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Well, I’m a feminist and I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:33 PM
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Privilege is oppressive. My mom’s family was rich enough to employ a maid when she was growing up. As an adult, she struggled with a working middle class lifestyle (her parents died while she was young, and used her inheritance to afford being a SAHM until I was 6 y/o; my father came from poverty growing up). The privilege she grew up with was also oppression, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:33 PM
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I think it’s because a lot of people don’t recognize that privilege is a double edged sword. It’s both a benefit and oppression. I have always empathized with men emotionally more than other girls (and women when I grew up). I have always thrived better in male dominated hobbies and spaces; but I’m female, and I recognize the rights feminism has granted me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:28 PM
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I see privilege as a double edged sword. It’s both oppression and a benefit to the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:24 PM
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It’s oppression towards men and woman because it infantilizes heterosexual men and heaps more responsibility onto women (ie. Don’t drink in publicly, women, so you don’t get raped; men can’t help their nature, so don’t punish them - men are slaves to their nature, don’t punish them).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:20 PM
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Not really. Have you heard of a gilded cage?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:16 PM
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Yes. Because that’s removing responsibility where men - where ALL people regardless of sex - should be held responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:55 PM
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I think feminism made a terrible mistake by not calling out oppression that men face, too. Ally ship between the sexes is vital to achieving legal equality between the sexes. I think I feel this way, because I have always understood men better emotionally than I do other women. I’ve always struggled in feminine spaces, and I’m the more masculine person - emotionally - in my relationship with my BF. I’m more career driven, I have always desired to be the provider or at minimum a major provider in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:54 PM
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I mean, yeah, it is both a privilege and oppression. A lot of privileges can be double edged swords for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:50 PM
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It’s not a privilege because it encourages people to to view women as less capable, as not being real adults. Believe me, I used to think this argument was weird, too. But when you think about, it oppresses men and women. It puts more responsibility on men and infantilizes women. Edit: I should have clarified how it hurts men, too, to further explain how it’s oppression. My apologies and thank you for calling me out on that. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:37 PM
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It is. As a feminist, I absolutely want to see equal sentencing. It’s beyond upsetting when I see news stories of a female teacher using a teenage boy for sex, and I see older men cheering for his sexual abuse. (Some say they wished female teachers did this to them, others admit they’re victims of abuse themselves - but they frame it as a sexual opportunity.) It’s upsetting because the woman is an obvious predator, but she isn’t seen as such because of being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:33 PM
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How do you know they are historical?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:35 PM
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It’s a good thing overall. Growing up in a diverse environment is beneficial to children, IMO. They are more likely to learn how to coexist with people who are different from them. I think future generations will see healthier relationships between men and women (platonic and otherwise) as outdated views of the sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:17 PM
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Going to an all girl’s school wouldn’t have helped my untreated ADHD and emotional issues. Going to a school with teachers that were educated and trained to work with students like me would have helped me more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:09 PM
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When you say “took your first life,” are you saying you were deployed? I’m assuming in the the early 2000’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:59 PM
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Like the above said, this is a terrible reason to go to college. I know people who pursued their passions and ended up in jobs related to their degrees that struggle to pay the bills and pay off student debt. I’m lucky in that my passion has a high chance to lead to a lucrative career because nurses are always in need, especially after COVID and if I go to the master level. Make sure that a field is lucrative enough to pay back any student debt you accrue. Do not go to college for anything but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:10 PM
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It is an option, sure, but it shouldn’t be the only way out. My dad didn’t want me, and I have mental health issues because of him. I’m sure there’s a genetic predisposition there. My adult life will be “OK” at best from my perspective (even when it’s legitimately good) because I’m finally reaching “mostly emotionally numb” as a baseline in my late 20’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:10 AM
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I’m including unwanted children in there. If the parents don’t want them is a valid reason to abort. My grandparents should’ve been allowed to abort my dad. Neither of them wanted him or to stay together, but they were young and pressured into a shotgun marriage. Had one more kid, but by time my dad was 6 y/o his dad walked out on them. Both of my grandparents were horribly abusive, and my dad inherited that abusive parenting style. He became abusive when my mom was done having kids after my sis…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 04:58 AM
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People have a lot of reasons to abort. We’re becoming more conscious of quality of life over quantity. Life isn’t some gift. There are some things worse than death - especially before you have personhood or any sort of awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 04:38 AM
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That doesn’t change the fact that a fetus isn’t a fully developed juvenile human yet. It’s not capable of thoughts or feelings. It’s a human without personhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:46 PM
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See, I agree that society needs to do those things; but I’m still pro-choice I’m pro-quality of life, and ending a human life post birth without their consent via a living will or something would be disastrous and easily abused, so I’m pro-choice so that people can decide whether to bring a child into this world or not. The world is callous and cruel. Thinking that having the chance at life is a gift regardless of the circumstances the child is born into is baffling to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:42 PM
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I can justify abortion because of the value of a human being. I also value quality of life more than quantity, so it just makes sense to end a pregnancy (with the consent of at minimum the mother) rather bring a life into a terrible situation. If my father had been aborted, two generations of severe child abuse and poor mental health wouldn’t exist. I wouldn’t have been born and I’m not ecstatic at the thought of my life ending, sure, but my grandparents wouldn’t have been pressured into a marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:19 AM
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You’re correct. And these aren’t convincing reasons for abortion to be legal to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:56 AM
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Education in the south is so bad, that when I was a senior in high school (2012), I met high schoolers in Texas that didn’t know Indiana was a state (where I’m from). When I told them where I’m from, they asked me why I’m not Indian. It took a lot for me to realize they weren’t being snarky; they literally were confused that I’m not South Asian (this is one of the few times I have met people that meant “Indian” as in “India”; my home state is socially backwards enough that many still prefer to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:12 AM
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And even if though the mother births the children, that doesn’t make her THE mother of those children. The biological mother, yes, but not the mother per society. My stepmother did not raise most off her children. The father of her first child raised their daughter because she couldn’t afford to provide for her, and he adopted HER second daughter because the father was a meth addicted fling and he pitied her (the second daughter was conceived during my stepmother’s divorce with him). Her second …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:29 PM
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By definition, to qualify as a toddler you must be a minimum of 1 year old. So, no, a fetus isn’t anywhere near a toddler.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:07 PM
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What are the benefits of abortion? Before anyone says anything, I’m pro-choice. I am specifically wanting to know what this poster believes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:05 PM
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Neither of my grandparents wanted my dad or to be together long term - he was conceived on a date. Due to the culture at the time, a shotgun wedding followed two or three months into the pregnancy. They had a second kid two years later, and then by the time my dad was 6 y/o, his dad walked out on them and the divorce was approved because of “abandonment.” (But they reconnected later.) My grandmother abused both him and his sister - made sure they knew they were never wanted. They just happened. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:57 PM
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Neither of my grandparents wanted my dad or to be together long term - he was conceived on a date. Due to the culture at the time, a shotgun wedding followed two or three months into the pregnancy. They had a second kid two years later, and then by the time my dad was 6 y/o, his dad walked out on them and the divorce was approved because of “abandonment.” (But they reconnected later.) My grandmother abused both him and his sister - made sure they knew they were never wanted. They just happened. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:55 PM
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You mean they want a cooperative partner? Because they date a woman that is assertive and still be cooperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:16 PM
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No. What if the thief is armed? I wouldn’t expect my boyfriend or husband to put their life at risk for my stuff, so I wouldn’t expect that of my male friend. Plus, if someone snatches my “purse,” they’ll probably drag me with them since my purse is a backpack (not a dainty backpack purse, but an actual backpack).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:05 PM
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Lol As someone with alcoholic tendencies, that’s a good way of a little liquid turning into too much too often and liver disease later in life. Seriously, there’s nothing wrong with need actual medication to handle your mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:49 PM
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That’s not a diagnosis, that’s a person giving their opinion. That’s not being misdiagnosed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:46 PM
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When people are starving en mass, suffering knows no sex. To survive, you think of yourself and value others as few as possible. In reality, “women and children first” is abandoned by the average person outside of the few people they personally valued - if they valued anyone more than themself at all. In reality, the common men and women suffer just as much when society is torn asunder by conflict. Often for different reasons, but the suffering is often bad enough that surviving the immediate co…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:35 PM
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In my country, I am seeing that change. Slow and steady and not likely to become the norm until I’m much older (I’m in my 20’s now); but the change is happening. Biologically we will never be equal, legal equality can be achieved.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:23 PM
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Simply surviving a conflict isn’t a win. Depending on the results of the conflict and society is impacted, life during and after could be a constant struggle - starvation becoming the norm could be waiting at the end. Many women and children joined their men during and soon after conflicts for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:19 PM
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That’s because of outdated legislation that was enacted when women were the default caregivers. Society is becoming more accepting of both women and now men living life outside of traditional roles; I’m more SAHD’s in my generation than previously, and more men and women that want women included in the draft (or to see the draft abolished - period).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:14 PM
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Men have fled conflict all throughout history. Look at America: many of us are here because we’ve descended from both men and women who fled conflicts in their home countries. My 10th great-grandfather was an aristocrat and a Huguenot that fled the French Revolution in the 1600’s. They lost everything and my 10th great-grandfather had to come to the colonies as an indentured servant; his wife died serving another Englishmen en route to the colonies, and with no children together, I’m descended f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:06 PM
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My dad financially aborted me when I was in adolescence by simply refusing to pay child support, and because my mother couldn’t afford to take him to court, he never suffered repercussions. The man demanded he be a part of my life without contributing to my basic needs, and he was beside himself with fury when I told him off and refused his visitation rights (despite my mom encouraging me to try to have a relationship with my father).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:58 PM
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You think having to defend your offspring and/or yourself from a threat is less traumatic than serving the front lines? Here’s the thing: To the human brain, real trauma is trauma. Both situations would be traumatic to a person, male or female. Stephen King was traumatized when he rescued his toddler-aged son from becoming roadkill when the child toddled in front of an oncoming semi truck. Knowing that, had he been seconds later, he would have watched his child die, was traumatic due to the natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:54 PM
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Oh, I won’t be surprised if I’m wrong; and if we keep in mind the many conflicts humanity has seen with familiar echoes, I’ve learned that humans have a nasty habit of repeating history. It sucks, but it’s part of being human. I hear concerned whispers from colleagues and people I know outside of work all the time - online and in person - and you’d think this is the worst time to be alive going by these people. But more often than not, they often express longing for decades past when they were y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:35 PM
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People often forget the transitional period after social change occurs, and we’ve seen a lot of social change in a shorter period of time than before. Equilibrium will most likely be reached, and hopefully in a form that normalizes the freedoms achieved for women, while creating a society that better meets the social needs of men. It will never be perfect - but hopefully society will learn to meet both sexes halfway in a modern sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:19 PM
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I think this is very cultural dependent. Where I grew up, the quality of your social experiences depended on how well you could thrive within a strict, socially Conservative Midwest American rural culture - regardless of your sex. As a girl that naturally didn’t fit the mold expected of girls, I grew up just as socially maladjusted as the boys that didn’t fit in. I agree that your suggestion is important for both boys and girls to grow up socially adjusted; but part of the reason it would be har…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:57 PM
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What should we do to help more young men get these experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:47 PM
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I’m very masculine personality wise compared the average woman. I socialise better with men, and I’m used to a very open group of friends regardless of sex. Because of female coworkers, it definitely seems more common than people want to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:48 PM
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I haven’t counted the minutes, but it’s multiple times within hour - towards women and men I see throughout the day and online. With the biological pangs of horniness that naturally follows. If my impair my functions, you mean I zone out for a little bit (unless something gets my attention), then yes. A lot of women don’t admit sexual attachment because we are raised not to in most social circles. But in my mixed sex friend group, we’re more open with each other. But growing up, I remember being…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:06 PM
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I’m not saying that broken individuals are incapable of loving and raising a mentally healthy child. My aunt is an example of that. But she decided early on she wanted her first child, and wanted the next two children. Wanting a child can affect how a parent treats them. In my family’s example, that’s literally been the first sign of being unfit parent: every person that didn’t want their child or children wound up abusive; every person that wanted their child were good parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:00 PM
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Neither nor the people I know on the left believe the government is an “altruistic organization.” We view it as a tool for the people that is only as effective as our voting practices. The only people I know of that believe the government is some “altruistic organizations” are incredibly ignorant of politics and they don’t really align with either party, and have low voter turnout rates until the presidential election.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:57 PM
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For me, it’s about 50-60% of men and women I see. But heterosexual women I know often feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:46 PM
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I do - granted it comes and goes throughout the day, but yes. A lot of women I know feel the same (just with men only).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:45 PM
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I feel like the criticism “lack of funding” is another criticism of poor leadership. The money is there until it’s allocated poorly and more funding (generally through taxes, which higher earners can often get away with not paying their fair share, especially since leadership is in their pockets) is demanded of middle class earners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:17 PM
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I understand not wanting to be with someone who sleeps around casually. But I also think it’s an immature view and due to a lack of experience (I’m criticizing my own preferences here).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:14 PM
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If she isn’t seeing those friends during the relationship, I don’t see a problem. Then again, I’m fairly cynical when it comes to human relationships in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:05 PM
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The few girls I know that I pulled this kind of u-turn don’t portray themselves as the perfect, HGTV housewife unless they come from money. Most examples I’ve witnessed have been genuine. The party girls that came from money? One was genuine, and a couple others are definitely manufactured.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:58 PM
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The people that want to sell me something make more mad than anything. Like, ya’ll, I’m saving money to replace my dumpy old barley functional car and for school to advance my career ON TOP of paying the bills. I don’t have enough money to fund your side hustle, so if that’s what you’re friending me on social media, then don’t bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:37 PM
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This just sounds like a natural progression of different relationships as you got older. The friends probably have different reasons to not follow than the hook ups and FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:35 PM
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Maturing out of time is forced to you? How? Maturing with age is a natural part of progression in most people’s lives. Keep in mind, I was never one of these women - I have been with two men, and I’m still with and building a life with the second man. But when the party girls I knew growing up started reinvented themselves for a domestic life, I encouraged and praised them. Youth is a time for mistakes - for me, it was financial mistakes; for them it was sexual and romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:21 PM
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We’re really not as different as men want to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:36 PM
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Amanda has shown Mike her text messages and proven that Tyler isn’t a current active part of her life. I get the insecurity Mike might feel - I think it’s part of having a slightly immature and inexperienced view of relationships. However, if I were Mike’s friend, I would encourage him to continue seeing Amanda. The relationship is still young IMO. She has shown she is loyal in the relationship thus far, and what she does outside of the relationship (should it end) isn’t Tyler’s business. That’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:20 PM
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I agree. Unfortunately, I thinking periods of civil unrest and extreme violence are just a part of having a society - of humans living together. Hopefully I’m wrong and we won’t see some kind of civil war conflict; but if we do, I can’t help but think it was inevitable at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:00 PM
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No one ever said that leadership isn’t part of the problem. Or even the majority of it; but funding and the proper allocation of funds is a problem, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:31 PM
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Want to be more specific? Do you have links or are you prepared to admit you don’t understand how better funding for the FDA would have helped to prevent or lessen the damage caused by this shortage?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:47 AM
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The food supply issue? Yes. I’m not going through it - I’m not having kids until I finish school. My friends got married and had their daughter last year in the winter. She’s had a lot of GI issues and needs to eat a special formula. My friends have been suffering severe stress trying to make sure they can feed her the formula she needs. Literally every retailer hasn’t had her food in stock for months, so they’re been buying from Facebook marketplace out of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:32 AM
