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| 17 | How do you deal with your insane envy of promiscuous people?Most people lie about their sexual experiences, either about how many they had or how rewarding they were in terms of pleasure or intimacy. People who talk a lot about their sexual past are often hiding some facts about it. And whatever that sexual past has been, it's forgotten and buried, at least in my experience. Even the most wonderful sexual experiences are just a very dim memory and it's absolutely impossible to recall them. I think in life the best attitude is just to accept the cards one… | /r/ExRedPill | 21/10/24 01:40 PM |
| 0 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?I don't know what your degree is, but you certainly don't understand biological evolution or cultural history. Are you suggesting that anything has changed in the genome of Northern Europeans recently for them to massively abandon religion and create one of the most prosperous societies on Earth? That's completely ludicrous, no significant changes have been experienced by the human genome since Prehistoric times, other than some minor ones to the genes coding for hemoglobin in populations living… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 07:48 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?That makes absolutely no sense and is one of the most stupid things I've read here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 07:40 AM |
| 1 | men have 100% control in whether or not a woman gets pregnant, overturning roe v wade gets rid of any responsibility a man has in these situationsYes, you're right and I'll be deleting my initial comment just in case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseWell, do whatever suits you best and good luck with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinWho's weakening men and asking them to work less? When somebody starts insulting the person they're talking to, the only thing they're proving is their weakness and total lack of arguments to move forward. This, from a highly successful woman who has always earned much more than any man in my family or any of my romantic partners. But I guess one's own beliefs, like in your case ("men are biologically designed for making money", "a woman who doesn't accept my point of view") limit very much the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 12:23 AM |
| 0 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?About your first point, that's only true among highly conservative women and men. Women can and do take the initiative very often when they're not brainwashed into thinking they cannot. Irrationally cannot be invoked to justify prejudice. Because it's irrational, it's against logic and thus not a behavior that should be accepted as the norm. Birth control has allowed for women for the first time in history to be the protagonists of their own emotional and sexual lives. If some men cannot/won't c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 12:17 AM |
| 2 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinThere are a huge number of men who are not successful, so clearly there's nothing biological about it. There are no "natural roles" other than the fact that women give birth to children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 12:10 AM |
| 0 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?And an experienced woman can do the same with no need of judgement of jealousy from people like you. My level of jealousy in this regard by the way is zero. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 12:07 AM |
| 3 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinThose are a tiny minority of men, who probably have women behind them providing them with all kinds of things without which they wouldn't be that successful. Since the overwhelming majority of men are not successful financially, it's very incorrect to say "men are biologically designed to be better at making money". It's rather "some human beings are better than others at making money, and if they are men, the road ahead of them will be easier". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Not sure in what exactly we're agreeing... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:45 PM |
| 3 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinThe only advantage men have is that other men will give them more chances. Women make less because they typically need to take time out of their career to have children and look after them. If men helped in exactly the same amount of time in these tasks, there would be no difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:44 PM |
| 0 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinI already said that post was very absurd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?It is a highly misogynistic preference that sets a double standard for men and women, considers men that have had sex previously as "experienced" whereas for women it gives them the label of "damaged" or "used". Having animalistic traits is something civilization tries to transcend and is no justification for any behavior. You could try to justify attacking somebody in the street because they looked at your girlfriend and you were feeling "territorial", no police officer or judge will accept tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?You're really annoying... Yes, everything we do comes from biology because we're biological beings, there's nothing other than biology in a human being from the point of view of Science. But biology and evolution are different things. Evolution is the selection of favorable traits that have appeared through random mutation and which confer advantages in survival and reproduction to certain individuals so that their frequency increases over generations in a population. Now, if you want to know mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:33 PM |
| 16 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinHe's also saying that women who are not "truly beautiful" get what they deserve, being used only for sex. He might add a bit posts later that women are shallow because they only "want Chad". Sighs.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:26 PM |
| 3 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinI think she meant "most men". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:23 PM |
| 2 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinThere are many women who uproot their lives to follow their husbands abroad. I found that post ridiculous however, because it was a very exaggerated reaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:22 PM |
| 8 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coin"Biologically designed to be better at making money" ???? What's in the male body that's better at making money? The penis, the testicles, the Y chromosome! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:19 PM |
| 5 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinWell, they are very different things and having a lot of one doesn't mean you have it easy to get the other. It's like somebody who's lonely and gets no phone calls or texts from friends envying another person because they get lots of commercial calls or spam. Besides, being subject from an early age to so much unwanted attention makes us develop a tendency to discard such advances that might mean rejecting people who would make good parents. As the French say, throwing away the child with the b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?As in not forcing anyone to do anything against their will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Great post!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:04 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?To be honest, any experienced woman would totally disregard a man who is so shallow and misogynistic as to only want virgins. That type of man is probably a very bad lover who is afraid of competition with other men, might have issues about his body or his penis, a very backward and old fashioned view of women and relationships, a faulty idea about women's anatomy, etc. Nothing attractive there. There's plenty of sexually and emotionally enlightened men to choose from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:00 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?"Used by other men". Another misogynistic term for my anthology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Read what I posted above: "Any choice is legitimate as long as it respects the freedom of both parties involved." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?I do try to answer to what you post, but it seems you don't like my answers. As for the second part, I never said I'm "smart or cool headed", just a scientist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 06:37 PM |
| 1 | What do you think will happen with the dating market during this upcoming recession?Great, I'll definitely read that. It's a subject that really interests me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 06:32 PM |
| 2 | What do you think will happen with the dating market during this upcoming recession?Ok, I was a bit puzzled by the mention of Fermi in this context. Reading that I realize one of my tutors in my Astrobiology class used that "great filter" idea for us to suggest ways to calculate the odds of the different steps of the Drake equation. Love that one of the scientists mentioned in that article is Seth Shostak, of the SETI institute, I really like him very much and have probably learned from his podcast (together with Molly Bentley), "Big picture science" as much as in college. Than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 06:29 PM |
| 1 | men have 100% control in whether or not a woman gets pregnant, overturning roe v wade gets rid of any responsibility a man has in these situationsWell, yes, it can happen, but it's not the most common occurrence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseI get the impression from what you write that some bad experiences have left you a bit traumatized and are overthinking what might or not might happen in the future. Of course, you don't need to choose to share your life with somebody whose behavior you don't approve of, but I think inexperienced men would make a mistake totally rejecting moderately experienced women just because of some vague ideas of being exploited. Things have changed very much, and the opposite situation (experienced man wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 06:15 PM |
| 4 | What do you think will happen with the dating market during this upcoming recession?About the taxes, it's already happening in Europe. I'm not sure about the US because as you say politics rely heavily on donors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 06:07 PM |
| 1 | What do you think will happen with the dating market during this upcoming recession???? Fermi's paradox is about why we haven't made contact yet with extraterrestrial civilizations if they're supposed to be that ubiquitous... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:27 PM |
| 15 | What do you think will happen with the dating market during this upcoming recession?Yes, it's a disgusting post in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:25 PM |
| 17 | What do you think will happen with the dating market during this upcoming recession?A lot of very sexist, demeaning language in that post, but anyhow... The final sentence clearly describes the lack of empathy and general ideology of the person posting. In countries/US states with a decent welfare state, I hope the worst of the crisis will be solved by the intervention of authorities and increased taxation of the very wealthy and large corporations who've been avoiding taxes for years. Since women in general can do very well without men and tend to have solidarity with each oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseYour are totally entitled to prefer whatever you want. I think though there's a huge difference between a woman with some sexual experience and the kind of behavior you describe which seems really disturbed and which at least in my case I've almost never encountered. I only knew one woman who would do those things, and she had a severe problem with alcohol too that totally clouded her decisions. The rest of us had occasionally sexual encounters for a reason or another (maybe because we felt lone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:24 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?I'm a woman so that doesn't apply to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Not sure how the concept of settling applies here. Any choice is legitimate as long as it respects the freedom of both parties involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseNot sure how this relates to this conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:40 PM |
| 8 | Men do not value youth more than women due to biology, they just used to have the privilege of choosing partners based on looksWow, that's so disgusting. "Ancient caves" indeed when talking about a 30 something woman... As if young men weren't spreading STDs too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:38 PM |
| 11 | Men do not value youth more than women due to biology, they just used to have the privilege of choosing partners based on looksWomen's sexuality peaks much later, and body issues which younger women might have slowly dissolve over the years so yes, they are excellent sexual partners and much better at conversation too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:36 PM |
| 2 | Men do not value youth more than women due to biology, they just used to have the privilege of choosing partners based on looksIt totally depends on the woman's financial status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:34 PM |
| 2 | Men do not value youth more than women due to biology, they just used to have the privilege of choosing partners based on looksI'm 100% sure that the quality of a relationship, in and out of bed, has very little to do with the degree of attractiveness of the partners, and much more on personality characteristics. Although of course there are nice attractive people, a more average one must probably have had to work harder on their interpersonal skills and will have more chances to be a better partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:33 PM |
| 5 | Men do not value youth more than women due to biology, they just used to have the privilege of choosing partners based on looksNice post, although I don't think beauty and genetic fitness are equivalent. I think nowadays the preference of men towards younger women has also a lot to do with male insecurities (besides the evident fertility thing, which by the way plays no role in relationships which are not geared towards breeding). Younger women are probably considered lower risk in terms of previous partners, so less prone to compare and require better treatment in and out of bed; more "coachable", less feministic, more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:30 PM |
| 1 | What is masculinity?Absolutely! | /r/ExRedPill | 17/07/22 12:22 PM |
| 1 | What is masculinity?Fair enough. | /r/ExRedPill | 17/07/22 12:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:21 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Yes. I think that's not necessarily true. In my case and in the case most of my friends, a man just about our own level of experience and success is the best choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:21 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Probably. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:19 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Do as you think it's best for you but don't generalize. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:19 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Or not, as proved by the very negative experiences of many people here and elsewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Casual sex does exist so your first paragraph doesn't make much sense. Since love is very much not worthless, it takes much more time and attention to develop, hence the waiting and the careful observation of the characteristics of the other person. Sex blurs the possibility of careful, unbiased analysis, so this is a very good strategy. One by the way that has been practiced with men for centuries, who would sleep with prostitutes or "loose women" without giving it a second thought, but would t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:12 PM |
| 1 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Well, I guess it depends on the kind of situation, the personality of the woman, what the man has let her understand about his own lack of experience etc. Although I don't think I've ever been with a man that were a virgin, I've been with men whose sexual behavior was very elementary (they were divorced men who had married very young and as virgins, to virgin women) and it was certainly fun and exciting to help them improve their technique and attitude, and of course it was for my benefit too. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:11 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?That's true, except the bit about always remembering your first. Me and many other women in here have posted how irrelevant, unsatisfactory and forgettable our first was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:07 PM |
| 1 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseThere's a wide margin between "fooling around a lot" and being a virgin. I think in sex and love, as in any other aspect of life, a reasonable level of expertise enhances the experience and reduces performance anxiety. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:05 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Assuming that were true, what is demeaning about that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?It's very difficult to debate with you so this will be my last post. You throw around a lot of words without really knowing what they mean, are dismissive of the otter person's knowledge and training, have an aggressive stance, etc. Culture definitely does not stem from evolution. Human evolution pretty much was complete in prehistoric times, our genome and biology is the same as that of people living in caves in pre agriculture societies. Yet, huge social and cultural changes can and do happen … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:01 PM |
| 1 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseCallMeJess, don't feed this troll. He seems a person unable to have a civilized discussion, and the "have a nice day", which I've also got several times, is very passive aggressive. I really enjoyed reading your posts though, I think your experience in incredibly interesting since you have a much wider perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:30 AM |
| 1 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseWhy are your been so disgusting towards this person who's trying to have a nuanced exchange of points of views with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:26 AM |
| 0 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseReally enjoying reading your posts, plus your experience is so incredibly valuable in the context of this group! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:25 AM |
| 0 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Not in my team though. Nice day to you too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:18 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?That's your point of view. There's nothing written in stone about how to do things. A first time with somebody experienced, guiding you, making sure you're relaxed and enjoying it, can be a wonderful thing, whether you're a man or a woman. An awkward first time with somebody as awkward as yourself, where nobody is at ease or enjoying it, can be a huge drawback for future times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:17 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?A very special type of women who are as unpleasant as the men who do this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:14 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Agree, that's why it's not at all pleasant. I really wouldn't recommend any virgin + virgin scenario anyways, unless it's two people that are in love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:12 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?No, you don't make the rules and luckily most men and women of good faith don't follow those rules either, find them ridiculous, and don't go around slut shaming anyone or using the word slut. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:11 AM |
| 13 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?It's just ego. Maybe nothing wrong, but nothing too positive either. If a man chooses a women he doesn't entirely like but is a virgin over another he likes best but isn't just because "he wants to be the first", it's a bit pathetic to be honest. Besides, why do you want to be the first? I can't imagine any convincing reasons outside of the virgin + virgin scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:08 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Well, good sex can be a very refined art and the mechanical part is just the elementary level in the learning of that art. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:03 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?If the not being the same means women are blamed and slut shamed for having the same kind of experiences men do during their youth, then it's a very unfair rule that should change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:02 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?You'll be much more relaxed, specially if you experiment on your own enough before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:00 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Nobody needs to know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:56 PM |
| 10 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Do hide it. I didn't tell anyone about my V and my first guy had no clue. I had enough experience from various things to not seem inexperienced. I wasn't interested in being fetishized or coached or anything like that. And I've never revealed anything about my sexual past to any man. It felt much more comfortable and devoid of stress that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:55 PM |
| -1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?However, that is very true and logic. With a man you really don't care about and won't be interested to continue seeing, a night of sex might be something enjoyable and without consequences. With a man you have some hints he might be somebody you'll like to spend a significant amount of time with and maybe fall in love with, it's logical to wait a bit and observe what kind of person he is and whether he really would be adequate for a LTR. A good analogy would be the difference between a hotel ro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:52 PM |
| 9 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?I certainly hope and wish so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:45 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Maybe not the women you've been with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:44 PM |
| 10 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Where are those value escales? What are the equivalent values for men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:44 PM |
| 7 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Are you planning to get the virgin pregnant? Tests for STDs and paternity have been around for a long time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:42 PM |
| 35 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?I don't get angry at the choice itself, rather at the reasons given to justify that choice, which are often quite disgusting. Like wanting to mold a woman, coach her, be the first, rob her of her "innocence", being easier to make her accept a submissive role, etc. The words used in this context, like the famous drink can comparison, or the comments about vaginal stretching are repulsive. Also, when it's men with a long sexual experience that express those choices, the double standard is really n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:33 PM |
| 3 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?Those are all posts from last week, when I first started reading it, I guess it must be relatively easy to find them. I do agree that the women there seem much more articulate and polite, they're also probably older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:30 PM |
| 2 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)Well, the way you wrote your sentence certainly seems to imply it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:28 PM |
| 3 | men have 100% control in whether or not a woman gets pregnant, overturning roe v wade gets rid of any responsibility a man has in these situationsYou were saying women can control where sperm goes, I was just pointing at how difficult it might be, for example when the man removes the condom without the woman noticing, aka stealthing, apparently something many women have experienced. Totally relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:27 PM |
| 2 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?I should have written "the gospels", not "the New Testament'. I stand corrected. For me, whatever Paul wrote has no interest; somebody from another country, not having met Jesus at all, and appropriating his message. I'm no longer a believer, but if I were, my only source would be the gospels, even though they were also written much later than the facts they describe and by people who weren't there. But at least there might be a shadow of truth in them. And Jesus definitely never says anything a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:24 PM |
| 2 | men have 100% control in whether or not a woman gets pregnant, overturning roe v wade gets rid of any responsibility a man has in these situationsGoogle "stealthing" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 10:01 PM |
| 2 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)I would also break with a woman friend if she did that to me, a woman. It's a question of loyalty, not gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:52 PM |
| 1 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)Women are the ones saying we don't want that!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:50 PM |
| 1 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)Most women in this thread have said we don't need or want the protection of a man. Where's the misandry or the wanting to push men towards sacrificing themselves? It's some men who are saying you need to do it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:49 PM |
| 0 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?No hill whatsoever, but it's worrying you're giving that kind of advice to a girl who's just starting her sexual life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:29 PM |
| 1 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Freak, definition: "a person, animal, or plant with an unusual physical abnormality. "a few freaks have been discovered, one amazing cat tipping the scales at no less than 43 lbs" Similar: aberration abnormality irregularity oddity monster monstrosity malformation mutant freak of nature verb 1. INFORMAL behave or cause to behave in a wild and irrational way, typically because of the effects of extreme emotion or drugs." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:28 PM |
| 0 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Why do you think that being a freak means being confident? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:26 PM |
| 2 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Ego trips have nothing to do with sex, they're about power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:25 PM |
| 3 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Common sense is not enough to accuse people of lying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:24 PM |
| 1 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?What does being a "freak" has to do with enjoying sex? Please enlighten me..I might have been missing something all these years of enjoying sex without being "slowly turned into a freak" by a man... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 08:34 PM |
| 2 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Show us the online lie detector please! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 08:32 PM |
| 2 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Great post! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 08:31 PM |
| 3 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Don't listen to these men, please. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 08:29 PM |
| 5 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?You write a man might teach the woman, but just skip the possibility of the woman teaching the man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 08:26 PM |
| 5 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Wonderful, intelligent, mature post in a thread that really has otherwise reached a record of nonsense. 👏👏👏 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 08:25 PM |
| 1 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?OMG. "A woman a man can slowly turn into a freak is sexy".... Really, my idea of the anthology of misogyny is gaining momentum... Young inexperienced woman: under no circumstances let yourself be turned into a "freak. Slowly or otherwise | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 08:21 PM |
| 3 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience???? All of them? Or something like a tiny tiny minority of them. Or maybe you've been watching Pretty Woman too many times.... Most of the clients of sex workers are indifferent or even in some cases aggressive and demeaning to them. Not a lot of oxytocin doing its magic in there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 08:18 PM |
| 2 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience????? That really makes no sense whatsoever. I take no favors from men, beta or otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?Wow, what a word salad with absolutely no idea of how evolution works... Evolution doesn't "kill off" anyone. Evolution confers certain survival advantages to certain genotypes which have appeared spontaneously through random mutation. Those individuals will have more success in survival and reproducing, and their numbers will gradually increase over generations. Absolutely nothing to do with religion. Although we could take into account the fact that major religion have been targeting and killi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 07:55 PM |
| 3 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?I'm sooo tired to read posts by very illiterate men who demean women and assume everyone is American and has the same very low academical credentials they have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 07:45 PM |
| 6 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Releasing oxytocin and falling in love are two very different things. Ask any sex worker if their customers "fall in love" with them. Or if they do. Mothers don't "fall in love" with they children. They might bond or not with them, a lot of mothers have great difficulty and guilt from not being able to bond. Have you fallen in love with everyone you slept with? Does a sex worker fall in love with everyone they sleep with? Do those Chad guys sleeping with multiple women and doing the "pumping and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 07:43 PM |
| 4 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Religious people have more satisfaction?: proof please? Cheating, dead bedrooms, lack of orgasm in women: very frequent experiences of people I know and of people I read on subreddits here. The primrose path makes no sense, as doesn't the denial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 07:38 PM |
| 1 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)So, is it the women's fault or the men's fault that women aren't more represented in the economy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 07:36 PM |
| 3 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Who's we? You and your friends.. Because that's a blanket statement that probably doesn't apply to 99.9 % of modern people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 07:35 PM |
| 7 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?I haven't checked the statistics, but it's very probable that the reason is people who marry as virgins are also religious and conservative. The not knowing what they're missing still applies, whether they divorce or not. I know a couple of such virgin marriages. Lots of cheating even if it's only through chatting or prostitutes. Also dead bedrooms and women whole discover orgasms at 40 with a vibrator.. Revenge fantasy? On whom? To my knowledge, I've never been with a virgin nor had unsatisfact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 06:32 PM |
| 2 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?But a fetish is a fetish, and there's an element of playfulness in it. These women believe in how they live and apparently enjoy it. It's baffling me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 06:20 PM |
| 5 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)So, you think only men work in the industries supplying internet, gas etc?? Afganistan, as in a country not allowing women to study and work? Or are you talking about a different one??? Such bizarre ideas! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?The "cohesive narrative" is one fabricated by the religious groups themselves. For example the gospels, written by members of the early Christian community, based exclusively in oral tradition (since none of the gospel writers were contemporary to the possible historical Jesus) and incorporating elements from previous religious traditions. Once you step outside that community, the evidence is absolutely scarce. The only "plausibility" is the possible existence of a Jew preacher around those year… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?I think at least in this group it's not always very clear what they want, whether they're looking for casual sex with multiple women, or LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:45 PM |
| 12 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?I've read really awful things in there. Like asking permission to cut one's hair, or being taken away the right to drive, or being mocked for being sad. I really cannot understand those women, it's even a bigger mystery to me than RP men... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:43 PM |
| 1 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)Well, since physical attacks are things the vast majority of people won't face, and won't be harmed by, whereas addiction, depression, sickness etc kill millions worldwide every year, I do think it's a good comparison. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:35 PM |
| 3 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)Romania is not a 3rd world country. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:31 PM |
| 3 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)Exactly, they're trying to find something to justify their worth, and instead of going after the things most humans find valuable (kindness, intelligence, empathy, sincerity, etc) they find these absurd ideas that seem to imply we live in a kind of war zone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:28 PM |
| 3 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)???? Aren't women doing all kinds of things too to keep society going? What delusional society do you live in? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:25 PM |
| 1 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)Most of us. I've been protecting myself and the children around me for many years. Never needed a man for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:24 PM |
| 1 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)Beautiful post!!!👏👏👏👏 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:22 PM |
| 4 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)In a mass shooting situation, everyone will try to save themselves and people around them, specially children. I'm sure a lot of the women teachers in the many schools that have been attacked have tried to do their best to save the children around them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:22 PM |
| 1 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)Unless you live in a very dangerous area, that situation won't arise or very infrequently, so it's not really worth thinking about it too much. Women are very active protecting men too. I've protected boys from bullying. I've protected men from their self destructive addictions, their crushing low self esteem, their hopelessness, their weakness when they were sick or depressed. And men have protected me too. It's a reciprocal situation of caring about each other. The only humans who need protect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?"A person willing to drink death like water"???? "Stare down the face of death for what they believe"???? "Thinking romantically about faith"??? Very strange all of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?I'm not alone thinking the way I do, I'm luckily in the company of highly intelligent philosophers and scientists, and being a scientist myself, I see questions as to "why" as just products of our limited human brains, which are after all an imperfect product of evolution. If the secular society is destroyed, it'll be because it won't be able to repeal the power of ignorance and brute force or violence, not because it's bad in itself. Submit yourself however you want, nobody is forbidding you to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?Did I say anywhere anything about me being a genius? Did I say anything anywhere about how long civilizations last? What is true is that secular Western Europe is right now one of the most civilized places on Earth, with the best indicators in welfare, education, lack of violence etc, which correlate to an almost negligible role of religion. And that the most violent, poor regions of the world are deeply religious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 04:24 PM |
| 1 | The entire crux of every debate ever had in the pill ecosystem is rooted in the fact that women are looked down upon for having sexAmong secular people, yes indeed. Nobody cares about a woman's sexual life or past. I don't know why you find it so ridiculous, but anyhow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 04:20 PM |
| 3 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?I'm not triggered at all in your regard, I'm debating with you and using a word you yourself used. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 04:18 PM |
| 1 | The entire crux of every debate ever had in the pill ecosystem is rooted in the fact that women are looked down upon for having sexThe last few paragraphs, are probably due to the influence of Islam in the UK. You write: "most people somewhat engage in purity culture whether it’s victim blaming, believing their virginity means something, viewing sex as dirty, immodest, wrong, and viewing sex as something that can be rectified or justified through marriage" None of that happens in the several European countries I've lived, or only among minorities, like Muslim or Romanis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 04:09 PM |
| 3 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?It's a personal opinion of yours, since very feminine women like me and many others don't agree with you. I don't need a leader, I don't crave dominance or masculine energy. In fact, I think all of those things only happen in men who have a deep inferiority complex preventing them to behave as normal human beings and needing a constant ego trip to boost their fragile self esteem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 04:05 PM |
| 1 | The entire crux of every debate ever had in the pill ecosystem is rooted in the fact that women are looked down upon for having sexLosing virginity came from several fears and power struggles in men: fear to be compared to others, fear for children not to be his own, ego trip from being the first. All rather nasty feelings that caused a lot of repression and pain. The most developed countries in the world, like the European ones, have left behind both religion and those medieval ideas about purity. Luckily for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone actually talk about *having sex* on this Sub?I'm beginning to think it's impossible. But if it happens, it needs to come from other men; men in here very often have an attitude towards us women that makes it impossible for them to listen to anything we say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 03:28 PM |
| 6 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?That's your personal opinion that many, many women like me would refute. No thanks: no leader in my youth and absolutely no priest afterwards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?As for the first point, yes, I tend to think that accepting most if not all of the rulings in questions for example of sexuality is not something most people would do if there wasn't a powerful institution like the church behind it, since they're so illogical and contrary to the natural order of things. Like telling African women not to use condoms in regions with high AIDs prevalence. Or rejecting your own son or daughter because they're gay. Without a doctrinal basis behind this coming from th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone actually talk about *having sex* on this Sub?Very good post, I only hope some men here will take it into account because it comes from a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 03:15 PM |
| 1 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?I don't think so, but of course I don't know the intimate details of everyone's sex life. I think if you're with someone who's in general kind and understanding, they'll be the same in bed if you ask respectfully. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 03:14 PM |
| 1 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Not my experience though. I've learned and taught, and both things hace been very enjoyable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 03:10 PM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?The New Testament doesn't. And the Old Testament is full of things for which you would go to jail nowadays. Of course, many of us have written off that idea long ago .. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?Well, since I have ample proof I'm not an idiot, I won't be risking much in that regard. I don't see anything religion says as saving me from "screwing my life up". I've been living for many years as an intelligent non believer human being, and that "screwing up" hasn't happened at all, so I'm probably not misguided. I wonder what you consider the success of religions has been over the centuries, other than spreading, making millions live in fear and repression, be one of the main causes of wars… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:18 PM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?If your argument proving that you can continue thinking for yourself is that you can leave the church, well, it doesn't make much sense really. In many topics, Christians or Muslims for example are bound to accept their religion's rulings (in matters of sex, abortion, homosexuality, euthanasia, etc) if they're inside the faith. Otherwise they're half outside and half inside, a very strange situation. Atheism or agnosticism in themselves don't claim anything other than the inexistence of god or t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:11 PM |
| 10 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Or not, and they are stuck into a highly unsatisfactory relationship for years because they don't know what they're missing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:01 PM |
| 1 | The entire crux of every debate ever had in the pill ecosystem is rooted in the fact that women are looked down upon for having sexI don't think at all sex and world peace have anything to do. The current situation in Europe for example has nothing to do with it, it has to do with things like power struggles, economy and nationalist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 01:59 PM |
| 5 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?Whatever your reasons to choose religion, once you're inside it, you're supposed to follow the rules dictated by others, so the thinking for oneself stops. I don't think you know many atheists if you think they're all fanatical or nihilist. Atheism means simply not believing in god. Once that position is reached, the choice of what type of person you are is entirely yours. You can be stoic if you feel like it, or anything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 01:55 PM |
