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This is not earth-shattering news to women, nor are most women denying this. We have been shouting from the rooftops that women are, in fact, people, just like men, for ages now. Some people do bad things. It's part of human nature that a percentage of people--men and women alike--will display anti-social behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:15 PM
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It makes you wonder how many users are actually bots designed to create even more division, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:25 PM
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Committed relationships don't necessarily mean marriages. Lots of people are in long-term relationships without being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:24 PM
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Even in the past, most relationships didn't usually begin through the man cold-approaching the woman, who, at the time, was a complete stranger. That was never the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:01 PM
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No, only women could be committed by their husbands. Wives had no authority to commit their husbands. The American History of Silencing Women Through Psychiatry
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:18 PM
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Exactly. Society does not deserve to continue on if it can only do so by essentially enslaving half of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:06 PM
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These comments from you are just horrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:01 PM
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The majority of young men are still having sex. Contrary to what you believe, most men are not incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:20 PM
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Notice he didn't respond to your question. I think we both know his answer. Oh, the hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:02 PM
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I just went through a divorce. Yes, both parents have to ask for custody. The person you are responding doesn't know what they are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:23 PM
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I’ve had a decent number of partners, and I completely agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:15 PM
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Women don’t obsess over former sex partners like some of you guys think they do. This really seems like more of a male hangup than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:57 PM
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I have enough faith in men that most will not go around raping and enslaving women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:35 PM
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The average age gap in relationships is only 2-3 years. The majority of relationships do not have a significant age gap. Most women do not want to date much older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:01 PM
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And I'm sure you think the working partner should automatically be the man. How convenient for your argument. Furthermore, even though this is the arrangement you specifically state is best for society, I'm guessing you'll still go on to bitch about women seeking out providers and being gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:32 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:20 PM
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All of my long-term relationships (5 in total) were with men who started out as friends. Now, these guys weren't super close friends in the sense that we would talk every day and hang out on a one-on-one basis, but they were guys that I knew through my social circles and we would often hang out and party on the weekends in mixed-gender groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:19 PM
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For me, it’s very telling how so many men claim that they don’t care about a woman’s education or career, or sometimes if she even has a job. For those men (and it seems to be a lot of them), a woman’s looks and her “agreeableness” (sometimes phrased differently) are all they care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:46 PM
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I’m so sorry for your experiences and the way your experiences have been invalidated at times. It’s not misandrist to point out things that happened to you, regardless of what some in the sub might say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:58 PM
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As a survivor of both sexual assault and domestic violence, nothing infuriates me more than people who downplay our lived experiences or treat us as though we are paranoid or irrational. When you say that it’s “frustrating AF,” I couldn’t agree more. I’ve experienced violence men who were both intimate partners and men who were complete strangers to me. I don’t hate all men or even think the majority of men are bad, but it irritates me to no end when my experiences (and those of other women) are…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:32 PM
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Wow, what a charmer you are. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:25 PM
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I was a wild party girl and every single one-time casual encounter I had was the result of a night of heaving drinking. The majority of the guys were very average looking guys who just happened to be out partying at the same time as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:27 PM
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CNN did multiple stories on the rape academy and included some of the messages and other actual infomration.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:37 PM
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I have a son who is 16. He and his friends think Clavicular is utterly ridiculous and make fun of him. He told me that nobody takes him seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:11 PM
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Exactly. And 13 years olds aren't typically even in high school yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:26 AM
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You do realize that at age 26, some people are just getting started in their careers, right? Take someone who went to graduate or law school. They very likely aren't going to have the income just yet to be financially self-sufficient. And that's just one example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:03 PM
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So you would be okay with being in a potentially sexless marriage? Because if the woman doesn't genuinely desire you and want to be with you, you're mostly going to have issues in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:54 PM
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I have had similar experiences. All of my long-term relationships started out as casual encounters or FWBs, and the men made it well known that they wanted something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:23 PM
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No, because they want consistent and free access to sex through a girlfriend or a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:01 PM
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Men who actually fight for custody are awarded at least joint custody in the vast majority of cases. The thing is, many men won’t even attempt to fight for custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:58 PM
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He is very clearly a man who hates women, which is why it's weird that he'd want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:08 PM
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A lot of Gen X would have been raised by Silent Gen parents. I'm Gen X but I'm at the youngest end of the generation having been born in 1980, and my parents are older Boomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 10:30 PM
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I am a thin woman who is a mother. I take an antidepressant to ease my anxiety, which I've dealt with for all of my adult life. You have have some really ignorant assumptions about this matter. It's not only fat, childless, single women who are on antidepressants.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:55 PM
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Many middle-aged women take antidepressants to help with the depression and anxiety that often comes along with perimenopause and menopause.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:52 PM
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According to US census data, only 14.9% of women aged 45 and older are childless. In 2014, 16.7% of women aged 45 and older were childless, so there are actually fewer childless women now than there were a decade ago. Women are simply having kids later in life, and they are having fewer children--often just 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:46 PM
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I know this is an old post, but the statistic you've provided must refer to younger women. Because as of 2024, 88% of women in the United States aged 45 and older have had at least one child. Women are simply having children at older ages and they are typically fewer children than in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 11:15 AM
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He, of course, does not have one single care about how things were going for women back then. In at least one comment here, he says that he hopes, or looks forward to, the Islamic takeover of the West. So he's fantasizing about women suffering under Sharia law. Such a standup gentleman; I can't imagine why women don't like him. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:44 PM
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Do you think that this is new/recent behavior? Before feminism, men sometimes used to have whole ass second families that were kept secret. Or sometimes the other woman (and often children) were known to the men's wives, but there really wasn't much the wives could do about it. Even if the woman could prove fault in divorce court due to infidelity, which wasn't an easy feat, it was extremely difficult back then for women to survive financially on their own (and contrary to popular belief, alimon…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:34 PM
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Does your country provide equal rights and opportunities for women? If not, then of course women have to pair of with men like you because they don't have much choice in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:30 PM
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Exactly. There's a very good reason why all of the dating apps skew heavily toward male users. If the apps were so great, far more women would use them and the percentages of men and women would be more equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:27 PM
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The Whatever and Fresh & Fit podcasts, along with their groups on various social media sites that attract a great deal of commentary from people, usually men who are saying misogynistic things
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:56 PM
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PPD usually does a demographics survey every year. From what I can recall, most of the men are indeed single. I'm not sure about neurodivergent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:24 PM
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I’m from the Midwest and see fat couples—even morbidly obese couples—literally everywhere I go all the time. It’s actually quite common.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:20 PM
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I think he's unattractive anyway, at least facially unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:30 PM
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Female breadwinners account for 16% of marriages in the US, as of 2023, I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:50 PM
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It’s actually not an uncommon scenario, usually when the wife is a SAHM. I’m in a lot of mom/women groups on various social media, and the amount of women who experience financial abuse is not low. Some housewives/SAHMs don’t even get an allowance, and they have to essentially beg for anything they need, let alone want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:49 PM
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Gang members and criminals are often surrounded by women who are drug addicts, prostitutes, or criminals themselves. Those women are far more likely than other women to be promiscuous and engage in impulsive, risk-taking behavior. So it's really no surprise that the men you described have far more sex partners than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:58 PM
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Lol It's super common for middle-aged divorced women to forego dating altogether. They often don't want anything to do with men. And many never married older women are perfectly content with their friendships, too. It's the middle-aged divorced men and older single, never married men who are more often desperate for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:03 PM
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And the guy you’re responding doesn’t need to worry about physical and sexual assault from those random women pestering him nearly as much as women do when random men pester them trying to get their attention. For women, it’s sometimes viewed as threatening, depending on the level of harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:59 PM
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But this doesn't really have anything to do with casual sex, specifically. Lots of men aren't virgins and have been in long-term serious relationships but haven't had loads of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 10:19 PM
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"most are also fine waiting for sex and below average men would wait indefinitely" Hahahaha, no. The majority of men, regardless of their looks, are not okay with waiting to have sex beyond a couple of dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:32 PM
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I don't think that's due to lack of success in dating for the women who've been previously married or partnered much of the time. It's common for divorced women, in particular, to opt out of dating altogether. I see it all the time in some of the divorce groups I'm a part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:31 PM
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Check out the Passport Bros sub sometime, and you'll see frequent comments about how American or Western women are unattractive and not worth pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:26 PM
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Doesn't the data show that even though men swipe on a much higher percentage of women, they send the majority of their messages to the most attractive women? Men even outright say that they swipe on a large number of women without even looking at their profiles because it's a "numbers game." Then if they get matches, they filter out the women they don't like. So I don't think swiping patterns alone really tell too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:12 PM
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What? You can't possibly be serious. Financial problems are one of the top reasons for depression and unhappiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:36 PM
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I’ve never had a man I’ve dated ask about my body count or past relationship experience in the early stages of dating. This seems to be a new trend, because I’m in my mid-forties, and nobody outside of those within certain religious communities would ask such questions 20 or 30 years ago. If a guy I was newly dating now asked about my body count, I wouldn’t lie but I wouldn’t answer, either, because I would know right then and there that he wasn’t someone I’d want to date. It screams either very…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:55 AM
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Submission in the bedroom often does not carry over into the rest of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:26 PM
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"Women should be relegated to a role of official spectators while men show their gladiatorial prowess, because that's what they already do." Your power fantasies are something else, man. Men like you are just irate that women no longer need to tether themselves to awful guys in order to survive. So you can view women as inferior all you want, but the majority of men have moved on from the backward ass mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:24 PM
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What did he say that was wrong? He wants an equal partner, which presumably means that both partners show respect to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:53 PM
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Of course TermAggravating isn't referring to every woman. But she's right in saying that the majority of women don't want that antiquated male leader/female submissive dynamic. Most women, in fact, desire an egalitarian dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:07 AM
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You couldn't be more wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:33 PM
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Most women know that a large percentage of men only care about looks. You're trying to spin this as a positive for women, and it's absolutely not. Nobody wants a partner who only cares about their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:09 PM
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It's primarily concerned with socioeconomic and education levels but I've never seen it defined as level of physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:01 AM
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Interesting. With how common it is for men to have major anger problems and punch holes in the wall, scream, or assault their partners, I'm not buying that many men don't act like children by throwing major tantrums when they don't get their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 11:33 PM
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It's so very obvious that a lot of the guys in this sub have never been in a relationship. Most relationships these days are egalitarian, but to hear these guys talk, you'd think they are some statistical anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 11:20 PM
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Respect is a two-way street. One of the reasons the divorce rate is high is that women don’t feel valued and respected in their marriages. You might insist on leading, but lost women aren’t interested in that dynamic. And for good reason. We aren’t children and don’t need our romantic relationships to be modeled after a parent-child dynamic where one person has authority over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 11:04 PM
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I think that was the point. Since TRP views women as children, we are perceived as deserving of less respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:32 PM
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What? You can't be serious. Many guys actually strive to be ran-through hoes. They eagerly pursue casual sex with as many willing partners as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:28 PM
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Everyone is addicted to social media--women and men both.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:47 PM
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I’m not sure which country you’re from, but the US doesn’t really have parental leave to speak of. There’s FMLA, but it’s only for a maximum of 12 weeks, and companies don’t have to pay anything during that time so many women have to go back to work extremely soon (sometimes within just days of giving birth). Every other developed country in the world offers robust, paid leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:16 PM
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Online Dating--The dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 08:13 PM
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I don't think anyone is really disputing that women, on average, have far more options on OLD. So what? What do women need to be accountable for? Be specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:20 PM
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This is terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 11:16 PM
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No, absolutely not. I prefer a fit man myself (and yes, I'm also thin and fit). But if a guy has mostly photos of himself in the gym (which is relatively common), then he's likely to be arrogant. And this is especially true if he appears to be roided out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:15 PM
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Doubtful. The reality is that men are simply hornier than women, which is why men outnumber women on the dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:09 PM
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There is a woman who runs a popular group called Burned Haystack Method that aims to do exactly what you're suggesting--teaching other women how to analyze men's OLD profiles and messages for details and rhetoric that might indicate red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:06 PM
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People can meet through social media or other online spaces, too, not just OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:23 PM
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Correction: Men took away women's rights, and then gave them back over the past hundred years or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:59 PM
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You do realize that people are different, and just because you are unhappy single doesn't mean that all other single women are unhappy too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:24 PM
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If it was a fundamental need to survive, then all of these women who are single would voluntarily date whichever men are available. But they aren't choosing doing that. If they can't find a man they really want to date, they remain single. So this shows that romantic relationships aren't a fundamental need.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:16 PM
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Dating is supposed to be discriminatory. At no time throughout history have all people partnered up with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:09 PM
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If women are such failures, then why are young women outperforming men in education and the workforce?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:12 PM
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I really don’t think casual sex was rare in the 70s and 80s at all. In fact, I think there more people engaging in casual sex then than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:47 PM
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No it’s not. Most people do not want their romantic relationships to resemble that of a parent-child relationship. It’s fucking weird. It’s also weird that some people think the man should be the leader in the relationship. Again, this resembles a parent-child dynamic and seems totally inappropriate for an adult relationship. Most of us want egalitarian relationships where both partners pull their own weight and work together to compromise on matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:28 PM
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I think OP might be from a different culture where long-term relationships without marriage are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:41 PM
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This is so true. I’ve always dated guys who’d been with plenty of women, and none of them cared about body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:21 PM
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This is absolutely ridiculous. Women are not interchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:07 PM
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I'm a woman who has had a decent number of sex partners. The majority of casual encounters I had were during my party years, and the guys were mostly just average looking. They just happened to party like I did and so we would just sort of find each other or know each other as acquaintances through our mutual friend groups. I certainly wasn't going to clubs looking for "Chads." I just liked to have a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:55 PM
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There are similar groups for men to discuss women they've dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:34 PM
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No it's not. I've never once had a guy I'm dating ask me about my sexual past. It's a very weird and unusual thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:17 PM
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Why do so many of you guys here assume that all women have had a bunch of hookups in their past?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:15 PM
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I don't think Lilith is talking about most men in her posts. She is instead referring to men who are red-pilled and black-pilled or men who identify with manosphere rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:03 PM
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As a thin woman, I can assure you that my life is far from easy. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:18 PM
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New research from February 2025 shows that men are more likely to leave their sick wives. Why More Marriages End When Wives Become Ill Than When Husbands Do | Psychology Today
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:57 PM
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"Men should lead, protect, and provide for their families without complaint and women should manage the household and be a companion for their husbands without complaint." No. That's what YOU want for your relationship, but many, if not most, women these days, do not want that dynamic, and that's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:44 PM
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It’s not different at all. You’re just a hypocrite.
/r/RPChristians27/01/26 11:38 AM
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Most states have gone to default 50/50 custody, unless one of the parents has proven to be abusive or has documented substance abuse problems. There are different ways to implement 50/50 custody. A common way is by doing week-on/week-off (child goes to one parent for a week, and then the other parent for a week, and then continue on the pattern).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:54 PM
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This isn't true. Men who actually fight for custody receive it like 90% of the time. The truth is that a whole lot of men don't fight for custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:53 PM
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You have to prioritize an infant over everything else. There is literally no other way around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:45 PM
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If the only way that a civilization can continue is by oppressing and subjugating half the population, then it deserves to die out. The only way forward is for men to evolve and embrace egalitarian values.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:22 PM
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You seem to be unaware that women can both be mothers and work, right? In fact, the majority of mothers in Western countries, at least, work. It's not the either/or situation that so many of you red pillers and tradcons insist upon. I, a mother, have always worked, and my son is a fantastic, well-rounded teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:04 PM
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No. Most young women are liberal, and the majority are refusing to date conservative men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:34 PM
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I'm sure he's pissed about feminism and women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:27 PM
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My ex-husband and I were acquaintances (or friends of friends, I guess you could say) first before we got together. We partied together in a big mixed-gender group. I ended up hooking up with him one night after a party. We were pretty much inseparable after that and ended up marrying a couple years later. So, no, my experience does not mesh with this theory you’re asking about. I would never marry a guy I wasn’t extremely attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:19 AM
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Don’t women in Afghanistan (at least) require a male chaperone to move about outside their homes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:11 PM
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In the United States, at least, conservatives are hell-bent on regressing on women's rights and making some strides in doing so, so feminism is probably more important now than it's been in 20 years or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:50 PM
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All of my long-feel relationships started out as hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:08 PM
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But your partner had a life before you came along.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:50 PM
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You're right. I didn't have sex with him very often toward the end. Did you miss the part where I'm sick? I have severe GI issues, including constant nausea and vomiting. That makes sex extremely difficult, if not impossible. Unless he wanted to end up covered in my vomit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:32 AM
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It's pretty straightforward, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:30 AM
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Kids in that type of situation are typically not immediately adopted out to other families. They usually go into foster care first, and then may or may not be officially adopted by one of the foster families.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:23 AM
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I am a divorced single mom. Just because I coparent with my ex-husband doesn't mean I'm not a single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:16 AM
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You seem to be under the impression that most single moms had kids with men they had one-night stands with or very brief relationships with. In fact, a very significant percentage of single mothers were once married. Many were married to their exes for many years before divorce happened for any number of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:13 PM
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I am a single mother because my husband had an affair and left me for the woman after I got sick with a chronic health condition. So I didn’t “choose” to become a single mom. He left after 18 years together, and I had no inclination that he would ever do such a thing. Edit: I just wanted to add that my ex and I share 50/50 custody of our son. So it’s not like my son is without his dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:09 PM
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Damn, dude. My ex loved using my toys on me. You sound kind of lame, to be honest. Also, for the record, I don’t care about a guy watching porn. Ill even watch it with him sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:02 PM
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It honestly doesn't sound like you've ever had sex, or at least much sex, if you think all women are the same in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:47 PM
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As a woman who has been with a decent number of men in my life, I can assure you that a big dick is not enough to guarantee good sex. Some of the best sex I've ever had has been with guys who were average in size.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:45 PM
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It was actually the opposite for me as a women as I got older.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:40 PM
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I can tell you that young men are also interested in casual relationships with older women. It’s very much a thing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:15 PM
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I'm very sorry for your loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:06 PM
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About 3 months. But I wasn't trying to date or sleep with anyone, and I wasn't socializing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:16 AM
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We can probably conceive of rare scenarios where someone who is otherwise a fairly normal person might react a certain way and end up murdering someone. With rape, I don't think there is literally any scenario where something like that accidentally or justifiably happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:44 PM
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It's not actually very common in the real world for men to freak out over a woman's past (assuming she wasn't like a prostitute, porn star, or something extreme). In fact, it's not even common for guys to ask about "body count" outside of men who are very religious or young and inexperienced themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:39 PM
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“Incel” is now more closely associated with “misogynist” than “virgin.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:51 PM
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Seriously. This has to be one of the top 5 most unhinged posts I’ve ever read here. I have secondhand embarrassment. This dude is in dire need of touching grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:56 PM
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This isn't true. In many European countries, the norm is for couples to go 50/50, right from the very first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:25 PM
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She's not wrong. You must just be oblivious to this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:32 PM
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Yes, for most of history post-agricultural revolution, both spouses and children over a certain age contributed to farming duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:28 PM
1

What's TRM?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:11 PM
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She is very obviously trolling and making fun of so-called "high-value alpha males" who make ridiculous lists like this. It's amazing how many of you don't recognize trolling and rage-baiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:09 PM
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Interesting. There are other studies that suggest that both men lie more often than women, and that men are better at telling lies. Face-to-Face Lying: Gender and Motivation to Deceive - PMC Men Are More Selfishly Dishonest Than Women | Psychology Today
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:37 AM
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Grindr crashes whenever there is a conservation convention, so I'm pretty sure a lot of conservative men simply aren't openly revealing that they are gay or bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:53 PM
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It always amuses me how so many conservatives view liberals as having that stereotypical look of "short blue hair, covered in tattoos, septum ring, and obese." Like, I am a liberal but men often think I'm a country-music-loving conservative because I look very stereotypically feminine--I'm thin/toned with long blonde-ish hair, and I like to wear makeup and curl my hair. Most of the liberal women I know don't look like what these guys in this sub imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:43 PM
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20 years ago, I was attacked while jogging on a bike path and nearly raped. My attacker was a typical middle-aged white guy. Fortunately, someone else came long the path as the guy was on top of me and pulled him off, or I don't know if I would have only been raped or possibly even murdered. My attacker fled but was later apprehended and went on to serve 3.5 years in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:22 PM