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I doesn’t change the fact that, objectively, my grandparents shouldn’t have had my dad. They should have been allowed to abort and go their separate ways. My boyfriend comes from a healthy family. Are they perfect? Of course not. They have problems that are obvious to them and me, but objectively they are a “healthy” family. My mom came from a healthy family with serious issues. But I still believe that my mom’s parents were ready to have her. I call them my mom’s parents because she watched her…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:29 AM
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Learning the circumstances around my father’s birth (he was an accident that my grandparents abused after their shotgun marriage, along with his sister that they had because hate sex is a thing; he abused my sister and I because we weren’t boys and inconvenienced him by not being the sex he wanted. He learned that being inconvenienced by his kid’s existence means abuse them as punishment, so we were both severely abused growing up; generations of abuse could have been avoided if my grandparents …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:12 AM
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Being “prepared” to have a child is different from the idea of being prepared. My mom was prepared to be a parent, but not prepared for me to be born without an organ. She wasn’t prepared for the four days I had to be admitted to the hospital until they could diagnose that was missing an organ. She wasn’t prepared for the emotional stress of hoping the medication - that I’m still on today - will give me a chance at a normal life as she crushed the pills and mixed them with my formula and baby fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:06 AM
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My dad was an “inconvenience,” and he and his sister were abused as “punishment” for being born. His sister rose above the abuse they came from and was a fantastic mother; my father passed that abuse onto me and my sister when my mother decided not have anymore kids after I was born, and he realized he wouldn’t have a son. He resented me and my sister and abused us for existing. I learned from him that quality of life is more important than quantity of life. I still mourn abortions and accept th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:53 AM
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Even coworkers that refused it at first have gotten the vaccine even before it was required after seeing it deployed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:44 AM
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I can understand, but as I have said, I got the vaccine for the good of my patients and coworkers when it was first rolled out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:44 AM
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Because of a law passed in the 1980’s. I agree that this law should be abolished.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:42 AM
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The politicians, yes. Many of their constituents don’t see the difference. It’s sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:40 AM
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I agree with this, too, in regards to the average person on the Pro-Life side.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:34 AM
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It’s ridiculous, but the politicians will convince their base that they’re “pro life.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:33 AM
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If you don’t have a medical or religious reason to reject the vaccine, than you shouldn’t be rejecting it despite your anxieties. I trust my PCP and the many doctors I have worked with that encourage the mandates/getting the vaccine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:32 AM
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I did give you a straight answer. It should be mandated for anyone that doesn’t have religious or medical exemptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:29 AM
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Lol I know whether I wold force it or not. You are looking for a simple answer. I’m giving you a real answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:28 AM
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It’s not as simple as “enforce or don’t.” I was born missing an organ, so I have lived my life by doctor’s advisement and they have rarely steered me wrong. It’s not that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:26 AM
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It shouldn’t be considered forceful. The state isn’t enforcing it, and if you don’t have medical or religious concerns (religious concerns are accepted, my personal beliefs as an atheist shouldn’t affect that), you shouldn’t have any issues with the vaccine. I have spoken with numerous doctors that support the vaccines and explained why VAERS isn’t a legitimate source. Despite my own anxieties, I took the Pfizer vaccine for the greater good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:23 AM
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I work for a hospital, so yes. However, medical and religious exemptions are accepted. I disagree with religious exemptions as an atheist, but hospitals often accept them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:19 AM
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Oh, I’m aware there are women who are anti-abortion. My great aunt told me women should die in childbirth if there’s even a slim chance to save the baby. I cut her out of my life after she said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:17 AM
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I don’t agree with forcefully injecting the vaccines - I agree with speaking to your primary care physician, and if they medically clear you, you have no excuse to reject the vaccine. I was and still am anxious about consequences of taking a vaccine that was developed in such a short time. I was vaccinated during the first wave; but I did it out of concern for more than myself. I never suffered more than a sore arm, and even my BF and friends that had more symptoms support the vaccine. If you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:16 AM
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A couple of my friends - who are married and had their daughter because they were ready to have a child - are upset that Roe v Wade are overturned. They’re daughter has GI issues that require a special baby food that hasn’t been in stock for months. They’re having to take a risk and purchase her special formula through other sources just to make sure that she can eat AT ALL. They’ve said that a country that can’t even supply enough formula for their citizens babies shouldn’t consider banning abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:08 AM
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There’s a difference between a novel virus that’s easily transmittable and a pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:04 AM
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I’ve literally watched a nurse comfort a woman that didn’t want to have her baby while she is in a delivery room. You are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:02 AM
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Agreed. If any of the men here are Conservative, but they don’t want children, and they support overturning Roe v Wade, they better agree to be celibate now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:49 PM
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You don’t think women would notice before giving birth that the baby wasn’t aborted? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:44 PM
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Yup. They’re against the state or any type of socialism until it serves their beliefs/interests. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:37 PM
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Agreed. But they’re convinced by their pastors, priests, social media, and politicians that abortion is murder. To them, they are voting against murder, and that’s why they can’t mind their own business. It’s messed up. These people genuinely believe they’re doing the right thing when they’re actually ruining lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:33 PM
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My Conservative great aunt told me that women deserve to die in childbirth if there’s even a slim chance the baby can be saved at least. I cut her from my life after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:31 PM
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I completely agree. The “good intentions people” are the everyday people. On the state and federal level, I’m convinced they know what they’re doing. They’re banning abortions knowing many Americans will suffer because of the ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:30 PM
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I don’t believe that. I’m sure there’s a lot of pro-Life/Anti-abortion people that are coming from a good place. I’m just stating that good intentions can have major, unfortunate consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:18 PM
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In 20 to 30 years, we’re going to see young people that were born to unprepared parents - possibly to parents that never wanted them - that are going to struggle to function in society. Some will figure it out like I have and clumsily land on their feet. Others - most likely many - won’t. My dad was born to parents that didn’t want him, and abused him as “punishment” for burdening and “ruining” their adult lives with his existence. His sister broke the cycle of abuse and has always been a wonder…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:15 PM
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Half seems like a good estimate. More often than not, I’ll find myself debating people in whatever group I’m affiliated with just as often as I’ll debate with the “opposing group.” I’m definitely more content with who I am than a lot of the people around me. Also agreed - being viewed as “moody and confrontational” can be a consequence of being assertive and able to self-determine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:04 PM
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I relate more to men or the women you befriend - I generally hate people, but I’m concerned for the vulnerable and want to provide for their genuine needs/or help them help themselves. I’m often judged as being moody or confrontational because I’m direct and focused when I need to be, and disengaged in social situations where most women would be expected to engage traditionally. I have never related to traditionally feminine women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:46 PM
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“The only women who matter to me are those in my family and those I’m friends with…” That’s more common than a lot of people would like to admit. I’m going to go to school for nursing, and I’ve learned that even a minimum of emotional investment in complete strangers isn’t as common as society wants to think. Regardless of sex. I genuinely care about the health of everyone I meet - even people I hate or dislike - and on top of years of experience working in an ER and an OR, I decided I want to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:13 PM
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Then how should I interpret your response to “Do women you’re not attracted to you mean anything to you at all”? I’m genuinely trying to understand your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:58 PM
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“…not push any further than that.” Meaning? I can get behind opening with some banter, but am I supposed to just giggle cutely. Because if I’m impressed by someone, I’m going to have follow up questions. “Effortless success” is as attractive as any other idea that appeals to our escapist tendencies. This can be fine for entertainment value, but it isn’t real life. If you’re an adult 25 y/o or older, and you think seeing real effort is a turn off, then you’re just immature and not worth my time. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:08 AM
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I’m not saying own two of everything. You’re example was extreme, but what you and your ex did was actually reasonable. I agree that the 2 bed apartment wouldn’t raise costs that much. But keep in mind that renting an apartment is a loss in the long term; a serious needs to look into home ownership ASAP. Which means costs will be higher - but home ownership can be an asset that you invest in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:07 AM
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Downsizing some is understandable - but you shouldn’t expect your partner to sell their stuff until all they own are some clothes and a few “knick knacks.” What if the relationship doesn’t work out? Now they have find a place they can afford to rent and they have to be able to buy the basic furniture they need when they move in. A lot of couples rent when they’re dating or recently married; I never said that all apartments are too small for two adults. I was saying that expecting two people to l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:08 AM
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I know a Conservative guy like this. When he was playing the field, he usually dated a couple of different women at a time, and he would pretend to agree with non-Conservative women’s views to keep dating them. He wanted to keep dating them because he “They are nice and a lot of fun, but they’re liberal to get serious with.” I think he was keeping around to sleep with them. He has a girlfriend now and it sounds like she values traditional gender roles - not sure about her politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:03 AM
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If a man is my type, then I’ll be attracted to him and return his interest. If a guy is attracted to me and thinks “How to be attractive to women” can teach him how to be attractive me, he definitely won’t blow my mind when he follows the book’s advice. I doubt he’d find success with most woman with those books. My boyfriend was awkward and unsure of himself when he started expressing interest in me because he lacked experience. His inexperience never bothered me, and seeing the effort he put in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:15 AM
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“Set up failure” is a weird way of viewing it. Most men I’ve known that understood that the socially acceptable advice is just that; the men that knew what they’re attracted to and held women to those standards don’t struggle with dating much (if at all). I know some men that haven’t been successful in dating, and it’s because they’re not attracting the kind of woman they’re attractive to. Sometimes they can become more attractive to their type of woman, but that depends on how well they handle …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:26 AM
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Most women in my age group (millennials) aren’t as comfortable admitting what attracts us outside of personality because most of us were taught that valuing more than your personality is shallow. I was often criticized for being more forthcoming, which is a trait that was more acceptable for guys when I was growing up. A lot of Gen. Z women I’ve worked with have been more comfortable admitting what they’re attracted to physically and socioeconomically than most women my age. Your former classmat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:34 AM
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Oof. My bad. I struggle with reading the intended tone on forums like Reddit, so I’m sorry I misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:36 AM
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Why? Why would you give flowers as a romantic gesture to a woman that just said that she doesn’t consider flower a romantic gift?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:30 AM
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Most women will date men that aren’t tall - most men are a little taller than most women. Make good money - “good money” means different things to different people. It depends on the lifestyle they have/want. Good sex - Most men want their sexual needs to be met, and different men have different sexual tastes. So, I’m not sure why women wanting someone that meets their sexual needs is a problem. Attractive - Most people want to be attracted to the person they’re dating. Plenty of women date men …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:21 AM
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Sure, being attracted to someone is the normally the first thing that comes to mind. But if men want an LTR, they need to have high enough standards to and stick to them to find a woman they’re compatible with. I work around a lot of surgeons, and a lot of young male surgeons are married to female surgeons. All of the older doctors I have worked with are married to educated women that became SAHM’s when they got married. It used to be common for high earning men to marry women with an education,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:12 AM
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Are you saying you want a LTR and sleep around? If you want an open relationship, you need to rule out women that are strictly monogamous. You’ll still need high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:34 PM
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Hold up - are you looking to have sex with as many women as possible or a relationship? You mentioned relationships earlier. If you only care about the quantity of sex you’re having/women you’re having sex with, low standards is fine. But if you want a LTR, then you need to have higher standards to vet the women you date until you find a compatible woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:31 PM
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My boyfriend has high standards and expectations, and he expects me to meet them (and vice versa), and that makes him more attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:24 PM
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“…what you end up with is just clothes and a few knick knacks.” Expecting one person to sell off most of their furniture to move in with a partner isn’t realistic. What if they break up? One person has to find a place and buy furniture to furnish it. What if the person moving in WFH or they’re a student? They’ll need to keep more than clothes and a few knick knacks. Most of the couples I know/have known that live crammed in a tiny apartment only live there because they can’t afford the space the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:20 PM
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That makes sense. I came from one of a town like that. I went to K-12 with the same group of kids (less than 100 of us); most of my classmates believe this un-ironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:07 AM
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But muh good guy with a gun LARP…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:55 AM
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Okay, as a woman, I have never understood why crystal and horoscopes are so popular with other girls/women. Never have. Crystals are pretty but useless baubles. I don’t own any nor do I care to. Horoscopes are written to appeal to superstitious people that believe in a higher power. I’ve never been superstitious and I went from agnostic to atheist when I was 25 y/o; it was always obvious to me that horoscopes are as true as a fortune cookie (not at all). I’m embarrassed that horoscopes are popul…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:57 PM
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I’m not talking about LTRs. I’m not attracted to most of my male friends, but they still matter to me. I wasn’t attracted to most of my male coworkers or the doctors I worked with when I worked for the ER, but they still mattered to me. I’m not attracted to most of my female friends (this is relevant because I’m bisexual), but they still matter to me. I’m not attracted to most of my female coworkers, but they still matter to me. I wasn’t attracted to my patients when I worked for the ER, but man…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:49 PM
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Did you mean to respond to me? I was asking him why women can only matter to him if he’s attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:09 PM
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Are you suggesting that the Bible is evidence for 1950’s housewives being the standard for thousands of years?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:05 PM
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Women only matter to you if you’re attracted to us? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 08:06 PM
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You think the 1950’s housewife has been the standard for thousands of years? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:47 PM
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Agreed - there’s a lot to criticize about the pharmaceutical industry (especially their role in the opioid epidemic); but there’s a lot of good that’s from it, too. A lot of people with no education in medicine are surprisingly quick to tell others - with no knowledge of that person’s medical history or condition - how to treat it. Or at least they are in the region where I grew up. It’s maddening.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:25 PM
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I enjoy learning how the world works - which means I need to accept that I’m probably wrong about a lot of things that I “know.” But we’re all biased and if I’m not in the right headspace, I’m prone to arguing past people. That happened a lot when in my early 20’s until I started Uni; my English professor constantly reminded us that “you’re less critical of information that elicits a strong emotional reaction in you; you need to retrain yourself to respond to these emotional reactions by fact-ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:15 PM
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And thank you as well! I agree it’s hard to find people who can handle civil debate; I enjoy because there’s a chance I can learn something new that changes my perspective on something. This conversation definitely makes me want to research the dangers of surrogacy more. I still stand by IVF - but I’m more cautious of IVF that involves surrogacy now, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:05 PM
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I agree. Admittedly, I might have fixated on that out of sensitivity. I’ve literally been harassed - several times - for not ditching my medication (by people who are very anti-pharma; the pharmaceutical industry definitely has a lot of issues, but you can’t substitute a missing organ with elderberry dammit) for “natural treatments.” It’s become a sore spot for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:01 PM
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Also, I can respect your personal feelings regarding IVF and you’re not wrong to feel that way. I have a lot of respect for people that be against something for them self, without seeing everyone that disagrees as wrong. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:28 AM
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The point of the comparison was to point out they treating my congenital defect - in fact, treating lot of medical issues - are can be just as unnatural as IVF treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:21 AM
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I agree that fertility does not need to be treated. People can live full filing lives childless or pursue adoption to become parents. Society definitely pressures people to procreate, and there are infertility people who have suffered because of that pressure. But there are infertile people that choose IVF treatment to treat infertility and start a family because they decided it was the right option for them. I wasn’t aware that surrogates were paid - and after I quick search, I’m seeing what yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:15 AM
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I agree my example of parents choosing IVF over adoption due to “not being a good fit” wasn’t well thought out. If they aren’t a good fit for every child in the system, then they just don’t need to be parents. And I’m sure IVF is pursed for selfish reasons, too; but not all parents that started their family through IVF treatment should be generalized that way. I 100% agree that there’s a problem when Pro-Life people seek IVF treatment. They swear up and down that abortion is murder and life begi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:32 AM