| 8 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?People= men like you? Because worldwide there's millions of people enjoying very much their committed relationships, including lots of young people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 12:26 PM |
| 3 | No one has all the answersYes, men seem to need sex more than women. But needing sex is not the only sexual problem a human being can have, and I listed a long array of the problems women face. I really can't agree that celibacy is "more important" than all of those. From my reading of men's forums, it's mostly men who are judging other men based on their sexual experience. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/22 12:18 PM |
| 1 | The entire crux of every debate ever had in the pill ecosystem is rooted in the fact that women are looked down upon for having sexThat doesn't seem to make much sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 12:14 PM |
| 2 | The entire crux of every debate ever had in the pill ecosystem is rooted in the fact that women are looked down upon for having sexAre we supposed to only be allowed to answer to posts that directly apply to us? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:32 AM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?Very different things. Thinking for yourself won't lead you into the fanatic choices many religious people take because "their God tells them that's the right thing". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:31 AM |
| 1 | Based on the post ’women are not attracted to genuinely nice guys’First of all, the world does exist outside of the US and about 50% of redditors are there. Second, people are posting in multiple threads right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:29 AM |
| 14 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?So, basically, sex and relationships are an ego trip that have very little to do with connection, bonding or even pleasure? That explains a lot of the lack of satisfaction of men here and of the contentment of women. As women, we're not competing against each other about who takes what, we're just enjoying the company and pleasure of being with the men in our lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:26 AM |
| 1 | The entire crux of every debate ever had in the pill ecosystem is rooted in the fact that women are looked down upon for having sexLast time I checked my V was there. Let me check again... In the meantime maybe reread and try to understand what I posted, which is the absolute opposite of what you assume I said. Yes, it's still there! Impervious to slut shaming, as it always was. But reticent to accept bad sex... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:23 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadOr maybe our fathers were admirable men we loved and respect and taught us that men and women can be friends, have respect and empathy for each other, listen and help each other, and that set a blueprint for the kind of man we would like to share our lives with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:15 AM |
| 1 | The entire crux of every debate ever had in the pill ecosystem is rooted in the fact that women are looked down upon for having sexGreat post!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:07 AM |
| 1 | The entire crux of every debate ever had in the pill ecosystem is rooted in the fact that women are looked down upon for having sexPurity means absolutely nothing in most secular societies in the world. It's mostly a religious idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:02 AM |
| 1 | The entire crux of every debate ever had in the pill ecosystem is rooted in the fact that women are looked down upon for having sexThat doesn't make too much sense, really. Good sex includes very much pleasuring the woman.. Bad sex is nothing too enticing I agree. But I don't think the slut shaming has nothing to do with any of those things. Maybe the reticence of women towards unsafe, unsatisfactory casual sex do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:00 AM |
| 2 | The entire crux of every debate ever had in the pill ecosystem is rooted in the fact that women are looked down upon for having sexAbsolutely not true for any grown up, liberal woman. I've never "looked down on myself" for having had sex or not. I might have had regrets about some relationships, sex included, but my regrets included many other things about the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 10:57 AM |
| 1 | The entire crux of every debate ever had in the pill ecosystem is rooted in the fact that women are looked down upon for having sexYou throw around a lot of rather objectifying words, so it's difficult to follow your reasoning completely, though it has some merits. As a woman, I've never seen myself as "damaged goods" nor have never been interested in any man who had that type of ideas. My having sex or not depends entirely on whether I find it desirable or adequate with a given man, not on what society dictates. Maybe I had those ideas in a very distant past as a teenager, but luckily, living now in a very secular society … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 10:54 AM |
| – | Urban women are much more materialistic than urban menWhat is the most advertised item and whom are these ads mostly targeted to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 10:46 AM |
| 1 | Based on the post ’women are not attracted to genuinely nice guys’Interesting you mention princess Diana, because there you have a young, beautiful, virgin till marriage woman married to an ugly (though powerful) man, who cheated on her with an older, much less good looking, high n count woman from the start. I wonder what RP men have to say about this story. Apparently Diana did fall in love with Charles, but he never loved her. The sex with the very experienced Camilla and the companionship was much more alluring for him. And we're talking about one of the r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 10:39 AM |
| 3 | No one has all the answersI really don't understand what you're wanting to prove with male vs female prostitution. Certainly not "delete" those formative years, since there's a million things you'll be doing that have nothing to do with love and sex. I'm not "undermining" anything, I was just pointing out the different factors of suffering regarding sex that men and women face. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/22 09:47 AM |
| 2 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Totally agree. Maybe it's because many of them indeed have never had sex. Even the first time with a new person is often not at all satisfactory. It takes time and practice to get things right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:39 AM |
| 0 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Which is a very silly reason, really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:37 AM |
| 5 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Absolutely untrue..Most women lose their virginity in situations with men they'll no longer see again after a short period of time. No pair bonding there whatsoever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:36 AM |
| 16 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Two inexperienced people together= almost guaranteed unsatisfactory sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:34 AM |
| 11 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?Pretty pathetic not to take a woman's virginity??? Why should that mean anything at all in your self esteem... Just ego, the "I was the first one here". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:32 AM |
| 2 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?"Coachability and compliance" ??? Certainly not the kind of qualities to expect from a grown up woman, unless you have some kind of daddy complex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:30 AM |
| 1 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?If number 4 gave me amazing sex, good company, intelligent conversations, that's the one I'll remember, not an awkward unsatisfactory number one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:29 AM |
| 1 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?I have absolutely no fond memory of my first time, which was awkward and unsatisfactory with a guy I would not be interested in ever meeting again. As happens for most women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:27 AM |
| 0 | what’s the appeal in dating a woman with no experience?I think you're mistaken there. Sleeping with somebody who has experienced and is kind and knows how to show you how to do things will probably a much better experience than sleeping with somebody as inexperienced as you, which might result in very awkward and unsatisfactory sex for both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone actually talk about *having sex* on this Sub?Well, that wouldn't be too far fetched a conversation topic, because the few instances of sex talk I've seen here are men (self proclaimed high count ones) advocating for very aggressive and demeaning sex, which might give the impression to younger men in here or virgins that that's what most women want. What we don't. Knowing how to please a woman in bed is a skill that would make men's dating life much more successful than going to the gym, improving their hair or most of the advice I read her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:21 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone actually talk about *having sex* on this Sub?Mostly, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 09:15 AM |
| 3 | What is masculinity?But all of those, except maybe physical strength (which not all men have and not during all stages of their lives) could as well apply to women. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/22 09:06 AM |
| 3 | What is masculinity?I read The Red Queen, and as I remember it, it was basically about animal mating behavior, not about humans... I am really not interested in masculinity or femininities, those are very reductive terms. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/22 09:05 AM |
| 2 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?Stoic or delusional? It's much more "stoic" to accept there's no Big Daddy up there taking care of you and that you need to fend for yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 08:59 AM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?If by God you mean Jesus, he said absolutely nothing about women's role, he surrounded himself with women that were treated as equals, and one of hid closest friends or companions was a prostitute, Mary Magdalene. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 08:56 AM |
| 1 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseExperimenting in any way they might think fit. As men do. The nightmares, or better said, divorces with children around me have invariably happened when people married too young and inexperienced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 01:25 AM |
| 16 | Red pill and projectionMost of what I read in the red pill forums about women sounds totally like a man's fantasy, including this idea of the c-carousel which sounds totally gay. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/22 12:27 AM |
| 2 | I am a reformed asshole/bad boy. Ask me anything.But if you had a mental health problem you don't need to blame yourself that much. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/22 12:25 AM |
| 0 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseBut between having slept around for years and being a virgin, there are lots of intermediate situations which is where most people are, men and women. Women also feel the need to experiment, learn about how their bodies work, enjoy feeling attractive and desired, learn a bit of practice in sex and relationships. There's nothing evil in there, nor does it leave any scars, nor does it make it impossible to love, connect and enjoy sex with a committed partner. If anything, it makes all of that more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 11:32 PM |
| 3 | How often do women get "girlfriend-zoned"?I'm really sorry this happened to you, I wasn't aware how far this could go, and it must be very hurtful. I had something vaguely resembling that, but I think I got out of it quite quickly, nothing compared to that. I guess in those situations, it's not only the "friendzoning", it's the pathology of men thinking they're entitled to sex and love from women near them.. I hope you finally cut contact with that man and moved forward.. All the best | /r/ExRedPill | 15/07/22 10:40 PM |
| 3 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseMen seem to completely disregard the fact that many women also enjoy sex...And that for those women who enjoy sex, everything is going "according to plan" too. Also, I'm not sure how you all who went around p&d are so sure you left "emotional disappointment" behind... Certainly not in me or any of the women I know. We might have been disappointed later by boyfriends or husbands not behaving like we would have liked to, but that casual sex of the past (very moderate in most cases) has left no sca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 10:05 PM |
| 3 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseWell, he has so many objections to so many different types of women.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 09:58 PM |
| 1 | How often do women get "girlfriend-zoned"?I'm a woman and I don't see anything wrong in it. I think some people are only seeing "evil" sexual intentions there, but it might just be the very natural feeling of wanting to be around somebody you like. I've been in those situations, both ways, and see no evil there, and a few of my romantic relationships started that way. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/07/22 09:55 PM |
| 1 | How often do women get "girlfriend-zoned"?I don't know, I'm a woman and I've had crushes on men who were friends or co-workers, it just happens. On the other hand,I don't see anything too bad in becoming friends with somebody you're attracted to. If you're respectful and don't push boundaries, it's after all only natural to want to be around somebody you find attractive. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/07/22 09:52 PM |
| 3 | How often do women get "girlfriend-zoned"?It has happened to me as a woman too, in both directions. Totally natural, although difficult to negotiate. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/07/22 09:03 PM |
| 1 | How often do women get "girlfriend-zoned"?I don't think that's at all something that means you can't trust people. Of course if they're insisting and pushing boundaries it's different, but the fact of developing romantic feelings for a friend is not offensive. And it's not about sex, at least not entirely. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/07/22 09:02 PM |
| 3 | How often do women get "girlfriend-zoned"?I've had that a couple of times, but never felt offended to be honest, feelings evolve and it's only natural if you feel comfortable with a person of the gender you're attracted to, and they are reasonably attractive, to develop feelings. I've also had "secret crushes" on friends or co-workers, which might not have been as secret if I had been more courageous. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/07/22 09:00 PM |
| 3 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common sensehttps://www.allsides.com/news-source/evie-magazine-media-bias | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 08:57 PM |
| 9 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseNot at all a feminist site, a right wing magazine catering for right wing women. It took me about two seconds to find it out, although just a few sentences into the article it was more than clear: "Eve magazine’s homepage and a quick read through some of the articles (written at a middle school reading level) show that the authors are clearly pandering to right-wing talking points." "Despite their claims of being “fair and balanced,” the authors unashamedly hate on feminism by creating straw-man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Shouldn’t the buyers set the standards?First of all, don't call me "honey". I'm not one of your submissive Stepford wives who find that remotely flattering. You use demeaning terms in every single post. Learn a bit of respect. You're insulting every single woman who posts in this group. I couldn't care less about your boss and his grandparents. That's a tiny tiny sample of humans which proves absolutely nothing. If you want to believe your fantasy of a world where women are delighted to stay at home, cooking, breeding and whatever el… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 08:48 PM |
| 5 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseWhy do all of these men know so well what's psychologically damaging for women! I really wonder what the percentage of therapists and psychiatrists is among the men in this forum! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 08:32 PM |
| 11 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseNo problem.. You could edit that a bit, put it into a few cards and carry it in your wallet. So when a woman approaches you, you can save time by weeding out the "repulsive", the "plain Janes with sexual experience", the ones who want to settle, the virgins, the ultrareligious and whatever the CC are. Then if you ever find a girl that doesn't belong in any of those categories, she might take out a similar card, and who knows, she might have a list of conditions that exclude you too. Happy ending… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Shouldn’t the buyers set the standards?Great post, but I really think it's not worth discussing with this person, whose ideal of a society is one with women as breeders and submissively dependent to men. Plus he can get very nasty, saying we're misandrists and "feminism is cancer". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Shouldn’t the buyers set the standards?This person keeps calling a misandrist every woman in here who disputes his idea about the "golden times" when women were subject to men. Just a warning to other women who might feel offended. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 08:11 PM |
| 11 | Why do women push back so hard on the notion that dating may be easier for them?I think you need to define "success in dating". If success is defined as getting many hits in OLD and being maybe able to have sex with multiple men, yes, maybe it's easier as a woman. The problem is that that definition is not usually the definition of success for most women. It's the definition of success for most men and a minority of women. And most women won't experience as success getting many hits or having disappointing ONS, they might even see them as annoying or as failures. If we chan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Can Long Distance work?Yes, absolutely. Airfare prices are increasing a lot, like everything else.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Shouldn’t the buyers set the standards?Calling me a misandrist is so ridiculous that I shouldn't even answer to the rest. Not only I don't always see the worst in men, but I've always been surrounded by men (family, friends, lovers, coworkers) whom I deeply respected and loved. But when faced with male chauvinistic ideas like yours, yes, I need to react. You insist in knowing how women feel about our lives, that's another ridiculous claim. Feminism never told women to behave like pigs. And of course feminism is not cancer, and by say… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 07:39 PM |
| 1 | No one has all the answersThanks! | /r/ExRedPill | 15/07/22 05:21 PM |
| 1 | What policies would you introduce to incentivise fathers to take parental leave and better support women to chase their career !Because even if your child is away for part of the day (having fun, learning things and socializing) there are still many hours, weekends, holidays to be with them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 05:06 PM |
| 1 | What policies would you introduce to incentivise fathers to take parental leave and better support women to chase their career !I live in one of those countries and don't find they are "benefitting men over women", they're just trying to give men some time also to experience parentheses. The men around me who work in competitive companies tell me they don't take the entire parental leave because, although allowed, it can be frowned upon, and in any case, a lot of the work will be waiting for them when they come back. I think the men who are most benefitting are civil servants. One thing I find really awful for parents of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 04:59 PM |
| 2 | Can Long Distance work?Very successful...I was in a LDR for many years, and very happy. We got together about half of the month (me teleworking those days, or him accepting work assignments in my city) although we kept separate apartments, in different countries; back then (pre Covid and pre Ucranian war) it wasn't too expensive to travel at all. Our jobs allowed us to travel frequently to see each other and for leisure. Each time we got together the sex was amazing, like a honeymoon. None of us wanted children or mar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Women, what happens when a man refuses to make a move?Not really: been there, done that... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Shouldn’t the buyers set the standards?If women are finding partners no matter what, as you all seem constantly to imply here, they don't need to lower their standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 03:55 PM |
| 3 | Shouldn’t the buyers set the standards?If that woman was doing it so, it was because she probably had customers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 03:54 PM |
| 0 | Shouldn’t the buyers set the standards?"People had children because both parts enjoyed sex": clearly you don't know much about women's sexuality in previous centuries where woman's pleasure was not at all a consideration for marriage or reproduction. "Women were pressured to find a nice guy": women were pressured (and still are in many countries) to find any guy, whether much older, fat,a bully, a marital rapist, somebody frequenting prostitutes or with a mistress, a closeted gay, anything.* "Allowing promiscuity": I guess you mean p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 03:47 PM |
| 3 | Shouldn’t the buyers set the standards?Great summary! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 03:41 PM |
| 1 | Women, what happens when a man refuses to make a move?No, not surprised at all, but their reactions are not the most usual ones or well known by other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Getting Muscular Is A Terrible Return On Investment When It Comes To DatingIt's not about me, it's about the scientific method. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Getting Muscular Is A Terrible Return On Investment When It Comes To DatingStill very small sample. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 02:00 PM |
| 2 | Getting Muscular Is A Terrible Return On Investment When It Comes To DatingAnyone with a scientific background, like me, knows that the sample of a study it's crucial in determining its validity. I don't need to prove anything, the burden of proof lies in the person making a statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Getting Muscular Is A Terrible Return On Investment When It Comes To Dating160 is a tiny sample. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 11:53 AM |
| 2 | Getting Muscular Is A Terrible Return On Investment When It Comes To DatingI think between a muscled gym man and a fem boy there's a wide array of body types which are perfectly fine and probably more successful with women. Those are the two extremes of a spectrum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 11:52 AM |
| 12 | What do you guys think of sexual market value?I'm sure it's a strategy to make 20 something girls afraid and hurry up choosing a man, in the vain hope it's one of them. 30 somethings are more experienced and wise, and would never make that mistake. Shaming people, be it women (the wall, fat or feminist shaming) or men (being beta, a virgin, an incel, a simp, etc) seems to be a central part of RP ideology. Probably because through shaming comes fear, and I guess that combination leads many men towards YouTube channels, workshops by gurus, bo… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/07/22 11:00 AM |
| 1 | Women, what happens when a man refuses to make a move?What exactly is hypocrisy here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 09:16 AM |
| 6 | Men are way hornier than women, and this is the cause of everything being discussed here. The fact that this is even disputed is proof that women are unable to have an honest discussion about dating and gender relations.As always, generalizing is a bad idea. Yes, a lot of men are very interested in sex, but there are also lots of asexual and low libido men, or men with paraphilias or kinks that need very specific conditions to get aroused. And whereas probably women don't get around thinking about having sex with every single man they find, once they meet somebody they enjoy having sex with, they can be much more active than their partner, become multiorgasmic, don't get as easily tired of sex etc. The subreddi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 12:41 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Lack of Sexual/Relational Attraction Isn't Attributed to a Lack of Self-Improvement or Concurrent ValueThe woman can make those decisions too. No need for anyone to be domineering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 12:22 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Lack of Sexual/Relational Attraction Isn't Attributed to a Lack of Self-Improvement or Concurrent ValueAs a woman, a confrontational/competitive person in one I stay away from. Life is too short to waste it in power struggles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Women, what happens when a man refuses to make a move?Yes, I've heard the "being afraid of losing you" argument once, and I respect it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Women, what happens when a man refuses to make a move?I'm usually very forward when I'm very interested, I've initiated most of my relationships. But when I'm not that hugely interested, then risking the humiliation of a rejection is not worth it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 07:51 PM |
| 3 | Women, what happens when a man refuses to make a move?Yes, it's true that most men will accept sex without much questioning, but that's not a good start for a relationship if there's no further interest. I have more than enough experience to know it. In the case of that man, we had been friends for years,we then moved into that weird new dating stage when I was single again, and it was all very confusing. I didn't specially need a boyfriend, so, if he wanted something he should have done something clearly. Since he didn't, I assumed he wasn't into … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 07:43 PM |
| 0 | I never realized how many men actually go bald until I hit late 20s/30s. It’s more common than you thinkMaybe, it would totally depend on the personality and my attraction to the man in question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 07:33 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Lack of Sexual/Relational Attraction Isn't Attributed to a Lack of Self-Improvement or Concurrent ValueI agree in that perfectly valuable people might have trouble finding a romantic or sexual partner, since this is dependant on so many factors. But I also think that some people struggle because of characteristics of their own that could be improved. For example, the few very unsuccessful men I've been able to observe had some character traits that made contact with them not very appealing. They were confrontational, didn't listen much, were very obsessive about some topics, or dressed in a very … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 07:16 PM |
| 3 | Women, what happens when a man refuses to make a move?Well, if she had been waiting for "attraction to materialize", there's your answer, she wasn't attracted. Just forget her and move on. But next time try not to let too much time pass before knowing where you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Women, what happens when a man refuses to make a move?I was meaning in a date context of course. Or if you're spending a lot of time with a woman you're interested in. Most of my own relationships moved from "friends" to "boyfriends" through a kiss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 07:05 PM |
| 1 | There is a core misunderstanding of what "average" is.Well, yes, in strictly evolutionary terms, but I don't think many of us are so interested in that. I guess most people want to be happy, not pass genes. Besides,most women are careful with contraception and the "passing of genes" just doesn't happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 07:03 PM |
| 2 | Women, what happens when a man refuses to make a move?As a woman, I would recommend to try something physical soon if you're interested. Otherwise, it moves into a very ambiguous zone of "friendship" that it's very difficult to get away from even if you're both interested. Kissing goodbye is probably the best moment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Women, what happens when a man refuses to make a move?Well, the classical goodbye kiss would be a good test. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Women, what happens when a man refuses to make a move?I mean, as women we can be very confused about the intentions of the other part, and afraid of rejection. I went into a series of dates with a man recently, very long dates lasting from noon to midnight and eventually moving into spending entire weekends at his place. We're both very experienced, so nothing was stopping us. But then, he wouldn't initiate anything physical, so of course the conclusion was that either he didn't find me attractive, he had some problem preventing him for wanting sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Women, what happens when a man refuses to make a move?That's strange, specially if you had already started kissing. Maybe it would be a good learning opportunity to ask her exactly what went wrong if you're still in touch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Women, what happens when a man refuses to make a move?But it's much better to fail sometimes as to never try. What's the worst case scenario if you express your interest to somebody that isn't interested? She will reject you, ok, the world doesn't end there. And if she doesn't reject you, it might be the beginning of something great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 06:50 PM |
| 3 | Women, what happens when a man refuses to make a move?You say you're married, so that puts you in a different position to single men since you'll probably reject any woman approaching you. So, if a woman makes a move, she must be a rather special type of woman and her reactions also not the most common ones, so it's difficult to explain. Among single people, it depends on whether the man is interested or not. If the woman perceives the man is interested, and she's not shy or inexperienced, she might want to make the first move. This might work fine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 06:42 PM |
| 0 | There is a core misunderstanding of what "average" is.I have fallen in love at first sight once and it was definitely one of my worst mistakes. There's absolutely no reason to have that kind of feelings for somebody you just met, it's 99% projection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 06:33 PM |
| 3 | I never realized how many men actually go bald until I hit late 20s/30s. It’s more common than you thinkThose are probably very expensive treatments that most people don't have access to. Now that you mention McConaughey, I used to find him extremely attractive, but I recently saw him on tv and there was something very odd about him, I don't know if it was the hair or some botched plastic surgery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 06:31 PM |
| 1 | There is a core misunderstanding of what "average" is.I agree maybe with the first part of what you write, but definitely not with the ability to dupe women showing "good social skills". There's nothing good about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 06:29 PM |
| 2 | There is a core misunderstanding of what "average" is.I don't think they saw them as inferior to begin with. One of them told me she initially was dazzled by her partner because he was extremely caring and also very present in her life, never leaving her waiting for a text or phone call. She moved with him only a week after meeting, I think the beginning was very good. Sex is not the defining element for a woman to start a relationship at all; things like being listened, cared for, valued, can be very powerful reasons. And some of these men have th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 05:35 PM |
| 0 | Generational differences in hotness standardsI'm really sorry, that must be painful. Maybe you need to do a bit of research about places where people of your age meet in a relaxed environment. When I moved to a new city for work, I felt a bit isolated for a while, then I joined a theater group and my life totally changed. Suddenly I had a very active social life, made new friends, dated several interesting men and met my boyfriend. Underneath the surface of the loneliness of big cities there's probably a lot going on, but it needs a bit of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?I just don't feel anyone has the right to have this information if the other person is not willing to share it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 05:26 PM |
| 1 | There is a core misunderstanding of what "average" is.Fair enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 05:24 PM |
| 1 | There is a core misunderstanding of what "average" is.Not my experience at all, nor that of my women friends. Very average men with little options elsewhere can become abusive in relationships, even when they're dating very attractive women. I think being abusive or not is something some people carry within themselves, probably from having experienced it as children in their own homes, and has nothing to do with their own level of attractiveness. It's something they are not able to hide for long. The women closest to me who have been severely mistr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 05:23 PM |
| 4 | I never realized how many men actually go bald until I hit late 20s/30s. It’s more common than you thinkAs a woman, I would totally prefer a balding or shaved man than a man who got hair implants, which usually are clearly detected and look awful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 04:58 PM |
| 4 | There is a core misunderstanding of what "average" is.Women who complain about the difficulties of dating are typically not complaining about men looks. They're complaining about things in relationships that don't work, like lack of communication or satisfactory sex, cheating, videogames or internet addiction, low libido, etc . Check any women's forum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 04:54 PM |
| 1 | There is a core misunderstanding of what "average" is.But taking into account most women don't use OLD, the average woman on Tinder is not the average woman on real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 04:49 PM |
| 2 | There is a core misunderstanding of what "average" is.The constant fat shaming in this subreddit clearly proves men are not attracted to the average American woman if it's indeed true average equals overweight in the US. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 04:46 PM |
| 3 | There is a core misunderstanding of what "average" is.I don't think there's often "love at first sight" no matter how attractive the person is. It might be "attraction at first sight", which is mostly an aesthetic evaluation that has nothing to do with love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 04:43 PM |
| 17 | No one has all the answersI think it depends on the definition of suffering. Just in things related to sexuality and relationships: Suffering for some men means not finding the kind of girlfriend they want while in their 20s and having to wait a few extra years to find one. It can indeed be painful, but I think it's not a horrible degree of suffering. A lot of women will go through the same if they're not good looking, or overweight, or above a certain age, and we don't see them constantly complaining. Plus of course men… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/07/22 04:24 PM |
| 3 | Generational differences in hotness standardsBut I think that happens everywhere, people don't spontaneously talk to each other in the street most of the time; you need to find places or activities where it's safe and accepted to interact with others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?That's the whole Chad theory people are constantly posting about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 04:11 PM |
| 25 | Why is there such a stark difference in how charming 90s actresses were in interviews vs now?Probably because back then there was still a lot of pressure on them to show themselves as feminine, charming etc, whereas nowadays women can show themselves as they are and don't need to pretend as much. | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/07/22 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Again, at least on my end, just an abstract before I hit the paywall. As a trained scientist, I cannot value the merits of a scientific paper before reading it in full. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 02:06 PM |
| 0 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?First, as I wrote above, no, a lot of people don't realize they're not getting good sex because they have no experience of anything else. Second, there's no proof that having slept with several people deprives one of the experience of intimacy. Life is long, and sex, as love or friendship, can happen several times during one's life, without making it less sincere or intense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Lots of reasons I'm not willing to share here but have nothing to do with the attraction I felt for him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:29 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?I can only access the abstract of the article, so I cannot judge on its merit (sample size, method), but I see it relates to speed dating. Speed dating rounds take typically around 6 minutes; it's really difficult in that very short span of time to become aware of much more than physical characteristics of the person in front of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:27 PM |
| 2 | PPD would be more useful if posters were required to have a flair with their r/rateme ratingI fully agree! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:23 PM |
| 8 | Generational differences in hotness standardsI've read this thread with a lot of interest and find there's very valuable information here. As somebody who's also a bit older, I think there's also a cultural element here that's very specific to the US. I live in a Southern European country; I checked the statistics for love and sex among young people here, and they're perfectly fine, with 85+% of people having regular sex and romantic relationships.. Undoubtedly, with that percentage, both attractive and average people are getting it..I thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:21 PM |
| 2 | Generational differences in hotness standardsGreat post! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:03 PM |
| 4 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?I'm not sure if a totally inexperienced person can identify bad sex. For example, for a woman, it takes quite a while to get to know how your body works and how to obtain satisfying orgasms, and that might not happen with your first partner; if he's the only one, you might never realize how much you're missing. I'm sure for a man there's also varying degrees of intensity and pleasure, and again, as a virgin or a very inexperienced man, you might not be in a position to realize how lacking the ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 03:00 AM |
| 2 | Reducing sexual attraction down to only physical appearance and hypergamy is oversimplified and cowardly.Since you have absolutely no information to say what the women in here are like, it'll be difficult to change a view based absolutely on zero evidence. Absurd claims cannot be proved or disproved. By the way, the ones saying here to go to the gym are the men. Yet another illogical statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 02:45 AM |
| 9 | The idea that “you can’t control who you’re attracted to” is disingenuous, and fails to recognize the variable of relativity in women’s ability to be incredibly selective. That is, a persons “standards” are fluid and fluctuate quickly in the absence of options."Inevitable hypergamy, insane pickiness". I'm making an anthology of misogynistic terms here for the next time somebody posts that us women are harsh on men and they're always kind and polite... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 02:36 AM |
| 3 | Reducing sexual attraction down to only physical appearance and hypergamy is oversimplified and cowardly.The men in this sub however all seem to be so incredibly hot, tall, muscular, etc, it radiates from their posts and really dazzles us fat, cheese smelling women to the point we faint and abandon our boyfriends, husbands and lovers for them... Irony of course... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 02:31 AM |
| 2 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Again, you're twisting my words. I didn't say "best sex", I said "good sex,", including of course the intimacy part. But maybe some people have extraordinary imagination for bodily sensations and can mimick the experience in their minds, who knows.... As for me, both when I still hadn't slept with anyone, and after I had but had just not too good sex, I couldn't have imagined at all what a really good, intimate, mind blowing sexual relationship would be like. Not until I had it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 02:17 AM |
| – | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?I didn't say "the single best sex of their life". I just said that before having good sex, and specially as a virgin, it's impossible to know what it feels like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 02:06 AM |
| 4 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?You're either an extremely inexperienced man who has a tiny sample of experience to compare among different women, or somebody who always chooses the same type of woman to sleep with. Biology you say.... As humans, we all have biologically the same type of ears, eyes, taste buds, brains. Yet there's a huge diversity in musical tastes, aesthetic values, preferences in food and drinks, feelings, learning and mental experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:53 AM |
| – | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Absolutely not true. There are so many different ways of experiencing pleasure as women, so many different degrees of libido, of sexual preferences, kinks, fantasies etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:49 AM |
| – | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?It's emotionally devastating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:46 AM |
| – | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Sadly, very frequent in Europe, at least where I live. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:46 AM |
| – | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Add to that childbirth, vaginal tears, lactation, post natal depression, mourning about lost fitness and beauty, lack of libido, estrangement from partner, sleepless nights. A carousel of joy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:45 AM |
| – | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Unless you've experienced good sex, you really don't know what it feels like. No amount of visual stimulation through porn or masturbation can convey the physical and emotional feelings of sex. Of course being experienced is not equal to having had great sex. But in the virgin state you really don't know yet what you'll feel once you get good, emotionally and physically overwhelming sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:43 AM |
| – | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?That's absurd. For a woman who's into this thing, sleeping with a very attractive man can be very pleasurable and something to remember. She's getting a much better deal than the alleged Chad who's in fact sleeping with an unattractive woman. Who's using who? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:35 AM |
| – | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Same here. The love of my life was not conventionally attractive or even, as I discovered later, good in bed. He was also broke and not muscular. Yet being with him while it lasted and remembering him afterwards was the most intense emotional experience in my life, even though I've dated much more attractive men afterwards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:30 AM |
| – | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?How is this answering the question from the POV of a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:18 AM |
| – | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Very true, even when it regards to dating. Some of my most beautiful women friends have had a rather appalling love life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:17 AM |
| – | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?It might be easier, but it's not a compulsory requirement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:13 AM |
| 2 | What are your thoughts on "looks only matter to men and women in this world"?I totally agree with that. There's a lot of people who were beautiful once and then lost their looks for many reasons (health problems, age, accidents) and they didn't stop enjoying life, they even increased their joy and contentement. I have a couple of such people in my life. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/07/22 12:52 AM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts on "looks only matter to men and women in this world"?The overwhelming majority of people worldwide are not specially good looking and they manage to live satisfying lives. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/07/22 12:47 AM |
| 9 | PPD would be more useful if posters were required to have a flair with their r/rateme ratingSo, for you, the validity of a woman's opinion depends on how attractive she is??? Also, I cannot really understand why only the opinion of "attractive women" should matter, why in reality the problem of many men in this subreddit is that they seem to think happiness is only possible with "attractive women", when that's absolutely not true. Average people get together all the time and have rewarding experiences including sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 12:36 AM |
| 8 | Women In Their 30's Aren't Lowering Their StandardsThat's really great! | /r/ExRedPill | 13/07/22 11:40 PM |
| 1 | is it better for a woman to hate you, vs being bored of you?Whatever | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 09:31 PM |
| 0 | is it better for a woman to hate you, vs being bored of you?I'm not your bro, and you don't know what I'm assuming or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 09:26 PM |
| 8 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Absolutely! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 08:36 PM |
| 57 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Choosing one is really difficult, most of what I read here is wrong. But probably the idea that only super attractive men are successful in relationships and thus the goal must be to become one of them (by improving looks, finances or whatever). As I've posted a million times here, online dating is not real life, and in real life, men of all shapes, sizes, heights, levels of income, find love and sex sooner or later. And the key as whether their relationships are happy and long lasting is not ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Men want the most sexual partners possible and women want the best. That's where our problems come from.No grown up experienced straight woman I've known says "men are trash" in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 08:24 PM |
| 1 | is it better for a woman to hate you, vs being bored of you?He does that a lot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 08:21 PM |
| 2 | is it better for a woman to hate you, vs being bored of you?Being hateful also does not get you anywhere | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 08:17 PM |
| 1 | is it better for a woman to hate you, vs being bored of you?So, you've met and psychologically evaluated the billions of women on Earth before writing this brilliant essay on misogyny? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 08:15 PM |
| 0 | is it better for a woman to hate you, vs being bored of you?"Women being a lot less trashy"... That's a great attitude to success. And also thinking women "truly sucking" at being providers, mothers or leaders. Sometimes I wonder if the men in this subreddit like women at all or are just horny and hate them. It's so clear from posts like this that some men just don't deserve finding any kind of relationship with a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 08:14 PM |
| 1 | is it better for a woman to hate you, vs being bored of you?Absolutely absurd advice that will lead to totally meaningless relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 08:09 PM |
| 2 | is it better for a woman to hate you, vs being bored of you?What's the use of somebody hating you? Or do you need attention from everyone, even if that attention is a negative feeling? That suggests a very strong narcissistic personality for which the worst tragedy is not being noticed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 08:07 PM |
| 1 | There should be more than four horsemenCheating of course. | /r/ExRedPill | 13/07/22 06:50 PM |
| 1 | How are people supposed to find partners?https://hernorm.com/online-dating-statistics/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatMillions of other men have very different experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 06:10 PM |
| 55 | Women In Their 30's Aren't Lowering Their StandardsThis is a great post, I wish some men in the pill groups I follow (like Purple P) would read this. Many women like me say often things along these lines, but are always ridiculed because "we don't know what's like for a man". Reading this from a man would help them. I'm really sorry about the sexual assault part by the way | /r/ExRedPill | 13/07/22 06:07 PM |
| 6 | How are people supposed to find partners?Of course they're not meeting through cold approaches, I never said that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 04:03 PM |
| 6 | How are people supposed to find partners?Well, as I've posted here repeatedly, in my country in Southern Europe, there seems to be no problems for young people in terms of sex and romance (according to statistics, 85% of people under 26 are having both often) and the key is undoubtedly socializing. I've met all of my romantic partners while doing some kind of activity or through mutual friends. And in all of those relationships there was a prior period of friendship before moving towards romance and sex. Yet socializing and friendship … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatWell, it's difficult to judge what changed before and after those improvements and what kind of women were being attracted and for what goals (casual sex or LTR). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 03:35 PM |
| 1 | How are people supposed to find partners?You don't need a huge crowd for this. I've lived in an apartment all of my adult life, and that has never been a factor regarding my dating life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 03:33 PM |
| 7 | How are people supposed to find partners?It has worked for the majority of people currently in a relationship, since the percentage of success of OLD is about 17%, so clearly everyone else is meeting through real life interactions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 03:30 PM |
| 9 | How are people supposed to find partners?Expecting to be "approached" by women is highly unrealistic and a bit narcissistic really. Being in a mixed gender group will naturally lead to feelings and attraction between certain individuals of the group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 03:28 PM |
| 3 | How are people supposed to find partners?There are plenty of inexpensive hobbies and us appartment dwellers do have people coming over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 03:23 PM |
| 1 | How are people supposed to find partners?I think the rate of success for LTR on OLD is much lower, something like 17%. And only a minority of women use them (28%). So clearly people are finding their LT partners elsewhere: https://hernorm.com/online-dating-statistics/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 03:22 PM |
| 1 | There should be more than four horsemenBeing promiscuous: sleeping with multiple partners Lack of loyalty might include many things, for example sexting other women, meeting with ex girlfriends, demeaning one's partner in front of friends, hiding using porn or dating apps, etc | /r/ExRedPill | 13/07/22 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatOr you yourself have a limited experience of how women behave and what they want in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatMost if not all the women I know are like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 12:43 PM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatWell, even if you have great looks, are wealthy and whatever else you might add to that list, if your personality is not appealing, you won't go very far after the first dates. My threshold is very low, I have never rejected a man for his looks, also I have never been approached by men with extremely unappealing looks (in the normal context of meeting men through work, friends, activities etc, not random men on the street).A gallery of the men I've dated would prove huge variation in almost any … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatGeneral trends in society: in my own country, young men are active emotionally and sexually as proved by the statistics I have often posted. Highly individualistic point of view: as a trained therapist, I've talked to many women and read widely about this topic. I think you're overthinking this and trying to find general patterns to justify your own experience. I am not willing to go into details about my personal life, but as I wrote in my first post, whatever my mistakes of the past, they are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 11:50 AM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatVictim blaming??? So, trying to analyze one's mistakes in the past and being generous in not wanting to transfer to the rest of men whatever shortcomings my previous partners had is victim blaming?? You really make no sense at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 10:51 AM |
| 1 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?Women in this subreddit certainly don't see men as adversaries, most of us keep posting how we are or have been in committed relationships with men we love/loved. When we post something adversarial is in response to misogynistic or demeaning posts. I really don't see around me that dynamics you describe in a general way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 10:49 AM |
| 14 | A lot of average/below average women have terrible personalitiesFirst of all, by definition, average is 50%+. I really doubt 50% + of the roughly 50% of humans who are women, so 25% + of humans are toxic. Second, OP's sample of some of his friends' mothers and maybe a few women he himself knows is not representative enough to predict anything. Unlike a lot of people in this thread, my experience is that most people are decent human beings, and quite a few, kind and nice. And there's a small percentage of people who are nasty. I really don't think this corres… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatAnd you have proof of this? Because as a woman myself, once a minimal threshold of looks is there, personality is 99% important for me, and I would say for all of my women friends. Even the prettiest among them are with men who are not at all extremely attractive or tall or fit or muscular, they've chosen them for the way they are as persons. And no, they're not wealthy and in several cases the women make much more money than them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 11:24 PM |
| 4 | Does the alpha/beta male classification actually have any validity to it or is it just BS?I've been reading such forums for a while now as a woman with a professional interest in human psychology, and I really think it reflects much more an innate competitiveness of men (that appears for example in sports too) than anything really happening in real life. Plus it simplifies the very complex topic of attraction, seduction and mating into very simplistic terms which might be soothing to young men who feel lost trying to understand it. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/07/22 08:49 PM |
| 1 | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?Even in Northern Europe, where I'm now.. Cafés, parks, bars full of young people of both sexes talking to each other in groups, having fun and interacting, which might lead to sex or romance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatGreat post! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 08:29 PM |
| – | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?Great summary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 04:46 PM |
| – | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?Agree, but there's nothing preventing men from stopping that behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 04:42 PM |
| – | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?I posted statistics for my own country in Southern Europe last week, and it definitely doesn't apply here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatWhat pieces of information from the RP do you consider have helped you in your relationship with women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 04:23 PM |
| 2 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatWhat does the RP say to you to make you happier about yourself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatIn which ways had the RP helped you in that regard? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Am I not good enough?"Plow the road for you??" | /r/RedPillWomen | 12/07/22 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatBut among women we share a lot about our emotional and sexual lives, so we know how other women feel, and also we have our own experience with men. In my case, I add to that three years training as a therapist with multiple group therapy sessions with other women. And I've never seen in friends, the women I trained with ot myself the kind of attitudes men in here attribute to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatThose are not "edge cases" and cannot absolutely not be compared to gaining the lottery. The average human does usually find some type of sexual or emotional connection during their lifetime. That's a very universal experience and has been so for millennia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 11:36 AM |
| 2 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatBut then, I cannot see how the RP is useful for you if you're not following their guidelines or wanting to attain their goals. Being perfectly content with being average is just mainstream psychological advice which has absolutely nothing to do with RP and which any therapist would tell you to do. Accept yourself. That's more of an Eastern philosophy inspired wisdom that really has nothing to do with the hate, anger, competitiveness and misogyny of the RP, as expressed here every say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 11:31 AM |
| 2 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatWomen in here routinely try to post different points of view, and for the most part what we write is dismissed as irrelevant and downvoted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 11:26 AM |
| 4 | Am I not good enough?There's lots of people of color in Europe and lots of them live very well adjusted lives. Not that I'm suggesting you move, but what you write in that sense is just not true. | /r/RedPillWomen | 12/07/22 10:50 AM |
| 1 | Am I not good enough?Why is it so important for the man to be taller than you? What would be so wrong for a man just about your size? I'm not suggesting shorter because you seem very much interested in height. | /r/RedPillWomen | 12/07/22 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatWhich the redpill won't certainly be able to explain, since they use very unreliable information about how women think and behave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 10:35 AM |
| 2 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatBut I don't think the message of the RP is "being mediocre is enough", it's the opposite, according to them you need to improve your looks, your finances, your body, your confidence, to have success with women. According to them, only a minority of men, the so called Chads, have mating success. However, "being mediocre aka average is enough" is what most non red pill people in here are constantly saying. Lots of people of all shapes, sizes, races, heights, levels of income do find romantic and s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 10:25 AM |
| 5 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?You forgot to add: how important is your own "body count" (horrible expression) as a man when judging a woman's sexual past? Because if you think your own is not important, that's blatant hypocrisy. And if yours is very low or non existent (which is perfectly fine), you might just be scared of being compared to others. My advice to women: you don't need to give this information to anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 09:28 AM |
| 0 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatMany men here have no experience whatsoever with women, and those that have and have failed most probably didn't understand properly what was happening. As for those who haven't failed, I see here broadly two categories: those who are just going from hook up to hook up and probably not interested in understanding women much anyhow, and those who are successful in their relationships and post here to deny the validity of RP ideas. There might be a small subsegment of men who have been successful … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 09:15 AM |
| 4 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatUnderstanding women in which way? Because everything I read about women from RP sources doesn't correspond at all to me or to any of the many women I've known during my life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 08:53 AM |
| 9 | i have gotten to the conclusion that blackpill and inceldom are not an universal reality but a mindsetGreat post. And I do think that probably the most important element is indeed the monetizing of men's failure at dating. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/07/22 08:02 AM |
| 2 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatEscaping solitude through the forums, maybe, although I really doubt that constantly obsessing about one aspect of life might be very helpful. And certainly such an ideology which basically leads to hating women will eventually lead to even more despair in the long run. I indeed don't understand it since all the heterosexual non asexual men I know are or have been in relationships with women.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 08:00 AM |
| 1 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beWell, I don't think it was the only reason, and anyhow they seem to be in a good place now sharing the house as friends and co-parents | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 06:44 AM |
| 7 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatI'm a woman, I post here often, and I don't definitely come here to be "entertained as in a zoo". I probably have the rather foolish idea that some of the younger men in here can still realize the red pill is an absurd ideology dragging them even deeper into solitude and despair, that's the reason I try to express my ideas. And of course I think misogyny should be fought against. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 06:11 AM |
| 2 | So Many Men Leave Their "Starter Wife" After SuccessI really don't know such men, as a professionally successful woman, my woman friends are all doing very well financially on their own, and if/when they choose to marry it's because they find the company of a man pleasant enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 06:08 AM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatThanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 06:06 AM |
| 1 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beIn my country, prenups or rather the kind of system you choose are completely free. And joint custody is now almost the default way to assign child care by judges. As for my friend who didn't divorce, I think she made a good choice. They're no longer young people with plans to find anyone else, and since they have a big house they can live quite independently from each other but also be there if they need each other. And they allow each other to spend lots of time apart; I was just visiting them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 06:05 AM |
| 10 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatProbably that explains a lot of what I read here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 12:34 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYes!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 12:34 AM |
| 2 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beYes, we pray every night to the Goddess and we light candles in every room in her honor.... Irony of course... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 12:32 AM |
| 2 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beSorry about that. I guess laws are much more progressive over here.. Child support is nowhere that high, as I said with the right prenups nothing is split 50/50 after divorce and most fathers get joint custody if they apply for it. I have several recent divorce cases in my family and close friends. Of course, the house is a problem, and in my opinion the fairest option would be to make people sell the house they've bought together and split the profit. No woman with your wife's income (which is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWell, I've dated a couple of them and never felt it was a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNothing creepy or cringe there. A young woman is harassed by an older man and she tries several times to get rid of him. She finally uses black humor to make him stop. Of course, there's no boyfriend being harmed anywhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 12:13 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThanks a lot for this! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 11:48 PM |
| 0 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to be"Moreover, this analysis is not peer-reviewed; it’s just a blog post." From your article.. One blog post by a person from Utah, so probably somebody with strong religious beliefs... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 11:42 PM |
| 5 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beI don't know about the US, but where I live most young couples opt for a system in which their incomes, assets etc remain separate, so that in case of divorce, the only things to settle are the house if they've bought it together and the children's pension. And many men choose joint custody, which is the default option now, so that the children's pension is very much reduced. Plus no working woman receives any substantial alimony. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 11:34 PM |
| 6 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beOlder than the typical 20 year old virgin the red pillers seen to think is the best option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 11:30 PM |
| 36 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatI think a lot of us who don't believe in the red pill have experienced both successes and failures in our emotional life. The difference is that we realize what specific factors in our lives and choices were the cause of those failures/successes and don't try to make general rules out of them, put the blame on external causes or vilify and attribute evil intentions to the gender we're interested in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 11:26 PM |
| 2 | If you're a guy whose goal is to have as many children as possible, what is your best course of action?I didn't say that. I said it's very exhausting unless you're planning not to take care of them. The unless clearly indicate there are 2 possible scenarios there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 11:10 PM |
| 0 | If you're a guy whose goal is to have as many children as possible, what is your best course of action?Well, having children is a very exhausting experience and I don't think many people think life is better with a large family. Unless you're not planning to be involved in taking care of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 10:05 PM |
| 13 | Hypergamy has my mind all messed up. How much of a battle really are you in with other men to get women?Never met one that chose to cheat on her husband because she found a "better suitor". If we're talking about changing partners while still unmarried, then yes, it's a trial and error process. | /r/ExRedPill | 11/07/22 10:03 PM |
| 2 | If you're a guy whose goal is to have as many children as possible, what is your best course of action?Why do you want to have that many children? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 09:33 PM |
| 27 | Hypergamy has my mind all messed up. How much of a battle really are you in with other men to get women?It's indeed ridiculous and absolutely exaggerated. | /r/ExRedPill | 11/07/22 09:30 PM |
| 1 | TRP behavior and modern women behavior are mirror images of each otherAs a woman, I never felt represented by Sex & the city, nor did I know any woman who was like them. But anyhow, my dim memory of the show is that only one of the characters (Samantha I think) was really promiscuous and shallow, and she was portrayed in a rather negative and ridiculous way. Of the others, Carrie fell in love with "Mr Big" and was forever struggling about what to do with that relationship; Charlotte was a shy inexperienced girl and I think a virgin for many episodes, and Miranda g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 09:18 PM |
| 5 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beSince I cannot believe you have dated all modern college educated women in your country, but just a tiny fraction of them, you're clearly generalizing in an unfair way. It's not a question of my approval, which you indeed don't need, it's about having rational discussions that don't include such insulting terms to large groups of population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 09:04 PM |
| 2 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beSince I was commenting on the article the OP posted, what you say does not apply here. If you have some data to back up your claim, do provide it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 08:53 PM |
| 10 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beOnce again, vilifying large groups of people only speaks about the person doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 08:51 PM |
| 11 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beAlmost every day in here somebody starts throwing insults again women. "Borderline psychopaths" indeed. Then someone else says that the women in here are demeaning to men. Yet I have never ever read something like that addressed to men here... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 08:44 PM |
| 5 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beGreat, so educated older women are better marriage options. Quite the opposite of what the RP says. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 08:37 PM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?I do have the same perspective, yes, and I try not to do so. I've known enough men in my life (friends, relatives, lovers, co-workers) to be careful in not generalizing, specially if it's in insulting terms | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 08:29 PM |
| 4 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?Calling women "neurotic, wine aunts, quirky" it's definitely proof you don't have that thing you're asking about. Vilifying large groups of population is proof of having a very limited grasp of reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 07:40 PM |
| 3 | Question: If BlackPill is true...I'm sure there are therapists who could help you find out why exactly things have gone this way for you and maybe guide you to change whatever has prevented you from being successful. | /r/ExRedPill | 11/07/22 07:12 PM |
| 2 | I feel like my prime will end, how to get over redpill brainwashing?You're extremely young. Most women will still have a lot of sexual and emotional experiences from their late 20s onwards, and probably well into their 40s and 50s or later. Not having had sex yet probably makes you feel it's more complicated than it really is. Just relax, enjoy your birthday and take life one day at a time. | /r/ExRedPill | 11/07/22 12:08 PM |
| 11 | So Many Men Leave Their "Starter Wife" After SuccessThe concept of a "starter wife" in in itself so unpleasant and really ridiculous in a forum where most men complain that they cannot get sex or love. Women are not phones or cars you upgrade after a few years. If your wife is an intelligent human being, as I hope you are, she will understand from your way of behavior towards her that your commitment is sincere. And of course you need to commit not to go around cheating her or looking for a "newer model". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 12:02 PM |
| 3 | The state is the problem between men and women.I don't know about Sweden, it's certainly not the case in Southern Europe. By the way, I checked and there's no evidence of that being true.. There's a statistic about Swedes very frequently posting on incel online forums, but that could be explained by other reasons (no such forums in Sweden, good knowledge of English, research, etc). Not everyone that posts in an online forum is an incel, as not everyone that posts here is s man unhappy with his dating success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 07:43 AM |
| 1 | Anyone from Germany?De nada! | /r/ExRedPill | 11/07/22 07:41 AM |
| 1 | Natural selection is favoring poorer people with little education; people with higher earnings and better education are being selected againstNS is not only about passing genes, but also about how frequent they become in a population, so yes, the number of offspring is important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:31 PM |
| 2 | Natural selection is favoring poorer people with little education; people with higher earnings and better education are being selected againstThis is a wrong interpretation of what natural selection is all about. There's no directional trend in Darwinian natural selection towards an ideal state of a species (for example, in the case of homo sapiens, towards intelligence). NS is just about the genes of those individuals who are more successful at survival and breeding becoming more frequent in populations. So, yes, in our current state of society, probably the genes that will become more frequent will be those of people more prone to r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:30 PM |
| 37 | Question: If BlackPill is true...I don't think there's such thing as biological incelism. Most men worldwide do arrive to a stage in their lives where they get sexual and emotional connections to women if they are interested in getting them. But when you're still young, it might seem like it takes forever for that stage to arrive, specially if you live in a digital bubble in forums and YouTube channels and never experienced real life much. A lot of the self proclaimed incels in their 20s will be married or in relationships in t… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/07/22 11:01 PM |
| 2 | What are ways to affirm a man’s “masculinity” that aren’t tied to “dominating” or “subjugation”?Forget about being masculine. You're a man and that's more than enough. Most of the problems of the world come from men trying to prove how masculine they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 10:51 PM |
| 1 | What are ways to affirm a man’s “masculinity” that aren’t tied to “dominating” or “subjugation”?"Women and weaklings"...OMG... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 10:50 PM |
| 2 | I’m so happy!Well, life has proved me I'm not at all stupid but rather the opposite. The huge amount of downvotes you're getting seem to indicate who's very mistaken in this. | /r/ExRedPill | 10/07/22 10:22 PM |
| 1 | I’m so happy!And the bot is really getting crazy warning us about this male chauvinistic guy... | /r/ExRedPill | 10/07/22 10:12 PM |
| 3 | I’m so happy!Either you're joking, or not only you haven't left the red pill, your brain right now so full of red pill neurons you no longer realize it... Luckily the vast majority of people in this thread, bot included, realize how absurd and damaging this ideology is, that wants to make of women silly little dolls and of men imaginary heros only existing in an inflated sex of ego. The only people agreeing with you are men who are saying themselves they have no success with women. My advice: don't listen to… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/07/22 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Anyone from Germany?"Has mantenido alguna vez relaciones sexuales coitales (con penetración)? 73,4% de los jóvenes afirma haber mantenido relaciones sexuales coitales. No hay diferencias significativas entre chicos y chicas Entre los jóvenes de 16 a 18 años esta cifra se sitúa en el 50,2%, pasando al 70,9% entre los que tienen de 19 a 21 años, y al 85,2% entre los de 22 a 25 años de edad". | /r/ExRedPill | 10/07/22 08:19 PM |
| 2 | Anyone from Germany?Hola, aquí te pongo el link. Es de 2019, y sin duda la gente lo ha pasado mal en la pandemia, pero seguro que están recuperando el tiempo perdido: https://sec.es/encuesta-nacional-sobre-sexualidad-y-anticoncepcion-entre-los-jovenes-espanoles-16-25-anos/ | /r/ExRedPill | 10/07/22 08:16 PM |
| 2 | Women here, do you expect the man to plan most/all of the dates when you’re in a relationship?Do you both work? If you do, what makes you think he's expected to pay for everything? You write further down "you fuck them". Is the sex with your partner not enjoyable for you too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Women here, do you expect the man to plan most/all of the dates when you’re in a relationship?Of course not. And I've been incredibly unhappy in relationships where the man tried to make all decisions about our leisure time together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 08:01 PM |
| 3 | I think PPD is a victim of selection biasWell, I'm a woman posting here often, and certainly not a gold digger (I'm financially independent, never needed anything from a man in that regard and have often dated men who were less well off than me), I consider myself the opposite of nasty with men (unless they're misogynistic), and as for the ball busting, well, that's not how I've ever treated that part of male anatomy, quite the other way round. And men certainly seem to like it very much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 07:50 PM |
| 15 | Nobody operates by the laws of rationality when it comes to dating/sex, and that's fineAbsolutely. Meeting somebody crucial to your life might depend on something as simple as crossing the street. I met my last bf in a hiking trip. We got along very well, but were both too shy to exchange numbers and when we arrived back in town we said goodbye at the bus station and went each our way. I started walking towards my house, and suddenly had the urge to cross the street and walk on the other side instead. It was a very crowded avenue, with lots of traffic, and I couldn't see much of w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 07:43 PM |
| 2 | The state is the problem between men and women.Yes, basically the old idea that marriage is a form of socially accepted prostitution. A prostitute that also cleans, cooks, breeds and takes care of the children... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyRead your own articles. What gender equality means is not for all women to become engineers or all men to become nurses. It's for women and men to have the same rights and opportunities in every field: education, work, sexuality, sharing of chores at home and in child care, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 07:14 PM |
| 1 | The state is the problem between men and women.Yes, sorry, I'll try to edit it. Thanks for letting me know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 06:35 PM |
| 5 | The state is the problem between men and women.Who are probably a minority. I cannot believe that the majority of men want to be with helpless women who need them to survive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 06:18 PM |
| 12 | How the Match Group Destroyed DatingReally good post that confirms my intuition that dating apps are a highly artificial environment geared towards maximizing profit, and that people using them are mostly unhappy. Socializing in real life is the way to go. After reading some of the comments, I think this is one of the most important threads I've read in here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 06:08 PM |
| 1 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Sure, of course, and it's perfectly ok and not a huge torture to anyone to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 06:02 PM |
| 1 | I believe most people in RP groups are lonelier and have masculine hobbies.Well, those are interesting activities where you can meet interesting people. What's so "disingenuous" about it? | /r/ExRedPill | 10/07/22 06:00 PM |
| 4 | The state is the problem between men and women.Thinking that women becoming free individuals is equivalent to opening Pandora's box is deeply misogynistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 05:57 PM |
| 2 | The state is the problem between men and women.Define "marry down". Money is not the only factor leading love choices. I was for many years with a man who earned a bit less than I did (mostly because he chose to work half time to be able to do some very interesting things) and was educationally a bit below me. But since I'm financially independent, those things really had no importance compared to many other things he did have which were really the reason of my attraction to it A woman with a job that makes her financially independent, and m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 05:54 PM |
| 7 | The state is the problem between men and women.That's way too long to read, but living in an European country where indeed we have a quite good welfare system and most women work I can say what you write makes no sense. People over here keep having normal emotional and sexual relationships, because they socialize from an early age | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 05:45 PM |
| 1 | I believe most people in RP groups are lonelier and have masculine hobbies.Or not. There are many places where you can take classes for these things and meet people. Women do it all the time | /r/ExRedPill | 10/07/22 05:10 PM |
| 1 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Well, cooking as work might entail looking at some recipes now and then unless you want to eat the same thing year long. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 05:09 PM |
| 1 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.It's not a question of "asking", which seems to imply the idea of "helping". The household chores are the duty of both. Why should the woman need to go around asking the man to do his share? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 05:07 PM |
| 1 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.I don't know anyone doing it that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 05:06 PM |
| 3 | Anyone from Germany?Not German (although I'm very fluent and can understand it perfectly well): I live in Spain and I really don't think things here are at all like in the US. Young people here seem to be very social, going out almost every weekend, and having emotional and sexual lives that, according to the statistics I checked, are very satisfying, so I guess it leaves less space for those ideologies. I lived in Germany for a long time, although long time ago too, and although people seemed a bit more isolated t… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/07/22 05:04 PM |
| 3 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.In civilized countries as in Europe, women get several months of paid maternity leave and can opt for reduced work hours if they want so. And in many countries men also get paternity leave in order to take turns with the woman looking after the child. And most kindergartens are not "institutionalized warehouses", they are spaces for children to socialize and learn, which they often love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 12:06 PM |
| 1 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Great, as long as the number of hours are comparable. Not a few hours now and then in a task vs a daily one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 12:02 PM |
| 2 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Ok, I guess it's difficult to keep track of who's saying what. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 12:01 PM |
| 3 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.That's quite different from the two minutes you mentioned before. At least over here, to become a flight attendant you need to have certain requirements, like height, speaking foreign languages, and in many airlines it's a really shitty life, not well payed and with no stability whatsoever for things like having a family of children. Airline crews of several airlines are right now on strike because of their very bad work conditions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 12:00 PM |
| 2 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Which was exactly what I was saying from the beginning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:42 AM |
| 2 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.If you're growing vegetables that's a very different story, I agree.. But I cannot see why this should be exclusively a man's job. My grandmother was the one in charge of that task, for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:41 AM |
| 2 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.You cook "rice" in 2 minutes...??? 60 an hour with no skills???.The more I read about (I imagine) the US the more astonished I am really... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:39 AM |
| 2 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.So, you think most men work in their gardens the same number of hours their wives spend cleaning, cooking, washing etc? Either they have gardening as a hobby or huge gardens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:37 AM |
| 3 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Houses with big gardens are typically owned by wealthy people who can afford a gardener. Our not too big garden, which I mainly take care of, doesn't take ne more than a couple of hours every week and a hired gardener every few months for pruning of trees etc. Cooking, cleaning, washing are daily tasks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:35 AM |
| 3 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.I do both, and believe, a few hours working in the garden, even if it's hard work, is a delight compared to the daily grind of cooking, cleaning, grocery shopping etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:32 AM |
| 4 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.It depends. If she's at home but taking care of their children, yes, he should help, because children care is a huge burden that benefits the two of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:26 AM |
| 5 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.My European boyfriend wasn't very good at this either. But my European father did all the cooking and grocery shopping. So, it depends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:25 AM |