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I lurk in a couple of conservative tradwife groups on FB. You're absolutely spot-on with conservatives thinking "it couldn't happen to me." I see this play out frequently in those groups when someone mentions if other stay-at-home moms/tradwives have prepared ahead in the event of a potential future divorce. Many women will claim that they don't need to have a backup plan in place because they chose the right husbands and so divorce will never happen to them. Of course, nobody goes into marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:13 PM
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I am a 5'4", 120-pound woman, and I am mentally ill (severe anxiety). Plenty of other thinner women are mentally ill as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 11:22 AM
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Are you sure about that? People can’t control their age, and many men here sure love to say that women are “expired” and lose value after age 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 09:05 PM
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"The overwhelming majority of women(at least US based) love Older men." If this were the case, then there would be a lot more marriages and relationships with an age gap of 10 or more years, but there aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:12 PM
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I agree with this. Both men and women are in their prime between their mid-twenties and mid-thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:35 PM
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The same exact thing happened to me. I'm in several divorce support groups on FB, and women who were SAHMs prior to divorce almost always struggle to a very significant extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:24 PM
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If having kids and raising them is as important as men claim, then why don't men like you offer to take on that role while your wife works?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:39 PM
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Alimony is only awarded in 10% of divorces now. And even if it is awarded, it's often not that much money because your average breadwinner husband doesn't make that much to begin with. The majority of women who were SAHMs and were later faced with divorce struggle a great deal, at least for the first few years after the divorce (if not longer).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:20 AM
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What do you mean no man is undesirable? Of course there are undesirable men AND women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:59 PM
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No. Patriarchy developed after the agricultural revolution some 10,000 - 12,000 years ago. Humans have existed for at least 200,000 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:17 PM
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Women naturally have more fat. For example, if you look at the body fat percentages of elite athletes, male athletes at that level tend to have between 6-13% body fat, while female athletes tend to have 14-20% body fat. I am a thin woman myself and likely have a higher body fat percentage than a thin man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:36 PM
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Most women work to the end of their pregnancy and take a short maternity leave (in the US at least). I took 8 weeks off, which were fully paid by company, and then I was right back to work. Not all companies pay employees during their maternity leave, but my point still stands that most women just take a short, company-approved leave from work. Working women aren't taking years off and losing their skills set or damaging their chances at a promotion or raise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:10 PM
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I recently went through a divorce. I joined a number of divorce support groups, some of which were women only. Everything you’ve said is 100% how reality plays out for the majority of women who were SAHMs/homemakers. Alimony is relatively rare. And even when it’s awarded, it’s not much money because the average man doesn’t earn that much money in the first place. The only women making it big after divorce are the former wives of very wealthy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 11:42 AM
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More and more women are dating men who are less educated and earn less money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:06 PM
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"And you get laid more by being redpill" Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:02 PM
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Women are far less likely to sleep with a man they hate than men are to sleep with a woman they hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:56 PM
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Bull shit. Men just like to get laid, and many will enter into relationships solely for the purpose of having a stead supply of sex. That's not love, my dude. That's not to say all men are like that, as there are many who partner for genuine love and companionship. But plenty partner for sex and/or for having a live-in maid and cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 07:40 PM
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In reality, sex accounts for a small percentage of time in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:17 PM
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I can assure you that many unattractive men are looking for casual sex only, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:02 PM
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And what's really bizarre is that those men who are dismissive about women's education and careers are very often the same men who complain about divorce laws and worry about being "divorce-raped" in the event of a potential future divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:53 PM
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Most marriages and long-term relationships are dual income, with both partners contributing to bill paying. I have no idea how you're not aware of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:46 PM
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Young women are not having as much sex as before. According to recent studies, sexlessness has risen for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 06:04 PM
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Nobody thinks you should be upset with those deadbeat fathers as long as you aren't one of those guys who complains about single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:36 PM
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Except that the dating apps are still wildly imbalanced with far more men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:42 PM
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Exactly. It’s a myth that most men who want custody don’t get it. In 90% of cases where the father asks for custody, he gets it (meaning either 50/50 joint custody or full custody).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 12:37 PM
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Newer data suggests that this trend has changed. Egalitarian couples now have the most sex. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/meet-catch-and-keep/201804/are-you-an-egalitarian-couple From the study cited: "Egalitarian couples reported having the most sex — nearly 7 times per month — which was a significantly greater frequency than conventional or counter-conventional couples. This was an exciting finding, given that data from the 1990s showed sexual frequency was lowest for those in egalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 07:36 PM
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And even though stay-at-home moms aren't rare, they aren't the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 11:08 PM
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In Afghanistan, more women than men commit suicide, whereas in the vast majority of countries, men commit more suicides. It's not at all surprising, given the hellish circumstances in which the Afghan women live.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:48 PM
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I just wanted to chime in here and say that I don't think it's super common for a man to be sent to jail for non-payment of child support. While yes, it can and has happened, there are many, many men who are years behind in child support payments and haven't served a day in jail. I'm in various mom groups in FB and regularly see women say that their ex-husbands/baby daddies haven't paid a dime in support in years but have had no repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:28 PM
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Far fewer relationships today are transactional since many women have their careers and income and don't need to partner up for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:40 PM
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And her husband or boyfriend knows that she genuinely likes him and isn't with him because she needs money to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 07:35 PM
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Women not wanting to fuck some men doesn’t mean they are “against” them. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:45 PM
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I don't know. I'm in my mid-forties and have had five long-term relationships in my life. All of my relationships started with guys who were first friends of mine. Now, they weren't "besties" in the sense that I would call and text them all the time or just hang out one-on-one. But they were guys that I hung out with in mixed groups and socialized a lot with prior to dating them. By the time I dated them, I knew them pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:29 PM
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Maybe not always, but it’s often tied to anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:06 PM
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This is one of the most accurate comments I've ever read in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:37 PM
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Alimony is only awarded in 10% of divorces. And in most of those cases, it’s short-term alimony. Lifetime alimony is very rarely awarded anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 04:20 PM
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Are you not aware that divorced people pay child support, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:02 PM
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I'm a part of several divorce support groups, and its not super uncommon for spouses to utilize the services of a forensic accounting firm during divorce proceedings precisely because people try to hide assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:41 PM
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The virginity rates for both men and women have climbed in recent years, but it's not as bad as you're suggesting. 10% of men ages 22-34 are virgins, whereas 7% of women in that same age cohort are virgins. Number of Virgins in America Hits Record High - Newsweek
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 03:39 PM
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Many women who regularly participate in this sub are mothers, including myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:36 AM
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"Data so overwhelmingly shows majority of women are dating for short term relationships..." Where is this data? I have seen data that shows more women are delaying marriage and kids, but that doesn't automatically mean they are all prioritizing short-term relationships (hookups and FWBs). Some of those women are likely in long-term, committed relationships (without marriage), and still others are choosing not to date at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:59 PM
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Yeah, it's well known that blue-collar workplaces, in particular, which employ mostly men, are often incredibly toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:57 AM
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There are people in the highest positions of the U.S. government right now trying to roll back women's rights, so feminism is still very much needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:03 PM
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You are not being abused because you can't get laid. Do you even hear yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:25 PM
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The old "anything that doesn't conform to my preconceived worldview is false" argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:42 AM
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You are advocating for mass sex slavery. Full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:11 PM
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Most women would rather struggle on a lower income and not have a cushy life than essentially be forced to pair up with men they aren't attracted to at all and don't like. The latter situation sounds awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:59 PM
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Many women live with female roommates throughout their twenties. It's actually quite common.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:57 PM
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From what I've read, young single women are now out-earning young single men in multiple large cities in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:55 PM
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Are you under the impression that most single women receive government assistance?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:53 PM
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StAtistics actually show that women are far more likely than men to end up in poverty or struggling significantly after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:49 PM
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I think a good chunk of the women who are happy being single are those who are divorced or separated from a long-term relationship, rather than women who have been perpetually single their whole lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:53 PM
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I am a 45 year old woman who just very recently divorced, and I have had no issues landing dates with very attractive men of all ages from the dating apps. I've also joined groups for women over 40, and the vast majority of them have no problems gaining interest, dates, and relationships with men they really like. The manosphere lied to you about women over 35 or 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:36 PM
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The suicide rate for women in Afghanistan is extremely high. So no, they are not happy being literal prisoners of their home.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:23 PM
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This is a completely unfair law, and I understand why someone would go to those lengths to be able to retire earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:50 PM
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It's less about being nice and more about having a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:28 AM
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The divorce rate is actually the lowest that it's been in 50 years. Divorce Rate at a 50-Year Low
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:13 PM
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Yes, "mother's little helper"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:12 PM
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I'm currently going through perimenopause and holy hell is it ever a roller coaster of emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:04 PM
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Men are 20% of stay-at-home parents, so there are obviously some women fine with that arrangement/dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 05:56 PM
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If a guy is physically unattractive to me, no amount of money can compensate for the lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:15 PM
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I joined a number of divorce support groups online following my husband's announcement that he was leaving me to be with another woman after I became ill with a chronic health condition. It's not exceedingly rare to read accounts of women whose husbands cheated and fathered children with their female affair partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 10:42 AM
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I can relate to it as well, and I was a full-blown alcoholic for a few years. I'm in recovery now but the social anxiety dominates my life. Even with medication, I can't seem to get a handle on it. It's so bad that I don't socialize with anyone at all anymore. When I was drinking, I was an extroverted party girl, but I was also literally destroying myself and ruining my life, so I had to quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:45 PM
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I have looked at recent data, but as of just 2 or 3 years ago, the majority of young men (18-29) were having sex even if they weren't in serious long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 06:18 PM
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I’ve recently divorced and am active in a bunch of divorce support groups. It’s common for the marital home to be sold and the money split between the spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:26 PM
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For the love of God, not everyone needs to have sex and reproduce. That has NEVER been the case in all of human history. And you know that but deliberately choose to pretend that that’s not the case so that you can make yourself out to be a victim who is in danger of dying from lack of wet dick. 🙄🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:14 PM
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For the love of God, not everyone needs to have sex and reproduce. That has NEVER been the case in all of human history. And you know that but deliberately choose to pretend that that’s not the case so that you can make yourself out to be a victim who is in danger of dying from lack of wet dick. 🙄🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:12 PM
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It’s not a problem until people like OP insinuate that their desire for sex is absolute necessary for survival and must be addressed at all costs. Obviously, that’s the issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:03 PM
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It’s ridiculous how they are too cowardly to say it with their chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:19 PM
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Plenty of men care about their daughter, wives, mothers, sisters, and friends. Sociopathic men do not care about their female loved ones’ rights, and those men are a minority overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:48 PM
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So, yes, alimony is only awarded in 10% of divorces, and men are the recipients of alimony in only a very, very small percentage of divorces. It’s important to keep in mind, though, that most people who receive alimony are at least middle aged, if not elderly. That’s because actual alimony (as opposed to short-term/temporary spousal support) is usually only granted to spouses who were married for decades. It was probably very unlikely for couples back in the 70s/80s/90s to operate with the man b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:03 PM
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Yeah, this is the most disturbing post I've ever read in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:17 PM
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Where is your evidence that most single women are engaging in hookups and FWB situationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:29 PM
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The reason women have a problem with men saying that “sex is a need” is that the implication is that women have some duty or obligation to “provide” sexual services to lonely or horny men. I’m sure that you can understand why women find that claim to be somewhat unnerving. It’s totally understandable that men who are romantically or sexually unsuccessful feel sadness and frustration, but it’s an entirely different matter to insinuate that women have some duty to give their bodies over to these m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:43 PM
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Plenty of dudes screenshot posts and comments from women's social media accounts and dating app profiles and post them in other groups to mock and criticize. Both genders do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:41 PM
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Right? I rolled my eyes so hard at his fake “statistic.” Some people deliberately choose to downplay the number of men who are dangerous, and instead choose to paint women as histrionic and paranoid. It pisses me off to no end. *And, yes, I’m aware that there are plenty of violent women out there as well. The difference is that violent women are far less likely to inflict violence on strangers than violent men are. Violent women will abuse people they know, such as their partners or family membe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:13 PM
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You’re not wrong, but I firmly believe that stranger incidents are more common than many are led to believe. Personally, I have been the victim of sexual assault twice in my life, and both incidents happened at the hands of men who were strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:06 PM
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Your post doesn’t match with your title. You seem to be suggesting in your post that women, in fact, aren’t overreacting or over-exaggerating about their safety concerns, and that those concerns are valid. Your main argument seems to be that it’s equally valid for men to have safety concerns, which I think is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:04 PM
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How many average progressive women do you personally know in real life? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:26 PM
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Of course. But I don’t think that’s what u/justdontsashay is referring to. Women who have careers and are independent often want egalitarian relationships, which I don’t think is unreasonable at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:25 PM
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I wouldn't call it a farce. They were together before he was injured in Iraq.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:24 PM
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I’m not super well-versed on history, but just look to the genetic evidence that Genghis Khan had a ton of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:03 AM
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Yep, the Earth and nature always wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:03 PM
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What percentage of men overall are wealthy and famous? It makes no sense to use this Sharpe example as evidence of a broader common trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:40 PM
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I agree. I don’t think she has the most beautiful face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:56 PM
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I don’t mind smoking and occasional recreational hard drug usage. I was a party girl myself back in the day and still smoke. Making raunchy, overly sexual or off-color jokes or comments is fine with me, as long as comments aren’t misogynistic or otherwise hateful. I would date a guy who isn’t financially stable in the sense that he has savings and retirement all planned out. I just want a man who has a job and can pay rent and the very basics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:58 AM
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Do you know how many women in religious fundamentalist communities are the victims of domestic violence at the hands of their seemingly straight-laced, upstanding husbands, some of whom are even pastors or other clergymen? Thinking that only tatted-up dudes are abusive is a very naive take.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:55 PM
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"But statistically most single women are still sexually active. The number of women in relationships is rapidly decreasing but the overall number of women having sex is relatively stable." Do you have a source for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:47 PM
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Lmao And all of the middle-aged dudes on the apps still attempting to live the fuckboy lifestyle aren’t? 🙄😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:55 PM
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"If you are a healthy male with a healthy level of testosterone, you really don't feel strong emotions all that frequently." People like you always forget that anger is an emotion, which lots of men are well known for regularly expressing in inappropriate ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:30 PM
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In 45% of American marriages now, the husband is neither the sole breadwinner nor the primary breadwinner. Obviously, this suggests that there are a whole lot of women out there who work and earn decent incomes. If financial losses in a potential divorce is such a major concern, then you could always marry a woman who isn’t financially repent on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:01 PM
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This post isn’t referring to sexual dynamics, though. Just because a woman is sexually submissive doesn’t mean she is willing to be submissive outside of the bedroom. You’re referring to something else entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:30 PM
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No, all women do not want a leader. Many of us prefer egalitarian relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:26 PM
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Men don’t bother to fight for custody most of the time. Those who do fight for custody receive 50/50 or full custody nearly all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:56 PM
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Thailand is pretty awful, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 10:03 AM
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Okay, so I'm someone whose relationships started out as friendships. However, when I say that I was friends with my past partners first, I don't mean that they were super close friendships. It was more of a "friend of friends" situation in each case. So for example, I was into the scene in my twenties, and I'd meet guys through some of my other friends at parties and concerts and what not, and then we'd see each other on the weekends at other parties going forward. Eventually we'd hookup after a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:06 AM
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"This is why I always suggest to guys on here to get Chad friends so they can see what raw attraction looks like." This isn't a bad idea. But it's less about Chad's looks and more about how he behaves around women. Most guys who are popular with women have more going for them than just looks or money; they are usually charismatic and often funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:00 AM
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According to Pew Research, 1 in 5 stay-at-home parents are fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:12 PM
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Well of that isn’t a rectally-sourced statistic. 🙄😂 The percentage of women who have ever done any form of sex work, including cam work, is estimated to be around 2%.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:56 PM
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I’m 45, and this was true for most guys even 25 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:54 PM
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When you say that men like women, you should specify that men like sex. Even in this sub, you’ll frequently see men say that they don’t enjoy hanging out with women as friends or romantic partners because they think women are boring or annoying. But those same guys still want women because they want access to sex. That’s not exactly men “liking” women-it’s “lusting” after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:01 PM
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I was going to comment the same thing. You’ll see occasional side discussions about important issues, such as the draft or boys falling behind in school, but the primary focus of the manosphere by far is sex and dating (or the lack thereof, I should say).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:52 PM
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Something like 20% of women have been the victim of an attempted or completed rape at some point in their lives, including myself. It’s not nearly as rare of an occurrence as some of you manosphere guys think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:23 PM
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I recently went down a rabbit hole of discussion about the influx of young guys who follow manosphere content flocking to the Catholic and Orthodox churches. So, this is definitely already happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:37 AM
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I’m a major introvert and homebody. We are out there, I promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:46 AM
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I’m a Charlie Hunnam, of Sons of Anarchy fame, fan, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:23 PM
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Interesting. Yeah, this goes to show that everybody has different experiences, and it’s really not helpful to generalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:16 PM
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On my dating app profile, I have one professional photo and the others are ordinary non-altered/unfiltered selfies. I didn’t have the professional photo taken specifically for my dating app profile, though. I won a free boudoir photo session and used one of the less racy photos from that session.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 10:56 AM
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I agree, but then again, I don't get the manosphere obsession with him. He's a good-looking guy, no doubt, but I don't think he's the pinnacle of male beauty. I guess it goes to show that attraction is at least somewhat subjective!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:39 PM
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Yeah, all but one of my long-term relationships started out as hookups/casual FWBs situationships. I think that’s far more common than a lot of red-pilled or sexually inexperienced guys realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:26 PM
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All of the experienced men I’ve known have gone on to date and marry women who are also experienced. And these are desirable men who have their pick of women. This obsession with virgins and body counts is really not something that most normie men share.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:18 PM
4

What exactly do you think should be covered via taxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:28 PM
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I've rejected a couple guys I had casual hookups with for long-term relationships who were good-looking and great in bed because they didn't have their lives together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:21 PM
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Random dudes wanting to stick their dick in us (women) is not a benefit, I can assure you. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:22 PM
3

So you literally just do whatever your husband tells you to do, no questions asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:40 PM
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You do realize that many feminists advocate for either the abolition of the draft altogether or the inclusion of women in the draft, right? It’s primarily been conservative lawmakers—and conservative male lawmakers, specifically—who are opposed to the incision of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:37 PM
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Sure, and I’m one of those women. I acknowledge that I would likely have an easier time dating than men around my age would. But OP is talking about women having easier lives in general, and I definitely don’t agree with that notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:34 PM
3

Oh, you know, just another vague and cryptic threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:28 PM
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I am INTJ-T.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 11:18 AM
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It seems like he red pill movement used to be primarily about spinning planets, but now it has evolved to align more with tradcons. I read somewhere that the reason for the shift was that the vast majority of red pillers were unsuccessful at spinning plates, so they moved away from that to endorsing the traditional relationship where they can be the leader/head of household with their “pure” submissive wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:24 PM
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I’ve always been thin and fit and prefer to date men who are at least somewhat in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:21 AM
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Interesting. My father encouraged me to go to college and never put myself in a position to financially rely on a man. I've heard many other women say their fathers encouraged them to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 10:02 PM
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Source for your ridiculous 10% claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:54 PM
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In many European countries, the norm is for couples to split the bill even on first dates, so, no, all men do not pay for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:40 PM
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A lot of men like traditional relationships because they want to leverage their provider role as a way to take advantage of the inherent power imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:37 PM
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That’s really just because people are pairing up later in life, so I don’t think it’s unusual that more people are single through their 20s now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:40 PM
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I agree that the average woman’s libido is lower than the average man’s. However, women’s libidos typically peak in their mid-thirties to early-forties rather than their twenties. Just wanted to point that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:17 AM
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Something like 1 in 4 women have been the victim of an attempted or completed rape at some point during their lives. I'm included in that 25% statistic. Sexual assault happens more often than some guys like you (who aren't rapists and can't imagine doing something like that) think.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:54 PM
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"Men aren't doing well because we as a society decided to hold them down so women could get ahead" ...."When accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:32 PM
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Same. When I’m at the gym, I’m typically there to run 5 or 6 miles on the treadmill and maybe do a bit of strength training, and I end up getting quite sweaty. So I definitely don’t like people up in my personal space at the gym, probably more so than other places. I’m there for a reason—not to socialize and certainly not to set up dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:12 PM
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It’s actually quite pathetic that some people can’t be friends with anyone of the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:46 PM
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Your claim about STDs being more common/rampant now than ever before is simply not true. Do some research into how common syphilis, for example, was in the late Middle Ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:38 AM
