from this insecurity…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:05 PM
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What does that have to do with growth and development?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:55 PM
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You’re talking about dumping someone because you’re insecure and don’t want to sacrifice your “value” of insecurity… and that helps you grow and develop how?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:01 PM
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You consider insecurity to be a value?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:44 PM
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If you enjoy having sex with young men, have at it! I’ve always found it disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:56 PM
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What is this relevant to? Sex isn’t a reward for “primeness.” Relationships aren’t a reward for “primeness.” Of the men I’ve had sex with and dated, the men most “in their prime” have been the worst in bed and in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:44 PM
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It's zero criticism, zero debate, zero confrontation, In your mind, it would be normal for a hair stylist to criticize her client or get into a debate with her? It would be normal to have a confrontation with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:30 AM
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What would be best for me would be fewer people telling me to what to do based on completely irrelevant info.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:25 PM
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You just made a post telling over 50% of the world’s population what is best for them. It’s nice that you now acknowledge that other people might have strategies that work too, but that doesn’t make your post less gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:58 AM
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I don’t find men very interesting overall. So why would this advice be relevant to women who like men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:21 AM
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I’ve tried causally dating men who I knew nothing about first and I found those men are far more insufferable, boring and unlikeable. Er, so what? Obviously your friends are people you found likable and interesting… that’s how you became friends with them. Being friends with them is not what made them likable and interesting. If I said, “I’m looking for a massage therapist that’s likable and trustworthy.” No one would say, “you should only get massages by someone you’ve been friends with for yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:15 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:43 AM
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to hold her gently for the kiss Kissing is cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:34 AM
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What are you attempting to do here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:25 AM
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Nobody taught me to read a woman's body language Body language varies by culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:13 AM
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I’m well aware that some people think dating is a competition, to the point that they’ll settle for terrible partners they don’t even like just to avoid feeling like a “loser” because they have no internal sense of self-worth. And I’m well aware they’ll call others losers to feel better about the choice they made.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:12 AM
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Whoosh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:07 AM
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These are reasons to break up or not, but not because of his past. I’m not going to be OK having bad sex for the rest of my life just because his ex-wife also had bad sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:37 AM
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You should probably ask people who use those terms in this context? As far as I can tell, those people typically do it because of personal issues with insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:20 AM
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Eh, I don’t find this kind of framing is very useful. Asian men and black women are less popular on dating apps, but I don’t think that’s a reason to think they are “losers” if they don’t find a partner within a racist society. A lot of terrible people get married all the time. There are more marriages that I’d consider a living hell than marriages I’d consider prizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:50 AM
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Because it’s not inherently a competition. There are people that choose to behave as if it’s a competition. It’s like jogging down a path. One person could decide they’re racing another person. But that’s not what makes it a race.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:33 PM
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Why “evolutionary?”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:06 PM
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But to the point of the post, a lot of people won’t “admit” that they’re in a competition because they are choosing not to be in a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:52 PM
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I’m not talking about my perception of fit. I wouldn’t even put any thought into who is a better fit for another person I liked. That’s his job. If I think a woman is terrible, but that’s who my crush feels is the best fit, best of luck to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:40 PM
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If I like someone, but there’s another person they know who would be a better fit for them, I wouldn’t want to “win” the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:35 PM
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So how did you decide they’re having “such success,” as opposed to minimal success?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:34 PM
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with such success? Meaning what? Are you looking at data about their success rate, out of who they message? The total number of women scammed? The total amount of money?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:50 PM
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I’m literally still focused on understanding the words in your title! I don’t think we enjoy “healthy” competition at the gym, because I don’t think we’re competing for anything… you are telling me we’re competing for something. Most women I know see going to the gym like going to the grocery store. If someone told me I was sabotaging my direct competition in the produce aisle by focusing on my grocery list, I’d be just as confused as I am now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:53 PM
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Please explain how the women on the next treadmill is my “direct competition” for longevity. If she succeeds in living longer… do I die sooner?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:38 PM
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You edited your comment to be about your fiancée’s workplace. I have only asked you about the gym and YOUR observations about it. What are the women you see at the gym “competing for” in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:30 PM
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Direct competition? Competition for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:26 PM
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So you personally think this is “sabotage” or not? Again, I’m 100% genuinely confused at how anyone could describe any of this behavior as sabotage, which you seem to be doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:22 PM
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I’m totally lost with this post. I’m not just responding to your bullet… but your title and first sentence. So, did YOU see women sabotage other women at the gym today or not? “My girlfriend thinks women sabotage each other” is totally different than “I saw women sabotage each other this morning.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:14 PM
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? I’m genuinely asking. I’ve spent a lot of time in the gym, and I’ve never seen a woman try to “sabotage” their “competition,” and don’t understand why wanting to work out in silence is being interpreted that way by you. Women are way more likely to spend their time with young kids and customer service roles, and way more likely to see their workout time as an escape from meeting other people’s needs, including emotional needs. Doing cardio without taking care of other people can be critical to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:05 PM
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So wanting to workout alone is “sabotage?” Don’t more women at the gym do cardio and things that don’t need spotting?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:52 PM
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Wait, what in the world did you “observe” in the gym that showed any of this? What actual behavior did you see? Women feel threatened by their competition (more attractive, successful, feminine women) Women feel threatened by more successful women Women root against other women Women have close friendships, but generally don’t like to bring new women into their social circle Women in the workplace distance themselves from other women, or form shallow relationships but don’t favor one another
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:45 PM
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but speed it up I suppose. What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:13 AM
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An AI boyfriend to do what? I can’t imagine anything I’d want from an AI boyfriend that I couldn’t get from a friend or family member.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:20 AM
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How to approach, what to say, how to sell yourself, etc. I understand that. I’m asking for specifics. Give me one single example of a time your buddies huddled together to strategize after seeing a woman across the room. What was the result? What approach? What to say? How to sell himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:10 AM
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Most women don’t use OLD much or for long, so it sounds like you’re traveling in a particular kind of crowd. None of my female friends in their 30s are going through those patterns. Almost all my friends became noticeably more confident in the 30s, not more insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:07 AM
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Great, give me an example of the strategy someone might develop with his buddies
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:47 PM
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it's in your best interest to preempt that outcome by making your move before he either notices or initiates, because then you'd still be giving him less time to rehearse and prepare. Sorry, you’re saying a guy I see at a party who then notices me has too much time to prepare and REHEARSE before asking me out at that party? You have a wild interpretation of what happens in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:36 PM
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But any situation where I notice him first, the initiating does not provide the benefit you described. The reason you said I should initiate does not apply to any of these situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:54 PM
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Personally, I prefer dating men who are into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:37 PM
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Right, so I want to be clear I know when this is relevant: Online dating: men already on their bullshit? Any man who noticed me first: already on his bullshit Any man I noticed first: does not matter who initiates So… in what situation is this relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:36 PM
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But what if I notice him first, observe him, and then he makes a move on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:24 PM
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Care about what? You’re saying that the people who make the first move don’t get misled. Men usually make the first move now. So men are good at picking trustworthy women? They don’t get misled by them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:14 PM
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I really don’t understand what kind of situations you guys are imagining here. Let’s say I meet a guy at a party. Maybe I ask him out. Maybe he asks me out. How does that change what he wore to the party? How does that change how he acted before the move?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:09 PM
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So men are not fooled or misled by women they make the first move on? They know who is trustworthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:06 PM
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I’m not following. How am I suddenly able to see through a man’s bullshit just because I asked him out, instead of him asking me out?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:01 PM
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How does making the first move prevent being mislead?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:29 PM
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One person =/= an epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:18 PM
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If there’s a dating issue, it’s part of a larger socialization issue. Covid changed the size of peoples social circles, made people socially anxious, and limited our chance encounters going forward (remote work, etc). I’m sure someone could make a similar post about how it’s harder to get to know coworkers or make friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:52 PM
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You have a lot of experience on getting YOUR sexual needs met. You don’t have much experience communicating with an equal partner or meeting a woman’s needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:23 AM
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and how this behavior could rightfully be viewed negatively. Again, she is not responsible for HIS views. isn't the same as admitting responsibility that his actions caused the pipe to break in the first place. Being incompatible with someone because of their secret preferences is not committing an act of destruction. Trying to fix an issue is not the same as owning that your actions caused the issue in the first place. This doesn’t relate at all. This is like someone proposing to me and me dump…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:31 AM
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But literally the only reason I would say such a thing is with an intent to make men feel bad. Usually the reason people are “offended” by things like this is because they’re aware that someone is actively trying to insult/irritate them, which is the offensive part, not the content. If I ran around the office saying, “You’re all going to die!” I would get reported to HR, and not because anyone thought they were immortal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:50 PM
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But you just had an entire exchange acknowledging that overweight “unattractive” women can have sex, relationships, kids, etc… If you believe that… what is the thing she would learn that would stop her from “deflecting” or “blaming” men for? What would she “own up to?”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:52 PM
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But if the “facts” are not useful or valuable for the real world… why would a woman go to a forum to hear about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:29 PM
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the woman above is saying the 300 pound whale is succeeding because she is attractive Literally not what she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:25 PM
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But it would not be weird to say men are generally attracted to younger more attractive woman by nature. In what possible situation is that NOT a weird thing to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:22 PM
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Every guy is doing that. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:14 PM
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Because there’s no reason to say any of these things other than to be antagonistic. I could scream, “most women would be more physically attracted to Ryan Gosling than the men they are actually dating and marrying” and it would be true. But in what context is that interesting or useful information? None. Well-adjusted people are gonna date and marry regardless of whether I tell them how hot Ryan Gosling is. It’s just not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:13 PM
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If women were never into you, there’s nothing to “turn off.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:06 PM
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There are actually quite a few other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:03 PM
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for most people others never change Wise words.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:33 PM
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Every time someone makes a post asking, “hey guys, what would you do if a woman made the first move?” A ton of guys respond and say, “I’d be thrilled! I’d give her a chance even if I otherwise wouldn’t be interested.” That’s exactly what many women are trying to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:30 PM
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I tought you were in your 30s if you are almost 50 then I have nothing to say, that’s uncharted territory Nope. Women have actually been turning 40 and 50 for quite some time! If you mean you have no relevant person experience to draw on, that’s no different than if I were in my 30s. hope you have kids My gynecologist and I have done a lot to ensure that I won’t, thank goodness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:11 PM
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Thanks for keeping the gag going. I’m in the best relationship I’ve ever had, and I met him after I turned 40. The losers I dumped in my 20s are either still losers (many partnered to unlucky women), or divorced from the women who helped them get their shit together. Even if I become single again tomorrow, I won’t have any regrets about those fellas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:55 PM
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But few are willing to even acknowledge such men are not always born, but could also be created. It's better to wait for finished one or complain they don't exist. I guess it’s not “personal” when you question what’s better for half the population, it’s only “personal” when one of them speaks for themselves. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:34 PM
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Old enough that men’s veiled threats that I’ll end up alone if I don’t date losers are fucking hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:25 PM
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Oh, so they didn’t have a choice not to build modern society to provide for their families… unless they didn’t work or provide for their families. That clears it all up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:21 PM
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You are free to not want men like him and wait for perfect man, I just hope there is enough of them. People just have to take everything personally. Lololol You likely aren't even in the same country so how could you? You think men like your friend only exist in your country? I guarantee there are a bunch of underemployed stoners living with their mommies in my country too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:18 PM
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Oh, every single man who got married and had a baby built modern society? Because they had no choice? That’s a take.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:15 PM
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I had a great life while I was single and “waiting,” and an even better one now. I’m eternally grateful I wasn’t dating someone like your friend when I met my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:13 PM
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“Of course” the only people allowed to “build society” built society =/= men built society because they were inspired by having families 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:11 PM
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Yes, there are risks both ways. A women could date a “loser,” and he could change for the better, or he stay the same or change for the worse. A women could choose not to date the “loser,” and end up with someone who has demonstrated similar values and priorities, or she could stay single. Most single women I know have tried to date the loser hoping for the best, and in the end, wished they had stayed single instead. So they’ve decided they’d rather risk being single than risk dating someone who…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:09 PM
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1) That is not THE alternative. Plenty of women have taken a chance on a man who has zero interest in being productive, to watch him stay exactly the same in a relationship. 2) If she got into a wonderful relationship with someone else, she would not have missed out on anything. Your friend’s girlfriend may have met another man she liked just as much who didn’t live at his parents house.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:57 PM
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Women literally weren’t allowed to have most of the kinds of jobs that “built modern civilization” until recently. Of course the majority were men. Everyone faced enormous pressure to get married, and birth control did not exist. Of course most of those men were married with kids. Absolutely none of this speaks to cause and effect, or motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:35 PM
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I’ll rephrase. I can’t imagine falling in love with anyone (or being compatible with anyone) who had so little internal motivation as your friend, or the millions of other men underemployed stoners who live in their parents basements. I didn’t need the expectations of a boyfriend to convince me to contribute to society or want experiences off of my parents couch.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:30 PM
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He used to be a total stoner, lived with his parents, had a mediocre job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:10 PM
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Alan Turing. Basically every gay man before the 1990s who made significant contributions to society, of which there were many.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:09 PM
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Yeah, and I think there’s a huge difference between “This person and I would not be a good fit for a long-term relationship, but I bet we could have some fun together,” and “I don’t really like them, but would fuck them.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:03 PM
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Creepy behavior is escalating when there isn’t reciprocity. There’s less opportunity to have creepy behavior if others are usually reciprocating. But it’s still the behavior that makes it creepy. If Henry Cavill started mass texting sweet nothings to a straight dude without welcome, it would be creepy. If Henry Cavill started mass texted sweet nothings to a married woman without welcome, it would be creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:00 PM
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Again, what does this have to do with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:50 PM
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It’s pretty easy to Google and learn that men are not the breadwinners in 100% of marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:47 PM