| 3 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.So, sharing some house chores is such an appalling prospect that it's much better to give up on relationships entirely. Vacuum cleaning once a week or cooking some meals or loading a dishwasher or washing machine are such horrible ordeals that a life of celibacy is fully justified in order to avoid them ... Sighs.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:23 AM |
| 5 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Being "good at cleaning and cooking" is just an excuse. Those are relatively simple tasks that can be learned. And I really doubt any garden needs so much tending that working on it can excuse you from cleaning and cooking every day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:21 AM |
| 2 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Dysfunctional and harmful in what way? Of course, if you expect for her to work a double shift, it will be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:18 AM |
| 1 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.So, you only eat fruit and raw vegetables?? Not everyone can pay a cleaning service or change their working hours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:10 AM |
| 1 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.No, I do it all the time too, I batch cook for my mum and her carer two times a week, and for myself every day. It's only that I do enjoy it, my father was a great cook and I've somehow inherited his interest for cooking. I very much prefer it to things like cleaning or ironing. But I totally agree it can be very exhausting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:06 AM |
| 3 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Well, that's the kind of couple and family you have. But lots of people live in very different situations, with women working as many hours as the man and making as much money or more. So saying it's a woman's duty to take care of the house chores is a wrong statement. There might be couples/families where work is divided as you describe, but it doesn't apply to everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:04 AM |
| 2 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.I must say I enjoy it, I listen to beautiful music while cooking and try to improvise new recipes. But it's hard work, all the cutting, stirring, the heat, standing up for a long time, etc. In my case, since I have a limited time to cook for several days, it's almost like if I was in a restaurant kitchen, and I end up quite exhausted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:00 AM |
| 2 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.I'm sure what he calls "cooking" is just opening the fridge to grab something, ot putting a frozen meal in the microwave. Which is not only unhealthy but financially not sustainable for a family. I cook two days a week for my mum's household (her and her carer). Cooking large portions of three different dishes takes me about an hour, add to that the washing up. And a superficial cleaning of my appartment would probably take me at least two hours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 10:54 AM |
| 2 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Two minutes cooking and cleaning mean probably you don't cook at all, just heat something up, and unless you live in a tiny space, you don't clean either. A couple or a family living in a house or apartment of several rooms, kitchen and bathroom will need to invest quite a few hours per week to have decent healthy meals for everyone and have the house cleaned. Of course, the man in that family could say he doesn't need to eat anything but a take away and doesn't need to live in a clean house. Bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 10:50 AM |
| 2 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Me and most of my neighbors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 10:43 AM |
| 8 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Oh yeah, going to the supermarket is such a wonderful hobby of most women! Even better than buying shoes! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 10:43 AM |
| 5 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.So, protect from a lot of things that will probably never happen, and in exchange do nothing about the things that need to be dealt with on a daily basis... Very clever brainwashing to justify living like a hundred years ago or more. Women have no "duty" at all regarding house chores, unless they choose not to work outside the house. If they're working women, the only fair deal is to split the tasks equally. Well, the day the man needs to make an extra effort to fight against the murderer or rob… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 10:41 AM |
| 2 | Red pillers are Not consistentVery good point! | /r/ExRedPill | 10/07/22 10:01 AM |
| 3 | I believe most people in RP groups are lonelier and have masculine hobbies.Try including some hobbies where you can meet women. Yoga, language learning, music, painting, all of those activities are frequented almost only by women where I live. Even if you don't find a woman to date, you might make new friends through which you might have more chances. | /r/ExRedPill | 10/07/22 09:41 AM |
| 3 | The bar IS in hell for men. But woman choose the barFor me, really, in a couple where both work about the same number of hours, it's not a question of "helping" by the man, the tasks should be split 50/50, or even more in favor of the woman, since the woman carries very hard responsibilities like pregnancy, birth and lactation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 09:38 AM |
| 1 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyThose articles are about gender preferences, not traditional gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 09:32 AM |
| 1 | Are men really worthless?Maybe there are comments I haven't seen, but those I did see didn't express that view. I almost never lie, and really, accusing others of lying is nasty and childish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 09:28 AM |
| 1 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?Well, maybe you couldn't find her, but there are certainly quite a lot of people that have. If the women you've found all lacked empathy and compassion you must have been looking in the wrong place. There's lots of women in this group, me included, who are having right now or have had in the past that type of meaningful relationships with men. And if course we don't consider men our enemies. But if you approach women with that preconceived ideas in mind, they might work as a self fulfilling prop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 09:26 AM |
| 1 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?Ok, I fully agree then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:42 PM |
| 3 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?You said "mothers create short guys". I think it's very relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts?Ok, then maybe try to work on those things, like smiling more, not staring at women, being a bit more relaxed. You might find somebody who could coach that in that regard. I know quite a few single mothers and they do travel around with boyfriends. They have usually people who can take care of the kids. I wouldn't recommend the thing with the Mexican woman though. It might not be as clear cut as it seems. Best luck! | /r/ExRedPill | 09/07/22 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyYes, asparagus and truffles do definitely taste much better. There might be some misguided people who want to spend a fortune in something just because it's scarce, but that's not the most frequent scenario. But that's just an example I chose. We could look for another one. Making some kind of gadget most people don't want to buy very scarce won't increase sales. My own standards arise from experience about what makes me happy and satisfied in a relationship. A man who's not intelligent or kind … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:34 PM |
| 3 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?If it's not about the sex, but about making the relationship interesting, then that's definitely a skill that can be learned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:26 PM |
| 3 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?I wasn't saying that. If the attractive man was a good person, probably he wouldn't have been sleeping around and breaking hearts so that a woman would become his "alpha widow" as people here like to say. I wrote "maybe only to discover", because that's one of the possible scenarios that might induce a change of standards in a young woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:25 PM |
| 3 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?What graph???.Do you know anything about genetics? As far as I know, height is not coded in the Y chromosome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:22 PM |
| 2 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?Same here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:19 PM |
| 4 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?I think it's mostly because the "best" stage means for men the stage where she has no clue about sexuality and cannot compare her experiences with whatever man gets there first. Performance anxiety and fear of being compared to other men is very much at the root of this virgin fetish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:18 PM |
| 14 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?That's totally right and what really lies at the root of all these discussions. They don't care much about what women want or not, it's about who's the best among them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:16 PM |
| 3 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?Short men all over the world are getting girlfriends and wives and have been doing so for centuries.. That's why there are so many short people everywhere, because those genes have been passed from generation to generation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:14 PM |
| 10 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?Great post. Also, probably because they're very young and inexperienced, they seem not to understand that people evolve with time. Yes, a young girl might be attracted to some very good looking guy and have something with him. Maybe only to discover that under the shiny surface there was a shallow, narcissist, promiscuous person she wouldn't like to be in a long term relationship, and change her radar accordingly to start paying attention to a different type of man she would eventually marry. I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:11 PM |
| 4 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?Clearly you're a very charming person and the ladies just don't notice ... Irony of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:05 PM |
| 9 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?Translation: if she had good sex in her youth, she won't be as willing to accept mediocre sex from her husband later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyScarcity theory only applies if the good that becomes scarce is also widely wanted. Broccoli could become scarce but that wouldn't increase demand. Men who have characteristics that don't appeal to women are not a wanted good, so their demand won't increase. My standards and desires are pretty common and universal in these times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 01:20 PM |
| 4 | Thoughts?What are exactly your expectations? What's so wrong about single mothers? (Although I would mistrust somebody just dropping and email and wanted to date, to be honest). Why would religion be so important to you, above happiness and emotional and sexual fulfillment? I find it difficult to believe that women walk away just because you're balding. You say yourself you're socially awkward. Maybe you could ask somebody close to you to point out what type of behaviors are problematic and you could wor… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/07/22 01:06 PM |
| 2 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyI do hope women will increasingly reach power in all fields. Although I don't want patriarchal women which are much worse than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 12:13 PM |
| 1 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyHow is physical force the backbone of political power nowadays? The most powerful country in Europe has been ruled for years by a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 12:11 PM |
| 1 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyBecause psychologically polyamory is not appealing to many people. However, it's indeed a growing trend . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 12:10 PM |
| 1 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyWhat psychological research are you using to back up your claims? 100 years ago marriage was almost equivalent to survival for many women; access to education and work was extremely limited and there were no good contraception options. So yes, a woman might choose almost anyone in order to stay out of poverty or social exclusion if she was poor or pregnant. The situation is completely different now, women have plenty of choices and marriage is just one of them. If marriage doesn't seem appealing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 12:06 PM |
| 1 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyInteresting that you know so much about women's brains My brain won't stop telling me though that a man that doesn't suit my standards (basically kind, intelligent, caring and a good lover) is something I really have no need for and won't accept into my life no matter what. And it does seem many women in here are telling you the same. But then, I guess we don't know how our brains work as well as you.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 11:43 AM |
| 1 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietySo, you think if there's even more competition between women in a society where women become scarce, it'll be easier to find "the right man" . That makes absolutely no sense. About the second point: because clearly, many women don't find men such an important thing and can do very well without them. Lots of women choose to be single, and widowed and divorced women choose remarriage in much lower numbers than men in the same situation. Once society has changed enough to allow vast numbers of wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 11:06 AM |
| 1 | Even if it is true, (I don’t think it is) Why is being BBb considered such a bad thing?Women: "damaged, alpha widowed or post wall" Men: either Chads or BB. Probably this way of categorizing people and thinking in white and black terms is one of the many reasons many men in this forum have such little success. Maybe if they looked at people as human beings they would start improving their chances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: let's suppose that the current state of relationships among men and women leads to the complete collapse of modern society due to so many bitter aimless single men...Since the majority of men in most countries find love and sex eventually, that's not something that will happen. Anyhow, if some men decide to withdraw from society, that's their choice. There are not many jobs or function carried out by men that women, the rest of men or robots couldn't cover. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 10:41 AM |
| 2 | Are women to blame for you not having sex? Or are your standards too high?If women all thought the same regarding dating, they would all be going into the same models of relationship and choosing the same type of men. Yet, by just going outside to a crowded place you'll see men of all shapes and sizes are in relationships. And statistics show people are very diverse in the kind of relationships they choose, from traditional marriage, to different types of couples (FwB, living together, choosing not to have children, polyamory, living a single life with casual or regul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 10:33 AM |
| 4 | Trust me, you don’t want to be a 10/10, anything above being general attractive attracts stalkers and craziesI wonder what sample of women have you evaluated to be able to say that average women (that's to say, the overwhelming majority) are like you describe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 10:21 AM |
| 1 | Trust me, you don’t want to be a 10/10, anything above being general attractive attracts stalkers and craziesIf you mean women, then yes, I agree: I have several woman friends who are totally stunning, and really, their life is not easy. Men staring at them and hitting on them constantly. Most of them are in relationships with very average looking men that love them, and that unwanted attention is just background noise they don't enjoy at all. If your post referred to men, I agree again. As a woman, I never give a second thought to an extremely good looking man; yes, I might admire his looks from a dis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 10:19 AM |
| 1 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesDozens of times is still not every weekend. They must be very wealthy or have some type of responsibilities at home that need to be cared of. Or are at the first year of being away from home and are homesick. If they don't take a plane (which a lot of people cannot afford), distances by bus, train or car are considerable. My experience of many different places in Spain is not the same, but let's agree on our having different experiences there. As I said I'm not comparing and of course not at all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 09:15 AM |
| 2 | Are men really worthless?I think the person who posted that is a man, was suggesting that as a way to improve men's chances at dating (according to him), and most people, including women, told him that it was a really bad, unethical idea .. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 09:07 AM |
| 1 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyReally?.You think in Scandinavia, Germany, Spain there's "more adherence to traditional gender roles". I know well all those countries, and it certainly isn't so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 09:04 AM |
| 1 | What’s your dating advice to the guys on here who can’t get success with women?Well, apparently quite a lot of people thought it was useful, according to the upvotes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 09:01 AM |
| 1 | If A Man Can Get A Younger Partner By Dumping His Older One Then He ShouldGreat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyYes, it relies of course on press releases but there's much more to it. I lived for a while with a Mormon family in Virginia as a teenager, they were of course not the branch of Mormonism depicted in the series, but even so I've always been interested since then in this topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 12:50 AM |
| 7 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesI wasn't comparing the US to Spain at all. Quite the other way round, I was explaining why here people don't have as much trouble with sex or relationships. I think you're wrong about people not moving; big cities are full of people from all over the country, and smaller towns with people from villages. That includes students too. My whole family has migrated somewhere else within Spain (or abroad) to live or work, nobody remains in the villages or towns of origin in my family in two different r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 12:44 AM |
| 2 | Are men really worthless?Well, there lots of things men do "bring to the table", but I don't like generalizing. The men in my life have each contributed to my vision and experience of the world in different ways . My father died recently, and probably the thing I would like most right now would be to spend a bit of more extra time with him, talk about everything and nothing, listen him tell me about his life and give me advice about mine. His wisdom, practical sense, his way of nurturing and keeping the family together,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyFair enough. I do think the Netflix series is worth watching though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 12:19 AM |
| 3 | If A Man Can Get A Younger Partner By Dumping His Older One Then He ShouldYes, I agree with your last paragraph, and it's probably safer for women and for society if they are indeed alone. The level of suffering they could cause if they happened to find a woman could be appalling... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 12:06 AM |
| 0 | If A Man Can Get A Younger Partner By Dumping His Older One Then He ShouldSo, would you have liked for this to happen in your own family? Your father to dump your mother for a "newer model" as if she were a phone? I'm not interested in the specific details of your family, this is just a thought experiment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyYet the countries in Europe with socialist governments have the highest rates worldwide of happiness, welfare, education, equality between women and men etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:56 PM |
| 2 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyIf you're interested in this thing of excluding young men by Mormons, do watch "Keep sweet" on Netflix, it's excellent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietySadly, it does seem that historically one of the purposes and effect of war was that one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:52 PM |
| 2 | Intentionally changing the Gender-Ratio in SocietyI really don't think that would work. As it is, in the "mating years" there's roughly the same number of women than men. So, the fact that some men apparently don't find women is not because women are scarce, it's just because they don't have the characteristics women are looking for. Since there's a growing trend in the Western world for women choosing not to marry or have children, I think if competition increased by making men scarce, even more women would choose to be single. Why fight for a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:49 PM |
| 4 | Are men really worthless?That's quite long, but I think either you or somebody else raised this same point a few days ago. As a woman, I don't think most women in here are posting anything hateful or demeaning towards men. Yes, most of us disagree with a lot of the things posted here, because many of them have implicit messages of misogyny, trying to find tricks and strategies to approach dating which are harmful to women (and I would say, in the long run, to those men themselves if they're looking for a meaningful rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:42 PM |
| 13 | Women here on PPD recognize the leverage they have in dating but when TRP tells men how to tip the scales back into their favor they shame/shun it.So, basically you're complaining that women in here don't agree with 1 & 2) preventive cheating (just in case your girlfriend leaves you or wants to wait a bit before sex) and 3) manipulating vulnerable women... By all means, do whatever you want with your life, but don't expect others to applaud unethical behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:29 PM |
| 1 | What’s your dating advice to the guys on here who can’t get success with women?Fully agree! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:03 PM |
| 3 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesI'm not sure it's a good idea here either for a man on his own to cold approach a woman. But if you're out with friends, you might encounter other groups of people about your age, and start taking or dancing if you're in a club, and things follow from there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:03 PM |
| 9 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesI guess you know that being sexually active and getting pregnant are different things? Good contraception and good sex education explain it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 10:59 PM |
| 3 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesYou mean about sexual and relationship behavior in Spain?. Here is the link, although it's in Spanish. It's pre Covid,of course the pandemic must have affected these data, though I think people now are trying to catch up very quickly: https://sec.es/encuesta-nacional-sobre-sexualidad-y-anticoncepcion-entre-los-jovenes-espanoles-16-25-anos/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 10:57 PM |
| 10 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesYes, that's something I fully agree with, I just posted something in that direction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 08:09 PM |
| 9 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesDefinitely not in Spain!! You should see my city tonight, there's so much going on despite the crushing heat... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 08:07 PM |
| 11 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesWell, I'm not sure of that, over here it seems we have the longest work schedules in Europe. A lot of people finish work at 8 pm. But a lot will also go drinking or partying after work, specially from Thursday to Sunday. One thing that I somehow feel plays a role is our excellent public transport system. I spent some time as a teenager in the US, and really, without a car your social life was impossible. And if you had a car and needed to drive, you couldn't drink. Whereas here in most cities th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 08:06 PM |
| 0 | What’s your dating advice to the guys on here who can’t get success with women?Thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 06:07 PM |
| 46 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesThis alleged lack of sex and romance among young men seems to be happening in the US as you repeatedly say here, but not everywhere. In my southern European country, young men and women alike seem, according to statistics I've posted here many times, to be reasonably active sexually and happy with their lives in that regard. I'm sure other countries, at least in the South of Europe, have similar statistics. Since it would be far fetched to assume that all men here are tall, fit, muscular, etc, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 05:57 PM |
| 15 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesThis! I was going to post something along the same lines but it's getting very exhausting to repeat the same arguments over and over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 05:44 PM |
| 21 | What’s your dating advice to the guys on here who can’t get success with women?Don't obsess too much about looks, fitness, etc. You don't need going to the gym constantly to get women to like you. That's mostly a male fantasy. But do put a bit of attention on how you dress, your hair, your hygiene. Without obsessing Try to acquire a certain level of confidence talking to women by interacting with them outside the dating scene too. Don't see women as the enemy, they're just human beings like yourself If you're using apps, be respectful when you write, don't make unwanted se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 03:35 PM |
| 16 | Not finding intimacy is the new normalFirst of all, 25 is still very young. Statistically, you still have a lot of years ahead of you to have many types of experiences in that field. Second, the word "normal" doesn't mean anything and implies a hidden judgment. You can think if it more pragmatically in terms of "average", which is a statistical measure, and find out from reliable sources what's average at your age where you lived. I checked it for my country a while ago, and it's certainly not average. Most young people that age do … | /r/ExRedPill | 08/07/22 02:49 PM |
| 0 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)Not what I read in the women's subreddit I follow, but ok, it might be so. I of course wasn't suggesting anything about your looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 01:50 PM |
| 2 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)Ask yourself why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Even if personality matters more then looks, that doesn’t make things betterProbably you're judging by your own experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Even if personality matters more then looks, that doesn’t make things betterWell, I've been to many dates during my life and never talked about those things. By the way, politics and sex seem very strange choices as conversation topics with a stranger. And almost a guarantee that the date might go wrong . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Even if personality matters more then looks, that doesn’t make things betterSo, for you there are no conversation topics other than politics, sex or jokes... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:48 PM |
| 1 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)Haha, I totally agree about cooking=foreplay. I dated a guy a while ago who after a couple dates suggested we go to his place and he would cook for me. Sitting in his kitchen, sipping a glass of wine and seeing him cook was absolutely sexy!!! And the food was so good that after dinner... well... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:45 PM |
| 1 | Even if personality matters more then looks, that doesn’t make things betterI wrote "complaining constantly" which is very different to "ever". That of course applies to women too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:41 PM |
| 2 | Even if personality matters more then looks, that doesn’t make things betterThanks for this, and I do agree with you too.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:12 PM |
| 2 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)And of course it's a very bad idea to go on dates in areas that are known to be dangerous. Any responsible grown up person knows that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:53 AM |
| 3 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)I've been in many dates in quite a few different countries and never encountered any risks. The US might be different though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:40 AM |
| 5 | Over-socialization from social media has skewed the idea of conventionally attractive individualsI think comparisons mostly contribute to low self esteem, but then I'm not a man, there might be other psychological features in there I don't understand. Certainly for women it's very detrimental and is behind a lot of the eating disorders we see nowadays. Thanks for the clear explanation about sigma. I think I understand it better now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 11:39 AM |
| 12 | Over-socialization from social media has skewed the idea of conventionally attractive individualsI totally agree with what you write, although the statistical details are a bit difficult for me (Science graduate here, but I found statistics a nightmare). A lot of people in here seem to limit their interactions with women to online content. They don't have a clear perception of what human romantic and sexual perceptions are all about in real life. I'm beginning to experiment this in my family. One of my nephews, undoubtedly the best looking one, a bright, intelligent 12 year old, is constant… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 10:36 AM |
| 5 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)Not where I live. What happens here much too often is men killing or hurting their girlfriends or wives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 10:20 AM |
| 1 | Even if personality matters more then looks, that doesn’t make things betterMy list was about people on first dates. Of course sexual innuendos between people who are sexual partners is fine if it's not all the time. But not between people who are just beginning to know each other. I think everyone knows what a bad joke is. One that is not funny, is offensive, and doesn't flow naturally with the rest of the conversation. Your analogy is a bit absurd, really. And I've dated enough "warm blooded human beings" to know it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 10:19 AM |
| 0 | There should be more than four horsemenThose things are indeed bad. I would add lack of loyalty, being promiscuous, not being sexually generous, addictions (not only to substances, but also to behaviors, like social media), not sharing tasks, being mean about money, lying. | /r/ExRedPill | 08/07/22 09:46 AM |
| 12 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)And if you go to most women's subreddits here, the majority of women say they don't like to accept drinks/dinner from men because that can be seen as buying their time and maybe their sexual availability. Go Dutch! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 09:43 AM |
| 7 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)People don't die all the time trying to be heros during dates. They might die fighting fires, in wars, or other situations, but not protecting women while they're out having drinks or dinner with them. Unless you live in an extremely dangerous place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 09:41 AM |
| 6 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)Most women work and don't expect those things from men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 09:37 AM |
| 3 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)Great post, as a woman I fully agree. I find a man that cooks very sexy to tell you the truth. Both my father and one of my boyfriends did a lot of the cooking, and it was very "nurturing" to use the OP's word. I have trouble imagining a situation where I would need to be "protected". The OP seems to be using ideas from decades ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 09:36 AM |
| 7 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)As a financially independent woman since I was 18, I've never expected anyone to pay for me, and if they did, I would be paying next time. But of course, I've never felt the obligation to cook or clean for a man, and I've been with men who loved to cook for me. We would then split the cleaning tasks. And I've never ever needed a man's protection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 09:30 AM |
| 2 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)The behaviors you mention from both sides are stereotypes that nobody should expect from anyone. I've never expected any man to pay for anything for me. We usually split or take turns in paying. I would never be with a man who expected from me the cooking/cleaning without sharing those tasks. Nurturing should be done by both. And I never ever needed any man's protection. Those are all very old fashioned ideas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 09:27 AM |
| 2 | [Q4W] Do women get as upset if there are all women at a party like guys do if its a sausageparty?Well, yes, that's what I've been recommending here for a long time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 09:25 AM |
| 2 | Do women really freak out if they're still single into their 30's-40's?Not in the groups I follow. Very few negative comments from the women, which get heavily downvoted, daily hateful misogynistic comments from the men. | /r/ExRedPill | 08/07/22 09:24 AM |
| 0 | Reasons for ignoring texts or delays in responsesFirst of all, define young girl. There are men in this group of very varied ages, I guess they might be trying to contact girls or women of very various ages. Those girls/women might be teachers, nurses, doctors, carers, drivers, pilots, flight attendants, factory workers, just to name a few jobs, where indeed it's very difficult to be constantly checking your phone Unless of course everyone in here is a high school/college student. That would explain a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 09:21 AM |
| 3 | Do women really freak out if they're still single into their 30's-40's?I've seen a lot of misogyny too. | /r/ExRedPill | 08/07/22 01:29 AM |
| 2 | It’s not that looks don’t matterIf looks were such a deal breaker, only attractive men would have been finding attractive girlfriends and wives and reproducing for generations (and the other way round), and the average human being would be by now very attractive, descending from a lineage of attractive ancestors. In reality, people of all shapes, sizes and degrees of attractiveness have been mating for centuries and that's why the average human is just average looking and very attractive people are a minority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:18 AM |
| 2 | It’s not that looks don’t matterIf looks were such a deal breaker, only attractive men would have been finding girlfriends and wives and reproducing for generations, and the average human being would be by now very attractive, descending from a lineage of attractive ancestors. In reality, people of all shapes, sizes and degree of attractiveness have been mating for centuries and that's why the average human is just average looking and very attractive people are a minority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:18 AM |
| 3 | Do women really freak out if they're still single into their 30's-40's?Go to any reddit forum where men discuss women, and then to a forum where women discuss men .. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/07/22 11:44 PM |
| 4 | Do women really freak out if they're still single into their 30's-40's?There's so bad press about women not marrying... precisely because unmarried women can be perfectly happy on their own, so they need to be vilified in order to scare them and give up choosing that kind of life that doesn't benefit men. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/07/22 11:43 PM |
| 13 | Do women really freak out if they're still single into their 30's-40's?Same here, also not in the US and very happy with my now single life. Interestingly, my mother, instead of ever pushing me to marry, always says: "You've been so clever not to marry!". With a bit of envy too .. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/07/22 11:40 PM |
| 2 | Do women really freak out if they're still single into their 30's-40's?It really depends on the woman. The ones I know who are single and childless at those ages and older are very happy and enjoying life a lot, probably because they've chosen that life. Some of them are divorced or separated, other never wanted to marry. They have friends, family, lovers or hookups sometimes, work, hobbies, travels. As opposed to most of the married women I know who are overwhelmed with their children of different ages (babies are exhausting, teenagers very difficult, there's only… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/07/22 11:38 PM |
| 1 | What even is a "good personality"?Great list, I agree! I also realized a bit too late... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 11:29 PM |
| 4 | What even is a "good personality"?Totally, for me that's what defines a good date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 11:28 PM |
| -1 | What even is a "good personality"?Woman here: Funny, comedic, court jester: for me at least, totally no. What I like: Reasonably extrovert but not shallow or histrionic Knows how to keep a balanced conversation, listening and answering without interrupting but also without awkward silences Is not vocal about his political or social ideas Doesn't go on an on about his hobbies Doesn't whine about his exes or work Keeps eye contact without staring Doesn't make sexual comments Is good at texting, with good spelling and respectful. N… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 11:27 PM |
| 4 | Even if personality matters more then looks, that doesn’t make things betterWell, not necessarily. The only man I've known who would more or less respond to the RP definition of Chad is my brother, and he has a really lousy personality riddled with insecurities, to the point that it's almost impossible to talk to him. Having slept with lots of women and found a rather attractive wife doesn't seem to have had much effect on his core personality settings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Even if personality matters more then looks, that doesn’t make things betterI do find him very attractive, and it's not at all because he's famous, I like his body language, the expression in his eyes, and although the current situation doesn't allow for it, I've seen fragments of his tv series from years ago in the Ukrainian tv, and I really loved his sense of humor and intelligence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 11:10 PM |
| 2 | Even if personality matters more then looks, that doesn’t make things betterHere is a little story about personality vs looks I just remembered: Growing up there was a couple of twins in my friend group. Two guys who were practically indistinguishable physically unless you knew them very well. They were short and not at all good looking, also they wore clothes that were not very flattering and weren't too good with personal hygiene. Yet one of them was apparently totally in love with the prettiest girl in our friends group, totally out of his league. Not only he wasn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Women live in 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. This is one of the main drivers of female pickiness.I'm afraid I no longer know which one it was | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Reasons for ignoring texts or delays in responsesAnd a lot of people have long, intensive work schedules during which using a phone is not feasible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 08:56 PM |
| 1 | What is it with women and "exceptions"?Well, I think a lot of the PP ideas are generalizations with little empirical basis, so what you call exceptions are just women telling about their personal experience, which as many things in life, is very varied and doesn't correspond in many cases to abstract generalizations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 08:52 PM |
| 2 | Women are absolutely clueless as to how much more difficult dating is for menIt can be a very comfortable bed if you're financially stable, have friends and relatives for emotional support, hobbies and interests to keep you busy, and no husband or children to worry about. Lots of married women envy the freedom of single women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Women are absolutely clueless as to how much more difficult dating is for menI fully agree about the obesity part.. People who don't know much about this topic tend to think there's just a question of lack of will or wrong choices in food. When, indeed, it depends on so many factors, among others: access to healthy food, educational level understanding nutrition, mental health issues (eating disorders, depression abd agoraphobia for example are very important causes of weight gain), hormonal imbalance, stages of life, effect of medication, injuries or chronic health maki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 08:16 PM |
| 7 | Even if personality matters more then looks, that doesn’t make things betterWell, I don't agree. There are certain things about personality that are very off putting and that can be changed with a bit of effort. In my case, as a woman, I know what things in a man I find unattractive in that regard. Things like constant talking and not listening, or not talking enough, bragging, being loud, making bad jokes, being very vocal about sensitive political or social issues, using sexual innuendos, flirting with other women, talking too much about exes, complaining constantly a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 07:46 PM |
| 2 | Well funded audio-based dating apps have all flopped. That's proof that personality isn't as important as people say it isPeople who pay for apps are mostly men. And men are visual. Whatever preference women has doesn't bring money to the apps, because they don't need to pay for Premium. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 04:38 PM |
| 4 | [Q4W] Do women get as upset if there are all women at a party like guys do if its a sausageparty?I don't know about parties with only men in them (I don't think that happens much where I live), but as a woman, in most of the leisure activities in my city, the percentage of women is about 90%. Like yoga, language classes, hiking etc. Meeting a man in there is almost impossible. Meeting an interesting, unattached man is out of the question. The only place in my city which is about 99% men is my local astronomy club, and the overwhelming presence of men make it a bit uncomfortable for us women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 10:18 AM |
| 1 | Women are absolutely clueless as to how much more difficult dating is for menThat's great. I was just commenting on the chart the OP posted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 10:13 AM |