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Seriously? It's pretty clear that a significant percentage of people who frequently participate in this sub have subpar social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:00 PM
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He sounds like a genuine feminist ally. I don’t find anything wrong with the guy having physical preferences and partaking in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:44 PM
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The women would be suffering in your hypothetical society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:10 PM
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If the solution to a higher birth rate is removing women's rights and forcing them to be in relationships, then society doesn't deserve to continue on. Half of the fucking population should not be oppressed and miserable just to appease the other half.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:02 PM
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Have you ever heard of "mother's little helper"? Bored and depressed housewives in those times were sometimes heavily medicated to get through their days. Barbiturates and valium were often used.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:54 PM
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Another points about SSRIs, in particular, is that women in perimenopause and menopause often take them to help regulate mood swings and deal with depression due to the hormonal changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:51 PM
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Many of the women who date criminals are addicts or alcoholics. Oftentimes, they don’t have a criminal record.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:54 PM
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I mean, this actually happens. There are millions of people who earn low wages and have come to accept their circumstances. Of course, they might wish that things had turned out differently and they had been more successful, but since that didn’t pan out the them, they’ve reached acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:34 PM
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The domestic violence rate for couples where one partner is a cop is very high—40%, I believe. I wouldn’t want to take a gamble on a guy whose profession is full of domestic abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:17 PM
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I'd have absolutely no problem with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:25 AM
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Yes: Smokes marijuana; Considers himself to be a feminist; Refuses to use marijuana (as long as he doesn't care if I smoke); Slept with 20+ people (I'm fairly experienced myself); 5 years younger than me; Refuses to have kids (I'm already the mother of one and don't want more); Voted for Kamala Harris; believes that reincarnation is real; Has the same first name as my ex No: Devout Christian (but maybe for a Christian who isn't an evangelical/fundamentalist/conservative type); Doesn't think gay …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:47 PM
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I’m an older woman, and I agree with you. Dating is definitely easier for women of pretty much all ages, at least in terms of having options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 11:29 AM
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Whenever I see posts like OP’s or comments like yours, I always sense that there is a misunderstanding at play. There are different types of “bad” boys: there’s the genuinely bad type of guy who is violent or involved in serious criminal activity, and then there’s the party guy type who isn’t really a bad person but definitely likes to get wild sometimes. Far more women are interested in the second type of dude than the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:11 PM
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Same. I shared my experience elsewhere in this thread, but I was a wild one in my twenties, and I’ve never even known anyone who has done most of things OP described.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:42 AM
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Right? A minuscule percentage of women are doing things like getting peed on at parties or having trains ran on them. 🙄😂 Like, those are extremely rare outliers. And that’s not to even mention his example of dropping a freaking baby into a Walmart toilet. Like, how many times ever has that happened? Once or twice? Really good example of what average women are doing. 🙄 A more apt description of the typical wild/party girl would be something like the following (and this was me 15-20 years ago): So…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:40 AM
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Oh really? There are over 4 million registered nurses in the US, most of whom are women. Do you honestly think AI can easily replace healthcare professionals, especially those who do more of the hands-on work, like nurses? I don’t think so. It would seem to me that some male-dominated trade professions would be easier to fully automate than caregiving roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:25 AM
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The average poor or working-class couple likely has little in the way of assets to divide in the event of a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:22 AM
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Yeah, guys like that don’t want to admit that anger is very much an emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:53 PM
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You want a tradwife because your fragile ego and insecurities can’t handle a true partnership of equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:51 PM
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How does voting for Trump help young men? Which policies or actions of his are beneficial to average young men? As I see it, the only demographic that is benefiting is the very richest people. But I’d love to hear your responses to my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:19 PM
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Hmm, I’m not so sure about that. Sure, the education system could definitely be improved. But the primary issue is the parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:39 AM
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Women don’t need to give up on the prospect of marriages and children. However, it definitely makes sense that many women choose to keep their careers in order to protect themselves and any children they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 04:03 PM
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You really need to brush up on history. Women throughout history have performed paid work that didn’t involve tending to their own families.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:55 PM
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That is absolutely not always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:58 PM
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I've rarely seen red-pilled guys suggest that they want to have egalitarian relationships where both partners work, pay the bills, and divvy up the household chores/childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:31 PM
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"Also women are hypergamous and almost always marry up" Not anymore. In 45% of modern American marriages, the husband is not the sole or primary breadwinner. In those marriages, either the husband and wife earn roughly the same income or the wife is the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:29 PM
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The definition of “incel” has changed over the years. To be an incel, a man is not only involuntarily celibate, but he also espouses misogynistic viewpoints. So, not all male virgins (or men who struggle to date/sleep with women) are incels. In the examples you’ve given, you don’t go into detail about whether or not Billy and Dorothy are hateful toward the opposite gender due to their lack of success with sex and dating. If they aren’t hateful, then they aren’t an incel or femcel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:51 PM
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It's always so bizarre to me when I see this type of argument, because it operates from the assumption that women don't work or have their own assets. It's 2025; not 1970. In a decent percentage of modern marriages (45% of marriages, in fact), the husband is not the sole or primary breadwinner. If those couples were to divorce, the man wouldn't lose half of "his" assets, because both partners have assets. Either the couples would end up breaking even, or in some situations, the woman would lose …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:58 PM
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You do realize that the majority of mothers (in the US, at least) are not stay-at-home parents, right? Most mothers work; in fact, only 26% of mothers in the US are stay-at-home moms. And what do families where both partners work do about childcare? Many use daycare facilities or in-home providers. Some have grandparents or other relatives watch their kids. And in some situations, couples stagger their work schedules so that one partner is always home with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:00 PM
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Mansplaining to a random woman what she should do with her own life 🙄 Because as a man, you of course know better than her what choices she should make. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:54 PM
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Yeah, with the exception of extreme outliers (legit micropensis or insanely huge), most women don't really care. I'm a woman who has been with a decent number of guys (a little over 20 guys by the age of 45), and I can only recall one guy's size being problematic during sex. That particular guy had a micropenis, and it was indeed difficult to have PIV sex with him. But otherwise, guys' sizes really didn't factor in all that much. I've been with average-sized guys who were far better in bed than …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 11:32 AM
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You are completely out of touch with reality. Here’s a dose of reality for you: In 45% of American marriages, the husband is neither the sole nor primary breadwinner. (Source: Pew Research) The above figure continues to climb as time goes on. And in some metro areas, young women are now out-earning young men. I understand that this probably infuriates you, since you see women as inferior, but it’s the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:58 PM
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You do realize that OP is specifically talking about casual sex, right, and that's why women are responding this way? If OP had focused on men being lonely and not being to get into actual relationships where they'd also presumably be having regular sex with their girlfriends, then I guarantee you the many of the comments would be different. I don't know why you'd think that any woman would care about a guy not being able to pop into the club whenever he feels like it and bring a new woman home …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:46 PM
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Money and land
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:26 PM
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OP's post is about casual sex, though. People who meet in the clubs and have sex afterward are not in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:23 PM
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Again, I feel for men who wish to be in actual relationships, which would presumably entail having regular sex as well. As long as a guy isn't entitled and misogynistic, I feel empathy for him. (Hell, I just went through a divorce and I'm extremely lonely myself.) With that said, OP's post is specifically about frequent casual sex. In that context, I don't think it's at all reasonable for anybody to care that some guy isn't getting as laid after the clubs or whatever. That is an entirely separat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:12 PM
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You are projecting your experience with sexlessness onto all other men. There is no definitely no shortage of men who can and do cheat on their partners. I'm in female-centered groups and read posts every single day from women whose husbands or boyfriends are found to be having affairs. And to be fair, there are plenty of women who cheat on their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:56 PM
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Exactly. I feel empathy for men who are lonely and haven't been unable to attract a long-term romantic partner--that is, if they aren't hateful about the situation. However, I certainly am not going to feel bad for some guy whose major complaint is that he can't have casual sex like all the Chads do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:24 PM
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OP is referring to an incel/red-pill revenge fantasy sometimes discussed in forums like this one where lonely, angry men rise up in a violent rebellion and essentially forcefully enslave women by removing women's rights and relegating them to second-class citizens once again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 12:49 PM
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Incorrect. The majority of mass shooting are committed by right-wing extremists. "All the extremist-related murders in 2022 were committed by right-wing extremists of various kinds, who typically commit most such killings each year but only occasionally are responsible for all (the last time this occurred was 2012)." Murder and Extremism in the United States in 2022 | ADL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 11:48 PM
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Listen to women’s lived experiences instead of dismissing us as neurotic and paranoid. I, too, have had several very frightening and dangerous encounters with strange men. In July of 2006, I was nearing the end of a 5-mile jog on a bike path on a beautiful Saturday afternoon when a man came out of the adjacent wooded area and attacked me, tackling me to the ground. He then attempted to suffocate me with one arm while trying to drag me up in to the wooded area on the other side. Fortunately, anot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:43 PM
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I’ll chime in to this conversation. I’m a newly single mom and am considering dating again in the future if I can get over my social anxiety. I have one child, a 15 year-old son. At this juncture in my life, I would definitely consider dating a single dad, with the caveat that his child/children is/are over the age of maybe 8 or 9. I’m just past the point where I want to help care for little kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 11:39 AM
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I think all too often what gets lost in this conversation is the fact that after a certain age—say 35—many, if not most, women AND men have had children already. So the dating pool for slightly older people is just bound to have more single parents in it. It’s not just single moms looking to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 11:31 AM
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It's actually decreased. Of course, fewer people are getting married these days, but the overall divorce rate hit a 50-year low in 2022. It was the lowest that it's been since 1971.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:58 PM
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Yes, when women are liberated and can provide for themselves, fewer of them will partner up with men. Some will choose to remain single or casually date men or even date women. This is a much better scenario than subjugating half of the population. This shouldn't need to be said. It's unfortunate that some people will not find a partner, though. Life is very unfair sometimes. I'm dealing with a chronic health condition that is causing me to be sicker and sicker as time passes on. I'm currently s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:46 PM
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There are men who lust over female killers. Two of those women that come to mind are Casey Anthony and Jodi Arias.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:05 PM
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"I intentionally avoid typing my most elite thinking in here for 'certain reasons.'" Oh look, we are in the presence of an enlightened sage of a red piller here--he who has been bestowed with secret knowledge that only a few wise ones are privy to! LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:51 AM
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While I believe you're correct in saying that most modern men don't seek out women who are willing to be submissive, that doesn't seem to be the case for self-described passport bros. Go to any forum where passport bros congregate, including here on Reddit, and you will find a much higher than average percentage of men who explicitly state that they want a submissive housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:45 AM
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These days, alimony is relatively rare. Only 10% divorces end with one spouse being awarded alimony. Child support is an entirely different matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:11 PM
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The revenge fantasies with some of these guys is out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:19 PM
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I do! I wear makeup even when I'm not going anywhere. I also style my hair. I just feel more put together and ready to tackle my day when I do those things, even if I'm just working from home by myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:13 PM
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Just a possible suggestion: You could add in your dating app bio that you are specifically interested in an egalitarian relationship dynamic, which should signal to women that you expect dates to be 50/50. I'm a woman who prefers to split the bill, even on a first date, so we definitely exist!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:01 PM
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There is research available indicating that throughout human history, only around 40% of men reproduced. So, this notion that a group of sexless men existing is a new thing is simply not true. It’s just that prior to 15 or 20 years ago, those men couldn’t go to online forums and commiserate with other men who were in a similar predicament.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 11:26 AM
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You're not wrong. I guess I don't understand why the focus in pilled spaces is always on cold-approaching. I mean, that's never been the primary way that couples have met, even 50 or 100 years ago. Most people met through social networks, such as high school, college, work, church, or friend or hobby groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:47 PM
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If the only way that a society (or our species in general) can survive is by enslaving half of the population (women), then it isn’t worth continuing on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:08 PM
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Many single women have options and are choosing to stay single anyway. It’s delusional to believe otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:13 PM
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What a misogynistic take to insinuate that all men will cheat given the opportunity. You don’t think very highly of men, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:10 PM
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You’re a nice guy because you don’t mind being settled for? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:08 PM
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I very highly doubt that 25% of women have done a gangbang. I would imagine the percentage is much lower. Now threesomes are probably much more common, especially FFM.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:19 PM
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Single women often aren’t alone, though. They are much more likely than single men to have a full social life with plenty of friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:53 AM
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Thank you!! And same to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:10 PM
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I mean, I would be concerned about these issues, but I’d be equally concerned about a girl’s development. I do have a son, and although he wasn’t a premie, he was at a very low percentile for weight (not height) until he was about 10. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t somewhat worried. But now he’s 15 and average in both height and weight for his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:57 PM
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Yes, but typically a McDonalds employee isn’t dating someone who is college-educated and earns a nearly six-figure salary. Low-wage fast food workers are usually in relationships with other low-wage earners, or at least with people who don’t have fairly high-earning white-collar jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:03 PM
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So, you’re insinuating that women aren’t contributing “femininely” because they aren’t giving their bodies for sexual purposes to lonely men? Yeah, that’s a fucked up thought proceeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:58 PM
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According to Pew Research, only 26% of married American women are housewives/stay-at-home moms. So this notion that most women don’t work is false.
/r/MensRights24/04/25 08:55 PM
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This is a weird ass take.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:44 PM
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I don’t know how many times I’ve heard (or read) people discussing how they learned that a grandfather or some other older relative had lead a double life. They’d have a wife and kids in one place, as well as a secret mistress and maybe kids with her in another place The thing is, people did not openly talk about scandals and controversies back then. Even in my own family, my aunt was a flight attendant in the 60s who never married. Sometime in the late 90s, she told my family that she had given…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:03 PM
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Why are you operating from the assumption that all attractive women have bad personalities? This is the same line of thinking as red pillers who insist all "Chads" (meaning, good-looking guys) are some sort of villain.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:18 AM
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All of the people in happy relationships who have active sex lives aren't typically going online and sharing their experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:32 PM
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I completely disagree. Many young virgin men have baggage because they are resentful of not having been able to date. That is a type pf baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:30 PM
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Since you believe in polyamory, I assume your wives would be able to take on other lovers. Or is this just one-sided polyamory?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:52 PM
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The vast majority of people over a certain age have at least some type of baggage—yes, even men and women who have never dated before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:44 PM
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I completely agree with this. Facial attractiveness is definitely the physical quality I care most about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:53 PM
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Lean and toned. I have a type and usually date guys who were former athletes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:45 PM
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61.6% of men currently in the US are fathers, so clearly women don't only go for the top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:12 PM
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What makes you think all, or even most, of those single women have active sex lives? Some people can be perfectly content without regularly having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:43 PM
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In 45% of American marriages today, the husband is not the breadwinner. Obviously, many women are not demanding that their male partners be the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:30 PM
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Women being physically attracted to men who look a certain way has nothing to do with gender roles. I can find a man with an athletic body type sexually appealing, while also desiring an egalitarian relationship where both partners work, split the bills, and contribute as evenly as possible to the household chores and childcare. And yes, masculine-looking man can prefer egalitarian relationships. Many of the men I've either known or dated fit that description. I don't know where this misconcepti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:02 PM
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I’ve honestly never met a man who wanted to date or marry a virgin outside of super religious circles. Date Psychology also did a survey and found that the majority of men prefer their partners to have had a few previous sexual partners. The minority of men who did say they wanted a virgin were either very young or sexually inexperienced themselves. Older guys and guys who were sexually experienced typically weren’t interested in dating virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:43 PM
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As a feminist, I don't believe men should be expected to pay for dates or be the default pursuers. I think you'll find that many actual feminists don't demand these things. I also think that the draft should either be abolished, or it should be compulsory for women as well (ideally the former).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:54 PM
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It’s very clear that you don’t actually know many women at all. Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:01 PM
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Why is there this constant obsession in this sub with red-pilled guys insisting that attractive men are bad people? It’s utterly baffling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:19 PM
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The same is true of very attractive women who are genuinely awful human beings. People of both genders will often overlook terrible behavior and character traits when a person is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:35 PM
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I'm in a number of female-centered groups on other social media platforms, and women definitely analyze dating patterns and strategies and male behavior in terms of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 01:29 AM
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As an attractive woman, I have had my fair share of tough times in my life. I’ve been sexually assaulted twice by men who were strangers to me. I have been harassed and made to feel unsafe a number of times. I’ve experienced domestic violence. And that’s not to mention, all of the ways my life has been far from easy that have nothing to do with men or romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:52 PM
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Right? This might be single-handedly the most delusional, chronically online take I’ve read.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:45 PM
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This has always been the case for me. All of my relationships began as FWB situationships, and I never categorized my partners like OP is describing. Seems kind of bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:31 PM
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I actually don’t have a problem with this, aside from mentioning the cost associated with making it standard at delivery/birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:52 PM
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As far as I know, there is no data to suggest that this is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:51 PM
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Many of us have been victimized in the past, so it’s often not just about fear we develop from stories we’ve read or watched but rather from personal experiences we’ve had. In fact, probably half of the women you know have likely had at least one awful encounter with a random man at some point in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 06:51 PM
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I’m 45 and will consider dating men between the ages of 35 and 55.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 03:03 PM
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As a middle-aged woman, I can assure you that there are lots of men around my age who haven’t aged well at all. It’s a manosphere myth that most older men age much better than similarly aged women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:17 PM
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The data doesn’t suggest that more young women than young men are having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:02 PM
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86 year-old men are also far less attractive than 24 year-old men, though, so what's the point? Most men and women both are more attractive in their twenties and early thirties than they are when they're late thirties and beyond. This isn't gender-specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:54 PM
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Lmao, everyone is post-wall at 80 years old. What an absurd comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:40 PM
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I'll never understand why, when this topic is discussed, that the focus is always on older *childless* single women. After a certain age (say 35), most men and women have had kids. And single people over 35 or so who have already had kids often aren't interested in having more kids, so a woman's fertility is a non-issue. Like, I'm 45 years old and will obviously not be having more kids (I have a teenaged son), but I have no issues attracting men in their late thirties and above to date. The majo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:39 PM
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Theoretically, that’s true. I’m extremely social anxious and somewhat shy, and while I have had a lot of interest on the dating apps from men of all ages, my social anxiety is so bad that I’ll never actually meet up with any of the guys for dates. So, yeah, significant mental illness is detrimental for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:50 PM
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My husband left me a year ago after I’d become ill with a chronic health condition. He had started an affair prior to announcing that he was leaving me, and then ran off with the other woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:59 PM
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As a somewhat shy woman with a severe case of social anxiety, I absolutely agree with you. I have zero social life because I’m too anxious to meet up with people in person. I wasn’t always like this. Anyway, it’s kind of hard to date when you never leave your house. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:45 PM
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"They were naive enough to think they could push for privilege without a push back." This would be a good time to add this quote: "To those accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 11:08 PM
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I’ll chime in and say that a comment like that wouldn’t upset or offend me. Where I do draw the line is vulgar comments that are made inappropriately by a guy I either don’t know at all or barely know. So, for example, if a guy reaches out to me on a dating app and within the first three messages sends a dick pic and suggests wanting to fuck me, that would be off-putting. But a simple compliment is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 07:18 PM
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Many, if not most, women and (men) who are in their mid-thirties and above who are actively dating are divorced and already have children. A significant percentage of this dating demographic aren’t interested in having any more children, so the woman’s fertility doesn’t matter in those cases. I’m 45 and have found this to be true for me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:52 PM
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This is one of the biggest manosphere myths that I see repeated often. In reality, most women in relationships are sharing bill paying responsibilities with their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:47 PM
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Only 26% of American women who are mothers are housewives/stay-at-home moms. So, the majority of women work. Gone are the days of the traditional relationship dynamic being the norm. Furthermore, in nearly half (45%) of marriages, the husband is not the sole or primary breadwinner. Those marriages are either egalitarian (with both partners earning roughly the same income) or the wife is the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 10:20 PM
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Yes, and this true of women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 10:10 PM
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You can't be serious with this comment. Trump is about as far from a "family values" man as you can get. He's been married three times and has children with all three wives. He cheated on his wives, including sleeping with a porn star. Like, what are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:23 PM
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I’ve never really separated guys into these two categories of long-term boyfriend/husband option versus casual hookup/FWB option. Each of the serious, long-term relationships I have had (5 in total) started out as more casual FWB situationships. I’ll also add that those guys I dated were either friends or acquaintances beforehand, so they weren’t strangers who I met off apps or whatever. Basically, I’d hang out with the guy in a party setting and then we’d hook up one night, which then led to mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:15 PM
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I’m considered conventionally attractive, and while I had an active social life in my twenties, I’m now in my forties and a total homebody. By homebody, I mean I genuinely don’t ever go out and socialize. The reason? I developed severe social anxiety over the last decade, likely due to experiencing a lot of trauma in my late twenties and thirties. So, there is virtually zero chance I would meet a man through social channels or a cold approach. I recently went through a divorce, and I’ve been on …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:32 PM
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In 45% of American marriages, the husband is not the sole or primary breadwinner. So in nearly half of marriages in the US, either the husband and wife earn roughly the same income, or the wife is the breadwinner. Husbands and Wives Earn Similar Wages in a Growing Share of Marriages | Pew Research Center
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:09 AM
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"Besides, even if the woman is educated and has a good job, the man is still likely to have to pay alimony." This is simply untrue. Alimony is only awarded in 10% of divorces these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:01 AM
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The percentage of women earning as much, or more, than their husbands is increasing year-by-year. In 45% of American marriages (as of 2022), the husband is not the sole or primary breadwinner. So in nearly half of American marriages, either the husband and wife earn roughly the same income, or the wife is the breadwinner. Husbands and Wives Earn Similar Wages in a Growing Share of Marriages | Pew Research Center
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:26 AM
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A significant percentage of women earn as much, or more, than their husbands. In 45% of American marriages, the husband is not the sole or primary breadwinner. In those marriages, either the husband and wife earn roughly the same income, or the wife is the breadwinner. Husbands and Wives Earn Similar Wages in a Growing Share of Marriages | Pew Research Center
