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Question For WomenZodiacBrave98/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:08 AM
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Purge Week!ZodiacBrave98/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:09 PM
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Women bring a lot. What in particular depends on the individual. Gender roles are abolished so everything is a la carte. It is up to you to demand what you want. No one is going to deliver something you don't demand, even if you want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:58 PM
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Two hands on the wheel, at all times. Better safe than sorry!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:48 PM
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Agreed. That's why you build a fortress for you and yours and put your nice things there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 06:09 PM
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I don’t personally think gendered politics is a reaction to anything. I think it’s a grift and the men pushing gender politics ideas are grifters. Grifters are all that's left. Most good sources have been deplatformed. I think redpill has great aspects to it. But I don’t see how the things a lot red pill content creators focus on actually benefit men in dating. If anything I think it just creates animosity. Which is why I asked my question. Not sure if you mean there's no value because it doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:55 PM
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If your girl don't look like this she's not a keeper
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:32 PM
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Well the dating landscape has changed. 3rd wave feminism wasn't a thing when 'the Game' was big. rightly or not the things you don't like in gender politics is a reaction to that change.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:28 PM
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Plenty of norms are good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:25 PM
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Women are like that with their friends, they are like mini-boyfriends from guys perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 03:15 PM
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You merely adopted the red pill. Kids today are born in it, molded by it. The first time they have Blue Pill they are already a man, and by then it is merely cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 03:09 PM
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I feel you are overselling the 'Good option's lameness and underselling the 'bad option's risk and consequences. Your bad is typical 16 year old behavior even for 'good'. You left out the drugs and gang fighting and pressure on the girl to go beyond safe sex, possibly pimp-like behaviors. Actual legal consequences basically when caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 05:33 PM
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Who would steal 30 bagged lunches?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 08:43 PM
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Anyone that lives in an urban area and hates whats become of their city has Democrats to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 08:41 PM
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Then I know they are fans of Katawa Shoujo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 08:15 PM
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I've been huffing paint all day, i'm Mad Maxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:56 PM
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It's not a lie if you believe it. All is fair in love and war. Take whatever aphorism you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:51 PM
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The femcels are famous for forbidding men from coming into their forums and seeking meetups/dates. At least on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:00 PM
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If you are keen to pay then contribute to a charity. I vote no to gov help. Humanitarian concerns can get sorted on a case by case basis. Gov can facilitate relocating the child to foster parents. Direct monetary payments is too problem inducing. Offering blanket support just increases the problem. It does not solve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:45 PM
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False dichotomy. Let the mother pay, or no one pay. But if the tax payer decides to intervene instead that's on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:19 PM
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I've always had a passion for frozen yogurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:06 PM
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I can't wait to read about it in the paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:36 PM
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I believe you. It's just the post fits the format so cleanly it reads like it should end that way. Your brother could also just have wanted a nice excuse to not work on someone else's car for free on their day off, though I would have preferred instead if the Undertaker threw Mankind off hell in a cell through the announcers table.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:27 PM
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That grandma? Albert Einstein.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 05:34 PM
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I mean that's what all the blackpillers say, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 05:31 PM
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Women have invented the question "So when are you going to ask me out?" for situations like this. figure out which is better in your mind : let the situation go nowhere, or you broach the topic yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:11 PM
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It belongs in a museum
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 01:35 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LQJvFOd03E
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 06:43 PM
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I saw it on TV it must be true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 06:23 PM
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Don't forget to shower and comb your hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 05:28 PM
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These are the Days of our Lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 05:27 PM
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Russia blew the whistle to the U.N. on a U.S. scheme to explode a 'dirty bomb' in Ukraine as a false flag operation so they could intervene in the war directly. World War 3 inches closer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:55 PM
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I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:50 PM
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Historically you had poor houses, charity via church and other social groups. Sometimes though people just have bad luck and it sucks. I won't claim that charity alone with no gov help is the better solution. But when you take the gov pension options it implies you depend on population ratios, which is a risky dependency. that's a tradeoff that should be consciously chosen, not hidden among a basket of unintended consequences. Edited a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:58 PM
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monthly government payment (I have no idea what's the word in english) Pension. Stipend. Welfare. They all mean about the same. How do old people support themselves? Today same as what you said, combination of government help, family assistance, and their own savings/investments. How you do support them without a gov pension? Same as above minus the pension. People would have needed to plan ahead of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:48 PM
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You should still weight them and scale to 1! but all in good fun, have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:39 PM
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Are you saying the kind of socialization that men need to attract women is what they learn in kindergarten? It feels like hyperbole, I just don't believe it. I would accept high school or abouts. There are entire genres for coming of age that are beyond sharing and knowing the best flavor of glue. Thank you for the entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:38 PM
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That makes sense as a written statement. Your numbered scale just irks me. It's not an accurate presentation of the words.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:28 PM
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How can desperation be cured? If you're desperate for something, you'll always be desperate for it. That feeling doesn't go away when you have it. I take it we'll disagree. I would presume having the thing cures the desperation, like christmas morning cures kid's ache for toys. And if someone wants a mentor, they're free to it. But I'd leave a guy if I found out he ever used one. All men should be left adrift to sink or swim. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:13 PM
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Life in general needs young people to persist. But that's an aside. The only part of the system that requires the correct proportion of young to old is social security style safety nets. That's much closer to the socialist side of mixed economy than the capitalist. The children OR ELSE stuff is a consequence of the social order. not really part of the economics of trade, jobs, class warfare topics. Blame your gov/voters. Just my take on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:10 PM
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You missed the Second Age of Middle Earth. Prostitutes turned wives offering opinions. A literal pedophile blue pill mod. This age, like all later ages, has left magic behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:03 PM
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I don't think I agree with any of that. In theory a desperate man who is put into a relationship has been cured. Your second point seems to be 'undesirables stay in your lane'. I think they would prefer to follow a mentor and try to break out. You are of course entitled to your own views.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:58 PM
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Earth does not have infinite resources. Capitalism is not based on population growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:52 PM
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Anyone who says either is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:48 PM
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When people say the blue pill is a lie fed to them by society your post is what they mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:42 PM
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You don't want your partner to take you from 0.5 to 1... You already should be whole. Your partner will simply make your 1 really big, colorful, and shiny. You seem to be making a scale or probability argument. That's not how 1 works. A really big shiny 1 is off the scale, in which case : normalize and compute again. Your 'whole' becomes .8 or something but not 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:36 PM
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Godfather is mid
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:32 PM
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You need a baseline of 'okayness'. Like don't be dragging people into your mess. But : if loneliness is your problem it's not a mystery that a partner unlocks a source of happiness. Similar to the 'money can't buy happiness' saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:28 PM
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Prenup works for prior assets (minus court chicanery). Income during marriage is default shared. I mean we need income contributions explicitly payed in, not automatic sharing as we have now. A more businesslike marriage would combine nothing unless explicitly given to the corp. You could have the declared combined assets equal only a single dollar, even with millionaire participants.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:55 PM
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Go sell crazy elsewhere. I'm all stocked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:04 PM
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You usually post sense to me so I'm surprised at this take. Stating the talking point of your dissent doesn't negate their point. I'm not aware of a hard stat but they can in fact get thrown out. The reasons move like goalposts it seems but always in favor of women. As long as the courts aren't unfairly biased so be it. Let the blame fall where it lies. Though I actually don't believe fault-divorce is the solution some others might. I do not feel a penalty needs to be applied for a relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:59 PM
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22 is in no way a pedophile's target demographic, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:47 PM
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Takes scissors to make scissors.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 04:06 PM
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Gaston isn't evil. Just anti-furry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:15 PM
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When in doubt pressure cooker. Or slow stew.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:55 PM
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There is/was a longtime bluepill poster that cast apersions on men for not adhering to the US officers code regarding women. It's laughable but these people are out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:35 PM
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If she got a regular dog for that it'd be less weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:25 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female\_expendability The wikipedia entry for women's expendability is a dead link so...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:12 PM
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'Not wanting it' is not the question. The question was, assuming you did want it, 'how easy to get' is it. Like if once in a blue moon a women had a personality transplant she can get it. Let's change the question. Which gender can open jars easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:05 PM
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The Forever War
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:00 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factual_relativism Likely more complicated than what I wrote. I think I get the main point of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:57 PM
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Society, not women. Men get blame too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:45 PM
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Fax
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:43 PM
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More actors than a broadway show.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:40 PM
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The Internet is a Hate Machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:36 PM
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Too P2W for my tastes. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:33 PM
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Nothing can be said about Thing A without relating it to another Thing B. There are no standalone statements, or facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:29 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/2bhini/bald\_guys\_are\_hot/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:41 PM
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The only worthwhile one was FilthyFrank. So many lessons, so many life hacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:27 PM
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Duluth model promotes arresting men who are vicitims of DV. Corporate affirmative action promote/hire women over men. That whole #MeToo moment screwed with a bunch of nameless innocent men. People need to work to eat. The relationship effect is real but fairly low on the totem pole. Just go google old TurdFlinging Monkey videos for fucked up feminist stories in the news. Or Sargon, or Sandman of all people. Also communism is evil and wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:34 PM
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Uh oh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 02:17 PM
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I think both are good, and which you push depends on your gender. Women want men to understand the Swamp metaphor, men want women to see the Breathe version. Maybe a good blend is Seawater for women, dessert for men. Sea water is drinkable, technically, but you still die (alone). That doesn't fix the real issue : the issue is still which version you want to push reveals your thought process. Both are valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:18 PM
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The variation of the metaphor was men in a desert, women in a swamp. Look for potable water. women have dirty swamp water (sex). Both want clean water (love). Men got neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:16 PM
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I also think the 'gameplan' from women as a group has changed. It used to be accepted canon that a woman would screw about in her 20's, like the males, and settle with a more 'beta' guy. Sure she preferred the total package but it wasn't demanded. Today that compromise is not so common, obviously so, hence they have to change their advice to men. Their advice produced men that women WOULD snatch up later. Their advice is now accurate to men that women will be happy to settle with, just that it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:55 PM
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I don't know of any group/philosophy that ever tried to help bottom 20%/incel men with anything other than advising to take whatever scraps you can and like it. Red Pill/PUA was to help the middle tier man to understand the system so he can use it more effectively. PUA got the timid to finally shoot their shots and realize they could get something. Some RedPill brand people now try to sell the lessons as something any man can use. That's not what it is though. "RP for sure doesn't help 80% of me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:46 PM
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12 oz curls. Repeat until I pass out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:52 PM
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Most men are simps and cucks that can't cartel like women. Nothing will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:53 PM
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She had to make sure she had a firm grip on the new branch before fully letting go of the old. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:37 PM
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If it can spread AIDS it counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:33 PM
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Factor 1 : is she fat? Factor 2 : is she crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:29 PM
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I think that is entirely the point. Getting strangers on the internet to dial that number is comedy gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:18 PM
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Kurt Russel in Guardians of the Galaxy 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:59 PM
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Literally survivors bias. Everyone is the result of those that chose settling down. Those that lived fast died young aren't around to cast their vote on which is best.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:31 PM
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Do you learn anything in school about things outside your borders? Sadly no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:49 PM
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To me it does not sound like you are describing Red Pillers. There are lots of 'Alt' movements that touch on these subjects. Red Pill is about giving women what they want so that they choose you. No force required. A muslim community that polices their women more restrictive than the law allows is not Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:12 PM
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You cannot just jump to a solution based on your evaluation of someone's value judgements. Cognitive dissonance is a thing. You can point out where someone's stance might lead them but they can always reject the path. People often have competing values. Even then I would say Red Pill is not leading where you claim. More black pill if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:07 PM
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'Red Pill' does not lead where you claim. Red Pill bills itself as a way of giving women what they want, not forcing them. Hypergamy can be hacked, it says, not chained. Your claim is more Black pill adjacent. There is no alt 'mainstream' view that wants what you claim. Even racist alt righters want women to keep their rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:00 PM
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Get thee to a nunnery
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:02 PM
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You either hold onto that coal and let it burn you. Or you can throw it away. Either way it doesn't affect the people you resent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:33 PM
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Please don't bring back the DogPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:29 PM
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Just like a real Nice Guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:37 PM
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32 out of 36.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:17 PM
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That argument makes sense. Thank you for converting me. Where do we overturn these cases?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:31 PM
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I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:29 PM
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14th amendment isn't under attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:10 PM
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No politics will ever be implemented with total consistency aside from anarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:04 PM
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Born babies have CPS. You can argue more should be done but there is a framework in place. Parent's are responsible for rendering care. The state provides a check against absolute abandoning that duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:03 PM
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Seems non sequitur to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:57 PM
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It's not. I didn't say it always was necessarily. Could be bad luck. Could be a crackwhore. The kid still suffers. Single parenting should not be celebrated or encouraged but if possible not denigrated. Some situations are unavoidable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:36 PM
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It's not a question of fault. Statistics on this don't care who's fault it is. Whether the dude left or the girl kicked him to the curb the kid still suffers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:27 PM
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The Young Turks, and friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:41 PM
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There are some pretty terrible single moms out there. And statistically it's an economic death sentence to your child. Any further deductions are case by case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:45 PM
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Dates does not a hoe make. Feels like a mott-bailey situation, perhaps accidental.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:24 PM
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Set aside outsiders asking the question. Ask yourself "did I do everything I was supposed to?" If you do everything you can to influence the result and it goes bad then the fault is not yours. Just bad luck. Nothing more to beat yourself up for than if a coin lands on heads or tails. You can be disappointed you didn't get what you wanted. Just know the fault isn't yours and try not to take it personally. Now, if you failed a job interview after telling the Boss he's a dumbass then yes the blame …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:43 PM
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Almost all men are stronger than almost all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:37 PM
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Was called a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:09 PM
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The man who is fully aware of this but is still content and happy being forced to push rocks, that’s a man I want as my friend. You are describing a slave happy being a slave. I do not believe you meant this when you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:21 PM
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You work within it by finding a task where the grind feels content. Not by adhering to the arbitrary grind set out by work, your social net, or hypergamy. Imagine a thousand Sisyphus's all on different tasks. An artist, a card shark, a CEO. Not one thousand rock pushers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:42 PM
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"Large"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:32 PM
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Pointy elbows. Knobby knees. 3 or 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:00 PM
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Believe whatever you like. Neither of us know him personally. There are plenty of times in life where doing everything right can still lead to failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:56 PM
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That user has one of the all time most complete posts describing their efforts, doing everything right for no reward (relationshipwise). Your response to them in light of that is completely laughable, though it is obvious you don't the story so we'll forgive that. Still the text of your response is just so ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:33 PM
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Morning coffee is not quite the right brand of bean that I prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:45 PM
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The Most Dangerous Game of All.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:53 PM
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Many 'great' careers aren't worth the hassle. Good friends are hard to find, and once you have a few there are diminishing returns for adding more. Hobbies are personal, and many are done alone to your own satisfaction (think musician but not a performer). Outside of romantic relationships life is pretty cheap. Not sure precisely what Good Career means to you but if it just means money maybe you don't need one. If you seek meaning through work maybe look elsewhere with the time skipped by ditchi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:19 PM
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It's true but often men are shoddy gatekeepers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:14 PM
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Emergency Supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:08 PM
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Perhaps I should say it's when it is most valued. But yes lower testosterone has an effect. A tryst with Swedish twins sounds more fun in your 20's when you can stay up all night without the lack of sleep ruining your whole week.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:38 PM
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Even with the moving goalpost, the dichotomy presented is 'No sex during the best time to have it' versus 'pizza sex' aka decent but not great. Option B please. Option A doesn't even guarantee good sex/relationship : it just says societal benefit which I take to mean the 'Halo Effect' like higher pay, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:24 PM
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B The point of looking good is the sex/relationship. B) gets that so the goal is achieved. Societal approval and other such external validation is useless or a trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:16 PM
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Only if you don't also resent people who read books. Or watch movies or television.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:29 PM
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For as much energy that gets devoted to defending it as entertainment the activity remains a vice. Just about any 'return on investment' you can claim gets erased as the next wave is released. An outsider applies the criticism against EA games against the broader genre. It's pure entertainment you do without her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:39 PM
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Many women either do not know or do not care to find out what men really want from women in a relationship They know. It's the rare bird that is truly clueless. If you ever have the chance (and feel the need to do it) you can corner a woman into a conversation where she'll acknowledge the obvious. They don't want to if they don't have to, same as men who don't want to put in the work if the cow is free.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/05/22 08:06 PM
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Not the first, won't be the last :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:30 PM
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I reject your premise so I reject this conclusion. And since we are at the starting point again let's just end it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:21 PM
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Next on "America's Got Talent..."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:59 PM
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we’re gonna hold them responsible for the places and communities they choose to represent. Not me. I won't hang out at the Incel club but we can meet for drinks at the bar later. As long as he keeps that incel shit separate. Live and let live.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:48 PM
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Getting into the weeds of Incel Sectarianism is not something I want to do. On the whole the group needs a philosophical intervention. And the criminals need jail. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:41 PM
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If an Asian buddhist visits the west he may put away his swastika. He understands the context and that westerners on the whole are too reactionary. It's still a damn shame. If a Buddhist walks through New York city with his swastika I expect him to be attacked. But I condemn that attacker. How prevalent do you believe the physically disabled are represented in the incel community? Probably small but I have no idea. Not all that relevant unless you want to argue over what is a TrueCel, which I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:35 PM
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Anyone with 200 dollars in their pocket is not an 'incel'. Yeah I agree to that. But that's not what they mean when they use the word to describe their community and I hate to see people try to make them to be nazis. Swastika is still in use today, in asia. Buddhists, according to wikipedia. I wouldn't call them nazis. "there’s a lot of ways unless a man is physically disabled." You wrote all that and then literally admit there are incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:37 PM
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Irregardless the meaning of the word should of been fairly obvious. For all intensive purposes it's a contraction and I have a deap-seeded desire not to see manosphere words changed. It literally has me chomping at the bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:31 PM
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never meant anything else This source claims it was coined by a woman for herself in '97. My use is closer to the original than yours. I hate seeing all these terms being turned to insults/criminal meanings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:21 PM
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I, for one, refuse to go along with this change in language. Incel is a convenient, short label and there are plenty that do not fit your connotation. Steve Carrel's '40 year old virgin' was incel. 'Wedding Crashers' were red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:15 PM
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It's more a shift in the curve than it is a comparison of a slide vs exponential. Women also can spot where the curve is going in advance and pick a same age man on that curve. All things equal they'll pick younger but it can't be denied that women pick provider aspects in addition to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:22 PM
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The site buckets a lot into that number, including emotional cheating and flirting. Down in the details these stats seem more relevant. They aren't small but they are way below that 70% – In the USA: 25% of men and 15% of women cheat on their spouses.Source: NYTimes: American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy – 37% of American men and 17% of American women in dating and relationships cheated sexually on their partner.Source: The National Health and Social Life Survey – 16% of American …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:25 PM
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Majority don't cheat. Random site ( https://hetexted.com/cheating-statistics/ ) says ~20% married, and up to 40% unmarried will cheat. Its still sizeable. My opinion on why isn't backed by a study but I've had married men tell me on trips that in order to cheat the woman will have to be amazingly hot. Some are talking themselves up but I know examples where the man does.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:14 PM
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Opportunity, and the commitment to their idea of themselves as Not-A-Cheater. Apparently the former is typically the stronger reason. See Tiger Woods and other celebrity vagabonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:01 PM
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no matter what they or any man does, a woman will leave him for Chad or cheat on him with Chad. ESPECIALLY, if Chad is offering commitment. What is stopping her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:39 PM
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This is the Blastoise I remember. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:30 PM
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I suspect it allows nascent dog-fighting enthusiasts to experience the excitement. Maybe get it out of their system. Same as other video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:16 PM
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Date ethically expecting few options with an emphasis on filtering as early as possible. Know that many women might ignore your adamant No Kids No marriage criteria expecting they can change you, get mad or baby trap you when you refuse to change. Maybe date the younger women. Perhaps a higher percent of 20's will be interested in your situation than 30's. Or date older 40's divorcees who are literally done with that. or Date Unethically, maybe taking inspiration the Red Pill way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:31 PM
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We women really need to establish friendships with people/family that still want us WHEN THE TREADS ARE GOING BALD!!!!! The word you are looking for is 'children'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:51 PM
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I just hope participation isn't mandatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:55 PM
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I missed that distinction the first time, and I think others will too. Worst Stable is very different from Worst Outcome, which is how users here will want to swing that fact as a blunt weapon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:26 PM
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Your summary point is slightly off I feel. From WikiPedia : In other words, a matching is stable when there does not exist any match (A, B) which both prefer each other to their current partner under the matching. This doesn't mean women get their Worst choice. But yes there is an advantage for Men in the scenario : They are guaranteed their highest available preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:24 PM
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I skimmed your thread but feel your followup points were addressed adequately so I'll leave this as a summary response Men will marry when 1) there are tangible legal benefits for the man on day 1 and 2) there isn't massive downside risk years down the line. Marriage will not be used as insurance against a grim dark future, not by the ones who actively oppose it today.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 07:09 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqiSBr2W6Os
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:21 PM
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Many monarchs have come and gone. One drowned in poison, another succumbed to flame. Still another slumbers in a realm of ice. Not one of them stood here, as you do now. You, conqueror of adversities. Give us your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:13 PM
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If you can date, then medium term dating is cheapest bang for you buck. 3 month to year with no legal entanglements, livein arrangement or shared expenses. Your mileage may vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:07 PM
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Women are props on the stage of life, and no matter how caring, how intelligent… Ugly will remain ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 05:29 PM
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When you encounter an individual you take them as they are. Trends are meaningless. When you are searching for someone trends matter. How economical, how likely are you to find a person with certain qualities? These are lessons you can apply. If the person you want to find is statistically impossible you must change your actions or your expectations. Sometimes both.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:21 PM
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That males= better friends bit was always chauvinist machismo. One of garbage talking points from TRP I just filter out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 02:11 PM
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The dystopia is there isn't anything beyond the dopamine fuel you are given. There is free sex but no love. There is work appropriate to your caste but no way to strive beyond that. It is the dystopia that many would choose even when presented all the facts. Between 1984 and Brave New World it is the scariest option because it feels more real even though the technology in BNW is beyond our reach compared to 1984. From a maslow hierarchy of needs view there is no top of the pyramid. BNW's answer …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 02:01 PM
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Just Be Yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 09:53 PM
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Delivering a performance counts.Carrie Fischer is one of the most prolific 'script fixers' in film history. Not strictly on the topic of comedy but she was a script writer.Tina Fey was a comedy writer long before she was on camera.I might concede the 'tends to' portion though. I don't have the data specifically in that field but men tend to be among the 'best of' in every job.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:02 PM
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Who said women aren't funny? Chris Hitchens, various comedians. Male viewers usually find men funny. Women like female comedians. Also standup isn't the only kind of funny. Plenty of funny women through all of film.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:57 PM
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I assume you mean Long term relationships versus short term dating. Short term dating is a prereq for Long term. money is required for long term but the min is not millions per year. Lots of good work out there to cover the 'money' part.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:29 PM
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Looks, then status then money. With looks she will notice you. Status : her social group will let her know. Money : money is status but different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:21 PM
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Need to amend the definition of Wife a bit. Income is pooled and split, typically in her favor. In exchange, she has no obligations whatsoever including sex. If she cheats or ends the arrangement for any reason she gets her half of the income pool, potentially future earnings as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:14 PM
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Don't date communists. It only encourages them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:39 PM
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If they became rich that way, they also would have become rich through hard and fair work. This is some Just World Fallacy nonsense. You can just as easily say if a man became rich playing in the NFL he would have become rich through some other work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:30 PM
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Venezuela it is,then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:13 PM
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I will always defend Patrice for making radio gold. He figured out standup just before he died unfortunately. Always had a finger on it but something just off prior to Elephant in the Room.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:10 PM
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It's weird that you think an exonerated person was in the wrong, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:44 PM
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And what I find funny is all the women on TikTok going "He's not even that attractive!!" He isn't obviously gorgeous enough where they expect to be used and tossed aside. He went against the plan and everyone lost their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:16 PM
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He would have heavily decreased the amount of women available to him by being honest. Not just the amount but the caliber as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:53 PM
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The piece you are missing is people respond to incentives. Not their past. Better to remove the option entirely than risk divorce under the current rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:43 PM
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You cannot vet for 'won't divorce rape'. These days it is difficult to enforce a prenup, let alone a something softer. Past behavior no guarantee of future behavior. QED
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:32 PM
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Process of elimination. Poke enough holes into a subject and Nihilism is at the bottom. They have an emphasis on the unchangeable. To a large extent the importance of looks is understated in Red Pill/blue pill discussion. Much like the red pillers decrying blue for underselling the importance of advice beyond 'just be yourself', black looks at Red and claims they are underselling looks. Which many do. Red pill can be sold as 'There are no leagues'. Black has the point saying 'yes there are'. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:40 PM
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The term 'Game' is analogous to 'War'. There's strategy, tactics, grand strategy but it's all just War. The subject shifts with your scale. Game is similar. It is 'charm school' for men with a more humble, limited scope in its beginnings. The term is more a misnomer today. pickup game, inner game, outergame, social circle game. Dropping the term 'game' you can often just describe what you are doing with already common terminology. Game is your behavior tailored to specific social situations. Usi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:09 PM
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The best dating advice is 'Just be Attractive'. If you can't, 'Just Get Attractive'. Other advice can help but if we are limited to one that is best.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:28 PM
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It means she knows how to talk highly of you. What she really feels is a mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:01 PM
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Tie child support to marriage. No marriage, no support.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:19 PM
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You say but today other guys are getting it. So friggen what. A rising tide lifts all boats. Modern standards here have changed, same as other modern comparisons to your farmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:10 PM
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Good. Fresh and Fit are derivative clowns.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:43 PM
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That is a brilliant approach. Avoids the well-trodden talking point and goes right to the heart : status.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre20/01/22 04:33 PM
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Every time I see that advice given it's for a different reason. It's don't sleep around at work if you need that job/career since a disgruntled ex-girl can make your work life hell to the point of job loss. The point isn't to avoid wasting your time on bad odds. It's advice to keep food on your table.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:10 PM
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Using words as Magic spells. Say what achieves the desired outcome.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/22 06:16 PM
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The lottery analogy becomes more apt each passing day. The same strategies and incentives for participation apply pretty much directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 07:46 PM
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And lies about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 07:41 PM
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Dammit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 07:01 PM
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Not if its a job I need, or a field that's a 'small world'.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 02:23 PM
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How can he slap?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:34 PM
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Depends. If you were raised with anything resembling a traditional upbringing (and some values took hold) Red Pill can be pretty depressing. Now if all you ever wanted in life was to be a cad then the realization that any woman can potentially be your toy then Red Pill is exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 01:57 PM
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It's extremely context dependent. Mr.Burns being shit on at stonecutters meetings is very accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:51 PM
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"Personally I have severe trust issues, depression and some trauma " Some free therapy worth exactly what you paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 02:27 AM
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If there was a subreddit, r/DahmerPill , whereby serial killers exchanged tricks and recipes then the discussion there would be amoral. Anyone who killed and eats people would be acting immorally (personal judgement) and illegally, which is the most important piece. In your example of "negging is wrong" you are applying a moral framework from the outset. Negging isn't subject to any objective morality any more than any other moral question brough up throughout history. Morality is subjective, as…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:18 PM
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Glad you are okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 10:02 PM
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In a word, yes. Bad money chases out the good. All used cars are lemons. The effect play out the same under different circumstances. I would just amend 'apply to all women' to 'apply to all strangers'. Edit : Stopping your car to assist a strange man with vehicle trouble on a lonely road isn't advisable either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 08:05 PM
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Here we have illustrated the opposing gender agendas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 07:51 PM
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There are numerous stories of men stepping in to a domestic dispute to defend a woman only for her to turn on him and help her man assault the rescuer. A man stopped to help a woman with her car troubles then accused of rape (proven a false accusation). Are these the norm? No, the majority of times when you help people they appreciate it. Time poole made a video years ago about this. People want to go about their day and go home at the end of it. If stopping to help someone means they don't get …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 03:29 PM
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I vaguely recall 'attractiveness' and 'intelligent' do correlate. Probably a Jordan Peterson soundbite. Life really is unfair that way. There's also a Halo effect. There are also very intelligent ugly people, and super hot dumb people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:48 PM
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Whoever has the Gold makes the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:19 PM
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Based Best definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 03:47 PM
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Based. And redpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 01:37 PM
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Nature of a relationship will always need to be defined, in specificity. Unwritten 'rules' aren't binding, and if a woman is in any way trying to 'have her cake and eat it' with clueless guys then the guys today aren't so clueless. But generally a woman can find a guy if her expectations aren't pure fantasy. There's hardly any lesson women need to take away. Guys are wise to women's shallowness. Everyone is shallow and proud of it. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 09:09 PM
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The self-motivated will always be a small percentage of people. It's not good or bad, it just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 09:28 PM
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🚀🚀🚀 to the Sun. 💎✊
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 03:48 PM
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I don't see why we can't give them the fried ice they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 05:10 PM
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It’s one of the hilarious oxymorons of TRP. “Attraction is non-negotiable, but if you act like a beta she’ll lose attraction, and if you act like an alpha she’ll gain attraction” lol wtf... Attraction cannot be simped. That's the 'negotiation' TRP rejects. Attraction can be affected by non-Looks. It cannot be contracted ie. negotiated. Choreplay is not a way to achieve attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 06:31 PM
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You have kids with a lady you choose, who presumably makes plans with you. You don't wife up a fwb who happens to get pregnant on accident. And if you aren't wifeing her then no reason to send her a check each month. You can't take it with you but you can still keep it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:10 PM
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Participation Trophy Wife
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:05 PM
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This conversation is 15 years late. Your talking points are straight out of 2000's PUA seminars. Go watch Magnolia for the nostalgia factor. Read Rational Males Schedules of Mating posts. Append PPD's Female Social Matrix for insight on the 'status' part of the looks/money/status triforce. TRP fixes the problems with PUA. Edit: Women’s desire is very negotiable, we can be swayed with other factors. It's important to be clear : negotiable means charm. The simp thinks he can trade favors. When TRP…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 08:38 PM
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personality They don't mean 'character' or 'reliability'. They mean the personality that is social and fun. Essentially Game.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 05:21 PM
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Yeah but they ruined Scotland.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 05:32 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqkT4B-9MGk
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:46 PM
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If we end up paying anyway then fine. I don't see why it must be filtered through an InsurCo. Tax and grant if it's a Public Health issue. I have no opinion on whether mandatory insurance lowers the cost due to the theory you describe. I'll say that if the difference is not exhorbitant, I'd prefer non-mandatory even if I pay a little more overall. Because I'm skeptical regarding the company effecting lower costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:18 PM
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From the OP I would have thought we are talking about insurance companies, as nonprofits are never mentioned. I have no issue with nonprofits doing what they do, as long as they aren't getting gov money to do it. If this is what your post is about I have no opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:13 PM
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At least they'll die happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:58 PM
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I certainly don't know their business better than they do. But they don't have the option to run it how they want : mandatory inclusions prevent that. I know that prior to ACA maternity was not on single males plans. Now it appears to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:42 PM
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So, in the US, we’d have to take 300+ million people’s opinions on what they will or won’t support with their taxes or premiums. No, you just let insurance companies decide what is going to be covered in their plans and let them do their thing. If every plan has maternity, but Joe is a single male he's out of luck and paying into the maternity pot. Without ACA, companies can offer plans without Maternity and Joe can save 50 bucks. If there's enough Joe's then companies will offer it. I'm describ…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:38 PM
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I would get rid of mandatory participation. Anyone who found a use for the service the insurance company provides can sign up. Those who don't, don't. I would not consider that to be 'abolishing'. I don't agree that my description matches a scenario in your OP. If ACA is forcing single men to pay for other peoples kids I'm against it. If ACA is using insurance premiums to hand out condoms on campus I'm against it. If these are not happening under ACA then my points are moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:11 PM
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Why shouldn’t men’s premiums go towards the birth of their own child with their wife? The issue isn't within the family; he's paying for the family plan which covers his wife and kid so of course he pays for the birth etc. But trusting this description of ACA all plans must cover Maternity and Pediatric (kid stuff). Single payers get screwed. A father paying for his kids : all well and good. His single neighbor? Not one red cent should be contributing to another's kid. Regarding public health : …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 05:53 PM
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If insurance companies suddenly combined Fire and Flood into one package I'd be pissed if I weren't in need of Flood insurance. In general insurance premiums shouldn't be paying into conditions I can't ever have. Women's premiums shouldn't be going towards prostate issues, and men's premiums shouldn't be covering female birth stuff. On top of that, welfare state Social Engineering policies should be far and away from insurance. If you want free condoms and the like that's a political question, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 05:26 PM
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" At first it looks so easy: I just have to exist! And then the other side has to question their theory, which is a generalized theory that includes statements about me because I am a woman! But then we're told that our evidence is weak because it's not general. Because it isn't "the norm". And if I had 100 female friends who were my exact copy, they wouldn't be general enough either. " Your mistake is in your assessment of what Red Pill is. It is not a maths theory that needs to match precisely…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 03:55 PM
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Isn't there a day thing strategies for females subreddit or anything like that to check for those who are inthorested in that? /r/FemaleDatingStrategy for the edgy version, bitter version. 'The Rules' or really just traditional courting advice for the (somewhat dated) mainstream version. Or talk to any female friends you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 04:58 PM
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I'll Google some mosques and report back to you once the infiltration is underway. What shall be our code word? Ah salami I like'em
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 08:16 PM
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The inverse is true with casual sex. Men will settle for uglier women to keep up the frequency of sex they want, and women prioritize sleeping with me Hard flex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 10:10 PM
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You aren't wrong. But there's lots of people who feel the best way to life satisfaction is to pick a lady, make a family, do the whole trad con thing. To tell them not to, no matter how good the reason, is to take away something very meaningful for them. It's a rock and hard place situation. No surprise it can make men angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:40 PM
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To start down the white picket fence route, 2.5 kids and all that. Put your wild days behind and become boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 02:19 PM
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In addition to other responses regarding tone, which I agree explain some, there's an effect that economics professors find : Economic students are the people who act most like the theory describes. In other words learning whats in your rational self-interest causes you to act differently from 'normies', who then call those people assholes. Even though the theory is supposed to describe people in the first place. It takes time to internalize the lessons and return to a kind of normalcy with some…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 07:13 PM
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What unadulterated nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 05:25 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTQwTDvN4ds
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 05:40 PM
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I'm more a fan of Nonstop Nut November
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 05:32 PM
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Truly deviant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:52 AM
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I asked everyone: why should a man assume so much risk and get married? A new talking point has spread on PPD : "Willingness to marry gets the man access to 'Better Women' ". This has a touch of truth at least. But still no actual benefit that the man himself gets; they just acknowledge the relationship as a hostage situation with marriage being the hostage money. And no guarantee the hostage will live.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/20 01:34 PM
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Another consideration : Pence rule protects the dignity of his wife. Something the article doesn't even consider. Pence Rule acknowledges there are three people involved, not two, when business colleagues meet for dinner.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/20 01:07 PM
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TRP has always called marriage Hard Mode. Just because you can succeed doesn't mean you should try it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:23 PM
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Yes. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 03:14 PM
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Oh, oops. Didn't know!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:17 PM
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Can you link to that “experiment”? Video commentary here. Nothing by the 'experimenters' available due to banning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSq54f2JT_U
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 01:39 PM
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guess ima newfag
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:22 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y5mDgyAQ2A
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 11:51 PM
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They are Lobbyists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 02:34 PM
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In a market where no reliable information is findable you assume the worst case as that is where the market will trend. Hence all used cars are Lemons no matter how well maintained the seller claims the car to be. You need a service like CarFax and Certified-PreOwned to raise your expectations on the average used car. If only the woman and her friends are telling you she has Low-N, and if you care about such things, best to assume she has the typical N.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 02:21 PM
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Everything is not about Power. You are barking down the wrong tree there. Women have children because 1) they want to 2) Duty. Women and Men 'get together' because they like each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 11:56 AM
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And for God-Emperor Trump's sake, please don't Short any stocks!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:04 PM
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On average the fees eat any profit you'd make, and the risk is very high. So it's both less profitable and higher risk. The average person can't beat the market, as described in the book. Please read the book cover to cover. There are studies where individuals CAN beat the market. Again, fees eat the profit. If you worked for a trade company you could make feeless trades, but you don't so you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:00 PM
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Random walk down wall street Short conclusion : put a percentage monthy into a Total Market index fund. Sites like Vanguard provide them at low cost. Avoid day trading unless you work for an investing firm. And if you do you likely legally cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:47 PM
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I’ve yet to meet a woman who receives alimony. I know personally women who do. Am I supposed to ignore my anecdote for yours? Or should I look at the possible outcomes and decide what's in my best interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 05:56 PM
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I second this as accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:51 PM
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The post is probably fake but could be real. The attitude of commenters though is revealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:38 PM
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Cuck's gonna cuck. He failed No Simp September.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:10 PM
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Zoom out and get it in context 'Zooming out' has the opposite effect on happiness. If you look at just the big picture any accomplishment dies. Your empire will fall, family legacy unrecognizable in a few short generations. Civilization and even consciousness itself will end. Zoom in to the small scale. And now we are back to the complaints you shrugged aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 08:25 PM
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I disagree this forces men to be misogynist, any more than ogling a luxury yacht makes you hate the rich. But there's a flip side to your coin : women want children more than men. Sure, men want children too. But the baby rabies in effect is sexist.The social games/manipulation you bring up men abuse gaining sex is reflected when the woman asks herself "How do I get a family of my own"? Personally I don't feel that I hate women, but I don't care about the things they (generalizing) want me to ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:13 PM
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My bottom-line point is 'service to women', without a defined benefit, is simping. Chivalry : There's a million jokes with the theme 'Chivalry is dead, and women killed it'. Dalrock has an entire section dedicated to Cultural Chivalry and it's toxicity/problems. Officers Code of Conduct : Unless the man is an officer why would he be held to this, or want to? Whats the benefit to him? All duty and no benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 09:10 PM
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We agree simp has negative connotations. I'm saying that I call what you consider positive behavior simping to color it with the negative connotations. I really mean it when I call it simping. You don't like those men being called simps but that's entirely the point of using the word this way. You disagree with my use but now we are arguing over definitions. The word is used as I describe, even if you don't like/agree that it should be. edit: It's not about describing a man as seen by women. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 08:45 PM
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I'm just going to lend another voice to /u/DangZagnut 's point : "Simp" as used in manosphere is his version of the word, not this version with a tacked on "unless the man is attractive". " that some of that service to women is what is expected of men. " - this is Simping. This is what manosphere men mean by simping, even if you don't. And manosphere men mean it to have a negative connotation. Chivalry is Simping. Full stop. The Officer Code of Conduct is simping. Protecting "your woman" isn't s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 08:08 PM
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Average Frustrated Chump
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:40 PM
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I'm a user who doesn't believe in 'pron-less' men. It's not that they don't exist, but they exist in these very strange outlier bubbles. Like the Amish. Depending on your survey, somewhere between 80% and 100% of eligible men watch porn monthly. https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/new-survey-of-porn-use-shows-startling-stats-for-men-and-women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 08:29 PM
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Some of the guys who embodied this attitude (Will Smith, Dr Dre) are now getting divorced from their 'ride or die' girl. Something to think on.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 09:08 PM
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The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. Anatole France
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 01:34 PM
2