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“Natural means”? The fact that I’m alive right now goes against my biology and is unnatural. If I lived naturally after being diagnosed as a baby, I would have lived and died a sickly baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:12 AM
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I agree that biological parents can be just as harmful. I have mental health issues that weren’t diagnosed until adulthood that my family ignored. When I was diagnosed with ADD as a child, my family said it doesn’t exist and that I’m just stupid/don’t want to pay attention. I developed cPTSD from my upbringing; the psychologist believes I had cPTSD as early as elementary school, which was treated as “acting out” and punished with physical discipline. In reality, I was traumatised from my dad pun…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:06 AM
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Do you have any sources you could share to help me understand? Why should options just be adopt or go child free? I’m going to school for the healthcare field because I want to help people and I’m fascinated by medical science/technology. I was born missing an organ, and if not for the medication I take daily ever since I was diagnosed as a baby, I wouldn’t be here. If a couple struggles with infertility wouldn’t be a good fit for adoption, but they would still be good parents, I don’t see the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:46 AM
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I agree that surrogacy can and has been exploited - there needs to be a lot of red tape, vetting of the couple, etc. But there are parents that were ethically minded and respected the surrogate’s personhood. I whole heartedly support for there to be more adoption - just as long as kids are being adopted out to the right people. A lot of these kids have emotional issues and trauma that not everyone is equipped to handle. My step-aunt and her husband adopted two Brazilian kids. The kids spent most…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:24 AM
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There are couples that see the surrogate as just an incubator. But there are also parents that respect the surrogate mother’s personhood, too. There’s nothing dysfunctional about the conception when the parents are ethically minded and respect the surrogate’s personhood. I agree that we need to do more for the children society just leaves in the system. The problem is, a lot of these kids come with trauma and emotional needs that a lot of people don’t know how to handle. Same with adoption. My s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:02 AM
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• Why do think surrogacy is inherently exploitive? • How is IVF narcissistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:23 AM
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It’s not uncommon for the surrogate mother to be a close friend or even related to one of the parents. The surrogate is someone they trust, and to the surrogate, she’s doing it out of love for the parents. Comparing surrogacy to being “just an incubator” is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:04 AM
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Why are you against it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 12:57 AM
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Yeah - that’s an example of unhealthy serial monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 12:32 AM
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Hmm. I see what you mean. Basically, her reasons are always vague and/or inconsistent? (Whereas my friend’s relationships came to a natural ending point - he’s consistent.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 12:02 AM
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What makes you say that? I’m not saying you’re wrong - if someone is a serial monogamist, but they clearly want to get married, then yeah, I agree. I doubt they’ll have good advice for a teen wanting a stable marriage some day. But I know some serial monogamists that are happy with being in a relationship and never getting married. A good friend of mine is a serial monogamist, and he makes what he wants clear from the beginning. When the girl’s decide they want something different, they end thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 11:59 PM
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Was she a serial monogamist because she didn’t want to get married, and those relationships came to a natural conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 11:49 PM
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My aunt was 19 y/o and engaged when she got pregnant with my cousin. I think she wanted to live with her mom and go to school near home, which is why they lived separately while he was in the Air Force. When my grandmother found out my aunt was pregnant, she kicked her out and my aunt had to move on base with her fiancé. (Which made it harder for her to go school). My aunt knew her mother disapproved of sex outside of marriage. She knew kicking her out would affect her education and make it hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 11:48 PM
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My aunt was 19 y/o and engaged when she got pregnant with my cousin. I think she wanted to live with her mom and go to school near home, which is why they lived separately while he was in the Air Force. When my grandmother found out my aunt was pregnant, she kicked her out and my aunt had to move on base with her fiancé. (Which made it harder for her to go school). My aunt knew her mother disapproved of sex outside of marriage. She knew kicking her out would affect her education and make it hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 11:36 PM
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My grandmother was the same way. When I was really into genealogy, I found pictures of my grandparents wedding day, and when I saw the date, I realised that my grandmother was a few months pregnant with my father when my grandparents got married. When I reached out to my aunt (my father’s sister - he and I are estranged), she explained that my grandparents fooled around after a few dates and got knocked up with my father. Since it was the 60’s, they got a shotgun wedding to save face. Neither of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 11:28 PM
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Why do you think your mother wouldn’t have good advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 10:44 PM
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The vaccine isn’t being forced on anyone in a legal capacity. There are employers requiring it, but in certain fields that’s always been the case, and if you can provide documentation of medical or religious exemption you can opt out. But nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 02:45 PM
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Historically, it wasn’t uncommon for parents to abandon a child or two if the family fell on hard times and the family’s size exceeded their resources. Getting an abortion is not ideal, but as a fetus the baby isn’t fully developed - it’s kinder than what our ancestors had to do. Sometimes it’s better to have not been born.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 02:15 PM
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May I ask why you are opposed to performing vasectomies/elective sterilisation procedures?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 02:01 PM
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Lol I have no delusions of grandeur. I can handle an emergency and going to school to enter the healthcare field; but I’m not suited for combat - I was born missing an organ, and if this situation ever happens, I may not be able to access refills of the medication I need daily to function. I wouldn’t be able to defend myself or anyone else if that happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:55 PM
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Our armed populace isn’t a deterrent to our own military. Our government was designed to make it hard for a tyrant to take power; but that doesn’t mean it can never happen. If that happens today, our guns won’t be enough - we’ll need corporate backing and a significant amount of the military needs to defect to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:32 PM
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Sure, divorce is nothing new; but the requirements to get a divorce needed proof of fault in the other or both parties, or submit a petition for divorce to the church - when the church regulated familial life - for review; but both Christians and the Catholic Church rarely approved divorces, except for when: 1. adultery was proven. 2. The husband or wife has been absent for a long time. No Fault Divorce is a modern concept and made divorce more accessible when it needs to be. Why is that insulti…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:25 PM
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The Taliban also had the home field advantage, and considering how many decades of wars being waged in the Middle East, two generations were raised in war zones. The average American is obese and can barely run a mile. Realistically, I doubt our population could repel our military because the average American has fewer survival skills, is obese and too out of shape to pass the Presidential Fitness Test, much less repel our own military.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:59 PM
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Yeah - his sister is estranged from the rest of them and disowned her family. It’s sad seeing someone I’ve known most of my life embrace that ideology, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:50 PM
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Can you name some full blown, Soviet Style communists?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:48 PM
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Unless the military splinters and the side that stands with the American people is able to secure enough access to stand a chance against the other side, I doubt our well-armed populace would stand much of a chance. The above is the reason Trump’s eagerness to turn the military on American citizens was so terrifying to me. Because even with our guns, we can’t defend ourselves from our own military - we would need enough of them (with access to modern military weapons) to defect and help us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:47 PM
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I have only met one card carrying Neo-Nazi - that classmate and his brother/parents. However, I have met plenty of with Nazi adjacent beliefs without subscribing to the name. That’s just as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:31 PM
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Yup. I think that something happens that makes these people vulnerable to these ideologies. He was shot in the head in a hunting accident, and while he got the reconstructive surgery to recover outwardly, he seemed off after that. Growing up he seemed like a normal and mostly tolerant guy - apathetic to politics, religions or any major ideology. I was even more surprised when his wife defended him on social media with “we agree to disagree” - like, we sat through the US History classes, we all l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:28 PM
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The problem with that is that, in American history, militias were often ineffective or performed subpar; those some proved to be an asset during the Revolutionary War, overall the militia wasn’t reliable more often than not. “In September 1755, George Washington, then adjutant-general of the Virginia militia, upon a frustrating and futile attempt to call up the militia to respond to a frontier Indian attack: ... he experienced all the evils of insubordination among the troops, perverseness in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:20 PM
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Unfortunately, Neo-Nazi’s/people that think like them aren’t as uncommon as we’d like to think. I learned a couple of years ago that one of my classmates is a full-blown Nazi (his entire family is, apparently) when they were actively trying to recruit around town. His wife defended him by saying that they “just agree to disagree” - so, she seemed tolerant of ideologies that advocate for and committed genocide. I’ve learned that people in this region are surprisingly tolerant of Nazi adjacent bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:10 PM
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Okay, let’s make one thing clear: I don’t want sweeping gun bans. In my rural community, guns were tools for hunting and self-defence (living in the countryside, if the police were needed, then you had to be to defend yourself because they probably weren’t going to drive out in time). However, I was taught that guns are extremely dangerous tools if mishandled. One of my classmates experienced that firsthand: he “showed off” his new shotgun to his friends, and ended up shooting himself in the nut…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:00 PM
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“In September 1755, George Washington, then adjutant-general of the Virginia militia, upon a frustrating and futile attempt to call up the militia to respond to a frontier Indian attack: ... he experienced all the evils of insubordination among the troops, perverseness in the militia, inactivity in the officers, disregard of orders, and reluctance in the civil authorities to render a proper support. And what added to his mortification was, that the laws gave him no power to correct these evils, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:19 PM
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“In 1794, a militia numbering approximately 13,000 was raised and personally led by President George Washington to quell the Whiskey Rebellion in Pennsylvania. From this experience, a major weakness of a States-based citizen militia system was found to be the lack of systematic army organization, and a lack of training for engineers and officers. George Washington repeatedly warned of these shortcomings up until his death in 1799. Two days before his death, in a letter to General Alexander Hamil…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:13 PM
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I think he compromised, not agreed. There’s more quotes regarding his opinion of the militias - he wasn’t a fan. “At the time of the drafting of the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, a political sentiment existed in the newly formed United States involving suspicion of peacetime armies not under civilian control. This political belief has been identified as stemming from the memory of the abuses of the standing army of Oliver Cromwell and King James II, in Great Britain in the prior century,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:11 PM
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“General George Washington defended the militia in public, but in correspondence with Congress expressed his opinion of the militia quite to the contrary: ‘To place any dependence on the Militia, is, assuredly, resting upon a broken staff. Men just dragged from the tender Scenes of domestic life; unaccustomed to the din of Arms; totally unacquainted with every kind of military skill, which being followed by a want of confidence in themselves, when opposed to Troops regularly trained, disciplined…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:03 PM
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Effectively collaborating with authorities to respond to an emergency requires that these civilians with boats to be quick on their feet to learn protocols and work within those guidelines. That informal training sticks with them even when they’re not actively volunteering, and they’re actively trying to become more organised. The “just guys with boats” were turned away by authorities during Katrina.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:47 PM
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There’s a difference between a gun enthusiast that knows are to properly operate/maintain their guns, and that’s it, and a well-regulated group that’s been trained to follow protocols developed to respond in a crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:30 PM
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Cajun Navy Foundation Origins Founded in September 2016 by Rob Gaudet, who was a key organizer behind the very first Cajun Navy, Rob’s thoughtful approach to citizen-led rescues helped save thousands of lives. His method was simple; he spearheaded a Cajun Navy group whose only requirement was that citizens agree to work alongside local authorities. This was what separated his efforts from other citizen boaters who were frustrated at being turned back by authorities. By working within the guideli…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:26 PM
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They’re properly trained volunteers that own a boat whether there’s an emergency or not. When the ER I worked for brought in a retired nurse that started coding at a health fair, their peers - mostly retired nurses - began lifesaving treatment with whatever they had/could get ahold of on them ASAP. They even managed get the patient back (unfortunately they passed away shortly after arriving in the ER). They were all retired older folks, and yet when they were needed, their education/training mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:11 PM
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“By integrating civilian volunteers into the Incident Command Structure, we are able to act as a force multiplier for agencies responding to disaster.” This an example of a well-regulated emergency response team with protocols in place to respond effectively. By integrating civilians, that includes training. There is a regulatory body to keep enact the protocols they need to effectively train civilians and respond during a crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:56 PM
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“…but there was never the intent for a constant regulated presence.” “…and when a crisis emerges that population bands together, forms well regulated militias and gets after it. During the rest of the time they’re just people that own guns.” Waiting until there’s a crisis to train people to work together as a cohesive unit, establish a hierarchy of capable leadership to lead these smaller units is the worst idea imaginable - especially if the pool of people to serve in the militia have no experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:36 PM
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“A WELL REGULATED militia…” At the time, which governing body would be better suited to over this WELL REGULATED militia. In fact, back then it wasn’t uncommon for politicians to have held rank before retiring to become a politician. Before we formed a standing military, our state legislators were equipped with political clout and were likely veterans of one or more major conflict. If they weren’t ensuring their militia was well regulated (on the legislative side), then who was?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:08 PM
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The Constitution was also made to be amended in accordance with the will of the people. You yourself admit they were flawed men; but people keep want to act like an amendable Constitution penned by men that lived in the 1700’s still represents the will of the people in the 21st Century. It’s ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 11:10 AM
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There’s no talk of the state maintains the militia? The militia clause of the 2nd Amendment: “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." “A well regulated militia…” Like, it’s literally in the 2nd Amendment, bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 11:00 AM
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Agreed. I was taught as a child that guns are dangerous but important tools for: Hunting and self-defence. The current subset of Conservatives - even people that I’ve known most of my life - that have adopted gun ownership as a major aspect of their identity is ridiculous and disturbing. It’s the equivalent to adopting a power drill as a major part of your identity. And now, the Conservative state I grew up in recently changed legislation to not require licensure to conceal carry. Which means le…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:55 AM
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My boyfriend has a couple of friends - who are dating each other - that he was close to since their teens. The woman in the relationship was the only female in the friend group, and anytime her male friends introduced a new girlfriend in the group, she would try to establish social dominance over her friend’s new girlfriend, and demands that her boyfriend shower her with affection when other women are present. If I’m participating in a conversation with him and my boyfriend (because I have more …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:15 PM
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But when non-monogamous marriages are taboo, you often run into people that, by their personal nature, are attracted to sex outside of monogamy that get into a monogamous marriage, and end up cheating because of an unfulfilled desire. Even if it’s an otherwise healthy marriage that they aren’t unhappy with overall. Those people should be encouraged to be honest about what they want in a relationship, so that they can better vet for partners that want the same. Non-monogamous marriages between co…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:15 PM
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I don’t think boundaries are reviled publicly. However, mate guarding like what your girlfriend does when she sees another woman talking to is being recognised as socially unhealthy. If someone cheats on their partner, the cheater often does it for personal, psychological reasons. Even people in happy relationships/marriages will cheat sometimes; people who do this despite having an active sex life with their partner/spouse. I think the above happens because those people were sexually attracted …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:01 PM
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Most mammals - in fact, no mammal other than humans - has achieved the technological advancements that we have today. We are animals with instincts, but are also very different from all other animals on Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:07 PM
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Because of medical technology/technological advances, in today’s world, you’re wrong. Women can now have a family and be a provider - especially in countries that bother to make the tools women and men need to accomplish this. The US is clearly behind here. It’s silly to say that women should still be relegated to a role due to our biology in an era where people - like me - shouldn’t be alive according to nature. I was born missing an organ; because of my biology and according to the natural wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:33 PM
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I have severe episodes of Intermittent Depression and ADD, and while admittedly sometimes I’ve let myself go, never to the extent I’m reading here. However, I have worked with people of varying mental issues, and I know this is common with them. I still forget that at times, though, and I should have been more cognisant of that. At work I expect it, but anywhere outside - it surprises me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 03:46 AM
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Then you should get out more. Since our anecdotal evidence doesn’t corroborate each other, maybe you should show me that hard evidence that most young women are unstable?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:09 PM
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All of my teachers except for one high school teacher were socially Conservative. They punished me regularly for displaying “boyish” behavior on the daily and gave preferential treatment to traditionally feminine girls. I was raised in a small, Conservative family AND community. The majority of the girls I grew up with ended pursuing Conservative partners and are raising traditional families. So, that “media brainwashing” mustn’t have been THAT affective - it’s even less effective when you’re li…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:07 PM
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I’m fine with my anecdote being called out- but please show why my anecdote is just that and not an indication of the norm. Actually add to the conversation, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:38 PM