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:23 AM
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Yeah so, I'm in several support groups with tens of thousands of women whose husbands had an affair and left them. It happens far, far more often than you seem to think. It happened to me, although I have a career and didn't need totally panic about my future in terms of finances. Many women who were abandoned were stay-at-homes moms, though, and most of those women ended up in very bad positions post-divorce. Some are completely destitute now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:20 AM
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"Men want to be king of their castle the home is not a democracy. If I say make a sandwich I want it made not a bunch of sass,If I say we're going to this restaurant I don't want her input or suggestions." So, a domestic dictatorship. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:13 AM
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This conversation is centered on tradcons or manosphere dudes who *specifically seek out* traditional women to date and marry. It's absolutely absurd for a guy like that to insist on marrying a woman who will be a financially dependent homemaker/stay-at-home wife, but then rage on about the consequences when divorcing. As of 2022, 45% of married American women earn as much, or more, than their husbands. When husbands are no longer the sole or primary breadwinner in nearly half of marriages, it s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:54 AM
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You do realize that most working women don’t have high-powered corporate careers, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:12 PM
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At least you’re honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:11 PM
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I’ll jump in here. The demographic with the highest number of divorces is people 50+. And the percentage of couples ages 65+ divorcing has skyrocketed. There is a term for this phenomenon called “grey divorce.” This honestly isn’t surprising, considering that older women were much more likely to need to marry for survival back in the 70s and 80s (and possibly even 90s in some areas). The social stigma toward unmarried married was also much stronger some decades ago. So I think these older women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:52 PM
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Yeah, Leonardo DiCaprio is one who is often cited.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:41 PM
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I am 5'4" and 120 pounds and am definitely considered thin. My husband left me for a woman who is about the same height and at least 30 or 40 pounds heavier than me. So my situation is literally the opposite of what you're suggesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:27 AM
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"I said that women have outpaced traditional gender roles through economic liberation, but they still expect men to remain in those outdated roles when dating them." The data shows that an increasing number of women are earning as much, or more than, their husbands. In fact, this is the case in 45% of American marriages (as of 2022). So, which outdated gender roles are feminist women clinging to exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:15 PM
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I agree with this. It seems that a lot of guys in this sub believe that most feminist women endorse the same views as FDS women, which just isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:08 PM
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What you’re saying is just flat-put wrong. As a 45 year-old woman who has no problem getting men interested in dating me, I can say safely say that you are just detailing a revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:15 PM
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70% of men are in relationships. If what you're saying is true, then only 1-5% of men would be in relationships. Reality disproves your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:36 AM
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Why would BanFemaleHate be problematic? I’ve only ever seen them target genuinely awful subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:45 PM
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The research shows that women are more likely to end up in poverty (or significantly struggling) than men post-divorce. So this narrative that women make it out big in divorce is simply false. That only happens with the absolute wealthiest one-percenters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 03:13 PM
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That’s not why I’m not dating. I do, indeed, have a lot of matches on the apps. My problem is that I have developed extreme social anxiety over the last few years, and so now after recently going through a divorce, I’m on the apps and wanting to date but too scared to actually meet up with any of the guys. It’s not at all that I think I’m too good (or above) most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:00 PM
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20 years ago I would have said maybe, but not anymore. It’s a definite no for me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:02 PM
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Yep, mother’s little helper.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:49 PM
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You can avoid major financial woes in a potential future divorce by actively seeking to date women who have good careers and their own assets. As of 2022, men are not the primary or sole breadwinner in a significant percentage of marriages—45% to be exact. So there are obviously plenty of women who carry their own weight when it comes to income/assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:34 PM
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You aren’t the only person who is searching for their dream partner who checks off all the boxes for preferences. Most men and women have an “ideal” for their desired partner, but very few actually land their absolute ideal dream mate. That’s just life and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:06 PM
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Actually, it’s been my experience that the men who have had a lot of dating and sexual experience are the ones who are the least likely to give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:47 PM
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People break rules and make exceptions for the most attractive men and women. Men do the same for extremely good-looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:59 PM
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Fantastic response! I couldn’t agree more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:22 PM
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Same. This wasn’t even a trend to ask about body count prior to maybe 4 years ago. It’s a new thing brought about by the manospher and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:35 PM
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You do realize that most men aren’t going around asking their dates about body count or sexual history, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:32 PM
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I am not a public figure, and I’ve received rape threats from random men on social media. It happens more often than you think, and to completely ordinary women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:08 PM
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When have you ever seen a woman claim to be okay with an unemployed man?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:23 PM
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The problem is that some guys who claim to be above average or average are actually below average. I’m sure this happens with some women, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:24 PM
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Men are not shamed because they don’t want to date single moms or promiscuous women (or older women or fat women). They are criticized for the ways in which they shame and insult those women when stating their preferences. Here’s a common example: A guy who doesn’t want to date an overweight or obese women calls her a “disgusting landwhale.” That’s rude AF, obviously. He could easily just say, “I prefer to date thinner women.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:17 PM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:01 PM
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Yep, they frequently claim that every liberal feminist woman is angry, ugly, obese, and old. Sometimes they’ll throw in “blue-haired” as well. And they throw the same insults at us on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:14 PM
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I definitely agree that Trump is awful. But exactly how is Trump misandrist? He’s a blatant misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:04 PM
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You do realize that women very commonly worked alongside their husbands on their farms for much of recorded history, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:46 PM
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How many blue-pilled women do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:44 PM
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Can you provide a source for this? I’m just interested in reading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:02 PM
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I’ve developed multiple chronic health conditions over the last few years, so I can relate to this somewhat. I was married, though, for a long time before my husband left me for another woman. He was unhappy with the fact that I’m so sick, so he bailed. I’ve since gone on to a few of the dating apps, but I can’t shake the feeling that I’d just burden someone with my health problems and whatnot. Feel free to DM me if you want. It’s always nice to chat with someone who understands serious illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:52 PM
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Absolutely not. I don’t particularly love receiving oral sex (just doesn’t really do it for me), and the other stuff is also just meh (with the exception of mutual masturbation, which I enjoy). PIV sex is my absolute favorite, so making it taboo would be a no fcking thank-you for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:28 PM
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But it IS relatively uncommon for a high-earning man, like a doctor, to date a much lower-earning and less-educated woman, like a hair stylist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:19 PM
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Right? And how often do we see men in manosphere/manosphere-adjacent spaces like this sub (or male-oriented spaces in general, like the AskMen sub) claim that that they don’t care about a woman’s career or income? It’s extremely common for men to say they don’t give a fuck. So, I’m calling BS that most men want to do away with the default male provider role.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:15 PM
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I am a part of dozens of female-centered groups on various social media platforms, and I rarely see women shaming men for their looks. When men are shamed, it’s usually because of their actions, behavior, or repugnant views/beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:09 PM
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Society has already made great strides in dismantling the male “provider” archetype. Let’s just look at the current statistics: As of 2022, only 55% of married American men are the sole or primary breadwinners of their families. So, nearly half of American marriages do not operate with a male breadwinner in place. In 29% of marriages, the husband and wife earn roughly the same income. These marriages are egalitarian, at least in terms of finances. And in 16% of marriages, the wife is the sole or…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:57 PM
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There are plenty of men who abandon their kids and want nothing to do with joint custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:20 PM
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I mean, yeah, that can certainly be an issue. I’m not taking a moral or ethical stand when I mention the prevalence of alcohol use during casual sex encounters. I’m just stating that it’s common.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:41 PM
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Yes, and this isn’t mentioned enough during conversations about casual sex/hookups. Some people in this sub (who often self-identify as inexperienced) have this preconceived notion that the majority of hookups are pre-planned between two sober people who just met off of an app. While this surely happens sometimes, I think the likelier scenario is that there is drinking beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:18 PM
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Add Musk and Pete Hegseth to that list, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 05:27 PM
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And if a society needs to restrict the rights of half of its population (women), then it doesn’t deserve to continue existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:32 PM
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I mean, there are other factors to consider. Many hookups involve a man and woman who have known each other as friends or at least long-time acquaintances. Some of those couples keep it casual while others decide to keep dating and end up in long-term relationships. With dating apps, people presumably don’t know each other. Many women are going to choose not to have sex on the first date with a guy from an app for the simple reason that she has to prioritize her safety. I know that I wouldn’t be…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:06 PM
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This is something you’ve concocted out of nowhere. And regardless, you can’t complain about losing half your assets if you insist on marrying a tradwife. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 06:48 PM
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Personality is far more important to me than status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:02 PM
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I’m getting the impression that OP is referring more to arranged marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:01 PM
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If you’re worried about being fucked over in a potential divorce, then why don’t you consider marrying a woman with a career who earns good money? You’d want to make sure to have the conversation with her ahead of time about her intention to continue working after children. But marrying a financially independent woman with her own assets would be the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:30 PM
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" I genuinely dont think i could have a LTR with a woman who doesn’t have the same morals as me especially on topics like marriage, divorce, how to raise children." This is very reasonable, in my opinion. I feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:04 PM
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I don't doubt that what you're saying is true for some liberal women. I was just pointing out that your claim that all, or even most, conservative men won't date liberal women is false. I have personal experience with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:03 PM
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We are not talking about the male suicide rate here. We are specifically talking about men like you claiming that women choosing not to date people are sadistic and misandrist, which is obviously an absurd argument on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:00 PM
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The red pill primary focuses on dating and sex strategies, while simultaneously bitching about women and feminism. How would voting for Trump help men with dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:06 PM
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Poor men date poor women all the time. They just typically don't date educated middle-class women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:38 PM
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All of the data suggests otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:29 PM
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You don't speak for all men. I've never dated a man who didn't care about my education and career.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:15 PM
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In nearly half of American marriages, the husband is not the breadwinner. In 29% of marriages, the husband and wife earn about the same income. These marriages are egalitarian. In 16% of marriages, the wife is the breadwinner. Husbands and Wives Earn Similar Wages in a Growing Share of Marriages | Pew Research Center Your beliefs about marriage and provision are outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:12 PM
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Regarding your comment about “ancient sexual instincts” and equality, there is research available that suggests ancient people were far more egalitarian than people who came later. Traditional gender roles as we know them now largely developed with the advent of agriculture. Hunter-gatherers likely did not rigid gender roles. For example, there is evidence that the women not only did much of the gathering, but also some of the hunting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:41 PM
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A woman choosing not to date a man does not make her “sadistically misandrist.” I don’t want to date the vast majority of people, including women and men under 35 or over 55. That does not mean that I hate those individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:58 PM
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As a liberal woman, I can assure you that many conservative men very much do not care and will still attempt to date us liberals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:50 PM
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Plenty of people cut off or disown their immediate family members who aren’t their spouses because they are are/were abusive or toxic in some way. I’m constantly reading stories from people who stopped interacting with their parents or siblings as a result of abusive or toxic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:50 PM
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“women are expending very few calories in sex” Uhh, no. Riding/grinding and bouncing on top or reverse cowgirl style require quite a bit of leg strength and endurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:03 PM
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I have never once encountered a woman making the claim that withholding sex is a form of domestic abuse, and I spend a decent amount of time perusing female-centered groups on FB and occasionally subs here on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:00 PM
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Wow, that’s an interesting story!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:25 PM
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There are lots of women who don’t have college degrees. Some examples of jobs that women without college degrees often have include: nursing assistants, hairdressers, teaching paraprofessionals, childcare workers, home health aides, and retail workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:16 PM
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I’m not suggesting that I would want to cover the whole bill for myself and my date. Instead, I would prefer to split the check with my date. This is incredibly common in Western European countries, so it’s certainly feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:54 PM
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No, the actual salaries of the women at all phases of their employment are paid less on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:51 PM
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There are many older men who want a connection with someone their own age. Again, that may be hard for you to believe, but it’s the truth. I mean, Jeff Bezos is one of the richest men in the world and he’s rumored to be marrying his long-term girlfriend who is in her mid (or maybe even late) fifties very soon. Of course there are men who will only date younger women all the way through their 60s and 70s. I don’t deny that. I’m just telling you that lot of men (and high-value men at that) prefer …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:41 PM
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Yeah it’s weird. And I’m really not trying to come across as boasting or anything, but it’s so silly when manosphere types insist that “post-wall” women like myself are rejected left and right or only hit up for casual sex. That’s just not the reality of the situation. Sure, there are undoubtedly plenty of older men who will exclusively date younger women, but there are also plenty of men who don’t want a long-term relationship with someone a decade or more younger than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:37 PM
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Huh. Women are underrepresented in STEM fields, and yet the salaries of men and women in STEM occupations are unequal, as men in those fields continue to have higher median salaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:24 PM
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I just don't agree with this. I think it's perfectly reasonable for a high-value (for lack of a better term) man to go into a dating situation with an egalitarian mindset and wish to split the bill. I don't think any less of a guy for preferring to do this. I prefer that arrangement myself. Now, I do think there are guys who want to split the bill but are also the type who want a traditional relationship, but one in which the woman works full-time, does all the household chores/cooking, and defe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:45 PM
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We give other women compliments to be kind. It's really not any deeper than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:44 AM
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Plenty of people do just fine dating when they don't have these specific traits and qualities that you've outlined. For example, I'm 45 and have no shortage of men wanting to date me long-term (not just casual hookups). Lots of men around my own age, for example, already have kids and aren't looking to have more. They want to settle down with a woman their age. This may be incomprehensible to you, but that doesn't change this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:38 AM
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Yeah, I can agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:27 AM
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What the fuck?! Um, yeah no. I was with you on the first part of your comment. But the solution is not to recruit male teachers with the prospect of paying them more than female teachers. Obviously, dude. The actual solution is to increase the pay for ALL teachers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:21 PM
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In order to attract men to the teaching profession, the pay needs to increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:38 PM
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So true. Mental health struggles are nothing new; it’s just that in the past, people with mental health issues were either shamed and ostracized (and sometimes literally institutionalized for absurd reasons) or they simply kept quiet about their struggles and pretended to be okay due to social stigmatization.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:31 PM
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What are you implying? Do you think that women don’t work to complete their course work and are simply given degrees?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:38 PM
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I don’t think most women are receiving scholarships. I know that I didn’t, and neither did any of my friends. If you can a statistic from a reliable source that shows the percentage of female college students who receive scholarships, I’d love to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:36 PM
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First off, most women don’t receive scholarships. And second, a scholarship only gets a person funding for their college tuition. That individual has to put in the hard work completing their course work in order to obtain their degree. It’s also important to note that male-only scholarships exist and are increasing in an effort to address the gender imbalance in colleges.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:33 PM
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I am only speaking for myself and not any other women. Clearly my thought process largely hinges on the trauma I’ve experienced. I would imagine, though, that most women have a heightened sense of hyper-vigilance when in certain situations similar to those I previously described (walking to a car alone at night, for example). It could partially be a sort of innate fear, and partially fear that has developed as a result of seeing news stories or hearing other women describe their experiences. Whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:24 PM
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I was vigilant around any strange man regardless of race. It’s not about race or ethnicity but the fact that 99% of men can overpower me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:15 PM
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This is so very true. I was a teen in the 90s before the internet took off and social media was really even a thing and can confirm that young people were usually out and about doing all sorts of things. It was virtually unheard of for a young person to stay home all weekend, much less all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:23 PM
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Umm, college degrees aren't handed to women, either. They have to work for them, just like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:55 PM
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I would not consider that to be a social construct, no. In my view, a social construct would mean that I felt fear as a result of consuming media about stranger attacks/assaults or hearing stories from other women and then building anxiety and fear as a result of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:59 PM
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And because you mentioned race, I’ll add that I’ve been victimized by both a white and a black man. The bike path incident involved a white man and the drugging incident involved a black man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:10 PM
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I can only speak for myself personally, but most of my fear and apprehension comes from lived experience rather than something innate to my being. In my late teens and very early twenties, before any of the above incidents happened to me, I didn’t have nearly the same level of fear. I even walked across a very large college campus a couple times late at night by myself without much of a concern for my safety. I’d go for jogs on bike paths without giving a second thought. That all began to change…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:06 PM
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There are people—men and women both—who make sex videos and release them for public view. There are plenty of male porn stars after all. So I’m not sure why you’re making this a gendered thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:01 PM
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Just a reminder that women are not a monolith and we all have different preferences. For me, personally, I do not need a guy to be over 6’. In fact, the ideal height for me (I’m 5’4”) is around 5’10” or 5’11”. I would consider dating guys over maybe 5’7”, as I just want my partner to be a few inches taller than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:49 PM
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To be fair, all of those men you mentioned are both conservatives AND misogynists. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:19 PM
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It’s not just socially constructed, though. Many women, myself included, have actually had awful experiences with men who were strangers. In my life, I have been assaulted on a bike path, drugged in a bar, and followed down a road at night. I have every reason to be wary of strange men. With that said, the vast majority of my encounters with strange men have been perfectly fine. But those few men who have bad intentions change everything for us women about how we navigate life in terms of lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:30 PM
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What are you taking about? I see self-proclaimed man whores brag about the number of women they’ve slept with all the time on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 12:57 PM
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They are all disgusting for participating in such an event.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 12:55 PM
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Yes, that’s what I’m getting at. The guilt and shame surrounding sex can be so all-encompassing for women raised with purity culture BS that it impacts their married sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 12:49 PM
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And something else to consider is that a lot of religious women were raised in evangelical homes where purity culture is emphasized. There’s often a lot of trauma and uneasiness or even guilt surrounding sex for women brought up in that type of environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:46 PM
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Sleeping with 20 people over the course of one’s life in no way compares to fucking 100 dudes in one day. 🙄 Those women you’re referring to also represent a minority of women. There are also guys who have body counts of 20+, and yet there’s nobody in this sub calling for men to be subjugated because those promiscuous guys exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:31 PM
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Yes, that’s my point. OP is focusing on an extreme outlier situation involving one single woman. That’s why his argument is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:28 PM
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I appreciate the kind words!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:06 PM
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I hope CBT turns out to be tremendously helpful for you! I haven’t attempted therapy in a few years, but it’s definitely something I need to prioritize. I take medication, and while it helps with my generalized anxiety, it’s not really made much of a difference for the social anxiety. I think I’ll make an appointment this week with a therapist!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:37 PM
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This is my main issue. I’ll be 45 in two weeks, and I have no issues attracting men of all ages. But I’ve developed godawful social anxiety over the years, and I truly can’t imagine ever actually dating again. Like, I’m pretty much a hermit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:20 PM
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In July of 2006, I was nearing the end of a 5-mile jog on a bike path when I was attacked by a random man. I passed by him at the beginning of my jog and thought nothing of it. He waited in the adjacent wooded area for me to loop back around the path and attacked me from my side, tackling me to the ground. He was on top of me, trying to stifle my screams and simultaneously move me into the wooded area on the other side. If it weren't for a passerby coming by, I would have been raped and possibly…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:53 PM
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This is false. All of the data suggests that very few women have a lot of sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:58 PM
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There are 168.6 million women in the United States. That means less than 1% of American women (0.83%) have Only Fans accounts. So again, the vast, vast majority of women are not doing any kind of sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:57 PM
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Lol I just provided examples of the opposite of what you’re saying, and you went on a rant fantasizing about something that never happened/happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:52 PM
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Guys who have led a similar lifestyle are the ones who are more likely not to care about. Most of the people in my friend group were party types when they were younger, and they all married men who were also partiers. Neither my husband nor myself were saints in our twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:57 PM
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Yes. My own husband left me for another woman earlier this year after two decades together because I had fallen ill with a chronic health condition, which wasn’t fun for him. If I had been a stay-at-home mom, I would be totally fucked right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:38 PM
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And what is it that women advocate for? Women certainly aren't advocating for the removal of men's rights and fantasizing about a violent female rebellion where men are subjugated and made to be domestic slaves. More than a few men advocate for those things to happen to women, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:44 PM
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Because the man could leave the wife for another woman, turn out to be abusive, become disabled, or have any number of other things happen It’s very difficult to reenter the workforce after a significant gap in employment, and a woman who has been a SAHM for 10 or 15 years is probably going to struggle a great deal after divorce. This is especially true if she married young and doesn’t have a college education or much prior work experience. I’ve joined probably a dozen divorce support groups in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:48 PM
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I actually do think you’re showing some self awareness here, which is a step in the right direction! I’m on social media too much, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:04 PM
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Here’s the thing, though: A woman is much more likely to be attacked while walking alone at night or in a remote area. In that case, it doesn’t matter if she has a partner because he won’t be there to protect her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:53 PM
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“To those accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:37 PM
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You cannot be serious. Out of 4 billion women, there are bound to be a small percentage of completely unhinged ones. This porn star went viral precisely because what she’s doing is so outrageous and unusual. This is like saying that men need to be restrained and subjugated because Jeffrey Dahmer existed. 🙄 The vast, vast majority of people are not doing things like fucking hundreds of people per day or killing and consuming the flesh of one’s murder victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:31 PM
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You’re probably not seeing him mentioned in those forums because Tate’s target audience is unfortunately teen boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:19 PM
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Let me guess: Masculine men complain about women and feminism on a regular basis. Is that how you define masculine men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:42 PM
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OF COURSE you weren’t told that some women liked raunchy or rough sex when you were a boy. You were a child, so that’s not exactly something that children are going to be privy to. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:56 PM
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I’m probably the wrong person to say this to. My own husband just left me earlier this year to be with another woman (an old girlfriend of his from like 20 years ago). Had I not been working this whole time and instead been a homemaker, I would have been massively screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:46 PM
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Yep. I found this article to be very interesting. Rollo Tomassi vs Evolutionary Psychology - Date Psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:03 PM