Gotta break out the Demon Love Hotel mods for next time.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 01:33 PM
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Better to look for his videos on bitchute. He's MGTOW, but the channel is more political/societal commentary right now.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 01:02 PM
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The ones who use "it's just a tool box" to justify being Red and quasi-tradcon at the same time. "it's just a tool box" is a response to Blue arguments condemning TRP Dreadgame, and similar niche talking points. Negging was another.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 02:56 PM
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Just a bunch of nonsense. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 06:16 PM
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Get over that and there are still legit reasons to go the wife and family route. Would you mind listing some? No one in this forum has ever given a decent answer that would convince a Single Man to go become a Family Man. The topic is avoided at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 04:46 PM
25

Don't hate the playa hate the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 07:06 PM
2

Archwinger's Men are Not Happy. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/27dzrm/men_are_not_happy/ That Warlord post is after my time, and frankly reads like a Seddit throwback.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 08:17 PM
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A religious person. Someone who thinks the christian magic is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:35 PM
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Steve Harvey is a religious. Not the typical person in the dating field.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 03:34 PM
2

A stock exchange operating under SEC rules, where men can offer Niceness coins for sex and women can Offer Sex Futures for relationships. With all the regulation that entails. A SExchange, if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:59 PM
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The analogy is to illustrate the point : it's not a one-to-one argument. Arguing within the analogy doesn't negate my point. But keeping in the analogy, when everyone is after cute wheels Zip Car rentals exist to meet the barest needs for Cute Wheels on Camry's at a huge discount. If you then want to get paid Mercedes prices you need to sell Mercedes quality offering more than Cute Wheels. But on the main point : sex isn't all I'm interested in unless sex is all you have to offer. And I can get …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 03:32 PM
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For a first date? Fine, sure. But women don't want the thirsty dudes. They aren't on her radar as options, but she appreciates the validation. And a decent, non-thirsty dude can/must have a checklist beyond "Has Vagina?" . To keep a relationship the woman absolutely is more than her vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 03:21 PM
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That's like a restaurant advertising they have silverware, or a car salesmen boasting all his cars have wheels. Women bring a vagina. And, what else? That's the shit that gets you in the door. It's not the only selling point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 01:23 PM
3

Fiona was literally an Ogre who thought she was a Princess. The irony.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/07/20 12:45 PM
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I hope for her sake it's just a spicy tagline for her photoshoot. I see too many articles lately about women being shocked that GoneWild style pictures show up in their personal lives to ruin relationships they wanted to keep separate. So many OnlyFans that look like easy money are backfiring on women. I used to feel a sort of schadenfreude; now it's just sad. Not moralizing it one way or the other. I just think her enthusiasm will lead to regret, and it's more the shame that it's self inflicted…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/07/20 10:17 PM
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Christians are BP. Atheists are BP. It's a different dimension than secular/spiritual. While BP is defined as ignorant, it strongly correlates with an attitude that prioritizes women, as a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 02:04 PM
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People will prefer what they know, even communism I guess. Sure. Your comment about the leaders has the appearance of stronger support than this parent's comment, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:42 PM
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It's the leaders who make communism "not work, False, and blaming the leaders can leave the impression that the communist utopia is a real option.There are two problems that are related and seem intractable for communism: 1) Price discovery 2) scarcity Scarcity provides a need for rationing. Rationing via Price, using the Free Market for Price discovery, is the best answer I know of. I'm pretty certain no one has a better answer yet either. A free economy solves Price Discovery by everyone setti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 11:58 AM
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It’s so alien to imagine loving someone (or even worse someTHING) that I can’t respect or admire. Is that even love? For the sake of argument, imagine a child. Imagine the child is just a complete screwup. Failure to launch, failure in life. Someone you have no respect for. You still love that child, right? Repect and love are different, and different kinds of love exist. Male and female love are different. There's too many concepts mapped onto the single word 'love' in English.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 04:34 PM
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Men and women love differently then, if what you quote is a woman's love. This stuff is not love: admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom the imitate, idolize,, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence Sacrifice is men's love.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 04:23 PM
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How I found freedom in an Unfree World - A bit dated in some examples. A good jolt to push away from Collective Morality and argues for an aristotelian personal virtue. Not quite in that language though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9uizdKZAGER&B seems like it was always more raw. Just Be Good to Me - This song in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:12 PM
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There isn't one. I won't be adopting kids. This is not to say I'm against adoption as a concept. If someone wants to adopt, go for it. It's not a thing I want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:23 PM
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Personally I will not take such a deal. Teaming up with a woman to raise kids is 100% conditional on being the biological father. If my genes aren't up to snuff my wallet isn't available either. It's just, a lot of people hate their own looks but they don't even think about how it could've been prevented all along: If their mom had chosen a better looking guy. Nitpicking, but you assume 'you' would still be 'you' but prettier. Had your mom picked someone else, you wouldn't exist at all. Some oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:16 PM
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Blue invalidates their own position in my opinion by taking the stance 'We aren't here to sell you anything'. Usually it's the marriage topic, but it pops up elsewhere too. Any variation of the phrase "we aren't here to convince you to X; do what you want" feels like a concession to Red Pill to me. Saying "We oppose the red pill misogyny" while ignoring the anecdotes/anecdata/studies that lead a person to the ideas you label misogyny doesn't feel like a way to win anyone over. If there's no atte…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 01:43 PM
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Rioting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 02:12 PM
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Big girl on a diet Lookin' like a double wide surprise.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/20 03:01 PM
1