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I have - some are unstable and some are stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:35 PM
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Got a source to verify that most young women unstable? Actual, hard evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:53 PM
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I didn’t know what a feminist was until I was in high school. I decided as a small child that I wanted to work, provide for myself and my family, and have a family. My family and my community discouraged and, on more than one occasion, tried to beat this out of me. The harder they pushed to make me submit, the more I resisted on my own. What feminist brainwashing do you see above even though I had almost no exposure to feminists? Sure, I saw feminist messages on the television (social media was …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:52 PM
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Instability isn’t attractive to me, and I’m a woman. Only women I know that are attracted to instability are unstable themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:22 PM
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Ah, one of those “my opinion is just common sense, so I can’t be wrong no matter what the studies say” types. Plenty of stable, heavily tatted women will find men that are just stable and possibly tatted up themselves. They - regardless of their character that you’ll dismiss for your preconceived notions - are not your type and that’s OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 07:03 PM
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My natural urge to have a career and provide for my family, despite being female, wasn’t beaten into me. My family and community tried to beat it out, and I just took those beatings until I get out of that house/community. Growing up in communities that demanded I submit to a husband and embrace dependency drove to embrace my natural independence even more. Plenty of the people I’ve described that are raising kids outside of a traditional family are raising normal kids. Both parents are still ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:58 PM
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Hard data requires actual studies - conduct one yourself and have it peer reviewed. Or state from the beginning that the 99% is just your opinion and not verified. I’m not blaming men for anything. Why are you assuming this? I just asked for a source verifying this to be 99% true. I don’t have any tattoos, but I plan to get one someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:24 PM
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I’m not saying these people are the majority; but they are growing in commonality. Different cultures differ on what we view as feminine and masculine. Because of modern technology and connectivity, more and more people are developing individual perceptions of what they consider feminine or masculine more and more. So, while you think a career husband and wife are “two fathers,” to them and their family they are a father and mother with values different to yours. And they are just as capable of …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:18 PM
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How on did these men make it that far in life without being told to clean themselves by SOMEONE?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:46 PM
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Got a source for that 99%?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:51 PM
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Except a lot of young surgeons I know are married to other surgeons. My BF is attracted to me because I’m career driven. I know quit a few married women that attracted their husband because they are career driven. One woman even started her own business and is married with three kids with her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:38 PM
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I’m not chasing “Chad” though Lol. Not all women enjoy sleeping around and chasing “Chad’s.” Some of us don’t want to risk STD’s, and want actually to find a normal guy to, settle down and raise a family. This includes attractive women. Once I’ve made enough progress in school, my LTR of almost 4 years and I will progress to the next step. I have never slept around because it’s never appealed to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 02:15 PM
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Plenty of women want a LTR. Problem is, a lot of men haven’t adapted to a society where they have to do more than just make money and hold a job to keep a marriage afloat. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.whitleylawfirmpc.com/3-reasons-why-women-initiate-divorce-more-often-than-men/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:28 PM
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Yes, it’s anecdotal evidence that turns out isn’t the norm. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.whitleylawfirmpc.com/3-reasons-why-women-initiate-divorce-more-often-than-men/amp/ Instead of screaming “ANECDOTE,” maybe provide sources showing why my anecdote isn’t the norm. However, note in my source that the top 3 reasons women initiate divorce are all good reasons to end a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:27 PM
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Ignorance isn’t better just because you don’t know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:35 PM
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Most people regardless of your looks are, at best, OK or, at worst, terrible people. I’m considered attractive (a 7 at the most as long as I keep my weight low), and like most people, at best I consider myself well-meaning and striving to better myself. But at the end of the day, I’m probably just an OK person overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:33 PM
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Or maybe I take antidepressants because of the reasons provided by my psychiatrist and my PCP?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:24 PM
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Lol I’m not surprised that SAHMs are alive and well in the south. 50% of my family is from the Deep South (Texas and Mississippi, respectively). I even come complete with referring to patients with southern terms of endearment. The South has always embraced conservatism/outdated values longer than Midwest/Northern states, and I see it everyday in my own family. I agree that expectations should be left up to individuals. The Conservative community and family that raised me disagreed, and demanded…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:57 PM
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That’s because women are usually in charge of handling documentation and clerical duties within the relationship. My father initiated the divorce with my mother; but he refused to handle any of the paperwork and demanded that she did it all. I literally watched this happen with my own eyes, both in my home as a teenager and professionally as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:49 PM
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Are you saying that we were happier being trapped in marriages by men? Lol I take antidepressants because there’s a genetic component to my depression plus being raised by a father that didn’t want daughters. He even told me he resented us for being born as women. So, trauma + genetics = me being on an antidepressant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:44 PM
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None of your description matches me and many other women I know. It matches some women I do know and have known, though. Maybe you should vet better?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:24 PM
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As someone from a very, VERY red state, I can confirm. It’s upsetting how much pushback I get from people for pursuing a career before a family (I’m female), but my BF doesn’t experience that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:17 PM
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A lot of people demand a return to tradition. Generally, they mean a 50’s era lifestyle. The problem is, this time period has never been the norm; the existence of a middle class where the husband works 9-5 and the wife stays home to care for 2.5 kids and their white picket fence house wasn’t sustainable. Families have always worked - both parents and children - to survive if they weren’t part of the ruling class. The thing is, this isn’t entirely incompatible with certain Liberal values. For ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:16 PM
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I’m sorry you had to deal with that. That was very poor behavior that tells me those women were very immature for their age. As a woman, I was much more courteous to the men I went on dates with - even if I turned out not to be attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 01:01 AM
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That makes sense. The average Millennial (born 1981 - 1995) was raised on “traditional values” at home and most of our media. Alternative lifestyles were became more commonplace in media for the younger half of Millennials (90’s Millennials). For women like me, who naturally couldn’t live by “traditional values” but wants to raise a family, it seems these alternative lifestyle messages from media resonated with us strongly. Millennial men that want to raise families seem to resonate strongly wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:45 PM
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The problem with adoption is that a woman has to go through pregnancy and give birth. A lot of women take daily meds - especially psych meds - that we can’t just quit at a moment’s notice if they’re harmful to the baby. Women are not broodmares - we shouldn’t be forced by law to let a baby we don’t want gestate inside of us and endure the consequences of childbirth to produce children for other people unless we choose to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:59 PM
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Lol It’s not an evasion. I’m just being specific. Details matter. Oh, and for reasons women abort: Women’s reasons for seeking an abortion fell into 11 broad themes. The predominant themes identified as reasons for seeking abortion included financial reasons (40%), timing (36%), partner related reasons (31%), and the need to focus on other children (29%). Most women reported multiple reasons for seeking an abortion crossing over several themes (64%). Using mixed effects multivariate logistic reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:36 PM
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More than enough families willing to take these babies as their own, not children. That’s why the foster care system is overrun with children. Frankly, after a couple went through and adopted a baby, I suspect that adoption centres care more for profit than the families or babies. For example: the couple spent 30k on an African American boy in their state; but the mother changed her mind during labor, so the family had to hold another fundraiser and try again. This time, they adopted a girl that…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:39 PM
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Murder is not practical - but ending a human life can be if it’s done for logical reasons such as survival. If it’s done for cruelty alone (such as hatred toward an ethnic group) then it becomes murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:13 PM
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The thing is, normal people - such as our ancestors - often had to abandon family to die when their numbers exceeded their resources. Excess children, the elderly, etc. Abortion is a modern variation of this tragic concept; it’s also kinder since it’s being performed before the baby has finished developing instead of abandoning a child to die alone, slowly of starvation or disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:11 PM
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When did I suggest that they weren’t human beings? Lol My justifications are not weak excuses - they are logical reasons that would lead people to abort their pregnancy. Your refusal to understand that is apparent from your emotion laden tangents, rather than logical rebuttals. Then again, I have actually worked for three different hospitals. My personal experiences growing up and work experience led to me developing a more practical attitude than your “good vs evil” perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:38 PM
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For dating without a pre-existing social circle: dating events. For dating within social circles: Group activities that I’m actively interested in. I actually my current boyfriend through our shared friend group. I had recently moved back to the area, and he had a crush on me before when we were younger. So, he reached out and we just hit it off from there :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:33 PM
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It’s the kinder option because the children are not fully formed and haven’t been born. Unlike our ancestors, when we have to make hard decisions like this, we don’t have to abandon our children or elderly in the woods to save the rest of our family. Abortions are still tragic, but it’s still the kinder option sometimes. You don’t want to hear the various reasons that lead someone to become pro-choice. It’s easier for you envision everyone on the pro-choice side as cruel and evil rather than acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:43 PM
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Of course, you decide that someone with mental issues must be unfit to discuss morality. In the 60’s, the social climate was different. Admitting that you were pregnant outside of marriage risked social ramifications. In a small town back then, that’s not a small deal. Nowadays adoption is a better option by the social climate is different. But that’s up to the mother to decide - especially if she has health issues, has to take any medications that she would have to quit for the pregnant, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:19 PM
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It’s easier to hide the pregnancy from your family when you choose to abort vs 9 months of pregnancy and giving birth. This was the 60’s, back when family and social pressure had more weight. No, I’m not advocating for “aborting” kids in try foster system.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:04 PM
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Hard to do that when the mother’s family and father’s family demand that you and the father get married. This was the 60’s and most shotgun weddings happened because of these situations. After 6 years of fist fights and constant arguing, my grandfather walked out on them. Hate to say it, but most families don’t want to adopt kids with baggage - they want newborns. Which is why our foster care system is overwhelmed with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:48 PM
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Not sales. Definitely not sales.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:54 PM
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How does a male wearing make up kill more people than a serial killer? Or anyone for that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:01 PM
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Obviously not. But that’s because they’re bothering people involves murdering them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:34 PM
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Or maybe you should leave people alone and let them live their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:47 PM
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It’s weird how many pro-choice people there are that are pro-choice because we value the child’s quality of life. The “pro-life” crowd’s compassion ends outside of the womb - then it’s back to voting for politicians that defund social programs that would help the parents of these unwanted pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:26 PM
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When did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:21 PM
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I’m not trying paint myself as an intellectual. I’m just being honest about why I’m pro-choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:48 AM
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And who would that be?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:58 PM
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You can’t give a legitimate reason other than “feelz”, so you’re trolling with a vine reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:43 PM
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Would avoiding pregnancy be better? Yes. Would parents wanting them be kinder? Yes. But you can’t force it - that’s how we end up with our overburdened foster care system, kids being abused and not receiving the care they need to thrive, etc. Everyone I have met that grew up in the foster care system has been sexually abused by caretakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:33 PM
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I can’t condone outlawing abortions and forcing unwanted babies into a world that doesn’t want them. It’s senseless. Letting them go is kinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:15 PM
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Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:30 PM
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TDLR If you care about quality of life, then it’s senseless to force an unwanted pregnancy. The kids chance aren’t that great.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:20 PM
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My grandmother was born in the 40’s, so no, contraception wasn’t as accessible or encouraged. I agree that it’s better to try to prevent unwanted pregnancies. But if it happens, it’s senseless to force an unwanted pregnancy on someone. The loss of life is tragic, but sometimes it’s kinder. Also, 25% of abortions happen because the mother/parents were not ready; 23% because the mother/parents couldn’t afford a baby; 19% reported that their children are grown/at the end of child rearing years. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:11 PM
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“You were a fetus at some point. You are only alive today because your mother didn’t about you while you were a fetus.” Stating the above does have whatever profound affect you guys are going for. It’s an appeal to emotion that ignores legitimate reasons to abort. Yes, aborting is ending a potential human life. But some of us have learned that it’s senseless and cruel to force an unwanted pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:23 PM
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Even if it’s not 100% fatal, the chances of the woman dying is high, the baby is guaranteed to to die. What’s the point of refusing these women an abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:08 PM
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There’s other circumstances where I understand women aborting. Such as women suffering from severe mental health issues that don’t want the pregnancy. My grandmother was mentally unfit to be a mother - she showed all the signs of narcissism- and she didn’t want my father. But she couldn’t get an abortion, so she abused my father - leading him to develop mental disorder and personality disorders. When my father didn’t have any sons, he resented me and my sister. He physically and emotionally abus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:05 PM
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I don’t agree with using abortion as birth control, but if supporting pro-choice laws protects these women, I don’t have much choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:52 PM
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Well, the good news is their kicking it to the states. Blue states are generally in favour of pro-choice laws, so women with these fatal pregnancies in blue states would be fine. But I come from a Midwestern red state. Most people there would celebrate any law that opposes abortion without thinking to read the bill and learn what they’re outlawing. It’s sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:43 PM
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But some states are proposing legislation that would outlaw treating Ectopic Pregnancies. Ohio and Missouri have put forth bills that would require the doctor to “re-implant” the zygote in the womb, even though that’s impossible. Once detached, the zygote can re-implant. The bills haven’t been passed yet, but Republican legislators are afraid of suggesting we ban the abortion of these fatal pregnancies. Also, miscarriages that fail to leave the body are literally called “Missed Abortions” as the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:28 PM
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I agree that corporations and banks are influencing politics. Um, could you explain why you think we’re dealing with literal descendants of the devil?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:18 PM
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Have you heard of Ectopic Pregnancies? The egg is fertilised and implants in the Fallopian tube. If the zygote is not removed, most women will die. Or what about miscarriages that fail to be expelled from the body? The dead zygote/embryo remains attached and if it’s not removed, women are likely to become septic and die.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:12 PM
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Or, instead of murdering people, we can focus on voting locally - local elections are held more often than the presidential election - and get more politicians that actually represent their constituents into Congress.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:06 PM
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Genetic testing can help parents determine the risks and use that testing to select for a zygote. Most the defects of caused by DNA damage are rare diseases; and medical scientists are already studying for new ways to repair DNA damage. DNA repair is a naturally occurring process that helps some, so it’s not impossible. Do you have a source to prove these kids will have lower IQs and poorer health? I doubt a women over 30 would want to have kids with, so you’re safe there. What’s your education …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:36 PM
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It’s not that much of a drawback. But if that’s not for you, then don’t do it. Professional couples can coordinate their schedules to facilitate better cooperation. The parent that WFH during the day, and then both parents when they’re both home. Or maybe the grandparents or other family live close enough to take care of the kids during the work day. Any close relative or a hired, trusted family friend can take care of them when they’re babies; the parents can coordinate their schedules to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:26 PM
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“Several studies have shown that although advanced maternal and paternal age at childbearing entails increased risks, the population-level improvements over the 20th century described above seem to counterbalance the risks associated with advanced parental age. After taking period improvements into account, children born to older mothers in Sweden have higher cognitive ability [32], are taller, have better grades in high school, and achieve greater educational attainment [33]. Furthermore, child…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:46 AM
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Most professional couples split duties at home. WFH makes it easier for both husband and wife to have a career and have one of them take care of baby/small child. If you don’t want the government to raise them, then don’t use the school system like a daycare and help their teachers educate your kids. It sounds like you want control of everything in the relationship. And an educated, professional women is more likely to be assertive; the marriage is a partnership, and both parents are responsible…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:15 AM
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I don’t understand people like you. Medical science is advanced enough to produce healthy children later in life; but then there is the loud minority - people that think like you - who insist that you know more that the experts that help these patients everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:40 AM
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Why do you think it’s a bad choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:34 AM
