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So why would it be different from female virginity? There is no cultural idea that your "basic function is to reproduce". Proof? When you have sex but no children, you are not seen as a loser.
/r/MensRights14/08/17 12:50 PM
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Nothing you described is particularly relevant for the relationship to last or not to last, in my opinion. What is relevant: Are they committed to each other or are they (secretly) still on the lookout for someone better. Do they work on the relationship and their issues with it. That includes trying to become more attractive to their significant other Are they compatible in things like: Plans for the future, character, communication style and frequency, lifestyle, background, philosophy/religio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 11:26 AM
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Could be, but it could also be the picture of the guy playing. You know, the wind player just kind of standing there and tooting into his instrument, while string, piano and guitar players tend to move a lot more, or looking more elegant while holding their instrument (or sitting in front of it). So the real question is: What about violists? String player, but with no status. Even negative status, lol. And sorry, but the tubists I know all suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 01:13 PM
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A man who can't get laid because he can't initiate (because he doesn't have the confidence to!) is not an incel, imo. Not in the true sense of the word. He's mentally ill, as I was. The true sense of the word is involuntary celibate. Not being able to initiate is not voluntary. It can be, sure, as I understand it is in my case (and I'm not mentally ill), but not generally. And lack of confidence is only one reason for not being able to initiate. Can be cluelessness, phobia, speech impediment, ..…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:29 AM
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Okay, I kind of think you're right, but I'm going to challenge your view nontheless. I think the more important aspect of it is validation. A girl wanting to have sex with you is a really big signal of "You are awesome!". And she is not just saying it, but acting on it, and you get a rush of endorphins along with it. Yay, orgasm! But you can get validation from other sources. Like, women showing interest in you, but you not acting on it. Maybe you didn't recognize it at the time, but in hindsigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 08:18 AM
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You can't really think that your experience is comparable with incels? You just deluded yourself into thinking you were unlovable. While having a boyfriend, no less! They, on the other hand, have actually experienced it (having no success at all with the opposite sex), and not just for two years at age 18, but many for over 10 years. You were just thinking you were ugly, while really being pretty. They (in many cases) are ugly, or at least only average. Incels have reasons to believe they are ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 08:08 AM
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What's happening here? OP asks a question about masculinity in general, and every woman just posts her personal wishlist of traits she finds attractive? It's not the same, guys! How are intelligence and laid-back personality specifically masculine traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 10:26 PM
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My experience tells me that men don't care if they feel an emotional connection to their partner OK, it took me a minute to decipher that sentence, English should really use more commata. And I'm confused, because one post ago you said that men supposedly do care (about women being slutty). So you agree that guys may offer you commitment because of the good aspects of your sexuality while not caring for the bad ones? Because that was my original point: Your status as an exceptional casual sex pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:03 PM
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the fact that I'm super sexually open is supposed to be a turn off not a plus. I meant in the sense of "open to many sexual practices". You don't have to be convinced to try out this or that, you probably insist on it yourself (from what you have described). I would guess many guys would think "This is awesome, I'd like to have this all the time." Bam, committed. You being slutty doesn't really go into it, or if it does, it's not as important to these men. The guys ­that don't want slutty women …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:57 AM
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Like you say that your experience has been like mine, but you agree with RP. Why? Firstly, this was (unlike you) one girl. That's hardly enough to base anything on. Her commitment issues stemmed from the fact that her parents were in an unhappy marriage, where her mother didn't divorce because she was dependent on him. That has nothing to do with my girlfriend being female, obviously. Many guys today have the feeling they can get fucked over by a bad woman (alimony, divorce rape...), too. And th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:34 AM
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This is it. It also explains OP's stance. She admitted to having (or having had) commitment issues, so it's no wonder she acted as the gatekeeper. I think I agree with TRP on this one: It's more often the men who don't want to commit as soon. Even though my own limited experience was the other way round: I'm committing rather quickly, while Girlfriend had issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 08:52 AM
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If something changes and he somehow looses his other advantages in her eyes, he will quickly become less than worthy and she's likely to look elsewhere. But surely that can happen with looks too? You lose your sexy figure and she becomes disinterested? And that usually happens quicker than developing bad character traits. In fact, it's virtually guaranteed that you lose your looks at some point. Building a relationship on personality seems much more stable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 10:05 PM