> What are your thoughts on Female Dating Strategy compared to TRP? It seems it only serves to unbalance the dating market even more than it already is. FDS is standing on the down end of a Teeter-Totter and trying to drive it further into the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 09:37 PM
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What is that notion? We can ACT as if there is free will, like with criminal proceedings. But it would be true that murderers had no free will in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 12:32 PM
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The comparison isn't man to woman. It's the broken 20 yo man versus the fixed 30 yo man. Had he had his shit together in his twenties he'd observe a decline. Maybe when the Wall has hit full force you can expect a change. The women here self-report otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 08:12 PM
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this Attractive man better than No Man better than Unattractive Man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 01:34 PM
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Goldfish need love too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 01:30 PM
2

How far does this idea take you? If you want to see a play and invite friends, do you pay for everyone's tickets, because it was your idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 03:23 PM
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They may find they don't enjoy it. But they'd no longer be incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 02:54 AM
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I agree there's a distinction. If you are doing it so that there's a woman at the end it's still a payment in a sense. I also agree self investment is the best way. If the lady likes the status of dating a doctor she can't take that with her when she leaves him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 12:26 PM
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That attitude is forgivable when strolling alone at night. It is heinous when encapsulated in print.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 08:48 PM
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Attractive Men > Attrative Women > average women > average men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 05:14 PM
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Women don't like sexual competition News at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 05:09 PM
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When I heard the term, I thought the Carousel was slang for this serial monogamy. This route of High School Boyfriend, then college boyfriend, then after college dating looking for the Husband. We can debate the degree a True Carousel exists, but I have enough tradcon residual in me to look askance at 'Serial Monogamy'. Dalrock has great posts on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 04:42 PM
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That would be some headline. "Gaydar is REAL! And Pedos have it"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 02:33 PM
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Woman Good Man Bad. It really doesn't get more involved than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 08:51 AM
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Half
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 07:22 PM
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partners I am lukewarm about It's worse. Find out they are lukewarm about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:16 PM
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For red pill to mean anything, those 'Blue Pillers' have to be doing it naturally, or be making up for not doing it in other ways. Like being really really ridiculously good looking. Or the unwitting prop in the woman's lifescript for the phase of her life she's in. Lots of people pair up without ever hearing about this wacko internet slang. The debate I see that still occurs here is the claim that Red Pill as such has too much cruft. Blue Pillers like to say Red pill doesn't have a monopoly on …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 10:45 PM
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The advice isn't for LTR. It's for meeting up the first time from tinder. Some guys think you should seduce her via text. Save that shit for face to face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 07:19 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNED9Z0LLi0
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/02/20 06:37 PM
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It clearly isn't a job like any other, and the women who engage in it show that they understand this under the right circumstances. Exactly right. This woman blew her cover, and doesn't even know it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/02/20 01:06 AM
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she was so unattracted to him that she refused to fuck him even when he was willing to pay her for it! This point went completely over my head until I read your take. It really would be uniquely insulting. Admittedly it would be uncouth of him to make overtures during that same conversation, but the lady explains it like the option is off the table under any circumstance. Imagine finding out your friend is a mechanic during his complaining about his job. Later you politely ask if he'd be willing…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/20 10:01 PM
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That is some next level chicanery.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 09:45 AM
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Needs an r/sellMeOnMarriage
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 01:36 AM
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You are emphasizing Supply. Don't forget Demand. Male thirst is near infinite.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 09:20 PM
1

How am I supposed to appreciate the taste of good burger? They're so cheap!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 07:24 PM
1

It's payed in kind. Marriage itself and the relationship as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:37 PM
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It's actually pretty easy to put a cost on it. A couple hiring a surrogate spends about 140k, with about 70k going to the surrogate woman. This puts the ceiling of payment at 140k, with about 70k in wiggle room for negotiation. Edit: Sourced a site the puts the cost today at 190k. https://www.mysurrogatemom.com/surrogate-mother-cost/ With itemized costs, for informed negotiation. Looks like about 100k of that is fees to Science that wouldn't be payed when the couple creates the pregnancy 'as nat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:29 PM
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My ideal would be more tight knit, not less. Meaning keep extended family in the same home or neighborhood. Grandparents and others can help with child daycare stuff while mommy and daddy have to work. This enables mommy to live the feminist dream without daddy becoming a stay-at-home manlet or the kids becoming feral products of the School-to-Daycare System. For various reasons this has faded away.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:13 PM
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It's descriptive. You could try making a case for the idea being wrong. But the word does describe a concept. A woman not risking her marriage to fuck randos is following hypergamy. A man that does risk his marriage to fuck randos ( who look worse than his wife : see Tiger Woods) is not acting hypergamously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:02 PM
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Can't she and her husband share the household duties so they both have their fair share of time and energy to focus on their jobs? Focusing on the job means 44-50 hour work weeks, solid consistently. Calling in because Timmy has the flu is not part of that. If you and hubby can both juggle that, more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 09:56 PM
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I've said before RedPill itself as a debate topic is irrelevant. A lot of things happened to make the talking points mainstream. And #MeToo put a dent in the 'pickup' aspect, so that Spinning Plates (the suggested Way of Things) is much more a risk than in years past. As another poster wrote, black pill is in. Alt-topics are in. TRP, to my surprise, is just not extreme enough to make for interesting debate. Hell, the blue posters here barely disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 04:48 PM
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The solution is to apply a better filter. Not eliminate options by making yourself less appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 02:34 PM
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do you have a personal experience as to how this wasnt the case for you? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 12:02 AM
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My point was solving the Paradox by getting rid of options isn't a good thing. More options is always better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 11:59 PM
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Your argument is basically Less options is better than more! It's not, in any rational sense. You are describing the Paradox of Choice. Your solution is a little unconventional. I admit it does the job. Edit : I might agree if your argument was the 18 year old has grown a career as he aged to 28, and that now you can grab him while the bet is sure. His potential has become reality, a kind of betting after the roulette wheel has stopped. But that wasn't your argument. I'm also pretty sure the ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 11:23 PM
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No. What you are describing is friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 12:34 AM
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It is mostly women watching the heinously violent shit. Most guys are looking for favorite position or sexual act. Guys click any category and use the chapter selector to find "Reverse Cowgirl' or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:54 PM
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I don't consider porn use to be degenerate the way women seem to want it to be. You are entitled to make your own opinion. You also accept the consequences of your feelings though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:49 PM
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This is a good answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:32 PM
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How is a man good if he watches porn lol. Depending on your survey, somewhere between 80% and 100% of eligible men watch porn monthly. https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/new-survey-of-porn-use-shows-startling-stats-for-men-and-women With one of your criteria you are down to 20%. You are basically selecting for cripples and boring weirdos, then not wanting them either. You should Pow-wow with a gal pal and figure some shit out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:27 PM
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So marriage is a business? Then let us draw up private business contracts instead of this One-Size-Fits-All nonsense the law imposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 09:19 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 09:04 AM
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>So you want all the rewards without any of the effort or risk? Yes, when and if at all possible. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 07:22 PM
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If a secular version could be made now, I think MRA's would have already done it. And if laws could be changed, I think MRA's would have already done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:58 PM
3

You might find Jewish marriage interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:16 PM
1

A smulder.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 07:20 PM
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Atlas in the past wrote that Alphas, to her, are criminals or borderline psychos. I'm glad women acknowledge they aren't husband material. My own picture of Alpha she might call High Beta : Don Draper, not Drug Lord Heisenberg. The sales pitch to Beta's still needs work though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 06:43 PM
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Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 02:03 AM
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No. Even if you view all relationships as transactional (Dollars for sex), Prostitutes are still on the high end compared to short term flings and LTR's. But cheaper than Divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 09:27 PM
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hellraiser Ah yes. Such a wonderful RomCom!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 09:36 PM
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Counterexample : Highlander Though the majority follow your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 09:09 PM
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There's this graph from a study. https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/4vcxd0/almost_all_men_are_stronger_than_almost_all_women/ The Crowder link is just more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 01:39 AM
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There's a famous video from Crowder where his sidekick arm wrestles a Crossfit chick, and beats her easily. A stick figure man stronger than this buff looking chick. It's not even a close match. Men and women are different in this case, almost by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:09 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3yon2GyoiM
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:54 PM
2

i had no idea Asian girls like gay bars so much. Might be traps from BangCock.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:48 PM
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If there is a direct wealth transfer, probably. However, she can be attracted to the wealth, or the status, or whatever for it's own sake. Same as a man can't siphon a woman's beauty but can appreciate and want her for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:47 PM
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Your point makes sense, but you can't claim men and women are the same from it. If 90 men are similar to your chosen man but only 10 women are, you are going to conclude there's no difference? Because you can find one example? How about if men derive confidence from their physical upper body strength superiority , you expect to find women who are similar?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:41 PM
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That is hilariously cliche surgeon douchebaggery.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:38 PM
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Cutting the lunch line.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:59 PM
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I mean, it better be. Otherwise we would have been outcompeted by a super-selfish Neandertal. Or will be. A kind of anthropic principle makes it likely that trust/punishment is The Way. But the fickleness of Pris. Dilem. solutions based on trust show how precarious it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:54 AM
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I'm not certain this is completely a Red vs Blue topic. Even Blue pill would say guys need to be 'out there, be social'. Obviously Red will stress the Hard Sell Seduction angle. I don't think Blue advocates 'nerd game', if that makes sense. I think there's a Non-Blue-Delusional mindset that's also in this mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:33 PM
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I would love to read one, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:39 PM
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It could be a year, and women still get Pumped/Dumped. The guy might say "That's it? You made me wait for this?" . Life is risk, as the PPD women are fond to point out to the men when the topic is Divorce Rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:23 PM
3

Everyone has aids!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:44 AM
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The brother was doing his job vetting his recommendations. If the older brother isn't going to vet, the little bro might as well have been on Tinder. Bad suggestions reflect badly on him to his bro. The wife wanted to shine for her 'bestie' by cutting a line to a so-called Good Man for the little sister. Got mad her husband wouldn't sacrifice his credibility so she can build hers. The 'wife material' bit is just cover.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 02:58 PM
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People with higher incomes pay taxes which lower income people benefit from. Yes, agreed. I thought your question wasn't rhetorical and you truly wondered where the idea came from. 'Only men provide' is not my position, if that's unclear. The study the article references is a lot more tame than the article writer's conclusions. The writer uses the same 'reasoning' that would conclude the Gender wage gap is 70 cents on the dollar.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:11 PM
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What is this myth that men pay taxes and women collect them? The myth is that 'No Women Pay Taxes'. What I linked is where it came from. Of course there are flaws in this thinking. In future you'll be able to reference where the idea comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:03 PM
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It comes from this study of New Zealand. https://femoid.com/its-true-only-men-pay-tax/ It's talking Average of Lifetime of All. Not particular to individuals, so you yourself (if a Kiwi) can easily still be a net tax payer. Extrapolating to other countries is questionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 10:44 PM
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It costs no money to try your shot. Most men walking around are Blue Pill. They know looks matter but they think they can win you over once you get to know them. They think their looks are a foot in the door. They don't know it's a hard requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:38 PM
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Haven't read the whole post yet. Apologies. My TLDR: While I don't hold to everything the guy writes this resonates with me . Perhaps weaker than he states but there's truth there. Growing up friends had tried to teach me what was what, but the 'red pilling' that stuck was seeing the antics my 'good girl' associates got up to. Mostly the duplicitous nature of how they dealt with boyfriends. Being shushed in one particular moment is burned in my mind. I was bringing up facts I didn't know were se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:19 AM
1

Bill is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 12:51 PM
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I'm not alt-right. Go find their forums if you want to talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:18 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:00 PM
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My SJW Bingo card just hit every square.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:33 PM
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Ok thanks. I'm also incredibly horrified that this is even a topic. I gotta go buy some pearls so I can clutch them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:36 AM
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I feel your post is misdirected? Or clarifying my point? I don't agree with azngirl, in case my response to azngirl isn't clear. I'm specifically opposing her 'It's not rape to rape' Topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:29 AM
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Some people do. It didn't work out the way these might have liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:18 AM
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Jokes aside, the only opinion I care about in this case is the law. Your take doesn't jive with how it works in the real world of scary men with badges and guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:08 AM
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The idea of the Wall as a perfect revenge fantasy needs to go. It's valid in the sense that professional athletes have a Wall. Can they compete forever ? No. And the dumb ones are left broke and broken. Some percentage of women end that way. Maybe a significant amount. But some parlay into other careers. Did George Foreman like selling Grills more than knocking people out? I don't know, but he looked to be having some fun too. What happens after the Wall is down to circumstance. Clearly there is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:35 PM
3

"Gold digger" is graded on a curve. Few guys should begrudge their girl a night out at Applebees. But the other extreme is not something to be defended.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:15 PM
1

If you don't make top 8 you can't get a date
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 10:36 PM
1