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That didn’t stop these surgeons from having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:49 AM
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Lol I’ll stick to what doctors, NP and nurses have told me. Their literal experts in fetal development. There’s genetic testing to make couples have healthy reproductive material; and there’s technology that can help couples get pregnant with a healthy zygote.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:48 AM
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Thanks to medical technology, these pregnancies can work. I saw healthy pregnancies from older couples everyday when I worked in L&D.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:33 AM
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My boyfriend will only consider marriage once I go to university and either match his education or surpass it, and pursue a career. Surgeons who marry their peers want the same thing my boyfriend wants: an equal in both education and hard skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:31 AM
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I’m a woman and I’m not interest in any of that. Social media I use to stay connected with people I; but otherwise that as much I do with it. Some women I know are into those hobbies, some aren’t. However, I know plenty of men and women with those personality issues. They’re obviously poor choices to date or get involved with period. But I also know men and women in healthy relationships and have been for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:50 AM
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Allegedly, the Blue-pill is society teaching boys that girls are virtuous and will love you unconditionally. They were taught idolise girls. I’ll be honest, I’m only just understanding what the Blue-pill seems to be; but for the life of me, I don’t see how these people reach adulthood without noticing that that’s wrong. None of the boys I grew up with thought this by fourth grade if they taught this nonsense. But I do remember being taught: - There’s someone out there for everyone. - People shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:30 AM
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See, I don’t see how anyone left elementary school believing this about girls/women. I’m woman and I had poor social skills for my age group until high school; but even I understood that women can be terrible people, too. None of the boys viewed girls this way. Now we were taught not to treat each other like sex objects - but again, I saw boys and girls doing that each other all the time starting in high school. And while we were taught looks aren’t important, there’s someone out there for every…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:59 AM
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Thank you! I’m honestly by when RPers talk about society lying to them, telling them how perfect girls were, and then BOOM they saw how common women who are terrible people is, maybe they even have some bad relationships, but either way they “know the truth now.” I’m here like “How have you lived this long not knowing most people suck?” This coming from a woman that terrible social skills for my age until I was in high school. I don’t see how anyone left elementary school thinking that women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:51 AM
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That sounds reasonable to me :) My father wouldn’t spank us immediately- he wanted us to be afraid and begging him not to hurt us first.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:49 AM
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I was raised with the “punish failure” and “self esteem is bad” approach. I learned to fear failure, and the pressure to do well in school to avoid punishment made it harder for me to learn the material, so I would do poorly and be punished again. I also struggle to accept compliments and praise because I never feel like I deserve it. I am never good enough. Did I receive praise for success and doing well? Yes, but I behaved and succeeded because of fear. When you live in fear like that, being p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:31 AM
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The Bible teaches that women are submit to their husbands. Different denominations treat this differently, but in my mother’s generation the idea “submitting to their husbands” often meant pleasing him sexually, even when they didn’t want to, felt sick and/or their husband didn’t please her in return. My mom believed this, and that’s also why she wouldn’t divorce my father even though he abused us (the kids). She believed that God’s word was the most important, but then the needs of the husband …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:00 AM
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I used to debate more aggressively; now I’m too focused on my real life, that I don’t have that kind energy anymore. Plus, I can be wrong, I need to accept that and potentially grow from debates. I agree that the feminist message I grew up with (“men and women are equals/the same”) was wrong. We are different - just like individuals are different. My US History taught us that Feminism was a movement that wanted men and women to be equal under the law. That is the Feminist I subscribe to. Humans …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:38 AM
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Every young male surgeon I have ever met (I used to work for surgeons) is married to a female surgeon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:31 AM
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Lol That’s just wrong. I used to work in Labor & Delivery - saw plenty of new parents in their 30’s and early 40’s with healthy pregnancies. Modern medical technology makes this possible
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:23 AM
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Seriously, if my grandmother had been allowed to abort my dad, he wouldn’t have spent childhood being beaten and constantly reminded that his never didn’t want him. He would never had abused me, my sister or my mother if his existence wasn’t forced on two people that didn’t want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:07 AM
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The truth is morbid - my dad was unwanted, but since my grandmother couldn’t abort him, she abused him and he developed mental disorders. When I was born a girl and my parents couldn’t afford to try for a son, he resented me and my sister and abused us. I struggle with mental disorders since childhood. I’m getting help now, but I’ve decided that aborting unwanted pregnancies is most likely the kinder option.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:03 AM
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It’s not genocide - there is not a concentrated effort to kill all children/babies. Also, as a dysfunctional child of a dysfunctional man that only exists because my grandmother couldn’t abort him (so she abused him instead), I’ve decided that aborting an unwanted pregnancy is kinder. My father shouldn’t have been born, and he shouldn’t have had kids; I’m only planning to have kids because I’ve sought treatment for my mental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:55 AM
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Yes, Christians are more likely to adopt - newborns babies, that is. Churches often hold fundraisers for members that need it. Which is why adoption agencies can make money and most kids in the foster system remain are never adopted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:14 PM
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“I am more willing to help a woman lift something heavy…” That reasonable - biologically we are less capable of heavy lifting (on average). “…put in the extra ten minutes to explain more complex issues so they understand it, put in 5-10 minutes long listening to the emotional side of whatever issue (regardless of how much I actually give a fuck).” Two questions: 1. Can you define the “complex issues” you explain with some examples? 2. Have you considered they appreciate you BECAUSE they don’t kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:16 PM
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Lol Have you worked around upper class men and women before? I have when I worked in an OR. If a surgeon was another surgeon’s son (and most were), they would name drop their fathers anytime they didn’t receive preferential treatment. In my hometown, the boys in my class often led with who their parent’s were. Since their family’s were well connected, teachers treated them favourably. When men are born into wealth and/or a family a strong social network, their money/name will open doors faster t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:57 PM
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Let me put it this way: The woman who’ve obtained influential positions without earning them did through the “Good Old Boy” system. Guess why it’s called that? It’s a type of social networking that became popular in the corporate world, before women were accepted into the higher echelons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:47 PM
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“… that men cannot emulate.” This is false. Men can create and maintain social connections and networks just as well as women. All of the men and women I’ve known with strong social networks has moderate to high social intelligence. Lol Not all “successful” men earned their positions in life. Men are just as guilty of being unjustly rewarded a position they’re unfit for; again, these positions are objected through their social networks or nepotism (if they come from money).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:41 PM
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Yes, you’re right - exceptions don’t make the norm. Note that I pointed out that the majority consisted of the men and women. Humans are social animals; most men and women will obey the status quo to survive. It’s easy to think that men are more likely to go against the grain, because men have held the reigns of our country until now. But if you do your research, you’ll learn about those few women that influenced their societies. These rare women were just as rare as their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 11:31 PM
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Discussing a patient’s health with the doctor gives the patient/parent a chance to ask questions and be better informed. The doctor is enforcing gender roles and the parents are less informed about her patient’s health. Whereas the salesman denying you your purchase just means your money will go to a business that doesn’t have these sexist sales practices, and you can use social media and word of mouth to make them lose business.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:25 AM
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Ectopic pregnancies and Missed Abortions (this is the actual name for when the body fails to miscarry, and if the zygote isn’t aborted, the woman will develop a septic infection and die) are more common than you think. Abortion is healthcare because without it, when pregnancies go wrong, women can and will die from medical conditions that can’t be treated without aborting the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:04 AM
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So, when the Suffragettes were being opposed by the majority of men and women, those women weren’t going against the grain?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:44 AM
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When a pregnancy or a failure to miscarry threatens a woman’s life, the pregnancies needs to be aborted. Because there’s a both she and the baby will die.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:16 AM
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The entitlement used as an example was abortion - which falls under healthcare. Countries that have determined that the right to access to healthcare is a human right, have socially funded healthcare system. Their healthcare systems often rank higher than America’s for-profit healthcare model because the cost of healthcare isn’t a barrier for those countries. In America, if you are a low earning socioeconomic class, you could end up with medical debt you can’t pay back or avoid care you need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 12:44 AM
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Logical Rules-Based thinking doesn’t mean your a critical thinker. Critical thinking requires good logical skills and social/emotional intelligence - which them more empathetic. You have to be good at both to solve complex issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 12:10 AM
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I used to work for an ER. The timeliness of when you receive care depends on two things: 1. the severity of complaints/symptoms exhibited (your Acuity Level), which is determined after being triaged. 2. And the Acuity Level of all of the other patients. Patients with higher Acuities are going to see the doctor before you - even if they just signed in and you’ve waited for 5 hours. I’ve seen a lot of patients leave without care because of that, and none of them had high Acuities. If the doctor wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:43 PM
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Have you considered that, in school, he was taught the Christopher Columbus was a hero, and his current opinion may have come later in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:08 PM
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But how do you know that the hormones made them gay? Because when my dose for my hormone meds is too high, my sexuality never changed and I’m still attracted to my boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:03 PM
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How do you know that they weren’t already bi/gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 05:57 PM
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So, I went back, and now I see where I wrote that. When I talk to people on here, I’ll go through some rewrites (especially on large posts), and for a few days, I’ve been running on a couple of hours of sleep from working and studying. This is what I get writing and rewriting long posts on Reddit while I’m sleep deprived. I’m sorry for the miscommunication.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:41 PM
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I doubt hormones change your sexual preferences. I was born without a thyroid - which is the organ that regulates ALL of the hormones in your body. I was diagnosed at the hospital and put on meds to substitute my thyroid. Occasionally, my body decides the dose is too or too low. There’s a few symptoms that let me know I need my dose adjusted. In my 29 years alive, my thyroid meds and adjusting my dose has never affected my sexuality/preferences. Now when my dose needs to be adjusted, do I feel t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:15 AM
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I doubt that birth control pills tricking our body into thinking it’s pregnant would result in us entering some “nesting mode” that prefers the “soft, safe provider.” I’m assuming this “nesting mode” lowers women’s libido? Because, while not all women have this experience, a lot of women enjoy higher libido. Primarily during the third trimester.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:33 AM
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Yeah, she was pretty toxic. But I don’t know what happened to her after that. I only found out because my ex contacted me and he suddenly decided that he missed me. I responded by blocking him. How is it about my ego? If my partner agrees to a monogamous relationship, but secretly he doesn’t actually want that monogamy, how am I wrong for leaving him for cheating on me/telling me he wants a hall pass to whore around later in our relationship by cheating on me. The answer is obvious: he told what…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:59 PM
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Say what? I never accused you of saying father want to have sex with their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:11 PM
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I was speaking casually (using gender neutral language occasionally) because I assumed you had enough context to understand that I’m talking about a heterosexual relationship between a man a woman. Equality under the law exists between the sexes. Lol I’m not that naive. My ex-boyfriend was my first boyfriend. He convinced me to stay give him a second chance, that he would never cheat again. A few months later, his side hoe messages me and outed them. Apparently she was pressuring him to leave an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:53 PM
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The 20th century is a little more recent than Ancient History - including Boomers. Millennials and Gen Z’s waiting to have kids later or choosing childless lifestyles more than previous generations makes us an anomaly. But my boyfriend is the exception for putting his family first. Lol Just because there’s more men now that don’t want kids doesn’t mean ALL men don’t. My boyfriend and I know couples that share our views. We also know men and women that don’t want kids. When I accuse of saying tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:25 PM
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Here’s a question: How can I trust him not cheat on me again? Cheating spouses are likely to keep cheating. What if he’s cheating on me with more than one woman? Promiscuity increases the risk of getting an STD, and cheating spouses often give their spouse an STD if they get one. What if he knocks up another woman? If my husband cheats, I can’t trust him not to cheat again. I want nothing do those with the potential consequences of cheating, so I will divorce him. That’s why I can’t forgive him.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:12 AM
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What?? Lol History proves “men care more about fucking their offspring” wrong. All throughout history, men were driven by biology to breed and have a lot of kids and acquire enough resources to make that most of those kids grew up to procreate and carry on his DNA. Ensuring the continued existence of their DNA is the reason men don’t want be tricked into raising another man’s child. Everytime a man’s wife gave birth, there was a high risk she would die; but back then, kids died more often, so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 12:30 AM
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I mean, the “biology determines gender expression” and “environment and different hormonal cocktails” should both be right. When people say that biology determines gender differences, they are almost always referring to our sexual organs. They aren’t thinking about the fact that we are a social species, therefore our social environment is going to influence how our brain and how our personal hormone cocktail develops as we grow. For some reason, people that argue against gender differences being…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:37 PM
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I’ve moved out of that town, but not the state yet. My boyfriend and are going to move out of state when we’re ready to raise a family :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:10 PM
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If we divorced, I would make sure to stay within driving distance of where he lives. If he chooses to move states away for work, I’m willing to split the cost for plane tickets so that our kids can still see him often. Since I would to co-parent, I wouldn’t want child support. We would regularly communicate costs for the kids and we’d both contribute to those costs. That’s a more logical way for a divorced couple to co-parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:10 PM
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Lol Our looks have nothing to do with it. He’s a 5-6 and I’m an 6-7 as long as I stay healthy. I don’t have to ask him because we’ve discussed our long term plans before. If I asked him to let me do everything you suggested, he would tell me the relationship can’t work out. If that makes him the exception, great, I’ve found my unicorn. He wants me be a high-earner financially because: A. That increases the family’s buying power and financial safety. B. My boyfriend lives in the real world. When …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:02 PM
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I will know it’s right. Why? Because both of us made it known from the beginning that the relationship is over if either of us cheats. If he cheats on me, he will do it with the knowledge that the relationship/marriage is over and must face the consequences his decision. I said that if I ever divorce him, we’ll have joint custody and co-parent. I’ll make sure the kids get to see him when they want to. Both of us will stay active in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:56 PM
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If someone steals from me, I’m going to let them have whatever they’re taking - there’s no sense in risking my or my BF’s life. If I’m attacked I’ll react and try to defend myself - I keep an easy access conceal carry for that reason. If he gets broke or does not try hard I’ll leave him? What? He expects me to try hard, so I expect the same. He will only be understanding if I lose my job UNLESS I was fired for being irresponsible (late all the time, etc). We can’t afford for me to not work, so I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:52 PM
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He and I split chores because we both work full time. I had already worked and done my chores, and he said he would handle dinner and kept putting it off. A real man keeps his word.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:23 PM
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They are not saying biology is hate. I can agree that our biologies might make men and women, on average, better suited for certain roles. However, in today’s society with our modern technology, women like me - naturally career driven, becoming an NP is a calling to me, prefer providing - and men like my boyfriend - who wants to be a SAHD and focus on his kids, running the home, the home improvement projects he loves, and make his own schedule - and I can pursue my career as the provider and he …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 01:31 AM
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Well, my boyfriend and I have agreed he’ll be the SADH and I’ll be the provider based on how personalities and skills. So, when I pay our dinner pay I’m more than happy to. He’s not less masculine to me for wanting to become a SADH. If anything, after being raised by a father that didn’t want me, a man wanting to prioritise fatherhood and be involved with his kids makes a real man/seem more masculine to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:55 AM
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I agree to a point. My boyfriend and I have agreed he will be a SADH while I’m the breadwinner. He prefers taking care of our house, the dogs and pursing personal projects to work. I’m career driven to the point that it’s a calling. We both want to raise a family, and it’s beneficial for one parent to be home with the kids while they’re little. In a society that enforced strict gender roles, neither my boyfriend or I could choose the role we want in our own relationship. In this post-modern soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:47 AM
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Being pregnant doesn’t always make a woman disabled. I’ve worked with plenty of nurses that didn’t take time off until the delivery. Near the last two months they often went on light duty (it’s hard to lift people properly when you got a big ole baby belly), but they still did most of their usual work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:34 AM
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I think she accused you of being predatory because, purity culture discourages young people from experiencing relationships, their sexuality, and use those experiences to inform what they want from a partner and a relationship. Which is important to know before committing to someone. I don’t agree with dating multiple people at the same time, and I don’t think men and women should discover themselves hoeing around their entire 20’s. But I was a virgin when I met my first boyfriend at 19. He was …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:22 AM
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You’re seriously suggesting half of the human species has mental disorders? Can you show me your sources? What disorders do most women allegedly have?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:59 PM