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You probably can't know beyond all doubt. You can't even know it as the settler. Even when you don't even think you're settling. You will always have to compromise somewhere. And there will always be someone that you may think "Huh, maybe he/she would have been an even better partner." But chasing after perfection is stupid, because it will never end. At some point you just have to put your foot down and choose. And then stick with the decision. I mean, I get that accepting this is hard. My sist…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:42 PM
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when a woman decides he's not as hot as the rest, but he's a really great guy. But is that really that bad? I mean, most people have to accept they're not Chad at some point. Yes, you can improve yourself, but only to a certain point. I think there is a difference between settling as in "I really would want to get with Chad, but can't (anymore), so I grudgingly have to take someone like you." shudder, that's bad. But what about "I used to think Chad was the guy for me, but I learned he's just no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:49 PM
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Alright, I agree. At least if it's said without context. If it's said within a discussion of what we like about each other, it would be fine. Still might sting a little, but that's due to insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:03 PM
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I don't know, to be honest. Probably wouldn't like it. Even though I know, accept and like that I'm more Volkswagen than Ferrari. Or maybe Škoda. Though I'm sure I wouldn't take it as hard as you. Because you're the ferrari and get offended when someone thinks you're the Volkswagen. And because Germans are blunt, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:50 PM
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you settle for even though there's better out there. I don't think it means better. Just different. I wouldn't want to drive a ferrari even if money weren't an issue. Just not my type of car, and I wouldn't want to be seen as that kind of guy, and I don't like that it guzzles so much more gas, etc. I might take it out for a quick ride on the Autobahn, though. Yeah, I'm not sure if you really can translate that to relationships. But you will always have to settle in some way. No SO is perfect in …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:08 PM
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Wait, what's so offensive about that? The comparison of women with cars? Or that he values low maintenance more than beauty? Or that he recognizes there are less beautiful women? Also, it's Volkswagen. German here, I have to defend my automobile heritage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:50 PM
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Actually, having money tends to make you more attractive directly! I'd like to contest that. Just my personal experience, though, I may belong to a minority on that. Money tends to buy you this typical celebrity look. Lots of makeup, voluminous hair, meticulously sculpted nails... I don't find that attractive at all. I like when I can see that they're doing something with their hands – short nails, callus. I really prefer the natural look, and it's not just "oh, he just wants her to have natural…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 03:33 PM
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Let's have a crack at this, shall we? Masculinity is commonly defined as being strong, muscular, tough, confident, assertive, charming, etc. etc. Well, firstly, this is just culturally defined and therefore, somewhat arbitrary. It's a bit ill-chosen to assign a word to it that calls into question the identity of a person (his gender) just because he's not conforming to a list of arbitrary qualities. It's hard to see being "not masculine" as anything but an insult for a man. Therefore, if a man c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 12:59 AM
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I look forward to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 04:03 PM
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This is very good advice. This is exactly what I did wrong in my university years. Well except #5.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 12:53 AM
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I think I love you. Military history is a very unusual interest for a woman, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 03:09 PM
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Well, in my mind (after thinking about it), "challenging" you would be a situation like this: When I call out something about you that I don't like, for example the way you treat/communicate with a certain common friend; I might talk to you about it, like “Have you thought about listening more to him? You are always talking much more than hearing what he has to say.” And you might try to implement that and thus better yourself. Whereas the guy that many describe as a “doormat” (I don’t like this…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 02:56 PM
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I've read this whole thread and still don't know what you all mean by “challenging”. And I'm not sure you and /u/sublimemongrel mean the same thing. Because she says it's “being on the same level”, while you seem to think of an action to which the partner has to respond in some way. Also, do you think you being difficult to date as a bad thing or a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 02:32 PM
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Restraining female sexuality wouldn't do anything about that, would it? If you're not getting any sex now, you won't be getting any sex then either. If you study STEM to be attractive to women, you're doing it wrong. Study it because you enjoy it. You're worrying way too much about female validation. Being violent, aggressive and unintelligent isn't better than being kind and intelligent. The latter traits are already their own reward. Again, you're worrying too much about women, while not seein…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 11:14 PM
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Crap, now I have to wait 5 years before dating again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:57 PM
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Yes, but that's not skewing it by much. The difference by men who have 100+ partners is much higher. OK, they are also fewer. Yeah, we need to see the actual statistics about this. I have no time right now, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:13 PM