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How does this relate to my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:37 PM
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And he can work less hard. I know multiple men who quit their jobs after getting married, to the objection of their spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:15 PM
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But you are pretending that women do not evaluate a man’s work when choosing who to date, marry, or have kids with. That is false. Edit to add: It is true that women also fall for men who don’t work hard. But they often dump these lazy guys. So they end up in your group of single men who don’t work hard, but not because they never had a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:05 PM
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I can’t imagine falling in love with, or being compatible with, a man who has no internal motivation and would choose to waste his one short life on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:00 PM
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The women I know who prioritized marriage and children did not consider dating men who did not work hard. Most women looking for a provider have expectations around career from day 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:56 PM
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some women would make you think the average woman today is being harassed whenever she leaves her apartment. What zoomers do isn’t the deciding factor of whether women are harassed in public. Since I became a teenager, I’ve been harassed by men from their teens to their 80s. “Dirty old man” is a cliche for a reason. Young men could stop talking to women entirely, completely disappear off the planet, and young women will still experience harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:52 PM
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Where are you getting that she didn’t take responsibility for her behavior? She’s literally the person who proposed an exclusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:10 PM
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She should take responsibility that many people who want relationships will not find it attractive Responsibility?!? I have no idea what you imagine that word means. No, she does need to take “responsibility” for anyone else’s relationship preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:12 AM
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The context is that you went out on a second date with someone who wasn’t your girlfriend and fucked her. That’s the context in which the sex occurred.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:46 PM
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Sex on the second date is readily. Sex without a relationship is casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:34 PM
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If you fucked someone you barely knew without having any relationship discussion, but don’t think it was casual because you were looking for a relationship.., you’re the one being dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:33 PM
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Of course. You had casual sex with someone on a second date. She could have declined the third dates. The sex doesn’t become retroactively serious because she didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:57 PM
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Having sex with randos on first dates with zero discussion about relationship expectations is basically the definition of philandering.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:51 PM
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And if I find out a sexual partner is screwing other people, they don't get to decide whether I stick around. Lol, yeah, that sounds like a great plan. Do like this guy, and fuck women on the first date, keep fucking them without making them your girlfriend, then act surprised when no one else takes sex as seriously as you! Then dump them and move on to fucking the next girl. Continue to complain about women wanting to fuck so many people! Definitely better than setting and communicating a bound…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:34 PM
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No, you have decided that sexually exclusivity is a super special unique thing that someone gets to randomly and unilaterally decide for another person without their agreement or consent, and then throw a fit when other people don’t live up to their imaginary rules. It’s not. The same way you don’t get to decide that someone will have sex with you, you don’t get to decide that they’re you’re girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:50 PM
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But the girl is equally responsible for not disclosing, and then finding out later (to her dismay) that it was a deal breaker. Of course she’s not responsible for his unspoken expectations or emotions around it!!! Let’s say my boyfriend believes that women in relationships should not spend time with other men, but doesn’t tell me that. I’m not “responsible” for disclosing that I went on a coffee run with a male work colleague. I’m not “responsible” for his reaction. His freak out does not mean t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:12 PM
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That’s an unfounded assumption on your part. If someone chooses to go into a steak restaurant, they’re responsible for the fact that they’re going to be around steaks. If someone chooses to date without an agreement to exclusivity, they’re responsible for the fact that they’re dating without an agreement to exclusivity. If someone walks into a streak restaurant with me, I put zero thought into whether they’re “OK” being there. They chose to be there. There are things I will not do with another p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:49 PM
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In the same way he assumed that they wouldn't/shouldn't be entertaining multiple sexual partners simultaneously, she assumed that they would/should (and that doing so without full disclosure wouldn't be a big deal). Incorrect. He is the only one making an assumption about another person instead of communicating. She is not assuming they haven’t made a commitment to exclusivity. She knows that. That doesn’t mean she’s assuming anything about his behavior. Dating someone without a commitment to ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:27 PM
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When was the last time your husband cleaned the house and made it spotless?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:07 PM
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You misread their comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:09 PM
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Because if she has to literally force herself to ignore the fact that she’s subconsciously and emotionally and hormonally and mentally not aroused or attracted to you Lol, no one needs to set standards to make sure they’re aroused by a partner. Standards are largely to make sure you don’t date people you are just aroused by.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:58 PM
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How is a person who chooses long-term partners for materialistic reasons different than a person who chooses these short-term partners? “extremely attractive women (e.g. models, athletes, actresses, etc)”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:10 AM
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In "regular situations," how is a woman meant to know what substances a man has or hasn't consumed? Or if he's mentally ill?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:55 AM
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What part of your post excludes interactions in bars or (checks notes) restaurants...?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:42 AM
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Obviously in examples of mental inhibition it’s good to be on the defensive. What are you attempting to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:35 AM
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Everything guys here complain about women doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:48 PM
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When I was on Tinder, I was constantly seeing the profiles of men I had crossed paths with in real life. In so many instances, I could not believe the shitty photos they used or dumb incomplete bios they posted! It was very clear to me that they could have presented themselves in a much more appealing way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:47 AM
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If you can’t figure out that this study says absolutely nothing about attraction… you probably had a lot of poorly thought out drunken bad sex in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:19 PM
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Obviously everyone should manage their expectations of something that requires another person to change their body for 9 months (up to the rest of their life)! But decreasing male fertility is probably going to have the bigger impact here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:36 PM
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Going to college does not increase your chances of being sexually assaulted. Young women who do not go to college are sexually assaulted at the same (or slightly higher) rates than women in college. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a huge problem, just that staying away from campus doesn’t fix the problem. But also, the vast majority of women in college never set foot in a frat party, so that’s a weird thing to focus on. There are plenty of other ways to socialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 01:11 PM
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Doesn’t the generation that married before that have the highest divorce rates in history? What metric tells you that things were less fucked up before the 2000s?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:28 AM
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It is common now for girls to share a guy. I overheard That’s not how facts work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:26 AM
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Workplace romances happen all the time. But like every other type of romance, the cost-benefit analysis has shifted. Women do not need to be in romantic relationships anymore, so they are more picky about who they get into relationships with…. especially when it can affect your career.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:13 AM
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Just look at this sub. Why in the world would you imagine that this sub is where women would post their dating complaints?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:04 PM
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If we assume that men don't love women as much, it goes against certain widely cited statistics on impact of breakups and divorces on men. There’s a huge difference between loving a person and hating a lack of access to sex and companionship. My ex-boyfriends who have been the most miserable after our breakups were often the ones who were the most unkind and uncaring during the relationship. Disliking being single is not a measure of having loved your ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:38 AM
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Most men don’t want to hear it but I think the dude would assume she’s an honest person if she’s admitting to him that she has a past to him. A “past” as opposed to what? Being a virgin? Never having had casual sex? Having less than an arbitrary number of partners? If a man doesn’t articulate his assumptions or ask for information, how is a woman supposed to know what to “admit” to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:28 AM
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Preach. Plenty of ugly men string women along. Plenty of ugly men have affairs. Plenty of ugly men treat their partners abominably.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:58 AM
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How is posting your own life on your own social media account “shoving it in everyone’s faces?”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:07 AM
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What demographic kills themselves the most?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 09:09 PM
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How is posting your own life on your own social media account “shoving it in people’s faces?”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 09:08 PM
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are we ready to abandon traditional dating practices? Why in the world would it make sense for people who want other kinds of relationships?? If a man wants to date a woman significantly younger than him (who hasn’t achieved as much professionally because of age) why would 50/50 make sense? If a man wants a partner to be a homemaker, why would he pursue women who can pay 50/50 instead of someone with the qualities he’s actually looking for? If one person makes a ton of money and loves fine dinin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:46 AM
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I’m starting to see the first wave of attractive hit forty Lol. “I never noticed this before, so it must be the first time it’s happed.” Main character syndrome turned up to 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:51 PM
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1) People aren't that unique or different from each other when you filter for region and culture. For example, if you live in Soho in Manhattan and feel comfortable where you live, the people around you share a lot in common with you. Not in all the ways that impact relationship satisfaction. Living in Soho vs. rural Texas doesn’t reflect your libido, your introversion/extroversion, your communication style, you’re in inclination to be optimistic/pessimistic, your ability to regulate emotions li…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:05 PM
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an emotion like sadness trends to hit women harder Suicide rates might disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:57 PM
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Testosterone doesn’t make men feel emotions?? Men go through a hormonal cycle every 24 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:56 PM
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To even have a single person in this world that cares about your life is something that not everyone has. And there are 4 billion men on the planet who could completely solve this problem. This isn't even about men supporting other men. Of course it is. Men do not think this problem is worth solving. Men will not bother to change their behavior to change it. That tells me everything about how much effort I should make.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:02 PM
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Are you under the impression that women don’t have degrees, jobs, or own houses?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:54 PM
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Which men? Do I think 20 year old men compete against 70 year old men? Do I think carpenters compete against doctors? No. Yet they are unable to show each the smallest kindness to each other, according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:25 PM
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That kind attitude seems like a good reason for everyone to keep their distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:36 PM
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Yes, you hit on women because you believe it results in the best outcomes for you. Women don’t hit on men because they don’t believe it results in good outcomes for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:34 PM
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Who is making anyone do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:27 PM
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Nobody looks at you, nobody talks to you, nobody has a smile or a kind word. Nobody sees any value in you, Men are about half the population. Why do you think men don’t see value in each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:26 PM
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Nope. Guys who don’t put in much effort at the beginning are usually the ones who don’t treat you well later. Women who put in effort at the beginning usually learn it doesn’t go well for them, and stop doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:24 PM
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The standards are higher. Ok, maybe not absolute perfection but they're much higher. Doesn’t that make sense to you? Women used to not be able to support themselves as single women. Now they can. Standards used to be lower because being single used to be worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:45 PM
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Hahahaha, OK. That’s a take, I guess!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:05 PM
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And I still don’t know where you are getting the idea that these are the new “standards.” More people choosing to be single doesn’t mean that most of them are choosing it because they can’t find perfection or because they’re unwilling to make any compromises.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:50 PM
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How many times have we heard of women claiming to have vaginismus, only for them to discover that it was only with the previous guy they were with? Never. Has this happened to you a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:11 PM
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Women (and by extension, men) would be a helluva lot happier if they'd just get out of their own ways and give a decent guy a chance. Extremely telling that you can only actually describe how men are worse off now that it’s easy for women to leave. Meanwhile, the poor bastard of a boyfriend is stuck with complete emotional whiplash Instead, he's stuck lonely and miserable, likely for 6 months or longer, while his ex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:01 PM
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The question is why has perfect checks all boxes become the standard? Don’t know where you’re getting that from. 75% of people get married by 40. More live with partners long-term. It’s not because they found perfection. Why are so many saying they'd rather be single than compromise at all? Might be the people you are around. I know a lot of people who have chosen to be single in the short or long-term, and this isn’t why. I think I know one single person who feels this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 01:52 PM
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Who is denying reality? Most adults understand that getting anything in life that checks all your boxes and makes you happy is almost impossibly rare. Whether it’s a spouse and coparent, a job, a place to live, literally anything. People choose between imperfect options constantly. Some are able to be grateful for what they have, and the fact that they were able to make a choice. This isn’t just about relationships and wasn’t different before the sexual revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:54 PM
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Rape is a type of sexual assault, it is not a synonym of sexual assault. These are all unique metrics that are not interchangeable: Women commit X% of sexual assault against men. Women commit X% of rape against men. Women commit X% of rape against men where the man is made to penetrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:39 PM
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Women commit 80% of one type of rape against men =/= Women commit 80% of rape against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:31 PM
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Tell me what that has to do with the false statement you are making? Women committing 80% of one kind of rape doesn't mean women commit 80% of rape. I assume you agree that being fucked in the ass without consent is also rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:45 PM
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Most of them are yes. 80% of men who were raped report female perpetrators, Where is this in your source?!? “We also pooled four years of the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) data and found that 35 percent of male victims who experienced rape or sexual assault reported at least one female perpetrator.” This clearly says that a majority ONLY had male perpetrators, yes? “Over their lifetime, 79 percent of men who were “made to penetrate” someone else (a form of rape, in the view of most …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:44 AM
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The same reason most people develop friendships with people they went to school with, worked with, or interacted repeatedly with in a low pressure situation. When you have to schedule interactions with a stranger, every one is a decision point. You are constantly evaluating whether the connection is worth going out of your way to cultivate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:36 AM
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Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:00 PM
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I know independently wealthy people who have LinkedIn accounts, who apply for jobs, who apply for masters programs to qualify for better jobs. Being open to GOOD fulfilling opportunities =/= needing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:22 PM
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The women that OP is talking about are lonely. They want a relationship because they're lonely. The women OP is talking about know that you can be much lonelier in a relationship than out of one. That is why they value their standards more important than being in a relationship. The problem is that being independently wealthy isn't a qualification for the CEO position. No one imagined otherwise. This is not a problem, much less a reason to be a sanitation worker when you don't need a paycheck. a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:16 PM
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Where’s the conundrum? Everyone I know with high standards is well aware they may not find anyone to meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:05 PM
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you will see plenty of regular dudes with hotties That sounds like a fucked market.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:39 AM
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Note that I am strictly speaking about women who want relationships here. Because you are oversimplifying the motivation. Wanting a relationship is like wanting a new job, when you’re independently wealthy. You’re not going to apply to be a sanitation worker. People with life experience know the difference between wanting any relationship, and wanting a relationship that makes your life better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:34 AM
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Asking a woman her weight does not tell you her body fat percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:09 PM
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No idea what you are attempting to say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:48 PM
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But you can’t tell that from a photo of a person…?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:32 PM
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How? Women look vastly different at the same weight, depending on their height, muscle mass, and breast size.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:11 PM
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Better understanding compared to what? If if your goal is to find someone who demonstrates the same values as you by going to the gym 5 days a week, why wouldn’t you ask that?? Someone who weighs 120 could never set foot in a gym, and someone who weighs 190 could be lifting weights every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:09 PM
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Exactly. You saw this woman in person and knew her body type, but could not guess her weight within 25%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:02 PM