| 1 | Women are absolutely clueless as to how much more difficult dating is for menWell, I was commenting on the graph you posted. If there's other data I haven't seen yet, I couldn't comment on that one. Interesting what you say about obesity and women on OLD. Although it's difficult to know how the algorithm works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 10:12 AM |
| 2 | Women are absolutely clueless as to how much more difficult dating is for menYes, but men belonging to the same ethnicity than women were rated favourably, which seems to suggest women are looking for long term relationships with men of their ethnicity, which is also what happens in most cases in real life. Whereas many men might be looking for any type of relationship and not be specially worried about ethnicity, and just rating as positive any type of woman above a certain threshold. Black women are also women, so maybe when people write about the success of women in O… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 09:07 AM |
| 2 | Women are absolutely clueless as to how much more difficult dating is for menYour post is very long, I skimmed through it and will try to read it later, but just looking at the chart you posted first, the percentages of women rating men of their own ethnicity are better than most of the percentages of men rating women, and in any case, better than the ratings of black women. I also doubt that average women in real life are the same as average women on OLD, regarding for example obesity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 08:24 AM |
| 3 | According to surveys, among people over 50 women are less interested in dating and relationships than men but among people under 50 women are as interested in dating and relationships as men. What is the reason behind this difference?First of all, I wasn't arguing that younger people now are less savvy than people in their fifties; I was pointing out that those people in their 50s have been using computers for most of their working life and many of them are certainly are very computer savvy; your statement about the mouse does not apply to many of them. By the way, technology has been increasingly dumbed down in recent years, so that the use young people make of phones and tablets, or even computers, is much easier than in p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 09:32 PM |
| 35 | [Q4W] Do women get as upset if there are all women at a party like guys do if its a sausageparty?Sausage party is a negative term. Girls night out or ladies night a very positive one. Food for thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Monkey Branching: The Best Mating Strategy For MenIn which one part was expecting the usual things in a relationship and the other was using her just as a stepping stone climbing the monkey tree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Do most women acknowledge the fact they have very high standards and that the man they want probably has way less and doesn’t ask for much from a woman?That's really hilarious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 08:00 PM |
| 0 | According to surveys, among people over 50 women are less interested in dating and relationships than men but among people under 50 women are as interested in dating and relationships as men. What is the reason behind this difference?Because they've already had enough sex and relationships, plenty of it since a very early age, with multiple partners in many cases. There are other interesting things in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 06:15 PM |
| 3 | According to surveys, among people over 50 women are less interested in dating and relationships than men but among people under 50 women are as interested in dating and relationships as men. What is the reason behind this difference?You really know a tiny sample of 50 somethings. The ones I know are totally different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 06:14 PM |
| 4 | According to surveys, among people over 50 women are less interested in dating and relationships than men but among people under 50 women are as interested in dating and relationships as men. What is the reason behind this difference?OMG! The generation that is 50 now literally invented most of the technology we use now and if they are white collar, have been using computers for over 30 years. Plus they were teenagers and then young people in an age of extreme personal and sexual freedom, in the 70s and 80s. They've been technologically and sexually active for decades now... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 06:12 PM |
| 7 | According to surveys, among people over 50 women are less interested in dating and relationships than men but among people under 50 women are as interested in dating and relationships as men. What is the reason behind this difference?Because it's an absurd male chauvinistic industry. Women go to the movies and watch films/series much more than men, and offering roles to women of all shapes, sizes and ages would be a very good idea even financially, instead of only under 30 eye candy girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 06:07 PM |
| 6 | According to surveys, among people over 50 women are less interested in dating and relationships than men but among people under 50 women are as interested in dating and relationships as men. What is the reason behind this difference?Lots of 50+ single women are in good shape, take good care of their bodies and minds, are psychologically and emotionally fulfilled. Lots of 50+ single men are in very bad emotional and physical shape, have trouble getting erections, are lonely and would make very bad partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 06:04 PM |
| 0 | According to surveys, among people over 50 women are less interested in dating and relationships than men but among people under 50 women are as interested in dating and relationships as men. What is the reason behind this difference?Exactly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 05:57 PM |
| 10 | According to surveys, among people over 50 women are less interested in dating and relationships than men but among people under 50 women are as interested in dating and relationships as men. What is the reason behind this difference?Because men at that age are not looking for women of the same age, they're looking for much younger women, and the only men the 50+ women can find are much older men. Many 50+ women are actively taking care of their parents, maybe after having taken care of their children, and the last thing they want is taking care of yet another elderly person. Plus, a woman who's single/divorced/widowed at 50+ probably has managed to find interesting things to do with her leisure time, has a network of friend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 05:53 PM |
| 3 | Not to take away from what women do, but I do think men do a lot of emotional labor than what’s saidI haven't seen that many posts saying that, I might have missed them. On the other hand, almost daily I read here some deeply mysoginistic post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 05:35 PM |
| 3 | Not to take away from what women do, but I do think men do a lot of emotional labor than what’s saidI don't read every single comment in this subreddit, so there might have been some like that, but also lots in a very different direction, and most women in here are currently/have been in long term relationships with men they appreciate and respect, and post about their experiences with them. To be honest, the incidence of posts in here which express profound disregard and disrespectful for women is much, much higher than the other way round. Posting that a woman can be perfectly happy without … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 05:33 PM |
| 3 | Not to take away from what women do, but I do think men do a lot of emotional labor than what’s saidWomen or some women? In which ways? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 05:13 PM |
| 2 | Not to take away from what women do, but I do think men do a lot of emotional labor than what’s saidNo problem. I understand the professional bias, but I think this forum would benefit from not overgeneralizing about what men and women think, since those stereotypes are very much at the root of the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 05:12 PM |
| 3 | Not to take away from what women do, but I do think men do a lot of emotional labor than what’s saidWow, your first paragraph describes my life right now so well it made me realize how overwhelming it is! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 05:07 PM |
| 7 | Not to take away from what women do, but I do think men do a lot of emotional labor than what’s saidThat's an interesting post, but also quite unfair with the women in this group. I don't think for the most part we're bashing men or being unappreciative of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 05:05 PM |
| 3 | Are relationships transactional?Well, that's obviously not true, if it were, all couples and subsequently only rich men would have girlfriends and wives, which is clearly not the case. Take a walk in a middle class or working class neighborhood and observe the men and women in there | /r/ExRedPill | 06/07/22 10:05 AM |
| 1 | Monkey Branching: The Best Mating Strategy For MenHow so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 09:50 AM |
| 2 | Women live in 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. This is one of the main drivers of female pickiness.There was a rather infamous case where I live of a woman of 45 who complained of abdominal pain... She was married and overweight. She went several times to her doctor, only to be told to take better care of her diet, and that she had flatulence. She thought she was in the perimenopause and her periods were irregular and eventually stopped. Finally, one day the pain was so intense that she and her husband went to the A&E. She was hospitalized because she was already about to give birth.. When sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 02:41 AM |
| 3 | Monkey Branching: The Best Mating Strategy For MenYou however are not using your "ugly starter girlfriends"??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 01:31 AM |
| 16 | Why some men's standards do NOT need to go up.But that's how things have always been for people in societies where marriages are not arranged. Either you try to find somebody which somehow fills some of your expectations, or you just accept anyone that is not too unappealing. Works the same for women and for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 11:48 PM |
| 2 | One common issue i’ve seen here is that people tend to treat dating as some kind of equation or formulaBut the best antidote for that is to have friends or relatives of both genders and not see women as alien beings you need to decipher. Most of the men I've dated had several sisters, and I have a brother of around my own age; that helps hugely in not seeing the opposite gender as something unreachable and mysterious. As does having such friends from a very early age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 11:28 PM |
| 6 | Casual sex or short flings are more likely to be fulfilling for guys than relationship sexI totally agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex or short flings are more likely to be fulfilling for guys than relationship sexAs a woman, I disagree. It's highly improbable that casual sex, specially a one night stand can be satisfying, because woman's sexuality is complex and there's a very small chance a random man will get it right the first time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 11:17 PM |
| 2 | If familiarity kills attraction, do ALL LTR's EVENTUALLY become void of attraction?I would say it's not the familiarity itself, it's the stopping of doing the kind of things that made one felt attracted to the other person in the first place. For example, when you're dating somebody, you make an effort about how you look, what you wear, the conversation topics etc. Expecting the kind of sex or romance you get in that situation to be as exciting as the one you get once you're living together and wear old clothes, don't shower or shave, have the tv on the background and barely t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 10:29 PM |
| 6 | One common issue i’ve seen here is that people tend to treat dating as some kind of equation or formulaI think it comes from lack of experience. Many men have written here that they have very little contact with women in general, and even less so with women in the context of a romantic relationship. So, to decrease their anxiety, they want a "recipe" on how to deal with them. But much as it happens with cooking, you only need recipes when you're a beginner (or trying something totally new); once you know how to cook, you fly solo and are mostly guided by instinct and experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 10:11 PM |
| 2 | Conflicting desires about wanting women with ‘standards’I think probably many men consider that whatever decision a woman takes is wrong unless it is being with him. About the term "settle" which is often thrown around as an insult: unless you know the woman in question perfectly well and have talked with her about what her goals and wishes are, it's very difficult to know if she's taking a wrong decision or just what she thinks it's best for her at that stage of her life. Judging her partner by applying your own criteria (maybe looks, muscles, heigh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 09:57 PM |
| -2 | I see a lot of "call outs" where women wish men would share their emotions more, and now men are pushing back saying when they do, it's weaponized against them. What's the healthy balance?But are men in your opinion good at detecting women's emotions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 09:40 PM |
| 2 | I see a lot of "call outs" where women wish men would share their emotions more, and now men are pushing back saying when they do, it's weaponized against them. What's the healthy balance?I don't want to generalize, but at least in my case and that of most of the women I know, a man who expresses his emotions in a reasonable way is a very attractive person. And a man who never expresses emotions is one of the types of men I would never date. But of course, the key is finding the right balance, and that would apply to any human interaction including friendship. Somebody who's constantly whining, expressing his insatisfaction about whatever is wrong in his life, his hatred or jealo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 09:12 PM |
| 0 | I see a lot of "call outs" where women wish men would share their emotions more, and now men are pushing back saying when they do, it's weaponized against them. What's the healthy balance?You say women are terrible at detecting emotion. Do you think men are better at it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 09:02 PM |
| 0 | I see a lot of "call outs" where women wish men would share their emotions more, and now men are pushing back saying when they do, it's weaponized against them. What's the healthy balance?I agree with you both. There might be some few women who are uncomfortable with men showing emotions, but there are certainly lots of women who feel very deprived because of the incapacity of men in expressing emotion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 09:00 PM |
| 11 | I see a lot of "call outs" where women wish men would share their emotions more, and now men are pushing back saying when they do, it's weaponized against them. What's the healthy balance?It's a wonderful book, I read it last month. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Regarding rising 'sexlessness,' percentage of young people who've never had sex or a relationship do you think have never even made an effort?I guess expensive matchmakers would probably have among their customers women of a similar level of income as you, so that the fear of becoming a provider wouldn't be that much of an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksApart from the first thing, which could easily be solved by hiring someone if one isn't able to do it on her own, the two other things are no longer something that applies to all couples. Lots of women make more money than their men and initiate courting and the rest of things. I'm one of those women, including the gardening and snow shovelling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 07:48 PM |
| 3 | Do most women acknowledge the fact they have very high standards and that the man they want probably has way less and doesn’t ask for much from a woman?Totally absurd reasoning when talking about something as trivial as the color of underwear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Women live in 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. This is one of the main drivers of female pickiness.Romanticism is not altruism at all, it's a rather selfish emotion. Mind blowing sex is not that frequent. And even when you get it, it doesn't necessarily lead to self destruction. I've had such great sex for many years and have never done any crazy things because of it. Nor do I know anyone having destroyed their lives because of good sex. But I do believe you when you say you know such women, it's just very strange you know so many of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Do most women acknowledge the fact they have very high standards and that the man they want probably has way less and doesn’t ask for much from a woman?Really??? I hope you're joking... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 04:05 AM |
| 1 | Regarding rising 'sexlessness,' percentage of young people who've never had sex or a relationship do you think have never even made an effort?Of course, it would be absurd to try and risk initiating something as a woman with somebody you didn't want...As men in here so often say, there's plenty of choice for women, so taking the risk of a rejection is only a good strategy is you're very interested in one particular man. I thought many men in here were criticizing women for settling with something called betas??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 04:04 AM |
| 3 | Regarding rising 'sexlessness,' percentage of young people who've never had sex or a relationship do you think have never even made an effort?Haha, not British though I might have let some British spelling slip in there somewhere. But I'm European, and yes, definitely it seems over here things are much easier. It seems in my country, the vast majority of people between 19 and 26 have had sexual and romantic relationships and are sexually active. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 03:59 AM |
| 2 | Regarding rising 'sexlessness,' percentage of young people who've never had sex or a relationship do you think have never even made an effort?I agree, but then I don't live in the US. Looking back, I met all the men I dated over the past few years doing some type of activity: amateur theater, hiking, travel, language classes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 03:55 AM |
| 2 | Regarding rising 'sexlessness,' percentage of young people who've never had sex or a relationship do you think have never even made an effort?Amateur dramatics meant for me meeting lots of men, two of them romantically very important and one that became my long term partner. Plus most of the friends I have now.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 03:51 AM |
| -1 | Regarding rising 'sexlessness,' percentage of young people who've never had sex or a relationship do you think have never even made an effort?Of course it happens. It would be difficult to find a girl or woman that hasn't been rejected by a man she wanted, or that hasn't experienced unrequited love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Regarding rising 'sexlessness,' percentage of young people who've never had sex or a relationship do you think have never even made an effort?And women get rejected too, even pretty ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 03:42 AM |
| 2 | Regarding rising 'sexlessness,' percentage of young people who've never had sex or a relationship do you think have never even made an effort?Why are you rejecting those Italian and Spanish girls? People from Southern Europe (I'm one) have nowadays a much more relaxed attitude to sex and relationships and you could have a great time and learn about sex. But then you say you don't feel anything about girls, and you and your friends seem to be rejecting the offers you get... Some ideas come to mind about what might be happening there... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 03:40 AM |
| 1 | Regarding rising 'sexlessness,' percentage of young people who've never had sex or a relationship do you think have never even made an effort?There was a man here a while ago who also seemed to have a very good income, and I recommended to him to try and find a personalized match making service. I don't know exactly where they are, but I know they exist and are rather expensive, but undoubtedly more efficient than apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 03:35 AM |
| 1 | Women live in 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. This is one of the main drivers of female pickiness.But in your comment you're mixing up references to sex and being sex crazy to women being crazy about a man. Those are very different things. A woman can be madly in love with a man and do crazy stuff because of him even if the sex is not good at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Women live in 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. This is one of the main drivers of female pickiness.Have you literally seen them doing what exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 03:19 AM |
| 3 | Women live in 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. This is one of the main drivers of female pickiness.That's absolutely not true as proved by the many women I know who had perfectly healthy kids in their forties, including my mother, my sister and my best friend. Through very natural ways, aka, sex. It's more difficult, yes, and the risks are greater, but it's still very possible. I checked and at 40, the possibility of a pregnancy is 20%. In any case, your initial statement if a woman producing an egg per month and stopping producing them around 35 is totally wrong. Eggs are formed during the f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 03:11 AM |
| 2 | Women live in 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. This is one of the main drivers of female pickiness.And you really believe that to be true? Unless it's a psychiatric condition and they are nymphomaniacs, no woman has such big interest in men's bodies. But they can get intensely in love which is a totally different thing and has nothing or very little to do to do with their dicks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Women live in 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. This is one of the main drivers of female pickiness.Wow!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 03:05 AM |
| 4 | How do I get this anti women stuff out of my head? I’m paranoid of everything a girl doesTwo very good books I've read recently tackling this type of issues: The will to change, by bell hooks Toxic Masculinity, by Stephen Whitehead | /r/ExRedPill | 05/07/22 01:40 AM |
| 0 | Ex red pill woman here- I feel like I am not humanRape fantasies are totally normal and very usual. Don't be scared. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/07/22 01:30 AM |
| 2 | Ex red pill woman here- I feel like I am not humanI think you're very young and maybe you're mixing up fantasy and reality. It's perfectly fine to have fantasies of submission, and they can be great for masturbation or role playing during sex. But in real life, a young, intelligent woman like you shouldn't feel inferior to any man. I would suggest, for now, that you move those ideas of submission into the private garden of your fantasies and use them to pleasure yourself. And maybe, when you're a bit older and have more experience from mainstre… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/07/22 01:28 AM |
| 2 | Women live in 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. This is one of the main drivers of female pickiness.Most men, or rather men of around your age and above a certain threshold of attractiveness? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:18 AM |
| 3 | Women live in 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. This is one of the main drivers of female pickiness.I really think that men who believe "women would ruin their lives for a penis" should talk to real women a bit more. I've only heard that kind of expression from men, never from women. I even got it addressed to me about a very intense love affair I had, and denied it of course, which wasn't believed by the person who had said it. The penis in question in this love affair was the most irrelevant aspect of it all. But of course, one needs to have experienced intense love to understand it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:17 AM |
| 2 | Women live in 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. This is one of the main drivers of female pickiness.That's absolutely absurd and it if were true, prostitutes would be the happiest women ever. Which they aren't. Also you go on and on about dicks, where in truth a great proportion of women don't get much pleasure from penetrative sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:11 AM |
| 2 | Women live in 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. This is one of the main drivers of female pickiness.Quite often, women can be multiorgasmic. Something the overwhelming majority of men can't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:07 AM |
| 5 | Women live in 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. This is one of the main drivers of female pickiness.30 to 35??? Most women don't reach menopause till their fifties, and increasingly more women are choosing to get pregnant in their forties. And the complete set of eggs in a woman appears during her fetal stage, and no new eggs are produced during her life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:06 AM |
| 30 | Women live in 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. This is one of the main drivers of female pickiness.I recently saw a video where a trans man commented on how surprised he was at seeing the world under the influence of testosterone when he started transitioning. Constant sexual arousal was mentioned, but also loneliness and feelings of anger he never had experienced before as a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:03 AM |
| 3 | Red Pill is a useful temporary medicineRegarding lifting, I was very sceptical about all those type of advices about gym etc (probably because I don't like that type of men). Yet lately I read something very interesting in a science journal. It seems that testosterone levels have been increasingly declining in the Western world, and activities like lifting increase testosterone secretion, which, in turn, makes men more self confident and bold in their relationships with women. Of course, an excess in testosterone can also lead to inc… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/07/22 08:40 PM |
| 2 | Do most women acknowledge the fact they have very high standards and that the man they want probably has way less and doesn’t ask for much from a woman?The stats for my country are very positive, a bit like those: only around 20% of young people aren't sexually active, with no significant differences between men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 08:34 PM |
| 3 | Do most women acknowledge the fact they have very high standards and that the man they want probably has way less and doesn’t ask for much from a woman?Wow, that comment suddenly explains what this thread is all about. Rest of guys reading here: definitely learn to cook. There are few things sexier than a man cooking for you as a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Do most women acknowledge the fact they have very high standards and that the man they want probably has way less and doesn’t ask for much from a woman?There's a case I know of a man ghosting a friend of mine because she wasn't wearing matching underwear the first time they slept together. He was about ten years older than her, much less educated (highschool graduate vs two university degrees), much less good looking and much less fit.... When my friend told me, the only thing I could say to her was good riddance... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 08:24 PM |
| 3 | Do most women acknowledge the fact they have very high standards and that the man they want probably has way less and doesn’t ask for much from a woman?Women are not usually leaving a marriage because there's somebody else. They usually leave because of unsolved emotional issues. When infidelity is the cause, it's more often infidelity on the man's side, which once discovered, leads to the women taking the decision to leave: https://www.itsovereasy.com/insights/causes-of-divorce https://www.michaelarobbins.com/blog/2021/09/how-many-people-divorce-because-of-infidelity/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Do most women acknowledge the fact they have very high standards and that the man they want probably has way less and doesn’t ask for much from a woman?Well, my own "high standards" are just common sense requirements for a person I would like to enjoy spending time with: somebody with intelligence, including emotional and sexual intelligence; who won't lie/cheat/exploit/ghost me; for whom conversation means both listening and talking (instead of not listening or not being able to say a word); who takes a bit of care about his appearance and has interesting things to say, and is unattached. It would help too if we live in the same city and if he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 08:14 PM |
| 2 | Red Pill is a useful temporary medicineBut is this a general trend in all of Asia, or just some women in some specific countries? I wonder for example about very big countries like India or China. Are Indian and Chinese women rejecting the men from their own countries in favor of men from elsewhere in large, statistically significant numbers? By the way, that generalization also applies to what you write about women changing their aspect to fit "Eurocentric" standards. There are millions of women in Southern and Central Europe who ar… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/07/22 07:54 PM |
| 0 | Red Pill is a useful temporary medicineI really recommend Whitehead's book "Toxic masculinity". It's a pity he chose that title which might put off some men. He includes a chapter about safe spaces for men in the US and Europe. Reading about one such group in my country made me really wish to meet those men... and maybe date one of them 😉😉. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/07/22 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Red Pill is a useful temporary medicineI think anyone, pill or no pill, will agree that a certain degree of physical attraction is an element of sexual and romantic relationships. But that physical attraction varies wildly between people, and what certainly is not true is that there's a universal rating system inside people's minds that systematically chooses some way of looking and discard others. That might well happen in the very artificial (and probably rigged) online dating apps scenario, but not in real life: the proof is that … | /r/ExRedPill | 04/07/22 06:10 PM |
| 2 | Sex and datingWell, thanks a lot for that!, it certainly sheds a lot of light on the discussions here. I don't agree with most of it, but at least it gives me a theoretical background. It really boils down to feelings of insecurity (of being cheated, compared to, not given the same treatment than previous men) and competition between males. My personal opinion is that a (moderate) degree of previous emotional and sexual experience on both sides is a good ground for a grown up relationship. None of the two wil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 06:00 PM |
| 6 | Red Pill is a useful temporary medicineThe idea of safe spaces is indeed very valid, though I really don't think red pill communities are the best place for that, since they reinforce very negative beliefs about women which will exacerbate whatever problem the men had beforehand. I've been reading recently of other type of groups through the books of Stephen Whitehead. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/07/22 05:49 PM |
| 2 | Sex and datingI think for many of us women, sexual pleasure is something we need to learn and discover, it's not as obvious as for men. With discovery, both through masturbation and sex with partners, we learn also about our capacity for pleasure. Becoming multiorgasmic, for example, is not something that very young women would typically discover. Also, many young women have issues with their bodies; body disphoria and eating disorders are very common among girls and young women, and that can seriously dimini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 03:16 PM |
| 2 | Is it true that women get their hearts broken by good-looking men in their youth and then settle down with nice average looking guys when they're done with the toxicity?Well, thanks a lot for that, I'm not used to getting any positive feedback here at all! 🤗🤗 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 01:48 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that women get their hearts broken by good-looking men in their youth and then settle down with nice average looking guys when they're done with the toxicity?I certainly will keep on listening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 01:39 PM |
| 2 | What's the consensus here about women approaching men?Cold approaching would be approaching somebody in a bar, party whatever and behaving in a way making clear you're interested in them. Initiating as I understand it is changing the course of an interaction into something romantic/sexual with somebody you already know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 01:09 PM |
| 2 | Is it true that women get their hearts broken by good-looking men in their youth and then settle down with nice average looking guys when they're done with the toxicity?Maybe Europe is too wide a concept, I've lived in quite a few countries in Europe and there are huge differences from country to country. In my (Southern European) country, according to the statistics I posted here last week, that's not the case. According to those statistics, which I posted last week, in my country around 85% of people under 25 do have sexual experiences on a regular basis. I don't know what the experience of online dating is for young people though, it might be that it is inde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 01:07 PM |
| 21 | Red Pill is a useful temporary medicineBut were those childish ideas dispelled by anything you learned through the red pill? Wouldn't contact with real life women be a better teaching method than ideas from other men who might be as inexperienced as yourself? | /r/ExRedPill | 04/07/22 10:29 AM |
| 13 | Red Pill is a useful temporary medicineBut being in shape both physically and financially is good advice for anyone, men or women alike, and there's nothing revolutionary in that. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/07/22 10:27 AM |
| 1 | Debate On PPD Is Not PossibleBeing a scientist, I try to often post links to statistics or articles backing up my points, they are in most cases ignored. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 09:45 AM |
| 7 | Debate On PPD Is Not PossibleWell, also when a woman in here like me tries to explain how herself and her woman friends behave in terms of dating, sex, love and relationships, her opinion is very often discarded as irrelevant. Also, when statistics or articles are provided as proof, they're often also discarded as irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 09:43 AM |
| 32 | Red Pill is a useful temporary medicineAs a woman I would be very interested in knowing what parts of the red pill ideas you find useful and why. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/07/22 09:38 AM |
| 2 | Q4M. Do you imagine vivid images about your partner past(or even just possible) experience?Fair enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 09:29 AM |
| 1 | What is your advice for the underwhelming man?Well, I'm sure there was a time when SG was young and not famous and might still have had success with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 09:29 AM |
| 2 | Q4M. Do you imagine vivid images about your partner past(or even just possible) experience?But as women we might be having those thoughts about the past of our boyfriends, or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 09:27 AM |
| 3 | Jan 6th Hearing Mega-ThreadYes, I find it baffling too. Where I live, everyone has an ID card and is automatically including in the voter lists, and the most you can wait at your voting site is ten minutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 09:26 AM |
| 2 | Is it true that women get their hearts broken by good-looking men in their youth and then settle down with nice average looking guys when they're done with the toxicity?I don't know, my own personal Heathcliff was not at all conventionally good looking. And I had much better looking men around and interested in me when I was under his spell, and I didn't take notice of them at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 09:24 AM |
| 3 | What's the consensus here about women approaching men?I'm not sure about approaching, but I've done quite a lot of initiating, and it is really empowering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 09:23 AM |
| 2 | Sex and datingWell, you seem to have a very clear idea of why more experienced women wouldn't be such a good choice for you, and that in itself is very good, compared to other men in here who are quite irrational when dismissing the idea of sleeping with experienced women and just using some insulting word or other for them. Your reasons seem rational and well thought out. Being a straight woman who has never had sex with another woman I cannot know if things would happen the way you describe, and the only sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 09:21 AM |
| 2 | What's the consensus here about women approaching men?But the same would happen for them if the person approaching was considered attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 08:51 AM |
| 1 | Sex and datingI'm not saying you're doing anything wrong at all, I was just arguing that lack of sex experience is not correlated with more pleasure (in women), and that it's often the other way round. As for knowing when a woman fakes... well, respectfully, it's really difficult if we do it well. As proved by the fact that most women say they have faked it sometime, and most men say women have never faked with them... Maybe you're very good at telling the difference, but clearly many men aren't. The open com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 12:32 AM |
| 5 | Jan 6th Hearing Mega-ThreadFrom outside the US, it's very difficult to understand you consider yourselves the greatest democracy and still have that electoral college thing and such limited voting rights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 12:19 AM |
| 12 | What's the consensus here about women approaching men?Interesting how many men in this thread find it uncomfortable when they are approached by women they don't find attractive, yet very often in here women are criticized for being cold or reject approaches from men they don't like. Even though in the case of women these cold approaches might happen very often and be very annoying, and in the case of men it is quite infrequent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Dating is not fun for men, but is for womenWell, not everywhere. I certainly don't expect any man to pay for anything for me, or at least, not in any degree exceeding what I myself pay for us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Sex and datingThere's a third possibility, and that is that quite a lot of women fake both their interest and their orgasms... I'm sure that's not your case, but it's quite frequent... By the way, the example you give of inexperienced men coming soon is precisely an example of how lack of experience can lead to bad sex.. I think a reasonable amount of experience can lead to a woman understanding her body much better, knowing how to find pleasure, be relaxed and imaginative. That doesn't need to imply having s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Women claim that men in reality do not care about how slutty a girl has been in her past, but then they also go on to defend women lying about their past to not get judged from men, don't these claims contradict each other?A guy having slept himself with how many women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Women claim that men in reality do not care about how slutty a girl has been in her past, but then they also go on to defend women lying about their past to not get judged from men, don't these claims contradict each other?Well, unless he himself hadn't had much experience with women, it's rather unfair to except something like that from a woman, and undoubtedly a double standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 09:50 PM |
| 3 | Is it true that women get their hearts broken by good-looking men in their youth and then settle down with nice average looking guys when they're done with the toxicity?Again a very intelligent post, I'm glad to read such posts in here, it's not often the case. I guess a bit of trial and error cannot be avoided, but listening to other people's experience can also help to avoid certain mistakes. In my case, for example, I have a younger sister, and she certainly learned a lot from my mistakes and avoided some of them. I'm afraid I don't see around me that desert landscape for young men, but then, I live in Europe and I'm beginning to suspect that's a rather Amer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 09:46 PM |
| 3 | Would limiting choice in online dating make it more effective?There's a series about this, but I cannot remember the title. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Would limiting choice in online dating make it more effective?Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Would limiting choice in online dating make it more effective?Good idea, although I'm convinced that apps are designed not to work in helping you find a suitable partner. As a woman, something I would definitely introduce would be short videos where the person had to speak, introduce themselves, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:15 PM |
| 2 | Q4M. Do you imagine vivid images about your partner past(or even just possible) experience?Why is this question only for men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:10 PM |
| 4 | What is your advice for the underwhelming man?It is true that he's not good looking, but there's also a lot of things about the way he presents (clothes, hair, skin, weight, even facial expression) that could be improved easily. And then of course he should be realistic about his chances and not aim too high to extremely attractive girls. As a woman looking like him should also need to do. Also learning about how to relate to women and women's sexuality would help him, since if he got very good in dates and in bed he could overcome some of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:03 PM |
| 7 | Dating is not fun for men, but is for womenIt really baffles me that you think most men are able to "entertain women and feed them caviar and ice cream". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:42 PM |
| 3 | Why is it when men don't go down on a woman, they're unacceptably selfish lovers, but when women don't go down, it's an acceptable choice for something she doesn't enjoy doing?And they would be wise to not care about your happiness or satisfaction either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:22 PM |
| 4 | I always wondered this about redpillers...I think polygamy is probably the worst deal for men, because women will become an even scarcer resource and many men won't have access at all to them. Watch the excellent Netflix documentary "Keep sweet". | /r/ExRedPill | 03/07/22 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Sex and datingI wonder why you think that sexually experienced women would have it more difficult to experience pleasure with you. It's usually the other way around, the more experience a woman has, the easier it is for her to enjoy sex and have orgasms. You don't need to be "the best" at anything to enjoy what you're doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:14 PM |