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OK, tbh, I don't know what I'm talking about. But I would think that you're platonic friends first and then you give each other the benefits. Looking for a friend with the intent to have sex is just dating/casual sex, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:11 PM
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Or they might be waiting because maybe they themselves don't want sex on the first few dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 04:52 PM
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That doesn't really sound like a fwb situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 04:51 PM
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It's not "The average man has 9 sexual partners" (or seven, that's the statistic I know), it's "the average number of sexual partners of a man". It's skewed by men with a very high number of partners. The number for the average man (i.e. the median) will be lower. Maybe 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 04:16 PM
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What kind of effort? Seeking friends specifically who are amenable to the idea? Seducing them? What? I'm pretty sure none of my female friends would be interested in a FWB arrangement. And I'm not even talking about the religious ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 04:12 PM
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Who doesn't test people before they let them into their life? Virtually everyone. Do you really think everyone tests all his relationships first?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 04:01 PM
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You have to tailor your approach to who you are. Again, this sounds exactly like it would be difficult to do. If I wanted casual sex, I really wouldn't know how to do it. Probably open a tinder profile, but apart from that – no idea. I'm not living in a big city, so there isn't really much nightlife. Maybe I could check out a student club or something – there is a small university here. The people in my friend circles aren't interested in casual sex, either. I'm still going to disagree with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 03:19 PM
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So how do average men get casual sex? Yes, it's a stupid, but honest question. Tinder? Friends with benefits? Getting to know people at some activity? I'm ignorant, because I'm not after casual sex at all and have never tried to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 02:59 PM
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Ah. You're claiming most men who want to get laid are not successful because they're too picky. I don't know. I think you're wrong about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 02:49 PM
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Huh. It would seem to me that yes, this means exactly that it's hard for them. Please elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 02:38 PM
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Yes, that's how it should go. I'm just asking because I have read some PUA/RP stuff where they basicly say "It doesn't mean anything, you can still seduce her, it's just LMR, she is just testing your resolve/manliness/whatever..."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 11:16 PM
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Not that shortly. And I reject your argument "From a bio stand point, we live solely to reproduce." No, that's just taking the evolutional, genetical perspective. You abstract from the individual to its genes and the gene pool of the species. From that perspective, everything after reproduction isn't interesting anymore. But it makes no sens to take that particular scientific viewpoint and for some reason elevate it to a philosophy of life purpose. I mean, we can talk about life purpose all day …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 12:15 AM
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From a biological standpoint, an organisms entire purpose is to reproduce. No it isn't. Biology doesn't talk about "purpose". It's a construct, it's maybe used as a shorthand, but there is no purpose. You can only talk about purpose on a higher level, i. e. philosophically. Also, if the entire purpose was to reproduce, you could simply shut down when that is accomplished. Some species do that. If it was really true for humans, why doesn't everybody kill himself once his children are grown up?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 10:30 PM
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What if she says beforehand that sex is off the table? Because I think redpillers will think that that's just for plausible deniability, and assume implied consent or something...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 08:31 AM
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If she wants a relationship with the guy, why is she waiting to have sex? She doesn't know yet whether she wants a relationship with this guy. She's waiting because sex only does it for her when she knows the guy intimately, has trust, and is at least well on her way to a relationship. Think about what the act of consciously waiting to have sex implies. It implies responsibility and a high value ascribed to sex. You think it implies she doesn't have "tingles", but you're wrong. Maybe she has, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 08:18 AM
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...make out a bit? Give a real, genuine indication that you like the guy? Isn't it possible to do that by, you know, talking? Doesn't making out above all raise the expectation of sex at the end of the date? If she's making out without wanting sex this time, doesn't that count as "leading him on" for you, when you even count dating as leading him on? That said, women who consciously avoid sex even when they want it because of "reasons" wind up shooting themselves in the feet. I think guys who in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 08:02 AM
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So what's a girl supposed to do that wants a relationship, but not sleep with the guy on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 10:58 PM
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OK, you are being personal, so I'm answering personally. I'm probably comparable to you. I'm 32, a mathematician, doing my PhD (after some work in technical research), speak 5 languages (OK, three of those are rather limited), and also do many different activities and hobbies, like leading my own choir. People tell me I'm decent looking too. And I guess, being a mathematician, I should add that I'm not socially awkward. There are three issues with women like you. Yes, I think I am a bit intimida…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 09:47 PM