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No, it doesn't. Rollo Tomassi vs Evolutionary Psychology - Date Psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:02 PM
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OP has discovered that women are people and not mythical angelic creatures! Oh, and he also discovered that many women enjoy a variety of sex acts and positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:58 PM
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We need to squash this myth that most women are housewives right now. For the love of God, it’s not 1950 anymore. All of the data shows that the majority of women work full-time jobs, including married women who are mothers. What you’re describing here in your post is not the norm for the majority of couples, and it hasn’t been for decades now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 05:39 PM
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How are you in a position to define the top 20% of men? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:22 PM
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Yes, that’s also true. One fact doesn’t negate the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:18 PM
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Nah, that’s not the answer. But being entirely financially reliant on one’s spouse is just a bad idea, for the most part, unless there is a prenup in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:15 PM
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Your insults don’t change the fact of the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:12 PM
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Doesn't this seem realistic, though? If the issue is that struggling guys want the more attractive women, specifically, then yeah, it would make sense that they'd likely need to be on the more attractive end themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:43 PM
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I agree with him to an extent. Most women do not have a "must be over 6'" requirement. I'm a relatively attractive woman with options, and I've never had this requirement. It's the same with most of the other women I know. With that being said, I do think there is a minimum height for some women that's closer to 5'7" or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:32 PM
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You're referring to a dating app survey from like a decade ago. And what guys always conveniently leave out when mentioning this statistic is that women still messaged those guys they didn't automatically label as attractive, so clearly many of those women still expressed interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:07 PM
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Even with marriage, it's still quite risky for the majority of women. Statistics show that women are far more likely to end up in poverty or severely struggling after divorce than men. Average couples don't have a great deal in assets, so your average stay-at-home mom/housewife ends up in a difficult financial predicament following divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:58 PM
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Yes, in “nearly half” (45%) of marriages, the husband is not the sole or primary breadwinner. In egalitarian marriages, there is no sole or primary breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:24 PM
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No, absolutely not. I’ve never preferred men with a lot of money or chased after them. I care far more about physical/sexual attraction and personality. Money does not produce desire for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:15 PM
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You can phrase it out however you want. The point remains that husbands are not the sole or primary breadwinners in nearly half of marriages. In those egalitarian marriages, neither partner can refer to themself as the “primary” breadwinner because both of them are on equal footing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:55 PM
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It’s a manosphere myth that women don’t use their income to contribute to bill payment. Utter nonsense speaed when there is no actual response to stats like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:52 PM
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Hygiene is critical for everyone, full stop. With that said, I’ve never been with a guy who regularly smelled like BO, even though none of my past partners shaved their armpits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:06 PM
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I shave my legs, pits, and pubic area simply because I can’t stand the feeling of hair growing back in. But I don’t care what other people do, and it’s ridiculous of OP to suggest that only women are unhygienic if they choose not to shave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:01 PM
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A very, very small percentage of women have ever done any form of sex work. In reality, young women are killing it in higher education and the workforce, as I’m sure you’re aware but pretend to be oblivious about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:50 PM
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Do you have evidence to suggest that home ownership amongst single women is largely due to being widowed or gaining inheritances?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:45 PM
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These guys always conveniently forget that egalitarian relationships are the norm these days rather than the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:41 AM
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Most women work and have their own incomes. Only 26% of mothers are stay-at-home parents. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/03/almost-1-in-5-stay-at-home-parents-in-the-us-are-dads/#:~:text=Dads%20make%20up%2018%25%20of,the%20US%20%7C%20Pew%20Research%20Center&text=Read%20our%20research%20on%3A,Vaccines And in 45% of American marriages, the husband is not the breadwinner. In those marriages, either the husband and wife earn about the same income or the wife is the breadwinner. http…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:35 AM
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This is one of the most absurd posts I’ve ever seen here. I don’t know any men who shave their armpits. You’re essentially insinuating that the vast majority of men are unhygienic, as well as the women who also choose not to shave. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:33 PM
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Young women in many metro areas are now out-earning similarly aged men. Furthermore, single women are buying more homes than single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:19 PM
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Let’s reverse roles here: Wives are free to seek sex from other partners so long as they are upfront with their husbands first. Given your stance, you should be a-okay with this. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:10 PM
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Same. I’d venture to say that this is more common than guys here seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:55 PM
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I don’t filter by height or any of the other qualities/characteristics you mentioned. The only thing I really filter for is age, as Im uninterested in dating someone young enough to be my son or old enough to be my dad. Also, I’ve never separated potential dates into categories—hookup/casual vs. serious/long-term. All of my previous relationships started as sort of FWB situationships and progressed to serious, long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:42 PM
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The person I am closest to in my life is my son. He’s literally my favorite human on this planet. I’m also very close with my father and brother. And I still maintain friendships with some of my exes—I’m not one who really has had bad experiences with men I’ve dated, with the exception of my soon-to-be ex-husband. Even then, he and I are cordial and will probably be on friendly enough terms going forward. I don’t hate men at all. I do dislike the sort of man who endorses red-pill/manosphere view…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 01:29 PM
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Please provide the study showing that more liberal women said it was okay to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:50 PM
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I highly doubt you know many liberal women in real life. Watching social media reels fed to you by various manosphere channels isn’t going to give you an accurate portrayal of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:01 PM
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Well, you’d be wrong on all accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:59 PM
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No, the reason I believe what I said is because I actually have real-life experience with the opposite gender, including friendships and romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:09 PM
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You conveniently neglected to mention the 29% of marriages where the husband and wife earn roughly the same income. But of course you did. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:07 PM
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Yeah, I have a couple small tattoos, too. I’m just pointing out that this manosphere perception of most liberal women having this very specific look (that the previous user mentioned) doesn’t really hold up to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:56 PM
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I have never dated a guy who was interested in a modest, submissive housewife. Some of you in this sub drastically overestimate the number of men who desire that sort of traditional relationship dynamic. Outside of extremely religious communities and niche manosphere spaces, most Western men are looking for equal partnerships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:21 PM
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You can find videos of people saying all sorts of crazy things. That doesn’t mean those views are representative of the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 03:08 PM
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Yeah, none of the liberal woman I know look like the caricature you just described, myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 03:01 PM
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This is such a false stereotype. I’m a liberal woman who looks like any other typical woman. Most of the women I know are also liberals who don’t have extravagant hair colors or facial tattoos or piercings and aren’t overweight or obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:48 PM
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What does this mean? As a liberal woman, I’m just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:44 PM
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Many women were fucked over in the past due to not have rights and opportunities that allowed them to be financially secure. They had to partner with men they weren't attracted to or didn't treat them right. And yet, so many guys in the pilled spaces want to return to that time. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:56 PM
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The data does show that the majority of young men (ages 18-29) are having sex. The most recent General Social Survey data from 2022 shows that only 11% of young men in that age cohort previously mentioned didn’t have sex that year. https://ifstudies.org/blog/is-the-sex-recession-over#:~:text=The%20downward%20trend%20in%20the,slightly%20to%2035%25%20in%202022
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:43 PM
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In nearly half of American marriages, the husband is not he breadwinner. In those marriages, either the husband and wife earn roughly the same (29%) or the wife is the breadwinner (16%). So in this day and age, it shouldn’t be too difficult to find women who earn good incomes and already have their own assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:43 PM
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I'll share a different perspective. I have a son who is almost 15. My husband (son's father) and I are going through a divorce because he decided to have an affair and essentially leave me for the other woman. My son is handling it very well, and he's not at all happy with his father, especially because my ex has suddenly turned very nasty toward me. I share this information not to gloat or make HappyCat feel bad, but to show that every situation is different and every kid will react differently…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:33 PM
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I've never really separated guys into categories like that. All of my relationships started out casually as sort of FWB situationships and then progressed to serious, long-term relationships. And no, I was never intimidated by my partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:21 PM
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The vast majority of people in general (both women and men) have at least some baggage as they grow older. But everyone deals with their life experiences differently. You might view a specific woman as having baggage, but it may not really affect her like you think it does. Like, I’ve had a handful of long-term relationships. None of those relationships involved drama or trauma, with the exception of my marriage. And even then, it hasn’t jaded me to men (non “pilled”/manosphere men, that is) or …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 03:41 PM
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Most women are not Instagram models/influencers whose entire identities are wrapped up in social media popularity contests.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:48 PM
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And yet, when guys were yammering on about the sexlessness rate a couple years ago, they were referring to the General Social Survey from prior to 2022–the exact same survey as I cited. Funny how that works—-the data is useful when it’s convenient for your narrative, and it’s useless when it’s not. You do realize that men can be technically single—meaning not in a serious, long-term relationship—and still be having sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:37 PM
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The vast majority of young men are not sexless. In fact, only 11% of young men didn’t have sex in 2022, the last year for which there is data on the matter. https://ifstudies.org/blog/is-the-sex-recession-over#:~:text=The%20downward%20trend%20in%20the,slightly%20to%2035%25%20in%202022
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:16 PM
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Oh, not me, I am absolutely petrified of spiders. Even the smallest ones!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:04 PM
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I've seen men argue that women shouldn't have the right to vote on so many different subs. Can you imagine the uproar if the reverse were happening all over the place?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:39 PM
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I keep seeing guys say they've seen posts or comment like what you've mentioned on TwoX or other female-centered subs. But I've never come across such content. Could you link to specific examples of such violently hateful content from TwoX (or another female sub)?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:30 PM
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Imagine referring to someone with a career earning a six-figure salary as a "bum." This post is honestly too absurd to address further.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:45 PM
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statistically, a woman’s husband or intimate partner is the most likely to assault or abuse her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:43 PM
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The way that you are speaking about women shows that you very much care and are very unhappy with women achieving financial independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:32 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:35 PM
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I would never consider cold-approaching men who are strangers. However, I have been the one to initiate things with two of my exes, both of whom I already knew as friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:00 PM
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This is absolutely true as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:29 PM
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Every time guys mention the draft, they conveniently fail to also address this. Conservatives are the ones who want to bar women from signing up for the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:30 PM
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And we have our daily dose of rectally-sourced statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:19 PM
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Expand your social circles and meet people organically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:04 PM
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I appreciate the kind words. It’s been a very rough year (I found out this past February), but I’m trying to remain hopeful for the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:18 PM
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In order for this to truly protect the homemaker spouse, there would need to be a legal contract put into place ahead of time—a prenuptial agreement, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:16 PM
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So, you asked how it worked in the past. I’m honestly not sure, other than couples remained together even under the worst of circumstances. But take my current situation: My husband recently left me to be with an old girlfriend of his. I have been sick with a chronic health condition for two years, and that wasn’t fun for him so he bailed. If I was a SAHM, I would be absolutely screwed. In fact, I’m in support groups for women who are divorced or in the process of divorcing. Most of the women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:19 PM
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Sure, it seems that you’re describing the more radical, activist type feminists, and I would certainly agree that those women are more likely to remain childless. The majority of us who identify as feminists don’t fit that radical stereotype. We’re just normal people who have left-leaning views.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:11 PM
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It’s tough out there for many people. I’ll be the first to admit that dating apps are brutal for a lot of men. I really think dating through social circles is the best way to go, but that is also difficult if you’re an introvert or have social anxiety or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:07 PM
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I am a feminist and have a child. Most of the women I know identify as feminists, and a majority of them are married and have one or two kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:11 PM
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While I agree that most women won’t partake in the 4B movement, more people than you think have knowledge of the movement. I’m in dozens of FB groups that are centered on all sorts of topics and interests, and I’m seeing men and women both discuss the movement all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:01 PM
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Your main premise is false. Most young men are having sex. In the last year for which we have data, only 11% of young men ages 18-29 didn’t have sex. https://ifstudies.org/blog/is-the-sex-recession-over
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:53 PM
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So, this should go for both genders then. If a 350 lb. woman with a very unattractive face asks you out on a date, then you are obligated to go on that date with her. Otherwise you are being mean to all women, and we wouldn’t want to vote your rights away, now would we?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:45 PM
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Let’s be honest: When you say women should be “nice” to men or else their rights will be voted away, you really mean that women need to fuck men in order to preserve their rights. Say it with your whole chest. You are directly threatening women with the loss of human rights, and you should say exactly what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:40 PM
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What’s the second way that it’s a win for men that’s not publicly discussed?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:01 PM
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I subscribe to AskMen as a woman just to get an understanding of men’s point of view. I don’t think this is unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:17 PM
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Please provide your peer-reviewed scientific sources that show patriarchy works best for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:57 PM
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While 60ish% of young men are technically single (meaning not in serious long-term relationships), most of them are having sex. Only 11% of men ages 18-29 didn’t have sex in the past year. https://ifstudies.org/blog/is-the-sex-recession-over
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:57 PM
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I am not seeing a single woman say “kill all men.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:36 PM
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Yeah, Im certainly not going to condone or justify it. My point is simply that guys will complain about these extremely fringe radfem communities, while completely ignoring the much more common vitriol that comes from manosphere and alt-right spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:20 PM
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No. The men I see saying this crap follow it up by mentioning that women are too emotional and can’t be trusted to vote for society’s best interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:14 PM
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Let's be honest: That's the major selling point for a lot of these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:49 PM
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There’s no excuse. I’m more disappointed in the women who voted for him than the men who did.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:52 PM
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The election, specifically, hasn’t changed anything for me. I still want to date men, but I’ve long been uninterested in dating conservative men. As for concerns over pregnancy, that’s not an issue for me since I had a hysterectomy in 2021 for health reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:50 PM
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It’s really not all that far-fetched to think that no-fault divorce is on the chopping block. Vance and other Republican lawmakers have said they want to do away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:47 PM
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Same. I have never once come across that statement while on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:53 PM
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I’ve seen “repeal the 19th amendment” no less than a dozen times on various social media just today alone. There are apparently reports of teenaged boys in schools yesterday saying “your body, my choice,” which was echoed by the misogynistic white supremacist Nick Fuentes after Trump’s victory. These are not super rare, fringe sentiments. It’s all over the place. And yet, I can’t recall ever actually seeing someone say “kill all men,” outside of men’s rights activists sharing posts from radfem e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:50 PM
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Can you imagine the uproar if women started threatening to remove men’s rights? I mean, some of you lose your ever-loving minds when a woman merely calls a man an insulting name. That is nowhere even remotely as problematic as threatening to remove rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:46 PM
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Abortion is one thing, but if birth control and other contraceptives are restricted or outright made illegal, then you’ll see a whole lot of women refrain from sex altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:30 PM
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I’m just never sure on this sub. But thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:48 AM
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I'm not familiar with Hinge, but I haven't really been a fan of Bumble or Tinder. I've been most impressed with the quality of guys on FB Dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:43 AM
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You have to understand that most of us women are completely uninterested in sex on demand from a bunch of random dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:34 AM
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Yes, most women aren’t corporate boss babes. But most married women are mothers who do have normal careers. Only 26% are stay-at-home moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:14 AM
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If you are being genuine, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:39 PM
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I don’t think infidelity should be considered a crime. But I do think it should impact the division of assets in a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 02:01 PM
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Oh, okay. Thank you for the clarification!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 01:59 PM
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No, but I’m older and have had a lot of dating experience. These echo chambers make it seem like men and women hate each other, but I’ve never really experienced this in real life. I should add that I haven’t dated again since the manosphere became popular, so having learned about the pills, I will definitely be more cautious when dating this time around (I’m just now going through a divorce).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 01:29 PM
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As the mother of a boy, those comments are downright awful. I would never in a million years want to trade in my son for a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:16 PM
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I couldn’t agree more. So many issues discussed here seem to come down to under-socialization and a lack of experience with interacting with the opposite gender on even a platonic level.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:52 PM
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There are zero states where anyone is convicted of crimes related to infidelity. And in most states, infidelity isn’t even a consideration in divorce proceedings. I’m in a no-fault state. My husband had an affair and left me, and his infidelity has zero bearing on our divorce. None whatsoever. It’s not even admissible evidence in court.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:49 PM
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Or if the higher earning partner is the cheater, he (or she) should part with a higher percentage of their assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:47 PM
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It seems like an issue with under-socialization more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:43 PM
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Those issues that the previous user mentioned do affect men more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:38 PM
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My husband and I sent our son to an in-home daycare provider when he was little, and he loved it. It really worked out great for our family. Also, congratulations and I’m wishing you all the best!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:20 PM
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Most women are able to continue working throughout their pregnancy. And then they take maternity leave and go right back to work. That’s exactly what I did, and that’s the norm rather than the exception. I worked in the office until a week before I delivered my son, and then worked from home for a few days before delivering my son. I took two months of paid maternity leave and returned to work. Every woman that I worked with who had children did pretty much the same thing. (I will say that mater…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:11 PM
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This is pretty much how my dad explained things growing up. When I was a teenager, he wasn’t that stereotypical father who was threatening toward boys I dated. And he was a big dude, too, but he never played the overprotective dad role. Most importantly, he instilled in me the importance of education and financial dependence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:06 PM
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Perhaps they aren’t paranoid and are simply uninterested in chatting with you. That seems to be the more likely reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:05 PM
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Plenty of men value women beyond just sex. What a misogynistic thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 08:19 PM
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I really don't think this is happening with any sort of statistically meaningful frequency. Instead, I'd say there are the following two factors at play: 1.) Some young women are dating guys a few years older than themselves. 2.) Some young couples disagree on their relationship status. In a time where FWB situationships are common, it's not far-fetched to speculate that some young men consider themselves to be in a casual FWB relationship with their female partner, while the woman assumes that …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:49 PM
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Yeah, no. The data shows that when both partners work full-time, the woman ends up doing more household work and childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:12 PM
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Don’t give up. I really admire your optimistic outlook. And I very much hope you meet a wonderful woman soon!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:49 PM
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Yes, I understand that some men are concerned with modesty and virginity. Those men are typically very religious, and they account for a small percentage of men overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:27 PM
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Again, this is how normal people operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:17 PM
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More and more couples are in long-term relationships but foregoing marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:11 PM
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That’s really not the norm, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:03 PM
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Are you familiar with the concept of limerence? If not, you should really look into it. I believe there’s even a sub related to it on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:10 PM
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Wrong. It should come down to the number of hours worked. If both partners are working a similar number of hours, they both contribute evenly to the domestic duties. That’s what normal people do at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:30 PM
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Nah, I don’t actually spend that much time here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:14 PM
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If you are advocating for men not to marry, I will assume you aren’t one to complain about the falling birth rate. Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:34 PM
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Interesting. I see far more young conservative talking about wanting to have the traditional relationship dynamic where they stay home and tend to the chores and childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:13 PM
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Why do you think it gets media exposure in the first place? Because it’s not normal at all and people find it shocking. Seriously, get a grip. Most women do not lust over serial killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:08 PM
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Traditional conservative women are the ones who are far more likely to want to be 100% provided for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:28 PM
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Most couples are dual income with both partners working full-time. In that dynamic, couples should be sharing the domestic chores and childcare. It’s really not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:25 PM
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I’m a recovering addict and alcoholic and have been through treatment programs before. As a result, I’ve met hundreds of other recovering addicts and alcoholics from all sorts of backgrounds, from doctors who had painkiller addictions to people with multiple felonies who have spent years in and out of prison. I mention this because through my encounters with female addicts, I learned about why male addicts are far more likely to remain homeless and on the streets. The reason is not because peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:20 PM
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I don’t necessarily agree with these other commenters. I’ve been married once, and I don’t ever want to get married again. If both partners are on board with it, I don’t see anything wrong with not marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:51 PM
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The data indicates otherwise, so obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:30 PM
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Yeah, I’m in mid-forties and going through a divorce right now. I have a teenaged son. I’d like to date again, but I don’t want to remarry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:20 PM
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Most women are not attracted to serial killers. 🙄 You hear about the women who are obsessed with guys like Wade Wilson precisely because it’s so rare and shocking. The majority of women want nothing to do with a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:18 PM
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There are also men who have publicly professed their desire for Casey Anthony and Jodi Arias. So there are crazy people of both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:50 PM
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Men here are the ones who claim that most women are in love with serial killers and drug-dealing, violent felons. It’s something we see mentioned in this sub practically every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:48 PM
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But as others have said, all women are different. If I’ve made it clear that I’m not interested in the beginning, I mean that and I do not want the guy to continue pursuing me. That, in fact, would make me very uncomfortable. However, some women are probably okay with a bit of a chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:45 PM
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Yeah, that makes sense. Totally understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:21 PM
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It’s understandable if you don’t have children of your own. I just wondered if not having to be involved with raising younger children would sway your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:02 PM
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For women who participate in hookup culture, this is likely true for the most part. But when it comes to serious dating and marriage, women care about both physical attraction and personality/character.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:42 AM
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What if you were in your 40s or 50s and the woman had kids but they were adults? Would that charge your opinion on dating a woman with kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:25 AM
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The majority of couples have a 2 or 3-year age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:03 PM