Being a known Slut is low status in the FSM. Men don't give a shit until we are talking Marriage, and then not all men care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 06:43 PM
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Fat chick with pretty face can always lose weight. I'll take pretty face.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 02:52 PM
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And riddled with STD's, like a Koala? https://io9.gizmodo.com/you-can-accidentally-get-an-std-from-a-koala-5920738
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 04:50 PM
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Women don't consult longitudinal studies and a team of Wall Street Analysts before pulling the plug on a marriage. They ask themselves : Am I happy? They ask their lawyer : Will I get a payday? Happy New Year! Here's some papers. See you in court!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 02:52 PM
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Singlemen includes ' never married - Kinda happy' and 'divorced- Miserably broke' in the same grouping.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:13 PM
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OP took the long way to get to Looks/Money/Status. He's trying to elaborate on how Status works in a sub-culture, which is like RP 201.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 04:05 PM
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Congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 02:57 PM
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There's a similar man-advice floating around. When a wife gloats about her husband fixing something, (other men) never let on how easy the task is. Let her glow up her man for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 02:51 PM
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drinking everynight or crying If it's something that is temporary and the trouble is worth it, you can bear anything. Anything that must be endured can be. If it's something that will never get better try to get out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 02:41 PM
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RedPill does discuss this, though usually as an extension of hypergamy topics. The caveat is that your sub-culture affects the metrics you'll be judged on, with standard traits still being a layer to consider ie. Lift, be charming, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 02:39 PM
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hypocritical If a company lobbies against patents, but instead the gov expands patent law to be needed for that companies business, are they not supposed to use patents? It was a vote and they lost, now they move on. If friends of mine vote for a group trip and my preferred destination is outvoted, am I supposed to boycott the whole trip?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 12:04 PM
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If marriage has a future-value then that should translate into a net present value. In which case, I want a piece of that action. Cut me a slice of the pie and we'll see. Otherwise I got better use for my time. If olive trees could only be sold for profit only if they've fully matured then no one would grow olive trees. Future planning works because there's a Present Value in something valuable only in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 11:01 PM
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Women don’t boast about n, much less talk about it with men they’re courting/dating. Nobody talks about n IRL nor can you reliably tell someone’s n IRL. Usually it's done by one of their BFF's in a moment of anger. "Becky said this about me?!? She fucked the football team that slut!" Anecdata and all that, but I've personally witnessed this IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 11:45 AM
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I did, at the very start. You haven't moved off your position of 'Wrong by Definition!', so I can't move from mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 07:58 PM
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I'm going to stop trying to convince you. As to whether your accusations are true, I throw myself at the mercy of any audience unfortunate enough to find themselves this far in the chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 07:57 PM
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I think the mistake you are making is to try walking through the logic of what you believe are the value assignments, drawing a conclusion, and trying to bash people over the head with it. By your logic cat lovers hate cats. A: Is it annoying how cat hair gets on clothes. B: Yes. A : You you like how cat shit smells? B: No. A: You hate cats! B: I love cats! ​ To make your point you will need to walk through the conversation with the actual person. Cognitive dissonance is a thing, so even stated …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 07:50 PM
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I can't engage with your criticism because you are attacking a straw man. I don't care if TRP doesn't take that position, that is the connotation conveyed by the concept. A straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 07:37 PM
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Where you Whipped? I whipped in the kitchen, unless I'm buying pre-whipped. In that case I whipped at the store.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 07:32 PM
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What question? Your original point was nonsense. I haven't seen you revise your position so anything built on your first point is going to be nonsense. As to Beta being shameful : that's another position that TRP doesn't take. Betas might find themselves unlucky in love. That doesn't make them shameful. I stand by my first comment : recheck your premises.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 07:29 PM
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I'm guessing this was done as a tactic to make TRP look more legitimate than it really is, which is why I take issue with it I'm not going to address this point. I'll just back the conversation up ; no one in TRP is talking about controlling reproduction like a gorilla. You are out in left field trying to field fly balls when everyone is playing basketball on the pavement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 07:04 PM
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You are applying Jargon from one domain into the domain of TRP, expecting the same concepts to translate. That just doesn't work. Alpha/Beta in TRP jargon is not about passing on DNA to the next generation. You need to remove your premises and start again. You'd have the same problem trying to use the Term 'Field'. In every domain it denotes something different entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:39 PM
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Alpha is defined by example, and the rest of TRP is an attempt to extract the features that 'make' an Alpha. There's a certain element of 'Knowing when I see it' that takes place. Definition by Example IS a useful definition. Something being hard to precisely define in words or math is not a claim that your definition is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:27 PM
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About tree fiddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:18 PM
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O'Sullivan's Law
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 04:10 PM
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Congrats. Wish you the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 10:40 PM
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I've stayed friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 06:01 PM
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I don't believe there's an argument for one parent going on permanent vacation that is gendered AND would convince me it only applied to women. A SAHD will be seen as lazy? Well, I would see a SAHM that way also. Etc etc. Edit: My initial post would have been more appropriate if the topic hadn't been ' can a masculine man' do this. It is true that SAHM is feminine while is SAHD is NOT masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 11:40 PM
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are men and women the same? obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 06:35 PM
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I don't consider red pill to mean trad con. That said I have been thinking of reflairing to purple. The 'blue' trolls that made me feel red in comparison aren't active any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 05:20 PM
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I'm just going to watch and mentally substitute every argument women make against SAHD with SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 08:41 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaQqshZbtEQ
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 03:14 PM
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I'm not comparing relationships to jobs. You described it analogously to a job hunt. I just put the labels on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:44 PM
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Is that not the same? I'm not saying anything about the 'sameness' in your Phase. I'm saying the fact that sex is being called a 'Phase' is the red flag. You can have a toy truck phase, but if you built a relationship with someone based on your love of trucks you will find the relationship fizzle when you quit that hobby. Same with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 01:29 PM
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The men who think women are going to approach are expressing a Blue Pill way of thinking. They think that dating is a group project where the man and woman are looking for some kind soul mate. It seems only fair that both sides put in some effort in that search. In this thinking it makes little sense for a woman to be interested but make no approach. Outside of obvious reasons like being too shy or awkward in her approach. But your scenario describes a woman refusing to approach out of principle…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:46 AM
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Was it a 'Phase' that means she's done with sex just for fun? RP men wouldn't sign up for that. Was it a 'Phase' meaning the behavior was a symptom of mental issues? Has the woman resolved them? And what's the proof? Why should this guy take the risk? In both cases does the man benefit over choosing a woman that didn't have a phase, but is enthusiastic with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 01:26 AM
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There's nothing really wrong per se. There is the desire to be special in someone's life, especially if they are special to in yours. Being the 10,154 person served as McDonald's isn't very special. Neither is being the last musical chair a woman chooses before the music stops. If that feeling is important to either person I can see why the relationship would fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 01:02 AM
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A Christian is someone who believes Jesus was the messiah Someone could believe Jesus was the Jewish messiah but was not God, his Son, or any of the resurrection stuff. So there's a little more involved in the definition of a Christian than believing in Jesus as a Jewish messiah. If Jesus wasn't resurrected there's no Good News to share with anybody, and no Christians. Believing in a mundane historical figure as the basis of the Christian Jesus is not enough to be Christian yourself. In the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 07:07 PM
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The only thing that makes me doubt it sometimes is that, despite the stares, hardly any men approach me lol. I probably give cold bitch vibes or they are assuming I have a boyfriend. One of the first pickup lessons is that pretty women hardly get hit on. Men figure they stand no shot/she's taken already. That's the theory anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:39 PM
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Red Pill is definitely different from the Not-Naive Blue Pill. I don't have to go any farther than the radio archives of O&A with Patrice O'Neil in New York, or Tom Lykas in LA. O&A is illustrative, because Patrice would lay out Red Pill knowledge contrasted against the host's Blue Pill but Not- Delusional beliefs. The conversation often revolved around how Patrice made Logical sense, but on Earth the guys couldn't believe Women would go along. Against that, Patrice undeniably had women Blue Pil…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:51 AM
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There are plenty of rich people that pay less taxes than you and I. Maybe start there, not with the people that actually need help. I completely oppose this current 'wealth tax' being discussed. It's the 'Raise capital gains' problem, taken to the N-th degree. The rich pay less tax because they are paying capital gains, which is lower than the going Income rate. Which is lower because if you raise it, people with money leave. When they leave, your economy goes to shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 09:31 PM
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I don't hate welfare as a concept, for the reasons above. But there's a limit not currently imposed. You at least need to spend money you have or are going to have. Welfare has become a side-channel way to buy votes. How are you going to curb welfare spending when votes are bought with welfare platforms?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 06:54 PM
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Check their bank account for 200 dollars. If they have it shove them to the end of the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 10:05 PM
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You reminded me of this, using a similar mechanic. https://mashable.com/article/doom-2-secret-24-years-found/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:51 PM
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"slay queen" Queen Slay
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:44 PM
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I suspect they do. But I can't prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 03:59 AM
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women are shallow because they only want CS with attractive men, blah, blah. Not to derail a good rant filled with insightful points, but that's what people literally mean by shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 03:24 AM
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this has been in my mind recently but it's a video counter point so I'll relink it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSq54f2JT_U
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 12:04 AM
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At that point we are right back to the old 'Then why get married?' question that this sub is just so fond of. And round the circle we go. Edit : We've come to a point where women describe marriage as insurance, so let us treat it as such. You go to your insurance provider and ask for divorce insurance, as woman, to cover just such a SAHM scenario above. What terms do you think would be offered? Would they reject the proposal entirely? Now, if the insurance company can't offer a product to the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 02:47 PM
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"Only take advice from someone worse than you achieving better".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 05:07 AM
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RPers can’t seem to reach consensus on whether that is alpha or beta though. I wish I could remember who wrote it so I could credit them, but it was someone on this subreddit that referred to attraction traits as a 'lite-brite'. Guys have traits, then the woman will like certain traits, and if the two line up then Bam! So it's less about whether any trait could be Alpha or Beta than simply matching up with what the girl wants, which can change over time. Alpha and beta are big buckets. I shortcu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 04:56 AM
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The american word is 'dingleberries'.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 09:36 PM
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Jesus, that picture is everything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 06:53 PM
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Thanks! There's two ways to direct link a comment. You click the 'Share' button under the post, and you get the option to copy a link. The 'Time posted' number (like 9 hours ago) is also a direct link to the comment. If you Right click-> Copy... you get a direct link.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:56 PM
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Got a link to that thread? I missed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:16 AM
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basically live like a man
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:49 PM
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Video document for posterity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSq54f2JT_U&t=1305s
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/11/19 06:47 PM
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Nothing that's socially recognized or legally enforced. Occasionally the UMC people here make comments like "marriage is so Grandpa won't write my kids out of the will". So family specific stuff. But a man cannot strike a deal with his wife, just the two of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 02:43 PM
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No. I wrote what I'd do, not what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 04:43 PM
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Thotting takes time. And degrees expire. Good luck explaining an employment-graduation gap by telling about your E-Thot money. Just have no dignity while young to rake in money. Get respectable later. Entering the corporate world at 30 isn't bad if your retirement money is already spoken for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 03:20 PM
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I don't have any dependents so I haven't really researched but what kind of janky insurance are you looking at? Million dollar term insurance at 30 is like 400 a year according to this chart.https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/insurance/average-life-insurance-rates/ Life insurance is not a payout for when you are 60. It's literally insurance in case you die at 35 so your family won't starve for 5-10 years while Mom gets her shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 03:14 PM
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Twitch thot for that retirement money. Then get educated later.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 02:30 PM
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Even if you land a quality one, that doesn’t stop him from dropping dead. Death insurance
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 02:27 PM
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Obviously there are things men do just to do. For many, sex opportunity is an upsell that pushes the reward above the risk-vs-reward threshold. How many guitarists would start bands if groupies were not a thing? Far, far fewer than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 03:49 PM
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Not from a Jedi...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 04:53 PM
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You are a trans woman. Go embrace your truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 03:40 PM
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Dat girdle tho
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 03:27 PM
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Patrice O'Neal had a great saying about only wanting sex from women if that's all they have to offer. He would say sex is like wheels on a car. If a salesman touted how his cars had wheels, you'd be like and? What else? These men who say women only offer sex are leaving stuff out. They correctly insist sex must be there though, like a car needs wheels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 03:03 PM
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Wouldn't this be the opposite? I can't CMV on LTR, but marriage is the way by which women prevent the worst case of your scenario. The man COULD leave, same as a wife can, but she'll have the legal protections. At the very least she's entitled to half the marriage assets, and in many places some form of alimony. Your post would be better if it left marriage out, and then I'd agree. Marriage though is the intended way to avoid your disaster. It is odd to me you include it in your 'No Point to Rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 02:59 PM
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Chicken tenders. Also known as tendies. Mom's use them to woo their man-children with warm treats. Ready in 15 minutes. Other girls just can't compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 10:22 PM
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Mom's tendies game must be on point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 09:58 PM
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Women expect men to behave like their stereotype of 'Men'. If you aren't objectifying them sexually they conclude you are gay. Hence better to ask forgiveness than permission, ie Always Escalate Physically. Also, #MeToo is a thing. Good luck squaring them together.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 09:19 PM
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Agreed. Red Pill Theory by it its nature tries to force hard and fast rules where in reality social stuff is kinda loosey goosey.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 02:28 AM
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Then I mistook your original point. I'm not trying to gotcha, only find out if you disagreed with my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 02:16 AM
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It’s not like women demand marriage immediately or aren’t willing to wait for several years. Short answer: Not all the men who promise to marry eventually will. Some will drop their lady and branch swing when the bill comes due. Those women do not escape unscathed like your point seems to insist. And there's women who aren't good enough but only barely who become the vocal complainer on the internet, who feed the 'Where Are the Good Men' trolls. That's the relevance to your point. Your post is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 02:04 AM
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There are equal amounts (women are marrying somebody) but the timing is off. Women want commitment a few years sooner than men do, and it throws the dynamic off (from the female point of view). Edit: The women that hover around the margin of 'acceptable' have a tougher time than the obviously good ones. It leads to a number of disappointed women, who are at the mercy of the 'good prospect' men they want at a time when those same men want and do play the field. The book 'Cheap Sex' has a chapter …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 01:44 AM
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No. Only the second point was about locus of control. I'm more into the boundary setting. Locus of control is about motivation. I'm talking about being able to, verbally and via action, inform people that an emergency on your part does not imply an obligation on mine. Setting good boundaries is key today. Even in the employment world, we have an 'Always on' mentality that is difficult to get away from. Taking it away from gender war, if there's a work emergency it is fine to extend a courtesy to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 04:42 PM
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I expect the lady to contribute in some way. If there isn't a backbreaking amount of housework to do I would certainly expect her to have and keep a job and work full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 04:38 PM
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The best thing to tell men and women is not to accept Responsibility for problems over which you had no Authority. And that ultimately you are responsible for your own happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 04:31 PM
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But this again is subjective. There is zero objectivity in these judgements. Or do you believe a higher power has deemed current Western culture to objectively be a "dumpster fire"? If not, it is a human judgement just as subjective as "red cars are best." Let's not pretend we are talking about the best color of cars. The topic was can Morality lead to comparative disadvantage to another society. Your position was Morals are tangential to societal well being, against the OP. Have I got this wron…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 04:16 PM
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I disagree with the very premise that objective "good" and "bad" exist at all. You don't need a concept of good and evil. Just a recognition that one outcome is better than another, that one situation is a dumpster fire and one is kind of OK. I know you can do this. I also do not believe that society will automatically collapse if it's not constantly growing. Not every society, but this society will. Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that needs constant growth. Constant growth is unsustainable. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 02:41 PM
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What a cuck this Jesus guy is!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 04:52 PM
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Was the family abandoned? Or were the parents unmarried? Single never-married mothers don't get any sympathy from me. They signed up for it. Married, abandoned families are comparatively rarer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 04:10 PM
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Sent their own way. ie Incel
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 04:35 PM
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Seems like the Gynocentric TRP. ie dating advice without the cushy language, and some satire/shock value stuff. The description of 'hating feminism' was always a misdiagnosis. It's the gynocentric focus men disliked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 03:20 PM
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My personal favorite was 'Pedophile' Chad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSq54f2JT_U
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:39 PM
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I think this is all the more sad because it's true. The idea you have a short window of time to decide where someone is going to slot into your life doesn't sit well with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:36 PM
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I can buy this interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:23 PM
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The debate can't really be won. Until you can explain human sexuality in its entirety with the precision of modern physics there are always questions. Nearly every 'gotcha' and personal anecdote that credits or discredits an idea does happen. The debate is more for illumination. You'll never be able to go 'TRP debunked!' or 'Redpill confirmed' with any real efficacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 01:59 PM
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The fact that you can say "thats a working system" means you either legitimately don't have a big picture view of the system, or it means you tacitly approve of these things happening. I would suspect the former. I don't approve of all things. And I do come at it from a Libertarian position, so assume those talking points. I assume you'd advocate changes that would conclude with the USA in the position of Venezuela. 'Collectivism Done Right', and such. Anything like that I oppose, especially sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:44 PM
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Oh, then my response is simple : cheating has nothing to do with masculinity. If a man cheats, you don't need to excuse it with "he's masculine, what do you expect?" You call the guy a douchebag and move on. Nothing to do with masculine or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:22 PM
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Anything non-productive. Dwindling returns apply to everything. At some point the most productive use of your time is self amusement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 07:50 PM
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The New Deal was a failure, both in its impact and its underlying principles. People were worse off than if FDR had done nothing. Collectivism fails as an ideology because Central Planning is ineffective. No one is able to decode how to best meet the needs of the many because needs are individual. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Individuals setting their own Price is the best known way to capture these preferences, and Capitalism is the best known way to use the Price System. Individu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 07:39 PM
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Is that not similar to responding to women complaining that their masculine man cheats with every skank around with "that's what masculine men do". Failing at communication is hardly tied with the voodoo of fashion, makeup, etc that 'feminine women' do in any kind of biological way. It might correlate currently, but I'd wager communication styles are trained. Same as dicks staying in pants isn't physically impossible when women wink at men. Might as well say something like 'feminine women can on…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 07:20 PM
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Moral is relative. Are they good clean Christian girls, proper for wife and marriage? Clearly no. Are they honest about themselves, what they are about, and how they see the dating market and sexuality? Yes. That's something I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 05:05 PM
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Atlas_B_Shruggin should read Brandon Sanderson's Stormlight Archive series. Reading and writing are feminine activities, men only fight. Though Sanderson is a huge SJW and it comes through in his writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 02:04 PM
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I don't think the reaction is regard to relationship sex, though I only stumbled into this discussion without reading the original. Maybe I got it wrong. I'm picturing a First Date, not really feeling it, never gonna see him again attitude. Followed by BJ because the parking meter is running low and the woman can't spare the time to say 'No'.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 08:56 PM
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It's the lingering delusion that sex acts are not just fun for fun's sake,or even transactional, but supposed to be mean something more. To embody a new level to the relationship. Not just "It takes five minutes to explain 'No' and two minutes to 'hoover' him. Oh well" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The difference between the body being a Temple vs a Playground.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 08:31 PM
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It's a case of Unintended Consequences, and the expectation that you can dictate what you want and have it, essentially via Fiat. It's the reason we use models to run experiments for climate predictions rather than extrapolating linear graphs. In the dating game, you need to let the other side play their pieces and react to their move. You can't simply dictate a 4-move 'Checkmate Atheists' game plan and expect it to work. Feminist orthodoxy is a Zapp Brannigan plan of atrocious pyrrhic victory. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 08:04 PM
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Bloops have just moved on to mocking men who didn’t get it in the first place instead. Feels accurate. There was a post recently lamented the lack of useful debate here. Well, if we all agree on what got men into the Red Pill in the first place, what is there to debate? What color shirt works best?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 05:28 PM
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Maybe it isn't. But bubble-wrap and lube is a thing, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:23 PM
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Similar to then doesn't mean 'then' was good. Any number below 2.1 and you aren't maintaining your population level. Lowering your population is usually bad, but especially when Social Security is a ponzi scheme. You need more population, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:19 PM
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If I were so genius that I could significantly advance human knowledge and accomplishment I would eschew sex and human connection altogether and focus on doing the aforementioned. If I were average, then yeah, I’d improve my looks first and foremost. Genuine question : For what purpose? When I read about genius's like Richard Feynman they describe their life as satisfying their curiosity. It isn't a desire to help people. That's incidental. Go watch the Rogan interview of Elon Musk. He describes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 09:51 PM
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It's a trope of the genre. Very few movies/stories that do the 'trading places' schtick swap 'brain chemistry' too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:37 PM
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The average people's interest for style, grooming and eloquence should be raised higher. This will cause people to be more picky towards those who make the effort. If male thirst had a ceiling Online Pornorgraphy would have a ceiling. But it doesn't seem to. It appears able to manufacture it's own demand. The more you watch, the more you want to find. I expect male thirst is the underlying principle. It would therefore have no limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:18 PM
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According to /u/kandyapplez , sexy people of the preferred gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 01:15 PM
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You can have a good life. You cannot have your best life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 01:08 PM
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Finally an etsy I'd buy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 07:26 PM
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The only ones that survived my culling have been Dalrock and TurdFlingingMonkey/HalseyNews.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 07:03 PM
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Frankly the few married men here come across as boring sexless robots who think life can be navigated by spreadsheets and transactions, and believe that once they get married they shouldn’t have to put in effort any more, because now it’s time to sit back and reap the spoils you’re entitled to cuz penis and paycheck. I don't disagree with your assessment but I associate that attitude with Blue Pill thinking. TRP in my experience emphasized that marriage isn't an entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 06:55 PM
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Wham, bam, thank you BAN
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 02:27 PM
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Purge was fun
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 02:23 PM
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Its a double standard I'm fine with, and I have little sympathy for guys who get beat up by their girlfriends unless they are mentally or physically ill. You can immobilize most women with little effort. Going to use Purge week rules to minimize your lived experience. Immobilizing a woman in defense is DV (by the man) under Duluth. Moving a woman out of the way to leave a room with a single exit is DV (by the man) under Duluth. Calling the police when your woman is attacking you causes the man t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 06:52 PM
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The right has the guns. The left has ... money to buy guns from China
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 05:36 PM
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I want a new drug
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 05:09 PM
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Not trying to contradict your point. Just an excuse to parody 'Do you want to build a snowman ' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-zXT5bIBM0
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 06:36 PM
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"Do you want to fuck a fattie?Cmon, or else you're gayyy I never see you with a whore, come out the closet door. Or MGTOW walk awayyy. We used to be Eskimo buddies, but now we're not. I wish you would tell me why.... Do you want to fuck a fattie... It doesn't have to be a fattie Edit: to the tune of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-zXT5bIBM0
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 06:23 PM
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It's ma'am! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOkdR7on6Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 05:32 PM
1

Congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 05:16 PM
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I think Chad abuses her emotionally and financially, mooching off her to live in her apartment rent free while soothing her with platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:55 PM
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why is this more accurate than the sidebar? Someone add this to the Wiki.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:32 PM
6

got em
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:30 PM
1

Have a good one. You too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:27 PM
1

I'm good. I'm just being a nitpicking nitwit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:24 PM
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As a masculine presenting Trans-lesbian I find your transphobia problematic, sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:23 PM
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Grade-A AMOG. You win the girl. You have three children and they all die of dysentery.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:16 PM
1

Is this "Two Lies and a Truth"? Or just three lies?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:09 PM
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Your scores: Masculine: Low (31) Feminine: Average (42) This makes you Undifferentiated-Androgynous. Cuckservative confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:06 PM
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All the women I've harassed on the streets have thanked me for the opportunity, with thunderous applause from the crowd. False implies q is True
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:01 PM
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I don't give a damn that freedom isn't safer or more productive. Incidentally though I think it is. A Free Market is more productive than Oligarchy, monopoly, or any other "ends in "-y system. I'm safer knowing the person next to me isn't likely to kill me for what I have, for reasons that he is barred from trying to work and get it himself. The US is the safest country from foreign powers on the world stage, for reasons of geography and military might. I'd rather be USA than Russia, China, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:56 PM
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Not that I know of ;) 🍆 💦 😜 This post not for under 🔞
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:49 PM
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because fundamentalism isn’t the only way to be religious I mean, I can't chastise you for this too hard because lots of people feel this way. But the reason I'm atheist when I used to be religious is because no, religion pretty much should be all or nothing. Either God hates theft, murder, AND gays, or the whole Bible is in error. Fix the Bible, or I'm out. But I've been accused of black and white thinking before. I'm out on a plea bargain deal (sold out the higher ups).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:30 PM
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Intelligence/education translate to always trying to learn more and having a passion to focus on + setting goals and achieving them. Passion and goals isn't intelligence and it isn't education. If people want personality to mean 'has goals' just say that. Don't try to make intelligence a virtue when it isn't ; Intelligence is a characteristic. You see the same problem when people try to say intelligence leads to Good people because, obviously, acting Good is rational. You can't get there from wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:04 PM
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(the joke is I posted this comment just after banging him) Quoted version is what "No Coffee" Me read. Almost spit my drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:54 PM
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Hard Patriarchy will 'work' in the sense that China works. It just won't be any fun for the men advocating hit. Soft Patriarchy is the 1950's USA. That's distinctly different from slavery and harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:49 PM
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The Moon
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:45 PM
2

Fuck the police. And I said it with authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:59 PM
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i lol'ed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:51 PM
1

She is Queen of Duckface
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:49 PM
1

This feels anatomically correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:48 PM
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upvoted for personal safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:44 PM
1

top kek
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:43 PM
1

This is real
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:02 PM
1

Oops. Sweden doesn't have nukes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 08:40 PM
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Sweden. That answer you're looking for is Sweden.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:57 PM
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You went Full Patriarchy. You never go Full Patriarchy. The Greatest Generation? That wasn't Full Patriarchy. Men in charge, yes, but harems and warlords? No. You never go full Patriarchy. You don't believe me, ask Iran.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:56 PM
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It's a comedy clip of a man at a kids birthday party, slapping everyone who comes up to him. a kid messes with his kid, so he slaps the bully. The bully's parent's come at him, they get a slap. So on down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:28 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aasPgW_LKl8
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:26 PM
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You have been made a mod of NorthKorea /r/Braincels
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:24 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9RVS8cjNN0
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:23 PM
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You have my condolences. Also to your inbox. I can't imagine the kind of DM's invited by your posting "I'm a HORNY LADY RIGHT NOW". Especially during incel week. F
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:18 PM
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I take it your date went well
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:02 PM
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https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5wWqxDx3wO0/TymxrrmuFaI/AAAAAAAAArw/JMFy6cAt8zw/s1600/Nathan-Fillion-reaction-gif.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:58 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY1FaZ19n64 My insulin is ready
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:39 PM
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Did you just dox BiggerD? /s mostly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:28 PM
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youtube playlist or GTFO
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:27 PM
2

Mass hysteria
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:24 PM
1

There's a Joker meme somewhere for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:21 PM
2

You's guy's sweetness is giving me diabeetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:19 PM
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Make Conspiracies Great Again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:16 PM
1

That surprise ending though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:13 PM
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I don't the trend is a failure of anyone in this forum. When PPD started TRP was still the 'movement to argue'. Now the internet has moved on. The word 'Incel' makes the news and causes hysteria. Pure Red vs Blue just isn't the hot topic. I also think /r/TheRedPill subreddit doesn't contain the relevent info. The term gynocentrism is more accurate than the TRP 'feeler' words used at the time, and is most often used in MGTOW forums. It's often said that TRP 'pickup' stuff is finished in a Post #M…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 03:16 PM
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Hell, I'm probably more authentically Red going by the standards 10y ago than most of the guys who wear that label today. It's turned into SERVE THE MALE IMPERATIVE OR YOU'RE A CUCK rather than any actual analysis or sensible information. I'd agree with this. I used to wear Purple but switched to Red for whatever it's worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 03:04 PM
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Had game but no legs oof
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:54 PM
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i wouldn't go out with a STEM guy of any race :Andrew Yang has left the chat
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 08:56 PM
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"What country are you from?" America "No, I mean originally" ...America.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 08:55 PM
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Oh jeezus
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 08:54 PM
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If she can't afford the kid, let it starve! Robot ninja test subjects aren't going to volunteer themselves. Enter Child Services and a few faked death certificates, we got ourselves a child army.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 05:47 PM
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If we are playing the biology card, there's no mechanism that siphons a man's time and money in nature. That's all law.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 05:31 PM
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I have it on authority that reading is gay. So Hemingway is not for TRP'ers, because they don't want sex with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 04:26 PM
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Damn dude, it's that bad there? What is the 'essentially a tax' rule?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:27 PM
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Fuckin' a. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUJRJAXolk4
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:25 PM
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You act like you are taking your toys and going home. That's literally what the term means though. They are going their own way. Taking your ball(s) and going home is the analogy used to explain their position.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:16 PM
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+1 for honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:14 PM
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MGTOW isn't the reddit sub. That's the lazy people. There's far more people subscribed on youtube than read the subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:09 PM
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Vincent Van Doughnut Fuck you. They're not in my city. They're hardly in any cities. And I want their donut.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:59 PM
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Your wife seems to be trying the line 'too real is too far'. So ask her if her pussy spins at 400 RPM. When she looks at you confused, show her the spinning robot pussy sex toy. If she objects to this you know her real motivation is control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:41 PM
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I'm not saying it didn't recover. But the people that die don't come back after order is restored.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:33 PM
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I'm suggesting the French Revolution was a collapse, which was the question. Collapse is not restricted to mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:05 PM
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"It's not a lie if you believe it."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 08:09 PM
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Batman done well should go unseen. Just saiyan.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 08:08 PM
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French Revolution is pretty damning. That's my mental image of collapse, besides Rome's literal decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:58 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqkT4B-9MGk
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:57 PM
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The better question is can you describe them? Forget their legacy. What was their favorite band? Did they have a recurring nightmare? What was their favorite memory? People expect their descendants to somehow keep their memory alive. But there's nothing important preserved. Just fluff and facts the person themselves doesn't care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:55 PM
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Check mate atheists Damn it, he's got us.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:43 PM
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I'd agree to this as regards the subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:35 PM
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He was also one of those "you need to accept the Red to reach the Blue" wackos. Like, he completely threw away the accepted meaning of terms so he could virtue signal while AMOG'ing. There's a certain kind of thinking there that's Blue, but it's a reversion to gynocentrism and seeking validation in women. Not an enlightenment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:33 PM
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It's the 80/20 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:07 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkfoLoq5KgE
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:05 PM
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I used to buy boston cremes. Now I get coffee rolls. Have I recovered my dignity?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:02 PM
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I have every confidence google and facebook perfect image search. When that happens the photo won't need to be similar. A good face shot will ID you. Hell, I think if you post a photo on a dummy account facebook will tag the person automatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 06:08 PM
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Even if it's true now, it won't be in the future. Internet is forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:54 PM
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Take the picture and post it into google image search. Let the nerds do the work for you. I'm not suggesting anyone do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:43 PM
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What if the trap is banging a real girl? Is it more gay, or less than straight porn? There's double the boobs as regular porn. But just as many dicks as straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:39 PM
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Got em
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:35 PM
3