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Well, like always, it depends on the definition of Alpha. There seem to be at least three common ones: Alpha = gets the most sex / has the most sexual partners: Yes, Redpill thinks those are mostly assholes. Blue pill disagrees. Alpha = most masculine (mainly: Aggressiveness): This includes violence and maybe a lack of empathy, but not necessarily self-interestedness, emotional deficit and bitterness. Alpha = natural leader in his peer group: This is mostly opposite to the traits you mentioned. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 06:26 PM
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I'd be. Intelligence is the the most attractive thing in a woman, in my opinion. Yeah, most men don't really care as much, probably. Or they select in both directions: Not too smart and not too stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 04:18 PM
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No. You do have to accept your singleness and arrange your life accordingly, but that doesn't mean you become asexual or demisexual. Also, that's not what these words mean. Sexual orientation is supposedly immutable, isn't it? At least not easily changed just by circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 09:54 AM
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I do agree with your conclusion, but not with your reasoning. Yes, hardship, more than anything else, shapes who we are and how we react. That's true for men too. Hardship can make you more gracious, more understanding of the plight of others. More thankful for the good things you enjoy everyday. I don't know whether these are feminine traits. And not everyone will have these kinds of personality changes, many women might harden instead. Anyway, the reasons you provided are off. The 50s and East…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 09:50 AM
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Multiple issues with that: Standard complaint: People are different. Some women select for intelligence, some don't. I think the majority does select for intelligence, but not that strongly, i.e. they don't all want the 140 IQ guy, but are content with a similar or slightly higher intelligence than themselves. Intelligent women want intelligent men. The observation that guys who are "successful with women" (definition? Have many different women? Cause people that just have one long relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 01:08 AM
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You are doing the exact same thing, just from the opposite: Painting the picture of a typical jock and claiming he is the "average" guy. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:02 PM
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I don't know... it's not that rare, I think. Not in my circles, anyway. I have two older sisters who are perpetual singles (can't really know about their virginity, but I strongly suspect it). I know many others, relations, in church... I don't really know how okay they are with their status, but when you are older than 30, you kinda have learned to accept it. Yes, some of them are frustrated (and vocal about it), but most are happy, cheerful people. And I've met quite a few virgins (or at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 08:42 AM
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It resets the cycle. You are coming to terms with the traits of your partner that you noticed. These traits ("Reality") previously led you to want to give up the marriage ("Resignation"). Many people at this point might actually give up and separate. But if you battle through it, you might "restore" your relationship and get to be "romantic" again. At least, that's how I interpret it. Pretty basic stuff. I really didn't hear much about it... it was part of a marriage seminar at our church, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 10:17 PM
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one night stands show how much people believe that you can definitely separate love and sex. I know that, of course. But for me, it doesn't work. Not only morally, but I have no inclination for ONS. Doesn't really give me anything. Either way, wouldn't you want to know what you like? What do you mean? Whether or not I like sex, or which specific sexual acts? Yes, I would want to know. When I'm in a relationship. If you are not finding out what really does it for you, how will you be able to disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 10:09 PM
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Just last weekend I learned of the "cycle of the 4 Rs": Romance - Reality - Resignation - Restoration - ... That's from a marriage councillor. So yeah, romance is part of marriage, but it's only one fourth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 09:51 PM
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Sex is inseperably connected to love. Really, as someone who has had sex, it completely is not. Why? Because you make that statement, but the rest of your comment stresses that it's the relationship that's the main thing, not the sex. And I agree to that. Sex is something that enhances a love connection Didn't I say just that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 08:51 PM
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At some point in my life (after I came out of a pretty deep hole I had dug for myself) I looked back and was very surprised to notice all the girls that had probably been into me in the past. At the time, I just didn't see them or didn't believe it was possible they could have a crush on me. And then I talked to my sister and she gave me two more examples that I would never have thought of... So maybe it's the same with you... some girls you didn't notice might have been totally into you. OK, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 08:48 PM
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OK, that doesn't sound like you're asexual. Maybe demisexual, but I don't even really know what that is. And you're only 26. Everything is possible. Look at C.S. Lewis, "Surprised by Joy"... So in the meantime, let's enjoy the single life!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 08:42 PM