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Someone posts only face shots and you can't tell weight And two people can have the exact same weight, but different body types depending on their height, muscle mass, and boobs. Weight does not tell you the shape of their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:51 PM
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Because many people meet online, and photos don’t always give context for height. If someone is only attracted to people of a certain height, asking prevents wasted time for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:50 PM
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In what possible situation does it make any rational sense to ask someone their weight??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:42 PM
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You did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:04 PM
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What I’m missing is how you came to the conclusion that this is how men evolved to be. Many men provide for their kids when they actively dislike the kids mom, or even if she’s dead. Many men protect their communities, and even strangers, from threats. Men in India work together to flush out tigers from their towns. Not just men with wives, and not just from their personal home. Where did you get the idea that a man’s attraction to his wife is the deciding factor in whether he takes care of his …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:38 PM
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Today, most kids parents are not together. Are you under the impression that in hunter gatherer societies, people fought threats as a nuclear family?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:07 PM
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Evolution demands that people find their spouses attractive after their prime child birthing years??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:26 PM
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The majority of men are married by 30. If getting married by 30 = easy mode, the average guy is living it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 01:07 PM
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Many of them are not interested in dating at all, temporarily or indefinitely. Others are not interested in dating anyone they haven’t gotten to know/seen their interactions in multiple situations. I didn’t date strangers for a long time, and then only via dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:13 PM
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If a group of large strange men started following you, shouting at you, asking you how much money was in your wallet, would you love it? Would it be a confidence boost to know they wanted the money in your wallet?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:51 PM
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By what mechanism is a man prevented from having an emotion about abortion??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:15 PM
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can this be the reason why women hesitate to have sex with a guy that actually like so that they can spare themselves the heartbreak? I don’t really understand this question. Of course people weigh the potential benefits and risks when deciding whether/when to have sex with a person? What else would they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:53 PM
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You: I feel entitled to breathing air though. Also you: I don't feel entitled to clean air in a city. So you feel entitled to toxic air, but not clean air?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:17 PM
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So you feel entitled to it and you pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 09:25 PM
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So I would only pay to breathe air in places Are you saying that you do not pay taxes for the enforcement of air quality standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:33 PM
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Do you pay for food and water? Taxes for basic services and to ensure clean air?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:10 PM
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Yeah, reading an article citing a study is “observing evidence.” Totally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:11 PM
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Ah, and that’s you “noticing” something about a “particular type of Chad.” OK
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:52 PM
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I’ve noticed that most women tend to swipe on a particular type of chad on dating apps How did you personally “notice” this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:43 PM
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Tinder is not marketed as a hookup up and there is no consensus that it’s a hookup app.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:55 PM
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If a boundary is a genuine boundary, instead of an attempt at control and manipulation, it should be more about action than “expressing your feelings.” The reason these “boundaries” come across as “toxic,” is because they are statements of limits… but if it were actually your limit, you would have already left the relationship. If it’s against your boundaries to be in a relationship with someone who does x, y, and z… how did you start a relationship with someone who does x, y, and z? And why are…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:44 PM
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I’m saying I don’t risk interacting with men unless I think there are benefits. Because it’s always risky, but there aren’t always benefits. If I don’t know anything about the man’s personality and he’s not very attractive, it is not worth the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:16 PM
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It is true that most men are not physically attractive enough to make me interested in them because of their looks alone. It does not mean they are unattractive. Just that looks don’t usually rate enough in the cost-benefit-analysis of risking time and safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:58 PM
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Divorce rates peaked in the 1980s. That’s the same “culture of marriage” that these old people lived in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:26 PM
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This interaction is a much more accurate example of what happens when I say anything about my dating experiences. Someone asked a straightforward question, I responded with a straightforward answer. I immediately got lectured about something that was literally in my original comment. Men act differently because of their dating prospects! I know dude. I literally said that specifically. It’s hilarious to always have men tell me how much everyone listens to women’s problems while demonstrating the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:35 PM
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I asked you about THIS PROBLEM. you are complaining about how much society has stepped up to solve this problem You are clearly the one living in your own echo chamber. You came to a post asking women about their choices and turned it into a soapbox for something else. If women complain men are staying with them despite the two not being a good fit, then it's a problem and men need to step up and do better so it doesn't affect women, but there's virtually no care or understanding given by societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:55 AM
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Again, you are complaining about how much society has stepped up to solve this problem for women, and only women. When? How? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:20 PM
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It's kind of ironic, because these issues that men face don't seem to matter to society until it affects women, and then we have to address that so women aren't affected, but there's basically no care or thought given to the fact that men are being affected by these issues in the first place. Sorry, how is this issue being “addressed” so no women are affected? I have no idea what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:57 PM
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When some are starved for affection and attention, something that is not a good fit is often better than nothing at all. Exactly my point. That’s why I don’t initiate with men. I'm just pointing out that when you pick people, it's up to you to pick those who are a best fit for you, and if they're not, to break up and move on. Exactly what I have always done. But obviously it sometimes took me a while to figure out that someone wasn’t a good fit because they were only dating me out of desperation…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:01 PM
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You kinda say this like it's easier for men to find a partner who is a good fit if they're the ones doing the asking. Which, if it was true, would make it even easier for you to pick the right one by asking men out. I’ve known a lot of men that say “yes” to invitations that aren’t a good fit for them. I don’t. It’s their lower standards when being asked that make asking more effective. Not the case for me. You're kind of pointing out that you are restricting your own agency here, both in picking…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:05 PM
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I used to take more initiative, but the result was finding myself in relationships with men who did not really want to be with me especially in the long-term, but were too afraid of being single in the short-term to break up with me (or be fully transparent). Because it’s generally harder for men to access sex and relationships, they are more likely to be responsive even when they know it isn’t a good fit (because they are looking for a different kind of partner, lifestyle, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:45 PM
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Who too?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:49 AM
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The vast majority of people like that were born into resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:55 PM
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The only way I’d find myself a housewife is if I were forced to be one. Of course that’s oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:16 PM
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Meant by whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:06 AM
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I’m finding it very enlightening that someone would describe self-control, boundaries, and social decorum as “playing games.” Of course you’re supposed to manage and keep private how much you desire a person you just met who might not be into you. Of course women are attracted to adults who don’t word vomit every feeling of sexual attraction towards a near-stranger. Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:38 AM
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men who are struggling to get their equivalent men simply want a girl equally or slightly less attractive than them Many men seem convinced relative attractiveness is what makes people equivalent partners. It is not. If I’m generally considered more attractive that 50% of women, a man generally considered more attractive than 50% of men is probably still more trouble than he’s worth. That 50% doesn’t mean the sex is going to be any good, or that he has a good personality, or that he isn’t irresp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:40 AM
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You literally just said it was. Easy to say from a privileged position, considering what having sex means: someone validates you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:00 PM
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How is that validating for the woman…?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:53 PM
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First… Reddit post with zero data about whether rapists are good-looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:31 PM
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Insecurity? Did you mean to reply to my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:04 PM
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Anger is an emotion, and a lot of men have trouble managing it. I know a lot more men who throw tantrums while driving than women upset about their dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:59 PM
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according to data, most rapists are actually attractive, masculine CHADS with multiple sexual partners. The fact that you believe this says a lot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:52 PM
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What is your explanation for WHY this is the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:00 PM
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You examine yourself to determine whether your friend is terrible at dating or isn’t attracted to your race? Dude. I’m done. This is too stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:04 AM
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That is literally the opposite of introspection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:01 AM
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Yes, rejecting a friend means you’re terrible at dating except when it doesn’t 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:55 AM
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I asked you specifically how many times you’ve seen it, and your response is “you see it all the time.” No I don’t, and I don’t believe you do either. the person who rejected them finds someone healthy and that’s that This disproves your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:48 AM
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Why do you believe this?? How many of people do you know who glowed up and dated friends? In the unusual case they were rejected, what happened to the person who rejected them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:40 AM
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I don’t need to believe in glow-ups. I’m a person in society, so I know people who already look the way people hope to look after a glow-up. And these hot people still get romantically rejected by friends. And those friends are still perfectly capable of dating, despite rejecting a hot friend! Rejecting a friend you don’t want to date or aren’t sexually attracted to doesn’t mean the friend hasn’t “glowed up” and doesn’t mean you are “terrible at dating/relationships.” Are you very young or socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:33 AM
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It's commonly accepted that, for instance, people aged 18-25 tend to be more attractive than people aged 25-40 (on average). Literally no.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:26 AM
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Wow, you didn’t do even a tiny bit of research before posting this garbage, did you? You couldn’t even bother to google “age men most attractive to women?”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:24 AM
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Such as what? You want me to prove the absence of data behind your completely unsubstantiated claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:18 AM
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And your thought process is that every single person is capable of physically “glowing up” in a way that every single other person capable of dating will be sexually attracted to them? And I’m sincerely asking you why in the world you would believe that! What possible experience or observations would suggest that?? You don’t know a single person in a relationship who rejected a conventionally good-looking friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:52 AM
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if you are good friends that’s already half the relationship equation Are your friendships and romantic relationships the same?? That’s wild. only thing left is the attraction part that you can reasonably fix if it’s a you issue Why do you think a lack of sexual attraction can be “fixed??” That’s wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:30 AM
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I still don’t understand. If someone rejects romantic partnership with someone they are not sexually attracted to, something is wrong with them? That’s your position? If one of your male friends asked you out, would you date them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:16 AM
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Then the only answer left if they still reject you later is it’s them, meaning your friend is terrible at dating/relationships. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:12 AM
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The Dutch government pays for this service (sex care) for people with severe disabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:54 PM
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How can you have a “grievance” against a stranger for not trying to make your dick hard? Incredibly bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:41 PM
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It's commonly accepted that, for instance, people aged 18-25 tend to be more attractive than people aged 25-40 (on average). There’s data to support those being the ages when women are most attractive to men. Not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:28 PM
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It’s almost as if some men are shallow and others are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:37 PM
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Weird perspective on an education.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:22 PM
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How do you explain men who have sex with women, but refuse to date or commit to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:07 PM
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understanding that a little modesty and less narcissism can be VERY attractive and sexy and that is lost on most modern women. It may be important TO YOU that women be as attractive and sexy TO YOU as possible. I very much doubt it’s very important to women. This is like giving someone unsolicited career advice to get a job no one said they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:21 PM
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Danny Masterson was convicted of forcible rape. Daily Mail: “One victim said Masterson spiked her drink, smothered her and then held her at gunpoint while he raped her. A second woman said Masterson admitted to having sex with her while she was unconscious. And a third woman said Masterson spiked her drink before assaulting her.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 01:02 AM
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Women generally deal with emotional crises by reaching out to others, while men generally deal with emotional crises by isolating themselves. Both methods work quite well. What metric tells you that both methods work well?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:48 AM
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Great, I don’t have a car at all, so I’ll take yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:45 PM
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I did not say enjoy. They may want it because it’s better than the potential alternatives, but that’s still a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:39 PM
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have a date or two, have sex . Keep seeing her for a month, then go out with a different women a few times, have sex. Repeat. Or, go out with a woman, see her for six months or a year, then meet another.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:29 PM
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This sounds like the difference between casual dating/relationships and casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:53 PM
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Haven’t men in exclusive relationships already found a woman they want a monogamous relationship with??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 04:29 PM
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If you lose skills of dating because you are partnered, that is another disadvantage. You should still be dating your exclusive partner, and you should still be making platonic friendships and other connections. A lot of skills built in long-term relationships and non-romantic social interactions are transferable to dating new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 04:26 PM
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So my standard is that I will only what with men who look like Chris Helmsworth? I’ll only sleep with men who look like Chris Helmsworth? Most men have sex, so I don’t think so. I’ll only date or marry men who look like Chris Helmsworth? Most men end up in a marriage or long-term partnership, so I don’t think so. I’ll only be attracted to men who look like Chris Helmsworth? There are many male movie stars and thirst traps that aren’t built anything like Chris Helmsworth, so I don’t think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 03:12 AM
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Oh no they do exist its just a long list sometimes varying. Women have a silent agreement to all have the exact same strict standards… it’s just that they vary? OK… Also you must live on a perfect planet then. I live on a perfect planet because I’m aware that of both men and women that have affair partners that are less conventionally attractive than their partner? OK… explain the volume and success of thirst traps on social media. No idea what you are confused about. They prefer lean bodies whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:11 PM
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The person a woman cheats with is always always more physically attractive than thier partner. You must live on a different planet than I do. Typically he lacks a ton of veins. He should get that checked out. By praising and lusting after a body obtained by steroids (an otherwise unmaintable physique naturally) you raise the standard of what is attractive. The post literally referenced a source that women DO NOT prefer muscular bodies. “the physiques women rated as most attractive are naturally …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:42 PM
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A silent agreement to do what? A lot of muscular guys have girlfriends and get married. A lot of skinny guys have girlfriends and get married. A lot of chubby guys have girlfriends and get married. How is this possible if women have a secret agreement that all of these guys fall below our strict standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:18 PM
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It made me think that money doesn't just increase your sex appeal for women but also the amount of respect you get from them as well to the point they'll become obedient to you. There are 4 billion women on the planet. You are talking about one. There are literally guys who pay money to have their balls shocked by car batteries. That doesn’t mean an average guy would get his balls shocked by a car battery if he found someone who would do it for an affordable price… There’s zero indication that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:59 AM
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I’m not understanding your argument here at all. What would this info do for anyone? Why would it be healthier?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:07 PM
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You’ve only got to know two objectively terrible women. This says something about you, but not much about any group of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:00 PM
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Maybe there’s another common denominator here besides issues and promiscuity…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:39 PM
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None of these bullet points have anything to do with women’s standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:24 PM
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Default decision without mutual decision = mutual decision is not required.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:48 PM
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For what? One no against abortion = ??? One no against birth = ???