In a nutshell
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:29 PM
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You're goddamn right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 04:08 PM
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Also I just got a free ticket Admit it you used your gun to get the ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:30 PM
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This is damn fine shit posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:41 PM
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"Make Women Great Again"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:41 PM
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Kind of funny term for a horrible aversion to mixed race relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:38 PM
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Mommy and daddy are going to let all their kids eat candy for breakfast and stay up as long as they want. They are going to laugh when the consequences catch you up in the morning, and might even suckerpunch you to rub it in. For real, moderators are not enforcing subreddit rules. People are going to be mean to each other. Some of it is good natured ribbing, haha. Some people are going to go for blood. Keep popcorn and therapy drugs handy at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:33 PM
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Live and learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 12:58 PM
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If she calls off the wedding due to cold feet, being a cheater, stuff like that. If it's 'her fault'. If it's him calling it off she can keep it. If it's a family heirloom ring she should accept some kind of exchange for the ring. It's a conditional gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 12:54 PM
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I'm not going to argue against trauma. Shit will mess you up. Is there evidence that porn makes men gay/cuckolds? I would think the being gay is causing the gay porn, not the other way around. Regarding prison, 'gay for the stay' is it's own issue. It's more an indictment of the prison system than anything else. In a pig farm, pigs are filthy animals. Given room to roam they are relatively clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:41 AM
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I've read a book that says men are much less plastic this way than women are. What you say is true of early adolescence or pre-puberty. But once men have a sexuality it is pretty much locked in. The fluidity you talk about is typical of women. Not all, but statistically those that are fluid will be women. The book "Cheap Sex" has a chapter on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:29 AM
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A blanket "women can't vote" rule is one I'd oppose. I am bothered that people receiving gov aid have the ability to vote for more aid. But good luck changing how it works. You can boycott, or accept it, or try changing it. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:23 AM
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I can remember BEING that hostile. Every once in a while that question of "You can send a 10 second message to your younger self, what do you say" comes up. I'd be like "PUA is mostly right. Get over it".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:12 AM
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Wooing women is different from making friends, especially with women. Because this is true men that want to maximize their romantic options must have some sense of their target demographic. It's less sociology than it is amateur marketing. Learning a bit from pop sociology doesn't hurt though, especially when there books written with these topics in mind. Sex sells right? It's not controversial when you tell a man or women they have more options when they work out, eat right and look good. It is…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 12:46 AM
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Damn my ignorance
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:58 PM
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There's an idea that comes from as far back as PUA communities : As far as time/effort in relationships, mediocre and hot women demand the same of the man. It's even been observed that the 5/10 is more demanding than the 8/10, for reasons. Taken at face value, why not go for the hot girl first? Never mind that you don't 'deserve' her. And if you buy the plate idea that TRP is selling, you can date all the girls that will have you. Then just pick your favorite.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:57 PM
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Got em
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:37 PM
1

Got em
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:30 PM
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The ghost of St. Theresa would like a word. Theresa was a cock hungry whore. https://www.amazon.com/Missionary-Position-Mother-Teresa-Practice/dp/B007SRM9MU/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:07 PM
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They spent all the money. Theirs, their parents, their kids, and their grand kids. And tell everyone to stand on their own, just like they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 06:50 PM
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To invoke the ever popular employer/employee relationship, if I don't need you why are you here?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 01:14 PM
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If you want kids, but don't want your genes to conquer the world then just have one. You'll have experience of raising kids while not contributing meaningfully to the overall gene pool. Eugenics achieved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 12:40 PM
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I actually believe this. The trick is the internal locus. The man's job remains to protect himself from a woman's acting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 09:44 PM
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For the 'big picture' view I try to source the books 'Cheap Sex' and 'Sex at Dawn'. 'Dataclysm' has some chapters on this topic as well (the source of the online dating 'Most men are below average' chart). I'd say those all support the 'Red' view as the 'trend towards'. Reality at the moment favors a blue pill woman's dating strategy. They really can find a good man to marry after dating around. Holding out for AF AND BB in one person is a viable strategy. This pisses off the moralizing RP peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 02:07 PM
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It's on PC and Mac. ​ https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/untitled-goose-game/home
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 12:20 AM
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Yes they do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&list=RDCLAK5uy_lf8okgl2ygD075nhnJVjlfhwp8NsUgEbs&index=8
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 10:34 PM
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oooh thank you! I bookmarked it. Will buy it once I have the money No problem. Also it's lovely of you to get it for your sister :D Kind of you to say. Anxiety is no joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 10:19 PM
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been there. totally worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 09:51 PM
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relaxing Untitled Goose Game
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 09:41 PM
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I feel like mentality changed from "being productive" to "having experiences". The pretty women I know say this explicitly. They want experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 09:41 PM
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I bought this for my sister a little ways back. https://www.amazon.com/Retrain-Your-Brain-Behavioral-Depression/dp/1623157803/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 09:39 PM
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Winners don't use, users don't win https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6SWN3_U910
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 09:24 PM
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Milton argues a similar point in favor of free speech. You'll never get as close to truth without arguing with an honest believer holding opposite views.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 09:19 PM
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welcome to /b/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 08:53 PM
1

A few takes on this. 1. People are gonna shit post on the internet. Pray for them, as they haven't reach enlightenment. The 'justifcation' is a warning sign to other men. Yes, you too are allowed to have standards. Many such posts are very thinly veiled shitposts though. Guilty pleasure, sometimes taken too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 04:08 PM
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Maybe my understanding of what "hedonism" is was wrong. No, I think if you use the word people expect your take on it. Lately I feel there's little middle ground between the extremes of chasing after meaning and chasing after pleasure. And it's very difficult (impossible?) to find meaning that means anything. So I need a response to a half-strawman conversation that goes like : "Why don't you do X? " It's not that fun. "But it has meaning! to your community/family/country" I don't get the same f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 06:51 PM
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Why is that a problem? A "cheeto eating basement dweller" People should "fix" themselves for THEMSELVES, not for a relationship sake. Because he will never fix himself for himself. He likes himself. He will only be motivated to change by want of relationships. What would "enlightened hedonism" be? There is probably a better term. Self-improvement done for benefit is still hedonism in my eyes, just obviously very different from hookers and cocaine. 'Cocaine off hooker's tits' I see as regular hed…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:50 PM
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The problem with this 'advice' is the cheeto eating basement dweller is happy, except with relationships. Obviously most people aren't that stereotype. However I don't think most people are as self-motivated as many here want to believe. I personally don't feel like a 'Type-A' personality naturally. These responses of "You should be doing EXCEPTIONAL_THING_A for your own sake!" are very alien. My perspective has shifted a bit though. I do seek enrichment. I just do it as a kind of enlightened he…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 04:46 PM
1

True. Women have their own problems to face in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 04:33 PM
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But it's entirely false to say a woman's overall worth is determined by her attractiveness. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 09:15 PM
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Sane RP guys aren't saying women shouldn't have self esteem outside of their sex appeal. But their SMV is high on the appeal she has to her guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 08:10 PM
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Great story. And agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:49 PM
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is essentially just prostitution. Lobbying. The term is lobbying, not bribery. And I mean this seriously. There are indeed lines to distinguish relationships and prostitution, just as with lobbying vs corruption. Despite the obvious similarities present.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:42 PM
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Well there's the man getting up to investigate in the night with nothing but his boxers and a baseball bat. Then there's women who have duty sex they just aren't feeling. Sounds like a trade to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:20 PM
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Thanks. This was a good thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 02:26 PM
1

I'll accept that copyright can't mix with "speech" regulation. I'll need to read up on the FCC and their authority for regulation. I must be wildly confused. It's not like speech is unregulated in radio, tv, etc. And broadcasters were required to carry a News show early in TV, against their wishes as condition of the license. But I'll drop the DMCA argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 02:10 PM
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forcing reddit to not censor speech on content grounds ... Is that what were talking about the gov using the commerce clause to do? Essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 01:26 PM
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Logic is outside emotion. I can program a computer to do math proofs. What you are talking about is what Enlightenment thinkers called Reason, which blends decision making with self knowledge including emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 12:07 PM
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The bill of rights is not extended to private institutions even via government subsidy. They can restrict speech, ban guns, etc Not automatically, agreed. I'm not saying what is, I'm suggesting change the law regulating sites like reddit. An easy justification is just to invoke Interstate Commerce Clause and boom : gov't can force web sites to do whatever. What I wrote above is a line of reasoning that doesn't abuse the Commerce Clause as a hand-waving justification. Libertarian types don't like…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 11:57 AM
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We got to this example down the chain; putting it here to answer you here: Universities are an example where accepting money imposes more regulation, and is not "an exemption supporting more exemption from laws". What quid pro quo did you make up, why and based on what? Exemption from copyright already carries a duty: the site must facilitate communication between the user and the copyright holder. I don't see it as violating principle to also impose other duties. In my case I'd like to impose f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:28 AM
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We agree it is not currently the law, yes. If it read like I thought this was current law my apologies. Not my intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:20 AM
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Do you mean they can't, in principle? Like, "by taking this money you agree to not ban speech", if that was made to be the condition? I'd be surprised. There's a chain of logic that makes private universities subject to fed regulations if they take public money. Private private schools get to do what they want. I no longer expect law to be sane though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:18 AM
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I'm aware. The reason for all the justification above is because reddit is a private corp. If my suggestions were made law and reddit wanted out they would just need to avoid the purview of the DMCA. Like farm subsidies, the DMCA is a web site subsidy. I'm just repurposing the Net Neutrality argument for telcos. If you happened to follow that discussion, in case my point isn't well written.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:13 AM
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Current law, yes. I didn't think you were asking what the current law requires. You said " why should they be forced to accommodate them? ", which I took as more open ended. People sometimes ask what justifies gov't intervention if the business is private. My comment is about that. And the distinction between platform/publisher isn't my own invention. That's how the DMCA works regarding copyright liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:56 AM
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I don't think this race discussion is profitable but I can't ignore calling Patrice a "token". Man has hours of radio rivaling Leykis regarding this kind of topic. And definitely from a black perspective, not "lilly white". I might concede your point overall, but not Patrice. If you want a token pick Donovan Sharp.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:49 AM
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The serious answer is that all web 2.0 sites (including reddit) operate under a special exception in copyright by the Digital Millenium Copyright Act that indemnifies the site against copyright claims (and damages) so long as they follow certain procedures. Youtube's 'strike' system is a byproduct of this. Without said protection, no sane person on earth could let users operate on a site like reddit. The site would be liable for every post that contained copyrighted content. Distribution damages…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:33 AM
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Unfortunately you can only know they were pretending when the act is dropped. But then I see many posts by women in this forum that say they do appreciate their man being kind only to them. So then I would call that guy a pretender, but she wouldn't? Or just wouldn't care? It can be very confusing to the uninitiated. But we are initiated, aren't we?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 11:48 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zCO4j4MrxE
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 11:32 PM
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Agreed, it's an easy proxy for the hard measurement. Accuracy not guaranteed, and you could end up ignoring a woman good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 11:24 PM
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If NASA is your thing I'm sure you'll get it if you are singularly focused. I just don't think humans can be happy with just one thing. The famous scientists we admire were pussy hounds, don't forget that. Einstein was a philanderer that the establishment kept hushed up for years. Feynman publicly. The Manhattan Project wasn't staffed with incels. Don't feel obliged to give up sex along the long. 'Different goals' doesn't have to mean 'only goals'.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 11:13 PM
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If you showed up at NASA offering to work for free, they'll find something for you to do. Right after they run the security and background check needed due to your erratic behavior (which you must pay for, because you aren't acting sane). You might get stuck being the janitor though. If you want something better you'll need to lay out your own money for an education if you want to engineer something. After a while you'll decide you need food to live and be forced to look elsewhere for employment…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 09:29 PM
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If your boss at work announced that hard work was it's own reward and workers shouldn't expect to be paid (and from now on won't be paid) are you staying at work? Or are you going where you are appreciated enough that you'll be paid to work hard. If somehow you are stuck and must work, are you going to work your hardest? Or are you going to put in the minimum to avoid punishment? That's the kind of thought I get when I read these 'sex is not a reward!!!' posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 07:56 PM
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False. I'm not going outlaw but I am asking the question "What's in it for me?". Great efforts for minor benefits ( "we won't shame you") do not cut the mustard. A lot of times the answer to "what would happen if everyone did it " is either "not much" or "people would have to pay for the things they want. boo hoo". To answer the quoted comment directly You mean women who have self-respect dont want to be considered men's trophies for good behavior. Imagine my shock! The trophy for good behavior …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 07:36 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZRqPPTNjE
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 04:45 PM
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This is a great description and conveys the point. I just don't assign this infinite value the way a lot of women seem want men to. Though it is terrible. This scenario is depicted in American History X, and is very difficult to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 04:37 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A5fQSiwAd4 Patrice vs Dr Z ​ And he talks about it with Ant in this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVijAWC0Vi0
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 08:30 PM
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The only source is New Zealand. People claiming it applies to the USA are extrapolating. No one has data directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 06:15 PM
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Every time I’ve asked for a source on that i don’t get one. Don’t suppose you have one? I believe this is the paper. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/roiw.12165News writeup https://www.victoria.ac.nz/news/2014/research-shows-disparity-between-tax-paid-by-women-and-men I would support a net tax payer system, though some safeguards would be required to prevent abuses. Someone doesn’t understand how taxes work. Individuals are not “net tax payers.” You pay into the system assuming it…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 05:54 PM
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The more grandiose tie this topic into the larger picture of the Fall of Western Civilization. The indicators are native birth rates and national debt. A very political right hand wringing. So it is possibly very important. The more likely of course is that it's just a bunch of loser men whining about being picked last for dodgeball sex. Civilization marches on and forgets the whole thing happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 12:19 AM
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If you talked to people in my life they probably wouldn't say that sex is front and center in my life. They'd point to all the other things I do in my day to day and week. And if I was there when they answered I'd explain that if you told me I'd never have access to a woman who wanted sex with me ever again in my life, I'd quit doing all the shit they think is my life's center. This shit's important. The other stuff isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 12:11 AM
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59 male stereotypes 72 female stereotypes 56 and 69 male and female aversarial
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 06:27 PM
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Cool beans.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:06 PM
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where Bling is buried. Bling is dead? Damn I actually like that word.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:27 PM
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No, but it also is useful to act as if it were. You can always be doing more to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:44 PM
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My condolences to your mother and you. Aren't the laws and enforcement much better today though, that this is much less a concern?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 01:54 PM
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The red pill issue is women want both the benefits of independence ( Her own job and money) and marriage (we share everything). You can construct a fair version of 'marriage' using business law : defined contributions and shared profits, where the Corp (marriage) owns the assets (kids and shared moneys). Very contract centric (Jewish marriages are similar to this). We don't have that. We have All-Or-Nothing. Women want 'Real Marriage'TM . So Women want the 'All' and TRP Men want the 'Nothing'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 01:46 PM
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Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 01:35 PM
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If that's the case then women might instead say 'Inspire' . Challenge sounds like conflict. Who wants conflict in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 11:47 PM
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Makes perfect sense See, this chain thinking makes no sense to me. Like, I get wanting to give your kids something. I don't follow at all how 'Not being Married' is a 'tearing down of everything I built'. tagging Littleknownfacts, as this comment is a reply to both. Like, this part here " So they can have more privilege and opportunities than I did. They won't get that if I'm not married to their father. " How does opportunity follow from marriage to the father? In my own mind once Religion isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 10:20 PM
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lack of evidence re: women having souls Men lack souls too! AMALT
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 06:48 PM
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I don't know why but this sentiment gives me a hearty chuckle. Maybe the untrammeled fury reminds me of the original Blue Pill posters. Anyway have an upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 01:32 PM
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The purpose of marriage isn't incredible and frequent sex, but rather to create a stable environment for the rearing of children. Gee, I just can't fathom why men don't seem all that keen to sign up in their 20's, 30's, and even 40's in some cases. Everyone knows how much men despise sex and love the rearing of children. the idea that marriage should be a source of undying sexual fulfillment is a peculiarly modern and incorrect viewpoint. The bible has several lines, particularly Paul's letter t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 07:19 PM
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Native Americans have high IQ's. Their live outcomes are the worst around. Welfare (or the need for it) is correlated with bad outcomes. My own guess is the IQ ceiling is genetic, where the realized IQ is harmed by poor diet, education, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 02:17 PM
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> Doing the right thing is suppose to be rewarding in a way you wouldn't expect Fantastic. You concede 'doing the right thing' should benefit the person. Try to understand then we don't want 'rewards in a way you wouldn't expect'. Defined benefits wanted. In a general sense, if men weren't influenced by sex I don't think women would like that world. Many men would just be anti-social in the clinical meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 02:24 PM
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I assumed you were talking the man's side. And my snide remark was that I have a double standard regards age differences. I'm certainly not putting my online dating Age filter at twice my own age. It's actually set lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:23 PM
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Upper Limit = Your Age, rounding down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:16 PM
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Every man wants to be admired and the most admirable men have it all (wife, children, house, influential career, social power) There are a number of men like this. I think they are the Type-A personality everyone will recognize. As someone who is NOT this Type-A person, I just don't relate to it. NAMALT, I know. For me, I think as a single person I be sated by a modest lifestyle. But with a family I might want to always improve theirs. So maybe what you wrote is still true, but not for the reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 02:14 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvPugcb7QGE
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 02:07 PM
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by increasing his status in his career and with his friends/colleagues This is some corporate rat race stuff. And, in my opinion, a sane man is doing this stuff to get the woman. He isn't getting the woman to look better to his boss and wear fancier suits. If he's got the girl already he doesn't need the status you say she brings him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 01:12 PM
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the REAL truth of AF/BB that i am more right about than the red pill is NOT that women chase UNATTRACTIVE men as "BB", but the men who have the traits to BE BB are able to sustain sufficient attraction in the honeymoon phase to land a girl and then default to beta'ing out once the feel secure and lose attraction This feels accurate. The only addendum is, often, the woman is the one who crafts the BB. She demands it. Maybe the guy only has 24 hours in a day and sacrifices his alpha for the beta, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 07:53 PM
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Devil's advocating the nihilist point of view to see if anything interested came about. You peed on the Existentialist 'meaning' argument and seem to be advocating the Hedonist view. Some people when they throw out "Just find cool experiences!" don't seem to intend Hedonism. Wanted to see your take.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 10:35 PM
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Precisely. Including experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 10:21 PM
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Option 2) is the Elon Musk warning of us "Summoning the Demon". Option 3) is the desired outcome. The book outlines how difficult getting there is. The basic outline of the book is that we don't know the first thing about engineering 'Safe AI'. And figuring out how to do so basically requires solving all of Philosophy, without questions. A remarkable (impossible?) task. The basic example given is a Pin factory, where the AI is tasked with maximizing production. An unconstrained AI might decide t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 09:34 PM
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Can't take those with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 09:13 PM
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no work from humans On that day the machines cut out the humans, not implement Basic Income. ​ https://www.amazon.com/Superintelligence-Dangers-Strategies-Nick-Bostrom/dp/0198739834/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 09:11 PM
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There were far less people then. The first berry gathered is the cheapest. Low number of nomads can survive on gathered berries. Cities need farms, and farms need workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 08:53 PM
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Your issue is with Thermodynamics and the need for calories. Your Boss isn't oppressing you; he is just last in line delivering the message of biology's demand for constant resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 08:49 PM
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Western Civilization is Best civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 08:41 PM
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Lot's of things are defined by tasks performed over small windows of time. An actor might perform 3 nights a week. Only the performance counts, no matter what else the theater group does together. Show promotions, rehearsal etc, are not anything the audience cares about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 06:08 PM
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she settled for me because of the money and lifestyle That part never bothered me. I knew it wasn't going to be my washboard abs that got a wife. I got/get triggered by the 'lifeplan'. I don't like the intentionality of the AF/BB schedule of mating. Not among men either. I can deal with epiphanies and repentance, even faked (to a degree). I'm bothered by the audacity of shouting the plan in advance, and callously executing it. It's something I have to get over. I should probably change my flair …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 01:45 PM
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It's going to depend on the woman. There's women who care and women who don't. Same as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 01:05 AM
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Men around here are very dramatic and pitiable. Guilty. Though if I said to a serious GF or wife "I used to chase girls like you, but when they were younger and prettier, and never keep one longer than it took to find the next. Now that I can't get away with that, I'm glad you're here." I don't expect I'd have a significant other after explaining myself like that. Edit: What I would actually expect is for the potential wife demand I explain how I regret those hound dog days, and be very convinci…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 11:26 PM
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Yeah. I think she is beyond the term Open Hypergamy. More like 'Flaunting'. Makes me want to just be blackpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 08:33 PM
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I agree Opt-Out has problems. But today I'm just after a Missouri Compromise. Let's keep Maryland in the Union before we go after Virginia. Raped: just assume the strongest possible Opt-Out clauses apply. Judges already say they feel their hands are tied by CS case law. Opt-Out case law gives them an out from this. Stolen by stranger could allow a fraud defense as sublimemongrel already said. And already acknowledges it could be unprovable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 05:58 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 05:33 PM
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Stolen Sperm : I'm Opt-Out with my GF. She keeps the sperm, and unknownst to me gives it to her friend. I have no Opt-Out form with this friend. Result-> I pay child support. Twin sister is let's say GF has a twin sister who tricks the man into sex. He has an Opt-Out with the GF but not the sister. Sister concieves. Result-> Man is paying child support. Bonus problem if the man brings up wanting an Opt-Out form with the GF's sister, "just in case". Friendly conversation starter if I ever heard o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 05:19 PM
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My way makes more sense to me, but I also don't see a huge practical difference. If your way was on the negotiating table, I'd take it. I don't need ideological purity if the situation is improved. Edit : Your way has a weird 'stolen sperm' problem in the cases where the man can't prove the sperm was stolen. A contrived example is the Twin Sister Switcharoo. Edit 2 : Also possibly a timing problem, where the fetus is conceived a day prior to the Opt-Out form. Is that child covered or excluded by…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 04:58 PM
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I agree Post-Sex is not the way to go. Women should have all the info they need beforehand. pre-sex waiver I would favor instead a pre-sex Permission form whereby the guy opts-in to paying child support rather than an Opt-Out. Sort of mirrors the marriage framework of opt-in alimony. Remove the assumption that child support is an automatic that just happens without intervention. But yes, we are far into the weeds. Policy debates are not legal debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 04:49 PM
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UBI Would you stipulate that all other 'welfare' aid end ie. ACA, medicare, unemployment? Would you stipulate the UBI doesn't increase/scale with children per household? If so, UBI doesn't increase the welfare paid out and will be voted down by the poor voters. If it is a net increase in welfare spending then I reject your proposal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 04:44 PM
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"punish" anyone Regardless of the goal it seems to have that effect. End of the day, the issues are more with politics than pure legal soundness. The law can be reworked so the woman, informed in a timely manner, knows she will get no help from the man. Detailed implementation figured later. Remove the incentive for bad behavior and the problem will be reduced. No worse than what happens now, at least. On some level, this problem affects every couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 04:37 PM
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Interesting. Makes sense. Things are rarely simple. Still, it seems to me the man's involvement wouldn't be 'primary', if that translates into legal-speak. He has no mitigating actions he can take while the lady has at least one. I am not a lawyer and don't play one on TV. Pinging the original writer that was quoted, in case there is anything useful to add. u/pnadlerlaw
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 04:09 PM
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This guy said it good https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/cr0of4/rp_ignores_science_when_they_say_women_trap_men/ex168vn?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x ​ Below is all quoted: http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/shavell/pdf/07-Shavell-Liability%20for%20Accidents-Hdbk%20of%20LE.pdf The party in a superior position to prevent harm is “strictly liable,” otherwise, a rule of “negligence” is appropriate. The answer to your original question is “no.” You place a sperm into an environme…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 01:47 PM
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Thanks for the link. I might have read that when it was originally posted too. I'm glad you got to tell him. Hopefully it helped him and you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 02:41 PM
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Your backstory would not be out of place in a Hideo Kojima plotline.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 01:49 PM
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Something I feel gets left out a lot nowadays on this forum is the fact that TRP is describing the 'Who's Left' group. Even if you assume the vast majority of women are not pulling AF/BB, if those same women are off the market TRP doesn't see them. It's also fact that anyone who ends up needing TRP is at best an AFC but most likely the Beta in the AF/BB equation. These together make AF/BB almost a foregone conclusion from the POV of the left over man. Almost by definition, any woman he dates has…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 11:47 AM
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well obviously no one is telling you to lift through an injury. Still you seem to know what you need to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 10:44 PM
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Is a man with the personality and opportunity to destroy the world a terrorist? Is an educated man with the personality to make money a rich person? If neither takes the actions, you have a good man and a poor man. What you do matters, and you can't play word games to claim some 'Just World' bullshit and make statements like 'his being born rich IS who he is', 'being a businessman IS who he is'. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when this topic comes up. There very clearly are lines to draw, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 09:28 PM
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More importantly this desire for unconditional affection is so foreign to me I don't agree with TRP's suggestion that Men have unconditional love for their women. It's just shouting 'Men Rule, Women drool!' That said, I do think that there are different kinds of love that men and women tend towards. Women's tends to be more practical and child focused; men tend toward providers. If a man won't provide for a woman it is tough to claim he's in love, while a woman not providing (food, shelter, etc)…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 09:03 PM
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You might benefit from a 'Dave Ramsay' approach to life fixing. If you aren't familiar with Dave Ramsay's approach to paying off debt, that might be towards the top of your to-do list. Essentially you should handle the things you know are a problem, and can be solved quickly. Even things that are long-term, if the Process can be started now then start. Out of shape? You can commit to working out now, and reap the benefits even if it's a year later. If you sat down you'd probably list out 5 thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 08:46 PM
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socially retard Getting over this helps a person universally. Religion not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 12:21 AM
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Nothing like living a lie if you want to ingratiate yourself to women!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 10:39 PM
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Children are a fixed cost, with a slight discount per child. Even big ticket items like college education will ultimately be borne by the kid via student loans. The desire for crazy amounts of money is for the woman, not her children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 01:28 PM
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Pure individualism (US culture) doesn't work either. I concede that. I don't have data, but I suspect the problem is exponential with the degree of collectivism. Meaning, you can have a little and not kill your economy. But the price goes up for every degree you increase socialism, and it quickly turns to garbage. But I see US culture way more socialist than it should be, as opposed to too free market. Profit is just greed https://adropofhemlock.wordpress.com/2017/11/18/profits-without-honor-par…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 03:29 PM
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You need to read Thomas Sowell and Jordan Peterson. Collectivism destroys society far quicker than greed. Blank slatism is false. Property is required for a working system. Pricing and money matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 02:03 PM
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I might be delusional, but I believe most man marry because he and the girl have a special bond. RP teaches that women essentially trick the man, fooling him into feeling a bond exists where none does. In light of this, I think very few men would marry or even have serious relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 01:48 PM
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CreightonWAbrams Control+F 'd looking for this post. Write that damn book.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 01:43 AM
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Right. The more specific the harder it is to apply general ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:33 PM
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Thanks! That's high praise round these parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 10:54 PM
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Don't be your child's friend. Your job is to parent. Don't have expectations on your child's success that you made no contribution to. Jesus doesn't real. Don't waste their trust on that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 10:24 PM
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The OP was asking women what kind of man they want their son to be, not how they would raise those sons to be that kind of man. Fair. That's a distinct difference. To push back with my original point a little, your linked post recognizes a quality you'd want the son to have; you then have a plan to instill that trait. You aren't declaring your son should have some trait while disparaging him if he can't develop it with no parental input. I look side-eyed at parents with expectations of their chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 10:17 PM
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Sorry if I ruined your joke/trap. Lot's of people are completely serious regarding your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 10:01 PM
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Damn near everybody? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 09:04 PM
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Based on these responses, I sure hope all these future Chad's never need advice on anything they can't figure out on their own. I get that no one should run their kid's sex life. But still man. There's some real "I'd have failed as a parent" vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 08:53 PM
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The 'boomer' slang for non-WW2 children is fine to use in discord or whatever, but here you are only going to confuse people regarding what you actually mean. Since 'Actual Boomers' do come up occasionally, you are going to spend time explaining yourself when you try to make an actual point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 03:25 PM
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nihilistic view of it An aside; my thinking definitely accepts facts that can lead to nihilism. I do make an attempt to battle that philosophy, as Nietzche would have wanted. That's another thing that made Peterson interesting when I was actively searching out his stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 12:27 AM
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I'm going to respectfully disagree regarding Peterson. I concede he does say you'll benefit : he claims you find meaning, maybe some spillover effects, etc. So he isn't claiming you get Nothing. But the benefits are not guaranteed. There's no contract, there's nothing even there to ensure you will have gains. It's a kind of wishy-washy promise that leaves a bad taste. It's the difference between a Direct Effect and Indirect. For the Responsibility he wants you to assume I would demand very Direc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 12:24 AM
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Jordan Peterson I get what you are saying. When I first read through TRP I used Patrice as a guide, to keep a feel of what's "too far". I watched Jordan Peterson a while to see what he's about, and he has good points. More when he's talking politics, but still mostly good. TradCons fail when they blindly advocate, as Peterson does, for Responsibility without Benefit. Patrice never would have made this mistake. MGTOW content at least gets this point right. They don't advocate blind Responsibility…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 11:48 PM
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I'm a fan of Patrice O'neal. We live in a Post-MeToo world. Like Rollerskate Diners and drive-in movies, that era is done. PUA is finished, and a lot of 'Black Philip' advice does fall into that bucket unfortunately. The audacity of some women is on another level, and it only takes running into one. Patrice was for the destruction of women, if needed, for the purpose of the man's happiness. Women now strike back with the destruction of man, via social media and law-fare. Milquetoast Mark Manson,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 11:33 PM
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Not being able to get a woman is being broke. Choosing to be single is something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 10:03 PM
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It's important to give credit to Blues : They do actually advise settling the question of dating early on. Blue advice can help a Nice Guy step up. Red vs Blue has other fish to fry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 09:28 PM
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Here's a suggestion : How about you do no training for the sake of career advancement. If a good job comes along, congratulations. If you you die broke and a bachelor, congratulations. /s I foresee a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 09:07 PM
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A dude looking for True Love arguably should hold out for the astronomy chick. But outside the minority of astronomy graduate students, women who talk stars typically mean Horoscopes. If that dude wants to meet someone, I'd suggest leading with topics that actually interest the cute women he wants to date. Put astronomy as a secondary want. As per your example of opium addicted Chinamen, women can set their standards however they like. Eventually you'll find that match. Overall, these are exampl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 02:23 PM
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Lol, you can't tell me there isn't an implication there. It at least strongly implies it, and the user base definitely enforces strict adherence to their philosophy. The mods used to be way more strict about that in the past, as far as I can remember. I'll concede that. It feels worse than it was when I was actively reading /TheRedPill. Too many TradCon ideas today, too many 'morals' as opposed to amoral tools. I also don't operate in broad generalizations, because when you aren't personally dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 05:10 PM
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I feel no pressure to uphold that gender role or to conform to the rigid expectations that I have seen coming from TRP. TRP just communicates the gender role women are asking for. It isn't promoting roles in any categorical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 04:50 PM
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Just because sex was his highlight it doesn't mean he didn't have fun during the rest of it. Think of it like a hangover. When I was more into 'going out', the night itself was fun but in the morning having nothing to show for it kind of ruined the experience. I'd regret not having done something useful. Having nothing to show for the effort to go out just felt bad. The good nights make up for the bad. Doesn't change the way 'failure' nights feel. Many of my friends were into PUA stuff, so maybe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 04:26 PM
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Chick strategy is the guy projecting what he wants from a girl, and then trying to be that to attract her. He wants someone kind, caring, sweet. So he'll do romantic stuff, lopsided favors, etc, and then wonder why no girl wants him. He missed the part about being masculine ( as women define it). He's the gender flipped version of the career woman stereotype who thinks her income makes her more fuckable than her 20yo cheerleading alternative..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 03:58 PM
1