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No. Sex is inseperably connected to love. It's not at all comparable to a city I travel to or a tool to try out. I've been in love, but I never progressed in a relationship far enough to be ready to have sex. Only got to second base so far. That was already wonderful, and I absolutely don't regret not rushing it* and jump to sex immediately (like people seem to do it usually). *Sorry for the triple negation ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 03:48 PM
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It was just more of liking her and perhaps trying to date her, as she was very pretty. This sounds similar to me. I didn't mean "sexually attracted" as in having an urge to jump her, undress her and do whatever... that would be pretty alarming for a virgin (or in any case...). But an urge to be near her, talk, look into her eyes and maybe to touch, that would already be enough, I think. Can a virgin really differentiate between romantic and sexual attraction? Or is that already demisexuality? I …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 01:08 PM
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I don't get it. I can't really imagine it to be unpleasant, because I imagine it as a expression of my love. You embrace, kiss, make out, one thing follows another, and it's all very organic. You just want to be near your partner, give her everything. Yeah, that's probably a silly virgin's dream :). But if you see it as something to "get it over with", as just a satisfaction of your lust, as a mechanical, animal-like sporting event, yeah, I can see why that might be unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 12:58 PM
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Yes, I see that too (on the internet, never in my personal life, but they probably kept it to themselves). I never really understood it. To me, it seems just like group pressure – you need to get it over with because otherwise you are mocked as a virgin. Or maybe it got hammered into you that you aren't a real man if you haven't done it. Stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 12:52 PM
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Did you have the urge to pursue a relationship or friendship with them? Did you feel sexual attraction? For me, I do feel sexual attraction and the urge to pursue the women I like. I have often not acted on it (just didn't really know what to do – that's another reason I'm still virgin), but it's there. I just wouldn't pursue casual sex, or even, sex early in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 07:29 AM
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I never understood that, frankly. Why the hell would I "get it over with"? That sounds like it would be something unpleasant, that I want to get out of the way to enjoy whatever comes after.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 07:26 AM
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This could have been written by me. Except that I'm 32. I'm also a virgin, for much the same reasons as you, and fine with it. And I'm not asexual either. Reading the internet or reddit, however, you get the image that everybody has had lots of sex, with multiple partners, or else is whining about not getting any (or enough). Part of that is probably that people like us don't post too much on the internet – why should we? We have other interests, that's one of the reasons we are virgins in the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 07:21 AM
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What makes him beta? I would have thought him an alpha—at least, the early 19th century equivalent: very rich aloof admired by many (his sister, his housekeeper), including high-value women (Miss Bingley) has many responsibilities—his estate, his sister—people under his command, and handles them well does not heed the wishes of higher-standing people, namely his aunt. Very big contrast to Beta Mr. Collins.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 03:43 PM
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Ah. Thanks. I was wondering about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 09:34 AM
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A mix of moral/religious reasons (no interest in sex outside of relationships), cluelessness, bad luck, having personal problems to deal with, being busy, having high standards, and probably half a dozen other things at different times in my past. None of these would suffice on their own, but together they usher me in an era of purity and innocence. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 09:33 AM
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Yeah, "High Alpha" or something would have been the better term.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 11:00 PM
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Interesting. But the problem with such a scheme is: It doesn't fit men who aren't playing the same game. This is essentially about how much sex one gets and how casual it is (the more, the better). Not all men are after this. So either you need a big "other" category, or you try to fit them in by declaring one criterion (maybe n-count) as most important, or you simply disregard them. I'm a virgin, but not an incel. I'm not insecure, I can talk to women and detect their interest, I have female fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 10:38 PM
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Well, maybe they just didn't care to teach you or didn't know how. Or didn't have the time – I mean, it would (if possible) probably require multiple one-on-one sessions. That's normally what speech therapists are for (I think). In any case, mocking and insulting you is just mean, bad and uncalled for. I hope you have made your peace with it and find other ways to enjoy music and/or art.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 07:12 PM
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Yes, I had. And I am a very active non-professional musician, and by that also know very many professionals (of the classical variety). Tone-deaf people, non-musical people and such are never mocked, but mostly not thought about at all, or otherwise maybe pitied or seen as targets for education. But that maybe a case of "didn't experience it myself, so it doesn't exist". I may just have forgotten or never really paid attention to these kinds of insults. Still, I believe they didn't occur in my p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 06:38 PM