| 25 | Is it true that women get their hearts broken by good-looking men in their youth and then settle down with nice average looking guys when they're done with the toxicity?As a woman, I find your post very sensible and something I would like more young men here would take into account. My only caveat is that I'm not sure that all young women care so much about looks when making those initial wrong choices. There might be other reasons. For example, in my case (and I've seen quite a few other such cases) it was the "mysterious, dangerous, distant" paradigm (the "Heathcliff paradigm"); later in life I've learned to appreciate much more men who are the opposite of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:57 PM |
| 9 | Is it true that women get their hearts broken by good-looking men in their youth and then settle down with nice average looking guys when they're done with the toxicity?What might be true for men and women alike is that after having had very bad experiences at the beginning of their dating life, their "radar" improves and start valuing more things like kindness, empathy etc later in life. But those initial bad experiences don't need to be associated with good looking people at all . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:43 PM |
| 4 | Is it true that women get their hearts broken by good-looking men in their youth and then settle down with nice average looking guys when they're done with the toxicity?Agree. The most toxic men I've encountered were not at all good looking or successful and projected their anger into women for not wanting them and into other men for being successful where they weren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:40 PM |
| 2 | Why is it when men don't go down on a woman, they're unacceptably selfish lovers, but when women don't go down, it's an acceptable choice for something she doesn't enjoy doing?Well, I don't think your partners if you have them will be very happy with being called selfish for wanting an orgasm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:37 PM |
| 6 | Why is it when men don't go down on a woman, they're unacceptably selfish lovers, but when women don't go down, it's an acceptable choice for something she doesn't enjoy doing?As many other things in life, sexual dynamics inside a couple evolve with time, and a man who might have been kind a generous with a woman during the early times might change his behavior later to selfish and routine. You have this very strange idea that women don't need satisfying sex once they're married, I don't know where that comes from but it's wrong. They might not want boring, exclusively piv sex which doesn't include an orgasm for herself and lasting ten minutes on a Saturday night, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 03:35 PM |
| 2 | Why is it when men don't go down on a woman, they're unacceptably selfish lovers, but when women don't go down, it's an acceptable choice for something she doesn't enjoy doing?I wonder if the person posting this is one of those complaining here they cannot find a girlfriend and being very surprised and hurt at his lack of success... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 03:30 PM |
| 4 | Women claim that men in reality do not care about how slutty a girl has been in her past, but then they also go on to defend women lying about their past to not get judged from men, don't these claims contradict each other?Tiny sample of which probably a lot of them are men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 12:46 PM |
| -1 | Women claim that men in reality do not care about how slutty a girl has been in her past, but then they also go on to defend women lying about their past to not get judged from men, don't these claims contradict each other?Men shouldn't care, but sadly some of them will, as proved by the many people posting here Rather than lying, I think between adults there's no need to go in detail about your past sexual experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 12:42 PM |
| 12 | I always wondered this about redpillers...Polygamy is illegal in most countries, and polyamory won't suit their tastes because one of the things they dread is experienced women comparing them to previous lovers. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/07/22 12:39 PM |
| 3 | Why is it when men don't go down on a woman, they're unacceptably selfish lovers, but when women don't go down, it's an acceptable choice for something she doesn't enjoy doing?Well, some women might think it's "their duty" to please the man. Or feel ashamed about the look, smell or taste of their sex. And some do come from penetrative sex. I've been in all of those cases in different stages of my life, so I can relate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 12:08 PM |
| 4 | Why is it when men don't go down on a woman, they're unacceptably selfish lovers, but when women don't go down, it's an acceptable choice for something she doesn't enjoy doing?Or very experienced women like me who find what you write totally absurd. Probably you have a kind of energy that attracts emotionally damaged women who either expect that behavior or don't know how to say no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 12:06 PM |
| 2 | Why are men in redpill are obsessed with women?I think there are several types in those groups. a) Very inexperienced young boys who never have dated and have little contact with women, but watch a lot of porn, so of course sex is constantly in their heads. b) Older men who have been unsuccessful at dating or relationships. c) Divorced or separated men. There are a few who proclaim to have a lot of success with women, but I somehow doubt it. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/07/22 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Is it really this complicated?Well, try to meet women organically in places where they go to. It depends from place to place, you'll need to do a bit of research. And never rush into asking a woman's number, talk to her, don't seem eager. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 10:06 AM |
| 9 | Why is it when men don't go down on a woman, they're unacceptably selfish lovers, but when women don't go down, it's an acceptable choice for something she doesn't enjoy doing?A lot of men love the smell of a woman's sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 10:03 AM |
| 4 | Why is it when men don't go down on a woman, they're unacceptably selfish lovers, but when women don't go down, it's an acceptable choice for something she doesn't enjoy doing?Even if that were true: how much satisfying sex leading to orgasm will that woman get? Sex not limited to penetration? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 10:01 AM |
| 5 | Why is it when men don't go down on a woman, they're unacceptably selfish lovers, but when women don't go down, it's an acceptable choice for something she doesn't enjoy doing?I fully agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 10:00 AM |
| 7 | Why is it when men don't go down on a woman, they're unacceptably selfish lovers, but when women don't go down, it's an acceptable choice for something she doesn't enjoy doing?That worship idea is really ludicrous. And the idea of forcing it can be against the law in many places. Both of them arise from porn. The rule of not going on a woman first is absurd. Pleasuring a woman first is one of the strategies sex therapists recommend, since women typically take much longer to reach orgasm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 09:57 AM |
| 1 | Why is it when men don't go down on a woman, they're unacceptably selfish lovers, but when women don't go down, it's an acceptable choice for something she doesn't enjoy doing?I agree. Despite what porn shows, there's really no pleasure involved in giving oral to a man,. however a lot of men enjoy the taste and smell of a woman and can get very aroused from it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 09:55 AM |
| 3 | Why is it when men don't go down on a woman, they're unacceptably selfish lovers, but when women don't go down, it's an acceptable choice for something she doesn't enjoy doing?Although I agree that's a double standard, there's also a difference: men are almost sure to get an orgasm from penetrative sex, many women aren't. So, men who won't perform oral sex or try to make women reach an orgasm otherwise (through masturbation, using toys etc) are indeed being selfish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 09:51 AM |
| 1 | Why is it when men don't go down on a woman, they're unacceptably selfish lovers, but when women don't go down, it's an acceptable choice for something she doesn't enjoy doing?Exactly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 09:49 AM |
| 1 | Is it really this complicated?Well, if I were you I would definitely listen to us "fish", aka women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Is it really this complicated?You're right about dancing..I started seeing a guy three years ago, he was in general very nice and we got along very well, and after a couple of dates I was planning to make things move forward... until he took me to his dancing place, where he went very often. So many gorgeous women flirting with him and he with them, I realized what I was getting myself into and stopped seeing him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Is it really this complicated?I think you're going to face a lot of rejections that way. I'm sorry because you sound nice, but it's a very wrong method. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 01:18 AM |
| 3 | Is it really this complicated?Acting!!! Yes. I met most of the important men in my life from a certain moment onwards in my theater group. Even two of the most important ones on the same day, after months or years of not finding anyone interesting elsewhere. And there were so many interesting social activities relating to the group that I made lots of friends too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Is it really this complicated?Because as women we get cold approaches like that constantly and we have developed an automatic defense mechanism against them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Is it really this complicated?And listening to her! For me that's the sexiest thing a man can do: listen actively and remember what I told him next time we meet. And the most off-putting thing is talking non stop or not remembering any of our previous conversations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 01:13 AM |
| 1 | Is it really this complicated?Yes to the part about looks, manners etc. No to the part about walking to somebody and asking their number; cold approaches like that don't usually work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 01:09 AM |
| 2 | True or false, women on this sub are more likely NOT representative of the majority of the population but the men on here ARESame here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 12:39 AM |
| 2 | True or false, women on this sub are more likely NOT representative of the majority of the population but the men on here AREExactly. And some of us are writers, professors, journalists, interested in the red pill ideology and trying to understand it. Which has absolutely nothing to do with how attractive we are or our love/sex lives | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 12:38 AM |
| 1 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)You really have very little knowledge of the kind of sex and relationships normal women want and will remember during their entire life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 12:31 AM |
| 1 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)4 minutes in vagina suddenly explains a lot of what I've been reading here lately... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 12:26 AM |
| 3 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)Do you think the average man is attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 12:25 AM |
| 19 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksLots of men have very low risk jobs and they also have shorter life spans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 11:56 PM |
| 7 | How RP affects my relationship, as a womanI think it would be good for you to be open to more feminist ideas about accepting your body and move past that very poisonous and childish red pill ideology, which is very harmful to both women and men. Specially the obsession about finding relationships or not, there's something deeply materialistic and greedy there. As women, we have to accept our bodies and our sexuality as something that belongs to us and which nobody else has the right to judge or criticize. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/07/22 10:33 PM |
| 46 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksExactly, the dreaded "double shift". Add to that maybe lack of communication, a careless sex life not attentive to women's needs, maybe a demeaning attitude. I read once that the quality of life of men increases significantly with marriage and decreases very much for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 10:28 PM |
| 24 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksFrom your own link: "Perhaps women were more likely to initiate divorces because, as Rosenfeld found, married women reported lower levels of relationship quality than married men" "I think that marriage as an institution has been a little bit slow to catch up with expectations for gender equality," Rosenfeld said. "Wives still take their husbands' surnames, and are sometimes pressured to do so. Husbands still expect their wives to do the bulk of the housework and the bulk of the childcare" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 10:25 PM |
| 8 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksIn countries such as mine where alimony to wives able to work is unheard of and most young couples often choose a system by which they keep separate incomes which won't be split during divorce, still it's women who initiate most separation and divorce procedures. So clearly it's not a financial reason at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?I am sorry this has happened to you, but I'm not entirely sure this wouldn't happen to a woman as well.. I'm very surprised at women saying such things, I've never encountered that kind of women and wonder what kind of situations lead to such exchanges. Saying a guy he's kind and gentle but not physically attractive for a certain woman, yes, that I can understand (and again, it happens to us women too). Saying to him to "kill himself" or that "he doesn't deserve basic decency" is difficult to im… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:47 PM |
| 3 | I can’t be the only one who loves strong womenYour story is really heart breaking, but I think you were lucky it ended that way and you could get rid of him. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/07/22 05:20 PM |
| 7 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?Access to education and health, equality among men and women, decrease of influence of religion, representative democracy (without the absurd American system of the electoral college), voting rights, much lower degree of violence and crime, reproductive and LGTB rights, literacy, number of days of paid holidays and maternity) paternity leaves, etc etc. All of Western Europe to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?I didn't agree to a racist comment at all, you didn't understand what we were discussing. The question was for whom had got things worse in the last 50 years, and yes, probably that was the only group who might have lost power. It was the opposite of racism. If you think your ramblings are better than a source from the UN, well, there's no way I can contradict you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 07:31 PM |
| 7 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?As single women, not spinsters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 07:26 PM |
| 3 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?Agree!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 07:23 PM |
| 5 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?Well, I guess you're referring to an extremely subset of very young girls. All of us who are women and have male friends, boyfriends, husbands, lovers, FwB, fathers, brothers, male children, male coworkers, etc, whom we love and respect don't belong in that group. And we're the overwhelming majority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 07:22 PM |
| 2 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?That's a fantasy arising probably from porn and men-only forums that has no correlation with reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 07:20 PM |
| 4 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?Expect what your father or grandfather had: certainly not, because society is constantly changing. Give up on relationships: not necessarily. Try to find what your target audience wants: maybe. Lots of women would like to find a kind, empathetic man with whom to share life struggles in an equal way, and who would be willing to offer satisfying sex and friendship. However, lots of men keep insisting on offering things many women are not interested in, like muscles, a demeaning attitude, one night… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 07:17 PM |
| 52 | “Women peak at 18, men peak at 50” does anyone else find this extremely creepy, delusional, and hypocritical?The idea of there being "peaks" is laughable in itself. Peaks for what? A young woman such as yourself (or myself when I was your age) might find that the "peak" she wants to reach is a high level of education, financial stability, a good job, a good emotional network of friends and family, hobbies to keep her entertained, new experiences such as traveling or sports, whatever. A man might find however that a "peak" for a 19 year old is to be willing to sleep with him and carry his children. Very… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/06/22 07:12 PM |
| 0 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?https://news.un.org/en/story/2015/10/513142-women-worldwide-live-longer-healthier-lives-better-education-says-new-un-report And accusing me of racism is totally unjustified, I haven't posted anything suggesting it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?That's a very biased point of view which doesn't correspond at all with reality. Have you asked all those groups if they would prefer to live in the 60s? About women: https://news.un.org/en/story/2015/10/513142-women-worldwide-live-longer-healthier-lives-better-education-says-new-un-report | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?Again, from religion not society. Society encouraged young boys to lose their virginity with prostitutes and married men to keep mistresses. Any such behavior from women was forbidden and could entail terrible consequences for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 06:15 PM |
| 3 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?I did read your post and it seems very naïve of you to think people adhered to religious rules in that way. Brothels have been existing and tolerated for millennia, and I'm sure they didn't only admit widows: prenuptial and postnuptial chastity is incompatible with the existence of them. And men having mistresses has also been a very current and well-known fact even in very religious societies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 05:00 PM |
| 3 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?Birth control before the pill was very rudimentary, not efficient and used mostly by sex workers. Women getting educated and joining the work force massively didn't happen till the 60s. Christianity is not the only religion playing a role nowadays in Europe. Yes, a lot of people are leaving it, luckily, but other religions are increasing due to immigration. I won't say much more about it in order to keep politically correct, but anyone living in Europe knows what I'm talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 04:44 PM |
| 2 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?That's right. For the rest of groups in society (women, racial and sexual minorities, children, the elderly) life has some significantly improved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 04:41 PM |
| 4 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?Religion might have expected it, society didn't. Celibacy in Catholic priests has led to a horrible string of pedophile abuse, so it wasn't a good idea anyhow | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 04:40 PM |
| 7 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?But men couldn't care less and for the whole history of humanity visited prostitutes and in recent history, kept mistresses if they could afford it. Or resorted to polygamy. Pythagoras has absolutely nothing to do with Abrahamic religion, he was a Greek philosopher. And whatever his ideas were, they were wild guesses since he had no accurate information on human biology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 04:18 PM |
| 5 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?An observation based on previous civilizations where some essential elements, like birth control, women's education, technology and the gradual disappearance of religious beliefs thanks to science and education were not happening or even envisaged. I really don't think Western Europe for example, where religious and sexual freedoms are prevalent, can be considered a civilization in decline. If anything, the forces that could drive it towards it are precisely the opposite of what Unwin considers,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 04:13 PM |
| 20 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?Live green doesn't mean at all live in the countryside, where cars are used constantly, agricultura relies heavily on pesticides, cattle breeding on antibiotics, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 04:09 PM |
| 2 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?Not only France, most of Western Europe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 04:08 PM |
| 11 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?Other countries have already surpassed the US in prosperity already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 04:07 PM |
| 3 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?Sexual restraint even back then was only expected from women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 04:06 PM |
| 5 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?Worse for whom? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 04:06 PM |
| 0 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?A book from 1934, that's to say, a time when fascism was on the rise and women had still very little freedom, plus birth control had not been invented yet.... Monogamy still remains the norm in most Western countries, which in most cases (not sure about the US taking into account recent events) have unprecedented levels of welfare, prosperity and education. Prenuptial chastity was even in the past only expected from women, men on the other hand were expected to gather experience before marriage,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?That would definitely explain a lot of what's happening. On the other hand, it could also offer a bit of hope, since it indicates the state of affairs is not something irreversible, but very much dependant on sociological conditions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 02:45 PM |
| 4 | Why would a girl be interested in me?Wonderful post! | /r/ExRedPill | 28/06/22 02:19 PM |
| 19 | Why would a girl be interested in me?I checked a few weeks ago, and it's incredibly low, something like 10%. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/06/22 02:19 PM |
| 8 | Why would a girl be interested in me?Online dating apps are not representative of life, only a minority of women use them and they're flooded with requests. A better test is to go out and see what kind of people are in relationships, either by observing couples in real life scenarios or by checking statistics. All kinds of men, with very different levels of attractiveness, do find girlfriends or wives. And I post as a woman in several of those pills groups, and most women are respectful of men posting, unless they word their posts … | /r/ExRedPill | 28/06/22 02:18 PM |
| 3 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?I think over here society is much more fluid, interpersonal relationships are easy and above all people live much more outside their houses and away from the internet. Young people are in most cases very socialized, going out several days a week (probably from Thursday to Sunday) to be together, drink (often too much and at too young an age, sadly), dance and have a good time. There's excellent public transport everywhere, so going to places is easy (a sharp contrast to my memories as a teenager… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 02:09 PM |
| 2 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?Spain. This is a study of sexual behavior among young people between 16 and 25, from 2019. I wouldn't be surprised if things are very different in the US; people here socialize very much and don't rely so much on OLD: Summarized translation first, original Spanish and link below (two different passages): Have you ever had penetrative sex? 73,4 % of young people have. No significant differences between boys and girls. Between 16 and 18 yrs old: 50,2%; 19 to 21, 70,9 %; 22 to 25, 85,2 %. Weekly fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 01:53 PM |
| 2 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?The data I found included the 19/22 cohort from my country, and they weren't bad at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 01:09 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men's frustration and envy towards the opposite sex comes from how they think every female is that attractive Stacy that rejected them in high schoolThere are very nice chat bots right now, check Replika and its very friendly community here on Reddit. I think they could be a very good tool for shy, socially awkward men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 12:39 PM |
| 3 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?I really don't think there are such huge numbers of incels, they are just very vocal. Last week I checked and posted here statistics for several countries; it's still the case that the majority of people in the US and Europe will have some type of sexual or romantic partnership during their life span. Some people might start later and think of themselves in their 2Os to have no hope. A trend which I do think will increase is women not being too eager to get married. With growing financial indepe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 12:36 PM |
| 0 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?The idea that women only want a small percentage of "top guys" is in itself untrue. Most couples are formed by average people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 11:36 AM |
| 0 | A lot of men's frustration and envy towards the opposite sex comes from how they think every female is that attractive Stacy that rejected them in high schoolReally sorry you had that experience. On the other hand, those girls were really nasty people if they behave that way, so good riddance. I've always been polite refusing contact with men I wasn't interested in, unless they kept on trying and didn't accept a no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 11:33 AM |
| 2 | A lot of men's frustration and envy towards the opposite sex comes from how they think every female is that attractive Stacy that rejected them in high schoolI'm sorry you had those experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 11:29 AM |
| 62 | Am I Red-pill? Why does Red-Pill have such a bad rep?You write: Being "a man" means being kind, caring, intelligent, thoughtful, strong, persistent, etc etc I would say those are qualities any human being needs to try getting, woman or man alike, without the need to invoke any pills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 11:26 AM |
| -2 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?Whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 03:22 AM |
| -3 | A lot of men's frustration and envy towards the opposite sex comes from how they think every female is that attractive Stacy that rejected them in high schoolFirst of all, a lot of women do initiate. Second, there's a time and a place for everything..Cold approaching women in the street, the supermarket is unpleasant and has zero efficiency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 03:22 AM |
| 6 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?Again, that makes no sense, polygamy means a few men get away with the available women, and most men remain single. Not a solution to the problem at all. See the excellent documentary series "Keep sweet". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 03:20 AM |
| -2 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?Where are they then, according to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 03:18 AM |
| 3 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?That makes no sense. If more abd more women are opting to remain single, how would those harems find women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 02:22 AM |
| 4 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?People will realize that there's life outside of the internet and that previous generations didn't need it to find mates. And those who don't realize it will continue to post sad things on places like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 02:21 AM |
| 7 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?Exactly! And all the women who are not interested in the shallow experience of dating apps are out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 02:19 AM |
| 3 | A lot of men's frustration and envy towards the opposite sex comes from how they think every female is that attractive Stacy that rejected them in high schoolChatting up women is something many of us experience as unwanted. You need to be a woman to understand how much unwanted advances by men we have to put up during life since our teens. Yes, sometimes we can be rude in rejecting them, and that's wrong, but it's because we are fed up with not being left alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 11:35 PM |
| 3 | A lot of men's frustration and envy towards the opposite sex comes from how they think every female is that attractive Stacy that rejected them in high schoolI very much agree with this. I remember in my high school years how most girls were overlooked and boys kept making lists of "the hottests ones" which were just a few (incidentally, that's how Facebook was created in Zuckerberg's college: to rate girls). I must say I was one of the girls in those lists (never one of the top three ones but a bit further down), and however, my love life was not easy at all because the boy I was interested in had a mild case of Asperger's and it was very difficult … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 11:30 PM |
| 3 | Regarding age gap relationships, it’s meaningless for women to say they would never date youngerUnless you add something like "some women" to that statement, it's outrageous and delusional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 11:19 PM |
| 4 | Regarding age gap relationships, it’s meaningless for women to say they would never date youngerI've dated quite a few younger men, no problem whatsoever. And the double standard is very clear: very few men will date older woman from a certain age onwards, or even their own age. From 45 onwards or so, men will be looking for women who are much younger, and for older age cohort, the possibility of a woman to find a man her own age is very small, let alone a younger man, because men are trying to date (and marry) women who are significantly younger than them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 11:16 PM |
| 1 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedWhatever | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 10:53 PM |
| 6 | Are there any legit ways for men to learn how to be better with women?I'm glad that men such as this one aren't having much success. I hope it keeps being that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 04:07 PM |
| 3 | Are there any legit ways for men to learn how to be better with women?Exactly. But that's what women want, and as somebody wrote a bit further up "you need to ignore women's advice"... Sighs ... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 04:05 PM |
| 2 | Are there any legit ways for men to learn how to be better with women?It would seem logically that listening to what women want would be a good start. However, that's constantly discarded in here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 04:01 PM |
| 2 | I don't even know if I'm capable of change. I'm going to be an incel for the rest of my pathetic excuse of a lifeYou don't need to reveal your sexual past to anyone. | /r/ExRedPill | 27/06/22 03:57 PM |
| 0 | I don't even know if I'm capable of change. I'm going to be an incel for the rest of my pathetic excuse of a lifeA couple of very good books that you'll probably find more affordable than therapy: The will to change, bell hooks Toxic masculinity, Stephen Whitehead | /r/ExRedPill | 27/06/22 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Women who go for hot men and get pumped dumped and average men who get rejected by most women are the same(The following is undoubtedly ironic, but I was so disgusted reading this thread I came upon this idea): Several possibilities here: a) The sex was good for the woman: she already got something positive about this, whatever happens afterwards. Besides, she's in a better situation regarding her advantage than the man: after all, she had sex with an attractive man, he with an unattractive woman; she got the best deal: woman wins b) The sex was bad for the woman, the man ghosts her. Woman wins agai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 03:26 PM |
| 2 | Women who go for hot men and get pumped dumped and average men who get rejected by most women are the sameIf the man is you, I can see many reasons why a woman wouldn't want to be in a relationship with you anyways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 02:35 PM |
| 3 | Women who go for hot men and get pumped dumped and average men who get rejected by most women are the sameI'm almost sure of that, also of his being a rather nasty person to be around judging by what he posts. The only thing I would say to those women is: good riddance!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Do any of you guys feel like I do?You say you "saw attractive girls" at the party. How do you know there was any emotional attraction there? And you write about "extremely attractive girls", so you're focusing only in a minority of women, but then you write you could find a woman attractive "even if she's not extremely beautiful". A lot of confusion in there. Love and sex can be extremely rewarding with people who are not "extremely attractive". There's really no correlation between looks and happiness. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/06/22 11:27 PM |
| 3 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedVery different scenarios. Yes, a shallow and silly man might have some moves to approach women, which might work or not. The OP was talking about real dates with women he had been in contact with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Do any of you guys feel like I do?I wouldn't set my expectations into bringing into my life an "extremely attractive person", but rather one that might make me happier. Extremely attractive persons are in most cases very much aware of their power and might be vain, narcissist, shallow, and in any case will be wanted by many other people. On the other hand, somebody more average might make an excellent romantic and sexual partner. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/06/22 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Do any of you guys feel like I do?"Less attractive women who don't have much to offer too": Being attractive is just a part of the equation. There's so much more to making somebody and yourself happy in a relationship. Those women (and men) could be wonderful romantic partners. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/06/22 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Confessing to a new girlfriend that your ex cheated?I must say I don't like very much hearing details about previous relationships and try to avoid doing the same. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/06/22 09:54 PM |
| 2 | Reflections on Deep Patriarchy After Watching Keep SweetThank you so much, this is an absolutely wonderful article I will reread several times because it makes sense of so many things that have been puzzling me lately. I will also watch the series because I lived for a while with Mormons in the US as an exchange student and many things in their society also were very puzzling. I will also look up the author of this article, I really like the way she writes. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/06/22 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?In Japan. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 08:48 PM |
| 1 | If sex is not a need, then why would women be remotely upset about abortion being banned?I live in Europe and I don't think that's true at all. In any case, even if some states of the US might have more progressive policies, the fact that a vast number of States won't allow abortion all makes the US a much worse place regarding abortion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 08:47 PM |
| 1 | If sex is not a need, then why would women be remotely upset about abortion being banned?Or live in one of the developed countries of the Western world which have a secular attitude towards sex and relationships and allow both all kinds of contraception and abortion under certain circumstances. Since a couple of days ago, the US was included among those highly civilized countries; sadly it's no longer the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 07:32 PM |
| 5 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedI absolutely don't agree in the case of dating is that method is a script | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 07:30 PM |
| 13 | Escort addiction. I need help.Maybe you could try to find a self help group for sex addiction. Best luck | /r/ExRedPill | 26/06/22 07:29 PM |
| 1 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?Yes, I totally agree about the location bit. Interestingly, it works both ways: as a rather short woman I got lots of interest from very tall men when I lived in countries where they were very common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 05:45 PM |
| 1 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?Of course it doesn't make you a saint, and there are probably many experiences like yours. I wouldn't use the word "tolerate" though: many of us women don't care as much as men think about height. I've been both with extremely tall men and with men just slightly about my height (which is quite short), and it really didn't matter much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 05:27 PM |
| 9 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedYes, I really don't care, writer and translator here, so constantly around books. I'm just amazed that some people might think there's something ridiculous about suggesting reading books. I think that's one of the problems facing people these days: they get most of their information from very shallow sources, most of them online, and have trouble understanding or remembering complex ideas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 05:24 PM |
| 2 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedWell, in relationships like in anything else, practice is needed to get better. The difference I see from what you mention and RP or PUAs, is that you yourself realized what you needed to improve and did it. It was a personalized thing, not a "recipe" from someone else. Maybe there are men who stare too much or don't talk enough for which this improvement won't work You weren't "tricking" anyone, you were overcoming some slightly disfunctional behaviors stemming, as you say, from being shy. And … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 05:21 PM |
| 2 | If sex is not a need, then why would women be remotely upset about abortion being banned?I don't think anyone has ever said anything like that at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 05:12 PM |
| 0 | If sex is not a need, then why would women be remotely upset about abortion being banned?I wonder how much/how little you know about women's lives to post something like this. Sex might not be a "need", in the sense of food, water, sunlight are, but it's a very important element of human life for everyone, men and women alike. Abortion does not happen exclusively at all from casual sex. (Although of course casual sex is a perfectly ok thing to do). Some possibilities (and yes, in all of these cases, women might have been using some kind of birth control that failed): woman living in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 05:08 PM |
| 10 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedDon't take any notice. Lots of people find love and relationships later in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 04:58 PM |
| 8 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedI don't think at all most women "don't like men". We don't like men who are demeaning, aggressive, make unwanted sexual advances, are patriarchal, try to mansplaining things we know well, treat us as sexual objects etc. But there are plenty of men who don't have those traits, and many of us women do like them, we fall in love with them, we sleep with them, marry them etc, or are friends with them, if we manage to find them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 04:57 PM |
| 4 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedYou're mentioning two things that are indeed very off putting and that anyone having noticed them in themselves would probably try to change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 04:54 PM |
| 15 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedAgain, that's not true at all of what people are posting. His intentions are maybe good, but his "method" isn't, precisely because it's a "method". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 04:53 PM |
| 26 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedI have gone to that post and read through quite a few comments, and the overwhelming majority of them are not negative or offensive. The "cringe" one refers to him saying himself he doesn't like his "routine" but keeping on applying it. Maybe not the best choice of words, but not really hostile. My opinion about this person's problem is more or less the same than the others in that thread: he approaches meeting his dates with a very rigid script in place, which make him less authentic and which … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 04:51 PM |
| 8 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedI don't know, I've found quite a few books that have helped me as a woman during my life, and also a few YouTube channels by women therapists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 04:45 PM |
| 1 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedMaybe, but women should absolutely be a part of it too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 04:43 PM |
| 11 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedSomeone in here a few days ago posted a very long string of "hahas" to my comment about reading books on relationships and sex, calling me delusional or something worse for asking people to read in the 21st century!! As a woman, I certainly read quite a few books about sex and dating, they helped me hugely in getting quite good at least regarding sex. The emotional part has been more difficult to learn about, but I keep learning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 04:43 PM |
| 12 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedI've been here for a while, and most women like me are not aggressive or anything like that when answering such questions, maybe only when they're worded in misogynistic terms. And almost any advice we give, anything we tell about our life experiences with men is discarded as delusional or simplistic by the men in here. So, I'm sure the problem goes both ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 04:39 PM |