Yeah, that train has sailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 03:50 PM
1

Good luck. Sciatic is no joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 02:10 AM
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Congrats to her and you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 02:07 AM
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Attractive would be a fine word, except men assume it means 'physically attractive' aka Looks. Whereas women seem to use attractive as holistic 'desirability'. It's the difference between SMP value and RMP value. Unless you start every conversation with precise definition of terms, the wonky but well accepted (in pillsphere) term 'alpha' works. People generally seem to understand what it is you are aiming at. Then the argument can go in the direction of discussing what contributes ie looks? mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 02:00 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow0lr63y4Mw
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 02:55 PM
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Riding the Church Carousel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 02:43 PM
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It is definitely irrational. Unless you believe attractive people are just better people in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 07:28 PM
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Fuckin saved
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 02:21 PM
1

Well I'll concede your original point. Men make it our business to brag about the most trivial feats.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 02:23 AM
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You jest, but if childbirth tech was at the level that a woman took no part, it would be a revolutionary breakthrough such as the world has never seen. Not least of which might be practical 'Seed' ships, spreading humanity through the bleak cosmos. Wild times.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:22 AM
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here are actual occultists out in the world and that's their faith, their religion. Are you just saying people have religion and it's wacky? Because I don't give my priests and rabbi's any credence either. Have your people demonstrate something to the Amazing Randi and cash his check. Otherwise why buy into them instead of the local social club religion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:17 AM
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I like using 'Purple Pill' to describe someone with Red pill knowledge having Blue Pill goals. That these are incompatible is left for the PP'er to accept. It's a person with an unfinished worldview. The cognitive dissonance is entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 02:26 PM
2

I suspect, but cannot prove, that many are sleeping with the enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 08:51 PM
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You are conflating causes. Technological progress is tangential to ... everything you wrote. You are basically just saying 'woman good, men bad'. Despite your explicit disclaimer. The best analogy to this topic is probably Bonobos and chimps. Bonobos might be more peaceful, but chimps are just better across the board at surviving nature's perils. You are promoting bonobos as a model for humans. Your approach is to disarm rather than allow the possibility of tragedy. And as a result remove the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 09:22 PM
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I know my husband has never murdered anyone Can't be proved. You only "don't know if he has". Pedantic, but you actually can't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 01:26 AM
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Show me the police report or it didn't happen. That's where we are at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 12:55 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:49 PM
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As long as we are throwing away tradition let me try my hand at a Lady's life plan. Between 18 and 22, pick an Alpha and make a baby. The child will be raised by Grandpa and Grandma (mother's side). Chad has no expectations and no financial obligations. Any involvement is at the whim of the mother. Maybe government stipend to make up for the father's lack of obligation. Take a sabatical from college during the early years, complete the degree only a little after same year peers. Purpose : One ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 10:05 PM
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Living your best life then
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 02:20 PM
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http://www.bitrebels.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/swing-on-ecuador-cliff-1.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 04:34 AM
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I think it's the kind of nice, and not just niceness. You can be nice, but you also must be very clear you are interested in romance. And be willing to cut off your attention if she isn't receptive. Be willing to be the bad guy in her story, and very few women will actually paint your behavior as bad. Something that had an effect on me when I read it was Mark Manson's observation : The behavior where you try to please everyone prevents you from getting the attention of any woman. You must be wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 03:25 PM
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Maybe if she fucks townies. The phrase 'It's a small world' exists for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 06:25 PM
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Exaggeration for effect. One is enough, if its the wrong one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 06:24 PM
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How many factors in at some point. Who has a bigger impact, definitely. Also when. Like, who fucked who 20 years ago is going to stop mattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 06:14 PM
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Well I’d say if you’re being good as a means to an end then that in itself is not goodness I've concluded 'Good' behavior is a shortcut, no thinking method to achieve optimized outcomes for the Group. In a working society that should translate to good outcomes to the individual, which is the only reason to be a member of said group. It's a very 'tide raising all boats' situation. I've concluded this fails in ways important to me. How do you contend with 'Good for goodness sake' when all morals a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 05:34 PM
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I accept that your attitude has to be adopted, if for no other reason than no women are 'pristine'. However, the quoted part here bears some respect as well. How hard is it to understand that intimacy with one woman is seriously infringed if the whole village already have been inside her vagina? That intimacy and exclusivity are intertwined? Now, the more I like someone the more tolerant of the Village situation I might be. Generally I don't want to be at a cocktail party where half the men have…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 04:16 PM
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Well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 03:30 PM
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If the same behavior is causing the same results maybe it’s time to analyze why. Part of that is realizing 'Goodness' is tangential to success, and evaluating how much you value what 'Goodness' actually buys you in your (non-sexual) relationships with other people. I think the major change for me was to stop regarding 'Goodness' as an end in-and-of-iteself, and to start regarding those behaviors as a means to ends. A lot of cruft falls away. You might find it useful to read philosophy as regards…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 02:50 PM
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But Atlas put it best in the last thread - all of this cross-gender talk is ruining sexual dynamics If the very act of talking about something ruins it then something is majorly wrong with that thing. It's like " All this talk about bubbles is ruining the housing market". If your home value plummets because people realize there's a bubble, then it should.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 09:09 PM
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Being good is the bare minimum Go read anything posted by kandyapplez for the past day. Being good is not a minimum. It's not considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 07:09 PM
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If 'being good' prevents getting laid then men will stop being good.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 05:00 PM
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most normal brained ppl can observe social trends And for those that fall through the cracks there's manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 02:56 PM
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TRP uses it's 'Endorsed Member' tag for this purpose. Not quite government, I admit. Granted if you only read PPD there's not going to be any certified anything. I barely know if I'm red or purple.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 02:55 PM
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This response, and the reaction reaction, encapsulates a lot of what goes on in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 01:11 AM
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Fair point. I recall hearing widows largely escape the statistical negatives, so there's merit there. Still tough to work and raise a kid alone, unless/until a new man takes his place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 02:21 AM
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Kids are their own person. Not sure if your post is all hypthetical, so forgive my callousness if not, but the decision to make kids is heavy and should maybe be decided with the kid's outcome in mind. Choosing to be a single mom statistically is a negative effect on that kid's life. Still, what you do is up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 08:38 PM
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Kids aren't legacy, and they aren't the person who dies. When that person is gone, he's gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 08:19 PM
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How long would you take that deal if you had to do a convincing job of 'enthusiastic sex'? No limp dick moments for you, no viagra, and if the old bag feels unconvinced you take that eviction notice and like it. Oh, and if your landlord ever finds out you used to bang hot chicks in their 20's? You betrayer! How dare you enjoy Cancun foam pool parties! You never truly loved trading sex for rent! Evicted!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 05:21 PM
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The appeal is simple : self reliance. Having an income of her own frees the woman in myriad ways. Ever work a shit job, unable to leave? Woman don't want that 'shit job' to be her relationship. Having her own income is like a man having a large nestegg. He's free to take jobs he likes, quit when he isn't feeling it, and opt to do no work at all if he so chooses. That's how women feel an income frees them in relationships. Men might feel similar if they had to fuck an old lady landlord to pay the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:13 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_%281946%29 This is my favorite "power of men" example. Push too far and the manipulator learns what power small groups have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 03:56 PM
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The FSM awareness might be the single best contribution PPD has made to my understanding of this whole relationships topic. It Occam's Razor's a lot of things that certain RP people try to demonize. I might be so bold to claim it humanizes women where RP "knowledge" (doubt quotes intentional) castigates female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 03:33 PM
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It's worth pointing out that some men will use their wife as an excuse, blaming her for why he can't do something. Meanwhile, he just wants to stay home himself. "Sorry boys, can't go out drinking all night. You know, the old ball and chain at home, maybe next time". This way he can do whatever chores need doing, netflix and chill the wife, and go to bed early with minimal loss of 'street cred'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 02:53 PM
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become an hero It's an old meme, sir, but it checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 02:37 PM
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Atlas broke it down already, but the important part for me is : Red Pill awareness gives you knowledge about the SMP, even if the prescribed techniques are dated. PUA had it's time; RP may have seen it's heyday pass also. RP knowledge isn't irrelevant though. It forms the basis for the other reactionary Pills ie. black, mgtow, etc. If anything, it became boring due to winning the mental landscape. As another user pointed out, it was never that original and it's core isn't offensive. The edge lor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 02:16 PM
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Not advice, but don't you think by that point you'd be in 'cheaper to keep her' territory?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 01:35 AM
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Someone can only truly be your friend after anal. Otherwise aren't they just an acquaintance? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 01:32 AM
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True. They also aren't doing anything to stop it. Not really. Dan Crenshaw, who is a new star, his big plan is to give free money to people by letting them loot Social Security before others do. Not really what I have voting republican to mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 10:25 AM
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Upvoted and agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 02:50 PM
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We no longer have a fiscally conservative major party. No one has the balls to cut government spending. This is what makes me feel black pill regarding politics. I have no party.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 02:34 PM
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It's a holdover from old courting rituals. Maybe it's learned from TV. The guy knows he isn't the pinnacle of human attraction. But he figures, I'll lead with my good parts. He gives her a free sample of his boyfriend-like qualities, and if she accepts, he thinks he's done step 1 in courting. He's wrong but he doesn't know it. Maybe she realizes what's happening, maybe she doesn't. sublimemongrel has an interesting point in this topic. Boyz and girlz make friends differently. From the POV of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 01:55 PM
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No problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 03:21 AM
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I’m like very personal moral project oriented right now You might enjoy this book. https://www.amazon.com/How-Found-Freedom-Unfree-World-ebook-dp-B00M20I134/dp/B00M20I134/ref=mt_kindle?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid= It's been a while, but I recall the main point was to drop 'social morals' and adopt personal virtues. Supporting why you should do this and some benefits is covered in detail. ​ Regarding the bigger question "Why we don't see the other's point of view": I think we assume the other wants wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 03:11 AM
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There's a reason that 'preacher's daughter' and Catholic girls have the reputation they do. It's not because growing up in such a home correlates with 'Women are Wonderful' expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 02:58 AM
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Somewhere floating around is a study that 'demonstrates' that 70k/year is the 'optimal' salary for a happy life, which news articles use to bash people into believing that's the optimal work/life balance. Now, it could be right. However, when you read the study it simply presents you their data. Happiness increases unbounded with money, just with a sharp drop in the rate of increase at the point around 70k/year. I imagine a similar lesson stands regarding sex. Less is not more. More is more. Wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:24 PM
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First point : Marriage self selects men who are happier, healthier, etc. Second : A few years of good marriage followed by a lifetime of divorced misery does not benefit the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 01:59 PM
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My impression has been that women don't claim what you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 02:59 AM
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This is a personal 'Grinds my gears', and is barely on topic, but it seems common in relationships - Don't try to hold me accountable to expectations you made up. Do hold me accountable to goals/standards I've set myself. It's an elaboration of "Don't Nag" . Applies to any person however, not just LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 12:23 AM
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Game is real. It isn't a silver bullet. Women's attraction is composed of your personality, and looks, and other things. 'Game' as usually talked about ends up a vague term for 'everything but looks; fake it if you need to'. With internal game, external game, day game night game, social circle game : the term became meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:52 PM
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It's part of middle class morality. Feminists redefined what 'Baseline morality' meant, as evidenced by anyone declaring 'Nice is the baseline'. The mistake made is the belief that Dateable status sits on top of the Baseline Morality. ​ So the conclusion is Step 1 is to be the model man as seen by feminists. Step 2 is become Dateable. The model is wrong, of course, but that takes experience to learn. By which point time has built bad habits to unlearn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:41 PM
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I think it was about inhowfar emotion fueled cooperation while its absence underminded it. There are several surveys that show only economic students act in the way described by economics ; people's 'natural' learned behavior is much more altruistic. See the book "Misbehaving: The Making of Behavioral Economics" by richard thaler. A book more directly about emotion's role in behavior is "The Origin of Virtue" by Matt Ridley. A bit dry at points but good nonetheless. Essentially, evolution decide…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 01:32 PM
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I don't think we disagree too much. perhaps definition of terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 08:34 PM
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I would phrase it as emotions informing what you value, but sure. But the final calculus uses logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 08:28 PM
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I am definitely in the camp of emotion having no part in rationality. "Reason" is the concept that blends logic and emotion. Emotion and logic are tools for decision making. Emotions are fast but often wrong. If emotions always led to the optimal outcome they would be regarded as rational. They don't. So they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 08:07 PM
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Fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 07:39 PM
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TRP and MGTOW are going to agree on many, many of their premises. They know what women do and don't bring to the table. TRP'ers might not be aware of the full legal quagmire, but many are. The real difference is how much they value the things women do offer. And what they are willing to give up for it. Value is always subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:48 PM
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Including men bitching about divorce rape, which is not that common. I'm almost certain 'divorce rape' is a california and spanish law state phenomena. Not that it can't happen elsewhere but it is remarkably rarer. It's the difference in what counts as family assets, and the equitable versus equal split of said assets. And California has crazy alimony laws. ​ Marriage can still award 'cash and prizes', but in a much milder way via Child support in place of out and out rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 02:14 PM
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Whole bundle of sticks gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 06:04 PM
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Zero
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 03:36 PM
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It's just another example of middle class morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 02:38 PM
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Always triple a woman's claimed N to account for AutoMod
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 07:17 PM
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Hope it all works for the best And as much as I hate to disappoint the RP contingent, my experience over the past couple of months is that a woman who's almost 40 doesn't really have a hard time dating. The hardest Red Pill is there isn't any karmic victory to have. Men have no leverage to negotiate the deal. There's only the deal she offers and walking away. And there's always someone willing to take her offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 06:31 PM
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This highlights a big difference between real friends and fake girl friends. For the record, women can be real friends but let's run through the story with a dude instead. This guy wins the tickets. Invites his guy friend to go with him, all expenses paid. No problems so far. Then this guy musters his courage and surprise! He's got a hot date with a coworker he's been eyeing some time now. If he calls up his boy and tells the exact story above, what do you expect the guy friend to say? "Congratu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/19 06:54 PM
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Asshole in guy speak = Bad person, avoid him. Asshole in girl speak = Not giving her what she wants, when she wants it. The guy in question can still be a good dude all around
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/19 06:43 PM
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Maybe he's an asshole. Let's go with that. This guy has two ways to play this: 1) Be a Nice guy friend. Result -> No Date 2) Be an Asshole . Result -> Hot date. ​ Hence, women date assholes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/19 06:22 PM
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Stunning and brave transgenders, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 12:55 AM
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Amen. So many problems with good intentions, it's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 12:43 AM
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Are you trying to label people with their 'percentage alpha' or something? Nobody is all anything. And breaking it down into nitty gritty often doesn't offer much insight, in my experience. What I wrote before is actionable FROM THE MAN's PERSPECTIVE. Is she with you for something you do for her? She sees you as Beta. Is she happy just to be spending her time with you ? She sees you as Alpha. Sort the women in your life as you see fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:56 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:41 PM
1