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Would you become a stay-at-home husband/father if you could? If not, why would you do so hypothetically as a woman but not a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:02 PM
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I completely disagree. One can be sexually experienced or even forward while still being respectful and ensuring consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:22 PM
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I don’t consider a normal guy who is simply outgoing and experienced to be a red flag, so there’s the problem. Plenty of those types of guys are kind men. Some are douchey, and some are kind. You manosphere types villainize men who are completely normal dudes. It’s really bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:20 PM
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The assumption here is that women marry the boring, inexperienced guy most of the time. I’m saying that’s not true. Income is irrelevant here. I’m talking about looks, personality, and social status. Most women marry guys who are similar to themselves and have led similar lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:17 PM
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This is very age-dependent. Between ages 18 and 20, half of young men are virgins. After 22, only 7.85% of men are virgins. After 25, only 1.9% of men are virgins. https://datepsychology.com/are-27-of-young-men-really-virgins-and-why/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:31 PM
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No, I think misandry exists. There are women who genuinely hate all men and wish terrible things upon them. But I think red pillers/manospherians often label women as misandrists for even mentioning bad experiences they’ve had with men, including sexual assault, or for suggesting that they simply don’t want to date men. That’s not misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:26 PM
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So, I’m not hearing what MRAs are doing. That was my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:07 PM
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Of course they will choose the interesting guy over the boring one. But again, that’s an entirely different thing than suggesting that most women choose to fuck and date drug-addled felons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:06 PM
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Couples are generally evenly matched in most ways, including looks. There’s even research available on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:04 PM
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Women value both, actually. And there are plenty of men who fit that bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:56 PM
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There’s a huge chasm between violent or drug-dealing felon and normal guy who isn’t violent or a criminal but is outgoing and likes to party. You do know that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:55 PM
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I’m saying that this trend isn’t as common as some within the manosphere think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:53 PM
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I’m saying that this trend isn’t as common as some within the manosphere think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:53 PM
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What are MRAs doing, specifically, to address the higher education issue with boys and young men? Shouting about women and feminism does not constitute doing anything productive. So what are some actionable steps they are taking to address the problem? I’d honestly be interested to hear more about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:50 PM
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Yeah, seems to be the case for some. It’s just absurd to blame this on women and feminism. Boys have to actually take the initiative to apply to college in order to be admitted. We need to find out why more boys and young men don’t view college as an appealing prospect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:47 PM
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Lol…”You’re wrong.” Oh, yes. You, a man, know everything about what women want. 🙄😂 And no, rage-bait social media reels are not indicative of real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:44 PM
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Then he wasn’t a friend in the first place, so good riddance to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:36 PM
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“That my friend is the origin of misogyny.” You can’t be serious with that claim. Misogyny has existed for millenia, long before women even attained equal rights. Misogyny is usually rooted in feelings of male superiority and failure to view women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:35 PM
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Men falling behind in higher education is certainly a problem that needs to be addressed. But why is this the fault of feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:43 PM
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Actually, the majority of women—American women, at least—do identify as feminists. According to a recent Pew Research survey, 61% of American women describe themselves as feminists. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/07/07/61-of-u-s-women-say-feminist-describes-them-well-many-see-feminism-as-empowering-polarizing/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:39 PM
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Most women want to date men who are taller than themselves. The average woman is only 5’4”, so the vast majority of men are taller than most women. The “must be over 6’” social media obsession is very much limited to a minority of women who are on the dating apps. If you look around anywhere out in public, you will see tons of men under 6’ partnered up. And if you talk to actual women (rather than go by Tik Tok reeks), you will find that most women prioritize facial attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:34 PM
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It’s not idiocy. It’s absolutely a relevant quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:36 PM
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Again, the women those guys get with are generally troubled themselves. I’m a long-term recovering alcoholic. When I was in rehab years ago, I met hundreds of fellow recovering addicts and alcoholics. And you’re right that some of the guys were popular with the women. But the women were just like them—they often had criminal records and were recovering addicts and alcoholics themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:15 PM
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Most of us married guys who led similar lives as we did. I don’t know one woman who ended up marrying the inexperienced beta bucks type that the manosphere mythologizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:12 PM
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As a woman, I disagree. An attractive face takes precedent over other features. I e heard most women suggest the same 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 11:56 AM
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And you don't think thin women have this problem but in reverse? As a thin woman, the majority of men around my age are either overweight or obese. So this argument really doesn't make sense from a gendered perspective. Most women *and* men are fat. If you're a thin, fit person and you want to date someone similar to yourself, you're obviously going to have a smaller pool of people to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 10:35 PM
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"To those accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 09:41 PM
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Yeah, this describes me well. This discussion and the comments are so interesting to me, because I'm the opposite of a late bloomer. I was very popular and sociable in high school and college (really all through my twenties), and now I'm quite introverted and don't really socialize with anyone outside of my family. I developed social anxiety over the last decade, and I fear that I will never break out of my shell again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:29 PM
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Why is height included by not body type? Both of those are related to looks, and neither can be changed. A woman can't change her core body structure through weight loss and exercise. For example, I have a slender, athletic body type and I'm not very curvy. I will never be able to achieve the hourglass figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:08 PM
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Facial attractiveness generally matters more than any other physical trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:58 PM
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And what I’m saying is that there are plenty of men who do value those things. It’s important to them when vetting women early on while dating. The type of men who say they couldn’t care less if a woman is a cashier or a lawyer are typically not going to be viewed as great dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:00 PM
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Where are you getting your information from that these violent men are dating educated, middle-class or higher women? Rage-bait manosphere content does not count as evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:55 PM
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Who do you think those violent men with felony records are dating? It’s typically not the college-educated woman with a good career who has her life together. No, those men usually date and fuck women who have a criminal history, drug/alcohol issues, or trauma from an abusive past.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:15 PM
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Major yikes here. 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:15 PM
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I’m often told the same thing when I discuss dating in my forties.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 10:15 PM
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Nobody is saying that one should be attracted to a potential partner’s career. But there is generally an expectation that one will care about, and be supportive of, their partner’s career and accomplishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:43 PM
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Are you serious? Those things are a fundamental part of a person’s life. Of course they are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:38 PM
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Because a person’s career, educational background, and social standing are all important aspects of their life and who they are. When a guy says he doesn’t care about those things, it really comes across as though he doesn’t care about a woman’s accomplishments and experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:15 PM
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It’s not about trying to buy happiness. It’s about making sure that we have secure employment and income in the event that something goes wrong in our relationship or marriage. Being entirely financially dependent on someone else is such a terribly risky thing to do. Most of us personally know at least woman who was a SAHM and blindsided by divorce, and then ultimately left in a horrible predicament.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:39 PM
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Same. The only girls I knew when growing up who were encouraged by their parents to strive to be housewives were raised in super religious homes. And this was like 30 years ago, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:29 PM
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Yeah, I don’t know what these religious organizations expected to happen. When you’re told that your primary purpose is to serve as a “helpmeet” for your husband, it’s not exactly very appealing to many young women..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:11 PM
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Well, lived experience is absolutely relevant for the vast majority of people. In July of 2006, I was attacked while jogging on a bike path. If it weren’t for a passerby coming along seconds after I was thrown to the ground, I would have been raped and possibly even worse. (My attacker was apprehended and went on to serve 3.5 years out of an 8-year sentence.) A year later, I was drugged and raped by yet another man who was a stranger. I never reported this incident because I had been in a bar, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:05 PM
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As a thin, fit woman, I prefer to date guys who are also in shape and at a healthy weight. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for people to want to date those who lead similar lifestyles. I don’t think that’s superficial at all, and again as long as guys aren’t rude and offensive when discussing their preferences, it shouldn’t be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:57 PM
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She did not have an affair with Willie Brown. He had been separated from his wife for more than a decade when he started dating Harris. Please research your claims before spouting false information. https://www.factcheck.org/2024/08/posts-mislead-about-harris-romance-with-willie-brown/ https://www.reuters.com/article/world/fact-check-kamala-harrisandwillie-brownhad-a-relationshipover-adecadeafte-idUSKBN26Y2RJ/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:38 PM
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This is the main reason why being a tradwife is so risky, and why many women advise younger women to seriously consider the risks involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:36 PM
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Yes, women are leaving organized religion. https://theweek.com/religion/young-women-leaving-church https://www.americansurveycenter.org/newsletter/young-women-are-leaving-church-in-unprecedented-numbers/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:32 PM
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The people who shame men for simply stating their preferences are ridiculous. However, it’s often the case that men not only state their preferences, but do so in a way that shames or insults the group of women they aren’t attracted to. So, if a guy says he doesn’t want to date landwhales, that’s of course to going to get pushback, and for good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:25 PM
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There are significant biological differences between men and women. Even a shorter, thin man can overpower the vast, vast majority of women. Also, you don’t get to speak for women and their own experiences and concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:20 PM
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The vast, vast majority of men can overpower the vast, vast majority of women. I’ve read that by the time most teen boys are like 14, they are stronger than the majority of adult women. So, size really doesn’t matter so much. A short, thin man is still going to have a very significant strength advantage over most women due to biological differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:15 PM
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Okay, yeah I’m just not seeing women saying that. But I do agree with you that neither men nor women should have to justify their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 11:59 AM
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Where are you getting the 27% statistic? Because that’s simply not true. In 2022 alone, only 11% of men ages 18-29 didn’t have sex. https://ifstudies.org/blog/is-the-sex-recession-over#:~:text=The%20downward%20trend%20in%20the,slightly%20to%2035%25%20in%202022
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:41 PM
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You can choose not to believe me, and you won’t because what you’re hearing doesn’t conform to your preconceived worldview about only men being screwed over. The point that most people are making here is that shitty behavior isn’t exclusive to women. There are men who do shitty things, too. It’s really a very simple concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:53 PM
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Lol I’ve only known about his affair since February of this year, and neither of us formally filed until this last month. And no, I’m physically unwell. I have a severe and chronic GI condition that leaves me nauseous and in pain most of the time. I have bowel endometriosis and require multiple surgeries to excuse the rogue tissue, but it always returns.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:50 PM
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I don’t see women here saying they want tall and strong men for protection reasons. Many women like those physical traits because they are attractive, not because they require protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:46 PM
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I’m going to add to my previous comment that I wrote to you about my husband leaving me: I’m 5’4” and 120 pounds, and don’t look much different body-wise now than I did 20 years ago. My husband still left me for another woman who is the same age as me and about 30 pounds heavier than me. Everything that you’ve said is just flat-out wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:19 PM
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WRONG. My soon-to-be ex-husband is leaving me for an ex-girlfriend of his because I’ve been sick with a chronic health condition for a couple years, and that’s not fun for him, so he bailed. He’s still very much attracted to me, though, and continues to try to sleep with me any day when I’m not feeling terribly unwell (he and I still live together while the divorce is pending). And I’m in online support groups for women who are going through exactly what I’m going through that have tens of thous…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:13 PM
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Most couples will go their entire lives without needing to protect one another in a life-or-death scenario. This is such a silly thing for dudes to harp on. It’s also 2024 and anyone can learn how to use a weapon for self-defense. It’s not like we are living in the Middle Ages when men did often need to use their brute strength to protect their loved ones from warring tribes or wild animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:05 PM
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Only 26% of married women are stay-at-home parents. Furthermore, in 45% of American marriages, the husband is not the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:15 PM
1

I don’t necessarily disagree, but can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:11 PM
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“Women don’t do any meaningful work…” This is another brain-dead take. Nobody is going to take you seriously with comments like that, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:27 PM
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I think for a lot of women, it’s not even so much about the orgasm gap as it is safety. It often doesn’t occur to men just how risky it is for women to meet up with men we don’t know very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:13 PM
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This is a wild take, considering that countries that don’t have equal rights and opportunities have far worse outcomes for basically every measurable factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:51 PM
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This is inaccurate. In 2022, the rates of sexual activity among young people reached highs not seen in 25 years. Only 12% of young women and 11% of young men didn’t have sex that year. I don’t think the day is out for 2023 yet, unless someone can find it. https://ifstudies.org/blog/is-the-sex-recession-over#:~:text=The%20downward%20trend%20in%20the,slightly%20to%2035%25%20in%202022
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:33 PM
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This is an important distinction. I would imagine that some young guys view their relationships more as FWB-type situationships, while their female partners consider themselves to be in serious, long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:29 PM
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Yes, I understand the concern some guys have about being the safe/reliable option. I just don’t think this happens nearly as often as some men here think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:47 AM
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Again, even when there are excellent men to choose from, some women just prefer to remain single—maybe not permanently, but for an extended period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:52 PM
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Sometimes women just opt not to date, and it's not due to lack of male interest. For example, I'm going through a divorce and have been on the dating apps for a few months. There are plenty of great guys I've matched with on there, but I'm just unsure if I want to date again. So I'm just pointing out that some women choose to be single and aren't forced into singledom due to lack of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 09:15 PM
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My thoughts as well. This guy has zero clue what he’s talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 03:14 PM
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I mostly agree. One exception to this would be Only Fans or similar cam work-type platforms where the content creators and subscribers can privately interact with another.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 12:19 PM
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Just wanted to say that I’m cool with house clothes and actually prefer that over more formal wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:29 PM
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Same preference here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:28 PM
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I honestly don’t care about fashion much at all. I’ve never dated a guy who was big into fashion, and that’s totally fine by me. T-shirts and basketball shorts/pants or cargo shorts/pants are perfectly okay. I think I actually prefer a guy dressed down like that over a guy who dresses up more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:27 PM
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I couldn’t agree more!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:26 PM
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It’s hilarious that you think most men don’t have any negative traits while most women do. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:20 PM
2

In reality, both men and women who have all sorts of negative traits (and what’s considered negative is often subjective) end up in relationships, and typically with equally “flawed” partners. This isn’t a gendered issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 04:40 PM
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Sure, and women should discipline their husbands when they get out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 01:07 PM
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Huh? Plenty of those types of women are in relationships and even married. So clearly, you’re wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:57 PM
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Do you hear that, men? You are not alpha-sigma-gamma-delta enough if you don't discipline your wives like they're your children!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:05 AM
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This simply isn't true. Most women will acknowledge that there are plenty of shitty (even abusive) women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:01 AM
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It always strikes me as odd that so many guys here seem to think that the only ways to date are either through the dating apps or by cold-approaching complete strangers. Throughout most of history, most people dated through their social circles or through common places of interaction, like school, college, the workplace, church, or hobby groups. That is still a far more common way to date than through cold approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:30 PM
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Women could do the same thing. If you’re talking about using violence to enforce something, a woman could do the same thing to a man and then be apprehended, charged, convicted, and punished. You are not special because you have a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:48 PM
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Many feminists advocate for either abolishing the draft altogether or, if that’s not possible, then for adding women to the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:28 PM
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I agree. I’ve seen some things on TwoX that I thought were outrageous. I should probably be more proactive in calling out harmful or inaccurate information.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 12:24 PM
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As with many groups, the most radical feminist voices often tarnish the reputation of the rest of us who, as you’ve said, are just ordinary people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:47 PM
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Plenty of men like tattooed women and don’t share your view, so clearly you can’t speak for everyone. Your personal opinion is not a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:26 PM
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Yeah, I’ve seen many feminist women condemn Heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:19 PM
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My comment is self-explanatory. I think we are done with this convo at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:20 PM
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I’m in my mid-forties, and so is he. My husband and I already had our kid 14 years ago. Neither of us were, or are, looking to reproduce anymore. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:25 PM
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Such a sweet story. I’m so glad they got to enjoy most of their final years together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:23 PM
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I got sick. That has nothing to do with a genetic fail. 🙄 And yes, most sane, decent people expect that their spouses won’t leave them if they become ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:21 PM
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This is so lovely for your grandma! I’ve heard so many stories of elderly people meeting their partners in assisted living communities or retirement homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:37 PM
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What does this even mean? 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:54 AM
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I will reveal whatever I want to reveal. What I forgot to add was that I’ve been sick with a chronic illness for about a year and a half, which is why he bailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:46 AM
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My husband left me for a woman the same age as me. And he’s a stereotypical Chad type and easily could have dated a much younger woman. Many guys care about looks but also having things in common with their partners. A 41 year-old isn’t going to have much of anything in common with a 22 year-old.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:41 PM
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Class issues aren’t discussed enough in this sub. Lower-income people in general tend to not have a lengthy list of standards they expect when seeking out partners. A quick trip to Walmart in literally any town or city will make it immediately evident that people don’t need to be anywhere near perfect in order to date and get into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:26 PM
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Honestly, the messages I get are very respectful most of the time. I’ve never had a guy send a dick pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:02 PM
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It’s unfortunate that all male virgins are sometimes lumped into the same category as misogynistic incels. I disagree with shaming men for their lack of sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:51 PM
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Sorry for the delay! Yes to everything u/fluttertutt has said. I get a lot of generic messages from guys: “Hey there!” or “Hi! How are you doing?” or “Beautiful!” There’s nothing inherently wrong with the generic messages. However, a guy who takes the time to read my bio and prompts and start with something more personalized is far more likely to get my attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:10 PM
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Brute force. There's no denying that men are superior in terms of strength and physicality. However, men have never been inherently more intelligent than women. Men simply forbade women from fully participating in education and the workforce until relatively recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:26 PM
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If people have recently told you these things on Reddit, you should be able to link to threads from your comment history so that others here can see what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:50 PM
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No, of course not. I have seen some people say that guys who haven't had a relationship by a certain age (say, 30) are a potential yellow flag, as some speculate as to why someone has made it that far without any relationship experience. And many would wonder about a 30+ year-old woman without any relationship experience, too. But I think most rational people would take each person on a case-by-case basis. An older virgin may have any number of reasons that aren't immoral in nature as to why the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:45 PM
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Yeah, I get messages from guys I haven’t matched with all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:04 PM
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Thank you so much for the kind words! I’ve been sick for about a year and a half with a condition that primarily impacts my gastrointestinal system. I spend much of the time nauseous, constipated, and sometimes in pain. I just had a colonoscopy and endoscopy performed two days ago, and they discovered significant inflammation all over my stomach. They also removed and biopsied a couple polyps. So I’m just waiting to see what my next steps might be. And that’s great that you and your partner both…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:58 PM
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I do my hair, skincare, and makeup every single day, even if I’m not going somewhere. I just feel more put together and ready for my day. Now, I don’t dress up, though, unless I’m going somewhere. I know many women who maintain their appearance regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:39 PM
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Yeah, OP skipped over a few things. Many women have long hair, which requires a good bit of upkeep. Every other day I wash and condition my hair, and then spend about 10 minutes drying it and 20 minutes curling it. I also go to the salon once every other month to get it colored and highlighted. And then there’s my multi-step skincare routine, which I do morning and night. I rotate through about & different products. And in the morning, I spend about 10-15 minutes applying makeup. I also workout,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:36 PM
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It would seem that there are more women than men who can be classified as morbidly obese. However, that doesn’t change the fact that the overall percentage of men who are either overweight or obese is similar to that of women. It’s just that on the highest end of the spectrum, there are more women who are severely obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:17 PM
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As a thin woman, I’m only interested in dating men who are fit. And it’s very reasonable that you, as a fit man, want to date a woman similar to yourself. But let’s not pretend that there aren’t a lot of fat men out there. I always roll my eyes when guys online complain about there being too many overweight or obese women, when statistics show that an equivalent number of men are overweight and obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:30 PM
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Interesting, because most of the men I’ve known and dated have very much cared about my education and career. Perhaps it all depends on what kind of people one surrounds themself with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:16 PM
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It’s not a positive thing that many men don’t care about a woman’s career or other particulars of her life. This often means that they don’t care much about the woman as a person, including her passions, accomplishments, and interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:12 PM
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Here’s the thing: Parents do not need to be married or even romantically coupled in order for both parents to be involved in their child’s life. Case in point: My husband and I are in the process of divorce (due to his affair), and despite this, he will still be an equally present and involved father in our son’s life. He will have our son half of the time. Most states now have default 50/50 custody in place, unless there is documented abuse or one of the parents simply doesn’t want shared respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:59 PM
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I’m saying that false rape allegations are awful, but that they are much rarer than actual rapes where the perpetrator goes free and without punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:45 AM
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Thank you! I hope you have a nice day and rest of your week!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:13 AM
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A woman forcing a man to penetrate should absolutely be classified as rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:12 AM
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Oh, for sure. Rape is the most underreported crime, but it also has one of the lowest conviction rates, if not the lowest one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:53 PM
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While these examples are awful, there are far more rapists and sexual abusers who are never even charged with crimes than there are innocent men who were wrongly accused. But you never hear men discussing this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:38 PM
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Same here, but this was also nearly thirty years ago when I was that age. I was a few weeks shy of turning 17 when I lost my virginity, and I was a bit of a late bloomer compared to my friends and peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 12:39 PM
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How are red pillers respecting everyone around them? The entire ideology is built on disrespect and disdain for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:03 PM
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This is not the gotcha you think it is. If men can’t be peaceful unless they are getting laid or in a romantic relationship, the problem is not with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:55 PM
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This is a good time to point out that there are more appropriate places to cold approach than others. When grocery shopping, people are just trying to get their errands finished and usually aren’t interested in socializing. Bars and clubs, however, are designed for socializing, so it’s far more appropriate to approach in those places.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:46 PM
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Only 26% of mothers stay home with their children. Most couples now are dual earners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:44 PM
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The vast majority of addicts and alcoholics struggle with mental health disorders and have experienced trauma in their lives. It’s usually the mental health problems and trauma that lead to the addiction problems. Anyway, thank you for the kind words! I’ve been sober for many years now, so I’ve since rebuilt my life. I am currently going through a divorce, so it’s an extremely difficult time for me but I’m absolutely committed to staying sober throughout this ordeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:18 PM