| 3 | Women of PPD, would you rather looksmaxx to become a pretty woman or be a handsome man?Wonderful post!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 04:35 PM |
| 3 | Women of PPD, would you rather looksmaxx to become a pretty woman or be a handsome man?Well, none of the women I know, except maybe one. She's probably the less attractive of them from an emotional point of view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 04:33 PM |
| 3 | Women of PPD, would you rather looksmaxx to become a pretty woman or be a handsome man?Your idea of a woman's life is very unrealistic: unless you work as a model or an expensive sex worker you don't need to do any of those things, or only if you're incredibly narcissistic and vain. I was a quite pretty woman for most of my life and really, my grooming routine was ten minutes or less of make up in the morning, hairdresser visit every few months, and some other things now and then when needed. I had my good share of love and sex with just that minimum self care. No, I wouldn't like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 04:32 PM |
| 0 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?That might be true, though on the other hand, women who are not attracted by the typical things discussed here might be kinder and make better partners. Woman here. I must say I don't personally know any woman attracted to any of the masculine features men in the RP constantly talk about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 04:20 PM |
| 2 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?However, short men have been finding mates and having children since forever, that's why there are still so many short people everywhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 04:13 PM |
| 14 | Can a woman verify this for me?As a woman, most of the seduction strategies I read in RP forums seem totally repulsive and misogynistic to me and I would never accept in my life a man acting that way. They might work for one night stands with women with rather low self esteem who are unconsciously looking to be demeaned and hurt, never with psychologically healthy women looking for long term relationships. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/06/22 04:00 PM |
| 2 | Displaying kindness can be attractive as true benevolence often comes from a position of abundance and confidenceGreat post, besides if you do have success with women it will be with the right ones, the ones who are themselves kind and understanding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Displaying kindness can be attractive as true benevolence often comes from a position of abundance and confidenceThis exchange is a very good example of the idea expressed in the OP. A kind person vs another not so kind. It's very clear who seems more interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 03:52 PM |
| 40 | How long would the average guy have to hang at a bar/club for an approach/IOI?You really think women approach men in bars? Never seen that, also in Europe myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 01:11 AM |
| 5 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?It is, but it's a hard truth to swallow for the red pill crowd who thinks 'lookmaxxing" or whatever they call it is the holy grail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 12:28 AM |
| 2 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?Of course, and the women here we've been repeating that day after day, to no avail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 12:27 AM |
| 1 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?So, you've been present in the dates of many couples all over the world and can safely ignore what many women are saying here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 12:25 AM |
| 4 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?Well, a lot of us are answering something very much along those lines, so maybe that's how we work emotionally and sexually. A lot what makes a man attractive doesn't directly derive from his looks, and that's something that is gradually revealed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 12:23 AM |
| 2 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?Haha, I just wrote my answer and used the same switch metaphor! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 12:21 AM |
| 2 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?Agree... Also at least for me it's very difficult or even impossible to judge just from looks if we could be sexually compatible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 12:20 AM |
| 1 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?My most important sexual and romantic partners were friends first for a certain time. Maybe I did find them not entirely unattractive from day one, but I also didn't consider the possibility of sex until quite a while into our friendship. So, not totally indifferent but not attracted either at the beginning. As a matter of fact I can remember quite well in their cases when the switch took place from considering them just friends to wanting them. I think only in one case I felt the sudden wanting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 12:19 AM |
| 2 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?No problem, I have plenty of data. You probably have none. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 05:37 PM |
| 3 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?Data please | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 04:49 PM |
| 11 | True, there isn't an unlimited amount of attractive men to go around....but there IS unlimited attention and ego boosting stimulus to render an artificisl inflation in girls self percieved valueRegular NY women are being gangbanged ? I really doubt it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 03:48 PM |
| 16 | True, there isn't an unlimited amount of attractive men to go around....but there IS unlimited attention and ego boosting stimulus to render an artificisl inflation in girls self percieved value"Bumfuck irrelevant countries". This type of statements show very clearly the type of people some users are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 03:44 PM |
| 12 | True, there isn't an unlimited amount of attractive men to go around....but there IS unlimited attention and ego boosting stimulus to render an artificisl inflation in girls self percieved valueYou really were surrounded by very strange people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 03:43 PM |
| 7 | True, there isn't an unlimited amount of attractive men to go around....but there IS unlimited attention and ego boosting stimulus to render an artificisl inflation in girls self percieved valueIf you really think that having online followers are a recipe for happiness. Which I'm sure most women don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 03:42 PM |
| 7 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?Not true. The problems related to some single mother households are because of poverty and the trauma of divorce, not because of not having a father around. Lesbian couples are also raising children successfully without men. As are widows, women who've opted for insemination or adoption, if they have enough financial means and no ex partner making their lives difficult while co-parenting: https://www.medicinenet.com/how_does_single_parenting_affect_a_child/article.htm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Blackpill Autist, I Need HelpSpending a lot of time online, specially in such toxic forums, will only aggravate your problem. Semen retention is just another absurdity like the red pill. Reducing porn consumption is healthy, but human sexuality is a biological function and trying to stop it can lead to mental health problems. The loss of sexual energy idea is very absurd in my opinion. What are you planning to use that energy for? Lots of men are in healthy sexual and emotional relationships worldwide, and having sex on a r… | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 03:15 PM |
| 2 | I’m descending into the woman hating madness. I don’t want to believe red pill but it’s too convincing. Help me.You say you only have technically dated one (a bad experience, as many/most people will have sooner or later in life, men and women alike), but that a lot of women have been abusive to you. In what context? Was this in real life or online? The RP won't help you improve your relationships with women, it will lead you deeper into women hating behavior that will take you further and further away from the possibility of finding a decent relationship. Sorry about that herpes, hope you're getting adeq… | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 03:06 PM |
| 4 | I’m descending into the woman hating madness. I don’t want to believe red pill but it’s too convincing. Help me.Great post, and I think one of the problem of men into RP is that they don't know enough women in real life in a totally platonic setting, as friends, coworkers, etc. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 03:02 PM |
| 8 | I’m descending into the woman hating madness. I don’t want to believe red pill but it’s too convincing. Help me.The word "loser" is in itself a self fulfilling prophecy. Life is not a race, and nobody really wins or loses. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 03:01 PM |
| 1 | I’m descending into the woman hating madness. I don’t want to believe red pill but it’s too convincing. Help me.Anger, yes I agree. Fear and sadness, if they're adequate responses to stimuli and not chronic feelings, no. Men who are forever fearless and despise sadness make very bad romantic partners. The internet is in many cases a highly toxic environment, not a good place to find out what women like/dislike. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 02:55 PM |
| 7 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?I don't think that's true at all. Poverty, living in dangerous areas might, and some single mothers who have no support might find themselves in that situation. But financially independent single mothers are not more or less at risk of raising troubled children than married ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 02:43 PM |
| 3 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?And they do quite well as single mothers, I know quite a few of them, including in my family..I once worked in an office where we were 50/50 men and women; of the women, only one was more or less in a conventional marriage with children (more or less because they lived in different countries due to work); the rest of the women with children were single, because of divorce, or because they had decided to have them alone (insemination, adoption, even one who decided to keep one after casual sex). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 12:45 PM |
| 2 | I embodied the mentality that came with being red-pilled on “female nature.” I went far down the rabbit hole. I sabotaged relationships of all kinds while exploring this. This is what I ended up with:Many of us women with a bit of experience try and try to post such things in the Pill groups, only to receive abuse and insults. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 12:42 PM |
| 2 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?Not sure for the UK, but for my country, 70% of people over 19 and 85% over 22 have had sex, and 70+% have had more than once it in the last few months, with no significant differences between women and men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 12:41 PM |
| 1 | I embodied the mentality that came with being red-pilled on “female nature.” I went far down the rabbit hole. I sabotaged relationships of all kinds while exploring this. This is what I ended up with:From the men I've dated, the only man that vaguely reminded of an alpha (although he probably wouldn't be for the red pill people because he wasn't tall) totally destroyed our relationship because precisely of his "alpha ness": incapacity to communicate, aggressive behavior trying to make me submissive, misogynistic traits. I've felt much more at ease with men who the pill community would call "betas" but who were much better at interpersonal skills. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 12:27 PM |
| 2 | I embodied the mentality that came with being red-pilled on “female nature.” I went far down the rabbit hole. I sabotaged relationships of all kinds while exploring this. This is what I ended up with:Great post, sadly the kind of thing that, if posted on a Pill forum, will get a lot of angry comments, although it's totally true. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 12:23 PM |
| 2 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.I'm not defending anything, I'm just stating facts. It's perfectly ok not to have casual sex. That doesn't mean other people are not having it, at least where I live. I don't think casual sex is the answer to any problem, to be honest. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 12:12 PM |
| 2 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.This link is in Spanish, but I guess Google Translate will translate it for you: https://www.20minutos.es/noticia/4825457/0/botellones-masivos-barcelona-madrid-colapsan-puntos-capitales/ | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 12:03 PM |
| 1 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.I wish things were a bit different here, specially regarding noise and litter to be honest. Also the level of alcohol consumption in those parties is worrying, with lots of very young people ending in hospital. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 12:00 PM |
| 2 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.Ok, whatever you want. I just checked, and over 70% of young people over 19, and 85% over 22 in my country have had sex. And 70% have had sex more than once over the last few months, with no significant differences between women and men. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 11:58 AM |
| 2 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.I could post some links for you of the massive outdoor parties on campus here. I live nearby, and really, on Monday morning going through campus is like walking through a battle field of litter from the party the day before. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 11:44 AM |
| 2 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.Not at all. What you call dorms, which are student residences here, are incredibly busy partying; lots of parents are concerned about this. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 11:42 AM |
| 2 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?Ok. Your sample will be very limited, and confirmation bias will make it even less reliable. But each one of us chooses a set of beliefs which will be either limit us or open us to more things; you've chosen that one. Which is, by the way, much more naïve than relying in statistics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 11:39 AM |
| 5 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.They were statistics about your country compiled by your statistics national organization. But fair enough, you're free to choose whatever you want to believe. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 11:27 AM |
| 2 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?Because I'm humble enough not to be omniscient and think my limited experience of the world is the norm. One can write: "I've experienced considerable difficulties in finding love or sex". That's perfectly acceptable. But if you write: "Most people cannot/won't find love and sex", you need statistics to underpin that statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 11:25 AM |
| 2 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.What country is that, if I may ask? Reading back, I see you're from the UK. So, not true,I just posted some statistics from the UK, and the majority of adults above 16 are in relationships. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 11:21 AM |
| 2 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?Well, if statistics don't mean anything, you're bound to draw conclusions only from the very limited data of personal experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 11:20 AM |
| 3 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?I'm a woman who has dated quite a few men with various degrees of attractiveness, have lots of friends, relatives, neighbors etc who are in relationships where almost never the man corresponds at all to a Chad definition and have traveled a lot all over the world and lived long term in several different countries and observed people in the streets and in public places and never noticed that trend. That's just a self fulfilling prophecy from unsuccessful men using only online dating apps to meet … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 11:19 AM |
| 3 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.Maybe in the US, not in any of the countries I know well in Europe. Sexual activity might be decreasing slightly, but still it's an experience the overwhelming majority of people above a certain age will have. See for example this statistics about percentage of people having sex in several countries. Many of them have % over 70%, so the most common behavior is being sexually active. Several of them are European countries: https://www.slice.ca/10-countries-that-have-the-most-sex/ | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 11:14 AM |
| 3 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?I wonder what data you have to state that. I've lived in quite a few countries in Europe and I don't think what you say is true anywhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 11:04 AM |
| 1 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.What kind of degree are you taking? Because I think that might be the case for some STEM degrees where men tend to be very introvert and shy. Not everywhere. Where I live, students have a very active social life, with parties and getting together to drink and socialize every weekend, to the point it's even a problem of public order in some cities, because of the noise they make. Only yesterday, it was impossible to sleep in my neighborhood because of the incredible noise even km away from a huge… | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 11:02 AM |
| 0 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?I just checked and over half of the population in England is married or in a civil partnership: "In 2019, just over half of the population (50.4%) were in a legally recognised partnership (50.2% were married with a further 0.2% in a civil partnership). An estimated 35.0% of the population were single (never married or in a civil partnership), with divorced/dissolved civil partnership and widowed/surviving civil partner accounting for 8.2% and 6.5% of the population respectively" The difference b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 10:57 AM |
| 7 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?The whole Chad idea is very ridiculous and not true, at least where I live. Men of all shapes and sizes are in relationships with women equally of all shapes and sizes: a simple walk in any city, a visit to a supermarket or a beach proves this. If the prize a society has to pay for a few bitter men who are unsuccessful at dating to find partners is to oppress 50% of the population, that's absolutely not acceptable. Men who cannot find sex for whatever reason can always seek prostitutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 10:45 AM |
| 4 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.They weren't lying, I know quite a few of the women they had slept with. It might indeed be a demographic and geographic thing: in Europe and above a certain age most people except the very religious ones have had several relationships and a sex life. Mostly because we went out and met people our age, and didn't expect to find them online. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 10:40 AM |
| 0 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?Well, another person posting here is from the UK and doesn't agree with you. I've studied in the UK and I don't agree either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 10:38 AM |
| 4 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?Glad to read that other people agree. I've been in contact with the UK very much and I also think it doesn't apply there either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 10:37 AM |
| 2 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.Well, all the men I've known in my life, with very varying degrees of looks/fitness/income (and none of them a Chad at all) had had quite a lot of casual sex. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 09:32 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?One Muslim girl, as opposed to incredibly high levels of oppression of women in most Muslim countries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:31 AM |
| 14 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?Read a bit about Japan and you'll realize that's not true. A woman has a lot of difficulties as well to find a suitable partner, even if she had it easier to find casual sex. European too, and at least in my country this is not a problem at all. But Europe is big, and some countries are more under the influence of the US than others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:30 AM |
| 1 | Today is just another reason why women should be extremely picky about MenBe responsible when you have sex with whoever you do. That hasn't changed. And yes, it's a lousy decision from the SCOTUS and one that sets back the US decades in comparison with most Western countries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:18 AM |
| 17 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?The situation in Japan is very different. A lot of men are no longer interested in sex. Women do want relationships, there are even "boyfriend bars" where lonely women go to meet men working there to provide them with conversation and affection, not sex. This whole idea of men not finding women is, as far as I know, a very American thing; in Europe there's nothing like that. Maybe because in the US people (mostly men) rely too heavily on OLD, while in Europe people keep on meeting through activi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:13 AM |
| -1 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?It's very difficult to believe what you write is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:09 AM |
| 3 | Do you think the same thing as in Japan is gonna happen to the entire world when western lifestyle/values/culture spreads everywhere?You really think there's more equality in Muslim countries??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:07 AM |
| 1 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.Saying you're not wanting to insult people when you're using an insulting word is difficult to understand. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 08:47 AM |
| 3 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.That might be true for the men in this subreddit, but not in general. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 08:46 AM |
| 2 | A Woman Is Never Truly Single - What Would You Do In This Scenario?I think it would depend on how happy this relationship made him, and how ready he's in giving up a chance for love, intimacy and happiness for an abstract idea about women's sexuality. The situation you describe is common also the other way round. Would I, as a woman, give up on a man whose company I enjoy because he has a woman somewhere he sleeps with in-between relationships? Certainly not If this FWB has remained as such for such a long time, it's because he doesn't have the characteristics … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 07:16 AM |
| 0 | is it realistic to expect men to just be confident if they have faced a lifetime of rejection and isolation?First of all, I wonder what a "lifetime of rejection" really means, because quite a lot of people in here seem to be in their 20s and only approaching women through online dating or cold approaches, so they are still very young and using very ineffective methods. Then, confidence in life is not only limited to sexual experience. A lot of people worldwide are in situations where they're not having sex or romance: because they're too young or too old, because they have given up on it after break-u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 06:51 AM |
| 8 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.Whore: somebody who gets money for sex. Basically an insult if applied to people who are not sex workers. Sexually liberated people: People who don't think sex is sinful or morally wrong. Men or women. I wish we stopped using words like "whore" or "slut" to define such people. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 06:47 AM |
| 14 | I don't hate women for being casual sex-havers anymore.But women who do have casual sex are not "whores" anyway, they're just people exploring their sexuality as much as many men have traditionally do. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/06/22 06:00 AM |
| 4 | Q4A At what height is a man’s dating life hindered?Europe is big and there are huge differences from country to country. You cannot compare Scandinavia or Germany with Greece, Italy, Portugal or Spain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4A At what height is a man’s dating life hindered?Sure, the Erasmus time is a wonderful chance to experience in this field. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 06:05 PM |
| 2 | Q4A At what height is a man’s dating life hindered?I know perfectly well, but I guess you were mocking the posting of metric units. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 06:01 PM |
| 2 | Roe v. Wade Mega-ThreadI'm really sorry reading the news from the US. You'll be fine with the IUD, maybe take some extra precautions around ovulation. I had it for many years with a very active sex life and had no scare. These are really very dark times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 05:29 PM |
| 3 | Q4A At what height is a man’s dating life hindered?Not everyone in the world is American. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 01:12 PM |
| 3 | Q4A At what height is a man’s dating life hindered?1.82 in Spain is extremely rare and most men are way shorter and they do date and marry. I've lived for a long time there, almost nobody in my social circle was that tall. Go out on the street and you'll see lots of short men with their girlfriends. Interestingly, as a short woman, I got lots of men interested in me in Scandinavia, where most women are very tall. So, yes, I agree about the location element. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 01:12 PM |
| 6 | A hypergamy debate and my RP epiphanyReally great you realized how toxic this world is! Epiphany is indeed a very good word to describe that moment. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/06/22 12:44 PM |
| 2 | Here is the one and only advice that will work for you average and even unattractive menGreat post, and it totally corresponds to my experience too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 12:30 PM |
| 1 | Women should stop trying to give men dating adviceWell, maybe. I'm not sure how this is related to the topic of women's advice to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Women should stop trying to give men dating adviceYou'll never know what "men they pick" from online forums or online dating. Go out into real life and see for yourself what men are living real relationships: men of all sizes, shapes, weights, heights, races etc. As for that woman, who knows. There are many causes for obesity, not all of them relate to excessive weight. In any case, that example has nothing to do with the topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 04:42 PM |
| 1 | I have a porn addiction and I’m scared to talk to women. I need advice.Regarding the porn addiction, Google resources to tackle it, there might be some where you live or online which could help you. Maybe you could join a patient association for the type of disability you have; women are more active than men in associations and you might find women to become friends with who have similar problems than yours. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/06/22 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Women should stop trying to give men dating adviceWhatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 12:51 PM |
| 1 | OpinionsThe human brain and genetics are two different fields of science, and yes, a lot is already known about both. And people like me who have taken time to study them know what the boundaries of research are . Well, there's nothing preventing men from choosing less dangerous jobs. And maybe if some professional sectors became less male dominated, more women would choose them. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/06/22 12:49 PM |
| 2 | Women should stop trying to give men dating adviceYour "biology" has nothing to do with this. This is a psychological preference. There are men of many different types, not everyone is a bigot red piller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 12:45 PM |
| 4 | Why are women so much pickier when it comes to men than men are when it comes to women?Agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 12:39 PM |
| 21 | Why are women so much pickier when it comes to men than men are when it comes to women?Not true at all. Maybe in OLD, which is a very toxic narrow environment which only a minority of women use. In real life, men of all types have girlfriends and wives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 12:38 PM |
| 1 | [discussion] What is really being the truth about the physical attractiveness??There might be some features that are more attractive to others, and they will definitely vary from culture to culture, from women to women and even between different stages of a woman's life. But it's not a must to be conventionally attractive to have a relationship. Men of all sizes, heights, weights, facial structure, do have girlfriends and wives. If you're in doubt about this, go to any crowded place, a supermarket, a train station, and watch the couples passing by. You'll find it difficult… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 12:33 PM |
| 0 | Women should stop trying to give men dating adviceThat's just not true. Many countries in Northern Europe have been having a lot of sexual freedom and no religious prejudice for decades, with women being as sexual as men, and people get together, fall in love and marry whatever their past sexual story is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 12:16 PM |
| 1 | Women should stop trying to give men dating adviceVery good analysis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 12:13 PM |
| -2 | Women should stop trying to give men dating adviceGreat advice. Woman here: I've met interesting men in many activities I've done, and dated quite a few. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 12:12 PM |
| 4 | Women should stop trying to give men dating adviceSo, best strategy: getting advice from men who either have failed at relationships, have no experience whatsoever, or have a combination of whatever features (looks, money) some women might want and have no difficulty getting dates??? That's absurd. It's like if you were a small company not able to sell your products and would not listen to your customer feedback, but would seek advice from other failing companies, people with no experience in the sector, or megastores with resources you'll neve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 12:09 PM |
| 1 | OpinionsAs a matter of fact, I know a lot about genetics, and thinking learned behaviors can be passed on to offspring is Lamarckian and has been dismissed long time ago. Behaviors can be learned, and in the same way, can be redressed; there's nothing genetic about it. Men do dangerous work because they choose them. They could just as well choose the jobs women do. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/06/22 11:45 AM |
| 10 | CMV: No one should drop their standards for any reason whatsoever, and high standards are eminently reasonable"Set in stone" things are a very unmature thing, closing the doors to many possible new experiences. Grown up, mature people are flexible in everything and open to new experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Is it true a "high status" job is required to get a girl to notice you?There are couples of all kinds. It's not true that only people with high status jobs date and marry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 02:50 AM |
| 1 | If we had absolutely perfect data on sex and relationships, what are the sorts of things we would discover about people?Yes, that's certainly true, but those criteria are very wide and not at all as clear cut as the RP community thinks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 01:25 AM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......The cycle of some men understanding women instead of demeaning and hating them? Long live that cycle!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman’s maintenance level changes depending on the man she’s with?My ex was very good looking and very good in bed, also financially in a very good position. But also totally neglecting most of my needs in many ways. Needs I had expressed many times in very reasonable terms. No amount of looks, sex or anything else can compensate that lack of attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 10:53 PM |
| 2 | If people walked around naked and exposed, how would this affect sexuality and gender?Well, a nudist beach is for me one of the less exciting places on Earth. And even when I've been to one with somebody I was in a relationship with and with whom I had a very passionate sex life with, seeing him like that made me lose any desire for him for a couple of days. Most people have imperfect bodies that don't resist full disclosure outside of the bedroom or any other place where sex takes place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Shy and extroverted Women, how far have you gone to simp/get the attention of a guy you liked/want to have sex with?I'm both extrovert in general but a bit shy with men, but nevertheless I've initiated a lot of times, mostly with men I was pretty sure were into me but too shy to initiate. And in many occasions it worked fine. Though I've had a couple of massive blunders, which now, seen in retrospect, are really funny. And with one exception, I'm in good terms with those men who rejected me and I don't keep any grudges; rather, I think I was lucky it didn't work back then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 10:37 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......Great post, and I agree with all if what you write in there. I'm sure the women around you, family, friends, romantic partners etc, will really appreciate your understanding of their situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 10:21 PM |
| 1 | The dating market place is changing simply because women don’t need men like we need women.There are 4 billion women worldwide. A blanket statement calling them all "dumb and unloyal to their employers" can only have a few reasons: a) Omniscient poster knowing in detail the characteristics of personality and work performance of every single woman out of 4 billion. Difficult to believe in general, and much less from something without the skill to spell and use grammar correctly. b) Misogyny, defined as generalized and irrational hatred towards women. c) Stupidity So, if a) is discarded… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 10:16 PM |
| 10 | If you're not supposed to expect relationships to make you happy, then what's the point of being in them?First of all, I don't think there's such a thing as a constant state of happiness, just a general feeling of satisfaction/insatisfaction with life, with fleeting moments of happiness or not. Then, a person who is generally unhappy/unsatisfied will bring that bitterness to whatever they start in life, from friendships to romantic relationships, so it will be difficult to achieve any positive results. Relationships add more meaning and more possibilities of satisfaction/happiness to life, so they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Beta male triying to not believe in the Red PillYes, I would never discuss with somebody as deeply deluded. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/06/22 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Hamza's newestAs if hard times didn't affect everyone, including women and children. As if the current hard times due to the war in Ukraine didn't have a lot to do with "hard men" trying to impose their deluded ideas of domination. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/06/22 06:21 PM |
| 1 | The dating market place is changing simply because women don’t need men like we need women."Unloyal, dumb, etc": you chose to use that card yourself... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 06:17 PM |
| 1 | The dating market place is changing simply because women don’t need men like we need women.You seem to have a serious problem with misogyny and spelling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 04:33 PM |
| 4 | This sub fuels neither misandry nor misogyny, but misanthropy.Well, although I agree a lot of what's posted here is inaccurate, calling everyone in here "dumb and arrogant" is also a very unfair generalization. A lot of us here, specially women and a few happily married men or men who don't hate women, try to counteract every day a lot of the awful things some people post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 04:07 PM |
| 1 | OpinionsFighting in wars: not happening in most Western men's lives right now Working themselves to death: women work long hours too, and on top of that are the ones who do most of the house chores and child care. Building society as we know it: Society is a joint effort of men and women. In most Western countries, women are part of the work force in significant numbers and also do a huge lot of invisible tasks looking after men, children and the elderly. Centuries doing whatever: that's not how heredit… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/06/22 03:48 PM |
| 1 | CMV: women do not "set up" male friends with other women unless he meets a certain attraction thresholdMaybe not setting up, but getting to know other women through one woman friend | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Beta male triying to not believe in the Red PillThe Bible, as you write, or rather the gospels, are not objective sources, they were written many years after the facts by the followers of a person whose historical existence has been put into doubt often, and for which in any case the two only facts that have a bit of credibility are his baptism by John and his crucifixion. Even the writers of the gospels, who were keen on transmitting a very positive image of somebody they had never met themselves, were no trying to convey a very masculine im… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/06/22 02:13 PM |
| 2 | If we had absolutely perfect data on sex and relationships, what are the sorts of things we would discover about people?I agree with most of you write, except maybe the looks part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 01:57 PM |
| 6 | If we had absolutely perfect data on sex and relationships, what are the sorts of things we would discover about people?I totally agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 01:54 PM |
| 3 | If we had absolutely perfect data on sex and relationships, what are the sorts of things we would discover about people?Great post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 01:45 PM |
| 14 | If we had absolutely perfect data on sex and relationships, what are the sorts of things we would discover about people?a) I suggest you read a subreddit called "Dead bedrooms". Lots of women complaining about husbands with no libido. b) A reasonable number of experiences, why more?. c) Why would women lie about this? There's no advantage saying you don't care about penis size. A lot of sexual acts, like oral or anal, can be very painful with large penises, and woman's pleasure anyhow doesn't necessarily relate to penetration, but from clitoris stimulation. There has been a lot of research on human sexuality wher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 01:44 PM |
| 1 | The dating market place is changing simply because women don’t need men like we need women.A lot of the "sick and off of work" time is used for the "trivial" task of bringing children to the world and raising those future tax payers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:15 PM |
| 1 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Thanks for the reference, I'll read it with attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 10:38 PM |
| 1 | Interesting social experiment showing why dating is a numbers game for menVery distilled, since most women don't use it, and the proportion of men vs women is something like 80 vs 20. Before dating apps, most men who wanted to find a girlfriend/wife managed to do so. So, clearly, online dating is a distortion of normal human mating behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 10:35 PM |
| 2 | Isn't hypergamy a good thing from an evolutionary perspective?Define "good genetics". If by "good" you mean good looking, lots of intelligence, sensibility, creativity, inventiveness would get lost, since those traits are very often not associated with beauty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Average=invisibleAverage people are the most frequent type of people, hence the name. And statistically speaking, most people have sooner or later in life some type of romantic or sexual experience. If only the extremely attractive were mating, the human species would have ended long ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 10:07 PM |
| 1 | I don’t like being a man. It dosent really mean anything to me.Or get a good book about it, I always recommend "Feeling Good" by David Burns... A book that probably has saved many lives. | /r/ExRedPill | 21/06/22 09:51 PM |
| 1 | I don’t like being a man. It dosent really mean anything to me.Nothing of those things you need you don't have are needed for a good life. Those are extras some people do have, and they don't always make them happy. I just took a flight that was slightly delayed and it was the last one of the day in a rather small airport, so I had plenty of time to look at all passengers. There wasn't a single man I would qualify as extremely attractive or just over average. However, many of them (average men, not specially attractive at all) were with girlfriends or wives… | /r/ExRedPill | 21/06/22 09:49 PM |
| 0 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?I wonder what those alleged cases of rape from women to men look like. And how frequent they are. Taking aside statutory rape. If you have some statistics it'd be interesting to read them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 10:02 AM |
| 1 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Yes, that's why sex shouldn't be limited to "what makes a baby". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 10:00 AM |
| 1 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?I don't think I ever said anything about how many women you've met, I think it was the other way round, but I really don't care. Consent goes of course both ways. Not many women rape though, unless we're talking about statutory rape which is mostly an American concept. But if a woman has sex with a man against his will, she's as guilty of rape as a man, of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 09:47 AM |
| 1 | Interesting social experiment showing why dating is a numbers game for menTotally uncalled for, but I guess you're the kind of person who enjoys writing things like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 09:42 AM |
| 2 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 08:06 AM |
| 2 | Beta male triying to not believe in the Red PillLots of very confusing ideas in there. Anyhow, well before any red pill nonsense emerged, women and men had a very clear idea of what an "eligible bachelor" was, which included of course having a job, being well groomed and sociable, being interesting, also being nice and likeable etc. That's just plain common sense. There was also idea of what a woman needed to be like to marry. Then these RP ideologies and pick up artists have created a very complicated and mostly misogynistic structure upon t… | /r/ExRedPill | 21/06/22 08:04 AM |
| 1 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?That's just not true, most women are able to reach orgasms by stimulation of the clitoris, manually, orally or with a vibrator. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 07:56 AM |