Alpha - She fucks for the pleasure of your company. Beta - She fucks for what you can provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:27 PM
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It's a good book. One critique is he buys into 'history has a direction' idea too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 08:36 PM
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RP, blackpill, MGOTW, does the same mistake for all women. MGTOW done well is a little more nuanced. The claim is not women are broken; the legal system is. MGTOW's advice is avoid any legal entanglement with women. This protects you from bad actors; no need to avoid women if they can't bludgeon you with the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 06:39 PM
1

I've gotten soft as I age. If I read something sad or see a sad movie, I'll feel tears. Used to be a stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 05:00 PM
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Purple Pill men are trying to use Red Pill knowledge for Blue Pill goals. Best description I ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 04:59 PM
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What else you gonna do?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 11:23 PM
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When I was delusional, I knew what was attractive. I just saw it as one way to get your foot in the door, so to speak. Eventually you realize attractive is the thing. It's not the foot in the door; it's the whole damn room. A room, by the way, you bring and she inspects. Cue looking for insight on what contributes ( is it looks? Money? status?).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 09:13 PM
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I've made statements before that men and women's 'mutual benefit' in marriage diverge as both get older. A fair deal to both in their 20's becomes lopsided (towards the woman, my opinion) as 30's/40's go on. Much of my thinking would need to change for me to consider mid 30's marriage as fair to both. Cohabiting would be the default offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 09:01 PM
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Yup. I am glad we were all here to share the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:57 PM
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Thanks. I have never heard that word, and so have no experience to put it in a context. The simple definition mislead me. I for real read your post as 'Lying is good'. Which is not unheard of, but I rarely see it described as 'moral'. Words are hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:44 PM
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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/prevarication Is my dictionary broken? Am I broken? I read it says to tell lies. "to speak falsely or misleadingly; deliberately misstate or create an incorrect impression; lie" Again, there could be a context here I'm missing. Or you could have typo'd. Edit: Merriam Webster has a nice explanation. Not hearing the word prior to this, this gives it some context. Prevaricate and its synonyms "lie" and "equivocate" all refer to playing fast and loose with the truth…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:34 PM
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lack of prevarication Nothing puritan about not liking lies, in my opinion. Unless you take prevaricating to connote only white lies done for amusement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:17 PM
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Nice isn't something you can market, as it is defined by its absence. You will notice a lack of nice, but someone can't demonstrate niceness except through long periods of knowing him/her. When after years of interacting with that person you have a moment where you think : this person is always looking after the people around them, always doing little things like checking that everyone made it home alright, always is the one opens their home to gatherings. That's nice. I refuse this rebranding o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 05:17 PM
1

Extinction
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 02:53 PM
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Fun chat. Especially for this place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 01:26 AM
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By creating more wealth overall, and importantly, the 'worse off' are still able to have more buying power than if a free market wasn't around. They may not be rich, but they are richer than they would be. And richer than a communistic economic collapse. For details, a good read is Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 01:15 PM
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No ideas about cognition from me. If you crack that nut go make your billions. Just try to avoid Robot Genocide as a favor to the rest of us please. With evolution I try to remember that when you encounter unlikelyhood, if it didn't happen that way we wouldn't be here to wonder how something so crazy went right for us. That said, I like the idea that Earth was colonized by Martian microbes originally. It shortens the time needed to go from literal lifeless rock to evolutionary wonderbugs. Makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 05:05 AM
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I'm not trying to downplay the changes that do happen but only emphasize the kind of changes that they are. Your total view of the world and universe can shift. But this is due to the impact of small differences in fundamental theory. The curved Earth is a perfect example. The difference in the curve from flat is tiny and hard to measure. But the implications are completely and obviously different. Like Newton to Relativity. When going slow, Einstein's formulas reduce to Newton's. The difference…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 04:26 AM
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That's a fun idea. One I like is the idea that the arrow of time is driven by entropy and could reverse in some weird conditions. Reading through it it seems mostly debunked, but there's literally a universe of possible weirdness that just needs to be discovered. I've heard it said that quantum mechanics makes more sense as a quirky computer program than a universe obeying laws!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 04:11 AM
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While there's no reason in principle that all our theories won't be overturned, it has never happened. Contrast with history, there are plenty of 'Fall of Rome' scenarios where 'Progress' (however defined) reverted to barbarism. I bet strongly against Whig theory, but not against Asimov.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 09:18 PM
2

amen
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:48 PM
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https://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/RelativityofWrong.htm Science progresses as refinement. Newton's theories are as valid today as they were hundreds of years ago, just with a few refinements at the margins that don't matter until you get going very very fast. Nothing we do now is nonsense. Just our margins for error hide useful insights from us.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:31 PM
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This is like claiming William Shakespeare didn't actually write all those plays. But they were written by the same person, at roughly the time claimed, by a person we all agree to call 'William Shakespeare'. It could be it was all written by aliens and the plays never were performed. It's not relevant. I don't actually care about Shakespeare the person. I care about his effects, and choose to call the source Shakespeare. You can argue if he is REALLY real all you want. In all the ways that matte…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:25 PM
3

There's a great description of science by Isaac Asimov that paraphrases something like : "Science is wrong and incomplete but not in the way some people think. We are learning new things all the time, which paints a better picture, but it isn't that we are going to be surprised to find that the world is actually flat or the earth doesn't revolve around the Sun afterall. "It is more like our picture of the world becomes sharper. Missing pieces offer more refinement, but don't fundamentally change…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:21 PM
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I'm sure there is a very simple way to explain that genes, as we now know them, exist in DNA. Since I am not a trained biologist I don't have it handy. We have known of inheritance since the days of Gregor Mendel, who discovered many traits go to children in 'batches'. As well as Dominant and Recessive traits. How they were found in DNA, and how they work in detail, is available to anyone interested enough to read. While there is plenty of unknown still, I'm certain the statement "genes don't ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 07:58 PM
1

I have seen their effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 07:39 PM
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I am also an entity anti-realist, A superficial review of this (wikipedia) reads like so much BS. And since genes exist I'm going to continue in my assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 07:33 PM
2

Political theorists call it Horseshoe Theory, where extremists on all sides all look the same. It also lets them put their black sheep into their opponents camp. It's pretty difficult to defend against, when you get down to basic tenets. I'm come across another framing that puts the ideologies into a triangle instead of Left-Right, which in my opinion is more sensible than mainstream stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=430ELEIFhQk
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 06:03 PM
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Even then, it's better than the alternatives. Even for the losers. See the case for sweatshops being good for developing nations, even today.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 05:59 PM
2

Lots of these kids are going into the industry looking for the pure meritocracy they heard about. They don't WANT to believe people skills are needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 02:19 PM
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Agreed. Writing software requires a mindset that is distinctly 'weird'. Not necessarily difficult, but the task is specifying explicit instructions to a device that behaves autistically. The task selects for those who can think that strange way. The overlap with people who can normie is going to be smaller than the general population. And those who are more naturally in sync will be drawn to it. Other jobs are detail oriented but not to this extreme. Or better said, not in this specifically extr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 01:54 PM
2

Free market is good for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 01:23 PM
1

Because we listened to feminists. "If it feels good, do it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 01:21 PM
0

My wording here was intentional, and covers your response. Men may not get their first pick, but among the group WILLING to date them, they do get their favorite. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stable_marriage_problem
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 01:05 PM
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I would just refrain from saying this matters as an intellectual exercise or for any pragmatic purposes. Often the people who get deep into such trivial topics are exactly the ones you want around when something serious pops up : the same thought process is needed for the serious problem, and the trivial topic provides practice when the stakes are low. Your mileage may vary, Void where Prohibited.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 05:09 PM
1

If a woman wants to go on a date, no criteria : she will find a date. The odds are good but the goods might be odd. In this sense women are dramatically advantaged. She will never have a dry spell that isn't almost entirely of her choosing. Men, on the other hand, have the advantage of only going after women they want to. Very rarely does a man have to fight off unwanted approaches, which is something women envy. If a man is dating a woman she is likely his favorite woman whom he can get. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 05:00 PM
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Depending on circumstance, there may not be any decent girls in your regular hobbies. So if you keep doing your favorite things, you won't find anyone. Try developing an interest in something where women do participate. Volleyball, running clubs, death metal. These activities don't have to be your favorites, but you should see yourself learning to at least enjoy one. Depending on your interests, you may have to sacrifice maximum joy in hobbies for dating. Notice I'm not saying drop your favorite…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 04:33 PM
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Good point. One way I try to think of it is, providership is there for peace of mind. Like insurance. You never want to use it, but it gives the feeling of security that wouldn't otherwise be there. No one wants to be a passenger in a road trip with an uninsured driver. Same as women don't want to date broke men, even if (they claim) they don't expect to be provided for. Even though eventually you in fact will be expected to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 01:49 PM
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If a woman wants to be taken care of, like my car, don't be upset if she gets traded in. Like a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 09:45 PM
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Fair enough. I sub to Sargon of Akkad, so my feelings on Brexit colored by that. Hope everything ends well for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 05:14 PM
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Funny you say that. By all news related reports I've seen, the UK is very much worse regards to the 'gender war'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 05:04 PM
1

Not being a parent myself, I can't say firsthand. I have heard that costs go up with age. The government puts out a report every few years with the breakdown, broken down by class. Poor spend less, rich spend more, but the average is about 250k. Here's an article written based on 2017. https://smartasset.com/retirement/the-average-cost-of-raising-a-child Tracking down the original report is somewhat aggravating right now, it isn't popping up easily. Here's an online calculator people can use, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 01:58 PM
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250K per child to get to 18. With a discount for more kids, to about 540k for 3. Dollars in net present value, so you'll pay more over time due to inflation. ​ This is according to numbers I read by Bryan Kaplan, who sourced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 01:29 PM
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Yeah. Even calling whatever it is we males are doing a 'social matrix' just doesn't feel right to me. Like, if there is a bigger thing, it's invisible to me. It's would be like a secret deadswitch doomsday device. Keeping it secret defeats the purpose!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 01:35 AM
1

If you ever contact this person please invite them up to go bowling. No preamble, first contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 01:19 AM
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Yeah, 1 percent is really high. Skydiving deaths are 1 in 125,000, and lots of people's wouldn't risk that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 01:18 AM
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I got a good chuckle reading this. bravo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 01:09 AM
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Where are you getting this 10% number from? I suspect he's misconstrued a stat. I think there's a factoid that 10% of SUSPICIOUS fathers found one of their children wasn't his. It's a bit of bad stats to infer 10 percent of ALL children are from cucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 01:06 AM
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All of these count for something, though obviously there are different weights. N-count is a proxy measure, but is not the thing. There are Christian 'virgins' who do everything but PIV. Should we call that N-count 0? Is that really what is trying to be captured? Obviously no. It's level of promiscuity. We could discuss whether anyone should care about promiscuity. But a woman who does the things above a lot is promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 02:17 PM
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No. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 01:58 PM
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read it. It wasn't very good, or at least felt comical to today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:27 PM
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I agree. Throwing them a bone on the draft thing. MRM is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 02:35 PM
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Literally almost nothing. Recently it was ruled drafting women is possible. That's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 01:44 PM
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The way I was raised primed me to be anti-abortion. But I see this with two minds. Mind one : Either it is murder, or it is not. Simple. Ban murder if it is. Mind two: If some mother wants to murder her kids I just don't care anymore. They wouldn't have raised them right anyway. Let them live with the guilt, if they have any. ​ End of the day I support a woman's choice to murder her unborn child.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 01:11 PM
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But you've never seen someone be rewarded for being a good person? No. People pay lip service, yes, but wait for when the rubber has to meet pavement. Then the attitude is "what have you done for me lately?".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 06:25 PM
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Aging isn't time passing, it's decay. Experience and wisdom are good things but you can pass time without getting those. Aging is guaranteed though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 06:00 PM
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I saw other users brought up Maslow after I posted. So I've nothing further to add, unfortunately. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:19 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs See the row with 'Intimate relationships' aka SEX. It's in the category of mental health, which is less 'basic' than the physical you list.And being in the middle on the road to the top of pyramid. Some people are able to skip it on their way to Self Actualization, but those are the outliers. Odds are any man you find doing the stuff at the top while skipping Sex is not going to feel 'Self Actualized'.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 05:02 PM
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Either way, women take an arm and a leg. Ba dum tish. ​ I'll see my self out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 04:52 PM
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Both are shallow. At least looks are something the man is and not something he has. Half way prostitution isn't a good look, from where I sit. Your mileage may vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 04:13 PM
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I'd go for this if it was both ladies together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 12:57 PM
1

financial autonomy never has been I think the historical birth of feminism shows you wrong. And in a broader sense, right to your own property is as fundamental as body autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 10:58 AM
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Why they do it is a mystery to men. The reasons are laid out above.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:23 PM
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For the record, I care about homemade cupcakes. They just taste better! I also make them myself so there is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 02:03 PM
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This is insightful, and something that wouldn't be obvious to every man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 01:58 PM
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If both contribute equal money (not hours at work) to the household income, equal chore time is only fair. Note the term household. So money you spend on yourself isn't part of the calculus. If the division of chores can't be agreed upon, hire handymen and maids and put it in the household expenses. Be prepared to split the household bills equally. If neither partner can be made happy, call it quits.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 01:36 PM
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Catholic family confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 02:39 PM
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All men have the potential to leave a woman to fend for herself and/or her children without him even after careful vetting, fueled by alcohol or gambling or any number of vices. Not saying all men do this, but all men could. So take adequate precautions. AMALT!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 12:58 PM
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It seems to be equivalent to the 'NPC' meme. Was 'NPC' banned here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 02:22 AM
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RP men advocate doing this We point it out to clueless men who didn't think women did this. We point it out to men who hate when other men do this, and made promises to themselves they never would. Show these men that women's 'hypergamy' is no longer some wacko conspiracy theory BS, but talked about amongst women at presentations for posterity, and they might listen. ​ Why exactly is it so wrong to want different things at different points in your life? It's not the wanting of different things t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 06:01 PM
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Sounds like something a robot would say...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 08:37 PM
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How very Red Pill of you to say. I dispute your claim that it isn't an accomplishment though. Earning a stripe on your belt in a martial art is still an accomplishment. You being purple belt doesn't diminish that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 04:16 PM
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Penises are also not built for 24/7 sex. News at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 07:44 PM
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It's only money. You can always make more. Money is time. And time is life. Why waste a life overpaying?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 02:43 PM
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Sexual success is a basic darwinian measure of success. Which is as close to objectively 'good' as you'll find, outside religious thinking. To dissociate it with intrinsic value feels overly dismissive. The other stuff is good too, but let's not pretend sex is nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 03:07 PM
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Because many men believe Christian women are an exception, or are more likely to be. That searching in this mine will strike gold more often. Pointing out Christians particularly is a medicine they need, and won't like.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/19 02:22 PM
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And if these women are just employing the back burner plan to have their fun with the bad boys now and settle down when the fun is done, that is also in contradiction to their faith, and the church should not turn a blind eye to this behavior. Who hurt you? /s
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/19 02:20 PM
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Has doctor been promoted to title? It's a licensed profession, like lawyer. Is lawyer a title too? edit: I suppose it is, as a bit of historical accident. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_(title) Still, for the purpose of this conversation, the academic title doesn't strike me as relevant. Just a bit of old world cruft.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 05:11 PM
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Doctor is who you are regardless of the doing. If you aren't writing 'Occupation: Doctor' in your taxes, you are not a doctor. You can be a Once and Future Doctor. Just not current.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 05:05 PM
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Unconditional love is a red herring. Men and women love differently, and many men weren't expecting this. Greeks used different words for the different kind of love. Here's a vid about this with relevance to the Pill discussion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iukY27Erzbk
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 04:51 PM
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Anyone with enough spare cash for a standard deck has enough to cure their inceldom. That said the meta is pretty diverse right now. A good way to scratch that itch is the free to play version Magic Arena. https://magic.wizards.com/en/mtgarena I'm enjoying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:59 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:48 PM
1

For this thought experiment the change is permanent So much for learning Anything-Goes Martial Arts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 09:32 PM
1

There's some data that supports your position. In the book 'Dataclysm' the author puts forward marriages where the couple act as a 'glue' between two different groups of people; this type of marriage predicts stability. The idea being that both people in the marriage benefit from access to the other person's associates, and neither really inserts themselves into the other group as an individual. Only as a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 12:56 PM
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Men aren't going to 'rape' their women on the off chance they are into it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4hNaFkbZYU
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:14 PM
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In a true orbiter relationship, the guy is giving a 'free sample' of his boyfriend qualities. He goes above and beyond normal friendships. It isn't always or usually malice on her part, but it is naive of her to accept the attention without him taking it as encouragement that there is some kind of 'courting' going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:33 PM
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This exactly. I tried to write this but yours is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 11:20 PM
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Bit of a tangent, but I wonder if women think the 'secure' part of guyness is easier than being hot. A lot of conversation seems to revolve around finding the hot/fun guitarist and adding in a dose of Corporate Ladder Climbing. There is challenge in both, but I wonder if women think men who sacrifice to build a career are doing it for the pure joy they find in it. I mean, everyone got to pay bills but its comparatively simple to do the minimum for employment. To a guy who felt they were taking t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 11:16 PM
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No. I have criteria for a mother. If someone meets those, I'd consider children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:38 PM
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HONK HONK http://www.newson6.com/story/34240493/ok-man-ordered-to-pay-child-support-despite-not-being-father
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/04/19 04:10 PM
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Flying Spaghetti Matrix Female Social Monster
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 06:23 PM
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Doesn't mean they aren't after you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 06:11 PM
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The trick, of course, is getting the man on board with the plan. Which requires catering to his needs/wants as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:29 PM
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In a functioning society the two are aligned, even if imperfectly. Shitty men will always clamor that they are really the good men that society should cater to. And since a lot of things are subjective here, the argument will not end. There will always be winners, and losers to whine. I do think there are some objective figures you can track : National debt and citizen birth rates. If those look like trouble, people should figure out why.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:24 PM
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Wait until she has a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:30 PM
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"Trust, but verify" applies here. I've also heard it said that 'habit is trust', meaning if you keep a steady schedule and break it alarm bells go off that you need to be considerate of. I always liked the reframing of Trust not as a faith you have, but as a description of a relation with security ramifications: A trusted person is someone who can betray you. If they don't have any valuable info on you they aren't trusted. The idea being to limit trust sensibly, but also recognize where you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:54 AM
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Was only able to find a post from an incel reddit. It contains the meat of his journey. hope it isn't considered too much an affront on the rules. https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/4df4iq/i_dont_understand_why_my_life_is_so_different/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:35 AM
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There's a user who was the poster boy for this and spoke up a lot about it. I don't think pinging him here would be appreciated, as he seems to be staying away deliberately. I'll try to wrangle up a link to his old stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:13 AM
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I think there's an amount an churn for aquaintances/friends that people typically expect when they hand out this advice that introverts don't expect. We want to make our friends, then have them for as long as possible. So we can stop putting in the effort of going out like extroverts. We don't expect friendship entropy, and we don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:12 AM
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The fact that someone can post this while keeping a blue flair and a straight face is why I changed my flair to Red. ​ Men CAN do this as dating strategy. Lying in one area of life tends to discredit you when you intend to be truthful elsewhere though. I imagine a man who is open about lying to FWB's will find his friends less likely to take him at his word. We might disagree, but your position is weakened by the fact that you can't notice the opportunities that you miss out on; these are invisi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 01:57 PM
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I am less concerned with marital property, though there are 'gotchas' involved with pre-marital investments that can mingle them. I am under the impression that 'child support' is inflated to function instead as crypto-alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 03:26 PM
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I have no issue with divorce as a concept. The issue is, under common conditions, divorce is a way for a woman to torch their kid's future while collecting cash and prizes at the expense of the man on the way out. That is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 02:28 PM
2

Thanks. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:09 AM
1

Now that is somewhat interesting. I would agree, if we are talking about our die hard PUA types. On the other hand, there is a type that you could call Red Pill aware. These types are more the disappointed Beta who get clued in late in life. They've been reared to be good husbands. Do you think this group is necessarily also broken as husbands? Does simple refusal to see modern marriage as a 'good deal' disqualify the otherwise fine man as Husband Material?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:02 AM
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Rather than go in circles, like these always seem to, I'll just say this. None of those benefits will convince a Red Pill man that marriage is a good deal, in theory or practice. Unless you really want to break things down for the umpteenth time let's agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:56 PM
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Put your money in a trust then. The number one way wealth is squandered so children never see it is the widow spends it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:48 PM
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Because women are willing to hold good relations hostage until they get the bling. And other men, who otherwise could be unworthy, are seen as worth it if they'll marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:47 PM
1

benefits Would you mind illuminating us ignorant bachelors?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:42 PM
5

Patrice O'Neil gave a breakdown of his Top 5 priorities in life, after his girlfriend got mad she wasn't his number 1. It went something like Me My career My mom My dogs My girl And she only got to being number 5 by being a true soldier in his life. And he told her not to expect to move up by outliving the others, because their memory will always hold that spot.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/03/19 02:30 PM
2