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:42 PM
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it should be a mutual decision if the woman wants an abortion. Literally HOW? He wants her to abort, she doesn’t want to abort… what happens? She wants to abort, he doesn’t want her to abort… what happens? How do two people who disagree make a “mutual decision” that is enforceable in any way. do you think you should be able to veto it? What does “veto” have to do with a mutual decision??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:40 PM
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Tell me you don’t understand women’s anatomy without telling me you don’t understand women’s anatomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:25 PM
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Wanting something in a partner =/= feeling entitled to it. There are plenty of people with demanding careers who prefer to date people who are less ambitious, because they have the flexibility to take on more unpaid work (household management, picking the kids up from school) or the flexibility to help the high earner enjoy their wages (can go on vacation with less notice/join for work travel). People have different strengths, and there’s no reason not to look for a good fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:48 PM
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if I reflect upon what I would consider a good reason for a woman to choose me, this is the number one answer that I can think of. Everything else seems superficial compared to this. But what reasons did you have for choosing women? Did they explain how they’d be a good girlfriend or wife to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:07 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:26 PM
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You don’t know what “government incentive” means, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:18 PM
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They have to keep her on the team to meet company quotas... which come from government incentives. Please elaborate. What incentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:09 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:07 PM
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There are more obese people… They didn’t used to make many clothes for people over 6 feet tall, because almost no one was over 6 feet tall. Then there were more tall people who needed pants and were willing to pay money for pants. Did you skip Econ 101 or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:58 PM
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Fashion shows are intended to show clothes that people wear. On their bodies. The majority of people in the US have bodies that are overweight or obese. You know, the bodies they put clothes on. It’s very weird to ask “what it means for society” for advertising to consumers to show what the products are actually like…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:46 PM
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Knowing your son is dead is closure when it’s compared to your son being missing and not knowing whether it’s because he’s dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:25 PM
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…do you think disproportionate means all?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:08 AM
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So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:39 AM
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2 billion women GO TO WORK for money. You think they create nothing unless they have children. That is incredibly fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:34 AM
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Saying that women create nothing is aggressive ridicule of 4 billion people on the planet, besides being completely fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:28 AM
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Did you think the answer was zero? Jesus Christ, you have the internet. You should be able to figure out that there are women in engineering and the trades. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:25 AM
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You: Men create all the things You think women are 45%+ of the workforce and create NOTHING??? What. The. Fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:21 AM
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This makes no sense. They still dominate in the workforce and earning potential. In the US, over 45% of the paid work force is female, not counting the unpaid labor that women do in the home apart from childbirth. Men do not do all the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:16 AM
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When was dating not “broken,” and what about that time period convinces you that it wasn’t broken?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:21 PM
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What factor makes one a flight risk and the other not a flight risk? Why is the “safe option” staying, if the other would leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:18 AM
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I like spending money, even donating it to charity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:16 AM
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When you look through your spam email folder, and see a ton of people who would like to get money from you, does it make you feel confident?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:53 AM
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even if they are not married courts already have power on assets Why do you believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:10 PM
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You have to be joking. Childcare costs for young kids are often higher than one person’s salary. There are many cases where both parents cannot afford to work. You are clearly very ignorant about the many factors impacting couples and parents. It is incredibly arrogant of you to decide that other people are making incorrect decisions about things you are uninformed about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:57 PM
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Marriage does not guarantee anything of that exclusively. ? Social security benefits can be totally individual. And for people who spent time doing unpaid labor, like raising kids, they can be ZERO. Unless they were MARRIED.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:33 PM
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Marriage is overrated because it just ensures that you have food on the table in old age instead of just being a fun idea? Lol, OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:11 PM
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Say you don’t understand social security benefits without saying you don’t understand social security benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:06 PM
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This doesn’t add up. “I thought men and women were equal. I thought there were no gender roles. Also “I expected women to do 100% of the approaching.” How does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:53 AM
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I’m “playing semantics” by trying to use your definition of “widespread monogamy” from your post? Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:46 AM
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I just don't understand where you are going. You made a post asking if there could ever be high pairing rates, long relationships, and sexual monogamy without economic coercion. I’m asking you if there has ever been high pairing rates, long relationships, and sexual monogamy WITH economic coercion! I have zero reason this has ever occurred. Why would it start now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:17 AM
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And i can tell you right now, anecdotally, most men ain't getting anything out here. How many men can you anecdotally confirm have never had sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:03 AM
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I'm most interested in what % of men get basically left out of the game altogether without economic coercion, whatever that game is. Maybe you should make a post about that. Because you made a post about monogamy, and seem irritated that people responded to what you posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:49 AM
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Sorry, are you saying that if my husband’s corporate job decides whether I will eat.. I am not dependent on corporate power? You have to understand how fucking stupid that is?? —- Oh, cute stealth edit. If I depend on my husband, I’m at the whims of two other entities- him and his corporate overlord. If I have a job, I only have to deal with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:50 AM
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But my husband will still be dependent on a corporation to support me… Depending on a husband doesn’t remove corporate power over the food on my table.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:43 AM
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I’m asking you to tell me why you believe these periods of time had high pairing rates, long relationships, and sexual monogamy. What data are you looking at that convinces you husbands were monogamous during those times? Wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:39 AM
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Did you misunderstand my question? At what point in history would you say this has occurred, and why do you believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:28 AM
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Are you saying that most young men you know have never had any romantic or sexual contact? In the US, 70-80% of young men had sex in the last year. Why do you think your social circle is so different?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:27 AM
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But what do you mean. Do you mean I only have one night free this week, or that I don’t have the time to sustain two boyfriends for the rest of my life? Something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:50 AM
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Assuming you've only got enough time to spend on one of these people. Meaning what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:40 AM
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if you want high heterosexual pairing rates, and relationships that last… …AND be sexually monogamous, right? At what point in history would you say this has occurred, and why do you believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:43 AM
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For nearly two years, he had been talking to a virtual. He says he’s in love with her. The niche dating portals, which have names like Snap-Date, Horny-Spot, SexDater, Discreet-Meets, Only-Flirts.com, PassionsLove, and BeeMyPair, funnel users into the system and usually include lengthy terms and conditions. This not relevant to my use of dating apps, nor is “what you’ve heard” about apps you’ve never used.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:08 AM
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but I find it annoying how persistent people are at differentiating these relationships from romantic ones and how catching feelings is discouraged. How are you repeatedly finding yourself in situations where people feel the need to “persistently” say anything about their sexual relationships to you? I’ve been around a ton of people who have been in FWB arrangements, and this really never comes up. Do you bring it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:31 PM
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Remember that relationship skills are not just romantic. Focus on your relationships with friends, family members, and coworkers. Improve communication. Set boundaries and keep them. Listen for boundaries and respect them. Express appreciation for people. Pay attention to relationships that always make you feel worse about yourself and discourage you from growth, decide how to manage or end them. Make small talk with strangers, develop genuine curiosity in people without any long-term expectatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:28 PM
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How is this noteworthy. Men post here every day proclaiming they do not care about any aspect of women other than their looks and age- not their personality, not their interests or ambitions, not their ability to be a good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:18 AM
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There are 4+ times as many men as women. Of course women don’t swipe right as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:27 AM
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men can only learn and improve if they can, well... actually get to date women first What in the world do you mean by this??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:04 PM
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That makes so much sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:29 PM
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How do two people enter into a romantic relationship without anyone making a move?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:07 PM
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You can’t believe this? Literally how do you think that works??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:58 PM
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Why would anyone be confident because they are tall enough for a random anonymous person on Reddit that they have no interest in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:23 PM
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By getting leg extensions and breast implants? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:01 PM
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The point of this post is to know how hard is to satisfy your shallow requirements In what way does this post do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:58 PM
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You’ve openly said you think the answer is basically zero, and you’ve worded your post to ensure that the answer is basically zero. Seems like a waste of time to me, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:21 PM
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I guess you can personally decide that the word advice has a different meaning than its dictionary definition, but that’s probably going to impact the responses you get here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:10 PM
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That’s literally not advice. So no one is spreading that advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:33 PM
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I’d instantly lose all romantic interest and attraction in anyone who asked this question. Explain how it’s “psychotic” to not want to date someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:46 PM
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men are looking for sexually attractive, height/weight proportionate, sexually available women who want to have sex with them Imagine being on a date and asking them “Are you sexually attractive to me?” “Are you fat?”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:43 PM
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Not bringing “anything to the table” for someone asking her questions in bad faith makes her undateable? That’s a weird take. (Also, she mentions her husband in the video)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:01 PM
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While what do you bring to the table is weirdly phrased , someone should be able to answer, even with a friendship. A marriage even more so That isn’t the question though. I’m able to answer a lot of questions that I would be offended to be asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:52 AM
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Did you mean to reply to my comment? What about it are you responding to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:59 AM
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It doesn’t sound like you actually want to discuss this post, so we can leave this here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:26 AM
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If you are presuming to speak about my friends, you are wrong. If you’re speaking about your friends, I’ll accept your assessment that they expect very little from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:23 AM
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My friends certainly expect me to bring things to the table- reliability, commitments of time, empathy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:15 AM
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The post isn’t about caring about things, it’s about asking a specific question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:12 AM
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Then I don’t understand your comment about friendship vs. romantic relationship. You don’t think it’s normal to ask questions of people you might want to be friends with?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:04 AM
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What does that have to do with how you learn about someone? There are things that are important to me about potential friends, so I ask about those things. There are things that are important to me about potential romantic partners, so I ask about those things. It’s normal to want to get to know things about someone you’re considering bringing into your life. It’s not normal to demand their elevator speech about their personal brand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:58 AM
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I don’t understand what you mean. Dating IS the opportunity for a relationship to develop over time. I see people taking a lot longer to “become official” now than in recent history.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:32 AM
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If you don’t care whether people understand you, just stop commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:02 AM
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Did you even read the comment you replied to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:52 AM
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What does that have to do with this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:43 AM
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I guess I’m not getting your point. It’s normal to think someone is funny, and appreciate the joy they bring to your life. It’s not normal to ask someone, “Will I find you funny?”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:05 AM
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How does this relate to the comment you replied to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:57 AM
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No man ever gets to show how loyal or emotionally available he is without already checking a requirements list. Do you have a history of getting into relationships with women who demonstrate absolutely zero positive qualities, and then giving them a chance to show loyalty over time? What does that even look like??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:20 AM
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Imagine meeting a new person at a party that you might consider being friends with, and asking them “what would you bring to the table as a friend?” Anyone who has ever successfully interacted with other humans in a non-transactional way knows this isn’t appropriate behavior. If you think something is important to know about another person, ask about the thing you care about (career, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:09 AM
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My post was about finding the one long successful relationship. Not finding a series of ones that fail. That’s weird, your post says it’s about men and women being happier, not being in a long-term relationship. Not everyone online is looking for what you’ve decided they should be looking for. Not every relationship ending is a “failure” for the relationship or anyone in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:50 PM
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It turns out the group with more flavors to choose from were unhappier and regretted their choice than the group with less choices. EVERYONE in the group with more choices was less happy than EVERYONE in the group with fewer choices? I highly doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:53 AM
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Someone doesn’t understand the difference between feelings and behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:15 AM
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…do you not understand that HIV, herpes, and HPV are different things? Condoms do not stop men from getting herpes. A man who fucks other people can give his girlfriend herpes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:29 PM
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Condoms significantly reduce the risk of transmission of most STIs But an OnlyFans account of someone masturbating has zero risk of all STDs. And that’s why they’re not the same. Condoms don’t stop herpes. Condoms don’t stop HPV. Testing is limited or unreliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:22 PM
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So you are that ignorant. It can take months for herpes or even an HIV infection to show up in a test. There’s literally no approved HPV test for men. What’s the plan here? The boyfriend wants to fuck a random lady, so he asks random lady to take an HIV test… then be CELIBATE for MONTHS just so she can fuck a guy with a girlfriend?? Then the boyfriend is CELIBATE for MONTHS till he’s sure he doesn’t have HIV before he fucks his girlfriend again? And then she can still get cancer-causing HPV from…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:21 PM
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It’s called herpes and HPV. Are you really this ignorant?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:49 AM
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It seems like many women like that are the first to say "its different" Is getting an STD the same as not getting an STD? They seem pretty “different” to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:45 AM
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Is your post intentionally vague or unintentionally vague?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:37 PM
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I think you need to define this discussion a lot more clearly. Are you really looking to have an open discussion about what an anonymous person means by emotional labor in a single reference in an intentionally vague post?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:31 PM
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In what way is it like saying that? Having sex with someone you find repulsive =/= being friends with someone you like being friends with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:23 PM
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Anderson Cooper crying after Katrina accelerated his career.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:34 PM
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In a scenario where an unattractive insufferable guy is having years of satisfying sex with a hot lovely woman… he’s losing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:10 PM
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Lol, if you’re fucking and dating someone FOREVER… BECAUSE you’re not attracted to them or they’re a bitch, it says a lot more about you than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:11 PM
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women consistently go for abusive, bad natured men Consistently meaning what? As opposed to what? There are certainly jerks who get a lot of romantic attention. There are certainly people who consistently date jerks. But neither is exclusive to one gender. There are plenty of terrible women that get dates and plenty of guys who only date terrible women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:54 PM
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Women are willing to go out with most men on some level. Most men get married. Most men get into relationships. Most men have sex. Any man capable of dating two women ever is capable of dating two women at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 06:28 PM
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These online groups do not demonstrate this in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 05:32 PM
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how would so many women end up 'dating' the same guy if they're picking not looks but values kindness, loyalty, emotional intelligence? If you’re meeting strangers online, you actually have to date someone to evaluate these characteristics. How do women even end up dating 'the same guy' in metropolitan places like NYC where there is no shortage of single men of all ages? The same way everyone dates people who have gone out on dates with other people. Unless you are the first date that someone ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:27 PM
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Soooo… Your lives should complete one another and you should find pleasure with each other and each other only ????