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I’m a recovering addict and alcoholic, so I unfortunately have experience with addiction and know many people who have gone through addiction. For some, jail is preferable to homelessness. You have a roof over your head and you don’t need to worry about finding food. Others may find homelessness preferable to jail. Both situations are obviously awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 12:00 PM
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That’s not how I view attractiveness. There is a small percentage of men that I find very attractive and a small percentage that I think are ugly. In between those extremes, the majority of men are just average in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 11:57 AM
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He also doesn’t seem to understand just how bad alcoholism can be. As a recovering alcoholic, some of the saddest and worst addiction stories I’ve heard in treatment and AA rooms were told by alcoholics. Alcoholism can be every bit as awful as addiction to hard drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:40 PM
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Addicts and alcoholics will sometimes collect them and sell them for drinking or drug money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:37 PM
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Are you serious right now? Homelessness is absolute rock bottom. The only thing lower than homelessness is death.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:36 PM
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I disagree. He’s certainly not ugly but rather very average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:04 PM
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In terms of looks, he is not above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 07:31 PM
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There is research on voter political affiliation and obesity rates. The research shows that obesity rates are higher amongst people who vote Republican. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/202011/why-red-states-suffer-greater-obesity?amp https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4692249/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:28 PM
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I’m from a small rural Midwestern town where most of the people are unhealthy and overweight or obese conservative MAGA types. Yes, those men often have more children than the average, and yet they surely couldn’t run a mile and are in terrible shape. And the women are equally fat and unhealthy. So this isn’t the gotcha that you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:20 PM
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Most men still marry and have children, they are just doing so later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:30 PM
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Your comment has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:29 PM
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Relationships don’t always last. I’m still friends with most of my exes. We just grew in different directions. Now my soon-to-be ex-husband had an affair, which obviously isn’t my fault. I’ve been sick with a chronic gastrointestinal disorder for about a year and a half, and that wasn’t fun for him, so he bailed. I still intend to remain on friendly terms with him for the sake of our son since we will be co-parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:29 PM
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Huh?? My comments all have 9 or 10 upvotes. You might want to check your vision.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:59 PM
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I don’t think your views are unreasonable. It’s really just the hardcore MAGA types that I find to be obnoxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:15 PM
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Yeah, I should have explained in the first comment that these guys aren’t far-left. I don’t even know anyone in real life who is radically political.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:22 PM
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What are you talking about? Do you even have female family members? Men are not “simping” for their mothers, wives, and daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:05 PM
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Creative types are always an exception. But typically, wealthy people will vote Republican and often solely for financial reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:00 PM
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Exactly, they aren’t unique! That was my point in the first place. There are a lot of traditionally masculine men who aren’t conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:06 PM
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Lmao, okay dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:05 PM
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Most people aren’t radical activists, regardless of party affiliation or views.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:03 PM
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More than likely those guys vote Republican because they are extremely wealthy, and we all know that Republicans favor tax breaks for the wealthiest. That doesn’t necessarily mean that they hold conservative values on social issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:58 PM
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I agree with you about clubs but bars are usually a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:33 PM
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Yeah, I should clarify that when I say that these guys are liberal, they aren’t far-left, radical types. Like, they aren’t social justice warriors or whatever. They just vote Democrat and prefer egalitarian relationships. They also support women’s causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:41 PM
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Where are you getting the information that most of pro sports players are conservatives? As for your personal experiences with people you know, it just sounds like we’ve known very different types of athletic men. Maybe it’s due to different areas where we live.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:38 PM
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Exactly! I’m from a small rural Midwestern town where the vast majority of people are conservative. And most of those people are either overweight and obese. Now I live in the suburbs of a large city where many of the residents are liberals, and the percentage of men and women who are thin and fit is much, much higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:35 PM
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Anecdotes are relevant. And considering that a large chunk of guys in this sub openly admit that they have either zero friends or a very small social circle, it’s likely that they don’t even know enough people in real life to make judgments on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:40 PM
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Lmao You don’t know these guys, so you have no idea what you’re taking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:37 PM
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Listen buddy, a D1 college football player is going to be stronger and more athletic than the vast majority of men. You can cite sources all day long for all I care. I’m simply sharing my experiences, which indicate that some liberals are traditionally masculine in terms of physical prowess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:36 PM
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Again, this has not been my experience, nor has it been my observation of other men I’ve known. My ex-husband, for example, is a life-long Democrat who champions liberal social causes, and he was a collegiate football player. That’s about as traditionally masculine as you can get. Another ex of mine was a star wrestler, and he was also a liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:16 PM
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Most of the guys I’ve dated and been in relationships were current or former high school or collegiate athletes who were also liberal. This notion that only conservative men can have traditionally masculine physical features and capabilities is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:52 PM
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I think as long as you (universal “you,” not necessarily you specifically) sought out professional escorts rather than street prostitutes, you’d probably be quite safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:11 PM
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The majority of men have women in their lives whom they love enough to protect their rights and autonomy should there ever be a group of men come together and try to subjugate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:50 PM
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Well, that’s certainly an opinion. Many will disagree with you that those other jobs are more important than teaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:02 PM
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That definitely sounds like the best approach to initiating conversation! You sound like a great guy, and I hope something works out for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:03 PM
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Yeah, I never know what to say when talking to a new guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:39 PM
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You’ve got be joking. You don’t think that educating children is an important job?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:23 PM
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Statistics show that college-educated people earn more on average than people with a high school diploma or GED. So, if we are measuring success by earned income, then having a college degree is likely to make one more successful than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:08 PM
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I hate the process of dating, too, due to my social anxiety. It’s so nerve-wracking. In the past, I always dated guys who were part of my social circle. Now that I’m single again after many years of being married, I am trying the dating apps for the first time, and the thought of going on dates with strangers is so very stressful. So, I completely understand where you’re coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:52 PM
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Of course people are deciding whether or not they find a particular person attractive or not. But most are not evaluating prospective dates along some rigid 1-10 rating scale, and then determining whether that person is their “looksmatch.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:54 AM
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Things may end up working out that way, but most people don’t go into dating sorting potential dates by level of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 07:03 PM
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This is absolutely false. College-educated women are far more likely to remain married long-term than women with only a high school education. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/12/04/education-and-marriage/#:~:text=About%20half%20of%20first%20marriages,being%20married%20after%20two%20decades
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:26 PM
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It’s most likely that the woman in the relationship would be punished in that scenario. Sometimes it’s the woman’s own family who murders her for bringing shame upon them. This is referred to as an “honor killing.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:20 PM
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It’s much more likely that the woman in the relationship would be punished in that scenario. Sometimes it’s the woman’s own family who murders her for bringing shame upon them. This is referred to as an “honor killing.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:19 PM
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Of course. But red pillers tend to have very high rates of singleness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:10 PM
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I’m pretty sure that’s it’s primarily red-pilled/incel/manosphere dudes simping for random women. It makes sense because those guys are far more likely to be single than blue-pilled normies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:31 PM
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You do realize that the vast majority of women are not Only Fans creators, sugar babies, or involved in any other activities where they receive money from male clients or admirers, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:28 PM
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So many guys here fail to realize this. People in the real world are not going around assessing and rating the appearance of potential dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:23 PM
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About the homework issue, I can tell you that that’s certainly not the case for my son who is a freshman in high school. He sometimes has two hours of homework per night. He attends a public school in Ohio. Every parent I know says that their kids not only have homework but have more of it than we did when we were in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:22 PM
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Why are you trying to suggest that you know what women think and how they operate when you are not a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:42 PM
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It does seem like the male age skews fairly young here. I’m sure to them women in their 30s and up seem ancient. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:33 PM
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Wow, I’m not going to entertain this drivel for long. I’m going to go out in a limb and speculate that you’re not even a parent. And if you by some chance do you have a kid, you clearly aren’t staying home to raise the kid. So save condemnation and condescension. You have zero room to be pointing fingers at others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:27 PM
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Same here. And I laugh my ass every time dudes here think that most men don't want anything to do with us. They have no idea. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:59 PM
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You seem to be unaware that most mothers work. In fact, only 26% of American mothers are stay-at-home parents. Furthermore, in 45% of American marriages, the husband is neither the sole nor primary breadwinner. In those marriages, either the husband and wife earn roughly the same income or the wife is the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:40 PM
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You are really outing yourself as not having very many female friends or acquaintances, because lots of women enjoy history and are well-versed on historical matters and events.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:35 PM
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And we have our daily PPD dose of "Women are liars!" It's such a pathetic stance to claim that any data or personal anecdote that doesn't specifically conform to your preconceived beliefs is wrong or fake. It's also intellectually lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:27 PM
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My son had a fabulous time with his little buddies in an in-home daycare and then in preschool. He preferred that over being home stuck with me 24/7, all day, every single day. I also had flexibility in my career to work remotely often and was able to spend plenty of time with my son. Yes, not every single waking hour of the day, but not every family does—or even should—operate that way. Also, the nerve of you, a complete stranger, to insinuate that my son wasn’t raised properly. It takes a trem…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:01 PM
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So much wrong here. Sex is not a need. There are millions of adults worldwide who survive without having sex for years on end, and for some, even their entire lives. Might some of those people not be super happy about their situation? Quite possibly, but that doesn’t change the fact that sex for most is a strong want, not a need. And second, unless a woman is raped or somehow coerced against her will into having sex, she is most likely choosing to sleep with a guy because she desires sex, too. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:18 PM
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I've had good men in my life, too. I have a great relationship with my dad and my brother, and my teenaged son is just the kindest soul. I have mixed feelings about my soon-to-be ex-husband because he has been a phenomenal father and went above and beyond with sharing the household chores; I can't praise him enough in that regard. However, he ended up having an affair, so there's that. My other exes were all decent, and none of the others cheated or were abusive or anything. Truthfully, my only …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:17 AM
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On your second point, it's awful that men are not only not taken seriously when sexually assaulted but are sometimes even outright mocked for coming forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:08 AM
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Yikes. Then I certainly hope you're not one who is bitching about the low birth rates. Sounds like you don't like pregnant women and moms at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:58 AM
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Most women work full-time jobs, take a couple months of maternity leave (which is protected by law and often paid), and then go right back to work. Only 26% of mothers are stay-at-home parents (and 7% of dads are stay-at-home parents).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:57 AM
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I had a career while my son was little. He is a kind, witty, straight-A athlete with a lot of friends now that he's a teenager. Women can absolutely work and raise children with their husbands/partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:53 AM
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Trump and Vance are those right-wing nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:41 AM
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It's all about control, and men like him who are adamant that they know what's best for women infuriate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:37 AM
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I think there should be a move to recruit more teachers and make the profession more appealing to men. I’m absolutely all on board for that. I disagree that men are being shut out of the profession, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:30 AM
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I highly doubt that’s a major factor for most men considering employment options. It’s mostly that teachers don’t get paid worth shit, and teaching isn’t considered a high enough status job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:55 PM
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Men often don’t want to be teachers because the pay is quite low. If we increased wages for teachers, I bet that a lot more men would be interested in choosing teaching as their profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:41 PM
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Sure, we can remove the word “openly” and the example still stands as relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:55 PM
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Nobody is dictating anything. But when people do certain things that the majority of people think is unethical, they are not free from judgment from the public.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:24 PM
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Oh, give me a break. The guy is a predator and likely a rapist. Nobody is going to feel sorry for him for outing himself for violating girls and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:22 PM
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Seriously? Trump, arguably the most prominent/famous male figure in recent times, is openly sexist. Do you remember when he said, “You can do anything. You can grab them by the pussy”? He was saying that he can basically do anything to women he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:40 PM
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Society is only becoming more, not less, critical of relationships where the younger partner is barely out of high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:14 PM
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People can do whatever they want so long as it’s legal. But that doesn’t mean they won’t receive criticism for doing things the majority of people view as unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:47 PM
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Yes, and again, within the 29% of egalitarian relationships, that leaves 55% of marriages with the husband as the sole or primary breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:11 PM
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Whatever narrative you want to tell yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:10 PM
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I don’t personally have an issue with extreme age gaps so long as the younger partner isn’t super young, like under 22 or 23. A 45 year-old dating a 29 year-old is far different than a 36 year-old dating a 20 year-old. It’s the same age gap, but in the latter example, the younger partner has had barely any life experience as an adult, which makes the situation rife with possibilities of abuse and control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 08:39 PM
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Oh, yes, those women were just skipping through life, footloose and fancy-free, with no job and no income, waiting for Prince Charming to arrive. 😂🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:40 PM
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What do you think women “need” to continue cleaning their homes, cooking, and caring for their children while working full-time jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:38 PM
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It’s not even close to the norm, though, and some guys’ obsession with extreme age gaps in manosphere spaces is kind of ridiculous considering that the majority of men will never be in a relationship like that. It’s mostly just fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:37 PM
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😂😂Funny how you change your tune when presented with evidence to contradict your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:26 PM
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What value do you think men provide then? Because it sure seems like it's men, not women, complaining about not being able to get dates. Women are the ones primarily choosing not to date. It kinda looks like a whole lot of women don't really see much value in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:50 PM
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Attractive men actually benefit more from their good looks in the workplace than women do. Study suggests men benefit more from being attractive in the workplace than women (phys.org)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:39 PM
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Statistically speaking, those extreme age-gap relationships are a minority. Only something like 7-10% of all relationships have an age gap of 10 or more years. The aver age age gap is 2.3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:26 PM
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Men need goals and rewards in order to help clean their homes and care for their own children?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:22 PM
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You've never encountered a woman who enjoys sex and has a healthy libido? That's unfortunate for you, but most of do enjoy sex very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:20 PM
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You're not really getting it. Most middle-aged men are simply not desirable to much younger women. Statistics show that extreme age-gap relationships account for only a small percentage of overall relationships. They are not the norm whatsoever. So, what you're suggesting in your post isn't even a possibility for the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:18 PM
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There’s nothing to debunk. What I said was accurate. Here ya go: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ As you’ll see, in 29% of marriages, the husband and wife earn about the same, which means that there is no sole of primary breadwinner in those marriages. In another 16% of marriages, the wife is the breadwinner. That means that in a full 45% of marriages, the husband is neither the sole or primary breadw…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 07:39 PM
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Research shows that men lie more than women. “Results indicated that men lie more and are more successful lie-tellers than women.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8982912/ And another source that arrives at the same conclusion: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/finding-a-new-home/202301/men-are-more-selfishly-dishonest-than-women?amp
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:39 PM
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Can you link to where women in this sub are saying that? Because I’ve never seen that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:35 PM
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Wow. I haven’t been following the posts on this sub as frequently as I used to, but those comments are straight-up insane. And it always amuses me when guys who have zero dating and sex experience, and who barely ever interact with women, proclaim to be experts on those very things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:34 PM
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Perhaps, but you also don’t know what’s best for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:03 PM
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You skipped over the part where I said that they had established successful careers prior to becoming mothers. Many of these women were in their 30s when they had children. What the hell do you think they were doing for the 10-15 years prior? 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:02 PM
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I'm a divorced woman who is dating, and this is simply not true. There are a lot of divorced dads out there (especially after age 40), and most of them are looking to date women who are also divorced with children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 04:03 PM
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So, let me get this straight: If her husband left her for another woman, she should just remain single and lonely and not be able to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 04:02 PM
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"you'll be able to divorce rape him" Why do you automatically assume that her husband is the breadwinner? As of 2022, only 55% of married men are the sole or primary breadwinners of their families. And the figure decreases year-by-year.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:51 PM
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That's absolutely not true. I'm a mother and in quite a few mom groups on FB (as well as a divorce group for women), and a large number of SAHMs are well-educated and had successful careers prior to having children and deciding to stay home with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:46 PM
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This needs to be repeated here so often because so many of you guys seem oblivious to the fact that women not only work but earn good money now. Anyway, only 55% of men are the sole or primary breadwinner of their families. So in a huge chunk of marriages, the wife is earning as much, or more, money than her husband. Also, the divorce rate for Millenials is much lower than the average for all ages. For them, the divorce rate is only 25%. And this is likely because Millenial women are much more l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:37 PM
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What is a unicorn woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:03 AM
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I don’t think of it as a bitch move in the way that the women describe. It’s more like the guy writing the notes after being asked to do so comes across as disingenuous. Now, personally, I’m not a very romantic type of woman and don’t really want those kinds of gestures. My love language is more along the lines of words of affirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:29 PM
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If you’re talking about fucking an unconscious person, of course they are going to need consent beforehand. It’s not like there’s foreplay or something leading up to it. Honestly, the fact that you are questioning this behavior is very conserving.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:01 PM
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Shocking, even for this group. I can’t believe what I’m reading in these comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:29 PM
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The guys would need explicit verbal consent from the woman beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:28 PM
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No, not necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:00 PM
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I really don’t think men consider this at all. When having these discussions, it’s just not even on their radar. But as women, we are all too familiar with the potential dangers that come with dating brand new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:57 PM
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I mean, yeah, definitely most domestic violence and violent assaults. I’m not sure about rapes. These things do occur at the hands of strangers or very new acquaintances, though. I’ve been sexually assaulted twice in my life, and in both situations, the guy was a complete stranger to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:38 PM
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No, I trust my male relatives and friends because I’ve known them for quite some time and feel safe around them. In my view, the phrase “not all men but always a man” refers to men who are either complete strangers or very new acquaintances.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:10 PM
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No, not at all. My husband and I led very similar lifestyles. We were both partiers and both had had a number of relationships and some hookups prior to us getting together.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:57 PM
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You are absolutely not ready to even consider dating. There are some major issues you need to work out before you potentially sabotage yourself and subject some poor woman to this dysfunctional mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:44 PM
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The women Pete Davidson dated have far, far more money than he does, especially Kim Kardashian and Ariana Grande. And he isn’t very attractive at all, so it’s not his looks that are carrying him, either. It’s very much likely his personality and sense of humor. I know many of you guys here refuse to believe that personality matters a whole hell of a lot, but it absolutely does.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:23 PM
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I fully agree with everything you’ve said!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:20 PM
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Right, he only insulted half of the population instead of just one person. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:18 PM
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Yeah, I think OP would be getting less pushback if she had specified that her focus is on red-pill/manosphere guys, not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:49 PM
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This is spot-on. I don’t think I’ve ever thought of it that way, but this absolutely makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:42 PM
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Can you elaborate on your position here? There are indeed men who follow through with their claims and are indeed egalitarian partners. My ex-husband was an equally involved father and made sure to do his share of chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:39 PM
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This is a terrible analogy. Childfree people are not endangering their health.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:41 PM
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He’s using the most dehumanizing language possible about women, but somehow I’m the problem? Okay, buddy. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:08 PM
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And what if you were forced to be with a man? Or a woman who is 500 pounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:54 PM
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Gee, I wonder why someone with your mentality would struggle with dating. It's a complete mystery. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:52 PM
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So, women should be punished for not willingly donating their bodies to random men for sexual purposes?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:39 PM
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There it is: “Rewarding” Women’s bodies and time are not gifts to be handed out for good behavior, just as the previous user stated. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:49 PM
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Yeah, it’s one thing to go out drinking on a date with a guy you’ve known for some time. It’s an entirely different situation to go grab drinks with a guy from a dating app who is essentially a complete stranger. A bit of chatting for a few days prior to a date isn’t nearly enough to gauge if the guy has ulterior motives and is potentially dangerous. Adding alcohol into the mix is a good way for a man with ill intentions to prey on a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:47 PM
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That probably helps some, but I think his appeal is primarily his personality and sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:09 PM
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I don’t think Pete Davidson’s success with beautiful female celebrities has much to do with his looks or money. He seems to have a fun, exciting personality and is probably easygoing. It’s likely his charisma and sense of humor that women are drawn to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:37 PM
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Or, ya know, men could not rape, assault, and harass women. But sure, the more logical and ethical solution is to lock up all the women in their homes. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:42 AM
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I don’t think he’s necessarily average, but he’s also not on the level of attractiveness as other male celebrities, in my opinion. He’s basically a little above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:52 PM
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You are more than welcome to ignore posts and videos of women on social media complaining about bad men they’ve dated. There’s absolutely no need to intervene and control their dating choices, though. It’s none of your business. If social media riles you up so much, disengage and do something else with your time. And let’s be real: The real reason you wish to control women’s dating lives is because you want your own personal girlfriend/wife ordered or forced to be with you. You don’t directly sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:38 PM
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Wait, you merely kissed a few women and that’s it? Have you been in any actual long-term relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:45 PM
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The irony of you saying this while talking about removing women’s rights because you can’t get laid is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:44 PM