The bar for mgtow is very low. All you need is the conviction to avoid marriage. Everything else it optional. MGTOW can have girlfriends, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 03:04 PM
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The funny thing is watching these claims being made to those of us who have lurked here for years. We watched the tactics change in real time. Gaslighting really is the word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:54 PM
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I fear the frustrating answer might be both sides cannot find a middle ground. Women are right to demand financial commitment for starting a family. Men are right to demand less be asked of them. But you really can't give less in a family situation. ​ If 20's marriage is a game where men and women both benefit, mid thirties seems very 'Winner Take All'. And in Winner Take All games, the most powerful player wins. So there is no point in the weaker player to participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 09:21 PM
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Not saying I don't approve. It cuts out the subjective stuff. ​ I had a question more relevant to your point. I know this subject gets discussed to death so don't feel obligated to respond but : when is it 'fair' for a woman to demand marriage? assuming a relationship, obviously. First I will point out that if the men and women marry relatively early they both get most of their sexual gameplan fulfilled. I think that's a fair deal. More relevant to me personally, is the middle period. After earl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 08:52 PM
2

almost none of them get the different gameplay styles necessary to succeed biologically as a female. /r/Outside is leaking
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 08:12 PM
1

So what I'm getting from this is you think established, rich men should be released into the wild to pursue hot women. Aren't they already? And isn't this simply the flipped version of hot women partying in their 20's? If one is 'allowed' then both. Now if neither were ... but we don't live in that world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 07:42 PM
3

So when are you and Atlas going to start a GoFundMe to write that book?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 04:58 PM
2

To get political, it is similar to UBI. Sure, enough to live a basic life sounds like a nice thing. Until you realize the janitors and food servers of the world are happy skateboarding and playing in 'the band' until they 'make it, man'. Terrence Popp has a video showing/claiming that single dudes can live a full, happy life on 23K a year. In the US. Married men with families need at least 3 times the money for the same level of happiness. How much economic growth is stimulated by the desire to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 11:50 PM
1

Is death do us apart mean to be taken literally? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 10:52 PM
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Because once you stop believing them about one thing, dismissing their campaigning about another issue becomes a lot easier. Precisely this. The political stage brought to light how frivolous the #MeToo accusations can be. The effect ripples downward for all accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 08:58 PM
20

Forget the details of Kavanaugh. For men, the question really has turned to "Did this really happen?". Men are now saying "Show me the police report", and if one wasn't filed you can watch the sympathy drain from their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 03:13 PM
1

I read his book. It's actually very good. He uses pornography as a club to bash men a bit. Beyond that it's pretty fair. A little dry of a read though. It makes a few points that aren't brought up very well in this forum. Edit: The most original argument for this forum is the book points out that the 80/20 rule applies to both genders. It is the 20% women sexing the 20% men, both having the 80% of hookups with each other. He doesn't call it this, but the Wall hits women in their early 30's. So t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:59 PM
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False allegations were weaponized politically. Kavanaugh is a good example. That turns the question from "What can we do to stop this?" to "Did this really happen?"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:19 PM
1

I think this is a succinct way to make the point. I may start saying I ignore inequality but hate injustice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 06:32 PM
2

He looks like a man that would wife a pornstar.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 06:20 PM
4

I've come to accept that it isn't prostitution. More like lobbying. There's still a line between ethical lobbying and corruption though. And 'corrupt' dating deserves to be called out.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/03/19 06:15 PM
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I'm reminded of the story line in 'Preacher' of the agent who gets his dick chopped off by the mob. It culminates in a classic line to a woman in love with him. Something like, 'To be together, you have to be willing to peg me with a swordfish so I can get off. Can you do that?'. I remember her running away. Hilarious. This woman faces the same challenge I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 06:12 PM
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The kind of thinking that creates this 'disrepected man' is still being pushed in conservative circles. https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2019/03/13/no-respect-for-men-who-marry/ ​ that's why, even if this story is fiction, it can still be taught as an example. A sort of Aesop Fable for modern man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/03/19 04:14 PM
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That doesn't refute my point. Of course they aren't diamonds. But wombs have scarcity, unless you think there are infinite women. Marginal utility applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 03:23 PM
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Wikipedia can't be wrong? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_value
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 04:29 PM
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This is the 'diamond vs water' paradox in economics, written large socially. Diamonds are valuable (or gold, if you prefer). But do nothing essential. Water is cheap, but needed for life. Why is gold precious and water cheap? The solution is marginal utility. The first gallon of water is precious because it is used to support life. The last gallon is cheap because there's so much of it, I can flush my toilet with it. And price is determined by the marginal value, not the first. Same for 'womb' v…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 02:44 PM
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At least one woman disagrees. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqx_ULumHK0
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:55 PM
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​ The most directly 'moral' question is, what if all women are like her? What happens? We saw the other day that women don't like men treating sex as a reward for good behavior. But sex is one of the largest motivating factors for men. The question becomes if sex is free, does society suffer? And if so should women be held 'morally' accountable. Whatever that might mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:34 PM
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There are a handful of definitions floating around, It varies by topic. I think the sidebar has links to 'working definitions' regarding this sub. In a larger sense, Alpha is contextual to the activity. You could talk about the Alpha at work, who leads the project and imbues people around him with enthusiasm. To the degree this nets status and respect from women who might want to fuck him, there's carryover into this topic. For this forum, Alpha is closer to what you wrote. If he inspires women …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 12:57 AM
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Off-topic and all, but your posts in this thread and others are much better than a year ago. Whatever you are doing to grow as a person, keep it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 12:53 AM
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Most times people try to foist responsibility on you with no benefit. ​ Responsibility is something to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 05:16 PM
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Rare but not zero. In the context of the average dude it is an example of a kind of woman you want to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 03:24 PM
1

I understand it. Hell, I've been tempted to try it. In a game theory way, it's perfectly ok. As you said, conning the conman. In a personal integrity way, it compromises something though. That whole 'say what you mean, mean what you say'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 03:18 PM
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Not advocating it but there have been discussions. ​ https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/is-marcos-evil-for-conning-women-looking-to-trade-sex-for-financial-security/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 09:40 PM
1

Women can choose to sport fuck. They have that option.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 05:09 PM
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Tried once is one thing. ​ Denies liking it, then I discover a video with her smiling as it happens is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 04:12 PM
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Then I'll take you at your word. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:09 PM
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There are monopolies. Few and far between and they are (usually) regulated. And the only ones that are problematic are things like water and electric, termed 'natural monopolies'. Amazon is not a problem, for example. Take your money to Walmart or best buy. prices for goods and services have no arbitrary element because it is all logical and rational and such. Because markets. Despite the snark, mostly yes. Not all logical/rational. Subjective value is part of the mix as well. Price approximates…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 06:54 PM
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Hard work contributes, but isn't the final arbiter. The point is under capitalism you can always take your money elsewhere. Choice makes it fair. Lack of compulsion under threat of violence is as close to a definition of 'morally good' as you'll find in economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 06:29 PM
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This is way off base. Merit is, ultimately, dictated by reality. Something works or it doesn't. And your ability to make it work determines 'merit'. ​ A salesman can either sell or can't. A company either succeeds of fails. ​ I really don't comprehend this stance of 'merit is subjective'.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 06:27 PM
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Compared to almost anything else? Yes, almost by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 06:22 PM
2

Capitalism may not be a brotherhood, but it is merit based.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 06:20 PM
1

Diamond industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 03:09 PM
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It's worth pointing out you aren't contradicting his point. You are simply explaining where that money is going.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:56 PM
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A minor quibble that turned into minutia.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 08:43 PM
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Again, I must be having a hard time communicating my point. Or my point could be completely wrong, but your post isn't arguing it. I'm not saying there aren't changes that can't be made that would make dangerous workplaces safer. Safer, yes, but not safe. I will grant you any regulations, employee training, and employer spending you want to implement. People will still die at these jobs. Underwater welders are going to sometimes drown. Roofers will fall off ladders, electricians will get electro…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 08:34 PM
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Feminists are not running those companies that are cutting safety corners and undermining workers rights. I think you've misunderstood my point. There's only so much you can do to ensure safety at dangerous jobs. There's always an inherent risk. A risk which has little to do with what people are doing or not doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 03:41 PM
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You can take every precaution but some jobs have risks inherent to the work. Electricians get electricuted despite precautions. Fishermen, etc. And everyone has a bad day where their attention span is off. An office worked can never get themselves killed at work, despite some serious attempts otherwise. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 01:40 PM
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Ramone! Bring me a woman with an inflated ego!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 07:18 AM
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I think it is a lack of self-awareness combined with an inability to state the problem properly. Like, I wouldn't want a girl that's been with thousands of men. That feels icky. Apologies to any current or former prostitutes reading this. For the high but not impossible, say 20 and above, the problem is an ego/social one. No guy wants to be in his friend group where he's the caboose on the train of guys that have been through his girl. Especially if he's putting in relationship work and the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 01:14 PM
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There is one way of thinking besides 'Let's get cancer' that makes sense, if they were trying to dodge a specific bullet but failed in execution. There's a political 'law' that says any organization that isn't specifically Right becomes Left. I can imagine a thought process where going 'over the top' on misogyny would act as their filter for the Left. It's been repeated over and over, by posters in this very sub, that the purpose of the locker room language is to filter out unwanted people. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:58 PM
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The Mods and ECs of TRP thought they were being clever taking on the mantle of Witch “misogynist” and encouraging the fempire to call them that, and by so doing increase their subs. This is astute and summarizes the problem with TRP. I've seen too many examples of this IRL. And of it blowing up in people's faces. You exaggerate and then are surprised people believe you. ​ It's what makes the truth so powerful. As long as you stay honest this Witch problem can never happen. Not with intellectuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:03 PM
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Well put. To add my two cents: A major reason I've lurked a while and even posted some is that the Blue's here do have RP knowledge and bring a perspective that Reds don't often see. There's a core truth to RP perspectives, compared to naive approaches to dating. However, TRP reds allow themselves to get carried away. Like Greek Philosophers waxing poetic about such things as the fall speed of feathers vs rocks, they take their lived experience beyond reason and into the realm of nonsense. Many …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 05:20 AM
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Either don't bring it up, refuse to volunteer info, or be honest. ​ Lying compromises your integrity. You do yourself harm, since if the lie is discovered any past statement you made is now in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 09:41 PM
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Dating also sucks when you realize the end game for most men is getting the mommywifebangmaid. They don't want to get married, they don't want kids or a family, they want a perma-gf who cleans and gives sex daily until he dies and asks nothing of him while he's working on the hobby-truck in the garage or playing videogames. That's their ideal "adulthood," and one thing a woman doesn't realize until later is that very rarely does it include any responsibilities towards other people, including her…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:36 PM
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couverture https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/couverture I for one welcome our chocolate covered Overlords
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 02:59 PM
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save the wife.easy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 05:41 PM
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Nagging is for tasks a man hasn't tasked for himself. If he did set it for himself, it is just holding him accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 04:51 PM
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I was somewhat afraid your response was going to be "cope".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 07:43 PM
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You sound like a parent with sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 05:24 PM
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But if you treat your kids like it’s 1977 and tell them to play outside and threaten them when the bickering gets out of hand and use them as a source of free labor, then it can actually be a lot of fun. https://insider.foxnews.com/2015/06/14/florida-parents-charged-felony-neglect-after-11-year-old-son-plays-backyard-90-minutes https://www.parenting.com/blogs/show-and-tell/brian-parentingcom/texas-mom-arrested-letting-children-play-outside
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 05:14 PM
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It's only 'deserved' in the sense we get the Congress we deserve : she chose the abusive men. Just because she didn't like the outcome doesn't mean she didn't earn the result. In the larger sense, the attitude is a way to oust your inner white knight. If some woman tells a tale of being abused but "you're such a good guy, let's date", men might see that as an opportunity. To show what how good they can be in a relationship, etc. But if you realize she brought it on herself by her choices, the sy…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 11:22 PM
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For a man going from 'no female attention' to 'only the slutty assholes want me' is a huge step up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 03:20 PM
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This exposes a fault line between some of us here. 12k contributed from each parent would be 24k per year, time 18 years = 432,000 USD Even if only dad's 12k is used (mom 'pays' by raising the kid) 12k times 18 years is 216k, which is only slightly lower than the estimated 250k to raise a kid from 0 to 18years old. Which is ridiculous when it supposes only the man is responsible to pay for the raising of a kid. That 400k number is just as ridiculous for how high it is. It seems plain that Child …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 08:25 PM
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A softer more understanding Red, but more convinced. If that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:52 PM
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I dislike the cavalier and flippant tone, but like the simple truth of this post. Have your upvote. I also dislike the lack the condemnation of such abuse, which is why i'm triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 04:20 PM
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You can call out your friends at work when they make a sexist comment, neither of these things hurt you in anyway I've literally seen this happen where the white knight escalated his point nearly to fisticuffs. It turned into a wrestling event, where the only reason the white knight wasn't pummeled was the benevolence of the same friend he was fighting. You underestimate the seriousness a man might take your suggestion. Stopping at a comment is ineffective, and men aren't joining your cause to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 04:16 PM
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precisely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:30 PM
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I like a challenge. What do you mean by challenge? I only see women write about that, and its always vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:29 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 06:06 PM
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Is there an article or book that would explain this position reasonably well, to non-military people? I too have my own half-baked ideas, but would be interested in reading more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 05:06 PM
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I won't argue the meaning of happiness. I will share an article I found as food for thought. https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/topic/happiness/definition
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 04:58 PM
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pleasure which translates to happiness That is a philosophical, or perhaps empirical, question. Take that question to a buddhist and he'll talk you an earful on the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 04:11 PM
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That's pretty amusing. I'm glad RP awareness is translating into better schoolwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 07:45 PM
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It's worth pointing out that it is often suggested to date within your social circle. The unstated assumption is that social circle != friends. The meaning is more like your extended circle. Like if Sally knows Shirley is single, she'll get invites out. The mistake can come from the man trying to woo Shirley by bringing her into his friend group (direct social circle). Naively he is trying to impress her and decide when/if to move forward. He doesn't know he's running down the window of opportun…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 07:44 PM
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To the people writing this should all be common sense: the above post encapsulates one of the biggest lessons from RP for me. In RP I read it explained this way : Women have two buckets, one for friends and one for romance. It is rare to move a guy from friend to romance. Guys aren't as strict and happily move attractive friends to romantic partners. Finding a woman who's company you enjoy as a friend and a girlfriend is kind of the point of dating right? And of the two, the friend part is more …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:22 PM
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Hmm, it does look out of place. Oops.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 10:11 PM
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First: majority of everyone in US makes under 100k/year. Advice tailored only for them is a pretty good starting point. Second: Divorce settlements are a percentage. Now, it isn't quite the same hardship as sleeping in your car, but being knocked a rung or two off the SES ladder stings for anyone. Lastly: If marriage is only workable for elites then the institution is finished. Any societal good intended to come from it is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 09:13 PM
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Here's a link to risk of death by various activities. http://www.besthealthdegrees.com/health-risks/ I found plenty with much better odds than 15% that I wouldn't risk death for. Why would I risk divorce rape? Now, if DINK's divorce the odds are good for 'No Rape'. But marriage is for having kids. And divorce with kids is how the man gets raped. TL;DR: 15% is too high if divorce rape is on the table. Soft divorce probably ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 07:05 PM
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That is correct. Other's have written similar. RP helps get your foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 05:37 PM
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I have a different tack. If I had unlimited time, I might choose to be thoughtful for every stranger. I don't, so I restrict my efforts to my friends. If I'm going to spend time though, I'll choose the most profit. Hence, my friends might see a drop in thoughtfulness as I focus on whomever I date. Yes, I'm chasing reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 05:14 PM
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You know, I really wish it was, I really do. Why do you think it's not worth bragging over? You're talking about it right now and I'm applauding you. I don't see a downside to being proud of behaviors like this. They're 100% pro-social and inspire people to behave similarly. There's an idea in business that you get more of what you measure, but what you measure isn't always what you wanted. Men want sex. A relationship full of gestures but no sex is not a relationship worth having, to the man. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 04:57 PM
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I believe you. OP setup the most textbook case of 'divorce rape' ever. Then insists the woman is screwed over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:39 PM
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That doctor gets taken to the cleaners in family court. That's the reality as I understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:12 PM
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He’s a doctor, so he gets a good lawyer and finagles his way out of alimony and child support. El. Oh. El.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:58 PM
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The complaints are from childless men that would want children, under the right conditions. Whether the complaining will do any good, and what the odds are those conditions will be met aren't related. I see it as a response to calls to 'man up'. And then the response is labeled complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:47 PM
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my mom is a saint. But she has awalt'y behaviors and encouraged the same in my female family.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:52 PM
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She's an ugly, gorgeous bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 03:34 PM
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I used to disdain smalltalk, of any kind. Somewhat similar to your intensity idea. I would do it, but my heart wasn't in it. Intensity alone isn't a turn off, but it can blind you. The boring parts of socializing are important to build rapport and bring down peoples guard. Men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 03:05 PM
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be respectful and courteous so she always feels comfortable One of the biggest factors, in my opinion. Also the desire to be liked by everyone is harmful. Lukewarm to everyone does not a fire start.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:54 PM
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I came to the idea of divorce rape, but not the name, through mainstream pop culture. No manosphere required. Just like no manosphere is required to figure out dating. Some fall through the cracks though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:44 PM
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If she struck business deals and spent nights up preparing for business meetings, yes she deserves cash and prizes. However it seems deserves got nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:51 PM
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I've read Red Pill stuff a while. I don't see how anyone who isn't new to the discussion, or the world, could say women don't 'spin plates'. Most of Red Pill is learning how 'turnabout is fair play' really applies to dating. For both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 02:50 AM
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That works. Her ideals definitely conflict with her personal desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 02:07 AM
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I'm not sure the word is contradictory. I'm not certain hypocritical applies either. But there is a certain oddness in advocating one position for all and seeking a special arrangement for yourself. It reveals a kind of disassociation with your beliefs that is offputting. In a political discourse the word would be 'corrupt'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 01:40 AM
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The proper answer to that statement is : Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 01:35 AM
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You are doing a good job in this thread, laying out your point. The fact that you get as much pushback as you are getting also makes your point for you. The qualities you talk about aren't respected, where in a 'Just World' they rightly should be worth something. The Red Pill is as much about this as anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 07:05 PM
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Both are different, and coincidentally the woman is either at fault or needs to learn. Both ways they face the business end of the 'blame stick'. Divorce rape is a one time event. Women dating bad boys is a pattern of behavior. Getting suckered one time is forgivable, even a pitiable experience. The man with 7 divorces is as broken and unaware as the woman that is this thread's topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 07:02 AM
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Imagine not being able to enroll your child in a good school because the other parent hates formal education and is restricting funding. Ironically this is the kind of situation where restricting funding makes sense. Take the example a bit less extreme. One parent may want expensive private school, the other favors public school. Should one be able to bully the other with state enforced child support, under penalty of jail, to win the argument? That's essentially a license to steal. Edit: Childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 07:43 PM
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I've seen this expressed differently as being 'Process oriented, not goals oriented'. It comes up in sports psychology and parroted in other competitive activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 08:49 PM
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Don't marry. Don't cohabitate. Don't combine finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 05:14 PM
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When they're ringing bells in your face shouting 'Shame!'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 03:40 PM
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Sexual interest will detract from a friendship. Things friends wouldn't think twice about doing together can be second guessed, even if only internally. Any kind of "Mike Pence Rule" followed for the sake of your SO will preclude activities friends do, and harm the friendship. It certainly won't make friendship easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 09:42 PM
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Also my boyfriend is America You are a true patriot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 05:58 PM
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The book 'Models' by Mark Manson focuses on this, mostly regarding how to do approaching without appearing desperate. You might give that a read.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 08:48 PM
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Alpha in the context of 'getting women'. Women can only evaluated external elements of you. Pretty straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 08:45 PM
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You (general you) don't act right for rewards Of course you (general you) do. You act right out of self interest, or rational self interest. Or because you struck a deal, which benefited you, and you are now holding up the bargain. You hold your end of the bargain because gaining reputation as a deal breaker precludes you from making further deals. Making deals in the future will benefit you. There will occasionally be something you do because you feel compelled biologically. These are hardwired…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:58 PM
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As you said though, people want those government benefits/obligations. Though I would wager women mostly do and talk their man into it. If marriage really is a net benefit for everyone, then fine. But I don't believe the facts support that. Cue mgtow arguments,etc. It's a catch-22 of "Avoid marriage, lose relationships" and "Go along to get along, getting a bad deal for your efforts".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 03:29 PM
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With due respect, I think you've got the facts wrong. I think you are distinguishing married-filed-separately versus married-filed-together. I'm talking married-any-kind versus two singles, filed separately (obviously). Wikipedia summarizes it this way : If the incomes of the two persons are similar, then at the lower end of the tax schedule there is no difference between filing as singles and filing as a married couple (ignoring the question of deductions, see below). But at the higher end of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 12:38 AM
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Men cannot claim to be allies to women in this moment while insisting that we’re best suited to fold their laundry and change diapers — though I’m sure no man would ever put it quite that bluntly. In economics you have the idea of comparative advantage : whoever makes the most $/hour units should prioritize making money. You have a taxation system that is progressive : The last dollar you make is taxed more, so that making more money is less efficient per hour worked. This also manifests in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 12:23 AM
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I think I saw a video about such a situation, but where was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 10:28 PM
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Where would 'Reads comment section of PornHub' fall in the spectrum? For science.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 10:16 PM
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NOT talking about it leads them to porn Being male will lead them to porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 04:25 PM
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I understood that reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V12ZAZ4Jn8Q
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 02:36 PM
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Civility is a haven for pussies who don't want to bear consequences for the things that come out of their mouth. It can be. That's not an indictment of civility. There also is, under the law, the concept of 'fighting words'. So your base instinct here isn't totally unreasonable. But you present it like every bar fight everywhere is justified, and that's just not correct. I will never assent to the idea that your feelings in the moment dictate what is right. Someone can "have it coming". It isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 01:59 PM
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What people do when the Pimp-Hand of the Law doesn't reach is not an endorsement of that behavior. Scum behavior is scumny even if no one goes to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 01:33 AM
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You've got 'Know Thyself' down. Good luck on the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:40 PM
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This sounds like we might be running into a 'love language' barrier here. I can see how it can signal something, but I wouldn't raise that to the level of communication. A conversation is, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:17 PM
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IMO, sex is a form of communicating We have different views on this. Unless I'm in a poetical mood, sex is about pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:05 PM
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make sure the kids have a decent shot at becoming productive adults After a certain point society has done all it should. No more is owed. Where you draw that line might be different than mine, but certainly obligations must end at some point?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 05:22 PM
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(also, nobody is fungible sexually if you're doing it right) That goes into the grade. Plain but great sex is still gradable. And even "good guys" are looking to get their rocks off. Be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 04:45 PM
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