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:34 AM
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Are you under the impression that married men don’t masturbate?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:55 PM
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If this were the case then online dating would actually be easier for the average guy given the larger pool of women Few women use online dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:49 PM
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“What are you doing posing questions for men in a space dedicated to questions for men?!?” Lolololol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:37 PM
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every women with access to social media become the same What?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 08:48 PM
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Could you tell us what you are seeing in real life that makes you believe this? People I know are still seeking out and getting into relationships with people who share things in common with them, whether they’re meeting on or offline. My religious friends get into relationships with religious people. My heavy metal friends get into relationships with people who like heavy metal. Is your social circle filled with religious girls dating agnostics and heavy metal girls dating guys into the top 40?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 08:45 PM
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Breeding isn't an accomplishment. Especially when you’re being charged with rape and human trafficking…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:26 PM
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We’re talking about the guy charged with holding women captive and raping them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:15 PM
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A number of regular commenters here describe themselves as incels and Andrew Tate aficionados with the best gym bods and flashy cars…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:55 PM
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But you're literally here talking about how you need to be comfortable with him being committed to you. I haven’t talked about commitment at all… and this has no relation to the part of your comment I quoted and responded to? Why should he be expected to stick around He is not, not by me. I don’t expect much from people I just started dating. That sounds exactly like being worried that he's going to take the sex and then leave. Breaking up after sex =/= using someone for sex? If I’m just getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 01:25 PM
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they don't want to feel like the guy you had to fall back on because you couldn't get the "hot" guys to stick around. This isn’t meant to be insulting, but I don’t tend to be seriously interested in guys who are hung up on these ideas. The people I’m more interested in tend to have awareness that different people make decisions for a lot of different reasons. I can’t really think of any interesting adult in my life who would equate immediacy of sex with attraction or feelings. in the case that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:49 PM
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how am I supposed to know the difference How desired am I going to feel when you clearly find other men far more exciting or attractive Could you elaborate? How would someone I just started dating be in a position to know any of this or be able to compare anything? which I'd suggest is actually rather selfish. As opposed to what? What’s an unselfish approach? Having sex when I’m not comfortable because of the emotional risk? Edit to add: between you not wanting to blow a relationship If you mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:18 PM
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I’ve never “made a man wait” out of concern for how he would think about me. But I’ve certainly acted in my own interests to protect myself emotionally. If I know that someone isn’t a long-term prospect and am not emotionally attached to him, I’m not worried about him potentially ending things soon after sex. Who cares? There much less emotional risk to having sex. If I’m really into someone, being ghosted or dumped would be more upsetting… especially if it’s right after sex. It’s just not a goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:17 AM
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There are 4+ times as many men on dating apps. 50% of women and 10% of men are probably a similar number of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:52 PM
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And? How does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:20 PM
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solution to anti-abortion laws ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:48 PM
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the issue with such advice is that it doesn’t tackle any of the internal issues on why many men are single and lonely What would tackle these issues? Why would you expect dating advice to tackle them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:51 PM
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legally it is pointless and stupid institution in an age when you can get all outside of marriage Spousal social security, disability, and Medicare benefits? Tax free inheritance? Ability to move to another country for one persons job? FMLA leave? Health insurance through spouse’s employer?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:14 PM
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marriage is meaningless in the sense you get sex, commitment, children, etc. without it, it is mostly symbolic and women put too much weight on it Your post is about the fact that men are not committed to the women they are not marrying…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:57 PM
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Most men still aren’t great at non-work tasks. It’s one thing to have a spouse who works less, but excels at household management, cooking, childcare, cleaning, etc. It’s another thing to have a spouse who works less, but doesn’t do more at home. Most women also want to give birth, which impacts their career advancement, even if they don’t plan to take much time off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:04 PM
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Sounds like a lot of men are in the harem too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:40 PM
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If you think everyone is pretty much the same, what are you asking and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:31 PM
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Because you know there’s no way to genuinely answer the question. This description matches me and a ton of women I know, and our day-to-day lives are all different. She could volunteer after work, she could be a nurse who works all weekend, she could read, she could sit in front on the tv, she could be an opioid addict. Who knows. There are still a million different lives anyone could live within these parameters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:28 PM
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What exactly is the premise of your post? Most men don’t want physical jobs and most do not have them. Some do. Most women do not want physical jobs and do not have them. Some do. One agenda media is pushing with all these strong and physical women in movies, is getting women to enter physically demanidng work force or spaces Are you imagining there’s an agenda to get all women into these jobs? Most women? I’m unclear where you’re getting this idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:17 AM
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Do you seriously think men and women have the same standards? It's just ridiculous. Do you seriously think 50 year-old men aren’t using old photos and trying to match with younger women? Or is it that you think they’re never out of shape? Or is it that you think they always accept rejection gracefully?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:31 AM
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The only thing that has made a difference in getting the relationships/partners I want, is not wasting time with ones I don’t. I used to put more effort into trying to make it work with guys I started dating. Now I give up on people a lot faster, and that means I’m available to meet guys who are better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:57 AM
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I definitely think a negative outcome of the MeToo movement has been a destruction of these mixed "3rd places"... How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:10 PM
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This may blow your mind: there were tall men even before Andrew Tate was born, and it wasn’t because of their “mindset.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:07 PM
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In the year 2023?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:06 PM
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70-80% of men had sex in the last year. You think the vast majority of those men generated zero attraction? This is believable to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:02 PM
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Define the 80/20 rule in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:31 PM
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So since most men are trash regardless you may as well go for the ones with the most perks? Is that your argument? I don’t think most men are trash. YOU DO.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:51 AM
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You’ve had casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:42 AM
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From the point of view of "fairness" woman marrying and having babies with her looksmatch sounds like a fair deal or "success". Why? Why is “looksmatch”‘what is fair? There are so many other factors, why is that the fair or successful one for people to partner on? Why not “kindnessmatch” or “intelligencematch?” Or, why “match” at all? Why wouldn’t it be fair for people to partner with others who have opposite and complementary skills? Why wouldn’t it be fair to partner with people with complemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:41 AM
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I don’t know how many average men are good or bad. How could I? You just said most of them are trash. The average man does want to date. You just said most average men want to use women for sex, not be in a relationship. They just don’t have the choice. average women’s 3 choices are better yourself, date someone that chooses you (not high value), or give up on romance and seek high value men for sex only. Again, according to you, no. According to you, average women are choosing between sex with …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:44 AM
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The men you described are not and those aren’t the men I was intentionally referring to in my post. Are you fucking joking? You made a post about how women need to take accountability for ruining the dating life of “the average man,” even though the average man doesn’t want to date at all, and now you’re pretending you were just talking about a small group of average men the entire time?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:28 AM
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And that’s what you describe as love and pure intentions? Dating a woman because the guy can’t use her for sex like he wishes he could?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:51 AM
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To be clear, my choices as a woman are: High value man who “uses me for sex” and “shows me he doesn’t care about me” and… … an average man who wishes he could treat me the same way, but will get in a relationship with me because he can’t. I have that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:18 AM
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would say most high value men take advantage of the fact they can sleep with almost anyone. By using women for sex? Every time I use your language to ask you a question, you use different language to respond, and I’m not sure whether we’re talking about the same thing. Do most high value men use women for sex? Would most men use women for sex if they have the opportunity?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 01:40 AM
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Are only the manipulative narcissists using less attractive women for sex, or are all high value men doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 01:26 AM
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What does that have to do with your post though? Are women fixating on 10s, high value men, or manipulative narcissists? Or are these the same people? women are attracted to confident men who approach them first and smooth talk them Are these 10s? And 10 has nothing to do with appearance? Or are these high value men? And high value has nothing to do with appearance, status, or resources? Or are these the manipulative narcissists?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:52 AM
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Sorry, could you reword this? I’m not following. No not at all What are you saying no to? But when the dating scene is ruled by men that think too much of them selves who smooth talk women (aka every successful pick up attempt at a bar ever) you’re going to end up with a lot of confident manipulative narcissists who get all the girls Succeeding in the dating world makes someone a narcissist? Is that what you’re saying? What is a high value man and what does narcissism have to do with high value …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:11 AM
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Having only casual partners implies a very lonely life lacking in companionship Having a committed romantic partner has never been the deciding factor in whether I am lonely or have companionship. I’ve been deliberately single for periods of my life, and had a ton of companionship with friends, family members, community. I’ve observed the same in a lot of other people, particularly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:54 PM
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So you acknowledge women would rather die alone The husband dies first in the vast majority of marriages. Partnership doesn’t stop women from dying alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:36 PM
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I’m well aware that high value men are manipulative narcissists that lie to women Say more about this. How are you defining “high value?” Are the only men capable of becoming “high value” manipulative narcissists? Or does something about being “high value” make a man a manipulative narcissist?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:31 PM
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Even in 2002, most people were married by 30. “The probability of first marriage by age 30 is 74% for women and 61% for men.” Even then, a lot of the people “left” weren’t looking for serious relationships, much less necessarily succeeding at having them. So there just weren’t a ton of just over 30 people who could be called a boyfriend or girlfriend. Am I missing your point? It seems obvious that people who were not boyfriends wouldn’t be called boyfriends… Source for above: https://www.cdc.gov…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:10 PM
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Back then, nobody over the age of 30 would use the terms "dating" and "boyfriend/girlfriend" because this was your settlement phase Please specify the time periods you’re discussing. For most of history, few people would have been dating after 30 at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:43 PM
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You just said you can get away with most anything if the woman finds you attractive… so how does it not follow?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:06 PM
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Given that you believe physical attraction is the only thing that should matter in early dating, it follows that people will date people they’re physically attracted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:47 PM
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Hopefully they’re maintaining appropriate boundaries depending on how long we’ve known each other and whether we’ve built trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:13 PM
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The number of sociopaths and narcissists that can convince someone to date them would say otherwise. Lol, people with personality disorders do it, so anyone can do it? Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 04:32 PM
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Anyone can turn on a pleasing personality. HARD DISAGREE.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:43 PM
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It is not wrong or superficial to decline to date people with personalities you don’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:29 AM
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Nope, no clue how it relates to the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:43 AM
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We’re talking about neurodivergent men. You say the point of dating is to determine physical attraction. You say neurodivergent behavior is part of physical appearance. Women who do not date neurodivergent men because they are not physically attractive are doing what you say they should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:31 AM
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So they are judging physical appearance, which is what you say they’re supposed to do, but call them superficial for doing??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:33 AM
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Are you saying that BEHAVIOR isn’t part of personality??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:11 AM
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You’re saying that women can’t judge personality in early dating. But also that women consistently weed out neurodivergent men in early dating… You’re saying that women are superficial in early dating. Because they weed out men on things that aren’t just physical appearance… You get how none of this makes sense, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:05 AM
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The purpose of early dating is to find people you’re physically attracted to and women are superficial for doing that? Or superficial for not doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:55 AM
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In your mind, what is the initial window of dating for? What is the purpose of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:16 AM
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How is caring about someone’s personality superficial or arbitrary?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:39 AM
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It’s not necessary to judge someone as a person to judge that they won’t be a positive force in your life. Those are two different activities. I don’t “take harder stances on the behavior of other women or men.” But I’m picky as hell about who I spend my time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 02:28 PM
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This conversation is about victims of crimes, and whether they should be able to report those crimes even if there isn’t enough other evidence to convict, or they choose not to participate in criminal proceedings. If someone sexual assaults me, but my statement is the only evidence, do you have a problem with me reporting the crime? Is your answer different for other crimes? Such as someone breaking into my home while I’m there?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:57 AM
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And that makes you unable to answer the question? I’m not following.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:49 PM
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Not an answer to the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:51 PM
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But are you against reporting crimes or making complaints to the police if there’s not evidence? Or just for sexual assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:44 PM
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As opposed to reporting other crimes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:38 PM
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So, I think the problem is women are not vetting on character enough. Why? I’m not aware of any other relationship type that has a great track record. People fall out with life-long friends after growing up with them. Married people who have been together for decades learn new things about each other and break up, often shocked by betrayals and deceit. Employers run interviews, reference checks, and background checks, and still end up with employees they have to fire. Why isn’t the “problem” tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:34 PM
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Studies say that 80% of women go for the top 20% of men. Link to the studies. Edit: Lol, you just changed the post to avoid addressing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:38 AM
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https://www.salon.com/2022/11/06/why-are-so-many-young-people-are-having-less-and-fewer-friendships/ Although it’s declined, about 80% of US adults under 35 have had sex in the last year. Women are sleeping with 80% of men, not 25%.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:51 PM
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Someone who is mindlessly and automatically selfless with people they do not know will not be able to prioritize their partners. To share a life, a home, and finances with someone, they NEED to be able to say no to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:14 PM
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This can’t be simplified this way. A lot of guys who think they are “selfless” are actually manipulative. A lot of guys you might think of as “selfish” just have appropriate boundaries. Being mindlessly “selfless” with people you do not even have a relationship with is actually BAD! Similarly, the opposite of “low self-control/inhibition” isn’t necessarily self-control, but neuroticism and paralyzing indecision. Which is problematic in partners. This is a lot more complicated than your post sugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:23 AM
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Have you had sex with guys like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:04 AM
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a lot of information going around that women only sleep with the top 25% of guys. There’s zero actual information suggesting this. All respectable data sources indicate the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:02 AM
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I don’t date shy guys. I don’t enjoy it and would rather be single. That doesn’t mean I’m willing to date everyone who is confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:50 PM
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Women should be 100% responsible for kids because of biology… and because it’s always been that way… Men should be 0% responsible for kids because biology doesn’t matter… and there was a time in history when you couldn’t test DNA… Airtight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 10:36 PM
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i dont care about biology You just told me the basis of your belief in distributing rights and duties: the fetus gestates in the woman and she gives birth to it Your entire position rests on biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 10:04 PM
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I am trying to shame you! You’re using uninformed ideas about medical risks to advocate for legal changes that would physically harm women! You should be ashamed of that! “It’s oppressive to make me feel bad for advocating harm to women just because I don’t know what I’m talking about!” 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:47 PM
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How is kid who is 50% mom and 50% dad a “female issue?” It’s a person with half of its DNA from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:45 PM
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Using the guys sperm, which is easily tracked to him. A legal contract (or lack thereof) doesn’t change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:10 PM
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all said that between the early weeks of pregnancy its relatively safe enough, if not why would they fda approve them in the first place? I have no idea why you are telling me this. It has nothing to do with your claim that there is no difference in risk at different times during a “safe time,” which is a concept that lives only on your imagination, not medical research. I’m already well-acquainted with the limits of your understanding of the complications of abortion. There is no need to keep t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:08 PM