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Care to elaborate? Sure. I hope I can form a coherent argument. The notion of biological imperative, as I understand it, says: It is the foremost duty of every species to procreate, because only thus can the survival of the genes be ensured. Or more specifically, your genes only survive if you procreate. Firstly, I think the first of those two statements is nearer to the truth: It's the species' survival that's at stake. Many species exhibit behavior that forgoes procreation of certain individua…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 06:30 PM
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gamers (insulting casuals), musicians (insulting non-hipsters), athletes (insulting less athletic people) No, they don't. They simply ignore them. I've never heard a musician insult non-musicians, and what has that to do with hipsters, anyway? You're literally failing at life. There is no biological imperative. That's such a weird construct. I'm not the slave of my genes. If they want to procreate, they can take care of that themselves. Besides, no one mocks sexually successful people that are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 05:35 AM
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Define "best". It depends on your values. If your goal is to just get laid as much as possible, idk, perhaps red pill is the way to go (although that would still depend on your environment and personality).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 04:46 AM
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Part of it is an in-group/out-group thing, but that's only when it gets into detail. I also like to listen to my sister talking about her painting (but don't care too much about the composition of her colours). Or my friend doing magic tricks and how he surprised people with them. It's not just when I share that hobby. The alternative you suggest: "shit your parents did, people you've met who were odd"... that sounds it might get boring more quickly for me. People are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 07:41 PM
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Yes. You know the joke about the extroverted mathematician? While talking, he looks at your shoes... Well, being a mathematician and having worked a lot with engineers: The tendencies are there, but there are still many very social well-versed people, as well. The most "player"-like person I got to know was an engineer I worked with. Also, it always looks different from inside the groups than from the outside. We have our own group structures and social behaviors... as you undoubtedly know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 06:53 PM
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Yes, it may well be projecting. On the other hand, I have heard women say enough times that they love a man who has interesting hobbies. What is interesting varies, of course (and very rarely includes gaming :) ). There are exceptions -- I do love that my boyfriend has set up programs to help the underprivileged through community engagement etc. That's not weird it all, I think very many women would find that attractive. Also, it's "alpha": Taking responsibility, being active and resolving a pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 06:47 PM
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So what you mean is psych students are more socially dominant than tech people? So if you put 10 psych students and 10 mechanical engineers into a room and give them some task, the psych students will be those who take the leadership positions? Maybe I can even agree to that. Still, it's very vague, and there is much more at play here than alpha/betaness. For instance, psych students have to be more intelligent (at least where I come from, they need top grades).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 06:33 PM
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Tbh, not many people have a million hobbies after high school. Huh. That strikes me as something cultural, again. Where I come from, everyone has hobbies. Music (listening, playing), sports, games, photography, painting, building things, magic, politics, religion, writing, filming, horses are common. Not to mention all the nerdy ones like keyboard layouts, math, hacking... All of those occur in my limited circle of friends. And I care about those when I get to know people. It's what they are pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 06:18 PM
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You're stating Alphas would choose therapist/psychologist as a career path, more so than STEM? Because they envision themselves being exposed to crazy people? Psychologists don't work mainly in prisons. Some do. Maybe those are alphas, I don't know. I know enough psychologists to know they are just normal people, not specially alphas. Actually, I would reeeeally like to know what an alpha is supposed to be exactly. Everyone seems to have some vague notion of it (yeah, me too), and everyone's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 06:05 PM
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There is nothing specific to STEM in your argument. You can say exactly the same about business careers (becoming an accountant), social stuff (becoming a social worker or therapist or whatever), retail, everything. Your selection of suitable alpha careers is extremely narrow. Also, open to attack. Firefighters? Most of those just follow orders and apply their training. Sure, they have to be athletic, but that's all. And chefs? How are they specifically alpha at all? You're just throwing around …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 10:41 AM
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Thank you, that was very interesting and educational. I totally agree, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 10:20 AM
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Also I have an IQ of 140+ -- I was an extremely gifted child, to the point of it being...freaky/noticeable. I need a lot of mental stimulation or I get bored. I went to a school for highly gifted children, still got bored and skipped 3 years, starting uni when I was 15. I was deemed a prodigy. Minds like that aren't generally best suited to being a SAHM and my parents got that. No, in my experience, it is more a function of upbringing and character, and the resulting drive and ambition, than of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 08:47 AM
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I get as far as eating body image issues and eating disorders... sure thing. And sure, I know enough girls in school or elsewhere dressing up for the boys and trying to be sexy. But also many, many girls who couldn't care less, who's clothing and makeup style (if any) just aimed to be pretty or comfortable to themselves, and who only laughed about girly or women's magazines, if at all. The mental leap from these issues to "perform sexuality", as in, moan and fake orgasm, that I do not accept. Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 01:00 PM