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Hmm, I see your point. Lashes isn’t the right word. When we argue, we rarely raise her voices and we always reconcile. Lazy wasn’t the right word. Sometimes there’s conflict because it’s been a hard day, sometimes he gets in a bad mood and is playing a game to unwind (we usually play video games together). Sometimes he’ll procrastinate and not help with dinner or whatever he promised to do. So, say I’ve gently reminded him a few times a few hours apart (maybe I’m studying - he said he’ll handle …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:53 PM
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It’s not about pride. Both of have us have already agreed to a monogamous relationship- that will be expected when we get married. If he decides to betray on of one the foundations of our marriage - loyalty to the family we are building (not to mention, risk knocking up his side hoe or an STD), then I can never forgive him. Again, I would have want split custody and to co-parent. I would lose all respect for him. Allowing infidelity - even “just once” - introduces another person. When my girlfri…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:26 PM
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Right now he does; but we want to wait until I’ve made it through my degree first. And once I’m established somewhere I will easily outearn him. I’m seeking therapy because I don’t want to carry my baggage into my future. For my boyfriend and our future children’s sakes. If I wanted to change him, then I wouldn’t be this loyal to him. I love him - I’m not going to try to change him into someone else when I fell in love with him as he is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:14 PM
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It doesn’t matter whether it’s worse for me or him to cheat. My point is, I expect the same loyalty from him. If he decides he can’t handle staying loyal, then bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:08 PM
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False Accusations—Defamation of Character by Libel or Slander This is the title of the law. Pressing false charges falls under this law.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:04 PM
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No, it’s not OK for me to shout. That’s why when I did, my I apologized to him - it was wrong - after our 30 minute break. I’m not hyper sensitive to being shouted at. But you’ve said before that men should respond to arguments by aggressively shrieking at their wives. Escalating an argument is not healthy, hence using deescalation techniques such as going to different rooms until we calm down. I will not stay with men that thinks it’s acceptable to aggressively shout down their wife because of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:03 PM
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Sorry, I forgot that detail. No, I’m not leaving my BF of 3 years that I’m currently building a life with just to get a rich guy. I want to work and have my own income, and my boyfriend wants to stay home to focus on running the house and raising the kids. Sometimes parents bicker, and sometimes it happens in front of children. What matters is that the parent that shouts is confronted and the kids see that parent own up to their bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 09:50 PM
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I agree she should have left him much sooner for our sake. I think she stayed for financial stability. I’m not sure why she didn’t call the police. My mom didn’t want to sue my dad for child support because he became disabled. My dad’s side chick left him after the accident, and until he recovered enough to take care of himself, she went over to the house everyday to help him. I think my mom acted the way she did during their divorce, because at one time, my parents did love each other. I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 09:45 PM
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No, my dad was NOT a cop. My NEIGHBOR was a cop. This is the third time I’ve said this. I agree that courts go to easy on women. Family court often favours women, and women tend to receive lighter sentences. All wrong - the courts should sentence us in accordance to the crime like they do with men. Actually, it is illegal to press false charges in the US. https://www.nycbar.org/get-legal-help/article/personal-injury-and-accidents/false-accusations/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:44 PM
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I wasn’t traumatised by my father living in the house. It was because he verbally and physically abused us. I’m not going to divorce willy nilly. But I learned spouses that think it’s OK to speak disrespectfully to you, or “to be cruel to their woman” as you put it - that is verbal abuse, and I will leave my husband for that. I will not stay and teach my kids to tolerate a spouse that verbally abuses them. I will request shared custody and co-parent with him. I will not tolerate any abuse in a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:38 PM
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Anytime I have yelled at my BF, he has refused to tolerate it and exits the room until we both calm down, and can come back with a clear head. He tells me - calmly - that my shouting was inexcusable and makes me own my inappropriate behavior. We talk things throw and move on. What seen are you talking about? My BF and I never have arguments in public. We’ve only had arguments in the privacy of our home. What made you think this was public? I don’t want a father figure for a husband. My BF is a v…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:28 PM
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Okay, in my example, the husband wasn’t a cop. By “working with” the cop, I meant the cop take the husband’s side and offer resources to help him. But the husband was not a cop. My father was not a cop, I said my next door neighbour was a cop - a negligent cop that couldn’t be bothered to stop domestic abuse during his off hours. He was physically and verbally abusive to all three of us. My mom refused to leave because she was afraid she couldn’t support us. We would’ve been living on food stamp…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:14 PM
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I’m American in the Midwest. Usually, in my experience, police sided with the husband because: a. He had proof. b. Have you seen someone spit at people before? I have, and they often combative and keep trying to spit (usually they end up wearing a “beekeeper hat” over their head). Usually these people react combatively in front of the police. So, if the officer shows up and can see that she is unstable, evidence she has assaulted her husband, the police took the husband’s side. People that act l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:46 PM
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Humans are definitely motivated by selfishness to some degree. For example, when I see other Feminists act like misandrists, I feel offended and immediately confront them. I think the reason I react that way, is because I think “What if I have a son? I don’t want my future/possible son to be treated this way” or alternatively “What if I have a daughter? She needs to see that sexism shouldn’t be tolerated period. She needs to see her Feminist momma refusing to tolerate sexism and abusive behavior…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:37 PM
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If my husband is wrong, then he better be a REAL MAN and take ownership - especially in front of our kids. If we have a son, my son will be taught to respect both of us, and he will learn that real men take ownership of their mistakes. It’s not emasculating for their wife to call them out. If they react by shrieking at her, then he emasculated himself. I wouldn’t hit my boyfriend in an argument. We’ve had plenty of heated arguments, and I have never felt like hitting him. I agree that, if the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:25 PM
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The abuse was that bad. But she couldn’t afford to raise us alone, so she stayed and they divorced once we were both adults. I can tell you divorcing my dad would have been better for my sister and I. No child should have to grow up watching one of their parents be abused. He refused to go to therapy, and our next door neighbour was a cop. He checked on us periodically, but he never intervened during the abuse. The cops I’ve worked with told me about his track record when I talked to them years …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:00 PM
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If there’s an alpha/beta dynamic, it’s probably closer to even. Normally I agree with splitting tasks; when my BF does housework, I’ll be his helper and let him lead. Handling the emergency with our dog by myself wasn’t intended, I just had tunnel vision Lol. Encouraging men to self-care, pursue their goals, and to carefully vet women to find the right partner for the life he wants for his family: This is one thing I applaud RP for. Feminism (or certain groups in the movement), disregards the ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:45 PM
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If your wife suddenly thinks it’s OK to assault you or others by spitting on them, you absolutely should call the police and have her taken to the hospital for a psych evaluation. In my experience, people who do that aren’t stable and need professional help. Police brought women in for assaulting their boyfriend or their husband regularly. Usually the SO came to the hospital and the police were understanding, and worked with him to make his wife without hurting herself or others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:32 PM
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I’ve had an argument like that recently. My boyfriend didn’t scream STFU. He simply walked out of the room, and after 30 minutes - after both of us had calmed down - we talked through the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:27 PM
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Actually, these families lived very comfortably. They even had enough to get by for a time; but the wife’s earning power was too low to get a job that would support the quality of life her family had with her husband. Savings can only carry families so far. So, I always encourage both the husband and wife have their own financial safety nets (such as through investments and other assets). This is also assuming the husband dies. I have read about high earning men’s entire savings being wiped out …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:26 PM
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I want to be a higher earner because, if my husband abuses, I want to do my duty as their mother and get them out of that situation. My mom “made it work” with my dad, and I can’t tell you how hard it was for my sister and I to grow up watching her be abused by him. My sister has decided not marry and not have kids because of it. I want to raise a family, but I will walk if he abuses or disrespects me; it’s not healthy for kids to grow up watching one of their parents abuse the other. As long as…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:19 PM
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That’s great! Then I’m all for you pursuing this lifestyle. So, SO many people don’t prepare for the worst. I have seen so many families devastated by this. I agree that one parent should be home, though, so instead of telling you you should work, I simply encourage people to start investing now and building a financial safety ASAP. It’s better to have a financial safety that that’s never actually needed, then to not have it when it is needed :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:11 PM
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I’m not more alpha and he’s not more beta. We don’t submit to/dominate each other (well, I’m submissive in the bedroom :3) in our everyday life. He’s assertive when he does housework because he’s better at that than I am. I’m assertive during an emergency (I jumped to action when our dog swallowed dropped food that could’ve been toxic and raced to the vet - went alone. Later, I had the fun job of restraining her and giving her meds to prevent her stomach from absorbing the food/make her throw it…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:09 PM
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Um, if a guy’s partner spat in his face or anyone’s face, if he doesn’t slap her, then I absolutely will and call the police on her. That can be categorised as assault. Usually when people are arrested for this kind of thing, they’re taken to an ER with a psych unit for a mental evaluation. (Source: I have worked for an ER.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:01 PM
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If my boyfriend yells “STFU” at me for reminding him to do something, I will end the relationship and live in car. I’m attractive to him when he’s assertive and confident; but shrieking “STFU” at me because I’m having to hound him to do something he was supposed to do, that is disrespect. I will not tolerate that the way my mom did.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:56 PM
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When I worked for an ER, I met a lot of families where the husband and wife had the dynamic you want. In cases where the husband became disabled or died, his wife and children were devastated financially. The mom had not worked for years, and they could only get low-paying entry level jobs. I suggest at least working part-time to build up a savings and look into investing. You never know what will happen, and for your children, it’s important for your to have a financial safety net outside of yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:44 PM
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Lol We’re not trying to go against the grain. But I need to be out working in the community, it’s my nature, and I want to serve the community as an NP. My boyfriend wants to raise a family, and he loves finding projects around the house to do when he’s not playing video games. The wider acceptance of working mom and SAHD just makes it easier for us to live the lifestyle that will make us happy while raising a family together :) I can agree that it’s important for one parent to run the household…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:38 PM
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This is exactly why men and women need to have their own careers. So that men and women both have the power to walk away from the women and you’re describing, and the men like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:26 PM
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“Who’s going to pick them up everyday?” I guess that works for me, since if I’m planning to pursue a Master’s as a NP. We’ve discussed my boyfriend pursuing contractor work so that he can contribute financially when he has the time, and be a full time SAHD. He’s not as a career driven but he wants to raise a family, and he’s handier around the house than I am. It makes more sense for the handier person to run the house while I’m serving our community as an NP. Your sister’s situation is my night…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:16 PM
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What is a “top guy” to you? Objectively, my boyfriend is average looking with an good job. I have turned down advances from more attractive and successful men without hesitation because I’m committed to building and raising a family with my boyfriend. To me, my boyfriend is THE top guy because I’m choosing to share my life with him and join his family.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:44 PM
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“After I learned about TRP, I’ve. Even more hypergamous and gotten higher value men.” See, I’m not hypergamous at all. I’ve been approached by high-value men and shot them down immediately because I’m committed to my boyfriend - who is objectively an average guy. But I love him and I want a family with him. I want to join HIS family. He thinks my ambition is attractive and thinks it’s important that we are both high earners. Both of us want to make sure the other can afford to support the family…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:41 PM
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You just described my hometown, but the incest was intentional. In fact, this describes the southern region of my state.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:27 PM
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Well, I went on a genealogy binge a while back and found my paternal grandparent’s divorce paperwork and great grandparents (it’s amazing what you can dig up when you know a genealogist). This was before “no fault divorce,” so the reason given was “abandonment.” My great-grandfather walked out on his wife and children (sounds like both my great-grandfather and my great-grandmother were garbage to each other), married a woman a decade younger than his wife and had a kid with her. Despite the reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:15 PM
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Why would we blame men for high divorce rates in lesbian marriages? O.o I’ve heard women solely blame men, and men solely blame women. In my experience, the one that’s blaming only the other sex makes me think that individual was at fault in their own divorce/break ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:56 PM
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Why are women incapable of balancing a career and family? The only I know like that would rather be SAHM’s. Women that want a career do just fine usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:45 PM
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When I’m approached by a man - good looking or otherwise - I always brush his advances off primarily because: A. I’m in a committed relationship. B. I’m busy. (Busy with work, studying or running errands.) In my experience, a lot of men have been socialised to think that’s it’s acceptable to interrupt a woman even when she’s working/busy. It’s apparently acceptable to expect women to stop their task and acknowledge the guy’s interest. IMO It’s rude to interrupt someone that’s clearly trying to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:36 PM
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I understand that, RIGHT NOW, women have the same right to credit lines, etc. But it’s important to understand how recently the average woman has attained many of the same rights as men here in our countries. And how much work there is left for both sexes. Here’s a timeline for various laws regarding women’s rights. https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/credit-cards/women-credit-decades-70s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:03 PM
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Female.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 08:58 PM
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Well, an older woman is free to do that as long as he is a legal adult. I think it’s creepy, even then, but if they’re legal adults it’s their business. Most people here tell adolescents that, too, in America. But we were all teenagers and we all know that most teens are going to do it. They should be encouraged to do it safely and taught about contraception - and they should only be encouraged to date their own age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:08 PM
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People don’t have to put off sex until they’re an adult. Teenagers are going to have sex, but it’s a problem when they’re screwing outside of their own age group (with adults instead of other teenagers).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:47 PM
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I don’t believe the US has laws like that. It’s not that unheard of here, and banks heavily push for people to open a credit card (with different credit cards that offer bonuses/perks for people with a good credit history). But even in your example, when married women couldn’t have a credit card in their own name, that would’ve also prevented them from renting/putting down a deposit where that’s required. Banks are good at calculating this stuff, but that was irrelevant when married women legall…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:45 PM
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The human brain doesn’t fully develop (mature) until ages 25-30 y/o. I think that’s why we started extending childhood. Yes, I’m an American. And I figured there was a cultural difference between us. In my mind you were a child, so I’m sorry that happened to you; but I understand if you feel differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:30 PM
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I never said that men didn’t have their own burdens to bear; and that is the beauty of the modern age, is that we are free to determine for ourselves whether we will continue to follow gender roles or not. Men should be free to make this determination as well. (And I’m constantly frustrated with other modern Feminists for being more supportive of this.) I do save my money; however, there are certain services that require me to have a credit card (last time I flew anywhere, my exe’s mom had to bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:27 PM
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My apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 02:14 PM
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Not all psychiatrists are good at their job. It’s taken me years to find a good psychiatrist. They tried that “gifted” garbage with me. I was just mentally ill and needed medial assistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:20 PM
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And the majority of women were expected to get married and have children - or else they risked social consequences (such as being ostracized by family, friends, and their community). I’m going off of the lived experiences of elderly women I’ve spoken to in my community, and my own. I had to move out early and live in poverty to pursue my career goals. My father and my grandparents made it clear that to live with them (which would have afforded me time to save money and be more prepared to move o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:19 PM
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Yes you were. Teenagers are children - whether they want to admit that or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 12:32 PM
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Why is that relevant? She was a grown woman that attempted to initiate a sexual relationship with a 14 year old CHILD (per a later comment). Her looks are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:04 AM
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When I would have an episode in class, it’s not fair that my teachers reacted by punishing me and not offering to try and hear me out. But none of my teachers, working for a poorly funded rural with an entire classroom full of kids, had the training, resources or time to deal with a mentally disturbed little girl. I needed to be heard by someone that could provide the help that I needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:39 PM
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But why do you think he was being “silenced”? Was she so wrong for disengaging when it became clear that he might need a professional to hear instead of her?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:32 PM
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“…if someone’s “weirding you out,” doesn’t mean that their words aren’t to be heard and their advice is not sound.” I’m saying this as someone who suffers lifelong mental illness and as someone who works in an ER with a psych unit - where I meet people from all walks of life, with various mental health issues. If someone’s words come across as unhinged or weirds others out, it’s because those people may not be equipped (through formal training and education) to handle these people. I exhibited e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:08 PM
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“You don’t have a choice but to “support” the government. If you don’t pay your taxes you go to jail. BUT you CAN vote.” Exactly! I don’t understand why so many people don’t consider that there’s ways that influence the government and private sector to remove corruption from (once we’re made aware of it - it’s a part of life, and it’s our duty to deal with it we find it.) If private organization? Don’t give them your money. If government? Votes. And I don’t just mean the presidential election. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:06 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:24 PM
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In the US, to be perfectly honest, it depends who you’re asking (different socioeconomic classes, ages groups, and ideology in every state).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:23 PM