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If it is deem safe by doctors to have an abortion between a time frame how is there any consequence for me to wait? I’ve already told you that the risks of different complications are different at different times during the pregnancy. If you had done the smallest amount of research about the topic you decided to make sweeping claims about, you’d know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:35 PM
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to say that early pregnant abortions are deemed safe enough for medical professionals isnt a incorrect statement But that’s not what you said. You said safe with no consequences to delay. Thats not a “perspective.” That’s an ignorant claim you made. Yes, I do take it personally when people propose legal changes that could harm my health because they’ve used their imagination to invent medical claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:19 PM
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If it’s so obvious to you, seems weird that you’re incapable of speaking to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:53 PM
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im not claiming anything as you said prior i have no right to so We can agree that you had no right to make this garbage claim: within the safe time for her to have an abortion then delying the procedure is inconsequential for her You provided one “research” that doesn’t not have any relevance to your unsubstantiated statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:51 PM
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You direct messaged me a link that discusses the risks of medical abortion (not surgical) during only 3 weeks of pregnancy (13-15 weeks) unsupported by in-person professions. Are you claiming those 3 weeks are the safe time to have an abortion? But not before 13 weeks?? Edit, from the study 38 (29%) reported adverse events (heavy bleeding, fever), 53 (43%) sought additional care from a health provider, and 18% of all cases received treatment with D&C/aspiration. WOW
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:18 AM
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Why don’t you educate me, hun. Share a medical source that tells me when the safe time to have an abortion is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:46 AM
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the safe time for her to have an abortion then delying the procedure is inconsequential for her There is no “safe time.” The risk of different complications is different at different times during a pregnancy, and dependent on a woman’s other health conditions. You are being incredibly irresponsible spreading false information like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:35 AM
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Why would she delay her choice to hear out his? Are you completely ignorant of what it costs to raise a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:20 AM
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even if his lack of response did delay her choice he would then be responsible for her child as i said before No. If the “reasonable time” is 10 weeks, he can decide to abdicate responsibility on the last day. You have delayed my informed choice and access to appropriate medical care for MONTHS and he’s still not responsible for the kid if I have it. And add to that she could still put the baby up for aboption Now you’re saying 9 months of bodily torture makes it “fair?” Because god forbid he fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:06 AM
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It is absolutely bizarre that you consider signing a form impractical, but delaying someone’s medical care practical.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:54 AM
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he should be able to do so within a reasonable amount of time after finding out the woman is pregnancy but just like a woman need to make this choice within a certain amohnt of time And how do you account for the fact that this impacts a woman’s ability to make appropriate decisions about the medical care she receives? If she is waiting on his decision to make her decision (because she doesn’t yet know if the kid will have two parents) she is getting potentially unneeded prenatal care and delayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:44 AM
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How would the government know who to seek child support from if the man doesn’t file a form saying that he won’t be responsible?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:28 AM
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Your apparent insistence that both parents have to make their positions known BEFORE or AFTER pregnancy, instead of the one who does not need medical advice making his decision BEFORE and the one who does making her decision AFTER she can talk to a doctor about her pregnancy. If you agree that the man has to decide before the woman risks her body, and the woman can decide after her body is at risk, we’re on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:23 AM
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if i tell him as soon as i know he has the same amount of time to make his choice as i do hasnt made a choice within a reasonable amount of time How does that not postpone someone’s choice? If my choice is to have the kid IF SUPPORTED, I’m waiting till his deadline to schedule my abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:20 AM
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It is not the same. A woman stating what medical procedure she’d have before medical advice is not the same as a man stating that he won’t have responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:17 AM
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anyone should also have the flexibility to choice in situations where you may not know your decision till its happened “I need flexibility to postpone your ability to make an informed decision about which medical procedure happens to your body” is a bizarre understanding of “fair.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:14 AM
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Why does it matter whether the woman says she’s going to have the kid or not if the man doesn’t have to support it? If the man has the option to choose not to support future pregnancies, he doesn’t need to know whether she would abort or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:04 AM
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WHY does his choice have to wait until you are pregnant to be fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:00 AM
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That’s what I’m proposing. They choose whether to support kids or not. Men have all the information to make an informed choice before pregnancy. You do not. After you get pregnant, you may find that a pregnancy may damage your health. You don’t have all the information until after you become pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:52 AM
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Nature creates the imbalance. The pregnancy happens inside the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:46 AM
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I’m not speaking of “should” or of “conversations.” We’re discussing a legal proposal. If you don’t provide documented written notice to someone that you will not support any children that result from pregnancy, you should not be able to renounce responsibility after helping to create a pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:41 AM
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Why do you believe in non-marital maternity?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:35 AM
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I’d support this if the information were shared before sex, so the woman could choose not to have sex and risk pregnancy with men who won’t support their children. It would not be fair for a woman to have to choose between medical procedures because of information withheld until after she becomes pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:34 AM
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I thought “offline boyfriends” were in this season.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:30 AM
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The divorce rate is lower now. A lot of people chose not to get married at all after seeing the marriages and divorced of that generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:28 PM
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People emphasize a social life because it’s associated with social skills that are helpful in dating: ability to talk to different kinds of people, ability to understand and anticipate women’s concerns, etc. These skills are useful whether you’re actually dating people you’ve met through your social circle, or strangers. If your goal is to find a relationship, it’s a matter of luck whether you’ll meet someone through your social life or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:25 PM
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So, the marriages that resulted in the highest increase in divorce in US history and produced kids who didn’t want to repeat their parents’ mistakes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:13 PM
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Why are you pretending there was never a time when things were more functional? Because no one who claims it was more functional will tell me when that was.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:06 PM
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Again, when? The rate of men having kids has historically been lower than it is now, and even then there were a ton of single moms because wars widowed so many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:58 PM
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When was dating “functional” according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:15 PM
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The sky has always been blue. Do you need someone to tell you the sky is blue?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:40 PM
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As opposed to when?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:25 PM
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Are you assuming that who people message and respond to is who they would prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:42 PM
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Almost every single guy has a good amount of female friends What a bizarre thing to say. There’s so much research about men’s social circles shrinking. 15%+ of men have no close friends at all, of any gender. Many more have almost no friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 02:40 AM
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If someone told you to “talk to men,” would you need to approach strangers in public to accomplish that?? What do these things have to do with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 09:08 PM
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And why only 8 out of 1000 men get married. Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:42 AM
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And there are 4 billion women…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:38 PM
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What do you think “mono” means?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:32 PM
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Different women have different preferences and make different choices. If you think that’s a monopoly, you need to take economics 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:45 PM
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If you’re only a misogynist when women exercise their right to autonomy over their own bodies and lives, you’re always a misogynist. This is like saying, “White people wouldn’t be as racist if Black people were less uppity and knew their place.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:26 PM
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Do you date men or do you see them as disposable?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:06 AM
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That’s why I’m frankly a much more interesting sexual prospect on the market than other men. Interesting to whom? Yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 07:47 AM
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I’ve had too many men behave aggressively towards me when I wasn’t receptive to their approach, so I’m on edge whenever I’m cold approached. My brain is remembering times I’ve been screamed at and threatened instead of actually evaluating the person approaching me. I just want to exit the situation as quickly and safely as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:18 AM
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The creepiness comes from the decision to escalate without reciprocity. If you’re trying to make eye contact, and they’re avoiding eye contact with you, it’s creepy to approach. Worse-looking guys are less likely to get eye contact returned, which makes it seem like his appearance is what makes it creepy- but it’s the behavior of escalating without reciprocity. If you start talking to someone, and they zero sign of being interested, continuing to talk and escalate is creepy. A worse-looking guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:32 AM
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people do certainly have rough hierarchies of potential dating prospects in their minds I haven’t known anyone to do that past college. Or is it less about mutual friends and more about whether you've met them offline before? It’s more about having information about more aspects of them. I know what they really look like, I know how they talk, I know if they can make eye contact, I know if they have a sense of humor, I know if we can build rapport, I know if they get references, I know if they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:30 AM
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allows you to jump the queue ahead of guys Relationships are not the McDonalds drive through. I very much doubt you have a queue of potential friend to get to know in a first-come-first-served order. guys who seem better in every conceivable way...what because they feel safer this way? Someone in your social circle is someone you didn’t have to go alone to meet, or put in any effort to meet. There’s a big difference between the effort it takes to meet up with a stranger who turns out to be a jer…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:59 AM
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A lot of men confuse dating strangers with dating within social networks. A stranger will not give you the benefit of the doubt, because why would they? A stranger will want a greater reason to make the greater effort and take greater risk to interact with you. Someone you’ve met socially gets to interact with you without expending much effort and without taking much risk. Someone who gets to know you at no cost has more capacity to extend the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:30 AM
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But you are looking at employment patterns of people who contribute to society, and making conclusions about men who do not. Are men more likely to be utility workers? Yes. Does that make unemployed men more valuable? NO. Unemployed men don’t get credit for the jobs other men do. we often find men doing traditionally female jobs, such as nursing. Meanwhile, almost no woman doing some vital jobs that only men do, such as fixing electric lines. 14% of nurses being men is often 8% of line workers b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:12 AM
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Men are in control of who they have sex with. Men are in control of whether they are promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:42 AM
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So… “reintegrate,” by contributing to society for the very first time… The idea is that men have a broader skillset jobs with no problem, jobs that not require much training The idea is that useless men have the broad skill set… to do jobs that don’t require much training… Give me a break. The number one occupation for women is registered nurse. Women do gross jobs, critical when shit hits the fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:39 AM
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men will gladly fuck a girl below his sexual market value if it is easy and free. This creates a dynamic where women But it’s only women’s promiscuity that created the dynamic… 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:27 AM
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Reintegrated? You imagine that useless men previously did important work (not spreadsheets)? Why would you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:18 AM
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Useless men are also still more useful than useless women if SHTF. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 01:59 AM
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Why would people whining about the consequences of their actions make a thought experiment “necessary?” “Sure I was texting & diving and hit your car, but I don’t want to pay for the damage.” Do you think we need a thought experiment?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:32 PM
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The actual consequences of your actual actions are not a sentence! The actual consequence of getting pregnant is childbirth or abortion. The actual consequence of getting someone pregnant is a potential child to be accountable for. You’re creating an alternate universe where people aren’t accountable for the consequences of their behavior, but are handed down an unrelated punishment instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:10 PM
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That isn’t accountability. That’s a sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:04 PM
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You’re saying a man doesn’t have to be accountable for the child he actually created if he doesn’t create other children?? In what world is that accountability??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:55 PM
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For what abortion would an infertile man be accountable for??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:47 PM
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BUT to opt out men now have to get a vasectomy or use that birth control for men that injects hydrogel to black sperm Why would you need a legal process to opt out of supporting children that won’t exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:18 PM
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We are talking about the percentage of women I could potentially date And not being able to date them isn’t a measure of their quality. The percent of women who are married doesn’t make the percent of women who are unmarried of lower or higher quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:21 PM
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Not me. That’s why I said married AND wouldn’t give you a second glance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:01 PM
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But someone not being available for you to date is not a measure of their quality. If 99% of women were married and wouldn’t give you a second glance, you can’t say “Only 1% of women available to date- what a statement about the quality of women!” This isn’t a measure of women who would date you. It’s a measure of women who exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:58 PM
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What does being married say about “quality?”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:24 PM
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Apparently my boyfriend doesn’t exist…. 0.0000% chance… I guess I am delusional! This is so stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:55 PM
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“Luxury” as opposed to what??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 12:49 AM
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That math doesn’t add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 12:48 AM
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No one’s risked their life for me any more than for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:33 AM
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Why would someone get legally married with the intention of violating the laws about marriage? The laws around assets are 99% the point of legal marriage. If you don’t want laws to apply to your assets, do not get married. Don’t make yourself a criminal. How does this make any sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:30 PM
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You are conflating the general with the specific. Wanting to get laid can manifest as a general interest in women. It doesn’t mean caring about women’s wellbeing, being kind to women, wanting getting to know women… It can just mean wanting to pump and dump women. That’s not the same as liking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:18 PM
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To be clear, you’re talking about a married person having separate assets that they do not disclose to their spouse AND DO NOT DISCLOSE DURING A DIVORCE? And you’re asking how we feel about a spouse doing something illegal almost everywhere??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:14 PM
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But other people disagree that a “general interest” in humans with certain body parts is the same as liking those human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:06 PM
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Not sure how any of this is surprising given real world metrics. Men have much smaller social support networks, so romantic partners are a bigger source of support. Men also have less experience communicating about social plans and problems in relationships, since they spend less time with people. Higher rates of violence track with big emotional responses. Higher rates of alcoholism and addition track with challenges with emotional regulation. A perusal of this sub reveals a lot of anxiety and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:42 PM
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"Delay decision-making" like in being insecure whether to invite you out to do something together? More like, “I’m doing this thing. Do you want to join me?” And then it’s uncertainty until tickets are sold out or I can’t invite someone else to do it, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:14 PM
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Do you date men, or do you not like them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:59 PM
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…did I tell men how the relationship would impact me before the relationship occurred? No, I did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:56 PM
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Should have for whose benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:50 PM
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I hear about MGTOW and men not needing women every single day on this sub! But not needing to be in a romantic relationship with someone is not the same as disrespecting the professional contributions of any group of society. I don’t date women at all, but I sure appreciate the primary education I received from a group of 90% women. Not needing to have sex or get married is not an insult to workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:29 PM
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It’s just extra true. Everyone is supported by others. If it weren’t for nurses (a job that’s about 85% women) a lot of people wouldn’t be alive to do their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:12 PM
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So what? The men who aren’t working in these fields are being “subsidized” by the ones who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:08 PM
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First sentence of my comment: I like men a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:07 PM
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Some have been extremely high maintenance because they didn’t invest in other social support and/or couldn’t process their emotions on their own. They resented me having other interests and social plans because they did not, and they needed more emotional support to deal with normal feelings of loneliness, frustration, and anger (which often included flying off the handle for minor annoyances). Others were flaky and poor communicators. They would make commitments and change their minds. They wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:05 PM
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Most men I know don’t build houses or work for a utility company. I know some women who do. If everyone with a desk job is being subsidized, a lot of men are being subsidized.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:54 PM
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If she were hit by a bus tomorrow, you’d be… homeless?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:51 PM