| 2 | How to spot good women?Are you maybe? You definitely sound and write like one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 07:54 AM |
| 2 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Interesting how you assume so many things that are wrong, including lack of experience or not knowing how women behave. At least where I live, a very liberal and feminist place, if you don't like the idea of consent much you might be in trouble with the law | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Beta male triying to not believe in the Red PillWhat women want, not what men think women want. In RP subreddits for example, each and every suggestion made by women is dismissed as delusional. They have a very rigid dogma of what is it that women want and won't listen to us. | /r/ExRedPill | 21/06/22 07:50 AM |
| 0 | Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negatedA rather apocalyptic point of view that doesn't reflect in my opinion anything happening. Yes, a lot of women no longer need a provider. But many women would still very happy to find a companion with whom to share lots of things in life, with whom to enjoy activities, intimacy, sex, with whom to build a life and face struggles together. However, as it's often made very clear in this subreddit,a lot of men are unwilling to see women as anything else than a provider of sex, often very rough sex de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 07:46 AM |
| 1 | Would you take a bcp for men if it was on the market ?Really funny!! I'll let them all, all my three unis in three different countries and in different languages, from BA to Ph D that a random reddit stranger has warned me about this... You don't need to explain me anything, thanks a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Not orgasmed from piv intercourse maybe, but of course there are i other types of stimulation most couples use | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Interesting social experiment showing why dating is a numbers game for menNot interested | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 10:38 PM |
| 0 | Interesting social experiment showing why dating is a numbers game for menWell, the circunstantes of those people should be examined to determine what's happening with them. Most people do manage to find some kind of relationship sooner or later, even if only for a brief period of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 09:59 PM |
| 4 | Interesting social experiment showing why dating is a numbers game for menAt least I'm not saying I do, unlike you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 09:58 PM |
| 0 | Would you take a bcp for men if it was on the market ?Whatever you say, I will not waste more time discussing this with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop expecting women to teach them to be good lovers.No, I was just surprised, I've never behaved that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 09:55 PM |
| 2 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?If the voting is your argument, I'm sure men voted them at least as much if not more | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:36 PM |
| 3 | Interesting social experiment showing why dating is a numbers game for menSo, you know the tastes in bed of the many million women worldwide??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Interesting social experiment showing why dating is a numbers game for menOr actively doing something to meet women in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:34 PM |
| 0 | Would you take a bcp for men if it was on the market ?You wrote: "When a woman is feeling horny it's like when you feel a mild craving for candy as you walk by a store. When a man is horny it is like a dying man in the desert desperate for water! The strength of the two emotions are not the same! " That sounds pretty much like thinking you know what a woman feels. Never during my several years if Neurobiology in university did I hear/read any articles which could back up that claim | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:32 PM |
| 0 | Would you take a bcp for men if it was on the market ?I wonder how, not being a woman yourself, you know what it is to feel horny. Unless of course you're a trans man, in that case (the ony one which would allow you to make such analogy) my deepest and sincere excuses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:09 PM |
| 7 | Interesting social experiment showing why dating is a numbers game for menOMG! So you think girls are desperate for that kind of sex you describe... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 06:47 PM |
| 4 | Interesting social experiment showing why dating is a numbers game for menWonderful post! I haven't watched the video yet but I'm sure a lot of what you say it's true. I specially agree with the idea that dating apps are a business with an algorithm certainly geared towards keeping success rates quite low, but not entirely negligible, so that male customers become addicted to it, like to gambling. There was a series (I can't remember which one) where somebody designed an app geared towards success and finding a compatible partner, and he or she got horrible attacks fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 06:46 PM |
| 2 | Interesting social experiment showing why dating is a numbers game for menI would too. But maybe I wouldn't notice him in a dating app. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 06:36 PM |
| 9 | Interesting social experiment showing why dating is a numbers game for menMen have been meeting women in real life for centuries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 06:35 PM |
| 8 | Interesting social experiment showing why dating is a numbers game for menDating apps are a scam of these days, offering to both sexes a product that doesn't really exist: Relationships to women Casual sex to men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 06:35 PM |
| 4 | Interesting social experiment showing why dating is a numbers game for menWhich proves online dating is a waste of time and no reflection of real life, because this guy, in a normal real life setting, would certainly find women who would be interested in him. Only a minority of women use OLD, they are absolutely outnumbered by men, and flooded with offers. I'm sure the algorithm of the OLD apps is also rigged to allow only a very moderate level of success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 06:31 PM |
| 3 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Name one current war started by a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 06:28 PM |
| 1 | If a man isn't interested in exclusivity/monogamy, how is he supposed to not get labelled a "jerk"?The first scenario is tricky, at least for me. It's very difficult not to develop feelings for somebody you've been spending a lot of time with, maybe even sharing holidays, making plans together etc. It's also difficult to understand why things should be limited to that and nothing else. I've been there and won't go back. The second scenario is somehow more brutal but also more fair. I don't think I would do it anymore, but I guess if people go in there they know what's expecting them and they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 06:23 PM |
| 2 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?That's really great, though it's a very difficult thing to do. It seems a lot of young men somehow enjoy that negativity... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 04:17 PM |
| 2 | How to spot good women?You don't have a clue of what my knowledge of the RP is, I'm afraid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 04:15 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop expecting women to teach them to be good lovers.Very extreme indeed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 04:15 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop expecting women to teach them to be good lovers.It would be really interesting to knee how many prostitutes are being paid to teach men how to please women... Not virgins, just experienced men with difficulties in this. I'm sure they're not many. My answer to the OP was that, although I do think it would be great if men had better information in this regard, I've always told the men I was with what I wanted and how I wanted it. And listened to them too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 04:14 PM |
| 4 | Since Testosterone governs both strength and sex drive in humans people who think the partner preference is a bullshit double standard but the strength one is just natural are hypocrites.Well, if you feel comfortable thinking that way, I will not try to convince you otherwise. My firm belief is that working on interpersonal skills is a much better investment than working on building muscle, but it's clear that no man in the RP community wants to hear this. I was checking a list of divorce reasons the other day; not a single mention of looks, height, muscle, gym attendance or not. Mostly everything was about emotional and sexual compatibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop expecting women to teach them to be good lovers.Do women give you feedback with that many insulting words in it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 04:00 PM |
| 2 | Men need to stop expecting women to teach them to be good lovers.Totally agree about circumcision, lol! European woman here... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop expecting women to teach them to be good lovers.3 out of 10! I really wonder what women men in this subreddit are sleeping with! There's almost every day guys saying women have no sex drive, are bad in bed, etc... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop expecting women to teach them to be good lovers.Stopping calling women bitches could be a first step. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop expecting women to teach them to be good lovers.Wow, thinking that pleasing a woman is doggy style/belt around neck/finger up her ... shows very clearly where people are getting their sex education from nowadays. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop expecting women to teach them to be good lovers.Haha, that's probably the most hilarious/ridiculous thing I've read on Reddit... And written in capitals too... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop expecting women to teach them to be good lovers.Why two hundred prostitutes? That's absurd, and prostitutes will most certainly be more interested in pleasing the man than in teaching them. Why not: a man who had slept with some women, not necessarily many, and listened to what they had to say about what they found pleasurable in bed? Or even a man without much experience but who had taken the trouble to read some good sex manuals, and is intelligent enough to understand that porn is not sex education. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 03:47 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop expecting women to teach them to be good lovers.Well, it is true they could make an effort and read more (and watch less porn), but I've never been against "teaching" a man how to please me, and listening about his preferences too.. It's true that that work best in long term relationships, and that's why casual sex is mostly disappointing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 03:44 PM |
| 2 | Since Testosterone governs both strength and sex drive in humans people who think the partner preference is a bullshit double standard but the strength one is just natural are hypocrites.A woman can have five or six orgasms in a session while a man can only have one: correct. A man will fall asleep after coming while a woman could go on for much longer: correct. A woman can have orgasms from stimulation of several parts of their body (clit, vagina, G spot, breasts, anus), while a man typically can only come from stimulation of his penis (and prostatic area for gay men or those straight men willing to try it): correct Tiresias knew about all of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 03:41 PM |
| 2 | Since Testosterone governs both strength and sex drive in humans people who think the partner preference is a bullshit double standard but the strength one is just natural are hypocrites.Small woman here, never ever felt the urge to be thrown around or sleep with a huge man. Never looked twice at a very muscular man who wasn't also nice, intelligent and caring. And had lots of wonderful delightful sex with normal sized men who were good at pleasing me and knew what women like in bed. I have at least half a dozen women friends who were universally considered as extremely beautiful. Not one of them has married a giant, strong, muscular man. All of their husbands are average size a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 03:38 PM |
| 5 | Do people confuse anxiety for attraction?That's just not true. Very often it's difficult to know what you feel for a man, if it's only emotional, friendly or also physical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 03:32 PM |
| 3 | Do people confuse anxiety for attraction?Very good post. I think when you're young and inexperienced, having your mind busy with somebody can be mistaken with love. But as you say, that cannot go on indefinitely, and once a relationship starts, it's a much better state of things to feel you're comfortable and secure in your feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 03:30 PM |
| 2 | Beta male triying to not believe in the Red PillEvery adult human being needs to have a certain degree of confidence to go through life, man or woman. But confidence understood as arrogance or vanity or superiority complex is a very unpleasant trait. For me, one of the most off putting things in a man. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/06/22 03:12 PM |
| 2 | OpinionsMy fondest memories of the men in my life, both romantic partners and friends or family members, are from times where they showed their vulnerability. And the worst, from times they wanted to play the "tough macho" role and close up emotionally. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/06/22 03:07 PM |
| 3 | OpinionsNot the majority at all. I'm a woman and don't know any other woman enjoying being submissive to patriarchal values, not even in my parents' generation. There are some who are indeed in that situation, because they don't have enough strength, courage or resources to leave. But they don't like it. And among younger, professional women it's a rarity. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/06/22 03:06 PM |
| 2 | OpinionsAlso, relationships evolve, and once the "honeymoon" phase is over, other trends might appear which are uglier and more patriarchal. Like the man who seems to be understanding, kind and sexually generous in the beginning, but after some time, when the relationship starts becoming a routine, starts behaving in a demeaning, aggressive and disrespectful way. Or the woman of course. And once things get ugly, it takes a lot of energy to decide putting an end to the relationship. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/06/22 03:03 PM |
| -1 | At what age does it become weird to not have lost your virginity as a man?Well, good luck with it. I guess once you start having relationships and sex you'll be able to decide if your ideas were right or misguided. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 02:59 PM |
| 13 | Older guys are not dating young girlsThere are a couple of such cases in my family, 12 year gap in each case. It seemed a bit weird when they started, and for a while it went well, but then as the men got considerably older while the women were still reasonably young and attractive, it started going downhill. One of those couples divorced this year, with 3 children in common; the other is very unstable, 2 children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 01:55 PM |
| 2 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?Great post! I wish you a lot of success in whatever you want to reach | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 01:40 PM |
| 4 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?I guess you know this is not true, but anyhow, if you find it funny making jokes about something as tragic as a war, go ahead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 01:36 PM |
| 1 | How to spot good women?The key is consent, explicit or implicit (even though this one is tricky because we live in a very pornified society and some young inexperienced girls might not have healthy boundaries anymore). Even in the BDSM community there are arrangements to be met beforehand, safe words to agree etc. What is worrying is that for many men, pushing boundaries always goes in the direction of the women and always related to being demeaning or dominating towards her, and very often inflicting pain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 01:35 PM |
| 3 | OpinionsMany men are emotionally damaged as well, and probably they attract each other. And no, it's absolutely not true most women are holding on to patriarchy or toxic masculinity. It's incredibly difficult to get complete freedom from it, because it's everywhere, but being sometimes the victim of patriarchy doesn't mean at all enjoying it. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/06/22 01:30 PM |
| 5 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?No, I'm just saying this was a situation women were not guilty of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 01:28 PM |
| 1 | At what age does it become weird to not have lost your virginity as a man?I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, just saying that that's the only situation where I've seen it happen. If you're a virgin and have no experience with women, giving advice to other men doesn't seem the best of ideas. It's like giving advice to somebody about living in a foreign country you've never have been to. I don't want to criticize you too much, there must be something in you that's needing to do this, but I guess in the future, when you've acquired enough experience, you'll reali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 01:27 PM |
| 1 | All of this back and forth is pointless, women will always have an extreme advantage ONLY because men are way hornier and therefore want and need women way more than women will ever want or need men. It all comes back to this very basic fact.People who insult other online, calling them insane for example, have such low emotional intelligence that is a total waste of time discussing with them People who think women cannot raise children on their own successfully are just so out of touch of reality that's is not worth discussing with them. People who insult a country of millions of inhabitants, with very various degrees of education, income, political affiliation, are also not worth discussing with. Not my country, by the way. I haven… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 12:10 PM |
| 5 | OpinionsThere are emotionally damaged m women and men, yes, and it's advisable not to choose one of them as a romantic partner. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/06/22 12:05 PM |
| 2 | How to spot good women?You know very little of feminism (not radical feminism, which is a totally different story and not endorsed by most women) if you think that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 12:04 PM |
| 1 | At what age does it become weird to not have lost your virginity as a man?Yes, but in the same way women should pay no attention to misogynistic men, men should pay no attention to these women. In general, hateful people should be ignored, it robs them of their power. The few times I've seen women make fun of men because of being virgins is when they go about giving advice about relationships or sex. I cannot imagine a situation where an emotionally intelligent woman would make fun of a man's virginity if he told her when starting a relationship or when getting ready … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 12:02 PM |
| 3 | Beta male triying to not believe in the Red PillThere are some basic elements that most women want and which RP people choose to ignore because it would take them some effort to work in that direction. The reasons most women state are leading them to separate or divorce are very good indicators of what's lacking in men/women relationships. And it's definitely none of the things RP keeps claiming. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/06/22 11:59 AM |
| 1 | How to spot good women?Since you have no idea of what my sex life is like, I won't comment in that. You'd be surprised. Some domination in bed, on one side or the other, can indeed be exciting. Saying all women want that is an absurd generalization, and a dangerous one since some very inexperienced boys will use it asa default setting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 11:53 AM |
| 9 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?Very few women would accept any of those things without giving consent. It's only men who constantly watch porn and have little contact with real women who think otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 11:48 AM |
| 6 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?A war started by men, and fought by men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 11:45 AM |
| 2 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?I agree with most of you write, but I also think (as a woman) that's it's totally possible to have as much pleasure or more than men. Many women can become multiorgasmic if they find the right partner or the right way to self pleasure themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 11:42 AM |
| 2 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?I guess you mean what problems we face in our love life, not in life in general. Well, those things you list as advantages are not such, because very few women are interested in getting sex or compliments from random strangers. It's very difficult to find a suitable partner, one who is understanding, emotionally and sexually intelligent, knows how to listen, has no male chauvinistic ideas about relationships and women, is not afraid of strong, intelligent women, is not jealous, possessive or dom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 11:35 AM |
| 14 | OpinionsIt's probably one of those things that goes from generation to generation under the motto "I went through this, so you need to go through it too". A really damaging thing because it hurts everyone: the man who represses his feelings, the woman and children around him who have a distant husband and father, other men who are on the receiving end of the violence those repressed feelings turn into. There might be women raised in a very patriarchal way for which this is appealing, but I think most wo… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/06/22 10:08 AM |
| 1 | Why do people assume that men that don’t get dates are basement dwelling neck beards?Well, your answer is, as it often happens here, disrespectful and nasty enough not to make me feel me anything but pity. As for my IQ, well, that suggestion is so hilarious that it really made my day.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 10:03 AM |
| 2 | Beta male triying to not believe in the Red PillYou have a very biased idea of Jesus's message, which is really worrying if you're religious. I would suggest you read or reread the Sermon on the Mountain, which is almost the opposite of what you write in here and of the tenets of Red Pill ideology. It was all about the meek, the sick, the destitute, the poor. Nothing about success or living an "exhilarating" life. Jesus himself was almost destitute, living from the help his followers could lend him, maybe a virgin or celibate, or if not, as s… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/06/22 10:00 AM |
| 2 | Beta male triying to not believe in the Red PillMost of the things the RP states are false and its object is to trap men even more in the prison of toxic masculinity, probably because it sells books, YouTube channels, workshops, lecturea etc. Even if your religion asks you to remain a virgin till marriage (a very wrong idea in my opinion, but anyhow) I guess you're not forbidden to try and find a girl with your same ideas to date and start learning what women are all about, which is probably very different to whatever the crazy RP ideology sa… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/06/22 08:09 AM |
| 3 | Beta male triying to not believe in the Red PillWhatever makes you say things like "Jesus was red pill". I'm not a believer, but Jesus was extremely kind to women, and his best woman friend and companion was Mary Magdalene, a former prostitute. And he preached things like loving your neighbor, being meek, throwing the merchants out of the temple, nothing like the misogynistic, superficial ideology of the RP, obsessed with looks, money and categorizing people as cattle. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/06/22 08:03 AM |
| 6 | Beta male triying to not believe in the Red PillOnline dating is a very toxic environment, where only a minority of women take part and they need to shift through the huge number of offers judging by very scant materials, just some pictures and a short bio. Try to find girls in real life instead. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/06/22 08:00 AM |
| 1 | Is creepy just code for unattractive/ugly?None of the things you mention would qualify as "creepy" for me. Except maybe the hood during class, which I think might be forbidden here where I live (as are caps, hats etc). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:56 AM |
| 1 | People seriously underestimate negative survivorship bias in datingI wrote the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:51 AM |
| 1 | How to spot good women?There's absolutely no serious science saying anything of the kind, and lots of very intelligent men are marrying women with considerable sexual experience, for example in places like Germany, the Netherlands or Scandinavia, where there's no pressure from religion, contraception is easy and most women are very free in their sexuality. Calling others "retarded and delusional" only serves to reveal the flaws of the person choosing those words. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:51 AM |
| 2 | I honestly believe women just aren't interested in sex.Same here. I've been very sexual with most of my partners, and in most cases which lowered my enthusiasm a bit was when they stuck to a routine and didn't take my wishes into account. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:48 AM |
| 1 | Why do people assume that men that don’t get dates are basement dwelling neck beards?You yourself wrote, I think, that women have very low libidos. So, since that's scientifically known not to be true, this idea must arise from your own experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:46 AM |
| 2 | How to spot good women?It has all the characteristics of a cult, including thought manipulation, shaming of dissidents, gross generalizations about the behavior or motivations of those not adhering to its ideology, exploiting the vulnerability of people in distress,etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:43 AM |
| 0 | How to spot good women?You cannot generalize. Probably something in your attitude attracts a certain type of woman. There's nothing disgusting in it, it's just not what every woman wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:41 AM |
| 0 | At what age does it become weird to not have lost your virginity as a man?Those "buzzwords" refer to things that are very real, so worth mentioning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:40 AM |
| 1 | At what age does it become weird to not have lost your virginity as a man?Well, those women don't deserve much attention then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:39 AM |
| 1 | All of this back and forth is pointless, women will always have an extreme advantage ONLY because men are way hornier and therefore want and need women way more than women will ever want or need men. It all comes back to this very basic fact.What do you find so crazy? That women can successfully raise children on their own? You must live in a very conservative place; I know lots of such women and they're are happy and raising very well adjusted children. Some are divorced, other single and having chosen motherhood or adoption, being straight or lesbian. Nothing insane in it or deserving the kind of comment you've written. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:38 AM |
| 0 | At what age does it become weird to not have lost your virginity as a man?No woman laughs at a man whatever his status is. We might laugh or scorn bitter, hateful, misogynistic incels who spread hate and misinformation about women and relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 12:14 PM |
| 1 | At what age does it become weird to not have lost your virginity as a man?Don't get stressed about this, it'll happen when it happens and nobody else (friends, romantic partners) need to know about your virginity status. There's enough information for you to read (not porn) to have you successfully going through your first time when it does finally arrive. Stressing about this is the real problem, not virginity in itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 12:13 PM |
| 10 | Why is everything about being so primal?Wonderful post. And I agree these RP men would be shocked if they realized how important matriarchal societies were. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/06/22 11:56 AM |
| 2 | Why is everything about being so primal?I totally agree. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/06/22 11:55 AM |
| 0 | Why is everything about being so primal?Because they're very primal themselves. I was just reading the answers to a post in such a group about "why women need to be submissive", and really, the answers seem to come from 12 year olds having their first sexual fantasies. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/06/22 11:54 AM |
| 5 | What is the appeal of submission in women?Well, since you also accepted women's answers: After reading some of the answers of the men who want submissive women, most of them seem to have an inflated ego which probably has underneath a deep inferiority complex. They don't want a real, complex human being next to them, they want a kind of real size doll, a Stepford wife who will comply with all their whims and never discuss anything they say. They think they're powerful men exercising their power, when in reality it's a very childish psyc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 11:52 AM |
| 1 | People seriously underestimate negative survivorship bias in datingWe were talking about the quality or lack of it of the person getting married, not of whom they choose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 06:41 PM |
| 0 | Why do people assume that men that don’t get dates are basement dwelling neck beards?On their lack of interest for sex Being very fluent in German, I find your handle very revealing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 06:40 PM |
| 1 | How to spot good women?Body count is an absurd concept. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 06:38 PM |
| 2 | How to spot good women?Fantasies are fantasies, not something one would like to experience in real life. I'm not a man. Spitting sounds really disgusting, I wonder what kind of women you're sleeping with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 06:37 PM |
| 1 | How to spot good women?I totally agree!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:32 PM |
| 1 | How to spot good women?I totally agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:32 PM |
| 0 | How to spot good women?"Fucking a girl hard and dominantly" totally absurd advice made by unsuccessful men geared towards other men. Learn how to pleasure a woman, learn about erogenous zones, how to touch her, caress her, make her enjoy herself from being touched, given quality oral sex, being treated in a generous and empathetic way in bed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:31 PM |
| 1 | How to spot good women?I totally agree. Most of the advice you'll get here will be either from rather inexperienced men or from those who are pick up artists or bitter after repeated failures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:28 PM |
| 2 | How to spot good women?They lie because there's a lot of horrible misogynistic people who judge a woman by her past sexual experience, as it often happens in here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:27 PM |
| 3 | How to spot good women?Absolutely not true, terrible mysoginistic advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:26 PM |
| 2 | How to spot good women?Well, that narrows down a bit what your problems are. Look for financially independent, self sufficient women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:25 PM |
| 3 | How to spot good women?Don't go from being in a cult to accepting the ideas of another cult like the RP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:22 PM |
| 2 | How to spot good women?I don't think the people on the PP are the best judges of character, to be honest. Probably your women friends who know you and know the girls you're interested in will be much better help. In any case, don't rush into things, try to get to know a girl first before developing feelings or starting a relationship. Look back on your past failures to see what went wrong. Most of the advice from men in this forum will come from inexperienced men, men with issues with women, pick up artists, misogynis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:20 PM |
| 0 | Why do people assume that men that don’t get dates are basement dwelling neck beards?It seems you haven't been very lucky finding women, or maybe those you found were not very interested in what you had to offer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:13 PM |
| 2 | Why do people assume that men that don’t get dates are basement dwelling neck beards?Those are very dismissive comments that indeed some women might post but I would never do. My advice is very different: assuming the basics are covered (hygiene, grooming, job or study, etc), go out and socialize in places where women are, like classes, activities etc. Be friendly and not eager to turn every encounter you make into a date. If you do get a date, listen to what the woman has to say, be kind and polite, don't overwhelm her with things that are only interesting to you. And if you do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:09 PM |
| 1 | All of this back and forth is pointless, women will always have an extreme advantage ONLY because men are way hornier and therefore want and need women way more than women will ever want or need men. It all comes back to this very basic fact.Well, that might be true, but it could easily be avoided with a certain degree of insight and acceptance of what the realistic prospects of any human being are. Media in general offer very misleading images about body size, wealth, happiness, youth etc which any intelligent person realized are just mirages and not at the reach of the vast majority of the population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:05 PM |
| 2 | The dating market place is changing simply because women don’t need men like we need women.That could be easily avoided with a well organized register of donors and births. And intermarriage has been happening for centuries in small communities; beyond a very close degree of proximity, it's not such a big deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:02 PM |
| 1 | The dating market place is changing simply because women don’t need men like we need women.Not true: "Reasons: Conflict, arguing, irretrievable breakdown in the relationship Lack of commitment Infidelity / extramarital affairs Distance in the relationship / lack of physical intimacy Communication problems between partners Domestic violence, verbal, physical, or emotional abuse by a partner Realization that one’s spouse has different values / morals Substance abuse / alcohol addiction Absence of romantic intimacy / love One partner not carrying their weight in the marriage Financial pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 12:39 PM |
| 1 | All of this back and forth is pointless, women will always have an extreme advantage ONLY because men are way hornier and therefore want and need women way more than women will ever want or need men. It all comes back to this very basic fact.Yes, but what we were discussing is that the pressure young men feel nowadays to have constant and abundant sex with hundreds of attractive women as if it were a life or death issue has never existed before and it's a product of social media and online dating. And an impossible dream because most women are not interested in it. Lots of people can desire having lots of things.. Having holidays all year long, having lots of friends, not ageing, never getting old or sick. Most of those things are d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 12:36 PM |
| 3 | All of this back and forth is pointless, women will always have an extreme advantage ONLY because men are way hornier and therefore want and need women way more than women will ever want or need men. It all comes back to this very basic fact.Myself and all of my close friends have found their romantic partners after having friendly relationships with them for a while. Of course, if you prolong the friend zone for ages, you're turning it into a kind of cage from which it's difficult to escape for both parties. But a reasonable period of friendship first can give you very valuable information about how this person is and behaves, things that can get quite blurred when feelings and sex start. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 12:24 PM |
| 2 | All of this back and forth is pointless, women will always have an extreme advantage ONLY because men are way hornier and therefore want and need women way more than women will ever want or need men. It all comes back to this very basic fact.Being emotional and sensual is something that shows, even in the friend zone, and that can lead to s situation where the sexual intelligence can be then explored. I've been reading this subreddit for a while now, and quite a lot of the men in here seem to express themselves in a harsh, demeaning, even insulting way towards women (including the OP in here): I'm sure that can also be perceived by womem and act as a deterrent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 12:21 PM |
| 1 | RedPill’s dogma on Women’s OptionsYes, I fully understand what you mean. I of course don't "count" at all offers from strangers either. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/06/22 12:14 PM |
| 1 | It’s a numbers game for men, but women don’t want to be treated like numbers?Absolutely not true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 12:12 PM |
| 3 | The dating market place is changing simply because women don’t need men like we need women.Nothing nebulous about: not wanting to be cheated on wanting to be listened, not wanting to be demeaned, verbally or physically mistreated wanting to share house chores wanting to practice sex in a way leading to woman's pleasure and orgasm wanting to spend quality time together etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 12:12 PM |
| 1 | All of this back and forth is pointless, women will always have an extreme advantage ONLY because men are way hornier and therefore want and need women way more than women will ever want or need men. It all comes back to this very basic fact.Between the times of Genghis Khan and nowadays there have been many other societal models; in most of them, men had just a few sexual encounters (often with sex workers) before settling down to marital sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 12:09 PM |
| 1 | Got bullied in High school, left me to change myself, that's when I lookssmaxed and found the redpill. Before and After!There was absolutely nothing ugly about the first picture, you were charming and somehow glowing with hope and something innocent. There's nothing bad in looking a bit feminine. The second picture shows a fine young man like many others, I do wonder what the kid in the first one would have evolved into if not obsessed by that red pill ideology. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/06/22 01:43 AM |
| 1 | RedPill’s dogma on Women’s OptionsI find it interesting how you count your "offers" because I had a similar thought not long ago. When reminiscing about my love life, I only count the men I was interested in, never the men who were interested in me and I rejected. With some of those men there was something physical or even sex before rejecting them, yet I never even think of them as "past sexual experiences". | /r/ExRedPill | 18/06/22 01:37 AM |
| 6 | All of this back and forth is pointless, women will always have an extreme advantage ONLY because men are way hornier and therefore want and need women way more than women will ever want or need men. It all comes back to this very basic fact.Go to sleep then, not much will be lost in this discussion with you gone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 01:20 AM |
| 0 | All of this back and forth is pointless, women will always have an extreme advantage ONLY because men are way hornier and therefore want and need women way more than women will ever want or need men. It all comes back to this very basic fact.Since this is a very recent occurrence and most men for centuries didn't feel that constant urge towards sex with multiple women, it's very clear that there's a strong societal conditioning in this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 01:18 AM |
| 2 | It’s a numbers game for men, but women don’t want to be treated like numbers?That totally depend in how you proceed. If you take forever to make a move, then yes. If after a reasonable amount of time you have feelings for the women and can reasonably guess she has them for you, and you make your move in a polite, respectful way, there's no need to be stuck in the friend zone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 12:54 AM |
| 5 | All of this back and forth is pointless, women will always have an extreme advantage ONLY because men are way hornier and therefore want and need women way more than women will ever want or need men. It all comes back to this very basic fact.Yes, being bored by this is a clear signal of lack of interest in improving in this field. Good attitude (irony). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 12:47 AM |
| 5 | All of this back and forth is pointless, women will always have an extreme advantage ONLY because men are way hornier and therefore want and need women way more than women will ever want or need men. It all comes back to this very basic fact.That state of starvation you describe depends greatly on what men think they need and the stimuli they subject themselves to, like porn. Before the advent of online dating and widespread porn, most men would have a rather limited number of sexual partners before settling down and marrying, and after that maybe a couple of flings or sex with prostitutes. Nowadays they choose to be exposed to a constant stream of bodies and faces by choosing social media that display them, or using social media, p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 12:46 AM |
| 3 | The dating market place is changing simply because women don’t need men like we need women.There are lots of female engineers too and lots of women working in almost any field. Women are increasingly occupying all sectors which were traditionally in charge of men, the opposite is not happening at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Why are female characters sexualized in anime?Also, Japan is a society where sex between humans is steadily declining, and other activities are being sexualized. | /r/ExRedPill | 17/06/22 11:58 PM |
| 1 | I honestly believe women just aren't interested in sex.They seem not to be doing a good job, since most women are not particularly interested in casual sex, or only during a very brief period in their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 11:49 PM |
| 2 | The dating market place is changing simply because women don’t need men like we need women.As I say, just a few donors could solve the supply problem for many years, since sperm can be frozen, and a good organization of the system, with birth certificates in which a name (even a made up one) for the donor was included, could prevent incest between half siblings. Not an ideal world, but totally feasible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 11:47 PM |
| 2 | If women are hypergamous, what really is the point of trying to have a relationship with one?Not my experience at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 11:45 PM |
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