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I don't believe you. I think that might be specific to your upbringing or your cultural background. At least it's no general statement about "women". I'm pretty sure the women in my circles did not learn how to perform sexuality from "a very young age". Sure, I'm probably an outlier. But so are you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 12:36 PM
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Women learn how to perform sexuality for men from a very young age. What do you mean? That statement just looks very wrong to me, whatever it may mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 12:28 PM
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This makes sense to me. Not wearing a condom is tempting because it feels better but it's also risky. The hotter the girl is the more likely the guy is to be blinded by lust and give in to temptation. Yeah, that was the first thing that came to my mind. With a more attractive woman, lust and greed are stronger and more easily suppress common sense and long-term consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 08:13 AM
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OK, I think we're on the same page here, but I still want to challenge your opinion. 'Your snaggle-tooth is ugly' is not insulting. Well, it's not an objective statement, because there are no standards of ugliness. In fact, when I googled "snaggle-tooth" (not a native speaker), the first thing I found was an article on how snaggle-teeth have a tendency to be seen as cute in Japan. So, what the statement says is: I find your snaggle-tooth ugly. Which you can also formulate as "I don't like your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 07:53 AM
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What do you mean by "sweet"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 06:55 AM
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Uh. What does brutal truthfulness mean to you? For me, it's not being mean or insulting, like in your examples. It's not sugarcoating or omitting statements because they might(!) hurt me. It can still be brought forth with respect. Yeah, brutally truthful wasn't on my list, because I didn't count it as a character trait, but... I think I would like that too. Why do you assume that despisedlove2 (analogously, me) don't? I don't always want to hear what I already know or suspect. I'm very open to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 06:42 AM
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For me personally, in rough order of importance: intelligence musicality modesty cheerfulness responsibility In general, it's very difficult to say. Non-intelligent men don't want intelligent women (at least not specifically). Some want outgoing, extroverted women, some not. I don't think there is a profile that fits even a majority of men. There are some near-universal negatives, though, I believe. more manipulative or more genuine? Genuine, always genuine. Who wants to be manipulated? The minu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 06:32 AM
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I've been yelled at and lectured for wanting to date Wtf? Can you tell more about that? You mean, yelled at by the dates themselves? Friends? Fellow students? I mean, yes, I have a friend who is very ugly, very unintelligent and a bit mentally ill. At some point I have told him that he will have to acquaint himself with the possibility of never having a relationship. But that doesn't mean he shouldn't try to date, in his "league"... there are many mentally challenged women out there, too, for in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 10:13 AM
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There is no incel epidemic. They are just more visible. Do you really think that 20, 100, 1000 years ago there were less incels? I'd rather think the opposite. Also, with which time period do you compare today's "epidemic"? Really, everything you say is plain wrong: Men were not all always fighters. They were merchants. Peasants. Servants. Craftsmen. Only a minority fought in wars. A ratio of 1.06 is not enough to constitute an epidemic of incels. For instance, it is lessened by the fact that on…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 08:35 PM
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OK, so you do feel discouraged. That doesn't invalidate my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 07:45 AM
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Your conclusion has nothing to do with the experiment he did. It's tinder. There's pictures and not much else. What are they supposed to categorize men on, other than looks? Well, actually, there is more than looks. He says he's a "world traveller". Which is presumably an attractive trait. He must be an exciting guy, have an exciting life and exciting stories to tell! Don't you think that this, while having nothing to do with his looks, might also influence the womens' categorizing? So actually,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 08:31 PM
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Oh, I rather liked those "weird" places myself. Not school though. But you talked about the people you dated. Were those mostly from that school? If not, my question still stands. But not important. This is getting off-topic anyway. So you're a super-genius when you're crazy and a normal genius otherwise? :P
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 11:56 PM
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OK, weird. Different cultures perhaps, or maybe such things just didn't come up with the people I know. It's not that you walk around with a T-Shirt that says "I'm a 144"... But I think I don't know one person that's been tested, and I've been around geniuses too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 11:43 PM
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Wait. How do You know their IQ? Were they all tested? If yes, I find that weird. If not, why do you guess 120? How does the difference in IQ manifest itself? I'm asking because I find it very hard to assess the difference between, say, 130 and 145 IQ just by talking to people and observing them. I'm sure I know many people with higher IQ than me, but I couldn't say who it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 11:27 PM
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