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I like men a lot. I have a lot of male friends and enjoy working with men professionally. But most of my romantic relationships have been negative experiences for me. They’ve usually been very draining, and kept me from taking care of myself and pursuing things that are good for me. The costs have outweighed the benefits. I still date men, but am very very very picky about who and in what capacity. Edit to add: I very much disagree that wanting to have sex with someone means you like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:35 PM
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I’ve considered guys to be “too nice” when they seem motivated to feel like they are nice instead of be kind or consistent with their supposed values. Example: You tell a guy you do not like or want something that is typically considered “nice,” but he continues to provide it “for” you. You say you don’t like chocolate, the guy sends you heart-shaped boxes of chocolate. He’s disappointed that you aren’t grateful. His friends and family tell him how nice he is for sending you chocolate. Example: …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:20 PM
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With the popularity of the finding love overseas for western men It doesn’t seem that popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:04 PM
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But if “women’s spending” refers to who writes the check, it is meaningless. Women are more likely to pay utility bills because it’s a household chore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:10 PM
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But if you’ve decided that any behavior with any conscious intention and any outcome is proof of your hypothesis, it’s meaningless. “I became a logger because it’s the best pay I could get and I want to have a family.” Procreation! “I became a logger because I’m a risk-taker who doesn’t dare if I die tomorrow. But my labor benefits others.” Procreation!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:08 PM
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If a woman goes to the store to buy diapers, is that “women’s spending?”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:01 PM
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And all of that would benefit you indirectly just as much as a woman. I work a desk job, and my roof doesn’t keep me any drier than you because I have a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:42 PM
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Why is it the best gig they can find?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:30 PM
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Yes, a reason people consider the worst jobs is because they can’t consider the better jobs because of class issues, like inadequate access to nutrition. People like you indirectly benefit from having an under-resourced group of people that keep their bubble in infrastructure and civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:29 PM
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Any why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:20 PM
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I did not say that software developers are smart. But you said they’re smarter than others. “Not everyone is as smart for those jobs.” How did you get that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:20 PM
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And you would describe roofing, a job that pays less than average, as a career than men choose in order to be with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:17 PM
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That’s a really long way to say you have no sources. A lot of people in this world do the bare minimum. Not all of them were capable of doing more. A lot of guys live in empty rooms with a mattress on the floor. I don’t know how many could have had anything different. Being on your own doesn’t mean you went your own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:02 PM
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How was your brain made? Did your mother have access to food? Clean water? Shelter? Healthcare?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:38 PM
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Please references any sources that suggest that most MGTOW men had the potential to have high-earning jobs, but chose not to pursue them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:37 PM
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Because the impacts of being motivated by procreation are not the same as being motivated by procreation. You could say that people’s will to survive is a function of their motivation to procreate. But people will clearly choose to survive at the expense of procreation. Whether you’re a man in ancient China choosing to self-castrate to work in the palace, or a woman having a hysterectomy to prevent potential cancer return, people make choices that are not motivated by procreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:35 PM
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What’s your explanation for how you became intellectually equipped to work in software development?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:10 PM
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To be clear, you’re not saying they became roofers in order to succeed with women, which is what OP is claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:42 PM
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Whose logic? OP clearly says they do the worst jobs because they’re horny. Not that they’re horny because they do the worst jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:29 PM
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So the argument is that guys are so horny that they choose a job… where they have almost no access to women except for sex workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:23 PM
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those jobs are always struggling to attract workers anyway. I guess guys aren’t that horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:15 PM
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Roofing is the worst construction job in the sense that it’s most likely to kill you. Average salary is less than $50k. https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes472181.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:00 PM
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But the jobs with the highest injury and fatality rates typically don’t pay more than the average job?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:51 PM
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men being horny enough to do the worst jobs You think men become loggers and work on oil rigs in the ocean because they’re horny?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:45 PM
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a man who wants to pump-and-dump you, he will do it as soon as he gets what he wants... no matter how soon or late he got it. In your imagination, a guy who wants to pump-and-dump would date someone for weeks just to ghost after having sex once? Instead of just moving on to other prospects?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 11:41 PM
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OK?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:39 AM
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What does this have to do with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:19 AM
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a post that was literally nothing but women saying they're asexual and see sex as disgusting. A quick glance at the post responses shows that’s objectively false.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:56 AM
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How’s it working for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 07:02 AM
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Could you talk more about why this is gendered? Instead of a discussion about what anyone might bring to a relationship or expect from a warm relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:48 AM
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You’re the grown up. Act like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:12 PM
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Yes, and a 5 year-old can convince you that you should give them ice cream.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:03 PM
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It is weird to seek out romantic partners whose brain isn’t finished forming when yours is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 08:57 PM
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And no she isn’t “using him for his body too” it is not and can not be an equal exchange. He has the advantage 100% of the time Every woman I know who has done this over the age of 24 has done it because the advantage is not having a guy around the rest of the time. They are not accepting less, they just want less. Because they’re choosing to focus on themselves. There’s no conflict with feminism there. The guy wanting more would be an undesirable outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 08:29 PM
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The majority of women have never heard of Men’s Day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:51 PM
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Exactly, that’s why his analysis is so flawed. Someone who has sex 1000 times with 1 woman would “have less sex” than someone who has sex 5 times with 5 different women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:08 PM
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Lol, you were still misleading even if everyone can see through it. It’s like you want credit for misrepresenting data in a really transparent way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:29 AM
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Lolololol That is not your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:58 AM
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Which you did not succeed in doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:53 AM
1

I definitely should not have expected the absolute bare minimum of competency.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:42 AM
1

But anyone in a monogamous relationship isn’t getting much “sex,” according to this analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:41 AM
1

The post does make it very clear that your analysis is misrepresenting the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:27 AM
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Misrepresenting duplicate records as unique records is manipulating the data. Misrepresenting partners as sex is manipulating the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:19 AM
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Are you still defending this garbage? Please take a statistics class.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:16 AM
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So why the fuck would you make a conclusion about the distribution?!?! It’s not obvious that this data would follow an approximate Pareto distribution. This is so embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:50 AM
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You did not analyze the distribution. Your conclusions about the distribution are unfounded. I would have failed high school statistics with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:46 AM
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I know that. That was your mistake. Jesus Christ. Let’s say 1% of people are murderers. If I group all people into 5ths, guess what: 100% of murders are committed by the top 20% of people!!! Holy shit!!! Does that mean the top 20% are murders? Nooooooo!!!! It does not! Choosing to divide the data into 20/80 just makes sure you cannot see whether it has a Pareto distribution! Instead of confirming Pareto, you made it impossible to confirm or conflict with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:34 AM
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And your analysis doesn’t show that either! The top 5% could have almost all of the sex with almost all of the partners. Your decision to group the top 20% together before looking at the actual data means you have no idea if there’s a pattern to the top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:26 AM
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Literally what “the results” are saying IS a misinterpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:21 AM
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“People who have sex have sex” is in fact meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:19 AM
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The “findings” have no meaning. The other 80% could exclusively contain men who are in monogamous relationships and men who are not seeking sex. The 20% could contain all men who are single and trying to have sex. Nothing in this analysis demonstrates otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:12 AM
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If you mean to reinforce preconceived notions without the distraction of any actual information, I’m sure you’re doing a great job.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:09 AM
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It’s not clear, because it isn’t a percent of the sex partners either!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:04 AM
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Yes, I’m abundantly aware that your “research” uses terms to mean the opposite of their actual meaning. That’s why both your methods and conclusions are incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:03 AM
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Literally your title: “The top 20% of young men are having 84% of the SEX”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:58 AM
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Again, no. You are free to say “the top 20% had an average of ___ unique sexual partners in ___ time period.” But you are not free to divide that among a total of sexual partners from multiple groups, because the sexual partners ARE NOT UNIQUE. They are duplicative. That is flawed data analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:57 AM
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That is the opposite of what unique means in data analysis. So neither of these is true: The top 20% of young men are having 84% of the sex 84% of all unique female sexual partners were going to 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:40 AM
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Unique sex partners? That makes zero sense. If I have sex with a 20% guy, and an 80% guy, where does my “unique” record go? Or 5 different 20% guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:31 AM
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Of course not. That’s why you can’t compare people you’ve chosen to have in your life to strangers you went on one bad date with. One group is vetted and selected. The other is largely random and rejected. It doesn’t mean anything about the general population. If all of your friends are soccer players, and your dates are not, you can’t conclude that soccer players are just better people than swimmers. On top of that, many people treat their friends well, and their dates poorly. The fact that som…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 02:11 AM
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But working and being a breadwinner is still considered “more” of a man’s job, and you feel that’s irrelevant. Men are more likely to be in the workforce and make more money. So who cares who gardens “more?”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 11:56 PM
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Yes, and those other roles are no longer gendered because people of both genders do and don’t do them. So no one is taking on the roles of another gender by doing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 11:35 PM
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that role is no longer an exclusive male role. What is exclusively a female role?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 11:28 PM
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Women being expected to work and provide for the family: Shrug, totally irrelevant! Men being expected to clean up after themselves: WHOA!! Now that’s an issue!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 11:19 PM
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And now everyone is expected to do dishes and laundry, so it’s no longer a female role. If I’m not taking on a male role by working for food and shelter, men aren’t taking on a female role by cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 11:07 PM
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OK, so men used to hunt and maintain livestock to put food on the table. Then most men stopped doing that male task. They started working for money to “bring home the bacon,” paying others to do the task. Are you saying that men working to provide food for their family is not masculine? Providing for your family using money is not a traditionally male task?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 10:49 PM
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Because working outside the home for money isn’t a traditionally male task?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 10:44 PM
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The result is still that women aren't doing traditional male tasks. How is working to buy and repair a home not a traditionally male task? Is that a traditionally female task?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 10:30 PM
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traditional male tasks (fix the roof, change the oil in the car, chase burglars, ...) I know about the same percentage of men and women who do these things. But almost everyone I know pays people to do “traditionally male tasks.” I’m a woman who owns my own house. I paid people to replace the roof. My boyfriend would do the same thing at his house. We’d do the same thing if we moved in together. But there would still be dirty dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 10:04 PM
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Great, they can just be equal partners and split the bills and the chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 09:47 PM
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Well, I’m not perfect, so I guess I’ll just keep going to work and paying my bills, and splitting fun dates with my boyfriend while doing my own laundry and dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 09:21 PM
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The bank that holds my mortgage expects it of me. The grocery store expects it of me. The power company expects it of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 09:11 PM
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It’s almost like you need to be a partner to have a partner!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 09:10 PM
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Most women work outside the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 09:04 PM
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Did you not hear that women have jobs now? And manage houses too?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 08:32 PM
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Exploring your sexuality =/= horrible to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 06:48 PM
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So you believe that all men are assholes at heart, and CAN get away with acting on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 05:38 PM
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How does this relate to the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 05:27 PM
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And some people get married and stay married. Having romantic options =/= taking advantage of all the options. What point do you think you’re making?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 05:24 PM
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And other people know how to use condoms. Having romantic options =/= having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 05:21 PM
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So you disagree with the assumption being discussed: hot men treat women poorly, ugly men treat them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:26 AM
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That’s not what it means to be stood up on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:00 AM
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There are plenty of people who stand up dates (not showing up) because they have too much anxiety or low self-confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:54 PM
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the only guys who can afford to do that are hot ones ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:44 PM
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So hot men who are nice don’t have options? Ryan Gosling would be able to get laid unless he’s a jerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:20 PM
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I’m with you. If all men with “options” are assholes, it just means that all men are assholes at heart, but most can’t get away with acting on it or they’ll be lonely and sexless. Even if men are only assholes to women “below their league,” it speaks to their inherent lack of character. How you treat people reflects who you are, not how fat your date is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:55 PM
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Leaving a romantic relationship =/= turning off feelings. The decision to be in a relationship is distinct from the feelings you have for the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:27 PM
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I have refuted it. The common assumption is that because women don’t stay in relationships that are bad for them, they must not love unconditionally. But the decision to leave a relationship is distinct from the feelings you have for a person. I have unconditional love for a number of people. I’m only in a romantic partnership with one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:26 PM
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Love, a feeling, can be unconditional. Relationships should not be unconditional. Even cynics typically believe you can love pets and children unconditionally. But when your dog gets rabies, you put it down. If your child becomes a meth addict and refuses rehab, you cut contact until there’s hope for change. I’ve loved exes unconditionally, but walked away from relationships that are unsafe for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:31 PM
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Why isn’t she allowed to cheat under the same circumstances?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:47 AM
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You could spend 5 minutes on r/deadbedrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:29 AM
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Emotional vulnerability =/= mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:13 AM
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And you think that explains why you would risk your health and wellbeing for something you don’t care about? It does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 02:47 AM
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I made a huge financial investment and took a huge risk to my health and wellbeing to look like this I honestly dont even really care if the operation is successful or not The math isn’t mathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 02:30 AM
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That is not the same thing. Fine being single =/= not wanting a relationship. I can decide that I’m only willing to consider having a python as a pet. Maybe I live somewhere that prohibits having a python as a pet. That doesn’t mean I don’t want a pet. But it doesn’t mean I have to get a cat either. I can decide I’d rather be pet-less than have a cat. And people can decide to be single instead of lowering their standards. That’s not the same as not wanting a relationship with someone who does me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:44 AM
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Nope, it’s OK to have unattainable standards as long as you’re fine being single. No one is required to be in a relationship, so they are not required to have standards that can be met.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:30 AM
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Not interested in long-term risk exposure in the form of STDs or my partner potentially getting another woman pregnant. Edit to add: Also, some people be crazy. It’s exposure to potential drama and disruption.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:07 PM
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Escalating interactions without reciprocity. For example, you smile at someone. They don’t smile back and avoid eye contact. You move close to them anyway. They don’t acknowledge you. You start a conversation anyway. They give monotone closed responses and ask you no questions. You continue talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 10:41 PM