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I mostly see other women approaching it this way. I don’t see the appeal even though I’m a woman. When my female coworkers bring it up and try to push this stuff on me (on a slow day), I will “suddenly” find some work that needs my full attention while they talk about astrology amongst themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:11 AM
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Anecdotal evidence doesn’t prove the majority, but it’s not completely worthless. My father left because he “wanted to do better.” Usually if men or women are about their reasons for leaving, either they thought they could do better. That’s also been my experience when people I used to be friends with - both men and women. They thought they could do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:46 AM
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The statistic you cited is that 80% of women file for divorce. Generally, women are expected to handle clerical work in the family. My own father demanded a divorce and then moved in with his new girlfriend. But he refused to show up for file for the divorce, so my mom had file the paperwork and make the divorce that HE wanted happen for him. Anytime he had to sign paperwork or something, he would complain and cuss her out for “bothering him” when she’d call and ask if he come over. I remember w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:27 AM
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When there’s a new story about a female high school teacher raping a male student, I often hear older men, and sometimes older women, laugh it off as “every teen boy’s fantasy.” I think the problem is the general public doesn’t take female predators as seriously and under report them as a result. They view it with a “boys will be boys” perspective for some disturbing reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:51 AM
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Lathrop was the first name came up on Google - I’m not sure if it’s because was accepted AND practiced law that she’s favored. But had I delved further than a cursory glance, I would have realized that. Good catch! I can agree that the details show that it wasn’t impossible for women to achieve higher education, and there were women that found employment. However, there was still the social expectation for women to devote ourselves to our family. And the majority of society’s institutions wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:27 AM
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By the lawyer’s guild, I assume you mean the American Bar Association? Mary Florence Lathrop was actually rejected twice before she was accepted because of her sex. The first women to be granted a patent was Sybilla Righton Masters in 1715 - but it was granted in her husband’s name. You could come to the conclusion that s*****, powerful men developed patriarchal societies. This is the more reasonable and more likely conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 01:32 AM
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I think they weren’t being specific because it’s common knowledge that by “the past,” they were referring to any time period since the invention of agrarian lifestyles/societies and the modern era that, women weren’t allowed to focus on pursuits outside of the homestead/the family. I doubt most people are claiming that men are evil and that’s women had fewer rights up until the modern era. (I know there are misandrists that say that, but not the majority.) In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:39 AM
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Why do you think “In the past, women were not allowed to be educated or to work” is false?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 11:42 PM
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You are right. Women like me aren’t the majority. I’m a Feminist that finds myself constantly frustrated at the movement for lacking an important trait - self reflection and consideration for the different reasons we still face staunch disagreement from men. Too often we assume it’s misogyny - and while there are times that this is the case - I also think it’s because the movement hasn’t done enough to encourage women to acknowledge our own problematic privileges a modern patriarchal society, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:55 AM
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Maybe he wasn’t comfortable sharing the specifics with you? Maybe he shared what he was comfortable sharing? I often hear how it’s socially acceptable for us (women) to express our emotions as pathetically and/or hysterically - regardless of the severity of the problem (or lack there of, in your broken nail example). I see examples of it - mostly on social media and/or customers/patients at places I’ve worked - but I don’t match the “emotional women stereotype.” I’ve often heard men open up abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:09 AM
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Male lie: Interesting example when compared to the second. But I’ve found in these situations, if the feelings are mutual and noticeable, usually the two will start dating and the truth will come out. But if not reciprocated, he’s less likely to be honest. Female: Okay, I grew up in a poor, rural area where this has been rampant my generation. (People dating, having kids, breaking up and then there being a constant back and forth.) The women you’re describing have been a very small minority, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:56 AM
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What do you mean? I’m not disagreeing, I just want to understand what you mean by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:42 AM
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But I’ve experienced that behaviour from men, too. The refusal to be upfront when they’re caught in a lie? Or proven wrong? I experience that regularly from men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:32 AM
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Ah, that makes sense. I’m sorry - I was running on almost no sleep when I read that. Sadly, I have met people that actually think that, which is why I wasn’t sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:19 AM
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I will agree, as a woman, that men are held accountable more often for a lot of social issues than they should be. In my personal life, I make sure to call out other women (ex. Whenever my female coworkers say “all men are trash/men are stupid,” I’ll remind them not to throw stones at glass houses with examples of how trash women can be. Or my BF’s friend is married to a woman that’s been privileged and rich her entire life; she loves to talk about how horrible men are, how important feminism is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:18 AM
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I don’t understand why I see men often saying “what women say often contradicts their actions” as though this is exclusive to women. I see both men and women doing this in my everyday life - working with the general public, online, and in my personal life. This behaviour isn’t specific to one gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:57 PM
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“It’s when covering one’s expenses doesn’t rely on coercion, violence, or deception.” That was in your previous response. I assumed it meant you thought women were being deceptive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:25 PM
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That’s how it felt for me when I tried online dating. (F19 and again at 25). I got burned out fairly quickly from genuinely creepy men (the “send feet pic so I can worship your feet” kind of creepy, or older men clearly wanting to bang someone young enough to be their daughter or granddaughter).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:23 PM
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Why do you women were deceiving society when we pushed for the financial dependence?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:25 AM
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Ah, I missed that. My mistake. It can definitely be a pain the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:02 AM
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You can’t request to be seen by a male provider? Strange. Because in my experience you can tell the staff that you have a preference, and if there’s a provider available that matches your preference (that’s also accepting patients - in the case of a PCP), then the staff will try to accommodate you. However, the availability of a provider matching your needs and preferred sex depends on a lot of factors. You can’t DEMAND a male provider because a male provider may not be available (depends on fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:53 AM
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You mean that caretaker traits USED to be the primary traits valued in women. That is changing, and we will evolve socially and adapt to that change. Society doesn’t need people to reproduce as much as possible to propagate our species; with modern medicine and other technology, our species lives longer and needs to start focusing on quality over quantity. Our ability to incubate children is becoming less valuable than our ability to help our mates provide for those offspring. At the same time, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:41 PM
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You’re allowed to think that, and live your life playing mommy to your husband. Just like I’m allowed to disagree with you and pursue a grown man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:25 PM
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Not all women are caretakers. That doesn’t make them beneath the women who are. You mean YOU and women who obsess over outdated cultural norms don’t consider childless women adults. I’ve met plenty of mothers who respect their childless peers. Not all mothers refuse any and all social progress the way you do. I’m a gamer and I love anime. So is my boyfriend. That’s not a contribution to society. That’s not useful knowledge for the rest of society, it’s just fun. He needs to be of use like the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:19 PM
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If my BF wants me to be his mother, I won’t marry or procreate with him. I’m either marrying a grown man or adopting and staying single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:04 PM
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Not all women are natural caregivers - doesn’t make them less of woman than those who are. Just because some women don’t use their reproductive organs to procreate, doesn’t change the their anatomy. They experience literally every other aspect of being a woman - social pressures and other bodily functions specific to females. You’re allowed to think 18 years should marry and have families, I disagree. We live longer now and as a result we’re less prepared at that age to become parents than we we…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:02 PM
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No, our is not to take care of grown men. They’re adults and need to be self sufficient. Just like we need to be. I don’t have kids yet, however I want to have kids someday. That doesn’t change my goal of wanting to make them as self sufficient as possible before I die. Because that’s part of being a parent. We need them to be prepared for life after we’re dead, which means teaching them to be as self sufficient as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 11:54 AM
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I know married women, and some share your opinion, some don’t. My job isn’t to take care of a grown man. I expect him to be my equal. My kids will grow up someday, and if I’m good parent, they’ll be raised to be self sufficient adults that don’t need to be mommy around every day of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:09 AM
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Women don’t have to be caretakers to mature. We can contribute to society as mothers, through our career, or both. I never said the middle class was “too good” for marriage? Why do you think I’m saying that? I’m just saying, that I mostly see lower socioeconomic communities pumping out kids and getting married at 18 and being fine with it. Or maybe my married female friends with and without kids just judge others differently than you? I knew a few couples with 3-4 kids who are incredibly immatur…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:05 AM
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Sorry, not in my culture. How is an unmarried woman the same as a man that sits around playing video games all day? What if she provides value to her community some other way? That would make her more mature than the man sitting at home playing video games all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:30 AM
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“Growing up” means different things in different cultures. Some cultures that used to strictly see that as “getting married and having kids” have moved past that. Such as my culture. In the US, your socioeconomic status determines whether it’s OK to plan to get married and have a family at 18. (Example: This is still common in a lot of poorer communities.) Or maybe my married female friend’s values differ from yours? I’ve met plenty of immature married women with kids. So, I’ll have to disagree …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:25 AM
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Historically, yes, marriage was important in being considered an adult. But there are cultures that have moved past that. I’m sorry you can’t or don’t want accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:16 AM
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The ONLY women I know that treat their unmarried friends this way, are adhere to traditional cultural norms, obsessed with status symbols, or both. None of those women are counted among my married or unmarried female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:11 AM
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A range of mid - to late 20’s. A lot of these women expressed an interest in marriage in their early 20’s, and are now either in LTR’s or married. Married women only socialise with married women? Lol Tell that to my married female friends that still socialise with me and our unmarried female friends. Some of these married women are new mothers, and they still find time to socialise with us, and they never talk down to us or treat us like less mature than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:06 AM
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If he brings anything of value to the table, he won’t sit around playing video games all day. Usually the men sitting around, playing video games all day don’t bring much value to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:01 AM
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I’m in my 20’s, so these are YOUNG Liberal feminists openly admitting they want to get married, or ARE married. (These marriages are recent - within the past two or three years.) Marital status only matters to certain kinds of women. My married female friends don’t treat me or our unmarried female friends any different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:57 AM
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I mean, if he sits around playing video games all day, then I think the wife and family are better off without him. Not all people benefit from marriage. I think some people are better off pursuing LTR’s or STR’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:51 AM
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What are you talking about? Plenty of my Liberal, feminist friends have told me they want to get married (those friends are in LTR’s), or they ARE married. But the women that I’ve met that are OBSESSED with being proposed to, and base their opinions of other women on their marital status, are either Christians or vapid women that determine value using status symbols.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:47 AM
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I was born missing my thyroid, which is incredibly rare. (My Endo had only ever had one patient like me previously, so she asked me for evidence via ultrasound.) I only think that’s interesting because, whenever it comes up in relevant discussions at work, my coworkers are always shocked and ask more about it. Aside from that, I don’t think I’m particularly interesting; but my boyfriend thinks I’m interesting, so that’s enough for me. And I’m sure plenty of people find those “boring” Chad physic…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:12 AM
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If not for modern medicine, I would’ve died young. So, I’d say I’m good right where I’m at.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 08:48 PM
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It’s almost as if our cultures value women differently. The only women I’ve known that have obsessed over being proposed to come from Christian households and aspire to traditional family structures, or very vapid women that care more about obtaining status symbols (they generally make terrible wives and mothers).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 08:11 PM
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No, because obesity and lack of exercise increases the likelihood of disease and early death, lower mobility, etc. Basically a lower quality of life for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 08:06 PM
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I could understand helping him - but my boyfriend earned his degree, and I’m expected to do the same. I wouldn’t have it any other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 08:03 PM
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Yeah. This is also why I don’t trust that people just “didn’t know better back then” when they talk about girls being married off to grown men. Apparently my great-grandfather from a few generations back did. I doubt he was alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:54 PM
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Why were you handing in his coursework for him? Was he sick or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:52 PM
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A great-grandma (from a few generations back) married at 14. Her then 26 year old husband was quoted as saying “You have to marry young to raise ‘em right.” As a woman, I’m grateful that I was born much later.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:44 PM
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How small was his campus? The majority of people - men and women - are either average to unattractive to me, so it’s no surprise that he wasn’t bathing in hotties. But I’ve met a few female attorneys, and they ranged from average to hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:28 PM
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You don’t have to choose between having constant sex or celibacy. There’s a halfway point you’re overlooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:24 PM
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My grandparents met at college, and as far as I know, neither were sleeping around. Even if they did, they stayed together until my grandmother died from cancer when mom was in high school. Even though my grandfather remarried, my mom said he was never the same; he became depressed and his health declined until he died of heart problems eight years later. According to my mom’s stepmother, it’s because he missed my grandmother. She understood that and remained in my mom’s life until she died, too…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:01 PM
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I work around plenty of young, handsome physicians that would qualify as Chad’s. They’re very boring to me. Some are busy playing the field, some are married to women match them in at least looks and character, income, or a combination. The ones playing the field are immature and poor character.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:04 PM
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I’m not stupid enough to think it was only her personality. She was beautiful, even by modern standards, and she possessed excellent character. Looks and character combined elevated her above social class.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:00 PM
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Lol If that’s how they interpret it, then those men are fools that deserve what’s coming for them. Or if they value other aspects of a woman - her looks, her values, her actions and how she compliments the life he wants - instead of a flimsy hymen, they can vet for higher quality women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:59 PM
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If ambitious Dumpy Bob wants a good partner, he’ll be open to getting with ambitious Dumpy Becky. Same for Dumpy Becky.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:54 PM
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My grandfather didn’t pick a stripper/hoe, so I’m inclined to believe that if you raise them with common sense, they’ll realise they should choose women with high quality personalities regardless of socioeconomic class.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:53 PM
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Oh they absolutely do have options. If a man is willing to ignore basic biology for some meaningless, easily broken hymen, then the ignorant fool doesn’t deserve these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:51 PM
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Actually, chances are they’re telling the truth. Because it’s very common with athletic women/girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:48 PM
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Usually college guys that are bored and sexless just aren’t attractive themselves and/or went to college for the wrong reasons. Men and women with ambition in lucrative fields should go to college. No guarantee they’ll get laid, but if they’re at least average in looks and personality at a minimum, they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:42 PM
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Men shouldn’t marry athletic women that have kept in shape and are more likely to be attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:40 PM
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If my grandmother had been a stripper or a hoe, it wouldn’t have worked out well for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:38 PM
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Lol I work in an ER, and this kind of injury is common in athletic girls. I literally see this in my everyday life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:10 PM
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Except my grandmother was beloved and accepted as a member of the family. In the beginning, I’m sure they viewed it that way - but even after her death, she continued to be a valued member of my grandfather’s side of the family. Point is, they gave her a chance and accepted her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:08 PM
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Yes, you can. This typically happens to female athletes in gymnastics and horseback riding. Especially if there’s an accident and trauma to that region - which happens all the time in those sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:59 PM
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You’re aware that a women’s/girl’s hymen can break through participating in athletic sports, right? It happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:42 PM
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I can’t comment on your country, but the “virgin brides with dowries” wasn’t the norm in America by the 20th century. Upper class American women might have come with the dowry, but that’s it. Shotgun weddings existed for a reason for the average working American.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:40 PM
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I mean, sure, that was the case when my grandparents were young (both born in the 30’s). But my rich grandfather eloped with his impoverished GF (my future grandmother), and once they both finished school several months later, they broke the news to his disapproving parents. His parents were so opposed to divorce that they gave my grandmother a chance, and decided they loved her and welcomed her into the family. She considered very beautiful for the time period, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:32 PM
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If you’re going to college because you were told it’ll be fun, then you’re going for the wrong reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:14 PM