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Which is another reason that women should avoid red-pilled men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:29 PM
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What? I said that not everyone has glaring mental health issues that would indicate abusive behavior, meaning that I’m agreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:56 PM
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Not every abusive person has glaring mental health issues. Some do, some don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:50 PM
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Yeah, it’s the same thing with so many topics/issues discussed in this sub. It will never not be amusing to see guys who are chronically online with zero social lives claim to be experts on women, dating, and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:46 PM
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I’m so sorry you’re going through all of that. I certainly won’t deny your experiences or somehow turn it around on you. I hope that you are given custody as soon as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:58 PM
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This is a load of BS. The majority of men want sex very soon; not just fuckboys. Ask any woman who dates. You wouldn’t know this, because you presumably don’t date men. I have no issue with sleeping with someone early on, nor do I care about being called a hoe. I’m just pointing out that your assumption that only attractive player types want sex early on is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:22 PM
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Again, college-educated women have the longest-lasting marriages. This is a statistical fact. It’s irrelevant who files in those minority of marriages that do end.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:19 PM
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I’m not referring to history here. I’m talking about guys like you who fantasize about restricting women’s rights, much like they do in certain Middle Eastern countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:17 PM
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Interesting, because most men want sex on the first date, or at the very least, the second or third date. So basically, men have this fantasy where women remain pure and innocent their entire lives until they meet them, at which point, those women instantly become hoes—but only for them, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:59 PM
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Yeah, I wasn’t aware that there was this vast group of women conspiring against unattractive men. 😂 The truth is, most of us don’t even pay attention to men who aren’t our relatives, friends, or coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:51 PM
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I can’t imagine handwaving away something as atrocious as honor killings as no big deal. That’s…truly something. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:06 PM
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You are oblivious to the realities of domestic violence and how law enforcement often handles situations. Considering that DV is extremely high in families of law enforcement officers (cops statistically have higher rates of DV incidents in their own families than that of the general population), it’s well-known that cops often don’t handle DV cases well at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:00 PM
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This shit sometimes happen in Western countries, too. Look no further than religious fundamentalist communities in the US. Lori Alexander, who goes by the name The Transformed Wife, on social media, is a blogger/influencer with almost 50K followers on IG alone. Lori encourages women to remain in their marriages, even if they are so toxic and harmful that the women are suffering from abuse. She tells parents and family members of women who are suffering from violence/abuse at the hands of their h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 09:53 PM
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From what I’ve observed, red pillers used to be primarily about “spinning plates,” or having lots of casual sex with different partners. In the last couple years, though, there seems to have been a shift in red-pill thinking and aims. Now, it seems as though red pillers are all about adopting tradcon beliefs and values. Many of these guys talk about wanting a traditional marriage with a submissive wife who stays home and cares for the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:00 PM
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Of course evil exists in the world. Your future daughter potentially having consensual sex is not evidence of evil whatsoever. You are feigning concern for her safety, when in reality, you just can’t stand the thought of her having her own life and making her own choices. Furthermore, you can’t keep an adult child locked up and isolated because you fear for their safety. It just doesn’t work that way. If that were the case, people would never leave their homes and remain with their parents forev…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:37 PM
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I have just never seen comments like that in any forums. I believe you, I just have never seen anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:28 PM
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Me too!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:26 PM
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I have never seen that sentiment expressed anywhere. I’m sure there’s someone, somewhere, who holds that view, but it’s not one that I’ve ever even seen once so it must be incredibly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:54 PM
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Lmao This site is anonymous. And even if it wasn’t, you don’t know anyone hear in real life. You just make up narratives about people to suit your current worldview. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:51 PM
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You aren’t concerned about a future daughter’s safety. You just don’t want her to live her own life without your claws latched into everything she does. Fortunately, adults don’t have to do what their parents command, which is a very good thing for those raised in toxic homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:50 PM
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And she very well may just leave the home at 18 with a mentality like that. It would certainly be in her best interest to do so. You can't control adults after all, much to your dismay I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:51 PM
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I'm the nicest incel of all!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:48 PM
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Young women are killing it in higher education and the workforce. And unless you live under a rock, you already know that, but you'd rather pretend to be oblivious for God knows what reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:47 PM
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I mean, I have seen some truly outrageous comments in this very sub from red-pillers, so while it might not be a majority opinion, there are some who hold views like the one expressed in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:41 PM
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Definitely hilarious. The middle-aged dude working in accounting is very, very unlikely to have gorgeous 20 year olds lined up to date him. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:18 PM
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I think another reason those young women date DiCaprio is that it’s guaranteed to give them lots of publicity which likely helps their modeling (or acting) careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:14 PM
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Yeah, I agree. He’s a public figure more so than a celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:12 PM
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Elon Musk
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:39 PM
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That’s not how the works works. That’s how YOU think, and it’s not a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:31 PM
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Jeff Bezos is dating a woman around the same age as him—she’s on her mid-fifties. So, no, not every man goes after super young women. The media sensationalizes extreme age-gap relationships that celebrities and wealthy people sometimes have, but you don’t hear as much about all of the other famous people who are dating similarly-aged women because it’s not tabloid/paparazzi-worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:28 PM
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For sure, and that’s also why you see more and more of these “pilled” guys advocating for rolling back women’s rights. They romanticize a bygone era when more men were partnered because women needed financial provision.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:11 PM
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The statistics on earnings show that people with college degrees make more than those with only a high school diploma or less. So while there are certainly outliers, a college degree is still useful for many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:21 PM
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I’m a woman in my forties and have no shortage of men interested in me—and for actual relationships, not just sex. This is a false narrative. Many men do not want to date someone much younger women. That might not be the case for you, but not all men think like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 07:05 PM
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It does seem like TRP shifted from "spinning plates" to advocating for the tradcon life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:04 PM
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The divorce rates for marriages where the wife is the breadwinner have decreased significantly. "Sociologists found that couples married in the 60s and 70s were 70% more likely to get divorced if the wife was the breadwinner. It looks like society is starting to change because the same research found in couples married in the 90s has only a 4% higher divorce rate if the women earned more." Are marriages of female breadwinners likely to end in divorce? | khou.com
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:57 PM
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Sounds like you're one who idealizes regressive Middle Eastern countries. The fewer the rights for women, the better. Just say it with your chest, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:40 PM
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College-educated women are the most likely to be married in the first place *and* to remain married long-term. The most educated women are the most likely to be married (brookings.edu) The link between a college education and a lasting marriage | Pew Research Center Divorce Rate by Education Level: Divorce Is Least Common Among People With Which Of The Following Levels Of Education? - The Center For Divorce Education (divorce-education.com)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:35 PM
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As someone who was a young adult during the time period you mentioned, I completely agree with your assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:32 PM
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And 10% is still a relatively small percentage of overall relationships. Extreme age-gap relationships are simply not that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:25 PM
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I've dated several guys who were younger than me, but only by a few years. I've never found the notion of dating much older men appealing, even when I was a lot younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:23 PM
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I'm in my mid-forties and on the dating apps after recently divorcing. Most of the men on the apps who are around my age are also divorcees who already have children and don't want more. I think guys here greatly overestimate the number of older men who want to start families at their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:18 PM
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First off, many women choose to continue their careers, even if they could feasibly stay home. Having financial independence is extremely important, considering that anything could go wrong in a marriage. Plus, lots of women find joy and purpose in their careers. And secondly, a good chunk of stay-at-home moms are low-income. I’m in a number of mom groups on FB, and most of the stay-at-home moms discuss how they don’t work because they can’t afford childcare. They certainly are living in the lap…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:07 PM
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The stats are problematic to you because they don’t conform to your preconceived worldview. It’s just like how conspiracy theorists will cling to obviously false beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:03 PM
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Yikes, dude. Victim blaming is not a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:55 PM
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You keep repeating this over and over again, and yet several people here have provided statistics to show that most women are both working and doing a significant share of the household cores and childcare. So your claim is just flat-out disproven by the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:39 AM
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How many stay-at-home moms do you personally know well enough to know what happens in their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:33 AM
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Either that or he's like 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:32 AM
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What a convenient narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:29 AM
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Statistics show that you are wrong. Most women work. Even for women who are mothers, only 26% are stay-at-home moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:23 AM
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When I was assaulted while jogging on a bike path, I was wearing mid-thigh-length shorts and my boyfriend’s old baggy T-shirt. I was also sweating profusely from nearing the end of a 5-mile jog on a blazing hot July afternoon. Bad men don’t rape because of clothing. That myth needs to die out already. For further evidence of this, just look at the major rape epidemic in places like India and Egypt. Women there are usually covered head-to-toe, yet rape happens on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:45 PM
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There have been virgins who went on to commit violent crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:40 PM
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I’m sorry, what? So, when I was attacked by a man who was a stranger to me while jogging on a bike path years ago, that was MY fault and not the guy’s fault for attacking, assaulting, and attempting to rape??? Men who harm and sexual assault women are always the one’s at fault. Period. I can’t believe this needs to be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:38 PM
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It’s about safety. Our male loved ones are worried about safety—it’s nothing more, nothing less.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:36 PM
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If you want people to take you seriously at all, you’ll need to not make up shit. I don’t know what else to tell you. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:04 PM
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Yeah, the main complaint I see from women is that too many guys lie about wanting a serious relationship when they just want to get laid. But I don’t see women saying that all women are perfect angels and free of bad behaviors. We know that there are plenty of women who do shitty things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:07 PM
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It’s not so simple as “bye…I’m out of this relationship” when you have children and your entire life is intertwined with your partner. Women often stay in less than ideal relationships/marriages because they desperately want to make it work. I’m sure some men do the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:22 PM
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I was happy to be married and have my son. However, Im not going to be submissive to any man. That’s outdated BS. Im an adult and don’t want my husband to act as a parental figure to me. Egalitarian relationships are much healthier and far less toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:28 PM
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I’m so grateful that when I was attacked while jogging on a bike path in 2006, a passerby stopped to pull by my attacker off of me and then lend me his phone afterward to call 911. If it hadn’t been for that man, I would have been raped and possibly killed. (My attacker was apprehended and later served 3.5 years in prison. With that said, I don’t believe that any man has an obligation to physically assist a woman who is being assaulted or raped. I do think it’s only common decency for any person…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:25 PM
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What’s selfish is cheating. And if he cheats and stays in the marriage, the kids grow up in a toxic environment where the parents don’t get along and the wife is resentful. It’s best to just exit the marriage if the man isn’t satisfied with his sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:01 PM
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I'm not really sure what learning game actually means, but if it's cheesy pickup lines or putting on a fake front, then that should be avoided. But many of the guys in this sub would have exponentially more chances of success if they didn't rely exclusively on the dating apps and spent much more time out socializing. A lot of the issues here come down to lack of socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:13 AM
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The times I was sexually assaulted occurred at the hands of men who were strangers, not former partners. And if you’re going to choose not to believe me and other women, there is nothing else to add to this conversation. Don’t expect pity about not being to get laid when you don’t have an ounce of compassion and empathy for survivors of rape/sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:14 PM
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Talk to the women you know in real life and see how many have been raped or sexually assaulted. I guarantee you that more of them than you realize have been, sadly. I have been the victim of sexual assault twice in my life. Most of my friends have experienced at least one incident of sexual assault during their lifetime. To deny our lived experiences is really fucking shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:49 PM
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Many single mothers are low-income and aren’t educated nor do they have good careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:11 PM
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Umm, that’s not at all true. I’m a feminist and am well aware that women make mistakes because we are human. I am also well aware that some women are terrible people, just like some men are terrible. I’m sorry you were sexually assaulted. I have been the victim of rape and sexual assault, too, and I will never ever excuse the behavior of predators who violate and harm others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:07 PM
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She specifically stated that she thinks only a small percentage of men behave that way. It’s just that the men who hold those views and attitudes tend to congregate in disproportionate numbers in forums like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:00 PM
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The data shows that only a small percentage of women have a higher number of sex partners. There is no “hoe epidemic.” That is something the manosphere wants to believe, but it’s simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:36 PM
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Duty sex occurs in relationships that are transactional in nature. It has nothing to do with a woman's past partners (or lack thereof) and everything to do with her having sex not out of genuine desire but rather to keep her husband happy so that he continues to provide for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:31 PM
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You speaketh the truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:26 PM
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You want it to fit your narrative, but it doesn’t. You know nothing about these men aside from what I’ve told you. Your automatic assumption is that all athletes are red-pilled, which is frankly absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:37 PM
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Many high-earning men want to partner with women who are well-educated and have good careers, too. This notion that the majority of men want tradwives is simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:31 PM
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Source for your 80% claim? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:44 PM
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People aren’t telling you and guys who think like you that sex isn’t a fundamental aspect of romantic relationships. What they are trying to explain is that sex is only one aspect of a relationship. To make a long-term relationship, you have to actually get along with your partner and enjoy spending time with them. You have to have shared values and at least some shared interests. You have to be able to work together to build the kind of life you want. Sex only accounts for a small percentage of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:42 PM
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More rectally-sourced red pill statistics 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:23 PM
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You described the concept of romantic chemistry perfectly!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:18 PM
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The vast, vast majority of women loathe Andrew Tate. He found a small number of very damaged women to use and abuse. Most women would rather off themselves than be anywhere near his general vicinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:50 PM
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You are absolute a hypocrite and people see through the nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:48 PM
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There is a third option, which most women choose: To be married or coupled and have an egalitarian relationship dynamic where both partners work, pay the bills, and contribute to the household chores and childcare. The majority of couples have an egalitarian relationship these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:44 PM
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No, I don’t think so. Because I don’t believe that men are naturally rapists. Some men will rape, but they don’t represent the majority of men. It’s also important to note that rape happens often in places like India and Egypt where women have far less rights than women in the West have. So, I think it comes down to both individual men’s inclination to rape and cultural attitudes toward women in any given society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:37 PM
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I mean, I would never be a housewife/stay-at-home mom because of the risks involved. Many women refuse to take that sort of risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:56 PM
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The only way that women could 100% completely avoid possibly ending up in a toxic relationship is to not date at all. You can vet for months or even years, but people sometimes change and show their true colors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:55 PM
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You don’t know anything about the men I dated aside from the act that they were athletes. My ex-husband, the college football player, was a liberal feminist who preferred egalitarian relationships. My other exes also didn’t exhibit any red-pill behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:52 PM
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Where are all of these women who are admitting that they want men with sociopathic traits? Receipts, please? I’m not seeing that with any sort of regular frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:39 PM
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Cool, your wife of girlfriend can display that she is desirable by cheating on you. I’m sure that you’d be just as understanding as you’d expect to her be, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:34 PM
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He should leave the marriage and divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:30 PM
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I completely agree with your assessment of the motives behind rape much of the time, and the research indicates that it is indeed often about power and control. That doesn’t make rape any more excusable than if it was just about desire. There is literally no circumstance where rape is justifiable or acceptable. None.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:39 PM
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You greatly underestimate how difficult it is for a woman to reenter the job market after being out of work for many years. And they will also likely start out in an entry-level position that pays very little.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:35 PM
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Many men do not show signs of abuse or concerning behavior until later into a relationship. Abusers are often very good at concealing their true motives for quite some time. Regardless, victim blaming is not a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:34 PM
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You are because you made assumptions about my dating life and history with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:29 PM
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Did you read the post? The whole premise of it is that it’s in men’s human nature to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:28 PM
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Lots of controlling and/or abusive men are neither good-looking nor financially well-off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:50 PM
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Yeah, I don’t know why some of the guys here in this sub seem to think that all men want or endorse traditional relationship dynamics. My father also raised me to focus on my education and career and not become financially dependent on a man. And none of my long-term boyfriends, as well as my ex-husband, were interested in having a traditional relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:47 PM
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Here’s the thing: Most couples don’t have much in the way of assets, and this is particularly true of couples who divorce earlier in life. It just seems that every time a discussion on this topic occurs, the default assumption from red pillers is that the majority of people are swimming in money. But that’s just not true for average Americans. Most women aren’t going to walk away from a divorce financially set for years to come. I’m in a couple of divorce support groups for women, and most of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:27 PM
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Are you still in grade school, by any chance? You seem to be very young and a bit oblivious to things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:19 PM
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No, using nature as an excuse to rape women is what’s depressing and horrifying. Men are not wild animals; they are human, and they are accountable for the choices they make.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:38 PM
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I’m not complaining about all men just because my marriage fell apart. My husband was mostly a great husband and father, even though things didn’t work out in the end. I have actually had positive experiences with dating in the past, too, and speak fondly of my exes. I’m even friends with most of my exes on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:36 PM
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Yes, I said that in 45% of marriages, the husband is not the breadwinner. As you pointed out, in 55% of marriages, the husband is the main (though not necessarily sole) provider. My point is that nearly half of marriages is a very significant number. Keep in mind that out of the 55% of marriages where the husband is the breadwinner, about half of the wives work but don’t make as much money as their husbands. So, again, tradwives are not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:16 PM
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Oh, I didn’t realize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:11 PM
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You do realize that a couple can divorce for reasons other than the man being misogynistic, right? A man can even end up doing something morally wrong while not hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:09 PM
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This comment thread is depressing and horrifying. What a horribly misandrist take. Dudes like you will say shit like this and then whine and complain about women choosing the bear over a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:46 PM
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I’m inclined to agree that the percentage of men who would rape is higher than what criminal statistics indicate, considering that rape is the most underreported crime (and even when reported, the conviction rate is low). I definitely don’t think it’s the majority of men, but it’s almost certainly higher than many would think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:40 PM
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I read through posts and comment where I want to contribute to the discussion at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:21 PM
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The tradwife movement doesn't reflect trends that are actually happening offline. The majority of women work, including married women, and the stats back this up. Only 26% of mothers are stay-at-home parents. Dads make up 18% of stay-at-home parents in the US | Pew Research Center And in nearly half of marriages (45%), the husband is not the breadwinner. In those marriages, either the husband and wife earn about the same income or the wife is the breadwinner. Husbands and Wives Earn Similar Wage…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:12 PM
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Elon Musk is asexual??!! Sure, that would totally explain why he has fathered a bunch of kids with different women. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:50 PM
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DINK couples make up a significant percentage of the population. '“This idea and household configuration of dual-income partners living alone without children is on the rise,” according to Misty L. Heggeness, an associate research scientist at the University of Kansas’ Institute for Policy and Social Research. “In 2022, it was around 43% of households, and that’s about a 7% increase from a decade previously.”' What DINK 'dual income, no kids' trend means for your money (cnbc.com)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:09 PM
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Why are you concerned with how random single women are conducting their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:42 PM
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The guys I dated were simply not misogynistic dorks who lacked respect for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:41 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:39 PM
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I agree. I’ve always made sure to maintain my appearance, even after being in a relationship for many years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:39 PM
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It’s not that women are chasing after a small number of men. It’s that they prefer being single and don’t want to date at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:16 PM
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Athletic men aren’t necessarily red-pill types. The guys I’ve dated were anything but red pilled. They were normies who would have laughed at all of the manosphere nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:15 PM
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Actually athletic. My ex-husband played college football and my first boyfriend was a wrestler who placed at state in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:12 PM
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I just did some researching on homeless shelters in my area. For context, I live in a large Midwestern city. There are separate men's and women's shelters here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:20 PM
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Often the athletic guy is also attractive and sociable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:32 AM
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I have always dated men who were strong and athletic. Lots of women are attracted to men who are athletic. I've also played coed sports, including volleyball and kickball, and I have definitely known couples who met through their sporting leagues. It's definitely a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:31 AM
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Women don't need a man to survive on their own. If they can't afford to live on their own, then can live with female roommates, which a lot of women do. Plenty of single women do just fine surviving on their own income alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:25 AM
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I don’t think most relationships are transactional in nature. Some are, sure, but the majority these days aren’t. With women working and earning their own incomes, most relationships have become egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:38 PM
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Because it doesn’t seem like you were socialized around girls when you were growing up. Pretty much everyone who attended school with girls knows that some of them can be awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:15 PM
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But it’s completely untrue that most women require some sort of compensation to have sex. Like, that’s just blatantly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:57 PM
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Were you homeschooled, by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:01 PM
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Yeah, this post reads as though OP had a very sheltered childhood with little to no interactions with girls and women. I wonder if he was homeschooled, because I seriously don't understand how someone makes it all the way through grade school and high school not observing girls in his classes behaving terribly. Or even just seeing women out in public spaces sometimes acting rude or aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:00 PM
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Yeah, this post reads as though OP had a very sheltered childhood with little to no interactions with girls and women. I wonder if he was homeschooled, because I seriously don't understand how someone makes it all the way through grade school and high school not observing girls in his classes behaving terribly. Or even just seeing women out in public spaces sometimes acting rude or aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:00 PM
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This is sold advice right here. That act some guys put on where they are trying way too hard to be cocky is very cringeworthy and annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:46 PM
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Guys with high body counts are typically party types who spend a lot of time hanging out in mixed-gender groups at parties and bars or other social events. Personality goes a long way in these situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:41 PM
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Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:15 PM
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