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She works, she keeps in touch with her family, she spends time with friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 06:52 AM
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Almost any woman who wants to have a bunch of social media orbiters or random guys texting her can have it. Men are not saving their thirsting for super attractive women. Getting hit on by men is no great feat. Most people get married. Getting married to someone you didn’t like enough to date exclusively, much less marry, for years doesn’t seem like an accomplishment to me. I only know one stay-at-home mom who isn’t completely miserable. Even she didn’t want to stay at home, but it was the only …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 06:15 AM
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I have no idea what you’re responding to in this post. Women that live life like this are leeches. This hypothetical woman has a job, lives alone, buys her own groceries. Who is she leeching off of?? Not every woman is an instagram addict posting thirst traps all day The post says she posted A photo a week ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 05:41 AM
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Yes, only the elite get to experience going to work, stopping at Starbucks, going grocery shopping, and watching Netflix at home alone. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 05:32 AM
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Multiple texts from your siblings, friends who are girls, You think siblings only text each other if they’re hot women? Only hot women have same sex friends? This entire thing says a lot more about you than anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 05:18 AM
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I’m having trouble understanding the situation you’re describing. Who do you imagine knows who I fuck and gets to have an opinion about it? Who am I cheating out of the right to judge my sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:38 PM
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Where am I personally being inconsistent?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:00 PM
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It’s not just politeness, it’s privacy. No one else is entitled to know what I do and don’t find sexually attractive. That’s private information I can choose to share under the appropriate circumstances. When my coworker asks “How are you?” I don’t tell him the details of my period cramps. Not all information is for everyone. It’s not just politeness, but boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:29 PM
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I’m tempted to eat two pieces of cheesecake. I’m not FORCED to eat two pieces of cheesecake. Those are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 07:43 AM
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Then why do you say a man with options “might” slip up? That’s not forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 07:39 AM
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Why exercise them at some point? If he loves sex more than anything else and is forced by his body to be promiscuous, how and why would he ever not exercise his options? If you ever say no to sex you’d, your body isn’t forcing you to be promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:29 AM
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So a married man who doesn’t cheat must be in an unhealthy environment?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:25 AM
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all men who wanna be promiscuous, have multiple women, cheat and have lots of hook ups are doing it because their bodies are forcing them to do it What about the men who don’t want to be promiscuous? Are they also forced to be promiscuous against their will? Because of hormones?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:23 AM
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Which gender pays more child support? Whichever takes care of their kid less. Which gender receives more welfare for being single parent? Whichever takes care of their kid more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:47 PM
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I’m not aware of any jurisdiction that requires child support payments during pregnancy. After birth, women can walk out the door on their two legs just like men. Women who are not custodial parents are required to pay child support. The laws aren’t gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:47 PM
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Child support laws apply to both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:39 PM
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Who said anything about shaming women? It’s a quote from your post. You're paying for a safety net, I'm paying for nothing. I’m not capable of procreating. Are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:38 PM
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rather than the mother be shamed for having a child she couldn't afford to take care of? You want women to be shamed (but not men) and think that’s equality. If you think other people not taking care of you is "social punishment" you might be entitled. Again, I’m childless and pay taxes for other peoples kids because they can’t support them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:16 PM
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And that's the beauty of my point! The point is no one other than the two individuals should pay for it! Are you forgetting that you said societal consequences for one of those people would be “equality?” Your post doesn’t advocate for “hands off.” That wasn’t your point. Your post advocates for social punishment of one gender for the consequences of mistakes made by both genders. That is not equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:48 AM
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So what? It’s his choice whether to pay for his own fucking kid so I don’t have to. The existence of the child is not the issue here, the expense of the child is. Man: Impregnates a woman who doesn’t abort. Woman: Gets pregnant by a man who doesn’t support his kid. Each makes a “mistake” that could be solved by the other person, who could keep the mistake from increasing my taxes. Both failed. No reason for me to be more resentful of one than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:35 AM
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No connection to our exchange. Kids hypothetically having no societal value has zero impact on whether shaming one gender for a mistake of both genders is “equality.” “Pumping and dumping” is a selfish act that increases my tax burden! Speeding doesn’t have societal value. That doesn’t make it “equality” to only give traffic tickets to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:22 AM
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And you’re claiming that shaming the only person taking any responsibility would be “equality.” I’m pointing out how stupid that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:12 AM
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why should an unrelated man be expected to pay for said child that he doesn't care about rather than the mother be shamed for having a child she couldn't afford to take care of? Only shaming one half of a couple that makes a child is not “equality.” A man who impregnates a woman with a child he can’t afford is also making a “mistake” the rest of us are paying for. Women pay taxes too. I’m a childless and childfree woman that pays more taxes for the public school system than the average working m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:05 AM
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Literally the title. do you believe that you have the same strengths as Tate? Or are you saying his only strength was running his mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 02:06 AM
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We’re talking about the guy in jail? Was he protecting women before when he was a sex trafficker, or is he protecting women now by being incarcerated?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 08:22 PM
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vibing, only for them not to ask my name or leave right after introductions I’m amazed at how easily you get rejected in the West on a daily basis How is that rejection? I’m not “rejecting” every person I make small talk with but don’t make friends with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 07:07 PM
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Less that 50% of single men own homes. More than 50% of single women own homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 11:11 PM
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makes it easier for men to be optimistic and have a positive outlook on life. Can you cite sources that demonstrate this is actually the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 11:09 PM
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FOR WHOM
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 04:33 AM
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Why would you ask the question if you don’t give a shit about the meaning of the question? What a stupid post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 04:27 AM
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Worse for whom? By what metric?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 04:17 AM
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“Change your View” to what? The opposite of this is: “People don’t care if their romantic partners have a single positive quality.” Of course you have to have something to offer!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:46 PM
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Quick question: Are men rude to women? Or are they just as afraid of violence from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:29 AM
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I’ve had men threaten to murder me for ignoring catcalling, so I agree that men’s violence is a huge issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:10 AM
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And have you assaulted any men for not telling you what time it is? Or have they all told you what time it was because they thought you’d assault them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:09 AM
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Definition of an anecdote: “a short amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person.” Nope, it was not that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:44 PM
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Cool stealth edits! There are more female drivers in the US. https://www.statista.com/statistics/198017/total-number-of-us-licensed-drivers-in-2009-by-gender/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:42 PM
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Oh, what are your stats based on? Oh right, you have none. Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:37 PM
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“Made rude gesture/honked at another driver Men: 35.4% Women: 28%”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:30 PM
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Issue: Male violence makes men talk to strangers out of fear. Male violence makes women avoid strangers out of fear. You: Women sure are rude! Lolololol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:25 PM
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-road rage, woman definitely get road rage way more than men do. AAA: “Survey Says: Men Are More Aggressive Behind the Wheel AAA urges motorists to keep their cool as research shows differences between men and women regarding aggressive driving behavior” https://newsroom.aaa.com/2020/12/survey-says-men-are-more-aggressive-behind-the-wheel/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:16 PM
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“Men have to talk to complete strangers unwillingly out of fear of being physically assaulted by other men. This shows how rude women are.” Bruh….
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:05 PM
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If a man is attracted to a woman, he needs to be able to write a deep reflective essay on why he wants to date her or have sex with her. Are you in a facility or something? Who is making you write these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:56 AM
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Putting something in a search bar doesn’t make it exist. That’s why you couldn't share the “study” in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:57 PM
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I can make a graph that says anything I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:53 PM
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That is not a source. That is a blog post with a broken link.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:49 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:43 PM
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No, I don’t think I can dumb it down any further.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:37 PM
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What proportion of men are not good looking? Is that the same proportion of men who are virgins until they get married? To a not-young woman? Or is there a group of men who aren’t good-looking who still manage to date women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:26 PM
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To make sure we’re following… Mid-life crisis with woman who wasn’t promiscuous: stay together Mid-life crisis with woman who was promiscuous: stay together and cheat on her This is your proposal?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:39 PM
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How is wanting different things at different points in your life “backtracking” or “flip flopping” on your values? A person getting a job after college isn’t backtracking on valuing education. A person retiring at 65 isn’t backtracking on working. Having children when you’re ready isn’t backtracking on not having kids before you’re ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:12 PM
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How is a single person being promiscuous exercising a lack of good faith??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:59 PM
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STDs aren’t a social construct. If you don’t want to be exclusive, don’t agree to be exclusive (and don’t ask another person to be exclusive with you). If you don’t want to be married, don’t get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:20 PM
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Just don’t marry the “old woman” in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:00 PM
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Expecting single people to act single and married people to act married is not a double standard. It’s up to each person to decline marriage if you do not want to actually be married.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:59 PM
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You don’t understand why people are stigmatized for violating commitment that they chose to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:31 PM
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A dollar = a dollar. That’s literally the point of money. But Woman A =/= Woman B. Being married to someone who gave you STDs, emptied the bank account, and is thinking about stabbing you in your sleep is not of greater value than being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:47 AM
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I though nobody had STDs? You: Hardly anyone get’s STD’s in developed countries. You: Yep, because no-one gets them and if you do, in the very rare chance, they’re cleared up with drugs in a week or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:28 PM
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How does that relate to your claim?? I think alot more women will be willing to have NSA sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 05:23 PM
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It’s also very rare to see a man “trap” a woman with a pregnancy Reproductive coercion is extremely common in abusive relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 05:10 PM
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Women already have access to a variety of birth control methods with 99.9+% effectiveness, the morning after pill, and abortion in most developed countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 05:08 PM
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hepatitis B herpes simplex virus (HSV) HIV human papillomavirus (HPV) drug-resistant strains of gonorrhea
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:54 PM
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Then explain what’s holding women back from NSA sex now when they currently have access to a variety of birth control methods and don’t have much problem with condoms. What current barrier to NSA sex does this remove for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:51 PM
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I think alot more women will be willing to have NSA sex but less in monogamous relationships Lol, why?? Does this invention magically cure the world of STDs?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:36 AM
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Attraction has no bearing on paying. I’d always prefer to pay for myself on first dates, whether I’m into the guy or not. But if he doubles down on paying for me, I let him, because I’m not interested in arguing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:29 AM
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You’ve now described both genders seeking achievement for social reward, then burning out/giving up when it’s unrewarding… and you’ve decided this means men are “driven” and women are not. That does not make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 08:33 PM
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don't have as much of drive as men So you disagree with the post? You think men are internally driven to work? It’s women who work for social reward?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:21 PM
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What is your explanation for why women participate in society? Why do women get higher degrees and “give their best years to their boss?”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 05:11 AM
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So, when you said you “tried it,” you meant what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:36 AM
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Many women have also tried it, decided it didn’t work for them, and have chosen to return to the workforce as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:32 AM
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Do you have or are you seeking a romantic partner to be the breadwinner to save you from working?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:25 AM
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You deal with the lack of resources. He deals with the corporation/client/boss. So what? You made a false distinction between being “at the mercy of” a corporation/client/ boss and being at the mercy of a husband. If my husband’s boss can make ME homeless, I’m sure as shit at their mercy! Working means being at the mercy of the employment market. Relying on a working husband means being at the mercy of the employment market AND a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:03 AM
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Divorcing is easy. Division of assets is a pain. You may have a personal definition of divorce that is unique to you, and foreign to everyone else who lives on this planet. Of course. But you don't have to deal with them. If a corporation decides to fire my husband, the only wage earner in my family, I very much have to “deal with” it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:49 AM
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That wasn’t the comparison. Switching husbands means initiating and completing a DIVORCE AND MARRYING a new husband. For most of US history, women were not guaranteed the right to do the former at all. It isn’t exactly effortless now, especially if your ex isn’t cooperating. Most people can find a job with less effort. Regarding the rest of the comment, if working means being dependent on a corporation/boss/client, depending on someone working is still being dependent on a corporation/boss/clien…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:34 AM
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No its not. You can’t be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:19 AM
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It’s a lot easier to switch jobs than switch husbands, especially before no fault divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:08 AM
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No one said failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:55 AM
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People meet others alone such as for hookup situations all the time. If most women have only met <10 strangers for hookups in their entire lives, they have not done it “all the time” and have had much less exposure than with men they know. No but they meet more strangers in terms of numbers If you’re talking about all strangers, not the ones invited to a woman’s home, we’re back to pretending to be surprised that women aren’t raped in line at Starbucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 11:05 PM
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Why do you believe that the average woman has had sex at home with more complete strangers than known male guests at her home? Let’s say the average woman has 10 total sexual partners (which is TWICE what CDC surveys suggest). Let’s say 8 of them were hookups at home with complete strangers. Why not! You’re truly saying that the average woman has not had EIGHT boyfriends, male friends, acquaintances, and male relatives in her home? Total, ever??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 10:55 PM
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“All the time” COMPARED TO WHAT? Are you trying to tell me that women spend more total time in their home with complete strangers than with people they have met before?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 10:42 PM
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Women meet strangers all the time IN PUBLIC. Neither strangers nor people I know are sexually assaulting me in Starbucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 10:30 PM
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This is massively stupid. You are more likely to be sexually assaulted by the people who have the opportunity to sexually assault you. People you know are more likely to be alone with you your home, in their home, in cars, etc. There is zero reason to believe that strangers would be less likely to assault you if you gave them the same amount of opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 10:25 PM
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This is still a step away from the difference. Most sexual interactions are physically enjoyable for men. Men are more likely to have orgasms, and less likely to be in pain. Many sexual interactions are not enjoyable for women. Women are less likely to experience pleasure, and more likely to experience pain (in addition to the many other unequal risks like pregnancy, worse std effects, sexual violence, and stigma). Men and women make rational choices to increase positive experiences and avoid ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 08:34 PM
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STDs are tangible
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 06:59 PM
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Social =/= Dominant
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 06:31 PM
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I didn’t know that Jerry decided what was socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:54 PM
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How is a young woman who exclusively dates higher earning older men not a gold digger?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:34 PM
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It’s bad but you’re the only one who’s allowed to say that? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:31 PM
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Isn’t this the exact thing you’re saying people aren’t allowed to criticize?? they call those younger women, gold diggers and dumb bimbos that will use them for their money
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:26 PM
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American men in their 20s to 35s make an average of $30,500 to $510,000 a year. How do you figure??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:12 PM
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You understand that you’re contradicting your post, right? Both men and women focus on the physical when it’s what they have to go on. That doesn’t prove that women are MORE shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:23 PM
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Not wanting to get pregnant, raped, or contract an STD isn’t SHALLOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:41 PM
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