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None of my cousins grew up listening to “oh woe is you, you can’t be a real man because you don’t have a daddy” like my dad and his sister did. Instead, their mother did her best to be two parents in one for three kids, and all of them - my male cousins included - turned out great. This belief that “boys need their daddy” had a very toxic outcome on my dad’s mental health, which made him a horribly abusive parent and husband. There were people around my dad that could have stepped up, but they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:00 PM
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Not having a father puts their daughters at a disadvantage, too. My female cousin was most affected by her father being absent; while she’s moved on with her life, I can still tell she was hurt the most by his absence. My dad tried to use “I didn’t have a daddy” as excuse for his abusive behavior toward us. Turns out, my aunt revealed later that the adults around them - including their male relatives - would cry “the poor boy can’t blah blah because he doesn’t have a daddy.” None of them cared h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 12:51 PM
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Yes, a single mother is just as capable of teaching morals, good values and valuable/important skills to her son as a two parent household. My aunt did just that for her two sons and daughter on her own. Her kids turned out healthier mentally and better prepared for life than my sister and I; being raised in a dysfunctional two-parent household did more harm than good to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 12:50 AM
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Same. I played a lot of PS2, and trips to the local GameStop always took longer than they should because my sister and I would be sifting through rows of crap to find something that looked decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 09:07 PM
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I’m a college student, so a lot of things are too expensive for me right now Lol. (Aspiring nursing student.) I was born in the early 90’s, and my mom got me into video games when I was about 3 years old. (We had PC games, PS1, Gameboy, and we rented our Nintendo periodically). So, learning about the cost during my GameCube/PS2 days blew my mind. Still, it feels more expensive now - probably because of micro transactions and DLC, etc. being added on. I do remember there being a lot more shovelwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 09:01 PM
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That’s fair. I see some benefits to the newer methods, however, there’s a lot about the simplicity of older games that I miss, too. I often feel priced out of my favourite hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:45 PM
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Manga isn’t for very everyone. I got into when I was in 3rd grade, and even then, not all of my peers stayed with it. Have you considered that you’re experiencing depression? Since your enjoyment in your interests/hobbies has waned so dramatically? I suffer from Intermittent Episodes of Depression, and when I’m in an episode, I lose interest in everything and everyone around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:46 PM
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You’d be surprised. I can’t stand reality TV shows (however, I will say that another commenter described my relationship with this sub perfectly by comparing it to 90 Day Fiancé, a show I couldn’t stand). Thankfully, my friends and my BF aren’t interested in that “reality TV” garbage. By BF mostly watches and/listens to Podcosts, reads manga and plays video games like me. Our friends do mostly the same things in group settings, except they find surreal and ridiculous YouTube videos instead of lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:15 AM
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My older sister can barely function socially because of our father. She has to work from home (even before the pandemic) just to hold a job, and live with our mother. She recently came out and told me that she diss the want to have kids because she wouldn’t be able to provide them, financially or emotionally. I’d say that she’s self aware enough to know that she doesn’t want kids. No one needs to have kids to know for sure. I appreciate that my existence makes you happy. However, it doesn’t chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 08:48 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 08:36 PM
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What if some people don’t want kids because they know they wouldn’t be good parents? That doesn’t make them immature or narcissistic. Some people shouldn’t be parents (my dad, for example; my dad, for example, is a genuine narcissist and he never should have had kids).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:05 PM
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What if she doesn’t want kids because of major, hereditary health issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:25 PM
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What about my retirement? I’m not going to wait until I’m middle to go to college for 4 or more years, and THEN start my career and saving for retirement. It’s very possible for both parents to have careers and give birth to healthy children in their 30’s because of modern medical technology. But it requires both parents to have lucrative careers and a good social network.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:06 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 12:53 AM
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Why? What’s wrong with focusing on our career early and then starting a family later once we’re established? (So having kids in our early 30’s.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 11:33 PM
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Why is that a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 10:22 PM
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No, I did not say that. I can’t prove what I do in my personal life to you. I gave an example of positive masculine behavior, and apparently it wasn’t good enough you. I don’t blame all men and masculinity for everything bad. I don’t promote anti-male politics either. But you clearly aren’t interested in having a conversation with me; you want to make accusations and hold me responsible for every terrible said and done by horrible people that are also feminists. Good luck out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:47 AM
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I have never said that all bad behavior is considered masculine; I said that we need to define “toxic masculinity” as negative social norms for men in society, and define “healthy masculinity.” I do hold women in my personal life accountable. I call them out for the terrible things they say and do - even other feminists. If my example wasn’t good enough, then what kind of example are you looking for? Being a feminist doesn’t mean I hate men. There are feminists that do hate men, those feminists …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:20 AM
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Well, if that is the original meaning then I’m all for giving the term a new meaning that does not attack masculinity as a whole. Women are not infallible - we’re just as mediocre as men are. Example of Healthy Masculinity: Men are more direct in social situations; generally you know where they stand on subjects, which makes for clearer communication. When did I say I hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 02:04 AM
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Same. If anything, I see fewer divorced older men getting remarried than divorced older women. I doubt it’s from a lack of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 12:43 AM
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Ah. I don’t know much about them. I only know that the sect exists. I’m sorry guys went through that, but congrats on getting through it through it!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 12:27 AM
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But do you understand why not having a clearly defined system to select a successor and 20 to 30 sons destabilized the Sultan’s rule more than just, per your example, hedonism?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 12:22 AM
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Generally, legitimate historical documents try to tell history as neutrally as possible, so you’re not likely to see moral explanations in history books.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 10:57 PM
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Lol Yay for happy endings! Also, I’m curious about that monogamous cult. Were they a sect of Christianity? If so, which sect? Or were they something completely different?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 10:27 PM
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On average, menopause occurs between 45 and 55 years old. Because of modern medicine, giving birth to healthy children is more accessible to women in our 30’s and early 40’s, we’re more parents in those age groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:53 PM
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If you disagree with the historical “narrative,” then what do you think was the real reason the Sultan was ruined? And why do you think this over historical accounts?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:42 PM
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What is an over-the-wall women? A women that’s hit menopause or are they still fertile?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:32 PM
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Can you link your source? Because, anecdotally, divorced older women have an easier time remarrying than their ex-husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:29 PM
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I don’t know about that. I live in rural area; the population on average is poorly educated, and there’s a lot of drug abuse, poverty, and unemployment. But most of the divorced older women I know have already remarried, and the few that didn’t was by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:26 PM
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Literally almost every divorced older woman I know is remarried. Only a few of them haven’t remarried, but that’s by choice. The ones that remarried generally remarried 1-2 years after their divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:21 PM
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Why? I’m sorry if my comment offended you at all. But I don’t understand it’s importance, and a lifetime of people trying to force it on me has made me resent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:35 PM
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Why do you think my interpretation of the term is wrong? Toxic femininity does exist, actually. I’m a feminist and even I can see it. Healthy masculinity does exist. Why do you think it doesn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:32 PM
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Can you explain why I’m wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:18 AM
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Sure, that’s what we’re taught. However, in reality, it’s not uncommon for people to maintain eye contact if they’re good liars. As for avoiding eye contact, people have different reasons for. Sometimes it’s dishonesty; it’s a common sign of someone who’s been abused; sometimes it means they’re uncomfortable with some aspect of the situation. Again, generalizations aren’t useful in real social situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:41 AM
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Well, I’m in one. But if you’re looking for something else then I wish you luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:28 AM
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How does my example support your belief?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:26 AM
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And that’s why I didn’t use Tinder, nor would I recommend it if you’re looking for a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:34 AM
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It’s not if you focus on the point of the example, and that is generalizations aren’t effective methods of developing social skills. Even within our own country, broad generalizations aren’t helpful while interacting with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:33 AM
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Then they aren’t worth your time. You deserve someone that wants to share your lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:27 AM
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How is that an exception? It’s an example of how generalizations are unwise because of cultural differences, and then I gave an example of two cultures that viewed eye contact differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 12:30 AM
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“Our masculinity is the foundation by which our very existence rests on…” Why? Both men and women are prone to this, and I have never understood it. I have never valued my femininity as anything more than as physical attributes (no different than my eye color). Anytime my family tried to make my femininity the foundation of my identity (and my role in society), I rejected them. Why do you and so many people value something so irrelevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 12:16 AM
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Okay, I see the point you’re making. I’m a woman, but I struggle with articulating my emotions and connecting with others emotionally. These are things I’ve learned (from my male and female friends, and my BF): There’s nothing wrong with opening up - except for when those conversations consume your relationship/friendship. If you have personal issues you need to work through, you need a good support network (opening up to friends/partners), and professional that can help you work through those p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:48 PM
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I can see your point - even if the purpose of the phrase “toxic masculinity” is meant to call out negative behavior commonly accepted by society, it’s easy to misconstrue the phrase as an attack on men for various reasons. IMO not enough emphasis is put on “healthy masculinity”; the spotlight is always on “toxic masculinity,” and focusing on only the negative and not the positive (or vice versa) is damaging to the overall message/intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:33 PM
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Of course you can - as long as you hold yourself to the same standards and don’t let yourself go.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:14 PM
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Technically I would. But I would lose the trust and respect of coworkers, which would negatively impact working together effectively. It doesn’t take long after that for people to leave on their own. On the Harvard Professor: Was it the “Comfort Women” guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:59 PM
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But that’s my point: Looking someone in the eyes while talking is not advisable for every social situation - it can be received negatively by people with mental health issues or by different cultures. For example: In American culture, we’re taught to look someone in the eye to signal honesty, whereas refusing to meet someone’s gaze makes you seem dishonest or weak. In Japan, you’re expected not to make direct eye contact with people above you. They even teach school children to direct their gaze…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:53 PM
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Why do we need to make generalizations to learn social skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:28 PM
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Yes, I have a job with a corporate culture, and that’s how I know that your example isn’t the norm. If I hung a sign disparaging toxic masculinity, I would lose a lot of respect from my coworkers. I work in an ER, and if you want to survive in that environment, you learn to put patient care above all else - especially your personal politics and values. This is why, even though I’m a Liberal Feminist, I can get along and work so well with my staunch Conservative coworkers: Because we know our per…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:25 PM
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I never said that you can’t learn social skills that will help you with dating. The problem is when those skills come with misleading “truths” and attributes some negative behaviour to an entire sex. To honest, I applaud TRP for encouraging men to learn to live their life for themselves and not women/a romantic partner; for encouraging men to take better care of their health, both mental and physical; and for encouraging them to set their own direction in life by making goals. Men need that kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:05 PM
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Ouch. My first boyfriend (I was a 19 y/o virgin; he was 25 y/o with a lot of experience) had undiagnosed BDP for the entire five years we were together. (His parents told me about his diagnosis shortly after we broke up.) Its been three years and I’m still recovering from that relationship. I feel your pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:39 PM
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I agree. However, I’ve learned that any ideology that “explains” human behaviour with blanket generalisations aren’t the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:17 PM
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What do you mean you say “men and women are equal” is woke garbage?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:15 PM
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“You can go into society’s core institutions (political or academic, for example, but also corporate) and talk about “toxic masculinity” - an unflattering characterisation of men. You’ll be met with thunderous applause and assured that you’re stunning and brave.” How often does this actually happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:13 PM
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The problem with your “connecting the dots,” is that the human brain is pattern seeking. And when we find a “pattern” (or explanation) that appeals to us, it’s easy to think we’ve found the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:05 PM
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Actually, I don’t know if life’s joys are worth it. I’m alive because I hope someday I’ll know what that. More often than not, though, I just feel hollow and like I’m in pain all the time. I still don’t know if my life is worth living. I guess I disagree with you because I don’t see death as a punishment all the time. It can be release.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:00 PM
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If you force children of people like that, many will do the bare minimum and spend their child’s lashing out at them in resentment. That usually causes severe trauma that will be passed on to the next generation, and so on. I’m saying this as someone from a long line of abusive parents. If my grandmother and other unfit mothers like her were free to abort my dad, two generations of trauma could have been avoided. I know people can recover and break the cycle, like my dad’s sister did. But experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:19 AM
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No, I wouldn’t prefer to “off” them. I would prefer to make the system better. But at this rate, I don’t see that happening soon. So why should we ban abortion and force women to give birth to unwanted children?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:44 AM
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She only said that she expects the father to be just as involved in childcare and housework as the mother. Everyone has an ideology that affects their decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:54 AM
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How are men better at discipline?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:16 PM
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No, because forcing people to raise a child they don’t want increases the chances of that child being abused and not cared for properly. If we had an effective foster care system, then maybe. But as it stands, it’s common for those kids to be sexually abused for their caregivers, or to go to well meaning foster parents that don’t have the training to handle kids living with trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:16 PM
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Why does it matter whether the mother or father disciplines the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:04 PM
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What did she say that was so wrong? She only wants father to procreate and be present to help raise kids outside of monetary provision. What’s wrong that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:53 PM
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I’m sorry, but a working brain does not justify giving birth to a sickly child that will have a short and sickly life just because aborting them will cause me mental and emotional distress. Death is not only a punishment- it can be used to end suffering. I was born missing an organ, and yet I can thrive because I’ve been on medication to supplant the organ since I was a newborn. You can’t do that for all birth defects, and intentionally giving birth to people that can’t thrive even with medical …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:40 PM
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No, I got that. Why are you calling her a sheep? That’s what I’m asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:57 PM
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Having a functional brain doesn’t mean the child is viable. The child could have inherited diseases that would lead to a shorter and sickly life. How can you justify bringing that child into the world to endure that? Terminating the pregnancy is kinder, no matter how much it hurts to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:56 PM
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Not going to lie, the meaning of this comment went over my head. What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:33 PM
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Have you considered that “replacement level” is subject to change overtime? For example, if there was a baby boom worldwide that drastically increased populations to exceed their country’s resources, maintaining that population by reproducing enough to replace them would have detrimental effects in the long-term. It’s not sustainable. I think that reproducing under replacement level right now is society course correcting to make the population more manageable and thus sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:07 PM
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What do you mean when you’re saying that people are being selfish?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:37 PM
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They said that they’ve never KNOWN of a woman doing that, not that they’ve never HEARD of it. Frankly, I haven’t known any women that have done that (that I’m aware of). The women that I know either got into relationships with their casual sex partners, or they’ve had relationships of varying lengths and only had sex with those partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 08:27 AM
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Generally when relatives commit incest, there’s usually a pre-existing history of it in the family. The first experience with incest is usually an older relative taking advantage of a very young child. There’s other ways it happens, but the above is the most common. It’s very sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 06:44 PM
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First, I think it’s important to consider these modern examples of expanding women’s rights: marital rape wasn’t outlawed until 1993. Women couldn’t open our own credit card unless our husband gave us permission until 1974. So, in the 1960’s, we’re talking about a society in which it’s still perfectly acceptable for men to run women’s lives and even subject women to sexual mistreatment. (I imagine that only minor levels of abuse was acceptable in public; severe abuse was still kept behind closed…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 06:41 PM
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